<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_06_1515251</id>
	<title>Microsoft's Risky Tablet Announcement</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1262801400000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>itwbennett writes <i>"The New York Times <a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/05/ahead-of-apple-microsoft-and-hp-to-reveal-slate-pc/">describes the tablet announcement</a> that <a href="http://www.itworld.com/personal-tech/91533/microsoft-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place-tablet-announcement">Steve Ballmer is supposed to make</a> in his CES opening keynote tonight as 'one of Steve Ballmer's riskiest trade show moves in years.' And blogger Peter Smith is in complete agreement. Here's why: 'Whether or not this announcement is intended as a direct response to the much-rumored Apple event that may or may not be happening on January 27th, consumers will perceive it as one,' says Smith. And if Microsoft unveils a traditional tablet then 'they'll be up against the (presumably more expensive) iTablet and the cult of Apple.' But if the device is <a href="http://www.itworld.com/mobile-amp-wireless/78590/microsofts-courier-itablet-killer">the dual-screen Courier</a> that we heard about back in September then it'll be up against the (presumably less expensive) <a href="http://www.itworld.com/personal-tech/88045/entourage-edge-e-reader-and-netbook-rolled-one">enTourage eDGe</a>, says Smith."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>itwbennett writes " The New York Times describes the tablet announcement that Steve Ballmer is supposed to make in his CES opening keynote tonight as 'one of Steve Ballmer 's riskiest trade show moves in years .
' And blogger Peter Smith is in complete agreement .
Here 's why : 'Whether or not this announcement is intended as a direct response to the much-rumored Apple event that may or may not be happening on January 27th , consumers will perceive it as one, ' says Smith .
And if Microsoft unveils a traditional tablet then 'they 'll be up against the ( presumably more expensive ) iTablet and the cult of Apple .
' But if the device is the dual-screen Courier that we heard about back in September then it 'll be up against the ( presumably less expensive ) enTourage eDGe , says Smith .
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<sentencetext>itwbennett writes "The New York Times describes the tablet announcement that Steve Ballmer is supposed to make in his CES opening keynote tonight as 'one of Steve Ballmer's riskiest trade show moves in years.
' And blogger Peter Smith is in complete agreement.
Here's why: 'Whether or not this announcement is intended as a direct response to the much-rumored Apple event that may or may not be happening on January 27th, consumers will perceive it as one,' says Smith.
And if Microsoft unveils a traditional tablet then 'they'll be up against the (presumably more expensive) iTablet and the cult of Apple.
' But if the device is the dual-screen Courier that we heard about back in September then it'll be up against the (presumably less expensive) enTourage eDGe, says Smith.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30677712</id>
	<title>Re:Software</title>
	<author>Buelldozer</author>
	<datestamp>1262787840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>:::blink:::</p><p>Say hooohaw?</p><p>"If the Apple tablet can run iPhone apps it already has a huge advantage over the Microsoft tablet, more so if it can also run OS X apps."</p><p>Sir, I'm sure you'll find that the number of applications available for windows absolutely DWARFS the number of applications available for iPod/iPhone and OS x COMBINED!</p><p>I mean really, did you stop to think before you wrote that?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:::boggle:::</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>: : : blink : : : Say hooohaw ?
" If the Apple tablet can run iPhone apps it already has a huge advantage over the Microsoft tablet , more so if it can also run OS X apps .
" Sir , I 'm sure you 'll find that the number of applications available for windows absolutely DWARFS the number of applications available for iPod/iPhone and OS x COMBINED ! I mean really , did you stop to think before you wrote that ?
: : : boggle : : :</tokentext>
<sentencetext>:::blink:::Say hooohaw?
"If the Apple tablet can run iPhone apps it already has a huge advantage over the Microsoft tablet, more so if it can also run OS X apps.
"Sir, I'm sure you'll find that the number of applications available for windows absolutely DWARFS the number of applications available for iPod/iPhone and OS x COMBINED!I mean really, did you stop to think before you wrote that?
:::boggle:::</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674086</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262768760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Open source tablet exists, the touchbook from alwaysinnovating.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Open source tablet exists , the touchbook from alwaysinnovating .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Open source tablet exists, the touchbook from alwaysinnovating.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30679582</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares?</title>
	<author>SoupIsGoodFood\_42</author>
	<datestamp>1262805780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>iMac, iPod, and iPhone all serve well-defined markets that were established before these specific products were available.</i></p><p>I have to disagree there. MP3 players were pretty niche before the iPod. Same goes for smartphones, although not to the same extent.</p><p><i>What is the iSlate (or whatever) bringing to the table that will have it succeed where others have failed?</i></p><p>A decent interface? The same thing that has made both the iPod and iPhone household names. Not to mention the iTunes store and a strong developer community.</p><p>I'm not sure if Apple's tablet will be as popular as either the iPod or iPhone, but I'm sure it will be a success and ignite the tablet industry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>iMac , iPod , and iPhone all serve well-defined markets that were established before these specific products were available.I have to disagree there .
MP3 players were pretty niche before the iPod .
Same goes for smartphones , although not to the same extent.What is the iSlate ( or whatever ) bringing to the table that will have it succeed where others have failed ? A decent interface ?
The same thing that has made both the iPod and iPhone household names .
Not to mention the iTunes store and a strong developer community.I 'm not sure if Apple 's tablet will be as popular as either the iPod or iPhone , but I 'm sure it will be a success and ignite the tablet industry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iMac, iPod, and iPhone all serve well-defined markets that were established before these specific products were available.I have to disagree there.
MP3 players were pretty niche before the iPod.
Same goes for smartphones, although not to the same extent.What is the iSlate (or whatever) bringing to the table that will have it succeed where others have failed?A decent interface?
The same thing that has made both the iPod and iPhone household names.
Not to mention the iTunes store and a strong developer community.I'm not sure if Apple's tablet will be as popular as either the iPod or iPhone, but I'm sure it will be a success and ignite the tablet industry.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674108</id>
	<title>Re:Oblig.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262768880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>It's a PC that is virtually without limits</i></p></div> </blockquote><p>
So did Bill Gates thought that the PC was limited by the use of keyboards? How quaint.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a PC that is virtually without limits So did Bill Gates thought that the PC was limited by the use of keyboards ?
How quaint .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> It's a PC that is virtually without limits 
So did Bill Gates thought that the PC was limited by the use of keyboards?
How quaint.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673446</id>
	<title>Re:Apple, Microsoft be damned..</title>
	<author>villy</author>
	<datestamp>1262808900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you've (closely) described the OLPC laptop: http://laptop.org/en/laptop/hardware/specs.shtml.</p><p>With some minor design changes, these guys could probably become a major player in the quickly-heating-up tablet/slate market.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you 've ( closely ) described the OLPC laptop : http : //laptop.org/en/laptop/hardware/specs.shtml.With some minor design changes , these guys could probably become a major player in the quickly-heating-up tablet/slate market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you've (closely) described the OLPC laptop: http://laptop.org/en/laptop/hardware/specs.shtml.With some minor design changes, these guys could probably become a major player in the quickly-heating-up tablet/slate market.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673118</id>
	<title>Re:I don't understand...</title>
	<author>Trailrunner7</author>
	<datestamp>1262807580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How exactly can Microsoft be responding to an event that hasn't taken place yet (the Apple tablet announcement)? Is that "pre-sponding"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How exactly can Microsoft be responding to an event that has n't taken place yet ( the Apple tablet announcement ) ?
Is that " pre-sponding " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How exactly can Microsoft be responding to an event that hasn't taken place yet (the Apple tablet announcement)?
Is that "pre-sponding"?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30677312</id>
	<title>Re:The Zune? Nope.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262785080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most of those 17 are different colors of the Nano, which is at a completely different price point.  The Zune HD sells less units than the iTouch, granted, but Amazon won't say by how much.  Personnaly, I find the Zune Pass to be a terrific subscription model, and I think that iPod owners really miss out on that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of those 17 are different colors of the Nano , which is at a completely different price point .
The Zune HD sells less units than the iTouch , granted , but Amazon wo n't say by how much .
Personnaly , I find the Zune Pass to be a terrific subscription model , and I think that iPod owners really miss out on that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of those 17 are different colors of the Nano, which is at a completely different price point.
The Zune HD sells less units than the iTouch, granted, but Amazon won't say by how much.
Personnaly, I find the Zune Pass to be a terrific subscription model, and I think that iPod owners really miss out on that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674426</id>
	<title>Re:They can't even make a decent phone</title>
	<author>It's the tripnaut!</author>
	<datestamp>1262770080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>So what makes Microsoft think that they can make a decent tablet?</i>
<br> <br>
They will probably leverage on the advances that they've gained with multi-touch interfaces courtesy of Microsoft Surface.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So what makes Microsoft think that they can make a decent tablet ?
They will probably leverage on the advances that they 've gained with multi-touch interfaces courtesy of Microsoft Surface .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what makes Microsoft think that they can make a decent tablet?
They will probably leverage on the advances that they've gained with multi-touch interfaces courtesy of Microsoft Surface.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673956</id>
	<title>Re:One thing Microsoft doesn't have</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262811480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A GREAT BIG BUSHY BEARD!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A GREAT BIG BUSHY BEARD !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A GREAT BIG BUSHY BEARD!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30676436</id>
	<title>Re:Apple, Microsoft be damned..</title>
	<author>joh</author>
	<datestamp>1262779800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I swear that sometimes the future is stupidly obvious and these big dumb corporations adamantly try to refuse it.. A $1000 tablet may be a temporary success... but the future is cheap 'netbook' tablets like in Star Trek TNG. The point of a tablet PC is to offer a computing platform that removes the need for paper. Paper is cheap. A dual-screen tablet is the stupidest of the stupid moronic stupid things Microsoft would do..</p></div><p>Excuse me, but you don't get it. People don't want a "computing platform". People care a shit for "computing". People want apps and games and music and movies and newspapers and magazines. As long as you have to call it a computer, it will fail. Believe me, people are sick of computers. They love what they can *do* with them and this is not computing. It's the net (and this means: connecting to other people) and content and fun they're after. The best hard- and software is useless without easy and one-tap access to things and people.</p><p>As long as you think hardware and software is important, you're wrong. It's important as air and water, but once they can breath and drink, people don't want better and faster air and water, they want other things. Then they care for the air and water only if it smells and has the wrong color.</p><p>Well, maybe you meant exactly this. Sorry then.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I swear that sometimes the future is stupidly obvious and these big dumb corporations adamantly try to refuse it.. A $ 1000 tablet may be a temporary success... but the future is cheap 'netbook ' tablets like in Star Trek TNG .
The point of a tablet PC is to offer a computing platform that removes the need for paper .
Paper is cheap .
A dual-screen tablet is the stupidest of the stupid moronic stupid things Microsoft would do..Excuse me , but you do n't get it .
People do n't want a " computing platform " .
People care a shit for " computing " .
People want apps and games and music and movies and newspapers and magazines .
As long as you have to call it a computer , it will fail .
Believe me , people are sick of computers .
They love what they can * do * with them and this is not computing .
It 's the net ( and this means : connecting to other people ) and content and fun they 're after .
The best hard- and software is useless without easy and one-tap access to things and people.As long as you think hardware and software is important , you 're wrong .
It 's important as air and water , but once they can breath and drink , people do n't want better and faster air and water , they want other things .
Then they care for the air and water only if it smells and has the wrong color.Well , maybe you meant exactly this .
Sorry then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I swear that sometimes the future is stupidly obvious and these big dumb corporations adamantly try to refuse it.. A $1000 tablet may be a temporary success... but the future is cheap 'netbook' tablets like in Star Trek TNG.
The point of a tablet PC is to offer a computing platform that removes the need for paper.
Paper is cheap.
A dual-screen tablet is the stupidest of the stupid moronic stupid things Microsoft would do..Excuse me, but you don't get it.
People don't want a "computing platform".
People care a shit for "computing".
People want apps and games and music and movies and newspapers and magazines.
As long as you have to call it a computer, it will fail.
Believe me, people are sick of computers.
They love what they can *do* with them and this is not computing.
It's the net (and this means: connecting to other people) and content and fun they're after.
The best hard- and software is useless without easy and one-tap access to things and people.As long as you think hardware and software is important, you're wrong.
It's important as air and water, but once they can breath and drink, people don't want better and faster air and water, they want other things.
Then they care for the air and water only if it smells and has the wrong color.Well, maybe you meant exactly this.
Sorry then.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673036</id>
	<title>They can't even make a decent phone</title>
	<author>wickerprints</author>
	<datestamp>1262807160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So what makes Microsoft think that they can make a decent tablet?</p><p>Seriously, think about it for a minute.  Forget about all the hype, forget about Apple's tablet (which hasn't even been announced).  Forget about prototypes and mockups.  Look at what we already know for a fact.  Look at the state of Windows Mobile.  How much attention has Microsoft given it?  Now consider what they did to Danger, and the whole Pink debacle spearheaded by Roz Ho.  And look at what they're doing with Bing, trying to compete with Google.  Finally, what happened with the Tablet PC?  Remember those?  I ask you in all honesty:  do you think that Microsoft is actually capable of launching a touchscreen tablet device that is going to provide an elegant, rich, and relatively bug-free user experience?  Do you think that they will put their weight behind a putative MS tablet?</p><p>The problem here is that I have serious reservations about Microsoft's competence as well as their sincerity in developing and supporting such a device.  I look at their track record with past initiatives and all I see are half-baked attempts.  This rumor, if true, totally reeks of desperation, and I would not go near this one with a ten-foot pole.  Such a device would not only have to be freaking amazing, it would have to be available by next month AND it would need to be bug-free, and cheap.  In other words, it would have to be perfect now.  Not in five years.  Otherwise, it'll be a joke.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So what makes Microsoft think that they can make a decent tablet ? Seriously , think about it for a minute .
Forget about all the hype , forget about Apple 's tablet ( which has n't even been announced ) .
Forget about prototypes and mockups .
Look at what we already know for a fact .
Look at the state of Windows Mobile .
How much attention has Microsoft given it ?
Now consider what they did to Danger , and the whole Pink debacle spearheaded by Roz Ho .
And look at what they 're doing with Bing , trying to compete with Google .
Finally , what happened with the Tablet PC ?
Remember those ?
I ask you in all honesty : do you think that Microsoft is actually capable of launching a touchscreen tablet device that is going to provide an elegant , rich , and relatively bug-free user experience ?
Do you think that they will put their weight behind a putative MS tablet ? The problem here is that I have serious reservations about Microsoft 's competence as well as their sincerity in developing and supporting such a device .
I look at their track record with past initiatives and all I see are half-baked attempts .
This rumor , if true , totally reeks of desperation , and I would not go near this one with a ten-foot pole .
Such a device would not only have to be freaking amazing , it would have to be available by next month AND it would need to be bug-free , and cheap .
In other words , it would have to be perfect now .
Not in five years .
Otherwise , it 'll be a joke .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what makes Microsoft think that they can make a decent tablet?Seriously, think about it for a minute.
Forget about all the hype, forget about Apple's tablet (which hasn't even been announced).
Forget about prototypes and mockups.
Look at what we already know for a fact.
Look at the state of Windows Mobile.
How much attention has Microsoft given it?
Now consider what they did to Danger, and the whole Pink debacle spearheaded by Roz Ho.
And look at what they're doing with Bing, trying to compete with Google.
Finally, what happened with the Tablet PC?
Remember those?
I ask you in all honesty:  do you think that Microsoft is actually capable of launching a touchscreen tablet device that is going to provide an elegant, rich, and relatively bug-free user experience?
Do you think that they will put their weight behind a putative MS tablet?The problem here is that I have serious reservations about Microsoft's competence as well as their sincerity in developing and supporting such a device.
I look at their track record with past initiatives and all I see are half-baked attempts.
This rumor, if true, totally reeks of desperation, and I would not go near this one with a ten-foot pole.
Such a device would not only have to be freaking amazing, it would have to be available by next month AND it would need to be bug-free, and cheap.
In other words, it would have to be perfect now.
Not in five years.
Otherwise, it'll be a joke.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673702</id>
	<title>Re:They can't even make a decent phone</title>
	<author>WARM3CH</author>
	<datestamp>1262810280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Finally, what happened with the Tablet PC? Remember those?</p></div><p>Yes, I do. In fact I'm writing this very comment on my Tablet PC running Windows 7.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Finally , what happened with the Tablet PC ?
Remember those ? Yes , I do .
In fact I 'm writing this very comment on my Tablet PC running Windows 7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finally, what happened with the Tablet PC?
Remember those?Yes, I do.
In fact I'm writing this very comment on my Tablet PC running Windows 7.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30676048</id>
	<title>Re:The Zune? Nope.</title>
	<author>pHus10n</author>
	<datestamp>1262777640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Early on, it was due to the accessories (docks on your office desk, car connections, etc).  Now, it's a combination of that and inertia.  Also, "everything" is an iPod now in the sense that all tissue is  Kleenex.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Early on , it was due to the accessories ( docks on your office desk , car connections , etc ) .
Now , it 's a combination of that and inertia .
Also , " everything " is an iPod now in the sense that all tissue is Kleenex .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Early on, it was due to the accessories (docks on your office desk, car connections, etc).
Now, it's a combination of that and inertia.
Also, "everything" is an iPod now in the sense that all tissue is  Kleenex.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673302</id>
	<title>Don't say anything just yet...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262808360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Previous standards of tablets and touch screen devices have either been small (in size or degree of market penetration) or awful devices that never should have been made. These tablets aim to be neither of those, they aim to create a whole new market and class of device. We can't really judge them until we know more about what to expect from the hardware.</p><p>Will Microsoft use a Snapdragon chip, or Intel's new silicon? What would the ramifications of those choices be? What about data storage? RAM? And if they do use Intel processors, will there be a desktop OS, or a port of Windows Mobile? Or a whole new solution? We can only wait and see.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Previous standards of tablets and touch screen devices have either been small ( in size or degree of market penetration ) or awful devices that never should have been made .
These tablets aim to be neither of those , they aim to create a whole new market and class of device .
We ca n't really judge them until we know more about what to expect from the hardware.Will Microsoft use a Snapdragon chip , or Intel 's new silicon ?
What would the ramifications of those choices be ?
What about data storage ?
RAM ? And if they do use Intel processors , will there be a desktop OS , or a port of Windows Mobile ?
Or a whole new solution ?
We can only wait and see .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Previous standards of tablets and touch screen devices have either been small (in size or degree of market penetration) or awful devices that never should have been made.
These tablets aim to be neither of those, they aim to create a whole new market and class of device.
We can't really judge them until we know more about what to expect from the hardware.Will Microsoft use a Snapdragon chip, or Intel's new silicon?
What would the ramifications of those choices be?
What about data storage?
RAM? And if they do use Intel processors, will there be a desktop OS, or a port of Windows Mobile?
Or a whole new solution?
We can only wait and see.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30676668</id>
	<title>Obligatory Cmdr. Taco update</title>
	<author>xactuary</author>
	<datestamp>1262780820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Wireless. More space than a nomad. Still lame."</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Wireless .
More space than a nomad .
Still lame .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Wireless.
More space than a nomad.
Still lame.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672954</id>
	<title>Re:Courier</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1262806860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The huge borders of enTourage eDGe really put me off.</p></div><p>The article says that it's a prototype, and the production version is supposed to be a lot more sleek.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The huge borders of enTourage eDGe really put me off.The article says that it 's a prototype , and the production version is supposed to be a lot more sleek .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The huge borders of enTourage eDGe really put me off.The article says that it's a prototype, and the production version is supposed to be a lot more sleek.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673290</id>
	<title>What announcement?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262808300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What announcement?  MS already has tablets, starting with their release of "Windows XP Tablet PC Edition".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What announcement ?
MS already has tablets , starting with their release of " Windows XP Tablet PC Edition " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What announcement?
MS already has tablets, starting with their release of "Windows XP Tablet PC Edition".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674206</id>
	<title>Re:Apple, Microsoft be damned..</title>
	<author>misexistentialist</author>
	<datestamp>1262769180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>  cost more than $200 ($300 in 2011, $500 in 2012 to account for inflation)</p></div><p>The pricing should go in the other direction, or at least stay the same...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>cost more than $ 200 ( $ 300 in 2011 , $ 500 in 2012 to account for inflation ) The pricing should go in the other direction , or at least stay the same.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  cost more than $200 ($300 in 2011, $500 in 2012 to account for inflation)The pricing should go in the other direction, or at least stay the same...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674192</id>
	<title>Re:I don't understand...</title>
	<author>yakumo.unr</author>
	<datestamp>1262769120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Microsoft has been into much more hardware than that for much longer. Mice, Keyboards etc etc, just not full systems.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft has been into much more hardware than that for much longer .
Mice , Keyboards etc etc , just not full systems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft has been into much more hardware than that for much longer.
Mice, Keyboards etc etc, just not full systems.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673312</id>
	<title>Re:They can't even make a decent phone</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262808420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Parent is correct, but the argument hinges on whether or not you believe Microsoft will throw it's weight behind the new tablet.</p><p>The fact that they have released a number of bad devices does not mean they are incapable of making a good device.  In fact, the "failed experiments" probably give them a much greater insight into what the consumer wants / needs.  (That is if they bothered to take note).</p><p>Consider the obligatory car analogy-  Ford was considered the worst of the US manufacturers for some times.  Before the recession hit, Ford actually learned a lot from their mistakes  (people like cars to be reliable and cheap!  who knew?)  The Ford Focus and Fusion are now reliable and profitable cars.  Ford didn't take nearly the hit the other US manufacturers did.</p><p>To play on their previous performance you would think they wouldn't have been able to correct their mistakes.  But they did.  They realized that the public wouldn't stand for their lack of quality (or percieved lack of quality in some cases) and they set out to correct it.</p><p>I do no know if Microsoft intends to do the same, but I will not say that a tablet from them is a guaranteed failure just because they have failed before.  It is equally likely they actually want to make money and have made changes to make a worth while product. Companies sometimes like to do that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Parent is correct , but the argument hinges on whether or not you believe Microsoft will throw it 's weight behind the new tablet.The fact that they have released a number of bad devices does not mean they are incapable of making a good device .
In fact , the " failed experiments " probably give them a much greater insight into what the consumer wants / needs .
( That is if they bothered to take note ) .Consider the obligatory car analogy- Ford was considered the worst of the US manufacturers for some times .
Before the recession hit , Ford actually learned a lot from their mistakes ( people like cars to be reliable and cheap !
who knew ?
) The Ford Focus and Fusion are now reliable and profitable cars .
Ford did n't take nearly the hit the other US manufacturers did.To play on their previous performance you would think they would n't have been able to correct their mistakes .
But they did .
They realized that the public would n't stand for their lack of quality ( or percieved lack of quality in some cases ) and they set out to correct it.I do no know if Microsoft intends to do the same , but I will not say that a tablet from them is a guaranteed failure just because they have failed before .
It is equally likely they actually want to make money and have made changes to make a worth while product .
Companies sometimes like to do that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Parent is correct, but the argument hinges on whether or not you believe Microsoft will throw it's weight behind the new tablet.The fact that they have released a number of bad devices does not mean they are incapable of making a good device.
In fact, the "failed experiments" probably give them a much greater insight into what the consumer wants / needs.
(That is if they bothered to take note).Consider the obligatory car analogy-  Ford was considered the worst of the US manufacturers for some times.
Before the recession hit, Ford actually learned a lot from their mistakes  (people like cars to be reliable and cheap!
who knew?
)  The Ford Focus and Fusion are now reliable and profitable cars.
Ford didn't take nearly the hit the other US manufacturers did.To play on their previous performance you would think they wouldn't have been able to correct their mistakes.
But they did.
They realized that the public wouldn't stand for their lack of quality (or percieved lack of quality in some cases) and they set out to correct it.I do no know if Microsoft intends to do the same, but I will not say that a tablet from them is a guaranteed failure just because they have failed before.
It is equally likely they actually want to make money and have made changes to make a worth while product.
Companies sometimes like to do that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672630</id>
	<title>Who cares?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262805540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think even Apple cultists will agree that tablets are currently a niche market at best.  iMac, iPod, and iPhone all serve well-defined markets that were established before these specific products were available.  People have tried to push tablets over the years and, to put it mildly, have not met with much success.  What is the iSlate (or whatever) bringing to the table that will have it succeed where others have failed?  I've read all the rumors have have not been particularly impressed; I guess we'll have to wait and see.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think even Apple cultists will agree that tablets are currently a niche market at best .
iMac , iPod , and iPhone all serve well-defined markets that were established before these specific products were available .
People have tried to push tablets over the years and , to put it mildly , have not met with much success .
What is the iSlate ( or whatever ) bringing to the table that will have it succeed where others have failed ?
I 've read all the rumors have have not been particularly impressed ; I guess we 'll have to wait and see .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think even Apple cultists will agree that tablets are currently a niche market at best.
iMac, iPod, and iPhone all serve well-defined markets that were established before these specific products were available.
People have tried to push tablets over the years and, to put it mildly, have not met with much success.
What is the iSlate (or whatever) bringing to the table that will have it succeed where others have failed?
I've read all the rumors have have not been particularly impressed; I guess we'll have to wait and see.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674462</id>
	<title>Re:They can't even make a decent phone</title>
	<author>apoc.famine</author>
	<datestamp>1262770200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm definitely not an apple fanboy, owning no apple products, but you're spot on. <br>
&nbsp; <br>Apple pretty much has the tablet foundation in place with the iPod Touch and iPhone. They have fantastic touch sensitivity, all the software already written, a solid underlying OS, the media codecs, browsers, etc. <br>
&nbsp; <br>How the HELL does MS think they can compete with that? What do they possibly have under wraps which comes within 20\% of what Apple already has? <br>
&nbsp; <br>I hear "Apple Tablet", and think, "2.5x the size of the iPhone, stylus, handwriting recognition, yeah, it'd be pretty sweet". I hear "Microsoft Tablet" and think...... OS? Not any I can think of would be good for a tablet. Good touch screen? None that I can think of. Good mobile software? None that I can think of. <br>
&nbsp; <br>If MS is seriously considering competing with Apple on a tablet, the only way I can see it happening is if they buy Palm, pump a ton of money into R&amp;D, keep their hands off, and slap their name on it when it's done. Trying to pump out some original hardware and software on a short time-frame is stupid to begin with. "Not in five years" indeed. Trying to do so in less time than that, as a response to a pretty mature line of handhelds which are already approaching tablet functionality is just plain stupid. They'll get eaten alive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm definitely not an apple fanboy , owning no apple products , but you 're spot on .
  Apple pretty much has the tablet foundation in place with the iPod Touch and iPhone .
They have fantastic touch sensitivity , all the software already written , a solid underlying OS , the media codecs , browsers , etc .
  How the HELL does MS think they can compete with that ?
What do they possibly have under wraps which comes within 20 \ % of what Apple already has ?
  I hear " Apple Tablet " , and think , " 2.5x the size of the iPhone , stylus , handwriting recognition , yeah , it 'd be pretty sweet " .
I hear " Microsoft Tablet " and think...... OS ? Not any I can think of would be good for a tablet .
Good touch screen ?
None that I can think of .
Good mobile software ?
None that I can think of .
  If MS is seriously considering competing with Apple on a tablet , the only way I can see it happening is if they buy Palm , pump a ton of money into R&amp;D , keep their hands off , and slap their name on it when it 's done .
Trying to pump out some original hardware and software on a short time-frame is stupid to begin with .
" Not in five years " indeed .
Trying to do so in less time than that , as a response to a pretty mature line of handhelds which are already approaching tablet functionality is just plain stupid .
They 'll get eaten alive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm definitely not an apple fanboy, owning no apple products, but you're spot on.
  Apple pretty much has the tablet foundation in place with the iPod Touch and iPhone.
They have fantastic touch sensitivity, all the software already written, a solid underlying OS, the media codecs, browsers, etc.
  How the HELL does MS think they can compete with that?
What do they possibly have under wraps which comes within 20\% of what Apple already has?
  I hear "Apple Tablet", and think, "2.5x the size of the iPhone, stylus, handwriting recognition, yeah, it'd be pretty sweet".
I hear "Microsoft Tablet" and think...... OS? Not any I can think of would be good for a tablet.
Good touch screen?
None that I can think of.
Good mobile software?
None that I can think of.
  If MS is seriously considering competing with Apple on a tablet, the only way I can see it happening is if they buy Palm, pump a ton of money into R&amp;D, keep their hands off, and slap their name on it when it's done.
Trying to pump out some original hardware and software on a short time-frame is stupid to begin with.
"Not in five years" indeed.
Trying to do so in less time than that, as a response to a pretty mature line of handhelds which are already approaching tablet functionality is just plain stupid.
They'll get eaten alive.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30676660</id>
	<title>Re:Year of the tablet</title>
	<author>joh</author>
	<datestamp>1262780760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>2009 was the year of the netbook, 2010 will be the year of the tablet. The problem is, tablets are so niche... and the normal consumer doesn't know.</p></div><p>This is both witty and silly. If you really think that 2011 people  will return to the good old shrunken IBM PC with a fresh coat of paint, you're missing something. The last century was the century of the PC and this will change. Tablets are the future of "computing" at least as far as the consumers are concerned and this means about 90-95\% of the population. Tablets are here to stay and this is only the beginning. In ten years people will look at keyboards and think "unbelievable!". There will be still keyboards, of course. Programmers, secretaries and writers will use them. Nobody else, though.</p><p>It won't be the year of the tablet, it will be the first year of the tablet and this will only stop with speech recognition becoming the main method of interaction with machines. At least I hope so. Maybe the fscking future is finally here, it took long enough.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>2009 was the year of the netbook , 2010 will be the year of the tablet .
The problem is , tablets are so niche... and the normal consumer does n't know.This is both witty and silly .
If you really think that 2011 people will return to the good old shrunken IBM PC with a fresh coat of paint , you 're missing something .
The last century was the century of the PC and this will change .
Tablets are the future of " computing " at least as far as the consumers are concerned and this means about 90-95 \ % of the population .
Tablets are here to stay and this is only the beginning .
In ten years people will look at keyboards and think " unbelievable ! " .
There will be still keyboards , of course .
Programmers , secretaries and writers will use them .
Nobody else , though.It wo n't be the year of the tablet , it will be the first year of the tablet and this will only stop with speech recognition becoming the main method of interaction with machines .
At least I hope so .
Maybe the fscking future is finally here , it took long enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2009 was the year of the netbook, 2010 will be the year of the tablet.
The problem is, tablets are so niche... and the normal consumer doesn't know.This is both witty and silly.
If you really think that 2011 people  will return to the good old shrunken IBM PC with a fresh coat of paint, you're missing something.
The last century was the century of the PC and this will change.
Tablets are the future of "computing" at least as far as the consumers are concerned and this means about 90-95\% of the population.
Tablets are here to stay and this is only the beginning.
In ten years people will look at keyboards and think "unbelievable!".
There will be still keyboards, of course.
Programmers, secretaries and writers will use them.
Nobody else, though.It won't be the year of the tablet, it will be the first year of the tablet and this will only stop with speech recognition becoming the main method of interaction with machines.
At least I hope so.
Maybe the fscking future is finally here, it took long enough.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30675612</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1262775660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Meanwhile here I'll sit with my eeePC running some flavor of Linux wondering when I'll get a tablet that provides support for open source."<br>Buy a Nokia tablet/mid</p><p>And I am not sure that a Microsoft tablet will turn a profit.  Not everything Microsoft does turns to gold and not everything Microsoft does is crap.<br>I am no Microsoft fanboi. In fact I am a big Linux fan but.<br>Microsoft Sync is a very nice bit of kit.<br>Microsoft FSX is a very good program.<br>The new ZuneHD is a good media player and the ZunePass is very tempting.<br>BTW the reason that people are gobbing up the 360 is because of the games. The 360 has a bigger and a lot of people feel better game library than the PS3. Also a lot of users feel the online services are better than those offered by Sony for the PS3 and much better than those offered for the Wii. The reason why the 360 sells is the same reason why Windows sells. Software.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Meanwhile here I 'll sit with my eeePC running some flavor of Linux wondering when I 'll get a tablet that provides support for open source .
" Buy a Nokia tablet/midAnd I am not sure that a Microsoft tablet will turn a profit .
Not everything Microsoft does turns to gold and not everything Microsoft does is crap.I am no Microsoft fanboi .
In fact I am a big Linux fan but.Microsoft Sync is a very nice bit of kit.Microsoft FSX is a very good program.The new ZuneHD is a good media player and the ZunePass is very tempting.BTW the reason that people are gobbing up the 360 is because of the games .
The 360 has a bigger and a lot of people feel better game library than the PS3 .
Also a lot of users feel the online services are better than those offered by Sony for the PS3 and much better than those offered for the Wii .
The reason why the 360 sells is the same reason why Windows sells .
Software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Meanwhile here I'll sit with my eeePC running some flavor of Linux wondering when I'll get a tablet that provides support for open source.
"Buy a Nokia tablet/midAnd I am not sure that a Microsoft tablet will turn a profit.
Not everything Microsoft does turns to gold and not everything Microsoft does is crap.I am no Microsoft fanboi.
In fact I am a big Linux fan but.Microsoft Sync is a very nice bit of kit.Microsoft FSX is a very good program.The new ZuneHD is a good media player and the ZunePass is very tempting.BTW the reason that people are gobbing up the 360 is because of the games.
The 360 has a bigger and a lot of people feel better game library than the PS3.
Also a lot of users feel the online services are better than those offered by Sony for the PS3 and much better than those offered for the Wii.
The reason why the 360 sells is the same reason why Windows sells.
Software.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30676472</id>
	<title>Re:I don't understand...</title>
	<author>ucblockhead</author>
	<datestamp>1262780040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why?  Because every time a person buys a MacBook instead of a Dell, Microsoft loses $40 in sales, and this is happening more and more often, primarily because Apple has been successful with getting people to go through the iPod-&gt;MacBook transition.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ?
Because every time a person buys a MacBook instead of a Dell , Microsoft loses $ 40 in sales , and this is happening more and more often , primarily because Apple has been successful with getting people to go through the iPod- &gt; MacBook transition .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why?
Because every time a person buys a MacBook instead of a Dell, Microsoft loses $40 in sales, and this is happening more and more often, primarily because Apple has been successful with getting people to go through the iPod-&gt;MacBook transition.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673696</id>
	<title>Re:Apple, Microsoft be damned..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262810280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>use front surface area for anything other than a screen</i></p><p>Other than this, I'd agree. I've been after something along the lines of a giant ipod touch for many years now. Technology is gradually getting to the point where it is feasible for a sane price. I don't want a keyboard, because I don't want a laptop replacement. I desire a media consumption device that lets me do things like: cruise the web, read comics, read books, show photos, watch tv and dvd rips etc, maybe handle audio. Screen navigation is all that's needed for this simple functionality, just use a modern smartphone to see how well it works (most of the time). Alas, these phone's are too small for what I have in mind. A screen about the size of a sheet of letter/A4 fold in half would do.</p><p>Other people will have different ideas about how these mythical devices should behave for their needs. Some believe they're laptop replacements, or want to go that way.</p><p>Waterproof would be excellent but it'll never happen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>use front surface area for anything other than a screenOther than this , I 'd agree .
I 've been after something along the lines of a giant ipod touch for many years now .
Technology is gradually getting to the point where it is feasible for a sane price .
I do n't want a keyboard , because I do n't want a laptop replacement .
I desire a media consumption device that lets me do things like : cruise the web , read comics , read books , show photos , watch tv and dvd rips etc , maybe handle audio .
Screen navigation is all that 's needed for this simple functionality , just use a modern smartphone to see how well it works ( most of the time ) .
Alas , these phone 's are too small for what I have in mind .
A screen about the size of a sheet of letter/A4 fold in half would do.Other people will have different ideas about how these mythical devices should behave for their needs .
Some believe they 're laptop replacements , or want to go that way.Waterproof would be excellent but it 'll never happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>use front surface area for anything other than a screenOther than this, I'd agree.
I've been after something along the lines of a giant ipod touch for many years now.
Technology is gradually getting to the point where it is feasible for a sane price.
I don't want a keyboard, because I don't want a laptop replacement.
I desire a media consumption device that lets me do things like: cruise the web, read comics, read books, show photos, watch tv and dvd rips etc, maybe handle audio.
Screen navigation is all that's needed for this simple functionality, just use a modern smartphone to see how well it works (most of the time).
Alas, these phone's are too small for what I have in mind.
A screen about the size of a sheet of letter/A4 fold in half would do.Other people will have different ideas about how these mythical devices should behave for their needs.
Some believe they're laptop replacements, or want to go that way.Waterproof would be excellent but it'll never happen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672660</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>psbrogna</author>
	<datestamp>1262805660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Garnering majority market share may be a given but making a profit at it is is not and should be considered an independent variable. They spend a metric-butt-ton of money on marketing getting the market share AND they subsidize costs of entry (and even consumer costs; ie. selling a STB below cost) with other parts of the empire (ie. making a profit on titles when they sell a STB  cost). While your evidence is compelling, it supports the former case (market lead) and not the latter (profitability).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Garnering majority market share may be a given but making a profit at it is is not and should be considered an independent variable .
They spend a metric-butt-ton of money on marketing getting the market share AND they subsidize costs of entry ( and even consumer costs ; ie .
selling a STB below cost ) with other parts of the empire ( ie .
making a profit on titles when they sell a STB cost ) .
While your evidence is compelling , it supports the former case ( market lead ) and not the latter ( profitability ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Garnering majority market share may be a given but making a profit at it is is not and should be considered an independent variable.
They spend a metric-butt-ton of money on marketing getting the market share AND they subsidize costs of entry (and even consumer costs; ie.
selling a STB below cost) with other parts of the empire (ie.
making a profit on titles when they sell a STB  cost).
While your evidence is compelling, it supports the former case (market lead) and not the latter (profitability).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673104</id>
	<title>Re:I don't understand...</title>
	<author>onefriedrice</author>
	<datestamp>1262807520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>... the only software they make is variations of OS X for all their hardware devices</p></div><p>Um, no... Apple produces a <i>lot</i> of different software products.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... the only software they make is variations of OS X for all their hardware devicesUm , no... Apple produces a lot of different software products .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... the only software they make is variations of OS X for all their hardware devicesUm, no... Apple produces a lot of different software products.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30675974</id>
	<title>Re:They can't even make a decent phone</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1262777160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A few things of note:</p><p>1) Windows 7 supports multi-touch, including pinch-to-zoom and drag-to-scroll. Naturally, this is fully exposed to third-party applications via normal input APIs.</p><p>2) WPF 4 in particular has a rather <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/jaimer/archive/2009/11/04/introduction-to-wpf-4-multitouch.aspx" title="msdn.com">high-level API</a> [msdn.com] for multi-touch.</p><p>So all the basic software building blocks are already in place. For the same reason, I wouldn't expect to see WinMo (or anything WinCE-based) there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A few things of note : 1 ) Windows 7 supports multi-touch , including pinch-to-zoom and drag-to-scroll .
Naturally , this is fully exposed to third-party applications via normal input APIs.2 ) WPF 4 in particular has a rather high-level API [ msdn.com ] for multi-touch.So all the basic software building blocks are already in place .
For the same reason , I would n't expect to see WinMo ( or anything WinCE-based ) there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A few things of note:1) Windows 7 supports multi-touch, including pinch-to-zoom and drag-to-scroll.
Naturally, this is fully exposed to third-party applications via normal input APIs.2) WPF 4 in particular has a rather high-level API [msdn.com] for multi-touch.So all the basic software building blocks are already in place.
For the same reason, I wouldn't expect to see WinMo (or anything WinCE-based) there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30709708</id>
	<title>Re:"me too! me too!" shout little Billy &amp; Stev</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263031980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.kmfms.com/whatsbad.html#vaporware" title="kmfms.com" rel="nofollow">Absolutely.</a> [kmfms.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Absolutely .
[ kmfms.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Absolutely.
[kmfms.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673468</id>
	<title>Re:Apple, Microsoft be damned..</title>
	<author>Kelz</author>
	<datestamp>1262809020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Half the meaningful web is in flash, ajax, and a bunch of other stuff that doesn't run smoothly on a 400mhz small-profile CPU, especially on XP. A version of 7 should be modular enough to scale with the processing power. PROPER touch-sceens, resistive or capacitive, especially in a high enough resolution to be called a tablet don't come as cheap as you'd like to think, and if the performance is crap it won't catch on. We're just coming to the point where we can stick enough juice into a screen big enough to call it a tablet. Give them SOME credit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Half the meaningful web is in flash , ajax , and a bunch of other stuff that does n't run smoothly on a 400mhz small-profile CPU , especially on XP .
A version of 7 should be modular enough to scale with the processing power .
PROPER touch-sceens , resistive or capacitive , especially in a high enough resolution to be called a tablet do n't come as cheap as you 'd like to think , and if the performance is crap it wo n't catch on .
We 're just coming to the point where we can stick enough juice into a screen big enough to call it a tablet .
Give them SOME credit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Half the meaningful web is in flash, ajax, and a bunch of other stuff that doesn't run smoothly on a 400mhz small-profile CPU, especially on XP.
A version of 7 should be modular enough to scale with the processing power.
PROPER touch-sceens, resistive or capacitive, especially in a high enough resolution to be called a tablet don't come as cheap as you'd like to think, and if the performance is crap it won't catch on.
We're just coming to the point where we can stick enough juice into a screen big enough to call it a tablet.
Give them SOME credit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673866</id>
	<title>Re:Apple, Microsoft be damned..</title>
	<author>rxan</author>
	<datestamp>1262811060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The point of tablet PCs is not to remove the need for paper. You're thinking of electronic readers.</p><p>The point of tablet PCs is to have a form factor that is usable in something other than the standard desktop/laptop arrangements (sitting at a desk, sitting with the laptop on you, laying down with a laptop in front). These settings force us to conform to the computers, when they should be conforming to us.</p><p>The laptop advanced computing by making it mobile, but it also crippled its usability due to tech available at the time of its conception. The tablet would solve a lot of these problems aside from text entry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The point of tablet PCs is not to remove the need for paper .
You 're thinking of electronic readers.The point of tablet PCs is to have a form factor that is usable in something other than the standard desktop/laptop arrangements ( sitting at a desk , sitting with the laptop on you , laying down with a laptop in front ) .
These settings force us to conform to the computers , when they should be conforming to us.The laptop advanced computing by making it mobile , but it also crippled its usability due to tech available at the time of its conception .
The tablet would solve a lot of these problems aside from text entry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The point of tablet PCs is not to remove the need for paper.
You're thinking of electronic readers.The point of tablet PCs is to have a form factor that is usable in something other than the standard desktop/laptop arrangements (sitting at a desk, sitting with the laptop on you, laying down with a laptop in front).
These settings force us to conform to the computers, when they should be conforming to us.The laptop advanced computing by making it mobile, but it also crippled its usability due to tech available at the time of its conception.
The tablet would solve a lot of these problems aside from text entry.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673128</id>
	<title>Oblig.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262807640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"The Tablet takes cutting-edge PC technology and makes it available wherever you want it, which is why I'm already using a Tablet as my everyday computer. It's a PC that is virtually without limits -- and within five years I predict it will be the most popular form of PC sold in America."</p></div><p>Bill Gates, 2001</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The Tablet takes cutting-edge PC technology and makes it available wherever you want it , which is why I 'm already using a Tablet as my everyday computer .
It 's a PC that is virtually without limits -- and within five years I predict it will be the most popular form of PC sold in America .
" Bill Gates , 2001</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The Tablet takes cutting-edge PC technology and makes it available wherever you want it, which is why I'm already using a Tablet as my everyday computer.
It's a PC that is virtually without limits -- and within five years I predict it will be the most popular form of PC sold in America.
"Bill Gates, 2001
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674092</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to media objectivity?</title>
	<author>dasmoo</author>
	<datestamp>1262768820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think me-too in this case means "just another tablet", whereas apple wouldn't bother making one of these kinda devices. If ballmer gets up on stage and shows just another tablet, and jobs gets on stage and blows everyone away, ballmer will look like a dick.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think me-too in this case means " just another tablet " , whereas apple would n't bother making one of these kinda devices .
If ballmer gets up on stage and shows just another tablet , and jobs gets on stage and blows everyone away , ballmer will look like a dick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think me-too in this case means "just another tablet", whereas apple wouldn't bother making one of these kinda devices.
If ballmer gets up on stage and shows just another tablet, and jobs gets on stage and blows everyone away, ballmer will look like a dick.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674772</id>
	<title>Re:I don't understand...</title>
	<author>SoupIsGoodFood\_42</author>
	<datestamp>1262771880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple isn't a hardware or a software company. Do people still not get this? They make complete systems. Both hardware and software are just as important to them.</p><p>They also make plenty of software that isn't the base OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple is n't a hardware or a software company .
Do people still not get this ?
They make complete systems .
Both hardware and software are just as important to them.They also make plenty of software that is n't the base OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple isn't a hardware or a software company.
Do people still not get this?
They make complete systems.
Both hardware and software are just as important to them.They also make plenty of software that isn't the base OS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673148</id>
	<title>The Zune?  Nope.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262807700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to Amazon's best seller list the top *17* music players are made by Apple. Numbers 18 &amp; 19 are Sandisks.  Then comes another iPod. Zune is the 21st in popularity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to Amazon 's best seller list the top * 17 * music players are made by Apple .
Numbers 18 &amp; 19 are Sandisks .
Then comes another iPod .
Zune is the 21st in popularity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to Amazon's best seller list the top *17* music players are made by Apple.
Numbers 18 &amp; 19 are Sandisks.
Then comes another iPod.
Zune is the 21st in popularity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673552</id>
	<title>Re:I don't understand...</title>
	<author>whisper\_jeff</author>
	<datestamp>1262809440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd wager it's because they've seen the writing on the wall and know that their days as the dominant force in the software market are numbered and their only hope of longterm viability is to diversify. With well-funded, experienced, intelligent, and innovative companies (Google, first and foremost among them) directly attacking Microsoft's core business, it's only a matter of time before one of them succeeds. Microsoft probably wants to make sure their house of cards doesn't completely collapse if/when that happens.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd wager it 's because they 've seen the writing on the wall and know that their days as the dominant force in the software market are numbered and their only hope of longterm viability is to diversify .
With well-funded , experienced , intelligent , and innovative companies ( Google , first and foremost among them ) directly attacking Microsoft 's core business , it 's only a matter of time before one of them succeeds .
Microsoft probably wants to make sure their house of cards does n't completely collapse if/when that happens .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd wager it's because they've seen the writing on the wall and know that their days as the dominant force in the software market are numbered and their only hope of longterm viability is to diversify.
With well-funded, experienced, intelligent, and innovative companies (Google, first and foremost among them) directly attacking Microsoft's core business, it's only a matter of time before one of them succeeds.
Microsoft probably wants to make sure their house of cards doesn't completely collapse if/when that happens.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674260</id>
	<title>Re:Apple, Microsoft be damned..</title>
	<author>AlizarinCrimson</author>
	<datestamp>1262769300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My \_portable\_ tablet pc would in fact be radically different from yours. Since the only use I have for such a device would be art; as such it would need pressure sensitivity, a pen; have reasonably powerful hardware underneath the hood.</p><p>What you want seems closer to an iPod than anything...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My \ _portable \ _ tablet pc would in fact be radically different from yours .
Since the only use I have for such a device would be art ; as such it would need pressure sensitivity , a pen ; have reasonably powerful hardware underneath the hood.What you want seems closer to an iPod than anything.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My \_portable\_ tablet pc would in fact be radically different from yours.
Since the only use I have for such a device would be art; as such it would need pressure sensitivity, a pen; have reasonably powerful hardware underneath the hood.What you want seems closer to an iPod than anything...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674058</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1262768640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah the 360 is quality. It's not like they're prone to breaking or anything.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah the 360 is quality .
It 's not like they 're prone to breaking or anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah the 360 is quality.
It's not like they're prone to breaking or anything.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30678602</id>
	<title>Re:Year of the tablet</title>
	<author>mgblst</author>
	<datestamp>1262795100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The netbook was niche, until everybody started buying them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The netbook was niche , until everybody started buying them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The netbook was niche, until everybody started buying them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673158</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>mr\_lizard13</author>
	<datestamp>1262807760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Well, surely all those consumers will see through this ruse just like they did when Microsoft released the Zune<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... oh, wait, that's still being shoved down our throats and people are still buying it.</p></div><p>
It all worked up until that point...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , surely all those consumers will see through this ruse just like they did when Microsoft released the Zune ... oh , wait , that 's still being shoved down our throats and people are still buying it .
It all worked up until that point.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, surely all those consumers will see through this ruse just like they did when Microsoft released the Zune ... oh, wait, that's still being shoved down our throats and people are still buying it.
It all worked up until that point...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672864</id>
	<title>Software</title>
	<author>kehren77</author>
	<datestamp>1262806500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But what about software for it. I think part of the anticipation of the Apple tablet is that it will be a larger iPod Touch with added functionality. If the Apple tablet can run iPhone apps it already has a huge advantage over the Microsoft tablet, more so if it can also run OS X apps.</p><p>What software would the Microsoft tablet run? Windows 7? It will have all the speed of a netbook. Windows Mobile? It will be DOA if it runs Windows Mobile.</p><p>As a side note, how much do you want to bet that Microsoft somehow tries to connect their tablet to Xbox Live?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But what about software for it .
I think part of the anticipation of the Apple tablet is that it will be a larger iPod Touch with added functionality .
If the Apple tablet can run iPhone apps it already has a huge advantage over the Microsoft tablet , more so if it can also run OS X apps.What software would the Microsoft tablet run ?
Windows 7 ?
It will have all the speed of a netbook .
Windows Mobile ?
It will be DOA if it runs Windows Mobile.As a side note , how much do you want to bet that Microsoft somehow tries to connect their tablet to Xbox Live ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But what about software for it.
I think part of the anticipation of the Apple tablet is that it will be a larger iPod Touch with added functionality.
If the Apple tablet can run iPhone apps it already has a huge advantage over the Microsoft tablet, more so if it can also run OS X apps.What software would the Microsoft tablet run?
Windows 7?
It will have all the speed of a netbook.
Windows Mobile?
It will be DOA if it runs Windows Mobile.As a side note, how much do you want to bet that Microsoft somehow tries to connect their tablet to Xbox Live?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674308</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>bonch</author>
	<datestamp>1262769540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Meanwhile here I'll sit with my eeePC running some flavor of Linux wondering when I'll get a tablet that provides support for open source.</p></div></blockquote><p>As long as Linux continues to suck ass as a desktop operating system, the answer will be never.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Meanwhile here I 'll sit with my eeePC running some flavor of Linux wondering when I 'll get a tablet that provides support for open source.As long as Linux continues to suck ass as a desktop operating system , the answer will be never .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meanwhile here I'll sit with my eeePC running some flavor of Linux wondering when I'll get a tablet that provides support for open source.As long as Linux continues to suck ass as a desktop operating system, the answer will be never.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672850</id>
	<title>What happened to media objectivity?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262806440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The NYT article is ridiculous. Granted Apple will probably release a tablet like device or at least announce it in the next month or so. However how can MS/HP announce a me-too device without there being a device to emulate?

What's unfortunate is that as usual the Mac boosters in the media who believe that the Mac is the be all for all users are going to pass judgement on this device by comparing it to the mythical Apple tablet. It's like comparing a good race horse to a unicorn sure that horse is fast, but it's not a magical and can't fly. (Granted Apple may deliver a unicorn, but the point is it just doesn't exist yet however cool it may be)</htmltext>
<tokenext>The NYT article is ridiculous .
Granted Apple will probably release a tablet like device or at least announce it in the next month or so .
However how can MS/HP announce a me-too device without there being a device to emulate ?
What 's unfortunate is that as usual the Mac boosters in the media who believe that the Mac is the be all for all users are going to pass judgement on this device by comparing it to the mythical Apple tablet .
It 's like comparing a good race horse to a unicorn sure that horse is fast , but it 's not a magical and ca n't fly .
( Granted Apple may deliver a unicorn , but the point is it just does n't exist yet however cool it may be )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The NYT article is ridiculous.
Granted Apple will probably release a tablet like device or at least announce it in the next month or so.
However how can MS/HP announce a me-too device without there being a device to emulate?
What's unfortunate is that as usual the Mac boosters in the media who believe that the Mac is the be all for all users are going to pass judgement on this device by comparing it to the mythical Apple tablet.
It's like comparing a good race horse to a unicorn sure that horse is fast, but it's not a magical and can't fly.
(Granted Apple may deliver a unicorn, but the point is it just doesn't exist yet however cool it may be)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672818</id>
	<title>Re:Old Story</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262806320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>tablet pc might be a no go for the masses, but it would certainly fill a niche market -</p><p>as an illustrator, i love being able to draw directly on my screen. the only problem with proposed modern tablets is that they're all aiming for a 10-11 inch screen - that's the no go for me. i have a toshiba satellite r15 tablet, and it's got a 14 inch screen - anything smaller just wouldn't be workable as a canvas.</p><p>something like a wacom just isn't the same - i don't like the disconnect between where i'm drawing and where my lines appear.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>tablet pc might be a no go for the masses , but it would certainly fill a niche market -as an illustrator , i love being able to draw directly on my screen .
the only problem with proposed modern tablets is that they 're all aiming for a 10-11 inch screen - that 's the no go for me .
i have a toshiba satellite r15 tablet , and it 's got a 14 inch screen - anything smaller just would n't be workable as a canvas.something like a wacom just is n't the same - i do n't like the disconnect between where i 'm drawing and where my lines appear .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>tablet pc might be a no go for the masses, but it would certainly fill a niche market -as an illustrator, i love being able to draw directly on my screen.
the only problem with proposed modern tablets is that they're all aiming for a 10-11 inch screen - that's the no go for me.
i have a toshiba satellite r15 tablet, and it's got a 14 inch screen - anything smaller just wouldn't be workable as a canvas.something like a wacom just isn't the same - i don't like the disconnect between where i'm drawing and where my lines appear.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672726</id>
	<title>1st vendor to release a PADD from TNG gets my $</title>
	<author>Vandil X</author>
	<datestamp>1262805900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Including the ability for me to skin the UI with an LCARS theme without "jailbreaking" or flashing custom firmware.
<br> <br>
I'm serious.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Including the ability for me to skin the UI with an LCARS theme without " jailbreaking " or flashing custom firmware .
I 'm serious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Including the ability for me to skin the UI with an LCARS theme without "jailbreaking" or flashing custom firmware.
I'm serious.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673258</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>Nadaka</author>
	<datestamp>1262808120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tablet supporting open source? Have you looked at the Touch Book by always innovating? It is a hybrid netbook/tablet with a touch screen that docks with a keyboard unit that run an angstrom linux distro. Last news I heard was they shipped a few hundred of the first release and are currently accumulating orders for a second production run.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tablet supporting open source ?
Have you looked at the Touch Book by always innovating ?
It is a hybrid netbook/tablet with a touch screen that docks with a keyboard unit that run an angstrom linux distro .
Last news I heard was they shipped a few hundred of the first release and are currently accumulating orders for a second production run .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tablet supporting open source?
Have you looked at the Touch Book by always innovating?
It is a hybrid netbook/tablet with a touch screen that docks with a keyboard unit that run an angstrom linux distro.
Last news I heard was they shipped a few hundred of the first release and are currently accumulating orders for a second production run.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30675088</id>
	<title>Re:1st vendor to release a PADD from TNG gets my $</title>
	<author>TheQuantumShift</author>
	<datestamp>1262773320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Including the non-existence of networking? Remember how they'd all have stacks of the things and have people actually delivering them about the ship? And yes, I'd buy one too. Guess the Tricorder app from the android market will have to do for now...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Including the non-existence of networking ?
Remember how they 'd all have stacks of the things and have people actually delivering them about the ship ?
And yes , I 'd buy one too .
Guess the Tricorder app from the android market will have to do for now.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Including the non-existence of networking?
Remember how they'd all have stacks of the things and have people actually delivering them about the ship?
And yes, I'd buy one too.
Guess the Tricorder app from the android market will have to do for now...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673494</id>
	<title>Re:Apple, Microsoft be damned..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262809200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>200 to 500 in inflation in 2 years?  I sure hope not.  If you think the current recession is bad that would be great depression bad...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>200 to 500 in inflation in 2 years ?
I sure hope not .
If you think the current recession is bad that would be great depression bad.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>200 to 500 in inflation in 2 years?
I sure hope not.
If you think the current recession is bad that would be great depression bad...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673480</id>
	<title>Re:Software</title>
	<author>abigsmurf</author>
	<datestamp>1262809140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why would I want to run iphone apps on a tablet? I lose the portability and gain... blurry upscaled graphics? Apps designed for finger tips on a single hand become a nightmare to use too when the screen is 3-4 times as big.
<br> <br>
Tablets have been tried over and over. If people want the portability, they'll get a netbook or a PDA/smartphone. Tablets are awkward to carry, painful to use for any real work and are mix of both sets of disadvantages from PDAs and Netbooks.
<br> <br>
What can I use a tablet for where a e-book reader, PDA or netbook wouldn't be more appropriate?
<br> <br>
As a side note, how much do you want to bet Apple somehow tries to tie their tablet to itunes?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would I want to run iphone apps on a tablet ?
I lose the portability and gain... blurry upscaled graphics ?
Apps designed for finger tips on a single hand become a nightmare to use too when the screen is 3-4 times as big .
Tablets have been tried over and over .
If people want the portability , they 'll get a netbook or a PDA/smartphone .
Tablets are awkward to carry , painful to use for any real work and are mix of both sets of disadvantages from PDAs and Netbooks .
What can I use a tablet for where a e-book reader , PDA or netbook would n't be more appropriate ?
As a side note , how much do you want to bet Apple somehow tries to tie their tablet to itunes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would I want to run iphone apps on a tablet?
I lose the portability and gain... blurry upscaled graphics?
Apps designed for finger tips on a single hand become a nightmare to use too when the screen is 3-4 times as big.
Tablets have been tried over and over.
If people want the portability, they'll get a netbook or a PDA/smartphone.
Tablets are awkward to carry, painful to use for any real work and are mix of both sets of disadvantages from PDAs and Netbooks.
What can I use a tablet for where a e-book reader, PDA or netbook wouldn't be more appropriate?
As a side note, how much do you want to bet Apple somehow tries to tie their tablet to itunes?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673322</id>
	<title>Re:I don't understand...</title>
	<author>insufflate10mg</author>
	<datestamp>1262808480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You make valid points, but it is the nature of the game you're ignoring.  Microsoft does specialize in software while Apple is more hardware-based, but Microsoft's main product regardless has been most affected by Apple's software.  Likewise, Apple's hardware along with their software solutions have always dealt with Microsoft as their main competition.

The rivalry is just huge, and any strategically-sound opportunities to directly impact each other are usually taken advantage of.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You make valid points , but it is the nature of the game you 're ignoring .
Microsoft does specialize in software while Apple is more hardware-based , but Microsoft 's main product regardless has been most affected by Apple 's software .
Likewise , Apple 's hardware along with their software solutions have always dealt with Microsoft as their main competition .
The rivalry is just huge , and any strategically-sound opportunities to directly impact each other are usually taken advantage of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You make valid points, but it is the nature of the game you're ignoring.
Microsoft does specialize in software while Apple is more hardware-based, but Microsoft's main product regardless has been most affected by Apple's software.
Likewise, Apple's hardware along with their software solutions have always dealt with Microsoft as their main competition.
The rivalry is just huge, and any strategically-sound opportunities to directly impact each other are usually taken advantage of.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674622</id>
	<title>Re:The Zune? Nope.</title>
	<author>jd2112</author>
	<datestamp>1262770920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've only seen one Zune 'In the wild' (outside of store display cases) so they aren't selling well and the few that have been sold are usually hidden to hide the mark of shame of owning a Zune.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've only seen one Zune 'In the wild ' ( outside of store display cases ) so they are n't selling well and the few that have been sold are usually hidden to hide the mark of shame of owning a Zune .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've only seen one Zune 'In the wild' (outside of store display cases) so they aren't selling well and the few that have been sold are usually hidden to hide the mark of shame of owning a Zune.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30676948</id>
	<title>Clearly</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1262782560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>MS is going to announce that they are providing the OS for Apples new tablet~</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>MS is going to announce that they are providing the OS for Apples new tablet ~</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MS is going to announce that they are providing the OS for Apples new tablet~</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673344</id>
	<title>"me too! me too!" shout little Billy &amp; Stevey</title>
	<author>peter303</author>
	<datestamp>1262808600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is got to be the longest-running MicroSoft joke: announcing vaporware as soon as a competitor does.  Windows is the classic example: announced in 1984 when the Mac graphical interface was delivered.  But not an usuable version until 3.1 six years later.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is got to be the longest-running MicroSoft joke : announcing vaporware as soon as a competitor does .
Windows is the classic example : announced in 1984 when the Mac graphical interface was delivered .
But not an usuable version until 3.1 six years later .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is got to be the longest-running MicroSoft joke: announcing vaporware as soon as a competitor does.
Windows is the classic example: announced in 1984 when the Mac graphical interface was delivered.
But not an usuable version until 3.1 six years later.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673650</id>
	<title>Re:Apple, Microsoft be damned..</title>
	<author>bradt</author>
	<datestamp>1262809980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sounds to me like what you want is a modern-day <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton\_(platform)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Newton</a> [wikipedia.org] priced like the iPod Touch!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds to me like what you want is a modern-day Newton [ wikipedia.org ] priced like the iPod Touch !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds to me like what you want is a modern-day Newton [wikipedia.org] priced like the iPod Touch!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672974</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1262806920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nope, It's ballmers Senility kicking in.  This is Microsoft 4th reintroduction of the tablet PC.  Every one has been an utter failure, and this one will be as well.</p><p>If I cant get 10 hours of full performance run time from these things, I.E. On and running at full speed the ENTIRE WORKDAY on a single charge then it's a piece of crap.   I have owned every Tablet pc from the Very first Dauphin DTR-1 and they all SUCK for usefulness because of the lack of run time per charge.</p><p>If the iSlate is NOT A pc but a giant version of the iPod touch and can deliver 3X the battery life of one then it will start to be a useful device.  but it has to have the ability for me to use it as a virtual legal pad.  Screw handwriting recognition, that's simply a dog and pony show that never works.</p><p>Now give me a camera on the face pointing at me and a software app to do videoconferencing from it.</p><p>I dont care who makes it (I prefer non apple so it will at least display and allow markup on the evil Office suite files)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nope , It 's ballmers Senility kicking in .
This is Microsoft 4th reintroduction of the tablet PC .
Every one has been an utter failure , and this one will be as well.If I cant get 10 hours of full performance run time from these things , I.E .
On and running at full speed the ENTIRE WORKDAY on a single charge then it 's a piece of crap .
I have owned every Tablet pc from the Very first Dauphin DTR-1 and they all SUCK for usefulness because of the lack of run time per charge.If the iSlate is NOT A pc but a giant version of the iPod touch and can deliver 3X the battery life of one then it will start to be a useful device .
but it has to have the ability for me to use it as a virtual legal pad .
Screw handwriting recognition , that 's simply a dog and pony show that never works.Now give me a camera on the face pointing at me and a software app to do videoconferencing from it.I dont care who makes it ( I prefer non apple so it will at least display and allow markup on the evil Office suite files )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nope, It's ballmers Senility kicking in.
This is Microsoft 4th reintroduction of the tablet PC.
Every one has been an utter failure, and this one will be as well.If I cant get 10 hours of full performance run time from these things, I.E.
On and running at full speed the ENTIRE WORKDAY on a single charge then it's a piece of crap.
I have owned every Tablet pc from the Very first Dauphin DTR-1 and they all SUCK for usefulness because of the lack of run time per charge.If the iSlate is NOT A pc but a giant version of the iPod touch and can deliver 3X the battery life of one then it will start to be a useful device.
but it has to have the ability for me to use it as a virtual legal pad.
Screw handwriting recognition, that's simply a dog and pony show that never works.Now give me a camera on the face pointing at me and a software app to do videoconferencing from it.I dont care who makes it (I prefer non apple so it will at least display and allow markup on the evil Office suite files)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673570</id>
	<title>Re:I don't understand...</title>
	<author>magsol</author>
	<datestamp>1262809500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're absolutely correct; forgot about those rather important applications.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're absolutely correct ; forgot about those rather important applications .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're absolutely correct; forgot about those rather important applications.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673848</id>
	<title>really?</title>
	<author>Alinabi</author>
	<datestamp>1262811000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>'one of Steve Ballmer's riskiest trade show moves in years.'</p></div><p>Riskier than <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;oi=video\_result&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=2&amp;ved=0CA0QtwIwAQ&amp;url=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.youtube.com\%2Fwatch\%3Fv\%3DwvsboPUjrGc&amp;ei=J-lES5WeEcLj8QavqNXWBA&amp;usg=AFQjCNF6EocsHf3ZvYIZ8Oo7eiwgmuVssg&amp;sig2=RaUCgtS4fHaBOy1o8w8QdA" title="google.com">this</a> [google.com]?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>'one of Steve Ballmer 's riskiest trade show moves in years .
'Riskier than this [ google.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'one of Steve Ballmer's riskiest trade show moves in years.
'Riskier than this [google.com]?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674550</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262770620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it is hillarious you put both these paragraphs in the same post:</p><p><i>For how much us tech savvy people will be able to bash Microsoft's tablet, it will turn a profit. Trust me, I don't say that as a fan I say that as a fact. </i></p><p>and</p><p><i>Oh no! Then surely consumers will see this as Microsoft entering another market they aren't experts in and not buy the MS Tablet just like how no one bought the original XBox<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... oh, wait. Well, surely all those consumers will see through this ruse just like they did when Microsoft released the Zune<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... oh, wait, that's still being shoved down our throats and people are still buying it. </i></p><p>Concidering the xbox consoles cost Microsoft a lot of money for each time they sell one, and even the Zune costs them money now that their prices are lowered...   Yet you compare the tablet to that and think it will make them a profit!</p><p>Little hit, profit means gaining money.  Xbox and zune sales COST them money to sell, the exact opposite of profit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it is hillarious you put both these paragraphs in the same post : For how much us tech savvy people will be able to bash Microsoft 's tablet , it will turn a profit .
Trust me , I do n't say that as a fan I say that as a fact .
andOh no !
Then surely consumers will see this as Microsoft entering another market they are n't experts in and not buy the MS Tablet just like how no one bought the original XBox ... oh , wait .
Well , surely all those consumers will see through this ruse just like they did when Microsoft released the Zune ... oh , wait , that 's still being shoved down our throats and people are still buying it .
Concidering the xbox consoles cost Microsoft a lot of money for each time they sell one , and even the Zune costs them money now that their prices are lowered... Yet you compare the tablet to that and think it will make them a profit ! Little hit , profit means gaining money .
Xbox and zune sales COST them money to sell , the exact opposite of profit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it is hillarious you put both these paragraphs in the same post:For how much us tech savvy people will be able to bash Microsoft's tablet, it will turn a profit.
Trust me, I don't say that as a fan I say that as a fact.
andOh no!
Then surely consumers will see this as Microsoft entering another market they aren't experts in and not buy the MS Tablet just like how no one bought the original XBox ... oh, wait.
Well, surely all those consumers will see through this ruse just like they did when Microsoft released the Zune ... oh, wait, that's still being shoved down our throats and people are still buying it.
Concidering the xbox consoles cost Microsoft a lot of money for each time they sell one, and even the Zune costs them money now that their prices are lowered...   Yet you compare the tablet to that and think it will make them a profit!Little hit, profit means gaining money.
Xbox and zune sales COST them money to sell, the exact opposite of profit.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673534</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1262809380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Well, surely all those consumers will see through this ruse just like they did when Microsoft released the Zune<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... oh, wait, that's still being shoved down our throats and people are still buying it.</p></div><p>Pardon?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , surely all those consumers will see through this ruse just like they did when Microsoft released the Zune ... oh , wait , that 's still being shoved down our throats and people are still buying it.Pardon ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, surely all those consumers will see through this ruse just like they did when Microsoft released the Zune ... oh, wait, that's still being shoved down our throats and people are still buying it.Pardon?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30675828</id>
	<title>Re:Old Story</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1262776560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The difference is that, this time, Jobs will engage his reality distortion field. And everyone else wants to be on that train for a ride, at least while that lasts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The difference is that , this time , Jobs will engage his reality distortion field .
And everyone else wants to be on that train for a ride , at least while that lasts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The difference is that, this time, Jobs will engage his reality distortion field.
And everyone else wants to be on that train for a ride, at least while that lasts.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30679530</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>SoupIsGoodFood\_42</author>
	<datestamp>1262804880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>A "Me-Too" device that is one of a long line of such devices that have run their OS..</i></p><p>To be fair, all of Microsoft's past tablet efforts have simply been shoehorning a desktop OS into a tablet. If they're smart, they won't be taking this approach yet again.</p><p><i>Bill Gates thought so back in the early '90s. Hasn't happened yet.</i></p><p>Yeah, probably something to do with the shoehorning approach.</p><p><i>Steve Jobs killed tablet projects like he was playing whack-a-mole for years.</i></p><p>Probably just waiting for the hardware to catch up. It seems up to the job, now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A " Me-Too " device that is one of a long line of such devices that have run their OS..To be fair , all of Microsoft 's past tablet efforts have simply been shoehorning a desktop OS into a tablet .
If they 're smart , they wo n't be taking this approach yet again.Bill Gates thought so back in the early '90s .
Has n't happened yet.Yeah , probably something to do with the shoehorning approach.Steve Jobs killed tablet projects like he was playing whack-a-mole for years.Probably just waiting for the hardware to catch up .
It seems up to the job , now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A "Me-Too" device that is one of a long line of such devices that have run their OS..To be fair, all of Microsoft's past tablet efforts have simply been shoehorning a desktop OS into a tablet.
If they're smart, they won't be taking this approach yet again.Bill Gates thought so back in the early '90s.
Hasn't happened yet.Yeah, probably something to do with the shoehorning approach.Steve Jobs killed tablet projects like he was playing whack-a-mole for years.Probably just waiting for the hardware to catch up.
It seems up to the job, now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674356</id>
	<title>blue binged</title>
	<author>steverar</author>
	<datestamp>1262769840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>here's a scenario
- in the john surfing naughty sites with bing
- tablet blue screens
- WAAH !!!  OMG !!!! reboot reboot reboot reboot reboot
- "you have unused desktop icons"
- ah crap, there went that moment</htmltext>
<tokenext>here 's a scenario - in the john surfing naughty sites with bing - tablet blue screens - WAAH ! ! !
OMG ! ! ! !
reboot reboot reboot reboot reboot - " you have unused desktop icons " - ah crap , there went that moment</tokentext>
<sentencetext>here's a scenario
- in the john surfing naughty sites with bing
- tablet blue screens
- WAAH !!!
OMG !!!!
reboot reboot reboot reboot reboot
- "you have unused desktop icons"
- ah crap, there went that moment</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30676538</id>
	<title>who cares?</title>
	<author>pydev</author>
	<datestamp>1262780280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is like the fourth or fifth attempt by Microsoft to create a tablet, and they all sucked badly.  This isn't going to be any different; Microsoft seems incapable of doing anything other than a desktop OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is like the fourth or fifth attempt by Microsoft to create a tablet , and they all sucked badly .
This is n't going to be any different ; Microsoft seems incapable of doing anything other than a desktop OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is like the fourth or fifth attempt by Microsoft to create a tablet, and they all sucked badly.
This isn't going to be any different; Microsoft seems incapable of doing anything other than a desktop OS.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672856</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262806440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My favorite part is the statement in the NYT about MS releasing a "Me-Too" device.</p><p>A "Me-Too" device that is one of a long line of such devices that have run their OS.</p><p>A "Me-Too" device that is announced before the Apple device.</p><p>A "Me-Too" device that is announced before the SUPPOSED Apple device that has not been confirmed by Apple.</p><p>Enough of the silly repetition. It is getting repetitive.</p><p>I can't say whether the MS device will be worth a spit. I can't say whether the Apple device will be worth a spit. I just like saying spit.</p><p>Can't really say if suddenly tablets are going to be cool and people will start buying them. Bill Gates thought so back in the early '90s. Hasn't happened yet. Steve Jobs killed tablet projects like he was playing whack-a-mole for years. Who knows?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My favorite part is the statement in the NYT about MS releasing a " Me-Too " device.A " Me-Too " device that is one of a long line of such devices that have run their OS.A " Me-Too " device that is announced before the Apple device.A " Me-Too " device that is announced before the SUPPOSED Apple device that has not been confirmed by Apple.Enough of the silly repetition .
It is getting repetitive.I ca n't say whether the MS device will be worth a spit .
I ca n't say whether the Apple device will be worth a spit .
I just like saying spit.Ca n't really say if suddenly tablets are going to be cool and people will start buying them .
Bill Gates thought so back in the early '90s .
Has n't happened yet .
Steve Jobs killed tablet projects like he was playing whack-a-mole for years .
Who knows ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My favorite part is the statement in the NYT about MS releasing a "Me-Too" device.A "Me-Too" device that is one of a long line of such devices that have run their OS.A "Me-Too" device that is announced before the Apple device.A "Me-Too" device that is announced before the SUPPOSED Apple device that has not been confirmed by Apple.Enough of the silly repetition.
It is getting repetitive.I can't say whether the MS device will be worth a spit.
I can't say whether the Apple device will be worth a spit.
I just like saying spit.Can't really say if suddenly tablets are going to be cool and people will start buying them.
Bill Gates thought so back in the early '90s.
Hasn't happened yet.
Steve Jobs killed tablet projects like he was playing whack-a-mole for years.
Who knows?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673304</id>
	<title>Re:Apple, Microsoft be damned..</title>
	<author>onefriedrice</author>
	<datestamp>1262808360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I swear that sometimes the future is stupidly obvious and these big dumb corporations adamantly try to refuse it..</p></div><p>Or perhaps they're a lot more clever than you realize.  Why release the "future" today when you can build up to it, releasing other stuff in the meantime while making a profit all along the way?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I swear that sometimes the future is stupidly obvious and these big dumb corporations adamantly try to refuse it..Or perhaps they 're a lot more clever than you realize .
Why release the " future " today when you can build up to it , releasing other stuff in the meantime while making a profit all along the way ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I swear that sometimes the future is stupidly obvious and these big dumb corporations adamantly try to refuse it..Or perhaps they're a lot more clever than you realize.
Why release the "future" today when you can build up to it, releasing other stuff in the meantime while making a profit all along the way?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30676904</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1262782260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>oh yeah, people are just gobbling up the zune~</p><p><a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/01/27/zune-sales-down-54-percent-will-microsoft-fight-to-save-its-digital-music-player/" title="rollingstone.com">http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/01/27/zune-sales-down-54-percent-will-microsoft-fight-to-save-its-digital-music-player/</a> [rollingstone.com]</p><p><a href="http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/07/30/zune.sales.crashing/" title="electronista.com">http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/07/30/zune.sales.crashing/</a> [electronista.com]</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zune" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zune</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>MS has many failed hardware product. Remember the windows printer?...probably not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>oh yeah , people are just gobbling up the zune ~ http : //www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/01/27/zune-sales-down-54-percent-will-microsoft-fight-to-save-its-digital-music-player/ [ rollingstone.com ] http : //www.electronista.com/articles/09/07/30/zune.sales.crashing/ [ electronista.com ] http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zune [ wikipedia.org ] MS has many failed hardware product .
Remember the windows printer ? ...probably not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>oh yeah, people are just gobbling up the zune~http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/01/27/zune-sales-down-54-percent-will-microsoft-fight-to-save-its-digital-music-player/ [rollingstone.com]http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/07/30/zune.sales.crashing/ [electronista.com]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zune [wikipedia.org]MS has many failed hardware product.
Remember the windows printer?...probably not.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30675522</id>
	<title>Re:Good</title>
	<author>robus</author>
	<datestamp>1262775300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>PCs and laptops are personal - it would be nice to have a "general use" computer for people who want to look stuff up on the web etc. Basically a computer that is open to anyone in the house without fear of losing ones privacy. And to have something freely portable - excellent. I would buy two - one for the living room and one for the family room.</htmltext>
<tokenext>PCs and laptops are personal - it would be nice to have a " general use " computer for people who want to look stuff up on the web etc .
Basically a computer that is open to anyone in the house without fear of losing ones privacy .
And to have something freely portable - excellent .
I would buy two - one for the living room and one for the family room .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PCs and laptops are personal - it would be nice to have a "general use" computer for people who want to look stuff up on the web etc.
Basically a computer that is open to anyone in the house without fear of losing ones privacy.
And to have something freely portable - excellent.
I would buy two - one for the living room and one for the family room.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674218</id>
	<title>Re:Apple, Microsoft be damned..</title>
	<author>Quiet\_Desperation</author>
	<datestamp>1262769180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>but the future is cheap 'netbook' tablets like in Star Trek TNG.</p></div><p>They only seemed cheap because TNG had one of those fantasy moneyless economies. Somewhere offscreen were legions of young, green slave girls working in the tablet sweatshops on Memory Alpha before they are "promoted" to being sexual escorts for the Starfleet brass and Federation bigwigs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>but the future is cheap 'netbook ' tablets like in Star Trek TNG.They only seemed cheap because TNG had one of those fantasy moneyless economies .
Somewhere offscreen were legions of young , green slave girls working in the tablet sweatshops on Memory Alpha before they are " promoted " to being sexual escorts for the Starfleet brass and Federation bigwigs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but the future is cheap 'netbook' tablets like in Star Trek TNG.They only seemed cheap because TNG had one of those fantasy moneyless economies.
Somewhere offscreen were legions of young, green slave girls working in the tablet sweatshops on Memory Alpha before they are "promoted" to being sexual escorts for the Starfleet brass and Federation bigwigs.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673800</id>
	<title>Re:Courier</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262810700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the borders are so huge, why didn't they name it the "EntouragE EdgE"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the borders are so huge , why did n't they name it the " EntouragE EdgE " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the borders are so huge, why didn't they name it the "EntouragE EdgE"?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673078</id>
	<title>Re:Year of the tablet</title>
	<author>Pojut</author>
	<datestamp>1262807340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think if Tablets went the dockable route (i.e. able to dock to a keyboard/faster hardware, then be taken out as just a touchscreen with decent hardware) they would gain a larger following.  For someone like my fiance (a 3rd grade teacher), a computer she can use as a laptop on her desk and then just grab the screen and go while walking around the classroom would be quite an asset.</p><p>yes, I know there are laptops with touchscreens that swivel, but then you are stuck carrying around a laptop, regardless of how small it is.  If tablets are to make it anywhere in the near future, they need to be dockable to a full-sized keyboard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think if Tablets went the dockable route ( i.e .
able to dock to a keyboard/faster hardware , then be taken out as just a touchscreen with decent hardware ) they would gain a larger following .
For someone like my fiance ( a 3rd grade teacher ) , a computer she can use as a laptop on her desk and then just grab the screen and go while walking around the classroom would be quite an asset.yes , I know there are laptops with touchscreens that swivel , but then you are stuck carrying around a laptop , regardless of how small it is .
If tablets are to make it anywhere in the near future , they need to be dockable to a full-sized keyboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think if Tablets went the dockable route (i.e.
able to dock to a keyboard/faster hardware, then be taken out as just a touchscreen with decent hardware) they would gain a larger following.
For someone like my fiance (a 3rd grade teacher), a computer she can use as a laptop on her desk and then just grab the screen and go while walking around the classroom would be quite an asset.yes, I know there are laptops with touchscreens that swivel, but then you are stuck carrying around a laptop, regardless of how small it is.
If tablets are to make it anywhere in the near future, they need to be dockable to a full-sized keyboard.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674318</id>
	<title>Is it the Acer Tablet?</title>
	<author>A Guy From Ottawa</author>
	<datestamp>1262769600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not sure what MS is announcing tonight, but I got a free Acer Aspire 1420P Convertible Tablet PC when I attended the MS PDC in November and the thing is freaking amazing.

</p><p>Some highlights:
</p><ul>
<li>Runs Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate (VERY smooth)</li>
<li>Intel Core2 Duo U2300 processor</li>
<li>2GB of DDR3 1066 MHz memory</li>
<li>11.6" HD 1366 x 768 Swivel multi-touch screen</li>
<li>WLAN + WWAN chips</li>
<li>Multi-Card reader</li>
<li>HDMI output</li>
</ul><p>
Complete spec <a href="http://microsoftpdc.com/tablet" title="microsoftpdc.com">here</a> [microsoftpdc.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure what MS is announcing tonight , but I got a free Acer Aspire 1420P Convertible Tablet PC when I attended the MS PDC in November and the thing is freaking amazing .
Some highlights : Runs Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate ( VERY smooth ) Intel Core2 Duo U2300 processor 2GB of DDR3 1066 MHz memory 11.6 " HD 1366 x 768 Swivel multi-touch screen WLAN + WWAN chips Multi-Card reader HDMI output Complete spec here [ microsoftpdc.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure what MS is announcing tonight, but I got a free Acer Aspire 1420P Convertible Tablet PC when I attended the MS PDC in November and the thing is freaking amazing.
Some highlights:

Runs Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate (VERY smooth)
Intel Core2 Duo U2300 processor
2GB of DDR3 1066 MHz memory
11.6" HD 1366 x 768 Swivel multi-touch screen
WLAN + WWAN chips
Multi-Card reader
HDMI output

Complete spec here [microsoftpdc.com].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30676464</id>
	<title>traditional question</title>
	<author>HollyMolly-1122</author>
	<datestamp>1262779980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can LINUX be installed on this platform ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can LINUX be installed on this platform ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can LINUX be installed on this platform ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673390</id>
	<title>Re:Apple, Microsoft be damned..</title>
	<author>nizcolas</author>
	<datestamp>1262808780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sign me up for two of these. In fact, sign me up for one that runs like Ender's desk.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sign me up for two of these .
In fact , sign me up for one that runs like Ender 's desk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sign me up for two of these.
In fact, sign me up for one that runs like Ender's desk.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673516</id>
	<title>Re:They can't even make a decent phone</title>
	<author>Kelz</author>
	<datestamp>1262809260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think you've got the right idea but the wrong reasons. I can't remember the last time MS put out a device with a screen on it. Other than mice and keyboards, their biggest branded hardware peice is the X360, which has a reported 60\% failure rate after 2 years. Hopefully they've learned quite a bit about hardware reliability if they don't want this to be percieved as a trend.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you 've got the right idea but the wrong reasons .
I ca n't remember the last time MS put out a device with a screen on it .
Other than mice and keyboards , their biggest branded hardware peice is the X360 , which has a reported 60 \ % failure rate after 2 years .
Hopefully they 've learned quite a bit about hardware reliability if they do n't want this to be percieved as a trend .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you've got the right idea but the wrong reasons.
I can't remember the last time MS put out a device with a screen on it.
Other than mice and keyboards, their biggest branded hardware peice is the X360, which has a reported 60\% failure rate after 2 years.
Hopefully they've learned quite a bit about hardware reliability if they don't want this to be percieved as a trend.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674474</id>
	<title>Re:Oblig.</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1262770320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He's only a little too early because the "touch" of most touch screens still suck. As soon as they can come up with a capacitive touch screen that you can use with a stylus, you'd better believe that tablet sales will soar. That, and they need to extend the battery life, which is partly what eBook readers are trying to do. And if they can bring the price down to around 400 bucks, that's when tablets will really become popular.</p><p>I'll bet the technology is out there too. It's only a matter of patents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's only a little too early because the " touch " of most touch screens still suck .
As soon as they can come up with a capacitive touch screen that you can use with a stylus , you 'd better believe that tablet sales will soar .
That , and they need to extend the battery life , which is partly what eBook readers are trying to do .
And if they can bring the price down to around 400 bucks , that 's when tablets will really become popular.I 'll bet the technology is out there too .
It 's only a matter of patents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's only a little too early because the "touch" of most touch screens still suck.
As soon as they can come up with a capacitive touch screen that you can use with a stylus, you'd better believe that tablet sales will soar.
That, and they need to extend the battery life, which is partly what eBook readers are trying to do.
And if they can bring the price down to around 400 bucks, that's when tablets will really become popular.I'll bet the technology is out there too.
It's only a matter of patents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672838</id>
	<title>I don't understand...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262806380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...why Microsoft seems to think it's in competition with Apple. Microsoft built itself on being a software company and has only recently - within the last decade - ventured significantly into the hardware market (Xbox, Zune, now the tablet, etc).</p><p>Apple, meanwhile, has traditionally been the opposite - a hardware company that occasionally ventures into the software industry (arguably the only software they make is variations of OS X for all their hardware devices).</p><p>I am ready and willing to accept naivete as a reason for my above question, but on the off-chance it's not...why does Microsoft care what Apple does? I should think they'd be better off worrying more about what Google does in response to this tablet than Apple.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...why Microsoft seems to think it 's in competition with Apple .
Microsoft built itself on being a software company and has only recently - within the last decade - ventured significantly into the hardware market ( Xbox , Zune , now the tablet , etc ) .Apple , meanwhile , has traditionally been the opposite - a hardware company that occasionally ventures into the software industry ( arguably the only software they make is variations of OS X for all their hardware devices ) .I am ready and willing to accept naivete as a reason for my above question , but on the off-chance it 's not...why does Microsoft care what Apple does ?
I should think they 'd be better off worrying more about what Google does in response to this tablet than Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...why Microsoft seems to think it's in competition with Apple.
Microsoft built itself on being a software company and has only recently - within the last decade - ventured significantly into the hardware market (Xbox, Zune, now the tablet, etc).Apple, meanwhile, has traditionally been the opposite - a hardware company that occasionally ventures into the software industry (arguably the only software they make is variations of OS X for all their hardware devices).I am ready and willing to accept naivete as a reason for my above question, but on the off-chance it's not...why does Microsoft care what Apple does?
I should think they'd be better off worrying more about what Google does in response to this tablet than Apple.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30677860</id>
	<title>eink display or go home</title>
	<author>johncandale</author>
	<datestamp>1262788920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If it's what the rumored Courier was I would not buy it, but it would be neat looking.   If you are going to do the duel screens, make one
 a Eink, so I can read without eyestrain, and justify the price because I'm getting a ebook reader too.   I really don't want to carry a laptop/netbook
 <i>and</i> a ebook reader, but both in one?  Now I'm interested.
2 LED screens at first seems useful, but you later realize it's not. Battery life, extra size and weight, etc. Hell, a decent UI can do a lot with one
half size screen (iphone).  If you are going to do the 2 screens the device better be slick small.  Like A DSlite.  Fit's in my jeans or a purse.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's what the rumored Courier was I would not buy it , but it would be neat looking .
If you are going to do the duel screens , make one a Eink , so I can read without eyestrain , and justify the price because I 'm getting a ebook reader too .
I really do n't want to carry a laptop/netbook and a ebook reader , but both in one ?
Now I 'm interested .
2 LED screens at first seems useful , but you later realize it 's not .
Battery life , extra size and weight , etc .
Hell , a decent UI can do a lot with one half size screen ( iphone ) .
If you are going to do the 2 screens the device better be slick small .
Like A DSlite .
Fit 's in my jeans or a purse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's what the rumored Courier was I would not buy it, but it would be neat looking.
If you are going to do the duel screens, make one
 a Eink, so I can read without eyestrain, and justify the price because I'm getting a ebook reader too.
I really don't want to carry a laptop/netbook
 and a ebook reader, but both in one?
Now I'm interested.
2 LED screens at first seems useful, but you later realize it's not.
Battery life, extra size and weight, etc.
Hell, a decent UI can do a lot with one
half size screen (iphone).
If you are going to do the 2 screens the device better be slick small.
Like A DSlite.
Fit's in my jeans or a purse.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30676108</id>
	<title>Re:Oblig.</title>
	<author>MemoryDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1262777880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The internet is a minority thing MSDN is where things will be heading to.</p><p>Bill Gates 1994...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The internet is a minority thing MSDN is where things will be heading to.Bill Gates 1994.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The internet is a minority thing MSDN is where things will be heading to.Bill Gates 1994...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673934</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1262811360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The xbox isn't a good example seeing how really not many people did buy the original xbox and it lost billions. The 360 took off purely because it was first out the door. They rushed it and it turned out to be shoddy hardware so, while it should be making a profit now it took forever and was quickly beaten by outdated hardware (the Wii) and if you compare same years (ie year 1 360 sales to year 1 PS3 sales) the PS3 sold more than the 360 so really the only thing that saved the 360 was being the first out the door. There is no guarantee they'll get that next time and if they don't impress US customers they're screwed seeing how the 360 is only really a success in the US and UK.
<br> <br>
I wouldn't say the Zune is much of a success story either.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The xbox is n't a good example seeing how really not many people did buy the original xbox and it lost billions .
The 360 took off purely because it was first out the door .
They rushed it and it turned out to be shoddy hardware so , while it should be making a profit now it took forever and was quickly beaten by outdated hardware ( the Wii ) and if you compare same years ( ie year 1 360 sales to year 1 PS3 sales ) the PS3 sold more than the 360 so really the only thing that saved the 360 was being the first out the door .
There is no guarantee they 'll get that next time and if they do n't impress US customers they 're screwed seeing how the 360 is only really a success in the US and UK .
I would n't say the Zune is much of a success story either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The xbox isn't a good example seeing how really not many people did buy the original xbox and it lost billions.
The 360 took off purely because it was first out the door.
They rushed it and it turned out to be shoddy hardware so, while it should be making a profit now it took forever and was quickly beaten by outdated hardware (the Wii) and if you compare same years (ie year 1 360 sales to year 1 PS3 sales) the PS3 sold more than the 360 so really the only thing that saved the 360 was being the first out the door.
There is no guarantee they'll get that next time and if they don't impress US customers they're screwed seeing how the 360 is only really a success in the US and UK.
I wouldn't say the Zune is much of a success story either.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672512</id>
	<title>Courier</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262805000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The huge borders of enTourage eDGe really put me off. It looks like something from the 80's and only the other screen is LCD, other one is e-ink. While you can probably get more battery power only using the e-ink one for reading, a lot of other possibilities are lost for Courier's 2x LCD screens. And I dont really need that long battery power, as I'm mostly looking for something to use on sofa or bed. I don't think Microsoft has anything to worry about enTourage eDGe.</p><p>I really hope the announcement is Courier. It looks kickass, and it would be immediate choice over iTablet or other traditional tablets. Holding a tablet that is book like while laying on sofa makes just a lot more sense and is a lot more comfortable. And when you're done, you can just close it like a book. If it's Courier, Microsoft is up for a good battle with Apple. If it's a normal tablet, meh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The huge borders of enTourage eDGe really put me off .
It looks like something from the 80 's and only the other screen is LCD , other one is e-ink .
While you can probably get more battery power only using the e-ink one for reading , a lot of other possibilities are lost for Courier 's 2x LCD screens .
And I dont really need that long battery power , as I 'm mostly looking for something to use on sofa or bed .
I do n't think Microsoft has anything to worry about enTourage eDGe.I really hope the announcement is Courier .
It looks kickass , and it would be immediate choice over iTablet or other traditional tablets .
Holding a tablet that is book like while laying on sofa makes just a lot more sense and is a lot more comfortable .
And when you 're done , you can just close it like a book .
If it 's Courier , Microsoft is up for a good battle with Apple .
If it 's a normal tablet , meh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The huge borders of enTourage eDGe really put me off.
It looks like something from the 80's and only the other screen is LCD, other one is e-ink.
While you can probably get more battery power only using the e-ink one for reading, a lot of other possibilities are lost for Courier's 2x LCD screens.
And I dont really need that long battery power, as I'm mostly looking for something to use on sofa or bed.
I don't think Microsoft has anything to worry about enTourage eDGe.I really hope the announcement is Courier.
It looks kickass, and it would be immediate choice over iTablet or other traditional tablets.
Holding a tablet that is book like while laying on sofa makes just a lot more sense and is a lot more comfortable.
And when you're done, you can just close it like a book.
If it's Courier, Microsoft is up for a good battle with Apple.
If it's a normal tablet, meh.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673628</id>
	<title>Re:They can't even make a decent phone</title>
	<author>design1066</author>
	<datestamp>1262809860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>As a professional who has used multiple tablet PCs for many years in the engineering and construction fields, most of microsofts OS offerings in this arena are quite easy to use and very functional.  No I am not a Microsoft fan boy just stating the facts.  As a home linux user what I would like to see is a functioning tabletPC running Linux.  All I hear in my linux user group is Linux can do that but I have yet to see it.

So from experience I can tell you their tablet PC OS works well.  Weather Microslop can actually build decent hardware has yet to be seen.  Oh wait, what was that really great piece of hardware they sell??

The Xbox.

Microsoft bashing aside they have a decent chance.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a professional who has used multiple tablet PCs for many years in the engineering and construction fields , most of microsofts OS offerings in this arena are quite easy to use and very functional .
No I am not a Microsoft fan boy just stating the facts .
As a home linux user what I would like to see is a functioning tabletPC running Linux .
All I hear in my linux user group is Linux can do that but I have yet to see it .
So from experience I can tell you their tablet PC OS works well .
Weather Microslop can actually build decent hardware has yet to be seen .
Oh wait , what was that really great piece of hardware they sell ? ?
The Xbox .
Microsoft bashing aside they have a decent chance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a professional who has used multiple tablet PCs for many years in the engineering and construction fields, most of microsofts OS offerings in this arena are quite easy to use and very functional.
No I am not a Microsoft fan boy just stating the facts.
As a home linux user what I would like to see is a functioning tabletPC running Linux.
All I hear in my linux user group is Linux can do that but I have yet to see it.
So from experience I can tell you their tablet PC OS works well.
Weather Microslop can actually build decent hardware has yet to be seen.
Oh wait, what was that really great piece of hardware they sell??
The Xbox.
Microsoft bashing aside they have a decent chance.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30676348</id>
	<title>Hardware, Software -- noone cares for that anymore</title>
	<author>joh</author>
	<datestamp>1262779140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>...why Microsoft seems to think it's in competition with Apple. Microsoft built itself on being a software company and has only recently - within the last decade - ventured significantly into the hardware market (Xbox, Zune, now the tablet, etc).</p><p>Apple, meanwhile, has traditionally been the opposite - a hardware company that occasionally ventures into the software industry (arguably the only software they make is variations of OS X for all their hardware devices).</p></div><p>Hardware and software increasingly only matters in so far that you don't notice it and it doesn't get in the way. What's much more important is the ecosystem: How much effort have you to put into your device to get things on it? To buy an app or a game or music or a movie or a book or a magazine? If it requires more than a single tap you've lost. People (and I mean PEOPLE, not geeks) are sick of PCs and license numbers and virus-scanners and a thousand of ways to buy things and to make sure they work. People want a package, with the actual hardware just being the interface to it and the technology as invisible as possible.</p><p>If you need to know what format something is in or what resolution your screen has or on what kind of CPU your device runs, you're a geek and in the minority. People want to have things just work. They want a one-stop shop, which has their CC number and where they can buy some cheap software or a song or whatever by just doing it and never waste a single thought about how it works and what the files are named and where there are.</p><p>Apple has all this. They have worked on it for years, they are known for it and if they can get the publishers onto the wagon (with magazines and books and newspapers) and people can buy the NYT and Vogue and whatever as easy as they can buy an app or a song, both the publishers and the people will LOVE it.</p><p>It's not about the hardware and the software anymore. These are necessary (and may be hard), but they are not enough. Throwing the best hardware and the best OS at the people and nothing more is useless.</p><p>If MS and HP now announce nothing than a tablet with Windows 7 on it and some colorful UI on top, they'll not only have lost, they'll have proved that they don't even understand the problem they're facing. I can't imagine that they're that dumb, so I hope there's more to that.</p><p>And let me add one thing: Free Software and open hardware standards are important, but in the future free content and free standards to exchange content will be more important. If you're a real geek you *might* be wise to give up tinkering with hard- and software and start to tinker with content. And if this means to buy a Mac or an iPhone or an iSlate or whatever, do so and use the time you win by not fighting your devices to write and to create music and other things not being meaningful only to computers and other geeks. If we lose the people, we lose everything.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...why Microsoft seems to think it 's in competition with Apple .
Microsoft built itself on being a software company and has only recently - within the last decade - ventured significantly into the hardware market ( Xbox , Zune , now the tablet , etc ) .Apple , meanwhile , has traditionally been the opposite - a hardware company that occasionally ventures into the software industry ( arguably the only software they make is variations of OS X for all their hardware devices ) .Hardware and software increasingly only matters in so far that you do n't notice it and it does n't get in the way .
What 's much more important is the ecosystem : How much effort have you to put into your device to get things on it ?
To buy an app or a game or music or a movie or a book or a magazine ?
If it requires more than a single tap you 've lost .
People ( and I mean PEOPLE , not geeks ) are sick of PCs and license numbers and virus-scanners and a thousand of ways to buy things and to make sure they work .
People want a package , with the actual hardware just being the interface to it and the technology as invisible as possible.If you need to know what format something is in or what resolution your screen has or on what kind of CPU your device runs , you 're a geek and in the minority .
People want to have things just work .
They want a one-stop shop , which has their CC number and where they can buy some cheap software or a song or whatever by just doing it and never waste a single thought about how it works and what the files are named and where there are.Apple has all this .
They have worked on it for years , they are known for it and if they can get the publishers onto the wagon ( with magazines and books and newspapers ) and people can buy the NYT and Vogue and whatever as easy as they can buy an app or a song , both the publishers and the people will LOVE it.It 's not about the hardware and the software anymore .
These are necessary ( and may be hard ) , but they are not enough .
Throwing the best hardware and the best OS at the people and nothing more is useless.If MS and HP now announce nothing than a tablet with Windows 7 on it and some colorful UI on top , they 'll not only have lost , they 'll have proved that they do n't even understand the problem they 're facing .
I ca n't imagine that they 're that dumb , so I hope there 's more to that.And let me add one thing : Free Software and open hardware standards are important , but in the future free content and free standards to exchange content will be more important .
If you 're a real geek you * might * be wise to give up tinkering with hard- and software and start to tinker with content .
And if this means to buy a Mac or an iPhone or an iSlate or whatever , do so and use the time you win by not fighting your devices to write and to create music and other things not being meaningful only to computers and other geeks .
If we lose the people , we lose everything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...why Microsoft seems to think it's in competition with Apple.
Microsoft built itself on being a software company and has only recently - within the last decade - ventured significantly into the hardware market (Xbox, Zune, now the tablet, etc).Apple, meanwhile, has traditionally been the opposite - a hardware company that occasionally ventures into the software industry (arguably the only software they make is variations of OS X for all their hardware devices).Hardware and software increasingly only matters in so far that you don't notice it and it doesn't get in the way.
What's much more important is the ecosystem: How much effort have you to put into your device to get things on it?
To buy an app or a game or music or a movie or a book or a magazine?
If it requires more than a single tap you've lost.
People (and I mean PEOPLE, not geeks) are sick of PCs and license numbers and virus-scanners and a thousand of ways to buy things and to make sure they work.
People want a package, with the actual hardware just being the interface to it and the technology as invisible as possible.If you need to know what format something is in or what resolution your screen has or on what kind of CPU your device runs, you're a geek and in the minority.
People want to have things just work.
They want a one-stop shop, which has their CC number and where they can buy some cheap software or a song or whatever by just doing it and never waste a single thought about how it works and what the files are named and where there are.Apple has all this.
They have worked on it for years, they are known for it and if they can get the publishers onto the wagon (with magazines and books and newspapers) and people can buy the NYT and Vogue and whatever as easy as they can buy an app or a song, both the publishers and the people will LOVE it.It's not about the hardware and the software anymore.
These are necessary (and may be hard), but they are not enough.
Throwing the best hardware and the best OS at the people and nothing more is useless.If MS and HP now announce nothing than a tablet with Windows 7 on it and some colorful UI on top, they'll not only have lost, they'll have proved that they don't even understand the problem they're facing.
I can't imagine that they're that dumb, so I hope there's more to that.And let me add one thing: Free Software and open hardware standards are important, but in the future free content and free standards to exchange content will be more important.
If you're a real geek you *might* be wise to give up tinkering with hard- and software and start to tinker with content.
And if this means to buy a Mac or an iPhone or an iSlate or whatever, do so and use the time you win by not fighting your devices to write and to create music and other things not being meaningful only to computers and other geeks.
If we lose the people, we lose everything.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672980</id>
	<title>Re:Courier</title>
	<author>Professor\_UNIX</author>
	<datestamp>1262806980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of my friends heard from his friend that his uncle's coworker heard that the Courier will be offered at a significantly marked-down price of $99 to people that have a Hotmail account that is at least 3 years old (the device will be $529 for everyone else).  They will be partnering with T-Mobile to offer unlimited data service for the device starting at $20/month.  They're also going to be announcing a new VOIP service that offers free unlimited calling to and from anywhere in the United States for a flat rate of 0.1 cents per minute and the VOIP software built-in to the Courier will be able to work over WiFi or T-Mobile's data network.  You can use any compatible Bluetooth headset or there will be a port for a wired headset that is included.  Let's see Apple try to top this announcement!  Wouldn't that be cool if this was all true??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of my friends heard from his friend that his uncle 's coworker heard that the Courier will be offered at a significantly marked-down price of $ 99 to people that have a Hotmail account that is at least 3 years old ( the device will be $ 529 for everyone else ) .
They will be partnering with T-Mobile to offer unlimited data service for the device starting at $ 20/month .
They 're also going to be announcing a new VOIP service that offers free unlimited calling to and from anywhere in the United States for a flat rate of 0.1 cents per minute and the VOIP software built-in to the Courier will be able to work over WiFi or T-Mobile 's data network .
You can use any compatible Bluetooth headset or there will be a port for a wired headset that is included .
Let 's see Apple try to top this announcement !
Would n't that be cool if this was all true ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of my friends heard from his friend that his uncle's coworker heard that the Courier will be offered at a significantly marked-down price of $99 to people that have a Hotmail account that is at least 3 years old (the device will be $529 for everyone else).
They will be partnering with T-Mobile to offer unlimited data service for the device starting at $20/month.
They're also going to be announcing a new VOIP service that offers free unlimited calling to and from anywhere in the United States for a flat rate of 0.1 cents per minute and the VOIP software built-in to the Courier will be able to work over WiFi or T-Mobile's data network.
You can use any compatible Bluetooth headset or there will be a port for a wired headset that is included.
Let's see Apple try to top this announcement!
Wouldn't that be cool if this was all true?
?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673160</id>
	<title>Microsoft Is</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262807760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dead, or close to it.</p><p>Yours In Novosibirsk,<br>K. Trout</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dead , or close to it.Yours In Novosibirsk,K .
Trout</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dead, or close to it.Yours In Novosibirsk,K.
Trout</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30677658</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>ErkDemon</author>
	<datestamp>1262787420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So Google just announced their unlocked smartphone before Apple can announce what they're going to do with the iPhone (wonder how badly top-line iPhone sales have paused while people wait for the Nexus specs?), MS appear to be about to announce a slate-type device on the ~6th before Apple can announce their (hypothetical) device<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Apple must be feeling like everyone's ganging up on them to rob them of things to announce.

I wonder how many days left 'til ASUS announce the spec and launch date of their new EeePad (undermining the iPod Touch)?

I suppose Apple might launch an iTunes-based movie distribution channel, but there's still a chance that Sony or Sky might have something up their sleeve<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>So Google just announced their unlocked smartphone before Apple can announce what they 're going to do with the iPhone ( wonder how badly top-line iPhone sales have paused while people wait for the Nexus specs ?
) , MS appear to be about to announce a slate-type device on the ~ 6th before Apple can announce their ( hypothetical ) device ... Apple must be feeling like everyone 's ganging up on them to rob them of things to announce .
I wonder how many days left 'til ASUS announce the spec and launch date of their new EeePad ( undermining the iPod Touch ) ?
I suppose Apple might launch an iTunes-based movie distribution channel , but there 's still a chance that Sony or Sky might have something up their sleeve .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Google just announced their unlocked smartphone before Apple can announce what they're going to do with the iPhone (wonder how badly top-line iPhone sales have paused while people wait for the Nexus specs?
), MS appear to be about to announce a slate-type device on the ~6th before Apple can announce their (hypothetical) device ... Apple must be feeling like everyone's ganging up on them to rob them of things to announce.
I wonder how many days left 'til ASUS announce the spec and launch date of their new EeePad (undermining the iPod Touch)?
I suppose Apple might launch an iTunes-based movie distribution channel, but there's still a chance that Sony or Sky might have something up their sleeve ...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673520</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>whisper\_jeff</author>
	<datestamp>1262809320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Well, surely all those consumers will see through this ruse just like they did when Microsoft released the Zune<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... oh, wait, that's still being shoved down our throats and people are still buying it.</p></div><p>
Really? A vast majority of my friends have an iPod (hell, my mother has one and she's a techno-neanderthal) but I don't know a single person who has a Zune. Not one. Nobody. Now, I'm sure some people are buying them but I'd wager it's not making waves and deserves to be overlooked when talking about Microsoft managing to successfully sell a product in a market in which they are considered novices.<br> <br>
And I'll be kind and let the XBox one go because it has sold in considerable numbers despite the fact that it seems to have a 100\%+ failure rate (over 100\% because people have had multiple failures with a single XBox...).</p></div>
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<tokenext>Well , surely all those consumers will see through this ruse just like they did when Microsoft released the Zune ... oh , wait , that 's still being shoved down our throats and people are still buying it .
Really ? A vast majority of my friends have an iPod ( hell , my mother has one and she 's a techno-neanderthal ) but I do n't know a single person who has a Zune .
Not one .
Nobody. Now , I 'm sure some people are buying them but I 'd wager it 's not making waves and deserves to be overlooked when talking about Microsoft managing to successfully sell a product in a market in which they are considered novices .
And I 'll be kind and let the XBox one go because it has sold in considerable numbers despite the fact that it seems to have a 100 \ % + failure rate ( over 100 \ % because people have had multiple failures with a single XBox... ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, surely all those consumers will see through this ruse just like they did when Microsoft released the Zune ... oh, wait, that's still being shoved down our throats and people are still buying it.
Really? A vast majority of my friends have an iPod (hell, my mother has one and she's a techno-neanderthal) but I don't know a single person who has a Zune.
Not one.
Nobody. Now, I'm sure some people are buying them but I'd wager it's not making waves and deserves to be overlooked when talking about Microsoft managing to successfully sell a product in a market in which they are considered novices.
And I'll be kind and let the XBox one go because it has sold in considerable numbers despite the fact that it seems to have a 100\%+ failure rate (over 100\% because people have had multiple failures with a single XBox...).
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30677324</id>
	<title>Re:Apple "leaks" were to steal Balmer's thunder</title>
	<author>robus</author>
	<datestamp>1262785140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apple also likes to leak hints about a new product category - they never leak about updates to an existing product - that would dampen sales. Leaking about a new product - that makes people wait instead of purchasing a competing product.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple also likes to leak hints about a new product category - they never leak about updates to an existing product - that would dampen sales .
Leaking about a new product - that makes people wait instead of purchasing a competing product .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple also likes to leak hints about a new product category - they never leak about updates to an existing product - that would dampen sales.
Leaking about a new product - that makes people wait instead of purchasing a competing product.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30675668</id>
	<title>Re:They can't even make a decent phone</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1262775840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a good point, but it's worth keeping in mind that there are plenty of smart people at Microsoft.  There just seem to be some really dumb ones that foul things up.  The Xbox 360 is a pretty good little machine, assuming you're willing to overlook the loud fans and the RRoD.  I played with a recent Zune model about a month ago, and was pleasantly surprised.  I'm not giving up my iPhone, but it seemed pretty ok.
</p><p>Given the amount of smart people they have and the amount of money they can throw at a problem, I don't think you can write Microsoft off.  Even so, I'm hesitant to buy into any Microsoft products-- not because of their supposed inability to produce good products, but because of their history of vendor lock-in.  I don't want to buy some kind of Microsoft e-reader today and find in a couple years that, for as long as I want to read those books, I have to stay on the Microsoft upgrade treadmill for all of their related products.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a good point , but it 's worth keeping in mind that there are plenty of smart people at Microsoft .
There just seem to be some really dumb ones that foul things up .
The Xbox 360 is a pretty good little machine , assuming you 're willing to overlook the loud fans and the RRoD .
I played with a recent Zune model about a month ago , and was pleasantly surprised .
I 'm not giving up my iPhone , but it seemed pretty ok . Given the amount of smart people they have and the amount of money they can throw at a problem , I do n't think you can write Microsoft off .
Even so , I 'm hesitant to buy into any Microsoft products-- not because of their supposed inability to produce good products , but because of their history of vendor lock-in .
I do n't want to buy some kind of Microsoft e-reader today and find in a couple years that , for as long as I want to read those books , I have to stay on the Microsoft upgrade treadmill for all of their related products .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a good point, but it's worth keeping in mind that there are plenty of smart people at Microsoft.
There just seem to be some really dumb ones that foul things up.
The Xbox 360 is a pretty good little machine, assuming you're willing to overlook the loud fans and the RRoD.
I played with a recent Zune model about a month ago, and was pleasantly surprised.
I'm not giving up my iPhone, but it seemed pretty ok.
Given the amount of smart people they have and the amount of money they can throw at a problem, I don't think you can write Microsoft off.
Even so, I'm hesitant to buy into any Microsoft products-- not because of their supposed inability to produce good products, but because of their history of vendor lock-in.
I don't want to buy some kind of Microsoft e-reader today and find in a couple years that, for as long as I want to read those books, I have to stay on the Microsoft upgrade treadmill for all of their related products.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673270</id>
	<title>Re:Courier</title>
	<author>IndustrialComplex</author>
	<datestamp>1262808180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The huge borders of enTourage eDGe really put me off.</i></p><p>For me, it is the egregious use of funky capitalizations.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The huge borders of enTourage eDGe really put me off.For me , it is the egregious use of funky capitalizations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The huge borders of enTourage eDGe really put me off.For me, it is the egregious use of funky capitalizations.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673126</id>
	<title>Re:I don't understand...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262807640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about things like Final Cut Pro?  That's software...</p><p>That said, I don't know if MS really cares what Apple does... <i>except</i> that because you don't typically buy a Mac to run Windows on it.</p><p>But hey.  As long as their wrongfully-supposed competition yields some good products, I don't care<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about things like Final Cut Pro ?
That 's software...That said , I do n't know if MS really cares what Apple does... except that because you do n't typically buy a Mac to run Windows on it.But hey .
As long as their wrongfully-supposed competition yields some good products , I do n't care : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about things like Final Cut Pro?
That's software...That said, I don't know if MS really cares what Apple does... except that because you don't typically buy a Mac to run Windows on it.But hey.
As long as their wrongfully-supposed competition yields some good products, I don't care :)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674694</id>
	<title>Re:Courier</title>
	<author>artemis67</author>
	<datestamp>1262771400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let me also add...</p><p>The iTablet has been rumored to be a multimedia device (i.e., watching movies). If that turns out to be true, it would be a huge leap over the Courier, which would only be able to watch a movie on a much smaller screen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let me also add...The iTablet has been rumored to be a multimedia device ( i.e. , watching movies ) .
If that turns out to be true , it would be a huge leap over the Courier , which would only be able to watch a movie on a much smaller screen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let me also add...The iTablet has been rumored to be a multimedia device (i.e., watching movies).
If that turns out to be true, it would be a huge leap over the Courier, which would only be able to watch a movie on a much smaller screen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672920</id>
	<title>Apple, Microsoft be damned..</title>
	<author>brxndxn</author>
	<datestamp>1262806680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I swear that sometimes the future is stupidly obvious and these big dumb corporations adamantly try to refuse it.. A $1000 tablet may be a temporary success... but the future is cheap 'netbook' tablets like in Star Trek TNG. The point of a tablet PC is to offer a computing platform that removes the need for paper. Paper is cheap. A dual-screen tablet is the stupidest of the stupid moronic stupid things Microsoft would do..</p><p>So right now, while electronics shops cope with el-cheapo lcd screens being placed in every product, why the hell aren't these big dumb companies seeing that the el-cheapo lcd photoframes are just a few steps away from being the tablets we need? To truly remove the need for paper, we do not need speed or the latest in 3d multimedia. We need el-cheapo tablets that can be passed around while the personal information is contained in removable cards (SD? miniSD? microSD? who cares). Let me write on the screen. Convert my text to type. Let me play a video - but not necessarily a video game. Let me browse the net. Let me read an ebook. Let me write up my notes at a meeting and toss them on my boss's desk. Put this with a slow-ass cheap processor, minimum OS (fuck you Microsoft, but still XP is small enough), minimum other parts, and a touch-screen. Also, make it easily replaceable.. If I lose my tablet, lemme buy another for $200. Let the data automatically sync to my desktop computer when I bring the tablet near it. Waterproof the tablet.. should be easy, right? just one rubber compartment around the storage cards and ports.. let it borrow internet access from my nearby cell phone or my wifi..</p><p>The tablet does not need to do the following:<br>- charge me a monthly fee of any kind - so it should not have cell phone shit in it<br>- play 3d games<br>- rival my desktop in performance<br>- weigh more than 1.2 lbs<br>- be more than 3/8" thick<br>- download automatic updates<br>- use front surface area for anything other than a screen<br>- cost more than $200 ($300 in 2011, $500 in 2012 to account for inflation)</p><p>This is the future of tablet computing that I remember.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I swear that sometimes the future is stupidly obvious and these big dumb corporations adamantly try to refuse it.. A $ 1000 tablet may be a temporary success... but the future is cheap 'netbook ' tablets like in Star Trek TNG .
The point of a tablet PC is to offer a computing platform that removes the need for paper .
Paper is cheap .
A dual-screen tablet is the stupidest of the stupid moronic stupid things Microsoft would do..So right now , while electronics shops cope with el-cheapo lcd screens being placed in every product , why the hell are n't these big dumb companies seeing that the el-cheapo lcd photoframes are just a few steps away from being the tablets we need ?
To truly remove the need for paper , we do not need speed or the latest in 3d multimedia .
We need el-cheapo tablets that can be passed around while the personal information is contained in removable cards ( SD ?
miniSD ? microSD ?
who cares ) .
Let me write on the screen .
Convert my text to type .
Let me play a video - but not necessarily a video game .
Let me browse the net .
Let me read an ebook .
Let me write up my notes at a meeting and toss them on my boss 's desk .
Put this with a slow-ass cheap processor , minimum OS ( fuck you Microsoft , but still XP is small enough ) , minimum other parts , and a touch-screen .
Also , make it easily replaceable.. If I lose my tablet , lem me buy another for $ 200 .
Let the data automatically sync to my desktop computer when I bring the tablet near it .
Waterproof the tablet.. should be easy , right ?
just one rubber compartment around the storage cards and ports.. let it borrow internet access from my nearby cell phone or my wifi..The tablet does not need to do the following : - charge me a monthly fee of any kind - so it should not have cell phone shit in it- play 3d games- rival my desktop in performance- weigh more than 1.2 lbs- be more than 3/8 " thick- download automatic updates- use front surface area for anything other than a screen- cost more than $ 200 ( $ 300 in 2011 , $ 500 in 2012 to account for inflation ) This is the future of tablet computing that I remember .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I swear that sometimes the future is stupidly obvious and these big dumb corporations adamantly try to refuse it.. A $1000 tablet may be a temporary success... but the future is cheap 'netbook' tablets like in Star Trek TNG.
The point of a tablet PC is to offer a computing platform that removes the need for paper.
Paper is cheap.
A dual-screen tablet is the stupidest of the stupid moronic stupid things Microsoft would do..So right now, while electronics shops cope with el-cheapo lcd screens being placed in every product, why the hell aren't these big dumb companies seeing that the el-cheapo lcd photoframes are just a few steps away from being the tablets we need?
To truly remove the need for paper, we do not need speed or the latest in 3d multimedia.
We need el-cheapo tablets that can be passed around while the personal information is contained in removable cards (SD?
miniSD? microSD?
who cares).
Let me write on the screen.
Convert my text to type.
Let me play a video - but not necessarily a video game.
Let me browse the net.
Let me read an ebook.
Let me write up my notes at a meeting and toss them on my boss's desk.
Put this with a slow-ass cheap processor, minimum OS (fuck you Microsoft, but still XP is small enough), minimum other parts, and a touch-screen.
Also, make it easily replaceable.. If I lose my tablet, lemme buy another for $200.
Let the data automatically sync to my desktop computer when I bring the tablet near it.
Waterproof the tablet.. should be easy, right?
just one rubber compartment around the storage cards and ports.. let it borrow internet access from my nearby cell phone or my wifi..The tablet does not need to do the following:- charge me a monthly fee of any kind - so it should not have cell phone shit in it- play 3d games- rival my desktop in performance- weigh more than 1.2 lbs- be more than 3/8" thick- download automatic updates- use front surface area for anything other than a screen- cost more than $200 ($300 in 2011, $500 in 2012 to account for inflation)This is the future of tablet computing that I remember.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673568</id>
	<title>remind me again... 2nd or 3rd time for MS tablet?</title>
	<author>swschrad</author>
	<datestamp>1262809500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>seems like it's the third time for Windows Tablet Edition, or whatever you want to call it this year.</p><p>first bunch of hardware around 2000 for it was heavy, clunky, slow, no battery life, and moderately Newton-like.</p><p>maybe this batch will work.  especially if the batteries are user-replaceable, which is Apple's achilles heel.  yeah, it's sleeker.  but you lose your machine to exchange in two or three years, at 1/2 to 2/3 the price of a new one, for a simple battery.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>seems like it 's the third time for Windows Tablet Edition , or whatever you want to call it this year.first bunch of hardware around 2000 for it was heavy , clunky , slow , no battery life , and moderately Newton-like.maybe this batch will work .
especially if the batteries are user-replaceable , which is Apple 's achilles heel .
yeah , it 's sleeker .
but you lose your machine to exchange in two or three years , at 1/2 to 2/3 the price of a new one , for a simple battery .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>seems like it's the third time for Windows Tablet Edition, or whatever you want to call it this year.first bunch of hardware around 2000 for it was heavy, clunky, slow, no battery life, and moderately Newton-like.maybe this batch will work.
especially if the batteries are user-replaceable, which is Apple's achilles heel.
yeah, it's sleeker.
but you lose your machine to exchange in two or three years, at 1/2 to 2/3 the price of a new one, for a simple battery.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673226</id>
	<title>Re:I don't understand...</title>
	<author>Aviation Pete</author>
	<datestamp>1262808000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>...(arguably the only software they make is variations of OS X for all their hardware devices).</p></div><p>you seem to forget their iApps, Quicktime, Xcode, the productivity apps like Keynote or the many pro apps for things like movie cutting and picture editing. While Apple's objective may be to boost their hardware sales, the software is a huge part of the company.</p><p>iTunes and Quicktime are most likely even running on your PC.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... ( arguably the only software they make is variations of OS X for all their hardware devices ) .you seem to forget their iApps , Quicktime , Xcode , the productivity apps like Keynote or the many pro apps for things like movie cutting and picture editing .
While Apple 's objective may be to boost their hardware sales , the software is a huge part of the company.iTunes and Quicktime are most likely even running on your PC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...(arguably the only software they make is variations of OS X for all their hardware devices).you seem to forget their iApps, Quicktime, Xcode, the productivity apps like Keynote or the many pro apps for things like movie cutting and picture editing.
While Apple's objective may be to boost their hardware sales, the software is a huge part of the company.iTunes and Quicktime are most likely even running on your PC.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674262</id>
	<title>Re:Year of the tablet</title>
	<author>Nadaka</author>
	<datestamp>1262769300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>snapdragon is based on arm architecture. Windows 7 will never run on it, they probably ship with windows mobile.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>snapdragon is based on arm architecture .
Windows 7 will never run on it , they probably ship with windows mobile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>snapdragon is based on arm architecture.
Windows 7 will never run on it, they probably ship with windows mobile.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30676534</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>wfolta</author>
	<datestamp>1262780280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love the "ZuneHD is surprisingly popular" part. Did you leave out a smiley or something? The fact that it's "surprisingly" popular says a lot about previous generations of Zune, and therefore our expectations, don't you think?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love the " ZuneHD is surprisingly popular " part .
Did you leave out a smiley or something ?
The fact that it 's " surprisingly " popular says a lot about previous generations of Zune , and therefore our expectations , do n't you think ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love the "ZuneHD is surprisingly popular" part.
Did you leave out a smiley or something?
The fact that it's "surprisingly" popular says a lot about previous generations of Zune, and therefore our expectations, don't you think?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673578</id>
	<title>Re:1st vendor to release a PADD from TNG gets my $</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1262809560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why would you want a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pediatric\_Attention\_Disorders\_Diagnostic\_Screener" title="wikipedia.org">Pediatric Attention Disorders Diagnostic</a> [wikipedia.org] from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star\_Trek:\_The\_Next\_Generation" title="wikipedia.org">Doctor Crusher</a> [wikipedia.org]?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would you want a Pediatric Attention Disorders Diagnostic [ wikipedia.org ] from Doctor Crusher [ wikipedia.org ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would you want a Pediatric Attention Disorders Diagnostic [wikipedia.org] from Doctor Crusher [wikipedia.org]?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674364</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1262769840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>when I'll get a tablet that provides support for open source.</p></div><p>I believe there are tables running Android.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>when I 'll get a tablet that provides support for open source.I believe there are tables running Android .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when I'll get a tablet that provides support for open source.I believe there are tables running Android.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674738</id>
	<title>skeptical</title>
	<author>jweller13</author>
	<datestamp>1262771640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tablet computing has been talked about as the next great thing every year for the last 10 years.  Yet it has never taken off.  Why would apple and microsoft's announcement make any difference?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tablet computing has been talked about as the next great thing every year for the last 10 years .
Yet it has never taken off .
Why would apple and microsoft 's announcement make any difference ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tablet computing has been talked about as the next great thing every year for the last 10 years.
Yet it has never taken off.
Why would apple and microsoft's announcement make any difference?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673782</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>linj</author>
	<datestamp>1262810640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Meanwhile here I'll sit with my eeePC running some flavor of Linux wondering when I'll get a tablet that provides support for open source.</p></div><p>

To be honest, I'm not sure an open source tablet would make it that big. There's not excellent support throughout, say, Linux, yet. At least it's not as mature as that of Windows 7, which is much better than that of Windows Vista, which was super-awesome compared to that of Windows XP. Plus, OneNote is what makes Tablet PCs pretty good on Windows (although Evernote, I hear, is pretty good too).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Meanwhile here I 'll sit with my eeePC running some flavor of Linux wondering when I 'll get a tablet that provides support for open source .
To be honest , I 'm not sure an open source tablet would make it that big .
There 's not excellent support throughout , say , Linux , yet .
At least it 's not as mature as that of Windows 7 , which is much better than that of Windows Vista , which was super-awesome compared to that of Windows XP .
Plus , OneNote is what makes Tablet PCs pretty good on Windows ( although Evernote , I hear , is pretty good too ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meanwhile here I'll sit with my eeePC running some flavor of Linux wondering when I'll get a tablet that provides support for open source.
To be honest, I'm not sure an open source tablet would make it that big.
There's not excellent support throughout, say, Linux, yet.
At least it's not as mature as that of Windows 7, which is much better than that of Windows Vista, which was super-awesome compared to that of Windows XP.
Plus, OneNote is what makes Tablet PCs pretty good on Windows (although Evernote, I hear, is pretty good too).
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30678614</id>
	<title>So what ?</title>
	<author>dadman</author>
	<datestamp>1262795160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have very good points about MS's capability to turn up a nice and good tablet, but at the end, all these won't matter, as we are still going to use it because this is the only tablet the corporate recognize as a <i>compatible</i> device, and you are still going to pay for all those bug fixes...</p><p>Reality is cruel and hard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have very good points about MS 's capability to turn up a nice and good tablet , but at the end , all these wo n't matter , as we are still going to use it because this is the only tablet the corporate recognize as a compatible device , and you are still going to pay for all those bug fixes...Reality is cruel and hard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have very good points about MS's capability to turn up a nice and good tablet, but at the end, all these won't matter, as we are still going to use it because this is the only tablet the corporate recognize as a compatible device, and you are still going to pay for all those bug fixes...Reality is cruel and hard.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673496</id>
	<title>Re:Courier</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1262809200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It looks kickass, and it would be immediate choice over iTablet or other traditional tablets.</p> </div><p>Seeing as the "iTablet" has not even been announced, I don't know how you could assume that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks kickass , and it would be immediate choice over iTablet or other traditional tablets .
Seeing as the " iTablet " has not even been announced , I do n't know how you could assume that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks kickass, and it would be immediate choice over iTablet or other traditional tablets.
Seeing as the "iTablet" has not even been announced, I don't know how you could assume that.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673068</id>
	<title>Re:Year of the tablet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262807280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Year of the tablet on the desktop, even!  Woo!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Year of the tablet on the desktop , even !
Woo !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Year of the tablet on the desktop, even!
Woo!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673482</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>Locutus</author>
	<datestamp>1262809140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Microsoft wishes they could create something which makes a profit but they don't really have to, they've been running on the Windows OS and MS Office gravy trains for over 2 decades. Zune+Xbox+WindowsCE=billions in losses but that's ok, it keeps the perception Microsoft and Windows are important and valuable so Windows keeps racking in the dough. IMO<br><br>LoB</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft wishes they could create something which makes a profit but they do n't really have to , they 've been running on the Windows OS and MS Office gravy trains for over 2 decades .
Zune + Xbox + WindowsCE = billions in losses but that 's ok , it keeps the perception Microsoft and Windows are important and valuable so Windows keeps racking in the dough .
IMOLoB</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft wishes they could create something which makes a profit but they don't really have to, they've been running on the Windows OS and MS Office gravy trains for over 2 decades.
Zune+Xbox+WindowsCE=billions in losses but that's ok, it keeps the perception Microsoft and Windows are important and valuable so Windows keeps racking in the dough.
IMOLoB</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674872</id>
	<title>Re:The Zune? Nope.</title>
	<author>dargaud</author>
	<datestamp>1262772420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>According to Amazon's best seller list the top *17* music players are made by Apple</p></div><p>I know it's way late to ask that, but why ?!? I've listened to mp3s since <i>before</i> the Napster area and used mp3 players since the Rio and I don't see anything better about the iPods compared to the competition. Quite the opposite (no card reading ability for instance). So, I repeat, why are they so successful ? I find that the best mp3 player is simply my cell phone (no needless duplication of devices).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>According to Amazon 's best seller list the top * 17 * music players are made by AppleI know it 's way late to ask that , but why ? ! ?
I 've listened to mp3s since before the Napster area and used mp3 players since the Rio and I do n't see anything better about the iPods compared to the competition .
Quite the opposite ( no card reading ability for instance ) .
So , I repeat , why are they so successful ?
I find that the best mp3 player is simply my cell phone ( no needless duplication of devices ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to Amazon's best seller list the top *17* music players are made by AppleI know it's way late to ask that, but why ?!?
I've listened to mp3s since before the Napster area and used mp3 players since the Rio and I don't see anything better about the iPods compared to the competition.
Quite the opposite (no card reading ability for instance).
So, I repeat, why are they so successful ?
I find that the best mp3 player is simply my cell phone (no needless duplication of devices).
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673416</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>AvitarX</author>
	<datestamp>1262808840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Screw handwriting recognition</i></p><p>I have to agree on that.  I think the best part of the Newton was that it could be treated like (by design) a sketch pad.  It was something I felt all other PDA's were lacking.</p><p>Also, the fact that it was fax oriented was pretty cute, but I bought mine years after the end of life as a novelty.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Screw handwriting recognitionI have to agree on that .
I think the best part of the Newton was that it could be treated like ( by design ) a sketch pad .
It was something I felt all other PDA 's were lacking.Also , the fact that it was fax oriented was pretty cute , but I bought mine years after the end of life as a novelty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Screw handwriting recognitionI have to agree on that.
I think the best part of the Newton was that it could be treated like (by design) a sketch pad.
It was something I felt all other PDA's were lacking.Also, the fact that it was fax oriented was pretty cute, but I bought mine years after the end of life as a novelty.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673324</id>
	<title>Re:Courier</title>
	<author>artemis67</author>
	<datestamp>1262808480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I heard that the kids of every parent who buys one will get a pony.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I heard that the kids of every parent who buys one will get a pony .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I heard that the kids of every parent who buys one will get a pony.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674624</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to media objectivity?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262770920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When they keep stopping the race for photo opportunities - because the sparkly dust on the iUnicorn just looks *so* good - who cares which animal's faster?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When they keep stopping the race for photo opportunities - because the sparkly dust on the iUnicorn just looks * so * good - who cares which animal 's faster ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When they keep stopping the race for photo opportunities - because the sparkly dust on the iUnicorn just looks *so* good - who cares which animal's faster?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673598</id>
	<title>Re:Apple, Microsoft be damned..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262809680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What about a hand job, do you want it to do that too?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about a hand job , do you want it to do that too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about a hand job, do you want it to do that too?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673310</id>
	<title>Good</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1262808420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With both MS and Apple announcing tablets, maybe ONE of them can tell us exactly who those things are targeted at. In the age of netbooks and smart phones on the low end and real laptops on the high end, I want to know exactly who out there is clamoring to spend $1000 for a half-assed laptop with a glorified touch screen. Maybe there are some artists out there who could really use this screen for drawing or something (and some Mac fans who will buy anything with an Apple logo on it, just cause), but why would any mainstream user want one of these things?</p><p>I don't mean that as a troll. Seriously, is anyone here looking to buy a tablet--and if so why?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With both MS and Apple announcing tablets , maybe ONE of them can tell us exactly who those things are targeted at .
In the age of netbooks and smart phones on the low end and real laptops on the high end , I want to know exactly who out there is clamoring to spend $ 1000 for a half-assed laptop with a glorified touch screen .
Maybe there are some artists out there who could really use this screen for drawing or something ( and some Mac fans who will buy anything with an Apple logo on it , just cause ) , but why would any mainstream user want one of these things ? I do n't mean that as a troll .
Seriously , is anyone here looking to buy a tablet--and if so why ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With both MS and Apple announcing tablets, maybe ONE of them can tell us exactly who those things are targeted at.
In the age of netbooks and smart phones on the low end and real laptops on the high end, I want to know exactly who out there is clamoring to spend $1000 for a half-assed laptop with a glorified touch screen.
Maybe there are some artists out there who could really use this screen for drawing or something (and some Mac fans who will buy anything with an Apple logo on it, just cause), but why would any mainstream user want one of these things?I don't mean that as a troll.
Seriously, is anyone here looking to buy a tablet--and if so why?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674238</id>
	<title>Re:I don't understand...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262769240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just remember, Apple's hardware is just a licensing dongle for Apple's software and then everything makes since...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just remember , Apple 's hardware is just a licensing dongle for Apple 's software and then everything makes since.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just remember, Apple's hardware is just a licensing dongle for Apple's software and then everything makes since...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672886</id>
	<title>Tablets are the new "Cloud Computing".</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262806560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tablets are well on their way to becoming the "Cloud Computing" of 2010.</p><p>We are seeing a huge amount of hype from all of the major players, but we're not getting anything that's truly usable.</p><p>Of course, this isn't the first time that many of these vendors have tried to offer a tablet of some sort. Microsoft alone has failed time and time again.</p><p>Just like with "Cloud Computing", they are taking an ancient a failed idea and trying to push it on the public once more.</p><p>We're not even a week in, and yet we know that tablets will be this year's major tech failure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tablets are well on their way to becoming the " Cloud Computing " of 2010.We are seeing a huge amount of hype from all of the major players , but we 're not getting anything that 's truly usable.Of course , this is n't the first time that many of these vendors have tried to offer a tablet of some sort .
Microsoft alone has failed time and time again.Just like with " Cloud Computing " , they are taking an ancient a failed idea and trying to push it on the public once more.We 're not even a week in , and yet we know that tablets will be this year 's major tech failure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tablets are well on their way to becoming the "Cloud Computing" of 2010.We are seeing a huge amount of hype from all of the major players, but we're not getting anything that's truly usable.Of course, this isn't the first time that many of these vendors have tried to offer a tablet of some sort.
Microsoft alone has failed time and time again.Just like with "Cloud Computing", they are taking an ancient a failed idea and trying to push it on the public once more.We're not even a week in, and yet we know that tablets will be this year's major tech failure.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673050</id>
	<title>Re:Software</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262807220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>BINGO</p><p>We have a winner. Not only does the MS pre-announce announcemnt sounds too much like the typical "me too" we get from Microsoft. Not only this, Microsoft has already tried "tablet" (and even tabletop) gadgets, and yet somehow nobody wants or cares about them. XP Tablet version is nasty bad and Windows doesn't work very well in "Tablet Mode" (which also requires a stylus yuck). (Just don't remind me of Newton)</p><p>I actually think that Apple's Tablet will be exactly this, iPod Touch on roids! The biggest drawback on the iPodTouch is the screen size, and having to "switch" applications back n forth to do stuff, but with a larger screen you might have four or six apps in their own section of the screen all at the same time, while also allowing larger screen sizes for other applications.</p><p>But that is just my $.02</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>BINGOWe have a winner .
Not only does the MS pre-announce announcemnt sounds too much like the typical " me too " we get from Microsoft .
Not only this , Microsoft has already tried " tablet " ( and even tabletop ) gadgets , and yet somehow nobody wants or cares about them .
XP Tablet version is nasty bad and Windows does n't work very well in " Tablet Mode " ( which also requires a stylus yuck ) .
( Just do n't remind me of Newton ) I actually think that Apple 's Tablet will be exactly this , iPod Touch on roids !
The biggest drawback on the iPodTouch is the screen size , and having to " switch " applications back n forth to do stuff , but with a larger screen you might have four or six apps in their own section of the screen all at the same time , while also allowing larger screen sizes for other applications.But that is just my $ .02</tokentext>
<sentencetext>BINGOWe have a winner.
Not only does the MS pre-announce announcemnt sounds too much like the typical "me too" we get from Microsoft.
Not only this, Microsoft has already tried "tablet" (and even tabletop) gadgets, and yet somehow nobody wants or cares about them.
XP Tablet version is nasty bad and Windows doesn't work very well in "Tablet Mode" (which also requires a stylus yuck).
(Just don't remind me of Newton)I actually think that Apple's Tablet will be exactly this, iPod Touch on roids!
The biggest drawback on the iPodTouch is the screen size, and having to "switch" applications back n forth to do stuff, but with a larger screen you might have four or six apps in their own section of the screen all at the same time, while also allowing larger screen sizes for other applications.But that is just my $.02</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30675178</id>
	<title>Re:Year of the tablet</title>
	<author>SoupIsGoodFood\_42</author>
	<datestamp>1262773740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Apple do release a tablet, then tablets will become about as niche as smartphones and MP3 players.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Apple do release a tablet , then tablets will become about as niche as smartphones and MP3 players .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Apple do release a tablet, then tablets will become about as niche as smartphones and MP3 players.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673074</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262807340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hasn't Microsoft only lost money on the X-Box AND the Zune? I don't see how comparing the new tablet to either of these ventures can lead to the argument that it will be successful. Sure, it'll sell, but will it profit?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Has n't Microsoft only lost money on the X-Box AND the Zune ?
I do n't see how comparing the new tablet to either of these ventures can lead to the argument that it will be successful .
Sure , it 'll sell , but will it profit ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hasn't Microsoft only lost money on the X-Box AND the Zune?
I don't see how comparing the new tablet to either of these ventures can lead to the argument that it will be successful.
Sure, it'll sell, but will it profit?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30675386</id>
	<title>Yay!</title>
	<author>chucklebutte</author>
	<datestamp>1262774820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another shitty horrible touchscreen device with no keyboard YAY! Hey you guys coming up with these ideas, here is an idea go fuck yourself! Call me in 10 years when touch screens are a viable technology. Ive been using touch screen devices for years now they all suck, even the shitty terminals in stores at registers cant recognize the proper screen touches and the numerous cell phones from palm to windows to iphone all shit! I just recently went Blackberry and im loving the robust OS the powerful hardware and my precise roll ball! Touch screen devices ARE getting better but they are not at the point that we can all be touchy feely and ditch the keyboard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another shitty horrible touchscreen device with no keyboard YAY !
Hey you guys coming up with these ideas , here is an idea go fuck yourself !
Call me in 10 years when touch screens are a viable technology .
Ive been using touch screen devices for years now they all suck , even the shitty terminals in stores at registers cant recognize the proper screen touches and the numerous cell phones from palm to windows to iphone all shit !
I just recently went Blackberry and im loving the robust OS the powerful hardware and my precise roll ball !
Touch screen devices ARE getting better but they are not at the point that we can all be touchy feely and ditch the keyboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another shitty horrible touchscreen device with no keyboard YAY!
Hey you guys coming up with these ideas, here is an idea go fuck yourself!
Call me in 10 years when touch screens are a viable technology.
Ive been using touch screen devices for years now they all suck, even the shitty terminals in stores at registers cant recognize the proper screen touches and the numerous cell phones from palm to windows to iphone all shit!
I just recently went Blackberry and im loving the robust OS the powerful hardware and my precise roll ball!
Touch screen devices ARE getting better but they are not at the point that we can all be touchy feely and ditch the keyboard.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30679840</id>
	<title>Let me get on the record today</title>
	<author>symbolset</author>
	<datestamp>1262895600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know, it's not relevant to your comment.  I've got to put it somewhere.
</p><p>The tablet that Steve Ballmer announced in partnership with HP in his CES keynote speech will never see the light of day.  It is vaporware.  It does not exist.  Steve-o panicked and held up a half-working concept prototype because he's scared spitless about both the Android tablets working on display at CES and Apple's announcement later this month.
</p><p>There is no such thing and there will never be.  It sucks so much power you need a 3 pound power brick to work it at all.  It sucks juice like a diabetic 300LB hummingbird.  If it was impressive he would have showed you how it worked.  Microsoft is looking around for an answer to Android on Snapdragon and to be blunt, they're still going to be looking at Christmas time when you're putting those cool new Android tablets/music players/movie players/Kidsafe GPS locators/notepad computers under the tree for your kids, your spouse and yourself.
</p><p>In 2010 Microsoft's innovations are going to be limited to paying people to force you to use Bing instead of allowing you to Google what you want.  That's all.  And in fact TFA announces just that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know , it 's not relevant to your comment .
I 've got to put it somewhere .
The tablet that Steve Ballmer announced in partnership with HP in his CES keynote speech will never see the light of day .
It is vaporware .
It does not exist .
Steve-o panicked and held up a half-working concept prototype because he 's scared spitless about both the Android tablets working on display at CES and Apple 's announcement later this month .
There is no such thing and there will never be .
It sucks so much power you need a 3 pound power brick to work it at all .
It sucks juice like a diabetic 300LB hummingbird .
If it was impressive he would have showed you how it worked .
Microsoft is looking around for an answer to Android on Snapdragon and to be blunt , they 're still going to be looking at Christmas time when you 're putting those cool new Android tablets/music players/movie players/Kidsafe GPS locators/notepad computers under the tree for your kids , your spouse and yourself .
In 2010 Microsoft 's innovations are going to be limited to paying people to force you to use Bing instead of allowing you to Google what you want .
That 's all .
And in fact TFA announces just that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know, it's not relevant to your comment.
I've got to put it somewhere.
The tablet that Steve Ballmer announced in partnership with HP in his CES keynote speech will never see the light of day.
It is vaporware.
It does not exist.
Steve-o panicked and held up a half-working concept prototype because he's scared spitless about both the Android tablets working on display at CES and Apple's announcement later this month.
There is no such thing and there will never be.
It sucks so much power you need a 3 pound power brick to work it at all.
It sucks juice like a diabetic 300LB hummingbird.
If it was impressive he would have showed you how it worked.
Microsoft is looking around for an answer to Android on Snapdragon and to be blunt, they're still going to be looking at Christmas time when you're putting those cool new Android tablets/music players/movie players/Kidsafe GPS locators/notepad computers under the tree for your kids, your spouse and yourself.
In 2010 Microsoft's innovations are going to be limited to paying people to force you to use Bing instead of allowing you to Google what you want.
That's all.
And in fact TFA announces just that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30678544</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to media objectivity?</title>
	<author>mgblst</author>
	<datestamp>1262794620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It depends how you look at it.</p><p>Apple are going to release a tablet, there is no argument about that. It could do very well, ala iPhone, or it could crash and burn.</p><p>Microsoft would rather it crashed and burnt. If anyony out there is going to make money on this, MS wants it to be them. This is only natural.</p><p>Microsoft have experience in pre-announcing products before competitors in the past, see the OS/2 wars.</p><p>You judgement is clouded by your Apple Fanboys hate. If it was only for the Apple fanboys, Apple would have died a long time ago. There are a lot of people who buy Apple these days, witht their iPod and iPhone lines.</p><p>It isn't about a product existing, don't you get that now. It was the same before the iPhone but even more so now. An Apple announcement is huge, becuase they have had huge payoffs with iPod/iPhone.</p><p>You are a fucking tool if you don't understand this. Hype is worth a lot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It depends how you look at it.Apple are going to release a tablet , there is no argument about that .
It could do very well , ala iPhone , or it could crash and burn.Microsoft would rather it crashed and burnt .
If anyony out there is going to make money on this , MS wants it to be them .
This is only natural.Microsoft have experience in pre-announcing products before competitors in the past , see the OS/2 wars.You judgement is clouded by your Apple Fanboys hate .
If it was only for the Apple fanboys , Apple would have died a long time ago .
There are a lot of people who buy Apple these days , witht their iPod and iPhone lines.It is n't about a product existing , do n't you get that now .
It was the same before the iPhone but even more so now .
An Apple announcement is huge , becuase they have had huge payoffs with iPod/iPhone.You are a fucking tool if you do n't understand this .
Hype is worth a lot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It depends how you look at it.Apple are going to release a tablet, there is no argument about that.
It could do very well, ala iPhone, or it could crash and burn.Microsoft would rather it crashed and burnt.
If anyony out there is going to make money on this, MS wants it to be them.
This is only natural.Microsoft have experience in pre-announcing products before competitors in the past, see the OS/2 wars.You judgement is clouded by your Apple Fanboys hate.
If it was only for the Apple fanboys, Apple would have died a long time ago.
There are a lot of people who buy Apple these days, witht their iPod and iPhone lines.It isn't about a product existing, don't you get that now.
It was the same before the iPhone but even more so now.
An Apple announcement is huge, becuase they have had huge payoffs with iPod/iPhone.You are a fucking tool if you don't understand this.
Hype is worth a lot.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673698</id>
	<title>To be a success a tablet should be...</title>
	<author>wandazulu</author>
	<datestamp>1262810280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...just like a piece of paper: disposable. It seems that a technology only becomes ubiquitous when it becomes so cheap and common that you're strange if you *don't* have one. Everybody, basically, has a cell phone or access to one. A smart phone, like the iphone or android-anything? Not necessarily, but you can buy an old-fashioned cell phone from vending machines now. Look at the history of "computers", in general, and you see the progression from a few at big companies to grandma posting her kitty pics on Facebook.</p><p>A tablet, whether it be from Apple or Microsoft or whomever, needs to be less about being personal and more about being utilitarian; if I perceive that it's not a big deal if the unit breaks or disappears, and I can just get another one relatively easily, then it's a success in my mind. And what would the tablet have to do to be better than a piece of paper? Play video and audio, do basically everything I expect a computer to do but with a simpler interface. As another poster mentioned, a tablet needs to be like the ones everyone seemed to be carrying and passing around on TNG; completely flexible in functionality, and acceptable if I didn't get it back. Maybe that's where cloud computing comes into its own; since it's all "in the cloud", the fact that my tablet fell into the blender while trying to cook something, doesn't faze me very much as I know I haven't lost any data, can replace the tablet cheaply, and only have to explain to the SO why we're ordering take out (again).</p><p>A smart phone is a bad place to start with a tablet concept; the whole point of a smart phone is that it's *yours*, it has your number, your contacts, and everything it does is a reflection of your personality and your tastes and interests. With the abilities of a smart phone, there's no need for a tablet if it's billed as simply "a bigger smart phone"; this is, I think, the point Jobs was getting at with the question "what would someone do with a tablet but surf the web in the bathroom?" A tablet needs to have its own place that is not served by a laptop or cell phone, and being an electronic piece of paper, with all the ephemeral-ness of said paper, is likely the winner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...just like a piece of paper : disposable .
It seems that a technology only becomes ubiquitous when it becomes so cheap and common that you 're strange if you * do n't * have one .
Everybody , basically , has a cell phone or access to one .
A smart phone , like the iphone or android-anything ?
Not necessarily , but you can buy an old-fashioned cell phone from vending machines now .
Look at the history of " computers " , in general , and you see the progression from a few at big companies to grandma posting her kitty pics on Facebook.A tablet , whether it be from Apple or Microsoft or whomever , needs to be less about being personal and more about being utilitarian ; if I perceive that it 's not a big deal if the unit breaks or disappears , and I can just get another one relatively easily , then it 's a success in my mind .
And what would the tablet have to do to be better than a piece of paper ?
Play video and audio , do basically everything I expect a computer to do but with a simpler interface .
As another poster mentioned , a tablet needs to be like the ones everyone seemed to be carrying and passing around on TNG ; completely flexible in functionality , and acceptable if I did n't get it back .
Maybe that 's where cloud computing comes into its own ; since it 's all " in the cloud " , the fact that my tablet fell into the blender while trying to cook something , does n't faze me very much as I know I have n't lost any data , can replace the tablet cheaply , and only have to explain to the SO why we 're ordering take out ( again ) .A smart phone is a bad place to start with a tablet concept ; the whole point of a smart phone is that it 's * yours * , it has your number , your contacts , and everything it does is a reflection of your personality and your tastes and interests .
With the abilities of a smart phone , there 's no need for a tablet if it 's billed as simply " a bigger smart phone " ; this is , I think , the point Jobs was getting at with the question " what would someone do with a tablet but surf the web in the bathroom ?
" A tablet needs to have its own place that is not served by a laptop or cell phone , and being an electronic piece of paper , with all the ephemeral-ness of said paper , is likely the winner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...just like a piece of paper: disposable.
It seems that a technology only becomes ubiquitous when it becomes so cheap and common that you're strange if you *don't* have one.
Everybody, basically, has a cell phone or access to one.
A smart phone, like the iphone or android-anything?
Not necessarily, but you can buy an old-fashioned cell phone from vending machines now.
Look at the history of "computers", in general, and you see the progression from a few at big companies to grandma posting her kitty pics on Facebook.A tablet, whether it be from Apple or Microsoft or whomever, needs to be less about being personal and more about being utilitarian; if I perceive that it's not a big deal if the unit breaks or disappears, and I can just get another one relatively easily, then it's a success in my mind.
And what would the tablet have to do to be better than a piece of paper?
Play video and audio, do basically everything I expect a computer to do but with a simpler interface.
As another poster mentioned, a tablet needs to be like the ones everyone seemed to be carrying and passing around on TNG; completely flexible in functionality, and acceptable if I didn't get it back.
Maybe that's where cloud computing comes into its own; since it's all "in the cloud", the fact that my tablet fell into the blender while trying to cook something, doesn't faze me very much as I know I haven't lost any data, can replace the tablet cheaply, and only have to explain to the SO why we're ordering take out (again).A smart phone is a bad place to start with a tablet concept; the whole point of a smart phone is that it's *yours*, it has your number, your contacts, and everything it does is a reflection of your personality and your tastes and interests.
With the abilities of a smart phone, there's no need for a tablet if it's billed as simply "a bigger smart phone"; this is, I think, the point Jobs was getting at with the question "what would someone do with a tablet but surf the web in the bathroom?
" A tablet needs to have its own place that is not served by a laptop or cell phone, and being an electronic piece of paper, with all the ephemeral-ness of said paper, is likely the winner.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672614</id>
	<title>Old Story</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262805480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is Deja Vu all over again.
They already had a bunch of pushes for Tablets. Like here:<a href="http://www.pencomputing.com/frames/tablet\_pc.html" title="pencomputing.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.pencomputing.com/frames/tablet\_pc.html</a> [pencomputing.com]
Tablet PC is no go. Get over it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is Deja Vu all over again .
They already had a bunch of pushes for Tablets .
Like here : http : //www.pencomputing.com/frames/tablet \ _pc.html [ pencomputing.com ] Tablet PC is no go .
Get over it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is Deja Vu all over again.
They already had a bunch of pushes for Tablets.
Like here:http://www.pencomputing.com/frames/tablet\_pc.html [pencomputing.com]
Tablet PC is no go.
Get over it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30676422</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>Radical Moderate</author>
	<datestamp>1262779740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"Enough of the silly repetition. It is getting repetitive."</i> <br> <br>
You can say that again!</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Enough of the silly repetition .
It is getting repetitive .
" You can say that again !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Enough of the silly repetition.
It is getting repetitive.
"  
You can say that again!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673624</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>perigee369</author>
	<datestamp>1262809800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You should probably check your facts on the current "consoles".  You will find out that the Wii has outsold the Xbox 360 and the PS3 by almost double. (Wii 54 mil., X360 32 mil., PS3 27 mil.)

And your insistence that MS will win the market buy just throwing enough $$$ at it?  You have heard of the Zune, and Zune HD right?  Granted, the do have a good share of the keyboard and mouse market...</htmltext>
<tokenext>You should probably check your facts on the current " consoles " .
You will find out that the Wii has outsold the Xbox 360 and the PS3 by almost double .
( Wii 54 mil. , X360 32 mil. , PS3 27 mil .
) And your insistence that MS will win the market buy just throwing enough $ $ $ at it ?
You have heard of the Zune , and Zune HD right ?
Granted , the do have a good share of the keyboard and mouse market.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should probably check your facts on the current "consoles".
You will find out that the Wii has outsold the Xbox 360 and the PS3 by almost double.
(Wii 54 mil., X360 32 mil., PS3 27 mil.
)

And your insistence that MS will win the market buy just throwing enough $$$ at it?
You have heard of the Zune, and Zune HD right?
Granted, the do have a good share of the keyboard and mouse market...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673840</id>
	<title>Re:Apple, Microsoft be damned..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262810940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe I have a strange workflow, but I definitely see a need for multiple displays (Courier-style).</p><p>I'd rather have a slate with two book-style screens than just a plain slate. Far too often I have to view two pieces of information at once, and a one-screen slate would just be frustrating for research. I guess having two slates side by side would also work, but only if they're completely integrated, I want to be able to 'flick' stuff from one to the next with no passwords, file sharing setup, etc. It should be seamless, as if all the slates were just multiple views onto the same workspace.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe I have a strange workflow , but I definitely see a need for multiple displays ( Courier-style ) .I 'd rather have a slate with two book-style screens than just a plain slate .
Far too often I have to view two pieces of information at once , and a one-screen slate would just be frustrating for research .
I guess having two slates side by side would also work , but only if they 're completely integrated , I want to be able to 'flick ' stuff from one to the next with no passwords , file sharing setup , etc .
It should be seamless , as if all the slates were just multiple views onto the same workspace .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe I have a strange workflow, but I definitely see a need for multiple displays (Courier-style).I'd rather have a slate with two book-style screens than just a plain slate.
Far too often I have to view two pieces of information at once, and a one-screen slate would just be frustrating for research.
I guess having two slates side by side would also work, but only if they're completely integrated, I want to be able to 'flick' stuff from one to the next with no passwords, file sharing setup, etc.
It should be seamless, as if all the slates were just multiple views onto the same workspace.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30678396</id>
	<title>It depends...</title>
	<author>dadman</author>
	<datestamp>1262793420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>if the Courier weight the same or less than a hardcover book, then it would be okay, otherwise, it is just another touch screen notebook.<br>Oh, and I hope MS won't repeat their mistake in WinCE by assuming the same user interface on Win7 would also do fine for a tablet, it won't.</p><p>Hmmm...you seem pretty firm that the iTablet is real, and <i>is</i> a traditional tablet, making the Courier an immediate choice over them<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I, for one, would be interested to know more about Apple's plan, care to shed some light here?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>if the Courier weight the same or less than a hardcover book , then it would be okay , otherwise , it is just another touch screen notebook.Oh , and I hope MS wo n't repeat their mistake in WinCE by assuming the same user interface on Win7 would also do fine for a tablet , it wo n't.Hmmm...you seem pretty firm that the iTablet is real , and is a traditional tablet , making the Courier an immediate choice over them ... I , for one , would be interested to know more about Apple 's plan , care to shed some light here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if the Courier weight the same or less than a hardcover book, then it would be okay, otherwise, it is just another touch screen notebook.Oh, and I hope MS won't repeat their mistake in WinCE by assuming the same user interface on Win7 would also do fine for a tablet, it won't.Hmmm...you seem pretty firm that the iTablet is real, and is a traditional tablet, making the Courier an immediate choice over them ... I, for one, would be interested to know more about Apple's plan, care to shed some light here?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30677052</id>
	<title>Fascinating, how you twist history</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1262783400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mention the PS3 vs 360 vs Wii competition... but this is the FIRST generation tablet for MS. So it should be compared to the PS2 vs X-box vs Gamecube competition.
</p><p>MS never makes a good first product. Go ahead, try Windows 1. The original Zune. IE1. Their first office suit. Silverlight 1.0. The list is endless.
</p><p>Oh and the X-box cost MS money. History, learn it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mention the PS3 vs 360 vs Wii competition... but this is the FIRST generation tablet for MS. So it should be compared to the PS2 vs X-box vs Gamecube competition .
MS never makes a good first product .
Go ahead , try Windows 1 .
The original Zune .
IE1. Their first office suit .
Silverlight 1.0 .
The list is endless .
Oh and the X-box cost MS money .
History , learn it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mention the PS3 vs 360 vs Wii competition... but this is the FIRST generation tablet for MS. So it should be compared to the PS2 vs X-box vs Gamecube competition.
MS never makes a good first product.
Go ahead, try Windows 1.
The original Zune.
IE1. Their first office suit.
Silverlight 1.0.
The list is endless.
Oh and the X-box cost MS money.
History, learn it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673294</id>
	<title>Re:Courier</title>
	<author>artemis67</author>
	<datestamp>1262808360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the contrary, I don't really see a second screen as adding that much more value, particularly when the expanded size looks to be roughly the same as the rumored iTablet -- plus, you have the dead space of the hinge dividing the screens.</p><p>I'm sure that there will be covers for the iTablet that will fold over the screen, just like there are for the Kindle. So the only real advantage of the Courier would be that it folds into half the length of the iTablet (while doubling the height).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the contrary , I do n't really see a second screen as adding that much more value , particularly when the expanded size looks to be roughly the same as the rumored iTablet -- plus , you have the dead space of the hinge dividing the screens.I 'm sure that there will be covers for the iTablet that will fold over the screen , just like there are for the Kindle .
So the only real advantage of the Courier would be that it folds into half the length of the iTablet ( while doubling the height ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the contrary, I don't really see a second screen as adding that much more value, particularly when the expanded size looks to be roughly the same as the rumored iTablet -- plus, you have the dead space of the hinge dividing the screens.I'm sure that there will be covers for the iTablet that will fold over the screen, just like there are for the Kindle.
So the only real advantage of the Courier would be that it folds into half the length of the iTablet (while doubling the height).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672958</id>
	<title>Year of the tablet</title>
	<author>joerdie</author>
	<datestamp>1262806860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>2009 was the year of the netbook, 2010 will be the year of the tablet. The problem is, tablets are so niche... and the normal consumer doesn't know.</htmltext>
<tokenext>2009 was the year of the netbook , 2010 will be the year of the tablet .
The problem is , tablets are so niche... and the normal consumer does n't know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2009 was the year of the netbook, 2010 will be the year of the tablet.
The problem is, tablets are so niche... and the normal consumer doesn't know.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673462</id>
	<title>Re:I don't understand...</title>
	<author>fermion</author>
	<datestamp>1262809020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apple is arguably the last consumer GPC systems manufacturer.  MS provide commodity software for commodity hardware, and has traditionally left integration issue to others.  Therefore, Apple has some experience with getting components to work together, while MS only has limited experience on the Software side.  I say limited because up to five years ago it did little work to make standards based software.
<p>
What MS did for most of it's life is produce good enough software for a good price.  MS products were cheap enough, or could be acquired cheaply enough, so that more expensive systems made no economic sense for many common applications.  What MS is doing now is trying to upscale the product.  The software now costs more than the hardware, something that to many people seem unreasonable.  Like IBM, MS now makes little sense for small groups.  Once can buy a 3 macs for $5000, and keep them operating through 2 upgrade cycles for less than $1000, including iWork upgrades.  The same three PCs of similar quantity might cost $2500, but each upgrade cycle is going to cost another $1500, assuming you don't buy the crippled OS, and don't upgrade the MS Office applications.
</p><p>
MS is trying to be the upscale systems manufacturer because that is where the money is.  The problem is that if they compete on pice, then they alienate their hardware partners.  So they have to compete on quality which means they are competing on product quality.  In cell phones they have failed as the Nokia phones are just too good.  In console they succeeded because they are better in many ways than the Wii, and the sony stuff is very expensive.  In the tablet market we are back in the realm of alienating hardware partners and jeopardizing the MS Windows cash cow, so they are likely to be competing with Apple and Kindle, rather than the more commodity products.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple is arguably the last consumer GPC systems manufacturer .
MS provide commodity software for commodity hardware , and has traditionally left integration issue to others .
Therefore , Apple has some experience with getting components to work together , while MS only has limited experience on the Software side .
I say limited because up to five years ago it did little work to make standards based software .
What MS did for most of it 's life is produce good enough software for a good price .
MS products were cheap enough , or could be acquired cheaply enough , so that more expensive systems made no economic sense for many common applications .
What MS is doing now is trying to upscale the product .
The software now costs more than the hardware , something that to many people seem unreasonable .
Like IBM , MS now makes little sense for small groups .
Once can buy a 3 macs for $ 5000 , and keep them operating through 2 upgrade cycles for less than $ 1000 , including iWork upgrades .
The same three PCs of similar quantity might cost $ 2500 , but each upgrade cycle is going to cost another $ 1500 , assuming you do n't buy the crippled OS , and do n't upgrade the MS Office applications .
MS is trying to be the upscale systems manufacturer because that is where the money is .
The problem is that if they compete on pice , then they alienate their hardware partners .
So they have to compete on quality which means they are competing on product quality .
In cell phones they have failed as the Nokia phones are just too good .
In console they succeeded because they are better in many ways than the Wii , and the sony stuff is very expensive .
In the tablet market we are back in the realm of alienating hardware partners and jeopardizing the MS Windows cash cow , so they are likely to be competing with Apple and Kindle , rather than the more commodity products .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple is arguably the last consumer GPC systems manufacturer.
MS provide commodity software for commodity hardware, and has traditionally left integration issue to others.
Therefore, Apple has some experience with getting components to work together, while MS only has limited experience on the Software side.
I say limited because up to five years ago it did little work to make standards based software.
What MS did for most of it's life is produce good enough software for a good price.
MS products were cheap enough, or could be acquired cheaply enough, so that more expensive systems made no economic sense for many common applications.
What MS is doing now is trying to upscale the product.
The software now costs more than the hardware, something that to many people seem unreasonable.
Like IBM, MS now makes little sense for small groups.
Once can buy a 3 macs for $5000, and keep them operating through 2 upgrade cycles for less than $1000, including iWork upgrades.
The same three PCs of similar quantity might cost $2500, but each upgrade cycle is going to cost another $1500, assuming you don't buy the crippled OS, and don't upgrade the MS Office applications.
MS is trying to be the upscale systems manufacturer because that is where the money is.
The problem is that if they compete on pice, then they alienate their hardware partners.
So they have to compete on quality which means they are competing on product quality.
In cell phones they have failed as the Nokia phones are just too good.
In console they succeeded because they are better in many ways than the Wii, and the sony stuff is very expensive.
In the tablet market we are back in the realm of alienating hardware partners and jeopardizing the MS Windows cash cow, so they are likely to be competing with Apple and Kindle, rather than the more commodity products.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674342</id>
	<title>Re:Good</title>
	<author>ColdWetDog</author>
	<datestamp>1262769780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I want to know exactly who out there is clamoring to spend $1000 for a half-assed laptop with a glorified touch screen</p></div></blockquote><p>
ME!  ME!  I want one!<br> <br>
Well, maybe not at $1000, although if it actually runs OS X and I can use a Wacom pen, then I'm all over it.  Reading books.  Sketching, drafting, Adobe Illustrator....  I've looked at the Wacom CinQ and the 13" macbook -&gt; tablet mod (?Modbook) and they're close.  But I'm sort of waiting for Somebody to Do It Right.<br> <br>
Now, having said this, it is my firm belief that the iWhatever will run the iPhone OS, won't run the full OS X suite, will be locked down more than I like (although will be jailbroken in 48 hours) and will probably be controlled by my great, fat, greasy fingers (side note:  Stock in Windex climbs after Apple tablet announced).<br> <br>
So I will be terribly disappointed and think Bad Thoughts about Saint Steven for a week.<br> <br>
Then go out an buy one anyway (although if I have half a brain left, I will wait for rev. B).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I want to know exactly who out there is clamoring to spend $ 1000 for a half-assed laptop with a glorified touch screen ME !
ME ! I want one !
Well , maybe not at $ 1000 , although if it actually runs OS X and I can use a Wacom pen , then I 'm all over it .
Reading books .
Sketching , drafting , Adobe Illustrator.... I 've looked at the Wacom CinQ and the 13 " macbook - &gt; tablet mod ( ? Modbook ) and they 're close .
But I 'm sort of waiting for Somebody to Do It Right .
Now , having said this , it is my firm belief that the iWhatever will run the iPhone OS , wo n't run the full OS X suite , will be locked down more than I like ( although will be jailbroken in 48 hours ) and will probably be controlled by my great , fat , greasy fingers ( side note : Stock in Windex climbs after Apple tablet announced ) .
So I will be terribly disappointed and think Bad Thoughts about Saint Steven for a week .
Then go out an buy one anyway ( although if I have half a brain left , I will wait for rev .
B ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want to know exactly who out there is clamoring to spend $1000 for a half-assed laptop with a glorified touch screen
ME!
ME!  I want one!
Well, maybe not at $1000, although if it actually runs OS X and I can use a Wacom pen, then I'm all over it.
Reading books.
Sketching, drafting, Adobe Illustrator....  I've looked at the Wacom CinQ and the 13" macbook -&gt; tablet mod (?Modbook) and they're close.
But I'm sort of waiting for Somebody to Do It Right.
Now, having said this, it is my firm belief that the iWhatever will run the iPhone OS, won't run the full OS X suite, will be locked down more than I like (although will be jailbroken in 48 hours) and will probably be controlled by my great, fat, greasy fingers (side note:  Stock in Windex climbs after Apple tablet announced).
So I will be terribly disappointed and think Bad Thoughts about Saint Steven for a week.
Then go out an buy one anyway (although if I have half a brain left, I will wait for rev.
B).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673210</id>
	<title>Re:Year of the tablet</title>
	<author>joerdie</author>
	<datestamp>1262807880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thats a really good point. If the market can find more uses like that, it shall succeed. I currently have an HP tablet that I really love... but never use in tablet mode.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thats a really good point .
If the market can find more uses like that , it shall succeed .
I currently have an HP tablet that I really love... but never use in tablet mode .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thats a really good point.
If the market can find more uses like that, it shall succeed.
I currently have an HP tablet that I really love... but never use in tablet mode.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30676802</id>
	<title>Re:Courier</title>
	<author>nametaken</author>
	<datestamp>1262781600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly.  The Courier and the eDGe are not even in the same f'ing BALLPARK as each other.  One is an ereader with a small lcd.  One is a sexy executive style notebook powered by an unusual OneNote type interface and (presumably) Exchange &amp; Sharepoint sync support.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
The Courier and the eDGe are not even in the same f'ing BALLPARK as each other .
One is an ereader with a small lcd .
One is a sexy executive style notebook powered by an unusual OneNote type interface and ( presumably ) Exchange &amp; Sharepoint sync support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
The Courier and the eDGe are not even in the same f'ing BALLPARK as each other.
One is an ereader with a small lcd.
One is a sexy executive style notebook powered by an unusual OneNote type interface and (presumably) Exchange &amp; Sharepoint sync support.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30675514</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>ball-lightning</author>
	<datestamp>1262775240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ahem, you have not owned every tablet PC, becuase if you did you would know about Gateway's (now discontinued and sadly not replaced) C-140X.  I own one of these tablets, and two years after purchase, after much use, the batteries last almost exactly half as long as they used to, 6 hours.  With new batteries, it will run 12 hours no problem.  I'm typing this reply on it right now.  Yes, it is a bit large (14 inches) and heavy (haven't weighed it, but probably close to 8lbs with batteries) but I've taken notes on it for the past two and a half years, and it has been fantastic.

That being said, I think you are looking for something closer to what Lenovo has released with their C2D/snapdragon powered thing.  I'm really, really glad Lenovo hasn't turned into another Laptop mill.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ahem , you have not owned every tablet PC , becuase if you did you would know about Gateway 's ( now discontinued and sadly not replaced ) C-140X .
I own one of these tablets , and two years after purchase , after much use , the batteries last almost exactly half as long as they used to , 6 hours .
With new batteries , it will run 12 hours no problem .
I 'm typing this reply on it right now .
Yes , it is a bit large ( 14 inches ) and heavy ( have n't weighed it , but probably close to 8lbs with batteries ) but I 've taken notes on it for the past two and a half years , and it has been fantastic .
That being said , I think you are looking for something closer to what Lenovo has released with their C2D/snapdragon powered thing .
I 'm really , really glad Lenovo has n't turned into another Laptop mill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ahem, you have not owned every tablet PC, becuase if you did you would know about Gateway's (now discontinued and sadly not replaced) C-140X.
I own one of these tablets, and two years after purchase, after much use, the batteries last almost exactly half as long as they used to, 6 hours.
With new batteries, it will run 12 hours no problem.
I'm typing this reply on it right now.
Yes, it is a bit large (14 inches) and heavy (haven't weighed it, but probably close to 8lbs with batteries) but I've taken notes on it for the past two and a half years, and it has been fantastic.
That being said, I think you are looking for something closer to what Lenovo has released with their C2D/snapdragon powered thing.
I'm really, really glad Lenovo hasn't turned into another Laptop mill.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674182</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>Aeros</author>
	<datestamp>1262769120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>yea the 'Me-Too' comment was kind of lame.  So if you announce your own product before your competitors rumored product is announced... you have a 'Me-Too' product?</htmltext>
<tokenext>yea the 'Me-Too ' comment was kind of lame .
So if you announce your own product before your competitors rumored product is announced... you have a 'Me-Too ' product ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yea the 'Me-Too' comment was kind of lame.
So if you announce your own product before your competitors rumored product is announced... you have a 'Me-Too' product?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30680648</id>
	<title>Re:The Zune? Nope.</title>
	<author>JohnBailey</author>
	<datestamp>1262865240000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I know it's way late to ask that, but why ?!? I've listened to mp3s since before the Napster area and used mp3 players since the Rio and I don't see anything better about the iPods compared to the competition. Quite the opposite (no card reading ability for instance). So, I repeat, why are they so successful ? I find that the best mp3 player is simply my cell phone (no needless duplication of devices).
--</p></div><p>Simple.. Known quantity and availability.

Ignore any fanboy input, where the only requirement is to have an Apple logo to be the best ever anything..And you can get to the real issue. iProducts are the midi systems of the PMP world.

Realistically, go into any consumer electronics chain and you have a pretty pitiful range of choices. iProducts and a few cheap models, a couple of big brand names with disappointing spec perhaps, but that is about it. And that is where it ends for most.

The good stuff is really only available in online outlets. Which is possibly why many of the really cool far eastern PMPs never get outside Asia.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I know it 's way late to ask that , but why ? ! ?
I 've listened to mp3s since before the Napster area and used mp3 players since the Rio and I do n't see anything better about the iPods compared to the competition .
Quite the opposite ( no card reading ability for instance ) .
So , I repeat , why are they so successful ?
I find that the best mp3 player is simply my cell phone ( no needless duplication of devices ) .
--Simple.. Known quantity and availability .
Ignore any fanboy input , where the only requirement is to have an Apple logo to be the best ever anything..And you can get to the real issue .
iProducts are the midi systems of the PMP world .
Realistically , go into any consumer electronics chain and you have a pretty pitiful range of choices .
iProducts and a few cheap models , a couple of big brand names with disappointing spec perhaps , but that is about it .
And that is where it ends for most .
The good stuff is really only available in online outlets .
Which is possibly why many of the really cool far eastern PMPs never get outside Asia .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know it's way late to ask that, but why ?!?
I've listened to mp3s since before the Napster area and used mp3 players since the Rio and I don't see anything better about the iPods compared to the competition.
Quite the opposite (no card reading ability for instance).
So, I repeat, why are they so successful ?
I find that the best mp3 player is simply my cell phone (no needless duplication of devices).
--Simple.. Known quantity and availability.
Ignore any fanboy input, where the only requirement is to have an Apple logo to be the best ever anything..And you can get to the real issue.
iProducts are the midi systems of the PMP world.
Realistically, go into any consumer electronics chain and you have a pretty pitiful range of choices.
iProducts and a few cheap models, a couple of big brand names with disappointing spec perhaps, but that is about it.
And that is where it ends for most.
The good stuff is really only available in online outlets.
Which is possibly why many of the really cool far eastern PMPs never get outside Asia.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673180</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262807820000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>XBox360 also came out  a year before the PS3 or the Wii.  I'm sure that had something to do with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>XBox360 also came out a year before the PS3 or the Wii .
I 'm sure that had something to do with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>XBox360 also came out  a year before the PS3 or the Wii.
I'm sure that had something to do with it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672968</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>jpmorgan</author>
	<datestamp>1262806860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know why people buy the XBox 360, and why the ZuneHD is surprisingly popular? Because they're good products. And if the Courier is as good as some of the leaks suggest, people will buy it too.</p><p>You can sit there with your eeePC, ranting about stupid consumers and your holy war against the Microsoft empire. The rest of us will carry on not caring.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know why people buy the XBox 360 , and why the ZuneHD is surprisingly popular ?
Because they 're good products .
And if the Courier is as good as some of the leaks suggest , people will buy it too.You can sit there with your eeePC , ranting about stupid consumers and your holy war against the Microsoft empire .
The rest of us will carry on not caring .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know why people buy the XBox 360, and why the ZuneHD is surprisingly popular?
Because they're good products.
And if the Courier is as good as some of the leaks suggest, people will buy it too.You can sit there with your eeePC, ranting about stupid consumers and your holy war against the Microsoft empire.
The rest of us will carry on not caring.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674442</id>
	<title>Re:They can't even make a decent phone</title>
	<author>JSBiff</author>
	<datestamp>1262770140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, let's not forget "Plays For Sure" and the Zune.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , let 's not forget " Plays For Sure " and the Zune .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, let's not forget "Plays For Sure" and the Zune.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673146</id>
	<title>Re:Software</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1262807700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>iSlate needs to have all the functionality of the iTouch for games, mp3s, and videos, plus function as a good large print eBook reader. The population is aging; baby boomers don't have the eyesight they once had. Sure, it's a niche squeezed between smartphones with smaller displays and notebooks/netbooks without touch screens, but if they can get the price point below $500 they could sell well as a viable eBook reader. Don't most people like to be able to listen to music while they read? The only way to make up for the inconvenience of being harder to lug around is to combine the functionality of every device you may want in a single device -- it beats the heck out of lugging around a separate cell phone, mp3/video player, PDA, GPS, eBook reader and notebook. (Granted, most smart phones already combine the first 4).</htmltext>
<tokenext>iSlate needs to have all the functionality of the iTouch for games , mp3s , and videos , plus function as a good large print eBook reader .
The population is aging ; baby boomers do n't have the eyesight they once had .
Sure , it 's a niche squeezed between smartphones with smaller displays and notebooks/netbooks without touch screens , but if they can get the price point below $ 500 they could sell well as a viable eBook reader .
Do n't most people like to be able to listen to music while they read ?
The only way to make up for the inconvenience of being harder to lug around is to combine the functionality of every device you may want in a single device -- it beats the heck out of lugging around a separate cell phone , mp3/video player , PDA , GPS , eBook reader and notebook .
( Granted , most smart phones already combine the first 4 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iSlate needs to have all the functionality of the iTouch for games, mp3s, and videos, plus function as a good large print eBook reader.
The population is aging; baby boomers don't have the eyesight they once had.
Sure, it's a niche squeezed between smartphones with smaller displays and notebooks/netbooks without touch screens, but if they can get the price point below $500 they could sell well as a viable eBook reader.
Don't most people like to be able to listen to music while they read?
The only way to make up for the inconvenience of being harder to lug around is to combine the functionality of every device you may want in a single device -- it beats the heck out of lugging around a separate cell phone, mp3/video player, PDA, GPS, eBook reader and notebook.
(Granted, most smart phones already combine the first 4).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672566</id>
	<title>A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262805240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So the last thing Mr. Ballmer wants to hold up is a me-too device.</p></div><p>Huh, and here I was thinking that was <i>precisely</i> what he wanted to hold up.  A "Me-Too" device that is the only authorized Windows Tablet for Windows 7.  And it will sync with all your Microsoft crap and even let you carry around your Microsoft DRM'd media.  Just like I'm sure Apple's tablet will do the same thing with Apple replaced for Microsoft.  <br> <br>

Meanwhile here I'll sit with my eeePC running some flavor of Linux wondering when I'll get a tablet that provides support for open source.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Whether or not this announcement is intended as a direct response to the much-rumored Apple event that may or may not be happening on January 27th, consumers will perceive it as one</p></div><p>Oh no!  Then surely consumers will see this as Microsoft entering another market they aren't experts in and not buy the MS Tablet just like how no one bought the original XBox<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... oh, wait.  Well, surely all those consumers will see through this ruse just like they did when Microsoft released the Zune<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... oh, wait, that's still being shoved down our throats and people are still buying it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>And if Microsoft unveils a traditional tablet then 'they'll be up against the (presumably more expensive) iTablet and the cult of Apple.' But if the device is the dual-screen Courier, that we heard about back in September then it'll be up against the (presumably less expensive) enTourage eDGe</p></div><p>And the fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter if the market is large enough.  Take the PS3 Vs XBox360 vs Wii console war.  The XBox360 wasn't as powerful or as expensive as the PS3 yet wasn't as cheap as the Wii.  And yet people gobbled them up.  <br> <br>

The sad fact of the matter is that when you're the top dog in a lucrative industry and you're generating epic revenue, you have this peculiar ability to pay people to assess markets and then simply enter them by mirroring your opponents' every move in those markets.  And you know what?  With a good enough marketing team and a big enough brand name, you can't fail.  Two tired adages: 1) You need money to make money.  2) The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.  These apply on all scales.  <br> <br>

For how much us tech savvy people will be able to bash Microsoft's tablet, it will turn a profit.  Trust me, I don't say that as a fan I say that as a fact.</p></div>
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<tokenext>So the last thing Mr. Ballmer wants to hold up is a me-too device.Huh , and here I was thinking that was precisely what he wanted to hold up .
A " Me-Too " device that is the only authorized Windows Tablet for Windows 7 .
And it will sync with all your Microsoft crap and even let you carry around your Microsoft DRM 'd media .
Just like I 'm sure Apple 's tablet will do the same thing with Apple replaced for Microsoft .
Meanwhile here I 'll sit with my eeePC running some flavor of Linux wondering when I 'll get a tablet that provides support for open source.Whether or not this announcement is intended as a direct response to the much-rumored Apple event that may or may not be happening on January 27th , consumers will perceive it as oneOh no !
Then surely consumers will see this as Microsoft entering another market they are n't experts in and not buy the MS Tablet just like how no one bought the original XBox ... oh , wait .
Well , surely all those consumers will see through this ruse just like they did when Microsoft released the Zune ... oh , wait , that 's still being shoved down our throats and people are still buying it.And if Microsoft unveils a traditional tablet then 'they 'll be up against the ( presumably more expensive ) iTablet and the cult of Apple .
' But if the device is the dual-screen Courier , that we heard about back in September then it 'll be up against the ( presumably less expensive ) enTourage eDGeAnd the fact of the matter is that it does n't matter if the market is large enough .
Take the PS3 Vs XBox360 vs Wii console war .
The XBox360 was n't as powerful or as expensive as the PS3 yet was n't as cheap as the Wii .
And yet people gobbled them up .
The sad fact of the matter is that when you 're the top dog in a lucrative industry and you 're generating epic revenue , you have this peculiar ability to pay people to assess markets and then simply enter them by mirroring your opponents ' every move in those markets .
And you know what ?
With a good enough marketing team and a big enough brand name , you ca n't fail .
Two tired adages : 1 ) You need money to make money .
2 ) The rich get richer and the poor get poorer .
These apply on all scales .
For how much us tech savvy people will be able to bash Microsoft 's tablet , it will turn a profit .
Trust me , I do n't say that as a fan I say that as a fact .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So the last thing Mr. Ballmer wants to hold up is a me-too device.Huh, and here I was thinking that was precisely what he wanted to hold up.
A "Me-Too" device that is the only authorized Windows Tablet for Windows 7.
And it will sync with all your Microsoft crap and even let you carry around your Microsoft DRM'd media.
Just like I'm sure Apple's tablet will do the same thing with Apple replaced for Microsoft.
Meanwhile here I'll sit with my eeePC running some flavor of Linux wondering when I'll get a tablet that provides support for open source.Whether or not this announcement is intended as a direct response to the much-rumored Apple event that may or may not be happening on January 27th, consumers will perceive it as oneOh no!
Then surely consumers will see this as Microsoft entering another market they aren't experts in and not buy the MS Tablet just like how no one bought the original XBox ... oh, wait.
Well, surely all those consumers will see through this ruse just like they did when Microsoft released the Zune ... oh, wait, that's still being shoved down our throats and people are still buying it.And if Microsoft unveils a traditional tablet then 'they'll be up against the (presumably more expensive) iTablet and the cult of Apple.
' But if the device is the dual-screen Courier, that we heard about back in September then it'll be up against the (presumably less expensive) enTourage eDGeAnd the fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter if the market is large enough.
Take the PS3 Vs XBox360 vs Wii console war.
The XBox360 wasn't as powerful or as expensive as the PS3 yet wasn't as cheap as the Wii.
And yet people gobbled them up.
The sad fact of the matter is that when you're the top dog in a lucrative industry and you're generating epic revenue, you have this peculiar ability to pay people to assess markets and then simply enter them by mirroring your opponents' every move in those markets.
And you know what?
With a good enough marketing team and a big enough brand name, you can't fail.
Two tired adages: 1) You need money to make money.
2) The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
These apply on all scales.
For how much us tech savvy people will be able to bash Microsoft's tablet, it will turn a profit.
Trust me, I don't say that as a fan I say that as a fact.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30675990</id>
	<title>Re:Year of the tablet</title>
	<author>nickyj</author>
	<datestamp>1262777280000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As someone mentioned in one of the other comments, the Touch Book by Always Innovating is basically that. The keyboard is detachable and contains extra battery power, but the tablet portion is still usable. And it's on the fly dock/undock while working on it.</p><p><a href="http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/" title="alwaysinnovating.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/</a> [alwaysinnovating.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone mentioned in one of the other comments , the Touch Book by Always Innovating is basically that .
The keyboard is detachable and contains extra battery power , but the tablet portion is still usable .
And it 's on the fly dock/undock while working on it.http : //www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ [ alwaysinnovating.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone mentioned in one of the other comments, the Touch Book by Always Innovating is basically that.
The keyboard is detachable and contains extra battery power, but the tablet portion is still usable.
And it's on the fly dock/undock while working on it.http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ [alwaysinnovating.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673066</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>Enderandrew</author>
	<datestamp>1262807280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>I normally buy every major console with each generation, so don't assume this some fanboy rant, but I can't imagine wanting to buy a 360.</p><p>Fans and the media wanted to compare the cheap 360 with no HDD to the most expensive PS3 SKU's and pretend there was a huge cost disparity. At most times, the price difference between truly comparable 360 and PS3 models (both having similar HDDs) was $50.</p><p>So for $50 in price difference I get a free BluRay player, free online play, the ability to put in any cheap HDD I want easily without voiding warranty, and the ability to install Linux.</p><p>Even better, Sony had a deal where they'd give you $150 off the price of a PS3 with the Playstation card. (Said deal is down to $100 off). When the PS3 80 GB model was $400, I bought it brand new for $250. That sure as heck beat paying $350 for the 360.</p><p>My PS3 doesn't get particularly hot. I've never had problems with it. The 360 eats discs, runs super hot, and has something like a 40\% hardware failure rate.</p><p>Please tell me again that the 360 is a good product in comparison.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I normally buy every major console with each generation , so do n't assume this some fanboy rant , but I ca n't imagine wanting to buy a 360.Fans and the media wanted to compare the cheap 360 with no HDD to the most expensive PS3 SKU 's and pretend there was a huge cost disparity .
At most times , the price difference between truly comparable 360 and PS3 models ( both having similar HDDs ) was $ 50.So for $ 50 in price difference I get a free BluRay player , free online play , the ability to put in any cheap HDD I want easily without voiding warranty , and the ability to install Linux.Even better , Sony had a deal where they 'd give you $ 150 off the price of a PS3 with the Playstation card .
( Said deal is down to $ 100 off ) .
When the PS3 80 GB model was $ 400 , I bought it brand new for $ 250 .
That sure as heck beat paying $ 350 for the 360.My PS3 does n't get particularly hot .
I 've never had problems with it .
The 360 eats discs , runs super hot , and has something like a 40 \ % hardware failure rate.Please tell me again that the 360 is a good product in comparison .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I normally buy every major console with each generation, so don't assume this some fanboy rant, but I can't imagine wanting to buy a 360.Fans and the media wanted to compare the cheap 360 with no HDD to the most expensive PS3 SKU's and pretend there was a huge cost disparity.
At most times, the price difference between truly comparable 360 and PS3 models (both having similar HDDs) was $50.So for $50 in price difference I get a free BluRay player, free online play, the ability to put in any cheap HDD I want easily without voiding warranty, and the ability to install Linux.Even better, Sony had a deal where they'd give you $150 off the price of a PS3 with the Playstation card.
(Said deal is down to $100 off).
When the PS3 80 GB model was $400, I bought it brand new for $250.
That sure as heck beat paying $350 for the 360.My PS3 doesn't get particularly hot.
I've never had problems with it.
The 360 eats discs, runs super hot, and has something like a 40\% hardware failure rate.Please tell me again that the 360 is a good product in comparison.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674904</id>
	<title>Re:Year of the tablet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262772540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>mp3 players and smartphones were pretty niche too until someone made one that customers wanted. Kind of similar to before smartphones "broke the cusp" and offered everything I wanted in a smartphone (like a decent amount of memory, a real headphone jack, a usable web browser, and a real keyboard- well I caved on that when I got the iphone), tablets have been too heavy, too clunky, too short battery life, and too expensive. About 6 months ago I saw something I would have died to have about 6 years ago- a tablet that would open like a regular laptop, but then swivel around to be a typical tablet form factor so I could use it as an e-reader- I think they call these "convertibles" now. <a href="http://store.shopfujitsu.com/fpc/Ecommerce/productoverview.do?type=TB&amp;pgid=Tablets" title="shopfujitsu.com" rel="nofollow">http://store.shopfujitsu.com/fpc/Ecommerce/productoverview.do?type=TB&amp;pgid=Tablets</a> [shopfujitsu.com] Unfortunately it came too late, as the iphone works pretty well as an e-reader, and if I really want a dedicated e-reader now, I will just pick up a Kindle.</p><p>Personally I am quite skeptical of a tablet from either MS or Apple- unless they managed to do something like putting an OLED or e-ink screen on one at a reasonable cost without losing functionality, I think the time of the tablet has more or less passed.</p><p>BTW- I heard the technology for overlaying an e-ink screen over an LCD was close to becoming a reality last summer, so maybe this will be the big news?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>mp3 players and smartphones were pretty niche too until someone made one that customers wanted .
Kind of similar to before smartphones " broke the cusp " and offered everything I wanted in a smartphone ( like a decent amount of memory , a real headphone jack , a usable web browser , and a real keyboard- well I caved on that when I got the iphone ) , tablets have been too heavy , too clunky , too short battery life , and too expensive .
About 6 months ago I saw something I would have died to have about 6 years ago- a tablet that would open like a regular laptop , but then swivel around to be a typical tablet form factor so I could use it as an e-reader- I think they call these " convertibles " now .
http : //store.shopfujitsu.com/fpc/Ecommerce/productoverview.do ? type = TB&amp;pgid = Tablets [ shopfujitsu.com ] Unfortunately it came too late , as the iphone works pretty well as an e-reader , and if I really want a dedicated e-reader now , I will just pick up a Kindle.Personally I am quite skeptical of a tablet from either MS or Apple- unless they managed to do something like putting an OLED or e-ink screen on one at a reasonable cost without losing functionality , I think the time of the tablet has more or less passed.BTW- I heard the technology for overlaying an e-ink screen over an LCD was close to becoming a reality last summer , so maybe this will be the big news ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mp3 players and smartphones were pretty niche too until someone made one that customers wanted.
Kind of similar to before smartphones "broke the cusp" and offered everything I wanted in a smartphone (like a decent amount of memory, a real headphone jack, a usable web browser, and a real keyboard- well I caved on that when I got the iphone), tablets have been too heavy, too clunky, too short battery life, and too expensive.
About 6 months ago I saw something I would have died to have about 6 years ago- a tablet that would open like a regular laptop, but then swivel around to be a typical tablet form factor so I could use it as an e-reader- I think they call these "convertibles" now.
http://store.shopfujitsu.com/fpc/Ecommerce/productoverview.do?type=TB&amp;pgid=Tablets [shopfujitsu.com] Unfortunately it came too late, as the iphone works pretty well as an e-reader, and if I really want a dedicated e-reader now, I will just pick up a Kindle.Personally I am quite skeptical of a tablet from either MS or Apple- unless they managed to do something like putting an OLED or e-ink screen on one at a reasonable cost without losing functionality, I think the time of the tablet has more or less passed.BTW- I heard the technology for overlaying an e-ink screen over an LCD was close to becoming a reality last summer, so maybe this will be the big news?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Year of the tablet</title>
	<author>icegreentea</author>
	<datestamp>1262811240000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>There's a new Lenovo just like that! The IdeaPad U1 is more or less like that. It has a Snapdragon and a SSD in the "tablet portion". In laptop mode, it runs whatever you want (presumably selling it with Windows7), and in slate mode it runs a custom Linux.<br><br>linky:<br>http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/lenovo-ideapad-u1-hybrid-hands-on-and-impressions/</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a new Lenovo just like that !
The IdeaPad U1 is more or less like that .
It has a Snapdragon and a SSD in the " tablet portion " .
In laptop mode , it runs whatever you want ( presumably selling it with Windows7 ) , and in slate mode it runs a custom Linux.linky : http : //www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/lenovo-ideapad-u1-hybrid-hands-on-and-impressions/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a new Lenovo just like that!
The IdeaPad U1 is more or less like that.
It has a Snapdragon and a SSD in the "tablet portion".
In laptop mode, it runs whatever you want (presumably selling it with Windows7), and in slate mode it runs a custom Linux.linky:http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/lenovo-ideapad-u1-hybrid-hands-on-and-impressions/</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673998</id>
	<title>Re:I don't understand...</title>
	<author>Barlo\_Mung\_42</author>
	<datestamp>1262768460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I talked to a MS PM about this once.  He made an interesting point that Apple is a competitor on some level but it's much more considered to be a customer.  Microsoft's Apple Business Unit is one of a handful of groups that is profitable year after year.  So MS has some very good reasons to care what Apple does.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I talked to a MS PM about this once .
He made an interesting point that Apple is a competitor on some level but it 's much more considered to be a customer .
Microsoft 's Apple Business Unit is one of a handful of groups that is profitable year after year .
So MS has some very good reasons to care what Apple does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I talked to a MS PM about this once.
He made an interesting point that Apple is a competitor on some level but it's much more considered to be a customer.
Microsoft's Apple Business Unit is one of a handful of groups that is profitable year after year.
So MS has some very good reasons to care what Apple does.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673666</id>
	<title>Apple "leaks" were to steal Balmer's thunder</title>
	<author>zarmanto</author>
	<datestamp>1262810040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Huh.  I guess we can now see a slightly clearer picture of Apple's motivations for "leaking" a few choice details about their new tablet, weeks in advance of the official announcement: They must have caught wind of Microsoft's own development efforts and of this impending announcement, and they just wanted to make sure everyone understood that <i>Ballmer</i> is really the "me too" parrot, rather than allowing people to develop the mistaken impression that <i>Jobs</i> is the parrot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Huh .
I guess we can now see a slightly clearer picture of Apple 's motivations for " leaking " a few choice details about their new tablet , weeks in advance of the official announcement : They must have caught wind of Microsoft 's own development efforts and of this impending announcement , and they just wanted to make sure everyone understood that Ballmer is really the " me too " parrot , rather than allowing people to develop the mistaken impression that Jobs is the parrot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Huh.
I guess we can now see a slightly clearer picture of Apple's motivations for "leaking" a few choice details about their new tablet, weeks in advance of the official announcement: They must have caught wind of Microsoft's own development efforts and of this impending announcement, and they just wanted to make sure everyone understood that Ballmer is really the "me too" parrot, rather than allowing people to develop the mistaken impression that Jobs is the parrot.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673880</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>minderaser</author>
	<datestamp>1262811120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ahhh!! Spit and hellfire!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ahhh ! !
Spit and hellfire !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ahhh!!
Spit and hellfire!
!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30675086</id>
	<title>Re:Good</title>
	<author>SoupIsGoodFood\_42</author>
	<datestamp>1262773320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not interested in doing drawing/photo work on a tablet unless it has pressure sensitivity, like a Wacom tablet. Perhaps something will be available aftermarket for Apple's tablet, but I don't expect it to come with anything other than a capacitive touchscreen -- it certainly won't be shipping with a stylus, let alone anything more advanced. I doubt very much that it will be targeted for artists, although I'm sure some good apps will appear for that. It's main function will be for web browsing and multimedia, because that's what mainstream users will want from a tablet. Perhaps you haven't noticed, but most people don't do much typing when they're just browsing the web, reading things, or watching videos, so losing the keyboard to make a more portable device will make a lot of sense to many people, especially if they've used an iPhone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not interested in doing drawing/photo work on a tablet unless it has pressure sensitivity , like a Wacom tablet .
Perhaps something will be available aftermarket for Apple 's tablet , but I do n't expect it to come with anything other than a capacitive touchscreen -- it certainly wo n't be shipping with a stylus , let alone anything more advanced .
I doubt very much that it will be targeted for artists , although I 'm sure some good apps will appear for that .
It 's main function will be for web browsing and multimedia , because that 's what mainstream users will want from a tablet .
Perhaps you have n't noticed , but most people do n't do much typing when they 're just browsing the web , reading things , or watching videos , so losing the keyboard to make a more portable device will make a lot of sense to many people , especially if they 've used an iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not interested in doing drawing/photo work on a tablet unless it has pressure sensitivity, like a Wacom tablet.
Perhaps something will be available aftermarket for Apple's tablet, but I don't expect it to come with anything other than a capacitive touchscreen -- it certainly won't be shipping with a stylus, let alone anything more advanced.
I doubt very much that it will be targeted for artists, although I'm sure some good apps will appear for that.
It's main function will be for web browsing and multimedia, because that's what mainstream users will want from a tablet.
Perhaps you haven't noticed, but most people don't do much typing when they're just browsing the web, reading things, or watching videos, so losing the keyboard to make a more portable device will make a lot of sense to many people, especially if they've used an iPhone.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30672872</id>
	<title>One thing Microsoft doesn't have</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262806500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's called iTunes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's called iTunes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's called iTunes.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673346</id>
	<title>Re:1st vendor to release a PADD from TNG gets my $</title>
	<author>aztektum</author>
	<datestamp>1262808600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaBJb8nkXac" title="youtube.com">Looks like you owe Nokia some $$</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like you owe Nokia some $ $ [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like you owe Nokia some $$ [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673154</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1262807760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sadly, Linux and OSS never get a press conference (who would hold it, after all?). All of these trade shows tend to come down to a pissing contest between Apple and MS, or Verizon/AT&amp;T/Sprint/T-Mobile or whoever, and open source and Linux get overlooked once again. Ask anyone at CES about open source and they'll just stare at you blankly. These trade shows are just a great big proprietary/capitalism/closed-source circle-jerk.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sadly , Linux and OSS never get a press conference ( who would hold it , after all ? ) .
All of these trade shows tend to come down to a pissing contest between Apple and MS , or Verizon/AT&amp;T/Sprint/T-Mobile or whoever , and open source and Linux get overlooked once again .
Ask anyone at CES about open source and they 'll just stare at you blankly .
These trade shows are just a great big proprietary/capitalism/closed-source circle-jerk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sadly, Linux and OSS never get a press conference (who would hold it, after all?).
All of these trade shows tend to come down to a pissing contest between Apple and MS, or Verizon/AT&amp;T/Sprint/T-Mobile or whoever, and open source and Linux get overlooked once again.
Ask anyone at CES about open source and they'll just stare at you blankly.
These trade shows are just a great big proprietary/capitalism/closed-source circle-jerk.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30673744</id>
	<title>Re:A Mimic Device Is Precisely What They Want</title>
	<author>larry bagina</author>
	<datestamp>1262810460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>iWork has support for Word, Excel, and Powerpoint.  If Apple doesn't provide an iWork iSlave app, surely someone else will write an app with some MS Office support.</htmltext>
<tokenext>iWork has support for Word , Excel , and Powerpoint .
If Apple does n't provide an iWork iSlave app , surely someone else will write an app with some MS Office support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iWork has support for Word, Excel, and Powerpoint.
If Apple doesn't provide an iWork iSlave app, surely someone else will write an app with some MS Office support.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1515251.30674018</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to media objectivity?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262768520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The NYT article is ridiculous. Granted Apple will probably release a tablet like device or at least announce it in the next month or so. However how can MS/HP announce a me-too device without there being a device to emulate?</p><p>What's unfortunate is that as usual the Mac boosters in the media who believe that the Mac is the be all for all users are going to pass judgement on this device by comparing it to the mythical Apple tablet. It's like comparing a good race horse to a unicorn sure that horse is fast, but it's not a magical and can't fly. (Granted Apple may deliver a unicorn, but the point is it just doesn't exist yet however cool it may be)</p></div><p>Are you saying that Microsoft released the actual product before the vaporware announcement? So typical of Microsoft to put the cart before the horse!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The NYT article is ridiculous .
Granted Apple will probably release a tablet like device or at least announce it in the next month or so .
However how can MS/HP announce a me-too device without there being a device to emulate ? What 's unfortunate is that as usual the Mac boosters in the media who believe that the Mac is the be all for all users are going to pass judgement on this device by comparing it to the mythical Apple tablet .
It 's like comparing a good race horse to a unicorn sure that horse is fast , but it 's not a magical and ca n't fly .
( Granted Apple may deliver a unicorn , but the point is it just does n't exist yet however cool it may be ) Are you saying that Microsoft released the actual product before the vaporware announcement ?
So typical of Microsoft to put the cart before the horse !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The NYT article is ridiculous.
Granted Apple will probably release a tablet like device or at least announce it in the next month or so.
However how can MS/HP announce a me-too device without there being a device to emulate?What's unfortunate is that as usual the Mac boosters in the media who believe that the Mac is the be all for all users are going to pass judgement on this device by comparing it to the mythical Apple tablet.
It's like comparing a good race horse to a unicorn sure that horse is fast, but it's not a magical and can't fly.
(Granted Apple may deliver a unicorn, but the point is it just doesn't exist yet however cool it may be)Are you saying that Microsoft released the actual product before the vaporware announcement?
So typical of Microsoft to put the cart before the horse!
	</sentencetext>
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