<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_14_1818222</id>
	<title>Tynt Insight Is Watching You Cut and Paste</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1263493860000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>jerryasher writes <i>"In recent weeks I've noticed that when I copy and paste text from Wired and other websites, the pasted text has had the URL of the original website appended to it.  Cool, and utterly annoying, and how do I make that stop?  <a href="http://www1.tynt.com/see-whats-copied">Tynt Insight</a> is a piece of Javascript that sends what you copy to Tynt's webservers and adds the backlinks.  Tynt calls that a service for the site owner, <a href="http://mattbusse.com/tynt-tracer-useful-analytics-software-or-invasion-of-privacy/">many people call that a privacy invasion</a>. Worse, there are some reports that it sends not just what you copy, <a href="http://activerain.com/blogsview/1159317/have-you-tynt-ed-your-blog-yet-#5029815">but everything you select</a>. And Tynt provides no opt outs.  Not cookie-based, not IP-based, but stop-it-you-creeps-angry-phone-call-based. It ain't a pure useful service, and it ain't a pure privacy invasion.  But I sure wish they'd go away or have had the decency never to start up in the first place. I block it on Firefox with <a href="http://www.ghostery.com/">Ghostery</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>jerryasher writes " In recent weeks I 've noticed that when I copy and paste text from Wired and other websites , the pasted text has had the URL of the original website appended to it .
Cool , and utterly annoying , and how do I make that stop ?
Tynt Insight is a piece of Javascript that sends what you copy to Tynt 's webservers and adds the backlinks .
Tynt calls that a service for the site owner , many people call that a privacy invasion .
Worse , there are some reports that it sends not just what you copy , but everything you select .
And Tynt provides no opt outs .
Not cookie-based , not IP-based , but stop-it-you-creeps-angry-phone-call-based .
It ai n't a pure useful service , and it ai n't a pure privacy invasion .
But I sure wish they 'd go away or have had the decency never to start up in the first place .
I block it on Firefox with Ghostery .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>jerryasher writes "In recent weeks I've noticed that when I copy and paste text from Wired and other websites, the pasted text has had the URL of the original website appended to it.
Cool, and utterly annoying, and how do I make that stop?
Tynt Insight is a piece of Javascript that sends what you copy to Tynt's webservers and adds the backlinks.
Tynt calls that a service for the site owner, many people call that a privacy invasion.
Worse, there are some reports that it sends not just what you copy, but everything you select.
And Tynt provides no opt outs.
Not cookie-based, not IP-based, but stop-it-you-creeps-angry-phone-call-based.
It ain't a pure useful service, and it ain't a pure privacy invasion.
But I sure wish they'd go away or have had the decency never to start up in the first place.
I block it on Firefox with Ghostery.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30778846</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>Nyder</author>
	<datestamp>1263570540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I can't get it to work when I copy paste from Wired (must be something with my setup and javascript) <i>but</i> I will make the unpopular statement of saying that 1) you are copying and pasting Wired's content and 2) as early as high school I was taught that if I was copying information verbatim, I had better have some sort of reference (<a href="http://www.library.cornell.edu/resrch/citmanage/mla" title="cornell.edu" rel="nofollow">MLA preferred</a> [cornell.edu]).<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>Maybe you should of read the article.</p><p>The problem wasn't with copying and pasting, the problem is that when you highlight something, it sends that info to tynt about what you highlighted.<br>Thats the privacy invasion peeps are complaining about.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't get it to work when I copy paste from Wired ( must be something with my setup and javascript ) but I will make the unpopular statement of saying that 1 ) you are copying and pasting Wired 's content and 2 ) as early as high school I was taught that if I was copying information verbatim , I had better have some sort of reference ( MLA preferred [ cornell.edu ] ) .
...Maybe you should of read the article.The problem was n't with copying and pasting , the problem is that when you highlight something , it sends that info to tynt about what you highlighted.Thats the privacy invasion peeps are complaining about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't get it to work when I copy paste from Wired (must be something with my setup and javascript) but I will make the unpopular statement of saying that 1) you are copying and pasting Wired's content and 2) as early as high school I was taught that if I was copying information verbatim, I had better have some sort of reference (MLA preferred [cornell.edu]).
...Maybe you should of read the article.The problem wasn't with copying and pasting, the problem is that when you highlight something, it sends that info to tynt about what you highlighted.Thats the privacy invasion peeps are complaining about.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768448</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769260</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1263501300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about scripting it with XMLHttpRequest so it invades people&rsquo;s privacy in a less-annoying way?</p><p>*start.wav*, loading... every time I click is irritating as hell. I noticed it as soon as I tried clicking anywhere on Wired&rsquo;s articles.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about scripting it with XMLHttpRequest so it invades people    s privacy in a less-annoying way ?
* start.wav * , loading... every time I click is irritating as hell .
I noticed it as soon as I tried clicking anywhere on Wired    s articles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about scripting it with XMLHttpRequest so it invades people’s privacy in a less-annoying way?
*start.wav*, loading... every time I click is irritating as hell.
I noticed it as soon as I tried clicking anywhere on Wired’s articles.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768224</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263497820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's plain JS. It doesn't actually access the clipboard. It just tells what you're highlighting through mouse interaction.</p><p>In any case, I blacklist *.tynt.com in hosts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's plain JS .
It does n't actually access the clipboard .
It just tells what you 're highlighting through mouse interaction.In any case , I blacklist * .tynt.com in hosts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's plain JS.
It doesn't actually access the clipboard.
It just tells what you're highlighting through mouse interaction.In any case, I blacklist *.tynt.com in hosts.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768124</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768280</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263498000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is anyone else half-tempted to write a script to post back random text from Pride and Prejudice, or something to that effect?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is anyone else half-tempted to write a script to post back random text from Pride and Prejudice , or something to that effect ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is anyone else half-tempted to write a script to post back random text from Pride and Prejudice, or something to that effect?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768124</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771814</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Idbar</author>
	<datestamp>1263467820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And that rule worked quite well on ABP.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And that rule worked quite well on ABP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And that rule worked quite well on ABP.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768224</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771306</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>broken\_chaos</author>
	<datestamp>1263465540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The specific URL to block, in case you don't want to block absolutely everything from a domain, is:<br><tt>http://tcr.tynt.com/javascripts/Tracer.js</tt></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The specific URL to block , in case you do n't want to block absolutely everything from a domain , is : http : //tcr.tynt.com/javascripts/Tracer.js</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The specific URL to block, in case you don't want to block absolutely everything from a domain, is:http://tcr.tynt.com/javascripts/Tracer.js</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768224</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768982</id>
	<title>Re:Habits</title>
	<author>Jeng</author>
	<datestamp>1263500400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would think that the information you give them is even better than what they would get from someone else who does not select what they read.</p><p>After all, they know exactly what parts interests you.  It's not like your off selecting stuff your not reading.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would think that the information you give them is even better than what they would get from someone else who does not select what they read.After all , they know exactly what parts interests you .
It 's not like your off selecting stuff your not reading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would think that the information you give them is even better than what they would get from someone else who does not select what they read.After all, they know exactly what parts interests you.
It's not like your off selecting stuff your not reading.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770892</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>CodeBuster</author>
	<datestamp>1263464040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The NoScript addon also features regular expression filtering of urls to catch common xss attempts and block them. These filters can also be applied to sites that are otherwise allowed via the whitelist. I agree that one has to be knowledgeable to use NoScript, but it really does have a lot of features for knowledgeable users and it is almost certainly better than nothing for any user who is not a complete novice. From the wiki <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noscript" title="wikipedia.org">article</a> [wikipedia.org]:</p><p>"However NoScript supports also an optional blacklist mode: users can choose to enable scripts globally and disable them on selected sites which they do not trust. Even in this configuration, NoScript keeps providing a significant security enhancement because anti-XSS, anti-CSRF and anti-Clickjacking features remain active."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The NoScript addon also features regular expression filtering of urls to catch common xss attempts and block them .
These filters can also be applied to sites that are otherwise allowed via the whitelist .
I agree that one has to be knowledgeable to use NoScript , but it really does have a lot of features for knowledgeable users and it is almost certainly better than nothing for any user who is not a complete novice .
From the wiki article [ wikipedia.org ] : " However NoScript supports also an optional blacklist mode : users can choose to enable scripts globally and disable them on selected sites which they do not trust .
Even in this configuration , NoScript keeps providing a significant security enhancement because anti-XSS , anti-CSRF and anti-Clickjacking features remain active .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The NoScript addon also features regular expression filtering of urls to catch common xss attempts and block them.
These filters can also be applied to sites that are otherwise allowed via the whitelist.
I agree that one has to be knowledgeable to use NoScript, but it really does have a lot of features for knowledgeable users and it is almost certainly better than nothing for any user who is not a complete novice.
From the wiki article [wikipedia.org]:"However NoScript supports also an optional blacklist mode: users can choose to enable scripts globally and disable them on selected sites which they do not trust.
Even in this configuration, NoScript keeps providing a significant security enhancement because anti-XSS, anti-CSRF and anti-Clickjacking features remain active.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768932</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30776746</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>cybernanga</author>
	<datestamp>1263552480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>as early as high school I was taught that if I was copying information verbatim, I had better have some sort of reference (<a href="http://www.library.cornell.edu/resrch/citmanage/mla" title="cornell.edu" rel="nofollow">MLA preferred</a> [cornell.edu]).</p></div><p>This is perfectly true when you intend to quote the copied text in a paper or document you are writing that will be seen by other people. However, I often copy text from websites simply because I am interested, and want to keep a copy of an article locally, just in case something happens to the website.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>as early as high school I was taught that if I was copying information verbatim , I had better have some sort of reference ( MLA preferred [ cornell.edu ] ) .This is perfectly true when you intend to quote the copied text in a paper or document you are writing that will be seen by other people .
However , I often copy text from websites simply because I am interested , and want to keep a copy of an article locally , just in case something happens to the website .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as early as high school I was taught that if I was copying information verbatim, I had better have some sort of reference (MLA preferred [cornell.edu]).This is perfectly true when you intend to quote the copied text in a paper or document you are writing that will be seen by other people.
However, I often copy text from websites simply because I am interested, and want to keep a copy of an article locally, just in case something happens to the website.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768448</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768258</id>
	<title>Snopes</title>
	<author>Itninja</author>
	<datestamp>1263497940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Snopes was (is?) using java to prevent site viewers from right-clicking and selecting text at all (not to mention using java to present copious pop-up and pop-under ads). I had no idea until I was watching a friend go to Snopes in a browser without NoScript running. Showed him how to user get NoScript and now he is free to copy/paste text with impunity!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Snopes was ( is ?
) using java to prevent site viewers from right-clicking and selecting text at all ( not to mention using java to present copious pop-up and pop-under ads ) .
I had no idea until I was watching a friend go to Snopes in a browser without NoScript running .
Showed him how to user get NoScript and now he is free to copy/paste text with impunity !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Snopes was (is?
) using java to prevent site viewers from right-clicking and selecting text at all (not to mention using java to present copious pop-up and pop-under ads).
I had no idea until I was watching a friend go to Snopes in a browser without NoScript running.
Showed him how to user get NoScript and now he is free to copy/paste text with impunity!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30775000</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263487260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I work for Tynt.</p></div><p>Hopefully not for long. This is one of those times for a gut-check. Your company is evil. I'll let other people make my case in logic.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I work for Tynt.Hopefully not for long .
This is one of those times for a gut-check .
Your company is evil .
I 'll let other people make my case in logic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work for Tynt.Hopefully not for long.
This is one of those times for a gut-check.
Your company is evil.
I'll let other people make my case in logic.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768602</id>
	<title>Re:Why collect that data?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263499080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>The URL appending when cutting and pasting is easily defeated by pasting using the middle mouse button. That script still sends selection information, though. Can anybody tell me what this data is collected for? I don't see any value in it.</i> <br>
<br>
And the ability for most slashdotters to think beyond their own heads is made blindingly apparent yet again. Having some idea of what specific text people are highlighting or cutting/pasting from any given page is imminently useful. Hell, it can even be useful for a Linux HOWTO site -- the site owner could see that 10 out of every 15 people that visit the HOWTO always select the same block of text, which means that there are a shitload of people out there looking for that very specific piece of information. You could then move that block of text somewhere where it's more prominent, or add it to the FAQ, or whatever. I'm not saying they should be using this Tyntcrap to do it, but I'm merely pointing out how your failure to "see any value in it" is exactly that -- a failure of imagination on your part.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The URL appending when cutting and pasting is easily defeated by pasting using the middle mouse button .
That script still sends selection information , though .
Can anybody tell me what this data is collected for ?
I do n't see any value in it .
And the ability for most slashdotters to think beyond their own heads is made blindingly apparent yet again .
Having some idea of what specific text people are highlighting or cutting/pasting from any given page is imminently useful .
Hell , it can even be useful for a Linux HOWTO site -- the site owner could see that 10 out of every 15 people that visit the HOWTO always select the same block of text , which means that there are a shitload of people out there looking for that very specific piece of information .
You could then move that block of text somewhere where it 's more prominent , or add it to the FAQ , or whatever .
I 'm not saying they should be using this Tyntcrap to do it , but I 'm merely pointing out how your failure to " see any value in it " is exactly that -- a failure of imagination on your part .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The URL appending when cutting and pasting is easily defeated by pasting using the middle mouse button.
That script still sends selection information, though.
Can anybody tell me what this data is collected for?
I don't see any value in it.
And the ability for most slashdotters to think beyond their own heads is made blindingly apparent yet again.
Having some idea of what specific text people are highlighting or cutting/pasting from any given page is imminently useful.
Hell, it can even be useful for a Linux HOWTO site -- the site owner could see that 10 out of every 15 people that visit the HOWTO always select the same block of text, which means that there are a shitload of people out there looking for that very specific piece of information.
You could then move that block of text somewhere where it's more prominent, or add it to the FAQ, or whatever.
I'm not saying they should be using this Tyntcrap to do it, but I'm merely pointing out how your failure to "see any value in it" is exactly that -- a failure of imagination on your part.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768360</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769546</id>
	<title>Re:Snopes</title>
	<author>shamborfosi</author>
	<datestamp>1263502200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>Here's the script snopes uses:<br><br>var omitformtags=["input", "textarea", "select"]<br>omitformtags=omitformtags.join("|")<br><br>function disableselect(e){<br>if (omitformtags.indexOf(e.target.tagName.toLowerCase())==-1)<br>return false<br>}<br><br>function reEnable(){<br>return true<br>}<br>if (typeof document.onselectstart!="undefined")<br>document.onselectstart=new Function ("return false")<br>else{<br>document.onmousedown=disableselect<br>document.onmouseup=reEnable<br>}<br><br>So you can see that with the exception of select input and textareas, they disable selection when the mouse is pressed and re-enable it when the mouse is released.</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's the script snopes uses : var omitformtags = [ " input " , " textarea " , " select " ] omitformtags = omitformtags.join ( " | " ) function disableselect ( e ) { if ( omitformtags.indexOf ( e.target.tagName.toLowerCase ( ) ) = = -1 ) return false } function reEnable ( ) { return true } if ( typeof document.onselectstart ! = " undefined " ) document.onselectstart = new Function ( " return false " ) else { document.onmousedown = disableselectdocument.onmouseup = reEnable } So you can see that with the exception of select input and textareas , they disable selection when the mouse is pressed and re-enable it when the mouse is released .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's the script snopes uses:var omitformtags=["input", "textarea", "select"]omitformtags=omitformtags.join("|")function disableselect(e){if (omitformtags.indexOf(e.target.tagName.toLowerCase())==-1)return false}function reEnable(){return true}if (typeof document.onselectstart!="undefined")document.onselectstart=new Function ("return false")else{document.onmousedown=disableselectdocument.onmouseup=reEnable}So you can see that with the exception of select input and textareas, they disable selection when the mouse is pressed and re-enable it when the mouse is released.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768258</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768672</id>
	<title>Mouse clicks</title>
	<author>QuoteMstr</author>
	<datestamp>1263499320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A website can monitor practically anything it wants. One idea is to record the user's mouse movements and report the areas he mouses-over the most (presumably for site optimization).</p><p>Incidentally, this is one reason Flash is evil: Flash provides 1) hidden cookies, and 2) clipboard access. It's evil.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A website can monitor practically anything it wants .
One idea is to record the user 's mouse movements and report the areas he mouses-over the most ( presumably for site optimization ) .Incidentally , this is one reason Flash is evil : Flash provides 1 ) hidden cookies , and 2 ) clipboard access .
It 's evil .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A website can monitor practically anything it wants.
One idea is to record the user's mouse movements and report the areas he mouses-over the most (presumably for site optimization).Incidentally, this is one reason Flash is evil: Flash provides 1) hidden cookies, and 2) clipboard access.
It's evil.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30775278</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263490140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How do you edit the hosts file in Windows 7?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How do you edit the hosts file in Windows 7 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do you edit the hosts file in Windows 7?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768224</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768920</id>
	<title>Re:Snopes</title>
	<author>Jose</author>
	<datestamp>1263500220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>a lot of places do this by watching your mouse actions (the right click). if this is the case, and if you are using Windows, another way around it is to use shift-F10 instead of the right-click.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>a lot of places do this by watching your mouse actions ( the right click ) .
if this is the case , and if you are using Windows , another way around it is to use shift-F10 instead of the right-click .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a lot of places do this by watching your mouse actions (the right click).
if this is the case, and if you are using Windows, another way around it is to use shift-F10 instead of the right-click.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768258</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30774040</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263479760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do this too (although more often triple-clicking).  It leads me to not use sites like the New York Times that open a dictionary or some such useless behaviour every time you select text.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do this too ( although more often triple-clicking ) .
It leads me to not use sites like the New York Times that open a dictionary or some such useless behaviour every time you select text .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do this too (although more often triple-clicking).
It leads me to not use sites like the New York Times that open a dictionary or some such useless behaviour every time you select text.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30772092</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>schon</author>
	<datestamp>1263469260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>you are copying and pasting Wired's content</p> </div><p>Wow, considering there are only 7 words there, it's amazing that you managed to fit at least four logic errors in there!</p><p>First of all, the text does not "belong" to anyone - Wired may (or may not, see point 2) have a limited legal right to prevent copying of the text, but that does not equate to ownership of the material - and <a href="http://fee.org/articles/tgif/intellectual-property/" title="fee.org">it's dangerous to think that it does</a> [fee.org].</p><p>Second, the copyright doesn't necessarily belong to Wired - it could belong to one (or more) of their authors or contributors, or <i>even one of their advertisers</i>.</p><p>Third, this has nothing to do with copying.  If you read the fscking summary, you'll see that this invasion of privacy takes place <i>even if the text is never copied to the clipboard</i>.</p><p>Fourth, as it has nothing to do with copying, it also has nothing to do with pasting.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>you are copying and pasting Wired 's content Wow , considering there are only 7 words there , it 's amazing that you managed to fit at least four logic errors in there ! First of all , the text does not " belong " to anyone - Wired may ( or may not , see point 2 ) have a limited legal right to prevent copying of the text , but that does not equate to ownership of the material - and it 's dangerous to think that it does [ fee.org ] .Second , the copyright does n't necessarily belong to Wired - it could belong to one ( or more ) of their authors or contributors , or even one of their advertisers.Third , this has nothing to do with copying .
If you read the fscking summary , you 'll see that this invasion of privacy takes place even if the text is never copied to the clipboard.Fourth , as it has nothing to do with copying , it also has nothing to do with pasting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you are copying and pasting Wired's content Wow, considering there are only 7 words there, it's amazing that you managed to fit at least four logic errors in there!First of all, the text does not "belong" to anyone - Wired may (or may not, see point 2) have a limited legal right to prevent copying of the text, but that does not equate to ownership of the material - and it's dangerous to think that it does [fee.org].Second, the copyright doesn't necessarily belong to Wired - it could belong to one (or more) of their authors or contributors, or even one of their advertisers.Third, this has nothing to do with copying.
If you read the fscking summary, you'll see that this invasion of privacy takes place even if the text is never copied to the clipboard.Fourth, as it has nothing to do with copying, it also has nothing to do with pasting.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768448</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768360</id>
	<title>Why collect that data?</title>
	<author>gmueckl</author>
	<datestamp>1263498240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The URL appending when cutting and pasting is easily defeated by pasting using the middle mouse button. That script still sends selection information, though. Can anybody tell me what this data is collected for? I don't see any value in it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The URL appending when cutting and pasting is easily defeated by pasting using the middle mouse button .
That script still sends selection information , though .
Can anybody tell me what this data is collected for ?
I do n't see any value in it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The URL appending when cutting and pasting is easily defeated by pasting using the middle mouse button.
That script still sends selection information, though.
Can anybody tell me what this data is collected for?
I don't see any value in it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768160</id>
	<title>If its just JS break it.</title>
	<author>DarkOx</author>
	<datestamp>1263497700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If its just J/S it must be useing the browser to get or post the information back to their web server.  Figure out what there net block is and black configure your firewall to send you a nice reset packet anytime your box tries to hit it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If its just J/S it must be useing the browser to get or post the information back to their web server .
Figure out what there net block is and black configure your firewall to send you a nice reset packet anytime your box tries to hit it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If its just J/S it must be useing the browser to get or post the information back to their web server.
Figure out what there net block is and black configure your firewall to send you a nice reset packet anytime your box tries to hit it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769946</id>
	<title>DomainCage</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263460740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The firefox extension DomainCage looks promising, unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work for me? Anybody else have it working?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The firefox extension DomainCage looks promising , unfortunately , it does n't seem to work for me ?
Anybody else have it working ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The firefox extension DomainCage looks promising, unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work for me?
Anybody else have it working?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770360</id>
	<title>I used to have NoScript</title>
	<author>TorKlingberg</author>
	<datestamp>1263462240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I used to have NoScript with default to not run scripts, but I have given up. It is doable as long as you just browse the web, though you will have to whitelist a lot of sites to get them to work and embedded video will often just not play. The real problems come when you want to use travel booking sites, corporate career sites, banking and many online shopping sites. Those require a lot of JavaScript and will send you around between different domains and servers in ways that appear to be indistinguishable from XSS attacks. You cannot know before you start either, there will just be a blank page in the middle.</p><p>I still use NoScript, but in the blacklist mode. It stops some common attacks and lets me block annoying scripts such as in the article here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to have NoScript with default to not run scripts , but I have given up .
It is doable as long as you just browse the web , though you will have to whitelist a lot of sites to get them to work and embedded video will often just not play .
The real problems come when you want to use travel booking sites , corporate career sites , banking and many online shopping sites .
Those require a lot of JavaScript and will send you around between different domains and servers in ways that appear to be indistinguishable from XSS attacks .
You can not know before you start either , there will just be a blank page in the middle.I still use NoScript , but in the blacklist mode .
It stops some common attacks and lets me block annoying scripts such as in the article here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to have NoScript with default to not run scripts, but I have given up.
It is doable as long as you just browse the web, though you will have to whitelist a lot of sites to get them to work and embedded video will often just not play.
The real problems come when you want to use travel booking sites, corporate career sites, banking and many online shopping sites.
Those require a lot of JavaScript and will send you around between different domains and servers in ways that appear to be indistinguishable from XSS attacks.
You cannot know before you start either, there will just be a blank page in the middle.I still use NoScript, but in the blacklist mode.
It stops some common attacks and lets me block annoying scripts such as in the article here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768096</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771842</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263468000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about instead of creating some sort of opt out crap that mostly wont work 100\% anyway...</p><p>You just give us a nice little list of all servers that anything will be sent to.  ever.</p><p>And we can add it to our hosts file and pretend you don't exist at all?</p><p>It is the simple solution.  And you could publish that list right now.   As in right here on slashdot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about instead of creating some sort of opt out crap that mostly wont work 100 \ % anyway...You just give us a nice little list of all servers that anything will be sent to .
ever.And we can add it to our hosts file and pretend you do n't exist at all ? It is the simple solution .
And you could publish that list right now .
As in right here on slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about instead of creating some sort of opt out crap that mostly wont work 100\% anyway...You just give us a nice little list of all servers that anything will be sent to.
ever.And we can add it to our hosts file and pretend you don't exist at all?It is the simple solution.
And you could publish that list right now.
As in right here on slashdot.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30774344</id>
	<title>Re:It's a Feature</title>
	<author>JohnFen</author>
	<datestamp>1263481920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't understand what the big deal is. I'm stealing someone's content to quote verbatim in an email, or something like that, they have the right to know they're being quoted. Maybe not the "right", but they should have the ability.</p></div><p>No, they shouldn't. First of all, it is perfectly possible, and extremely common, to quote someone's content verbatim and still remain within both the letter and the spirit of the law. It's called "fair use." (Even if you are engaging in copyright violation, yuo are NOT "stealing" anything, either legally or ethically. You are breaking the law, but a different law.)</p><p>The content creator has no natural right to track all uses of that content. If I quote a paragraph in an email as part of a larger discussion, the original author has no right, and should not expect, to be notified about it. Period. If a mechanism is installed that notifies the creator without the participants being aware of it, that is spying and that is evil.</p><p>(I know that tynt doesn't spy on email, I'm just running with the commenter's example.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand what the big deal is .
I 'm stealing someone 's content to quote verbatim in an email , or something like that , they have the right to know they 're being quoted .
Maybe not the " right " , but they should have the ability.No , they should n't .
First of all , it is perfectly possible , and extremely common , to quote someone 's content verbatim and still remain within both the letter and the spirit of the law .
It 's called " fair use .
" ( Even if you are engaging in copyright violation , yuo are NOT " stealing " anything , either legally or ethically .
You are breaking the law , but a different law .
) The content creator has no natural right to track all uses of that content .
If I quote a paragraph in an email as part of a larger discussion , the original author has no right , and should not expect , to be notified about it .
Period. If a mechanism is installed that notifies the creator without the participants being aware of it , that is spying and that is evil .
( I know that tynt does n't spy on email , I 'm just running with the commenter 's example .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand what the big deal is.
I'm stealing someone's content to quote verbatim in an email, or something like that, they have the right to know they're being quoted.
Maybe not the "right", but they should have the ability.No, they shouldn't.
First of all, it is perfectly possible, and extremely common, to quote someone's content verbatim and still remain within both the letter and the spirit of the law.
It's called "fair use.
" (Even if you are engaging in copyright violation, yuo are NOT "stealing" anything, either legally or ethically.
You are breaking the law, but a different law.
)The content creator has no natural right to track all uses of that content.
If I quote a paragraph in an email as part of a larger discussion, the original author has no right, and should not expect, to be notified about it.
Period. If a mechanism is installed that notifies the creator without the participants being aware of it, that is spying and that is evil.
(I know that tynt doesn't spy on email, I'm just running with the commenter's example.
)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768774</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768806</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>NeoSkandranon</author>
	<datestamp>1263499860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I found that when i was using noscript firefox's responsiveness plummeted and it often ballooned up to 600+ mb of space when tabs having javascript going (say, MSDN, gmail or slashdot) were left open.  Disabling noscript immediately solved the issue.</p><p>I'd love to go back to using it, but such behavior really isn't acceptable to me. Any ideas how to streamline it a bit? (OP or anyone else reading)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I found that when i was using noscript firefox 's responsiveness plummeted and it often ballooned up to 600 + mb of space when tabs having javascript going ( say , MSDN , gmail or slashdot ) were left open .
Disabling noscript immediately solved the issue.I 'd love to go back to using it , but such behavior really is n't acceptable to me .
Any ideas how to streamline it a bit ?
( OP or anyone else reading )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I found that when i was using noscript firefox's responsiveness plummeted and it often ballooned up to 600+ mb of space when tabs having javascript going (say, MSDN, gmail or slashdot) were left open.
Disabling noscript immediately solved the issue.I'd love to go back to using it, but such behavior really isn't acceptable to me.
Any ideas how to streamline it a bit?
(OP or anyone else reading)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768096</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30776444</id>
	<title>Re:Other script blockers will work, as well</title>
	<author>SharpFang</author>
	<datestamp>1263548760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will adding <a href="http://.tynt.com/*" title="tynt.com">http://.tynt.com/*</a> [tynt.com] to adblock suffice?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will adding http : //.tynt.com/ * [ tynt.com ] to adblock suffice ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will adding http://.tynt.com/* [tynt.com] to adblock suffice?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768142</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769788</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263460080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>comparing apples and oranges.</p></div><p>You said the magic words!</p><p>Gentlemen, I repost <a href="http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=802" title="theamericanview.com" rel="nofollow">Apples and Oranges: A Comparison</a> [theamericanview.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>comparing apples and oranges.You said the magic words ! Gentlemen , I repost Apples and Oranges : A Comparison [ theamericanview.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>comparing apples and oranges.You said the magic words!Gentlemen, I repost Apples and Oranges: A Comparison [theamericanview.com]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769100</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768184</id>
	<title>Isn't disabling javascript an opt-out?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263497760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree that the talk-back makes me a bit uncomfortable, but ultimately anything that makes it to my browser window is under my control.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree that the talk-back makes me a bit uncomfortable , but ultimately anything that makes it to my browser window is under my control .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree that the talk-back makes me a bit uncomfortable, but ultimately anything that makes it to my browser window is under my control.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768370</id>
	<title>Re:Habits</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263498300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm a "highlight while reading" guy too.  That's what first made me notice Tynt, and <i>that's</i> what made me swich back to Firefox (w/ NoScript) from Chrome.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a " highlight while reading " guy too .
That 's what first made me notice Tynt , and that 's what made me swich back to Firefox ( w/ NoScript ) from Chrome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a "highlight while reading" guy too.
That's what first made me notice Tynt, and that's what made me swich back to Firefox (w/ NoScript) from Chrome.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30778506</id>
	<title>Re:hosts file seems to work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263568800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>alternatively, you could clean it up with:<br>127.0.0.1  www1.tynt.com  tynt.com  www.tynt.com   w1.tcr112.tynt.com</p><p>AC</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>alternatively , you could clean it up with : 127.0.0.1 www1.tynt.com tynt.com www.tynt.com w1.tcr112.tynt.comAC</tokentext>
<sentencetext>alternatively, you could clean it up with:127.0.0.1  www1.tynt.com  tynt.com  www.tynt.com   w1.tcr112.tynt.comAC</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768550</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30778220</id>
	<title>Re:Snopes</title>
	<author>Fred\_A</author>
	<datestamp>1263567180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Hey boys! This feller here is calling himself "IT Ninja" but he doesn't know the difference between java and javascript! I say we run him outa slashdot!</p></div><p>Get the feathers, I'm heating the tar !</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey boys !
This feller here is calling himself " IT Ninja " but he does n't know the difference between java and javascript !
I say we run him outa slashdot ! Get the feathers , I 'm heating the tar !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey boys!
This feller here is calling himself "IT Ninja" but he doesn't know the difference between java and javascript!
I say we run him outa slashdot!Get the feathers, I'm heating the tar !
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768962</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770302</id>
	<title>perfect security is simplistic</title>
	<author>Onymous Coward</author>
	<datestamp>1263462000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Giant problem?  Perhaps in the context of <em>perfect security</em>.  But there is no such thing.</p><p>I use YouTube without JavaScript (I also use a video downloader add-on).</p><p>Anyway, if I want to view a particular YouTube page, I press the NoScript "temporarily allow" button.  Am I then subject to every possible XSS that could be happening at YouTube across the entire site or every time I visit the site?  No.  Am I subject to as much vulnerability as if I always visited YouTube with JavaScript enabled?  Not nearly.</p><p><em>There is substantial security <b>gain</b>.</em></p><p>Saying there's a "giant problem" with NoScript is like saying there's a "giant problem" in being given $200 when you're wanting $20,000.  Fine, give me that $200, then.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Giant problem ?
Perhaps in the context of perfect security .
But there is no such thing.I use YouTube without JavaScript ( I also use a video downloader add-on ) .Anyway , if I want to view a particular YouTube page , I press the NoScript " temporarily allow " button .
Am I then subject to every possible XSS that could be happening at YouTube across the entire site or every time I visit the site ?
No. Am I subject to as much vulnerability as if I always visited YouTube with JavaScript enabled ?
Not nearly.There is substantial security gain.Saying there 's a " giant problem " with NoScript is like saying there 's a " giant problem " in being given $ 200 when you 're wanting $ 20,000 .
Fine , give me that $ 200 , then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Giant problem?
Perhaps in the context of perfect security.
But there is no such thing.I use YouTube without JavaScript (I also use a video downloader add-on).Anyway, if I want to view a particular YouTube page, I press the NoScript "temporarily allow" button.
Am I then subject to every possible XSS that could be happening at YouTube across the entire site or every time I visit the site?
No.  Am I subject to as much vulnerability as if I always visited YouTube with JavaScript enabled?
Not nearly.There is substantial security gain.Saying there's a "giant problem" with NoScript is like saying there's a "giant problem" in being given $200 when you're wanting $20,000.
Fine, give me that $200, then.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768932</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30772686</id>
	<title>Re:JS messing with clipboard</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1263472020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>My first thought was that the browser shouldn't even allow that. But since each of the individual components (looking at the selection, capturing keystrokes, writing the clipboard) can be used in JS for useful things</p></div><p>What useful things?</p><p>In any case, it is a fallacious argument. Running arbitrary native code, for example, can also be "used for useful things". It doesn't mean it's a good idea for browsers to provide this ability.</p><p>Now, mind you, someone somewhere might just need that, and that's why we have browser plugins, which can provide any such thing if needed. But supported out of the box, and turned on by default? It's insane.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>My first thought was that the browser should n't even allow that .
But since each of the individual components ( looking at the selection , capturing keystrokes , writing the clipboard ) can be used in JS for useful thingsWhat useful things ? In any case , it is a fallacious argument .
Running arbitrary native code , for example , can also be " used for useful things " .
It does n't mean it 's a good idea for browsers to provide this ability.Now , mind you , someone somewhere might just need that , and that 's why we have browser plugins , which can provide any such thing if needed .
But supported out of the box , and turned on by default ?
It 's insane .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My first thought was that the browser shouldn't even allow that.
But since each of the individual components (looking at the selection, capturing keystrokes, writing the clipboard) can be used in JS for useful thingsWhat useful things?In any case, it is a fallacious argument.
Running arbitrary native code, for example, can also be "used for useful things".
It doesn't mean it's a good idea for browsers to provide this ability.Now, mind you, someone somewhere might just need that, and that's why we have browser plugins, which can provide any such thing if needed.
But supported out of the box, and turned on by default?
It's insane.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769728</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263459720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When you do that, you look like a fool with your pants on the ground.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When you do that , you look like a fool with your pants on the ground .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you do that, you look like a fool with your pants on the ground.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768096</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769412</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263501780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"but I will make the unpopular statement of saying that 1) you are copying and pasting Wired's content and 2) as early as high school I was taught that if I was copying information verbatim, I had better have some sort of reference (MLA preferred [cornell.edu])."</p><p>With such a citation, there is no legal or other problem with using such an excerpt.  And for informal stuff or where the linkage is automatic (e.g., this post of mine that quotes yours is linked to yours via slashdot's comment system), it's unnecessary.  If Tynt automatically added something like "Pasted from URL: http://... etc." to the text on the clipboard to help people avoid plagiarism, that would be genuinely useful and I'd have no problem with that aspect.  Something like this packaged with configuration options would make a great browser plugin.</p><p>It's the tracking that bugs me.  Why should you or, let's hypothetically say, the slashdot admins have any right to know that I did cut-and-paste part of your posting <i>unless</i> I make that quote public (e.g., by posting it myself)?  If I want to cut-and-paste a bit of your prose into another file for whatever purpose (reading offline?), so what?  As long as I'm not distributing it further, why does it matter?  You publicly posted your comment and you expect that people are going to read and use it somehow.  It's being copied off the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. server and onto people's machines everywhere.  It has to work that way.</p><p>As for tracking who accesses a web page on a server and what's their IP or geographic location?  Fair game.  It's part of the delivery process and monitoring like that is expected.  But exactly what I cut-and-paste on my computer screen <i>once the page is delivered here</i> should be my own business, not the server's.  This tracking activity using Tynt is monitoring of user activities on the CLIENT side of things.  It's a sneaky trick to embed JavaScript that monitors activity for reasons other than what is required to display the web page properly.  I don't like it at all.  At the very least its use should be disclosed on a web site.</p><p>What might be fun would be to write a browser plugin that would randomly crawl and cut-and-paste bits of a website to pull down the relevancy of this kind of information even if it is collected from the client.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" but I will make the unpopular statement of saying that 1 ) you are copying and pasting Wired 's content and 2 ) as early as high school I was taught that if I was copying information verbatim , I had better have some sort of reference ( MLA preferred [ cornell.edu ] ) .
" With such a citation , there is no legal or other problem with using such an excerpt .
And for informal stuff or where the linkage is automatic ( e.g. , this post of mine that quotes yours is linked to yours via slashdot 's comment system ) , it 's unnecessary .
If Tynt automatically added something like " Pasted from URL : http : //.. .
etc. " to the text on the clipboard to help people avoid plagiarism , that would be genuinely useful and I 'd have no problem with that aspect .
Something like this packaged with configuration options would make a great browser plugin.It 's the tracking that bugs me .
Why should you or , let 's hypothetically say , the slashdot admins have any right to know that I did cut-and-paste part of your posting unless I make that quote public ( e.g. , by posting it myself ) ?
If I want to cut-and-paste a bit of your prose into another file for whatever purpose ( reading offline ?
) , so what ?
As long as I 'm not distributing it further , why does it matter ?
You publicly posted your comment and you expect that people are going to read and use it somehow .
It 's being copied off the / .
server and onto people 's machines everywhere .
It has to work that way.As for tracking who accesses a web page on a server and what 's their IP or geographic location ?
Fair game .
It 's part of the delivery process and monitoring like that is expected .
But exactly what I cut-and-paste on my computer screen once the page is delivered here should be my own business , not the server 's .
This tracking activity using Tynt is monitoring of user activities on the CLIENT side of things .
It 's a sneaky trick to embed JavaScript that monitors activity for reasons other than what is required to display the web page properly .
I do n't like it at all .
At the very least its use should be disclosed on a web site.What might be fun would be to write a browser plugin that would randomly crawl and cut-and-paste bits of a website to pull down the relevancy of this kind of information even if it is collected from the client .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"but I will make the unpopular statement of saying that 1) you are copying and pasting Wired's content and 2) as early as high school I was taught that if I was copying information verbatim, I had better have some sort of reference (MLA preferred [cornell.edu]).
"With such a citation, there is no legal or other problem with using such an excerpt.
And for informal stuff or where the linkage is automatic (e.g., this post of mine that quotes yours is linked to yours via slashdot's comment system), it's unnecessary.
If Tynt automatically added something like "Pasted from URL: http://...
etc." to the text on the clipboard to help people avoid plagiarism, that would be genuinely useful and I'd have no problem with that aspect.
Something like this packaged with configuration options would make a great browser plugin.It's the tracking that bugs me.
Why should you or, let's hypothetically say, the slashdot admins have any right to know that I did cut-and-paste part of your posting unless I make that quote public (e.g., by posting it myself)?
If I want to cut-and-paste a bit of your prose into another file for whatever purpose (reading offline?
), so what?
As long as I'm not distributing it further, why does it matter?
You publicly posted your comment and you expect that people are going to read and use it somehow.
It's being copied off the /.
server and onto people's machines everywhere.
It has to work that way.As for tracking who accesses a web page on a server and what's their IP or geographic location?
Fair game.
It's part of the delivery process and monitoring like that is expected.
But exactly what I cut-and-paste on my computer screen once the page is delivered here should be my own business, not the server's.
This tracking activity using Tynt is monitoring of user activities on the CLIENT side of things.
It's a sneaky trick to embed JavaScript that monitors activity for reasons other than what is required to display the web page properly.
I don't like it at all.
At the very least its use should be disclosed on a web site.What might be fun would be to write a browser plugin that would randomly crawl and cut-and-paste bits of a website to pull down the relevancy of this kind of information even if it is collected from the client.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769276</id>
	<title>Re:Quick and easy "plaintextify" for Windows</title>
	<author>Joce640k</author>
	<datestamp>1263501360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No good for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. readers - Model M keyboards don't have a Windows key.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No good for / .
readers - Model M keyboards do n't have a Windows key .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No good for /.
readers - Model M keyboards don't have a Windows key.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768586</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768630</id>
	<title>I'm torn on this one ...</title>
	<author>abbynormal brain</author>
	<datestamp>1263499200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We seem to be moving into a "corporate" model where everyone can use anyone's material without worry about plagiarism because - after all - it belongs to the company. The difference is, when I write a good piece of something for the company and it is re-used - I get paid. Not always so outside of corporate.</p><p>Concerning The Software and People Using It:<br>I don't think the software is evil. I think it helps those who do honest hard work. And if someone happens to choose this software and you don't like it, don't use their stuff. And if you do use their stuff, give them the goddamn credit.</p><p>Concerning These Types of Software:<br>And we should continue keeping companies like this in check by discussing them just like this. For now, we can still vote with our feet and wallets.</p><p>Concerning Hobbits:<br>Well, you know that story<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We seem to be moving into a " corporate " model where everyone can use anyone 's material without worry about plagiarism because - after all - it belongs to the company .
The difference is , when I write a good piece of something for the company and it is re-used - I get paid .
Not always so outside of corporate.Concerning The Software and People Using It : I do n't think the software is evil .
I think it helps those who do honest hard work .
And if someone happens to choose this software and you do n't like it , do n't use their stuff .
And if you do use their stuff , give them the goddamn credit.Concerning These Types of Software : And we should continue keeping companies like this in check by discussing them just like this .
For now , we can still vote with our feet and wallets.Concerning Hobbits : Well , you know that story .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We seem to be moving into a "corporate" model where everyone can use anyone's material without worry about plagiarism because - after all - it belongs to the company.
The difference is, when I write a good piece of something for the company and it is re-used - I get paid.
Not always so outside of corporate.Concerning The Software and People Using It:I don't think the software is evil.
I think it helps those who do honest hard work.
And if someone happens to choose this software and you don't like it, don't use their stuff.
And if you do use their stuff, give them the goddamn credit.Concerning These Types of Software:And we should continue keeping companies like this in check by discussing them just like this.
For now, we can still vote with our feet and wallets.Concerning Hobbits:Well, you know that story ...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30786544</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263564780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your service is the worst kind of shit, and I've blocked it.</p><p>When some clever script kiddie bashes together something to fill your servers with garbage data, your company will die.  You have no sensible way to defend against this, since you rely on self-reporting from end-user browsers.  The script can just load itself up with text from the sites you monitor, and let it rip.  Get the 4chan kiddies to run the script for the lulz and you're gone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your service is the worst kind of shit , and I 've blocked it.When some clever script kiddie bashes together something to fill your servers with garbage data , your company will die .
You have no sensible way to defend against this , since you rely on self-reporting from end-user browsers .
The script can just load itself up with text from the sites you monitor , and let it rip .
Get the 4chan kiddies to run the script for the lulz and you 're gone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your service is the worst kind of shit, and I've blocked it.When some clever script kiddie bashes together something to fill your servers with garbage data, your company will die.
You have no sensible way to defend against this, since you rely on self-reporting from end-user browsers.
The script can just load itself up with text from the sites you monitor, and let it rip.
Get the 4chan kiddies to run the script for the lulz and you're gone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769674</id>
	<title>wondering</title>
	<author>KharmaWidow</author>
	<datestamp>1263502740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>so after reading a mess of comments here  I wonder if they are storing the content with an ip or just processing it and pushing it back? Yes, this is a privacy concern, but so is copying copyright protected works. A random web surfer should be covered by Fair Use... but what if the entire document is copyied. (I do this when I know the source takes it off the web at a later date - mostly for discussing politics. I hate it when my sources disappear.)</p><p>We are never truly anonymous. Web server logs store every item we view and our ip address. I am not sure how this is a greater intrusion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>so after reading a mess of comments here I wonder if they are storing the content with an ip or just processing it and pushing it back ?
Yes , this is a privacy concern , but so is copying copyright protected works .
A random web surfer should be covered by Fair Use... but what if the entire document is copyied .
( I do this when I know the source takes it off the web at a later date - mostly for discussing politics .
I hate it when my sources disappear .
) We are never truly anonymous .
Web server logs store every item we view and our ip address .
I am not sure how this is a greater intrusion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so after reading a mess of comments here  I wonder if they are storing the content with an ip or just processing it and pushing it back?
Yes, this is a privacy concern, but so is copying copyright protected works.
A random web surfer should be covered by Fair Use... but what if the entire document is copyied.
(I do this when I know the source takes it off the web at a later date - mostly for discussing politics.
I hate it when my sources disappear.
)We are never truly anonymous.
Web server logs store every item we view and our ip address.
I am not sure how this is a greater intrusion.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770030</id>
	<title>Re:Other script blockers will work, as well</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1263460980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not in my NoScript whitelist (just checked). But anyway, even if it were, RequestPolicy would reliably block it anyways.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not in my NoScript whitelist ( just checked ) .
But anyway , even if it were , RequestPolicy would reliably block it anyways .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not in my NoScript whitelist (just checked).
But anyway, even if it were, RequestPolicy would reliably block it anyways.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769582</id>
	<title>Re:hosts file seems to work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263502320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On a related note and of interest to anyone thinking about following your flawed implementation of a good practice. From Wikipedia:</p><p>Often, the local (loopback) address 127.0.0.1 is used for such purposes, but has been proved and is also shown to be a poor choice because:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Some programs will run services on the loopback address.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * If you are running a web-server on your machine, you will receive unexpected hits from the browser which may hinder your server development and maintenance, including performance (statistics may also be skewed). Besides, the server may react unpredictably if a different server is running on port 80.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Some programs which have to deal with local and remote traffic may act strangely or report errors (e.g. ICSI Netalyzr or NoScript) when external requests are redirected to the local address.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * 127.0.0.1 tries to automatically connect to the dead-end destination which wastes a bit of unnecessary time and delays performance slightly.</p><p>A more suitable choice is to use a truly invalid address, for example 255.0.0.0, as they are automatically invalid as a TCP endpoint. Apart from the above benefits these truly invalid addresses also employ the same speed benefits too since communication is immediately dropped.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On a related note and of interest to anyone thinking about following your flawed implementation of a good practice .
From Wikipedia : Often , the local ( loopback ) address 127.0.0.1 is used for such purposes , but has been proved and is also shown to be a poor choice because :         * Some programs will run services on the loopback address .
        * If you are running a web-server on your machine , you will receive unexpected hits from the browser which may hinder your server development and maintenance , including performance ( statistics may also be skewed ) .
Besides , the server may react unpredictably if a different server is running on port 80 .
        * Some programs which have to deal with local and remote traffic may act strangely or report errors ( e.g .
ICSI Netalyzr or NoScript ) when external requests are redirected to the local address .
        * 127.0.0.1 tries to automatically connect to the dead-end destination which wastes a bit of unnecessary time and delays performance slightly.A more suitable choice is to use a truly invalid address , for example 255.0.0.0 , as they are automatically invalid as a TCP endpoint .
Apart from the above benefits these truly invalid addresses also employ the same speed benefits too since communication is immediately dropped .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On a related note and of interest to anyone thinking about following your flawed implementation of a good practice.
From Wikipedia:Often, the local (loopback) address 127.0.0.1 is used for such purposes, but has been proved and is also shown to be a poor choice because:
        * Some programs will run services on the loopback address.
        * If you are running a web-server on your machine, you will receive unexpected hits from the browser which may hinder your server development and maintenance, including performance (statistics may also be skewed).
Besides, the server may react unpredictably if a different server is running on port 80.
        * Some programs which have to deal with local and remote traffic may act strangely or report errors (e.g.
ICSI Netalyzr or NoScript) when external requests are redirected to the local address.
        * 127.0.0.1 tries to automatically connect to the dead-end destination which wastes a bit of unnecessary time and delays performance slightly.A more suitable choice is to use a truly invalid address, for example 255.0.0.0, as they are automatically invalid as a TCP endpoint.
Apart from the above benefits these truly invalid addresses also employ the same speed benefits too since communication is immediately dropped.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769116</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263500760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pride and Prejudice?  You're nice.  I was thinking something along the lines of the 'first post' and CmdrTaco spam.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pride and Prejudice ?
You 're nice .
I was thinking something along the lines of the 'first post ' and CmdrTaco spam .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pride and Prejudice?
You're nice.
I was thinking something along the lines of the 'first post' and CmdrTaco spam.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768962</id>
	<title>Re:Snopes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263500340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey boys! This feller here is calling himself "IT Ninja" but he doesn't know the difference between java and javascript! I say we run him outa slashdot!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey boys !
This feller here is calling himself " IT Ninja " but he does n't know the difference between java and javascript !
I say we run him outa slashdot !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey boys!
This feller here is calling himself "IT Ninja" but he doesn't know the difference between java and javascript!
I say we run him outa slashdot!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768258</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769436</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>ibpooks</author>
	<datestamp>1263501900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you want to see what is actually collected - sign up for an account and look at the dashboard, you will see that we are tracking the content, not the user.</p></div><p>Doesn't signing up for an account with you kinda defeat the purpose of not giving you any of my information?  Even signing up for your vaporware opt out gives you information about me that you will no doubt exploit in some way.  In order to opt me out you need to be able to uniquely identify me.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want to see what is actually collected - sign up for an account and look at the dashboard , you will see that we are tracking the content , not the user.Does n't signing up for an account with you kinda defeat the purpose of not giving you any of my information ?
Even signing up for your vaporware opt out gives you information about me that you will no doubt exploit in some way .
In order to opt me out you need to be able to uniquely identify me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want to see what is actually collected - sign up for an account and look at the dashboard, you will see that we are tracking the content, not the user.Doesn't signing up for an account with you kinda defeat the purpose of not giving you any of my information?
Even signing up for your vaporware opt out gives you information about me that you will no doubt exploit in some way.
In order to opt me out you need to be able to uniquely identify me.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771058</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>kbg</author>
	<datestamp>1263464700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem is that you are a company. Therefore what any employee says now has no meaning or bearing on what happens in the future. You may well be very nice people and all and nothing is being done with this information now. However being a company means you can be bought, and those people that buy you can be evil and can misuse the information, hence you can not be trusted, ever.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is that you are a company .
Therefore what any employee says now has no meaning or bearing on what happens in the future .
You may well be very nice people and all and nothing is being done with this information now .
However being a company means you can be bought , and those people that buy you can be evil and can misuse the information , hence you can not be trusted , ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is that you are a company.
Therefore what any employee says now has no meaning or bearing on what happens in the future.
You may well be very nice people and all and nothing is being done with this information now.
However being a company means you can be bought, and those people that buy you can be evil and can misuse the information, hence you can not be trusted, ever.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769492</id>
	<title>Re:Snopes</title>
	<author>corbettw</author>
	<datestamp>1263502020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That sounds like an urban legend to me. What does Snopes say about it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That sounds like an urban legend to me .
What does Snopes say about it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That sounds like an urban legend to me.
What does Snopes say about it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768258</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30776360</id>
	<title>Re:hosts file seems to work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263547740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>neg { name=tynt.com; types=domain; }</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>neg { name = tynt.com ; types = domain ; }</tokentext>
<sentencetext>neg { name=tynt.com; types=domain; }</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768608</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>LMacG</author>
	<datestamp>1263499080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Part of the problem is that the script seems to want to communicate to the server even when you've only highlighted text. As mentioned in another post (that the mods on acid seem to have gotten to), I highlight when I read.  I don't know why, but it's what I do.  I'm NOT copying, but tynt is still tracking me; the "cite your references" argument doesn't apply.</p><p>As far as just not using Wired.com, that completely ignores the fact that many other sites have this POS JS running; I first noticed it at the New Yorker magazine site.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Part of the problem is that the script seems to want to communicate to the server even when you 've only highlighted text .
As mentioned in another post ( that the mods on acid seem to have gotten to ) , I highlight when I read .
I do n't know why , but it 's what I do .
I 'm NOT copying , but tynt is still tracking me ; the " cite your references " argument does n't apply.As far as just not using Wired.com , that completely ignores the fact that many other sites have this POS JS running ; I first noticed it at the New Yorker magazine site .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Part of the problem is that the script seems to want to communicate to the server even when you've only highlighted text.
As mentioned in another post (that the mods on acid seem to have gotten to), I highlight when I read.
I don't know why, but it's what I do.
I'm NOT copying, but tynt is still tracking me; the "cite your references" argument doesn't apply.As far as just not using Wired.com, that completely ignores the fact that many other sites have this POS JS running; I first noticed it at the New Yorker magazine site.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768448</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769790</id>
	<title>Re:NoScript</title>
	<author>inviolet</author>
	<datestamp>1263460080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Personally I have stopped browsing without NoScript enabled. I sincerely hope that the functionality it provides is adapted as a base feature in future browsers. Javascript is simply too dangerous to be trusted by default. Sites need to earn that trust, IMHO.</p></div></blockquote><p>It is in Opera.  Opera has built-in site prefs that include java, javascript, plugins, 1st and 3rd party cookies, send referer, right-clicks, etc.  These can be configured per site, per domain, and both.  Then you turn all that crap off browser-wide, so that your site prefs become a whitelist.
</p><p>Opera is so far ahead of its time.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally I have stopped browsing without NoScript enabled .
I sincerely hope that the functionality it provides is adapted as a base feature in future browsers .
Javascript is simply too dangerous to be trusted by default .
Sites need to earn that trust , IMHO.It is in Opera .
Opera has built-in site prefs that include java , javascript , plugins , 1st and 3rd party cookies , send referer , right-clicks , etc .
These can be configured per site , per domain , and both .
Then you turn all that crap off browser-wide , so that your site prefs become a whitelist .
Opera is so far ahead of its time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally I have stopped browsing without NoScript enabled.
I sincerely hope that the functionality it provides is adapted as a base feature in future browsers.
Javascript is simply too dangerous to be trusted by default.
Sites need to earn that trust, IMHO.It is in Opera.
Opera has built-in site prefs that include java, javascript, plugins, 1st and 3rd party cookies, send referer, right-clicks, etc.
These can be configured per site, per domain, and both.
Then you turn all that crap off browser-wide, so that your site prefs become a whitelist.
Opera is so far ahead of its time.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768188</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768322</id>
	<title>Adblock the javascript</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263498120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Same thing works to get rid of that stupid answers.com script that makes an ajax call whenever you select any text on a page.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Same thing works to get rid of that stupid answers.com script that makes an ajax call whenever you select any text on a page .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same thing works to get rid of that stupid answers.com script that makes an ajax call whenever you select any text on a page.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30774944</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263486840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, I just re-read RMS's "The Right to Read." It's really not that far fetched that 1st: debuggers become a common tool for ordinary users to "skip over" parts of programs like this, there purportedly to "protect" copyrights, and 2nd: some asshat judge decides that's their primary use and outlaws them except for licensed and bonded programmers. <a href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html" title="gnu.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html</a> [gnu.org]</p><p>(captcha is ensnare!)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , I just re-read RMS 's " The Right to Read .
" It 's really not that far fetched that 1st : debuggers become a common tool for ordinary users to " skip over " parts of programs like this , there purportedly to " protect " copyrights , and 2nd : some asshat judge decides that 's their primary use and outlaws them except for licensed and bonded programmers .
http : //www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html [ gnu.org ] ( captcha is ensnare !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, I just re-read RMS's "The Right to Read.
" It's really not that far fetched that 1st: debuggers become a common tool for ordinary users to "skip over" parts of programs like this, there purportedly to "protect" copyrights, and 2nd: some asshat judge decides that's their primary use and outlaws them except for licensed and bonded programmers.
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html [gnu.org](captcha is ensnare!
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768096</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770574</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263463080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How does one edit the hosts file in Win 7? It won't let me save over it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How does one edit the hosts file in Win 7 ?
It wo n't let me save over it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How does one edit the hosts file in Win 7?
It won't let me save over it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768224</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769962</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Maxo-Texas</author>
	<datestamp>1263460800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use noscript with default settings, portable 3.0, portable 3.5, regular 3.0, regular 3.5.</p><p>I do not have these issues under Windows XP, Vista, or Windows 7.</p><p>Right now I'm at 74k.<br>Opened Gmail and I went to 107k.<br>Opened Yahool and went to 114k.</p><p>One thing I did find was that my flash drive performance issues with portable was because of the history setting.  Apparently with history set on, it builds a huge sqlite database and it updates it constantly.</p><p>On my current machine I have adblock, flashblock, noscript.<br>On my home machine, I also have WOT and a couple other addons.</p><p>There was one addon that added little 4 section postage stamps around the page overlinks and interesting words and it killed my performance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use noscript with default settings , portable 3.0 , portable 3.5 , regular 3.0 , regular 3.5.I do not have these issues under Windows XP , Vista , or Windows 7.Right now I 'm at 74k.Opened Gmail and I went to 107k.Opened Yahool and went to 114k.One thing I did find was that my flash drive performance issues with portable was because of the history setting .
Apparently with history set on , it builds a huge sqlite database and it updates it constantly.On my current machine I have adblock , flashblock , noscript.On my home machine , I also have WOT and a couple other addons.There was one addon that added little 4 section postage stamps around the page overlinks and interesting words and it killed my performance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use noscript with default settings, portable 3.0, portable 3.5, regular 3.0, regular 3.5.I do not have these issues under Windows XP, Vista, or Windows 7.Right now I'm at 74k.Opened Gmail and I went to 107k.Opened Yahool and went to 114k.One thing I did find was that my flash drive performance issues with portable was because of the history setting.
Apparently with history set on, it builds a huge sqlite database and it updates it constantly.On my current machine I have adblock, flashblock, noscript.On my home machine, I also have WOT and a couple other addons.There was one addon that added little 4 section postage stamps around the page overlinks and interesting words and it killed my performance.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768806</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768504</id>
	<title>How Tynt.com says to avoid being tracked...</title>
	<author>landrew</author>
	<datestamp>1263498720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This from their FAQ - Technical Topics (http://www1.tynt.com/faq-technical-topics):</p><p><i>Q. How can I block Tynt Insight from monitoring my actions?</i></p><p><i>A. Tynt understands that some people are uncomfortable having events from their web browsing recorded in a database. We take your privacy concerns seriously and we are therefore investing considerable effort into developing a feature that will allow users to block Tynt software across all the sites that are using it, from within their own browser. Until we have this blocking feature ready, it is possible to achieve a similar effect by using one of the many ad blocking components available on the net. For Firefox users, we have found Adblock plus to work well, and Super Ad Blocker is effective for IE users.</i></p><p>I can't wait to download and install software they've written to help me block them from tracking me with their software.  Good thing I'm using Ad Block Plus and NoScript while I wait, or they'd know I cut-n-pasted that...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This from their FAQ - Technical Topics ( http : //www1.tynt.com/faq-technical-topics ) : Q. How can I block Tynt Insight from monitoring my actions ? A .
Tynt understands that some people are uncomfortable having events from their web browsing recorded in a database .
We take your privacy concerns seriously and we are therefore investing considerable effort into developing a feature that will allow users to block Tynt software across all the sites that are using it , from within their own browser .
Until we have this blocking feature ready , it is possible to achieve a similar effect by using one of the many ad blocking components available on the net .
For Firefox users , we have found Adblock plus to work well , and Super Ad Blocker is effective for IE users.I ca n't wait to download and install software they 've written to help me block them from tracking me with their software .
Good thing I 'm using Ad Block Plus and NoScript while I wait , or they 'd know I cut-n-pasted that.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This from their FAQ - Technical Topics (http://www1.tynt.com/faq-technical-topics):Q. How can I block Tynt Insight from monitoring my actions?A.
Tynt understands that some people are uncomfortable having events from their web browsing recorded in a database.
We take your privacy concerns seriously and we are therefore investing considerable effort into developing a feature that will allow users to block Tynt software across all the sites that are using it, from within their own browser.
Until we have this blocking feature ready, it is possible to achieve a similar effect by using one of the many ad blocking components available on the net.
For Firefox users, we have found Adblock plus to work well, and Super Ad Blocker is effective for IE users.I can't wait to download and install software they've written to help me block them from tracking me with their software.
Good thing I'm using Ad Block Plus and NoScript while I wait, or they'd know I cut-n-pasted that...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768848</id>
	<title>Civil Disobedience</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263500040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To me, this would just prompt me to write a small script that randomly selected text on a page, copy, repeat... and let it spam their servers all night.  Eventually, one would hope, with enough people sending in trash data, they would get the idea to KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF.</p><p>Just my 2 cents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To me , this would just prompt me to write a small script that randomly selected text on a page , copy , repeat... and let it spam their servers all night .
Eventually , one would hope , with enough people sending in trash data , they would get the idea to KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF.Just my 2 cents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To me, this would just prompt me to write a small script that randomly selected text on a page, copy, repeat... and let it spam their servers all night.
Eventually, one would hope, with enough people sending in trash data, they would get the idea to KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF.Just my 2 cents.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769904</id>
	<title>Noscript FTW</title>
	<author>fast turtle</author>
	<datestamp>1263460560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been using Noscript since forever dude. Sure it broke lots of things to start with but that's finally settled down as I've built up my whitelist of allowed websites. The important thing is to block all by default then whitelist as needed and that prevents crap like this from happening in the first place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using Noscript since forever dude .
Sure it broke lots of things to start with but that 's finally settled down as I 've built up my whitelist of allowed websites .
The important thing is to block all by default then whitelist as needed and that prevents crap like this from happening in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using Noscript since forever dude.
Sure it broke lots of things to start with but that's finally settled down as I've built up my whitelist of allowed websites.
The important thing is to block all by default then whitelist as needed and that prevents crap like this from happening in the first place.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768528</id>
	<title>Fiddler is helpful is monitoring a site...</title>
	<author>klubar</author>
	<datestamp>1263498780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fiddler (HTTP Debugging Proxy) is a pretty cool tool for checking on what a site is doing -- and much easier and more useful than looking at the TCP stack).   Fiddler works with any browser and acts as a proxy between the browser and the web.  It's also scriptable.</p><p>Highly recommend <a href="http://www.fiddler2.com/fiddler2/" title="fiddler2.com">Fiddler</a> [fiddler2.com] for keeping tabs on who your browser is talking to.  (Also, indespensible for debugging ajax.)  </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fiddler ( HTTP Debugging Proxy ) is a pretty cool tool for checking on what a site is doing -- and much easier and more useful than looking at the TCP stack ) .
Fiddler works with any browser and acts as a proxy between the browser and the web .
It 's also scriptable.Highly recommend Fiddler [ fiddler2.com ] for keeping tabs on who your browser is talking to .
( Also , indespensible for debugging ajax .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fiddler (HTTP Debugging Proxy) is a pretty cool tool for checking on what a site is doing -- and much easier and more useful than looking at the TCP stack).
Fiddler works with any browser and acts as a proxy between the browser and the web.
It's also scriptable.Highly recommend Fiddler [fiddler2.com] for keeping tabs on who your browser is talking to.
(Also, indespensible for debugging ajax.
)  </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770584</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>epine</author>
	<datestamp>1263463080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll take my solutions in half measure, thank you very much.  A half-measure here, a half-measure there, pretty soon I'm better off than the chump beside me.</p><p>The absolute win with NoScript is that no scripts run on a site you didn't mean to visit.  Maybe the mouse slipped, or you clicked something dubious in a late night haze, or a google search result looked good in pr&#233;cis but you land with a giant OMG! thump.  With NoScript you can bail, and you still know where you've been.</p><p>Most sites work with just scripts from the base URL.  I'm on a lot of sites with half a dozen or more scripts blocked, and it works fine.</p><p>For places that look a bit dubious, I use temporary mode.</p><p>I'm sure there's some monkey business going on with the base scripts I'm permitting on many sites, but a lot less than shacking a rugby team in a convent.  I say it's a pretty good first measure if they have to sneak across the quad.</p><blockquote><div><p>All in all, it sounds very much like a half-assed illusion of a solution.</p></div></blockquote><p>Quoting the forefathers of gender-segregation are we?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll take my solutions in half measure , thank you very much .
A half-measure here , a half-measure there , pretty soon I 'm better off than the chump beside me.The absolute win with NoScript is that no scripts run on a site you did n't mean to visit .
Maybe the mouse slipped , or you clicked something dubious in a late night haze , or a google search result looked good in pr   cis but you land with a giant OMG !
thump. With NoScript you can bail , and you still know where you 've been.Most sites work with just scripts from the base URL .
I 'm on a lot of sites with half a dozen or more scripts blocked , and it works fine.For places that look a bit dubious , I use temporary mode.I 'm sure there 's some monkey business going on with the base scripts I 'm permitting on many sites , but a lot less than shacking a rugby team in a convent .
I say it 's a pretty good first measure if they have to sneak across the quad.All in all , it sounds very much like a half-assed illusion of a solution.Quoting the forefathers of gender-segregation are we ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll take my solutions in half measure, thank you very much.
A half-measure here, a half-measure there, pretty soon I'm better off than the chump beside me.The absolute win with NoScript is that no scripts run on a site you didn't mean to visit.
Maybe the mouse slipped, or you clicked something dubious in a late night haze, or a google search result looked good in précis but you land with a giant OMG!
thump.  With NoScript you can bail, and you still know where you've been.Most sites work with just scripts from the base URL.
I'm on a lot of sites with half a dozen or more scripts blocked, and it works fine.For places that look a bit dubious, I use temporary mode.I'm sure there's some monkey business going on with the base scripts I'm permitting on many sites, but a lot less than shacking a rugby team in a convent.
I say it's a pretty good first measure if they have to sneak across the quad.All in all, it sounds very much like a half-assed illusion of a solution.Quoting the forefathers of gender-segregation are we?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768342</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Itninja</author>
	<datestamp>1263498180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am also a NoScript fan. I love it's use of the 'whitelist' security model. Instead of making me tell it everything I want to block, it blocks it all by default and I tell it what I <i>want</i> to see. I wish all security products used this model.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am also a NoScript fan .
I love it 's use of the 'whitelist ' security model .
Instead of making me tell it everything I want to block , it blocks it all by default and I tell it what I want to see .
I wish all security products used this model .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am also a NoScript fan.
I love it's use of the 'whitelist' security model.
Instead of making me tell it everything I want to block, it blocks it all by default and I tell it what I want to see.
I wish all security products used this model.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768096</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769032</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>vnaughtdeltat</author>
	<datestamp>1263500580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have this terrible habit of double-clicking on text when I'm reading it, which selects it every couple of seconds. If more people did this maybe we could overload their servers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have this terrible habit of double-clicking on text when I 'm reading it , which selects it every couple of seconds .
If more people did this maybe we could overload their servers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have this terrible habit of double-clicking on text when I'm reading it, which selects it every couple of seconds.
If more people did this maybe we could overload their servers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30779180</id>
	<title>Re:How Tynt.com says to avoid being tracked...</title>
	<author>naam00</author>
	<datestamp>1263572400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Read it again, GP is talking about the blocking feature they're promising to get going at some unspecified time in the future. Possibly as soon as they know enough about your selection behaviour.<br> <br> But do keep calling people retarded. It's quite amusing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Read it again , GP is talking about the blocking feature they 're promising to get going at some unspecified time in the future .
Possibly as soon as they know enough about your selection behaviour .
But do keep calling people retarded .
It 's quite amusing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Read it again, GP is talking about the blocking feature they're promising to get going at some unspecified time in the future.
Possibly as soon as they know enough about your selection behaviour.
But do keep calling people retarded.
It's quite amusing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771762</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30777330</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263559680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This isn't a vulnerability, it is making use of a feature of JavaScript.  To make it clear, they aren't copying anything from your clipboard, just what you select on websites their JavaScript runs on.  There is nothing to be fixed.  If you think there is then you should be running NoScript because JavaScript is inherently insecure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't a vulnerability , it is making use of a feature of JavaScript .
To make it clear , they are n't copying anything from your clipboard , just what you select on websites their JavaScript runs on .
There is nothing to be fixed .
If you think there is then you should be running NoScript because JavaScript is inherently insecure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't a vulnerability, it is making use of a feature of JavaScript.
To make it clear, they aren't copying anything from your clipboard, just what you select on websites their JavaScript runs on.
There is nothing to be fixed.
If you think there is then you should be running NoScript because JavaScript is inherently insecure.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770066</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30772648</id>
	<title>Re:Snopes</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1263471780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Snopes was (is?) using java to prevent site viewers from right-clicking and selecting text at all (not to mention using java to present copious pop-up and pop-under ads).</p></div><p>How would one use Java to achieve that? Or do you mean JavaScript?</p><p>In any case, I'm honestly surprised that Firefox lets JS intercept right clicks by default. I thought it's only an IE [mis]feature. Do Chrome and Safari do that, too?</p><p>If so, I sure am glad that I'm using Opera, which has this crap disabled out of the box (you can enable it per-site if you want). As far as I'm concerned, this amounts to hijacking the browser UI, and definitely should be opt-in rather than opt-out. What next, give pages access to browser toolbar?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Snopes was ( is ?
) using java to prevent site viewers from right-clicking and selecting text at all ( not to mention using java to present copious pop-up and pop-under ads ) .How would one use Java to achieve that ?
Or do you mean JavaScript ? In any case , I 'm honestly surprised that Firefox lets JS intercept right clicks by default .
I thought it 's only an IE [ mis ] feature .
Do Chrome and Safari do that , too ? If so , I sure am glad that I 'm using Opera , which has this crap disabled out of the box ( you can enable it per-site if you want ) .
As far as I 'm concerned , this amounts to hijacking the browser UI , and definitely should be opt-in rather than opt-out .
What next , give pages access to browser toolbar ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Snopes was (is?
) using java to prevent site viewers from right-clicking and selecting text at all (not to mention using java to present copious pop-up and pop-under ads).How would one use Java to achieve that?
Or do you mean JavaScript?In any case, I'm honestly surprised that Firefox lets JS intercept right clicks by default.
I thought it's only an IE [mis]feature.
Do Chrome and Safari do that, too?If so, I sure am glad that I'm using Opera, which has this crap disabled out of the box (you can enable it per-site if you want).
As far as I'm concerned, this amounts to hijacking the browser UI, and definitely should be opt-in rather than opt-out.
What next, give pages access to browser toolbar?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768258</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768290</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Montezumaa</author>
	<datestamp>1263498060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read their website, and it looks like they offer a program for users to install.  Is this what the article is referring to, or are webmaster running a script to allow Tynt Insight to track what I copy and paste, irrespective of whether or not I install Tynt's program?  If it is the former, then do not install the damned program.  This is just like the whole social-networking sites and people bitching about privacy.</p><p>If it is the latter, then install No-Script(which everyone should have) and block the shit out of Tyrant....err, Tynt.  I have No-Script running because I was tired of Google tracking my every move, along with the other tracking site.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read their website , and it looks like they offer a program for users to install .
Is this what the article is referring to , or are webmaster running a script to allow Tynt Insight to track what I copy and paste , irrespective of whether or not I install Tynt 's program ?
If it is the former , then do not install the damned program .
This is just like the whole social-networking sites and people bitching about privacy.If it is the latter , then install No-Script ( which everyone should have ) and block the shit out of Tyrant....err , Tynt .
I have No-Script running because I was tired of Google tracking my every move , along with the other tracking site .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read their website, and it looks like they offer a program for users to install.
Is this what the article is referring to, or are webmaster running a script to allow Tynt Insight to track what I copy and paste, irrespective of whether or not I install Tynt's program?
If it is the former, then do not install the damned program.
This is just like the whole social-networking sites and people bitching about privacy.If it is the latter, then install No-Script(which everyone should have) and block the shit out of Tyrant....err, Tynt.
I have No-Script running because I was tired of Google tracking my every move, along with the other tracking site.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768096</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770594</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Derek Pomery</author>
	<datestamp>1263463080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>NoScript can be configured as a blacklist.  Just enable "Allow Scripts Globally" and it will permit any site that hasn't been explicitly blocked in the blacklist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NoScript can be configured as a blacklist .
Just enable " Allow Scripts Globally " and it will permit any site that has n't been explicitly blocked in the blacklist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NoScript can be configured as a blacklist.
Just enable "Allow Scripts Globally" and it will permit any site that hasn't been explicitly blocked in the blacklist.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769100</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30777272</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Tim C</author>
	<datestamp>1263558960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>i.e. the opt out for the SF Gate is here: <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/chronicle/faq.shtml#faq1.5\%23ixzz0bxLIAbL7" title="sfgate.com">http://www.sfgate.com/chronicle/faq.shtml#faq1.5\%23ixzz0bxLIAbL7</a> [sfgate.com] </i></p><p>I clicked on that link, then opened the AdBlock Plus console. One of the blockable items is indeed a script served from one of your servers (r1.tcr60.tynt.com). However I notice that the URL of this page is appended to the URL of the script - the full link is</p><p><tt>http://r1.tcr60.tynt.com/a/v/0bxLIAbL7?site=ad1\_AICmWr3PaXab7jrHtB&amp;url=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.sfgate.com\%2Fchronicle\%2Ffaq.shtml\%23faq1.5\%2523ixzz0bxLIAbL7&amp;referrer=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fyro.slashdot.org\%2Fstory\%2F10\%2F01\%2F14\%2F1818222\%2FTynt-Insight-Is-Watching-You-Cut-and-Paste\%3Fart\_pos\%3D16</tt></p><p>The same is true of your second link, there's a script referenced in the page with the URL of this page as part of the query string. So you're tracking referrers too. No offence, but this is starting to look shadier and shadier the deeper I dig.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i.e .
the opt out for the SF Gate is here : http : //www.sfgate.com/chronicle/faq.shtml # faq1.5 \ % 23ixzz0bxLIAbL7 [ sfgate.com ] I clicked on that link , then opened the AdBlock Plus console .
One of the blockable items is indeed a script served from one of your servers ( r1.tcr60.tynt.com ) .
However I notice that the URL of this page is appended to the URL of the script - the full link ishttp : //r1.tcr60.tynt.com/a/v/0bxLIAbL7 ? site = ad1 \ _AICmWr3PaXab7jrHtB&amp;url = http \ % 3A \ % 2F \ % 2Fwww.sfgate.com \ % 2Fchronicle \ % 2Ffaq.shtml \ % 23faq1.5 \ % 2523ixzz0bxLIAbL7&amp;referrer = http \ % 3A \ % 2F \ % 2Fyro.slashdot.org \ % 2Fstory \ % 2F10 \ % 2F01 \ % 2F14 \ % 2F1818222 \ % 2FTynt-Insight-Is-Watching-You-Cut-and-Paste \ % 3Fart \ _pos \ % 3D16The same is true of your second link , there 's a script referenced in the page with the URL of this page as part of the query string .
So you 're tracking referrers too .
No offence , but this is starting to look shadier and shadier the deeper I dig .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i.e.
the opt out for the SF Gate is here: http://www.sfgate.com/chronicle/faq.shtml#faq1.5\%23ixzz0bxLIAbL7 [sfgate.com] I clicked on that link, then opened the AdBlock Plus console.
One of the blockable items is indeed a script served from one of your servers (r1.tcr60.tynt.com).
However I notice that the URL of this page is appended to the URL of the script - the full link ishttp://r1.tcr60.tynt.com/a/v/0bxLIAbL7?site=ad1\_AICmWr3PaXab7jrHtB&amp;url=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.sfgate.com\%2Fchronicle\%2Ffaq.shtml\%23faq1.5\%2523ixzz0bxLIAbL7&amp;referrer=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fyro.slashdot.org\%2Fstory\%2F10\%2F01\%2F14\%2F1818222\%2FTynt-Insight-Is-Watching-You-Cut-and-Paste\%3Fart\_pos\%3D16The same is true of your second link, there's a script referenced in the page with the URL of this page as part of the query string.
So you're tracking referrers too.
No offence, but this is starting to look shadier and shadier the deeper I dig.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768420</id>
	<title>Why do they even need the text posted back?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263498480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't get it - why does the JavaScript even need to send the text to a server? I mean, the browser knows what page you are on. Why not just have the JS snag the URL from the browser and append it to the text, so the selected text never leaves your computer? This whole setup just sounds like an excuse to send something back to the server, when it's technically completely unnecessary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get it - why does the JavaScript even need to send the text to a server ?
I mean , the browser knows what page you are on .
Why not just have the JS snag the URL from the browser and append it to the text , so the selected text never leaves your computer ?
This whole setup just sounds like an excuse to send something back to the server , when it 's technically completely unnecessary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get it - why does the JavaScript even need to send the text to a server?
I mean, the browser knows what page you are on.
Why not just have the JS snag the URL from the browser and append it to the text, so the selected text never leaves your computer?
This whole setup just sounds like an excuse to send something back to the server, when it's technically completely unnecessary.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769634</id>
	<title>Re:Other script blockers will work, as well</title>
	<author>JonStewartMill</author>
	<datestamp>1263502560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just checked my NoScript settings. Imagine my surprise to see tynt.com whitelisted by default.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just checked my NoScript settings .
Imagine my surprise to see tynt.com whitelisted by default .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just checked my NoScript settings.
Imagine my surprise to see tynt.com whitelisted by default.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768142</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30773428</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263475860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1)  As mentioned this is "phoning home" when you're only highlighting - not just when you're copying.</p><p>2) There is no citation requirement anywhere for personal use.</p><p>3) MLA preferred? You must be a liberal arts major.</p><p>rho</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) As mentioned this is " phoning home " when you 're only highlighting - not just when you 're copying.2 ) There is no citation requirement anywhere for personal use.3 ) MLA preferred ?
You must be a liberal arts major.rho</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1)  As mentioned this is "phoning home" when you're only highlighting - not just when you're copying.2) There is no citation requirement anywhere for personal use.3) MLA preferred?
You must be a liberal arts major.rho</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768448</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</id>
	<title>A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263499200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I work for Tynt. I appreciate the discussion here and want to make sure that everyone knows we want to be respectful of the opinions here. Not sure i I will get flamed just for wading in, but I hope not.

To clarify on a few points

1. Tracking and Attribution &ndash; the attribution feature is separate from the tracking features. The tracking features work very much like any other analytics tool. We do not store any personally identifiable information, but we do want to help publishers learn what content people are choosing to preserve and promote. In addition, publishers can turn the attribution feature on or off on their sites.  If you want to see what is actually collected - sign up for an account and look at the dashboard, you will see that we are tracking the content, not the user.

3. What if I don&rsquo;t want this behavior? We are currently working on a global opt out for users who would rather not have Tynt monitor them. In the interim you can opt out on a site by site basis (i.e. the opt out for the SF Gate is here: <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/chronicle/faq.shtml#faq1.5\%23ixzz0bxLIAbL7" title="sfgate.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/chronicle/faq.shtml#faq1.5\%23ixzz0bxLIAbL7</a> [sfgate.com]). More info on how to not have Tynt monitor you is available in our FAQs here: <a href="http://www1.tynt.com/faq-technical-topics#ixzz0bxGzIgPZ" title="tynt.com" rel="nofollow">http://www1.tynt.com/faq-technical-topics#ixzz0bxGzIgPZ</a> [tynt.com]

but as pointed out in the comments here, NoScript is a very effective tool for this.

Derek</htmltext>
<tokenext>I work for Tynt .
I appreciate the discussion here and want to make sure that everyone knows we want to be respectful of the opinions here .
Not sure i I will get flamed just for wading in , but I hope not .
To clarify on a few points 1 .
Tracking and Attribution    the attribution feature is separate from the tracking features .
The tracking features work very much like any other analytics tool .
We do not store any personally identifiable information , but we do want to help publishers learn what content people are choosing to preserve and promote .
In addition , publishers can turn the attribution feature on or off on their sites .
If you want to see what is actually collected - sign up for an account and look at the dashboard , you will see that we are tracking the content , not the user .
3. What if I don    t want this behavior ?
We are currently working on a global opt out for users who would rather not have Tynt monitor them .
In the interim you can opt out on a site by site basis ( i.e .
the opt out for the SF Gate is here : http : //www.sfgate.com/chronicle/faq.shtml # faq1.5 \ % 23ixzz0bxLIAbL7 [ sfgate.com ] ) .
More info on how to not have Tynt monitor you is available in our FAQs here : http : //www1.tynt.com/faq-technical-topics # ixzz0bxGzIgPZ [ tynt.com ] but as pointed out in the comments here , NoScript is a very effective tool for this .
Derek</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work for Tynt.
I appreciate the discussion here and want to make sure that everyone knows we want to be respectful of the opinions here.
Not sure i I will get flamed just for wading in, but I hope not.
To clarify on a few points

1.
Tracking and Attribution – the attribution feature is separate from the tracking features.
The tracking features work very much like any other analytics tool.
We do not store any personally identifiable information, but we do want to help publishers learn what content people are choosing to preserve and promote.
In addition, publishers can turn the attribution feature on or off on their sites.
If you want to see what is actually collected - sign up for an account and look at the dashboard, you will see that we are tracking the content, not the user.
3. What if I don’t want this behavior?
We are currently working on a global opt out for users who would rather not have Tynt monitor them.
In the interim you can opt out on a site by site basis (i.e.
the opt out for the SF Gate is here: http://www.sfgate.com/chronicle/faq.shtml#faq1.5\%23ixzz0bxLIAbL7 [sfgate.com]).
More info on how to not have Tynt monitor you is available in our FAQs here: http://www1.tynt.com/faq-technical-topics#ixzz0bxGzIgPZ [tynt.com]

but as pointed out in the comments here, NoScript is a very effective tool for this.
Derek</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771980</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263468720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>this site is so effing gay sometimes. i really dont give a shit if someone sees the text i select. you people are too paranoid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>this site is so effing gay sometimes .
i really dont give a shit if someone sees the text i select .
you people are too paranoid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this site is so effing gay sometimes.
i really dont give a shit if someone sees the text i select.
you people are too paranoid.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768096</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769992</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263460860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't care.  You're adblocked and noscripted anyway.  My browser, my rules.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't care .
You 're adblocked and noscripted anyway .
My browser , my rules .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't care.
You're adblocked and noscripted anyway.
My browser, my rules.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771518</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263466440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interesting.  My long standing problem with FF (with NS and ABP) seems to be that it'll crash after some several hours or days of use under typically heavy load.  Heavy typically being for instance something like 100 windows and 500 tabs open for days on end.  Yes, FF ends up using a lot of memory, but I've got 8GB RAM and swap on top of that, and it USUALLY doesn't seem to be using memory without bounds or memory leaking badly, so I think it is just trying to make use of what is 'available' and usually stops around the point where it has most of the free memory but isn't pathologically swapping or whatever.  But the bad thing under Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Linux is that it'll just CRASH for no apparent reason, and reloading 500-600 pages isn't much fun even on DSL.  I can't believe it is this unstable.  I hope it isn't noscript's fault since it is an essential add on for security and sanity for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interesting .
My long standing problem with FF ( with NS and ABP ) seems to be that it 'll crash after some several hours or days of use under typically heavy load .
Heavy typically being for instance something like 100 windows and 500 tabs open for days on end .
Yes , FF ends up using a lot of memory , but I 've got 8GB RAM and swap on top of that , and it USUALLY does n't seem to be using memory without bounds or memory leaking badly , so I think it is just trying to make use of what is 'available ' and usually stops around the point where it has most of the free memory but is n't pathologically swapping or whatever .
But the bad thing under Windows Vista , Windows 7 , and Linux is that it 'll just CRASH for no apparent reason , and reloading 500-600 pages is n't much fun even on DSL .
I ca n't believe it is this unstable .
I hope it is n't noscript 's fault since it is an essential add on for security and sanity for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interesting.
My long standing problem with FF (with NS and ABP) seems to be that it'll crash after some several hours or days of use under typically heavy load.
Heavy typically being for instance something like 100 windows and 500 tabs open for days on end.
Yes, FF ends up using a lot of memory, but I've got 8GB RAM and swap on top of that, and it USUALLY doesn't seem to be using memory without bounds or memory leaking badly, so I think it is just trying to make use of what is 'available' and usually stops around the point where it has most of the free memory but isn't pathologically swapping or whatever.
But the bad thing under Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Linux is that it'll just CRASH for no apparent reason, and reloading 500-600 pages isn't much fun even on DSL.
I can't believe it is this unstable.
I hope it isn't noscript's fault since it is an essential add on for security and sanity for me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768806</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769290</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>nbates</author>
	<datestamp>1263501420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As always, this will annoy the casual user, and expose him to security breaches, while being useless against those who want to do something bad like violating copyright.</p><p>It's like those stupid "right-click popup a copyright alert" javascript scripts. It is useless against web developers who are willing to steal source code or content, but it annoys casual users who just wanted to "Send page via email" to a friend.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As always , this will annoy the casual user , and expose him to security breaches , while being useless against those who want to do something bad like violating copyright.It 's like those stupid " right-click popup a copyright alert " javascript scripts .
It is useless against web developers who are willing to steal source code or content , but it annoys casual users who just wanted to " Send page via email " to a friend .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As always, this will annoy the casual user, and expose him to security breaches, while being useless against those who want to do something bad like violating copyright.It's like those stupid "right-click popup a copyright alert" javascript scripts.
It is useless against web developers who are willing to steal source code or content, but it annoys casual users who just wanted to "Send page via email" to a friend.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768448</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769006</id>
	<title>What Tynt Does</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263500460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>--- request url ---<br>http://w1.tcr112.tynt.com/a/t/2?guid=0ccFYZWUT&amp;total=1&amp;\_charset\_=UTF-8&amp;site\_guid=ac4i\_23GOr3QjHab7jrHcU&amp;name=Google\%20Fights\%20China\%3B\%20Will\%20Yahoo\%20and\%20Microsoft\%20Follow\%3F\%20\%7C\%20Epicenter\%20\%7C\%20Wired.com&amp;word\_count=2310&amp;first\_type=1</p><p>--- request headers ---<br>Host: w1.tcr112.tynt.com<br>User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20091221 Firefox/3.5.7<br>Accept: image/png,image/*;q=0.8,*/*;q=0.5<br>Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5<br>Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate<br>Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7<br>Keep-Alive: 300<br>Connection: keep-alive<br>Pragma: no-cache, no-cache<br>Referer: http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/01/yahoo-microsoft-china/<br>Cache-Control: no-cache</p><p>--- response headers ---<br>Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:18:17 GMT<br>Server: Apache<br>Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0, false<br>Expires: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMT<br>Last-Modified: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:52:50 GMT<br>Accept-Ranges: bytes<br>Content-Length: 42<br>Connection: close<br>Content-Type: image/gif</p><p>Taken from Wired.com's page on the Google/China story, ironically enough... as for me, I think I'll keep tynt.com OFF the list of sites that NoScript allows.</p><p>Incidentally, it's obvious in Firefox that something weird is going on, as you can see the data transfer happen in the status line.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>--- request url ---http : //w1.tcr112.tynt.com/a/t/2 ? guid = 0ccFYZWUT&amp;total = 1&amp; \ _charset \ _ = UTF-8&amp;site \ _guid = ac4i \ _23GOr3QjHab7jrHcU&amp;name = Google \ % 20Fights \ % 20China \ % 3B \ % 20Will \ % 20Yahoo \ % 20and \ % 20Microsoft \ % 20Follow \ % 3F \ % 20 \ % 7C \ % 20Epicenter \ % 20 \ % 7C \ % 20Wired.com&amp;word \ _count = 2310&amp;first \ _type = 1--- request headers ---Host : w1.tcr112.tynt.comUser-Agent : Mozilla/5.0 ( Macintosh ; U ; Intel Mac OS X 10.6 ; en-US ; rv : 1.9.1.7 ) Gecko/20091221 Firefox/3.5.7Accept : image/png,image/ * ; q = 0.8 , * / * ; q = 0.5Accept-Language : en-us,en ; q = 0.5Accept-Encoding : gzip,deflateAccept-Charset : ISO-8859-1,utf-8 ; q = 0.7 , * ; q = 0.7Keep-Alive : 300Connection : keep-alivePragma : no-cache , no-cacheReferer : http : //www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/01/yahoo-microsoft-china/Cache-Control : no-cache--- response headers ---Date : Thu , 14 Jan 2010 19 : 18 : 17 GMTServer : ApacheCache-Control : no-store , no-cache , must-revalidate , post-check = 0 , pre-check = 0 , falseExpires : Sat , 26 Jul 1997 05 : 00 : 00 GMTLast-Modified : Thu , 19 Nov 2009 22 : 52 : 50 GMTAccept-Ranges : bytesContent-Length : 42Connection : closeContent-Type : image/gifTaken from Wired.com 's page on the Google/China story , ironically enough... as for me , I think I 'll keep tynt.com OFF the list of sites that NoScript allows.Incidentally , it 's obvious in Firefox that something weird is going on , as you can see the data transfer happen in the status line .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>--- request url ---http://w1.tcr112.tynt.com/a/t/2?guid=0ccFYZWUT&amp;total=1&amp;\_charset\_=UTF-8&amp;site\_guid=ac4i\_23GOr3QjHab7jrHcU&amp;name=Google\%20Fights\%20China\%3B\%20Will\%20Yahoo\%20and\%20Microsoft\%20Follow\%3F\%20\%7C\%20Epicenter\%20\%7C\%20Wired.com&amp;word\_count=2310&amp;first\_type=1--- request headers ---Host: w1.tcr112.tynt.comUser-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20091221 Firefox/3.5.7Accept: image/png,image/*;q=0.8,*/*;q=0.5Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflateAccept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7Keep-Alive: 300Connection: keep-alivePragma: no-cache, no-cacheReferer: http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/01/yahoo-microsoft-china/Cache-Control: no-cache--- response headers ---Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:18:17 GMTServer: ApacheCache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0, falseExpires: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMTLast-Modified: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:52:50 GMTAccept-Ranges: bytesContent-Length: 42Connection: closeContent-Type: image/gifTaken from Wired.com's page on the Google/China story, ironically enough... as for me, I think I'll keep tynt.com OFF the list of sites that NoScript allows.Incidentally, it's obvious in Firefox that something weird is going on, as you can see the data transfer happen in the status line.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30781242</id>
	<title>Re:Based on Selection</title>
	<author>JackRabbitSlims</author>
	<datestamp>1263581820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, it sends BOTH your "select text" event and also your "copy text" (in my case via Cmd-C on my keyboard).  I use LittleSnitch, an application firewall on the Mac and have verified this behavior: I get a connection request to tynt servers exactly after either of the mentioned events.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , it sends BOTH your " select text " event and also your " copy text " ( in my case via Cmd-C on my keyboard ) .
I use LittleSnitch , an application firewall on the Mac and have verified this behavior : I get a connection request to tynt servers exactly after either of the mentioned events .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, it sends BOTH your "select text" event and also your "copy text" (in my case via Cmd-C on my keyboard).
I use LittleSnitch, an application firewall on the Mac and have verified this behavior: I get a connection request to tynt servers exactly after either of the mentioned events.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768372</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30772812</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1263472560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's a question for you.</p><p>There is this concept which is called "reasonable expectation of privacy". Historically, it was reasonable to assume that any input on a web page was not private, but this has not been the case of highlighting. Tynt changes that, but how many users are aware of the fact that they're now sharing data when doing something as trivial as highlighting a few lines of text? What if the site they're browsing isn't explicit about it (I suspect that most aren't, tucking it somewhere on umpteenth page of their privacy policy, which is linked in tiny font from the bottom of the page)?</p><p>Don't you feel that you're committing a massive yet covert privacy violation against million of users (not legally, but ethically)?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's a question for you.There is this concept which is called " reasonable expectation of privacy " .
Historically , it was reasonable to assume that any input on a web page was not private , but this has not been the case of highlighting .
Tynt changes that , but how many users are aware of the fact that they 're now sharing data when doing something as trivial as highlighting a few lines of text ?
What if the site they 're browsing is n't explicit about it ( I suspect that most are n't , tucking it somewhere on umpteenth page of their privacy policy , which is linked in tiny font from the bottom of the page ) ? Do n't you feel that you 're committing a massive yet covert privacy violation against million of users ( not legally , but ethically ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's a question for you.There is this concept which is called "reasonable expectation of privacy".
Historically, it was reasonable to assume that any input on a web page was not private, but this has not been the case of highlighting.
Tynt changes that, but how many users are aware of the fact that they're now sharing data when doing something as trivial as highlighting a few lines of text?
What if the site they're browsing isn't explicit about it (I suspect that most aren't, tucking it somewhere on umpteenth page of their privacy policy, which is linked in tiny font from the bottom of the page)?Don't you feel that you're committing a massive yet covert privacy violation against million of users (not legally, but ethically)?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769300</id>
	<title>Re:Habits</title>
	<author>stillnotelf</author>
	<datestamp>1263501420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am thrilled to hear that other people do this!  I do it as a nervous habit - I can't keep my hands still so when reading at a computer it's a good way to keep them occupied.  I forget to stop doing it when other people are reading over my shoulder for whatever reason - it drives them CRAZY!  It's also a problem when cutting and pasting in emacs (since highlighting copies) - I get all sorts of bizarre things pasted by mistake when I switch between websites and code while code compiles.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am thrilled to hear that other people do this !
I do it as a nervous habit - I ca n't keep my hands still so when reading at a computer it 's a good way to keep them occupied .
I forget to stop doing it when other people are reading over my shoulder for whatever reason - it drives them CRAZY !
It 's also a problem when cutting and pasting in emacs ( since highlighting copies ) - I get all sorts of bizarre things pasted by mistake when I switch between websites and code while code compiles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am thrilled to hear that other people do this!
I do it as a nervous habit - I can't keep my hands still so when reading at a computer it's a good way to keep them occupied.
I forget to stop doing it when other people are reading over my shoulder for whatever reason - it drives them CRAZY!
It's also a problem when cutting and pasting in emacs (since highlighting copies) - I get all sorts of bizarre things pasted by mistake when I switch between websites and code while code compiles.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30772206</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263469680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I have this terrible habit of double-clicking on text when I'm reading it, which selects it every couple of seconds. If more people did this maybe we could overload their servers.</p></div><p>Weird, me too. Wonder why?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have this terrible habit of double-clicking on text when I 'm reading it , which selects it every couple of seconds .
If more people did this maybe we could overload their servers.Weird , me too .
Wonder why ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have this terrible habit of double-clicking on text when I'm reading it, which selects it every couple of seconds.
If more people did this maybe we could overload their servers.Weird, me too.
Wonder why?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769088</id>
	<title>Re:Why collect that data?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263500700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the fact that you can see what people are finding 'noteworthy' on your site is reason enough.</p><p>Plus if you find a blogger that seems to be quoting you without attribution and find that his IP has selected this text from you, bam copy infringement case.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the fact that you can see what people are finding 'noteworthy ' on your site is reason enough.Plus if you find a blogger that seems to be quoting you without attribution and find that his IP has selected this text from you , bam copy infringement case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the fact that you can see what people are finding 'noteworthy' on your site is reason enough.Plus if you find a blogger that seems to be quoting you without attribution and find that his IP has selected this text from you, bam copy infringement case.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768360</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770556</id>
	<title>Re:Trolls?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263463020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>a-ha, you're spying on all your colleagues or how else would you know that for sure?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>a-ha , you 're spying on all your colleagues or how else would you know that for sure ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a-ha, you're spying on all your colleagues or how else would you know that for sure?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768844</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769016</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263500520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>what do you mean <i>random</i> text?  if you are going to do it, make it the <i>full</i> text</htmltext>
<tokenext>what do you mean random text ?
if you are going to do it , make it the full text</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what do you mean random text?
if you are going to do it, make it the full text</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769852</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Gordonjcp</author>
	<datestamp>1263460320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It seems to send some sort of start and length reference to the servers.  It wouldn't be hard to keep sending them lots of randomish clicks though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems to send some sort of start and length reference to the servers .
It would n't be hard to keep sending them lots of randomish clicks though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems to send some sort of start and length reference to the servers.
It wouldn't be hard to keep sending them lots of randomish clicks though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768750</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768850</id>
	<title>As someone who compulsively selects...</title>
	<author>CAIMLAS</author>
	<datestamp>1263500040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As someone who compulsively selects articles as i read them (repeatedly and randomly) let me just say I'm glad to see that my compulsive behavior is corrupting their 'service'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone who compulsively selects articles as i read them ( repeatedly and randomly ) let me just say I 'm glad to see that my compulsive behavior is corrupting their 'service' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone who compulsively selects articles as i read them (repeatedly and randomly) let me just say I'm glad to see that my compulsive behavior is corrupting their 'service'.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30778632</id>
	<title>Re:Snopes</title>
	<author>Nyder</author>
	<datestamp>1263569520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Hey boys! This feller here is calling himself "IT Ninja" but he doesn't know the difference between java and javascript! I say we run him outa slashdot!</p></div><p>Hey boys!  This feller here don't know how to use Quote Parent properly.  So now we don't know which post he is referring to.  I saw we run him outa slashdot!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey boys !
This feller here is calling himself " IT Ninja " but he does n't know the difference between java and javascript !
I say we run him outa slashdot ! Hey boys !
This feller here do n't know how to use Quote Parent properly .
So now we do n't know which post he is referring to .
I saw we run him outa slashdot !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey boys!
This feller here is calling himself "IT Ninja" but he doesn't know the difference between java and javascript!
I say we run him outa slashdot!Hey boys!
This feller here don't know how to use Quote Parent properly.
So now we don't know which post he is referring to.
I saw we run him outa slashdot!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768962</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769968</id>
	<title>Privacy Policy</title>
	<author>saaaammmmm</author>
	<datestamp>1263460800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Check out Tynt's privacy policy. The "Information obtained by virtue of your visiting TYNT web sites" section is particularly interesting.

<a href="http://www1.tynt.com/privacy-policy" title="tynt.com" rel="nofollow">http://www1.tynt.com/privacy-policy</a> [tynt.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Check out Tynt 's privacy policy .
The " Information obtained by virtue of your visiting TYNT web sites " section is particularly interesting .
http : //www1.tynt.com/privacy-policy [ tynt.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check out Tynt's privacy policy.
The "Information obtained by virtue of your visiting TYNT web sites" section is particularly interesting.
http://www1.tynt.com/privacy-policy [tynt.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769956</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263460740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And how did you KNOW we were talking about Tynt??</p><p>They're everywhere...don your tinfoil hats!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And how did you KNOW we were talking about Tynt ?
? They 're everywhere...don your tinfoil hats !
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And how did you KNOW we were talking about Tynt?
?They're everywhere...don your tinfoil hats!
;-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30775800</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>mcon147</author>
	<datestamp>1263496500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Opt-out?

Oh wow, that's so nice.

It's very clear that no regular person actually wants to be subjected to your company's "service".


If I ran a company that went through your trash (you know, to track the content...) before the collectors came to get it, you'd probably be rather annoyed to find out that it was opt-out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Opt-out ?
Oh wow , that 's so nice .
It 's very clear that no regular person actually wants to be subjected to your company 's " service " .
If I ran a company that went through your trash ( you know , to track the content... ) before the collectors came to get it , you 'd probably be rather annoyed to find out that it was opt-out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Opt-out?
Oh wow, that's so nice.
It's very clear that no regular person actually wants to be subjected to your company's "service".
If I ran a company that went through your trash (you know, to track the content...) before the collectors came to get it, you'd probably be rather annoyed to find out that it was opt-out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30772730</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1263472200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That info, and my IP address, is sent to a third-party, theoretically for the purpose of appending a URL to the end of the text. Is that data also used for something else? Most likely.</p></div><p>There's nothing theoretic about it - they spell it out in large letters on <a href="http://www.tynt.com/" title="tynt.com">their website</a> [tynt.com]. It's all about data mining first and foremost; autolinking is actually an optional add-on, and even then it's advertised as "driving up more visits" - i.e. it's a feature for site owners, not for end users.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That info , and my IP address , is sent to a third-party , theoretically for the purpose of appending a URL to the end of the text .
Is that data also used for something else ?
Most likely.There 's nothing theoretic about it - they spell it out in large letters on their website [ tynt.com ] .
It 's all about data mining first and foremost ; autolinking is actually an optional add-on , and even then it 's advertised as " driving up more visits " - i.e .
it 's a feature for site owners , not for end users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That info, and my IP address, is sent to a third-party, theoretically for the purpose of appending a URL to the end of the text.
Is that data also used for something else?
Most likely.There's nothing theoretic about it - they spell it out in large letters on their website [tynt.com].
It's all about data mining first and foremost; autolinking is actually an optional add-on, and even then it's advertised as "driving up more visits" - i.e.
it's a feature for site owners, not for end users.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768678</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30776530</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263549780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, they do have the problem that the JS can only interact with your highlight and mouse clicks. It can't interact with their clipboard. So they \_have\_ to talk to the server at the time you highlight. If they wait until you hit Ctrl-C, it's too late.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , they do have the problem that the JS can only interact with your highlight and mouse clicks .
It ca n't interact with their clipboard .
So they \ _have \ _ to talk to the server at the time you highlight .
If they wait until you hit Ctrl-C , it 's too late .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, they do have the problem that the JS can only interact with your highlight and mouse clicks.
It can't interact with their clipboard.
So they \_have\_ to talk to the server at the time you highlight.
If they wait until you hit Ctrl-C, it's too late.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768608</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30772922</id>
	<title>Re:Privacy invasion?</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1263473160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I happen to think site owners have a right to implement tracking tools as they see fit, and users can chose wether or not to visit a site or to use blocking tools.</p></div><p>I agree, but with one correction: the users have the right to know that they're being tracked, so they can use blocking tools as they see fit.</p><p>So far as I can see, this isn't the case with Tynt, as it's possible to configure it such that it just reports selection, and doesn't do autolinking. Yeah, a techie can check page source and find the script reference, but that accounts for what, 1\% of all people surfing the Web?</p><p>Stuff like that should have a prominent notification <em>before</em> it starts tracking, so that I can leave the site that wants to do that (or block it to the best of my ability).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I happen to think site owners have a right to implement tracking tools as they see fit , and users can chose wether or not to visit a site or to use blocking tools.I agree , but with one correction : the users have the right to know that they 're being tracked , so they can use blocking tools as they see fit.So far as I can see , this is n't the case with Tynt , as it 's possible to configure it such that it just reports selection , and does n't do autolinking .
Yeah , a techie can check page source and find the script reference , but that accounts for what , 1 \ % of all people surfing the Web ? Stuff like that should have a prominent notification before it starts tracking , so that I can leave the site that wants to do that ( or block it to the best of my ability ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I happen to think site owners have a right to implement tracking tools as they see fit, and users can chose wether or not to visit a site or to use blocking tools.I agree, but with one correction: the users have the right to know that they're being tracked, so they can use blocking tools as they see fit.So far as I can see, this isn't the case with Tynt, as it's possible to configure it such that it just reports selection, and doesn't do autolinking.
Yeah, a techie can check page source and find the script reference, but that accounts for what, 1\% of all people surfing the Web?Stuff like that should have a prominent notification before it starts tracking, so that I can leave the site that wants to do that (or block it to the best of my ability).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768846</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769606</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Dolohov</author>
	<datestamp>1263502440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't speak for anyone else, but I find a couple things wrong with this:<br>1) Like a number of people, I tend to highlight text as I read -- it's a good way to mark my place, and it helps overcome some of the stupid font and coloring decisions that sites make. That means you're not just telling publishers what I want to preserve and promote, but snippets of what I'm reading. That bugs me, and I can't imagine that it's useful.<br>2) Maybe you're not storing or tracking personally identifiable information, maybe you are -- I have no way of knowing. (I appreciate the offer of the dashboard access, but that's just what you choose to share) I have to trust you not to, and you are not behaving in a manner that makes me want to trust you: silently sending data? Asking me to opt-out rather than opt-in? Sorry, no. I've been to a couple of the sites mentioned here and had no idea that my reading habits were being monitored in this way -- that makes me feel like I'm being spied on, and I have to wonder what else you're doing that you just haven't been caught at yet. You guys launched without an opt-out, that tells me that you consider privacy concerns an afterthought.<br>3) Even if I trust you not to mistreat my data, how do I know that you're sending this in an intelligent fashion? I haven't done a TCPdump yet, but when I do, am I going to discover that you're sending what I highlight plain-text? Can someone who isn't you track me personally based on what you're collecting and sending? Is there any effort to make sure that the sites who use this are not being stupid and applying your tool to text on secure pages? How can I know without stopping and peering at the source for every page I visit?<br>4) If my choices are individual opt-out on your customers who are polite enough to offer it versus either blanket blocking or global opt-out, I'm going to have to pick global opt-out even if I don't mind the polite folks using it. Otherwise I have no control over how the less-trustworthy people use it -- as an opt-out service, your whole service is only as trustworthy as your least honest customers. And I cannot imagine that your customers who rely on ad revenue are happy to have you recommending that people who don't want to be spied on use an ad blocker.</p><p>I actually don't mind the attribution tool, I think it's clever and potentially useful -- but also something that could have been accomplished without tracking my reading habits.</p><p>If you want to be trusted and not "flamed", it's simple: make it opt-in, and give me a good reason to opt in. You make money off monitoring my browsing habits, maybe I ought to get a cut.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't speak for anyone else , but I find a couple things wrong with this : 1 ) Like a number of people , I tend to highlight text as I read -- it 's a good way to mark my place , and it helps overcome some of the stupid font and coloring decisions that sites make .
That means you 're not just telling publishers what I want to preserve and promote , but snippets of what I 'm reading .
That bugs me , and I ca n't imagine that it 's useful.2 ) Maybe you 're not storing or tracking personally identifiable information , maybe you are -- I have no way of knowing .
( I appreciate the offer of the dashboard access , but that 's just what you choose to share ) I have to trust you not to , and you are not behaving in a manner that makes me want to trust you : silently sending data ?
Asking me to opt-out rather than opt-in ?
Sorry , no .
I 've been to a couple of the sites mentioned here and had no idea that my reading habits were being monitored in this way -- that makes me feel like I 'm being spied on , and I have to wonder what else you 're doing that you just have n't been caught at yet .
You guys launched without an opt-out , that tells me that you consider privacy concerns an afterthought.3 ) Even if I trust you not to mistreat my data , how do I know that you 're sending this in an intelligent fashion ?
I have n't done a TCPdump yet , but when I do , am I going to discover that you 're sending what I highlight plain-text ?
Can someone who is n't you track me personally based on what you 're collecting and sending ?
Is there any effort to make sure that the sites who use this are not being stupid and applying your tool to text on secure pages ?
How can I know without stopping and peering at the source for every page I visit ? 4 ) If my choices are individual opt-out on your customers who are polite enough to offer it versus either blanket blocking or global opt-out , I 'm going to have to pick global opt-out even if I do n't mind the polite folks using it .
Otherwise I have no control over how the less-trustworthy people use it -- as an opt-out service , your whole service is only as trustworthy as your least honest customers .
And I can not imagine that your customers who rely on ad revenue are happy to have you recommending that people who do n't want to be spied on use an ad blocker.I actually do n't mind the attribution tool , I think it 's clever and potentially useful -- but also something that could have been accomplished without tracking my reading habits.If you want to be trusted and not " flamed " , it 's simple : make it opt-in , and give me a good reason to opt in .
You make money off monitoring my browsing habits , maybe I ought to get a cut .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't speak for anyone else, but I find a couple things wrong with this:1) Like a number of people, I tend to highlight text as I read -- it's a good way to mark my place, and it helps overcome some of the stupid font and coloring decisions that sites make.
That means you're not just telling publishers what I want to preserve and promote, but snippets of what I'm reading.
That bugs me, and I can't imagine that it's useful.2) Maybe you're not storing or tracking personally identifiable information, maybe you are -- I have no way of knowing.
(I appreciate the offer of the dashboard access, but that's just what you choose to share) I have to trust you not to, and you are not behaving in a manner that makes me want to trust you: silently sending data?
Asking me to opt-out rather than opt-in?
Sorry, no.
I've been to a couple of the sites mentioned here and had no idea that my reading habits were being monitored in this way -- that makes me feel like I'm being spied on, and I have to wonder what else you're doing that you just haven't been caught at yet.
You guys launched without an opt-out, that tells me that you consider privacy concerns an afterthought.3) Even if I trust you not to mistreat my data, how do I know that you're sending this in an intelligent fashion?
I haven't done a TCPdump yet, but when I do, am I going to discover that you're sending what I highlight plain-text?
Can someone who isn't you track me personally based on what you're collecting and sending?
Is there any effort to make sure that the sites who use this are not being stupid and applying your tool to text on secure pages?
How can I know without stopping and peering at the source for every page I visit?4) If my choices are individual opt-out on your customers who are polite enough to offer it versus either blanket blocking or global opt-out, I'm going to have to pick global opt-out even if I don't mind the polite folks using it.
Otherwise I have no control over how the less-trustworthy people use it -- as an opt-out service, your whole service is only as trustworthy as your least honest customers.
And I cannot imagine that your customers who rely on ad revenue are happy to have you recommending that people who don't want to be spied on use an ad blocker.I actually don't mind the attribution tool, I think it's clever and potentially useful -- but also something that could have been accomplished without tracking my reading habits.If you want to be trusted and not "flamed", it's simple: make it opt-in, and give me a good reason to opt in.
You make money off monitoring my browsing habits, maybe I ought to get a cut.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768180</id>
	<title>Scripting?</title>
	<author>Nexzus</author>
	<datestamp>1263497700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Probably uses the script onmousedown or onselect events for the page. So don't allow scripting for that site, and you should be fine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably uses the script onmousedown or onselect events for the page .
So do n't allow scripting for that site , and you should be fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably uses the script onmousedown or onselect events for the page.
So don't allow scripting for that site, and you should be fine.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768326</id>
	<title>Easy Adblock Plus Filter</title>
	<author>CritterNYC</author>
	<datestamp>1263498120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just add a filter to to Adblock Plus in Firefox.  Go to Adblock Plus's preferences page, click Add Filter and enter:</p><p><a href="http://tcr.tynt.com/*" title="tynt.com">http://tcr.tynt.com/*</a> [tynt.com]</p><p>Then just click OK or Apply.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just add a filter to to Adblock Plus in Firefox .
Go to Adblock Plus 's preferences page , click Add Filter and enter : http : //tcr.tynt.com/ * [ tynt.com ] Then just click OK or Apply .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just add a filter to to Adblock Plus in Firefox.
Go to Adblock Plus's preferences page, click Add Filter and enter:http://tcr.tynt.com/* [tynt.com]Then just click OK or Apply.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769184</id>
	<title>Re:hosts file seems to work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263501060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Turning off your computer stops it too. (confirmed here)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Turning off your computer stops it too .
( confirmed here )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Turning off your computer stops it too.
(confirmed here)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768550</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768960</id>
	<title>Re:Snopes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263500340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you don't have no-script, you can do a poor-man's script block by hitting the windows menu key to bring up the context menu.  It doesn't fire a mouse-click event, and so it some scripts that depend on that don't fire.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you do n't have no-script , you can do a poor-man 's script block by hitting the windows menu key to bring up the context menu .
It does n't fire a mouse-click event , and so it some scripts that depend on that do n't fire .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you don't have no-script, you can do a poor-man's script block by hitting the windows menu key to bring up the context menu.
It doesn't fire a mouse-click event, and so it some scripts that depend on that don't fire.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768258</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769100</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>virtualXTC</author>
	<datestamp>1263500760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Comparing the false positive rate of ABP to noScipt is about as useful as comparing apples and oranges.

ABP is a blacklist based service, Noscript is a whitelist.

Therfore ABP only has false negatives (including all of the things you need noscript for).

No-script therefore has only false positives.  Unfortunately, un-like ABP, a user curated list isn't practical; as soon as you do and whitelist a paticular script, someone will change it to do something malicious.

<br> <br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>....the fact that some users are too dumb to figure out how to use no-script makes me like it that much more.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Comparing the false positive rate of ABP to noScipt is about as useful as comparing apples and oranges .
ABP is a blacklist based service , Noscript is a whitelist .
Therfore ABP only has false negatives ( including all of the things you need noscript for ) .
No-script therefore has only false positives .
Unfortunately , un-like ABP , a user curated list is n't practical ; as soon as you do and whitelist a paticular script , someone will change it to do something malicious .
....the fact that some users are too dumb to figure out how to use no-script makes me like it that much more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Comparing the false positive rate of ABP to noScipt is about as useful as comparing apples and oranges.
ABP is a blacklist based service, Noscript is a whitelist.
Therfore ABP only has false negatives (including all of the things you need noscript for).
No-script therefore has only false positives.
Unfortunately, un-like ABP, a user curated list isn't practical; as soon as you do and whitelist a paticular script, someone will change it to do something malicious.
....the fact that some users are too dumb to figure out how to use no-script makes me like it that much more.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768798</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768482</id>
	<title>hmmm</title>
	<author>xaositects</author>
	<datestamp>1263498720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>seems like a CTRL+A, CTRL+C by a few thousand slashdotters might cause some issues.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>seems like a CTRL + A , CTRL + C by a few thousand slashdotters might cause some issues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>seems like a CTRL+A, CTRL+C by a few thousand slashdotters might cause some issues.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769206</id>
	<title>selectitis</title>
	<author>bencoder</author>
	<datestamp>1263501120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hah. If it's just based on selection then they are going to get some really shoddy results from me. I appear to have selectitis... while reading text on a page I randomly select and deselect parts of the page. I'm not sure why, it's just like a nervous tick in my hand and I can't help it. It's not related to the part I'm reading.. normally the selection is above or below where I'm reading.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hah .
If it 's just based on selection then they are going to get some really shoddy results from me .
I appear to have selectitis... while reading text on a page I randomly select and deselect parts of the page .
I 'm not sure why , it 's just like a nervous tick in my hand and I ca n't help it .
It 's not related to the part I 'm reading.. normally the selection is above or below where I 'm reading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hah.
If it's just based on selection then they are going to get some really shoddy results from me.
I appear to have selectitis... while reading text on a page I randomly select and deselect parts of the page.
I'm not sure why, it's just like a nervous tick in my hand and I can't help it.
It's not related to the part I'm reading.. normally the selection is above or below where I'm reading.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768586</id>
	<title>Quick and easy "plaintextify" for Windows</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263499020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>1) Copy desired formatted/linked/etc text to clipboard.<br>
2) Windows key-R (opens Run box)<br>
3) Ctrl-V (paste the text into the Run box)<br>
4) Shift-Home (select the now-plaintext)<br>
5) Ctrl-C (copy the now-plaintext)<br>
6) Esc (close Run box)<br>
<br>
I use this all the time when copying and pasting in Windows, and it works great for me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Copy desired formatted/linked/etc text to clipboard .
2 ) Windows key-R ( opens Run box ) 3 ) Ctrl-V ( paste the text into the Run box ) 4 ) Shift-Home ( select the now-plaintext ) 5 ) Ctrl-C ( copy the now-plaintext ) 6 ) Esc ( close Run box ) I use this all the time when copying and pasting in Windows , and it works great for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Copy desired formatted/linked/etc text to clipboard.
2) Windows key-R (opens Run box)
3) Ctrl-V (paste the text into the Run box)
4) Shift-Home (select the now-plaintext)
5) Ctrl-C (copy the now-plaintext)
6) Esc (close Run box)

I use this all the time when copying and pasting in Windows, and it works great for me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769124</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>ahabswhale</author>
	<datestamp>1263500820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>NoScript is whitelist oriented.  You have to explicitly tell it what sites are ok to run javascript.  If you don't do that, you're opening yourself up to a world of hurt (especially if you ever browse porn).  Once a site is whitelisted, you shouldn't have any problems with it at all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>NoScript is whitelist oriented .
You have to explicitly tell it what sites are ok to run javascript .
If you do n't do that , you 're opening yourself up to a world of hurt ( especially if you ever browse porn ) .
Once a site is whitelisted , you should n't have any problems with it at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NoScript is whitelist oriented.
You have to explicitly tell it what sites are ok to run javascript.
If you don't do that, you're opening yourself up to a world of hurt (especially if you ever browse porn).
Once a site is whitelisted, you shouldn't have any problems with it at all.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768798</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768200</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263497760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to second this. NoScript is now my favorite extension, with ABP being a close second.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to second this .
NoScript is now my favorite extension , with ABP being a close second .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to second this.
NoScript is now my favorite extension, with ABP being a close second.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768096</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771158</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263465000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I actually do that too.  Now I want to go see what sort of effect it has on a site that's using this taynt stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually do that too .
Now I want to go see what sort of effect it has on a site that 's using this taynt stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually do that too.
Now I want to go see what sort of effect it has on a site that's using this taynt stuff.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769446</id>
	<title>Let it be</title>
	<author>iamacat</author>
	<datestamp>1263501900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All the posts here are focusing on defeating the script with technological measures. But basically:</p><p>1. You get to read wired for free<br>2. You get to copy sections of their articles and post them to your own blogs<br>3. All wired gets is increased chance of attribution (you could still delete the link after pasting) and anonymous statistics on which portions of their stuff people found interesting.</p><p>This is much less invasive than paywalls, disabled mouse right clicks or excessive popup/over/under ads. In fact, if you are cool with google analyzing your goat pr0n queries, you should be cool with that because only someone else's thoughts are captured rather than yours. If we want to enjoy good quality free stuff on the web, we should learn to live at least with moderate wishes of its creators.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All the posts here are focusing on defeating the script with technological measures .
But basically : 1 .
You get to read wired for free2 .
You get to copy sections of their articles and post them to your own blogs3 .
All wired gets is increased chance of attribution ( you could still delete the link after pasting ) and anonymous statistics on which portions of their stuff people found interesting.This is much less invasive than paywalls , disabled mouse right clicks or excessive popup/over/under ads .
In fact , if you are cool with google analyzing your goat pr0n queries , you should be cool with that because only someone else 's thoughts are captured rather than yours .
If we want to enjoy good quality free stuff on the web , we should learn to live at least with moderate wishes of its creators .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All the posts here are focusing on defeating the script with technological measures.
But basically:1.
You get to read wired for free2.
You get to copy sections of their articles and post them to your own blogs3.
All wired gets is increased chance of attribution (you could still delete the link after pasting) and anonymous statistics on which portions of their stuff people found interesting.This is much less invasive than paywalls, disabled mouse right clicks or excessive popup/over/under ads.
In fact, if you are cool with google analyzing your goat pr0n queries, you should be cool with that because only someone else's thoughts are captured rather than yours.
If we want to enjoy good quality free stuff on the web, we should learn to live at least with moderate wishes of its creators.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769524</id>
	<title>Re:NoScript</title>
	<author>apoc.famine</author>
	<datestamp>1263502140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's interesting how transparent NoScript is on the pages I visit often, and how much it complains about sites I don't visit often. It's an extra irritation, definitely. But when you watch someone browsing without it, you get a damn good refresher on why you use it. <br>
&nbsp; <br>I'm blown away by the amount of abuse that most people put up with from scripts. It's mind-boggling to me. I put up with exactly one bit of abuse - sometimes I have to reload a page a time or two as I selectively enable scripts to get to the content I want. I'd rather not do that, but it sure beats the alternative.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's interesting how transparent NoScript is on the pages I visit often , and how much it complains about sites I do n't visit often .
It 's an extra irritation , definitely .
But when you watch someone browsing without it , you get a damn good refresher on why you use it .
  I 'm blown away by the amount of abuse that most people put up with from scripts .
It 's mind-boggling to me .
I put up with exactly one bit of abuse - sometimes I have to reload a page a time or two as I selectively enable scripts to get to the content I want .
I 'd rather not do that , but it sure beats the alternative .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's interesting how transparent NoScript is on the pages I visit often, and how much it complains about sites I don't visit often.
It's an extra irritation, definitely.
But when you watch someone browsing without it, you get a damn good refresher on why you use it.
  I'm blown away by the amount of abuse that most people put up with from scripts.
It's mind-boggling to me.
I put up with exactly one bit of abuse - sometimes I have to reload a page a time or two as I selectively enable scripts to get to the content I want.
I'd rather not do that, but it sure beats the alternative.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768188</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768142</id>
	<title>Other script blockers will work, as well</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263497640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>NoScript will also block it, and if you configure it to block by default, Tynt's code will never execute unless you specifically permit it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NoScript will also block it , and if you configure it to block by default , Tynt 's code will never execute unless you specifically permit it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NoScript will also block it, and if you configure it to block by default, Tynt's code will never execute unless you specifically permit it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768500</id>
	<title>X FTW</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263498720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Selection to alternate clipboard (or whatever it's called) doesn't suffer from this nonsense<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</htmltext>
<tokenext>Selection to alternate clipboard ( or whatever it 's called ) does n't suffer from this nonsense : D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Selection to alternate clipboard (or whatever it's called) doesn't suffer from this nonsense :D</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30780648</id>
	<title>Re:Why collect that data?</title>
	<author>PAStheLoD</author>
	<datestamp>1263579480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>JS can't read from the clipboard, only write to. So your passwords are safe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>JS ca n't read from the clipboard , only write to .
So your passwords are safe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>JS can't read from the clipboard, only write to.
So your passwords are safe.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768552</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771462</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1263466200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>We are currently working on a global opt out for users who would rather not have Tynt monitor them.</i></p><p>Why would you even LAUNCH this without a global out-out?</p><p>I mean, I don't really object to your service, but... well... what the holy fuck were you thinking in the first place? Even the seediest porn ad networks have global opt-out, it's virtually *required* when doing business on the web, and you need to walk into your boss's office right now and smack him for allowing that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We are currently working on a global opt out for users who would rather not have Tynt monitor them.Why would you even LAUNCH this without a global out-out ? I mean , I do n't really object to your service , but... well... what the holy fuck were you thinking in the first place ?
Even the seediest porn ad networks have global opt-out , it 's virtually * required * when doing business on the web , and you need to walk into your boss 's office right now and smack him for allowing that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We are currently working on a global opt out for users who would rather not have Tynt monitor them.Why would you even LAUNCH this without a global out-out?I mean, I don't really object to your service, but... well... what the holy fuck were you thinking in the first place?
Even the seediest porn ad networks have global opt-out, it's virtually *required* when doing business on the web, and you need to walk into your boss's office right now and smack him for allowing that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768844</id>
	<title>Re:Trolls?</title>
	<author>TyntGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1263500040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>We're not a big company, and I can tell you I'm the only Tynt guy commenting here.  Derek</htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're not a big company , and I can tell you I 'm the only Tynt guy commenting here .
Derek</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We're not a big company, and I can tell you I'm the only Tynt guy commenting here.
Derek</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768510</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768524</id>
	<title>Re:Habits</title>
	<author>ColdWetDog</author>
	<datestamp>1263498780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow, who (or what) came through and troll modded everything?  One of the editors have a <i>really</i> bad day?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , who ( or what ) came through and troll modded everything ?
One of the editors have a really bad day ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, who (or what) came through and troll modded everything?
One of the editors have a really bad day?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30772106</id>
	<title>How would people know to opt out?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263469320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think I understand what you're trying to do here, and for those who want it, it sounds like a very useful service.<br>Frankly, I'd like the option to have my web browser to do something like this automatically when I copy and paste from any site (but not if it means sending the text to other servers, unfortunately).</p><p>However, as an end-user, if I hadn't come across this article on Slashdot, how would I know to opt out?  And if I highlighted text and never copied-and-pasted it, how would I know that everything I highlighted was being sent to your servers?  (Like other readers, I often highlight to make text easier to read and to keep my place within an article.)</p><p>In other words, it's great that I'm a reasonably tech-savvy person who reads Slashdot, but my parents aren't necessarily, and they have many of the same privacy concerns I do.  What about them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think I understand what you 're trying to do here , and for those who want it , it sounds like a very useful service.Frankly , I 'd like the option to have my web browser to do something like this automatically when I copy and paste from any site ( but not if it means sending the text to other servers , unfortunately ) .However , as an end-user , if I had n't come across this article on Slashdot , how would I know to opt out ?
And if I highlighted text and never copied-and-pasted it , how would I know that everything I highlighted was being sent to your servers ?
( Like other readers , I often highlight to make text easier to read and to keep my place within an article .
) In other words , it 's great that I 'm a reasonably tech-savvy person who reads Slashdot , but my parents are n't necessarily , and they have many of the same privacy concerns I do .
What about them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think I understand what you're trying to do here, and for those who want it, it sounds like a very useful service.Frankly, I'd like the option to have my web browser to do something like this automatically when I copy and paste from any site (but not if it means sending the text to other servers, unfortunately).However, as an end-user, if I hadn't come across this article on Slashdot, how would I know to opt out?
And if I highlighted text and never copied-and-pasted it, how would I know that everything I highlighted was being sent to your servers?
(Like other readers, I often highlight to make text easier to read and to keep my place within an article.
)In other words, it's great that I'm a reasonably tech-savvy person who reads Slashdot, but my parents aren't necessarily, and they have many of the same privacy concerns I do.
What about them?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768684</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>mystik</author>
	<datestamp>1263499320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My quick 'how it works assessment w/o tracing the code' is that it detects when you create a range of highlighted text, the inserts an invisible image with alt text @ the very end of the selection.  It's not touching the clipboard, it's simply "altering" what you selected to copy  @ the last second before the user copies it to the clipboard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My quick 'how it works assessment w/o tracing the code ' is that it detects when you create a range of highlighted text , the inserts an invisible image with alt text @ the very end of the selection .
It 's not touching the clipboard , it 's simply " altering " what you selected to copy @ the last second before the user copies it to the clipboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My quick 'how it works assessment w/o tracing the code' is that it detects when you create a range of highlighted text, the inserts an invisible image with alt text @ the very end of the selection.
It's not touching the clipboard, it's simply "altering" what you selected to copy  @ the last second before the user copies it to the clipboard.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768124</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768510</id>
	<title>Trolls?</title>
	<author>jgtg32a</author>
	<datestamp>1263498780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does Tynt have multiple<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. accounts or something?  I've never seen so many posts marked Troll</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does Tynt have multiple / .
accounts or something ?
I 've never seen so many posts marked Troll</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does Tynt have multiple /.
accounts or something?
I've never seen so many posts marked Troll</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768868</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263500100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perhaps some of the code from the Linux kernel would be good? If we could get 50\% of the people copying text to have this silly site think they are all copying snippets of Linux code it would be pretty funny.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps some of the code from the Linux kernel would be good ?
If we could get 50 \ % of the people copying text to have this silly site think they are all copying snippets of Linux code it would be pretty funny .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps some of the code from the Linux kernel would be good?
If we could get 50\% of the people copying text to have this silly site think they are all copying snippets of Linux code it would be pretty funny.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768750</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30773162</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263474180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This isn't a minor detail. Tynt sends *everything you highlight on a page* to its servers, along with your IP -- not only things you copy. As one of the links in the post mentions, that's potentially a violation of some countries' privacy laws. It borders on passively monitoring your computer...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't a minor detail .
Tynt sends * everything you highlight on a page * to its servers , along with your IP -- not only things you copy .
As one of the links in the post mentions , that 's potentially a violation of some countries ' privacy laws .
It borders on passively monitoring your computer.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't a minor detail.
Tynt sends *everything you highlight on a page* to its servers, along with your IP -- not only things you copy.
As one of the links in the post mentions, that's potentially a violation of some countries' privacy laws.
It borders on passively monitoring your computer...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768224</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770118</id>
	<title>Re:Habits</title>
	<author>nahdude812</author>
	<datestamp>1263461220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tend to double-click the word or sentence I'm on to select it just before I scroll.  Helps me keep my reading pace up since I don't lose track of my position.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tend to double-click the word or sentence I 'm on to select it just before I scroll .
Helps me keep my reading pace up since I do n't lose track of my position .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tend to double-click the word or sentence I'm on to select it just before I scroll.
Helps me keep my reading pace up since I don't lose track of my position.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768932</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1263500280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There&rsquo;s a giant problem with this:<br>- You are not going to inspect every JavaScript you want to allow.<br>- Which means that you only might know what it does, when you enabled it.<br>Which makes the whole exercise kind of pointless.</p><p>An example is a MySpace or YouTube XSS script. Those sites are not usable without JS. So you enable it. But they are also the sites that are targeted the most. And that&rsquo;s the problem.</p><p>Does NoScript have a automatically updated white-list? And if yes, who decides what gets in there?</p><p>All in all, it sounds very much like a half-assed illusion of a solution. Unfortunately.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There    s a giant problem with this : - You are not going to inspect every JavaScript you want to allow.- Which means that you only might know what it does , when you enabled it.Which makes the whole exercise kind of pointless.An example is a MySpace or YouTube XSS script .
Those sites are not usable without JS .
So you enable it .
But they are also the sites that are targeted the most .
And that    s the problem.Does NoScript have a automatically updated white-list ?
And if yes , who decides what gets in there ? All in all , it sounds very much like a half-assed illusion of a solution .
Unfortunately. : /</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There’s a giant problem with this:- You are not going to inspect every JavaScript you want to allow.- Which means that you only might know what it does, when you enabled it.Which makes the whole exercise kind of pointless.An example is a MySpace or YouTube XSS script.
Those sites are not usable without JS.
So you enable it.
But they are also the sites that are targeted the most.
And that’s the problem.Does NoScript have a automatically updated white-list?
And if yes, who decides what gets in there?All in all, it sounds very much like a half-assed illusion of a solution.
Unfortunately. :/</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768096</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30772586</id>
	<title>Re:hosts file seems to work</title>
	<author>The MAZZTer</author>
	<datestamp>1263471480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Use 255.255.255.0 instead of 127.0.0.1, then the connection immediately fails as an invalid IP address instead of being rejected by your own computer or timing out or connecting to your locally run webserver.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Use 255.255.255.0 instead of 127.0.0.1 , then the connection immediately fails as an invalid IP address instead of being rejected by your own computer or timing out or connecting to your locally run webserver .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use 255.255.255.0 instead of 127.0.0.1, then the connection immediately fails as an invalid IP address instead of being rejected by your own computer or timing out or connecting to your locally run webserver.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768550</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30778862</id>
	<title>Re:Trolls?</title>
	<author>Nyder</author>
	<datestamp>1263570660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We're not a big company, and I can tell you I'm the only Tynt guy commenting here.  Derek</p></div><p>sucks to be you</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're not a big company , and I can tell you I 'm the only Tynt guy commenting here .
Dereksucks to be you</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We're not a big company, and I can tell you I'm the only Tynt guy commenting here.
Dereksucks to be you
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768844</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768386</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263498360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Not cookie based, not IP based, but stop it you creeps angry phone call based.</p></div><p>You are not know English?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not cookie based , not IP based , but stop it you creeps angry phone call based.You are not know English ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not cookie based, not IP based, but stop it you creeps angry phone call based.You are not know English?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768096</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768774</id>
	<title>It's a Feature</title>
	<author>ffejie</author>
	<datestamp>1263499680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't understand what the big deal is. I'm stealing someone's content to quote verbatim in an email, or something like that, they have the right to know they're being quoted. Maybe not the "right", but they should have the ability.<br> <br>

I also like that it recently added the trackback URL below the text I was copying. This is something I usually do when I send a quote to someone, and this saved me step. Pretty cool feature, if you ask me. I could see how it would be annoying, but it can also be handy.</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand what the big deal is .
I 'm stealing someone 's content to quote verbatim in an email , or something like that , they have the right to know they 're being quoted .
Maybe not the " right " , but they should have the ability .
I also like that it recently added the trackback URL below the text I was copying .
This is something I usually do when I send a quote to someone , and this saved me step .
Pretty cool feature , if you ask me .
I could see how it would be annoying , but it can also be handy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand what the big deal is.
I'm stealing someone's content to quote verbatim in an email, or something like that, they have the right to know they're being quoted.
Maybe not the "right", but they should have the ability.
I also like that it recently added the trackback URL below the text I was copying.
This is something I usually do when I send a quote to someone, and this saved me step.
Pretty cool feature, if you ask me.
I could see how it would be annoying, but it can also be handy.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768372</id>
	<title>Based on Selection</title>
	<author>CritterNYC</author>
	<datestamp>1263498300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's based on selecting text, not copying and pasting it.  So when you select the text in your browser, as soon as you finish making the selection, it sends the info on what you selected back to Tynt.  It also adds in the attribution link to the selected text (although you won't see it in the web page).  Then when you CTRL-C or right-click and copy as usual after making the selection, you get your selected text and the attribution link.</p><p>That's how it avoids needing to use Javascript to do anything to directly touch the clipboard (which is disabled by default in your browser for security reasons).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's based on selecting text , not copying and pasting it .
So when you select the text in your browser , as soon as you finish making the selection , it sends the info on what you selected back to Tynt .
It also adds in the attribution link to the selected text ( although you wo n't see it in the web page ) .
Then when you CTRL-C or right-click and copy as usual after making the selection , you get your selected text and the attribution link.That 's how it avoids needing to use Javascript to do anything to directly touch the clipboard ( which is disabled by default in your browser for security reasons ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's based on selecting text, not copying and pasting it.
So when you select the text in your browser, as soon as you finish making the selection, it sends the info on what you selected back to Tynt.
It also adds in the attribution link to the selected text (although you won't see it in the web page).
Then when you CTRL-C or right-click and copy as usual after making the selection, you get your selected text and the attribution link.That's how it avoids needing to use Javascript to do anything to directly touch the clipboard (which is disabled by default in your browser for security reasons).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768124</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30775906</id>
	<title>Re:Let it be</title>
	<author>Fantastic Lad</author>
	<datestamp>1263498480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>1. You get to read wired for free<br>2. You get to copy sections of their articles and post them to your own blogs<br>3. All wired gets is increased chance of attribution (you could still delete the link after pasting) and anonymous statistics on which portions of their stuff people found interesting.</i></p><p>You have it all backwards.  Yes, industry (and slave-masters) would very much like everybody to think that way, but really it works like this. . .</p><p>1. Wired is able to exist because your attention holds value.  They OWE their entire existence to you.  You are the prize, not them.<br>2. The material they give you is payment for the time and attention they extract from you.<br>3. By controlling and tagging your time and attention, they are attempting to increase the value they extract from you without increasing the value of the material they offer in return.  Since they do so without your consent, (and why should they?  The web is free range, after all.), then there is no reason to feel any sort of guilt in disabling their little tracking device in order to protect your value.</p><p>You owe them nothing, but they are the honey trap; just showing up is payment enough.  And you cause no danger to them in showing up, where by contrast, tracked data can be used to cause harm in a very real way.</p><p>-FL</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
You get to read wired for free2 .
You get to copy sections of their articles and post them to your own blogs3 .
All wired gets is increased chance of attribution ( you could still delete the link after pasting ) and anonymous statistics on which portions of their stuff people found interesting.You have it all backwards .
Yes , industry ( and slave-masters ) would very much like everybody to think that way , but really it works like this .
. .1 .
Wired is able to exist because your attention holds value .
They OWE their entire existence to you .
You are the prize , not them.2 .
The material they give you is payment for the time and attention they extract from you.3 .
By controlling and tagging your time and attention , they are attempting to increase the value they extract from you without increasing the value of the material they offer in return .
Since they do so without your consent , ( and why should they ?
The web is free range , after all .
) , then there is no reason to feel any sort of guilt in disabling their little tracking device in order to protect your value.You owe them nothing , but they are the honey trap ; just showing up is payment enough .
And you cause no danger to them in showing up , where by contrast , tracked data can be used to cause harm in a very real way.-FL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
You get to read wired for free2.
You get to copy sections of their articles and post them to your own blogs3.
All wired gets is increased chance of attribution (you could still delete the link after pasting) and anonymous statistics on which portions of their stuff people found interesting.You have it all backwards.
Yes, industry (and slave-masters) would very much like everybody to think that way, but really it works like this.
. .1.
Wired is able to exist because your attention holds value.
They OWE their entire existence to you.
You are the prize, not them.2.
The material they give you is payment for the time and attention they extract from you.3.
By controlling and tagging your time and attention, they are attempting to increase the value they extract from you without increasing the value of the material they offer in return.
Since they do so without your consent, (and why should they?
The web is free range, after all.
), then there is no reason to feel any sort of guilt in disabling their little tracking device in order to protect your value.You owe them nothing, but they are the honey trap; just showing up is payment enough.
And you cause no danger to them in showing up, where by contrast, tracked data can be used to cause harm in a very real way.-FL</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771172</id>
	<title>Re:hosts file seems to work</title>
	<author>elcheesmo</author>
	<datestamp>1263465060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I also had to add</p><p>127.0.0.1 w1.tcr62.tynt.com</p><p>I'm guessing that they have a huge pool of *.*.tynt.com addresses.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I also had to add127.0.0.1 w1.tcr62.tynt.comI 'm guessing that they have a huge pool of * .
* .tynt.com addresses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also had to add127.0.0.1 w1.tcr62.tynt.comI'm guessing that they have a huge pool of *.
*.tynt.com addresses.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768798</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263499800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe I'm doin' it wrong, but NoScript broke an awful lot of the web when I was running it using default settings. AdBlockPlus, on the other hand has a 0\% false positive rate for me.</p><p>If you want widespread adoption, I think the ABP route is the one to go for, even at the expense of letting some new/unknown scripts through.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe I 'm doin ' it wrong , but NoScript broke an awful lot of the web when I was running it using default settings .
AdBlockPlus , on the other hand has a 0 \ % false positive rate for me.If you want widespread adoption , I think the ABP route is the one to go for , even at the expense of letting some new/unknown scripts through .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe I'm doin' it wrong, but NoScript broke an awful lot of the web when I was running it using default settings.
AdBlockPlus, on the other hand has a 0\% false positive rate for me.If you want widespread adoption, I think the ABP route is the one to go for, even at the expense of letting some new/unknown scripts through.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768200</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769254</id>
	<title>Re:All Your base are belong to us</title>
	<author>gstoddart</author>
	<datestamp>1263501300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Please tell me that the writer is either a non-native English speaker, or they didn't read that twice?</p></div></blockquote><p>On Slashdot, the answer to an "or" question is almost always yes.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p><p>Cheers</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Please tell me that the writer is either a non-native English speaker , or they did n't read that twice ? On Slashdot , the answer to an " or " question is almost always yes .
; - ) Cheers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please tell me that the writer is either a non-native English speaker, or they didn't read that twice?On Slashdot, the answer to an "or" question is almost always yes.
;-)Cheers
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768512</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768710</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>pdboddy</author>
	<datestamp>1263499380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, it is Wired's content, but there are rules for fair use.<br> <br>

Some folks just use the highlighting part of copy to read.<br> <br>

Some folks copy and paste links to email themselves so they can find it later.  Likewise some folks copy and paste articles, in part or in whole, to themselves to read later.<br> <br>

People do get annoyed when websites do things without saying such things are being done.  Wired has every right to defend its content, however, it should do so in an open manner.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , it is Wired 's content , but there are rules for fair use .
Some folks just use the highlighting part of copy to read .
Some folks copy and paste links to email themselves so they can find it later .
Likewise some folks copy and paste articles , in part or in whole , to themselves to read later .
People do get annoyed when websites do things without saying such things are being done .
Wired has every right to defend its content , however , it should do so in an open manner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, it is Wired's content, but there are rules for fair use.
Some folks just use the highlighting part of copy to read.
Some folks copy and paste links to email themselves so they can find it later.
Likewise some folks copy and paste articles, in part or in whole, to themselves to read later.
People do get annoyed when websites do things without saying such things are being done.
Wired has every right to defend its content, however, it should do so in an open manner.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769108</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Joce640k</author>
	<datestamp>1263500760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>NoScript uses whitelisting so you have to click "allow scripts" whenever a website breaks. Permissions can be temporary or permanent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NoScript uses whitelisting so you have to click " allow scripts " whenever a website breaks .
Permissions can be temporary or permanent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NoScript uses whitelisting so you have to click "allow scripts" whenever a website breaks.
Permissions can be temporary or permanent.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768798</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768124</id>
	<title>Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263497640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought that to allow JavaScript to access the clipboard, you had to opt in, and even then, you can't really do it the right way under FireFox or Chrome.  Like, JavaScript clipboard access is an IE only thing.</p><p>
&nbsp; Are we sure this isn't a Java application or something?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought that to allow JavaScript to access the clipboard , you had to opt in , and even then , you ca n't really do it the right way under FireFox or Chrome .
Like , JavaScript clipboard access is an IE only thing .
  Are we sure this is n't a Java application or something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought that to allow JavaScript to access the clipboard, you had to opt in, and even then, you can't really do it the right way under FireFox or Chrome.
Like, JavaScript clipboard access is an IE only thing.
  Are we sure this isn't a Java application or something?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30778824</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263570300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your argument about sources and MLA is excellent food for thought. However, given how MLA ALA and others work, I'm sure we'd be better off with a solution which follows a standard for how this is done. It's pretty clear this isn't what tynt is trying to do given their implementation and the 'non-obvious' (ie: stealth) implementation of it on their client's web-sites.</p><p>However, as a browser/web standard this is something that maybe w3c should take a look at I certainly wouldn't mind making it easier to attribute work when I'm quoting or referencing it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your argument about sources and MLA is excellent food for thought .
However , given how MLA ALA and others work , I 'm sure we 'd be better off with a solution which follows a standard for how this is done .
It 's pretty clear this is n't what tynt is trying to do given their implementation and the 'non-obvious ' ( ie : stealth ) implementation of it on their client 's web-sites.However , as a browser/web standard this is something that maybe w3c should take a look at I certainly would n't mind making it easier to attribute work when I 'm quoting or referencing it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your argument about sources and MLA is excellent food for thought.
However, given how MLA ALA and others work, I'm sure we'd be better off with a solution which follows a standard for how this is done.
It's pretty clear this isn't what tynt is trying to do given their implementation and the 'non-obvious' (ie: stealth) implementation of it on their client's web-sites.However, as a browser/web standard this is something that maybe w3c should take a look at I certainly wouldn't mind making it easier to attribute work when I'm quoting or referencing it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768448</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769104</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Ollabelle</author>
	<datestamp>1263500760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why stop with snippets?  How about whole books at a time?  It'll amount to a DDoS attack on their servers....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why stop with snippets ?
How about whole books at a time ?
It 'll amount to a DDoS attack on their servers... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why stop with snippets?
How about whole books at a time?
It'll amount to a DDoS attack on their servers....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768750</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768734</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>fotbr</author>
	<datestamp>1263499560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Didn't notice anything on wired.com with either FF or IE.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't notice anything on wired.com with either FF or IE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't notice anything on wired.com with either FF or IE.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768272</id>
	<title>Habits</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1263498000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a habit of repeatedly selecting and deselecting text as I read it.  I probably selected the story blurb here 10 times while reading it.  It would be hard for them to mine that data for anything useful.  Not that I run strange javascript anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a habit of repeatedly selecting and deselecting text as I read it .
I probably selected the story blurb here 10 times while reading it .
It would be hard for them to mine that data for anything useful .
Not that I run strange javascript anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a habit of repeatedly selecting and deselecting text as I read it.
I probably selected the story blurb here 10 times while reading it.
It would be hard for them to mine that data for anything useful.
Not that I run strange javascript anyway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768780</id>
	<title>mod dow@n</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263499680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>prospects are All our times have That suuports dead. It is a dead</htmltext>
<tokenext>prospects are All our times have That suuports dead .
It is a dead</tokentext>
<sentencetext>prospects are All our times have That suuports dead.
It is a dead</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768550</id>
	<title>hosts file seems to work</title>
	<author>jtroutman</author>
	<datestamp>1263498840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I seem to have stopped this by adding the following to my hosts file:<br>127.0.0.1    www1.tynt.com<br>127.0.0.1    tynt.com<br>127.0.0.1    www.tynt.com<br>127.0.0.1    w1.tcr112.tynt.com</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I seem to have stopped this by adding the following to my hosts file : 127.0.0.1 www1.tynt.com127.0.0.1 tynt.com127.0.0.1 www.tynt.com127.0.0.1 w1.tcr112.tynt.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I seem to have stopped this by adding the following to my hosts file:127.0.0.1    www1.tynt.com127.0.0.1    tynt.com127.0.0.1    www.tynt.com127.0.0.1    w1.tcr112.tynt.com</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768826</id>
	<title>Or, to summarize...</title>
	<author>marcsherman</author>
	<datestamp>1263499920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Taint: not quite assholes, but pretty close.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Taint : not quite assholes , but pretty close .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Taint: not quite assholes, but pretty close.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768560</id>
	<title>Re:Other script blockers will work, as well</title>
	<author>pdboddy</author>
	<datestamp>1263498900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How the hell is the parent of this a troll?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How the hell is the parent of this a troll ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How the hell is the parent of this a troll?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768142</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769128</id>
	<title>Re:hosts file seems to work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263500820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You nullroute with 0.0.0.0<br>Don't use 127.0.0.1, it is loopback.</p><p>It is better and more effective to use 0.0.0.0.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You nullroute with 0.0.0.0Do n't use 127.0.0.1 , it is loopback.It is better and more effective to use 0.0.0.0 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You nullroute with 0.0.0.0Don't use 127.0.0.1, it is loopback.It is better and more effective to use 0.0.0.0.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770986</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263464400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh how I long for bygone days, before someone coined the phrase "opt-in", and then made it not an option the very next thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh how I long for bygone days , before someone coined the phrase " opt-in " , and then made it not an option the very next thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh how I long for bygone days, before someone coined the phrase "opt-in", and then made it not an option the very next thing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30773568</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263476520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From the looks of it, they're sending a word count back to the server by requesting an invisible<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.gif file. The request doesn't seem to contain the text that's actually been selected, just the number of words selected. As far as user tracking goes, that's probably as innocuous as you can get.</p><p>However, it does report when you've selected text, not when you copy it. So it likely generates a lot of false data.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From the looks of it , they 're sending a word count back to the server by requesting an invisible .gif file .
The request does n't seem to contain the text that 's actually been selected , just the number of words selected .
As far as user tracking goes , that 's probably as innocuous as you can get.However , it does report when you 've selected text , not when you copy it .
So it likely generates a lot of false data .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the looks of it, they're sending a word count back to the server by requesting an invisible .gif file.
The request doesn't seem to contain the text that's actually been selected, just the number of words selected.
As far as user tracking goes, that's probably as innocuous as you can get.However, it does report when you've selected text, not when you copy it.
So it likely generates a lot of false data.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769606</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30777000</id>
	<title>Re:How Tynt.com says to avoid being tracked...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263556200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're making the assumption that they develop software to do this.  The best way from a will work in all browsers point-of-view, is to use a cookie with your preference and have the javascript check the cookie to see if it is okay to send the info back to the server or not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're making the assumption that they develop software to do this .
The best way from a will work in all browsers point-of-view , is to use a cookie with your preference and have the javascript check the cookie to see if it is okay to send the info back to the server or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're making the assumption that they develop software to do this.
The best way from a will work in all browsers point-of-view, is to use a cookie with your preference and have the javascript check the cookie to see if it is okay to send the info back to the server or not.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768504</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769218</id>
	<title>Intercepting keyboard shortcuts</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263501180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've long wished the browsers would offer an option to stop pages (including plugins) from intercepting important keyboard shortcuts.  Every now and then I run across a site that intercepts Alt-D or Ctrl-E (and/or ctrl-k and ctrl-l), and they're annoying as hell.  Having to put my hand back on the mouse to click the address bar when I'm already ready to type the new address I want feels like the site is trying to stop me from leaving, one step short of a "Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page!?" popup.  And in almost every case it's either a gimmick by someone who apparently didn't know those shortcuts existed, or it's done in the name of 'accessibility', which I am all for right up to the point that the page is less accessible for me.</p><p>The browsers do (at least in current versions of FF and IE) ignore 'accesskey' attributes that conflict with their shortcuts, and NoScript helps with Javascript captures, but I still haven't found a way to get important browser shortcuts to be passed through Flash (ie, youtube).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've long wished the browsers would offer an option to stop pages ( including plugins ) from intercepting important keyboard shortcuts .
Every now and then I run across a site that intercepts Alt-D or Ctrl-E ( and/or ctrl-k and ctrl-l ) , and they 're annoying as hell .
Having to put my hand back on the mouse to click the address bar when I 'm already ready to type the new address I want feels like the site is trying to stop me from leaving , one step short of a " Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page ! ?
" popup .
And in almost every case it 's either a gimmick by someone who apparently did n't know those shortcuts existed , or it 's done in the name of 'accessibility ' , which I am all for right up to the point that the page is less accessible for me.The browsers do ( at least in current versions of FF and IE ) ignore 'accesskey ' attributes that conflict with their shortcuts , and NoScript helps with Javascript captures , but I still have n't found a way to get important browser shortcuts to be passed through Flash ( ie , youtube ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've long wished the browsers would offer an option to stop pages (including plugins) from intercepting important keyboard shortcuts.
Every now and then I run across a site that intercepts Alt-D or Ctrl-E (and/or ctrl-k and ctrl-l), and they're annoying as hell.
Having to put my hand back on the mouse to click the address bar when I'm already ready to type the new address I want feels like the site is trying to stop me from leaving, one step short of a "Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page!?
" popup.
And in almost every case it's either a gimmick by someone who apparently didn't know those shortcuts existed, or it's done in the name of 'accessibility', which I am all for right up to the point that the page is less accessible for me.The browsers do (at least in current versions of FF and IE) ignore 'accesskey' attributes that conflict with their shortcuts, and NoScript helps with Javascript captures, but I still haven't found a way to get important browser shortcuts to be passed through Flash (ie, youtube).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769988</id>
	<title>Make it play nice.</title>
	<author>pubwvj</author>
	<datestamp>1263460860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Turn off Java, Javascript, plugins. The web is so much nicer without those. Turn them on for sites you want them on. Machete them. Use something like Pithhelmet for Safari to hack the web back to your specs. Works for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Turn off Java , Javascript , plugins .
The web is so much nicer without those .
Turn them on for sites you want them on .
Machete them .
Use something like Pithhelmet for Safari to hack the web back to your specs .
Works for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Turn off Java, Javascript, plugins.
The web is so much nicer without those.
Turn them on for sites you want them on.
Machete them.
Use something like Pithhelmet for Safari to hack the web back to your specs.
Works for me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770608</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263463140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; In any case, I blacklist *.tynt.com in hosts.</p><p>AFAIK, wildcards don't work in hosts files, although it's a common misperception that they do. I think you can just add tynt.com and block the whole domain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; In any case , I blacklist * .tynt.com in hosts.AFAIK , wildcards do n't work in hosts files , although it 's a common misperception that they do .
I think you can just add tynt.com and block the whole domain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; In any case, I blacklist *.tynt.com in hosts.AFAIK, wildcards don't work in hosts files, although it's a common misperception that they do.
I think you can just add tynt.com and block the whole domain.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768224</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30788684</id>
	<title>Re:Trolls?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263634740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How did you know his name?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How did you know his name ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How did you know his name?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768844</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768880</id>
	<title>Re:Habits</title>
	<author>metrometro</author>
	<datestamp>1263500100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I have a habit of repeatedly selecting and deselecting text as I read it</i></p><p>Poor man's eyetracking. Which blurb are you reading? Oh, that one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a habit of repeatedly selecting and deselecting text as I read itPoor man 's eyetracking .
Which blurb are you reading ?
Oh , that one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a habit of repeatedly selecting and deselecting text as I read itPoor man's eyetracking.
Which blurb are you reading?
Oh, that one.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768740</id>
	<title>Re:If its just JS break it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263499560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Append this to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/etc/hosts:<br>#tynt makes browser bitch when you highlight things<br>#I have never seen a worse idea<br>#ever<br>#ever!<br>#seriously, screw that so much<br>#first one is the JS script host<br>#second is recipient of highlightings<br>0.0.0.0        tcr.tynt.com<br>0.0.0.0        w1.tcr70.tynt.co</p><p>I've known about this for ages because it makes Firefox act like it's loading a page whenever you highlight text. I do that habitually while reading.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Append this to /etc/hosts : # tynt makes browser bitch when you highlight things # I have never seen a worse idea # ever # ever ! # seriously , screw that so much # first one is the JS script host # second is recipient of highlightings0.0.0.0 tcr.tynt.com0.0.0.0 w1.tcr70.tynt.coI 've known about this for ages because it makes Firefox act like it 's loading a page whenever you highlight text .
I do that habitually while reading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Append this to /etc/hosts:#tynt makes browser bitch when you highlight things#I have never seen a worse idea#ever#ever!#seriously, screw that so much#first one is the JS script host#second is recipient of highlightings0.0.0.0        tcr.tynt.com0.0.0.0        w1.tcr70.tynt.coI've known about this for ages because it makes Firefox act like it's loading a page whenever you highlight text.
I do that habitually while reading.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768160</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768236</id>
	<title>Everything selected, not only copied?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263497880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In that case I hope they have enough server space.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In that case I hope they have enough server space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In that case I hope they have enough server space.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768292</id>
	<title>More of the same?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263498060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So let me get this straight. Because there are websites that are doing shady stuff with the text I select and such, you want me to install <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9609" title="mozilla.org" rel="nofollow">a Firefox Extension</a> [mozilla.org] that theoretically won't do anything shady with my stuff, even though <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/versions/license/86884" title="mozilla.org" rel="nofollow">its license</a> [mozilla.org] consists of</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Source code license for Ghostery 2.0.2<br>Copyright Ghostery, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.</p></div><p>And there's no source available.</p><p>Why should we trust the people behind Ghostery any more than a random website out there? If you're writing software to protect privacy and prevent data snooping, why make people trust more closed-source software?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So let me get this straight .
Because there are websites that are doing shady stuff with the text I select and such , you want me to install a Firefox Extension [ mozilla.org ] that theoretically wo n't do anything shady with my stuff , even though its license [ mozilla.org ] consists ofSource code license for Ghostery 2.0.2Copyright Ghostery , Inc. All Rights Reserved.And there 's no source available.Why should we trust the people behind Ghostery any more than a random website out there ?
If you 're writing software to protect privacy and prevent data snooping , why make people trust more closed-source software ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So let me get this straight.
Because there are websites that are doing shady stuff with the text I select and such, you want me to install a Firefox Extension [mozilla.org] that theoretically won't do anything shady with my stuff, even though its license [mozilla.org] consists ofSource code license for Ghostery 2.0.2Copyright Ghostery, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.And there's no source available.Why should we trust the people behind Ghostery any more than a random website out there?
If you're writing software to protect privacy and prevent data snooping, why make people trust more closed-source software?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771212</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>JohnFen</author>
	<datestamp>1263465240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Lastly, I would like to point out that another solution aside from Ghostery or Noscript is just to not use Wired's site at all.  Vote with your feet and bring your eyeballs elsewhere for pageviews and adclicks.</p></div><p>To be able to "vote with your feet," you have to know that the site is spying on you to begin with. The sites tend not to tell you, and it's a bit problematic to have to run every web interaction through a sniffer to catch the snoops.</p><p>The only realistic option is to block scripting.</p><p>The problem with Tynt, as others have pointed out, is not that they are "helping" us with attribution. It's that they are spying on what we highlight. Not what we copy -- although that would be bad enough (just because I copy it doesn't mean I'm republishing it) -- but what we highlight.</p><p>I actually believe that Tynt aren't trying to be bad guys here, but they're managing it just the same.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lastly , I would like to point out that another solution aside from Ghostery or Noscript is just to not use Wired 's site at all .
Vote with your feet and bring your eyeballs elsewhere for pageviews and adclicks.To be able to " vote with your feet , " you have to know that the site is spying on you to begin with .
The sites tend not to tell you , and it 's a bit problematic to have to run every web interaction through a sniffer to catch the snoops.The only realistic option is to block scripting.The problem with Tynt , as others have pointed out , is not that they are " helping " us with attribution .
It 's that they are spying on what we highlight .
Not what we copy -- although that would be bad enough ( just because I copy it does n't mean I 'm republishing it ) -- but what we highlight.I actually believe that Tynt are n't trying to be bad guys here , but they 're managing it just the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lastly, I would like to point out that another solution aside from Ghostery or Noscript is just to not use Wired's site at all.
Vote with your feet and bring your eyeballs elsewhere for pageviews and adclicks.To be able to "vote with your feet," you have to know that the site is spying on you to begin with.
The sites tend not to tell you, and it's a bit problematic to have to run every web interaction through a sniffer to catch the snoops.The only realistic option is to block scripting.The problem with Tynt, as others have pointed out, is not that they are "helping" us with attribution.
It's that they are spying on what we highlight.
Not what we copy -- although that would be bad enough (just because I copy it doesn't mean I'm republishing it) -- but what we highlight.I actually believe that Tynt aren't trying to be bad guys here, but they're managing it just the same.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768448</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768448</id>
	<title>Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263498600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't get it to work when I copy paste from Wired (must be something with my setup and javascript) <i>but</i> I will make the unpopular statement of saying that 1) you are copying and pasting Wired's content and 2) as early as high school I was taught that if I was copying information verbatim, I had better have some sort of reference (<a href="http://www.library.cornell.edu/resrch/citmanage/mla" title="cornell.edu">MLA preferred</a> [cornell.edu]).  <br> <br>

Now, on Slashdot I drop in a link on some text like just did up there.  But if I'm quoting it, I'll throw in a quote block and lead up to who said it and call it a day.  Now, let's imagine a world where all that was automated when you copied something and the text you copied came with XML metadata saying all the things like where you got it, when you got it, who wrote it, etc.  That could potentially be pretty useful.  If you think of the web as actual works belonging to people then you can start to see how legitimately referencing other works could be made a lot easier with stuff like this.  And maybe text editors could have plugins to digest it?  <br> <br>

Unfortunately the submitter and editor of this site seem to cry privacy violation at any attempt to move past the wild wild west anything goes attitude of the world wide web.  That's fine as this has an element of privacy concerns what with the phoning home.  But please consider the issue from Wired's side, from the side of the author and content creators.  They might just trying to help us with what we were taught in school.  <br> <br>

Lastly, I would like to point out that another solution aside from Ghostery or Noscript is just to not use Wired's site at all.  Vote with your feet and bring your eyeballs elsewhere for pageviews and adclicks.  I'm sure Wired's not losing a whole lot of adclicks if you do.</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't get it to work when I copy paste from Wired ( must be something with my setup and javascript ) but I will make the unpopular statement of saying that 1 ) you are copying and pasting Wired 's content and 2 ) as early as high school I was taught that if I was copying information verbatim , I had better have some sort of reference ( MLA preferred [ cornell.edu ] ) .
Now , on Slashdot I drop in a link on some text like just did up there .
But if I 'm quoting it , I 'll throw in a quote block and lead up to who said it and call it a day .
Now , let 's imagine a world where all that was automated when you copied something and the text you copied came with XML metadata saying all the things like where you got it , when you got it , who wrote it , etc .
That could potentially be pretty useful .
If you think of the web as actual works belonging to people then you can start to see how legitimately referencing other works could be made a lot easier with stuff like this .
And maybe text editors could have plugins to digest it ?
Unfortunately the submitter and editor of this site seem to cry privacy violation at any attempt to move past the wild wild west anything goes attitude of the world wide web .
That 's fine as this has an element of privacy concerns what with the phoning home .
But please consider the issue from Wired 's side , from the side of the author and content creators .
They might just trying to help us with what we were taught in school .
Lastly , I would like to point out that another solution aside from Ghostery or Noscript is just to not use Wired 's site at all .
Vote with your feet and bring your eyeballs elsewhere for pageviews and adclicks .
I 'm sure Wired 's not losing a whole lot of adclicks if you do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't get it to work when I copy paste from Wired (must be something with my setup and javascript) but I will make the unpopular statement of saying that 1) you are copying and pasting Wired's content and 2) as early as high school I was taught that if I was copying information verbatim, I had better have some sort of reference (MLA preferred [cornell.edu]).
Now, on Slashdot I drop in a link on some text like just did up there.
But if I'm quoting it, I'll throw in a quote block and lead up to who said it and call it a day.
Now, let's imagine a world where all that was automated when you copied something and the text you copied came with XML metadata saying all the things like where you got it, when you got it, who wrote it, etc.
That could potentially be pretty useful.
If you think of the web as actual works belonging to people then you can start to see how legitimately referencing other works could be made a lot easier with stuff like this.
And maybe text editors could have plugins to digest it?
Unfortunately the submitter and editor of this site seem to cry privacy violation at any attempt to move past the wild wild west anything goes attitude of the world wide web.
That's fine as this has an element of privacy concerns what with the phoning home.
But please consider the issue from Wired's side, from the side of the author and content creators.
They might just trying to help us with what we were taught in school.
Lastly, I would like to point out that another solution aside from Ghostery or Noscript is just to not use Wired's site at all.
Vote with your feet and bring your eyeballs elsewhere for pageviews and adclicks.
I'm sure Wired's not losing a whole lot of adclicks if you do.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771634</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263466860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't speak for everyone here, but I suspect a lot of people agree with the sentiment - Get the fuck off our internet!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't speak for everyone here , but I suspect a lot of people agree with the sentiment - Get the fuck off our internet !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't speak for everyone here, but I suspect a lot of people agree with the sentiment - Get the fuck off our internet!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771370</id>
	<title>Re:If its just JS break it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263465840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And if I could read your poor spelling, I might comment on your statement...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And if I could read your poor spelling , I might comment on your statement.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if I could read your poor spelling, I might comment on your statement...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768160</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768750</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>gknoy</author>
	<datestamp>1263499560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do it with something that is in the public domain.  Perhaps random snippets from a random Project Gutenberg article.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do it with something that is in the public domain .
Perhaps random snippets from a random Project Gutenberg article .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do it with something that is in the public domain.
Perhaps random snippets from a random Project Gutenberg article.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769282</id>
	<title>Re:Habits</title>
	<author>Evro</author>
	<datestamp>1263501360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I also select text as I read it.  Usually I'll select a line in a story and use the selected text as a visual marker so I can press Page Down and quickly see where I left off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I also select text as I read it .
Usually I 'll select a line in a story and use the selected text as a visual marker so I can press Page Down and quickly see where I left off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also select text as I read it.
Usually I'll select a line in a story and use the selected text as a visual marker so I can press Page Down and quickly see where I left off.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771658</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>kindbud</author>
	<datestamp>1263466980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No one has any right to change what my mouse does.  Not right-click, not select, nothing.  Period, end of story, this is not up for debate:  You, personally, are doing evil.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No one has any right to change what my mouse does .
Not right-click , not select , nothing .
Period , end of story , this is not up for debate : You , personally , are doing evil .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No one has any right to change what my mouse does.
Not right-click, not select, nothing.
Period, end of story, this is not up for debate:  You, personally, are doing evil.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768614</id>
	<title>Re:Why collect that data?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263499140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People using an OS that actually matters do not paste using middle click.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People using an OS that actually matters do not paste using middle click .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People using an OS that actually matters do not paste using middle click.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768360</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769144</id>
	<title>Re:Why do they even need the text posted back?</title>
	<author>LordKazan</author>
	<datestamp>1263500880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that's the point.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that 's the point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that's the point.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768420</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770510</id>
	<title>Re:Quick and easy "plaintextify" for Windows</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1263462780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use Windows Notepad, because it works for multiple lines of text.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Windows Notepad , because it works for multiple lines of text .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Windows Notepad, because it works for multiple lines of text.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768586</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30776254</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>mahesh69a</author>
	<datestamp>1263546300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>NoScript rocks - some of my friends are too lazy to use it (you know one click for temporarily allow or allow permanently) and then complain of all the scripts - I feel like hitting them with a key board or something<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)

NoScript + AdBlockPlus + WebOfTrust (WOT) gives one of the safest browsing experiences.</htmltext>
<tokenext>NoScript rocks - some of my friends are too lazy to use it ( you know one click for temporarily allow or allow permanently ) and then complain of all the scripts - I feel like hitting them with a key board or something : - ) NoScript + AdBlockPlus + WebOfTrust ( WOT ) gives one of the safest browsing experiences .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NoScript rocks - some of my friends are too lazy to use it (you know one click for temporarily allow or allow permanently) and then complain of all the scripts - I feel like hitting them with a key board or something :-)

NoScript + AdBlockPlus + WebOfTrust (WOT) gives one of the safest browsing experiences.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768096</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768840</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>dannydawg5</author>
	<datestamp>1263499980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've noticed that RequestPolicy...<br><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9727/" title="mozilla.org" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9727/</a> [mozilla.org]</p><p>requires much less management.  NoScript constantly updates and constantly requires white-listing sites to be able to use them.  RequestPolicy defaults to denying just the off-site JavaScript, which is the JavaScript I care the most to deny.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've noticed that RequestPolicy...https : //addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9727/ [ mozilla.org ] requires much less management .
NoScript constantly updates and constantly requires white-listing sites to be able to use them .
RequestPolicy defaults to denying just the off-site JavaScript , which is the JavaScript I care the most to deny .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've noticed that RequestPolicy...https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9727/ [mozilla.org]requires much less management.
NoScript constantly updates and constantly requires white-listing sites to be able to use them.
RequestPolicy defaults to denying just the off-site JavaScript, which is the JavaScript I care the most to deny.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768096</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30772722</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263472140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>haha me too, thought I was the only one!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>haha me too , thought I was the only one !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>haha me too, thought I was the only one!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30777556</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263562020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>If you want to see what is actually collected - sign up for an account </i></p><p>This might actually help you to make hitherto anonymous information identifiable. I wouldn't know.</p><p>
&nbsp; <i>We are currently working on a global opt out</i></p><p>What gives you the right to opt-in the whole world? What you do may be fine in the US but it's at least questionable in my country.</p><p>Why wasn't an opt-out available from day one? I am still subscribed to one newsletter which promises that unsubscribing will be implemented real soon now. With e-mail, I can at least set s.th. up to shove their newsletter, erm, back to them until maybe they unsubscribe me. At least support your claim by a real-world date when unsubscribing will be available.</p><p>Fortunately I noticed Tynt due to a bug with an old browser. At first I thought the site had been hacked and banned it. Their loss and yours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want to see what is actually collected - sign up for an account This might actually help you to make hitherto anonymous information identifiable .
I would n't know .
  We are currently working on a global opt outWhat gives you the right to opt-in the whole world ?
What you do may be fine in the US but it 's at least questionable in my country.Why was n't an opt-out available from day one ?
I am still subscribed to one newsletter which promises that unsubscribing will be implemented real soon now .
With e-mail , I can at least set s.th .
up to shove their newsletter , erm , back to them until maybe they unsubscribe me .
At least support your claim by a real-world date when unsubscribing will be available.Fortunately I noticed Tynt due to a bug with an old browser .
At first I thought the site had been hacked and banned it .
Their loss and yours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want to see what is actually collected - sign up for an account This might actually help you to make hitherto anonymous information identifiable.
I wouldn't know.
  We are currently working on a global opt outWhat gives you the right to opt-in the whole world?
What you do may be fine in the US but it's at least questionable in my country.Why wasn't an opt-out available from day one?
I am still subscribed to one newsletter which promises that unsubscribing will be implemented real soon now.
With e-mail, I can at least set s.th.
up to shove their newsletter, erm, back to them until maybe they unsubscribe me.
At least support your claim by a real-world date when unsubscribing will be available.Fortunately I noticed Tynt due to a bug with an old browser.
At first I thought the site had been hacked and banned it.
Their loss and yours.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769578</id>
	<title>Adblock Plus and</title>
	<author>landoltjp</author>
	<datestamp>1263502320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another site I read mentioned that it's blocked in the AdBlock Plus EasyPrivacy subscription. <a href="https://adblockplus.org/en/subscriptions" title="adblockplus.org">https://adblockplus.org/en/subscriptions</a> [adblockplus.org] </p><p>I added that subscription and it worked like a charm</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another site I read mentioned that it 's blocked in the AdBlock Plus EasyPrivacy subscription .
https : //adblockplus.org/en/subscriptions [ adblockplus.org ] I added that subscription and it worked like a charm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another site I read mentioned that it's blocked in the AdBlock Plus EasyPrivacy subscription.
https://adblockplus.org/en/subscriptions [adblockplus.org] I added that subscription and it worked like a charm</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30778964</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Nyder</author>
	<datestamp>1263571140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I work for Tynt. I appreciate the discussion here and want to make sure that everyone knows we want to be respectful of the opinions here. Not sure i I will get flamed just for wading in, but I hope not.</p><p>To clarify on a few points</p><p>1. Tracking and Attribution &ndash; the attribution feature is separate from the tracking features. The tracking features work very much like any other analytics tool. We do not store any personally identifiable information, but we do want to help publishers learn what content people are choosing to preserve and promote. In addition, publishers can turn the attribution feature on or off on their sites.  If you want to see what is actually collected - sign up for an account and look at the dashboard, you will see that we are tracking the content, not the user.</p><p>3. What if I don&rsquo;t want this behavior? We are currently working on a global opt out for users who would rather not have Tynt monitor them. In the interim you can opt out on a site by site basis (i.e. the opt out for the SF Gate is here: <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/chronicle/faq.shtml#faq1.5\%23ixzz0bxLIAbL7" title="sfgate.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/chronicle/faq.shtml#faq1.5\%23ixzz0bxLIAbL7</a> [sfgate.com]). More info on how to not have Tynt monitor you is available in our FAQs here: <a href="http://www1.tynt.com/faq-technical-topics#ixzz0bxGzIgPZ" title="tynt.com" rel="nofollow">http://www1.tynt.com/faq-technical-topics#ixzz0bxGzIgPZ</a> [tynt.com]</p><p>but as pointed out in the comments here, NoScript is a very effective tool for this.</p><p>Derek</p></div><p>thats all good and well.</p><p>Except:</p><p>What happens when the owner of Tynt decides to sell the company?  Is the new owner going to keep doing what you say your doing?</p><p>We are talking about the tech world, where new startups get bought up left and right.</p><p>how about if someone happens to copy and paste something that isn't legal in possible the USA but is okay in another country.  You going to give up all the info on the person at the request of the law enforcement?</p><p>Honestly, I don't like how you choose to make your paycheck.    I seriously hope this sort of business model doesn't pan out, and that you, well, go broke, and do the honorable thing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I work for Tynt .
I appreciate the discussion here and want to make sure that everyone knows we want to be respectful of the opinions here .
Not sure i I will get flamed just for wading in , but I hope not.To clarify on a few points1 .
Tracking and Attribution    the attribution feature is separate from the tracking features .
The tracking features work very much like any other analytics tool .
We do not store any personally identifiable information , but we do want to help publishers learn what content people are choosing to preserve and promote .
In addition , publishers can turn the attribution feature on or off on their sites .
If you want to see what is actually collected - sign up for an account and look at the dashboard , you will see that we are tracking the content , not the user.3 .
What if I don    t want this behavior ?
We are currently working on a global opt out for users who would rather not have Tynt monitor them .
In the interim you can opt out on a site by site basis ( i.e .
the opt out for the SF Gate is here : http : //www.sfgate.com/chronicle/faq.shtml # faq1.5 \ % 23ixzz0bxLIAbL7 [ sfgate.com ] ) .
More info on how to not have Tynt monitor you is available in our FAQs here : http : //www1.tynt.com/faq-technical-topics # ixzz0bxGzIgPZ [ tynt.com ] but as pointed out in the comments here , NoScript is a very effective tool for this.Derekthats all good and well.Except : What happens when the owner of Tynt decides to sell the company ?
Is the new owner going to keep doing what you say your doing ? We are talking about the tech world , where new startups get bought up left and right.how about if someone happens to copy and paste something that is n't legal in possible the USA but is okay in another country .
You going to give up all the info on the person at the request of the law enforcement ? Honestly , I do n't like how you choose to make your paycheck .
I seriously hope this sort of business model does n't pan out , and that you , well , go broke , and do the honorable thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work for Tynt.
I appreciate the discussion here and want to make sure that everyone knows we want to be respectful of the opinions here.
Not sure i I will get flamed just for wading in, but I hope not.To clarify on a few points1.
Tracking and Attribution – the attribution feature is separate from the tracking features.
The tracking features work very much like any other analytics tool.
We do not store any personally identifiable information, but we do want to help publishers learn what content people are choosing to preserve and promote.
In addition, publishers can turn the attribution feature on or off on their sites.
If you want to see what is actually collected - sign up for an account and look at the dashboard, you will see that we are tracking the content, not the user.3.
What if I don’t want this behavior?
We are currently working on a global opt out for users who would rather not have Tynt monitor them.
In the interim you can opt out on a site by site basis (i.e.
the opt out for the SF Gate is here: http://www.sfgate.com/chronicle/faq.shtml#faq1.5\%23ixzz0bxLIAbL7 [sfgate.com]).
More info on how to not have Tynt monitor you is available in our FAQs here: http://www1.tynt.com/faq-technical-topics#ixzz0bxGzIgPZ [tynt.com]but as pointed out in the comments here, NoScript is a very effective tool for this.Derekthats all good and well.Except:What happens when the owner of Tynt decides to sell the company?
Is the new owner going to keep doing what you say your doing?We are talking about the tech world, where new startups get bought up left and right.how about if someone happens to copy and paste something that isn't legal in possible the USA but is okay in another country.
You going to give up all the info on the person at the request of the law enforcement?Honestly, I don't like how you choose to make your paycheck.
I seriously hope this sort of business model doesn't pan out, and that you, well, go broke, and do the honorable thing.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770024</id>
	<title>Am I Missing Something?</title>
	<author>MyFirstNameIsPaul</author>
	<datestamp>1263460980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even with ABP disabled for wired.com NoScript doesn't report a tynt.com script.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even with ABP disabled for wired.com NoScript does n't report a tynt.com script .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even with ABP disabled for wired.com NoScript doesn't report a tynt.com script.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768096</id>
	<title>use noscript!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263497580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only run the javascript you want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only run the javascript you want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only run the javascript you want.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771664</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263467040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you think that people manually copying and pasting parts of your website is a threat to your business model, then I have bad news for you...</p><p>"bring [my] eyeballs elsewhere for pageviews and adclicks"</p><p>
&nbsp; You think I'm a bad person because I block ads, don't you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you think that people manually copying and pasting parts of your website is a threat to your business model , then I have bad news for you... " bring [ my ] eyeballs elsewhere for pageviews and adclicks "   You think I 'm a bad person because I block ads , do n't you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you think that people manually copying and pasting parts of your website is a threat to your business model, then I have bad news for you..."bring [my] eyeballs elsewhere for pageviews and adclicks"
  You think I'm a bad person because I block ads, don't you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768448</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769314</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>LordKazan</author>
	<datestamp>1263501480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A user shouldn't have to opt out of having slimeball tracking software.  In fact, tracking software should have to disclose it's presence up front.  Until you switch to Opt-in I blocked your entire domain at the firewalls I control.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A user should n't have to opt out of having slimeball tracking software .
In fact , tracking software should have to disclose it 's presence up front .
Until you switch to Opt-in I blocked your entire domain at the firewalls I control .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A user shouldn't have to opt out of having slimeball tracking software.
In fact, tracking software should have to disclose it's presence up front.
Until you switch to Opt-in I blocked your entire domain at the firewalls I control.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30775736</id>
	<title>Re:Why collect that data?</title>
	<author>UberMorlock</author>
	<datestamp>1263495720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use Tynt's service on a cattery website for which I am responsible (<a href="http://www.tabaxipixiebob.com/" title="tabaxipixiebob.com" rel="nofollow">www.tabaxipixiebob.com</a> [tabaxipixiebob.com]).  The primary reason I use Tynt's service is for the attribution link because I need to know if another Pixie Bob breeder copies the site owner's content and uses it on their site.  This has happened to at least one other breeder that I know of, where that person's personal information (information about their employment, the name of their spouse, etc) was copied and used verbatim.  So, if something like this happens, then I need to be able to contact that breeder and negotiate a change to the content of their site.  The attribution service also can help generate backlinks to the site, assisting with search rankings and such.</p><p>The other reason I use it is because I want to be able to improve the content on the site.  So, if I know what content is being highlighted while being read, then I know what parts of a page are generating interest.  A heat map, of sorts, and content that is not highlighted as often probably needs improvement.  I view this aspect of Tynt as no different than a writer or movie producer lurking in forums where their work is being discussed to find out what parts are most interesting and what is most criticized/lampooned.  I'll grant that I am not *asking* visitors whether they want to share this data, but at the same time, it isn't like I can exactly have a conversation with even a small fraction of the people who visit the site since I have no idea who they are or how to contact them.  If I could round up a focus group and get some feedback, then I wouldn't need to use Tynt for this (but I would still use it for the attribution part of the service).</p><p>Hope this helps to demystify the use of Tynt a little for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Tynt 's service on a cattery website for which I am responsible ( www.tabaxipixiebob.com [ tabaxipixiebob.com ] ) .
The primary reason I use Tynt 's service is for the attribution link because I need to know if another Pixie Bob breeder copies the site owner 's content and uses it on their site .
This has happened to at least one other breeder that I know of , where that person 's personal information ( information about their employment , the name of their spouse , etc ) was copied and used verbatim .
So , if something like this happens , then I need to be able to contact that breeder and negotiate a change to the content of their site .
The attribution service also can help generate backlinks to the site , assisting with search rankings and such.The other reason I use it is because I want to be able to improve the content on the site .
So , if I know what content is being highlighted while being read , then I know what parts of a page are generating interest .
A heat map , of sorts , and content that is not highlighted as often probably needs improvement .
I view this aspect of Tynt as no different than a writer or movie producer lurking in forums where their work is being discussed to find out what parts are most interesting and what is most criticized/lampooned .
I 'll grant that I am not * asking * visitors whether they want to share this data , but at the same time , it is n't like I can exactly have a conversation with even a small fraction of the people who visit the site since I have no idea who they are or how to contact them .
If I could round up a focus group and get some feedback , then I would n't need to use Tynt for this ( but I would still use it for the attribution part of the service ) .Hope this helps to demystify the use of Tynt a little for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Tynt's service on a cattery website for which I am responsible (www.tabaxipixiebob.com [tabaxipixiebob.com]).
The primary reason I use Tynt's service is for the attribution link because I need to know if another Pixie Bob breeder copies the site owner's content and uses it on their site.
This has happened to at least one other breeder that I know of, where that person's personal information (information about their employment, the name of their spouse, etc) was copied and used verbatim.
So, if something like this happens, then I need to be able to contact that breeder and negotiate a change to the content of their site.
The attribution service also can help generate backlinks to the site, assisting with search rankings and such.The other reason I use it is because I want to be able to improve the content on the site.
So, if I know what content is being highlighted while being read, then I know what parts of a page are generating interest.
A heat map, of sorts, and content that is not highlighted as often probably needs improvement.
I view this aspect of Tynt as no different than a writer or movie producer lurking in forums where their work is being discussed to find out what parts are most interesting and what is most criticized/lampooned.
I'll grant that I am not *asking* visitors whether they want to share this data, but at the same time, it isn't like I can exactly have a conversation with even a small fraction of the people who visit the site since I have no idea who they are or how to contact them.
If I could round up a focus group and get some feedback, then I wouldn't need to use Tynt for this (but I would still use it for the attribution part of the service).Hope this helps to demystify the use of Tynt a little for you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768360</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30776946</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263555780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rather than double-clicking, I repeatedly select random bits of text I'm reading.  I'd be great if this sort of behaviour overloaded their servers or at least made the data useless, unfortunately I use NoScript, so they are blocked by default and my behaviour won't affect them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rather than double-clicking , I repeatedly select random bits of text I 'm reading .
I 'd be great if this sort of behaviour overloaded their servers or at least made the data useless , unfortunately I use NoScript , so they are blocked by default and my behaviour wo n't affect them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rather than double-clicking, I repeatedly select random bits of text I'm reading.
I'd be great if this sort of behaviour overloaded their servers or at least made the data useless, unfortunately I use NoScript, so they are blocked by default and my behaviour won't affect them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771762</id>
	<title>Re:How Tynt.com says to avoid being tracked...</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1263467520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You do realize they didn't make either one of those things you're talking about installing, right?</p><p>The irony is that you're bitching about installing 'software they've written' yet<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... you then follow up with saying you using the exact software they suggest.</p><p>Are you really that retarded?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do realize they did n't make either one of those things you 're talking about installing , right ? The irony is that you 're bitching about installing 'software they 've written ' yet ... you then follow up with saying you using the exact software they suggest.Are you really that retarded ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You do realize they didn't make either one of those things you're talking about installing, right?The irony is that you're bitching about installing 'software they've written' yet ... you then follow up with saying you using the exact software they suggest.Are you really that retarded?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768504</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30777384</id>
	<title>Re:Other script blockers will work, as well</title>
	<author>himitsu</author>
	<datestamp>1263560280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you work your way outward it won't be on your whitelist unless you allow it.  It's not on my whitelist because I forbid everything by default and enable JS when I see a need.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you work your way outward it wo n't be on your whitelist unless you allow it .
It 's not on my whitelist because I forbid everything by default and enable JS when I see a need .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you work your way outward it won't be on your whitelist unless you allow it.
It's not on my whitelist because I forbid everything by default and enable JS when I see a need.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769634</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768204</id>
	<title>What?  NEXT!</title>
	<author>showmeshowyoukikoman</author>
	<datestamp>1263497760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You have no idea what you're talking about.  NEXT!</htmltext>
<tokenext>You have no idea what you 're talking about .
NEXT !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have no idea what you're talking about.
NEXT!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769102</id>
	<title>I'm in ur clipboard...</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1263500760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...<a href="http://lolcat.com/pics/watchinufapkitten.jpg" title="lolcat.com">watching ur copies</a> [lolcat.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>...watching ur copies [ lolcat.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...watching ur copies [lolcat.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768484</id>
	<title>It's insane, that guy's Tynt</title>
	<author>0xdeadbeef</author>
	<datestamp>1263498720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Noscript FTW.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Noscript FTW .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Noscript FTW.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769424</id>
	<title>Re:More of the same?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263501840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks to your posting we were able to determine your exact location to within 3 meters. A thought patrol has been sent to collect you for reconditioning. Have a pleasant day. Or else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks to your posting we were able to determine your exact location to within 3 meters .
A thought patrol has been sent to collect you for reconditioning .
Have a pleasant day .
Or else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks to your posting we were able to determine your exact location to within 3 meters.
A thought patrol has been sent to collect you for reconditioning.
Have a pleasant day.
Or else.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768292</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768284</id>
	<title>As Seen @ DemoCamp</title>
	<author>Akoman</author>
	<datestamp>1263498000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>DemoCamp in Edmonton got a demo of this backbreakingly suit-oriented piece of software. It's a sign of how all DemoCamps slowly become lame as shit that all of the Q &amp; A was spent with the suits asking about how they make money or providing advice on that point rather than commenting or asking about the technology.</htmltext>
<tokenext>DemoCamp in Edmonton got a demo of this backbreakingly suit-oriented piece of software .
It 's a sign of how all DemoCamps slowly become lame as shit that all of the Q &amp; A was spent with the suits asking about how they make money or providing advice on that point rather than commenting or asking about the technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DemoCamp in Edmonton got a demo of this backbreakingly suit-oriented piece of software.
It's a sign of how all DemoCamps slowly become lame as shit that all of the Q &amp; A was spent with the suits asking about how they make money or providing advice on that point rather than commenting or asking about the technology.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768720</id>
	<title>Makes so much sense now...</title>
	<author>FreakinSyco</author>
	<datestamp>1263499500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This must have been placed on a bunch of websites recently. I'm a habitual "highlight as I read" person. I noticed a couple months back that quite a few websites started the FireFox activity indicator spinning when I highlighted (New York Times included).</p><p>I wonder how much useful information this "service" is actually providing to content hosters. I must send dozens of small chuncks of text every time I read an article.</p><p>Can I disable this through AdBlock?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This must have been placed on a bunch of websites recently .
I 'm a habitual " highlight as I read " person .
I noticed a couple months back that quite a few websites started the FireFox activity indicator spinning when I highlighted ( New York Times included ) .I wonder how much useful information this " service " is actually providing to content hosters .
I must send dozens of small chuncks of text every time I read an article.Can I disable this through AdBlock ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This must have been placed on a bunch of websites recently.
I'm a habitual "highlight as I read" person.
I noticed a couple months back that quite a few websites started the FireFox activity indicator spinning when I highlighted (New York Times included).I wonder how much useful information this "service" is actually providing to content hosters.
I must send dozens of small chuncks of text every time I read an article.Can I disable this through AdBlock?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769950</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>dhTardis</author>
	<datestamp>1263460740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1) you are copying and pasting Wired's content and 2) as early as high school I was taught that if I was copying information verbatim, I had better have some sort of reference</p></div><ul> <li>What if I see a phrase on Wired's site and decide to search for it on another site?</li>
<li>What if I'm using someone else's machine, and the best I can do to defeat a potential keylogger is grab random letters from random places?</li>
<li>What if I'm bookmarking their page and want some useful text for the description?</li>
<li>What if I'm writing a point-by-point rebuttal and don't need to cite them after every quotation?</li>
<li>What if I'm selecting a URL that isn't a hyperlink so that I can direct my browser there?</li>
<li>What if I'm copying a quotation in their copy, and would prefer to cite the original source?</li>
<li>What if I'm writing an email to a friend recommending the piece, and would like to include my favorite part as a hook?</li>
<li>What if the article isn't written in my native language and I want to use a translator program on certain words?</li>
<li>What if I want to copy a command into my terminal?  (This is <em>Wired</em>, after all.)</li>
<li>What if I'm doing statistics on journalistic writing and am feeding their prose into a calculator of the Gunning fog index?  (Should I <strong>have</strong> to include a link to Wikipedia there because it's where I retrieved the name of the index?  They don't own it.)</li>
</ul><p>

Provide an easy-to-use <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Cite&amp;page=Gunning\_fog\_index&amp;id=335562335" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">"cite us" link</a> [wikipedia.org] if you like, to encourage proper citation practice.  But it is the height of narrow-mindedness to assume that you know what other people want to do with text you provide them, and of arrogance to assume that you know how to do it better than they do.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) you are copying and pasting Wired 's content and 2 ) as early as high school I was taught that if I was copying information verbatim , I had better have some sort of reference What if I see a phrase on Wired 's site and decide to search for it on another site ?
What if I 'm using someone else 's machine , and the best I can do to defeat a potential keylogger is grab random letters from random places ?
What if I 'm bookmarking their page and want some useful text for the description ?
What if I 'm writing a point-by-point rebuttal and do n't need to cite them after every quotation ?
What if I 'm selecting a URL that is n't a hyperlink so that I can direct my browser there ?
What if I 'm copying a quotation in their copy , and would prefer to cite the original source ?
What if I 'm writing an email to a friend recommending the piece , and would like to include my favorite part as a hook ?
What if the article is n't written in my native language and I want to use a translator program on certain words ?
What if I want to copy a command into my terminal ?
( This is Wired , after all .
) What if I 'm doing statistics on journalistic writing and am feeding their prose into a calculator of the Gunning fog index ?
( Should I have to include a link to Wikipedia there because it 's where I retrieved the name of the index ?
They do n't own it .
) Provide an easy-to-use " cite us " link [ wikipedia.org ] if you like , to encourage proper citation practice .
But it is the height of narrow-mindedness to assume that you know what other people want to do with text you provide them , and of arrogance to assume that you know how to do it better than they do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) you are copying and pasting Wired's content and 2) as early as high school I was taught that if I was copying information verbatim, I had better have some sort of reference What if I see a phrase on Wired's site and decide to search for it on another site?
What if I'm using someone else's machine, and the best I can do to defeat a potential keylogger is grab random letters from random places?
What if I'm bookmarking their page and want some useful text for the description?
What if I'm writing a point-by-point rebuttal and don't need to cite them after every quotation?
What if I'm selecting a URL that isn't a hyperlink so that I can direct my browser there?
What if I'm copying a quotation in their copy, and would prefer to cite the original source?
What if I'm writing an email to a friend recommending the piece, and would like to include my favorite part as a hook?
What if the article isn't written in my native language and I want to use a translator program on certain words?
What if I want to copy a command into my terminal?
(This is Wired, after all.
)
What if I'm doing statistics on journalistic writing and am feeding their prose into a calculator of the Gunning fog index?
(Should I have to include a link to Wikipedia there because it's where I retrieved the name of the index?
They don't own it.
)


Provide an easy-to-use "cite us" link [wikipedia.org] if you like, to encourage proper citation practice.
But it is the height of narrow-mindedness to assume that you know what other people want to do with text you provide them, and of arrogance to assume that you know how to do it better than they do.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768678</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263499320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The copy/paste/autolink behavior is not the privacy concern.  I didn't read anyone here saying that it was.</p><p>The privacy concern is (from the summary): <i> sends what you copy to Tynt's webservers... </i></p><p>So I, as a user of a random webpage, copy something for later pasting.  That info, and my IP address, is sent to a third-party, theoretically for the purpose of appending a URL to the end of the text.  Is that data also used for something else?  Most likely.  What company wouldn't try to make use of data it receives?</p><p>Since the same append functionality can be done trivially with some JS without contacting a home server, we immediately hop on the privacy horn.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The copy/paste/autolink behavior is not the privacy concern .
I did n't read anyone here saying that it was.The privacy concern is ( from the summary ) : sends what you copy to Tynt 's webservers... So I , as a user of a random webpage , copy something for later pasting .
That info , and my IP address , is sent to a third-party , theoretically for the purpose of appending a URL to the end of the text .
Is that data also used for something else ?
Most likely .
What company would n't try to make use of data it receives ? Since the same append functionality can be done trivially with some JS without contacting a home server , we immediately hop on the privacy horn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The copy/paste/autolink behavior is not the privacy concern.
I didn't read anyone here saying that it was.The privacy concern is (from the summary):  sends what you copy to Tynt's webservers... So I, as a user of a random webpage, copy something for later pasting.
That info, and my IP address, is sent to a third-party, theoretically for the purpose of appending a URL to the end of the text.
Is that data also used for something else?
Most likely.
What company wouldn't try to make use of data it receives?Since the same append functionality can be done trivially with some JS without contacting a home server, we immediately hop on the privacy horn.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30772990</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>fm6</author>
	<datestamp>1263473460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a big problem with noscript. It assumes that  all scripts are evil, and makes you go through a big routine every time you want to give one permission to run.  That makes a lot of sites painful to use. Unless you're a lot more  paranoid than I am, it's just not worth it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a big problem with noscript .
It assumes that all scripts are evil , and makes you go through a big routine every time you want to give one permission to run .
That makes a lot of sites painful to use .
Unless you 're a lot more paranoid than I am , it 's just not worth it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a big problem with noscript.
It assumes that  all scripts are evil, and makes you go through a big routine every time you want to give one permission to run.
That makes a lot of sites painful to use.
Unless you're a lot more  paranoid than I am, it's just not worth it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769080</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263500700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>These two extensions should be added to a default install. Or maybe there is a way to install these extensions to all users. (Both in Linux and in Windows)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These two extensions should be added to a default install .
Or maybe there is a way to install these extensions to all users .
( Both in Linux and in Windows )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These two extensions should be added to a default install.
Or maybe there is a way to install these extensions to all users.
(Both in Linux and in Windows)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768652</id>
	<title>No big deal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263499260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sites already track which page you're looking at, so we're quibbling about which bits of content are more meaningful to you. If it bothers you that sites are tracking which fragment of a page you're copying, either disable scripts or save the source and muck with it offline. If the part that offends you is the added hyperlink, just delete that after you've pasted. It's a convenience for webmasters and for bloggers who want to quote bits of a site with automatic attribution. You do want to credit your sources, right?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sites already track which page you 're looking at , so we 're quibbling about which bits of content are more meaningful to you .
If it bothers you that sites are tracking which fragment of a page you 're copying , either disable scripts or save the source and muck with it offline .
If the part that offends you is the added hyperlink , just delete that after you 've pasted .
It 's a convenience for webmasters and for bloggers who want to quote bits of a site with automatic attribution .
You do want to credit your sources , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sites already track which page you're looking at, so we're quibbling about which bits of content are more meaningful to you.
If it bothers you that sites are tracking which fragment of a page you're copying, either disable scripts or save the source and muck with it offline.
If the part that offends you is the added hyperlink, just delete that after you've pasted.
It's a convenience for webmasters and for bloggers who want to quote bits of a site with automatic attribution.
You do want to credit your sources, right?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770066</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263461100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>First, let me say I agree this should be an opt-in thing.  Major websites, such as Wired should be very transparent about this as well.<br> <br>
That said, I'm concerned, (and while I may be off base here) that rather than reporting a vulnerability, Tynt went for profit.  Not only can other people use similar techniques (especially since they have a blueprint now) but any patches are delayed that much longer.  I suspect it won't be long until someone else exploits this for much more sinister purposes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>First , let me say I agree this should be an opt-in thing .
Major websites , such as Wired should be very transparent about this as well .
That said , I 'm concerned , ( and while I may be off base here ) that rather than reporting a vulnerability , Tynt went for profit .
Not only can other people use similar techniques ( especially since they have a blueprint now ) but any patches are delayed that much longer .
I suspect it wo n't be long until someone else exploits this for much more sinister purposes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First, let me say I agree this should be an opt-in thing.
Major websites, such as Wired should be very transparent about this as well.
That said, I'm concerned, (and while I may be off base here) that rather than reporting a vulnerability, Tynt went for profit.
Not only can other people use similar techniques (especially since they have a blueprint now) but any patches are delayed that much longer.
I suspect it won't be long until someone else exploits this for much more sinister purposes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771904</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263468360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Unfortunately the submitter and editor of this site seem to cry privacy violation at any attempt to move past the wild wild west anything goes attitude of the world wide web. That's fine as this has an element of privacy concerns what with the phoning home. But please consider the issue from Wired's side, from the side of the author and content creators. They might just trying to help us with what we were taught in school.</p></div><p>The 'wild west' is what makes the internet valuable.  Take that away and it becomes another form of cable television, censored, watered-down corporate-approved whitewash.  Perhaps people shouldn't put stuff up they don't want copied.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately the submitter and editor of this site seem to cry privacy violation at any attempt to move past the wild wild west anything goes attitude of the world wide web .
That 's fine as this has an element of privacy concerns what with the phoning home .
But please consider the issue from Wired 's side , from the side of the author and content creators .
They might just trying to help us with what we were taught in school.The 'wild west ' is what makes the internet valuable .
Take that away and it becomes another form of cable television , censored , watered-down corporate-approved whitewash .
Perhaps people should n't put stuff up they do n't want copied .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately the submitter and editor of this site seem to cry privacy violation at any attempt to move past the wild wild west anything goes attitude of the world wide web.
That's fine as this has an element of privacy concerns what with the phoning home.
But please consider the issue from Wired's side, from the side of the author and content creators.
They might just trying to help us with what we were taught in school.The 'wild west' is what makes the internet valuable.
Take that away and it becomes another form of cable television, censored, watered-down corporate-approved whitewash.
Perhaps people shouldn't put stuff up they don't want copied.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769214</id>
	<title>Re:All Your base are belong to us</title>
	<author>e2d2</author>
	<datestamp>1263501180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> I just creep angry phone call based all over myself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just creep angry phone call based all over myself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I just creep angry phone call based all over myself.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769202</id>
	<title>Re:Habits</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263501120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> au contraire: they will know in due time which parts of the site are interesting for visitors. Highlighted = interesting for readers and read. Very valuable information indeed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>au contraire : they will know in due time which parts of the site are interesting for visitors .
Highlighted = interesting for readers and read .
Very valuable information indeed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> au contraire: they will know in due time which parts of the site are interesting for visitors.
Highlighted = interesting for readers and read.
Very valuable information indeed.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768984</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263500400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You might have a little more credibility if it wasn't obvious you've registered just to post here...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You might have a little more credibility if it was n't obvious you 've registered just to post here.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You might have a little more credibility if it wasn't obvious you've registered just to post here...</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768846</id>
	<title>Privacy invasion?</title>
	<author>Registered Coward v2</author>
	<datestamp>1263500040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OK, I'll probably be in a small percentage of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.'rs here; but I don't see how this a privacy issue.  According to Tynt Insight's page, no individually identifiable info is provided.  It seems reasonable, to me, for a website to want to know what information is actually of interest to viewers; this provides a tool get that information.  I realize some people want to be absolutely untrackable and anonymous when surfing; but I happen to think site owners have a right to implement tracking tools as they see fit, and users can chose wether or not to visit a site or to use blocking tools.  Ghostery blocks doubleclick on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.; should we be offended that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. tries to make money off their site?</htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , I 'll probably be in a small percentage of / .
'rs here ; but I do n't see how this a privacy issue .
According to Tynt Insight 's page , no individually identifiable info is provided .
It seems reasonable , to me , for a website to want to know what information is actually of interest to viewers ; this provides a tool get that information .
I realize some people want to be absolutely untrackable and anonymous when surfing ; but I happen to think site owners have a right to implement tracking tools as they see fit , and users can chose wether or not to visit a site or to use blocking tools .
Ghostery blocks doubleclick on / .
; should we be offended that / .
tries to make money off their site ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, I'll probably be in a small percentage of /.
'rs here; but I don't see how this a privacy issue.
According to Tynt Insight's page, no individually identifiable info is provided.
It seems reasonable, to me, for a website to want to know what information is actually of interest to viewers; this provides a tool get that information.
I realize some people want to be absolutely untrackable and anonymous when surfing; but I happen to think site owners have a right to implement tracking tools as they see fit, and users can chose wether or not to visit a site or to use blocking tools.
Ghostery blocks doubleclick on /.
; should we be offended that /.
tries to make money off their site?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769442</id>
	<title>Re:Why do they even need the text posted back?</title>
	<author>infinityxi</author>
	<datestamp>1263501900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So Wired knows who the sue for copyright infringement multiple times. You loaded the page, offense #1, you explicitly copied it to the clipboard, offense #2 and by selecting the text you agreed to some tiny print terms that you fully intended to send this text to tynt there by making content available, offense #3. Prepare to hear from their lawyers who will want hefty damages you dirty pirate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So Wired knows who the sue for copyright infringement multiple times .
You loaded the page , offense # 1 , you explicitly copied it to the clipboard , offense # 2 and by selecting the text you agreed to some tiny print terms that you fully intended to send this text to tynt there by making content available , offense # 3 .
Prepare to hear from their lawyers who will want hefty damages you dirty pirate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Wired knows who the sue for copyright infringement multiple times.
You loaded the page, offense #1, you explicitly copied it to the clipboard, offense #2 and by selecting the text you agreed to some tiny print terms that you fully intended to send this text to tynt there by making content available, offense #3.
Prepare to hear from their lawyers who will want hefty damages you dirty pirate.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770924</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>jerryasher</author>
	<datestamp>1263464160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi,</p><p>I always attribute what I copy and paste.  Frequently I copy more than one section out of an article separating each section within the quote with ellipses.  What tynt does is add the URL to each and every copy/paste meaning I need to go back and find their little turds and delete them.  Annoying. I'll do it myself thanks, and I do.</p><p>Adding that attribution doesn't mean the user will keep it there.  So the site owner does little to nothing to help ensure his URL is attributed correctly by forcing tynt on us.  But the site owner does annoy the good guys by doing that.</p><p>You don't need a server side round trip along with full text and IP address to add a URL to a block of text.  Wired, if they were wired and not tired, could write that piece of javascript themselves, instead of opting all of their customers into tynt and privacy invasion.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi,I always attribute what I copy and paste .
Frequently I copy more than one section out of an article separating each section within the quote with ellipses .
What tynt does is add the URL to each and every copy/paste meaning I need to go back and find their little turds and delete them .
Annoying. I 'll do it myself thanks , and I do.Adding that attribution does n't mean the user will keep it there .
So the site owner does little to nothing to help ensure his URL is attributed correctly by forcing tynt on us .
But the site owner does annoy the good guys by doing that.You do n't need a server side round trip along with full text and IP address to add a URL to a block of text .
Wired , if they were wired and not tired , could write that piece of javascript themselves , instead of opting all of their customers into tynt and privacy invasion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi,I always attribute what I copy and paste.
Frequently I copy more than one section out of an article separating each section within the quote with ellipses.
What tynt does is add the URL to each and every copy/paste meaning I need to go back and find their little turds and delete them.
Annoying. I'll do it myself thanks, and I do.Adding that attribution doesn't mean the user will keep it there.
So the site owner does little to nothing to help ensure his URL is attributed correctly by forcing tynt on us.
But the site owner does annoy the good guys by doing that.You don't need a server side round trip along with full text and IP address to add a URL to a block of text.
Wired, if they were wired and not tired, could write that piece of javascript themselves, instead of opting all of their customers into tynt and privacy invasion.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768448</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769478</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1263502020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then that metadata should be appended to the part of the page that it is associated with (and then the browser can do the work of including it in the copied data), not retrieved from some third party site.</p><p>My way has the advantages of accuracy, speed and privacy (but speed probably isn't a real big factor, and like any data, it is only as accurate as the person creating it cares to make it).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then that metadata should be appended to the part of the page that it is associated with ( and then the browser can do the work of including it in the copied data ) , not retrieved from some third party site.My way has the advantages of accuracy , speed and privacy ( but speed probably is n't a real big factor , and like any data , it is only as accurate as the person creating it cares to make it ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then that metadata should be appended to the part of the page that it is associated with (and then the browser can do the work of including it in the copied data), not retrieved from some third party site.My way has the advantages of accuracy, speed and privacy (but speed probably isn't a real big factor, and like any data, it is only as accurate as the person creating it cares to make it).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768448</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768512</id>
	<title>All Your base are belong to us</title>
	<author>TibbonZero</author>
	<datestamp>1263498780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"Not cookie based, not IP based, but stop it you creeps angry phone call based. It ain't a pure useful service, and it ain't a pure privacy invasion. But I sure wish they'd go away and have had the decency to never start up in the first place."</i> <br> <br>
Please tell me that the writer is either a non-native English speaker, or they didn't read that twice?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Not cookie based , not IP based , but stop it you creeps angry phone call based .
It ai n't a pure useful service , and it ai n't a pure privacy invasion .
But I sure wish they 'd go away and have had the decency to never start up in the first place .
" Please tell me that the writer is either a non-native English speaker , or they did n't read that twice ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Not cookie based, not IP based, but stop it you creeps angry phone call based.
It ain't a pure useful service, and it ain't a pure privacy invasion.
But I sure wish they'd go away and have had the decency to never start up in the first place.
"  
Please tell me that the writer is either a non-native English speaker, or they didn't read that twice?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770820</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>pixelpusher220</author>
	<datestamp>1263463740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're not doing it wrong.  You could argue that the websites that 'broke' are doing it wrong though with quite a few caveats.
<br> <br>
The point of NoScript is to stop scripts from executing automatically the first time.   After that you can enable them individually or for the full page as you need them, as well as permanently enable them so your next visit isn't 'broken'.
<br> <br>If a site is hosting the scripts it is running I generally allow them, but if it's hosting 'displaylotsofads.js' from some ad site it doesn't get to run.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're not doing it wrong .
You could argue that the websites that 'broke ' are doing it wrong though with quite a few caveats .
The point of NoScript is to stop scripts from executing automatically the first time .
After that you can enable them individually or for the full page as you need them , as well as permanently enable them so your next visit is n't 'broken' .
If a site is hosting the scripts it is running I generally allow them , but if it 's hosting 'displaylotsofads.js ' from some ad site it does n't get to run .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're not doing it wrong.
You could argue that the websites that 'broke' are doing it wrong though with quite a few caveats.
The point of NoScript is to stop scripts from executing automatically the first time.
After that you can enable them individually or for the full page as you need them, as well as permanently enable them so your next visit isn't 'broken'.
If a site is hosting the scripts it is running I generally allow them, but if it's hosting 'displaylotsofads.js' from some ad site it doesn't get to run.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768798</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769030</id>
	<title>Oh, come on now!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263500580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everyone knows that if you save text from a web page to your machine to read it later (or have text-to-speech read it to you) that is blatant STEALING! I mean come on, you're accessing the content without being exposed to the ads on the page!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>On a serious note, thanks for giving me another reason to disallow javascript.</p><p>I've seen instances where right-clicking was not allowed on a given page. Too bad for the Nazi that implemented that, because we can just use ctrl+c.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone knows that if you save text from a web page to your machine to read it later ( or have text-to-speech read it to you ) that is blatant STEALING !
I mean come on , you 're accessing the content without being exposed to the ads on the page !
: ) On a serious note , thanks for giving me another reason to disallow javascript.I 've seen instances where right-clicking was not allowed on a given page .
Too bad for the Nazi that implemented that , because we can just use ctrl + c .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone knows that if you save text from a web page to your machine to read it later (or have text-to-speech read it to you) that is blatant STEALING!
I mean come on, you're accessing the content without being exposed to the ads on the page!
:)On a serious note, thanks for giving me another reason to disallow javascript.I've seen instances where right-clicking was not allowed on a given page.
Too bad for the Nazi that implemented that, because we can just use ctrl+c.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769532</id>
	<title>Re:Kind of One Sided Review of the Service</title>
	<author>Chryana</author>
	<datestamp>1263502200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most of the time, when I copy stuff from a website, it's for my personal use. I don't want or need my browser or any other program to guess what I intend to do with the content I copy and paste from a website. Furthermore, even if I wanted a feature like you're currently describing, I don't see any need for it to be done by an external website which I have absolutely no trust in. Finally, I use the clipboard very frequently to cut and paste passwords, so as far as I'm concerned, the clipboard has to be private. I'll keep my "wild wild west" internet like it is, thank you very much. Please keep your tagged and leashed internet away from me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of the time , when I copy stuff from a website , it 's for my personal use .
I do n't want or need my browser or any other program to guess what I intend to do with the content I copy and paste from a website .
Furthermore , even if I wanted a feature like you 're currently describing , I do n't see any need for it to be done by an external website which I have absolutely no trust in .
Finally , I use the clipboard very frequently to cut and paste passwords , so as far as I 'm concerned , the clipboard has to be private .
I 'll keep my " wild wild west " internet like it is , thank you very much .
Please keep your tagged and leashed internet away from me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of the time, when I copy stuff from a website, it's for my personal use.
I don't want or need my browser or any other program to guess what I intend to do with the content I copy and paste from a website.
Furthermore, even if I wanted a feature like you're currently describing, I don't see any need for it to be done by an external website which I have absolutely no trust in.
Finally, I use the clipboard very frequently to cut and paste passwords, so as far as I'm concerned, the clipboard has to be private.
I'll keep my "wild wild west" internet like it is, thank you very much.
Please keep your tagged and leashed internet away from me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768448</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30776994</id>
	<title>Re:Based on Selection</title>
	<author>vegiVamp</author>
	<datestamp>1263556140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ahh, so that's why I'm not seeing this behaviour on Linux - I rarely ever use the clipboard, I just use the native X select and middle-button-paste.<br><br>Yep, just tried with explicit copy/paste, and then the link appears.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ahh , so that 's why I 'm not seeing this behaviour on Linux - I rarely ever use the clipboard , I just use the native X select and middle-button-paste.Yep , just tried with explicit copy/paste , and then the link appears .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ahh, so that's why I'm not seeing this behaviour on Linux - I rarely ever use the clipboard, I just use the native X select and middle-button-paste.Yep, just tried with explicit copy/paste, and then the link appears.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768372</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30778716</id>
	<title>Re:More of the same?</title>
	<author>Nyder</author>
	<datestamp>1263569820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So let me get this straight. Because there are websites that are doing shady stuff with the text I select and such, you want me to install <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9609" title="mozilla.org" rel="nofollow">a Firefox Extension</a> [mozilla.org] that theoretically won't do anything shady with my stuff, even though <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/versions/license/86884" title="mozilla.org" rel="nofollow">its license</a> [mozilla.org] consists of</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Source code license for Ghostery 2.0.2<br>Copyright Ghostery, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.</p></div><p>And there's no source available.</p><p>Why should we trust the people behind Ghostery any more than a random website out there? If you're writing software to protect privacy and prevent data snooping, why make people trust more closed-source software?</p></div><p>How much did your<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. account cost you?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So let me get this straight .
Because there are websites that are doing shady stuff with the text I select and such , you want me to install a Firefox Extension [ mozilla.org ] that theoretically wo n't do anything shady with my stuff , even though its license [ mozilla.org ] consists ofSource code license for Ghostery 2.0.2Copyright Ghostery , Inc. All Rights Reserved.And there 's no source available.Why should we trust the people behind Ghostery any more than a random website out there ?
If you 're writing software to protect privacy and prevent data snooping , why make people trust more closed-source software ? How much did your / .
account cost you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So let me get this straight.
Because there are websites that are doing shady stuff with the text I select and such, you want me to install a Firefox Extension [mozilla.org] that theoretically won't do anything shady with my stuff, even though its license [mozilla.org] consists ofSource code license for Ghostery 2.0.2Copyright Ghostery, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.And there's no source available.Why should we trust the people behind Ghostery any more than a random website out there?
If you're writing software to protect privacy and prevent data snooping, why make people trust more closed-source software?How much did your /.
account cost you?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768292</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770106</id>
	<title>Re:Easy Adblock Plus Filter</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1263461220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just subscribe to the <a href="http://easylist.adblockplus.org/" title="adblockplus.org">EasyPrivacy filter list</a> [adblockplus.org].</p><p>It includes the filter ||tynt.com^$third-party already.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just subscribe to the EasyPrivacy filter list [ adblockplus.org ] .It includes the filter | | tynt.com ^ $ third-party already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just subscribe to the EasyPrivacy filter list [adblockplus.org].It includes the filter ||tynt.com^$third-party already.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768326</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771242</id>
	<title>Re:NoScript</title>
	<author>AsmordeanX</author>
	<datestamp>1263465360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tried using NoScript for about a month but stopped using it.  Often times I would run into a website that was just broken for some reason. Couldn't click on the links, missing elements, no navigation menus, etc.  Yes I could just back out of these sites and go elsewhere but a few of them I simply don't have a choice.  I have to use the site.</p><p>A result of this, I permit the site to run JS.  I thought, gee why couldn't a malicious site just look innocent and make it appear that you NEED JS to do anything on the page causing NoScript users to give them permission.</p><p>There are also some nice things you can do with JS.  While these are low priority compared to some of the risks with javascript it can make some sites a bit nicer to deal with. Yes, there are safer ways to do this stuff but you don't have a choice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tried using NoScript for about a month but stopped using it .
Often times I would run into a website that was just broken for some reason .
Could n't click on the links , missing elements , no navigation menus , etc .
Yes I could just back out of these sites and go elsewhere but a few of them I simply do n't have a choice .
I have to use the site.A result of this , I permit the site to run JS .
I thought , gee why could n't a malicious site just look innocent and make it appear that you NEED JS to do anything on the page causing NoScript users to give them permission.There are also some nice things you can do with JS .
While these are low priority compared to some of the risks with javascript it can make some sites a bit nicer to deal with .
Yes , there are safer ways to do this stuff but you do n't have a choice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tried using NoScript for about a month but stopped using it.
Often times I would run into a website that was just broken for some reason.
Couldn't click on the links, missing elements, no navigation menus, etc.
Yes I could just back out of these sites and go elsewhere but a few of them I simply don't have a choice.
I have to use the site.A result of this, I permit the site to run JS.
I thought, gee why couldn't a malicious site just look innocent and make it appear that you NEED JS to do anything on the page causing NoScript users to give them permission.There are also some nice things you can do with JS.
While these are low priority compared to some of the risks with javascript it can make some sites a bit nicer to deal with.
Yes, there are safer ways to do this stuff but you don't have a choice.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768188</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769646</id>
	<title>Re:All Your base are belong to us</title>
	<author>elysiana</author>
	<datestamp>1263502620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not the most beautiful of prose, but it made sense to me. What are you missing here? Maybe I can fix it a bit...</p><p> <i>"Not cookie-based, not IP-based, but 'Stop it, you creeps'-angry-phone-call-based. It ain't a pure useful service, and it ain't a pure privacy invasion. But I sure wish they'd go away and that they'd had the decency never to start up in the first place."</i> </p><p>Does that help? Am I misunderstanding what you're getting at?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not the most beautiful of prose , but it made sense to me .
What are you missing here ?
Maybe I can fix it a bit... " Not cookie-based , not IP-based , but 'Stop it , you creeps'-angry-phone-call-based .
It ai n't a pure useful service , and it ai n't a pure privacy invasion .
But I sure wish they 'd go away and that they 'd had the decency never to start up in the first place .
" Does that help ?
Am I misunderstanding what you 're getting at ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not the most beautiful of prose, but it made sense to me.
What are you missing here?
Maybe I can fix it a bit... "Not cookie-based, not IP-based, but 'Stop it, you creeps'-angry-phone-call-based.
It ain't a pure useful service, and it ain't a pure privacy invasion.
But I sure wish they'd go away and that they'd had the decency never to start up in the first place.
" Does that help?
Am I misunderstanding what you're getting at?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768512</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768188</id>
	<title>NoScript</title>
	<author>leoc</author>
	<datestamp>1263497760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Personally I have stopped browsing without NoScript enabled.  I sincerely hope that the functionality it provides is adapted as a base feature in future browsers.  Javascript is simply too dangerous to be trusted by default.  Sites need to earn that trust, IMHO.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally I have stopped browsing without NoScript enabled .
I sincerely hope that the functionality it provides is adapted as a base feature in future browsers .
Javascript is simply too dangerous to be trusted by default .
Sites need to earn that trust , IMHO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally I have stopped browsing without NoScript enabled.
I sincerely hope that the functionality it provides is adapted as a base feature in future browsers.
Javascript is simply too dangerous to be trusted by default.
Sites need to earn that trust, IMHO.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769406</id>
	<title>Re:Habits</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1263501780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It happens from time to time. I think whoever is doing it sees it as some sort of protest of the moderation system (just now I notice this article is under YRO, I haven't noticed if the mod-bombs are concentrated in this section or not).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It happens from time to time .
I think whoever is doing it sees it as some sort of protest of the moderation system ( just now I notice this article is under YRO , I have n't noticed if the mod-bombs are concentrated in this section or not ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It happens from time to time.
I think whoever is doing it sees it as some sort of protest of the moderation system (just now I notice this article is under YRO, I haven't noticed if the mod-bombs are concentrated in this section or not).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768524</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30775260</id>
	<title>Re:A comment from Tynt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263489960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So is one's hosts file and firewalls, even better, it makes everything from your company disappear, which upon hearing this, is my preference.</p><p>If companies such as yours are going to insist on going the opt-out route instead of opt-in like you should, then when I opt out, I do it in a big way and I bring all of my client's with me while I'm at it too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So is one 's hosts file and firewalls , even better , it makes everything from your company disappear , which upon hearing this , is my preference.If companies such as yours are going to insist on going the opt-out route instead of opt-in like you should , then when I opt out , I do it in a big way and I bring all of my client 's with me while I 'm at it too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So is one's hosts file and firewalls, even better, it makes everything from your company disappear, which upon hearing this, is my preference.If companies such as yours are going to insist on going the opt-out route instead of opt-in like you should, then when I opt out, I do it in a big way and I bring all of my client's with me while I'm at it too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768646</id>
	<title>Terrible Summary</title>
	<author>RealErmine</author>
	<datestamp>1263499200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Not cookie based, not IP based, but stop it you creeps angry phone call based. It ain't a pure useful service, and it ain't a pure privacy invasion.</p></div><p>This is barely English and is a grammatical cluster-fuck.  Come on editors, read past the first two lines please.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not cookie based , not IP based , but stop it you creeps angry phone call based .
It ai n't a pure useful service , and it ai n't a pure privacy invasion.This is barely English and is a grammatical cluster-fuck .
Come on editors , read past the first two lines please .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Not cookie based, not IP based, but stop it you creeps angry phone call based.
It ain't a pure useful service, and it ain't a pure privacy invasion.This is barely English and is a grammatical cluster-fuck.
Come on editors, read past the first two lines please.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769630</id>
	<title>Re:Other script blockers will work, as well</title>
	<author>xlation</author>
	<datestamp>1263502560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you control your DNS, you can also blackhole Tynt's servers</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you control your DNS , you can also blackhole Tynt 's servers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you control your DNS, you can also blackhole Tynt's servers</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768142</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30777462</id>
	<title>Re:Thought JavaScript clipboard was opt in?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263561240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They gather the selected text by using Javascript. Reverse engineer it and add lots of noise with a bot!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They gather the selected text by using Javascript .
Reverse engineer it and add lots of noise with a bot !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They gather the selected text by using Javascript.
Reverse engineer it and add lots of noise with a bot!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769028</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263500580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just FYI: A similar effect can be achieved without Javascript. No, I won't tell how, but if you really want to know, you'll figure it out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just FYI : A similar effect can be achieved without Javascript .
No , I wo n't tell how , but if you really want to know , you 'll figure it out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just FYI: A similar effect can be achieved without Javascript.
No, I won't tell how, but if you really want to know, you'll figure it out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768096</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30769086</id>
	<title>Re:How Tynt.com says to avoid being tracked...</title>
	<author>Nakarti</author>
	<datestamp>1263500700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This from their FAQ - Technical Topics (http://www1.tynt.com/faq-technical-topics):</p><p> <i>For Firefox users, we have found <b>Adblock plus</b> to work well, and Super Ad Blocker is effective for IE users.</i> </p><p> Good thing I'm using <b>Ad Block Plus</b> and NoScript while I wait, or they'd know I cut-n-pasted that...</p></div><p>Good thing you're such a flagrant moron that we shouldn't have to worry about you reproducing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This from their FAQ - Technical Topics ( http : //www1.tynt.com/faq-technical-topics ) : For Firefox users , we have found Adblock plus to work well , and Super Ad Blocker is effective for IE users .
Good thing I 'm using Ad Block Plus and NoScript while I wait , or they 'd know I cut-n-pasted that...Good thing you 're such a flagrant moron that we should n't have to worry about you reproducing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This from their FAQ - Technical Topics (http://www1.tynt.com/faq-technical-topics): For Firefox users, we have found Adblock plus to work well, and Super Ad Blocker is effective for IE users.
Good thing I'm using Ad Block Plus and NoScript while I wait, or they'd know I cut-n-pasted that...Good thing you're such a flagrant moron that we shouldn't have to worry about you reproducing.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30772134</id>
	<title>Re:Fiddler is helpful is monitoring a site...</title>
	<author>colfer</author>
	<datestamp>1263469440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Firebug can show all connections as well. Sites like NYTimes.com load an amazing amount of Javascript these days, about 40 requests.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Firebug can show all connections as well .
Sites like NYTimes.com load an amazing amount of Javascript these days , about 40 requests .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firebug can show all connections as well.
Sites like NYTimes.com load an amazing amount of Javascript these days, about 40 requests.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768528</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770020</id>
	<title>Re:use noscript!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263460920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>NoScript only works based on the source domain of the Javascript.  There is nothing preventing someone from either hosting the tynt.com code on their own site or even embedding it within their HTML page.  In other words, sending the tynt.com code from a whitelisted domain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NoScript only works based on the source domain of the Javascript .
There is nothing preventing someone from either hosting the tynt.com code on their own site or even embedding it within their HTML page .
In other words , sending the tynt.com code from a whitelisted domain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NoScript only works based on the source domain of the Javascript.
There is nothing preventing someone from either hosting the tynt.com code on their own site or even embedding it within their HTML page.
In other words, sending the tynt.com code from a whitelisted domain.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768096</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768552</id>
	<title>Re:Why collect that data?</title>
	<author>Nerdfest</author>
	<datestamp>1263498900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Many password storage utilities use the paste buffer to keep you from needing to type the password, although the good ones will blank it out after a short period of time. This has the potential for some fairly serious abuse.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Many password storage utilities use the paste buffer to keep you from needing to type the password , although the good ones will blank it out after a short period of time .
This has the potential for some fairly serious abuse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many password storage utilities use the paste buffer to keep you from needing to type the password, although the good ones will blank it out after a short period of time.
This has the potential for some fairly serious abuse.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768360</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771354</id>
	<title>Re:Based on Selection</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263465780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Guess what? With X, selecting actually copies text, without Tynt mangling it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Guess what ?
With X , selecting actually copies text , without Tynt mangling it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Guess what?
With X, selecting actually copies text, without Tynt mangling it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768372</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30770780</id>
	<title>Re:NoScript</title>
	<author>pavon</author>
	<datestamp>1263463620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I put up with exactly one bit of abuse - sometimes I have to reload a page a time or two as I selectively enable scripts to get to the content I want.</p></div><p>I tried using NoScript for a while. What really frustrated me was that I would completely fill out a form, then discover that I needed javascript enabled for the submit button to work. So I would enable javascript at which point the page would reload and clear all the form entries I just spent the last 5 minutes filling in. This happened on nearly half of the forms I would use. I got sick of that real quick and haven't used NoScript since.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I put up with exactly one bit of abuse - sometimes I have to reload a page a time or two as I selectively enable scripts to get to the content I want.I tried using NoScript for a while .
What really frustrated me was that I would completely fill out a form , then discover that I needed javascript enabled for the submit button to work .
So I would enable javascript at which point the page would reload and clear all the form entries I just spent the last 5 minutes filling in .
This happened on nearly half of the forms I would use .
I got sick of that real quick and have n't used NoScript since .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I put up with exactly one bit of abuse - sometimes I have to reload a page a time or two as I selectively enable scripts to get to the content I want.I tried using NoScript for a while.
What really frustrated me was that I would completely fill out a form, then discover that I needed javascript enabled for the submit button to work.
So I would enable javascript at which point the page would reload and clear all the form entries I just spent the last 5 minutes filling in.
This happened on nearly half of the forms I would use.
I got sick of that real quick and haven't used NoScript since.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768402</id>
	<title>JS messing with clipboard</title>
	<author>Al Dimond</author>
	<datestamp>1263498420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This isn't the first instance of Javascript messing with the clipboard. One of my former co-workers encountered a real estate search site that repeatedly overwrote his clipboard. He had the page open while he was working and discovered the issue while trying to copy-paste some database queries from one file to another or something.</p><p>My first thought was that the browser shouldn't even allow that. But since each of the individual components (looking at the selection, capturing keystrokes, writing the clipboard) can be used in JS for useful things it's hard for browser makers to do much about it. Of course, we should all be surfing with JS under tight control...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't the first instance of Javascript messing with the clipboard .
One of my former co-workers encountered a real estate search site that repeatedly overwrote his clipboard .
He had the page open while he was working and discovered the issue while trying to copy-paste some database queries from one file to another or something.My first thought was that the browser should n't even allow that .
But since each of the individual components ( looking at the selection , capturing keystrokes , writing the clipboard ) can be used in JS for useful things it 's hard for browser makers to do much about it .
Of course , we should all be surfing with JS under tight control.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't the first instance of Javascript messing with the clipboard.
One of my former co-workers encountered a real estate search site that repeatedly overwrote his clipboard.
He had the page open while he was working and discovered the issue while trying to copy-paste some database queries from one file to another or something.My first thought was that the browser shouldn't even allow that.
But since each of the individual components (looking at the selection, capturing keystrokes, writing the clipboard) can be used in JS for useful things it's hard for browser makers to do much about it.
Of course, we should all be surfing with JS under tight control...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768792</id>
	<title>Re:Habits</title>
	<author>Ethanol-fueled</author>
	<datestamp>1263499740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Somebody with a god-like sense of humor.<br> <br>

O' Megamod Troll, I beseech thee and offer thee a faded black semen-crusted Rush t-shirt!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Somebody with a god-like sense of humor .
O ' Megamod Troll , I beseech thee and offer thee a faded black semen-crusted Rush t-shirt !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somebody with a god-like sense of humor.
O' Megamod Troll, I beseech thee and offer thee a faded black semen-crusted Rush t-shirt!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768524</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768148</id>
	<title>It is to laugh.</title>
	<author>geminidomino</author>
	<datestamp>1263497700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Epic Win for Irony.</p><p>Currently on the front page of Wired.Com</p><p>"WebMonkey:</p><p>Warning: This site may be sharing your data"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Epic Win for Irony.Currently on the front page of Wired.Com " WebMonkey : Warning : This site may be sharing your data "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Epic Win for Irony.Currently on the front page of Wired.Com"WebMonkey:Warning: This site may be sharing your data"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768518</id>
	<title>Does anybody else not care?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263498780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They give me content, I give them data so they can make their website and their ads better suit my needs, personally I don't type out my secrets on random websites then copy and paste them else where, I love the cock, If this technology means that a website author can analyse their site and see that most people selected TLAs (probably to google them) and as a result next time they use a TLA they expand it the first time then i can only see that as a win, if they see that I selected "hustler for young gay men" (probably to buy it) then they can replace the text with an affiliate link to amazon and make some money, while saving me a copy/paste, then i see that as a good thing too. In fact i wish wikipedia would do this so that they linkify the words when people actually look them up not just the where the editor decided to put the link or every single time (that would make it a mess)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They give me content , I give them data so they can make their website and their ads better suit my needs , personally I do n't type out my secrets on random websites then copy and paste them else where , I love the cock , If this technology means that a website author can analyse their site and see that most people selected TLAs ( probably to google them ) and as a result next time they use a TLA they expand it the first time then i can only see that as a win , if they see that I selected " hustler for young gay men " ( probably to buy it ) then they can replace the text with an affiliate link to amazon and make some money , while saving me a copy/paste , then i see that as a good thing too .
In fact i wish wikipedia would do this so that they linkify the words when people actually look them up not just the where the editor decided to put the link or every single time ( that would make it a mess )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They give me content, I give them data so they can make their website and their ads better suit my needs, personally I don't type out my secrets on random websites then copy and paste them else where, I love the cock, If this technology means that a website author can analyse their site and see that most people selected TLAs (probably to google them) and as a result next time they use a TLA they expand it the first time then i can only see that as a win, if they see that I selected "hustler for young gay men" (probably to buy it) then they can replace the text with an affiliate link to amazon and make some money, while saving me a copy/paste, then i see that as a good thing too.
In fact i wish wikipedia would do this so that they linkify the words when people actually look them up not just the where the editor decided to put the link or every single time (that would make it a mess)</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30771520</id>
	<title>Re:Trolls?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263466440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why are you doing this, Derek?  Did you actually not stop to think that creating malware that captures activity that people consider to be private and the domain of inside-their-home is going to make a lot of people angry, and rightfully so?  What else would you justify capturing if you could?  The site that the surfer was at previously?  I think that you and your ilk are a cancer on the Internet, and the sooner you and your company fail and go away the better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are you doing this , Derek ?
Did you actually not stop to think that creating malware that captures activity that people consider to be private and the domain of inside-their-home is going to make a lot of people angry , and rightfully so ?
What else would you justify capturing if you could ?
The site that the surfer was at previously ?
I think that you and your ilk are a cancer on the Internet , and the sooner you and your company fail and go away the better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are you doing this, Derek?
Did you actually not stop to think that creating malware that captures activity that people consider to be private and the domain of inside-their-home is going to make a lot of people angry, and rightfully so?
What else would you justify capturing if you could?
The site that the surfer was at previously?
I think that you and your ilk are a cancer on the Internet, and the sooner you and your company fail and go away the better.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1818222.30768844</parent>
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