<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_14_1421210</id>
	<title>Does Your PC Really Need a SysRq Button Anymore?</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1263481200000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"Ever wondered what the SysRq key on your keyboard does? Lenovo has decided it's so rarely used that it has started <a href="http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/164694,lenovo-bucks-tradition-ditches-sysrq-button-on-some-keyboards.aspx">removing the key</a> from some new Thinkpad Edge laptops. We already know that Lenovo are something of the fastidious scientists when it comes to keyboard design. Last time they fiddled with the age-old key layout, it was after painstaking research to count exactly how many times users press the Delete and Escape keys. Now it seems another relic of computer keyboards is starting to disappear."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " Ever wondered what the SysRq key on your keyboard does ?
Lenovo has decided it 's so rarely used that it has started removing the key from some new Thinkpad Edge laptops .
We already know that Lenovo are something of the fastidious scientists when it comes to keyboard design .
Last time they fiddled with the age-old key layout , it was after painstaking research to count exactly how many times users press the Delete and Escape keys .
Now it seems another relic of computer keyboards is starting to disappear .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "Ever wondered what the SysRq key on your keyboard does?
Lenovo has decided it's so rarely used that it has started removing the key from some new Thinkpad Edge laptops.
We already know that Lenovo are something of the fastidious scientists when it comes to keyboard design.
Last time they fiddled with the age-old key layout, it was after painstaking research to count exactly how many times users press the Delete and Escape keys.
Now it seems another relic of computer keyboards is starting to disappear.
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30769766</id>
	<title>Media buttons?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263459900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, it's ok to add stupid media buttons, but they want to remove that one?<br>They should just change the name and put some fun windings thing and then teach users that they can create custom shortcuts with keys they don't use regularly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , it 's ok to add stupid media buttons , but they want to remove that one ? They should just change the name and put some fun windings thing and then teach users that they can create custom shortcuts with keys they do n't use regularly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, it's ok to add stupid media buttons, but they want to remove that one?They should just change the name and put some fun windings thing and then teach users that they can create custom shortcuts with keys they don't use regularly.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764296</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>SithLordOfLanc</author>
	<datestamp>1263485460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have physically removed the CapsLock, NumLock and Ins keys from my keyboard at both home and work. IS keeps offering to replace my "bad" keyboard. NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have physically removed the CapsLock , NumLock and Ins keys from my keyboard at both home and work .
IS keeps offering to replace my " bad " keyboard .
NO , YOU CA N'T HAVE IT !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have physically removed the CapsLock, NumLock and Ins keys from my keyboard at both home and work.
IS keeps offering to replace my "bad" keyboard.
NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764172</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765386</id>
	<title>Re:Too many keys!!!</title>
	<author>jones\_supa</author>
	<datestamp>1263488700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You would fare well as a KDE developer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You would fare well as a KDE developer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You would fare well as a KDE developer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764726</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30771506</id>
	<title>Caps lock and Insert too, please</title>
	<author>indil</author>
	<datestamp>1263466380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>While they're at it, they should also get rid of these. God, I hate them so. Never used them once, and they both force me to redo what I've already done. Just terrible. Mac keyboards don't have this cruft, I'm not sure why Lenovo catching up is newsworthy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While they 're at it , they should also get rid of these .
God , I hate them so .
Never used them once , and they both force me to redo what I 've already done .
Just terrible .
Mac keyboards do n't have this cruft , I 'm not sure why Lenovo catching up is newsworthy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While they're at it, they should also get rid of these.
God, I hate them so.
Never used them once, and they both force me to redo what I've already done.
Just terrible.
Mac keyboards don't have this cruft, I'm not sure why Lenovo catching up is newsworthy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765806</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263490200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Correct!  I only use SHIFT + INSERT for paste now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Correct !
I only use SHIFT + INSERT for paste now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Correct!
I only use SHIFT + INSERT for paste now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764908</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766384</id>
	<title>Use it every day..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263492000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Our backend MRP system is on an IBM iSeries (or AS/400 as the rest of the world still knows them), and we use SysRq to swap between different terminal screens every day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Our backend MRP system is on an IBM iSeries ( or AS/400 as the rest of the world still knows them ) , and we use SysRq to swap between different terminal screens every day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our backend MRP system is on an IBM iSeries (or AS/400 as the rest of the world still knows them), and we use SysRq to swap between different terminal screens every day.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767140</id>
	<title>Re:Laptops</title>
	<author>pyster</author>
	<datestamp>1263494580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Spoken like a douche who doesnt live outside his own experience. People in the real world, who do real work with computer, they often use those funny strange keys you dont understand, along with features you dont get. caps lock, num lock, scroll lock, ins/delete/home/end... basic data entry. document and terminal functions used in the real world. I'm gonna bet you dont actually know any AOLers who type with the caps lock on.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Spoken like a douche who doesnt live outside his own experience .
People in the real world , who do real work with computer , they often use those funny strange keys you dont understand , along with features you dont get .
caps lock , num lock , scroll lock , ins/delete/home/end... basic data entry .
document and terminal functions used in the real world .
I 'm gon na bet you dont actually know any AOLers who type with the caps lock on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Spoken like a douche who doesnt live outside his own experience.
People in the real world, who do real work with computer, they often use those funny strange keys you dont understand, along with features you dont get.
caps lock, num lock, scroll lock, ins/delete/home/end... basic data entry.
document and terminal functions used in the real world.
I'm gonna bet you dont actually know any AOLers who type with the caps lock on.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764310</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764430</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263485880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If linux freezes, then Alt-SysRq-S+U+B will do an emergency sync of the disks, unmount them and reboot the system.</p></div><p>Bah! That almost looks like an emacs keycombo. M-x-Ctrl-v-p-o-k-l-m-z-w and then press your spacebar with your nose, and it'll do the same thing by the way. It's really handy to have such a shortcut, but the odds of your cat walking over the keyboard and hitting that particular combo are pretty high.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If linux freezes , then Alt-SysRq-S + U + B will do an emergency sync of the disks , unmount them and reboot the system.Bah !
That almost looks like an emacs keycombo .
M-x-Ctrl-v-p-o-k-l-m-z-w and then press your spacebar with your nose , and it 'll do the same thing by the way .
It 's really handy to have such a shortcut , but the odds of your cat walking over the keyboard and hitting that particular combo are pretty high .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If linux freezes, then Alt-SysRq-S+U+B will do an emergency sync of the disks, unmount them and reboot the system.Bah!
That almost looks like an emacs keycombo.
M-x-Ctrl-v-p-o-k-l-m-z-w and then press your spacebar with your nose, and it'll do the same thing by the way.
It's really handy to have such a shortcut, but the odds of your cat walking over the keyboard and hitting that particular combo are pretty high.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764218</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765474</id>
	<title>Re:This is not your father's Thinkpad Lenevo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263489000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>If CAPS LOCK functionality is really needed, they could just allow holding the Shift key for a period longer than t(x).</i></p><p>Don't even think about it! I have enough work disabling all the accessibility features enabled by fucking default by the morons at MS, and don't want any such "smart" features at all!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If CAPS LOCK functionality is really needed , they could just allow holding the Shift key for a period longer than t ( x ) .Do n't even think about it !
I have enough work disabling all the accessibility features enabled by fucking default by the morons at MS , and do n't want any such " smart " features at all !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If CAPS LOCK functionality is really needed, they could just allow holding the Shift key for a period longer than t(x).Don't even think about it!
I have enough work disabling all the accessibility features enabled by fucking default by the morons at MS, and don't want any such "smart" features at all!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764546</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30770788</id>
	<title>who would right such hardware-specific code?</title>
	<author>johnrpenner</author>
	<datestamp>1263463620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>really - what good programmer would make a hard-coded dependency on the existence of an obscure key like sysRq..? if you say the choice of an obscure key is so that it doesn't conflict with other existing applications use of key assignments - then the only sane way is that the user should be able to pick &amp; reassign function-key invocations in a preferences file.</p><p>software that depends on a hard-wired sysRq key without being able to reassign it in a preferences file should be sumarily deleted and its sourcode burned in the digital bucket destined only to be run in machine-emulators (in which case - the sysRq will be reassigned anyway).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>really - what good programmer would make a hard-coded dependency on the existence of an obscure key like sysRq.. ?
if you say the choice of an obscure key is so that it does n't conflict with other existing applications use of key assignments - then the only sane way is that the user should be able to pick &amp; reassign function-key invocations in a preferences file.software that depends on a hard-wired sysRq key without being able to reassign it in a preferences file should be sumarily deleted and its sourcode burned in the digital bucket destined only to be run in machine-emulators ( in which case - the sysRq will be reassigned anyway ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>really - what good programmer would make a hard-coded dependency on the existence of an obscure key like sysRq..?
if you say the choice of an obscure key is so that it doesn't conflict with other existing applications use of key assignments - then the only sane way is that the user should be able to pick &amp; reassign function-key invocations in a preferences file.software that depends on a hard-wired sysRq key without being able to reassign it in a preferences file should be sumarily deleted and its sourcode burned in the digital bucket destined only to be run in machine-emulators (in which case - the sysRq will be reassigned anyway).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764326</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Victor\_0x53h</author>
	<datestamp>1263485580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I figured you were joking. "<i>How do I hold all that down at once?</i>" I thought. <br> <br>

Alt+SysRq then press S, U, then B one at a time. R also looks like it might be necessary? <br> <br>

<a href="http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fix-unresponsive-or-frozen-computers-with-keyboard-shortcuts/" title="makeuseof.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fix-unresponsive-or-frozen-computers-with-keyboard-shortcuts/</a> [makeuseof.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I figured you were joking .
" How do I hold all that down at once ?
" I thought .
Alt + SysRq then press S , U , then B one at a time .
R also looks like it might be necessary ?
http : //www.makeuseof.com/tag/fix-unresponsive-or-frozen-computers-with-keyboard-shortcuts/ [ makeuseof.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I figured you were joking.
"How do I hold all that down at once?
" I thought.
Alt+SysRq then press S, U, then B one at a time.
R also looks like it might be necessary?
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fix-unresponsive-or-frozen-computers-with-keyboard-shortcuts/ [makeuseof.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764218</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766028</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>Jaysyn</author>
	<datestamp>1263490860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>BZZZT, wrong!</p><p>Civil &amp; Technical designers use the CAPLOCK key in conjunction with AutoCAD / Microstation all the time.  Almost nothing I draft has any lowercase text on it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>BZZZT , wrong ! Civil &amp; Technical designers use the CAPLOCK key in conjunction with AutoCAD / Microstation all the time .
Almost nothing I draft has any lowercase text on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>BZZZT, wrong!Civil &amp; Technical designers use the CAPLOCK key in conjunction with AutoCAD / Microstation all the time.
Almost nothing I draft has any lowercase text on it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764234</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30774514</id>
	<title>Re:Lenovo keyboards</title>
	<author>tomatoguy</author>
	<datestamp>1263483300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have one of those keyboards and I've never figured out how to re-map those keys since they appear to generate 2 keycodes. How do you do it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have one of those keyboards and I 've never figured out how to re-map those keys since they appear to generate 2 keycodes .
How do you do it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have one of those keyboards and I've never figured out how to re-map those keys since they appear to generate 2 keycodes.
How do you do it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765700</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764612</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>jellomizer</author>
	<datestamp>1263486420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>hey there are still people who need to do FORTRAN code... And most likely they use the same computer to write real documents as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>hey there are still people who need to do FORTRAN code... And most likely they use the same computer to write real documents as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hey there are still people who need to do FORTRAN code... And most likely they use the same computer to write real documents as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764234</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765458</id>
	<title>I don't care much about the SysRq key but...</title>
	<author>Ralphus Maximus</author>
	<datestamp>1263489000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>For the love of $deity, but the CTRL key back where it frakkin' belongs, next to the frakkin' A key!
<br> <br>
Seriously. CTRL-key combo's are much easier to press, while touch typing, when the CTRL key is just to the left of the A key.
<br> <br>
Cheers,<br>
RM</htmltext>
<tokenext>For the love of $ deity , but the CTRL key back where it frakkin ' belongs , next to the frakkin ' A key !
Seriously. CTRL-key combo 's are much easier to press , while touch typing , when the CTRL key is just to the left of the A key .
Cheers , RM</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the love of $deity, but the CTRL key back where it frakkin' belongs, next to the frakkin' A key!
Seriously. CTRL-key combo's are much easier to press, while touch typing, when the CTRL key is just to the left of the A key.
Cheers,
RM</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30768600</id>
	<title>Re:This is not your father's Thinkpad Lenevo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263499080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>useful only to morons who don't know how to keep from SHOUTING on the internet</i></p><p>Also useful to people who code a lot of SQL in environments where the established convention is for it to all be uppercase.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>useful only to morons who do n't know how to keep from SHOUTING on the internetAlso useful to people who code a lot of SQL in environments where the established convention is for it to all be uppercase .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>useful only to morons who don't know how to keep from SHOUTING on the internetAlso useful to people who code a lot of SQL in environments where the established convention is for it to all be uppercase.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764546</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765030</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of unnecessary one and zero keys</title>
	<author>Jeremy Erwin</author>
	<datestamp>1263487680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TypewriterHermes.jpg" title="wikipedia.org">Here's a picture of a german typewriter keyboard</a> [wikipedia.org] Notice that the number keys begin at '2'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's a picture of a german typewriter keyboard [ wikipedia.org ] Notice that the number keys begin at '2' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's a picture of a german typewriter keyboard [wikipedia.org] Notice that the number keys begin at '2'.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764572</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766010</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>dandart</author>
	<datestamp>1263490800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You don't even need to hold Sysrq. I hold Alt, then type: Sysrq-r-e-i-s-u-b.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't even need to hold Sysrq .
I hold Alt , then type : Sysrq-r-e-i-s-u-b .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't even need to hold Sysrq.
I hold Alt, then type: Sysrq-r-e-i-s-u-b.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764832</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764422</id>
	<title>Esc and Delete key changes</title>
	<author>PetiePooo</author>
	<datestamp>1263485820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For those who missed the changes Lenovo has made to Esc and Del keys, <a href="http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/lenovo-gives-new-thinkpads-huge-escape-and-delete-keys-20090626/" title="geek.com" rel="nofollow">this article</a> [geek.com] has a nice picture.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For those who missed the changes Lenovo has made to Esc and Del keys , this article [ geek.com ] has a nice picture .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For those who missed the changes Lenovo has made to Esc and Del keys, this article [geek.com] has a nice picture.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764270</id>
	<title>Re:Debug key</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263485340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lenovo doesn't need to do any debugging so the key is superfluous to them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lenovo does n't need to do any debugging so the key is superfluous to them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lenovo doesn't need to do any debugging so the key is superfluous to them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764134</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764938</id>
	<title>Chiclets</title>
	<author>Dr\_Barnowl</author>
	<datestamp>1263487380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The real problem? This laptop has one of those horrible chiclet keyboards.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Lenovo argues the new design gives the laptop a more "clean and inviting look"</p></div><p>I don't want to use any keyboard where the look of the thing was given anything more than secondary consideration. I've used chiclet-keys on Powerbooks, and I hate them. And the stupid key layout. I understand that compromises have to be made on a laptop keyboard because of space, but the Powerbook keyboard seems to have been solely designed to "think different" from the standard layout. Thou Shalt Not Move The Slash Keys. Whenever I know I have to support one now, I take my USB keyboard with me, a nice Cherry G80-3000 with a boring, normal, sensible layout, and clicky key switches.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The real problem ?
This laptop has one of those horrible chiclet keyboards.Lenovo argues the new design gives the laptop a more " clean and inviting look " I do n't want to use any keyboard where the look of the thing was given anything more than secondary consideration .
I 've used chiclet-keys on Powerbooks , and I hate them .
And the stupid key layout .
I understand that compromises have to be made on a laptop keyboard because of space , but the Powerbook keyboard seems to have been solely designed to " think different " from the standard layout .
Thou Shalt Not Move The Slash Keys .
Whenever I know I have to support one now , I take my USB keyboard with me , a nice Cherry G80-3000 with a boring , normal , sensible layout , and clicky key switches .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real problem?
This laptop has one of those horrible chiclet keyboards.Lenovo argues the new design gives the laptop a more "clean and inviting look"I don't want to use any keyboard where the look of the thing was given anything more than secondary consideration.
I've used chiclet-keys on Powerbooks, and I hate them.
And the stupid key layout.
I understand that compromises have to be made on a laptop keyboard because of space, but the Powerbook keyboard seems to have been solely designed to "think different" from the standard layout.
Thou Shalt Not Move The Slash Keys.
Whenever I know I have to support one now, I take my USB keyboard with me, a nice Cherry G80-3000 with a boring, normal, sensible layout, and clicky key switches.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764808</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263487020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well thing is the normal windows print screen does not capture EVERYTHING on the screen. Your screen has two layers, the mouse a and a number of other things live one the other layer, which don't get captured by print screen.</p><p>I used to work for a company that made documentation on things that primarily were on this extra screen layer. No biggie irfanView has a utility to catch this but still.</p><p>Anyway you'd be surprised how much time gets wasted when you need to use paint to draw the pointer one every picture.</p><p>Also not everything in the world is in a dialog, it might be a menu that you need and dont want extra clutter like the whole screen.</p><p>SnagIT does make life easier. But who the hell uses word for documentation?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well thing is the normal windows print screen does not capture EVERYTHING on the screen .
Your screen has two layers , the mouse a and a number of other things live one the other layer , which do n't get captured by print screen.I used to work for a company that made documentation on things that primarily were on this extra screen layer .
No biggie irfanView has a utility to catch this but still.Anyway you 'd be surprised how much time gets wasted when you need to use paint to draw the pointer one every picture.Also not everything in the world is in a dialog , it might be a menu that you need and dont want extra clutter like the whole screen.SnagIT does make life easier .
But who the hell uses word for documentation ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well thing is the normal windows print screen does not capture EVERYTHING on the screen.
Your screen has two layers, the mouse a and a number of other things live one the other layer, which don't get captured by print screen.I used to work for a company that made documentation on things that primarily were on this extra screen layer.
No biggie irfanView has a utility to catch this but still.Anyway you'd be surprised how much time gets wasted when you need to use paint to draw the pointer one every picture.Also not everything in the world is in a dialog, it might be a menu that you need and dont want extra clutter like the whole screen.SnagIT does make life easier.
But who the hell uses word for documentation?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765116</id>
	<title>Not very Linux friendly...</title>
	<author>Omeganon</author>
	<datestamp>1263487920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>SysRQ can be extremely useful in figuring out why a machine has locked up or become unresponsive...</p><p><a href="http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt" title="kernel.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt</a> [kernel.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>SysRQ can be extremely useful in figuring out why a machine has locked up or become unresponsive...http : //www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt [ kernel.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SysRQ can be extremely useful in figuring out why a machine has locked up or become unresponsive...http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt [kernel.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766982</id>
	<title>Print Screen is still needed, though</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263494040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most OSs (Linux/Windows) use this for screenshots. Myself, and most of my co-workers are certainly aware of this fact, and make use of it occasionally.<br>Also, I have heard that terrorists favour the 'Scroll Lock' button for self detonating, so it would make more sense to remove that key instead... but please leave the LED, since we can write nice programs to control it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most OSs ( Linux/Windows ) use this for screenshots .
Myself , and most of my co-workers are certainly aware of this fact , and make use of it occasionally.Also , I have heard that terrorists favour the 'Scroll Lock ' button for self detonating , so it would make more sense to remove that key instead... but please leave the LED , since we can write nice programs to control it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most OSs (Linux/Windows) use this for screenshots.
Myself, and most of my co-workers are certainly aware of this fact, and make use of it occasionally.Also, I have heard that terrorists favour the 'Scroll Lock' button for self detonating, so it would make more sense to remove that key instead... but please leave the LED, since we can write nice programs to control it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765582</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>JWSmythe</author>
	<datestamp>1263489420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; How do you hit [shift]-[ins] to paste?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>    How do you hit [ shift ] - [ ins ] to paste ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
    How do you hit [shift]-[ins] to paste?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767142</id>
	<title>Re:But you don't only lose a key</title>
	<author>kalirion</author>
	<datestamp>1263494580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Volume keys on the keyboard are actually very useful.  Play, Stop, RWD, FFWD are less so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Volume keys on the keyboard are actually very useful .
Play , Stop , RWD , FFWD are less so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Volume keys on the keyboard are actually very useful.
Play, Stop, RWD, FFWD are less so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764876</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>gnapster</author>
	<datestamp>1263487200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most new Linux users need to be tutored in this by someone who owns a Mac.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most new Linux users need to be tutored in this by someone who owns a Mac .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most new Linux users need to be tutored in this by someone who owns a Mac.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764354</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766824</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>pyster</author>
	<datestamp>1263493440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I cant recall the last time I saw an AOLer use caps locks.<br> <br>People who use computers to do actual work often use the caps lock key. There are afew databases i access where it comes in handy. I just wish it was in anothe rlocation and something more commonly needed put in its place.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I cant recall the last time I saw an AOLer use caps locks .
People who use computers to do actual work often use the caps lock key .
There are afew databases i access where it comes in handy .
I just wish it was in anothe rlocation and something more commonly needed put in its place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I cant recall the last time I saw an AOLer use caps locks.
People who use computers to do actual work often use the caps lock key.
There are afew databases i access where it comes in handy.
I just wish it was in anothe rlocation and something more commonly needed put in its place.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764234</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764572</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of unnecessary one and zero keys</title>
	<author>Restil</author>
	<datestamp>1263486240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know you're being sarcastic, but I vaguely recall having to use a lowercase L as a 1 key during typing class for some reason.  I'm sure the typewriter had a 1 key, but I distinctly remember that the 1 and lower case L on that keyboard had the same footprint...  dangit.. now I'm going to spend the next several days trying to figure out the significance of this.</p><p>-Restil</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know you 're being sarcastic , but I vaguely recall having to use a lowercase L as a 1 key during typing class for some reason .
I 'm sure the typewriter had a 1 key , but I distinctly remember that the 1 and lower case L on that keyboard had the same footprint... dangit.. now I 'm going to spend the next several days trying to figure out the significance of this.-Restil</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know you're being sarcastic, but I vaguely recall having to use a lowercase L as a 1 key during typing class for some reason.
I'm sure the typewriter had a 1 key, but I distinctly remember that the 1 and lower case L on that keyboard had the same footprint...  dangit.. now I'm going to spend the next several days trying to figure out the significance of this.-Restil</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764180</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764464</id>
	<title>It's there to tell the OS</title>
	<author>hey!</author>
	<datestamp>1263486000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that the user is pressing the SysRq key.</p><p>In fact, to *urgently* tell the OS that the SysRq. It's not supposed to be buffered or anything, it supposed to grab the OS by the collar and scream "THE USER JUST PRESSED THE DAMMNED SYSRQ KEY!!!!" at it.</p><p>But what is that supposed to mean?</p><p>It doesn't mean anything.</p><p>That's the whole point.</p><p>When they were designing the keyboard, they thought of all the things that you might want a keyboard to say ("STOP SCROLLING",  "Show me that last page", "Get me the hell out of this input mode"). And after they'd mandated keys for everything anybody could think of, they had a stroke of genius. They mandated a key that did nothing anybody wanted to do.</p><p>Why is that a stroke of genius?</p><p>It is something rare in engineering, which thrives on bravado and feverishly inflated self-confidence. It is an admission of the limitation of human foresight, an acknowledgement that there are more things under Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in our philosophies; a semiotic *memento mori*.</p><p>This key is mandated  to mean nothing, therefore it can mean anything, or indeed, everything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that the user is pressing the SysRq key.In fact , to * urgently * tell the OS that the SysRq .
It 's not supposed to be buffered or anything , it supposed to grab the OS by the collar and scream " THE USER JUST PRESSED THE DAMMNED SYSRQ KEY ! ! ! !
" at it.But what is that supposed to mean ? It does n't mean anything.That 's the whole point.When they were designing the keyboard , they thought of all the things that you might want a keyboard to say ( " STOP SCROLLING " , " Show me that last page " , " Get me the hell out of this input mode " ) .
And after they 'd mandated keys for everything anybody could think of , they had a stroke of genius .
They mandated a key that did nothing anybody wanted to do.Why is that a stroke of genius ? It is something rare in engineering , which thrives on bravado and feverishly inflated self-confidence .
It is an admission of the limitation of human foresight , an acknowledgement that there are more things under Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in our philosophies ; a semiotic * memento mori * .This key is mandated to mean nothing , therefore it can mean anything , or indeed , everything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that the user is pressing the SysRq key.In fact, to *urgently* tell the OS that the SysRq.
It's not supposed to be buffered or anything, it supposed to grab the OS by the collar and scream "THE USER JUST PRESSED THE DAMMNED SYSRQ KEY!!!!
" at it.But what is that supposed to mean?It doesn't mean anything.That's the whole point.When they were designing the keyboard, they thought of all the things that you might want a keyboard to say ("STOP SCROLLING",  "Show me that last page", "Get me the hell out of this input mode").
And after they'd mandated keys for everything anybody could think of, they had a stroke of genius.
They mandated a key that did nothing anybody wanted to do.Why is that a stroke of genius?It is something rare in engineering, which thrives on bravado and feverishly inflated self-confidence.
It is an admission of the limitation of human foresight, an acknowledgement that there are more things under Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in our philosophies; a semiotic *memento mori*.This key is mandated  to mean nothing, therefore it can mean anything, or indeed, everything.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30775176</id>
	<title>Re:Debug key</title>
	<author>corychristison</author>
	<datestamp>1263489120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its great!</p><p>I take time to disable everything I don't need in the kernel so it compiles the kernel and modules in about 30 minutes (on an AMD X2 5200+, 4GB DDR2 RAM, Nvidia nForce Chipset)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its great ! I take time to disable everything I do n't need in the kernel so it compiles the kernel and modules in about 30 minutes ( on an AMD X2 5200 + , 4GB DDR2 RAM , Nvidia nForce Chipset )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its great!I take time to disable everything I don't need in the kernel so it compiles the kernel and modules in about 30 minutes (on an AMD X2 5200+, 4GB DDR2 RAM, Nvidia nForce Chipset)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767102</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of unnecessary one and zero keys</title>
	<author>dominious</author>
	<datestamp>1263494460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://dougbarton.us/images/supercoder.jpg" title="dougbarton.us">http://dougbarton.us/images/supercoder.jpg</a> [dougbarton.us] <br>
and<br>
<a href="http://www.goldb.org/goldblog/cmg\_images/real\_programmers\_binary.jpg" title="goldb.org">http://www.goldb.org/goldblog/cmg\_images/real\_programmers\_binary.jpg</a> [goldb.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //dougbarton.us/images/supercoder.jpg [ dougbarton.us ] and http : //www.goldb.org/goldblog/cmg \ _images/real \ _programmers \ _binary.jpg [ goldb.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://dougbarton.us/images/supercoder.jpg [dougbarton.us] 
and
http://www.goldb.org/goldblog/cmg\_images/real\_programmers\_binary.jpg [goldb.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764746</id>
	<title>Re:From having read TFA...</title>
	<author>BattleApple</author>
	<datestamp>1263486780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are you thinking of the Pause key?  Scroll Lock is supposed to toggle the arrow keys between scrolling the screen and moving the cursor... and also to drive me insane when I accidentally hit it then try to write an email in Lotus Notes *cringe*</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you thinking of the Pause key ?
Scroll Lock is supposed to toggle the arrow keys between scrolling the screen and moving the cursor... and also to drive me insane when I accidentally hit it then try to write an email in Lotus Notes * cringe *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you thinking of the Pause key?
Scroll Lock is supposed to toggle the arrow keys between scrolling the screen and moving the cursor... and also to drive me insane when I accidentally hit it then try to write an email in Lotus Notes *cringe*</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764794</id>
	<title>ctrl alt backspace</title>
	<author>jackflap</author>
	<datestamp>1263486960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>cool, can we now have ctrl+alt+backspace to restart the xserver back in x.org please?
<br> <br>
one of the main arguments was that we could use the never-working sysrq+blahblha combination to do the same thing..</htmltext>
<tokenext>cool , can we now have ctrl + alt + backspace to restart the xserver back in x.org please ?
one of the main arguments was that we could use the never-working sysrq + blahblha combination to do the same thing. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>cool, can we now have ctrl+alt+backspace to restart the xserver back in x.org please?
one of the main arguments was that we could use the never-working sysrq+blahblha combination to do the same thing..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766736</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1263493200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The only people I know who use the Caps Lock Key are AOLers."</p><p>THERE ARE MORE OF US THAN LUNIX USERS. CAPS LOCK 4 TEH WIN!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The only people I know who use the Caps Lock Key are AOLers .
" THERE ARE MORE OF US THAN LUNIX USERS .
CAPS LOCK 4 TEH WIN !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The only people I know who use the Caps Lock Key are AOLers.
"THERE ARE MORE OF US THAN LUNIX USERS.
CAPS LOCK 4 TEH WIN!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30768044</id>
	<title>Fascinating!</title>
	<author>freaker\_TuC</author>
	<datestamp>1263497400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>remove the CAPS LOCK key</p></div><p>You seem not to have programmed in AOL language before<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Fascinating!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>remove the CAPS LOCK keyYou seem not to have programmed in AOL language before ...Fascinating !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>remove the CAPS LOCK keyYou seem not to have programmed in AOL language before ...Fascinating!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765858</id>
	<title>New Product</title>
	<author>Tea-Bone of Brooklyn</author>
	<datestamp>1263490380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm seeing a market for a USB SysRq key - just a single key with a rotatable USB connector on it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm seeing a market for a USB SysRq key - just a single key with a rotatable USB connector on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm seeing a market for a USB SysRq key - just a single key with a rotatable USB connector on it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764752</id>
	<title>I'd love an "@" key.</title>
	<author>Torontoman</author>
	<datestamp>1263486780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This occurred to me last night when I was eating and typing one handed on my laptop whilst driving down the highway. (OK Not really)</p><p>An "@" key would be nice. we use it dozens of times per day and more than most of the letters on the keyboard and certainly more than all the punctuation.  It's a needed key - why not put it on and get rid of the need to hold shift down to do so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This occurred to me last night when I was eating and typing one handed on my laptop whilst driving down the highway .
( OK Not really ) An " @ " key would be nice .
we use it dozens of times per day and more than most of the letters on the keyboard and certainly more than all the punctuation .
It 's a needed key - why not put it on and get rid of the need to hold shift down to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This occurred to me last night when I was eating and typing one handed on my laptop whilst driving down the highway.
(OK Not really)An "@" key would be nice.
we use it dozens of times per day and more than most of the letters on the keyboard and certainly more than all the punctuation.
It's a needed key - why not put it on and get rid of the need to hold shift down to do so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764726</id>
	<title>Too many keys!!!</title>
	<author>Primitive Pete</author>
	<datestamp>1263486720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Frankly, there are a lot of keys we could get rid of, because they just take up real estate and don't help with the way I use the keyboard. I rarely have rekwirements to use the Q key, and I'm kwite sure that others could get by without it, too. These key-friendly users just need to akwire new work habits. What's hard about that?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Frankly , there are a lot of keys we could get rid of , because they just take up real estate and do n't help with the way I use the keyboard .
I rarely have rekwirements to use the Q key , and I 'm kwite sure that others could get by without it , too .
These key-friendly users just need to akwire new work habits .
What 's hard about that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Frankly, there are a lot of keys we could get rid of, because they just take up real estate and don't help with the way I use the keyboard.
I rarely have rekwirements to use the Q key, and I'm kwite sure that others could get by without it, too.
These key-friendly users just need to akwire new work habits.
What's hard about that?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766092</id>
	<title>Re:But you don't only lose a key</title>
	<author>El\_Isma</author>
	<datestamp>1263491040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My Asus Travelmate has an  key and a $ key. I'm still wondering what to do with them. I really don't know what went through their minds when they decided "HEY! Let's put a $ key!", like shift-4 wasn't enough.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My Asus Travelmate has an key and a $ key .
I 'm still wondering what to do with them .
I really do n't know what went through their minds when they decided " HEY !
Let 's put a $ key !
" , like shift-4 was n't enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Asus Travelmate has an  key and a $ key.
I'm still wondering what to do with them.
I really don't know what went through their minds when they decided "HEY!
Let's put a $ key!
", like shift-4 wasn't enough.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764480</id>
	<title>You insensitive clod!</title>
	<author>Lew Perin</author>
	<datestamp>1263486000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's been easily half a dozen years since, afflicted with an Emacs-induced sore left wrist, I switched to a Kinesis keyboard that uses thumbs, not pinkies, for chording.  It has no SysRq key.  I'd forgotten all about that long-lost, alluring key, and now you go and remind me!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's been easily half a dozen years since , afflicted with an Emacs-induced sore left wrist , I switched to a Kinesis keyboard that uses thumbs , not pinkies , for chording .
It has no SysRq key .
I 'd forgotten all about that long-lost , alluring key , and now you go and remind me !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's been easily half a dozen years since, afflicted with an Emacs-induced sore left wrist, I switched to a Kinesis keyboard that uses thumbs, not pinkies, for chording.
It has no SysRq key.
I'd forgotten all about that long-lost, alluring key, and now you go and remind me!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766704</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263493080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>when you go to hit CTRL-, I hit Fn instead</p></div></blockquote><p>I can see the inconvenience - I had no idea our keyboards were entangled this way.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>when you go to hit CTRL- , I hit Fn insteadI can see the inconvenience - I had no idea our keyboards were entangled this way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when you go to hit CTRL-, I hit Fn insteadI can see the inconvenience - I had no idea our keyboards were entangled this way.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764826</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767192</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>Sloppy</author>
	<datestamp>1263494820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am so with you on that.  Every single fucking time I have hit caps lock, it was a mistake.  That key's sole purpose is to be a nuisance.  I already have to order "special" keyboards that put ctrl next to A where it belongs, but alas those keyboards still have a caps lock key, down in the lower left.  It's a little further out of the way, but the damn thing still <em>exists</em>, much to my annoyance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am so with you on that .
Every single fucking time I have hit caps lock , it was a mistake .
That key 's sole purpose is to be a nuisance .
I already have to order " special " keyboards that put ctrl next to A where it belongs , but alas those keyboards still have a caps lock key , down in the lower left .
It 's a little further out of the way , but the damn thing still exists , much to my annoyance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am so with you on that.
Every single fucking time I have hit caps lock, it was a mistake.
That key's sole purpose is to be a nuisance.
I already have to order "special" keyboards that put ctrl next to A where it belongs, but alas those keyboards still have a caps lock key, down in the lower left.
It's a little further out of the way, but the damn thing still exists, much to my annoyance.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764172</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766752</id>
	<title>Screw Thinkpads then</title>
	<author>molafish</author>
	<datestamp>1263493200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Consequently I will not be purchasing a Thinkpad Edge. I've had to reboot a redhat machine repeatedly with the magic sysreq keys lately. Just throwing this useful key away is a mistake. I don't understand what it benefits them anyway, since it's just some extra silkscreen on an existing button that does see use and another scan code in their hardware.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Consequently I will not be purchasing a Thinkpad Edge .
I 've had to reboot a redhat machine repeatedly with the magic sysreq keys lately .
Just throwing this useful key away is a mistake .
I do n't understand what it benefits them anyway , since it 's just some extra silkscreen on an existing button that does see use and another scan code in their hardware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Consequently I will not be purchasing a Thinkpad Edge.
I've had to reboot a redhat machine repeatedly with the magic sysreq keys lately.
Just throwing this useful key away is a mistake.
I don't understand what it benefits them anyway, since it's just some extra silkscreen on an existing button that does see use and another scan code in their hardware.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764524</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263486120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!</p><p>filter error: don't use so many caps. it's like yelling.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL ! filter error : do n't use so many caps .
it 's like yelling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!filter error: don't use so many caps.
it's like yelling.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764172</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764718</id>
	<title>Mandatory bash.org quote</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1263486660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://bash.org/?835030" title="bash.org">http://bash.org/?835030</a> [bash.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //bash.org/ ? 835030 [ bash.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://bash.org/?835030 [bash.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764172</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30776040</id>
	<title>Sysreq key</title>
	<author>ps2os2</author>
	<datestamp>1263586500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh yes its definitely needed there are millions of PC's attached to a mainframe that need this key.</p><p>Lenova has taken it upon themselves to delete other keys that a lot of people use. That is one of the big reasons why I would never buy a lenovo computer (that plus it is made in China and you just do not now what spyware/bugs/malware in your computer. That's worse than trusting MS to be honest.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh yes its definitely needed there are millions of PC 's attached to a mainframe that need this key.Lenova has taken it upon themselves to delete other keys that a lot of people use .
That is one of the big reasons why I would never buy a lenovo computer ( that plus it is made in China and you just do not now what spyware/bugs/malware in your computer .
That 's worse than trusting MS to be honest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh yes its definitely needed there are millions of PC's attached to a mainframe that need this key.Lenova has taken it upon themselves to delete other keys that a lot of people use.
That is one of the big reasons why I would never buy a lenovo computer (that plus it is made in China and you just do not now what spyware/bugs/malware in your computer.
That's worse than trusting MS to be honest.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765396</id>
	<title>Re:This is not your father's Thinkpad Lenevo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263488700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They would do better to remove the CAPS LOCK key,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..................<br>As a Linux developer this move screams to me: <i>"HEY!  WE'RE LENEVO, AND NOW THAT WE HAVE BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO THE THINKPAD NAME FROM IBM, WE ARE SHOUTING HOW CLUELESS WE ARE BECOMING FROM THE VIRTUAL ROOFTOPS".</i></p></div><p>Hey moron, the caps lock key is perfect for strings of all caps like these. EVEN IF YOU'RE JUST KIDDING.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They would do better to remove the CAPS LOCK key , ..................As a Linux developer this move screams to me : " HEY !
WE 'RE LENEVO , AND NOW THAT WE HAVE BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO THE THINKPAD NAME FROM IBM , WE ARE SHOUTING HOW CLUELESS WE ARE BECOMING FROM THE VIRTUAL ROOFTOPS " .Hey moron , the caps lock key is perfect for strings of all caps like these .
EVEN IF YOU 'RE JUST KIDDING .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They would do better to remove the CAPS LOCK key, ..................As a Linux developer this move screams to me: "HEY!
WE'RE LENEVO, AND NOW THAT WE HAVE BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO THE THINKPAD NAME FROM IBM, WE ARE SHOUTING HOW CLUELESS WE ARE BECOMING FROM THE VIRTUAL ROOFTOPS".Hey moron, the caps lock key is perfect for strings of all caps like these.
EVEN IF YOU'RE JUST KIDDING.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764546</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765166</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>VJ42</author>
	<datestamp>1263488040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Download him <a href="http://lightscreen.sourceforge.net/" title="sourceforge.net">lightscreen</a> [sourceforge.net], which is actually designed for specialised screen capture (e.g you can grab individual windows or screen areas as opposed to the whole screen). I haven't used it for a while, but IIRC you can also tell it to take a screen-cap every x seconds.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Download him lightscreen [ sourceforge.net ] , which is actually designed for specialised screen capture ( e.g you can grab individual windows or screen areas as opposed to the whole screen ) .
I have n't used it for a while , but IIRC you can also tell it to take a screen-cap every x seconds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Download him lightscreen [sourceforge.net], which is actually designed for specialised screen capture (e.g you can grab individual windows or screen areas as opposed to the whole screen).
I haven't used it for a while, but IIRC you can also tell it to take a screen-cap every x seconds.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764476</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764906</id>
	<title>Re:Laptops</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1263487260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My guess is that they'll provide a keyboard with another key missing, similar to what you get when you get keyboards for different languages. Did you know that, e.g. a German keyboard has the { on Alt+7? } is on Alt+0. 8 and 9 are [ and ] in case you're wondering. And you don't even want to know what combination is necessary for ~, \, | and ^.</p><p>And people are still asking why I insist in English layout when I'm programming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My guess is that they 'll provide a keyboard with another key missing , similar to what you get when you get keyboards for different languages .
Did you know that , e.g .
a German keyboard has the { on Alt + 7 ?
} is on Alt + 0 .
8 and 9 are [ and ] in case you 're wondering .
And you do n't even want to know what combination is necessary for ~ , \ , | and ^ .And people are still asking why I insist in English layout when I 'm programming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My guess is that they'll provide a keyboard with another key missing, similar to what you get when you get keyboards for different languages.
Did you know that, e.g.
a German keyboard has the { on Alt+7?
} is on Alt+0.
8 and 9 are [ and ] in case you're wondering.
And you don't even want to know what combination is necessary for ~, \, | and ^.And people are still asking why I insist in English layout when I'm programming.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764310</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30787630</id>
	<title>Re:They're remapping something else</title>
	<author>indi0144</author>
	<datestamp>1263575880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're doing it wrong<br><br>http://lightscreen.sourceforge.net/<br><br>rejoice</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're doing it wronghttp : //lightscreen.sourceforge.net/rejoice</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're doing it wronghttp://lightscreen.sourceforge.net/rejoice</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765986</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764558</id>
	<title>Save the SysReq key!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263486180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Put a Microsoft trademark on it and it will never go away!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Put a Microsoft trademark on it and it will never go away !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Put a Microsoft trademark on it and it will never go away!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30793882</id>
	<title>Re:Why Do I Need Two Delete Keys</title>
	<author>RichiH</author>
	<datestamp>1263641940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The second one acts as a right mouse button.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The second one acts as a right mouse button .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The second one acts as a right mouse button.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764424</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767136</id>
	<title>Keyboard Mappings</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263494580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't SysRq the default third-level shift? Or is it the compose key? I'm certain I've used it for entering various international and mathematical characters.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't SysRq the default third-level shift ?
Or is it the compose key ?
I 'm certain I 've used it for entering various international and mathematical characters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't SysRq the default third-level shift?
Or is it the compose key?
I'm certain I've used it for entering various international and mathematical characters.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766282</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>fast turtle</author>
	<datestamp>1263491700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've now learned my daily quota of something new - Thank you for that clear/concise explanation - Now it's off to veggie status.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've now learned my daily quota of something new - Thank you for that clear/concise explanation - Now it 's off to veggie status .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've now learned my daily quota of something new - Thank you for that clear/concise explanation - Now it's off to veggie status.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764832</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30858676</id>
	<title>Re:Debug key</title>
	<author>Dunkirk</author>
	<datestamp>1264171260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a 4-year veteran of running many Gentoo machines, who is still in the tenative stages of switching to Ubuntu (and who could never quite get the hang of compiling custom kernels successfully), I found this very funny. Thanks for more ammo to make the switch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a 4-year veteran of running many Gentoo machines , who is still in the tenative stages of switching to Ubuntu ( and who could never quite get the hang of compiling custom kernels successfully ) , I found this very funny .
Thanks for more ammo to make the switch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a 4-year veteran of running many Gentoo machines, who is still in the tenative stages of switching to Ubuntu (and who could never quite get the hang of compiling custom kernels successfully), I found this very funny.
Thanks for more ammo to make the switch.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767324</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of unnecessary one and zero keys</title>
	<author>david\_thornley</author>
	<datestamp>1263495240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
And '!' was typed as period-backspace-apostrophe (or the reverse).  I wonder if I have that thing any more.  It was good at making regular marks on paper during a power failure, but it had this extremely bad habit of inserting the character I typed rather than the one I wanted.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And ' !
' was typed as period-backspace-apostrophe ( or the reverse ) .
I wonder if I have that thing any more .
It was good at making regular marks on paper during a power failure , but it had this extremely bad habit of inserting the character I typed rather than the one I wanted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
And '!
' was typed as period-backspace-apostrophe (or the reverse).
I wonder if I have that thing any more.
It was good at making regular marks on paper during a power failure, but it had this extremely bad habit of inserting the character I typed rather than the one I wanted.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764180</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764810</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>xtracto</author>
	<datestamp>1263487020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TROLL.</p><p>We all know that<br>1. Linux does not freeze.<br>2. It is not necessary to reboot a Linux system for anything.</p><p>Get him boys!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TROLL.We all know that1 .
Linux does not freeze.2 .
It is not necessary to reboot a Linux system for anything.Get him boys !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TROLL.We all know that1.
Linux does not freeze.2.
It is not necessary to reboot a Linux system for anything.Get him boys!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764218</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764952</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>JediTrainer</author>
	<datestamp>1263487440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't even bother with that anymore. If you have it, OneNote puts a better screengrabber into Windowkey+S which lets you select the part of the screen that you want to capture (no more cropping!)<br> <br>
I managed to get that part of OneNote working on Ubuntu as well, although through the tray icon instead of the hotkey. Unfortunately most everything else that I need in OneNote remains broken under the version of CrossOver I have.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't even bother with that anymore .
If you have it , OneNote puts a better screengrabber into Windowkey + S which lets you select the part of the screen that you want to capture ( no more cropping !
) I managed to get that part of OneNote working on Ubuntu as well , although through the tray icon instead of the hotkey .
Unfortunately most everything else that I need in OneNote remains broken under the version of CrossOver I have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't even bother with that anymore.
If you have it, OneNote puts a better screengrabber into Windowkey+S which lets you select the part of the screen that you want to capture (no more cropping!
) 
I managed to get that part of OneNote working on Ubuntu as well, although through the tray icon instead of the hotkey.
Unfortunately most everything else that I need in OneNote remains broken under the version of CrossOver I have.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764476</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766336</id>
	<title>Re:Goodbye to the ThinkPad brand.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263491820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The thinkpad I got for work has a separate 10-key pad like a full sized keyboard, but the home/delete/page keys are stuffed in an unusable spot at the top, making them useless.  To make matters all the more exciting, the number pad keys arbitrarily stop repeating after a half-second or so.  This according to tech support is a 'feature'.  Also the 'value-add' touch pad driver was almost completely unusable, and I had to replace it with one directly from synaptics.  Lets not even talk about the unreal amount of bloat-ware I had to remove to get a seemingly high end (and not cheap) machine to perform at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The thinkpad I got for work has a separate 10-key pad like a full sized keyboard , but the home/delete/page keys are stuffed in an unusable spot at the top , making them useless .
To make matters all the more exciting , the number pad keys arbitrarily stop repeating after a half-second or so .
This according to tech support is a 'feature' .
Also the 'value-add ' touch pad driver was almost completely unusable , and I had to replace it with one directly from synaptics .
Lets not even talk about the unreal amount of bloat-ware I had to remove to get a seemingly high end ( and not cheap ) machine to perform at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The thinkpad I got for work has a separate 10-key pad like a full sized keyboard, but the home/delete/page keys are stuffed in an unusable spot at the top, making them useless.
To make matters all the more exciting, the number pad keys arbitrarily stop repeating after a half-second or so.
This according to tech support is a 'feature'.
Also the 'value-add' touch pad driver was almost completely unusable, and I had to replace it with one directly from synaptics.
Lets not even talk about the unreal amount of bloat-ware I had to remove to get a seemingly high end (and not cheap) machine to perform at all.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764398</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766268</id>
	<title>It's 2010...</title>
	<author>bugs2squash</author>
	<datestamp>1263491640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>time we moved on from keyboards, or at least made them specialist add-ons that only a few would want. Alternative input devices are still dismal, about as good as a rotary telephone dial with 37 finger holes. Where's the innovation ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>time we moved on from keyboards , or at least made them specialist add-ons that only a few would want .
Alternative input devices are still dismal , about as good as a rotary telephone dial with 37 finger holes .
Where 's the innovation ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>time we moved on from keyboards, or at least made them specialist add-ons that only a few would want.
Alternative input devices are still dismal, about as good as a rotary telephone dial with 37 finger holes.
Where's the innovation ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766386</id>
	<title>Re:This is not your father's Thinkpad Lenevo!</title>
	<author>satoshi1</author>
	<datestamp>1263492000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Swap the capslock and ctrl keys and I'm golden.  Oh wait, I already do this via software on both Linux and Windows.  Nevermind.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Swap the capslock and ctrl keys and I 'm golden .
Oh wait , I already do this via software on both Linux and Windows .
Nevermind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Swap the capslock and ctrl keys and I'm golden.
Oh wait, I already do this via software on both Linux and Windows.
Nevermind.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764546</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30768506</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263498720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"ilk"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" ilk " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"ilk"?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764826</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764432</id>
	<title>Scroll Lock</title>
	<author>Lord Lode</author>
	<datestamp>1263485880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Slightly related: All those Scroll Lock LED lights that nobody uses on every desktop keyboard... How much cleaner our environment would have been if all those LEDs didn't have to be produced!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Slightly related : All those Scroll Lock LED lights that nobody uses on every desktop keyboard... How much cleaner our environment would have been if all those LEDs did n't have to be produced !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slightly related: All those Scroll Lock LED lights that nobody uses on every desktop keyboard... How much cleaner our environment would have been if all those LEDs didn't have to be produced!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764302</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>mugurel</author>
	<datestamp>1263485460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>since<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. wouldn't let me, you will have to imagine here the inevitable caps lock key joke...</htmltext>
<tokenext>since / .
would n't let me , you will have to imagine here the inevitable caps lock key joke.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>since /.
wouldn't let me, you will have to imagine here the inevitable caps lock key joke...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764172</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766424</id>
	<title>Be careful, very careful ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263492120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... when messing with tradition.
<p>Back in the last century, when we were putting a lot of mainframe apps on the intranet at Boeing, fiddling with keyboard functions was a major problem. One app used by quite a few engineering managers would produce various reports upon pressing various function keys (F1..F12). Our initial approach was to provide links on the top of the page with the names of the reports. Not good enough. Everyone referred to them as the 'F10 report'. So we put the old key names in the URL text. Still not good enough. A few old timers couldn't be retrained to no longer punch the function keys. Other hilarity ensued*. A few geezers retired over the fuss. The moral of the story: Don't mess with tradition.
</p><p>*One amusing aspect of the whole mess was that the old 'function key reports' were printed out (on 132 column tractor-feed paper) back in a central printing facility. These would then be delivered through the intra-company mail (usually the next day) to the request originator. So these guys would click on the URL (if they hadn't already quit in a huff over the loss of the actual Fn hard key), see the report window pop up and assume that this was acknowledgment of the print job being generated. In spite of the big banner that said 'Print this page for a hard copy'. They'd sit patiently, expecting the printout to be delivered in the next day's mail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... when messing with tradition .
Back in the last century , when we were putting a lot of mainframe apps on the intranet at Boeing , fiddling with keyboard functions was a major problem .
One app used by quite a few engineering managers would produce various reports upon pressing various function keys ( F1..F12 ) .
Our initial approach was to provide links on the top of the page with the names of the reports .
Not good enough .
Everyone referred to them as the 'F10 report' .
So we put the old key names in the URL text .
Still not good enough .
A few old timers could n't be retrained to no longer punch the function keys .
Other hilarity ensued * .
A few geezers retired over the fuss .
The moral of the story : Do n't mess with tradition .
* One amusing aspect of the whole mess was that the old 'function key reports ' were printed out ( on 132 column tractor-feed paper ) back in a central printing facility .
These would then be delivered through the intra-company mail ( usually the next day ) to the request originator .
So these guys would click on the URL ( if they had n't already quit in a huff over the loss of the actual Fn hard key ) , see the report window pop up and assume that this was acknowledgment of the print job being generated .
In spite of the big banner that said 'Print this page for a hard copy' .
They 'd sit patiently , expecting the printout to be delivered in the next day 's mail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... when messing with tradition.
Back in the last century, when we were putting a lot of mainframe apps on the intranet at Boeing, fiddling with keyboard functions was a major problem.
One app used by quite a few engineering managers would produce various reports upon pressing various function keys (F1..F12).
Our initial approach was to provide links on the top of the page with the names of the reports.
Not good enough.
Everyone referred to them as the 'F10 report'.
So we put the old key names in the URL text.
Still not good enough.
A few old timers couldn't be retrained to no longer punch the function keys.
Other hilarity ensued*.
A few geezers retired over the fuss.
The moral of the story: Don't mess with tradition.
*One amusing aspect of the whole mess was that the old 'function key reports' were printed out (on 132 column tractor-feed paper) back in a central printing facility.
These would then be delivered through the intra-company mail (usually the next day) to the request originator.
So these guys would click on the URL (if they hadn't already quit in a huff over the loss of the actual Fn hard key), see the report window pop up and assume that this was acknowledgment of the print job being generated.
In spite of the big banner that said 'Print this page for a hard copy'.
They'd sit patiently, expecting the printout to be delivered in the next day's mail.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765568</id>
	<title>Re:This is not your father's Thinkpad Lenevo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263489360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some text is meant to be all caps.  e.g. blueprints, certain signs etc; stuff made on a computer nowadays</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some text is meant to be all caps .
e.g. blueprints , certain signs etc ; stuff made on a computer nowadays</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some text is meant to be all caps.
e.g. blueprints, certain signs etc; stuff made on a computer nowadays</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764546</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764788</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263486960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Alt+SysRq+S,<br>Alt+SysRq+U,<br>Alt+SysRq+B</p><p>in sequence</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Alt + SysRq + S,Alt + SysRq + U,Alt + SysRq + Bin sequence</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alt+SysRq+S,Alt+SysRq+U,Alt+SysRq+Bin sequence</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764354</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30793498</id>
	<title>Uhhh..?</title>
	<author>RichiH</author>
	<datestamp>1263639660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You obviously never tried ksnapshot -- best screen grabber ever<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You obviously never tried ksnapshot -- best screen grabber ever : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You obviously never tried ksnapshot -- best screen grabber ever :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764952</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765500</id>
	<title>Uuum, isn't the key also the print key?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1263489120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least here that&rsquo;s the case. So there really is no advantage or point to removing it.</p><p>How about we re-purpose that key to a generic KVM switch button?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least here that    s the case .
So there really is no advantage or point to removing it.How about we re-purpose that key to a generic KVM switch button ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least here that’s the case.
So there really is no advantage or point to removing it.How about we re-purpose that key to a generic KVM switch button?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764386</id>
	<title>About the 'Delete' Key...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263485760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When you are using any PC with Windows on it, you will use the 'Delete' key a lot 'Ctrl-Alt Delete' to get to task manager to maybe make things work again?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When you are using any PC with Windows on it , you will use the 'Delete ' key a lot 'Ctrl-Alt Delete ' to get to task manager to maybe make things work again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you are using any PC with Windows on it, you will use the 'Delete' key a lot 'Ctrl-Alt Delete' to get to task manager to maybe make things work again?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766604</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263492780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, but you have to take off your shoes and socks to type it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , but you have to take off your shoes and socks to type it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, but you have to take off your shoes and socks to type it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764218</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30775324</id>
	<title>Re:Goodbye to the ThinkPad brand.</title>
	<author>SpammersAreScum</author>
	<datestamp>1263490620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nah, the true hallmark is the middle mouse button. Very handy in Firefox and Emacs. My company is apparently moving from ThinkPads to HPs, and the prospect fills me with dread.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nah , the true hallmark is the middle mouse button .
Very handy in Firefox and Emacs .
My company is apparently moving from ThinkPads to HPs , and the prospect fills me with dread .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nah, the true hallmark is the middle mouse button.
Very handy in Firefox and Emacs.
My company is apparently moving from ThinkPads to HPs, and the prospect fills me with dread.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764398</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764424</id>
	<title>Why Do I Need Two Delete Keys</title>
	<author>fortapocalypse</author>
	<datestamp>1263485820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why are there two delete keys on an <a href="http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB110LL/A" title="apple.com" rel="nofollow">Apple Keyboard with Numeric Keypad</a> [apple.com]?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are there two delete keys on an Apple Keyboard with Numeric Keypad [ apple.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are there two delete keys on an Apple Keyboard with Numeric Keypad [apple.com]?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765616</id>
	<title>Re:Debug key</title>
	<author>pla</author>
	<datestamp>1263489540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>I guess there will be no more Raising Skinny Elephants on a Lenovo anymore. And while I have only used it a few times in the last year, I have used it.</i> <br>
<br>
Huh, I never actually bother using R and E (just a quick SUB).  But if you do... Shouldn't you E (or even I) <i>before</i> S?<br>
<br>
And skipping the U, <b>not</b> a good idea if you have large drives.  Checking an okay-but-not-clean 1TB drive can take a good half hour on rebooting.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess there will be no more Raising Skinny Elephants on a Lenovo anymore .
And while I have only used it a few times in the last year , I have used it .
Huh , I never actually bother using R and E ( just a quick SUB ) .
But if you do... Should n't you E ( or even I ) before S ?
And skipping the U , not a good idea if you have large drives .
Checking an okay-but-not-clean 1TB drive can take a good half hour on rebooting .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess there will be no more Raising Skinny Elephants on a Lenovo anymore.
And while I have only used it a few times in the last year, I have used it.
Huh, I never actually bother using R and E (just a quick SUB).
But if you do... Shouldn't you E (or even I) before S?
And skipping the U, not a good idea if you have large drives.
Checking an okay-but-not-clean 1TB drive can take a good half hour on rebooting.
:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764356</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30770920</id>
	<title>Re:Debug key</title>
	<author>neurovish</author>
	<datestamp>1263464160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>In Linux, the kernel can be configured to provide functions for system debugging and crash recovery.[4] This use is known as the "Magic SysRq key".</p></div><p>I guess there will be no more Raising Skinny Elephants on a Lenovo anymore.  And while I have only used it a few times in the last year, I have used it.</p></div><p>Meh, I always found that to be Utterly Boring anyways.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In Linux , the kernel can be configured to provide functions for system debugging and crash recovery .
[ 4 ] This use is known as the " Magic SysRq key " .I guess there will be no more Raising Skinny Elephants on a Lenovo anymore .
And while I have only used it a few times in the last year , I have used it.Meh , I always found that to be Utterly Boring anyways .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Linux, the kernel can be configured to provide functions for system debugging and crash recovery.
[4] This use is known as the "Magic SysRq key".I guess there will be no more Raising Skinny Elephants on a Lenovo anymore.
And while I have only used it a few times in the last year, I have used it.Meh, I always found that to be Utterly Boring anyways.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764356</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765118</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of unnecessary one and zero keys</title>
	<author>FromellaSlob</author>
	<datestamp>1263487920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pah. One and zero are the only keys that *are* essential.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pah .
One and zero are the only keys that * are * essential .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pah.
One and zero are the only keys that *are* essential.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764180</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767514</id>
	<title>Benefit in removing ONE key ?</title>
	<author>billcopc</author>
	<datestamp>1263495780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My big issue with this is that I don't understand WHY Lenovo would spend the effort, no matter how small, to research and redesign a keyboard just to remove one key.  It doesn't seem like a significant cost-cutting measure, nor do I see any usability improvement, and they've already drawn the negative attention of a few million geeks.  Most laptops are already a usability nightmare from the get-go, so why focus on this meaningless change ?</p><p>If anything, I'd want to see them ADD keys.  Give me back the numpad, add macro keys or modifiers a-la Logitech G-series, ditch the clitmouse and add a trackball or something...  Think about how a real road warrior would use the laptop and make it work FOR THOSE PEOPLE.  The average home user doesn't care, and is far more likely to treat the laptop as a crap desktop, using an external monitor, keyboard and mouse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My big issue with this is that I do n't understand WHY Lenovo would spend the effort , no matter how small , to research and redesign a keyboard just to remove one key .
It does n't seem like a significant cost-cutting measure , nor do I see any usability improvement , and they 've already drawn the negative attention of a few million geeks .
Most laptops are already a usability nightmare from the get-go , so why focus on this meaningless change ? If anything , I 'd want to see them ADD keys .
Give me back the numpad , add macro keys or modifiers a-la Logitech G-series , ditch the clitmouse and add a trackball or something... Think about how a real road warrior would use the laptop and make it work FOR THOSE PEOPLE .
The average home user does n't care , and is far more likely to treat the laptop as a crap desktop , using an external monitor , keyboard and mouse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My big issue with this is that I don't understand WHY Lenovo would spend the effort, no matter how small, to research and redesign a keyboard just to remove one key.
It doesn't seem like a significant cost-cutting measure, nor do I see any usability improvement, and they've already drawn the negative attention of a few million geeks.
Most laptops are already a usability nightmare from the get-go, so why focus on this meaningless change ?If anything, I'd want to see them ADD keys.
Give me back the numpad, add macro keys or modifiers a-la Logitech G-series, ditch the clitmouse and add a trackball or something...  Think about how a real road warrior would use the laptop and make it work FOR THOSE PEOPLE.
The average home user doesn't care, and is far more likely to treat the laptop as a crap desktop, using an external monitor, keyboard and mouse.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764378</id>
	<title>Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring</title>
	<author>Karellen</author>
	<datestamp>1263485700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But it is an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic\_SysRq\_key#.22Raising\_Elephants.22\_mnemonic\_device" title="wikipedia.org">invaluable use of the SysRq key.</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But it is an invaluable use of the SysRq key .
[ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But it is an invaluable use of the SysRq key.
[wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767548</id>
	<title>What's with the CapsLock hating?</title>
	<author>sean.peters</author>
	<datestamp>1263495900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Obviously you never have to type acronyms. You can have my CapsLock key when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Obviously you never have to type acronyms .
You can have my CapsLock key when you pry it from my cold , dead fingers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obviously you never have to type acronyms.
You can have my CapsLock key when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764172</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30768744</id>
	<title>When I was young...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263499560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and the hottest PC in town was the IBM AT...<br>the SysRq key was used to change to the special ISA card which contained a 5250 terminal, the 5250 card then took full control over the system.<br>The SysRq key is probably more useful than the WinKeys are.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and the hottest PC in town was the IBM AT...the SysRq key was used to change to the special ISA card which contained a 5250 terminal , the 5250 card then took full control over the system.The SysRq key is probably more useful than the WinKeys are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and the hottest PC in town was the IBM AT...the SysRq key was used to change to the special ISA card which contained a 5250 terminal, the 5250 card then took full control over the system.The SysRq key is probably more useful than the WinKeys are.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30769226</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>b1t r0t</author>
	<datestamp>1263501180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I was in a shop recently that sold laptops of many different brands. All of them, except Lenovo, had the CTRL key as the first key in the row, with the Fn key to the right of it.</p></div><p>I hate to break it to you, but Lenovo isn't the only one to do this. Apple does it too. But I do recall that whey they first came up with that layout (back in the G3 days?), I didn't like it much.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was in a shop recently that sold laptops of many different brands .
All of them , except Lenovo , had the CTRL key as the first key in the row , with the Fn key to the right of it.I hate to break it to you , but Lenovo is n't the only one to do this .
Apple does it too .
But I do recall that whey they first came up with that layout ( back in the G3 days ?
) , I did n't like it much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was in a shop recently that sold laptops of many different brands.
All of them, except Lenovo, had the CTRL key as the first key in the row, with the Fn key to the right of it.I hate to break it to you, but Lenovo isn't the only one to do this.
Apple does it too.
But I do recall that whey they first came up with that layout (back in the G3 days?
), I didn't like it much.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764214</id>
	<title>From having read TFA...</title>
	<author>Archaemic</author>
	<datestamp>1263485160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I also notice the Scroll Lock and Pause/Break keys are missing. I know you can use the Scroll Lock key in conjunction with Excel, but I'm not sure anyone else ever does. Although I have actually used it on the command line to, shock and awe, lock the screen from scrolling while it was booting up so I could see error messages before they disappeared into the dust.</p><p>Also, switching the F keys with the functionality usually relegated to Fn-F*, as mentioned in TFA, is nothing new. Apple has been doing that on their laptops for years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I also notice the Scroll Lock and Pause/Break keys are missing .
I know you can use the Scroll Lock key in conjunction with Excel , but I 'm not sure anyone else ever does .
Although I have actually used it on the command line to , shock and awe , lock the screen from scrolling while it was booting up so I could see error messages before they disappeared into the dust.Also , switching the F keys with the functionality usually relegated to Fn-F * , as mentioned in TFA , is nothing new .
Apple has been doing that on their laptops for years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also notice the Scroll Lock and Pause/Break keys are missing.
I know you can use the Scroll Lock key in conjunction with Excel, but I'm not sure anyone else ever does.
Although I have actually used it on the command line to, shock and awe, lock the screen from scrolling while it was booting up so I could see error messages before they disappeared into the dust.Also, switching the F keys with the functionality usually relegated to Fn-F*, as mentioned in TFA, is nothing new.
Apple has been doing that on their laptops for years.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766950</id>
	<title>Re:Probably not.</title>
	<author>mwvdlee</author>
	<datestamp>1263493920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You could remove that WinMenu key too (not the Win key, the one next to the right-hand Win key). The only time I touch it, is when I accidentally miss the Ctrl or Win keys next to it.</p><p>As for new keys... How about Undo and Redo keys? Perhaps dedicated Cut/Copy/Paste keys? For Windows specifically, Minimize and Maximize keys I might use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could remove that WinMenu key too ( not the Win key , the one next to the right-hand Win key ) .
The only time I touch it , is when I accidentally miss the Ctrl or Win keys next to it.As for new keys... How about Undo and Redo keys ?
Perhaps dedicated Cut/Copy/Paste keys ?
For Windows specifically , Minimize and Maximize keys I might use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could remove that WinMenu key too (not the Win key, the one next to the right-hand Win key).
The only time I touch it, is when I accidentally miss the Ctrl or Win keys next to it.As for new keys... How about Undo and Redo keys?
Perhaps dedicated Cut/Copy/Paste keys?
For Windows specifically, Minimize and Maximize keys I might use.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764372</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765840</id>
	<title>Re:Goodbye to the ThinkPad brand.</title>
	<author>Lord Ender</author>
	<datestamp>1263490260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What jumped the shark is the idea of using a notebook keyboard regularly.</p><p>Notebooks are getting really small now. This is because smaller = better mobility. Mobility trumps everything when you're traveling. When you're not traveling and mobility is not important, plug in a REAL monitor and a REAL keyboard to your notebook.</p><p>If you do NOT want your notebook to be optimized for mobility, well... that's a PEBKAC problem, not a design flaw in the device.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What jumped the shark is the idea of using a notebook keyboard regularly.Notebooks are getting really small now .
This is because smaller = better mobility .
Mobility trumps everything when you 're traveling .
When you 're not traveling and mobility is not important , plug in a REAL monitor and a REAL keyboard to your notebook.If you do NOT want your notebook to be optimized for mobility , well... that 's a PEBKAC problem , not a design flaw in the device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What jumped the shark is the idea of using a notebook keyboard regularly.Notebooks are getting really small now.
This is because smaller = better mobility.
Mobility trumps everything when you're traveling.
When you're not traveling and mobility is not important, plug in a REAL monitor and a REAL keyboard to your notebook.If you do NOT want your notebook to be optimized for mobility, well... that's a PEBKAC problem, not a design flaw in the device.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764398</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765982</id>
	<title>Glare screens</title>
	<author>El\_Isma</author>
	<datestamp>1263490680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's the deal with those screens? I can't see a thing! I don't understand how somebody would *like* that</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the deal with those screens ?
I ca n't see a thing !
I do n't understand how somebody would * like * that</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the deal with those screens?
I can't see a thing!
I don't understand how somebody would *like* that</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764398</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765710</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>SQL Error</author>
	<datestamp>1263489840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hold down both shift keys, both alt keys, and F1, pop the disk out of the drive and put it back in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hold down both shift keys , both alt keys , and F1 , pop the disk out of the drive and put it back in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hold down both shift keys, both alt keys, and F1, pop the disk out of the drive and put it back in.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764430</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765264</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1263488280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are heavily used by mainframe operators and data entry people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are heavily used by mainframe operators and data entry people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are heavily used by mainframe operators and data entry people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764172</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764134</id>
	<title>Debug key</title>
	<author>sopssa</author>
	<datestamp>1263484860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Ever wondered what the SysRq key on your keyboard does?</p></div></div><p><div class="quote"><p>Introduced by IBM with the PC/AT, it was intended to be available as a special key to directly invoke low-level operating system functions with no possibility of conflicting with any existing software.</p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>In Linux, the kernel can be configured to provide functions for system debugging and crash recovery.[4] This use is known as the "Magic SysRq key".</p><p>Microsoft has used SysRq for various OS- and application-level debuggers. In the CodeView debugger, it was sometimes used to break into the debugging during program execution.[5] For the Windows NT remote kernel debugger, it can be used to force the system into the debugger.[6]</p></div><p>So it's a handy debugger key for those who need one, functioning in the same key as print screen, but you need to hold alt key. What's the harm having it there, since it already is? It's not like it's an extra button on your keyboard.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ever wondered what the SysRq key on your keyboard does ? Introduced by IBM with the PC/AT , it was intended to be available as a special key to directly invoke low-level operating system functions with no possibility of conflicting with any existing software.In Linux , the kernel can be configured to provide functions for system debugging and crash recovery .
[ 4 ] This use is known as the " Magic SysRq key " .Microsoft has used SysRq for various OS- and application-level debuggers .
In the CodeView debugger , it was sometimes used to break into the debugging during program execution .
[ 5 ] For the Windows NT remote kernel debugger , it can be used to force the system into the debugger .
[ 6 ] So it 's a handy debugger key for those who need one , functioning in the same key as print screen , but you need to hold alt key .
What 's the harm having it there , since it already is ?
It 's not like it 's an extra button on your keyboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ever wondered what the SysRq key on your keyboard does?Introduced by IBM with the PC/AT, it was intended to be available as a special key to directly invoke low-level operating system functions with no possibility of conflicting with any existing software.In Linux, the kernel can be configured to provide functions for system debugging and crash recovery.
[4] This use is known as the "Magic SysRq key".Microsoft has used SysRq for various OS- and application-level debuggers.
In the CodeView debugger, it was sometimes used to break into the debugging during program execution.
[5] For the Windows NT remote kernel debugger, it can be used to force the system into the debugger.
[6]So it's a handy debugger key for those who need one, functioning in the same key as print screen, but you need to hold alt key.
What's the harm having it there, since it already is?
It's not like it's an extra button on your keyboard.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764826</id>
	<title>What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>Tomahawk</author>
	<datestamp>1263487080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One major ilk I have about laptop keyboard is the positioning of the CTRL and Fn keys.</p><p>I was in a shop recently that sold laptops of many different brands. All of them, except Lenovo, had the CTRL key as the first key in the row, with the Fn key to the right of it. This, IMHO, is the correct position for it - it's where my little finger automatically goes for CTRL, and where it is located on a 'normal' keyboard.</p><p>Lenovo had the Fn key first, with the CTRL key to the right, meaning that when you go to hit CTRL-, I hit Fn instead. This, for me, is a major factor is choosing what laptop to buy - if the CTRL key is in the wrong place, it's marked off the list immediately.</p><p>funny story:<br>Several years ago, for work, I got a Compaq Evo N620c (which I still use for work). While the Fn and CTRL keys are in the wrong place, at least they have the forethought to allow you to swap them in the BIOS, which I naturally did.<br>Now, the laptop was to be reburned, so the Service Desk took it in. When I went to pick it up the next day, they had a normal keyboard plugged into the PS/2 socket. I asked them why, and they told me that the CTRL key was broken and they couldn't use CTRL-ALT-DEL (yes, it's Windows. *sigh*)<br>So firstly I explained to them that the CTRL and Fn keys were swapped in the BIOS, and then asked the question "Why didn't you just use the CTRL key on the other side of the keyboard?" (which, when tried, worked perfectly).<br>*sigh*</p><p>T.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One major ilk I have about laptop keyboard is the positioning of the CTRL and Fn keys.I was in a shop recently that sold laptops of many different brands .
All of them , except Lenovo , had the CTRL key as the first key in the row , with the Fn key to the right of it .
This , IMHO , is the correct position for it - it 's where my little finger automatically goes for CTRL , and where it is located on a 'normal ' keyboard.Lenovo had the Fn key first , with the CTRL key to the right , meaning that when you go to hit CTRL- , I hit Fn instead .
This , for me , is a major factor is choosing what laptop to buy - if the CTRL key is in the wrong place , it 's marked off the list immediately.funny story : Several years ago , for work , I got a Compaq Evo N620c ( which I still use for work ) .
While the Fn and CTRL keys are in the wrong place , at least they have the forethought to allow you to swap them in the BIOS , which I naturally did.Now , the laptop was to be reburned , so the Service Desk took it in .
When I went to pick it up the next day , they had a normal keyboard plugged into the PS/2 socket .
I asked them why , and they told me that the CTRL key was broken and they could n't use CTRL-ALT-DEL ( yes , it 's Windows .
* sigh * ) So firstly I explained to them that the CTRL and Fn keys were swapped in the BIOS , and then asked the question " Why did n't you just use the CTRL key on the other side of the keyboard ?
" ( which , when tried , worked perfectly ) .
* sigh * T .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One major ilk I have about laptop keyboard is the positioning of the CTRL and Fn keys.I was in a shop recently that sold laptops of many different brands.
All of them, except Lenovo, had the CTRL key as the first key in the row, with the Fn key to the right of it.
This, IMHO, is the correct position for it - it's where my little finger automatically goes for CTRL, and where it is located on a 'normal' keyboard.Lenovo had the Fn key first, with the CTRL key to the right, meaning that when you go to hit CTRL-, I hit Fn instead.
This, for me, is a major factor is choosing what laptop to buy - if the CTRL key is in the wrong place, it's marked off the list immediately.funny story:Several years ago, for work, I got a Compaq Evo N620c (which I still use for work).
While the Fn and CTRL keys are in the wrong place, at least they have the forethought to allow you to swap them in the BIOS, which I naturally did.Now, the laptop was to be reburned, so the Service Desk took it in.
When I went to pick it up the next day, they had a normal keyboard plugged into the PS/2 socket.
I asked them why, and they told me that the CTRL key was broken and they couldn't use CTRL-ALT-DEL (yes, it's Windows.
*sigh*)So firstly I explained to them that the CTRL and Fn keys were swapped in the BIOS, and then asked the question "Why didn't you just use the CTRL key on the other side of the keyboard?
" (which, when tried, worked perfectly).
*sigh*T.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765904</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of unnecessary one and zero keys</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263490500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Pah. One and zero are the only keys that *are* essential.</p></div><p>Pah you you, newbie.<br>
&nbsp; - and . are the only essentials and they can be typed with just one key.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pah .
One and zero are the only keys that * are * essential.Pah you you , newbie .
  - and .
are the only essentials and they can be typed with just one key .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pah.
One and zero are the only keys that *are* essential.Pah you you, newbie.
  - and .
are the only essentials and they can be typed with just one key.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765118</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766482</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1263492360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>vista and 7 both have built in grabbing of areas on the screen.</p><p>Alt+PrintScreen has always just captured the window with focus. In only mention it because surprisingly few people are aware of that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>vista and 7 both have built in grabbing of areas on the screen.Alt + PrintScreen has always just captured the window with focus .
In only mention it because surprisingly few people are aware of that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>vista and 7 both have built in grabbing of areas on the screen.Alt+PrintScreen has always just captured the window with focus.
In only mention it because surprisingly few people are aware of that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764952</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30768088</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263497520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks the the trick <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony\_Robbins" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">banana hands</a> [wikipedia.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks the the trick banana hands [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks the the trick banana hands [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764738</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30774186</id>
	<title>Heck yes.. I need it.</title>
	<author>Allnighterking</author>
	<datestamp>1263480780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thanks to complaints to Xorg. the tried and true ctrl-&gt;Alt-&gt;bksp to do a hard restart of the X windowing system (like when you just did an update and need to restart X to get the new binaries in play). Has been replaced with left-alt-&gt;SysReq-&gt;k.  Folks it's either leave our keys alone of do it the Ubuntu way and reboot every time something happens.

Oh and why did it get replaced.  Seems that WinUsers use ctrl-&gt;Alt-&gt;bksp to go back one word in one of the office apps..... sheeesh.  One more reason to drop Lenovo (other than their poor performance and quality of fit and finish of late.  (20 laptops in.... 15 laptops back to repair, in the first 24 hours.  Not good, finally RMA's the lot.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks to complaints to Xorg .
the tried and true ctrl- &gt; Alt- &gt; bksp to do a hard restart of the X windowing system ( like when you just did an update and need to restart X to get the new binaries in play ) .
Has been replaced with left-alt- &gt; SysReq- &gt; k .
Folks it 's either leave our keys alone of do it the Ubuntu way and reboot every time something happens .
Oh and why did it get replaced .
Seems that WinUsers use ctrl- &gt; Alt- &gt; bksp to go back one word in one of the office apps..... sheeesh. One more reason to drop Lenovo ( other than their poor performance and quality of fit and finish of late .
( 20 laptops in.... 15 laptops back to repair , in the first 24 hours .
Not good , finally RMA 's the lot .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks to complaints to Xorg.
the tried and true ctrl-&gt;Alt-&gt;bksp to do a hard restart of the X windowing system (like when you just did an update and need to restart X to get the new binaries in play).
Has been replaced with left-alt-&gt;SysReq-&gt;k.
Folks it's either leave our keys alone of do it the Ubuntu way and reboot every time something happens.
Oh and why did it get replaced.
Seems that WinUsers use ctrl-&gt;Alt-&gt;bksp to go back one word in one of the office apps..... sheeesh.  One more reason to drop Lenovo (other than their poor performance and quality of fit and finish of late.
(20 laptops in.... 15 laptops back to repair, in the first 24 hours.
Not good, finally RMA's the lot.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30768154</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>ProfessionalCookie</author>
	<datestamp>1263497700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You know, you could use a different button or cord for that.  It's not like the function dies if the button goes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , you could use a different button or cord for that .
It 's not like the function dies if the button goes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, you could use a different button or cord for that.
It's not like the function dies if the button goes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30775556</id>
	<title>Re:Chiclets</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263493380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a difference between chiclet keys that have the same travel, feel, and subtle sculpted shape on top of each key like a traditional Thinkpad keyboard and the flat chiclet keys you find on recent Acer and Apple machines.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a difference between chiclet keys that have the same travel , feel , and subtle sculpted shape on top of each key like a traditional Thinkpad keyboard and the flat chiclet keys you find on recent Acer and Apple machines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a difference between chiclet keys that have the same travel, feel, and subtle sculpted shape on top of each key like a traditional Thinkpad keyboard and the flat chiclet keys you find on recent Acer and Apple machines.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764938</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30768046</id>
	<title>The mind reels...</title>
	<author>sean.peters</author>
	<datestamp>1263497460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>As a Linux developer this move screams to me: "HEY! WE'RE LENEVO, AND NOW THAT WE HAVE BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO THE THINKPAD NAME FROM IBM, WE ARE SHOUTING HOW CLUELESS WE ARE BECOMING FROM THE VIRTUAL ROOFTOPS".</p></div></blockquote><p>In one of the bigger ironies seen on Slashdot today, the guy who prefaces his post with a complaint about the CapsLock key... then goes on to type an entire sentence in all caps. If you did that without the CapsLock key, you did it the hard way.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a Linux developer this move screams to me : " HEY !
WE 'RE LENEVO , AND NOW THAT WE HAVE BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO THE THINKPAD NAME FROM IBM , WE ARE SHOUTING HOW CLUELESS WE ARE BECOMING FROM THE VIRTUAL ROOFTOPS " .In one of the bigger ironies seen on Slashdot today , the guy who prefaces his post with a complaint about the CapsLock key... then goes on to type an entire sentence in all caps .
If you did that without the CapsLock key , you did it the hard way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a Linux developer this move screams to me: "HEY!
WE'RE LENEVO, AND NOW THAT WE HAVE BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO THE THINKPAD NAME FROM IBM, WE ARE SHOUTING HOW CLUELESS WE ARE BECOMING FROM THE VIRTUAL ROOFTOPS".In one of the bigger ironies seen on Slashdot today, the guy who prefaces his post with a complaint about the CapsLock key... then goes on to type an entire sentence in all caps.
If you did that without the CapsLock key, you did it the hard way.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764546</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30768070</id>
	<title>Num Lock appears to have dissapeared too</title>
	<author>sago007</author>
	<datestamp>1263497460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Caps lock might be good as an alternative for sticky shift for people with too few fingers but I believe it to be a legacy from the typewriter days then physical locking the shift could save some effort (depending on typewriter shift could be rather heavy if typing more than one capital letter). It is placed they too centrally no matter how I look at it.</p><p>I press Num lock all the time because it always seems to be in the wrong state.<br>If there is a keypad on the keyboard I expect it to be permanently ON (absolutely no exceptions). Most operating systems I have come across have a bad habit of turning it off sometimes without changing the light.<br>If the keypad is placed among the normal buttons I expect it to be permanently OFF (absolutely no exceptions either)<br>From the picture it appears that both Num Lock and the numpad keys in the middle of the normal keys are gone. I can hope that this means that the state of num lock does not matter. The keys should never have been placed among the normal keys in the first place.</p><p>I don't like that they have remapped the function keys and replaced them with brightness, volume and so on. I need to press F2 more often than I need to change the brightness. I know that they are considered a legacy from the days before the mouse... but I don't always have a mouse connected to my laptop and even on the desktop I often prefer the F-keys.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Caps lock might be good as an alternative for sticky shift for people with too few fingers but I believe it to be a legacy from the typewriter days then physical locking the shift could save some effort ( depending on typewriter shift could be rather heavy if typing more than one capital letter ) .
It is placed they too centrally no matter how I look at it.I press Num lock all the time because it always seems to be in the wrong state.If there is a keypad on the keyboard I expect it to be permanently ON ( absolutely no exceptions ) .
Most operating systems I have come across have a bad habit of turning it off sometimes without changing the light.If the keypad is placed among the normal buttons I expect it to be permanently OFF ( absolutely no exceptions either ) From the picture it appears that both Num Lock and the numpad keys in the middle of the normal keys are gone .
I can hope that this means that the state of num lock does not matter .
The keys should never have been placed among the normal keys in the first place.I do n't like that they have remapped the function keys and replaced them with brightness , volume and so on .
I need to press F2 more often than I need to change the brightness .
I know that they are considered a legacy from the days before the mouse... but I do n't always have a mouse connected to my laptop and even on the desktop I often prefer the F-keys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Caps lock might be good as an alternative for sticky shift for people with too few fingers but I believe it to be a legacy from the typewriter days then physical locking the shift could save some effort (depending on typewriter shift could be rather heavy if typing more than one capital letter).
It is placed they too centrally no matter how I look at it.I press Num lock all the time because it always seems to be in the wrong state.If there is a keypad on the keyboard I expect it to be permanently ON (absolutely no exceptions).
Most operating systems I have come across have a bad habit of turning it off sometimes without changing the light.If the keypad is placed among the normal buttons I expect it to be permanently OFF (absolutely no exceptions either)From the picture it appears that both Num Lock and the numpad keys in the middle of the normal keys are gone.
I can hope that this means that the state of num lock does not matter.
The keys should never have been placed among the normal keys in the first place.I don't like that they have remapped the function keys and replaced them with brightness, volume and so on.
I need to press F2 more often than I need to change the brightness.
I know that they are considered a legacy from the days before the mouse... but I don't always have a mouse connected to my laptop and even on the desktop I often prefer the F-keys.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764884</id>
	<title>Re:They're remapping something else</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263487260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Because they're probably remapping print screen too. Notice how "print screen" doesn't cause ink to get committed to paper in either Windows or GNOME.</p></div><p>Print Screen in windows saves a copy of your screen to your clipboard which you can then paste into image editing programs.  I actually use it a bunch.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because they 're probably remapping print screen too .
Notice how " print screen " does n't cause ink to get committed to paper in either Windows or GNOME.Print Screen in windows saves a copy of your screen to your clipboard which you can then paste into image editing programs .
I actually use it a bunch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because they're probably remapping print screen too.
Notice how "print screen" doesn't cause ink to get committed to paper in either Windows or GNOME.Print Screen in windows saves a copy of your screen to your clipboard which you can then paste into image editing programs.
I actually use it a bunch.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764728</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263486720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You press the letters in sequence (while continuing to hold the Alt-SysRq) s = sync file systems, u = remount all file systems read-only, b = reboot immediately w/o performing file-system unmount nor sync</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You press the letters in sequence ( while continuing to hold the Alt-SysRq ) s = sync file systems , u = remount all file systems read-only , b = reboot immediately w/o performing file-system unmount nor sync</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You press the letters in sequence (while continuing to hold the Alt-SysRq) s = sync file systems, u = remount all file systems read-only, b = reboot immediately w/o performing file-system unmount nor sync</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30782560</id>
	<title>Re:I don't care much about the SysRq key but...</title>
	<author>RedBear</author>
	<datestamp>1263587340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>For the love of $deity, but the CTRL key back where it frakkin' belongs, next to the frakkin' A key!</p><p>Seriously. CTRL-key combo's are much easier to press, while touch typing, when the CTRL key is just to the left of the A key.</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>RM</p></div><p>You know that's never going to happen.</p><p>But do you know what's even easier? The Command key on Macs has always been right next to the space bar, like the Alt key on PC keyboards. Because of the ridiculous placement of the Control key on PC keyboards, almost the only keyboard shortcut I ever used in 20 years of using Windows was Alt+Tab and a couple other things like Alt+F,S and Alt+F,X. The Control key shortcuts were just too much of a pain to use, and I don't think moving the Control key back to the Caps Lock position really makes that much better. In comparison, I've got about 20 different keyboard shortcuts on the Mac that I use frequently, just because it's so easy to move my thumb over to the Command key. I almost never have any reason to more my hands away from the home keys. It's one of the main reasons I switched to Mac and gave up on both Windows and Linux.</p><p>Don't even get me started on how many completely non-standardized keyboard shortcut sets I ran into in the Linux world. Every Linux desktop environment and application toolkit had a different, and incompatible, set of shortcuts. I hope that's been improved during the last few years, but I kind of doubt it based on my years of using Linux. The thing that irritated me so much is that the Linux world has always had the capability to provide optional unified keyboard shortcut configurations that would mimic the beauty of the Mac setup, but (at least at the time) nobody had apparently bothered to even attempt to create the necessary configuration files to unify things in any way. So every other application I used, even in the most "user friendly" Linux distributions like Mandrake, had a completely different set of valid shortcuts. To top it off, very few primary (single key) shortcuts were based on the easily accessible Alt key rather than the Control key. Everywhere I looked things were designed to mimic the horribleness of Windows keyboard shortcuts rather than boldly striking out to create something better.</p><p>As far as I'm concerned, arguing about the loss of an ancient and pretty much vestigial key that 99.99\% of the world hasn't had any use for in decades is the least of the problems with today's PC keyboards.</p></div>
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<tokenext>For the love of $ deity , but the CTRL key back where it frakkin ' belongs , next to the frakkin ' A key ! Seriously .
CTRL-key combo 's are much easier to press , while touch typing , when the CTRL key is just to the left of the A key.Cheers,RMYou know that 's never going to happen.But do you know what 's even easier ?
The Command key on Macs has always been right next to the space bar , like the Alt key on PC keyboards .
Because of the ridiculous placement of the Control key on PC keyboards , almost the only keyboard shortcut I ever used in 20 years of using Windows was Alt + Tab and a couple other things like Alt + F,S and Alt + F,X .
The Control key shortcuts were just too much of a pain to use , and I do n't think moving the Control key back to the Caps Lock position really makes that much better .
In comparison , I 've got about 20 different keyboard shortcuts on the Mac that I use frequently , just because it 's so easy to move my thumb over to the Command key .
I almost never have any reason to more my hands away from the home keys .
It 's one of the main reasons I switched to Mac and gave up on both Windows and Linux.Do n't even get me started on how many completely non-standardized keyboard shortcut sets I ran into in the Linux world .
Every Linux desktop environment and application toolkit had a different , and incompatible , set of shortcuts .
I hope that 's been improved during the last few years , but I kind of doubt it based on my years of using Linux .
The thing that irritated me so much is that the Linux world has always had the capability to provide optional unified keyboard shortcut configurations that would mimic the beauty of the Mac setup , but ( at least at the time ) nobody had apparently bothered to even attempt to create the necessary configuration files to unify things in any way .
So every other application I used , even in the most " user friendly " Linux distributions like Mandrake , had a completely different set of valid shortcuts .
To top it off , very few primary ( single key ) shortcuts were based on the easily accessible Alt key rather than the Control key .
Everywhere I looked things were designed to mimic the horribleness of Windows keyboard shortcuts rather than boldly striking out to create something better.As far as I 'm concerned , arguing about the loss of an ancient and pretty much vestigial key that 99.99 \ % of the world has n't had any use for in decades is the least of the problems with today 's PC keyboards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the love of $deity, but the CTRL key back where it frakkin' belongs, next to the frakkin' A key!Seriously.
CTRL-key combo's are much easier to press, while touch typing, when the CTRL key is just to the left of the A key.Cheers,RMYou know that's never going to happen.But do you know what's even easier?
The Command key on Macs has always been right next to the space bar, like the Alt key on PC keyboards.
Because of the ridiculous placement of the Control key on PC keyboards, almost the only keyboard shortcut I ever used in 20 years of using Windows was Alt+Tab and a couple other things like Alt+F,S and Alt+F,X.
The Control key shortcuts were just too much of a pain to use, and I don't think moving the Control key back to the Caps Lock position really makes that much better.
In comparison, I've got about 20 different keyboard shortcuts on the Mac that I use frequently, just because it's so easy to move my thumb over to the Command key.
I almost never have any reason to more my hands away from the home keys.
It's one of the main reasons I switched to Mac and gave up on both Windows and Linux.Don't even get me started on how many completely non-standardized keyboard shortcut sets I ran into in the Linux world.
Every Linux desktop environment and application toolkit had a different, and incompatible, set of shortcuts.
I hope that's been improved during the last few years, but I kind of doubt it based on my years of using Linux.
The thing that irritated me so much is that the Linux world has always had the capability to provide optional unified keyboard shortcut configurations that would mimic the beauty of the Mac setup, but (at least at the time) nobody had apparently bothered to even attempt to create the necessary configuration files to unify things in any way.
So every other application I used, even in the most "user friendly" Linux distributions like Mandrake, had a completely different set of valid shortcuts.
To top it off, very few primary (single key) shortcuts were based on the easily accessible Alt key rather than the Control key.
Everywhere I looked things were designed to mimic the horribleness of Windows keyboard shortcuts rather than boldly striking out to create something better.As far as I'm concerned, arguing about the loss of an ancient and pretty much vestigial key that 99.99\% of the world hasn't had any use for in decades is the least of the problems with today's PC keyboards.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30773170</id>
	<title>Re:Goodbye to the ThinkPad brand.</title>
	<author>atisss</author>
	<datestamp>1263474240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hope that soon somebody will start using horizontally split display.. so you can use it in small mode (full sized keyboard + keyboard sized display) or extend second display on top to get two keyboard sized displays.

but hell, yes, i use Insert/Delete block all the time, and I really hate that all top-grade keyboards have it messed up..</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope that soon somebody will start using horizontally split display.. so you can use it in small mode ( full sized keyboard + keyboard sized display ) or extend second display on top to get two keyboard sized displays .
but hell , yes , i use Insert/Delete block all the time , and I really hate that all top-grade keyboards have it messed up. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope that soon somebody will start using horizontally split display.. so you can use it in small mode (full sized keyboard + keyboard sized display) or extend second display on top to get two keyboard sized displays.
but hell, yes, i use Insert/Delete block all the time, and I really hate that all top-grade keyboards have it messed up..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765890</id>
	<title>Function</title>
	<author>Y\_Less</author>
	<datestamp>1263490440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm more concerned about their demotion of the function keys.. The only ones of those I don't use regularly are F9 and F10 and I really should use them more.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm more concerned about their demotion of the function keys.. The only ones of those I do n't use regularly are F9 and F10 and I really should use them more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm more concerned about their demotion of the function keys.. The only ones of those I don't use regularly are F9 and F10 and I really should use them more.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30778168</id>
	<title>litl has no sysrq, no capslock, no Fn keys</title>
	<author>litlphil</author>
	<datestamp>1263566940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not news.  litl.com got rid of all of 'em.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not news .
litl.com got rid of all of 'em .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not news.
litl.com got rid of all of 'em.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30778332</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>adrianmsmith</author>
	<datestamp>1263567840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes I totally agree, that's one reason why I'll never buy a Mac. (And I'm sure Apple aren't going to change any time soon, as all their users are presumably used to their positioning).
   <br> <br>
CTRL should clearly be on the left, that's where you expect it to be from normal keyboards. If there's one key that's flexible where you put it, it's the FN key, that doesn't have an equivalent on normal keyboards so there is no expectation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes I totally agree , that 's one reason why I 'll never buy a Mac .
( And I 'm sure Apple are n't going to change any time soon , as all their users are presumably used to their positioning ) .
CTRL should clearly be on the left , that 's where you expect it to be from normal keyboards .
If there 's one key that 's flexible where you put it , it 's the FN key , that does n't have an equivalent on normal keyboards so there is no expectation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes I totally agree, that's one reason why I'll never buy a Mac.
(And I'm sure Apple aren't going to change any time soon, as all their users are presumably used to their positioning).
CTRL should clearly be on the left, that's where you expect it to be from normal keyboards.
If there's one key that's flexible where you put it, it's the FN key, that doesn't have an equivalent on normal keyboards so there is no expectation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764310</id>
	<title>Laptops</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1263485520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Anyone who needs a Caps Lock Key for legitimate technical reasons can buy a specialized keyboard for that purpose.</p></div><p>And install it into the laptop's chassis how?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone who needs a Caps Lock Key for legitimate technical reasons can buy a specialized keyboard for that purpose.And install it into the laptop 's chassis how ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone who needs a Caps Lock Key for legitimate technical reasons can buy a specialized keyboard for that purpose.And install it into the laptop's chassis how?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766476</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>Steve Max</author>
	<datestamp>1263492300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>New Fortran standards don't require upper case anymore (if you can call F77 "new", of course). We don't need caps lock at all. However, the COBOL guys may be a problem (I'm really not up to date with the latest developments on that front).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>New Fortran standards do n't require upper case anymore ( if you can call F77 " new " , of course ) .
We do n't need caps lock at all .
However , the COBOL guys may be a problem ( I 'm really not up to date with the latest developments on that front ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>New Fortran standards don't require upper case anymore (if you can call F77 "new", of course).
We don't need caps lock at all.
However, the COBOL guys may be a problem (I'm really not up to date with the latest developments on that front).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764222</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263485160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>both of those keys are absolutely essential to people in the data entry business.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>both of those keys are absolutely essential to people in the data entry business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>both of those keys are absolutely essential to people in the data entry business.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765142</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Wint3rhart</author>
	<datestamp>1263487980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well hey, I just learned something.  Let it never be said that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. isn't useful!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well hey , I just learned something .
Let it never be said that / .
is n't useful !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well hey, I just learned something.
Let it never be said that /.
isn't useful!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30778708</id>
	<title>Re:They're remapping something else</title>
	<author>troll8901</author>
	<datestamp>1263569760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Notice how "print screen" doesn't cause ink to get committed to paper in either Windows or GNOME.</p></div><p>Aye!  I remember good ol' DOS 5's GRAPHICS.EXE (or was it GRAPHICS.COM?) and Print Screen - looks far better than the default BIOS-handled (I assume) routine.  I used it to print my game screen - Jet Fighter 2 or Shanghai II: Dragon's Eye.</p><p>Now, if only I can use Shift+F7 to print (the same as WordPerfect 5.1), then I'd be really at home!</p><p>I'm getting old already.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Notice how " print screen " does n't cause ink to get committed to paper in either Windows or GNOME.Aye !
I remember good ol ' DOS 5 's GRAPHICS.EXE ( or was it GRAPHICS.COM ?
) and Print Screen - looks far better than the default BIOS-handled ( I assume ) routine .
I used it to print my game screen - Jet Fighter 2 or Shanghai II : Dragon 's Eye.Now , if only I can use Shift + F7 to print ( the same as WordPerfect 5.1 ) , then I 'd be really at home ! I 'm getting old already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Notice how "print screen" doesn't cause ink to get committed to paper in either Windows or GNOME.Aye!
I remember good ol' DOS 5's GRAPHICS.EXE (or was it GRAPHICS.COM?
) and Print Screen - looks far better than the default BIOS-handled (I assume) routine.
I used it to print my game screen - Jet Fighter 2 or Shanghai II: Dragon's Eye.Now, if only I can use Shift+F7 to print (the same as WordPerfect 5.1), then I'd be really at home!I'm getting old already.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765168</id>
	<title>Re:From having read TFA...</title>
	<author>tomtomtom</author>
	<datestamp>1263488040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can use Ctrl+S to stop scrolling and Ctrl+Q to resume it. Much better to learn those because they work over ssh and on other Unices too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can use Ctrl + S to stop scrolling and Ctrl + Q to resume it .
Much better to learn those because they work over ssh and on other Unices too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can use Ctrl+S to stop scrolling and Ctrl+Q to resume it.
Much better to learn those because they work over ssh and on other Unices too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30774246</id>
	<title>Re:I don't care much about the SysRq key but...</title>
	<author>Zorque</author>
	<datestamp>1263481260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know, whenever I have to use my girlfriend's laptop, which is a Lenovo, it takes me forever to get used to her keyboard. They slightly shifted even the letter keys around so they don't line up the way they should on a regular keyboard, and the function key is where the control key should be. I wish they'd quit making me waste time in the process of trying to save me time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know , whenever I have to use my girlfriend 's laptop , which is a Lenovo , it takes me forever to get used to her keyboard .
They slightly shifted even the letter keys around so they do n't line up the way they should on a regular keyboard , and the function key is where the control key should be .
I wish they 'd quit making me waste time in the process of trying to save me time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know, whenever I have to use my girlfriend's laptop, which is a Lenovo, it takes me forever to get used to her keyboard.
They slightly shifted even the letter keys around so they don't line up the way they should on a regular keyboard, and the function key is where the control key should be.
I wish they'd quit making me waste time in the process of trying to save me time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30769516</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>DigitalCrackPipe</author>
	<datestamp>1263502140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're thinking of a desktop keyboard.  They have already removed a bunch of keys and made them function alternates for the other keys (e.g. fn-insert = print screen).</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're thinking of a desktop keyboard .
They have already removed a bunch of keys and made them function alternates for the other keys ( e.g .
fn-insert = print screen ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're thinking of a desktop keyboard.
They have already removed a bunch of keys and made them function alternates for the other keys (e.g.
fn-insert = print screen).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764908</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>omgarthas</author>
	<datestamp>1263487260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know why, but the windows computer at my job does the Copy with CONTROL + INSERT and the Paste with SHIFT + INSERT, weird, I know... It's Windows XP, I could change it if I wanted, but I've just get used to it, tho at home I use the common ctrl-c, ctrl-v....</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know why , but the windows computer at my job does the Copy with CONTROL + INSERT and the Paste with SHIFT + INSERT , weird , I know... It 's Windows XP , I could change it if I wanted , but I 've just get used to it , tho at home I use the common ctrl-c , ctrl-v... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know why, but the windows computer at my job does the Copy with CONTROL + INSERT and the Paste with SHIFT + INSERT, weird, I know... It's Windows XP, I could change it if I wanted, but I've just get used to it, tho at home I use the common ctrl-c, ctrl-v....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764322</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764756</id>
	<title>So what about CTRL and Fn</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263486840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One major ilk I have about laptop keyboard is the positioning of the CTRL and Fn keys.</p><p>I was in a shop recently that sold laptops of many different brands.  All of them, except Lenovo, had the CTRL key as the first key in the row, with the Fn key to the right of it.  This, IMHO, is the correct position for it - it's where my little finger automatically goes for CTRL, and where it is located on a 'normal' keyboard.</p><p>Lenovo had the Fn key first, with the CTRL key to the right, meaning that when you go to hit CTRL-, I hit Fn instead.  This, for me, is a major factor is choosing what laptop to buy - if the CTRL key is in the wrong place, it's marked off the list immediately.</p><p>funny story:<br>Several years ago, for work, I got a Compaq Evo N620c (which I still use for work).  While the Fn and CTRL keys are in the wrong place, at least they have the forethought to allow you to swap them in the BIOS, which I naturally did.<br>Now, the laptop was to be reburned, so the Service Desk took it in.  When I went to pick it up the next day, they had a normal keyboard plugged into the PS/2 socket.  I asked them why, and they told me that the CTRL key was broken and they couldn't use CTRL-ALT-DEL (yes, it's Windows.  *sigh*)<br>So firstly I explained to them that the CTRL and Fn keys were swapped in the BIOS, and then asked the question "Why didn't you just use the CTRL key on the other side of the keyboard?" (which, when tried, worked perfectly).<br>*sigh*</p><p>T.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One major ilk I have about laptop keyboard is the positioning of the CTRL and Fn keys.I was in a shop recently that sold laptops of many different brands .
All of them , except Lenovo , had the CTRL key as the first key in the row , with the Fn key to the right of it .
This , IMHO , is the correct position for it - it 's where my little finger automatically goes for CTRL , and where it is located on a 'normal ' keyboard.Lenovo had the Fn key first , with the CTRL key to the right , meaning that when you go to hit CTRL- , I hit Fn instead .
This , for me , is a major factor is choosing what laptop to buy - if the CTRL key is in the wrong place , it 's marked off the list immediately.funny story : Several years ago , for work , I got a Compaq Evo N620c ( which I still use for work ) .
While the Fn and CTRL keys are in the wrong place , at least they have the forethought to allow you to swap them in the BIOS , which I naturally did.Now , the laptop was to be reburned , so the Service Desk took it in .
When I went to pick it up the next day , they had a normal keyboard plugged into the PS/2 socket .
I asked them why , and they told me that the CTRL key was broken and they could n't use CTRL-ALT-DEL ( yes , it 's Windows .
* sigh * ) So firstly I explained to them that the CTRL and Fn keys were swapped in the BIOS , and then asked the question " Why did n't you just use the CTRL key on the other side of the keyboard ?
" ( which , when tried , worked perfectly ) .
* sigh * T .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One major ilk I have about laptop keyboard is the positioning of the CTRL and Fn keys.I was in a shop recently that sold laptops of many different brands.
All of them, except Lenovo, had the CTRL key as the first key in the row, with the Fn key to the right of it.
This, IMHO, is the correct position for it - it's where my little finger automatically goes for CTRL, and where it is located on a 'normal' keyboard.Lenovo had the Fn key first, with the CTRL key to the right, meaning that when you go to hit CTRL-, I hit Fn instead.
This, for me, is a major factor is choosing what laptop to buy - if the CTRL key is in the wrong place, it's marked off the list immediately.funny story:Several years ago, for work, I got a Compaq Evo N620c (which I still use for work).
While the Fn and CTRL keys are in the wrong place, at least they have the forethought to allow you to swap them in the BIOS, which I naturally did.Now, the laptop was to be reburned, so the Service Desk took it in.
When I went to pick it up the next day, they had a normal keyboard plugged into the PS/2 socket.
I asked them why, and they told me that the CTRL key was broken and they couldn't use CTRL-ALT-DEL (yes, it's Windows.
*sigh*)So firstly I explained to them that the CTRL and Fn keys were swapped in the BIOS, and then asked the question "Why didn't you just use the CTRL key on the other side of the keyboard?
" (which, when tried, worked perfectly).
*sigh*T.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765834</id>
	<title>UTS terminal emulators use it as Message Request.</title>
	<author>Richard Steiner</author>
	<datestamp>1263490260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not that many folks are using UTS/Uniscope terminal emulation packages like UTS Express or QTerm anymore, but some of us still do.  At least the programs will allow functions to be remapped, but SysRQ is an intuitive key for that type of function.  It's a low-level interrupt sent to the mainframe OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not that many folks are using UTS/Uniscope terminal emulation packages like UTS Express or QTerm anymore , but some of us still do .
At least the programs will allow functions to be remapped , but SysRQ is an intuitive key for that type of function .
It 's a low-level interrupt sent to the mainframe OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not that many folks are using UTS/Uniscope terminal emulation packages like UTS Express or QTerm anymore, but some of us still do.
At least the programs will allow functions to be remapped, but SysRQ is an intuitive key for that type of function.
It's a low-level interrupt sent to the mainframe OS.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765704</id>
	<title>Re:From having read TFA...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263489840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is a real PITA though. Functions keys are used a lot, media keys hardly ever. On the very rare occasions I need to change the volume or brightness, I'm happy pressing Fn as well. However, function keys are used extensively in almost every application I use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is a real PITA though .
Functions keys are used a lot , media keys hardly ever .
On the very rare occasions I need to change the volume or brightness , I 'm happy pressing Fn as well .
However , function keys are used extensively in almost every application I use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is a real PITA though.
Functions keys are used a lot, media keys hardly ever.
On the very rare occasions I need to change the volume or brightness, I'm happy pressing Fn as well.
However, function keys are used extensively in almost every application I use.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764214</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765230</id>
	<title>But you don't only lose a key</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1263488220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm pretty sure you'll get a few new ones in return. Lenovo already brought us such indispensable important keys like one to turn on a reading lamp on your computer (I'm still trying to figure out what to do with it because... well, ya know, the screen comes with its own light), keys to increase and decrease the volume of your speakers (so very important if your boss suddenly comes in and you have to at least mute the sound of the game you're playing immediately, you still have the few seconds he needs to your desk to switch tasks) and so many more important keys.</p><p>I'm sure this time we get something stunning and innovative like a key to flip automatically through Powerpoint pages or something similar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm pretty sure you 'll get a few new ones in return .
Lenovo already brought us such indispensable important keys like one to turn on a reading lamp on your computer ( I 'm still trying to figure out what to do with it because... well , ya know , the screen comes with its own light ) , keys to increase and decrease the volume of your speakers ( so very important if your boss suddenly comes in and you have to at least mute the sound of the game you 're playing immediately , you still have the few seconds he needs to your desk to switch tasks ) and so many more important keys.I 'm sure this time we get something stunning and innovative like a key to flip automatically through Powerpoint pages or something similar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm pretty sure you'll get a few new ones in return.
Lenovo already brought us such indispensable important keys like one to turn on a reading lamp on your computer (I'm still trying to figure out what to do with it because... well, ya know, the screen comes with its own light), keys to increase and decrease the volume of your speakers (so very important if your boss suddenly comes in and you have to at least mute the sound of the game you're playing immediately, you still have the few seconds he needs to your desk to switch tasks) and so many more important keys.I'm sure this time we get something stunning and innovative like a key to flip automatically through Powerpoint pages or something similar.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766576</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of the Fn key</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1263492720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This breaks down in the face of notebooks often having more key mappings than keys (even more so than regular keyboards) and software actually needing combinations like Alt-F2. Granted, we could add a seventh row of keys but that would require all keys to be smaller. We could also leave things like screen and keyboard brightness and volume controls off the keyboard but since most people like being able to adjust those thing without having to navigate some control panel you're looking at a tough sale.<br>
<br>
You could add those things as a separate set of very small buttons but since most decent notebooks already divde all available space between the keyboard, the trackpad and the hand rests it's unlikely that you can find a proper space without having to make other sacrifices.<br>
<br>
What I'd like to see would be arbitrary Fn mapping support from OSes. Since most keys don't have an Fn binding you can map then to things useful to you. Fn-[number] could switch between network configurations or power saving modes; Fn-V could launch VMWare etc.<br>
I am aware that you can do the same just fine with CTRL and ALT but their combinations have the disadvantage that they're often already used by the OS or programs for hotkeys.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This breaks down in the face of notebooks often having more key mappings than keys ( even more so than regular keyboards ) and software actually needing combinations like Alt-F2 .
Granted , we could add a seventh row of keys but that would require all keys to be smaller .
We could also leave things like screen and keyboard brightness and volume controls off the keyboard but since most people like being able to adjust those thing without having to navigate some control panel you 're looking at a tough sale .
You could add those things as a separate set of very small buttons but since most decent notebooks already divde all available space between the keyboard , the trackpad and the hand rests it 's unlikely that you can find a proper space without having to make other sacrifices .
What I 'd like to see would be arbitrary Fn mapping support from OSes .
Since most keys do n't have an Fn binding you can map then to things useful to you .
Fn- [ number ] could switch between network configurations or power saving modes ; Fn-V could launch VMWare etc .
I am aware that you can do the same just fine with CTRL and ALT but their combinations have the disadvantage that they 're often already used by the OS or programs for hotkeys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This breaks down in the face of notebooks often having more key mappings than keys (even more so than regular keyboards) and software actually needing combinations like Alt-F2.
Granted, we could add a seventh row of keys but that would require all keys to be smaller.
We could also leave things like screen and keyboard brightness and volume controls off the keyboard but since most people like being able to adjust those thing without having to navigate some control panel you're looking at a tough sale.
You could add those things as a separate set of very small buttons but since most decent notebooks already divde all available space between the keyboard, the trackpad and the hand rests it's unlikely that you can find a proper space without having to make other sacrifices.
What I'd like to see would be arbitrary Fn mapping support from OSes.
Since most keys don't have an Fn binding you can map then to things useful to you.
Fn-[number] could switch between network configurations or power saving modes; Fn-V could launch VMWare etc.
I am aware that you can do the same just fine with CTRL and ALT but their combinations have the disadvantage that they're often already used by the OS or programs for hotkeys.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765162</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767044</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263494220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The article includes a <a href="http://backoffice.ajb.com.au//images/news/Lenovo-X100e-keys.jpg" title="ajb.com.au" rel="nofollow">picture of the new keyboard</a> [ajb.com.au], showing that PrtSc is now combined with the Insert key, so it's really only SysRq which has gone. PrtSc is printed blue on the key, so if I understand the article correctly, it will be PrtSc on it's own and Insert when combined with Fn.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The article includes a picture of the new keyboard [ ajb.com.au ] , showing that PrtSc is now combined with the Insert key , so it 's really only SysRq which has gone .
PrtSc is printed blue on the key , so if I understand the article correctly , it will be PrtSc on it 's own and Insert when combined with Fn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article includes a picture of the new keyboard [ajb.com.au], showing that PrtSc is now combined with the Insert key, so it's really only SysRq which has gone.
PrtSc is printed blue on the key, so if I understand the article correctly, it will be PrtSc on it's own and Insert when combined with Fn.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764240</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766526</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>Masterofpsi</author>
	<datestamp>1263492480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Incidentally, my "Prnt Scrn" key doesn't say "SysReq," but as I just learned, it still works.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Incidentally , my " Prnt Scrn " key does n't say " SysReq , " but as I just learned , it still works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Incidentally, my "Prnt Scrn" key doesn't say "SysReq," but as I just learned, it still works.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764240</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767186</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>silent\_artichoke</author>
	<datestamp>1263494820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not just your wife. About half of the people in the student computer lab where I used to work did that. Another common thing that did not make sense was to type in www.google.com then search for www.hotmail.com (or whatever) then click on the link. It never occurred to them to just enter that in the first place.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not just your wife .
About half of the people in the student computer lab where I used to work did that .
Another common thing that did not make sense was to type in www.google.com then search for www.hotmail.com ( or whatever ) then click on the link .
It never occurred to them to just enter that in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not just your wife.
About half of the people in the student computer lab where I used to work did that.
Another common thing that did not make sense was to type in www.google.com then search for www.hotmail.com (or whatever) then click on the link.
It never occurred to them to just enter that in the first place.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764806</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30769990</id>
	<title>Re:Never used it, but the function keys....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263460860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This seems like a much bigger issue than the SysRq key. Having to hold the Fn key to target my party members in WoW is not going to be fun. Tons of games use the function keys for actual, useful purposes. And if you claim you don't play games on your laptop, either you're just afraid of your IT department or you're lying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This seems like a much bigger issue than the SysRq key .
Having to hold the Fn key to target my party members in WoW is not going to be fun .
Tons of games use the function keys for actual , useful purposes .
And if you claim you do n't play games on your laptop , either you 're just afraid of your IT department or you 're lying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This seems like a much bigger issue than the SysRq key.
Having to hold the Fn key to target my party members in WoW is not going to be fun.
Tons of games use the function keys for actual, useful purposes.
And if you claim you don't play games on your laptop, either you're just afraid of your IT department or you're lying.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766428</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764672</id>
	<title>Windows buttons</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263486540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get rid of the damned windows buttons first!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get rid of the damned windows buttons first !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get rid of the damned windows buttons first!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30776610</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263550860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Real men swap their caps lock and function keys...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Real men swap their caps lock and function keys.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Real men swap their caps lock and function keys...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764826</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764812</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of unnecessary one and zero keys</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263487020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>....and get off my lawn!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>....and get off my lawn !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>....and get off my lawn!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764180</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766468</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>apoc.famine</author>
	<datestamp>1263492240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agreed. On all  my systems the Caps Lock key resides in the desk drawer. While it leaves a gaping hole, filled with crumbs and filth, it's far better than having it there. Yeah, I could remap it, but a bent paperclip fixes it in far less time, with far less effort.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed .
On all my systems the Caps Lock key resides in the desk drawer .
While it leaves a gaping hole , filled with crumbs and filth , it 's far better than having it there .
Yeah , I could remap it , but a bent paperclip fixes it in far less time , with far less effort .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed.
On all  my systems the Caps Lock key resides in the desk drawer.
While it leaves a gaping hole, filled with crumbs and filth, it's far better than having it there.
Yeah, I could remap it, but a bent paperclip fixes it in far less time, with far less effort.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764234</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30770306</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>WeirdJohn</author>
	<datestamp>1263462000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Being disabled, I find the caps-lock key very handy.  My right hand does not work properly, and typing things like "B.M. Forester" is much easier than holding down the shift key.  I have never used AOL.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Being disabled , I find the caps-lock key very handy .
My right hand does not work properly , and typing things like " B.M .
Forester " is much easier than holding down the shift key .
I have never used AOL .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being disabled, I find the caps-lock key very handy.
My right hand does not work properly, and typing things like "B.M.
Forester" is much easier than holding down the shift key.
I have never used AOL.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764234</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766338</id>
	<title>Re:This is not your father's Thinkpad Lenevo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263491820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In engineering we always use caps.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In engineering we always use caps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In engineering we always use caps.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764546</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765184</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>CrackerJackz</author>
	<datestamp>1263488100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not sure which distro's this is turned on by default on, but you'll have to echo a 1 to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/proc/sys/kernel/sysrq before you can try this out<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>alt + sysrq + o is 'Off' for most laptops<br>+h should give you help options as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure which distro 's this is turned on by default on , but you 'll have to echo a 1 to /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq before you can try this out : ) alt + sysrq + o is 'Off ' for most laptops + h should give you help options as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure which distro's this is turned on by default on, but you'll have to echo a 1 to /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq before you can try this out :)alt + sysrq + o is 'Off' for most laptops+h should give you help options as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764218</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765976</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>ahow628</author>
	<datestamp>1263490680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've pried the Fn key off of every Lenovo I've ever owned. I work in spreadsheets constantly so Ctrl+arrow, Ctrl+C, and Ctrl+V are my top three short cuts to use. I tried and tried to find a way to remap, but in the end, popping the key off completely worked best.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've pried the Fn key off of every Lenovo I 've ever owned .
I work in spreadsheets constantly so Ctrl + arrow , Ctrl + C , and Ctrl + V are my top three short cuts to use .
I tried and tried to find a way to remap , but in the end , popping the key off completely worked best .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've pried the Fn key off of every Lenovo I've ever owned.
I work in spreadsheets constantly so Ctrl+arrow, Ctrl+C, and Ctrl+V are my top three short cuts to use.
I tried and tried to find a way to remap, but in the end, popping the key off completely worked best.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766320</id>
	<title>Lenovo or IBM ?</title>
	<author>Antiocheian</author>
	<datestamp>1263491760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We already know that Lenovo are something of the fastidious scientists when it comes to keyboard design.</p></div><p>Do we ?</p><p>The only noteable addition Lenovo did to the great Thinkpad keyboard layout was the reinsertion of the "Windows" and "Context Menu" keys which IBM had removed to the satisfaction of a huge number of users worldwide.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We already know that Lenovo are something of the fastidious scientists when it comes to keyboard design.Do we ? The only noteable addition Lenovo did to the great Thinkpad keyboard layout was the reinsertion of the " Windows " and " Context Menu " keys which IBM had removed to the satisfaction of a huge number of users worldwide .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We already know that Lenovo are something of the fastidious scientists when it comes to keyboard design.Do we ?The only noteable addition Lenovo did to the great Thinkpad keyboard layout was the reinsertion of the "Windows" and "Context Menu" keys which IBM had removed to the satisfaction of a huge number of users worldwide.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767060</id>
	<title>Not just Lenovo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263494280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lenovo/IBM not the only one removing keys. My new(ish) Dell E6500 has ne break key. I work mostly on Cisco equipment and often have to do password a recovery. With no break key to stop the boot secuence I have had to use windows OSK to send the break. It does however still have SysRq on F10.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lenovo/IBM not the only one removing keys .
My new ( ish ) Dell E6500 has ne break key .
I work mostly on Cisco equipment and often have to do password a recovery .
With no break key to stop the boot secuence I have had to use windows OSK to send the break .
It does however still have SysRq on F10 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lenovo/IBM not the only one removing keys.
My new(ish) Dell E6500 has ne break key.
I work mostly on Cisco equipment and often have to do password a recovery.
With no break key to stop the boot secuence I have had to use windows OSK to send the break.
It does however still have SysRq on F10.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765868</id>
	<title>Re:From having read TFA...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263490380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple has a preference so you can toggle the behavior.  I have mine set you have to press fn+f* to use the system controls and f* is used for program shortcuts etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple has a preference so you can toggle the behavior .
I have mine set you have to press fn + f * to use the system controls and f * is used for program shortcuts etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple has a preference so you can toggle the behavior.
I have mine set you have to press fn+f* to use the system controls and f* is used for program shortcuts etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765716</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>Drethon</author>
	<datestamp>1263489900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Agreed, I don't know how many times I go for Ctrl-F4 on my Lenovo and put the damn thing to sleep...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed , I do n't know how many times I go for Ctrl-F4 on my Lenovo and put the damn thing to sleep.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed, I don't know how many times I go for Ctrl-F4 on my Lenovo and put the damn thing to sleep...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764534</id>
	<title>Re:They're remapping something else</title>
	<author>atomicdoggy</author>
	<datestamp>1263486180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, but I did notice how it copies my screen to the clipboard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , but I did notice how it copies my screen to the clipboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, but I did notice how it copies my screen to the clipboard.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765682</id>
	<title>Re:While they're at it....</title>
	<author>Xtravar</author>
	<datestamp>1263489780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even my QAer at work pulled out his Caps Lock key so he wouldn't accidentally hit it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even my QAer at work pulled out his Caps Lock key so he would n't accidentally hit it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even my QAer at work pulled out his Caps Lock key so he wouldn't accidentally hit it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30769874</id>
	<title>Re:This is not your father's Thinkpad Lenevo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263460440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They would do better to remove the CAPS LOCK key, which is more bulky and - as far as I know - useful only to morons who don't know how to keep from SHOUTING on the internet.  If CAPS LOCK functionality is really needed, they could just allow holding the Shift key for a period longer than t(x).  The SysRq key is both the same key as "Print Screen" which is often used <b> <i>and</i> </b>  useful, and is a major component of debugging for the most used operating system in the server market (Linux). (Bear in mind that the kernel that runs on those servers gets <b> <i>developed</i> </b>  on laptops and desktop workstations, not servers.)</p><p>As a Linux developer this move screams to me: <i>"HEY!  WE'RE LENEVO, AND NOW THAT WE HAVE BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO THE THINKPAD NAME FROM IBM, WE ARE SHOUTING HOW CLUELESS WE ARE BECOMING FROM THE VIRTUAL ROOFTOPS".</i></p><p><i>This is <b> <i>NOT</i> </b> </i> their father's Thinkpad.</p></div><p>CAPS LOCK is what I use as the left Ctrl-key. The orignal Left Ctrl is used to cycle between keyboard layouts, I have occasionly mapped the Caps-Lock diod to be on when I use a keyboard layout that isn't my most used one.</p><p>Please don't remove Caps-Lock or the Caps-lock diod. They are very useful.</p><p>And also, think of the Cobol and Fortran programmers. There are compilers that don't accept anything but caps.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They would do better to remove the CAPS LOCK key , which is more bulky and - as far as I know - useful only to morons who do n't know how to keep from SHOUTING on the internet .
If CAPS LOCK functionality is really needed , they could just allow holding the Shift key for a period longer than t ( x ) .
The SysRq key is both the same key as " Print Screen " which is often used and useful , and is a major component of debugging for the most used operating system in the server market ( Linux ) .
( Bear in mind that the kernel that runs on those servers gets developed on laptops and desktop workstations , not servers .
) As a Linux developer this move screams to me : " HEY !
WE 'RE LENEVO , AND NOW THAT WE HAVE BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO THE THINKPAD NAME FROM IBM , WE ARE SHOUTING HOW CLUELESS WE ARE BECOMING FROM THE VIRTUAL ROOFTOPS " .This is NOT their father 's Thinkpad.CAPS LOCK is what I use as the left Ctrl-key .
The orignal Left Ctrl is used to cycle between keyboard layouts , I have occasionly mapped the Caps-Lock diod to be on when I use a keyboard layout that is n't my most used one.Please do n't remove Caps-Lock or the Caps-lock diod .
They are very useful.And also , think of the Cobol and Fortran programmers .
There are compilers that do n't accept anything but caps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They would do better to remove the CAPS LOCK key, which is more bulky and - as far as I know - useful only to morons who don't know how to keep from SHOUTING on the internet.
If CAPS LOCK functionality is really needed, they could just allow holding the Shift key for a period longer than t(x).
The SysRq key is both the same key as "Print Screen" which is often used  and   useful, and is a major component of debugging for the most used operating system in the server market (Linux).
(Bear in mind that the kernel that runs on those servers gets  developed   on laptops and desktop workstations, not servers.
)As a Linux developer this move screams to me: "HEY!
WE'RE LENEVO, AND NOW THAT WE HAVE BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO THE THINKPAD NAME FROM IBM, WE ARE SHOUTING HOW CLUELESS WE ARE BECOMING FROM THE VIRTUAL ROOFTOPS".This is  NOT   their father's Thinkpad.CAPS LOCK is what I use as the left Ctrl-key.
The orignal Left Ctrl is used to cycle between keyboard layouts, I have occasionly mapped the Caps-Lock diod to be on when I use a keyboard layout that isn't my most used one.Please don't remove Caps-Lock or the Caps-lock diod.
They are very useful.And also, think of the Cobol and Fortran programmers.
There are compilers that don't accept anything but caps.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764476</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263486000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ditto.  Alt+PrtScn is your current-dialog-capturing-friend!</p><p>Although, it still amazes me the amount of people who still install 'freeware' utilities to take screengrabs of dialogs, when Windows has had that functionality built in for many versions...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and I kid you not, I did once have this conversation:</p><p>User: I need Photoshop CS2 installed, here's my Cost-Code.<br>Me: Why?<br>User: I write documentation that needs screenshots.<br>Me: You know you can screengrab via windows and paste directly into Word?<br>User: I don't care, Bob has Photoshop, and I want a copy as well.<br>Me: *sigh* Ok, I'll buy a copy and charge your dept...</p><p>-Jar</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ditto .
Alt + PrtScn is your current-dialog-capturing-friend ! Although , it still amazes me the amount of people who still install 'freeware ' utilities to take screengrabs of dialogs , when Windows has had that functionality built in for many versions... ... and I kid you not , I did once have this conversation : User : I need Photoshop CS2 installed , here 's my Cost-Code.Me : Why ? User : I write documentation that needs screenshots.Me : You know you can screengrab via windows and paste directly into Word ? User : I do n't care , Bob has Photoshop , and I want a copy as well.Me : * sigh * Ok , I 'll buy a copy and charge your dept...-Jar</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ditto.
Alt+PrtScn is your current-dialog-capturing-friend!Although, it still amazes me the amount of people who still install 'freeware' utilities to take screengrabs of dialogs, when Windows has had that functionality built in for many versions... ... and I kid you not, I did once have this conversation:User: I need Photoshop CS2 installed, here's my Cost-Code.Me: Why?User: I write documentation that needs screenshots.Me: You know you can screengrab via windows and paste directly into Word?User: I don't care, Bob has Photoshop, and I want a copy as well.Me: *sigh* Ok, I'll buy a copy and charge your dept...-Jar</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765364</id>
	<title>Re:It's there to tell the OS</title>
	<author>snspdaarf</author>
	<datestamp>1263488580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This key is mandated  to mean nothing, therefore it can mean anything, or indeed, everything.</p></div><p>So, is this Philosophy, or Quantum Theory?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This key is mandated to mean nothing , therefore it can mean anything , or indeed , everything.So , is this Philosophy , or Quantum Theory ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This key is mandated  to mean nothing, therefore it can mean anything, or indeed, everything.So, is this Philosophy, or Quantum Theory?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765640</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>flyingfsck</author>
	<datestamp>1263489660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not to mention Pause, Break, Scroll Lock and F12.  Nothing ever uses F12.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention Pause , Break , Scroll Lock and F12 .
Nothing ever uses F12 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention Pause, Break, Scroll Lock and F12.
Nothing ever uses F12.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766986</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>mariushm</author>
	<datestamp>1263494040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just use Irfanview, it has selection to copy the whole screen, all desktops (if you have several monitors), the current window, only the client area of the window (no title bar and menus).. and you can set it to do automatically after a number of seconds or when pressing a key combo... i have it set at Ctrl+F11.<br>It also saves automatically to whatever image format you want (i use png) and you can set it to automatically append the time when the screenshot was made to the file name</p><p>It's overall much easier, especially when you work with websites that clear the clipboard or other programs with silly copy protections or DRM'ed books (pdf files for example, either remove the javascript or brute force the password if needed or just do print screens and then use OCR to retrieve content)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just use Irfanview , it has selection to copy the whole screen , all desktops ( if you have several monitors ) , the current window , only the client area of the window ( no title bar and menus ) .. and you can set it to do automatically after a number of seconds or when pressing a key combo... i have it set at Ctrl + F11.It also saves automatically to whatever image format you want ( i use png ) and you can set it to automatically append the time when the screenshot was made to the file nameIt 's overall much easier , especially when you work with websites that clear the clipboard or other programs with silly copy protections or DRM'ed books ( pdf files for example , either remove the javascript or brute force the password if needed or just do print screens and then use OCR to retrieve content )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just use Irfanview, it has selection to copy the whole screen, all desktops (if you have several monitors), the current window, only the client area of the window (no title bar and menus).. and you can set it to do automatically after a number of seconds or when pressing a key combo... i have it set at Ctrl+F11.It also saves automatically to whatever image format you want (i use png) and you can set it to automatically append the time when the screenshot was made to the file nameIt's overall much easier, especially when you work with websites that clear the clipboard or other programs with silly copy protections or DRM'ed books (pdf files for example, either remove the javascript or brute force the password if needed or just do print screens and then use OCR to retrieve content)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767004</id>
	<title>Re:Mainframes</title>
	<author>pyster</author>
	<datestamp>1263494100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Chances are if you are connecting to a 3270 using your pc/laptop you are doing so via Reflections or some other terminal software that will allow you to redefine a key, create a macro, or has a gui button. <br> <br>I own a portable IBM 3270 terminal with an black on grey LCD. I never used it to connect to an 3270 (I actually used desktop terminal for that) but I did have it on my desk and would use it to interface with anything with a serial or craft port... Just to be geeky.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Chances are if you are connecting to a 3270 using your pc/laptop you are doing so via Reflections or some other terminal software that will allow you to redefine a key , create a macro , or has a gui button .
I own a portable IBM 3270 terminal with an black on grey LCD .
I never used it to connect to an 3270 ( I actually used desktop terminal for that ) but I did have it on my desk and would use it to interface with anything with a serial or craft port... Just to be geeky .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Chances are if you are connecting to a 3270 using your pc/laptop you are doing so via Reflections or some other terminal software that will allow you to redefine a key, create a macro, or has a gui button.
I own a portable IBM 3270 terminal with an black on grey LCD.
I never used it to connect to an 3270 (I actually used desktop terminal for that) but I did have it on my desk and would use it to interface with anything with a serial or craft port... Just to be geeky.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30774582</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of unnecessary one and zero keys</title>
	<author>Ritchie70</author>
	<datestamp>1263483780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a simple reason why you had to use a lowercase "L" instead of a 1.</p><p>I learned to type on a combination of IBM Selectrics and manual typewriters in roughly 1985.</p><p>The manual typewriters didn't have a "1" key. This was very common.</p><p>The manual typewriters didn't have an exclamation mark, either. You had to "build" one using an apostrophe, backspace and period.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a simple reason why you had to use a lowercase " L " instead of a 1.I learned to type on a combination of IBM Selectrics and manual typewriters in roughly 1985.The manual typewriters did n't have a " 1 " key .
This was very common.The manual typewriters did n't have an exclamation mark , either .
You had to " build " one using an apostrophe , backspace and period .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a simple reason why you had to use a lowercase "L" instead of a 1.I learned to type on a combination of IBM Selectrics and manual typewriters in roughly 1985.The manual typewriters didn't have a "1" key.
This was very common.The manual typewriters didn't have an exclamation mark, either.
You had to "build" one using an apostrophe, backspace and period.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764502</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263486060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On laptop keyboards, you usually need to hold down [Fn] in order to use Print Screen. SysRq is bound to another key+[Fn].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On laptop keyboards , you usually need to hold down [ Fn ] in order to use Print Screen .
SysRq is bound to another key + [ Fn ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On laptop keyboards, you usually need to hold down [Fn] in order to use Print Screen.
SysRq is bound to another key+[Fn].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764820</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Antony-Kyre</author>
	<datestamp>1263487020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If cats can play pianos, I'm sure a cat can learn to press those keys.</p><p>(Yes, I know it's a "trick" done by a human, with the cat.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If cats can play pianos , I 'm sure a cat can learn to press those keys .
( Yes , I know it 's a " trick " done by a human , with the cat .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If cats can play pianos, I'm sure a cat can learn to press those keys.
(Yes, I know it's a "trick" done by a human, with the cat.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765674</id>
	<title>SysRq-K is the Linux Secure Attention Key (SAK)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263489780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm looking down at my vanilla Logitech keyboard and I don't see any key with "SysRq" on it. So I guess I don't need one.</p></div><p>
&nbsp; </p><p><b>SysRq-K</b> is the Linux <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure\_attention\_key" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow"> <b>secure attention key</b> (<b>SAK</b>)</a> [wikipedia.org], like Ctrl-Alt-Del on Windows.</p><p>If you don't use it, any user on a shared or momentarily unattended computer can run a program to draw a prompt and pretend to be at the OS login or unlock screen, waiting for you to enter your password.  Without a key sequence that only the OS can catch, you have no defense against such spoofing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm looking down at my vanilla Logitech keyboard and I do n't see any key with " SysRq " on it .
So I guess I do n't need one .
  SysRq-K is the Linux secure attention key ( SAK ) [ wikipedia.org ] , like Ctrl-Alt-Del on Windows.If you do n't use it , any user on a shared or momentarily unattended computer can run a program to draw a prompt and pretend to be at the OS login or unlock screen , waiting for you to enter your password .
Without a key sequence that only the OS can catch , you have no defense against such spoofing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm looking down at my vanilla Logitech keyboard and I don't see any key with "SysRq" on it.
So I guess I don't need one.
  SysRq-K is the Linux  secure attention key (SAK) [wikipedia.org], like Ctrl-Alt-Del on Windows.If you don't use it, any user on a shared or momentarily unattended computer can run a program to draw a prompt and pretend to be at the OS login or unlock screen, waiting for you to enter your password.
Without a key sequence that only the OS can catch, you have no defense against such spoofing.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766396</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>CortoMaltese</author>
	<datestamp>1263492000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I have physically removed the CapsLock, NumLock and Ins keys from my keyboard at both home and work.</p></div><p>Uh, why? My caps lock key is another ctrl, makes emacs use a bit friendlier for my left hand little finger. You could map the other keys to your liking as well. No need to break your keyboard.
</p><p>
Regarding TFA, it makes me wonder when they'll start removing other keys that are not useful for an average Windows/Office/Outlook user. A middle aged computer scientist using Emacs is becoming an endangered species I guess.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have physically removed the CapsLock , NumLock and Ins keys from my keyboard at both home and work.Uh , why ?
My caps lock key is another ctrl , makes emacs use a bit friendlier for my left hand little finger .
You could map the other keys to your liking as well .
No need to break your keyboard .
Regarding TFA , it makes me wonder when they 'll start removing other keys that are not useful for an average Windows/Office/Outlook user .
A middle aged computer scientist using Emacs is becoming an endangered species I guess .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have physically removed the CapsLock, NumLock and Ins keys from my keyboard at both home and work.Uh, why?
My caps lock key is another ctrl, makes emacs use a bit friendlier for my left hand little finger.
You could map the other keys to your liking as well.
No need to break your keyboard.
Regarding TFA, it makes me wonder when they'll start removing other keys that are not useful for an average Windows/Office/Outlook user.
A middle aged computer scientist using Emacs is becoming an endangered species I guess.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764958</id>
	<title>Re:From having read TFA...</title>
	<author>Aim Here</author>
	<datestamp>1263487440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"I know you can use the Scroll Lock key in conjunction with Excel, but I'm not sure anyone else ever does. "</p></div></blockquote><p>I use it all the time, to get out of that irritating Scroll lock mode caused by accientally hitting it the first time round.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I know you can use the Scroll Lock key in conjunction with Excel , but I 'm not sure anyone else ever does .
" I use it all the time , to get out of that irritating Scroll lock mode caused by accientally hitting it the first time round .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I know you can use the Scroll Lock key in conjunction with Excel, but I'm not sure anyone else ever does.
"I use it all the time, to get out of that irritating Scroll lock mode caused by accientally hitting it the first time round.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30781792</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>Zepalesque</author>
	<datestamp>1263583920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use Emacs.</p><p>They can have my ctrl key when they pry it off my cold, numb pinky.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Emacs.They can have my ctrl key when they pry it off my cold , numb pinky .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Emacs.They can have my ctrl key when they pry it off my cold, numb pinky.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764492</id>
	<title>Re:Debug key</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263486060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh heck, I use the SysRq key on an almost daily basis whenever I screw up a kernel compile (and that's often).  At least on my keyboards, it's on the same key as PrntScrn.  Looking at my keyboard, there's nothing that I don't use on a fairly regular basis:Num Lk - *almost* always on when using a laptop. Almost always off when using a regular keyboard.  Pause/Break I've mapped to bring up my task manager.  I've also noticed that the paint is actually wearing off the hjkl keys on one keyboard (too much nethack...er vi).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh heck , I use the SysRq key on an almost daily basis whenever I screw up a kernel compile ( and that 's often ) .
At least on my keyboards , it 's on the same key as PrntScrn .
Looking at my keyboard , there 's nothing that I do n't use on a fairly regular basis : Num Lk - * almost * always on when using a laptop .
Almost always off when using a regular keyboard .
Pause/Break I 've mapped to bring up my task manager .
I 've also noticed that the paint is actually wearing off the hjkl keys on one keyboard ( too much nethack...er vi ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh heck, I use the SysRq key on an almost daily basis whenever I screw up a kernel compile (and that's often).
At least on my keyboards, it's on the same key as PrntScrn.
Looking at my keyboard, there's nothing that I don't use on a fairly regular basis:Num Lk - *almost* always on when using a laptop.
Almost always off when using a regular keyboard.
Pause/Break I've mapped to bring up my task manager.
I've also noticed that the paint is actually wearing off the hjkl keys on one keyboard (too much nethack...er vi).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766260</id>
	<title>Yes...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263491640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's much easier than using some shortcut for screen grabs, and used often enough.  Scroll Lock, and the entire number pad, on the other hand, get rid of those.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's much easier than using some shortcut for screen grabs , and used often enough .
Scroll Lock , and the entire number pad , on the other hand , get rid of those .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's much easier than using some shortcut for screen grabs, and used often enough.
Scroll Lock, and the entire number pad, on the other hand, get rid of those.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30798240</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>RichiH</author>
	<datestamp>1263743280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Read their blog. On the new Thinkpads, you can re-map Fn and Ctrl in the BIOS each other's places.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Read their blog .
On the new Thinkpads , you can re-map Fn and Ctrl in the BIOS each other 's places .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Read their blog.
On the new Thinkpads, you can re-map Fn and Ctrl in the BIOS each other's places.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30776152</id>
	<title>painstacking research</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263588060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; painstaking research to count exactly how many times users press the Delete and Escape keys</p><p>reseach that obviously didn't include any vi(m) users</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; painstaking research to count exactly how many times users press the Delete and Escape keysreseach that obviously did n't include any vi ( m ) users</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; painstaking research to count exactly how many times users press the Delete and Escape keysreseach that obviously didn't include any vi(m) users</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30770390</id>
	<title>SysRq goes back to IBM 360 Mainframe (at least)</title>
	<author>humdinger70</author>
	<datestamp>1263462360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The SysReq key goes back to the IBM System/360 mainframe. It didn't have a CRT as the operator console, it had a modified IBM selectric typewriter-type (with the patented ball type element) as the operator console. It was a model 1052.</p><p>Because of the slow print speed (less than 15 characters per second), the mainframe OS could spew out a lot of messages (some cryptic in nature to someone not familiar with the system) on paper. In order to prevent confusion, the keyboard was locked by default and you had to press the SysReq key on the keyboard and wait for the system to unlock the keyboard (and that might take a bit) to allow the operator to enter commands.</p><p>I actually saw one in use at a PPOE, on an IBM System 360/50. You just had to live with it.</p><p>The next generation IBM System 370 systems initially came with the same type of console, but they later introduced the much faster 3215 console keyboard/printer, which I think used a dot-matrix type print element. Still had to use the SysReq key to be allowed to enter commands.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The SysReq key goes back to the IBM System/360 mainframe .
It did n't have a CRT as the operator console , it had a modified IBM selectric typewriter-type ( with the patented ball type element ) as the operator console .
It was a model 1052.Because of the slow print speed ( less than 15 characters per second ) , the mainframe OS could spew out a lot of messages ( some cryptic in nature to someone not familiar with the system ) on paper .
In order to prevent confusion , the keyboard was locked by default and you had to press the SysReq key on the keyboard and wait for the system to unlock the keyboard ( and that might take a bit ) to allow the operator to enter commands.I actually saw one in use at a PPOE , on an IBM System 360/50 .
You just had to live with it.The next generation IBM System 370 systems initially came with the same type of console , but they later introduced the much faster 3215 console keyboard/printer , which I think used a dot-matrix type print element .
Still had to use the SysReq key to be allowed to enter commands .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The SysReq key goes back to the IBM System/360 mainframe.
It didn't have a CRT as the operator console, it had a modified IBM selectric typewriter-type (with the patented ball type element) as the operator console.
It was a model 1052.Because of the slow print speed (less than 15 characters per second), the mainframe OS could spew out a lot of messages (some cryptic in nature to someone not familiar with the system) on paper.
In order to prevent confusion, the keyboard was locked by default and you had to press the SysReq key on the keyboard and wait for the system to unlock the keyboard (and that might take a bit) to allow the operator to enter commands.I actually saw one in use at a PPOE, on an IBM System 360/50.
You just had to live with it.The next generation IBM System 370 systems initially came with the same type of console, but they later introduced the much faster 3215 console keyboard/printer, which I think used a dot-matrix type print element.
Still had to use the SysReq key to be allowed to enter commands.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767620</id>
	<title>Re:Debug key</title>
	<author>rduke15</author>
	<datestamp>1263496080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On my Thinkpad with Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04, the key seems unusable. Whatever combination I try, I only get the "Save Screenshot" dialog.</p><p>It is on the same key as "PrtScr", written in blue, so theoretically I should press the blue Fn key and PrtScr to get SysReq.</p><p>However, whether I press PrtScr, Fn-PrtScr, Alt-PrtScr or Fn-Alt-PrtScr, all I can do is save a screenshot. (Which is useful, but shouldn't need so many different key combinations for the same effect). So for me, I do have the SysReq key, but apparently no way to use it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On my Thinkpad with Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 , the key seems unusable .
Whatever combination I try , I only get the " Save Screenshot " dialog.It is on the same key as " PrtScr " , written in blue , so theoretically I should press the blue Fn key and PrtScr to get SysReq.However , whether I press PrtScr , Fn-PrtScr , Alt-PrtScr or Fn-Alt-PrtScr , all I can do is save a screenshot .
( Which is useful , but should n't need so many different key combinations for the same effect ) .
So for me , I do have the SysReq key , but apparently no way to use it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On my Thinkpad with Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04, the key seems unusable.
Whatever combination I try, I only get the "Save Screenshot" dialog.It is on the same key as "PrtScr", written in blue, so theoretically I should press the blue Fn key and PrtScr to get SysReq.However, whether I press PrtScr, Fn-PrtScr, Alt-PrtScr or Fn-Alt-PrtScr, all I can do is save a screenshot.
(Which is useful, but shouldn't need so many different key combinations for the same effect).
So for me, I do have the SysReq key, but apparently no way to use it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30768934</id>
	<title>Re:Debug key</title>
	<author>Zoxed</author>
	<datestamp>1263500280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; If you are a kernel developer, then you can just make your kernel intercept some other key combination.</p><p>I am not and sysrq or kernel expert but: AFAIK the kernel does not get the sysrq directly. The request goes straight to the BIOS, and then, on a configured Linux kernel, comes back up to a kernel routine. So if the usual X and/or kernel k/b handler lock up you can still have a key that reacts. I think.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; If you are a kernel developer , then you can just make your kernel intercept some other key combination.I am not and sysrq or kernel expert but : AFAIK the kernel does not get the sysrq directly .
The request goes straight to the BIOS , and then , on a configured Linux kernel , comes back up to a kernel routine .
So if the usual X and/or kernel k/b handler lock up you can still have a key that reacts .
I think .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; If you are a kernel developer, then you can just make your kernel intercept some other key combination.I am not and sysrq or kernel expert but: AFAIK the kernel does not get the sysrq directly.
The request goes straight to the BIOS, and then, on a configured Linux kernel, comes back up to a kernel routine.
So if the usual X and/or kernel k/b handler lock up you can still have a key that reacts.
I think.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766718</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263493140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Lenovo had the Fn key first, with the CTRL key to the right, meaning that when you go to hit CTRL-, I hit Fn instead.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>At least my Thinkpad X301 has the option to swap CTRL and Fn in BIOS, so if you're consistently hitting Fn as opposed to somewhere in between the two, you're in luck!</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Several years ago, for work, I got a Compaq Evo N620c (which I still use for work). While the Fn and CTRL keys are in the wrong place, at least they have the forethought to allow you to swap them in the BIOS, which I naturally did.</p></div><p>...and now that I think of it, my LG R400 had that too, even with CTRL in the 'standard' location, so it seems to be quite a standard feature.</p></div></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lenovo had the Fn key first , with the CTRL key to the right , meaning that when you go to hit CTRL- , I hit Fn instead.At least my Thinkpad X301 has the option to swap CTRL and Fn in BIOS , so if you 're consistently hitting Fn as opposed to somewhere in between the two , you 're in luck ! Several years ago , for work , I got a Compaq Evo N620c ( which I still use for work ) .
While the Fn and CTRL keys are in the wrong place , at least they have the forethought to allow you to swap them in the BIOS , which I naturally did....and now that I think of it , my LG R400 had that too , even with CTRL in the 'standard ' location , so it seems to be quite a standard feature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lenovo had the Fn key first, with the CTRL key to the right, meaning that when you go to hit CTRL-, I hit Fn instead.At least my Thinkpad X301 has the option to swap CTRL and Fn in BIOS, so if you're consistently hitting Fn as opposed to somewhere in between the two, you're in luck!Several years ago, for work, I got a Compaq Evo N620c (which I still use for work).
While the Fn and CTRL keys are in the wrong place, at least they have the forethought to allow you to swap them in the BIOS, which I naturally did....and now that I think of it, my LG R400 had that too, even with CTRL in the 'standard' location, so it seems to be quite a standard feature.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766764</id>
	<title>Re:This is not your father's Thinkpad Lenevo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263493260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are things that work with caps lock on and shift pressed, for example Hebrew vowels, or several European accented characters.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are things that work with caps lock on and shift pressed , for example Hebrew vowels , or several European accented characters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are things that work with caps lock on and shift pressed, for example Hebrew vowels, or several European accented characters.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30774682</id>
	<title>Linux</title>
	<author>Baloo Uriza</author>
	<datestamp>1263484680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What about the ever-growing Linux segment?  Magic System Request has saved my ass countless times now.  System Request is the key you hope you never need but are glad it's there when you do.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about the ever-growing Linux segment ?
Magic System Request has saved my ass countless times now .
System Request is the key you hope you never need but are glad it 's there when you do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about the ever-growing Linux segment?
Magic System Request has saved my ass countless times now.
System Request is the key you hope you never need but are glad it's there when you do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30769164</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of the Fn key</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1263500940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>God damn I hate those Fn keys.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>God damn I hate those Fn keys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>God damn I hate those Fn keys.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764996</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>0racle</author>
	<datestamp>1263487560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow, thank you for that. Writing that one down now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , thank you for that .
Writing that one down now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, thank you for that.
Writing that one down now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766096</id>
	<title>like the subject</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263491100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All your keys are belong to me now mwah ha ha haaaaaaa!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All your keys are belong to me now mwah ha ha haaaaaaa !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All your keys are belong to me now mwah ha ha haaaaaaa!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764354</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Jaruzel</author>
	<datestamp>1263485640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not a Linux User...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.but how on earth do you press all of those keys down together?!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not a Linux User... .but how on earth do you press all of those keys down together ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not a Linux User... .but how on earth do you press all of those keys down together?
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764218</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767574</id>
	<title>Re:It's there to tell the OS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263495960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and finally... one key to rule them all...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and finally... one key to rule them all.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and finally... one key to rule them all...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764464</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765892</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>Saint Gerbil</author>
	<datestamp>1263490440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>as opposed to "scroll lock" at least I know people who have used Caps and Num Lock.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>as opposed to " scroll lock " at least I know people who have used Caps and Num Lock .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as opposed to "scroll lock" at least I know people who have used Caps and Num Lock.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764870</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263487200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The only people I know who use the Caps Lock Key are AOLers.  Anyone who needs a Caps Lock Key for legitimate technical reasons can buy a specialized keyboard for that purpose. That's no reason for the key to be inflicted on the rest of us.</p></div><p>Of course the thought that Caps Lock isn't useful assumes a QWERTY keyboard used for typing English. Other keyboard configurations, or using a QWERTY keyboard in other configurations (for example for typing in other languages, as I often do, despite being a native anglophone and a long time programmer) can make Caps Lock very helpful.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only people I know who use the Caps Lock Key are AOLers .
Anyone who needs a Caps Lock Key for legitimate technical reasons can buy a specialized keyboard for that purpose .
That 's no reason for the key to be inflicted on the rest of us.Of course the thought that Caps Lock is n't useful assumes a QWERTY keyboard used for typing English .
Other keyboard configurations , or using a QWERTY keyboard in other configurations ( for example for typing in other languages , as I often do , despite being a native anglophone and a long time programmer ) can make Caps Lock very helpful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only people I know who use the Caps Lock Key are AOLers.
Anyone who needs a Caps Lock Key for legitimate technical reasons can buy a specialized keyboard for that purpose.
That's no reason for the key to be inflicted on the rest of us.Of course the thought that Caps Lock isn't useful assumes a QWERTY keyboard used for typing English.
Other keyboard configurations, or using a QWERTY keyboard in other configurations (for example for typing in other languages, as I often do, despite being a native anglophone and a long time programmer) can make Caps Lock very helpful.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764234</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765596</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263489480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let me guess... GeekSquad?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let me guess... GeekSquad ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let me guess... GeekSquad?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764826</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765002</id>
	<title>SysRq needs a corporate sponsor!</title>
	<author>linebackn</author>
	<datestamp>1263487560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What the SysRq key needs is a corporate sponsor! Have that key bring in some cash!</p><p>Possibilities:<br>-Place a trademarked logo on it to raise brand awareness.<br>-Have it perform new special functions or modify functions for that vendors software when pressed.<br>-Have it open a web browser to the sponsors web site when pressed.</p><p>I can think of at least one key that has actually been added because of this kind of thing (cough *Windows* cough)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What the SysRq key needs is a corporate sponsor !
Have that key bring in some cash ! Possibilities : -Place a trademarked logo on it to raise brand awareness.-Have it perform new special functions or modify functions for that vendors software when pressed.-Have it open a web browser to the sponsors web site when pressed.I can think of at least one key that has actually been added because of this kind of thing ( cough * Windows * cough )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the SysRq key needs is a corporate sponsor!
Have that key bring in some cash!Possibilities:-Place a trademarked logo on it to raise brand awareness.-Have it perform new special functions or modify functions for that vendors software when pressed.-Have it open a web browser to the sponsors web site when pressed.I can think of at least one key that has actually been added because of this kind of thing (cough *Windows* cough)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766088</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>sam0737</author>
	<datestamp>1263491040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know no one RTFA, but according to the images there, they merged the Print Screen with the Insert key.  Fn-Insert == Print Screen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know no one RTFA , but according to the images there , they merged the Print Screen with the Insert key .
Fn-Insert = = Print Screen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know no one RTFA, but according to the images there, they merged the Print Screen with the Insert key.
Fn-Insert == Print Screen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764856</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of unnecessary one and zero keys</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263487140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>lOlOlOlOl</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>lOlOlOlOl</tokentext>
<sentencetext>lOlOlOlOl</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764180</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764970</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1263487500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I see your problem. You were approaching the problem from a solution based angle. You have to see it from the e-peen size angle that is usual in offices. If Bob has X, I have to have X too even if I never use it because he has it and if I don't have it, I'm somehow inferior to him.</p><p>If you ever wondered why your boss needed the best laptop of everyone in the office even though he never used it or at least carried it around to show off that he has it, here's your explanation. It's necessary for him to have the bigger dick to feel he's the head gorilla.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see your problem .
You were approaching the problem from a solution based angle .
You have to see it from the e-peen size angle that is usual in offices .
If Bob has X , I have to have X too even if I never use it because he has it and if I do n't have it , I 'm somehow inferior to him.If you ever wondered why your boss needed the best laptop of everyone in the office even though he never used it or at least carried it around to show off that he has it , here 's your explanation .
It 's necessary for him to have the bigger dick to feel he 's the head gorilla .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see your problem.
You were approaching the problem from a solution based angle.
You have to see it from the e-peen size angle that is usual in offices.
If Bob has X, I have to have X too even if I never use it because he has it and if I don't have it, I'm somehow inferior to him.If you ever wondered why your boss needed the best laptop of everyone in the office even though he never used it or at least carried it around to show off that he has it, here's your explanation.
It's necessary for him to have the bigger dick to feel he's the head gorilla.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764476</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766070</id>
	<title>Re:Goodbye to the ThinkPad brand.</title>
	<author>Chalex</author>
	<datestamp>1263490980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The laptops that are getting this change are the Thinkpad Edge models.  They are the low-end consumer level Lenovo laptops, Thinkpads in name only.  They are not the regular Thinkpad T or X or R series models.  The R series is discontinued now anyway.  The regular T and X series are staying as they were (with minor modifications).  You can read more details here: http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=349</p><p>I look forward to the Thinkpad T series being the solid black square tanks that they have always been.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The laptops that are getting this change are the Thinkpad Edge models .
They are the low-end consumer level Lenovo laptops , Thinkpads in name only .
They are not the regular Thinkpad T or X or R series models .
The R series is discontinued now anyway .
The regular T and X series are staying as they were ( with minor modifications ) .
You can read more details here : http : //lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/ ? p = 349I look forward to the Thinkpad T series being the solid black square tanks that they have always been .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The laptops that are getting this change are the Thinkpad Edge models.
They are the low-end consumer level Lenovo laptops, Thinkpads in name only.
They are not the regular Thinkpad T or X or R series models.
The R series is discontinued now anyway.
The regular T and X series are staying as they were (with minor modifications).
You can read more details here: http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=349I look forward to the Thinkpad T series being the solid black square tanks that they have always been.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764398</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765086</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Hylandr</author>
	<datestamp>1263487800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I also tried the M-x-Ctrl-v-p-o-k-l-m-z-w combo. My nose was already being used for the Control key so I used something else I had available and got fired for it. Anyone looking to hire a flexible programmer?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I also tried the M-x-Ctrl-v-p-o-k-l-m-z-w combo .
My nose was already being used for the Control key so I used something else I had available and got fired for it .
Anyone looking to hire a flexible programmer ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also tried the M-x-Ctrl-v-p-o-k-l-m-z-w combo.
My nose was already being used for the Control key so I used something else I had available and got fired for it.
Anyone looking to hire a flexible programmer?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764430</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765152</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of unnecessary one and zero keys</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263487980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You had upppercase letters? Lucky bugger.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You had upppercase letters ?
Lucky bugger .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You had upppercase letters?
Lucky bugger.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764180</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767458</id>
	<title>Caps Lock Key needs a diet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263495660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So maybe while we're on the subject of keyboard keys someone could reduce the size of the CapsLock key and we could put another key in there next to the letter "A".  Possibly something we coule use (maybe keep SysReq) or maybe invent a new letter or something.</p><p>Not sure about anyone else but I don't like laptop keyboards in general because I spent a lot of time having to look at the keyboard for the keys I want (eg where is the contl key? on this one).  If you've ever had to support someone else's laptop you'll know what I mean.  If you use the same laptop every day you get used to the layout, but when you go back and forth to a desktop it's a pain.</p><p>Maybe the laptop companies will invent a standardized space on the laptop for aftermarket keyboards.  You can purchase one for your laptop that has the key layout you like in a color that defines you to your co-workers.  Where are the marketing guys when you need them?<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So maybe while we 're on the subject of keyboard keys someone could reduce the size of the CapsLock key and we could put another key in there next to the letter " A " .
Possibly something we coule use ( maybe keep SysReq ) or maybe invent a new letter or something.Not sure about anyone else but I do n't like laptop keyboards in general because I spent a lot of time having to look at the keyboard for the keys I want ( eg where is the contl key ?
on this one ) .
If you 've ever had to support someone else 's laptop you 'll know what I mean .
If you use the same laptop every day you get used to the layout , but when you go back and forth to a desktop it 's a pain.Maybe the laptop companies will invent a standardized space on the laptop for aftermarket keyboards .
You can purchase one for your laptop that has the key layout you like in a color that defines you to your co-workers .
Where are the marketing guys when you need them ?
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>So maybe while we're on the subject of keyboard keys someone could reduce the size of the CapsLock key and we could put another key in there next to the letter "A".
Possibly something we coule use (maybe keep SysReq) or maybe invent a new letter or something.Not sure about anyone else but I don't like laptop keyboards in general because I spent a lot of time having to look at the keyboard for the keys I want (eg where is the contl key?
on this one).
If you've ever had to support someone else's laptop you'll know what I mean.
If you use the same laptop every day you get used to the layout, but when you go back and forth to a desktop it's a pain.Maybe the laptop companies will invent a standardized space on the laptop for aftermarket keyboards.
You can purchase one for your laptop that has the key layout you like in a color that defines you to your co-workers.
Where are the marketing guys when you need them?
 </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30769378</id>
	<title>Re:This is not your father's Thinkpad Lenevo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263501660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I imagine the CAPS LOCK key was there for COBOL programmers</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I imagine the CAPS LOCK key was there for COBOL programmers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I imagine the CAPS LOCK key was there for COBOL programmers</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764546</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764738</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263486720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I actually use <a href="http://kember.net/articles/231/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart" title="kember.net">Alt - SysRq - R + E + I + S + U + B</a> [kember.net]:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *  R: Switch the keyboard from raw mode to XLATE mode<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * E: Send the SIGTERM signal to all processes except init<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * I: Send the SIGKILL signal to all processes except init<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * S: Sync all mounted filesystems<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * U: Remount all mounted filesystems in read-only mode<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * B: Immediately reboot the system, without unmounting partitions or syncing</p><p>You don't need to hold the REISUB keys, so you can use your left hand to hold Alt, your right one to hold SysRq and use the free fingers to type REISUB.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually use Alt - SysRq - R + E + I + S + U + B [ kember.net ] :         * R : Switch the keyboard from raw mode to XLATE mode         * E : Send the SIGTERM signal to all processes except init         * I : Send the SIGKILL signal to all processes except init         * S : Sync all mounted filesystems         * U : Remount all mounted filesystems in read-only mode         * B : Immediately reboot the system , without unmounting partitions or syncingYou do n't need to hold the REISUB keys , so you can use your left hand to hold Alt , your right one to hold SysRq and use the free fingers to type REISUB .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually use Alt - SysRq - R + E + I + S + U + B [kember.net]:
        *  R: Switch the keyboard from raw mode to XLATE mode
        * E: Send the SIGTERM signal to all processes except init
        * I: Send the SIGKILL signal to all processes except init
        * S: Sync all mounted filesystems
        * U: Remount all mounted filesystems in read-only mode
        * B: Immediately reboot the system, without unmounting partitions or syncingYou don't need to hold the REISUB keys, so you can use your left hand to hold Alt, your right one to hold SysRq and use the free fingers to type REISUB.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764354</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30770194</id>
	<title>DATE PEOPLE!!!</title>
	<author>Bardwick</author>
	<datestamp>1263461520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>DAMN, 630 comments and counting, some very passionate on a sysrq key.  Seriously?
Skrew Haiti, economy, jobs, and the hot chick from accounting, did you hear what the M.F.'s are doing to keyboards?</htmltext>
<tokenext>DAMN , 630 comments and counting , some very passionate on a sysrq key .
Seriously ? Skrew Haiti , economy , jobs , and the hot chick from accounting , did you hear what the M.F .
's are doing to keyboards ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DAMN, 630 comments and counting, some very passionate on a sysrq key.
Seriously?
Skrew Haiti, economy, jobs, and the hot chick from accounting, did you hear what the M.F.
's are doing to keyboards?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764240</id>
	<title>Print Screen</title>
	<author>Lord Lode</author>
	<datestamp>1263485220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is the Print Screen key. Don't ever remove that key from the keyboard! I don't care that the word "SysRq" is written below "Print Screen" on that key. Feel free to remove that "SysRq" word from there, but do NOT remove the handy print screen key! Thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is the Print Screen key .
Do n't ever remove that key from the keyboard !
I do n't care that the word " SysRq " is written below " Print Screen " on that key .
Feel free to remove that " SysRq " word from there , but do NOT remove the handy print screen key !
Thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is the Print Screen key.
Don't ever remove that key from the keyboard!
I don't care that the word "SysRq" is written below "Print Screen" on that key.
Feel free to remove that "SysRq" word from there, but do NOT remove the handy print screen key!
Thanks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30769808</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263460140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Careful. I accidently typed Alt - SysRq - R + E + I + S + E + R and my wife disappeared.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Careful .
I accidently typed Alt - SysRq - R + E + I + S + E + R and my wife disappeared .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Careful.
I accidently typed Alt - SysRq - R + E + I + S + E + R and my wife disappeared.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764738</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30785032</id>
	<title>Re:Never used it, but the function keys....</title>
	<author>RedBear</author>
	<datestamp>1263555300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>And why stop there? Lenovo has also asked itself how often users press the F Function keys. On the new laptops, the F Function buttons are reduced to secondary controls, in place of laptop controls like screen brightness. Now, you'll need to hold the Fn button to use keys like F11 (while screen brightness can be pressed without holding Fn).</i> </p><p>Now that is a dumb decision.  I use function keys all the time, and having to hold some other key for them to work would definitely be a dealbreaker.  My Microsoft keyboard has an "F Lock" key which is like the Fn key but toggleable (think Caps Lock instead of Shift).  That's a much better design.</p></div><p>No, the better design is the one that allows the vast majority of the market buying the product to use the product more easily. For most people that means it is useful to have dedicated hardware control functions attached to the function keys, whereas someone who grew up using WordStar can go into the keyboard preferences and switch things back so that they can use the function keys normally again. At least, on the Mac it is possible to do this with a single click, I don't know about any particular PC keyboard. If it isn't possible to change the default mode of the F keys on the Lenovo keyboard, that would definitely be bad design.</p><p>A Fn lock key doesn't seem like a good idea to me at all. It would only be necessary if you're constantly switching back and forth between using the dedicated functions and the regular F keys. Normally you'd just keep the keyboard in the mode you use most often and learn to press the Fn key for temporary access to the other mode. Most people would just get massively confused when their dedicated keys stopped working every time they accidentally toggled the Fn lock key. No other meta key on the keyboard except Caps Lock is a toggle key for good reason. Operating the keyboard without realizing that a meta key is toggled can wind up with some very bad results. Caps Lock is the exception because whether it's off or on it won't cause the keyboard to suddenly run unexpected and possibly dangerous commands. Also, its state is immediately obvious to the user when they start typing anything, regardless of whether they notice the indicator light on the keyboard. Making any other meta key a toggle key would be a really bad idea in most cases.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And why stop there ?
Lenovo has also asked itself how often users press the F Function keys .
On the new laptops , the F Function buttons are reduced to secondary controls , in place of laptop controls like screen brightness .
Now , you 'll need to hold the Fn button to use keys like F11 ( while screen brightness can be pressed without holding Fn ) .
Now that is a dumb decision .
I use function keys all the time , and having to hold some other key for them to work would definitely be a dealbreaker .
My Microsoft keyboard has an " F Lock " key which is like the Fn key but toggleable ( think Caps Lock instead of Shift ) .
That 's a much better design.No , the better design is the one that allows the vast majority of the market buying the product to use the product more easily .
For most people that means it is useful to have dedicated hardware control functions attached to the function keys , whereas someone who grew up using WordStar can go into the keyboard preferences and switch things back so that they can use the function keys normally again .
At least , on the Mac it is possible to do this with a single click , I do n't know about any particular PC keyboard .
If it is n't possible to change the default mode of the F keys on the Lenovo keyboard , that would definitely be bad design.A Fn lock key does n't seem like a good idea to me at all .
It would only be necessary if you 're constantly switching back and forth between using the dedicated functions and the regular F keys .
Normally you 'd just keep the keyboard in the mode you use most often and learn to press the Fn key for temporary access to the other mode .
Most people would just get massively confused when their dedicated keys stopped working every time they accidentally toggled the Fn lock key .
No other meta key on the keyboard except Caps Lock is a toggle key for good reason .
Operating the keyboard without realizing that a meta key is toggled can wind up with some very bad results .
Caps Lock is the exception because whether it 's off or on it wo n't cause the keyboard to suddenly run unexpected and possibly dangerous commands .
Also , its state is immediately obvious to the user when they start typing anything , regardless of whether they notice the indicator light on the keyboard .
Making any other meta key a toggle key would be a really bad idea in most cases .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> And why stop there?
Lenovo has also asked itself how often users press the F Function keys.
On the new laptops, the F Function buttons are reduced to secondary controls, in place of laptop controls like screen brightness.
Now, you'll need to hold the Fn button to use keys like F11 (while screen brightness can be pressed without holding Fn).
Now that is a dumb decision.
I use function keys all the time, and having to hold some other key for them to work would definitely be a dealbreaker.
My Microsoft keyboard has an "F Lock" key which is like the Fn key but toggleable (think Caps Lock instead of Shift).
That's a much better design.No, the better design is the one that allows the vast majority of the market buying the product to use the product more easily.
For most people that means it is useful to have dedicated hardware control functions attached to the function keys, whereas someone who grew up using WordStar can go into the keyboard preferences and switch things back so that they can use the function keys normally again.
At least, on the Mac it is possible to do this with a single click, I don't know about any particular PC keyboard.
If it isn't possible to change the default mode of the F keys on the Lenovo keyboard, that would definitely be bad design.A Fn lock key doesn't seem like a good idea to me at all.
It would only be necessary if you're constantly switching back and forth between using the dedicated functions and the regular F keys.
Normally you'd just keep the keyboard in the mode you use most often and learn to press the Fn key for temporary access to the other mode.
Most people would just get massively confused when their dedicated keys stopped working every time they accidentally toggled the Fn lock key.
No other meta key on the keyboard except Caps Lock is a toggle key for good reason.
Operating the keyboard without realizing that a meta key is toggled can wind up with some very bad results.
Caps Lock is the exception because whether it's off or on it won't cause the keyboard to suddenly run unexpected and possibly dangerous commands.
Also, its state is immediately obvious to the user when they start typing anything, regardless of whether they notice the indicator light on the keyboard.
Making any other meta key a toggle key would be a really bad idea in most cases.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765186</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1263488100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does Photoshop even take screenshots?</p><p>That aside, you could buy SnagIt which is cheap and does a much better job of the built-in one (especially with scrolling windows-- you don't have to stitch together different shots for windows longer than your screen!), and you can use it to record movies of your desktop as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does Photoshop even take screenshots ? That aside , you could buy SnagIt which is cheap and does a much better job of the built-in one ( especially with scrolling windows-- you do n't have to stitch together different shots for windows longer than your screen !
) , and you can use it to record movies of your desktop as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does Photoshop even take screenshots?That aside, you could buy SnagIt which is cheap and does a much better job of the built-in one (especially with scrolling windows-- you don't have to stitch together different shots for windows longer than your screen!
), and you can use it to record movies of your desktop as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764476</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766166</id>
	<title>Yes.</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1263491340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> "Ever wondered what the SysRq key on your keyboard does?"</p></div></blockquote><p>

No.  I know exactly what it does and how to use it. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic\_SysRq\_key" title="wikipedia.org"> Magic SysReq Key</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Ever wondered what the SysRq key on your keyboard does ?
" No .
I know exactly what it does and how to use it .
Magic SysReq Key [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "Ever wondered what the SysRq key on your keyboard does?
"

No.
I know exactly what it does and how to use it.
Magic SysReq Key [wikipedia.org]
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30775478</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263492660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow thanks, your name starts with a letter T, WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED, I can't see your username it seems to be hidden from your post so I had no idea what your fist initial was, good thing you posted it again in the body of your post for all to read. You're probably the only person in the whole site whose username starts with that letter of the alphabet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow thanks , your name starts with a letter T , WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED , I ca n't see your username it seems to be hidden from your post so I had no idea what your fist initial was , good thing you posted it again in the body of your post for all to read .
You 're probably the only person in the whole site whose username starts with that letter of the alphabet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow thanks, your name starts with a letter T, WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED, I can't see your username it seems to be hidden from your post so I had no idea what your fist initial was, good thing you posted it again in the body of your post for all to read.
You're probably the only person in the whole site whose username starts with that letter of the alphabet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764826</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764436</id>
	<title>While they're at it....</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1263485940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The IBM PC keyboard has always had the stupidest feature of any keyboard... the GIGANTIC CAPS LOCK key.  I started out on DEC and Commodore keyboard arrangements (some of the latter Commodore keyboards being influenced by DEC's, they were natural enough). And sure, over the years, I've mostly adapted to the PC layout, largely because it's difficult to find a decent keyboard with a better layout. Particularly one with a jog-shuttle built-in, but that's another story.</p><p>Sure, you can remove this or software-disable it. If there's 1\% of users who find this anything but annoying, I would be surprised. The need to put something useful in its place, and move the CAPS LOCK somewhere else. Hey, maybe right next to the other rarely-if-ever-used keys: Print Screen, Scroll Lock, Pause/Break.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The IBM PC keyboard has always had the stupidest feature of any keyboard... the GIGANTIC CAPS LOCK key .
I started out on DEC and Commodore keyboard arrangements ( some of the latter Commodore keyboards being influenced by DEC 's , they were natural enough ) .
And sure , over the years , I 've mostly adapted to the PC layout , largely because it 's difficult to find a decent keyboard with a better layout .
Particularly one with a jog-shuttle built-in , but that 's another story.Sure , you can remove this or software-disable it .
If there 's 1 \ % of users who find this anything but annoying , I would be surprised .
The need to put something useful in its place , and move the CAPS LOCK somewhere else .
Hey , maybe right next to the other rarely-if-ever-used keys : Print Screen , Scroll Lock , Pause/Break .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The IBM PC keyboard has always had the stupidest feature of any keyboard... the GIGANTIC CAPS LOCK key.
I started out on DEC and Commodore keyboard arrangements (some of the latter Commodore keyboards being influenced by DEC's, they were natural enough).
And sure, over the years, I've mostly adapted to the PC layout, largely because it's difficult to find a decent keyboard with a better layout.
Particularly one with a jog-shuttle built-in, but that's another story.Sure, you can remove this or software-disable it.
If there's 1\% of users who find this anything but annoying, I would be surprised.
The need to put something useful in its place, and move the CAPS LOCK somewhere else.
Hey, maybe right next to the other rarely-if-ever-used keys: Print Screen, Scroll Lock, Pause/Break.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766428</id>
	<title>Never used it, but the function keys....</title>
	<author>kalirion</author>
	<datestamp>1263492180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>And why stop there? Lenovo has also asked itself how often users press the F Function keys. On the new laptops, the F Function buttons are reduced to secondary controls, in place of laptop controls like screen brightness. Now, you'll need to hold the Fn button to use keys like F11 (while screen brightness can be pressed without holding Fn).</i></p><p>Now that is a dumb decision.  I use function keys all the time, and having to hold some other key for them to work would definitely be a dealbreaker.  My Microsoft keyboard has an "F Lock" key which is like the Fn key but toggleable (think Caps Lock instead of Shift).  That's a much better design.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And why stop there ?
Lenovo has also asked itself how often users press the F Function keys .
On the new laptops , the F Function buttons are reduced to secondary controls , in place of laptop controls like screen brightness .
Now , you 'll need to hold the Fn button to use keys like F11 ( while screen brightness can be pressed without holding Fn ) .Now that is a dumb decision .
I use function keys all the time , and having to hold some other key for them to work would definitely be a dealbreaker .
My Microsoft keyboard has an " F Lock " key which is like the Fn key but toggleable ( think Caps Lock instead of Shift ) .
That 's a much better design .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And why stop there?
Lenovo has also asked itself how often users press the F Function keys.
On the new laptops, the F Function buttons are reduced to secondary controls, in place of laptop controls like screen brightness.
Now, you'll need to hold the Fn button to use keys like F11 (while screen brightness can be pressed without holding Fn).Now that is a dumb decision.
I use function keys all the time, and having to hold some other key for them to work would definitely be a dealbreaker.
My Microsoft keyboard has an "F Lock" key which is like the Fn key but toggleable (think Caps Lock instead of Shift).
That's a much better design.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766204</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263491460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is why<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. needs a more fluent moderation system, so posts like yours can drift to the top. It deserves to be the first post.<br>By the way, how many of you use these: caps lock, right logo, right control, right shift, scroll lock?<br>And if you're Japanese, how many of you do you use any other conversion keys than the one that toggles between direct input and kana conversion? Don't you think it's annoying that the space bar is now smaller than the shift key?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why / .
needs a more fluent moderation system , so posts like yours can drift to the top .
It deserves to be the first post.By the way , how many of you use these : caps lock , right logo , right control , right shift , scroll lock ? And if you 're Japanese , how many of you do you use any other conversion keys than the one that toggles between direct input and kana conversion ?
Do n't you think it 's annoying that the space bar is now smaller than the shift key ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why /.
needs a more fluent moderation system, so posts like yours can drift to the top.
It deserves to be the first post.By the way, how many of you use these: caps lock, right logo, right control, right shift, scroll lock?And if you're Japanese, how many of you do you use any other conversion keys than the one that toggles between direct input and kana conversion?
Don't you think it's annoying that the space bar is now smaller than the shift key?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764240</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767960</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>redGiraffe</author>
	<datestamp>1263497220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>One major ilk I have </i> </p><p>What's wrong with the word "compliant"?  "Ilk" means alike.</p></div><p>Why does it irk you so?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>One major ilk I have What 's wrong with the word " compliant " ?
" Ilk " means alike.Why does it irk you so ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> One major ilk I have  What's wrong with the word "compliant"?
"Ilk" means alike.Why does it irk you so?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765250</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766124</id>
	<title>Re:PrintScreen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263491220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually I do mind. With a kernel debugger on Windows, PrintScreen is useless as SysRq breaks in to the debugger.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually I do mind .
With a kernel debugger on Windows , PrintScreen is useless as SysRq breaks in to the debugger .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually I do mind.
With a kernel debugger on Windows, PrintScreen is useless as SysRq breaks in to the debugger.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764504</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766172</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263491340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, that's my password!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , that 's my password !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, that's my password!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764738</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764690</id>
	<title>Yes?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263486540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does Your PC Really Need a SysRq Button Anymore?</p></div><p>SysRq, also known as the PrintScreen button. Uhmm yeah, we need it all right.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does Your PC Really Need a SysRq Button Anymore ? SysRq , also known as the PrintScreen button .
Uhmm yeah , we need it all right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does Your PC Really Need a SysRq Button Anymore?SysRq, also known as the PrintScreen button.
Uhmm yeah, we need it all right.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764560</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>jgtg32a</author>
	<datestamp>1263486240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love the caps key now, I rebound it and turned it into an additional CTRL key.  It's much easier to access now, it does cause so drawbacks when I use a different computer though.</p><p><a href="http://johnhaller.com/jh/useful\_stuff/disable\_caps\_lock/" title="johnhaller.com">http://johnhaller.com/jh/useful\_stuff/disable\_caps\_lock/</a> [johnhaller.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love the caps key now , I rebound it and turned it into an additional CTRL key .
It 's much easier to access now , it does cause so drawbacks when I use a different computer though.http : //johnhaller.com/jh/useful \ _stuff/disable \ _caps \ _lock/ [ johnhaller.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love the caps key now, I rebound it and turned it into an additional CTRL key.
It's much easier to access now, it does cause so drawbacks when I use a different computer though.http://johnhaller.com/jh/useful\_stuff/disable\_caps\_lock/ [johnhaller.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764172</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764586</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>lobiusmoop</author>
	<datestamp>1263486360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is your name <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0138704/" title="imdb.com">Max Cohen</a> [imdb.com] by any chance?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is your name Max Cohen [ imdb.com ] by any chance ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is your name Max Cohen [imdb.com] by any chance?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764240</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767048</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263494280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope I'm not slashdotting this guys site but I'm a big fan of this program for Windows: http://www.mirekw.com/winfreeware/mwsnap.html</p><p>Let's you easily capture fixed dimensions, variable dimensions, specific windows or the whole desktop. Also let's you tinker with the export quality if you want to control the size of your images (say for email).</p><p>For what it's worth I have no relation to that site or its project, I just think it's a nifty piece of software.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope I 'm not slashdotting this guys site but I 'm a big fan of this program for Windows : http : //www.mirekw.com/winfreeware/mwsnap.htmlLet 's you easily capture fixed dimensions , variable dimensions , specific windows or the whole desktop .
Also let 's you tinker with the export quality if you want to control the size of your images ( say for email ) .For what it 's worth I have no relation to that site or its project , I just think it 's a nifty piece of software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope I'm not slashdotting this guys site but I'm a big fan of this program for Windows: http://www.mirekw.com/winfreeware/mwsnap.htmlLet's you easily capture fixed dimensions, variable dimensions, specific windows or the whole desktop.
Also let's you tinker with the export quality if you want to control the size of your images (say for email).For what it's worth I have no relation to that site or its project, I just think it's a nifty piece of software.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764476</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30770668</id>
	<title>Re:They're remapping something else</title>
	<author>marcosdumay</author>
	<datestamp>1263463320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"Notice how "print screen" doesn't cause ink to get committed to paper in either Windows or GNOME."</p></div> </blockquote><p>I dunno... On my KDE isntall is does create a png file at my home dir. Keeping in mind that technology changed sinse the key was named, that is not literal "print", but is close enough for me.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Notice how " print screen " does n't cause ink to get committed to paper in either Windows or GNOME .
" I dunno... On my KDE isntall is does create a png file at my home dir .
Keeping in mind that technology changed sinse the key was named , that is not literal " print " , but is close enough for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Notice how "print screen" doesn't cause ink to get committed to paper in either Windows or GNOME.
" I dunno... On my KDE isntall is does create a png file at my home dir.
Keeping in mind that technology changed sinse the key was named, that is not literal "print", but is close enough for me.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764236</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764968</id>
	<title>Wither Scroll Lock</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263487500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A key that started disappearing a while ago is the stupid scroll lock button.  Annoying for me, because at the workplace the scroll lock is used to trigger the switch for the KVM's.  Now when I buy replacement keyboards I have to try and figure out sight unseen if they have stupid scroll lock buttons on them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A key that started disappearing a while ago is the stupid scroll lock button .
Annoying for me , because at the workplace the scroll lock is used to trigger the switch for the KVM 's .
Now when I buy replacement keyboards I have to try and figure out sight unseen if they have stupid scroll lock buttons on them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A key that started disappearing a while ago is the stupid scroll lock button.
Annoying for me, because at the workplace the scroll lock is used to trigger the switch for the KVM's.
Now when I buy replacement keyboards I have to try and figure out sight unseen if they have stupid scroll lock buttons on them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764398</id>
	<title>Goodbye to the ThinkPad brand.</title>
	<author>darthflo</author>
	<datestamp>1263485760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If this change is indicative of what'll happen to the "serious business" series (T, X, R), then the ThinkPad has, after some 18 years or so, finally jumped the shark.</p><p>One of the main selling points of a ThinkPad was the keyboard. When all the other brands went completely nuts and placed the PrtSc/ScrLk/Pause/Insert/Delete/Home/End/PgUp and PgDn keys at a whim, on a ThinkPad you could blindly hit the spot where the key was supposed to be and actually hit it. They were <a href="http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=127" title="lenovoblogs.com">quite</a> [lenovoblogs.com] <a href="http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=130" title="lenovoblogs.com">proud</a> [lenovoblogs.com] of that, and nobody minded.<br>Now, you get a chiclet keyboard with the F-keys disabled by default and six rows. Well, congrats Lenovo, you've just went from top-of-the-line in 2010 to consumer-grade-sony-vaio in 1999 or so.</p><p>Another thing were the displays. Great, high-resolution, matte 4:3 screens one could work with. I own a 12" X61 with 1050 horizontal lines. Nowadays, it's WXGA with less than 800 lines in everything up to 14.1", and half of the models come in glare-type finish. Thanks to the shiny finish you can't see the screen contents anyways, so that slightly mitigates the lack of resolution.</p><p>What's next, Lenovo? Get rid of the high-quality finish of the Notebooks and switch to cheap plastic? Fuck up the support infrastructure IBM built? Oh wait, already happened. I guess it's down to the nipple mouse as the last true hallmark of a ThinkPad. And that, I won't give up 'til you pry it from my cold, dead hands.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If this change is indicative of what 'll happen to the " serious business " series ( T , X , R ) , then the ThinkPad has , after some 18 years or so , finally jumped the shark.One of the main selling points of a ThinkPad was the keyboard .
When all the other brands went completely nuts and placed the PrtSc/ScrLk/Pause/Insert/Delete/Home/End/PgUp and PgDn keys at a whim , on a ThinkPad you could blindly hit the spot where the key was supposed to be and actually hit it .
They were quite [ lenovoblogs.com ] proud [ lenovoblogs.com ] of that , and nobody minded.Now , you get a chiclet keyboard with the F-keys disabled by default and six rows .
Well , congrats Lenovo , you 've just went from top-of-the-line in 2010 to consumer-grade-sony-vaio in 1999 or so.Another thing were the displays .
Great , high-resolution , matte 4 : 3 screens one could work with .
I own a 12 " X61 with 1050 horizontal lines .
Nowadays , it 's WXGA with less than 800 lines in everything up to 14.1 " , and half of the models come in glare-type finish .
Thanks to the shiny finish you ca n't see the screen contents anyways , so that slightly mitigates the lack of resolution.What 's next , Lenovo ?
Get rid of the high-quality finish of the Notebooks and switch to cheap plastic ?
Fuck up the support infrastructure IBM built ?
Oh wait , already happened .
I guess it 's down to the nipple mouse as the last true hallmark of a ThinkPad .
And that , I wo n't give up 'til you pry it from my cold , dead hands .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If this change is indicative of what'll happen to the "serious business" series (T, X, R), then the ThinkPad has, after some 18 years or so, finally jumped the shark.One of the main selling points of a ThinkPad was the keyboard.
When all the other brands went completely nuts and placed the PrtSc/ScrLk/Pause/Insert/Delete/Home/End/PgUp and PgDn keys at a whim, on a ThinkPad you could blindly hit the spot where the key was supposed to be and actually hit it.
They were quite [lenovoblogs.com] proud [lenovoblogs.com] of that, and nobody minded.Now, you get a chiclet keyboard with the F-keys disabled by default and six rows.
Well, congrats Lenovo, you've just went from top-of-the-line in 2010 to consumer-grade-sony-vaio in 1999 or so.Another thing were the displays.
Great, high-resolution, matte 4:3 screens one could work with.
I own a 12" X61 with 1050 horizontal lines.
Nowadays, it's WXGA with less than 800 lines in everything up to 14.1", and half of the models come in glare-type finish.
Thanks to the shiny finish you can't see the screen contents anyways, so that slightly mitigates the lack of resolution.What's next, Lenovo?
Get rid of the high-quality finish of the Notebooks and switch to cheap plastic?
Fuck up the support infrastructure IBM built?
Oh wait, already happened.
I guess it's down to the nipple mouse as the last true hallmark of a ThinkPad.
And that, I won't give up 'til you pry it from my cold, dead hands.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767648</id>
	<title>I'm a defense contractor...</title>
	<author>sean.peters</author>
	<datestamp>1263496200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... and I have to type a lot of acronyms. Hands off my CapsLock key!</htmltext>
<tokenext>... and I have to type a lot of acronyms .
Hands off my CapsLock key !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... and I have to type a lot of acronyms.
Hands off my CapsLock key!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764234</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766444</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>Richard Steiner</author>
	<datestamp>1263492180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's an old IBM CUA convention.  OS/2 did cut and paste with the same keystrokes.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's an old IBM CUA convention .
OS/2 did cut and paste with the same keystrokes .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's an old IBM CUA convention.
OS/2 did cut and paste with the same keystrokes.
:-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764908</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764504</id>
	<title>PrintScreen</title>
	<author>SharpFang</author>
	<datestamp>1263486060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't care about SysRq but I don't mind it sharing space with PrintScreen. And don't you dare taking my PrintScreen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't care about SysRq but I do n't mind it sharing space with PrintScreen .
And do n't you dare taking my PrintScreen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't care about SysRq but I don't mind it sharing space with PrintScreen.
And don't you dare taking my PrintScreen.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765404</id>
	<title>Re:It's there to tell the OS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263488760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...From now on, this is my ANY key.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...From now on , this is my ANY key .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...From now on, this is my ANY key.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764464</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764896</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>jbeaupre</author>
	<datestamp>1263487260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>2-D CAD drawing text is in all caps still.  But can't think of any other use for caps lock.</htmltext>
<tokenext>2-D CAD drawing text is in all caps still .
But ca n't think of any other use for caps lock .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2-D CAD drawing text is in all caps still.
But can't think of any other use for caps lock.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764172</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765986</id>
	<title>Re:They're remapping something else</title>
	<author>DarkOx</author>
	<datestamp>1263490680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that kinda sucks personally.  I actually want to "Print the Screen" pretty often.  Its not an elaborate process where I have to take a screenshot with the key, or some other method. Open some application that can consume an image type of clipboard information paste it in; and then use whatever menu or key combo that app has defined to actually print the image.</p><p>A *Working* print screen would be really useful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that kinda sucks personally .
I actually want to " Print the Screen " pretty often .
Its not an elaborate process where I have to take a screenshot with the key , or some other method .
Open some application that can consume an image type of clipboard information paste it in ; and then use whatever menu or key combo that app has defined to actually print the image.A * Working * print screen would be really useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that kinda sucks personally.
I actually want to "Print the Screen" pretty often.
Its not an elaborate process where I have to take a screenshot with the key, or some other method.
Open some application that can consume an image type of clipboard information paste it in; and then use whatever menu or key combo that app has defined to actually print the image.A *Working* print screen would be really useful.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764236</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764538</id>
	<title>Some thoughts...</title>
	<author>jones\_supa</author>
	<datestamp>1263486180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There indeed are many residual keys on a PC keyboard. The three-button row of SysRq, ScrLk, Break could be eliminated. All locks too. I neither use the numpad or Windows keys, though some people seem to need them.</p><p>The Mac keyboard is really nice, pretty much no unnecessary buttons can be found.</p><p>But here's a cool idea: make it so that the layout ("language") of a keyboard can be auto-detected. I can't believe this hasn't been implemented yet (or has it?). It's probably possible to add some extra data in the USB signal, for example.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There indeed are many residual keys on a PC keyboard .
The three-button row of SysRq , ScrLk , Break could be eliminated .
All locks too .
I neither use the numpad or Windows keys , though some people seem to need them.The Mac keyboard is really nice , pretty much no unnecessary buttons can be found.But here 's a cool idea : make it so that the layout ( " language " ) of a keyboard can be auto-detected .
I ca n't believe this has n't been implemented yet ( or has it ? ) .
It 's probably possible to add some extra data in the USB signal , for example .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There indeed are many residual keys on a PC keyboard.
The three-button row of SysRq, ScrLk, Break could be eliminated.
All locks too.
I neither use the numpad or Windows keys, though some people seem to need them.The Mac keyboard is really nice, pretty much no unnecessary buttons can be found.But here's a cool idea: make it so that the layout ("language") of a keyboard can be auto-detected.
I can't believe this hasn't been implemented yet (or has it?).
It's probably possible to add some extra data in the USB signal, for example.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764218</id>
	<title>I've used it</title>
	<author>jonbryce</author>
	<datestamp>1263485160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If linux freezes, then Alt-SysRq-S+U+B will do an emergency sync of the disks, unmount them and reboot the system.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If linux freezes , then Alt-SysRq-S + U + B will do an emergency sync of the disks , unmount them and reboot the system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If linux freezes, then Alt-SysRq-S+U+B will do an emergency sync of the disks, unmount them and reboot the system.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30770720</id>
	<title>Crappy disk drive</title>
	<author>Merdalors</author>
	<datestamp>1263463440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"fastidious scientists"</p></div><p>Really? I wish they would invest some of that fastidiousness in choosing better disk drives. The drive on my ThinkPad T500 crapped out after a mere six months. This after I paid for what I thought was top-of-the-line hardware.<br> <br>

I was backed up, but it took me several days to reload all the software and get running again. Very unpleasant experience.<br> <br>

Now I can't get Acronis True Image to mirror my whole drive. The last time I tried, my system seized up, I had to lean on the power button for ten seconds to shut it down, and when I rebooted I got a nice message saying "Your system may not restart". Wonderful. <br> <br>

Oh - and the fingerprint scanner stops working after three months. The twerp in tech support casually suggested I would have to "reflash my BIOS". Really? I see you don't user <i>your</i> PC to earn a living.<br> <br>

I never had such grief with generic black boxes.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" fastidious scientists " Really ?
I wish they would invest some of that fastidiousness in choosing better disk drives .
The drive on my ThinkPad T500 crapped out after a mere six months .
This after I paid for what I thought was top-of-the-line hardware .
I was backed up , but it took me several days to reload all the software and get running again .
Very unpleasant experience .
Now I ca n't get Acronis True Image to mirror my whole drive .
The last time I tried , my system seized up , I had to lean on the power button for ten seconds to shut it down , and when I rebooted I got a nice message saying " Your system may not restart " .
Wonderful . Oh - and the fingerprint scanner stops working after three months .
The twerp in tech support casually suggested I would have to " reflash my BIOS " .
Really ? I see you do n't user your PC to earn a living .
I never had such grief with generic black boxes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"fastidious scientists"Really?
I wish they would invest some of that fastidiousness in choosing better disk drives.
The drive on my ThinkPad T500 crapped out after a mere six months.
This after I paid for what I thought was top-of-the-line hardware.
I was backed up, but it took me several days to reload all the software and get running again.
Very unpleasant experience.
Now I can't get Acronis True Image to mirror my whole drive.
The last time I tried, my system seized up, I had to lean on the power button for ten seconds to shut it down, and when I rebooted I got a nice message saying "Your system may not restart".
Wonderful.  

Oh - and the fingerprint scanner stops working after three months.
The twerp in tech support casually suggested I would have to "reflash my BIOS".
Really? I see you don't user your PC to earn a living.
I never had such grief with generic black boxes.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766356</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263491880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use Ctrl + Alt + SYSRQ - S U O to shutdown my thinkpad actually.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Ctrl + Alt + SYSRQ - S U O to shutdown my thinkpad actually .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Ctrl + Alt + SYSRQ - S U O to shutdown my thinkpad actually.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764218</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766380</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>Chatterton</author>
	<datestamp>1263492000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CTRL-V</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CTRL-V</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CTRL-V</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765582</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30771618</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>GF678</author>
	<datestamp>1263466800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've used REISUB several times in Ubuntu, and it's very useful.</p><p>I have to ask though, why is it that Ubuntu can lock up so effective sometimes? I've tracked the problem down to my Intel graphics drivers, and it doesn't happen as much before as it used to. But I've very rarely had full-system lockups in Windows, so why does Linux even have this occurrence where you can't even get to the console?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've used REISUB several times in Ubuntu , and it 's very useful.I have to ask though , why is it that Ubuntu can lock up so effective sometimes ?
I 've tracked the problem down to my Intel graphics drivers , and it does n't happen as much before as it used to .
But I 've very rarely had full-system lockups in Windows , so why does Linux even have this occurrence where you ca n't even get to the console ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've used REISUB several times in Ubuntu, and it's very useful.I have to ask though, why is it that Ubuntu can lock up so effective sometimes?
I've tracked the problem down to my Intel graphics drivers, and it doesn't happen as much before as it used to.
But I've very rarely had full-system lockups in Windows, so why does Linux even have this occurrence where you can't even get to the console?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764738</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765470</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>need4mospd</author>
	<datestamp>1263489000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just use up down up down left right left right B A select start
It hasn't really done anything yet, but I'm pretty sure there are 600 linux lives stored up for me somewhere.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just use up down up down left right left right B A select start It has n't really done anything yet , but I 'm pretty sure there are 600 linux lives stored up for me somewhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just use up down up down left right left right B A select start
It hasn't really done anything yet, but I'm pretty sure there are 600 linux lives stored up for me somewhere.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764832</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764322</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>Chameleon Man</author>
	<datestamp>1263485520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously? Before either of those, it's the Insert key that needs to go first.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously ?
Before either of those , it 's the Insert key that needs to go first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously?
Before either of those, it's the Insert key that needs to go first.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764172</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764234</id>
	<title>Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263485220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The only people I know who use the Caps Lock Key are AOLers.  Anyone who needs a Caps Lock Key for legitimate technical reasons can buy a specialized keyboard for that purpose. That's no reason for the key to be inflicted on the rest of us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only people I know who use the Caps Lock Key are AOLers .
Anyone who needs a Caps Lock Key for legitimate technical reasons can buy a specialized keyboard for that purpose .
That 's no reason for the key to be inflicted on the rest of us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only people I know who use the Caps Lock Key are AOLers.
Anyone who needs a Caps Lock Key for legitimate technical reasons can buy a specialized keyboard for that purpose.
That's no reason for the key to be inflicted on the rest of us.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30777302</id>
	<title>Swap caps-lock and ctrl!</title>
	<author>HyperQuantum</author>
	<datestamp>1263559380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>MOD PARENT UP.  Caps-lock is much less important than CTRL.</htmltext>
<tokenext>MOD PARENT UP .
Caps-lock is much less important than CTRL .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MOD PARENT UP.
Caps-lock is much less important than CTRL.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765458</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765650</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>babblefrog</author>
	<datestamp>1263489720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you have to keep it, move it out of the way so I don't accidentally hit it when reaching for the tab key.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you have to keep it , move it out of the way so I do n't accidentally hit it when reaching for the tab key .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you have to keep it, move it out of the way so I don't accidentally hit it when reaching for the tab key.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764356</id>
	<title>Re:Debug key</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263485640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>In Linux, the kernel can be configured to provide functions for system debugging and crash recovery.[4] This use is known as the "Magic SysRq key".</p></div><p>I guess there will be no more Raising Skinny Elephants on a Lenovo anymore.  And while I have only used it a few times in the last year, I have used it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In Linux , the kernel can be configured to provide functions for system debugging and crash recovery .
[ 4 ] This use is known as the " Magic SysRq key " .I guess there will be no more Raising Skinny Elephants on a Lenovo anymore .
And while I have only used it a few times in the last year , I have used it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Linux, the kernel can be configured to provide functions for system debugging and crash recovery.
[4] This use is known as the "Magic SysRq key".I guess there will be no more Raising Skinny Elephants on a Lenovo anymore.
And while I have only used it a few times in the last year, I have used it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764134</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766996</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>Graff</author>
	<datestamp>1263494100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That is the Print Screen key. Don't ever remove that key from the keyboard!</p></div><p>Printing a screen is a rare enough action that it can be assigned to a key combination rather than one key. Yeah, it's convenient to have "print screen" to be a single key but there's a ton of things that would be convenient if they were a single key, if we made every action map to one key then we'd soon have a couple hundred keys!</p><p>Under Mac OS X you use command-shift-3 to capture the entire screen and command-shift-4 to capture a portion of it. It's very simple and pretty easy to remember. A similar key combination can easily be added to Windows.</p><p>It's a balance between keyboard real estate and ease-of-use. Keyboard real estate is very dear in a laptop so it makes sense to move a rarely-used function like print screen to a key combination.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That is the Print Screen key .
Do n't ever remove that key from the keyboard ! Printing a screen is a rare enough action that it can be assigned to a key combination rather than one key .
Yeah , it 's convenient to have " print screen " to be a single key but there 's a ton of things that would be convenient if they were a single key , if we made every action map to one key then we 'd soon have a couple hundred keys ! Under Mac OS X you use command-shift-3 to capture the entire screen and command-shift-4 to capture a portion of it .
It 's very simple and pretty easy to remember .
A similar key combination can easily be added to Windows.It 's a balance between keyboard real estate and ease-of-use .
Keyboard real estate is very dear in a laptop so it makes sense to move a rarely-used function like print screen to a key combination .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is the Print Screen key.
Don't ever remove that key from the keyboard!Printing a screen is a rare enough action that it can be assigned to a key combination rather than one key.
Yeah, it's convenient to have "print screen" to be a single key but there's a ton of things that would be convenient if they were a single key, if we made every action map to one key then we'd soon have a couple hundred keys!Under Mac OS X you use command-shift-3 to capture the entire screen and command-shift-4 to capture a portion of it.
It's very simple and pretty easy to remember.
A similar key combination can easily be added to Windows.It's a balance between keyboard real estate and ease-of-use.
Keyboard real estate is very dear in a laptop so it makes sense to move a rarely-used function like print screen to a key combination.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764240</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30771178</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>isorox</author>
	<datestamp>1263465120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The only people I know who use the Caps Lock Key are AOLers. </i></p><p>Remapped to escape, originally when my escape key got broken on my old thinkpad, but it's much handier having esc on the home row, got rid of my rsi.</p><p>On my current laptop (HP nc2400), my "Up" key is broken, so I've remapped the "menu" key as up, strange how quickly you get used to it. It allows me to scroll up and down by rocking my hand, in a more natural position than keys directly above/below, which seems gentler on the wrist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only people I know who use the Caps Lock Key are AOLers .
Remapped to escape , originally when my escape key got broken on my old thinkpad , but it 's much handier having esc on the home row , got rid of my rsi.On my current laptop ( HP nc2400 ) , my " Up " key is broken , so I 've remapped the " menu " key as up , strange how quickly you get used to it .
It allows me to scroll up and down by rocking my hand , in a more natural position than keys directly above/below , which seems gentler on the wrist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only people I know who use the Caps Lock Key are AOLers.
Remapped to escape, originally when my escape key got broken on my old thinkpad, but it's much handier having esc on the home row, got rid of my rsi.On my current laptop (HP nc2400), my "Up" key is broken, so I've remapped the "menu" key as up, strange how quickly you get used to it.
It allows me to scroll up and down by rocking my hand, in a more natural position than keys directly above/below, which seems gentler on the wrist.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764234</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767576</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>fnj</author>
	<datestamp>1263495960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the ONE thing about the otherwise wonderful X301 keyboard that drives me INSANE!  Ten bucks via PayPal to the first guy who can tell me an acceptable way to swap Fn and Ctrl on this keyboard GLOBALLY in linux.  It has to work in every version of linux that I use, and it has to work in every context, including both text mode and X.</p><p>Or if somebody can do the job with soldering equipment and a jeweler's loupe, and has access to new replacement X301 keyboards at reasonable cost so I don't have to lose the service of my notebook for an extended period, maybe we can work something out on those lines.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the ONE thing about the otherwise wonderful X301 keyboard that drives me INSANE !
Ten bucks via PayPal to the first guy who can tell me an acceptable way to swap Fn and Ctrl on this keyboard GLOBALLY in linux .
It has to work in every version of linux that I use , and it has to work in every context , including both text mode and X.Or if somebody can do the job with soldering equipment and a jeweler 's loupe , and has access to new replacement X301 keyboards at reasonable cost so I do n't have to lose the service of my notebook for an extended period , maybe we can work something out on those lines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the ONE thing about the otherwise wonderful X301 keyboard that drives me INSANE!
Ten bucks via PayPal to the first guy who can tell me an acceptable way to swap Fn and Ctrl on this keyboard GLOBALLY in linux.
It has to work in every version of linux that I use, and it has to work in every context, including both text mode and X.Or if somebody can do the job with soldering equipment and a jeweler's loupe, and has access to new replacement X301 keyboards at reasonable cost so I don't have to lose the service of my notebook for an extended period, maybe we can work something out on those lines.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764826</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30769978</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>Thantik</author>
	<datestamp>1263460800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've remapped my capslock to ctrl for gaming purposes.  Much easier to hit ctrl/shift when they're up a little higher relatively.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've remapped my capslock to ctrl for gaming purposes .
Much easier to hit ctrl/shift when they 're up a little higher relatively .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've remapped my capslock to ctrl for gaming purposes.
Much easier to hit ctrl/shift when they're up a little higher relatively.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764234</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765200</id>
	<title>Re:I don't recall ever using it...</title>
	<author>Z00L00K</author>
	<datestamp>1263488160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linux kernel developers also use that button.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux kernel developers also use that button .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux kernel developers also use that button.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765722</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>zero\_out</author>
	<datestamp>1263489900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use Caps Lock a lot.  As a software developer, I often need to create constants which are formatted as MY\_VARIABLE.  The problem is that I have a problem with the nerves in my pinky (is that a real word?).  After about two hours of coding, the finger will hurt, then tingle, and finally go numb from the tip all the way down to my wrist for the rest of the day (sometimes until the weekend).  It only affects this finger, and only when I need to use the Shift key a lot.  To alleviate this, I use the Caps Lock key.  It usually allows me to go the entire day without any problems.

Yes, I use IDEs with autocomplete/assistance, but it's simply not enough.  I've also looked into problems with my Ulnar nerve, but it seems to be fine.  The only thing that seems to alleviate the problem is tapping using the Caps Lock key instead of holding down the Shift key.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Caps Lock a lot .
As a software developer , I often need to create constants which are formatted as MY \ _VARIABLE .
The problem is that I have a problem with the nerves in my pinky ( is that a real word ? ) .
After about two hours of coding , the finger will hurt , then tingle , and finally go numb from the tip all the way down to my wrist for the rest of the day ( sometimes until the weekend ) .
It only affects this finger , and only when I need to use the Shift key a lot .
To alleviate this , I use the Caps Lock key .
It usually allows me to go the entire day without any problems .
Yes , I use IDEs with autocomplete/assistance , but it 's simply not enough .
I 've also looked into problems with my Ulnar nerve , but it seems to be fine .
The only thing that seems to alleviate the problem is tapping using the Caps Lock key instead of holding down the Shift key .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Caps Lock a lot.
As a software developer, I often need to create constants which are formatted as MY\_VARIABLE.
The problem is that I have a problem with the nerves in my pinky (is that a real word?).
After about two hours of coding, the finger will hurt, then tingle, and finally go numb from the tip all the way down to my wrist for the rest of the day (sometimes until the weekend).
It only affects this finger, and only when I need to use the Shift key a lot.
To alleviate this, I use the Caps Lock key.
It usually allows me to go the entire day without any problems.
Yes, I use IDEs with autocomplete/assistance, but it's simply not enough.
I've also looked into problems with my Ulnar nerve, but it seems to be fine.
The only thing that seems to alleviate the problem is tapping using the Caps Lock key instead of holding down the Shift key.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765772</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of unnecessary one and zero keys</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263490140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ell oh ell</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ell oh ell</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ell oh ell</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764372</id>
	<title>Probably not.</title>
	<author>lorg</author>
	<datestamp>1263485700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The people in the market segment for the Lenovo Laptops probably don't need the SysRq button (nor Print Screen). I'm fairly sure you could remove a bunch of other buttons they don't need beyond that one to. 12 function keys? the "Scroll Lock" and "Pause/Break" probably doesn't do much either - but they might already be gone.</p><p>The question is what are you going to replace them with? I don't really need a shortcut button to check my email or whatever either. Plus removing keys and moving them around really screws up the layout and has a serious negative impact on my type-speed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The people in the market segment for the Lenovo Laptops probably do n't need the SysRq button ( nor Print Screen ) .
I 'm fairly sure you could remove a bunch of other buttons they do n't need beyond that one to .
12 function keys ?
the " Scroll Lock " and " Pause/Break " probably does n't do much either - but they might already be gone.The question is what are you going to replace them with ?
I do n't really need a shortcut button to check my email or whatever either .
Plus removing keys and moving them around really screws up the layout and has a serious negative impact on my type-speed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The people in the market segment for the Lenovo Laptops probably don't need the SysRq button (nor Print Screen).
I'm fairly sure you could remove a bunch of other buttons they don't need beyond that one to.
12 function keys?
the "Scroll Lock" and "Pause/Break" probably doesn't do much either - but they might already be gone.The question is what are you going to replace them with?
I don't really need a shortcut button to check my email or whatever either.
Plus removing keys and moving them around really screws up the layout and has a serious negative impact on my type-speed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764602</id>
	<title>Mainframes</title>
	<author>LaminatorX</author>
	<datestamp>1263486360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you're using something that expects an IBM 3270 client, that key is important.  Now, are ThinkPads used in that role very often? Perhaps not.  If they remove that functionality, they certainly wont be.  I suppose a good term emulator should be able to map some other key or combo to send System Request.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're using something that expects an IBM 3270 client , that key is important .
Now , are ThinkPads used in that role very often ?
Perhaps not .
If they remove that functionality , they certainly wont be .
I suppose a good term emulator should be able to map some other key or combo to send System Request .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're using something that expects an IBM 3270 client, that key is important.
Now, are ThinkPads used in that role very often?
Perhaps not.
If they remove that functionality, they certainly wont be.
I suppose a good term emulator should be able to map some other key or combo to send System Request.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765284</id>
	<title>Leave CAPS LOCK ALONE!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263488400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where I work, all SQL code must be written in all upper-case.  I don't know why, but that's the rule.</p><p>So I rely on the caps lock key quite a bit.  I would rather you leave that one alone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where I work , all SQL code must be written in all upper-case .
I do n't know why , but that 's the rule.So I rely on the caps lock key quite a bit .
I would rather you leave that one alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where I work, all SQL code must be written in all upper-case.
I don't know why, but that's the rule.So I rely on the caps lock key quite a bit.
I would rather you leave that one alone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765060</id>
	<title>Re:Goodbye to the ThinkPad brand.</title>
	<author>VGPowerlord</author>
	<datestamp>1263487740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I guess it's down to the nipple mouse as the last true hallmark of a ThinkPad. And that, I won't give up 'til you pry it from my cold, dead hands.</p></div></blockquote><p>That'd be a pretty stupid move.  After all, guys pay more attention to things with nipples.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess it 's down to the nipple mouse as the last true hallmark of a ThinkPad .
And that , I wo n't give up 'til you pry it from my cold , dead hands.That 'd be a pretty stupid move .
After all , guys pay more attention to things with nipples .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess it's down to the nipple mouse as the last true hallmark of a ThinkPad.
And that, I won't give up 'til you pry it from my cold, dead hands.That'd be a pretty stupid move.
After all, guys pay more attention to things with nipples.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766774</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>Bert64</author>
	<datestamp>1263493260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A lot of older keyboards had a ctrl key where capslock is usually placed on modern keyboards...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A lot of older keyboards had a ctrl key where capslock is usually placed on modern keyboards.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lot of older keyboards had a ctrl key where capslock is usually placed on modern keyboards...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766970</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>bigdavex</author>
	<datestamp>1263494040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Although, it still amazes me the amount of people who still install 'freeware' utilities to take screengrabs of dialogs, when Windows has had that functionality built in for many versions...</p></div></blockquote><p>It's not an intuitive UI.  It doesn't surprise me at all.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Although , it still amazes me the amount of people who still install 'freeware ' utilities to take screengrabs of dialogs , when Windows has had that functionality built in for many versions...It 's not an intuitive UI .
It does n't surprise me at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although, it still amazes me the amount of people who still install 'freeware' utilities to take screengrabs of dialogs, when Windows has had that functionality built in for many versions...It's not an intuitive UI.
It doesn't surprise me at all.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764476</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764676</id>
	<title>What key again?</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1263486540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm looking down at my vanilla Logitech keyboard and I don't see any key with "SysRq" on it.</p><p>So I guess I don't need one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm looking down at my vanilla Logitech keyboard and I do n't see any key with " SysRq " on it.So I guess I do n't need one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm looking down at my vanilla Logitech keyboard and I don't see any key with "SysRq" on it.So I guess I don't need one.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764546</id>
	<title>This is not your father's Thinkpad Lenevo!</title>
	<author>Zero\_\_Kelvin</author>
	<datestamp>1263486180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>They would do better to remove the CAPS LOCK key, which is more bulky and - as far as I know - useful only to morons who don't know how to keep from SHOUTING on the internet.  If CAPS LOCK functionality is really needed, they could just allow holding the Shift key for a period longer than t(x).  The SysRq key is both the same key as "Print Screen" which is often used <b> <i>and</i></b>  useful, and is a major component of debugging for the most used operating system in the server market (Linux). (Bear in mind that the kernel that runs on those servers gets <b> <i>developed</i></b>  on laptops and desktop workstations, not servers.)<br> <br>As a Linux developer this move screams to me: <i>"HEY!  WE'RE LENEVO, AND NOW THAT WE HAVE BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO THE THINKPAD NAME FROM IBM, WE ARE SHOUTING HOW CLUELESS WE ARE BECOMING FROM THE VIRTUAL ROOFTOPS".<br> <br>This is <b> <i>NOT</i></b> </i> their father's Thinkpad.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They would do better to remove the CAPS LOCK key , which is more bulky and - as far as I know - useful only to morons who do n't know how to keep from SHOUTING on the internet .
If CAPS LOCK functionality is really needed , they could just allow holding the Shift key for a period longer than t ( x ) .
The SysRq key is both the same key as " Print Screen " which is often used and useful , and is a major component of debugging for the most used operating system in the server market ( Linux ) .
( Bear in mind that the kernel that runs on those servers gets developed on laptops and desktop workstations , not servers .
) As a Linux developer this move screams to me : " HEY !
WE 'RE LENEVO , AND NOW THAT WE HAVE BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO THE THINKPAD NAME FROM IBM , WE ARE SHOUTING HOW CLUELESS WE ARE BECOMING FROM THE VIRTUAL ROOFTOPS " .
This is NOT their father 's Thinkpad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They would do better to remove the CAPS LOCK key, which is more bulky and - as far as I know - useful only to morons who don't know how to keep from SHOUTING on the internet.
If CAPS LOCK functionality is really needed, they could just allow holding the Shift key for a period longer than t(x).
The SysRq key is both the same key as "Print Screen" which is often used  and  useful, and is a major component of debugging for the most used operating system in the server market (Linux).
(Bear in mind that the kernel that runs on those servers gets  developed  on laptops and desktop workstations, not servers.
) As a Linux developer this move screams to me: "HEY!
WE'RE LENEVO, AND NOW THAT WE HAVE BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO THE THINKPAD NAME FROM IBM, WE ARE SHOUTING HOW CLUELESS WE ARE BECOMING FROM THE VIRTUAL ROOFTOPS".
This is  NOT  their father's Thinkpad.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764790</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of unnecessary one and zero keys</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1263486960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Funny? Who modded this funny? Young'uns don't remember, I know, but you have NO idea how many programs barfed in the early days because you got people who couldn't tell the difference between a 0 and an O. So programmers came up with the bright idea to mark the 0 with a dash through it.</p><p>In came the Danes and promptly managed to confuse it with an &#216;. We just couldn't win.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny ?
Who modded this funny ?
Young'uns do n't remember , I know , but you have NO idea how many programs barfed in the early days because you got people who could n't tell the difference between a 0 and an O. So programmers came up with the bright idea to mark the 0 with a dash through it.In came the Danes and promptly managed to confuse it with an   .
We just could n't win .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny?
Who modded this funny?
Young'uns don't remember, I know, but you have NO idea how many programs barfed in the early days because you got people who couldn't tell the difference between a 0 and an O. So programmers came up with the bright idea to mark the 0 with a dash through it.In came the Danes and promptly managed to confuse it with an Ø.
We just couldn't win.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765094</id>
	<title>Re:Debug key</title>
	<author>lcarnevale</author>
	<datestamp>1263487860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeap, I agree, the Magic SysRq key may be used little if at all (I don't remember the last time I used it), but maybe the solution is not removing the key because is not used, instead try to finding it a use.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeap , I agree , the Magic SysRq key may be used little if at all ( I do n't remember the last time I used it ) , but maybe the solution is not removing the key because is not used , instead try to finding it a use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeap, I agree, the Magic SysRq key may be used little if at all (I don't remember the last time I used it), but maybe the solution is not removing the key because is not used, instead try to finding it a use.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767250</id>
	<title>Re:Goodbye to the ThinkPad brand.</title>
	<author>fnj</author>
	<datestamp>1263495000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I own a 12" X61 with 1050 horizontal lines. Nowadays, it's WXGA with less than 800 lines in everything up to 14.1"</p></div></blockquote><p>Wrong, I'm glad to say - at least it hasn't quite happened yet.  The X301 has 1440x900 in a 13" screen, and it is a proper matte screen.  The keyboard is a proper layout too.  When this model is replaced, and mine finally dies, if they don't have a proper replacement, I may just kill myself.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I own a 12 " X61 with 1050 horizontal lines .
Nowadays , it 's WXGA with less than 800 lines in everything up to 14.1 " Wrong , I 'm glad to say - at least it has n't quite happened yet .
The X301 has 1440x900 in a 13 " screen , and it is a proper matte screen .
The keyboard is a proper layout too .
When this model is replaced , and mine finally dies , if they do n't have a proper replacement , I may just kill myself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I own a 12" X61 with 1050 horizontal lines.
Nowadays, it's WXGA with less than 800 lines in everything up to 14.1"Wrong, I'm glad to say - at least it hasn't quite happened yet.
The X301 has 1440x900 in a 13" screen, and it is a proper matte screen.
The keyboard is a proper layout too.
When this model is replaced, and mine finally dies, if they don't have a proper replacement, I may just kill myself.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764112</id>
	<title>I don't recall ever using it...</title>
	<author>ls671</author>
	<datestamp>1263484800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't recall ever using that key although I have coded my own "terminate and stay resident" (TSR) programs back then in order to achieve some level of multitasking in DOS.</p><p>With TSR programs, you could intercept the timer interrupt and do some amount of computation in the background before returning to the running program. You could also intercept the keyboard interrupt in order to switch from one application to another on the fly but I have never actually intercepted the Sysrq key. I used some other hot key combination definition. Maybe back then I though that it wasn't a good idea to fool around with that key but this page says other TSR programmers were using it:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System\_request" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System\_request</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't recall ever using that key although I have coded my own " terminate and stay resident " ( TSR ) programs back then in order to achieve some level of multitasking in DOS.With TSR programs , you could intercept the timer interrupt and do some amount of computation in the background before returning to the running program .
You could also intercept the keyboard interrupt in order to switch from one application to another on the fly but I have never actually intercepted the Sysrq key .
I used some other hot key combination definition .
Maybe back then I though that it was n't a good idea to fool around with that key but this page says other TSR programmers were using it : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System \ _request [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't recall ever using that key although I have coded my own "terminate and stay resident" (TSR) programs back then in order to achieve some level of multitasking in DOS.With TSR programs, you could intercept the timer interrupt and do some amount of computation in the background before returning to the running program.
You could also intercept the keyboard interrupt in order to switch from one application to another on the fly but I have never actually intercepted the Sysrq key.
I used some other hot key combination definition.
Maybe back then I though that it wasn't a good idea to fool around with that key but this page says other TSR programmers were using it:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System\_request [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766732</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263493200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The new ThinkPads all include this BIOS swapping option. http://lenovoblogs.com/yamato/?p=518&amp;language=en</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The new ThinkPads all include this BIOS swapping option .
http : //lenovoblogs.com/yamato/ ? p = 518&amp;language = en</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The new ThinkPads all include this BIOS swapping option.
http://lenovoblogs.com/yamato/?p=518&amp;language=en</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767490</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>the\_womble</author>
	<datestamp>1263495720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My department needed another Bloomberg terminal or two.</p><p>Someone found out there was one that was virtually unused (and then only to get info that was available from cheaper sources), even though we were not being given the money to get more.</p><p>The reason: they have always had it and it would upset them if it was taken away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My department needed another Bloomberg terminal or two.Someone found out there was one that was virtually unused ( and then only to get info that was available from cheaper sources ) , even though we were not being given the money to get more.The reason : they have always had it and it would upset them if it was taken away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My department needed another Bloomberg terminal or two.Someone found out there was one that was virtually unused (and then only to get info that was available from cheaper sources), even though we were not being given the money to get more.The reason: they have always had it and it would upset them if it was taken away.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764476</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30775156</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of unnecessary one and zero keys</title>
	<author>FrankDrebin</author>
	<datestamp>1263488760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually you aren't far off.  When keyboards were first being developed they operated like serial modems.  There were two wide keys, one for "mark" and the other "space".  The "mark" bar has since been replaced by dozens of the smaller keys for letters, numbers, and punctuation.  The "space" bar lives on to this day.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually you are n't far off .
When keyboards were first being developed they operated like serial modems .
There were two wide keys , one for " mark " and the other " space " .
The " mark " bar has since been replaced by dozens of the smaller keys for letters , numbers , and punctuation .
The " space " bar lives on to this day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually you aren't far off.
When keyboards were first being developed they operated like serial modems.
There were two wide keys, one for "mark" and the other "space".
The "mark" bar has since been replaced by dozens of the smaller keys for letters, numbers, and punctuation.
The "space" bar lives on to this day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765724</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1263489960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wikipedia has a nice mnemonic device:<br><strong>R</strong>aising <strong>E</strong>lephants <strong>I</strong>s <strong>S</strong>o <strong>U</strong>tterly <strong>B</strong>oring.<br>Or &ldquo;BUSIER&rdquo; bacwkwards.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wikipedia has a nice mnemonic device : Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring.Or    BUSIER    bacwkwards .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wikipedia has a nice mnemonic device:Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring.Or “BUSIER” bacwkwards.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765250</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263488280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>One major ilk I have </i></p><p>What's wrong with the word "compliant"?  "Ilk" means alike.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One major ilk I have What 's wrong with the word " compliant " ?
" Ilk " means alike .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One major ilk I have What's wrong with the word "compliant"?
"Ilk" means alike.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766596</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263492720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since you suggested mnemonics, I'll add mine:</p><p>Reboot Even If System's Utterly Broken.</p><p>Though Elephants seem more cheerful, heh!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since you suggested mnemonics , I 'll add mine : Reboot Even If System 's Utterly Broken.Though Elephants seem more cheerful , heh !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since you suggested mnemonics, I'll add mine:Reboot Even If System's Utterly Broken.Though Elephants seem more cheerful, heh!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764832</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>ais523</author>
	<datestamp>1263487080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
You don't. You hold down alt and sysrq, but the other keys are pressed in sequence (and rather slowly). (Some laptop keyboards with sysrq requiring fn require you to let go of sysrq while you press the other keys, in which case you hold down alt but alternate between sysrq and the other characters.)
</p><p>
Incidentally, for the grandparent: you probably want to write the whole sequence of 6 commands, R E I S U B, rather than just S U B. The R sets the keyboard to raw mode, sometimes allowing you to control-alt-f1 into a terminal and fix the crash without rebooting. E tells all the processes which are still running properly to terminate (many of them will save crash recovery or autosave data if you do that, so you can more easily get back to where you were); I kills all the processes that didn't shut down when you pressed E. This means that when you use S to synchronise the disks, it actually saves what you want to save, and nothing tries to queue up more data to save afterwards. Then U remounts filesystems readonly (or unmounts them; it comes to much the same thing), and B reboots the system instantly (the REISU do the rest of the shutdown process between them).
</p><p>
A good mnemonic for this is that REISUB is "busier" spelt backwards. (Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring is another common mnemonic.)
</p><p>
Sometimes I end up doing REISUO instead; unlike REISUB which is a manual reboot, RESIUO is a manual shutdown. It all rather depends on whether you want the system to stay down or come back up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't .
You hold down alt and sysrq , but the other keys are pressed in sequence ( and rather slowly ) .
( Some laptop keyboards with sysrq requiring fn require you to let go of sysrq while you press the other keys , in which case you hold down alt but alternate between sysrq and the other characters .
) Incidentally , for the grandparent : you probably want to write the whole sequence of 6 commands , R E I S U B , rather than just S U B. The R sets the keyboard to raw mode , sometimes allowing you to control-alt-f1 into a terminal and fix the crash without rebooting .
E tells all the processes which are still running properly to terminate ( many of them will save crash recovery or autosave data if you do that , so you can more easily get back to where you were ) ; I kills all the processes that did n't shut down when you pressed E. This means that when you use S to synchronise the disks , it actually saves what you want to save , and nothing tries to queue up more data to save afterwards .
Then U remounts filesystems readonly ( or unmounts them ; it comes to much the same thing ) , and B reboots the system instantly ( the REISU do the rest of the shutdown process between them ) .
A good mnemonic for this is that REISUB is " busier " spelt backwards .
( Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring is another common mnemonic .
) Sometimes I end up doing REISUO instead ; unlike REISUB which is a manual reboot , RESIUO is a manual shutdown .
It all rather depends on whether you want the system to stay down or come back up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
You don't.
You hold down alt and sysrq, but the other keys are pressed in sequence (and rather slowly).
(Some laptop keyboards with sysrq requiring fn require you to let go of sysrq while you press the other keys, in which case you hold down alt but alternate between sysrq and the other characters.
)

Incidentally, for the grandparent: you probably want to write the whole sequence of 6 commands, R E I S U B, rather than just S U B. The R sets the keyboard to raw mode, sometimes allowing you to control-alt-f1 into a terminal and fix the crash without rebooting.
E tells all the processes which are still running properly to terminate (many of them will save crash recovery or autosave data if you do that, so you can more easily get back to where you were); I kills all the processes that didn't shut down when you pressed E. This means that when you use S to synchronise the disks, it actually saves what you want to save, and nothing tries to queue up more data to save afterwards.
Then U remounts filesystems readonly (or unmounts them; it comes to much the same thing), and B reboots the system instantly (the REISU do the rest of the shutdown process between them).
A good mnemonic for this is that REISUB is "busier" spelt backwards.
(Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring is another common mnemonic.
)

Sometimes I end up doing REISUO instead; unlike REISUB which is a manual reboot, RESIUO is a manual shutdown.
It all rather depends on whether you want the system to stay down or come back up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765922</id>
	<title>Re:Goodbye to the ThinkPad brand.</title>
	<author>nametaken</author>
	<datestamp>1263490500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought R61i's for our staff at work.  They're still relatively durable, the display doesn't have that bullshit glassy finish, and it features all of the keys you mention... though I think the SysRq key is a total waste.  They are widescreen, which I sometimes prefer and sometimes wish were 4:3 and had more vertical lines.  This is particularly true when I'm looking at an IDE, though I doubt that's a common complaint.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought R61i 's for our staff at work .
They 're still relatively durable , the display does n't have that bullshit glassy finish , and it features all of the keys you mention... though I think the SysRq key is a total waste .
They are widescreen , which I sometimes prefer and sometimes wish were 4 : 3 and had more vertical lines .
This is particularly true when I 'm looking at an IDE , though I doubt that 's a common complaint .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought R61i's for our staff at work.
They're still relatively durable, the display doesn't have that bullshit glassy finish, and it features all of the keys you mention... though I think the SysRq key is a total waste.
They are widescreen, which I sometimes prefer and sometimes wish were 4:3 and had more vertical lines.
This is particularly true when I'm looking at an IDE, though I doubt that's a common complaint.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766018</id>
	<title>great for canadian postal codes</title>
	<author>Briden</author>
	<datestamp>1263490800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>typing canadian postal codes is so much easier with capslock ie: G7G H8G</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>typing canadian postal codes is so much easier with capslock ie : G7G H8G</tokentext>
<sentencetext>typing canadian postal codes is so much easier with capslock ie: G7G H8G</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765498</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>christopherfinke</author>
	<datestamp>1263489120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...or anyone that does data entry for a living, where all-caps is the standard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...or anyone that does data entry for a living , where all-caps is the standard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...or anyone that does data entry for a living, where all-caps is the standard.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30797648</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of unnecessary one and zero keys</title>
	<author>kitgerrits</author>
	<datestamp>1263737040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They only key ya really need is the RRrrrr, matey!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They only key ya really need is the RRrrrr , matey !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They only key ya really need is the RRrrrr, matey!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30770230</id>
	<title>windows keys</title>
	<author>Mirar</author>
	<datestamp>1263461700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does that mean that those pesky windows keys will vanish?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does that mean that those pesky windows keys will vanish ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does that mean that those pesky windows keys will vanish?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766248</id>
	<title>Re:They're remapping something else</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1263491580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Which isn't a sufficiently common operation to require a key dedicated to it.  For reference, on OS X you take a screenshot with command-shift-3 or a shot of a single window or screen region with command-shift-4 (press space to toggle between the two).  I've never felt the lack of having a dedicated button to slow me down, but then taking screenshots is something that I do once every few months.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Which is n't a sufficiently common operation to require a key dedicated to it .
For reference , on OS X you take a screenshot with command-shift-3 or a shot of a single window or screen region with command-shift-4 ( press space to toggle between the two ) .
I 've never felt the lack of having a dedicated button to slow me down , but then taking screenshots is something that I do once every few months .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which isn't a sufficiently common operation to require a key dedicated to it.
For reference, on OS X you take a screenshot with command-shift-3 or a shot of a single window or screen region with command-shift-4 (press space to toggle between the two).
I've never felt the lack of having a dedicated button to slow me down, but then taking screenshots is something that I do once every few months.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766272</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263491640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Stay the fuck away from my NumLock key.  Does it serve a purpose?  YES.  Many terminals (thus terminal emulation software) behave differently if you press 0-9 on the numpad (NumLock=on) than if you press 0-9 across the top row.  Yes, they are different scan codes.  Additionally, some software distinguishes the difference between 2/4/6/8 numpad arrow keys (when NumLock=off) and the actual arrow keys on a PC keyboard.  (I'm intentionally avoiding the laptop topic; Fn keys are some sort of Richard Stallman invention, I'm sure of it...)</p><p>And if that isn't enough: Nethack and Rogue players will have your scrotum in a vice if you remove this key.</p><p>As far as CapsLock goes -- agreed, get rid of it.</p><p>I like how no one's brought up ScrollLock... probably because FreeBSD uses it to toggle VGA console buffer scrollback mode.  (Migrating from Linux to FreeBSD was  fun.  "Why isn't Shift-PageUp doing anything?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...Eh?!  Press WHAT?!  Hmm... actually that makes sense in a way...").</p><p>While I'm on my soapbox, also get rid of these keyboards which completely buggered the Insert/Home/PUp/Delete/End/PDown area, turning the Delete key into a proverbial dildo and making PrtScn/SysRq also take on a new function: Insert.  Microsoft started that bullshit, and now all keyboard manufacturers have adopted it.  Microsoft is also in the process of getting rid of that (indirect admittance that it was failblog worthy), yet Logitech keeps stroking their cock when it comes to that layout... unless, of course, you shell out a bunch of money for a l33t f4g g4m3rz!!$!@$111!!1!1@!$ keyboard: no thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Stay the fuck away from my NumLock key .
Does it serve a purpose ?
YES. Many terminals ( thus terminal emulation software ) behave differently if you press 0-9 on the numpad ( NumLock = on ) than if you press 0-9 across the top row .
Yes , they are different scan codes .
Additionally , some software distinguishes the difference between 2/4/6/8 numpad arrow keys ( when NumLock = off ) and the actual arrow keys on a PC keyboard .
( I 'm intentionally avoiding the laptop topic ; Fn keys are some sort of Richard Stallman invention , I 'm sure of it... ) And if that is n't enough : Nethack and Rogue players will have your scrotum in a vice if you remove this key.As far as CapsLock goes -- agreed , get rid of it.I like how no one 's brought up ScrollLock... probably because FreeBSD uses it to toggle VGA console buffer scrollback mode .
( Migrating from Linux to FreeBSD was fun .
" Why is n't Shift-PageUp doing anything ?
...Eh ? ! Press WHAT ? !
Hmm... actually that makes sense in a way... " ) .While I 'm on my soapbox , also get rid of these keyboards which completely buggered the Insert/Home/PUp/Delete/End/PDown area , turning the Delete key into a proverbial dildo and making PrtScn/SysRq also take on a new function : Insert .
Microsoft started that bullshit , and now all keyboard manufacturers have adopted it .
Microsoft is also in the process of getting rid of that ( indirect admittance that it was failblog worthy ) , yet Logitech keeps stroking their cock when it comes to that layout... unless , of course , you shell out a bunch of money for a l33t f4g g4m3rz ! ! $ ! @ $ 111 !
! 1 ! 1 @ ! $ keyboard : no thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stay the fuck away from my NumLock key.
Does it serve a purpose?
YES.  Many terminals (thus terminal emulation software) behave differently if you press 0-9 on the numpad (NumLock=on) than if you press 0-9 across the top row.
Yes, they are different scan codes.
Additionally, some software distinguishes the difference between 2/4/6/8 numpad arrow keys (when NumLock=off) and the actual arrow keys on a PC keyboard.
(I'm intentionally avoiding the laptop topic; Fn keys are some sort of Richard Stallman invention, I'm sure of it...)And if that isn't enough: Nethack and Rogue players will have your scrotum in a vice if you remove this key.As far as CapsLock goes -- agreed, get rid of it.I like how no one's brought up ScrollLock... probably because FreeBSD uses it to toggle VGA console buffer scrollback mode.
(Migrating from Linux to FreeBSD was  fun.
"Why isn't Shift-PageUp doing anything?
...Eh?!  Press WHAT?!
Hmm... actually that makes sense in a way...").While I'm on my soapbox, also get rid of these keyboards which completely buggered the Insert/Home/PUp/Delete/End/PDown area, turning the Delete key into a proverbial dildo and making PrtScn/SysRq also take on a new function: Insert.
Microsoft started that bullshit, and now all keyboard manufacturers have adopted it.
Microsoft is also in the process of getting rid of that (indirect admittance that it was failblog worthy), yet Logitech keeps stroking their cock when it comes to that layout... unless, of course, you shell out a bunch of money for a l33t f4g g4m3rz!!$!@$111!
!1!1@!$ keyboard: no thanks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765162</id>
	<title>Get rid of the Fn key</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263488040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can fit all the keys you really need on a laptop-size keyboard, full sized keys, too... with no Fn key. I had a very nice "compact" desktop keyboard made by Adesso that had a near-ideal layout, with no scaled down keys and no Fn keys. Unfortunately this keyboard is no longer available, and my last one broke a couple of years ago. If anyone knows a reliable source for the Adesso MCK-86 (or MCK-84), I'd love to hear about it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can fit all the keys you really need on a laptop-size keyboard , full sized keys , too... with no Fn key .
I had a very nice " compact " desktop keyboard made by Adesso that had a near-ideal layout , with no scaled down keys and no Fn keys .
Unfortunately this keyboard is no longer available , and my last one broke a couple of years ago .
If anyone knows a reliable source for the Adesso MCK-86 ( or MCK-84 ) , I 'd love to hear about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can fit all the keys you really need on a laptop-size keyboard, full sized keys, too... with no Fn key.
I had a very nice "compact" desktop keyboard made by Adesso that had a near-ideal layout, with no scaled down keys and no Fn keys.
Unfortunately this keyboard is no longer available, and my last one broke a couple of years ago.
If anyone knows a reliable source for the Adesso MCK-86 (or MCK-84), I'd love to hear about it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766118</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>grahamm</author>
	<datestamp>1263491160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do computer keyboards have a CAPS lock rather than a SHIFT Lock as on manual typewriters?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do computer keyboards have a CAPS lock rather than a SHIFT Lock as on manual typewriters ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do computer keyboards have a CAPS lock rather than a SHIFT Lock as on manual typewriters?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766142</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>MattSausage</author>
	<datestamp>1263491280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You realize how much easier it would have been to type your last sentence if you had a caps lock key?<br> <br>Also, how crazy are you that you hate those specific keys enough to deface your keyboard over them?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You realize how much easier it would have been to type your last sentence if you had a caps lock key ?
Also , how crazy are you that you hate those specific keys enough to deface your keyboard over them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You realize how much easier it would have been to type your last sentence if you had a caps lock key?
Also, how crazy are you that you hate those specific keys enough to deface your keyboard over them?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30770738</id>
	<title>Re:This is not your father's Thinkpad Lenevo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263463500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CAPS LOCK is useful to more than just morons.  People in engineer/technical work use it quite often.  Mechanical and electrical drawings are usually made in all caps.  I spend most of my day making drawings, and hence have the caps lock on most of the day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CAPS LOCK is useful to more than just morons .
People in engineer/technical work use it quite often .
Mechanical and electrical drawings are usually made in all caps .
I spend most of my day making drawings , and hence have the caps lock on most of the day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CAPS LOCK is useful to more than just morons.
People in engineer/technical work use it quite often.
Mechanical and electrical drawings are usually made in all caps.
I spend most of my day making drawings, and hence have the caps lock on most of the day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764898</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263487260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CAPS LOCK IS AWESOME HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT.</p><p>Yes, Mr. "Filter error," I AM yelling. Caps Lock is important to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CAPS LOCK IS AWESOME HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT.Yes , Mr. " Filter error , " I AM yelling .
Caps Lock is important to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CAPS LOCK IS AWESOME HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT.Yes, Mr. "Filter error," I AM yelling.
Caps Lock is important to me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767320</id>
	<title>Re:What about CTRL and Fc</title>
	<author>Klaruz</author>
	<datestamp>1263495240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why in the world don't you just map your control key to caps lock? I don't know if there's a way to do it in the BIOS, but it's remapped in linux/win7 on my T series and it works great.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why in the world do n't you just map your control key to caps lock ?
I do n't know if there 's a way to do it in the BIOS , but it 's remapped in linux/win7 on my T series and it works great .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why in the world don't you just map your control key to caps lock?
I don't know if there's a way to do it in the BIOS, but it's remapped in linux/win7 on my T series and it works great.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765660</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>MrMr</author>
	<datestamp>1263489720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Slam your head into the keyboard.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Slam your head into the keyboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slam your head into the keyboard.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764354</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766264</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>Intron</author>
	<datestamp>1263491640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You mean Ctrl-v?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean Ctrl-v ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean Ctrl-v?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765582</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766134</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263491280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>up up down down left right left right b a b a start</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>up up down down left right left right b a b a start</tokentext>
<sentencetext>up up down down left right left right b a b a start</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764218</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30769356</id>
	<title>Do anybody really need Lenovo anymore?</title>
	<author>jbrandv</author>
	<datestamp>1263501600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765472</id>
	<title>Re:They're remapping something else</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263489000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It saves the screen to the clipboard for later pasting!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It saves the screen to the clipboard for later pasting !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It saves the screen to the clipboard for later pasting!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764236</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765422</id>
	<title>Re:From having read TFA...</title>
	<author>Happler</author>
	<datestamp>1263488820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>See, the removing the default F* keys and making me do a Fn+F* to use it bothers me more then the Sysreq key.  I use the F* keys a lot on all my keyboards.</p><p>And BTW, using Apple as an example for what is right is questionable.Remember, long ago, they decided that end users did not need the ability to right click...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>See , the removing the default F * keys and making me do a Fn + F * to use it bothers me more then the Sysreq key .
I use the F * keys a lot on all my keyboards.And BTW , using Apple as an example for what is right is questionable.Remember , long ago , they decided that end users did not need the ability to right click.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See, the removing the default F* keys and making me do a Fn+F* to use it bothers me more then the Sysreq key.
I use the F* keys a lot on all my keyboards.And BTW, using Apple as an example for what is right is questionable.Remember, long ago, they decided that end users did not need the ability to right click...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764214</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767918</id>
	<title>Re:Debug key</title>
	<author>MindlessAutomata</author>
	<datestamp>1263497100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I laughed out loud at this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I laughed out loud at this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I laughed out loud at this.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766512</id>
	<title>Replacing it with</title>
	<author>fast turtle</author>
	<datestamp>1263492420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CHI 3000 Key. Soon enough you wont be able to get a Thinkpad with anything except a Mandarin Keyboard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CHI 3000 Key .
Soon enough you wont be able to get a Thinkpad with anything except a Mandarin Keyboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CHI 3000 Key.
Soon enough you wont be able to get a Thinkpad with anything except a Mandarin Keyboard.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765956</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1263490620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really wonder why it&rsquo;s not the default key to invoke printing, in all applications. If that does not make sense, then I don&rsquo;t know...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really wonder why it    s not the default key to invoke printing , in all applications .
If that does not make sense , then I don    t know.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really wonder why it’s not the default key to invoke printing, in all applications.
If that does not make sense, then I don’t know...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764240</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764236</id>
	<title>They're remapping something else</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263485220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So it's a handy debugger key for those who need one, functioning in the same key as print screen, but you need to hold alt key. What's the harm having it there, since it already is?</p></div><p>Because they're probably remapping print screen too. Notice how "print screen" doesn't cause ink to get committed to paper in either Windows or GNOME.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So it 's a handy debugger key for those who need one , functioning in the same key as print screen , but you need to hold alt key .
What 's the harm having it there , since it already is ? Because they 're probably remapping print screen too .
Notice how " print screen " does n't cause ink to get committed to paper in either Windows or GNOME .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So it's a handy debugger key for those who need one, functioning in the same key as print screen, but you need to hold alt key.
What's the harm having it there, since it already is?Because they're probably remapping print screen too.
Notice how "print screen" doesn't cause ink to get committed to paper in either Windows or GNOME.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764134</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764180</id>
	<title>Get rid of unnecessary one and zero keys</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263485040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I learned to type we didn't have these extra "one" and "zero" keys. We used lower case "ell" and upper case "Oh" and we were happy, dang it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I learned to type we did n't have these extra " one " and " zero " keys .
We used lower case " ell " and upper case " Oh " and we were happy , dang it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I learned to type we didn't have these extra "one" and "zero" keys.
We used lower case "ell" and upper case "Oh" and we were happy, dang it!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764720</id>
	<title>Re:Scroll Lock</title>
	<author>Nukenbar</author>
	<datestamp>1263486660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not much..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not much. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not much..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764432</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30771154</id>
	<title>Re:Debug key</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263465000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are other ways to Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are other ways to Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are other ways to Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764356</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30768260</id>
	<title>Re:Get rid of unnecessary one and zero keys</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1263497940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You had a zero? In my time, zero hadn't been invented yet. We had to program with "one" and "not one". And we had to invent "not" just so we could have the opposite of a one!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You had a zero ?
In my time , zero had n't been invented yet .
We had to program with " one " and " not one " .
And we had to invent " not " just so we could have the opposite of a one !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You had a zero?
In my time, zero hadn't been invented yet.
We had to program with "one" and "not one".
And we had to invent "not" just so we could have the opposite of a one!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764180</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30768102</id>
	<title>Noooo not my favourite key!</title>
	<author>w0mprat</author>
	<datestamp>1263497580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>PrintScreen/SysRq, Scroll Lock &amp; Pause/break are all very seldom used keys. However PrintScreen is used far more often than the others. I would go so far as to say it is the most legendary key on the windows keyboard.
<br> <br>
A single key screenshot button is a great OS feature, it'll save your bacon, and capture some epic hilarity, and make support a breeze. It's not used that often statistically, but it's used when crucial.
<br> <br>
While they are at it, do we really need 12 Function keys? I have seen a number of laptops with Fn + 1 to + as the function keys. Clever. Doesn't get in the way too much either, especially if the keyboard becomes more ergonomic overall. It makes room for them to put the printscreen back.</htmltext>
<tokenext>PrintScreen/SysRq , Scroll Lock &amp; Pause/break are all very seldom used keys .
However PrintScreen is used far more often than the others .
I would go so far as to say it is the most legendary key on the windows keyboard .
A single key screenshot button is a great OS feature , it 'll save your bacon , and capture some epic hilarity , and make support a breeze .
It 's not used that often statistically , but it 's used when crucial .
While they are at it , do we really need 12 Function keys ?
I have seen a number of laptops with Fn + 1 to + as the function keys .
Clever. Does n't get in the way too much either , especially if the keyboard becomes more ergonomic overall .
It makes room for them to put the printscreen back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PrintScreen/SysRq, Scroll Lock &amp; Pause/break are all very seldom used keys.
However PrintScreen is used far more often than the others.
I would go so far as to say it is the most legendary key on the windows keyboard.
A single key screenshot button is a great OS feature, it'll save your bacon, and capture some epic hilarity, and make support a breeze.
It's not used that often statistically, but it's used when crucial.
While they are at it, do we really need 12 Function keys?
I have seen a number of laptops with Fn + 1 to + as the function keys.
Clever. Doesn't get in the way too much either, especially if the keyboard becomes more ergonomic overall.
It makes room for them to put the printscreen back.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30768176</id>
	<title>Don't push it too far .. don't bring 'm on ideas..</title>
	<author>freaker\_TuC</author>
	<datestamp>1263497700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are already going to outlaw incandescent light bulbs soon, followed by halogens<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Don't bring them on ideas; as long as they outlaw those nasty blue leds, lighting up the entire room just for a status signal it's all fine for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are already going to outlaw incandescent light bulbs soon , followed by halogens ...Do n't bring them on ideas ; as long as they outlaw those nasty blue leds , lighting up the entire room just for a status signal it 's all fine for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are already going to outlaw incandescent light bulbs soon, followed by halogens ...Don't bring them on ideas; as long as they outlaw those nasty blue leds, lighting up the entire room just for a status signal it's all fine for me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764432</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765766</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1263490080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It&rsquo;s a nice big key.<br>That is why it&rsquo;s mapped on Mod3 in the <a href="http://www.neo-layout.org/" title="neo-layout.org">German NEO layout</a> [neo-layout.org].<br>(Caps Lock is still available by pressing the right Mod3 key when the left one is pressed.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It    s a nice big key.That is why it    s mapped on Mod3 in the German NEO layout [ neo-layout.org ] .
( Caps Lock is still available by pressing the right Mod3 key when the left one is pressed .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It’s a nice big key.That is why it’s mapped on Mod3 in the German NEO layout [neo-layout.org].
(Caps Lock is still available by pressing the right Mod3 key when the left one is pressed.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764234</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764806</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>stillnotelf</author>
	<datestamp>1263487020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My wife has a bizarre typing method - hunt and peck form, but muscle memory provides "touch-typing" ability to not look at the keyboard.  She uses capslock-letter-capslock to get single capital letters, instead of holding shift.  I guess it makes it faster since she only uses two fingers, she can keep them moving instead of holding one down?  I've never understood how she can stand it.

<p>
Is there something specific about AOL you mention, or just AOLlers perogatively?  (Like maybe the old AOL software didn't allow the shift key to work or something?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My wife has a bizarre typing method - hunt and peck form , but muscle memory provides " touch-typing " ability to not look at the keyboard .
She uses capslock-letter-capslock to get single capital letters , instead of holding shift .
I guess it makes it faster since she only uses two fingers , she can keep them moving instead of holding one down ?
I 've never understood how she can stand it .
Is there something specific about AOL you mention , or just AOLlers perogatively ?
( Like maybe the old AOL software did n't allow the shift key to work or something ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My wife has a bizarre typing method - hunt and peck form, but muscle memory provides "touch-typing" ability to not look at the keyboard.
She uses capslock-letter-capslock to get single capital letters, instead of holding shift.
I guess it makes it faster since she only uses two fingers, she can keep them moving instead of holding one down?
I've never understood how she can stand it.
Is there something specific about AOL you mention, or just AOLlers perogatively?
(Like maybe the old AOL software didn't allow the shift key to work or something?
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764234</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764470</id>
	<title>They've already been removing keys...</title>
	<author>wandazulu</author>
	<datestamp>1263486000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...since I can't find the "any" key on my keyboard anywhere!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...since I ca n't find the " any " key on my keyboard anywhere !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...since I can't find the "any" key on my keyboard anywhere!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766980</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263494040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or better yet, instead of ditching a key that you obviously have no use for but a good chunk of other people do, move it under the shift key, double tap the key to lock, double tap to unlock.<br>Now a more useful key could take its place.  A common replacement is Delete from what i hear.</p><p>Stop trying to enforce YOUR dislikes on others.  And yes, i typed "YOUR" with Shift<br>Also, bold is overrated, in this house we type in caps to enforce stress on words.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or better yet , instead of ditching a key that you obviously have no use for but a good chunk of other people do , move it under the shift key , double tap the key to lock , double tap to unlock.Now a more useful key could take its place .
A common replacement is Delete from what i hear.Stop trying to enforce YOUR dislikes on others .
And yes , i typed " YOUR " with ShiftAlso , bold is overrated , in this house we type in caps to enforce stress on words .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or better yet, instead of ditching a key that you obviously have no use for but a good chunk of other people do, move it under the shift key, double tap the key to lock, double tap to unlock.Now a more useful key could take its place.
A common replacement is Delete from what i hear.Stop trying to enforce YOUR dislikes on others.
And yes, i typed "YOUR" with ShiftAlso, bold is overrated, in this house we type in caps to enforce stress on words.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764234</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30772878</id>
	<title>Re:Print Screen</title>
	<author>complete loony</author>
	<datestamp>1263472920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And if you need the text out of a standard messagebox, use Ctrl+C. That's worked since win2k sp3 from memory but it should be better documented.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And if you need the text out of a standard messagebox , use Ctrl + C .
That 's worked since win2k sp3 from memory but it should be better documented .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if you need the text out of a standard messagebox, use Ctrl+C.
That's worked since win2k sp3 from memory but it should be better documented.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764476</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767072</id>
	<title>Re:It's there to tell the OS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263494340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>is mandated to mean nothing, therefore it can mean anything, or indeed, everything.</p></div><p>So, it's a speech by a politician....</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>is mandated to mean nothing , therefore it can mean anything , or indeed , everything.So , it 's a speech by a politician... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is mandated to mean nothing, therefore it can mean anything, or indeed, everything.So, it's a speech by a politician....
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764464</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764874</id>
	<title>Re:They're remapping something else</title>
	<author>thelonious</author>
	<datestamp>1263487200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hey, did anyone mention that "print screen" copies the screen to the clipboard?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , did anyone mention that " print screen " copies the screen to the clipboard ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, did anyone mention that "print screen" copies the screen to the clipboard?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764236</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765006</id>
	<title>Re:Debug key</title>
	<author>grub</author>
	<datestamp>1263487620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><br> <i>I use the SysRq key on an almost daily basis whenever I screw up a kernel compile</i> <br> <br>Hey, how is Gentoo nowadays?<br> <br>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use the SysRq key on an almost daily basis whenever I screw up a kernel compile Hey , how is Gentoo nowadays ?
.</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I use the SysRq key on an almost daily basis whenever I screw up a kernel compile  Hey, how is Gentoo nowadays?
.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764492</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764172</id>
	<title>How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263485040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Caps Lock<br>Num Lock</p><p>Both of these keys should die a firey death before you get rid of the SysRq key, which is very useful for Linux users.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Caps LockNum LockBoth of these keys should die a firey death before you get rid of the SysRq key , which is very useful for Linux users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Caps LockNum LockBoth of these keys should die a firey death before you get rid of the SysRq key, which is very useful for Linux users.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765106</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>z\_gringo</author>
	<datestamp>1263487860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ok, I totally thought you were just making that up.  It does, in fact reboot my system.   Thanks. (I think)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , I totally thought you were just making that up .
It does , in fact reboot my system .
Thanks. ( I think )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, I totally thought you were just making that up.
It does, in fact reboot my system.
Thanks. (I think)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30770354</id>
	<title>And why stop there?</title>
	<author>profaneone</author>
	<datestamp>1263462240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FTA: "And why stop there? Lenovo has also asked itself how often users press the F Function keys. On the new laptops, the F Function buttons are reduced to secondary controls"</p><p>Cool!  I can't wait until they evaluate the usage on the rest of the keys in order to put the most used key combinations closer together<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FTA : " And why stop there ?
Lenovo has also asked itself how often users press the F Function keys .
On the new laptops , the F Function buttons are reduced to secondary controls " Cool !
I ca n't wait until they evaluate the usage on the rest of the keys in order to put the most used key combinations closer together ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FTA: "And why stop there?
Lenovo has also asked itself how often users press the F Function keys.
On the new laptops, the F Function buttons are reduced to secondary controls"Cool!
I can't wait until they evaluate the usage on the rest of the keys in order to put the most used key combinations closer together ;)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766694</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>Kremit</author>
	<datestamp>1263493020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The <a href="http://www.typematrix.com/" title="typematrix.com" rel="nofollow">TypeMatrix keyboard</a> [typematrix.com] I have at both home and work (Dvorak model highly recommended!) uses a large Shift key in place of caps lock. There is a caps lock but it's deliberately placed on the right side of the keyboard. I just wish it was the CTRL key that was larger instead, but it's still a great design.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The TypeMatrix keyboard [ typematrix.com ] I have at both home and work ( Dvorak model highly recommended !
) uses a large Shift key in place of caps lock .
There is a caps lock but it 's deliberately placed on the right side of the keyboard .
I just wish it was the CTRL key that was larger instead , but it 's still a great design .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The TypeMatrix keyboard [typematrix.com] I have at both home and work (Dvorak model highly recommended!
) uses a large Shift key in place of caps lock.
There is a caps lock but it's deliberately placed on the right side of the keyboard.
I just wish it was the CTRL key that was larger instead, but it's still a great design.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764234</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30776302</id>
	<title>But...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263546960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...will they remove it from the Dvorak version?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...will they remove it from the Dvorak version ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...will they remove it from the Dvorak version?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767964</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>LainTouko</author>
	<datestamp>1263497220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's no problem with the existence of the Caps Lock key, wanting to type a long string of capitals is a perfectly reasonable use case. The problem is its undeservedly prominent position. If Caps Lock was up next to Scroll Lock or thereabouts, nobody would complain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's no problem with the existence of the Caps Lock key , wanting to type a long string of capitals is a perfectly reasonable use case .
The problem is its undeservedly prominent position .
If Caps Lock was up next to Scroll Lock or thereabouts , nobody would complain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's no problem with the existence of the Caps Lock key, wanting to type a long string of capitals is a perfectly reasonable use case.
The problem is its undeservedly prominent position.
If Caps Lock was up next to Scroll Lock or thereabouts, nobody would complain.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764234</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764694</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>rickb928</author>
	<datestamp>1263486600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The only people I know who use the Caps Lock Key are AOLers."</p><p>You need to get out of the basement more.  There is more to the world than former AOLers.</p><p>I use CAPS LOCK regularly to input data in CAPS.  Duh.  So not all the apps I use know enough to shift for me when it is needed, and not when it is not, as in they can't predict the use of my data.  I also use it in queries, where the editor doesn't force caps for me.  It's big world out there, with people doing things you don't know about.</p><p>Honestly, CAPS LOCK has a useful function.  Ditch Scroll Lock first, if you must.</p><p>Of course, does the Pause/Break key do anything at all?  Missing an opportunity there, I bet, but does someone use it? Dunno.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The only people I know who use the Caps Lock Key are AOLers .
" You need to get out of the basement more .
There is more to the world than former AOLers.I use CAPS LOCK regularly to input data in CAPS .
Duh. So not all the apps I use know enough to shift for me when it is needed , and not when it is not , as in they ca n't predict the use of my data .
I also use it in queries , where the editor does n't force caps for me .
It 's big world out there , with people doing things you do n't know about.Honestly , CAPS LOCK has a useful function .
Ditch Scroll Lock first , if you must.Of course , does the Pause/Break key do anything at all ?
Missing an opportunity there , I bet , but does someone use it ?
Dunno .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The only people I know who use the Caps Lock Key are AOLers.
"You need to get out of the basement more.
There is more to the world than former AOLers.I use CAPS LOCK regularly to input data in CAPS.
Duh.  So not all the apps I use know enough to shift for me when it is needed, and not when it is not, as in they can't predict the use of my data.
I also use it in queries, where the editor doesn't force caps for me.
It's big world out there, with people doing things you don't know about.Honestly, CAPS LOCK has a useful function.
Ditch Scroll Lock first, if you must.Of course, does the Pause/Break key do anything at all?
Missing an opportunity there, I bet, but does someone use it?
Dunno.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764234</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764564</id>
	<title>I had to look</title>
	<author>MBGMorden</author>
	<datestamp>1263486240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I honestly had to look down at the keyboard to see if there was such a key printed on mine.  There is, but I certainly never noticed it before (I use print screen which is the same key, but I just press it without thinking - I don't read the text<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)).  Truthfully, though I once used them back in DOS, I can't say that I've used Scroll Lock or Pause/Break in about 15 years for their intended purposes either.  I say "intended purposes" because until about 3 years ago the KVM I was running allowed you to tap scroll lock twice and then use your arrow keys to select the active computer, but on my new unit I just have it on the desk and use the on-unit switches to switch systems.</p><p>Truthfully though, when they start to remove keys or rearrange the layouts, it usually throws me off.  Sure, if you just removed those two keys, that'd be fine, but I'm pretty used to the spacing and positioning of the traditional IBM 104-key layout.  If removing some keys means changing that layout around to "save space" or something similar then I don't want it.  I'm stuck in my ways I guess though.  Desktop keyboards that feel like laptop keyboards seem to be all the rage now and I still spring for true mechanical switch units (there's modern ones out there if you look).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I honestly had to look down at the keyboard to see if there was such a key printed on mine .
There is , but I certainly never noticed it before ( I use print screen which is the same key , but I just press it without thinking - I do n't read the text : ) ) .
Truthfully , though I once used them back in DOS , I ca n't say that I 've used Scroll Lock or Pause/Break in about 15 years for their intended purposes either .
I say " intended purposes " because until about 3 years ago the KVM I was running allowed you to tap scroll lock twice and then use your arrow keys to select the active computer , but on my new unit I just have it on the desk and use the on-unit switches to switch systems.Truthfully though , when they start to remove keys or rearrange the layouts , it usually throws me off .
Sure , if you just removed those two keys , that 'd be fine , but I 'm pretty used to the spacing and positioning of the traditional IBM 104-key layout .
If removing some keys means changing that layout around to " save space " or something similar then I do n't want it .
I 'm stuck in my ways I guess though .
Desktop keyboards that feel like laptop keyboards seem to be all the rage now and I still spring for true mechanical switch units ( there 's modern ones out there if you look ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I honestly had to look down at the keyboard to see if there was such a key printed on mine.
There is, but I certainly never noticed it before (I use print screen which is the same key, but I just press it without thinking - I don't read the text :)).
Truthfully, though I once used them back in DOS, I can't say that I've used Scroll Lock or Pause/Break in about 15 years for their intended purposes either.
I say "intended purposes" because until about 3 years ago the KVM I was running allowed you to tap scroll lock twice and then use your arrow keys to select the active computer, but on my new unit I just have it on the desk and use the on-unit switches to switch systems.Truthfully though, when they start to remove keys or rearrange the layouts, it usually throws me off.
Sure, if you just removed those two keys, that'd be fine, but I'm pretty used to the spacing and positioning of the traditional IBM 104-key layout.
If removing some keys means changing that layout around to "save space" or something similar then I don't want it.
I'm stuck in my ways I guess though.
Desktop keyboards that feel like laptop keyboards seem to be all the rage now and I still spring for true mechanical switch units (there's modern ones out there if you look).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764834</id>
	<title>Re:I've used it</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1263487080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You obviously never had to enter game cheats that required you to press like 11 keys at the same time (and NO other keys).</p><p>Hand your geek card in on your way out, thank you.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You obviously never had to enter game cheats that required you to press like 11 keys at the same time ( and NO other keys ) .Hand your geek card in on your way out , thank you .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You obviously never had to enter game cheats that required you to press like 11 keys at the same time (and NO other keys).Hand your geek card in on your way out, thank you.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765210</id>
	<title>Re:Goodbye to the ThinkPad brand.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263488160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ThinkPad jumped the shark when it was sold to the Chinese.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ThinkPad jumped the shark when it was sold to the Chinese .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ThinkPad jumped the shark when it was sold to the Chinese.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764398</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765558</id>
	<title>Re:It's there to tell the OS</title>
	<author>itsdapead</author>
	<datestamp>1263489360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>In fact, to *urgently* tell the OS that the SysRq.</p></div><p>My first computer, an OSI Superboard 2 had a key for that: "Break". I think it was wired to the reset pin of the 6502.

</p><p>That got its attention<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In fact , to * urgently * tell the OS that the SysRq.My first computer , an OSI Superboard 2 had a key for that : " Break " .
I think it was wired to the reset pin of the 6502 .
That got its attention : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In fact, to *urgently* tell the OS that the SysRq.My first computer, an OSI Superboard 2 had a key for that: "Break".
I think it was wired to the reset pin of the 6502.
That got its attention :-)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764464</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766636</id>
	<title>Re:How about the even more useless keys?</title>
	<author>eldepeche</author>
	<datestamp>1263492900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know, you can use those keys for other things...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , you can use those keys for other things.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, you can use those keys for other things...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764296</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30767118</id>
	<title>Re:What key again?</title>
	<author>MoreDruid</author>
	<datestamp>1263494520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well my chocolate Logitech keyboard \_does\_ have one.
<p>So there!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well my chocolate Logitech keyboard \ _does \ _ have one .
So there !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well my chocolate Logitech keyboard \_does\_ have one.
So there!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764676</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764522</id>
	<title>If it ain't broke ...</title>
	<author>vtcodger</author>
	<datestamp>1263486120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It really should not be necessary to point out that removing ANY key from the standard keyboard is a really strange idea.  By now there will be thousands of programs here and there that use that key for something.  And a keyboard without the key will not work with any of them.  Is the idea that things that are not broken should not be busted without really good reasons utterly alien to the programming/engineering mind?</p><p>Assuming that "mind" is the right term.</p><p>If there is an easily discoverable way to generate the SysReq key codes on this fine new keyboard, disregard rant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It really should not be necessary to point out that removing ANY key from the standard keyboard is a really strange idea .
By now there will be thousands of programs here and there that use that key for something .
And a keyboard without the key will not work with any of them .
Is the idea that things that are not broken should not be busted without really good reasons utterly alien to the programming/engineering mind ? Assuming that " mind " is the right term.If there is an easily discoverable way to generate the SysReq key codes on this fine new keyboard , disregard rant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It really should not be necessary to point out that removing ANY key from the standard keyboard is a really strange idea.
By now there will be thousands of programs here and there that use that key for something.
And a keyboard without the key will not work with any of them.
Is the idea that things that are not broken should not be busted without really good reasons utterly alien to the programming/engineering mind?Assuming that "mind" is the right term.If there is an easily discoverable way to generate the SysReq key codes on this fine new keyboard, disregard rant.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764716</id>
	<title>Re:Caps Lock Key</title>
	<author>jgtg32a</author>
	<datestamp>1263486660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rebind it to CTRL and learn to love the CAPS key</p><p><a href="http://johnhaller.com/jh/useful\_stuff/disable\_caps\_lock/" title="johnhaller.com">http://johnhaller.com/jh/useful\_stuff/disable\_caps\_lock/</a> [johnhaller.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rebind it to CTRL and learn to love the CAPS keyhttp : //johnhaller.com/jh/useful \ _stuff/disable \ _caps \ _lock/ [ johnhaller.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rebind it to CTRL and learn to love the CAPS keyhttp://johnhaller.com/jh/useful\_stuff/disable\_caps\_lock/ [johnhaller.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764934</id>
	<title>Re:Laptops</title>
	<author>Fujisawa Sensei</author>
	<datestamp>1263487380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Anyone who needs a Caps Lock Key for legitimate technical reasons can buy a specialized keyboard for that purpose.</p></div><p>And install it into the laptop's chassis how?</p></div><p>How about using the USB port?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone who needs a Caps Lock Key for legitimate technical reasons can buy a specialized keyboard for that purpose.And install it into the laptop 's chassis how ? How about using the USB port ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone who needs a Caps Lock Key for legitimate technical reasons can buy a specialized keyboard for that purpose.And install it into the laptop's chassis how?How about using the USB port?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764310</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766082</id>
	<title>Doesn't anybody here use a KVM</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263491040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A number of KVM's use this for switching computers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A number of KVM 's use this for switching computers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A number of KVM's use this for switching computers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30766342</id>
	<title>Re:Debug key</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1263491820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you are compiling kernels that often, then you are either a kernel developer or an idiot.  If you are a kernel developer, then you can just make your kernel intercept some other key combination.  If you are an idiot, then there's no reason for the rest of the world to cater to you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you are compiling kernels that often , then you are either a kernel developer or an idiot .
If you are a kernel developer , then you can just make your kernel intercept some other key combination .
If you are an idiot , then there 's no reason for the rest of the world to cater to you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you are compiling kernels that often, then you are either a kernel developer or an idiot.
If you are a kernel developer, then you can just make your kernel intercept some other key combination.
If you are an idiot, then there's no reason for the rest of the world to cater to you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764492</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764686</id>
	<title>So they basically took a look at MacBook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263486540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and stole the layout exactly.  Great idea, there's a reason Apple is doing so well (Usability research).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and stole the layout exactly .
Great idea , there 's a reason Apple is doing so well ( Usability research ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and stole the layout exactly.
Great idea, there's a reason Apple is doing so well (Usability research).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30770910</id>
	<title>Re:This is not your father's Thinkpad Lenevo!</title>
	<author>adiposity</author>
	<datestamp>1263464100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My development environment for an old ERP system expects a lot of things to be in CAPS.  Some *can* be lower case, but a lot can't.  I turn on caps lock when using this system and rarely have an issue.  The only annoying part is typing in human readable text in my code, which I want to use mixed-case.  At that point, I either use inverted shifting (shifting when I want lower case) or turn off caps temporarily.</p><p>-Dan</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My development environment for an old ERP system expects a lot of things to be in CAPS .
Some * can * be lower case , but a lot ca n't .
I turn on caps lock when using this system and rarely have an issue .
The only annoying part is typing in human readable text in my code , which I want to use mixed-case .
At that point , I either use inverted shifting ( shifting when I want lower case ) or turn off caps temporarily.-Dan</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My development environment for an old ERP system expects a lot of things to be in CAPS.
Some *can* be lower case, but a lot can't.
I turn on caps lock when using this system and rarely have an issue.
The only annoying part is typing in human readable text in my code, which I want to use mixed-case.
At that point, I either use inverted shifting (shifting when I want lower case) or turn off caps temporarily.-Dan</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30764546</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_14_1421210.30765700</id>
	<title>Lenovo keyboards</title>
	<author>piojo</author>
	<datestamp>1263489840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love the keyboard on my 2.5 year old thinkpad. Especially the dedicated "back" and "forward" buttons, which I've remapped to more useful functions. In fact, I think the keyboard is almost a "killer feature" that none of their competitors can match. If they start removing buttons I use, I may be able to make my next laptop a system76 or clevo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love the keyboard on my 2.5 year old thinkpad .
Especially the dedicated " back " and " forward " buttons , which I 've remapped to more useful functions .
In fact , I think the keyboard is almost a " killer feature " that none of their competitors can match .
If they start removing buttons I use , I may be able to make my next laptop a system76 or clevo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love the keyboard on my 2.5 year old thinkpad.
Especially the dedicated "back" and "forward" buttons, which I've remapped to more useful functions.
In fact, I think the keyboard is almost a "killer feature" that none of their competitors can match.
If they start removing buttons I use, I may be able to make my next laptop a system76 or clevo.</sentencetext>
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