<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_13_1322225</id>
	<title>Google.cn Has Already Lifted Censorship</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1263391200000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"In an update to <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/01/12/2329231/Google-Hacked-May-Pull-Out-of-China?art\_pos=4">Google's withdrawal from China</a>, there are reports that <a href="http://publicaddress.net/6413#post6413">censorship has already been lifted</a>. It's probably taken a while to report because of Google's ranking system."</i>  Just a warning that the language on that blog post is NSFW but it does provide evidence.</htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " In an update to Google 's withdrawal from China , there are reports that censorship has already been lifted .
It 's probably taken a while to report because of Google 's ranking system .
" Just a warning that the language on that blog post is NSFW but it does provide evidence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "In an update to Google's withdrawal from China, there are reports that censorship has already been lifted.
It's probably taken a while to report because of Google's ranking system.
"  Just a warning that the language on that blog post is NSFW but it does provide evidence.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750520</id>
	<title>Re:I Don't Think Censorship's Been Lifted</title>
	<author>medlefsen</author>
	<datestamp>1263398220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html</a> [blogspot.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html [ blogspot.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html [blogspot.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749872</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30754240</id>
	<title>Re:Baidu's search results were also affected</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1263412800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you implying that Baidu might have been &ldquo;borrowing&rdquo; its search results from Google?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you implying that Baidu might have been    borrowing    its search results from Google ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you implying that Baidu might have been “borrowing” its search results from Google?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750400</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30753426</id>
	<title>Re:I only hope</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263409380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i don't think the censor is lifted.</p><p>This is the same image search result from google.com using the chinese sensitive words:</p><p>http://images.google.com/images?source=ig&amp;hl=en&amp;rlz=&amp;q=\%E5\%85\%AD\%E5\%9B\%9B\%E4\%BA\%8B\%E4\%BB\%B6&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;sa=N&amp;tab=wi</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i do n't think the censor is lifted.This is the same image search result from google.com using the chinese sensitive words : http : //images.google.com/images ? source = ig&amp;hl = en&amp;rlz = &amp;q = \ % E5 \ % 85 \ % AD \ % E5 \ % 9B \ % 9B \ % E4 \ % BA \ % 8B \ % E4 \ % BB \ % B6&amp;um = 1&amp;ie = UTF-8&amp;sa = N&amp;tab = wi</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i don't think the censor is lifted.This is the same image search result from google.com using the chinese sensitive words:http://images.google.com/images?source=ig&amp;hl=en&amp;rlz=&amp;q=\%E5\%85\%AD\%E5\%9B\%9B\%E4\%BA\%8B\%E4\%BB\%B6&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;sa=N&amp;tab=wi</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750106</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30761788</id>
	<title>Re:Google Just Can't Win</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263459900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think dropping the censorship on google.cn is to send a message to the Chinese government.  The real problem is that Google can't keep its Chinese servers secure because the Chinese government is most likely responsible for hacking Google's servers.  So Google would rather be forced to remove their physical presence from China than run unsecurable servers in China. An important part of Google's reputation is keeping their user's data safe, moreso in fact than being being perceived as not being evil, so Google really can't afford to have servers that it is unable to to secure, so staying in China could be more damaging in the long run than losing the Chinese market.</p><p>I don't think Google is evil, but this can still be viewed as a pure business decision.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think dropping the censorship on google.cn is to send a message to the Chinese government .
The real problem is that Google ca n't keep its Chinese servers secure because the Chinese government is most likely responsible for hacking Google 's servers .
So Google would rather be forced to remove their physical presence from China than run unsecurable servers in China .
An important part of Google 's reputation is keeping their user 's data safe , moreso in fact than being being perceived as not being evil , so Google really ca n't afford to have servers that it is unable to to secure , so staying in China could be more damaging in the long run than losing the Chinese market.I do n't think Google is evil , but this can still be viewed as a pure business decision .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think dropping the censorship on google.cn is to send a message to the Chinese government.
The real problem is that Google can't keep its Chinese servers secure because the Chinese government is most likely responsible for hacking Google's servers.
So Google would rather be forced to remove their physical presence from China than run unsecurable servers in China.
An important part of Google's reputation is keeping their user's data safe, moreso in fact than being being perceived as not being evil, so Google really can't afford to have servers that it is unable to to secure, so staying in China could be more damaging in the long run than losing the Chinese market.I don't think Google is evil, but this can still be viewed as a pure business decision.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750622</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30751238</id>
	<title>Err .. no it's not</title>
	<author>BESTouff</author>
	<datestamp>1263401100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google.cn fails the basic Chinese Censorship Test: <a href="http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&amp;source=hp&amp;q=tiananmen+square&amp;btnG=Google+\%E6\%90\%9C\%E7\%B4\%A2&amp;aq=2z&amp;oq=ti" title="google.cn">http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&amp;source=hp&amp;q=tiananmen+square&amp;btnG=Google+\%E6\%90\%9C\%E7\%B4\%A2&amp;aq=2z&amp;oq=ti</a> [google.cn]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google.cn fails the basic Chinese Censorship Test : http : //www.google.cn/search ? hl = zh-CN&amp;source = hp&amp;q = tiananmen + square&amp;btnG = Google + \ % E6 \ % 90 \ % 9C \ % E7 \ % B4 \ % A2&amp;aq = 2z&amp;oq = ti [ google.cn ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google.cn fails the basic Chinese Censorship Test: http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&amp;source=hp&amp;q=tiananmen+square&amp;btnG=Google+\%E6\%90\%9C\%E7\%B4\%A2&amp;aq=2z&amp;oq=ti [google.cn]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750592</id>
	<title>I give them credit for not being evil</title>
	<author>Agent0013</author>
	<datestamp>1263398460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I remember back when Google first decided to offer censored search in China they were questioned as to whether they were in keeping with their motto of not being evil. Some said that by cooperating with China at all they are participating in the evil being done. Others thought that it was better to offer some search to the people rather than none. People can still make use of a good quality search, and some illicit material will still be available since no filter is 100\%.<br> <br>

Now they could just keep cooperating with the Chinese government to stay in business there. Most companies would probably do that rather than stand up for themselves and fight back. It helps themselves as much as it is a good thing to stand for.<br> <br>

They probably have many non-altruistic reasons for doing what they are doing. But I bet the thought of their image, or brand, and how it would look depending on what they do had an impact on what they decided. So by having the motto of "Don't be Evil", they actually become less evil. And if doing good things helps their image, and helps to make them money, then so-be-it. At least good things are being done rather than more of the status-quo of mostly evil.<br> <br>

Hurray Google!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember back when Google first decided to offer censored search in China they were questioned as to whether they were in keeping with their motto of not being evil .
Some said that by cooperating with China at all they are participating in the evil being done .
Others thought that it was better to offer some search to the people rather than none .
People can still make use of a good quality search , and some illicit material will still be available since no filter is 100 \ % .
Now they could just keep cooperating with the Chinese government to stay in business there .
Most companies would probably do that rather than stand up for themselves and fight back .
It helps themselves as much as it is a good thing to stand for .
They probably have many non-altruistic reasons for doing what they are doing .
But I bet the thought of their image , or brand , and how it would look depending on what they do had an impact on what they decided .
So by having the motto of " Do n't be Evil " , they actually become less evil .
And if doing good things helps their image , and helps to make them money , then so-be-it .
At least good things are being done rather than more of the status-quo of mostly evil .
Hurray Google !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember back when Google first decided to offer censored search in China they were questioned as to whether they were in keeping with their motto of not being evil.
Some said that by cooperating with China at all they are participating in the evil being done.
Others thought that it was better to offer some search to the people rather than none.
People can still make use of a good quality search, and some illicit material will still be available since no filter is 100\%.
Now they could just keep cooperating with the Chinese government to stay in business there.
Most companies would probably do that rather than stand up for themselves and fight back.
It helps themselves as much as it is a good thing to stand for.
They probably have many non-altruistic reasons for doing what they are doing.
But I bet the thought of their image, or brand, and how it would look depending on what they do had an impact on what they decided.
So by having the motto of "Don't be Evil", they actually become less evil.
And if doing good things helps their image, and helps to make them money, then so-be-it.
At least good things are being done rather than more of the status-quo of mostly evil.
Hurray Google!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30751172</id>
	<title>Re:Germany still censored</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1263400860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Banning Youporn bolsters the red light district.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Banning Youporn bolsters the red light district .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Banning Youporn bolsters the red light district.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750264</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750308</id>
	<title>Google siding w/"human rights activists" or not?</title>
	<author>phorwich</author>
	<datestamp>1263397380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is it just me or is there a "spin disconnect" with this news stroy.  I hear and read from multiple sources that "Google" is "pulling out of China" because of cyber attacks.  My guess is most will read such stuff and concluded that google is either removing censorship or leaving<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.cn because it can't protect itself from hacking.  Reading google's post on the topic here <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html</a> [blogspot.com] seems to suggest that google is modifying its policies or leaving because "Chinese human rights activists" were primary targets.  Google doesn't go so far as to say they are siding with "Chinese human rights activists," but it does seem to be implied.

So which is it?  Is google championing "Chinese human rights activists" If so, why doesn't google focus, or redirect, the media coverage accordingly?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it just me or is there a " spin disconnect " with this news stroy .
I hear and read from multiple sources that " Google " is " pulling out of China " because of cyber attacks .
My guess is most will read such stuff and concluded that google is either removing censorship or leaving .cn because it ca n't protect itself from hacking .
Reading google 's post on the topic here http : //googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html [ blogspot.com ] seems to suggest that google is modifying its policies or leaving because " Chinese human rights activists " were primary targets .
Google does n't go so far as to say they are siding with " Chinese human rights activists , " but it does seem to be implied .
So which is it ?
Is google championing " Chinese human rights activists " If so , why does n't google focus , or redirect , the media coverage accordingly ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it just me or is there a "spin disconnect" with this news stroy.
I hear and read from multiple sources that "Google" is "pulling out of China" because of cyber attacks.
My guess is most will read such stuff and concluded that google is either removing censorship or leaving .cn because it can't protect itself from hacking.
Reading google's post on the topic here http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html [blogspot.com] seems to suggest that google is modifying its policies or leaving because "Chinese human rights activists" were primary targets.
Google doesn't go so far as to say they are siding with "Chinese human rights activists," but it does seem to be implied.
So which is it?
Is google championing "Chinese human rights activists" If so, why doesn't google focus, or redirect, the media coverage accordingly?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30755668</id>
	<title>Re:I only hope</title>
	<author>ilyag</author>
	<datestamp>1263375060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd worry more about their Chinese employees. Although, with them having nowhere to go,<br>there seems to be little to hope for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd worry more about their Chinese employees .
Although , with them having nowhere to go,there seems to be little to hope for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd worry more about their Chinese employees.
Although, with them having nowhere to go,there seems to be little to hope for.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749864</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750070</id>
	<title>Re:I only hope</title>
	<author>rvw</author>
	<datestamp>1263396180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Google's expat employees are now out of China.</p></div><p>Yeah I think the Chinese government will now cease all property that belongs to Google, send all employees to work camps, and then will start a full scale war on the US. I mean, what do they have to loose? When Google is gone, China will collapse anyway, so they might as well go with a good blast.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google 's expat employees are now out of China.Yeah I think the Chinese government will now cease all property that belongs to Google , send all employees to work camps , and then will start a full scale war on the US .
I mean , what do they have to loose ?
When Google is gone , China will collapse anyway , so they might as well go with a good blast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google's expat employees are now out of China.Yeah I think the Chinese government will now cease all property that belongs to Google, send all employees to work camps, and then will start a full scale war on the US.
I mean, what do they have to loose?
When Google is gone, China will collapse anyway, so they might as well go with a good blast.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749864</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750630</id>
	<title>Re:Germany still censored</title>
	<author>lukas84</author>
	<datestamp>1263398640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Censorship in Germany and many other European countries is done under the guise of "protecting the children" ("Jugendschutz").</p><p>Germany hasn't really learned from it's past and is heavily promoting censorship as a solution to all issues. For example, it is illegal to deny that the holocaust happened.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Censorship in Germany and many other European countries is done under the guise of " protecting the children " ( " Jugendschutz " ) .Germany has n't really learned from it 's past and is heavily promoting censorship as a solution to all issues .
For example , it is illegal to deny that the holocaust happened .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Censorship in Germany and many other European countries is done under the guise of "protecting the children" ("Jugendschutz").Germany hasn't really learned from it's past and is heavily promoting censorship as a solution to all issues.
For example, it is illegal to deny that the holocaust happened.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750264</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30752954</id>
	<title>Re:Megacorps</title>
	<author>Brian Gordon</author>
	<datestamp>1263407400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>from TFA:</p><p>"It's not Google leaving China, it's China leaving the world."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>from TFA : " It 's not Google leaving China , it 's China leaving the world .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>from TFA:"It's not Google leaving China, it's China leaving the world.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749960</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30761632</id>
	<title>Re:I only hope</title>
	<author>darthvader100</author>
	<datestamp>1263500520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google Hit number 1 for any search:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>Save our Staff in China.  Click here and donate $5 towards the google war effort.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;<br>If this works we will use our massive search technology to search for terrorists</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google Hit number 1 for any search : Save our Staff in China .
Click here and donate $ 5 towards the google war effort .
If this works we will use our massive search technology to search for terrorists</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google Hit number 1 for any search:Save our Staff in China.
Click here and donate $5 towards the google war effort.
If this works we will use our massive search technology to search for terrorists</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749960</id>
	<title>Megacorps</title>
	<author>bluefoxlucid</author>
	<datestamp>1263395580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I always wanted to own a Megacorporation, like Shin-Ra.  You know, a big business that has its own army and basically can control the government by military force.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I always wanted to own a Megacorporation , like Shin-Ra .
You know , a big business that has its own army and basically can control the government by military force .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always wanted to own a Megacorporation, like Shin-Ra.
You know, a big business that has its own army and basically can control the government by military force.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30751246</id>
	<title>Re:Google siding w/"human rights activists" or not</title>
	<author>AndrewNeo</author>
	<datestamp>1263401100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From what I read (outside of TFA) Google itself wasnt really hacked, just that Gmail accounts were broken into (which means their passwords were dictionary'd/guessed/phished).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From what I read ( outside of TFA ) Google itself wasnt really hacked , just that Gmail accounts were broken into ( which means their passwords were dictionary 'd/guessed/phished ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From what I read (outside of TFA) Google itself wasnt really hacked, just that Gmail accounts were broken into (which means their passwords were dictionary'd/guessed/phished).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750308</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30755638</id>
	<title>Re:Err .. no it's not</title>
	<author>u38cg</author>
	<datestamp>1263374940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Also, grow some clue.  Not everyone calls everything everywhere by the same name.  Try searching for "June 4th"...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , grow some clue .
Not everyone calls everything everywhere by the same name .
Try searching for " June 4th " .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, grow some clue.
Not everyone calls everything everywhere by the same name.
Try searching for "June 4th"...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30751238</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30753288</id>
	<title>Re:Falun Gong</title>
	<author>amicusNYCL</author>
	<datestamp>1263408780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It looks pretty uncensored to me, result #1 is a dead guy lying in the street.  #7 shows a bunch of tanks parked in the square.  Keep in mind it's going to take some time for the previously-excluded results to work their way up the rankings.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks pretty uncensored to me , result # 1 is a dead guy lying in the street .
# 7 shows a bunch of tanks parked in the square .
Keep in mind it 's going to take some time for the previously-excluded results to work their way up the rankings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks pretty uncensored to me, result #1 is a dead guy lying in the street.
#7 shows a bunch of tanks parked in the square.
Keep in mind it's going to take some time for the previously-excluded results to work their way up the rankings.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750416</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750312</id>
	<title>Re:Megacorps</title>
	<author>dintech</author>
	<datestamp>1263397380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who needs military to control the government when you've got cash?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who needs military to control the government when you 've got cash ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who needs military to control the government when you've got cash?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749960</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750872</id>
	<title>Re:A Business Decision?</title>
	<author>Abcd1234</author>
	<datestamp>1263399660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uh, they already said there were business considerations.  Specifically, their systems, along with those of quite a few other large companies, were hacked in order to gain information about Chinese dissidents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh , they already said there were business considerations .
Specifically , their systems , along with those of quite a few other large companies , were hacked in order to gain information about Chinese dissidents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh, they already said there were business considerations.
Specifically, their systems, along with those of quite a few other large companies, were hacked in order to gain information about Chinese dissidents.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750130</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750924</id>
	<title>Re:Falun Gong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263399840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why someone would search for Falun Gong? Politics suck! I prefer to search for http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&amp;q=chinese+girls+gang+bang. That is what we chinese are looking for: some good PORN! Leave the pathetic fag politics for the western whiteys. Porn rules! I just want my freedom to jack off in peace, that is all! Let the Americans lose their time with all this election and democracy bull shit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why someone would search for Falun Gong ?
Politics suck !
I prefer to search for http : //www.google.cn/search ? hl = zh-CN&amp;q = chinese + girls + gang + bang .
That is what we chinese are looking for : some good PORN !
Leave the pathetic fag politics for the western whiteys .
Porn rules !
I just want my freedom to jack off in peace , that is all !
Let the Americans lose their time with all this election and democracy bull shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why someone would search for Falun Gong?
Politics suck!
I prefer to search for http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&amp;q=chinese+girls+gang+bang.
That is what we chinese are looking for: some good PORN!
Leave the pathetic fag politics for the western whiteys.
Porn rules!
I just want my freedom to jack off in peace, that is all!
Let the Americans lose their time with all this election and democracy bull shit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749934</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750416</id>
	<title>Re:Falun Gong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263397800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Definitely not lifted yet. Here is the more famous example:<br><br>http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&amp;resnum=0&amp;q=tiananmen\%20square<br><br>vs.<br><br>http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&amp;source=hp&amp;q=tiananmen\%20square</htmltext>
<tokenext>Definitely not lifted yet .
Here is the more famous example : http : //images.google.cn/images ? hl = zh-CN&amp;resnum = 0&amp;q = tiananmen \ % 20squarevs.http : //images.google.ca/images ? hl = en&amp;source = hp&amp;q = tiananmen \ % 20square</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Definitely not lifted yet.
Here is the more famous example:http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&amp;resnum=0&amp;q=tiananmen\%20squarevs.http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&amp;source=hp&amp;q=tiananmen\%20square</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749934</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750498</id>
	<title>Re:Germany still censored</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263398100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Out of curiosity, are you more interested in the porn or the neo-nazi websites ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Out of curiosity , are you more interested in the porn or the neo-nazi websites ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Out of curiosity, are you more interested in the porn or the neo-nazi websites ?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750016</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30811236</id>
	<title>Re:Do No Evil</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263846360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The motto is "Don't be evil."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The motto is " Do n't be evil .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The motto is "Don't be evil.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750436</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30757354</id>
	<title>Re:Falun Gong</title>
	<author>Patch86</author>
	<datestamp>1263382380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Presumably Google.cn is itself based in China. Its crawlers will be subject to the GFW, in that it still won't be able to access sites which Chinese ISPs won't serve to it. Just because Google aren't censoring what they put out anymore, it doesn't mean that what they're putting in isn't censored by other people.</p><p>Might not that account for the difference?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Presumably Google.cn is itself based in China .
Its crawlers will be subject to the GFW , in that it still wo n't be able to access sites which Chinese ISPs wo n't serve to it .
Just because Google are n't censoring what they put out anymore , it does n't mean that what they 're putting in is n't censored by other people.Might not that account for the difference ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Presumably Google.cn is itself based in China.
Its crawlers will be subject to the GFW, in that it still won't be able to access sites which Chinese ISPs won't serve to it.
Just because Google aren't censoring what they put out anymore, it doesn't mean that what they're putting in isn't censored by other people.Might not that account for the difference?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749934</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750278</id>
	<title>Images definitely still censored</title>
	<author>jimicus</author>
	<datestamp>1263397200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Erm... Google images search for tiananmen square tank man in china:</p><p><a href="http://images.google.cn/images?hl=en&amp;safe=active&amp;um=1&amp;sa=1&amp;q=tiananmen+square+tank+man&amp;btnG=Search&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;start=0" title="google.cn">http://images.google.cn/images?hl=en&amp;safe=active&amp;um=1&amp;sa=1&amp;q=tiananmen+square+tank+man&amp;btnG=Search&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;start=0</a> [google.cn]</p><p>And on google.co.uk:</p><p><a href="http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&amp;safe=active&amp;um=1&amp;sa=1&amp;q=tiananmen+square+tank+man&amp;btnG=Search&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;start=0" title="google.co.uk">http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&amp;safe=active&amp;um=1&amp;sa=1&amp;q=tiananmen+square+tank+man&amp;btnG=Search&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;start=0</a> [google.co.uk]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Erm... Google images search for tiananmen square tank man in china : http : //images.google.cn/images ? hl = en&amp;safe = active&amp;um = 1&amp;sa = 1&amp;q = tiananmen + square + tank + man&amp;btnG = Search&amp;aq = f&amp;oq = &amp;start = 0 [ google.cn ] And on google.co.uk : http : //images.google.co.uk/images ? hl = en&amp;safe = active&amp;um = 1&amp;sa = 1&amp;q = tiananmen + square + tank + man&amp;btnG = Search&amp;aq = f&amp;oq = &amp;start = 0 [ google.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Erm... Google images search for tiananmen square tank man in china:http://images.google.cn/images?hl=en&amp;safe=active&amp;um=1&amp;sa=1&amp;q=tiananmen+square+tank+man&amp;btnG=Search&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;start=0 [google.cn]And on google.co.uk:http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&amp;safe=active&amp;um=1&amp;sa=1&amp;q=tiananmen+square+tank+man&amp;btnG=Search&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;start=0 [google.co.uk]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30760310</id>
	<title>Re:Falun Gong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263399120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do it the right way:</p><p>http://www.google.cn/search?q=\%E7\%9A\%84\%E7\%9B\%B8\%E5\%85\%B3\%E6\%90\%9C\%E7\%B4\%A2&amp;btnG=Google+\%E6\%90\%9C\%E7\%B4\%A2&amp;hl=zh-CN&amp;sa=2</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do it the right way : http : //www.google.cn/search ? q = \ % E7 \ % 9A \ % 84 \ % E7 \ % 9B \ % B8 \ % E5 \ % 85 \ % B3 \ % E6 \ % 90 \ % 9C \ % E7 \ % B4 \ % A2&amp;btnG = Google + \ % E6 \ % 90 \ % 9C \ % E7 \ % B4 \ % A2&amp;hl = zh-CN&amp;sa = 2</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do it the right way:http://www.google.cn/search?q=\%E7\%9A\%84\%E7\%9B\%B8\%E5\%85\%B3\%E6\%90\%9C\%E7\%B4\%A2&amp;btnG=Google+\%E6\%90\%9C\%E7\%B4\%A2&amp;hl=zh-CN&amp;sa=2</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749934</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750180</id>
	<title>Re:NSFW?</title>
	<author>Goaway</author>
	<datestamp>1263396780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I know that from now on, that is what I will be reading it as.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I know that from now on , that is what I will be reading it as .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I know that from now on, that is what I will be reading it as.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750086</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750740</id>
	<title>Still censored, but don't care</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263399060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am Chinese and have been using the Google.com (/ncr) for years.
Never touched that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.cn shit, and actually we call it "the eunuch Google".</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am Chinese and have been using the Google.com ( /ncr ) for years .
Never touched that .cn shit , and actually we call it " the eunuch Google " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am Chinese and have been using the Google.com (/ncr) for years.
Never touched that .cn shit, and actually we call it "the eunuch Google".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749914</id>
	<title>NSFW??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263395400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just a warning that the language on that blog post is NSFW but it does provide evidence.</p> </div><p>So, do  you by any chance work in a church?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just a warning that the language on that blog post is NSFW but it does provide evidence .
So , do you by any chance work in a church ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just a warning that the language on that blog post is NSFW but it does provide evidence.
So, do  you by any chance work in a church?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30753070</id>
	<title>Re:FTFA</title>
	<author>jandrese</author>
	<datestamp>1263407880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Isn't it also likely given Google's distributed nature that they are still in the process of removing the censorship, and sometimes you may get a censored result and sometimes you may not.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't it also likely given Google 's distributed nature that they are still in the process of removing the censorship , and sometimes you may get a censored result and sometimes you may not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't it also likely given Google's distributed nature that they are still in the process of removing the censorship, and sometimes you may get a censored result and sometimes you may not.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749874</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30751598</id>
	<title>Re:Images definitely still censored</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263402420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>split tiananmen to tian an men and you'll see pictures.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>split tiananmen to tian an men and you 'll see pictures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>split tiananmen to tian an men and you'll see pictures.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750278</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30752652</id>
	<title>Re:I only hope</title>
	<author>blueskies</author>
	<datestamp>1263406440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>China might cease to exist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>China might cease to exist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>China might cease to exist.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750554</id>
	<title>Re:I only hope</title>
	<author>hughperkins</author>
	<datestamp>1263398340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; cease all property<br>&gt; what do they have to loose?</p><p>If only spelling checkers were context-sensitive<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; cease all property &gt; what do they have to loose ? If only spelling checkers were context-sensitive : -P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; cease all property&gt; what do they have to loose?If only spelling checkers were context-sensitive :-P</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30753914</id>
	<title>Re:Germany still censored</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263411420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not enough feces.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not enough feces .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not enough feces.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750264</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750812</id>
	<title>Re:Germany still censored</title>
	<author>aquabat</author>
	<datestamp>1263399300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wish I had a funny mod point for you, Bob. That made my morning.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wish I had a funny mod point for you , Bob .
That made my morning .
: D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wish I had a funny mod point for you, Bob.
That made my morning.
:D</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750264</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749874</id>
	<title>FTFA</title>
	<author>gyepi</author>
	<datestamp>1263395160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Status @ 22:30 NZT, 17:30 Beijing time, 13-01-10: Despite reports to the contrary Google.cn is still censored."</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Status @ 22 : 30 NZT , 17 : 30 Beijing time , 13-01-10 : Despite reports to the contrary Google.cn is still censored .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Status @ 22:30 NZT, 17:30 Beijing time, 13-01-10: Despite reports to the contrary Google.cn is still censored.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750310</id>
	<title>It's just a question of time ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263397380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>China was here before Google, and will be here long after</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>China was here before Google , and will be here long after</tokentext>
<sentencetext>China was here before Google, and will be here long after</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750946</id>
	<title>Re:Germany still censored</title>
	<author>Jeremy Erwin</author>
	<datestamp>1263399900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In certain german jurisdictions, (perhaps all of them, by now) verifiable proof of age is required.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In certain german jurisdictions , ( perhaps all of them , by now ) verifiable proof of age is required .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In certain german jurisdictions, (perhaps all of them, by now) verifiable proof of age is required.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750264</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30773702</id>
	<title>What motto, really?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263477300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> So by having the motto of "Don't be Evil", </i> </p><p>But it is not their motto. It is one non-central remark on the advertising aspect of their business on their long corporate values page. Obviously it has been blown out of all proportion by brand enthusiasts over a decade ago.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So by having the motto of " Do n't be Evil " , But it is not their motto .
It is one non-central remark on the advertising aspect of their business on their long corporate values page .
Obviously it has been blown out of all proportion by brand enthusiasts over a decade ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> So by having the motto of "Don't be Evil",  But it is not their motto.
It is one non-central remark on the advertising aspect of their business on their long corporate values page.
Obviously it has been blown out of all proportion by brand enthusiasts over a decade ago.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750592</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30754476</id>
	<title>Re:Good for you, Google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263413760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just so you know, you got modded Funny cause in order for the Chinese government to do any of those things, we'd first need to stop doing business with them. We are currently doing business with them through a million other companies, so the government's current stance on human rights and IP seems not to be too big of a problem for the US at large.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just so you know , you got modded Funny cause in order for the Chinese government to do any of those things , we 'd first need to stop doing business with them .
We are currently doing business with them through a million other companies , so the government 's current stance on human rights and IP seems not to be too big of a problem for the US at large .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just so you know, you got modded Funny cause in order for the Chinese government to do any of those things, we'd first need to stop doing business with them.
We are currently doing business with them through a million other companies, so the government's current stance on human rights and IP seems not to be too big of a problem for the US at large.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750064</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749864</id>
	<title>I only hope</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263395100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google's expat employees are now out of China.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google 's expat employees are now out of China .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google's expat employees are now out of China.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30751990</id>
	<title>Re:I only hope</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1263404160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I think the Chinese government will now cease all property that belongs to Google</i></p><p><i>Will they need a seize and desist order?</i></p><p>No, just some explosives should cause them to cease. Of course, if they wanted to sieze it the explosives would be counterproductive.</p><p>Note to GP: Dew knot truss yore spill chucker un lass ewe wont two bee scene ass a fool.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the Chinese government will now cease all property that belongs to GoogleWill they need a seize and desist order ? No , just some explosives should cause them to cease .
Of course , if they wanted to sieze it the explosives would be counterproductive.Note to GP : Dew knot truss yore spill chucker un lass ewe wont two bee scene ass a fool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the Chinese government will now cease all property that belongs to GoogleWill they need a seize and desist order?No, just some explosives should cause them to cease.
Of course, if they wanted to sieze it the explosives would be counterproductive.Note to GP: Dew knot truss yore spill chucker un lass ewe wont two bee scene ass a fool.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30751734</id>
	<title>Re:Megacorps</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263402960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When the government realizes that they authenticate the cash, you need a military.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When the government realizes that they authenticate the cash , you need a military .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When the government realizes that they authenticate the cash, you need a military.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30759552</id>
	<title>Re:Hilarious</title>
	<author>ZosX</author>
	<datestamp>1263392460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://chicagoboyz.net/wp-content/uploads/tiananmen500px.jpg" title="chicagoboyz.net">http://chicagoboyz.net/wp-content/uploads/tiananmen500px.jpg</a> [chicagoboyz.net]</p><p><a href="http://barbadosfreepress.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/tiananmen-square-crushed.jpg" title="wordpress.com">http://barbadosfreepress.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/tiananmen-square-crushed.jpg</a> [wordpress.com]</p><p><a href="http://lh6.ggpht.com/\_kIWY2DV0KnE/SidLqluQKbI/AAAAAAAADjs/a6u1LjRTYZI/Tiananmen\%20Square\%204.jpg" title="ggpht.com">http://lh6.ggpht.com/\_kIWY2DV0KnE/SidLqluQKbI/AAAAAAAADjs/a6u1LjRTYZI/Tiananmen\%20Square\%204.jpg</a> [ggpht.com]</p><p>Brutal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //chicagoboyz.net/wp-content/uploads/tiananmen500px.jpg [ chicagoboyz.net ] http : //barbadosfreepress.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/tiananmen-square-crushed.jpg [ wordpress.com ] http : //lh6.ggpht.com/ \ _kIWY2DV0KnE/SidLqluQKbI/AAAAAAAADjs/a6u1LjRTYZI/Tiananmen \ % 20Square \ % 204.jpg [ ggpht.com ] Brutal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://chicagoboyz.net/wp-content/uploads/tiananmen500px.jpg [chicagoboyz.net]http://barbadosfreepress.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/tiananmen-square-crushed.jpg [wordpress.com]http://lh6.ggpht.com/\_kIWY2DV0KnE/SidLqluQKbI/AAAAAAAADjs/a6u1LjRTYZI/Tiananmen\%20Square\%204.jpg [ggpht.com]Brutal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750262</id>
	<title>Re:Falun Gong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263397140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thank god Yahoo is such a joke because their search results are particularly nasty. Not only do they not show results if you search for Falun Gong, but it will block you from doing ANY other searches (for a while) if you even try. Yahoo would be dangerous if they were a stronger company that anyone gave a shit about.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank god Yahoo is such a joke because their search results are particularly nasty .
Not only do they not show results if you search for Falun Gong , but it will block you from doing ANY other searches ( for a while ) if you even try .
Yahoo would be dangerous if they were a stronger company that anyone gave a shit about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank god Yahoo is such a joke because their search results are particularly nasty.
Not only do they not show results if you search for Falun Gong, but it will block you from doing ANY other searches (for a while) if you even try.
Yahoo would be dangerous if they were a stronger company that anyone gave a shit about.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749934</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30752078</id>
	<title>Re:Germany still censored</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263404460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm curious as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm curious as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm curious as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750692</id>
	<title>Re:NSFW??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263398880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To me, NSFW really only applies to something that would be visible and noticeable to someone walking past. &ldquo;NSFW language&rdquo; can&rsquo;t really exist unless perhaps the typeface is so large that it&rsquo;s easily readable to others. It&rsquo;s not like I expect anyone to be reading over my shoulder, or not without me knowing it anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To me , NSFW really only applies to something that would be visible and noticeable to someone walking past .
   NSFW language    can    t really exist unless perhaps the typeface is so large that it    s easily readable to others .
It    s not like I expect anyone to be reading over my shoulder , or not without me knowing it anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To me, NSFW really only applies to something that would be visible and noticeable to someone walking past.
“NSFW language” can’t really exist unless perhaps the typeface is so large that it’s easily readable to others.
It’s not like I expect anyone to be reading over my shoulder, or not without me knowing it anyway.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749914</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30751864</id>
	<title>Re:I only hope</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1263403620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I mean, what do they have to loose?</i></p><p>They can loose their dogs. Or did you mean "lose"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean , what do they have to loose ? They can loose their dogs .
Or did you mean " lose " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean, what do they have to loose?They can loose their dogs.
Or did you mean "lose"?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750070</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749872</id>
	<title>I Don't Think Censorship's Been Lifted</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263395160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's probably taken a while to report because of Google's ranking system.</p></div><p>I don't understand how this explains it.  The searches shown have very low results for the offensive images?  I don't think Google would be foolish enough to remove values from their page ranking system or fiddle with those numbers.  Rather it would seem much more intuitive to build an interface that filters designated problem links and images.  It's probably even automated for some bullshit arm of the Chinese government (who the devil is it these days?  The Ministry of Culture?) that can go into a web portal and just add images and domains and pages to a list of restrictions.  Maybe even the government is savvy enough to have an feed or service that gives this information out to companies to assure compliance and ease of compliance?  A simpler answer is that a few new sites popped up and the government just hasn't added them to the no-no list yet.  If you look at the URLs in the images, they are from blogspot.com which means they're probably new blogs that need to be individually blocked by the Chinese government and/or Google.  What you're probably seeing is lazy censorship or the latency of an adequate solution for censorship -- which is pretty much as defective by design as it gets.  I don't think "lifts" censorship is what's going on here or else Google would be looking at losing business to one sixths of the world's population.  While Google professes 'do no evil' they still have shareholders to satisfy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's probably taken a while to report because of Google 's ranking system.I do n't understand how this explains it .
The searches shown have very low results for the offensive images ?
I do n't think Google would be foolish enough to remove values from their page ranking system or fiddle with those numbers .
Rather it would seem much more intuitive to build an interface that filters designated problem links and images .
It 's probably even automated for some bullshit arm of the Chinese government ( who the devil is it these days ?
The Ministry of Culture ?
) that can go into a web portal and just add images and domains and pages to a list of restrictions .
Maybe even the government is savvy enough to have an feed or service that gives this information out to companies to assure compliance and ease of compliance ?
A simpler answer is that a few new sites popped up and the government just has n't added them to the no-no list yet .
If you look at the URLs in the images , they are from blogspot.com which means they 're probably new blogs that need to be individually blocked by the Chinese government and/or Google .
What you 're probably seeing is lazy censorship or the latency of an adequate solution for censorship -- which is pretty much as defective by design as it gets .
I do n't think " lifts " censorship is what 's going on here or else Google would be looking at losing business to one sixths of the world 's population .
While Google professes 'do no evil ' they still have shareholders to satisfy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's probably taken a while to report because of Google's ranking system.I don't understand how this explains it.
The searches shown have very low results for the offensive images?
I don't think Google would be foolish enough to remove values from their page ranking system or fiddle with those numbers.
Rather it would seem much more intuitive to build an interface that filters designated problem links and images.
It's probably even automated for some bullshit arm of the Chinese government (who the devil is it these days?
The Ministry of Culture?
) that can go into a web portal and just add images and domains and pages to a list of restrictions.
Maybe even the government is savvy enough to have an feed or service that gives this information out to companies to assure compliance and ease of compliance?
A simpler answer is that a few new sites popped up and the government just hasn't added them to the no-no list yet.
If you look at the URLs in the images, they are from blogspot.com which means they're probably new blogs that need to be individually blocked by the Chinese government and/or Google.
What you're probably seeing is lazy censorship or the latency of an adequate solution for censorship -- which is pretty much as defective by design as it gets.
I don't think "lifts" censorship is what's going on here or else Google would be looking at losing business to one sixths of the world's population.
While Google professes 'do no evil' they still have shareholders to satisfy.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750892</id>
	<title>Re:A Business Decision?</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1263399720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not sure if it was in the linked TFA, because I didn't read it, but in the story I read this morning it was in response to a hacking attempt from within China aimed at getting at information about who had been searching for censored subjects.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure if it was in the linked TFA , because I did n't read it , but in the story I read this morning it was in response to a hacking attempt from within China aimed at getting at information about who had been searching for censored subjects .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure if it was in the linked TFA, because I didn't read it, but in the story I read this morning it was in response to a hacking attempt from within China aimed at getting at information about who had been searching for censored subjects.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30752834</id>
	<title>Re:A Business Decision?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263407040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's arguably not a business decision, it doesn't have a substantial effect on their revenue/expenses.  The fact that Google only has ~ 30\% market share in China probably makes it much easier for them to do this.  Regardless, I am thrilled that Google is doing this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's arguably not a business decision , it does n't have a substantial effect on their revenue/expenses .
The fact that Google only has ~ 30 \ % market share in China probably makes it much easier for them to do this .
Regardless , I am thrilled that Google is doing this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's arguably not a business decision, it doesn't have a substantial effect on their revenue/expenses.
The fact that Google only has ~ 30\% market share in China probably makes it much easier for them to do this.
Regardless, I am thrilled that Google is doing this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30751064</id>
	<title>Re:Germany still censored</title>
	<author>cyxxon</author>
	<datestamp>1263400440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>(Hardcore) porn may not be distributed to minors, and "Yes I am over 18!" links on the homepage have been found not enough to make sure the minors don't see it, it has to be "real" age verification. Even services that you had to enter our personalausweis number (personal id card) which has the birthdate encoded into it were verboten, since the algorith was rather trivial to fool...</htmltext>
<tokenext>( Hardcore ) porn may not be distributed to minors , and " Yes I am over 18 !
" links on the homepage have been found not enough to make sure the minors do n't see it , it has to be " real " age verification .
Even services that you had to enter our personalausweis number ( personal id card ) which has the birthdate encoded into it were verboten , since the algorith was rather trivial to fool.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(Hardcore) porn may not be distributed to minors, and "Yes I am over 18!
" links on the homepage have been found not enough to make sure the minors don't see it, it has to be "real" age verification.
Even services that you had to enter our personalausweis number (personal id card) which has the birthdate encoded into it were verboten, since the algorith was rather trivial to fool...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30755332</id>
	<title>Re:I Don't Think Censorship's Been Lifted</title>
	<author>Tubal-Cain</author>
	<datestamp>1263373800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't understand how this explains it.  The searches shown have very low results for the offensive images?  I don't think Google would be foolish enough to remove values from their page ranking system or fiddle with those numbers.</p></div><p>They don't need to. Don't results get a higher rank if they are clicked? If so, censored pages have a low rank because they haven't been getting visits.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand how this explains it .
The searches shown have very low results for the offensive images ?
I do n't think Google would be foolish enough to remove values from their page ranking system or fiddle with those numbers.They do n't need to .
Do n't results get a higher rank if they are clicked ?
If so , censored pages have a low rank because they have n't been getting visits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand how this explains it.
The searches shown have very low results for the offensive images?
I don't think Google would be foolish enough to remove values from their page ranking system or fiddle with those numbers.They don't need to.
Don't results get a higher rank if they are clicked?
If so, censored pages have a low rank because they haven't been getting visits.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750490</id>
	<title>Re:I only hope</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263398100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think you mean 'sieze'.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you mean 'sieze' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you mean 'sieze'.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750070</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750436</id>
	<title>Do No Evil</title>
	<author>castironpigeon</author>
	<datestamp>1263397860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google gets a fair amount of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. bashing just because it's grown as large as it has and sometimes they may even deserve it, but here we have an example of Google doing a good thing. You don't see many megacorporations taking a stand against internet censorship. Even if Google profits from this in some way and it isn't entirely a selfless act it's nice to see them doing something that benefits us little people too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google gets a fair amount of / .
bashing just because it 's grown as large as it has and sometimes they may even deserve it , but here we have an example of Google doing a good thing .
You do n't see many megacorporations taking a stand against internet censorship .
Even if Google profits from this in some way and it is n't entirely a selfless act it 's nice to see them doing something that benefits us little people too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google gets a fair amount of /.
bashing just because it's grown as large as it has and sometimes they may even deserve it, but here we have an example of Google doing a good thing.
You don't see many megacorporations taking a stand against internet censorship.
Even if Google profits from this in some way and it isn't entirely a selfless act it's nice to see them doing something that benefits us little people too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30755256</id>
	<title>Re:FTFA</title>
	<author>Tiger4</author>
	<datestamp>1263373560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Either way, who controls the DNSs in China?  It will be no great trick for the Chinese government to slowly (or quickly) swing requests for google.cn away from Google and point them at Yahoo, Bing, or whoever else is still cooperating.  Google.cn will just cease to exist as a real destination.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Either way , who controls the DNSs in China ?
It will be no great trick for the Chinese government to slowly ( or quickly ) swing requests for google.cn away from Google and point them at Yahoo , Bing , or whoever else is still cooperating .
Google.cn will just cease to exist as a real destination .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Either way, who controls the DNSs in China?
It will be no great trick for the Chinese government to slowly (or quickly) swing requests for google.cn away from Google and point them at Yahoo, Bing, or whoever else is still cooperating.
Google.cn will just cease to exist as a real destination.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749874</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750612</id>
	<title>No they haven't!</title>
	<author>Builder</author>
	<datestamp>1263398580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just compare<br><a href="http://images.google.cn/images?gbv=2&amp;hl=zh-CN&amp;sa=1&amp;q=tiananmen+square+protest&amp;btnG=Google+\%E6\%90\%9C\%E7\%B4\%A2&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;start=0" title="google.cn">the cn version</a> [google.cn] with the one that the <a href="http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&amp;source=hp&amp;q=tiananmen+square&amp;btnG=Search+Images&amp;gbv=2&amp;aq=0&amp;oq=tian" title="google.co.uk">rest of the world</a> [google.co.uk] sees</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just comparethe cn version [ google.cn ] with the one that the rest of the world [ google.co.uk ] sees</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just comparethe cn version [google.cn] with the one that the rest of the world [google.co.uk] sees</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30757248</id>
	<title>Re:NSFW??</title>
	<author>mgblst</author>
	<datestamp>1263381960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about if the words are arranged as ascii porn?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about if the words are arranged as ascii porn ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about if the words are arranged as ascii porn?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750692</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750584</id>
	<title>Re:Falun Gong</title>
	<author>PhilHibbs</author>
	<datestamp>1263398460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the page rank algorithm favours pages linked within the country of the search server. If not many<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.cn sites link to www.falundafa.org, then that site will have a low page rank on google.cn.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the page rank algorithm favours pages linked within the country of the search server .
If not many .cn sites link to www.falundafa.org , then that site will have a low page rank on google.cn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the page rank algorithm favours pages linked within the country of the search server.
If not many .cn sites link to www.falundafa.org, then that site will have a low page rank on google.cn.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749934</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30751692</id>
	<title>Hilarious</title>
	<author>H4x0r Jim Duggan</author>
	<datestamp>1263402840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google announces that it will now display pictures of some guy's brain lying on the ground in Tiananmen Square, and while passing that on, Slashdot pre-warns people about "holy shit" being displayed on a workplace computer screen.</p><p>A high-expectation joke from good Mr. Taco?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google announces that it will now display pictures of some guy 's brain lying on the ground in Tiananmen Square , and while passing that on , Slashdot pre-warns people about " holy shit " being displayed on a workplace computer screen.A high-expectation joke from good Mr. Taco ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google announces that it will now display pictures of some guy's brain lying on the ground in Tiananmen Square, and while passing that on, Slashdot pre-warns people about "holy shit" being displayed on a workplace computer screen.A high-expectation joke from good Mr. Taco?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749914</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30753868</id>
	<title>Re:Still censored, but don't care</title>
	<author>Velorium</author>
	<datestamp>1263411300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So how many other people in China do what you do? And aren't results still blocked by the "great firewall" without a proxy?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So how many other people in China do what you do ?
And are n't results still blocked by the " great firewall " without a proxy ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So how many other people in China do what you do?
And aren't results still blocked by the "great firewall" without a proxy?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749934</id>
	<title>Falun Gong</title>
	<author>Albanach</author>
	<datestamp>1263395460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's still search differences though</p><p><a href="http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&amp;q=falun+gong" title="google.cn">http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&amp;q=falun+gong</a> [google.cn]</p><p>is quite different to</p><p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=zh-CN&amp;q=falun+gong" title="google.com">http://www.google.com/search?hl=zh-CN&amp;q=falun+gong</a> [google.com]</p><p>Though either does a lot better than Yahoo!</p><p><a href="http://search.cn.yahoo.com/s?p=falun+gong&amp;v=web&amp;pid=ysearch" title="yahoo.com">http://search.cn.yahoo.com/s?p=falun+gong&amp;v=web&amp;pid=ysearch</a> [yahoo.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's still search differences thoughhttp : //www.google.cn/search ? hl = zh-CN&amp;q = falun + gong [ google.cn ] is quite different tohttp : //www.google.com/search ? hl = zh-CN&amp;q = falun + gong [ google.com ] Though either does a lot better than Yahoo ! http : //search.cn.yahoo.com/s ? p = falun + gong&amp;v = web&amp;pid = ysearch [ yahoo.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's still search differences thoughhttp://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&amp;q=falun+gong [google.cn]is quite different tohttp://www.google.com/search?hl=zh-CN&amp;q=falun+gong [google.com]Though either does a lot better than Yahoo!http://search.cn.yahoo.com/s?p=falun+gong&amp;v=web&amp;pid=ysearch [yahoo.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30751396</id>
	<title>Re:Falun Gong</title>
	<author>GPLDAN</author>
	<datestamp>1263401700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>TCP reset technology brought to courtesy of Cisco Systems. <br> <br> <br>
Cisco, our motto is the "Human Network". What we really mean is, the "Repress Humans Network". After all John Chambers needs his rogaine for that 3 hair comb over he sports, and that stuff isn't cheap! CVS Pharmacy started locking it up!<br> <br> <br>
<a href="http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/4/30/163555.shtml" title="newsmax.com">http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/4/30/163555.shtml</a> [newsmax.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>TCP reset technology brought to courtesy of Cisco Systems .
Cisco , our motto is the " Human Network " .
What we really mean is , the " Repress Humans Network " .
After all John Chambers needs his rogaine for that 3 hair comb over he sports , and that stuff is n't cheap !
CVS Pharmacy started locking it up !
http : //archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/4/30/163555.shtml [ newsmax.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TCP reset technology brought to courtesy of Cisco Systems.
Cisco, our motto is the "Human Network".
What we really mean is, the "Repress Humans Network".
After all John Chambers needs his rogaine for that 3 hair comb over he sports, and that stuff isn't cheap!
CVS Pharmacy started locking it up!
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/4/30/163555.shtml [newsmax.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30752726</id>
	<title>Re:Good for you, Google</title>
	<author>speroni</author>
	<datestamp>1263406680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In order for China to learn that we will no do business with them if they have human rights issues, it would have to be true. Fact is we do plenty of business with them while they have major human rights problems. Maybe its time WE learn not to do business with them until they improve.</p><p>Maybe we should stop pretending that China is a "developing nation" while turning a blind eye to the fact that it has the third largest GDP in the world. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_countries\_by\_GDP\_(nominal)" title="wikipedia.org"> GDP by nation</a> [wikipedia.org] (no the EU isn't a nation).</p><p>Maybe we should stop trading with them until they let their currency reach the actual market value instead of what the Chinese Govn't pegs it as. <a href="http://www.danwei.org/china\_information/china\_currency\_trade\_revaluati.php" title="danwei.org"> RMB</a> [danwei.org] (now pegged against a basket of other currencies instead of just the $)</p><p>Problem is they own our debt.... Maybe we should tighten our belts instead of borrowing more and more money from China?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In order for China to learn that we will no do business with them if they have human rights issues , it would have to be true .
Fact is we do plenty of business with them while they have major human rights problems .
Maybe its time WE learn not to do business with them until they improve.Maybe we should stop pretending that China is a " developing nation " while turning a blind eye to the fact that it has the third largest GDP in the world .
GDP by nation [ wikipedia.org ] ( no the EU is n't a nation ) .Maybe we should stop trading with them until they let their currency reach the actual market value instead of what the Chinese Gov n't pegs it as .
RMB [ danwei.org ] ( now pegged against a basket of other currencies instead of just the $ ) Problem is they own our debt.... Maybe we should tighten our belts instead of borrowing more and more money from China ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In order for China to learn that we will no do business with them if they have human rights issues, it would have to be true.
Fact is we do plenty of business with them while they have major human rights problems.
Maybe its time WE learn not to do business with them until they improve.Maybe we should stop pretending that China is a "developing nation" while turning a blind eye to the fact that it has the third largest GDP in the world.
GDP by nation [wikipedia.org] (no the EU isn't a nation).Maybe we should stop trading with them until they let their currency reach the actual market value instead of what the Chinese Govn't pegs it as.
RMB [danwei.org] (now pegged against a basket of other currencies instead of just the $)Problem is they own our debt.... Maybe we should tighten our belts instead of borrowing more and more money from China?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750168</id>
	<title>Uncensored Tianenmen Square Images</title>
	<author>Lemming Mark</author>
	<datestamp>1263396720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I appreciate the warning over language, though it didn't look worse than other sites<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. links to from my brief look.  But there are (albeit thumbnailed) images of the Tiananmen Square massacre, which are probably more important to warn people about.</p><p>Also, the article has evidence that censorship has not ceased so YMMV with this story.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I appreciate the warning over language , though it did n't look worse than other sites / .
links to from my brief look .
But there are ( albeit thumbnailed ) images of the Tiananmen Square massacre , which are probably more important to warn people about.Also , the article has evidence that censorship has not ceased so YMMV with this story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I appreciate the warning over language, though it didn't look worse than other sites /.
links to from my brief look.
But there are (albeit thumbnailed) images of the Tiananmen Square massacre, which are probably more important to warn people about.Also, the article has evidence that censorship has not ceased so YMMV with this story.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750264</id>
	<title>Re:Germany still censored</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263397140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Youporn banned in Germany? How come?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Youporn banned in Germany ?
How come ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Youporn banned in Germany?
How come?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750294</id>
	<title>Re:I Don't Think Censorship's Been Lifted</title>
	<author>kevinNCSU</author>
	<datestamp>1263397320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What makes the most sense to you? That Google announces that they lifted censorship while purposely keeping censorship on and just sliding an image or two in hoping the whole thing blows over before anyone notices or that like they say, that it takes a little bit for the ranking system to normalize</p><p> I know for a fact I've searched google.cn for Tienanmen square before and there was nothing about the massacre on the first page, and definitely no pictures of tanks, and now there is so I'm likely to believe them at present.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What makes the most sense to you ?
That Google announces that they lifted censorship while purposely keeping censorship on and just sliding an image or two in hoping the whole thing blows over before anyone notices or that like they say , that it takes a little bit for the ranking system to normalize I know for a fact I 've searched google.cn for Tienanmen square before and there was nothing about the massacre on the first page , and definitely no pictures of tanks , and now there is so I 'm likely to believe them at present .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What makes the most sense to you?
That Google announces that they lifted censorship while purposely keeping censorship on and just sliding an image or two in hoping the whole thing blows over before anyone notices or that like they say, that it takes a little bit for the ranking system to normalize I know for a fact I've searched google.cn for Tienanmen square before and there was nothing about the massacre on the first page, and definitely no pictures of tanks, and now there is so I'm likely to believe them at present.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30757458</id>
	<title>Re:Good for you, Google</title>
	<author>Eil</author>
	<datestamp>1263382800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The Chinese need to learn that we will not do business with them until they clean up their human rights issues, implement better protection of IP, and stop being the dishonorable cheaters that they are.</p></div></blockquote><p>Sure, you go tell them that. And then they'll remind you that our country owes them a few trillion dollars and relies on them for pretty much all of our manufacturing needs and are thus not really under any particular obligation to bend to our will.</p><p>If you don't want to U.S. to rely on China economically, you have to:</p><p>1) Convince the government to stop asking China for loans to pay for misguided occupations and corporate bailouts.<br>2) Convince almost every American producer of durable and consumable goods to pay 2 to 3 times more for their manufacturing costs instead of outsourcing the work to China.<br>3) Convince every American consumer to pay 2 to 3 times as much for everything they currently buy, because that's how much more we'd be paying for everything from food to clothing to computers to cars without cheap foreign labor.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Chinese need to learn that we will not do business with them until they clean up their human rights issues , implement better protection of IP , and stop being the dishonorable cheaters that they are.Sure , you go tell them that .
And then they 'll remind you that our country owes them a few trillion dollars and relies on them for pretty much all of our manufacturing needs and are thus not really under any particular obligation to bend to our will.If you do n't want to U.S. to rely on China economically , you have to : 1 ) Convince the government to stop asking China for loans to pay for misguided occupations and corporate bailouts.2 ) Convince almost every American producer of durable and consumable goods to pay 2 to 3 times more for their manufacturing costs instead of outsourcing the work to China.3 ) Convince every American consumer to pay 2 to 3 times as much for everything they currently buy , because that 's how much more we 'd be paying for everything from food to clothing to computers to cars without cheap foreign labor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Chinese need to learn that we will not do business with them until they clean up their human rights issues, implement better protection of IP, and stop being the dishonorable cheaters that they are.Sure, you go tell them that.
And then they'll remind you that our country owes them a few trillion dollars and relies on them for pretty much all of our manufacturing needs and are thus not really under any particular obligation to bend to our will.If you don't want to U.S. to rely on China economically, you have to:1) Convince the government to stop asking China for loans to pay for misguided occupations and corporate bailouts.2) Convince almost every American producer of durable and consumable goods to pay 2 to 3 times more for their manufacturing costs instead of outsourcing the work to China.3) Convince every American consumer to pay 2 to 3 times as much for everything they currently buy, because that's how much more we'd be paying for everything from food to clothing to computers to cars without cheap foreign labor.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30753736</id>
	<title>Re:I Don't Think Censorship's Been Lifted</title>
	<author>Maxo-Texas</author>
	<datestamp>1263410760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who knows what the algorithm is but part of it is probably cross-links in the local language.  Then probably pages that are searched for a lot by different users.  This would also be low in China currently.</p><p>One of my girlfriends worked with a chinese lady who swore up and down that TS never happened.  Even when confronted with web evidence and after living in the US for several years.  So there is a fair amount of brainwashing going on at an early age.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who knows what the algorithm is but part of it is probably cross-links in the local language .
Then probably pages that are searched for a lot by different users .
This would also be low in China currently.One of my girlfriends worked with a chinese lady who swore up and down that TS never happened .
Even when confronted with web evidence and after living in the US for several years .
So there is a fair amount of brainwashing going on at an early age .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who knows what the algorithm is but part of it is probably cross-links in the local language.
Then probably pages that are searched for a lot by different users.
This would also be low in China currently.One of my girlfriends worked with a chinese lady who swore up and down that TS never happened.
Even when confronted with web evidence and after living in the US for several years.
So there is a fair amount of brainwashing going on at an early age.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30752602</id>
	<title>Re:Good for you, Google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263406320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you really think the Chinese government gives a toss about whether you decry their censorship or political ideals? <br>
&nbsp; <br>Too late, you're already a loyal supporter. Look around you, at the things in your home and/or place of work, and say to yourself <b>"I give China money."</b></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you really think the Chinese government gives a toss about whether you decry their censorship or political ideals ?
  Too late , you 're already a loyal supporter .
Look around you , at the things in your home and/or place of work , and say to yourself " I give China money .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you really think the Chinese government gives a toss about whether you decry their censorship or political ideals?
  Too late, you're already a loyal supporter.
Look around you, at the things in your home and/or place of work, and say to yourself "I give China money.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750708</id>
	<title>Re:Images definitely still censored</title>
	<author>mrphoton</author>
	<datestamp>1263398880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Although I you are searching for English words in a Chinese search engine.  I wonder what happens when you search for "tiananmen square tank" in google.com but \_using Chinese characters\_</htmltext>
<tokenext>Although I you are searching for English words in a Chinese search engine .
I wonder what happens when you search for " tiananmen square tank " in google.com but \ _using Chinese characters \ _</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although I you are searching for English words in a Chinese search engine.
I wonder what happens when you search for "tiananmen square tank" in google.com but \_using Chinese characters\_</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750106</id>
	<title>Re:I only hope</title>
	<author>xaxa</author>
	<datestamp>1263396360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't speak Chinese, but it seems not to be censored. For instance, the last line on <a href="http://images.google.cn/images?hl=zh-CN&amp;um=1&amp;sa=1&amp;q=\%E5\%85\%AD\%E5\%9B\%9B\%E4\%BA\%8B\%E4\%BB\%B6&amp;btnG=Google+\%E6\%90\%9C\%E7\%B4\%A2&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;start=0" title="google.cn">this results page</a> [google.cn] says (putting it through Google Translate) "According to local laws, regulations and policies, some search results are not shown".</p><p>(The query is for Tienanmen Square, I think, which I used Wikipedia to "translate". The <a href="http://images.google.com.hk/images?hl=zh-CN&amp;um=1&amp;sa=1&amp;q=\%E5\%85\%AD\%E5\%9B\%9B\%E4\%BA\%8B\%E4\%BB\%B6&amp;btnG=Google+\%E6\%90\%9C\%E7\%B4\%A2&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;start=0" title="google.com.hk">google.com.hk</a> [google.com.hk] results for the same query are very different).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't speak Chinese , but it seems not to be censored .
For instance , the last line on this results page [ google.cn ] says ( putting it through Google Translate ) " According to local laws , regulations and policies , some search results are not shown " .
( The query is for Tienanmen Square , I think , which I used Wikipedia to " translate " .
The google.com.hk [ google.com.hk ] results for the same query are very different ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't speak Chinese, but it seems not to be censored.
For instance, the last line on this results page [google.cn] says (putting it through Google Translate) "According to local laws, regulations and policies, some search results are not shown".
(The query is for Tienanmen Square, I think, which I used Wikipedia to "translate".
The google.com.hk [google.com.hk] results for the same query are very different).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30752774</id>
	<title>Re:NSFW??</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1263406860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've had people ask me to put a warning on my sig saying my slashdot journals may be NSFW. So who knows?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've had people ask me to put a warning on my sig saying my slashdot journals may be NSFW .
So who knows ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've had people ask me to put a warning on my sig saying my slashdot journals may be NSFW.
So who knows?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30752322</id>
	<title>Re:Falun Gong</title>
	<author>shish</author>
	<datestamp>1263405300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There's still search differences though</p></div><p>Do note that google.com and google.co.uk give very different results for "football", which implies that they localise search results</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's still search differences thoughDo note that google.com and google.co.uk give very different results for " football " , which implies that they localise search results</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's still search differences thoughDo note that google.com and google.co.uk give very different results for "football", which implies that they localise search results
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750634</id>
	<title>Re:Good for you, Google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263398640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Long memories, longer perspectives. Did the West think there would be not payback for the unequal treaties <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unequal\_Treaties#List\_of\_Alleged\_Unequal\_Treaties" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unequal\_Treaties#List\_of\_Alleged\_Unequal\_Treaties</a> [wikipedia.org]. At this rate their full response should have been completed in just 200 years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Long memories , longer perspectives .
Did the West think there would be not payback for the unequal treaties http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unequal \ _Treaties # List \ _of \ _Alleged \ _Unequal \ _Treaties [ wikipedia.org ] .
At this rate their full response should have been completed in just 200 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Long memories, longer perspectives.
Did the West think there would be not payback for the unequal treaties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unequal\_Treaties#List\_of\_Alleged\_Unequal\_Treaties [wikipedia.org].
At this rate their full response should have been completed in just 200 years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30761780</id>
	<title>Re:NSFW??</title>
	<author>xtracto</author>
	<datestamp>1263459840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, NSFW language for me would be akin to the GNAA page that shouted "hey look I am watching gay porn!!" when you opened it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , NSFW language for me would be akin to the GNAA page that shouted " hey look I am watching gay porn ! !
" when you opened it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, NSFW language for me would be akin to the GNAA page that shouted "hey look I am watching gay porn!!
" when you opened it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750434</id>
	<title>Re:I only hope</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263397860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I think the Chinese government will now cease all property that belongs to Google</p></div></blockquote><p>Will they need a seize and desist order?</p><blockquote><div><p>what do they have to loose?</p></div> </blockquote><p>Nothing, it's clearly a tight situation.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the Chinese government will now cease all property that belongs to GoogleWill they need a seize and desist order ? what do they have to loose ?
Nothing , it 's clearly a tight situation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the Chinese government will now cease all property that belongs to GoogleWill they need a seize and desist order?what do they have to loose?
Nothing, it's clearly a tight situation.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750880</id>
	<title>Re:Germany still censored</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263399660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Youporn is not exactly banned. It is just not legal in Germany. The problem is that their age verification consist out of clicking: "Yes I'm definitely and without a doubt older than 18 and not 12 and just lie to watch hardcore porn" once. That's not sufficient to comply with German law.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Youporn is not exactly banned .
It is just not legal in Germany .
The problem is that their age verification consist out of clicking : " Yes I 'm definitely and without a doubt older than 18 and not 12 and just lie to watch hardcore porn " once .
That 's not sufficient to comply with German law .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Youporn is not exactly banned.
It is just not legal in Germany.
The problem is that their age verification consist out of clicking: "Yes I'm definitely and without a doubt older than 18 and not 12 and just lie to watch hardcore porn" once.
That's not sufficient to comply with German law.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750264</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750186</id>
	<title>Re:Megacorps</title>
	<author>Krneki</author>
	<datestamp>1263396840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You mean like the Mexican drug cartel?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean like the Mexican drug cartel ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean like the Mexican drug cartel?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749960</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749988</id>
	<title>Porn Providors Rejoice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263395760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If this is true.  Google will now be able to provide porn to the Chineese market (though can individuals get arrested in China for viewing it or were only the cites censored?).</htmltext>
<tokenext>If this is true .
Google will now be able to provide porn to the Chineese market ( though can individuals get arrested in China for viewing it or were only the cites censored ?
) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If this is true.
Google will now be able to provide porn to the Chineese market (though can individuals get arrested in China for viewing it or were only the cites censored?
).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750746</id>
	<title>Re:Germany still censored</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1263399060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The censorship of neo nazi search I feel is an understandable cultural issue for Germany. It might even be a choice that Google made without government involvement. The fact that you can get around it so simply makes me think it is more of a statment of intent than evil censorship.<br>Just for arguments sake would it be evil for a search engine to self censor?<br>Just why would it be wrong for a search engine to decide to offer a "clean" search product that didn't have porn, neo nazi, and klan sites?<br>Wouldn't it just be offering a service you could use or not use?<br>To me I don't see an issue with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The censorship of neo nazi search I feel is an understandable cultural issue for Germany .
It might even be a choice that Google made without government involvement .
The fact that you can get around it so simply makes me think it is more of a statment of intent than evil censorship.Just for arguments sake would it be evil for a search engine to self censor ? Just why would it be wrong for a search engine to decide to offer a " clean " search product that did n't have porn , neo nazi , and klan sites ? Would n't it just be offering a service you could use or not use ? To me I do n't see an issue with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The censorship of neo nazi search I feel is an understandable cultural issue for Germany.
It might even be a choice that Google made without government involvement.
The fact that you can get around it so simply makes me think it is more of a statment of intent than evil censorship.Just for arguments sake would it be evil for a search engine to self censor?Just why would it be wrong for a search engine to decide to offer a "clean" search product that didn't have porn, neo nazi, and klan sites?Wouldn't it just be offering a service you could use or not use?To me I don't see an issue with it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750016</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750064</id>
	<title>Good for you, Google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263396120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Chinese need to learn that we will not do business with them until they clean up their human rights issues, implement better protection of IP, and stop being the dishonorable cheaters that they are.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Chinese need to learn that we will not do business with them until they clean up their human rights issues , implement better protection of IP , and stop being the dishonorable cheaters that they are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Chinese need to learn that we will not do business with them until they clean up their human rights issues, implement better protection of IP, and stop being the dishonorable cheaters that they are.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750400</id>
	<title>Baidu's search results were also affected</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263397740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The funny thing is, for a short while today Baidu's search results also became less censored.

Feel free to draw your own conclusions on what this means<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>The funny thing is , for a short while today Baidu 's search results also became less censored .
Feel free to draw your own conclusions on what this means ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The funny thing is, for a short while today Baidu's search results also became less censored.
Feel free to draw your own conclusions on what this means ;)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30751340</id>
	<title>Re:Good for you, Google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263401400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do you think they need the rest of the world?  They are the ones who are bailing the USA out of the financial situation (Take a look at how many Treasury notes they have bought)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do you think they need the rest of the world ?
They are the ones who are bailing the USA out of the financial situation ( Take a look at how many Treasury notes they have bought )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do you think they need the rest of the world?
They are the ones who are bailing the USA out of the financial situation (Take a look at how many Treasury notes they have bought)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750064</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30751394</id>
	<title>Re:Good for you, Google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263401640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeaaaahhhh, China doesn't care about stuff like that. Really, they don't, do the research.</p><p>If you want to send jobs to a third world country with a corrupt government, send them to Mexico. They're our neighbor, it would cut out the boat ride for products and help the environment, and it would help ease up on illegal immigration.</p><p>Sending high paying tech jobs to China, which I've helped to do at a previous employer, is bigger discussion I won't get into here, having read some good rants against long passages of text.... wait, why are you playing the music?</p><p>I'm not done ye</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeaaaahhhh , China does n't care about stuff like that .
Really , they do n't , do the research.If you want to send jobs to a third world country with a corrupt government , send them to Mexico .
They 're our neighbor , it would cut out the boat ride for products and help the environment , and it would help ease up on illegal immigration.Sending high paying tech jobs to China , which I 've helped to do at a previous employer , is bigger discussion I wo n't get into here , having read some good rants against long passages of text.... wait , why are you playing the music ? I 'm not done ye</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeaaaahhhh, China doesn't care about stuff like that.
Really, they don't, do the research.If you want to send jobs to a third world country with a corrupt government, send them to Mexico.
They're our neighbor, it would cut out the boat ride for products and help the environment, and it would help ease up on illegal immigration.Sending high paying tech jobs to China, which I've helped to do at a previous employer, is bigger discussion I won't get into here, having read some good rants against long passages of text.... wait, why are you playing the music?I'm not done ye</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750064</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30755146</id>
	<title>Re:Germany still censored</title>
	<author>Weegee\_101</author>
	<datestamp>1263416280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>no neo nazi sites).</p></div><p>If you need to go to Neo-Nazi sites you need to really get help.......  The Nazi ideology is one that you can't really defend unless you're seriously messed up in your head.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>no neo nazi sites ) .If you need to go to Neo-Nazi sites you need to really get help....... The Nazi ideology is one that you ca n't really defend unless you 're seriously messed up in your head .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no neo nazi sites).If you need to go to Neo-Nazi sites you need to really get help.......  The Nazi ideology is one that you can't really defend unless you're seriously messed up in your head.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750016</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750166</id>
	<title>Re:Falun Gong</title>
	<author>Albanach</author>
	<datestamp>1263396720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yahoo  is especially interesting here. If you search for something innocuous like Hong Kong</p><p><a href="http://search.cn.yahoo.com/search?p=Hong\%20Kong" title="yahoo.com">http://search.cn.yahoo.com/search?p=Hong\%20Kong</a> [yahoo.com]</p><p>It works fine.</p><p>Change the search</p><p><a href="http://search.cn.yahoo.com/search?p=Falun\%20Gong" title="yahoo.com">http://search.cn.yahoo.com/search?p=Falun\%20Gong</a> [yahoo.com]</p><p>And yahoo.cn drops the connection, and seems to do so based on your IP for a few minutes thereafter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yahoo is especially interesting here .
If you search for something innocuous like Hong Konghttp : //search.cn.yahoo.com/search ? p = Hong \ % 20Kong [ yahoo.com ] It works fine.Change the searchhttp : //search.cn.yahoo.com/search ? p = Falun \ % 20Gong [ yahoo.com ] And yahoo.cn drops the connection , and seems to do so based on your IP for a few minutes thereafter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yahoo  is especially interesting here.
If you search for something innocuous like Hong Konghttp://search.cn.yahoo.com/search?p=Hong\%20Kong [yahoo.com]It works fine.Change the searchhttp://search.cn.yahoo.com/search?p=Falun\%20Gong [yahoo.com]And yahoo.cn drops the connection, and seems to do so based on your IP for a few minutes thereafter.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749934</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750016</id>
	<title>Germany still censored</title>
	<author>Affenkopf</author>
	<datestamp>1263395880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Meanwhile German Google is still censored (no youporn and a few other porn sites, no neo nazi sites).
<br> <br>
I wish our government would do something to piss Google off so that we could have uncensored search results (to be fair: In Germany we can just switch from the censored google.de to the uncensored google.com)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Meanwhile German Google is still censored ( no youporn and a few other porn sites , no neo nazi sites ) .
I wish our government would do something to piss Google off so that we could have uncensored search results ( to be fair : In Germany we can just switch from the censored google.de to the uncensored google.com )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meanwhile German Google is still censored (no youporn and a few other porn sites, no neo nazi sites).
I wish our government would do something to piss Google off so that we could have uncensored search results (to be fair: In Germany we can just switch from the censored google.de to the uncensored google.com)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750876</id>
	<title>Re:Germany still censored</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263399660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hardcore porn without a working age-verification.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hardcore porn without a working age-verification .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hardcore porn without a working age-verification.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750264</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30759914</id>
	<title>Re:Germany still censored</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1263395400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Youporn banned in Germany? How come?</p></div></blockquote><p>

Lobbying from the German Porn and Prostitutions industries?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Youporn banned in Germany ?
How come ?
Lobbying from the German Porn and Prostitutions industries ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Youporn banned in Germany?
How come?
Lobbying from the German Porn and Prostitutions industries?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750264</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750666</id>
	<title>Tank Man On first page</title>
	<author>KalgarThrax</author>
	<datestamp>1263398700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Of the search results from google.cn. That's a big deal, folks. Let's see how this plays out....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of the search results from google.cn .
That 's a big deal , folks .
Let 's see how this plays out... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of the search results from google.cn.
That's a big deal, folks.
Let's see how this plays out....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750456</id>
	<title>Re:I only hope</title>
	<author>vegiVamp</author>
	<datestamp>1263397920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"seize". "full-scale". "lose".<br><br>They've managed for over 4000 years. I think they'll manage without Google for a little while longer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" seize " .
" full-scale " . " lose " .They 've managed for over 4000 years .
I think they 'll manage without Google for a little while longer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"seize".
"full-scale". "lose".They've managed for over 4000 years.
I think they'll manage without Google for a little while longer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750070</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30760570</id>
	<title>Re:Falun Gong</title>
	<author>wvmarle</author>
	<datestamp>1263401340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google surely localises search results. It's one of the many factors in their page ranking. That is at least my experience over the last few years. I suspect it's not even just the local site you access but also the language settings in your browser and the actual location where you are connecting from (geographic location of your IP).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google surely localises search results .
It 's one of the many factors in their page ranking .
That is at least my experience over the last few years .
I suspect it 's not even just the local site you access but also the language settings in your browser and the actual location where you are connecting from ( geographic location of your IP ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google surely localises search results.
It's one of the many factors in their page ranking.
That is at least my experience over the last few years.
I suspect it's not even just the local site you access but also the language settings in your browser and the actual location where you are connecting from (geographic location of your IP).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750166</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30753566</id>
	<title>Read between the lines</title>
	<author>snowwrestler</author>
	<datestamp>1263410100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The specific mention of human rights activists is Google's way of telegraphing, without saying it directly, that they believe the hacking was done by or sponsored by the Chinese government itself. This is also reflected in the fact that they drew a statement from the U.S. Secretary of State--not the typical response to a business blog post.</p><p>Google is taking the side of business. Despite what you might read here Slashdot, businesses cannot win against government opposition. If the Chinese government itself is attacking Google, then Google has no certainty in any Chinese business dealings, since things like contracts and IP are (supposed to be) protected by the government. It would be like trying to walk forward when giant cracks in the ground are opening up all over the place. At some point you have to decide whether the prize you're walking toward is actually worth the risk you take with each step.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The specific mention of human rights activists is Google 's way of telegraphing , without saying it directly , that they believe the hacking was done by or sponsored by the Chinese government itself .
This is also reflected in the fact that they drew a statement from the U.S. Secretary of State--not the typical response to a business blog post.Google is taking the side of business .
Despite what you might read here Slashdot , businesses can not win against government opposition .
If the Chinese government itself is attacking Google , then Google has no certainty in any Chinese business dealings , since things like contracts and IP are ( supposed to be ) protected by the government .
It would be like trying to walk forward when giant cracks in the ground are opening up all over the place .
At some point you have to decide whether the prize you 're walking toward is actually worth the risk you take with each step .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The specific mention of human rights activists is Google's way of telegraphing, without saying it directly, that they believe the hacking was done by or sponsored by the Chinese government itself.
This is also reflected in the fact that they drew a statement from the U.S. Secretary of State--not the typical response to a business blog post.Google is taking the side of business.
Despite what you might read here Slashdot, businesses cannot win against government opposition.
If the Chinese government itself is attacking Google, then Google has no certainty in any Chinese business dealings, since things like contracts and IP are (supposed to be) protected by the government.
It would be like trying to walk forward when giant cracks in the ground are opening up all over the place.
At some point you have to decide whether the prize you're walking toward is actually worth the risk you take with each step.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750308</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30751336</id>
	<title>Re:Germany still censored</title>
	<author>Lazy Jones</author>
	<datestamp>1263401400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I wish our government would do something to piss Google off so that we could have uncensored search results</p> </div><p>
You don't need that, all you need to do is build a local search engine that is more popular than Google (<a href="http://baidu.com/" title="baidu.com">Baidu</a> [baidu.com] in China). Google just doesn't want to play by the same rules anymore, since they lost.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish our government would do something to piss Google off so that we could have uncensored search results You do n't need that , all you need to do is build a local search engine that is more popular than Google ( Baidu [ baidu.com ] in China ) .
Google just does n't want to play by the same rules anymore , since they lost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish our government would do something to piss Google off so that we could have uncensored search results 
You don't need that, all you need to do is build a local search engine that is more popular than Google (Baidu [baidu.com] in China).
Google just doesn't want to play by the same rules anymore, since they lost.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750016</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30762422</id>
	<title>Re:Germany still censored</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263470640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>If you need to go to Neo-Nazi sites you need to really get help....... </i></p><p>My wife has an entire folder of bookmarks for neo-nazi and similar websites. It's called 'nutters'. She wants to see what they are up to and is amused by them spending much of their time abusing each other and calling each other traitors. It comes as a bit of a relief to find out that most of them are thick as shit and more likely to kill each other than their avowed enemies, or kill themselves accidentally in a half-arsed attempt to make a .</p><p>I think that's a perfectly normal and sane reason for visitng such sites.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you need to go to Neo-Nazi sites you need to really get help....... My wife has an entire folder of bookmarks for neo-nazi and similar websites .
It 's called 'nutters' .
She wants to see what they are up to and is amused by them spending much of their time abusing each other and calling each other traitors .
It comes as a bit of a relief to find out that most of them are thick as shit and more likely to kill each other than their avowed enemies , or kill themselves accidentally in a half-arsed attempt to make a .I think that 's a perfectly normal and sane reason for visitng such sites .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you need to go to Neo-Nazi sites you need to really get help....... My wife has an entire folder of bookmarks for neo-nazi and similar websites.
It's called 'nutters'.
She wants to see what they are up to and is amused by them spending much of their time abusing each other and calling each other traitors.
It comes as a bit of a relief to find out that most of them are thick as shit and more likely to kill each other than their avowed enemies, or kill themselves accidentally in a half-arsed attempt to make a .I think that's a perfectly normal and sane reason for visitng such sites.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30755146</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750086</id>
	<title>NSFW?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263396240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
OK, I'm ignorant: NSFW is what, "not suitable for women?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , I 'm ignorant : NSFW is what , " not suitable for women ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
OK, I'm ignorant: NSFW is what, "not suitable for women?
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750130</id>
	<title>A Business Decision?</title>
	<author>Ukab the Great</author>
	<datestamp>1263396540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it's more likely that there were other business considerations that had already made Google feel like it was difficult to do business with China, and the censorship lift is just PR gravy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's more likely that there were other business considerations that had already made Google feel like it was difficult to do business with China , and the censorship lift is just PR gravy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's more likely that there were other business considerations that had already made Google feel like it was difficult to do business with China, and the censorship lift is just PR gravy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30749986</id>
	<title>Screw national interests</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263395700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When something is on the internet, there should be no possibility of withdraw.<br>DNS is the first thing that needs securing. I know DNSSEC gives authenticated proof of non-existence. That's a start, because DNS whitewashing is the low hanging fruit of internet censorship.</p><p>The internet community needs the technical infrastructure to steamroller Chinese censorship, Southern states on an anti-gambling warpath, Conservative Australian<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Peter Mandelson</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When something is on the internet , there should be no possibility of withdraw.DNS is the first thing that needs securing .
I know DNSSEC gives authenticated proof of non-existence .
That 's a start , because DNS whitewashing is the low hanging fruit of internet censorship.The internet community needs the technical infrastructure to steamroller Chinese censorship , Southern states on an anti-gambling warpath , Conservative Australian ... Peter Mandelson</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When something is on the internet, there should be no possibility of withdraw.DNS is the first thing that needs securing.
I know DNSSEC gives authenticated proof of non-existence.
That's a start, because DNS whitewashing is the low hanging fruit of internet censorship.The internet community needs the technical infrastructure to steamroller Chinese censorship, Southern states on an anti-gambling warpath, Conservative Australian ... Peter Mandelson</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1322225.30750622</id>
	<title>Google Just Can't Win</title>
	<author>vampire\_baozi</author>
	<datestamp>1263398580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No matter what it does, we are too distrustful of large MNCs to ever assume they are capable of actually making a principled stand that would run contrary to business interests.  The Google narrative of the situation is fairly clear: one of the costs of doing business in China was to kowtow to government censorship demands (complying with Chinese law, as they comply with American law in America and German law in Germany).  They felt it was wrong (or not) but claimed the greater evil would be to NOT enter the search market, leaving it to be dominated by companies who would have no qualms about censorship whatsoever (see Yahoo handing over IP addresses).<br>They later discovered they had no leverage; the good they could do by being able to provide search results that were clearly marked as "censored" was outweighed by the harm that could be done by leaked information, and they were unable to do anything (within the bounds of Chinese law) to prevent it.  Thus, they reevaluated, and are considering exiting the market.</p><p>The alternative is that it is simply a business strategy switch: they discovered the market is unprofitable, and are exiting or some shit.</p><p>The problem with this is simple: even if we concede that Chinese consumers don't click or buy anything through Google ads, rendering their business model moot, Google needs the market share.  The Chinese will not always be poor.  There are huge number of middle class Chinese in cities with enough disposable income to make purchases.  The revenue streams will grow over the years.  If they cede the market to Baidu, by the time the Chinese are rich enough to afford to buy products online through ads, Google will have to enter the market as a new player with no market share to start.  Not being a business analyst for google, I do not know exactly how many clicks they need to remain profitable in China.  But given the huge numbers of urban Chinese with money to spare, and the impressive rate of growth, it will only be a matter of time before (urban) China catches up to Taiwan and Korea (and eventually Japan).  When that happens, it will be a much more profitable market than the US and Europe.</p><p>While I'm inclined to distrust MNCs, it is possible that they really are trying to make a stand.  Did anyone know/leak this before it was announced, making them fear a Yahoo-style shitstorm?  Otherwise, it would have made more sense to keep it quiet, simply say there was an attack, and leave the targets of the attack unannounced, and then continue business as usual.  But no matter what it does, it will be accused of simply following the money.  But hey, props to google for trying, in my book.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No matter what it does , we are too distrustful of large MNCs to ever assume they are capable of actually making a principled stand that would run contrary to business interests .
The Google narrative of the situation is fairly clear : one of the costs of doing business in China was to kowtow to government censorship demands ( complying with Chinese law , as they comply with American law in America and German law in Germany ) .
They felt it was wrong ( or not ) but claimed the greater evil would be to NOT enter the search market , leaving it to be dominated by companies who would have no qualms about censorship whatsoever ( see Yahoo handing over IP addresses ) .They later discovered they had no leverage ; the good they could do by being able to provide search results that were clearly marked as " censored " was outweighed by the harm that could be done by leaked information , and they were unable to do anything ( within the bounds of Chinese law ) to prevent it .
Thus , they reevaluated , and are considering exiting the market.The alternative is that it is simply a business strategy switch : they discovered the market is unprofitable , and are exiting or some shit.The problem with this is simple : even if we concede that Chinese consumers do n't click or buy anything through Google ads , rendering their business model moot , Google needs the market share .
The Chinese will not always be poor .
There are huge number of middle class Chinese in cities with enough disposable income to make purchases .
The revenue streams will grow over the years .
If they cede the market to Baidu , by the time the Chinese are rich enough to afford to buy products online through ads , Google will have to enter the market as a new player with no market share to start .
Not being a business analyst for google , I do not know exactly how many clicks they need to remain profitable in China .
But given the huge numbers of urban Chinese with money to spare , and the impressive rate of growth , it will only be a matter of time before ( urban ) China catches up to Taiwan and Korea ( and eventually Japan ) .
When that happens , it will be a much more profitable market than the US and Europe.While I 'm inclined to distrust MNCs , it is possible that they really are trying to make a stand .
Did anyone know/leak this before it was announced , making them fear a Yahoo-style shitstorm ?
Otherwise , it would have made more sense to keep it quiet , simply say there was an attack , and leave the targets of the attack unannounced , and then continue business as usual .
But no matter what it does , it will be accused of simply following the money .
But hey , props to google for trying , in my book .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No matter what it does, we are too distrustful of large MNCs to ever assume they are capable of actually making a principled stand that would run contrary to business interests.
The Google narrative of the situation is fairly clear: one of the costs of doing business in China was to kowtow to government censorship demands (complying with Chinese law, as they comply with American law in America and German law in Germany).
They felt it was wrong (or not) but claimed the greater evil would be to NOT enter the search market, leaving it to be dominated by companies who would have no qualms about censorship whatsoever (see Yahoo handing over IP addresses).They later discovered they had no leverage; the good they could do by being able to provide search results that were clearly marked as "censored" was outweighed by the harm that could be done by leaked information, and they were unable to do anything (within the bounds of Chinese law) to prevent it.
Thus, they reevaluated, and are considering exiting the market.The alternative is that it is simply a business strategy switch: they discovered the market is unprofitable, and are exiting or some shit.The problem with this is simple: even if we concede that Chinese consumers don't click or buy anything through Google ads, rendering their business model moot, Google needs the market share.
The Chinese will not always be poor.
There are huge number of middle class Chinese in cities with enough disposable income to make purchases.
The revenue streams will grow over the years.
If they cede the market to Baidu, by the time the Chinese are rich enough to afford to buy products online through ads, Google will have to enter the market as a new player with no market share to start.
Not being a business analyst for google, I do not know exactly how many clicks they need to remain profitable in China.
But given the huge numbers of urban Chinese with money to spare, and the impressive rate of growth, it will only be a matter of time before (urban) China catches up to Taiwan and Korea (and eventually Japan).
When that happens, it will be a much more profitable market than the US and Europe.While I'm inclined to distrust MNCs, it is possible that they really are trying to make a stand.
Did anyone know/leak this before it was announced, making them fear a Yahoo-style shitstorm?
Otherwise, it would have made more sense to keep it quiet, simply say there was an attack, and leave the targets of the attack unannounced, and then continue business as usual.
But no matter what it does, it will be accused of simply following the money.
But hey, props to google for trying, in my book.</sentencetext>
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