<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_16_1550207</id>
	<title>Police Called Over 11-Year-Old's Science Project</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1263634620000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>garg0yle writes <i>"Police in San Diego were called to investigate an 11-year-old's science project, consisting of 'a motion detector made out of an empty Gatorade bottle and some electronics,' after <a href="http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jan/15/students-evacuated-school-chollas-view/">the vice-principal came to the conclusion that it was a bomb</a>.  Charges aren't being laid against the youth, but it's being recommended that he and his family 'get counseling.'  Apparently, the student violated school policies &mdash; I'm assuming these are policies against having any kind of independent thought?"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>garg0yle writes " Police in San Diego were called to investigate an 11-year-old 's science project , consisting of 'a motion detector made out of an empty Gatorade bottle and some electronics, ' after the vice-principal came to the conclusion that it was a bomb .
Charges are n't being laid against the youth , but it 's being recommended that he and his family 'get counseling .
' Apparently , the student violated school policies    I 'm assuming these are policies against having any kind of independent thought ?
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<sentencetext>garg0yle writes "Police in San Diego were called to investigate an 11-year-old's science project, consisting of 'a motion detector made out of an empty Gatorade bottle and some electronics,' after the vice-principal came to the conclusion that it was a bomb.
Charges aren't being laid against the youth, but it's being recommended that he and his family 'get counseling.
'  Apparently, the student violated school policies — I'm assuming these are policies against having any kind of independent thought?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795212</id>
	<title>Re:Insane times we live in.</title>
	<author>JustShootMe</author>
	<datestamp>1263653100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess you think that terrorists would never dress as a member of the US military.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess you think that terrorists would never dress as a member of the US military .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess you think that terrorists would never dress as a member of the US military.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793736</id>
	<title>Re:Call themselves teachers?</title>
	<author>15Bit</author>
	<datestamp>1263641100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because the better ones cost more than you are willing to pay.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because the better ones cost more than you are willing to pay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because the better ones cost more than you are willing to pay.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794536</id>
	<title>A sad day for the future..</title>
	<author>malkavian</author>
	<datestamp>1263646500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Back when I was a kid (in the 70s), half the fun of life (being a geek, even back then) was playing with electronics, chemistry and whatever came to hand..  I make all kinds of things that went bang quite effectively, made funny coloured smoke, and had wires coming from all angles. In my secondary school (in the 80s), my teachers would actually take an interest in the weird things I'd created, and made suggestions on doing it better..  This nurtured my creative side quite nicely..  I still get the soldering iron out now and then if I need devices that aren't generally available, but I'm capable of making myself..<br>This approach still holds true in China, Russia, and really most of the countries out there apart from US/UK and a few of the other Western countries..  This means they're getting better scope to broaden their horizons and invent from an early age.  Given a broader scope of inventive populace, and a greater comfort with the learning, methinks it's only a matter of time until we legislate and worry ourselves into being second rate nations due to lack of the next bright and creative generation..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Back when I was a kid ( in the 70s ) , half the fun of life ( being a geek , even back then ) was playing with electronics , chemistry and whatever came to hand.. I make all kinds of things that went bang quite effectively , made funny coloured smoke , and had wires coming from all angles .
In my secondary school ( in the 80s ) , my teachers would actually take an interest in the weird things I 'd created , and made suggestions on doing it better.. This nurtured my creative side quite nicely.. I still get the soldering iron out now and then if I need devices that are n't generally available , but I 'm capable of making myself..This approach still holds true in China , Russia , and really most of the countries out there apart from US/UK and a few of the other Western countries.. This means they 're getting better scope to broaden their horizons and invent from an early age .
Given a broader scope of inventive populace , and a greater comfort with the learning , methinks it 's only a matter of time until we legislate and worry ourselves into being second rate nations due to lack of the next bright and creative generation. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Back when I was a kid (in the 70s), half the fun of life (being a geek, even back then) was playing with electronics, chemistry and whatever came to hand..  I make all kinds of things that went bang quite effectively, made funny coloured smoke, and had wires coming from all angles.
In my secondary school (in the 80s), my teachers would actually take an interest in the weird things I'd created, and made suggestions on doing it better..  This nurtured my creative side quite nicely..  I still get the soldering iron out now and then if I need devices that aren't generally available, but I'm capable of making myself..This approach still holds true in China, Russia, and really most of the countries out there apart from US/UK and a few of the other Western countries..  This means they're getting better scope to broaden their horizons and invent from an early age.
Given a broader scope of inventive populace, and a greater comfort with the learning, methinks it's only a matter of time until we legislate and worry ourselves into being second rate nations due to lack of the next bright and creative generation..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793974</id>
	<title>Re:Electronics are scary</title>
	<author>Kell Bengal</author>
	<datestamp>1263642480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have never had any trouble taking boxes of electronics bits with me, even circuit boards and suspicious-looking wiring, with me on a plane.  It might be because there are no large batteries of ambiguous looking blocks of substance in there that might be bombs.  Although, it might also be because my batteries are all small and the name on my boarding pass has a 'doctor' in front of it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have never had any trouble taking boxes of electronics bits with me , even circuit boards and suspicious-looking wiring , with me on a plane .
It might be because there are no large batteries of ambiguous looking blocks of substance in there that might be bombs .
Although , it might also be because my batteries are all small and the name on my boarding pass has a 'doctor ' in front of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have never had any trouble taking boxes of electronics bits with me, even circuit boards and suspicious-looking wiring, with me on a plane.
It might be because there are no large batteries of ambiguous looking blocks of substance in there that might be bombs.
Although, it might also be because my batteries are all small and the name on my boarding pass has a 'doctor' in front of it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793558</id>
	<title>This really takes the cake</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263640020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought I couldn't be more surprised by crazy school administrator and police stupidity, but I was wrong.</p><p>Everyone really should read TFA this time.</p><p>From TFA:</p><blockquote><div><p>Students were evacuated from Millennial Tech Magnet Middle School...</p></div></blockquote><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...and...</p><blockquote><div><p>Luque said the project was made of an empty half-liter Gatorade bottle with some wires and other electrical components attached. There was no substance inside.</p><p>When police and the Metro Arson Strike Team responded, they also found electrical components in the student's backpack, Luque said.  After talking to the student, it was decided about 1 p.m. to evacuate the school as a precaution while the item was examined.</p></div> </blockquote><p>So, having electronics in your backpack is grounds for evacuating a TECH MAGNET?</p><p>Seriously?</p><p>What happened to the country that put the first man on the moon?  We have gone completely insane.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought I could n't be more surprised by crazy school administrator and police stupidity , but I was wrong.Everyone really should read TFA this time.From TFA : Students were evacuated from Millennial Tech Magnet Middle School... ...and...Luque said the project was made of an empty half-liter Gatorade bottle with some wires and other electrical components attached .
There was no substance inside.When police and the Metro Arson Strike Team responded , they also found electrical components in the student 's backpack , Luque said .
After talking to the student , it was decided about 1 p.m. to evacuate the school as a precaution while the item was examined .
So , having electronics in your backpack is grounds for evacuating a TECH MAGNET ? Seriously ? What happened to the country that put the first man on the moon ?
We have gone completely insane .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought I couldn't be more surprised by crazy school administrator and police stupidity, but I was wrong.Everyone really should read TFA this time.From TFA:Students were evacuated from Millennial Tech Magnet Middle School... ...and...Luque said the project was made of an empty half-liter Gatorade bottle with some wires and other electrical components attached.
There was no substance inside.When police and the Metro Arson Strike Team responded, they also found electrical components in the student's backpack, Luque said.
After talking to the student, it was decided about 1 p.m. to evacuate the school as a precaution while the item was examined.
So, having electronics in your backpack is grounds for evacuating a TECH MAGNET?Seriously?What happened to the country that put the first man on the moon?
We have gone completely insane.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795002</id>
	<title>Re:What if it was really a bomb?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263650820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>"Let us say it was really bomb."</i></p><p>Why would we do that?</p><p>If we think this can be a bomb, we must think anything can be a bomb.<br>Then the terrorists would have defeated us by turning our own fear against us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Let us say it was really bomb .
" Why would we do that ? If we think this can be a bomb , we must think anything can be a bomb.Then the terrorists would have defeated us by turning our own fear against us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Let us say it was really bomb.
"Why would we do that?If we think this can be a bomb, we must think anything can be a bomb.Then the terrorists would have defeated us by turning our own fear against us.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793392</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796292</id>
	<title>Re:Administratium is dense</title>
	<author>kilodelta</author>
	<datestamp>1263667920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Precisely. There seems to be a general fear of electronic devices in the past few years. Recall the Mooninite scare in Boston.
<br> <br>
Yet I can pack my Arduino, wire kit, and components in my backpack and send it through a TSA x-ray and nobody says BOO about it. Schools are getting out of control lately. It all started with the zero tolerance bullshit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Precisely .
There seems to be a general fear of electronic devices in the past few years .
Recall the Mooninite scare in Boston .
Yet I can pack my Arduino , wire kit , and components in my backpack and send it through a TSA x-ray and nobody says BOO about it .
Schools are getting out of control lately .
It all started with the zero tolerance bullshit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Precisely.
There seems to be a general fear of electronic devices in the past few years.
Recall the Mooninite scare in Boston.
Yet I can pack my Arduino, wire kit, and components in my backpack and send it through a TSA x-ray and nobody says BOO about it.
Schools are getting out of control lately.
It all started with the zero tolerance bullshit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795246</id>
	<title>Oh for the love of . . .</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263653460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At some point we need to just teach people what a bomb actually looks like. It's not as if a bottle of Gatorade with wires sticking out of it looks like a bomb.  Sure, if you see a stick of dynamite , fertilizer, or even just a lump of clay inside that those wires are attached too -- then that's suspicious.  But at some point people need to realize that ELECTRONICS BY THEMSELVES do not just blow up.  A circuit board and a wire are merely one component of an explosive device.  There has to be something capable of exploding somewhere in the mix, and probably not just a tiny bit of something.</p><p>We have this case, the ATHF litebrites, the shirt with lights on it at the airport, etc, etc.  How hard is it to understand this: WIRES BY THEMSELVES DO NOT A BOMB MAKE.  NO  QUANTITY OF WIRES WILL TURN INTO A BOMB. Christ.</p><p>Posting anonymously so I don't get arrested for knowing what a bomb should look like.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At some point we need to just teach people what a bomb actually looks like .
It 's not as if a bottle of Gatorade with wires sticking out of it looks like a bomb .
Sure , if you see a stick of dynamite , fertilizer , or even just a lump of clay inside that those wires are attached too -- then that 's suspicious .
But at some point people need to realize that ELECTRONICS BY THEMSELVES do not just blow up .
A circuit board and a wire are merely one component of an explosive device .
There has to be something capable of exploding somewhere in the mix , and probably not just a tiny bit of something.We have this case , the ATHF litebrites , the shirt with lights on it at the airport , etc , etc .
How hard is it to understand this : WIRES BY THEMSELVES DO NOT A BOMB MAKE .
NO QUANTITY OF WIRES WILL TURN INTO A BOMB .
Christ.Posting anonymously so I do n't get arrested for knowing what a bomb should look like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At some point we need to just teach people what a bomb actually looks like.
It's not as if a bottle of Gatorade with wires sticking out of it looks like a bomb.
Sure, if you see a stick of dynamite , fertilizer, or even just a lump of clay inside that those wires are attached too -- then that's suspicious.
But at some point people need to realize that ELECTRONICS BY THEMSELVES do not just blow up.
A circuit board and a wire are merely one component of an explosive device.
There has to be something capable of exploding somewhere in the mix, and probably not just a tiny bit of something.We have this case, the ATHF litebrites, the shirt with lights on it at the airport, etc, etc.
How hard is it to understand this: WIRES BY THEMSELVES DO NOT A BOMB MAKE.
NO  QUANTITY OF WIRES WILL TURN INTO A BOMB.
Christ.Posting anonymously so I don't get arrested for knowing what a bomb should look like.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793544</id>
	<title>Profiling much?</title>
	<author>Taur0</author>
	<datestamp>1263639960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How much do you want to bet that the student is a Muslim or looked like one?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How much do you want to bet that the student is a Muslim or looked like one ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much do you want to bet that the student is a Muslim or looked like one?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795966</id>
	<title>I'll tell you what's "empty"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263662280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Luque said the project was made of an empty half-liter Gatorade bottle with some wires and other electrical components attached. There was no substance inside."</p><p>How in the !#$!#$! could a bomb consist of an *empty* container?  What, was the plastic bottle the explosive?  The electronic components?  What?</p><p>What's empty is the head of the morons that thought the thing was dangerous, and thus put this student, his family, and the whole school through this ordeal when some COMMON SENSE could have told them there was nothing dangerous.</p><p>And what kind of message does this event send?  Don't ever, ever play with wires, electronic components and bottles -- dangerous!  Might be mistaken for a bomb!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Luque said the project was made of an empty half-liter Gatorade bottle with some wires and other electrical components attached .
There was no substance inside .
" How in the ! # $ ! # $ !
could a bomb consist of an * empty * container ?
What , was the plastic bottle the explosive ?
The electronic components ?
What ? What 's empty is the head of the morons that thought the thing was dangerous , and thus put this student , his family , and the whole school through this ordeal when some COMMON SENSE could have told them there was nothing dangerous.And what kind of message does this event send ?
Do n't ever , ever play with wires , electronic components and bottles -- dangerous !
Might be mistaken for a bomb !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Luque said the project was made of an empty half-liter Gatorade bottle with some wires and other electrical components attached.
There was no substance inside.
"How in the !#$!#$!
could a bomb consist of an *empty* container?
What, was the plastic bottle the explosive?
The electronic components?
What?What's empty is the head of the morons that thought the thing was dangerous, and thus put this student, his family, and the whole school through this ordeal when some COMMON SENSE could have told them there was nothing dangerous.And what kind of message does this event send?
Don't ever, ever play with wires, electronic components and bottles -- dangerous!
Might be mistaken for a bomb!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793812</id>
	<title>Re:Science fairs before High School....</title>
	<author>future assassin</author>
	<datestamp>1263641580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>At one of the local schools when the police came to do anti drug speech and the police officer was talking about cannabis he asked the students (grade 3/4) if any of their parents had an indoor garden inside the house. This was quite the set up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>At one of the local schools when the police came to do anti drug speech and the police officer was talking about cannabis he asked the students ( grade 3/4 ) if any of their parents had an indoor garden inside the house .
This was quite the set up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At one of the local schools when the police came to do anti drug speech and the police officer was talking about cannabis he asked the students (grade 3/4) if any of their parents had an indoor garden inside the house.
This was quite the set up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793386</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>Rob the Bold</author>
	<datestamp>1263638880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'd like to recommend the authorities get some counseling.  Either that, or a clue, but counseling is easier to come by.</p></div><p>Ya, counseled not to take a job at "Millennial <em>Tech</em> Magnet Middle School" if they are scared shitless of technology!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to recommend the authorities get some counseling .
Either that , or a clue , but counseling is easier to come by.Ya , counseled not to take a job at " Millennial Tech Magnet Middle School " if they are scared shitless of technology !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to recommend the authorities get some counseling.
Either that, or a clue, but counseling is easier to come by.Ya, counseled not to take a job at "Millennial Tech Magnet Middle School" if they are scared shitless of technology!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30799010</id>
	<title>Huh?</title>
	<author>AmonTheMetalhead</author>
	<datestamp>1263749340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What school policies could be violated by making a motion detector for a science fair?!<br>
<br>
The one that says 'Don't make us adults look like complete morons'?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What school policies could be violated by making a motion detector for a science fair ? !
The one that says 'Do n't make us adults look like complete morons ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What school policies could be violated by making a motion detector for a science fair?!
The one that says 'Don't make us adults look like complete morons'?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794060</id>
	<title>Re:Call themselves teachers?</title>
	<author>spasm</author>
	<datestamp>1263643080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because a high school teacher makes an average of around $55k in San Diego (http://preview.tinyurl.com/18r), and bright people who've gone to the effort of becoming educated to the minimum level needed to be an effective high school teacher tend to have other options which pay better.  Or tend to leave teaching after a couple of years if they start as one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because a high school teacher makes an average of around $ 55k in San Diego ( http : //preview.tinyurl.com/18r ) , and bright people who 've gone to the effort of becoming educated to the minimum level needed to be an effective high school teacher tend to have other options which pay better .
Or tend to leave teaching after a couple of years if they start as one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because a high school teacher makes an average of around $55k in San Diego (http://preview.tinyurl.com/18r), and bright people who've gone to the effort of becoming educated to the minimum level needed to be an effective high school teacher tend to have other options which pay better.
Or tend to leave teaching after a couple of years if they start as one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793654</id>
	<title>Re:What if it was really a bomb?</title>
	<author>gurps\_npc</author>
	<datestamp>1263640620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Everything you said makes sense<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... if the moron did not suggest the kid seek counseling.

Once you realize that YOU over-reacted, the correct action is to accept the fact that YOU acted like a fool.  It is not to shift blame to the kid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everything you said makes sense ... if the moron did not suggest the kid seek counseling .
Once you realize that YOU over-reacted , the correct action is to accept the fact that YOU acted like a fool .
It is not to shift blame to the kid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everything you said makes sense ... if the moron did not suggest the kid seek counseling.
Once you realize that YOU over-reacted, the correct action is to accept the fact that YOU acted like a fool.
It is not to shift blame to the kid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793476</id>
	<title>Insane times we live in.</title>
	<author>140Mandak262Jamuna</author>
	<datestamp>1263639480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here is a posting by a soldier in <a href="http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/musings/2009/apr/19/airport-security/" title="ljworld.com">http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/musings/2009/apr/19/airport-security/</a> [ljworld.com] <p><div class="quote"><p>vertigo (Jesse Crittenden) says </p><p>
Ironically while flying out of KMCI on my way to Iraq for the Air Force I had to go through the extra security screening. Mind you I'm in full military uniform, desert BDUs, boots, boonie hat, M4 in tow sure enough though I had to take off my boots and all metal objects and get the wand ran over me and extra check through my carry on. Let's ignore the fact that I'm carrying a rifle onboard!</p><p>

Common sense sometimes does not apply.</p><p>

In the case of the elderly lady I see nothing whatsoever wrong with her getting the same screening as everyone else. Terrorists will use whatever they can to exploit a weakness; that could be a handicapped person, the elderly and children.</p></div><p>Stop the world, it has gone mad, I want to get off.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Here is a posting by a soldier in http : //www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/musings/2009/apr/19/airport-security/ [ ljworld.com ] vertigo ( Jesse Crittenden ) says Ironically while flying out of KMCI on my way to Iraq for the Air Force I had to go through the extra security screening .
Mind you I 'm in full military uniform , desert BDUs , boots , boonie hat , M4 in tow sure enough though I had to take off my boots and all metal objects and get the wand ran over me and extra check through my carry on .
Let 's ignore the fact that I 'm carrying a rifle onboard !
Common sense sometimes does not apply .
In the case of the elderly lady I see nothing whatsoever wrong with her getting the same screening as everyone else .
Terrorists will use whatever they can to exploit a weakness ; that could be a handicapped person , the elderly and children.Stop the world , it has gone mad , I want to get off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here is a posting by a soldier in http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/musings/2009/apr/19/airport-security/ [ljworld.com] vertigo (Jesse Crittenden) says 
Ironically while flying out of KMCI on my way to Iraq for the Air Force I had to go through the extra security screening.
Mind you I'm in full military uniform, desert BDUs, boots, boonie hat, M4 in tow sure enough though I had to take off my boots and all metal objects and get the wand ran over me and extra check through my carry on.
Let's ignore the fact that I'm carrying a rifle onboard!
Common sense sometimes does not apply.
In the case of the elderly lady I see nothing whatsoever wrong with her getting the same screening as everyone else.
Terrorists will use whatever they can to exploit a weakness; that could be a handicapped person, the elderly and children.Stop the world, it has gone mad, I want to get off.
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	<title>Re:Apparently, not so much</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263643140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey just FYI, signing your posts on a forum that displays your username and linked profile in every post by default makes you look like a blithering idiot. Just a heads up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey just FYI , signing your posts on a forum that displays your username and linked profile in every post by default makes you look like a blithering idiot .
Just a heads up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey just FYI, signing your posts on a forum that displays your username and linked profile in every post by default makes you look like a blithering idiot.
Just a heads up.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:A day with the vice principal</title>
	<author>shovas</author>
	<datestamp>1263748980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Best. Commentary. Ever.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Best .
Commentary. Ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Best.
Commentary. Ever.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793846</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263641700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>What's the student supposed to get counseling for? The trauma the school put him through for no reason? More likely, so the school authorities can point to the fact that the kid got counseling to show something is wrong with him (and not them)</i></p><p><i>I'd like to recommend the authorities get some counseling. Either that, or a clue, but counseling is easier to come by.<br></i> </p><p>Let's stick a few colored wires up the principal's ass and call the bomb squad on him.</p><p>If he doesn't blow up, send him for "counseling".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the student supposed to get counseling for ?
The trauma the school put him through for no reason ?
More likely , so the school authorities can point to the fact that the kid got counseling to show something is wrong with him ( and not them ) I 'd like to recommend the authorities get some counseling .
Either that , or a clue , but counseling is easier to come by .
Let 's stick a few colored wires up the principal 's ass and call the bomb squad on him.If he does n't blow up , send him for " counseling " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the student supposed to get counseling for?
The trauma the school put him through for no reason?
More likely, so the school authorities can point to the fact that the kid got counseling to show something is wrong with him (and not them)I'd like to recommend the authorities get some counseling.
Either that, or a clue, but counseling is easier to come by.
Let's stick a few colored wires up the principal's ass and call the bomb squad on him.If he doesn't blow up, send him for "counseling".</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:This really takes the cake</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1263642120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext>Let me emphasize the best part:<p><div class="quote"><p> <b>After talking to the student, it was decided about 1 p.m. to evacuate the school </b> as a precaution while the item was examined.</p></div><p>So they get there, the kid tells them what's going on.... THEN they decide to evacuate and examine it with a bomb robot (which takes two more hours).  If that was a bomb and the kid wanted to use it, they were now four hours too late.   Other than that, nice to show some faith/confidence in the kids.
</p><p>
Now, the kid is "quite shaken"... and quite possibly will stop doing this kind of work on his own.  Well done.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Let me emphasize the best part : After talking to the student , it was decided about 1 p.m. to evacuate the school as a precaution while the item was examined.So they get there , the kid tells them what 's going on.... THEN they decide to evacuate and examine it with a bomb robot ( which takes two more hours ) .
If that was a bomb and the kid wanted to use it , they were now four hours too late .
Other than that , nice to show some faith/confidence in the kids .
Now , the kid is " quite shaken " ... and quite possibly will stop doing this kind of work on his own .
Well done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let me emphasize the best part: After talking to the student, it was decided about 1 p.m. to evacuate the school  as a precaution while the item was examined.So they get there, the kid tells them what's going on.... THEN they decide to evacuate and examine it with a bomb robot (which takes two more hours).
If that was a bomb and the kid wanted to use it, they were now four hours too late.
Other than that, nice to show some faith/confidence in the kids.
Now, the kid is "quite shaken"... and quite possibly will stop doing this kind of work on his own.
Well done.
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	<title>What if it was really a bomb?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263638940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
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	<htmltext>Let us say it was really bomb. Then the very same media would be all over the school officials, "What? There was this bottle! with wires inside! And electronics! And the clueless vice principal dismissed it as harmless. When is he going to learn that Al Queda is constantly probing our defenses. The terrorists know every trick in the book and know that the best way to smuggle a bomb into a school is to disguise it as a science project. Now the bomb has killed 200 school children. Some heads better roll, or else!". And there is always a steady supply of talking head Monday-morning-quarterbacking security experts lecturing us on how to handle it and how everything is serious and there is a terrorist hiding behind every tree and every garbage can has a bomb in it.<p>

Yes, in a saner world, where most parties are responsible this would not have been been blown this big. But with the vitiated atmosphere and media constantly looking for flames to fan, the school officials decided, "OK either way they are going to get me. At least let me take the path where I look ridiculous but keep my job."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let us say it was really bomb .
Then the very same media would be all over the school officials , " What ?
There was this bottle !
with wires inside !
And electronics !
And the clueless vice principal dismissed it as harmless .
When is he going to learn that Al Queda is constantly probing our defenses .
The terrorists know every trick in the book and know that the best way to smuggle a bomb into a school is to disguise it as a science project .
Now the bomb has killed 200 school children .
Some heads better roll , or else ! " .
And there is always a steady supply of talking head Monday-morning-quarterbacking security experts lecturing us on how to handle it and how everything is serious and there is a terrorist hiding behind every tree and every garbage can has a bomb in it .
Yes , in a saner world , where most parties are responsible this would not have been been blown this big .
But with the vitiated atmosphere and media constantly looking for flames to fan , the school officials decided , " OK either way they are going to get me .
At least let me take the path where I look ridiculous but keep my job .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let us say it was really bomb.
Then the very same media would be all over the school officials, "What?
There was this bottle!
with wires inside!
And electronics!
And the clueless vice principal dismissed it as harmless.
When is he going to learn that Al Queda is constantly probing our defenses.
The terrorists know every trick in the book and know that the best way to smuggle a bomb into a school is to disguise it as a science project.
Now the bomb has killed 200 school children.
Some heads better roll, or else!".
And there is always a steady supply of talking head Monday-morning-quarterbacking security experts lecturing us on how to handle it and how everything is serious and there is a terrorist hiding behind every tree and every garbage can has a bomb in it.
Yes, in a saner world, where most parties are responsible this would not have been been blown this big.
But with the vitiated atmosphere and media constantly looking for flames to fan, the school officials decided, "OK either way they are going to get me.
At least let me take the path where I look ridiculous but keep my job.
"</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Talk about overreacting</title>
	<author>kullnd</author>
	<datestamp>1263649920000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>You should see the lists of "Prohibited items" that my kids science fair projects include these days --- I have a hard time finding anything to do because of all the restrictions<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...  Kids today are just supposed to play xbox...</htmltext>
<tokenext>You should see the lists of " Prohibited items " that my kids science fair projects include these days --- I have a hard time finding anything to do because of all the restrictions ... Kids today are just supposed to play xbox.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should see the lists of "Prohibited items" that my kids science fair projects include these days --- I have a hard time finding anything to do because of all the restrictions ...  Kids today are just supposed to play xbox...</sentencetext>
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	<title>Poor kid</title>
	<author>whoisisis</author>
	<datestamp>1263639600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hope he doesn't let this episode interfere with his cool hobby. If he keeps on toying with electronics,
he could end up with a really cool and useful job. An 11 year old making a motion detector -- how cool is that?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope he does n't let this episode interfere with his cool hobby .
If he keeps on toying with electronics , he could end up with a really cool and useful job .
An 11 year old making a motion detector -- how cool is that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope he doesn't let this episode interfere with his cool hobby.
If he keeps on toying with electronics,
he could end up with a really cool and useful job.
An 11 year old making a motion detector -- how cool is that?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30798966</id>
	<title>Re:Administratium is dense</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1263749040000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>No, this is what happens when the school administration is less intelligent then the students and has lost all common sense.</p><p>I didn't see a *teacher* involved here. Lets lay the blame where it deserves to be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , this is what happens when the school administration is less intelligent then the students and has lost all common sense.I did n't see a * teacher * involved here .
Lets lay the blame where it deserves to be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, this is what happens when the school administration is less intelligent then the students and has lost all common sense.I didn't see a *teacher* involved here.
Lets lay the blame where it deserves to be.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:TFA sucks</title>
	<author>canajin56</author>
	<datestamp>1263649800000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>The counseling is for trying to learn outside of school.  He's obviously insane, nobody would ever do that.  He sounds like some kind of socialist elitist.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The counseling is for trying to learn outside of school .
He 's obviously insane , nobody would ever do that .
He sounds like some kind of socialist elitist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The counseling is for trying to learn outside of school.
He's obviously insane, nobody would ever do that.
He sounds like some kind of socialist elitist.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794380</id>
	<title>John Talyor Gatto: A Conspiracy Against Ourselves</title>
	<author>Paul Fernhout</author>
	<datestamp>1263645360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An excerpt from "The Underground History of American Education":<br> <a href="http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/16a.htm" title="johntaylorgatto.com">http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/16a.htm</a> [johntaylorgatto.com] <br>"""<br>Solve this problem and school will heal itself: children know that schooling is not fair, not honest, not driven by integrity. They know they are devalued in classes and grades, that the institution is indifferent to them as individuals. The rhetoric of caring contradicts what school procedure and content say, that many children have no tolerable future and most have a sharply proscribed one. The problem is structural. School has been built to serve a society of associations: corporations, institutions, and agencies. Kids know this instinctively. How should they feel about it? How should we?</p><p>As soon as you break free of the orbit of received wisdom you have little trouble figuring out why, in the nature of things, government schools and those private schools which imitate the government model have to make most children dumb, allowing only a few to escape the trap. The problem stems from the structure of our economy and social organization. When you start with such pyramid-shaped givens and then ask yourself what kind of schooling they would require to maintain themselves, any mystery dissipates--these things are inhuman conspiracies all right, but not conspiracies of people against people, although circumstances make them appear so. School is a conflict pitting the needs of social machinery against the needs of the human spirit. It is a war of mechanism against flesh and blood, self-maintaining social mechanisms that only require human architects to get launched.</p><p>I'll bring this down to earth. Try to see that an intricately subordinated industrial/commercial system has only limited use for hundreds of millions of self-reliant, resourceful readers and critical thinkers. In an egalitarian, entrepreneurially based economy of confederated families like the one the Amish have or the Mondragon folk in the Basque region of Spain, any number of self-reliant people can be accommodated usefully, but not in a concentrated command-type economy like our own. Where on earth would they fit? In a great fanfare of moral fervor some years back, the Ford Motor Company opened the world's most productive auto engine plant in Chihuahua, Mexico. It insisted on hiring employees with 50 percent more school training than the Mexican norm of six years, but as time passed Ford removed its requirements and began to hire school dropouts, training them quite well in four to twelve weeks. The hype that education is essential to robot-like work was quietly abandoned. Our economy has no adequate outlet of expression for its artists, dancers, poets, painters, farmers, filmmakers, wildcat business people, handcraft workers, whiskey makers, intellectuals, or a thousand other useful human enterprises--no outlet except corporate work or fringe slots on the periphery of things. Unless you do "creative" work the company way, you run afoul of a host of laws and regulations put on the books to control the dangerous products of imagination which can never be safely tolerated by a centralized command system.</p><p>Before you can reach a point of effectiveness in defending your own children or your principles against the assault of blind social machinery, you have to stop conspiring against yourself by attempting to negotiate with a set of abstract principles and rules which, by its nature, cannot respond. Under all its disguises, that is what institutional schooling is, an abstraction which has escaped its handlers. Nobody can reform it. First you have to realize that human values are the stuff of madness to a system; in systems-logic the schools we have are already the schools the system needs; the only way they could be much improved is to have kids eat, sleep, live, and die there.</p><p>Schools got the way they were at the start of the twentieth century as part of a vast, intensely engineered social revolution in which all major institutions were overhauled to wo</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An excerpt from " The Underground History of American Education " : http : //www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/16a.htm [ johntaylorgatto.com ] " " " Solve this problem and school will heal itself : children know that schooling is not fair , not honest , not driven by integrity .
They know they are devalued in classes and grades , that the institution is indifferent to them as individuals .
The rhetoric of caring contradicts what school procedure and content say , that many children have no tolerable future and most have a sharply proscribed one .
The problem is structural .
School has been built to serve a society of associations : corporations , institutions , and agencies .
Kids know this instinctively .
How should they feel about it ?
How should we ? As soon as you break free of the orbit of received wisdom you have little trouble figuring out why , in the nature of things , government schools and those private schools which imitate the government model have to make most children dumb , allowing only a few to escape the trap .
The problem stems from the structure of our economy and social organization .
When you start with such pyramid-shaped givens and then ask yourself what kind of schooling they would require to maintain themselves , any mystery dissipates--these things are inhuman conspiracies all right , but not conspiracies of people against people , although circumstances make them appear so .
School is a conflict pitting the needs of social machinery against the needs of the human spirit .
It is a war of mechanism against flesh and blood , self-maintaining social mechanisms that only require human architects to get launched.I 'll bring this down to earth .
Try to see that an intricately subordinated industrial/commercial system has only limited use for hundreds of millions of self-reliant , resourceful readers and critical thinkers .
In an egalitarian , entrepreneurially based economy of confederated families like the one the Amish have or the Mondragon folk in the Basque region of Spain , any number of self-reliant people can be accommodated usefully , but not in a concentrated command-type economy like our own .
Where on earth would they fit ?
In a great fanfare of moral fervor some years back , the Ford Motor Company opened the world 's most productive auto engine plant in Chihuahua , Mexico .
It insisted on hiring employees with 50 percent more school training than the Mexican norm of six years , but as time passed Ford removed its requirements and began to hire school dropouts , training them quite well in four to twelve weeks .
The hype that education is essential to robot-like work was quietly abandoned .
Our economy has no adequate outlet of expression for its artists , dancers , poets , painters , farmers , filmmakers , wildcat business people , handcraft workers , whiskey makers , intellectuals , or a thousand other useful human enterprises--no outlet except corporate work or fringe slots on the periphery of things .
Unless you do " creative " work the company way , you run afoul of a host of laws and regulations put on the books to control the dangerous products of imagination which can never be safely tolerated by a centralized command system.Before you can reach a point of effectiveness in defending your own children or your principles against the assault of blind social machinery , you have to stop conspiring against yourself by attempting to negotiate with a set of abstract principles and rules which , by its nature , can not respond .
Under all its disguises , that is what institutional schooling is , an abstraction which has escaped its handlers .
Nobody can reform it .
First you have to realize that human values are the stuff of madness to a system ; in systems-logic the schools we have are already the schools the system needs ; the only way they could be much improved is to have kids eat , sleep , live , and die there.Schools got the way they were at the start of the twentieth century as part of a vast , intensely engineered social revolution in which all major institutions were overhauled to wo</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An excerpt from "The Underground History of American Education": http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/16a.htm [johntaylorgatto.com] """Solve this problem and school will heal itself: children know that schooling is not fair, not honest, not driven by integrity.
They know they are devalued in classes and grades, that the institution is indifferent to them as individuals.
The rhetoric of caring contradicts what school procedure and content say, that many children have no tolerable future and most have a sharply proscribed one.
The problem is structural.
School has been built to serve a society of associations: corporations, institutions, and agencies.
Kids know this instinctively.
How should they feel about it?
How should we?As soon as you break free of the orbit of received wisdom you have little trouble figuring out why, in the nature of things, government schools and those private schools which imitate the government model have to make most children dumb, allowing only a few to escape the trap.
The problem stems from the structure of our economy and social organization.
When you start with such pyramid-shaped givens and then ask yourself what kind of schooling they would require to maintain themselves, any mystery dissipates--these things are inhuman conspiracies all right, but not conspiracies of people against people, although circumstances make them appear so.
School is a conflict pitting the needs of social machinery against the needs of the human spirit.
It is a war of mechanism against flesh and blood, self-maintaining social mechanisms that only require human architects to get launched.I'll bring this down to earth.
Try to see that an intricately subordinated industrial/commercial system has only limited use for hundreds of millions of self-reliant, resourceful readers and critical thinkers.
In an egalitarian, entrepreneurially based economy of confederated families like the one the Amish have or the Mondragon folk in the Basque region of Spain, any number of self-reliant people can be accommodated usefully, but not in a concentrated command-type economy like our own.
Where on earth would they fit?
In a great fanfare of moral fervor some years back, the Ford Motor Company opened the world's most productive auto engine plant in Chihuahua, Mexico.
It insisted on hiring employees with 50 percent more school training than the Mexican norm of six years, but as time passed Ford removed its requirements and began to hire school dropouts, training them quite well in four to twelve weeks.
The hype that education is essential to robot-like work was quietly abandoned.
Our economy has no adequate outlet of expression for its artists, dancers, poets, painters, farmers, filmmakers, wildcat business people, handcraft workers, whiskey makers, intellectuals, or a thousand other useful human enterprises--no outlet except corporate work or fringe slots on the periphery of things.
Unless you do "creative" work the company way, you run afoul of a host of laws and regulations put on the books to control the dangerous products of imagination which can never be safely tolerated by a centralized command system.Before you can reach a point of effectiveness in defending your own children or your principles against the assault of blind social machinery, you have to stop conspiring against yourself by attempting to negotiate with a set of abstract principles and rules which, by its nature, cannot respond.
Under all its disguises, that is what institutional schooling is, an abstraction which has escaped its handlers.
Nobody can reform it.
First you have to realize that human values are the stuff of madness to a system; in systems-logic the schools we have are already the schools the system needs; the only way they could be much improved is to have kids eat, sleep, live, and die there.Schools got the way they were at the start of the twentieth century as part of a vast, intensely engineered social revolution in which all major institutions were overhauled to wo</sentencetext>
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	<title>Talk about overreacting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263639000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>This is part of the "nervous Nellie" reactions that have developed over the past few years. We should be encouraging inquisitiveness, exploration and learning in our children or we will just produce more mediocre administrators. Kids do things at home, bring them to school and show their friends. As long as it was not clearly a weapon or some other prohibited device there should not be a problem with it.</p><p>We are applying the same "sterile area" rules that supposedly exist in our airports to our schools. Will TSA be staffing the schools to keep out prohibited items?</p><p>Unless the child lied about what the device was it appears that the principal overreacted and did not apply too much common sense. It sounds like a pretty cool idea to use a Gatoraide bottle as a focusing point for a sonic device. Smart kid to think that through and to try something with it.</p><p>How many people who read<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. have tried out other things like this in their childhood? Most of us have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is part of the " nervous Nellie " reactions that have developed over the past few years .
We should be encouraging inquisitiveness , exploration and learning in our children or we will just produce more mediocre administrators .
Kids do things at home , bring them to school and show their friends .
As long as it was not clearly a weapon or some other prohibited device there should not be a problem with it.We are applying the same " sterile area " rules that supposedly exist in our airports to our schools .
Will TSA be staffing the schools to keep out prohibited items ? Unless the child lied about what the device was it appears that the principal overreacted and did not apply too much common sense .
It sounds like a pretty cool idea to use a Gatoraide bottle as a focusing point for a sonic device .
Smart kid to think that through and to try something with it.How many people who read / .
have tried out other things like this in their childhood ?
Most of us have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is part of the "nervous Nellie" reactions that have developed over the past few years.
We should be encouraging inquisitiveness, exploration and learning in our children or we will just produce more mediocre administrators.
Kids do things at home, bring them to school and show their friends.
As long as it was not clearly a weapon or some other prohibited device there should not be a problem with it.We are applying the same "sterile area" rules that supposedly exist in our airports to our schools.
Will TSA be staffing the schools to keep out prohibited items?Unless the child lied about what the device was it appears that the principal overreacted and did not apply too much common sense.
It sounds like a pretty cool idea to use a Gatoraide bottle as a focusing point for a sonic device.
Smart kid to think that through and to try something with it.How many people who read /.
have tried out other things like this in their childhood?
Most of us have.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30810780</id>
	<title>Re:Talk about overreacting</title>
	<author>Phred T. Magnificent</author>
	<datestamp>1263843900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In high school (back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and TV was black and white) a group of us put together a game of assassination with toy guns, foam rubber knives, methylene blue and what-have-you.  The rule was that your "weapon" couldn't do any actual physical harm to the target, but that it otherwise had to in some way resemble the real thing -- e.g. guns had to actually shoot something, poisons had to change the color or taste of the food, etc.</p><p>As a concession to school rules, we agreed not to play during class.  Between classes, at lunch or on the way to or from school was fine.</p><p>I shudder to think where a group of kids would end up if they did that today...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In high school ( back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and TV was black and white ) a group of us put together a game of assassination with toy guns , foam rubber knives , methylene blue and what-have-you .
The rule was that your " weapon " could n't do any actual physical harm to the target , but that it otherwise had to in some way resemble the real thing -- e.g .
guns had to actually shoot something , poisons had to change the color or taste of the food , etc.As a concession to school rules , we agreed not to play during class .
Between classes , at lunch or on the way to or from school was fine.I shudder to think where a group of kids would end up if they did that today.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In high school (back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and TV was black and white) a group of us put together a game of assassination with toy guns, foam rubber knives, methylene blue and what-have-you.
The rule was that your "weapon" couldn't do any actual physical harm to the target, but that it otherwise had to in some way resemble the real thing -- e.g.
guns had to actually shoot something, poisons had to change the color or taste of the food, etc.As a concession to school rules, we agreed not to play during class.
Between classes, at lunch or on the way to or from school was fine.I shudder to think where a group of kids would end up if they did that today...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30801084</id>
	<title>Re:Call themselves teachers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263722100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;Odds are if it looks like a bomb to the layman, it's probably a prop.</p><p>Part of the problem is the viewer.   People take for granted what they see in the movies.  James Bond or 24 or Mission Impossible taught them what a bomb "should" look like -and like your prop, that always involves some dramatic timer and colorful coils of wire and an obvious explosive.</p><p>As you note, real bombs often do not look anything like that.   Reality doesn't need to imitate Hollywood for effect.  Real bombs just need to go boom, not have colorful wires and a nifty timer.   Real explosions don't look like big fireballs of gasoline either.</p><p>The result of this teaching by movie is that people don't know a real bomb when they see it, they panic over science projects, and when actual crimes happen or some sort of bad event happens, the first reaction from people is often "I thought someone was filming a movie!"  despite the fact that most of them have never seen a movie being filmed and ignore the lack of cameras or actors or anything that looks like it's part of a movie set.</p><p>When the first alien appears, people will assume it's a movie being filmed, right up until the second the alien eats them.</p><p>When the next nuclear weapon is detonated in a city (which will happen, someday), or when WW 3 starts, those seeing the missile trails or distant explosions will think it's a movie being filmed, up until they are vaporized.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Odds are if it looks like a bomb to the layman , it 's probably a prop.Part of the problem is the viewer .
People take for granted what they see in the movies .
James Bond or 24 or Mission Impossible taught them what a bomb " should " look like -and like your prop , that always involves some dramatic timer and colorful coils of wire and an obvious explosive.As you note , real bombs often do not look anything like that .
Reality does n't need to imitate Hollywood for effect .
Real bombs just need to go boom , not have colorful wires and a nifty timer .
Real explosions do n't look like big fireballs of gasoline either.The result of this teaching by movie is that people do n't know a real bomb when they see it , they panic over science projects , and when actual crimes happen or some sort of bad event happens , the first reaction from people is often " I thought someone was filming a movie !
" despite the fact that most of them have never seen a movie being filmed and ignore the lack of cameras or actors or anything that looks like it 's part of a movie set.When the first alien appears , people will assume it 's a movie being filmed , right up until the second the alien eats them.When the next nuclear weapon is detonated in a city ( which will happen , someday ) , or when WW 3 starts , those seeing the missile trails or distant explosions will think it 's a movie being filmed , up until they are vaporized .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;Odds are if it looks like a bomb to the layman, it's probably a prop.Part of the problem is the viewer.
People take for granted what they see in the movies.
James Bond or 24 or Mission Impossible taught them what a bomb "should" look like -and like your prop, that always involves some dramatic timer and colorful coils of wire and an obvious explosive.As you note, real bombs often do not look anything like that.
Reality doesn't need to imitate Hollywood for effect.
Real bombs just need to go boom, not have colorful wires and a nifty timer.
Real explosions don't look like big fireballs of gasoline either.The result of this teaching by movie is that people don't know a real bomb when they see it, they panic over science projects, and when actual crimes happen or some sort of bad event happens, the first reaction from people is often "I thought someone was filming a movie!
"  despite the fact that most of them have never seen a movie being filmed and ignore the lack of cameras or actors or anything that looks like it's part of a movie set.When the first alien appears, people will assume it's a movie being filmed, right up until the second the alien eats them.When the next nuclear weapon is detonated in a city (which will happen, someday), or when WW 3 starts, those seeing the missile trails or distant explosions will think it's a movie being filmed, up until they are vaporized.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30797120</id>
	<title>So what grade do you suppose....</title>
	<author>3seas</author>
	<datestamp>1263727680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>he got for the project?</p><p>For a motion detector it sure created a lot of motion.<br>Or did his project bomb?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>he got for the project ? For a motion detector it sure created a lot of motion.Or did his project bomb ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>he got for the project?For a motion detector it sure created a lot of motion.Or did his project bomb?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795732</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>murphyje</author>
	<datestamp>1263659040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's the school dress policy he violated. Nothing about the Friday Presentation Day includes a bundle of plastic and wires. Perhaps if he had included duct tape, it would have been alright.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the school dress policy he violated .
Nothing about the Friday Presentation Day includes a bundle of plastic and wires .
Perhaps if he had included duct tape , it would have been alright .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the school dress policy he violated.
Nothing about the Friday Presentation Day includes a bundle of plastic and wires.
Perhaps if he had included duct tape, it would have been alright.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793764</id>
	<title>School policy</title>
	<author>michaelmalak</author>
	<datestamp>1263641340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>There you have it: using wires in a science project violates school policy.<p>There's a new DVD out called <a href="http://www.thewaronkids.com/" title="thewaronkids.com">The War on Kids</a> [thewaronkids.com].  The thesis is that schools are prisons and are about surveillance, metal detectors, and control.  One of the best parts is where they are receiving a tour through a school, and they ask to see the library, which has a high-security metal door with metal grate over the glass.  The principal can't find the key and asks, "did you really need to get in here?"</p><p>Learning is against school policy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There you have it : using wires in a science project violates school policy.There 's a new DVD out called The War on Kids [ thewaronkids.com ] .
The thesis is that schools are prisons and are about surveillance , metal detectors , and control .
One of the best parts is where they are receiving a tour through a school , and they ask to see the library , which has a high-security metal door with metal grate over the glass .
The principal ca n't find the key and asks , " did you really need to get in here ?
" Learning is against school policy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There you have it: using wires in a science project violates school policy.There's a new DVD out called The War on Kids [thewaronkids.com].
The thesis is that schools are prisons and are about surveillance, metal detectors, and control.
One of the best parts is where they are receiving a tour through a school, and they ask to see the library, which has a high-security metal door with metal grate over the glass.
The principal can't find the key and asks, "did you really need to get in here?
"Learning is against school policy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793750</id>
	<title>Re:Talk about overreacting</title>
	<author>houghi</author>
	<datestamp>1263641220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a kid I played killing people. It was either cowboys and indians or police and robbers. But now apparently kids need to be cocooned till they are 18 and then must know everything at once. No time to learn what is right and wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a kid I played killing people .
It was either cowboys and indians or police and robbers .
But now apparently kids need to be cocooned till they are 18 and then must know everything at once .
No time to learn what is right and wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a kid I played killing people.
It was either cowboys and indians or police and robbers.
But now apparently kids need to be cocooned till they are 18 and then must know everything at once.
No time to learn what is right and wrong.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796002</id>
	<title>The principal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263662880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Principal has no principles!  Hes an idiot, a moron, someone who never ever participated in a science project.  I have a whole household of empty old containers with wires sticking out.  A gatorade bottle is excellent as an electronics case: its dry when empty, lightweight, probably see-through, so that you can actually see no explosive materials inside.... Its an electronics project for a science fair.  There is scientific stuff inside.  I hate to call the principal a mentally challenged fucktard, I hate to use the Bart Simpson word "Craptacular" when describing his actions, but sadly, its the most appropriate adjective for this situation.  I'm very very disappointed.  Its much like the US government arresting scientists doing work on biological contagens like anthrax 5 years ago.  No they are not terrorists, stop treating them like they are.  This is very much a case of being judge, jury and executioner without there being any crime.  STOP IT, FUCKING STOP IT NOW!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Principal has no principles !
Hes an idiot , a moron , someone who never ever participated in a science project .
I have a whole household of empty old containers with wires sticking out .
A gatorade bottle is excellent as an electronics case : its dry when empty , lightweight , probably see-through , so that you can actually see no explosive materials inside.... Its an electronics project for a science fair .
There is scientific stuff inside .
I hate to call the principal a mentally challenged fucktard , I hate to use the Bart Simpson word " Craptacular " when describing his actions , but sadly , its the most appropriate adjective for this situation .
I 'm very very disappointed .
Its much like the US government arresting scientists doing work on biological contagens like anthrax 5 years ago .
No they are not terrorists , stop treating them like they are .
This is very much a case of being judge , jury and executioner without there being any crime .
STOP IT , FUCKING STOP IT NOW !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Principal has no principles!
Hes an idiot, a moron, someone who never ever participated in a science project.
I have a whole household of empty old containers with wires sticking out.
A gatorade bottle is excellent as an electronics case: its dry when empty, lightweight, probably see-through, so that you can actually see no explosive materials inside.... Its an electronics project for a science fair.
There is scientific stuff inside.
I hate to call the principal a mentally challenged fucktard, I hate to use the Bart Simpson word "Craptacular" when describing his actions, but sadly, its the most appropriate adjective for this situation.
I'm very very disappointed.
Its much like the US government arresting scientists doing work on biological contagens like anthrax 5 years ago.
No they are not terrorists, stop treating them like they are.
This is very much a case of being judge, jury and executioner without there being any crime.
STOP IT, FUCKING STOP IT NOW!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793572</id>
	<title>Re:What if it was really a bomb?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263640080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"OK either way they are going to get me. At least let me take the path where I look ridiculous but keep my job."</p><p>That is the problem.... that is why this school VP should be fired.</p><p>There has to be consequences... Persons such as this school vice principle should be technically literate enough to look at such a thing and evaluate the danger....  The Bar MUST be raised.... how long before it is illegal to open electronic devices ( they are filled with electronic components and wires). How long before possessing such things is considered on par with shouting fire in a theatre?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" OK either way they are going to get me .
At least let me take the path where I look ridiculous but keep my job .
" That is the problem.... that is why this school VP should be fired.There has to be consequences... Persons such as this school vice principle should be technically literate enough to look at such a thing and evaluate the danger.... The Bar MUST be raised.... how long before it is illegal to open electronic devices ( they are filled with electronic components and wires ) .
How long before possessing such things is considered on par with shouting fire in a theatre ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"OK either way they are going to get me.
At least let me take the path where I look ridiculous but keep my job.
"That is the problem.... that is why this school VP should be fired.There has to be consequences... Persons such as this school vice principle should be technically literate enough to look at such a thing and evaluate the danger....  The Bar MUST be raised.... how long before it is illegal to open electronic devices ( they are filled with electronic components and wires).
How long before possessing such things is considered on par with shouting fire in a theatre?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795810</id>
	<title>Smarter than the teachers.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263659940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are soooo right and I am soooo glad. It gives me some hope for the future.</p><p>On the other hand, I have a sister-in-law who teaches special education (learning disable and emotionally behaviorally disturbed) at a middle school (~11-14 year olds) One of her kids brought an UZ to school one day to impress his friends or bullies. Probably illegal and a violation of school policy. I don't think that that school was know for its technology program though. I hope the vice-principal gets counselling it sure seems like a teachable moment for him, even if he did exactly the right thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are soooo right and I am soooo glad .
It gives me some hope for the future.On the other hand , I have a sister-in-law who teaches special education ( learning disable and emotionally behaviorally disturbed ) at a middle school ( ~ 11-14 year olds ) One of her kids brought an UZ to school one day to impress his friends or bullies .
Probably illegal and a violation of school policy .
I do n't think that that school was know for its technology program though .
I hope the vice-principal gets counselling it sure seems like a teachable moment for him , even if he did exactly the right thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are soooo right and I am soooo glad.
It gives me some hope for the future.On the other hand, I have a sister-in-law who teaches special education (learning disable and emotionally behaviorally disturbed) at a middle school (~11-14 year olds) One of her kids brought an UZ to school one day to impress his friends or bullies.
Probably illegal and a violation of school policy.
I don't think that that school was know for its technology program though.
I hope the vice-principal gets counselling it sure seems like a teachable moment for him, even if he did exactly the right thing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793956</id>
	<title>Re:Talk about overreacting</title>
	<author>h4rm0ny</author>
	<datestamp>1263642360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>
A couple of kids in my year made explosives and tried to make napalm (without success in the latter case). Uh, so I heard.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A couple of kids in my year made explosives and tried to make napalm ( without success in the latter case ) .
Uh , so I heard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
A couple of kids in my year made explosives and tried to make napalm (without success in the latter case).
Uh, so I heard.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794834</id>
	<title>Re:Call themselves teachers?</title>
	<author>Darinbob</author>
	<datestamp>1263648900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Those who can't, teach.  Those who can't teach, administrate.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Those who ca n't , teach .
Those who ca n't teach , administrate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those who can't, teach.
Those who can't teach, administrate.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30807728</id>
	<title>Re:I would have been sent to Guantanamo Bay</title>
	<author>rgviza</author>
	<datestamp>1263829020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No shit. I built a model rocket with my son. We went up to the park to send it up and did. Then I read a story about the ATF requiring a license for solid fuel model rockets after Sept 11. I'm not sure how that equates to terrorists flying a 747 into a building or why that should have prompted this licensing requirement.</p><p>If I wanted to build a rocket-bomb, I wouldn't be getting a license for it. Conversely, if a terrorist wants to build one, he can just get a license.</p><p>Had I been caught, at that time, I could have went to jail for doing the same thing my dad did with me when I was a kid. Luckily the NAR subsequently took the ATF to court over this and won last May <a href="http://www.space-rockets.com/arsanews.html#nolist" title="space-rockets.com">http://www.space-rockets.com/arsanews.html#nolist</a> [space-rockets.com], getting ACPC solid fuel off of the ATF's list.</p><p>All is not lost. Some of this "anti-terrorism" legislation is getting beat down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No shit .
I built a model rocket with my son .
We went up to the park to send it up and did .
Then I read a story about the ATF requiring a license for solid fuel model rockets after Sept 11 .
I 'm not sure how that equates to terrorists flying a 747 into a building or why that should have prompted this licensing requirement.If I wanted to build a rocket-bomb , I would n't be getting a license for it .
Conversely , if a terrorist wants to build one , he can just get a license.Had I been caught , at that time , I could have went to jail for doing the same thing my dad did with me when I was a kid .
Luckily the NAR subsequently took the ATF to court over this and won last May http : //www.space-rockets.com/arsanews.html # nolist [ space-rockets.com ] , getting ACPC solid fuel off of the ATF 's list.All is not lost .
Some of this " anti-terrorism " legislation is getting beat down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No shit.
I built a model rocket with my son.
We went up to the park to send it up and did.
Then I read a story about the ATF requiring a license for solid fuel model rockets after Sept 11.
I'm not sure how that equates to terrorists flying a 747 into a building or why that should have prompted this licensing requirement.If I wanted to build a rocket-bomb, I wouldn't be getting a license for it.
Conversely, if a terrorist wants to build one, he can just get a license.Had I been caught, at that time, I could have went to jail for doing the same thing my dad did with me when I was a kid.
Luckily the NAR subsequently took the ATF to court over this and won last May http://www.space-rockets.com/arsanews.html#nolist [space-rockets.com], getting ACPC solid fuel off of the ATF's list.All is not lost.
Some of this "anti-terrorism" legislation is getting beat down.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796288</id>
	<title>Critical thinking.</title>
	<author>sparkeyjames</author>
	<datestamp>1263667860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All that for a photo detector. And in a school that prides itself on<br>technology education. I find it laughable that a school that promotes<br>areas of education that require a critical thought process has<br>administrators that seem to be exempt from the same.<br>Fear has taken over our educational system to the detriment of<br>it's original purpose which is to educate our children not imprison<br>them for 7 hours a day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All that for a photo detector .
And in a school that prides itself ontechnology education .
I find it laughable that a school that promotesareas of education that require a critical thought process hasadministrators that seem to be exempt from the same.Fear has taken over our educational system to the detriment ofit 's original purpose which is to educate our children not imprisonthem for 7 hours a day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All that for a photo detector.
And in a school that prides itself ontechnology education.
I find it laughable that a school that promotesareas of education that require a critical thought process hasadministrators that seem to be exempt from the same.Fear has taken over our educational system to the detriment ofit's original purpose which is to educate our children not imprisonthem for 7 hours a day.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793788</id>
	<title>Re:Electronics are scary</title>
	<author>Chas</author>
	<datestamp>1263641460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We're talking about work done by an 11 year old kid here on a very simple implementation of a motion detector.</p><p>Not some final-year electrical engineering student wiring up a blinknenlights redux.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're talking about work done by an 11 year old kid here on a very simple implementation of a motion detector.Not some final-year electrical engineering student wiring up a blinknenlights redux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We're talking about work done by an 11 year old kid here on a very simple implementation of a motion detector.Not some final-year electrical engineering student wiring up a blinknenlights redux.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794598</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>coolgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1263646800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You could share your thoughts with <a href="http://www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/contact/" title="mtechmiddle.org">them</a> [mtechmiddle.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could share your thoughts with them [ mtechmiddle.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could share your thoughts with them [mtechmiddle.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793596</id>
	<title>A day with the vice principal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263640260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He bolted out of bed and carefully defused
the alarm clock before it went off, after concluding that... it was a bomb.</p><p>He went to shave, but before turning it
on decided to throw the razor out the window
after concluding that... it was a bomb.</p><p>He decided not to make toast after concluding
that the toaster was...</p><p>Better not drive, he thought...</p><p>Got on a bus.  There was a guy with a
radio.  He called 911.  Got off the bus before
the police arrived though.</p><p>Arrived at school.  Reported science fair
project as possible bomb.</p><p>Police showed up at school.  Hey?  Are you
the guy who called 911?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He bolted out of bed and carefully defused the alarm clock before it went off , after concluding that... it was a bomb.He went to shave , but before turning it on decided to throw the razor out the window after concluding that... it was a bomb.He decided not to make toast after concluding that the toaster was...Better not drive , he thought...Got on a bus .
There was a guy with a radio .
He called 911 .
Got off the bus before the police arrived though.Arrived at school .
Reported science fair project as possible bomb.Police showed up at school .
Hey ? Are you the guy who called 911 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He bolted out of bed and carefully defused
the alarm clock before it went off, after concluding that... it was a bomb.He went to shave, but before turning it
on decided to throw the razor out the window
after concluding that... it was a bomb.He decided not to make toast after concluding
that the toaster was...Better not drive, he thought...Got on a bus.
There was a guy with a
radio.
He called 911.
Got off the bus before
the police arrived though.Arrived at school.
Reported science fair
project as possible bomb.Police showed up at school.
Hey?  Are you
the guy who called 911?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796524</id>
	<title>Re:Administratium is dense</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263759000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When?</p><p>Hardly when.</p><p>Most of the time.  Every freaking day.</p><p>This is what happens every day, because the students are usually smarter than the teachers, every day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When ? Hardly when.Most of the time .
Every freaking day.This is what happens every day , because the students are usually smarter than the teachers , every day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When?Hardly when.Most of the time.
Every freaking day.This is what happens every day, because the students are usually smarter than the teachers, every day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30817750</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1263903000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I'm not a parent but I would almost guess thats something worth taking legal actions against the school.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
WTF is it with Americans wanting to sue each other all the time?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not a parent but I would almost guess thats something worth taking legal actions against the school .
WTF is it with Americans wanting to sue each other all the time ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not a parent but I would almost guess thats something worth taking legal actions against the school.
WTF is it with Americans wanting to sue each other all the time?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794332</id>
	<title>Counseling?</title>
	<author>Vegeta99</author>
	<datestamp>1263644940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Counseling for <i>what?</i> The trauma of being accused of being a bomber? I hope that's what it is, and not the fact that the kid has a hobby and was showing it off to kids.</p><p>When I was in middle school, the school got evacuated because of a kid with a CD player in his locker. It was on pause, and the CD was in kinda crooked, making a faint ticking sound. They definitely didn't even bother to ask the kid, because he was in the same class as me (gym, mind you, so we were stuck standing outside in shorts in 30F weather. And no, sonny, walking to your house across the street is NOT okay), and got hauled off by the cops.</p><p>In the same middle school, I pretty much was all the teachers' techie. As a result, I had the admin password to all the classroom computers. My last year there I was suspended for knowing the password (even though the teachers tried to defend me).</p><p>Really think I'll be homeschooling my own children. Had I been this kid's dad, I'd have popped that vice principal square in the teeth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Counseling for what ?
The trauma of being accused of being a bomber ?
I hope that 's what it is , and not the fact that the kid has a hobby and was showing it off to kids.When I was in middle school , the school got evacuated because of a kid with a CD player in his locker .
It was on pause , and the CD was in kinda crooked , making a faint ticking sound .
They definitely did n't even bother to ask the kid , because he was in the same class as me ( gym , mind you , so we were stuck standing outside in shorts in 30F weather .
And no , sonny , walking to your house across the street is NOT okay ) , and got hauled off by the cops.In the same middle school , I pretty much was all the teachers ' techie .
As a result , I had the admin password to all the classroom computers .
My last year there I was suspended for knowing the password ( even though the teachers tried to defend me ) .Really think I 'll be homeschooling my own children .
Had I been this kid 's dad , I 'd have popped that vice principal square in the teeth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Counseling for what?
The trauma of being accused of being a bomber?
I hope that's what it is, and not the fact that the kid has a hobby and was showing it off to kids.When I was in middle school, the school got evacuated because of a kid with a CD player in his locker.
It was on pause, and the CD was in kinda crooked, making a faint ticking sound.
They definitely didn't even bother to ask the kid, because he was in the same class as me (gym, mind you, so we were stuck standing outside in shorts in 30F weather.
And no, sonny, walking to your house across the street is NOT okay), and got hauled off by the cops.In the same middle school, I pretty much was all the teachers' techie.
As a result, I had the admin password to all the classroom computers.
My last year there I was suspended for knowing the password (even though the teachers tried to defend me).Really think I'll be homeschooling my own children.
Had I been this kid's dad, I'd have popped that vice principal square in the teeth.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794042</id>
	<title>Re:This really takes the cake</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263642960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What happened to the country that put the first man on the moon? We have gone completely insane.</p><p>I think you just answered your own question.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What happened to the country that put the first man on the moon ?
We have gone completely insane.I think you just answered your own question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What happened to the country that put the first man on the moon?
We have gone completely insane.I think you just answered your own question.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794180</id>
	<title>Re:Apparently, not so much</title>
	<author>Dr\_Barnowl</author>
	<datestamp>1263643920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't be daft - who do you think's going to be <i>their</i> pool of cheap slave labour?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't be daft - who do you think 's going to be their pool of cheap slave labour ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't be daft - who do you think's going to be their pool of cheap slave labour?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793532</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795476</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>FragHARD</author>
	<datestamp>1263656280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The counseling he will need when he finds out that local government WASTED over $200,000.00 on responding to his science project, they will counsel him to show that the government can waste as much money as needed to protect him from himself....</htmltext>
<tokenext>The counseling he will need when he finds out that local government WASTED over $ 200,000.00 on responding to his science project , they will counsel him to show that the government can waste as much money as needed to protect him from himself... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The counseling he will need when he finds out that local government WASTED over $200,000.00 on responding to his science project, they will counsel him to show that the government can waste as much money as needed to protect him from himself....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793332</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795604</id>
	<title>Re:What if it was really a bomb?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263657600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The worst part being there is NO precedence for a school BOMBING.  All the other school "terrorists" have only ever used GUNS.  I say terrorists in quotations because they are merely very deeply psychologically disturbed individuals and not terrorists at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The worst part being there is NO precedence for a school BOMBING .
All the other school " terrorists " have only ever used GUNS .
I say terrorists in quotations because they are merely very deeply psychologically disturbed individuals and not terrorists at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The worst part being there is NO precedence for a school BOMBING.
All the other school "terrorists" have only ever used GUNS.
I say terrorists in quotations because they are merely very deeply psychologically disturbed individuals and not terrorists at all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793378</id>
	<title>Apparently, not so much</title>
	<author>studog-slashdot</author>
	<datestamp>1263638880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>The school, which has about 440 students in grades 6 to 8 and <b>emphasizes technology skills</b>, was initially put on lockdown while authorities responded.</i>
</p><p>...Stu</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The school , which has about 440 students in grades 6 to 8 and emphasizes technology skills , was initially put on lockdown while authorities responded .
...Stu</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The school, which has about 440 students in grades 6 to 8 and emphasizes technology skills, was initially put on lockdown while authorities responded.
...Stu</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793908</id>
	<title>Article missing a critical detail.</title>
	<author>BitterOak</author>
	<datestamp>1263642120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I actually read TFA, and it states, as the summary quotes, "Apparently, the student violated school policies", but the article doesn't state the policy in question.  It is hard to know if this is a case of stupid overreaction or a real violation of the rules.  Does anyone know the exact wording of this "policy"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually read TFA , and it states , as the summary quotes , " Apparently , the student violated school policies " , but the article does n't state the policy in question .
It is hard to know if this is a case of stupid overreaction or a real violation of the rules .
Does anyone know the exact wording of this " policy " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually read TFA, and it states, as the summary quotes, "Apparently, the student violated school policies", but the article doesn't state the policy in question.
It is hard to know if this is a case of stupid overreaction or a real violation of the rules.
Does anyone know the exact wording of this "policy"?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30809046</id>
	<title>Re:Talk about overreacting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263836220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Unless the child lied about what the device was it appears that the principal overreacted and did not apply too much common sense. It sounds like a pretty cool idea to use a Gatoraide bottle as a focusing point for a sonic device. Smart kid to think that through and to try something with it.</p><p>How many people who read<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. have tried out other things like this in their childhood? Most of us have."</p><p>Nope. I was boring. I just used to make rockets and bombs like the rest of the neighbourhood children did......</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Unless the child lied about what the device was it appears that the principal overreacted and did not apply too much common sense .
It sounds like a pretty cool idea to use a Gatoraide bottle as a focusing point for a sonic device .
Smart kid to think that through and to try something with it.How many people who read / .
have tried out other things like this in their childhood ?
Most of us have. " Nope .
I was boring .
I just used to make rockets and bombs like the rest of the neighbourhood children did..... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Unless the child lied about what the device was it appears that the principal overreacted and did not apply too much common sense.
It sounds like a pretty cool idea to use a Gatoraide bottle as a focusing point for a sonic device.
Smart kid to think that through and to try something with it.How many people who read /.
have tried out other things like this in their childhood?
Most of us have."Nope.
I was boring.
I just used to make rockets and bombs like the rest of the neighbourhood children did......</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794076</id>
	<title>Re:Apparently, not so much</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1263643200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like how they put the school in lockdown.  Hey, there might be a bomb in the school!  Quick, lock all the doors!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like how they put the school in lockdown .
Hey , there might be a bomb in the school !
Quick , lock all the doors !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like how they put the school in lockdown.
Hey, there might be a bomb in the school!
Quick, lock all the doors!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793378</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795402</id>
	<title>Re:Talk about overreacting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263655500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet this is what went down:</p><p>Teacher: Hey you, what's that you have there?<br>Kid: A proximity sensor.<br>Teacher:<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>Teacher: ZOMG A PROXIMITY MINE RUN</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet this is what went down : Teacher : Hey you , what 's that you have there ? Kid : A proximity sensor.Teacher : ...Teacher : ZOMG A PROXIMITY MINE RUN</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet this is what went down:Teacher: Hey you, what's that you have there?Kid: A proximity sensor.Teacher: ...Teacher: ZOMG A PROXIMITY MINE RUN</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30798990</id>
	<title>Everyone should send them a little note</title>
	<author>shovas</author>
	<datestamp>1263749220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I linked the source article and the slashdot article and told them they should be ashamed of themselves.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I linked the source article and the slashdot article and told them they should be ashamed of themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I linked the source article and the slashdot article and told them they should be ashamed of themselves.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793848</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795426</id>
	<title>Re:Administratium is dense</title>
	<author>failedlogic</author>
	<datestamp>1263655860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've lost respect for most principals. I can't remember any that were seemingly interested or engaged with students save for disciplinary action. Most did not want to even speak with students. Their job, in part, should be to make the learning environment encouraging to students instead of instilling fear and distrust. This is certainly the opposite of what I found with the two post-secondary institutions I graduated from.</p><p>A relative was a HS principal. I acknowledge he happens to have strong opinions and is perhaps a bit arrogant. But, when we last met a few years ago when I was 28, he still spoke to me as a mere child (it is not just because of a familial relationship). He similarly speaks to his kids the same way even though I am much more responsible.</p><p>I've met some of the other principles that are his colleagues and even as a smart, trouble-free teenager, I was always spoken down to.</p><p>This incident reminds me of the science fair Dihydrogen Monoxide scare: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen\_monoxide\_hoax" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen\_monoxide\_hoax</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've lost respect for most principals .
I ca n't remember any that were seemingly interested or engaged with students save for disciplinary action .
Most did not want to even speak with students .
Their job , in part , should be to make the learning environment encouraging to students instead of instilling fear and distrust .
This is certainly the opposite of what I found with the two post-secondary institutions I graduated from.A relative was a HS principal .
I acknowledge he happens to have strong opinions and is perhaps a bit arrogant .
But , when we last met a few years ago when I was 28 , he still spoke to me as a mere child ( it is not just because of a familial relationship ) .
He similarly speaks to his kids the same way even though I am much more responsible.I 've met some of the other principles that are his colleagues and even as a smart , trouble-free teenager , I was always spoken down to.This incident reminds me of the science fair Dihydrogen Monoxide scare : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen \ _monoxide \ _hoax [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've lost respect for most principals.
I can't remember any that were seemingly interested or engaged with students save for disciplinary action.
Most did not want to even speak with students.
Their job, in part, should be to make the learning environment encouraging to students instead of instilling fear and distrust.
This is certainly the opposite of what I found with the two post-secondary institutions I graduated from.A relative was a HS principal.
I acknowledge he happens to have strong opinions and is perhaps a bit arrogant.
But, when we last met a few years ago when I was 28, he still spoke to me as a mere child (it is not just because of a familial relationship).
He similarly speaks to his kids the same way even though I am much more responsible.I've met some of the other principles that are his colleagues and even as a smart, trouble-free teenager, I was always spoken down to.This incident reminds me of the science fair Dihydrogen Monoxide scare: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen\_monoxide\_hoax [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796990</id>
	<title>To be fair to the police ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263725100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The student WAS wearing an ATHF shirt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The student WAS wearing an ATHF shirt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The student WAS wearing an ATHF shirt.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30806216</id>
	<title>Re:US Schools</title>
	<author>SilasMortimer</author>
	<datestamp>1263815460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not just the educational system, it's our society.<br> <br>

There is a large contingent of Americans who fear what they might call, if they're honest, over-education. Institutions of higher learning are often believed to be indoctrinating (or "brainwashing", as they put it) students to be unpatriotic, often citing the teaching of evolution as being anathema to the morals of society. The term "educated fools" is common among the poorer population. Human rights are generally only important in regards to "people like you", while the extension of it especially to minority groups is seen as some sort of infringement. Combine this with fear of said minority groups and anyone else considered an "outsider", and it's only natural that this extends to the public schools.<br> <br>

This is what makes our educational system an overall failure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not just the educational system , it 's our society .
There is a large contingent of Americans who fear what they might call , if they 're honest , over-education .
Institutions of higher learning are often believed to be indoctrinating ( or " brainwashing " , as they put it ) students to be unpatriotic , often citing the teaching of evolution as being anathema to the morals of society .
The term " educated fools " is common among the poorer population .
Human rights are generally only important in regards to " people like you " , while the extension of it especially to minority groups is seen as some sort of infringement .
Combine this with fear of said minority groups and anyone else considered an " outsider " , and it 's only natural that this extends to the public schools .
This is what makes our educational system an overall failure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not just the educational system, it's our society.
There is a large contingent of Americans who fear what they might call, if they're honest, over-education.
Institutions of higher learning are often believed to be indoctrinating (or "brainwashing", as they put it) students to be unpatriotic, often citing the teaching of evolution as being anathema to the morals of society.
The term "educated fools" is common among the poorer population.
Human rights are generally only important in regards to "people like you", while the extension of it especially to minority groups is seen as some sort of infringement.
Combine this with fear of said minority groups and anyone else considered an "outsider", and it's only natural that this extends to the public schools.
This is what makes our educational system an overall failure.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794872</id>
	<title>PARANOIA-The Destroya!</title>
	<author>Newer Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1263649440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This has to end! Since 9/11, PARANOIA has completely taken over in the USA!!  Al Quaida must be SO happy-as their terrorism has certainly succeeded FAR more then in their wildest dreams!

The single best thing we could have done was give the third FINGER to Al Quaida, and gone about our normal business. But we STUPID Americans did not-and now we're a scared bunch of wussies for it!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>This has to end !
Since 9/11 , PARANOIA has completely taken over in the USA ! !
Al Quaida must be SO happy-as their terrorism has certainly succeeded FAR more then in their wildest dreams !
The single best thing we could have done was give the third FINGER to Al Quaida , and gone about our normal business .
But we STUPID Americans did not-and now we 're a scared bunch of wussies for it ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This has to end!
Since 9/11, PARANOIA has completely taken over in the USA!!
Al Quaida must be SO happy-as their terrorism has certainly succeeded FAR more then in their wildest dreams!
The single best thing we could have done was give the third FINGER to Al Quaida, and gone about our normal business.
But we STUPID Americans did not-and now we're a scared bunch of wussies for it!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794214</id>
	<title>Re:Electronics are scary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263644160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was a Gatorade bottle. I don't know if you've ever drunk Gatorade, but bottles don't get a whole lot more transparent than that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was a Gatorade bottle .
I do n't know if you 've ever drunk Gatorade , but bottles do n't get a whole lot more transparent than that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was a Gatorade bottle.
I don't know if you've ever drunk Gatorade, but bottles don't get a whole lot more transparent than that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795252</id>
	<title>Re:Insane times we live in.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263653580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought -only- air marshals could carry on an aircraft. No other LEO or military?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought -only- air marshals could carry on an aircraft .
No other LEO or military ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought -only- air marshals could carry on an aircraft.
No other LEO or military?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30806124</id>
	<title>Re:If you REALLY want to let them know what you th</title>
	<author>SilasMortimer</author>
	<datestamp>1263814620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thank you for providing that link. The following is the message I sent with that form.<p><div class="quote"><p>I'm sure you're getting a lot of these right now from other Slashdotters. But this is in a slightly different tone.<br> <br>

I would like to show you my sincerest gratitude. This is what people need to see. The more incidents like this, the better.<br> <br>

Every time I meet a parent of a particularly bright child in the public school system, I tell them about how their schools are failing the student. I'm collecting a growing body of evidence to support my claim, as my own story is purely anecdotal and questionable because of that. This is one of the best stories I've yet come across.<br> <br>

Our public school system is designed for the mediocre. Bright students are discouraged and not challenged enough while the poor students aren't given the attention they need. For the average student, this system of education is sufficient and will prepare them for the place in the workforce that's suitable for them. People are led to believe that magnet schools are the solution, but magnet schools are staffed with the same caliber of educators that other public schools are. Even the knowledgeable, above average teachers are stifled by reactionary administration and the growing prison-like atmosphere of schools designed to leave the teaching of critical thinking skills mostly to the students, their caretakers, universities, and extracurricular, outside groups.<br> <br>

While public schools will continue to regularly give examples of this, there are few so extreme as to get media attention. This is why I must applaud your actions. I do regret the trauma given to the boy and his family, but hopefully they will eventually realize their importance in the education about education that the general populace needs.<br> <br>

I will continue to watch for stories about your school. I am certain that you will continue to provide the evidence I need.<br> <br>

I thank you again.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you for providing that link .
The following is the message I sent with that form.I 'm sure you 're getting a lot of these right now from other Slashdotters .
But this is in a slightly different tone .
I would like to show you my sincerest gratitude .
This is what people need to see .
The more incidents like this , the better .
Every time I meet a parent of a particularly bright child in the public school system , I tell them about how their schools are failing the student .
I 'm collecting a growing body of evidence to support my claim , as my own story is purely anecdotal and questionable because of that .
This is one of the best stories I 've yet come across .
Our public school system is designed for the mediocre .
Bright students are discouraged and not challenged enough while the poor students are n't given the attention they need .
For the average student , this system of education is sufficient and will prepare them for the place in the workforce that 's suitable for them .
People are led to believe that magnet schools are the solution , but magnet schools are staffed with the same caliber of educators that other public schools are .
Even the knowledgeable , above average teachers are stifled by reactionary administration and the growing prison-like atmosphere of schools designed to leave the teaching of critical thinking skills mostly to the students , their caretakers , universities , and extracurricular , outside groups .
While public schools will continue to regularly give examples of this , there are few so extreme as to get media attention .
This is why I must applaud your actions .
I do regret the trauma given to the boy and his family , but hopefully they will eventually realize their importance in the education about education that the general populace needs .
I will continue to watch for stories about your school .
I am certain that you will continue to provide the evidence I need .
I thank you again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you for providing that link.
The following is the message I sent with that form.I'm sure you're getting a lot of these right now from other Slashdotters.
But this is in a slightly different tone.
I would like to show you my sincerest gratitude.
This is what people need to see.
The more incidents like this, the better.
Every time I meet a parent of a particularly bright child in the public school system, I tell them about how their schools are failing the student.
I'm collecting a growing body of evidence to support my claim, as my own story is purely anecdotal and questionable because of that.
This is one of the best stories I've yet come across.
Our public school system is designed for the mediocre.
Bright students are discouraged and not challenged enough while the poor students aren't given the attention they need.
For the average student, this system of education is sufficient and will prepare them for the place in the workforce that's suitable for them.
People are led to believe that magnet schools are the solution, but magnet schools are staffed with the same caliber of educators that other public schools are.
Even the knowledgeable, above average teachers are stifled by reactionary administration and the growing prison-like atmosphere of schools designed to leave the teaching of critical thinking skills mostly to the students, their caretakers, universities, and extracurricular, outside groups.
While public schools will continue to regularly give examples of this, there are few so extreme as to get media attention.
This is why I must applaud your actions.
I do regret the trauma given to the boy and his family, but hopefully they will eventually realize their importance in the education about education that the general populace needs.
I will continue to watch for stories about your school.
I am certain that you will continue to provide the evidence I need.
I thank you again.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793382</id>
	<title>Call themselves teachers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263638880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The real question is why are we letting people this stupid in charge of educating our children?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The real question is why are we letting people this stupid in charge of educating our children ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real question is why are we letting people this stupid in charge of educating our children?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794238</id>
	<title>The true irony is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263644340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that the article states the middle school "emphasizes technology skills".</p><p>And people wonder why science and technology are on the decline in the US.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that the article states the middle school " emphasizes technology skills " .And people wonder why science and technology are on the decline in the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that the article states the middle school "emphasizes technology skills".And people wonder why science and technology are on the decline in the US.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793832</id>
	<title>Nothing like 1984</title>
	<author>Velodra</author>
	<datestamp>1263641640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That's fucked up beyond 1984.</p></div><p>This is nothing like 1984. 1984 was about censorship and oppression, this is just paranoia. It probably happened due to a combination of the fear of terrorism and people's fear of technology they can't understand. Not they I don't think this both sad and slightly scary, but there are other things that can be wrong with society than trying to imitate 1984</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's fucked up beyond 1984.This is nothing like 1984 .
1984 was about censorship and oppression , this is just paranoia .
It probably happened due to a combination of the fear of terrorism and people 's fear of technology they ca n't understand .
Not they I do n't think this both sad and slightly scary , but there are other things that can be wrong with society than trying to imitate 1984</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's fucked up beyond 1984.This is nothing like 1984.
1984 was about censorship and oppression, this is just paranoia.
It probably happened due to a combination of the fear of terrorism and people's fear of technology they can't understand.
Not they I don't think this both sad and slightly scary, but there are other things that can be wrong with society than trying to imitate 1984
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793460</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795902</id>
	<title>morons</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263661320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>School principal, FAIL. Fucking moron. I had the FBI called on me in 10th grade in 74 for doing the math to calculate the critical mass of U235</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>School principal , FAIL .
Fucking moron .
I had the FBI called on me in 10th grade in 74 for doing the math to calculate the critical mass of U235</tokentext>
<sentencetext>School principal, FAIL.
Fucking moron.
I had the FBI called on me in 10th grade in 74 for doing the math to calculate the critical mass of U235</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794176</id>
	<title>Re:Science fairs before High School....</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1263643920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's a classic science fair project.  Still, I guess if you're in a war, there are casualties.</p><p>Now, the next question is why the US is always at war.  Sometimes even with actual opponents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a classic science fair project .
Still , I guess if you 're in a war , there are casualties.Now , the next question is why the US is always at war .
Sometimes even with actual opponents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a classic science fair project.
Still, I guess if you're in a war, there are casualties.Now, the next question is why the US is always at war.
Sometimes even with actual opponents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794462</id>
	<title>Re:Insane times we live in.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263645960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Soldiers in uniform are routinely picked for secondary screening because TSA knows its an easy way to fill their quota.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Soldiers in uniform are routinely picked for secondary screening because TSA knows its an easy way to fill their quota .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Soldiers in uniform are routinely picked for secondary screening because TSA knows its an easy way to fill their quota.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30806030</id>
	<title>Re:A day with the vice principal</title>
	<author>SilasMortimer</author>
	<datestamp>1263813240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suck, I suck, I suck, and this is totally going to get modded off-top and I completely deserve it.<br>
<br>
It's your quote. The phrase is "for all intents and purposes". I'm not picking on you. I'm a jackass, but I'm not picking on you. I just see this all the time and I try and I try, but my inner grammar Nazi is forcing me to finally say something.</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suck , I suck , I suck , and this is totally going to get modded off-top and I completely deserve it .
It 's your quote .
The phrase is " for all intents and purposes " .
I 'm not picking on you .
I 'm a jackass , but I 'm not picking on you .
I just see this all the time and I try and I try , but my inner grammar Nazi is forcing me to finally say something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suck, I suck, I suck, and this is totally going to get modded off-top and I completely deserve it.
It's your quote.
The phrase is "for all intents and purposes".
I'm not picking on you.
I'm a jackass, but I'm not picking on you.
I just see this all the time and I try and I try, but my inner grammar Nazi is forcing me to finally say something.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793596</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794244</id>
	<title>Re:Electronics are scary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263644400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The bottle was clear.  It's hard to get any more transparent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The bottle was clear .
It 's hard to get any more transparent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The bottle was clear.
It's hard to get any more transparent.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793426</id>
	<title>Science fairs before High School....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263639120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tend to show the deranged thoughts of the teachers more than anything else... I remember my project netted me a month of drug counseling, because the application "could" of been used to grow cannabis.... The project was just a kid showing how plants grew differently in different media, hydroponically, with soil, with microorganisms that were advertised to help bind nitrogen in roots and increase growth, and with plant hormones. (All save hydroponically done in the same bag soil, just with the different additives...)<br> <br>So my project was removed, and I was instructed not to build any more hydroponic settups in my spare time... Which my parents told me to ignore in my own home, but still.....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tend to show the deranged thoughts of the teachers more than anything else... I remember my project netted me a month of drug counseling , because the application " could " of been used to grow cannabis.... The project was just a kid showing how plants grew differently in different media , hydroponically , with soil , with microorganisms that were advertised to help bind nitrogen in roots and increase growth , and with plant hormones .
( All save hydroponically done in the same bag soil , just with the different additives... ) So my project was removed , and I was instructed not to build any more hydroponic settups in my spare time... Which my parents told me to ignore in my own home , but still.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tend to show the deranged thoughts of the teachers more than anything else... I remember my project netted me a month of drug counseling, because the application "could" of been used to grow cannabis.... The project was just a kid showing how plants grew differently in different media, hydroponically, with soil, with microorganisms that were advertised to help bind nitrogen in roots and increase growth, and with plant hormones.
(All save hydroponically done in the same bag soil, just with the different additives...) So my project was removed, and I was instructed not to build any more hydroponic settups in my spare time... Which my parents told me to ignore in my own home, but still.....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794186</id>
	<title>Protest To The School</title>
	<author>jlb.think</author>
	<datestamp>1263643980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>What we should all do is send letters of protest to the school.  I have just written them asking them to apologize to the student and his family.  I have suggested that the vice principal in question should be counseled on the proper way to react in such a situation.

I know the chances of the school issuing an apology is low, but enough of public pressure will eventually force them to.  And anyone who lives near this school should be their for the next board meeting to protest what has been done.

You can contact them here:
<a href="http://www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/contact/" title="mtechmiddle.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/contact/</a> [mtechmiddle.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>What we should all do is send letters of protest to the school .
I have just written them asking them to apologize to the student and his family .
I have suggested that the vice principal in question should be counseled on the proper way to react in such a situation .
I know the chances of the school issuing an apology is low , but enough of public pressure will eventually force them to .
And anyone who lives near this school should be their for the next board meeting to protest what has been done .
You can contact them here : http : //www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/contact/ [ mtechmiddle.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What we should all do is send letters of protest to the school.
I have just written them asking them to apologize to the student and his family.
I have suggested that the vice principal in question should be counseled on the proper way to react in such a situation.
I know the chances of the school issuing an apology is low, but enough of public pressure will eventually force them to.
And anyone who lives near this school should be their for the next board meeting to protest what has been done.
You can contact them here:
http://www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/contact/ [mtechmiddle.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793496</id>
	<title>Re:What if it was really a bomb?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263639660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're a school administrator, aren't you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're a school administrator , are n't you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're a school administrator, aren't you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793392</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795912</id>
	<title>Re:Call themselves teachers?</title>
	<author>ravenshrike</author>
	<datestamp>1263661500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because not only are 99.999\% of those who go after the job of high school principal power hungry monsters, but they are the utterly inept power hungry monsters, else they they would have a different job with more status. Basically, most principals are like Gilbert Gottfried in Problem Child 2</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because not only are 99.999 \ % of those who go after the job of high school principal power hungry monsters , but they are the utterly inept power hungry monsters , else they they would have a different job with more status .
Basically , most principals are like Gilbert Gottfried in Problem Child 2</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because not only are 99.999\% of those who go after the job of high school principal power hungry monsters, but they are the utterly inept power hungry monsters, else they they would have a different job with more status.
Basically, most principals are like Gilbert Gottfried in Problem Child 2</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793382</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796116</id>
	<title>Re:Insane times we live in.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263664800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He's not the only one. It happened to me while I was wearing a flight suit and carrying the issue beretta. Never mind the knife in my pocket (my letter said I was authorized to carry the sidearm and survival knife), they flipped about a metal paperclip in my medical records. I almost cried.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's not the only one .
It happened to me while I was wearing a flight suit and carrying the issue beretta .
Never mind the knife in my pocket ( my letter said I was authorized to carry the sidearm and survival knife ) , they flipped about a metal paperclip in my medical records .
I almost cried .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's not the only one.
It happened to me while I was wearing a flight suit and carrying the issue beretta.
Never mind the knife in my pocket (my letter said I was authorized to carry the sidearm and survival knife), they flipped about a metal paperclip in my medical records.
I almost cried.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793476</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794254</id>
	<title>Re:Article missing a critical detail.</title>
	<author>Rob the Bold</author>
	<datestamp>1263644460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I actually read TFA, and it states, as the summary quotes, "Apparently, the student violated school policies", but the article doesn't state the policy in question.  It is hard to know if this is a case of stupid overreaction or a real violation of the rules.  Does anyone know the exact wording of this "policy"?</p></div><p>"Under no circumstance shall the student, by action or inaction, directly or indirectly, cause school administration, faculty or staff to appear inept, hysterical or foolish, whether this is or is not the intent of the student."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually read TFA , and it states , as the summary quotes , " Apparently , the student violated school policies " , but the article does n't state the policy in question .
It is hard to know if this is a case of stupid overreaction or a real violation of the rules .
Does anyone know the exact wording of this " policy " ?
" Under no circumstance shall the student , by action or inaction , directly or indirectly , cause school administration , faculty or staff to appear inept , hysterical or foolish , whether this is or is not the intent of the student .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually read TFA, and it states, as the summary quotes, "Apparently, the student violated school policies", but the article doesn't state the policy in question.
It is hard to know if this is a case of stupid overreaction or a real violation of the rules.
Does anyone know the exact wording of this "policy"?
"Under no circumstance shall the student, by action or inaction, directly or indirectly, cause school administration, faculty or staff to appear inept, hysterical or foolish, whether this is or is not the intent of the student.
"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793908</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30798044</id>
	<title>Gatorade bottle</title>
	<author>Skapare</author>
	<datestamp>1263741360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There was no substance inside the Gatorade bottle?  And there are science and technology teachers in this school (or at least there are supposed to be) that could have taken a look at this and immediately figured it out?  How many Gatorade bottles are opaque?  Does this school principal even have any technology and science education?</p><p>I'm just sick of stupidity being attracted to our schools.  We need to educate kids, not dumb them down to the level of school administrators.  We need this especially so in science and technology.  And we need to have the very best quality at our technology magnet schools.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There was no substance inside the Gatorade bottle ?
And there are science and technology teachers in this school ( or at least there are supposed to be ) that could have taken a look at this and immediately figured it out ?
How many Gatorade bottles are opaque ?
Does this school principal even have any technology and science education ? I 'm just sick of stupidity being attracted to our schools .
We need to educate kids , not dumb them down to the level of school administrators .
We need this especially so in science and technology .
And we need to have the very best quality at our technology magnet schools .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There was no substance inside the Gatorade bottle?
And there are science and technology teachers in this school (or at least there are supposed to be) that could have taken a look at this and immediately figured it out?
How many Gatorade bottles are opaque?
Does this school principal even have any technology and science education?I'm just sick of stupidity being attracted to our schools.
We need to educate kids, not dumb them down to the level of school administrators.
We need this especially so in science and technology.
And we need to have the very best quality at our technology magnet schools.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794348</id>
	<title>Re:School policy</title>
	<author>cynyr</author>
	<datestamp>1263645060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cation to all about the link in the above. It will resize your browser window repeatedly if you have javascript and flash enabled. Some warning would have been nice from the parent about that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cation to all about the link in the above .
It will resize your browser window repeatedly if you have javascript and flash enabled .
Some warning would have been nice from the parent about that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cation to all about the link in the above.
It will resize your browser window repeatedly if you have javascript and flash enabled.
Some warning would have been nice from the parent about that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796308</id>
	<title>Re:Administratium is dense</title>
	<author>PMuse</author>
	<datestamp>1263668400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, this is something that happens once in a while when a student turns out to be smarter than teachers expect students to be.  <b>What's sad is that stupidity makes the 5:30PM news</b>, while the thousands of good calls routinely made by other administrators and teachers are never reported.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , this is something that happens once in a while when a student turns out to be smarter than teachers expect students to be .
What 's sad is that stupidity makes the 5 : 30PM news , while the thousands of good calls routinely made by other administrators and teachers are never reported .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, this is something that happens once in a while when a student turns out to be smarter than teachers expect students to be.
What's sad is that stupidity makes the 5:30PM news, while the thousands of good calls routinely made by other administrators and teachers are never reported.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796706</id>
	<title>Electronics = weird and scary</title>
	<author>md65536</author>
	<datestamp>1263719460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cuz like... electronics can explode or something.  Used to be you needed <i>explosive materials</i> to make a bomb, but they miniaturized and modernized and now you can do that with a chip.</p><p>This one time, my son opened up the VCR and I was SHOCKED to see that it was full of bombs!  Just like in 24 or CSI or something.  I called the police on him.</p><p>Anyway the bomb experts say no it wasn't bombs, it was just electronics.  Still.  Pretty scary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cuz like... electronics can explode or something .
Used to be you needed explosive materials to make a bomb , but they miniaturized and modernized and now you can do that with a chip.This one time , my son opened up the VCR and I was SHOCKED to see that it was full of bombs !
Just like in 24 or CSI or something .
I called the police on him.Anyway the bomb experts say no it was n't bombs , it was just electronics .
Still. Pretty scary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cuz like... electronics can explode or something.
Used to be you needed explosive materials to make a bomb, but they miniaturized and modernized and now you can do that with a chip.This one time, my son opened up the VCR and I was SHOCKED to see that it was full of bombs!
Just like in 24 or CSI or something.
I called the police on him.Anyway the bomb experts say no it wasn't bombs, it was just electronics.
Still.  Pretty scary.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793582</id>
	<title>Re:Science fairs before High School....</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1263640200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So they told you that you had a great way to grow marijuana? Thats nice of them. I wonder what experience led them to that idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So they told you that you had a great way to grow marijuana ?
Thats nice of them .
I wonder what experience led them to that idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they told you that you had a great way to grow marijuana?
Thats nice of them.
I wonder what experience led them to that idea.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794570</id>
	<title>US Schools</title>
	<author>phorm</author>
	<datestamp>1263646680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has anyone heard of this sort of thing commonly occurring outside of US schools?<br>I don't want to sound like a self-righteous Canadian, but I've worked in three school districts and I really don't see that kind of fear-of-technology/intelligence happening here. I do see teachers that aren't great with technology, but I haven't met anyone that is outright paranoid like those in these type of stories (which seem to be rather frequent over the last few years).</p><p>So does anyone in Canada/Europe/Australia/Asia/etc have similar stories, or is there something really, really weird with the US Education system?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has anyone heard of this sort of thing commonly occurring outside of US schools ? I do n't want to sound like a self-righteous Canadian , but I 've worked in three school districts and I really do n't see that kind of fear-of-technology/intelligence happening here .
I do see teachers that are n't great with technology , but I have n't met anyone that is outright paranoid like those in these type of stories ( which seem to be rather frequent over the last few years ) .So does anyone in Canada/Europe/Australia/Asia/etc have similar stories , or is there something really , really weird with the US Education system ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has anyone heard of this sort of thing commonly occurring outside of US schools?I don't want to sound like a self-righteous Canadian, but I've worked in three school districts and I really don't see that kind of fear-of-technology/intelligence happening here.
I do see teachers that aren't great with technology, but I haven't met anyone that is outright paranoid like those in these type of stories (which seem to be rather frequent over the last few years).So does anyone in Canada/Europe/Australia/Asia/etc have similar stories, or is there something really, really weird with the US Education system?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795858</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263660780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The kid did violate their policies!  He fabricated!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The kid did violate their policies !
He fabricated !
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The kid did violate their policies!
He fabricated!
:-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794830</id>
	<title>Re:Call themselves teachers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263648840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>Part of the problem here is that an IED can be extremely difficult to identify.</i> </p><p>Yes, but this is a 11-year old's science project in <b>San Diego</b>, not Baghdad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Part of the problem here is that an IED can be extremely difficult to identify .
Yes , but this is a 11-year old 's science project in San Diego , not Baghdad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Part of the problem here is that an IED can be extremely difficult to identify.
Yes, but this is a 11-year old's science project in San Diego, not Baghdad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30798724</id>
	<title>Re:Insane times we live in.</title>
	<author>anyGould</author>
	<datestamp>1263746880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, I'm thinking that if you're going to let him carry a <b>freakin' assault rifle</b> on board the aircraft, the rest of the security inspection is rather pointless.</p><p>I think terrorists are now more likely to dress as a member of the US military, since instead of futzing with MacGyver-reject bombs, you can just.. oh.. <i>shoot the passengers.</i> </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , I 'm thinking that if you 're going to let him carry a freakin ' assault rifle on board the aircraft , the rest of the security inspection is rather pointless.I think terrorists are now more likely to dress as a member of the US military , since instead of futzing with MacGyver-reject bombs , you can just.. oh.. shoot the passengers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, I'm thinking that if you're going to let him carry a freakin' assault rifle on board the aircraft, the rest of the security inspection is rather pointless.I think terrorists are now more likely to dress as a member of the US military, since instead of futzing with MacGyver-reject bombs, you can just.. oh.. shoot the passengers. </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793876</id>
	<title>Wow.  When I was in school, kids made real bombs.</title>
	<author>dr2chase</author>
	<datestamp>1263641880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not very large, but it did make an enormous kaboom, and rendered the locker in which it detonated somewhat egg-shaped.
<br> <br>
And no, it was not me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not very large , but it did make an enormous kaboom , and rendered the locker in which it detonated somewhat egg-shaped .
And no , it was not me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not very large, but it did make an enormous kaboom, and rendered the locker in which it detonated somewhat egg-shaped.
And no, it was not me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793862</id>
	<title>Counseling for the student?</title>
	<author>hAckz0r</author>
	<datestamp>1263641760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>I would recommend sending the uneducated vice-principal back to school</b> to learn what they missed in their own grade school. If a student is that far advanced that the vice-principal (aka. advanced placement teacher) doesn't understand things, then they need to be re-educated to the point of being able to actually teach again. Being an administrator is no excuse, since the path to that position is through a teaching position to begin with. Nobody should be in charge of the teachers at any school that can't do the job themselves. As an administrator, at the very least, the vice-principle should have 'known enough' to call upon the science teachers available at the school to give a proper assessment of the technology/situation, and then acted based on that information, not some uneducated knee-jerk-reaction to something they don't even understand. <p>

Sounds to me like one of those old b-rated Sci-Fi movies:</p><blockquote><div><p> <i> <b>Oh no! It's something too complicated for me to understand!! Run for your life!!!</b> </i></p></div> </blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would recommend sending the uneducated vice-principal back to school to learn what they missed in their own grade school .
If a student is that far advanced that the vice-principal ( aka .
advanced placement teacher ) does n't understand things , then they need to be re-educated to the point of being able to actually teach again .
Being an administrator is no excuse , since the path to that position is through a teaching position to begin with .
Nobody should be in charge of the teachers at any school that ca n't do the job themselves .
As an administrator , at the very least , the vice-principle should have 'known enough ' to call upon the science teachers available at the school to give a proper assessment of the technology/situation , and then acted based on that information , not some uneducated knee-jerk-reaction to something they do n't even understand .
Sounds to me like one of those old b-rated Sci-Fi movies : Oh no !
It 's something too complicated for me to understand ! !
Run for your life ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would recommend sending the uneducated vice-principal back to school to learn what they missed in their own grade school.
If a student is that far advanced that the vice-principal (aka.
advanced placement teacher) doesn't understand things, then they need to be re-educated to the point of being able to actually teach again.
Being an administrator is no excuse, since the path to that position is through a teaching position to begin with.
Nobody should be in charge of the teachers at any school that can't do the job themselves.
As an administrator, at the very least, the vice-principle should have 'known enough' to call upon the science teachers available at the school to give a proper assessment of the technology/situation, and then acted based on that information, not some uneducated knee-jerk-reaction to something they don't even understand.
Sounds to me like one of those old b-rated Sci-Fi movies:  Oh no!
It's something too complicated for me to understand!!
Run for your life!!
!  
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30798140</id>
	<title>What?</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1263742200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In most cases, "Don't make Admin look stupid, especially if they are." is implied policy #0..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In most cases , " Do n't make Admin look stupid , especially if they are .
" is implied policy # 0. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In most cases, "Don't make Admin look stupid, especially if they are.
" is implied policy #0..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793794</id>
	<title>Re:Electronics are scary</title>
	<author>Anne Thwacks</author>
	<datestamp>1263641520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>obviously I couldn't harm anyone with paper and a pencil</i> <p>
No wonder you ended up posting on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. If you were a Ninja, you could
have demolished two blocks quite easily without even sharpening the pencil!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>obviously I could n't harm anyone with paper and a pencil No wonder you ended up posting on / .
If you were a Ninja , you could have demolished two blocks quite easily without even sharpening the pencil !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>obviously I couldn't harm anyone with paper and a pencil 
No wonder you ended up posting on /.
If you were a Ninja, you could
have demolished two blocks quite easily without even sharpening the pencil!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30798668</id>
	<title>Re:Talk about overreacting</title>
	<author>anyGould</author>
	<datestamp>1263746340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Heck, I had a science teacher walk us through making alcohol from fruit once. (In the "purely theoretical" sense, of course).</p><p>Man, I miss those teachers - the ones that realized that just a little forbidden knowledge went a long way into maintaining class interest. (Because who's going to risk skipping class if there's a chance he's gonna teach something *cool*?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Heck , I had a science teacher walk us through making alcohol from fruit once .
( In the " purely theoretical " sense , of course ) .Man , I miss those teachers - the ones that realized that just a little forbidden knowledge went a long way into maintaining class interest .
( Because who 's going to risk skipping class if there 's a chance he 's gon na teach something * cool * ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heck, I had a science teacher walk us through making alcohol from fruit once.
(In the "purely theoretical" sense, of course).Man, I miss those teachers - the ones that realized that just a little forbidden knowledge went a long way into maintaining class interest.
(Because who's going to risk skipping class if there's a chance he's gonna teach something *cool*?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793804</id>
	<title>Re:What if it was really a bomb?</title>
	<author>MBGMorden</author>
	<datestamp>1263641580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I must agree with you.  It's unfortunate that the kid had to go through this, but the reality is that like you said, had it ACTUALLY have been a bomb, Slashdot as a collective whole would have been roasting this guy for how incompetent he was for seeing a bottle with wires and just dismissing it as normal business.</p><p>Reality is - if you're going to bring something like that to school - tell your teacher first.  It's all about context.  If his science fair project (same one) would have showed up on the day of the Science fair when people were expecting it, I'd wager nobody would have cared.</p><p>That's the problem with a precautionary measure though.  The scenarios are: the principal does nothing and it isn't a bomb.  The principal calls in the police and it is a bomb.  The principal calls in the police and it isn't, and the principal does nothing and it is a bomb.  Half of the those actions are going to result in criticism, and that half are linked to opposite choices for the principal.  It's a no-win situation for him.</p><p>I will admit though, things have definitely changed since I was a kid.  I remember kids bringing guns to school (real, actual guns) at least twice.  The gun was confiscated (returned to the parents) and the kid was suspended for 10 days.  That's it.  No media attention, and overall nobody really reacted much.   Heck in high school it wasn't uncommon at all to go out and see a student's pickup with a gun rack + a gun or two hanging on his back window.  Nobody cared - and nobody ever got shot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I must agree with you .
It 's unfortunate that the kid had to go through this , but the reality is that like you said , had it ACTUALLY have been a bomb , Slashdot as a collective whole would have been roasting this guy for how incompetent he was for seeing a bottle with wires and just dismissing it as normal business.Reality is - if you 're going to bring something like that to school - tell your teacher first .
It 's all about context .
If his science fair project ( same one ) would have showed up on the day of the Science fair when people were expecting it , I 'd wager nobody would have cared.That 's the problem with a precautionary measure though .
The scenarios are : the principal does nothing and it is n't a bomb .
The principal calls in the police and it is a bomb .
The principal calls in the police and it is n't , and the principal does nothing and it is a bomb .
Half of the those actions are going to result in criticism , and that half are linked to opposite choices for the principal .
It 's a no-win situation for him.I will admit though , things have definitely changed since I was a kid .
I remember kids bringing guns to school ( real , actual guns ) at least twice .
The gun was confiscated ( returned to the parents ) and the kid was suspended for 10 days .
That 's it .
No media attention , and overall nobody really reacted much .
Heck in high school it was n't uncommon at all to go out and see a student 's pickup with a gun rack + a gun or two hanging on his back window .
Nobody cared - and nobody ever got shot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I must agree with you.
It's unfortunate that the kid had to go through this, but the reality is that like you said, had it ACTUALLY have been a bomb, Slashdot as a collective whole would have been roasting this guy for how incompetent he was for seeing a bottle with wires and just dismissing it as normal business.Reality is - if you're going to bring something like that to school - tell your teacher first.
It's all about context.
If his science fair project (same one) would have showed up on the day of the Science fair when people were expecting it, I'd wager nobody would have cared.That's the problem with a precautionary measure though.
The scenarios are: the principal does nothing and it isn't a bomb.
The principal calls in the police and it is a bomb.
The principal calls in the police and it isn't, and the principal does nothing and it is a bomb.
Half of the those actions are going to result in criticism, and that half are linked to opposite choices for the principal.
It's a no-win situation for him.I will admit though, things have definitely changed since I was a kid.
I remember kids bringing guns to school (real, actual guns) at least twice.
The gun was confiscated (returned to the parents) and the kid was suspended for 10 days.
That's it.
No media attention, and overall nobody really reacted much.
Heck in high school it wasn't uncommon at all to go out and see a student's pickup with a gun rack + a gun or two hanging on his back window.
Nobody cared - and nobody ever got shot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793532</id>
	<title>Re:Apparently, not so much</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1263639840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>The school, which has about 440 students in grades 6 to 8 and <b>emphasizes technology skills</b>, was initially put on lockdown while authorities responded.</i></p><p>...Stu</p></div><p>Apparently they don't emphasise soldering skills. Thats the kind of thing which will be done in China in the future.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The school , which has about 440 students in grades 6 to 8 and emphasizes technology skills , was initially put on lockdown while authorities responded....StuApparently they do n't emphasise soldering skills .
Thats the kind of thing which will be done in China in the future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The school, which has about 440 students in grades 6 to 8 and emphasizes technology skills, was initially put on lockdown while authorities responded....StuApparently they don't emphasise soldering skills.
Thats the kind of thing which will be done in China in the future.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794600</id>
	<title>Re:Call themselves teachers?</title>
	<author>Kenoli</author>
	<datestamp>1263646860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But I can't blame the VP for not realizing it was a joke</p></div><p>A joke? It's not like the kid was pretending it was a bomb. The VP apparently just pulled that idea out of his ass, and instead of doing something reasonable like asking him what it was, he went bananas and starting calling authorities.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But I ca n't blame the VP for not realizing it was a jokeA joke ?
It 's not like the kid was pretending it was a bomb .
The VP apparently just pulled that idea out of his ass , and instead of doing something reasonable like asking him what it was , he went bananas and starting calling authorities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I can't blame the VP for not realizing it was a jokeA joke?
It's not like the kid was pretending it was a bomb.
The VP apparently just pulled that idea out of his ass, and instead of doing something reasonable like asking him what it was, he went bananas and starting calling authorities.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794190</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>jamesh</author>
	<datestamp>1263643980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What's the student supposed to get counseling for?</p></div><p>According to TFA, "The student violated school policies". I can't think what possible school policy it could be unless the device was deliberately designed to look like a bomb, but that would be against the law anyway. Or maybe it was supposed to be a motion sensitive camera to put in the girls changing rooms? He is 11 after all<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>I suspect that the vice-principal went to press the "independent thought alarm" but pressed the security button instead by mistake.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the student supposed to get counseling for ? According to TFA , " The student violated school policies " .
I ca n't think what possible school policy it could be unless the device was deliberately designed to look like a bomb , but that would be against the law anyway .
Or maybe it was supposed to be a motion sensitive camera to put in the girls changing rooms ?
He is 11 after all : ) I suspect that the vice-principal went to press the " independent thought alarm " but pressed the security button instead by mistake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the student supposed to get counseling for?According to TFA, "The student violated school policies".
I can't think what possible school policy it could be unless the device was deliberately designed to look like a bomb, but that would be against the law anyway.
Or maybe it was supposed to be a motion sensitive camera to put in the girls changing rooms?
He is 11 after all :)I suspect that the vice-principal went to press the "independent thought alarm" but pressed the security button instead by mistake.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794638</id>
	<title>Recovering costs</title>
	<author>jmv</author>
	<datestamp>1263647160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Police and fire officials also will not seek to recover costs associated with responding to the incident, the spokesman said.</p></div><p>Translation: We realize we screwed up and don't want to be laughed at in court.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Police and fire officials also will not seek to recover costs associated with responding to the incident , the spokesman said.Translation : We realize we screwed up and do n't want to be laughed at in court .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Police and fire officials also will not seek to recover costs associated with responding to the incident, the spokesman said.Translation: We realize we screwed up and don't want to be laughed at in court.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793362</id>
	<title>Administratium is dense</title>
	<author>johngaunt</author>
	<datestamp>1263638640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is what happens when the students are smarter than the teachers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is what happens when the students are smarter than the teachers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is what happens when the students are smarter than the teachers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30807744</id>
	<title>Re:A day with the vice principal</title>
	<author>bluewolfcub</author>
	<datestamp>1263829140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Given the inclusion of "this begs the question" in his sig, used incorrectly, I'd guess it was meant ironically.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Given the inclusion of " this begs the question " in his sig , used incorrectly , I 'd guess it was meant ironically .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given the inclusion of "this begs the question" in his sig, used incorrectly, I'd guess it was meant ironically.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796218</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30799472</id>
	<title>Re:Administratium is dense</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263753360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is what happens when the students are smarter than the teachers.</p></div><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender\%27s\_Shadow</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is what happens when the students are smarter than the teachers.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender \ % 27s \ _Shadow</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is what happens when the students are smarter than the teachers.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender\%27s\_Shadow
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793362</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793454</id>
	<title>Re:WTF?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263639300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And this is how to terminate a possible promising career in electronics. Seriously, the kid will never be the same. He either won't touch on electronics anymore OR next time the project won't just look like a bomb.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And this is how to terminate a possible promising career in electronics .
Seriously , the kid will never be the same .
He either wo n't touch on electronics anymore OR next time the project wo n't just look like a bomb .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And this is how to terminate a possible promising career in electronics.
Seriously, the kid will never be the same.
He either won't touch on electronics anymore OR next time the project won't just look like a bomb.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30797782</id>
	<title>There will be no charge...</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1263738900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... but will there be excuses ? And indemnities for the violation of privacies (the parents got their garage raided) ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>... but will there be excuses ?
And indemnities for the violation of privacies ( the parents got their garage raided ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... but will there be excuses ?
And indemnities for the violation of privacies (the parents got their garage raided) ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795978</id>
	<title>My God...what as happened to this country?</title>
	<author>ChrisM510</author>
	<datestamp>1263662400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This makes me SICK...absolutey SICK!  There REALLY is no hope for America if THIS is a random sample example of our educators today...  Gee, thanks, Mr. Vice Principal...you may have just scared off another Abert Einstein or Stephen Hawking by your Neanderthal approach to academics...  Life really is survival of the fittest, and I think I hear America's fat lady singing...

Shame on you...</htmltext>
<tokenext>This makes me SICK...absolutey SICK !
There REALLY is no hope for America if THIS is a random sample example of our educators today... Gee , thanks , Mr. Vice Principal...you may have just scared off another Abert Einstein or Stephen Hawking by your Neanderthal approach to academics... Life really is survival of the fittest , and I think I hear America 's fat lady singing.. . Shame on you.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This makes me SICK...absolutey SICK!
There REALLY is no hope for America if THIS is a random sample example of our educators today...  Gee, thanks, Mr. Vice Principal...you may have just scared off another Abert Einstein or Stephen Hawking by your Neanderthal approach to academics...  Life really is survival of the fittest, and I think I hear America's fat lady singing...

Shame on you...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794362</id>
	<title>Re:School policy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263645120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe normal strait wires could be allowed, as (in real films) bombs are always made using wires curled into springs because bomb electricity can't flow through strait wires.<br>But LED's should be totally baned! Ever seen a bomb without flashing LED?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe normal strait wires could be allowed , as ( in real films ) bombs are always made using wires curled into springs because bomb electricity ca n't flow through strait wires.But LED 's should be totally baned !
Ever seen a bomb without flashing LED ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe normal strait wires could be allowed, as (in real films) bombs are always made using wires curled into springs because bomb electricity can't flow through strait wires.But LED's should be totally baned!
Ever seen a bomb without flashing LED?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793764</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793642</id>
	<title>another misleading summary</title>
	<author>Main Gauche</author>
	<datestamp>1263640560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you RTFA, it looks like the cops are saying that they should get counseling because the kid and parents were upset by the incident.</p><p>Regardless of whether the search was reasonable, do you realize how misled you (and many others, including those who've responded to you) have been by the summary's "scare quotes"?  The summary makes it sounds like the kid is being sent in for "reprogramming".</p><p>I'm probably wasting my time typing this, because it won't change anything anyway.  Slashdotters will primarily continue to curse the way the government misleads the citizens, then turn around and fall for this kind of crap.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you RTFA , it looks like the cops are saying that they should get counseling because the kid and parents were upset by the incident.Regardless of whether the search was reasonable , do you realize how misled you ( and many others , including those who 've responded to you ) have been by the summary 's " scare quotes " ?
The summary makes it sounds like the kid is being sent in for " reprogramming " .I 'm probably wasting my time typing this , because it wo n't change anything anyway .
Slashdotters will primarily continue to curse the way the government misleads the citizens , then turn around and fall for this kind of crap .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you RTFA, it looks like the cops are saying that they should get counseling because the kid and parents were upset by the incident.Regardless of whether the search was reasonable, do you realize how misled you (and many others, including those who've responded to you) have been by the summary's "scare quotes"?
The summary makes it sounds like the kid is being sent in for "reprogramming".I'm probably wasting my time typing this, because it won't change anything anyway.
Slashdotters will primarily continue to curse the way the government misleads the citizens, then turn around and fall for this kind of crap.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793824</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>Kell Bengal</author>
	<datestamp>1263641640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Alternatively, he might be the school hero for getting everyone sent home early for the day!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Alternatively , he might be the school hero for getting everyone sent home early for the day !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alternatively, he might be the school hero for getting everyone sent home early for the day!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793602</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795492</id>
	<title>Re:Electronics are scary</title>
	<author>Kyusaku Natsume</author>
	<datestamp>1263656520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My older brother and I used to find in the same bus we ride to go back home from the school a guy who was studying Electronics Engineering. It was really neat to see his protoboard with all those wires and strange -at the time- components. It inspired both of us to study Electronics. If this kid's motion detector really worked, perhaps it could have inspired his friends to study harder an make other interesting projects. Instead, the kids learned that they shouldn't make anything that could inspire irrational fear on adults and to be fearful too.</p><p>Millennial Tech Magnet Middle School motto: working hard to make USA a third world country since xxxx.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My older brother and I used to find in the same bus we ride to go back home from the school a guy who was studying Electronics Engineering .
It was really neat to see his protoboard with all those wires and strange -at the time- components .
It inspired both of us to study Electronics .
If this kid 's motion detector really worked , perhaps it could have inspired his friends to study harder an make other interesting projects .
Instead , the kids learned that they should n't make anything that could inspire irrational fear on adults and to be fearful too.Millennial Tech Magnet Middle School motto : working hard to make USA a third world country since xxxx .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My older brother and I used to find in the same bus we ride to go back home from the school a guy who was studying Electronics Engineering.
It was really neat to see his protoboard with all those wires and strange -at the time- components.
It inspired both of us to study Electronics.
If this kid's motion detector really worked, perhaps it could have inspired his friends to study harder an make other interesting projects.
Instead, the kids learned that they shouldn't make anything that could inspire irrational fear on adults and to be fearful too.Millennial Tech Magnet Middle School motto: working hard to make USA a third world country since xxxx.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793564</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30797558</id>
	<title>Re:Fucked up paranoia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263735840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since it was <i>firemen</i> who searched his home, "fucked up beyond 451" would be more appropriate...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since it was firemen who searched his home , " fucked up beyond 451 " would be more appropriate.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since it was firemen who searched his home, "fucked up beyond 451" would be more appropriate...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793460</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793398</id>
	<title>I love one of the comments...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263639000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>"I don't blame the school...it's the continued pussification of America that is the real problem at hand".

Wish I had said that. WTF is going on with these school admin? Dude is staff a magnet school, got to expect to come across situations like this and be able to deal with it.

I think the school staff needs counseling not the kid and his family.

Pussies.....</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I do n't blame the school...it 's the continued pussification of America that is the real problem at hand " .
Wish I had said that .
WTF is going on with these school admin ?
Dude is staff a magnet school , got to expect to come across situations like this and be able to deal with it .
I think the school staff needs counseling not the kid and his family .
Pussies.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I don't blame the school...it's the continued pussification of America that is the real problem at hand".
Wish I had said that.
WTF is going on with these school admin?
Dude is staff a magnet school, got to expect to come across situations like this and be able to deal with it.
I think the school staff needs counseling not the kid and his family.
Pussies.....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795320</id>
	<title>Motion Detector?</title>
	<author>florescent\_beige</author>
	<datestamp>1263654420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doesn't anyone else wonder how the motion detector works?</p><p>
I'm thinking micro-changes in air density.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't anyone else wonder how the motion detector works ?
I 'm thinking micro-changes in air density .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't anyone else wonder how the motion detector works?
I'm thinking micro-changes in air density.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30799022</id>
	<title>Re:Missing details</title>
	<author>AmonTheMetalhead</author>
	<datestamp>1263749400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't get the councelling bit neighter, the kid was clearly a bright student, and i don't see anything that could warrent councelling for creating something usefull like a motion detector</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get the councelling bit neighter , the kid was clearly a bright student , and i do n't see anything that could warrent councelling for creating something usefull like a motion detector</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get the councelling bit neighter, the kid was clearly a bright student, and i don't see anything that could warrent councelling for creating something usefull like a motion detector</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795466</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793928</id>
	<title>Well, clearly ..</title>
	<author>cheros</author>
	<datestamp>1263642180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.. you need councelling.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p><p>My problem is that I really have to start memorising a new series of words for this sort of crap.  It makes "moron" a compliment, which isn't quite my intention.  Even "room temperature IQ" won't do unless you qualify that that is at the North Pole with the windows open..  Sjeez.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.. you need councelling .
: - ) My problem is that I really have to start memorising a new series of words for this sort of crap .
It makes " moron " a compliment , which is n't quite my intention .
Even " room temperature IQ " wo n't do unless you qualify that that is at the North Pole with the windows open.. Sjeez .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.. you need councelling.
:-)My problem is that I really have to start memorising a new series of words for this sort of crap.
It makes "moron" a compliment, which isn't quite my intention.
Even "room temperature IQ" won't do unless you qualify that that is at the North Pole with the windows open..  Sjeez.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793750</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30798958</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1263748980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He wasn't thinking 'inside the box' and trying to remain within the accepted norm of society. ( just shut up and be a good little citizen )</p><p>We cant have independent thinkers coming out of school can we?</p><p>Idiots.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He was n't thinking 'inside the box ' and trying to remain within the accepted norm of society .
( just shut up and be a good little citizen ) We cant have independent thinkers coming out of school can we ? Idiots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He wasn't thinking 'inside the box' and trying to remain within the accepted norm of society.
( just shut up and be a good little citizen )We cant have independent thinkers coming out of school can we?Idiots.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793332</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793848</id>
	<title>If you REALLY want to let them know what you think</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263641760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's the Contact Us page for Millennial Tech Middle School.</p><p> <a href="http://www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/contact/?rn=8783875" title="mtechmiddle.org">http://www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/contact/?rn=8783875</a> [mtechmiddle.org]</p><p>Maybe if enough people ask, they'll actually tell someone why they have a complete fucking moron in a position of scholastic authority over their kids.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's the Contact Us page for Millennial Tech Middle School .
http : //www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/contact/ ? rn = 8783875 [ mtechmiddle.org ] Maybe if enough people ask , they 'll actually tell someone why they have a complete fucking moron in a position of scholastic authority over their kids .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's the Contact Us page for Millennial Tech Middle School.
http://www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/contact/?rn=8783875 [mtechmiddle.org]Maybe if enough people ask, they'll actually tell someone why they have a complete fucking moron in a position of scholastic authority over their kids.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794478</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>Moridin42</author>
	<datestamp>1263646080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like the "and emphasizes technology skills" bit myself.</p><p>Perhaps a school that seeks to focus on technical skills should hire administrators with same. Ones whose mind will not be blown when, you know, actual technology shows up from its students.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like the " and emphasizes technology skills " bit myself.Perhaps a school that seeks to focus on technical skills should hire administrators with same .
Ones whose mind will not be blown when , you know , actual technology shows up from its students .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like the "and emphasizes technology skills" bit myself.Perhaps a school that seeks to focus on technical skills should hire administrators with same.
Ones whose mind will not be blown when, you know, actual technology shows up from its students.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793758</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794386</id>
	<title>Principal should be fired for stupidity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263645420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a prime example of shifting responsibility or blame. The principal had the opportunity to get an explanation from the student and react rationally. He or she choose to push the panic button to pass off any decision making that could cause questions later by other idiot politically correct over reactionary people. So what do we see after all this? We see the principal do the usual dodge that those in positions of authority always do. He successfully pushed the blame over to this poor 11 year old student for this mess of over reaction the principal actually created. This is so typical of the problems we have today where those in a position of responsibility manage to pass the blame for being stupid onto some poor sap less able to defend themselves. This poor 11yr. old student had no real chance to defend himself from this and and it seems that it was agreed the best way to protect the authority of the school was to blame the kid for everything. It would seem his parents are less than capable in taking on the establishment to right this wrong than you would hope. This would be so wrong if this was a rational world. Unfortunately once again, we see it isn't.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a prime example of shifting responsibility or blame .
The principal had the opportunity to get an explanation from the student and react rationally .
He or she choose to push the panic button to pass off any decision making that could cause questions later by other idiot politically correct over reactionary people .
So what do we see after all this ?
We see the principal do the usual dodge that those in positions of authority always do .
He successfully pushed the blame over to this poor 11 year old student for this mess of over reaction the principal actually created .
This is so typical of the problems we have today where those in a position of responsibility manage to pass the blame for being stupid onto some poor sap less able to defend themselves .
This poor 11yr .
old student had no real chance to defend himself from this and and it seems that it was agreed the best way to protect the authority of the school was to blame the kid for everything .
It would seem his parents are less than capable in taking on the establishment to right this wrong than you would hope .
This would be so wrong if this was a rational world .
Unfortunately once again , we see it is n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a prime example of shifting responsibility or blame.
The principal had the opportunity to get an explanation from the student and react rationally.
He or she choose to push the panic button to pass off any decision making that could cause questions later by other idiot politically correct over reactionary people.
So what do we see after all this?
We see the principal do the usual dodge that those in positions of authority always do.
He successfully pushed the blame over to this poor 11 year old student for this mess of over reaction the principal actually created.
This is so typical of the problems we have today where those in a position of responsibility manage to pass the blame for being stupid onto some poor sap less able to defend themselves.
This poor 11yr.
old student had no real chance to defend himself from this and and it seems that it was agreed the best way to protect the authority of the school was to blame the kid for everything.
It would seem his parents are less than capable in taking on the establishment to right this wrong than you would hope.
This would be so wrong if this was a rational world.
Unfortunately once again, we see it isn't.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793742</id>
	<title>Re:Call themselves teachers?</title>
	<author>v1</author>
	<datestamp>1263641160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The more an expert you are in one area, the lower the odds that you are an expert in an unrelated area.</p><p>School superintendents are (for the most part) some of the most technologically inept people in the building.  They're schooled to manage budgets, staff, student problems, parents, PTAs, school boards, etc, not be geeks.  In high school in speech class we were broken into groups to compose and film skits.  We had to submit our story before we started recording.  The finale' of our skit was a bomb failing to be diffused and blowing up something.</p><p>Me being the geek in the group, I was propmaster for the bomb.  And I did a pretty good job I think.  Looked like a substantial brick of C4 with attached detonator and timer.  The wire was the stereotypical brightly colored curly wires, and the timer was displaying like a clock.  The skit went off very well, but the prop was misplaced after the skit, though we found it shortly later and thought nothing of it.  I only found out some years later where it spent those 10 minutes.</p><p>Attached to a locker beside the main office.  A certain student "planted" it, and just as he was walking away, the vice principal walked out of the office.  To save from being caught, he shouted "omg a bomb!" and ran.  I guess the VP's face turned stone white and he sprinted back into the office.  Thinking smartly, the kid spun around and grabbed the prop and returned it to our class room.  I'm assuming the VP came back out of the office with the rest of the staff (evacuating?) and found no bomb and was left with some egg on his face, but it could have EASILY gotten the school evacuated now that we look back on it.  And this was 19 yrs ago.  Just try to imagine the insanity that would have ensued today?  I'm sure it would have involved the bomb squad and a small detonation in the parking lot.  But I can't blame the VP for not realizing it was a joke, for him everything was stacked pretty well against him.  But a gatorade bottle with a photosensor?  really?</p><p>Part of the problem here is that an IED can be extremely difficult to identify.  Odds are if it <i>looks</i> like a bomb to the layman, it's probably a prop.</p><p>That being said, the last school I worked at, the principal was one of the most tech savvy people in the building short of me, so you can't take anything for granted.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The more an expert you are in one area , the lower the odds that you are an expert in an unrelated area.School superintendents are ( for the most part ) some of the most technologically inept people in the building .
They 're schooled to manage budgets , staff , student problems , parents , PTAs , school boards , etc , not be geeks .
In high school in speech class we were broken into groups to compose and film skits .
We had to submit our story before we started recording .
The finale ' of our skit was a bomb failing to be diffused and blowing up something.Me being the geek in the group , I was propmaster for the bomb .
And I did a pretty good job I think .
Looked like a substantial brick of C4 with attached detonator and timer .
The wire was the stereotypical brightly colored curly wires , and the timer was displaying like a clock .
The skit went off very well , but the prop was misplaced after the skit , though we found it shortly later and thought nothing of it .
I only found out some years later where it spent those 10 minutes.Attached to a locker beside the main office .
A certain student " planted " it , and just as he was walking away , the vice principal walked out of the office .
To save from being caught , he shouted " omg a bomb !
" and ran .
I guess the VP 's face turned stone white and he sprinted back into the office .
Thinking smartly , the kid spun around and grabbed the prop and returned it to our class room .
I 'm assuming the VP came back out of the office with the rest of the staff ( evacuating ?
) and found no bomb and was left with some egg on his face , but it could have EASILY gotten the school evacuated now that we look back on it .
And this was 19 yrs ago .
Just try to imagine the insanity that would have ensued today ?
I 'm sure it would have involved the bomb squad and a small detonation in the parking lot .
But I ca n't blame the VP for not realizing it was a joke , for him everything was stacked pretty well against him .
But a gatorade bottle with a photosensor ?
really ? Part of the problem here is that an IED can be extremely difficult to identify .
Odds are if it looks like a bomb to the layman , it 's probably a prop.That being said , the last school I worked at , the principal was one of the most tech savvy people in the building short of me , so you ca n't take anything for granted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The more an expert you are in one area, the lower the odds that you are an expert in an unrelated area.School superintendents are (for the most part) some of the most technologically inept people in the building.
They're schooled to manage budgets, staff, student problems, parents, PTAs, school boards, etc, not be geeks.
In high school in speech class we were broken into groups to compose and film skits.
We had to submit our story before we started recording.
The finale' of our skit was a bomb failing to be diffused and blowing up something.Me being the geek in the group, I was propmaster for the bomb.
And I did a pretty good job I think.
Looked like a substantial brick of C4 with attached detonator and timer.
The wire was the stereotypical brightly colored curly wires, and the timer was displaying like a clock.
The skit went off very well, but the prop was misplaced after the skit, though we found it shortly later and thought nothing of it.
I only found out some years later where it spent those 10 minutes.Attached to a locker beside the main office.
A certain student "planted" it, and just as he was walking away, the vice principal walked out of the office.
To save from being caught, he shouted "omg a bomb!
" and ran.
I guess the VP's face turned stone white and he sprinted back into the office.
Thinking smartly, the kid spun around and grabbed the prop and returned it to our class room.
I'm assuming the VP came back out of the office with the rest of the staff (evacuating?
) and found no bomb and was left with some egg on his face, but it could have EASILY gotten the school evacuated now that we look back on it.
And this was 19 yrs ago.
Just try to imagine the insanity that would have ensued today?
I'm sure it would have involved the bomb squad and a small detonation in the parking lot.
But I can't blame the VP for not realizing it was a joke, for him everything was stacked pretty well against him.
But a gatorade bottle with a photosensor?
really?Part of the problem here is that an IED can be extremely difficult to identify.
Odds are if it looks like a bomb to the layman, it's probably a prop.That being said, the last school I worked at, the principal was one of the most tech savvy people in the building short of me, so you can't take anything for granted.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Insane times we live in.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263669300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So in one breath he complains about getting the same screening as everyone else, and in the next he tries to argue that nobody should be exempt because terrorists will use that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So in one breath he complains about getting the same screening as everyone else , and in the next he tries to argue that nobody should be exempt because terrorists will use that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So in one breath he complains about getting the same screening as everyone else, and in the next he tries to argue that nobody should be exempt because terrorists will use that?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793564</id>
	<title>Electronics are scary</title>
	<author>chrysrobyn</author>
	<datestamp>1263640080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I was in college, I would periodically bring my electronics homework home from Albany to Phoenix.  I would usually work on it the entire time tray tables were allowed.  Often I didn't need a textbook, only my engineering paper (overpriced graph paper) and my calculator.  I would often make those next to me nervous, but obviously I couldn't harm anyone with paper and a pencil.  Well, significantly anyway.</p><p>As I got to the intermediate classes, I would often find myself with schematics, a bag of chips and wires, and a breadboard.  Again, plenty of time to just sit there, I would wire up my breadboard with the chips, wires, and my Leatherman.  I had more than a few flight attendants strike up a conversation with me long enough to find out that I was going home / to school, was an engineering student, and was working on a finite state machine / simple computer / complicated blinky light thing.  "Wanna see?  This is so cool!  Watch these eight lights blink!  I can program it with these switches!"  The only time the conversation lasted even a sentence longer was when I was building laser tag.  "No, it doesn't actually have any lasers, they just use that name because it sounds cool.  It actually works like your remote control to your TV."</p><p>Even at the time, I was fully aware that any technical work done in a public place would draw the skepticism, imagination, and periodically, fear of those around me.  Of course, this was in the mid 90's.  Times and personal liberties on airplanes in particular are very different.  Now, they'd throw a fit if I tried to take my Leatherman near the plane, let alone the chips and bundle of wires running off a 9 volt.  I'm much more mature now, and now I see no reason to make people uncomfortable on an airplane in order to stretch their preconceptions.</p><p>The kid and his parents now learned a valuable lesson.  Work transparently.  Don't hide it in a bottle.  When it's complete, more times than not, it shouldn't have a top case.  If it needs a case, no external wires should be visible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was in college , I would periodically bring my electronics homework home from Albany to Phoenix .
I would usually work on it the entire time tray tables were allowed .
Often I did n't need a textbook , only my engineering paper ( overpriced graph paper ) and my calculator .
I would often make those next to me nervous , but obviously I could n't harm anyone with paper and a pencil .
Well , significantly anyway.As I got to the intermediate classes , I would often find myself with schematics , a bag of chips and wires , and a breadboard .
Again , plenty of time to just sit there , I would wire up my breadboard with the chips , wires , and my Leatherman .
I had more than a few flight attendants strike up a conversation with me long enough to find out that I was going home / to school , was an engineering student , and was working on a finite state machine / simple computer / complicated blinky light thing .
" Wan na see ?
This is so cool !
Watch these eight lights blink !
I can program it with these switches !
" The only time the conversation lasted even a sentence longer was when I was building laser tag .
" No , it does n't actually have any lasers , they just use that name because it sounds cool .
It actually works like your remote control to your TV .
" Even at the time , I was fully aware that any technical work done in a public place would draw the skepticism , imagination , and periodically , fear of those around me .
Of course , this was in the mid 90 's .
Times and personal liberties on airplanes in particular are very different .
Now , they 'd throw a fit if I tried to take my Leatherman near the plane , let alone the chips and bundle of wires running off a 9 volt .
I 'm much more mature now , and now I see no reason to make people uncomfortable on an airplane in order to stretch their preconceptions.The kid and his parents now learned a valuable lesson .
Work transparently .
Do n't hide it in a bottle .
When it 's complete , more times than not , it should n't have a top case .
If it needs a case , no external wires should be visible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was in college, I would periodically bring my electronics homework home from Albany to Phoenix.
I would usually work on it the entire time tray tables were allowed.
Often I didn't need a textbook, only my engineering paper (overpriced graph paper) and my calculator.
I would often make those next to me nervous, but obviously I couldn't harm anyone with paper and a pencil.
Well, significantly anyway.As I got to the intermediate classes, I would often find myself with schematics, a bag of chips and wires, and a breadboard.
Again, plenty of time to just sit there, I would wire up my breadboard with the chips, wires, and my Leatherman.
I had more than a few flight attendants strike up a conversation with me long enough to find out that I was going home / to school, was an engineering student, and was working on a finite state machine / simple computer / complicated blinky light thing.
"Wanna see?
This is so cool!
Watch these eight lights blink!
I can program it with these switches!
"  The only time the conversation lasted even a sentence longer was when I was building laser tag.
"No, it doesn't actually have any lasers, they just use that name because it sounds cool.
It actually works like your remote control to your TV.
"Even at the time, I was fully aware that any technical work done in a public place would draw the skepticism, imagination, and periodically, fear of those around me.
Of course, this was in the mid 90's.
Times and personal liberties on airplanes in particular are very different.
Now, they'd throw a fit if I tried to take my Leatherman near the plane, let alone the chips and bundle of wires running off a 9 volt.
I'm much more mature now, and now I see no reason to make people uncomfortable on an airplane in order to stretch their preconceptions.The kid and his parents now learned a valuable lesson.
Work transparently.
Don't hide it in a bottle.
When it's complete, more times than not, it shouldn't have a top case.
If it needs a case, no external wires should be visible.</sentencetext>
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	<title>the kid doesn't need counselling</title>
	<author>alizard</author>
	<datestamp>1263651960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext>he and his family need to move to a country that values science over superstition and is in general, more sanely run than the USA.
<br> <br>
The principal and vice-principal of this allegedly "technical" high school should be fired and blacklisted, of course, but they'll probably get promoted instead.</htmltext>
<tokenext>he and his family need to move to a country that values science over superstition and is in general , more sanely run than the USA .
The principal and vice-principal of this allegedly " technical " high school should be fired and blacklisted , of course , but they 'll probably get promoted instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>he and his family need to move to a country that values science over superstition and is in general, more sanely run than the USA.
The principal and vice-principal of this allegedly "technical" high school should be fired and blacklisted, of course, but they'll probably get promoted instead.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Give the schools more money</title>
	<author>Kohath</author>
	<datestamp>1263639960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're doing such a great job.  They deserve a reward.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're doing such a great job .
They deserve a reward .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're doing such a great job.
They deserve a reward.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:If you REALLY want to let them know what you th</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263732840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, let me get this straight... The administrator is an idiot for excercising (a bit much) caution when it comes to the safety of a school full of children... and you (and many above you) post libelous and fundamentally un-researched accusations about the person responsible for the safety of the children in question... then provide a link so the libeled admin can see the libelous messages you've all posted?  Bright... you must be victims of the conspiracy being illustrated above pertaining to kids growing up not being able to learn anything.</p><p>That stated for the record, I fundamentally agree that the educational *system* no longer cares about educating children, only about justifying the continued funding which keeps getting cut back.  The standardized testing in place to report academic progress of a "body of students" determines how much funding the school gets from the government.  Without the funding, the school cannot operate and has to close its doors. The schools are governmentally mandated through this process to teach students to pass the tests, not to love learning, not to be curious, not to explore the world (individual teachers do that, the actual educational foot soldiers as it were, not the generals).</p><p>As few years ago as the 80s, we were still pranking our classmates by spreading NI3 around the room (mild contact explosive which snapped if percussed even slightly)... and the teacher was showing us how.  I could buy most chemicals necessary to make just about anything at the local hobby store in the chemistry section.  The nation was great and the next generation was being trained to be thinkers and keep us moving forward on the front end of technology.  The 70s had been a time of democratizing science... now, the geeks are unfriendly and unwelcoming (read the comments above) as the internet has allowed them to stay sheltered and not necessitated learning to use interpersonal communication skills or tact.</p><p>More time teaching ethics to the youth may allow us to undo some of the damage done, allowing more time to let children explore the world.  Unfortunately, until the goverment allows education to educate, the US will eventually realize Mike Judges vision of the future in \_Idiocracy\_ - sad, sad days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , let me get this straight... The administrator is an idiot for excercising ( a bit much ) caution when it comes to the safety of a school full of children... and you ( and many above you ) post libelous and fundamentally un-researched accusations about the person responsible for the safety of the children in question... then provide a link so the libeled admin can see the libelous messages you 've all posted ?
Bright... you must be victims of the conspiracy being illustrated above pertaining to kids growing up not being able to learn anything.That stated for the record , I fundamentally agree that the educational * system * no longer cares about educating children , only about justifying the continued funding which keeps getting cut back .
The standardized testing in place to report academic progress of a " body of students " determines how much funding the school gets from the government .
Without the funding , the school can not operate and has to close its doors .
The schools are governmentally mandated through this process to teach students to pass the tests , not to love learning , not to be curious , not to explore the world ( individual teachers do that , the actual educational foot soldiers as it were , not the generals ) .As few years ago as the 80s , we were still pranking our classmates by spreading NI3 around the room ( mild contact explosive which snapped if percussed even slightly ) ... and the teacher was showing us how .
I could buy most chemicals necessary to make just about anything at the local hobby store in the chemistry section .
The nation was great and the next generation was being trained to be thinkers and keep us moving forward on the front end of technology .
The 70s had been a time of democratizing science... now , the geeks are unfriendly and unwelcoming ( read the comments above ) as the internet has allowed them to stay sheltered and not necessitated learning to use interpersonal communication skills or tact.More time teaching ethics to the youth may allow us to undo some of the damage done , allowing more time to let children explore the world .
Unfortunately , until the goverment allows education to educate , the US will eventually realize Mike Judges vision of the future in \ _Idiocracy \ _ - sad , sad days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, let me get this straight... The administrator is an idiot for excercising (a bit much) caution when it comes to the safety of a school full of children... and you (and many above you) post libelous and fundamentally un-researched accusations about the person responsible for the safety of the children in question... then provide a link so the libeled admin can see the libelous messages you've all posted?
Bright... you must be victims of the conspiracy being illustrated above pertaining to kids growing up not being able to learn anything.That stated for the record, I fundamentally agree that the educational *system* no longer cares about educating children, only about justifying the continued funding which keeps getting cut back.
The standardized testing in place to report academic progress of a "body of students" determines how much funding the school gets from the government.
Without the funding, the school cannot operate and has to close its doors.
The schools are governmentally mandated through this process to teach students to pass the tests, not to love learning, not to be curious, not to explore the world (individual teachers do that, the actual educational foot soldiers as it were, not the generals).As few years ago as the 80s, we were still pranking our classmates by spreading NI3 around the room (mild contact explosive which snapped if percussed even slightly)... and the teacher was showing us how.
I could buy most chemicals necessary to make just about anything at the local hobby store in the chemistry section.
The nation was great and the next generation was being trained to be thinkers and keep us moving forward on the front end of technology.
The 70s had been a time of democratizing science... now, the geeks are unfriendly and unwelcoming (read the comments above) as the internet has allowed them to stay sheltered and not necessitated learning to use interpersonal communication skills or tact.More time teaching ethics to the youth may allow us to undo some of the damage done, allowing more time to let children explore the world.
Unfortunately, until the goverment allows education to educate, the US will eventually realize Mike Judges vision of the future in \_Idiocracy\_ - sad, sad days.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Oh God! He's going to do SCIENCE!</title>
	<author>Bysshe</author>
	<datestamp>1263647820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#StandBackScience" title="xkcd.com" rel="nofollow">Stand Back... I'm going to try SCIENCE!"</a> [xkcd.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Stand Back... I 'm going to try SCIENCE !
" [ xkcd.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stand Back... I'm going to try SCIENCE!
" [xkcd.com]</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:What if it was really a bomb?</title>
	<author>letsief</author>
	<datestamp>1263641340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's why I think people shouldn't criticize the vice principal too much for calling authorities to look into this.  He wouldn't have done so unless he thought there was a reasonable chance that this thing was a bomb.  Maybe he should have known better, but he didn't, and I'm not going to fault him for erring on the side of caution. But, I am troubled that the school and authorities seem to be blaming the kid and parents for this, like they should have known better than to bring a geeky home project to a *technology magnet school*.  I would consider this a non-story if the school, vice principal, and authorities showed a little embarrassment over this situation, but they really seem to think this family did something horribly wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's why I think people should n't criticize the vice principal too much for calling authorities to look into this .
He would n't have done so unless he thought there was a reasonable chance that this thing was a bomb .
Maybe he should have known better , but he did n't , and I 'm not going to fault him for erring on the side of caution .
But , I am troubled that the school and authorities seem to be blaming the kid and parents for this , like they should have known better than to bring a geeky home project to a * technology magnet school * .
I would consider this a non-story if the school , vice principal , and authorities showed a little embarrassment over this situation , but they really seem to think this family did something horribly wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's why I think people shouldn't criticize the vice principal too much for calling authorities to look into this.
He wouldn't have done so unless he thought there was a reasonable chance that this thing was a bomb.
Maybe he should have known better, but he didn't, and I'm not going to fault him for erring on the side of caution.
But, I am troubled that the school and authorities seem to be blaming the kid and parents for this, like they should have known better than to bring a geeky home project to a *technology magnet school*.
I would consider this a non-story if the school, vice principal, and authorities showed a little embarrassment over this situation, but they really seem to think this family did something horribly wrong.</sentencetext>
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	<title>meanwhile...</title>
	<author>binaryseraph</author>
	<datestamp>1263641220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The kid who made the explosive with baking soda and vinegar (or water and dry ice) is getting an A+.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The kid who made the explosive with baking soda and vinegar ( or water and dry ice ) is getting an A + .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The kid who made the explosive with baking soda and vinegar (or water and dry ice) is getting an A+.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Article missing a critical detail.</title>
	<author>Lorens</author>
	<datestamp>1263646320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure. I'll save you the read: there is nothing relevant in there.</p><p><a href="http://www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC\_ID=58810&amp;type=d&amp;termREC\_ID=&amp;pREC\_ID=87933&amp;hideMenu=1&amp;rn=6634111" title="mtechmiddle.org">http://www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC\_ID=58810&amp;type=d&amp;termREC\_ID=&amp;pREC\_ID=87933&amp;hideMenu=1&amp;rn=6634111</a> [mtechmiddle.org]</p><p>Their About Us/Mission and Vision Statement is a gas, though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure .
I 'll save you the read : there is nothing relevant in there.http : //www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/pages/index.jsp ? uREC \ _ID = 58810&amp;type = d&amp;termREC \ _ID = &amp;pREC \ _ID = 87933&amp;hideMenu = 1&amp;rn = 6634111 [ mtechmiddle.org ] Their About Us/Mission and Vision Statement is a gas , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure.
I'll save you the read: there is nothing relevant in there.http://www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC\_ID=58810&amp;type=d&amp;termREC\_ID=&amp;pREC\_ID=87933&amp;hideMenu=1&amp;rn=6634111 [mtechmiddle.org]Their About Us/Mission and Vision Statement is a gas, though.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Why bother?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263641820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why even bother having the science fair if projects are going to get that kind of reaction?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why even bother having the science fair if projects are going to get that kind of reaction ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why even bother having the science fair if projects are going to get that kind of reaction?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>damburger</author>
	<datestamp>1263644280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The student is to be counseled on what behavior is not going to upset the absurd and bloated systems that infest western institutions (public and private) like cancer.I know each generation thinks it is witnessing the Big Decline but I can point to actual problems rather than just a vague sense of social dread. I've already posted some of them in this thread, but to summarize; the attempt to use the power of the 'Invisible Hand' to bring all sectors of society the kind of roaring success we have seen in the sub-prime mortgage market. If this were a single, aborted experiment it wouldn't be so bad - but its become an unfalsifiable, almost religious dogma that is applied over and over again regardless of its previous failure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The student is to be counseled on what behavior is not going to upset the absurd and bloated systems that infest western institutions ( public and private ) like cancer.I know each generation thinks it is witnessing the Big Decline but I can point to actual problems rather than just a vague sense of social dread .
I 've already posted some of them in this thread , but to summarize ; the attempt to use the power of the 'Invisible Hand ' to bring all sectors of society the kind of roaring success we have seen in the sub-prime mortgage market .
If this were a single , aborted experiment it would n't be so bad - but its become an unfalsifiable , almost religious dogma that is applied over and over again regardless of its previous failure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The student is to be counseled on what behavior is not going to upset the absurd and bloated systems that infest western institutions (public and private) like cancer.I know each generation thinks it is witnessing the Big Decline but I can point to actual problems rather than just a vague sense of social dread.
I've already posted some of them in this thread, but to summarize; the attempt to use the power of the 'Invisible Hand' to bring all sectors of society the kind of roaring success we have seen in the sub-prime mortgage market.
If this were a single, aborted experiment it wouldn't be so bad - but its become an unfalsifiable, almost religious dogma that is applied over and over again regardless of its previous failure.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30802022</id>
	<title>Re:Protest To The School</title>
	<author>SpaceCadets</author>
	<datestamp>1263728520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I simply sent them a message linking this story, with Attn: PR Department.  Simple, doubt it will be effective.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I simply sent them a message linking this story , with Attn : PR Department .
Simple , doubt it will be effective .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I simply sent them a message linking this story, with Attn: PR Department.
Simple, doubt it will be effective.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796842</id>
	<title>Re:Apparently, not so much</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263722160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796218</id>
	<title>Re:A day with the vice principal</title>
	<author>LarryWake</author>
	<datestamp>1263666660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OT: in your sig, were you using "for all intensive purposes" sarcastically as commentary on the decay of grammar in today's society?  If so, carry on, but if not, please be aware that the actual phrase is "for all intents and purposes."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OT : in your sig , were you using " for all intensive purposes " sarcastically as commentary on the decay of grammar in today 's society ?
If so , carry on , but if not , please be aware that the actual phrase is " for all intents and purposes .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OT: in your sig, were you using "for all intensive purposes" sarcastically as commentary on the decay of grammar in today's society?
If so, carry on, but if not, please be aware that the actual phrase is "for all intents and purposes.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793728</id>
	<title>Re:another misleading summary</title>
	<author>letsief</author>
	<datestamp>1263641040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree it's sort of hard to know one way or the other, but I think the author of the article is implying the student and parents need counseling so this sort of thing doesn't happen again.  The article's statement about counseling was stated right after it discussed the fire officials searching the home for explosives.  And, it was in the same paragraph that said the student wasn't going to be prosecuted, but violated school policies.  The article does talk about the student and parents being upset, but that's a little later in the article.</p><p>Maybe the author of the article is misleading us, but (somewhat uncharacteristically) Slashdot's summary seems to be pretty accurate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree it 's sort of hard to know one way or the other , but I think the author of the article is implying the student and parents need counseling so this sort of thing does n't happen again .
The article 's statement about counseling was stated right after it discussed the fire officials searching the home for explosives .
And , it was in the same paragraph that said the student was n't going to be prosecuted , but violated school policies .
The article does talk about the student and parents being upset , but that 's a little later in the article.Maybe the author of the article is misleading us , but ( somewhat uncharacteristically ) Slashdot 's summary seems to be pretty accurate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree it's sort of hard to know one way or the other, but I think the author of the article is implying the student and parents need counseling so this sort of thing doesn't happen again.
The article's statement about counseling was stated right after it discussed the fire officials searching the home for explosives.
And, it was in the same paragraph that said the student wasn't going to be prosecuted, but violated school policies.
The article does talk about the student and parents being upset, but that's a little later in the article.Maybe the author of the article is misleading us, but (somewhat uncharacteristically) Slashdot's summary seems to be pretty accurate.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30813902</id>
	<title>Re:If you REALLY want to let them know what you th</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263815760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks for the link. I sent them this letter. Maybe not the most eloquent ever written, but something must be better than nothing.</p><p>Hi,</p><p>I read recently in the San Diego Union Tribune about the lock down and evacuation of Millennial Tech Middle School over the motion detection science project brought in by one of the students. I am deeply concerned about these events. We should be encouraging this type of self-motivated learning in our children, not stifling it with fear mongering.</p><p>A simple interview with the student in question should have been enough to diffuse the situation before such extreme measures even needed to be considered. The lack of such a rapport with the students speaks volumes about the character of the vice principle who's first reaction was to call police.</p><p>In addition to these unfortunate events, the school seems to be unapologetic towards the student in concern, even suggesting that he had violated a school policy. Please indicate to me which section of the school policy the student has violated? Below is the link to the school policy.</p><p>http://www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC\_ID=58810&amp;type=d&amp;termREC\_ID=&amp;pREC\_ID=87933&amp;hideMenu=1&amp;rn=8708720</p><p>At the very least the school owes a public apology to this student, his family, and the other families affected by this unfortunate incident.</p><p>Please take a moment to reflect on the wider impacts of such reactions on our society in general. What sort of brilliant minds are we stifling with this sort of behavior?</p><p>Sincerely,<br>A very concerned citizen</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks for the link .
I sent them this letter .
Maybe not the most eloquent ever written , but something must be better than nothing.Hi,I read recently in the San Diego Union Tribune about the lock down and evacuation of Millennial Tech Middle School over the motion detection science project brought in by one of the students .
I am deeply concerned about these events .
We should be encouraging this type of self-motivated learning in our children , not stifling it with fear mongering.A simple interview with the student in question should have been enough to diffuse the situation before such extreme measures even needed to be considered .
The lack of such a rapport with the students speaks volumes about the character of the vice principle who 's first reaction was to call police.In addition to these unfortunate events , the school seems to be unapologetic towards the student in concern , even suggesting that he had violated a school policy .
Please indicate to me which section of the school policy the student has violated ?
Below is the link to the school policy.http : //www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/pages/index.jsp ? uREC \ _ID = 58810&amp;type = d&amp;termREC \ _ID = &amp;pREC \ _ID = 87933&amp;hideMenu = 1&amp;rn = 8708720At the very least the school owes a public apology to this student , his family , and the other families affected by this unfortunate incident.Please take a moment to reflect on the wider impacts of such reactions on our society in general .
What sort of brilliant minds are we stifling with this sort of behavior ? Sincerely,A very concerned citizen</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks for the link.
I sent them this letter.
Maybe not the most eloquent ever written, but something must be better than nothing.Hi,I read recently in the San Diego Union Tribune about the lock down and evacuation of Millennial Tech Middle School over the motion detection science project brought in by one of the students.
I am deeply concerned about these events.
We should be encouraging this type of self-motivated learning in our children, not stifling it with fear mongering.A simple interview with the student in question should have been enough to diffuse the situation before such extreme measures even needed to be considered.
The lack of such a rapport with the students speaks volumes about the character of the vice principle who's first reaction was to call police.In addition to these unfortunate events, the school seems to be unapologetic towards the student in concern, even suggesting that he had violated a school policy.
Please indicate to me which section of the school policy the student has violated?
Below is the link to the school policy.http://www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC\_ID=58810&amp;type=d&amp;termREC\_ID=&amp;pREC\_ID=87933&amp;hideMenu=1&amp;rn=8708720At the very least the school owes a public apology to this student, his family, and the other families affected by this unfortunate incident.Please take a moment to reflect on the wider impacts of such reactions on our society in general.
What sort of brilliant minds are we stifling with this sort of behavior?Sincerely,A very concerned citizen</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793714</id>
	<title>Get Counsel rather than Counseling.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263640980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In order to sue the fuck out of those idiots, I mean.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In order to sue the fuck out of those idiots , I mean .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In order to sue the fuck out of those idiots, I mean.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795830</id>
	<title>Similar thing happened to me...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263660180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Back in early high school (2002 maybe?) I almost got suspended for something similar.  I had built some sort of analog-based electronic musical instrument on a breadboard for a class.</p><p>During the early stages of construction I put a small electrolytic cap on backwards.  A few minutes after hooking everything up the capacitor blew with a loud snap.  They thought I had built a bomb and questioned if I had used gunpowder and explosives and all kinds of crap.  In the end nothing came of it, but I spent a few days in the principal's office and for after-school counseling (which I remember more as after-school interrogation to get me to say I had used gunpowder).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Back in early high school ( 2002 maybe ?
) I almost got suspended for something similar .
I had built some sort of analog-based electronic musical instrument on a breadboard for a class.During the early stages of construction I put a small electrolytic cap on backwards .
A few minutes after hooking everything up the capacitor blew with a loud snap .
They thought I had built a bomb and questioned if I had used gunpowder and explosives and all kinds of crap .
In the end nothing came of it , but I spent a few days in the principal 's office and for after-school counseling ( which I remember more as after-school interrogation to get me to say I had used gunpowder ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Back in early high school (2002 maybe?
) I almost got suspended for something similar.
I had built some sort of analog-based electronic musical instrument on a breadboard for a class.During the early stages of construction I put a small electrolytic cap on backwards.
A few minutes after hooking everything up the capacitor blew with a loud snap.
They thought I had built a bomb and questioned if I had used gunpowder and explosives and all kinds of crap.
In the end nothing came of it, but I spent a few days in the principal's office and for after-school counseling (which I remember more as after-school interrogation to get me to say I had used gunpowder).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796702</id>
	<title>Re:This really takes the cake</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263719400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>now it's the country that is afraid to get out of bed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>now it 's the country that is afraid to get out of bed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>now it's the country that is afraid to get out of bed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30802248</id>
	<title>Only in America</title>
	<author>Cyko\_01</author>
	<datestamp>1263730020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>a <a href="http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2007-03/popsci-videoteen-builds-basement-nuclear-reactor" title="popsci.com" rel="nofollow">15yo builds a nuclear reactor</a> [popsci.com] in his basement and nobody stops him. But you bring a harmless bottle with some wires in it to school and they lock down the school for a day and force the kid to go to counselling?!<br>
<br>
The terrorists have US citizens cowering in fear. They have already won.</htmltext>
<tokenext>a 15yo builds a nuclear reactor [ popsci.com ] in his basement and nobody stops him .
But you bring a harmless bottle with some wires in it to school and they lock down the school for a day and force the kid to go to counselling ? !
The terrorists have US citizens cowering in fear .
They have already won .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a 15yo builds a nuclear reactor [popsci.com] in his basement and nobody stops him.
But you bring a harmless bottle with some wires in it to school and they lock down the school for a day and force the kid to go to counselling?!
The terrorists have US citizens cowering in fear.
They have already won.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794206</id>
	<title>Re:Call themselves teachers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263644100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Teachers' Unions. Seriously, give them a google and discover just how hard it is to fire a teacher/administrator.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Teachers ' Unions .
Seriously , give them a google and discover just how hard it is to fire a teacher/administrator .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Teachers' Unions.
Seriously, give them a google and discover just how hard it is to fire a teacher/administrator.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795798</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263659640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe the kid looked arab....
Seriously, whatever the whole story, this admin was acting nuts.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe the kid looked arab... . Seriously , whatever the whole story , this admin was acting nuts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe the kid looked arab....
Seriously, whatever the whole story, this admin was acting nuts.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795004</id>
	<title>Re:Science fairs before High School....</title>
	<author>deniable</author>
	<datestamp>1263650820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Kid gets busted as a grower later in life. "My teachers suggested it." Career counseling?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kid gets busted as a grower later in life .
" My teachers suggested it .
" Career counseling ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kid gets busted as a grower later in life.
"My teachers suggested it.
" Career counseling?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793734</id>
	<title>TFA sucks</title>
	<author>shadowrat</author>
	<datestamp>1263641100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>TFA leaves me with a ton of questions. Wouldn't his teacher have known of this project (assuming that science projects are for school)? I don't recall getting the assignment, "Make a science project", in school. My teachers always checked in every step of the way.
<br>
Why did they think it was a bomb? Did the kid deny it was a bomb? I usually don't think of 11 year olds as making explosives with complicated electronic detonators. Did the kid claim it was a bomb jokingly or just to be difficult?
<br>
What is the counseling recommended for? Is it because the kid and family are upset that all this happened (understandable) or because he's a troublemaker/prankster kid who's causing problems?</htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA leaves me with a ton of questions .
Would n't his teacher have known of this project ( assuming that science projects are for school ) ?
I do n't recall getting the assignment , " Make a science project " , in school .
My teachers always checked in every step of the way .
Why did they think it was a bomb ?
Did the kid deny it was a bomb ?
I usually do n't think of 11 year olds as making explosives with complicated electronic detonators .
Did the kid claim it was a bomb jokingly or just to be difficult ?
What is the counseling recommended for ?
Is it because the kid and family are upset that all this happened ( understandable ) or because he 's a troublemaker/prankster kid who 's causing problems ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA leaves me with a ton of questions.
Wouldn't his teacher have known of this project (assuming that science projects are for school)?
I don't recall getting the assignment, "Make a science project", in school.
My teachers always checked in every step of the way.
Why did they think it was a bomb?
Did the kid deny it was a bomb?
I usually don't think of 11 year olds as making explosives with complicated electronic detonators.
Did the kid claim it was a bomb jokingly or just to be difficult?
What is the counseling recommended for?
Is it because the kid and family are upset that all this happened (understandable) or because he's a troublemaker/prankster kid who's causing problems?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793972</id>
	<title>Re:WTF?</title>
	<author>Draek</author>
	<datestamp>1263642480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given how 'cooperative' his parents were with the authorities, most likely. Pity, though, few have such enthusiasm so young.</p><p>If such a thing had happened to me, my parents would've been in school the next morning to demand a public apology from both the school and the vice-principal himself, as well as any required paperwork necessary to transfer me to another school.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given how 'cooperative ' his parents were with the authorities , most likely .
Pity , though , few have such enthusiasm so young.If such a thing had happened to me , my parents would 've been in school the next morning to demand a public apology from both the school and the vice-principal himself , as well as any required paperwork necessary to transfer me to another school .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given how 'cooperative' his parents were with the authorities, most likely.
Pity, though, few have such enthusiasm so young.If such a thing had happened to me, my parents would've been in school the next morning to demand a public apology from both the school and the vice-principal himself, as well as any required paperwork necessary to transfer me to another school.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30826604</id>
	<title>grandparent sig</title>
	<author>McFly777</author>
	<datestamp>1263905820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>His sig has to be one of the best I have seen. I have almost been caught by it on several occasions, but in each case I realized it was meant to be humor just before I clicked Reply.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>His sig has to be one of the best I have seen .
I have almost been caught by it on several occasions , but in each case I realized it was meant to be humor just before I clicked Reply .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>His sig has to be one of the best I have seen.
I have almost been caught by it on several occasions, but in each case I realized it was meant to be humor just before I clicked Reply.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796904</id>
	<title>This IS a tech school, right?</title>
	<author>Restil</author>
	<datestamp>1263723480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I understand the issues at hande, I would expect your garden variety administrator might not be able to differentiate between a motion sensor and a bomb.  The general masses don't always have a firm grasp on technology.  I deal with this all the time.  A person has no problem believing that there is this huge network, with millions, even billions of computers that spans the entire planet, connected by  copper wires, fiber optics, and even satellite. This amazingly complex contraption can allow them to hold a live conversation with both audio and video with a person on the other side of the planet, and it won't cost them a thing.  They download a whole CD of music or a movie in a matter of minutes.  All of this is easily believable.  However, a computer controlled lightswitch is CLEARLY fake, as there's NO possible way to do that.</p><p>I don't doubt that your average school administrator might suffer from the same technological myopia.  They know what a stereo, TV , computer, flashlight, and cellphone look like.  But get outside of that comfort zone and present them with an uncovered circuit board and some loose wires....  well..  that looks like a bomb, and they will react accordingly.  This in and of itself is not surprising.  What IS surprising is the fact that we're talking about a tech school here.  You would assume that the bar would be set slightly higher in this circumstance.  Enough to assume that those who teach and administrate at the school had at least an introductory electronics course at SOME point.  One would assume anyway.</p><p>-Restil</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I understand the issues at hande , I would expect your garden variety administrator might not be able to differentiate between a motion sensor and a bomb .
The general masses do n't always have a firm grasp on technology .
I deal with this all the time .
A person has no problem believing that there is this huge network , with millions , even billions of computers that spans the entire planet , connected by copper wires , fiber optics , and even satellite .
This amazingly complex contraption can allow them to hold a live conversation with both audio and video with a person on the other side of the planet , and it wo n't cost them a thing .
They download a whole CD of music or a movie in a matter of minutes .
All of this is easily believable .
However , a computer controlled lightswitch is CLEARLY fake , as there 's NO possible way to do that.I do n't doubt that your average school administrator might suffer from the same technological myopia .
They know what a stereo , TV , computer , flashlight , and cellphone look like .
But get outside of that comfort zone and present them with an uncovered circuit board and some loose wires.... well.. that looks like a bomb , and they will react accordingly .
This in and of itself is not surprising .
What IS surprising is the fact that we 're talking about a tech school here .
You would assume that the bar would be set slightly higher in this circumstance .
Enough to assume that those who teach and administrate at the school had at least an introductory electronics course at SOME point .
One would assume anyway.-Restil</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I understand the issues at hande, I would expect your garden variety administrator might not be able to differentiate between a motion sensor and a bomb.
The general masses don't always have a firm grasp on technology.
I deal with this all the time.
A person has no problem believing that there is this huge network, with millions, even billions of computers that spans the entire planet, connected by  copper wires, fiber optics, and even satellite.
This amazingly complex contraption can allow them to hold a live conversation with both audio and video with a person on the other side of the planet, and it won't cost them a thing.
They download a whole CD of music or a movie in a matter of minutes.
All of this is easily believable.
However, a computer controlled lightswitch is CLEARLY fake, as there's NO possible way to do that.I don't doubt that your average school administrator might suffer from the same technological myopia.
They know what a stereo, TV , computer, flashlight, and cellphone look like.
But get outside of that comfort zone and present them with an uncovered circuit board and some loose wires....  well..  that looks like a bomb, and they will react accordingly.
This in and of itself is not surprising.
What IS surprising is the fact that we're talking about a tech school here.
You would assume that the bar would be set slightly higher in this circumstance.
Enough to assume that those who teach and administrate at the school had at least an introductory electronics course at SOME point.
One would assume anyway.-Restil</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794302</id>
	<title>Re:Apparently, not so much</title>
	<author>Nerdfest</author>
	<datestamp>1263644700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the US, it seems that the only technology skill worth having these days is how to write a patent. Perhaps they don't want these children to be distracted by wires and electronic components.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the US , it seems that the only technology skill worth having these days is how to write a patent .
Perhaps they do n't want these children to be distracted by wires and electronic components .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the US, it seems that the only technology skill worth having these days is how to write a patent.
Perhaps they don't want these children to be distracted by wires and electronic components.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796632</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>EdgeCreeper</author>
	<datestamp>1263760980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm also from Aus and was attracted to girls around age 11; other people must have been as well, since I can remembering playing truth or dare in scouts at primary school age, and one of the things commonly asked was "Who do you like?".   I also know of one person that it didn't kick in to arount 17.  It has also been mentioned here that the ages are usually from <a href="http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1478242&amp;cid=30440894" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">8 - 14</a> [slashdot.org].  Wikipedia says puberty usually begins at 10 for girls and 12 for boys completing 17-18.  So it really seems to vary somewhat.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm also from Aus and was attracted to girls around age 11 ; other people must have been as well , since I can remembering playing truth or dare in scouts at primary school age , and one of the things commonly asked was " Who do you like ? " .
I also know of one person that it did n't kick in to arount 17 .
It has also been mentioned here that the ages are usually from 8 - 14 [ slashdot.org ] .
Wikipedia says puberty usually begins at 10 for girls and 12 for boys completing 17-18 .
So it really seems to vary somewhat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm also from Aus and was attracted to girls around age 11; other people must have been as well, since I can remembering playing truth or dare in scouts at primary school age, and one of the things commonly asked was "Who do you like?".
I also know of one person that it didn't kick in to arount 17.
It has also been mentioned here that the ages are usually from 8 - 14 [slashdot.org].
Wikipedia says puberty usually begins at 10 for girls and 12 for boys completing 17-18.
So it really seems to vary somewhat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793758</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>Narpak</author>
	<datestamp>1263641280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Or maybe the kid was trying to impress his friends by acting like the thing was a bomb. While I'm sure the school/police/fire dept overreacted, kids do strange stuff and often don't realize the consequences of their actions.</p></div><p>All that is mentioned in the article is:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Maurice Luque, spokesman for the San Diego Fire-Rescue Department, said the student had been making the device in his home garage. A vice principal saw the student showing it to other students at school about 11:40 a.m. Friday and was concerned that it might be harmful, and San Diego police were notified.<br> <br>
The school, which has about 440 students in grades 6 to 8 and emphasizes technology skills, was initially put on lockdown while authorities responded.<br> <br>
Both the student and his parents were "very cooperative" with authorities, Luque said. He said fire officials also went to the student's home and checked the garage to make sure items there were neither harmful nor explosive.<br> <br>
The student will not be prosecuted, but authorities were recommending that he and his parents get counseling, the spokesman said. The student violated school policies, but there was no criminal intent, Luque said.</p></div><p>Now I can't say what policies he might have violated; though from what little is said in the article one is left with the impression that the vice principal in question overacted (or erred on the side of caution). I can understand that after going through such an event that the kid in question might need a bit of counselling to deal with the fact that he got hanged out in-front of the whole school as a possible terrorist. So I hope that is what they are talking about, and not that he "needs counselling" because he inadvertently scared a frightened adult administrator.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or maybe the kid was trying to impress his friends by acting like the thing was a bomb .
While I 'm sure the school/police/fire dept overreacted , kids do strange stuff and often do n't realize the consequences of their actions.All that is mentioned in the article is : Maurice Luque , spokesman for the San Diego Fire-Rescue Department , said the student had been making the device in his home garage .
A vice principal saw the student showing it to other students at school about 11 : 40 a.m. Friday and was concerned that it might be harmful , and San Diego police were notified .
The school , which has about 440 students in grades 6 to 8 and emphasizes technology skills , was initially put on lockdown while authorities responded .
Both the student and his parents were " very cooperative " with authorities , Luque said .
He said fire officials also went to the student 's home and checked the garage to make sure items there were neither harmful nor explosive .
The student will not be prosecuted , but authorities were recommending that he and his parents get counseling , the spokesman said .
The student violated school policies , but there was no criminal intent , Luque said.Now I ca n't say what policies he might have violated ; though from what little is said in the article one is left with the impression that the vice principal in question overacted ( or erred on the side of caution ) .
I can understand that after going through such an event that the kid in question might need a bit of counselling to deal with the fact that he got hanged out in-front of the whole school as a possible terrorist .
So I hope that is what they are talking about , and not that he " needs counselling " because he inadvertently scared a frightened adult administrator .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or maybe the kid was trying to impress his friends by acting like the thing was a bomb.
While I'm sure the school/police/fire dept overreacted, kids do strange stuff and often don't realize the consequences of their actions.All that is mentioned in the article is:Maurice Luque, spokesman for the San Diego Fire-Rescue Department, said the student had been making the device in his home garage.
A vice principal saw the student showing it to other students at school about 11:40 a.m. Friday and was concerned that it might be harmful, and San Diego police were notified.
The school, which has about 440 students in grades 6 to 8 and emphasizes technology skills, was initially put on lockdown while authorities responded.
Both the student and his parents were "very cooperative" with authorities, Luque said.
He said fire officials also went to the student's home and checked the garage to make sure items there were neither harmful nor explosive.
The student will not be prosecuted, but authorities were recommending that he and his parents get counseling, the spokesman said.
The student violated school policies, but there was no criminal intent, Luque said.Now I can't say what policies he might have violated; though from what little is said in the article one is left with the impression that the vice principal in question overacted (or erred on the side of caution).
I can understand that after going through such an event that the kid in question might need a bit of counselling to deal with the fact that he got hanged out in-front of the whole school as a possible terrorist.
So I hope that is what they are talking about, and not that he "needs counselling" because he inadvertently scared a frightened adult administrator.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30801796</id>
	<title>Insanity</title>
	<author>alistarz</author>
	<datestamp>1263726780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The vice principals reaction to this situation was completely irrational. I think this vice principal needs to take responsibility for his or her actions and should apologize to the kid, family, and everyone else involved with the school. He or she works at a school that promotes science and technology. It should be obvious that some students are going to be doing experiments and making things at home. It is completely natural for a student proud of something he or she did to want to share it with friends and possibly teachers. The vice principal should have asked the kid a few questions before coming to his irrational conclusion. By the sounds of it this kid would have been completely willing to explain what the device does and endure a call to his parents to clarify and complied with a request to leave such items made for personal purposes at home in the future. I'm sure the parents know that their child likes to make things and if they are good parents probably encourage it.

Now on to a response to some of the comments I've seen on the original article. Some of you have done a really good job of making it seem like every school in America is filled with paranoid incompetent nut jobs as teachers, administrators and other staff, that American schools are filled with metal detectors, pat downs, random searches, officers with weapons, no child is allowed a shred of independent thought, children are forced to sit with their mouths closed and not move for hours on end, and so on. This is certainly not even close to the truth. There are some schools in the US that have indeed gone too far in the sprit of &lsquo;security&rsquo; but those schools are a small minority. There are indeed some worrying trends in education and worrying reactions by parents, administrators, other school staff and teachers as evidenced by the original article and a few people&rsquo;s personal stories such as the &lsquo;could be used for growing pot&rsquo; one. Most of the teachers I had growing up were caring individuals who struck a good balance between teaching what was required of them and encouraging individual thought, critical thinking, and appropriate ways of dissenting. I&rsquo;m speaking as an individual who has personally experienced a variety of school systems (including foreign ones) and am currently a teacher of preschoolers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The vice principals reaction to this situation was completely irrational .
I think this vice principal needs to take responsibility for his or her actions and should apologize to the kid , family , and everyone else involved with the school .
He or she works at a school that promotes science and technology .
It should be obvious that some students are going to be doing experiments and making things at home .
It is completely natural for a student proud of something he or she did to want to share it with friends and possibly teachers .
The vice principal should have asked the kid a few questions before coming to his irrational conclusion .
By the sounds of it this kid would have been completely willing to explain what the device does and endure a call to his parents to clarify and complied with a request to leave such items made for personal purposes at home in the future .
I 'm sure the parents know that their child likes to make things and if they are good parents probably encourage it .
Now on to a response to some of the comments I 've seen on the original article .
Some of you have done a really good job of making it seem like every school in America is filled with paranoid incompetent nut jobs as teachers , administrators and other staff , that American schools are filled with metal detectors , pat downs , random searches , officers with weapons , no child is allowed a shred of independent thought , children are forced to sit with their mouths closed and not move for hours on end , and so on .
This is certainly not even close to the truth .
There are some schools in the US that have indeed gone too far in the sprit of    security    but those schools are a small minority .
There are indeed some worrying trends in education and worrying reactions by parents , administrators , other school staff and teachers as evidenced by the original article and a few people    s personal stories such as the    could be used for growing pot    one .
Most of the teachers I had growing up were caring individuals who struck a good balance between teaching what was required of them and encouraging individual thought , critical thinking , and appropriate ways of dissenting .
I    m speaking as an individual who has personally experienced a variety of school systems ( including foreign ones ) and am currently a teacher of preschoolers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The vice principals reaction to this situation was completely irrational.
I think this vice principal needs to take responsibility for his or her actions and should apologize to the kid, family, and everyone else involved with the school.
He or she works at a school that promotes science and technology.
It should be obvious that some students are going to be doing experiments and making things at home.
It is completely natural for a student proud of something he or she did to want to share it with friends and possibly teachers.
The vice principal should have asked the kid a few questions before coming to his irrational conclusion.
By the sounds of it this kid would have been completely willing to explain what the device does and endure a call to his parents to clarify and complied with a request to leave such items made for personal purposes at home in the future.
I'm sure the parents know that their child likes to make things and if they are good parents probably encourage it.
Now on to a response to some of the comments I've seen on the original article.
Some of you have done a really good job of making it seem like every school in America is filled with paranoid incompetent nut jobs as teachers, administrators and other staff, that American schools are filled with metal detectors, pat downs, random searches, officers with weapons, no child is allowed a shred of independent thought, children are forced to sit with their mouths closed and not move for hours on end, and so on.
This is certainly not even close to the truth.
There are some schools in the US that have indeed gone too far in the sprit of ‘security’ but those schools are a small minority.
There are indeed some worrying trends in education and worrying reactions by parents, administrators, other school staff and teachers as evidenced by the original article and a few people’s personal stories such as the ‘could be used for growing pot’ one.
Most of the teachers I had growing up were caring individuals who struck a good balance between teaching what was required of them and encouraging individual thought, critical thinking, and appropriate ways of dissenting.
I’m speaking as an individual who has personally experienced a variety of school systems (including foreign ones) and am currently a teacher of preschoolers.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30798650</id>
	<title>Objective of the project</title>
	<author>William-Ely</author>
	<datestamp>1263746280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What if the real objective wasn't to make a motion detector it was to get out of school early?  I really feel for the kid though. When I was in sixth grade my friend and I came up with an idea to make our own ruby laser. Fortunately we couldn't find a synthetic ruby rod and xenon flash tube. I say fortunately because our master plan was to destroy the school.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What if the real objective was n't to make a motion detector it was to get out of school early ?
I really feel for the kid though .
When I was in sixth grade my friend and I came up with an idea to make our own ruby laser .
Fortunately we could n't find a synthetic ruby rod and xenon flash tube .
I say fortunately because our master plan was to destroy the school .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if the real objective wasn't to make a motion detector it was to get out of school early?
I really feel for the kid though.
When I was in sixth grade my friend and I came up with an idea to make our own ruby laser.
Fortunately we couldn't find a synthetic ruby rod and xenon flash tube.
I say fortunately because our master plan was to destroy the school.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794144</id>
	<title>Re:Call themselves teachers?</title>
	<author>Rob the Bold</author>
	<datestamp>1263643740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Part of the problem here is that an IED can be extremely difficult to identify.  Odds are if it <i>looks</i> like a bomb to the layman, it's probably a prop.</p></div><p>Unless the layman has somehow managed <em>never</em> to have seen an episode of "24", I can assure you that the layman knows what a bomb looks like.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Part of the problem here is that an IED can be extremely difficult to identify .
Odds are if it looks like a bomb to the layman , it 's probably a prop.Unless the layman has somehow managed never to have seen an episode of " 24 " , I can assure you that the layman knows what a bomb looks like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Part of the problem here is that an IED can be extremely difficult to identify.
Odds are if it looks like a bomb to the layman, it's probably a prop.Unless the layman has somehow managed never to have seen an episode of "24", I can assure you that the layman knows what a bomb looks like.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793384</id>
	<title>Are we getting the whole story here?</title>
	<author>91degrees</author>
	<datestamp>1263638880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I mean, did anyone, for example, ask the kid what the device was and perhaps he said "It's a bomb!  I'm going to blow myself and all of you up as a sacrifice for the great god Satan!"  because had he said that, I'd suggest most of the rest of the article makes sense.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean , did anyone , for example , ask the kid what the device was and perhaps he said " It 's a bomb !
I 'm going to blow myself and all of you up as a sacrifice for the great god Satan !
" because had he said that , I 'd suggest most of the rest of the article makes sense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean, did anyone, for example, ask the kid what the device was and perhaps he said "It's a bomb!
I'm going to blow myself and all of you up as a sacrifice for the great god Satan!
"  because had he said that, I'd suggest most of the rest of the article makes sense.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794016</id>
	<title>What if it was really a wolf?</title>
	<author>Haeleth</author>
	<datestamp>1263642840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let us say it was really a wolf.  Then the very same villagers would be all over the shepherd boy.  "What?  There was this wolf!  With claws!  And teeth!  And the clueless boy didn't cry wolf.  When is he going to learn that wild animals are constantly attacking our herds."</p><p>Yes, that boy better keep crying wolf if he wants to be certain that people will rush to help him when a real wolf shows up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let us say it was really a wolf .
Then the very same villagers would be all over the shepherd boy .
" What ? There was this wolf !
With claws !
And teeth !
And the clueless boy did n't cry wolf .
When is he going to learn that wild animals are constantly attacking our herds .
" Yes , that boy better keep crying wolf if he wants to be certain that people will rush to help him when a real wolf shows up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let us say it was really a wolf.
Then the very same villagers would be all over the shepherd boy.
"What?  There was this wolf!
With claws!
And teeth!
And the clueless boy didn't cry wolf.
When is he going to learn that wild animals are constantly attacking our herds.
"Yes, that boy better keep crying wolf if he wants to be certain that people will rush to help him when a real wolf shows up.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793450</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>ColdWetDog</author>
	<datestamp>1263639240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What's the student supposed to get counseling for?</p></div> </blockquote><p>
Counsel, as in legal counsel perhaps.  That's who I would talk to first.<br> <br>
Instead of an abject apology, the school has the gall to toss the blame on the parents and student?  Good thing the school emphasizes technology, I can't imagine what sort of idiot is the vice principal for a 'normal' school.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the student supposed to get counseling for ?
Counsel , as in legal counsel perhaps .
That 's who I would talk to first .
Instead of an abject apology , the school has the gall to toss the blame on the parents and student ?
Good thing the school emphasizes technology , I ca n't imagine what sort of idiot is the vice principal for a 'normal ' school .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the student supposed to get counseling for?
Counsel, as in legal counsel perhaps.
That's who I would talk to first.
Instead of an abject apology, the school has the gall to toss the blame on the parents and student?
Good thing the school emphasizes technology, I can't imagine what sort of idiot is the vice principal for a 'normal' school.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795264</id>
	<title>The US Must be paranoid...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263653640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>About seven years ago in New Zealand one of my classmates made an actual setup to detonate<br>C4 as part of a class project. He loaded the thing with play dough, a couple of flashing LEDs and<br>a speaker.<br>The teachers didn't seem to mind.</p><p>Of course this was in a country school, hunting and blowing stuff up where both popular hobbies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>About seven years ago in New Zealand one of my classmates made an actual setup to detonateC4 as part of a class project .
He loaded the thing with play dough , a couple of flashing LEDs anda speaker.The teachers did n't seem to mind.Of course this was in a country school , hunting and blowing stuff up where both popular hobbies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>About seven years ago in New Zealand one of my classmates made an actual setup to detonateC4 as part of a class project.
He loaded the thing with play dough, a couple of flashing LEDs anda speaker.The teachers didn't seem to mind.Of course this was in a country school, hunting and blowing stuff up where both popular hobbies.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30800980</id>
	<title>Administration unethical and should be fired.</title>
	<author>phorgan1</author>
	<datestamp>1263721560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They're only saying that he violated a policy, and recommending counseling for the kid and parents to spin their idiocy into something else.  The guy at the school should be fired for giving an example to the kids of not taking responsibility for his own actions.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're only saying that he violated a policy , and recommending counseling for the kid and parents to spin their idiocy into something else .
The guy at the school should be fired for giving an example to the kids of not taking responsibility for his own actions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're only saying that he violated a policy, and recommending counseling for the kid and parents to spin their idiocy into something else.
The guy at the school should be fired for giving an example to the kids of not taking responsibility for his own actions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794960</id>
	<title>Are we stupid or something?</title>
	<author>Tei</author>
	<datestamp>1263650340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People has to build gadgets on his normal lifes. Everyone sould be allowed. If some guy mistake it for a bomb, is his mistake, not the creator of the artifact. The kid sould not be in any way demoralized by this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People has to build gadgets on his normal lifes .
Everyone sould be allowed .
If some guy mistake it for a bomb , is his mistake , not the creator of the artifact .
The kid sould not be in any way demoralized by this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People has to build gadgets on his normal lifes.
Everyone sould be allowed.
If some guy mistake it for a bomb, is his mistake, not the creator of the artifact.
The kid sould not be in any way demoralized by this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794178</id>
	<title>Re:What if it was really a bomb?</title>
	<author>isomer1</author>
	<datestamp>1263643920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thank you for standing up and saying this.  Most of this page is filled with random 'THE VICE PRINCIPLE IS THE SUXXORZ RAWR!' rants which have sadly spilled on to the local news page (many of the comments on that page are in fact copied verbatim here on slashdot).<br>
<br>
The description for the 'project' is quite vague, though it is described as a motion detector.  I am under the impression that this is a inquisitive child's attempt at making a 'motion detector' the same way he might make a fire truck out of a cardboard box.  People keep saying how the vice-principle should have known better, but there are certainly 11 year-olds that are capable of constructing explosives.  With the obvious exception of things-that-do-nothing, explosives are probably the easiest project to make, and its highly plausible that amongst the student population of a tech school that you'd find students capable of making such a project.<br>
<br>
For all the people slamming the vice-principle let me pose the following mental experiment:  (1) imagine a gatorade bottle with random wire and IC chips glued to the surface (2) imagine an actual explosive device constructed by an 11-year old.  If those objects look drastically different in your mind then you've been watching too much television.  A high-school buddy of mine does bomb disposal for a PD down in Georgia and he has plenty of stories about real bombs that look like a someone spun a pitchfork in the bargain bin at a local electronics shop and covered the thing in hot glue.<br>
<br>
Yes it sounds like things got out of hand, yes the school should probably plan and highly publicize how such an event will be handled in the future, but good grief stop screaming at people that had make a judgment call with the possible danger to several hundred students on the line.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you for standing up and saying this .
Most of this page is filled with random 'THE VICE PRINCIPLE IS THE SUXXORZ RAWR !
' rants which have sadly spilled on to the local news page ( many of the comments on that page are in fact copied verbatim here on slashdot ) .
The description for the 'project ' is quite vague , though it is described as a motion detector .
I am under the impression that this is a inquisitive child 's attempt at making a 'motion detector ' the same way he might make a fire truck out of a cardboard box .
People keep saying how the vice-principle should have known better , but there are certainly 11 year-olds that are capable of constructing explosives .
With the obvious exception of things-that-do-nothing , explosives are probably the easiest project to make , and its highly plausible that amongst the student population of a tech school that you 'd find students capable of making such a project .
For all the people slamming the vice-principle let me pose the following mental experiment : ( 1 ) imagine a gatorade bottle with random wire and IC chips glued to the surface ( 2 ) imagine an actual explosive device constructed by an 11-year old .
If those objects look drastically different in your mind then you 've been watching too much television .
A high-school buddy of mine does bomb disposal for a PD down in Georgia and he has plenty of stories about real bombs that look like a someone spun a pitchfork in the bargain bin at a local electronics shop and covered the thing in hot glue .
Yes it sounds like things got out of hand , yes the school should probably plan and highly publicize how such an event will be handled in the future , but good grief stop screaming at people that had make a judgment call with the possible danger to several hundred students on the line .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you for standing up and saying this.
Most of this page is filled with random 'THE VICE PRINCIPLE IS THE SUXXORZ RAWR!
' rants which have sadly spilled on to the local news page (many of the comments on that page are in fact copied verbatim here on slashdot).
The description for the 'project' is quite vague, though it is described as a motion detector.
I am under the impression that this is a inquisitive child's attempt at making a 'motion detector' the same way he might make a fire truck out of a cardboard box.
People keep saying how the vice-principle should have known better, but there are certainly 11 year-olds that are capable of constructing explosives.
With the obvious exception of things-that-do-nothing, explosives are probably the easiest project to make, and its highly plausible that amongst the student population of a tech school that you'd find students capable of making such a project.
For all the people slamming the vice-principle let me pose the following mental experiment:  (1) imagine a gatorade bottle with random wire and IC chips glued to the surface (2) imagine an actual explosive device constructed by an 11-year old.
If those objects look drastically different in your mind then you've been watching too much television.
A high-school buddy of mine does bomb disposal for a PD down in Georgia and he has plenty of stories about real bombs that look like a someone spun a pitchfork in the bargain bin at a local electronics shop and covered the thing in hot glue.
Yes it sounds like things got out of hand, yes the school should probably plan and highly publicize how such an event will be handled in the future, but good grief stop screaming at people that had make a judgment call with the possible danger to several hundred students on the line.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793652</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263640620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"What's the student supposed to get counseling for?"</i> <br>
<br>
It's quick, cheap, and simple.  The kid needs to be counseled that some people are easily frightened.  Some people are ignorant.  Some people aren't the least bit intellectually curious.  Some people are idiots.  Most importantly, people who have all of these characteristics, plus psychopathic behavior, are elevated to positions of power and authority.  Just like his associate principal.  Of course, the kid's probably already figured that out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" What 's the student supposed to get counseling for ?
" It 's quick , cheap , and simple .
The kid needs to be counseled that some people are easily frightened .
Some people are ignorant .
Some people are n't the least bit intellectually curious .
Some people are idiots .
Most importantly , people who have all of these characteristics , plus psychopathic behavior , are elevated to positions of power and authority .
Just like his associate principal .
Of course , the kid 's probably already figured that out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"What's the student supposed to get counseling for?
" 

It's quick, cheap, and simple.
The kid needs to be counseled that some people are easily frightened.
Some people are ignorant.
Some people aren't the least bit intellectually curious.
Some people are idiots.
Most importantly, people who have all of these characteristics, plus psychopathic behavior, are elevated to positions of power and authority.
Just like his associate principal.
Of course, the kid's probably already figured that out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30800252</id>
	<title>Game Over</title>
	<author>TheTyrannyOfForcedRe</author>
	<datestamp>1263759360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The terrorists have one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The terrorists have one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The terrorists have one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795368</id>
	<title>Re:Call themselves teachers?</title>
	<author>5pp000</author>
	<datestamp>1263655140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Particularly the amount we're willing to pay here in California.  It never ceases to astound me that the state that is home to the technology capital of the world is so blind to the importance of educating the next generation.  It's just unfathomable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Particularly the amount we 're willing to pay here in California .
It never ceases to astound me that the state that is home to the technology capital of the world is so blind to the importance of educating the next generation .
It 's just unfathomable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Particularly the amount we're willing to pay here in California.
It never ceases to astound me that the state that is home to the technology capital of the world is so blind to the importance of educating the next generation.
It's just unfathomable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793460</id>
	<title>Fucked up paranoia</title>
	<author>Luc1fel</author>
	<datestamp>1263639360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, it wasn't enough that the device from the poor kid (who showed some practical skills) was perfectly harmless, his home also had to be checked just in case he was a terrorist?
<br> <br>
That's fucked up beyond 1984.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , it was n't enough that the device from the poor kid ( who showed some practical skills ) was perfectly harmless , his home also had to be checked just in case he was a terrorist ?
That 's fucked up beyond 1984 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, it wasn't enough that the device from the poor kid (who showed some practical skills) was perfectly harmless, his home also had to be checked just in case he was a terrorist?
That's fucked up beyond 1984.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796424</id>
	<title>Maybe I overlook something critical here, but...</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1263670620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ok, here's an 11 year old carrying a gatorade bottle filled with electronics and wires. Now, this <i>may</i> be suspicious, after all, why should an 11 year old carry a Gatorade bottle filled with electronics and wires. If, yes if, it was not time to hand in his friggin' science project! What's the principal going to do when they have a science fair? Evacuate the school and blow the whole crap up just to be sure because the assembly place is filled with funky looking items?</p><p>Or was it one of those really prissy schools where you'd expect your kids to come with rapid-prototyped shell for their projects and someone housing it in a Gatorade bottle is looking suspiciously poor? What the fuck did he expect the science project to be? Another potatoe-battery?</p><p>That kid should get an award for coming up with that idea (ok, provided his parents didn't really do the work, but let's assume the best here). 11 year old builds a motion detector in a Gatorade bottle, that's genius! Instead now he'll probably think he did something bad, toss the whole science crap and follow the teenage dream: Become the next American Idol.</p><p>Great. Effing great. Good job America, again you managed to punish someone for trying to be anything but an utter moron.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , here 's an 11 year old carrying a gatorade bottle filled with electronics and wires .
Now , this may be suspicious , after all , why should an 11 year old carry a Gatorade bottle filled with electronics and wires .
If , yes if , it was not time to hand in his friggin ' science project !
What 's the principal going to do when they have a science fair ?
Evacuate the school and blow the whole crap up just to be sure because the assembly place is filled with funky looking items ? Or was it one of those really prissy schools where you 'd expect your kids to come with rapid-prototyped shell for their projects and someone housing it in a Gatorade bottle is looking suspiciously poor ?
What the fuck did he expect the science project to be ?
Another potatoe-battery ? That kid should get an award for coming up with that idea ( ok , provided his parents did n't really do the work , but let 's assume the best here ) .
11 year old builds a motion detector in a Gatorade bottle , that 's genius !
Instead now he 'll probably think he did something bad , toss the whole science crap and follow the teenage dream : Become the next American Idol.Great .
Effing great .
Good job America , again you managed to punish someone for trying to be anything but an utter moron .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, here's an 11 year old carrying a gatorade bottle filled with electronics and wires.
Now, this may be suspicious, after all, why should an 11 year old carry a Gatorade bottle filled with electronics and wires.
If, yes if, it was not time to hand in his friggin' science project!
What's the principal going to do when they have a science fair?
Evacuate the school and blow the whole crap up just to be sure because the assembly place is filled with funky looking items?Or was it one of those really prissy schools where you'd expect your kids to come with rapid-prototyped shell for their projects and someone housing it in a Gatorade bottle is looking suspiciously poor?
What the fuck did he expect the science project to be?
Another potatoe-battery?That kid should get an award for coming up with that idea (ok, provided his parents didn't really do the work, but let's assume the best here).
11 year old builds a motion detector in a Gatorade bottle, that's genius!
Instead now he'll probably think he did something bad, toss the whole science crap and follow the teenage dream: Become the next American Idol.Great.
Effing great.
Good job America, again you managed to punish someone for trying to be anything but an utter moron.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30797564</id>
	<title>Re:another misleading summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263735900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, counseling as in "we're sorry that we are so incredibly stupid, sincerely The School."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , counseling as in " we 're sorry that we are so incredibly stupid , sincerely The School .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, counseling as in "we're sorry that we are so incredibly stupid, sincerely The School.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793858</id>
	<title>This is why people DROP OUT OF SCHOOL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263641760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My younger brother used to get in trouble for telling his math and science teachers that they were fools and idiots when they asked him questions in class.  Nothing was very challenging to him.  He dropped out after the 10th grade.</p><p>He went to Community College, got straight A's.  He got into an engineering program at a public university, got almost straight A's.  Now he's finished his PhD at the top engineering school in the country, in his field, MIT.</p><p>American schools are there to train the rank and file.  In fact everyone that I know that works in a scientific field had dangerous aspirations in their teenage years, and didn't think much of the education our systems were providing.  It became clear to all of us that if we cared to actually learn anything, it would be on our own.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My younger brother used to get in trouble for telling his math and science teachers that they were fools and idiots when they asked him questions in class .
Nothing was very challenging to him .
He dropped out after the 10th grade.He went to Community College , got straight A 's .
He got into an engineering program at a public university , got almost straight A 's .
Now he 's finished his PhD at the top engineering school in the country , in his field , MIT.American schools are there to train the rank and file .
In fact everyone that I know that works in a scientific field had dangerous aspirations in their teenage years , and did n't think much of the education our systems were providing .
It became clear to all of us that if we cared to actually learn anything , it would be on our own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My younger brother used to get in trouble for telling his math and science teachers that they were fools and idiots when they asked him questions in class.
Nothing was very challenging to him.
He dropped out after the 10th grade.He went to Community College, got straight A's.
He got into an engineering program at a public university, got almost straight A's.
Now he's finished his PhD at the top engineering school in the country, in his field, MIT.American schools are there to train the rank and file.
In fact everyone that I know that works in a scientific field had dangerous aspirations in their teenage years, and didn't think much of the education our systems were providing.
It became clear to all of us that if we cared to actually learn anything, it would be on our own.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793336</id>
	<title>Retarded "Educators"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263638520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And we wonder why US is behind all other nations in educating our young.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And we wonder why US is behind all other nations in educating our young .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And we wonder why US is behind all other nations in educating our young.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793414</id>
	<title>They do need counselling</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1263639060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Clearly parents that expect their child to be educated by morons who think anything with wires and a clear container must be a bomb, and don't take enough interest in the child to ask him what he's building, need counseling about their choice of schools. If the kid managed to build a motion detector at 11, that doesn't make him a genius, but they should be looking at advanced classes taught by competent and sane people.</p><p>I think the entire faculty and investigating police should get counseling over this drama too, preferably at the local unemployment office.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Clearly parents that expect their child to be educated by morons who think anything with wires and a clear container must be a bomb , and do n't take enough interest in the child to ask him what he 's building , need counseling about their choice of schools .
If the kid managed to build a motion detector at 11 , that does n't make him a genius , but they should be looking at advanced classes taught by competent and sane people.I think the entire faculty and investigating police should get counseling over this drama too , preferably at the local unemployment office .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clearly parents that expect their child to be educated by morons who think anything with wires and a clear container must be a bomb, and don't take enough interest in the child to ask him what he's building, need counseling about their choice of schools.
If the kid managed to build a motion detector at 11, that doesn't make him a genius, but they should be looking at advanced classes taught by competent and sane people.I think the entire faculty and investigating police should get counseling over this drama too, preferably at the local unemployment office.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793560</id>
	<title>No substance?</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1263640020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Luque said the project was made of an empty half-liter Gatorade bottle with some wires and other electrical components attached. <b>There was no substance inside</b>.</p></div><p>This kid is clearly a genius. He has created the worlds first 100\% hard vacuum, in a soft drink bottle no less. He has even eliminated zero point energy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Luque said the project was made of an empty half-liter Gatorade bottle with some wires and other electrical components attached .
There was no substance inside.This kid is clearly a genius .
He has created the worlds first 100 \ % hard vacuum , in a soft drink bottle no less .
He has even eliminated zero point energy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Luque said the project was made of an empty half-liter Gatorade bottle with some wires and other electrical components attached.
There was no substance inside.This kid is clearly a genius.
He has created the worlds first 100\% hard vacuum, in a soft drink bottle no less.
He has even eliminated zero point energy.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796832</id>
	<title>Re:This really takes the cake</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263721980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>&gt; </p><p>What happened to the country that put the first man on the moon?  We have gone completely insane.</p></div><p>Another reason to believe the moonlanding was a fake.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; What happened to the country that put the first man on the moon ?
We have gone completely insane.Another reason to believe the moonlanding was a fake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; What happened to the country that put the first man on the moon?
We have gone completely insane.Another reason to believe the moonlanding was a fake.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794470</id>
	<title>Got away with one this time sonny ...</title>
	<author>gordguide</author>
	<datestamp>1263646020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From TFA:<br>"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... "There will be no (criminal) charges whatsoever," Luque said.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..."<br>"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Students were evacuated from Millennial Tech Magnet Middle School in the Chollas View neighborhood Friday afternoon after an 11-year-old student<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..."</p><p>That's right. Criminal charges against an 11-year old.</p><p>As it turns out, California has no Minimum Age for Criminal Responsibility (MACR), so if they wanted to, they could have brought charges against the student.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : " ... " There will be no ( criminal ) charges whatsoever , " Luque said .
... " " ... Students were evacuated from Millennial Tech Magnet Middle School in the Chollas View neighborhood Friday afternoon after an 11-year-old student ... " That 's right .
Criminal charges against an 11-year old.As it turns out , California has no Minimum Age for Criminal Responsibility ( MACR ) , so if they wanted to , they could have brought charges against the student .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA:" ... "There will be no (criminal) charges whatsoever," Luque said.
..."" ... Students were evacuated from Millennial Tech Magnet Middle School in the Chollas View neighborhood Friday afternoon after an 11-year-old student ..."That's right.
Criminal charges against an 11-year old.As it turns out, California has no Minimum Age for Criminal Responsibility (MACR), so if they wanted to, they could have brought charges against the student.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793762</id>
	<title>Re:Call themselves teachers?</title>
	<author>santax</author>
	<datestamp>1263641280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would have modded you up, but since the post already is at 5 insightful and I in fact don't have any modding points, you will have to do with this virtual pat on the shoulder.

*pats*</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would have modded you up , but since the post already is at 5 insightful and I in fact do n't have any modding points , you will have to do with this virtual pat on the shoulder .
* pats *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would have modded you up, but since the post already is at 5 insightful and I in fact don't have any modding points, you will have to do with this virtual pat on the shoulder.
*pats*</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796138</id>
	<title>Overreacting</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1263665100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The people that overreact to shit like this almost certainly have too much time on their hands. I was working for HP. One of the computers in my cubicle was running an HP approved Linux distro, installed by HP personnel, and not reconfigured by me. It randomly cycled through screen savers, including the one that displayed messages from the fortune files. One of the fortune files was the Zippy the pinhead one that contained the quote "I want to kill everyone here with a cute, colorful hydrogen bomb!" Now imagine the reaction of their highly trained, skilled rent-a-cop upon seeing this at 3am while on rounds. And the overreaction of their security staff, assuming I must be a dangerous sociopath because this was on MY machine, and I am obviously responsible for anything displayed on my machine. The result -- I was suspended for a week until they straightened it out. With pay. I was on the critical path for our project, which means project delivery was delayed for a week due to these dick heads. One of my coworkers investigated and explained it to them (which was difficult, since they had recorded the quote incorrectly) and I finally got called back to work. Nope, they never apologized or admitted their mistake in any way, shape or form. And of course I spent that one week hiatus applying for better jobs, one of which came through about a month later.</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The people that overreact to shit like this almost certainly have too much time on their hands .
I was working for HP .
One of the computers in my cubicle was running an HP approved Linux distro , installed by HP personnel , and not reconfigured by me .
It randomly cycled through screen savers , including the one that displayed messages from the fortune files .
One of the fortune files was the Zippy the pinhead one that contained the quote " I want to kill everyone here with a cute , colorful hydrogen bomb !
" Now imagine the reaction of their highly trained , skilled rent-a-cop upon seeing this at 3am while on rounds .
And the overreaction of their security staff , assuming I must be a dangerous sociopath because this was on MY machine , and I am obviously responsible for anything displayed on my machine .
The result -- I was suspended for a week until they straightened it out .
With pay .
I was on the critical path for our project , which means project delivery was delayed for a week due to these dick heads .
One of my coworkers investigated and explained it to them ( which was difficult , since they had recorded the quote incorrectly ) and I finally got called back to work .
Nope , they never apologized or admitted their mistake in any way , shape or form .
And of course I spent that one week hiatus applying for better jobs , one of which came through about a month later .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The people that overreact to shit like this almost certainly have too much time on their hands.
I was working for HP.
One of the computers in my cubicle was running an HP approved Linux distro, installed by HP personnel, and not reconfigured by me.
It randomly cycled through screen savers, including the one that displayed messages from the fortune files.
One of the fortune files was the Zippy the pinhead one that contained the quote "I want to kill everyone here with a cute, colorful hydrogen bomb!
" Now imagine the reaction of their highly trained, skilled rent-a-cop upon seeing this at 3am while on rounds.
And the overreaction of their security staff, assuming I must be a dangerous sociopath because this was on MY machine, and I am obviously responsible for anything displayed on my machine.
The result -- I was suspended for a week until they straightened it out.
With pay.
I was on the critical path for our project, which means project delivery was delayed for a week due to these dick heads.
One of my coworkers investigated and explained it to them (which was difficult, since they had recorded the quote incorrectly) and I finally got called back to work.
Nope, they never apologized or admitted their mistake in any way, shape or form.
And of course I spent that one week hiatus applying for better jobs, one of which came through about a month later.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30798314</id>
	<title>I agree that this child will need counseling...</title>
	<author>rkchang</author>
	<datestamp>1263743880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...for having an inept principal and the trauma of unnecessary police intervention. If something like that happened to me, I'd probably have a panic attack upon stepping on school grounds.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...for having an inept principal and the trauma of unnecessary police intervention .
If something like that happened to me , I 'd probably have a panic attack upon stepping on school grounds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...for having an inept principal and the trauma of unnecessary police intervention.
If something like that happened to me, I'd probably have a panic attack upon stepping on school grounds.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793500</id>
	<title>Counseling?</title>
	<author>BigDXLT</author>
	<datestamp>1263639660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The kid is <em>not</em> the one who needs counseling.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The kid is not the one who needs counseling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The kid is not the one who needs counseling.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30797336</id>
	<title>Charge the person!</title>
	<author>cdn-programmer</author>
	<datestamp>1263731040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How is this different than the idjots who called 911 and claimed their kid had been lofted above in a beautiful silver balloon?  They are doing time.  So should this jerk.  Its public mischief.</p><p>Of course up here in Canada we try to laugh this stuff off.</p><p>Years ago we were in the news.  One of our people took a handful of flour and tossed it on the bottom of a power pole.  This is something we've been doing around the world for something like 60+ years.  Its pretty innocent.</p><p>Along come the authorities.  They test this "white powder".  It test positive.  Why?  Because THEY contaminated their sample with the power pole.  This hits the 12:00 news!  Panic in the streets.</p><p>Was there an explanation given to the public - Nooooo.  Not on your life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How is this different than the idjots who called 911 and claimed their kid had been lofted above in a beautiful silver balloon ?
They are doing time .
So should this jerk .
Its public mischief.Of course up here in Canada we try to laugh this stuff off.Years ago we were in the news .
One of our people took a handful of flour and tossed it on the bottom of a power pole .
This is something we 've been doing around the world for something like 60 + years .
Its pretty innocent.Along come the authorities .
They test this " white powder " .
It test positive .
Why ? Because THEY contaminated their sample with the power pole .
This hits the 12 : 00 news !
Panic in the streets.Was there an explanation given to the public - Nooooo .
Not on your life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is this different than the idjots who called 911 and claimed their kid had been lofted above in a beautiful silver balloon?
They are doing time.
So should this jerk.
Its public mischief.Of course up here in Canada we try to laugh this stuff off.Years ago we were in the news.
One of our people took a handful of flour and tossed it on the bottom of a power pole.
This is something we've been doing around the world for something like 60+ years.
Its pretty innocent.Along come the authorities.
They test this "white powder".
It test positive.
Why?  Because THEY contaminated their sample with the power pole.
This hits the 12:00 news!
Panic in the streets.Was there an explanation given to the public - Nooooo.
Not on your life.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794582</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>TapeCutter</author>
	<datestamp>1263646740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The authorities <b>recommended</b> counciling....<i>"authorities were recommending that he and his parents get counseling"</i>
<br> <br>
Probably because....<i>"both the student and his parents were extremely upset. "He was very shaken by the whole situation, as were his parents," Luque said."</i>
<br> <br>
Cops and firefighters see traumatised people on a daily basis, I would assume their <b>recommendation</b> is sound advise.
<br> <br>
I don't blame the cops at all, they must act as if the threat is real until they can determine otherwise, false alarms are much more common than real bombs but they cannot simply assume someone is crying wolf. Why (after talking to the kid) the authorities evacuated the school and went to the kids home is a total mystery. It would appear that by the time the cops arrived the kid was so scared and confused that he was not making a great deal of sense.
<br> <br>
Why the principal jumped on the conclusion mat is a total mystery. If he thought it was a bomb when he first saw it but allowed the kids to continue playing with it while he called the cops then the whole sorry story can be explained by his monumental cowardice.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The authorities recommended counciling.... " authorities were recommending that he and his parents get counseling " Probably because.... " both the student and his parents were extremely upset .
" He was very shaken by the whole situation , as were his parents , " Luque said .
" Cops and firefighters see traumatised people on a daily basis , I would assume their recommendation is sound advise .
I do n't blame the cops at all , they must act as if the threat is real until they can determine otherwise , false alarms are much more common than real bombs but they can not simply assume someone is crying wolf .
Why ( after talking to the kid ) the authorities evacuated the school and went to the kids home is a total mystery .
It would appear that by the time the cops arrived the kid was so scared and confused that he was not making a great deal of sense .
Why the principal jumped on the conclusion mat is a total mystery .
If he thought it was a bomb when he first saw it but allowed the kids to continue playing with it while he called the cops then the whole sorry story can be explained by his monumental cowardice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The authorities recommended counciling...."authorities were recommending that he and his parents get counseling"
 
Probably because...."both the student and his parents were extremely upset.
"He was very shaken by the whole situation, as were his parents," Luque said.
"
 
Cops and firefighters see traumatised people on a daily basis, I would assume their recommendation is sound advise.
I don't blame the cops at all, they must act as if the threat is real until they can determine otherwise, false alarms are much more common than real bombs but they cannot simply assume someone is crying wolf.
Why (after talking to the kid) the authorities evacuated the school and went to the kids home is a total mystery.
It would appear that by the time the cops arrived the kid was so scared and confused that he was not making a great deal of sense.
Why the principal jumped on the conclusion mat is a total mystery.
If he thought it was a bomb when he first saw it but allowed the kids to continue playing with it while he called the cops then the whole sorry story can be explained by his monumental cowardice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796522</id>
	<title>Re:The Principle and all involved</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263758940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Vice Principals: Mr. Willie Neil and Ms. Heather Potter</p><p>HTH</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vice Principals : Mr. Willie Neil and Ms. Heather PotterHTH</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vice Principals: Mr. Willie Neil and Ms. Heather PotterHTH</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795130</id>
	<title>Ain't no terror</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263652320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>War on Terror? What terror? More people are killed in a day in road accidents than are killed in a year in terrorist actions.</p><p>No one should believe the government anymore.</p><p>So much resource for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... nothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>War on Terror ?
What terror ?
More people are killed in a day in road accidents than are killed in a year in terrorist actions.No one should believe the government anymore.So much resource for ... nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>War on Terror?
What terror?
More people are killed in a day in road accidents than are killed in a year in terrorist actions.No one should believe the government anymore.So much resource for ... nothing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796798</id>
	<title>What Bullshit!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263721320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... the following behaviors cannot occur:<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Cell phone use before or afterschool</p></div><p>What gives them the right or ability to enforce what students do outside of the school building?  FCC permit for jamming equipment?  Consider for a moment that you're not god, bastards.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... the following behaviors can not occur : ... Cell phone use before or afterschoolWhat gives them the right or ability to enforce what students do outside of the school building ?
FCC permit for jamming equipment ?
Consider for a moment that you 're not god , bastards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... the following behaviors cannot occur: ... Cell phone use before or afterschoolWhat gives them the right or ability to enforce what students do outside of the school building?
FCC permit for jamming equipment?
Consider for a moment that you're not god, bastards.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796638</id>
	<title>Counseling? What for?</title>
	<author>fadir</author>
	<datestamp>1263761100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After all this is a science school, isn't it? So the boy needs counseling for doing what the very purpose the school got built for?</p><p>Are there any sane people left over there or has everyone turned manic and totally crazy already? I would really like to visit the U.S. one day but I'm dead scared, not of terrorists but to get snatched by some officials because I wear the wrong colored t-shirt or the like.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After all this is a science school , is n't it ?
So the boy needs counseling for doing what the very purpose the school got built for ? Are there any sane people left over there or has everyone turned manic and totally crazy already ?
I would really like to visit the U.S. one day but I 'm dead scared , not of terrorists but to get snatched by some officials because I wear the wrong colored t-shirt or the like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After all this is a science school, isn't it?
So the boy needs counseling for doing what the very purpose the school got built for?Are there any sane people left over there or has everyone turned manic and totally crazy already?
I would really like to visit the U.S. one day but I'm dead scared, not of terrorists but to get snatched by some officials because I wear the wrong colored t-shirt or the like.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30813064</id>
	<title>What bothers me...</title>
	<author>rogerdr</author>
	<datestamp>1263811680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>is that, even after finding out that the kid's project was harmless, they went to his house and inspected his garage. There was no rational suspicion of wrongdoing, no evidence to justify further investigation. I can only assume that this was the "We always have to be absolutely sure" excuse used far too often to go where they don't have a real right to.</htmltext>
<tokenext>is that , even after finding out that the kid 's project was harmless , they went to his house and inspected his garage .
There was no rational suspicion of wrongdoing , no evidence to justify further investigation .
I can only assume that this was the " We always have to be absolutely sure " excuse used far too often to go where they do n't have a real right to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is that, even after finding out that the kid's project was harmless, they went to his house and inspected his garage.
There was no rational suspicion of wrongdoing, no evidence to justify further investigation.
I can only assume that this was the "We always have to be absolutely sure" excuse used far too often to go where they don't have a real right to.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794672</id>
	<title>Wait, No Criminal Charges?</title>
	<author>johnshirley</author>
	<datestamp>1263647460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"There will be no (criminal) charges whatsoever," Luque said.</p><p>But there should be some charges here. Alas, there's no Criminal Stupidity laws on the books that could be leveled at the vice principal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" There will be no ( criminal ) charges whatsoever , " Luque said.But there should be some charges here .
Alas , there 's no Criminal Stupidity laws on the books that could be leveled at the vice principal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"There will be no (criminal) charges whatsoever," Luque said.But there should be some charges here.
Alas, there's no Criminal Stupidity laws on the books that could be leveled at the vice principal.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30799098</id>
	<title>The terrorists have one</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263750120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I was in high school many many years ago, I got a copy of the Army "Improvised Field Munitions Handbook". Basically how to make bombs, weapons and other nasties from basic household or otherwise easy to find items.  I made a few of the things, since as a typical male kid at the time, was fun and surprisingly educational at the time.  Did a lot of other science experiments with chemicals purchased from the local chemical supply house, would probably have gotten me seriously investigated today.  Now, any student sufficiently adept in the hard sciences (Chemistry, Physics, Biology) can be easily traumatized by stupid teachers that don't even fully understand the subject matter they are teaching, labelling them as potential bombers, weapons makers, or biological terrorists.</p><p>The truth is, we NEED students that understand this stuff, that can make this stuff, so that when they working on our side, can understand this stuff.  If anything so that they can prevent stupid principals like that from raising false alarms.  I mean, it's not like he was re-creating the experiment from "The Manhattan Project".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was in high school many many years ago , I got a copy of the Army " Improvised Field Munitions Handbook " .
Basically how to make bombs , weapons and other nasties from basic household or otherwise easy to find items .
I made a few of the things , since as a typical male kid at the time , was fun and surprisingly educational at the time .
Did a lot of other science experiments with chemicals purchased from the local chemical supply house , would probably have gotten me seriously investigated today .
Now , any student sufficiently adept in the hard sciences ( Chemistry , Physics , Biology ) can be easily traumatized by stupid teachers that do n't even fully understand the subject matter they are teaching , labelling them as potential bombers , weapons makers , or biological terrorists.The truth is , we NEED students that understand this stuff , that can make this stuff , so that when they working on our side , can understand this stuff .
If anything so that they can prevent stupid principals like that from raising false alarms .
I mean , it 's not like he was re-creating the experiment from " The Manhattan Project " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was in high school many many years ago, I got a copy of the Army "Improvised Field Munitions Handbook".
Basically how to make bombs, weapons and other nasties from basic household or otherwise easy to find items.
I made a few of the things, since as a typical male kid at the time, was fun and surprisingly educational at the time.
Did a lot of other science experiments with chemicals purchased from the local chemical supply house, would probably have gotten me seriously investigated today.
Now, any student sufficiently adept in the hard sciences (Chemistry, Physics, Biology) can be easily traumatized by stupid teachers that don't even fully understand the subject matter they are teaching, labelling them as potential bombers, weapons makers, or biological terrorists.The truth is, we NEED students that understand this stuff, that can make this stuff, so that when they working on our side, can understand this stuff.
If anything so that they can prevent stupid principals like that from raising false alarms.
I mean, it's not like he was re-creating the experiment from "The Manhattan Project".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796314</id>
	<title>Let me ask the scary question...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263668460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What do you think an 11 year old who clearly has the brains to build something like this now and has been put through the trauma will feel like doing when he is a little older and has more brains and means to get other materials... Perhaps this was why the counseling was recommended... To make sure this boy's life is not forever altered for worse from this point on... Scary stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What do you think an 11 year old who clearly has the brains to build something like this now and has been put through the trauma will feel like doing when he is a little older and has more brains and means to get other materials... Perhaps this was why the counseling was recommended... To make sure this boy 's life is not forever altered for worse from this point on... Scary stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What do you think an 11 year old who clearly has the brains to build something like this now and has been put through the trauma will feel like doing when he is a little older and has more brains and means to get other materials... Perhaps this was why the counseling was recommended... To make sure this boy's life is not forever altered for worse from this point on... Scary stuff.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795470</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>Sabriel</author>
	<datestamp>1263656220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it odd that I find disturbing that a school for grades "6-8" would have such a strong need to forbid "Prolonged or heavy kissing" and "Fondling/inappropriate sexual contact" that it gets its own prominent section in a school policies summary?</p><p>Here in Aus that'd be ages 11 to 13 and back then my peers and I were still getting used to the novel idea that the opposite sex didn't actually have cooties - the hormones only really kicked in around 14 and even then we didn't get carried away (at least, not most of us and certainly not in front of the teachers). Do kids in San Diego start school later? Puberty earlier? Are the adults scared of their own reflections?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it odd that I find disturbing that a school for grades " 6-8 " would have such a strong need to forbid " Prolonged or heavy kissing " and " Fondling/inappropriate sexual contact " that it gets its own prominent section in a school policies summary ? Here in Aus that 'd be ages 11 to 13 and back then my peers and I were still getting used to the novel idea that the opposite sex did n't actually have cooties - the hormones only really kicked in around 14 and even then we did n't get carried away ( at least , not most of us and certainly not in front of the teachers ) .
Do kids in San Diego start school later ?
Puberty earlier ?
Are the adults scared of their own reflections ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it odd that I find disturbing that a school for grades "6-8" would have such a strong need to forbid "Prolonged or heavy kissing" and "Fondling/inappropriate sexual contact" that it gets its own prominent section in a school policies summary?Here in Aus that'd be ages 11 to 13 and back then my peers and I were still getting used to the novel idea that the opposite sex didn't actually have cooties - the hormones only really kicked in around 14 and even then we didn't get carried away (at least, not most of us and certainly not in front of the teachers).
Do kids in San Diego start school later?
Puberty earlier?
Are the adults scared of their own reflections?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795336</id>
	<title>Re:another misleading summary</title>
	<author>gnapster</author>
	<datestamp>1263654660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you RTFA, it looks like the cops are saying that they should get counseling because the kid and parents were upset by the incident.</p></div><p>
Actually, the way I read the pertitent part of TFA, the counselling recommendation sounds to be in lieu of more serious consequences rather than as a concession to what the student and family have been put through (my emphasis added):</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The student will not be prosecuted, <b>but</b> authorities were recommending that he and his parents get counseling, the spokesman said. The student violated school policies, but there was no criminal intent, Luque said.</p></div><p>
That sounds to me like the point of the counselling is to help the family learn how to avoid unwittingly inciting panic.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you RTFA , it looks like the cops are saying that they should get counseling because the kid and parents were upset by the incident .
Actually , the way I read the pertitent part of TFA , the counselling recommendation sounds to be in lieu of more serious consequences rather than as a concession to what the student and family have been put through ( my emphasis added ) : The student will not be prosecuted , but authorities were recommending that he and his parents get counseling , the spokesman said .
The student violated school policies , but there was no criminal intent , Luque said .
That sounds to me like the point of the counselling is to help the family learn how to avoid unwittingly inciting panic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you RTFA, it looks like the cops are saying that they should get counseling because the kid and parents were upset by the incident.
Actually, the way I read the pertitent part of TFA, the counselling recommendation sounds to be in lieu of more serious consequences rather than as a concession to what the student and family have been put through (my emphasis added):The student will not be prosecuted, but authorities were recommending that he and his parents get counseling, the spokesman said.
The student violated school policies, but there was no criminal intent, Luque said.
That sounds to me like the point of the counselling is to help the family learn how to avoid unwittingly inciting panic.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793318</id>
	<title>I recommend ...</title>
	<author>Colin Smith</author>
	<datestamp>1263638400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That everyone should stick some coloured wires into cardboard tubes, then leave them lying about all over the place. The more the merrier.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That everyone should stick some coloured wires into cardboard tubes , then leave them lying about all over the place .
The more the merrier .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>That everyone should stick some coloured wires into cardboard tubes, then leave them lying about all over the place.
The more the merrier.
 </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30797852</id>
	<title>Powerade</title>
	<author>lavardo</author>
	<datestamp>1263739620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The principal had a Powerade bottle in his hand and got jealous.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The principal had a Powerade bottle in his hand and got jealous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The principal had a Powerade bottle in his hand and got jealous.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795702</id>
	<title>Re:Administratium is dense</title>
	<author>Giltron</author>
	<datestamp>1263658620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And what happens when the parents are bigger sheep than the students.

<p>http://www.greatschools.org/school/parentReviews.page?id=24725&amp;state=CA</p><p>
This school does not deserve the rating it gets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And what happens when the parents are bigger sheep than the students .
http : //www.greatschools.org/school/parentReviews.page ? id = 24725&amp;state = CA This school does not deserve the rating it gets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And what happens when the parents are bigger sheep than the students.
http://www.greatschools.org/school/parentReviews.page?id=24725&amp;state=CA
This school does not deserve the rating it gets.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30801918</id>
	<title>Re:another misleading summary</title>
	<author>fishexe</author>
	<datestamp>1263727620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you RTFA, it looks like the cops are saying that they should get counseling because the kid and parents were upset by the incident.</p></div><p>No it doesn't.  It sounds exactly like the counseling they always give to kids who "do something wrong", like when a kid in Madison, WI brought a paring knife to school for a scientific demonstration and was told to undergo anger management counseling because it was a "weapon".  There are lots of other examples but that's always how they describe forcing the kid to undergo counseling because the school can't admit it was wrong, and therefore has to make it seem like the kid is messed up to begin with.  If it were as you say, they would have said it was recommended for the kid, not required.  Required counseling is a CYA for the admin.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you RTFA , it looks like the cops are saying that they should get counseling because the kid and parents were upset by the incident.No it does n't .
It sounds exactly like the counseling they always give to kids who " do something wrong " , like when a kid in Madison , WI brought a paring knife to school for a scientific demonstration and was told to undergo anger management counseling because it was a " weapon " .
There are lots of other examples but that 's always how they describe forcing the kid to undergo counseling because the school ca n't admit it was wrong , and therefore has to make it seem like the kid is messed up to begin with .
If it were as you say , they would have said it was recommended for the kid , not required .
Required counseling is a CYA for the admin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you RTFA, it looks like the cops are saying that they should get counseling because the kid and parents were upset by the incident.No it doesn't.
It sounds exactly like the counseling they always give to kids who "do something wrong", like when a kid in Madison, WI brought a paring knife to school for a scientific demonstration and was told to undergo anger management counseling because it was a "weapon".
There are lots of other examples but that's always how they describe forcing the kid to undergo counseling because the school can't admit it was wrong, and therefore has to make it seem like the kid is messed up to begin with.
If it were as you say, they would have said it was recommended for the kid, not required.
Required counseling is a CYA for the admin.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796554</id>
	<title>WTF Over?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263759360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have we really deteriorated to the point where a supposedly educated person believes that an 11 year old has the intelligence to safely make a bomb? I know we got some pretty smart kids out their but with the state of the American education system get real. That vice-principal is the one that needs counseling or at the very least put in the corner with a dunce cap on. MORON!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have we really deteriorated to the point where a supposedly educated person believes that an 11 year old has the intelligence to safely make a bomb ?
I know we got some pretty smart kids out their but with the state of the American education system get real .
That vice-principal is the one that needs counseling or at the very least put in the corner with a dunce cap on .
MORON !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have we really deteriorated to the point where a supposedly educated person believes that an 11 year old has the intelligence to safely make a bomb?
I know we got some pretty smart kids out their but with the state of the American education system get real.
That vice-principal is the one that needs counseling or at the very least put in the corner with a dunce cap on.
MORON!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794074</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>HalfFlat</author>
	<datestamp>1263643200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Now I can't say what policies he might have violated;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>Someone on the comment thread attached to the FA gave an actual link
to the school's <a href="http://www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC\_ID=58810&amp;type=d&amp;termREC\_ID=&amp;pREC\_ID=87933&amp;hideMenu=1&amp;rn=8708720" title="mtechmiddle.org">actual policies.</a> [mtechmiddle.org]
</p><p>
There's <em>nothing</em> there about bringing in an electronics project,
though I guess there was always the possibility that he was so enamored
with it that he engaged in a "public display of affection".
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I ca n't say what policies he might have violated ; ...Someone on the comment thread attached to the FA gave an actual link to the school 's actual policies .
[ mtechmiddle.org ] There 's nothing there about bringing in an electronics project , though I guess there was always the possibility that he was so enamored with it that he engaged in a " public display of affection " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now I can't say what policies he might have violated; ...Someone on the comment thread attached to the FA gave an actual link
to the school's actual policies.
[mtechmiddle.org]

There's nothing there about bringing in an electronics project,
though I guess there was always the possibility that he was so enamored
with it that he engaged in a "public display of affection".

	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30797930</id>
	<title>Same thing happened to me 25 years ago.</title>
	<author>trout007</author>
	<datestamp>1263740220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When I was about this kids age I made a trip wire motion detector with a copper pipe, buzzer, some batteries, toggle switch and a mercury switch purchased at my local Radio Shack. I tied a monofilament line to a tree and stuck this in the ground with the line tied to it. If another kid ran past my house and tripped it, it would go off. I forgot about it and it was found in the street by someones mom who called the police. The police went to her house and talked to her and her kid who knew it was mine. The kid ratted me out so I got a visit from the cop. He asked me if I made such a device and I told him what it was. He apologized to me and said to go pick it out of the street so the mother would calm down. I can't imagine what would happen today.

Oh BTW I'm a mechanical engineer now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was about this kids age I made a trip wire motion detector with a copper pipe , buzzer , some batteries , toggle switch and a mercury switch purchased at my local Radio Shack .
I tied a monofilament line to a tree and stuck this in the ground with the line tied to it .
If another kid ran past my house and tripped it , it would go off .
I forgot about it and it was found in the street by someones mom who called the police .
The police went to her house and talked to her and her kid who knew it was mine .
The kid ratted me out so I got a visit from the cop .
He asked me if I made such a device and I told him what it was .
He apologized to me and said to go pick it out of the street so the mother would calm down .
I ca n't imagine what would happen today .
Oh BTW I 'm a mechanical engineer now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was about this kids age I made a trip wire motion detector with a copper pipe, buzzer, some batteries, toggle switch and a mercury switch purchased at my local Radio Shack.
I tied a monofilament line to a tree and stuck this in the ground with the line tied to it.
If another kid ran past my house and tripped it, it would go off.
I forgot about it and it was found in the street by someones mom who called the police.
The police went to her house and talked to her and her kid who knew it was mine.
The kid ratted me out so I got a visit from the cop.
He asked me if I made such a device and I told him what it was.
He apologized to me and said to go pick it out of the street so the mother would calm down.
I can't imagine what would happen today.
Oh BTW I'm a mechanical engineer now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30798458</id>
	<title>Re:School policy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263744840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would like to see the DVD, but that webpage is evil. It's pure Flash and it plays obnoxious noises and resizes your browser window. Pure EVIL webpage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would like to see the DVD , but that webpage is evil .
It 's pure Flash and it plays obnoxious noises and resizes your browser window .
Pure EVIL webpage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would like to see the DVD, but that webpage is evil.
It's pure Flash and it plays obnoxious noises and resizes your browser window.
Pure EVIL webpage.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30808518</id>
	<title>Re:Talk about overreacting</title>
	<author>velen</author>
	<datestamp>1263833400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As a kid I played killing people. It was either cowboys and indians or police and robbers. But now apparently kids need to be cocooned till they are 18 and then must know everything at once. No time to learn what is right and wrong.</p></div><p>Of course, if they allowed people to get smart, the army wouldn't get recruits for the war on terror.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a kid I played killing people .
It was either cowboys and indians or police and robbers .
But now apparently kids need to be cocooned till they are 18 and then must know everything at once .
No time to learn what is right and wrong.Of course , if they allowed people to get smart , the army would n't get recruits for the war on terror .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a kid I played killing people.
It was either cowboys and indians or police and robbers.
But now apparently kids need to be cocooned till they are 18 and then must know everything at once.
No time to learn what is right and wrong.Of course, if they allowed people to get smart, the army wouldn't get recruits for the war on terror.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793552</id>
	<title>The tech teachers at this magnet school...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263639960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>couldn't figure out if this was hazardous?  Clear container, no solid or liquid substance to be seen.

Doesn't speak much for the teachers imo

Maybe they thought it was a remote det.  Who knows what kind of bs comes to people's frightened minds nowadays.</htmltext>
<tokenext>could n't figure out if this was hazardous ?
Clear container , no solid or liquid substance to be seen .
Does n't speak much for the teachers imo Maybe they thought it was a remote det .
Who knows what kind of bs comes to people 's frightened minds nowadays .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>couldn't figure out if this was hazardous?
Clear container, no solid or liquid substance to be seen.
Doesn't speak much for the teachers imo

Maybe they thought it was a remote det.
Who knows what kind of bs comes to people's frightened minds nowadays.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30797540</id>
	<title>An 11 years-old, really?</title>
	<author>rubi</author>
	<datestamp>1263735480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What? Another case of government-induced neurosis?</p><p>I'm sorry to say (and maibe becoming flame-bait) but the US governmend, along with UK and a couple more, have turned their citizens into neurotically-controlled persons afraid of anything that they believe to recognize as a "terrorist" threath.</p><p>An 11 years-old boy now? really?</p><p>What's next, 6 years-old's bicycle can be used to hide a "zero-point quantum device" from the future?</p><p>WAKE UP!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What ?
Another case of government-induced neurosis ? I 'm sorry to say ( and maibe becoming flame-bait ) but the US governmend , along with UK and a couple more , have turned their citizens into neurotically-controlled persons afraid of anything that they believe to recognize as a " terrorist " threath.An 11 years-old boy now ?
really ? What 's next , 6 years-old 's bicycle can be used to hide a " zero-point quantum device " from the future ? WAKE UP !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What?
Another case of government-induced neurosis?I'm sorry to say (and maibe becoming flame-bait) but the US governmend, along with UK and a couple more, have turned their citizens into neurotically-controlled persons afraid of anything that they believe to recognize as a "terrorist" threath.An 11 years-old boy now?
really?What's next, 6 years-old's bicycle can be used to hide a "zero-point quantum device" from the future?WAKE UP!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796560</id>
	<title>Re:Call themselves teachers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263759480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The more an expert you are in one area, the lower the odds that you are an expert in an unrelated area.</p></div><p>Speak for yourself!</p><p>(Also, I'm certain that at least half of the readership disagrees with your statement, and can likewise provide more-than-adequate supporting evidence.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The more an expert you are in one area , the lower the odds that you are an expert in an unrelated area.Speak for yourself !
( Also , I 'm certain that at least half of the readership disagrees with your statement , and can likewise provide more-than-adequate supporting evidence .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The more an expert you are in one area, the lower the odds that you are an expert in an unrelated area.Speak for yourself!
(Also, I'm certain that at least half of the readership disagrees with your statement, and can likewise provide more-than-adequate supporting evidence.
)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794002</id>
	<title>Re:WTF?</title>
	<author>infosinger</author>
	<datestamp>1263642720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Next, he'll invent a bomb that doesn't look like a science project.</p><p>My friends and I used to carry our BB guns around the suburban neighborhood.  By today's standards we would be considered, if not  terrorists, at least in serious needs of counseling and immediate suspension from school.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Next , he 'll invent a bomb that does n't look like a science project.My friends and I used to carry our BB guns around the suburban neighborhood .
By today 's standards we would be considered , if not terrorists , at least in serious needs of counseling and immediate suspension from school .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Next, he'll invent a bomb that doesn't look like a science project.My friends and I used to carry our BB guns around the suburban neighborhood.
By today's standards we would be considered, if not  terrorists, at least in serious needs of counseling and immediate suspension from school.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30797646</id>
	<title>Re:another misleading summary</title>
	<author>dzfoo</author>
	<datestamp>1263736980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt; <i>Regardless of whether the search was reasonable, do you realize how misled you have been by the summary's "scare quotes"?</i></p><p>OMG!!! "scare quotes" in Slashdot!! The terrorists have won!!11one</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; dZ.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; Regardless of whether the search was reasonable , do you realize how misled you have been by the summary 's " scare quotes " ? OMG ! ! !
" scare quotes " in Slashdot ! !
The terrorists have won !
! 11one       dZ .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt; Regardless of whether the search was reasonable, do you realize how misled you have been by the summary's "scare quotes"?OMG!!!
"scare quotes" in Slashdot!!
The terrorists have won!
!11one
      dZ.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793576</id>
	<title>Fuckwhit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263640140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What a fuckwhit - the school principal should be fired.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What a fuckwhit - the school principal should be fired .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a fuckwhit - the school principal should be fired.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795208</id>
	<title>Re:Fucked up paranoia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263653100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good thing there was no gas in the garage, or solvents, or nails, or pesticides, or rat poison, or a box cutter, or<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Actually, I'm sure McGyver could make a terrific diversion out of any number of common garage items!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good thing there was no gas in the garage , or solvents , or nails , or pesticides , or rat poison , or a box cutter , or ...Actually , I 'm sure McGyver could make a terrific diversion out of any number of common garage items !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good thing there was no gas in the garage, or solvents, or nails, or pesticides, or rat poison, or a box cutter, or ...Actually, I'm sure McGyver could make a terrific diversion out of any number of common garage items!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794838</id>
	<title>I would have been sent to Guantanamo Bay</title>
	<author>billybob\_jcv</author>
	<datestamp>1263648900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they treated kids like this in the 70's, I would have been declared a threat to the free world.  I taught myself how to solder when I was 10, and I was into building all kinds of electronics kits and projects.  I was also into model rocketry and built multi-stage rockets capable of reaching altitudes of 2500 ft.  I brought crap to school to show my class all the time.  Luckily, I didn't grow up to be an international terrorist - I became an engineer.  We are in deep trouble when our education system treats the kids that should be leading us to the next technology leap forward as criminals.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they treated kids like this in the 70 's , I would have been declared a threat to the free world .
I taught myself how to solder when I was 10 , and I was into building all kinds of electronics kits and projects .
I was also into model rocketry and built multi-stage rockets capable of reaching altitudes of 2500 ft. I brought crap to school to show my class all the time .
Luckily , I did n't grow up to be an international terrorist - I became an engineer .
We are in deep trouble when our education system treats the kids that should be leading us to the next technology leap forward as criminals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they treated kids like this in the 70's, I would have been declared a threat to the free world.
I taught myself how to solder when I was 10, and I was into building all kinds of electronics kits and projects.
I was also into model rocketry and built multi-stage rockets capable of reaching altitudes of 2500 ft.  I brought crap to school to show my class all the time.
Luckily, I didn't grow up to be an international terrorist - I became an engineer.
We are in deep trouble when our education system treats the kids that should be leading us to the next technology leap forward as criminals.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30796924</id>
	<title>Re:Article missing a critical detail.</title>
	<author>stenWolf</author>
	<datestamp>1263723720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I actually read TFA, and it states, as the summary quotes, "Apparently, the student violated school policies", but the article doesn't state the policy in question.  It is hard to know if this is a case of stupid overreaction or a real violation of the rules.  Does anyone know the exact wording of this "policy"?</p></div><p> <a href="http://www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC\_ID=58810&amp;type=d&amp;termREC\_ID=&amp;pREC\_ID=87933&amp;hideMenu=1&amp;rn=8708720" title="mtechmiddle.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC\_ID=58810&amp;type=d&amp;termREC\_ID=&amp;pREC\_ID=87933&amp;hideMenu=1&amp;rn=8708720</a> [mtechmiddle.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually read TFA , and it states , as the summary quotes , " Apparently , the student violated school policies " , but the article does n't state the policy in question .
It is hard to know if this is a case of stupid overreaction or a real violation of the rules .
Does anyone know the exact wording of this " policy " ?
http : //www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/pages/index.jsp ? uREC \ _ID = 58810&amp;type = d&amp;termREC \ _ID = &amp;pREC \ _ID = 87933&amp;hideMenu = 1&amp;rn = 8708720 [ mtechmiddle.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually read TFA, and it states, as the summary quotes, "Apparently, the student violated school policies", but the article doesn't state the policy in question.
It is hard to know if this is a case of stupid overreaction or a real violation of the rules.
Does anyone know the exact wording of this "policy"?
http://www.mtechmiddle.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC\_ID=58810&amp;type=d&amp;termREC\_ID=&amp;pREC\_ID=87933&amp;hideMenu=1&amp;rn=8708720 [mtechmiddle.org]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794026</id>
	<title>Re:Talk about overreacting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263642840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And what's more, think of the kid. He tinkered at home, made a motion detector on his own, brought it in to show it off, and people freaked out. What's he going to learn from this? Don't tinker with gadgets, because people freak out and you end up in a world of trouble.</p><p>Yeah, <i>that's</i> going to help America regain (or keep, depending on where you think the US stands right now) its technological edge. Discouraging the most inquisitive of society from an early age. Great thinking there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And what 's more , think of the kid .
He tinkered at home , made a motion detector on his own , brought it in to show it off , and people freaked out .
What 's he going to learn from this ?
Do n't tinker with gadgets , because people freak out and you end up in a world of trouble.Yeah , that 's going to help America regain ( or keep , depending on where you think the US stands right now ) its technological edge .
Discouraging the most inquisitive of society from an early age .
Great thinking there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And what's more, think of the kid.
He tinkered at home, made a motion detector on his own, brought it in to show it off, and people freaked out.
What's he going to learn from this?
Don't tinker with gadgets, because people freak out and you end up in a world of trouble.Yeah, that's going to help America regain (or keep, depending on where you think the US stands right now) its technological edge.
Discouraging the most inquisitive of society from an early age.
Great thinking there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30800888</id>
	<title>This happened to me.</title>
	<author>overkill1024</author>
	<datestamp>1263721020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, almost. In middle school, back in 2000 for me, I had a simple electrolysis project with a nail, penny, battery and jar of vinegar. My teacher set it outside for the weekend because of the hydrogen and told the janitor what it was so he/she wouldn't remove it. Despite this the <b>battery and wires</b> caught the attention of one of the administrators and the authorities were called in. (at a significant expense I'm told) Fortunately for me they had the luxury of learning their lesson quietly over the weekend and while I never got my $3 worth of parts back I did learn some about our society.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , almost .
In middle school , back in 2000 for me , I had a simple electrolysis project with a nail , penny , battery and jar of vinegar .
My teacher set it outside for the weekend because of the hydrogen and told the janitor what it was so he/she would n't remove it .
Despite this the battery and wires caught the attention of one of the administrators and the authorities were called in .
( at a significant expense I 'm told ) Fortunately for me they had the luxury of learning their lesson quietly over the weekend and while I never got my $ 3 worth of parts back I did learn some about our society .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, almost.
In middle school, back in 2000 for me, I had a simple electrolysis project with a nail, penny, battery and jar of vinegar.
My teacher set it outside for the weekend because of the hydrogen and told the janitor what it was so he/she wouldn't remove it.
Despite this the battery and wires caught the attention of one of the administrators and the authorities were called in.
(at a significant expense I'm told) Fortunately for me they had the luxury of learning their lesson quietly over the weekend and while I never got my $3 worth of parts back I did learn some about our society.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794654</id>
	<title>The Principle and all involved</title>
	<author>gearloos</author>
	<datestamp>1263647280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Someone please find these asshats emails and post them here ! 2 million emails jamming the local system should help get the point across although it will probably just make the poor admins life miserable. !We really need to get rid of clowns like these (the school authorities involved). It is a constant irritation that they are "not filing charges". THEY (the school authorities involved) should be charged and it should be dam serious enough to make them think about throwing a families life into disarray the next time. As for local police, well you can't fix stupid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone please find these asshats emails and post them here !
2 million emails jamming the local system should help get the point across although it will probably just make the poor admins life miserable .
! We really need to get rid of clowns like these ( the school authorities involved ) .
It is a constant irritation that they are " not filing charges " .
THEY ( the school authorities involved ) should be charged and it should be dam serious enough to make them think about throwing a families life into disarray the next time .
As for local police , well you ca n't fix stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone please find these asshats emails and post them here !
2 million emails jamming the local system should help get the point across although it will probably just make the poor admins life miserable.
!We really need to get rid of clowns like these (the school authorities involved).
It is a constant irritation that they are "not filing charges".
THEY (the school authorities involved) should be charged and it should be dam serious enough to make them think about throwing a families life into disarray the next time.
As for local police, well you can't fix stupid.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793516</id>
	<title>Re:What if it was really a bomb?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263639780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>this is an 11 year old at a Tech Magnet Middle School in SD. the SD located in the same state as silicon valley. surely the staff at such a school can recognize a fucking IED when they see it. the best way to smuggle a fucking bomb into a school is using the janitor, not a kid on a science fair project which is shown to every fucking person at the school.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>this is an 11 year old at a Tech Magnet Middle School in SD .
the SD located in the same state as silicon valley .
surely the staff at such a school can recognize a fucking IED when they see it .
the best way to smuggle a fucking bomb into a school is using the janitor , not a kid on a science fair project which is shown to every fucking person at the school .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this is an 11 year old at a Tech Magnet Middle School in SD.
the SD located in the same state as silicon valley.
surely the staff at such a school can recognize a fucking IED when they see it.
the best way to smuggle a fucking bomb into a school is using the janitor, not a kid on a science fair project which is shown to every fucking person at the school.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794174</id>
	<title>Oh please...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263643920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a public school for god's sake, it's going to be CYA all the way now.</p><p>If you want intelligent interaction talk to librarians, not school administrators.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a public school for god 's sake , it 's going to be CYA all the way now.If you want intelligent interaction talk to librarians , not school administrators .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a public school for god's sake, it's going to be CYA all the way now.If you want intelligent interaction talk to librarians, not school administrators.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794242</id>
	<title>What you say?!?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263644400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Someone set us up the bomb!!!</p><p>We get signal!!!</p><p>How are you idiots??? All your sense are belong to us!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone set us up the bomb ! !
! We get signal ! !
! How are you idiots ? ? ?
All your sense are belong to us ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone set us up the bomb!!
!We get signal!!
!How are you idiots???
All your sense are belong to us!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793438</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>pushing-robot</author>
	<datestamp>1263639180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or maybe the kid was trying to impress his friends by acting like the thing <i>was</i> a bomb.  While I'm sure the school/police/fire dept overreacted, kids do strange stuff and often don't realize the consequences of their actions.</p><p>It doesn't sound like we have the whole story.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or maybe the kid was trying to impress his friends by acting like the thing was a bomb .
While I 'm sure the school/police/fire dept overreacted , kids do strange stuff and often do n't realize the consequences of their actions.It does n't sound like we have the whole story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or maybe the kid was trying to impress his friends by acting like the thing was a bomb.
While I'm sure the school/police/fire dept overreacted, kids do strange stuff and often don't realize the consequences of their actions.It doesn't sound like we have the whole story.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793854</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263641760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"What's the student supposed to get counseling for?"</i>
<br> <br>
To cover the principal's arse, again.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" What 's the student supposed to get counseling for ?
" To cover the principal 's arse , again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"What's the student supposed to get counseling for?
"
 
To cover the principal's arse, again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30797560</id>
	<title>Re:Talk about overreacting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263735900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Will TSA be staffing the schools to keep out prohibited items?"</p><p>Many schools have had metal detectors for years.   I assume they do routine searches of backpacks as well.</p><p>Not suggesting this is good, just pointing out that it's real.</p><p>TW</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Will TSA be staffing the schools to keep out prohibited items ?
" Many schools have had metal detectors for years .
I assume they do routine searches of backpacks as well.Not suggesting this is good , just pointing out that it 's real.TW</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Will TSA be staffing the schools to keep out prohibited items?
"Many schools have had metal detectors for years.
I assume they do routine searches of backpacks as well.Not suggesting this is good, just pointing out that it's real.TW</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794032</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263642900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I'd like to recommend the authorities get some counseling. Either that, or a clue, but counseling is easier to come by.</i> </p><p>I'd like to recommend the authorities terminate all science education in schools. Just a bunch of homegrown madrasas and terrorist training camps is all they are.</p><p>Don't believe me? If we'd stopped all this science foolishness in the 1930s, we wouldn't have all these nuclear bombs bouncing around the world.</p><p>Q.E.D.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to recommend the authorities get some counseling .
Either that , or a clue , but counseling is easier to come by .
I 'd like to recommend the authorities terminate all science education in schools .
Just a bunch of homegrown madrasas and terrorist training camps is all they are.Do n't believe me ?
If we 'd stopped all this science foolishness in the 1930s , we would n't have all these nuclear bombs bouncing around the world.Q.E.D .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to recommend the authorities get some counseling.
Either that, or a clue, but counseling is easier to come by.
I'd like to recommend the authorities terminate all science education in schools.
Just a bunch of homegrown madrasas and terrorist training camps is all they are.Don't believe me?
If we'd stopped all this science foolishness in the 1930s, we wouldn't have all these nuclear bombs bouncing around the world.Q.E.D.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794402</id>
	<title>Now I understand!</title>
	<author>Belial6</author>
	<datestamp>1263645480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now I understand!  This is the 'socialization' that the home schooled kids are missing!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I understand !
This is the 'socialization ' that the home schooled kids are missing !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now I understand!
This is the 'socialization' that the home schooled kids are missing!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794118</id>
	<title>Re:They do need counselling</title>
	<author>DeadPixels</author>
	<datestamp>1263643500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They probably thought he <b>was</b> in a school with advanced classes. After all, this school was supposed to "emphasize technology skills."</htmltext>
<tokenext>They probably thought he was in a school with advanced classes .
After all , this school was supposed to " emphasize technology skills .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They probably thought he was in a school with advanced classes.
After all, this school was supposed to "emphasize technology skills.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793602</id>
	<title>Re:Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263640260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>^^^ This (agree with russotto)

Ok, you're 11 years old and your teachers and principal call the local authorities on you because of a project they assigned you to do, but thought the project looked like a suspicious "device"? Can you imagine how scary that would be for a kid that old? Yeah I would say he will need counseling, but for what the school principal put him through. If it were me, I would be trying to tell them what my project was over and over. And maybe this kid was doing that too, but of course, no one was listening to an 11 year old kid. Also I remember enough about science projects in school that in most cases all of them had to be approved by the teachers, initially to make sure it fits in with what lessons are being taught. At least I can't see how a teaching system would get away with just assigning students to go and work on projects, but not really making sure the student is on the right track.

This whole event could now make the kid a social pariah, most of us here probably know how cruel some kids that age range can be to others. I'm not a parent but I would almost guess thats something worth taking legal actions against the school.</htmltext>
<tokenext>^ ^ ^ This ( agree with russotto ) Ok , you 're 11 years old and your teachers and principal call the local authorities on you because of a project they assigned you to do , but thought the project looked like a suspicious " device " ?
Can you imagine how scary that would be for a kid that old ?
Yeah I would say he will need counseling , but for what the school principal put him through .
If it were me , I would be trying to tell them what my project was over and over .
And maybe this kid was doing that too , but of course , no one was listening to an 11 year old kid .
Also I remember enough about science projects in school that in most cases all of them had to be approved by the teachers , initially to make sure it fits in with what lessons are being taught .
At least I ca n't see how a teaching system would get away with just assigning students to go and work on projects , but not really making sure the student is on the right track .
This whole event could now make the kid a social pariah , most of us here probably know how cruel some kids that age range can be to others .
I 'm not a parent but I would almost guess thats something worth taking legal actions against the school .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>^^^ This (agree with russotto)

Ok, you're 11 years old and your teachers and principal call the local authorities on you because of a project they assigned you to do, but thought the project looked like a suspicious "device"?
Can you imagine how scary that would be for a kid that old?
Yeah I would say he will need counseling, but for what the school principal put him through.
If it were me, I would be trying to tell them what my project was over and over.
And maybe this kid was doing that too, but of course, no one was listening to an 11 year old kid.
Also I remember enough about science projects in school that in most cases all of them had to be approved by the teachers, initially to make sure it fits in with what lessons are being taught.
At least I can't see how a teaching system would get away with just assigning students to go and work on projects, but not really making sure the student is on the right track.
This whole event could now make the kid a social pariah, most of us here probably know how cruel some kids that age range can be to others.
I'm not a parent but I would almost guess thats something worth taking legal actions against the school.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794198</id>
	<title>Here's some counseling</title>
	<author>haruchai</author>
	<datestamp>1263644040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
&nbsp; Kid, keep up the good work, and move to a school with smarter officials.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>  Kid , keep up the good work , and move to a school with smarter officials .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
  Kid, keep up the good work, and move to a school with smarter officials.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30793332</id>
	<title>Counseling gets the school off the hook</title>
	<author>russotto</author>
	<datestamp>1263638460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's the student supposed to get counseling for?  The trauma the school put him through for no reason?  More likely, so the school authorities can point to the fact that the kid got counseling to show something is wrong with him (and not them)</p><p>I'd like to recommend the authorities get some counseling.  Either that, or a clue, but counseling is easier to come by.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the student supposed to get counseling for ?
The trauma the school put him through for no reason ?
More likely , so the school authorities can point to the fact that the kid got counseling to show something is wrong with him ( and not them ) I 'd like to recommend the authorities get some counseling .
Either that , or a clue , but counseling is easier to come by .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the student supposed to get counseling for?
The trauma the school put him through for no reason?
More likely, so the school authorities can point to the fact that the kid got counseling to show something is wrong with him (and not them)I'd like to recommend the authorities get some counseling.
Either that, or a clue, but counseling is easier to come by.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794184</id>
	<title>Re:Talk about overreacting</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1263643920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>tried to make napalm</p> </div><p>Gee home economics at my school was boring by comparison. We had to make stuff you could eat.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>tried to make napalm Gee home economics at my school was boring by comparison .
We had to make stuff you could eat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>tried to make napalm Gee home economics at my school was boring by comparison.
We had to make stuff you could eat.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795608</id>
	<title>Re:Home Economics terror: Egg-timer mistaken as bo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263657600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What did they suspect was in it? Highly combustible oxygen?</p> </div><p>They suspected it might contain nitrogen, which can be used by terrorists to make ammonium nitrate.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What did they suspect was in it ?
Highly combustible oxygen ?
They suspected it might contain nitrogen , which can be used by terrorists to make ammonium nitrate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What did they suspect was in it?
Highly combustible oxygen?
They suspected it might contain nitrogen, which can be used by terrorists to make ammonium nitrate.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30797326</id>
	<title>I guess I must give a lot of people right here ...</title>
	<author>freaker\_TuC</author>
	<datestamp>1263730980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><b>That terrorists are already dominating our lives</b>, our kids and our future.</p><p>It's what they are best in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... "TERROR"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Look at this reaction and see people freightened in terror<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p><p>And governments are "fixing" it by the most wrong means possible<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. it's madness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That terrorists are already dominating our lives , our kids and our future.It 's what they are best in ... " TERROR " ... Look at this reaction and see people freightened in terror ..And governments are " fixing " it by the most wrong means possible .. it 's madness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That terrorists are already dominating our lives, our kids and our future.It's what they are best in ... "TERROR" ... Look at this reaction and see people freightened in terror ..And governments are "fixing" it by the most wrong means possible .. it's madness.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795466</id>
	<title>Missing details</title>
	<author>ehud42</author>
	<datestamp>1263656160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What did the kid say to the cops that made the cops pursue bomb disposal and authorities recommend family counseling?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What did the kid say to the cops that made the cops pursue bomb disposal and authorities recommend family counseling ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What did the kid say to the cops that made the cops pursue bomb disposal and authorities recommend family counseling?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30797246</id>
	<title>Death of freedom</title>
	<author>Captain\_Chaos</author>
	<datestamp>1263729720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I visited the US last month, and I came to the sad conclusion that it is in fact no longer a free country...

<p>The terrorists have already won.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I visited the US last month , and I came to the sad conclusion that it is in fact no longer a free country.. . The terrorists have already won .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I visited the US last month, and I came to the sad conclusion that it is in fact no longer a free country...

The terrorists have already won.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30795304</id>
	<title>Home Economics terror: Egg-timer mistaken as bomb</title>
	<author>w0mprat</author>
	<datestamp>1263654120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not forgivable. This was an <b>empty</b> Gatorade bottle with some electronics attached. What did they suspect was in it? Highly combustible oxygen?
<br> <br>
What next, a kitchen egg timer could be mistaken as a bomb and a Home Economics class evacuated?
<br> <br>
Terrorism hysteria has turned into insanity. I will seriously be neither surprised when we hear more about everyday objects coming under suspicion. I'm waiting to hear about someone wearing adult incontinence diapers being stripped searched at an airport because they were suspected of having an underwear.
<br> <br>
Who really knows what a bomb looks like, except for the experts? Most people go off they've seen in the movies no doubt. In the realy world bombs don't have lots of red and blue wires with a red-led countdown timer that beeps every second. One would assume someone making a bomb would attempt to mask what it is. For example, shoe-bomber and underwear bombers.
<br> <br>
I might resist the practical joke I had in mind, duct taping an old cellphone and wires to a coke can and putting it on my co-workers desk.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not forgivable .
This was an empty Gatorade bottle with some electronics attached .
What did they suspect was in it ?
Highly combustible oxygen ?
What next , a kitchen egg timer could be mistaken as a bomb and a Home Economics class evacuated ?
Terrorism hysteria has turned into insanity .
I will seriously be neither surprised when we hear more about everyday objects coming under suspicion .
I 'm waiting to hear about someone wearing adult incontinence diapers being stripped searched at an airport because they were suspected of having an underwear .
Who really knows what a bomb looks like , except for the experts ?
Most people go off they 've seen in the movies no doubt .
In the realy world bombs do n't have lots of red and blue wires with a red-led countdown timer that beeps every second .
One would assume someone making a bomb would attempt to mask what it is .
For example , shoe-bomber and underwear bombers .
I might resist the practical joke I had in mind , duct taping an old cellphone and wires to a coke can and putting it on my co-workers desk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not forgivable.
This was an empty Gatorade bottle with some electronics attached.
What did they suspect was in it?
Highly combustible oxygen?
What next, a kitchen egg timer could be mistaken as a bomb and a Home Economics class evacuated?
Terrorism hysteria has turned into insanity.
I will seriously be neither surprised when we hear more about everyday objects coming under suspicion.
I'm waiting to hear about someone wearing adult incontinence diapers being stripped searched at an airport because they were suspected of having an underwear.
Who really knows what a bomb looks like, except for the experts?
Most people go off they've seen in the movies no doubt.
In the realy world bombs don't have lots of red and blue wires with a red-led countdown timer that beeps every second.
One would assume someone making a bomb would attempt to mask what it is.
For example, shoe-bomber and underwear bombers.
I might resist the practical joke I had in mind, duct taping an old cellphone and wires to a coke can and putting it on my co-workers desk.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30797570</id>
	<title>Seven months earlier...</title>
	<author>FailedTheTuringTest</author>
	<datestamp>1263736080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Although the way this was handled sounds incredibly stupid, I can guess what was going through the VP's mind: seven months ago, a student in another San Diego school successfully detonated five "bombs" that he made using Gatorade bottles.</p><p><a href="http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/jun/06/1m6bottle00527-student-arrested-3-blasts-school/?metro&amp;zIndex=111931" title="signonsandiego.com">http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/jun/06/1m6bottle00527-student-arrested-3-blasts-school/?metro&amp;zIndex=111931</a> [signonsandiego.com]</p><p>With that being fairly fresh in authorities' minds, I can easily imagine them worrying that the Millenial Tech student had developed a new and improved version.  It still sounds like they overreacted, but at least I can understand why.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Although the way this was handled sounds incredibly stupid , I can guess what was going through the VP 's mind : seven months ago , a student in another San Diego school successfully detonated five " bombs " that he made using Gatorade bottles.http : //www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/jun/06/1m6bottle00527-student-arrested-3-blasts-school/ ? metro&amp;zIndex = 111931 [ signonsandiego.com ] With that being fairly fresh in authorities ' minds , I can easily imagine them worrying that the Millenial Tech student had developed a new and improved version .
It still sounds like they overreacted , but at least I can understand why .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although the way this was handled sounds incredibly stupid, I can guess what was going through the VP's mind: seven months ago, a student in another San Diego school successfully detonated five "bombs" that he made using Gatorade bottles.http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/jun/06/1m6bottle00527-student-arrested-3-blasts-school/?metro&amp;zIndex=111931 [signonsandiego.com]With that being fairly fresh in authorities' minds, I can easily imagine them worrying that the Millenial Tech student had developed a new and improved version.
It still sounds like they overreacted, but at least I can understand why.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_1550207.30794778</id>
	<title>Don't Tread On Me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263648300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I was at High School I was caught by one of the deans making black powder in a science lab. Instead of taking the opportunity to turn the incident in to a lesson in basic safety or chemistry this teacher went nuts. I remember the science teacher trying to step in and do the right thing. I was threatened with expulsion. My parents were called. I clearly remember him calling me amongst various things , 'A clear threat to society'. What I was actually interested in at the time was model rocketry not bomb making. But like any half smart 13 year old I was capable of both. I figured since had labeled me in his tiny mind as a threat the onus was on me to deliver his nightmare. The very next day this same teacher found under his chair in the teachers staff room exactly what he was afraid of. A plastic lunch box containing two steel pipes a stereo counter and some simple electronics to drive it all. It looked for all the world on first inspection like every bomb MacGyver has ever tried to diffuse. Until you looked closer and saw that the metal tubes were packed with tissue. I was told later that the teacher actually wet himself in the process of trying to diffuse it like the big hero that he was. In those days where I lived we did not have any special response unit for these things. He called the fire department. The whole school was ordered to line up outside on a series of tennis courts. In a strange way rather than confirming that he was right about me the incident merely confirmed that he was a complete idiot. I remember one of the Fireman walking past holding the lunch box and laughing. Anyway the point I was going to make was that if your going to label bright intelligent children as threats when they are merely exploring the world and not intent on hurting anyone then fully expect them to confirm your worst fears 10 times over and then some. I might also ad that this experience was the start for me of a long war of hatred with all forms of authority. Thankfully it was a war I won!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was at High School I was caught by one of the deans making black powder in a science lab .
Instead of taking the opportunity to turn the incident in to a lesson in basic safety or chemistry this teacher went nuts .
I remember the science teacher trying to step in and do the right thing .
I was threatened with expulsion .
My parents were called .
I clearly remember him calling me amongst various things , 'A clear threat to society' .
What I was actually interested in at the time was model rocketry not bomb making .
But like any half smart 13 year old I was capable of both .
I figured since had labeled me in his tiny mind as a threat the onus was on me to deliver his nightmare .
The very next day this same teacher found under his chair in the teachers staff room exactly what he was afraid of .
A plastic lunch box containing two steel pipes a stereo counter and some simple electronics to drive it all .
It looked for all the world on first inspection like every bomb MacGyver has ever tried to diffuse .
Until you looked closer and saw that the metal tubes were packed with tissue .
I was told later that the teacher actually wet himself in the process of trying to diffuse it like the big hero that he was .
In those days where I lived we did not have any special response unit for these things .
He called the fire department .
The whole school was ordered to line up outside on a series of tennis courts .
In a strange way rather than confirming that he was right about me the incident merely confirmed that he was a complete idiot .
I remember one of the Fireman walking past holding the lunch box and laughing .
Anyway the point I was going to make was that if your going to label bright intelligent children as threats when they are merely exploring the world and not intent on hurting anyone then fully expect them to confirm your worst fears 10 times over and then some .
I might also ad that this experience was the start for me of a long war of hatred with all forms of authority .
Thankfully it was a war I won !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was at High School I was caught by one of the deans making black powder in a science lab.
Instead of taking the opportunity to turn the incident in to a lesson in basic safety or chemistry this teacher went nuts.
I remember the science teacher trying to step in and do the right thing.
I was threatened with expulsion.
My parents were called.
I clearly remember him calling me amongst various things , 'A clear threat to society'.
What I was actually interested in at the time was model rocketry not bomb making.
But like any half smart 13 year old I was capable of both.
I figured since had labeled me in his tiny mind as a threat the onus was on me to deliver his nightmare.
The very next day this same teacher found under his chair in the teachers staff room exactly what he was afraid of.
A plastic lunch box containing two steel pipes a stereo counter and some simple electronics to drive it all.
It looked for all the world on first inspection like every bomb MacGyver has ever tried to diffuse.
Until you looked closer and saw that the metal tubes were packed with tissue.
I was told later that the teacher actually wet himself in the process of trying to diffuse it like the big hero that he was.
In those days where I lived we did not have any special response unit for these things.
He called the fire department.
The whole school was ordered to line up outside on a series of tennis courts.
In a strange way rather than confirming that he was right about me the incident merely confirmed that he was a complete idiot.
I remember one of the Fireman walking past holding the lunch box and laughing.
Anyway the point I was going to make was that if your going to label bright intelligent children as threats when they are merely exploring the world and not intent on hurting anyone then fully expect them to confirm your worst fears 10 times over and then some.
I might also ad that this experience was the start for me of a long war of hatred with all forms of authority.
Thankfully it was a war I won!</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Call themselves teachers?</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1263664500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Odds are if it looks like a bomb to the layman, it's probably a prop.</i> Note to laymen: if it's got a huge red digital display counting down the seconds until it goes "boom", just like every bomb you ever seen in a move or television show, then it almost certainly IS NOT a bomb. Seriously -- what terrorist that actually wanted to blow shit up would bother to wire up a huge, conspicuous countdown timer?<br> <br>
My daughter's school has a policy against bringing toys to school; that is probably the policy this kid violated. He almost certainly is not the one that needs counseling.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Odds are if it looks like a bomb to the layman , it 's probably a prop .
Note to laymen : if it 's got a huge red digital display counting down the seconds until it goes " boom " , just like every bomb you ever seen in a move or television show , then it almost certainly IS NOT a bomb .
Seriously -- what terrorist that actually wanted to blow shit up would bother to wire up a huge , conspicuous countdown timer ?
My daughter 's school has a policy against bringing toys to school ; that is probably the policy this kid violated .
He almost certainly is not the one that needs counseling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Odds are if it looks like a bomb to the layman, it's probably a prop.
Note to laymen: if it's got a huge red digital display counting down the seconds until it goes "boom", just like every bomb you ever seen in a move or television show, then it almost certainly IS NOT a bomb.
Seriously -- what terrorist that actually wanted to blow shit up would bother to wire up a huge, conspicuous countdown timer?
My daughter's school has a policy against bringing toys to school; that is probably the policy this kid violated.
He almost certainly is not the one that needs counseling.</sentencetext>
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	<title>babbits</title>
	<author>babbits</author>
	<datestamp>1263751260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The terrorists have won, when we give up sanity and the right to use our brains out of ignorance and stupidity.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The terrorists have won , when we give up sanity and the right to use our brains out of ignorance and stupidity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The terrorists have won, when we give up sanity and the right to use our brains out of ignorance and stupidity.</sentencetext>
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	<title>For the record</title>
	<author>pax humana</author>
	<datestamp>1263900360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From the article:
Both the student and his parents were "very cooperative" with authorities, Luque said. He said fire officials also went to the student's home and checked the garage to make sure items there were neither harmful nor explosive.

"There was nothing hazardous at the house," Luque said.

The student will not be prosecuted, but authorities were recommending that he and his parents get counseling, the spokesman said. The student violated school policies, but there was no criminal intent, Luque said.

"There will be no (criminal) charges whatsoever," Luque said.

Police and fire officials also will not seek to recover costs associated with responding to the incident, the spokesman said.

Luque said both the student and his parents were extremely upset.

"He was very shaken by the whole situation, as were his parents," Luque said.


from some other article:
Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the article : Both the student and his parents were " very cooperative " with authorities , Luque said .
He said fire officials also went to the student 's home and checked the garage to make sure items there were neither harmful nor explosive .
" There was nothing hazardous at the house , " Luque said .
The student will not be prosecuted , but authorities were recommending that he and his parents get counseling , the spokesman said .
The student violated school policies , but there was no criminal intent , Luque said .
" There will be no ( criminal ) charges whatsoever , " Luque said .
Police and fire officials also will not seek to recover costs associated with responding to the incident , the spokesman said .
Luque said both the student and his parents were extremely upset .
" He was very shaken by the whole situation , as were his parents , " Luque said .
from some other article : Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure .
Ratified 12/15/1791 .
The right of the people to be secure in their persons , houses , papers , and effects , against unreasonable searches and seizures , shall not be violated , and no Warrants shall issue , but upon probable cause , supported by Oath or affirmation , and particularly describing the place to be searched , and the persons or things to be seized .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the article:
Both the student and his parents were "very cooperative" with authorities, Luque said.
He said fire officials also went to the student's home and checked the garage to make sure items there were neither harmful nor explosive.
"There was nothing hazardous at the house," Luque said.
The student will not be prosecuted, but authorities were recommending that he and his parents get counseling, the spokesman said.
The student violated school policies, but there was no criminal intent, Luque said.
"There will be no (criminal) charges whatsoever," Luque said.
Police and fire officials also will not seek to recover costs associated with responding to the incident, the spokesman said.
Luque said both the student and his parents were extremely upset.
"He was very shaken by the whole situation, as were his parents," Luque said.
from some other article:
Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure.
Ratified 12/15/1791.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.</sentencetext>
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