<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_05_1942233</id>
	<title>Google's Nexus One Phone Launches</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1262679600000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>The press conference at the Googleplex is over and <a href="http://www.google.com/phone">Google's Nexus One phone has launched</a> (<a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/our-new-approach-to-buying-mobile-phone.html">official Google blog announcement</a>). The NY Times <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/06/technology/internet/06google.html">confirms the bare details</a>: manufactured by HTC; $529 unlocked, $179 with 2-year T-Mobile contract; coming to Verizon in the US, and Vodaphone in Europe, in "Spring 2010." The Times notes one desirable feature: "[Google] has also voice-enabled all text boxes in the device, so a user can speak into the device to, for instance, compose an e-mail, rather than type the text of the email." Walt Mossberg <a href="http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20100105/googles-nexus-one-is-bold-new-face-in-super-smartphones/?mod=ATD\_iphone">points out one limitation</a>: "On the Nexus One, only 190 megabytes of its total 4.5 gigabytes of memory is allowed for storing apps. On the $199 iPhone, nearly all of the 16 gigabytes of memory can be used for apps." No answers yet to the obvious questions: can it tether on T-Mobile? Will it allow VoIP?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The press conference at the Googleplex is over and Google 's Nexus One phone has launched ( official Google blog announcement ) .
The NY Times confirms the bare details : manufactured by HTC ; $ 529 unlocked , $ 179 with 2-year T-Mobile contract ; coming to Verizon in the US , and Vodaphone in Europe , in " Spring 2010 .
" The Times notes one desirable feature : " [ Google ] has also voice-enabled all text boxes in the device , so a user can speak into the device to , for instance , compose an e-mail , rather than type the text of the email .
" Walt Mossberg points out one limitation : " On the Nexus One , only 190 megabytes of its total 4.5 gigabytes of memory is allowed for storing apps .
On the $ 199 iPhone , nearly all of the 16 gigabytes of memory can be used for apps .
" No answers yet to the obvious questions : can it tether on T-Mobile ?
Will it allow VoIP ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The press conference at the Googleplex is over and Google's Nexus One phone has launched (official Google blog announcement).
The NY Times confirms the bare details: manufactured by HTC; $529 unlocked, $179 with 2-year T-Mobile contract; coming to Verizon in the US, and Vodaphone in Europe, in "Spring 2010.
" The Times notes one desirable feature: "[Google] has also voice-enabled all text boxes in the device, so a user can speak into the device to, for instance, compose an e-mail, rather than type the text of the email.
" Walt Mossberg points out one limitation: "On the Nexus One, only 190 megabytes of its total 4.5 gigabytes of memory is allowed for storing apps.
On the $199 iPhone, nearly all of the 16 gigabytes of memory can be used for apps.
" No answers yet to the obvious questions: can it tether on T-Mobile?
Will it allow VoIP?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660370</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262685120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>-Faster CPU
<br>-Better integrated with Google apps and services (ie: no using Bing when the Google Search is better integrated with the phone)
<br>-Runs on something other than Verizon (unlike the Droid), namely ATT &amp; TMo.
<br>-More storage space
<br>-(for those who dont like em or the added bulkiness) it doesnt have a physical keyboard (for me, that's a drawback)
<br>-Android 2.1
<br>-Cheaper overall plans from TMo (since the Droid only runs on Verizon, I think it's a valid comparison point)</htmltext>
<tokenext>-Faster CPU -Better integrated with Google apps and services ( ie : no using Bing when the Google Search is better integrated with the phone ) -Runs on something other than Verizon ( unlike the Droid ) , namely ATT &amp; TMo .
-More storage space - ( for those who dont like em or the added bulkiness ) it doesnt have a physical keyboard ( for me , that 's a drawback ) -Android 2.1 -Cheaper overall plans from TMo ( since the Droid only runs on Verizon , I think it 's a valid comparison point )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>-Faster CPU
-Better integrated with Google apps and services (ie: no using Bing when the Google Search is better integrated with the phone)
-Runs on something other than Verizon (unlike the Droid), namely ATT &amp; TMo.
-More storage space
-(for those who dont like em or the added bulkiness) it doesnt have a physical keyboard (for me, that's a drawback)
-Android 2.1
-Cheaper overall plans from TMo (since the Droid only runs on Verizon, I think it's a valid comparison point)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30665474</id>
	<title>One step at a time...</title>
	<author>electrosoccertux</author>
	<datestamp>1262711520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't worry this is what they're planning...<br>This is also what MetroPCS is planning, they want to deploy LTE ASAP and run everything over the data connection because, for calls at least, it drops their costs by something absurd like 90\%. Who knows if it'll have unlimited data, I don't care, it'll probably be 10 or something GB, which will be enough (I frankly don't care if you want to torrent on your phone connection-- I don't want to subsidize that, not now at least<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't worry this is what they 're planning...This is also what MetroPCS is planning , they want to deploy LTE ASAP and run everything over the data connection because , for calls at least , it drops their costs by something absurd like 90 \ % .
Who knows if it 'll have unlimited data , I do n't care , it 'll probably be 10 or something GB , which will be enough ( I frankly do n't care if you want to torrent on your phone connection-- I do n't want to subsidize that , not now at least ; ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't worry this is what they're planning...This is also what MetroPCS is planning, they want to deploy LTE ASAP and run everything over the data connection because, for calls at least, it drops their costs by something absurd like 90\%.
Who knows if it'll have unlimited data, I don't care, it'll probably be 10 or something GB, which will be enough (I frankly don't care if you want to torrent on your phone connection-- I don't want to subsidize that, not now at least ;).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662314</id>
	<title>Re:Choice, what a joke</title>
	<author>bennomatic</author>
	<datestamp>1262693280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're totally right, but here's what I foresee happening:
<br> <br>
Disruptive cell phone company builds a phone that has all that hardware to support consumer choice.
<br> <br>
A few people buy it, and maybe 1/10 of those people actually move from provider to provider.  Once those folks have moved a couple of times, they run out of choices unless they move to a new region.
<br> <br>
Within the product's two-year life cycle, a brazillian new features come into existence.
<br> <br>
Purchasers of the disruptive phone decide to go with a less hardware-laden model which costs $100.00 less.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're totally right , but here 's what I foresee happening : Disruptive cell phone company builds a phone that has all that hardware to support consumer choice .
A few people buy it , and maybe 1/10 of those people actually move from provider to provider .
Once those folks have moved a couple of times , they run out of choices unless they move to a new region .
Within the product 's two-year life cycle , a brazillian new features come into existence .
Purchasers of the disruptive phone decide to go with a less hardware-laden model which costs $ 100.00 less .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're totally right, but here's what I foresee happening:
 
Disruptive cell phone company builds a phone that has all that hardware to support consumer choice.
A few people buy it, and maybe 1/10 of those people actually move from provider to provider.
Once those folks have moved a couple of times, they run out of choices unless they move to a new region.
Within the product's two-year life cycle, a brazillian new features come into existence.
Purchasers of the disruptive phone decide to go with a less hardware-laden model which costs $100.00 less.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660406</id>
	<title>Re:Only $529!</title>
	<author>prometx42</author>
	<datestamp>1262685180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, SandwhichMaster, I am sick of technology pricing, generally; but you're right, this phone/contract stuff is truly "through the looking glass". Modern economics is truly ridiculous. No wonder it seems to be flying apart at the seams; to the degree that so much smoke and mirrors can actually be said to actually have "seams"...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , SandwhichMaster , I am sick of technology pricing , generally ; but you 're right , this phone/contract stuff is truly " through the looking glass " .
Modern economics is truly ridiculous .
No wonder it seems to be flying apart at the seams ; to the degree that so much smoke and mirrors can actually be said to actually have " seams " .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, SandwhichMaster, I am sick of technology pricing, generally; but you're right, this phone/contract stuff is truly "through the looking glass".
Modern economics is truly ridiculous.
No wonder it seems to be flying apart at the seams; to the degree that so much smoke and mirrors can actually be said to actually have "seams"...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663498</id>
	<title>Re:"I have an iPhone" LOL!</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1262698920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed. On that note, it's depressing that the media have to compare the phone to only the Iphone all the time. Who cares if the $199 Iphone can use all the space for applications. A Nokia 5800 which you get <i>for free</i> can use all the space for applications. On top of that, you can run any application that you like, not just those that Nokia like. And Nokia only have like, you know, 40\% of the market. Compared to Apple's few per cent...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed .
On that note , it 's depressing that the media have to compare the phone to only the Iphone all the time .
Who cares if the $ 199 Iphone can use all the space for applications .
A Nokia 5800 which you get for free can use all the space for applications .
On top of that , you can run any application that you like , not just those that Nokia like .
And Nokia only have like , you know , 40 \ % of the market .
Compared to Apple 's few per cent.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed.
On that note, it's depressing that the media have to compare the phone to only the Iphone all the time.
Who cares if the $199 Iphone can use all the space for applications.
A Nokia 5800 which you get for free can use all the space for applications.
On top of that, you can run any application that you like, not just those that Nokia like.
And Nokia only have like, you know, 40\% of the market.
Compared to Apple's few per cent...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662078</id>
	<title>Re:Ogg support - sweet</title>
	<author>trampel</author>
	<datestamp>1262692200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Short answer: yes.
<p>
I own a Motorola Cliq (and like it BTW), and noticed that many all of the ringtone files have a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.ogg suffix.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Short answer : yes .
I own a Motorola Cliq ( and like it BTW ) , and noticed that many all of the ringtone files have a .ogg suffix .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Short answer: yes.
I own a Motorola Cliq (and like it BTW), and noticed that many all of the ringtone files have a .ogg suffix.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660792</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>JetTredmont</author>
	<datestamp>1262686680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wouldn't you use GoogleVoice instead of the talk minutes when calling?  I thought that was one of the draws of Google's Android (although I haven't gone deep enough into the release info to see if it's still there).</p><p>As for the plan being different with the phone than without, T-Mobile is taking $350 off the price of the phone for your 2-year commitment plus the extra $20/month (<a href="http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans-detail.aspx?tp=tb1&amp;rateplan=Even-More-Plus-500-Talk-Text-Web" title="t-mobile.com" rel="nofollow">the plan with unlimited data</a> [t-mobile.com], as with the Nexus One plan, is $59/mo, $20 less than the N1 plan).  I dunno, sounds like a really bad deal, but might appeal to those who absolutely have to have a phone now and have $200 to spend but not $600 to spend.  Note that T-Mobile usually tacks on $10/month for non-contract plans, but the contract plans on their site don't appear to offer unlimited data, so there's no apples-to-apples comparison.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't you use GoogleVoice instead of the talk minutes when calling ?
I thought that was one of the draws of Google 's Android ( although I have n't gone deep enough into the release info to see if it 's still there ) .As for the plan being different with the phone than without , T-Mobile is taking $ 350 off the price of the phone for your 2-year commitment plus the extra $ 20/month ( the plan with unlimited data [ t-mobile.com ] , as with the Nexus One plan , is $ 59/mo , $ 20 less than the N1 plan ) .
I dunno , sounds like a really bad deal , but might appeal to those who absolutely have to have a phone now and have $ 200 to spend but not $ 600 to spend .
Note that T-Mobile usually tacks on $ 10/month for non-contract plans , but the contract plans on their site do n't appear to offer unlimited data , so there 's no apples-to-apples comparison .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't you use GoogleVoice instead of the talk minutes when calling?
I thought that was one of the draws of Google's Android (although I haven't gone deep enough into the release info to see if it's still there).As for the plan being different with the phone than without, T-Mobile is taking $350 off the price of the phone for your 2-year commitment plus the extra $20/month (the plan with unlimited data [t-mobile.com], as with the Nexus One plan, is $59/mo, $20 less than the N1 plan).
I dunno, sounds like a really bad deal, but might appeal to those who absolutely have to have a phone now and have $200 to spend but not $600 to spend.
Note that T-Mobile usually tacks on $10/month for non-contract plans, but the contract plans on their site don't appear to offer unlimited data, so there's no apples-to-apples comparison.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30665382</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>electrosoccertux</author>
	<datestamp>1262710800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can't use that for business, some calls from VOIP office lines do not come to my Gvoice. I stumbled on this by chance while testing calling from work. I submitted a report about it. We'll see.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't use that for business , some calls from VOIP office lines do not come to my Gvoice .
I stumbled on this by chance while testing calling from work .
I submitted a report about it .
We 'll see .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't use that for business, some calls from VOIP office lines do not come to my Gvoice.
I stumbled on this by chance while testing calling from work.
I submitted a report about it.
We'll see.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660752</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660348</id>
	<title>Re:No Multitouch</title>
	<author>solipsist0x01</author>
	<datestamp>1262685060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not true at all, Android does support multitouch.  A lot of this confusion comes from the fact that the Android Browser doesn't support pinch zoom in / out.  There are plenty of apps including games on the market that support mulitouch.  For example the free Dolphin browser which supports pinch zoom.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not true at all , Android does support multitouch .
A lot of this confusion comes from the fact that the Android Browser does n't support pinch zoom in / out .
There are plenty of apps including games on the market that support mulitouch .
For example the free Dolphin browser which supports pinch zoom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not true at all, Android does support multitouch.
A lot of this confusion comes from the fact that the Android Browser doesn't support pinch zoom in / out.
There are plenty of apps including games on the market that support mulitouch.
For example the free Dolphin browser which supports pinch zoom.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661060</id>
	<title>Re:gaming?</title>
	<author>ajs</author>
	<datestamp>1262687820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>For normal activities (surfing, vids, nav, etc) 1ghz is overkill.  The biggest beneficiary of all that CPU and GPU power is gaming.  But without multitouch, gaming will be terribly restricted.  So WTF am I supposed to play on this thing -- 3D, HD whack-a-mole?</p></div><p>I don't buy that I need multi-touch to play games. Sure, some UIs might be more intuitive that way, but as long as I can drag and poke, most of what I want from a game is there. What's more, I'd want most games to take advantage of being able to use the touch-screen and D-pad at the same time anyway.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For normal activities ( surfing , vids , nav , etc ) 1ghz is overkill .
The biggest beneficiary of all that CPU and GPU power is gaming .
But without multitouch , gaming will be terribly restricted .
So WTF am I supposed to play on this thing -- 3D , HD whack-a-mole ? I do n't buy that I need multi-touch to play games .
Sure , some UIs might be more intuitive that way , but as long as I can drag and poke , most of what I want from a game is there .
What 's more , I 'd want most games to take advantage of being able to use the touch-screen and D-pad at the same time anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For normal activities (surfing, vids, nav, etc) 1ghz is overkill.
The biggest beneficiary of all that CPU and GPU power is gaming.
But without multitouch, gaming will be terribly restricted.
So WTF am I supposed to play on this thing -- 3D, HD whack-a-mole?I don't buy that I need multi-touch to play games.
Sure, some UIs might be more intuitive that way, but as long as I can drag and poke, most of what I want from a game is there.
What's more, I'd want most games to take advantage of being able to use the touch-screen and D-pad at the same time anyway.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661796</id>
	<title>Re:I was hoping for a new business model</title>
	<author>ultramk</author>
	<datestamp>1262690940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, you might need the $70 Apple Care, or you might not. I've had my 3G since launch day (though my wife is using it now) and the battery life is still good. If that changes, it's $86 to have them replace it.</p><p>I prefer to pay for things when I actually need them, though, instead of buying in advance on the assumption that I will someday need it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , you might need the $ 70 Apple Care , or you might not .
I 've had my 3G since launch day ( though my wife is using it now ) and the battery life is still good .
If that changes , it 's $ 86 to have them replace it.I prefer to pay for things when I actually need them , though , instead of buying in advance on the assumption that I will someday need it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, you might need the $70 Apple Care, or you might not.
I've had my 3G since launch day (though my wife is using it now) and the battery life is still good.
If that changes, it's $86 to have them replace it.I prefer to pay for things when I actually need them, though, instead of buying in advance on the assumption that I will someday need it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30668106</id>
	<title>Re:Only $529!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262784360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree.  Fuck, for the price of the Nexus, I can get a laptop with more features, including a keyboard.   Don't get me started on the network.  I live in St. Louis and pay over $200/month for a family cell phone plan with data.  This does not include my home service (needed for DSL), and my cable bill.  Yeah, I am bitching about having to buy something that some people can live without.  It is just fucking bullshit that my data (phone, cable, internet) costs me, almost, what my mortgage payment is, or what a monthly payment on a new car might cost.     So, do I think this google phone is something neat?  Fuck no.    Fucking neat would be something more affordable -- mainly the service plans.    Shit, $500 for a cell phone, people are fucking nuts if they think that is a good deal.    Hell, you can by a cheap phone AND a freaking laptop for the same price and have more features.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
Fuck , for the price of the Nexus , I can get a laptop with more features , including a keyboard .
Do n't get me started on the network .
I live in St. Louis and pay over $ 200/month for a family cell phone plan with data .
This does not include my home service ( needed for DSL ) , and my cable bill .
Yeah , I am bitching about having to buy something that some people can live without .
It is just fucking bullshit that my data ( phone , cable , internet ) costs me , almost , what my mortgage payment is , or what a monthly payment on a new car might cost .
So , do I think this google phone is something neat ?
Fuck no .
Fucking neat would be something more affordable -- mainly the service plans .
Shit , $ 500 for a cell phone , people are fucking nuts if they think that is a good deal .
Hell , you can by a cheap phone AND a freaking laptop for the same price and have more features .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
Fuck, for the price of the Nexus, I can get a laptop with more features, including a keyboard.
Don't get me started on the network.
I live in St. Louis and pay over $200/month for a family cell phone plan with data.
This does not include my home service (needed for DSL), and my cable bill.
Yeah, I am bitching about having to buy something that some people can live without.
It is just fucking bullshit that my data (phone, cable, internet) costs me, almost, what my mortgage payment is, or what a monthly payment on a new car might cost.
So, do I think this google phone is something neat?
Fuck no.
Fucking neat would be something more affordable -- mainly the service plans.
Shit, $500 for a cell phone, people are fucking nuts if they think that is a good deal.
Hell, you can by a cheap phone AND a freaking laptop for the same price and have more features.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661118</id>
	<title>Re:UMTS crippled on purpose? will not work on ATT</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262688120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't necessarily understand with the obsession over how much coverage you have over the entire united states. Wouldn't it make sense to see if you have coverage where you are going to be using it? It is a fairly easy thing to check where a provider has coverage. I have friends that brag about being able to use their iphone more places in the world than any other provider, but in addition to not traveling much, they don't get coverage in their own home. Seems silly to me.</p><p>On the other hand inadequate network to support a providers customers in an area is a different issue. When I was with cingular in the 90's, always had problems with not being able to make a call because of "network busy, try again later" problem. I switched to MetroPCS in their first year and was very happy. They had extremely limited coverage when I joined, but it worked where they said it would work, and planned ahead when going to areas that had no coverage. Despite knowing this was going to be an issue, I figured it would be worth it for the price, but each year their coverage expanded at a much faster pace than they had said.<br>
&nbsp; <br>After 10 years with metroPCS switched to T-mobile very recently because 1) really wanted a droid and 2) wanted a cheap unlimited plan.<br>
&nbsp; <br>I just want to do business with a company that provides what they say they provide and charge what they say they are going to charge. Despite some drawbacks of t-mobile, I know what they are, and they seem least likely to be liars or cheaters. Amazing how difficult it is to find that in a cell phone plan.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't necessarily understand with the obsession over how much coverage you have over the entire united states .
Would n't it make sense to see if you have coverage where you are going to be using it ?
It is a fairly easy thing to check where a provider has coverage .
I have friends that brag about being able to use their iphone more places in the world than any other provider , but in addition to not traveling much , they do n't get coverage in their own home .
Seems silly to me.On the other hand inadequate network to support a providers customers in an area is a different issue .
When I was with cingular in the 90 's , always had problems with not being able to make a call because of " network busy , try again later " problem .
I switched to MetroPCS in their first year and was very happy .
They had extremely limited coverage when I joined , but it worked where they said it would work , and planned ahead when going to areas that had no coverage .
Despite knowing this was going to be an issue , I figured it would be worth it for the price , but each year their coverage expanded at a much faster pace than they had said .
  After 10 years with metroPCS switched to T-mobile very recently because 1 ) really wanted a droid and 2 ) wanted a cheap unlimited plan .
  I just want to do business with a company that provides what they say they provide and charge what they say they are going to charge .
Despite some drawbacks of t-mobile , I know what they are , and they seem least likely to be liars or cheaters .
Amazing how difficult it is to find that in a cell phone plan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't necessarily understand with the obsession over how much coverage you have over the entire united states.
Wouldn't it make sense to see if you have coverage where you are going to be using it?
It is a fairly easy thing to check where a provider has coverage.
I have friends that brag about being able to use their iphone more places in the world than any other provider, but in addition to not traveling much, they don't get coverage in their own home.
Seems silly to me.On the other hand inadequate network to support a providers customers in an area is a different issue.
When I was with cingular in the 90's, always had problems with not being able to make a call because of "network busy, try again later" problem.
I switched to MetroPCS in their first year and was very happy.
They had extremely limited coverage when I joined, but it worked where they said it would work, and planned ahead when going to areas that had no coverage.
Despite knowing this was going to be an issue, I figured it would be worth it for the price, but each year their coverage expanded at a much faster pace than they had said.
  After 10 years with metroPCS switched to T-mobile very recently because 1) really wanted a droid and 2) wanted a cheap unlimited plan.
  I just want to do business with a company that provides what they say they provide and charge what they say they are going to charge.
Despite some drawbacks of t-mobile, I know what they are, and they seem least likely to be liars or cheaters.
Amazing how difficult it is to find that in a cell phone plan.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660508</id>
	<title>This is about advertising for Google.</title>
	<author>mcwop</author>
	<datestamp>1262685600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google realizes that mobile will be a huge extension of the desktop/PC dominated internet. A few years out, significant web traffic will be mobile - thus advertising. Google is trying to get Android on as many phones as possible - Google phone or otherwise. Android is meant to disrupt the phone marketplace so that no one company can dominate and prevent/block Google's advertising capabilities. Android was designed more to upset Windows Mobile than Apple's iPhone. Google does not want Bing to get traction in this area.
<p>
Google wants a plethora of devices, the Google phone seems to be the first attempt to try and create an unlocked phone marketplace, which will help their cause. This new phone is a small attempt to start doing that. Maybe so the wireless carriers cannot easily block Google's advertising.
</p><p>
More evidence that this is about advertising is Apple's purchase of mobile advertising company Quattro Wireless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google realizes that mobile will be a huge extension of the desktop/PC dominated internet .
A few years out , significant web traffic will be mobile - thus advertising .
Google is trying to get Android on as many phones as possible - Google phone or otherwise .
Android is meant to disrupt the phone marketplace so that no one company can dominate and prevent/block Google 's advertising capabilities .
Android was designed more to upset Windows Mobile than Apple 's iPhone .
Google does not want Bing to get traction in this area .
Google wants a plethora of devices , the Google phone seems to be the first attempt to try and create an unlocked phone marketplace , which will help their cause .
This new phone is a small attempt to start doing that .
Maybe so the wireless carriers can not easily block Google 's advertising .
More evidence that this is about advertising is Apple 's purchase of mobile advertising company Quattro Wireless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google realizes that mobile will be a huge extension of the desktop/PC dominated internet.
A few years out, significant web traffic will be mobile - thus advertising.
Google is trying to get Android on as many phones as possible - Google phone or otherwise.
Android is meant to disrupt the phone marketplace so that no one company can dominate and prevent/block Google's advertising capabilities.
Android was designed more to upset Windows Mobile than Apple's iPhone.
Google does not want Bing to get traction in this area.
Google wants a plethora of devices, the Google phone seems to be the first attempt to try and create an unlocked phone marketplace, which will help their cause.
This new phone is a small attempt to start doing that.
Maybe so the wireless carriers cannot easily block Google's advertising.
More evidence that this is about advertising is Apple's purchase of mobile advertising company Quattro Wireless.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660666</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262686200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's only the executable and library files that have to be in this "protected" part of the memory. All those maps, graphics, textures etc.. can be loaded on the SD card.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's only the executable and library files that have to be in this " protected " part of the memory .
All those maps , graphics , textures etc.. can be loaded on the SD card .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's only the executable and library files that have to be in this "protected" part of the memory.
All those maps, graphics, textures etc.. can be loaded on the SD card.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662756</id>
	<title>In WinMo it's 2016</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262695620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Windows Mobile is having trouble figuring out what <a href="http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/01/windows-mobile-bug-dates-messages-from-2016/" title="wired.com" rel="nofollow">year this is</a> [wired.com].  The next version isn't out until <a href="http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/12/windows-mobile-7-delayed-until-late-2010/" title="wired.com" rel="nofollow">"late this year"</a> [wired.com], and in Windows land that means maybe not until it's <i>actually</i> 2016.
</p><p>And then there's the whole <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/press/2009/oct09/10-13sidekick.mspx" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">Danger</a> [microsoft.com] fiasco.
</p><p>Win Mo?  You can keep it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows Mobile is having trouble figuring out what year this is [ wired.com ] .
The next version is n't out until " late this year " [ wired.com ] , and in Windows land that means maybe not until it 's actually 2016 .
And then there 's the whole Danger [ microsoft.com ] fiasco .
Win Mo ?
You can keep it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows Mobile is having trouble figuring out what year this is [wired.com].
The next version isn't out until "late this year" [wired.com], and in Windows land that means maybe not until it's actually 2016.
And then there's the whole Danger [microsoft.com] fiasco.
Win Mo?
You can keep it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660742</id>
	<title>Re:No Multitouch</title>
	<author>pwfffff</author>
	<datestamp>1262686500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The first ever Android phone, ever, had multi-touch. No, it's not implemented in the Android interfaces. Thank Apple for that. Any app can use it though. The browser I use on my G1 has multitouch.</p><p>Keep spreadin' that FUD though! Tastes good!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The first ever Android phone , ever , had multi-touch .
No , it 's not implemented in the Android interfaces .
Thank Apple for that .
Any app can use it though .
The browser I use on my G1 has multitouch.Keep spreadin ' that FUD though !
Tastes good !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The first ever Android phone, ever, had multi-touch.
No, it's not implemented in the Android interfaces.
Thank Apple for that.
Any app can use it though.
The browser I use on my G1 has multitouch.Keep spreadin' that FUD though!
Tastes good!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661340</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262688960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Generally, an Android app that needs lots of data like this (maps, images, etc) would download the data onto the SD card.  So comparing a 100 MB iPhone app vs the N1's ~200 MB limit on total app storage isn't quite accurate.  For now, the N1 should have more than enough storage for most users, and medium-term the problem will go away when the next release supports apps on the SD card.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Generally , an Android app that needs lots of data like this ( maps , images , etc ) would download the data onto the SD card .
So comparing a 100 MB iPhone app vs the N1 's ~ 200 MB limit on total app storage is n't quite accurate .
For now , the N1 should have more than enough storage for most users , and medium-term the problem will go away when the next release supports apps on the SD card .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Generally, an Android app that needs lots of data like this (maps, images, etc) would download the data onto the SD card.
So comparing a 100 MB iPhone app vs the N1's ~200 MB limit on total app storage isn't quite accurate.
For now, the N1 should have more than enough storage for most users, and medium-term the problem will go away when the next release supports apps on the SD card.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663140</id>
	<title>Re:Ogg support - sweet</title>
	<author>michael1221988</author>
	<datestamp>1262697360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, all phones support Ogg.  I have a g1 and it works fine.  I believe it has been supported the entire time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , all phones support Ogg .
I have a g1 and it works fine .
I believe it has been supported the entire time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, all phones support Ogg.
I have a g1 and it works fine.
I believe it has been supported the entire time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660730</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>yincrash</author>
	<datestamp>1262686440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Android apps can and do use the SD card to store resources such graphics. Basically, you buy/download the app from the app store, then first run of the app downloads all the graphical resources that would take up the bulk of the space and store them in the SD card. However, since there is an upgrade soon to allow apps on the SD card, the point is moot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Android apps can and do use the SD card to store resources such graphics .
Basically , you buy/download the app from the app store , then first run of the app downloads all the graphical resources that would take up the bulk of the space and store them in the SD card .
However , since there is an upgrade soon to allow apps on the SD card , the point is moot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Android apps can and do use the SD card to store resources such graphics.
Basically, you buy/download the app from the app store, then first run of the app downloads all the graphical resources that would take up the bulk of the space and store them in the SD card.
However, since there is an upgrade soon to allow apps on the SD card, the point is moot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661286</id>
	<title>Oblig</title>
	<author>fiannaFailMan</author>
	<datestamp>1262688780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No wireless .
Less space than a Nomad .
Lame .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No wireless.
Less space than a Nomad.
Lame.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30668196</id>
	<title>Blocking adverts on the (full) mobile internet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262785260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm just curious, but is there an app available to block adverts yet? Since most of the latest mobiles are boasting the ability to browse the full internet, and data transfer on phones is not only slower than on desktops, but FAR more costly, blocking adverts would be a big win for users. I absolutely refuse to pay to download adverts at mobile internet rates and speeds, but as far as I am aware, blocking specific addresses to stop ads downloading is not possible on an un-jailbroken iPhone. Google's main source of revenue is ads, so it's doubtful they would want users blocking ads either, but an ad-blocking app seems fairly legitimate and safe; Google would have no reason to disallow such software from being made available on the app store other than obvious commercial interests.</p><p>Not really related, but I thought I'd mention this anyway, the iPhone limits what you can use as ringtones. The damn thing is designed to store a music library, but you are restricted from using files from this library for your ringtone. Is a song playing when a phone rings classed as a public performance and subject to different licensing? Note that I did just find a way to make one's own ringtone after a quick search, but it doesn't seem like it's something that anybody wants you do be doing. http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-use-itunes-to-create-a-ringtone-for-your-iphone/ Other phones I have used have also made custom ringtones difficult or impossible to install, despite allowing me the ability to copy music files onto them. It's this kind of deliberate limiting of functionality, not because the functionality would be difficult to add, be bad for consumers, or be dangerous; but simply because it would eat into someone's bottom line. I don't know why, perhaps because of Google's "Don't be evil" slogan, I get the impression that they won't limit the software by placing limitations on it like this, but I'd love to know if there is anything that should be possible, but isn't.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm just curious , but is there an app available to block adverts yet ?
Since most of the latest mobiles are boasting the ability to browse the full internet , and data transfer on phones is not only slower than on desktops , but FAR more costly , blocking adverts would be a big win for users .
I absolutely refuse to pay to download adverts at mobile internet rates and speeds , but as far as I am aware , blocking specific addresses to stop ads downloading is not possible on an un-jailbroken iPhone .
Google 's main source of revenue is ads , so it 's doubtful they would want users blocking ads either , but an ad-blocking app seems fairly legitimate and safe ; Google would have no reason to disallow such software from being made available on the app store other than obvious commercial interests.Not really related , but I thought I 'd mention this anyway , the iPhone limits what you can use as ringtones .
The damn thing is designed to store a music library , but you are restricted from using files from this library for your ringtone .
Is a song playing when a phone rings classed as a public performance and subject to different licensing ?
Note that I did just find a way to make one 's own ringtone after a quick search , but it does n't seem like it 's something that anybody wants you do be doing .
http : //chris.pirillo.com/how-to-use-itunes-to-create-a-ringtone-for-your-iphone/ Other phones I have used have also made custom ringtones difficult or impossible to install , despite allowing me the ability to copy music files onto them .
It 's this kind of deliberate limiting of functionality , not because the functionality would be difficult to add , be bad for consumers , or be dangerous ; but simply because it would eat into someone 's bottom line .
I do n't know why , perhaps because of Google 's " Do n't be evil " slogan , I get the impression that they wo n't limit the software by placing limitations on it like this , but I 'd love to know if there is anything that should be possible , but is n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm just curious, but is there an app available to block adverts yet?
Since most of the latest mobiles are boasting the ability to browse the full internet, and data transfer on phones is not only slower than on desktops, but FAR more costly, blocking adverts would be a big win for users.
I absolutely refuse to pay to download adverts at mobile internet rates and speeds, but as far as I am aware, blocking specific addresses to stop ads downloading is not possible on an un-jailbroken iPhone.
Google's main source of revenue is ads, so it's doubtful they would want users blocking ads either, but an ad-blocking app seems fairly legitimate and safe; Google would have no reason to disallow such software from being made available on the app store other than obvious commercial interests.Not really related, but I thought I'd mention this anyway, the iPhone limits what you can use as ringtones.
The damn thing is designed to store a music library, but you are restricted from using files from this library for your ringtone.
Is a song playing when a phone rings classed as a public performance and subject to different licensing?
Note that I did just find a way to make one's own ringtone after a quick search, but it doesn't seem like it's something that anybody wants you do be doing.
http://chris.pirillo.com/how-to-use-itunes-to-create-a-ringtone-for-your-iphone/ Other phones I have used have also made custom ringtones difficult or impossible to install, despite allowing me the ability to copy music files onto them.
It's this kind of deliberate limiting of functionality, not because the functionality would be difficult to add, be bad for consumers, or be dangerous; but simply because it would eat into someone's bottom line.
I don't know why, perhaps because of Google's "Don't be evil" slogan, I get the impression that they won't limit the software by placing limitations on it like this, but I'd love to know if there is anything that should be possible, but isn't.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662538</id>
	<title>Re:Only $529!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262694480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually T-mobile DOES offer a reduced price if you bring your own phone. They're the only ones who do in the US tho...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually T-mobile DOES offer a reduced price if you bring your own phone .
They 're the only ones who do in the US tho.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually T-mobile DOES offer a reduced price if you bring your own phone.
They're the only ones who do in the US tho...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660740</id>
	<title>Ogg support - sweet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262686500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I noticed on the <a href="http://www.google.com/phone/static/en\_US-nexusone\_tech\_specs.html" title="google.com">tech specs</a> [google.com] page that Nexus One supports Ogg Vorbis audio. Do other Android phones support Ogg Vorbis playback? I mean, it would seem like that would be a feature of the base Android platform, but IIRC, when the G1 launched, Ogg support wasn't included? I know - it's been over a year since the G1 launched, and a lot has changed in newer versions of Android. Still, have any of the other *currently released* Android phones come with Ogg decoder?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I noticed on the tech specs [ google.com ] page that Nexus One supports Ogg Vorbis audio .
Do other Android phones support Ogg Vorbis playback ?
I mean , it would seem like that would be a feature of the base Android platform , but IIRC , when the G1 launched , Ogg support was n't included ?
I know - it 's been over a year since the G1 launched , and a lot has changed in newer versions of Android .
Still , have any of the other * currently released * Android phones come with Ogg decoder ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I noticed on the tech specs [google.com] page that Nexus One supports Ogg Vorbis audio.
Do other Android phones support Ogg Vorbis playback?
I mean, it would seem like that would be a feature of the base Android platform, but IIRC, when the G1 launched, Ogg support wasn't included?
I know - it's been over a year since the G1 launched, and a lot has changed in newer versions of Android.
Still, have any of the other *currently released* Android phones come with Ogg decoder?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660750</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>tot</author>
	<datestamp>1262686500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>CoPilot for example stores maps and voices to the SD card.  The application itself is not big.</htmltext>
<tokenext>CoPilot for example stores maps and voices to the SD card .
The application itself is not big .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CoPilot for example stores maps and voices to the SD card.
The application itself is not big.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661676</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>oneiron</author>
	<datestamp>1262690400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lucky for you, Mossberg is dead wrong about the 'only 190mb for apps' piece of info.  Only the minimal binary requirements are restricted to the apk that must be stored in the 190mb of space.  Other app resources like images, videos, music, what have you....  All of those can be stored outside the 190mb.  Pure FUD.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lucky for you , Mossberg is dead wrong about the 'only 190mb for apps ' piece of info .
Only the minimal binary requirements are restricted to the apk that must be stored in the 190mb of space .
Other app resources like images , videos , music , what have you.... All of those can be stored outside the 190mb .
Pure FUD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lucky for you, Mossberg is dead wrong about the 'only 190mb for apps' piece of info.
Only the minimal binary requirements are restricted to the apk that must be stored in the 190mb of space.
Other app resources like images, videos, music, what have you....  All of those can be stored outside the 190mb.
Pure FUD.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659908</id>
	<title>world phone coming soon?</title>
	<author>Vanden</author>
	<datestamp>1262683620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I noticed in the Q&amp;A that they will be working on a world phone Android model in the near future (both GSM/CDMA).  This will be a great feature for people who travel internationally, or to be able to switch networks at home.</p><p>For this current model, I think the voice feature will be the most significant: every text field is voice enabled, making the touchscreen-only keyboard a bit less painful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I noticed in the Q&amp;A that they will be working on a world phone Android model in the near future ( both GSM/CDMA ) .
This will be a great feature for people who travel internationally , or to be able to switch networks at home.For this current model , I think the voice feature will be the most significant : every text field is voice enabled , making the touchscreen-only keyboard a bit less painful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I noticed in the Q&amp;A that they will be working on a world phone Android model in the near future (both GSM/CDMA).
This will be a great feature for people who travel internationally, or to be able to switch networks at home.For this current model, I think the voice feature will be the most significant: every text field is voice enabled, making the touchscreen-only keyboard a bit less painful.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662918</id>
	<title>Re:I was hoping for a new business model</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262696220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No one is mentioning that when you buy a phone without a contract from T-mobile they will finance the phone (interest free) for 20 months if you're on a non-contract plan.</p><p>I have no contract lock in with t-mobile and only have 12 more months of payments to pay off my phone.  I can leave anytime I want and just pay the remainder of what I owe on the phone, which I would've had to pay anyway if I purchased it outright.</p><p>I think t-mobile has a greater impact on breaking carrier lock in that the Nexus does.  I hope that together they can change the industry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No one is mentioning that when you buy a phone without a contract from T-mobile they will finance the phone ( interest free ) for 20 months if you 're on a non-contract plan.I have no contract lock in with t-mobile and only have 12 more months of payments to pay off my phone .
I can leave anytime I want and just pay the remainder of what I owe on the phone , which I would 've had to pay anyway if I purchased it outright.I think t-mobile has a greater impact on breaking carrier lock in that the Nexus does .
I hope that together they can change the industry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No one is mentioning that when you buy a phone without a contract from T-mobile they will finance the phone (interest free) for 20 months if you're on a non-contract plan.I have no contract lock in with t-mobile and only have 12 more months of payments to pay off my phone.
I can leave anytime I want and just pay the remainder of what I owe on the phone, which I would've had to pay anyway if I purchased it outright.I think t-mobile has a greater impact on breaking carrier lock in that the Nexus does.
I hope that together they can change the industry.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30664856</id>
	<title>Re:I was looking forward to this device far more..</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1262707440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Also it's Edge only on AT&amp;T, so not truly carrier agnostic.</p></div></blockquote><p>

This is a failure of US carriers to create a common frequency and the failure of the US govt to ensure one was created.
Don't blame this on the phone.<br> <br>

In other nations where the 2100 MHz network is accepted as standard (meaning every carrier runs a 2100 MHz network) this is not an issue, seeing as 2100 MHz is the worlds most popular 3G frequency why should the manufacturers put in obscure frequencies used by one carrier in one nation (AT&amp;T's 1900 and 1700 MHz networks).</p></div>
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<tokenext>Also it 's Edge only on AT&amp;T , so not truly carrier agnostic .
This is a failure of US carriers to create a common frequency and the failure of the US govt to ensure one was created .
Do n't blame this on the phone .
In other nations where the 2100 MHz network is accepted as standard ( meaning every carrier runs a 2100 MHz network ) this is not an issue , seeing as 2100 MHz is the worlds most popular 3G frequency why should the manufacturers put in obscure frequencies used by one carrier in one nation ( AT&amp;T 's 1900 and 1700 MHz networks ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also it's Edge only on AT&amp;T, so not truly carrier agnostic.
This is a failure of US carriers to create a common frequency and the failure of the US govt to ensure one was created.
Don't blame this on the phone.
In other nations where the 2100 MHz network is accepted as standard (meaning every carrier runs a 2100 MHz network) this is not an issue, seeing as 2100 MHz is the worlds most popular 3G frequency why should the manufacturers put in obscure frequencies used by one carrier in one nation (AT&amp;T's 1900 and 1700 MHz networks).
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30687496</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>alexo</author>
	<datestamp>1262858640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p># thinner and lighter than iphone 3g/s<br># 3.7" 400x800 AMOLED display<br># 5MP, LED flash camera<br># video at 720x480<br># 3.5mm headphone adapter (first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design)<br># proximity sensor<br># light sensor</p></div></blockquote><p>Can I have that with a Snapdragon CPU and a <b>keyboard</b>?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext># thinner and lighter than iphone 3g/s # 3.7 " 400x800 AMOLED display # 5MP , LED flash camera # video at 720x480 # 3.5mm headphone adapter ( first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design ) # proximity sensor # light sensorCan I have that with a Snapdragon CPU and a keyboard ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext># thinner and lighter than iphone 3g/s# 3.7" 400x800 AMOLED display# 5MP, LED flash camera# video at 720x480# 3.5mm headphone adapter (first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design)# proximity sensor# light sensorCan I have that with a Snapdragon CPU and a keyboard?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660350</id>
	<title>In Soviet Russia, phone owns you...</title>
	<author>chogori</author>
	<datestamp>1262685060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's up with these arbitrary phone OS limitations? I would've hoped that at least Google would've gotten it right, but alas.<br> <br>
I hate to say this, but between my iPhone and my WinMo, I think I like my WinMo phone the best.<br> Don't get me wrong, it sucks. The UI is terrible. And it crashes. A lot.<br>
<br>
However:<p>- Want to thether for free even though your carrier wants you to pay extra? There's a WinMo app for that.</p><p>- Want to thether for free via your phone as a Wi-Fi hotspot so that everyone in your carpool can access the interenet at once? There's a WinMo app for that, too.</p><p>- Hell, I can even run two programs at once and mount my phone as a disk drive and fill it up with whatever I damn well please.<br> <br>
Seems like pretty basic/essential functionality to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's up with these arbitrary phone OS limitations ?
I would 've hoped that at least Google would 've gotten it right , but alas .
I hate to say this , but between my iPhone and my WinMo , I think I like my WinMo phone the best .
Do n't get me wrong , it sucks .
The UI is terrible .
And it crashes .
A lot .
However : - Want to thether for free even though your carrier wants you to pay extra ?
There 's a WinMo app for that.- Want to thether for free via your phone as a Wi-Fi hotspot so that everyone in your carpool can access the interenet at once ?
There 's a WinMo app for that , too.- Hell , I can even run two programs at once and mount my phone as a disk drive and fill it up with whatever I damn well please .
Seems like pretty basic/essential functionality to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's up with these arbitrary phone OS limitations?
I would've hoped that at least Google would've gotten it right, but alas.
I hate to say this, but between my iPhone and my WinMo, I think I like my WinMo phone the best.
Don't get me wrong, it sucks.
The UI is terrible.
And it crashes.
A lot.
However:- Want to thether for free even though your carrier wants you to pay extra?
There's a WinMo app for that.- Want to thether for free via your phone as a Wi-Fi hotspot so that everyone in your carpool can access the interenet at once?
There's a WinMo app for that, too.- Hell, I can even run two programs at once and mount my phone as a disk drive and fill it up with whatever I damn well please.
Seems like pretty basic/essential functionality to me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663700</id>
	<title>Re:Choice, what a joke</title>
	<author>flooey</author>
	<datestamp>1262699940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Anyway the holy grail of choice would be a phone that is $500 or less that support CDMA and GSM on Verizon/T-Mobile/ATT/Sprint..</p></div><p>From what I've heard, this is basically impossible (so far) due to antenna and radio design problems.  At least on the GSM side, you can apparently support either AT&amp;T 3G or T-Mobile 3G, but both doesn't fly.  (There's money to be made for a handset maker who did so, if only from not having to manufacture multiple SKUs for different networks, so it's not a lack of trying.  The BB Storm is close, but still doesn't support all 3G frequencies in the US.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyway the holy grail of choice would be a phone that is $ 500 or less that support CDMA and GSM on Verizon/T-Mobile/ATT/Sprint..From what I 've heard , this is basically impossible ( so far ) due to antenna and radio design problems .
At least on the GSM side , you can apparently support either AT&amp;T 3G or T-Mobile 3G , but both does n't fly .
( There 's money to be made for a handset maker who did so , if only from not having to manufacture multiple SKUs for different networks , so it 's not a lack of trying .
The BB Storm is close , but still does n't support all 3G frequencies in the US .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyway the holy grail of choice would be a phone that is $500 or less that support CDMA and GSM on Verizon/T-Mobile/ATT/Sprint..From what I've heard, this is basically impossible (so far) due to antenna and radio design problems.
At least on the GSM side, you can apparently support either AT&amp;T 3G or T-Mobile 3G, but both doesn't fly.
(There's money to be made for a handset maker who did so, if only from not having to manufacture multiple SKUs for different networks, so it's not a lack of trying.
The BB Storm is close, but still doesn't support all 3G frequencies in the US.
)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660522</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262685600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>the OLED display is simply amazing, and the voice entry is surprisingly useful for composing text messages and etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>the OLED display is simply amazing , and the voice entry is surprisingly useful for composing text messages and etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the OLED display is simply amazing, and the voice entry is surprisingly useful for composing text messages and etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661582</id>
	<title>Wait for it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262689800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At Macworld, Apple will announce their "Bladerunner" line of wireless devices.</p><p>Too obvious?</p><p>Apple and Google are pushing HTML5 apps.  Apple has always wanted apps to be HTML based and had to release their internal app API because HTML5 lagged.  Google used webkit for the relatively free ride, because it makes perfect near and long-term sense.</p><p>Once that shift picks up momentum, it'll be a more entertaining game, since apps will be cross platform.  And then, 10 years late, the 21st century will finally friggin' arrive.</p><p>Apple is pushing that direction hard, by making the native app approval process like being raped while getting a root canal without anesthetic.</p><p>Is there a limit on how much memory an HTML5 based webkit run app can consume?  I'd bet not.  And is their a limit on how much local caching a webkit app can use?  I suspect the limited app space is to make room for webapps *and* encourage webapps.</p><p>Someone needs to setup a good webapp based storefront for webapps.  Or maybe make a search engine that will bring you a list of readily usable webapps just by talking into a phone.  I wonder who could possibly do that...?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At Macworld , Apple will announce their " Bladerunner " line of wireless devices.Too obvious ? Apple and Google are pushing HTML5 apps .
Apple has always wanted apps to be HTML based and had to release their internal app API because HTML5 lagged .
Google used webkit for the relatively free ride , because it makes perfect near and long-term sense.Once that shift picks up momentum , it 'll be a more entertaining game , since apps will be cross platform .
And then , 10 years late , the 21st century will finally friggin ' arrive.Apple is pushing that direction hard , by making the native app approval process like being raped while getting a root canal without anesthetic.Is there a limit on how much memory an HTML5 based webkit run app can consume ?
I 'd bet not .
And is their a limit on how much local caching a webkit app can use ?
I suspect the limited app space is to make room for webapps * and * encourage webapps.Someone needs to setup a good webapp based storefront for webapps .
Or maybe make a search engine that will bring you a list of readily usable webapps just by talking into a phone .
I wonder who could possibly do that... ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At Macworld, Apple will announce their "Bladerunner" line of wireless devices.Too obvious?Apple and Google are pushing HTML5 apps.
Apple has always wanted apps to be HTML based and had to release their internal app API because HTML5 lagged.
Google used webkit for the relatively free ride, because it makes perfect near and long-term sense.Once that shift picks up momentum, it'll be a more entertaining game, since apps will be cross platform.
And then, 10 years late, the 21st century will finally friggin' arrive.Apple is pushing that direction hard, by making the native app approval process like being raped while getting a root canal without anesthetic.Is there a limit on how much memory an HTML5 based webkit run app can consume?
I'd bet not.
And is their a limit on how much local caching a webkit app can use?
I suspect the limited app space is to make room for webapps *and* encourage webapps.Someone needs to setup a good webapp based storefront for webapps.
Or maybe make a search engine that will bring you a list of readily usable webapps just by talking into a phone.
I wonder who could possibly do that...?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662638</id>
	<title>Re:In Soviet Russia, phone owns you...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262695020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Android devices can also do all of the above, though you need root for #2.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Android devices can also do all of the above , though you need root for # 2 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Android devices can also do all of the above, though you need root for #2.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30665896</id>
	<title>Re:In Soviet Russia, phone owns you...</title>
	<author>MrCrassic</author>
	<datestamp>1262715780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>- Want to thether for free even though your carrier wants you to pay extra? There's a WinMo app for that.</p></div><p>iPhone OS has supported Internet Tethering since 3.0, and is pretty easy to set up regardless of how your plan is provisioned.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>- Want to thether for free via your phone as a Wi-Fi hotspot so that everyone in your carpool can access the interenet at once? There's a WinMo app for that, too.</p></div><p>PdaNet for the iPhone does this. (Jailbreak required.)</p><p><div class="quote"><p>- Hell, I can even run two programs at once and mount my phone as a disk drive and fill it up with whatever I damn well please.</p></div><p>If you're hell-bent on running multiple applications, iPhone can do this as well with Backgrounder. However, it will crash and slog through everything, while eating even more battery life, just like Windows Mobile does.</p><p>Finally, the iPhone can store whatever you want via SSH. Certain programs even let you mount SFTP connections as drives to make transfers easier.</p><p>I thought the same way you did, and kept my HTC Touch Pro around after I got my iPhone for these purposes. However, as I found my iPhone doing more and more of what I designated the Touch Pro to do, I finally decided it was time to get rid of it. Traded it in for 2GB DDR2 RAM and an external drive, which has been infinitely more useful than that phone has been.</p></div>
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<tokenext>- Want to thether for free even though your carrier wants you to pay extra ?
There 's a WinMo app for that.iPhone OS has supported Internet Tethering since 3.0 , and is pretty easy to set up regardless of how your plan is provisioned.- Want to thether for free via your phone as a Wi-Fi hotspot so that everyone in your carpool can access the interenet at once ?
There 's a WinMo app for that , too.PdaNet for the iPhone does this .
( Jailbreak required .
) - Hell , I can even run two programs at once and mount my phone as a disk drive and fill it up with whatever I damn well please.If you 're hell-bent on running multiple applications , iPhone can do this as well with Backgrounder .
However , it will crash and slog through everything , while eating even more battery life , just like Windows Mobile does.Finally , the iPhone can store whatever you want via SSH .
Certain programs even let you mount SFTP connections as drives to make transfers easier.I thought the same way you did , and kept my HTC Touch Pro around after I got my iPhone for these purposes .
However , as I found my iPhone doing more and more of what I designated the Touch Pro to do , I finally decided it was time to get rid of it .
Traded it in for 2GB DDR2 RAM and an external drive , which has been infinitely more useful than that phone has been .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>- Want to thether for free even though your carrier wants you to pay extra?
There's a WinMo app for that.iPhone OS has supported Internet Tethering since 3.0, and is pretty easy to set up regardless of how your plan is provisioned.- Want to thether for free via your phone as a Wi-Fi hotspot so that everyone in your carpool can access the interenet at once?
There's a WinMo app for that, too.PdaNet for the iPhone does this.
(Jailbreak required.
)- Hell, I can even run two programs at once and mount my phone as a disk drive and fill it up with whatever I damn well please.If you're hell-bent on running multiple applications, iPhone can do this as well with Backgrounder.
However, it will crash and slog through everything, while eating even more battery life, just like Windows Mobile does.Finally, the iPhone can store whatever you want via SSH.
Certain programs even let you mount SFTP connections as drives to make transfers easier.I thought the same way you did, and kept my HTC Touch Pro around after I got my iPhone for these purposes.
However, as I found my iPhone doing more and more of what I designated the Touch Pro to do, I finally decided it was time to get rid of it.
Traded it in for 2GB DDR2 RAM and an external drive, which has been infinitely more useful than that phone has been.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662136</id>
	<title>Re:I was hoping for a new business model</title>
	<author>Pope Reinhardt I</author>
	<datestamp>1262692500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We need to commoditize wireless bandwidth.  We want a universe in which we buy our phones directly, we own them, and we can choose which networks to plug them into.  And if a network is bad, we have to be free to walk.</p></div><p>Good news, this universe you want already exists. It's called 'Europe". Welcome!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We need to commoditize wireless bandwidth .
We want a universe in which we buy our phones directly , we own them , and we can choose which networks to plug them into .
And if a network is bad , we have to be free to walk.Good news , this universe you want already exists .
It 's called 'Europe " .
Welcome !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We need to commoditize wireless bandwidth.
We want a universe in which we buy our phones directly, we own them, and we can choose which networks to plug them into.
And if a network is bad, we have to be free to walk.Good news, this universe you want already exists.
It's called 'Europe".
Welcome!
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660386</id>
	<title>Re:UMTS crippled on purpose? will not work on ATT</title>
	<author>farble1670</author>
	<datestamp>1262685180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <em>according to the nexus one specs, the UMTS Band (2100/AWS/900) will not support ATT network 3G but does work on T-Mobiles 3G network. T-Mobile 3G and voice coverage is one of worst in US.</em> </p><p>as far as i know, no smartphone covers both AT&amp;T and T-Mo's 3g network. no existing android phone does, and the iphone doesn't. blackberry sells two different hardware versions of it's phone models, one to cover each band.</p><p>it's not some insidious plan, it's the economics of supporting two different 3g networks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>according to the nexus one specs , the UMTS Band ( 2100/AWS/900 ) will not support ATT network 3G but does work on T-Mobiles 3G network .
T-Mobile 3G and voice coverage is one of worst in US .
as far as i know , no smartphone covers both AT&amp;T and T-Mo 's 3g network .
no existing android phone does , and the iphone does n't .
blackberry sells two different hardware versions of it 's phone models , one to cover each band.it 's not some insidious plan , it 's the economics of supporting two different 3g networks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> according to the nexus one specs, the UMTS Band (2100/AWS/900) will not support ATT network 3G but does work on T-Mobiles 3G network.
T-Mobile 3G and voice coverage is one of worst in US.
as far as i know, no smartphone covers both AT&amp;T and T-Mo's 3g network.
no existing android phone does, and the iphone doesn't.
blackberry sells two different hardware versions of it's phone models, one to cover each band.it's not some insidious plan, it's the economics of supporting two different 3g networks.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30664930</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>Rennt</author>
	<datestamp>1262707920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dude, it has an SDcard for up to 32GB additional storage (+1 Android there), there are apps and/or modified firmware available to store apps on the SDcard. This is only a stock limitation, and the only reason it exists is the SDcard needs to be partitioned/formatted which would be non-transparent to the user.</p><p>Short answer: Not an issue.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , it has an SDcard for up to 32GB additional storage ( + 1 Android there ) , there are apps and/or modified firmware available to store apps on the SDcard .
This is only a stock limitation , and the only reason it exists is the SDcard needs to be partitioned/formatted which would be non-transparent to the user.Short answer : Not an issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, it has an SDcard for up to 32GB additional storage (+1 Android there), there are apps and/or modified firmware available to store apps on the SDcard.
This is only a stock limitation, and the only reason it exists is the SDcard needs to be partitioned/formatted which would be non-transparent to the user.Short answer: Not an issue.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659832</id>
	<title>But Cellular Service is evil</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262683380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Me Thinks</htmltext>
<tokenext>Me Thinks</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Me Thinks</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661510</id>
	<title>Phone hardware is not interesting news</title>
	<author>IronChef</author>
	<datestamp>1262689560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Phones are little computers, and there will always be a faster model with more features.</p><p>Big deal. It's about as interesting as video card wars.</p><p>Real news would be new service plans, increased competition in the wireless business, or legislation that changes the shape of my relationship with the phone company.</p><p>But I guess we take what we can get.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Phones are little computers , and there will always be a faster model with more features.Big deal .
It 's about as interesting as video card wars.Real news would be new service plans , increased competition in the wireless business , or legislation that changes the shape of my relationship with the phone company.But I guess we take what we can get .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Phones are little computers, and there will always be a faster model with more features.Big deal.
It's about as interesting as video card wars.Real news would be new service plans, increased competition in the wireless business, or legislation that changes the shape of my relationship with the phone company.But I guess we take what we can get.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659900</id>
	<title>Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262683620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mod me as troll if you want, but its not surprising that Mossberg rushes to defend an Apple product in the face of a new competitor.  He also neglects to point out in his comparison that the 16 GB of storage on the iPhone is typically filled with music, leaving much less than that for applications.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mod me as troll if you want , but its not surprising that Mossberg rushes to defend an Apple product in the face of a new competitor .
He also neglects to point out in his comparison that the 16 GB of storage on the iPhone is typically filled with music , leaving much less than that for applications .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mod me as troll if you want, but its not surprising that Mossberg rushes to defend an Apple product in the face of a new competitor.
He also neglects to point out in his comparison that the 16 GB of storage on the iPhone is typically filled with music, leaving much less than that for applications.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659994</id>
	<title>No Multitouch</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262683980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Like other Android phones, there is no multitouch implemented in the touchscreen interface.</p><p>For those who use their smartphones for gaming, this really limits the ability of the phone of as a gaming platform (with respect to touchscreen controls).  Gaming on the iPhone has really been taking off, although I still think hardware buttons work best for fast-paced and twitch gaming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Like other Android phones , there is no multitouch implemented in the touchscreen interface.For those who use their smartphones for gaming , this really limits the ability of the phone of as a gaming platform ( with respect to touchscreen controls ) .
Gaming on the iPhone has really been taking off , although I still think hardware buttons work best for fast-paced and twitch gaming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like other Android phones, there is no multitouch implemented in the touchscreen interface.For those who use their smartphones for gaming, this really limits the ability of the phone of as a gaming platform (with respect to touchscreen controls).
Gaming on the iPhone has really been taking off, although I still think hardware buttons work best for fast-paced and twitch gaming.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661592</id>
	<title>No tethering...</title>
	<author>burlysquid</author>
	<datestamp>1262689920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From an interview w/ Google:

<a href="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/185944/what\_the\_nexus\_one\_isnt.html" title="pcworld.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/185944/what\_the\_nexus\_one\_isnt.html</a> [pcworld.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>From an interview w/ Google : http : //www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/185944/what \ _the \ _nexus \ _one \ _isnt.html [ pcworld.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From an interview w/ Google:

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/185944/what\_the\_nexus\_one\_isnt.html [pcworld.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660132</id>
	<title>Vodaphone</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262684400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, it's voda<b>f</b>one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , it 's vodafone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, it's vodafone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661418</id>
	<title>Re:Only $529!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262689260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <em>Its not like you get a reduced monthly price if you bring your own phone.</em> </p><p>you do on t-mobile, albeit not as large as you might expect.</p><p>the whole subsidized phone paradigm has more to do with limiting competition among carriers. as it stands, carriers compete on the new cool phones they have this week. once they get you on the shiny new phone, you are stuck with them and they don't have to compete on the things that really matter like service, customer service, lack of restrictions, etc. much cheaper for them. the best example of this is the iphone. just look at all the people paying their $80+ per month bill for terrible service because they just have to own an iphone.</p><p>whether consciously or not, google is potentially breaking this scheme by offering a desirable higher-end smartphone, unlocked. personally, after being bound to AT&amp;T's crappy service for almost 2 years now i will never buy a subsidized phone again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its not like you get a reduced monthly price if you bring your own phone .
you do on t-mobile , albeit not as large as you might expect.the whole subsidized phone paradigm has more to do with limiting competition among carriers .
as it stands , carriers compete on the new cool phones they have this week .
once they get you on the shiny new phone , you are stuck with them and they do n't have to compete on the things that really matter like service , customer service , lack of restrictions , etc .
much cheaper for them .
the best example of this is the iphone .
just look at all the people paying their $ 80 + per month bill for terrible service because they just have to own an iphone.whether consciously or not , google is potentially breaking this scheme by offering a desirable higher-end smartphone , unlocked .
personally , after being bound to AT&amp;T 's crappy service for almost 2 years now i will never buy a subsidized phone again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Its not like you get a reduced monthly price if you bring your own phone.
you do on t-mobile, albeit not as large as you might expect.the whole subsidized phone paradigm has more to do with limiting competition among carriers.
as it stands, carriers compete on the new cool phones they have this week.
once they get you on the shiny new phone, you are stuck with them and they don't have to compete on the things that really matter like service, customer service, lack of restrictions, etc.
much cheaper for them.
the best example of this is the iphone.
just look at all the people paying their $80+ per month bill for terrible service because they just have to own an iphone.whether consciously or not, google is potentially breaking this scheme by offering a desirable higher-end smartphone, unlocked.
personally, after being bound to AT&amp;T's crappy service for almost 2 years now i will never buy a subsidized phone again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660460</id>
	<title>Ahemm, Vodafone, right?!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262685420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nitpickers Unite!</p><p>The name of the company is in actual fact <i>Voda<b>f</b>one</i> and not Voda<b>ph</b>one!</p><p>Now my only hope is that I have not made any embarrassing spelling mistakes myself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nitpickers Unite ! The name of the company is in actual fact Vodafone and not Vodaphone ! Now my only hope is that I have not made any embarrassing spelling mistakes myself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nitpickers Unite!The name of the company is in actual fact Vodafone and not Vodaphone!Now my only hope is that I have not made any embarrassing spelling mistakes myself.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30664216</id>
	<title>Re:Ogg support - sweet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262703300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Both my motorola milestone (GSM Droid, Android 2.0) and my G1 (Android 1.6) support<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.ogg.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Both my motorola milestone ( GSM Droid , Android 2.0 ) and my G1 ( Android 1.6 ) support .ogg .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Both my motorola milestone (GSM Droid, Android 2.0) and my G1 (Android 1.6) support .ogg.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660078</id>
	<title>UMTS crippled on purpose? will not work on ATT 3G</title>
	<author>deadmongrel</author>
	<datestamp>1262684220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>according to the nexus one specs, the UMTS Band  (2100/AWS/900) will not support ATT network 3G but does work on T-Mobiles 3G network. T-Mobile 3G and voice coverage is one of worst in US.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>according to the nexus one specs , the UMTS Band ( 2100/AWS/900 ) will not support ATT network 3G but does work on T-Mobiles 3G network .
T-Mobile 3G and voice coverage is one of worst in US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>according to the nexus one specs, the UMTS Band  (2100/AWS/900) will not support ATT network 3G but does work on T-Mobiles 3G network.
T-Mobile 3G and voice coverage is one of worst in US.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663810</id>
	<title>It's not Apple's fault</title>
	<author>Prien715</author>
	<datestamp>1262700540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Go jailbreak your iphone if tethering/multiapp is such a deal breaker.  You get stability + good UI + tethering + multi-app...and you can buy DRM-free music from the device itself.  Best of all worlds.</p><p>It goes to show that the limitations are not with the iPhone itself but with the megalomania of AT&amp;T (you can tether on European carriers) and Apple (multi-app could be a drain on battery life, so put it under options-&gt;advanced or something).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Go jailbreak your iphone if tethering/multiapp is such a deal breaker .
You get stability + good UI + tethering + multi-app...and you can buy DRM-free music from the device itself .
Best of all worlds.It goes to show that the limitations are not with the iPhone itself but with the megalomania of AT&amp;T ( you can tether on European carriers ) and Apple ( multi-app could be a drain on battery life , so put it under options- &gt; advanced or something ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go jailbreak your iphone if tethering/multiapp is such a deal breaker.
You get stability + good UI + tethering + multi-app...and you can buy DRM-free music from the device itself.
Best of all worlds.It goes to show that the limitations are not with the iPhone itself but with the megalomania of AT&amp;T (you can tether on European carriers) and Apple (multi-app could be a drain on battery life, so put it under options-&gt;advanced or something).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660724</id>
	<title>Re:Only $529!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262686380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Its not like you get a reduced monthly price if you bring your own phone.</p></div><p>Actually...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its not like you get a reduced monthly price if you bring your own phone.Actually.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Its not like you get a reduced monthly price if you bring your own phone.Actually...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660158</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660050</id>
	<title>190 MB for Apps?</title>
	<author>Totenglocke</author>
	<datestamp>1262684100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well damn, I was thinking this phone would be great, but only 190 MB for apps?  That's extremely limiting.  Since it has a MicroSD slot, why not let the users decide how much space they want to use for apps and how much they want to use for files?</p><p>Maybe someone can find a way to mod the OS to get around this limitation....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well damn , I was thinking this phone would be great , but only 190 MB for apps ?
That 's extremely limiting .
Since it has a MicroSD slot , why not let the users decide how much space they want to use for apps and how much they want to use for files ? Maybe someone can find a way to mod the OS to get around this limitation... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well damn, I was thinking this phone would be great, but only 190 MB for apps?
That's extremely limiting.
Since it has a MicroSD slot, why not let the users decide how much space they want to use for apps and how much they want to use for files?Maybe someone can find a way to mod the OS to get around this limitation....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30665640</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>ScrewMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1262712840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The point is for you to use Google Voice and have only a voice plan as a backup.</p></div><p>That only worked on T-Mo if you had MyFaves. You would put your assigned Google Voice number and the outgoing number that GV calls when you dial through it into MyFaves. Then your calls would be free. Against your TOS, though, and I believe that T-Mobile has since gotten rid of the MyFaves option. Not sure about that. I still have MyFaves on my contract (it runs out in about 18 months) so until then I'll enjoy free calling. Although, oddly enough, while I only have the 300 minutes/month voice plan, I've never gone over since I started using my G1. Between Google Voice voice mail transcripts and IMAP email, I don't actually make or take that many calls anymore.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The point is for you to use Google Voice and have only a voice plan as a backup.That only worked on T-Mo if you had MyFaves .
You would put your assigned Google Voice number and the outgoing number that GV calls when you dial through it into MyFaves .
Then your calls would be free .
Against your TOS , though , and I believe that T-Mobile has since gotten rid of the MyFaves option .
Not sure about that .
I still have MyFaves on my contract ( it runs out in about 18 months ) so until then I 'll enjoy free calling .
Although , oddly enough , while I only have the 300 minutes/month voice plan , I 've never gone over since I started using my G1 .
Between Google Voice voice mail transcripts and IMAP email , I do n't actually make or take that many calls anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The point is for you to use Google Voice and have only a voice plan as a backup.That only worked on T-Mo if you had MyFaves.
You would put your assigned Google Voice number and the outgoing number that GV calls when you dial through it into MyFaves.
Then your calls would be free.
Against your TOS, though, and I believe that T-Mobile has since gotten rid of the MyFaves option.
Not sure about that.
I still have MyFaves on my contract (it runs out in about 18 months) so until then I'll enjoy free calling.
Although, oddly enough, while I only have the 300 minutes/month voice plan, I've never gone over since I started using my G1.
Between Google Voice voice mail transcripts and IMAP email, I don't actually make or take that many calls anymore.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30666122</id>
	<title>Re:In Soviet Russia, phone owns you...</title>
	<author>skozsert</author>
	<datestamp>1262717940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A small amount of research would reveal that:<br> <br>
1) <a href="http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/</a> [google.com] is available for several android phones, you need root and a kernel driver.  Google has nothing to do with that, their developer phones and the nexus 1 are sold unlocked with root(at least I would assume you have root on the N1), the handset manufacturers and carriers lock down their devices.<br> <br>
2)see above, also supports bluetooth.  Cyanogenmod also has built in usb tether support.<br> <br>
3)Multitasking is also supported on android devices, in fact it uses the same scheme where apps continue running in the background until memory is needed that winmo uses.  You can also mount the memory card from an android phone over usb.  The phones actual memory can be accessed through adb.<br> <br>

I haven't used a winmo phone since I traded in my c600 but seems like Microsoft is pretty hands-off about dictating the degree of openness, carriers choose the capabilities of their devices.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A small amount of research would reveal that : 1 ) http : //code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ [ google.com ] is available for several android phones , you need root and a kernel driver .
Google has nothing to do with that , their developer phones and the nexus 1 are sold unlocked with root ( at least I would assume you have root on the N1 ) , the handset manufacturers and carriers lock down their devices .
2 ) see above , also supports bluetooth .
Cyanogenmod also has built in usb tether support .
3 ) Multitasking is also supported on android devices , in fact it uses the same scheme where apps continue running in the background until memory is needed that winmo uses .
You can also mount the memory card from an android phone over usb .
The phones actual memory can be accessed through adb .
I have n't used a winmo phone since I traded in my c600 but seems like Microsoft is pretty hands-off about dictating the degree of openness , carriers choose the capabilities of their devices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A small amount of research would reveal that: 
1) http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ [google.com] is available for several android phones, you need root and a kernel driver.
Google has nothing to do with that, their developer phones and the nexus 1 are sold unlocked with root(at least I would assume you have root on the N1), the handset manufacturers and carriers lock down their devices.
2)see above, also supports bluetooth.
Cyanogenmod also has built in usb tether support.
3)Multitasking is also supported on android devices, in fact it uses the same scheme where apps continue running in the background until memory is needed that winmo uses.
You can also mount the memory card from an android phone over usb.
The phones actual memory can be accessed through adb.
I haven't used a winmo phone since I traded in my c600 but seems like Microsoft is pretty hands-off about dictating the degree of openness, carriers choose the capabilities of their devices.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660142</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>oahazmatt</author>
	<datestamp>1262684460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the 16 GB of storage on the iPhone is typically filled with music</p></div><p>
I've yet to see any studies saying that's typical. Possible? Yes. I wouldn't say typical. However, just to play along, let's say it is typical. The space allocated for applications is for the <i>individual</i> to decide. The individual has ~16 GB to arrange applications, music and video. As it's being reported in the article, the space allocated for applications is set by the <i>manufacturer</i>.
<br> <br>
There is a difference between "I only <i>need</i> this much space for applications" and "I only <i>have</i> this much space for applications."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the 16 GB of storage on the iPhone is typically filled with music I 've yet to see any studies saying that 's typical .
Possible ? Yes .
I would n't say typical .
However , just to play along , let 's say it is typical .
The space allocated for applications is for the individual to decide .
The individual has ~ 16 GB to arrange applications , music and video .
As it 's being reported in the article , the space allocated for applications is set by the manufacturer .
There is a difference between " I only need this much space for applications " and " I only have this much space for applications .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the 16 GB of storage on the iPhone is typically filled with music
I've yet to see any studies saying that's typical.
Possible? Yes.
I wouldn't say typical.
However, just to play along, let's say it is typical.
The space allocated for applications is for the individual to decide.
The individual has ~16 GB to arrange applications, music and video.
As it's being reported in the article, the space allocated for applications is set by the manufacturer.
There is a difference between "I only need this much space for applications" and "I only have this much space for applications.
"
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30700548</id>
	<title>Re:It's $279 for existing Tmobile customer renewal</title>
	<author>SkimTony</author>
	<datestamp>1262947560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not even worth the contract for new customers.  T-Mobile offers "Even More" plans, which subsidize the phone price, and "Even More Plus" plans, which do not (these are only available to those who are not on a phone contract).  Based on my conversations with T-Mobile customer service this morning, you could:</p><p>Pay $179 for the Nexus One phone, and be required to purchase the "Even More" plan with Unlimited Web, texting, and 500 Minutes of calling per month for $79.99 for a contract term of 24 months.  Total cost: $179 + (24 months * $79.99) = $2,098.76.</p><p>Pay $529 for the Nexus One phone.  Sign up for a T-Mobile "Even More Plus" plan with Unlimited Web and text, and 500 Minutes of calling per month, for $59.99/mo.  Total Cost: $529 + (24 months * $59.99) = $1,968.76.</p><p>Essentially, you end up paying $659 for the phone over two years, rather than $529 up front.  Or, you could look at it as financing the phone, with an interest rate of around 12\% for two years.  Maybe that's better than carrying it on a high-interest credit card, but it's still an abusive rate on top of the early termination fee they charge you if you want to leave.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not even worth the contract for new customers .
T-Mobile offers " Even More " plans , which subsidize the phone price , and " Even More Plus " plans , which do not ( these are only available to those who are not on a phone contract ) .
Based on my conversations with T-Mobile customer service this morning , you could : Pay $ 179 for the Nexus One phone , and be required to purchase the " Even More " plan with Unlimited Web , texting , and 500 Minutes of calling per month for $ 79.99 for a contract term of 24 months .
Total cost : $ 179 + ( 24 months * $ 79.99 ) = $ 2,098.76.Pay $ 529 for the Nexus One phone .
Sign up for a T-Mobile " Even More Plus " plan with Unlimited Web and text , and 500 Minutes of calling per month , for $ 59.99/mo .
Total Cost : $ 529 + ( 24 months * $ 59.99 ) = $ 1,968.76.Essentially , you end up paying $ 659 for the phone over two years , rather than $ 529 up front .
Or , you could look at it as financing the phone , with an interest rate of around 12 \ % for two years .
Maybe that 's better than carrying it on a high-interest credit card , but it 's still an abusive rate on top of the early termination fee they charge you if you want to leave .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not even worth the contract for new customers.
T-Mobile offers "Even More" plans, which subsidize the phone price, and "Even More Plus" plans, which do not (these are only available to those who are not on a phone contract).
Based on my conversations with T-Mobile customer service this morning, you could:Pay $179 for the Nexus One phone, and be required to purchase the "Even More" plan with Unlimited Web, texting, and 500 Minutes of calling per month for $79.99 for a contract term of 24 months.
Total cost: $179 + (24 months * $79.99) = $2,098.76.Pay $529 for the Nexus One phone.
Sign up for a T-Mobile "Even More Plus" plan with Unlimited Web and text, and 500 Minutes of calling per month, for $59.99/mo.
Total Cost: $529 + (24 months * $59.99) = $1,968.76.Essentially, you end up paying $659 for the phone over two years, rather than $529 up front.
Or, you could look at it as financing the phone, with an interest rate of around 12\% for two years.
Maybe that's better than carrying it on a high-interest credit card, but it's still an abusive rate on top of the early termination fee they charge you if you want to leave.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30674814</id>
	<title>Re:Only $529!</title>
	<author>MemoryDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1262772180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>whether consciously or not, google is potentially breaking this scheme by offering a desirable higher-end smartphone, unlocked. personally, after being bound to AT&amp;T's crappy service for almost 2 years now i will never buy a subsidized phone again.</p></div><p>This scheme is only broken in the US, unsubsidized phones are pretty much available for every brand over here in europe (you have both options on most phones), the iPhone here is more the exception than the rule. And even in some countries the iPhone can be bought unsubsidized because it is against the law in several countries to offer just the subsidized version.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>whether consciously or not , google is potentially breaking this scheme by offering a desirable higher-end smartphone , unlocked .
personally , after being bound to AT&amp;T 's crappy service for almost 2 years now i will never buy a subsidized phone again.This scheme is only broken in the US , unsubsidized phones are pretty much available for every brand over here in europe ( you have both options on most phones ) , the iPhone here is more the exception than the rule .
And even in some countries the iPhone can be bought unsubsidized because it is against the law in several countries to offer just the subsidized version .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>whether consciously or not, google is potentially breaking this scheme by offering a desirable higher-end smartphone, unlocked.
personally, after being bound to AT&amp;T's crappy service for almost 2 years now i will never buy a subsidized phone again.This scheme is only broken in the US, unsubsidized phones are pretty much available for every brand over here in europe (you have both options on most phones), the iPhone here is more the exception than the rule.
And even in some countries the iPhone can be bought unsubsidized because it is against the law in several countries to offer just the subsidized version.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30667706</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Jupix</author>
	<datestamp>1262780100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>thinner and lighter than iphone 3g/s<br>
- And uglier.<br> <br>
3.7" 400x800 AMOLED display<br>
- This is nice.<br> <br>
5MP, LED flash camera<br>
video at 720x480<br>
- These are pointless when the problem with mobile cameras has always been optics, not how many pixels it blows the image up to. I mean the Omnia HD can shoot 720p video but picture quality, which is what you actually want, is subpar. It's blurry and it skips frames. Only sample pics will tell if the camera in the Nexus is actually good, or just high resolution.<br> <br>
3.5mm headphone adapter (first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design)<br>
proximity sensor<br>
light sensor<br>
- Basically they're just catching up with what iphone users already have.<br> <br>
android 2.1<br>
- Still worse than the iPhone OS, at least from looking at the engadget video that was on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. a few days ago. Buggy, jerky, laggy and won't interpret touch correctly at times. I hate the design philosophy behind the iPhone OS but clearly it makes a better OS.<br> <br>
I take it this device is a nice leap forward for HTC users, and that's to be lauded, but it's apparently supposed to be an iphone killer. I'm a huge gadget enthusiast and I'd really like there to be a real iphone killer, but with a product that seems to perform worse than the iphone, they just haven't got one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>thinner and lighter than iphone 3g/s - And uglier .
3.7 " 400x800 AMOLED display - This is nice .
5MP , LED flash camera video at 720x480 - These are pointless when the problem with mobile cameras has always been optics , not how many pixels it blows the image up to .
I mean the Omnia HD can shoot 720p video but picture quality , which is what you actually want , is subpar .
It 's blurry and it skips frames .
Only sample pics will tell if the camera in the Nexus is actually good , or just high resolution .
3.5mm headphone adapter ( first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design ) proximity sensor light sensor - Basically they 're just catching up with what iphone users already have .
android 2.1 - Still worse than the iPhone OS , at least from looking at the engadget video that was on / .
a few days ago .
Buggy , jerky , laggy and wo n't interpret touch correctly at times .
I hate the design philosophy behind the iPhone OS but clearly it makes a better OS .
I take it this device is a nice leap forward for HTC users , and that 's to be lauded , but it 's apparently supposed to be an iphone killer .
I 'm a huge gadget enthusiast and I 'd really like there to be a real iphone killer , but with a product that seems to perform worse than the iphone , they just have n't got one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>thinner and lighter than iphone 3g/s
- And uglier.
3.7" 400x800 AMOLED display
- This is nice.
5MP, LED flash camera
video at 720x480
- These are pointless when the problem with mobile cameras has always been optics, not how many pixels it blows the image up to.
I mean the Omnia HD can shoot 720p video but picture quality, which is what you actually want, is subpar.
It's blurry and it skips frames.
Only sample pics will tell if the camera in the Nexus is actually good, or just high resolution.
3.5mm headphone adapter (first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design)
proximity sensor
light sensor
- Basically they're just catching up with what iphone users already have.
android 2.1
- Still worse than the iPhone OS, at least from looking at the engadget video that was on /.
a few days ago.
Buggy, jerky, laggy and won't interpret touch correctly at times.
I hate the design philosophy behind the iPhone OS but clearly it makes a better OS.
I take it this device is a nice leap forward for HTC users, and that's to be lauded, but it's apparently supposed to be an iphone killer.
I'm a huge gadget enthusiast and I'd really like there to be a real iphone killer, but with a product that seems to perform worse than the iphone, they just haven't got one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660166</id>
	<title>Re:190 MB for Apps?</title>
	<author>MemoryDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1262684520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually on hacked android phones you have the possibility already by using apps2sd, I assume Google shuns away for copy protection reasons for now. From what I have read they are working on a solution to push the apps encrypted to the SD.</p><p>But seriously 190MB for apps is not too shabby, the reason simply is, that the apps can store there data on the sd and almost all do it that way, so you end up with an average app size of 3-4 MB if at all. 190 MB is a lot in such an environment!<br>I only ran against my limit once in my HTC hero which has less free apps space and only because a stupid comic reader did not conform to the standards and did not buffer its data on the SD but used the apps ram instead. After deleting it, I have not run against the limit again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually on hacked android phones you have the possibility already by using apps2sd , I assume Google shuns away for copy protection reasons for now .
From what I have read they are working on a solution to push the apps encrypted to the SD.But seriously 190MB for apps is not too shabby , the reason simply is , that the apps can store there data on the sd and almost all do it that way , so you end up with an average app size of 3-4 MB if at all .
190 MB is a lot in such an environment ! I only ran against my limit once in my HTC hero which has less free apps space and only because a stupid comic reader did not conform to the standards and did not buffer its data on the SD but used the apps ram instead .
After deleting it , I have not run against the limit again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually on hacked android phones you have the possibility already by using apps2sd, I assume Google shuns away for copy protection reasons for now.
From what I have read they are working on a solution to push the apps encrypted to the SD.But seriously 190MB for apps is not too shabby, the reason simply is, that the apps can store there data on the sd and almost all do it that way, so you end up with an average app size of 3-4 MB if at all.
190 MB is a lot in such an environment!I only ran against my limit once in my HTC hero which has less free apps space and only because a stupid comic reader did not conform to the standards and did not buffer its data on the SD but used the apps ram instead.
After deleting it, I have not run against the limit again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661000</id>
	<title>Re:App space explained</title>
	<author>DJRumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1262687520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think 190 MB is a nit shortsighted. The original iPhone apps started out small and simple in this way, but they've become much richer (and much larger) as a result as the App store matured and the developers started stretching their legs a bit. On the iPhone, there are many apps that are only 1MB (or less), but there are also a slew that are easily over 10, and the professional titles are easily over 100 MB like Spore, or Monkey Ball. The latest Myst title is supposed to be 700 MB. Any 3D app is going to have a hefty size.</p><p>Although 190 MB may be sufficient for now, I doubt it will stay that way once this phone's app selection matures.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think 190 MB is a nit shortsighted .
The original iPhone apps started out small and simple in this way , but they 've become much richer ( and much larger ) as a result as the App store matured and the developers started stretching their legs a bit .
On the iPhone , there are many apps that are only 1MB ( or less ) , but there are also a slew that are easily over 10 , and the professional titles are easily over 100 MB like Spore , or Monkey Ball .
The latest Myst title is supposed to be 700 MB .
Any 3D app is going to have a hefty size.Although 190 MB may be sufficient for now , I doubt it will stay that way once this phone 's app selection matures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think 190 MB is a nit shortsighted.
The original iPhone apps started out small and simple in this way, but they've become much richer (and much larger) as a result as the App store matured and the developers started stretching their legs a bit.
On the iPhone, there are many apps that are only 1MB (or less), but there are also a slew that are easily over 10, and the professional titles are easily over 100 MB like Spore, or Monkey Ball.
The latest Myst title is supposed to be 700 MB.
Any 3D app is going to have a hefty size.Although 190 MB may be sufficient for now, I doubt it will stay that way once this phone's app selection matures.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662166</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>fermion</author>
	<datestamp>1262692620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The issue with the App memory is that it sounds like a design decision made in a desperate attempt to accommodate some flaw in design or reduce costs.  It may or may not be a problem.  On the iPhone there is no reason to separate data and code, such as in books or games.  On the Nexus one it might be that data is always separate.  In addition, developers can always spend more time optimizing code for size.  And of course, most users are not going to need that many apps.  Users will just have to be more picky about what apps to buy, rather than just doing what I do, which is spend a couple dollars on anything that looks cool.
<p>
My personal opinion is that is one of those silly decisions that sounds good in corporate, but end up causing long terms misary.  I am thinking about the MS DOS decision on memory.  Anyone remember the zoo of extended and expanded memory hacks? Sure it was fun to play with, but when work had to get done...
</p><p>
This nexus one is a good phone, and it is good for consumers.  Everything that I have read has just been comparing this phone to others phones, pointing out that there are as many drawbacks here as any other phone.  For example, the iPhone does not synch well with google, and the nexus one does not synch well with anything buy google, allegedly.  The Nexus comes with 4 GB of memory, upgradable to 32 gb for around $100.  For $300 you buy the iPhone with 32 GB.  Some people do have $500 to throw away on the unlocked phone.  It may go down to $400, but I doubt it.  These prices are driven by what the market will bear, not what profit is necessary.  Unlocked smart phones right now seem to be at $500, and not moving.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The issue with the App memory is that it sounds like a design decision made in a desperate attempt to accommodate some flaw in design or reduce costs .
It may or may not be a problem .
On the iPhone there is no reason to separate data and code , such as in books or games .
On the Nexus one it might be that data is always separate .
In addition , developers can always spend more time optimizing code for size .
And of course , most users are not going to need that many apps .
Users will just have to be more picky about what apps to buy , rather than just doing what I do , which is spend a couple dollars on anything that looks cool .
My personal opinion is that is one of those silly decisions that sounds good in corporate , but end up causing long terms misary .
I am thinking about the MS DOS decision on memory .
Anyone remember the zoo of extended and expanded memory hacks ?
Sure it was fun to play with , but when work had to get done.. . This nexus one is a good phone , and it is good for consumers .
Everything that I have read has just been comparing this phone to others phones , pointing out that there are as many drawbacks here as any other phone .
For example , the iPhone does not synch well with google , and the nexus one does not synch well with anything buy google , allegedly .
The Nexus comes with 4 GB of memory , upgradable to 32 gb for around $ 100 .
For $ 300 you buy the iPhone with 32 GB .
Some people do have $ 500 to throw away on the unlocked phone .
It may go down to $ 400 , but I doubt it .
These prices are driven by what the market will bear , not what profit is necessary .
Unlocked smart phones right now seem to be at $ 500 , and not moving .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The issue with the App memory is that it sounds like a design decision made in a desperate attempt to accommodate some flaw in design or reduce costs.
It may or may not be a problem.
On the iPhone there is no reason to separate data and code, such as in books or games.
On the Nexus one it might be that data is always separate.
In addition, developers can always spend more time optimizing code for size.
And of course, most users are not going to need that many apps.
Users will just have to be more picky about what apps to buy, rather than just doing what I do, which is spend a couple dollars on anything that looks cool.
My personal opinion is that is one of those silly decisions that sounds good in corporate, but end up causing long terms misary.
I am thinking about the MS DOS decision on memory.
Anyone remember the zoo of extended and expanded memory hacks?
Sure it was fun to play with, but when work had to get done...

This nexus one is a good phone, and it is good for consumers.
Everything that I have read has just been comparing this phone to others phones, pointing out that there are as many drawbacks here as any other phone.
For example, the iPhone does not synch well with google, and the nexus one does not synch well with anything buy google, allegedly.
The Nexus comes with 4 GB of memory, upgradable to 32 gb for around $100.
For $300 you buy the iPhone with 32 GB.
Some people do have $500 to throw away on the unlocked phone.
It may go down to $400, but I doubt it.
These prices are driven by what the market will bear, not what profit is necessary.
Unlocked smart phones right now seem to be at $500, and not moving.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660410</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262685240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i have a 32GB iphone and i range from 2GB to 4GB worth of applications. the GPS apps are 1.5GB since they download all data. google like RIM and Danger are into this cloud thing where you're not allowed to have any data on your device. some of the games are hundreds of MB. on android you can code to store app data on the SD card, but then that means more dev time.</p><p>people laugh at the iphone but in the 125,000 apps there are literally thousands of apps for professionals on the go including VMWare management and access to expensive commercial databases to look up data wherever you are. For now Android is a toy while the iphone is well ahead as a tool to get work done</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i have a 32GB iphone and i range from 2GB to 4GB worth of applications .
the GPS apps are 1.5GB since they download all data .
google like RIM and Danger are into this cloud thing where you 're not allowed to have any data on your device .
some of the games are hundreds of MB .
on android you can code to store app data on the SD card , but then that means more dev time.people laugh at the iphone but in the 125,000 apps there are literally thousands of apps for professionals on the go including VMWare management and access to expensive commercial databases to look up data wherever you are .
For now Android is a toy while the iphone is well ahead as a tool to get work done</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i have a 32GB iphone and i range from 2GB to 4GB worth of applications.
the GPS apps are 1.5GB since they download all data.
google like RIM and Danger are into this cloud thing where you're not allowed to have any data on your device.
some of the games are hundreds of MB.
on android you can code to store app data on the SD card, but then that means more dev time.people laugh at the iphone but in the 125,000 apps there are literally thousands of apps for professionals on the go including VMWare management and access to expensive commercial databases to look up data wherever you are.
For now Android is a toy while the iphone is well ahead as a tool to get work done</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660436</id>
	<title>Re:I was hoping for a new business model</title>
	<author>MemoryDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1262685300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You also could buy the phone unsubsidized get a cheaper data plan, and you could switch networks more easily.<br>My days of subsidized phones are over since this year, and I am happy, no more simlocks, cheaper data plans etc...<br>In the end you pay less.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You also could buy the phone unsubsidized get a cheaper data plan , and you could switch networks more easily.My days of subsidized phones are over since this year , and I am happy , no more simlocks , cheaper data plans etc...In the end you pay less .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You also could buy the phone unsubsidized get a cheaper data plan, and you could switch networks more easily.My days of subsidized phones are over since this year, and I am happy, no more simlocks, cheaper data plans etc...In the end you pay less.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660664</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262686200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Ummmm, do users of other smartphones not play music?</p></div><p>An iphone is basically an extended music player  in much the same way as a Blackberry is an extended emailer. Just like your typical Blackberry user spends all their time in email, your typical iphone user has a lot of music. No idea what the equivalent is for Android users,</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ummmm , do users of other smartphones not play music ? An iphone is basically an extended music player in much the same way as a Blackberry is an extended emailer .
Just like your typical Blackberry user spends all their time in email , your typical iphone user has a lot of music .
No idea what the equivalent is for Android users ,</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ummmm, do users of other smartphones not play music?An iphone is basically an extended music player  in much the same way as a Blackberry is an extended emailer.
Just like your typical Blackberry user spends all their time in email, your typical iphone user has a lot of music.
No idea what the equivalent is for Android users,
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662678</id>
	<title>By looks alone</title>
	<author>relaxinparadise</author>
	<datestamp>1262695320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Nexus One certainly is a beautifully designed phone, nice color choice and lines. First phone I've seen that surpasses the iPhone in looks, as subjective a statement that is to say. A nice thing is the ability to buy the phone straight up and not get locked into a 2 year prison term with a carrier.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Nexus One certainly is a beautifully designed phone , nice color choice and lines .
First phone I 've seen that surpasses the iPhone in looks , as subjective a statement that is to say .
A nice thing is the ability to buy the phone straight up and not get locked into a 2 year prison term with a carrier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Nexus One certainly is a beautifully designed phone, nice color choice and lines.
First phone I've seen that surpasses the iPhone in looks, as subjective a statement that is to say.
A nice thing is the ability to buy the phone straight up and not get locked into a 2 year prison term with a carrier.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660252</id>
	<title>Re:190 MB for Apps?</title>
	<author>prometx42</author>
	<datestamp>1262684700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bingo...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bingo.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bingo...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30665602</id>
	<title>Re:Only $529!</title>
	<author>Skythe</author>
	<datestamp>1262712540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's only $22 a month on a 24-month contract. Often that's around the same price as the handset repayment, so what's the difference? (This is in Australia though). Generally the higher $ plans have the handset for "free" - but I assume this is the only level at which they can justify subsidizing the handset to be free from the extra $$$ they are making. I'm on a pre-paid plan and having done the math it worked out only a few dollars more a month to buy the phone outright, be on the flexibility of a pre-paid plan with similar $$$ and data and not a contract.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's only $ 22 a month on a 24-month contract .
Often that 's around the same price as the handset repayment , so what 's the difference ?
( This is in Australia though ) .
Generally the higher $ plans have the handset for " free " - but I assume this is the only level at which they can justify subsidizing the handset to be free from the extra $ $ $ they are making .
I 'm on a pre-paid plan and having done the math it worked out only a few dollars more a month to buy the phone outright , be on the flexibility of a pre-paid plan with similar $ $ $ and data and not a contract .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's only $22 a month on a 24-month contract.
Often that's around the same price as the handset repayment, so what's the difference?
(This is in Australia though).
Generally the higher $ plans have the handset for "free" - but I assume this is the only level at which they can justify subsidizing the handset to be free from the extra $$$ they are making.
I'm on a pre-paid plan and having done the math it worked out only a few dollars more a month to buy the phone outright, be on the flexibility of a pre-paid plan with similar $$$ and data and not a contract.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660368</id>
	<title>People who start a sen</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1262685120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>tence in the subject and continue it in the body.</p><p>After top posters, who are the most annoying thing on the  internet?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>tence in the subject and continue it in the body.After top posters , who are the most annoying thing on the internet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>tence in the subject and continue it in the body.After top posters, who are the most annoying thing on the  internet?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661102</id>
	<title>Battery Life</title>
	<author>asdf7890</author>
	<datestamp>1262688000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>What are the charging times and use-between-charges metrics for this phone? The only Android based phone I've seen is a friends that sometimes barely lasts a day without a recharge even if you don't use it at all for calls/data/anything during that time, and it was that bad from new. That would make that phone useless to me as I am sometimes a day or two between convenient power outlets during which time I need to use my phone... Also, can the battery be easily and cheaply replaced if it degrades, unlike the batteries in Apple's product line?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What are the charging times and use-between-charges metrics for this phone ?
The only Android based phone I 've seen is a friends that sometimes barely lasts a day without a recharge even if you do n't use it at all for calls/data/anything during that time , and it was that bad from new .
That would make that phone useless to me as I am sometimes a day or two between convenient power outlets during which time I need to use my phone... Also , can the battery be easily and cheaply replaced if it degrades , unlike the batteries in Apple 's product line ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are the charging times and use-between-charges metrics for this phone?
The only Android based phone I've seen is a friends that sometimes barely lasts a day without a recharge even if you don't use it at all for calls/data/anything during that time, and it was that bad from new.
That would make that phone useless to me as I am sometimes a day or two between convenient power outlets during which time I need to use my phone... Also, can the battery be easily and cheaply replaced if it degrades, unlike the batteries in Apple's product line?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661906</id>
	<title>Re:In Soviet Russia, phone owns you...</title>
	<author>Orange Crush</author>
	<datestamp>1262691420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can do this w/ my rooted G1.  I have yet to hear if the "full price" Nexus Ones allow custom firmwares like the DevPhones.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can do this w/ my rooted G1 .
I have yet to hear if the " full price " Nexus Ones allow custom firmwares like the DevPhones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can do this w/ my rooted G1.
I have yet to hear if the "full price" Nexus Ones allow custom firmwares like the DevPhones.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660350</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663242</id>
	<title>Re:Good Alternative</title>
	<author>mgblst</author>
	<datestamp>1262697780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is even a greater alternative to those who do not want any other phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is even a greater alternative to those who do not want any other phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is even a greater alternative to those who do not want any other phone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659986</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660572</id>
	<title>Tether</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262685840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Android can tether, I don't see why it wouldn't work on T-Mobile.  I bought a Nokia N900 and tether seems to work without a problem.    As long as you have an app that can do it, you should be set.</p><p>Looks like an interesting phone.  I'll stay with the N900 for now.  I've loved the ability to ssh to my phone, run apt-get, apt-cache search etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Android can tether , I do n't see why it would n't work on T-Mobile .
I bought a Nokia N900 and tether seems to work without a problem .
As long as you have an app that can do it , you should be set.Looks like an interesting phone .
I 'll stay with the N900 for now .
I 've loved the ability to ssh to my phone , run apt-get , apt-cache search etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Android can tether, I don't see why it wouldn't work on T-Mobile.
I bought a Nokia N900 and tether seems to work without a problem.
As long as you have an app that can do it, you should be set.Looks like an interesting phone.
I'll stay with the N900 for now.
I've loved the ability to ssh to my phone, run apt-get, apt-cache search etc.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662104</id>
	<title>Safe area</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1262692320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wikipedia says the Nexus One phone's display is 800x480 (not 800x400) pixels when rotated to landscape, just like the display of the <a href="http://open-pandora.org/" title="open-pandora.org">Pandora PDA</a> [open-pandora.org]. In a 720x480 pixel widescreen video following <a href="http://lurkertech.com/lg/video-systems/" title="lurkertech.com">industry standards for SDTV and EDTV</a> [lurkertech.com], the center 704x480 pixels (not counting the Nominal Analog Blanking area) have a 16:9 display aspect ratio, which implies a 40:33 pixel aspect ratio. To restore square pixels, the player ideally stretches the center 660 pixels of this image to cover the 800-pixel width of the screen. This cuts off 22 pixels (27 square pixels) from each side, but SDTV and EDTV are framed in a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe\_area" title="wikipedia.org">safe area</a> [wikipedia.org]: displays are allowed to cut off a bit of the edge.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wikipedia says the Nexus One phone 's display is 800x480 ( not 800x400 ) pixels when rotated to landscape , just like the display of the Pandora PDA [ open-pandora.org ] .
In a 720x480 pixel widescreen video following industry standards for SDTV and EDTV [ lurkertech.com ] , the center 704x480 pixels ( not counting the Nominal Analog Blanking area ) have a 16 : 9 display aspect ratio , which implies a 40 : 33 pixel aspect ratio .
To restore square pixels , the player ideally stretches the center 660 pixels of this image to cover the 800-pixel width of the screen .
This cuts off 22 pixels ( 27 square pixels ) from each side , but SDTV and EDTV are framed in a safe area [ wikipedia.org ] : displays are allowed to cut off a bit of the edge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wikipedia says the Nexus One phone's display is 800x480 (not 800x400) pixels when rotated to landscape, just like the display of the Pandora PDA [open-pandora.org].
In a 720x480 pixel widescreen video following industry standards for SDTV and EDTV [lurkertech.com], the center 704x480 pixels (not counting the Nominal Analog Blanking area) have a 16:9 display aspect ratio, which implies a 40:33 pixel aspect ratio.
To restore square pixels, the player ideally stretches the center 660 pixels of this image to cover the 800-pixel width of the screen.
This cuts off 22 pixels (27 square pixels) from each side, but SDTV and EDTV are framed in a safe area [wikipedia.org]: displays are allowed to cut off a bit of the edge.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661298</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660342</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262685000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have over 1.3 Gigs of apps on my iPhone. It's not hard to use up that much space on an iPhone for apps. There are tons of apps out there that are well over 100mb.</p><p>Sure you may not play games, but then what about 3rd party mapping software which preloads all the maps to the phone.</p><p>Having only 190Mb for apps is a huge deal breaker for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have over 1.3 Gigs of apps on my iPhone .
It 's not hard to use up that much space on an iPhone for apps .
There are tons of apps out there that are well over 100mb.Sure you may not play games , but then what about 3rd party mapping software which preloads all the maps to the phone.Having only 190Mb for apps is a huge deal breaker for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have over 1.3 Gigs of apps on my iPhone.
It's not hard to use up that much space on an iPhone for apps.
There are tons of apps out there that are well over 100mb.Sure you may not play games, but then what about 3rd party mapping software which preloads all the maps to the phone.Having only 190Mb for apps is a huge deal breaker for me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659900</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660528</id>
	<title>Here's the thread from actual users.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262685660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>See <a href="http://androidforums.com/nexus-one/31199-got-its-fast-its-really-really-fast.html" title="androidforums.com" rel="nofollow">here</a> [androidforums.com] for lengthy back-and-forth with two guys who've had the phone in their hands since late last month.</p><p>If you read the whole thing, they've got benchmarks and such.  It's really long though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>See here [ androidforums.com ] for lengthy back-and-forth with two guys who 've had the phone in their hands since late last month.If you read the whole thing , they 've got benchmarks and such .
It 's really long though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See here [androidforums.com] for lengthy back-and-forth with two guys who've had the phone in their hands since late last month.If you read the whole thing, they've got benchmarks and such.
It's really long though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663788</id>
	<title>4.5GB?</title>
	<author>farble1670</author>
	<datestamp>1262700360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&quot;On the Nexus One, only 190 megabytes of its total 4.5 gigabytes of memory is allowed for storing apps&quot;</p><p>sigh. the phone comes with a 4GB removable (obviously) SD card (expandable to 32GB), and 512MB internal RAM. the SD card memory and the internal memory and separate and used for different purposes. </p><p>the internal RAM is used for storing and running apps. the SD card is used for storing data (app data, music files, video, pictures).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" On the Nexus One , only 190 megabytes of its total 4.5 gigabytes of memory is allowed for storing apps " sigh .
the phone comes with a 4GB removable ( obviously ) SD card ( expandable to 32GB ) , and 512MB internal RAM .
the SD card memory and the internal memory and separate and used for different purposes .
the internal RAM is used for storing and running apps .
the SD card is used for storing data ( app data , music files , video , pictures ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"On the Nexus One, only 190 megabytes of its total 4.5 gigabytes of memory is allowed for storing apps"sigh.
the phone comes with a 4GB removable (obviously) SD card (expandable to 32GB), and 512MB internal RAM.
the SD card memory and the internal memory and separate and used for different purposes.
the internal RAM is used for storing and running apps.
the SD card is used for storing data (app data, music files, video, pictures).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661588</id>
	<title>So basically...</title>
	<author>zullnero</author>
	<datestamp>1262689920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google gets Android on Motorola's hot new phone, piggybacks on Motorola's marketing to boost the popularity of their own OS, then kicks them to the curb with a phone with "better integration" of Android features without even giving Motorola more than a few months to establish their own niche.  Then, once the other Android phones "go away", Google turns up the data mining and the carriers just throw their hands up and say "well, they're Google, you know".
<br> <br>
Nice.  Well, their killer app for this one is voice recognition...though most people have to search for quiet places just to make a phone call, let alone voice transcribe an email.  And it's a killer feature that OS/2 users had in 1996 or so.
<br> <br>
I can forgive them for the app storage limit, though.  Palm's webOS had the same problem, but they fixed that a release or so ago.  Maybe Google will do the same.  So I can forgive them until they fix that...unless, of course, their magical build of Android needs all those gigabytes for caching audio clips or graphics or something.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google gets Android on Motorola 's hot new phone , piggybacks on Motorola 's marketing to boost the popularity of their own OS , then kicks them to the curb with a phone with " better integration " of Android features without even giving Motorola more than a few months to establish their own niche .
Then , once the other Android phones " go away " , Google turns up the data mining and the carriers just throw their hands up and say " well , they 're Google , you know " .
Nice. Well , their killer app for this one is voice recognition...though most people have to search for quiet places just to make a phone call , let alone voice transcribe an email .
And it 's a killer feature that OS/2 users had in 1996 or so .
I can forgive them for the app storage limit , though .
Palm 's webOS had the same problem , but they fixed that a release or so ago .
Maybe Google will do the same .
So I can forgive them until they fix that...unless , of course , their magical build of Android needs all those gigabytes for caching audio clips or graphics or something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google gets Android on Motorola's hot new phone, piggybacks on Motorola's marketing to boost the popularity of their own OS, then kicks them to the curb with a phone with "better integration" of Android features without even giving Motorola more than a few months to establish their own niche.
Then, once the other Android phones "go away", Google turns up the data mining and the carriers just throw their hands up and say "well, they're Google, you know".
Nice.  Well, their killer app for this one is voice recognition...though most people have to search for quiet places just to make a phone call, let alone voice transcribe an email.
And it's a killer feature that OS/2 users had in 1996 or so.
I can forgive them for the app storage limit, though.
Palm's webOS had the same problem, but they fixed that a release or so ago.
Maybe Google will do the same.
So I can forgive them until they fix that...unless, of course, their magical build of Android needs all those gigabytes for caching audio clips or graphics or something.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663774</id>
	<title>still no WiMAX crap</title>
	<author>justdrew</author>
	<datestamp>1262700360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm looking for a device like this with WiMAX so I can avoid any of the cellular carriers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm looking for a device like this with WiMAX so I can avoid any of the cellular carriers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm looking for a device like this with WiMAX so I can avoid any of the cellular carriers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660126</id>
	<title>Re:But Cellular Service is evil</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262684340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe that is "I thinks"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe that is " I thinks "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe that is "I thinks"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659832</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659976</id>
	<title>190</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262683920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>190 megabytes should be enough for anybody.</htmltext>
<tokenext>190 megabytes should be enough for anybody .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>190 megabytes should be enough for anybody.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661482</id>
	<title>Re:gaming?</title>
	<author>Karganeth</author>
	<datestamp>1262689440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>1Ghz isnt overkill. Also, the nexus one DOES have multitouch, its just that the apps preinstalled on the device dont have pinch zoom on them.  You can download a browser with pinch zoom whenever you like from the app store. So before you tell me it doesnt have multitouch, keep in mind that it does and this has been confirmed by several people who own the phone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1Ghz isnt overkill .
Also , the nexus one DOES have multitouch , its just that the apps preinstalled on the device dont have pinch zoom on them .
You can download a browser with pinch zoom whenever you like from the app store .
So before you tell me it doesnt have multitouch , keep in mind that it does and this has been confirmed by several people who own the phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1Ghz isnt overkill.
Also, the nexus one DOES have multitouch, its just that the apps preinstalled on the device dont have pinch zoom on them.
You can download a browser with pinch zoom whenever you like from the app store.
So before you tell me it doesnt have multitouch, keep in mind that it does and this has been confirmed by several people who own the phone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659988</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663442</id>
	<title>Re:I was hoping for a new business model</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1262698740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here in Europe, you either tie yourself into a contract and get the phone free, or pay money and have no ties. I've no ties on my Nokia 5800.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here in Europe , you either tie yourself into a contract and get the phone free , or pay money and have no ties .
I 've no ties on my Nokia 5800 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here in Europe, you either tie yourself into a contract and get the phone free, or pay money and have no ties.
I've no ties on my Nokia 5800.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660018</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660216</id>
	<title>Re:190 MB for Apps?</title>
	<author>Sancho</author>
	<datestamp>1262684640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're worried about piracy, allegedly.  People who have gotten root on other Android devices managed to get around this limitation, however.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're worried about piracy , allegedly .
People who have gotten root on other Android devices managed to get around this limitation , however .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're worried about piracy, allegedly.
People who have gotten root on other Android devices managed to get around this limitation, however.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659986</id>
	<title>Good Alternative</title>
	<author>CSHARP123</author>
	<datestamp>1262683920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Good alternative to those who do not want iPhone or Droid. You can buy this phone unlocked and get TMobile plan for unlimited minutes for 50 bucks or unlimited everything for 80 bucks. Works out much cheaper compared to both Verizon Droid or ATT iPhone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good alternative to those who do not want iPhone or Droid .
You can buy this phone unlocked and get TMobile plan for unlimited minutes for 50 bucks or unlimited everything for 80 bucks .
Works out much cheaper compared to both Verizon Droid or ATT iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good alternative to those who do not want iPhone or Droid.
You can buy this phone unlocked and get TMobile plan for unlimited minutes for 50 bucks or unlimited everything for 80 bucks.
Works out much cheaper compared to both Verizon Droid or ATT iPhone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660682</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262686260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="https://www.google.com/phone/choose?locale=en\_US&amp;s7e=" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/phone/choose?locale=en\_US&amp;s7e=</a> [google.com] </p><blockquote><div><p>500 talk minutes. Unlimited nights and weekends. Unlimited T-Mobile to T-Mobile minutes. Unlimited domestic messaging including SMS, MMS, IM. Android Unlimited Web. $79.99 per month</p></div> </blockquote><p>So unlimited web, unlimited text, only thing not unlimited on that plan is the minutes and from my experience with T-Mobile I can't imagine it would be more than an extra $20 for unlimited minutes, probably less.</p><p>But if you are really interested, just give them a call.  Or you could just continue to complain about it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>https : //www.google.com/phone/choose ? locale = en \ _US&amp;s7e = [ google.com ] 500 talk minutes .
Unlimited nights and weekends .
Unlimited T-Mobile to T-Mobile minutes .
Unlimited domestic messaging including SMS , MMS , IM .
Android Unlimited Web .
$ 79.99 per month So unlimited web , unlimited text , only thing not unlimited on that plan is the minutes and from my experience with T-Mobile I ca n't imagine it would be more than an extra $ 20 for unlimited minutes , probably less.But if you are really interested , just give them a call .
Or you could just continue to complain about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>https://www.google.com/phone/choose?locale=en\_US&amp;s7e= [google.com] 500 talk minutes.
Unlimited nights and weekends.
Unlimited T-Mobile to T-Mobile minutes.
Unlimited domestic messaging including SMS, MMS, IM.
Android Unlimited Web.
$79.99 per month So unlimited web, unlimited text, only thing not unlimited on that plan is the minutes and from my experience with T-Mobile I can't imagine it would be more than an extra $20 for unlimited minutes, probably less.But if you are really interested, just give them a call.
Or you could just continue to complain about it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661672</id>
	<title>Using Nexus as a Replacement for Netbook/Notebook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262690400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Nexus &amp; Droid have me completely rethinking my approach to using a laptop.  Do the Nexus and Droid have the ability to connect to a large screen and kbd/mouse for those times when I'd like do work with real documents and apps?


-</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Nexus &amp; Droid have me completely rethinking my approach to using a laptop .
Do the Nexus and Droid have the ability to connect to a large screen and kbd/mouse for those times when I 'd like do work with real documents and apps ?
-</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Nexus &amp; Droid have me completely rethinking my approach to using a laptop.
Do the Nexus and Droid have the ability to connect to a large screen and kbd/mouse for those times when I'd like do work with real documents and apps?
-</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662558</id>
	<title>Re:Only $529!</title>
	<author>richtaur</author>
	<datestamp>1262694660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wouldn't be so sure that Apple is profiting at $200 per iPod. Maybe, but hardware manufacturers (see Sony's lower PS3 price) first need time to increase manufacturing efficiency to lower the price, and they are sometimes willing to take a hit because of the software (or songs, apps, etc.) that can then be sold on the device. So although Sony might not profit from each PS3 sold, they can make up the difference from all the games you buy.<br>
<br>
I'd guess that's been how Apple sells their (handheld) hardware for decent prices.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't be so sure that Apple is profiting at $ 200 per iPod .
Maybe , but hardware manufacturers ( see Sony 's lower PS3 price ) first need time to increase manufacturing efficiency to lower the price , and they are sometimes willing to take a hit because of the software ( or songs , apps , etc .
) that can then be sold on the device .
So although Sony might not profit from each PS3 sold , they can make up the difference from all the games you buy .
I 'd guess that 's been how Apple sells their ( handheld ) hardware for decent prices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't be so sure that Apple is profiting at $200 per iPod.
Maybe, but hardware manufacturers (see Sony's lower PS3 price) first need time to increase manufacturing efficiency to lower the price, and they are sometimes willing to take a hit because of the software (or songs, apps, etc.
) that can then be sold on the device.
So although Sony might not profit from each PS3 sold, they can make up the difference from all the games you buy.
I'd guess that's been how Apple sells their (handheld) hardware for decent prices.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660476</id>
	<title>Re:No Multitouch</title>
	<author>Terrasque</author>
	<datestamp>1262685480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then it's good that android phones have hardware buttons!</p><p>4-way trackball(or in some phones, pad) + button, plus at least search + menu button games can use as they see fit. And that's on all android phones.</p><p>Even the crappy htc hero trackball is 10x better than iphone for gaming IMO.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then it 's good that android phones have hardware buttons ! 4-way trackball ( or in some phones , pad ) + button , plus at least search + menu button games can use as they see fit .
And that 's on all android phones.Even the crappy htc hero trackball is 10x better than iphone for gaming IMO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then it's good that android phones have hardware buttons!4-way trackball(or in some phones, pad) + button, plus at least search + menu button games can use as they see fit.
And that's on all android phones.Even the crappy htc hero trackball is 10x better than iphone for gaming IMO.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30681246</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Christoffer777</author>
	<datestamp>1262872980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't forget that they still have not made available the entire memory for applications.

If I remember correctly, they only have 196Megs for applications.

For me, that is reason enough I will not get this phone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget that they still have not made available the entire memory for applications .
If I remember correctly , they only have 196Megs for applications .
For me , that is reason enough I will not get this phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget that they still have not made available the entire memory for applications.
If I remember correctly, they only have 196Megs for applications.
For me, that is reason enough I will not get this phone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660024</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661246</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>tixxit</author>
	<datestamp>1262688660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><ul>
	<li>3.5mm headphone adapter (first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design) </li></ul></div><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Htc\_hero#Specifications" title="wikipedia.org">HTC Hero has a 3.5mm headphone jack</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>3.5mm headphone adapter ( first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design ) HTC Hero has a 3.5mm headphone jack [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
	3.5mm headphone adapter (first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design)  HTC Hero has a 3.5mm headphone jack [wikipedia.org]
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660326</id>
	<title>Price and product is garbage.</title>
	<author>L3370</author>
	<datestamp>1262685000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>for $500, I'd expect something that at least attempts to compete with iPhone.<br>

With the space limitation for applications it seems that this phone is worthless on any network outside of T-mobile. Verizon and AT&amp;T offer phones with less limitations. The only upside is the price savings potential when switching to T-mobile and taking full advantage of voip services.<br> <br>
In a way its like the phone price is subsidizing the price of the contract, rather than the contract allowing you to buy the phone at a cheaper price.</htmltext>
<tokenext>for $ 500 , I 'd expect something that at least attempts to compete with iPhone .
With the space limitation for applications it seems that this phone is worthless on any network outside of T-mobile .
Verizon and AT&amp;T offer phones with less limitations .
The only upside is the price savings potential when switching to T-mobile and taking full advantage of voip services .
In a way its like the phone price is subsidizing the price of the contract , rather than the contract allowing you to buy the phone at a cheaper price .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for $500, I'd expect something that at least attempts to compete with iPhone.
With the space limitation for applications it seems that this phone is worthless on any network outside of T-mobile.
Verizon and AT&amp;T offer phones with less limitations.
The only upside is the price savings potential when switching to T-mobile and taking full advantage of voip services.
In a way its like the phone price is subsidizing the price of the contract, rather than the contract allowing you to buy the phone at a cheaper price.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660408</id>
	<title>Re:I was hoping for a new business model</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1262685240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What are you, a goddam communist?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What are you , a goddam communist ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are you, a goddam communist?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660018</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661628</id>
	<title>Re:Choice, what a joke</title>
	<author>farble1670</author>
	<datestamp>1262690160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>google has already announced the N1 on three of the four major US carriers. what other phone can claim that?i agree it would be great if US carriers had compatible networks, but i don't think you can blame google for that or expect them to fix it.</p><p>a single phone to have the hardware for both 3g networks and both CDMA carriers? no existing phone has that either, for economic reasons. you yourself noted that the price of the (single network) N1 is excessive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>google has already announced the N1 on three of the four major US carriers .
what other phone can claim that ? i agree it would be great if US carriers had compatible networks , but i do n't think you can blame google for that or expect them to fix it.a single phone to have the hardware for both 3g networks and both CDMA carriers ?
no existing phone has that either , for economic reasons .
you yourself noted that the price of the ( single network ) N1 is excessive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>google has already announced the N1 on three of the four major US carriers.
what other phone can claim that?i agree it would be great if US carriers had compatible networks, but i don't think you can blame google for that or expect them to fix it.a single phone to have the hardware for both 3g networks and both CDMA carriers?
no existing phone has that either, for economic reasons.
you yourself noted that the price of the (single network) N1 is excessive.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660736</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30665550</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>glenn.ramsey</author>
	<datestamp>1262712240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The phone does not display 720x480 resolution. It takes video at that resolution, meaning if you transfer the video to another device (say a PC), you would be able to view the full 720x480 resolution.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The phone does not display 720x480 resolution .
It takes video at that resolution , meaning if you transfer the video to another device ( say a PC ) , you would be able to view the full 720x480 resolution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The phone does not display 720x480 resolution.
It takes video at that resolution, meaning if you transfer the video to another device (say a PC), you would be able to view the full 720x480 resolution.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661298</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663986</id>
	<title>Re:In Soviet Russia, phone owns you...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262701620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Shit! Stupid AdBlock, I keep it updated and I still get ads!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Shit !
Stupid AdBlock , I keep it updated and I still get ads !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shit!
Stupid AdBlock, I keep it updated and I still get ads!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660350</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30665394</id>
	<title>Biggest: dual mics to filter background noise</title>
	<author>electrosoccertux</author>
	<datestamp>1262710920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That one takes the cake, in my opinion.<br>(not like it'll matter on T-Mobile's network-- I'm much more impressed with the call quality [than T-Mobile's when I was with them] on MetroPCS when I'm in an EVDO area (they have that for voice in the major markets-- just not data).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That one takes the cake , in my opinion .
( not like it 'll matter on T-Mobile 's network-- I 'm much more impressed with the call quality [ than T-Mobile 's when I was with them ] on MetroPCS when I 'm in an EVDO area ( they have that for voice in the major markets-- just not data ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That one takes the cake, in my opinion.
(not like it'll matter on T-Mobile's network-- I'm much more impressed with the call quality [than T-Mobile's when I was with them] on MetroPCS when I'm in an EVDO area (they have that for voice in the major markets-- just not data).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660024</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659948</id>
	<title>I was looking forward to this device far more....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262683800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Before I found out it would be essentially another "buy into a contract or pay a half a grand for it" phone.   You could get a completely unlocked G1 as well if you wanted to pay a much higher price and go through the dev phone procurement process.   Also it's Edge only on AT&amp;T, so not truly carrier agnostic.</p><p>The Google site for it earlier couldn't even sell you the T-mobile plan, so it was grayed out, same for the Verison and Vodaphone options which aren't available yet.</p><p>So essentially , it's a new phone on T-mobile.</p><p>I remember when it was a supposed to be a phone you could just get a data only plan for and use VOIP and Google voice on for a reasonable price.  Apparently that was the flash and hype.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Before I found out it would be essentially another " buy into a contract or pay a half a grand for it " phone .
You could get a completely unlocked G1 as well if you wanted to pay a much higher price and go through the dev phone procurement process .
Also it 's Edge only on AT&amp;T , so not truly carrier agnostic.The Google site for it earlier could n't even sell you the T-mobile plan , so it was grayed out , same for the Verison and Vodaphone options which are n't available yet.So essentially , it 's a new phone on T-mobile.I remember when it was a supposed to be a phone you could just get a data only plan for and use VOIP and Google voice on for a reasonable price .
Apparently that was the flash and hype .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Before I found out it would be essentially another "buy into a contract or pay a half a grand for it" phone.
You could get a completely unlocked G1 as well if you wanted to pay a much higher price and go through the dev phone procurement process.
Also it's Edge only on AT&amp;T, so not truly carrier agnostic.The Google site for it earlier couldn't even sell you the T-mobile plan, so it was grayed out, same for the Verison and Vodaphone options which aren't available yet.So essentially , it's a new phone on T-mobile.I remember when it was a supposed to be a phone you could just get a data only plan for and use VOIP and Google voice on for a reasonable price.
Apparently that was the flash and hype.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30664110</id>
	<title>Re:Only $529!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262702580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, buying the parts to build your own seems to run not that much less:<br>http://www.gumstix.com/store/catalog/product\_info.php?products\_id=202</p><p>(To be fair, Gumstix doesn't get the cost benefit of producing in anywhere near the volume of any consumer product.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , buying the parts to build your own seems to run not that much less : http : //www.gumstix.com/store/catalog/product \ _info.php ? products \ _id = 202 ( To be fair , Gumstix does n't get the cost benefit of producing in anywhere near the volume of any consumer product .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, buying the parts to build your own seems to run not that much less:http://www.gumstix.com/store/catalog/product\_info.php?products\_id=202(To be fair, Gumstix doesn't get the cost benefit of producing in anywhere near the volume of any consumer product.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660158</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660004</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>klasikahl</author>
	<datestamp>1262683980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unfortunately the only plan available has but 500 anytime minutes.  I think T-Mo/Google are a bit insane for this move.  The phone is, IMO, targeted at power users and those with disposable incomes - the same market that talks a lot.  I personally hit 1200-1500 anytime minutes a month.  This 500 minute plan would be insanity for someone like myself.
<br> <br>
Also, the 500 minute plan from T-Mo is $40/mo if you're not getting a Nexus but should you decide to grab the phone and the accompanying plan, you'll be paying $80/mo.  What is the logic here?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately the only plan available has but 500 anytime minutes .
I think T-Mo/Google are a bit insane for this move .
The phone is , IMO , targeted at power users and those with disposable incomes - the same market that talks a lot .
I personally hit 1200-1500 anytime minutes a month .
This 500 minute plan would be insanity for someone like myself .
Also , the 500 minute plan from T-Mo is $ 40/mo if you 're not getting a Nexus but should you decide to grab the phone and the accompanying plan , you 'll be paying $ 80/mo .
What is the logic here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately the only plan available has but 500 anytime minutes.
I think T-Mo/Google are a bit insane for this move.
The phone is, IMO, targeted at power users and those with disposable incomes - the same market that talks a lot.
I personally hit 1200-1500 anytime minutes a month.
This 500 minute plan would be insanity for someone like myself.
Also, the 500 minute plan from T-Mo is $40/mo if you're not getting a Nexus but should you decide to grab the phone and the accompanying plan, you'll be paying $80/mo.
What is the logic here?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660654</id>
	<title>that is the question.</title>
	<author>hjf</author>
	<datestamp>1262686200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will it blend?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will it blend ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will it blend?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30665152</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>jmorris42</author>
	<datestamp>1262709300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; The issue with the App memory is that it sounds like a design decision made in a desperate attempt to accommodate some flaw in design or reduce costs.</p><p>Yup.  Go look at the detailed specs.  The CPU package has 512MB of flash, there is a 4GB MicroSD with the bulk of the OS almost filling it up.  The trick would be getting the current contents properly transferred to a larger card.  If it is just an normal filesystem that isn't hard (for anyone posting here at least) but if any of the SD DRM crap is being used it gets 'interesting.'  On a flagship smartphone 4GB is kinda pathetic.  It should have shipped with at least 8GB standard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; The issue with the App memory is that it sounds like a design decision made in a desperate attempt to accommodate some flaw in design or reduce costs.Yup .
Go look at the detailed specs .
The CPU package has 512MB of flash , there is a 4GB MicroSD with the bulk of the OS almost filling it up .
The trick would be getting the current contents properly transferred to a larger card .
If it is just an normal filesystem that is n't hard ( for anyone posting here at least ) but if any of the SD DRM crap is being used it gets 'interesting .
' On a flagship smartphone 4GB is kinda pathetic .
It should have shipped with at least 8GB standard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; The issue with the App memory is that it sounds like a design decision made in a desperate attempt to accommodate some flaw in design or reduce costs.Yup.
Go look at the detailed specs.
The CPU package has 512MB of flash, there is a 4GB MicroSD with the bulk of the OS almost filling it up.
The trick would be getting the current contents properly transferred to a larger card.
If it is just an normal filesystem that isn't hard (for anyone posting here at least) but if any of the SD DRM crap is being used it gets 'interesting.
'  On a flagship smartphone 4GB is kinda pathetic.
It should have shipped with at least 8GB standard.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661870</id>
	<title>Re:UMTS crippled on purpose? will not work on ATT</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1262691360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What it supports covers most of the world. Perhaps AT&amp;T is the that should be changing to conform to standards.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What it supports covers most of the world .
Perhaps AT&amp;T is the that should be changing to conform to standards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What it supports covers most of the world.
Perhaps AT&amp;T is the that should be changing to conform to standards.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660078</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661816</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>dr. chuck bunsen</author>
	<datestamp>1262691060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because if you turn it sideways it then has a screen resolution of 800X400<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because if you turn it sideways it then has a screen resolution of 800X400 : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because if you turn it sideways it then has a screen resolution of 800X400 :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661298</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660744</id>
	<title>App space explained</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262686500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here's how it works:
You have 512mb of memory on the device.
The Android system (which includes the OS, a cache partition and all the wallpapers, sounds, live backgrounds, etc.. that come with the device) seems to take up around 320mb in this version.
You have 190mb left.
The android system will start alerting you when you have 10mb of storage left.
You will have around 180mb for apps.
If you take into account that each app is usually under 1mb, you should be able to fit over 200 apps without using apps2sd. Most people will not come close to that number of installed apps. I don't think I passed that number in total app downloads in the 7 months that I own a G1.
You probably don't even have 200 different applications installed on your home computer.

The problem with storing apps on the SDcard is usually the speed of your memory card.
Most SDcards sold are class 2, and that's just too slow to run apps smoothly.
Usually people would get a class 6 card and format it to ext4 for optimal speed.

190mb may not be enough for everybody, but it's pretty damn good for now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's how it works : You have 512mb of memory on the device .
The Android system ( which includes the OS , a cache partition and all the wallpapers , sounds , live backgrounds , etc.. that come with the device ) seems to take up around 320mb in this version .
You have 190mb left .
The android system will start alerting you when you have 10mb of storage left .
You will have around 180mb for apps .
If you take into account that each app is usually under 1mb , you should be able to fit over 200 apps without using apps2sd .
Most people will not come close to that number of installed apps .
I do n't think I passed that number in total app downloads in the 7 months that I own a G1 .
You probably do n't even have 200 different applications installed on your home computer .
The problem with storing apps on the SDcard is usually the speed of your memory card .
Most SDcards sold are class 2 , and that 's just too slow to run apps smoothly .
Usually people would get a class 6 card and format it to ext4 for optimal speed .
190mb may not be enough for everybody , but it 's pretty damn good for now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's how it works:
You have 512mb of memory on the device.
The Android system (which includes the OS, a cache partition and all the wallpapers, sounds, live backgrounds, etc.. that come with the device) seems to take up around 320mb in this version.
You have 190mb left.
The android system will start alerting you when you have 10mb of storage left.
You will have around 180mb for apps.
If you take into account that each app is usually under 1mb, you should be able to fit over 200 apps without using apps2sd.
Most people will not come close to that number of installed apps.
I don't think I passed that number in total app downloads in the 7 months that I own a G1.
You probably don't even have 200 different applications installed on your home computer.
The problem with storing apps on the SDcard is usually the speed of your memory card.
Most SDcards sold are class 2, and that's just too slow to run apps smoothly.
Usually people would get a class 6 card and format it to ext4 for optimal speed.
190mb may not be enough for everybody, but it's pretty damn good for now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30667198</id>
	<title>Re:No Multitouch</title>
	<author>peppepz</author>
	<datestamp>1262774460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Like other Android phones, there is no multitouch implemented in the touchscreen interface.</p></div><p>And that's BETTER! Three-finger gestures? How many fingers remain in my hand to hold the phone? I've never seen a really useful multi-touch gesture, apart from pinch-zooming. Which still is very uncomfortable if you hold your phone with a single hand.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>For those who use their smartphones for gaming, this really limits the ability of the phone of as a gaming platform (with respect to touchscreen controls).  Gaming on the iPhone has really been taking off, although I still think hardware buttons work best for fast-paced and twitch gaming.</p></div><p>You say everything. Hardware buttons work best, and Android phones have them. (Well, most of them.)
By the way, the most successful touchscreen gaming device, Nintendo DS, has a resistive touchscreen and hasn't got multitouch.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like other Android phones , there is no multitouch implemented in the touchscreen interface.And that 's BETTER !
Three-finger gestures ?
How many fingers remain in my hand to hold the phone ?
I 've never seen a really useful multi-touch gesture , apart from pinch-zooming .
Which still is very uncomfortable if you hold your phone with a single hand.For those who use their smartphones for gaming , this really limits the ability of the phone of as a gaming platform ( with respect to touchscreen controls ) .
Gaming on the iPhone has really been taking off , although I still think hardware buttons work best for fast-paced and twitch gaming.You say everything .
Hardware buttons work best , and Android phones have them .
( Well , most of them .
) By the way , the most successful touchscreen gaming device , Nintendo DS , has a resistive touchscreen and has n't got multitouch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like other Android phones, there is no multitouch implemented in the touchscreen interface.And that's BETTER!
Three-finger gestures?
How many fingers remain in my hand to hold the phone?
I've never seen a really useful multi-touch gesture, apart from pinch-zooming.
Which still is very uncomfortable if you hold your phone with a single hand.For those who use their smartphones for gaming, this really limits the ability of the phone of as a gaming platform (with respect to touchscreen controls).
Gaming on the iPhone has really been taking off, although I still think hardware buttons work best for fast-paced and twitch gaming.You say everything.
Hardware buttons work best, and Android phones have them.
(Well, most of them.
)
By the way, the most successful touchscreen gaming device, Nintendo DS, has a resistive touchscreen and hasn't got multitouch.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663004</id>
	<title>Re:I was hoping for a new business model</title>
	<author>adisakp</author>
	<datestamp>1262696640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The problem is that my phone cost $300, the Apple Care costs $70 (and you need it because the battery is sealed into the phone, and won't last 2 years)</p></div><p>
The battery on iPods and iPhones are surprisingly easy to replace if you have to do it and the third party batteries are cheap.  I had a buddy take his iPod to the Apple store and they told him it would be $150 to check it out and replace battery if necessary.  I got the parts online including the disassembly tools for under $20 including shipping and replaced the battery in under 10 min.  They have <a href="http://www.idemigods.com/iPhone\_3G\_Replacement\_Battery\_p/iphn\_3g\_bttry.htm" title="idemigods.com">batteries for the iPhone 3G</a> [idemigods.com] as well for $13.90 and it comes with the tool to open it.  The 3GS third party battery isn't out yet but it will be in a year when people start needing them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is that my phone cost $ 300 , the Apple Care costs $ 70 ( and you need it because the battery is sealed into the phone , and wo n't last 2 years ) The battery on iPods and iPhones are surprisingly easy to replace if you have to do it and the third party batteries are cheap .
I had a buddy take his iPod to the Apple store and they told him it would be $ 150 to check it out and replace battery if necessary .
I got the parts online including the disassembly tools for under $ 20 including shipping and replaced the battery in under 10 min .
They have batteries for the iPhone 3G [ idemigods.com ] as well for $ 13.90 and it comes with the tool to open it .
The 3GS third party battery is n't out yet but it will be in a year when people start needing them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is that my phone cost $300, the Apple Care costs $70 (and you need it because the battery is sealed into the phone, and won't last 2 years)
The battery on iPods and iPhones are surprisingly easy to replace if you have to do it and the third party batteries are cheap.
I had a buddy take his iPod to the Apple store and they told him it would be $150 to check it out and replace battery if necessary.
I got the parts online including the disassembly tools for under $20 including shipping and replaced the battery in under 10 min.
They have batteries for the iPhone 3G [idemigods.com] as well for $13.90 and it comes with the tool to open it.
The 3GS third party battery isn't out yet but it will be in a year when people start needing them.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661366</id>
	<title>Re:I was hoping for a new business model</title>
	<author>Peganthyrus</author>
	<datestamp>1262689020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dude, I've been wanting an iPhone forever but couldn't get one because I wasn't willing to sign a deal with AT&amp;T for two years of an overpriced plan or shell out $900 to skeevygreymarketiphones.com. I just spent $560 (with tax) and <em>I will have a sexy smartphone with no contract in my hot little hands in a few days</em>.</p><p>This <em>is</em> a new business model: <em>actually letting the consumer buy the Awesome Phone directly with no carrier subsidy and lock-in</em></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , I 've been wanting an iPhone forever but could n't get one because I was n't willing to sign a deal with AT&amp;T for two years of an overpriced plan or shell out $ 900 to skeevygreymarketiphones.com .
I just spent $ 560 ( with tax ) and I will have a sexy smartphone with no contract in my hot little hands in a few days.This is a new business model : actually letting the consumer buy the Awesome Phone directly with no carrier subsidy and lock-in</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, I've been wanting an iPhone forever but couldn't get one because I wasn't willing to sign a deal with AT&amp;T for two years of an overpriced plan or shell out $900 to skeevygreymarketiphones.com.
I just spent $560 (with tax) and I will have a sexy smartphone with no contract in my hot little hands in a few days.This is a new business model: actually letting the consumer buy the Awesome Phone directly with no carrier subsidy and lock-in</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30665444</id>
	<title>Re:Ogg support - sweet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262711280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a Moto Droid running 2.0 - OGG is supported, a pleasant surprise as all my files are such and I could just drag them over.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Moto Droid running 2.0 - OGG is supported , a pleasant surprise as all my files are such and I could just drag them over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Moto Droid running 2.0 - OGG is supported, a pleasant surprise as all my files are such and I could just drag them over.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660456</id>
	<title>Apply the kindle demands to this device</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1262685360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Shouldn't you apply the kindle type of demands to this phone?</p><p>I refuse to use this device unless I can run Duke Nukem Forever on it!<br>I refuse to use any toilet that won't run quake, so why should I use a phone that won't?<br>If it won't directly connect to the Microlasion Frock phone service (with possibly 3 active users), what good is it?<br>After I use up my minutes, can I sell them to someone else?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Should n't you apply the kindle type of demands to this phone ? I refuse to use this device unless I can run Duke Nukem Forever on it ! I refuse to use any toilet that wo n't run quake , so why should I use a phone that wo n't ? If it wo n't directly connect to the Microlasion Frock phone service ( with possibly 3 active users ) , what good is it ? After I use up my minutes , can I sell them to someone else ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shouldn't you apply the kindle type of demands to this phone?I refuse to use this device unless I can run Duke Nukem Forever on it!I refuse to use any toilet that won't run quake, so why should I use a phone that won't?If it won't directly connect to the Microlasion Frock phone service (with possibly 3 active users), what good is it?After I use up my minutes, can I sell them to someone else?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662090</id>
	<title>Re:The unlocked phone comes at quite the premium.</title>
	<author>Reapman</author>
	<datestamp>1262692260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've heard this argument a lot, but it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me.  Is not the iPhone $200 on contract, and $600-$700 off contract (if you can get it?)</p><p>I bought a Treo 650 back in the day unlocked, and it seet me back about $600.. doesn't seem unreasonable to me (although likely out of my budget)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've heard this argument a lot , but it does n't seem to make a lot of sense to me .
Is not the iPhone $ 200 on contract , and $ 600- $ 700 off contract ( if you can get it ?
) I bought a Treo 650 back in the day unlocked , and it seet me back about $ 600.. does n't seem unreasonable to me ( although likely out of my budget )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've heard this argument a lot, but it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me.
Is not the iPhone $200 on contract, and $600-$700 off contract (if you can get it?
)I bought a Treo 650 back in the day unlocked, and it seet me back about $600.. doesn't seem unreasonable to me (although likely out of my budget)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660830</id>
	<title>190MB?  Are you JOKING?</title>
	<author>sneakyimp</author>
	<datestamp>1262686800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where's the source for this 190MB limitation?  That sounds ridiculous, and the article didn't cite where the information came from. I'm skeptical.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where 's the source for this 190MB limitation ?
That sounds ridiculous , and the article did n't cite where the information came from .
I 'm skeptical .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where's the source for this 190MB limitation?
That sounds ridiculous, and the article didn't cite where the information came from.
I'm skeptical.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660670</id>
	<title>Re:gaming?</title>
	<author>blamanj</author>
	<datestamp>1262686200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not overkill at all.  I have an iPhone 3G and the browsing experience is passable.  Using the NexusOne was like using a desktop computer almost.  The web pages snapped right on screen.  If I didn't have so many iPhone apps I like, I'd switch in a heartbeat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not overkill at all .
I have an iPhone 3G and the browsing experience is passable .
Using the NexusOne was like using a desktop computer almost .
The web pages snapped right on screen .
If I did n't have so many iPhone apps I like , I 'd switch in a heartbeat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not overkill at all.
I have an iPhone 3G and the browsing experience is passable.
Using the NexusOne was like using a desktop computer almost.
The web pages snapped right on screen.
If I didn't have so many iPhone apps I like, I'd switch in a heartbeat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660616</id>
	<title>Re:UMTS crippled on purpose? will not work on ATT</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262685960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TMobile US, and the majority of the world, put their 3G networks in the 1700/2100MHz bands. AT&amp;T, either due to limitations on the 2100 band when they first did their rollout, or just because they're AT&amp;T, use the 1900MHz band instead.</p><p>In this case, I'm siding with TMobile, as I prefer cellular devices that work in the majority of the world. Besides, I've seen (very nebulous) rumor that AT&amp;T will be transitioning in some 2100MHz band usage in places as part of their 4G plans.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TMobile US , and the majority of the world , put their 3G networks in the 1700/2100MHz bands .
AT&amp;T , either due to limitations on the 2100 band when they first did their rollout , or just because they 're AT&amp;T , use the 1900MHz band instead.In this case , I 'm siding with TMobile , as I prefer cellular devices that work in the majority of the world .
Besides , I 've seen ( very nebulous ) rumor that AT&amp;T will be transitioning in some 2100MHz band usage in places as part of their 4G plans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TMobile US, and the majority of the world, put their 3G networks in the 1700/2100MHz bands.
AT&amp;T, either due to limitations on the 2100 band when they first did their rollout, or just because they're AT&amp;T, use the 1900MHz band instead.In this case, I'm siding with TMobile, as I prefer cellular devices that work in the majority of the world.
Besides, I've seen (very nebulous) rumor that AT&amp;T will be transitioning in some 2100MHz band usage in places as part of their 4G plans.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662580</id>
	<title>Re:So basically...</title>
	<author>SpinyNorman</author>
	<datestamp>1262694780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I realize you were being sarcastic, but anyways the killer app is Google Maps Navigation : It's like buy a phone get a nice GPS for free, or maybe more to the point since you always carry your cell-phone you'll always also have a GPS in your pocket for getting directions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I realize you were being sarcastic , but anyways the killer app is Google Maps Navigation : It 's like buy a phone get a nice GPS for free , or maybe more to the point since you always carry your cell-phone you 'll always also have a GPS in your pocket for getting directions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I realize you were being sarcastic, but anyways the killer app is Google Maps Navigation : It's like buy a phone get a nice GPS for free, or maybe more to the point since you always carry your cell-phone you'll always also have a GPS in your pocket for getting directions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661584</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262689860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IIRC Google Voice != VoIP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IIRC Google Voice ! = VoIP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IIRC Google Voice != VoIP.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30665102</id>
	<title>Re:Choice, what a joke</title>
	<author>Mr2001</author>
	<datestamp>1262709000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>google has already announced the N1 on three of the four major US carriers. what other phone can claim that?</p></div><p>Blackberry? RAZR?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>google has already announced the N1 on three of the four major US carriers .
what other phone can claim that ? Blackberry ?
RAZR ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>google has already announced the N1 on three of the four major US carriers.
what other phone can claim that?Blackberry?
RAZR?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660296</id>
	<title>Re:I was hoping for a new business model</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262684880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <em>This Google phone will have essentially the same deal. You'll still be tied to a carrier, and it will be expensive to walk away.</em> </p><p>an important part of the announcement is that they are selling an unlocked, GSM phone for $530. sounds like a lot, but depending on the plan you chose you can end up saving money over the course of what would be a 2-year contract. if you are complaining about being tied to GSM networks, you can hardly blame google for that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This Google phone will have essentially the same deal .
You 'll still be tied to a carrier , and it will be expensive to walk away .
an important part of the announcement is that they are selling an unlocked , GSM phone for $ 530 .
sounds like a lot , but depending on the plan you chose you can end up saving money over the course of what would be a 2-year contract .
if you are complaining about being tied to GSM networks , you can hardly blame google for that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> This Google phone will have essentially the same deal.
You'll still be tied to a carrier, and it will be expensive to walk away.
an important part of the announcement is that they are selling an unlocked, GSM phone for $530.
sounds like a lot, but depending on the plan you chose you can end up saving money over the course of what would be a 2-year contract.
if you are complaining about being tied to GSM networks, you can hardly blame google for that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660592</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262685900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is being handled by Google, which means Google will continuously providing firmware/OS updates.</p><p>It is unlikely we will see firmware/OS updates on Droid, Eris, Hero or any other carrier branded Android phone, because the manufacturer has already made the sale to the carrier and has no monetary incentive to do so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is being handled by Google , which means Google will continuously providing firmware/OS updates.It is unlikely we will see firmware/OS updates on Droid , Eris , Hero or any other carrier branded Android phone , because the manufacturer has already made the sale to the carrier and has no monetary incentive to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is being handled by Google, which means Google will continuously providing firmware/OS updates.It is unlikely we will see firmware/OS updates on Droid, Eris, Hero or any other carrier branded Android phone, because the manufacturer has already made the sale to the carrier and has no monetary incentive to do so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663862</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>corerunner</author>
	<datestamp>1262700900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>3.5mm headphone adapter (first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design)</p></div><p>My HTC Eris has a normal headphone jack</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>3.5mm headphone adapter ( first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design ) My HTC Eris has a normal headphone jack</tokentext>
<sentencetext>3.5mm headphone adapter (first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design)My HTC Eris has a normal headphone jack
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660362</id>
	<title>Activate...?</title>
	<author>comm2k</author>
	<datestamp>1262685060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The "Activate my phone" link brings me back to google.com/phone. Is this yet another lame phone that needs activation (whatever that means) or do they mean activation of the SIM? I certainly hope it's the latter, as there is no sane reason why one would have to "activate" a phone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The " Activate my phone " link brings me back to google.com/phone .
Is this yet another lame phone that needs activation ( whatever that means ) or do they mean activation of the SIM ?
I certainly hope it 's the latter , as there is no sane reason why one would have to " activate " a phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The "Activate my phone" link brings me back to google.com/phone.
Is this yet another lame phone that needs activation (whatever that means) or do they mean activation of the SIM?
I certainly hope it's the latter, as there is no sane reason why one would have to "activate" a phone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30664662</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1262706420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>-Runs on something other than Verizon (unlike the Droid), namely ATT &amp; TMo.</p></div> </blockquote><p>

You can import the GSM version from Europe, it's called the Milestone. This will only work on T-Mo as they are the only US carrier to use the GSM 2100 or 900 MHz Frequencies.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>-Runs on something other than Verizon ( unlike the Droid ) , namely ATT &amp; TMo .
You can import the GSM version from Europe , it 's called the Milestone .
This will only work on T-Mo as they are the only US carrier to use the GSM 2100 or 900 MHz Frequencies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>-Runs on something other than Verizon (unlike the Droid), namely ATT &amp; TMo.
You can import the GSM version from Europe, it's called the Milestone.
This will only work on T-Mo as they are the only US carrier to use the GSM 2100 or 900 MHz Frequencies.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30666036</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262717220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And no multitouch.... that was a major WTF moment for me. I don't care how powerful it is, if you can only sense one point of the screen at a time, it's useless</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And no multitouch.... that was a major WTF moment for me .
I do n't care how powerful it is , if you can only sense one point of the screen at a time , it 's useless</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And no multitouch.... that was a major WTF moment for me.
I don't care how powerful it is, if you can only sense one point of the screen at a time, it's useless</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663378</id>
	<title>Re:Sorry, the Nexus One phone is not available...</title>
	<author>mgblst</author>
	<datestamp>1262698500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nice one Sherlock.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice one Sherlock .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nice one Sherlock.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30665056</id>
	<title>Sigh, we've been over this before.</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1262708820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Problem with US telco's not with Google.<blockquote><div><p>Throughout the Google event they seemed to drone on about choice. But the reality is that there isn't much choice.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Google is an international company based in California, HTC is an international company based in Taiwan. The Nexus One is intended to be sold internationally.<br> <br>

I can use the N1 on any Telco here in Australia as well as in Singapore, Malaysia and most of Europe because it uses the 2100 MHz frequency. The problem is that US telco's don't want to have a common frequency and why should HTC go to the extra expense of adding additional or more expensive transmitters to cater for a tiny percentage of the global market. If the US had a single common frequency then the N1 would most likely support it. This is not Google limiting your choice, this is the US telco's limiting your choice. Google and HTC made their decisions based on the global market, not the US market which means they chose to support the GSM 2100 and 900 MHz frequencies.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Problem with US telco 's not with Google.Throughout the Google event they seemed to drone on about choice .
But the reality is that there is n't much choice .
Google is an international company based in California , HTC is an international company based in Taiwan .
The Nexus One is intended to be sold internationally .
I can use the N1 on any Telco here in Australia as well as in Singapore , Malaysia and most of Europe because it uses the 2100 MHz frequency .
The problem is that US telco 's do n't want to have a common frequency and why should HTC go to the extra expense of adding additional or more expensive transmitters to cater for a tiny percentage of the global market .
If the US had a single common frequency then the N1 would most likely support it .
This is not Google limiting your choice , this is the US telco 's limiting your choice .
Google and HTC made their decisions based on the global market , not the US market which means they chose to support the GSM 2100 and 900 MHz frequencies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Problem with US telco's not with Google.Throughout the Google event they seemed to drone on about choice.
But the reality is that there isn't much choice.
Google is an international company based in California, HTC is an international company based in Taiwan.
The Nexus One is intended to be sold internationally.
I can use the N1 on any Telco here in Australia as well as in Singapore, Malaysia and most of Europe because it uses the 2100 MHz frequency.
The problem is that US telco's don't want to have a common frequency and why should HTC go to the extra expense of adding additional or more expensive transmitters to cater for a tiny percentage of the global market.
If the US had a single common frequency then the N1 would most likely support it.
This is not Google limiting your choice, this is the US telco's limiting your choice.
Google and HTC made their decisions based on the global market, not the US market which means they chose to support the GSM 2100 and 900 MHz frequencies.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660462</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262685420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The point is for you to use Google Voice and have only a voice plan as a backup.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The point is for you to use Google Voice and have only a voice plan as a backup .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The point is for you to use Google Voice and have only a voice plan as a backup.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30664706</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1262706600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>3.5mm headphone adapter (first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design)</p></div> </blockquote><p>

Small Nitpick. The HTC Hero was the first HTC Android phone to include a 3.5 mm headphone jack. The Hero has been out in Europe for some time but has only recently been introduced into the US as the Droid Eris.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>3.5mm headphone adapter ( first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design ) Small Nitpick .
The HTC Hero was the first HTC Android phone to include a 3.5 mm headphone jack .
The Hero has been out in Europe for some time but has only recently been introduced into the US as the Droid Eris .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>3.5mm headphone adapter (first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design) 

Small Nitpick.
The HTC Hero was the first HTC Android phone to include a 3.5 mm headphone jack.
The Hero has been out in Europe for some time but has only recently been introduced into the US as the Droid Eris.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660120</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262684340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>what really sets this thing apart from the Droid</i></p><p>It's on T-Mobile instead of Verizon (and it has some ridiculous app limitation), so now you get to choose which cellular company (of two) you want to bend over for. (Or for advanced users, get it unlocked and choose some other carrier using <a href="http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou\_us.shtml" title="gsmworld.com" rel="nofollow">GSM</a> [gsmworld.com] but the "unwashed masses" won't bother.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what really sets this thing apart from the DroidIt 's on T-Mobile instead of Verizon ( and it has some ridiculous app limitation ) , so now you get to choose which cellular company ( of two ) you want to bend over for .
( Or for advanced users , get it unlocked and choose some other carrier using GSM [ gsmworld.com ] but the " unwashed masses " wo n't bother .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what really sets this thing apart from the DroidIt's on T-Mobile instead of Verizon (and it has some ridiculous app limitation), so now you get to choose which cellular company (of two) you want to bend over for.
(Or for advanced users, get it unlocked and choose some other carrier using GSM [gsmworld.com] but the "unwashed masses" won't bother.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661394</id>
	<title>Re:I was hoping for a new business model</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262689140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Google Phone is not the same. It provides you the option of buying the device unlocked at an unsubsidized price. However, you are free to get the Google Phone and go to Boost Mobile, or whatever regional provider has a good network. You will end up saving money over the long run on the price of the monthly plan.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Google Phone is not the same .
It provides you the option of buying the device unlocked at an unsubsidized price .
However , you are free to get the Google Phone and go to Boost Mobile , or whatever regional provider has a good network .
You will end up saving money over the long run on the price of the monthly plan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Google Phone is not the same.
It provides you the option of buying the device unlocked at an unsubsidized price.
However, you are free to get the Google Phone and go to Boost Mobile, or whatever regional provider has a good network.
You will end up saving money over the long run on the price of the monthly plan.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660158</id>
	<title>Only $529!</title>
	<author>SandwhichMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1262684520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is anyone else sick of this contract subsidizing excuse? Yes, I realize you can't sell a phone like this for $25, but all these phones have an insane price if you buy them out of contract. I have a hard time believing these things cost anywhere near $500 to build. For example, the ipod touch starts at $200, which is obviously sold for a profit. Meanwhile, the iphone (a pretty damn similar device), is $500. Its not like you get a reduced monthly price if you bring your own phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is anyone else sick of this contract subsidizing excuse ?
Yes , I realize you ca n't sell a phone like this for $ 25 , but all these phones have an insane price if you buy them out of contract .
I have a hard time believing these things cost anywhere near $ 500 to build .
For example , the ipod touch starts at $ 200 , which is obviously sold for a profit .
Meanwhile , the iphone ( a pretty damn similar device ) , is $ 500 .
Its not like you get a reduced monthly price if you bring your own phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is anyone else sick of this contract subsidizing excuse?
Yes, I realize you can't sell a phone like this for $25, but all these phones have an insane price if you buy them out of contract.
I have a hard time believing these things cost anywhere near $500 to build.
For example, the ipod touch starts at $200, which is obviously sold for a profit.
Meanwhile, the iphone (a pretty damn similar device), is $500.
Its not like you get a reduced monthly price if you bring your own phone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660236</id>
	<title>Sorry, the Nexus One phone is not available...</title>
	<author>cfriedt</author>
	<datestamp>1262684700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It would seem that many people outside of the US, including Canada and Germany, upon visiting www.google.com/phone have been receiving an <a href="http://www.google.de/search?sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=Sorry,+the+Nexus+One+phone+is+not+available+in+your+country." title="google.de" rel="nofollow">error message</a> [google.de] saying "Sorry, the Nexus One phone is not available in your country."</p><p>I guess it doesn't go on sale in those countries until some undisclosed date.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would seem that many people outside of the US , including Canada and Germany , upon visiting www.google.com/phone have been receiving an error message [ google.de ] saying " Sorry , the Nexus One phone is not available in your country .
" I guess it does n't go on sale in those countries until some undisclosed date .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would seem that many people outside of the US, including Canada and Germany, upon visiting www.google.com/phone have been receiving an error message [google.de] saying "Sorry, the Nexus One phone is not available in your country.
"I guess it doesn't go on sale in those countries until some undisclosed date.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660542</id>
	<title>Google needs to work closer with carriers</title>
	<author>Fdisk81</author>
	<datestamp>1262685720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I got a G1 on launch day, I've been a T-Mobile customer for over 7 years now; however I called T-Mobile to see if they could upgrade my dated G1 to a Nexus One (I'm not due for an upgrade until the end of July, but T-Mobile is famous for cutting loyal customers a break when it comes to that) and they said that unfortunately the phone is being sold through Google and it's out of their hands.

I was pretty psyched about getting one, but there is no way I'm paying $530 for a phone; bottom line, right now I'm an unhappy Android User, Google Customer, T-Mobile Customer, and geek.  Instead I could have been $180 lighter and happy on all counts.

I guess I'm skipping the Nexus One and upgrading to whatever the next "must-have" is later in the year.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I got a G1 on launch day , I 've been a T-Mobile customer for over 7 years now ; however I called T-Mobile to see if they could upgrade my dated G1 to a Nexus One ( I 'm not due for an upgrade until the end of July , but T-Mobile is famous for cutting loyal customers a break when it comes to that ) and they said that unfortunately the phone is being sold through Google and it 's out of their hands .
I was pretty psyched about getting one , but there is no way I 'm paying $ 530 for a phone ; bottom line , right now I 'm an unhappy Android User , Google Customer , T-Mobile Customer , and geek .
Instead I could have been $ 180 lighter and happy on all counts .
I guess I 'm skipping the Nexus One and upgrading to whatever the next " must-have " is later in the year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got a G1 on launch day, I've been a T-Mobile customer for over 7 years now; however I called T-Mobile to see if they could upgrade my dated G1 to a Nexus One (I'm not due for an upgrade until the end of July, but T-Mobile is famous for cutting loyal customers a break when it comes to that) and they said that unfortunately the phone is being sold through Google and it's out of their hands.
I was pretty psyched about getting one, but there is no way I'm paying $530 for a phone; bottom line, right now I'm an unhappy Android User, Google Customer, T-Mobile Customer, and geek.
Instead I could have been $180 lighter and happy on all counts.
I guess I'm skipping the Nexus One and upgrading to whatever the next "must-have" is later in the year.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660874</id>
	<title>Re:Only $529!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262686920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Its not like you get a reduced monthly price if you bring your own phone.</p></div></blockquote><p>Actually, with T-Mobile you do (the only US carrier to currently have that option). Now whether the difference in price between the two makes up the difference is another question altogether.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its not like you get a reduced monthly price if you bring your own phone.Actually , with T-Mobile you do ( the only US carrier to currently have that option ) .
Now whether the difference in price between the two makes up the difference is another question altogether .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its not like you get a reduced monthly price if you bring your own phone.Actually, with T-Mobile you do (the only US carrier to currently have that option).
Now whether the difference in price between the two makes up the difference is another question altogether.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660144</id>
	<title>Visual voicemail w/ transcript</title>
	<author>Rufus211</author>
	<datestamp>1262684460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The demo page of the voicemail app is extremely shiny.  Google voice transcription of the voicemail shown in real-time with playing the voicemail.</p><p>Then again I can't remember the last time I got a voice mail, so who actually cares.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The demo page of the voicemail app is extremely shiny .
Google voice transcription of the voicemail shown in real-time with playing the voicemail.Then again I ca n't remember the last time I got a voice mail , so who actually cares .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The demo page of the voicemail app is extremely shiny.
Google voice transcription of the voicemail shown in real-time with playing the voicemail.Then again I can't remember the last time I got a voice mail, so who actually cares.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30675584</id>
	<title>update for you</title>
	<author>KingPin27</author>
	<datestamp>1262775480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seems a good proxy service is worth its weight in gold.  A Canadian friend of mine just ordered after using <a href="http://www.proxz.com/" title="proxz.com" rel="nofollow">PROXZ</a> [proxz.com].  Order completed and shipped already to a U.S address.  Unknown if he could have shipped to a Canadian address.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems a good proxy service is worth its weight in gold .
A Canadian friend of mine just ordered after using PROXZ [ proxz.com ] .
Order completed and shipped already to a U.S address .
Unknown if he could have shipped to a Canadian address .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems a good proxy service is worth its weight in gold.
A Canadian friend of mine just ordered after using PROXZ [proxz.com].
Order completed and shipped already to a U.S address.
Unknown if he could have shipped to a Canadian address.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660472</id>
	<title>is it cool to buy electronics unseen?</title>
	<author>alen</author>
	<datestamp>1262685480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google wants $530 for their phone, you can't play with it in a store to see how it is and the website in typical Google fashion has a bare minimum of information. i can see the fanboys buying these, but the general public wants to see what they are buying first.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google wants $ 530 for their phone , you ca n't play with it in a store to see how it is and the website in typical Google fashion has a bare minimum of information .
i can see the fanboys buying these , but the general public wants to see what they are buying first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google wants $530 for their phone, you can't play with it in a store to see how it is and the website in typical Google fashion has a bare minimum of information.
i can see the fanboys buying these, but the general public wants to see what they are buying first.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661088</id>
	<title>The Future is Here</title>
	<author>Godman</author>
	<datestamp>1262688000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The technology exists to either completely destroy, or at least severely reduce, the mobile paradigm that exists today. Eventually wireless internet will be ubiquitous, or near enough for most purposes. The actual bandwidth needed to send a voice communication is not all that extreme (Ass-pulled number: 200kbs?). As advances in technology lead us to faster and more widespread coverage, is it not conceivable that all phones could simply use a VOIP system for communication?</p><p>Such a system will never happen, or will be many many years in the future though, despite the fact that the knowledge and tech is already there (maybe the infrastructure isn't). The mobile carriers in the US are too focused on charging for set amounts of minutes and will be loathe to give up their cash cow. I can never see Sprint, AT&amp;T, Verizon, T-Mobile, or anybody voluntarily releasing any kind of phone that will allow you to make all the calls you want as long as you have internet access. Tethering technology for phones has been here for years and yet such things are not commonplace. I owned a Razr v3 way back when they were the new hot thing, and Sprint wanted me to pay some ridiculous monthly fee to tether it, despite selling me unlimited data for 15 bucks a month. The phone could do it, my laptop could do it, but sprint had some lock on the actual software of the phone preventing me from doing it and wanted to sell me the ability to do something with my own stuff. Imagine if you bought a monitor and half of it was blank unless you paid the manufacturer a monthly fee. Its money grabbing extortion, nothing more.</p><p>Its always fun to be surrounded by the most amazing things ever seen on earth and know that the buggy whip manufacturers of the world are standing in the way of progress. Imagine where we could be in a world where technology is used to its fullest extent and people were less focused on the convenience of doing business as usual for profit.</p><p>People love their money too much and do not want progress. This is why change is almost always due to a revolutionary technology brought in by a newcomer, not motivated by an already established giant of industry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The technology exists to either completely destroy , or at least severely reduce , the mobile paradigm that exists today .
Eventually wireless internet will be ubiquitous , or near enough for most purposes .
The actual bandwidth needed to send a voice communication is not all that extreme ( Ass-pulled number : 200kbs ? ) .
As advances in technology lead us to faster and more widespread coverage , is it not conceivable that all phones could simply use a VOIP system for communication ? Such a system will never happen , or will be many many years in the future though , despite the fact that the knowledge and tech is already there ( maybe the infrastructure is n't ) .
The mobile carriers in the US are too focused on charging for set amounts of minutes and will be loathe to give up their cash cow .
I can never see Sprint , AT&amp;T , Verizon , T-Mobile , or anybody voluntarily releasing any kind of phone that will allow you to make all the calls you want as long as you have internet access .
Tethering technology for phones has been here for years and yet such things are not commonplace .
I owned a Razr v3 way back when they were the new hot thing , and Sprint wanted me to pay some ridiculous monthly fee to tether it , despite selling me unlimited data for 15 bucks a month .
The phone could do it , my laptop could do it , but sprint had some lock on the actual software of the phone preventing me from doing it and wanted to sell me the ability to do something with my own stuff .
Imagine if you bought a monitor and half of it was blank unless you paid the manufacturer a monthly fee .
Its money grabbing extortion , nothing more.Its always fun to be surrounded by the most amazing things ever seen on earth and know that the buggy whip manufacturers of the world are standing in the way of progress .
Imagine where we could be in a world where technology is used to its fullest extent and people were less focused on the convenience of doing business as usual for profit.People love their money too much and do not want progress .
This is why change is almost always due to a revolutionary technology brought in by a newcomer , not motivated by an already established giant of industry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The technology exists to either completely destroy, or at least severely reduce, the mobile paradigm that exists today.
Eventually wireless internet will be ubiquitous, or near enough for most purposes.
The actual bandwidth needed to send a voice communication is not all that extreme (Ass-pulled number: 200kbs?).
As advances in technology lead us to faster and more widespread coverage, is it not conceivable that all phones could simply use a VOIP system for communication?Such a system will never happen, or will be many many years in the future though, despite the fact that the knowledge and tech is already there (maybe the infrastructure isn't).
The mobile carriers in the US are too focused on charging for set amounts of minutes and will be loathe to give up their cash cow.
I can never see Sprint, AT&amp;T, Verizon, T-Mobile, or anybody voluntarily releasing any kind of phone that will allow you to make all the calls you want as long as you have internet access.
Tethering technology for phones has been here for years and yet such things are not commonplace.
I owned a Razr v3 way back when they were the new hot thing, and Sprint wanted me to pay some ridiculous monthly fee to tether it, despite selling me unlimited data for 15 bucks a month.
The phone could do it, my laptop could do it, but sprint had some lock on the actual software of the phone preventing me from doing it and wanted to sell me the ability to do something with my own stuff.
Imagine if you bought a monitor and half of it was blank unless you paid the manufacturer a monthly fee.
Its money grabbing extortion, nothing more.Its always fun to be surrounded by the most amazing things ever seen on earth and know that the buggy whip manufacturers of the world are standing in the way of progress.
Imagine where we could be in a world where technology is used to its fullest extent and people were less focused on the convenience of doing business as usual for profit.People love their money too much and do not want progress.
This is why change is almost always due to a revolutionary technology brought in by a newcomer, not motivated by an already established giant of industry.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660168</id>
	<title>App Space</title>
	<author>prometx42</author>
	<datestamp>1262684520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really wonder why Android OS so disdains opening up external/more memory for the storage of apps. It seems like this would be such a strong selling point. Since they are adhering to that "policy" so closely, I suppose there is some strong reasoning behind it (security "sandboxing" of some sort?). In my opinion, this prejudices consumers toward the iPhone and also impels people more toward rooting their devices to get that, obviously strongly desired, app-space control.</p><p>I have the G1, with which I am wholly satisfied, and not all that hungry to "trade-up" from,  especially with the "super non-wowing power" of such limited app storage space, on "groundbreaking" devices. I mean, 190MB of total app space, given the average smartphone app size, I guess isn't an absolute deal breaker, but why the cap man?</p><p>This seems like it is limiting the impact of the Android Market and Android developers to reach end users as well. This seems like a real strategic weak point to me; seem so to anyone else?</p><p>If you love the Android, set it free; if it comes back it was meant to be...(If it comes back as an evil, hacked, perversion of its former self...also, probably, meant to be...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really wonder why Android OS so disdains opening up external/more memory for the storage of apps .
It seems like this would be such a strong selling point .
Since they are adhering to that " policy " so closely , I suppose there is some strong reasoning behind it ( security " sandboxing " of some sort ? ) .
In my opinion , this prejudices consumers toward the iPhone and also impels people more toward rooting their devices to get that , obviously strongly desired , app-space control.I have the G1 , with which I am wholly satisfied , and not all that hungry to " trade-up " from , especially with the " super non-wowing power " of such limited app storage space , on " groundbreaking " devices .
I mean , 190MB of total app space , given the average smartphone app size , I guess is n't an absolute deal breaker , but why the cap man ? This seems like it is limiting the impact of the Android Market and Android developers to reach end users as well .
This seems like a real strategic weak point to me ; seem so to anyone else ? If you love the Android , set it free ; if it comes back it was meant to be... ( If it comes back as an evil , hacked , perversion of its former self...also , probably , meant to be... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really wonder why Android OS so disdains opening up external/more memory for the storage of apps.
It seems like this would be such a strong selling point.
Since they are adhering to that "policy" so closely, I suppose there is some strong reasoning behind it (security "sandboxing" of some sort?).
In my opinion, this prejudices consumers toward the iPhone and also impels people more toward rooting their devices to get that, obviously strongly desired, app-space control.I have the G1, with which I am wholly satisfied, and not all that hungry to "trade-up" from,  especially with the "super non-wowing power" of such limited app storage space, on "groundbreaking" devices.
I mean, 190MB of total app space, given the average smartphone app size, I guess isn't an absolute deal breaker, but why the cap man?This seems like it is limiting the impact of the Android Market and Android developers to reach end users as well.
This seems like a real strategic weak point to me; seem so to anyone else?If you love the Android, set it free; if it comes back it was meant to be...(If it comes back as an evil, hacked, perversion of its former self...also, probably, meant to be...)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661808</id>
	<title>Re:App Storage</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262691000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No its a big deal.  A very big deal.  Its a show stopper for alot of people.  Android apps are smaller because they have to be.  Duh.  They cannot have the same functionality as iPhone apps either.  For example the Slacker Android version does much less than their iPhone version because of this limitation.  Hard to imagine how Google screwed this up.  Yes you can root it but hardly anyone does and rooting has its own problems.  Also rooting does not mean all apps can be stored on SD and/or work anyway.  Try your lame excuses on the teenagers at Engadget not on Slashdot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No its a big deal .
A very big deal .
Its a show stopper for alot of people .
Android apps are smaller because they have to be .
Duh. They can not have the same functionality as iPhone apps either .
For example the Slacker Android version does much less than their iPhone version because of this limitation .
Hard to imagine how Google screwed this up .
Yes you can root it but hardly anyone does and rooting has its own problems .
Also rooting does not mean all apps can be stored on SD and/or work anyway .
Try your lame excuses on the teenagers at Engadget not on Slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No its a big deal.
A very big deal.
Its a show stopper for alot of people.
Android apps are smaller because they have to be.
Duh.  They cannot have the same functionality as iPhone apps either.
For example the Slacker Android version does much less than their iPhone version because of this limitation.
Hard to imagine how Google screwed this up.
Yes you can root it but hardly anyone does and rooting has its own problems.
Also rooting does not mean all apps can be stored on SD and/or work anyway.
Try your lame excuses on the teenagers at Engadget not on Slashdot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30665236</id>
	<title>Re:So much for offline GPS</title>
	<author>FictionPimp</author>
	<datestamp>1262709840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You realize you can have a map app on a android phone that has 16 gigs of map data. Only the executable has to fit in that tiny space.</p><p>It is a problem yes, but not a major problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You realize you can have a map app on a android phone that has 16 gigs of map data .
Only the executable has to fit in that tiny space.It is a problem yes , but not a major problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You realize you can have a map app on a android phone that has 16 gigs of map data.
Only the executable has to fit in that tiny space.It is a problem yes, but not a major problem.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660008</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262683980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"the 16 GB of storage on the iPhone is typically filled with music".</p><p>Ummmm, do users of other smartphones not play music? Is there something special about the iPhone that requires users to fill up the space with music, or videos? Is it just too darned easy to load your iPhone with music? I really have no idea what this means.</p><p>FWIW, I'm currently using 1.57 GB of storage for apps on my iPhone. Of course, I don't think that's *all* due to the apps -- some of it is user file storage, which is handled app-by-app and which I assume is counted in the "app" section of the iPhone capacity meter in iTunes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" the 16 GB of storage on the iPhone is typically filled with music " .Ummmm , do users of other smartphones not play music ?
Is there something special about the iPhone that requires users to fill up the space with music , or videos ?
Is it just too darned easy to load your iPhone with music ?
I really have no idea what this means.FWIW , I 'm currently using 1.57 GB of storage for apps on my iPhone .
Of course , I do n't think that 's * all * due to the apps -- some of it is user file storage , which is handled app-by-app and which I assume is counted in the " app " section of the iPhone capacity meter in iTunes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"the 16 GB of storage on the iPhone is typically filled with music".Ummmm, do users of other smartphones not play music?
Is there something special about the iPhone that requires users to fill up the space with music, or videos?
Is it just too darned easy to load your iPhone with music?
I really have no idea what this means.FWIW, I'm currently using 1.57 GB of storage for apps on my iPhone.
Of course, I don't think that's *all* due to the apps -- some of it is user file storage, which is handled app-by-app and which I assume is counted in the "app" section of the iPhone capacity meter in iTunes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660336</id>
	<title>Re:UMTS crippled on purpose? will not work on ATT</title>
	<author>faedle</author>
	<datestamp>1262685000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh, and it's worth pointing out (as AT&amp;T insists in their commercials against Verizon) that 2G should be good enough for anybody, and the Nexus One will work on AT&amp;T's 2G network that they think is so awesome.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , and it 's worth pointing out ( as AT&amp;T insists in their commercials against Verizon ) that 2G should be good enough for anybody , and the Nexus One will work on AT&amp;T 's 2G network that they think is so awesome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, and it's worth pointing out (as AT&amp;T insists in their commercials against Verizon) that 2G should be good enough for anybody, and the Nexus One will work on AT&amp;T's 2G network that they think is so awesome.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661140</id>
	<title>It's $279 for existing Tmobile customer renewals</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262688180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The $179 subsidized price is only for new Tmobile customers.<br>Existing customers, even customers who have completed their latest 2-year contract, get a bait-and-switch handset price change to $279 halfway through the purchase process on the google/phone website.<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The $ 179 subsidized price is only for new Tmobile customers.Existing customers , even customers who have completed their latest 2-year contract , get a bait-and-switch handset price change to $ 279 halfway through the purchase process on the google/phone website .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>The $179 subsidized price is only for new Tmobile customers.Existing customers, even customers who have completed their latest 2-year contract, get a bait-and-switch handset price change to $279 halfway through the purchase process on the google/phone website.
 </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30666364</id>
	<title>it is called Nexus...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262720280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>was named NEXUS because it is the nexus between the evil empire and all of your stupidly controlled little brains. Jajaja better integrated search. Better integrated so they can monopolize u and made a meat ball out of all of you. Freeruner rules. Ahh i can even install android if i please. We hackers love to even have electronic diagrams. But that is us, the superior intelligence pf the planet<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P. You are all doomed to be controlled.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>was named NEXUS because it is the nexus between the evil empire and all of your stupidly controlled little brains .
Jajaja better integrated search .
Better integrated so they can monopolize u and made a meat ball out of all of you .
Freeruner rules .
Ahh i can even install android if i please .
We hackers love to even have electronic diagrams .
But that is us , the superior intelligence pf the planet : P. You are all doomed to be controlled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>was named NEXUS because it is the nexus between the evil empire and all of your stupidly controlled little brains.
Jajaja better integrated search.
Better integrated so they can monopolize u and made a meat ball out of all of you.
Freeruner rules.
Ahh i can even install android if i please.
We hackers love to even have electronic diagrams.
But that is us, the superior intelligence pf the planet :P. You are all doomed to be controlled.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30669702</id>
	<title>Re:I was hoping for a new business model</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262794380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the Apple Care costs $70 (and you need it because the battery is sealed into the phone, and won't last 2 years)</p></div><p>That's funny.... I've had my iPhone for about 2.5 years and the battery is still fine.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the Apple Care costs $ 70 ( and you need it because the battery is sealed into the phone , and wo n't last 2 years ) That 's funny.... I 've had my iPhone for about 2.5 years and the battery is still fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the Apple Care costs $70 (and you need it because the battery is sealed into the phone, and won't last 2 years)That's funny.... I've had my iPhone for about 2.5 years and the battery is still fine.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30668994</id>
	<title>Is this the news we were looking for?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262790780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about a plan that does not cost and arm and a leg.   These devices are cool and can be a great way to stay connected; however, what do you do if you have a family who also wants to stay connected?   There is no way I could justify the cost to get each member of my family one of these phones or the service plans that are needed.   I have teenagers who want iphones, laptops, ipods, and they want to be able to send messages and surf the web (like other class mates).    They also want cable TV, netflix, and a host of other services which are nothing more than applications running on the net.   Honestly, in the USA, network connectivity sucks and it costs way too much!!!!</p><p>This guy hits it on the head:<br><a href="http://williamfink.blogspot.com/" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://williamfink.blogspot.com/</a> [blogspot.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about a plan that does not cost and arm and a leg .
These devices are cool and can be a great way to stay connected ; however , what do you do if you have a family who also wants to stay connected ?
There is no way I could justify the cost to get each member of my family one of these phones or the service plans that are needed .
I have teenagers who want iphones , laptops , ipods , and they want to be able to send messages and surf the web ( like other class mates ) .
They also want cable TV , netflix , and a host of other services which are nothing more than applications running on the net .
Honestly , in the USA , network connectivity sucks and it costs way too much ! ! !
! This guy hits it on the head : http : //williamfink.blogspot.com/ [ blogspot.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about a plan that does not cost and arm and a leg.
These devices are cool and can be a great way to stay connected; however, what do you do if you have a family who also wants to stay connected?
There is no way I could justify the cost to get each member of my family one of these phones or the service plans that are needed.
I have teenagers who want iphones, laptops, ipods, and they want to be able to send messages and surf the web (like other class mates).
They also want cable TV, netflix, and a host of other services which are nothing more than applications running on the net.
Honestly, in the USA, network connectivity sucks and it costs way too much!!!
!This guy hits it on the head:http://williamfink.blogspot.com/ [blogspot.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661770</id>
	<title>App Storage FUD</title>
	<author>oneiron</author>
	<datestamp>1262690820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"On the Nexus One, only 190 megabytes of its total 4.5 gigabytes of memory is allowed for storing apps. On the $199 iPhone, nearly all of the 16 gigabytes of memory can be used for apps."</i>

It's a bit disheartening to see garbage FUD like this make its way into a slashdot summary.  It's been known for quite some time that the Android OS allow developers to store app resources on the SD card.  A number of Android apps do this, already.  An official update to make it easier for developers to do what they're already doing is in the works.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" On the Nexus One , only 190 megabytes of its total 4.5 gigabytes of memory is allowed for storing apps .
On the $ 199 iPhone , nearly all of the 16 gigabytes of memory can be used for apps .
" It 's a bit disheartening to see garbage FUD like this make its way into a slashdot summary .
It 's been known for quite some time that the Android OS allow developers to store app resources on the SD card .
A number of Android apps do this , already .
An official update to make it easier for developers to do what they 're already doing is in the works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"On the Nexus One, only 190 megabytes of its total 4.5 gigabytes of memory is allowed for storing apps.
On the $199 iPhone, nearly all of the 16 gigabytes of memory can be used for apps.
"

It's a bit disheartening to see garbage FUD like this make its way into a slashdot summary.
It's been known for quite some time that the Android OS allow developers to store app resources on the SD card.
A number of Android apps do this, already.
An official update to make it easier for developers to do what they're already doing is in the works.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30665588</id>
	<title>Australia</title>
	<author>kingturkey</author>
	<datestamp>1262712480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ok so how to get one in Australia? The ones on eBay are rather overpriced<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-(. It'd be nice if Google would just ship them here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok so how to get one in Australia ?
The ones on eBay are rather overpriced : - ( .
It 'd be nice if Google would just ship them here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok so how to get one in Australia?
The ones on eBay are rather overpriced :-(.
It'd be nice if Google would just ship them here.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661624</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262690100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That comment makes no sense.  You have knowledge of what every iPhone user does?  I have 2gb of apps on mine.  The amount of app space is very significant because you can't install many apps and some of the larger apps you find on the iPhone cannot work on Android.  Its a bug deal no matter how you try to rationalize it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That comment makes no sense .
You have knowledge of what every iPhone user does ?
I have 2gb of apps on mine .
The amount of app space is very significant because you ca n't install many apps and some of the larger apps you find on the iPhone can not work on Android .
Its a bug deal no matter how you try to rationalize it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That comment makes no sense.
You have knowledge of what every iPhone user does?
I have 2gb of apps on mine.
The amount of app space is very significant because you can't install many apps and some of the larger apps you find on the iPhone cannot work on Android.
Its a bug deal no matter how you try to rationalize it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660018</id>
	<title>I was hoping for a new business model</title>
	<author>astrashe</author>
	<datestamp>1262684040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm pretty underwhelmed by the announcement.</p><p>I have an iPhone, I live in NYC, and my network is terrible.  That's exactly the kind of problem markets are supposed to solve, right?  I should ditch AT&amp;T and go with a competitor.</p><p>The problem is that my phone cost $300, the Apple Care costs $70 (and you need it because the battery is sealed into the phone, and won't last 2 years), and there's a $175 early termination fee.  So walking away is pretty expensive.</p><p>This Google phone will have essentially the same deal.  You'll still be tied to a carrier, and it will be expensive to walk away.  Maybe Verizon or T-Mobile will be a lot better than AT&amp;T.  Or maybe when many millions of people buy these data hungry phones in a short period of time, their networks will sink just like AT&amp;T's has.</p><p>We need to commoditize wireless bandwidth.  We want a universe in which we buy our phones directly, we own them, and we can choose which networks to plug them into.  And if a network is bad, we have to be free to walk.</p><p>These walled gardens are always going to give us crummy throughput, unreliable service, and restrictions on the apps we can run.  Just swapping one corporation (T-Mobile) for another (AT&amp;T) isn't going to fix anything.  Maybe they'll be marginally better.  But without a real market operating, and the ability for us to move around in response to the quality of service we receive, we'll never get a good wireless network.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm pretty underwhelmed by the announcement.I have an iPhone , I live in NYC , and my network is terrible .
That 's exactly the kind of problem markets are supposed to solve , right ?
I should ditch AT&amp;T and go with a competitor.The problem is that my phone cost $ 300 , the Apple Care costs $ 70 ( and you need it because the battery is sealed into the phone , and wo n't last 2 years ) , and there 's a $ 175 early termination fee .
So walking away is pretty expensive.This Google phone will have essentially the same deal .
You 'll still be tied to a carrier , and it will be expensive to walk away .
Maybe Verizon or T-Mobile will be a lot better than AT&amp;T .
Or maybe when many millions of people buy these data hungry phones in a short period of time , their networks will sink just like AT&amp;T 's has.We need to commoditize wireless bandwidth .
We want a universe in which we buy our phones directly , we own them , and we can choose which networks to plug them into .
And if a network is bad , we have to be free to walk.These walled gardens are always going to give us crummy throughput , unreliable service , and restrictions on the apps we can run .
Just swapping one corporation ( T-Mobile ) for another ( AT&amp;T ) is n't going to fix anything .
Maybe they 'll be marginally better .
But without a real market operating , and the ability for us to move around in response to the quality of service we receive , we 'll never get a good wireless network .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm pretty underwhelmed by the announcement.I have an iPhone, I live in NYC, and my network is terrible.
That's exactly the kind of problem markets are supposed to solve, right?
I should ditch AT&amp;T and go with a competitor.The problem is that my phone cost $300, the Apple Care costs $70 (and you need it because the battery is sealed into the phone, and won't last 2 years), and there's a $175 early termination fee.
So walking away is pretty expensive.This Google phone will have essentially the same deal.
You'll still be tied to a carrier, and it will be expensive to walk away.
Maybe Verizon or T-Mobile will be a lot better than AT&amp;T.
Or maybe when many millions of people buy these data hungry phones in a short period of time, their networks will sink just like AT&amp;T's has.We need to commoditize wireless bandwidth.
We want a universe in which we buy our phones directly, we own them, and we can choose which networks to plug them into.
And if a network is bad, we have to be free to walk.These walled gardens are always going to give us crummy throughput, unreliable service, and restrictions on the apps we can run.
Just swapping one corporation (T-Mobile) for another (AT&amp;T) isn't going to fix anything.
Maybe they'll be marginally better.
But without a real market operating, and the ability for us to move around in response to the quality of service we receive, we'll never get a good wireless network.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660346</id>
	<title>Re:world phone coming soon?</title>
	<author>MemoryDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1262685060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have voice enabled on my hacked hero, dont expect too much, it is a hit or miss thing, 60\% it works perfectly 40\% it does not. I use it rather seldom because I personally think, typing most searches is faster.<br>(You have to speak, then the data is transferred to google which also takes time)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have voice enabled on my hacked hero , dont expect too much , it is a hit or miss thing , 60 \ % it works perfectly 40 \ % it does not .
I use it rather seldom because I personally think , typing most searches is faster .
( You have to speak , then the data is transferred to google which also takes time )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have voice enabled on my hacked hero, dont expect too much, it is a hit or miss thing, 60\% it works perfectly 40\% it does not.
I use it rather seldom because I personally think, typing most searches is faster.
(You have to speak, then the data is transferred to google which also takes time)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662004</id>
	<title>Regarding the 190MB available for apps.</title>
	<author>TodLiebeck</author>
	<datestamp>1262691780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, Android currently only lets you install application packages on internal memory.  Application developers know this, so there's a major effort made to keep the application footprint small, and then have the applications download and store additional resources on the SD card, which has no such limitations.  As an example, a game would store its levels/media on the SD card.  Or in the case of an offline GPS app, the map data would be stored on the SD card.</p><p>With my Droid, I've yet to get anywhere close to this limitation, and I'm always on the hunt for neat apps on the market.   I currently have 162MB free (I believe it originally had 250MB available).</p><p>Yes, it's not inconceivable that you'll run into this limitation, but at the same time, it doesn't come up all that often.  Don't be concerned that your iPhone is using 3GB for app storage...on an Android device those apps would be putting 95\% of their data on the SD card.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , Android currently only lets you install application packages on internal memory .
Application developers know this , so there 's a major effort made to keep the application footprint small , and then have the applications download and store additional resources on the SD card , which has no such limitations .
As an example , a game would store its levels/media on the SD card .
Or in the case of an offline GPS app , the map data would be stored on the SD card.With my Droid , I 've yet to get anywhere close to this limitation , and I 'm always on the hunt for neat apps on the market .
I currently have 162MB free ( I believe it originally had 250MB available ) .Yes , it 's not inconceivable that you 'll run into this limitation , but at the same time , it does n't come up all that often .
Do n't be concerned that your iPhone is using 3GB for app storage...on an Android device those apps would be putting 95 \ % of their data on the SD card .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, Android currently only lets you install application packages on internal memory.
Application developers know this, so there's a major effort made to keep the application footprint small, and then have the applications download and store additional resources on the SD card, which has no such limitations.
As an example, a game would store its levels/media on the SD card.
Or in the case of an offline GPS app, the map data would be stored on the SD card.With my Droid, I've yet to get anywhere close to this limitation, and I'm always on the hunt for neat apps on the market.
I currently have 162MB free (I believe it originally had 250MB available).Yes, it's not inconceivable that you'll run into this limitation, but at the same time, it doesn't come up all that often.
Don't be concerned that your iPhone is using 3GB for app storage...on an Android device those apps would be putting 95\% of their data on the SD card.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661188</id>
	<title>Thats how it started</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1262688420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>"640k should be enough for anyone" - Bill Gates, 1981<br><br>"190M should be enough for anyone" - Sergei Brin, 2010<br><br>Be afraid, be very afraid</htmltext>
<tokenext>" 640k should be enough for anyone " - Bill Gates , 1981 " 190M should be enough for anyone " - Sergei Brin , 2010Be afraid , be very afraid</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"640k should be enough for anyone" - Bill Gates, 1981"190M should be enough for anyone" - Sergei Brin, 2010Be afraid, be very afraid</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30668104</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262784360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually the Hero was the first with a 3.5mm jack.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually the Hero was the first with a 3.5mm jack .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually the Hero was the first with a 3.5mm jack.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663766</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>dmesg0</author>
	<datestamp>1262700300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><ul>
	<li>3.7&quot; 400x800 AMOLED display</li></ul></div><p>
It's 480x800 (WVGA), not 400x800.  The same amazing display as in Samsung Omnia II (i8000), any LCD phone screen looks much worse (indoors at least).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>3.7 " 400x800 AMOLED display It 's 480x800 ( WVGA ) , not 400x800 .
The same amazing display as in Samsung Omnia II ( i8000 ) , any LCD phone screen looks much worse ( indoors at least ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
	3.7" 400x800 AMOLED display
It's 480x800 (WVGA), not 400x800.
The same amazing display as in Samsung Omnia II (i8000), any LCD phone screen looks much worse (indoors at least).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663752</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>MeNeXT</author>
	<datestamp>1262700240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I too have an iPhone and I regret it since I purchased it. Limited bluetooth functionality. Needs iTunes to sync. 32GB goes mostly unused because it's terrible at syncing.</p><p>I do have almost 3,000 pics which I basically can't share through my phone.......</p><p>I had this functionality on my Nokia E61. I feel the iPhone is limited by design. No I don't need an app for that....8^)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I too have an iPhone and I regret it since I purchased it .
Limited bluetooth functionality .
Needs iTunes to sync .
32GB goes mostly unused because it 's terrible at syncing.I do have almost 3,000 pics which I basically ca n't share through my phone.......I had this functionality on my Nokia E61 .
I feel the iPhone is limited by design .
No I do n't need an app for that....8 ^ )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I too have an iPhone and I regret it since I purchased it.
Limited bluetooth functionality.
Needs iTunes to sync.
32GB goes mostly unused because it's terrible at syncing.I do have almost 3,000 pics which I basically can't share through my phone.......I had this functionality on my Nokia E61.
I feel the iPhone is limited by design.
No I don't need an app for that....8^)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660410</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30664644</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262706300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, it's not compatible with AT&amp;T's 3G network, so while it runs on AT&amp;T, it doesn't do so *well*.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , it 's not compatible with AT&amp;T 's 3G network , so while it runs on AT&amp;T , it does n't do so * well * .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, it's not compatible with AT&amp;T's 3G network, so while it runs on AT&amp;T, it doesn't do so *well*.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659940</id>
	<title>obligatory meh</title>
	<author>kirkb</author>
	<datestamp>1262683740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No LTE.  Less space than a drobo.  Meh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No LTE .
Less space than a drobo .
Meh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No LTE.
Less space than a drobo.
Meh.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660420</id>
	<title>Read the fine print -- no AT&amp;T 3G</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262685240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The radio doesn't support AT&amp;T's 3G frequency bands, nor Rogers (Canada)'s 3G bands. So that makes it not exactly carrier-neutral in the U.S. and Canada.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The radio does n't support AT&amp;T 's 3G frequency bands , nor Rogers ( Canada ) 's 3G bands .
So that makes it not exactly carrier-neutral in the U.S. and Canada .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The radio doesn't support AT&amp;T's 3G frequency bands, nor Rogers (Canada)'s 3G bands.
So that makes it not exactly carrier-neutral in the U.S. and Canada.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660128</id>
	<title>App Storage</title>
	<author>MBoffin</author>
	<datestamp>1262684340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think App storage is as big of a deal as people make it out to be. Yes, you can root your phone to store apps on the SD card, but in my experience, you don't need to. I don't have hard numbers, but it seems like Android apps clock in at a much smaller size than iPhone apps. Most of the apps I download tend to be between 100k to 700k, with some apps at a meg or two. As I said, I don't know how that exactly compares to iPhone apps, but I'm more than an "average" user of my phone and I've yet to run into a space limitation because of the apps I have installed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think App storage is as big of a deal as people make it out to be .
Yes , you can root your phone to store apps on the SD card , but in my experience , you do n't need to .
I do n't have hard numbers , but it seems like Android apps clock in at a much smaller size than iPhone apps .
Most of the apps I download tend to be between 100k to 700k , with some apps at a meg or two .
As I said , I do n't know how that exactly compares to iPhone apps , but I 'm more than an " average " user of my phone and I 've yet to run into a space limitation because of the apps I have installed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think App storage is as big of a deal as people make it out to be.
Yes, you can root your phone to store apps on the SD card, but in my experience, you don't need to.
I don't have hard numbers, but it seems like Android apps clock in at a much smaller size than iPhone apps.
Most of the apps I download tend to be between 100k to 700k, with some apps at a meg or two.
As I said, I don't know how that exactly compares to iPhone apps, but I'm more than an "average" user of my phone and I've yet to run into a space limitation because of the apps I have installed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663458</id>
	<title>Re:Choice, what a joke</title>
	<author>Concern</author>
	<datestamp>1262698800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, in this country, we have a bunch of besotted couch-potatoes whose idea of fixing this problem is to Wait For the Free Market Fairy to Come Solve It For Them.</p><p>Meanwhile the Free Market Fairy is alive and well and giving oral service in the Verizon executive washroom. One of the funniest parts of being alive in 2010 is listening to people talk about free markets who wouldn't know one if they were clapped in stocks and sold at auction in one.</p><p>The FCC could solve all of this with a few modest policy changes. Transparent billing, disclosure rules, contract practices. All that would help the economy and would be universally popular except among a tiny group of startlingly well-paid bribery facilitators ("lobbyists"). Regulating this industry is not rocket science; you could imitate virtually any other country's approach to cell phones and do better. Too bad I don't hear much of anything coming out of this FCC besides occasional bold statements. I expect better from Democrats, especially since their brand could use the popularity more than the bribes right now. Cest la vie.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , in this country , we have a bunch of besotted couch-potatoes whose idea of fixing this problem is to Wait For the Free Market Fairy to Come Solve It For Them.Meanwhile the Free Market Fairy is alive and well and giving oral service in the Verizon executive washroom .
One of the funniest parts of being alive in 2010 is listening to people talk about free markets who would n't know one if they were clapped in stocks and sold at auction in one.The FCC could solve all of this with a few modest policy changes .
Transparent billing , disclosure rules , contract practices .
All that would help the economy and would be universally popular except among a tiny group of startlingly well-paid bribery facilitators ( " lobbyists " ) .
Regulating this industry is not rocket science ; you could imitate virtually any other country 's approach to cell phones and do better .
Too bad I do n't hear much of anything coming out of this FCC besides occasional bold statements .
I expect better from Democrats , especially since their brand could use the popularity more than the bribes right now .
Cest la vie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, in this country, we have a bunch of besotted couch-potatoes whose idea of fixing this problem is to Wait For the Free Market Fairy to Come Solve It For Them.Meanwhile the Free Market Fairy is alive and well and giving oral service in the Verizon executive washroom.
One of the funniest parts of being alive in 2010 is listening to people talk about free markets who wouldn't know one if they were clapped in stocks and sold at auction in one.The FCC could solve all of this with a few modest policy changes.
Transparent billing, disclosure rules, contract practices.
All that would help the economy and would be universally popular except among a tiny group of startlingly well-paid bribery facilitators ("lobbyists").
Regulating this industry is not rocket science; you could imitate virtually any other country's approach to cell phones and do better.
Too bad I don't hear much of anything coming out of this FCC besides occasional bold statements.
I expect better from Democrats, especially since their brand could use the popularity more than the bribes right now.
Cest la vie.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660024</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Vanden</author>
	<datestamp>1262684040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The most significant ones to me are:<br>TTS<br>1GHz Snapdragon processor<br>Android 2.1<br>5MP camera</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The most significant ones to me are : TTS1GHz Snapdragon processorAndroid 2.15MP camera</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The most significant ones to me are:TTS1GHz Snapdragon processorAndroid 2.15MP camera</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663320</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262698140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>-Cheaper overall plans from TMo (since the Droid only runs on Verizon, I think it's a valid comparison point)</p></div><p>They're not cheaper for a lot of us.</p><p>I'm disappointed about the required $80/month voice + data plan. I've had a G1 for over a year now with a 300-minute voice plan ($30) and unlimited data + 400 text messages ($25).  I get a discount for being a state employee so my monthly bill comes out to $52 after taxes.</p><p>I suppose I could buy an unlocked one and keep my existing plan, but that's not an attractive proposition, either, since unlocked ones are kinda pricey. I was hoping to trade up to the Nexus in a year or so when I become eligible for a handset upgrade. Oh well.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>-Cheaper overall plans from TMo ( since the Droid only runs on Verizon , I think it 's a valid comparison point ) They 're not cheaper for a lot of us.I 'm disappointed about the required $ 80/month voice + data plan .
I 've had a G1 for over a year now with a 300-minute voice plan ( $ 30 ) and unlimited data + 400 text messages ( $ 25 ) .
I get a discount for being a state employee so my monthly bill comes out to $ 52 after taxes.I suppose I could buy an unlocked one and keep my existing plan , but that 's not an attractive proposition , either , since unlocked ones are kinda pricey .
I was hoping to trade up to the Nexus in a year or so when I become eligible for a handset upgrade .
Oh well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>-Cheaper overall plans from TMo (since the Droid only runs on Verizon, I think it's a valid comparison point)They're not cheaper for a lot of us.I'm disappointed about the required $80/month voice + data plan.
I've had a G1 for over a year now with a 300-minute voice plan ($30) and unlimited data + 400 text messages ($25).
I get a discount for being a state employee so my monthly bill comes out to $52 after taxes.I suppose I could buy an unlocked one and keep my existing plan, but that's not an attractive proposition, either, since unlocked ones are kinda pricey.
I was hoping to trade up to the Nexus in a year or so when I become eligible for a handset upgrade.
Oh well.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662436</id>
	<title>Re:is it cool to buy electronics unseen?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262693940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So just type "Nexus One" into Google, and read some reviews?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So just type " Nexus One " into Google , and read some reviews ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So just type "Nexus One" into Google, and read some reviews?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661758</id>
	<title>Re:Only $529!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262690820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have to pay Nokia $300 for their patents<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have to pay Nokia $ 300 for their patents ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have to pay Nokia $300 for their patents ;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661298</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Totenglocke</author>
	<datestamp>1262688840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ok, can someone explain how it can display 720x480 resolution video on a screen that only has a resolution of 400x800?  I'm not saying that the numbers are wrong, just that if they're right, I don't understand how it works.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , can someone explain how it can display 720x480 resolution video on a screen that only has a resolution of 400x800 ?
I 'm not saying that the numbers are wrong , just that if they 're right , I do n't understand how it works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, can someone explain how it can display 720x480 resolution video on a screen that only has a resolution of 400x800?
I'm not saying that the numbers are wrong, just that if they're right, I don't understand how it works.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660218</id>
	<title>Re:gaming?</title>
	<author>Daetrin</author>
	<datestamp>1262684640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Like most recent android phones the hardware supports multi-touch. Also like most recent android phones multi-touch isn't used in the basic interface by Google, supposedly because of legal threats from Apple. (No, i haven't seen anything specific about those supposed threats, though i have seen an <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/28/apple-vs-palm-the-in-depth-analysis/" title="engadget.com">analysis</a> [engadget.com] claiming that Apple doesn't actually have a patent on "pinch to zoom." So i dunno what's actually up with the supposed legal threats. Anyone have a link they want to share?)<br>
<br>
However there's nothing preventing other developers from using multi-touch in their apps. So if someone wants to add multi-touch to a game they're writing for Android app store there's nothing stopping them as far as i know.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like most recent android phones the hardware supports multi-touch .
Also like most recent android phones multi-touch is n't used in the basic interface by Google , supposedly because of legal threats from Apple .
( No , i have n't seen anything specific about those supposed threats , though i have seen an analysis [ engadget.com ] claiming that Apple does n't actually have a patent on " pinch to zoom .
" So i dunno what 's actually up with the supposed legal threats .
Anyone have a link they want to share ?
) However there 's nothing preventing other developers from using multi-touch in their apps .
So if someone wants to add multi-touch to a game they 're writing for Android app store there 's nothing stopping them as far as i know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like most recent android phones the hardware supports multi-touch.
Also like most recent android phones multi-touch isn't used in the basic interface by Google, supposedly because of legal threats from Apple.
(No, i haven't seen anything specific about those supposed threats, though i have seen an analysis [engadget.com] claiming that Apple doesn't actually have a patent on "pinch to zoom.
" So i dunno what's actually up with the supposed legal threats.
Anyone have a link they want to share?
)

However there's nothing preventing other developers from using multi-touch in their apps.
So if someone wants to add multi-touch to a game they're writing for Android app store there's nothing stopping them as far as i know.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659988</id>
	<title>gaming?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262683920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For normal activities (surfing, vids, nav, etc) 1ghz is overkill.  The biggest beneficiary of all that CPU and GPU power is gaming.  But without multitouch, gaming will be terribly restricted.  So WTF am I supposed to play on this thing -- 3D, HD whack-a-mole?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For normal activities ( surfing , vids , nav , etc ) 1ghz is overkill .
The biggest beneficiary of all that CPU and GPU power is gaming .
But without multitouch , gaming will be terribly restricted .
So WTF am I supposed to play on this thing -- 3D , HD whack-a-mole ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For normal activities (surfing, vids, nav, etc) 1ghz is overkill.
The biggest beneficiary of all that CPU and GPU power is gaming.
But without multitouch, gaming will be terribly restricted.
So WTF am I supposed to play on this thing -- 3D, HD whack-a-mole?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660684</id>
	<title>It's all about the coverage.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262686260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Word of warning to anyone considering jumping from Verizon, AT&amp;T, or Sprint to T-Mobile:  Be damn sure that the areas you need to travel in are actually covered by T-Mobile.
<br> <br>As an ex T-Mobile customer who traveled in semi-rural areas around the country, I can say that there are large stretches of the US with no T-Mobile coverage - AT ALL.  Not slow data, not voice-only, not "roaming" or "partner" coverage.  NO coverage.  Just a big old, "NO SERVICE" message.  Good luck calling AAA to come change a tire.  Or to call family to let them know you've hit a deer and will be late.  You know, the things that cell phones were actually invented to do.
<br> <br>
T-Mobile.  Awesome customer service, great prices, and decently neat phones (even more so with the Nexus).  Just no coverage.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Word of warning to anyone considering jumping from Verizon , AT&amp;T , or Sprint to T-Mobile : Be damn sure that the areas you need to travel in are actually covered by T-Mobile .
As an ex T-Mobile customer who traveled in semi-rural areas around the country , I can say that there are large stretches of the US with no T-Mobile coverage - AT ALL .
Not slow data , not voice-only , not " roaming " or " partner " coverage .
NO coverage .
Just a big old , " NO SERVICE " message .
Good luck calling AAA to come change a tire .
Or to call family to let them know you 've hit a deer and will be late .
You know , the things that cell phones were actually invented to do .
T-Mobile. Awesome customer service , great prices , and decently neat phones ( even more so with the Nexus ) .
Just no coverage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Word of warning to anyone considering jumping from Verizon, AT&amp;T, or Sprint to T-Mobile:  Be damn sure that the areas you need to travel in are actually covered by T-Mobile.
As an ex T-Mobile customer who traveled in semi-rural areas around the country, I can say that there are large stretches of the US with no T-Mobile coverage - AT ALL.
Not slow data, not voice-only, not "roaming" or "partner" coverage.
NO coverage.
Just a big old, "NO SERVICE" message.
Good luck calling AAA to come change a tire.
Or to call family to let them know you've hit a deer and will be late.
You know, the things that cell phones were actually invented to do.
T-Mobile.  Awesome customer service, great prices, and decently neat phones (even more so with the Nexus).
Just no coverage.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660454</id>
	<title>Re:Only $529!</title>
	<author>Microlith</author>
	<datestamp>1262685360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iPod Touch is also considerably simpler, since instead of having an entire cellular baseband on its board (usually requiring an additional processor, RAM, flash memory and antenna, it simply has a socket for more NAND.</p><p>They're also less likely to sell at the volume a stand alone mp3 player will sell. That price is not unusual, the Nokia N900 is $550-$650 and had nary a hope of being subsidized in the US.</p><p>And no, you don't get a reduced price if you bring your phone. But that's not a good argument for agreeing to being locked in by a 2-year contract.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPod Touch is also considerably simpler , since instead of having an entire cellular baseband on its board ( usually requiring an additional processor , RAM , flash memory and antenna , it simply has a socket for more NAND.They 're also less likely to sell at the volume a stand alone mp3 player will sell .
That price is not unusual , the Nokia N900 is $ 550- $ 650 and had nary a hope of being subsidized in the US.And no , you do n't get a reduced price if you bring your phone .
But that 's not a good argument for agreeing to being locked in by a 2-year contract .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPod Touch is also considerably simpler, since instead of having an entire cellular baseband on its board (usually requiring an additional processor, RAM, flash memory and antenna, it simply has a socket for more NAND.They're also less likely to sell at the volume a stand alone mp3 player will sell.
That price is not unusual, the Nokia N900 is $550-$650 and had nary a hope of being subsidized in the US.And no, you don't get a reduced price if you bring your phone.
But that's not a good argument for agreeing to being locked in by a 2-year contract.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660752</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>poetmatt</author>
	<datestamp>1262686500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>just use google voice along with their myfave plan. every call comes through on your myfave #, both inbound and outbound, thus = unlimited minutes.</p><p>Remember that tmobile lets you change plans anytime. You can sign on with a 2 year contract at a set plan, and change the plan right away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>just use google voice along with their myfave plan .
every call comes through on your myfave # , both inbound and outbound , thus = unlimited minutes.Remember that tmobile lets you change plans anytime .
You can sign on with a 2 year contract at a set plan , and change the plan right away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>just use google voice along with their myfave plan.
every call comes through on your myfave #, both inbound and outbound, thus = unlimited minutes.Remember that tmobile lets you change plans anytime.
You can sign on with a 2 year contract at a set plan, and change the plan right away.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663726</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>mattack2</author>
	<datestamp>1262700060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you have the choice to have them NOT use the SD card?  Are you even required to have a SD card in it at all times?</p><p>Since you can presumably swap cards, it seems like you might accidentally have some app's data on one SD card, some on another.</p><p>(Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the flexibility.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you have the choice to have them NOT use the SD card ?
Are you even required to have a SD card in it at all times ? Since you can presumably swap cards , it seems like you might accidentally have some app 's data on one SD card , some on another .
( Do n't get me wrong , I appreciate the flexibility .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you have the choice to have them NOT use the SD card?
Are you even required to have a SD card in it at all times?Since you can presumably swap cards, it seems like you might accidentally have some app's data on one SD card, some on another.
(Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the flexibility.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30668794</id>
	<title>Re:In Soviet Russia, phone owns you...</title>
	<author>marcmerlin</author>
	<datestamp>1262789520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What OS limitations?<br>I tether for free on my android phones, I can make them be an adhoc AP for people to connect through my phone, and of course the OS is multitasking.</p><p>I'm not sure you know what you're talking about, or I'm not understanding you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What OS limitations ? I tether for free on my android phones , I can make them be an adhoc AP for people to connect through my phone , and of course the OS is multitasking.I 'm not sure you know what you 're talking about , or I 'm not understanding you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What OS limitations?I tether for free on my android phones, I can make them be an adhoc AP for people to connect through my phone, and of course the OS is multitasking.I'm not sure you know what you're talking about, or I'm not understanding you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660350</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30664588</id>
	<title>Microsoft's official response</title>
	<author>Xaduurv</author>
	<datestamp>1262705880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.gabrielross.com/images/images\_big/aeron\_chair\_exec.jpg" title="gabrielross.com" rel="nofollow">Throwey throwey</a> [gabrielross.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Throwey throwey [ gabrielross.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Throwey throwey [gabrielross.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660182</id>
	<title>"I have an iPhone" LOL!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262684520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I'm pretty underwhelmed by the announcement."</p><p>Golly, who didn't see that coming?! Go away you fucking hipster loser. No one gives a fuck what some idiot with an iPhone has to say.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I 'm pretty underwhelmed by the announcement .
" Golly , who did n't see that coming ? !
Go away you fucking hipster loser .
No one gives a fuck what some idiot with an iPhone has to say .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I'm pretty underwhelmed by the announcement.
"Golly, who didn't see that coming?!
Go away you fucking hipster loser.
No one gives a fuck what some idiot with an iPhone has to say.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660018</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30664240</id>
	<title>In the Bay Area</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262703420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the Bay Area (where Google is located), $530 is almost pocket change.</p><p>You can easily spend 6x as much a month to rent a studio apartment or about as much buying a week of groceries at "Whole Foods" (aka "Whole Paycheck").</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the Bay Area ( where Google is located ) , $ 530 is almost pocket change.You can easily spend 6x as much a month to rent a studio apartment or about as much buying a week of groceries at " Whole Foods " ( aka " Whole Paycheck " ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the Bay Area (where Google is located), $530 is almost pocket change.You can easily spend 6x as much a month to rent a studio apartment or about as much buying a week of groceries at "Whole Foods" (aka "Whole Paycheck").</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660472</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659906</id>
	<title>The unlocked phone comes at quite the premium.</title>
	<author>Slutticus</author>
	<datestamp>1262683620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since it seems Google is perfectly willing to allow unlocked phones, wouldn't it be more cost effective to buy a locked phone, break the contract (~$150???) and then "jailbreak" the phone?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since it seems Google is perfectly willing to allow unlocked phones , would n't it be more cost effective to buy a locked phone , break the contract ( ~ $ 150 ? ? ?
) and then " jailbreak " the phone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since it seems Google is perfectly willing to allow unlocked phones, wouldn't it be more cost effective to buy a locked phone, break the contract (~$150???
) and then "jailbreak" the phone?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30666756</id>
	<title>OpenGL ES benchmarks?</title>
	<author>Yuioup</author>
	<datestamp>1262768400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, how fast is the 3D? Can I run decent games on it? Are there any benchmarks?</p><p>Y</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , how fast is the 3D ?
Can I run decent games on it ?
Are there any benchmarks ? Y</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, how fast is the 3D?
Can I run decent games on it?
Are there any benchmarks?Y</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661752</id>
	<title>Nexus One?</title>
	<author>element-o.p.</author>
	<datestamp>1262690760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Personally, I am waiting for the <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083658/" title="imdb.com">Nexus Six</a> [imdb.com].  I hear they are killer!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally , I am waiting for the Nexus Six [ imdb.com ] .
I hear they are killer !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally, I am waiting for the Nexus Six [imdb.com].
I hear they are killer!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659824</id>
	<title>nigger area code</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262683320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>penis</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>penis</tokentext>
<sentencetext>penis</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663218</id>
	<title>Re:world phone coming soon?</title>
	<author>mgblst</author>
	<datestamp>1262697660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To travel internationally you only need GSM. It is only the US that has the CDMA standard. ATT and T-mobile both have GSM phones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To travel internationally you only need GSM .
It is only the US that has the CDMA standard .
ATT and T-mobile both have GSM phones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To travel internationally you only need GSM.
It is only the US that has the CDMA standard.
ATT and T-mobile both have GSM phones.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659908</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663736</id>
	<title>Re:Ogg support - sweet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262700120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ogg Vorbis has been supported on Android since the first day I got my G1, which was very early after release. vorbis files play just fine.</p><p>\_streaming\_ ogg vorbis the same way you can stream mp3 is a different story, however.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ogg Vorbis has been supported on Android since the first day I got my G1 , which was very early after release .
vorbis files play just fine. \ _streaming \ _ ogg vorbis the same way you can stream mp3 is a different story , however .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ogg Vorbis has been supported on Android since the first day I got my G1, which was very early after release.
vorbis files play just fine.\_streaming\_ ogg vorbis the same way you can stream mp3 is a different story, however.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30673540</id>
	<title>Tethering is the only reason why I won't go iphone</title>
	<author>Fastfwd</author>
	<datestamp>1262809440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right now I own a Nokia E71 phone that I can tether by bluetooth or usb without any additional software. I can also turn it into a wifi hotsot with 3rd party software and I do use that feature to "fake" an iphone from my ipod. As I understand it the iPhone can't run the wifi at the same time as 3G so this is never going to happen on the current hardware.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but the Symbian OS on my Nokia is terrible. It's like using windows 3.1 after having seen OS/2. It's a great phone but for anything else(email,music,web) I definitely reach for the ipod.</p><p>If my job did not require me to have internet access at a moment's notice I would get the iphone and solve my multi-device problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right now I own a Nokia E71 phone that I can tether by bluetooth or usb without any additional software .
I can also turn it into a wifi hotsot with 3rd party software and I do use that feature to " fake " an iphone from my ipod .
As I understand it the iPhone ca n't run the wifi at the same time as 3G so this is never going to happen on the current hardware .
... but the Symbian OS on my Nokia is terrible .
It 's like using windows 3.1 after having seen OS/2 .
It 's a great phone but for anything else ( email,music,web ) I definitely reach for the ipod.If my job did not require me to have internet access at a moment 's notice I would get the iphone and solve my multi-device problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right now I own a Nokia E71 phone that I can tether by bluetooth or usb without any additional software.
I can also turn it into a wifi hotsot with 3rd party software and I do use that feature to "fake" an iphone from my ipod.
As I understand it the iPhone can't run the wifi at the same time as 3G so this is never going to happen on the current hardware.
... but the Symbian OS on my Nokia is terrible.
It's like using windows 3.1 after having seen OS/2.
It's a great phone but for anything else(email,music,web) I definitely reach for the ipod.If my job did not require me to have internet access at a moment's notice I would get the iphone and solve my multi-device problem.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660350</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30684648</id>
	<title>Re:I was hoping for a new business model</title>
	<author>illumin8</author>
	<datestamp>1262888760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>an important part of the announcement is that they are selling an unlocked, GSM phone for $530. sounds like a lot, but depending on the plan you chose you can end up saving money over the course of what would be a 2-year contract. if you are complaining about being tied to GSM networks, you can hardly blame google for that.</p></div></blockquote><p>People act like this is some new thing, that Google came down from the sky like Jesus and offered unlocked phones.</p><p>It's not new.  In 2006 I bought an unlocked Palm Treo 650 running PalmOS for almost exactly the same price, $549, took it to T-Mobile, said I didn't want a contract because I had my own phone, popped my SIM card in, and started using it right away.</p><p>So far I see nothing new at all about Nexus One, other than the fact that they're advertising it pretty heavily with an unlocked option.  Most phone companies don't advertise; they let the carriers do it for them.  Apple is the one big exception, and even they also offer an unlocked option.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>an important part of the announcement is that they are selling an unlocked , GSM phone for $ 530 .
sounds like a lot , but depending on the plan you chose you can end up saving money over the course of what would be a 2-year contract .
if you are complaining about being tied to GSM networks , you can hardly blame google for that.People act like this is some new thing , that Google came down from the sky like Jesus and offered unlocked phones.It 's not new .
In 2006 I bought an unlocked Palm Treo 650 running PalmOS for almost exactly the same price , $ 549 , took it to T-Mobile , said I did n't want a contract because I had my own phone , popped my SIM card in , and started using it right away.So far I see nothing new at all about Nexus One , other than the fact that they 're advertising it pretty heavily with an unlocked option .
Most phone companies do n't advertise ; they let the carriers do it for them .
Apple is the one big exception , and even they also offer an unlocked option .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>an important part of the announcement is that they are selling an unlocked, GSM phone for $530.
sounds like a lot, but depending on the plan you chose you can end up saving money over the course of what would be a 2-year contract.
if you are complaining about being tied to GSM networks, you can hardly blame google for that.People act like this is some new thing, that Google came down from the sky like Jesus and offered unlocked phones.It's not new.
In 2006 I bought an unlocked Palm Treo 650 running PalmOS for almost exactly the same price, $549, took it to T-Mobile, said I didn't want a contract because I had my own phone, popped my SIM card in, and started using it right away.So far I see nothing new at all about Nexus One, other than the fact that they're advertising it pretty heavily with an unlocked option.
Most phone companies don't advertise; they let the carriers do it for them.
Apple is the one big exception, and even they also offer an unlocked option.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660296</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30666606</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>garote</author>
	<datestamp>1262809620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So if I buy an app via the phone, then plug it into the computer, is it automatically synced onto the computer?  How about voice memos?  Same thing?  How about when I download a podcast via the phone?  Same thing?</p><p>Wait<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... back up a step<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... <i>can</i> I actually buy apps via the phone?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... This is easier how again??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So if I buy an app via the phone , then plug it into the computer , is it automatically synced onto the computer ?
How about voice memos ?
Same thing ?
How about when I download a podcast via the phone ?
Same thing ? Wait ... back up a step ... can I actually buy apps via the phone ?
... This is easier how again ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So if I buy an app via the phone, then plug it into the computer, is it automatically synced onto the computer?
How about voice memos?
Same thing?
How about when I download a podcast via the phone?
Same thing?Wait ... back up a step ... can I actually buy apps via the phone?
... This is easier how again?
?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660340</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660626</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>farble1670</author>
	<datestamp>1262686020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><ul>
	<li>thinner and lighter than iphone 3g/s</li><li>3.7&quot; 400x800 AMOLED display</li><li>5MP, LED flash camera</li><li>video at 720x480</li><li>3.5mm headphone adapter (first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design) </li><li>proximity sensor</li><li>light sensor</li><li>android 2.1</li></ul></htmltext>
<tokenext>thinner and lighter than iphone 3g/s3.7 " 400x800 AMOLED display5MP , LED flash cameravideo at 720x4803.5mm headphone adapter ( first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design ) proximity sensorlight sensorandroid 2.1</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
	thinner and lighter than iphone 3g/s3.7" 400x800 AMOLED display5MP, LED flash cameravideo at 720x4803.5mm headphone adapter (first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design) proximity sensorlight sensorandroid 2.1</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659848</id>
	<title>So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262683440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>It seems like this is just another HTC (?) made device... Beside the tts capacity, does anyone know what really sets this thing apart from the Droid\G1\etc???

This may finally be the spark I need to leave ATT, so what makes this thing so great??</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems like this is just another HTC ( ?
) made device... Beside the tts capacity , does anyone know what really sets this thing apart from the Droid \ G1 \ etc ? ? ?
This may finally be the spark I need to leave ATT , so what makes this thing so great ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems like this is just another HTC (?
) made device... Beside the tts capacity, does anyone know what really sets this thing apart from the Droid\G1\etc???
This may finally be the spark I need to leave ATT, so what makes this thing so great?
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662702</id>
	<title>Re:In Soviet Russia, phone owns you...</title>
	<author>TheQuantumShift</author>
	<datestamp>1262695380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And here I thought basic/essential functionality is a phone that doesn't crash...</htmltext>
<tokenext>And here I thought basic/essential functionality is a phone that does n't crash.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And here I thought basic/essential functionality is a phone that doesn't crash...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660350</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30664420</id>
	<title>Re:Choice, what a joke</title>
	<author>npodges</author>
	<datestamp>1262704680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most likely, the Verizon nexus one will also be sold unlocked, and work with Sprint. Then anyone can get this phone on any of the four major networks in the US. So, while you cannot leave T-mobile to go to sprint with this phone, if you were a new buyer, you could pick either network. So the only carrier of the four that doesnt get 3g on the nexus one is ATT.

Also, you do save $20/month on the plan if you buy it unlocked.
The subsidized plan is 500minutes, unlimited sms, unlimited web for 79.99

With t-mobile's no contract plans, 500minutes, unlimited sms, unlimited web is 59.99
Unlimited minutes, sms, and web is 79.99 with no contract.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most likely , the Verizon nexus one will also be sold unlocked , and work with Sprint .
Then anyone can get this phone on any of the four major networks in the US .
So , while you can not leave T-mobile to go to sprint with this phone , if you were a new buyer , you could pick either network .
So the only carrier of the four that doesnt get 3g on the nexus one is ATT .
Also , you do save $ 20/month on the plan if you buy it unlocked .
The subsidized plan is 500minutes , unlimited sms , unlimited web for 79.99 With t-mobile 's no contract plans , 500minutes , unlimited sms , unlimited web is 59.99 Unlimited minutes , sms , and web is 79.99 with no contract .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most likely, the Verizon nexus one will also be sold unlocked, and work with Sprint.
Then anyone can get this phone on any of the four major networks in the US.
So, while you cannot leave T-mobile to go to sprint with this phone, if you were a new buyer, you could pick either network.
So the only carrier of the four that doesnt get 3g on the nexus one is ATT.
Also, you do save $20/month on the plan if you buy it unlocked.
The subsidized plan is 500minutes, unlimited sms, unlimited web for 79.99

With t-mobile's no contract plans, 500minutes, unlimited sms, unlimited web is 59.99
Unlimited minutes, sms, and web is 79.99 with no contract.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660736</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663296</id>
	<title>Re:Only $529!</title>
	<author>mgblst</author>
	<datestamp>1262698020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know, i mean all you need to do is add an aerial to the ipod touch, that is all 3G is, right?</p><p>Fucking moron.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know , i mean all you need to do is add an aerial to the ipod touch , that is all 3G is , right ? Fucking moron .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know, i mean all you need to do is add an aerial to the ipod touch, that is all 3G is, right?Fucking moron.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660158</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660248</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>yincrash</author>
	<datestamp>1262684700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>first htc android with snapdragon. enables a whole load of pretty 3d ui benefits including google earth.</htmltext>
<tokenext>first htc android with snapdragon .
enables a whole load of pretty 3d ui benefits including google earth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>first htc android with snapdragon.
enables a whole load of pretty 3d ui benefits including google earth.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663402</id>
	<title>Re:No Multitouch</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1262698620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On that note, I can't help thinking how for years, Apple fans told us how "one mouse button was good enough" - not even that, but it was better, because it made things simpler, and Apple were wonderful because they designed their UI this way.</p><p>But now, on phones, I'm expected to memorise all manner of complex different kinds of touch operation. On my Nokia 5800 OTOH, it's simple - I just touch it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On that note , I ca n't help thinking how for years , Apple fans told us how " one mouse button was good enough " - not even that , but it was better , because it made things simpler , and Apple were wonderful because they designed their UI this way.But now , on phones , I 'm expected to memorise all manner of complex different kinds of touch operation .
On my Nokia 5800 OTOH , it 's simple - I just touch it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On that note, I can't help thinking how for years, Apple fans told us how "one mouse button was good enough" - not even that, but it was better, because it made things simpler, and Apple were wonderful because they designed their UI this way.But now, on phones, I'm expected to memorise all manner of complex different kinds of touch operation.
On my Nokia 5800 OTOH, it's simple - I just touch it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30665396</id>
	<title>Does it support AT&amp;T 3G frequencies?</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1262710920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From previous reading, I thought the Nexus did not work with AT&amp;T 3G frequencies - EDGE only on AT&amp;T.  Did the final announcement correct that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From previous reading , I thought the Nexus did not work with AT&amp;T 3G frequencies - EDGE only on AT&amp;T .
Did the final announcement correct that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From previous reading, I thought the Nexus did not work with AT&amp;T 3G frequencies - EDGE only on AT&amp;T.
Did the final announcement correct that?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661878</id>
	<title>Re:I was hoping for a new business model</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262691360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm pretty underwhelmed by the announcement</p></div><p>   The press is missing the point.  The interesting part of this announcement is that Google is trying to do what you are asking for.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>We need to commoditize wireless bandwidth.  We want a universe in which we buy our phones directly, we own them, and we can choose which networks to plug them into.  And if a network is bad, we have to be free to walk.</p></div><p>   In the US, different carriers use different standards, so that you can't decide to change carriers without getting a new phone.  You can't (yet) economically make a phone that supports the four different wireless standards used by AT&amp;T, TMoble, Verizon, and Sprint  The phone released today works with Tmobile, and they plan to release one that works with Verizon by the spring.  Next spring, customers will go to google's site, order a phone, and be able to pick the carrier they prefer.  In other words, carriers will compete on the quality of their network, not the phone you can use.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm pretty underwhelmed by the announcement The press is missing the point .
The interesting part of this announcement is that Google is trying to do what you are asking for.We need to commoditize wireless bandwidth .
We want a universe in which we buy our phones directly , we own them , and we can choose which networks to plug them into .
And if a network is bad , we have to be free to walk .
In the US , different carriers use different standards , so that you ca n't decide to change carriers without getting a new phone .
You ca n't ( yet ) economically make a phone that supports the four different wireless standards used by AT&amp;T , TMoble , Verizon , and Sprint The phone released today works with Tmobile , and they plan to release one that works with Verizon by the spring .
Next spring , customers will go to google 's site , order a phone , and be able to pick the carrier they prefer .
In other words , carriers will compete on the quality of their network , not the phone you can use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm pretty underwhelmed by the announcement   The press is missing the point.
The interesting part of this announcement is that Google is trying to do what you are asking for.We need to commoditize wireless bandwidth.
We want a universe in which we buy our phones directly, we own them, and we can choose which networks to plug them into.
And if a network is bad, we have to be free to walk.
In the US, different carriers use different standards, so that you can't decide to change carriers without getting a new phone.
You can't (yet) economically make a phone that supports the four different wireless standards used by AT&amp;T, TMoble, Verizon, and Sprint  The phone released today works with Tmobile, and they plan to release one that works with Verizon by the spring.
Next spring, customers will go to google's site, order a phone, and be able to pick the carrier they prefer.
In other words, carriers will compete on the quality of their network, not the phone you can use.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662710</id>
	<title>Re:UMTS crippled on purpose? will not work on ATT</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262695440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>T-Mobile just upgraded their 3G networks to HSPA 7.2Mbps and by mid 2010 will upgrade to HSPA+ 20Mbps.  T-Mobile now currently has the fastest 3G network in the nation.  Over 200+ Million people are covered.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>T-Mobile just upgraded their 3G networks to HSPA 7.2Mbps and by mid 2010 will upgrade to HSPA + 20Mbps .
T-Mobile now currently has the fastest 3G network in the nation .
Over 200 + Million people are covered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>T-Mobile just upgraded their 3G networks to HSPA 7.2Mbps and by mid 2010 will upgrade to HSPA+ 20Mbps.
T-Mobile now currently has the fastest 3G network in the nation.
Over 200+ Million people are covered.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660736</id>
	<title>Choice, what a joke</title>
	<author>cervo</author>
	<datestamp>1262686440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Throughout the Google event they seemed to drone on about choice.  But the reality is that there isn't much choice.  Sprint/Verizon are on CDMA, Tmobile/ATT use different 3G frequencies.  Right now your phone will work on t-mobile, that's it (with 3G).  if you want to switch to AT&amp;T, you don't get 3G speeds.  So there's no choice there....
<br> <br>
What about verizon?  Google indicated a CDMA phone will be coming.  If you want to go to t-mobile, guess what they don't use CDMA.  Will they pull the same thing with CDMA and somehow make one model for Verizon only and when Sprint comes out, one for Sprint?
<br> <br>
Basically Google is no better than the cell phone companies.  To disrupt the market they really need a phone that works across carriers.  Otherwise buying subsidized hardware is better since you'll need a new phone.  If I could use the phone on verizon, t-mobile, att then I would go out and easily spend the $500 for that freedom.  But you can't.  In fact, t-mobile is the number 3 carrier and their network is more lacking than either ATT or Verizon.  So if the phone worked on ATT and Verizon I would still go for it.  I like T-mobile as a company.  Their service plans/customer service/etc. seem more consumer friendly than ATT or Verizon, but when their network for voice doesn't support everywhere I go, then they are not a viable alternative.
<br> <br>
Also, in Europe unlocked phones work because you get a discount if you bring your own hardware.  If I pay $20 less per month then over two years I save $480 which almost entirely pays for the phone.  But without a discount, it doesn't make sense.  And with ATT/Verizon you don't get a discount for bringing your own hardware.  In fact I'm surprised the DOJ doesn't investigate that.....  Well not surprised but they should.  In particular by not offering a discount to people bringing their own equipment, it ruins the value proposition for unlocked phones completely.  Even if you didn't make up the full value of an unlocked phone (say subsidized cost + 480 <br>
Also ATT would have made the most sense since they don't have any android phones (and the rep seemed quite upset at me when I asked if he knew when they might have some, indicating ATT would never support android...which is probably false).  I would think with ATT Google would not have been competing with any of their peers, while on T-Mobile they will compete with HTC and on Verizon they will compete with Motorola and eventually HTC.  It's very curious.  Also making a phone that supported T-Mobile and ATT would have enabled competition between ATT/T-Mobile.  T-Mobile is already pretty good, but ATT could do well with more competition.
<br> <br>
Also interesting is that in the transcript I saw, I didn't see a question about why not ATT.  The press seems to obsess about "iPhone killers".  And yet this phone is not even on AT&amp;T, so it doesn't compete with the existing network of iPhone users.  I am surprised no one asked why not ATT.  Are the Google questions canned to provide the best possible "choice".
<br> <br>
Anyway the holy grail of choice would be a phone that is $500 or less that support CDMA and GSM on Verizon/T-Mobile/ATT/Sprint.  Then at the very least networks will have to compete when people's contracts are up (assuming the phone must be unlocked at the end of the term).  Even more of a holy grail would be if providers were required to return the subsidized price of a phone to consumers who bring their own hardware, by indicating the part of the monthly bill used by the subsidy or something.  Then even Joe the Plumber would start to get the idea that a subsidized phone is not free....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Throughout the Google event they seemed to drone on about choice .
But the reality is that there is n't much choice .
Sprint/Verizon are on CDMA , Tmobile/ATT use different 3G frequencies .
Right now your phone will work on t-mobile , that 's it ( with 3G ) .
if you want to switch to AT&amp;T , you do n't get 3G speeds .
So there 's no choice there... . What about verizon ?
Google indicated a CDMA phone will be coming .
If you want to go to t-mobile , guess what they do n't use CDMA .
Will they pull the same thing with CDMA and somehow make one model for Verizon only and when Sprint comes out , one for Sprint ?
Basically Google is no better than the cell phone companies .
To disrupt the market they really need a phone that works across carriers .
Otherwise buying subsidized hardware is better since you 'll need a new phone .
If I could use the phone on verizon , t-mobile , att then I would go out and easily spend the $ 500 for that freedom .
But you ca n't .
In fact , t-mobile is the number 3 carrier and their network is more lacking than either ATT or Verizon .
So if the phone worked on ATT and Verizon I would still go for it .
I like T-mobile as a company .
Their service plans/customer service/etc .
seem more consumer friendly than ATT or Verizon , but when their network for voice does n't support everywhere I go , then they are not a viable alternative .
Also , in Europe unlocked phones work because you get a discount if you bring your own hardware .
If I pay $ 20 less per month then over two years I save $ 480 which almost entirely pays for the phone .
But without a discount , it does n't make sense .
And with ATT/Verizon you do n't get a discount for bringing your own hardware .
In fact I 'm surprised the DOJ does n't investigate that..... Well not surprised but they should .
In particular by not offering a discount to people bringing their own equipment , it ruins the value proposition for unlocked phones completely .
Even if you did n't make up the full value of an unlocked phone ( say subsidized cost + 480 Also ATT would have made the most sense since they do n't have any android phones ( and the rep seemed quite upset at me when I asked if he knew when they might have some , indicating ATT would never support android...which is probably false ) .
I would think with ATT Google would not have been competing with any of their peers , while on T-Mobile they will compete with HTC and on Verizon they will compete with Motorola and eventually HTC .
It 's very curious .
Also making a phone that supported T-Mobile and ATT would have enabled competition between ATT/T-Mobile .
T-Mobile is already pretty good , but ATT could do well with more competition .
Also interesting is that in the transcript I saw , I did n't see a question about why not ATT .
The press seems to obsess about " iPhone killers " .
And yet this phone is not even on AT&amp;T , so it does n't compete with the existing network of iPhone users .
I am surprised no one asked why not ATT .
Are the Google questions canned to provide the best possible " choice " .
Anyway the holy grail of choice would be a phone that is $ 500 or less that support CDMA and GSM on Verizon/T-Mobile/ATT/Sprint .
Then at the very least networks will have to compete when people 's contracts are up ( assuming the phone must be unlocked at the end of the term ) .
Even more of a holy grail would be if providers were required to return the subsidized price of a phone to consumers who bring their own hardware , by indicating the part of the monthly bill used by the subsidy or something .
Then even Joe the Plumber would start to get the idea that a subsidized phone is not free... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Throughout the Google event they seemed to drone on about choice.
But the reality is that there isn't much choice.
Sprint/Verizon are on CDMA, Tmobile/ATT use different 3G frequencies.
Right now your phone will work on t-mobile, that's it (with 3G).
if you want to switch to AT&amp;T, you don't get 3G speeds.
So there's no choice there....
 
What about verizon?
Google indicated a CDMA phone will be coming.
If you want to go to t-mobile, guess what they don't use CDMA.
Will they pull the same thing with CDMA and somehow make one model for Verizon only and when Sprint comes out, one for Sprint?
Basically Google is no better than the cell phone companies.
To disrupt the market they really need a phone that works across carriers.
Otherwise buying subsidized hardware is better since you'll need a new phone.
If I could use the phone on verizon, t-mobile, att then I would go out and easily spend the $500 for that freedom.
But you can't.
In fact, t-mobile is the number 3 carrier and their network is more lacking than either ATT or Verizon.
So if the phone worked on ATT and Verizon I would still go for it.
I like T-mobile as a company.
Their service plans/customer service/etc.
seem more consumer friendly than ATT or Verizon, but when their network for voice doesn't support everywhere I go, then they are not a viable alternative.
Also, in Europe unlocked phones work because you get a discount if you bring your own hardware.
If I pay $20 less per month then over two years I save $480 which almost entirely pays for the phone.
But without a discount, it doesn't make sense.
And with ATT/Verizon you don't get a discount for bringing your own hardware.
In fact I'm surprised the DOJ doesn't investigate that.....  Well not surprised but they should.
In particular by not offering a discount to people bringing their own equipment, it ruins the value proposition for unlocked phones completely.
Even if you didn't make up the full value of an unlocked phone (say subsidized cost + 480 
Also ATT would have made the most sense since they don't have any android phones (and the rep seemed quite upset at me when I asked if he knew when they might have some, indicating ATT would never support android...which is probably false).
I would think with ATT Google would not have been competing with any of their peers, while on T-Mobile they will compete with HTC and on Verizon they will compete with Motorola and eventually HTC.
It's very curious.
Also making a phone that supported T-Mobile and ATT would have enabled competition between ATT/T-Mobile.
T-Mobile is already pretty good, but ATT could do well with more competition.
Also interesting is that in the transcript I saw, I didn't see a question about why not ATT.
The press seems to obsess about "iPhone killers".
And yet this phone is not even on AT&amp;T, so it doesn't compete with the existing network of iPhone users.
I am surprised no one asked why not ATT.
Are the Google questions canned to provide the best possible "choice".
Anyway the holy grail of choice would be a phone that is $500 or less that support CDMA and GSM on Verizon/T-Mobile/ATT/Sprint.
Then at the very least networks will have to compete when people's contracts are up (assuming the phone must be unlocked at the end of the term).
Even more of a holy grail would be if providers were required to return the subsidized price of a phone to consumers who bring their own hardware, by indicating the part of the monthly bill used by the subsidy or something.
Then even Joe the Plumber would start to get the idea that a subsidized phone is not free....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30663210</id>
	<title>Re:Ogg support - sweet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262697660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>nice, but if you read/view the engadget review mentioned elsewhere, you'll notice that the music player kind of sucks...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>nice , but if you read/view the engadget review mentioned elsewhere , you 'll notice that the music player kind of sucks.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nice, but if you read/view the engadget review mentioned elsewhere, you'll notice that the music player kind of sucks...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30664362</id>
	<title>Re:Choice, what a joke</title>
	<author>PhoenixOne</author>
	<datestamp>1262704260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think Google's point was that they're giving you a choice by not limiting you to a single provider (ala iPhone). It isn't their fault that AT&amp;T is lame.

Hopefully this will pressure the service providers to actually provide services instead of making money with confusing long-term contracts and random fees (e.g. like the stupid 'activation fee' they charge for the 'Totally Free Phone' I got 3 months ago).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Google 's point was that they 're giving you a choice by not limiting you to a single provider ( ala iPhone ) .
It is n't their fault that AT&amp;T is lame .
Hopefully this will pressure the service providers to actually provide services instead of making money with confusing long-term contracts and random fees ( e.g .
like the stupid 'activation fee ' they charge for the 'Totally Free Phone ' I got 3 months ago ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Google's point was that they're giving you a choice by not limiting you to a single provider (ala iPhone).
It isn't their fault that AT&amp;T is lame.
Hopefully this will pressure the service providers to actually provide services instead of making money with confusing long-term contracts and random fees (e.g.
like the stupid 'activation fee' they charge for the 'Totally Free Phone' I got 3 months ago).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660154</id>
	<title>Works with T-Mobile's 39.99 data-only plan?</title>
	<author>gregrah</author>
	<datestamp>1262684520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Would this work with T-Mobile's $39.99 <a href="http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/cell-phone-plans-detail.aspx?tp=tb1&amp;rateplan=T-Mobile-Total-Internet-Rate-Plan" title="t-mobile.com" rel="nofollow">Total Internet</a> [t-mobile.com] plan?
</p><p>
If so - I would consider carrying an N1 around for web access, and still hold on to my $0.10-per-minute prepaid phone for the times that I need voice.  VOIP would be another option for voice, if latency is not too bad.  </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would this work with T-Mobile 's $ 39.99 Total Internet [ t-mobile.com ] plan ?
If so - I would consider carrying an N1 around for web access , and still hold on to my $ 0.10-per-minute prepaid phone for the times that I need voice .
VOIP would be another option for voice , if latency is not too bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Would this work with T-Mobile's $39.99 Total Internet [t-mobile.com] plan?
If so - I would consider carrying an N1 around for web access, and still hold on to my $0.10-per-minute prepaid phone for the times that I need voice.
VOIP would be another option for voice, if latency is not too bad.  </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662460</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>tensop</author>
	<datestamp>1262694060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No. HTC Hero has a 3.5mm jack.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
HTC Hero has a 3.5mm jack .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
HTC Hero has a 3.5mm jack.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660108</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262684280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to mention most Android based phones have Micro-SD slots for more memory storage. This one overlooked option is why i will NEVER own an Apple product.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention most Android based phones have Micro-SD slots for more memory storage .
This one overlooked option is why i will NEVER own an Apple product .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention most Android based phones have Micro-SD slots for more memory storage.
This one overlooked option is why i will NEVER own an Apple product.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660492</id>
	<title>Re:Only $529!</title>
	<author>MemoryDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1262685540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Soft of price fixing of course the phones are not even worth 200 dollars maybe not even the price the carriers charge, but since we only have a handful of phone producers, almost a cartel no one will change that</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Soft of price fixing of course the phones are not even worth 200 dollars maybe not even the price the carriers charge , but since we only have a handful of phone producers , almost a cartel no one will change that</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Soft of price fixing of course the phones are not even worth 200 dollars maybe not even the price the carriers charge, but since we only have a handful of phone producers, almost a cartel no one will change that</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660240</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>theskipper</author>
	<datestamp>1262684700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This Engadget review addresses Nexus vs. Droid in some depth:</p><p><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/nexus-one-review/" title="engadget.com">http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/nexus-one-review/</a> [engadget.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This Engadget review addresses Nexus vs. Droid in some depth : http : //www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/nexus-one-review/ [ engadget.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This Engadget review addresses Nexus vs. Droid in some depth:http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/nexus-one-review/ [engadget.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661952</id>
	<title>Re:Choice, what a joke</title>
	<author>Orange Crush</author>
	<datestamp>1262691600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My understanding is that this impractical due to all the patent licensing required to make such a device.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My understanding is that this impractical due to all the patent licensing required to make such a device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My understanding is that this impractical due to all the patent licensing required to make such a device.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30665866</id>
	<title>Re:In Soviet Russia, phone owns you...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262715360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>every limitation you mentioned for the iphone i can do via a jailbroken unit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>every limitation you mentioned for the iphone i can do via a jailbroken unit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>every limitation you mentioned for the iphone i can do via a jailbroken unit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30664912</id>
	<title>Limited Thinking</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1262707860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Processing power can be used for more then games. Multi-tasking is one of Androids strengths, more powerful office suites, graphical editors and other software that can do processing in the background, think Seti@android, Background SonicWall/Cisco VPN or a batch processing application.<br> <br>

PC's are used for so much more then gaming, I work in GIS and can instantly think of a few processing applications for a powerful phone, especially for field services where you can get some preliminary work done on the data in the field and then upload it to the servers at the office when you're in range (or Wifi). This will help cut down on heavy laptops which have only a few hours of battery life.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Processing power can be used for more then games .
Multi-tasking is one of Androids strengths , more powerful office suites , graphical editors and other software that can do processing in the background , think Seti @ android , Background SonicWall/Cisco VPN or a batch processing application .
PC 's are used for so much more then gaming , I work in GIS and can instantly think of a few processing applications for a powerful phone , especially for field services where you can get some preliminary work done on the data in the field and then upload it to the servers at the office when you 're in range ( or Wifi ) .
This will help cut down on heavy laptops which have only a few hours of battery life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Processing power can be used for more then games.
Multi-tasking is one of Androids strengths, more powerful office suites, graphical editors and other software that can do processing in the background, think Seti@android, Background SonicWall/Cisco VPN or a batch processing application.
PC's are used for so much more then gaming, I work in GIS and can instantly think of a few processing applications for a powerful phone, especially for field services where you can get some preliminary work done on the data in the field and then upload it to the servers at the office when you're in range (or Wifi).
This will help cut down on heavy laptops which have only a few hours of battery life.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661904</id>
	<title>Re:But Cellular Service is evil</title>
	<author>dna\_(c)(tm)(r)</author>
	<datestamp>1262691420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Me Thinks</p></div><p>Therefore you ares. (thanks, Ren&#233; D.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Me ThinksTherefore you ares .
( thanks , Ren   D. )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Me ThinksTherefore you ares.
(thanks, René D.)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660354</id>
	<title>Re:I was hoping for a new business model</title>
	<author>b0bby</author>
	<datestamp>1262685060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google sells the phone unlocked, and T-Mobile no-contract/no subsidy plans are $10 per month cheaper than the "free phone" plans. So there's no problem switching if you want, you could just sell the handset.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google sells the phone unlocked , and T-Mobile no-contract/no subsidy plans are $ 10 per month cheaper than the " free phone " plans .
So there 's no problem switching if you want , you could just sell the handset .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google sells the phone unlocked, and T-Mobile no-contract/no subsidy plans are $10 per month cheaper than the "free phone" plans.
So there's no problem switching if you want, you could just sell the handset.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660340</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>nschubach</author>
	<datestamp>1262685000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's actually HARDER to load the iPhone since you have to do it through iTunes.  With the Android devices you simply plug in the USB cable and hit the "USB Connected" then "Mount" button in the notification panel and it acts just like a thumb drive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's actually HARDER to load the iPhone since you have to do it through iTunes .
With the Android devices you simply plug in the USB cable and hit the " USB Connected " then " Mount " button in the notification panel and it acts just like a thumb drive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's actually HARDER to load the iPhone since you have to do it through iTunes.
With the Android devices you simply plug in the USB cable and hit the "USB Connected" then "Mount" button in the notification panel and it acts just like a thumb drive.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661678</id>
	<title>Re:Ogg support - sweet</title>
	<author>farble1670</author>
	<datestamp>1262690400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>android to this <a href="http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/02/android-sdk-m5-rc14-now-available.html" title="blogspot.com">android developer blog post</a> [blogspot.com], ogg has been supported since feb 2008 in the SDK, which is at least several major releases of the OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>android to this android developer blog post [ blogspot.com ] , ogg has been supported since feb 2008 in the SDK , which is at least several major releases of the OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>android to this android developer blog post [blogspot.com], ogg has been supported since feb 2008 in the SDK, which is at least several major releases of the OS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30669120</id>
	<title>Re:Only $529!</title>
	<author>pijokela</author>
	<datestamp>1262791560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is no cartel of the phone manufacturers. It may look like that with the twisted market in the US, but here is Finland the phone pricing is pretty clear and there just is no cartel. From the Nokia online store I can buy a phone with as little as 49&euro; (Nokia 5030) or as much as 579&euro; (N900 or N97). All prices are without plans - I can get a plan from at least three providers.</p><p>Now, obviously, the 49&euro; phone and the 579&euro; phones are not the same thing. The 49&euro; thing is very basic, but if I go up to 250&euro; I already get a camera and can listen to music on the device. You must realize that the devices featured on slashdot are all brand new and all have tons of new development in them (e.g. N900 has a new operating system). That costs development money and rises the price of the device. Also, the expensive phones are premium products.</p><p>As for the comparison to an ipod: You can get an MP3 player at about 30&euro; here. How can they charge me 200&euro; for the fifth generation nano? It's a premium product - but still I chose to buy it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is no cartel of the phone manufacturers .
It may look like that with the twisted market in the US , but here is Finland the phone pricing is pretty clear and there just is no cartel .
From the Nokia online store I can buy a phone with as little as 49    ( Nokia 5030 ) or as much as 579    ( N900 or N97 ) .
All prices are without plans - I can get a plan from at least three providers.Now , obviously , the 49    phone and the 579    phones are not the same thing .
The 49    thing is very basic , but if I go up to 250    I already get a camera and can listen to music on the device .
You must realize that the devices featured on slashdot are all brand new and all have tons of new development in them ( e.g .
N900 has a new operating system ) .
That costs development money and rises the price of the device .
Also , the expensive phones are premium products.As for the comparison to an ipod : You can get an MP3 player at about 30    here .
How can they charge me 200    for the fifth generation nano ?
It 's a premium product - but still I chose to buy it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is no cartel of the phone manufacturers.
It may look like that with the twisted market in the US, but here is Finland the phone pricing is pretty clear and there just is no cartel.
From the Nokia online store I can buy a phone with as little as 49€ (Nokia 5030) or as much as 579€ (N900 or N97).
All prices are without plans - I can get a plan from at least three providers.Now, obviously, the 49€ phone and the 579€ phones are not the same thing.
The 49€ thing is very basic, but if I go up to 250€ I already get a camera and can listen to music on the device.
You must realize that the devices featured on slashdot are all brand new and all have tons of new development in them (e.g.
N900 has a new operating system).
That costs development money and rises the price of the device.
Also, the expensive phones are premium products.As for the comparison to an ipod: You can get an MP3 player at about 30€ here.
How can they charge me 200€ for the fifth generation nano?
It's a premium product - but still I chose to buy it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30665548</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Cassius Corodes</author>
	<datestamp>1262712240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Resolution is 800x480 <a href="http://www.google.com/phone/static/en\_US-nexusone\_tech\_specs.html" title="google.com">http://www.google.com/phone/static/en\_US-nexusone\_tech\_specs.html</a> [google.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Resolution is 800x480 http : //www.google.com/phone/static/en \ _US-nexusone \ _tech \ _specs.html [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Resolution is 800x480 http://www.google.com/phone/static/en\_US-nexusone\_tech\_specs.html [google.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659974</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262683860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Verizon does not use SIM cards.  T-mobile and ATT do</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Verizon does not use SIM cards .
T-mobile and ATT do</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Verizon does not use SIM cards.
T-mobile and ATT do</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662202</id>
	<title>So much for offline GPS</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1262692740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>He also neglects to point out in his comparison that the 16 GB of storage on the iPhone is typically filled with music, leaving much less than that for applications.</i></p><p>How do you know what is typical?  I have 7.42GB taken up by apps currently on my phone, and I don't even have that many apps compared to a lot of people I know.  Lots of games use large amounts of memory, and I think a fair chunk of that is used by two GPS apps I have with cached offline maps - AccuTerra and iTopoMaps.</p><p>But the real point is that if you need more space for apps, you can just slim down the number of songs or videos until you get the number of apps you want.  As nice as it is to be able to expand via SD it's kind of pointless if said expansion doesn't really give you any more space for one key aspect of the device.</p><p>The main problem with the Android space limitation means that whole classes of applications will simply never be developed for Android, even if some users can hack around the restriction with an altered filesystem...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He also neglects to point out in his comparison that the 16 GB of storage on the iPhone is typically filled with music , leaving much less than that for applications.How do you know what is typical ?
I have 7.42GB taken up by apps currently on my phone , and I do n't even have that many apps compared to a lot of people I know .
Lots of games use large amounts of memory , and I think a fair chunk of that is used by two GPS apps I have with cached offline maps - AccuTerra and iTopoMaps.But the real point is that if you need more space for apps , you can just slim down the number of songs or videos until you get the number of apps you want .
As nice as it is to be able to expand via SD it 's kind of pointless if said expansion does n't really give you any more space for one key aspect of the device.The main problem with the Android space limitation means that whole classes of applications will simply never be developed for Android , even if some users can hack around the restriction with an altered filesystem.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He also neglects to point out in his comparison that the 16 GB of storage on the iPhone is typically filled with music, leaving much less than that for applications.How do you know what is typical?
I have 7.42GB taken up by apps currently on my phone, and I don't even have that many apps compared to a lot of people I know.
Lots of games use large amounts of memory, and I think a fair chunk of that is used by two GPS apps I have with cached offline maps - AccuTerra and iTopoMaps.But the real point is that if you need more space for apps, you can just slim down the number of songs or videos until you get the number of apps you want.
As nice as it is to be able to expand via SD it's kind of pointless if said expansion doesn't really give you any more space for one key aspect of the device.The main problem with the Android space limitation means that whole classes of applications will simply never be developed for Android, even if some users can hack around the restriction with an altered filesystem...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30667248</id>
	<title>Re:So what's the difference?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262775060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p># 3.5mm headphone adapter (first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design)</p><p>I think my HTC android hero has a 3.5mm headphone socket. (I use bluetooth a2dp headphones so cant be sure)</p><p>Ironically this is what mainly moved me from iPhone to something else.<br>I waited so long for the firmware 3.0 update for the iphone only to find out my 2G didn't work with a2dp. I was so pissed.<br>The constant cat and mouse of jailbreaking was getting tedious. (I didn't want to use iTunes)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext># 3.5mm headphone adapter ( first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design ) I think my HTC android hero has a 3.5mm headphone socket .
( I use bluetooth a2dp headphones so cant be sure ) Ironically this is what mainly moved me from iPhone to something else.I waited so long for the firmware 3.0 update for the iphone only to find out my 2G did n't work with a2dp .
I was so pissed.The constant cat and mouse of jailbreaking was getting tedious .
( I did n't want to use iTunes )</tokentext>
<sentencetext># 3.5mm headphone adapter (first HTC android phone to move away from mini-usb only design)I think my HTC android hero has a 3.5mm headphone socket.
(I use bluetooth a2dp headphones so cant be sure)Ironically this is what mainly moved me from iPhone to something else.I waited so long for the firmware 3.0 update for the iphone only to find out my 2G didn't work with a2dp.
I was so pissed.The constant cat and mouse of jailbreaking was getting tedious.
(I didn't want to use iTunes)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30659904</id>
	<title>Man, that demo page is slow</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262683620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's ironic to me that the company known for such a lean web page has such a huge footprint on their demo page. Sucker hung my computer for nearly 5 minutes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's ironic to me that the company known for such a lean web page has such a huge footprint on their demo page .
Sucker hung my computer for nearly 5 minutes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's ironic to me that the company known for such a lean web page has such a huge footprint on their demo page.
Sucker hung my computer for nearly 5 minutes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30693252</id>
	<title>Live wallpapers of the future</title>
	<author>mindbrix</author>
	<datestamp>1262959620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hi. Can anyone holding a Nexus One please tell me if my site <a href="http://www.concentrichron.com/" title="concentrichron.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.concentrichron.com/</a> [concentrichron.com] works on in, as I'd like to turn it into a live wallpaper.

Thanks,
Nigel.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi .
Can anyone holding a Nexus One please tell me if my site http : //www.concentrichron.com/ [ concentrichron.com ] works on in , as I 'd like to turn it into a live wallpaper .
Thanks , Nigel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi.
Can anyone holding a Nexus One please tell me if my site http://www.concentrichron.com/ [concentrichron.com] works on in, as I'd like to turn it into a live wallpaper.
Thanks,
Nigel.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660680</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>Killer Orca</author>
	<datestamp>1262686260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can use an SD card to store apps on, as stated by gizmodo <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5440694/google-nexus-one-everything-you-need-to-know?skyline=true&amp;s=i" title="gizmodo.com">http://gizmodo.com/5440694/google-nexus-one-everything-you-need-to-know?skyline=true&amp;s=i</a> [gizmodo.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can use an SD card to store apps on , as stated by gizmodo http : //gizmodo.com/5440694/google-nexus-one-everything-you-need-to-know ? skyline = true&amp;s = i [ gizmodo.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can use an SD card to store apps on, as stated by gizmodo http://gizmodo.com/5440694/google-nexus-one-everything-you-need-to-know?skyline=true&amp;s=i [gizmodo.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30688064</id>
	<title>Missed the big improvement</title>
	<author>Luke-Jr</author>
	<datestamp>1262861580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Everyone seems to have missed it... this is the first handheld with *512 MB RAM*. If only it had a keyboard, I'd be running KDE 4.3 on it nicely<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)

So it's being advertised as open source. Where exactly is the source? I cant' find it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone seems to have missed it... this is the first handheld with * 512 MB RAM * .
If only it had a keyboard , I 'd be running KDE 4.3 on it nicely : ) So it 's being advertised as open source .
Where exactly is the source ?
I cant ' find it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone seems to have missed it... this is the first handheld with *512 MB RAM*.
If only it had a keyboard, I'd be running KDE 4.3 on it nicely :)

So it's being advertised as open source.
Where exactly is the source?
I cant' find it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30662610</id>
	<title>What the hell?</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1262694960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is like saying that since the majority of my HD will be filled with porn, it doesn't matter that a new HD only allows me to use 1\% of it for programs. I DO need an OS to view my porn, where am I going to put that smartass?
</p><p>I really do not get the 190mb limit, it seems truly insane. What if a user wants to install a large game? 190mb is an insanely small amount. I really got to wonder what the reasoning behind it is. When I first read it, I had to wonder if it was a misprint.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is like saying that since the majority of my HD will be filled with porn , it does n't matter that a new HD only allows me to use 1 \ % of it for programs .
I DO need an OS to view my porn , where am I going to put that smartass ?
I really do not get the 190mb limit , it seems truly insane .
What if a user wants to install a large game ?
190mb is an insanely small amount .
I really got to wonder what the reasoning behind it is .
When I first read it , I had to wonder if it was a misprint .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is like saying that since the majority of my HD will be filled with porn, it doesn't matter that a new HD only allows me to use 1\% of it for programs.
I DO need an OS to view my porn, where am I going to put that smartass?
I really do not get the 190mb limit, it seems truly insane.
What if a user wants to install a large game?
190mb is an insanely small amount.
I really got to wonder what the reasoning behind it is.
When I first read it, I had to wonder if it was a misprint.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30661396</id>
	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262689140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the 256mb limit is only for the application launcher. Application are still able to store data on the SD card, as long as the launcher reside on the phone memory</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the 256mb limit is only for the application launcher .
Application are still able to store data on the SD card , as long as the launcher reside on the phone memory</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the 256mb limit is only for the application launcher.
Application are still able to store data on the SD card, as long as the launcher reside on the phone memory</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30664492</id>
	<title>only 190mb for apps?</title>
	<author>smash</author>
	<datestamp>1262705160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wtf google?  Looked like a pretty nice phone until I read that.  I've got a 16gb 3G-s and most of my space is likely to be used by apps.  I think they're also under-estimating the phone-gamer market here - bought the GF an iPhone for christmas, and she's already got about 20 games on it.  She's not normally a gamer in the true sense, but loves playing the little timewasting games while on the train, or whatever.  190mb for that sort of thing is pretty tight...
<p>
Still... wait for v2.0 I'm guessing.  There might actually be some apps out for it by then, too - which is what makes the iphone great.  Spec wise its nothing flash.  It has its faults, hardware wise.  But the apps, and the APIs for using the GPS, touch, etc are great.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wtf google ?
Looked like a pretty nice phone until I read that .
I 've got a 16gb 3G-s and most of my space is likely to be used by apps .
I think they 're also under-estimating the phone-gamer market here - bought the GF an iPhone for christmas , and she 's already got about 20 games on it .
She 's not normally a gamer in the true sense , but loves playing the little timewasting games while on the train , or whatever .
190mb for that sort of thing is pretty tight.. . Still... wait for v2.0 I 'm guessing .
There might actually be some apps out for it by then , too - which is what makes the iphone great .
Spec wise its nothing flash .
It has its faults , hardware wise .
But the apps , and the APIs for using the GPS , touch , etc are great .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wtf google?
Looked like a pretty nice phone until I read that.
I've got a 16gb 3G-s and most of my space is likely to be used by apps.
I think they're also under-estimating the phone-gamer market here - bought the GF an iPhone for christmas, and she's already got about 20 games on it.
She's not normally a gamer in the true sense, but loves playing the little timewasting games while on the train, or whatever.
190mb for that sort of thing is pretty tight...

Still... wait for v2.0 I'm guessing.
There might actually be some apps out for it by then, too - which is what makes the iphone great.
Spec wise its nothing flash.
It has its faults, hardware wise.
But the apps, and the APIs for using the GPS, touch, etc are great.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30660876</id>
	<title>Um,</title>
	<author>rickb928</author>
	<datestamp>1262686920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>"On the Nexus One, only 190 megabytes of its total 4.5 gigabytes of memory is allowed for storing apps"</p><p>Until it is rooted.  apps2sd, my friend.  Then memory is limited mostly by your wallet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" On the Nexus One , only 190 megabytes of its total 4.5 gigabytes of memory is allowed for storing apps " Until it is rooted .
apps2sd , my friend .
Then memory is limited mostly by your wallet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"On the Nexus One, only 190 megabytes of its total 4.5 gigabytes of memory is allowed for storing apps"Until it is rooted.
apps2sd, my friend.
Then memory is limited mostly by your wallet.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1942233.30664616</id>
	<title>Re:Only $529!</title>
	<author>Totenglocke</author>
	<datestamp>1262706060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>personally, after being bound to AT&amp;T's crappy service for almost 2 years now i will never buy a subsidized phone again.</p></div><p>All depends on where you live.  I live in Cincinnati / Dayton, Ohio and my service is great and my 3G speeds average around 130Kb/sec.</p></div>
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<tokenext>personally , after being bound to AT&amp;T 's crappy service for almost 2 years now i will never buy a subsidized phone again.All depends on where you live .
I live in Cincinnati / Dayton , Ohio and my service is great and my 3G speeds average around 130Kb/sec .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>personally, after being bound to AT&amp;T's crappy service for almost 2 years now i will never buy a subsidized phone again.All depends on where you live.
I live in Cincinnati / Dayton, Ohio and my service is great and my 3G speeds average around 130Kb/sec.
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	<title>Re:Mossberg is an Apple fanboi, valid point though</title>
	<author>subspacemsg</author>
	<datestamp>1262693340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Android works differently when it comes to App footprint management.Only the critical piece goes on the ROM, the app data stays on the sdcard.
<p>
I have a mytouch android phone it has a 512MB of ROM space. I have more than 100 apps installed and still 96MB of space left.

I hardly see this is as a problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Android works differently when it comes to App footprint management.Only the critical piece goes on the ROM , the app data stays on the sdcard .
I have a mytouch android phone it has a 512MB of ROM space .
I have more than 100 apps installed and still 96MB of space left .
I hardly see this is as a problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Android works differently when it comes to App footprint management.Only the critical piece goes on the ROM, the app data stays on the sdcard.
I have a mytouch android phone it has a 512MB of ROM space.
I have more than 100 apps installed and still 96MB of space left.
I hardly see this is as a problem.</sentencetext>
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