<article>
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	<title>Why Everyone Has High Hopes For Apple Tablet</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1262963460000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>waderoush writes <i>"The deafening roar of anticipation around Apple's expected 'iSlate' announcement on January 27 is strange, to say the least, given the public's utter apathy about tablet computers to date. What's going on? <a href="http://www.xconomy.com/national/2010/01/08/tablet-fever-how-apple-could-go-where-no-computer-maker-has-gone-before/">Xconomy's analysis makes three points</a>. 1) Previous tablet makers have shown little imagination around UIs and how a touchscreen changes things. 2) With the iPhone, Apple has shown what's possible in this regard. 3) There's latent demand for a mobile computing device that's smaller and lighter than a laptop but has more screen real estate than a smartphone &mdash; something reminiscent of a Star Trek tricorder or PADD. Hence the hopes for the iSlate &mdash; which are so high that it may be difficult for even Apple to meet them."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>waderoush writes " The deafening roar of anticipation around Apple 's expected 'iSlate ' announcement on January 27 is strange , to say the least , given the public 's utter apathy about tablet computers to date .
What 's going on ?
Xconomy 's analysis makes three points .
1 ) Previous tablet makers have shown little imagination around UIs and how a touchscreen changes things .
2 ) With the iPhone , Apple has shown what 's possible in this regard .
3 ) There 's latent demand for a mobile computing device that 's smaller and lighter than a laptop but has more screen real estate than a smartphone    something reminiscent of a Star Trek tricorder or PADD .
Hence the hopes for the iSlate    which are so high that it may be difficult for even Apple to meet them .
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<sentencetext>waderoush writes "The deafening roar of anticipation around Apple's expected 'iSlate' announcement on January 27 is strange, to say the least, given the public's utter apathy about tablet computers to date.
What's going on?
Xconomy's analysis makes three points.
1) Previous tablet makers have shown little imagination around UIs and how a touchscreen changes things.
2) With the iPhone, Apple has shown what's possible in this regard.
3) There's latent demand for a mobile computing device that's smaller and lighter than a laptop but has more screen real estate than a smartphone — something reminiscent of a Star Trek tricorder or PADD.
Hence the hopes for the iSlate — which are so high that it may be difficult for even Apple to meet them.
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	<title>I wish Apple would make...</title>
	<author>chemindefer</author>
	<datestamp>1262981700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
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	<htmltext>a penis enlarger that "just worked".</htmltext>
<tokenext>a penis enlarger that " just worked " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a penis enlarger that "just worked".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697242</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>Kimen</author>
	<datestamp>1262976960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Apple tries a lot of things and they fail more often than they succeed. </p></div><p>I would suggest looking at the "Steve" era mostly and I would also disagree with this assertion.

</p><p>However, the important point was "Apple tries a lot of things".  In fact quality gurus often suggest trying 10 things, failing at 9, and having one runaway success is better than trying 1 thing and running the risk of it failing.</p><p>The Apple announcement may be a device that will be another Pippin failure or another iPhone hit.  I for one am very interested in what it is because we (and they) will learn from it, good or bad.</p><p>(By the way, the deafining roar is only the media; move on, nothing new here<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></div>
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<tokenext>Apple tries a lot of things and they fail more often than they succeed .
I would suggest looking at the " Steve " era mostly and I would also disagree with this assertion .
However , the important point was " Apple tries a lot of things " .
In fact quality gurus often suggest trying 10 things , failing at 9 , and having one runaway success is better than trying 1 thing and running the risk of it failing.The Apple announcement may be a device that will be another Pippin failure or another iPhone hit .
I for one am very interested in what it is because we ( and they ) will learn from it , good or bad .
( By the way , the deafining roar is only the media ; move on , nothing new here : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple tries a lot of things and they fail more often than they succeed.
I would suggest looking at the "Steve" era mostly and I would also disagree with this assertion.
However, the important point was "Apple tries a lot of things".
In fact quality gurus often suggest trying 10 things, failing at 9, and having one runaway success is better than trying 1 thing and running the risk of it failing.The Apple announcement may be a device that will be another Pippin failure or another iPhone hit.
I for one am very interested in what it is because we (and they) will learn from it, good or bad.
(By the way, the deafining roar is only the media; move on, nothing new here :-)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30711604</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263048840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. The Newton. Palm made this work. Not Apple. Later on Apple copied the Treo format (phone + PDA) Palm made popular and merged it with a virtual keyboard.<br>--&gt; Apple copied the Treo formula and made it work as expected by the user.</p><p>2. Apple Pippin. Failed game/multimedia console. Nintendo64 and PS2 got it right.<br>--&gt; Fair enough.</p><p>3. Power Mac G4 Cube. Failed on the market. Infamous for cracking case. Now, there's no shortage of small cube PCs. The PC world got this right.<br>--&gt;The PC world got this right many years after Apple tried it, and shortly after Apple arguably got it right with the Mac Mini.</p><p>4. Apple QuickTake. Failed digital camera. Everyone gets this right.<br>--&gt;  Many years before everyone else.  Also, they were re-branded from (mostly) Kodak, who still don't get it right.</p><p>5. Macintosh TV. Failed TV/PC combo. Now TV is just a PCI card away or done with steaming/downloading.<br>--&gt;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...many years later.</p><p>6. Apple's "Hockey Puck" USB Mouse. No one gets this right because its such a bad idea.<br>--&gt; Agreed.</p><p>7. eMate. Low cost Newton based PC. OLPC and others get this right.<br>--&gt;OLPC was 9 YEARS after the eMate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
The Newton .
Palm made this work .
Not Apple .
Later on Apple copied the Treo format ( phone + PDA ) Palm made popular and merged it with a virtual keyboard.-- &gt; Apple copied the Treo formula and made it work as expected by the user.2 .
Apple Pippin .
Failed game/multimedia console .
Nintendo64 and PS2 got it right.-- &gt; Fair enough.3 .
Power Mac G4 Cube .
Failed on the market .
Infamous for cracking case .
Now , there 's no shortage of small cube PCs .
The PC world got this right.-- &gt; The PC world got this right many years after Apple tried it , and shortly after Apple arguably got it right with the Mac Mini.4 .
Apple QuickTake .
Failed digital camera .
Everyone gets this right.-- &gt; Many years before everyone else .
Also , they were re-branded from ( mostly ) Kodak , who still do n't get it right.5 .
Macintosh TV .
Failed TV/PC combo .
Now TV is just a PCI card away or done with steaming/downloading.-- &gt; ...many years later.6 .
Apple 's " Hockey Puck " USB Mouse .
No one gets this right because its such a bad idea.-- &gt; Agreed.7 .
eMate. Low cost Newton based PC .
OLPC and others get this right.-- &gt; OLPC was 9 YEARS after the eMate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
The Newton.
Palm made this work.
Not Apple.
Later on Apple copied the Treo format (phone + PDA) Palm made popular and merged it with a virtual keyboard.--&gt; Apple copied the Treo formula and made it work as expected by the user.2.
Apple Pippin.
Failed game/multimedia console.
Nintendo64 and PS2 got it right.--&gt; Fair enough.3.
Power Mac G4 Cube.
Failed on the market.
Infamous for cracking case.
Now, there's no shortage of small cube PCs.
The PC world got this right.--&gt;The PC world got this right many years after Apple tried it, and shortly after Apple arguably got it right with the Mac Mini.4.
Apple QuickTake.
Failed digital camera.
Everyone gets this right.--&gt;  Many years before everyone else.
Also, they were re-branded from (mostly) Kodak, who still don't get it right.5.
Macintosh TV.
Failed TV/PC combo.
Now TV is just a PCI card away or done with steaming/downloading.--&gt; ...many years later.6.
Apple's "Hockey Puck" USB Mouse.
No one gets this right because its such a bad idea.--&gt; Agreed.7.
eMate. Low cost Newton based PC.
OLPC and others get this right.--&gt;OLPC was 9 YEARS after the eMate.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697728</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>MattSausage</author>
	<datestamp>1262978820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One small dissent to the above... It was the Dreamcast that got the game console right. The PS2 was a glorified DVD player for it's first six months. The nintendo 64 was good too.. but it was no Dreamcast.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One small dissent to the above... It was the Dreamcast that got the game console right .
The PS2 was a glorified DVD player for it 's first six months .
The nintendo 64 was good too.. but it was no Dreamcast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One small dissent to the above... It was the Dreamcast that got the game console right.
The PS2 was a glorified DVD player for it's first six months.
The nintendo 64 was good too.. but it was no Dreamcast.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694716</id>
	<title>Re:1 word. Niche application</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262967480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The majority of PAD users aren't going to give 2 flips for photoshop, per se. For the most part, they'll be doing what people do now. Email, IM, shopping, surfing. Writing and now, reading.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The majority of PAD users are n't going to give 2 flips for photoshop , per se .
For the most part , they 'll be doing what people do now .
Email , IM , shopping , surfing .
Writing and now , reading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The majority of PAD users aren't going to give 2 flips for photoshop, per se.
For the most part, they'll be doing what people do now.
Email, IM, shopping, surfing.
Writing and now, reading.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695590</id>
	<title>Form factor</title>
	<author>MikeURL</author>
	<datestamp>1262970540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So far there seem to be three form factors.  One is the smartphone and, generally, you can fit it in your pocket.  Another is the laptop and, generally, you need a case to carry it.  Finally there is the desktop and that doesn't move around with you at all.
<br> <br>
The reason, I think, that tablets have been greeted with a yawn is that they essentially fall into the same form factor as the laptop but they are a lot less powerful.  I think a game changer would be if some very clever engineer figured out how to fit a "fold out" or flip out screen the size of a tablet in a smartphone form factor when folded or unflipped.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So far there seem to be three form factors .
One is the smartphone and , generally , you can fit it in your pocket .
Another is the laptop and , generally , you need a case to carry it .
Finally there is the desktop and that does n't move around with you at all .
The reason , I think , that tablets have been greeted with a yawn is that they essentially fall into the same form factor as the laptop but they are a lot less powerful .
I think a game changer would be if some very clever engineer figured out how to fit a " fold out " or flip out screen the size of a tablet in a smartphone form factor when folded or unflipped .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So far there seem to be three form factors.
One is the smartphone and, generally, you can fit it in your pocket.
Another is the laptop and, generally, you need a case to carry it.
Finally there is the desktop and that doesn't move around with you at all.
The reason, I think, that tablets have been greeted with a yawn is that they essentially fall into the same form factor as the laptop but they are a lot less powerful.
I think a game changer would be if some very clever engineer figured out how to fit a "fold out" or flip out screen the size of a tablet in a smartphone form factor when folded or unflipped.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695784</id>
	<title>Re:LOL WUT?</title>
	<author>SnapShot</author>
	<datestamp>1262971200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Let's be clear, if it's not e-ink or similar, this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReader</p></div></blockquote><p>True, but I think it explains some of the hype.  While it's not directed at the same market as the Kindle, the size and interaction may be similar enough to be riding that wave a little bit.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's be clear , if it 's not e-ink or similar , this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReaderTrue , but I think it explains some of the hype .
While it 's not directed at the same market as the Kindle , the size and interaction may be similar enough to be riding that wave a little bit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's be clear, if it's not e-ink or similar, this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReaderTrue, but I think it explains some of the hype.
While it's not directed at the same market as the Kindle, the size and interaction may be similar enough to be riding that wave a little bit.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695950</id>
	<title>Re:1 word. Niche application</title>
	<author>jellomizer</author>
	<datestamp>1262971740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is no Majority of PAD users...</p><p>That is one of apples strong suit... When they make a product they come up with uses for it to make them useful.</p><p>What you stated can be done on the iPhone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is no Majority of PAD users...That is one of apples strong suit... When they make a product they come up with uses for it to make them useful.What you stated can be done on the iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is no Majority of PAD users...That is one of apples strong suit... When they make a product they come up with uses for it to make them useful.What you stated can be done on the iPhone.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30705484</id>
	<title>Pants are overrated.</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1263069000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>My wife has been using the 21" Cintiq for five years now for her graphics work for her job.  She uses it all day, every day, and not only finds it the perfect tool for art, but also finds it vastly more intuitive for regular use than a mouse or trackpad.Even I, who have no artistic talent whatsoever, find it easier to draw on a Cintiq than on either paper or a separate drawing tablet.Maybe you just aren't all that good at using it?Dan Aris</p></div></blockquote></div>
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<tokenext>My wife has been using the 21 " Cintiq for five years now for her graphics work for her job .
She uses it all day , every day , and not only finds it the perfect tool for art , but also finds it vastly more intuitive for regular use than a mouse or trackpad.Even I , who have no artistic talent whatsoever , find it easier to draw on a Cintiq than on either paper or a separate drawing tablet.Maybe you just are n't all that good at using it ? Dan Aris</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My wife has been using the 21" Cintiq for five years now for her graphics work for her job.
She uses it all day, every day, and not only finds it the perfect tool for art, but also finds it vastly more intuitive for regular use than a mouse or trackpad.Even I, who have no artistic talent whatsoever, find it easier to draw on a Cintiq than on either paper or a separate drawing tablet.Maybe you just aren't all that good at using it?Dan Aris
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30711648</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>Xest</author>
	<datestamp>1263049080000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, I really liked this part of the summary:</p><p>"3) There's latent demand for a mobile computing device that's smaller and lighter than a laptop but has more screen real estate than a smartphone -- something reminiscent of a Star Trek tricorder or PADD."</p><p>smaller and lighter than a laptop, but more screen real estate than a smartphone- something reminiscent of a Star Trek tricorder or PADD... or, erm, I don't know, say, a netbook?</p><p>Tablets are pointless because although they solve the small size problem of mobiles they don't solve the crippled input problem of mobiles. Netbooks are smaller than normal laptops and so are highly portable, but they're bigger than mobiles so don't have the limitations of them as they can be both more powerful and offer a much better set of features and a set of much easier to use input offerings. Hell, there's no reason netbooks can't also have touch screens to do everything a tablet can anyway. Plenty of laptops have already done this in the past- allowed you to fold the screen to turn it into a tablet. Couple this with the size of a netbook and the thinness of some of the newer netbooks and really, you begin to realise that tablets are absolutely nothing more than just extremely crippled laptops/netbooks at the end of the day.</p><p>There is absolutely no problem that a tablet solves that can't be better solved by either a smartphone or a well designed netbook depend on the problem in question.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , I really liked this part of the summary : " 3 ) There 's latent demand for a mobile computing device that 's smaller and lighter than a laptop but has more screen real estate than a smartphone -- something reminiscent of a Star Trek tricorder or PADD .
" smaller and lighter than a laptop , but more screen real estate than a smartphone- something reminiscent of a Star Trek tricorder or PADD... or , erm , I do n't know , say , a netbook ? Tablets are pointless because although they solve the small size problem of mobiles they do n't solve the crippled input problem of mobiles .
Netbooks are smaller than normal laptops and so are highly portable , but they 're bigger than mobiles so do n't have the limitations of them as they can be both more powerful and offer a much better set of features and a set of much easier to use input offerings .
Hell , there 's no reason netbooks ca n't also have touch screens to do everything a tablet can anyway .
Plenty of laptops have already done this in the past- allowed you to fold the screen to turn it into a tablet .
Couple this with the size of a netbook and the thinness of some of the newer netbooks and really , you begin to realise that tablets are absolutely nothing more than just extremely crippled laptops/netbooks at the end of the day.There is absolutely no problem that a tablet solves that ca n't be better solved by either a smartphone or a well designed netbook depend on the problem in question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I really liked this part of the summary:"3) There's latent demand for a mobile computing device that's smaller and lighter than a laptop but has more screen real estate than a smartphone -- something reminiscent of a Star Trek tricorder or PADD.
"smaller and lighter than a laptop, but more screen real estate than a smartphone- something reminiscent of a Star Trek tricorder or PADD... or, erm, I don't know, say, a netbook?Tablets are pointless because although they solve the small size problem of mobiles they don't solve the crippled input problem of mobiles.
Netbooks are smaller than normal laptops and so are highly portable, but they're bigger than mobiles so don't have the limitations of them as they can be both more powerful and offer a much better set of features and a set of much easier to use input offerings.
Hell, there's no reason netbooks can't also have touch screens to do everything a tablet can anyway.
Plenty of laptops have already done this in the past- allowed you to fold the screen to turn it into a tablet.
Couple this with the size of a netbook and the thinness of some of the newer netbooks and really, you begin to realise that tablets are absolutely nothing more than just extremely crippled laptops/netbooks at the end of the day.There is absolutely no problem that a tablet solves that can't be better solved by either a smartphone or a well designed netbook depend on the problem in question.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695974</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>Al Dimond</author>
	<datestamp>1262971800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree, intuitively, that tablets, as they've existed so far, are awkward if you want to use them for a long time. But I think laptops have similar problems, and that hasn't stopped them from overtaking desktops (to such an extent that even though it would be possible to fold some laptop innovations to desktop computers nobody bothers because margins are so slim). Ergonomically if you're sitting down your input controls should be close to your lap, and the display a couple feet away and at eye level. Laptops can't achieve that, and tablets are even farther from it.</p><p>If this tablet is big enough that you can't comfortably hold it up to your face like a book (or cell phone, or Kindle) it is 100\% Full Of Fail, guaranteed. Any time you didn't have a desk right in front of you you'd have to crane your neck to use it. I do think a device the size and weight of a Kindle, netbook-level processing power, a general-purpose OS, and an iPhone-like screen, could work. For people like me that would be interested in doing lots of typing, the company could make a USB keyboard/trackball combo that you can mount the tablet onto, holding it up like a laptop screen (such keyboards exist already for Palm Pilots, but who would want to type that much into a Palm Pilot?).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree , intuitively , that tablets , as they 've existed so far , are awkward if you want to use them for a long time .
But I think laptops have similar problems , and that has n't stopped them from overtaking desktops ( to such an extent that even though it would be possible to fold some laptop innovations to desktop computers nobody bothers because margins are so slim ) .
Ergonomically if you 're sitting down your input controls should be close to your lap , and the display a couple feet away and at eye level .
Laptops ca n't achieve that , and tablets are even farther from it.If this tablet is big enough that you ca n't comfortably hold it up to your face like a book ( or cell phone , or Kindle ) it is 100 \ % Full Of Fail , guaranteed .
Any time you did n't have a desk right in front of you you 'd have to crane your neck to use it .
I do think a device the size and weight of a Kindle , netbook-level processing power , a general-purpose OS , and an iPhone-like screen , could work .
For people like me that would be interested in doing lots of typing , the company could make a USB keyboard/trackball combo that you can mount the tablet onto , holding it up like a laptop screen ( such keyboards exist already for Palm Pilots , but who would want to type that much into a Palm Pilot ?
) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree, intuitively, that tablets, as they've existed so far, are awkward if you want to use them for a long time.
But I think laptops have similar problems, and that hasn't stopped them from overtaking desktops (to such an extent that even though it would be possible to fold some laptop innovations to desktop computers nobody bothers because margins are so slim).
Ergonomically if you're sitting down your input controls should be close to your lap, and the display a couple feet away and at eye level.
Laptops can't achieve that, and tablets are even farther from it.If this tablet is big enough that you can't comfortably hold it up to your face like a book (or cell phone, or Kindle) it is 100\% Full Of Fail, guaranteed.
Any time you didn't have a desk right in front of you you'd have to crane your neck to use it.
I do think a device the size and weight of a Kindle, netbook-level processing power, a general-purpose OS, and an iPhone-like screen, could work.
For people like me that would be interested in doing lots of typing, the company could make a USB keyboard/trackball combo that you can mount the tablet onto, holding it up like a laptop screen (such keyboards exist already for Palm Pilots, but who would want to type that much into a Palm Pilot?
).</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>betterunixthanunix</author>
	<datestamp>1262969520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am in a CS graduate program, and <b>nobody</b> in our department is talking about this -- not even the dozen or so Apple fanboys.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am in a CS graduate program , and nobody in our department is talking about this -- not even the dozen or so Apple fanboys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am in a CS graduate program, and nobody in our department is talking about this -- not even the dozen or so Apple fanboys.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>bhodikhan</author>
	<datestamp>1262968380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>One Word. Cintiq from Wacom. I used the 21" one for over a year. Got tired of my hand covering up the damn screen. I'll stick to a Wacom tablet and a screen. I want to see what I'm working on and not have to deal with digitizer accuracy issues and my hand and wrist covering up my work. I doubt anyone will get much precision using a finger. A Wacom is at least 2400 point per inch. A tablet using a finger cannot have that precision.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One Word .
Cintiq from Wacom .
I used the 21 " one for over a year .
Got tired of my hand covering up the damn screen .
I 'll stick to a Wacom tablet and a screen .
I want to see what I 'm working on and not have to deal with digitizer accuracy issues and my hand and wrist covering up my work .
I doubt anyone will get much precision using a finger .
A Wacom is at least 2400 point per inch .
A tablet using a finger can not have that precision .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One Word.
Cintiq from Wacom.
I used the 21" one for over a year.
Got tired of my hand covering up the damn screen.
I'll stick to a Wacom tablet and a screen.
I want to see what I'm working on and not have to deal with digitizer accuracy issues and my hand and wrist covering up my work.
I doubt anyone will get much precision using a finger.
A Wacom is at least 2400 point per inch.
A tablet using a finger cannot have that precision.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694748</id>
	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>ClaraBow</author>
	<datestamp>1262967600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Interesting idea, but the screen will probably be too small for any serious work! It could be very useful for last minute changes and touch ups when away from office or with a client who requests simple changes-- this could indeed be a very handy tool!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Interesting idea , but the screen will probably be too small for any serious work !
It could be very useful for last minute changes and touch ups when away from office or with a client who requests simple changes-- this could indeed be a very handy tool !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interesting idea, but the screen will probably be too small for any serious work!
It could be very useful for last minute changes and touch ups when away from office or with a client who requests simple changes-- this could indeed be a very handy tool!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30699056</id>
	<title>Everyone ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262941200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nope. Sorry. I just want to see apple &amp; its fanboys rot in hell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nope .
Sorry. I just want to see apple &amp; its fanboys rot in hell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nope.
Sorry. I just want to see apple &amp; its fanboys rot in hell.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695048</id>
	<title>Re:Oh, my poor rotator cuffs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262968560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suppose that'd be a benefit of having a hand-held device like a tablet? Or one you could place on your lap, or on your desk....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suppose that 'd be a benefit of having a hand-held device like a tablet ?
Or one you could place on your lap , or on your desk... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suppose that'd be a benefit of having a hand-held device like a tablet?
Or one you could place on your lap, or on your desk....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695172</id>
	<title>Re:If it can't fit in my pocket...</title>
	<author>King\_TJ</author>
	<datestamp>1262969100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't really agree.  Devices small enough to fit in one's pocket have serious disadvantages.  Even *if* you designed one with new technologies allowing the display to unroll like a scroll, you'd have limited battery life issues, and probably lack a good method of input too.  (They're just starting to release touch-screen displays with tactile feedback, but doubt we have any way to do tactile feedback with "electronic paper" type displays that could roll up and unroll, yet.)</p><p>I carry around, and really like my iPhone, because so far - it lets me do more with a pocket-sized device than any other single device I used to take with me.  But I'd still be interested in a well thought-out tablet computer.  It wouldn't replace the iPhone, but might serve a different purpose.</p><p>(Imagine, for example, a tablet that had a fold-out stand in back so it could sit upright on a desk like a photo frame?  It could serve as a secondary monitor to a desktop PC that way, via USB connection and the right software drivers.  Then, when you wanted to take it with you, just disconnect it and go.  It could serve as a really nice universal remote control around the house, via bluetooth and/or wi-fi, and allow comfortable web-surfing from the couch or what-not.  Maybe even put magnets on the back so it could be stuck to the fridge in the kitchen, if someone wanted to look up recipes and use them from it, or watch video on it while cooking?  Depending on how much typing I expected to do, I could also use it in place of a notebook computer.  It could easily slip into one of those "sleeve" type notebook cases, keeping it less bulky than a traditional laptop bag - and could be used, standing-up, as well as sitting down, with equal comfort.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't really agree .
Devices small enough to fit in one 's pocket have serious disadvantages .
Even * if * you designed one with new technologies allowing the display to unroll like a scroll , you 'd have limited battery life issues , and probably lack a good method of input too .
( They 're just starting to release touch-screen displays with tactile feedback , but doubt we have any way to do tactile feedback with " electronic paper " type displays that could roll up and unroll , yet .
) I carry around , and really like my iPhone , because so far - it lets me do more with a pocket-sized device than any other single device I used to take with me .
But I 'd still be interested in a well thought-out tablet computer .
It would n't replace the iPhone , but might serve a different purpose .
( Imagine , for example , a tablet that had a fold-out stand in back so it could sit upright on a desk like a photo frame ?
It could serve as a secondary monitor to a desktop PC that way , via USB connection and the right software drivers .
Then , when you wanted to take it with you , just disconnect it and go .
It could serve as a really nice universal remote control around the house , via bluetooth and/or wi-fi , and allow comfortable web-surfing from the couch or what-not .
Maybe even put magnets on the back so it could be stuck to the fridge in the kitchen , if someone wanted to look up recipes and use them from it , or watch video on it while cooking ?
Depending on how much typing I expected to do , I could also use it in place of a notebook computer .
It could easily slip into one of those " sleeve " type notebook cases , keeping it less bulky than a traditional laptop bag - and could be used , standing-up , as well as sitting down , with equal comfort .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't really agree.
Devices small enough to fit in one's pocket have serious disadvantages.
Even *if* you designed one with new technologies allowing the display to unroll like a scroll, you'd have limited battery life issues, and probably lack a good method of input too.
(They're just starting to release touch-screen displays with tactile feedback, but doubt we have any way to do tactile feedback with "electronic paper" type displays that could roll up and unroll, yet.
)I carry around, and really like my iPhone, because so far - it lets me do more with a pocket-sized device than any other single device I used to take with me.
But I'd still be interested in a well thought-out tablet computer.
It wouldn't replace the iPhone, but might serve a different purpose.
(Imagine, for example, a tablet that had a fold-out stand in back so it could sit upright on a desk like a photo frame?
It could serve as a secondary monitor to a desktop PC that way, via USB connection and the right software drivers.
Then, when you wanted to take it with you, just disconnect it and go.
It could serve as a really nice universal remote control around the house, via bluetooth and/or wi-fi, and allow comfortable web-surfing from the couch or what-not.
Maybe even put magnets on the back so it could be stuck to the fridge in the kitchen, if someone wanted to look up recipes and use them from it, or watch video on it while cooking?
Depending on how much typing I expected to do, I could also use it in place of a notebook computer.
It could easily slip into one of those "sleeve" type notebook cases, keeping it less bulky than a traditional laptop bag - and could be used, standing-up, as well as sitting down, with equal comfort.
)</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:ooooh!</title>
	<author>painandgreed</author>
	<datestamp>1262977500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>How long will it take before Dell, HP and the like copy this tablet innovation?</i> </p><p> Last Wednesday. HP revealed their new slate computer and had Ballmer present it for the keynote at CES in Las Vegas. MS and HP have presented tablets every year it seems like, but this is the first time they have really presented a slate computer as the showcase. I think they miss the point though. Their OS is basically Win7 running with a touch screen. I don't think it will fly any higher than previous tablets which is to say a few niche corporate jobs and a few interested users. </p><p>I think Apple will do something besides just present a slate computer running OS X and say here you go. My guess is for basically a larger iPod touch and probably running a similar OS and UI. Rather than a full computer replacement, I think it will be more of a video and book reader. Besides the App store, I bet there are neat new killer apps, probably with Netflix and Google doing easy video and book downloads with an interface built for the UI. With all the talk of being an electronic magazine reader instead of books (probably due to the lack of epaper), I also wouldn't be surprised if they also launched some sort of electronic magazine subscription and presentation service. That's something I've been waiting for, being able to get my magazine subscriptions in a nice and readable electronic form which is a problem with hardware as much as software. It won't replace your phone, or your laptop, but it might make a good substitution for your laptop on trips as something to take, broswe the web, read, play games, and download photos to. If it does allow you to install regular OS X apps too such as MS Office or Aperture, it would really fill in that roll.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How long will it take before Dell , HP and the like copy this tablet innovation ?
Last Wednesday .
HP revealed their new slate computer and had Ballmer present it for the keynote at CES in Las Vegas .
MS and HP have presented tablets every year it seems like , but this is the first time they have really presented a slate computer as the showcase .
I think they miss the point though .
Their OS is basically Win7 running with a touch screen .
I do n't think it will fly any higher than previous tablets which is to say a few niche corporate jobs and a few interested users .
I think Apple will do something besides just present a slate computer running OS X and say here you go .
My guess is for basically a larger iPod touch and probably running a similar OS and UI .
Rather than a full computer replacement , I think it will be more of a video and book reader .
Besides the App store , I bet there are neat new killer apps , probably with Netflix and Google doing easy video and book downloads with an interface built for the UI .
With all the talk of being an electronic magazine reader instead of books ( probably due to the lack of epaper ) , I also would n't be surprised if they also launched some sort of electronic magazine subscription and presentation service .
That 's something I 've been waiting for , being able to get my magazine subscriptions in a nice and readable electronic form which is a problem with hardware as much as software .
It wo n't replace your phone , or your laptop , but it might make a good substitution for your laptop on trips as something to take , broswe the web , read , play games , and download photos to .
If it does allow you to install regular OS X apps too such as MS Office or Aperture , it would really fill in that roll .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> How long will it take before Dell, HP and the like copy this tablet innovation?
Last Wednesday.
HP revealed their new slate computer and had Ballmer present it for the keynote at CES in Las Vegas.
MS and HP have presented tablets every year it seems like, but this is the first time they have really presented a slate computer as the showcase.
I think they miss the point though.
Their OS is basically Win7 running with a touch screen.
I don't think it will fly any higher than previous tablets which is to say a few niche corporate jobs and a few interested users.
I think Apple will do something besides just present a slate computer running OS X and say here you go.
My guess is for basically a larger iPod touch and probably running a similar OS and UI.
Rather than a full computer replacement, I think it will be more of a video and book reader.
Besides the App store, I bet there are neat new killer apps, probably with Netflix and Google doing easy video and book downloads with an interface built for the UI.
With all the talk of being an electronic magazine reader instead of books (probably due to the lack of epaper), I also wouldn't be surprised if they also launched some sort of electronic magazine subscription and presentation service.
That's something I've been waiting for, being able to get my magazine subscriptions in a nice and readable electronic form which is a problem with hardware as much as software.
It won't replace your phone, or your laptop, but it might make a good substitution for your laptop on trips as something to take, broswe the web, read, play games, and download photos to.
If it does allow you to install regular OS X apps too such as MS Office or Aperture, it would really fill in that roll.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695364</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone causing low hopes</title>
	<author>Rikiji7</author>
	<datestamp>1262969820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Agree, a tablet should be able to run a full OS, i'm not interested in a 10" gadget that doesn't support multitasking.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Agree , a tablet should be able to run a full OS , i 'm not interested in a 10 " gadget that does n't support multitasking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agree, a tablet should be able to run a full OS, i'm not interested in a 10" gadget that doesn't support multitasking.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696844</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>Arthur Grumbine</author>
	<datestamp>1262975280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But it has happened often enough.</p></div><p>By often enough do you mean three times over 10 years? iPod (2001), iTunes (2003), and iPhone (2007). The MacBook Air certainly had some effect/appeal, but I wouldn't say that it drove all that much innovation, or expanded that niche into the mainstream. Three (and a half, maybe) products over the last 10 years, out of all their products (Nano, Shuffle, iPod Touch, Mac Mini, AppleTV, Power Mac/Mac Pro, iBook/MacBook, PowerBook/MacBook Pro, iMac, OS X, Xserve, iLife, iWork).<br> <br>
Those three products surely have changed electronics/technology/entertainment consumption in a big way, but I personally don't feel it's nearly "often enough" to establish them as a <i>significantly</i> better innovator than Sony, Asus, Nokia, IBM/Lenovo, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, eBay/Paypal or many others who have produced a couple really revolutionary/industry-changing products/services over the last 20 years.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But it has happened often enough.By often enough do you mean three times over 10 years ?
iPod ( 2001 ) , iTunes ( 2003 ) , and iPhone ( 2007 ) .
The MacBook Air certainly had some effect/appeal , but I would n't say that it drove all that much innovation , or expanded that niche into the mainstream .
Three ( and a half , maybe ) products over the last 10 years , out of all their products ( Nano , Shuffle , iPod Touch , Mac Mini , AppleTV , Power Mac/Mac Pro , iBook/MacBook , PowerBook/MacBook Pro , iMac , OS X , Xserve , iLife , iWork ) .
Those three products surely have changed electronics/technology/entertainment consumption in a big way , but I personally do n't feel it 's nearly " often enough " to establish them as a significantly better innovator than Sony , Asus , Nokia , IBM/Lenovo , Microsoft , Google , Amazon , eBay/Paypal or many others who have produced a couple really revolutionary/industry-changing products/services over the last 20 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But it has happened often enough.By often enough do you mean three times over 10 years?
iPod (2001), iTunes (2003), and iPhone (2007).
The MacBook Air certainly had some effect/appeal, but I wouldn't say that it drove all that much innovation, or expanded that niche into the mainstream.
Three (and a half, maybe) products over the last 10 years, out of all their products (Nano, Shuffle, iPod Touch, Mac Mini, AppleTV, Power Mac/Mac Pro, iBook/MacBook, PowerBook/MacBook Pro, iMac, OS X, Xserve, iLife, iWork).
Those three products surely have changed electronics/technology/entertainment consumption in a big way, but I personally don't feel it's nearly "often enough" to establish them as a significantly better innovator than Sony, Asus, Nokia, IBM/Lenovo, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, eBay/Paypal or many others who have produced a couple really revolutionary/industry-changing products/services over the last 20 years.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697132</id>
	<title>Re:LOL WUT?</title>
	<author>divisionbyzero</author>
	<datestamp>1262976480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I think it's safe to say the Apple Fanboys have high hopes, but Apple has a number of things going against them:</p><p>1) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it's working across a large set of diverse devices.  ChromeOS will only make Apple's problem worse<br>2) If the expected price of $1000 is to be believed, it'll be a real turn off for anyone looking for a low cost MID.  You can buy two (or three) netbooks for that price.<br>3) Let's be clear, if it's not e-ink or similar, this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReader</p></div><p>1) Android has a long way to go and Apple isn't standing still.  It's like the difference between most linux desktops and Mac OS X.  I use both daily as well as Windows and I far and away prefer Mac OS X.<br>2) $1000 may be unlocked or wholesale but do you believe Apple doesn't understand pricing?  How do you think they maintain fat margins?  Everyone complains about how expensive Apple products are, but they seem to be selling just fine, TYVM.<br>3) E-ink is a non-starter for a Tablet from Apple.  It has to be color and do touch.  E-ink sucks at both.  I expect either a high density LCD or AMOLED display although I'm not sure how they will square that with price issue above.</p><p>So, I'd say that if Apple were filled with idiots, you might have some valid points, but I think they'll have the obvious covered.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's safe to say the Apple Fanboys have high hopes , but Apple has a number of things going against them : 1 ) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it 's working across a large set of diverse devices .
ChromeOS will only make Apple 's problem worse2 ) If the expected price of $ 1000 is to be believed , it 'll be a real turn off for anyone looking for a low cost MID .
You can buy two ( or three ) netbooks for that price.3 ) Let 's be clear , if it 's not e-ink or similar , this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReader1 ) Android has a long way to go and Apple is n't standing still .
It 's like the difference between most linux desktops and Mac OS X. I use both daily as well as Windows and I far and away prefer Mac OS X.2 ) $ 1000 may be unlocked or wholesale but do you believe Apple does n't understand pricing ?
How do you think they maintain fat margins ?
Everyone complains about how expensive Apple products are , but they seem to be selling just fine , TYVM.3 ) E-ink is a non-starter for a Tablet from Apple .
It has to be color and do touch .
E-ink sucks at both .
I expect either a high density LCD or AMOLED display although I 'm not sure how they will square that with price issue above.So , I 'd say that if Apple were filled with idiots , you might have some valid points , but I think they 'll have the obvious covered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's safe to say the Apple Fanboys have high hopes, but Apple has a number of things going against them:1) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it's working across a large set of diverse devices.
ChromeOS will only make Apple's problem worse2) If the expected price of $1000 is to be believed, it'll be a real turn off for anyone looking for a low cost MID.
You can buy two (or three) netbooks for that price.3) Let's be clear, if it's not e-ink or similar, this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReader1) Android has a long way to go and Apple isn't standing still.
It's like the difference between most linux desktops and Mac OS X.  I use both daily as well as Windows and I far and away prefer Mac OS X.2) $1000 may be unlocked or wholesale but do you believe Apple doesn't understand pricing?
How do you think they maintain fat margins?
Everyone complains about how expensive Apple products are, but they seem to be selling just fine, TYVM.3) E-ink is a non-starter for a Tablet from Apple.
It has to be color and do touch.
E-ink sucks at both.
I expect either a high density LCD or AMOLED display although I'm not sure how they will square that with price issue above.So, I'd say that if Apple were filled with idiots, you might have some valid points, but I think they'll have the obvious covered.
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	<title>eInk + LCD iSlate?</title>
	<author>mbourgon</author>
	<datestamp>1262969640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pixel QI (combo LCD &amp; eInk screen) is supposedly shipping screens, but nobody's announced that they're using them.  A brand new ultra-cool technology that seems almost custom made for the Jesus Pad.  It also makes sense as a way to one-up everyone else.  Why buy a $300 Kindle or Nook when for $450 you can buy an iSlate which has color AND month-long battery life if you so desire it.</p><p>Of course, I'm personally still hoping it'll have 2 cameras and videoconference capabilities.  I'm using a netbook for something like that now, and it needs some work.  Done right, it could be a  killer app.  (But then again, there's a reason we don't have videophones now...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pixel QI ( combo LCD &amp; eInk screen ) is supposedly shipping screens , but nobody 's announced that they 're using them .
A brand new ultra-cool technology that seems almost custom made for the Jesus Pad .
It also makes sense as a way to one-up everyone else .
Why buy a $ 300 Kindle or Nook when for $ 450 you can buy an iSlate which has color AND month-long battery life if you so desire it.Of course , I 'm personally still hoping it 'll have 2 cameras and videoconference capabilities .
I 'm using a netbook for something like that now , and it needs some work .
Done right , it could be a killer app .
( But then again , there 's a reason we do n't have videophones now... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pixel QI (combo LCD &amp; eInk screen) is supposedly shipping screens, but nobody's announced that they're using them.
A brand new ultra-cool technology that seems almost custom made for the Jesus Pad.
It also makes sense as a way to one-up everyone else.
Why buy a $300 Kindle or Nook when for $450 you can buy an iSlate which has color AND month-long battery life if you so desire it.Of course, I'm personally still hoping it'll have 2 cameras and videoconference capabilities.
I'm using a netbook for something like that now, and it needs some work.
Done right, it could be a  killer app.
(But then again, there's a reason we don't have videophones now...)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694740</id>
	<title>LOL WUT?</title>
	<author>Enry</author>
	<datestamp>1262967600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it's safe to say the Apple Fanboys have high hopes, but Apple has a number of things going against them:</p><p>1) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it's working across a large set of diverse devices.  ChromeOS will only make Apple's problem worse<br>2) If the expected price of $1000 is to be believed, it'll be a real turn off for anyone looking for a low cost MID.  You can buy two (or three) netbooks for that price.<br>3) Let's be clear, if it's not e-ink or similar, this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReader</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's safe to say the Apple Fanboys have high hopes , but Apple has a number of things going against them : 1 ) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it 's working across a large set of diverse devices .
ChromeOS will only make Apple 's problem worse2 ) If the expected price of $ 1000 is to be believed , it 'll be a real turn off for anyone looking for a low cost MID .
You can buy two ( or three ) netbooks for that price.3 ) Let 's be clear , if it 's not e-ink or similar , this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReader</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's safe to say the Apple Fanboys have high hopes, but Apple has a number of things going against them:1) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it's working across a large set of diverse devices.
ChromeOS will only make Apple's problem worse2) If the expected price of $1000 is to be believed, it'll be a real turn off for anyone looking for a low cost MID.
You can buy two (or three) netbooks for that price.3) Let's be clear, if it's not e-ink or similar, this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReader</sentencetext>
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	<title>More reasons...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262970000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) It's Apple, a lot of asskissers and followers will buy it in hopes that they can use it in ways that Apple will prove of.<br>2) The tablet will be plastic/aluminum and shiny.<br>3) It will cost 4x more than other tablets.</p><p>I am glad I am a PC...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) It 's Apple , a lot of asskissers and followers will buy it in hopes that they can use it in ways that Apple will prove of.2 ) The tablet will be plastic/aluminum and shiny.3 ) It will cost 4x more than other tablets.I am glad I am a PC.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) It's Apple, a lot of asskissers and followers will buy it in hopes that they can use it in ways that Apple will prove of.2) The tablet will be plastic/aluminum and shiny.3) It will cost 4x more than other tablets.I am glad I am a PC...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696592</id>
	<title>Deafing roar</title>
	<author>mcbiondi</author>
	<datestamp>1262974260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Um, I think we're just witnessing Apple's marketing campaign, and boy they must be spending a bundle on it.  They have to cut through the clutter somehow....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Um , I think we 're just witnessing Apple 's marketing campaign , and boy they must be spending a bundle on it .
They have to cut through the clutter somehow... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um, I think we're just witnessing Apple's marketing campaign, and boy they must be spending a bundle on it.
They have to cut through the clutter somehow....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30698860</id>
	<title>Re:Rumours</title>
	<author>chrisxcr1</author>
	<datestamp>1262983740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, it's true.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , it 's true .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, it's true.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695120</id>
	<title>Paper replacer</title>
	<author>jomama717</author>
	<datestamp>1262968920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am completely on board with this concept because if it is anything like what I imagine I could use it to replace the reams of worthless legal pads and loose note papers I have strewn all over my desk.  I need to take notes on something the size of a pad of paper, preferably be able to use a pen/stylus to freehand, and now with the ability to easily catalog, date, and label the notes this is a dream come true.
<br> <br>
As a bonus I imagine you could pop up a little virtual keyboard on it and use it to work on little side projects on a train/plane/etc.  I would also not be completely honest if I didn't acknowledge the star trek TNG angle and the warm fuzzy feeling it gives me...life imitates art.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am completely on board with this concept because if it is anything like what I imagine I could use it to replace the reams of worthless legal pads and loose note papers I have strewn all over my desk .
I need to take notes on something the size of a pad of paper , preferably be able to use a pen/stylus to freehand , and now with the ability to easily catalog , date , and label the notes this is a dream come true .
As a bonus I imagine you could pop up a little virtual keyboard on it and use it to work on little side projects on a train/plane/etc .
I would also not be completely honest if I did n't acknowledge the star trek TNG angle and the warm fuzzy feeling it gives me...life imitates art .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am completely on board with this concept because if it is anything like what I imagine I could use it to replace the reams of worthless legal pads and loose note papers I have strewn all over my desk.
I need to take notes on something the size of a pad of paper, preferably be able to use a pen/stylus to freehand, and now with the ability to easily catalog, date, and label the notes this is a dream come true.
As a bonus I imagine you could pop up a little virtual keyboard on it and use it to work on little side projects on a train/plane/etc.
I would also not be completely honest if I didn't acknowledge the star trek TNG angle and the warm fuzzy feeling it gives me...life imitates art.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696970</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone causing low hopes</title>
	<author>Dog-Cow</author>
	<datestamp>1262975820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are an idiot and a moron.  You are stupid beyond the simple understanding of the term.  You simply demonstrate a level never before seen.</p><p>Apple has not turned computing back at all, much less 30 years.  The idea doesn't even make sense.  The iPhone represents the latest techniques in hardware manufacture.  The software is written using a complete object-oriented framework that simplifies the use of many technologies that didn't even exist 30 years ago.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are an idiot and a moron .
You are stupid beyond the simple understanding of the term .
You simply demonstrate a level never before seen.Apple has not turned computing back at all , much less 30 years .
The idea does n't even make sense .
The iPhone represents the latest techniques in hardware manufacture .
The software is written using a complete object-oriented framework that simplifies the use of many technologies that did n't even exist 30 years ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are an idiot and a moron.
You are stupid beyond the simple understanding of the term.
You simply demonstrate a level never before seen.Apple has not turned computing back at all, much less 30 years.
The idea doesn't even make sense.
The iPhone represents the latest techniques in hardware manufacture.
The software is written using a complete object-oriented framework that simplifies the use of many technologies that didn't even exist 30 years ago.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696362</id>
	<title>Re:Even the Competitors Have High Hopes</title>
	<author>Skuld-Chan</author>
	<datestamp>1262973360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I actually think it benefits both Microsoft and Apple for them to release their products in tandem. It adds to the rivalry and people love that. Not to mention, they're certainly going to be compatible with only their respective products so a long time Mac user isn't going to be stolen nor will a longtime Windows user go over to the iSlate.</p></div></blockquote><p>How long have tablet PC's been around (Windows for Pen Computing came out in 92)? Unless the macpad is really revolutionary (knowing Apple they could pull something cool off), I really don't see anything really coming of this that hasn't already been done by Microsoft and their OEM's.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually think it benefits both Microsoft and Apple for them to release their products in tandem .
It adds to the rivalry and people love that .
Not to mention , they 're certainly going to be compatible with only their respective products so a long time Mac user is n't going to be stolen nor will a longtime Windows user go over to the iSlate.How long have tablet PC 's been around ( Windows for Pen Computing came out in 92 ) ?
Unless the macpad is really revolutionary ( knowing Apple they could pull something cool off ) , I really do n't see anything really coming of this that has n't already been done by Microsoft and their OEM 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually think it benefits both Microsoft and Apple for them to release their products in tandem.
It adds to the rivalry and people love that.
Not to mention, they're certainly going to be compatible with only their respective products so a long time Mac user isn't going to be stolen nor will a longtime Windows user go over to the iSlate.How long have tablet PC's been around (Windows for Pen Computing came out in 92)?
Unless the macpad is really revolutionary (knowing Apple they could pull something cool off), I really don't see anything really coming of this that hasn't already been done by Microsoft and their OEM's.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30702838</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing Latent About It</title>
	<author>ignavus</author>
	<datestamp>1262958720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Since it's smaller than a laptop, but bigger than a smartphone, maybe we need to give it a new name.</p></div><p>Lapphone?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since it 's smaller than a laptop , but bigger than a smartphone , maybe we need to give it a new name.Lapphone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since it's smaller than a laptop, but bigger than a smartphone, maybe we need to give it a new name.Lapphone?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695606</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262970600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Often enough? Has it happened yet?<br>I'll concede that the iPod has seen an, in my opinion, unhealthy proliferation to the point where "MP3 player" was/is more or less synonymous with iPod. Apart from that I don't see anything from Apple being a real trend setter or in the fron of innovation.<br>MacOSX was, and still is I guess, a BSD derivative with a souped up UI that, while having a couple of new-ish features, only introduced eyecandy. Has no more started a revolution in OSes/UIs than Compiz, Vista, KDE or any other of a bunch of "new" window managers.<br>The Intel-based Macs was, and still is, over priced (with regards to performance), less customizable and upgradable PCs in an off white wrapper. Still highly limited in what is upgradable and how, in terms of performance increase, I as a consumer am able to upgrade before I must buy a whole new rig. (I will gladly concede that I may very well be off here. I haven't looked to Apple for computers in years.)<br>The iPod was, when it was "new", a generic MP3 player with an off white plastic cover and, again in my opinion, a horrible way of navigating. This has not changed, period.<br>The iPhone, apart from the UI and multi-touch (for which Apple should never have been awarded a patent), was a less usable smartphone. Usable in the sense that it lacked many features taken for granted when buying a smartphone from most of the competitors. This has atleast in part been rectified. One must also always remember that Apple had 0.3\% of the cell phone market share in 2008 (no, I can't be bothered to find a more recent number) http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=6191. It is quite a bit behind leaders Nokia (38.6\%) and Samsung (16.2\%). While I may be of the less informed, I have not seen any broad strokes taken from the iPhone and applied to any other phone.</p><p>I would continue, but I don't want to stay at work any longer =)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Often enough ?
Has it happened yet ? I 'll concede that the iPod has seen an , in my opinion , unhealthy proliferation to the point where " MP3 player " was/is more or less synonymous with iPod .
Apart from that I do n't see anything from Apple being a real trend setter or in the fron of innovation.MacOSX was , and still is I guess , a BSD derivative with a souped up UI that , while having a couple of new-ish features , only introduced eyecandy .
Has no more started a revolution in OSes/UIs than Compiz , Vista , KDE or any other of a bunch of " new " window managers.The Intel-based Macs was , and still is , over priced ( with regards to performance ) , less customizable and upgradable PCs in an off white wrapper .
Still highly limited in what is upgradable and how , in terms of performance increase , I as a consumer am able to upgrade before I must buy a whole new rig .
( I will gladly concede that I may very well be off here .
I have n't looked to Apple for computers in years .
) The iPod was , when it was " new " , a generic MP3 player with an off white plastic cover and , again in my opinion , a horrible way of navigating .
This has not changed , period.The iPhone , apart from the UI and multi-touch ( for which Apple should never have been awarded a patent ) , was a less usable smartphone .
Usable in the sense that it lacked many features taken for granted when buying a smartphone from most of the competitors .
This has atleast in part been rectified .
One must also always remember that Apple had 0.3 \ % of the cell phone market share in 2008 ( no , I ca n't be bothered to find a more recent number ) http : //www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp ? Id = 6191 .
It is quite a bit behind leaders Nokia ( 38.6 \ % ) and Samsung ( 16.2 \ % ) .
While I may be of the less informed , I have not seen any broad strokes taken from the iPhone and applied to any other phone.I would continue , but I do n't want to stay at work any longer = )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Often enough?
Has it happened yet?I'll concede that the iPod has seen an, in my opinion, unhealthy proliferation to the point where "MP3 player" was/is more or less synonymous with iPod.
Apart from that I don't see anything from Apple being a real trend setter or in the fron of innovation.MacOSX was, and still is I guess, a BSD derivative with a souped up UI that, while having a couple of new-ish features, only introduced eyecandy.
Has no more started a revolution in OSes/UIs than Compiz, Vista, KDE or any other of a bunch of "new" window managers.The Intel-based Macs was, and still is, over priced (with regards to performance), less customizable and upgradable PCs in an off white wrapper.
Still highly limited in what is upgradable and how, in terms of performance increase, I as a consumer am able to upgrade before I must buy a whole new rig.
(I will gladly concede that I may very well be off here.
I haven't looked to Apple for computers in years.
)The iPod was, when it was "new", a generic MP3 player with an off white plastic cover and, again in my opinion, a horrible way of navigating.
This has not changed, period.The iPhone, apart from the UI and multi-touch (for which Apple should never have been awarded a patent), was a less usable smartphone.
Usable in the sense that it lacked many features taken for granted when buying a smartphone from most of the competitors.
This has atleast in part been rectified.
One must also always remember that Apple had 0.3\% of the cell phone market share in 2008 (no, I can't be bothered to find a more recent number) http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=6191.
It is quite a bit behind leaders Nokia (38.6\%) and Samsung (16.2\%).
While I may be of the less informed, I have not seen any broad strokes taken from the iPhone and applied to any other phone.I would continue, but I don't want to stay at work any longer =)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695144</id>
	<title>Article is myopic, overlooking past examples</title>
	<author>WillAdams</author>
	<datestamp>1262969040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No mention of Go Corporation and PenPoint (Jerry Kaplan's \_StartUp\_ should be required reading for everyone who writes anything about pen computing).  The NCR-3125 came out in 1991, running one's choice of Windows for Pen Computing or PenPoint.</p><p>Fujitsu in particular has been doing pen computers running various versions of Windows for a long while, w/ models of the Fujitsu Stylistic ranging from the 500 (1993 or so) to the contemporary ST6012.</p><p>William<br>(whose NCR-3125 was donated to the Smithsonian by the guy he sold it to)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No mention of Go Corporation and PenPoint ( Jerry Kaplan 's \ _StartUp \ _ should be required reading for everyone who writes anything about pen computing ) .
The NCR-3125 came out in 1991 , running one 's choice of Windows for Pen Computing or PenPoint.Fujitsu in particular has been doing pen computers running various versions of Windows for a long while , w/ models of the Fujitsu Stylistic ranging from the 500 ( 1993 or so ) to the contemporary ST6012.William ( whose NCR-3125 was donated to the Smithsonian by the guy he sold it to )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No mention of Go Corporation and PenPoint (Jerry Kaplan's \_StartUp\_ should be required reading for everyone who writes anything about pen computing).
The NCR-3125 came out in 1991, running one's choice of Windows for Pen Computing or PenPoint.Fujitsu in particular has been doing pen computers running various versions of Windows for a long while, w/ models of the Fujitsu Stylistic ranging from the 500 (1993 or so) to the contemporary ST6012.William(whose NCR-3125 was donated to the Smithsonian by the guy he sold it to)</sentencetext>
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	<title>1 word.</title>
	<author>SharpFang</author>
	<datestamp>1262967360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Photoshop.</p><p>Mac is still, and long will be the favorite computer of most graphicians/artists.</p><p>Tablet+screen has some serious disadvantages. You draw in one place, image appears elsewhere.<br>With a good touchscreen capable of providing precision comparable to decent Wacoms, this can become a dream tool for an artist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Photoshop.Mac is still , and long will be the favorite computer of most graphicians/artists.Tablet + screen has some serious disadvantages .
You draw in one place , image appears elsewhere.With a good touchscreen capable of providing precision comparable to decent Wacoms , this can become a dream tool for an artist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Photoshop.Mac is still, and long will be the favorite computer of most graphicians/artists.Tablet+screen has some serious disadvantages.
You draw in one place, image appears elsewhere.With a good touchscreen capable of providing precision comparable to decent Wacoms, this can become a dream tool for an artist.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695932</id>
	<title>Re:Kay.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262971680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you've been using a convertible tablet for that long, you must have noticed that the market is not there. The best tablets are business-oriented and cost 2x as much as a consumer device with the same capabilities should. HP has targeted the consumer market, but with the terrible AMD Turion mobile processor and sub-par construction. There just isn't a single device which has proven that tablet computing is viable compared to the "traditional" keyboard and trackpad interface on normal laptops.</p><p>Even if you don't ever end up with an Apple product, Apple releasing a tablet will *probably* be positive, because other manufacturers will see that success and take the tablet market seriously. Unfortunately we may be seeing the decline of the convertible (for those unfamiliar, a tablet with attached keyboard that basically operates like a normal laptop in the 10"-13" screen size, whose screen can swivel one or both directions and folds down to function as a slate device, or just a solid touchscreen panel), but if "You will be very surprised how you interact with the new tablet" as the rumors have said, and that means the interface has been worked out to the finest detail so that one shouldn't ever NEED a keyboard (or precise mouse control), this could start a revolution in computing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 've been using a convertible tablet for that long , you must have noticed that the market is not there .
The best tablets are business-oriented and cost 2x as much as a consumer device with the same capabilities should .
HP has targeted the consumer market , but with the terrible AMD Turion mobile processor and sub-par construction .
There just is n't a single device which has proven that tablet computing is viable compared to the " traditional " keyboard and trackpad interface on normal laptops.Even if you do n't ever end up with an Apple product , Apple releasing a tablet will * probably * be positive , because other manufacturers will see that success and take the tablet market seriously .
Unfortunately we may be seeing the decline of the convertible ( for those unfamiliar , a tablet with attached keyboard that basically operates like a normal laptop in the 10 " -13 " screen size , whose screen can swivel one or both directions and folds down to function as a slate device , or just a solid touchscreen panel ) , but if " You will be very surprised how you interact with the new tablet " as the rumors have said , and that means the interface has been worked out to the finest detail so that one should n't ever NEED a keyboard ( or precise mouse control ) , this could start a revolution in computing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you've been using a convertible tablet for that long, you must have noticed that the market is not there.
The best tablets are business-oriented and cost 2x as much as a consumer device with the same capabilities should.
HP has targeted the consumer market, but with the terrible AMD Turion mobile processor and sub-par construction.
There just isn't a single device which has proven that tablet computing is viable compared to the "traditional" keyboard and trackpad interface on normal laptops.Even if you don't ever end up with an Apple product, Apple releasing a tablet will *probably* be positive, because other manufacturers will see that success and take the tablet market seriously.
Unfortunately we may be seeing the decline of the convertible (for those unfamiliar, a tablet with attached keyboard that basically operates like a normal laptop in the 10"-13" screen size, whose screen can swivel one or both directions and folds down to function as a slate device, or just a solid touchscreen panel), but if "You will be very surprised how you interact with the new tablet" as the rumors have said, and that means the interface has been worked out to the finest detail so that one shouldn't ever NEED a keyboard (or precise mouse control), this could start a revolution in computing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696724</id>
	<title>Re:iSlate?</title>
	<author>painandgreed</author>
	<datestamp>1262974800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>If Apple hasn't even announced the damned thing yet, then why are we calling it the "iSlate"? Has slashdot really sunken so far as to making up product names for products that don't even exist? What is wrong with just saying "speculated Apple tablet"?</i> </p><p>Because Apple has trademarked the name "iSlate". They did this through a dummy company they set up. They also aquired "islate.com". They may not end up using it but they have shown interest enough to pay money to make it theirs. This is BTW the same thing they did when reserving the name "iPhone". If nothing else, to give a name in the rumors that such trademarks create.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Apple has n't even announced the damned thing yet , then why are we calling it the " iSlate " ?
Has slashdot really sunken so far as to making up product names for products that do n't even exist ?
What is wrong with just saying " speculated Apple tablet " ?
Because Apple has trademarked the name " iSlate " .
They did this through a dummy company they set up .
They also aquired " islate.com " .
They may not end up using it but they have shown interest enough to pay money to make it theirs .
This is BTW the same thing they did when reserving the name " iPhone " .
If nothing else , to give a name in the rumors that such trademarks create .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> If Apple hasn't even announced the damned thing yet, then why are we calling it the "iSlate"?
Has slashdot really sunken so far as to making up product names for products that don't even exist?
What is wrong with just saying "speculated Apple tablet"?
Because Apple has trademarked the name "iSlate".
They did this through a dummy company they set up.
They also aquired "islate.com".
They may not end up using it but they have shown interest enough to pay money to make it theirs.
This is BTW the same thing they did when reserving the name "iPhone".
If nothing else, to give a name in the rumors that such trademarks create.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Yes and no</title>
	<author>BobSutan</author>
	<datestamp>1263134940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I dont know anyone that wants a tablet PC. We've had them for years and they're not all that big of a deal. Now a netbook with a removable tablet screen I can can take with me and wirelessly surf the web, watch media, etc? Now that I'd like. Or just ditch netbook/laptop features and give me a lightweight, durable, 12" touchpad to use like an iPhone, apps and all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I dont know anyone that wants a tablet PC .
We 've had them for years and they 're not all that big of a deal .
Now a netbook with a removable tablet screen I can can take with me and wirelessly surf the web , watch media , etc ?
Now that I 'd like .
Or just ditch netbook/laptop features and give me a lightweight , durable , 12 " touchpad to use like an iPhone , apps and all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dont know anyone that wants a tablet PC.
We've had them for years and they're not all that big of a deal.
Now a netbook with a removable tablet screen I can can take with me and wirelessly surf the web, watch media, etc?
Now that I'd like.
Or just ditch netbook/laptop features and give me a lightweight, durable, 12" touchpad to use like an iPhone, apps and all.</sentencetext>
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	<title>a device for mom ?</title>
	<author>alobar72</author>
	<datestamp>1263228180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>I recently watched my mom (generation 60+) struggeling with a touchscreen notebook I once got her.
Having the expectations on Apples Tablet in mind, I wondered if Apple could address the generations of the 'older' ones with such a device:
Basically most 'older' ones ( ok. there are techies amongst them, but for the majority I think its true ) use PCs ( Notebook whatever ) for email, Webbrowsing, maybe a bit of Flickr / youtube and reading a couple of magazines.
When I listen to my mom, most of her problems have nothing to do with what she wants to do, but with the complexity of the interface and underlying technology.
If Apple could produce a tablet that makes the basic popular things you do with a computer easily accessable for extreme non-techies ( like my mom ) could this open up the whole "computer- and internet thing" to the generation of "the old ones" ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I recently watched my mom ( generation 60 + ) struggeling with a touchscreen notebook I once got her .
Having the expectations on Apples Tablet in mind , I wondered if Apple could address the generations of the 'older ' ones with such a device : Basically most 'older ' ones ( ok. there are techies amongst them , but for the majority I think its true ) use PCs ( Notebook whatever ) for email , Webbrowsing , maybe a bit of Flickr / youtube and reading a couple of magazines .
When I listen to my mom , most of her problems have nothing to do with what she wants to do , but with the complexity of the interface and underlying technology .
If Apple could produce a tablet that makes the basic popular things you do with a computer easily accessable for extreme non-techies ( like my mom ) could this open up the whole " computer- and internet thing " to the generation of " the old ones " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recently watched my mom (generation 60+) struggeling with a touchscreen notebook I once got her.
Having the expectations on Apples Tablet in mind, I wondered if Apple could address the generations of the 'older' ones with such a device:
Basically most 'older' ones ( ok. there are techies amongst them, but for the majority I think its true ) use PCs ( Notebook whatever ) for email, Webbrowsing, maybe a bit of Flickr / youtube and reading a couple of magazines.
When I listen to my mom, most of her problems have nothing to do with what she wants to do, but with the complexity of the interface and underlying technology.
If Apple could produce a tablet that makes the basic popular things you do with a computer easily accessable for extreme non-techies ( like my mom ) could this open up the whole "computer- and internet thing" to the generation of "the old ones" ?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:LOL WUT?</title>
	<author>itsdapead</author>
	<datestamp>1262970960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it's working across a large set of diverse devices.</p></div><p>Sorry, I have an iPod Touch and a HTC Hero - and while the latter isn't bad (and would seem amazing if you hadn't used an iProduct) it doesn't come anywhere near the iProduct for slickness and consistency. Principle mistake: if you're making a touch screen/accelerometer device, make it a <i>touch screen/accelerometer device</i> - don't randomly have some functions on the screen and others on physical back/menu/zoom buttons or trackballs. Make sure that all applications can be satisfactorily controlled by touch alone.
</p><p>Oh, and a multitouch interface should be sufficiently responsive to give the illusion that you are actually dragging objects with your finger. In Android, you make a gesture and then something happens. Fail.

</p><p>As for diversity - you think its a good thing? Android has only been out for a bit over a year and already there are at least 3 different versions of the UI and core apps (HTC original, HTC Hero, Motorola Droid, Nexus 1) - some phones have keyboards, others don't, buttons are in different places...) and some early adopters are stuck with old versions of the OS.

</p><p>Diversity might be good on full-size PCs, but ultra-portable devices need applications tailored to their display/input capabilities.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>  ChromeOS will only make Apple's problem worse</p></div><p>ChromeOS is interesting - and will get more interesting when we see some actual hardware products rather than just a virtual appliance running a browser. However, persuading people to "move to the cloud" could be a hard sell, and mobile internet coverage isn't yet up to a device that only works with the internet. Plus - unless Google do something evil - the online Google apps should work nicely with your slate.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>2) If the expected price of $1000 is to be believed, it'll be a real turn off for anyone looking for a low cost MID.</p></div><p>Well, the actual price is anybody's guess - if they're selling it with a mobile internet contract, that could be the deliberately inflated "sim free" price. Anyway, Apple are famous for successfully selling things at a premium.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>3) Let's be clear, if it's not e-ink or similar, this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReader</p></div><p>Current e-ink technology is <i>only</i> good for dedicated eBook readers. Its slow refresh rate makes it unsuitable for "general" computing and incapable of smooth animation or video.
</p><p>OTOH people can and do read eBooks on LCD/OLED screens (and its feasible that Apple might use a hybrid transmissive/reflective LCD which would be better). If Apple gets into this market, the key factor will be what any hypothetical "iBooks" store is like in terms of range, price and DRM-blight (the things currently putting thinking persons off eBooks).</p></div>
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<tokenext>1 ) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it 's working across a large set of diverse devices.Sorry , I have an iPod Touch and a HTC Hero - and while the latter is n't bad ( and would seem amazing if you had n't used an iProduct ) it does n't come anywhere near the iProduct for slickness and consistency .
Principle mistake : if you 're making a touch screen/accelerometer device , make it a touch screen/accelerometer device - do n't randomly have some functions on the screen and others on physical back/menu/zoom buttons or trackballs .
Make sure that all applications can be satisfactorily controlled by touch alone .
Oh , and a multitouch interface should be sufficiently responsive to give the illusion that you are actually dragging objects with your finger .
In Android , you make a gesture and then something happens .
Fail . As for diversity - you think its a good thing ?
Android has only been out for a bit over a year and already there are at least 3 different versions of the UI and core apps ( HTC original , HTC Hero , Motorola Droid , Nexus 1 ) - some phones have keyboards , others do n't , buttons are in different places... ) and some early adopters are stuck with old versions of the OS .
Diversity might be good on full-size PCs , but ultra-portable devices need applications tailored to their display/input capabilities .
ChromeOS will only make Apple 's problem worseChromeOS is interesting - and will get more interesting when we see some actual hardware products rather than just a virtual appliance running a browser .
However , persuading people to " move to the cloud " could be a hard sell , and mobile internet coverage is n't yet up to a device that only works with the internet .
Plus - unless Google do something evil - the online Google apps should work nicely with your slate.2 ) If the expected price of $ 1000 is to be believed , it 'll be a real turn off for anyone looking for a low cost MID.Well , the actual price is anybody 's guess - if they 're selling it with a mobile internet contract , that could be the deliberately inflated " sim free " price .
Anyway , Apple are famous for successfully selling things at a premium.3 ) Let 's be clear , if it 's not e-ink or similar , this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReaderCurrent e-ink technology is only good for dedicated eBook readers .
Its slow refresh rate makes it unsuitable for " general " computing and incapable of smooth animation or video .
OTOH people can and do read eBooks on LCD/OLED screens ( and its feasible that Apple might use a hybrid transmissive/reflective LCD which would be better ) .
If Apple gets into this market , the key factor will be what any hypothetical " iBooks " store is like in terms of range , price and DRM-blight ( the things currently putting thinking persons off eBooks ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it's working across a large set of diverse devices.Sorry, I have an iPod Touch and a HTC Hero - and while the latter isn't bad (and would seem amazing if you hadn't used an iProduct) it doesn't come anywhere near the iProduct for slickness and consistency.
Principle mistake: if you're making a touch screen/accelerometer device, make it a touch screen/accelerometer device - don't randomly have some functions on the screen and others on physical back/menu/zoom buttons or trackballs.
Make sure that all applications can be satisfactorily controlled by touch alone.
Oh, and a multitouch interface should be sufficiently responsive to give the illusion that you are actually dragging objects with your finger.
In Android, you make a gesture and then something happens.
Fail.

As for diversity - you think its a good thing?
Android has only been out for a bit over a year and already there are at least 3 different versions of the UI and core apps (HTC original, HTC Hero, Motorola Droid, Nexus 1) - some phones have keyboards, others don't, buttons are in different places...) and some early adopters are stuck with old versions of the OS.
Diversity might be good on full-size PCs, but ultra-portable devices need applications tailored to their display/input capabilities.
ChromeOS will only make Apple's problem worseChromeOS is interesting - and will get more interesting when we see some actual hardware products rather than just a virtual appliance running a browser.
However, persuading people to "move to the cloud" could be a hard sell, and mobile internet coverage isn't yet up to a device that only works with the internet.
Plus - unless Google do something evil - the online Google apps should work nicely with your slate.2) If the expected price of $1000 is to be believed, it'll be a real turn off for anyone looking for a low cost MID.Well, the actual price is anybody's guess - if they're selling it with a mobile internet contract, that could be the deliberately inflated "sim free" price.
Anyway, Apple are famous for successfully selling things at a premium.3) Let's be clear, if it's not e-ink or similar, this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReaderCurrent e-ink technology is only good for dedicated eBook readers.
Its slow refresh rate makes it unsuitable for "general" computing and incapable of smooth animation or video.
OTOH people can and do read eBooks on LCD/OLED screens (and its feasible that Apple might use a hybrid transmissive/reflective LCD which would be better).
If Apple gets into this market, the key factor will be what any hypothetical "iBooks" store is like in terms of range, price and DRM-blight (the things currently putting thinking persons off eBooks).
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30702844</id>
	<title>Mod abuse</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1262958720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed - that's the one that's not vaporware. Predictably though, anything that isn't praising Apple will get modded down, including my own comment I bet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed - that 's the one that 's not vaporware .
Predictably though , anything that is n't praising Apple will get modded down , including my own comment I bet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed - that's the one that's not vaporware.
Predictably though, anything that isn't praising Apple will get modded down, including my own comment I bet.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696042</id>
	<title>iSlate?</title>
	<author>Sir\_Lewk</author>
	<datestamp>1262972040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Apple hasn't even announced the damned thing yet, then why are we calling it the "iSlate"?  Has slashdot really sunken so far as to making up product names for products that don't even exist?  What is wrong with just saying "speculated Apple tablet"?</p><p>Hell, even just saying "iTablet" would be more bearable...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Apple has n't even announced the damned thing yet , then why are we calling it the " iSlate " ?
Has slashdot really sunken so far as to making up product names for products that do n't even exist ?
What is wrong with just saying " speculated Apple tablet " ? Hell , even just saying " iTablet " would be more bearable.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Apple hasn't even announced the damned thing yet, then why are we calling it the "iSlate"?
Has slashdot really sunken so far as to making up product names for products that don't even exist?
What is wrong with just saying "speculated Apple tablet"?Hell, even just saying "iTablet" would be more bearable...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695794</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>LaurieDash</author>
	<datestamp>1262971200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"the deafening roar of anticipation"  I'm in Australia right, a moderately wealthy fairly technologically developed nation. We're no Japan, but we're no Sudan either. No one I talk to gives a crap about this. My friend is doing a graphic arts diploma and he doesnt even know anyone who cares about this. It will come, if it is good some people will like it. Apple is not a religion, they are a technology company. GTFO with your fake hype.</p></div><p>Companies (and their products) are percieved differently in different cultures. For example Starbucks is huge both in America and here in the UK, yet was <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7530570.stm" title="bbc.co.uk" rel="nofollow">rejected by Australia.</a> [bbc.co.uk] Given that too hate fake hype (and Starbucks for that matter) I think Australia might be the country for me.</p></div>
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<tokenext>" the deafening roar of anticipation " I 'm in Australia right , a moderately wealthy fairly technologically developed nation .
We 're no Japan , but we 're no Sudan either .
No one I talk to gives a crap about this .
My friend is doing a graphic arts diploma and he doesnt even know anyone who cares about this .
It will come , if it is good some people will like it .
Apple is not a religion , they are a technology company .
GTFO with your fake hype.Companies ( and their products ) are percieved differently in different cultures .
For example Starbucks is huge both in America and here in the UK , yet was rejected by Australia .
[ bbc.co.uk ] Given that too hate fake hype ( and Starbucks for that matter ) I think Australia might be the country for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"the deafening roar of anticipation"  I'm in Australia right, a moderately wealthy fairly technologically developed nation.
We're no Japan, but we're no Sudan either.
No one I talk to gives a crap about this.
My friend is doing a graphic arts diploma and he doesnt even know anyone who cares about this.
It will come, if it is good some people will like it.
Apple is not a religion, they are a technology company.
GTFO with your fake hype.Companies (and their products) are percieved differently in different cultures.
For example Starbucks is huge both in America and here in the UK, yet was rejected by Australia.
[bbc.co.uk] Given that too hate fake hype (and Starbucks for that matter) I think Australia might be the country for me.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694726</id>
	<title>As for the name...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262967540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet its called the iPad</p><p>-Jaguarstrike</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet its called the iPad-Jaguarstrike</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet its called the iPad-Jaguarstrike</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697816</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1262979240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Later on Apple copied the Treo format (phone + PDA) Palm made popular and merged it with a virtual keyboard.</p></div><p>Well supposedly part of the reason Jobs killed the Newton is that he thought PDAs wouldn't become truly useful to the mainstream until they were built into phones.  Apple had been working on various phone models for years, but it wasn't until a few years ago that they were happy with the results, hence the iPhone.
</p><p>I'm just saying, it's not quite as though Apple just failed to create a good PDA until Palm showed them how to do it properly.
</p><p>But a fair number of your examples are from the time of Jobs' absence.  It was practically a different company then.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Later on Apple copied the Treo format ( phone + PDA ) Palm made popular and merged it with a virtual keyboard.Well supposedly part of the reason Jobs killed the Newton is that he thought PDAs would n't become truly useful to the mainstream until they were built into phones .
Apple had been working on various phone models for years , but it was n't until a few years ago that they were happy with the results , hence the iPhone .
I 'm just saying , it 's not quite as though Apple just failed to create a good PDA until Palm showed them how to do it properly .
But a fair number of your examples are from the time of Jobs ' absence .
It was practically a different company then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Later on Apple copied the Treo format (phone + PDA) Palm made popular and merged it with a virtual keyboard.Well supposedly part of the reason Jobs killed the Newton is that he thought PDAs wouldn't become truly useful to the mainstream until they were built into phones.
Apple had been working on various phone models for years, but it wasn't until a few years ago that they were happy with the results, hence the iPhone.
I'm just saying, it's not quite as though Apple just failed to create a good PDA until Palm showed them how to do it properly.
But a fair number of your examples are from the time of Jobs' absence.
It was practically a different company then.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697622</id>
	<title>Keyboard's the problem</title>
	<author>nlawalker</author>
	<datestamp>1262978400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really believe that the keyboard (or lack of one) is by far primary issue with tablet computing. Everything else is a niggling issue by comparison.</p><p>The first image many people conjure up when someone says "tablet computer" is stuff you see in movies, where people are shuffling images around and "enhancing" them, speaking to someone in a videoconference, playing a game with their hands, etc. That sounds great! In reality, *most* work that *most* people do with computers involves inputting a lot of text: writing a journal or document, putting in web addresses, tagging or naming files, writing emails or instant messages.</p><p>The niches where tablets are effective are always the ones where text input is not required: where the bulk of the user's work is reading data that's already on the devices and displayed/organized in such a way that it's "at their fingertips," like the canonical example of a doctor reading a chart.</p><p>Until Apple (or anyone else) can figure out how to make the average user's computing experience cease to rely on inputting text, or make a slate computer incredibly cheap so people can justify buying one as a toy that they don't do much with, slates are going to have a hard time in the marketplace. The only convincing example I've heard someone give (I think it was here on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.) was replacing your home magazine rack next to your couch with a net-enabled slate that has a great UI for managing tons of bookmarks to popular sites and a good on-screen keyboard for when you really need to type an address. Unfortunately, a slate that *only* does that is going to be too limited in functionality for most people to bother purchasing it. Most people will continue to purchase what they already do: laptops. They're fine to use on the couch and they do everything else as well, and prices are low.</p><p>A detachable/separate keyboard doesn't solve the problem - now you have another part that you need to keep track of that's not chained down somewhere, so you're going to have to find it every time you want to use it, and then wrestle with connectors/hinges/latches to get it on and off. The best solution is a minimal hard keyboard parallel to the screen that slides out when you need to use it. It works, but just like the phones that have them, you're not going to want to type a document with it, so the use of the tablet still needs to be largely confined to activites that require no text input.</p><p>If you really want a tablet and really need to write, but like the vast majority of other users out there you still need to input a great deal of text, get a folding/converting laptop. Still the best of both worlds, especially if they get thinner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really believe that the keyboard ( or lack of one ) is by far primary issue with tablet computing .
Everything else is a niggling issue by comparison.The first image many people conjure up when someone says " tablet computer " is stuff you see in movies , where people are shuffling images around and " enhancing " them , speaking to someone in a videoconference , playing a game with their hands , etc .
That sounds great !
In reality , * most * work that * most * people do with computers involves inputting a lot of text : writing a journal or document , putting in web addresses , tagging or naming files , writing emails or instant messages.The niches where tablets are effective are always the ones where text input is not required : where the bulk of the user 's work is reading data that 's already on the devices and displayed/organized in such a way that it 's " at their fingertips , " like the canonical example of a doctor reading a chart.Until Apple ( or anyone else ) can figure out how to make the average user 's computing experience cease to rely on inputting text , or make a slate computer incredibly cheap so people can justify buying one as a toy that they do n't do much with , slates are going to have a hard time in the marketplace .
The only convincing example I 've heard someone give ( I think it was here on / .
) was replacing your home magazine rack next to your couch with a net-enabled slate that has a great UI for managing tons of bookmarks to popular sites and a good on-screen keyboard for when you really need to type an address .
Unfortunately , a slate that * only * does that is going to be too limited in functionality for most people to bother purchasing it .
Most people will continue to purchase what they already do : laptops .
They 're fine to use on the couch and they do everything else as well , and prices are low.A detachable/separate keyboard does n't solve the problem - now you have another part that you need to keep track of that 's not chained down somewhere , so you 're going to have to find it every time you want to use it , and then wrestle with connectors/hinges/latches to get it on and off .
The best solution is a minimal hard keyboard parallel to the screen that slides out when you need to use it .
It works , but just like the phones that have them , you 're not going to want to type a document with it , so the use of the tablet still needs to be largely confined to activites that require no text input.If you really want a tablet and really need to write , but like the vast majority of other users out there you still need to input a great deal of text , get a folding/converting laptop .
Still the best of both worlds , especially if they get thinner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really believe that the keyboard (or lack of one) is by far primary issue with tablet computing.
Everything else is a niggling issue by comparison.The first image many people conjure up when someone says "tablet computer" is stuff you see in movies, where people are shuffling images around and "enhancing" them, speaking to someone in a videoconference, playing a game with their hands, etc.
That sounds great!
In reality, *most* work that *most* people do with computers involves inputting a lot of text: writing a journal or document, putting in web addresses, tagging or naming files, writing emails or instant messages.The niches where tablets are effective are always the ones where text input is not required: where the bulk of the user's work is reading data that's already on the devices and displayed/organized in such a way that it's "at their fingertips," like the canonical example of a doctor reading a chart.Until Apple (or anyone else) can figure out how to make the average user's computing experience cease to rely on inputting text, or make a slate computer incredibly cheap so people can justify buying one as a toy that they don't do much with, slates are going to have a hard time in the marketplace.
The only convincing example I've heard someone give (I think it was here on /.
) was replacing your home magazine rack next to your couch with a net-enabled slate that has a great UI for managing tons of bookmarks to popular sites and a good on-screen keyboard for when you really need to type an address.
Unfortunately, a slate that *only* does that is going to be too limited in functionality for most people to bother purchasing it.
Most people will continue to purchase what they already do: laptops.
They're fine to use on the couch and they do everything else as well, and prices are low.A detachable/separate keyboard doesn't solve the problem - now you have another part that you need to keep track of that's not chained down somewhere, so you're going to have to find it every time you want to use it, and then wrestle with connectors/hinges/latches to get it on and off.
The best solution is a minimal hard keyboard parallel to the screen that slides out when you need to use it.
It works, but just like the phones that have them, you're not going to want to type a document with it, so the use of the tablet still needs to be largely confined to activites that require no text input.If you really want a tablet and really need to write, but like the vast majority of other users out there you still need to input a great deal of text, get a folding/converting laptop.
Still the best of both worlds, especially if they get thinner.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695860</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262971440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple's stock price has risen dramatically just because of the "fake media hype".</p><p>Nobody is saying Apple is a religion, except for you guys who like to point out things like "fake media hype".</p><p>Apple is a technology company, with a history of leading the pack in innovations that trickle down into non-Apple products.  People are excited about the tablet because Apple will have innovations, and those innovations will leak down.</p><p>To say otherwise just shows you're immature and naive, and I hope you are just young so it matches.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple 's stock price has risen dramatically just because of the " fake media hype " .Nobody is saying Apple is a religion , except for you guys who like to point out things like " fake media hype " .Apple is a technology company , with a history of leading the pack in innovations that trickle down into non-Apple products .
People are excited about the tablet because Apple will have innovations , and those innovations will leak down.To say otherwise just shows you 're immature and naive , and I hope you are just young so it matches .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple's stock price has risen dramatically just because of the "fake media hype".Nobody is saying Apple is a religion, except for you guys who like to point out things like "fake media hype".Apple is a technology company, with a history of leading the pack in innovations that trickle down into non-Apple products.
People are excited about the tablet because Apple will have innovations, and those innovations will leak down.To say otherwise just shows you're immature and naive, and I hope you are just young so it matches.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30700076</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>justcauseisjustthat</author>
	<datestamp>1262945340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You make it sound like trying and failing is a bad thing! Trying and failing is great, as long as your successes outweigh your failures!!! Well also the failures give you clarity about how to do it better<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p><p>1. The Newton.   1993    16-17 years ago - iPhone and iPod Touch got this right</p><p>2. Apple Pippin.    1995    14-15 years ago  - Never sold by Apple, but some would say iPhone and iPods are taking bite of this market</p><p>3. Power Mac G4 Cube.   1999    10-11 years ago  - Mac mini got this right</p><p>4. Apple QuickTake.     1992    17-18 years ago - iPhone and iPods will continue to bite into this market</p><p>5. Macintosh TV.    1993    16-17 years ago - Apple continues to experiment</p><p>6. Apple's "Hockey Puck" USB Mouse.     1998    11-12 years ago - Apple continues to experiment</p><p>7. eMate.     1997    12-13 years ago - iPhone and iPod Touch got this right</p><p>I remember the 90s they were a fun decade, along time ago.</p><p>Having said that, I have serious doubts about the iSlate/iBook or whatever they want to call it, expectations are way, way, way to high and although I think this market is the future of laptops I'm just not sure Apple will get it right enough<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You make it sound like trying and failing is a bad thing !
Trying and failing is great , as long as your successes outweigh your failures ! ! !
Well also the failures give you clarity about how to do it better : - ) 1 .
The Newton .
1993 16-17 years ago - iPhone and iPod Touch got this right2 .
Apple Pippin .
1995 14-15 years ago - Never sold by Apple , but some would say iPhone and iPods are taking bite of this market3 .
Power Mac G4 Cube .
1999 10-11 years ago - Mac mini got this right4 .
Apple QuickTake .
1992 17-18 years ago - iPhone and iPods will continue to bite into this market5 .
Macintosh TV .
1993 16-17 years ago - Apple continues to experiment6 .
Apple 's " Hockey Puck " USB Mouse .
1998 11-12 years ago - Apple continues to experiment7 .
eMate. 1997 12-13 years ago - iPhone and iPod Touch got this rightI remember the 90s they were a fun decade , along time ago.Having said that , I have serious doubts about the iSlate/iBook or whatever they want to call it , expectations are way , way , way to high and although I think this market is the future of laptops I 'm just not sure Apple will get it right enough : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You make it sound like trying and failing is a bad thing!
Trying and failing is great, as long as your successes outweigh your failures!!!
Well also the failures give you clarity about how to do it better :-)1.
The Newton.
1993    16-17 years ago - iPhone and iPod Touch got this right2.
Apple Pippin.
1995    14-15 years ago  - Never sold by Apple, but some would say iPhone and iPods are taking bite of this market3.
Power Mac G4 Cube.
1999    10-11 years ago  - Mac mini got this right4.
Apple QuickTake.
1992    17-18 years ago - iPhone and iPods will continue to bite into this market5.
Macintosh TV.
1993    16-17 years ago - Apple continues to experiment6.
Apple's "Hockey Puck" USB Mouse.
1998    11-12 years ago - Apple continues to experiment7.
eMate.     1997    12-13 years ago - iPhone and iPod Touch got this rightI remember the 90s they were a fun decade, along time ago.Having said that, I have serious doubts about the iSlate/iBook or whatever they want to call it, expectations are way, way, way to high and although I think this market is the future of laptops I'm just not sure Apple will get it right enough :-)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694870</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>HateBreeder</author>
	<datestamp>1262967960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's called astroturfing, and it's an apple fanboi's favorite pastime after<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... well, that's NSFW.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's called astroturfing , and it 's an apple fanboi 's favorite pastime after ... well , that 's NSFW .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's called astroturfing, and it's an apple fanboi's favorite pastime after ... well, that's NSFW.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694828</id>
	<title>Gestures on the web?</title>
	<author>dintlu</author>
	<datestamp>1262967840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One think I've noticed is that websites are poorly optimized for gesture-based navigation?  If any novel UI implementations are going to come out of an Apple tablet, this is probably the place to look.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One think I 've noticed is that websites are poorly optimized for gesture-based navigation ?
If any novel UI implementations are going to come out of an Apple tablet , this is probably the place to look .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One think I've noticed is that websites are poorly optimized for gesture-based navigation?
If any novel UI implementations are going to come out of an Apple tablet, this is probably the place to look.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696504</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone causing low hopes</title>
	<author>oh2</author>
	<datestamp>1262973960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nokia N900 is looking better by the minute. Maemo (Linux), and theres <a href="http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/" title="maemo.org">Python port</a> [maemo.org] for that, so it wont be hard to code for. A Firefox browser with Flash support and generally <a href="http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia\_n900-2917.php" title="gsmarena.com">nice specs</a> [gsmarena.com] on the hardware front. &euro; 540 or so isnt too bad for a smartphone in that class.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nokia N900 is looking better by the minute .
Maemo ( Linux ) , and theres Python port [ maemo.org ] for that , so it wont be hard to code for .
A Firefox browser with Flash support and generally nice specs [ gsmarena.com ] on the hardware front .
   540 or so isnt too bad for a smartphone in that class .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nokia N900 is looking better by the minute.
Maemo (Linux), and theres Python port [maemo.org] for that, so it wont be hard to code for.
A Firefox browser with Flash support and generally nice specs [gsmarena.com] on the hardware front.
€ 540 or so isnt too bad for a smartphone in that class.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30698674</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>downhole</author>
	<datestamp>1262982960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll register not-quite-agreement on 4. As I recall, the QuickTake didn't really fail or get it wrong so much as it was before it's time - according to Wikipedia, it captured at VGA resolution and stored a whopping 8 pictures in internal memory. Digital camera exploded only after the sensor technology got good enough to rival film cameras, the storage technology got good enough to store dozens or hundreds of film-quality shots, and the processing technology got good enough to do it all at least as fast as film cameras could shoot. The QuickTake failed on all 3, and so it failed in the market, just like pretty much all of the other digital cameras at the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll register not-quite-agreement on 4 .
As I recall , the QuickTake did n't really fail or get it wrong so much as it was before it 's time - according to Wikipedia , it captured at VGA resolution and stored a whopping 8 pictures in internal memory .
Digital camera exploded only after the sensor technology got good enough to rival film cameras , the storage technology got good enough to store dozens or hundreds of film-quality shots , and the processing technology got good enough to do it all at least as fast as film cameras could shoot .
The QuickTake failed on all 3 , and so it failed in the market , just like pretty much all of the other digital cameras at the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll register not-quite-agreement on 4.
As I recall, the QuickTake didn't really fail or get it wrong so much as it was before it's time - according to Wikipedia, it captured at VGA resolution and stored a whopping 8 pictures in internal memory.
Digital camera exploded only after the sensor technology got good enough to rival film cameras, the storage technology got good enough to store dozens or hundreds of film-quality shots, and the processing technology got good enough to do it all at least as fast as film cameras could shoot.
The QuickTake failed on all 3, and so it failed in the market, just like pretty much all of the other digital cameras at the time.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694630</id>
	<title>FIRST!!!! well almost</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262967180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>same goes for Apple's tablet</htmltext>
<tokenext>same goes for Apple 's tablet</tokentext>
<sentencetext>same goes for Apple's tablet</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697508</id>
	<title>Bringing the PDA back, eh?</title>
	<author>zullnero</author>
	<datestamp>1262978040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The solution for all three of those questions is the PDA.  Apparently, all people really wanted was a bigger PDA, and didn't want it shrunk down and merged with a phone.
<br> <br>
Bottom line is that is the logic behind tablets.  PDAs, like the old Palms and such, had their UIs designed for interactivity through touchscreens.  PDAs proved what was possible for that genre way back with the original Palm III (and I don't include that flop called Newton).  PDAs were actually growing larger than smartphones, but because people felt strongly that they should die, killed them off.
<br> <br>
The real problem, though, was we all kept calling them PDAs, but there was nothing about, for example, the Palm TX or Tapwave Zodiac that really made me think that it was a replacement for a binder with a calendar and todo list.
<br> <br>
However, the question remains...will anyone develop an OS specifically for a tablet rocking a 6"x4" (and up) screen, or will they just "grow" their smartphone OS up (or reattempt the tragic Microsoft attempt to "shrink" down their OS and forcefit their desktop ideas into a small form factor).  I really don't think iPhoneOS is practical for a tablet, nor is MacOS.  There's a medium between the two, but I'd imagine some entirely different UI elements that neither share as well.  I'd really prefer to see the linux variants like Android and webOS on a tablet like that, though.  The problem with webOS is it's biggest benefit is being constantly connected to the web...and if you take out that phone data plan, you better have wifi everywhere you go or you miss out on its best features.  As for Android, it had better fully support multitouch on a tablet, or you might as well run it on a single touch digitizer with a stylus.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The solution for all three of those questions is the PDA .
Apparently , all people really wanted was a bigger PDA , and did n't want it shrunk down and merged with a phone .
Bottom line is that is the logic behind tablets .
PDAs , like the old Palms and such , had their UIs designed for interactivity through touchscreens .
PDAs proved what was possible for that genre way back with the original Palm III ( and I do n't include that flop called Newton ) .
PDAs were actually growing larger than smartphones , but because people felt strongly that they should die , killed them off .
The real problem , though , was we all kept calling them PDAs , but there was nothing about , for example , the Palm TX or Tapwave Zodiac that really made me think that it was a replacement for a binder with a calendar and todo list .
However , the question remains...will anyone develop an OS specifically for a tablet rocking a 6 " x4 " ( and up ) screen , or will they just " grow " their smartphone OS up ( or reattempt the tragic Microsoft attempt to " shrink " down their OS and forcefit their desktop ideas into a small form factor ) .
I really do n't think iPhoneOS is practical for a tablet , nor is MacOS .
There 's a medium between the two , but I 'd imagine some entirely different UI elements that neither share as well .
I 'd really prefer to see the linux variants like Android and webOS on a tablet like that , though .
The problem with webOS is it 's biggest benefit is being constantly connected to the web...and if you take out that phone data plan , you better have wifi everywhere you go or you miss out on its best features .
As for Android , it had better fully support multitouch on a tablet , or you might as well run it on a single touch digitizer with a stylus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The solution for all three of those questions is the PDA.
Apparently, all people really wanted was a bigger PDA, and didn't want it shrunk down and merged with a phone.
Bottom line is that is the logic behind tablets.
PDAs, like the old Palms and such, had their UIs designed for interactivity through touchscreens.
PDAs proved what was possible for that genre way back with the original Palm III (and I don't include that flop called Newton).
PDAs were actually growing larger than smartphones, but because people felt strongly that they should die, killed them off.
The real problem, though, was we all kept calling them PDAs, but there was nothing about, for example, the Palm TX or Tapwave Zodiac that really made me think that it was a replacement for a binder with a calendar and todo list.
However, the question remains...will anyone develop an OS specifically for a tablet rocking a 6"x4" (and up) screen, or will they just "grow" their smartphone OS up (or reattempt the tragic Microsoft attempt to "shrink" down their OS and forcefit their desktop ideas into a small form factor).
I really don't think iPhoneOS is practical for a tablet, nor is MacOS.
There's a medium between the two, but I'd imagine some entirely different UI elements that neither share as well.
I'd really prefer to see the linux variants like Android and webOS on a tablet like that, though.
The problem with webOS is it's biggest benefit is being constantly connected to the web...and if you take out that phone data plan, you better have wifi everywhere you go or you miss out on its best features.
As for Android, it had better fully support multitouch on a tablet, or you might as well run it on a single touch digitizer with a stylus.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694928</id>
	<title>Hype and Results</title>
	<author>necro81</author>
	<datestamp>1262968200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>For all the bitching and moaning that a lot of the Slashdot crowd does about Apple and how overhyped/overrated/overpriced/over-everything their products are, I think most would have to grudgingly agree that Apple has driven innovation in the marketplace.  This is a story that has been repeated a number of times: <br> <br>

1) A class of product exists in the marketplace, but has only received lukewarm adoption for a variety of reasons.<br> <br>

2) Apple enters the market with their own device, which has a bunch of features that may or may not have been seen in other devices, but on the whole is a very well integrated package.  Somehow, they saw a way to make the product work.<br> <br>

3) Consumers see Apple's product, like it, want it, and buy it in large numbers.<br> <br>

4) Profit for Apple.<br> <br>

5) Competitors see Apple's success in that market segment and begin to rush in with their own products.  Some are just copycats: adding or removing a feature or two from Apple's benchmark.  The smart ones see what made Apple's product a hit, absorb the new technological paradigm, and introduce their own innovative take on it.<br> <br>

6) Consumers see the competitor products, like (some of) them, want(some of) them, and buy (some of) them in large numbers.<br> <br>

7) Profit for competitors, maybe.<br> <br>

8) Profit (continuing) for Apple, maybe.<br> <br>

9) Consumers have many choices or amazing gee whiz products that are vastly superior to what existed before Apple's entry into the marketplace.  Win.<br> <br>

It certainly doesn't <i>always</i> happen this way.  But it has happened often enough.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For all the bitching and moaning that a lot of the Slashdot crowd does about Apple and how overhyped/overrated/overpriced/over-everything their products are , I think most would have to grudgingly agree that Apple has driven innovation in the marketplace .
This is a story that has been repeated a number of times : 1 ) A class of product exists in the marketplace , but has only received lukewarm adoption for a variety of reasons .
2 ) Apple enters the market with their own device , which has a bunch of features that may or may not have been seen in other devices , but on the whole is a very well integrated package .
Somehow , they saw a way to make the product work .
3 ) Consumers see Apple 's product , like it , want it , and buy it in large numbers .
4 ) Profit for Apple .
5 ) Competitors see Apple 's success in that market segment and begin to rush in with their own products .
Some are just copycats : adding or removing a feature or two from Apple 's benchmark .
The smart ones see what made Apple 's product a hit , absorb the new technological paradigm , and introduce their own innovative take on it .
6 ) Consumers see the competitor products , like ( some of ) them , want ( some of ) them , and buy ( some of ) them in large numbers .
7 ) Profit for competitors , maybe .
8 ) Profit ( continuing ) for Apple , maybe .
9 ) Consumers have many choices or amazing gee whiz products that are vastly superior to what existed before Apple 's entry into the marketplace .
Win . It certainly does n't always happen this way .
But it has happened often enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For all the bitching and moaning that a lot of the Slashdot crowd does about Apple and how overhyped/overrated/overpriced/over-everything their products are, I think most would have to grudgingly agree that Apple has driven innovation in the marketplace.
This is a story that has been repeated a number of times:  

1) A class of product exists in the marketplace, but has only received lukewarm adoption for a variety of reasons.
2) Apple enters the market with their own device, which has a bunch of features that may or may not have been seen in other devices, but on the whole is a very well integrated package.
Somehow, they saw a way to make the product work.
3) Consumers see Apple's product, like it, want it, and buy it in large numbers.
4) Profit for Apple.
5) Competitors see Apple's success in that market segment and begin to rush in with their own products.
Some are just copycats: adding or removing a feature or two from Apple's benchmark.
The smart ones see what made Apple's product a hit, absorb the new technological paradigm, and introduce their own innovative take on it.
6) Consumers see the competitor products, like (some of) them, want(some of) them, and buy (some of) them in large numbers.
7) Profit for competitors, maybe.
8) Profit (continuing) for Apple, maybe.
9) Consumers have many choices or amazing gee whiz products that are vastly superior to what existed before Apple's entry into the marketplace.
Win. 

It certainly doesn't always happen this way.
But it has happened often enough.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697148</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262976540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or you could say that Apple are so far ahead of the crowd that their ideas only become a success 20 years after they seeded the idea.</p><p>I have to say that the macintosh TV and quicktake were what 10 or 15 years ago !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or you could say that Apple are so far ahead of the crowd that their ideas only become a success 20 years after they seeded the idea.I have to say that the macintosh TV and quicktake were what 10 or 15 years ago !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or you could say that Apple are so far ahead of the crowd that their ideas only become a success 20 years after they seeded the idea.I have to say that the macintosh TV and quicktake were what 10 or 15 years ago !</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695508</id>
	<title>Re:too big</title>
	<author>mbradshawlong</author>
	<datestamp>1262970240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Netbooks are still too big to fit in a lot of women's purses, but a tablet might be the perfect size.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Netbooks are still too big to fit in a lot of women 's purses , but a tablet might be the perfect size .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Netbooks are still too big to fit in a lot of women's purses, but a tablet might be the perfect size.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695218</id>
	<title>Re:If it can't fit in my pocket...</title>
	<author>gestalt\_n\_pepper</author>
	<datestamp>1262969280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I want voice operated wearable wi-fi enabled computer whose semi-transparent color 3D display is worn as contact lenses.</p><p>Anything else is stone age.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I want voice operated wearable wi-fi enabled computer whose semi-transparent color 3D display is worn as contact lenses.Anything else is stone age .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want voice operated wearable wi-fi enabled computer whose semi-transparent color 3D display is worn as contact lenses.Anything else is stone age.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30700082</id>
	<title>Re:If it can't fit in my pocket...</title>
	<author>southpolesammy</author>
	<datestamp>1262945400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I see someone else here has read "Rainbows End".  Interesting book, for those who haven't read it, and touches on the parent's post.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see someone else here has read " Rainbows End " .
Interesting book , for those who have n't read it , and touches on the parent 's post .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see someone else here has read "Rainbows End".
Interesting book, for those who haven't read it, and touches on the parent's post.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694640</id>
	<title>Origami</title>
	<author>p0</author>
	<datestamp>1262967240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does anyone remember those awesome promo videos from the Origami Project? I wonder what went wrong.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone remember those awesome promo videos from the Origami Project ?
I wonder what went wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone remember those awesome promo videos from the Origami Project?
I wonder what went wrong.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30698228</id>
	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>thesandtiger</author>
	<datestamp>1262980980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I used to do consulting work a client said something similar - "You just clicked a few buttons - why should I pay this much for that?"</p><p>My response was direct and to the point: You aren't paying for me to click the buttons, you're paying because I know which ones to click.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I used to do consulting work a client said something similar - " You just clicked a few buttons - why should I pay this much for that ?
" My response was direct and to the point : You are n't paying for me to click the buttons , you 're paying because I know which ones to click .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I used to do consulting work a client said something similar - "You just clicked a few buttons - why should I pay this much for that?
"My response was direct and to the point: You aren't paying for me to click the buttons, you're paying because I know which ones to click.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695980</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>itsdapead</author>
	<datestamp>1262971860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Not to say that Apple's tablet won't be the most wonderful thing ever, but IMO there's no comparison here to smart phones or even MP3 players.</p></div><p>Except Apple are in an ideal position to sell their tablet as a iPhone/iPod Touch on steroids rather than a crippled desktop computer. They also have a whole store full of applications and casual games designed specifically for touch/accelerometer operation.

</p><p>The iPod Touch makes a nifty little video player, web and email browser, but its a tad too small. An A5 one would be rather attractive...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to say that Apple 's tablet wo n't be the most wonderful thing ever , but IMO there 's no comparison here to smart phones or even MP3 players.Except Apple are in an ideal position to sell their tablet as a iPhone/iPod Touch on steroids rather than a crippled desktop computer .
They also have a whole store full of applications and casual games designed specifically for touch/accelerometer operation .
The iPod Touch makes a nifty little video player , web and email browser , but its a tad too small .
An A5 one would be rather attractive.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to say that Apple's tablet won't be the most wonderful thing ever, but IMO there's no comparison here to smart phones or even MP3 players.Except Apple are in an ideal position to sell their tablet as a iPhone/iPod Touch on steroids rather than a crippled desktop computer.
They also have a whole store full of applications and casual games designed specifically for touch/accelerometer operation.
The iPod Touch makes a nifty little video player, web and email browser, but its a tad too small.
An A5 one would be rather attractive...
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695466</id>
	<title>Long ways from a tricorder</title>
	<author>damn\_registrars</author>
	<datestamp>1262970060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unless Apple is planning some truly revolutionary new input (in terms of computers) on this device, I don't see how it will be able to tell us anything about alien life/air/soil samples.  We've seen <a href="http://www.physorg.com/news91816015.html" title="physorg.com">other tricorder-like devices before</a> [physorg.com]; hell we've <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/27/2229216&amp;from=rss" title="slashdot.org">even discussed them on slashdot before</a> [slashdot.org].  And this Apple tablet is a long ways from that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless Apple is planning some truly revolutionary new input ( in terms of computers ) on this device , I do n't see how it will be able to tell us anything about alien life/air/soil samples .
We 've seen other tricorder-like devices before [ physorg.com ] ; hell we 've even discussed them on slashdot before [ slashdot.org ] .
And this Apple tablet is a long ways from that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless Apple is planning some truly revolutionary new input (in terms of computers) on this device, I don't see how it will be able to tell us anything about alien life/air/soil samples.
We've seen other tricorder-like devices before [physorg.com]; hell we've even discussed them on slashdot before [slashdot.org].
And this Apple tablet is a long ways from that.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695284</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing Latent About It</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1262969520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since it's smaller than a laptop, but bigger than a smartphone, maybe we need to give it a new name. I propose the term "netbook."</p><p>Who *wouldn't* pay $1000 for something like that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since it 's smaller than a laptop , but bigger than a smartphone , maybe we need to give it a new name .
I propose the term " netbook .
" Who * would n't * pay $ 1000 for something like that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since it's smaller than a laptop, but bigger than a smartphone, maybe we need to give it a new name.
I propose the term "netbook.
"Who *wouldn't* pay $1000 for something like that?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695054</id>
	<title>Enough already</title>
	<author>daemonenwind</author>
	<datestamp>1262968560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can we wait with more speculative crap "stories" until there's more substance to this tablet rumor than there is to Duke Nukem Forever?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can we wait with more speculative crap " stories " until there 's more substance to this tablet rumor than there is to Duke Nukem Forever ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can we wait with more speculative crap "stories" until there's more substance to this tablet rumor than there is to Duke Nukem Forever?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694750</id>
	<title>Nothing Latent About It</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262967600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There's latent demand for a mobile computing device that's smaller and lighter than a laptop but has more screen real estate than a smartphone...</p></div><p>
Nothing latent about it - this is \_EXACTLY\_ what I'm interested in seeing. While I would love a high end Mac laptop (among many other tech toys), I really just want an iPhone/iPod Touch on steroids and, from what I'd imagine, the "iTablet" (or whatever it will be called) will almost certainly fit that bill perfectly. The fact that it's from Apple and will surely have some additional surprises along the way is just icing on the cake.<br> <br>
Of course, time will tell if they deliver what I am looking for, but I suspect it'll be another damn cool piece of tech that I try to find a justification to buy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's latent demand for a mobile computing device that 's smaller and lighter than a laptop but has more screen real estate than a smartphone.. . Nothing latent about it - this is \ _EXACTLY \ _ what I 'm interested in seeing .
While I would love a high end Mac laptop ( among many other tech toys ) , I really just want an iPhone/iPod Touch on steroids and , from what I 'd imagine , the " iTablet " ( or whatever it will be called ) will almost certainly fit that bill perfectly .
The fact that it 's from Apple and will surely have some additional surprises along the way is just icing on the cake .
Of course , time will tell if they deliver what I am looking for , but I suspect it 'll be another damn cool piece of tech that I try to find a justification to buy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's latent demand for a mobile computing device that's smaller and lighter than a laptop but has more screen real estate than a smartphone...
Nothing latent about it - this is \_EXACTLY\_ what I'm interested in seeing.
While I would love a high end Mac laptop (among many other tech toys), I really just want an iPhone/iPod Touch on steroids and, from what I'd imagine, the "iTablet" (or whatever it will be called) will almost certainly fit that bill perfectly.
The fact that it's from Apple and will surely have some additional surprises along the way is just icing on the cake.
Of course, time will tell if they deliver what I am looking for, but I suspect it'll be another damn cool piece of tech that I try to find a justification to buy.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694832</id>
	<title>If it can't fit in my pocket...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262967840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ok here is my take on it...</p><p>If it can't fit in my pocket then I won't be buying it. I would like a device that is like old scrolls and roll out. Folding it neatly into my shirt pocket when I don't use it. At most four times larger than a ball point pen.</p><p>Anything else is stone-age.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok here is my take on it...If it ca n't fit in my pocket then I wo n't be buying it .
I would like a device that is like old scrolls and roll out .
Folding it neatly into my shirt pocket when I do n't use it .
At most four times larger than a ball point pen.Anything else is stone-age .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok here is my take on it...If it can't fit in my pocket then I won't be buying it.
I would like a device that is like old scrolls and roll out.
Folding it neatly into my shirt pocket when I don't use it.
At most four times larger than a ball point pen.Anything else is stone-age.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696546</id>
	<title>Not the right form factor</title>
	<author>rclandrum</author>
	<datestamp>1262974080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I buy a smartphone because it can fit in my pocket plus do phone calls, email, browsing, video, cameras, games, and some light special purpose business apps.<br> <br>

I buy a laptop because there are times when a smartphone isn't beefy enough, I need to do serious data input, document editing, presentations, or just about anything else I can do with a desktop.<br> <br>

I see no compelling reason for any tablet to replace either of these devices.  If I want convenience, I can grab my smartphone. If I want power and am willing to put up with a device that won't fit in my pocket, I can grab my laptop or netbook.  <br> <br>

 I certainly wouldn't  think "Hey, what I really need is a larger smartphone that won't fit in my pocket or a laptop without the nice tactile keyboard I am used to."<br> <br>

So - the negatives of a tablet are that it won't fit in your pocket and doesn't have the single, reliable input device we are all familiar with - the keyboard.  In my mind, the pluses would need to be significant to overcomes these drawbacks.  <br> <br>

If it had a roll-up or fold up screen that allowed it to still fit in my pocket, while having the power of a laptop, you might get me to take a second look.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I buy a smartphone because it can fit in my pocket plus do phone calls , email , browsing , video , cameras , games , and some light special purpose business apps .
I buy a laptop because there are times when a smartphone is n't beefy enough , I need to do serious data input , document editing , presentations , or just about anything else I can do with a desktop .
I see no compelling reason for any tablet to replace either of these devices .
If I want convenience , I can grab my smartphone .
If I want power and am willing to put up with a device that wo n't fit in my pocket , I can grab my laptop or netbook .
I certainly would n't think " Hey , what I really need is a larger smartphone that wo n't fit in my pocket or a laptop without the nice tactile keyboard I am used to .
" So - the negatives of a tablet are that it wo n't fit in your pocket and does n't have the single , reliable input device we are all familiar with - the keyboard .
In my mind , the pluses would need to be significant to overcomes these drawbacks .
If it had a roll-up or fold up screen that allowed it to still fit in my pocket , while having the power of a laptop , you might get me to take a second look .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I buy a smartphone because it can fit in my pocket plus do phone calls, email, browsing, video, cameras, games, and some light special purpose business apps.
I buy a laptop because there are times when a smartphone isn't beefy enough, I need to do serious data input, document editing, presentations, or just about anything else I can do with a desktop.
I see no compelling reason for any tablet to replace either of these devices.
If I want convenience, I can grab my smartphone.
If I want power and am willing to put up with a device that won't fit in my pocket, I can grab my laptop or netbook.
I certainly wouldn't  think "Hey, what I really need is a larger smartphone that won't fit in my pocket or a laptop without the nice tactile keyboard I am used to.
" 

So - the negatives of a tablet are that it won't fit in your pocket and doesn't have the single, reliable input device we are all familiar with - the keyboard.
In my mind, the pluses would need to be significant to overcomes these drawbacks.
If it had a roll-up or fold up screen that allowed it to still fit in my pocket, while having the power of a laptop, you might get me to take a second look.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696110</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>the\_humeister</author>
	<datestamp>1262972280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B1LNfoX9Sg&amp;feature=related" title="youtube.com">Obligatory: Steve introducing iPhone</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obligatory : Steve introducing iPhone [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obligatory: Steve introducing iPhone [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30698472</id>
	<title>Per processor licensing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262982000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not for Android - for the tier one OEMs.  No doubt Microsoft's helpful licensing representatives have already picked up the phone and reminded the big vendors that "Hey, it's got a CPU, so that's a Windows license - and hey, aren't we reviewing your licensing commitment this year?  There have been some pricing changes and we'll want to review your partnership commitment."
</p><p>They'll need to spin off some wholly owned subsidiaries with a few layers of shell companies to hide their tracks before they ship a slate type device with Snapdragon and Android.
</p><p>But man, the thing looks to be really neat and inexpensive and I hope the indie shops get them soon.  HTC could probably build a line of these and sell them direct on Amazon.com for $3-500 and I'd put several of them under the tree this year.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not for Android - for the tier one OEMs .
No doubt Microsoft 's helpful licensing representatives have already picked up the phone and reminded the big vendors that " Hey , it 's got a CPU , so that 's a Windows license - and hey , are n't we reviewing your licensing commitment this year ?
There have been some pricing changes and we 'll want to review your partnership commitment .
" They 'll need to spin off some wholly owned subsidiaries with a few layers of shell companies to hide their tracks before they ship a slate type device with Snapdragon and Android .
But man , the thing looks to be really neat and inexpensive and I hope the indie shops get them soon .
HTC could probably build a line of these and sell them direct on Amazon.com for $ 3-500 and I 'd put several of them under the tree this year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not for Android - for the tier one OEMs.
No doubt Microsoft's helpful licensing representatives have already picked up the phone and reminded the big vendors that "Hey, it's got a CPU, so that's a Windows license - and hey, aren't we reviewing your licensing commitment this year?
There have been some pricing changes and we'll want to review your partnership commitment.
"
They'll need to spin off some wholly owned subsidiaries with a few layers of shell companies to hide their tracks before they ship a slate type device with Snapdragon and Android.
But man, the thing looks to be really neat and inexpensive and I hope the indie shops get them soon.
HTC could probably build a line of these and sell them direct on Amazon.com for $3-500 and I'd put several of them under the tree this year.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697074</id>
	<title>Apple</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262976240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I'll Buy Anything As Long As It's Shiny and Made By Apple"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I 'll Buy Anything As Long As It 's Shiny and Made By Apple "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I'll Buy Anything As Long As It's Shiny and Made By Apple"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30700104</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone causing low hopes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262945460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you think that the first cell phone that A) made a worthy interface for a phone and more importantly b) broke the cell carriers hold over the hardware in a cell phone  set back computing 30 years?  wow,  have unrealistic memories of what cell phones were like prior?</p><p>I still won't use verizon or sprint because they cripple file transfers over bluetooth so you have pay ridiculous data charges to get a picture off their phones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you think that the first cell phone that A ) made a worthy interface for a phone and more importantly b ) broke the cell carriers hold over the hardware in a cell phone set back computing 30 years ?
wow , have unrealistic memories of what cell phones were like prior ? I still wo n't use verizon or sprint because they cripple file transfers over bluetooth so you have pay ridiculous data charges to get a picture off their phones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you think that the first cell phone that A) made a worthy interface for a phone and more importantly b) broke the cell carriers hold over the hardware in a cell phone  set back computing 30 years?
wow,  have unrealistic memories of what cell phones were like prior?I still won't use verizon or sprint because they cripple file transfers over bluetooth so you have pay ridiculous data charges to get a picture off their phones.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30705122</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262977680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>cliffside malibu scam</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>cliffside malibu scam</tokentext>
<sentencetext>cliffside malibu scam</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697604</id>
	<title>Re:Oh, my poor rotator cuffs</title>
	<author>MattSausage</author>
	<datestamp>1262978400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Slightly off topic, but I have this same question about the 'Natal' interface supposedly coming out for the xbox 360 soon. the ads show kids with their arms out as if driving a car or holding a rifle, or even swinging a fishing pole.  In what world am I going to want to race a car for ten minutes straight having to hold my arms out and steer without a wheel?<br> <br>Seems like that would be killer on the arms.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Slightly off topic , but I have this same question about the 'Natal ' interface supposedly coming out for the xbox 360 soon .
the ads show kids with their arms out as if driving a car or holding a rifle , or even swinging a fishing pole .
In what world am I going to want to race a car for ten minutes straight having to hold my arms out and steer without a wheel ?
Seems like that would be killer on the arms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slightly off topic, but I have this same question about the 'Natal' interface supposedly coming out for the xbox 360 soon.
the ads show kids with their arms out as if driving a car or holding a rifle, or even swinging a fishing pole.
In what world am I going to want to race a car for ten minutes straight having to hold my arms out and steer without a wheel?
Seems like that would be killer on the arms.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694856</id>
	<title>Re:LOL WUT?</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1262967960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iPhone is a nifty idea with the accelerometer and the gps and the multi-touch.</p><p>However, it's locked in a phone form factor that is very limiting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPhone is a nifty idea with the accelerometer and the gps and the multi-touch.However , it 's locked in a phone form factor that is very limiting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPhone is a nifty idea with the accelerometer and the gps and the multi-touch.However, it's locked in a phone form factor that is very limiting.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30699186</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262941860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interestingly, most of the failures you mention were during Gil Amelio's reign at Apple -- they failed because the company became disconnected from what would actually be useful to people and they released products too early, not taking market acceptance into consideration.</p><p>Also, the eMate wasn't really a failure; it was a great device in the educational market; the thing that killed it was Steve Jobs -- when he returned to Apple, one of the first things he did was kill all Newton/eMate/etc. development and products, because the department as a whole was pushing a loss leader the market didn't want at the time, and a product that already had a stigma attached to it due to the first generation Newtons and their bad handwriting recognition/delicate cases.</p><p>I always wished they had kept the eMate line, updated to modern hardware and software.  Somehow I doubt the tablet will be this device.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interestingly , most of the failures you mention were during Gil Amelio 's reign at Apple -- they failed because the company became disconnected from what would actually be useful to people and they released products too early , not taking market acceptance into consideration.Also , the eMate was n't really a failure ; it was a great device in the educational market ; the thing that killed it was Steve Jobs -- when he returned to Apple , one of the first things he did was kill all Newton/eMate/etc .
development and products , because the department as a whole was pushing a loss leader the market did n't want at the time , and a product that already had a stigma attached to it due to the first generation Newtons and their bad handwriting recognition/delicate cases.I always wished they had kept the eMate line , updated to modern hardware and software .
Somehow I doubt the tablet will be this device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interestingly, most of the failures you mention were during Gil Amelio's reign at Apple -- they failed because the company became disconnected from what would actually be useful to people and they released products too early, not taking market acceptance into consideration.Also, the eMate wasn't really a failure; it was a great device in the educational market; the thing that killed it was Steve Jobs -- when he returned to Apple, one of the first things he did was kill all Newton/eMate/etc.
development and products, because the department as a whole was pushing a loss leader the market didn't want at the time, and a product that already had a stigma attached to it due to the first generation Newtons and their bad handwriting recognition/delicate cases.I always wished they had kept the eMate line, updated to modern hardware and software.
Somehow I doubt the tablet will be this device.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696296</id>
	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262973060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He was talking crap. I'm an Architect. I work live in our 3D/CAM/BIM software in front of the client all the damn time. It's a huge win, they get to feel more involved, I get their direct feedback, and the project's all the better for them. If your old teacher was the shit, he's be running his own design firm, not teaching.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He was talking crap .
I 'm an Architect .
I work live in our 3D/CAM/BIM software in front of the client all the damn time .
It 's a huge win , they get to feel more involved , I get their direct feedback , and the project 's all the better for them .
If your old teacher was the shit , he 's be running his own design firm , not teaching .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He was talking crap.
I'm an Architect.
I work live in our 3D/CAM/BIM software in front of the client all the damn time.
It's a huge win, they get to feel more involved, I get their direct feedback, and the project's all the better for them.
If your old teacher was the shit, he's be running his own design firm, not teaching.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695786</id>
	<title>Re:If it can't fit in my pocket...</title>
	<author>IrquiM</author>
	<datestamp>1262971200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you tried Ebay?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you tried Ebay ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you tried Ebay?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694798</id>
	<title>Lenovo Thinkpad X41/X60/X61 Tablet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262967780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, people haven't liked tablet PCs because what they've seen are useless tablets that can't convert to laptops. Others have seen too many heavy tablet PCs by companies like Acer that suck. Lenovo Thinkpad tablets are the best the industry has to offer.</p><p>For this new tablet to succeed, it will need to be lighter, yet allow people to install third party applications.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , people have n't liked tablet PCs because what they 've seen are useless tablets that ca n't convert to laptops .
Others have seen too many heavy tablet PCs by companies like Acer that suck .
Lenovo Thinkpad tablets are the best the industry has to offer.For this new tablet to succeed , it will need to be lighter , yet allow people to install third party applications .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, people haven't liked tablet PCs because what they've seen are useless tablets that can't convert to laptops.
Others have seen too many heavy tablet PCs by companies like Acer that suck.
Lenovo Thinkpad tablets are the best the industry has to offer.For this new tablet to succeed, it will need to be lighter, yet allow people to install third party applications.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695760</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262971080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>My friend is doing a graphic arts diploma and he doesnt even know anyone who cares about this.</p></div><p>
Then tell your friend, from someone who's been a graphic designer for two decades, that he's an idiot. If he can't imagine an iTablet (or whatever it's called) also serving as a wacom tablet-type thing, which is a graphic designer's dream toy, then he's not going to be long for this career. If he can't imagine the possibilities that something like this provides someone who works with digital artwork, then he isn't creative enough for this business. I'm not saying this thing \_will\_ change the graphic design world but to not be able to imagine how it \_could\_ change how graphic designers work is pretty sad for someone who's working towards a degree in the field.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>My friend is doing a graphic arts diploma and he doesnt even know anyone who cares about this .
Then tell your friend , from someone who 's been a graphic designer for two decades , that he 's an idiot .
If he ca n't imagine an iTablet ( or whatever it 's called ) also serving as a wacom tablet-type thing , which is a graphic designer 's dream toy , then he 's not going to be long for this career .
If he ca n't imagine the possibilities that something like this provides someone who works with digital artwork , then he is n't creative enough for this business .
I 'm not saying this thing \ _will \ _ change the graphic design world but to not be able to imagine how it \ _could \ _ change how graphic designers work is pretty sad for someone who 's working towards a degree in the field .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My friend is doing a graphic arts diploma and he doesnt even know anyone who cares about this.
Then tell your friend, from someone who's been a graphic designer for two decades, that he's an idiot.
If he can't imagine an iTablet (or whatever it's called) also serving as a wacom tablet-type thing, which is a graphic designer's dream toy, then he's not going to be long for this career.
If he can't imagine the possibilities that something like this provides someone who works with digital artwork, then he isn't creative enough for this business.
I'm not saying this thing \_will\_ change the graphic design world but to not be able to imagine how it \_could\_ change how graphic designers work is pretty sad for someone who's working towards a degree in the field.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694866</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262967960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>And it's not like Apple and its pet media does the same damn thing with each product release. I can hardly wait for the testimonials about how the press releases alone cured someone's impotency or hair loss.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And it 's not like Apple and its pet media does the same damn thing with each product release .
I can hardly wait for the testimonials about how the press releases alone cured someone 's impotency or hair loss .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And it's not like Apple and its pet media does the same damn thing with each product release.
I can hardly wait for the testimonials about how the press releases alone cured someone's impotency or hair loss.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30701686</id>
	<title>Re:LOL WUT?</title>
	<author>Serious Callers Only</author>
	<datestamp>1262952840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Let's be clear, if it's not e-ink or similar, this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReader</p></div><p>Interesting that you say that, because e-ink versus LCD for me would be a mark against the e-ink device. Purely because I don't want a low refresh rate, low resolution, greyscale display. Those disadvantages aren't enough to make up for a reflective screen (longer battery life, debatably easier to read). I suspect most of the buying public agree, but we'll see this year which, as both readers will be head to head (regardless of whether you see them as competing). Of course there have been some attempts to bridge the gap, but LCD wins on everything that matters to me at the moment. Evidently you value a reflective screen more.</p><p>I do agree Android will be a significant competitor to Apple in this space (perhaps the only significant competitor apart from Kindle, unless MS gets its act together and actually executes something like Courier).</p><p>I imagine it'll be just under $1000 initially (i.e. overpriced for most people), and then will gradually slide down in price till it's close to netbook prices. That's what they did with the iPhone and touch, and it worked out well for them. So initially it'll be dismissed on Slashdot as overpriced, no e-ink, no keyboard, no full Windows 7, but depending on the UI, future pricing, and what apps/content is available, it could very easily grow to dwarf any Kindle sales.</p><p>Personally just having full colour browsing, video and media on a slate form factor with a good touch UI would be worth say $800 to me, so long as it is thin and has reasonable battery life.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Let 's be clear , if it 's not e-ink or similar , this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReaderInteresting that you say that , because e-ink versus LCD for me would be a mark against the e-ink device .
Purely because I do n't want a low refresh rate , low resolution , greyscale display .
Those disadvantages are n't enough to make up for a reflective screen ( longer battery life , debatably easier to read ) .
I suspect most of the buying public agree , but we 'll see this year which , as both readers will be head to head ( regardless of whether you see them as competing ) .
Of course there have been some attempts to bridge the gap , but LCD wins on everything that matters to me at the moment .
Evidently you value a reflective screen more.I do agree Android will be a significant competitor to Apple in this space ( perhaps the only significant competitor apart from Kindle , unless MS gets its act together and actually executes something like Courier ) .I imagine it 'll be just under $ 1000 initially ( i.e .
overpriced for most people ) , and then will gradually slide down in price till it 's close to netbook prices .
That 's what they did with the iPhone and touch , and it worked out well for them .
So initially it 'll be dismissed on Slashdot as overpriced , no e-ink , no keyboard , no full Windows 7 , but depending on the UI , future pricing , and what apps/content is available , it could very easily grow to dwarf any Kindle sales.Personally just having full colour browsing , video and media on a slate form factor with a good touch UI would be worth say $ 800 to me , so long as it is thin and has reasonable battery life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's be clear, if it's not e-ink or similar, this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReaderInteresting that you say that, because e-ink versus LCD for me would be a mark against the e-ink device.
Purely because I don't want a low refresh rate, low resolution, greyscale display.
Those disadvantages aren't enough to make up for a reflective screen (longer battery life, debatably easier to read).
I suspect most of the buying public agree, but we'll see this year which, as both readers will be head to head (regardless of whether you see them as competing).
Of course there have been some attempts to bridge the gap, but LCD wins on everything that matters to me at the moment.
Evidently you value a reflective screen more.I do agree Android will be a significant competitor to Apple in this space (perhaps the only significant competitor apart from Kindle, unless MS gets its act together and actually executes something like Courier).I imagine it'll be just under $1000 initially (i.e.
overpriced for most people), and then will gradually slide down in price till it's close to netbook prices.
That's what they did with the iPhone and touch, and it worked out well for them.
So initially it'll be dismissed on Slashdot as overpriced, no e-ink, no keyboard, no full Windows 7, but depending on the UI, future pricing, and what apps/content is available, it could very easily grow to dwarf any Kindle sales.Personally just having full colour browsing, video and media on a slate form factor with a good touch UI would be worth say $800 to me, so long as it is thin and has reasonable battery life.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696634</id>
	<title>My Speculation: tablet will be in the "air" family</title>
	<author>linuxtelephony</author>
	<datestamp>1262974440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Friend of mine and I were talking about this earlier in the week. My guess is that there will be something of a tablet and that it will be in the macbook air family. Something like a keyboardless mac book air, but able to use the bluetooth keyboard/mouse they already offer (or a new smaller version possibly for the purpose). This would let the air become even thinner.</p><p>Wildly off-the-wall speculation - verizon data card built in or optional.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Friend of mine and I were talking about this earlier in the week .
My guess is that there will be something of a tablet and that it will be in the macbook air family .
Something like a keyboardless mac book air , but able to use the bluetooth keyboard/mouse they already offer ( or a new smaller version possibly for the purpose ) .
This would let the air become even thinner.Wildly off-the-wall speculation - verizon data card built in or optional .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Friend of mine and I were talking about this earlier in the week.
My guess is that there will be something of a tablet and that it will be in the macbook air family.
Something like a keyboardless mac book air, but able to use the bluetooth keyboard/mouse they already offer (or a new smaller version possibly for the purpose).
This would let the air become even thinner.Wildly off-the-wall speculation - verizon data card built in or optional.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694942</id>
	<title>Microsoft seems to be a fan</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262968260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Steve Balmer seems to be naming everything in sight "Slate". I heard he named his cat Slate. They definitely seem convinced it's going to be named "iSlate". It'd be the greatest hoax in history if Jobes came out, held up a mini chalkboard and chalk and just said "got ya!" The flying chair would cause a sonic boom.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Steve Balmer seems to be naming everything in sight " Slate " .
I heard he named his cat Slate .
They definitely seem convinced it 's going to be named " iSlate " .
It 'd be the greatest hoax in history if Jobes came out , held up a mini chalkboard and chalk and just said " got ya !
" The flying chair would cause a sonic boom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Steve Balmer seems to be naming everything in sight "Slate".
I heard he named his cat Slate.
They definitely seem convinced it's going to be named "iSlate".
It'd be the greatest hoax in history if Jobes came out, held up a mini chalkboard and chalk and just said "got ya!
" The flying chair would cause a sonic boom.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697490</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262977920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just a thought - but if Apple have anticipated this then imagine if, you place the new tablet next to an "normal" Apple pc running photoshop and it instantly and seamlessly becomes a drawing tablet. Move it away and it's back to being a tablet pc.
Apple very often come out with something that no one else had thought of that then causes a rush to buy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just a thought - but if Apple have anticipated this then imagine if , you place the new tablet next to an " normal " Apple pc running photoshop and it instantly and seamlessly becomes a drawing tablet .
Move it away and it 's back to being a tablet pc .
Apple very often come out with something that no one else had thought of that then causes a rush to buy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just a thought - but if Apple have anticipated this then imagine if, you place the new tablet next to an "normal" Apple pc running photoshop and it instantly and seamlessly becomes a drawing tablet.
Move it away and it's back to being a tablet pc.
Apple very often come out with something that no one else had thought of that then causes a rush to buy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30703582</id>
	<title>Re:LOL WUT?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262963520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While people can and do read eBooks on LCD/OLED screens, your forget that one of the main benefits of e-ink that LCD/OLED does not have is very low power consumption.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While people can and do read eBooks on LCD/OLED screens , your forget that one of the main benefits of e-ink that LCD/OLED does not have is very low power consumption .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While people can and do read eBooks on LCD/OLED screens, your forget that one of the main benefits of e-ink that LCD/OLED does not have is very low power consumption.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696392</id>
	<title>Re:Oh, my poor rotator cuffs</title>
	<author>Striikerr</author>
	<datestamp>1262973480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree. The displays will become smudged with stuff from your fingers too. I have always believed that switching exclusively to a touch-based desktop display to be a bad idea. A better thing would be to include touchscreen computing on the desktop. So, you still use the familiar mouse and keyboard but you can also use touch. I think in the next few years, we will see an addition of the computer capturing gestures to interact with desktop content while still employing the keyboard and mouse. In fact, I suspect that this will be the path which ultimately will lead to using gestures as a primary way to quickly move things around on the screen and to access data (yes, go ahead and think of Minority Report, but not as gimmicky). There will not be a successful cutoff where a manufacturer can convince people to stop using one way of interacting with their systems and adapt a new way "cold-turkey".</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
The displays will become smudged with stuff from your fingers too .
I have always believed that switching exclusively to a touch-based desktop display to be a bad idea .
A better thing would be to include touchscreen computing on the desktop .
So , you still use the familiar mouse and keyboard but you can also use touch .
I think in the next few years , we will see an addition of the computer capturing gestures to interact with desktop content while still employing the keyboard and mouse .
In fact , I suspect that this will be the path which ultimately will lead to using gestures as a primary way to quickly move things around on the screen and to access data ( yes , go ahead and think of Minority Report , but not as gimmicky ) .
There will not be a successful cutoff where a manufacturer can convince people to stop using one way of interacting with their systems and adapt a new way " cold-turkey " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
The displays will become smudged with stuff from your fingers too.
I have always believed that switching exclusively to a touch-based desktop display to be a bad idea.
A better thing would be to include touchscreen computing on the desktop.
So, you still use the familiar mouse and keyboard but you can also use touch.
I think in the next few years, we will see an addition of the computer capturing gestures to interact with desktop content while still employing the keyboard and mouse.
In fact, I suspect that this will be the path which ultimately will lead to using gestures as a primary way to quickly move things around on the screen and to access data (yes, go ahead and think of Minority Report, but not as gimmicky).
There will not be a successful cutoff where a manufacturer can convince people to stop using one way of interacting with their systems and adapt a new way "cold-turkey".</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697680</id>
	<title>Re:Form factor</title>
	<author>wsuschmitt</author>
	<datestamp>1262978640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think part of the reason why tablets have failed in the past is because the developers haven't made tablets more 'data appropriate'.  They make the tablets in such a way as to display/use data in laptop form.  That is, the nearly full ability to manage information (cut, paste, copy, image manipulation, database queries, etc.), but in a form factor that should be attached to a laptop, not a tablet.  <br> <br>

The smartphones of today are displaying 'data appropriate' information in a form factor designed for a ~3" screen; that is why they succeed.  Typing out a thesis on an iPhone isn't 'data appropriate', but viewing a PDF of a thesis is more 'data appropriate' for the smartphone form factor.  I'm hoping Apple will develop a UI that will allow the tablet to be displaying/manipulating data appropriate for its size.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think part of the reason why tablets have failed in the past is because the developers have n't made tablets more 'data appropriate' .
They make the tablets in such a way as to display/use data in laptop form .
That is , the nearly full ability to manage information ( cut , paste , copy , image manipulation , database queries , etc .
) , but in a form factor that should be attached to a laptop , not a tablet .
The smartphones of today are displaying 'data appropriate ' information in a form factor designed for a ~ 3 " screen ; that is why they succeed .
Typing out a thesis on an iPhone is n't 'data appropriate ' , but viewing a PDF of a thesis is more 'data appropriate ' for the smartphone form factor .
I 'm hoping Apple will develop a UI that will allow the tablet to be displaying/manipulating data appropriate for its size .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think part of the reason why tablets have failed in the past is because the developers haven't made tablets more 'data appropriate'.
They make the tablets in such a way as to display/use data in laptop form.
That is, the nearly full ability to manage information (cut, paste, copy, image manipulation, database queries, etc.
), but in a form factor that should be attached to a laptop, not a tablet.
The smartphones of today are displaying 'data appropriate' information in a form factor designed for a ~3" screen; that is why they succeed.
Typing out a thesis on an iPhone isn't 'data appropriate', but viewing a PDF of a thesis is more 'data appropriate' for the smartphone form factor.
I'm hoping Apple will develop a UI that will allow the tablet to be displaying/manipulating data appropriate for its size.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30702902</id>
	<title>Did you read the article?</title>
	<author>weston</author>
	<datestamp>1262959020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The really funny thing to me is that they act like this tablet is something new and amazing.</i></p><p>You didn't read the article, did you? The author demonstrates a familiarity with at least some past tablet efforts, and in fact references an article on recent Windows efforts at the end.</p><p>Heck, it looks like you didn't read the summary, where it's noted tablets already exist and what the author speculates Apple might do to improve them.</p><p><i>"technology" journalists that know little about journalism, less about technology</i></p><p>The technology journalist who wrote this article appears to both know more and to have thought more closely about tablets than you do...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The really funny thing to me is that they act like this tablet is something new and amazing.You did n't read the article , did you ?
The author demonstrates a familiarity with at least some past tablet efforts , and in fact references an article on recent Windows efforts at the end.Heck , it looks like you did n't read the summary , where it 's noted tablets already exist and what the author speculates Apple might do to improve them .
" technology " journalists that know little about journalism , less about technologyThe technology journalist who wrote this article appears to both know more and to have thought more closely about tablets than you do.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The really funny thing to me is that they act like this tablet is something new and amazing.You didn't read the article, did you?
The author demonstrates a familiarity with at least some past tablet efforts, and in fact references an article on recent Windows efforts at the end.Heck, it looks like you didn't read the summary, where it's noted tablets already exist and what the author speculates Apple might do to improve them.
"technology" journalists that know little about journalism, less about technologyThe technology journalist who wrote this article appears to both know more and to have thought more closely about tablets than you do...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30699430</id>
	<title>Everyone?</title>
	<author>roc97007</author>
	<datestamp>1262942820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
My first response was "Everyone, really?  <i>I</i> don't have high, medium, or low hopes.  I don't need another expensive, stylish fadgadget.  Really.
</p><p>
But reading TFA got me thinking... previous tablet offerings have kinda sucked.  What I really need is something with netbook capabilities at a netbook price but in tablet form, and I haven't seen anything yet that wasn't half-assed or too expensive or both.
</p><p>
When Apple comes out with a tablet, regardless of what it's like or how much it costs, there will be huge numbers of Apple fanbois lining up overnight to acquire one, which should have the effect of finally waking up interest from other manufacturers, which leads to the possibility that one of them will produce something actually useful at a reasonable price.  So it's all good.  Go, Apple.  Blaze the trail so others can pave it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My first response was " Everyone , really ?
I do n't have high , medium , or low hopes .
I do n't need another expensive , stylish fadgadget .
Really . But reading TFA got me thinking... previous tablet offerings have kinda sucked .
What I really need is something with netbook capabilities at a netbook price but in tablet form , and I have n't seen anything yet that was n't half-assed or too expensive or both .
When Apple comes out with a tablet , regardless of what it 's like or how much it costs , there will be huge numbers of Apple fanbois lining up overnight to acquire one , which should have the effect of finally waking up interest from other manufacturers , which leads to the possibility that one of them will produce something actually useful at a reasonable price .
So it 's all good .
Go , Apple .
Blaze the trail so others can pave it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
My first response was "Everyone, really?
I don't have high, medium, or low hopes.
I don't need another expensive, stylish fadgadget.
Really.

But reading TFA got me thinking... previous tablet offerings have kinda sucked.
What I really need is something with netbook capabilities at a netbook price but in tablet form, and I haven't seen anything yet that wasn't half-assed or too expensive or both.
When Apple comes out with a tablet, regardless of what it's like or how much it costs, there will be huge numbers of Apple fanbois lining up overnight to acquire one, which should have the effect of finally waking up interest from other manufacturers, which leads to the possibility that one of them will produce something actually useful at a reasonable price.
So it's all good.
Go, Apple.
Blaze the trail so others can pave it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696320</id>
	<title>Re:More like a tricorder?</title>
	<author>bugs2squash</author>
	<datestamp>1262973180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>if it's anything like the original <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tricorder" title="wikipedia.org">tricorder</a> [wikipedia.org] it looks like it will weigh 40 pounds and have a 4" screen and no usb ports. Now if apple can come up with one of those medical scanner thingies instead - that would be a great deal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>if it 's anything like the original tricorder [ wikipedia.org ] it looks like it will weigh 40 pounds and have a 4 " screen and no usb ports .
Now if apple can come up with one of those medical scanner thingies instead - that would be a great deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if it's anything like the original tricorder [wikipedia.org] it looks like it will weigh 40 pounds and have a 4" screen and no usb ports.
Now if apple can come up with one of those medical scanner thingies instead - that would be a great deal.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696744</id>
	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1262974920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Based on my experience most graphic artisit use a Mac.</p><p>granted my experience is includes only a 100 or so graphic artists, bit all of them use a Mac.</p><p>"That people who engage in fantasy, and who have a preference for style over substance prefer Apple products?"</p><p>Why do you correlate that to graphic artists?</p><p>If you prefer style, then you would prefer Apple products. They know style, know how to use it, and make it part of the culture.</p><p>And no, style is NOT a matter of opinion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Based on my experience most graphic artisit use a Mac.granted my experience is includes only a 100 or so graphic artists , bit all of them use a Mac .
" That people who engage in fantasy , and who have a preference for style over substance prefer Apple products ?
" Why do you correlate that to graphic artists ? If you prefer style , then you would prefer Apple products .
They know style , know how to use it , and make it part of the culture.And no , style is NOT a matter of opinion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Based on my experience most graphic artisit use a Mac.granted my experience is includes only a 100 or so graphic artists, bit all of them use a Mac.
"That people who engage in fantasy, and who have a preference for style over substance prefer Apple products?
"Why do you correlate that to graphic artists?If you prefer style, then you would prefer Apple products.
They know style, know how to use it, and make it part of the culture.And no, style is NOT a matter of opinion.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695356</id>
	<title>what's possible?  God help us.</title>
	<author>SuperBanana</author>
	<datestamp>1262969760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i> about tablet computers to date. What's going on? Xconomy's analysis makes three points. 1) Previous tablet makers have shown little imagination around UIs and how a touchscreen changes things. 2) With the iPhone, Apple has shown what's possible in this regard</i>

</p><p>Yeah.  As a 2-year+ iPhone owner:

</p><ul>
<li>An annoying keyboard (made slightly better by its activation in landscape mode now in more screens.)  A larger screen would mitigate this somewhat.</li>
<li>A physical UI, impossible to use with many (but not all) gloves on.  Not everyone lives in California, some of us live where it gets cold in the winter (less of an issue with a tablet, more of an issue with a phone.)</li>
<li>A multitouch UI which is great for playtoys, but useless for getting actual work done.  Example: A UI with a slow way of positioning the cursor in text and no cut/paste.  Ooops, I take that back.  A cut+paste that thinks cursor repositioning is an attempt to cut.  But hey, if you want to rotate or resize photos, that's a piece of cake.</li>
</ul><p>For all the uneducated jokes about 1-button mice, the touchscreen UI is even worse.  I like the trackpad swipe shortcuts on my MBP for home/end and back/forward, but I have yet to use a single one of the multitouch actions (the stretch/rotate ones, for example.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>about tablet computers to date .
What 's going on ?
Xconomy 's analysis makes three points .
1 ) Previous tablet makers have shown little imagination around UIs and how a touchscreen changes things .
2 ) With the iPhone , Apple has shown what 's possible in this regard Yeah .
As a 2-year + iPhone owner : An annoying keyboard ( made slightly better by its activation in landscape mode now in more screens .
) A larger screen would mitigate this somewhat .
A physical UI , impossible to use with many ( but not all ) gloves on .
Not everyone lives in California , some of us live where it gets cold in the winter ( less of an issue with a tablet , more of an issue with a phone .
) A multitouch UI which is great for playtoys , but useless for getting actual work done .
Example : A UI with a slow way of positioning the cursor in text and no cut/paste .
Ooops , I take that back .
A cut + paste that thinks cursor repositioning is an attempt to cut .
But hey , if you want to rotate or resize photos , that 's a piece of cake .
For all the uneducated jokes about 1-button mice , the touchscreen UI is even worse .
I like the trackpad swipe shortcuts on my MBP for home/end and back/forward , but I have yet to use a single one of the multitouch actions ( the stretch/rotate ones , for example .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  about tablet computers to date.
What's going on?
Xconomy's analysis makes three points.
1) Previous tablet makers have shown little imagination around UIs and how a touchscreen changes things.
2) With the iPhone, Apple has shown what's possible in this regard

Yeah.
As a 2-year+ iPhone owner:


An annoying keyboard (made slightly better by its activation in landscape mode now in more screens.
)  A larger screen would mitigate this somewhat.
A physical UI, impossible to use with many (but not all) gloves on.
Not everyone lives in California, some of us live where it gets cold in the winter (less of an issue with a tablet, more of an issue with a phone.
)
A multitouch UI which is great for playtoys, but useless for getting actual work done.
Example: A UI with a slow way of positioning the cursor in text and no cut/paste.
Ooops, I take that back.
A cut+paste that thinks cursor repositioning is an attempt to cut.
But hey, if you want to rotate or resize photos, that's a piece of cake.
For all the uneducated jokes about 1-button mice, the touchscreen UI is even worse.
I like the trackpad swipe shortcuts on my MBP for home/end and back/forward, but I have yet to use a single one of the multitouch actions (the stretch/rotate ones, for example.
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	<title>Re:LOL WUT?</title>
	<author>Tom</author>
	<datestamp>1262942280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it's working across a large set of diverse devices. ChromeOS will only make Apple's problem worse</p></div><p>Where? You must be talking about a different "Android" than the one I know as a smartphone OS. I've yet to see a smartphone, Android or not, that comes even <b>close</b> to the iconic value of the iPhone, and the App trap is still there. One of the main success points of the iPhone is the App Store, and anyone who doesn't recognize that has already lost all hopes to ever compete with it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>2) If the expected price of $1000 is to be believed, it'll be a real turn off for anyone looking for a low cost MID. You can buy two (or three) netbooks for that price.</p></div><p>People who want a notebook already have one. Apple has made it clear several times that they don't intend to compete in that area.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>3) Let's be clear, if it's not e-ink or similar, this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReader</p></div><p>Maybe that is, you know, just guessing here, because it's not an ebook reader device?</p></div>
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<tokenext>1 ) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it 's working across a large set of diverse devices .
ChromeOS will only make Apple 's problem worseWhere ?
You must be talking about a different " Android " than the one I know as a smartphone OS .
I 've yet to see a smartphone , Android or not , that comes even close to the iconic value of the iPhone , and the App trap is still there .
One of the main success points of the iPhone is the App Store , and anyone who does n't recognize that has already lost all hopes to ever compete with it.2 ) If the expected price of $ 1000 is to be believed , it 'll be a real turn off for anyone looking for a low cost MID .
You can buy two ( or three ) netbooks for that price.People who want a notebook already have one .
Apple has made it clear several times that they do n't intend to compete in that area.3 ) Let 's be clear , if it 's not e-ink or similar , this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReaderMaybe that is , you know , just guessing here , because it 's not an ebook reader device ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it's working across a large set of diverse devices.
ChromeOS will only make Apple's problem worseWhere?
You must be talking about a different "Android" than the one I know as a smartphone OS.
I've yet to see a smartphone, Android or not, that comes even close to the iconic value of the iPhone, and the App trap is still there.
One of the main success points of the iPhone is the App Store, and anyone who doesn't recognize that has already lost all hopes to ever compete with it.2) If the expected price of $1000 is to be believed, it'll be a real turn off for anyone looking for a low cost MID.
You can buy two (or three) netbooks for that price.People who want a notebook already have one.
Apple has made it clear several times that they don't intend to compete in that area.3) Let's be clear, if it's not e-ink or similar, this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReaderMaybe that is, you know, just guessing here, because it's not an ebook reader device?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696810</id>
	<title>Re:Oh, my poor rotator cuffs</title>
	<author>Gyorg\_Lavode</author>
	<datestamp>1262975100000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>actually, I've been wanting a touch screen to hang on my wall.  It'll act as a digital picture frame some of the time.  However, it'll be used to control music playing in the house, show videos, check weather, etc.  Honestly though, I wish they'd try and get them in the 400-600 range.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>actually , I 've been wanting a touch screen to hang on my wall .
It 'll act as a digital picture frame some of the time .
However , it 'll be used to control music playing in the house , show videos , check weather , etc .
Honestly though , I wish they 'd try and get them in the 400-600 range .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>actually, I've been wanting a touch screen to hang on my wall.
It'll act as a digital picture frame some of the time.
However, it'll be used to control music playing in the house, show videos, check weather, etc.
Honestly though, I wish they'd try and get them in the 400-600 range.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694972</id>
	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>Blue Stone</author>
	<datestamp>1262968380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;Mac is still, and long will be the favorite computer of most graphicians/artists.</p><p>What are you saying? That people who engage in fantasy, and who have a preference for style over substance prefer Apple products?</p><p>That seems a little infalmatory!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:O (I am a [graphic] artist).</p><p>Photoshop on Windows does everything that it does on a Mac, except that it generally requires less money to do so (on similar or better hardware). There must be a reason other than 'Photoshop'.</p><p>Maybe it's the social-psychological aspect that buying something made by Apple has: perceived enhanced status.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Mac is still , and long will be the favorite computer of most graphicians/artists.What are you saying ?
That people who engage in fantasy , and who have a preference for style over substance prefer Apple products ? That seems a little infalmatory !
: O ( I am a [ graphic ] artist ) .Photoshop on Windows does everything that it does on a Mac , except that it generally requires less money to do so ( on similar or better hardware ) .
There must be a reason other than 'Photoshop'.Maybe it 's the social-psychological aspect that buying something made by Apple has : perceived enhanced status .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;Mac is still, and long will be the favorite computer of most graphicians/artists.What are you saying?
That people who engage in fantasy, and who have a preference for style over substance prefer Apple products?That seems a little infalmatory!
:O (I am a [graphic] artist).Photoshop on Windows does everything that it does on a Mac, except that it generally requires less money to do so (on similar or better hardware).
There must be a reason other than 'Photoshop'.Maybe it's the social-psychological aspect that buying something made by Apple has: perceived enhanced status.</sentencetext>
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	<title>How does this go?</title>
	<author>bryan1945</author>
	<datestamp>1263218700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Small, no microwave, closed source Apple.  Lame"</p><p>Slightly adapted.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Small , no microwave , closed source Apple .
Lame " Slightly adapted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Small, no microwave, closed source Apple.
Lame"Slightly adapted.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30698458</id>
	<title>Re:what's possible? God help us.</title>
	<author>sean.peters</author>
	<datestamp>1262981940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>A physical UI, impossible to use with many (but not all) gloves on. Not everyone lives in California, some of us live where it gets cold in the winter (less of an issue with a tablet, more of an issue with a phone.)</p></div></blockquote><p>To be fair, this has never been much of an issue for me, even though it's plenty cold enough around here to wear gloves. I just don't need to stand around outside using the iPhone very often, and when I do, I can do without gloves for long enough to get the job done. But yeah, there are definitely some advantages to the stylus+physical keyboard arrangement (former Treo owner here).</p></div>
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<tokenext>A physical UI , impossible to use with many ( but not all ) gloves on .
Not everyone lives in California , some of us live where it gets cold in the winter ( less of an issue with a tablet , more of an issue with a phone .
) To be fair , this has never been much of an issue for me , even though it 's plenty cold enough around here to wear gloves .
I just do n't need to stand around outside using the iPhone very often , and when I do , I can do without gloves for long enough to get the job done .
But yeah , there are definitely some advantages to the stylus + physical keyboard arrangement ( former Treo owner here ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A physical UI, impossible to use with many (but not all) gloves on.
Not everyone lives in California, some of us live where it gets cold in the winter (less of an issue with a tablet, more of an issue with a phone.
)To be fair, this has never been much of an issue for me, even though it's plenty cold enough around here to wear gloves.
I just don't need to stand around outside using the iPhone very often, and when I do, I can do without gloves for long enough to get the job done.
But yeah, there are definitely some advantages to the stylus+physical keyboard arrangement (former Treo owner here).
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695790</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>dkleinsc</author>
	<datestamp>1262971200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obviously, "The deafening roar of anticipation" is so deafening we can't hear it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obviously , " The deafening roar of anticipation " is so deafening we ca n't hear it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obviously, "The deafening roar of anticipation" is so deafening we can't hear it!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694996</id>
	<title>Kay.</title>
	<author>stonecypher</author>
	<datestamp>1262968380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My iPhone just isn't that big a deal.  I don't understand why everyone thinks the iSlate will be.</p><p>I'm using a convertible tablet right now, and I've been using them for ten years.  Big whoop, Apple's making one.</p><p>Yawn.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My iPhone just is n't that big a deal .
I do n't understand why everyone thinks the iSlate will be.I 'm using a convertible tablet right now , and I 've been using them for ten years .
Big whoop , Apple 's making one.Yawn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My iPhone just isn't that big a deal.
I don't understand why everyone thinks the iSlate will be.I'm using a convertible tablet right now, and I've been using them for ten years.
Big whoop, Apple's making one.Yawn.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Rumours</title>
	<author>jocknerd</author>
	<datestamp>1262973600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Not the eurly 1980's.  1977 to be exact.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not the eurly 1980 's .
1977 to be exact .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not the eurly 1980's.
1977 to be exact.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:LOL WUT?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262976420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Where do you get the $1000 price point?  I have read $600<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.</p><p>WTF are you thinking about? The iSlate isn't meant to compete with e-readers, .  the iSlate is intended to compete with netbooks. An easy way to surf the net and check e-mail, and download cute apps like the iPhone has.  Man if it came with a cell plan I know I would be all over it.</p><p>However, if history is any indicator,  apple will release the iSlate but only good enough to make waves,  it will miss on many points so they can release an iSlate2 and 3 and 4.  That is just the way apple does things.  Not that I am a conspiracy theorist, but I am quite certain that apple comes up with a device that is perfect and what they intend, then sit back and chop it up into 4 versions.  Mark my words,  the iSlate will be loved, but it will have a couple major flaws like no SSD or GSM chip until version 2 and 3.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where do you get the $ 1000 price point ?
I have read $ 600 .WTF are you thinking about ?
The iSlate is n't meant to compete with e-readers , .
the iSlate is intended to compete with netbooks .
An easy way to surf the net and check e-mail , and download cute apps like the iPhone has .
Man if it came with a cell plan I know I would be all over it.However , if history is any indicator , apple will release the iSlate but only good enough to make waves , it will miss on many points so they can release an iSlate2 and 3 and 4 .
That is just the way apple does things .
Not that I am a conspiracy theorist , but I am quite certain that apple comes up with a device that is perfect and what they intend , then sit back and chop it up into 4 versions .
Mark my words , the iSlate will be loved , but it will have a couple major flaws like no SSD or GSM chip until version 2 and 3 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where do you get the $1000 price point?
I have read $600 .WTF are you thinking about?
The iSlate isn't meant to compete with e-readers, .
the iSlate is intended to compete with netbooks.
An easy way to surf the net and check e-mail, and download cute apps like the iPhone has.
Man if it came with a cell plan I know I would be all over it.However, if history is any indicator,  apple will release the iSlate but only good enough to make waves,  it will miss on many points so they can release an iSlate2 and 3 and 4.
That is just the way apple does things.
Not that I am a conspiracy theorist, but I am quite certain that apple comes up with a device that is perfect and what they intend, then sit back and chop it up into 4 versions.
Mark my words,  the iSlate will be loved, but it will have a couple major flaws like no SSD or GSM chip until version 2 and 3.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30699868</id>
	<title>It's called FUD</title>
	<author>daemonenwind</author>
	<datestamp>1262944500000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>If this was Microsoft trolling a Apple release, we'd call it FUD and wonder if the tablet would be made of folding chairs, and if you would throw it to reboot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If this was Microsoft trolling a Apple release , we 'd call it FUD and wonder if the tablet would be made of folding chairs , and if you would throw it to reboot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If this was Microsoft trolling a Apple release, we'd call it FUD and wonder if the tablet would be made of folding chairs, and if you would throw it to reboot.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695444</id>
	<title>Re:If it can't fit in my pocket...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262970000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>The iPhone can fit in my pocket, and I do read books on it.  It does not trivially support the PDFs that I collect and would like to read.  It is too small to read many things I would like.
<p>
The Kindle does not have WiFi, so I cannot read the content that I already subscribe to and have online access.  I do not want a Kindle subscription to these as I want the online access, not just Kindle access.
</p><p>
The Mac Air and various small notebooks have the added bulk of a keyboard and trackpad, as well as the clamshell design.  Presumably we can have something about few centimeters smaller in length and width, and at least a few millimeters thinner in a tablet.  I don't know if we can have this for less than $1000 dollars, especially since most of us would want 64GB built in, unless Apple breaks tradition and gives us a SD slot.
</p><p>
Why is there hope for an Apple Tablet?  Because it will likely be built for the end user as the customer, not a third party advertising or other revenue partner.  It is like the iPod.  Sure it was built for to generate revenue for iTMS, but that did not mean it was not very easy to rip albums and put our own music on it.  Even now iTunes can be set to rip to MP3 instead of ACC.  Movies are the same on the Touch and Phone.  I have hope that tablet/reader will be represent an equal balance between content specifically licensed for the reader and user shifted content.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPhone can fit in my pocket , and I do read books on it .
It does not trivially support the PDFs that I collect and would like to read .
It is too small to read many things I would like .
The Kindle does not have WiFi , so I can not read the content that I already subscribe to and have online access .
I do not want a Kindle subscription to these as I want the online access , not just Kindle access .
The Mac Air and various small notebooks have the added bulk of a keyboard and trackpad , as well as the clamshell design .
Presumably we can have something about few centimeters smaller in length and width , and at least a few millimeters thinner in a tablet .
I do n't know if we can have this for less than $ 1000 dollars , especially since most of us would want 64GB built in , unless Apple breaks tradition and gives us a SD slot .
Why is there hope for an Apple Tablet ?
Because it will likely be built for the end user as the customer , not a third party advertising or other revenue partner .
It is like the iPod .
Sure it was built for to generate revenue for iTMS , but that did not mean it was not very easy to rip albums and put our own music on it .
Even now iTunes can be set to rip to MP3 instead of ACC .
Movies are the same on the Touch and Phone .
I have hope that tablet/reader will be represent an equal balance between content specifically licensed for the reader and user shifted content .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPhone can fit in my pocket, and I do read books on it.
It does not trivially support the PDFs that I collect and would like to read.
It is too small to read many things I would like.
The Kindle does not have WiFi, so I cannot read the content that I already subscribe to and have online access.
I do not want a Kindle subscription to these as I want the online access, not just Kindle access.
The Mac Air and various small notebooks have the added bulk of a keyboard and trackpad, as well as the clamshell design.
Presumably we can have something about few centimeters smaller in length and width, and at least a few millimeters thinner in a tablet.
I don't know if we can have this for less than $1000 dollars, especially since most of us would want 64GB built in, unless Apple breaks tradition and gives us a SD slot.
Why is there hope for an Apple Tablet?
Because it will likely be built for the end user as the customer, not a third party advertising or other revenue partner.
It is like the iPod.
Sure it was built for to generate revenue for iTMS, but that did not mean it was not very easy to rip albums and put our own music on it.
Even now iTunes can be set to rip to MP3 instead of ACC.
Movies are the same on the Touch and Phone.
I have hope that tablet/reader will be represent an equal balance between content specifically licensed for the reader and user shifted content.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696924</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone causing low hopes</title>
	<author>c4t3y3</author>
	<datestamp>1262975640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The iPhone is why I have <em>low</em> hopes for an Apple tablet. Apple has demonstrated that they're willing to turn computing back 30 years and put stupid restrictions on their devices for the sake of control.</p></div><p>Control also means better quality, that's why App Store tops 3 billion downloads. Average Joe couldn't care less about <a href="http://boredzo.org/killed-iphone-apps/" title="boredzo.org" rel="nofollow">Apple rejecting around 30 applications</a> [boredzo.org] out of 100,000 or RMS-like comments about freedom. Compare that to 16,000 apps on the Android Market where bizarre UIs make it through and reviews are filled with spam.</p><p>It's not like the built a brilliant device and then created a bad App Store, quality control is part of the success.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPhone is why I have low hopes for an Apple tablet .
Apple has demonstrated that they 're willing to turn computing back 30 years and put stupid restrictions on their devices for the sake of control.Control also means better quality , that 's why App Store tops 3 billion downloads .
Average Joe could n't care less about Apple rejecting around 30 applications [ boredzo.org ] out of 100,000 or RMS-like comments about freedom .
Compare that to 16,000 apps on the Android Market where bizarre UIs make it through and reviews are filled with spam.It 's not like the built a brilliant device and then created a bad App Store , quality control is part of the success .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPhone is why I have low hopes for an Apple tablet.
Apple has demonstrated that they're willing to turn computing back 30 years and put stupid restrictions on their devices for the sake of control.Control also means better quality, that's why App Store tops 3 billion downloads.
Average Joe couldn't care less about Apple rejecting around 30 applications [boredzo.org] out of 100,000 or RMS-like comments about freedom.
Compare that to 16,000 apps on the Android Market where bizarre UIs make it through and reviews are filled with spam.It's not like the built a brilliant device and then created a bad App Store, quality control is part of the success.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695880</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262971500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;Apple enters the market with their own device, which has a bunch of features that may or may not have been seen in other devices, but on the whole is a very well integrated package. Somehow, they saw a way to make the product work.</p><p>This really shows a lack of knowledge of Apple's history.</p><p>1. The Newton.  Palm made this work. Not Apple.  Later on Apple copied the Treo format (phone + PDA) Palm made popular and merged it with a virtual keyboard.</p><p>2. Apple Pippin.  Failed game/multimedia console.  Nintendo64 and PS2 got it right.</p><p>3. Power Mac G4 Cube. Failed on the market. Infamous for cracking case.  Now, there's no shortage of small cube PCs.  The PC world got this right.</p><p>4. Apple QuickTake.  Failed digital camera.  Everyone gets this right.</p><p>5. Macintosh TV.  Failed TV/PC combo.  Now TV is just a PCI card away or done with steaming/downloading.</p><p>6. Apple's "Hockey Puck" USB Mouse.  No one gets this right because its such a bad idea.</p><p>7. eMate. Low cost Newton based PC.  OLPC and others get this right.</p><p>Apple tries a lot of things and they fail more often than they succeed. The idea that theyre the ones who can fix the tablet market is a bit of stretch. Heck, I like tablets, but I understand their limitations, especially in regards to keyboards/inputs.  Perhaps it will have something like the <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple\_introduces\_revolutionary" title="theonion.com">iwheel.</a> [theonion.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Apple enters the market with their own device , which has a bunch of features that may or may not have been seen in other devices , but on the whole is a very well integrated package .
Somehow , they saw a way to make the product work.This really shows a lack of knowledge of Apple 's history.1 .
The Newton .
Palm made this work .
Not Apple .
Later on Apple copied the Treo format ( phone + PDA ) Palm made popular and merged it with a virtual keyboard.2 .
Apple Pippin .
Failed game/multimedia console .
Nintendo64 and PS2 got it right.3 .
Power Mac G4 Cube .
Failed on the market .
Infamous for cracking case .
Now , there 's no shortage of small cube PCs .
The PC world got this right.4 .
Apple QuickTake .
Failed digital camera .
Everyone gets this right.5 .
Macintosh TV .
Failed TV/PC combo .
Now TV is just a PCI card away or done with steaming/downloading.6 .
Apple 's " Hockey Puck " USB Mouse .
No one gets this right because its such a bad idea.7 .
eMate. Low cost Newton based PC .
OLPC and others get this right.Apple tries a lot of things and they fail more often than they succeed .
The idea that theyre the ones who can fix the tablet market is a bit of stretch .
Heck , I like tablets , but I understand their limitations , especially in regards to keyboards/inputs .
Perhaps it will have something like the iwheel .
[ theonion.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;Apple enters the market with their own device, which has a bunch of features that may or may not have been seen in other devices, but on the whole is a very well integrated package.
Somehow, they saw a way to make the product work.This really shows a lack of knowledge of Apple's history.1.
The Newton.
Palm made this work.
Not Apple.
Later on Apple copied the Treo format (phone + PDA) Palm made popular and merged it with a virtual keyboard.2.
Apple Pippin.
Failed game/multimedia console.
Nintendo64 and PS2 got it right.3.
Power Mac G4 Cube.
Failed on the market.
Infamous for cracking case.
Now, there's no shortage of small cube PCs.
The PC world got this right.4.
Apple QuickTake.
Failed digital camera.
Everyone gets this right.5.
Macintosh TV.
Failed TV/PC combo.
Now TV is just a PCI card away or done with steaming/downloading.6.
Apple's "Hockey Puck" USB Mouse.
No one gets this right because its such a bad idea.7.
eMate. Low cost Newton based PC.
OLPC and others get this right.Apple tries a lot of things and they fail more often than they succeed.
The idea that theyre the ones who can fix the tablet market is a bit of stretch.
Heck, I like tablets, but I understand their limitations, especially in regards to keyboards/inputs.
Perhaps it will have something like the iwheel.
[theonion.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696524</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing Latent About It</title>
	<author>0xABADC0DA</author>
	<datestamp>1262974020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>this is \_EXACTLY\_ what I'm interested in seeing. While I would love a high end Mac laptop</p></div><p>And why can't you have both?  The only thing stopping a tablet from having a fast processor is heat and power, so just move that part out of the unit and send the display wirelessly.</p><p>What I'm predicting/hoping for is a 'giant iphone' with fast ARM processor (for power and weight) and iphone/ipod like apps... web browser, book reader, music, some light games, etc but on a display you can read and use.  This is lightweight, easy to carry, lasts for days, and works everywhere.</p><p>But then the killer feature is that it also VNCs your desktop over your home wifi or internet.  You buy the Mac mini for the fast processor and graphics, put it in the closet someplace, and just remote the display over wifi to the tablet.  Plug a USB keyboard/mouse into the tablet for those things that are much easier using a real keyboard.  Of course if you have a mac main computer this works really easily and works anywhere you can get a wifi signal thanks to some service Apple would provide.  But if you have Windows you can still make it work.  It would chunk up some over the internet at a starbucks, but that's why it would have the integrated safari, book reader, music, etc.</p></div>
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<tokenext>this is \ _EXACTLY \ _ what I 'm interested in seeing .
While I would love a high end Mac laptopAnd why ca n't you have both ?
The only thing stopping a tablet from having a fast processor is heat and power , so just move that part out of the unit and send the display wirelessly.What I 'm predicting/hoping for is a 'giant iphone ' with fast ARM processor ( for power and weight ) and iphone/ipod like apps... web browser , book reader , music , some light games , etc but on a display you can read and use .
This is lightweight , easy to carry , lasts for days , and works everywhere.But then the killer feature is that it also VNCs your desktop over your home wifi or internet .
You buy the Mac mini for the fast processor and graphics , put it in the closet someplace , and just remote the display over wifi to the tablet .
Plug a USB keyboard/mouse into the tablet for those things that are much easier using a real keyboard .
Of course if you have a mac main computer this works really easily and works anywhere you can get a wifi signal thanks to some service Apple would provide .
But if you have Windows you can still make it work .
It would chunk up some over the internet at a starbucks , but that 's why it would have the integrated safari , book reader , music , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this is \_EXACTLY\_ what I'm interested in seeing.
While I would love a high end Mac laptopAnd why can't you have both?
The only thing stopping a tablet from having a fast processor is heat and power, so just move that part out of the unit and send the display wirelessly.What I'm predicting/hoping for is a 'giant iphone' with fast ARM processor (for power and weight) and iphone/ipod like apps... web browser, book reader, music, some light games, etc but on a display you can read and use.
This is lightweight, easy to carry, lasts for days, and works everywhere.But then the killer feature is that it also VNCs your desktop over your home wifi or internet.
You buy the Mac mini for the fast processor and graphics, put it in the closet someplace, and just remote the display over wifi to the tablet.
Plug a USB keyboard/mouse into the tablet for those things that are much easier using a real keyboard.
Of course if you have a mac main computer this works really easily and works anywhere you can get a wifi signal thanks to some service Apple would provide.
But if you have Windows you can still make it work.
It would chunk up some over the internet at a starbucks, but that's why it would have the integrated safari, book reader, music, etc.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696002</id>
	<title>CES 2010</title>
	<author>Stregano</author>
	<datestamp>1262971920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Honestly, I am more excited about the HP and Lenovo tablet pc's that were shown at CES this year.
<br> <br>
Both of those look pretty sick, and the HP 1 in particular is pretty cool.  It works as a laptop, but then you can twist the screen to have the screen over the keyboard to make it s tablet pc (check google to see videos of it, there are a couple videos out there).
<br> <br>
I have no clue why people buy into the Apple hype every single time one of their products is on the horizon.  Seriously, there are other options besides buying into the Apple hype.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Honestly , I am more excited about the HP and Lenovo tablet pc 's that were shown at CES this year .
Both of those look pretty sick , and the HP 1 in particular is pretty cool .
It works as a laptop , but then you can twist the screen to have the screen over the keyboard to make it s tablet pc ( check google to see videos of it , there are a couple videos out there ) .
I have no clue why people buy into the Apple hype every single time one of their products is on the horizon .
Seriously , there are other options besides buying into the Apple hype .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Honestly, I am more excited about the HP and Lenovo tablet pc's that were shown at CES this year.
Both of those look pretty sick, and the HP 1 in particular is pretty cool.
It works as a laptop, but then you can twist the screen to have the screen over the keyboard to make it s tablet pc (check google to see videos of it, there are a couple videos out there).
I have no clue why people buy into the Apple hype every single time one of their products is on the horizon.
Seriously, there are other options besides buying into the Apple hype.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695136</id>
	<title>flash?</title>
	<author>bilbo909</author>
	<datestamp>1262968980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>unless they work out Flash for it and the iphone, it'll flop in my opinion.</htmltext>
<tokenext>unless they work out Flash for it and the iphone , it 'll flop in my opinion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>unless they work out Flash for it and the iphone, it'll flop in my opinion.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697144</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>ZipprHead</author>
	<datestamp>1262976540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You seem to me to be talking about it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You seem to me to be talking about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You seem to me to be talking about it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30698396</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262981700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>if you think that all graphic designers are suckers for the latest iTat then you deserve what you get - a professional circle around you that is made up of fools.</p><p>truthfully, you and your clueless colleagues should definitely be doing something that doesn't involve creative thinking... advertising perhaps?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>if you think that all graphic designers are suckers for the latest iTat then you deserve what you get - a professional circle around you that is made up of fools.truthfully , you and your clueless colleagues should definitely be doing something that does n't involve creative thinking... advertising perhaps ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if you think that all graphic designers are suckers for the latest iTat then you deserve what you get - a professional circle around you that is made up of fools.truthfully, you and your clueless colleagues should definitely be doing something that doesn't involve creative thinking... advertising perhaps?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696602</id>
	<title>Where have I heard this before...</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1262974320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>*wavy screen*</p><p>1) Apple can't beat nomad</p><p>2) iPod is too expensive</p><p>3) If it doesn't play open format, it's in no way competing with nomad/creative.</p><p>*wavy screen*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* wavy screen * 1 ) Apple ca n't beat nomad2 ) iPod is too expensive3 ) If it does n't play open format , it 's in no way competing with nomad/creative .
* wavy screen *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*wavy screen*1) Apple can't beat nomad2) iPod is too expensive3) If it doesn't play open format, it's in no way competing with nomad/creative.
*wavy screen*</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30700592</id>
	<title>Re:LOL WUT?</title>
	<author>93 Escort Wagon</author>
	<datestamp>1262947800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it's working across a large set of diverse devices.  ChromeOS will only make Apple's problem worse</p></div><p>In other words - 2010 is the year of the Linux desktop?</p><p>That sounds eerily familiar...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it 's working across a large set of diverse devices .
ChromeOS will only make Apple 's problem worseIn other words - 2010 is the year of the Linux desktop ? That sounds eerily familiar.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it's working across a large set of diverse devices.
ChromeOS will only make Apple's problem worseIn other words - 2010 is the year of the Linux desktop?That sounds eerily familiar...
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30698238</id>
	<title>Hey!  They Were First!  Remember Newton?</title>
	<author>AmazingChicken</author>
	<datestamp>1262980980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>same goes for Apple's tablet</p></div><p>Oh yeah I forgot.  The batteries must have died again.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>same goes for Apple 's tabletOh yeah I forgot .
The batteries must have died again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>same goes for Apple's tabletOh yeah I forgot.
The batteries must have died again.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695270</id>
	<title>Everyone has high hopes?</title>
	<author>Mister Whirly</author>
	<datestamp>1262969460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>iDon't</htmltext>
<tokenext>iDo n't</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iDon't</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695570</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone causing low hopes</title>
	<author>pohl</author>
	<datestamp>1262970480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Every cell phone I've ever had has been burdened with stupid restrictions, so Apple isn't really innovating in the Restrictions Department - they've just wrested some of the ability to restrict from the hands of the carriers.   The last phone I had was a Motorola e815, which had the ability to do Bluetooth OBEX built into it, but Alltel decided to configure it off so that I couldn't load my own ringtones easily and had to buy theirs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Every cell phone I 've ever had has been burdened with stupid restrictions , so Apple is n't really innovating in the Restrictions Department - they 've just wrested some of the ability to restrict from the hands of the carriers .
The last phone I had was a Motorola e815 , which had the ability to do Bluetooth OBEX built into it , but Alltel decided to configure it off so that I could n't load my own ringtones easily and had to buy theirs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every cell phone I've ever had has been burdened with stupid restrictions, so Apple isn't really innovating in the Restrictions Department - they've just wrested some of the ability to restrict from the hands of the carriers.
The last phone I had was a Motorola e815, which had the ability to do Bluetooth OBEX built into it, but Alltel decided to configure it off so that I couldn't load my own ringtones easily and had to buy theirs.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695238</id>
	<title>Re:LOL WUT?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262969340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it's working across a large set of diverse devices.</p> </div><p>Yeah, we've heard this mantra for over a year now and yet Android still lacks in market share and it has a far higher percentage of crap apps than Apple's store.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>ChromeOS will only make Apple's problem worse</p></div><p>Why?  ChromeOS is a joke.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it 's working across a large set of diverse devices .
Yeah , we 've heard this mantra for over a year now and yet Android still lacks in market share and it has a far higher percentage of crap apps than Apple 's store.ChromeOS will only make Apple 's problem worseWhy ?
ChromeOS is a joke .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it's working across a large set of diverse devices.
Yeah, we've heard this mantra for over a year now and yet Android still lacks in market share and it has a far higher percentage of crap apps than Apple's store.ChromeOS will only make Apple's problem worseWhy?
ChromeOS is a joke.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694934</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262968260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right on! My inbox is always flooded with breathless marketing hype about 'the buzz' or 'anticipation' for some new piece of techno-crud. The only folks who really get the hots over this stuff are the sales and marketing types. Everyone else thinks 'oh no, not again' as the new stuff will just add more complexity and fragility to the existing support nightmare. Be nice if they fixed their existing problems and made things more stable and reliable -- not just finding new ways to spell 'BROKEN'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right on !
My inbox is always flooded with breathless marketing hype about 'the buzz ' or 'anticipation ' for some new piece of techno-crud .
The only folks who really get the hots over this stuff are the sales and marketing types .
Everyone else thinks 'oh no , not again ' as the new stuff will just add more complexity and fragility to the existing support nightmare .
Be nice if they fixed their existing problems and made things more stable and reliable -- not just finding new ways to spell 'BROKEN' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right on!
My inbox is always flooded with breathless marketing hype about 'the buzz' or 'anticipation' for some new piece of techno-crud.
The only folks who really get the hots over this stuff are the sales and marketing types.
Everyone else thinks 'oh no, not again' as the new stuff will just add more complexity and fragility to the existing support nightmare.
Be nice if they fixed their existing problems and made things more stable and reliable -- not just finding new ways to spell 'BROKEN'.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696996</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing Latent About It</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262975940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>MacBook Net?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>MacBook Net ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MacBook Net?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696954</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>macosxaddict</author>
	<datestamp>1262975760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I am in a CS graduate program, and <b>nobody</b> in our department is talking about this -- not even the dozen or so Apple fanboys.</p></div><p>You just did!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am in a CS graduate program , and nobody in our department is talking about this -- not even the dozen or so Apple fanboys.You just did !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am in a CS graduate program, and nobody in our department is talking about this -- not even the dozen or so Apple fanboys.You just did!
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695686</id>
	<title>Axim anyone?</title>
	<author>cynvision</author>
	<datestamp>1262970840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dell had a foundation for building products in this size and got run over by the smartphones and "one device for all" movement. So if there's a tablet movement it will be with little satellite devices via bluetooth to make it a bag phone that happens to be a computer. Only take it out when you need to, otherwise, voice dial with the earpiece. But only within 30 feet of your briefcase. What goes away comes back later...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dell had a foundation for building products in this size and got run over by the smartphones and " one device for all " movement .
So if there 's a tablet movement it will be with little satellite devices via bluetooth to make it a bag phone that happens to be a computer .
Only take it out when you need to , otherwise , voice dial with the earpiece .
But only within 30 feet of your briefcase .
What goes away comes back later.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dell had a foundation for building products in this size and got run over by the smartphones and "one device for all" movement.
So if there's a tablet movement it will be with little satellite devices via bluetooth to make it a bag phone that happens to be a computer.
Only take it out when you need to, otherwise, voice dial with the earpiece.
But only within 30 feet of your briefcase.
What goes away comes back later...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694958</id>
	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262968320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember when I studied graphic design at college... the main point the tutor made was "never do anything in front of the client, this devalues your work".</p><p>Basically if you could do something that "would do" for the client in front of them, then they wouldn't see the value in paying you 10x the amount to do the same thing but in "higher quality."</p><p>I never went into the industry but I still understand what he meant, but I guess it could be used for mock ups, and for quick changes (as you said); just not done in front of paying clients<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Of course my tutor could of been talking crap, he seemed to do that alot as well (And hated me for understanding computers better than him, as he had a mac loving complex.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember when I studied graphic design at college... the main point the tutor made was " never do anything in front of the client , this devalues your work " .Basically if you could do something that " would do " for the client in front of them , then they would n't see the value in paying you 10x the amount to do the same thing but in " higher quality .
" I never went into the industry but I still understand what he meant , but I guess it could be used for mock ups , and for quick changes ( as you said ) ; just not done in front of paying clients : ) Of course my tutor could of been talking crap , he seemed to do that alot as well ( And hated me for understanding computers better than him , as he had a mac loving complex .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember when I studied graphic design at college... the main point the tutor made was "never do anything in front of the client, this devalues your work".Basically if you could do something that "would do" for the client in front of them, then they wouldn't see the value in paying you 10x the amount to do the same thing but in "higher quality.
"I never went into the industry but I still understand what he meant, but I guess it could be used for mock ups, and for quick changes (as you said); just not done in front of paying clients :)Of course my tutor could of been talking crap, he seemed to do that alot as well (And hated me for understanding computers better than him, as he had a mac loving complex.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30705054</id>
	<title>Re:iSlate? FEH... iPad</title>
	<author>vaporland</author>
	<datestamp>1262976960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>it's going to be called an iPad - I'll wager a Mac Pro tower that iPad will be at least one of the names... there's at least two devices.</htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's going to be called an iPad - I 'll wager a Mac Pro tower that iPad will be at least one of the names... there 's at least two devices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's going to be called an iPad - I'll wager a Mac Pro tower that iPad will be at least one of the names... there's at least two devices.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Even the Competitors Have High Hopes</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1262967660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>If the netbook and smartphone markets are any indication of the potential number of sales that exist out there, then I would wager even competitors hope Apple's tablet takes off.  Because it's been shown time and time again that once Apple establishes via ads and quality that it's cool to own an iPod Nano or an iPhone or i-Whatever then the competitors step in and scoop up the very large market of people that want a product <i>like</i> it for less.  They're not even knockoffs per se but I would bet that on the whole MP3 player manufacturers like iRiver enjoyed unseen benefits from Apple popularizing the MP3 player.  The same might be said of the many cheaper smartphones that followed the iPhone--they were there but not 'accepted' as a necessary commodity for a consumer.  <br> <br>

I don't mean to sound like a fanboy but the competitors that have been waiting to market tablet PCs now have the luxury of waiting for Apple to either make a brilliant move or blunder (an expensive wager) and then step in to enjoy the market that Apple works to establish with tablet PCs.  The great part is that there are so many consumers that will gladly take a second rate device for cheaper money and in their mind think that they not only got a deal but now are keeping up with Joneses who all have iSlates or iTablets or whatever the devil Apple may hold.  I actually think it benefits both Microsoft and Apple for them to release their products in tandem.  It adds to the rivalry and people love that.  Not to mention, they're certainly going to be compatible with only their respective products so a long time Mac user isn't going to be stolen nor will a longtime Windows user go over to the iSlate.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the netbook and smartphone markets are any indication of the potential number of sales that exist out there , then I would wager even competitors hope Apple 's tablet takes off .
Because it 's been shown time and time again that once Apple establishes via ads and quality that it 's cool to own an iPod Nano or an iPhone or i-Whatever then the competitors step in and scoop up the very large market of people that want a product like it for less .
They 're not even knockoffs per se but I would bet that on the whole MP3 player manufacturers like iRiver enjoyed unseen benefits from Apple popularizing the MP3 player .
The same might be said of the many cheaper smartphones that followed the iPhone--they were there but not 'accepted ' as a necessary commodity for a consumer .
I do n't mean to sound like a fanboy but the competitors that have been waiting to market tablet PCs now have the luxury of waiting for Apple to either make a brilliant move or blunder ( an expensive wager ) and then step in to enjoy the market that Apple works to establish with tablet PCs .
The great part is that there are so many consumers that will gladly take a second rate device for cheaper money and in their mind think that they not only got a deal but now are keeping up with Joneses who all have iSlates or iTablets or whatever the devil Apple may hold .
I actually think it benefits both Microsoft and Apple for them to release their products in tandem .
It adds to the rivalry and people love that .
Not to mention , they 're certainly going to be compatible with only their respective products so a long time Mac user is n't going to be stolen nor will a longtime Windows user go over to the iSlate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the netbook and smartphone markets are any indication of the potential number of sales that exist out there, then I would wager even competitors hope Apple's tablet takes off.
Because it's been shown time and time again that once Apple establishes via ads and quality that it's cool to own an iPod Nano or an iPhone or i-Whatever then the competitors step in and scoop up the very large market of people that want a product like it for less.
They're not even knockoffs per se but I would bet that on the whole MP3 player manufacturers like iRiver enjoyed unseen benefits from Apple popularizing the MP3 player.
The same might be said of the many cheaper smartphones that followed the iPhone--they were there but not 'accepted' as a necessary commodity for a consumer.
I don't mean to sound like a fanboy but the competitors that have been waiting to market tablet PCs now have the luxury of waiting for Apple to either make a brilliant move or blunder (an expensive wager) and then step in to enjoy the market that Apple works to establish with tablet PCs.
The great part is that there are so many consumers that will gladly take a second rate device for cheaper money and in their mind think that they not only got a deal but now are keeping up with Joneses who all have iSlates or iTablets or whatever the devil Apple may hold.
I actually think it benefits both Microsoft and Apple for them to release their products in tandem.
It adds to the rivalry and people love that.
Not to mention, they're certainly going to be compatible with only their respective products so a long time Mac user isn't going to be stolen nor will a longtime Windows user go over to the iSlate.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695394</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing Latent About It</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262969880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>...but I suspect it'll be another damn cool piece of tech that I try to find a justification to buy.</p></div><p>"Another damn cool piece of tech?"<br>You talk about it as if it were an object....</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...but I suspect it 'll be another damn cool piece of tech that I try to find a justification to buy .
" Another damn cool piece of tech ?
" You talk about it as if it were an object... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but I suspect it'll be another damn cool piece of tech that I try to find a justification to buy.
"Another damn cool piece of tech?
"You talk about it as if it were an object....
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697716</id>
	<title>Re:Lenovo Thinkpad X41/X60/X61 Tablet</title>
	<author>heteromonomer</author>
	<datestamp>1262978760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mod parent up. I always wanted a tablet. I waited for years and bought an X61 tablet. I think it is the best out there right now, but it sucks. It really is not usable. Windows 7 tablet features suck, and Windows 7 is the best tablet supporting OS out there. So I am waiting for an apple tablet after having never owned a Mac computer.

Why do I want a tablet? I take notes. I write my ideas. I draw my ideas (am a scientist, not an artist). I do calculations. I do design. Yes, I type. But writing is the most liberating thing for my creativity which doesn't always involve writing. Even for writing, I write down my ideas randomly and connect them by drawing arrows and finally make my text draft.

The best tablets currently on the market suck so bad, that most people don't want a tablet. I cheer for apple. I think they will make a usable tablet and tap into the market of people like (who I hope are in good numbers).

     Mod parent up. I always wanted a tablet. I waited for years and bought an X61 tablet. I think it is the best out there right now, but it sucks. It really is not usable. Windows 7 tablet features suck, and Windows 7 is the best tablet supporting OS out there. So I am waiting for an apple tablet after having never owned a Mac computer.
<br> <br>
Why do I want a tablet? I take notes. I write my ideas. I draw my ideas (am a scientist, not an artist). I do calculations. I do design. Yes, I type. But writing is the most liberating thing for my creativity which doesn't always involve writing. Even for writing, I write down my ideas randomly and connect them by drawing arrows and finally make my text draft.
<br> <br>
The best tablets currently on the market suck so bad, that most people don't want a tablet. I cheer for apple. I think they will make a usable tablet and tap into the market of people like (who I hope are in good numbers).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mod parent up .
I always wanted a tablet .
I waited for years and bought an X61 tablet .
I think it is the best out there right now , but it sucks .
It really is not usable .
Windows 7 tablet features suck , and Windows 7 is the best tablet supporting OS out there .
So I am waiting for an apple tablet after having never owned a Mac computer .
Why do I want a tablet ?
I take notes .
I write my ideas .
I draw my ideas ( am a scientist , not an artist ) .
I do calculations .
I do design .
Yes , I type .
But writing is the most liberating thing for my creativity which does n't always involve writing .
Even for writing , I write down my ideas randomly and connect them by drawing arrows and finally make my text draft .
The best tablets currently on the market suck so bad , that most people do n't want a tablet .
I cheer for apple .
I think they will make a usable tablet and tap into the market of people like ( who I hope are in good numbers ) .
Mod parent up .
I always wanted a tablet .
I waited for years and bought an X61 tablet .
I think it is the best out there right now , but it sucks .
It really is not usable .
Windows 7 tablet features suck , and Windows 7 is the best tablet supporting OS out there .
So I am waiting for an apple tablet after having never owned a Mac computer .
Why do I want a tablet ?
I take notes .
I write my ideas .
I draw my ideas ( am a scientist , not an artist ) .
I do calculations .
I do design .
Yes , I type .
But writing is the most liberating thing for my creativity which does n't always involve writing .
Even for writing , I write down my ideas randomly and connect them by drawing arrows and finally make my text draft .
The best tablets currently on the market suck so bad , that most people do n't want a tablet .
I cheer for apple .
I think they will make a usable tablet and tap into the market of people like ( who I hope are in good numbers ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mod parent up.
I always wanted a tablet.
I waited for years and bought an X61 tablet.
I think it is the best out there right now, but it sucks.
It really is not usable.
Windows 7 tablet features suck, and Windows 7 is the best tablet supporting OS out there.
So I am waiting for an apple tablet after having never owned a Mac computer.
Why do I want a tablet?
I take notes.
I write my ideas.
I draw my ideas (am a scientist, not an artist).
I do calculations.
I do design.
Yes, I type.
But writing is the most liberating thing for my creativity which doesn't always involve writing.
Even for writing, I write down my ideas randomly and connect them by drawing arrows and finally make my text draft.
The best tablets currently on the market suck so bad, that most people don't want a tablet.
I cheer for apple.
I think they will make a usable tablet and tap into the market of people like (who I hope are in good numbers).
Mod parent up.
I always wanted a tablet.
I waited for years and bought an X61 tablet.
I think it is the best out there right now, but it sucks.
It really is not usable.
Windows 7 tablet features suck, and Windows 7 is the best tablet supporting OS out there.
So I am waiting for an apple tablet after having never owned a Mac computer.
Why do I want a tablet?
I take notes.
I write my ideas.
I draw my ideas (am a scientist, not an artist).
I do calculations.
I do design.
Yes, I type.
But writing is the most liberating thing for my creativity which doesn't always involve writing.
Even for writing, I write down my ideas randomly and connect them by drawing arrows and finally make my text draft.
The best tablets currently on the market suck so bad, that most people don't want a tablet.
I cheer for apple.
I think they will make a usable tablet and tap into the market of people like (who I hope are in good numbers).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696312</id>
	<title>thoughts...</title>
	<author>hitmark</author>
	<datestamp>1262973180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i suspect apple may indeed have a better chance here then previous, and upcoming, windows based products, because what microsoft did was basically bolt on stylus/finger input on top of the existing windows ui.</p><p>sure, that allows them to leverage the existing software ecosystem, but its a ecosystem thats been focused on a mouse pointer that can hover over a area of the screen without there being a interaction unless a physical button is pushed.</p><p>so if apple comes up with a "islate" it will be based on the iphone ui, not the osx ui, and as such will have limited software at first (tho i suspect they will have a quick route to port iphone apps using the new screen size and some new api).</p><p>what i find interesting right now is not the win7 based products showed of at ces, but the android based smartbooks and other related products. See the HP demo for instance, where they have reworked the keyboard and trackpad to fit android use. The problem for android is the same as for iphone, where a larger screen may require a reworking of the UI of a app. This unless it was made using vector graphics in the first place (or where its mostly text, so it can be reflowed to fit). Still, android is the newcomer, and have less inertia built up (altho apple have a history of giving the third party developers the proverbial middle finger if needed, unlike for example microsoft, whos old dos bugs still exist in some form to attempt to keep old software still working) and so can get interested parties to adapt to new screen sizes quickly (they introduced support for variable screen sizes in 1.6, iirc).</p><p>and so far i would say that the fragmentation of android have been minimal, as the interfaces shown are more or less reskins of the android interface, with some extra widgets and similar added. And android was built for this level of modification. The one place where one may notice a issue is with apps using the NDK to get extra speed, rather then working thru the java vm.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i suspect apple may indeed have a better chance here then previous , and upcoming , windows based products , because what microsoft did was basically bolt on stylus/finger input on top of the existing windows ui.sure , that allows them to leverage the existing software ecosystem , but its a ecosystem thats been focused on a mouse pointer that can hover over a area of the screen without there being a interaction unless a physical button is pushed.so if apple comes up with a " islate " it will be based on the iphone ui , not the osx ui , and as such will have limited software at first ( tho i suspect they will have a quick route to port iphone apps using the new screen size and some new api ) .what i find interesting right now is not the win7 based products showed of at ces , but the android based smartbooks and other related products .
See the HP demo for instance , where they have reworked the keyboard and trackpad to fit android use .
The problem for android is the same as for iphone , where a larger screen may require a reworking of the UI of a app .
This unless it was made using vector graphics in the first place ( or where its mostly text , so it can be reflowed to fit ) .
Still , android is the newcomer , and have less inertia built up ( altho apple have a history of giving the third party developers the proverbial middle finger if needed , unlike for example microsoft , whos old dos bugs still exist in some form to attempt to keep old software still working ) and so can get interested parties to adapt to new screen sizes quickly ( they introduced support for variable screen sizes in 1.6 , iirc ) .and so far i would say that the fragmentation of android have been minimal , as the interfaces shown are more or less reskins of the android interface , with some extra widgets and similar added .
And android was built for this level of modification .
The one place where one may notice a issue is with apps using the NDK to get extra speed , rather then working thru the java vm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i suspect apple may indeed have a better chance here then previous, and upcoming, windows based products, because what microsoft did was basically bolt on stylus/finger input on top of the existing windows ui.sure, that allows them to leverage the existing software ecosystem, but its a ecosystem thats been focused on a mouse pointer that can hover over a area of the screen without there being a interaction unless a physical button is pushed.so if apple comes up with a "islate" it will be based on the iphone ui, not the osx ui, and as such will have limited software at first (tho i suspect they will have a quick route to port iphone apps using the new screen size and some new api).what i find interesting right now is not the win7 based products showed of at ces, but the android based smartbooks and other related products.
See the HP demo for instance, where they have reworked the keyboard and trackpad to fit android use.
The problem for android is the same as for iphone, where a larger screen may require a reworking of the UI of a app.
This unless it was made using vector graphics in the first place (or where its mostly text, so it can be reflowed to fit).
Still, android is the newcomer, and have less inertia built up (altho apple have a history of giving the third party developers the proverbial middle finger if needed, unlike for example microsoft, whos old dos bugs still exist in some form to attempt to keep old software still working) and so can get interested parties to adapt to new screen sizes quickly (they introduced support for variable screen sizes in 1.6, iirc).and so far i would say that the fragmentation of android have been minimal, as the interfaces shown are more or less reskins of the android interface, with some extra widgets and similar added.
And android was built for this level of modification.
The one place where one may notice a issue is with apps using the NDK to get extra speed, rather then working thru the java vm.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696404</id>
	<title>Re:If it can't fit in my pocket...</title>
	<author>Arthur Grumbine</author>
	<datestamp>1262973540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Voice operated"? "Wearable"? You're still in the stone age, buddy.<br> <br>
Give <i>me</i> an implanted (without surgery, though - like some kind of pill), thought-operated organic quantum computer that automatically grows to match the absolute latest/best connection/processing/storage/display technology. Also, it can't be more than $199.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Voice operated " ?
" Wearable " ? You 're still in the stone age , buddy .
Give me an implanted ( without surgery , though - like some kind of pill ) , thought-operated organic quantum computer that automatically grows to match the absolute latest/best connection/processing/storage/display technology .
Also , it ca n't be more than $ 199 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Voice operated"?
"Wearable"? You're still in the stone age, buddy.
Give me an implanted (without surgery, though - like some kind of pill), thought-operated organic quantum computer that automatically grows to match the absolute latest/best connection/processing/storage/display technology.
Also, it can't be more than $199.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695084</id>
	<title>Re:LOL WUT?</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1262968740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>3) Let's be clear, if it's not e-ink or similar, this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReader</p></div><p>Rumor is they might be using something like this technology: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ZErQ5Kl6w" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ZErQ5Kl6w</a> [youtube.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>3 ) Let 's be clear , if it 's not e-ink or similar , this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReaderRumor is they might be using something like this technology : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = R7ZErQ5Kl6w [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>3) Let's be clear, if it's not e-ink or similar, this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReaderRumor is they might be using something like this technology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ZErQ5Kl6w [youtube.com]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30700306</id>
	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>mrraven</author>
	<datestamp>1262946300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would have told the clueless PHP then do it yourself, oh they didn't teach you that at MBA school, did they?
<br> <br>
<a href="http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/deadkennedys/terminalpreppie.html" title="azlyrics.com">http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/deadkennedys/terminalpreppie.html</a> [azlyrics.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would have told the clueless PHP then do it yourself , oh they did n't teach you that at MBA school , did they ?
http : //www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/deadkennedys/terminalpreppie.html [ azlyrics.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would have told the clueless PHP then do it yourself, oh they didn't teach you that at MBA school, did they?
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/deadkennedys/terminalpreppie.html [azlyrics.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695496</id>
	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262970180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>One Word. Cintiq from Wacom.</p></div><p>Uhh, 1 word?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>One Word .
Cintiq from Wacom.Uhh , 1 word ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One Word.
Cintiq from Wacom.Uhh, 1 word?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30699758</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone causing low hopes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262944140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This comparison is not doesn't feel entirely accurate. Just think of the different functions of the two devices. My understanding of the reason for the restrictions of the iphone is because quite simply it is a phone, and it needs to work when it is needed to work (think emergency situation). Of course if in doing so one would increase the profitibility of a device for a company then it would also be a good business decision.</p><p>A tablet (or a laptop, or a mp3 player) would not have the same expectations of reliability, and thus could be made without (or with less of) the "stupid" restrictions<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... [maybe]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This comparison is not does n't feel entirely accurate .
Just think of the different functions of the two devices .
My understanding of the reason for the restrictions of the iphone is because quite simply it is a phone , and it needs to work when it is needed to work ( think emergency situation ) .
Of course if in doing so one would increase the profitibility of a device for a company then it would also be a good business decision.A tablet ( or a laptop , or a mp3 player ) would not have the same expectations of reliability , and thus could be made without ( or with less of ) the " stupid " restrictions ... [ maybe ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This comparison is not doesn't feel entirely accurate.
Just think of the different functions of the two devices.
My understanding of the reason for the restrictions of the iphone is because quite simply it is a phone, and it needs to work when it is needed to work (think emergency situation).
Of course if in doing so one would increase the profitibility of a device for a company then it would also be a good business decision.A tablet (or a laptop, or a mp3 player) would not have the same expectations of reliability, and thus could be made without (or with less of) the "stupid" restrictions ... [maybe]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696130</id>
	<title>Re:ooooh!</title>
	<author>nmg196</author>
	<datestamp>1262972340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Eh?  Most of those already have tablet PCs out - it's Apple that are copying them - not the other way round!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Eh ?
Most of those already have tablet PCs out - it 's Apple that are copying them - not the other way round !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eh?
Most of those already have tablet PCs out - it's Apple that are copying them - not the other way round!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696906</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone causing low hopes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262975520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly.  Even laptops are more restrictive than desktops.  Mobile devices like the iPhone, Kindle, etc. are horrible in that they do not let the user control their environment.  Until that changes it might as well be a kid's toy.  And I'm not paying $1K/year.  $600/year ($50/month) should be enough for any general consumer service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
Even laptops are more restrictive than desktops .
Mobile devices like the iPhone , Kindle , etc .
are horrible in that they do not let the user control their environment .
Until that changes it might as well be a kid 's toy .
And I 'm not paying $ 1K/year .
$ 600/year ( $ 50/month ) should be enough for any general consumer service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
Even laptops are more restrictive than desktops.
Mobile devices like the iPhone, Kindle, etc.
are horrible in that they do not let the user control their environment.
Until that changes it might as well be a kid's toy.
And I'm not paying $1K/year.
$600/year ($50/month) should be enough for any general consumer service.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30698820</id>
	<title>I do not have any hopes for it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262983560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do not say that everyone has high hopes for it because that would include me and I do not have any hopes for it.</p><p>Please change the title to say "Why Some Have High Hopes for Apple Tablet".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do not say that everyone has high hopes for it because that would include me and I do not have any hopes for it.Please change the title to say " Why Some Have High Hopes for Apple Tablet " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do not say that everyone has high hopes for it because that would include me and I do not have any hopes for it.Please change the title to say "Why Some Have High Hopes for Apple Tablet".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695242</id>
	<title>No One</title>
	<author>zoomshorts</author>
	<datestamp>1262969340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No one cares. Apple fans are idiots. BFD</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No one cares .
Apple fans are idiots .
BFD</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No one cares.
Apple fans are idiots.
BFD</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30703306</id>
	<title>Re:If it can't fit in my pocket...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262961480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You want Chuck's new Intersect?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You want Chuck 's new Intersect ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You want Chuck's new Intersect?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30702052</id>
	<title>Re:all I want from apple is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262954580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ctrl-a moves to the beginning of the line. ctrl-e moves to the end of the line.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ctrl-a moves to the beginning of the line .
ctrl-e moves to the end of the line .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ctrl-a moves to the beginning of the line.
ctrl-e moves to the end of the line.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694632</id>
	<title>Rumours</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262967180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Rumours" is a nice album by Fleetwood Mac, brought out in the eurly 1980s. That is the only one to take seriously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Rumours " is a nice album by Fleetwood Mac , brought out in the eurly 1980s .
That is the only one to take seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Rumours" is a nice album by Fleetwood Mac, brought out in the eurly 1980s.
That is the only one to take seriously.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30700326</id>
	<title>Because Apple user don't know shit</title>
	<author>Latinhypercube</author>
	<datestamp>1262946420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because Apple user don't know shit until they are SHOWN... LIKE CHILDREN. Actually children are more intuitive than Apple users.
<br>Technology is a big scary monster to Apple~tards them until uncle Apple holds them by the hand and shows them delicately how they can check their email and paint with their fingers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because Apple user do n't know shit until they are SHOWN... LIKE CHILDREN .
Actually children are more intuitive than Apple users .
Technology is a big scary monster to Apple ~ tards them until uncle Apple holds them by the hand and shows them delicately how they can check their email and paint with their fingers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because Apple user don't know shit until they are SHOWN... LIKE CHILDREN.
Actually children are more intuitive than Apple users.
Technology is a big scary monster to Apple~tards them until uncle Apple holds them by the hand and shows them delicately how they can check their email and paint with their fingers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30702416</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>Hadlock</author>
	<datestamp>1262956200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right but most of those failures came of light after Jobs left the company. Apple's "dark age" as some might call it. This magical tablet supposedly has Jobs' blessing, as did the iPod. Jobs usually only puts his name on products that succeed. The tablet is going to need some sort of amazing revolutionary interface similar in magnitude to the iPod's to succeed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right but most of those failures came of light after Jobs left the company .
Apple 's " dark age " as some might call it .
This magical tablet supposedly has Jobs ' blessing , as did the iPod .
Jobs usually only puts his name on products that succeed .
The tablet is going to need some sort of amazing revolutionary interface similar in magnitude to the iPod 's to succeed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right but most of those failures came of light after Jobs left the company.
Apple's "dark age" as some might call it.
This magical tablet supposedly has Jobs' blessing, as did the iPod.
Jobs usually only puts his name on products that succeed.
The tablet is going to need some sort of amazing revolutionary interface similar in magnitude to the iPod's to succeed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695276</id>
	<title>Re:Rumours</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262969520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1977 actually.</p><p><a href="http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=10:fifpxqy5ld0e" title="allmusic.com" rel="nofollow">http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=10:fifpxqy5ld0e</a> [allmusic.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1977 actually.http : //allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll ? p = amg&amp;sql = 10 : fifpxqy5ld0e [ allmusic.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1977 actually.http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=10:fifpxqy5ld0e [allmusic.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695576</id>
	<title>Too high expectations</title>
	<author>Stratoukos</author>
	<datestamp>1262970480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Hence the hopes for the iSlate  which are so high that it may be difficult for even Apple to meet them.</p></div><p>Anyone who regularly reads rumors about Apple products knows that this is always true. The expectations set from rumors and fanboys are always too high for Apple to meet.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hence the hopes for the iSlate which are so high that it may be difficult for even Apple to meet them.Anyone who regularly reads rumors about Apple products knows that this is always true .
The expectations set from rumors and fanboys are always too high for Apple to meet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hence the hopes for the iSlate  which are so high that it may be difficult for even Apple to meet them.Anyone who regularly reads rumors about Apple products knows that this is always true.
The expectations set from rumors and fanboys are always too high for Apple to meet.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694982</id>
	<title>iPhone causing low hopes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262968380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iPhone is why I have <em>low</em> hopes for an Apple tablet. Apple has demonstrated that they're willing to turn computing back 30 years and put stupid restrictions on their devices for the sake of control. I don't trust them to make a tablet that's open and has all of the capabilities that a device like this should have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPhone is why I have low hopes for an Apple tablet .
Apple has demonstrated that they 're willing to turn computing back 30 years and put stupid restrictions on their devices for the sake of control .
I do n't trust them to make a tablet that 's open and has all of the capabilities that a device like this should have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPhone is why I have low hopes for an Apple tablet.
Apple has demonstrated that they're willing to turn computing back 30 years and put stupid restrictions on their devices for the sake of control.
I don't trust them to make a tablet that's open and has all of the capabilities that a device like this should have.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30705410</id>
	<title>Re:Article is myopic, overlooking past examples</title>
	<author>K8Fan</author>
	<datestamp>1263067980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thanks for mentioning PenPoint. It was the "choice" of the dreadful "Windows for Pen Computing" that killed it - timid executives went with the "safe" choice. PenPoint was brilliant. As far as I can tell, Microsoft felt threatened by the lack of a distinction between the "OS" and "applications" in PenPoint.

I'm sure many of the bright folks from Go wound up at Apple, so hopefully some of the PenPoint concepts will be in there -</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks for mentioning PenPoint .
It was the " choice " of the dreadful " Windows for Pen Computing " that killed it - timid executives went with the " safe " choice .
PenPoint was brilliant .
As far as I can tell , Microsoft felt threatened by the lack of a distinction between the " OS " and " applications " in PenPoint .
I 'm sure many of the bright folks from Go wound up at Apple , so hopefully some of the PenPoint concepts will be in there -</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks for mentioning PenPoint.
It was the "choice" of the dreadful "Windows for Pen Computing" that killed it - timid executives went with the "safe" choice.
PenPoint was brilliant.
As far as I can tell, Microsoft felt threatened by the lack of a distinction between the "OS" and "applications" in PenPoint.
I'm sure many of the bright folks from Go wound up at Apple, so hopefully some of the PenPoint concepts will be in there -</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696764</id>
	<title>Re:LOL WUT?</title>
	<author>intheshelter</author>
	<datestamp>1262975040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1.)  Quickly catching up is just another way of saying "hasn't caught up"<br>2.) Unsubstantiated hype is everywhere on this, but I've read many speculations saying the price will be much lower than what you say.  That aside, if netbooks were actually filling this niche then no, the tablet won't catch on.  I honestly doubt that netbooks are filling this niche so we'll have to see how it pans out.<br>3.) Kindle/Nook/Sony eReader don't seem to be blowing everyone's mind with their record sales.  It won't take much to blow them out of the water.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
) Quickly catching up is just another way of saying " has n't caught up " 2 .
) Unsubstantiated hype is everywhere on this , but I 've read many speculations saying the price will be much lower than what you say .
That aside , if netbooks were actually filling this niche then no , the tablet wo n't catch on .
I honestly doubt that netbooks are filling this niche so we 'll have to see how it pans out.3 .
) Kindle/Nook/Sony eReader do n't seem to be blowing everyone 's mind with their record sales .
It wo n't take much to blow them out of the water .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
)  Quickly catching up is just another way of saying "hasn't caught up"2.
) Unsubstantiated hype is everywhere on this, but I've read many speculations saying the price will be much lower than what you say.
That aside, if netbooks were actually filling this niche then no, the tablet won't catch on.
I honestly doubt that netbooks are filling this niche so we'll have to see how it pans out.3.
) Kindle/Nook/Sony eReader don't seem to be blowing everyone's mind with their record sales.
It won't take much to blow them out of the water.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695362</id>
	<title>Windows is Bad for Touch Interface</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262969820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My buddy has a WINCE cell phone.  It sucks ass because you need to touch it with a stylus, and because you can't find anything through the 7 levels of menu hell.</p><p>My iPhone seems to have everything I need no more than 2 fat finger touches away.  There aren't any flyout menus.</p><p>This exact same problem is why Windows tablets suck and will continue to suck.  WINCE is just WINDOWS writ small.</p><p>PS I know it's not WINCE anymore, but it makes me WINCE to look at it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My buddy has a WINCE cell phone .
It sucks ass because you need to touch it with a stylus , and because you ca n't find anything through the 7 levels of menu hell.My iPhone seems to have everything I need no more than 2 fat finger touches away .
There are n't any flyout menus.This exact same problem is why Windows tablets suck and will continue to suck .
WINCE is just WINDOWS writ small.PS I know it 's not WINCE anymore , but it makes me WINCE to look at it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My buddy has a WINCE cell phone.
It sucks ass because you need to touch it with a stylus, and because you can't find anything through the 7 levels of menu hell.My iPhone seems to have everything I need no more than 2 fat finger touches away.
There aren't any flyout menus.This exact same problem is why Windows tablets suck and will continue to suck.
WINCE is just WINDOWS writ small.PS I know it's not WINCE anymore, but it makes me WINCE to look at it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695810</id>
	<title>Re:Kay.</title>
	<author>IrquiM</author>
	<datestamp>1262971260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But you still bought an iPhone? Nokia's been making phones for ages!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But you still bought an iPhone ?
Nokia 's been making phones for ages !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But you still bought an iPhone?
Nokia's been making phones for ages!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696866</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing Latent About It</title>
	<author>Bill\_the\_Engineer</author>
	<datestamp>1262975340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry, "netbook" already used by those small underpowered portables that include a keyboard....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , " netbook " already used by those small underpowered portables that include a keyboard... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, "netbook" already used by those small underpowered portables that include a keyboard....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30698906</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>Bill\_the\_Engineer</author>
	<datestamp>1262983920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let me make a few clarifications to an otherwise good post (Also, I take issue with your use of the X got this right remarks):
</p><blockquote><div><p>1. The Newton. Palm made this work. Not Apple. Later on Apple copied the Treo format (phone + PDA) Palm made popular and merged it with a virtual keyboard.</p></div></blockquote><p>The Newton Message Pad 100 came out in 1993. The last Newton Message Pad 120 was discontinued in 1996. The original Palm Pilot (which I still have laying around here somewhere) was introduced in 1996. US Robotics learned from the experience that Apple and Go corporation had in the market previously. Graffiti which was developed prior to the introduction of the PalmPilot was what gave US Robotics an advantage in the PDA market. Its simplified strokes eliminated most of the entry errors encountered with the Newton and Go..
</p><p>The Treo was created by Handspring (who defected from 3COM) not Palm. The Treo was neat and the addition of the thumb keyboard was a blessing (Grafitti was ruining my handwriting). Palm proved to be its own worst enemy after acquiring Handspring (Why would you spinoff your OS?) and lost significant market share to blackberry and Windows Mobile. I never felt like the Treo lived up to its full potiential. I always felt that the Treo was a PalmPilot with a phone strapped to it, instead of a truly integrated appliance.
</p><p>The iPhone which, everyone would like to quickly point out, differentiated itself by being consumer oriented with an App Store and tight integration with iTunes, Google Maps, and Safari. Blackberry, Palm and now Google are trying to catch up...
</p><p>So item 1 just proves that technology is cyclic and an evolutionary process based on past attempts (ie. Go -&gt; Newton -&gt; Palm -&gt; Treo -&gt; iPhone -&gt; ?).
</p><blockquote><div><p>2. Apple Pippin. Failed game/multimedia console. Nintendo64 and PS2 got it right.<br>
4. Apple QuickTake. Failed digital camera. Everyone gets this right.<br>
5. Macintosh TV. Failed TV/PC combo. Now TV is just a PCI card away or done with steaming/downloading.</p></div></blockquote><p>Items 2, 4, and 5 were from Sculley trying to push Apple IP into other markets without much of a game plan much less a marketing scheme.
</p><p>As for #5 - After almost 17 years has passed since the Macintosh TV was discontinued, I would hope that by now we would be able to get a PCI or USB TV tuner that works... Don't forget the time period that these products were introduced.
</p><blockquote><div><p>3. Power Mac G4 Cube. Failed on the market. Infamous for cracking case. Now, there's no shortage of small cube PCs. The PC world got this right.</p></div></blockquote><p>At around $1600 in 2001 money, price killed the G4 Cube since it was $200 more expensive than the Power Mac G4. The cracking case was not that big an issue (amplified mostly by legend).
</p><p>The Apple Mac Mini continues where the G4 Cube left off, and at a much lower price. I think we should re-evaluate your "PC world gotten this form factor right" remark. If anything, I think it's more accurate to say that the success that the Mac Mini enjoyed luring the first wave of "switchers" was what prompted the PC market to move to a more compact form factor. A form factor that the PC market has yet to master (IMHO).
</p><blockquote><div><p>6. Apple's "Hockey Puck" USB Mouse. No one gets this right because its such a bad idea.</p></div></blockquote><p>Steve Jobs learned a valuable lesson on not trusting graphic artists with everything...
</p><blockquote><div><p>7. eMate. Low cost Newton based PC. OLPC and others get this right.</p></div></blockquote><p>I don't think I understand your criteria here.
</p><p>1. The eMate created the low cost "laptop" educational appliance. It died when Steve Jobs pulled the plug on Newton in Feb 1998. Branium came up with a similar product using Windows CE to pick up the market that Apple abandoned.
</p><p>2. The OLPC takes advantage of the dramatic price drop low powered processors experienced since 1998 and OLPC is a non-profit using donations to fund the endeavor of providing a laptop to a child. So what extra magic did OLPC do other than to take the initiative of providing one laptop per child (a very noble cause BTW).
</p><p>3. Netbooks is a market that Apple has (to date) expressed no interest to enter. Netbooks also take advantage of it being the year 2010 and not 1998 therefore electronic parts are cheaper now.
</p><p>4. I would like to point out that the iPod Touch is very popular, and seems to be more popular than netbooks. If we were going by the original criteria of a economical computing device using a PDA OS, then the iPod Touch seems to have handedly won that category.
</p><p>5. The clamshell design inspired the iBook which was a more general purpose computer, and placed Apple firmly back into the laptop market.
</p><p>Just from #5, I would be hesitant to place the eMate in a "failures" list I think a "death by Jobs" list may be more appropriate.
</p><p> <b>Despite what most Mac zealots believe</b> Apple didn't become the company it is now by magically producing wonderful products. No. Apple got where it's at by not being afraid to try new ideas. Though I must admit that Steve Jobs allows fewer "experiments" to reach the market which may explain why Apple has the "can do no wrong" perception.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let me make a few clarifications to an otherwise good post ( Also , I take issue with your use of the X got this right remarks ) : 1 .
The Newton .
Palm made this work .
Not Apple .
Later on Apple copied the Treo format ( phone + PDA ) Palm made popular and merged it with a virtual keyboard.The Newton Message Pad 100 came out in 1993 .
The last Newton Message Pad 120 was discontinued in 1996 .
The original Palm Pilot ( which I still have laying around here somewhere ) was introduced in 1996 .
US Robotics learned from the experience that Apple and Go corporation had in the market previously .
Graffiti which was developed prior to the introduction of the PalmPilot was what gave US Robotics an advantage in the PDA market .
Its simplified strokes eliminated most of the entry errors encountered with the Newton and Go. . The Treo was created by Handspring ( who defected from 3COM ) not Palm .
The Treo was neat and the addition of the thumb keyboard was a blessing ( Grafitti was ruining my handwriting ) .
Palm proved to be its own worst enemy after acquiring Handspring ( Why would you spinoff your OS ?
) and lost significant market share to blackberry and Windows Mobile .
I never felt like the Treo lived up to its full potiential .
I always felt that the Treo was a PalmPilot with a phone strapped to it , instead of a truly integrated appliance .
The iPhone which , everyone would like to quickly point out , differentiated itself by being consumer oriented with an App Store and tight integration with iTunes , Google Maps , and Safari .
Blackberry , Palm and now Google are trying to catch up.. . So item 1 just proves that technology is cyclic and an evolutionary process based on past attempts ( ie .
Go - &gt; Newton - &gt; Palm - &gt; Treo - &gt; iPhone - &gt; ? ) .
2. Apple Pippin .
Failed game/multimedia console .
Nintendo64 and PS2 got it right .
4. Apple QuickTake .
Failed digital camera .
Everyone gets this right .
5. Macintosh TV .
Failed TV/PC combo .
Now TV is just a PCI card away or done with steaming/downloading.Items 2 , 4 , and 5 were from Sculley trying to push Apple IP into other markets without much of a game plan much less a marketing scheme .
As for # 5 - After almost 17 years has passed since the Macintosh TV was discontinued , I would hope that by now we would be able to get a PCI or USB TV tuner that works... Do n't forget the time period that these products were introduced .
3. Power Mac G4 Cube .
Failed on the market .
Infamous for cracking case .
Now , there 's no shortage of small cube PCs .
The PC world got this right.At around $ 1600 in 2001 money , price killed the G4 Cube since it was $ 200 more expensive than the Power Mac G4 .
The cracking case was not that big an issue ( amplified mostly by legend ) .
The Apple Mac Mini continues where the G4 Cube left off , and at a much lower price .
I think we should re-evaluate your " PC world gotten this form factor right " remark .
If anything , I think it 's more accurate to say that the success that the Mac Mini enjoyed luring the first wave of " switchers " was what prompted the PC market to move to a more compact form factor .
A form factor that the PC market has yet to master ( IMHO ) .
6. Apple 's " Hockey Puck " USB Mouse .
No one gets this right because its such a bad idea.Steve Jobs learned a valuable lesson on not trusting graphic artists with everything.. . 7. eMate .
Low cost Newton based PC .
OLPC and others get this right.I do n't think I understand your criteria here .
1. The eMate created the low cost " laptop " educational appliance .
It died when Steve Jobs pulled the plug on Newton in Feb 1998 .
Branium came up with a similar product using Windows CE to pick up the market that Apple abandoned .
2. The OLPC takes advantage of the dramatic price drop low powered processors experienced since 1998 and OLPC is a non-profit using donations to fund the endeavor of providing a laptop to a child .
So what extra magic did OLPC do other than to take the initiative of providing one laptop per child ( a very noble cause BTW ) .
3. Netbooks is a market that Apple has ( to date ) expressed no interest to enter .
Netbooks also take advantage of it being the year 2010 and not 1998 therefore electronic parts are cheaper now .
4. I would like to point out that the iPod Touch is very popular , and seems to be more popular than netbooks .
If we were going by the original criteria of a economical computing device using a PDA OS , then the iPod Touch seems to have handedly won that category .
5. The clamshell design inspired the iBook which was a more general purpose computer , and placed Apple firmly back into the laptop market .
Just from # 5 , I would be hesitant to place the eMate in a " failures " list I think a " death by Jobs " list may be more appropriate .
Despite what most Mac zealots believe Apple did n't become the company it is now by magically producing wonderful products .
No. Apple got where it 's at by not being afraid to try new ideas .
Though I must admit that Steve Jobs allows fewer " experiments " to reach the market which may explain why Apple has the " can do no wrong " perception .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let me make a few clarifications to an otherwise good post (Also, I take issue with your use of the X got this right remarks):
1.
The Newton.
Palm made this work.
Not Apple.
Later on Apple copied the Treo format (phone + PDA) Palm made popular and merged it with a virtual keyboard.The Newton Message Pad 100 came out in 1993.
The last Newton Message Pad 120 was discontinued in 1996.
The original Palm Pilot (which I still have laying around here somewhere) was introduced in 1996.
US Robotics learned from the experience that Apple and Go corporation had in the market previously.
Graffiti which was developed prior to the introduction of the PalmPilot was what gave US Robotics an advantage in the PDA market.
Its simplified strokes eliminated most of the entry errors encountered with the Newton and Go..
The Treo was created by Handspring (who defected from 3COM) not Palm.
The Treo was neat and the addition of the thumb keyboard was a blessing (Grafitti was ruining my handwriting).
Palm proved to be its own worst enemy after acquiring Handspring (Why would you spinoff your OS?
) and lost significant market share to blackberry and Windows Mobile.
I never felt like the Treo lived up to its full potiential.
I always felt that the Treo was a PalmPilot with a phone strapped to it, instead of a truly integrated appliance.
The iPhone which, everyone would like to quickly point out, differentiated itself by being consumer oriented with an App Store and tight integration with iTunes, Google Maps, and Safari.
Blackberry, Palm and now Google are trying to catch up...
So item 1 just proves that technology is cyclic and an evolutionary process based on past attempts (ie.
Go -&gt; Newton -&gt; Palm -&gt; Treo -&gt; iPhone -&gt; ?).
2. Apple Pippin.
Failed game/multimedia console.
Nintendo64 and PS2 got it right.
4. Apple QuickTake.
Failed digital camera.
Everyone gets this right.
5. Macintosh TV.
Failed TV/PC combo.
Now TV is just a PCI card away or done with steaming/downloading.Items 2, 4, and 5 were from Sculley trying to push Apple IP into other markets without much of a game plan much less a marketing scheme.
As for #5 - After almost 17 years has passed since the Macintosh TV was discontinued, I would hope that by now we would be able to get a PCI or USB TV tuner that works... Don't forget the time period that these products were introduced.
3. Power Mac G4 Cube.
Failed on the market.
Infamous for cracking case.
Now, there's no shortage of small cube PCs.
The PC world got this right.At around $1600 in 2001 money, price killed the G4 Cube since it was $200 more expensive than the Power Mac G4.
The cracking case was not that big an issue (amplified mostly by legend).
The Apple Mac Mini continues where the G4 Cube left off, and at a much lower price.
I think we should re-evaluate your "PC world gotten this form factor right" remark.
If anything, I think it's more accurate to say that the success that the Mac Mini enjoyed luring the first wave of "switchers" was what prompted the PC market to move to a more compact form factor.
A form factor that the PC market has yet to master (IMHO).
6. Apple's "Hockey Puck" USB Mouse.
No one gets this right because its such a bad idea.Steve Jobs learned a valuable lesson on not trusting graphic artists with everything...
7. eMate.
Low cost Newton based PC.
OLPC and others get this right.I don't think I understand your criteria here.
1. The eMate created the low cost "laptop" educational appliance.
It died when Steve Jobs pulled the plug on Newton in Feb 1998.
Branium came up with a similar product using Windows CE to pick up the market that Apple abandoned.
2. The OLPC takes advantage of the dramatic price drop low powered processors experienced since 1998 and OLPC is a non-profit using donations to fund the endeavor of providing a laptop to a child.
So what extra magic did OLPC do other than to take the initiative of providing one laptop per child (a very noble cause BTW).
3. Netbooks is a market that Apple has (to date) expressed no interest to enter.
Netbooks also take advantage of it being the year 2010 and not 1998 therefore electronic parts are cheaper now.
4. I would like to point out that the iPod Touch is very popular, and seems to be more popular than netbooks.
If we were going by the original criteria of a economical computing device using a PDA OS, then the iPod Touch seems to have handedly won that category.
5. The clamshell design inspired the iBook which was a more general purpose computer, and placed Apple firmly back into the laptop market.
Just from #5, I would be hesitant to place the eMate in a "failures" list I think a "death by Jobs" list may be more appropriate.
Despite what most Mac zealots believe Apple didn't become the company it is now by magically producing wonderful products.
No. Apple got where it's at by not being afraid to try new ideas.
Though I must admit that Steve Jobs allows fewer "experiments" to reach the market which may explain why Apple has the "can do no wrong" perception.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30699956</id>
	<title>Re:If it can't fit in my pocket...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262944800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>I don't want to wear anything, nor carry anything. I have enough weight as it is.
<br>
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I don't want to speak or gesture. Just think and <i>presto</i> my command is executed and appears no before my eyes, but beamed into my head.
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Anything else is so<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... 00's (like a tablet/slate).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't want to wear anything , nor carry anything .
I have enough weight as it is .
I do n't want to speak or gesture .
Just think and presto my command is executed and appears no before my eyes , but beamed into my head .
Anything else is so .... 00 's ( like a tablet/slate ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't want to wear anything, nor carry anything.
I have enough weight as it is.
I don't want to speak or gesture.
Just think and presto my command is executed and appears no before my eyes, but beamed into my head.
Anything else is so .... 00's (like a tablet/slate).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696112</id>
	<title>Obvious Troll is Obvious</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262972280000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>fanboy spelled backwards is asshat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>fanboy spelled backwards is asshat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>fanboy spelled backwards is asshat.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30712738</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>grouchomarxist</author>
	<datestamp>1263061560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Note that only two of those were on Steve Jobs' watch, that makes a big difference. Apple has been performing several orders of magnitude better since Jobs came back. Also, I'd say the QuickTake wasn't really a failure, it is just that Apple failed to follow up on it fast enough.</p><p>I'm not saying Jobs is perfect, plenty of bad products have been released with his approval, just that many of the products you mention were under different management.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Note that only two of those were on Steve Jobs ' watch , that makes a big difference .
Apple has been performing several orders of magnitude better since Jobs came back .
Also , I 'd say the QuickTake was n't really a failure , it is just that Apple failed to follow up on it fast enough.I 'm not saying Jobs is perfect , plenty of bad products have been released with his approval , just that many of the products you mention were under different management .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Note that only two of those were on Steve Jobs' watch, that makes a big difference.
Apple has been performing several orders of magnitude better since Jobs came back.
Also, I'd say the QuickTake wasn't really a failure, it is just that Apple failed to follow up on it fast enough.I'm not saying Jobs is perfect, plenty of bad products have been released with his approval, just that many of the products you mention were under different management.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:what's possible? God help us.</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1262974080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>1)<br>the iPhone and touch keyboard are the best out there for that screen size, I wish my G1 implemented a similar style.</p><p>2)<br>You need t get the right kind of glove.</p><p>I use these:</p><p><a href="http://www.rei.com/product/305045" title="rei.com">http://www.rei.com/product/305045</a> [rei.com]</p><p>or make your own using conductive thread:</p><p><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/diy-touchscreen-gloves-are-as-simple-as-a-few-stitches/" title="engadget.com">http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/diy-touchscreen-gloves-are-as-simple-as-a-few-stitches/</a> [engadget.com]</p><p>3)<br>The iPhone touch screen is awesome, and I wish they would enable multipoint touch on my G1.<br>I find it useful as hell on my iPod Touch. I'm not sure what you are doing, or what you mean by 'actual work'.</p><p>I would have got one, but it is/was lacking features compared to the G1. TO many to give up in exchange for a more stylish phone with a great UI.</p><p>If T-Mobil comes out with a family plan for the Nexus one, I'll grab one in a heart beat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) the iPhone and touch keyboard are the best out there for that screen size , I wish my G1 implemented a similar style.2 ) You need t get the right kind of glove.I use these : http : //www.rei.com/product/305045 [ rei.com ] or make your own using conductive thread : http : //www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/diy-touchscreen-gloves-are-as-simple-as-a-few-stitches/ [ engadget.com ] 3 ) The iPhone touch screen is awesome , and I wish they would enable multipoint touch on my G1.I find it useful as hell on my iPod Touch .
I 'm not sure what you are doing , or what you mean by 'actual work'.I would have got one , but it is/was lacking features compared to the G1 .
TO many to give up in exchange for a more stylish phone with a great UI.If T-Mobil comes out with a family plan for the Nexus one , I 'll grab one in a heart beat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1)the iPhone and touch keyboard are the best out there for that screen size, I wish my G1 implemented a similar style.2)You need t get the right kind of glove.I use these:http://www.rei.com/product/305045 [rei.com]or make your own using conductive thread:http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/diy-touchscreen-gloves-are-as-simple-as-a-few-stitches/ [engadget.com]3)The iPhone touch screen is awesome, and I wish they would enable multipoint touch on my G1.I find it useful as hell on my iPod Touch.
I'm not sure what you are doing, or what you mean by 'actual work'.I would have got one, but it is/was lacking features compared to the G1.
TO many to give up in exchange for a more stylish phone with a great UI.If T-Mobil comes out with a family plan for the Nexus one, I'll grab one in a heart beat.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695844</id>
	<title>Whatever</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262971380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>
<p>Until Apple starts shipping mobile systems with a GTX 280M they're systems are completely uninteresting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Until Apple starts shipping mobile systems with a GTX 280M they 're systems are completely uninteresting .</tokentext>
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Until Apple starts shipping mobile systems with a GTX 280M they're systems are completely uninteresting.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696318</id>
	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>Archangel Michael</author>
	<datestamp>1262973180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, I completely agree.</p><p>I used to have a sign above my workbench, with various "rates"</p><p>Bench Work: $50/hr<br>Bench Work, while you wait: $60/hr<br>Bench Work, you watching me: $75/hr<br>Bench Work, you helping me: $100/hr</p><p>I was serious about it too. The fact of the matter is, me doing the work is one thing, me training/teaching is another. And I explained it as such. You want my expertise, then you're gonna have to pay for it.</p><p>What I do is not difficult, it just takes knowing what to do and when to do it (or not do it). It took a great deal of effort on my part to learn everything I know.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , I completely agree.I used to have a sign above my workbench , with various " rates " Bench Work : $ 50/hrBench Work , while you wait : $ 60/hrBench Work , you watching me : $ 75/hrBench Work , you helping me : $ 100/hrI was serious about it too .
The fact of the matter is , me doing the work is one thing , me training/teaching is another .
And I explained it as such .
You want my expertise , then you 're gon na have to pay for it.What I do is not difficult , it just takes knowing what to do and when to do it ( or not do it ) .
It took a great deal of effort on my part to learn everything I know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I completely agree.I used to have a sign above my workbench, with various "rates"Bench Work: $50/hrBench Work, while you wait: $60/hrBench Work, you watching me: $75/hrBench Work, you helping me: $100/hrI was serious about it too.
The fact of the matter is, me doing the work is one thing, me training/teaching is another.
And I explained it as such.
You want my expertise, then you're gonna have to pay for it.What I do is not difficult, it just takes knowing what to do and when to do it (or not do it).
It took a great deal of effort on my part to learn everything I know.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Pretty much</title>
	<author>Sycraft-fu</author>
	<datestamp>1262971980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is just PR firms hyping it up, combined with "technology" journalists that know little about journalism, less about technology, but love Macs because that's what the news room has.</p><p>The really funny thing to me is that they act like this tablet is something new and amazing. No, not at all actually. Tables PCs have been out for years. In fact Windows 7 has quite good tablet features integrated right in to it. Install it on a tablet system, or add a tablet to a desktop (there are desktop tablet input devices made by people like Wacom) and it turns on a whole bunch of related features like text recognition and so on. There are also convertible laptops. One of our professors uses those. They have a tablet screen, but a normal keyboard and touch pad. You can use them like a normal laptop, or twist the screen around and close them with it exposed and use them like a tablet.</p><p>This isn't a case of them boldly forging in to a new market, this is them releasing a device that has been around for years. As such all I've seen is PR/fanboy hype, and little in the way of genuine enthusiasm.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is just PR firms hyping it up , combined with " technology " journalists that know little about journalism , less about technology , but love Macs because that 's what the news room has.The really funny thing to me is that they act like this tablet is something new and amazing .
No , not at all actually .
Tables PCs have been out for years .
In fact Windows 7 has quite good tablet features integrated right in to it .
Install it on a tablet system , or add a tablet to a desktop ( there are desktop tablet input devices made by people like Wacom ) and it turns on a whole bunch of related features like text recognition and so on .
There are also convertible laptops .
One of our professors uses those .
They have a tablet screen , but a normal keyboard and touch pad .
You can use them like a normal laptop , or twist the screen around and close them with it exposed and use them like a tablet.This is n't a case of them boldly forging in to a new market , this is them releasing a device that has been around for years .
As such all I 've seen is PR/fanboy hype , and little in the way of genuine enthusiasm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is just PR firms hyping it up, combined with "technology" journalists that know little about journalism, less about technology, but love Macs because that's what the news room has.The really funny thing to me is that they act like this tablet is something new and amazing.
No, not at all actually.
Tables PCs have been out for years.
In fact Windows 7 has quite good tablet features integrated right in to it.
Install it on a tablet system, or add a tablet to a desktop (there are desktop tablet input devices made by people like Wacom) and it turns on a whole bunch of related features like text recognition and so on.
There are also convertible laptops.
One of our professors uses those.
They have a tablet screen, but a normal keyboard and touch pad.
You can use them like a normal laptop, or twist the screen around and close them with it exposed and use them like a tablet.This isn't a case of them boldly forging in to a new market, this is them releasing a device that has been around for years.
As such all I've seen is PR/fanboy hype, and little in the way of genuine enthusiasm.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:LOL WUT?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262971440000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>1) When android reaches even half of Apple's 40+ million sales give me a call. Until then, let's not use the words 'catching up' especially combined with 'quickly'.<br>2) Apple does equal 'low cost'. No one expects that. $1000 is just a rumor; let's just wait for the ACTUAL price. OK?<br>3) Let's be even clearer, whatever the technology the Apple device will blow away both the Sony and Amazon readers combined.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) When android reaches even half of Apple 's 40 + million sales give me a call .
Until then , let 's not use the words 'catching up ' especially combined with 'quickly'.2 ) Apple does equal 'low cost' .
No one expects that .
$ 1000 is just a rumor ; let 's just wait for the ACTUAL price .
OK ? 3 ) Let 's be even clearer , whatever the technology the Apple device will blow away both the Sony and Amazon readers combined .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) When android reaches even half of Apple's 40+ million sales give me a call.
Until then, let's not use the words 'catching up' especially combined with 'quickly'.2) Apple does equal 'low cost'.
No one expects that.
$1000 is just a rumor; let's just wait for the ACTUAL price.
OK?3) Let's be even clearer, whatever the technology the Apple device will blow away both the Sony and Amazon readers combined.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Here's my take....</title>
	<author>GoatSucker</author>
	<datestamp>1262977320000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Whatever is released, it's guaranteed to upset people that have already made up their mind on what Apple *should* release. Apple would be insane to release Snow Leopard on a tablet due to the usability issues, so anyone wanting a desktop-like experience will cry that Apple is epic fail.</p><p>However, here's what I think is more likely, and I'd line up on day one to get it:</p><p>- General-purpose *browsing* device. Web browser, ebook reader, magazine reader. I can imagine people getting their Vogue or FHM subscriptions through iTunes, and using their tablet to flick through the magazine.  (Fully interactive, hyperlink enabled magazines, mind you, not just static PDF's).</p><p>- Very slim, shiny hardware. Thin as an iPod Touch. Standby time counted in days. i.e. low-power ARM based CPU</p><p>- App Store for application delivery. Why break something that ain't broken (for Apple and customers at least. Dev's will still hate on it).</p><p>- One full-screen app at a time UI. Not neccessary limited to running one app at a time, though. Think full-screen office apps, powerpoint viewer, video players. Maybe use existing iPhone apps as widgets.</p><p>- Front-facing video camera, for iChat / Skype videoconferencing.</p><p>- Games. The iPhone has been massive for handheld games, this could be even better.</p><p>The above would be perfect for 80\% of home users. Apple can position the MacBook / MacPros for professionals that need all that complexity, and the tablet for everyone else. With a stand and wireless keyboard / mouse, it would also make a cheap home computer, but it would be ready to pick up and go with you at any time. No complicated file system, no hard to use UI, no settings to worry about. Just works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whatever is released , it 's guaranteed to upset people that have already made up their mind on what Apple * should * release .
Apple would be insane to release Snow Leopard on a tablet due to the usability issues , so anyone wanting a desktop-like experience will cry that Apple is epic fail.However , here 's what I think is more likely , and I 'd line up on day one to get it : - General-purpose * browsing * device .
Web browser , ebook reader , magazine reader .
I can imagine people getting their Vogue or FHM subscriptions through iTunes , and using their tablet to flick through the magazine .
( Fully interactive , hyperlink enabled magazines , mind you , not just static PDF 's ) .- Very slim , shiny hardware .
Thin as an iPod Touch .
Standby time counted in days .
i.e. low-power ARM based CPU- App Store for application delivery .
Why break something that ai n't broken ( for Apple and customers at least .
Dev 's will still hate on it ) .- One full-screen app at a time UI .
Not neccessary limited to running one app at a time , though .
Think full-screen office apps , powerpoint viewer , video players .
Maybe use existing iPhone apps as widgets.- Front-facing video camera , for iChat / Skype videoconferencing.- Games .
The iPhone has been massive for handheld games , this could be even better.The above would be perfect for 80 \ % of home users .
Apple can position the MacBook / MacPros for professionals that need all that complexity , and the tablet for everyone else .
With a stand and wireless keyboard / mouse , it would also make a cheap home computer , but it would be ready to pick up and go with you at any time .
No complicated file system , no hard to use UI , no settings to worry about .
Just works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whatever is released, it's guaranteed to upset people that have already made up their mind on what Apple *should* release.
Apple would be insane to release Snow Leopard on a tablet due to the usability issues, so anyone wanting a desktop-like experience will cry that Apple is epic fail.However, here's what I think is more likely, and I'd line up on day one to get it:- General-purpose *browsing* device.
Web browser, ebook reader, magazine reader.
I can imagine people getting their Vogue or FHM subscriptions through iTunes, and using their tablet to flick through the magazine.
(Fully interactive, hyperlink enabled magazines, mind you, not just static PDF's).- Very slim, shiny hardware.
Thin as an iPod Touch.
Standby time counted in days.
i.e. low-power ARM based CPU- App Store for application delivery.
Why break something that ain't broken (for Apple and customers at least.
Dev's will still hate on it).- One full-screen app at a time UI.
Not neccessary limited to running one app at a time, though.
Think full-screen office apps, powerpoint viewer, video players.
Maybe use existing iPhone apps as widgets.- Front-facing video camera, for iChat / Skype videoconferencing.- Games.
The iPhone has been massive for handheld games, this could be even better.The above would be perfect for 80\% of home users.
Apple can position the MacBook / MacPros for professionals that need all that complexity, and the tablet for everyone else.
With a stand and wireless keyboard / mouse, it would also make a cheap home computer, but it would be ready to pick up and go with you at any time.
No complicated file system, no hard to use UI, no settings to worry about.
Just works.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>mikael\_j</author>
	<datestamp>1262970540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>One Word. Cintiq from Wacom. I used the 21" one for over a year.</p></div><p>Too expensive for my tastes (the pricing for the Cintiq seems to be at least partially "we're the only ones with something like this on the market so we can charge whatever we want").</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Got tired of my hand covering up the damn screen. I'll stick to a Wacom tablet and a screen.</p></div><p>I tried a Cintiq a few years back and immediately wished I could replace my regular Wacom tablet with it for two reasons:</p><ol>
<li>You can rotate it, I often rotate the paper when drawing and a lot of otherwise very good apps (like Sketchbook Pro) don't let you rotate the workspace without actually changing the image you're working on.</li><li>It also allowed me to do typical "CG" things to stuff I was drawing without doing the whole "sketch first, then scan, then modify in photoshop/painter" routine, if I wanted to undo something or erase the same line for the 20th time then this had little impact on the final result (try erasing and redrawing the same line on a piece of paper 20 times and see how good that looks).</li></ol><p><div class="quote"><p>I doubt anyone will get much precision using a finger. A Wacom is at least 2400 point per inch. A tablet using a finger cannot have that precision.</p></div><p>I'm still hoping that the Apple tablet will have some sort of stylus capability, in fact, I've wondered for quite some time why those doing multitouch surface research with large multi-user tables and the like don't implement something similar to a switch between "pen mode" and "hand mode" (like a virtual button which is the only part that is always activated by fingers touching it and which can be used to toggle non-stylus interaction).</p><p>/Mikael</p></div>
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<tokenext>One Word .
Cintiq from Wacom .
I used the 21 " one for over a year.Too expensive for my tastes ( the pricing for the Cintiq seems to be at least partially " we 're the only ones with something like this on the market so we can charge whatever we want " ) .Got tired of my hand covering up the damn screen .
I 'll stick to a Wacom tablet and a screen.I tried a Cintiq a few years back and immediately wished I could replace my regular Wacom tablet with it for two reasons : You can rotate it , I often rotate the paper when drawing and a lot of otherwise very good apps ( like Sketchbook Pro ) do n't let you rotate the workspace without actually changing the image you 're working on.It also allowed me to do typical " CG " things to stuff I was drawing without doing the whole " sketch first , then scan , then modify in photoshop/painter " routine , if I wanted to undo something or erase the same line for the 20th time then this had little impact on the final result ( try erasing and redrawing the same line on a piece of paper 20 times and see how good that looks ) .I doubt anyone will get much precision using a finger .
A Wacom is at least 2400 point per inch .
A tablet using a finger can not have that precision.I 'm still hoping that the Apple tablet will have some sort of stylus capability , in fact , I 've wondered for quite some time why those doing multitouch surface research with large multi-user tables and the like do n't implement something similar to a switch between " pen mode " and " hand mode " ( like a virtual button which is the only part that is always activated by fingers touching it and which can be used to toggle non-stylus interaction ) ./Mikael</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One Word.
Cintiq from Wacom.
I used the 21" one for over a year.Too expensive for my tastes (the pricing for the Cintiq seems to be at least partially "we're the only ones with something like this on the market so we can charge whatever we want").Got tired of my hand covering up the damn screen.
I'll stick to a Wacom tablet and a screen.I tried a Cintiq a few years back and immediately wished I could replace my regular Wacom tablet with it for two reasons:
You can rotate it, I often rotate the paper when drawing and a lot of otherwise very good apps (like Sketchbook Pro) don't let you rotate the workspace without actually changing the image you're working on.It also allowed me to do typical "CG" things to stuff I was drawing without doing the whole "sketch first, then scan, then modify in photoshop/painter" routine, if I wanted to undo something or erase the same line for the 20th time then this had little impact on the final result (try erasing and redrawing the same line on a piece of paper 20 times and see how good that looks).I doubt anyone will get much precision using a finger.
A Wacom is at least 2400 point per inch.
A tablet using a finger cannot have that precision.I'm still hoping that the Apple tablet will have some sort of stylus capability, in fact, I've wondered for quite some time why those doing multitouch surface research with large multi-user tables and the like don't implement something similar to a switch between "pen mode" and "hand mode" (like a virtual button which is the only part that is always activated by fingers touching it and which can be used to toggle non-stylus interaction)./Mikael
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695142</id>
	<title>20 years too late</title>
	<author>wrencherd</author>
	<datestamp>1262968980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bill Atkinson outlined a plan for a "magic slate" in his "HyperCard Handbook" over 20 years ago.</p><p>The Newton was a step in that direction, as was Sony's MagicLink; after that (about 1995) nothing happened.</p><p>I agree with those who say that the smartphones have made such devices seem to be too little, too late.</p><p>At this point, what would a "magic slate" do that a smartphone with a larger screen, larger hd, and wifi capability couldn't/wouldn't do?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bill Atkinson outlined a plan for a " magic slate " in his " HyperCard Handbook " over 20 years ago.The Newton was a step in that direction , as was Sony 's MagicLink ; after that ( about 1995 ) nothing happened.I agree with those who say that the smartphones have made such devices seem to be too little , too late.At this point , what would a " magic slate " do that a smartphone with a larger screen , larger hd , and wifi capability could n't/would n't do ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bill Atkinson outlined a plan for a "magic slate" in his "HyperCard Handbook" over 20 years ago.The Newton was a step in that direction, as was Sony's MagicLink; after that (about 1995) nothing happened.I agree with those who say that the smartphones have made such devices seem to be too little, too late.At this point, what would a "magic slate" do that a smartphone with a larger screen, larger hd, and wifi capability couldn't/wouldn't do?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695234</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262969340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>A class of product exists in the marketplace, but has only received lukewarm adoption for a variety of reasons</i></p><p>To call tablet adoption "lukewarm" is quite an exaggeration. Tablets have bombed every time someone has tried it. A lot of that has to do with poor implementation, but the fact of the matter is that the tablet form factor can be very awkward in a lot of cases, and that's the first hurdle to get over.</p><p>Not to say that Apple's tablet won't be the most wonderful thing ever, but IMO there's no comparison here to smart phones or even MP3 players.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A class of product exists in the marketplace , but has only received lukewarm adoption for a variety of reasonsTo call tablet adoption " lukewarm " is quite an exaggeration .
Tablets have bombed every time someone has tried it .
A lot of that has to do with poor implementation , but the fact of the matter is that the tablet form factor can be very awkward in a lot of cases , and that 's the first hurdle to get over.Not to say that Apple 's tablet wo n't be the most wonderful thing ever , but IMO there 's no comparison here to smart phones or even MP3 players .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A class of product exists in the marketplace, but has only received lukewarm adoption for a variety of reasonsTo call tablet adoption "lukewarm" is quite an exaggeration.
Tablets have bombed every time someone has tried it.
A lot of that has to do with poor implementation, but the fact of the matter is that the tablet form factor can be very awkward in a lot of cases, and that's the first hurdle to get over.Not to say that Apple's tablet won't be the most wonderful thing ever, but IMO there's no comparison here to smart phones or even MP3 players.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697548</id>
	<title>all I want from apple is...</title>
	<author>AtomicDevice</author>
	<datestamp>1262978160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>home and end keys that go TO THE BEGINNING AND END OF A LINE.  LIKE EVERY SANE COMPUTER SYSTEM ON THE PLANET!?!?!?!?  what's that you say? I can just ctrl-shift-alt-apple-R-left arrow instead? IF I WANTED TO DO THAT KIND OF SHIT I'D JUST USE EMACS!!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>home and end keys that go TO THE BEGINNING AND END OF A LINE .
LIKE EVERY SANE COMPUTER SYSTEM ON THE PLANET ! ? ! ? ! ? ! ?
what 's that you say ?
I can just ctrl-shift-alt-apple-R-left arrow instead ?
IF I WANTED TO DO THAT KIND OF SHIT I 'D JUST USE EMACS ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>home and end keys that go TO THE BEGINNING AND END OF A LINE.
LIKE EVERY SANE COMPUTER SYSTEM ON THE PLANET!?!?!?!?
what's that you say?
I can just ctrl-shift-alt-apple-R-left arrow instead?
IF I WANTED TO DO THAT KIND OF SHIT I'D JUST USE EMACS!!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695600</id>
	<title>Is this the point at which we</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1262970540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>start talking about how Apple couldn't possible  do anything new and then argue that they might?<br>If so, can we just copy old post from when Apple was going to release an mp3 player and replace mp3 with tablet?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>start talking about how Apple could n't possible do anything new and then argue that they might ? If so , can we just copy old post from when Apple was going to release an mp3 player and replace mp3 with tablet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>start talking about how Apple couldn't possible  do anything new and then argue that they might?If so, can we just copy old post from when Apple was going to release an mp3 player and replace mp3 with tablet?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30698188</id>
	<title>Macbook Air Tablet?</title>
	<author>MrJynxx</author>
	<datestamp>1262980860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't seen any comments referencing the Macbook Air.  Everyone keeps stating the new tablet could, if it even exists be an oversized iphone/itouch.  But has anyone given any real serious thought into the macbook air, possibly reconfigred to have a touch screen on a swivel or something similar?  This could provide both a laptop with a keyboard, and possibly a touch tablet similar to other competing offerings, just built on OSX instead of the iphoneOS.  Meh, just a thought.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't seen any comments referencing the Macbook Air .
Everyone keeps stating the new tablet could , if it even exists be an oversized iphone/itouch .
But has anyone given any real serious thought into the macbook air , possibly reconfigred to have a touch screen on a swivel or something similar ?
This could provide both a laptop with a keyboard , and possibly a touch tablet similar to other competing offerings , just built on OSX instead of the iphoneOS .
Meh , just a thought .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't seen any comments referencing the Macbook Air.
Everyone keeps stating the new tablet could, if it even exists be an oversized iphone/itouch.
But has anyone given any real serious thought into the macbook air, possibly reconfigred to have a touch screen on a swivel or something similar?
This could provide both a laptop with a keyboard, and possibly a touch tablet similar to other competing offerings, just built on OSX instead of the iphoneOS.
Meh, just a thought.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695610</id>
	<title>ooooh!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262970600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>How long will it take before Dell, HP and the like copy this tablet innovation?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How long will it take before Dell , HP and the like copy this tablet innovation ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How long will it take before Dell, HP and the like copy this tablet innovation?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695358</id>
	<title>Re:LOL WUT?</title>
	<author>UnknowingFool</author>
	<datestamp>1262969760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>1) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it's working across a large set of diverse devices. ChromeOS will only make Apple's problem worse.</p></div></blockquote><p>Well if Android and Chrome catch up to Apple that doesn't mean it's a negative against Apple; it's a positive for Google.  Users may have more choice, but many consumers have no allegiance to any particular brand.  At the moment they use Apple because their products work well for them.</p><blockquote><div><p>2) If the expected price of $1000 is to be believed, it'll be a real turn off for anyone looking for a low cost MID. You can buy two (or three) netbooks for that price.</p></div></blockquote><p>Apple has never targeted the low end market for computers before and they are still successful. Given Apple's history of targeting the middle to the high-end, I don't see how a $1000 tablet will be doom for them.</p><blockquote><div><p>3) Let's be clear, if it's not e-ink or similar, this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReader</p></div></blockquote><p>Right now it's all speculation if there will even be a tablet, but how we do know if Apple doesn't come up with something better.  e-Readers use e-ink because it meets their ultra low power requirements.  But the drawback is lack of color.</p></div>
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<tokenext>1 ) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it 's working across a large set of diverse devices .
ChromeOS will only make Apple 's problem worse.Well if Android and Chrome catch up to Apple that does n't mean it 's a negative against Apple ; it 's a positive for Google .
Users may have more choice , but many consumers have no allegiance to any particular brand .
At the moment they use Apple because their products work well for them.2 ) If the expected price of $ 1000 is to be believed , it 'll be a real turn off for anyone looking for a low cost MID .
You can buy two ( or three ) netbooks for that price.Apple has never targeted the low end market for computers before and they are still successful .
Given Apple 's history of targeting the middle to the high-end , I do n't see how a $ 1000 tablet will be doom for them.3 ) Let 's be clear , if it 's not e-ink or similar , this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReaderRight now it 's all speculation if there will even be a tablet , but how we do know if Apple does n't come up with something better .
e-Readers use e-ink because it meets their ultra low power requirements .
But the drawback is lack of color .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Android quickly catching up with Apple in terms of usefulness and it's working across a large set of diverse devices.
ChromeOS will only make Apple's problem worse.Well if Android and Chrome catch up to Apple that doesn't mean it's a negative against Apple; it's a positive for Google.
Users may have more choice, but many consumers have no allegiance to any particular brand.
At the moment they use Apple because their products work well for them.2) If the expected price of $1000 is to be believed, it'll be a real turn off for anyone looking for a low cost MID.
You can buy two (or three) netbooks for that price.Apple has never targeted the low end market for computers before and they are still successful.
Given Apple's history of targeting the middle to the high-end, I don't see how a $1000 tablet will be doom for them.3) Let's be clear, if it's not e-ink or similar, this is in no way competition for the Kindle/Nook/Sony eReaderRight now it's all speculation if there will even be a tablet, but how we do know if Apple doesn't come up with something better.
e-Readers use e-ink because it meets their ultra low power requirements.
But the drawback is lack of color.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696414</id>
	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>overunderunderdone</author>
	<datestamp>1262973540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No they were not talking crap. Doing work in front of the client is a horrible idea unless the client is a better designer than you are, in which case each of you should consider a career change. Good design takes time which you're not going to take with a client sitting over your shoulder so even if the client leaves you alone you're going to be producing shoddy work. Even worse, their instant feedback ends up with you being nothing more than an input device, a glorified mouse providing the merely technical skills any trained monkey could master while they design it themselves <a href="http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design\_hell" title="theoatmeal.com">with these results</a> [theoatmeal.com]. For all but the absolute worst designers this is their least valuable skill, presumably what the client actually hired you for your design expertise not merely your knowledge of which menu is hiding the lens flare filter.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No they were not talking crap .
Doing work in front of the client is a horrible idea unless the client is a better designer than you are , in which case each of you should consider a career change .
Good design takes time which you 're not going to take with a client sitting over your shoulder so even if the client leaves you alone you 're going to be producing shoddy work .
Even worse , their instant feedback ends up with you being nothing more than an input device , a glorified mouse providing the merely technical skills any trained monkey could master while they design it themselves with these results [ theoatmeal.com ] .
For all but the absolute worst designers this is their least valuable skill , presumably what the client actually hired you for your design expertise not merely your knowledge of which menu is hiding the lens flare filter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No they were not talking crap.
Doing work in front of the client is a horrible idea unless the client is a better designer than you are, in which case each of you should consider a career change.
Good design takes time which you're not going to take with a client sitting over your shoulder so even if the client leaves you alone you're going to be producing shoddy work.
Even worse, their instant feedback ends up with you being nothing more than an input device, a glorified mouse providing the merely technical skills any trained monkey could master while they design it themselves with these results [theoatmeal.com].
For all but the absolute worst designers this is their least valuable skill, presumably what the client actually hired you for your design expertise not merely your knowledge of which menu is hiding the lens flare filter.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697692</id>
	<title>PADD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262978700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope it takes off and that the price is right. I'm sure the former depends on the latter, though.<br>Fanboys (and maybe even the fangirls) will go crazy when the first jailbreak equivalent allows them to customize sounds and interfaces. I can't wait to see a fully functioning PADD</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope it takes off and that the price is right .
I 'm sure the former depends on the latter , though.Fanboys ( and maybe even the fangirls ) will go crazy when the first jailbreak equivalent allows them to customize sounds and interfaces .
I ca n't wait to see a fully functioning PADD</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope it takes off and that the price is right.
I'm sure the former depends on the latter, though.Fanboys (and maybe even the fangirls) will go crazy when the first jailbreak equivalent allows them to customize sounds and interfaces.
I can't wait to see a fully functioning PADD</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697352</id>
	<title>Anecdote, meet counter-anecdote</title>
	<author>danaris</author>
	<datestamp>1262977380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My wife has been using the 21" Cintiq for five years now for her graphics work for her job.  She uses it all day, every day, and not only finds it the perfect tool for art, but also finds it vastly more intuitive for regular use than a mouse or trackpad.</p><p>Even I, who have no artistic talent whatsoever, find it easier to draw on a Cintiq than on either paper or a separate drawing tablet.</p><p>Maybe you just aren't all that good at using it?</p><p>Dan Aris</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My wife has been using the 21 " Cintiq for five years now for her graphics work for her job .
She uses it all day , every day , and not only finds it the perfect tool for art , but also finds it vastly more intuitive for regular use than a mouse or trackpad.Even I , who have no artistic talent whatsoever , find it easier to draw on a Cintiq than on either paper or a separate drawing tablet.Maybe you just are n't all that good at using it ? Dan Aris</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My wife has been using the 21" Cintiq for five years now for her graphics work for her job.
She uses it all day, every day, and not only finds it the perfect tool for art, but also finds it vastly more intuitive for regular use than a mouse or trackpad.Even I, who have no artistic talent whatsoever, find it easier to draw on a Cintiq than on either paper or a separate drawing tablet.Maybe you just aren't all that good at using it?Dan Aris</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696756</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262974980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Agreed, Apple takes chances and has stumbled. A lot. However, it's interesting to note that everything you mention is from the 90s. As far as I can see, the only real misstep this decade has been the Apple TV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed , Apple takes chances and has stumbled .
A lot .
However , it 's interesting to note that everything you mention is from the 90s .
As far as I can see , the only real misstep this decade has been the Apple TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed, Apple takes chances and has stumbled.
A lot.
However, it's interesting to note that everything you mention is from the 90s.
As far as I can see, the only real misstep this decade has been the Apple TV.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696836</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>onefriedrice</author>
	<datestamp>1262975220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Apple tries a lot of things and they fail more often than they succeed.</p></div><p>Really?  You've only listed seven things Apple has tried which have not been huge successes in the market, yet
</p><ol>
<li>they obviously have more than seven <i>successful</i> product lines.</li>
<li>they clearly are profitable.</li>
</ol><p>

You'll need to expand your list significantly if you want to approach proving your point.  I would love my company to "fail" as much as Apple has.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Apple tries a lot of things and they fail more often than they succeed.Really ?
You 've only listed seven things Apple has tried which have not been huge successes in the market , yet they obviously have more than seven successful product lines .
they clearly are profitable .
You 'll need to expand your list significantly if you want to approach proving your point .
I would love my company to " fail " as much as Apple has .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple tries a lot of things and they fail more often than they succeed.Really?
You've only listed seven things Apple has tried which have not been huge successes in the market, yet

they obviously have more than seven successful product lines.
they clearly are profitable.
You'll need to expand your list significantly if you want to approach proving your point.
I would love my company to "fail" as much as Apple has.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696050</id>
	<title>Everyone?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1262972100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>I don&rsquo;t. Nobody I know does. Nobody I know even knows it exists. Most don&rsquo;t even care.<br>I also don&rsquo;t care.</p><p>I generally don&rsquo;t buy products from certain companies. Amongst them Apple, Microsoft, Monsanto, Halliburton, Eli Lily, Elsevier, any **AA company (Sony gets a special mentioning for being in there twice), and so on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I don    t .
Nobody I know does .
Nobody I know even knows it exists .
Most don    t even care.I also don    t care.I generally don    t buy products from certain companies .
Amongst them Apple , Microsoft , Monsanto , Halliburton , Eli Lily , Elsevier , any * * AA company ( Sony gets a special mentioning for being in there twice ) , and so on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don’t.
Nobody I know does.
Nobody I know even knows it exists.
Most don’t even care.I also don’t care.I generally don’t buy products from certain companies.
Amongst them Apple, Microsoft, Monsanto, Halliburton, Eli Lily, Elsevier, any **AA company (Sony gets a special mentioning for being in there twice), and so on.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263461160000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I would drawn on tablet if it would not react to my hand but only the pen and other tools very accurate way. More like a LED display top of a tablet. Drawing on only a tablet PC is just a pain in the neck. Much easier to use old tools when drawing to paper and afterward scanning to computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would drawn on tablet if it would not react to my hand but only the pen and other tools very accurate way .
More like a LED display top of a tablet .
Drawing on only a tablet PC is just a pain in the neck .
Much easier to use old tools when drawing to paper and afterward scanning to computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would drawn on tablet if it would not react to my hand but only the pen and other tools very accurate way.
More like a LED display top of a tablet.
Drawing on only a tablet PC is just a pain in the neck.
Much easier to use old tools when drawing to paper and afterward scanning to computer.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30700650</id>
	<title>Re:If it can't fit in my pocket...</title>
	<author>93 Escort Wagon</author>
	<datestamp>1262947980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Give <i>me</i> an implanted (without surgery, though - like some kind of pill)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>Microsoft Research is working on something along these lines already. However it's not a pill - it's a suppository.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Give me an implanted ( without surgery , though - like some kind of pill ) ...Microsoft Research is working on something along these lines already .
However it 's not a pill - it 's a suppository .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Give me an implanted (without surgery, though - like some kind of pill) ...Microsoft Research is working on something along these lines already.
However it's not a pill - it's a suppository.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30700498</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262947320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>I'm in California.  There's tons of anticipation about it around me.  GTFO with your australo-centrism, and return your geek card on your way out, "News for nerds" is clearly above you and the crowd you roll with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm in California .
There 's tons of anticipation about it around me .
GTFO with your australo-centrism , and return your geek card on your way out , " News for nerds " is clearly above you and the crowd you roll with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm in California.
There's tons of anticipation about it around me.
GTFO with your australo-centrism, and return your geek card on your way out, "News for nerds" is clearly above you and the crowd you roll with.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695720</id>
	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>Dog-Cow</author>
	<datestamp>1262970960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or maybe because OS X is superior to Windows for automation tasks.  Not everyone sits in front of one application every hour of the day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or maybe because OS X is superior to Windows for automation tasks .
Not everyone sits in front of one application every hour of the day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or maybe because OS X is superior to Windows for automation tasks.
Not everyone sits in front of one application every hour of the day.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30698524</id>
	<title>Re:Hype and Results</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262982360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How many of these failures were under Jobs?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many of these failures were under Jobs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many of these failures were under Jobs?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695748</id>
	<title>I'm a Psychic, Apparently</title>
	<author>Zero\_DgZ</author>
	<datestamp>1262971080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This just goes to show that the world is finally listening to what I've been saying for YEARS, namely we need to ditch all this tied-to-a-carrier smartphone BS and bring back the PDA. Small device, pile of processing power, able to run general purpose software, buttload of storage, touch screen, go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This just goes to show that the world is finally listening to what I 've been saying for YEARS , namely we need to ditch all this tied-to-a-carrier smartphone BS and bring back the PDA .
Small device , pile of processing power , able to run general purpose software , buttload of storage , touch screen , go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This just goes to show that the world is finally listening to what I've been saying for YEARS, namely we need to ditch all this tied-to-a-carrier smartphone BS and bring back the PDA.
Small device, pile of processing power, able to run general purpose software, buttload of storage, touch screen, go.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30702808</id>
	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262958540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>One Word. Cintiq from Wacom.</p></div><p>Three, sir.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>One Word .
Cintiq from Wacom.Three , sir .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One Word.
Cintiq from Wacom.Three, sir.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696018</id>
	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>Kenshin</author>
	<datestamp>1262971980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This sorta applies to IT work, as well. After configuring and installing a server, the boss said something along the lines of "I watched you staring at a screen doing nothing half of the time. Why should I pay you for 6 hours?" (Because, apparently, waiting for software going through a lengthy install on a piece of shit cheap "server" is "free time".)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This sorta applies to IT work , as well .
After configuring and installing a server , the boss said something along the lines of " I watched you staring at a screen doing nothing half of the time .
Why should I pay you for 6 hours ?
" ( Because , apparently , waiting for software going through a lengthy install on a piece of shit cheap " server " is " free time " .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This sorta applies to IT work, as well.
After configuring and installing a server, the boss said something along the lines of "I watched you staring at a screen doing nothing half of the time.
Why should I pay you for 6 hours?
" (Because, apparently, waiting for software going through a lengthy install on a piece of shit cheap "server" is "free time".
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696608</id>
	<title>Tablet Makers</title>
	<author>suomynonAyletamitlU</author>
	<datestamp>1262974320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1) Previous tablet makers have shown little imagination around UIs and how a touchscreen changes things.</p></div><p>Previously, a tablet maker had to write drivers and shitty little programs to make their touchscreen work with an existing OS.  However, you can't really make a tablet work well using a windowing system designed for a mouse and keyboard; you just can't.  Buttons work well, but titlebars don't, menus often don't (concealed by your hand), things like alt texts don't, you can't mouse over screen edges to make hidden menus pop up or do similar things, there are trouble with any parts of the system when you have to get the pointer to something a few pixels wide, etc.  So unless improved features are built into the OS, or you hack an open windowing system like X/KDE/Gnome to accommodate it, using existing OSes is a bad idea.</p><p>It requires someone like Apple or Microsoft to modify a full OS enough to really natively support a tablet, and Microsoft doesn't get that sort of thing.  They're decent at making things work and they don't look terrible, but they don't innovate, and I think they know it as much as anyone.  Apple is the only one who could reasonably be expected to completely rethink their OS enough to accommodate a new paradigm like that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Previous tablet makers have shown little imagination around UIs and how a touchscreen changes things.Previously , a tablet maker had to write drivers and shitty little programs to make their touchscreen work with an existing OS .
However , you ca n't really make a tablet work well using a windowing system designed for a mouse and keyboard ; you just ca n't .
Buttons work well , but titlebars do n't , menus often do n't ( concealed by your hand ) , things like alt texts do n't , you ca n't mouse over screen edges to make hidden menus pop up or do similar things , there are trouble with any parts of the system when you have to get the pointer to something a few pixels wide , etc .
So unless improved features are built into the OS , or you hack an open windowing system like X/KDE/Gnome to accommodate it , using existing OSes is a bad idea.It requires someone like Apple or Microsoft to modify a full OS enough to really natively support a tablet , and Microsoft does n't get that sort of thing .
They 're decent at making things work and they do n't look terrible , but they do n't innovate , and I think they know it as much as anyone .
Apple is the only one who could reasonably be expected to completely rethink their OS enough to accommodate a new paradigm like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Previous tablet makers have shown little imagination around UIs and how a touchscreen changes things.Previously, a tablet maker had to write drivers and shitty little programs to make their touchscreen work with an existing OS.
However, you can't really make a tablet work well using a windowing system designed for a mouse and keyboard; you just can't.
Buttons work well, but titlebars don't, menus often don't (concealed by your hand), things like alt texts don't, you can't mouse over screen edges to make hidden menus pop up or do similar things, there are trouble with any parts of the system when you have to get the pointer to something a few pixels wide, etc.
So unless improved features are built into the OS, or you hack an open windowing system like X/KDE/Gnome to accommodate it, using existing OSes is a bad idea.It requires someone like Apple or Microsoft to modify a full OS enough to really natively support a tablet, and Microsoft doesn't get that sort of thing.
They're decent at making things work and they don't look terrible, but they don't innovate, and I think they know it as much as anyone.
Apple is the only one who could reasonably be expected to completely rethink their OS enough to accommodate a new paradigm like that.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30698548</id>
	<title>Re:If it can't fit in my pocket...</title>
	<author>DaveyJJ</author>
	<datestamp>1262982480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Give me an implanted (without surgery, though - like some kind of pill), thought-operated organic quantum computer<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..."?<br> <br>

You're limited to a single meat sack in only one point of the space-time continuty? Next you'll be telling us you only have five senses. You're still in the Stone Age, buddy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Give me an implanted ( without surgery , though - like some kind of pill ) , thought-operated organic quantum computer ... " ?
You 're limited to a single meat sack in only one point of the space-time continuty ?
Next you 'll be telling us you only have five senses .
You 're still in the Stone Age , buddy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Give me an implanted (without surgery, though - like some kind of pill), thought-operated organic quantum computer ..."?
You're limited to a single meat sack in only one point of the space-time continuty?
Next you'll be telling us you only have five senses.
You're still in the Stone Age, buddy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696688</id>
	<title>Re:iSlate?</title>
	<author>cynvision</author>
	<datestamp>1262974620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Slate" just seems to be around. Read or listen to The Better Part of Valor (Confederation Series) by Tanya Huff and people use PDA computers that link to desks and recharge and upload content from them.

I'm more amused that the Apple tablet was branded unicorn-ware or some such by a popular tech podcaster. Call it the Newton Plus and be done!</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Slate " just seems to be around .
Read or listen to The Better Part of Valor ( Confederation Series ) by Tanya Huff and people use PDA computers that link to desks and recharge and upload content from them .
I 'm more amused that the Apple tablet was branded unicorn-ware or some such by a popular tech podcaster .
Call it the Newton Plus and be done !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Slate" just seems to be around.
Read or listen to The Better Part of Valor (Confederation Series) by Tanya Huff and people use PDA computers that link to desks and recharge and upload content from them.
I'm more amused that the Apple tablet was branded unicorn-ware or some such by a popular tech podcaster.
Call it the Newton Plus and be done!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696490</id>
	<title>Re:If it can't fit in my pocket...</title>
	<author>mbourgon</author>
	<datestamp>1262973900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To be fair, because of the perceived failure of the Newton (personally, I'm still waiting for a Newton Assistant app for my iPhone), Steve is probably quite aware how important the form factor is.  Can't imagine they'd release it if it weren't Desirable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair , because of the perceived failure of the Newton ( personally , I 'm still waiting for a Newton Assistant app for my iPhone ) , Steve is probably quite aware how important the form factor is .
Ca n't imagine they 'd release it if it were n't Desirable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair, because of the perceived failure of the Newton (personally, I'm still waiting for a Newton Assistant app for my iPhone), Steve is probably quite aware how important the form factor is.
Can't imagine they'd release it if it weren't Desirable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30701338</id>
	<title>Obligatory XKCD</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1262951040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You may want to start here: <a href="http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/surgery.png" title="xkcd.com">http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/surgery.png</a> [xkcd.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You may want to start here : http : //imgs.xkcd.com/comics/surgery.png [ xkcd.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may want to start here: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/surgery.png [xkcd.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697406</id>
	<title>Will Apple 'foil' the competition again?</title>
	<author>okani3000</author>
	<datestamp>1262977560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My anticipation is in whether Apple will again surpass and leapfrog the competition, or will it end its streak of golden/winning devices with this "iSlate" item. To me the whole category of a "slate computer" is too narrow and of course, as all of you know, how many times "slate computers" were duds in the past. My interest is in whether Apple will, again, "foil" their main competitors. To compliment, this buzz has reached such levels that only an outright knockout product revealed would do- anything else wouldn't be good enough. Lets see...</htmltext>
<tokenext>My anticipation is in whether Apple will again surpass and leapfrog the competition , or will it end its streak of golden/winning devices with this " iSlate " item .
To me the whole category of a " slate computer " is too narrow and of course , as all of you know , how many times " slate computers " were duds in the past .
My interest is in whether Apple will , again , " foil " their main competitors .
To compliment , this buzz has reached such levels that only an outright knockout product revealed would do- anything else would n't be good enough .
Lets see.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My anticipation is in whether Apple will again surpass and leapfrog the competition, or will it end its streak of golden/winning devices with this "iSlate" item.
To me the whole category of a "slate computer" is too narrow and of course, as all of you know, how many times "slate computers" were duds in the past.
My interest is in whether Apple will, again, "foil" their main competitors.
To compliment, this buzz has reached such levels that only an outright knockout product revealed would do- anything else wouldn't be good enough.
Lets see...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695124</id>
	<title>More like a tricorder?</title>
	<author>Tired and Emotional</author>
	<datestamp>1262968920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>So will it come with a warning to not wear a red shirt while using one?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So will it come with a warning to not wear a red shirt while using one ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So will it come with a warning to not wear a red shirt while using one?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696708</id>
	<title>What is the point of a tablet PC</title>
	<author>assertation</author>
	<datestamp>1262974680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The only thing I can think of that would be nice about a tablet pc is that it would let you read the internet while laying on a couch.</p><p>Is there something else to justify the hype?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only thing I can think of that would be nice about a tablet pc is that it would let you read the internet while laying on a couch.Is there something else to justify the hype ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only thing I can think of that would be nice about a tablet pc is that it would let you read the internet while laying on a couch.Is there something else to justify the hype?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30697224</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>mrmoj0</author>
	<datestamp>1262976900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm a self-diagnosed apple fanboy, and I really don't understand a device like the rumored tablet could improve my life.   I've seen many, many attempts by other companies (and purchased a few) but have always been extremely underwhelmed;  even with bad devices I can't see what would have "fixed" them.</p><p>With the iPhone, I was positive that all my existing phones sucked, and Apple could improve the situation.  They did that.   With this, I don't know what device they're improving, nor what task would make me want to pick up a slate rather than a MacBook.</p><p>For sure it will be pretty and all that, but I'm not going to pay it much attention until Apple shows me something that can scratch an itch that I don't know I have.   As a fanboy, I really hope they do just that, but I'm not holding my breath.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a self-diagnosed apple fanboy , and I really do n't understand a device like the rumored tablet could improve my life .
I 've seen many , many attempts by other companies ( and purchased a few ) but have always been extremely underwhelmed ; even with bad devices I ca n't see what would have " fixed " them.With the iPhone , I was positive that all my existing phones sucked , and Apple could improve the situation .
They did that .
With this , I do n't know what device they 're improving , nor what task would make me want to pick up a slate rather than a MacBook.For sure it will be pretty and all that , but I 'm not going to pay it much attention until Apple shows me something that can scratch an itch that I do n't know I have .
As a fanboy , I really hope they do just that , but I 'm not holding my breath .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a self-diagnosed apple fanboy, and I really don't understand a device like the rumored tablet could improve my life.
I've seen many, many attempts by other companies (and purchased a few) but have always been extremely underwhelmed;  even with bad devices I can't see what would have "fixed" them.With the iPhone, I was positive that all my existing phones sucked, and Apple could improve the situation.
They did that.
With this, I don't know what device they're improving, nor what task would make me want to pick up a slate rather than a MacBook.For sure it will be pretty and all that, but I'm not going to pay it much attention until Apple shows me something that can scratch an itch that I don't know I have.
As a fanboy, I really hope they do just that, but I'm not holding my breath.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696028</id>
	<title>Re:If it can't fit in my pocket...</title>
	<author>nmg196</author>
	<datestamp>1262972040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You need paper and pencil then. It will exactly fit your requirements.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You need paper and pencil then .
It will exactly fit your requirements .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You need paper and pencil then.
It will exactly fit your requirements.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30700346</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262946480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anti-religion, too, is a religion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anti-religion , too , is a religion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anti-religion, too, is a religion.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695912</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262971620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The only thing worse than an Apple Fanboi is the disgusting demeanor the anti-Apple EVERYTHING idiots have.</p><p>Please stop patting yourself on the back for having an opinion. Many have differing opinions, and some can back them up with reasons why. Myself, I am just sick of the false ideology gospel people spew as if they matter. It's not a popularity contest, so put down your pom-poms on both teams. If you have a justification for your fanaticism, don't be afraid to offer something new, but keep the vapid rhetoric as one of those "inside" dialogues, please.</p><p>What you said about "wait and see how much impact it has" is wholly accurate and appropriate. If the historically cool reception past tablets have gotten is any indication, this may be another Apple Newton flop. My opinion, however, is that the media hype is intentionally focused in the US as a "test market", and if it succeeds here, the rest of the world will be eagerly trying to get their hands all over one based on the nearly "free" initial feedback. Your "GTFO yourself" comment, however? Right back atcha, my friend. Please remember -- forum trolls don't convince anyone that their statements are anything but ugly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only thing worse than an Apple Fanboi is the disgusting demeanor the anti-Apple EVERYTHING idiots have.Please stop patting yourself on the back for having an opinion .
Many have differing opinions , and some can back them up with reasons why .
Myself , I am just sick of the false ideology gospel people spew as if they matter .
It 's not a popularity contest , so put down your pom-poms on both teams .
If you have a justification for your fanaticism , do n't be afraid to offer something new , but keep the vapid rhetoric as one of those " inside " dialogues , please.What you said about " wait and see how much impact it has " is wholly accurate and appropriate .
If the historically cool reception past tablets have gotten is any indication , this may be another Apple Newton flop .
My opinion , however , is that the media hype is intentionally focused in the US as a " test market " , and if it succeeds here , the rest of the world will be eagerly trying to get their hands all over one based on the nearly " free " initial feedback .
Your " GTFO yourself " comment , however ?
Right back atcha , my friend .
Please remember -- forum trolls do n't convince anyone that their statements are anything but ugly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only thing worse than an Apple Fanboi is the disgusting demeanor the anti-Apple EVERYTHING idiots have.Please stop patting yourself on the back for having an opinion.
Many have differing opinions, and some can back them up with reasons why.
Myself, I am just sick of the false ideology gospel people spew as if they matter.
It's not a popularity contest, so put down your pom-poms on both teams.
If you have a justification for your fanaticism, don't be afraid to offer something new, but keep the vapid rhetoric as one of those "inside" dialogues, please.What you said about "wait and see how much impact it has" is wholly accurate and appropriate.
If the historically cool reception past tablets have gotten is any indication, this may be another Apple Newton flop.
My opinion, however, is that the media hype is intentionally focused in the US as a "test market", and if it succeeds here, the rest of the world will be eagerly trying to get their hands all over one based on the nearly "free" initial feedback.
Your "GTFO yourself" comment, however?
Right back atcha, my friend.
Please remember -- forum trolls don't convince anyone that their statements are anything but ugly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696998</id>
	<title>Re:flash?</title>
	<author>Dog-Cow</author>
	<datestamp>1262975940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just like the iPhone and iPod Touch flopped?</p><p>Apple haters eschew logic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just like the iPhone and iPod Touch flopped ? Apple haters eschew logic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just like the iPhone and iPod Touch flopped?Apple haters eschew logic.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Mac fans are brainwashed</title>
	<author>zymano</author>
	<datestamp>1262944740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They will buy anything that man spraypaints silver.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They will buy anything that man spraypaints silver .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They will buy anything that man spraypaints silver.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30699004</id>
	<title>Re:I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262984220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the original article, they pointed out nobody cared about tablets, and then the iPhone was a big hit.  Maybe it's because the "tablet" computers were Windows based slow and heavy dogs.  The iPhone(I don't have one) woke some people up and said, "gee, my old Windows tablet sucked, but maybe an Apple one will be good."  Maybe it will be.  I had a tablet computer that ran the Operating System of DOS and "Windows for Pen 1.0"  I used to connect a keyboard to it for most of the stuff I wanted to do.  I'm sure people who love their iPhones will like having something larger that they can use similarly.</p><p>I have chuckled at the large TV type touchscreen monitors on TV news and weather shows.  Now, instead of standing in front of a green screen, people actually look away from the cameras to focus on an area on a monitor where they "touch" the monitor to have it show some simple item or items that could just as easily have been done with a slide show and a remote control, and probably have been better looking as well.  But all the major networks use them, probably to show that they have the latest thing, even if it's inappropriate for use in their situation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the original article , they pointed out nobody cared about tablets , and then the iPhone was a big hit .
Maybe it 's because the " tablet " computers were Windows based slow and heavy dogs .
The iPhone ( I do n't have one ) woke some people up and said , " gee , my old Windows tablet sucked , but maybe an Apple one will be good .
" Maybe it will be .
I had a tablet computer that ran the Operating System of DOS and " Windows for Pen 1.0 " I used to connect a keyboard to it for most of the stuff I wanted to do .
I 'm sure people who love their iPhones will like having something larger that they can use similarly.I have chuckled at the large TV type touchscreen monitors on TV news and weather shows .
Now , instead of standing in front of a green screen , people actually look away from the cameras to focus on an area on a monitor where they " touch " the monitor to have it show some simple item or items that could just as easily have been done with a slide show and a remote control , and probably have been better looking as well .
But all the major networks use them , probably to show that they have the latest thing , even if it 's inappropriate for use in their situation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the original article, they pointed out nobody cared about tablets, and then the iPhone was a big hit.
Maybe it's because the "tablet" computers were Windows based slow and heavy dogs.
The iPhone(I don't have one) woke some people up and said, "gee, my old Windows tablet sucked, but maybe an Apple one will be good.
"  Maybe it will be.
I had a tablet computer that ran the Operating System of DOS and "Windows for Pen 1.0"  I used to connect a keyboard to it for most of the stuff I wanted to do.
I'm sure people who love their iPhones will like having something larger that they can use similarly.I have chuckled at the large TV type touchscreen monitors on TV news and weather shows.
Now, instead of standing in front of a green screen, people actually look away from the cameras to focus on an area on a monitor where they "touch" the monitor to have it show some simple item or items that could just as easily have been done with a slide show and a remote control, and probably have been better looking as well.
But all the major networks use them, probably to show that they have the latest thing, even if it's inappropriate for use in their situation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696702</id>
	<title>Re:1 word.</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1262974620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your tutor was correct. the more mysterious something is, the more people are likely to pay for it.</p><p>Bad example:</p><p>I know haw to do basic plumbing. So when I need a job to do I cringe at how much a plumber charges for very simple tasks. This is also why I look for the cheapest cost. Because running a snake is simple and any plumber can do it.<br>More complex jobs are different.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your tutor was correct .
the more mysterious something is , the more people are likely to pay for it.Bad example : I know haw to do basic plumbing .
So when I need a job to do I cringe at how much a plumber charges for very simple tasks .
This is also why I look for the cheapest cost .
Because running a snake is simple and any plumber can do it.More complex jobs are different .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your tutor was correct.
the more mysterious something is, the more people are likely to pay for it.Bad example:I know haw to do basic plumbing.
So when I need a job to do I cringe at how much a plumber charges for very simple tasks.
This is also why I look for the cheapest cost.
Because running a snake is simple and any plumber can do it.More complex jobs are different.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696714</id>
	<title>OT: your sig</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1262974680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"We are now living in the Satire Age, where life has become a parody of itself."</p><p>Are you saying life has jumped the shark?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" We are now living in the Satire Age , where life has become a parody of itself .
" Are you saying life has jumped the shark ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"We are now living in the Satire Age, where life has become a parody of itself.
"Are you saying life has jumped the shark?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695052</id>
	<title>Leaks build expectations and...</title>
	<author>alfredo</author>
	<datestamp>1262968560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apple knew they'd be releasing after CES, so they had to play the expectation game to depress sales of competing products. Would you buy a tablet now if you knew that a company that has a track record of being a game changer is going to release a tablet?

We know the design will be elegant, and we know through patent searches their tablet could have some interesting features.

What will it do?  Think of what market they haven't disrupted? That is a clue to the possible functions of the tablet.

Will they even release a tablet?  We won't know until the Steve says "one more thing."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple knew they 'd be releasing after CES , so they had to play the expectation game to depress sales of competing products .
Would you buy a tablet now if you knew that a company that has a track record of being a game changer is going to release a tablet ?
We know the design will be elegant , and we know through patent searches their tablet could have some interesting features .
What will it do ?
Think of what market they have n't disrupted ?
That is a clue to the possible functions of the tablet .
Will they even release a tablet ?
We wo n't know until the Steve says " one more thing .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple knew they'd be releasing after CES, so they had to play the expectation game to depress sales of competing products.
Would you buy a tablet now if you knew that a company that has a track record of being a game changer is going to release a tablet?
We know the design will be elegant, and we know through patent searches their tablet could have some interesting features.
What will it do?
Think of what market they haven't disrupted?
That is a clue to the possible functions of the tablet.
Will they even release a tablet?
We won't know until the Steve says "one more thing.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30696452</id>
	<title>Everyone?</title>
	<author>Rich Klein</author>
	<datestamp>1262973720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I, for one, could hardly care less about an Apple tablet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I , for one , could hardly care less about an Apple tablet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I, for one, could hardly care less about an Apple tablet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694830</id>
	<title>too big</title>
	<author>fortunatus</author>
	<datestamp>1262967840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I doubt there's "latent demand for device bigger than smartphone smaller than laptop".  It either fits in a pocket or doesn't: IPhone already fits in, netbooks &amp; laptops already fit "out".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt there 's " latent demand for device bigger than smartphone smaller than laptop " .
It either fits in a pocket or does n't : IPhone already fits in , netbooks &amp; laptops already fit " out " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt there's "latent demand for device bigger than smartphone smaller than laptop".
It either fits in a pocket or doesn't: IPhone already fits in, netbooks &amp; laptops already fit "out".</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30700456</id>
	<title>Re:Leaks build expectations and...</title>
	<author>Nightspirit</author>
	<datestamp>1262947080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a tablet user myself who also likes mac products, I would probably skip the first couple of generations of mac tablets anyways. For instance, MS has learned through several OSes how to do handwriting recognition and now it actually works very well in windows 7, and I'm skeptical Apple is going to get that right the first time. I'm sure the UI will be better and they will have some nifty features compared to PCs, but the heart of a tablet is handwriting recognition.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a tablet user myself who also likes mac products , I would probably skip the first couple of generations of mac tablets anyways .
For instance , MS has learned through several OSes how to do handwriting recognition and now it actually works very well in windows 7 , and I 'm skeptical Apple is going to get that right the first time .
I 'm sure the UI will be better and they will have some nifty features compared to PCs , but the heart of a tablet is handwriting recognition .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a tablet user myself who also likes mac products, I would probably skip the first couple of generations of mac tablets anyways.
For instance, MS has learned through several OSes how to do handwriting recognition and now it actually works very well in windows 7, and I'm skeptical Apple is going to get that right the first time.
I'm sure the UI will be better and they will have some nifty features compared to PCs, but the heart of a tablet is handwriting recognition.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694706</id>
	<title>I hate fake media hype</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262967420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"the deafening roar of anticipation"  I'm in Australia right, a moderately wealthy fairly technologically developed nation. We're no Japan, but we're no Sudan either. No one I talk to gives a crap about this. My friend is doing a graphic arts diploma and he doesnt even know anyone who cares about this. It will come, if it is good some people will like it. Apple is not a religion, they are a technology company. GTFO with your fake hype.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" the deafening roar of anticipation " I 'm in Australia right , a moderately wealthy fairly technologically developed nation .
We 're no Japan , but we 're no Sudan either .
No one I talk to gives a crap about this .
My friend is doing a graphic arts diploma and he doesnt even know anyone who cares about this .
It will come , if it is good some people will like it .
Apple is not a religion , they are a technology company .
GTFO with your fake hype .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"the deafening roar of anticipation"  I'm in Australia right, a moderately wealthy fairly technologically developed nation.
We're no Japan, but we're no Sudan either.
No one I talk to gives a crap about this.
My friend is doing a graphic arts diploma and he doesnt even know anyone who cares about this.
It will come, if it is good some people will like it.
Apple is not a religion, they are a technology company.
GTFO with your fake hype.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30699160</id>
	<title>Re:Article is myopic, overlooking past examples</title>
	<author>Tom</author>
	<datestamp>1262941680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, the article is right on the mark, and your comment demonstrates very elegantly why: Yes, there were tablets, pen-computers, whatever, long before the current hype around the concept. But it's all been niche stuff, or in short: Nobody much cared.</p><p>The whole point is to ask the question: Why do people care when Apple announces a tablet? It's not the tablet itself that makes them care, because otherwise we would've seen that same hype for prior tablets from other companies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , the article is right on the mark , and your comment demonstrates very elegantly why : Yes , there were tablets , pen-computers , whatever , long before the current hype around the concept .
But it 's all been niche stuff , or in short : Nobody much cared.The whole point is to ask the question : Why do people care when Apple announces a tablet ?
It 's not the tablet itself that makes them care , because otherwise we would 've seen that same hype for prior tablets from other companies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, the article is right on the mark, and your comment demonstrates very elegantly why: Yes, there were tablets, pen-computers, whatever, long before the current hype around the concept.
But it's all been niche stuff, or in short: Nobody much cared.The whole point is to ask the question: Why do people care when Apple announces a tablet?
It's not the tablet itself that makes them care, because otherwise we would've seen that same hype for prior tablets from other companies.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30695144</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694786</id>
	<title>Everyone?</title>
	<author>Linker3000</author>
	<datestamp>1262967720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm part of that group and I have no interest in the thing at all.</p><p>Just Sayin'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm part of that group and I have no interest in the thing at all.Just Sayin'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm part of that group and I have no interest in the thing at all.Just Sayin'</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_1421238.30694772</id>
	<title>Oh, my poor rotator cuffs</title>
	<author>paiute</author>
	<datestamp>1262967720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tablet shmablet. Do you see the ads on TV for the Dell computer with touchscreen? Can you imagine the hurt you would be in after an hour or so with your arm raised up off the desk to reach the screen?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tablet shmablet .
Do you see the ads on TV for the Dell computer with touchscreen ?
Can you imagine the hurt you would be in after an hour or so with your arm raised up off the desk to reach the screen ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tablet shmablet.
Do you see the ads on TV for the Dell computer with touchscreen?
Can you imagine the hurt you would be in after an hour or so with your arm raised up off the desk to reach the screen?</sentencetext>
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