<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_07_1812250</id>
	<title>Cellphone Radiation May Protect Brain From Alzheimers</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1262889780000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>We've discussed <a href="//mobile.slashdot.org/story/09/12/21/1614221/Legislator-Wants-Cancer-Warnings-For-Cell-Phones">cellphones</a> and <a href="//science.slashdot.org/story/09/12/04/1625241/Cell-Phones-Dont-Increase-Chances-of-Brain-Cancer">cancer</a> many times. Here's a new angle: reader olddotter sends in a Reuters article suggesting that <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100107/hl\_nm/us\_alzheimers\_cellphones">cellphone radiation may protect the brain from Alzheimer's disease</a>. <i>"At the end of that time, they found cellphone exposure erased a build-up of beta amyloid, a protein that serves as a hallmark of Alzheimer's disease. The Alzheimer's mice showed improvement and had reversal of their brain pathology..."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've discussed cellphones and cancer many times .
Here 's a new angle : reader olddotter sends in a Reuters article suggesting that cellphone radiation may protect the brain from Alzheimer 's disease .
" At the end of that time , they found cellphone exposure erased a build-up of beta amyloid , a protein that serves as a hallmark of Alzheimer 's disease .
The Alzheimer 's mice showed improvement and had reversal of their brain pathology... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've discussed cellphones and cancer many times.
Here's a new angle: reader olddotter sends in a Reuters article suggesting that cellphone radiation may protect the brain from Alzheimer's disease.
"At the end of that time, they found cellphone exposure erased a build-up of beta amyloid, a protein that serves as a hallmark of Alzheimer's disease.
The Alzheimer's mice showed improvement and had reversal of their brain pathology..."</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685746</id>
	<title>GOATSE MAY PROTECT THE ARSE FROM HEMORROIDS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262893500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>We've discussed lemonparty.org and meatspin many times. Here's a new angle: reader first post troll sends in a Tubgirl article suggesting that Goatse may protect the arse from hemorroids.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've discussed lemonparty.org and meatspin many times .
Here 's a new angle : reader first post troll sends in a Tubgirl article suggesting that Goatse may protect the arse from hemorroids .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've discussed lemonparty.org and meatspin many times.
Here's a new angle: reader first post troll sends in a Tubgirl article suggesting that Goatse may protect the arse from hemorroids.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686018</id>
	<title>So ... it DOES affects the brain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262894580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If this study is confirmed it should also prove that cellphones DOES affect the brain. You may not get Alzheimer but, it can, temporally or definitive, affects how your brain works. Like making bad decisions while using your cell phone or get some kind of dementia.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If this study is confirmed it should also prove that cellphones DOES affect the brain .
You may not get Alzheimer but , it can , temporally or definitive , affects how your brain works .
Like making bad decisions while using your cell phone or get some kind of dementia .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If this study is confirmed it should also prove that cellphones DOES affect the brain.
You may not get Alzheimer but, it can, temporally or definitive, affects how your brain works.
Like making bad decisions while using your cell phone or get some kind of dementia.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686532</id>
	<title>So, if you're over 60...</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1262897340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...spend a few minutes each day with your head in the microwave.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...spend a few minutes each day with your head in the microwave .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...spend a few minutes each day with your head in the microwave.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686492</id>
	<title>Not reassuring...</title>
	<author>metrometro</author>
	<datestamp>1262897160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If we accept for a moment that cellphone radiation (very low-dose but longterm exposure microwaves) is zapping proteins related to Alzheimers, I'm not going to jump up and down and get happy. Rather the opposite: we've confirmed that, in this case, supposedly benign EM radiation (non-ionizing, etc) can have important, medically significant effects on how our brains function. And we're currently zapping a hell of lot of people with this stuff. And we have really no idea what those effects are.</p><p>Unless my math is wrong, plugging in a headset on a 1m cord reduces your exposure by a whole lot compared to keeping the antenna shoved up against your head. Seems like a good idea until we get this sorted out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If we accept for a moment that cellphone radiation ( very low-dose but longterm exposure microwaves ) is zapping proteins related to Alzheimers , I 'm not going to jump up and down and get happy .
Rather the opposite : we 've confirmed that , in this case , supposedly benign EM radiation ( non-ionizing , etc ) can have important , medically significant effects on how our brains function .
And we 're currently zapping a hell of lot of people with this stuff .
And we have really no idea what those effects are.Unless my math is wrong , plugging in a headset on a 1m cord reduces your exposure by a whole lot compared to keeping the antenna shoved up against your head .
Seems like a good idea until we get this sorted out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we accept for a moment that cellphone radiation (very low-dose but longterm exposure microwaves) is zapping proteins related to Alzheimers, I'm not going to jump up and down and get happy.
Rather the opposite: we've confirmed that, in this case, supposedly benign EM radiation (non-ionizing, etc) can have important, medically significant effects on how our brains function.
And we're currently zapping a hell of lot of people with this stuff.
And we have really no idea what those effects are.Unless my math is wrong, plugging in a headset on a 1m cord reduces your exposure by a whole lot compared to keeping the antenna shoved up against your head.
Seems like a good idea until we get this sorted out.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30688158</id>
	<title>Re:Mice</title>
	<author>cntThnkofAname</author>
	<datestamp>1262861880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>haha, I went rushing to this post hoping no one had said that phrase yet! In all seriousness though, how does this study take into account the totally different lifestyles of newer generations. Maybe it's like OP said and we have richer mental life, or maybe it's people are starting to take the vitamins... It could be a number of things that are actually causing this trend.

I saw in my statistics last semester a real test trying to say that the number of TV's in a country has an affect on the average life expectancy. I could plainly see that as the TV's per house hold increased so did the life expectancy. Then my instruction explain "the phrase" and showed life expectancy also increasing with the amount of doctors per person. Correlation does not mean SQUAT!</htmltext>
<tokenext>haha , I went rushing to this post hoping no one had said that phrase yet !
In all seriousness though , how does this study take into account the totally different lifestyles of newer generations .
Maybe it 's like OP said and we have richer mental life , or maybe it 's people are starting to take the vitamins... It could be a number of things that are actually causing this trend .
I saw in my statistics last semester a real test trying to say that the number of TV 's in a country has an affect on the average life expectancy .
I could plainly see that as the TV 's per house hold increased so did the life expectancy .
Then my instruction explain " the phrase " and showed life expectancy also increasing with the amount of doctors per person .
Correlation does not mean SQUAT !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>haha, I went rushing to this post hoping no one had said that phrase yet!
In all seriousness though, how does this study take into account the totally different lifestyles of newer generations.
Maybe it's like OP said and we have richer mental life, or maybe it's people are starting to take the vitamins... It could be a number of things that are actually causing this trend.
I saw in my statistics last semester a real test trying to say that the number of TV's in a country has an affect on the average life expectancy.
I could plainly see that as the TV's per house hold increased so did the life expectancy.
Then my instruction explain "the phrase" and showed life expectancy also increasing with the amount of doctors per person.
Correlation does not mean SQUAT!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685916</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686158</id>
	<title>Re:scary</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1262895360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This proves that cellphone radiation actually interacts with matter in the brain... which is something to be afraid of, in my opinion.</p></div>


</blockquote><p>Nono, this is GOOD effects, not bad ones. Cellphone radiation has no bad effects, none whatsoever, but it has lots of beneficial effects. While we're on the subject, I highly recommend the <a href="http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/quackcures/revigat.htm" title="orau.org">Revigator</a> [orau.org] for greater health.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This proves that cellphone radiation actually interacts with matter in the brain... which is something to be afraid of , in my opinion .
Nono , this is GOOD effects , not bad ones .
Cellphone radiation has no bad effects , none whatsoever , but it has lots of beneficial effects .
While we 're on the subject , I highly recommend the Revigator [ orau.org ] for greater health .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This proves that cellphone radiation actually interacts with matter in the brain... which is something to be afraid of, in my opinion.
Nono, this is GOOD effects, not bad ones.
Cellphone radiation has no bad effects, none whatsoever, but it has lots of beneficial effects.
While we're on the subject, I highly recommend the Revigator [orau.org] for greater health.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685912</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686280</id>
	<title>In other news that white people like...</title>
	<author>d34dluk3</author>
	<datestamp>1262896080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Drinking lattes reduces your risk of Parkinson's disease</htmltext>
<tokenext>Drinking lattes reduces your risk of Parkinson 's disease</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Drinking lattes reduces your risk of Parkinson's disease</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686212</id>
	<title>Sibiu</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262895660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://ordis.ro/" title="ordis.ro" rel="nofollow">Sisteme securitate</a> [ordis.ro]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sisteme securitate [ ordis.ro ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sisteme securitate [ordis.ro]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686294</id>
	<title>Re:Choice to Make</title>
	<author>conureman</author>
	<datestamp>1262896200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>RTFA Use the cell phone after onset of Alzheimer's.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>RTFA Use the cell phone after onset of Alzheimer 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RTFA Use the cell phone after onset of Alzheimer's.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685756</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686224</id>
	<title>Re:Choice to Make</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262895720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>...there's no correlation of cell phones to brain cancer. What coin flipping is necessary? Cell phones are not actually known to cause any health problems by any valid study, and this research strongly suggests that they might help with Alzheimer's. Seems like a pretty good bet to me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...there 's no correlation of cell phones to brain cancer .
What coin flipping is necessary ?
Cell phones are not actually known to cause any health problems by any valid study , and this research strongly suggests that they might help with Alzheimer 's .
Seems like a pretty good bet to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...there's no correlation of cell phones to brain cancer.
What coin flipping is necessary?
Cell phones are not actually known to cause any health problems by any valid study, and this research strongly suggests that they might help with Alzheimer's.
Seems like a pretty good bet to me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685756</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685794</id>
	<title>Grampa is getting a cell phone!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262893620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder how many sheeple are now going to run out and get cell phones for their elderly parents/grandparents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how many sheeple are now going to run out and get cell phones for their elderly parents/grandparents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how many sheeple are now going to run out and get cell phones for their elderly parents/grandparents.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687144</id>
	<title>If only...</title>
	<author>zorro-z</author>
	<datestamp>1262856900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds good to me. Now, where did I leave that cell phone...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds good to me .
Now , where did I leave that cell phone.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds good to me.
Now, where did I leave that cell phone...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687470</id>
	<title>Re:scary</title>
	<author>dr2chase</author>
	<datestamp>1262858520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think I disagree mildly.  The outside of the potato attenuates the radiation; and it is not as strong (or as hot) in the middle as it is on the surface.  I have certainly had the experience of microwaved potatoes (especially larger ones) being cooked on the outside layers, but not the center.  So, mouse-head small, human-head big, you're going to get some attenuation of the signal.
<br> <br>
As far as the Faraday cage experiment goes, (a) I'll bet you have not actually tried this, and (b) the cell phone can work with the signal that gets in through a small crack between cage and head.  I know about (b) because I've played tinfoil-RFID-shield games (using my phone and prox sensor for work as proxies for an RFID tag) and if the bag is open much, the phone gets a signal.  (By-the-way, one of those aluminized Fritos bags work great, if you fold the end over a couple of times and clip it shut).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think I disagree mildly .
The outside of the potato attenuates the radiation ; and it is not as strong ( or as hot ) in the middle as it is on the surface .
I have certainly had the experience of microwaved potatoes ( especially larger ones ) being cooked on the outside layers , but not the center .
So , mouse-head small , human-head big , you 're going to get some attenuation of the signal .
As far as the Faraday cage experiment goes , ( a ) I 'll bet you have not actually tried this , and ( b ) the cell phone can work with the signal that gets in through a small crack between cage and head .
I know about ( b ) because I 've played tinfoil-RFID-shield games ( using my phone and prox sensor for work as proxies for an RFID tag ) and if the bag is open much , the phone gets a signal .
( By-the-way , one of those aluminized Fritos bags work great , if you fold the end over a couple of times and clip it shut ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think I disagree mildly.
The outside of the potato attenuates the radiation; and it is not as strong (or as hot) in the middle as it is on the surface.
I have certainly had the experience of microwaved potatoes (especially larger ones) being cooked on the outside layers, but not the center.
So, mouse-head small, human-head big, you're going to get some attenuation of the signal.
As far as the Faraday cage experiment goes, (a) I'll bet you have not actually tried this, and (b) the cell phone can work with the signal that gets in through a small crack between cage and head.
I know about (b) because I've played tinfoil-RFID-shield games (using my phone and prox sensor for work as proxies for an RFID tag) and if the bag is open much, the phone gets a signal.
(By-the-way, one of those aluminized Fritos bags work great, if you fold the end over a couple of times and clip it shut).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686716</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686384</id>
	<title>Re:Choice to Make</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262896680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except that I've heard of numerous studies showing no link between cell phones and cancer, and no studies showing they do. From TFA:</p><blockquote><div><p>Groups such as the World Health Organization, the American Cancer Society, and the National Institutes of Health, have all concluded that scientific evidence to date does not support any adverse health effects associated with the use of cellphones.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Except that I 've heard of numerous studies showing no link between cell phones and cancer , and no studies showing they do .
From TFA : Groups such as the World Health Organization , the American Cancer Society , and the National Institutes of Health , have all concluded that scientific evidence to date does not support any adverse health effects associated with the use of cellphones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except that I've heard of numerous studies showing no link between cell phones and cancer, and no studies showing they do.
From TFA:Groups such as the World Health Organization, the American Cancer Society, and the National Institutes of Health, have all concluded that scientific evidence to date does not support any adverse health effects associated with the use of cellphones.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685756</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687838</id>
	<title>So, headseat laws kill grandma's brain cells?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262860320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tsk. Should have left well enough alone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tsk .
Should have left well enough alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tsk.
Should have left well enough alone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686238</id>
	<title>Quick!</title>
	<author>peacefinder</author>
	<datestamp>1262895840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everyone mail their old cell phones to Sir Terry Pratchett, stat!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone mail their old cell phones to Sir Terry Pratchett , stat !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone mail their old cell phones to Sir Terry Pratchett, stat!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30688556</id>
	<title>Re:Now try keeping the mice warm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262863740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The authors realise this, and provide graphs of brain temperature in the article. They also mention:</p><p>"Whether the robust anti-aggregating ability of<br>EMF exposure is dependent or independent of the increased brain temperatures induced by long-term EMF exposure requires additional studies."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The authors realise this , and provide graphs of brain temperature in the article .
They also mention : " Whether the robust anti-aggregating ability ofEMF exposure is dependent or independent of the increased brain temperatures induced by long-term EMF exposure requires additional studies .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The authors realise this, and provide graphs of brain temperature in the article.
They also mention:"Whether the robust anti-aggregating ability ofEMF exposure is dependent or independent of the increased brain temperatures induced by long-term EMF exposure requires additional studies.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30691972</id>
	<title>Re:Ironic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262943420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>P.S. At least I think that's irony. Every time I think I've got it down, someone shows me a new rule for what is or isn't irony. My apologies to the grammar Nazis in advance if I have it wrong.</p></div><p>Just ask Alanis Morisette.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>P.S .
At least I think that 's irony .
Every time I think I 've got it down , someone shows me a new rule for what is or is n't irony .
My apologies to the grammar Nazis in advance if I have it wrong.Just ask Alanis Morisette .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>P.S.
At least I think that's irony.
Every time I think I've got it down, someone shows me a new rule for what is or isn't irony.
My apologies to the grammar Nazis in advance if I have it wrong.Just ask Alanis Morisette.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687450</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686244</id>
	<title>A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262895900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>In many related discussions here on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/., oh so many readers have, in various ways, blatantly slandered the idea that EM radiation in the microwave spectrum also has a directly, altering effect on tissue and matter in general - to whatever the extent may be. So, what's your stance now? I have the idea that this lot refused to believe this when it was in the context of f.e. "cellphones being bad for you", but just might be open the idea now that some "good" effect is proven from the EMR. If that's the case, why are these people changing their minds all of the sudden? Why accept this, but not the original arguments regarding microwave radiation?</htmltext>
<tokenext>In many related discussions here on /. , oh so many readers have , in various ways , blatantly slandered the idea that EM radiation in the microwave spectrum also has a directly , altering effect on tissue and matter in general - to whatever the extent may be .
So , what 's your stance now ?
I have the idea that this lot refused to believe this when it was in the context of f.e .
" cellphones being bad for you " , but just might be open the idea now that some " good " effect is proven from the EMR .
If that 's the case , why are these people changing their minds all of the sudden ?
Why accept this , but not the original arguments regarding microwave radiation ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In many related discussions here on /., oh so many readers have, in various ways, blatantly slandered the idea that EM radiation in the microwave spectrum also has a directly, altering effect on tissue and matter in general - to whatever the extent may be.
So, what's your stance now?
I have the idea that this lot refused to believe this when it was in the context of f.e.
"cellphones being bad for you", but just might be open the idea now that some "good" effect is proven from the EMR.
If that's the case, why are these people changing their minds all of the sudden?
Why accept this, but not the original arguments regarding microwave radiation?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687544</id>
	<title>Thanks For Your Help: Now I'm Going To</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262858880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>put MAMA in the microwave<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... for ten minutes.</p><p>That should clear her thinking.   BITCH.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>put MAMA in the microwave ... for ten minutes.That should clear her thinking .
BITCH .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>put MAMA in the microwave ... for ten minutes.That should clear her thinking.
BITCH.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687046</id>
	<title>Re:Choice to Make</title>
	<author>hardburn</author>
	<datestamp>1262856480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Cell phones are not actually known to cause any health problems by any valid study . . . </p></div><p>Not quite right, but this fact shouldn't be abused by those claiming a health risk. If something is sufficiently studied, then there will always be outlier studies that got everything right but show the opposite results all the others. There are, in fact, a few well-run studies that show a correlation between health risks and cell phones, but these can be simply discounted against the overwhelming number of studies against.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cell phones are not actually known to cause any health problems by any valid study .
. .
Not quite right , but this fact should n't be abused by those claiming a health risk .
If something is sufficiently studied , then there will always be outlier studies that got everything right but show the opposite results all the others .
There are , in fact , a few well-run studies that show a correlation between health risks and cell phones , but these can be simply discounted against the overwhelming number of studies against .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cell phones are not actually known to cause any health problems by any valid study .
. .
Not quite right, but this fact shouldn't be abused by those claiming a health risk.
If something is sufficiently studied, then there will always be outlier studies that got everything right but show the opposite results all the others.
There are, in fact, a few well-run studies that show a correlation between health risks and cell phones, but these can be simply discounted against the overwhelming number of studies against.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686568</id>
	<title>Re:Now try keeping the mice warm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262897520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word</p></div></blockquote><p>Fail. Real geeks love languages and don't seek to dumb them down. Your membership has been revoked, effective immediately. Kindly turn in your card and post your final admission of ultimate failure, along with your promise to stop trolling your betters on slashdot.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For all intensive purposes , " whom " is no longer a wordFail .
Real geeks love languages and do n't seek to dumb them down .
Your membership has been revoked , effective immediately .
Kindly turn in your card and post your final admission of ultimate failure , along with your promise to stop trolling your betters on slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a wordFail.
Real geeks love languages and don't seek to dumb them down.
Your membership has been revoked, effective immediately.
Kindly turn in your card and post your final admission of ultimate failure, along with your promise to stop trolling your betters on slashdot.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686690</id>
	<title>Several ways radiation is helpfull</title>
	<author>gurps\_npc</author>
	<datestamp>1262854800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are quite a few studies showing low level radiation may be helpfull.   Most of the scientists involved think the effects are related to cellular suicide.  That is, each cell has a suicide mechanism that lets it kill itself if it 'thinks' (I use that word to represent some form biological test that evolution created that effectively make a decision) it is about to become a tumer.
<p>
So in effect, our cells have evolved to suicide if they dectect mutations.  Tumers and many other problems are caused when the mutations are just below the suicide threshold.  The radiation adds just a bit more mutations, of the easily detectable kind, pushing borderline cells into suicide, while leaving healthy cells with a relatively minor, low level damage not suffecient to cause problems.
</p><p>This theory might support the idea that Alzheimers is some kind of low-level mutation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are quite a few studies showing low level radiation may be helpfull .
Most of the scientists involved think the effects are related to cellular suicide .
That is , each cell has a suicide mechanism that lets it kill itself if it 'thinks ' ( I use that word to represent some form biological test that evolution created that effectively make a decision ) it is about to become a tumer .
So in effect , our cells have evolved to suicide if they dectect mutations .
Tumers and many other problems are caused when the mutations are just below the suicide threshold .
The radiation adds just a bit more mutations , of the easily detectable kind , pushing borderline cells into suicide , while leaving healthy cells with a relatively minor , low level damage not suffecient to cause problems .
This theory might support the idea that Alzheimers is some kind of low-level mutation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are quite a few studies showing low level radiation may be helpfull.
Most of the scientists involved think the effects are related to cellular suicide.
That is, each cell has a suicide mechanism that lets it kill itself if it 'thinks' (I use that word to represent some form biological test that evolution created that effectively make a decision) it is about to become a tumer.
So in effect, our cells have evolved to suicide if they dectect mutations.
Tumers and many other problems are caused when the mutations are just below the suicide threshold.
The radiation adds just a bit more mutations, of the easily detectable kind, pushing borderline cells into suicide, while leaving healthy cells with a relatively minor, low level damage not suffecient to cause problems.
This theory might support the idea that Alzheimers is some kind of low-level mutation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30688584</id>
	<title>Indirectly</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1262863860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It only works indirectly. The radiation gives you brain cancer and kills you before you could develop Alzheimers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It only works indirectly .
The radiation gives you brain cancer and kills you before you could develop Alzheimers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It only works indirectly.
The radiation gives you brain cancer and kills you before you could develop Alzheimers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686098</id>
	<title>Re:Now try keeping the mice warm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262895060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Any luck finding even an abstract? I looked ont he publisher's website but could only find a press release. I'm first wondering whether they even had a second circle of cages with an antenna in the center, but never turned on (and perhaps in a large Faraday cage). In the press release, they speculate about stimulation and blood flow from the EM, but this seems to warrant an experiment to determine its validity. As you say, it could simply be due to increased brain temperature. I mean, elevated temperature, differing things happening, duh!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Any luck finding even an abstract ?
I looked ont he publisher 's website but could only find a press release .
I 'm first wondering whether they even had a second circle of cages with an antenna in the center , but never turned on ( and perhaps in a large Faraday cage ) .
In the press release , they speculate about stimulation and blood flow from the EM , but this seems to warrant an experiment to determine its validity .
As you say , it could simply be due to increased brain temperature .
I mean , elevated temperature , differing things happening , duh !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any luck finding even an abstract?
I looked ont he publisher's website but could only find a press release.
I'm first wondering whether they even had a second circle of cages with an antenna in the center, but never turned on (and perhaps in a large Faraday cage).
In the press release, they speculate about stimulation and blood flow from the EM, but this seems to warrant an experiment to determine its validity.
As you say, it could simply be due to increased brain temperature.
I mean, elevated temperature, differing things happening, duh!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30697498</id>
	<title>Re:Mice</title>
	<author>mcohrs</author>
	<datestamp>1262977980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I showed the article to mywife - she was wondering who the mice called - Mickey, Minnie??</htmltext>
<tokenext>I showed the article to mywife - she was wondering who the mice called - Mickey , Minnie ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I showed the article to mywife - she was wondering who the mice called - Mickey, Minnie?
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686642</id>
	<title>Re:scary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262897760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This proves that cellphone radiation actually interacts with matter in the brain... which is something to be afraid of, in my opinion.</p></div><p>Why?

</p><p>The automatic assumption of many is that any environmental change is necessarily negative.  But there's no logical reason to expect that.  Change is just change, and it can go in either direction.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This proves that cellphone radiation actually interacts with matter in the brain... which is something to be afraid of , in my opinion.Why ?
The automatic assumption of many is that any environmental change is necessarily negative .
But there 's no logical reason to expect that .
Change is just change , and it can go in either direction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This proves that cellphone radiation actually interacts with matter in the brain... which is something to be afraid of, in my opinion.Why?
The automatic assumption of many is that any environmental change is necessarily negative.
But there's no logical reason to expect that.
Change is just change, and it can go in either direction.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30688642</id>
	<title>I hope this is false</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262864100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If this is true then I suggest everyone really stop using their cell phones.</p><p>The question of Brain Damage from cell phones has not been proven... as far as I know. (I'm not looking for flame on this).</p><p>However, this appears to be a clear scientifically repeatable experiment. Which shows that cell phones do effect/change the chemistry in the brain in some way. Whether the total effect is beneficial or detrimental to the average user cannot be known, would require more study.</p><p>So why would anyone ever consider this to be a good thing? ie: I'd never start medication designed for heart disease patients just as a preventative measure.</p><p>Anyhow, I sure hope this study is shown to be false. Cause my boss says I need to have a cell phone to work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If this is true then I suggest everyone really stop using their cell phones.The question of Brain Damage from cell phones has not been proven... as far as I know .
( I 'm not looking for flame on this ) .However , this appears to be a clear scientifically repeatable experiment .
Which shows that cell phones do effect/change the chemistry in the brain in some way .
Whether the total effect is beneficial or detrimental to the average user can not be known , would require more study.So why would anyone ever consider this to be a good thing ?
ie : I 'd never start medication designed for heart disease patients just as a preventative measure.Anyhow , I sure hope this study is shown to be false .
Cause my boss says I need to have a cell phone to work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If this is true then I suggest everyone really stop using their cell phones.The question of Brain Damage from cell phones has not been proven... as far as I know.
(I'm not looking for flame on this).However, this appears to be a clear scientifically repeatable experiment.
Which shows that cell phones do effect/change the chemistry in the brain in some way.
Whether the total effect is beneficial or detrimental to the average user cannot be known, would require more study.So why would anyone ever consider this to be a good thing?
ie: I'd never start medication designed for heart disease patients just as a preventative measure.Anyhow, I sure hope this study is shown to be false.
Cause my boss says I need to have a cell phone to work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687206</id>
	<title>this doesn't mean much</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262857200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All it means is that they've found a way to wipe out a contributing factor to Alzheimer's. It doesn't mean every nut with a cell phone needs to use up their minutes to stave off their dementia. What it does mean is it will lead to other studies which will find a way to package this effect into a medicine, which can then be fed to the mice in order to verify its effects. If that works, it may lead to clinical trials on actual Alzheimer's patients.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All it means is that they 've found a way to wipe out a contributing factor to Alzheimer 's .
It does n't mean every nut with a cell phone needs to use up their minutes to stave off their dementia .
What it does mean is it will lead to other studies which will find a way to package this effect into a medicine , which can then be fed to the mice in order to verify its effects .
If that works , it may lead to clinical trials on actual Alzheimer 's patients .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All it means is that they've found a way to wipe out a contributing factor to Alzheimer's.
It doesn't mean every nut with a cell phone needs to use up their minutes to stave off their dementia.
What it does mean is it will lead to other studies which will find a way to package this effect into a medicine, which can then be fed to the mice in order to verify its effects.
If that works, it may lead to clinical trials on actual Alzheimer's patients.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685916</id>
	<title>Re:Mice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262894160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thank you! Thank you!</p><p>Finally, somebody has been able to point out that "correlation does not imply causation" without using that goddamn phrase.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you !
Thank you ! Finally , somebody has been able to point out that " correlation does not imply causation " without using that goddamn phrase .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you!
Thank you!Finally, somebody has been able to point out that "correlation does not imply causation" without using that goddamn phrase.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686924</id>
	<title>Re:scary</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1262855880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>This proves that cellphone radiation actually interacts with matter in the brain</i></p><p>So does learning. The question is whether the interaction is helpful, harmful, or neutral.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This proves that cellphone radiation actually interacts with matter in the brainSo does learning .
The question is whether the interaction is helpful , harmful , or neutral .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This proves that cellphone radiation actually interacts with matter in the brainSo does learning.
The question is whether the interaction is helpful, harmful, or neutral.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686882</id>
	<title>Re:scary</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1262855700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does alzheimers affect one specific, more central part of the brain?  Do most brain cancers spring up more from some regions of the brain than others?</p><p>Meningiomas are brain cancers from the meninges, the covering of the brain, so I'd assume that if cell phone radiation could penetrate through the skull and -if- it did lead to increased risk of cancer, meningiomas are one it could cause.  On the other hand, my understanding of adult neuron production is that they come from deeper in the brain, by the ventricles.  I'd guess that a medulloblastoma would be more likely to come from such a site, as this is where the neuronal precursor/ neuronal stem cells are, so if cell phone radiation didn't penetrate that far, you wouldn't see an increased risk for that type. I don't know much about where glial cells of various flavors replicate, I'd hazard a guess that they replicate in most regions of the brain.</p><p><a href="http://www.alzinfo.org/images/understanding-diagnosis.gif" title="alzinfo.org">This image I found of an alzheimer brain scan compared to a normal brain scan</a> [alzinfo.org] makes it look like the area primarily affected isn't right by your ears.</p><p>Anyway, given that they probably strapped active cell phones to these mices heads for days at a time, I wouldn't expect much difference on the alzheimers from using a cell phone to talk occasionally.  Same thing with cancer.  Maybe if you live with a cell phone right next to your ear, you wouldn't be decreasing your chances of alzheimers, and you'd only slightly if at all be increasing your risk of certain types of brain cancer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does alzheimers affect one specific , more central part of the brain ?
Do most brain cancers spring up more from some regions of the brain than others ? Meningiomas are brain cancers from the meninges , the covering of the brain , so I 'd assume that if cell phone radiation could penetrate through the skull and -if- it did lead to increased risk of cancer , meningiomas are one it could cause .
On the other hand , my understanding of adult neuron production is that they come from deeper in the brain , by the ventricles .
I 'd guess that a medulloblastoma would be more likely to come from such a site , as this is where the neuronal precursor/ neuronal stem cells are , so if cell phone radiation did n't penetrate that far , you would n't see an increased risk for that type .
I do n't know much about where glial cells of various flavors replicate , I 'd hazard a guess that they replicate in most regions of the brain.This image I found of an alzheimer brain scan compared to a normal brain scan [ alzinfo.org ] makes it look like the area primarily affected is n't right by your ears.Anyway , given that they probably strapped active cell phones to these mices heads for days at a time , I would n't expect much difference on the alzheimers from using a cell phone to talk occasionally .
Same thing with cancer .
Maybe if you live with a cell phone right next to your ear , you would n't be decreasing your chances of alzheimers , and you 'd only slightly if at all be increasing your risk of certain types of brain cancer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does alzheimers affect one specific, more central part of the brain?
Do most brain cancers spring up more from some regions of the brain than others?Meningiomas are brain cancers from the meninges, the covering of the brain, so I'd assume that if cell phone radiation could penetrate through the skull and -if- it did lead to increased risk of cancer, meningiomas are one it could cause.
On the other hand, my understanding of adult neuron production is that they come from deeper in the brain, by the ventricles.
I'd guess that a medulloblastoma would be more likely to come from such a site, as this is where the neuronal precursor/ neuronal stem cells are, so if cell phone radiation didn't penetrate that far, you wouldn't see an increased risk for that type.
I don't know much about where glial cells of various flavors replicate, I'd hazard a guess that they replicate in most regions of the brain.This image I found of an alzheimer brain scan compared to a normal brain scan [alzinfo.org] makes it look like the area primarily affected isn't right by your ears.Anyway, given that they probably strapped active cell phones to these mices heads for days at a time, I wouldn't expect much difference on the alzheimers from using a cell phone to talk occasionally.
Same thing with cancer.
Maybe if you live with a cell phone right next to your ear, you wouldn't be decreasing your chances of alzheimers, and you'd only slightly if at all be increasing your risk of certain types of brain cancer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686112</id>
	<title>This sounds like a Simpson's parody</title>
	<author>GodfatherofSoul</author>
	<datestamp>1262895120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mr. Smithers trying to convince the townsfolk that his nuclear powered cell phones aren't dangerous.  I bet they taste like chocolate, too!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mr. Smithers trying to convince the townsfolk that his nuclear powered cell phones are n't dangerous .
I bet they taste like chocolate , too !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mr. Smithers trying to convince the townsfolk that his nuclear powered cell phones aren't dangerous.
I bet they taste like chocolate, too!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686012</id>
	<title>Medical science is bunk</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262894520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, not entirely, but substantially, unfortunately.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , not entirely , but substantially , unfortunately .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, not entirely, but substantially, unfortunately.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685986</id>
	<title>If you give a mouse a cell phone,</title>
	<author>MrEricSir</author>
	<datestamp>1262894460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He's going to ask for a Bluetooth headset.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's going to ask for a Bluetooth headset .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's going to ask for a Bluetooth headset.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686416</id>
	<title>Re:Mice</title>
	<author>Darkness404</author>
	<datestamp>1262896860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>...Except this experiment used mice and does more or less prove causation.....</htmltext>
<tokenext>...Except this experiment used mice and does more or less prove causation.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...Except this experiment used mice and does more or less prove causation.....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30692260</id>
	<title>Which desease to choose?</title>
	<author>Nephrite</author>
	<datestamp>1262947500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Alzheimers or cancer? What is better? Any ideas?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Alzheimers or cancer ?
What is better ?
Any ideas ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alzheimers or cancer?
What is better?
Any ideas?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686242</id>
	<title>Re:Fixing Forgetfull Grandma...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262895900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Duct Tape, check<br>Cell phones, check</p><p>So we should go buy a bunch of those pre-paid cell phones and duct tape them to grandma's head and hope to heck her memory gets better.</p></div><p>If you over do it and grandma tries to eat your brain, just remember I told you so.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Duct Tape , checkCell phones , checkSo we should go buy a bunch of those pre-paid cell phones and duct tape them to grandma 's head and hope to heck her memory gets better.If you over do it and grandma tries to eat your brain , just remember I told you so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Duct Tape, checkCell phones, checkSo we should go buy a bunch of those pre-paid cell phones and duct tape them to grandma's head and hope to heck her memory gets better.If you over do it and grandma tries to eat your brain, just remember I told you so.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687116</id>
	<title>Re:A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiati</title>
	<author>Cutter892</author>
	<datestamp>1262856780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>As a lot of people have stated the science still needs to be done and come to a conclusion. Though cellphones are the least of are worries from EMR. We have  are friendly neighborhood star that bombards us with all kinds of energies that get through are magnitosphere, if you live in any populated area you have all the local radio stations blasting out radio waves in insane levels of power, cell towers, the earth it self due to are core and the production of the magnitosphere. Powerlines, and generally anything that caries a current. Of course you could just walk around in a faraday suit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a lot of people have stated the science still needs to be done and come to a conclusion .
Though cellphones are the least of are worries from EMR .
We have are friendly neighborhood star that bombards us with all kinds of energies that get through are magnitosphere , if you live in any populated area you have all the local radio stations blasting out radio waves in insane levels of power , cell towers , the earth it self due to are core and the production of the magnitosphere .
Powerlines , and generally anything that caries a current .
Of course you could just walk around in a faraday suit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a lot of people have stated the science still needs to be done and come to a conclusion.
Though cellphones are the least of are worries from EMR.
We have  are friendly neighborhood star that bombards us with all kinds of energies that get through are magnitosphere, if you live in any populated area you have all the local radio stations blasting out radio waves in insane levels of power, cell towers, the earth it self due to are core and the production of the magnitosphere.
Powerlines, and generally anything that caries a current.
Of course you could just walk around in a faraday suit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686842</id>
	<title>diabolical !</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262855520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It not only gives you cancer, it also makes sure you can enjoy the complete experience !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It not only gives you cancer , it also makes sure you can enjoy the complete experience !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It not only gives you cancer, it also makes sure you can enjoy the complete experience !</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686452</id>
	<title>Re:Hello, Mickey?</title>
	<author>Attila Dimedici</author>
	<datestamp>1262897040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I recall seeing a reference to something similar in humans a few weeks ago in an article discussing the proposed Maine law requiring warnings of possible brain cancer on cellphones. That article talked about the fact that there were mutliple long term studies looking into correlation between brain cancer and cell phone usage and they all found no increased brain cancer in cell phone users. One of the studies showed a minor, but statistically significant drop in dementia among cell phone users. The scientists running the study dismissed it because they didn't have any explanation and they had not controlled for other factors that are known to correlate to dementia.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I recall seeing a reference to something similar in humans a few weeks ago in an article discussing the proposed Maine law requiring warnings of possible brain cancer on cellphones .
That article talked about the fact that there were mutliple long term studies looking into correlation between brain cancer and cell phone usage and they all found no increased brain cancer in cell phone users .
One of the studies showed a minor , but statistically significant drop in dementia among cell phone users .
The scientists running the study dismissed it because they did n't have any explanation and they had not controlled for other factors that are known to correlate to dementia .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recall seeing a reference to something similar in humans a few weeks ago in an article discussing the proposed Maine law requiring warnings of possible brain cancer on cellphones.
That article talked about the fact that there were mutliple long term studies looking into correlation between brain cancer and cell phone usage and they all found no increased brain cancer in cell phone users.
One of the studies showed a minor, but statistically significant drop in dementia among cell phone users.
The scientists running the study dismissed it because they didn't have any explanation and they had not controlled for other factors that are known to correlate to dementia.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686566</id>
	<title>Re:A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiati</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262897520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes. The inconsistency is annoying and points towards an anti-science pro-gadget attitude that makes me want to read elsewhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
The inconsistency is annoying and points towards an anti-science pro-gadget attitude that makes me want to read elsewhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
The inconsistency is annoying and points towards an anti-science pro-gadget attitude that makes me want to read elsewhere.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686244</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685756</id>
	<title>Choice to Make</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262893500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>So I can not use a cell phone and may get alzheimers or I can use a cell phone and not get alzheimers but could get brain cancer<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...... time to flip a coin.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So I can not use a cell phone and may get alzheimers or I can use a cell phone and not get alzheimers but could get brain cancer ...... time to flip a coin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I can not use a cell phone and may get alzheimers or I can use a cell phone and not get alzheimers but could get brain cancer ...... time to flip a coin.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686330</id>
	<title>Won't matter.</title>
	<author>Mekkah</author>
	<datestamp>1262896380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It doesn't matter, if you talk on a cell phone you will die in a car crash AND murder someone.  I saw it on tv, clearly I won't have time to get Alzheimer's.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't matter , if you talk on a cell phone you will die in a car crash AND murder someone .
I saw it on tv , clearly I wo n't have time to get Alzheimer 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't matter, if you talk on a cell phone you will die in a car crash AND murder someone.
I saw it on tv, clearly I won't have time to get Alzheimer's.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30689112</id>
	<title>It may also cause you to grow a tail</title>
	<author>Snaller</author>
	<datestamp>1262866980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and horns.</p><p>Beware radiation danger.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and horns.Beware radiation danger .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and horns.Beware radiation danger.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686878</id>
	<title>Re:A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiati</title>
	<author>Xeno man</author>
	<datestamp>1262855700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's easy. After years of studies and studies on mice and on people, there has been no consensus. Some studies say they do, others say they don't. Some say they have no frigging clue. Given that the theory of "cell phones cause cancer" is popular only through fear of the invisible and unknown forces by the ignorant masses, a slightly more intelligent group of people who visit<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. choose to dismiss said theories because they choose to not be afraid of every rumor they hear of. I bet most people here didn't believe the video of the cell phones popping a single kernel of pop corn. Well maybe some did but I know I didn't.

Now about this new study, the general response has been either to make jokes or basically said, "That is interesting, I look forward to hearing more about it later." I haven't seen any posts of people shouting out "Cell phones are good for you!" In the future there will be more studies, maybe some on people, where we will get a clearer picture. If the results are just a muddy as cancer studies then we will dismiss the healing power of cell phones just as easily.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's easy .
After years of studies and studies on mice and on people , there has been no consensus .
Some studies say they do , others say they do n't .
Some say they have no frigging clue .
Given that the theory of " cell phones cause cancer " is popular only through fear of the invisible and unknown forces by the ignorant masses , a slightly more intelligent group of people who visit / .
choose to dismiss said theories because they choose to not be afraid of every rumor they hear of .
I bet most people here did n't believe the video of the cell phones popping a single kernel of pop corn .
Well maybe some did but I know I did n't .
Now about this new study , the general response has been either to make jokes or basically said , " That is interesting , I look forward to hearing more about it later .
" I have n't seen any posts of people shouting out " Cell phones are good for you !
" In the future there will be more studies , maybe some on people , where we will get a clearer picture .
If the results are just a muddy as cancer studies then we will dismiss the healing power of cell phones just as easily .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's easy.
After years of studies and studies on mice and on people, there has been no consensus.
Some studies say they do, others say they don't.
Some say they have no frigging clue.
Given that the theory of "cell phones cause cancer" is popular only through fear of the invisible and unknown forces by the ignorant masses, a slightly more intelligent group of people who visit /.
choose to dismiss said theories because they choose to not be afraid of every rumor they hear of.
I bet most people here didn't believe the video of the cell phones popping a single kernel of pop corn.
Well maybe some did but I know I didn't.
Now about this new study, the general response has been either to make jokes or basically said, "That is interesting, I look forward to hearing more about it later.
" I haven't seen any posts of people shouting out "Cell phones are good for you!
" In the future there will be more studies, maybe some on people, where we will get a clearer picture.
If the results are just a muddy as cancer studies then we will dismiss the healing power of cell phones just as easily.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30693684</id>
	<title>Re:MRI effect?</title>
	<author>pimproot</author>
	<datestamp>1262962680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As mentioned by the previous post, Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) is an active area of research, although some of it flaky.</p><p>More cogent to your case, however, MRI itself has been rigorously shown to have anti-depressant effects and also relieve bi-polar disorder. The MRI used was an EP-MRSI. It would be interesting to find out if this is the kind your wife experienced.</p><p><a href="http://harvardmagazine.com/2004/05/magnetically-lifted-spir.html" title="harvardmagazine.com" rel="nofollow">http://harvardmagazine.com/2004/05/magnetically-lifted-spir.html</a> [harvardmagazine.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As mentioned by the previous post , Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation ( TMS ) is an active area of research , although some of it flaky.More cogent to your case , however , MRI itself has been rigorously shown to have anti-depressant effects and also relieve bi-polar disorder .
The MRI used was an EP-MRSI .
It would be interesting to find out if this is the kind your wife experienced.http : //harvardmagazine.com/2004/05/magnetically-lifted-spir.html [ harvardmagazine.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As mentioned by the previous post, Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) is an active area of research, although some of it flaky.More cogent to your case, however, MRI itself has been rigorously shown to have anti-depressant effects and also relieve bi-polar disorder.
The MRI used was an EP-MRSI.
It would be interesting to find out if this is the kind your wife experienced.http://harvardmagazine.com/2004/05/magnetically-lifted-spir.html [harvardmagazine.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30693126</id>
	<title>Re:Choice to Make</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1262958480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We&rsquo;re not talking about the <em>if</em>. We&rsquo;re talking about the <em>when</em>.<br>And I, for one, would like the <em>when</em> of me being unable to do certain things (including getting hot young women), to be as late as possible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We    re not talking about the if .
We    re talking about the when.And I , for one , would like the when of me being unable to do certain things ( including getting hot young women ) , to be as late as possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We’re not talking about the if.
We’re talking about the when.And I, for one, would like the when of me being unable to do certain things (including getting hot young women), to be as late as possible.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686226</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30688138</id>
	<title>MRI effect?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262861820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When my wife got an MRI when as part of the process to determine if she had Alzheimer's Disease, which turned out to be the case, she experienced a clearing of her mind during the MRI which lasted for about a day. When I reported this to the neurologist, she frowned upon it. I wonder if anybody has reported this effect, or whether it is even a real effect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When my wife got an MRI when as part of the process to determine if she had Alzheimer 's Disease , which turned out to be the case , she experienced a clearing of her mind during the MRI which lasted for about a day .
When I reported this to the neurologist , she frowned upon it .
I wonder if anybody has reported this effect , or whether it is even a real effect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When my wife got an MRI when as part of the process to determine if she had Alzheimer's Disease, which turned out to be the case, she experienced a clearing of her mind during the MRI which lasted for about a day.
When I reported this to the neurologist, she frowned upon it.
I wonder if anybody has reported this effect, or whether it is even a real effect.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685784</id>
	<title>Of course it must be true</title>
	<author>140Mandak262Jamuna</author>
	<datestamp>1262893620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The mice have been running the experiment to check the safety of cellphones for mice use by making the human beings to use them for a long time. It is quite well known and well documented actually.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The mice have been running the experiment to check the safety of cellphones for mice use by making the human beings to use them for a long time .
It is quite well known and well documented actually .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The mice have been running the experiment to check the safety of cellphones for mice use by making the human beings to use them for a long time.
It is quite well known and well documented actually.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686070</id>
	<title>First Post</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262894820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least it would have been if my Alzheimer's didn't make me forget to post earlier.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least it would have been if my Alzheimer 's did n't make me forget to post earlier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least it would have been if my Alzheimer's didn't make me forget to post earlier.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686716</id>
	<title>Re:scary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262854920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>just as microwave radiation (2.45Ghz) does not penetrate that far into a potato.</p></div><p>Bullshit.  That's why that frequency was selected.  It heats water molecules very well, even at the center of an object like a potato.  The water does block some of the radiation but as soon as those molecules started vibrating then the radiation easily penetrates deeper.</p><p>Consider that you can put a phone in a Faraday cage with only one side open, put your head between the phone and the cell tower and it will still work.  In other words the radio waves are penetrating your head relatively easily.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>just as microwave radiation ( 2.45Ghz ) does not penetrate that far into a potato.Bullshit .
That 's why that frequency was selected .
It heats water molecules very well , even at the center of an object like a potato .
The water does block some of the radiation but as soon as those molecules started vibrating then the radiation easily penetrates deeper.Consider that you can put a phone in a Faraday cage with only one side open , put your head between the phone and the cell tower and it will still work .
In other words the radio waves are penetrating your head relatively easily .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>just as microwave radiation (2.45Ghz) does not penetrate that far into a potato.Bullshit.
That's why that frequency was selected.
It heats water molecules very well, even at the center of an object like a potato.
The water does block some of the radiation but as soon as those molecules started vibrating then the radiation easily penetrates deeper.Consider that you can put a phone in a Faraday cage with only one side open, put your head between the phone and the cell tower and it will still work.
In other words the radio waves are penetrating your head relatively easily.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686520</id>
	<title>I use my phone quite a bit.</title>
	<author>UncHellMatt</author>
	<datestamp>1262897280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And I may have alzheimers, but at least I don't have alzheimers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And I may have alzheimers , but at least I do n't have alzheimers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I may have alzheimers, but at least I don't have alzheimers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686684</id>
	<title>Re:If you give a mouse a cell phone,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262897940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What if it's a Bluetooth wireless mouse?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What if it 's a Bluetooth wireless mouse ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if it's a Bluetooth wireless mouse?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685986</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686660</id>
	<title>THIS FP FOR GNAA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262897880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">imple83ntation to</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>imple83ntation to [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>imple83ntation to [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686960</id>
	<title>Re:Medical science is bunk</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1262856120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In what way?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In what way ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In what way?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686012</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687396</id>
	<title>Re:Choice to Make</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262858100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do it like half and half. You just forget that you have brain cancer.... at least sometimes<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do it like half and half .
You just forget that you have brain cancer.... at least sometimes : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do it like half and half.
You just forget that you have brain cancer.... at least sometimes :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685756</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685740</id>
	<title>Mice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262893440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe the mice that were talking on cell phones had a richer mental life, staving off the disease for reasons other than the radiation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe the mice that were talking on cell phones had a richer mental life , staving off the disease for reasons other than the radiation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe the mice that were talking on cell phones had a richer mental life, staving off the disease for reasons other than the radiation.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686080</id>
	<title>tough call</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262894880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>brain cancer or Alzheimers how would u like to die?</htmltext>
<tokenext>brain cancer or Alzheimers how would u like to die ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>brain cancer or Alzheimers how would u like to die?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686308</id>
	<title>Re:Mice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262896260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, I think you wanted to say "Correlation does not equal causation"</p><p>Correlation often *implies* causation, especially in well designed and executed scientific studies that eliminate most other possible causes.  Of course, implying it does not prove it - that is much harder.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , I think you wanted to say " Correlation does not equal causation " Correlation often * implies * causation , especially in well designed and executed scientific studies that eliminate most other possible causes .
Of course , implying it does not prove it - that is much harder .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, I think you wanted to say "Correlation does not equal causation"Correlation often *implies* causation, especially in well designed and executed scientific studies that eliminate most other possible causes.
Of course, implying it does not prove it - that is much harder.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685936</id>
	<title>SparkFun Free Day</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262894160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OMG their servers fucking SUCKED ASS!!!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OMG their servers fucking SUCKED ASS ! ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OMG their servers fucking SUCKED ASS!!!!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687226</id>
	<title>Re:Choice to Make</title>
	<author>BJ\_Covert\_Action</author>
	<datestamp>1262857260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm part of the entitlement generation thank you very much. I want a way to get alzheimers AND brain cancer from one source for half the standard price. In fact, I move that we find a process to do this, document it under an open license, and torrent it. Cancer and Alzheimers want to be free! It's time we stop letting the corporate overlords and power hungry government officials create a false scarcity on alzheimer and cancer products!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm part of the entitlement generation thank you very much .
I want a way to get alzheimers AND brain cancer from one source for half the standard price .
In fact , I move that we find a process to do this , document it under an open license , and torrent it .
Cancer and Alzheimers want to be free !
It 's time we stop letting the corporate overlords and power hungry government officials create a false scarcity on alzheimer and cancer products !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm part of the entitlement generation thank you very much.
I want a way to get alzheimers AND brain cancer from one source for half the standard price.
In fact, I move that we find a process to do this, document it under an open license, and torrent it.
Cancer and Alzheimers want to be free!
It's time we stop letting the corporate overlords and power hungry government officials create a false scarcity on alzheimer and cancer products!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685756</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30689496</id>
	<title>Re:Choice to Make</title>
	<author>icebike</author>
	<datestamp>1262870160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So I can not use a cell phone and may get alzheimers or I can use a cell phone and not get alzheimers but could get brain cancer<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...... time to flip a coin.</p></div><p>Or perhaps just Read all the way to the bottom of TFA....</p><p>Nah, that's crazy talk!!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So I can not use a cell phone and may get alzheimers or I can use a cell phone and not get alzheimers but could get brain cancer ...... time to flip a coin.Or perhaps just Read all the way to the bottom of TFA....Nah , that 's crazy talk !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I can not use a cell phone and may get alzheimers or I can use a cell phone and not get alzheimers but could get brain cancer ...... time to flip a coin.Or perhaps just Read all the way to the bottom of TFA....Nah, that's crazy talk!
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	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685756</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30693148</id>
	<title>Re:scary</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1262958720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is the first good point I see on this whole shitstorm of extremist locked-down points of views on either side, I see here. Sad, sad... so many people here who think they are right and scientific, while just having knee-jerk reactions without any thought or open mind.<br>Again: On either &ldquo;side&rdquo;. That&rsquo;s the saddest thing. That they think the point is to take &ldquo;sides&rdquo;...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is the first good point I see on this whole shitstorm of extremist locked-down points of views on either side , I see here .
Sad , sad... so many people here who think they are right and scientific , while just having knee-jerk reactions without any thought or open mind.Again : On either    side    .
That    s the saddest thing .
That they think the point is to take    sides    .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is the first good point I see on this whole shitstorm of extremist locked-down points of views on either side, I see here.
Sad, sad... so many people here who think they are right and scientific, while just having knee-jerk reactions without any thought or open mind.Again: On either “side”.
That’s the saddest thing.
That they think the point is to take “sides”...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686168</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686876</id>
	<title>OT -- congratulations</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1262855700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For all intents and purposes you have today's most annoying sig. Although I agree that "whom" shoud be deprecated.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For all intents and purposes you have today 's most annoying sig .
Although I agree that " whom " shoud be deprecated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For all intents and purposes you have today's most annoying sig.
Although I agree that "whom" shoud be deprecated.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685886</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685912</id>
	<title>scary</title>
	<author>StripedCow</author>
	<datestamp>1262894100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This proves that cellphone radiation actually interacts with matter in the brain... which is something to be afraid of, in my opinion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This proves that cellphone radiation actually interacts with matter in the brain... which is something to be afraid of , in my opinion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This proves that cellphone radiation actually interacts with matter in the brain... which is something to be afraid of, in my opinion.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687478</id>
	<title>Re:Choice to Make</title>
	<author>memnock</author>
	<datestamp>1262858520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i wonder about a bigger question: does having a cell phone next to your head for a couple of hours per day affect your health? between studies saying that it does/not cause cancer and now this about effect on Alzheimer's, is it safe to say that having a phone to your head for X hours/day has <i>some </i> kind of effect? or have people accepted the fact that cells will somehow affect the brain or head, just not sure what the effect is?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i wonder about a bigger question : does having a cell phone next to your head for a couple of hours per day affect your health ?
between studies saying that it does/not cause cancer and now this about effect on Alzheimer 's , is it safe to say that having a phone to your head for X hours/day has some kind of effect ?
or have people accepted the fact that cells will somehow affect the brain or head , just not sure what the effect is ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i wonder about a bigger question: does having a cell phone next to your head for a couple of hours per day affect your health?
between studies saying that it does/not cause cancer and now this about effect on Alzheimer's, is it safe to say that having a phone to your head for X hours/day has some  kind of effect?
or have people accepted the fact that cells will somehow affect the brain or head, just not sure what the effect is?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685756</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686920</id>
	<title>Re:Choice to Make</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262855880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One can also say cell phones are not actually known to cure Alzheimer's and there are studies that strongly suggest they cause cancer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One can also say cell phones are not actually known to cure Alzheimer 's and there are studies that strongly suggest they cause cancer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One can also say cell phones are not actually known to cure Alzheimer's and there are studies that strongly suggest they cause cancer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686224</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685814</id>
	<title>Hello, Mickey?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262893680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The results were a major surprise and open the possibility of developing a noninvasive, drug-free treatment for Alzheimer's, said lead author Gary Arendash of the University of South Florida.</i></p><p><i>He said he had expected cell phone exposure to increase the effects of dementia.</i></p><p>This is how science is SUPPOSED to work! But don't get your hopes up...</p><p><i>Many treatments that have shown promise in mice have had little effect on humans.<br></i><br>I wonder if this affects the non-Alzheimer's "senior moments" as my mother calls them? I wish they'd had cell phones when I was young! Now where'd I put that damned phone???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The results were a major surprise and open the possibility of developing a noninvasive , drug-free treatment for Alzheimer 's , said lead author Gary Arendash of the University of South Florida.He said he had expected cell phone exposure to increase the effects of dementia.This is how science is SUPPOSED to work !
But do n't get your hopes up...Many treatments that have shown promise in mice have had little effect on humans.I wonder if this affects the non-Alzheimer 's " senior moments " as my mother calls them ?
I wish they 'd had cell phones when I was young !
Now where 'd I put that damned phone ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The results were a major surprise and open the possibility of developing a noninvasive, drug-free treatment for Alzheimer's, said lead author Gary Arendash of the University of South Florida.He said he had expected cell phone exposure to increase the effects of dementia.This is how science is SUPPOSED to work!
But don't get your hopes up...Many treatments that have shown promise in mice have had little effect on humans.I wonder if this affects the non-Alzheimer's "senior moments" as my mother calls them?
I wish they'd had cell phones when I was young!
Now where'd I put that damned phone??
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686738</id>
	<title>Re:scary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262854980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Head size and brain size are two different things. For scientific proof just look at the behaviour of our large headed politicians.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Head size and brain size are two different things .
For scientific proof just look at the behaviour of our large headed politicians .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Head size and brain size are two different things.
For scientific proof just look at the behaviour of our large headed politicians.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686168</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686996</id>
	<title>Oh Yes!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262856300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>In your face Amish!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>In your face Amish !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In your face Amish!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686168</id>
	<title>Re:scary</title>
	<author>dr2chase</author>
	<datestamp>1262895360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, but.  Cellphone radiation (.85-1.9Ghz) does not penetrate that far into your body, just as microwave radiation (2.45Ghz) does not penetrate that far into a potato.
<br>
<br>
Studies show that mouse heads are much smaller than human heads, therefore they are getting a much larger dose to their brain, for a given external exposure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but .
Cellphone radiation ( .85-1.9Ghz ) does not penetrate that far into your body , just as microwave radiation ( 2.45Ghz ) does not penetrate that far into a potato .
Studies show that mouse heads are much smaller than human heads , therefore they are getting a much larger dose to their brain , for a given external exposure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but.
Cellphone radiation (.85-1.9Ghz) does not penetrate that far into your body, just as microwave radiation (2.45Ghz) does not penetrate that far into a potato.
Studies show that mouse heads are much smaller than human heads, therefore they are getting a much larger dose to their brain, for a given external exposure.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685912</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30697450</id>
	<title>Re:scary</title>
	<author>volpe</author>
	<datestamp>1262977800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Studies show that mouse heads are much smaller than human heads,</p></div></blockquote><p><a href="http://blog.orlandodiscountticketsusa.com/Portals/40921/images//Mickey\%20Mouse\%20Citizanship\%20at\%20Disney\%20World-resized-600.jpg" title="orlandodis...etsusa.com"> Are you sure about that?</a> [orlandodis...etsusa.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Studies show that mouse heads are much smaller than human heads , Are you sure about that ?
[ orlandodis...etsusa.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Studies show that mouse heads are much smaller than human heads, Are you sure about that?
[orlandodis...etsusa.com]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686168</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686144</id>
	<title>My girlfriend</title>
	<author>rehtonAesoohC</author>
	<datestamp>1262895300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think my girlfriend has saved up enough cell phone usage to prevent alzheimers in both of us!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think my girlfriend has saved up enough cell phone usage to prevent alzheimers in both of us !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think my girlfriend has saved up enough cell phone usage to prevent alzheimers in both of us!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687904</id>
	<title>Re:Now try keeping the mice warm</title>
	<author>istartedi</author>
	<datestamp>1262860740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An appeal to elitism.  Refreshing!</p><p>Most people take a different tack and fail.</p><p>Alas, I haven't the faintest desire to be an elitist.
Now pardon, I have a tee-time at Pebble Beach.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An appeal to elitism .
Refreshing ! Most people take a different tack and fail.Alas , I have n't the faintest desire to be an elitist .
Now pardon , I have a tee-time at Pebble Beach .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An appeal to elitism.
Refreshing!Most people take a different tack and fail.Alas, I haven't the faintest desire to be an elitist.
Now pardon, I have a tee-time at Pebble Beach.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686568</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686770</id>
	<title>This makes sense to me!</title>
	<author>REALMAN</author>
	<datestamp>1262855160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cell phones are good for your brain.<br>Mercury is good for you.<br>Melamine is yummy.<br>Up is down.<br>Left is right.<br>The sky is green.<br>The grass is blue.</p><p>I'm glad there are folks studying all these issues who can tell me what is good for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cell phones are good for your brain.Mercury is good for you.Melamine is yummy.Up is down.Left is right.The sky is green.The grass is blue.I 'm glad there are folks studying all these issues who can tell me what is good for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cell phones are good for your brain.Mercury is good for you.Melamine is yummy.Up is down.Left is right.The sky is green.The grass is blue.I'm glad there are folks studying all these issues who can tell me what is good for me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30688016</id>
	<title>Re:Choice to Make</title>
	<author>swinefc</author>
	<datestamp>1262861340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Until now, I believed as you do...  "Cell phones are not actually known to cause any health problems".  Low level RF is already in our natural habitat.</p><p>Unfortunately, this article is worrisome, because the study showed a positive effect.  The problem is that it had any affect at all.  If cell phone radiation can affect Alzheimer's, then cell phone radiation has an affect, positive or negative is just a modifier.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Until now , I believed as you do... " Cell phones are not actually known to cause any health problems " .
Low level RF is already in our natural habitat.Unfortunately , this article is worrisome , because the study showed a positive effect .
The problem is that it had any affect at all .
If cell phone radiation can affect Alzheimer 's , then cell phone radiation has an affect , positive or negative is just a modifier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until now, I believed as you do...  "Cell phones are not actually known to cause any health problems".
Low level RF is already in our natural habitat.Unfortunately, this article is worrisome, because the study showed a positive effect.
The problem is that it had any affect at all.
If cell phone radiation can affect Alzheimer's, then cell phone radiation has an affect, positive or negative is just a modifier.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686224</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685908</id>
	<title>Well then!</title>
	<author>azav</author>
	<datestamp>1262894100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Strapping the phones to my head as we speak, with each one set to forward to the next.  I look forward to your calls.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Strapping the phones to my head as we speak , with each one set to forward to the next .
I look forward to your calls .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Strapping the phones to my head as we speak, with each one set to forward to the next.
I look forward to your calls.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686802</id>
	<title>Re:Choice to Make</title>
	<author>Bai jie</author>
	<datestamp>1262855340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But what if I forget?</htmltext>
<tokenext>But what if I forget ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But what if I forget?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686294</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30692932</id>
	<title>Proof that the radiation *does* have an effect?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1262956440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought there was no effect on the human body...<br>Wouldn&rsquo;t this here be proof that it does have an effect after all?<br>And wouldn&rsquo;t that mean that the loonies who demanded no cell phone towers in their area, were right too?<br>But would they still sue the companies for it, or would the companies demand money for protecting them from Alzheimers? ^^<br>I guess it depends on the extremely unlikely effect, that Alzheimers protection is the only effect it has...</p><p>Aaahh, it&rsquo;s all so confusing...<br>And I can&rsquo;t even put on my tinfoil hat, because it&rsquo;s an amplifying antenna... *waaahhh* *head explodes*.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought there was no effect on the human body...Wouldn    t this here be proof that it does have an effect after all ? And wouldn    t that mean that the loonies who demanded no cell phone towers in their area , were right too ? But would they still sue the companies for it , or would the companies demand money for protecting them from Alzheimers ?
^ ^ I guess it depends on the extremely unlikely effect , that Alzheimers protection is the only effect it has...Aaahh , it    s all so confusing...And I can    t even put on my tinfoil hat , because it    s an amplifying antenna... * waaahhh * * head explodes * .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought there was no effect on the human body...Wouldn’t this here be proof that it does have an effect after all?And wouldn’t that mean that the loonies who demanded no cell phone towers in their area, were right too?But would they still sue the companies for it, or would the companies demand money for protecting them from Alzheimers?
^^I guess it depends on the extremely unlikely effect, that Alzheimers protection is the only effect it has...Aaahh, it’s all so confusing...And I can’t even put on my tinfoil hat, because it’s an amplifying antenna... *waaahhh* *head explodes*.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686306</id>
	<title>Re:scary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262896260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We've have known for years that non-ionizing radiation can affect biochemical processes (e.g., enzyme kinetics), and can have physiological effects (e.g., suppression of melatonin production, possibly via the same mechanism).</p><p>I think sometimes people with physics or engineering backgrounds make the assumption that we understand all the rules and therefore can say with authority "X can't happen".  That's rarely true.  Being unable to explain a phenomenon may be cause for dismissing it as spurious in some fields, where the rules are understood well enough to distinguish between the improbable and impossible, but in biology that's a dangerous assumption to make.  I tend to operate with the reverse of Sherlock Holmes' rule, i.e., if you eliminate the suitably improbable, whatever is left, no matter how impossible, is probably true.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've have known for years that non-ionizing radiation can affect biochemical processes ( e.g. , enzyme kinetics ) , and can have physiological effects ( e.g. , suppression of melatonin production , possibly via the same mechanism ) .I think sometimes people with physics or engineering backgrounds make the assumption that we understand all the rules and therefore can say with authority " X ca n't happen " .
That 's rarely true .
Being unable to explain a phenomenon may be cause for dismissing it as spurious in some fields , where the rules are understood well enough to distinguish between the improbable and impossible , but in biology that 's a dangerous assumption to make .
I tend to operate with the reverse of Sherlock Holmes ' rule , i.e. , if you eliminate the suitably improbable , whatever is left , no matter how impossible , is probably true .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've have known for years that non-ionizing radiation can affect biochemical processes (e.g., enzyme kinetics), and can have physiological effects (e.g., suppression of melatonin production, possibly via the same mechanism).I think sometimes people with physics or engineering backgrounds make the assumption that we understand all the rules and therefore can say with authority "X can't happen".
That's rarely true.
Being unable to explain a phenomenon may be cause for dismissing it as spurious in some fields, where the rules are understood well enough to distinguish between the improbable and impossible, but in biology that's a dangerous assumption to make.
I tend to operate with the reverse of Sherlock Holmes' rule, i.e., if you eliminate the suitably improbable, whatever is left, no matter how impossible, is probably true.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685912</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30697510</id>
	<title>Re:Ironic</title>
	<author>volpe</author>
	<datestamp>1262978040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>P.S. At least I think that's irony. Every time I think I've got it down, someone shows me a new rule for what is or isn't irony. My apologies to the grammar Nazis in advance if I have it wrong.</p></div></blockquote><p>What does or does not constitute irony is a semantic issue, not a grammar issue.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>P.S .
At least I think that 's irony .
Every time I think I 've got it down , someone shows me a new rule for what is or is n't irony .
My apologies to the grammar Nazis in advance if I have it wrong.What does or does not constitute irony is a semantic issue , not a grammar issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>P.S.
At least I think that's irony.
Every time I think I've got it down, someone shows me a new rule for what is or isn't irony.
My apologies to the grammar Nazis in advance if I have it wrong.What does or does not constitute irony is a semantic issue, not a grammar issue.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687450</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30691564</id>
	<title>Transcranial magnetic stimulation</title>
	<author>Frans Faase</author>
	<datestamp>1262981760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A search on Transcranial magnetic stimulation and Alzheimer returns many scientifical articles from which I understand that there is some (temporary?) effect. Because MRI makes use of magnetic fields, it is also a form of TMS.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A search on Transcranial magnetic stimulation and Alzheimer returns many scientifical articles from which I understand that there is some ( temporary ?
) effect .
Because MRI makes use of magnetic fields , it is also a form of TMS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A search on Transcranial magnetic stimulation and Alzheimer returns many scientifical articles from which I understand that there is some (temporary?
) effect.
Because MRI makes use of magnetic fields, it is also a form of TMS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30688172</id>
	<title>Re:Now try keeping the mice warm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262861940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Part of me actually expects this to work the other way around. A while back I did large molecule discovery research for pharmaceutical applications (mostly antibodies; primarily using phage display tech). We found that at least in many of our production systems, proteins produced at 25C were more soluble than those produced at 37C (normal human body temperature). We assumed that it was primarily due to the differences in glycosylation.  <br>
&nbsp; <br>While Alzheimers is characterized by protein aggregates (which as you implied, typically result from cooler conditions), I would posit that cooling may be equally effective. It really depends on the cause of the plaques; whether they result from an overabundance of hydrophibic amino acid residues, misfolding of the peptide chain, or the glycosylation of the protein.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Part of me actually expects this to work the other way around .
A while back I did large molecule discovery research for pharmaceutical applications ( mostly antibodies ; primarily using phage display tech ) .
We found that at least in many of our production systems , proteins produced at 25C were more soluble than those produced at 37C ( normal human body temperature ) .
We assumed that it was primarily due to the differences in glycosylation .
  While Alzheimers is characterized by protein aggregates ( which as you implied , typically result from cooler conditions ) , I would posit that cooling may be equally effective .
It really depends on the cause of the plaques ; whether they result from an overabundance of hydrophibic amino acid residues , misfolding of the peptide chain , or the glycosylation of the protein .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Part of me actually expects this to work the other way around.
A while back I did large molecule discovery research for pharmaceutical applications (mostly antibodies; primarily using phage display tech).
We found that at least in many of our production systems, proteins produced at 25C were more soluble than those produced at 37C (normal human body temperature).
We assumed that it was primarily due to the differences in glycosylation.
  While Alzheimers is characterized by protein aggregates (which as you implied, typically result from cooler conditions), I would posit that cooling may be equally effective.
It really depends on the cause of the plaques; whether they result from an overabundance of hydrophibic amino acid residues, misfolding of the peptide chain, or the glycosylation of the protein.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686506</id>
	<title>Re:Mice</title>
	<author>SEWilco</author>
	<datestamp>1262897220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Maybe the mice that were talking on cell phones had a richer mental life, staving off the disease for reasons other than the radiation.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
I don't know how much richer is thinking "Why does this box make noises like another mouse?"<br>
And they'd have a less rich mental life if they're using GPS to find their cheese in the maze.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe the mice that were talking on cell phones had a richer mental life , staving off the disease for reasons other than the radiation .
I do n't know how much richer is thinking " Why does this box make noises like another mouse ?
" And they 'd have a less rich mental life if they 're using GPS to find their cheese in the maze .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe the mice that were talking on cell phones had a richer mental life, staving off the disease for reasons other than the radiation.
I don't know how much richer is thinking "Why does this box make noises like another mouse?
"
And they'd have a less rich mental life if they're using GPS to find their cheese in the maze.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686176</id>
	<title>Re:Mice</title>
	<author>docneuro</author>
	<datestamp>1262895420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Maybe the mice that were talking on cell phones had a richer mental life, staving off the disease for reasons other than the radiation.</p></div><p>Nah. There was less amyloid because the mice unfortunately crashed their cars while talking on the cell phone and just died young.

</p><p>Nothing to see here... move along.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe the mice that were talking on cell phones had a richer mental life , staving off the disease for reasons other than the radiation.Nah .
There was less amyloid because the mice unfortunately crashed their cars while talking on the cell phone and just died young .
Nothing to see here... move along .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe the mice that were talking on cell phones had a richer mental life, staving off the disease for reasons other than the radiation.Nah.
There was less amyloid because the mice unfortunately crashed their cars while talking on the cell phone and just died young.
Nothing to see here... move along.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686358</id>
	<title>Re:Mice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262896560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Judging from the people I see driving while blabbing on phones and the mindless conversations I'm forced to listen to in public places I'd say most people aren't having a richer mental life with cellphones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Judging from the people I see driving while blabbing on phones and the mindless conversations I 'm forced to listen to in public places I 'd say most people are n't having a richer mental life with cellphones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Judging from the people I see driving while blabbing on phones and the mindless conversations I'm forced to listen to in public places I'd say most people aren't having a richer mental life with cellphones.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30688220</id>
	<title>Also OT</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1262862060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares?"</p></div><p>One of the most subtle yet clever puns I have had the pleasure to encounter.  I'm so used to people replacing "intents and" with "intensive" in that phrase that I almost missed it.  Extra points for the appropriate use of an alternate definition.</p><p>I tip my hat to you, sir.  Well done.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For all intensive purposes , " whom " is no longer a word .
That begs the question , " who cares ?
" One of the most subtle yet clever puns I have had the pleasure to encounter .
I 'm so used to people replacing " intents and " with " intensive " in that phrase that I almost missed it .
Extra points for the appropriate use of an alternate definition.I tip my hat to you , sir .
Well done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word.
That begs the question, "who cares?
"One of the most subtle yet clever puns I have had the pleasure to encounter.
I'm so used to people replacing "intents and" with "intensive" in that phrase that I almost missed it.
Extra points for the appropriate use of an alternate definition.I tip my hat to you, sir.
Well done.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30690190</id>
	<title>extra fees</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262876940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You all do realize that AT&amp;T will start charging an extra 'healthy minutes' fee if they hear about this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You all do realize that AT&amp;T will start charging an extra 'healthy minutes ' fee if they hear about this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You all do realize that AT&amp;T will start charging an extra 'healthy minutes' fee if they hear about this?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30698476</id>
	<title>Just a thought</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262982060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who puts a phone to their head anymore now anyway? Texting helps prevent arthritis.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who puts a phone to their head anymore now anyway ?
Texting helps prevent arthritis .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who puts a phone to their head anymore now anyway?
Texting helps prevent arthritis.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685880</id>
	<title>Fixing Forgetfull Grandma...</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1262893980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Duct Tape, check<br>Cell phones, check</p><p>So we should go buy a bunch of those pre-paid cell phones and duct tape them to grandma's head and hope to heck her memory gets better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Duct Tape , checkCell phones , checkSo we should go buy a bunch of those pre-paid cell phones and duct tape them to grandma 's head and hope to heck her memory gets better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Duct Tape, checkCell phones, checkSo we should go buy a bunch of those pre-paid cell phones and duct tape them to grandma's head and hope to heck her memory gets better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687086</id>
	<title>in HUMANS?</title>
	<author>Jimmy\_Slimmy</author>
	<datestamp>1262856660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"Arendash said his team was modifying the experiment to see if they could produce faster results and begin testing humans."</p></div><p>Ah, this is one time I would like to see some studies of correlation in humans before we let this guy work on causation.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Arendash said his team was modifying the experiment to see if they could produce faster results and begin testing humans .
" Ah , this is one time I would like to see some studies of correlation in humans before we let this guy work on causation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Arendash said his team was modifying the experiment to see if they could produce faster results and begin testing humans.
"Ah, this is one time I would like to see some studies of correlation in humans before we let this guy work on causation.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687026</id>
	<title>Re:A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiati</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1262856420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Why accept this, but not the original arguments regarding microwave radiation?</i></p><p>Because there isn't any evidence that cellphone use is harmful. Conjecture is useless until tested.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why accept this , but not the original arguments regarding microwave radiation ? Because there is n't any evidence that cellphone use is harmful .
Conjecture is useless until tested .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why accept this, but not the original arguments regarding microwave radiation?Because there isn't any evidence that cellphone use is harmful.
Conjecture is useless until tested.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687916</id>
	<title>Re:scary</title>
	<author>Scubaraf</author>
	<datestamp>1262860860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Exactly! I'm not sure how you go from RF to decreased beta-amyloid deposition, but a plausible mechanism for dysregulating gene expression has been proposed. Namely, RF can disrupt the hydrogen bonds that anneal complimentary strands of DNA together. This can have many effects including unsilencing genes, interference with DNA replication (and thereby increasing the mutation rate), and interference with mRNA synthesis - all without ionizing a damn thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly !
I 'm not sure how you go from RF to decreased beta-amyloid deposition , but a plausible mechanism for dysregulating gene expression has been proposed .
Namely , RF can disrupt the hydrogen bonds that anneal complimentary strands of DNA together .
This can have many effects including unsilencing genes , interference with DNA replication ( and thereby increasing the mutation rate ) , and interference with mRNA synthesis - all without ionizing a damn thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly!
I'm not sure how you go from RF to decreased beta-amyloid deposition, but a plausible mechanism for dysregulating gene expression has been proposed.
Namely, RF can disrupt the hydrogen bonds that anneal complimentary strands of DNA together.
This can have many effects including unsilencing genes, interference with DNA replication (and thereby increasing the mutation rate), and interference with mRNA synthesis - all without ionizing a damn thing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686548</id>
	<title>Re:A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiati</title>
	<author>Mia'cova</author>
	<datestamp>1262897460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As someone who doubts cellphones cause statistically significant brain damage, I also doubt it causes statistically significant improvements. Naturally, the science will speak for itself either way.</p><p>Certainly similar radiation at much higher doses will have an effect. Also, keep in mind mice have much smaller heads. A cellphone would have a much stronger effect on a mouse as the radiation will far more easily penetrate the skull and brain. In humans, much of the strength is lost before the signal makes it to the brain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone who doubts cellphones cause statistically significant brain damage , I also doubt it causes statistically significant improvements .
Naturally , the science will speak for itself either way.Certainly similar radiation at much higher doses will have an effect .
Also , keep in mind mice have much smaller heads .
A cellphone would have a much stronger effect on a mouse as the radiation will far more easily penetrate the skull and brain .
In humans , much of the strength is lost before the signal makes it to the brain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone who doubts cellphones cause statistically significant brain damage, I also doubt it causes statistically significant improvements.
Naturally, the science will speak for itself either way.Certainly similar radiation at much higher doses will have an effect.
Also, keep in mind mice have much smaller heads.
A cellphone would have a much stronger effect on a mouse as the radiation will far more easily penetrate the skull and brain.
In humans, much of the strength is lost before the signal makes it to the brain.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687450</id>
	<title>Ironic</title>
	<author>LordKronos</author>
	<datestamp>1262858400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, cell phones protect from alzheimers? The condition that (among other effects) causes people to forget things ? I find that quite ironic, considering that it seems 99\% of people forget how to drive when they're on one.</p><p>P.S. At least I think that's irony. Every time I think I've got it down, someone shows me a new rule for what is or isn't irony. My apologies to the grammar Nazis in advance if I have it wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , cell phones protect from alzheimers ?
The condition that ( among other effects ) causes people to forget things ?
I find that quite ironic , considering that it seems 99 \ % of people forget how to drive when they 're on one.P.S .
At least I think that 's irony .
Every time I think I 've got it down , someone shows me a new rule for what is or is n't irony .
My apologies to the grammar Nazis in advance if I have it wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, cell phones protect from alzheimers?
The condition that (among other effects) causes people to forget things ?
I find that quite ironic, considering that it seems 99\% of people forget how to drive when they're on one.P.S.
At least I think that's irony.
Every time I think I've got it down, someone shows me a new rule for what is or isn't irony.
My apologies to the grammar Nazis in advance if I have it wrong.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685966</id>
	<title>Great news for drivers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262894340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So now we're going to have the old ladies in their 1989 Cadilacs also talking on their cell phones while driving?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So now we 're going to have the old ladies in their 1989 Cadilacs also talking on their cell phones while driving ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So now we're going to have the old ladies in their 1989 Cadilacs also talking on their cell phones while driving?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686748</id>
	<title>Re:A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiati</title>
	<author>Toonol</author>
	<datestamp>1262855040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Many of us are as skeptical of these results as we are of the other results.  Let more research be done, and see if we get consistently repeatable results.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Many of us are as skeptical of these results as we are of the other results .
Let more research be done , and see if we get consistently repeatable results .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many of us are as skeptical of these results as we are of the other results.
Let more research be done, and see if we get consistently repeatable results.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686538</id>
	<title>Re:A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiati</title>
	<author>boojum.cat</author>
	<datestamp>1262897400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The argument, as I understand it, is that cancer is caused by mutated DNA, and DNA cannot be mutated by radiation that's too weak to break chemical bonds.  Since cell phone radiation doesn't break bonds, it doesn't cause cancer.  If Alzheimer's is caused by something other than mutated DNA, the argument doesn't apply.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The argument , as I understand it , is that cancer is caused by mutated DNA , and DNA can not be mutated by radiation that 's too weak to break chemical bonds .
Since cell phone radiation does n't break bonds , it does n't cause cancer .
If Alzheimer 's is caused by something other than mutated DNA , the argument does n't apply .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The argument, as I understand it, is that cancer is caused by mutated DNA, and DNA cannot be mutated by radiation that's too weak to break chemical bonds.
Since cell phone radiation doesn't break bonds, it doesn't cause cancer.
If Alzheimer's is caused by something other than mutated DNA, the argument doesn't apply.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685942</id>
	<title>Bad News</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262894220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, this is really bad news.  If "long-term exposure to electromagnetic waves such as those used in cell phones" can change brain proteins we need to reduce cell phone usage.  It's not as if the electromagnetic waves can identify and effect only pathogenic molecules.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , this is really bad news .
If " long-term exposure to electromagnetic waves such as those used in cell phones " can change brain proteins we need to reduce cell phone usage .
It 's not as if the electromagnetic waves can identify and effect only pathogenic molecules .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, this is really bad news.
If "long-term exposure to electromagnetic waves such as those used in cell phones" can change brain proteins we need to reduce cell phone usage.
It's not as if the electromagnetic waves can identify and effect only pathogenic molecules.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30689912</id>
	<title>Re:A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiati</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1262874120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's ridiculous.  Everybody knows microwaves have an effect on matter.  We use them to cook food.  What is a much bigger leap is claiming that microwaves at low levels have an unusually large effect on DNA - that is, they can cause cancer without cooking the tissue.</p><p>IF this effect is real, it's very, very unlikely it has anything to do with changing DNA, for the worse or better.</p><p>Perhaps you might believe that washing a cut with clean water can help it heal faster, but are also of the opinion that water doesn't cause cancer?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's ridiculous .
Everybody knows microwaves have an effect on matter .
We use them to cook food .
What is a much bigger leap is claiming that microwaves at low levels have an unusually large effect on DNA - that is , they can cause cancer without cooking the tissue.IF this effect is real , it 's very , very unlikely it has anything to do with changing DNA , for the worse or better.Perhaps you might believe that washing a cut with clean water can help it heal faster , but are also of the opinion that water does n't cause cancer ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's ridiculous.
Everybody knows microwaves have an effect on matter.
We use them to cook food.
What is a much bigger leap is claiming that microwaves at low levels have an unusually large effect on DNA - that is, they can cause cancer without cooking the tissue.IF this effect is real, it's very, very unlikely it has anything to do with changing DNA, for the worse or better.Perhaps you might believe that washing a cut with clean water can help it heal faster, but are also of the opinion that water doesn't cause cancer?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686226</id>
	<title>Re:Choice to Make</title>
	<author>TooMuchToDo</author>
	<datestamp>1262895720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>On a long enough timeline, the rate of survival always drops to zero. Stop worrying so much.</htmltext>
<tokenext>On a long enough timeline , the rate of survival always drops to zero .
Stop worrying so much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On a long enough timeline, the rate of survival always drops to zero.
Stop worrying so much.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686514</id>
	<title>Re:Mice</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1262897220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Were the mice allowed to use the cell phones to make booty calls?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Were the mice allowed to use the cell phones to make booty calls ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Were the mice allowed to use the cell phones to make booty calls?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685956</id>
	<title>Easily explained</title>
	<author>sjonke</author>
	<datestamp>1262894280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most people who die at 50 didn't have alzheimers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most people who die at 50 did n't have alzheimers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most people who die at 50 didn't have alzheimers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686604</id>
	<title>Oh, crap!</title>
	<author>marqs</author>
	<datestamp>1262897580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't remember the PIN code for my phone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't remember the PIN code for my phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't remember the PIN code for my phone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30692852</id>
	<title>new title</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262955480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe this article should be titled: "Yeah I get cancer, but I won't forget things anymore!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe this article should be titled : " Yeah I get cancer , but I wo n't forget things anymore !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe this article should be titled: "Yeah I get cancer, but I won't forget things anymore!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30693030</id>
	<title>Re:Now try keeping the mice warm</title>
	<author>Ginger Unicorn</author>
	<datestamp>1262957460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>there's nothing quite so beautiful as the destruction of words, winston</htmltext>
<tokenext>there 's nothing quite so beautiful as the destruction of words , winston</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there's nothing quite so beautiful as the destruction of words, winston</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687416</id>
	<title>Unlimited minutes...</title>
	<author>eharvill</author>
	<datestamp>1262858220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>with a couple "Venti's" daily and Alzheimer's is eradicated!

<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703278604574624032849271284.html" title="wsj.com">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703278604574624032849271284.html</a> [wsj.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>with a couple " Venti 's " daily and Alzheimer 's is eradicated !
http : //online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703278604574624032849271284.html [ wsj.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with a couple "Venti's" daily and Alzheimer's is eradicated!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703278604574624032849271284.html [wsj.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30685886</id>
	<title>Now try keeping the mice warm</title>
	<author>istartedi</author>
	<datestamp>1262894040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe it was just the heat.  Now try keeping
the mice in warmer cages.  If their autonomic systems
tend to cool the brain, try drugs that tend to increase
the temperature of the mouse.  Maybe it's just the warm
brain that does this.  Tell gramps to wear a hat when he
goes out.  Tinfoil optional.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe it was just the heat .
Now try keeping the mice in warmer cages .
If their autonomic systems tend to cool the brain , try drugs that tend to increase the temperature of the mouse .
Maybe it 's just the warm brain that does this .
Tell gramps to wear a hat when he goes out .
Tinfoil optional .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe it was just the heat.
Now try keeping
the mice in warmer cages.
If their autonomic systems
tend to cool the brain, try drugs that tend to increase
the temperature of the mouse.
Maybe it's just the warm
brain that does this.
Tell gramps to wear a hat when he
goes out.
Tinfoil optional.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30689916</id>
	<title>They said they used EQUIVALENT doses</title>
	<author>George\_Ou</author>
	<datestamp>1262874180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They said they used EQUIVALENT doses in the mice.  I'm pretty sure they didn't use the same dose, just an equivalent dose that factors in the size of the mice.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They said they used EQUIVALENT doses in the mice .
I 'm pretty sure they did n't use the same dose , just an equivalent dose that factors in the size of the mice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They said they used EQUIVALENT doses in the mice.
I'm pretty sure they didn't use the same dose, just an equivalent dose that factors in the size of the mice.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30688770</id>
	<title>Brain tumors are good!</title>
	<author>GooberToo</author>
	<datestamp>1262864700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So brain tumors keep you safe from Alzheimer's disease??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So brain tumors keep you safe from Alzheimer 's disease ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So brain tumors keep you safe from Alzheimer's disease?
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686752</id>
	<title>Re:A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiati</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262855100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because there is a big difference between the hypothesis that cellular phones can cause cancerous tumors to form in human brains and the finding that it can break up a plaque at a much larger scale...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because there is a big difference between the hypothesis that cellular phones can cause cancerous tumors to form in human brains and the finding that it can break up a plaque at a much larger scale.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because there is a big difference between the hypothesis that cellular phones can cause cancerous tumors to form in human brains and the finding that it can break up a plaque at a much larger scale...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30686244</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30687388</id>
	<title>Smart scientist</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262858100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Quite to the contrary, those mice were protected if the cell phone exposure was stared in early adulthood. Or if the cellphone exposure was started after they were already memory- impaired, it reversed that impairment," Arendash said in a <b>telephone interview</b>'.</p><p>See, he's already using the study results to his advantage..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Quite to the contrary , those mice were protected if the cell phone exposure was stared in early adulthood .
Or if the cellphone exposure was started after they were already memory- impaired , it reversed that impairment , " Arendash said in a telephone interview'.See , he 's already using the study results to his advantage. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Quite to the contrary, those mice were protected if the cell phone exposure was stared in early adulthood.
Or if the cellphone exposure was started after they were already memory- impaired, it reversed that impairment," Arendash said in a telephone interview'.See, he's already using the study results to his advantage..</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30690056</id>
	<title>Maybe it's affecting prion folding?</title>
	<author>BlueCoder</author>
	<datestamp>1262875560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My first guess from this would be that EM radiation can affect the rate and or disposition of prion protein folding. More than likely only affecting weak prion self replication(which is slow) vs normal protein formation.</p><p>This makes would make EM radiation quantitatively non mutagenic and about as likely to cause cancer as someone spontaneously combusting.</p><p>This wouldn't affect non functional plaques caused by a mutant genes though.</p><p>Our brains are no doubt adapted to prions and plagues and there probably exists a garbage collection mechanism that can deal with it up to a certain level without getting overwhelmed.  But undoubtedly all brain functions are increased with lower populations of prions.</p><p>A second theory would be that EM causes plaques to not stick together as much and hence make the garbage collection mechanism much more productive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My first guess from this would be that EM radiation can affect the rate and or disposition of prion protein folding .
More than likely only affecting weak prion self replication ( which is slow ) vs normal protein formation.This makes would make EM radiation quantitatively non mutagenic and about as likely to cause cancer as someone spontaneously combusting.This would n't affect non functional plaques caused by a mutant genes though.Our brains are no doubt adapted to prions and plagues and there probably exists a garbage collection mechanism that can deal with it up to a certain level without getting overwhelmed .
But undoubtedly all brain functions are increased with lower populations of prions.A second theory would be that EM causes plaques to not stick together as much and hence make the garbage collection mechanism much more productive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My first guess from this would be that EM radiation can affect the rate and or disposition of prion protein folding.
More than likely only affecting weak prion self replication(which is slow) vs normal protein formation.This makes would make EM radiation quantitatively non mutagenic and about as likely to cause cancer as someone spontaneously combusting.This wouldn't affect non functional plaques caused by a mutant genes though.Our brains are no doubt adapted to prions and plagues and there probably exists a garbage collection mechanism that can deal with it up to a certain level without getting overwhelmed.
But undoubtedly all brain functions are increased with lower populations of prions.A second theory would be that EM causes plaques to not stick together as much and hence make the garbage collection mechanism much more productive.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_07_1812250.30693040</id>
	<title>Re:Choice to Make</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1262957520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uuum, you&rsquo;re not only using doublethink, but you&rsquo;re also making stataments without anything to back it up. Even if one agrees with you, that is not acceptable.</p><p>The thing is: If it can protect from Alzheimers, this proves that it does something to the brain. Because Alzheimers protection is a subset of &ldquo;doing something&rdquo;.<br>Or it does not protect, and there is nothing happening in the brain.<br>You can&rsquo;t have both, as long as you stay attached to reality.</p><p>So if it does something after all, then it actually crazy unlikely, that it would just happen that it only protects from Alzheimers, and has no other effects <em>whatsoever</em>. That would be a silly unscientific assumption.</p><p>So since we haven&rsquo;t studied it yet, we do not know all actual effect. Which is why a long-term study (whole mouse life) on living mice, with different types of radiation, them all being (nearly) clones, and with control groups, does make sense. Then we would have to check for all differences. Which is where it becomes hard. Because as soon as the mouse is dead, a big share of important factors vanish. (Electrochemical state decay.)<br>And most importantly, as anyone who even remotely understands the scientific method, knows, you can not prove that there is no effect, Because you can not read in the whole state of the matter like in a &ldquo;teleporter buffer&rdquo;, and therefore can not ever measure everything. (And even that would change things.) So you can only disprove a certain set. Which can be big, but never will be complete.<br>You could check for cancer, of course. And other diseases.</p><p>Now if you happen to have such a, properly done, study, disproving something, I&rsquo;d like to see it.<br>Until then, I do not make any stupid assumptions on <em>either</em> side. Because, frankly, if you put yourself on one &ldquo;side&rdquo; without having a fuckin&rsquo; clue, it does not matter what side you are on, because you are <em>exactly</em> like the other side that you hate so much. Only primitive people even think about it in terms of &ldquo;sides&rdquo;.</p><p>And what&rsquo;s all the heat and fuss about? Smells just like religious fundamentalism.<br>Just sit, wait, drink tee, and we will see. Live your life. There&rsquo;s no point in freaking out about shit that you can&rsquo;t do anything about and don&rsquo;t know anything about.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uuum , you    re not only using doublethink , but you    re also making stataments without anything to back it up .
Even if one agrees with you , that is not acceptable.The thing is : If it can protect from Alzheimers , this proves that it does something to the brain .
Because Alzheimers protection is a subset of    doing something    .Or it does not protect , and there is nothing happening in the brain.You can    t have both , as long as you stay attached to reality.So if it does something after all , then it actually crazy unlikely , that it would just happen that it only protects from Alzheimers , and has no other effects whatsoever .
That would be a silly unscientific assumption.So since we haven    t studied it yet , we do not know all actual effect .
Which is why a long-term study ( whole mouse life ) on living mice , with different types of radiation , them all being ( nearly ) clones , and with control groups , does make sense .
Then we would have to check for all differences .
Which is where it becomes hard .
Because as soon as the mouse is dead , a big share of important factors vanish .
( Electrochemical state decay .
) And most importantly , as anyone who even remotely understands the scientific method , knows , you can not prove that there is no effect , Because you can not read in the whole state of the matter like in a    teleporter buffer    , and therefore can not ever measure everything .
( And even that would change things .
) So you can only disprove a certain set .
Which can be big , but never will be complete.You could check for cancer , of course .
And other diseases.Now if you happen to have such a , properly done , study , disproving something , I    d like to see it.Until then , I do not make any stupid assumptions on either side .
Because , frankly , if you put yourself on one    side    without having a fuckin    clue , it does not matter what side you are on , because you are exactly like the other side that you hate so much .
Only primitive people even think about it in terms of    sides    .And what    s all the heat and fuss about ?
Smells just like religious fundamentalism.Just sit , wait , drink tee , and we will see .
Live your life .
There    s no point in freaking out about shit that you can    t do anything about and don    t know anything about .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uuum, you’re not only using doublethink, but you’re also making stataments without anything to back it up.
Even if one agrees with you, that is not acceptable.The thing is: If it can protect from Alzheimers, this proves that it does something to the brain.
Because Alzheimers protection is a subset of “doing something”.Or it does not protect, and there is nothing happening in the brain.You can’t have both, as long as you stay attached to reality.So if it does something after all, then it actually crazy unlikely, that it would just happen that it only protects from Alzheimers, and has no other effects whatsoever.
That would be a silly unscientific assumption.So since we haven’t studied it yet, we do not know all actual effect.
Which is why a long-term study (whole mouse life) on living mice, with different types of radiation, them all being (nearly) clones, and with control groups, does make sense.
Then we would have to check for all differences.
Which is where it becomes hard.
Because as soon as the mouse is dead, a big share of important factors vanish.
(Electrochemical state decay.
)And most importantly, as anyone who even remotely understands the scientific method, knows, you can not prove that there is no effect, Because you can not read in the whole state of the matter like in a “teleporter buffer”, and therefore can not ever measure everything.
(And even that would change things.
) So you can only disprove a certain set.
Which can be big, but never will be complete.You could check for cancer, of course.
And other diseases.Now if you happen to have such a, properly done, study, disproving something, I’d like to see it.Until then, I do not make any stupid assumptions on either side.
Because, frankly, if you put yourself on one “side” without having a fuckin’ clue, it does not matter what side you are on, because you are exactly like the other side that you hate so much.
Only primitive people even think about it in terms of “sides”.And what’s all the heat and fuss about?
Smells just like religious fundamentalism.Just sit, wait, drink tee, and we will see.
Live your life.
There’s no point in freaking out about shit that you can’t do anything about and don’t know anything about.
:)</sentencetext>
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