<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_11_1016237</id>
	<title>Does a Lame E-Mail Address Really Matter?</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1263215160000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>theodp writes <i>"Over at the Chicago Tribune, freelance writer Nancy Anderson makes an embarrassing confession. <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-perspec0110addressjan10,0,7985356.story">It's 2010 and she still has an AOL e-mail address</a>. 'You've got to get rid of that AOL address,' her publicist sister told her five years ago. 'It's bad for your image.' Image, shmimage, Anderson thought. 'If I do good work,' she asks, 'does my e-mail address really matter?' Good question. Would an AOL e-mail address &mdash; or another 'toxic' e-mail address &mdash; influence your decision to hire someone?"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>theodp writes " Over at the Chicago Tribune , freelance writer Nancy Anderson makes an embarrassing confession .
It 's 2010 and she still has an AOL e-mail address .
'You 've got to get rid of that AOL address, ' her publicist sister told her five years ago .
'It 's bad for your image .
' Image , shmimage , Anderson thought .
'If I do good work, ' she asks , 'does my e-mail address really matter ?
' Good question .
Would an AOL e-mail address    or another 'toxic ' e-mail address    influence your decision to hire someone ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>theodp writes "Over at the Chicago Tribune, freelance writer Nancy Anderson makes an embarrassing confession.
It's 2010 and she still has an AOL e-mail address.
'You've got to get rid of that AOL address,' her publicist sister told her five years ago.
'It's bad for your image.
' Image, shmimage, Anderson thought.
'If I do good work,' she asks, 'does my e-mail address really matter?
' Good question.
Would an AOL e-mail address — or another 'toxic' e-mail address — influence your decision to hire someone?
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721950</id>
	<title>Someone set up us the email!</title>
	<author>Silent Node</author>
	<datestamp>1263219420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I no longer even want to think about changing my email address. I've been on Gmail now ever since I was able to beg an invite, and it would suck to try to update that many contacts.</p><p>This post did get me remembering when I used an @bigfoot.com redirector for a long time until they made some changes to the service that I didn't like.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I no longer even want to think about changing my email address .
I 've been on Gmail now ever since I was able to beg an invite , and it would suck to try to update that many contacts.This post did get me remembering when I used an @ bigfoot.com redirector for a long time until they made some changes to the service that I did n't like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I no longer even want to think about changing my email address.
I've been on Gmail now ever since I was able to beg an invite, and it would suck to try to update that many contacts.This post did get me remembering when I used an @bigfoot.com redirector for a long time until they made some changes to the service that I didn't like.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722384</id>
	<title>Definitely, for IT positions</title>
	<author>webreaper</author>
	<datestamp>1263221880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I see a developer candidate who has his own personal domain, I'll mod him up. If I see somebody with AOL, I'll be less convinced. It's a bit like going for an interview with a mobile phone carrier, and giving a land-line as your phone number. Or maybe going for an interview as an HGV driver and asking if somebody can pick you up from the station.

</p><p>The thing that really irritates the hell out of me is seeing vans for tradesman who have their own domain, but an AOL email address. E.g.

</p><p>www.andys-plumbing.co.uk
</p><p>andysplumbing@aol.com

</p><p>Grrrr!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I see a developer candidate who has his own personal domain , I 'll mod him up .
If I see somebody with AOL , I 'll be less convinced .
It 's a bit like going for an interview with a mobile phone carrier , and giving a land-line as your phone number .
Or maybe going for an interview as an HGV driver and asking if somebody can pick you up from the station .
The thing that really irritates the hell out of me is seeing vans for tradesman who have their own domain , but an AOL email address .
E.g . www.andys-plumbing.co.uk andysplumbing @ aol.com Grrrr !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I see a developer candidate who has his own personal domain, I'll mod him up.
If I see somebody with AOL, I'll be less convinced.
It's a bit like going for an interview with a mobile phone carrier, and giving a land-line as your phone number.
Or maybe going for an interview as an HGV driver and asking if somebody can pick you up from the station.
The thing that really irritates the hell out of me is seeing vans for tradesman who have their own domain, but an AOL email address.
E.g.

www.andys-plumbing.co.uk
andysplumbing@aol.com

Grrrr!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726644</id>
	<title>Re:It's what comes before the @ that matters</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263241020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't honestly think that any address which conforms to the firstname.lastname@isp.com format (or any other varation including initials, dots etc) will set any alarm bells ringing for any sensible employer.</p></div><p>I believe you've never interviewed anyone from the Gaylord family? How about the woodcock family?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't honestly think that any address which conforms to the firstname.lastname @ isp.com format ( or any other varation including initials , dots etc ) will set any alarm bells ringing for any sensible employer.I believe you 've never interviewed anyone from the Gaylord family ?
How about the woodcock family ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't honestly think that any address which conforms to the firstname.lastname@isp.com format (or any other varation including initials, dots etc) will set any alarm bells ringing for any sensible employer.I believe you've never interviewed anyone from the Gaylord family?
How about the woodcock family?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721918</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725472</id>
	<title>Re:You're kidding, right?</title>
	<author>QuietLagoon</author>
	<datestamp>1263235680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>LOL!  There's one in every crowd.   Dozens on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.</htmltext>
<tokenext>LOL !
There 's one in every crowd .
Dozens on / .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>LOL!
There's one in every crowd.
Dozens on /.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723826</id>
	<title>Yes. Technical reasons fool.</title>
	<author>unity100</author>
	<datestamp>1263228720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>aol is not a polished provider. they have overeager spam filters marking legitimate emails mistakenly spam too often. they also block entire ip ranges to prevent 'spam'.</p><p>what this means is, someone using an aol email address will be regularly missing a lot of legitimate normal and business emails because aol either blocks their ip range en masse because it saw some spammers using zombies in that address block, (or some black sheep spamming from shared hosting) or their overeager spam filter marked it as spam.</p><p>it means that you are living in the digital age, but dont know zit about which service good or which service not. its like using a crappy phone service for business despite you have premier services available.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>aol is not a polished provider .
they have overeager spam filters marking legitimate emails mistakenly spam too often .
they also block entire ip ranges to prevent 'spam'.what this means is , someone using an aol email address will be regularly missing a lot of legitimate normal and business emails because aol either blocks their ip range en masse because it saw some spammers using zombies in that address block , ( or some black sheep spamming from shared hosting ) or their overeager spam filter marked it as spam.it means that you are living in the digital age , but dont know zit about which service good or which service not .
its like using a crappy phone service for business despite you have premier services available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>aol is not a polished provider.
they have overeager spam filters marking legitimate emails mistakenly spam too often.
they also block entire ip ranges to prevent 'spam'.what this means is, someone using an aol email address will be regularly missing a lot of legitimate normal and business emails because aol either blocks their ip range en masse because it saw some spammers using zombies in that address block, (or some black sheep spamming from shared hosting) or their overeager spam filter marked it as spam.it means that you are living in the digital age, but dont know zit about which service good or which service not.
its like using a crappy phone service for business despite you have premier services available.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721958</id>
	<title>Yes, For Business!</title>
	<author>Breccia</author>
	<datestamp>1263219480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just two days ago my company received an inquiry from what might have been a potential new client -- but they used a gmail e-mail address.
<br>
At my company, we assume that legit businesses have company e-mail addresses like joe@mycompany.com -- anything else say potential spam or worse...
<br>
My Auntie Mable on the other hand uses one of the "public" e-mail providers, and that's just fine.
<br>
Just my 2 cents worth...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just two days ago my company received an inquiry from what might have been a potential new client -- but they used a gmail e-mail address .
At my company , we assume that legit businesses have company e-mail addresses like joe @ mycompany.com -- anything else say potential spam or worse.. . My Auntie Mable on the other hand uses one of the " public " e-mail providers , and that 's just fine .
Just my 2 cents worth.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just two days ago my company received an inquiry from what might have been a potential new client -- but they used a gmail e-mail address.
At my company, we assume that legit businesses have company e-mail addresses like joe@mycompany.com -- anything else say potential spam or worse...

My Auntie Mable on the other hand uses one of the "public" e-mail providers, and that's just fine.
Just my 2 cents worth...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722790</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>qoncept</author>
	<datestamp>1263223620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow, really? I use gmail now, and the genuine reason I prefer it to anything else is that it's not Hotmail but will survive if I change ISPs. I own several domains and never even considered using one of them for my personal email simply to please the man, and have no other reason to do it.

<br>You're saying you'd not only make a snap judgement about me based on that, and not only admit it, but you'd talk about it like that was a completely reasonable judgement? Think about it. If someone is in tech, they MUST know what email options are available to them. The one they use is the one they chose to use. Seems to me their biggest fault is choosing a different option than you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , really ?
I use gmail now , and the genuine reason I prefer it to anything else is that it 's not Hotmail but will survive if I change ISPs .
I own several domains and never even considered using one of them for my personal email simply to please the man , and have no other reason to do it .
You 're saying you 'd not only make a snap judgement about me based on that , and not only admit it , but you 'd talk about it like that was a completely reasonable judgement ?
Think about it .
If someone is in tech , they MUST know what email options are available to them .
The one they use is the one they chose to use .
Seems to me their biggest fault is choosing a different option than you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, really?
I use gmail now, and the genuine reason I prefer it to anything else is that it's not Hotmail but will survive if I change ISPs.
I own several domains and never even considered using one of them for my personal email simply to please the man, and have no other reason to do it.
You're saying you'd not only make a snap judgement about me based on that, and not only admit it, but you'd talk about it like that was a completely reasonable judgement?
Think about it.
If someone is in tech, they MUST know what email options are available to them.
The one they use is the one they chose to use.
Seems to me their biggest fault is choosing a different option than you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721856</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722416</id>
	<title>"Its HanSolo64@compuserv.net"</title>
	<author>Rooked\_One</author>
	<datestamp>1263222000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Compu...?"<br> <br>"Yes Compuserv."</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Compu... ?
" " Yes Compuserv .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Compu...?
" "Yes Compuserv.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721852</id>
	<title>I don't think it will cost you a job.</title>
	<author>AbRASiON</author>
	<datestamp>1263218940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>but it sure will make you look a bit dopey if you're still rolling with hotmail or aol.<br>I see usa.net is still around too, I had one of those a long long time ago too.</p><p>Now if you're not rolling your own domain, gmail or at least a respectable ISP in the very least your co-workers will give you a bit of shit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>but it sure will make you look a bit dopey if you 're still rolling with hotmail or aol.I see usa.net is still around too , I had one of those a long long time ago too.Now if you 're not rolling your own domain , gmail or at least a respectable ISP in the very least your co-workers will give you a bit of shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but it sure will make you look a bit dopey if you're still rolling with hotmail or aol.I see usa.net is still around too, I had one of those a long long time ago too.Now if you're not rolling your own domain, gmail or at least a respectable ISP in the very least your co-workers will give you a bit of shit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721916</id>
	<title>Yes--sometimes</title>
	<author>Kopachris</author>
	<datestamp>1263219300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree with most of these Anonymous Cowards here: it all depends on the job.  If the job is technology-related, I'm less likely to trust someone with an AOL address than someone with a Gmail address.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree with most of these Anonymous Cowards here : it all depends on the job .
If the job is technology-related , I 'm less likely to trust someone with an AOL address than someone with a Gmail address .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree with most of these Anonymous Cowards here: it all depends on the job.
If the job is technology-related, I'm less likely to trust someone with an AOL address than someone with a Gmail address.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724836</id>
	<title>Re:hey!</title>
	<author>rwv</author>
	<datestamp>1263233400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
Doesn't a post from Ryan North or any of the other comics referenced under every XKCD strip hold any weight for you?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't a post from Ryan North or any of the other comics referenced under every XKCD strip hold any weight for you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Doesn't a post from Ryan North or any of the other comics referenced under every XKCD strip hold any weight for you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722734</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723146</id>
	<title>Why risk it?</title>
	<author>jc364</author>
	<datestamp>1263225480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you are applying for a job, and you have any question as to whether or not something might keep you from getting hired, why would you risk it?  It's so easy just to create a new email address.  Don't risk losing the job over something so easy to fix.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you are applying for a job , and you have any question as to whether or not something might keep you from getting hired , why would you risk it ?
It 's so easy just to create a new email address .
Do n't risk losing the job over something so easy to fix .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you are applying for a job, and you have any question as to whether or not something might keep you from getting hired, why would you risk it?
It's so easy just to create a new email address.
Don't risk losing the job over something so easy to fix.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30732592</id>
	<title>Most small businesspeople are not all that savvy.</title>
	<author>kickassweb</author>
	<datestamp>1263224820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most of my clients don't want to switch their email from their ISP to their domain, since they have no clue how to reconfigure the email client. And that's something I can't do for them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of my clients do n't want to switch their email from their ISP to their domain , since they have no clue how to reconfigure the email client .
And that 's something I ca n't do for them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of my clients don't want to switch their email from their ISP to their domain, since they have no clue how to reconfigure the email client.
And that's something I can't do for them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721856</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30734692</id>
	<title>Re:It's like clothes. . .</title>
	<author>CAIMLAS</author>
	<datestamp>1263292080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I am the person I am, and my clothes are just bits of cloth. Fashion is for people who are willing to judge people on the superficial!</p></div><p>Yet, at least in IT, your email address is a bit more than that. It speaks of your technical preferences and can at least point to a person's technical ability (eg. aol.com doesn't allow IMAP or POP3).</p><p>Would I hire a Windows administrator with an @ilife.com (or whatever) Apple branded email address? Hell no. I'd probably not hire someone to work at an all-Mac design shop if the person had an @live.com address, either.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am the person I am , and my clothes are just bits of cloth .
Fashion is for people who are willing to judge people on the superficial ! Yet , at least in IT , your email address is a bit more than that .
It speaks of your technical preferences and can at least point to a person 's technical ability ( eg .
aol.com does n't allow IMAP or POP3 ) .Would I hire a Windows administrator with an @ ilife.com ( or whatever ) Apple branded email address ?
Hell no .
I 'd probably not hire someone to work at an all-Mac design shop if the person had an @ live.com address , either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am the person I am, and my clothes are just bits of cloth.
Fashion is for people who are willing to judge people on the superficial!Yet, at least in IT, your email address is a bit more than that.
It speaks of your technical preferences and can at least point to a person's technical ability (eg.
aol.com doesn't allow IMAP or POP3).Would I hire a Windows administrator with an @ilife.com (or whatever) Apple branded email address?
Hell no.
I'd probably not hire someone to work at an all-Mac design shop if the person had an @live.com address, either.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722734</id>
	<title>Re:hey!</title>
	<author>halcyon1234</author>
	<datestamp>1263223380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Hey, I've actually done a comic (http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1416) on this subject! I'm firmly in the "I'd rather you have a cool email address then a suck-up one" camp.</p></div><p>Funny, but could you provide an XKCD reference instead? =)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , I 've actually done a comic ( http : //www.qwantz.com/index.php ? comic = 1416 ) on this subject !
I 'm firmly in the " I 'd rather you have a cool email address then a suck-up one " camp.Funny , but could you provide an XKCD reference instead ?
= )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, I've actually done a comic (http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1416) on this subject!
I'm firmly in the "I'd rather you have a cool email address then a suck-up one" camp.Funny, but could you provide an XKCD reference instead?
=)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723106</id>
	<title>The company you keep.</title>
	<author>ArundelCastle</author>
	<datestamp>1263225240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Gee, remember when short domains were cool?  And ones that spell themselves?  Not no more.</p><p>Is @aol.com worse than @compuserve.com?  Is it the age of the service we're supposed to be discriminating against, or just the fact they're the ISP that launched a thousand-thousand newbies?  I'd hate to hate for the wrong reasons.....</p><p>Years ago many of my classmates decided to switch e-mails at the end of school for resume purposes.  Usually from hotmail to yahoo, and some are using gmail more nowadays.  The concern with hotmail was less about brand recognition and more about spam recognition. Worries that hotmail addresses were more likely to be filtered by the employer, and more likely for a job offer to end up in the Junk folder.  Yahoo isn't exactly more professional, they just figured it was more reliable, and I expect employers did too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gee , remember when short domains were cool ?
And ones that spell themselves ?
Not no more.Is @ aol.com worse than @ compuserve.com ?
Is it the age of the service we 're supposed to be discriminating against , or just the fact they 're the ISP that launched a thousand-thousand newbies ?
I 'd hate to hate for the wrong reasons.....Years ago many of my classmates decided to switch e-mails at the end of school for resume purposes .
Usually from hotmail to yahoo , and some are using gmail more nowadays .
The concern with hotmail was less about brand recognition and more about spam recognition .
Worries that hotmail addresses were more likely to be filtered by the employer , and more likely for a job offer to end up in the Junk folder .
Yahoo is n't exactly more professional , they just figured it was more reliable , and I expect employers did too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gee, remember when short domains were cool?
And ones that spell themselves?
Not no more.Is @aol.com worse than @compuserve.com?
Is it the age of the service we're supposed to be discriminating against, or just the fact they're the ISP that launched a thousand-thousand newbies?
I'd hate to hate for the wrong reasons.....Years ago many of my classmates decided to switch e-mails at the end of school for resume purposes.
Usually from hotmail to yahoo, and some are using gmail more nowadays.
The concern with hotmail was less about brand recognition and more about spam recognition.
Worries that hotmail addresses were more likely to be filtered by the employer, and more likely for a job offer to end up in the Junk folder.
Yahoo isn't exactly more professional, they just figured it was more reliable, and I expect employers did too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722844</id>
	<title>Re:nicknames of the upmodded comments so far:</title>
	<author>tsstahl</author>
	<datestamp>1263223860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hear, hear!  Sorry.  I don't have mod points.
<br> <br>
Or is it supposed to be "here, here"?  I never thought about it before beyond being told once that it is short and/or slang for 'hear ye, hear ye'.  Anyway, MPU!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hear , hear !
Sorry. I do n't have mod points .
Or is it supposed to be " here , here " ?
I never thought about it before beyond being told once that it is short and/or slang for 'hear ye , hear ye' .
Anyway , MPU !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hear, hear!
Sorry.  I don't have mod points.
Or is it supposed to be "here, here"?
I never thought about it before beyond being told once that it is short and/or slang for 'hear ye, hear ye'.
Anyway, MPU!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724278</id>
	<title>A Gmail account says to me...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263231060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're a cheapskate who's willing to trade your privacy for free e-mail. How smart is that?<br> <br>
A person - particularly a non-IT person - who still uses AOL obviously does so for a reason. Such as, it's the address they've been using for 10+ years, everyone they know - both personally and professionally - knows them by that address, it's easy to remember, and it always works.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're a cheapskate who 's willing to trade your privacy for free e-mail .
How smart is that ?
A person - particularly a non-IT person - who still uses AOL obviously does so for a reason .
Such as , it 's the address they 've been using for 10 + years , everyone they know - both personally and professionally - knows them by that address , it 's easy to remember , and it always works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're a cheapskate who's willing to trade your privacy for free e-mail.
How smart is that?
A person - particularly a non-IT person - who still uses AOL obviously does so for a reason.
Such as, it's the address they've been using for 10+ years, everyone they know - both personally and professionally - knows them by that address, it's easy to remember, and it always works.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30732156</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the new cool?</title>
	<author>lpaul55</author>
	<datestamp>1263221460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As far as I know, nobody has an email address at the "ibm.com" domain because IBM Corp. doesn't do email that way!</p><p>All IBM email addresses use subdomains, like us.ibm.com for the USofA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As far as I know , nobody has an email address at the " ibm.com " domain because IBM Corp. does n't do email that way ! All IBM email addresses use subdomains , like us.ibm.com for the USofA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As far as I know, nobody has an email address at the "ibm.com" domain because IBM Corp. doesn't do email that way!All IBM email addresses use subdomains, like us.ibm.com for the USofA.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30735744</id>
	<title>Re:People still use email?</title>
	<author>David Jao</author>
	<datestamp>1263304020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Individual people still use email?  In this era of social networking, etc, I no longer use email for "personal" activities.</p></div><p>I avoid social networking out of principle. Practically every week you see a new story about how Facebook sells your personal data. Just today their CEO proclaimed that users don't want privacy. This is an astoundingly disturbing statement, one that can only be explained by either incompetence or malice, and given their success so far, I'm not inclined to bet that they are incompetent. Such a company is pure evil; it's very easy to understand why someone would boycott it.
</p><p>
Gmail is <strong>almost</strong> as bad, but at least their CEO pays lip service to users' privacy instead of outright announcing that they have none, and at least Gmail exports standard SMTP/IMAP. For what it's worth, I don't use Gmail or any third-party webmail either.
</p><p>
For the record, I am not a Luddite or resistant to new ideas. I embrace <em>good</em> ideas. I reject <em>bad</em> ideas. So-called social networking is uniformly bad. Twitter in particular is moronic beyond belief. A blog with a 140-character post limit is <strong>not</strong> in any way better than a normal blog.
</p><p>
The only compelling use case for third-party messaging services is special-purpose media such as SMS where email is unavailable. "Social networking" does not qualify.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Individual people still use email ?
In this era of social networking , etc , I no longer use email for " personal " activities.I avoid social networking out of principle .
Practically every week you see a new story about how Facebook sells your personal data .
Just today their CEO proclaimed that users do n't want privacy .
This is an astoundingly disturbing statement , one that can only be explained by either incompetence or malice , and given their success so far , I 'm not inclined to bet that they are incompetent .
Such a company is pure evil ; it 's very easy to understand why someone would boycott it .
Gmail is almost as bad , but at least their CEO pays lip service to users ' privacy instead of outright announcing that they have none , and at least Gmail exports standard SMTP/IMAP .
For what it 's worth , I do n't use Gmail or any third-party webmail either .
For the record , I am not a Luddite or resistant to new ideas .
I embrace good ideas .
I reject bad ideas .
So-called social networking is uniformly bad .
Twitter in particular is moronic beyond belief .
A blog with a 140-character post limit is not in any way better than a normal blog .
The only compelling use case for third-party messaging services is special-purpose media such as SMS where email is unavailable .
" Social networking " does not qualify .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Individual people still use email?
In this era of social networking, etc, I no longer use email for "personal" activities.I avoid social networking out of principle.
Practically every week you see a new story about how Facebook sells your personal data.
Just today their CEO proclaimed that users don't want privacy.
This is an astoundingly disturbing statement, one that can only be explained by either incompetence or malice, and given their success so far, I'm not inclined to bet that they are incompetent.
Such a company is pure evil; it's very easy to understand why someone would boycott it.
Gmail is almost as bad, but at least their CEO pays lip service to users' privacy instead of outright announcing that they have none, and at least Gmail exports standard SMTP/IMAP.
For what it's worth, I don't use Gmail or any third-party webmail either.
For the record, I am not a Luddite or resistant to new ideas.
I embrace good ideas.
I reject bad ideas.
So-called social networking is uniformly bad.
Twitter in particular is moronic beyond belief.
A blog with a 140-character post limit is not in any way better than a normal blog.
The only compelling use case for third-party messaging services is special-purpose media such as SMS where email is unavailable.
"Social networking" does not qualify.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721984</id>
	<title>So what's the new cool?</title>
	<author>hduff</author>
	<datestamp>1263219600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So what's the new cool?</p><p>

j.public@ibm.com?</p><p>


imsomebody@somebody.com?</p><p>


bigkarma@slashdot.org?</p><p>


a.megahottie@mayspace.com?</p><p>


me@gmail.com?</p><p>


What?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So what 's the new cool ?
j.public @ ibm.com ? imsomebody @ somebody.com ?
bigkarma @ slashdot.org ? a.megahottie @ mayspace.com ?
me @ gmail.com ? What ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what's the new cool?
j.public@ibm.com?


imsomebody@somebody.com?
bigkarma@slashdot.org?


a.megahottie@mayspace.com?
me@gmail.com?


What?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722392</id>
	<title>YES</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263221880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Domain issues:<br>Anyone using AOL says - I don't know anything about the internet.<br>Anyone using gmail says - I don't know anything about privacy, AND I don't care.<br>Anyone using HotMail says - I like Microsoft (or I don't know anything different).<br>Anyone using "mac.com" says - I'm an Apple loser with 1 button.</p><p>Cute usernames:<br>Anyone using a cute username (non-domain part), doesn't take life seriously<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... or a job.  First name, Last name, or some kind of initials with numbers after works to add a professional appearance.</p><p>Did I offend enough people?</p><p>As CIO, I wouldn't even hire people with these email addresses to a helpdesk dungeon position.<br>As a reader, I wouldn't believe anything written by an author with these email addresses. I would apply my own "this person is internet-stupid" filter. I couldn't help it.</p><p>Anyone who is trying to be a public person, author, or expert needs their own domain for email. Period.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Domain issues : Anyone using AOL says - I do n't know anything about the internet.Anyone using gmail says - I do n't know anything about privacy , AND I do n't care.Anyone using HotMail says - I like Microsoft ( or I do n't know anything different ) .Anyone using " mac.com " says - I 'm an Apple loser with 1 button.Cute usernames : Anyone using a cute username ( non-domain part ) , does n't take life seriously ... or a job .
First name , Last name , or some kind of initials with numbers after works to add a professional appearance.Did I offend enough people ? As CIO , I would n't even hire people with these email addresses to a helpdesk dungeon position.As a reader , I would n't believe anything written by an author with these email addresses .
I would apply my own " this person is internet-stupid " filter .
I could n't help it.Anyone who is trying to be a public person , author , or expert needs their own domain for email .
Period .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Domain issues:Anyone using AOL says - I don't know anything about the internet.Anyone using gmail says - I don't know anything about privacy, AND I don't care.Anyone using HotMail says - I like Microsoft (or I don't know anything different).Anyone using "mac.com" says - I'm an Apple loser with 1 button.Cute usernames:Anyone using a cute username (non-domain part), doesn't take life seriously ... or a job.
First name, Last name, or some kind of initials with numbers after works to add a professional appearance.Did I offend enough people?As CIO, I wouldn't even hire people with these email addresses to a helpdesk dungeon position.As a reader, I wouldn't believe anything written by an author with these email addresses.
I would apply my own "this person is internet-stupid" filter.
I couldn't help it.Anyone who is trying to be a public person, author, or expert needs their own domain for email.
Period.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30730314</id>
	<title>Re:It's what comes before the @ that matters</title>
	<author>z0idberg</author>
	<datestamp>1263210720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, if the office christmas party fell within the 3 month probation period of the hiring then I would consider giving partychick33 an interview at least.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , if the office christmas party fell within the 3 month probation period of the hiring then I would consider giving partychick33 an interview at least .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, if the office christmas party fell within the 3 month probation period of the hiring then I would consider giving partychick33 an interview at least.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722066</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>TheThiefMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1263219960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If it's a non-tech field, meh, I don't care that much. But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name, but still using @comcast or @aol on their business card for email.</p></div><p>Or on their van.</p><p>If you've got your own domain for your business, use it for your business email too! It looks so much more professional.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's a non-tech field , meh , I do n't care that much .
But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name , but still using @ comcast or @ aol on their business card for email.Or on their van.If you 've got your own domain for your business , use it for your business email too !
It looks so much more professional .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's a non-tech field, meh, I don't care that much.
But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name, but still using @comcast or @aol on their business card for email.Or on their van.If you've got your own domain for your business, use it for your business email too!
It looks so much more professional.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723680</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1263228120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I own several domain names, including my own name, but I don't use it for email. Who wants the headache of doing their own spam filtering? Not me.</p><p>If anything, I'd say that shows I'm a practical IT person, not something that should be dismissed out-of-hand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I own several domain names , including my own name , but I do n't use it for email .
Who wants the headache of doing their own spam filtering ?
Not me.If anything , I 'd say that shows I 'm a practical IT person , not something that should be dismissed out-of-hand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I own several domain names, including my own name, but I don't use it for email.
Who wants the headache of doing their own spam filtering?
Not me.If anything, I'd say that shows I'm a practical IT person, not something that should be dismissed out-of-hand.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724096</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263230040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which is sad. How can your be a good developer if you don't understand at least a bit about the system you're developing on? Sure, I don't expect developers to set up a thousand-user active directory server, but at least know how to run a scandisk and such. If you can't, why should I have any faith in the program you create? Not to mention there are a lot of developers in the "It's Java! I'll just allocate a new object!" school of thought that blow the shit out of system resources because they know nothing about computers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which is sad .
How can your be a good developer if you do n't understand at least a bit about the system you 're developing on ?
Sure , I do n't expect developers to set up a thousand-user active directory server , but at least know how to run a scandisk and such .
If you ca n't , why should I have any faith in the program you create ?
Not to mention there are a lot of developers in the " It 's Java !
I 'll just allocate a new object !
" school of thought that blow the shit out of system resources because they know nothing about computers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which is sad.
How can your be a good developer if you don't understand at least a bit about the system you're developing on?
Sure, I don't expect developers to set up a thousand-user active directory server, but at least know how to run a scandisk and such.
If you can't, why should I have any faith in the program you create?
Not to mention there are a lot of developers in the "It's Java!
I'll just allocate a new object!
" school of thought that blow the shit out of system resources because they know nothing about computers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30730780</id>
	<title>Re:Username matters too</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1263213000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>kind of like wearing a tshirt with a weird slogan on it to the interview, although certainly not so severe.</p></div><p>How about these wearing a shirt that says "NSFW"?</p><p><a href="http://www.zazzle.com/nsfw+tshirts" title="zazzle.com">http://www.zazzle.com/nsfw+tshirts</a> [zazzle.com]<br><a href="http://www.force18.co.uk/nsfw-tshirt-p-451.html" title="force18.co.uk">http://www.force18.co.uk/nsfw-tshirt-p-451.html</a> [force18.co.uk]<br><a href="http://www.kaboodle.com/reviews/nsfw--t-shirt--xl" title="kaboodle.com">http://www.kaboodle.com/reviews/nsfw--t-shirt--xl</a> [kaboodle.com]</p><p>Oh well, maybe one ought to go for "Will work for Mana."</p><p><a href="http://www.geeklabel.com/show\_category.php?cat=ccg+tcg" title="geeklabel.com">http://www.geeklabel.com/show\_category.php?cat=ccg+tcg</a> [geeklabel.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>kind of like wearing a tshirt with a weird slogan on it to the interview , although certainly not so severe.How about these wearing a shirt that says " NSFW " ? http : //www.zazzle.com/nsfw + tshirts [ zazzle.com ] http : //www.force18.co.uk/nsfw-tshirt-p-451.html [ force18.co.uk ] http : //www.kaboodle.com/reviews/nsfw--t-shirt--xl [ kaboodle.com ] Oh well , maybe one ought to go for " Will work for Mana .
" http : //www.geeklabel.com/show \ _category.php ? cat = ccg + tcg [ geeklabel.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>kind of like wearing a tshirt with a weird slogan on it to the interview, although certainly not so severe.How about these wearing a shirt that says "NSFW"?http://www.zazzle.com/nsfw+tshirts [zazzle.com]http://www.force18.co.uk/nsfw-tshirt-p-451.html [force18.co.uk]http://www.kaboodle.com/reviews/nsfw--t-shirt--xl [kaboodle.com]Oh well, maybe one ought to go for "Will work for Mana.
"http://www.geeklabel.com/show\_category.php?cat=ccg+tcg [geeklabel.com]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30728730</id>
	<title>I just got an AOL email address</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263204480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OK, it wasn't willingly, but I can't complain. I used to be the biggest AOL hater back in the day. And now my "funny domain" Mail.com account, a leftover from the 90s, was migrated from Outblaze to AOL. I don't use it except for throwaway logins, but now it got a nice webmail interface and POP/SMTP/IMAP, and I couldn't have imagined myself ever saying this: Thank you AOL!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , it was n't willingly , but I ca n't complain .
I used to be the biggest AOL hater back in the day .
And now my " funny domain " Mail.com account , a leftover from the 90s , was migrated from Outblaze to AOL .
I do n't use it except for throwaway logins , but now it got a nice webmail interface and POP/SMTP/IMAP , and I could n't have imagined myself ever saying this : Thank you AOL !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, it wasn't willingly, but I can't complain.
I used to be the biggest AOL hater back in the day.
And now my "funny domain" Mail.com account, a leftover from the 90s, was migrated from Outblaze to AOL.
I don't use it except for throwaway logins, but now it got a nice webmail interface and POP/SMTP/IMAP, and I couldn't have imagined myself ever saying this: Thank you AOL!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721918</id>
	<title>It's what comes before the @ that matters</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263219300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Depends. I've done a good few external hires over the last few years, and while I'd never actively sift on the basis of e-mail addresses, there's no denying that an outlandish one can make an impact (and probably not the sort you wan to make).</p><p>I wouldn't particularly care about an AOL address. I don't honestly think that any address which conforms to the firstname.lastname@isp.com format (or any other varation including initials, dots etc) will set any alarm bells ringing for any sensible employer.</p><p>However, there is one type of e-mail address that does cause me concern. This is the obvious "naughty" one. I've actually seen job applications listing addresses like partychick33@... or drunkenmick@... These do not give a good impression. Is it unfair? Probably. After all, there's nothing wrong with going out and enjoying yourself. However, using that e-mail address for a job application does imply that you have a problem when dealing with boundaries.</p><p>To sum up; a potential employer is far more likely to be put off by what comes before the @ in your e-mail address than by what comes afterwards.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends .
I 've done a good few external hires over the last few years , and while I 'd never actively sift on the basis of e-mail addresses , there 's no denying that an outlandish one can make an impact ( and probably not the sort you wan to make ) .I would n't particularly care about an AOL address .
I do n't honestly think that any address which conforms to the firstname.lastname @ isp.com format ( or any other varation including initials , dots etc ) will set any alarm bells ringing for any sensible employer.However , there is one type of e-mail address that does cause me concern .
This is the obvious " naughty " one .
I 've actually seen job applications listing addresses like partychick33 @ ... or drunkenmick @ ... These do not give a good impression .
Is it unfair ?
Probably. After all , there 's nothing wrong with going out and enjoying yourself .
However , using that e-mail address for a job application does imply that you have a problem when dealing with boundaries.To sum up ; a potential employer is far more likely to be put off by what comes before the @ in your e-mail address than by what comes afterwards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends.
I've done a good few external hires over the last few years, and while I'd never actively sift on the basis of e-mail addresses, there's no denying that an outlandish one can make an impact (and probably not the sort you wan to make).I wouldn't particularly care about an AOL address.
I don't honestly think that any address which conforms to the firstname.lastname@isp.com format (or any other varation including initials, dots etc) will set any alarm bells ringing for any sensible employer.However, there is one type of e-mail address that does cause me concern.
This is the obvious "naughty" one.
I've actually seen job applications listing addresses like partychick33@... or drunkenmick@... These do not give a good impression.
Is it unfair?
Probably. After all, there's nothing wrong with going out and enjoying yourself.
However, using that e-mail address for a job application does imply that you have a problem when dealing with boundaries.To sum up; a potential employer is far more likely to be put off by what comes before the @ in your e-mail address than by what comes afterwards.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723746</id>
	<title>could an email address be to pretentious too?</title>
	<author>peter303</author>
	<datestamp>1263228360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I could use my stanford.edu or mit.edu alumni forwarding addresses in a job search.
But I have been pretty lucky and haven't needed to cold-call a job app in a couple of decades.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I could use my stanford.edu or mit.edu alumni forwarding addresses in a job search .
But I have been pretty lucky and have n't needed to cold-call a job app in a couple of decades .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I could use my stanford.edu or mit.edu alumni forwarding addresses in a job search.
But I have been pretty lucky and haven't needed to cold-call a job app in a couple of decades.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723248</id>
	<title>For simple reasons..</title>
	<author>arikol</author>
	<datestamp>1263225900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It matters.</p><p>One reason is that some companies have acquired bad reputations in the tech sector for various reasons. One reason might be privacy issues, another might be technical (recall the old closed nature of the AOL system), yet others could be social in nature (all technophobes seem to be their target group, therefore it gives an image of their users being technologically incompetent).<br>AOL users have an image of technological incompetence, that's the image you project when handing that address out.</p><p>Companies spend a lot of money on changing their image, yet it rarely works. A strong image is important, and must be cultivated from the start. So if the person in the story wants to change her image of technological incompetence she must be ready to spend some time on that</p><p>Similarly, Mac users have a reputation of smugness and being graphic designers. I use a mac, am rather smug, but I'm a USABILITY designer, world of difference<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)<br>Ok, sometimes the stereotypes actually fit..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It matters.One reason is that some companies have acquired bad reputations in the tech sector for various reasons .
One reason might be privacy issues , another might be technical ( recall the old closed nature of the AOL system ) , yet others could be social in nature ( all technophobes seem to be their target group , therefore it gives an image of their users being technologically incompetent ) .AOL users have an image of technological incompetence , that 's the image you project when handing that address out.Companies spend a lot of money on changing their image , yet it rarely works .
A strong image is important , and must be cultivated from the start .
So if the person in the story wants to change her image of technological incompetence she must be ready to spend some time on thatSimilarly , Mac users have a reputation of smugness and being graphic designers .
I use a mac , am rather smug , but I 'm a USABILITY designer , world of difference ; ) Ok , sometimes the stereotypes actually fit. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It matters.One reason is that some companies have acquired bad reputations in the tech sector for various reasons.
One reason might be privacy issues, another might be technical (recall the old closed nature of the AOL system), yet others could be social in nature (all technophobes seem to be their target group, therefore it gives an image of their users being technologically incompetent).AOL users have an image of technological incompetence, that's the image you project when handing that address out.Companies spend a lot of money on changing their image, yet it rarely works.
A strong image is important, and must be cultivated from the start.
So if the person in the story wants to change her image of technological incompetence she must be ready to spend some time on thatSimilarly, Mac users have a reputation of smugness and being graphic designers.
I use a mac, am rather smug, but I'm a USABILITY designer, world of difference ;)Ok, sometimes the stereotypes actually fit..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722328</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the new cool?</title>
	<author>JoeCommodore</author>
	<datestamp>1263221580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I could see being an owner of a failed company domain...  like chuck@enron.com, that seems kinda cool.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I could see being an owner of a failed company domain... like chuck @ enron.com , that seems kinda cool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I could see being an owner of a failed company domain...  like chuck@enron.com, that seems kinda cool.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724468</id>
	<title>Re:Hotmail is Microsoft</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263231960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And yet you are willing to send email to @gmail.com, where it will be *competantly* data-mined?</p><p>If Microsoft was in charge of the holocaust instead of IBM, millions of people would have lived due to computer errors...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And yet you are willing to send email to @ gmail.com , where it will be * competantly * data-mined ? If Microsoft was in charge of the holocaust instead of IBM , millions of people would have lived due to computer errors.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And yet you are willing to send email to @gmail.com, where it will be *competantly* data-mined?If Microsoft was in charge of the holocaust instead of IBM, millions of people would have lived due to computer errors...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721936</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726136</id>
	<title>Re:I don't think it will cost you a job.</title>
	<author>ericfitz</author>
	<datestamp>1263238920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why is Gmail any more "professional" than Hotmail?</p><p>All either address says about you is, "I got a free email address with a web interface".</p><p>Your anti-Microsoft bias is showing through.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is Gmail any more " professional " than Hotmail ? All either address says about you is , " I got a free email address with a web interface " .Your anti-Microsoft bias is showing through .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is Gmail any more "professional" than Hotmail?All either address says about you is, "I got a free email address with a web interface".Your anti-Microsoft bias is showing through.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721852</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726030</id>
	<title>Depends.</title>
	<author>smithmc</author>
	<datestamp>1263238440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it's a personal address, I don't think it matters.  But I do consider addresses like CompanyName@isp.net or CompanyName\_PersonsName@isp.net to appear somewhat unprofessional and indicative of an immature, unestablished business.  Business addresses should always be SomeFormOfPersonsName@CompanyName.com, IMO.  Similarly with websites like www.CompanyName.isp.net or www.isp.net/CompanyName, etc.  These days, it's easy enough to obtain Web space and mailboxes @CompanyName.com that there's no excuse not to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's a personal address , I do n't think it matters .
But I do consider addresses like CompanyName @ isp.net or CompanyName \ _PersonsName @ isp.net to appear somewhat unprofessional and indicative of an immature , unestablished business .
Business addresses should always be SomeFormOfPersonsName @ CompanyName.com , IMO .
Similarly with websites like www.CompanyName.isp.net or www.isp.net/CompanyName , etc .
These days , it 's easy enough to obtain Web space and mailboxes @ CompanyName.com that there 's no excuse not to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's a personal address, I don't think it matters.
But I do consider addresses like CompanyName@isp.net or CompanyName\_PersonsName@isp.net to appear somewhat unprofessional and indicative of an immature, unestablished business.
Business addresses should always be SomeFormOfPersonsName@CompanyName.com, IMO.
Similarly with websites like www.CompanyName.isp.net or www.isp.net/CompanyName, etc.
These days, it's easy enough to obtain Web space and mailboxes @CompanyName.com that there's no excuse not to.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723558</id>
	<title>Re:But it was the last domain available!</title>
	<author>AaxelB</author>
	<datestamp>1263227460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't even imagine how popular the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.fart TLD would be...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't even imagine how popular the .fart TLD would be.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't even imagine how popular the .fart TLD would be...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722022</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722562</id>
	<title>Bad Car Analogy</title>
	<author>TravisO</author>
	<datestamp>1263222600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well if you're applying for an IT job with an AOL address, no matter which side of the fence you are on, I can't help but think this is the equivalent of a car engineer applying at a German company and he drives a KIA.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well if you 're applying for an IT job with an AOL address , no matter which side of the fence you are on , I ca n't help but think this is the equivalent of a car engineer applying at a German company and he drives a KIA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well if you're applying for an IT job with an AOL address, no matter which side of the fence you are on, I can't help but think this is the equivalent of a car engineer applying at a German company and he drives a KIA.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723672</id>
	<title>Keep those .aol addresses</title>
	<author>billrp</author>
	<datestamp>1263228060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Someday they'll be considered retro</htmltext>
<tokenext>Someday they 'll be considered retro</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someday they'll be considered retro</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30727638</id>
	<title>Re:Absolutely not.</title>
	<author>Dynedain</author>
	<datestamp>1263200760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Personal domain a must?! For bunnies sakes<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</p></div></blockquote><p>Actually, when I've hired web developers I've been very suspicious of anyone applying who didn't have a personal domain.</p><p>Likewise, web designers without an online portfolio are probably not going to get called in for an interview.</p><p>It all depends what you're hiring for. If I was trying to hire an IT manager, AOL.com addresses are on the discard pile, but if I'm hiring an electrician it doesn't matter.</p><p>If you want to get a job in a specific industry, all parts of your resume (including email address) should portray experience and understanding of how that industry works. Otherwise you're going to be eliminated very early in the process in favor of candidates who do show that level of attention in how they portray themselves.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Personal domain a must ? !
For bunnies sakes ....Actually , when I 've hired web developers I 've been very suspicious of anyone applying who did n't have a personal domain.Likewise , web designers without an online portfolio are probably not going to get called in for an interview.It all depends what you 're hiring for .
If I was trying to hire an IT manager , AOL.com addresses are on the discard pile , but if I 'm hiring an electrician it does n't matter.If you want to get a job in a specific industry , all parts of your resume ( including email address ) should portray experience and understanding of how that industry works .
Otherwise you 're going to be eliminated very early in the process in favor of candidates who do show that level of attention in how they portray themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personal domain a must?!
For bunnies sakes ....Actually, when I've hired web developers I've been very suspicious of anyone applying who didn't have a personal domain.Likewise, web designers without an online portfolio are probably not going to get called in for an interview.It all depends what you're hiring for.
If I was trying to hire an IT manager, AOL.com addresses are on the discard pile, but if I'm hiring an electrician it doesn't matter.If you want to get a job in a specific industry, all parts of your resume (including email address) should portray experience and understanding of how that industry works.
Otherwise you're going to be eliminated very early in the process in favor of candidates who do show that level of attention in how they portray themselves.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30733012</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>longbot</author>
	<datestamp>1263228420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You must be part of the 5\% that the other 95\% give a bad name to.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You must be part of the 5 \ % that the other 95 \ % give a bad name to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You must be part of the 5\% that the other 95\% give a bad name to.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30729772</id>
	<title>What about your own nickname?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263208260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; circletimessquare</p><p>Add in a triangle, and you could aspire to be a Playstation controller...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; circletimessquareAdd in a triangle , and you could aspire to be a Playstation controller.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; circletimessquareAdd in a triangle, and you could aspire to be a Playstation controller...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723264</id>
	<title>The humiliation</title>
	<author>aolsheepdog</author>
	<datestamp>1263225960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just look at my Slashdot user name.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just look at my Slashdot user name .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just look at my Slashdot user name.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726064</id>
	<title>Re:But it was the last domain available!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263238620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nice SNL reference</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice SNL reference</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nice SNL reference</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723516</id>
	<title>Yes ... in more ways than one</title>
	<author>robbchadwick</author>
	<datestamp>1263227280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think that it does make a difference more &amp; more, especially aol, yahoo, hotmail and some of the other free ones. I work in the world of publishing, specifically classified advertising, and we have a huge amount of fraud attempted with these types of email addresses. Even gmail is beginning to be suspect. I understand that everyone wants an email address that is portable. A service like MobileMe costs less than $10 a month and it's portable and offers other advantages as well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that it does make a difference more &amp; more , especially aol , yahoo , hotmail and some of the other free ones .
I work in the world of publishing , specifically classified advertising , and we have a huge amount of fraud attempted with these types of email addresses .
Even gmail is beginning to be suspect .
I understand that everyone wants an email address that is portable .
A service like MobileMe costs less than $ 10 a month and it 's portable and offers other advantages as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that it does make a difference more &amp; more, especially aol, yahoo, hotmail and some of the other free ones.
I work in the world of publishing, specifically classified advertising, and we have a huge amount of fraud attempted with these types of email addresses.
Even gmail is beginning to be suspect.
I understand that everyone wants an email address that is portable.
A service like MobileMe costs less than $10 a month and it's portable and offers other advantages as well.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722344</id>
	<title>Competition</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263221640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I was sifting through several great applications and saw an AOL email address I would question the person's ability to adapt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I was sifting through several great applications and saw an AOL email address I would question the person 's ability to adapt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I was sifting through several great applications and saw an AOL email address I would question the person's ability to adapt.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724340</id>
	<title>If you're applying for an IT job</title>
	<author>docwatson223</author>
	<datestamp>1263231480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>than having AOL as your email could say either 'N00b' or it could say 'retro'.</htmltext>
<tokenext>than having AOL as your email could say either 'N00b ' or it could say 'retro' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>than having AOL as your email could say either 'N00b' or it could say 'retro'.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724014</id>
	<title>Peronsal domain name is negative for me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263229680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the topic of professionalism, I'd put a black tick against having a personal domain name because:<br>1) it's a sign of vanity/ego and as an employer, I'd much prefer intelligence to ego;<br>2) it's contributing to domain name space pollution (I'd lump it in with cyber squatting in terms of benefit vs harm);<br>3) I have no confidence that it actually works because I have no idea who hosts it - if anyone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the topic of professionalism , I 'd put a black tick against having a personal domain name because : 1 ) it 's a sign of vanity/ego and as an employer , I 'd much prefer intelligence to ego ; 2 ) it 's contributing to domain name space pollution ( I 'd lump it in with cyber squatting in terms of benefit vs harm ) ; 3 ) I have no confidence that it actually works because I have no idea who hosts it - if anyone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the topic of professionalism, I'd put a black tick against having a personal domain name because:1) it's a sign of vanity/ego and as an employer, I'd much prefer intelligence to ego;2) it's contributing to domain name space pollution (I'd lump it in with cyber squatting in terms of benefit vs harm);3) I have no confidence that it actually works because I have no idea who hosts it - if anyone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722608</id>
	<title>Of course it does</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1263222840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Having a good email is like having a good phone number. You can't beat it, no matter how good your work is, if you have a hard to remember phone no, then your sh*t out of luck, where as the guy that has 666 3636 will get more business then you only because of the phone number. As for emails, if you have your very own website (which looks just amazing) for what ever<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...a foundation for<br>stray dogs, a portfolio for your websites, a guard on how to work properly, you get emails with that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.com name, and that looks way more professional then your typical aol, or hotmail. If you write a boo, then use the free press email website they give you for your book, activate it, then you will be name@bookpress.com...which is even more professional because it makes you look directly tied into the book press you write for.</p><p>PS- Seriously, is this even worth our time on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having a good email is like having a good phone number .
You ca n't beat it , no matter how good your work is , if you have a hard to remember phone no , then your sh * t out of luck , where as the guy that has 666 3636 will get more business then you only because of the phone number .
As for emails , if you have your very own website ( which looks just amazing ) for what ever ...a foundation forstray dogs , a portfolio for your websites , a guard on how to work properly , you get emails with that .com name , and that looks way more professional then your typical aol , or hotmail .
If you write a boo , then use the free press email website they give you for your book , activate it , then you will be name @ bookpress.com...which is even more professional because it makes you look directly tied into the book press you write for.PS- Seriously , is this even worth our time on / .
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having a good email is like having a good phone number.
You can't beat it, no matter how good your work is, if you have a hard to remember phone no, then your sh*t out of luck, where as the guy that has 666 3636 will get more business then you only because of the phone number.
As for emails, if you have your very own website (which looks just amazing) for what ever ...a foundation forstray dogs, a portfolio for your websites, a guard on how to work properly, you get emails with that .com name, and that looks way more professional then your typical aol, or hotmail.
If you write a boo, then use the free press email website they give you for your book, activate it, then you will be name@bookpress.com...which is even more professional because it makes you look directly tied into the book press you write for.PS- Seriously, is this even worth our time on /.
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721846</id>
	<title>hell no!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263218940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>--<br>
<i>turdeater@sexual-perverts.net</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>-- turdeater @ sexual-perverts.net</tokentext>
<sentencetext>--
turdeater@sexual-perverts.net</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722924</id>
	<title>Absolutely!</title>
	<author>sco\_robinso</author>
	<datestamp>1263224220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't really give a hoot about @aol.com (but it still sounds a little funny). But e-mail, just like any outward facing part of yourself, makes up part of your image. I'm going to be less likely to have a positive first image from someone if I get a resume in my inbox from trew\_gangsta\_47@domain.com or latino\_heat\_69. C'mon, let's me reasonable here folks. It still surprises me the amount of resume emails I see from these kinds of addresses (I'm not joking).
<br> <br>
For nothing other than resumes, you would think people would get a bit more normal gmail or hotmail address.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't really give a hoot about @ aol.com ( but it still sounds a little funny ) .
But e-mail , just like any outward facing part of yourself , makes up part of your image .
I 'm going to be less likely to have a positive first image from someone if I get a resume in my inbox from trew \ _gangsta \ _47 @ domain.com or latino \ _heat \ _69 .
C'mon , let 's me reasonable here folks .
It still surprises me the amount of resume emails I see from these kinds of addresses ( I 'm not joking ) .
For nothing other than resumes , you would think people would get a bit more normal gmail or hotmail address .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't really give a hoot about @aol.com (but it still sounds a little funny).
But e-mail, just like any outward facing part of yourself, makes up part of your image.
I'm going to be less likely to have a positive first image from someone if I get a resume in my inbox from trew\_gangsta\_47@domain.com or latino\_heat\_69.
C'mon, let's me reasonable here folks.
It still surprises me the amount of resume emails I see from these kinds of addresses (I'm not joking).
For nothing other than resumes, you would think people would get a bit more normal gmail or hotmail address.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30728084</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1263202200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I recently got hired at a small company that still had the "Under Construction" logo on their website. I actually had to fight to get them to realize that this is the 21st century equivalent of putting a giant sign in front of your business that says "DON'T TAKE US SERIOUSLY. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING." in bold letters.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I recently got hired at a small company that still had the " Under Construction " logo on their website .
I actually had to fight to get them to realize that this is the 21st century equivalent of putting a giant sign in front of your business that says " DO N'T TAKE US SERIOUSLY .
WE DO N'T KNOW WHAT WE 'RE DOING .
" in bold letters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recently got hired at a small company that still had the "Under Construction" logo on their website.
I actually had to fight to get them to realize that this is the 21st century equivalent of putting a giant sign in front of your business that says "DON'T TAKE US SERIOUSLY.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
" in bold letters.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722220</id>
	<title>Sensibility</title>
	<author>gte881s</author>
	<datestamp>1263220920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The real question that&rsquo;s been asked is whether @aol.com can ever be considered a sensible email address to have today.  It shows an antiquated view of the internet, yes, but it also shows that the person did not sign up for Gmail as their first email address simply because they have to have an address on their resume.  I have seen that many times.

Personally, I prefer my employees to have AOL addresses, check them regularly, and know how to use them rather than having their own domain name that their progeny configured and that they have no idea how to properly use.
If you are filtering based on domain name, you should really ask yourself what you are doing in the position of hiring manager.  If I find someone with the right qualifications, I might ask them about something that stands out as an oddity such as an @aol.com email address, but I would only do so for someone who should definitely have superior email knowledge to compete in their profession.

On a related note, I personally give out an alternate email address on each resume I pass out &ndash; I never use my personal email address for anything business related.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The real question that    s been asked is whether @ aol.com can ever be considered a sensible email address to have today .
It shows an antiquated view of the internet , yes , but it also shows that the person did not sign up for Gmail as their first email address simply because they have to have an address on their resume .
I have seen that many times .
Personally , I prefer my employees to have AOL addresses , check them regularly , and know how to use them rather than having their own domain name that their progeny configured and that they have no idea how to properly use .
If you are filtering based on domain name , you should really ask yourself what you are doing in the position of hiring manager .
If I find someone with the right qualifications , I might ask them about something that stands out as an oddity such as an @ aol.com email address , but I would only do so for someone who should definitely have superior email knowledge to compete in their profession .
On a related note , I personally give out an alternate email address on each resume I pass out    I never use my personal email address for anything business related .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real question that’s been asked is whether @aol.com can ever be considered a sensible email address to have today.
It shows an antiquated view of the internet, yes, but it also shows that the person did not sign up for Gmail as their first email address simply because they have to have an address on their resume.
I have seen that many times.
Personally, I prefer my employees to have AOL addresses, check them regularly, and know how to use them rather than having their own domain name that their progeny configured and that they have no idea how to properly use.
If you are filtering based on domain name, you should really ask yourself what you are doing in the position of hiring manager.
If I find someone with the right qualifications, I might ask them about something that stands out as an oddity such as an @aol.com email address, but I would only do so for someone who should definitely have superior email knowledge to compete in their profession.
On a related note, I personally give out an alternate email address on each resume I pass out – I never use my personal email address for anything business related.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723386</id>
	<title>Professional Societies &amp; E-mail Forwarding</title>
	<author>SirGarlon</author>
	<datestamp>1263226620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if you happen to hang on to your AOL e-mail address because you don't want to change it, there's no need to put it on your resume.</p><p>The professional societies to which I belong -- IEEE and ACM -- as well as my alma mater, offer e-mail forwarding addresses.  So I can set up a respectable-looking e-mail address, such as sirgarlon@alumni.almamater.edu, and have that redirect to the address I actually use.  Who cares if that address is doofus123@aol.com?  My business associates ain't gonna know.</p><p>I would be quite surprised if societies for other professions, such as law or medicine or even journalism, don't have similar services.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if you happen to hang on to your AOL e-mail address because you do n't want to change it , there 's no need to put it on your resume.The professional societies to which I belong -- IEEE and ACM -- as well as my alma mater , offer e-mail forwarding addresses .
So I can set up a respectable-looking e-mail address , such as sirgarlon @ alumni.almamater.edu , and have that redirect to the address I actually use .
Who cares if that address is doofus123 @ aol.com ?
My business associates ai n't gon na know.I would be quite surprised if societies for other professions , such as law or medicine or even journalism , do n't have similar services .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if you happen to hang on to your AOL e-mail address because you don't want to change it, there's no need to put it on your resume.The professional societies to which I belong -- IEEE and ACM -- as well as my alma mater, offer e-mail forwarding addresses.
So I can set up a respectable-looking e-mail address, such as sirgarlon@alumni.almamater.edu, and have that redirect to the address I actually use.
Who cares if that address is doofus123@aol.com?
My business associates ain't gonna know.I would be quite surprised if societies for other professions, such as law or medicine or even journalism, don't have similar services.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724558</id>
	<title>Re:hey!</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1263232320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The font on your comic is slightly difficult to read, BTW. Too thin or something.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The font on your comic is slightly difficult to read , BTW .
Too thin or something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The font on your comic is slightly difficult to read, BTW.
Too thin or something.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30729182</id>
	<title>Re:hey!</title>
	<author>MiniMike</author>
	<datestamp>1263206100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If he provides a relevant XKCD reference with a car analogy in it, a disturbing percentage of Slashdot regulars would need new keyboards/pants/jobs...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If he provides a relevant XKCD reference with a car analogy in it , a disturbing percentage of Slashdot regulars would need new keyboards/pants/jobs.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If he provides a relevant XKCD reference with a car analogy in it, a disturbing percentage of Slashdot regulars would need new keyboards/pants/jobs...</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726306</id>
	<title>Fidonet</title>
	<author>netcruiser</author>
	<datestamp>1263239640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Blah, this new AOL thing, I'll stick to my Fidonet address thanks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Blah , this new AOL thing , I 'll stick to my Fidonet address thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Blah, this new AOL thing, I'll stick to my Fidonet address thanks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725546</id>
	<title>What comes in front of the @ matters more, IMO</title>
	<author>axl917</author>
	<datestamp>1263236100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a hotmail account and have used it for a contact for job applications for years.  But the account predates even Microsoft's acquisition of hotmail, so the username is only 4 letters long.</p><p>Surely that would earn some cool points, like the low digit user IDs do here?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a hotmail account and have used it for a contact for job applications for years .
But the account predates even Microsoft 's acquisition of hotmail , so the username is only 4 letters long.Surely that would earn some cool points , like the low digit user IDs do here ?
: )    </tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a hotmail account and have used it for a contact for job applications for years.
But the account predates even Microsoft's acquisition of hotmail, so the username is only 4 letters long.Surely that would earn some cool points, like the low digit user IDs do here?
:)
   </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30733384</id>
	<title>People aren't reading this carefully enough</title>
	<author>kevinzhengli</author>
	<datestamp>1263231540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No. It does not matter for HER. Especially for HER. Note that she is a [freelance writer.] NOT a IT tech or anything related to technology. She WRITES using a word processor. If you are in a clear mind, I would choose the freelance writer by their writing skills, not their email address. Just read the article guys...</htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
It does not matter for HER .
Especially for HER .
Note that she is a [ freelance writer .
] NOT a IT tech or anything related to technology .
She WRITES using a word processor .
If you are in a clear mind , I would choose the freelance writer by their writing skills , not their email address .
Just read the article guys.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
It does not matter for HER.
Especially for HER.
Note that she is a [freelance writer.
] NOT a IT tech or anything related to technology.
She WRITES using a word processor.
If you are in a clear mind, I would choose the freelance writer by their writing skills, not their email address.
Just read the article guys...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722298</id>
	<title>Not lame, it's antique</title>
	<author>edis</author>
	<datestamp>1263221400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would not want to work for a company, that can't stand that little bit of my creative punk attitude.<br>Therefore there is geoCities address in my CV next to the solid list of known technologies - in fact, it proved to be<br>more persistent, than one of current ISP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would not want to work for a company , that ca n't stand that little bit of my creative punk attitude.Therefore there is geoCities address in my CV next to the solid list of known technologies - in fact , it proved to bemore persistent , than one of current ISP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would not want to work for a company, that can't stand that little bit of my creative punk attitude.Therefore there is geoCities address in my CV next to the solid list of known technologies - in fact, it proved to bemore persistent, than one of current ISP.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30738898</id>
	<title>it absolutely does</title>
	<author>cyberkid81</author>
	<datestamp>1263318300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It absolutely influences my first impression of that person... not necessairly my decision to hire / work with them or not... but definitely my decision.

I work in the IT field (who here doesn't??). If somebody isn't savvy enough to migrate away from AOL, at least on the surface, there is a high chance that they wouldn't benefit my staff.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It absolutely influences my first impression of that person... not necessairly my decision to hire / work with them or not... but definitely my decision .
I work in the IT field ( who here does n't ? ? ) .
If somebody is n't savvy enough to migrate away from AOL , at least on the surface , there is a high chance that they would n't benefit my staff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It absolutely influences my first impression of that person... not necessairly my decision to hire / work with them or not... but definitely my decision.
I work in the IT field (who here doesn't??).
If somebody isn't savvy enough to migrate away from AOL, at least on the surface, there is a high chance that they wouldn't benefit my staff.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723198</id>
	<title>Would you give me a job?</title>
	<author>tronkel</author>
	<datestamp>1263225660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm up for a job.

Email me at:
hacker@thepiratebay.com</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm up for a job .
Email me at : hacker @ thepiratebay.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm up for a job.
Email me at:
hacker@thepiratebay.com</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722440</id>
	<title>Absolutely not.</title>
	<author>jotaeleemeese</author>
	<datestamp>1263222120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why should i care about what service provider they are using?</p><p>What is next people? Are you going to check also if they are using an iPhone or not? The kind of car they drive? The newspapers they read?</p><p>Unless the email address is obviously offensive, I see no reason whatsoever to even be thinking about it.</p><p>Those people saying that IT people should have their own domain, honestly, get a life. Have a domain and associated website if you want to, but it is outlandish to suggest it should be a de facto thing.</p><p>I personally invest enough hours at work doing technology stuff, I have no need or inclination to be running a website at  home. It is called balance, something some people around here should be aiming more for.</p><p>Personal domain a must?! For bunnies sakes<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why should i care about what service provider they are using ? What is next people ?
Are you going to check also if they are using an iPhone or not ?
The kind of car they drive ?
The newspapers they read ? Unless the email address is obviously offensive , I see no reason whatsoever to even be thinking about it.Those people saying that IT people should have their own domain , honestly , get a life .
Have a domain and associated website if you want to , but it is outlandish to suggest it should be a de facto thing.I personally invest enough hours at work doing technology stuff , I have no need or inclination to be running a website at home .
It is called balance , something some people around here should be aiming more for.Personal domain a must ? !
For bunnies sakes ... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why should i care about what service provider they are using?What is next people?
Are you going to check also if they are using an iPhone or not?
The kind of car they drive?
The newspapers they read?Unless the email address is obviously offensive, I see no reason whatsoever to even be thinking about it.Those people saying that IT people should have their own domain, honestly, get a life.
Have a domain and associated website if you want to, but it is outlandish to suggest it should be a de facto thing.I personally invest enough hours at work doing technology stuff, I have no need or inclination to be running a website at  home.
It is called balance, something some people around here should be aiming more for.Personal domain a must?!
For bunnies sakes ....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724390</id>
	<title>Re:Username matters too</title>
	<author>e2d2</author>
	<datestamp>1263231660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of my coworkers uses his enemy.org account on his resume. His reasoning is simple - he's had it for 10 years so why change. It's just funny seeing it on a resume. Such an old domain with plenty of history but alas that meme is now dead and people just give him the eyeball.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of my coworkers uses his enemy.org account on his resume .
His reasoning is simple - he 's had it for 10 years so why change .
It 's just funny seeing it on a resume .
Such an old domain with plenty of history but alas that meme is now dead and people just give him the eyeball .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of my coworkers uses his enemy.org account on his resume.
His reasoning is simple - he's had it for 10 years so why change.
It's just funny seeing it on a resume.
Such an old domain with plenty of history but alas that meme is now dead and people just give him the eyeball.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721952</id>
	<title>Well yeah... I s'pose...</title>
	<author>whoppo</author>
	<datestamp>1263219480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suppose I might lean towards giving my business to a non-AOL.com addressed resource if there was a choice....</p><p>Either way, it's better than something like "whoppo@BigButtSheep.com"   -   oh... wait.... that's my address.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>::sigh::</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suppose I might lean towards giving my business to a non-AOL.com addressed resource if there was a choice....Either way , it 's better than something like " whoppo @ BigButtSheep.com " - oh... wait.... that 's my address .
: : sigh : :</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suppose I might lean towards giving my business to a non-AOL.com addressed resource if there was a choice....Either way, it's better than something like "whoppo@BigButtSheep.com"   -   oh... wait.... that's my address.
::sigh::</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721978</id>
	<title>Yes</title>
	<author>frozentier</author>
	<datestamp>1263219540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would not hire someone with an AOL e-mail address unless it was a job stuffing pillows or working on a production line doing a simple, repetitive job. AOL (in my opinion) was always marketed as "our internet access is so easy, even a caveman can do it". Commercials showed people in their 30's saying "look, now even my elderly parents who can barely figure out how to use a computer can use AOL".</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would not hire someone with an AOL e-mail address unless it was a job stuffing pillows or working on a production line doing a simple , repetitive job .
AOL ( in my opinion ) was always marketed as " our internet access is so easy , even a caveman can do it " .
Commercials showed people in their 30 's saying " look , now even my elderly parents who can barely figure out how to use a computer can use AOL " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would not hire someone with an AOL e-mail address unless it was a job stuffing pillows or working on a production line doing a simple, repetitive job.
AOL (in my opinion) was always marketed as "our internet access is so easy, even a caveman can do it".
Commercials showed people in their 30's saying "look, now even my elderly parents who can barely figure out how to use a computer can use AOL".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30727358</id>
	<title>Yes</title>
	<author>furby076</author>
	<datestamp>1263243060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Get with the times. AOL is spam mail central-  I worry this person will end up giving my email address (unwittingly) to someone else.  If it's a professional company they should have their own domain name (it's not expensive).  If it's someone doing some side work then come on g-mail is a great free option.  There are other good options - but lose AOL, Hotmail, and Yahoo.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Get with the times .
AOL is spam mail central- I worry this person will end up giving my email address ( unwittingly ) to someone else .
If it 's a professional company they should have their own domain name ( it 's not expensive ) .
If it 's someone doing some side work then come on g-mail is a great free option .
There are other good options - but lose AOL , Hotmail , and Yahoo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get with the times.
AOL is spam mail central-  I worry this person will end up giving my email address (unwittingly) to someone else.
If it's a professional company they should have their own domain name (it's not expensive).
If it's someone doing some side work then come on g-mail is a great free option.
There are other good options - but lose AOL, Hotmail, and Yahoo.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722386</id>
	<title>Re:I don't think it will cost you a job.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263221880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even worse are ones with obviously generated names, such as joesmith2938@aol.com.</p><p>To me it just screams that you don't have the wherewithal to make it something more recognizable.   A good email address is like a good URL:  short and easy to remember.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even worse are ones with obviously generated names , such as joesmith2938 @ aol.com.To me it just screams that you do n't have the wherewithal to make it something more recognizable .
A good email address is like a good URL : short and easy to remember .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even worse are ones with obviously generated names, such as joesmith2938@aol.com.To me it just screams that you don't have the wherewithal to make it something more recognizable.
A good email address is like a good URL:  short and easy to remember.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722656</id>
	<title>Developers, OK. Companies, no.</title>
	<author>meiao</author>
	<datestamp>1263223080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wouldn't be bothered that much for a developer. But for a company, that would be a no no.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't be bothered that much for a developer .
But for a company , that would be a no no .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't be bothered that much for a developer.
But for a company, that would be a no no.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30731678</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263218220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>If it's a technology person, that's a red flag. I'd expect them to at least have their own domain name. It doesn't cost THAT much and looks far more professional.</i> </p><p> <i>Heck, even my cat has her own domain name.</i> </p><p>And that about sums up your ability to judge technology people!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's a technology person , that 's a red flag .
I 'd expect them to at least have their own domain name .
It does n't cost THAT much and looks far more professional .
Heck , even my cat has her own domain name .
And that about sums up your ability to judge technology people !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> If it's a technology person, that's a red flag.
I'd expect them to at least have their own domain name.
It doesn't cost THAT much and looks far more professional.
Heck, even my cat has her own domain name.
And that about sums up your ability to judge technology people!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723026</id>
	<title>target audience needs to be studied</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263224820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it's the HR weenie who will read your application, it is better to be "fashionable" and stay with the "current trend".<br>If it's a company that you hope will be your best job, and you get rejected only because of @aol.com, then be happy, it is not your dream job. That company does not know how to hire good people based on facts, and they also dont know HR is screwing up hiring on the basis of email domains. That's a big red flag for a dream job.<br>Otherwise, in general, how can you forget <strong>Murphy's law: "If anything can go wrong, it will !"</strong></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's the HR weenie who will read your application , it is better to be " fashionable " and stay with the " current trend " .If it 's a company that you hope will be your best job , and you get rejected only because of @ aol.com , then be happy , it is not your dream job .
That company does not know how to hire good people based on facts , and they also dont know HR is screwing up hiring on the basis of email domains .
That 's a big red flag for a dream job.Otherwise , in general , how can you forget Murphy 's law : " If anything can go wrong , it will !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's the HR weenie who will read your application, it is better to be "fashionable" and stay with the "current trend".If it's a company that you hope will be your best job, and you get rejected only because of @aol.com, then be happy, it is not your dream job.
That company does not know how to hire good people based on facts, and they also dont know HR is screwing up hiring on the basis of email domains.
That's a big red flag for a dream job.Otherwise, in general, how can you forget Murphy's law: "If anything can go wrong, it will !
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722148</id>
	<title>I would</title>
	<author>jonathancarter</author>
	<datestamp>1263220620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the one free software company I worked for, we had a board member that I had never heard of before that sent a company-wide e-mail from a hotmail address. A lot of us weren't very impressed with that.

IMHO it's best to send work related things from your company's domain name, if it's purely personal I don't think it should matter.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the one free software company I worked for , we had a board member that I had never heard of before that sent a company-wide e-mail from a hotmail address .
A lot of us were n't very impressed with that .
IMHO it 's best to send work related things from your company 's domain name , if it 's purely personal I do n't think it should matter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the one free software company I worked for, we had a board member that I had never heard of before that sent a company-wide e-mail from a hotmail address.
A lot of us weren't very impressed with that.
IMHO it's best to send work related things from your company's domain name, if it's purely personal I don't think it should matter.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721944</id>
	<title>Depends</title>
	<author>GF678</author>
	<datestamp>1263219420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I read a resume from someone with the email jsmith@aol.com, I wouldn't bat an eyelid.</p><p>If I read a resume from someone with the email buttsex69@hotmail.com, I would be concerned as to why they didn't bother to submit their resume with a different email address. It's not hard to make a free one with at least part of your real name, and it shows professionalism and frankly, social understanding.</p><p>I say the last bit before some geek complains that I'm focusing more on "image" instead the applicants credentials and hence ability to do the job. Unfortunately image is an important part of being human, and I didn't make the rules of human nature.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I read a resume from someone with the email jsmith @ aol.com , I would n't bat an eyelid.If I read a resume from someone with the email buttsex69 @ hotmail.com , I would be concerned as to why they did n't bother to submit their resume with a different email address .
It 's not hard to make a free one with at least part of your real name , and it shows professionalism and frankly , social understanding.I say the last bit before some geek complains that I 'm focusing more on " image " instead the applicants credentials and hence ability to do the job .
Unfortunately image is an important part of being human , and I did n't make the rules of human nature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I read a resume from someone with the email jsmith@aol.com, I wouldn't bat an eyelid.If I read a resume from someone with the email buttsex69@hotmail.com, I would be concerned as to why they didn't bother to submit their resume with a different email address.
It's not hard to make a free one with at least part of your real name, and it shows professionalism and frankly, social understanding.I say the last bit before some geek complains that I'm focusing more on "image" instead the applicants credentials and hence ability to do the job.
Unfortunately image is an important part of being human, and I didn't make the rules of human nature.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722672</id>
	<title>Silly Question</title>
	<author>xactuary</author>
	<datestamp>1263223140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Everyone knows it's practically impossible to end an AOL contract.

I tell my clients that they should know that when other people see they're on AOL images of the word "IDIOT" tattooed on your forehead isn't uncommon. On the other hand, quitting AOL is time consuming and shameful. I know someone who had to ultimately claim (falsely) that they had two weeks to live before they could close an AOL account.

Practical advice for non-IT users: An email account that is not tied to your ISP.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone knows it 's practically impossible to end an AOL contract .
I tell my clients that they should know that when other people see they 're on AOL images of the word " IDIOT " tattooed on your forehead is n't uncommon .
On the other hand , quitting AOL is time consuming and shameful .
I know someone who had to ultimately claim ( falsely ) that they had two weeks to live before they could close an AOL account .
Practical advice for non-IT users : An email account that is not tied to your ISP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone knows it's practically impossible to end an AOL contract.
I tell my clients that they should know that when other people see they're on AOL images of the word "IDIOT" tattooed on your forehead isn't uncommon.
On the other hand, quitting AOL is time consuming and shameful.
I know someone who had to ultimately claim (falsely) that they had two weeks to live before they could close an AOL account.
Practical advice for non-IT users: An email account that is not tied to your ISP.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30743938</id>
	<title>Re:It's what comes before the @ that matters</title>
	<author>fishexe</author>
	<datestamp>1263296700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>To sum up; a potential employer is far more likely to be put off by what comes before the @ in your e-mail address than by what comes afterwards.</p></div><p>Tell that to fredjones@cocksuckers.com</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To sum up ; a potential employer is far more likely to be put off by what comes before the @ in your e-mail address than by what comes afterwards.Tell that to fredjones @ cocksuckers.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To sum up; a potential employer is far more likely to be put off by what comes before the @ in your e-mail address than by what comes afterwards.Tell that to fredjones@cocksuckers.com
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722272</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263221280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What do you mean by having your own domain for email?  Something like firstname.lastname@firstnamelastname.com?</p><p>I still use my college email address which we get to keep forever - name@school.edu and I kind of look at it the same as wearing your class ring or something.  Would that be a potential turnoff for an IT related position?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What do you mean by having your own domain for email ?
Something like firstname.lastname @ firstnamelastname.com ? I still use my college email address which we get to keep forever - name @ school.edu and I kind of look at it the same as wearing your class ring or something .
Would that be a potential turnoff for an IT related position ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What do you mean by having your own domain for email?
Something like firstname.lastname@firstnamelastname.com?I still use my college email address which we get to keep forever - name@school.edu and I kind of look at it the same as wearing your class ring or something.
Would that be a potential turnoff for an IT related position?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723122</id>
	<title>Works both ways</title>
	<author>izomiac</author>
	<datestamp>1263225300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Interestingly, I've had non-technical people do odd things if I use my own subdomain e-mail address rather than something like GMail or my school account.  Most often I notice that someone will completely ignore me.  Once I even had a "I don't know who you are, but don't impersonate my students" response from a teacher.  My guess is that such people assume nobody they know is technically oriented enough to figure out how to setup their e-mail a bit differently.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Interestingly , I 've had non-technical people do odd things if I use my own subdomain e-mail address rather than something like GMail or my school account .
Most often I notice that someone will completely ignore me .
Once I even had a " I do n't know who you are , but do n't impersonate my students " response from a teacher .
My guess is that such people assume nobody they know is technically oriented enough to figure out how to setup their e-mail a bit differently .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interestingly, I've had non-technical people do odd things if I use my own subdomain e-mail address rather than something like GMail or my school account.
Most often I notice that someone will completely ignore me.
Once I even had a "I don't know who you are, but don't impersonate my students" response from a teacher.
My guess is that such people assume nobody they know is technically oriented enough to figure out how to setup their e-mail a bit differently.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722812</id>
	<title>Multiple E-mail Addresses</title>
	<author>Stregano</author>
	<datestamp>1263223680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is always a good idea to have multiple e-mails addresses.  My main personal one is g-mail.  I also have one on my own domain for business.  I do have a couple yahoo ones for porn since I don't care how much spam gets flooded into those</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is always a good idea to have multiple e-mails addresses .
My main personal one is g-mail .
I also have one on my own domain for business .
I do have a couple yahoo ones for porn since I do n't care how much spam gets flooded into those</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is always a good idea to have multiple e-mails addresses.
My main personal one is g-mail.
I also have one on my own domain for business.
I do have a couple yahoo ones for porn since I don't care how much spam gets flooded into those</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721902</id>
	<title>I notice it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263219180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I interview software engineers, and I will notice AOL, Yahoo, and Hotmail addresses for sure. I don't believe that these really influence the interview, but I can't help but associate them with some level of technical incompetence (especially AOL). The only free accounts I really expect to see any more are gmail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I interview software engineers , and I will notice AOL , Yahoo , and Hotmail addresses for sure .
I do n't believe that these really influence the interview , but I ca n't help but associate them with some level of technical incompetence ( especially AOL ) .
The only free accounts I really expect to see any more are gmail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I interview software engineers, and I will notice AOL, Yahoo, and Hotmail addresses for sure.
I don't believe that these really influence the interview, but I can't help but associate them with some level of technical incompetence (especially AOL).
The only free accounts I really expect to see any more are gmail.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725702</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>jthill</author>
	<datestamp>1263236760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When it comes right down to it, if you've met the guy, talked to him, and are actually going to use his card, then he's already made an impression on you.  If a corrected typo is going to sway that, you're the lightweight.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When it comes right down to it , if you 've met the guy , talked to him , and are actually going to use his card , then he 's already made an impression on you .
If a corrected typo is going to sway that , you 're the lightweight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When it comes right down to it, if you've met the guy, talked to him, and are actually going to use his card, then he's already made an impression on you.
If a corrected typo is going to sway that, you're the lightweight.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722760</id>
	<title>Re:No biggie, but still</title>
	<author>bickerdyke</author>
	<datestamp>1263223500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My lastname.tld is already taken, you insensitive clod!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My lastname.tld is already taken , you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My lastname.tld is already taken, you insensitive clod!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722258</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263221160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If it's a technology person, that's a red flag.  I'd expect them to at least have their own domain name. It doesn't cost THAT much and looks far more professional.</p><p>Heck, even my cat has her own domain name.</p><p>If it's a non-tech field, meh, I don't care that much. But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name, but still using @comcast or @aol on their business card for email.</p></div><p>Sadly I work for one of these companies, I bought the owner a domain name, web hosting, and so on but he refuses to give up @aol.com</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's a technology person , that 's a red flag .
I 'd expect them to at least have their own domain name .
It does n't cost THAT much and looks far more professional.Heck , even my cat has her own domain name.If it 's a non-tech field , meh , I do n't care that much .
But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name , but still using @ comcast or @ aol on their business card for email.Sadly I work for one of these companies , I bought the owner a domain name , web hosting , and so on but he refuses to give up @ aol.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's a technology person, that's a red flag.
I'd expect them to at least have their own domain name.
It doesn't cost THAT much and looks far more professional.Heck, even my cat has her own domain name.If it's a non-tech field, meh, I don't care that much.
But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name, but still using @comcast or @aol on their business card for email.Sadly I work for one of these companies, I bought the owner a domain name, web hosting, and so on but he refuses to give up @aol.com
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724674</id>
	<title>Re:hey!</title>
	<author>Slightly Askew</author>
	<datestamp>1263232860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sure, here you go:  <a href="http://xkcd.com/145/" title="xkcd.com">http://xkcd.com/145/</a> [xkcd.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , here you go : http : //xkcd.com/145/ [ xkcd.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, here you go:  http://xkcd.com/145/ [xkcd.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721960</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263219480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Given the cost-cutting trend we've seen in IT over the past decade, would the image of someone that spends additional money/time on unnecessary technology be appealing?

I'm just playing devil's advocate here as I don't have a preference one way or another.  That said, it could be that there are extremes in both directions and it's safest to sit in the middle.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Given the cost-cutting trend we 've seen in IT over the past decade , would the image of someone that spends additional money/time on unnecessary technology be appealing ?
I 'm just playing devil 's advocate here as I do n't have a preference one way or another .
That said , it could be that there are extremes in both directions and it 's safest to sit in the middle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given the cost-cutting trend we've seen in IT over the past decade, would the image of someone that spends additional money/time on unnecessary technology be appealing?
I'm just playing devil's advocate here as I don't have a preference one way or another.
That said, it could be that there are extremes in both directions and it's safest to sit in the middle.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721856</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723990</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1263229560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>what is the point of your own domain name?</p></div><p>A domain name is the thing you type into your browser to find a website, or the bit after the @ in an email address.  It generally identifies an organization.</p><p>For example, fred@example.com is looking for the user "fred" at the organization "example.com"</p><p>In the case of a private individual, there really isn't a whole lot of <i>need</i> for your own domain name.  I have my family's name registered...  Run a blog there, and a photo gallery, and email for family members...  But I'm a geek.  Most folks do just fine with an AOL or HOTMAIL or GMAIL address.  And that's fine if you're a private individual communicating with your friends and family.</p><p>If you're a business however...  It's part of how you present your business to the rest of the world.  Much like the signage you hang on your building and the ads you run.</p><p>Say I'm shopping around for an electrician...  One of them suggests I contact "ElectroJoe123@aol.com" and the other suggests I can email "j.smith@electricians.com" - one of those looks far more professional than the other.  It's kind of like having a plumber show up to your house in a clean uniform and all the tools he needs, with an air of professionalism and competence.  Or having a plumber show up in ripped jeans, covered with grime, constantly muttering to himself and running back to the shop for parts that he forgot.</p><p>Of course there's no guarantee that one is better than the other...  But when you're shopping around for somebody to hire, appearances matter.  All things being equal, I'll hire the professional-looking guy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>what is the point of your own domain name ? A domain name is the thing you type into your browser to find a website , or the bit after the @ in an email address .
It generally identifies an organization.For example , fred @ example.com is looking for the user " fred " at the organization " example.com " In the case of a private individual , there really is n't a whole lot of need for your own domain name .
I have my family 's name registered... Run a blog there , and a photo gallery , and email for family members... But I 'm a geek .
Most folks do just fine with an AOL or HOTMAIL or GMAIL address .
And that 's fine if you 're a private individual communicating with your friends and family.If you 're a business however... It 's part of how you present your business to the rest of the world .
Much like the signage you hang on your building and the ads you run.Say I 'm shopping around for an electrician... One of them suggests I contact " ElectroJoe123 @ aol.com " and the other suggests I can email " j.smith @ electricians.com " - one of those looks far more professional than the other .
It 's kind of like having a plumber show up to your house in a clean uniform and all the tools he needs , with an air of professionalism and competence .
Or having a plumber show up in ripped jeans , covered with grime , constantly muttering to himself and running back to the shop for parts that he forgot.Of course there 's no guarantee that one is better than the other... But when you 're shopping around for somebody to hire , appearances matter .
All things being equal , I 'll hire the professional-looking guy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what is the point of your own domain name?A domain name is the thing you type into your browser to find a website, or the bit after the @ in an email address.
It generally identifies an organization.For example, fred@example.com is looking for the user "fred" at the organization "example.com"In the case of a private individual, there really isn't a whole lot of need for your own domain name.
I have my family's name registered...  Run a blog there, and a photo gallery, and email for family members...  But I'm a geek.
Most folks do just fine with an AOL or HOTMAIL or GMAIL address.
And that's fine if you're a private individual communicating with your friends and family.If you're a business however...  It's part of how you present your business to the rest of the world.
Much like the signage you hang on your building and the ads you run.Say I'm shopping around for an electrician...  One of them suggests I contact "ElectroJoe123@aol.com" and the other suggests I can email "j.smith@electricians.com" - one of those looks far more professional than the other.
It's kind of like having a plumber show up to your house in a clean uniform and all the tools he needs, with an air of professionalism and competence.
Or having a plumber show up in ripped jeans, covered with grime, constantly muttering to himself and running back to the shop for parts that he forgot.Of course there's no guarantee that one is better than the other...  But when you're shopping around for somebody to hire, appearances matter.
All things being equal, I'll hire the professional-looking guy.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722122</id>
	<title>Username matters too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263220320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I'm looking at a resume, I don't want to see RoxxyFoxxy@somewhere.com. Or something completely weird and difficult to decipher and type out. It's not hard to maintain a FMLastname or Firstname.Lastname@gmail.com and direct it to an address that expresses your individuality or whatnot.</p><p>Basically, I'm looking for professionalism. That means a resume with no typos or obvious errors/exaggerations ("Proficient in C, C+, and C++" is a gem that springs to mind), and appropriate attire at the interview. Having some kind of in-joke or bizarre reference or obscure handle as your username on the resume is kind of like wearing a tshirt with a weird slogan on it to the interview, although certainly not so severe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I 'm looking at a resume , I do n't want to see RoxxyFoxxy @ somewhere.com .
Or something completely weird and difficult to decipher and type out .
It 's not hard to maintain a FMLastname or Firstname.Lastname @ gmail.com and direct it to an address that expresses your individuality or whatnot.Basically , I 'm looking for professionalism .
That means a resume with no typos or obvious errors/exaggerations ( " Proficient in C , C + , and C + + " is a gem that springs to mind ) , and appropriate attire at the interview .
Having some kind of in-joke or bizarre reference or obscure handle as your username on the resume is kind of like wearing a tshirt with a weird slogan on it to the interview , although certainly not so severe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I'm looking at a resume, I don't want to see RoxxyFoxxy@somewhere.com.
Or something completely weird and difficult to decipher and type out.
It's not hard to maintain a FMLastname or Firstname.Lastname@gmail.com and direct it to an address that expresses your individuality or whatnot.Basically, I'm looking for professionalism.
That means a resume with no typos or obvious errors/exaggerations ("Proficient in C, C+, and C++" is a gem that springs to mind), and appropriate attire at the interview.
Having some kind of in-joke or bizarre reference or obscure handle as your username on the resume is kind of like wearing a tshirt with a weird slogan on it to the interview, although certainly not so severe.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722804</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263223620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>i can go one better - an attorney client has on his business cards name@laywers.com.  except that the correct domain is lawyer.com.  so every time he gives out a card he takes a pen and scratches out the 's'.  yeah, that looks professional.</p></div><p>I agree it seems unprofessional to misspell domain names. Btw, please refresh my memory - what exactly is a laywer?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>i can go one better - an attorney client has on his business cards name @ laywers.com .
except that the correct domain is lawyer.com .
so every time he gives out a card he takes a pen and scratches out the 's' .
yeah , that looks professional.I agree it seems unprofessional to misspell domain names .
Btw , please refresh my memory - what exactly is a laywer ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i can go one better - an attorney client has on his business cards name@laywers.com.
except that the correct domain is lawyer.com.
so every time he gives out a card he takes a pen and scratches out the 's'.
yeah, that looks professional.I agree it seems unprofessional to misspell domain names.
Btw, please refresh my memory - what exactly is a laywer?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724098</id>
	<title>So true</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263230040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would not make it the critical thing for a hirering, but if someone has a hotmail adress, I'd put that person rather low on my list of possible picks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would not make it the critical thing for a hirering , but if someone has a hotmail adress , I 'd put that person rather low on my list of possible picks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would not make it the critical thing for a hirering, but if someone has a hotmail adress, I'd put that person rather low on my list of possible picks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726924</id>
	<title>Get an alumni email account</title>
	<author>bloodSausage</author>
	<datestamp>1263241860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rightly or wrongly, everything in your resume, including your email address, will be judged by someone.  If you don't want to spring for your own domain, and you're not embarrassed by the school you attended (it's already in your resume, right?), you can probably get a free alumni email forwarding account from your alma mater.  The school has an interest in keeping in touch with you (soliciting donations from alumni), so I don't expect the account to ever expire, like other free accounts might.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rightly or wrongly , everything in your resume , including your email address , will be judged by someone .
If you do n't want to spring for your own domain , and you 're not embarrassed by the school you attended ( it 's already in your resume , right ?
) , you can probably get a free alumni email forwarding account from your alma mater .
The school has an interest in keeping in touch with you ( soliciting donations from alumni ) , so I do n't expect the account to ever expire , like other free accounts might .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rightly or wrongly, everything in your resume, including your email address, will be judged by someone.
If you don't want to spring for your own domain, and you're not embarrassed by the school you attended (it's already in your resume, right?
), you can probably get a free alumni email forwarding account from your alma mater.
The school has an interest in keeping in touch with you (soliciting donations from alumni), so I don't expect the account to ever expire, like other free accounts might.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723034</id>
	<title>Re:I don't think it will cost you a job.</title>
	<author>pushf popf</author>
	<datestamp>1263224880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><strong>but it sure will make you look a bit dopey if you're still rolling with hotmail or aol.
I see usa.net is still around too, I had one of those a long long time ago too.

Now if you're not rolling your own domain, gmail or at least a respectable ISP in the very least your co-workers will give you a bit of shit.
</strong> <br> <br>

Even though I don't need to apply for jobs anymore, I wish I had my original email address from "The Source".</htmltext>
<tokenext>but it sure will make you look a bit dopey if you 're still rolling with hotmail or aol .
I see usa.net is still around too , I had one of those a long long time ago too .
Now if you 're not rolling your own domain , gmail or at least a respectable ISP in the very least your co-workers will give you a bit of shit .
Even though I do n't need to apply for jobs anymore , I wish I had my original email address from " The Source " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but it sure will make you look a bit dopey if you're still rolling with hotmail or aol.
I see usa.net is still around too, I had one of those a long long time ago too.
Now if you're not rolling your own domain, gmail or at least a respectable ISP in the very least your co-workers will give you a bit of shit.
Even though I don't need to apply for jobs anymore, I wish I had my original email address from "The Source".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30729708</id>
	<title>Yes... sort of.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263208140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a systems administrator, if I'm reviewing candidates for systems administration work, hotmail is an instant red mark, as are any other web mail providers who regularly show up in the RBLs.</p><p>If they claim expertise with email system setup and deployment and they have a private domain, I will happily check where their MXes are pointing and look for obvious third party providers.</p><p>I won't completely reject somebody off the bat based on their email address, but if it breaks the credibility of the claims of their experience or CV, I will hold it against them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a systems administrator , if I 'm reviewing candidates for systems administration work , hotmail is an instant red mark , as are any other web mail providers who regularly show up in the RBLs.If they claim expertise with email system setup and deployment and they have a private domain , I will happily check where their MXes are pointing and look for obvious third party providers.I wo n't completely reject somebody off the bat based on their email address , but if it breaks the credibility of the claims of their experience or CV , I will hold it against them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a systems administrator, if I'm reviewing candidates for systems administration work, hotmail is an instant red mark, as are any other web mail providers who regularly show up in the RBLs.If they claim expertise with email system setup and deployment and they have a private domain, I will happily check where their MXes are pointing and look for obvious third party providers.I won't completely reject somebody off the bat based on their email address, but if it breaks the credibility of the claims of their experience or CV, I will hold it against them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725252</id>
	<title>"Image" is for weenies.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263234900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I were the kind of person that respects publicists, I guess an uncool email domain might affect my hiring.  So please, all of you out there, make your hiring decisions based on stuff like that.  I'll make mine based on experience and skills.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I were the kind of person that respects publicists , I guess an uncool email domain might affect my hiring .
So please , all of you out there , make your hiring decisions based on stuff like that .
I 'll make mine based on experience and skills .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I were the kind of person that respects publicists, I guess an uncool email domain might affect my hiring.
So please, all of you out there, make your hiring decisions based on stuff like that.
I'll make mine based on experience and skills.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30728234</id>
	<title>They have their uses</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263202740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone who judges you on your email address is an idiot you can easily afford to ignore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone who judges you on your email address is an idiot you can easily afford to ignore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone who judges you on your email address is an idiot you can easily afford to ignore.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723446</id>
	<title>Re:I once had a guy bring it up in an interview</title>
	<author>Dr. Evil</author>
	<datestamp>1263226980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At this point, I wouldn't give that kind of email address a second thought when hiring somebody.

</p><p>It's better IMHO than the twerps who set up their own domains because they're so elite, then the mail bounces, doesn't resolve in reverse, doesn't pass SPF headers, lose my email in spam assassin rules etc, etc.

</p><p>An AOL address is pragmatic and it means that you've been that way for a long, long time.  Unless you're a complete boob, you probably not only know how to set up a mail server, but you know when to outsource.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At this point , I would n't give that kind of email address a second thought when hiring somebody .
It 's better IMHO than the twerps who set up their own domains because they 're so elite , then the mail bounces , does n't resolve in reverse , does n't pass SPF headers , lose my email in spam assassin rules etc , etc .
An AOL address is pragmatic and it means that you 've been that way for a long , long time .
Unless you 're a complete boob , you probably not only know how to set up a mail server , but you know when to outsource .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At this point, I wouldn't give that kind of email address a second thought when hiring somebody.
It's better IMHO than the twerps who set up their own domains because they're so elite, then the mail bounces, doesn't resolve in reverse, doesn't pass SPF headers, lose my email in spam assassin rules etc, etc.
An AOL address is pragmatic and it means that you've been that way for a long, long time.
Unless you're a complete boob, you probably not only know how to set up a mail server, but you know when to outsource.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30727324</id>
	<title>Re:/dev/null</title>
	<author>Slur</author>
	<datestamp>1263243000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe it's wrong, but yep, I agree. The domains that set off my lamer detector are hotmail.com, yahoo.com, aol.com, and (even though i have these) mac.com and me.com. To some extent I take gmail.com email accounts a little less seriously. And I definitely take any email address with numbers in it with a grain of salt. With apologies to joesmith622@yahoo.com, it just shows a lack of imagination and a tendency to take whatever is offered. Plus it looks like a typical spam source address.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe it 's wrong , but yep , I agree .
The domains that set off my lamer detector are hotmail.com , yahoo.com , aol.com , and ( even though i have these ) mac.com and me.com .
To some extent I take gmail.com email accounts a little less seriously .
And I definitely take any email address with numbers in it with a grain of salt .
With apologies to joesmith622 @ yahoo.com , it just shows a lack of imagination and a tendency to take whatever is offered .
Plus it looks like a typical spam source address .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe it's wrong, but yep, I agree.
The domains that set off my lamer detector are hotmail.com, yahoo.com, aol.com, and (even though i have these) mac.com and me.com.
To some extent I take gmail.com email accounts a little less seriously.
And I definitely take any email address with numbers in it with a grain of salt.
With apologies to joesmith622@yahoo.com, it just shows a lack of imagination and a tendency to take whatever is offered.
Plus it looks like a typical spam source address.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722180</id>
	<title>Something, Something, Something, Dark Side</title>
	<author>justinmikehunt</author>
	<datestamp>1263220740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll give you my email address. It's hansolo64@compuserve.com. Yes, CompuServe.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll give you my email address .
It 's hansolo64 @ compuserve.com .
Yes , CompuServe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll give you my email address.
It's hansolo64@compuserve.com.
Yes, CompuServe.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724300</id>
	<title>Re:nicknames of the upmodded comments so far:</title>
	<author>khallow</author>
	<datestamp>1263231180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OTOH, most of us probably don't use our Slashdot nicks for business purposes. I doubt "Bad Analogy Guy" does. That'd be like a medical equipment salesman in a hearse.</htmltext>
<tokenext>OTOH , most of us probably do n't use our Slashdot nicks for business purposes .
I doubt " Bad Analogy Guy " does .
That 'd be like a medical equipment salesman in a hearse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OTOH, most of us probably don't use our Slashdot nicks for business purposes.
I doubt "Bad Analogy Guy" does.
That'd be like a medical equipment salesman in a hearse.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722026</id>
	<title>Nah</title>
	<author>Bigbutt</author>
	<datestamp>1263219840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not in HR (I am in IT though) so we may not even get that far. HR, then our supervisor has to vet the candidate before he or she even gets to us. Now we might rib the candidate prior to meeting them and then over it in the post interview chat depending on how it goes.</p><p>I'm more interested in work history prior to the interview and then their replies during the interview. We've had some interesting answers to questions<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>[John]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not in HR ( I am in IT though ) so we may not even get that far .
HR , then our supervisor has to vet the candidate before he or she even gets to us .
Now we might rib the candidate prior to meeting them and then over it in the post interview chat depending on how it goes.I 'm more interested in work history prior to the interview and then their replies during the interview .
We 've had some interesting answers to questions : ) [ John ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not in HR (I am in IT though) so we may not even get that far.
HR, then our supervisor has to vet the candidate before he or she even gets to us.
Now we might rib the candidate prior to meeting them and then over it in the post interview chat depending on how it goes.I'm more interested in work history prior to the interview and then their replies during the interview.
We've had some interesting answers to questions :)[John]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722076</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>54mc</author>
	<datestamp>1263220080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the tech field, it can help greatly to have an email address at your own domain like "john@doe.com" or "johndoe@johndoe.com" If nothing else, it shows you have some kind of technical know-how.

Plus, it's pretty hard to attach a stigma to something like that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the tech field , it can help greatly to have an email address at your own domain like " john @ doe.com " or " johndoe @ johndoe.com " If nothing else , it shows you have some kind of technical know-how .
Plus , it 's pretty hard to attach a stigma to something like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the tech field, it can help greatly to have an email address at your own domain like "john@doe.com" or "johndoe@johndoe.com" If nothing else, it shows you have some kind of technical know-how.
Plus, it's pretty hard to attach a stigma to something like that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721926</id>
	<title>Yes it would</title>
	<author>nebular</author>
	<datestamp>1263219360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes,</p><p>It takes all of 2 minutes to create a gmail account and tht account can forward all of your emails to whatever email account you normally use.</p><p>Much like the clothes you wear to an interview and the layout of your resume you can choose how you want your email address to look.</p><p>And heck to be honest an easy to remember phone # will stand out just the little bit more than a tough one.</p><p>it's human nature</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes,It takes all of 2 minutes to create a gmail account and tht account can forward all of your emails to whatever email account you normally use.Much like the clothes you wear to an interview and the layout of your resume you can choose how you want your email address to look.And heck to be honest an easy to remember phone # will stand out just the little bit more than a tough one.it 's human nature</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes,It takes all of 2 minutes to create a gmail account and tht account can forward all of your emails to whatever email account you normally use.Much like the clothes you wear to an interview and the layout of your resume you can choose how you want your email address to look.And heck to be honest an easy to remember phone # will stand out just the little bit more than a tough one.it's human nature</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30728930</id>
	<title>Re:nicknames of the upmodded comments so far:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263205200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, I agree but here's the deal: In many large organizations the "mediocre" people you're talking about who do initial application reviews work in the HR department, not in working level management.  If you get the job you will be working with someone else in another department and will probably never deal with that person again.</p><p>The bottom line is you don't know what wickets your application has to pass through to get the job.  Some of those "wickets" might be morons.  The interview process will tell you more about the kind of people you'll be working with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I agree but here 's the deal : In many large organizations the " mediocre " people you 're talking about who do initial application reviews work in the HR department , not in working level management .
If you get the job you will be working with someone else in another department and will probably never deal with that person again.The bottom line is you do n't know what wickets your application has to pass through to get the job .
Some of those " wickets " might be morons .
The interview process will tell you more about the kind of people you 'll be working with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I agree but here's the deal: In many large organizations the "mediocre" people you're talking about who do initial application reviews work in the HR department, not in working level management.
If you get the job you will be working with someone else in another department and will probably never deal with that person again.The bottom line is you don't know what wickets your application has to pass through to get the job.
Some of those "wickets" might be morons.
The interview process will tell you more about the kind of people you'll be working with.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723756</id>
	<title>I'll answer with a question....</title>
	<author>g0bshiTe</author>
	<datestamp>1263228420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"Good question. Would an AOL e-mail address &mdash; or another 'toxic' e-mail address &mdash; influence your decision to hire someone?"</p></div></blockquote><p>Would you hire someone for your IT deptartment if their email address were from an AOL account?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Good question .
Would an AOL e-mail address    or another 'toxic ' e-mail address    influence your decision to hire someone ?
" Would you hire someone for your IT deptartment if their email address were from an AOL account ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Good question.
Would an AOL e-mail address — or another 'toxic' e-mail address — influence your decision to hire someone?
"Would you hire someone for your IT deptartment if their email address were from an AOL account?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30731382</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263216360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, <b>laywers</b>.com probably wouldn't go over well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , laywers.com probably would n't go over well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, laywers.com probably wouldn't go over well.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30734526</id>
	<title>It like lame dress</title>
	<author>xsuchy</author>
	<datestamp>1263289500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Would you dress on party in your oldest dress?<br>Would you come to interview in your jogging clothing?</p><p>It is definitely possible but most people will have prejudice against you. Unless you are famous, which is always reason to be weird.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would you dress on party in your oldest dress ? Would you come to interview in your jogging clothing ? It is definitely possible but most people will have prejudice against you .
Unless you are famous , which is always reason to be weird .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would you dress on party in your oldest dress?Would you come to interview in your jogging clothing?It is definitely possible but most people will have prejudice against you.
Unless you are famous, which is always reason to be weird.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30729920</id>
	<title>Re:No biggie, but still</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263208860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I like it when people have a firstname@lastname.tld account.</p></div><p>I happen to know some hiring managers who specifically dislike this format of e-mail address, for whatever reason. Some people dislike aol, some dislike yahoo, some even dislike gmail. One will always find an irrational prejudice somewhere.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I like it when people have a firstname @ lastname.tld account.I happen to know some hiring managers who specifically dislike this format of e-mail address , for whatever reason .
Some people dislike aol , some dislike yahoo , some even dislike gmail .
One will always find an irrational prejudice somewhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like it when people have a firstname@lastname.tld account.I happen to know some hiring managers who specifically dislike this format of e-mail address, for whatever reason.
Some people dislike aol, some dislike yahoo, some even dislike gmail.
One will always find an irrational prejudice somewhere.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30729094</id>
	<title>FWIW</title>
	<author>taucross</author>
	<datestamp>1263205860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In Australia, welfare recipients need to show they are looking for work as part of the "Newstart scheme". My friend, not very interested in actually getting a job, would send his resume to potential employers with his email "the\_lord\_of\_murder@[isp].com". It had the intended effect, every time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In Australia , welfare recipients need to show they are looking for work as part of the " Newstart scheme " .
My friend , not very interested in actually getting a job , would send his resume to potential employers with his email " the \ _lord \ _of \ _murder @ [ isp ] .com " .
It had the intended effect , every time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Australia, welfare recipients need to show they are looking for work as part of the "Newstart scheme".
My friend, not very interested in actually getting a job, would send his resume to potential employers with his email "the\_lord\_of\_murder@[isp].com".
It had the intended effect, every time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722042</id>
	<title>Yes, it matters</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263219900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why would you use an e-mail address you don't own?  A<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.com with e-mail/web hosting is peanuts these days.  @aol.com or @gmail.com look bad because (1) you are too lazy to get your own domain name and (2) you run the risk of losing it at any time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would you use an e-mail address you do n't own ?
A .com with e-mail/web hosting is peanuts these days .
@ aol.com or @ gmail.com look bad because ( 1 ) you are too lazy to get your own domain name and ( 2 ) you run the risk of losing it at any time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would you use an e-mail address you don't own?
A .com with e-mail/web hosting is peanuts these days.
@aol.com or @gmail.com look bad because (1) you are too lazy to get your own domain name and (2) you run the risk of losing it at any time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722570</id>
	<title>Rather I would be concerned ...</title>
	<author>foobsr</author>
	<datestamp>1263222660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...  that a websearch <a href="http://www.google.com/#hl=en&amp;ei=2i9LS\_WrM9H6\_AatrsSUAg&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=spell&amp;resnum=0&amp;ct=result&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=0CA0QBSgA&amp;q=\%22Nancy+E.+Anderson\%22&amp;spell=1&amp;fp=4b0e053116aeea03" title="google.com">"Nancy E. Anderson"</a> [google.com] does not turn up much useful information, even if supplemented with <a href="http://www.google.com/#hl=en&amp;q=\%22Nancy+E.+Anderson\%22+freelance&amp;aq=f&amp;aqi=&amp;oq=&amp;fp=4b0e053116aeea03" title="google.com">one</a> [google.com] or <a href="http://www.google.com/#hl=en&amp;q=\%22Nancy+E.+Anderson\%22+writer&amp;aq=f&amp;aqi=&amp;oq=&amp;fp=4b0e053116aeea03" title="google.com">another</a> [google.com] keyword/hint.
<br> <br>
CC</htmltext>
<tokenext>... that a websearch " Nancy E. Anderson " [ google.com ] does not turn up much useful information , even if supplemented with one [ google.com ] or another [ google.com ] keyword/hint .
CC</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...  that a websearch "Nancy E. Anderson" [google.com] does not turn up much useful information, even if supplemented with one [google.com] or another [google.com] keyword/hint.
CC</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722216</id>
	<title>nicknames of the upmodded comments so far:</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1263220920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"weave"<br>there isn't a joke that hasn't been made about girls with weaves</p><p>"RogueyWon"<br>you're roguey? is that like sarah palin being mavericky?</p><p>"thepainguy"<br>hello mr. S&amp;M. go spank behinds somewhere else</p><p>"Southpaw018"<br>ah yes, the proud left handed type, always announcing his left handed status without prompting. almost as annoying as the proud "i don't watch tv" type so damn proud of what nobody cares about</p><p>"91degrees"<br>makes me think of that lame pop band 98 degrees</p><p>"Pharmboy"<br>do you spam c1alis emails? or do sell adderall on your local college campus?</p><p>"MistrBlank"<br>i'm sorry for your reproductive issues. in vitro fertilization offers wonderful outcomes nowadays</p><p>point being: prejudice is ignorant, all-pervasive, and easy. the idea is not that you should conform your email/ nickname to such small minds, but that if you lose a contact, or a job, due to such small minds, you should consider yourself LUCKY for the loss of contact with such mediocre people</p><p>i know well-respected medical doctors with aol addresses from the 1990s. because they don't have time to play mindless little image games like this one. this whole issue is stupid</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" weave " there is n't a joke that has n't been made about girls with weaves " RogueyWon " you 're roguey ?
is that like sarah palin being mavericky ?
" thepainguy " hello mr. S&amp;M. go spank behinds somewhere else " Southpaw018 " ah yes , the proud left handed type , always announcing his left handed status without prompting .
almost as annoying as the proud " i do n't watch tv " type so damn proud of what nobody cares about " 91degrees " makes me think of that lame pop band 98 degrees " Pharmboy " do you spam c1alis emails ?
or do sell adderall on your local college campus ?
" MistrBlank " i 'm sorry for your reproductive issues .
in vitro fertilization offers wonderful outcomes nowadayspoint being : prejudice is ignorant , all-pervasive , and easy .
the idea is not that you should conform your email/ nickname to such small minds , but that if you lose a contact , or a job , due to such small minds , you should consider yourself LUCKY for the loss of contact with such mediocre peoplei know well-respected medical doctors with aol addresses from the 1990s .
because they do n't have time to play mindless little image games like this one .
this whole issue is stupid</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"weave"there isn't a joke that hasn't been made about girls with weaves"RogueyWon"you're roguey?
is that like sarah palin being mavericky?
"thepainguy"hello mr. S&amp;M. go spank behinds somewhere else"Southpaw018"ah yes, the proud left handed type, always announcing his left handed status without prompting.
almost as annoying as the proud "i don't watch tv" type so damn proud of what nobody cares about"91degrees"makes me think of that lame pop band 98 degrees"Pharmboy"do you spam c1alis emails?
or do sell adderall on your local college campus?
"MistrBlank"i'm sorry for your reproductive issues.
in vitro fertilization offers wonderful outcomes nowadayspoint being: prejudice is ignorant, all-pervasive, and easy.
the idea is not that you should conform your email/ nickname to such small minds, but that if you lose a contact, or a job, due to such small minds, you should consider yourself LUCKY for the loss of contact with such mediocre peoplei know well-respected medical doctors with aol addresses from the 1990s.
because they don't have time to play mindless little image games like this one.
this whole issue is stupid</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725160</id>
	<title>Yes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263234600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As AOL has always been a big rip-off, yes using an AOL email address is not a good idea.  Email addresses like party247365@****.com shouls also be avoided for obvious reasons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As AOL has always been a big rip-off , yes using an AOL email address is not a good idea .
Email addresses like party247365 @ * * * * .com shouls also be avoided for obvious reasons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As AOL has always been a big rip-off, yes using an AOL email address is not a good idea.
Email addresses like party247365@****.com shouls also be avoided for obvious reasons.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722130</id>
	<title>Same as what you wear</title>
	<author>Thyamine</author>
	<datestamp>1263220380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think it's similar to being dressed poorly for an interview.  You may completely know your field, but if you show up looking foolish or inappropriate, then people will judge you.  You may think that's unfair or not right, but people will do it and this is something very similar.  As everyone else is pointing out, how long does it take to sign up for your own domain or use something at least current.  AOL for an IT position?  You don't have broadband?  You don't have access to GMail?  You can't sign up for your own site?  Perhaps for a non IT field it's not as big a deal.  It's the same as showing up with black jeans instead of slacks/khakis on.  You couldn't spend $10 and some time to run out and buy something nice for the interview?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's similar to being dressed poorly for an interview .
You may completely know your field , but if you show up looking foolish or inappropriate , then people will judge you .
You may think that 's unfair or not right , but people will do it and this is something very similar .
As everyone else is pointing out , how long does it take to sign up for your own domain or use something at least current .
AOL for an IT position ?
You do n't have broadband ?
You do n't have access to GMail ?
You ca n't sign up for your own site ?
Perhaps for a non IT field it 's not as big a deal .
It 's the same as showing up with black jeans instead of slacks/khakis on .
You could n't spend $ 10 and some time to run out and buy something nice for the interview ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's similar to being dressed poorly for an interview.
You may completely know your field, but if you show up looking foolish or inappropriate, then people will judge you.
You may think that's unfair or not right, but people will do it and this is something very similar.
As everyone else is pointing out, how long does it take to sign up for your own domain or use something at least current.
AOL for an IT position?
You don't have broadband?
You don't have access to GMail?
You can't sign up for your own site?
Perhaps for a non IT field it's not as big a deal.
It's the same as showing up with black jeans instead of slacks/khakis on.
You couldn't spend $10 and some time to run out and buy something nice for the interview?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722556</id>
	<title>Play it safe.</title>
	<author>Skythe</author>
	<datestamp>1263222600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>People will judge based on email address. I have a firstname.lastname@domain.com (hosted by Google Apps) which forwards to personaladdresswhichisntsoprofessional@gmail.com (it's nothing bad, just a bit kooky). Know which one I submit for anything that might be deemed semi-professional? Yep.
<br>
<br>
It's not even that hard, Even firstname.lastname@commonemailprovider.com or firstinitial.lastname@isp.com is okay. Just set up a forward. If your provider doesn't allow you to forward, make a new account with one that does and forward it to your personal address.</htmltext>
<tokenext>People will judge based on email address .
I have a firstname.lastname @ domain.com ( hosted by Google Apps ) which forwards to personaladdresswhichisntsoprofessional @ gmail.com ( it 's nothing bad , just a bit kooky ) .
Know which one I submit for anything that might be deemed semi-professional ?
Yep . It 's not even that hard , Even firstname.lastname @ commonemailprovider.com or firstinitial.lastname @ isp.com is okay .
Just set up a forward .
If your provider does n't allow you to forward , make a new account with one that does and forward it to your personal address .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People will judge based on email address.
I have a firstname.lastname@domain.com (hosted by Google Apps) which forwards to personaladdresswhichisntsoprofessional@gmail.com (it's nothing bad, just a bit kooky).
Know which one I submit for anything that might be deemed semi-professional?
Yep.


It's not even that hard, Even firstname.lastname@commonemailprovider.com or firstinitial.lastname@isp.com is okay.
Just set up a forward.
If your provider doesn't allow you to forward, make a new account with one that does and forward it to your personal address.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30729244</id>
	<title>Re:hell no!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263206340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>funniest first post EVA!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) thanks</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>funniest first post EVA !
: ) thanks</tokentext>
<sentencetext>funniest first post EVA!
:) thanks</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721846</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30738522</id>
	<title>Yes.</title>
	<author>h5inz</author>
	<datestamp>1263317100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>According to Slashdot comments,  this kind of e-mail addresses help to keep stupid people away. If you are applying to a software developer job for example, then it is your code that has to look nice,  anything else is more or less irrelevant. If you somehow manage to imply that registering your own domain is a big skill, you end up in thedailywtf.com and not on a job.</htmltext>
<tokenext>According to Slashdot comments , this kind of e-mail addresses help to keep stupid people away .
If you are applying to a software developer job for example , then it is your code that has to look nice , anything else is more or less irrelevant .
If you somehow manage to imply that registering your own domain is a big skill , you end up in thedailywtf.com and not on a job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to Slashdot comments,  this kind of e-mail addresses help to keep stupid people away.
If you are applying to a software developer job for example, then it is your code that has to look nice,  anything else is more or less irrelevant.
If you somehow manage to imply that registering your own domain is a big skill, you end up in thedailywtf.com and not on a job.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724494</id>
	<title>Re:hey!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263232080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sigh. There was a time when cartooning meant knowing how to draw. Then you had internet cartoons that were just stick figures. Then even less creative people started doing graphic mashups. Finally we have a "cartoonist" who just reuses the same mashup in every cartoon.</p><p>There actually was a time when XKCD or Dinosaur cartoons actually made me laugh. But their lack of real creativity just got old.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sigh .
There was a time when cartooning meant knowing how to draw .
Then you had internet cartoons that were just stick figures .
Then even less creative people started doing graphic mashups .
Finally we have a " cartoonist " who just reuses the same mashup in every cartoon.There actually was a time when XKCD or Dinosaur cartoons actually made me laugh .
But their lack of real creativity just got old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sigh.
There was a time when cartooning meant knowing how to draw.
Then you had internet cartoons that were just stick figures.
Then even less creative people started doing graphic mashups.
Finally we have a "cartoonist" who just reuses the same mashup in every cartoon.There actually was a time when XKCD or Dinosaur cartoons actually made me laugh.
But their lack of real creativity just got old.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724862</id>
	<title>comcast</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263233460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Comcast ones are the most annoying.  Stupid to tie yourself to an ISP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Comcast ones are the most annoying .
Stupid to tie yourself to an ISP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Comcast ones are the most annoying.
Stupid to tie yourself to an ISP.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724246</id>
	<title>I'll put it this way.</title>
	<author>NoPantsJim</author>
	<datestamp>1263230880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm no longer NoPantsJim@-----.com. I was also lucky that Facebook let you change your username at least once, so facebook.com/NoPantsJim is history. It was a college nickname and lots of my old friends still call me that, but I graduated 3 years ago and it felt very silly sending out work emails and resumes from that address.
<br> <br>
Once I switched to JamesR(mylastname)@gmail.com, I noticed the responses to my resume increased dramatically.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm no longer NoPantsJim @ -----.com .
I was also lucky that Facebook let you change your username at least once , so facebook.com/NoPantsJim is history .
It was a college nickname and lots of my old friends still call me that , but I graduated 3 years ago and it felt very silly sending out work emails and resumes from that address .
Once I switched to JamesR ( mylastname ) @ gmail.com , I noticed the responses to my resume increased dramatically .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm no longer NoPantsJim@-----.com.
I was also lucky that Facebook let you change your username at least once, so facebook.com/NoPantsJim is history.
It was a college nickname and lots of my old friends still call me that, but I graduated 3 years ago and it felt very silly sending out work emails and resumes from that address.
Once I switched to JamesR(mylastname)@gmail.com, I noticed the responses to my resume increased dramatically.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30729766</id>
	<title>Re:I don't think it will cost you a job.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263208260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well that's a tad harsh, isn't it. I know a few consultants who have been around for long enough to prove their worth and use AOL accounts. The reason why is because they've had them for years and that's where <b>everyone</b> knows how to contact them.</p><p>And the reason they got an AOL address in the first place is because they travelled a lot back in the days when the easiest and most cost effective way to get on-line was to grab an AOL disk with 500 free hours and use one of the local telephone numbers on their USR modems.</p><p>These are the guys who designed or wrote some of the software you're using. I quote from one of your recent <a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1496606&amp;cid=30659384" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">posts</a> [slashdot.org]:</p><p><i>Be careful when tossing around insults, lest they come back and bite you.</i></p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well that 's a tad harsh , is n't it .
I know a few consultants who have been around for long enough to prove their worth and use AOL accounts .
The reason why is because they 've had them for years and that 's where everyone knows how to contact them.And the reason they got an AOL address in the first place is because they travelled a lot back in the days when the easiest and most cost effective way to get on-line was to grab an AOL disk with 500 free hours and use one of the local telephone numbers on their USR modems.These are the guys who designed or wrote some of the software you 're using .
I quote from one of your recent posts [ slashdot.org ] : Be careful when tossing around insults , lest they come back and bite you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well that's a tad harsh, isn't it.
I know a few consultants who have been around for long enough to prove their worth and use AOL accounts.
The reason why is because they've had them for years and that's where everyone knows how to contact them.And the reason they got an AOL address in the first place is because they travelled a lot back in the days when the easiest and most cost effective way to get on-line was to grab an AOL disk with 500 free hours and use one of the local telephone numbers on their USR modems.These are the guys who designed or wrote some of the software you're using.
I quote from one of your recent posts [slashdot.org]:Be careful when tossing around insults, lest they come back and bite you.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722212</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722116</id>
	<title>Not always</title>
	<author>consonant</author>
	<datestamp>1263220320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would (might?) not judge someone by their choice of email service provider. Being only human though, I would most certainly regard unfavourably applicants with email addresses like <i>cool\_dude19@hotmail.com</i> or <i>sistahs4eva@gmail.com</i>. Pretty much anything which isn't some part of their name is a no-no, although the occasional exception for a well-thought out/curiosity-arousing local-part can be made..</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would ( might ?
) not judge someone by their choice of email service provider .
Being only human though , I would most certainly regard unfavourably applicants with email addresses like cool \ _dude19 @ hotmail.com or sistahs4eva @ gmail.com .
Pretty much anything which is n't some part of their name is a no-no , although the occasional exception for a well-thought out/curiosity-arousing local-part can be made. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would (might?
) not judge someone by their choice of email service provider.
Being only human though, I would most certainly regard unfavourably applicants with email addresses like cool\_dude19@hotmail.com or sistahs4eva@gmail.com.
Pretty much anything which isn't some part of their name is a no-no, although the occasional exception for a well-thought out/curiosity-arousing local-part can be made..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724532</id>
	<title>Re:It's what comes before the @ that matters</title>
	<author>tick\_and\_bash</author>
	<datestamp>1263232200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems like so many people share the same advice regarding firstname.lastname, and I'm beginning to wonder if you all have such unique names that you can be assured that you won't have any issues getting your desired address with virtually any provider.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like so many people share the same advice regarding firstname.lastname , and I 'm beginning to wonder if you all have such unique names that you can be assured that you wo n't have any issues getting your desired address with virtually any provider .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like so many people share the same advice regarding firstname.lastname, and I'm beginning to wonder if you all have such unique names that you can be assured that you won't have any issues getting your desired address with virtually any provider.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721918</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723534</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>guyfawkes-11-5</author>
	<datestamp>1263227340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If it's a technology person, that's a red flag.  I'd expect them to at least have their own domain name. It doesn't cost THAT much and looks far more professional.

</p><p>Heck, even my cat has her own domain name.

</p><p>If it's a non-tech field, meh, I don't care that much. But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name, but still using @comcast or @aol on their business card for email.</p></div><p>I cringe everytime I see this on a business card.  If you invested enough time and money for a website, use your domain for email! Your paying for it anyway!
<br> <br>

Maybe its just me, but I question a persons credibility when I see a free email on a business card.  You can do everything else 100\% correctly, but the free email address automatically puts you in the bush league.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's a technology person , that 's a red flag .
I 'd expect them to at least have their own domain name .
It does n't cost THAT much and looks far more professional .
Heck , even my cat has her own domain name .
If it 's a non-tech field , meh , I do n't care that much .
But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name , but still using @ comcast or @ aol on their business card for email.I cringe everytime I see this on a business card .
If you invested enough time and money for a website , use your domain for email !
Your paying for it anyway !
Maybe its just me , but I question a persons credibility when I see a free email on a business card .
You can do everything else 100 \ % correctly , but the free email address automatically puts you in the bush league .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's a technology person, that's a red flag.
I'd expect them to at least have their own domain name.
It doesn't cost THAT much and looks far more professional.
Heck, even my cat has her own domain name.
If it's a non-tech field, meh, I don't care that much.
But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name, but still using @comcast or @aol on their business card for email.I cringe everytime I see this on a business card.
If you invested enough time and money for a website, use your domain for email!
Your paying for it anyway!
Maybe its just me, but I question a persons credibility when I see a free email on a business card.
You can do everything else 100\% correctly, but the free email address automatically puts you in the bush league.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721856</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724194</id>
	<title>Name vs Email</title>
	<author>ikarigullwing</author>
	<datestamp>1263230580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The biggest problem lies in when you get an email address that just sounds bad.  And I don't mean bad like @aol.com, I mean somethin' bad like my old boss, who tried to make an email address using his intials, the company he "owned", and all of this @verizon.  It was just wretchworthy in my opinion.

Truth be told though, I'll look just as hard at who the person registers the email address as, like gmail has you do.

Anyways, my $0.02.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The biggest problem lies in when you get an email address that just sounds bad .
And I do n't mean bad like @ aol.com , I mean somethin ' bad like my old boss , who tried to make an email address using his intials , the company he " owned " , and all of this @ verizon .
It was just wretchworthy in my opinion .
Truth be told though , I 'll look just as hard at who the person registers the email address as , like gmail has you do .
Anyways , my $ 0.02 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The biggest problem lies in when you get an email address that just sounds bad.
And I don't mean bad like @aol.com, I mean somethin' bad like my old boss, who tried to make an email address using his intials, the company he "owned", and all of this @verizon.
It was just wretchworthy in my opinion.
Truth be told though, I'll look just as hard at who the person registers the email address as, like gmail has you do.
Anyways, my $0.02.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30733386</id>
	<title>Re:I don't think it will cost you a job.</title>
	<author>RealGrouchy</author>
	<datestamp>1263231600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why is Gmail any more "professional" than Hotmail?</p></div><p>I had to use Hotmail once because it was the generic e-mail address for a group I was involved with. It was a serious pain in the ass to use it for anything except (1) read e-mail in inbox, (2) move e-mail to trash.</p><p>I can't stand it when someone with a Yahoo or Hotmail account asks me at a meeting to re-send them something I e-mailed them a few weeks ago "because I already deleted it" or "I can't find the printout."</p><p>A person who uses Gmail is more likely to be have the foresight to realize they might need to refer to an e-mail weeks or months down the road. While they might not use the features, the fact is they are using an engine with the ability to file e-mails in multiple locations, access them from any computer with an internet connection, and to search for them very easily, all with little worry of running out of space.</p><p>The only common benefit of people who use Hotmail or AOL is that they probably have a lot of patience.</p><p>- RG&gt;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is Gmail any more " professional " than Hotmail ? I had to use Hotmail once because it was the generic e-mail address for a group I was involved with .
It was a serious pain in the ass to use it for anything except ( 1 ) read e-mail in inbox , ( 2 ) move e-mail to trash.I ca n't stand it when someone with a Yahoo or Hotmail account asks me at a meeting to re-send them something I e-mailed them a few weeks ago " because I already deleted it " or " I ca n't find the printout .
" A person who uses Gmail is more likely to be have the foresight to realize they might need to refer to an e-mail weeks or months down the road .
While they might not use the features , the fact is they are using an engine with the ability to file e-mails in multiple locations , access them from any computer with an internet connection , and to search for them very easily , all with little worry of running out of space.The only common benefit of people who use Hotmail or AOL is that they probably have a lot of patience.- RG &gt;</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is Gmail any more "professional" than Hotmail?I had to use Hotmail once because it was the generic e-mail address for a group I was involved with.
It was a serious pain in the ass to use it for anything except (1) read e-mail in inbox, (2) move e-mail to trash.I can't stand it when someone with a Yahoo or Hotmail account asks me at a meeting to re-send them something I e-mailed them a few weeks ago "because I already deleted it" or "I can't find the printout.
"A person who uses Gmail is more likely to be have the foresight to realize they might need to refer to an e-mail weeks or months down the road.
While they might not use the features, the fact is they are using an engine with the ability to file e-mails in multiple locations, access them from any computer with an internet connection, and to search for them very easily, all with little worry of running out of space.The only common benefit of people who use Hotmail or AOL is that they probably have a lot of patience.- RG&gt;
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723568</id>
	<title>Again, Yes.</title>
	<author>faedle</author>
	<datestamp>1263227520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... especially for an IT job.</p><p>If you are selling yourself as some kind of system administrator or alpha geek, you damn well better not have an E-mail address that ends in @aol.com, that's for darn sure.</p><p>Oddly enough, gmail.com doesn't have the same stigma.. but I'm still going to be more impressed by somebody who has a "me@me.com" address (or as others have pointed out, a "me@acm.org" address associated with a well-respected professional organization).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... especially for an IT job.If you are selling yourself as some kind of system administrator or alpha geek , you damn well better not have an E-mail address that ends in @ aol.com , that 's for darn sure.Oddly enough , gmail.com does n't have the same stigma.. but I 'm still going to be more impressed by somebody who has a " me @ me.com " address ( or as others have pointed out , a " me @ acm.org " address associated with a well-respected professional organization ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... especially for an IT job.If you are selling yourself as some kind of system administrator or alpha geek, you damn well better not have an E-mail address that ends in @aol.com, that's for darn sure.Oddly enough, gmail.com doesn't have the same stigma.. but I'm still going to be more impressed by somebody who has a "me@me.com" address (or as others have pointed out, a "me@acm.org" address associated with a well-respected professional organization).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723764</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1263228480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Heck, even my cat has her own domain name.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Don't be fucking stupid, cats can't even read, let alone fill out domain registration documents. And how is she going to pay for it?  With dead mice?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Heck , even my cat has her own domain name .
Do n't be fucking stupid , cats ca n't even read , let alone fill out domain registration documents .
And how is she going to pay for it ?
With dead mice ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heck, even my cat has her own domain name.
Don't be fucking stupid, cats can't even read, let alone fill out domain registration documents.
And how is she going to pay for it?
With dead mice?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723540</id>
	<title>Re:People still use email?</title>
	<author>iivel</author>
	<datestamp>1263227400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm one of those that "doesn't do social networks"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I email plenty. I have no desire to update a website with information that should be targeted to a specific few, and when I do; it will be on a domain I own with privacy protections within my control.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm one of those that " does n't do social networks " ... I email plenty .
I have no desire to update a website with information that should be targeted to a specific few , and when I do ; it will be on a domain I own with privacy protections within my control .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm one of those that "doesn't do social networks" ... I email plenty.
I have no desire to update a website with information that should be targeted to a specific few, and when I do; it will be on a domain I own with privacy protections within my control.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725288</id>
	<title>Makes no difference these days</title>
	<author>OrangeTide</author>
	<datestamp>1263235020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>5 or so years ago, it was bad to have uncool domains. But the stigma around AOL has basically disappeared. There are plenty of professional people with hotmail, aol, yahoo, etc accounts. As long as your email address doesn't contain something offensive or weird in it, people don't longer care.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>5 or so years ago , it was bad to have uncool domains .
But the stigma around AOL has basically disappeared .
There are plenty of professional people with hotmail , aol , yahoo , etc accounts .
As long as your email address does n't contain something offensive or weird in it , people do n't longer care .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>5 or so years ago, it was bad to have uncool domains.
But the stigma around AOL has basically disappeared.
There are plenty of professional people with hotmail, aol, yahoo, etc accounts.
As long as your email address doesn't contain something offensive or weird in it, people don't longer care.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30733590</id>
	<title>Degrees of stupid</title>
	<author>CAIMLAS</author>
	<datestamp>1263233580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really, what it comes down to is a social assessment of a persons' technical ability and/or competence.</p><p>I'm a sysadmin. If I were to deal with someone with an @aol.com or @hotmail.com, I'd think a combination of the following things:</p><p>1) They're older.<br>2) They're technologically and/or socially conservative.<br>3) They're incompetent (when it comes to computers).</p><p>There's no technical advantage to using either of those domains for email; that's why they've got the stigma, and why people have moved away to other web based mail.</p><p>These might not be 'correct' implications, but the stigma is there, just the same - even though someone with an @live.com address wouldn't likely have the same stigma.</p><p>If I were a writer, I'd not worry about it so much. For most people, an email address shows nothing more about them than their physical mailing address (even if it's something stupid, like discgolfbum@hotmail.com).</p><p>If I were an IT hiring manager or something like that, hiring for a Linux administrator, an @live.com or similar email address would dissuade me somewhat from interest in said candidate. In IT, there is a degree of technical savvy which needs to be demonstrated in a person's personal technology choices - preferably pertaining to their expertise.</p><p>Meanwhile, those of us who have had our own vanity domains and host our email through that will never face this problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really , what it comes down to is a social assessment of a persons ' technical ability and/or competence.I 'm a sysadmin .
If I were to deal with someone with an @ aol.com or @ hotmail.com , I 'd think a combination of the following things : 1 ) They 're older.2 ) They 're technologically and/or socially conservative.3 ) They 're incompetent ( when it comes to computers ) .There 's no technical advantage to using either of those domains for email ; that 's why they 've got the stigma , and why people have moved away to other web based mail.These might not be 'correct ' implications , but the stigma is there , just the same - even though someone with an @ live.com address would n't likely have the same stigma.If I were a writer , I 'd not worry about it so much .
For most people , an email address shows nothing more about them than their physical mailing address ( even if it 's something stupid , like discgolfbum @ hotmail.com ) .If I were an IT hiring manager or something like that , hiring for a Linux administrator , an @ live.com or similar email address would dissuade me somewhat from interest in said candidate .
In IT , there is a degree of technical savvy which needs to be demonstrated in a person 's personal technology choices - preferably pertaining to their expertise.Meanwhile , those of us who have had our own vanity domains and host our email through that will never face this problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really, what it comes down to is a social assessment of a persons' technical ability and/or competence.I'm a sysadmin.
If I were to deal with someone with an @aol.com or @hotmail.com, I'd think a combination of the following things:1) They're older.2) They're technologically and/or socially conservative.3) They're incompetent (when it comes to computers).There's no technical advantage to using either of those domains for email; that's why they've got the stigma, and why people have moved away to other web based mail.These might not be 'correct' implications, but the stigma is there, just the same - even though someone with an @live.com address wouldn't likely have the same stigma.If I were a writer, I'd not worry about it so much.
For most people, an email address shows nothing more about them than their physical mailing address (even if it's something stupid, like discgolfbum@hotmail.com).If I were an IT hiring manager or something like that, hiring for a Linux administrator, an @live.com or similar email address would dissuade me somewhat from interest in said candidate.
In IT, there is a degree of technical savvy which needs to be demonstrated in a person's personal technology choices - preferably pertaining to their expertise.Meanwhile, those of us who have had our own vanity domains and host our email through that will never face this problem.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726648</id>
	<title>Better Question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263241020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which e-mail addresses do you consider "toxic"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which e-mail addresses do you consider " toxic " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which e-mail addresses do you consider "toxic"?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723226</id>
	<title>Why AOL  Yahoo, Hotmail and maybe even GMail</title>
	<author>TwinkieStix</author>
	<datestamp>1263225780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't understand why AOL is ripped on so much in the community.  AOL mail supports unlimited IMAP/POP3/SMTP storage.  REAL IMAP.  REAL.</p><p>For those of us who prefer non-web-based mail readers such as Thunderbird or mutt (for their speed, configurability, or better offline-support), full and complete IMAP is a MUST.  Gmail supports the IMAP protocol, but the mapping between tags and folders is so disparate that I find it completely useless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand why AOL is ripped on so much in the community .
AOL mail supports unlimited IMAP/POP3/SMTP storage .
REAL IMAP .
REAL.For those of us who prefer non-web-based mail readers such as Thunderbird or mutt ( for their speed , configurability , or better offline-support ) , full and complete IMAP is a MUST .
Gmail supports the IMAP protocol , but the mapping between tags and folders is so disparate that I find it completely useless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand why AOL is ripped on so much in the community.
AOL mail supports unlimited IMAP/POP3/SMTP storage.
REAL IMAP.
REAL.For those of us who prefer non-web-based mail readers such as Thunderbird or mutt (for their speed, configurability, or better offline-support), full and complete IMAP is a MUST.
Gmail supports the IMAP protocol, but the mapping between tags and folders is so disparate that I find it completely useless.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724642</id>
	<title>Of course it does. Most of the time.</title>
	<author>Captain Digital</author>
	<datestamp>1263232740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When I hire someone, it's generally for graphic arts positions. A lame email address (and by that I mean "AOL" or virtually any "free" email address that comes with Internet access) is an early indicator that the person interviewing is not as technologically savvy as I'd like to find. It's not a hard and fast rule - just an indicator. I've found that a lot of credible candidates have free email accounts from Hotmail/Yahoo/Gmail, and that doesn't seem to have any bearing on their tech savvy. But let me see something from "clueless1975@roadrunner.net" or "luddite6@aol.com" and I can promise you, they won't know their ass from their elbow when it comes to online work.

Ironically, my best friend used his AOL address as his primary/home email for years...until I finally convinced him of Gmail's superior anti-spam filtering. And he was a fairly technical guy...a former mid-level manager at HP, GTE, and Nortel. You just never know...</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I hire someone , it 's generally for graphic arts positions .
A lame email address ( and by that I mean " AOL " or virtually any " free " email address that comes with Internet access ) is an early indicator that the person interviewing is not as technologically savvy as I 'd like to find .
It 's not a hard and fast rule - just an indicator .
I 've found that a lot of credible candidates have free email accounts from Hotmail/Yahoo/Gmail , and that does n't seem to have any bearing on their tech savvy .
But let me see something from " clueless1975 @ roadrunner.net " or " luddite6 @ aol.com " and I can promise you , they wo n't know their ass from their elbow when it comes to online work .
Ironically , my best friend used his AOL address as his primary/home email for years...until I finally convinced him of Gmail 's superior anti-spam filtering .
And he was a fairly technical guy...a former mid-level manager at HP , GTE , and Nortel .
You just never know.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I hire someone, it's generally for graphic arts positions.
A lame email address (and by that I mean "AOL" or virtually any "free" email address that comes with Internet access) is an early indicator that the person interviewing is not as technologically savvy as I'd like to find.
It's not a hard and fast rule - just an indicator.
I've found that a lot of credible candidates have free email accounts from Hotmail/Yahoo/Gmail, and that doesn't seem to have any bearing on their tech savvy.
But let me see something from "clueless1975@roadrunner.net" or "luddite6@aol.com" and I can promise you, they won't know their ass from their elbow when it comes to online work.
Ironically, my best friend used his AOL address as his primary/home email for years...until I finally convinced him of Gmail's superior anti-spam filtering.
And he was a fairly technical guy...a former mid-level manager at HP, GTE, and Nortel.
You just never know...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724350</id>
	<title>Re:Absolutely not.</title>
	<author>Archangel Michael</author>
	<datestamp>1263231540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What is next people? Are you going to check also if they are using an iPhone or not? The kind of car they drive? The newspapers they read?</p><p>Next up is exactly what you're asking. Yes, Maybe, and Yes.</p><p>Well, not specifically iPhone, but smart phone verses a TracPhone. And who reads Newspapers anymore?</p><p>The only Maybe is cars.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What is next people ?
Are you going to check also if they are using an iPhone or not ?
The kind of car they drive ?
The newspapers they read ? Next up is exactly what you 're asking .
Yes , Maybe , and Yes.Well , not specifically iPhone , but smart phone verses a TracPhone .
And who reads Newspapers anymore ? The only Maybe is cars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is next people?
Are you going to check also if they are using an iPhone or not?
The kind of car they drive?
The newspapers they read?Next up is exactly what you're asking.
Yes, Maybe, and Yes.Well, not specifically iPhone, but smart phone verses a TracPhone.
And who reads Newspapers anymore?The only Maybe is cars.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722746</id>
	<title>/dev/null</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263223380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I forward everything coming from @hotmail.com and @aol.com to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/dev/null</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I forward everything coming from @ hotmail.com and @ aol.com to /dev/null</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I forward everything coming from @hotmail.com and @aol.com to /dev/null</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722990</id>
	<title>Re:I notice it.</title>
	<author>RogL</author>
	<datestamp>1263224640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Something that may be overlooked is/was AOL's "parental controls" , which used to be very handy for a family with children of varying ages.  I used AOL for several years back in the early/mid-90s for just this reason, despite being fairly technical (developing commercial DOS/ Windows apps, some Unix work, in C/C++ &amp; APL, and administering Novell &amp; SQL servers).</p><p>I have no idea what their offerings are now, but being able to ratchet down the "sandbox" a young child had access to through the AOL client, or restrict them to only whitelisted contacts, was very handy.  May not be needed by or thought of by younger singles, but very helpful to allow starting them off with relatively safe access &amp; gradually expanding it as appropriate, or restricting it if they weren't behaving responsibly.</p><p>Again, in the past at least, an AOL address may have indicated any of: technical incompetence, a need for nationwide dial-up access while travelling, or simply a parent wanting easy-to-setup accounts for the kids.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Something that may be overlooked is/was AOL 's " parental controls " , which used to be very handy for a family with children of varying ages .
I used AOL for several years back in the early/mid-90s for just this reason , despite being fairly technical ( developing commercial DOS/ Windows apps , some Unix work , in C/C + + &amp; APL , and administering Novell &amp; SQL servers ) .I have no idea what their offerings are now , but being able to ratchet down the " sandbox " a young child had access to through the AOL client , or restrict them to only whitelisted contacts , was very handy .
May not be needed by or thought of by younger singles , but very helpful to allow starting them off with relatively safe access &amp; gradually expanding it as appropriate , or restricting it if they were n't behaving responsibly.Again , in the past at least , an AOL address may have indicated any of : technical incompetence , a need for nationwide dial-up access while travelling , or simply a parent wanting easy-to-setup accounts for the kids .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Something that may be overlooked is/was AOL's "parental controls" , which used to be very handy for a family with children of varying ages.
I used AOL for several years back in the early/mid-90s for just this reason, despite being fairly technical (developing commercial DOS/ Windows apps, some Unix work, in C/C++ &amp; APL, and administering Novell &amp; SQL servers).I have no idea what their offerings are now, but being able to ratchet down the "sandbox" a young child had access to through the AOL client, or restrict them to only whitelisted contacts, was very handy.
May not be needed by or thought of by younger singles, but very helpful to allow starting them off with relatively safe access &amp; gradually expanding it as appropriate, or restricting it if they weren't behaving responsibly.Again, in the past at least, an AOL address may have indicated any of: technical incompetence, a need for nationwide dial-up access while travelling, or simply a parent wanting easy-to-setup accounts for the kids.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721856</id>
	<title>Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>weave</author>
	<datestamp>1263219000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it's a technology person, that's a red flag.  I'd expect them to at least have their own domain name. It doesn't cost THAT much and looks far more professional.

</p><p>Heck, even my cat has her own domain name.

</p><p>If it's a non-tech field, meh, I don't care that much. But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name, but still using @comcast or @aol on their business card for email.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's a technology person , that 's a red flag .
I 'd expect them to at least have their own domain name .
It does n't cost THAT much and looks far more professional .
Heck , even my cat has her own domain name .
If it 's a non-tech field , meh , I do n't care that much .
But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name , but still using @ comcast or @ aol on their business card for email .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's a technology person, that's a red flag.
I'd expect them to at least have their own domain name.
It doesn't cost THAT much and looks far more professional.
Heck, even my cat has her own domain name.
If it's a non-tech field, meh, I don't care that much.
But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name, but still using @comcast or @aol on their business card for email.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723976</id>
	<title>Research on the topic.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263229440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd like to point out this article by Dr. Mitja Back et al.:</p><p>Back, M. D., Schmukle, S. C. &amp; Egloff, B. (2008). How extraverted is honey.bunny77@hotmail.de? Inferring personality traits from email addresses. Journal of Research in Personality, 42, 1116-1122.</p><p><a href="http://psycho.sowi.uni-mainz.de/abteil/pp/back.html" title="uni-mainz.de" rel="nofollow">PDF available on the author's website.</a> [uni-mainz.de]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to point out this article by Dr. Mitja Back et al .
: Back , M. D. , Schmukle , S. C. &amp; Egloff , B .
( 2008 ) . How extraverted is honey.bunny77 @ hotmail.de ?
Inferring personality traits from email addresses .
Journal of Research in Personality , 42 , 1116-1122.PDF available on the author 's website .
[ uni-mainz.de ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to point out this article by Dr. Mitja Back et al.
:Back, M. D., Schmukle, S. C. &amp; Egloff, B.
(2008). How extraverted is honey.bunny77@hotmail.de?
Inferring personality traits from email addresses.
Journal of Research in Personality, 42, 1116-1122.PDF available on the author's website.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726664</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>ZZartin</author>
	<datestamp>1263241080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If it's a technology person, that's a red flag.  I'd expect them to at least have their own domain name. It doesn't cost THAT much and looks far more professional.

</p><p>Heck, even my cat has her own domain name.

</p><p>If it's a non-tech field, meh, I don't care that much. But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name, but still using @comcast or @aol on their business card for email.</p></div><p>As a tech person I see zero reason to have my own domain name.  I have enough servers to keep track of at work why should I bother getting one more than those for my personal life?

I have a gmail account for my personal/business needs which works quite well and a yahoo account for my BS needs.  Frankly at this point in time google or yahoo going out of business and shutting down their mail service is not a very likely prospect.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's a technology person , that 's a red flag .
I 'd expect them to at least have their own domain name .
It does n't cost THAT much and looks far more professional .
Heck , even my cat has her own domain name .
If it 's a non-tech field , meh , I do n't care that much .
But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name , but still using @ comcast or @ aol on their business card for email.As a tech person I see zero reason to have my own domain name .
I have enough servers to keep track of at work why should I bother getting one more than those for my personal life ?
I have a gmail account for my personal/business needs which works quite well and a yahoo account for my BS needs .
Frankly at this point in time google or yahoo going out of business and shutting down their mail service is not a very likely prospect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's a technology person, that's a red flag.
I'd expect them to at least have their own domain name.
It doesn't cost THAT much and looks far more professional.
Heck, even my cat has her own domain name.
If it's a non-tech field, meh, I don't care that much.
But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name, but still using @comcast or @aol on their business card for email.As a tech person I see zero reason to have my own domain name.
I have enough servers to keep track of at work why should I bother getting one more than those for my personal life?
I have a gmail account for my personal/business needs which works quite well and a yahoo account for my BS needs.
Frankly at this point in time google or yahoo going out of business and shutting down their mail service is not a very likely prospect.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30761390</id>
	<title>Re:It's like clothes. . .</title>
	<author>GasHed</author>
	<datestamp>1263410280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>After reading a number of responses here while I finish my night cap, this is my favorite by far. While I have my own opinions as to what the best email service is technically, it really is a indicator of what culture you belong to.  Gmail is still the new and edgy (T-shirt with a sport coat), just out of beta email service, hotmail and yahoo are the I got email when it was cool crowd (banana republic sweater over shirt and tie) and aol and compuserve are the I figured this out 10 years ago and got stuck crowd (white short sleve shirt with pens in the pocket).

Most smart companies have now figured out that personality and culture are equally, if not more important than technical prowess and the email address you choose to use is one of many indicators of your personality.</htmltext>
<tokenext>After reading a number of responses here while I finish my night cap , this is my favorite by far .
While I have my own opinions as to what the best email service is technically , it really is a indicator of what culture you belong to .
Gmail is still the new and edgy ( T-shirt with a sport coat ) , just out of beta email service , hotmail and yahoo are the I got email when it was cool crowd ( banana republic sweater over shirt and tie ) and aol and compuserve are the I figured this out 10 years ago and got stuck crowd ( white short sleve shirt with pens in the pocket ) .
Most smart companies have now figured out that personality and culture are equally , if not more important than technical prowess and the email address you choose to use is one of many indicators of your personality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After reading a number of responses here while I finish my night cap, this is my favorite by far.
While I have my own opinions as to what the best email service is technically, it really is a indicator of what culture you belong to.
Gmail is still the new and edgy (T-shirt with a sport coat), just out of beta email service, hotmail and yahoo are the I got email when it was cool crowd (banana republic sweater over shirt and tie) and aol and compuserve are the I figured this out 10 years ago and got stuck crowd (white short sleve shirt with pens in the pocket).
Most smart companies have now figured out that personality and culture are equally, if not more important than technical prowess and the email address you choose to use is one of many indicators of your personality.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722950</id>
	<title>Stupid Questions</title>
	<author>AP31R0N</author>
	<datestamp>1263224400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will Slashdotters ever stop posting headlines in the form of a stupid, meaningless headlines?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will Slashdotters ever stop posting headlines in the form of a stupid , meaningless headlines ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will Slashdotters ever stop posting headlines in the form of a stupid, meaningless headlines?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30731086</id>
	<title>Using wife's address</title>
	<author>Lemuel</author>
	<datestamp>1263214500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder about my tech friends when I see one has an aol address, but what concerned me more was when a tech friend sent out a message using his wife's email address.  Having an aol address doesn't mean that you have dialup anymore, but using your wife's account when there are untold places to get free addresses of your own is completely baffling.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder about my tech friends when I see one has an aol address , but what concerned me more was when a tech friend sent out a message using his wife 's email address .
Having an aol address does n't mean that you have dialup anymore , but using your wife 's account when there are untold places to get free addresses of your own is completely baffling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder about my tech friends when I see one has an aol address, but what concerned me more was when a tech friend sent out a message using his wife's email address.
Having an aol address doesn't mean that you have dialup anymore, but using your wife's account when there are untold places to get free addresses of your own is completely baffling.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721936</id>
	<title>Hotmail is Microsoft</title>
	<author>sciencewatcher</author>
	<datestamp>1263219420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hotmail addresses were fine. Until Hotmail was bought by Microsoft. Something about 'Resistance is futile...'</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hotmail addresses were fine .
Until Hotmail was bought by Microsoft .
Something about 'Resistance is futile...'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hotmail addresses were fine.
Until Hotmail was bought by Microsoft.
Something about 'Resistance is futile...'</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721962</id>
	<title>Business email...</title>
	<author>Bert64</author>
	<datestamp>1263219480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For a personal email i guess it's not so bad, at least for people working outside of IT..<br>I would expect anyone who applies for an IT related job to have their own domain at least.</p><p>What does put me off however, is businesses which use free email addresses... It's not uncommon to see a storefront or vehicle painted with the company name, phone number and logo on the side, and then a hotmail email address..<br>It's even worse when the business has it's own domain name for a website, but does not use that domain to host their email...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For a personal email i guess it 's not so bad , at least for people working outside of IT..I would expect anyone who applies for an IT related job to have their own domain at least.What does put me off however , is businesses which use free email addresses... It 's not uncommon to see a storefront or vehicle painted with the company name , phone number and logo on the side , and then a hotmail email address..It 's even worse when the business has it 's own domain name for a website , but does not use that domain to host their email.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a personal email i guess it's not so bad, at least for people working outside of IT..I would expect anyone who applies for an IT related job to have their own domain at least.What does put me off however, is businesses which use free email addresses... It's not uncommon to see a storefront or vehicle painted with the company name, phone number and logo on the side, and then a hotmail email address..It's even worse when the business has it's own domain name for a website, but does not use that domain to host their email...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721988</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263219660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what is the point of your own domain name? i've seen plenty of good IT people who almost technologically illiterate in some areas. most of our devs don't know a single thing about administration of systems</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what is the point of your own domain name ?
i 've seen plenty of good IT people who almost technologically illiterate in some areas .
most of our devs do n't know a single thing about administration of systems</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what is the point of your own domain name?
i've seen plenty of good IT people who almost technologically illiterate in some areas.
most of our devs don't know a single thing about administration of systems</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723592</id>
	<title>You're kidding, right?</title>
	<author>QuietLagoon</author>
	<datestamp>1263227640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><i> Would an AOL e-mail address  or another 'toxic' e-mail address  influence your decision to hire someone?"</i> <p>.<br>

If you make hiring decisions based upon unrelated-to-the-job things like email addresses, then you deserve the level of employees that you get.  What's next, not hiring someone because the name of the street they live on is dorky?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would an AOL e-mail address or another 'toxic ' e-mail address influence your decision to hire someone ?
" .
If you make hiring decisions based upon unrelated-to-the-job things like email addresses , then you deserve the level of employees that you get .
What 's next , not hiring someone because the name of the street they live on is dorky ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Would an AOL e-mail address  or another 'toxic' e-mail address  influence your decision to hire someone?
" .
If you make hiring decisions based upon unrelated-to-the-job things like email addresses, then you deserve the level of employees that you get.
What's next, not hiring someone because the name of the street they live on is dorky?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724936</id>
	<title>2.5 percent of Klein Bottle purchasers now use AOL</title>
	<author>Cliff Stoll</author>
	<datestamp>1263233760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For the past 12 years, I've been making &amp; selling Klein Bottles.  A quick analysis of online order email addresses (no, I don't spam!) shows the decline in AOL domain for people ordering onesided manifolds:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 1997  13\%  (about)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 1998  15\%  (about)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 1999  16\%  (about)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 2000  14.8\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 2001  13.4\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 2002  12.2\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 2003  10.0\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 2004   4.8\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 2005   4.4\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 2006   4.7\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 2007   3.9\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 2008   3.5\%<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 2009   2.5\%</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Cheers,   -Cliff</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For the past 12 years , I 've been making &amp; selling Klein Bottles .
A quick analysis of online order email addresses ( no , I do n't spam !
) shows the decline in AOL domain for people ordering onesided manifolds :     1997 13 \ % ( about )     1998 15 \ % ( about )     1999 16 \ % ( about )     2000 14.8 \ %     2001 13.4 \ %     2002 12.2 \ %     2003 10.0 \ %     2004 4.8 \ %     2005 4.4 \ %     2006 4.7 \ %     2007 3.9 \ %     2008 3.5 \ %     2009 2.5 \ %     Cheers , -Cliff</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the past 12 years, I've been making &amp; selling Klein Bottles.
A quick analysis of online order email addresses (no, I don't spam!
) shows the decline in AOL domain for people ordering onesided manifolds:
    1997  13\%  (about)
    1998  15\%  (about)
    1999  16\%  (about)
    2000  14.8\%
    2001  13.4\%
    2002  12.2\%
    2003  10.0\%
    2004   4.8\%
    2005   4.4\%
    2006   4.7\%
    2007   3.9\%
    2008   3.5\%
    2009   2.5\%
    Cheers,   -Cliff</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723888</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1263229020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Given the cost-cutting trend we've seen in IT over the past decade, would the image of someone that spends additional money/time on unnecessary technology be appealing?</p></div><p>A domain registration costs something like $10/year.</p><p>Cheap hosting, if you don't have hardware yourself, costs something like $40/year.</p><p>For $50/year you can get yourself a nice, shiny, professional looking email address instead of something @aol.com  Which says to me, if they're still using an AOL address, that they just don't care.</p><p>If it's somebody's private email address, for friends and family, it really doesn't matter.  I've got a GMAIL address I use for such personal communication.  But for a business email address, that's really pretty sloppy.</p><p>I'm not saying I'll just ignore anybody with an AOL or HOTMAIL email address...  But if I'm looking to hire an electrician or something like that, the guy with the AOL address already looks less professional than someone who has their own domain.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Given the cost-cutting trend we 've seen in IT over the past decade , would the image of someone that spends additional money/time on unnecessary technology be appealing ? A domain registration costs something like $ 10/year.Cheap hosting , if you do n't have hardware yourself , costs something like $ 40/year.For $ 50/year you can get yourself a nice , shiny , professional looking email address instead of something @ aol.com Which says to me , if they 're still using an AOL address , that they just do n't care.If it 's somebody 's private email address , for friends and family , it really does n't matter .
I 've got a GMAIL address I use for such personal communication .
But for a business email address , that 's really pretty sloppy.I 'm not saying I 'll just ignore anybody with an AOL or HOTMAIL email address... But if I 'm looking to hire an electrician or something like that , the guy with the AOL address already looks less professional than someone who has their own domain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given the cost-cutting trend we've seen in IT over the past decade, would the image of someone that spends additional money/time on unnecessary technology be appealing?A domain registration costs something like $10/year.Cheap hosting, if you don't have hardware yourself, costs something like $40/year.For $50/year you can get yourself a nice, shiny, professional looking email address instead of something @aol.com  Which says to me, if they're still using an AOL address, that they just don't care.If it's somebody's private email address, for friends and family, it really doesn't matter.
I've got a GMAIL address I use for such personal communication.
But for a business email address, that's really pretty sloppy.I'm not saying I'll just ignore anybody with an AOL or HOTMAIL email address...  But if I'm looking to hire an electrician or something like that, the guy with the AOL address already looks less professional than someone who has their own domain.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723092</id>
	<title>In or out of the IT sector?</title>
	<author>assertation</author>
	<datestamp>1263225120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to admit that when I see an AOL email address or something similar I notice it, thinking, "how frumpy".</p><p>Then again I've been a programmer for 11 years.</p><p>My guess is that fields that have little to do with IT might not care as much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to admit that when I see an AOL email address or something similar I notice it , thinking , " how frumpy " .Then again I 've been a programmer for 11 years.My guess is that fields that have little to do with IT might not care as much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to admit that when I see an AOL email address or something similar I notice it, thinking, "how frumpy".Then again I've been a programmer for 11 years.My guess is that fields that have little to do with IT might not care as much.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30735356</id>
	<title>Re:Hotmail is Microsoft</title>
	<author>aqk</author>
	<datestamp>1263300000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Hotmail addresses were fine.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.'</p></div><p>
Really?  Were you (or perhaps ARE YOU)) some teenybopper? <br>


<br>
Wait!  I forgot! This is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.   Anything to badmouth MS  (oops!  I mean M$)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hotmail addresses were fine .
. ' Really ?
Were you ( or perhaps ARE YOU ) ) some teenybopper ?
Wait ! I forgot !
This is / .
Anything to badmouth MS ( oops !
I mean M $ )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hotmail addresses were fine.
.'
Really?
Were you (or perhaps ARE YOU)) some teenybopper?
Wait!  I forgot!
This is /.
Anything to badmouth MS  (oops!
I mean M$)
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721920</id>
	<title>The real problem is often what the username is</title>
	<author>weave</author>
	<datestamp>1263219360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's bad is getting a resume with something embarrassing before that @aol.com bit, like p4rtyg1rl69 or phillygansta92. (Yes, I've seen a few like that).</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's bad is getting a resume with something embarrassing before that @ aol.com bit , like p4rtyg1rl69 or phillygansta92 .
( Yes , I 've seen a few like that ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's bad is getting a resume with something embarrassing before that @aol.com bit, like p4rtyg1rl69 or phillygansta92.
(Yes, I've seen a few like that).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726382</id>
	<title>It depends...</title>
	<author>TemporalBeing</author>
	<datestamp>1263239880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...it all depends, some factors:
<ul>
<li>is the address something derogatory (e.g. ihate...)? random (cutie99...)? intelligent (name@...)?</li><li>if from a known 'spamming' site (like @aol.com or @hotmail.com), it might give pause and question as to its validity</li><li>can I get an e-mail to/from you?</li></ul><p>

Basically - the first one: if it's something professional, then that's okay. If not, it doesn't belong on your resume so it's points against you. Not a disqualifier, but you've lost some credibility.
<br> <br>
The second one will give pause until I could confirm its a good address, and you'll gain points if it is your primary account that you've had for years; but greatly lose points if its one you are treating as a throw-away - e.g. you sign up for it until you get hired, then toss it; repeat next time looking for work.
<br> <br>
The third is probably the most important - and I've had some trouble even with known good domains. But the point is - if I can't reliably get e-mail to or from you, then the account is worthless, and you'd better get a different account b/c I probably tossed your resume if you failed to respond in a timely manner to any inquiry. This is mostly points against you for what is seen as <i>your</i> lack of being a professional and responding in a timely manner. If the email gets rejected as a bad address, if your resume is interesting enough I might call, but don't count on it.
<br> <br>
Simply put, your e-mail address does reflect on you, but as one of many factors. It does give a big first impression - but that's more the account name reflecting how you think, or how you respond to emails (which would be taken as a reflection of your productivity and work ethics by extension).
<br> <br>
First impressions are a big thing. So think before you put anything on your resume. Doesn't matter what it is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...it all depends , some factors : is the address something derogatory ( e.g .
ihate... ) ? random ( cutie99... ) ?
intelligent ( name @ ... ) ? if from a known 'spamming ' site ( like @ aol.com or @ hotmail.com ) , it might give pause and question as to its validitycan I get an e-mail to/from you ?
Basically - the first one : if it 's something professional , then that 's okay .
If not , it does n't belong on your resume so it 's points against you .
Not a disqualifier , but you 've lost some credibility .
The second one will give pause until I could confirm its a good address , and you 'll gain points if it is your primary account that you 've had for years ; but greatly lose points if its one you are treating as a throw-away - e.g .
you sign up for it until you get hired , then toss it ; repeat next time looking for work .
The third is probably the most important - and I 've had some trouble even with known good domains .
But the point is - if I ca n't reliably get e-mail to or from you , then the account is worthless , and you 'd better get a different account b/c I probably tossed your resume if you failed to respond in a timely manner to any inquiry .
This is mostly points against you for what is seen as your lack of being a professional and responding in a timely manner .
If the email gets rejected as a bad address , if your resume is interesting enough I might call , but do n't count on it .
Simply put , your e-mail address does reflect on you , but as one of many factors .
It does give a big first impression - but that 's more the account name reflecting how you think , or how you respond to emails ( which would be taken as a reflection of your productivity and work ethics by extension ) .
First impressions are a big thing .
So think before you put anything on your resume .
Does n't matter what it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...it all depends, some factors:

is the address something derogatory (e.g.
ihate...)? random (cutie99...)?
intelligent (name@...)?if from a known 'spamming' site (like @aol.com or @hotmail.com), it might give pause and question as to its validitycan I get an e-mail to/from you?
Basically - the first one: if it's something professional, then that's okay.
If not, it doesn't belong on your resume so it's points against you.
Not a disqualifier, but you've lost some credibility.
The second one will give pause until I could confirm its a good address, and you'll gain points if it is your primary account that you've had for years; but greatly lose points if its one you are treating as a throw-away - e.g.
you sign up for it until you get hired, then toss it; repeat next time looking for work.
The third is probably the most important - and I've had some trouble even with known good domains.
But the point is - if I can't reliably get e-mail to or from you, then the account is worthless, and you'd better get a different account b/c I probably tossed your resume if you failed to respond in a timely manner to any inquiry.
This is mostly points against you for what is seen as your lack of being a professional and responding in a timely manner.
If the email gets rejected as a bad address, if your resume is interesting enough I might call, but don't count on it.
Simply put, your e-mail address does reflect on you, but as one of many factors.
It does give a big first impression - but that's more the account name reflecting how you think, or how you respond to emails (which would be taken as a reflection of your productivity and work ethics by extension).
First impressions are a big thing.
So think before you put anything on your resume.
Doesn't matter what it is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723496</id>
	<title>Simply, yes.</title>
	<author>epp\_b</author>
	<datestamp>1263227160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes.  In business, image is everything.  The appearance of "johnd@companywebsite.com" is far more professional than that of @hotmail, @gmail or even @isp (perhaps <i>especially</i> @isp, as it shows you're too cheap or lazy to setup a better email address for yourself).<br> <br>

OK, what if you don't have a website?  We're a decade into the new millennium.  Even if you don't expect to make online sales or attract new customers online, you should still have a website, if only for the online presence.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
In business , image is everything .
The appearance of " johnd @ companywebsite.com " is far more professional than that of @ hotmail , @ gmail or even @ isp ( perhaps especially @ isp , as it shows you 're too cheap or lazy to setup a better email address for yourself ) .
OK , what if you do n't have a website ?
We 're a decade into the new millennium .
Even if you do n't expect to make online sales or attract new customers online , you should still have a website , if only for the online presence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
In business, image is everything.
The appearance of "johnd@companywebsite.com" is far more professional than that of @hotmail, @gmail or even @isp (perhaps especially @isp, as it shows you're too cheap or lazy to setup a better email address for yourself).
OK, what if you don't have a website?
We're a decade into the new millennium.
Even if you don't expect to make online sales or attract new customers online, you should still have a website, if only for the online presence.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724992</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263233940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You say "most lawyers" and give one example? That's like saying most IT people are geeks with no social life or skills and act as if they're god's gift to the world compared to other social groups like lawyers (sadly, a description of many people on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. ) I used to test proctor for exams at my college, one of the more common exams we gave out was for lawyers, the people taking the test was as diverse as can be, some had sandals on, some came in a tshirt and jeans, some had a dress shirt on, rarely would one be well dressed in a suit. In fact it looked alot like medical exams, general exams, even the ged exams. If you take a step back and look at the posts on this very page you may get the idea that "IT people are some of the most unreasonable on the planet" I would be willing to bet money at least one person has suggested that having a @aol.com address should be punishable by death, or represents someone who is unworthy of contributing to society or some other exaggerated nonsense.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You say " most lawyers " and give one example ?
That 's like saying most IT people are geeks with no social life or skills and act as if they 're god 's gift to the world compared to other social groups like lawyers ( sadly , a description of many people on / .
) I used to test proctor for exams at my college , one of the more common exams we gave out was for lawyers , the people taking the test was as diverse as can be , some had sandals on , some came in a tshirt and jeans , some had a dress shirt on , rarely would one be well dressed in a suit .
In fact it looked alot like medical exams , general exams , even the ged exams .
If you take a step back and look at the posts on this very page you may get the idea that " IT people are some of the most unreasonable on the planet " I would be willing to bet money at least one person has suggested that having a @ aol.com address should be punishable by death , or represents someone who is unworthy of contributing to society or some other exaggerated nonsense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You say "most lawyers" and give one example?
That's like saying most IT people are geeks with no social life or skills and act as if they're god's gift to the world compared to other social groups like lawyers (sadly, a description of many people on /.
) I used to test proctor for exams at my college, one of the more common exams we gave out was for lawyers, the people taking the test was as diverse as can be, some had sandals on, some came in a tshirt and jeans, some had a dress shirt on, rarely would one be well dressed in a suit.
In fact it looked alot like medical exams, general exams, even the ged exams.
If you take a step back and look at the posts on this very page you may get the idea that "IT people are some of the most unreasonable on the planet" I would be willing to bet money at least one person has suggested that having a @aol.com address should be punishable by death, or represents someone who is unworthy of contributing to society or some other exaggerated nonsense.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725146</id>
	<title>Really?</title>
	<author>Kc\_spot</author>
	<datestamp>1263234480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why Should it matter if you got a aol address vs a gmail or yahoo? I mean as long as it's not ima@dumbass.com you should be fine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why Should it matter if you got a aol address vs a gmail or yahoo ?
I mean as long as it 's not ima @ dumbass.com you should be fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why Should it matter if you got a aol address vs a gmail or yahoo?
I mean as long as it's not ima@dumbass.com you should be fine.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725170</id>
	<title>Compuserve email would be hilarious</title>
	<author>rosasaul</author>
	<datestamp>1263234600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A compusurve email address would be hilarious but I don't think I'd ever use it professionally, though I would most certainly give it out to all my "tech" friends if nothing else than to get reactions from them every time they had to use it. AOL email on the other hand hasn't quite reached that status (mainly because they're still in business).

A yahoo address is acceptable, but I always question why they don't have a gmail account.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A compusurve email address would be hilarious but I do n't think I 'd ever use it professionally , though I would most certainly give it out to all my " tech " friends if nothing else than to get reactions from them every time they had to use it .
AOL email on the other hand has n't quite reached that status ( mainly because they 're still in business ) .
A yahoo address is acceptable , but I always question why they do n't have a gmail account .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A compusurve email address would be hilarious but I don't think I'd ever use it professionally, though I would most certainly give it out to all my "tech" friends if nothing else than to get reactions from them every time they had to use it.
AOL email on the other hand hasn't quite reached that status (mainly because they're still in business).
A yahoo address is acceptable, but I always question why they don't have a gmail account.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724584</id>
	<title>Hell yes</title>
	<author>roc97007</author>
	<datestamp>1263232440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
If someone is applying for an IT job, an AOL address tells me something about their background and their degree of technical savvy.  If it's not an IT job, it doesn't really matter.  We can't all be geeks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If someone is applying for an IT job , an AOL address tells me something about their background and their degree of technical savvy .
If it 's not an IT job , it does n't really matter .
We ca n't all be geeks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
If someone is applying for an IT job, an AOL address tells me something about their background and their degree of technical savvy.
If it's not an IT job, it doesn't really matter.
We can't all be geeks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722282</id>
	<title>Email addresses reveal a lot about the applicant</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263221280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah I had to hire someone for the first time a few months ago. The first filter I applied to the hundred of CVs we got was email addresses, locations etc. It is very easy as it is usual at the top of the CV so it is easy to throw out people with unprofessional emails or people who live to far away.

Assuming the job application is for a technical role then I dont buy the concept of unfair. Since it is an IT job then one of the criterias I have is that my technicans should at least be clever enough to realise how bad AOLs service is and not use them. Do I want a technican who builds personalised networks for our customers if he chooses himself by choice to use AOL? Probably not.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah I had to hire someone for the first time a few months ago .
The first filter I applied to the hundred of CVs we got was email addresses , locations etc .
It is very easy as it is usual at the top of the CV so it is easy to throw out people with unprofessional emails or people who live to far away .
Assuming the job application is for a technical role then I dont buy the concept of unfair .
Since it is an IT job then one of the criterias I have is that my technicans should at least be clever enough to realise how bad AOLs service is and not use them .
Do I want a technican who builds personalised networks for our customers if he chooses himself by choice to use AOL ?
Probably not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah I had to hire someone for the first time a few months ago.
The first filter I applied to the hundred of CVs we got was email addresses, locations etc.
It is very easy as it is usual at the top of the CV so it is easy to throw out people with unprofessional emails or people who live to far away.
Assuming the job application is for a technical role then I dont buy the concept of unfair.
Since it is an IT job then one of the criterias I have is that my technicans should at least be clever enough to realise how bad AOLs service is and not use them.
Do I want a technican who builds personalised networks for our customers if he chooses himself by choice to use AOL?
Probably not.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722362</id>
	<title>No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263221760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was asked in a job interview recently that why, despite owning the domain name of my actual name, I was using a Windows Live email address. My answer was;</p><p>I have a reasonably long surname, so I don't use that domain name for email. Instead, I use my @live.com address because it's a lot shorter and rolls of the tongue better.</p><p>I was offered the job (I'd assume on other merits). Clearly it doesn't make that much difference. I suppose if my address was x\_2\_hawt\_4\_u\_2007\_x@hotmail.com there might have been a problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was asked in a job interview recently that why , despite owning the domain name of my actual name , I was using a Windows Live email address .
My answer was ; I have a reasonably long surname , so I do n't use that domain name for email .
Instead , I use my @ live.com address because it 's a lot shorter and rolls of the tongue better.I was offered the job ( I 'd assume on other merits ) .
Clearly it does n't make that much difference .
I suppose if my address was x \ _2 \ _hawt \ _4 \ _u \ _2007 \ _x @ hotmail.com there might have been a problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was asked in a job interview recently that why, despite owning the domain name of my actual name, I was using a Windows Live email address.
My answer was;I have a reasonably long surname, so I don't use that domain name for email.
Instead, I use my @live.com address because it's a lot shorter and rolls of the tongue better.I was offered the job (I'd assume on other merits).
Clearly it doesn't make that much difference.
I suppose if my address was x\_2\_hawt\_4\_u\_2007\_x@hotmail.com there might have been a problem.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725770</id>
	<title>Re:It does say something ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263237000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and their computer will probably generate an ad for monster.com. That&rsquo;s hardly scary.</p><p>I&rsquo;m less worried about one of Gmail&rsquo;s computers knowing I&rsquo;m looking for a job than I would be about, say, a human in the IT department of my current employer knowing that.</p><p>(Note to the IT department: This was a completely hypothetical scenario. I&rsquo;m not looking for a job.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and their computer will probably generate an ad for monster.com .
That    s hardly scary.I    m less worried about one of Gmail    s computers knowing I    m looking for a job than I would be about , say , a human in the IT department of my current employer knowing that .
( Note to the IT department : This was a completely hypothetical scenario .
I    m not looking for a job .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and their computer will probably generate an ad for monster.com.
That’s hardly scary.I’m less worried about one of Gmail’s computers knowing I’m looking for a job than I would be about, say, a human in the IT department of my current employer knowing that.
(Note to the IT department: This was a completely hypothetical scenario.
I’m not looking for a job.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722920</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722770</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>forand</author>
	<datestamp>1263223500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did he also fix the transposition? laywer!=lawyer</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did he also fix the transposition ?
laywer ! = lawyer</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did he also fix the transposition?
laywer!=lawyer</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722640</id>
	<title>Yup</title>
	<author>Xadnem</author>
	<datestamp>1263222960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, it would and it has.  If you're dealing with 50+ resumes, any little thing like that helps reduce the pile.  Unfair, perhaps, but if someone's supposed to be on good behavior, presenting their best face, and don't know better than to use, 'jedimaster@', how serious are clients going to take them?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , it would and it has .
If you 're dealing with 50 + resumes , any little thing like that helps reduce the pile .
Unfair , perhaps , but if someone 's supposed to be on good behavior , presenting their best face , and do n't know better than to use , 'jedimaster @ ' , how serious are clients going to take them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, it would and it has.
If you're dealing with 50+ resumes, any little thing like that helps reduce the pile.
Unfair, perhaps, but if someone's supposed to be on good behavior, presenting their best face, and don't know better than to use, 'jedimaster@', how serious are clients going to take them?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722572</id>
	<title>I would hold it against someone</title>
	<author>digitalgimpus</author>
	<datestamp>1263222660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would hold it against someone... in my mind it makes sense:

Your either paying for AOL while using a broadband service, which suggests your wasteful and not very good at managing money, or using dialup which suggest you lack internet knowledge and experience necessary today.

And regardless of your email provider, if your using something other than your name... you fail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would hold it against someone... in my mind it makes sense : Your either paying for AOL while using a broadband service , which suggests your wasteful and not very good at managing money , or using dialup which suggest you lack internet knowledge and experience necessary today .
And regardless of your email provider , if your using something other than your name... you fail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would hold it against someone... in my mind it makes sense:

Your either paying for AOL while using a broadband service, which suggests your wasteful and not very good at managing money, or using dialup which suggest you lack internet knowledge and experience necessary today.
And regardless of your email provider, if your using something other than your name... you fail.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724018</id>
	<title>Oh hell yes</title>
	<author>BlortHorc</author>
	<datestamp>1263229680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Speaking as someone who has seen the horror that is lollypopporn@hotmail.com and pornstargunnabe@hotmail.com, I can tell you that some email addresses really don't belong on any kind of job app.</p><p>On the flip side, I tend to treat people who have @gmail.com pretty seriously, because hey, props to you for getting in early enough to get your name as a gmail account.</p><p>That said, I am probably going to give a name like john.cocktoasten@gmail.com a second glance.</p><p>If only at the bill.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Speaking as someone who has seen the horror that is lollypopporn @ hotmail.com and pornstargunnabe @ hotmail.com , I can tell you that some email addresses really do n't belong on any kind of job app.On the flip side , I tend to treat people who have @ gmail.com pretty seriously , because hey , props to you for getting in early enough to get your name as a gmail account.That said , I am probably going to give a name like john.cocktoasten @ gmail.com a second glance.If only at the bill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Speaking as someone who has seen the horror that is lollypopporn@hotmail.com and pornstargunnabe@hotmail.com, I can tell you that some email addresses really don't belong on any kind of job app.On the flip side, I tend to treat people who have @gmail.com pretty seriously, because hey, props to you for getting in early enough to get your name as a gmail account.That said, I am probably going to give a name like john.cocktoasten@gmail.com a second glance.If only at the bill.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723010</id>
	<title>Family Guy...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263224760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can reach me at han.solo@compuserve.net</p><p>Yes, I said CompuServe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can reach me at han.solo @ compuserve.netYes , I said CompuServe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can reach me at han.solo@compuserve.netYes, I said CompuServe.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30728144</id>
	<title>Unfortunately, it does matter.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263202440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I actually knew a manager who didn't hire someone with good qualifications because their email address, listed on their resume, was 2sexy4u@.........</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually knew a manager who did n't hire someone with good qualifications because their email address , listed on their resume , was 2sexy4u @ ........ .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually knew a manager who didn't hire someone with good qualifications because their email address, listed on their resume, was 2sexy4u@.........</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725032</id>
	<title>Re:nicknames of the upmodded comments so far:</title>
	<author>rwv</author>
	<datestamp>1263234060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
Seeking relative anonymity through a Slashdot username is one thing... seeking it through a job post is another.  As far as I know, there are no internet forums where most usernames strongly reflect real identities.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seeking relative anonymity through a Slashdot username is one thing... seeking it through a job post is another .
As far as I know , there are no internet forums where most usernames strongly reflect real identities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Seeking relative anonymity through a Slashdot username is one thing... seeking it through a job post is another.
As far as I know, there are no internet forums where most usernames strongly reflect real identities.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30729220</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263206280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He would have to re-arrange the letters, too!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He would have to re-arrange the letters , too !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He would have to re-arrange the letters, too!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722008</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723692</id>
	<title>Re:Aol is one thing but a @hotmail?</title>
	<author>colinrichardday</author>
	<datestamp>1263228120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am not a rampant Microsoft fanboy, you insensitive clod! Are you suggesting I use my gmail or Comcast mail address instead?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am not a rampant Microsoft fanboy , you insensitive clod !
Are you suggesting I use my gmail or Comcast mail address instead ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am not a rampant Microsoft fanboy, you insensitive clod!
Are you suggesting I use my gmail or Comcast mail address instead?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724378</id>
	<title>Re:Username matters too</title>
	<author>yuhong</author>
	<datestamp>1263231660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> ("Proficient in C, C+, and C++" is a gem that springs to mind)</p></div><p>Note here that while indeed C+ do not exist, there is an actual programming language named <a href="http://www.cminusminus.org/" title="cminusminus.org" rel="nofollow">C--</a> [cminusminus.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( " Proficient in C , C + , and C + + " is a gem that springs to mind ) Note here that while indeed C + do not exist , there is an actual programming language named C-- [ cminusminus.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ("Proficient in C, C+, and C++" is a gem that springs to mind)Note here that while indeed C+ do not exist, there is an actual programming language named C-- [cminusminus.org]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722122</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30735222</id>
	<title>Re:Absolutely not.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263298800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Are you going to check also if they are using an iPhone or not? The kind of car they drive? The newspapers they read?</p></div><p>Assuming a job interview: Yes(No), yes, yes. If you use an IPhone I would ask you why during the Interview - how you answer could be very telling. We do not have room for people that buy inyto hypes, but we do have room for people that see the reasons for a hype. Not using an IPhone does not tell me anything, that might be because you simply can't afford one.<br>If you show up in an SUV or Sports Car it tells me something about a) an Ego problem or b) You simply like cars / need that car for a reason you can hopefully tell me during the interview. But be assured that I will check for the first possible reason, too.<br>And if you show up with the SUN (or here in Germany the BILD), I <b>will</b> hold that against you. Reading that stuff is just outright dumb.</p><p>AC for very obvious reasons...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you going to check also if they are using an iPhone or not ?
The kind of car they drive ?
The newspapers they read ? Assuming a job interview : Yes ( No ) , yes , yes .
If you use an IPhone I would ask you why during the Interview - how you answer could be very telling .
We do not have room for people that buy inyto hypes , but we do have room for people that see the reasons for a hype .
Not using an IPhone does not tell me anything , that might be because you simply ca n't afford one.If you show up in an SUV or Sports Car it tells me something about a ) an Ego problem or b ) You simply like cars / need that car for a reason you can hopefully tell me during the interview .
But be assured that I will check for the first possible reason , too.And if you show up with the SUN ( or here in Germany the BILD ) , I will hold that against you .
Reading that stuff is just outright dumb.AC for very obvious reasons.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you going to check also if they are using an iPhone or not?
The kind of car they drive?
The newspapers they read?Assuming a job interview: Yes(No), yes, yes.
If you use an IPhone I would ask you why during the Interview - how you answer could be very telling.
We do not have room for people that buy inyto hypes, but we do have room for people that see the reasons for a hype.
Not using an IPhone does not tell me anything, that might be because you simply can't afford one.If you show up in an SUV or Sports Car it tells me something about a) an Ego problem or b) You simply like cars / need that car for a reason you can hopefully tell me during the interview.
But be assured that I will check for the first possible reason, too.And if you show up with the SUN (or here in Germany the BILD), I will hold that against you.
Reading that stuff is just outright dumb.AC for very obvious reasons...
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722118</id>
	<title>Nobody takes any notice- anon@biggotsfortheKKK.com</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263220320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nobody judges me by my email address</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobody judges me by my email address</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobody judges me by my email address</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722190</id>
	<title>AOL address so bad it's good</title>
	<author>michaelmalak</author>
	<datestamp>1263220800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>AOL is such ancient history that an AOL address is no longer bad. In all seriousness, it says that the person values keeping in contact with people from the past, establishing relationships for the long-term, and thus that this is a trustworthy and established person.</htmltext>
<tokenext>AOL is such ancient history that an AOL address is no longer bad .
In all seriousness , it says that the person values keeping in contact with people from the past , establishing relationships for the long-term , and thus that this is a trustworthy and established person .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AOL is such ancient history that an AOL address is no longer bad.
In all seriousness, it says that the person values keeping in contact with people from the past, establishing relationships for the long-term, and thus that this is a trustworthy and established person.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723536</id>
	<title>it only maters so much</title>
	<author>ArcadeX</author>
	<datestamp>1263227400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have reseller accounts at some of the larger hosting companies, and manage a lot of domains on the internet, i still use gmail accounts. i actually have several different accounts, most of them forwarding, and with rules setup to star emails sent to other accounts, etc, but i've never cared enough to get my own domain just for me, as a place to store my resume... I will say that when i've applied for jobs, I tend to take the application less seriously when its going to an aol account..</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have reseller accounts at some of the larger hosting companies , and manage a lot of domains on the internet , i still use gmail accounts .
i actually have several different accounts , most of them forwarding , and with rules setup to star emails sent to other accounts , etc , but i 've never cared enough to get my own domain just for me , as a place to store my resume... I will say that when i 've applied for jobs , I tend to take the application less seriously when its going to an aol account. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have reseller accounts at some of the larger hosting companies, and manage a lot of domains on the internet, i still use gmail accounts.
i actually have several different accounts, most of them forwarding, and with rules setup to star emails sent to other accounts, etc, but i've never cared enough to get my own domain just for me, as a place to store my resume... I will say that when i've applied for jobs, I tend to take the application less seriously when its going to an aol account..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724310</id>
	<title>Re:I don't think it will cost you a job.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263231240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think individuals need to avoid free e-mail service providers. They just make sense, and unfortunately the reasonable names on those are all gone now.</p><p>However, if you're handing out your business card for your company, you're the company owner, and you have a hotmail.com or aol.com address? Yeah, you're cheap and unprofessional. At least get your own domain and host e-mail there. It really doesn't cost that much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think individuals need to avoid free e-mail service providers .
They just make sense , and unfortunately the reasonable names on those are all gone now.However , if you 're handing out your business card for your company , you 're the company owner , and you have a hotmail.com or aol.com address ?
Yeah , you 're cheap and unprofessional .
At least get your own domain and host e-mail there .
It really does n't cost that much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think individuals need to avoid free e-mail service providers.
They just make sense, and unfortunately the reasonable names on those are all gone now.However, if you're handing out your business card for your company, you're the company owner, and you have a hotmail.com or aol.com address?
Yeah, you're cheap and unprofessional.
At least get your own domain and host e-mail there.
It really doesn't cost that much.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722060</id>
	<title>Depends</title>
	<author>bsDaemon</author>
	<datestamp>1263219960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If I were hiring for some non-tech position then no, it wouldn't really matter.  However, if I were looking to hire on a developer or admin then someone with their own domain, @cpan.org or some other project-related domain email address, etc, would signify someone who isn't just interested in a "career change" and thinks that "IT" is "easy" or "stable" 'cause they remember the bubble days of people getting money hand-over-fist with any sort of qualification at all.<br><br>But, as other said, its really the username that's important.  I've had all kinds of ridiculous, throw-away email addresses in my day that had "cool" names.  However, when I got my Gmail account back in the day (2003 or 2004 I think?), I picked my first two initials and my last name, as I was about half way through college at that point and figured that I needed a "respectable" email address along side my school email, which was first initial and last name @ my school.<br><br>My personal account on my own domain is middle name@14thanddock.com, and then I have other 'dumping' accounts, such as the one that my @cpan.org address gets forwarded to, and one that I use when I sign up for things that I know are going to keep sending me crap email that I don't want pushed to BlackBerry.<br><br>I know that its fashionable, especially in geek communities, to say that what other people think of you shouldn't matter and your work should speak for itself.  Unfortunately that's not how most people work and in reality what other people think of you is approaches being the ONLY thing that matters.  Having some suggestive pledge nickname on a domain with a bad reputation isn't doing you any favors and you know it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I were hiring for some non-tech position then no , it would n't really matter .
However , if I were looking to hire on a developer or admin then someone with their own domain , @ cpan.org or some other project-related domain email address , etc , would signify someone who is n't just interested in a " career change " and thinks that " IT " is " easy " or " stable " 'cause they remember the bubble days of people getting money hand-over-fist with any sort of qualification at all.But , as other said , its really the username that 's important .
I 've had all kinds of ridiculous , throw-away email addresses in my day that had " cool " names .
However , when I got my Gmail account back in the day ( 2003 or 2004 I think ?
) , I picked my first two initials and my last name , as I was about half way through college at that point and figured that I needed a " respectable " email address along side my school email , which was first initial and last name @ my school.My personal account on my own domain is middle name @ 14thanddock.com , and then I have other 'dumping ' accounts , such as the one that my @ cpan.org address gets forwarded to , and one that I use when I sign up for things that I know are going to keep sending me crap email that I do n't want pushed to BlackBerry.I know that its fashionable , especially in geek communities , to say that what other people think of you should n't matter and your work should speak for itself .
Unfortunately that 's not how most people work and in reality what other people think of you is approaches being the ONLY thing that matters .
Having some suggestive pledge nickname on a domain with a bad reputation is n't doing you any favors and you know it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I were hiring for some non-tech position then no, it wouldn't really matter.
However, if I were looking to hire on a developer or admin then someone with their own domain, @cpan.org or some other project-related domain email address, etc, would signify someone who isn't just interested in a "career change" and thinks that "IT" is "easy" or "stable" 'cause they remember the bubble days of people getting money hand-over-fist with any sort of qualification at all.But, as other said, its really the username that's important.
I've had all kinds of ridiculous, throw-away email addresses in my day that had "cool" names.
However, when I got my Gmail account back in the day (2003 or 2004 I think?
), I picked my first two initials and my last name, as I was about half way through college at that point and figured that I needed a "respectable" email address along side my school email, which was first initial and last name @ my school.My personal account on my own domain is middle name@14thanddock.com, and then I have other 'dumping' accounts, such as the one that my @cpan.org address gets forwarded to, and one that I use when I sign up for things that I know are going to keep sending me crap email that I don't want pushed to BlackBerry.I know that its fashionable, especially in geek communities, to say that what other people think of you shouldn't matter and your work should speak for itself.
Unfortunately that's not how most people work and in reality what other people think of you is approaches being the ONLY thing that matters.
Having some suggestive pledge nickname on a domain with a bad reputation isn't doing you any favors and you know it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722682</id>
	<title>Re:Username matters too</title>
	<author>Mr\_Plattz</author>
	<datestamp>1263223200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So <i>FML${Surname}@domain.com</i> is acceptable these days?  Jeez times have changed!</htmltext>
<tokenext>So FML $ { Surname } @ domain.com is acceptable these days ?
Jeez times have changed !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So FML${Surname}@domain.com is acceptable these days?
Jeez times have changed!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722944</id>
	<title>I'm sure it matters</title>
	<author>grizdog</author>
	<datestamp>1263224400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ever been to the post office in Princeton, NJ, or the Southeastern Pennsylvania mail facility, which has an address of Valley Forge (even though it's in King of Prussia)?  They have a ridiculous number of PO boxes - people want those addresses, they just sound so much better than Cranbury or Freehold or Conshohoken.</p><p>With email addresses, there is a difference - a vanity PO box tells me that the person may be willing to waste time and money to use that address, with an email address it's different, and depends on the address.  With AOL, it tells me that you (someone) decided a long time ago that you needed some sort of net presence, had a CD that AOL had sent you and put in the computer, and since it worked, never looked back.  It tells me that at least you don't put much effort into your net presence, and probably don't use it very effectively.  That wouldn't be a problem for me if you were running a car repair shop, it would if you were selling me anything that had some direct relationship to communications.</p><p>Other addresses provoke different, mostly negative, reactions.  pigsticker72@earthlink.net doesn't make me any more comfortable than RushDittoHead@hotmail.com - both make me want to run the other way.</p><p>It's become so easy to have your web address and mailbox have the same domain, one has to wonder about people who don't bother - is the rest of the office a mess?  And domains are cheap, and easy to register.  Not having time or claiming not enough savvy makes you look lazy and dumb.</p><p>Sorry.  That's what I see</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ever been to the post office in Princeton , NJ , or the Southeastern Pennsylvania mail facility , which has an address of Valley Forge ( even though it 's in King of Prussia ) ?
They have a ridiculous number of PO boxes - people want those addresses , they just sound so much better than Cranbury or Freehold or Conshohoken.With email addresses , there is a difference - a vanity PO box tells me that the person may be willing to waste time and money to use that address , with an email address it 's different , and depends on the address .
With AOL , it tells me that you ( someone ) decided a long time ago that you needed some sort of net presence , had a CD that AOL had sent you and put in the computer , and since it worked , never looked back .
It tells me that at least you do n't put much effort into your net presence , and probably do n't use it very effectively .
That would n't be a problem for me if you were running a car repair shop , it would if you were selling me anything that had some direct relationship to communications.Other addresses provoke different , mostly negative , reactions .
pigsticker72 @ earthlink.net does n't make me any more comfortable than RushDittoHead @ hotmail.com - both make me want to run the other way.It 's become so easy to have your web address and mailbox have the same domain , one has to wonder about people who do n't bother - is the rest of the office a mess ?
And domains are cheap , and easy to register .
Not having time or claiming not enough savvy makes you look lazy and dumb.Sorry .
That 's what I see</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ever been to the post office in Princeton, NJ, or the Southeastern Pennsylvania mail facility, which has an address of Valley Forge (even though it's in King of Prussia)?
They have a ridiculous number of PO boxes - people want those addresses, they just sound so much better than Cranbury or Freehold or Conshohoken.With email addresses, there is a difference - a vanity PO box tells me that the person may be willing to waste time and money to use that address, with an email address it's different, and depends on the address.
With AOL, it tells me that you (someone) decided a long time ago that you needed some sort of net presence, had a CD that AOL had sent you and put in the computer, and since it worked, never looked back.
It tells me that at least you don't put much effort into your net presence, and probably don't use it very effectively.
That wouldn't be a problem for me if you were running a car repair shop, it would if you were selling me anything that had some direct relationship to communications.Other addresses provoke different, mostly negative, reactions.
pigsticker72@earthlink.net doesn't make me any more comfortable than RushDittoHead@hotmail.com - both make me want to run the other way.It's become so easy to have your web address and mailbox have the same domain, one has to wonder about people who don't bother - is the rest of the office a mess?
And domains are cheap, and easy to register.
Not having time or claiming not enough savvy makes you look lazy and dumb.Sorry.
That's what I see</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723740</id>
	<title>For CVs, yes it matters.  For work, even MORE!</title>
	<author>Roogna</author>
	<datestamp>1263228360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd say it definitely matters.  Though unlike some here, I wouldn't specifically toss your resume out because it comes from aol.com (msn &amp; hotmail though, I'd probably assume it's a spam mail and toss it.)  Free e-mail addresses are fine if you're out of work looking for a job.  Gmail is possibly always okay right now, though that's likely to change over the years if people start getting too much crap from such addresses.  And as many have said it's quite cheap to get your own domain to send e-mail, using any provider you actually want for the e-mail hosting.</p><p>Now, far more importantly though, if I'm a customer looking for someone to provide a professional service for me, then damn have your own domain.  Nothing will turn me away from a business faster than if they don't have a real e-mail address to reach them at.  Real estate agent?  Should have e-mail through your umbrella corp.  Lawyer?  Why isn't your e-mail from your law firms address.  Even little self employed groups, selling hand made soaps at the farmers market?  Get homemadesoaps.com or something and use it!  But a aol.com or hotmail.com address just screams scam when you're trying to buy something or get a service performed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd say it definitely matters .
Though unlike some here , I would n't specifically toss your resume out because it comes from aol.com ( msn &amp; hotmail though , I 'd probably assume it 's a spam mail and toss it .
) Free e-mail addresses are fine if you 're out of work looking for a job .
Gmail is possibly always okay right now , though that 's likely to change over the years if people start getting too much crap from such addresses .
And as many have said it 's quite cheap to get your own domain to send e-mail , using any provider you actually want for the e-mail hosting.Now , far more importantly though , if I 'm a customer looking for someone to provide a professional service for me , then damn have your own domain .
Nothing will turn me away from a business faster than if they do n't have a real e-mail address to reach them at .
Real estate agent ?
Should have e-mail through your umbrella corp. Lawyer ? Why is n't your e-mail from your law firms address .
Even little self employed groups , selling hand made soaps at the farmers market ?
Get homemadesoaps.com or something and use it !
But a aol.com or hotmail.com address just screams scam when you 're trying to buy something or get a service performed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd say it definitely matters.
Though unlike some here, I wouldn't specifically toss your resume out because it comes from aol.com (msn &amp; hotmail though, I'd probably assume it's a spam mail and toss it.
)  Free e-mail addresses are fine if you're out of work looking for a job.
Gmail is possibly always okay right now, though that's likely to change over the years if people start getting too much crap from such addresses.
And as many have said it's quite cheap to get your own domain to send e-mail, using any provider you actually want for the e-mail hosting.Now, far more importantly though, if I'm a customer looking for someone to provide a professional service for me, then damn have your own domain.
Nothing will turn me away from a business faster than if they don't have a real e-mail address to reach them at.
Real estate agent?
Should have e-mail through your umbrella corp.  Lawyer?  Why isn't your e-mail from your law firms address.
Even little self employed groups, selling hand made soaps at the farmers market?
Get homemadesoaps.com or something and use it!
But a aol.com or hotmail.com address just screams scam when you're trying to buy something or get a service performed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722240</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the new cool?</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1263221100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>lookatme@imsocoolihavemyowndomain.com</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>lookatme @ imsocoolihavemyowndomain.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>lookatme@imsocoolihavemyowndomain.com</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724264</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263230940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh yes - *everybody* MUST have a website to show they are a real techie!</p><p>How juvenile. Everybody and their dog can go spend $10 a year for a domain name, get some free hosting, throw some HTML on a website - maybe with some crap JavaScript on it, something like some stars following the mouse cursor around, and some background music (top it off with some flashing text and a tiled background pic of their cat - with a link to their cat's website). Yeah, that tells me they are sooo "leet"! Not.</p><p>Now if they have a simple email address 'firstname.lastname@anyplace.com" (not "leetHTMLDude1987@mystupiddomainname.com") and their resume looks good, I could care less whether they have their own website or not - especially if they can point me to commercial websites they have worked on that are well done. If I google their name (or email addy) and find nicely written articles or posts or comments (on a blog, in DevZone, wherever, it doesn't have to be their site) that give me an idea of what they know on a tech subject/issue, then that helps too. But I am not going to throw a resume in the trash because of the email address - I am not that stupid or juvenile as to judge someone on such a superficial aspect. I don't care where their email is hosted - that kind of thinking is like the script kiddies and gamers, etc., who go around dinging people for the operating system they run, or because they don't have a liquid cooled super over clocked machine, but could write a good client/server app if their life depended on it.</p><p>Personally, I have half a dozen email addys. One at gmail (first and last name) for professional contacts as it is unlikely google will go away anytime soon. Other addys at my ISP for personal email and hobbies, etc.</p><p>If any employer thinks that I am not qualified for a position simply based on my email address, then yes, PLEASE do throw my resume in the bit bucket - I most certainly do NOT want to work for you. Thank you. Life is too short to work for or with such morons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh yes - * everybody * MUST have a website to show they are a real techie ! How juvenile .
Everybody and their dog can go spend $ 10 a year for a domain name , get some free hosting , throw some HTML on a website - maybe with some crap JavaScript on it , something like some stars following the mouse cursor around , and some background music ( top it off with some flashing text and a tiled background pic of their cat - with a link to their cat 's website ) .
Yeah , that tells me they are sooo " leet " !
Not.Now if they have a simple email address 'firstname.lastname @ anyplace.com " ( not " leetHTMLDude1987 @ mystupiddomainname.com " ) and their resume looks good , I could care less whether they have their own website or not - especially if they can point me to commercial websites they have worked on that are well done .
If I google their name ( or email addy ) and find nicely written articles or posts or comments ( on a blog , in DevZone , wherever , it does n't have to be their site ) that give me an idea of what they know on a tech subject/issue , then that helps too .
But I am not going to throw a resume in the trash because of the email address - I am not that stupid or juvenile as to judge someone on such a superficial aspect .
I do n't care where their email is hosted - that kind of thinking is like the script kiddies and gamers , etc. , who go around dinging people for the operating system they run , or because they do n't have a liquid cooled super over clocked machine , but could write a good client/server app if their life depended on it.Personally , I have half a dozen email addys .
One at gmail ( first and last name ) for professional contacts as it is unlikely google will go away anytime soon .
Other addys at my ISP for personal email and hobbies , etc.If any employer thinks that I am not qualified for a position simply based on my email address , then yes , PLEASE do throw my resume in the bit bucket - I most certainly do NOT want to work for you .
Thank you .
Life is too short to work for or with such morons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh yes - *everybody* MUST have a website to show they are a real techie!How juvenile.
Everybody and their dog can go spend $10 a year for a domain name, get some free hosting, throw some HTML on a website - maybe with some crap JavaScript on it, something like some stars following the mouse cursor around, and some background music (top it off with some flashing text and a tiled background pic of their cat - with a link to their cat's website).
Yeah, that tells me they are sooo "leet"!
Not.Now if they have a simple email address 'firstname.lastname@anyplace.com" (not "leetHTMLDude1987@mystupiddomainname.com") and their resume looks good, I could care less whether they have their own website or not - especially if they can point me to commercial websites they have worked on that are well done.
If I google their name (or email addy) and find nicely written articles or posts or comments (on a blog, in DevZone, wherever, it doesn't have to be their site) that give me an idea of what they know on a tech subject/issue, then that helps too.
But I am not going to throw a resume in the trash because of the email address - I am not that stupid or juvenile as to judge someone on such a superficial aspect.
I don't care where their email is hosted - that kind of thinking is like the script kiddies and gamers, etc., who go around dinging people for the operating system they run, or because they don't have a liquid cooled super over clocked machine, but could write a good client/server app if their life depended on it.Personally, I have half a dozen email addys.
One at gmail (first and last name) for professional contacts as it is unlikely google will go away anytime soon.
Other addys at my ISP for personal email and hobbies, etc.If any employer thinks that I am not qualified for a position simply based on my email address, then yes, PLEASE do throw my resume in the bit bucket - I most certainly do NOT want to work for you.
Thank you.
Life is too short to work for or with such morons.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723004</id>
	<title>It's Relative ...</title>
	<author>Herschel Cohen</author>
	<datestamp>1263224700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Know some one really smart person that you respect that used an AOL email address?  Just that one experience negates my dislike for AOL, hence, I lose my propensity to jump to a simplistic conclusion.  Moreover, some of the same people have found it effective for their needs.  Finally, who am I to judge.<br><br>A supposedly lame email address may not seem as dumb at some time in the future, if perhaps the company that has a theme of doing no evil decides it was mistaken.  Say we discover a &lt;i&gt;cloud&lt;/i&gt; over our heads, it knows many of our damaging secrets and we are blackmailed into doing its bidding.  Our formally generous hosts have other goals and are no longer the cool location for our correspondence.  It need not be the company alluded to that follows this path, any cloud would do.  However, in contrast just a Lame E-Mail Address would be much deferrable if only we had one to protect ourselves from our superficiality and self deluding knowledge.<br><br>It is so much easier to judge others on simple external signs and ignore the harder task of judging the value of the person.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Know some one really smart person that you respect that used an AOL email address ?
Just that one experience negates my dislike for AOL , hence , I lose my propensity to jump to a simplistic conclusion .
Moreover , some of the same people have found it effective for their needs .
Finally , who am I to judge.A supposedly lame email address may not seem as dumb at some time in the future , if perhaps the company that has a theme of doing no evil decides it was mistaken .
Say we discover a cloud over our heads , it knows many of our damaging secrets and we are blackmailed into doing its bidding .
Our formally generous hosts have other goals and are no longer the cool location for our correspondence .
It need not be the company alluded to that follows this path , any cloud would do .
However , in contrast just a Lame E-Mail Address would be much deferrable if only we had one to protect ourselves from our superficiality and self deluding knowledge.It is so much easier to judge others on simple external signs and ignore the harder task of judging the value of the person .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Know some one really smart person that you respect that used an AOL email address?
Just that one experience negates my dislike for AOL, hence, I lose my propensity to jump to a simplistic conclusion.
Moreover, some of the same people have found it effective for their needs.
Finally, who am I to judge.A supposedly lame email address may not seem as dumb at some time in the future, if perhaps the company that has a theme of doing no evil decides it was mistaken.
Say we discover a cloud over our heads, it knows many of our damaging secrets and we are blackmailed into doing its bidding.
Our formally generous hosts have other goals and are no longer the cool location for our correspondence.
It need not be the company alluded to that follows this path, any cloud would do.
However, in contrast just a Lame E-Mail Address would be much deferrable if only we had one to protect ourselves from our superficiality and self deluding knowledge.It is so much easier to judge others on simple external signs and ignore the harder task of judging the value of the person.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723200</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>eth1</author>
	<datestamp>1263225660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some people just like messing around with technology. Is a hobby "unnecessary technology?"</p><p>I certainly wouldn't toss a resume because they *didn't* have their own domain, but (for a tech job) I would probably be more likely to pay attention to those that did (especially if they're hosting their own, too). So, while I'm not necessarily ditching resumes because they don't have vanity domains, the end result is likely to be nearly the same as if I was.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some people just like messing around with technology .
Is a hobby " unnecessary technology ?
" I certainly would n't toss a resume because they * did n't * have their own domain , but ( for a tech job ) I would probably be more likely to pay attention to those that did ( especially if they 're hosting their own , too ) .
So , while I 'm not necessarily ditching resumes because they do n't have vanity domains , the end result is likely to be nearly the same as if I was .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some people just like messing around with technology.
Is a hobby "unnecessary technology?
"I certainly wouldn't toss a resume because they *didn't* have their own domain, but (for a tech job) I would probably be more likely to pay attention to those that did (especially if they're hosting their own, too).
So, while I'm not necessarily ditching resumes because they don't have vanity domains, the end result is likely to be nearly the same as if I was.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724772</id>
	<title>I'll slice this differently..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263233220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Businesses some times go to great pains to make sure everyone's external communications are all similar and consistent.   Mandatory signatures,  templates with logos and such,  clearly they think image matters and at some level it does so it does for individuals too..  How much, it's hard to say,  I can't say I've ever went from 'consider' to 'reject' because of his email provider..  I kind of think that kind of a decision would reflect more poorly on my and my company's decision making abilities than it actually did on the applicant.</p><p>So long as we're still using SMTP,  I still feel it's my obligation to point out how f-ed up the protocol is, point at the spam and the point out the lack of legitimate forwarding that all plague it.  I have an email acocunt that I've had for 15 years,  it's through an ISP that probably has bad karma with some (no, not AOL or anything like that)  and I pay something like $5 a month for their cheapest dialup service simply to keep the email address.   I've started moving to a different place but every time I get ready to cut off (gasp) earthlink,  I get some email from Fidelity about an account I didn't remember, or an email from an old friend or relative or something else that I'd like to continue to get and didn't remember or know to notify about the address change.</p><p>In addition to maybe using some encryption for privacy,  perhaps using TLS and CAs to help verify sending servers and maybe give us some edge or means to curb spam,  forwarding would be a tremendous asset to a new email protocol. Not simply forwarding to the new address, but a response to the sender's relay that had the new address and it could then correctly send the address and maybe automatically update an address book or send a note to the sender, or both.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Businesses some times go to great pains to make sure everyone 's external communications are all similar and consistent .
Mandatory signatures , templates with logos and such , clearly they think image matters and at some level it does so it does for individuals too.. How much , it 's hard to say , I ca n't say I 've ever went from 'consider ' to 'reject ' because of his email provider.. I kind of think that kind of a decision would reflect more poorly on my and my company 's decision making abilities than it actually did on the applicant.So long as we 're still using SMTP , I still feel it 's my obligation to point out how f-ed up the protocol is , point at the spam and the point out the lack of legitimate forwarding that all plague it .
I have an email acocunt that I 've had for 15 years , it 's through an ISP that probably has bad karma with some ( no , not AOL or anything like that ) and I pay something like $ 5 a month for their cheapest dialup service simply to keep the email address .
I 've started moving to a different place but every time I get ready to cut off ( gasp ) earthlink , I get some email from Fidelity about an account I did n't remember , or an email from an old friend or relative or something else that I 'd like to continue to get and did n't remember or know to notify about the address change.In addition to maybe using some encryption for privacy , perhaps using TLS and CAs to help verify sending servers and maybe give us some edge or means to curb spam , forwarding would be a tremendous asset to a new email protocol .
Not simply forwarding to the new address , but a response to the sender 's relay that had the new address and it could then correctly send the address and maybe automatically update an address book or send a note to the sender , or both .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Businesses some times go to great pains to make sure everyone's external communications are all similar and consistent.
Mandatory signatures,  templates with logos and such,  clearly they think image matters and at some level it does so it does for individuals too..  How much, it's hard to say,  I can't say I've ever went from 'consider' to 'reject' because of his email provider..  I kind of think that kind of a decision would reflect more poorly on my and my company's decision making abilities than it actually did on the applicant.So long as we're still using SMTP,  I still feel it's my obligation to point out how f-ed up the protocol is, point at the spam and the point out the lack of legitimate forwarding that all plague it.
I have an email acocunt that I've had for 15 years,  it's through an ISP that probably has bad karma with some (no, not AOL or anything like that)  and I pay something like $5 a month for their cheapest dialup service simply to keep the email address.
I've started moving to a different place but every time I get ready to cut off (gasp) earthlink,  I get some email from Fidelity about an account I didn't remember, or an email from an old friend or relative or something else that I'd like to continue to get and didn't remember or know to notify about the address change.In addition to maybe using some encryption for privacy,  perhaps using TLS and CAs to help verify sending servers and maybe give us some edge or means to curb spam,  forwarding would be a tremendous asset to a new email protocol.
Not simply forwarding to the new address, but a response to the sender's relay that had the new address and it could then correctly send the address and maybe automatically update an address book or send a note to the sender, or both.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723422</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1263226860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Okay look, web hosting with free domain registration is under ten bucks a month. If you don't have your own website, then you at least don't give a shit about the web. Given a choice between someone running their own site and someone who isn't, with no other differentiating factor, I'll take the website-managing nerd. I know from experience that people willing to do such things as a hobby are also willing to spend long hours when necessary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Okay look , web hosting with free domain registration is under ten bucks a month .
If you do n't have your own website , then you at least do n't give a shit about the web .
Given a choice between someone running their own site and someone who is n't , with no other differentiating factor , I 'll take the website-managing nerd .
I know from experience that people willing to do such things as a hobby are also willing to spend long hours when necessary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Okay look, web hosting with free domain registration is under ten bucks a month.
If you don't have your own website, then you at least don't give a shit about the web.
Given a choice between someone running their own site and someone who isn't, with no other differentiating factor, I'll take the website-managing nerd.
I know from experience that people willing to do such things as a hobby are also willing to spend long hours when necessary.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721960</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30734402</id>
	<title>Re:I once had a guy bring it up in an interview</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263288120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You obviously didn't bother to read their privacy statement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You obviously did n't bother to read their privacy statement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You obviously didn't bother to read their privacy statement.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721904</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725690</id>
	<title>Well it depends...</title>
	<author>semi-old-geek</author>
	<datestamp>1263236640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It depends on the position, for a programmer, we would figure he wouldn't know how to change it.
But for a sysadmin that's another story....
(Just kiddin, well almost).</htmltext>
<tokenext>It depends on the position , for a programmer , we would figure he would n't know how to change it .
But for a sysadmin that 's another story... . ( Just kiddin , well almost ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It depends on the position, for a programmer, we would figure he wouldn't know how to change it.
But for a sysadmin that's another story....
(Just kiddin, well almost).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726484</id>
	<title>In my case, I'd love to not allow AOL users...</title>
	<author>sirgoran</author>
	<datestamp>1263240240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I work with a merchandising company that hires people all over the U.S. to go into department stores and stock shelves for specific manufacturers. Once the employee finishes restocking a site, they log into an online system to file an online report. Of the over 400 people employed by my client, the people we routinely have problems with are the AOL users. Either due to stupidity of the employee, or because the AOL browser keeps changing and filters or blocks them from some aspect of the report.  Not to mention the problems sending email messages to AOL users, I'd love to force these folks to get a real ISP.
<br> <br>
On top of it all, trying to work with the tech support team at AOL makes it even worse.<br>
How the hell do you provide support to a system, if your stock answer is "I'm not sure how this works."
Either the email systems at AOL don't generate error messages or their staff is clueless, but trying to find out why a text only email was "blocked due to content" seems to confound them.<br> <br>
I for one would like to see AOL die once and for all.
<br> <br>-Goran</htmltext>
<tokenext>I work with a merchandising company that hires people all over the U.S. to go into department stores and stock shelves for specific manufacturers .
Once the employee finishes restocking a site , they log into an online system to file an online report .
Of the over 400 people employed by my client , the people we routinely have problems with are the AOL users .
Either due to stupidity of the employee , or because the AOL browser keeps changing and filters or blocks them from some aspect of the report .
Not to mention the problems sending email messages to AOL users , I 'd love to force these folks to get a real ISP .
On top of it all , trying to work with the tech support team at AOL makes it even worse .
How the hell do you provide support to a system , if your stock answer is " I 'm not sure how this works .
" Either the email systems at AOL do n't generate error messages or their staff is clueless , but trying to find out why a text only email was " blocked due to content " seems to confound them .
I for one would like to see AOL die once and for all .
-Goran</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work with a merchandising company that hires people all over the U.S. to go into department stores and stock shelves for specific manufacturers.
Once the employee finishes restocking a site, they log into an online system to file an online report.
Of the over 400 people employed by my client, the people we routinely have problems with are the AOL users.
Either due to stupidity of the employee, or because the AOL browser keeps changing and filters or blocks them from some aspect of the report.
Not to mention the problems sending email messages to AOL users, I'd love to force these folks to get a real ISP.
On top of it all, trying to work with the tech support team at AOL makes it even worse.
How the hell do you provide support to a system, if your stock answer is "I'm not sure how this works.
"
Either the email systems at AOL don't generate error messages or their staff is clueless, but trying to find out why a text only email was "blocked due to content" seems to confound them.
I for one would like to see AOL die once and for all.
-Goran</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726232</id>
	<title>Does it matter?</title>
	<author>changa</author>
	<datestamp>1263239280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt><br>&gt;&nbsp; 'If I do good work,' she asks, 'does my e-mail address really matter?'<br><br>Spoken like a lame aol user.</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt;   'If I do good work, ' she asks , 'does my e-mail address really matter ?
'Spoken like a lame aol user .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;  'If I do good work,' she asks, 'does my e-mail address really matter?
'Spoken like a lame aol user.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722764</id>
	<title>But AOL gives free IMAP...</title>
	<author>hyperz69</author>
	<datestamp>1263223500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use AOL for all my e-commerence and potential OMG I might get spammed communication. Nothing really WRONG with them. It's leave my gmail basically spamless. I tossed yahoo and hotmail long ago due to crappy archaic policies that limit your access to web only unless you pay them. *Yes Microsoft has pop3 access OHHHHH WOW POP3 in a world of imap... it would be like me bragging I just got a dial-up in a neighborhood full of DOCIS 3.0*<br>
<br>
Though I understand the reasoning. It's like "Dress like your ready to come to work and be promoted" and I do respect that. Though to delete it without even checking the resume inside? It would be like not even talking to the guy who showed up dressed nice but not suit and tying it. Let's be honest AOL has some stigmata but it's not like showing up to an interview in Flip Flops and a No Fat Chicks t-shirt<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;P<br>
<br>
Maybe if your a person, looking to see if the place your applying for is a bunch of jerks, then go ahead and use that AOL address. They delete your email without reading it maybe you didn't want to work there. The filtering can work both ways.<br>
<br>
Then again if your REALLY worried about this while job seeking. My advice is get an account on a domain you think would get you looked at. This doesn't cost THAT much *if anything at all* and then you can know you didn't get a call back because 7 years as Fry Chef at Burger Ranch doesn't qualify you to run a MySQL Database.<br>
<br>
P.S. I know I could do stuff like, run a server on my own pop addy. I could use my ISP email. I know I could do a million other things but let's face it these big companies are not likely going anywhere and its an easy thing to do.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use AOL for all my e-commerence and potential OMG I might get spammed communication .
Nothing really WRONG with them .
It 's leave my gmail basically spamless .
I tossed yahoo and hotmail long ago due to crappy archaic policies that limit your access to web only unless you pay them .
* Yes Microsoft has pop3 access OHHHHH WOW POP3 in a world of imap... it would be like me bragging I just got a dial-up in a neighborhood full of DOCIS 3.0 * Though I understand the reasoning .
It 's like " Dress like your ready to come to work and be promoted " and I do respect that .
Though to delete it without even checking the resume inside ?
It would be like not even talking to the guy who showed up dressed nice but not suit and tying it .
Let 's be honest AOL has some stigmata but it 's not like showing up to an interview in Flip Flops and a No Fat Chicks t-shirt ; P Maybe if your a person , looking to see if the place your applying for is a bunch of jerks , then go ahead and use that AOL address .
They delete your email without reading it maybe you did n't want to work there .
The filtering can work both ways .
Then again if your REALLY worried about this while job seeking .
My advice is get an account on a domain you think would get you looked at .
This does n't cost THAT much * if anything at all * and then you can know you did n't get a call back because 7 years as Fry Chef at Burger Ranch does n't qualify you to run a MySQL Database .
P.S. I know I could do stuff like , run a server on my own pop addy .
I could use my ISP email .
I know I could do a million other things but let 's face it these big companies are not likely going anywhere and its an easy thing to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use AOL for all my e-commerence and potential OMG I might get spammed communication.
Nothing really WRONG with them.
It's leave my gmail basically spamless.
I tossed yahoo and hotmail long ago due to crappy archaic policies that limit your access to web only unless you pay them.
*Yes Microsoft has pop3 access OHHHHH WOW POP3 in a world of imap... it would be like me bragging I just got a dial-up in a neighborhood full of DOCIS 3.0*

Though I understand the reasoning.
It's like "Dress like your ready to come to work and be promoted" and I do respect that.
Though to delete it without even checking the resume inside?
It would be like not even talking to the guy who showed up dressed nice but not suit and tying it.
Let's be honest AOL has some stigmata but it's not like showing up to an interview in Flip Flops and a No Fat Chicks t-shirt ;P

Maybe if your a person, looking to see if the place your applying for is a bunch of jerks, then go ahead and use that AOL address.
They delete your email without reading it maybe you didn't want to work there.
The filtering can work both ways.
Then again if your REALLY worried about this while job seeking.
My advice is get an account on a domain you think would get you looked at.
This doesn't cost THAT much *if anything at all* and then you can know you didn't get a call back because 7 years as Fry Chef at Burger Ranch doesn't qualify you to run a MySQL Database.
P.S. I know I could do stuff like, run a server on my own pop addy.
I could use my ISP email.
I know I could do a million other things but let's face it these big companies are not likely going anywhere and its an easy thing to do.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30727084</id>
	<title>Re:nicknames of the upmodded comments so far:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263242400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yes it is terrible to have a job where the employers are short sited and mindless in this economy, as opposed to being unemployed and unable to feed yourself and your family... sometimes in cases like this, its better to bite the bullet, and play the game, than it is to try to fight the system to win some mythical almost non-existent prize at the cost of personal stability, and your family.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yes it is terrible to have a job where the employers are short sited and mindless in this economy , as opposed to being unemployed and unable to feed yourself and your family... sometimes in cases like this , its better to bite the bullet , and play the game , than it is to try to fight the system to win some mythical almost non-existent prize at the cost of personal stability , and your family .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yes it is terrible to have a job where the employers are short sited and mindless in this economy, as opposed to being unemployed and unable to feed yourself and your family... sometimes in cases like this, its better to bite the bullet, and play the game, than it is to try to fight the system to win some mythical almost non-existent prize at the cost of personal stability, and your family.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722216</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725452</id>
	<title>Google Apps</title>
	<author>eldridgea</author>
	<datestamp>1263235560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use <a href="http://www.google.com/a" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">Google Apps for Your Domain</a> [google.com].<p>It's free and has all the benefits of Gmail without the downsides of running your own mail server. I use it for my business and it works great.</p><p>(Although honestly I just forward it to my regular Gmail account and use Gmail's "send from" feature.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Google Apps for Your Domain [ google.com ] .It 's free and has all the benefits of Gmail without the downsides of running your own mail server .
I use it for my business and it works great .
( Although honestly I just forward it to my regular Gmail account and use Gmail 's " send from " feature .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Google Apps for Your Domain [google.com].It's free and has all the benefits of Gmail without the downsides of running your own mail server.
I use it for my business and it works great.
(Although honestly I just forward it to my regular Gmail account and use Gmail's "send from" feature.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724904</id>
	<title>For politicians absolutely!</title>
	<author>phallstrom</author>
	<datestamp>1263233580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It doesn't bother me so much for job applicants -- It's less important than proper attire, etc.</p><p>But for politicians it is a definite black mark.  Especially when they have a professional domain name, but a hotmail/yahoo/aol -- yes, even gmail email address.  It tells me that they nor anyone on their staff is "with it" technically and to me that means they won't use technology appropriately during their term.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't bother me so much for job applicants -- It 's less important than proper attire , etc.But for politicians it is a definite black mark .
Especially when they have a professional domain name , but a hotmail/yahoo/aol -- yes , even gmail email address .
It tells me that they nor anyone on their staff is " with it " technically and to me that means they wo n't use technology appropriately during their term .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't bother me so much for job applicants -- It's less important than proper attire, etc.But for politicians it is a definite black mark.
Especially when they have a professional domain name, but a hotmail/yahoo/aol -- yes, even gmail email address.
It tells me that they nor anyone on their staff is "with it" technically and to me that means they won't use technology appropriately during their term.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722200</id>
	<title>my short story</title>
	<author>OrangeMonkey11</author>
	<datestamp>1263220860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>About three years ago while I was working for a small local consulting company; we have a client that we host emails for and they have an employee that absolutely love AOL and he refuses to use his company email account he prefer his personal AOL account.  To me this doesn&rsquo;t really show a whole lot of professionalism considering most every business now have their own email system in one form or another.<br>Even now working for a different company I still see individual using AOL or Hotmail even though they work for very well know and established companies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>About three years ago while I was working for a small local consulting company ; we have a client that we host emails for and they have an employee that absolutely love AOL and he refuses to use his company email account he prefer his personal AOL account .
To me this doesn    t really show a whole lot of professionalism considering most every business now have their own email system in one form or another.Even now working for a different company I still see individual using AOL or Hotmail even though they work for very well know and established companies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>About three years ago while I was working for a small local consulting company; we have a client that we host emails for and they have an employee that absolutely love AOL and he refuses to use his company email account he prefer his personal AOL account.
To me this doesn’t really show a whole lot of professionalism considering most every business now have their own email system in one form or another.Even now working for a different company I still see individual using AOL or Hotmail even though they work for very well know and established companies.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721938</id>
	<title>No more than...</title>
	<author>Dwonis</author>
	<datestamp>1263219420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>...say, a low Slashdot UID.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...say , a low Slashdot UID .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...say, a low Slashdot UID.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722398</id>
	<title>Interesting that some ad-supported Webmail...</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1263221940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...providers are "cool" while others are contemptible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...providers are " cool " while others are contemptible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...providers are "cool" while others are contemptible.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726682</id>
	<title>You are allowed more than one email address</title>
	<author>saiha</author>
	<datestamp>1263241140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This lady seems to think that if she gets a new email address, her old one is gone. Why not just phase the new address in with any new projects?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This lady seems to think that if she gets a new email address , her old one is gone .
Why not just phase the new address in with any new projects ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This lady seems to think that if she gets a new email address, her old one is gone.
Why not just phase the new address in with any new projects?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723094</id>
	<title>Well, It depends...</title>
	<author>Obstin8</author>
	<datestamp>1263225180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wouldn't let an AOL address bother me, but I once had a job candidate present his resume to me with his email address <strong>pimpboy@h*tm*il.com</strong> displayed prominently at the top. Needless to say...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't let an AOL address bother me , but I once had a job candidate present his resume to me with his email address pimpboy @ h * tm * il.com displayed prominently at the top .
Needless to say.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't let an AOL address bother me, but I once had a job candidate present his resume to me with his email address pimpboy@h*tm*il.com displayed prominently at the top.
Needless to say...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30733832</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263236220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Give the option, I think I'd prefer someone who isn't pointlessly squatting 5 domains just for fancy looking email addresses, thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Give the option , I think I 'd prefer someone who is n't pointlessly squatting 5 domains just for fancy looking email addresses , thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Give the option, I think I'd prefer someone who isn't pointlessly squatting 5 domains just for fancy looking email addresses, thanks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721856</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721922</id>
	<title>Re:yes</title>
	<author>Pharmboy</author>
	<datestamp>1263219360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is terrible that someone would judge others by something as simple as an email address.  Yet we all do it.  *@aol.com instantly kicks in my "dumbass...." reflex, and I'm sure it does for most other nerds.  Worse yet, can you image applying for an IT job with an aol email account?  Right or wrong, it would be looked down on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is terrible that someone would judge others by something as simple as an email address .
Yet we all do it .
* @ aol.com instantly kicks in my " dumbass.... " reflex , and I 'm sure it does for most other nerds .
Worse yet , can you image applying for an IT job with an aol email account ?
Right or wrong , it would be looked down on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is terrible that someone would judge others by something as simple as an email address.
Yet we all do it.
*@aol.com instantly kicks in my "dumbass...." reflex, and I'm sure it does for most other nerds.
Worse yet, can you image applying for an IT job with an aol email account?
Right or wrong, it would be looked down on.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721838</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725224</id>
	<title>I would NOT hire someone...</title>
	<author>flajann</author>
	<datestamp>1263234780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously, I would have reservations about hiring someone who had an AOL email address. Yahoo and GMail are fine. Personal domain name email address would be a plus. Email address at their current place of employment would be a bit off-putting, but tolerable.<p>

I just can't see sophisticated software engineers, DBAs, systems engineers, of anyone else in IT carrying an AOL email address with a straight face.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , I would have reservations about hiring someone who had an AOL email address .
Yahoo and GMail are fine .
Personal domain name email address would be a plus .
Email address at their current place of employment would be a bit off-putting , but tolerable .
I just ca n't see sophisticated software engineers , DBAs , systems engineers , of anyone else in IT carrying an AOL email address with a straight face .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, I would have reservations about hiring someone who had an AOL email address.
Yahoo and GMail are fine.
Personal domain name email address would be a plus.
Email address at their current place of employment would be a bit off-putting, but tolerable.
I just can't see sophisticated software engineers, DBAs, systems engineers, of anyone else in IT carrying an AOL email address with a straight face.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722756</id>
	<title>Spam filters.</title>
	<author>CountBrass</author>
	<datestamp>1263223440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It would make a difference for me as I have certain domains (.cn, aol.com, hotmail.com) blacklisted in my spam filters so it all gets discarded. I'd simply never see any email from here.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would make a difference for me as I have certain domains ( .cn , aol.com , hotmail.com ) blacklisted in my spam filters so it all gets discarded .
I 'd simply never see any email from here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would make a difference for me as I have certain domains (.cn, aol.com, hotmail.com) blacklisted in my spam filters so it all gets discarded.
I'd simply never see any email from here.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721972</id>
	<title>The answer is yes.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263219540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>@aol, @hotmail, @"your-ISP-issued-free-address" are all signs that you don't take the internet seriously.</p><p>But there is an actual practical reason to avoid @aol emails. The mask is banned in lots of places and/or added to spam filters to send the mail straight into the junk folder.</p><p>Gmail and Yahoo Mail are free. There is no longer an excuse to use outdated mail hosts like AOL because above anything else, it's the Scarlet Letter of the web.</p><p>Ok, one last metaphor -- having an AOL email is like wearing a fanny pack around your neck whilst surfing the interwebs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>@ aol , @ hotmail , @ " your-ISP-issued-free-address " are all signs that you do n't take the internet seriously.But there is an actual practical reason to avoid @ aol emails .
The mask is banned in lots of places and/or added to spam filters to send the mail straight into the junk folder.Gmail and Yahoo Mail are free .
There is no longer an excuse to use outdated mail hosts like AOL because above anything else , it 's the Scarlet Letter of the web.Ok , one last metaphor -- having an AOL email is like wearing a fanny pack around your neck whilst surfing the interwebs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>@aol, @hotmail, @"your-ISP-issued-free-address" are all signs that you don't take the internet seriously.But there is an actual practical reason to avoid @aol emails.
The mask is banned in lots of places and/or added to spam filters to send the mail straight into the junk folder.Gmail and Yahoo Mail are free.
There is no longer an excuse to use outdated mail hosts like AOL because above anything else, it's the Scarlet Letter of the web.Ok, one last metaphor -- having an AOL email is like wearing a fanny pack around your neck whilst surfing the interwebs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722626</id>
	<title>Well, sure it matters</title>
	<author>smchris</author>
	<datestamp>1263222960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's all about image.  Being lumped in with the "AOLers" in some people's minds is simply not a good thing.  Like a guy I know who thinks he's going to get business using a free website even when I tell him, "Dude, that's rank."</p><p>On the other hand, I was vain enough to keep my GEnie account [like CompuServe, kids] well into the 90s for the simple reason that I was enough of an early adopter to have my initials as my user name.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's all about image .
Being lumped in with the " AOLers " in some people 's minds is simply not a good thing .
Like a guy I know who thinks he 's going to get business using a free website even when I tell him , " Dude , that 's rank .
" On the other hand , I was vain enough to keep my GEnie account [ like CompuServe , kids ] well into the 90s for the simple reason that I was enough of an early adopter to have my initials as my user name .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's all about image.
Being lumped in with the "AOLers" in some people's minds is simply not a good thing.
Like a guy I know who thinks he's going to get business using a free website even when I tell him, "Dude, that's rank.
"On the other hand, I was vain enough to keep my GEnie account [like CompuServe, kids] well into the 90s for the simple reason that I was enough of an early adopter to have my initials as my user name.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30730574</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263211860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I totally agree with the "tech person + hotmail = absolutely not hired". Besides, checking my email on something like hotmail, with all the shitty layout, kiddie-ads, and dumbed down look makes me cringe. Finally, when friends of the nontechnical variety send me email from their hotmail accounts, there are these horrible and stupid ads about messenger and windows live at the bottom of the email. Yeah, very professional.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I totally agree with the " tech person + hotmail = absolutely not hired " .
Besides , checking my email on something like hotmail , with all the shitty layout , kiddie-ads , and dumbed down look makes me cringe .
Finally , when friends of the nontechnical variety send me email from their hotmail accounts , there are these horrible and stupid ads about messenger and windows live at the bottom of the email .
Yeah , very professional .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I totally agree with the "tech person + hotmail = absolutely not hired".
Besides, checking my email on something like hotmail, with all the shitty layout, kiddie-ads, and dumbed down look makes me cringe.
Finally, when friends of the nontechnical variety send me email from their hotmail accounts, there are these horrible and stupid ads about messenger and windows live at the bottom of the email.
Yeah, very professional.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721856</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722918</id>
	<title>She has a publicist...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263224160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does it strike anyone as odd that a person with a publicist would not care about her image?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it strike anyone as odd that a person with a publicist would not care about her image ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it strike anyone as odd that a person with a publicist would not care about her image?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722412</id>
	<title>People still use email?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263222000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Individual people still use email?  In this era of social networking, etc, I no longer use email for "personal" activities.</p><p>Folks whom don't "do social networks" generally also don't do email.</p><p>Some companies email me bills and statements.  I get email receipts.</p><p>I still read some mailing list daily digests by email.</p><p>Other than that, email is just for spam, and is treated as such.</p><p>Its out of date, and would be like listing my favorite usenet groups or my favorite CB channel (uh, meet me on 35 upper sideband, 10-4?) on my resume.</p><p>Every job I've gotten in the last decade or so has been thru people I already know... the resume is just for HR to file...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Individual people still use email ?
In this era of social networking , etc , I no longer use email for " personal " activities.Folks whom do n't " do social networks " generally also do n't do email.Some companies email me bills and statements .
I get email receipts.I still read some mailing list daily digests by email.Other than that , email is just for spam , and is treated as such.Its out of date , and would be like listing my favorite usenet groups or my favorite CB channel ( uh , meet me on 35 upper sideband , 10-4 ?
) on my resume.Every job I 've gotten in the last decade or so has been thru people I already know... the resume is just for HR to file.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Individual people still use email?
In this era of social networking, etc, I no longer use email for "personal" activities.Folks whom don't "do social networks" generally also don't do email.Some companies email me bills and statements.
I get email receipts.I still read some mailing list daily digests by email.Other than that, email is just for spam, and is treated as such.Its out of date, and would be like listing my favorite usenet groups or my favorite CB channel (uh, meet me on 35 upper sideband, 10-4?
) on my resume.Every job I've gotten in the last decade or so has been thru people I already know... the resume is just for HR to file...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724652</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>antdude</author>
	<datestamp>1263232800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why does that matter? I never had my own domains. I don't use AOL, Hotmail, etc. I wished I still had my unversity e-mail address, but they don't keep alumnus.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why does that matter ?
I never had my own domains .
I do n't use AOL , Hotmail , etc .
I wished I still had my unversity e-mail address , but they do n't keep alumnus .
: (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why does that matter?
I never had my own domains.
I don't use AOL, Hotmail, etc.
I wished I still had my unversity e-mail address, but they don't keep alumnus.
:(</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721856</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726814</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263241500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Blanket statements galore - Score:5, Interesting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Blanket statements galore - Score : 5 , Interesting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Blanket statements galore - Score:5, Interesting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722880</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725216</id>
	<title>Re:Username matters too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263234720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The hard part is to sign up an account with a username in that form. A lot of people have the same name and very often the username you wanted is already taken.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The hard part is to sign up an account with a username in that form .
A lot of people have the same name and very often the username you wanted is already taken .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The hard part is to sign up an account with a username in that form.
A lot of people have the same name and very often the username you wanted is already taken.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722122</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722716</id>
	<title>same as a phone number</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263223320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do some hiring and I notice strange email addresses but I don't really even give them a thought unless they're obscene.  I tend to look at it the same as a phone number.  To keep life easy you want to keep it the same unless you have a crazy ex-girlfriend that won't leave you alone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do some hiring and I notice strange email addresses but I do n't really even give them a thought unless they 're obscene .
I tend to look at it the same as a phone number .
To keep life easy you want to keep it the same unless you have a crazy ex-girlfriend that wo n't leave you alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do some hiring and I notice strange email addresses but I don't really even give them a thought unless they're obscene.
I tend to look at it the same as a phone number.
To keep life easy you want to keep it the same unless you have a crazy ex-girlfriend that won't leave you alone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30734512</id>
	<title>There is a name for this...</title>
	<author>drkim</author>
	<datestamp>1263289320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is not a new topic; having an AOL email was considered lame, even many years ago (back when AOL floppies blanketed the earth)
<br> <br>
Discriminating against someone this way even had a name: "Domainism."
<br> <br>
As to lame reasons not to hire someone - especially with the economy in the dumper - I would recommend removing ANYTHING from your resume' or e-mail address that could be a reason to drop you in the circular file. As so many of you pointed out, they have to triage that gigantic pile of resumes' down to a handful anyway, don't give them any excuse.
<br> <br>
In the "really bad hiring policies" dept. I applied for a tech/I.T. position once many years ago, and they requested a hand-written essay. (Wait for it!!!) After being turned down, a friend of mine on the 'inside' told me that they would do a hand-writing analysis on it to determine your 'quality.' I guess they felt this was more reliable than a palm reading...!</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not a new topic ; having an AOL email was considered lame , even many years ago ( back when AOL floppies blanketed the earth ) Discriminating against someone this way even had a name : " Domainism .
" As to lame reasons not to hire someone - especially with the economy in the dumper - I would recommend removing ANYTHING from your resume ' or e-mail address that could be a reason to drop you in the circular file .
As so many of you pointed out , they have to triage that gigantic pile of resumes ' down to a handful anyway , do n't give them any excuse .
In the " really bad hiring policies " dept .
I applied for a tech/I.T .
position once many years ago , and they requested a hand-written essay .
( Wait for it ! ! !
) After being turned down , a friend of mine on the 'inside ' told me that they would do a hand-writing analysis on it to determine your 'quality .
' I guess they felt this was more reliable than a palm reading... !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not a new topic; having an AOL email was considered lame, even many years ago (back when AOL floppies blanketed the earth)
 
Discriminating against someone this way even had a name: "Domainism.
"
 
As to lame reasons not to hire someone - especially with the economy in the dumper - I would recommend removing ANYTHING from your resume' or e-mail address that could be a reason to drop you in the circular file.
As so many of you pointed out, they have to triage that gigantic pile of resumes' down to a handful anyway, don't give them any excuse.
In the "really bad hiring policies" dept.
I applied for a tech/I.T.
position once many years ago, and they requested a hand-written essay.
(Wait for it!!!
) After being turned down, a friend of mine on the 'inside' told me that they would do a hand-writing analysis on it to determine your 'quality.
' I guess they felt this was more reliable than a palm reading...!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725230</id>
	<title>It's like clothes. . .</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263234840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am the person I am, and my clothes are just bits of cloth.  Fashion is for people who are willing to judge people on the superficial!</p><p>I had a HUGE problem with that concept for years and years.  consequently, I dressed like a highschool geek; conservative clothes I hoped looked professional enough to not get laughed at.  I'd never want to wear anything remotely out-landish or 'cool'.  Clothes had to work properly and protect me from the elements.  That's it.</p><p>Then I realized: "NO!  The body is like a <i>canvas.</i>  Who wants to look at boring paintings?  Fashion is fun!  It affects how people react to me!  Neat-o!"</p><p>Actually, that was more a forced recognition after one girlfriend had had enough of my bland &amp; safe attire and insisted that I look cool in the clothes I wore.  The thing which was so difficult at the time is that the entire world started to treat me with a LOT more respect when I dressed as directed.  The fact that girls took a great deal more interest in me was not an insignificant factor my being willing to explore the whole thing further.  Heck, peacocks have those ridiculous tails, right?</p><p>The big problem was overcoming the inherent shallowness of it all.  My original position was that clothes, beyond their protection-from-the-elements aspect, are a lie, at best an effective tool to manipulate people.  But then I realized, yeah, they're a lie, but they're also Body Art!  And that's great!  You don't need to shop at the popular stores; you can outfit yourself just as effectively, (if not more so), at the Salvation Army center.  And if I walk around with the intention of trying to bring a fun and bright piece of visual appeal into the world, then I can live with the whole clothing-as-manipulation thing quite happily.  And then a curious thing happened; I realized that it was not a manipulation at all; I really did feel like the clothes reflected who I was.</p><p>The fear and insecurity were gone, and the outward visual showed that quite honestly.  Interesting!</p><p>Out of all the things in my life which were difficult challenges, this one seems particularly ridiculous, but there it is.</p><p>Anyway. . .</p><p>So yeah, every outward aspect of your being which people can see and which you have control over, will shape the reactions you receive, and an email name is the same way.  A poorly selected email name will not serve you well; it's swimming against the popular tide without any need to do so.  People WILL judge you either positively or negatively, and so you need to take this into account in order to be effective in the world.  Rather than sweat over the unfairness of this, why not flip it on its ear and have some fun with it?  You don't have to think of it as a negative thing if that isn't your intention.</p><p>In the end, clean up your innards, banish fear, and then have your outward impression express who you really are.</p><p>It's okay for painters to paint pictures which give people a positive feeling.</p><p>-FL</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am the person I am , and my clothes are just bits of cloth .
Fashion is for people who are willing to judge people on the superficial ! I had a HUGE problem with that concept for years and years .
consequently , I dressed like a highschool geek ; conservative clothes I hoped looked professional enough to not get laughed at .
I 'd never want to wear anything remotely out-landish or 'cool' .
Clothes had to work properly and protect me from the elements .
That 's it.Then I realized : " NO !
The body is like a canvas .
Who wants to look at boring paintings ?
Fashion is fun !
It affects how people react to me !
Neat-o ! " Actually , that was more a forced recognition after one girlfriend had had enough of my bland &amp; safe attire and insisted that I look cool in the clothes I wore .
The thing which was so difficult at the time is that the entire world started to treat me with a LOT more respect when I dressed as directed .
The fact that girls took a great deal more interest in me was not an insignificant factor my being willing to explore the whole thing further .
Heck , peacocks have those ridiculous tails , right ? The big problem was overcoming the inherent shallowness of it all .
My original position was that clothes , beyond their protection-from-the-elements aspect , are a lie , at best an effective tool to manipulate people .
But then I realized , yeah , they 're a lie , but they 're also Body Art !
And that 's great !
You do n't need to shop at the popular stores ; you can outfit yourself just as effectively , ( if not more so ) , at the Salvation Army center .
And if I walk around with the intention of trying to bring a fun and bright piece of visual appeal into the world , then I can live with the whole clothing-as-manipulation thing quite happily .
And then a curious thing happened ; I realized that it was not a manipulation at all ; I really did feel like the clothes reflected who I was.The fear and insecurity were gone , and the outward visual showed that quite honestly .
Interesting ! Out of all the things in my life which were difficult challenges , this one seems particularly ridiculous , but there it is.Anyway .
. .So yeah , every outward aspect of your being which people can see and which you have control over , will shape the reactions you receive , and an email name is the same way .
A poorly selected email name will not serve you well ; it 's swimming against the popular tide without any need to do so .
People WILL judge you either positively or negatively , and so you need to take this into account in order to be effective in the world .
Rather than sweat over the unfairness of this , why not flip it on its ear and have some fun with it ?
You do n't have to think of it as a negative thing if that is n't your intention.In the end , clean up your innards , banish fear , and then have your outward impression express who you really are.It 's okay for painters to paint pictures which give people a positive feeling.-FL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am the person I am, and my clothes are just bits of cloth.
Fashion is for people who are willing to judge people on the superficial!I had a HUGE problem with that concept for years and years.
consequently, I dressed like a highschool geek; conservative clothes I hoped looked professional enough to not get laughed at.
I'd never want to wear anything remotely out-landish or 'cool'.
Clothes had to work properly and protect me from the elements.
That's it.Then I realized: "NO!
The body is like a canvas.
Who wants to look at boring paintings?
Fashion is fun!
It affects how people react to me!
Neat-o!"Actually, that was more a forced recognition after one girlfriend had had enough of my bland &amp; safe attire and insisted that I look cool in the clothes I wore.
The thing which was so difficult at the time is that the entire world started to treat me with a LOT more respect when I dressed as directed.
The fact that girls took a great deal more interest in me was not an insignificant factor my being willing to explore the whole thing further.
Heck, peacocks have those ridiculous tails, right?The big problem was overcoming the inherent shallowness of it all.
My original position was that clothes, beyond their protection-from-the-elements aspect, are a lie, at best an effective tool to manipulate people.
But then I realized, yeah, they're a lie, but they're also Body Art!
And that's great!
You don't need to shop at the popular stores; you can outfit yourself just as effectively, (if not more so), at the Salvation Army center.
And if I walk around with the intention of trying to bring a fun and bright piece of visual appeal into the world, then I can live with the whole clothing-as-manipulation thing quite happily.
And then a curious thing happened; I realized that it was not a manipulation at all; I really did feel like the clothes reflected who I was.The fear and insecurity were gone, and the outward visual showed that quite honestly.
Interesting!Out of all the things in my life which were difficult challenges, this one seems particularly ridiculous, but there it is.Anyway.
. .So yeah, every outward aspect of your being which people can see and which you have control over, will shape the reactions you receive, and an email name is the same way.
A poorly selected email name will not serve you well; it's swimming against the popular tide without any need to do so.
People WILL judge you either positively or negatively, and so you need to take this into account in order to be effective in the world.
Rather than sweat over the unfairness of this, why not flip it on its ear and have some fun with it?
You don't have to think of it as a negative thing if that isn't your intention.In the end, clean up your innards, banish fear, and then have your outward impression express who you really are.It's okay for painters to paint pictures which give people a positive feeling.-FL</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723358</id>
	<title>Re:nicknames of the upmodded comments so far:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263226500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe it's because you don't get hired as a doctor via email, broski.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe it 's because you do n't get hired as a doctor via email , broski .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe it's because you don't get hired as a doctor via email, broski.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722216</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722508</id>
	<title>jupp</title>
	<author>UnFaNa</author>
	<datestamp>1263222300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't help it...</p><p>I usually keep treating people with "infamous email domains" like children - at least unless they manage to prove they don't need to be "in time". Usually it just makes sense to tell "them" stuff. Like: "At least don't pay for a premium email account that - on top of it - sends you advertisements!". Or: "Don't put your finger into that hole, it might come out as a sausage at the other end if someone presses the wrong button!" in some cases.</p><p>Even if those are prejudice - those sometimes have a reason and make sense at least in my own personal "imaginary statistics". As in: There's a good chance, a person who is used to finding important stuff out on their own either would have found out that those email addresses "are bad" or that they shed a bad light on its user - and gotten a new one. Same goes for "people who are used to listening to good, sound advice instead of shiny adverts" and to some extend "people with common sense that are at least aware of it when they do something they don't understand and at some point start asking for help instead of messing up".</p><p>And stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't help it...I usually keep treating people with " infamous email domains " like children - at least unless they manage to prove they do n't need to be " in time " .
Usually it just makes sense to tell " them " stuff .
Like : " At least do n't pay for a premium email account that - on top of it - sends you advertisements ! " .
Or : " Do n't put your finger into that hole , it might come out as a sausage at the other end if someone presses the wrong button !
" in some cases.Even if those are prejudice - those sometimes have a reason and make sense at least in my own personal " imaginary statistics " .
As in : There 's a good chance , a person who is used to finding important stuff out on their own either would have found out that those email addresses " are bad " or that they shed a bad light on its user - and gotten a new one .
Same goes for " people who are used to listening to good , sound advice instead of shiny adverts " and to some extend " people with common sense that are at least aware of it when they do something they do n't understand and at some point start asking for help instead of messing up " .And stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't help it...I usually keep treating people with "infamous email domains" like children - at least unless they manage to prove they don't need to be "in time".
Usually it just makes sense to tell "them" stuff.
Like: "At least don't pay for a premium email account that - on top of it - sends you advertisements!".
Or: "Don't put your finger into that hole, it might come out as a sausage at the other end if someone presses the wrong button!
" in some cases.Even if those are prejudice - those sometimes have a reason and make sense at least in my own personal "imaginary statistics".
As in: There's a good chance, a person who is used to finding important stuff out on their own either would have found out that those email addresses "are bad" or that they shed a bad light on its user - and gotten a new one.
Same goes for "people who are used to listening to good, sound advice instead of shiny adverts" and to some extend "people with common sense that are at least aware of it when they do something they don't understand and at some point start asking for help instead of messing up".And stuff.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724578</id>
	<title>Re:Business email...</title>
	<author>Corporate Troll</author>
	<datestamp>1263232440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My father in law is guilty of doing this (non-tech related field) for his company.  I tried explaining him, but from his perspective these things do not matter.  As a matter of fact, outside of our field, it really doesn't.  It irritates me to, because I could set it up correctly for him.  I'd even do it for free...</htmltext>
<tokenext>My father in law is guilty of doing this ( non-tech related field ) for his company .
I tried explaining him , but from his perspective these things do not matter .
As a matter of fact , outside of our field , it really does n't .
It irritates me to , because I could set it up correctly for him .
I 'd even do it for free.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My father in law is guilty of doing this (non-tech related field) for his company.
I tried explaining him, but from his perspective these things do not matter.
As a matter of fact, outside of our field, it really doesn't.
It irritates me to, because I could set it up correctly for him.
I'd even do it for free...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721962</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722404</id>
	<title>On hotmail</title>
	<author>91degrees</author>
	<datestamp>1263221940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is an argument for hotmail - You may have created one for MSN.  It has the advantage - assuming you use MSN - of alerting you to new emails on any machine you might use.  I don't think any other webmail based services offer this without installing additional software.  (MSN is also additional software but common enough not to be a problem)</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is an argument for hotmail - You may have created one for MSN .
It has the advantage - assuming you use MSN - of alerting you to new emails on any machine you might use .
I do n't think any other webmail based services offer this without installing additional software .
( MSN is also additional software but common enough not to be a problem )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is an argument for hotmail - You may have created one for MSN.
It has the advantage - assuming you use MSN - of alerting you to new emails on any machine you might use.
I don't think any other webmail based services offer this without installing additional software.
(MSN is also additional software but common enough not to be a problem)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723898</id>
	<title>Bonus Catch-22 reference</title>
	<author>Quiet\_Desperation</author>
	<datestamp>1263229020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is why I maintain a relationship with a good headhunter. The idea of trying to deal with the "random filter of the week" person staffing the HR desk at any moment in any company is just depressing. Oh no, this one used dots instead of dashes for list bullets. Must be a drug user. Oops, this one didn't embolden the section headers. Obviously a lazy worker.</p><p>Hey, Yossarian is looking at the resumes today. Death to modifiers!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why I maintain a relationship with a good headhunter .
The idea of trying to deal with the " random filter of the week " person staffing the HR desk at any moment in any company is just depressing .
Oh no , this one used dots instead of dashes for list bullets .
Must be a drug user .
Oops , this one did n't embolden the section headers .
Obviously a lazy worker.Hey , Yossarian is looking at the resumes today .
Death to modifiers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why I maintain a relationship with a good headhunter.
The idea of trying to deal with the "random filter of the week" person staffing the HR desk at any moment in any company is just depressing.
Oh no, this one used dots instead of dashes for list bullets.
Must be a drug user.
Oops, this one didn't embolden the section headers.
Obviously a lazy worker.Hey, Yossarian is looking at the resumes today.
Death to modifiers!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721904</id>
	<title>I once had a guy bring it up in an interview</title>
	<author>thepainguy</author>
	<datestamp>1263219240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was talking to a company about a semi-technical consulting job and their CTO pointed it out. I think he was semi-serious. We ended up not working together.

Of course, this was 10 years ago and I had and AOL address because of their big dial-up network. That made sense given that I traveled a lot.

How hard is it to sign up for g-mail?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was talking to a company about a semi-technical consulting job and their CTO pointed it out .
I think he was semi-serious .
We ended up not working together .
Of course , this was 10 years ago and I had and AOL address because of their big dial-up network .
That made sense given that I traveled a lot .
How hard is it to sign up for g-mail ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was talking to a company about a semi-technical consulting job and their CTO pointed it out.
I think he was semi-serious.
We ended up not working together.
Of course, this was 10 years ago and I had and AOL address because of their big dial-up network.
That made sense given that I traveled a lot.
How hard is it to sign up for g-mail?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724198</id>
	<title>Re:Yes it would</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1263230580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>867-5309?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>867-5309 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>867-5309?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722062</id>
	<title>Get your own domain!</title>
	<author>starbugs</author>
	<datestamp>1263219960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just get your own domain name.<br>It's what ? $20, $40.<br>What's cooler that having your own domain.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; me@firstlastname.com<br>or<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; first@lastname.com</p><p>or, if your name wouldn't work:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; yourname@aolsucksalot.com</p><p>BTW "aolsucksalot.com" is still available<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just get your own domain name.It 's what ?
$ 20 , $ 40.What 's cooler that having your own domain .
          me @ firstlastname.comor           first @ lastname.comor , if your name would n't work :           yourname @ aolsucksalot.comBTW " aolsucksalot.com " is still available : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just get your own domain name.It's what ?
$20, $40.What's cooler that having your own domain.
          me@firstlastname.comor
          first@lastname.comor, if your name wouldn't work:
          yourname@aolsucksalot.comBTW "aolsucksalot.com" is still available :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723408</id>
	<title>Re:Absolutely not.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263226800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The car could be all-telling.   For instance, if I was in the business of clubbing seals I would definitely not hire someone who drove a Volvo Stationwagon or a Hybrid of any type.  I also would not hire someone who drove their bike to work.  All of these forms of transportation scream red alert for someone in a targetted industry for hippy-extremists.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The car could be all-telling .
For instance , if I was in the business of clubbing seals I would definitely not hire someone who drove a Volvo Stationwagon or a Hybrid of any type .
I also would not hire someone who drove their bike to work .
All of these forms of transportation scream red alert for someone in a targetted industry for hippy-extremists .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The car could be all-telling.
For instance, if I was in the business of clubbing seals I would definitely not hire someone who drove a Volvo Stationwagon or a Hybrid of any type.
I also would not hire someone who drove their bike to work.
All of these forms of transportation scream red alert for someone in a targetted industry for hippy-extremists.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722440</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724362</id>
	<title>why should it be any different than......</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263231600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>a persons car?  their home?  the clothes they wear?</p><p>we all judge people everyday for a multitude of things they do/say/have.  its human nature.  it keeps rolex and lexus in business.  take your girl to jared, then take her to tiffany.  both sell crystallized carbon.  but see the difference in her reaction.</p><p>there is only one thing worse than using an aol.com e-mail address, and that is connecting to aol via an old packard bell pc via dialup.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>a persons car ?
their home ?
the clothes they wear ? we all judge people everyday for a multitude of things they do/say/have .
its human nature .
it keeps rolex and lexus in business .
take your girl to jared , then take her to tiffany .
both sell crystallized carbon .
but see the difference in her reaction.there is only one thing worse than using an aol.com e-mail address , and that is connecting to aol via an old packard bell pc via dialup .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a persons car?
their home?
the clothes they wear?we all judge people everyday for a multitude of things they do/say/have.
its human nature.
it keeps rolex and lexus in business.
take your girl to jared, then take her to tiffany.
both sell crystallized carbon.
but see the difference in her reaction.there is only one thing worse than using an aol.com e-mail address, and that is connecting to aol via an old packard bell pc via dialup.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725446</id>
	<title>I don't know about the workplace but</title>
	<author>schnablebg</author>
	<datestamp>1263235560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It will <a href="http://www.shmittenkitten.com/2009/06/little-known-fact-i-will-judge-you-by.html" title="shmittenkitten.com" rel="nofollow">affect your dating life</a> [shmittenkitten.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>It will affect your dating life [ shmittenkitten.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will affect your dating life [shmittenkitten.com].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30744002</id>
	<title>Re:Absolutely not.</title>
	<author>fishexe</author>
	<datestamp>1263296940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Have a domain and associated website if you want to, but it is outlandish to suggest it should be a de facto thing.</p></div><p>Is it outlandish to suggest people should use "<i>de facto</i>" correctly?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have a domain and associated website if you want to , but it is outlandish to suggest it should be a de facto thing.Is it outlandish to suggest people should use " de facto " correctly ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Have a domain and associated website if you want to, but it is outlandish to suggest it should be a de facto thing.Is it outlandish to suggest people should use "de facto" correctly?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722440</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30733330</id>
	<title>Oops I should probably delete my other accounts.</title>
	<author>sparky1974</author>
	<datestamp>1263230880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder if in 10 years we'll be asking the same thing about a y@hoo account or those who have profiles or comments from other popular sites like f@book? I suppose it is up to the position to be filled. Does your applicant fad-followers have the right job qualifications to follow instructions or are you looking for those applicants that lead and think outside the box? Hmmm...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if in 10 years we 'll be asking the same thing about a y @ hoo account or those who have profiles or comments from other popular sites like f @ book ?
I suppose it is up to the position to be filled .
Does your applicant fad-followers have the right job qualifications to follow instructions or are you looking for those applicants that lead and think outside the box ?
Hmmm.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if in 10 years we'll be asking the same thing about a y@hoo account or those who have profiles or comments from other popular sites like f@book?
I suppose it is up to the position to be filled.
Does your applicant fad-followers have the right job qualifications to follow instructions or are you looking for those applicants that lead and think outside the box?
Hmmm...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724416</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1263231780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If it's a technology person, that's a red flag. I'd expect them to at least have their own domain name. It doesn't cost THAT much and looks far more professional.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>What about reliability? If I wanted the most stable address, it wouldn't be on a domain I purchased. Far more important is the ability to reliably communicate the address to someone verbally. That means it must be short, unambiguous, and preferably use a common domain, like gmail.com.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's a technology person , that 's a red flag .
I 'd expect them to at least have their own domain name .
It does n't cost THAT much and looks far more professional .
What about reliability ?
If I wanted the most stable address , it would n't be on a domain I purchased .
Far more important is the ability to reliably communicate the address to someone verbally .
That means it must be short , unambiguous , and preferably use a common domain , like gmail.com .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's a technology person, that's a red flag.
I'd expect them to at least have their own domain name.
It doesn't cost THAT much and looks far more professional.
What about reliability?
If I wanted the most stable address, it wouldn't be on a domain I purchased.
Far more important is the ability to reliably communicate the address to someone verbally.
That means it must be short, unambiguous, and preferably use a common domain, like gmail.com.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721856</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722070</id>
	<title>hey!</title>
	<author>potaz</author>
	<datestamp>1263220020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hey, I've actually done <a href="http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1416" title="qwantz.com">a comic on this subject</a> [qwantz.com]!  I'm firmly in the "I'd rather you have a cool email address then a suck-up one" camp.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , I 've actually done a comic on this subject [ qwantz.com ] !
I 'm firmly in the " I 'd rather you have a cool email address then a suck-up one " camp .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, I've actually done a comic on this subject [qwantz.com]!
I'm firmly in the "I'd rather you have a cool email address then a suck-up one" camp.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723424</id>
	<title>Not hard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263226860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1:  type www.gmail.com in the browser of your choice's address bar<br>2: click create an account, in the lower right<br>3: follow the rest of the instructions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 : type www.gmail.com in the browser of your choice 's address bar2 : click create an account , in the lower right3 : follow the rest of the instructions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1:  type www.gmail.com in the browser of your choice's address bar2: click create an account, in the lower right3: follow the rest of the instructions.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721904</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724028</id>
	<title>It depends</title>
	<author>MikeURL</author>
	<datestamp>1263229740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If it is some freelance writer I'm not sure it matters.
<br> <br>
It absolutely DOES matter if I'm dealing with an e-commerce website and their contact is @aol.com.  That pretty much ends the possibility that I'll do business with them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it is some freelance writer I 'm not sure it matters .
It absolutely DOES matter if I 'm dealing with an e-commerce website and their contact is @ aol.com .
That pretty much ends the possibility that I 'll do business with them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it is some freelance writer I'm not sure it matters.
It absolutely DOES matter if I'm dealing with an e-commerce website and their contact is @aol.com.
That pretty much ends the possibility that I'll do business with them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721906</id>
	<title>It's Retro!</title>
	<author>intertrode</author>
	<datestamp>1263219300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The right person can make it work.  Obviously, if a person acts old and like they aren't up-to-date it will just concrete a negative image.  The right person can make it look like they are intentionally being retro, and therefore hip.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The right person can make it work .
Obviously , if a person acts old and like they are n't up-to-date it will just concrete a negative image .
The right person can make it look like they are intentionally being retro , and therefore hip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The right person can make it work.
Obviously, if a person acts old and like they aren't up-to-date it will just concrete a negative image.
The right person can make it look like they are intentionally being retro, and therefore hip.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723708</id>
	<title>Re:Username matters too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263228180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're the sort of conformist ass that makes interviewing an exercise in misery and pointless hoop jumping. It's hilarious every time we have an engineering candidate come in for an interview where I work. They are trotted around in their fancy suit and power tie while all the employees are sitting around in knit shits and jeans/dockers. The whole "must dress like a crimelord" thing is the dumbest, most archaic relic of the whole business world.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're the sort of conformist ass that makes interviewing an exercise in misery and pointless hoop jumping .
It 's hilarious every time we have an engineering candidate come in for an interview where I work .
They are trotted around in their fancy suit and power tie while all the employees are sitting around in knit shits and jeans/dockers .
The whole " must dress like a crimelord " thing is the dumbest , most archaic relic of the whole business world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're the sort of conformist ass that makes interviewing an exercise in misery and pointless hoop jumping.
It's hilarious every time we have an engineering candidate come in for an interview where I work.
They are trotted around in their fancy suit and power tie while all the employees are sitting around in knit shits and jeans/dockers.
The whole "must dress like a crimelord" thing is the dumbest, most archaic relic of the whole business world.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722962</id>
	<title>Judging</title>
	<author>Peregr1n</author>
	<datestamp>1263224460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, people will make snap judgements. Whether that is moral or not is subjective.<br>People make snap judgements on ethnicity, sex (admit it - how many times have you turned down a girl for an IT position?), name (which might denote ethnicity or class), accent, disability, sexual orientation, looks, smell... all kinds of things which probably bear no relation to how well they might do a job. But... these things CAN be an indication - chances are a guy who turns up smelly to the interview won't get a public relations job, or a slim girl won't get a construction job.<br>This is why when sorting through applicants, we keep personal details separate from experience details. A lot of UK based universities and employers do this. Applicant A might seem perfect for the job, and I won't be influenced by the fact that Applicant A is an ugly fat black lesbian wheelchair-bound African immigrant. With an AOL address. Even if I had a prejudice against any of those facts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , people will make snap judgements .
Whether that is moral or not is subjective.People make snap judgements on ethnicity , sex ( admit it - how many times have you turned down a girl for an IT position ?
) , name ( which might denote ethnicity or class ) , accent , disability , sexual orientation , looks , smell... all kinds of things which probably bear no relation to how well they might do a job .
But... these things CAN be an indication - chances are a guy who turns up smelly to the interview wo n't get a public relations job , or a slim girl wo n't get a construction job.This is why when sorting through applicants , we keep personal details separate from experience details .
A lot of UK based universities and employers do this .
Applicant A might seem perfect for the job , and I wo n't be influenced by the fact that Applicant A is an ugly fat black lesbian wheelchair-bound African immigrant .
With an AOL address .
Even if I had a prejudice against any of those facts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, people will make snap judgements.
Whether that is moral or not is subjective.People make snap judgements on ethnicity, sex (admit it - how many times have you turned down a girl for an IT position?
), name (which might denote ethnicity or class), accent, disability, sexual orientation, looks, smell... all kinds of things which probably bear no relation to how well they might do a job.
But... these things CAN be an indication - chances are a guy who turns up smelly to the interview won't get a public relations job, or a slim girl won't get a construction job.This is why when sorting through applicants, we keep personal details separate from experience details.
A lot of UK based universities and employers do this.
Applicant A might seem perfect for the job, and I won't be influenced by the fact that Applicant A is an ugly fat black lesbian wheelchair-bound African immigrant.
With an AOL address.
Even if I had a prejudice against any of those facts.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723260</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Minwee</author>
	<datestamp>1263225960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Given the cost-cutting trend we've seen in IT over the past decade, would the image of someone that spends additional money/time on unnecessary technology be appealing?</p></div></blockquote><p>Good thinking.  <a href="http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Im-Sure-You-Can-Deal.aspx" title="thedailywtf.com">We should all try to cut costs wherever possible, without worrying about possible consequences</a> [thedailywtf.com].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Given the cost-cutting trend we 've seen in IT over the past decade , would the image of someone that spends additional money/time on unnecessary technology be appealing ? Good thinking .
We should all try to cut costs wherever possible , without worrying about possible consequences [ thedailywtf.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given the cost-cutting trend we've seen in IT over the past decade, would the image of someone that spends additional money/time on unnecessary technology be appealing?Good thinking.
We should all try to cut costs wherever possible, without worrying about possible consequences [thedailywtf.com].
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30731736</id>
	<title>Re:Username matters too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263218580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>haha thats so funny some dickhead is trying to work for you!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>haha thats so funny some dickhead is trying to work for you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>haha thats so funny some dickhead is trying to work for you!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724408</id>
	<title>Lame e-mail domains</title>
	<author>Animats</author>
	<datestamp>1263231780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Some lame e-mail domains:
</p><ul>
<li>
Hotmail.  Home of spammers.</li>
<li>
Gmail.   Also home of spammers, but some legit users still use it.  Sorry, Google, but you blew it.</li>
<li>
Anything in ".biz"</li>
<li>
Anything that appends an ad at the end of the message.</li>
</ul></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some lame e-mail domains : Hotmail .
Home of spammers .
Gmail. Also home of spammers , but some legit users still use it .
Sorry , Google , but you blew it .
Anything in " .biz " Anything that appends an ad at the end of the message .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Some lame e-mail domains:


Hotmail.
Home of spammers.
Gmail.   Also home of spammers, but some legit users still use it.
Sorry, Google, but you blew it.
Anything in ".biz"

Anything that appends an ad at the end of the message.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722210</id>
	<title>Yes!</title>
	<author>TigerTails</author>
	<datestamp>1263220860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, absolutely. If I look at a business online and it has an AOL or Hotmail email address (instead of an email address using their company domain), I would question its legitimacy.

Put it this way, I won't buy anything from CheapViagraForYou@hotmail.com.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , absolutely .
If I look at a business online and it has an AOL or Hotmail email address ( instead of an email address using their company domain ) , I would question its legitimacy .
Put it this way , I wo n't buy anything from CheapViagraForYou @ hotmail.com .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, absolutely.
If I look at a business online and it has an AOL or Hotmail email address (instead of an email address using their company domain), I would question its legitimacy.
Put it this way, I won't buy anything from CheapViagraForYou@hotmail.com.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30731354</id>
	<title>Re:You're kidding, right?</title>
	<author>Danny Rathjens</author>
	<datestamp>1263216300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is hiring discrimination in Japan based on street addresses.  Google got a bit of bad PR for making available map data that made this discrimination easier last year:<br>
<a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/24/184239" title="slashdot.org">http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/24/184239</a> [slashdot.org] <br>
<a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6337499.ece" title="timesonline.co.uk">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6337499.ece</a> [timesonline.co.uk]</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is hiring discrimination in Japan based on street addresses .
Google got a bit of bad PR for making available map data that made this discrimination easier last year : http : //tech.slashdot.org/article.pl ? sid = 09/05/24/184239 [ slashdot.org ] http : //www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6337499.ece [ timesonline.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is hiring discrimination in Japan based on street addresses.
Google got a bit of bad PR for making available map data that made this discrimination easier last year:
http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/24/184239 [slashdot.org] 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6337499.ece [timesonline.co.uk]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726668</id>
	<title>Re:I don't think it will cost you a job.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263241080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>usa.net was bought by NetAddress... Was free at first, then offered free to AmEx cardholders... Now they charge for it (~$50/yr, if I remember right).  Good service though, and good spam blocking.  I've had one since they were free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>usa.net was bought by NetAddress... Was free at first , then offered free to AmEx cardholders... Now they charge for it ( ~ $ 50/yr , if I remember right ) .
Good service though , and good spam blocking .
I 've had one since they were free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>usa.net was bought by NetAddress... Was free at first, then offered free to AmEx cardholders... Now they charge for it (~$50/yr, if I remember right).
Good service though, and good spam blocking.
I've had one since they were free.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722920</id>
	<title>It does say something ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263224220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... like when you have a gmail account your email adress says: "Google will read the mail you're sending to this recipient".</htmltext>
<tokenext>... like when you have a gmail account your email adress says : " Google will read the mail you 're sending to this recipient " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... like when you have a gmail account your email adress says: "Google will read the mail you're sending to this recipient".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30735564</id>
	<title>When can we expect</title>
	<author>RivenAleem</author>
	<datestamp>1263302160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To get an email address:</p><p>rivenaleem@atdot.com</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To get an email address : rivenaleem @ atdot.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To get an email address:rivenaleem@atdot.com</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721932</id>
	<title>Depends</title>
	<author>TimeElf1</author>
	<datestamp>1263219420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you have a job already I don't think so, although if you are looking for a job having John.Smith@gmail.com as a email address on your resume is way better than having Hotguy81@hotmail.com as a email address on your resume.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you have a job already I do n't think so , although if you are looking for a job having John.Smith @ gmail.com as a email address on your resume is way better than having Hotguy81 @ hotmail.com as a email address on your resume .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you have a job already I don't think so, although if you are looking for a job having John.Smith@gmail.com as a email address on your resume is way better than having Hotguy81@hotmail.com as a email address on your resume.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30727338</id>
	<title>She's A Reporter</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263243060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm in the travel industry where a memorable email address has brought me plenty of repeat business over the years. In fact it's reached the point that I simply can't give up the address I use for business because of the many customers who can't remember the company name (having changed employers many times over the years) but they remember my email address and no it hasn't hurt my income at all over the years since I've had clients who've followed me from one business to another over the years and the only time I lose one of them now is death. Yep I've got many who still insist on using me because I am their travel agent and have extensive knowledge of their likes/dislikes/health that have an impact on where/what they can go/do.</p><p>To me, the important question to ask is how long has she had the address because just like with an contractor, once you develop a reputation, word of mouth might be the one thing that keeps enough work coming in to pay the day to day bills and for most reporters, that's exactly what they are. Paid by the submission and not on payroll. It also makes me wonder why her so called friend is so insistent that she change her address? Is it really to help or is it to sabotage a professional reputation?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm in the travel industry where a memorable email address has brought me plenty of repeat business over the years .
In fact it 's reached the point that I simply ca n't give up the address I use for business because of the many customers who ca n't remember the company name ( having changed employers many times over the years ) but they remember my email address and no it has n't hurt my income at all over the years since I 've had clients who 've followed me from one business to another over the years and the only time I lose one of them now is death .
Yep I 've got many who still insist on using me because I am their travel agent and have extensive knowledge of their likes/dislikes/health that have an impact on where/what they can go/do.To me , the important question to ask is how long has she had the address because just like with an contractor , once you develop a reputation , word of mouth might be the one thing that keeps enough work coming in to pay the day to day bills and for most reporters , that 's exactly what they are .
Paid by the submission and not on payroll .
It also makes me wonder why her so called friend is so insistent that she change her address ?
Is it really to help or is it to sabotage a professional reputation ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm in the travel industry where a memorable email address has brought me plenty of repeat business over the years.
In fact it's reached the point that I simply can't give up the address I use for business because of the many customers who can't remember the company name (having changed employers many times over the years) but they remember my email address and no it hasn't hurt my income at all over the years since I've had clients who've followed me from one business to another over the years and the only time I lose one of them now is death.
Yep I've got many who still insist on using me because I am their travel agent and have extensive knowledge of their likes/dislikes/health that have an impact on where/what they can go/do.To me, the important question to ask is how long has she had the address because just like with an contractor, once you develop a reputation, word of mouth might be the one thing that keeps enough work coming in to pay the day to day bills and for most reporters, that's exactly what they are.
Paid by the submission and not on payroll.
It also makes me wonder why her so called friend is so insistent that she change her address?
Is it really to help or is it to sabotage a professional reputation?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722880</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263224040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most lawyers are not only uneducated in technology, but they are also raging cheapskates.   They make wheelbarrow loads of cash compared to the typical worker yet they refuse to throw away a $25.00 box of incorrect business cards.  Hell one I did work for refused to buy real network gear but complained that his network needed to be reboot regularly because the power in his shitty office was so bad it locked up the network gear.  My cheap solution was a $129.00 UPS on the networking gear.   He flipped out at how expensive it was.  This was in line with every other lawyer I did work for. Some of the scummy ones will try and bully you into doing things for free.  I ran a HDMI from his closet to his TV on the wall.  Then they guy called back a year later threatening to sue me because he could not get composite video from his 8 year old VCR he brought from home to the TV.  I told him he needed equipment to do that, he threatened to sue me because I listened to him when he said," No I only want the cable box on there, do not run any other wires."  I reminded him of the documentation I had with his signature, plus emails, and I would gladly welcome his lawsuit.</p><p>I don't do any work for Lawyers anymore. They are some of the most unreasonable people on the planet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most lawyers are not only uneducated in technology , but they are also raging cheapskates .
They make wheelbarrow loads of cash compared to the typical worker yet they refuse to throw away a $ 25.00 box of incorrect business cards .
Hell one I did work for refused to buy real network gear but complained that his network needed to be reboot regularly because the power in his shitty office was so bad it locked up the network gear .
My cheap solution was a $ 129.00 UPS on the networking gear .
He flipped out at how expensive it was .
This was in line with every other lawyer I did work for .
Some of the scummy ones will try and bully you into doing things for free .
I ran a HDMI from his closet to his TV on the wall .
Then they guy called back a year later threatening to sue me because he could not get composite video from his 8 year old VCR he brought from home to the TV .
I told him he needed equipment to do that , he threatened to sue me because I listened to him when he said , " No I only want the cable box on there , do not run any other wires .
" I reminded him of the documentation I had with his signature , plus emails , and I would gladly welcome his lawsuit.I do n't do any work for Lawyers anymore .
They are some of the most unreasonable people on the planet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most lawyers are not only uneducated in technology, but they are also raging cheapskates.
They make wheelbarrow loads of cash compared to the typical worker yet they refuse to throw away a $25.00 box of incorrect business cards.
Hell one I did work for refused to buy real network gear but complained that his network needed to be reboot regularly because the power in his shitty office was so bad it locked up the network gear.
My cheap solution was a $129.00 UPS on the networking gear.
He flipped out at how expensive it was.
This was in line with every other lawyer I did work for.
Some of the scummy ones will try and bully you into doing things for free.
I ran a HDMI from his closet to his TV on the wall.
Then they guy called back a year later threatening to sue me because he could not get composite video from his 8 year old VCR he brought from home to the TV.
I told him he needed equipment to do that, he threatened to sue me because I listened to him when he said," No I only want the cable box on there, do not run any other wires.
"  I reminded him of the documentation I had with his signature, plus emails, and I would gladly welcome his lawsuit.I don't do any work for Lawyers anymore.
They are some of the most unreasonable people on the planet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722332</id>
	<title>Shouldn't matter about the domain portion</title>
	<author>Arimus</author>
	<datestamp>1263221580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's the user part I'd pay more attention to than the domain...</p><p>I tend to use two; one uses my usual online handle@googlemail.com the other is firstname.surname@.com - If I'm doing something professional I'll use my 'proper' address not for the domain part but as it just looks better having an email from a real name rather than a nickname.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the user part I 'd pay more attention to than the domain...I tend to use two ; one uses my usual online handle @ googlemail.com the other is firstname.surname @ .com - If I 'm doing something professional I 'll use my 'proper ' address not for the domain part but as it just looks better having an email from a real name rather than a nickname .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the user part I'd pay more attention to than the domain...I tend to use two; one uses my usual online handle@googlemail.com the other is firstname.surname@.com - If I'm doing something professional I'll use my 'proper' address not for the domain part but as it just looks better having an email from a real name rather than a nickname.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30733554</id>
	<title>Absolutely</title>
	<author>CritterNYC</author>
	<datestamp>1263233280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An AOL.com email address screams "I don't have any idea how to use the interwebs" to a good chunk of people.  If you're in business, any of the free email accounts has bad connotations to a large chunk of folks (too cheap to buy a domain?  moonlighting on your real job and not serious about it?).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An AOL.com email address screams " I do n't have any idea how to use the interwebs " to a good chunk of people .
If you 're in business , any of the free email accounts has bad connotations to a large chunk of folks ( too cheap to buy a domain ?
moonlighting on your real job and not serious about it ?
) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An AOL.com email address screams "I don't have any idea how to use the interwebs" to a good chunk of people.
If you're in business, any of the free email accounts has bad connotations to a large chunk of folks (too cheap to buy a domain?
moonlighting on your real job and not serious about it?
).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721966</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Brandee07</author>
	<datestamp>1263219540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work with a lot of small businesses (mainly proprietary schools) and this happens a lot. You'd be surprised how many people use their own personal ISP-provided email as the official point of contact for their business- even printing it on their catalog. It's not like these people don't have their own domain names for their school's website, they just don't use it for email.</p><p>I also have a telecommute-only coworker who uses his unpronounceable at hotmail email for work emails. This disturbs me greatly, but I have no authority to change it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work with a lot of small businesses ( mainly proprietary schools ) and this happens a lot .
You 'd be surprised how many people use their own personal ISP-provided email as the official point of contact for their business- even printing it on their catalog .
It 's not like these people do n't have their own domain names for their school 's website , they just do n't use it for email.I also have a telecommute-only coworker who uses his unpronounceable at hotmail email for work emails .
This disturbs me greatly , but I have no authority to change it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work with a lot of small businesses (mainly proprietary schools) and this happens a lot.
You'd be surprised how many people use their own personal ISP-provided email as the official point of contact for their business- even printing it on their catalog.
It's not like these people don't have their own domain names for their school's website, they just don't use it for email.I also have a telecommute-only coworker who uses his unpronounceable at hotmail email for work emails.
This disturbs me greatly, but I have no authority to change it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723596</id>
	<title>Somebody must have missed the memo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263227640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>as evidenced by many applications for faculty positions at a Pharmacy School that will remain unnamed.  More than have of the applicants (most having multiple doctorates,) had e-mail addresses that could be described as "unprofessional" to say the least.  The sad part is that all applications still had to be processed, as it is a state institution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>as evidenced by many applications for faculty positions at a Pharmacy School that will remain unnamed .
More than have of the applicants ( most having multiple doctorates , ) had e-mail addresses that could be described as " unprofessional " to say the least .
The sad part is that all applications still had to be processed , as it is a state institution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as evidenced by many applications for faculty positions at a Pharmacy School that will remain unnamed.
More than have of the applicants (most having multiple doctorates,) had e-mail addresses that could be described as "unprofessional" to say the least.
The sad part is that all applications still had to be processed, as it is a state institution.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722692</id>
	<title>Real example of lost revenue</title>
	<author>CaptainOfSpray</author>
	<datestamp>1263223260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A client of mine, for whom I had built a website, was in the middle of conversation with a potential buyer of his specialist services (diamond drilling). The job would be worth several thousand pounds GBP. The conversation was going really well, the buyer was convinced, and asked for his email address to exchange contract documents. My client, forgetting that he now had a new email address that reflected the specialist service, gave his old generalist email address (builder). The buyer immediately chose to disbelieve that he was a certified specialist, and withdrew the offer of work.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A client of mine , for whom I had built a website , was in the middle of conversation with a potential buyer of his specialist services ( diamond drilling ) .
The job would be worth several thousand pounds GBP .
The conversation was going really well , the buyer was convinced , and asked for his email address to exchange contract documents .
My client , forgetting that he now had a new email address that reflected the specialist service , gave his old generalist email address ( builder ) .
The buyer immediately chose to disbelieve that he was a certified specialist , and withdrew the offer of work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A client of mine, for whom I had built a website, was in the middle of conversation with a potential buyer of his specialist services (diamond drilling).
The job would be worth several thousand pounds GBP.
The conversation was going really well, the buyer was convinced, and asked for his email address to exchange contract documents.
My client, forgetting that he now had a new email address that reflected the specialist service, gave his old generalist email address (builder).
The buyer immediately chose to disbelieve that he was a certified specialist, and withdrew the offer of work.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723194</id>
	<title>little help?</title>
	<author>error 303</author>
	<datestamp>1263225660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm still trying to figure out why I never get emailed updates on the status of my applications. What's wrong with MikeUnderscore2004@yahoo.com?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm still trying to figure out why I never get emailed updates on the status of my applications .
What 's wrong with MikeUnderscore2004 @ yahoo.com ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm still trying to figure out why I never get emailed updates on the status of my applications.
What's wrong with MikeUnderscore2004@yahoo.com?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724480</id>
	<title>Re:Absolutely not.</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1263232020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why should i care about what service provider they are using?</p><p>What is next people? Are you going to check also if they are using an iPhone or not? The kind of car they drive? The newspapers they read?</p></div><p>Have you been living under a rock or something?</p><p>I&rsquo;ve read about employers demanding that potential employees give them access to their personal Facebook profiles, for crying out loud! <em>Everything</em> is relevant.</p><p>(And personally, if an employer asked to see my Facebook profile, my answer would be flat-out &ldquo;No.&rdquo; Not because I have stuff on it that I don&rsquo;t want them knowing about, but because I feel it&rsquo;s my right to choose to keep it private.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why should i care about what service provider they are using ? What is next people ?
Are you going to check also if they are using an iPhone or not ?
The kind of car they drive ?
The newspapers they read ? Have you been living under a rock or something ? I    ve read about employers demanding that potential employees give them access to their personal Facebook profiles , for crying out loud !
Everything is relevant .
( And personally , if an employer asked to see my Facebook profile , my answer would be flat-out    No.    Not because I have stuff on it that I don    t want them knowing about , but because I feel it    s my right to choose to keep it private .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why should i care about what service provider they are using?What is next people?
Are you going to check also if they are using an iPhone or not?
The kind of car they drive?
The newspapers they read?Have you been living under a rock or something?I’ve read about employers demanding that potential employees give them access to their personal Facebook profiles, for crying out loud!
Everything is relevant.
(And personally, if an employer asked to see my Facebook profile, my answer would be flat-out “No.” Not because I have stuff on it that I don’t want them knowing about, but because I feel it’s my right to choose to keep it private.
)
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30732900</id>
	<title>@c64web.com</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263227340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even my commodore 64 has it's own domain http://www.c64web.com<br>The problem with AOL and HOTmail is your name is gone and it's hard to remember dennis65427@hotmail.com<br>much better with your own domain@yourdomain.com</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even my commodore 64 has it 's own domain http : //www.c64web.comThe problem with AOL and HOTmail is your name is gone and it 's hard to remember dennis65427 @ hotmail.commuch better with your own domain @ yourdomain.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even my commodore 64 has it's own domain http://www.c64web.comThe problem with AOL and HOTmail is your name is gone and it's hard to remember dennis65427@hotmail.commuch better with your own domain@yourdomain.com</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722056</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>hduff</author>
	<datestamp>1263219960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If it's a non-tech field, meh, I don't care that much. But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name, but still using @comcast or @aol on their business card for email.</p></div><p>And the website has blinking text, waving American flags and 37 colors with a complex patterned background (plus disco music) and a links page full of dead links; will not render properly in Netscape 3 and has been "Under Construction" forever.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's a non-tech field , meh , I do n't care that much .
But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name , but still using @ comcast or @ aol on their business card for email.And the website has blinking text , waving American flags and 37 colors with a complex patterned background ( plus disco music ) and a links page full of dead links ; will not render properly in Netscape 3 and has been " Under Construction " forever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's a non-tech field, meh, I don't care that much.
But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name, but still using @comcast or @aol on their business card for email.And the website has blinking text, waving American flags and 37 colors with a complex patterned background (plus disco music) and a links page full of dead links; will not render properly in Netscape 3 and has been "Under Construction" forever.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721856</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722252</id>
	<title>Ofcourse it matters...</title>
	<author>McNihil</author>
	<datestamp>1263221160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>not the domain/host name but the user name they have chosen.</p><p>mofo@</p><p>IamDeBezzt@</p><p>fu2lngtime@</p><p>I have countless others on file but not on top of my head. And yes I reject these faster than 1 CC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>not the domain/host name but the user name they have chosen.mofo @ IamDeBezzt @ fu2lngtime @ I have countless others on file but not on top of my head .
And yes I reject these faster than 1 CC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>not the domain/host name but the user name they have chosen.mofo@IamDeBezzt@fu2lngtime@I have countless others on file but not on top of my head.
And yes I reject these faster than 1 CC.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723520</id>
	<title>Re:I once had a guy bring it up in an interview</title>
	<author>thepainguy</author>
	<datestamp>1263227280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"How hard is it to sign up for g-mail?"

Sorry if I wasn't clear, but this was a rhetorical question. I've been on g-mail for years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" How hard is it to sign up for g-mail ?
" Sorry if I was n't clear , but this was a rhetorical question .
I 've been on g-mail for years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"How hard is it to sign up for g-mail?
"

Sorry if I wasn't clear, but this was a rhetorical question.
I've been on g-mail for years.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723022</id>
	<title>a domain by any other name would smell as sweet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263224820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i have an A in my first name that i substituted as @ and bought a domain name that used everything after the A. so on my resume my email address is @.com. it's gotten a lot of positive feedback as being clever and tech savvy and friends easily remember it.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/ac because of stupid password reset<br>houstonmat</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i have an A in my first name that i substituted as @ and bought a domain name that used everything after the A. so on my resume my email address is @ .com .
it 's gotten a lot of positive feedback as being clever and tech savvy and friends easily remember it .
/ac because of stupid password resethoustonmat</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i have an A in my first name that i substituted as @ and bought a domain name that used everything after the A. so on my resume my email address is @.com.
it's gotten a lot of positive feedback as being clever and tech savvy and friends easily remember it.
/ac because of stupid password resethoustonmat</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721838</id>
	<title>yes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263218940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722544</id>
	<title>Re:nicknames of the upmodded comments so far:</title>
	<author>JSBiff</author>
	<datestamp>1263222540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tend to lean towards the viewpoint expressed by the parent. For a *business*, I am always kind of left wondering, if the email address is an aol, yahoo, gmail, or hotmail/msn account (always kind of left wondering if a business with such an address is just a fly-by-night scam), but for peoples' personal email, at least to me, it doesn't really matter much. Of course, I'm not in a position where I hire anyone, so I guess what I think doesn't currently matter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tend to lean towards the viewpoint expressed by the parent .
For a * business * , I am always kind of left wondering , if the email address is an aol , yahoo , gmail , or hotmail/msn account ( always kind of left wondering if a business with such an address is just a fly-by-night scam ) , but for peoples ' personal email , at least to me , it does n't really matter much .
Of course , I 'm not in a position where I hire anyone , so I guess what I think does n't currently matter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tend to lean towards the viewpoint expressed by the parent.
For a *business*, I am always kind of left wondering, if the email address is an aol, yahoo, gmail, or hotmail/msn account (always kind of left wondering if a business with such an address is just a fly-by-night scam), but for peoples' personal email, at least to me, it doesn't really matter much.
Of course, I'm not in a position where I hire anyone, so I guess what I think doesn't currently matter.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723988</id>
	<title>Important for sysadmins</title>
	<author>shish</author>
	<datestamp>1263229560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you think a third-rate email service is perfectly acceptable, I don't want you running my email servers...</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you think a third-rate email service is perfectly acceptable , I do n't want you running my email servers.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you think a third-rate email service is perfectly acceptable, I don't want you running my email servers...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724784</id>
	<title>Re:hey!</title>
	<author>JoeMerchant</author>
	<datestamp>1263233280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
Nice plug for your comic, but there's a big gap between cool and clueless.  aol.com implies some level of tech cluelessness, or at least an apathy toward stuff that could be better.  Yeah, ImAProfessional@Impressive.org is certainly blowing smoke where it just won't help and JoeFlysJets@ThunderMountainRange.Net might be cooler.  Personally, I think things like e-mail addresses, fonts, paper color, clothing choice, etc. should be invisible during a hiring/interview process, if the interviewer is noticing that, you're usually doing something wrong.  Personal hobbies, interests, etc. can be relevant and positive information, but not when it's something like upChuck@mondayMorning.com.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice plug for your comic , but there 's a big gap between cool and clueless .
aol.com implies some level of tech cluelessness , or at least an apathy toward stuff that could be better .
Yeah , ImAProfessional @ Impressive.org is certainly blowing smoke where it just wo n't help and JoeFlysJets @ ThunderMountainRange.Net might be cooler .
Personally , I think things like e-mail addresses , fonts , paper color , clothing choice , etc .
should be invisible during a hiring/interview process , if the interviewer is noticing that , you 're usually doing something wrong .
Personal hobbies , interests , etc .
can be relevant and positive information , but not when it 's something like upChuck @ mondayMorning.com .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Nice plug for your comic, but there's a big gap between cool and clueless.
aol.com implies some level of tech cluelessness, or at least an apathy toward stuff that could be better.
Yeah, ImAProfessional@Impressive.org is certainly blowing smoke where it just won't help and JoeFlysJets@ThunderMountainRange.Net might be cooler.
Personally, I think things like e-mail addresses, fonts, paper color, clothing choice, etc.
should be invisible during a hiring/interview process, if the interviewer is noticing that, you're usually doing something wrong.
Personal hobbies, interests, etc.
can be relevant and positive information, but not when it's something like upChuck@mondayMorning.com.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722144</id>
	<title>yes. The address is important</title>
	<author>z\_gringo</author>
	<datestamp>1263220560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
If the address is loads@beer.com or  foxy4U2@hotmail.com, yes that probably won't help them get the job.  Ditto if it is religous, political or whatever, The best option is to not try to be cute with the email address you are using professionally.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the address is loads @ beer.com or foxy4U2 @ hotmail.com , yes that probably wo n't help them get the job .
Ditto if it is religous , political or whatever , The best option is to not try to be cute with the email address you are using professionally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
If the address is loads@beer.com or  foxy4U2@hotmail.com, yes that probably won't help them get the job.
Ditto if it is religous, political or whatever, The best option is to not try to be cute with the email address you are using professionally.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722610</id>
	<title>Re:nicknames of the upmodded comments so far:</title>
	<author>weave</author>
	<datestamp>1263222840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"weave"
there isn't a joke that hasn't been made about girls with weaves</p></div></blockquote><p>I doubt any of us would apply for a job with these names, although my username is a shortened version of my surname and has squat all to do with girl's weaves!

</p><p>Anyway, nice gotcha post regardless!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" weave " there is n't a joke that has n't been made about girls with weavesI doubt any of us would apply for a job with these names , although my username is a shortened version of my surname and has squat all to do with girl 's weaves !
Anyway , nice gotcha post regardless !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"weave"
there isn't a joke that hasn't been made about girls with weavesI doubt any of us would apply for a job with these names, although my username is a shortened version of my surname and has squat all to do with girl's weaves!
Anyway, nice gotcha post regardless!
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721850</id>
	<title>yeah</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263218940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it does matter, first impression is everything and people for the most part cannot look past the bad connotations that attach themselves to anything that we use to represent us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it does matter , first impression is everything and people for the most part can not look past the bad connotations that attach themselves to anything that we use to represent us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it does matter, first impression is everything and people for the most part cannot look past the bad connotations that attach themselves to anything that we use to represent us.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721914</id>
	<title>No biggie, but still</title>
	<author>cerberusss</author>
	<datestamp>1263219300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Having a funny e-mail address is not a big deal, but still it is a stupid thing. Suppose you know someone with his own business and he has very cheap/strange-looking business cards, as if printed on a cheap home inkjet. It doesn't really matter in this day and age, but still -- it looks stupid.</p><p>So if you have good qualifications, why in heaven's name would you have an e-mail address like blonde1223@hotmail.com?</p><p>Also, if you're an IT professional, you should know that it's really easy to get your own domain and link it through to a Google Apps account. I like it when people have a firstname@lastname.tld account.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having a funny e-mail address is not a big deal , but still it is a stupid thing .
Suppose you know someone with his own business and he has very cheap/strange-looking business cards , as if printed on a cheap home inkjet .
It does n't really matter in this day and age , but still -- it looks stupid.So if you have good qualifications , why in heaven 's name would you have an e-mail address like blonde1223 @ hotmail.com ? Also , if you 're an IT professional , you should know that it 's really easy to get your own domain and link it through to a Google Apps account .
I like it when people have a firstname @ lastname.tld account .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having a funny e-mail address is not a big deal, but still it is a stupid thing.
Suppose you know someone with his own business and he has very cheap/strange-looking business cards, as if printed on a cheap home inkjet.
It doesn't really matter in this day and age, but still -- it looks stupid.So if you have good qualifications, why in heaven's name would you have an e-mail address like blonde1223@hotmail.com?Also, if you're an IT professional, you should know that it's really easy to get your own domain and link it through to a Google Apps account.
I like it when people have a firstname@lastname.tld account.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30729540</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263207420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some are unreasonable. My Pastor is a QC. Great, down-to-earth bloke. Generalisations are rarely correct - certainly some truth in what you said - but a bit general.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some are unreasonable .
My Pastor is a QC .
Great , down-to-earth bloke .
Generalisations are rarely correct - certainly some truth in what you said - but a bit general .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some are unreasonable.
My Pastor is a QC.
Great, down-to-earth bloke.
Generalisations are rarely correct - certainly some truth in what you said - but a bit general.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722178</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>PrinceAshitaka</author>
	<datestamp>1263220740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>well, it is a qualified yes.

Even gmail, which in my opinion is not as "toxic" as aol, could be a hinderance if you do something like freelance web design. (Who does freelance web design and doesn't have thier own domain.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>well , it is a qualified yes .
Even gmail , which in my opinion is not as " toxic " as aol , could be a hinderance if you do something like freelance web design .
( Who does freelance web design and does n't have thier own domain .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>well, it is a qualified yes.
Even gmail, which in my opinion is not as "toxic" as aol, could be a hinderance if you do something like freelance web design.
(Who does freelance web design and doesn't have thier own domain.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724688</id>
	<title>Rather see generic, than too specific.</title>
	<author>Gribflex</author>
	<datestamp>1263232920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I prefer a generic email address if at all possible. yourname@{gmail | hotmail | yahoo}.com or something like that.</p><p>Anything crazy before the @ is bad news.<br>I don't mind too much what comes after the @, with one exception. If you have a domain that I am not familiar with (for example, yourname.com) I am going to go and check out whats there, and I *will* judge you on what I find.</p><p>Specifically if it includes anything non-professional. yourname@yourname.com is perfectly ok, as long as yourname.com isn't a website about torrents, nakedness, complaining about your previous boss, doing anything at all with questionable legality, etc. in which case it becomes as bad as seeing yourname@{istealsoftware | lookatmenaked | ihatemyboss | chronic4life }.com</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I prefer a generic email address if at all possible .
yourname @ { gmail | hotmail | yahoo } .com or something like that.Anything crazy before the @ is bad news.I do n't mind too much what comes after the @ , with one exception .
If you have a domain that I am not familiar with ( for example , yourname.com ) I am going to go and check out whats there , and I * will * judge you on what I find.Specifically if it includes anything non-professional .
yourname @ yourname.com is perfectly ok , as long as yourname.com is n't a website about torrents , nakedness , complaining about your previous boss , doing anything at all with questionable legality , etc .
in which case it becomes as bad as seeing yourname @ { istealsoftware | lookatmenaked | ihatemyboss | chronic4life } .com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I prefer a generic email address if at all possible.
yourname@{gmail | hotmail | yahoo}.com or something like that.Anything crazy before the @ is bad news.I don't mind too much what comes after the @, with one exception.
If you have a domain that I am not familiar with (for example, yourname.com) I am going to go and check out whats there, and I *will* judge you on what I find.Specifically if it includes anything non-professional.
yourname@yourname.com is perfectly ok, as long as yourname.com isn't a website about torrents, nakedness, complaining about your previous boss, doing anything at all with questionable legality, etc.
in which case it becomes as bad as seeing yourname@{istealsoftware | lookatmenaked | ihatemyboss | chronic4life }.com</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722644</id>
	<title>I come across this all the time...</title>
	<author>rHBa</author>
	<datestamp>1263223020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...and some of their excuses are hard to argue against and not as simple to fix as you might think.<br>
<br>
For example, the number one excuse is <i>'Our existing client base uses that address to contact us'</i>.<br>
<br>
<i>'Simple'</i> you think, <i>'I'll set their sales@whatever-isp.com address to forward to the address at their new domain and when they reply to their clients from the new address the clients will slowly migrate to the new address'</i>.<br>
<br>
The problem is that many of the worse ISPs/older email services don't allow redirects (or only for a limited amount of time, requiring you to periodically log into your webmail account to look at adverts)<br>
<br>
<i>'Okay then'</i> you think, <i>'I'll set their new address to redirect to their @whatever-isp.com address, at least that way they can put the new address on the next load of print work they get done.'</i> <br>
<br>
The problem now is that they will still be replying from their @whatever-isp.com address which looks just as un-professional and more confusing for the potential client. Changing the From header isn't an option either (even if whatever-isp.com allows it) as it will break SPF records (and you DON'T want to be adding whatever-isp.com's SMTP servers to your 'allowed sources' list).<br>
<br>
The options you're left with are to try and juggle two accounts while old clients migrate to the new address (SMEs hate this) or stick with the old address (unfortunately what often ends up happening).</htmltext>
<tokenext>...and some of their excuses are hard to argue against and not as simple to fix as you might think .
For example , the number one excuse is 'Our existing client base uses that address to contact us' .
'Simple ' you think , 'I 'll set their sales @ whatever-isp.com address to forward to the address at their new domain and when they reply to their clients from the new address the clients will slowly migrate to the new address' .
The problem is that many of the worse ISPs/older email services do n't allow redirects ( or only for a limited amount of time , requiring you to periodically log into your webmail account to look at adverts ) 'Okay then ' you think , 'I 'll set their new address to redirect to their @ whatever-isp.com address , at least that way they can put the new address on the next load of print work they get done .
' The problem now is that they will still be replying from their @ whatever-isp.com address which looks just as un-professional and more confusing for the potential client .
Changing the From header is n't an option either ( even if whatever-isp.com allows it ) as it will break SPF records ( and you DO N'T want to be adding whatever-isp.com 's SMTP servers to your 'allowed sources ' list ) .
The options you 're left with are to try and juggle two accounts while old clients migrate to the new address ( SMEs hate this ) or stick with the old address ( unfortunately what often ends up happening ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and some of their excuses are hard to argue against and not as simple to fix as you might think.
For example, the number one excuse is 'Our existing client base uses that address to contact us'.
'Simple' you think, 'I'll set their sales@whatever-isp.com address to forward to the address at their new domain and when they reply to their clients from the new address the clients will slowly migrate to the new address'.
The problem is that many of the worse ISPs/older email services don't allow redirects (or only for a limited amount of time, requiring you to periodically log into your webmail account to look at adverts)

'Okay then' you think, 'I'll set their new address to redirect to their @whatever-isp.com address, at least that way they can put the new address on the next load of print work they get done.
' 

The problem now is that they will still be replying from their @whatever-isp.com address which looks just as un-professional and more confusing for the potential client.
Changing the From header isn't an option either (even if whatever-isp.com allows it) as it will break SPF records (and you DON'T want to be adding whatever-isp.com's SMTP servers to your 'allowed sources' list).
The options you're left with are to try and juggle two accounts while old clients migrate to the new address (SMEs hate this) or stick with the old address (unfortunately what often ends up happening).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722048</id>
	<title>Aol is one thing but a @hotmail?</title>
	<author>miffo.swe</author>
	<datestamp>1263219900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would never in my life hire someone for a technical position if they have a hotmail account in their resume. Hotmail is to me and i suspect many others the most lame address anyone can have. If someone is a geek and still has a hotmail account i instantly file those under "rampant Microsoft fanboy" because most techies with some skills choose a much better mail provider.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would never in my life hire someone for a technical position if they have a hotmail account in their resume .
Hotmail is to me and i suspect many others the most lame address anyone can have .
If someone is a geek and still has a hotmail account i instantly file those under " rampant Microsoft fanboy " because most techies with some skills choose a much better mail provider .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would never in my life hire someone for a technical position if they have a hotmail account in their resume.
Hotmail is to me and i suspect many others the most lame address anyone can have.
If someone is a geek and still has a hotmail account i instantly file those under "rampant Microsoft fanboy" because most techies with some skills choose a much better mail provider.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725036</id>
	<title>Re:It's what comes before the @ that matters</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1263234120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>These do not give a good impression. Is it unfair? Probably.</i></p><p>I don't agree. It's like attire; you don't go looking for a job in a law firm wearing a t-shirt and blue jeans, and you don't look for a factory job wearing a business suit.</p><p>I once missed out on the job of my dreams because I overdressed. It was the middle eighties and I was trying to get on with Scott Adams (the text adventure game maker, not the cartoonist). I was working for Disney at the time, so I had short hair and was clean shaven as per Disney's dress code.</p><p>I talked to Mr. Adams over the phone and he seemed impressed; it looked like I had the job. I put on a pair of slacks and a button down white shirt. When I got there, every employee (including Mr. Adams) had long hair, t-shirts and jeans. I'm convinced that if I'd showed up wearing a Grateful Dead t-shirt and stained, torn jeans I would have been hired.</p><p>I'd say if you were looking for a job at Id, quakefanatic@isp.tld would be a good email address, but a lousy one of you were trying for a job at IBM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These do not give a good impression .
Is it unfair ?
Probably.I do n't agree .
It 's like attire ; you do n't go looking for a job in a law firm wearing a t-shirt and blue jeans , and you do n't look for a factory job wearing a business suit.I once missed out on the job of my dreams because I overdressed .
It was the middle eighties and I was trying to get on with Scott Adams ( the text adventure game maker , not the cartoonist ) .
I was working for Disney at the time , so I had short hair and was clean shaven as per Disney 's dress code.I talked to Mr. Adams over the phone and he seemed impressed ; it looked like I had the job .
I put on a pair of slacks and a button down white shirt .
When I got there , every employee ( including Mr. Adams ) had long hair , t-shirts and jeans .
I 'm convinced that if I 'd showed up wearing a Grateful Dead t-shirt and stained , torn jeans I would have been hired.I 'd say if you were looking for a job at Id , quakefanatic @ isp.tld would be a good email address , but a lousy one of you were trying for a job at IBM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These do not give a good impression.
Is it unfair?
Probably.I don't agree.
It's like attire; you don't go looking for a job in a law firm wearing a t-shirt and blue jeans, and you don't look for a factory job wearing a business suit.I once missed out on the job of my dreams because I overdressed.
It was the middle eighties and I was trying to get on with Scott Adams (the text adventure game maker, not the cartoonist).
I was working for Disney at the time, so I had short hair and was clean shaven as per Disney's dress code.I talked to Mr. Adams over the phone and he seemed impressed; it looked like I had the job.
I put on a pair of slacks and a button down white shirt.
When I got there, every employee (including Mr. Adams) had long hair, t-shirts and jeans.
I'm convinced that if I'd showed up wearing a Grateful Dead t-shirt and stained, torn jeans I would have been hired.I'd say if you were looking for a job at Id, quakefanatic@isp.tld would be a good email address, but a lousy one of you were trying for a job at IBM.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723874</id>
	<title>It really does matter.</title>
	<author>billsayswow</author>
	<datestamp>1263228900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Granted, the second half of the email isn't as much of a deal breaker as the first half. While I might chuckle at DaveRoberts@AOL.com, I'd afford them more respect than... animeluvr6969@gmail.com, for instance.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Granted , the second half of the email is n't as much of a deal breaker as the first half .
While I might chuckle at DaveRoberts @ AOL.com , I 'd afford them more respect than... animeluvr6969 @ gmail.com , for instance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Granted, the second half of the email isn't as much of a deal breaker as the first half.
While I might chuckle at DaveRoberts@AOL.com, I'd afford them more respect than... animeluvr6969@gmail.com, for instance.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30730850</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>harlows\_monkeys</author>
	<datestamp>1263213300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If it's a technology person, that's a red flag. I'd expect them to at least have their own domain name. It doesn't cost THAT much and looks far more professional</p></div><p>You can't infer from someone using an aol, hotmail, yahoo, or gmail address that they don't have their own domain. It's quite possible that they simply don't trust you with their @theirdomain address.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's a technology person , that 's a red flag .
I 'd expect them to at least have their own domain name .
It does n't cost THAT much and looks far more professionalYou ca n't infer from someone using an aol , hotmail , yahoo , or gmail address that they do n't have their own domain .
It 's quite possible that they simply do n't trust you with their @ theirdomain address .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's a technology person, that's a red flag.
I'd expect them to at least have their own domain name.
It doesn't cost THAT much and looks far more professionalYou can't infer from someone using an aol, hotmail, yahoo, or gmail address that they don't have their own domain.
It's quite possible that they simply don't trust you with their @theirdomain address.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723696</id>
	<title>Yes, but it depends</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263228180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't dismiss applicants based on domain very often, moreso for their actual account name.  I've had senior level applicants apply for IT jobs with names like the following.</p><p>@budlight.com</p><p>deadhead420@</p><p>flrtygal69@</p><p>faq2loser@</p><p>noobpwner@</p><p>Not professional.  AOL.com doesn't bother me by itself</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't dismiss applicants based on domain very often , moreso for their actual account name .
I 've had senior level applicants apply for IT jobs with names like the following .
@ budlight.comdeadhead420 @ flrtygal69 @ faq2loser @ noobpwner @ Not professional .
AOL.com does n't bother me by itself</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't dismiss applicants based on domain very often, moreso for their actual account name.
I've had senior level applicants apply for IT jobs with names like the following.
@budlight.comdeadhead420@flrtygal69@faq2loser@noobpwner@Not professional.
AOL.com doesn't bother me by itself</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30728770</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Monolith1</author>
	<datestamp>1263204600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't do any work for Lawyers anymore. They are some of the most unreasonable people on the planet.</p></div><p>I'll bet you a penny some Doctors are bigger cheapskates.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't do any work for Lawyers anymore .
They are some of the most unreasonable people on the planet.I 'll bet you a penny some Doctors are bigger cheapskates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't do any work for Lawyers anymore.
They are some of the most unreasonable people on the planet.I'll bet you a penny some Doctors are bigger cheapskates.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722016</id>
	<title>Re:Hotmail is Microsoft</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263219780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hotmail was not fine before Microsoft. Really. You must have been a big-time noob back then.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hotmail was not fine before Microsoft .
Really. You must have been a big-time noob back then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hotmail was not fine before Microsoft.
Really. You must have been a big-time noob back then.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722592</id>
	<title>Re:No biggie, but still</title>
	<author>jacksonj04</author>
	<datestamp>1263222780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are only so many lastname.tld kicking around, and if you have a common name you're screwed. I need to get to some quite obscure variations on my first name, last name and middle initials before I find a domain which is still available and can fit in a sensible amount of space.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are only so many lastname.tld kicking around , and if you have a common name you 're screwed .
I need to get to some quite obscure variations on my first name , last name and middle initials before I find a domain which is still available and can fit in a sensible amount of space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are only so many lastname.tld kicking around, and if you have a common name you're screwed.
I need to get to some quite obscure variations on my first name, last name and middle initials before I find a domain which is still available and can fit in a sensible amount of space.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723882</id>
	<title>Re:hell no!</title>
	<author>Crudely\_Indecent</author>
	<datestamp>1263228960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The parent makes a good point in a funny way.</p><p>The address he lists would be an example of something that anyone could recognize and form an opinion about.  Other addresses might have meaning only to those with additional industry knowledge.</p><p>An AOL address is something that I'd never hand out because I know what that says about me (to others with technical knowledge)  I'm not sure exactly what message an AOL address sends to non-technical users.</p><p>A more specific example (requiring additional knowledge to form an opinion) might be <i>tenfingers@goatse.cx</i>, which would have specific meaning to anyone reading slashdot or anyone familiar with internet history.  Anyone without that specific knowledge wouldn't know the difference unless they researched it.</p><p>My question is, why would a professional want an email address containing anything other than their own business domain?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The parent makes a good point in a funny way.The address he lists would be an example of something that anyone could recognize and form an opinion about .
Other addresses might have meaning only to those with additional industry knowledge.An AOL address is something that I 'd never hand out because I know what that says about me ( to others with technical knowledge ) I 'm not sure exactly what message an AOL address sends to non-technical users.A more specific example ( requiring additional knowledge to form an opinion ) might be tenfingers @ goatse.cx , which would have specific meaning to anyone reading slashdot or anyone familiar with internet history .
Anyone without that specific knowledge would n't know the difference unless they researched it.My question is , why would a professional want an email address containing anything other than their own business domain ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The parent makes a good point in a funny way.The address he lists would be an example of something that anyone could recognize and form an opinion about.
Other addresses might have meaning only to those with additional industry knowledge.An AOL address is something that I'd never hand out because I know what that says about me (to others with technical knowledge)  I'm not sure exactly what message an AOL address sends to non-technical users.A more specific example (requiring additional knowledge to form an opinion) might be tenfingers@goatse.cx, which would have specific meaning to anyone reading slashdot or anyone familiar with internet history.
Anyone without that specific knowledge wouldn't know the difference unless they researched it.My question is, why would a professional want an email address containing anything other than their own business domain?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722238</id>
	<title>It's a tossup.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263221100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of my neighbors runs a nice sized utility and business as well as a landscaping supply/firewood company.  Their contact email is AOL or Hotmail and no web presence.  In my mind they probably should have their own domain for a business summary and going rates on the landscaping supplies and firewood, as well as something non-public for their email.  On the other hand this business model works absolutely fine with the current demographics of developers in the area.</p><p>Another neighbor has a tree service business, but also does paving referrals and estimates for  the first neighbor.  He does bother with his own domain to explain services and prices and for his email contact.  And he also seems to clean up on business from the local geeks because the local competition of a similar size works almost completely by yellow pages and word of mouth, which doesn't work with the new demographics of homeowners and businesses in the area.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of my neighbors runs a nice sized utility and business as well as a landscaping supply/firewood company .
Their contact email is AOL or Hotmail and no web presence .
In my mind they probably should have their own domain for a business summary and going rates on the landscaping supplies and firewood , as well as something non-public for their email .
On the other hand this business model works absolutely fine with the current demographics of developers in the area.Another neighbor has a tree service business , but also does paving referrals and estimates for the first neighbor .
He does bother with his own domain to explain services and prices and for his email contact .
And he also seems to clean up on business from the local geeks because the local competition of a similar size works almost completely by yellow pages and word of mouth , which does n't work with the new demographics of homeowners and businesses in the area .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of my neighbors runs a nice sized utility and business as well as a landscaping supply/firewood company.
Their contact email is AOL or Hotmail and no web presence.
In my mind they probably should have their own domain for a business summary and going rates on the landscaping supplies and firewood, as well as something non-public for their email.
On the other hand this business model works absolutely fine with the current demographics of developers in the area.Another neighbor has a tree service business, but also does paving referrals and estimates for  the first neighbor.
He does bother with his own domain to explain services and prices and for his email contact.
And he also seems to clean up on business from the local geeks because the local competition of a similar size works almost completely by yellow pages and word of mouth, which doesn't work with the new demographics of homeowners and businesses in the area.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30727902</id>
	<title>Re:Business email...</title>
	<author>omnichad</author>
	<datestamp>1263201600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Especially when you think of how much the paint job on a vehicle costs.  For only $10 more it could have been memorable (a real email).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Especially when you think of how much the paint job on a vehicle costs .
For only $ 10 more it could have been memorable ( a real email ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Especially when you think of how much the paint job on a vehicle costs.
For only $10 more it could have been memorable (a real email).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722874</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>SecurityGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1263224040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interestingly, that strikes me as potentially pretentious and wasteful.  Don't tie up a chuck of Internet real estate just for your own personal vanity, IMO.  Would I bin somebody's resume over it?  Nope, nor would I for an aol.com address.  If they get as far as talking to them, I might ask about it.  There's probably a reason.  Either way, asking will tell you something.  Assuming will not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interestingly , that strikes me as potentially pretentious and wasteful .
Do n't tie up a chuck of Internet real estate just for your own personal vanity , IMO .
Would I bin somebody 's resume over it ?
Nope , nor would I for an aol.com address .
If they get as far as talking to them , I might ask about it .
There 's probably a reason .
Either way , asking will tell you something .
Assuming will not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interestingly, that strikes me as potentially pretentious and wasteful.
Don't tie up a chuck of Internet real estate just for your own personal vanity, IMO.
Would I bin somebody's resume over it?
Nope, nor would I for an aol.com address.
If they get as far as talking to them, I might ask about it.
There's probably a reason.
Either way, asking will tell you something.
Assuming will not.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724596</id>
	<title>Re:Of course it does</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1263232500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, I&rsquo;d avoid any number having 666 in it like the plague.</p><p>The only time I&rsquo;ve seen it actually work <em>for</em> someone instead of against them is a guy who sells gag &ldquo;Get out of hell free&rdquo; cards &ndash; he managed to snag PO Box 666. Which, of course, is awesome.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , I    d avoid any number having 666 in it like the plague.The only time I    ve seen it actually work for someone instead of against them is a guy who sells gag    Get out of hell free    cards    he managed to snag PO Box 666 .
Which , of course , is awesome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, I’d avoid any number having 666 in it like the plague.The only time I’ve seen it actually work for someone instead of against them is a guy who sells gag “Get out of hell free” cards – he managed to snag PO Box 666.
Which, of course, is awesome.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724466</id>
	<title>Re:nicknames of the upmodded comments so far:</title>
	<author>tunapez</author>
	<datestamp>1263231960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>they don't have time to play mindless little image games like this one. this whole issue is stupid</p></div><p>Hear, hear! I've met impossible deadlines for fantastic rewards from Fortune 500 co's, recently saved a small biz from ruin by manually repairing over 40,000 pieces during their biggest quarter ever, I work forty hours straight for the county when election day rolls around... but I use my 12 yo hotmail account b/c I don't have time to manage/fix/filter my own server and my old host was the absolute worst spammer of them all.</p><p>Don't like my nick' or think my public email is unprofessional? No worries, go ahead and hire the sycophant whose strengths are ass-kissing and keeping up appearances. Let me know when you need the job done right and it's almost too late, looming deadlines and performance bonuses are two of my fav's.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>they do n't have time to play mindless little image games like this one .
this whole issue is stupidHear , hear !
I 've met impossible deadlines for fantastic rewards from Fortune 500 co 's , recently saved a small biz from ruin by manually repairing over 40,000 pieces during their biggest quarter ever , I work forty hours straight for the county when election day rolls around... but I use my 12 yo hotmail account b/c I do n't have time to manage/fix/filter my own server and my old host was the absolute worst spammer of them all.Do n't like my nick ' or think my public email is unprofessional ?
No worries , go ahead and hire the sycophant whose strengths are ass-kissing and keeping up appearances .
Let me know when you need the job done right and it 's almost too late , looming deadlines and performance bonuses are two of my fav 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they don't have time to play mindless little image games like this one.
this whole issue is stupidHear, hear!
I've met impossible deadlines for fantastic rewards from Fortune 500 co's, recently saved a small biz from ruin by manually repairing over 40,000 pieces during their biggest quarter ever, I work forty hours straight for the county when election day rolls around... but I use my 12 yo hotmail account b/c I don't have time to manage/fix/filter my own server and my old host was the absolute worst spammer of them all.Don't like my nick' or think my public email is unprofessional?
No worries, go ahead and hire the sycophant whose strengths are ass-kissing and keeping up appearances.
Let me know when you need the job done right and it's almost too late, looming deadlines and performance bonuses are two of my fav's.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722246</id>
	<title>ah hah!</title>
	<author>SinShiva</author>
	<datestamp>1263221160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>so that's why i can't find a job<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:[</htmltext>
<tokenext>so that 's why i ca n't find a job : [</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so that's why i can't find a job :[</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30730176</id>
	<title>Re:It's what comes before the @ that matters</title>
	<author>KZigurs</author>
	<datestamp>1263210000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>in IT field any candidate (assuming a strong resume) with an AOL address would be a big++. He has sense of humor and the right kind of one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>in IT field any candidate ( assuming a strong resume ) with an AOL address would be a big + + .
He has sense of humor and the right kind of one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in IT field any candidate (assuming a strong resume) with an AOL address would be a big++.
He has sense of humor and the right kind of one.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721918</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722022</id>
	<title>But it was the last domain available!</title>
	<author>paranoid.android</author>
	<datestamp>1263219840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean putting my @clownpenis.fart email address on my resume is a bad idea?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean putting my @ clownpenis.fart email address on my resume is a bad idea ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean putting my @clownpenis.fart email address on my resume is a bad idea?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722448</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Cyner</author>
	<datestamp>1263222120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It also depends on the name itself. When my wife graduated from college I told her she had to dump her Giggle4U###@aol.com address because it was horribly unprofessional. Now it's mostly her name @aol.com; she adamantly refuses to use "my" domain.</p><p>I've looked through resume's before. First thing I look for is a professional polish (including your e-mail address or other obvious dumbass-flags; if you can't make a resume look professional, you're never getting hired by me); then I look for 'experience' related stuff. I'm sure most employers are similar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It also depends on the name itself .
When my wife graduated from college I told her she had to dump her Giggle4U # # # @ aol.com address because it was horribly unprofessional .
Now it 's mostly her name @ aol.com ; she adamantly refuses to use " my " domain.I 've looked through resume 's before .
First thing I look for is a professional polish ( including your e-mail address or other obvious dumbass-flags ; if you ca n't make a resume look professional , you 're never getting hired by me ) ; then I look for 'experience ' related stuff .
I 'm sure most employers are similar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It also depends on the name itself.
When my wife graduated from college I told her she had to dump her Giggle4U###@aol.com address because it was horribly unprofessional.
Now it's mostly her name @aol.com; she adamantly refuses to use "my" domain.I've looked through resume's before.
First thing I look for is a professional polish (including your e-mail address or other obvious dumbass-flags; if you can't make a resume look professional, you're never getting hired by me); then I look for 'experience' related stuff.
I'm sure most employers are similar.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721856</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725734</id>
	<title>No it doesn't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263236820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think it does matter, I've been using the same hotmail address everywhere and I've got a lot of job interviews. Sometimes though it seems that they are not serious about hiring me but I don't give up.</p><p>If you have a job offering for me, email me at HotNHugeMale88@hotmail.com and I'll let you know if I'm interested.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think it does matter , I 've been using the same hotmail address everywhere and I 've got a lot of job interviews .
Sometimes though it seems that they are not serious about hiring me but I do n't give up.If you have a job offering for me , email me at HotNHugeMale88 @ hotmail.com and I 'll let you know if I 'm interested .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think it does matter, I've been using the same hotmail address everywhere and I've got a lot of job interviews.
Sometimes though it seems that they are not serious about hiring me but I don't give up.If you have a job offering for me, email me at HotNHugeMale88@hotmail.com and I'll let you know if I'm interested.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723138</id>
	<title>username is more important</title>
	<author>buddyglass</author>
	<datestamp>1263225420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Other than AOL the only "toxic" email provider I can think of might be Hotmail, and that doesn't really bother me.  I'd be much more put off by someone whose address is <i>fucktheman@gmail.com</i> or similar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Other than AOL the only " toxic " email provider I can think of might be Hotmail , and that does n't really bother me .
I 'd be much more put off by someone whose address is fucktheman @ gmail.com or similar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Other than AOL the only "toxic" email provider I can think of might be Hotmail, and that doesn't really bother me.
I'd be much more put off by someone whose address is fucktheman@gmail.com or similar.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722008</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>fl!ptop</author>
	<datestamp>1263219780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name, but still using @comcast or @aol on their business card for email.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>i can go one better - an attorney client has on his business cards name@laywers.com.  except that the correct domain is lawyer.com.  so every time he gives out a card he takes a pen and scratches out the 's'.  yeah, that looks professional.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name , but still using @ comcast or @ aol on their business card for email .
i can go one better - an attorney client has on his business cards name @ laywers.com .
except that the correct domain is lawyer.com .
so every time he gives out a card he takes a pen and scratches out the 's' .
yeah , that looks professional .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I have to chuckle when I see a small business with a website and their own domain name, but still using @comcast or @aol on their business card for email.
i can go one better - an attorney client has on his business cards name@laywers.com.
except that the correct domain is lawyer.com.
so every time he gives out a card he takes a pen and scratches out the 's'.
yeah, that looks professional.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721856</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723556</id>
	<title>A Good E-Mail Address Really Matters</title>
	<author>Sam H</author>
	<datestamp>1263227460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I use my sam@lastmeasure.zoy.org e-mail address, people who know this successful domain with thousands of visitors immediately take me as seriously as required on the Internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I use my sam @ lastmeasure.zoy.org e-mail address , people who know this successful domain with thousands of visitors immediately take me as seriously as required on the Internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I use my sam@lastmeasure.zoy.org e-mail address, people who know this successful domain with thousands of visitors immediately take me as seriously as required on the Internet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723622</id>
	<title>The wisdom of the herd</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263227760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you live amongst fools, who are riddled with prejudices, then smart as you are, you are at their mercy and will have to adapt.</p><p>These things are self fulfilling; if the crowd believes people with big eyes are witches, then it might make sense for people with big eyes to squint a little - daft as the belief of the crowd might be.</p><p>It's sad that we have to alter our lifestyle to accommodate the whim and chance thought of the massed ranks of fools.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you live amongst fools , who are riddled with prejudices , then smart as you are , you are at their mercy and will have to adapt.These things are self fulfilling ; if the crowd believes people with big eyes are witches , then it might make sense for people with big eyes to squint a little - daft as the belief of the crowd might be.It 's sad that we have to alter our lifestyle to accommodate the whim and chance thought of the massed ranks of fools .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you live amongst fools, who are riddled with prejudices, then smart as you are, you are at their mercy and will have to adapt.These things are self fulfilling; if the crowd believes people with big eyes are witches, then it might make sense for people with big eyes to squint a little - daft as the belief of the crowd might be.It's sad that we have to alter our lifestyle to accommodate the whim and chance thought of the massed ranks of fools.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726912</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1263241800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'd expect them to at least have their own domain name. It doesn't cost THAT much and looks far more professional.</p></div><p>Depends on the domain name, though, right?
</p><p>But really, why do you care whether people are using their own domain name for their email address?  I'm technical enough to set up my own domain and mail server, but sometimes being good at a tech job means weighing the pros and cons and coming up with the best overall solution.  I have a few domains, but I don't use them for anything professional, and I wouldn't particularly want prospective employers looking at the related websites.
</p><p>I could buy a domain just for job hunting (which, depending on my prospective employer, may or may not seem more professional), but then I'd have to set up a mail server.  If I do it at home, I don't have great facilities to make sure it's reliable, fast, and responsive.  If I set it up on a hosted server, then it's really not giving me practical benefits over a webmail provider like Hotmail or Gmail.  I could use Google Apps, but that would provide no benefit over Gmail besides allowing me to use my own domain.
</p><p>So in the best case scenario, I've spent a small amount of time and money to host a single email address for no benefit except that it might possible look more professional to someone (again, depending on my domain name choice and the personal tastes of whoever is looking at my resume).  Yeah, maybe it's still worth it if it gets me a job, but it also seems like a slightly inefficient waste of time.  If I were reviewing resumes, it might impress me more to see someone use efficient, effective, available solutions rather than to spend time and money on a domain for the sake of vanity or keeping up appearances.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd expect them to at least have their own domain name .
It does n't cost THAT much and looks far more professional.Depends on the domain name , though , right ?
But really , why do you care whether people are using their own domain name for their email address ?
I 'm technical enough to set up my own domain and mail server , but sometimes being good at a tech job means weighing the pros and cons and coming up with the best overall solution .
I have a few domains , but I do n't use them for anything professional , and I would n't particularly want prospective employers looking at the related websites .
I could buy a domain just for job hunting ( which , depending on my prospective employer , may or may not seem more professional ) , but then I 'd have to set up a mail server .
If I do it at home , I do n't have great facilities to make sure it 's reliable , fast , and responsive .
If I set it up on a hosted server , then it 's really not giving me practical benefits over a webmail provider like Hotmail or Gmail .
I could use Google Apps , but that would provide no benefit over Gmail besides allowing me to use my own domain .
So in the best case scenario , I 've spent a small amount of time and money to host a single email address for no benefit except that it might possible look more professional to someone ( again , depending on my domain name choice and the personal tastes of whoever is looking at my resume ) .
Yeah , maybe it 's still worth it if it gets me a job , but it also seems like a slightly inefficient waste of time .
If I were reviewing resumes , it might impress me more to see someone use efficient , effective , available solutions rather than to spend time and money on a domain for the sake of vanity or keeping up appearances .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd expect them to at least have their own domain name.
It doesn't cost THAT much and looks far more professional.Depends on the domain name, though, right?
But really, why do you care whether people are using their own domain name for their email address?
I'm technical enough to set up my own domain and mail server, but sometimes being good at a tech job means weighing the pros and cons and coming up with the best overall solution.
I have a few domains, but I don't use them for anything professional, and I wouldn't particularly want prospective employers looking at the related websites.
I could buy a domain just for job hunting (which, depending on my prospective employer, may or may not seem more professional), but then I'd have to set up a mail server.
If I do it at home, I don't have great facilities to make sure it's reliable, fast, and responsive.
If I set it up on a hosted server, then it's really not giving me practical benefits over a webmail provider like Hotmail or Gmail.
I could use Google Apps, but that would provide no benefit over Gmail besides allowing me to use my own domain.
So in the best case scenario, I've spent a small amount of time and money to host a single email address for no benefit except that it might possible look more professional to someone (again, depending on my domain name choice and the personal tastes of whoever is looking at my resume).
Yeah, maybe it's still worth it if it gets me a job, but it also seems like a slightly inefficient waste of time.
If I were reviewing resumes, it might impress me more to see someone use efficient, effective, available solutions rather than to spend time and money on a domain for the sake of vanity or keeping up appearances.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724250</id>
	<title>Re:nicknames of the upmodded comments so far:</title>
	<author>fprintf</author>
	<datestamp>1263230880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So does that mean I get extra points when applying for a C programming position?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So does that mean I get extra points when applying for a C programming position ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So does that mean I get extra points when applying for a C programming position?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722216</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721908</id>
	<title>Probably yes</title>
	<author>Winchestershire</author>
	<datestamp>1263219300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It would certainly make a person feel the person doesn't keep up with the latest information.  Ex:  An accountant or a tax professional might seem less inclined to keep up with the latest changes in their perspective fields; at least in the eyes of perspective clients.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would certainly make a person feel the person does n't keep up with the latest information .
Ex : An accountant or a tax professional might seem less inclined to keep up with the latest changes in their perspective fields ; at least in the eyes of perspective clients .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would certainly make a person feel the person doesn't keep up with the latest information.
Ex:  An accountant or a tax professional might seem less inclined to keep up with the latest changes in their perspective fields; at least in the eyes of perspective clients.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722890</id>
	<title>IT job?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263224100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the job has anything to do with IT then i would throw any apps with a @aol.com address into the trash.  Any other Non-IT Type job, as long as the address professional before the @ part, it should make no difference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the job has anything to do with IT then i would throw any apps with a @ aol.com address into the trash .
Any other Non-IT Type job , as long as the address professional before the @ part , it should make no difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the job has anything to do with IT then i would throw any apps with a @aol.com address into the trash.
Any other Non-IT Type job, as long as the address professional before the @ part, it should make no difference.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723262</id>
	<title>Re:Username matters too</title>
	<author>bickerdyke</author>
	<datestamp>1263225960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My Nickname has a first and last name! (you insensitive clod?) "Bickerdyke" is the last name. (and of course entered the full name in my Email-From...)</p><p>12 years ago when I did an internship, it took my 2-lvls-up-manager a few days to realize that I'm NOT Mr Bickerdyke<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My Nickname has a first and last name !
( you insensitive clod ?
) " Bickerdyke " is the last name .
( and of course entered the full name in my Email-From... ) 12 years ago when I did an internship , it took my 2-lvls-up-manager a few days to realize that I 'm NOT Mr Bickerdyke : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Nickname has a first and last name!
(you insensitive clod?
) "Bickerdyke" is the last name.
(and of course entered the full name in my Email-From...)12 years ago when I did an internship, it took my 2-lvls-up-manager a few days to realize that I'm NOT Mr Bickerdyke :-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722122</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724174</id>
	<title>At the same time...</title>
	<author>denzacar</author>
	<datestamp>1263230460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An accountant doing the same would probably come off as highly professional.</p><p>Even more so if he later asked to have his card back. Those things don't grow on trees you know.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An accountant doing the same would probably come off as highly professional.Even more so if he later asked to have his card back .
Those things do n't grow on trees you know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An accountant doing the same would probably come off as highly professional.Even more so if he later asked to have his card back.
Those things don't grow on trees you know.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722008</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725974</id>
	<title>Re:I don't think it will cost you a job.</title>
	<author>Conspiracy\_Of\_Doves</author>
	<datestamp>1263238140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had usa.net long ago, too. I left them when they became a pay service. Been using yahoo ever since.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had usa.net long ago , too .
I left them when they became a pay service .
Been using yahoo ever since .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had usa.net long ago, too.
I left them when they became a pay service.
Been using yahoo ever since.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30721852</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722212</id>
	<title>Re:I don't think it will cost you a job.</title>
	<author>arth1</author>
	<datestamp>1263220860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>but it sure will make you look a bit dopey if you're still rolling with hotmail or aol.</i><br>"Still"?  It's not a question of <i>still</i>, but <i>ever</i>.</p><p>If you ever willingly not only used AOL, but also used their e-mail, you have quite clearly shown a lack of technical aptitude in the past, and you can't grow it any more than you can grow a sense of rhythm.  You can gain knowledge and even develop an interest, but you still lack a desirable quality.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>but it sure will make you look a bit dopey if you 're still rolling with hotmail or aol. " Still " ?
It 's not a question of still , but ever.If you ever willingly not only used AOL , but also used their e-mail , you have quite clearly shown a lack of technical aptitude in the past , and you ca n't grow it any more than you can grow a sense of rhythm .
You can gain knowledge and even develop an interest , but you still lack a desirable quality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but it sure will make you look a bit dopey if you're still rolling with hotmail or aol."Still"?
It's not a question of still, but ever.If you ever willingly not only used AOL, but also used their e-mail, you have quite clearly shown a lack of technical aptitude in the past, and you can't grow it any more than you can grow a sense of rhythm.
You can gain knowledge and even develop an interest, but you still lack a desirable quality.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722552</id>
	<title>And what if you work for AOL?</title>
	<author>jimbob666</author>
	<datestamp>1263222600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And what if you work for AOL? No escape then.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And what if you work for AOL ?
No escape then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And what if you work for AOL?
No escape then.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30722300</id>
	<title>Can be interesting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263221400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll often have a look at their domain if its a non-standard one. If they have a personal website (even if its not advertised on their resume), it can give you some guidance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll often have a look at their domain if its a non-standard one .
If they have a personal website ( even if its not advertised on their resume ) , it can give you some guidance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll often have a look at their domain if its a non-standard one.
If they have a personal website (even if its not advertised on their resume), it can give you some guidance.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724614</id>
	<title>Re:You're kidding, right?</title>
	<author>SillySilly</author>
	<datestamp>1263232620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What's next, not hiring someone because the name of the street they live on is dorky?</p></div><p>What, like <a href="http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&amp;ll=42.310936,-71.358816&amp;spn=0.001452,0.002221&amp;z=19" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">this?</a> [google.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's next , not hiring someone because the name of the street they live on is dorky ? What , like this ?
[ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's next, not hiring someone because the name of the street they live on is dorky?What, like this?
[google.com]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30731444</id>
	<title>Re:It's what comes before the @ that matters</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263216780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>However, there is one type of e-mail address that does cause me concern. This is the obvious "naughty" one. I've actually seen job applications listing addresses like partychick33@... or drunkenmick@... These do not give a good impression. Is it unfair? Probably. After all, there's nothing wrong with going out and enjoying yourself. However, using that e-mail address for a job application does imply that you have a problem when dealing with boundaries.</p></div><p>It's a matter of professionalism. You change your clothes for the interview to appear more professional, attention to your email address also  shows how much (or little) you are paying attention to your overall image.<br>It's not that difficult to get another email address, and sometimes the address might be important. For example, if I was hiring to fill a position at the Battered Woman's Shelter, the guy with an email address of "BabeStalker726" isn't going to get a callback, and the Addiction Counselor with "HempBuddy420" is going to end up in the same boat.</p><p>On a similar note, consideration of your email address is very important for business contacts. When I see ads for businesses that list their email and they use aol.com it throws up the red-flag of "Cheapskate company". Also lumped into this is category are email addresses provided by ISP's. If you're running a company, get a domain name for you email contact.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>However , there is one type of e-mail address that does cause me concern .
This is the obvious " naughty " one .
I 've actually seen job applications listing addresses like partychick33 @ ... or drunkenmick @ ... These do not give a good impression .
Is it unfair ?
Probably. After all , there 's nothing wrong with going out and enjoying yourself .
However , using that e-mail address for a job application does imply that you have a problem when dealing with boundaries.It 's a matter of professionalism .
You change your clothes for the interview to appear more professional , attention to your email address also shows how much ( or little ) you are paying attention to your overall image.It 's not that difficult to get another email address , and sometimes the address might be important .
For example , if I was hiring to fill a position at the Battered Woman 's Shelter , the guy with an email address of " BabeStalker726 " is n't going to get a callback , and the Addiction Counselor with " HempBuddy420 " is going to end up in the same boat.On a similar note , consideration of your email address is very important for business contacts .
When I see ads for businesses that list their email and they use aol.com it throws up the red-flag of " Cheapskate company " .
Also lumped into this is category are email addresses provided by ISP 's .
If you 're running a company , get a domain name for you email contact .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>However, there is one type of e-mail address that does cause me concern.
This is the obvious "naughty" one.
I've actually seen job applications listing addresses like partychick33@... or drunkenmick@... These do not give a good impression.
Is it unfair?
Probably. After all, there's nothing wrong with going out and enjoying yourself.
However, using that e-mail address for a job application does imply that you have a problem when dealing with boundaries.It's a matter of professionalism.
You change your clothes for the interview to appear more professional, attention to your email address also  shows how much (or little) you are paying attention to your overall image.It's not that difficult to get another email address, and sometimes the address might be important.
For example, if I was hiring to fill a position at the Battered Woman's Shelter, the guy with an email address of "BabeStalker726" isn't going to get a callback, and the Addiction Counselor with "HempBuddy420" is going to end up in the same boat.On a similar note, consideration of your email address is very important for business contacts.
When I see ads for businesses that list their email and they use aol.com it throws up the red-flag of "Cheapskate company".
Also lumped into this is category are email addresses provided by ISP's.
If you're running a company, get a domain name for you email contact.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30725370</id>
	<title>Greater chance of spam filtering delays...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263235320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the corporate systems I admin, almost all email coming from generic-type domains and ISP's such as aol, hotmail, peoplepc, etc., automatically goes on hold and is manually released after being given a once-over by real human eyeballs (the hold queue is checked perhaps once an hour, but could be longer). This is due to the greater amount of spam originating from these domains, and the lesser probability that it will be anything good. So there will definitely be a delay in the time it takes an email from one of these services to reach its intended recipient. Meanwhile, joeschmoe@betterdomain.com will likely sail right on through.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the corporate systems I admin , almost all email coming from generic-type domains and ISP 's such as aol , hotmail , peoplepc , etc. , automatically goes on hold and is manually released after being given a once-over by real human eyeballs ( the hold queue is checked perhaps once an hour , but could be longer ) .
This is due to the greater amount of spam originating from these domains , and the lesser probability that it will be anything good .
So there will definitely be a delay in the time it takes an email from one of these services to reach its intended recipient .
Meanwhile , joeschmoe @ betterdomain.com will likely sail right on through .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the corporate systems I admin, almost all email coming from generic-type domains and ISP's such as aol, hotmail, peoplepc, etc., automatically goes on hold and is manually released after being given a once-over by real human eyeballs (the hold queue is checked perhaps once an hour, but could be longer).
This is due to the greater amount of spam originating from these domains, and the lesser probability that it will be anything good.
So there will definitely be a delay in the time it takes an email from one of these services to reach its intended recipient.
Meanwhile, joeschmoe@betterdomain.com will likely sail right on through.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726652</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263241020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Gee, I'm a lawyer and I'm nothing like that.  Maybe you've met some from The Dark Side....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gee , I 'm a lawyer and I 'm nothing like that .
Maybe you 've met some from The Dark Side... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gee, I'm a lawyer and I'm nothing like that.
Maybe you've met some from The Dark Side....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723384</id>
	<title>Of course it does...</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1263226620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...just like everything else you do in an application process. Duh.</p><p>Everything about you should confer a sense of professionalism and competence. How you dress rarely has any direct impact on your performance, but if you dress lame for the interview then it shows you either don't know how or don't care. Same if your application uses language that is informative but too casual for a formal written application and so on.</p><p>Those kind of points can really only work one way, against you. They're not buying the suit, they're buying the man in the suit and it'll never land you the job. It's just seeing whether you'll rub people the wrong way, be it customers, coworkers, managers or whoever else you have to relate to. You are going to work with many people you wouldn't hang out with, after all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...just like everything else you do in an application process .
Duh.Everything about you should confer a sense of professionalism and competence .
How you dress rarely has any direct impact on your performance , but if you dress lame for the interview then it shows you either do n't know how or do n't care .
Same if your application uses language that is informative but too casual for a formal written application and so on.Those kind of points can really only work one way , against you .
They 're not buying the suit , they 're buying the man in the suit and it 'll never land you the job .
It 's just seeing whether you 'll rub people the wrong way , be it customers , coworkers , managers or whoever else you have to relate to .
You are going to work with many people you would n't hang out with , after all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...just like everything else you do in an application process.
Duh.Everything about you should confer a sense of professionalism and competence.
How you dress rarely has any direct impact on your performance, but if you dress lame for the interview then it shows you either don't know how or don't care.
Same if your application uses language that is informative but too casual for a formal written application and so on.Those kind of points can really only work one way, against you.
They're not buying the suit, they're buying the man in the suit and it'll never land you the job.
It's just seeing whether you'll rub people the wrong way, be it customers, coworkers, managers or whoever else you have to relate to.
You are going to work with many people you wouldn't hang out with, after all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723206</id>
	<title>Crusty Engineers...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263225660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Without a personal recommendation from someone I know and trust? Yes. <br> <br>
Exception being niche areas. As an example, my boss showed me an advertisement for a parts supplier. The fact that it <i>was</i> an @aol address was to me reassuring. Mainly because the parts are for "programmable" electronics made in 1983. To put it in perspective, if an EEPROM becomes badly corrupted the engineers familiar enough with these systems to help are retired.
<br> <br>
I assume it's EEPROM anyway. Anything else that can be reprogrammed via the standard system interface and is non-volatile from that time period?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Without a personal recommendation from someone I know and trust ?
Yes . Exception being niche areas .
As an example , my boss showed me an advertisement for a parts supplier .
The fact that it was an @ aol address was to me reassuring .
Mainly because the parts are for " programmable " electronics made in 1983 .
To put it in perspective , if an EEPROM becomes badly corrupted the engineers familiar enough with these systems to help are retired .
I assume it 's EEPROM anyway .
Anything else that can be reprogrammed via the standard system interface and is non-volatile from that time period ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Without a personal recommendation from someone I know and trust?
Yes.  
Exception being niche areas.
As an example, my boss showed me an advertisement for a parts supplier.
The fact that it was an @aol address was to me reassuring.
Mainly because the parts are for "programmable" electronics made in 1983.
To put it in perspective, if an EEPROM becomes badly corrupted the engineers familiar enough with these systems to help are retired.
I assume it's EEPROM anyway.
Anything else that can be reprogrammed via the standard system interface and is non-volatile from that time period?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30723506</id>
	<title>Many email addresses fail</title>
	<author>dandart</author>
	<datestamp>1263227220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you have an MSN email address for example (e.g. @msn.com.@hotmail.com), some email might fail, or not get sent to you, because of something to do with MX servers and the fact that Hotmail throws away suspicious stuff, really paranoid-y, instead of throwing it in your spam box. Also a lot of companies think "This person isn't paying for email. Let's block Hotmail emails" - which I have seen a couple of times.
<br> <br>
Why not have a  catch-all email on your domain? It's rather handy as you can sign up to things like myname\_thecompany@mydomain.com - and then if the company sells it off, you'll know who did it and you can get people fired. I have heard of a guy that got 3 people fired for that. Perhaps it was on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. .</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you have an MSN email address for example ( e.g .
@ msn.com. @ hotmail.com ) , some email might fail , or not get sent to you , because of something to do with MX servers and the fact that Hotmail throws away suspicious stuff , really paranoid-y , instead of throwing it in your spam box .
Also a lot of companies think " This person is n't paying for email .
Let 's block Hotmail emails " - which I have seen a couple of times .
Why not have a catch-all email on your domain ?
It 's rather handy as you can sign up to things like myname \ _thecompany @ mydomain.com - and then if the company sells it off , you 'll know who did it and you can get people fired .
I have heard of a guy that got 3 people fired for that .
Perhaps it was on / .
.</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you have an MSN email address for example (e.g.
@msn.com.@hotmail.com), some email might fail, or not get sent to you, because of something to do with MX servers and the fact that Hotmail throws away suspicious stuff, really paranoid-y, instead of throwing it in your spam box.
Also a lot of companies think "This person isn't paying for email.
Let's block Hotmail emails" - which I have seen a couple of times.
Why not have a  catch-all email on your domain?
It's rather handy as you can sign up to things like myname\_thecompany@mydomain.com - and then if the company sells it off, you'll know who did it and you can get people fired.
I have heard of a guy that got 3 people fired for that.
Perhaps it was on /.
.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30729002</id>
	<title>Re:Actually yes -- in some cases</title>
	<author>asackett</author>
	<datestamp>1263205500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're a lawyer who reads slashdot. You're far from typical!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're a lawyer who reads slashdot .
You 're far from typical !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're a lawyer who reads slashdot.
You're far from typical!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724134</id>
	<title>Re:nicknames of the upmodded comments so far:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263230280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, but it's not like I write Anonymous Coward on my resumes...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , but it 's not like I write Anonymous Coward on my resumes.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, but it's not like I write Anonymous Coward on my resumes...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30726446</id>
	<title>Re:Email addresses reveal a lot about the applican</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1263240120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>throw out people with unprofessional emails or people who live <b>to</b> far away</i></p><p>Eye wood knot higher any on tat relied two mach on his spill chucker<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>throw out people with unprofessional emails or people who live to far awayEye wood knot higher any on tat relied two mach on his spill chucker ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>throw out people with unprofessional emails or people who live to far awayEye wood knot higher any on tat relied two mach on his spill chucker ;)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724514</id>
	<title>@AOL = conservative and/or old?</title>
	<author>InsertCleverUsername</author>
	<datestamp>1263232140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The ugly truth about many prejudices is that when you know nothing but one little piece of information, they're usually better than a coin flip.  (Of course, intelligent people always try to get more/better data and judge individuals, not generalities.)</p><p>When I see an AOL, Compuserve, or even Yahoo e-mail address, I usually suspect the person is either old, technologically hopeless, or conservative --likely all three.  The constellation makes intuitive sense to me; these are folks that value familiarity over innovation.  This is not an empirical assumption, but based off the e-mail forwards and forum posts I see from people on these services.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The ugly truth about many prejudices is that when you know nothing but one little piece of information , they 're usually better than a coin flip .
( Of course , intelligent people always try to get more/better data and judge individuals , not generalities .
) When I see an AOL , Compuserve , or even Yahoo e-mail address , I usually suspect the person is either old , technologically hopeless , or conservative --likely all three .
The constellation makes intuitive sense to me ; these are folks that value familiarity over innovation .
This is not an empirical assumption , but based off the e-mail forwards and forum posts I see from people on these services .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The ugly truth about many prejudices is that when you know nothing but one little piece of information, they're usually better than a coin flip.
(Of course, intelligent people always try to get more/better data and judge individuals, not generalities.
)When I see an AOL, Compuserve, or even Yahoo e-mail address, I usually suspect the person is either old, technologically hopeless, or conservative --likely all three.
The constellation makes intuitive sense to me; these are folks that value familiarity over innovation.
This is not an empirical assumption, but based off the e-mail forwards and forum posts I see from people on these services.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1016237.30724736</id>
	<title>Perhaps it depends on the position?</title>
	<author>LoudMusic</author>
	<datestamp>1263233100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the job position has to be taken into account. We were recently hiring for an IT role and had applicants with hotmail, AOL, gmail, yahoo, and personal domain email addresses. One of the main things we do is provide email to our clients. Anyone running their own mail server is clearly ahead of the game. Anyone still using AOL or Hotmail hasn't paid enough attention to email to be concerned with spam filtering or other quality services. We still interviewed these people, and my coworkers might not have held it against them, but anyone using a Hotmail address has serious marks against them for a mail administrator role, the way I see it.</p><p>But a job that isn't an IT role, you can't expect them to know better<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the job position has to be taken into account .
We were recently hiring for an IT role and had applicants with hotmail , AOL , gmail , yahoo , and personal domain email addresses .
One of the main things we do is provide email to our clients .
Anyone running their own mail server is clearly ahead of the game .
Anyone still using AOL or Hotmail has n't paid enough attention to email to be concerned with spam filtering or other quality services .
We still interviewed these people , and my coworkers might not have held it against them , but anyone using a Hotmail address has serious marks against them for a mail administrator role , the way I see it.But a job that is n't an IT role , you ca n't expect them to know better ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the job position has to be taken into account.
We were recently hiring for an IT role and had applicants with hotmail, AOL, gmail, yahoo, and personal domain email addresses.
One of the main things we do is provide email to our clients.
Anyone running their own mail server is clearly ahead of the game.
Anyone still using AOL or Hotmail hasn't paid enough attention to email to be concerned with spam filtering or other quality services.
We still interviewed these people, and my coworkers might not have held it against them, but anyone using a Hotmail address has serious marks against them for a mail administrator role, the way I see it.But a job that isn't an IT role, you can't expect them to know better ;)</sentencetext>
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