<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_13_1953238</id>
	<title>Using Outlook From Orbit</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1263369840000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Pigskin-Referee writes with this excerpt from Office Watch: <i>"On the Space Shuttle and the International Space Station they use Microsoft Outlook 2003, but <a href="http://news.office-watch.com/t/n.aspx?articleid=1329&amp;zoneid=12">not quite in the same way that us earthbound Earthlings do</a>. The space shuttle Atlantis is orbiting the earth right now and the crew exchange emails with the ground a few times each day. Bandwidth is a constraint and you don't want the busy crewmembers bothered with spam or unnecessary messages so NASA has a special system in place. The crew use fairly standard laptops running Microsoft Outlook (currently Outlook 2003) with Exchange Server as the email host, but they don't link to the server using any of the standard methods."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pigskin-Referee writes with this excerpt from Office Watch : " On the Space Shuttle and the International Space Station they use Microsoft Outlook 2003 , but not quite in the same way that us earthbound Earthlings do .
The space shuttle Atlantis is orbiting the earth right now and the crew exchange emails with the ground a few times each day .
Bandwidth is a constraint and you do n't want the busy crewmembers bothered with spam or unnecessary messages so NASA has a special system in place .
The crew use fairly standard laptops running Microsoft Outlook ( currently Outlook 2003 ) with Exchange Server as the email host , but they do n't link to the server using any of the standard methods .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pigskin-Referee writes with this excerpt from Office Watch: "On the Space Shuttle and the International Space Station they use Microsoft Outlook 2003, but not quite in the same way that us earthbound Earthlings do.
The space shuttle Atlantis is orbiting the earth right now and the crew exchange emails with the ground a few times each day.
Bandwidth is a constraint and you don't want the busy crewmembers bothered with spam or unnecessary messages so NASA has a special system in place.
The crew use fairly standard laptops running Microsoft Outlook (currently Outlook 2003) with Exchange Server as the email host, but they don't link to the server using any of the standard methods.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30759682</id>
	<title>Atlantis is on the Ground</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263393420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The summary isn't clear about this, but the quoted article is from mid-November.  Atlantis is not currently orbiting--she's in processing for STS-132.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The summary is n't clear about this , but the quoted article is from mid-November .
Atlantis is not currently orbiting--she 's in processing for STS-132 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The summary isn't clear about this, but the quoted article is from mid-November.
Atlantis is not currently orbiting--she's in processing for STS-132.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30757810</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like a bad idea to me</title>
	<author>PsychoSlashDot</author>
	<datestamp>1263384540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If a 'Loss of Signal' can interrupt a POP session, wouldn't it also interrupt a file upload? Couldn't they just POP into the server on Earth once a day to grab their emails to be stored in a simple mbox or some such?</p></div><p>No.  I could be wrong, but while something like FTP supports resume commands, I don't believe POP3 does.  As far as I know, if you get 99\% done RETR for a given e-mail and your socket drops, you have to RETR it again, from byte 0.</p><p>I also assume that there's some latency issues involved with all of this.  A straight RPC over HTTP connection to the Exchange server would obsolete all of this, but it's a really chatty protocol.  I imagine they fell back to fundamentals for a good reason.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If a 'Loss of Signal ' can interrupt a POP session , would n't it also interrupt a file upload ?
Could n't they just POP into the server on Earth once a day to grab their emails to be stored in a simple mbox or some such ? No .
I could be wrong , but while something like FTP supports resume commands , I do n't believe POP3 does .
As far as I know , if you get 99 \ % done RETR for a given e-mail and your socket drops , you have to RETR it again , from byte 0.I also assume that there 's some latency issues involved with all of this .
A straight RPC over HTTP connection to the Exchange server would obsolete all of this , but it 's a really chatty protocol .
I imagine they fell back to fundamentals for a good reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If a 'Loss of Signal' can interrupt a POP session, wouldn't it also interrupt a file upload?
Couldn't they just POP into the server on Earth once a day to grab their emails to be stored in a simple mbox or some such?No.
I could be wrong, but while something like FTP supports resume commands, I don't believe POP3 does.
As far as I know, if you get 99\% done RETR for a given e-mail and your socket drops, you have to RETR it again, from byte 0.I also assume that there's some latency issues involved with all of this.
A straight RPC over HTTP connection to the Exchange server would obsolete all of this, but it's a really chatty protocol.
I imagine they fell back to fundamentals for a good reason.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756058</id>
	<title>In Other Words...</title>
	<author>MightyMartian</author>
	<datestamp>1263376560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In other words, it's a really shitty reimplementation of UUCP mail transiting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In other words , it 's a really shitty reimplementation of UUCP mail transiting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In other words, it's a really shitty reimplementation of UUCP mail transiting.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756266</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like a bad idea to me</title>
	<author>LordKronos</author>
	<datestamp>1263377460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they have minimal bandwidth, then pop probably isn't ideal because of the back and forth communication. Also, I would suspect that to minimize transfer time, their file transfer mechanism uses compression (email is HIGHLY compressible). As far as I know, there's no way to do pop compression (though if the compression were implemented at the connection/tunneling level, then I suppose that would be transparent)</p><p>As for your other question, there are resumable file upload/download methods.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they have minimal bandwidth , then pop probably is n't ideal because of the back and forth communication .
Also , I would suspect that to minimize transfer time , their file transfer mechanism uses compression ( email is HIGHLY compressible ) .
As far as I know , there 's no way to do pop compression ( though if the compression were implemented at the connection/tunneling level , then I suppose that would be transparent ) As for your other question , there are resumable file upload/download methods .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they have minimal bandwidth, then pop probably isn't ideal because of the back and forth communication.
Also, I would suspect that to minimize transfer time, their file transfer mechanism uses compression (email is HIGHLY compressible).
As far as I know, there's no way to do pop compression (though if the compression were implemented at the connection/tunneling level, then I suppose that would be transparent)As for your other question, there are resumable file upload/download methods.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755690</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30759396</id>
	<title>Re:This hurt to read.</title>
	<author>aXis100</author>
	<datestamp>1263391500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whilst they are sending the while inbox/outbox every time, they are also manually moving everything from the inbox to their personal folders whenever something arrives, so that the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.ost is practically empty.  Only the new incoming or outgoing mails remain.</p><p>Still, it's a shitty method.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whilst they are sending the while inbox/outbox every time , they are also manually moving everything from the inbox to their personal folders whenever something arrives , so that the .ost is practically empty .
Only the new incoming or outgoing mails remain.Still , it 's a shitty method .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whilst they are sending the while inbox/outbox every time, they are also manually moving everything from the inbox to their personal folders whenever something arrives, so that the .ost is practically empty.
Only the new incoming or outgoing mails remain.Still, it's a shitty method.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756462</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756952</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263380520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You may jest, but you can do a lot more, more easily, from a command line than a GUI on any platform. Even Windows. Try to</p><p>ren antique???.jpg desk???.jpg</p><p>in File Manager (or whatever they call it these days). If you have 500 pictures of antique desks named antique001, antique001, etc it would take forever to rename them desk001, desk002, etc in a GUI.</p></div><p>That was true in like 1995. You can highlite the batch and rename one of the files and it appends the numbers on the rest starting with at least WinXP, maybe before then.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You may jest , but you can do a lot more , more easily , from a command line than a GUI on any platform .
Even Windows .
Try toren antique ? ?
? .jpg desk ? ?
? .jpgin File Manager ( or whatever they call it these days ) .
If you have 500 pictures of antique desks named antique001 , antique001 , etc it would take forever to rename them desk001 , desk002 , etc in a GUI.That was true in like 1995 .
You can highlite the batch and rename one of the files and it appends the numbers on the rest starting with at least WinXP , maybe before then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may jest, but you can do a lot more, more easily, from a command line than a GUI on any platform.
Even Windows.
Try toren antique??
?.jpg desk??
?.jpgin File Manager (or whatever they call it these days).
If you have 500 pictures of antique desks named antique001, antique001, etc it would take forever to rename them desk001, desk002, etc in a GUI.That was true in like 1995.
You can highlite the batch and rename one of the files and it appends the numbers on the rest starting with at least WinXP, maybe before then.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755988</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755778</id>
	<title>Re:The lengths they go to...</title>
	<author>Nuskrad</author>
	<datestamp>1263375480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But I assume they use analogue radio transmissions for that, not data</htmltext>
<tokenext>But I assume they use analogue radio transmissions for that , not data</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I assume they use analogue radio transmissions for that, not data</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755618</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756024</id>
	<title>Meeting Request</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263376440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From:  Oleg Kotov <br>To: CC Ops Ground Control<br>Subject: Check out what the toothpaste does in zero-G!</p><p>Location: COLBERT Room<br>Start Time: 2009-01-13 1745<br>End Time: 2009-01-13 1800</p><p>[Accept] [Decline] [Decline with comment] [Delegate]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From : Oleg Kotov To : CC Ops Ground ControlSubject : Check out what the toothpaste does in zero-G ! Location : COLBERT RoomStart Time : 2009-01-13 1745End Time : 2009-01-13 1800 [ Accept ] [ Decline ] [ Decline with comment ] [ Delegate ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From:  Oleg Kotov To: CC Ops Ground ControlSubject: Check out what the toothpaste does in zero-G!Location: COLBERT RoomStart Time: 2009-01-13 1745End Time: 2009-01-13 1800[Accept] [Decline] [Decline with comment] [Delegate]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755690</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755754</id>
	<title>Re:Bandwidth constraint?</title>
	<author>gnutrino</author>
	<datestamp>1263375420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Surely this is a latency rather than bandwidth issue</htmltext>
<tokenext>Surely this is a latency rather than bandwidth issue</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surely this is a latency rather than bandwidth issue</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755288</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755554</id>
	<title>Re:80's tech</title>
	<author>Em Emalb</author>
	<datestamp>1263374700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, but it works.  Don't see an issue here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , but it works .
Do n't see an issue here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, but it works.
Don't see an issue here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755316</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30763650</id>
	<title>hmmm...terminal based...?</title>
	<author>CremIon</author>
	<datestamp>1263482640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the objective is to save bandwidth...whatever happened to pine/elm/mutt/emacs ?!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the objective is to save bandwidth...whatever happened to pine/elm/mutt/emacs ? !
: D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the objective is to save bandwidth...whatever happened to pine/elm/mutt/emacs ?!
:D</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755722</id>
	<title>Time Zone?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263375240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do they have something to automatically change that every 30 seconds?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do they have something to automatically change that every 30 seconds ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do they have something to automatically change that every 30 seconds?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30762448</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>SharpFang</author>
	<datestamp>1263471000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>You think that just displaying a GUI consumes energy? Please provide a citation. Any GUI on a modern OS doesn't require any processing power for displaying something on the screen that is static.</i></p><p>Displaying GUI itself is several thousands, if not millions of lines of code. Same goes for any "modern OS".</p><p>Command line driven email client can be implemented on a low-power 1KHz PIC microcontroller that takes a few microamperes of energy to operate. Static LCD display, built-in RS232 at 9600 for communication, and you have a device that takes under 1 milliampere at 5V, that is 0.005 watts to operate (when not in sleep mode where it takes 1\% of that.)</p><p>I'm not saying it's practical or reasonable, but if your point is minimizing energy requirements, there is a point where GUI has to go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You think that just displaying a GUI consumes energy ?
Please provide a citation .
Any GUI on a modern OS does n't require any processing power for displaying something on the screen that is static.Displaying GUI itself is several thousands , if not millions of lines of code .
Same goes for any " modern OS " .Command line driven email client can be implemented on a low-power 1KHz PIC microcontroller that takes a few microamperes of energy to operate .
Static LCD display , built-in RS232 at 9600 for communication , and you have a device that takes under 1 milliampere at 5V , that is 0.005 watts to operate ( when not in sleep mode where it takes 1 \ % of that .
) I 'm not saying it 's practical or reasonable , but if your point is minimizing energy requirements , there is a point where GUI has to go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You think that just displaying a GUI consumes energy?
Please provide a citation.
Any GUI on a modern OS doesn't require any processing power for displaying something on the screen that is static.Displaying GUI itself is several thousands, if not millions of lines of code.
Same goes for any "modern OS".Command line driven email client can be implemented on a low-power 1KHz PIC microcontroller that takes a few microamperes of energy to operate.
Static LCD display, built-in RS232 at 9600 for communication, and you have a device that takes under 1 milliampere at 5V, that is 0.005 watts to operate (when not in sleep mode where it takes 1\% of that.
)I'm not saying it's practical or reasonable, but if your point is minimizing energy requirements, there is a point where GUI has to go.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30758478</id>
	<title>Aliquid melius quam pessimum optimum non est</title>
	<author>bugs2squash</author>
	<datestamp>1263387240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>or... just because it's not the worst, it doesn't make it the best.<br>

My god - now NASA controls the fortunes at the foot of the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. page !</htmltext>
<tokenext>or... just because it 's not the worst , it does n't make it the best .
My god - now NASA controls the fortunes at the foot of the / .
page !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or... just because it's not the worst, it doesn't make it the best.
My god - now NASA controls the fortunes at the foot of the /.
page !</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30760416</id>
	<title>Don't do it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263400080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In all probability this would be a most effective means of attracting Borg cubes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In all probability this would be a most effective means of attracting Borg cubes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In all probability this would be a most effective means of attracting Borg cubes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755408</id>
	<title>Wouldn't standard solutions be cheaper and easier?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263374040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not just run a normal mailserver with a simple script to deliver any messages in the files uploaded? No need for the astronauts to mess with weird outlook files, just hit "check mail" on whatever client they prefer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not just run a normal mailserver with a simple script to deliver any messages in the files uploaded ?
No need for the astronauts to mess with weird outlook files , just hit " check mail " on whatever client they prefer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not just run a normal mailserver with a simple script to deliver any messages in the files uploaded?
No need for the astronauts to mess with weird outlook files, just hit "check mail" on whatever client they prefer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30759446</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>Nutria</author>
	<datestamp>1263391800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Because the terminal window on your monitor takes less energy to display? Nope, thats not true without using an LED display (not LED backlight, the entire thing has to be LED or it doesn't make a difference).</i></p><p>I've always wondered if a black background uses less energy on an LCD monitor than white.</p><p>Not that it would make much difference in my case, since all of my urxvt windows are bg white.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because the terminal window on your monitor takes less energy to display ?
Nope , thats not true without using an LED display ( not LED backlight , the entire thing has to be LED or it does n't make a difference ) .I 've always wondered if a black background uses less energy on an LCD monitor than white.Not that it would make much difference in my case , since all of my urxvt windows are bg white .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because the terminal window on your monitor takes less energy to display?
Nope, thats not true without using an LED display (not LED backlight, the entire thing has to be LED or it doesn't make a difference).I've always wondered if a black background uses less energy on an LCD monitor than white.Not that it would make much difference in my case, since all of my urxvt windows are bg white.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30757142</id>
	<title>Interesting solution to NASA budget cuts...</title>
	<author>ArsenneLupin</author>
	<datestamp>1263381360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... so NASA taps into Micro$oft's advertisement budget instead!<p>
Where most here see only sheer stupidity, what this really is is an astute solution to a very real problem: tight-ass goverments who have no dime to spare for research!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... so NASA taps into Micro $ oft 's advertisement budget instead !
Where most here see only sheer stupidity , what this really is is an astute solution to a very real problem : tight-ass goverments who have no dime to spare for research !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... so NASA taps into Micro$oft's advertisement budget instead!
Where most here see only sheer stupidity, what this really is is an astute solution to a very real problem: tight-ass goverments who have no dime to spare for research!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755898</id>
	<title>then how?</title>
	<author>Fuzzums</author>
	<datestamp>1263375900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"...but they don't link to the server using any of the standard methods."</p><p>I bet they link to the server using WIFI...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...but they do n't link to the server using any of the standard methods .
" I bet they link to the server using WIFI.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"...but they don't link to the server using any of the standard methods.
"I bet they link to the server using WIFI...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756250</id>
	<title>You have it wrong</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1263377340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Soviet space station, bandwith constrains YOU!</p><p>(was that the first "in soviet russia" joke that was actually factally correct?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Soviet space station , bandwith constrains YOU !
( was that the first " in soviet russia " joke that was actually factally correct ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Soviet space station, bandwith constrains YOU!
(was that the first "in soviet russia" joke that was actually factally correct?
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755288</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755988</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263376260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You may jest, but you can do a lot more, more easily, from a command line than a GUI on any platform. Even Windows. Try to</p><p>ren antique???.jpg desk???.jpg</p><p>in File Manager (or whatever they call it these days). If you have 500 pictures of antique desks named antique001, antique001, etc it would take forever to rename them desk001, desk002, etc in a GUI.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You may jest , but you can do a lot more , more easily , from a command line than a GUI on any platform .
Even Windows .
Try toren antique ? ?
? .jpg desk ? ?
? .jpgin File Manager ( or whatever they call it these days ) .
If you have 500 pictures of antique desks named antique001 , antique001 , etc it would take forever to rename them desk001 , desk002 , etc in a GUI .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may jest, but you can do a lot more, more easily, from a command line than a GUI on any platform.
Even Windows.
Try toren antique??
?.jpg desk??
?.jpgin File Manager (or whatever they call it these days).
If you have 500 pictures of antique desks named antique001, antique001, etc it would take forever to rename them desk001, desk002, etc in a GUI.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30762496</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>SharpFang</author>
	<datestamp>1263471360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>depends how it is done.<br>Some LCD displays (in calculators) have polaroid filters separate, not embedded in the glass. Rotate it 90 degrees and you have white digits on black background. No electric change whatsoever.<br>LCD pixel switched on (crystal ordered, color) uses minimal amounts of energy vs pixel switched off (unordered, transparent) using no energy at all. Thus in backlit displays white uses less energy than black (transparent, no obscuring of backlight) while in reflective displays, black uses more energy... unless the polaroid is reversed in which case white does...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>depends how it is done.Some LCD displays ( in calculators ) have polaroid filters separate , not embedded in the glass .
Rotate it 90 degrees and you have white digits on black background .
No electric change whatsoever.LCD pixel switched on ( crystal ordered , color ) uses minimal amounts of energy vs pixel switched off ( unordered , transparent ) using no energy at all .
Thus in backlit displays white uses less energy than black ( transparent , no obscuring of backlight ) while in reflective displays , black uses more energy... unless the polaroid is reversed in which case white does.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>depends how it is done.Some LCD displays (in calculators) have polaroid filters separate, not embedded in the glass.
Rotate it 90 degrees and you have white digits on black background.
No electric change whatsoever.LCD pixel switched on (crystal ordered, color) uses minimal amounts of energy vs pixel switched off (unordered, transparent) using no energy at all.
Thus in backlit displays white uses less energy than black (transparent, no obscuring of backlight) while in reflective displays, black uses more energy... unless the polaroid is reversed in which case white does...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30760054</id>
	<title>Hmmm</title>
	<author>Lost Penguin</author>
	<datestamp>1263396540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>TCP over meteorites?</htmltext>
<tokenext>TCP over meteorites ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TCP over meteorites?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30760158</id>
	<title>Re:This hurt to read.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263397560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please stop replying to every sentence individually.  Really.  Knock it the fuck off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please stop replying to every sentence individually .
Really. Knock it the fuck off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please stop replying to every sentence individually.
Really.  Knock it the fuck off.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30757454</id>
	<title>Re:What about something a bit more immediate, but.</title>
	<author>t0p</author>
	<datestamp>1263382800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Twitter?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Twitter ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Twitter?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755430</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30757720</id>
	<title>Re:Bandwidth constraint?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263384060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Soviet Russia, bandwidth constrains you!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Soviet Russia , bandwidth constrains you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Soviet Russia, bandwidth constrains you!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755288</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755482</id>
	<title>Yikes!</title>
	<author>serutan</author>
	<datestamp>1263374400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just knowing Windows is running in space kind of gives me the willies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just knowing Windows is running in space kind of gives me the willies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just knowing Windows is running in space kind of gives me the willies.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30759094</id>
	<title>Re:This hurt to read.</title>
	<author>xxuserxx</author>
	<datestamp>1263390000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Im sure they have cashed mode toggled.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Im sure they have cashed mode toggled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Im sure they have cashed mode toggled.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756462</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30759198</id>
	<title>Re:Yikes!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263390540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Just knowing Windows is running in space kind of gives me the willies.</p></div><p>Would you open Windows on the ISS???</p></div><p>Only if I was under too much pressure...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just knowing Windows is running in space kind of gives me the willies.Would you open Windows on the ISS ? ?
? Only if I was under too much pressure.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just knowing Windows is running in space kind of gives me the willies.Would you open Windows on the ISS??
?Only if I was under too much pressure...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755634</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755618</id>
	<title>The lengths they go to...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263374880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...to use Microsoft software.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Because there&rsquo;s limited bandwidth up to the shuttle it&rsquo;s important to keep the OST fairly small so occasionally you&rsquo;ll hear NASA controllers ask the crew to clean out their Outlook files</p></div><p>They ask them, over a realtime voice connection, to clean out their Outlook files to save bandwidth. That's like sending "You've got mail" as a WAV file after transmitting a 1kB mail file.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...to use Microsoft software.Because there    s limited bandwidth up to the shuttle it    s important to keep the OST fairly small so occasionally you    ll hear NASA controllers ask the crew to clean out their Outlook filesThey ask them , over a realtime voice connection , to clean out their Outlook files to save bandwidth .
That 's like sending " You 've got mail " as a WAV file after transmitting a 1kB mail file .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...to use Microsoft software.Because there’s limited bandwidth up to the shuttle it’s important to keep the OST fairly small so occasionally you’ll hear NASA controllers ask the crew to clean out their Outlook filesThey ask them, over a realtime voice connection, to clean out their Outlook files to save bandwidth.
That's like sending "You've got mail" as a WAV file after transmitting a 1kB mail file.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30760170</id>
	<title>Re:Architecture?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263397680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google TDRSS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google TDRSS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google TDRSS.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755488</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30761484</id>
	<title>Outlook 2010 - A Mail Odyssey</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263411900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Open the OST file in Outlook, HAL.</p><p>I'm sorry, Dave, the file is already in use. What are you doing Dave? Dave, let's talk about this.</p><p>Daisy... daisy...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Open the OST file in Outlook , HAL.I 'm sorry , Dave , the file is already in use .
What are you doing Dave ?
Dave , let 's talk about this.Daisy... daisy.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Open the OST file in Outlook, HAL.I'm sorry, Dave, the file is already in use.
What are you doing Dave?
Dave, let's talk about this.Daisy... daisy...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30757138</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like a bad idea to me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263381300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>POPing into the server on earth willy nilly could be expensive. Think of the all the rocket fuel!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>POPing into the server on earth willy nilly could be expensive .
Think of the all the rocket fuel !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>POPing into the server on earth willy nilly could be expensive.
Think of the all the rocket fuel!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755690</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755426</id>
	<title>Wow</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263374100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For all those years i wanted to shoot outlook into outer space, and they already did...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For all those years i wanted to shoot outlook into outer space , and they already did.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For all those years i wanted to shoot outlook into outer space, and they already did...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30761238</id>
	<title>OSI Model, anyone?</title>
	<author>DavidD\_CA</author>
	<datestamp>1263408720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We've all learned about the OSI model.</p><p>It seems like these guys are going through great lengths to hack the application layer, when this is really the fault of the transmission layer.</p><p>Why not come up with a better protocol than TCP/IP or the radio protocol or whatever the heck it is that they're using, and then tune the OS to work off that stack and hand it over to Outlook as standard network data?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've all learned about the OSI model.It seems like these guys are going through great lengths to hack the application layer , when this is really the fault of the transmission layer.Why not come up with a better protocol than TCP/IP or the radio protocol or whatever the heck it is that they 're using , and then tune the OS to work off that stack and hand it over to Outlook as standard network data ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've all learned about the OSI model.It seems like these guys are going through great lengths to hack the application layer, when this is really the fault of the transmission layer.Why not come up with a better protocol than TCP/IP or the radio protocol or whatever the heck it is that they're using, and then tune the OS to work off that stack and hand it over to Outlook as standard network data?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30758336</id>
	<title>What??</title>
	<author>whoisisis</author>
	<datestamp>1263386700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I read that as "busy crewmembers bothered with spam or unnecessary messages <b>from</b> NASA"</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read that as " busy crewmembers bothered with spam or unnecessary messages from NASA "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read that as "busy crewmembers bothered with spam or unnecessary messages from NASA"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755566</id>
	<title>Direct TV Satellite Internet......</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1263374700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can get this is the middle of futt buck Kansas but they can't get it on the freaking ISS?    Maybe someone shoudl call DirecTV and ask them to send some installers up and mount a few dishes on the damn thing....   Even if you you had to put a tracking dish on the thing it is doable and would provide a nicer link to the ISS plus DirecTV could use it for all sorts of Free bragging rights for their commercials,.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can get this is the middle of futt buck Kansas but they ca n't get it on the freaking ISS ?
Maybe someone shoudl call DirecTV and ask them to send some installers up and mount a few dishes on the damn thing.... Even if you you had to put a tracking dish on the thing it is doable and would provide a nicer link to the ISS plus DirecTV could use it for all sorts of Free bragging rights for their commercials, .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can get this is the middle of futt buck Kansas but they can't get it on the freaking ISS?
Maybe someone shoudl call DirecTV and ask them to send some installers up and mount a few dishes on the damn thing....   Even if you you had to put a tracking dish on the thing it is doable and would provide a nicer link to the ISS plus DirecTV could use it for all sorts of Free bragging rights for their commercials,.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30757050</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like a bad idea to me</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1263380940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe they use Kermit for the transfer so LOS isn't that big of an issue since Kermit can restart.<br>Yes this is a terrible kluge but.<br>1. It works.<br>2. They probably already use outlook in Nasa so no need to change anything.<br>3. This was probably a hack they came up with a long time ago and is now procedure.</p><p>Yes they could make their own mailserver and have Outlook use imap but that would mean putting a server on the Shuttle.<br>So the simple answer is "It isn't broke so don't fix it" The shuttle is going to retire soon so the effort to make this any better is a waste.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe they use Kermit for the transfer so LOS is n't that big of an issue since Kermit can restart.Yes this is a terrible kluge but.1 .
It works.2 .
They probably already use outlook in Nasa so no need to change anything.3 .
This was probably a hack they came up with a long time ago and is now procedure.Yes they could make their own mailserver and have Outlook use imap but that would mean putting a server on the Shuttle.So the simple answer is " It is n't broke so do n't fix it " The shuttle is going to retire soon so the effort to make this any better is a waste .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe they use Kermit for the transfer so LOS isn't that big of an issue since Kermit can restart.Yes this is a terrible kluge but.1.
It works.2.
They probably already use outlook in Nasa so no need to change anything.3.
This was probably a hack they came up with a long time ago and is now procedure.Yes they could make their own mailserver and have Outlook use imap but that would mean putting a server on the Shuttle.So the simple answer is "It isn't broke so don't fix it" The shuttle is going to retire soon so the effort to make this any better is a waste.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755690</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30759526</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263392340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not significantly high enough, and, in your words "prone to crashing."</p><p>for i in *.jpg; do mv "$i" "`echo $i | sed 's/^antique/desk/'`"; done</p><p>But that's complicated when you want to do something so simple? Poor baby. What you don't understand is the same technique works for other uses.</p><p>for i in *.wmv; do transcode "$i" "$i.mpg"; done  # convert all wmv files to mpeg (may require options to transcode to control codecs and whatever, I'm too lazy too look it up right now)</p><p>for i in *.jpg; do convert "$i" "`echo $i | sed 's/jpg$/pdf/'`"; done  # convert all these jpegs to PDF files</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not significantly high enough , and , in your words " prone to crashing .
" for i in * .jpg ; do mv " $ i " " ` echo $ i | sed 's/ ^ antique/desk/ ' ` " ; doneBut that 's complicated when you want to do something so simple ?
Poor baby .
What you do n't understand is the same technique works for other uses.for i in * .wmv ; do transcode " $ i " " $ i.mpg " ; done # convert all wmv files to mpeg ( may require options to transcode to control codecs and whatever , I 'm too lazy too look it up right now ) for i in * .jpg ; do convert " $ i " " ` echo $ i | sed 's/jpg $ /pdf/ ' ` " ; done # convert all these jpegs to PDF files</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not significantly high enough, and, in your words "prone to crashing.
"for i in *.jpg; do mv "$i" "`echo $i | sed 's/^antique/desk/'`"; doneBut that's complicated when you want to do something so simple?
Poor baby.
What you don't understand is the same technique works for other uses.for i in *.wmv; do transcode "$i" "$i.mpg"; done  # convert all wmv files to mpeg (may require options to transcode to control codecs and whatever, I'm too lazy too look it up right now)for i in *.jpg; do convert "$i" "`echo $i | sed 's/jpg$/pdf/'`"; done  # convert all these jpegs to PDF files</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755800</id>
	<title>Should be investigated</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1263375600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As there is a new President in the Office and he doesn't really like (it seems) fantasy and unrealistic plans, he should also order his IT guys to start an investigation why standard, documented protocols like IMAP, XMPP aren't used. A visit from a Internet2 academic could be enough...</p><p>In fact, it is an International issue. ISS doesn't "belong" to USA, there are several billions of dollars of other countries out there.</p><p>While on it, they should also ask NASA about why on Earth "NASA TV is best viewed fullscreen with Windows Media Player", why there isn't a standard MP4 based live broadcast, why it defaults to Windows Media regardless of your setup...</p><p>Something really happening over there, trust me on that... These are the guys who had a genius idea of using Kermit as a protocol for communication before these "Outlook", "Windows Media Player" guys took over the job.</p><p>If there are people thinking "Oh but MS is an American company", let me remind, Red Hat, Sun Micro, IBM and lots of standards bodies are American too... That is in case the multi hundred billion dollar project should be a billboard for pathetic software setups.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As there is a new President in the Office and he does n't really like ( it seems ) fantasy and unrealistic plans , he should also order his IT guys to start an investigation why standard , documented protocols like IMAP , XMPP are n't used .
A visit from a Internet2 academic could be enough...In fact , it is an International issue .
ISS does n't " belong " to USA , there are several billions of dollars of other countries out there.While on it , they should also ask NASA about why on Earth " NASA TV is best viewed fullscreen with Windows Media Player " , why there is n't a standard MP4 based live broadcast , why it defaults to Windows Media regardless of your setup...Something really happening over there , trust me on that... These are the guys who had a genius idea of using Kermit as a protocol for communication before these " Outlook " , " Windows Media Player " guys took over the job.If there are people thinking " Oh but MS is an American company " , let me remind , Red Hat , Sun Micro , IBM and lots of standards bodies are American too... That is in case the multi hundred billion dollar project should be a billboard for pathetic software setups .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As there is a new President in the Office and he doesn't really like (it seems) fantasy and unrealistic plans, he should also order his IT guys to start an investigation why standard, documented protocols like IMAP, XMPP aren't used.
A visit from a Internet2 academic could be enough...In fact, it is an International issue.
ISS doesn't "belong" to USA, there are several billions of dollars of other countries out there.While on it, they should also ask NASA about why on Earth "NASA TV is best viewed fullscreen with Windows Media Player", why there isn't a standard MP4 based live broadcast, why it defaults to Windows Media regardless of your setup...Something really happening over there, trust me on that... These are the guys who had a genius idea of using Kermit as a protocol for communication before these "Outlook", "Windows Media Player" guys took over the job.If there are people thinking "Oh but MS is an American company", let me remind, Red Hat, Sun Micro, IBM and lots of standards bodies are American too... That is in case the multi hundred billion dollar project should be a billboard for pathetic software setups.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756236</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1263377280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>ren antique???.jpg desk???.jpg</p></div><p>mmv "antique*.jpg" "desk#1.jpg"</p><p>Owning an in dash car mp3 player since roughly the millenium, which only really understands 8.3 filenames, I've gotten pretty handy at renaming downloaded audiobook mp3 files<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>ren antique ? ?
? .jpg desk ? ?
? .jpgmmv " antique * .jpg " " desk # 1.jpg " Owning an in dash car mp3 player since roughly the millenium , which only really understands 8.3 filenames , I 've gotten pretty handy at renaming downloaded audiobook mp3 files .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ren antique??
?.jpg desk??
?.jpgmmv "antique*.jpg" "desk#1.jpg"Owning an in dash car mp3 player since roughly the millenium, which only really understands 8.3 filenames, I've gotten pretty handy at renaming downloaded audiobook mp3 files ...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755260</id>
	<title>Yeah</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263373560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First exchange! oh wait...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First exchange !
oh wait.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First exchange!
oh wait...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755882</id>
	<title>verbs and wishful thinking</title>
	<author>StandardDeviant</author>
	<datestamp>1263375840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If only that headline used "Nuking" instead of "Using" Outlook from Orbit.</p><p>My company recently switched from a really screwball lotus notes install to msexchange and thereby screwed every unix and mac user  -- which is to say, 95\% of the technical staff.  Some of that I can't blame MSFT for, we do have some real chimpanzees on our email team, but the experience does have me shaking my fist in Redmond's direction even more than usual of late.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If only that headline used " Nuking " instead of " Using " Outlook from Orbit.My company recently switched from a really screwball lotus notes install to msexchange and thereby screwed every unix and mac user -- which is to say , 95 \ % of the technical staff .
Some of that I ca n't blame MSFT for , we do have some real chimpanzees on our email team , but the experience does have me shaking my fist in Redmond 's direction even more than usual of late .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If only that headline used "Nuking" instead of "Using" Outlook from Orbit.My company recently switched from a really screwball lotus notes install to msexchange and thereby screwed every unix and mac user  -- which is to say, 95\% of the technical staff.
Some of that I can't blame MSFT for, we do have some real chimpanzees on our email team, but the experience does have me shaking my fist in Redmond's direction even more than usual of late.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755936</id>
	<title>Re:80's tech</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263376020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>NASA spent my tax dollars to buy Microsoft products to run on the Space Shuttle and ISS?! Fuck, shoot those fuckers down, anyone relying on Microsoft products in space deserves to go down in flames! Fuck, don't shoot them down, they'll crash on their own, just prevent them from rebooting every 3 days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NASA spent my tax dollars to buy Microsoft products to run on the Space Shuttle and ISS ? !
Fuck , shoot those fuckers down , anyone relying on Microsoft products in space deserves to go down in flames !
Fuck , do n't shoot them down , they 'll crash on their own , just prevent them from rebooting every 3 days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NASA spent my tax dollars to buy Microsoft products to run on the Space Shuttle and ISS?!
Fuck, shoot those fuckers down, anyone relying on Microsoft products in space deserves to go down in flames!
Fuck, don't shoot them down, they'll crash on their own, just prevent them from rebooting every 3 days.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755396</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>TheKidWho</author>
	<datestamp>1263374040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh Man Oh Man Oh Man, You're still using the command line? You gotta, I say you just gotta teach me that Arcane forgotten art!</p><p>Who needs a GUI when you've got the command line!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh Man Oh Man Oh Man , You 're still using the command line ?
You got ta , I say you just got ta teach me that Arcane forgotten art ! Who needs a GUI when you 've got the command line !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh Man Oh Man Oh Man, You're still using the command line?
You gotta, I say you just gotta teach me that Arcane forgotten art!Who needs a GUI when you've got the command line!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755268</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756860</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263380100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>C:\&gt;mailx<br>'mailx' is not recognized as an internal or external command,<br>operable program or batch file.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>C : \ &gt; mailx'mailx ' is not recognized as an internal or external command,operable program or batch file .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>C:\&gt;mailx'mailx' is not recognized as an internal or external command,operable program or batch file.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30758124</id>
	<title>Re:verbs and wishful thinking</title>
	<author>Sprouticus</author>
	<datestamp>1263385920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>your the 1st person I have EVER heard complain about going away from notes. Im not going to get into an Exchange vs Sendmail or other web based email arguement, its besides the point.</p><p>But NOTES?</p><p>Run a damn windows VM for your email/Office and call it a day. Notes is by far the worst mail client ever invented. CC:Mail is better than Notes. MS Mail is better than Notes. PINE is better than notes. It handles attachments better too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>your the 1st person I have EVER heard complain about going away from notes .
Im not going to get into an Exchange vs Sendmail or other web based email arguement , its besides the point.But NOTES ? Run a damn windows VM for your email/Office and call it a day .
Notes is by far the worst mail client ever invented .
CC : Mail is better than Notes .
MS Mail is better than Notes .
PINE is better than notes .
It handles attachments better too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>your the 1st person I have EVER heard complain about going away from notes.
Im not going to get into an Exchange vs Sendmail or other web based email arguement, its besides the point.But NOTES?Run a damn windows VM for your email/Office and call it a day.
Notes is by far the worst mail client ever invented.
CC:Mail is better than Notes.
MS Mail is better than Notes.
PINE is better than notes.
It handles attachments better too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755882</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756078</id>
	<title>Re:80's tech</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263376620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They are using Outlook/Exchange like a BBS that sends in digest mode only.</p></div><p>In that case, UUCP would be more appropriate since it is designed for burst-mode delivery of messages usually queued into a digest.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They are using Outlook/Exchange like a BBS that sends in digest mode only.In that case , UUCP would be more appropriate since it is designed for burst-mode delivery of messages usually queued into a digest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are using Outlook/Exchange like a BBS that sends in digest mode only.In that case, UUCP would be more appropriate since it is designed for burst-mode delivery of messages usually queued into a digest.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755316</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755896</id>
	<title>Hi! I'm Clippy, your ShuttleBuddy Navigation pal</title>
	<author>phonewebcam</author>
	<datestamp>1263375900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I noticed you pushed a button on your console. Are you trying to steer your spacecraft? Please wait whilst Clippy ShuttleBuddy extensions for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.NET 3.0 SP6 is installed, then after a reboot we'll get right on with that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I noticed you pushed a button on your console .
Are you trying to steer your spacecraft ?
Please wait whilst Clippy ShuttleBuddy extensions for .NET 3.0 SP6 is installed , then after a reboot we 'll get right on with that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I noticed you pushed a button on your console.
Are you trying to steer your spacecraft?
Please wait whilst Clippy ShuttleBuddy extensions for .NET 3.0 SP6 is installed, then after a reboot we'll get right on with that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755912</id>
	<title>Re:Not simply webmail?</title>
	<author>MobyDisk</author>
	<datestamp>1263375960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The web interface would waste more bandwidth than it saves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The web interface would waste more bandwidth than it saves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The web interface would waste more bandwidth than it saves.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755470</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756580</id>
	<title>Scheduling meetings is a must!</title>
	<author>gsgriffin</author>
	<datestamp>1263378780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Glad to hear they have an Exchange server running the heavy load of emails.  I imagine they really need it to schedule all those meetings on their calendars with each other.  We all know have disconnected people can get when they never see each other face to face while working on the Space Shuttle.  You constantly got people on either the upper or lower level, but you can never find them when you want them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Glad to hear they have an Exchange server running the heavy load of emails .
I imagine they really need it to schedule all those meetings on their calendars with each other .
We all know have disconnected people can get when they never see each other face to face while working on the Space Shuttle .
You constantly got people on either the upper or lower level , but you can never find them when you want them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Glad to hear they have an Exchange server running the heavy load of emails.
I imagine they really need it to schedule all those meetings on their calendars with each other.
We all know have disconnected people can get when they never see each other face to face while working on the Space Shuttle.
You constantly got people on either the upper or lower level, but you can never find them when you want them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30759560</id>
	<title>Using Outlook from Orbit - unreferenced to source</title>
	<author>nollaigoc</author>
	<datestamp>1263392520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This story looks like a Microsoft troll.
The link to the story   <a href="http://news.office-watch.com/t/n.aspx?articleid=1329&amp;zoneid=12" title="office-watch.com" rel="nofollow">http://news.office-watch.com/t/n.aspx?articleid=1329&amp;zoneid=12</a> [office-watch.com]  does not provide any link to NASA as a source. Without a source we must suspect a hoax. Sending a 4MB OST file to space back and forth sounds incredible, bandwidth wasteful, as information as text would be very large at 4KB per transmission. 4MB could be 2000 pages of text.!
I have exchanged emails from the middle of the Atlantic Ocean on a yacht using SSB radio and a Pactor modem <a href="http://www.scs-ptc.com/shop/categories/modems-en" title="scs-ptc.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.scs-ptc.com/shop/categories/modems-en</a> [scs-ptc.com] at 2400bps. Why, because bandwidth over a HF radio link is limited. There are many lightweight email clients and command line equivalent email clients that can communicate without the noise associated with animated smileys and gifs.
The message is important, straight ASCII, tells it all. The medium here is not the message.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This story looks like a Microsoft troll .
The link to the story http : //news.office-watch.com/t/n.aspx ? articleid = 1329&amp;zoneid = 12 [ office-watch.com ] does not provide any link to NASA as a source .
Without a source we must suspect a hoax .
Sending a 4MB OST file to space back and forth sounds incredible , bandwidth wasteful , as information as text would be very large at 4KB per transmission .
4MB could be 2000 pages of text. !
I have exchanged emails from the middle of the Atlantic Ocean on a yacht using SSB radio and a Pactor modem http : //www.scs-ptc.com/shop/categories/modems-en [ scs-ptc.com ] at 2400bps .
Why , because bandwidth over a HF radio link is limited .
There are many lightweight email clients and command line equivalent email clients that can communicate without the noise associated with animated smileys and gifs .
The message is important , straight ASCII , tells it all .
The medium here is not the message .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This story looks like a Microsoft troll.
The link to the story   http://news.office-watch.com/t/n.aspx?articleid=1329&amp;zoneid=12 [office-watch.com]  does not provide any link to NASA as a source.
Without a source we must suspect a hoax.
Sending a 4MB OST file to space back and forth sounds incredible, bandwidth wasteful, as information as text would be very large at 4KB per transmission.
4MB could be 2000 pages of text.!
I have exchanged emails from the middle of the Atlantic Ocean on a yacht using SSB radio and a Pactor modem http://www.scs-ptc.com/shop/categories/modems-en [scs-ptc.com] at 2400bps.
Why, because bandwidth over a HF radio link is limited.
There are many lightweight email clients and command line equivalent email clients that can communicate without the noise associated with animated smileys and gifs.
The message is important, straight ASCII, tells it all.
The medium here is not the message.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756384</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like a bad idea to me</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1263378000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>So, once a day they bundle a bunch of emails into a single<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.OST file and upload it to the shuttle. The astronauts then open that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.OST file in their local copy of Outlook. And they have to shut down Outlook while the upload is in progress because of Outlook file locking.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>I can't help but think of all the inflexible systems I've used like this. "Do it our way, or do an end-run and have to do everything in a roundabout, manual way". It leads to solutions that have huge piles of crap wrapped in a simplifying interface, possibly repeated a few levels deep. It always seems to come from an original design that left no room for other approaches, instead acting like the only problems are those it acknowledges.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , once a day they bundle a bunch of emails into a single .OST file and upload it to the shuttle .
The astronauts then open that .OST file in their local copy of Outlook .
And they have to shut down Outlook while the upload is in progress because of Outlook file locking .
I ca n't help but think of all the inflexible systems I 've used like this .
" Do it our way , or do an end-run and have to do everything in a roundabout , manual way " .
It leads to solutions that have huge piles of crap wrapped in a simplifying interface , possibly repeated a few levels deep .
It always seems to come from an original design that left no room for other approaches , instead acting like the only problems are those it acknowledges .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, once a day they bundle a bunch of emails into a single .OST file and upload it to the shuttle.
The astronauts then open that .OST file in their local copy of Outlook.
And they have to shut down Outlook while the upload is in progress because of Outlook file locking.
I can't help but think of all the inflexible systems I've used like this.
"Do it our way, or do an end-run and have to do everything in a roundabout, manual way".
It leads to solutions that have huge piles of crap wrapped in a simplifying interface, possibly repeated a few levels deep.
It always seems to come from an original design that left no room for other approaches, instead acting like the only problems are those it acknowledges.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755690</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30761492</id>
	<title>Re:verbs and wishful thinking</title>
	<author>atamido</author>
	<datestamp>1263412020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exchange supports IMAP and POP, plus there are Linux clients that can interact with it.  And the web interface for Exchange 2010 is excellent, probably better than using Outlook as you don't have to load such a huge program.  There are reasons to complain about Exchange, but being a *nix/Mac user is not one of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exchange supports IMAP and POP , plus there are Linux clients that can interact with it .
And the web interface for Exchange 2010 is excellent , probably better than using Outlook as you do n't have to load such a huge program .
There are reasons to complain about Exchange , but being a * nix/Mac user is not one of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exchange supports IMAP and POP, plus there are Linux clients that can interact with it.
And the web interface for Exchange 2010 is excellent, probably better than using Outlook as you don't have to load such a huge program.
There are reasons to complain about Exchange, but being a *nix/Mac user is not one of them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756374</id>
	<title>Re:80's tech</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1263377940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're doing it to save bandwidth.  Yet they probably spend more on bandwidth dealing with human error issues in the process than they would if the system was engineered properly in the first place.</p><p>You don't see an issue because you aren't an engineer trying to save every drop of energy/bandwidth/processing time possible.</p><p>Basically, you're a java or C# developer when then need C and assembly developers with a clue.</p><p>Custom hacks when there are already systems (even build into EXCHANGE!) to do EXACTLY what they need to do are beyond stupid.  Its one thing to use a custom hack so you don't get tied into a vendor, but their hack is entirely tied to their vendors so that rules that reason out.</p><p>Next you do it because you have a requirement that no existing solution fills in properly, which is certainly not the case here.  As I already said, even Exchange will be happy to do store and forward batching on a schedule.  A tiny exchange server (or a more efficient/less resource intensive alternative) on the space station could be designed to consume pretty much no energy unless it was actually in use.</p><p>In short, this is clearly something thrown together by engineers who knew nothing about the tools they were working with.  Not their fault (probably), some douche bag manager probably didn't ask the IT guys.</p><p>The problem is, they went through effort and resources to make a system that is clearly less efficient than any of the possibly alternatives I can come up with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're doing it to save bandwidth .
Yet they probably spend more on bandwidth dealing with human error issues in the process than they would if the system was engineered properly in the first place.You do n't see an issue because you are n't an engineer trying to save every drop of energy/bandwidth/processing time possible.Basically , you 're a java or C # developer when then need C and assembly developers with a clue.Custom hacks when there are already systems ( even build into EXCHANGE !
) to do EXACTLY what they need to do are beyond stupid .
Its one thing to use a custom hack so you do n't get tied into a vendor , but their hack is entirely tied to their vendors so that rules that reason out.Next you do it because you have a requirement that no existing solution fills in properly , which is certainly not the case here .
As I already said , even Exchange will be happy to do store and forward batching on a schedule .
A tiny exchange server ( or a more efficient/less resource intensive alternative ) on the space station could be designed to consume pretty much no energy unless it was actually in use.In short , this is clearly something thrown together by engineers who knew nothing about the tools they were working with .
Not their fault ( probably ) , some douche bag manager probably did n't ask the IT guys.The problem is , they went through effort and resources to make a system that is clearly less efficient than any of the possibly alternatives I can come up with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're doing it to save bandwidth.
Yet they probably spend more on bandwidth dealing with human error issues in the process than they would if the system was engineered properly in the first place.You don't see an issue because you aren't an engineer trying to save every drop of energy/bandwidth/processing time possible.Basically, you're a java or C# developer when then need C and assembly developers with a clue.Custom hacks when there are already systems (even build into EXCHANGE!
) to do EXACTLY what they need to do are beyond stupid.
Its one thing to use a custom hack so you don't get tied into a vendor, but their hack is entirely tied to their vendors so that rules that reason out.Next you do it because you have a requirement that no existing solution fills in properly, which is certainly not the case here.
As I already said, even Exchange will be happy to do store and forward batching on a schedule.
A tiny exchange server (or a more efficient/less resource intensive alternative) on the space station could be designed to consume pretty much no energy unless it was actually in use.In short, this is clearly something thrown together by engineers who knew nothing about the tools they were working with.
Not their fault (probably), some douche bag manager probably didn't ask the IT guys.The problem is, they went through effort and resources to make a system that is clearly less efficient than any of the possibly alternatives I can come up with.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30758366</id>
	<title>Re:80's tech</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263386820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you right-click your Outlook icon in the system tray, there's an option called 'Work Offline'.  That's pretty much what they're doing.  My guess is they have Outlook running on a workstation on the ground to handle all the Send/Receive functions.  They move the file to and from the space shuttle using some kind of FTP.  Maybe even a Windows file share.  The astronauts put the e-mail they're keeping in their PST.  All the e-mails they send sits in the Outbox.  When they copy the OST back to the ground, the Outlook client on the ground does the sending.</p><p>Overall, this isn't that impressive, but it makes sense.  The technology we were accustomed to when bandwidth was scarce works well on a low bandwidth link.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you right-click your Outlook icon in the system tray , there 's an option called 'Work Offline' .
That 's pretty much what they 're doing .
My guess is they have Outlook running on a workstation on the ground to handle all the Send/Receive functions .
They move the file to and from the space shuttle using some kind of FTP .
Maybe even a Windows file share .
The astronauts put the e-mail they 're keeping in their PST .
All the e-mails they send sits in the Outbox .
When they copy the OST back to the ground , the Outlook client on the ground does the sending.Overall , this is n't that impressive , but it makes sense .
The technology we were accustomed to when bandwidth was scarce works well on a low bandwidth link .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you right-click your Outlook icon in the system tray, there's an option called 'Work Offline'.
That's pretty much what they're doing.
My guess is they have Outlook running on a workstation on the ground to handle all the Send/Receive functions.
They move the file to and from the space shuttle using some kind of FTP.
Maybe even a Windows file share.
The astronauts put the e-mail they're keeping in their PST.
All the e-mails they send sits in the Outbox.
When they copy the OST back to the ground, the Outlook client on the ground does the sending.Overall, this isn't that impressive, but it makes sense.
The technology we were accustomed to when bandwidth was scarce works well on a low bandwidth link.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755316</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756656</id>
	<title>Is As Bad As Using</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263379140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Outlook on Earth.</p><p>Fuck the <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">Evildoers</a> [microsoft.com].</p><p>Yours In Perm,<br>K. Trout</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Outlook on Earth.Fuck the Evildoers [ microsoft.com ] .Yours In Perm,K .
Trout</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Outlook on Earth.Fuck the Evildoers [microsoft.com].Yours In Perm,K.
Trout</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755470</id>
	<title>Not simply webmail?</title>
	<author>Drethon</author>
	<datestamp>1263374280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is it actually cheaper to upload all the e-mails in a burst instead of using a webmail system where only the mail the receiver wants to receive would be opened?  Wouldn't work if they want to read offline I guess but the concern mentioned is bandwidth not connectivity.<br>
<br>
Any mail experts comment?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it actually cheaper to upload all the e-mails in a burst instead of using a webmail system where only the mail the receiver wants to receive would be opened ?
Would n't work if they want to read offline I guess but the concern mentioned is bandwidth not connectivity .
Any mail experts comment ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it actually cheaper to upload all the e-mails in a burst instead of using a webmail system where only the mail the receiver wants to receive would be opened?
Wouldn't work if they want to read offline I guess but the concern mentioned is bandwidth not connectivity.
Any mail experts comment?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756006</id>
	<title>Congratulations NASA, you've caught up with 1978!</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1263376380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was doing this 20 years ago with UUCP and/or sendmail.</p><p>HELO mx1.ground.nasa.gov<br>EXTN<br>QUIT</p><p>Push queued mail on demand to the orbiting mail server.  Cron up the EXTN trigger or setup sendmail (which its happy to do) to handle the queuing whever you want.</p><p>Guess what, it works with exchange too!</p><p>I guess NASA spends its money on aeronautical engineers and not computer system admins.  I'd be willing to bet that I could do it cheaper and more reliably even with exchange than there method, in their constraints of bandwidth and available connection time.</p><p>Seriously, I ran a FIDOnet hub, its not hard.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was doing this 20 years ago with UUCP and/or sendmail.HELO mx1.ground.nasa.govEXTNQUITPush queued mail on demand to the orbiting mail server .
Cron up the EXTN trigger or setup sendmail ( which its happy to do ) to handle the queuing whever you want.Guess what , it works with exchange too ! I guess NASA spends its money on aeronautical engineers and not computer system admins .
I 'd be willing to bet that I could do it cheaper and more reliably even with exchange than there method , in their constraints of bandwidth and available connection time.Seriously , I ran a FIDOnet hub , its not hard .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was doing this 20 years ago with UUCP and/or sendmail.HELO mx1.ground.nasa.govEXTNQUITPush queued mail on demand to the orbiting mail server.
Cron up the EXTN trigger or setup sendmail (which its happy to do) to handle the queuing whever you want.Guess what, it works with exchange too!I guess NASA spends its money on aeronautical engineers and not computer system admins.
I'd be willing to bet that I could do it cheaper and more reliably even with exchange than there method, in their constraints of bandwidth and available connection time.Seriously, I ran a FIDOnet hub, its not hard.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30757602</id>
	<title>Catchy title</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263383580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the title gives new meaning to the term 'space junk'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the title gives new meaning to the term 'space junk'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the title gives new meaning to the term 'space junk'</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756318</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like a bad idea to me</title>
	<author>tool462</author>
	<datestamp>1263377700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If a 'Loss of Signal' can interrupt a POP session, wouldn't it also interrupt a file upload? </p></div><p>If they could get a few more shuttles into orbit, they could probably use BitTorrent.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If a 'Loss of Signal ' can interrupt a POP session , would n't it also interrupt a file upload ?
If they could get a few more shuttles into orbit , they could probably use BitTorrent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If a 'Loss of Signal' can interrupt a POP session, wouldn't it also interrupt a file upload?
If they could get a few more shuttles into orbit, they could probably use BitTorrent.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756130</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like a bad idea to me</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1263376800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I gather that the idea is that the OST stores the messages more efficiently than if you were trying to transfer individual messages.  That's an important issue if you're operating with limited bandwidth.  Also, the article implies that the messages are basically being hand-sorted into the OST file to prevent any waste in bandwidth.
</p><p>Beyond that, there's the issue of what protocols are best for this purpose.  The article doesn't go into detail about how the OST files are being uploaded,  but the protocol may have influenced the decision.  For example, how does IMAP compare with FTP or HTTP in terms of efficiency?  Does IMAP allow you to resume interrupted transfers?  Does IMAP allow you to compress the data before sending it?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>This just sounds like someone wanted to use Microsoft Outlook no matter what and hacked together a procedure to use it even though there are way better approaches. And isn't the whole point of Outlook that it has a built in calendar and meeting request system and network folders? They're not even using those more advanced parts of it, they just need email.</p></div><p>Are you sure they're not using the calendar or contact management?  That stuff is stored in the OST file too.  It doesn't sound to me like they were just fixated on Outlook, since they could have set up Outlook to download the messages through POP or IMAP if they had wanted to.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I gather that the idea is that the OST stores the messages more efficiently than if you were trying to transfer individual messages .
That 's an important issue if you 're operating with limited bandwidth .
Also , the article implies that the messages are basically being hand-sorted into the OST file to prevent any waste in bandwidth .
Beyond that , there 's the issue of what protocols are best for this purpose .
The article does n't go into detail about how the OST files are being uploaded , but the protocol may have influenced the decision .
For example , how does IMAP compare with FTP or HTTP in terms of efficiency ?
Does IMAP allow you to resume interrupted transfers ?
Does IMAP allow you to compress the data before sending it ? This just sounds like someone wanted to use Microsoft Outlook no matter what and hacked together a procedure to use it even though there are way better approaches .
And is n't the whole point of Outlook that it has a built in calendar and meeting request system and network folders ?
They 're not even using those more advanced parts of it , they just need email.Are you sure they 're not using the calendar or contact management ?
That stuff is stored in the OST file too .
It does n't sound to me like they were just fixated on Outlook , since they could have set up Outlook to download the messages through POP or IMAP if they had wanted to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I gather that the idea is that the OST stores the messages more efficiently than if you were trying to transfer individual messages.
That's an important issue if you're operating with limited bandwidth.
Also, the article implies that the messages are basically being hand-sorted into the OST file to prevent any waste in bandwidth.
Beyond that, there's the issue of what protocols are best for this purpose.
The article doesn't go into detail about how the OST files are being uploaded,  but the protocol may have influenced the decision.
For example, how does IMAP compare with FTP or HTTP in terms of efficiency?
Does IMAP allow you to resume interrupted transfers?
Does IMAP allow you to compress the data before sending it?This just sounds like someone wanted to use Microsoft Outlook no matter what and hacked together a procedure to use it even though there are way better approaches.
And isn't the whole point of Outlook that it has a built in calendar and meeting request system and network folders?
They're not even using those more advanced parts of it, they just need email.Are you sure they're not using the calendar or contact management?
That stuff is stored in the OST file too.
It doesn't sound to me like they were just fixated on Outlook, since they could have set up Outlook to download the messages through POP or IMAP if they had wanted to.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30758474</id>
	<title>Microsoft isn't bragging?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263387240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From TFA: It&rsquo;s surprising that Microsoft hasn&rsquo;t made more noise about the use of Microsoft Office in space</p><p>Microsoft probably isn't making more noise about this because it is a TERRIBLE system.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : It    s surprising that Microsoft hasn    t made more noise about the use of Microsoft Office in spaceMicrosoft probably is n't making more noise about this because it is a TERRIBLE system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA: It’s surprising that Microsoft hasn’t made more noise about the use of Microsoft Office in spaceMicrosoft probably isn't making more noise about this because it is a TERRIBLE system.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755690</id>
	<title>Sounds like a bad idea to me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263375120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, once a day they bundle a bunch of emails into a single<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.OST file and upload it to the shuttle. The astronauts then open that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.OST file in their local copy of Outlook. And they have to shut down Outlook while the upload is in progress because of Outlook file locking.</p><blockquote><div><p>In addition, communication with the ground isn't always possible (you'll hear warnings of LOS - Loss of Signal during mission communications) so standard methods of email transfer like POP/SMTP, IMAP etc might not be reliable.</p></div></blockquote><p>If a 'Loss of Signal' can interrupt a POP session, wouldn't it also interrupt a file upload? Couldn't they just POP into the server on Earth once a day to grab their emails to be stored in a simple mbox or some such? Wouldn't this also eliminate the file locking issue as mboxes and Maildirs are pretty old and stable solutions that don't have this problem? This just sounds like someone wanted to use Microsoft Outlook no matter what and hacked together a procedure to use it even though there are way better approaches. And isn't the whole point of Outlook that it has a built in calendar and meeting request system and network folders? They're not even using those more advanced parts of it, they just need email.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , once a day they bundle a bunch of emails into a single .OST file and upload it to the shuttle .
The astronauts then open that .OST file in their local copy of Outlook .
And they have to shut down Outlook while the upload is in progress because of Outlook file locking.In addition , communication with the ground is n't always possible ( you 'll hear warnings of LOS - Loss of Signal during mission communications ) so standard methods of email transfer like POP/SMTP , IMAP etc might not be reliable.If a 'Loss of Signal ' can interrupt a POP session , would n't it also interrupt a file upload ?
Could n't they just POP into the server on Earth once a day to grab their emails to be stored in a simple mbox or some such ?
Would n't this also eliminate the file locking issue as mboxes and Maildirs are pretty old and stable solutions that do n't have this problem ?
This just sounds like someone wanted to use Microsoft Outlook no matter what and hacked together a procedure to use it even though there are way better approaches .
And is n't the whole point of Outlook that it has a built in calendar and meeting request system and network folders ?
They 're not even using those more advanced parts of it , they just need email .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, once a day they bundle a bunch of emails into a single .OST file and upload it to the shuttle.
The astronauts then open that .OST file in their local copy of Outlook.
And they have to shut down Outlook while the upload is in progress because of Outlook file locking.In addition, communication with the ground isn't always possible (you'll hear warnings of LOS - Loss of Signal during mission communications) so standard methods of email transfer like POP/SMTP, IMAP etc might not be reliable.If a 'Loss of Signal' can interrupt a POP session, wouldn't it also interrupt a file upload?
Couldn't they just POP into the server on Earth once a day to grab their emails to be stored in a simple mbox or some such?
Wouldn't this also eliminate the file locking issue as mboxes and Maildirs are pretty old and stable solutions that don't have this problem?
This just sounds like someone wanted to use Microsoft Outlook no matter what and hacked together a procedure to use it even though there are way better approaches.
And isn't the whole point of Outlook that it has a built in calendar and meeting request system and network folders?
They're not even using those more advanced parts of it, they just need email.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756790</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>PhunkySchtuff</author>
	<datestamp>1263379740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What is this "e" mail you speak of? I get my mail in envelopes...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What is this " e " mail you speak of ?
I get my mail in envelopes.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is this "e" mail you speak of?
I get my mail in envelopes...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755970</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30757914</id>
	<title>NASA</title>
	<author>Ice Station Zebra</author>
	<datestamp>1263385080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>need another system administrator.  Cuz the ones they have suck...stupidest solution ever.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>need another system administrator .
Cuz the ones they have suck...stupidest solution ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>need another system administrator.
Cuz the ones they have suck...stupidest solution ever.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30758656</id>
	<title>Re:Yikes!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263387960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The <a href="http://messagesfromearth.wordpress.com/2008/06/06/cylon-base-ship-runs-windows-xp/" title="wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">Cylon Base Ship runs Windows XP</a> [wordpress.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Cylon Base Ship runs Windows XP [ wordpress.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Cylon Base Ship runs Windows XP [wordpress.com].</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755970</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263376200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You and your command lines, I receive my email as boxes of punched cards!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You and your command lines , I receive my email as boxes of punched cards !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You and your command lines, I receive my email as boxes of punched cards!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30757378</id>
	<title>Re:I have avatar depression...</title>
	<author>larry bagina</author>
	<datestamp>1263382440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>how can I fix it?</p></div><p>Take a trip to brokeback mountain.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>how can I fix it ? Take a trip to brokeback mountain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how can I fix it?Take a trip to brokeback mountain.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755316</id>
	<title>80's tech</title>
	<author>prgrmr</author>
	<datestamp>1263373800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>They are using Outlook/Exchange like a BBS that sends in digest mode only.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They are using Outlook/Exchange like a BBS that sends in digest mode only .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are using Outlook/Exchange like a BBS that sends in digest mode only.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756698</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1263379320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There has, unfortunately, been a recorded instance of someone believing that they(ie. themselves directly, not their computer) receive email.<br> <br>

<a href="http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/fulltext/114229567/PDFSTART" title="wiley.com">Very odd.</a> [wiley.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>There has , unfortunately , been a recorded instance of someone believing that they ( ie .
themselves directly , not their computer ) receive email .
Very odd .
[ wiley.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There has, unfortunately, been a recorded instance of someone believing that they(ie.
themselves directly, not their computer) receive email.
Very odd.
[wiley.com]</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30757438</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>AvitarX</author>
	<datestamp>1263382680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I select all, right click, and select rename-it from my context menu.</p><p>The benefit is I get a live preview of my renaming, if I am doing something fancy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I select all , right click , and select rename-it from my context menu.The benefit is I get a live preview of my renaming , if I am doing something fancy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I select all, right click, and select rename-it from my context menu.The benefit is I get a live preview of my renaming, if I am doing something fancy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756346</id>
	<title>Re:What about something a bit more immediate, but.</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1263377820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IM?  They don't.  Unlike the massive amount of retards that IM all sorts of shit, this are intelligent people who probably just use the old tried and true method of calling them up on the radio or yelling down the hall if its onboard.</p><p>IMs - Email for those who don't realize nothing they do is so important that someone else has to know/answer RIGHT NOW!@\%!@\%!@\%!@\%@#^@#^!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IM ?
They do n't .
Unlike the massive amount of retards that IM all sorts of shit , this are intelligent people who probably just use the old tried and true method of calling them up on the radio or yelling down the hall if its onboard.IMs - Email for those who do n't realize nothing they do is so important that someone else has to know/answer RIGHT NOW ! @ \ % ! @ \ % ! @ \ % !
@ \ % @ # ^ @ # ^ !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IM?
They don't.
Unlike the massive amount of retards that IM all sorts of shit, this are intelligent people who probably just use the old tried and true method of calling them up on the radio or yelling down the hall if its onboard.IMs - Email for those who don't realize nothing they do is so important that someone else has to know/answer RIGHT NOW!@\%!@\%!@\%!
@\%@#^@#^!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30760014</id>
	<title>No wonder its called lookout.</title>
	<author>rgfranks</author>
	<datestamp>1263396240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My iPod Touch probably gets a hell of a lot more email than 4MB per day and deals with tricky issues such as Loss Of Signal.  Talk about a solution looking for a problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My iPod Touch probably gets a hell of a lot more email than 4MB per day and deals with tricky issues such as Loss Of Signal .
Talk about a solution looking for a problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My iPod Touch probably gets a hell of a lot more email than 4MB per day and deals with tricky issues such as Loss Of Signal.
Talk about a solution looking for a problem.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756052</id>
	<title>Re:80's tech</title>
	<author>SuiteSisterMary</author>
	<datestamp>1263376560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We also would have accepted 'UUCP'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We also would have accepted 'UUCP' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We also would have accepted 'UUCP'.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755960</id>
	<title>Re:Direct TV Satellite Internet......</title>
	<author>f8l\_0e</author>
	<datestamp>1263376140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Except the shuttle isn't in a geosynchronous orbit, like the DirecTV satellite.  Try redirecting your dish to something that's moving at over 17,000 mph.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Except the shuttle is n't in a geosynchronous orbit , like the DirecTV satellite .
Try redirecting your dish to something that 's moving at over 17,000 mph .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except the shuttle isn't in a geosynchronous orbit, like the DirecTV satellite.
Try redirecting your dish to something that's moving at over 17,000 mph.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756372</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263377940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>it would take forever to rename them desk001, desk002, etc in a GUI.</p></div><p>There's an app for that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>it would take forever to rename them desk001 , desk002 , etc in a GUI.There 's an app for that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it would take forever to rename them desk001, desk002, etc in a GUI.There's an app for that.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30759180</id>
	<title>Now we know...</title>
	<author>YankDownUnder</author>
	<datestamp>1263390480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...where NASA blows it's financing. On Microsoft "can't bother to fix it" software. How trite. Instead of using free software, free OS's - developed for the scientifically minded, they're using brainless, costly, ineffective software products coupled with brainless, costly, ineffective operating systems. WAY TO GO NASA! Now it's clear why other "space related" groups are moving ahead in the game.

Now the old joke makes sense, in a big way. "In the 60's, the US government and NASA spent millions of dollars to research and develop an ink pen that would function in a weightless environment. Meanwhile, the Russians used a pencil."</htmltext>
<tokenext>...where NASA blows it 's financing .
On Microsoft " ca n't bother to fix it " software .
How trite .
Instead of using free software , free OS 's - developed for the scientifically minded , they 're using brainless , costly , ineffective software products coupled with brainless , costly , ineffective operating systems .
WAY TO GO NASA !
Now it 's clear why other " space related " groups are moving ahead in the game .
Now the old joke makes sense , in a big way .
" In the 60 's , the US government and NASA spent millions of dollars to research and develop an ink pen that would function in a weightless environment .
Meanwhile , the Russians used a pencil .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...where NASA blows it's financing.
On Microsoft "can't bother to fix it" software.
How trite.
Instead of using free software, free OS's - developed for the scientifically minded, they're using brainless, costly, ineffective software products coupled with brainless, costly, ineffective operating systems.
WAY TO GO NASA!
Now it's clear why other "space related" groups are moving ahead in the game.
Now the old joke makes sense, in a big way.
"In the 60's, the US government and NASA spent millions of dollars to research and develop an ink pen that would function in a weightless environment.
Meanwhile, the Russians used a pencil.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755542</id>
	<title>Re:Wouldn't standard solutions be cheaper and easi</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263374580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why not just run a normal mailserver with a simple script to deliver any messages in the files uploaded? No need for the astronauts to mess with weird outlook files, just hit "check mail" on whatever client they prefer.</p></div><p>This story hurts me in so many ways. Ow, stupidity... ow Microsoft... ow Twitter...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not just run a normal mailserver with a simple script to deliver any messages in the files uploaded ?
No need for the astronauts to mess with weird outlook files , just hit " check mail " on whatever client they prefer.This story hurts me in so many ways .
Ow , stupidity... ow Microsoft... ow Twitter.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not just run a normal mailserver with a simple script to deliver any messages in the files uploaded?
No need for the astronauts to mess with weird outlook files, just hit "check mail" on whatever client they prefer.This story hurts me in so many ways.
Ow, stupidity... ow Microsoft... ow Twitter...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755408</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755246</id>
	<title>I have avatar depression...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263373500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>how can I fix it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>how can I fix it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how can I fix it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756476</id>
	<title>Re:Direct TV Satellite Internet......</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263378300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I can get this is the middle of futt buck Kansas but they can't get it on the freaking ISS? Maybe someone shoudl call DirecTV and ask them to send some installers up and mount a few dishes on the damn thing.... Even if you you had to put a tracking dish on the thing it is doable and would provide a nicer link to the ISS plus DirecTV could use it for all sorts of Free bragging rights for their commercials,.</p></div></blockquote><p>
That's because the Direct TV sats are in a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary\_orbit" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">geostationary orbit</a> [wikipedia.org], meaning they're always over the same spot at all times. The ISS, however, is a moving object and not a fixed ground receiver. Due to its much lower orbit than any given comsat, it would still spend half of its time on the other side of the planet. When dealing with a line-of-site signal, having an <em>entire fscking planet</em> in your way kinda screws with reception...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can get this is the middle of futt buck Kansas but they ca n't get it on the freaking ISS ?
Maybe someone shoudl call DirecTV and ask them to send some installers up and mount a few dishes on the damn thing.... Even if you you had to put a tracking dish on the thing it is doable and would provide a nicer link to the ISS plus DirecTV could use it for all sorts of Free bragging rights for their commercials, .
That 's because the Direct TV sats are in a geostationary orbit [ wikipedia.org ] , meaning they 're always over the same spot at all times .
The ISS , however , is a moving object and not a fixed ground receiver .
Due to its much lower orbit than any given comsat , it would still spend half of its time on the other side of the planet .
When dealing with a line-of-site signal , having an entire fscking planet in your way kinda screws with reception.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can get this is the middle of futt buck Kansas but they can't get it on the freaking ISS?
Maybe someone shoudl call DirecTV and ask them to send some installers up and mount a few dishes on the damn thing.... Even if you you had to put a tracking dish on the thing it is doable and would provide a nicer link to the ISS plus DirecTV could use it for all sorts of Free bragging rights for their commercials,.
That's because the Direct TV sats are in a geostationary orbit [wikipedia.org], meaning they're always over the same spot at all times.
The ISS, however, is a moving object and not a fixed ground receiver.
Due to its much lower orbit than any given comsat, it would still spend half of its time on the other side of the planet.
When dealing with a line-of-site signal, having an entire fscking planet in your way kinda screws with reception...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755268</id>
	<title>mail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263373560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I bet it would down on their power usage if, instead of that fancy GUI, they just used mailx from the command line like I do.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet it would down on their power usage if , instead of that fancy GUI , they just used mailx from the command line like I do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet it would down on their power usage if, instead of that fancy GUI, they just used mailx from the command line like I do.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756004</id>
	<title>Dr Who ...</title>
	<author>electricprof</author>
	<datestamp>1263376320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Doesn't the use of Microsoft products in space violate article 3 section 47 paragraph 3 of the Shadow Proclamation?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't the use of Microsoft products in space violate article 3 section 47 paragraph 3 of the Shadow Proclamation ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't the use of Microsoft products in space violate article 3 section 47 paragraph 3 of the Shadow Proclamation?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756116</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>suso</author>
	<datestamp>1263376800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Oh Man Oh Man Oh Man, You're still using the command line? You gotta, I say you just gotta teach me that Arcane forgotten art!</p><p>Who needs a GUI when you've got the command line!</p></div><p>This is just like how someone was telling me it was 2009 and wondering why I was still using vim. And he was telling me this on an IRC channel. Pot, meet kettle.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh Man Oh Man Oh Man , You 're still using the command line ?
You got ta , I say you just got ta teach me that Arcane forgotten art ! Who needs a GUI when you 've got the command line ! This is just like how someone was telling me it was 2009 and wondering why I was still using vim .
And he was telling me this on an IRC channel .
Pot , meet kettle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh Man Oh Man Oh Man, You're still using the command line?
You gotta, I say you just gotta teach me that Arcane forgotten art!Who needs a GUI when you've got the command line!This is just like how someone was telling me it was 2009 and wondering why I was still using vim.
And he was telling me this on an IRC channel.
Pot, meet kettle.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755396</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756466</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263378300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt;&gt; Using mailx like you do would give off too much smug for their filters and cleaners to handle.
<br> <br>Imagine using mailx on a Mac!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; Using mailx like you do would give off too much smug for their filters and cleaners to handle .
Imagine using mailx on a Mac !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt; Using mailx like you do would give off too much smug for their filters and cleaners to handle.
Imagine using mailx on a Mac!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755726</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755762</id>
	<title>Limited bandwidth or bloated files?</title>
	<author>RDW</author>
	<datestamp>1263375420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>'The crew use fairly standard laptops running Microsoft Outlook (currently Outlook 2003) with Exchange Server as the email host...Because there's limited bandwidth up to the shuttle it's important to keep the OST fairly small so occasionally you'll hear NASA controllers ask the crew to clean out their Outlook files'</p><p>I say we take off and re-install the entire OS from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>'The crew use fairly standard laptops running Microsoft Outlook ( currently Outlook 2003 ) with Exchange Server as the email host...Because there 's limited bandwidth up to the shuttle it 's important to keep the OST fairly small so occasionally you 'll hear NASA controllers ask the crew to clean out their Outlook files'I say we take off and re-install the entire OS from orbit .
It 's the only way to be sure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'The crew use fairly standard laptops running Microsoft Outlook (currently Outlook 2003) with Exchange Server as the email host...Because there's limited bandwidth up to the shuttle it's important to keep the OST fairly small so occasionally you'll hear NASA controllers ask the crew to clean out their Outlook files'I say we take off and re-install the entire OS from orbit.
It's the only way to be sure.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30760620</id>
	<title>Can't at least NASA use Linux?</title>
	<author>mark-t</author>
	<datestamp>1263401940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I mean, what does it say if Linux is too complicated even for rocket scientists to use?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean , what does it say if Linux is too complicated even for rocket scientists to use ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean, what does it say if Linux is too complicated even for rocket scientists to use?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755820</id>
	<title>wec</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263375660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>cewcec</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>cewcec</tokentext>
<sentencetext>cewcec</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30757228</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>Totenglocke</author>
	<datestamp>1263381780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Punch cards?  Damn kids these days!  I read my email in binary!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Punch cards ?
Damn kids these days !
I read my email in binary !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Punch cards?
Damn kids these days!
I read my email in binary!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755970</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30758390</id>
	<title>Re:Congratulations NASA, you've caught up with 197</title>
	<author>Abalamahalamatandra</author>
	<datestamp>1263386880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually the command is ETRN.</p><p>Back in the mid-90's, we used to use this with our ISDN customers who wanted to have their own email domains, but didn't want to pay for always-on ISDN.  So we set up mail servers for them that would bring up the ISDN link, issue an ETRN command to our mail server, wait while the mail got sent, then shut the link back down.  Worked great.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually the command is ETRN.Back in the mid-90 's , we used to use this with our ISDN customers who wanted to have their own email domains , but did n't want to pay for always-on ISDN .
So we set up mail servers for them that would bring up the ISDN link , issue an ETRN command to our mail server , wait while the mail got sent , then shut the link back down .
Worked great .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually the command is ETRN.Back in the mid-90's, we used to use this with our ISDN customers who wanted to have their own email domains, but didn't want to pay for always-on ISDN.
So we set up mail servers for them that would bring up the ISDN link, issue an ETRN command to our mail server, wait while the mail got sent, then shut the link back down.
Worked great.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756232</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>nmb3000</author>
	<datestamp>1263377280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>You may jest, but you can do a lot more, more easily, from a command line than a GUI on any platform. Even Windows. Try to</i></p><p><i>ren antique???.jpg desk???.jpg</i></p><p><i>in File Manager</i></p><p>In Windows: CTRL+A, F2, "desk", ENTER.</p><p>Admittedly that gives you names like "desk (01).jpg" and not "desk01.jpg" but it's close enough.  If you want a significantly higher level of control, try something like <a href="http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA014830/english/FlexRena/" title="vector.co.jp">Flexible Renamer</a> [vector.co.jp] (somewhat prone to crashing, but the most versatile and powerful I've found).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You may jest , but you can do a lot more , more easily , from a command line than a GUI on any platform .
Even Windows .
Try toren antique ? ?
? .jpg desk ? ?
? .jpgin File ManagerIn Windows : CTRL + A , F2 , " desk " , ENTER.Admittedly that gives you names like " desk ( 01 ) .jpg " and not " desk01.jpg " but it 's close enough .
If you want a significantly higher level of control , try something like Flexible Renamer [ vector.co.jp ] ( somewhat prone to crashing , but the most versatile and powerful I 've found ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may jest, but you can do a lot more, more easily, from a command line than a GUI on any platform.
Even Windows.
Try toren antique??
?.jpg desk??
?.jpgin File ManagerIn Windows: CTRL+A, F2, "desk", ENTER.Admittedly that gives you names like "desk (01).jpg" and not "desk01.jpg" but it's close enough.
If you want a significantly higher level of control, try something like Flexible Renamer [vector.co.jp] (somewhat prone to crashing, but the most versatile and powerful I've found).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755988</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755402</id>
	<title>If you scream...</title>
	<author>terminalhype</author>
	<datestamp>1263374040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>In space, no one can hear you scream at Microsoft Outlook...</htmltext>
<tokenext>In space , no one can hear you scream at Microsoft Outlook.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In space, no one can hear you scream at Microsoft Outlook...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30758120</id>
	<title>Re:Architecture?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263385920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's too bad the article didn't address the architecture behind all this.  I would be curious to hear what kind of network they use, and what sort of relays (satellite?).  If it is satellites, why is the bandwidth so low? (Hmmm... maybe they really should have made that ethernet cable just a little longer after all...)</p></div><p>It has actually <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/11/03/1842247/The-Tech-Aboard-the-International-Space-Station?from=rss" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">already been covered</a> [slashdot.org] on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's too bad the article did n't address the architecture behind all this .
I would be curious to hear what kind of network they use , and what sort of relays ( satellite ? ) .
If it is satellites , why is the bandwidth so low ?
( Hmmm... maybe they really should have made that ethernet cable just a little longer after all... ) It has actually already been covered [ slashdot.org ] on / .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's too bad the article didn't address the architecture behind all this.
I would be curious to hear what kind of network they use, and what sort of relays (satellite?).
If it is satellites, why is the bandwidth so low?
(Hmmm... maybe they really should have made that ethernet cable just a little longer after all...)It has actually already been covered [slashdot.org] on /.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755538</id>
	<title>Greetings Earthling!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263374580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am a Martian prince from the Splugorthian region of the Xylerom.  I have inherited a bountiful estate worth 1.8345E8 drow'xlian that I must hide from the ruthless Prxyzzilic crime family.  I am willing to share 20\% of my fortune with you will allow me to deposit fund in your account.  Please send me your account information if you wish to do business.

Live long and prosper!

Prince Ryzzriwz</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am a Martian prince from the Splugorthian region of the Xylerom .
I have inherited a bountiful estate worth 1.8345E8 drow'xlian that I must hide from the ruthless Prxyzzilic crime family .
I am willing to share 20 \ % of my fortune with you will allow me to deposit fund in your account .
Please send me your account information if you wish to do business .
Live long and prosper !
Prince Ryzzriwz</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am a Martian prince from the Splugorthian region of the Xylerom.
I have inherited a bountiful estate worth 1.8345E8 drow'xlian that I must hide from the ruthless Prxyzzilic crime family.
I am willing to share 20\% of my fortune with you will allow me to deposit fund in your account.
Please send me your account information if you wish to do business.
Live long and prosper!
Prince Ryzzriwz</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755488</id>
	<title>Architecture?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263374400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's too bad the article didn't address the architecture behind all this.  I would be curious to hear what kind of network they use, and what sort of relays (satellite?).  If it is satellites, why is the bandwidth so low? (Hmmm... maybe they really should have made that ethernet cable just a little longer after all...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's too bad the article did n't address the architecture behind all this .
I would be curious to hear what kind of network they use , and what sort of relays ( satellite ? ) .
If it is satellites , why is the bandwidth so low ?
( Hmmm... maybe they really should have made that ethernet cable just a little longer after all... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's too bad the article didn't address the architecture behind all this.
I would be curious to hear what kind of network they use, and what sort of relays (satellite?).
If it is satellites, why is the bandwidth so low?
(Hmmm... maybe they really should have made that ethernet cable just a little longer after all...)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756186</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263377040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whys that?  Because the terminal window on your monitor takes less energy to display?  Nope, thats not true without using an LED display (not LED backlight, the entire thing has to be LED or it doesn't make a difference).</p><p>You think that just displaying a GUI consumes energy?  Please provide a citation.  Any GUI on a modern OS doesn't require any processing power for displaying something on the screen that is static.  You update the screen to current and it sits there.</p><p>Outlook isn't constantly drawing the entire display for each frame of your monitors refresh, the video card is, and it works the exact same way regardless of using the command line or a gui app, especially since you probably would end up using a terminal client on a system running in GUI mode and not traditional text console mode anyway.</p><p>Then couple in the additional wasted time from the incredibly niave and out of touch with reality since you have the idea that YOUR mail client is some how more efficient than theres.</p><p>Its cute that you have tunnel vision and are a retarded fanboy rather than having any sort of logical thought on the issue.</p><p>Good job, you've once again reassured my previous experiences that contrary to popular belief, MIT produces nothing but ignorant douche bags who think they know a lot more than they actually do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whys that ?
Because the terminal window on your monitor takes less energy to display ?
Nope , thats not true without using an LED display ( not LED backlight , the entire thing has to be LED or it does n't make a difference ) .You think that just displaying a GUI consumes energy ?
Please provide a citation .
Any GUI on a modern OS does n't require any processing power for displaying something on the screen that is static .
You update the screen to current and it sits there.Outlook is n't constantly drawing the entire display for each frame of your monitors refresh , the video card is , and it works the exact same way regardless of using the command line or a gui app , especially since you probably would end up using a terminal client on a system running in GUI mode and not traditional text console mode anyway.Then couple in the additional wasted time from the incredibly niave and out of touch with reality since you have the idea that YOUR mail client is some how more efficient than theres.Its cute that you have tunnel vision and are a retarded fanboy rather than having any sort of logical thought on the issue.Good job , you 've once again reassured my previous experiences that contrary to popular belief , MIT produces nothing but ignorant douche bags who think they know a lot more than they actually do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whys that?
Because the terminal window on your monitor takes less energy to display?
Nope, thats not true without using an LED display (not LED backlight, the entire thing has to be LED or it doesn't make a difference).You think that just displaying a GUI consumes energy?
Please provide a citation.
Any GUI on a modern OS doesn't require any processing power for displaying something on the screen that is static.
You update the screen to current and it sits there.Outlook isn't constantly drawing the entire display for each frame of your monitors refresh, the video card is, and it works the exact same way regardless of using the command line or a gui app, especially since you probably would end up using a terminal client on a system running in GUI mode and not traditional text console mode anyway.Then couple in the additional wasted time from the incredibly niave and out of touch with reality since you have the idea that YOUR mail client is some how more efficient than theres.Its cute that you have tunnel vision and are a retarded fanboy rather than having any sort of logical thought on the issue.Good job, you've once again reassured my previous experiences that contrary to popular belief, MIT produces nothing but ignorant douche bags who think they know a lot more than they actually do.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755268</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755590</id>
	<title>UUCP?</title>
	<author>shutton</author>
	<datestamp>1263374760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>UUCP worked quite nicely in the days when links were ephemeral, slow, or generally unreliable.  This seems like a lot of effort to solve a problem that existed 30 years ago, solved, and even adapted for RFC821 and its successors.  There's a reason that Sendmail knows how to rewrite addresses!</htmltext>
<tokenext>UUCP worked quite nicely in the days when links were ephemeral , slow , or generally unreliable .
This seems like a lot of effort to solve a problem that existed 30 years ago , solved , and even adapted for RFC821 and its successors .
There 's a reason that Sendmail knows how to rewrite addresses !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>UUCP worked quite nicely in the days when links were ephemeral, slow, or generally unreliable.
This seems like a lot of effort to solve a problem that existed 30 years ago, solved, and even adapted for RFC821 and its successors.
There's a reason that Sendmail knows how to rewrite addresses!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755464</id>
	<title>Re:80's tech</title>
	<author>OverlordQ</author>
	<datestamp>1263374280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just seems like it could be done a lot easier shuttling around gzipped mbox files.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just seems like it could be done a lot easier shuttling around gzipped mbox files .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just seems like it could be done a lot easier shuttling around gzipped mbox files.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755316</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755922</id>
	<title>Scary technology...</title>
	<author>The Redster!</author>
	<datestamp>1263376020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Windows exists <i>above</i> the cloud!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows exists above the cloud !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows exists above the cloud!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755478</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263374340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You waster!</p><p>I only transmit messages via telepathy!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You waster ! I only transmit messages via telepathy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You waster!I only transmit messages via telepathy!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755268</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30759600</id>
	<title>NIKE JORDAN SHOES,COACH,GUCCI,HANDBAG,POLO,TSHIRTS</title>
	<author>Lawrence1986</author>
	<datestamp>1263392760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.allbyer.com/" title="allbyer.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.allbyer.com/</a> [allbyer.com]
Hi,Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,Here are the most popular, most stylish and avant-garde shoes,handbags,Tshirts, jacket,Tracksuit w ect...NIKE SHOX,JORDAN SHOES 1-24,AF,DUNK,SB,PUMA<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,R4,NZ,OZ,T1-TL3) $35HANDBGAS(COACH,L V, DG, ED HARDY) $35TSHIRTS (POLO<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,ED HARDY, LACOSTE) $16
thanks... For details, please consult <a href="http://www.allbyer.com/" title="allbyer.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.allbyer.com/</a> [allbyer.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.allbyer.com/ [ allbyer.com ] Hi,Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,Here are the most popular , most stylish and avant-garde shoes,handbags,Tshirts , jacket,Tracksuit w ect...NIKE SHOX,JORDAN SHOES 1-24,AF,DUNK,SB,PUMA ,R4,NZ,OZ,T1-TL3 ) $ 35HANDBGAS ( COACH,L V , DG , ED HARDY ) $ 35TSHIRTS ( POLO ,ED HARDY , LACOSTE ) $ 16 thanks... For details , please consult http : //www.allbyer.com/ [ allbyer.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.allbyer.com/ [allbyer.com]
Hi,Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,Here are the most popular, most stylish and avant-garde shoes,handbags,Tshirts, jacket,Tracksuit w ect...NIKE SHOX,JORDAN SHOES 1-24,AF,DUNK,SB,PUMA ,R4,NZ,OZ,T1-TL3) $35HANDBGAS(COACH,L V, DG, ED HARDY) $35TSHIRTS (POLO ,ED HARDY, LACOSTE) $16
thanks... For details, please consult http://www.allbyer.com/ [allbyer.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755780</id>
	<title>Nuke Outlook From Orbit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263375480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's the only way to be sure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the only way to be sure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the only way to be sure.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755726</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>harlows\_monkeys</author>
	<datestamp>1263375240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They have to be very careful in a close environment such as the shuttle or the space station to keep the air healthy. Using mailx like you do would give off too much smug for their filters and cleaners to handle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They have to be very careful in a close environment such as the shuttle or the space station to keep the air healthy .
Using mailx like you do would give off too much smug for their filters and cleaners to handle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They have to be very careful in a close environment such as the shuttle or the space station to keep the air healthy.
Using mailx like you do would give off too much smug for their filters and cleaners to handle.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755268</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30758574</id>
	<title>My idea...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263387540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not an Exchange admin by any means, but I can think of an easier way using Exchange.</p><p>Set up Exchange clients to connect to a specific IP address.<br>On the ground, let the "spam team" deal with clearing out the mailboxes of spam.<br>Once complete, disable the IP address that connects to the world, and enable the IP address that connects to space.  Let the space people do their thing, then when the spam team does their thing again, shut down the space link, open up the earth link, and let the queued messages flow in.<br>Rinse and repeat.</p><p>This allows minimal data transfer, as only changes are being synchronized, not the whole mailbox.  It also allows the boxes to be screened.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not an Exchange admin by any means , but I can think of an easier way using Exchange.Set up Exchange clients to connect to a specific IP address.On the ground , let the " spam team " deal with clearing out the mailboxes of spam.Once complete , disable the IP address that connects to the world , and enable the IP address that connects to space .
Let the space people do their thing , then when the spam team does their thing again , shut down the space link , open up the earth link , and let the queued messages flow in.Rinse and repeat.This allows minimal data transfer , as only changes are being synchronized , not the whole mailbox .
It also allows the boxes to be screened .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not an Exchange admin by any means, but I can think of an easier way using Exchange.Set up Exchange clients to connect to a specific IP address.On the ground, let the "spam team" deal with clearing out the mailboxes of spam.Once complete, disable the IP address that connects to the world, and enable the IP address that connects to space.
Let the space people do their thing, then when the spam team does their thing again, shut down the space link, open up the earth link, and let the queued messages flow in.Rinse and repeat.This allows minimal data transfer, as only changes are being synchronized, not the whole mailbox.
It also allows the boxes to be screened.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756512</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263378480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you have 500 pictures of antique desks named antique001, antique001, etc it would take forever to rename them desk001, desk002, etc in a GUI.</p></div><p>Vista / Win7 both have this feature in the GUI.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you have 500 pictures of antique desks named antique001 , antique001 , etc it would take forever to rename them desk001 , desk002 , etc in a GUI.Vista / Win7 both have this feature in the GUI .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you have 500 pictures of antique desks named antique001, antique001, etc it would take forever to rename them desk001, desk002, etc in a GUI.Vista / Win7 both have this feature in the GUI.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755988</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30758386</id>
	<title>what a waste</title>
	<author>pydev</author>
	<datestamp>1263386880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Instead of flaky Outlook/Exchange setups, they should use technology designed for low bandwidth and intermittent connections, like uucp.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Instead of flaky Outlook/Exchange setups , they should use technology designed for low bandwidth and intermittent connections , like uucp .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Instead of flaky Outlook/Exchange setups, they should use technology designed for low bandwidth and intermittent connections, like uucp.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755430</id>
	<title>What about something a bit more immediate, but...</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1263374160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...not quite realtime or important?</p><p>Yeah, I wonder what kind of IM they are using, if any (I know there were some sessions with Packet Radio and its "IM" functionality, though I'm not sure if that counts)</p><p>PS. Thinkpads aren't ordinary laptops!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...not quite realtime or important ? Yeah , I wonder what kind of IM they are using , if any ( I know there were some sessions with Packet Radio and its " IM " functionality , though I 'm not sure if that counts ) PS .
Thinkpads are n't ordinary laptops !
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...not quite realtime or important?Yeah, I wonder what kind of IM they are using, if any (I know there were some sessions with Packet Radio and its "IM" functionality, though I'm not sure if that counts)PS.
Thinkpads aren't ordinary laptops!
;)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756100</id>
	<title>Re:Direct TV Satellite Internet......</title>
	<author>ubercam</author>
	<datestamp>1263376680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A couple problems...</p><p>1) Due to the fact that the ISS orbits Earth very quickly, with an orbital period of 91 minutes, you'd barely get your receiver up and running and locked onto the signal before it disappeared again. DirecTV doesn't work on the opposite side of the planet to the USA, and the planet definitely makes a better door than a window in this case.<br>2) TV birds are generally spot beamed. Yes the ISS orbits much closer to Earth than satellites in geostationary orbit, but regardless, if you're outside of the spot beam, you might not get much of a signal. Also, as in my first point, the planet tends to get in the way.<br>3) The astronauts presumably have much more important things to do, like trying not to screw up and kill everyone on board, science experiments, station maintenance/building, etc, than to goof around with some stupid satellite TV service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A couple problems...1 ) Due to the fact that the ISS orbits Earth very quickly , with an orbital period of 91 minutes , you 'd barely get your receiver up and running and locked onto the signal before it disappeared again .
DirecTV does n't work on the opposite side of the planet to the USA , and the planet definitely makes a better door than a window in this case.2 ) TV birds are generally spot beamed .
Yes the ISS orbits much closer to Earth than satellites in geostationary orbit , but regardless , if you 're outside of the spot beam , you might not get much of a signal .
Also , as in my first point , the planet tends to get in the way.3 ) The astronauts presumably have much more important things to do , like trying not to screw up and kill everyone on board , science experiments , station maintenance/building , etc , than to goof around with some stupid satellite TV service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A couple problems...1) Due to the fact that the ISS orbits Earth very quickly, with an orbital period of 91 minutes, you'd barely get your receiver up and running and locked onto the signal before it disappeared again.
DirecTV doesn't work on the opposite side of the planet to the USA, and the planet definitely makes a better door than a window in this case.2) TV birds are generally spot beamed.
Yes the ISS orbits much closer to Earth than satellites in geostationary orbit, but regardless, if you're outside of the spot beam, you might not get much of a signal.
Also, as in my first point, the planet tends to get in the way.3) The astronauts presumably have much more important things to do, like trying not to screw up and kill everyone on board, science experiments, station maintenance/building, etc, than to goof around with some stupid satellite TV service.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756760</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>joeslugg</author>
	<datestamp>1263379620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some GUI's <a href="http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-apps/dolphin/quick-tips.html#batch-rename" title="kde.org" rel="nofollow">include</a> [kde.org] that sort of capability too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some GUI 's include [ kde.org ] that sort of capability too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some GUI's include [kde.org] that sort of capability too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755988</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30757622</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like a bad idea to me</title>
	<author>larry bagina</author>
	<datestamp>1263383640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>a $100 arm-based <a href="http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/c-2-globalscale-technologies-products.aspx" title="globalscal...logies.com" rel="nofollow">sheevaplug</a> [globalscal...logies.com] running linux is more than enough server and doesn't need much electricity.</htmltext>
<tokenext>a $ 100 arm-based sheevaplug [ globalscal...logies.com ] running linux is more than enough server and does n't need much electricity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a $100 arm-based sheevaplug [globalscal...logies.com] running linux is more than enough server and doesn't need much electricity.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30757050</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30759122</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263390120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Noob!  I hold the ethernet cable on my tongue and decipher the signal with my nerves.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Noob !
I hold the ethernet cable on my tongue and decipher the signal with my nerves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Noob!
I hold the ethernet cable on my tongue and decipher the signal with my nerves.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30757228</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756282</id>
	<title>Re:Yikes!</title>
	<author>Arthur Grumbine</author>
	<datestamp>1263377520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just knowing Windows is running in space kind of gives me the willies.</p></div><p>No joke. This seriously hampers any efforts to nuke it from orbit.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just knowing Windows is running in space kind of gives me the willies.No joke .
This seriously hampers any efforts to nuke it from orbit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just knowing Windows is running in space kind of gives me the willies.No joke.
This seriously hampers any efforts to nuke it from orbit.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755482</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30758106</id>
	<title>Pleonasm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263385860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Microsoft Outlook (currently Outlook 2003) with Exchange Server as the email host, but they don't link to the server using any of the standard methods.</p><p>Because of [M$ POSS], they don't link to the server using any of the standard methods.</p><p>There, FTFY.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Microsoft Outlook ( currently Outlook 2003 ) with Exchange Server as the email host , but they do n't link to the server using any of the standard methods.Because of [ M $ POSS ] , they do n't link to the server using any of the standard methods.There , FTFY .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Microsoft Outlook (currently Outlook 2003) with Exchange Server as the email host, but they don't link to the server using any of the standard methods.Because of [M$ POSS], they don't link to the server using any of the standard methods.There, FTFY.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30761502</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like a bad idea to me</title>
	<author>fm6</author>
	<datestamp>1263412140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And isn't the whole point of Outlook that it has a built in calendar and meeting request system and network folders? They're not even using those more advanced parts of it, they just need email.</p></div><p>Dude, without the calendar feature, how are they going to know when to land?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And is n't the whole point of Outlook that it has a built in calendar and meeting request system and network folders ?
They 're not even using those more advanced parts of it , they just need email.Dude , without the calendar feature , how are they going to know when to land ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And isn't the whole point of Outlook that it has a built in calendar and meeting request system and network folders?
They're not even using those more advanced parts of it, they just need email.Dude, without the calendar feature, how are they going to know when to land?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755690</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755930</id>
	<title>Funny thing is, they got infected once</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1263376020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In fact, you should be surprised that Windows is \_STILL\_ running after a Virus has hit the ISS orbiting the planet.</p><p>No kidding, Google it.</p><p>It is particularly sad that NASA IT guys aren't obviously that pathetic to license Outlook from MS. Something really going on there, a lot of open source software/operating systems has NASA contributed excellent code in them.</p><p>PS: I remember they also had Norton Utilities with "rescue diskettes" back in 1990s, it leaked while I was trying to find a way to manually uninstall norton...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In fact , you should be surprised that Windows is \ _STILL \ _ running after a Virus has hit the ISS orbiting the planet.No kidding , Google it.It is particularly sad that NASA IT guys are n't obviously that pathetic to license Outlook from MS. Something really going on there , a lot of open source software/operating systems has NASA contributed excellent code in them.PS : I remember they also had Norton Utilities with " rescue diskettes " back in 1990s , it leaked while I was trying to find a way to manually uninstall norton.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In fact, you should be surprised that Windows is \_STILL\_ running after a Virus has hit the ISS orbiting the planet.No kidding, Google it.It is particularly sad that NASA IT guys aren't obviously that pathetic to license Outlook from MS. Something really going on there, a lot of open source software/operating systems has NASA contributed excellent code in them.PS: I remember they also had Norton Utilities with "rescue diskettes" back in 1990s, it leaked while I was trying to find a way to manually uninstall norton...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755482</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756148</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263376860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean CTRL+A, right-click, rename, (type filename), enter takes forever?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean CTRL + A , right-click , rename , ( type filename ) , enter takes forever ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean CTRL+A, right-click, rename, (type filename), enter takes forever?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755988</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756366</id>
	<title>Re:80's tech</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1263377940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm just surprised that they have to do this at all. They're in LEO, not on Mars. Shouldn't they be able to manage communications at least as well as even the simplest communications satellite (which can do a LOT more bandwidth that little 4MB bursts)?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm just surprised that they have to do this at all .
They 're in LEO , not on Mars .
Should n't they be able to manage communications at least as well as even the simplest communications satellite ( which can do a LOT more bandwidth that little 4MB bursts ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm just surprised that they have to do this at all.
They're in LEO, not on Mars.
Shouldn't they be able to manage communications at least as well as even the simplest communications satellite (which can do a LOT more bandwidth that little 4MB bursts)?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755316</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30758156</id>
	<title>Re:Congratulations NASA, you've caught up with 197</title>
	<author>Sprouticus</author>
	<datestamp>1263385980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lets see they were using tech from 1948 in 1969 so that means.....yup 1978 sounds about right. Pretty soon they are going to put a microwave in the shuttle too. {insert microwave space joke here}</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lets see they were using tech from 1948 in 1969 so that means.....yup 1978 sounds about right .
Pretty soon they are going to put a microwave in the shuttle too .
{ insert microwave space joke here }</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lets see they were using tech from 1948 in 1969 so that means.....yup 1978 sounds about right.
Pretty soon they are going to put a microwave in the shuttle too.
{insert microwave space joke here}</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756530</id>
	<title>I was so hopeful...</title>
	<author>Kozz</author>
	<datestamp>1263378600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When skimming my RSS feed, I'd have sworn the headline had said, "Nuking Outlook From Orbit".  Maybe my subconscious was imagining a one-upsmanship over "Will it Blend" to "Will it Nuke".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When skimming my RSS feed , I 'd have sworn the headline had said , " Nuking Outlook From Orbit " .
Maybe my subconscious was imagining a one-upsmanship over " Will it Blend " to " Will it Nuke " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When skimming my RSS feed, I'd have sworn the headline had said, "Nuking Outlook From Orbit".
Maybe my subconscious was imagining a one-upsmanship over "Will it Blend" to "Will it Nuke".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755980</id>
	<title>Re:Yikes!</title>
	<author>lewp</author>
	<datestamp>1263376200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really? I would think that's the safest place for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ?
I would think that 's the safest place for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really?
I would think that's the safest place for it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30759042</id>
	<title>Re:Yikes!</title>
	<author>xxuserxx</author>
	<datestamp>1263389700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well the Navy used NT for part of the Tomahawk weapons system so I think its fine that they use windows in space.  Stop living in the past Windows is king.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well the Navy used NT for part of the Tomahawk weapons system so I think its fine that they use windows in space .
Stop living in the past Windows is king .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well the Navy used NT for part of the Tomahawk weapons system so I think its fine that they use windows in space.
Stop living in the past Windows is king.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756198</id>
	<title>Re:80's tech</title>
	<author>FlyingBishop</author>
	<datestamp>1263377100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why pay for an exchange license if practically all you need is mailman?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why pay for an exchange license if practically all you need is mailman ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why pay for an exchange license if practically all you need is mailman?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30760314</id>
	<title>Nuking it from where?</title>
	<author>DaTrueDave</author>
	<datestamp>1263399180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>What do you mean it's the only way to be sure?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What do you mean it 's the only way to be sure ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What do you mean it's the only way to be sure?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30759786</id>
	<title>Sounds like a job for UUCP</title>
	<author>drfreak</author>
	<datestamp>1263394380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I often look nostalgically back and think of the old bang paths for e-mail. Boy, I don't miss 'em!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I often look nostalgically back and think of the old bang paths for e-mail .
Boy , I do n't miss 'em !
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I often look nostalgically back and think of the old bang paths for e-mail.
Boy, I don't miss 'em!
:)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755634</id>
	<title>Re:Yikes!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263374880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just knowing Windows is running in space kind of gives me the willies.</p></div><p>Would you open Windows on the ISS???</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just knowing Windows is running in space kind of gives me the willies.Would you open Windows on the ISS ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just knowing Windows is running in space kind of gives me the willies.Would you open Windows on the ISS??
?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755724</id>
	<title>Old technology is new again?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263375240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't this how e-mail worked only 20 years ago?  I remember only getting mail two times a day at my university for a year or two because that was the only time the mail server dialed upstream and exchanged mail.  Congratulations to NASA for reinventing old technology.  Next up, if only there were some kind of small device that would let you add two numbers together and give you the answer.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't this how e-mail worked only 20 years ago ?
I remember only getting mail two times a day at my university for a year or two because that was the only time the mail server dialed upstream and exchanged mail .
Congratulations to NASA for reinventing old technology .
Next up , if only there were some kind of small device that would let you add two numbers together and give you the answer.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't this how e-mail worked only 20 years ago?
I remember only getting mail two times a day at my university for a year or two because that was the only time the mail server dialed upstream and exchanged mail.
Congratulations to NASA for reinventing old technology.
Next up, if only there were some kind of small device that would let you add two numbers together and give you the answer.....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755452</id>
	<title>Re:80's tech</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263374280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can you say "FidoNet"?
<br>
BTW, what's ZMH for Earth Orbit?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you say " FidoNet " ?
BTW , what 's ZMH for Earth Orbit ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you say "FidoNet"?
BTW, what's ZMH for Earth Orbit?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30755288</id>
	<title>Bandwidth constraint?</title>
	<author>Seriousity</author>
	<datestamp>1263373680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Pah! In soviet spacestation we constrain bandwidth!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pah !
In soviet spacestation we constrain bandwidth !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pah!
In soviet spacestation we constrain bandwidth!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30761870</id>
	<title>Re:mail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263461160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But you know what a GUI <i>is</i> good for? Viewing those images<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But you know what a GUI is good for ?
Viewing those images : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But you know what a GUI is good for?
Viewing those images :)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30758374</id>
	<title>Re:Architecture?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263386820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I worked for the FAO, Flight Activity Office, developing applications about 15 yrs ago.  These are the people who historically have provided email, fax and other document updates during missions to the astronauts for both shuttle and station missions.</p><p>At the time I was there, the data connection was 115 cps (no KB) connection. The IBM laptops were running WFW 3.11 with battery packs duct taped to the bottom. I think they took 4 or 5 up with each mission. The modems were highly specialized. Voice communications weren't encrypted, so email or fax was the most secure method of communication available.  Also, the flight network in the FCR building was completely separate from the rest of the network at JSC for security concerns. That really isn't true, there was an outbound TTL limited connection for real-time data, but that didn't leave the campus. No inbound connections were allowed except through an "introduction" workstation or 1 computer in the FAQ back room where we ran antivirus checks on the manually copied over email files. Sneakernet.  That's how it was. I doubt they get full access to their normal Earth-bound mailboxes. Astronauts don't have time to read much email while on a mission. I bet it is still highly filtered by a real person.</p><p>After I left, I understand they ran the JSC network into the entire control room for PCs so the controllers could check their email, but there was no mixing of flight control network with the JSC network (unless you wanted to be FIRED).</p><p>I suspect the LEO network has improved, but I have my doubts about non-LOS networking. There are always places in orbit with no ground contact on every orbit.  Now, I'd probably setup an extremely low power linux server as an email gateway on both sides and use UUCP since the connection is "sometimes connected", not always connected.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I worked for the FAO , Flight Activity Office , developing applications about 15 yrs ago .
These are the people who historically have provided email , fax and other document updates during missions to the astronauts for both shuttle and station missions.At the time I was there , the data connection was 115 cps ( no KB ) connection .
The IBM laptops were running WFW 3.11 with battery packs duct taped to the bottom .
I think they took 4 or 5 up with each mission .
The modems were highly specialized .
Voice communications were n't encrypted , so email or fax was the most secure method of communication available .
Also , the flight network in the FCR building was completely separate from the rest of the network at JSC for security concerns .
That really is n't true , there was an outbound TTL limited connection for real-time data , but that did n't leave the campus .
No inbound connections were allowed except through an " introduction " workstation or 1 computer in the FAQ back room where we ran antivirus checks on the manually copied over email files .
Sneakernet. That 's how it was .
I doubt they get full access to their normal Earth-bound mailboxes .
Astronauts do n't have time to read much email while on a mission .
I bet it is still highly filtered by a real person.After I left , I understand they ran the JSC network into the entire control room for PCs so the controllers could check their email , but there was no mixing of flight control network with the JSC network ( unless you wanted to be FIRED ) .I suspect the LEO network has improved , but I have my doubts about non-LOS networking .
There are always places in orbit with no ground contact on every orbit .
Now , I 'd probably setup an extremely low power linux server as an email gateway on both sides and use UUCP since the connection is " sometimes connected " , not always connected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I worked for the FAO, Flight Activity Office, developing applications about 15 yrs ago.
These are the people who historically have provided email, fax and other document updates during missions to the astronauts for both shuttle and station missions.At the time I was there, the data connection was 115 cps (no KB) connection.
The IBM laptops were running WFW 3.11 with battery packs duct taped to the bottom.
I think they took 4 or 5 up with each mission.
The modems were highly specialized.
Voice communications weren't encrypted, so email or fax was the most secure method of communication available.
Also, the flight network in the FCR building was completely separate from the rest of the network at JSC for security concerns.
That really isn't true, there was an outbound TTL limited connection for real-time data, but that didn't leave the campus.
No inbound connections were allowed except through an "introduction" workstation or 1 computer in the FAQ back room where we ran antivirus checks on the manually copied over email files.
Sneakernet.  That's how it was.
I doubt they get full access to their normal Earth-bound mailboxes.
Astronauts don't have time to read much email while on a mission.
I bet it is still highly filtered by a real person.After I left, I understand they ran the JSC network into the entire control room for PCs so the controllers could check their email, but there was no mixing of flight control network with the JSC network (unless you wanted to be FIRED).I suspect the LEO network has improved, but I have my doubts about non-LOS networking.
There are always places in orbit with no ground contact on every orbit.
Now, I'd probably setup an extremely low power linux server as an email gateway on both sides and use UUCP since the connection is "sometimes connected", not always connected.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1953238.30756462</id>
	<title>This hurt to read.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263378240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>These OST files are tiny by ground-based standards &ndash; around at most 4MB for shuttle crew.</p></div><p>Amazing.  A just over a half-dozen people and yet they manage to keep their email communications down to just 2,000 pages of text a day!  How do they manage.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The OST file, now with outgoing emails, is copied back to NASA on the ground where the messages are sent, copied to the Sent Items folder and any new email is placed in the OST ready for the next upload.</p></div><p>Well, that makes sense.  They reply with the same type of file that they receive with.  If it's good for bandwidth one way, it's good for bandwidth the other I'd guess.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Because there&rsquo;s limited bandwidth up to the shuttle it&rsquo;s important to keep the OST fairly small so occasionally you&rsquo;ll hear NASA controllers ask the crew to clean out their Outlook files (the OST).</p></div><p>Whajah?  They're sending the *entire* mailbox both ways and just bouncing the same messages back and forth every time?   How does that save bandwidth?  How do these guys send pictures to each other, zip up an image of the entire hard drive?</p><p>I guess that explains why they need to transfer 2,000+ pages of text every day.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>This sounds cumbersome and messy</p></div><p>  True.  Because it is cumbersome and messy.  </p><p><div class="quote"><p>it&rsquo;s certainly not the way you&rsquo;d do it here on the Green Hills of Earth.</p></div><p>It's also not the way I'd do it in space either, because of the bandwidth constraints.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>However it makes sense</p></div><p> No it doesn't.  Not under any circumstance does "send the whole thing back and forth every time" make sense if the thing you're trying to conserve is bandwidth.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>You might also hear &lsquo;CapCom&rsquo; asking the crew to shut down their copies of Outlook so that an OST transfer can occur. Outlook puts a file lock on any PST/OST file which prevents any copying (a problem anyone trying to do an Outlook backup might be familiar with).</p></div><p>Ahh, so that's it.  They're not trying to conserve bandwidth.  They're trying to conserve "thinking about it."  Otherwise, they'd only have to shut down outlook when renaming "file.ost.xfer" to "c:\...\outlookdir\file.ost"</p><p><div class="quote"><p>In addition, communication with the ground isn&rsquo;t always possible (you&rsquo;ll hear warnings of LOS &ndash; Loss of Signal during mission communications) so standard methods of email transfer like POP/SMTP, IMAP etc might not be reliable.</p></div><p>  True.  Why does it need to be email, though.  Why can't they just send a psk-31 HF radiogram?  or the even more fault tolerant HF packet radio? You only need a transmit station somewhere in the same hemisphere for that to work.</p><p>Hell, with a directional antenna (and a doppler-compensating transmitter), there's no reason why they couldn't use 3G cell service when over a country which has it.  300 miles up gets you  a window of up to 11 minutes which would let you download quite a bit.</p><p>But I don't think bandwidth is really the issue.  There's enough bandwidth to transmit live video for pete's sake, but email is somehow a problem?  The issue is that "outlook is email."  It clearly has simply never occurred to anyone in the chain that there might even <b>be</b> any other way to handle email-type communications.</p></div>
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<tokenext>These OST files are tiny by ground-based standards    around at most 4MB for shuttle crew.Amazing .
A just over a half-dozen people and yet they manage to keep their email communications down to just 2,000 pages of text a day !
How do they manage.The OST file , now with outgoing emails , is copied back to NASA on the ground where the messages are sent , copied to the Sent Items folder and any new email is placed in the OST ready for the next upload.Well , that makes sense .
They reply with the same type of file that they receive with .
If it 's good for bandwidth one way , it 's good for bandwidth the other I 'd guess.Because there    s limited bandwidth up to the shuttle it    s important to keep the OST fairly small so occasionally you    ll hear NASA controllers ask the crew to clean out their Outlook files ( the OST ) .Whajah ?
They 're sending the * entire * mailbox both ways and just bouncing the same messages back and forth every time ?
How does that save bandwidth ?
How do these guys send pictures to each other , zip up an image of the entire hard drive ? I guess that explains why they need to transfer 2,000 + pages of text every day.This sounds cumbersome and messy True .
Because it is cumbersome and messy .
it    s certainly not the way you    d do it here on the Green Hills of Earth.It 's also not the way I 'd do it in space either , because of the bandwidth constraints.However it makes sense No it does n't .
Not under any circumstance does " send the whole thing back and forth every time " make sense if the thing you 're trying to conserve is bandwidth.You might also hear    CapCom    asking the crew to shut down their copies of Outlook so that an OST transfer can occur .
Outlook puts a file lock on any PST/OST file which prevents any copying ( a problem anyone trying to do an Outlook backup might be familiar with ) .Ahh , so that 's it .
They 're not trying to conserve bandwidth .
They 're trying to conserve " thinking about it .
" Otherwise , they 'd only have to shut down outlook when renaming " file.ost.xfer " to " c : \ ... \ outlookdir \ file.ost " In addition , communication with the ground isn    t always possible ( you    ll hear warnings of LOS    Loss of Signal during mission communications ) so standard methods of email transfer like POP/SMTP , IMAP etc might not be reliable .
True. Why does it need to be email , though .
Why ca n't they just send a psk-31 HF radiogram ?
or the even more fault tolerant HF packet radio ?
You only need a transmit station somewhere in the same hemisphere for that to work.Hell , with a directional antenna ( and a doppler-compensating transmitter ) , there 's no reason why they could n't use 3G cell service when over a country which has it .
300 miles up gets you a window of up to 11 minutes which would let you download quite a bit.But I do n't think bandwidth is really the issue .
There 's enough bandwidth to transmit live video for pete 's sake , but email is somehow a problem ?
The issue is that " outlook is email .
" It clearly has simply never occurred to anyone in the chain that there might even be any other way to handle email-type communications .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These OST files are tiny by ground-based standards – around at most 4MB for shuttle crew.Amazing.
A just over a half-dozen people and yet they manage to keep their email communications down to just 2,000 pages of text a day!
How do they manage.The OST file, now with outgoing emails, is copied back to NASA on the ground where the messages are sent, copied to the Sent Items folder and any new email is placed in the OST ready for the next upload.Well, that makes sense.
They reply with the same type of file that they receive with.
If it's good for bandwidth one way, it's good for bandwidth the other I'd guess.Because there’s limited bandwidth up to the shuttle it’s important to keep the OST fairly small so occasionally you’ll hear NASA controllers ask the crew to clean out their Outlook files (the OST).Whajah?
They're sending the *entire* mailbox both ways and just bouncing the same messages back and forth every time?
How does that save bandwidth?
How do these guys send pictures to each other, zip up an image of the entire hard drive?I guess that explains why they need to transfer 2,000+ pages of text every day.This sounds cumbersome and messy  True.
Because it is cumbersome and messy.
it’s certainly not the way you’d do it here on the Green Hills of Earth.It's also not the way I'd do it in space either, because of the bandwidth constraints.However it makes sense No it doesn't.
Not under any circumstance does "send the whole thing back and forth every time" make sense if the thing you're trying to conserve is bandwidth.You might also hear ‘CapCom’ asking the crew to shut down their copies of Outlook so that an OST transfer can occur.
Outlook puts a file lock on any PST/OST file which prevents any copying (a problem anyone trying to do an Outlook backup might be familiar with).Ahh, so that's it.
They're not trying to conserve bandwidth.
They're trying to conserve "thinking about it.
"  Otherwise, they'd only have to shut down outlook when renaming "file.ost.xfer" to "c:\...\outlookdir\file.ost"In addition, communication with the ground isn’t always possible (you’ll hear warnings of LOS – Loss of Signal during mission communications) so standard methods of email transfer like POP/SMTP, IMAP etc might not be reliable.
True.  Why does it need to be email, though.
Why can't they just send a psk-31 HF radiogram?
or the even more fault tolerant HF packet radio?
You only need a transmit station somewhere in the same hemisphere for that to work.Hell, with a directional antenna (and a doppler-compensating transmitter), there's no reason why they couldn't use 3G cell service when over a country which has it.
300 miles up gets you  a window of up to 11 minutes which would let you download quite a bit.But I don't think bandwidth is really the issue.
There's enough bandwidth to transmit live video for pete's sake, but email is somehow a problem?
The issue is that "outlook is email.
"  It clearly has simply never occurred to anyone in the chain that there might even be any other way to handle email-type communications.
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