<article>
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	<title>Android Phone Demand Up 250\%, iPhone Down</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1262607420000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>CWmike writes <i>"A 'monstrous' jump in demand for Android-equipped smartphones has turned the market upside down, according to a retail pollster. Of the people who told ChangeWave Research in a mid-December survey that they planned to buy a smartphone in the next 90 days, 21\% said they expected to purchase an Android phone. That number represented a <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9143027/Demand\_for\_Android\_phones\_makes\_monstrous\_250\_jump">250\% increase</a> over the 6\% that pegged Android as their mobile OS of choice when ChangeWave last queried consumers' plans in September. 'That change rivals anything that we've seen in the last three years of the smartphone market,' said Paul Carton, ChangeWave's director of research, adding that the sudden surge in consumer interest in Android had 'roiled' the market. 'This is an indication that Android has finally caught consumer interest,' added Carton, who cited the <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9140718/Deathmatch\_Motorola\_Droid\_versus\_iPhone">recent advertising campaign for the Motorola Droid smartphone</a> as the reason why interest in Android has skyrocketed. Android's leap translated into good news for Motorola and HTC, the most prominent makers of Google-powered handsets, with the former reaping most of the benefit. Motorola's share of smartphone purchases in the next 90 days shot up from 1\% in September to 13\% in December. Carton tagged the company's Droid as the reason. '[It's] the first increase for Motorola we've seen in three years,' Carton said."</i> Here is the <a href="http://www.changewaveresearch.com/articles/2010/01/smart\_phone\_20100104.html">ChangeWave report</a>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>CWmike writes " A 'monstrous ' jump in demand for Android-equipped smartphones has turned the market upside down , according to a retail pollster .
Of the people who told ChangeWave Research in a mid-December survey that they planned to buy a smartphone in the next 90 days , 21 \ % said they expected to purchase an Android phone .
That number represented a 250 \ % increase over the 6 \ % that pegged Android as their mobile OS of choice when ChangeWave last queried consumers ' plans in September .
'That change rivals anything that we 've seen in the last three years of the smartphone market, ' said Paul Carton , ChangeWave 's director of research , adding that the sudden surge in consumer interest in Android had 'roiled ' the market .
'This is an indication that Android has finally caught consumer interest, ' added Carton , who cited the recent advertising campaign for the Motorola Droid smartphone as the reason why interest in Android has skyrocketed .
Android 's leap translated into good news for Motorola and HTC , the most prominent makers of Google-powered handsets , with the former reaping most of the benefit .
Motorola 's share of smartphone purchases in the next 90 days shot up from 1 \ % in September to 13 \ % in December .
Carton tagged the company 's Droid as the reason .
' [ It 's ] the first increase for Motorola we 've seen in three years, ' Carton said .
" Here is the ChangeWave report .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CWmike writes "A 'monstrous' jump in demand for Android-equipped smartphones has turned the market upside down, according to a retail pollster.
Of the people who told ChangeWave Research in a mid-December survey that they planned to buy a smartphone in the next 90 days, 21\% said they expected to purchase an Android phone.
That number represented a 250\% increase over the 6\% that pegged Android as their mobile OS of choice when ChangeWave last queried consumers' plans in September.
'That change rivals anything that we've seen in the last three years of the smartphone market,' said Paul Carton, ChangeWave's director of research, adding that the sudden surge in consumer interest in Android had 'roiled' the market.
'This is an indication that Android has finally caught consumer interest,' added Carton, who cited the recent advertising campaign for the Motorola Droid smartphone as the reason why interest in Android has skyrocketed.
Android's leap translated into good news for Motorola and HTC, the most prominent makers of Google-powered handsets, with the former reaping most of the benefit.
Motorola's share of smartphone purchases in the next 90 days shot up from 1\% in September to 13\% in December.
Carton tagged the company's Droid as the reason.
'[It's] the first increase for Motorola we've seen in three years,' Carton said.
" Here is the ChangeWave report.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Google is pushing the numbers by itself!</title>
	<author>ospirata</author>
	<datestamp>1262698800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They do not mention that, in a time frame smaller than 2 months, Google has gave to all its employees (more than 15.000 worldwide) a Motorolla Android-based phone.

For me, that kind of explain the number's twist.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They do not mention that , in a time frame smaller than 2 months , Google has gave to all its employees ( more than 15.000 worldwide ) a Motorolla Android-based phone .
For me , that kind of explain the number 's twist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They do not mention that, in a time frame smaller than 2 months, Google has gave to all its employees (more than 15.000 worldwide) a Motorolla Android-based phone.
For me, that kind of explain the number's twist.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650526</id>
	<title>Re:Of course</title>
	<author>glebovitz</author>
	<datestamp>1262620860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"So, Apple still wants to be Apple; and Google wants to be the new Microsoft"</p><p>I think this is way off the mark. Everyone wants to be in the business of providing the service behind the hardware and software. This is why Nokia bought Navteq and opened the OVI site and Google is eating up service oriented business. Apple is in the iTunes and app store business. Microsoft has been entering this business  too with Bing and Live Search.</p><p>I would say that everyone is jocking for being the cloud behind the device. Google is probably best positioned for the leadership role, but this is all a new market and things can change quickly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" So , Apple still wants to be Apple ; and Google wants to be the new Microsoft " I think this is way off the mark .
Everyone wants to be in the business of providing the service behind the hardware and software .
This is why Nokia bought Navteq and opened the OVI site and Google is eating up service oriented business .
Apple is in the iTunes and app store business .
Microsoft has been entering this business too with Bing and Live Search.I would say that everyone is jocking for being the cloud behind the device .
Google is probably best positioned for the leadership role , but this is all a new market and things can change quickly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"So, Apple still wants to be Apple; and Google wants to be the new Microsoft"I think this is way off the mark.
Everyone wants to be in the business of providing the service behind the hardware and software.
This is why Nokia bought Navteq and opened the OVI site and Google is eating up service oriented business.
Apple is in the iTunes and app store business.
Microsoft has been entering this business  too with Bing and Live Search.I would say that everyone is jocking for being the cloud behind the device.
Google is probably best positioned for the leadership role, but this is all a new market and things can change quickly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650244</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>That's Unpossible!</author>
	<datestamp>1262619000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ha, where is the time? Oh, I dunno, while I'm sleeping? Which I luckily do every night.</p><p>You'd have to recharge your phone every day also, if it actually did everything the iPhone does.</p><p>One of the "features" I loathe about people mocking the iPhone is that their arguments are so inane, and in most cases they've never bothered to try the iPhone, because of their preconceived notions about Apple products, or those of us too "stupid" to want to use a Linux-based device.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ha , where is the time ?
Oh , I dunno , while I 'm sleeping ?
Which I luckily do every night.You 'd have to recharge your phone every day also , if it actually did everything the iPhone does.One of the " features " I loathe about people mocking the iPhone is that their arguments are so inane , and in most cases they 've never bothered to try the iPhone , because of their preconceived notions about Apple products , or those of us too " stupid " to want to use a Linux-based device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ha, where is the time?
Oh, I dunno, while I'm sleeping?
Which I luckily do every night.You'd have to recharge your phone every day also, if it actually did everything the iPhone does.One of the "features" I loathe about people mocking the iPhone is that their arguments are so inane, and in most cases they've never bothered to try the iPhone, because of their preconceived notions about Apple products, or those of us too "stupid" to want to use a Linux-based device.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>todrules</author>
	<datestamp>1262626740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>T-Mobile also has Visual Voicemail. It comes on all of their Android devices, and even some of their Blackberrys as well. I believe Verizon has it, too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>T-Mobile also has Visual Voicemail .
It comes on all of their Android devices , and even some of their Blackberrys as well .
I believe Verizon has it , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>T-Mobile also has Visual Voicemail.
It comes on all of their Android devices, and even some of their Blackberrys as well.
I believe Verizon has it, too.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650086</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Lifyre</author>
	<datestamp>1262617980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm on Verizon with an Eris and I can do that whole visual voicemail thing.  Have a clue bat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm on Verizon with an Eris and I can do that whole visual voicemail thing .
Have a clue bat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm on Verizon with an Eris and I can do that whole visual voicemail thing.
Have a clue bat.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650316</id>
	<title>Die Microsoft die.   Long live Android.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262619480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Windows Mobile is on history's exit ramp.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows Mobile is on history 's exit ramp .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows Mobile is on history's exit ramp.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649546</id>
	<title>Re:Now 5 people use em!</title>
	<author>e2d2</author>
	<datestamp>1262614500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>On a more serious note: I love Google products, if only they'd market them better they'd be at the top with the iPhone easily.</i></p><p>Me thinks someone has been under a rock for the past year. Are you in the US? I ask that seriously because Android is everywhere here. Pick a network, they have an Android phone. Even AT&amp;T is supposedly getting one based on the Moto Cliq.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On a more serious note : I love Google products , if only they 'd market them better they 'd be at the top with the iPhone easily.Me thinks someone has been under a rock for the past year .
Are you in the US ?
I ask that seriously because Android is everywhere here .
Pick a network , they have an Android phone .
Even AT&amp;T is supposedly getting one based on the Moto Cliq .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On a more serious note: I love Google products, if only they'd market them better they'd be at the top with the iPhone easily.Me thinks someone has been under a rock for the past year.
Are you in the US?
I ask that seriously because Android is everywhere here.
Pick a network, they have an Android phone.
Even AT&amp;T is supposedly getting one based on the Moto Cliq.</sentencetext>
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	<title>They do have Bluetooth support</title>
	<author>Mr2001</author>
	<datestamp>1262783700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Other devices don't have this, and just having the ability to drop a phone in your car's dash to jam out to whatever you listen to makes an iPhone a nicer deal than Android phones which don't seem to have BlueTooth support.</p></div><p>Sounds like you've been misled - Android supports Bluetooth just fine.</p><p>I use my G1 to jam out in the car all the time, without connecting the phone to anything or even taking it out of my pocket. Stereo sound comes through the car speakers, and the prev/next/pause buttons on my stereo control the Android media player.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Other devices do n't have this , and just having the ability to drop a phone in your car 's dash to jam out to whatever you listen to makes an iPhone a nicer deal than Android phones which do n't seem to have BlueTooth support.Sounds like you 've been misled - Android supports Bluetooth just fine.I use my G1 to jam out in the car all the time , without connecting the phone to anything or even taking it out of my pocket .
Stereo sound comes through the car speakers , and the prev/next/pause buttons on my stereo control the Android media player .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Other devices don't have this, and just having the ability to drop a phone in your car's dash to jam out to whatever you listen to makes an iPhone a nicer deal than Android phones which don't seem to have BlueTooth support.Sounds like you've been misled - Android supports Bluetooth just fine.I use my G1 to jam out in the car all the time, without connecting the phone to anything or even taking it out of my pocket.
Stereo sound comes through the car speakers, and the prev/next/pause buttons on my stereo control the Android media player.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30657470</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>sproingie</author>
	<datestamp>1262716740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; The best part is if I select a restaurant it will bring up pertinent info on that restaurant such as its phone number and opening hours.</p><p>Actually what's really nice is you can then flip between the map and the Zagat reviews (or whatever you have in Oz) while you listen to some tunes to pass the time, then when you find one you like, call the restaurant, browse their menu on your phone while you're on the phone, quickly put your reservation into a reminder, then flip back to the menu while still on the call.</p><p>Minus the background tunes, I did exactly that just the other day, and I'm hardly some kind of tech wizard (I don't even read my email most days).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; The best part is if I select a restaurant it will bring up pertinent info on that restaurant such as its phone number and opening hours.Actually what 's really nice is you can then flip between the map and the Zagat reviews ( or whatever you have in Oz ) while you listen to some tunes to pass the time , then when you find one you like , call the restaurant , browse their menu on your phone while you 're on the phone , quickly put your reservation into a reminder , then flip back to the menu while still on the call.Minus the background tunes , I did exactly that just the other day , and I 'm hardly some kind of tech wizard ( I do n't even read my email most days ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; The best part is if I select a restaurant it will bring up pertinent info on that restaurant such as its phone number and opening hours.Actually what's really nice is you can then flip between the map and the Zagat reviews (or whatever you have in Oz) while you listen to some tunes to pass the time, then when you find one you like, call the restaurant, browse their menu on your phone while you're on the phone, quickly put your reservation into a reminder, then flip back to the menu while still on the call.Minus the background tunes, I did exactly that just the other day, and I'm hardly some kind of tech wizard (I don't even read my email most days).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30654280</id>
	<title>Re:You can't open iPhone without changing whole mo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262704260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nokia started it.  Idiots.</p><p>"Imagine the horror if you submitted something like that to app store<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)"</p><p>It's already available.  Jesus, do some basic research.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nokia started it .
Idiots. " Imagine the horror if you submitted something like that to app store : ) " It 's already available .
Jesus , do some basic research .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nokia started it.
Idiots."Imagine the horror if you submitted something like that to app store :)"It's already available.
Jesus, do some basic research.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649204</id>
	<title>Re:Calm before the storm?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262612880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Suck it, mac fag</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Suck it , mac fag</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Suck it, mac fag</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650440</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>RedWizzard</author>
	<datestamp>1262620140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone. I have never got a satisfying answer.</p></div><p>Well it's difficult to explain. As <a href="http://www.changewave.com/assets/alliance/reports/smart\_phone\_20091221/mobile\_os\_satisfaction.gif" title="changewave.com">this graph</a> [changewave.com] shows, they're more satisfying to own basically. They're just well designed.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone .
I have never got a satisfying answer.Well it 's difficult to explain .
As this graph [ changewave.com ] shows , they 're more satisfying to own basically .
They 're just well designed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone.
I have never got a satisfying answer.Well it's difficult to explain.
As this graph [changewave.com] shows, they're more satisfying to own basically.
They're just well designed.
	</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Wraithlyn</author>
	<datestamp>1262618040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I easily get two days out of a full charge, 3 if I push it.</p><p>Mind you, I don't use a lot of talk time.. I can see someone who talks on it for a couple hours a day easily draining in one day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I easily get two days out of a full charge , 3 if I push it.Mind you , I do n't use a lot of talk time.. I can see someone who talks on it for a couple hours a day easily draining in one day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I easily get two days out of a full charge, 3 if I push it.Mind you, I don't use a lot of talk time.. I can see someone who talks on it for a couple hours a day easily draining in one day.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650558</id>
	<title>Re:I just bought a Droid</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262621160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Absolutely.  Drag and drop music is what caused my wife to drop her iPhone and get an Android device as I've done.  That, and the fact IM is always on and always works.</p><p>I already manage my music collection pretty meticulously and hate-hate-hate dealing with iTunes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Absolutely .
Drag and drop music is what caused my wife to drop her iPhone and get an Android device as I 've done .
That , and the fact IM is always on and always works.I already manage my music collection pretty meticulously and hate-hate-hate dealing with iTunes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Absolutely.
Drag and drop music is what caused my wife to drop her iPhone and get an Android device as I've done.
That, and the fact IM is always on and always works.I already manage my music collection pretty meticulously and hate-hate-hate dealing with iTunes.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649938</id>
	<title>Alternative Title:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262617080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Verizon Finally Gets Credible SmartPhone</p><p>Seriously folks, this is pretty self-evident stuff.  Verizon has been suffering for the lack of a credible smart phone offering (yeah, yeah WinMo and Palm Centros don't really count).  Now they have one.  Many cell customers are wedded to Verizon as a carrier and won't switch.  Voila! Interest in Android spikes.  What will really get interesting is when consumers can choose between Android, Palm Pre and iPhone all from the same carrier.  Which will they choose then?  That's what I'm waiting for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Verizon Finally Gets Credible SmartPhoneSeriously folks , this is pretty self-evident stuff .
Verizon has been suffering for the lack of a credible smart phone offering ( yeah , yeah WinMo and Palm Centros do n't really count ) .
Now they have one .
Many cell customers are wedded to Verizon as a carrier and wo n't switch .
Voila ! Interest in Android spikes .
What will really get interesting is when consumers can choose between Android , Palm Pre and iPhone all from the same carrier .
Which will they choose then ?
That 's what I 'm waiting for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Verizon Finally Gets Credible SmartPhoneSeriously folks, this is pretty self-evident stuff.
Verizon has been suffering for the lack of a credible smart phone offering (yeah, yeah WinMo and Palm Centros don't really count).
Now they have one.
Many cell customers are wedded to Verizon as a carrier and won't switch.
Voila! Interest in Android spikes.
What will really get interesting is when consumers can choose between Android, Palm Pre and iPhone all from the same carrier.
Which will they choose then?
That's what I'm waiting for.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Alternative headline</title>
	<author>dfsmith</author>
	<datestamp>1262612460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Desire for half-decent non-AT&amp;T smartphone is less saturated than desire for AT&amp;T iPhone by those who haven't already got one."
<br>
<br>
I think this finding is more related to that fact that the only half-decent smartphone is currently limited to iPhone on AT&amp;T.
<i>(Sorry Blackberry/Palm/HTC---no lightsaber app means that you're less than half decent B-)</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Desire for half-decent non-AT&amp;T smartphone is less saturated than desire for AT&amp;T iPhone by those who have n't already got one .
" I think this finding is more related to that fact that the only half-decent smartphone is currently limited to iPhone on AT&amp;T .
( Sorry Blackberry/Palm/HTC---no lightsaber app means that you 're less than half decent B- )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Desire for half-decent non-AT&amp;T smartphone is less saturated than desire for AT&amp;T iPhone by those who haven't already got one.
"


I think this finding is more related to that fact that the only half-decent smartphone is currently limited to iPhone on AT&amp;T.
(Sorry Blackberry/Palm/HTC---no lightsaber app means that you're less than half decent B-)</sentencetext>
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	<title>Recent patch?</title>
	<author>Anachragnome</author>
	<datestamp>1262627400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has there been a recent patch to AdBlocker Plus?</p><p>It seems to be broken.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has there been a recent patch to AdBlocker Plus ? It seems to be broken .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has there been a recent patch to AdBlocker Plus?It seems to be broken.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650252</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>DeadCatX2</author>
	<datestamp>1262619120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone. I have never got a satisfying answer.</i></p><p>It was the first compelling smart phone.  That's about the only special thing about it.  Before the iPhone, everything was too glitchy or clunky for the populace to tolerate.  Now that Android has finally reached adolescence, the iPhone is just another smart phone locked onto AT&amp;T's network.</p><p><i>One of the "features" I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called "light users" have to charge it daily</i></p><p>Charge it while you sleep.  Buy a USB cord and plug it in at work.  Buy a car charger and plug it in if you have a long drive or use the navigation function (GPS sucks down the battery power, and that's not the phone's fault; stand-alone GPS have the same problem).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone .
I have never got a satisfying answer.It was the first compelling smart phone .
That 's about the only special thing about it .
Before the iPhone , everything was too glitchy or clunky for the populace to tolerate .
Now that Android has finally reached adolescence , the iPhone is just another smart phone locked onto AT&amp;T 's network.One of the " features " I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called " light users " have to charge it dailyCharge it while you sleep .
Buy a USB cord and plug it in at work .
Buy a car charger and plug it in if you have a long drive or use the navigation function ( GPS sucks down the battery power , and that 's not the phone 's fault ; stand-alone GPS have the same problem ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone.
I have never got a satisfying answer.It was the first compelling smart phone.
That's about the only special thing about it.
Before the iPhone, everything was too glitchy or clunky for the populace to tolerate.
Now that Android has finally reached adolescence, the iPhone is just another smart phone locked onto AT&amp;T's network.One of the "features" I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called "light users" have to charge it dailyCharge it while you sleep.
Buy a USB cord and plug it in at work.
Buy a car charger and plug it in if you have a long drive or use the navigation function (GPS sucks down the battery power, and that's not the phone's fault; stand-alone GPS have the same problem).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649182</id>
	<title>I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262612760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone. I have never got a satisfying answer.</p><p>One of the "features" I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called "light users" have to charge it <b>daily.</b> Insane...where is the time for such attention?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone .
I have never got a satisfying answer.One of the " features " I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called " light users " have to charge it daily .
Insane...where is the time for such attention ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone.
I have never got a satisfying answer.One of the "features" I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called "light users" have to charge it daily.
Insane...where is the time for such attention?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650058</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1262617800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some of the answers are obvious; I'm not sure what's unsatisfying about them.  It works well.  It's not complicated to set up.  It's functional as an iPod, which lots of people already owned.  The web browser renders pages normally, the way a desktop computer would.  It's mail application connects to mail servers normally, the way a desktop application would.  "Visual voicemail" works the way voicemail should work-- no more "if you would like to listen to this message, please press 1".  Apple proved that a touchscreen can work on a phone if it's executed properly.  If you own a Mac and use iTunes already, then the phone will integrate extraordinarily well with your system in a convenient way.  The iPhone had 8GB of storage built in for audio and video when most phones came with something more like 32 megs of internal storage.  Apple managed to get a large set of developers to produce applications for their phone.  The interface is simple and elegant, pretty, and responsive.
</p><p>Android's success doesn't surprise me either.  In a lot of ways, I think it's a validation of Apple's approach, and it proves that Apple's success wasn't simply based on hype and trendiness.  The Android phones that are now enjoying success actually resemble the iPhone much more than any of the pre-iPhone smartphones.  Look at the iPhone and the Motorola Q, and ask yourself which smartphone the Droid has more in common with.  Apple was successful because they made a well designed product.  Now Motorola is enjoying success because they've made a well designed product.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some of the answers are obvious ; I 'm not sure what 's unsatisfying about them .
It works well .
It 's not complicated to set up .
It 's functional as an iPod , which lots of people already owned .
The web browser renders pages normally , the way a desktop computer would .
It 's mail application connects to mail servers normally , the way a desktop application would .
" Visual voicemail " works the way voicemail should work-- no more " if you would like to listen to this message , please press 1 " .
Apple proved that a touchscreen can work on a phone if it 's executed properly .
If you own a Mac and use iTunes already , then the phone will integrate extraordinarily well with your system in a convenient way .
The iPhone had 8GB of storage built in for audio and video when most phones came with something more like 32 megs of internal storage .
Apple managed to get a large set of developers to produce applications for their phone .
The interface is simple and elegant , pretty , and responsive .
Android 's success does n't surprise me either .
In a lot of ways , I think it 's a validation of Apple 's approach , and it proves that Apple 's success was n't simply based on hype and trendiness .
The Android phones that are now enjoying success actually resemble the iPhone much more than any of the pre-iPhone smartphones .
Look at the iPhone and the Motorola Q , and ask yourself which smartphone the Droid has more in common with .
Apple was successful because they made a well designed product .
Now Motorola is enjoying success because they 've made a well designed product .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some of the answers are obvious; I'm not sure what's unsatisfying about them.
It works well.
It's not complicated to set up.
It's functional as an iPod, which lots of people already owned.
The web browser renders pages normally, the way a desktop computer would.
It's mail application connects to mail servers normally, the way a desktop application would.
"Visual voicemail" works the way voicemail should work-- no more "if you would like to listen to this message, please press 1".
Apple proved that a touchscreen can work on a phone if it's executed properly.
If you own a Mac and use iTunes already, then the phone will integrate extraordinarily well with your system in a convenient way.
The iPhone had 8GB of storage built in for audio and video when most phones came with something more like 32 megs of internal storage.
Apple managed to get a large set of developers to produce applications for their phone.
The interface is simple and elegant, pretty, and responsive.
Android's success doesn't surprise me either.
In a lot of ways, I think it's a validation of Apple's approach, and it proves that Apple's success wasn't simply based on hype and trendiness.
The Android phones that are now enjoying success actually resemble the iPhone much more than any of the pre-iPhone smartphones.
Look at the iPhone and the Motorola Q, and ask yourself which smartphone the Droid has more in common with.
Apple was successful because they made a well designed product.
Now Motorola is enjoying success because they've made a well designed product.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30670254</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>bjartur</author>
	<datestamp>1262796420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But it's Apple!</p><p>Suggesting a low-tech solution instead of a high-tech one is a dangerous thing to do on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. You're a hero that might save a few iPhones from their true rich Apple-ass-kHHHHH owners to some few 3rd nation guy selling it to put food on the table. What evil biz-people do to sell things!</p><p>You're a hero.</p><p>[/sarcasm]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But it 's Apple ! Suggesting a low-tech solution instead of a high-tech one is a dangerous thing to do on / .
You 're a hero that might save a few iPhones from their true rich Apple-ass-kHHHHH owners to some few 3rd nation guy selling it to put food on the table .
What evil biz-people do to sell things ! You 're a hero .
[ /sarcasm ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But it's Apple!Suggesting a low-tech solution instead of a high-tech one is a dangerous thing to do on /.
You're a hero that might save a few iPhones from their true rich Apple-ass-kHHHHH owners to some few 3rd nation guy selling it to put food on the table.
What evil biz-people do to sell things!You're a hero.
[/sarcasm]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649568</id>
	<title>Re:Competition works</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262614620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple designs a good phone and Google finally finds someone to rip it off properly, which will lead to Apple innovating more and Google and others eventually managing to rip them off properly again.</p><p>It is competition, but it's one of the weakest types -- competition by sheer undercutting the innovators in the market.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple designs a good phone and Google finally finds someone to rip it off properly , which will lead to Apple innovating more and Google and others eventually managing to rip them off properly again.It is competition , but it 's one of the weakest types -- competition by sheer undercutting the innovators in the market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple designs a good phone and Google finally finds someone to rip it off properly, which will lead to Apple innovating more and Google and others eventually managing to rip them off properly again.It is competition, but it's one of the weakest types -- competition by sheer undercutting the innovators in the market.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649432</id>
	<title>Re:Calm before the storm?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262613840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Youll need more than hope to survive teh fucking n1 you fucking apple piece of shit fanboy THE NEXUS ONE WILL RAPE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY</htmltext>
<tokenext>Youll need more than hope to survive teh fucking n1 you fucking apple piece of shit fanboy THE NEXUS ONE WILL RAPE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Youll need more than hope to survive teh fucking n1 you fucking apple piece of shit fanboy THE NEXUS ONE WILL RAPE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649592</id>
	<title>Re:Of course</title>
	<author>rtb61</author>
	<datestamp>1262614800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> Googles actual market model is to drive openness as that allows them easier access and prevents them from being locked out by proprietary control. The Android business strategy is about the disruption of proprietary controls be it Apple or M$. Oddly enough it is Apples iPhone success (break up of manufacturers proprietary operating systems or M$ dominance) that will drive Androids success, not really Google's, being open, once it is out there, it is out there. </p><p> Google is just endeavouring to shift the market to an position where it has had success competing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Googles actual market model is to drive openness as that allows them easier access and prevents them from being locked out by proprietary control .
The Android business strategy is about the disruption of proprietary controls be it Apple or M $ .
Oddly enough it is Apples iPhone success ( break up of manufacturers proprietary operating systems or M $ dominance ) that will drive Androids success , not really Google 's , being open , once it is out there , it is out there .
Google is just endeavouring to shift the market to an position where it has had success competing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Googles actual market model is to drive openness as that allows them easier access and prevents them from being locked out by proprietary control.
The Android business strategy is about the disruption of proprietary controls be it Apple or M$.
Oddly enough it is Apples iPhone success (break up of manufacturers proprietary operating systems or M$ dominance) that will drive Androids success, not really Google's, being open, once it is out there, it is out there.
Google is just endeavouring to shift the market to an position where it has had success competing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30653318</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1262693820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Sure beat having a big clunky book + large foldout map that screamed "tourist please rob me"</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Because no-one ever got mugged for their iPhone.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure beat having a big clunky book + large foldout map that screamed " tourist please rob me " Because no-one ever got mugged for their iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure beat having a big clunky book + large foldout map that screamed "tourist please rob me"

Because no-one ever got mugged for their iPhone.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650300</id>
	<title>Disco Stu</title>
	<author>r\_benchley</author>
	<datestamp>1262619420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Did you know that disco record sales were up 400\% for the year ending 1976? If these trends continues... AAY!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Did you know that disco record sales were up 400 \ % for the year ending 1976 ?
If these trends continues.. .
AAY ! "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Did you know that disco record sales were up 400\% for the year ending 1976?
If these trends continues...
AAY!"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30788272</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1263583320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Size of built-in storage is actually a bigger issue in iPhone than in contemporary or preceding phones; in those, yes, internal memory was often small, but it could be actually extended. Similarly...browser, many other functions - iPhone didn't pioneer them. What it certainly did do was having UI which exploits the hardware of its era, without historical cruft, beautifully integrated.</p><p>As for inspiration...hm, you might also look at, preceding iPhone, early Maemo tablets; too bad they weren't given mobile telephony module, probably due to corporate infighting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Size of built-in storage is actually a bigger issue in iPhone than in contemporary or preceding phones ; in those , yes , internal memory was often small , but it could be actually extended .
Similarly...browser , many other functions - iPhone did n't pioneer them .
What it certainly did do was having UI which exploits the hardware of its era , without historical cruft , beautifully integrated.As for inspiration...hm , you might also look at , preceding iPhone , early Maemo tablets ; too bad they were n't given mobile telephony module , probably due to corporate infighting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Size of built-in storage is actually a bigger issue in iPhone than in contemporary or preceding phones; in those, yes, internal memory was often small, but it could be actually extended.
Similarly...browser, many other functions - iPhone didn't pioneer them.
What it certainly did do was having UI which exploits the hardware of its era, without historical cruft, beautifully integrated.As for inspiration...hm, you might also look at, preceding iPhone, early Maemo tablets; too bad they weren't given mobile telephony module, probably due to corporate infighting.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650892</id>
	<title>Symbian users switching to Android?</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1262623680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have seen/heard several Symbian S60 users who wants to have a "new thing" and doesn't like the idea of not being able to multi task and closed app store buying Android phones instead of Windows Mobile phones.</p><p>Another thing is, with operator support and real cheap prices, people started to ignore S60 V5 (Nokia 5800, Satio) limitations and issues. Nevertheless, it is like OS X a bit, low in quantity apps but several mobile hits made their way into Symbian.</p><p>I only follow Symbian scene and Europe/South Asia, it could be very different in USA since Symbian is already a bit non existent there. What if Windows Mobile users did a similar decision? Like it or not, Windows Mobile is more like Symbian with open app stores/independent installs and multi tasking.</p><p>I really hope at least Android will wake up some trendy types and they will figure there is a whole universe out there, even including J2ME on some high end devices which can easily race with native apps. Trolltech owned by Nokia now, should also wake up and start releasing totally ready things for all those platforms and deliver "write once" promise which already got proven by KDE 4.<br>ps: Please don't even mention "jailbreak", I speak about official scene and yes, I know iPhone does multitask itself, it is UNIX. What matters is end user apps being allowed to multitask.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have seen/heard several Symbian S60 users who wants to have a " new thing " and does n't like the idea of not being able to multi task and closed app store buying Android phones instead of Windows Mobile phones.Another thing is , with operator support and real cheap prices , people started to ignore S60 V5 ( Nokia 5800 , Satio ) limitations and issues .
Nevertheless , it is like OS X a bit , low in quantity apps but several mobile hits made their way into Symbian.I only follow Symbian scene and Europe/South Asia , it could be very different in USA since Symbian is already a bit non existent there .
What if Windows Mobile users did a similar decision ?
Like it or not , Windows Mobile is more like Symbian with open app stores/independent installs and multi tasking.I really hope at least Android will wake up some trendy types and they will figure there is a whole universe out there , even including J2ME on some high end devices which can easily race with native apps .
Trolltech owned by Nokia now , should also wake up and start releasing totally ready things for all those platforms and deliver " write once " promise which already got proven by KDE 4.ps : Please do n't even mention " jailbreak " , I speak about official scene and yes , I know iPhone does multitask itself , it is UNIX .
What matters is end user apps being allowed to multitask .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have seen/heard several Symbian S60 users who wants to have a "new thing" and doesn't like the idea of not being able to multi task and closed app store buying Android phones instead of Windows Mobile phones.Another thing is, with operator support and real cheap prices, people started to ignore S60 V5 (Nokia 5800, Satio) limitations and issues.
Nevertheless, it is like OS X a bit, low in quantity apps but several mobile hits made their way into Symbian.I only follow Symbian scene and Europe/South Asia, it could be very different in USA since Symbian is already a bit non existent there.
What if Windows Mobile users did a similar decision?
Like it or not, Windows Mobile is more like Symbian with open app stores/independent installs and multi tasking.I really hope at least Android will wake up some trendy types and they will figure there is a whole universe out there, even including J2ME on some high end devices which can easily race with native apps.
Trolltech owned by Nokia now, should also wake up and start releasing totally ready things for all those platforms and deliver "write once" promise which already got proven by KDE 4.ps: Please don't even mention "jailbreak", I speak about official scene and yes, I know iPhone does multitask itself, it is UNIX.
What matters is end user apps being allowed to multitask.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650382</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>R3d M3rcury</author>
	<datestamp>1262619840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>One of the "features" I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called "light users" have to charge it <b>daily.</b></p> </div><p>Depends on a few things.</p><p>I tend to be a light user and I charge it once every 3-4 days.  That said, the times that I've used it lots, I've had to charge it every day.  I've also noticed that flaky network stuff (like when I'm somewhere with poor AT&amp;T reception) seems to cause the battery to run down dramatically.</p><p>So your mileage will vary.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the " features " I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called " light users " have to charge it daily .
Depends on a few things.I tend to be a light user and I charge it once every 3-4 days .
That said , the times that I 've used it lots , I 've had to charge it every day .
I 've also noticed that flaky network stuff ( like when I 'm somewhere with poor AT&amp;T reception ) seems to cause the battery to run down dramatically.So your mileage will vary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the "features" I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called "light users" have to charge it daily.
Depends on a few things.I tend to be a light user and I charge it once every 3-4 days.
That said, the times that I've used it lots, I've had to charge it every day.
I've also noticed that flaky network stuff (like when I'm somewhere with poor AT&amp;T reception) seems to cause the battery to run down dramatically.So your mileage will vary.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30664798</id>
	<title>Re:Die Microsoft die.  Long live Android.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262707020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and may it rot in hell!</p><p>No matter what the capabilities, it was a bloated, slow, buggy POS! Showing once again that Microsoft cannot do anything lean, mean and clean. While looking at the last round of smartphones, I tried to give Win Mobile a chance... it just didn't measure up. Thousands and thousands of H1B's and that's the best they could come up with?</p><p>It deserved to die.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and may it rot in hell ! No matter what the capabilities , it was a bloated , slow , buggy POS !
Showing once again that Microsoft can not do anything lean , mean and clean .
While looking at the last round of smartphones , I tried to give Win Mobile a chance... it just did n't measure up .
Thousands and thousands of H1B 's and that 's the best they could come up with ? It deserved to die .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and may it rot in hell!No matter what the capabilities, it was a bloated, slow, buggy POS!
Showing once again that Microsoft cannot do anything lean, mean and clean.
While looking at the last round of smartphones, I tried to give Win Mobile a chance... it just didn't measure up.
Thousands and thousands of H1B's and that's the best they could come up with?It deserved to die.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650700</id>
	<title>this is so not news..</title>
	<author>jabbathewocket</author>
	<datestamp>1262622360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"product gets wider availability and its market share increases, old product in same category has not been "rethought" in some time and loses some of its huge market share"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. the news is not that it happens.. but rather what the "old entrenched product" does to compete with the upstart..

Innovate out in front, react from behind, or bury head in sand and collect fat cash until suddenly they are no longer in business they thought they where in? (apple has done all 3 of the above in the past!)</htmltext>
<tokenext>" product gets wider availability and its market share increases , old product in same category has not been " rethought " in some time and loses some of its huge market share " .. the news is not that it happens.. but rather what the " old entrenched product " does to compete with the upstart. . Innovate out in front , react from behind , or bury head in sand and collect fat cash until suddenly they are no longer in business they thought they where in ?
( apple has done all 3 of the above in the past !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"product gets wider availability and its market share increases, old product in same category has not been "rethought" in some time and loses some of its huge market share" .. the news is not that it happens.. but rather what the "old entrenched product" does to compete with the upstart..

Innovate out in front, react from behind, or bury head in sand and collect fat cash until suddenly they are no longer in business they thought they where in?
(apple has done all 3 of the above in the past!
)</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:At the top...of what?</title>
	<author>gabebear</author>
	<datestamp>1262724300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Where'd you get the 4\%? Currently, it looks like <a href="http://www.intomobile.com/2009/05/21/not-surprising-iphone-doubles-global-smartphone-market-share.html" title="intomobile.com" rel="nofollow">Apple has 10+\% of global smartphones</a> [intomobile.com] and <a href="http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/12/17/iphone-tops-windows-mobile-in-u-s-marketshare-for-first-time/" title="boygeniusreport.com" rel="nofollow">almost a third of the US market</a> [boygeniusreport.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where 'd you get the 4 \ % ?
Currently , it looks like Apple has 10 + \ % of global smartphones [ intomobile.com ] and almost a third of the US market [ boygeniusreport.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where'd you get the 4\%?
Currently, it looks like Apple has 10+\% of global smartphones [intomobile.com] and almost a third of the US market [boygeniusreport.com].</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30656564</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Aceticon</author>
	<datestamp>1262713980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I recently went to a trip to Budapest, Hungary. I downloaded apps which included an offline map of the city (so no data use), maps of the metro system, and an audio tourist guide. It was like having my own personal tourist guide. When back at the hotel I used Skype over wifi to call home cheap. Sure beat having a big clunky book + large foldout map that screamed "tourist please rob me".</p></div></blockquote><p>Interestingly enough my Nokia E51 has most of the same features and here in the UK it costs 1/3 of the price of an iPhone 3G (without a contract).</p><p>As a matter of fact, in my summer vacations in Canada I loaded it with the map of the whole country for free from Nokia themselfs and then used it (offline) while I went from Vancouver to Montreal both in-city and outside (i do have to confess that the rail-line information in the middle of the Rockies was incomplete).</p><p>The reason why the iPhone looks so good to Americans is not that the iPhone is that great, it's that most of the other phones you get there are Charlie Romeo Alpha Papa.</p><p>(which explains why the iPhone has a much larger marketshare in the US that anywhere else - and all marketshare comparissons outside the US are against "smartphones": my Nokia E51 aparently isn't one)</p></div>
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<tokenext>I recently went to a trip to Budapest , Hungary .
I downloaded apps which included an offline map of the city ( so no data use ) , maps of the metro system , and an audio tourist guide .
It was like having my own personal tourist guide .
When back at the hotel I used Skype over wifi to call home cheap .
Sure beat having a big clunky book + large foldout map that screamed " tourist please rob me " .Interestingly enough my Nokia E51 has most of the same features and here in the UK it costs 1/3 of the price of an iPhone 3G ( without a contract ) .As a matter of fact , in my summer vacations in Canada I loaded it with the map of the whole country for free from Nokia themselfs and then used it ( offline ) while I went from Vancouver to Montreal both in-city and outside ( i do have to confess that the rail-line information in the middle of the Rockies was incomplete ) .The reason why the iPhone looks so good to Americans is not that the iPhone is that great , it 's that most of the other phones you get there are Charlie Romeo Alpha Papa .
( which explains why the iPhone has a much larger marketshare in the US that anywhere else - and all marketshare comparissons outside the US are against " smartphones " : my Nokia E51 aparently is n't one )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recently went to a trip to Budapest, Hungary.
I downloaded apps which included an offline map of the city (so no data use), maps of the metro system, and an audio tourist guide.
It was like having my own personal tourist guide.
When back at the hotel I used Skype over wifi to call home cheap.
Sure beat having a big clunky book + large foldout map that screamed "tourist please rob me".Interestingly enough my Nokia E51 has most of the same features and here in the UK it costs 1/3 of the price of an iPhone 3G (without a contract).As a matter of fact, in my summer vacations in Canada I loaded it with the map of the whole country for free from Nokia themselfs and then used it (offline) while I went from Vancouver to Montreal both in-city and outside (i do have to confess that the rail-line information in the middle of the Rockies was incomplete).The reason why the iPhone looks so good to Americans is not that the iPhone is that great, it's that most of the other phones you get there are Charlie Romeo Alpha Papa.
(which explains why the iPhone has a much larger marketshare in the US that anywhere else - and all marketshare comparissons outside the US are against "smartphones": my Nokia E51 aparently isn't one)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30651232</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>The End Of Days</author>
	<datestamp>1262626560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's so special about any given device?  It meets the needs of the people who bought it.  If it doesn't meet your needs, that's cool - it doesn't diminish the value to people who aren't you. If that answer isn't satisfying to you, then I don't know what to say.  You aren't the arbiter of taste and never will be.</p><p>I often wonder why people have to deride those who like the iPhone, and similarly have never received a satisfying answer.  Care to take a reciprocal crack at it for me?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's so special about any given device ?
It meets the needs of the people who bought it .
If it does n't meet your needs , that 's cool - it does n't diminish the value to people who are n't you .
If that answer is n't satisfying to you , then I do n't know what to say .
You are n't the arbiter of taste and never will be.I often wonder why people have to deride those who like the iPhone , and similarly have never received a satisfying answer .
Care to take a reciprocal crack at it for me ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's so special about any given device?
It meets the needs of the people who bought it.
If it doesn't meet your needs, that's cool - it doesn't diminish the value to people who aren't you.
If that answer isn't satisfying to you, then I don't know what to say.
You aren't the arbiter of taste and never will be.I often wonder why people have to deride those who like the iPhone, and similarly have never received a satisfying answer.
Care to take a reciprocal crack at it for me?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I plan on writing a post after I write the subj</title>
	<author>RedWizzard</author>
	<datestamp>1262620680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Notice that this wasn't a report of 250\% sales growth... it was a report of 250\% increase in a poll asking "What cell phone do you PLAN to buy?"... not quite the same thing.</p></div><p>Also worth noting is the complete lack of any mention of the margin of error. And the report also doesn't really explain what is losing out to Android. The summary implies it's the iPhone, but TFA says that iPhone demand went from 32\% to 28\% - only a small fraction of the 15 points that Android picked up. From <a href="http://www.changewaveresearch.com/articles/2010/01/smart\_phone\_20100104.html" title="changewaveresearch.com">the original story</a> [changewaveresearch.com] the numbers are:<br>
iPhone from 32 (Sept 09) fell to 28 (Dec 09)<br>
Android from 6 rose to 21<br>
Blackberry from 17 stayed basically stable at 18<br>
Windows Mobile dropped from 9 to 6<br>
Palm OS/Web OS dropped from 6 to 3.<br>
That leaves 30\% unaccounted for in the September numbers and 24\% unaccounted for in the December numbers.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Notice that this was n't a report of 250 \ % sales growth... it was a report of 250 \ % increase in a poll asking " What cell phone do you PLAN to buy ? " .. .
not quite the same thing.Also worth noting is the complete lack of any mention of the margin of error .
And the report also does n't really explain what is losing out to Android .
The summary implies it 's the iPhone , but TFA says that iPhone demand went from 32 \ % to 28 \ % - only a small fraction of the 15 points that Android picked up .
From the original story [ changewaveresearch.com ] the numbers are : iPhone from 32 ( Sept 09 ) fell to 28 ( Dec 09 ) Android from 6 rose to 21 Blackberry from 17 stayed basically stable at 18 Windows Mobile dropped from 9 to 6 Palm OS/Web OS dropped from 6 to 3 .
That leaves 30 \ % unaccounted for in the September numbers and 24 \ % unaccounted for in the December numbers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Notice that this wasn't a report of 250\% sales growth... it was a report of 250\% increase in a poll asking "What cell phone do you PLAN to buy?"...
not quite the same thing.Also worth noting is the complete lack of any mention of the margin of error.
And the report also doesn't really explain what is losing out to Android.
The summary implies it's the iPhone, but TFA says that iPhone demand went from 32\% to 28\% - only a small fraction of the 15 points that Android picked up.
From the original story [changewaveresearch.com] the numbers are:
iPhone from 32 (Sept 09) fell to 28 (Dec 09)
Android from 6 rose to 21
Blackberry from 17 stayed basically stable at 18
Windows Mobile dropped from 9 to 6
Palm OS/Web OS dropped from 6 to 3.
That leaves 30\% unaccounted for in the September numbers and 24\% unaccounted for in the December numbers.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649020</id>
	<title>Not What We're Looking At</title>
	<author>CritterNYC</author>
	<datestamp>1262611980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The number that changed a lot was people who were planning to buy a new smartphone in the next 90 days.  Of these, 21\% said they prefer a phone running Android.  (That's up from 6\% in September.)  28\% said they prefer an iPhone, down from 32\% in September.  Windows Mobile and Palm's percentages also shrank over the last 3 months.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The number that changed a lot was people who were planning to buy a new smartphone in the next 90 days .
Of these , 21 \ % said they prefer a phone running Android .
( That 's up from 6 \ % in September .
) 28 \ % said they prefer an iPhone , down from 32 \ % in September .
Windows Mobile and Palm 's percentages also shrank over the last 3 months .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The number that changed a lot was people who were planning to buy a new smartphone in the next 90 days.
Of these, 21\% said they prefer a phone running Android.
(That's up from 6\% in September.
)  28\% said they prefer an iPhone, down from 32\% in September.
Windows Mobile and Palm's percentages also shrank over the last 3 months.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30652608</id>
	<title>Re:Competition works</title>
	<author>Uberbah</author>
	<datestamp>1262685060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Imagine that! Competition works! If regulators would only get that through their heads...with enough time, consumers will win in the end as a result of competition.</i></p><p>Right, which is why Europeans and the Japanese have 30 Mbps internet connections for less than what I pay for 1.5 Mpbs dsl here in the states.  And why freaking Cuba has comparable health care quality for 1/27th as much as what we spend per patient, only their care is universal.</p><p>So why don't you go ahead and move on out to your <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDv4sYwjO0" title="youtube.com">Libertarian Paradise</a> [youtube.com] where your kids can enjoy their peanut butter &amp; salmonella sandwiches with their arsenic laced drinking water.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine that !
Competition works !
If regulators would only get that through their heads...with enough time , consumers will win in the end as a result of competition.Right , which is why Europeans and the Japanese have 30 Mbps internet connections for less than what I pay for 1.5 Mpbs dsl here in the states .
And why freaking Cuba has comparable health care quality for 1/27th as much as what we spend per patient , only their care is universal.So why do n't you go ahead and move on out to your Libertarian Paradise [ youtube.com ] where your kids can enjoy their peanut butter &amp; salmonella sandwiches with their arsenic laced drinking water .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine that!
Competition works!
If regulators would only get that through their heads...with enough time, consumers will win in the end as a result of competition.Right, which is why Europeans and the Japanese have 30 Mbps internet connections for less than what I pay for 1.5 Mpbs dsl here in the states.
And why freaking Cuba has comparable health care quality for 1/27th as much as what we spend per patient, only their care is universal.So why don't you go ahead and move on out to your Libertarian Paradise [youtube.com] where your kids can enjoy their peanut butter &amp; salmonella sandwiches with their arsenic laced drinking water.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649716</id>
	<title>Re:I just bought a Droid</title>
	<author>twoDigitIq</author>
	<datestamp>1262615640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I held out forever with a Razr and no smartphone. It wasn't a money issue, work offered to buy me an iPhone a long time ago. The wife (and damn near everyone else I know) has an iPhone. I've used them but never liked them. And the rampant fanboyism drove the last nail in Apple's coffin for me. (Seriously, you people and your blind freakin' loyalty just make me want to puke right after I nut-kick you.) I bought a Droid the day it was released and I'm, (how do I say it?) satisfied. It has a few fairly annoying shortcomings, and to be honest if the Nexus One was (rumored to be) available on a decent carrier here in the US I'd be kicking myself for not waiting a little longer for a better hardware/design package with the Android OS.

Granted I'm surely not in the majority here, but I am pretty impressed with Android so far. I don't see the Droid (or any device currently forthcoming) as an "iPhone killer" but it certainly filled a niche with weird folks like me. I'm just glad there is a choice now and more choices to come. And no I never saw WinMo or Palm as a valid choice, had horrid experiences with both of em. Never tried a Blackberry though, might have been tolerable.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I held out forever with a Razr and no smartphone .
It was n't a money issue , work offered to buy me an iPhone a long time ago .
The wife ( and damn near everyone else I know ) has an iPhone .
I 've used them but never liked them .
And the rampant fanboyism drove the last nail in Apple 's coffin for me .
( Seriously , you people and your blind freakin ' loyalty just make me want to puke right after I nut-kick you .
) I bought a Droid the day it was released and I 'm , ( how do I say it ?
) satisfied .
It has a few fairly annoying shortcomings , and to be honest if the Nexus One was ( rumored to be ) available on a decent carrier here in the US I 'd be kicking myself for not waiting a little longer for a better hardware/design package with the Android OS .
Granted I 'm surely not in the majority here , but I am pretty impressed with Android so far .
I do n't see the Droid ( or any device currently forthcoming ) as an " iPhone killer " but it certainly filled a niche with weird folks like me .
I 'm just glad there is a choice now and more choices to come .
And no I never saw WinMo or Palm as a valid choice , had horrid experiences with both of em .
Never tried a Blackberry though , might have been tolerable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I held out forever with a Razr and no smartphone.
It wasn't a money issue, work offered to buy me an iPhone a long time ago.
The wife (and damn near everyone else I know) has an iPhone.
I've used them but never liked them.
And the rampant fanboyism drove the last nail in Apple's coffin for me.
(Seriously, you people and your blind freakin' loyalty just make me want to puke right after I nut-kick you.
) I bought a Droid the day it was released and I'm, (how do I say it?
) satisfied.
It has a few fairly annoying shortcomings, and to be honest if the Nexus One was (rumored to be) available on a decent carrier here in the US I'd be kicking myself for not waiting a little longer for a better hardware/design package with the Android OS.
Granted I'm surely not in the majority here, but I am pretty impressed with Android so far.
I don't see the Droid (or any device currently forthcoming) as an "iPhone killer" but it certainly filled a niche with weird folks like me.
I'm just glad there is a choice now and more choices to come.
And no I never saw WinMo or Palm as a valid choice, had horrid experiences with both of em.
Never tried a Blackberry though, might have been tolerable.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>samkass</author>
	<datestamp>1262613720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I sleep 6-8 hours a day and rarely use my iPhone while doing so.  Like many clock radio these days, I got mine with an iPod/iPhone dock that charges it and/or plays music from it and it's sitting by my bed.  It's really not that hard considering the utility it provides.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I sleep 6-8 hours a day and rarely use my iPhone while doing so .
Like many clock radio these days , I got mine with an iPod/iPhone dock that charges it and/or plays music from it and it 's sitting by my bed .
It 's really not that hard considering the utility it provides .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I sleep 6-8 hours a day and rarely use my iPhone while doing so.
Like many clock radio these days, I got mine with an iPod/iPhone dock that charges it and/or plays music from it and it's sitting by my bed.
It's really not that hard considering the utility it provides.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650804</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Graff</author>
	<datestamp>1262623080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>One of the "features" I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called "light users" have to charge it daily. Insane...where is the time for such attention?</p></div><p>I often go for several days without charging mine and I use it quite a bit. Granted most of my use is as a music player, scheduler, e-mail, and googling stuff. I use it as a phone for maybe an hour or two a day. I don't know if that makes me a light user but I'm certainly not a heavy user.</p><p>I have used it for several hours of talk and it's still lasted me at least a day and change but I've never sat there and seen how quickly I could drain the battery. I suppose if I was that type of user I could always look into a <a href="http://www.iphoneness.com/iphone-accessories/5-best-iphone-3g-battery-extenders/" title="iphoneness.com">battery extender</a> [iphoneness.com].</p><p>As for what is special about the iPhone there's a lot of things. Tons of great apps, with a lot of nice free ones. Simple user interface that stays out of your way and lets you quickly and easily use the device. Great integration with e-mail and contacts. I could go on, there's a lot of features that are shared by one device or another but the iPhone collects them all into one convenient package.</p></div>
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<tokenext>One of the " features " I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called " light users " have to charge it daily .
Insane...where is the time for such attention ? I often go for several days without charging mine and I use it quite a bit .
Granted most of my use is as a music player , scheduler , e-mail , and googling stuff .
I use it as a phone for maybe an hour or two a day .
I do n't know if that makes me a light user but I 'm certainly not a heavy user.I have used it for several hours of talk and it 's still lasted me at least a day and change but I 've never sat there and seen how quickly I could drain the battery .
I suppose if I was that type of user I could always look into a battery extender [ iphoneness.com ] .As for what is special about the iPhone there 's a lot of things .
Tons of great apps , with a lot of nice free ones .
Simple user interface that stays out of your way and lets you quickly and easily use the device .
Great integration with e-mail and contacts .
I could go on , there 's a lot of features that are shared by one device or another but the iPhone collects them all into one convenient package .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the "features" I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called "light users" have to charge it daily.
Insane...where is the time for such attention?I often go for several days without charging mine and I use it quite a bit.
Granted most of my use is as a music player, scheduler, e-mail, and googling stuff.
I use it as a phone for maybe an hour or two a day.
I don't know if that makes me a light user but I'm certainly not a heavy user.I have used it for several hours of talk and it's still lasted me at least a day and change but I've never sat there and seen how quickly I could drain the battery.
I suppose if I was that type of user I could always look into a battery extender [iphoneness.com].As for what is special about the iPhone there's a lot of things.
Tons of great apps, with a lot of nice free ones.
Simple user interface that stays out of your way and lets you quickly and easily use the device.
Great integration with e-mail and contacts.
I could go on, there's a lot of features that are shared by one device or another but the iPhone collects them all into one convenient package.
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	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>startled</author>
	<datestamp>1262619000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone. I have never got a satisfying answer.</p></div><p>If you're saying the iPhone isn't appealing to you, great.  Fine.  Whatever.  Have some free mod points from people who agree with you.</p><p>If you're saying you don't understand people-- if you're saying you honestly try to put yourself in other folks' shoes, try to empathize with them, try to see why they love what they love, but you <i>just can't</i>-- well, congratulations, you're a geek.  You've come to the right place.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone .
I have never got a satisfying answer.If you 're saying the iPhone is n't appealing to you , great .
Fine. Whatever .
Have some free mod points from people who agree with you.If you 're saying you do n't understand people-- if you 're saying you honestly try to put yourself in other folks ' shoes , try to empathize with them , try to see why they love what they love , but you just ca n't-- well , congratulations , you 're a geek .
You 've come to the right place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone.
I have never got a satisfying answer.If you're saying the iPhone isn't appealing to you, great.
Fine.  Whatever.
Have some free mod points from people who agree with you.If you're saying you don't understand people-- if you're saying you honestly try to put yourself in other folks' shoes, try to empathize with them, try to see why they love what they love, but you just can't-- well, congratulations, you're a geek.
You've come to the right place.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30653844</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Eunuchswear</author>
	<datestamp>1262701020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The web browser renders pages normally, the way a desktop computer would.</p></div> </blockquote><p>It does flash now?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The web browser renders pages normally , the way a desktop computer would .
It does flash now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The web browser renders pages normally, the way a desktop computer would.
It does flash now?
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	<title>And more GPL violations by manufactures</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262618160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The only downside is many of the manufactures now violate the GPLv2 copyright either by refusing to release the kernel sources or dragging their feet for months...

For example HTC keeps violating the GPL with their phones... go ask HTC specifically for the Kernel (not the Android software) for their CDMA phones and they'll either point you to the GSM version of the kernel, claim that their kernel modifications fall under the Apache license, are proprietary or claim that Sprint and/or Verizon have to release it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only downside is many of the manufactures now violate the GPLv2 copyright either by refusing to release the kernel sources or dragging their feet for months.. . For example HTC keeps violating the GPL with their phones... go ask HTC specifically for the Kernel ( not the Android software ) for their CDMA phones and they 'll either point you to the GSM version of the kernel , claim that their kernel modifications fall under the Apache license , are proprietary or claim that Sprint and/or Verizon have to release it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only downside is many of the manufactures now violate the GPLv2 copyright either by refusing to release the kernel sources or dragging their feet for months...

For example HTC keeps violating the GPL with their phones... go ask HTC specifically for the Kernel (not the Android software) for their CDMA phones and they'll either point you to the GSM version of the kernel, claim that their kernel modifications fall under the Apache license, are proprietary or claim that Sprint and/or Verizon have to release it.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Theres an app for that!</title>
	<author>gearloos</author>
	<datestamp>1262617980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lets see em make an app to fix this!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lets see em make an app to fix this !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lets see em make an app to fix this!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30651940</id>
	<title>250\% from next to nothing, still is next to nothin</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1262634360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It would require more like 25,000\% more demand, to be even considered as a target platform by me.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Oh, and if you dare to lock it down, like Apple, you lost the game before it started.</p><p>&mdash; A mobile software developer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would require more like 25,000 \ % more demand , to be even considered as a target platform by me .
: ) Oh , and if you dare to lock it down , like Apple , you lost the game before it started.    A mobile software developer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would require more like 25,000\% more demand, to be even considered as a target platform by me.
:)Oh, and if you dare to lock it down, like Apple, you lost the game before it started.— A mobile software developer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649430</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>broken\_chaos</author>
	<datestamp>1262613840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Insane...where is the time for such attention?</p></div><p>When you're asleep?</p><p>Though I agree that battery life could be much better, if people are indeed running into such problems so easily. My BlackBerry can go, during light usage (such as the just-past holiday!) for up to a week and a half on a single charge.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Insane...where is the time for such attention ? When you 're asleep ? Though I agree that battery life could be much better , if people are indeed running into such problems so easily .
My BlackBerry can go , during light usage ( such as the just-past holiday !
) for up to a week and a half on a single charge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Insane...where is the time for such attention?When you're asleep?Though I agree that battery life could be much better, if people are indeed running into such problems so easily.
My BlackBerry can go, during light usage (such as the just-past holiday!
) for up to a week and a half on a single charge.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649182</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30651278</id>
	<title>Re:At the top...of what?</title>
	<author>jo42</author>
	<datestamp>1262627100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the iPhone, while quite cool conceptually, suffers from some very lame design issues</p></div><p>For every "lame design issue" in the iPhone, there is one in Android.</p><p>It's the nature of resource restricted platforms that trade-offs have to be made - these ain't multi-core desktops with gigabytes of RAM and terabytes of disk space.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the iPhone , while quite cool conceptually , suffers from some very lame design issuesFor every " lame design issue " in the iPhone , there is one in Android.It 's the nature of resource restricted platforms that trade-offs have to be made - these ai n't multi-core desktops with gigabytes of RAM and terabytes of disk space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the iPhone, while quite cool conceptually, suffers from some very lame design issuesFor every "lame design issue" in the iPhone, there is one in Android.It's the nature of resource restricted platforms that trade-offs have to be made - these ain't multi-core desktops with gigabytes of RAM and terabytes of disk space.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650780</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650336</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262619600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The ability to see all of your voice mails without having to listen to them sequentially. You have a list, you can listen to any of them in any order. And you don't have to listen to them at all and still be able to delete them. - you can't do that with other services. That is why Apple is exclusive to ATT because the other carriers refused to do the necessary things to their systems to allow for that.</p></div><p>My Moto Cliq (T-Mobile) does this as well. I believe T-Mo has an app for its other Android phones to allow this.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The ability to see all of your voice mails without having to listen to them sequentially .
You have a list , you can listen to any of them in any order .
And you do n't have to listen to them at all and still be able to delete them .
- you ca n't do that with other services .
That is why Apple is exclusive to ATT because the other carriers refused to do the necessary things to their systems to allow for that.My Moto Cliq ( T-Mobile ) does this as well .
I believe T-Mo has an app for its other Android phones to allow this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The ability to see all of your voice mails without having to listen to them sequentially.
You have a list, you can listen to any of them in any order.
And you don't have to listen to them at all and still be able to delete them.
- you can't do that with other services.
That is why Apple is exclusive to ATT because the other carriers refused to do the necessary things to their systems to allow for that.My Moto Cliq (T-Mobile) does this as well.
I believe T-Mo has an app for its other Android phones to allow this.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649386</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649644</id>
	<title>Re:Googles-to-Apples Comparison</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1262615160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You give people too much credit.</p><p>If the next iphone is available in "DESIGNER COLORS" they will flock to it like lemmings off a cliff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You give people too much credit.If the next iphone is available in " DESIGNER COLORS " they will flock to it like lemmings off a cliff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You give people too much credit.If the next iphone is available in "DESIGNER COLORS" they will flock to it like lemmings off a cliff.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649330</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30651226</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>zn0k</author>
	<datestamp>1262626560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The reload button in the URL bar turns into a stop button during page load. Works exactly as you'd expect from browser - if the new page has loaded far enough that it's ready to display something you'll have to go back. If it hasn't you're still on the original page.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The reload button in the URL bar turns into a stop button during page load .
Works exactly as you 'd expect from browser - if the new page has loaded far enough that it 's ready to display something you 'll have to go back .
If it has n't you 're still on the original page .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reload button in the URL bar turns into a stop button during page load.
Works exactly as you'd expect from browser - if the new page has loaded far enough that it's ready to display something you'll have to go back.
If it hasn't you're still on the original page.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650052</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30651688</id>
	<title>Try ~3 days</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1262631300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use my iPhone for a decent amount of browsing, a number of apps and a few calls.  The only way I'd have to charge daily is if I left a GPS app open and running constantly for a whole day.</p><p>I used my iPhone as a GPS unit while on a multi-day hut hike, and conserving the use a bit I still had more than 50\% power after two full days.</p><p>So I don't know where you get your numbers from but there's no way you have to charge an iPhone every day.  You may want to look over to phones that are multitasking more for those kinds of recharge rates...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use my iPhone for a decent amount of browsing , a number of apps and a few calls .
The only way I 'd have to charge daily is if I left a GPS app open and running constantly for a whole day.I used my iPhone as a GPS unit while on a multi-day hut hike , and conserving the use a bit I still had more than 50 \ % power after two full days.So I do n't know where you get your numbers from but there 's no way you have to charge an iPhone every day .
You may want to look over to phones that are multitasking more for those kinds of recharge rates.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use my iPhone for a decent amount of browsing, a number of apps and a few calls.
The only way I'd have to charge daily is if I left a GPS app open and running constantly for a whole day.I used my iPhone as a GPS unit while on a multi-day hut hike, and conserving the use a bit I still had more than 50\% power after two full days.So I don't know where you get your numbers from but there's no way you have to charge an iPhone every day.
You may want to look over to phones that are multitasking more for those kinds of recharge rates...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649182</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649620</id>
	<title>Re:Not What We're Looking At</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1262615040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll bet the numbers reflect the "What it's not on the crappy AT&amp;T network?  sign me up!"  more than what OS it's running.</p><p>Honestly, even non 3G service for just regular phone calls on AT&amp;T lately has went from the normal crappy to utterly dismal even in good coverage places like Chicago.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll bet the numbers reflect the " What it 's not on the crappy AT&amp;T network ?
sign me up !
" more than what OS it 's running.Honestly , even non 3G service for just regular phone calls on AT&amp;T lately has went from the normal crappy to utterly dismal even in good coverage places like Chicago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll bet the numbers reflect the "What it's not on the crappy AT&amp;T network?
sign me up!
"  more than what OS it's running.Honestly, even non 3G service for just regular phone calls on AT&amp;T lately has went from the normal crappy to utterly dismal even in good coverage places like Chicago.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649020</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649210</id>
	<title>I just bought a Droid</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262612880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a Macbook, Mac Mini and an iPod Touch, and I opted for a Droid.  I think the #1 reason I went with the Droid was because it wasn't AT&amp;T.  But a close second was the fact that music was drag and drop and that it could run background apps.  Overall, I am really please with the purchase.  Ordered the multimedia dock today, so I can use it as an alarm clock.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Macbook , Mac Mini and an iPod Touch , and I opted for a Droid .
I think the # 1 reason I went with the Droid was because it was n't AT&amp;T .
But a close second was the fact that music was drag and drop and that it could run background apps .
Overall , I am really please with the purchase .
Ordered the multimedia dock today , so I can use it as an alarm clock .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Macbook, Mac Mini and an iPod Touch, and I opted for a Droid.
I think the #1 reason I went with the Droid was because it wasn't AT&amp;T.
But a close second was the fact that music was drag and drop and that it could run background apps.
Overall, I am really please with the purchase.
Ordered the multimedia dock today, so I can use it as an alarm clock.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30651230</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1262626560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>maps of the metro system,.... I downloaded apps which included an offline map of the city (so no data use)</p></div></blockquote><p>

Google Maps by default. Here in Perth it links in with the transperth data (public transport), displays all stops and which services stop there, can plot routes from point to point via car, public transport or walking. In addition to this I get ATM locations, petrol stations, points of interest, restaurants and a variety of other layers that can be turned on and off. The best part is if I select a restaurant it will bring up pertinent info on that restaurant such as its phone number and opening hours.</p><blockquote><div><p>When back at the hotel I used Skype over wifi to call home cheap.</p></div></blockquote><p>

already a variety of SIP/Skype applications that use 3G or WiFi.</p><blockquote><div><p>Sure beat having a big clunky book + large foldout map that screamed "tourist please rob me".</p></div> </blockquote><p>

Instead you walked around all day staring at your iphone, which said, I'm a tourist, I'm distracted, I have too much money, please rob me. If I have a paper map, it's generally assumed I don't have a lot of money to waste (and your CC, Passport and the majority of your cash should be secured at your hotel, any remotely seasoned traveller knows this).<br> <br>

I was in Bangkok in October 2007 there was a yank on the Skytrain who was in love with his iphone, he kept showing it to Thai's that would be lucky to make 500 Baht a day (US$15 at the time) but he insisted on shoving a 45,000 Baht phone in the faces of some disinterested Thai girl (street value of an Iphone in Thailand in 2007, A$1,500). When he got up to leave at his stop he bumped into a Thai bloke, after the usual "very sorry" the American left and the Thai bloke was admiring his new Iphone, the Yank hadn't noticed by the time the train had left the station. I wonder how long it took him to notice.<br> <br>

The amount of people I see walking around Perth looking into their iphones oblivious to the outside world, they would be an extremely easy theft target in a 3rd world nation. Plus it's always funny when they walk into poles, traffic, walls or other people because they werent watching where they were going.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>maps of the metro system,.... I downloaded apps which included an offline map of the city ( so no data use ) Google Maps by default .
Here in Perth it links in with the transperth data ( public transport ) , displays all stops and which services stop there , can plot routes from point to point via car , public transport or walking .
In addition to this I get ATM locations , petrol stations , points of interest , restaurants and a variety of other layers that can be turned on and off .
The best part is if I select a restaurant it will bring up pertinent info on that restaurant such as its phone number and opening hours.When back at the hotel I used Skype over wifi to call home cheap .
already a variety of SIP/Skype applications that use 3G or WiFi.Sure beat having a big clunky book + large foldout map that screamed " tourist please rob me " .
Instead you walked around all day staring at your iphone , which said , I 'm a tourist , I 'm distracted , I have too much money , please rob me .
If I have a paper map , it 's generally assumed I do n't have a lot of money to waste ( and your CC , Passport and the majority of your cash should be secured at your hotel , any remotely seasoned traveller knows this ) .
I was in Bangkok in October 2007 there was a yank on the Skytrain who was in love with his iphone , he kept showing it to Thai 's that would be lucky to make 500 Baht a day ( US $ 15 at the time ) but he insisted on shoving a 45,000 Baht phone in the faces of some disinterested Thai girl ( street value of an Iphone in Thailand in 2007 , A $ 1,500 ) .
When he got up to leave at his stop he bumped into a Thai bloke , after the usual " very sorry " the American left and the Thai bloke was admiring his new Iphone , the Yank had n't noticed by the time the train had left the station .
I wonder how long it took him to notice .
The amount of people I see walking around Perth looking into their iphones oblivious to the outside world , they would be an extremely easy theft target in a 3rd world nation .
Plus it 's always funny when they walk into poles , traffic , walls or other people because they werent watching where they were going .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>maps of the metro system,.... I downloaded apps which included an offline map of the city (so no data use)

Google Maps by default.
Here in Perth it links in with the transperth data (public transport), displays all stops and which services stop there, can plot routes from point to point via car, public transport or walking.
In addition to this I get ATM locations, petrol stations, points of interest, restaurants and a variety of other layers that can be turned on and off.
The best part is if I select a restaurant it will bring up pertinent info on that restaurant such as its phone number and opening hours.When back at the hotel I used Skype over wifi to call home cheap.
already a variety of SIP/Skype applications that use 3G or WiFi.Sure beat having a big clunky book + large foldout map that screamed "tourist please rob me".
Instead you walked around all day staring at your iphone, which said, I'm a tourist, I'm distracted, I have too much money, please rob me.
If I have a paper map, it's generally assumed I don't have a lot of money to waste (and your CC, Passport and the majority of your cash should be secured at your hotel, any remotely seasoned traveller knows this).
I was in Bangkok in October 2007 there was a yank on the Skytrain who was in love with his iphone, he kept showing it to Thai's that would be lucky to make 500 Baht a day (US$15 at the time) but he insisted on shoving a 45,000 Baht phone in the faces of some disinterested Thai girl (street value of an Iphone in Thailand in 2007, A$1,500).
When he got up to leave at his stop he bumped into a Thai bloke, after the usual "very sorry" the American left and the Thai bloke was admiring his new Iphone, the Yank hadn't noticed by the time the train had left the station.
I wonder how long it took him to notice.
The amount of people I see walking around Perth looking into their iphones oblivious to the outside world, they would be an extremely easy theft target in a 3rd world nation.
Plus it's always funny when they walk into poles, traffic, walls or other people because they werent watching where they were going.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649726</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649174</id>
	<title>Competition works</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262612700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Imagine that! Competition works!  If regulators would only get that through their heads...with enough time, consumers will win in the end as a result of competition.</p><p>Maybe Apple will finally get it through their heads and open up the iPhone for real development; doubt it though...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine that !
Competition works !
If regulators would only get that through their heads...with enough time , consumers will win in the end as a result of competition.Maybe Apple will finally get it through their heads and open up the iPhone for real development ; doubt it though.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine that!
Competition works!
If regulators would only get that through their heads...with enough time, consumers will win in the end as a result of competition.Maybe Apple will finally get it through their heads and open up the iPhone for real development; doubt it though...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30652710</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262686140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Free offline maps for the iPhone are basically a crap shoot, since it relies on availability of free mapping data out there. For instance, when I was looking for a map of Amsterdam a few months ago, the only freeware one was very course and covered just a small part of the city.
<br> <br>
In this department they have nothing on Nokia, who offer free offline maps for all their Symbian (and many S40) phones, which works in conjunction with GPS if you have one in your phone. It's very complete and detailed (because they bought NAVTEQ a few years back). And it's all centralized under Ovi Maps, so it's much easier to find than individual map apps for each city (the same kind of advantage that's often touted for a centralized app store).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Free offline maps for the iPhone are basically a crap shoot , since it relies on availability of free mapping data out there .
For instance , when I was looking for a map of Amsterdam a few months ago , the only freeware one was very course and covered just a small part of the city .
In this department they have nothing on Nokia , who offer free offline maps for all their Symbian ( and many S40 ) phones , which works in conjunction with GPS if you have one in your phone .
It 's very complete and detailed ( because they bought NAVTEQ a few years back ) .
And it 's all centralized under Ovi Maps , so it 's much easier to find than individual map apps for each city ( the same kind of advantage that 's often touted for a centralized app store ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Free offline maps for the iPhone are basically a crap shoot, since it relies on availability of free mapping data out there.
For instance, when I was looking for a map of Amsterdam a few months ago, the only freeware one was very course and covered just a small part of the city.
In this department they have nothing on Nokia, who offer free offline maps for all their Symbian (and many S40) phones, which works in conjunction with GPS if you have one in your phone.
It's very complete and detailed (because they bought NAVTEQ a few years back).
And it's all centralized under Ovi Maps, so it's much easier to find than individual map apps for each city (the same kind of advantage that's often touted for a centralized app store).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649726</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30654618</id>
	<title>Re:Alternative headline</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1262706180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got a decent Nokia smartphone. You don't have to restrict yourself to those covered by Slashdot. Look in a shop sometime.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got a decent Nokia smartphone .
You do n't have to restrict yourself to those covered by Slashdot .
Look in a shop sometime .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got a decent Nokia smartphone.
You don't have to restrict yourself to those covered by Slashdot.
Look in a shop sometime.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649128</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650370</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262619780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're not phones, they're computers.  My Droid's battery life is like 10x what my Dell's is, and I couldn't be happier with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're not phones , they 're computers .
My Droid 's battery life is like 10x what my Dell 's is , and I could n't be happier with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're not phones, they're computers.
My Droid's battery life is like 10x what my Dell's is, and I couldn't be happier with it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649182</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30653286</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>MemoryDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1262693460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pretty much everything you mentioned is available on Android<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p><p>Skype not directly in the same inkarnation (the android version of skype is a joke) but there are other apps which allow you to use skype via data connections<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty much everything you mentioned is available on Android ; - ) Skype not directly in the same inkarnation ( the android version of skype is a joke ) but there are other apps which allow you to use skype via data connections : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty much everything you mentioned is available on Android ;-)Skype not directly in the same inkarnation (the android version of skype is a joke) but there are other apps which allow you to use skype via data connections :-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649726</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649908</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262616900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because it makes you feel happy.  So much of what a human is revolves around feeling, that if you ignore it, you are going to miss a lot.<br> <br>
A perfect example of how feeling trumps logic is your assertion that charging daily takes a lot of time and attention.  In fact it only takes 30 seconds of attention in the evening to plug your phone in, it is not something that should logically seem like a problem, and yet somehow it has created this loathing inside of you.  That doesn't make any sense at all, and yet it is real (note: this doesn't apply if you actually use your phone so much that you have to charge it three times a day, but that isn't a problem for typical users, the type you were referring to).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because it makes you feel happy .
So much of what a human is revolves around feeling , that if you ignore it , you are going to miss a lot .
A perfect example of how feeling trumps logic is your assertion that charging daily takes a lot of time and attention .
In fact it only takes 30 seconds of attention in the evening to plug your phone in , it is not something that should logically seem like a problem , and yet somehow it has created this loathing inside of you .
That does n't make any sense at all , and yet it is real ( note : this does n't apply if you actually use your phone so much that you have to charge it three times a day , but that is n't a problem for typical users , the type you were referring to ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because it makes you feel happy.
So much of what a human is revolves around feeling, that if you ignore it, you are going to miss a lot.
A perfect example of how feeling trumps logic is your assertion that charging daily takes a lot of time and attention.
In fact it only takes 30 seconds of attention in the evening to plug your phone in, it is not something that should logically seem like a problem, and yet somehow it has created this loathing inside of you.
That doesn't make any sense at all, and yet it is real (note: this doesn't apply if you actually use your phone so much that you have to charge it three times a day, but that isn't a problem for typical users, the type you were referring to).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650482</id>
	<title>Re:Alternative headline</title>
	<author>salesgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1262620440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can console yourself that there are more flatulence apps of better quality for iPhone than Android.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can console yourself that there are more flatulence apps of better quality for iPhone than Android .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can console yourself that there are more flatulence apps of better quality for iPhone than Android.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650272</id>
	<title>Lies, damn lies, and...</title>
	<author>sootman</author>
	<datestamp>1262619300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, so demand for a phone that has sold tens of millions of units in the 2.5 years it's been out is leveling off, and demand for a newer phone that has sold far fewer units is growing? Stop the presses!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , so demand for a phone that has sold tens of millions of units in the 2.5 years it 's been out is leveling off , and demand for a newer phone that has sold far fewer units is growing ?
Stop the presses !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, so demand for a phone that has sold tens of millions of units in the 2.5 years it's been out is leveling off, and demand for a newer phone that has sold far fewer units is growing?
Stop the presses!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650212</id>
	<title>I get the feeling Google sold their soul..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262618760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>To Motorola, to get Android this type of attention. They advertised the Droid on their homepage, and I think that must have just about been the first time that any product had been advertised on their home page. Not only that, it seems like the next version of Android (2.0) has some sort of exclusivity to Motorola for now (at the moment AFAIK Droid is the only device that *officially has Android 2.x).</htmltext>
<tokenext>To Motorola , to get Android this type of attention .
They advertised the Droid on their homepage , and I think that must have just about been the first time that any product had been advertised on their home page .
Not only that , it seems like the next version of Android ( 2.0 ) has some sort of exclusivity to Motorola for now ( at the moment AFAIK Droid is the only device that * officially has Android 2.x ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To Motorola, to get Android this type of attention.
They advertised the Droid on their homepage, and I think that must have just about been the first time that any product had been advertised on their home page.
Not only that, it seems like the next version of Android (2.0) has some sort of exclusivity to Motorola for now (at the moment AFAIK Droid is the only device that *officially has Android 2.x).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650404</id>
	<title>Re:Googles-to-Apples Comparison</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262619900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is one thing Apple has that the Android phones don't, and it isn't that obvious.  It is the fact that there is a iPhone/iPod peripheral standard.  A lot of cars have an iPod slot where you just drop your Apple device and it plays.</p><p>Other devices don't have this, and just having the ability to drop a phone in your car's dash to jam out to whatever you listen to makes an iPhone a nicer deal than Android phones which don't seem to have BlueTooth support.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is one thing Apple has that the Android phones do n't , and it is n't that obvious .
It is the fact that there is a iPhone/iPod peripheral standard .
A lot of cars have an iPod slot where you just drop your Apple device and it plays.Other devices do n't have this , and just having the ability to drop a phone in your car 's dash to jam out to whatever you listen to makes an iPhone a nicer deal than Android phones which do n't seem to have BlueTooth support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is one thing Apple has that the Android phones don't, and it isn't that obvious.
It is the fact that there is a iPhone/iPod peripheral standard.
A lot of cars have an iPod slot where you just drop your Apple device and it plays.Other devices don't have this, and just having the ability to drop a phone in your car's dash to jam out to whatever you listen to makes an iPhone a nicer deal than Android phones which don't seem to have BlueTooth support.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650114</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262618160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You never used an Android phone, huh?  Google Voice does all that for me.</p><p>And it transcribes them to boot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You never used an Android phone , huh ?
Google Voice does all that for me.And it transcribes them to boot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You never used an Android phone, huh?
Google Voice does all that for me.And it transcribes them to boot.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30652602</id>
	<title>Way to go Motorola!</title>
	<author>HonestButCurious</author>
	<datestamp>1262685000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's heartwarming that Moto finally has a sales growth.  My first phone was a StarTAC, and it was really sad to see the brand fading away over the past years.  I know quite a few good Moto engineers (they're all there, if you dig under the layers of Dilbert-grade mismanagement), and they were really waiting for good news for quite a few years now.</p><p>I hope Google keeps control over the user interface, though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's heartwarming that Moto finally has a sales growth .
My first phone was a StarTAC , and it was really sad to see the brand fading away over the past years .
I know quite a few good Moto engineers ( they 're all there , if you dig under the layers of Dilbert-grade mismanagement ) , and they were really waiting for good news for quite a few years now.I hope Google keeps control over the user interface , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's heartwarming that Moto finally has a sales growth.
My first phone was a StarTAC, and it was really sad to see the brand fading away over the past years.
I know quite a few good Moto engineers (they're all there, if you dig under the layers of Dilbert-grade mismanagement), and they were really waiting for good news for quite a few years now.I hope Google keeps control over the user interface, though.</sentencetext>
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	<title>On a related note.....</title>
	<author>Karlt1</author>
	<datestamp>1262627580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In 2006, according to analysts 58\% of iPod users were thinking about buying a Zune.</p><p><a href="http://www.abiresearch.com/products/research\_brief/Consumer\_Electronics\_Market\_Update/101" title="abiresearch.com">http://www.abiresearch.com/products/research\_brief/Consumer\_Electronics\_Market\_Update/101</a> [abiresearch.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In 2006 , according to analysts 58 \ % of iPod users were thinking about buying a Zune.http : //www.abiresearch.com/products/research \ _brief/Consumer \ _Electronics \ _Market \ _Update/101 [ abiresearch.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In 2006, according to analysts 58\% of iPod users were thinking about buying a Zune.http://www.abiresearch.com/products/research\_brief/Consumer\_Electronics\_Market\_Update/101 [abiresearch.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30652048</id>
	<title>ITs not the advertising</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262721720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The reason its skyrocketing is not because of advertising particularly alone.  Its because the phones are finally starting to get all the features people want into one device... a device that is open and a device that comes from one of the most well known names in the world.  How to put this...  GPS is big right?  Well people do not want to pay $100 for GPS and also get a phone on top of that.  They want all these features together in 1 portable device.  That's the point.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason its skyrocketing is not because of advertising particularly alone .
Its because the phones are finally starting to get all the features people want into one device... a device that is open and a device that comes from one of the most well known names in the world .
How to put this... GPS is big right ?
Well people do not want to pay $ 100 for GPS and also get a phone on top of that .
They want all these features together in 1 portable device .
That 's the point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason its skyrocketing is not because of advertising particularly alone.
Its because the phones are finally starting to get all the features people want into one device... a device that is open and a device that comes from one of the most well known names in the world.
How to put this...  GPS is big right?
Well people do not want to pay $100 for GPS and also get a phone on top of that.
They want all these features together in 1 portable device.
That's the point.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650676</id>
	<title>Re:I just bought a Droid</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262622180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How do you like the unusable physical keyboard and the barely better onscreen one?  How about all the lag when doing difficult things like scrolling the home screen?  At least you won't have to worry about multi-touch since there isn't any.  Or buying apps since you can only put 256MB of apps on a Droid.  Don't forget some tape to hold your battery door on.  Plus despite you drag and drop wowness the Droid is awful as a media player.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How do you like the unusable physical keyboard and the barely better onscreen one ?
How about all the lag when doing difficult things like scrolling the home screen ?
At least you wo n't have to worry about multi-touch since there is n't any .
Or buying apps since you can only put 256MB of apps on a Droid .
Do n't forget some tape to hold your battery door on .
Plus despite you drag and drop wowness the Droid is awful as a media player .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do you like the unusable physical keyboard and the barely better onscreen one?
How about all the lag when doing difficult things like scrolling the home screen?
At least you won't have to worry about multi-touch since there isn't any.
Or buying apps since you can only put 256MB of apps on a Droid.
Don't forget some tape to hold your battery door on.
Plus despite you drag and drop wowness the Droid is awful as a media player.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650320</id>
	<title>iPhone = AT&amp;T, Android = Everything else</title>
	<author>introspekt.i</author>
	<datestamp>1262619540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Couldn't this be all of us poor saps who aren't on AT&amp;T (in the US, of course) finally getting a shot at picking up a nice smartphone that's not a Blackberry?  Think about all the people who want iPhone like functionality, but don't want to switch to AT&amp;T.  There's plenty of them, and this is probably them finally having their day.  No other smartphone, has come close to the iPhone in terms of hype-crazed-madness for the phone like the revised android platform.  That's not to say there aren't other good smartphone platforms out there (Palm, RIM, whatever the hell else people use these days), I think these are just skewed numbers from non AT&amp;T customers finally pouncing on a cool set of phones.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could n't this be all of us poor saps who are n't on AT&amp;T ( in the US , of course ) finally getting a shot at picking up a nice smartphone that 's not a Blackberry ?
Think about all the people who want iPhone like functionality , but do n't want to switch to AT&amp;T .
There 's plenty of them , and this is probably them finally having their day .
No other smartphone , has come close to the iPhone in terms of hype-crazed-madness for the phone like the revised android platform .
That 's not to say there are n't other good smartphone platforms out there ( Palm , RIM , whatever the hell else people use these days ) , I think these are just skewed numbers from non AT&amp;T customers finally pouncing on a cool set of phones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Couldn't this be all of us poor saps who aren't on AT&amp;T (in the US, of course) finally getting a shot at picking up a nice smartphone that's not a Blackberry?
Think about all the people who want iPhone like functionality, but don't want to switch to AT&amp;T.
There's plenty of them, and this is probably them finally having their day.
No other smartphone, has come close to the iPhone in terms of hype-crazed-madness for the phone like the revised android platform.
That's not to say there aren't other good smartphone platforms out there (Palm, RIM, whatever the hell else people use these days), I think these are just skewed numbers from non AT&amp;T customers finally pouncing on a cool set of phones.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Except when markets fail</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1262614560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Imagine that! Competition works!</p></div><p>I hear that's why the US has such fast internet and cheap, reliable telephony service, both with excellent customer service of course, especially compared to the EU and Japan.</p><p>&lt;/sarcasm&gt;</p><p>Sorry if I'm pushing it here.  It's just striking to hear about the abuse US ISP and telecomms customers (apparently) have to put up with, compared to what I experience in Denmark.</p><p>On the other hand, your government isn't doing much better than failing markets.  For instance, take a listen to a recent EconTalk episode about market failures and government failures at <a href="http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2009/12/winston\_on\_mark.html" title="econtalk.org">http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2009/12/winston\_on\_mark.html</a> [econtalk.org]</p><p>In summary: it's the lobbyists.</p><p>If I recall correctly, the guest, Winston, only looked at government failure in the US.  Extrapolating from there to government failure in general might be a wee bit hasty.</p><p>The <em>really</em> provocative statement would be that right-wingers don't get that government intervention is the right solution in theory, what left-wingers don't get is that it rarely works in practice, and the elephant in the room <em>nobody</em> is doing anything about is that the lobbyists screw up The Right Thing, making it Not The Right Thing, and so nothing works (as well as it could).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine that !
Competition works ! I hear that 's why the US has such fast internet and cheap , reliable telephony service , both with excellent customer service of course , especially compared to the EU and Japan.Sorry if I 'm pushing it here .
It 's just striking to hear about the abuse US ISP and telecomms customers ( apparently ) have to put up with , compared to what I experience in Denmark.On the other hand , your government is n't doing much better than failing markets .
For instance , take a listen to a recent EconTalk episode about market failures and government failures at http : //www.econtalk.org/archives/2009/12/winston \ _on \ _mark.html [ econtalk.org ] In summary : it 's the lobbyists.If I recall correctly , the guest , Winston , only looked at government failure in the US .
Extrapolating from there to government failure in general might be a wee bit hasty.The really provocative statement would be that right-wingers do n't get that government intervention is the right solution in theory , what left-wingers do n't get is that it rarely works in practice , and the elephant in the room nobody is doing anything about is that the lobbyists screw up The Right Thing , making it Not The Right Thing , and so nothing works ( as well as it could ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine that!
Competition works!I hear that's why the US has such fast internet and cheap, reliable telephony service, both with excellent customer service of course, especially compared to the EU and Japan.Sorry if I'm pushing it here.
It's just striking to hear about the abuse US ISP and telecomms customers (apparently) have to put up with, compared to what I experience in Denmark.On the other hand, your government isn't doing much better than failing markets.
For instance, take a listen to a recent EconTalk episode about market failures and government failures at http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2009/12/winston\_on\_mark.html [econtalk.org]In summary: it's the lobbyists.If I recall correctly, the guest, Winston, only looked at government failure in the US.
Extrapolating from there to government failure in general might be a wee bit hasty.The really provocative statement would be that right-wingers don't get that government intervention is the right solution in theory, what left-wingers don't get is that it rarely works in practice, and the elephant in the room nobody is doing anything about is that the lobbyists screw up The Right Thing, making it Not The Right Thing, and so nothing works (as well as it could).
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	<title>Bring it on, please</title>
	<author>lpaul55</author>
	<datestamp>1262612280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I cannot wait to see, try, and then buy the Google Phone.  I hope that the rumors are true.</p><p>What I would like even more would be the Google counterpart to the iPod Touch: the Android palmtop computer without the phone (but with the camera, please).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can not wait to see , try , and then buy the Google Phone .
I hope that the rumors are true.What I would like even more would be the Google counterpart to the iPod Touch : the Android palmtop computer without the phone ( but with the camera , please ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I cannot wait to see, try, and then buy the Google Phone.
I hope that the rumors are true.What I would like even more would be the Google counterpart to the iPod Touch: the Android palmtop computer without the phone (but with the camera, please).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30648978</id>
	<title>Imagine that!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262611740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Two weeks or so before Google releases its Android based phone, forever changing the business that Google is in (hardware/handset + OS, not just search), and the short sighted ADD public are more interested in these new happenings than the status quo of the iPhone? I'm stunned. STUNNED I tell you...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Two weeks or so before Google releases its Android based phone , forever changing the business that Google is in ( hardware/handset + OS , not just search ) , and the short sighted ADD public are more interested in these new happenings than the status quo of the iPhone ?
I 'm stunned .
STUNNED I tell you.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two weeks or so before Google releases its Android based phone, forever changing the business that Google is in (hardware/handset + OS, not just search), and the short sighted ADD public are more interested in these new happenings than the status quo of the iPhone?
I'm stunned.
STUNNED I tell you...</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I just bought a Droid</title>
	<author>plazman30</author>
	<datestamp>1262716740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. I use the physical keyboard and love it.  I have an iPod touch and I'll take the Droid physical keyboard over the iTouch virtual.  The Droid virtual is pretty good too.  It fixes most common typing errors, which the iTouch does not do.</p><p>2. There is no lag whatsoever when scrolling the home screen.</p><p>3. I don't miss multi-touch.  The only thing I used it in was the browser.  I installed the Dolphin Browser and now have a multi-touch browser.  And the European version of the Droid has multitouch, just not here in the US, probably due to Apple patents.</p><p>4. The average app isn't even a 1 MB in size.  I don't see myself putting 256 apps on my phone, EVER.  Even on the iTouch, I only have 3 1/2 screens of apps.</p><p>5. My battery door is fine.  At least, in a years time, I can actually change my battery myself.  Or go out today and buy a higher capacity battery and slap it in there.</p><p>6. The media player on the Droid is not as nice as the iTouch/iPhone.  But unlike the App Store, if someone writes a better music player, it will actually become available to me via the Android store.</p><p>Plus things I can do that you can't:</p><p>1. Run email, a twitter client, and an IM client all in the background.</p><p>2. Listen to Pandora and do other things at the same time.</p><p>3. Have a camera with a flash</p><p>4. Have a higher resolution screen (848x480)</p><p>5. Charge and sync with a standard MicroUSB cable.</p><p>6. Download large podcasts over 3G.</p><p>7. Get turn by turn directions FOR FREE.</p><p>8. On a network that doesn't drop calls all the time (I have a work Blackberry on AT&amp;T and I get dropped calls all the time)</p><p>9. Change my battery</p><p>And I would have to say GET OVER YOUR DAMN SELF.  I'm an Apple fanboy too.  But damn, don't go bashing the Droid until you actually use one.  You can't bash a device you haven't even seen, which is obvious from your comments.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
I use the physical keyboard and love it .
I have an iPod touch and I 'll take the Droid physical keyboard over the iTouch virtual .
The Droid virtual is pretty good too .
It fixes most common typing errors , which the iTouch does not do.2 .
There is no lag whatsoever when scrolling the home screen.3 .
I do n't miss multi-touch .
The only thing I used it in was the browser .
I installed the Dolphin Browser and now have a multi-touch browser .
And the European version of the Droid has multitouch , just not here in the US , probably due to Apple patents.4 .
The average app is n't even a 1 MB in size .
I do n't see myself putting 256 apps on my phone , EVER .
Even on the iTouch , I only have 3 1/2 screens of apps.5 .
My battery door is fine .
At least , in a years time , I can actually change my battery myself .
Or go out today and buy a higher capacity battery and slap it in there.6 .
The media player on the Droid is not as nice as the iTouch/iPhone .
But unlike the App Store , if someone writes a better music player , it will actually become available to me via the Android store.Plus things I can do that you ca n't : 1 .
Run email , a twitter client , and an IM client all in the background.2 .
Listen to Pandora and do other things at the same time.3 .
Have a camera with a flash4 .
Have a higher resolution screen ( 848x480 ) 5 .
Charge and sync with a standard MicroUSB cable.6 .
Download large podcasts over 3G.7 .
Get turn by turn directions FOR FREE.8 .
On a network that does n't drop calls all the time ( I have a work Blackberry on AT&amp;T and I get dropped calls all the time ) 9 .
Change my batteryAnd I would have to say GET OVER YOUR DAMN SELF .
I 'm an Apple fanboy too .
But damn , do n't go bashing the Droid until you actually use one .
You ca n't bash a device you have n't even seen , which is obvious from your comments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
I use the physical keyboard and love it.
I have an iPod touch and I'll take the Droid physical keyboard over the iTouch virtual.
The Droid virtual is pretty good too.
It fixes most common typing errors, which the iTouch does not do.2.
There is no lag whatsoever when scrolling the home screen.3.
I don't miss multi-touch.
The only thing I used it in was the browser.
I installed the Dolphin Browser and now have a multi-touch browser.
And the European version of the Droid has multitouch, just not here in the US, probably due to Apple patents.4.
The average app isn't even a 1 MB in size.
I don't see myself putting 256 apps on my phone, EVER.
Even on the iTouch, I only have 3 1/2 screens of apps.5.
My battery door is fine.
At least, in a years time, I can actually change my battery myself.
Or go out today and buy a higher capacity battery and slap it in there.6.
The media player on the Droid is not as nice as the iTouch/iPhone.
But unlike the App Store, if someone writes a better music player, it will actually become available to me via the Android store.Plus things I can do that you can't:1.
Run email, a twitter client, and an IM client all in the background.2.
Listen to Pandora and do other things at the same time.3.
Have a camera with a flash4.
Have a higher resolution screen (848x480)5.
Charge and sync with a standard MicroUSB cable.6.
Download large podcasts over 3G.7.
Get turn by turn directions FOR FREE.8.
On a network that doesn't drop calls all the time (I have a work Blackberry on AT&amp;T and I get dropped calls all the time)9.
Change my batteryAnd I would have to say GET OVER YOUR DAMN SELF.
I'm an Apple fanboy too.
But damn, don't go bashing the Droid until you actually use one.
You can't bash a device you haven't even seen, which is obvious from your comments.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30651392</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262628240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The ability to see all of your voice mails without having to listen to them sequentially. You have a list, you can listen to any of them in any order. And you don't have to listen to them at all and still be able to delete them. - you can't do that with other services.</p></div><p>Actually, my G1 has visual voice mail. I can do the same. Skip them, delete them out of hand, save them. It's all there.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The ability to see all of your voice mails without having to listen to them sequentially .
You have a list , you can listen to any of them in any order .
And you do n't have to listen to them at all and still be able to delete them .
- you ca n't do that with other services.Actually , my G1 has visual voice mail .
I can do the same .
Skip them , delete them out of hand , save them .
It 's all there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The ability to see all of your voice mails without having to listen to them sequentially.
You have a list, you can listen to any of them in any order.
And you don't have to listen to them at all and still be able to delete them.
- you can't do that with other services.Actually, my G1 has visual voice mail.
I can do the same.
Skip them, delete them out of hand, save them.
It's all there.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30652178</id>
	<title>Both will die in the long run</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262723400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Both systems will probably die in the long run as they will be replaced by normal operating system. The iPhone already officially runs on MacOSX, but because of stupid marketing decisions it's not open. The Android is marketed as a Linux device, but instead is just running a proprietary flavour of Linux which is barely compatible with anything. It doesn't even use X11!</p><p>So I predict that in the future, people who actually care about what their phones can do (which is a minority) will probably run some kind of stripped down normal OS. Early devices implementing this are the Maemo ones which is essentially a stripped down Debian. It's probably already possible to share repositories with Ubuntu ARM. (need to try that)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Both systems will probably die in the long run as they will be replaced by normal operating system .
The iPhone already officially runs on MacOSX , but because of stupid marketing decisions it 's not open .
The Android is marketed as a Linux device , but instead is just running a proprietary flavour of Linux which is barely compatible with anything .
It does n't even use X11 ! So I predict that in the future , people who actually care about what their phones can do ( which is a minority ) will probably run some kind of stripped down normal OS .
Early devices implementing this are the Maemo ones which is essentially a stripped down Debian .
It 's probably already possible to share repositories with Ubuntu ARM .
( need to try that )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Both systems will probably die in the long run as they will be replaced by normal operating system.
The iPhone already officially runs on MacOSX, but because of stupid marketing decisions it's not open.
The Android is marketed as a Linux device, but instead is just running a proprietary flavour of Linux which is barely compatible with anything.
It doesn't even use X11!So I predict that in the future, people who actually care about what their phones can do (which is a minority) will probably run some kind of stripped down normal OS.
Early devices implementing this are the Maemo ones which is essentially a stripped down Debian.
It's probably already possible to share repositories with Ubuntu ARM.
(need to try that)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649508</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>drei22</author>
	<datestamp>1262614260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You wake up, unplug from power and use it all day. You take it home, plug it in at bed time and wake up to a fully charged phone. What's the problem?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You wake up , unplug from power and use it all day .
You take it home , plug it in at bed time and wake up to a fully charged phone .
What 's the problem ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You wake up, unplug from power and use it all day.
You take it home, plug it in at bed time and wake up to a fully charged phone.
What's the problem?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649808</id>
	<title>iPhone maxed out</title>
	<author>p51d007</author>
	<datestamp>1262616360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When the market for the iPhone is saturated, then of course it's market share will drop when some new do-dad comes out.
I'm not a fan of anything that apple produces, because you can't hack it the way you want.
I think the android is shaking up the market of smartphones because you can (if you know how) hack around on it to do what you want.
Same thing with the HTC/Windows phones.  Just look how popular the XDA-Developers site is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When the market for the iPhone is saturated , then of course it 's market share will drop when some new do-dad comes out .
I 'm not a fan of anything that apple produces , because you ca n't hack it the way you want .
I think the android is shaking up the market of smartphones because you can ( if you know how ) hack around on it to do what you want .
Same thing with the HTC/Windows phones .
Just look how popular the XDA-Developers site is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When the market for the iPhone is saturated, then of course it's market share will drop when some new do-dad comes out.
I'm not a fan of anything that apple produces, because you can't hack it the way you want.
I think the android is shaking up the market of smartphones because you can (if you know how) hack around on it to do what you want.
Same thing with the HTC/Windows phones.
Just look how popular the XDA-Developers site is.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649084</id>
	<title>Calm before the storm?</title>
	<author>LostCluster</author>
	<datestamp>1262612220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seems like they're attributing this to a Motorola add campaign for the Droid, while Apple hasn't been advertising the iPhone much lately. Apple has a trend of announcing new iPhone models in mid-January and right now we're in what time of year again?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like they 're attributing this to a Motorola add campaign for the Droid , while Apple has n't been advertising the iPhone much lately .
Apple has a trend of announcing new iPhone models in mid-January and right now we 're in what time of year again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like they're attributing this to a Motorola add campaign for the Droid, while Apple hasn't been advertising the iPhone much lately.
Apple has a trend of announcing new iPhone models in mid-January and right now we're in what time of year again?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650258</id>
	<title>Brrr! How are all you douchebags...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262619180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>enjoying this Global Warming?  It can't be much fun attending a Global Warming riot whilst hip-deep in snow!</p><p><a href="http://www.accuweather.com/news-weather-features.asp?partner=&amp;traveler=0&amp;date=2010-01-04\_1701&amp;month=1&amp;year=2010" title="accuweather.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.accuweather.com/news-weather-features.asp?partner=&amp;traveler=0&amp;date=2010-01-04\_1701&amp;month=1&amp;year=2010</a> [accuweather.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>enjoying this Global Warming ?
It ca n't be much fun attending a Global Warming riot whilst hip-deep in snow ! http : //www.accuweather.com/news-weather-features.asp ? partner = &amp;traveler = 0&amp;date = 2010-01-04 \ _1701&amp;month = 1&amp;year = 2010 [ accuweather.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>enjoying this Global Warming?
It can't be much fun attending a Global Warming riot whilst hip-deep in snow!http://www.accuweather.com/news-weather-features.asp?partner=&amp;traveler=0&amp;date=2010-01-04\_1701&amp;month=1&amp;year=2010 [accuweather.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649974</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262617320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Software designed and coded in India.</p> </div><p>Bull<i>shit!</i> </p><p>
How them grapes taste?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Software designed and coded in India .
Bullshit ! How them grapes taste ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Software designed and coded in India.
Bullshit! 
How them grapes taste?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30651330</id>
	<title>Important why?</title>
	<author>jht</author>
	<datestamp>1262627640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>iPhone is one series of phones (basically one phone with three current models) from one manufacturer offered on one carrier in the US.</p><p>Android is a platform that's offered by multiple manufacturers on multiple carriers.  There is no "Android phone" (even factoring in the Nexus One), there's Droid, Droid Eris, Moment, HTC Hero, G1, myTouch, Cliq, and Behold.  As of right now.  And that's on 3 of the 4 major US carriers, excepting AT&amp;T for the moment.</p><p>Needless to say, I think Android as a whole will ultimately be the major "alternative platform" for those who want a phone that's not an iPhone or Blackberry.  But as a whole, that will merely replace Windows Mobile and Symbian as alternatives, not eat the marketshare/mindshare of Apple and RIM.</p><p>Android will be the "OS you get on your phone when you don't ask for an iPhone or a Blackberry by name".  And that's probably fine and dandy, it should increase margins for the handset makers, make money for Google, and eventually result in another useful app platform for developers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>iPhone is one series of phones ( basically one phone with three current models ) from one manufacturer offered on one carrier in the US.Android is a platform that 's offered by multiple manufacturers on multiple carriers .
There is no " Android phone " ( even factoring in the Nexus One ) , there 's Droid , Droid Eris , Moment , HTC Hero , G1 , myTouch , Cliq , and Behold .
As of right now .
And that 's on 3 of the 4 major US carriers , excepting AT&amp;T for the moment.Needless to say , I think Android as a whole will ultimately be the major " alternative platform " for those who want a phone that 's not an iPhone or Blackberry .
But as a whole , that will merely replace Windows Mobile and Symbian as alternatives , not eat the marketshare/mindshare of Apple and RIM.Android will be the " OS you get on your phone when you do n't ask for an iPhone or a Blackberry by name " .
And that 's probably fine and dandy , it should increase margins for the handset makers , make money for Google , and eventually result in another useful app platform for developers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iPhone is one series of phones (basically one phone with three current models) from one manufacturer offered on one carrier in the US.Android is a platform that's offered by multiple manufacturers on multiple carriers.
There is no "Android phone" (even factoring in the Nexus One), there's Droid, Droid Eris, Moment, HTC Hero, G1, myTouch, Cliq, and Behold.
As of right now.
And that's on 3 of the 4 major US carriers, excepting AT&amp;T for the moment.Needless to say, I think Android as a whole will ultimately be the major "alternative platform" for those who want a phone that's not an iPhone or Blackberry.
But as a whole, that will merely replace Windows Mobile and Symbian as alternatives, not eat the marketshare/mindshare of Apple and RIM.Android will be the "OS you get on your phone when you don't ask for an iPhone or a Blackberry by name".
And that's probably fine and dandy, it should increase margins for the handset makers, make money for Google, and eventually result in another useful app platform for developers.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30660260</id>
	<title>Re:Except when markets fail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262684760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>EU?  Perhaps better apart from the UK - British Telecom, Orange, O2, 3, Virgin Media etc etc.  All useless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>EU ?
Perhaps better apart from the UK - British Telecom , Orange , O2 , 3 , Virgin Media etc etc .
All useless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>EU?
Perhaps better apart from the UK - British Telecom, Orange, O2, 3, Virgin Media etc etc.
All useless.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30648860</id>
	<title>Googles-to-Apples Comparison</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262611260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Isn't the "fastest growing" anything usually in last place?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't the " fastest growing " anything usually in last place ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't the "fastest growing" anything usually in last place?</sentencetext>
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	<title>I see some redundancy here.</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1262700720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really, iPod Touch isn't that far from doing most of the things Droid can...except phone calls. If only it would have a camera (probably coming in the next revision) and could use, through Bluetooth, "dumbphone" as a net access and GPS (I'm not holding my breath here)</p><p>That's pretty much my ideal usage scenario. Since I don't like the thought of my phone being a multimedia powerhouse that saps its battery quickly, I would prefer to have second solid, simple mobile phone as a backup...in which case telephony part of one device also becomes redundant. So why not settle with iPod Touch-like device and tethering it to something like Nokia 2710 (over 2 weeks standby and GPS, for 100 Euro without contract)</p><p>Preferably with a setting on the dumbphone "don't allow data access and GPS when battery is at x\%"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really , iPod Touch is n't that far from doing most of the things Droid can...except phone calls .
If only it would have a camera ( probably coming in the next revision ) and could use , through Bluetooth , " dumbphone " as a net access and GPS ( I 'm not holding my breath here ) That 's pretty much my ideal usage scenario .
Since I do n't like the thought of my phone being a multimedia powerhouse that saps its battery quickly , I would prefer to have second solid , simple mobile phone as a backup...in which case telephony part of one device also becomes redundant .
So why not settle with iPod Touch-like device and tethering it to something like Nokia 2710 ( over 2 weeks standby and GPS , for 100 Euro without contract ) Preferably with a setting on the dumbphone " do n't allow data access and GPS when battery is at x \ % "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really, iPod Touch isn't that far from doing most of the things Droid can...except phone calls.
If only it would have a camera (probably coming in the next revision) and could use, through Bluetooth, "dumbphone" as a net access and GPS (I'm not holding my breath here)That's pretty much my ideal usage scenario.
Since I don't like the thought of my phone being a multimedia powerhouse that saps its battery quickly, I would prefer to have second solid, simple mobile phone as a backup...in which case telephony part of one device also becomes redundant.
So why not settle with iPod Touch-like device and tethering it to something like Nokia 2710 (over 2 weeks standby and GPS, for 100 Euro without contract)Preferably with a setting on the dumbphone "don't allow data access and GPS when battery is at x\%"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650052</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>deathguppie</author>
	<datestamp>1262617740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My turn, to complain.... <br>
I hate the fact that there is no stop button in the browser... you accidentally click a link and your going there, whether you like it or not.  I spend more time going back to the front page of Slashdot than reading it on the Iphone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My turn , to complain... . I hate the fact that there is no stop button in the browser... you accidentally click a link and your going there , whether you like it or not .
I spend more time going back to the front page of Slashdot than reading it on the Iphone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My turn, to complain.... 
I hate the fact that there is no stop button in the browser... you accidentally click a link and your going there, whether you like it or not.
I spend more time going back to the front page of Slashdot than reading it on the Iphone.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650112</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>anethema</author>
	<datestamp>1262618100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>As one other poster began elaborating on, it is basically a full computer running a BSD variant. No the input isn't as nice as a laptop etc.<br><br>I open a terminal, I have bash. Some customer calls me asking me to do something on their server I just open a terminal and type<br>ssh user@server. Something bigger? I get to a computer and throw up a 802.11G access point who's WAN is my cellular data.<br><br>I want remote desktop into my work session? done. Full desktop, very nice interface (compared to what you'd expect, not a desktop computer obviously).<br><br>I stream music and satellite radio all day. I can bring up videos on Youtube for any demos I want for people. I've got a full set of maps and full google search anywhere I go. I've got skype for free calling anywhere I am. I have a camera which I can quickly use an app to stick together a nice panoramic shot of where I am, and quickly email that file to anyone I want, anywhere.<br><br>Basically anything you do on a computer you can do on an iPhone.<br><br>The major upside to all of this? It is done with a UI that consistently reviews above anything else out there. The hardware quality is top notch, the thing is comfortable to use. There is an App out there for damn near any application.<br><br>Hell the damn thing is even a phone<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D<br><br>Android is catching up. The phones don't seem to look at nice (to me or pretty much any review you read out there) and the OS itself feels a lot..younger (which it is) and is still going through growing pains. They have recently released a native SDK finally so you dont have to run all your apps in the JVM. It is coming along and I expect great things of it, it will just take time.<br><br>The iPhone was in the same position when it came out near 3 years ago. There were only web apps for it, no sdk, the damn thing crashed all the time etc. Now it is smooth, VERY stable, and pretty refined these days.<br><br>Hopefully this huge stupid monolog helps give you a satisfying answer of why the iPhone is so good. I like to consider myself a person without brand loyalty and will generally buy what I think is best at the time of purchase. I could care less about Apple or being their customer and I would move from the iPhone to an Android phone in a heartbeat if I thought any of the phones could really surpass the iPhone software AND hardware-wise, but that just is not yet the case.<br><br>As the other poster said, plugging  in the phone in the evening really isn't a chore. I'm a heavy user and if I forget to do that, it will usually last the next day of light use as well, I just shut off 3G.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As one other poster began elaborating on , it is basically a full computer running a BSD variant .
No the input is n't as nice as a laptop etc.I open a terminal , I have bash .
Some customer calls me asking me to do something on their server I just open a terminal and typessh user @ server .
Something bigger ?
I get to a computer and throw up a 802.11G access point who 's WAN is my cellular data.I want remote desktop into my work session ?
done. Full desktop , very nice interface ( compared to what you 'd expect , not a desktop computer obviously ) .I stream music and satellite radio all day .
I can bring up videos on Youtube for any demos I want for people .
I 've got a full set of maps and full google search anywhere I go .
I 've got skype for free calling anywhere I am .
I have a camera which I can quickly use an app to stick together a nice panoramic shot of where I am , and quickly email that file to anyone I want , anywhere.Basically anything you do on a computer you can do on an iPhone.The major upside to all of this ?
It is done with a UI that consistently reviews above anything else out there .
The hardware quality is top notch , the thing is comfortable to use .
There is an App out there for damn near any application.Hell the damn thing is even a phone : DAndroid is catching up .
The phones do n't seem to look at nice ( to me or pretty much any review you read out there ) and the OS itself feels a lot..younger ( which it is ) and is still going through growing pains .
They have recently released a native SDK finally so you dont have to run all your apps in the JVM .
It is coming along and I expect great things of it , it will just take time.The iPhone was in the same position when it came out near 3 years ago .
There were only web apps for it , no sdk , the damn thing crashed all the time etc .
Now it is smooth , VERY stable , and pretty refined these days.Hopefully this huge stupid monolog helps give you a satisfying answer of why the iPhone is so good .
I like to consider myself a person without brand loyalty and will generally buy what I think is best at the time of purchase .
I could care less about Apple or being their customer and I would move from the iPhone to an Android phone in a heartbeat if I thought any of the phones could really surpass the iPhone software AND hardware-wise , but that just is not yet the case.As the other poster said , plugging in the phone in the evening really is n't a chore .
I 'm a heavy user and if I forget to do that , it will usually last the next day of light use as well , I just shut off 3G .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As one other poster began elaborating on, it is basically a full computer running a BSD variant.
No the input isn't as nice as a laptop etc.I open a terminal, I have bash.
Some customer calls me asking me to do something on their server I just open a terminal and typessh user@server.
Something bigger?
I get to a computer and throw up a 802.11G access point who's WAN is my cellular data.I want remote desktop into my work session?
done. Full desktop, very nice interface (compared to what you'd expect, not a desktop computer obviously).I stream music and satellite radio all day.
I can bring up videos on Youtube for any demos I want for people.
I've got a full set of maps and full google search anywhere I go.
I've got skype for free calling anywhere I am.
I have a camera which I can quickly use an app to stick together a nice panoramic shot of where I am, and quickly email that file to anyone I want, anywhere.Basically anything you do on a computer you can do on an iPhone.The major upside to all of this?
It is done with a UI that consistently reviews above anything else out there.
The hardware quality is top notch, the thing is comfortable to use.
There is an App out there for damn near any application.Hell the damn thing is even a phone :DAndroid is catching up.
The phones don't seem to look at nice (to me or pretty much any review you read out there) and the OS itself feels a lot..younger (which it is) and is still going through growing pains.
They have recently released a native SDK finally so you dont have to run all your apps in the JVM.
It is coming along and I expect great things of it, it will just take time.The iPhone was in the same position when it came out near 3 years ago.
There were only web apps for it, no sdk, the damn thing crashed all the time etc.
Now it is smooth, VERY stable, and pretty refined these days.Hopefully this huge stupid monolog helps give you a satisfying answer of why the iPhone is so good.
I like to consider myself a person without brand loyalty and will generally buy what I think is best at the time of purchase.
I could care less about Apple or being their customer and I would move from the iPhone to an Android phone in a heartbeat if I thought any of the phones could really surpass the iPhone software AND hardware-wise, but that just is not yet the case.As the other poster said, plugging  in the phone in the evening really isn't a chore.
I'm a heavy user and if I forget to do that, it will usually last the next day of light use as well, I just shut off 3G.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30655066</id>
	<title>Re:Die Microsoft die.  Long live Android.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262708160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do I detect a bit of fanboy ire aimed at WM?</p><p>All my smartphones have been RIM or WM, and you know what? They work for me. I have used a lot of MS Office utilities that these phones can handle. It is an office away from home, and can do the 'consumer' angle as well (streaming or stored media such as movies or music; SMS/MMS capability; goofy games, maps, etc.).</p><p>Currently I have a Samsung Omnia i910 through Verizon. $100 for a smartphone that had 8GB of storage and a 5MP camera as well. I see the iPhone falling out of favor with certain people, but Luddites (which every Mac owner called themselves up to the point of purchase) will continue to buy them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do I detect a bit of fanboy ire aimed at WM ? All my smartphones have been RIM or WM , and you know what ?
They work for me .
I have used a lot of MS Office utilities that these phones can handle .
It is an office away from home , and can do the 'consumer ' angle as well ( streaming or stored media such as movies or music ; SMS/MMS capability ; goofy games , maps , etc .
) .Currently I have a Samsung Omnia i910 through Verizon .
$ 100 for a smartphone that had 8GB of storage and a 5MP camera as well .
I see the iPhone falling out of favor with certain people , but Luddites ( which every Mac owner called themselves up to the point of purchase ) will continue to buy them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do I detect a bit of fanboy ire aimed at WM?All my smartphones have been RIM or WM, and you know what?
They work for me.
I have used a lot of MS Office utilities that these phones can handle.
It is an office away from home, and can do the 'consumer' angle as well (streaming or stored media such as movies or music; SMS/MMS capability; goofy games, maps, etc.
).Currently I have a Samsung Omnia i910 through Verizon.
$100 for a smartphone that had 8GB of storage and a 5MP camera as well.
I see the iPhone falling out of favor with certain people, but Luddites (which every Mac owner called themselves up to the point of purchase) will continue to buy them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30654380</id>
	<title>Re:I plan on writing a post after I write the subj</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1262704860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, if we get daily stories about Apple vaporware based on rumour from unreliable sources about possible new products, I think we can have an occasional story about predictions for Google products too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , if we get daily stories about Apple vaporware based on rumour from unreliable sources about possible new products , I think we can have an occasional story about predictions for Google products too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, if we get daily stories about Apple vaporware based on rumour from unreliable sources about possible new products, I think we can have an occasional story about predictions for Google products too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649754</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262615820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone. I have never got a satisfying answer.</i></p><p><i>One of the "features" I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called "light users" have to charge it daily. Insane...where is the time for such attention?</i></p><p><i><i>Might have as much to do with poor power control implementation on the UTMS/WCDMA and not really an iPhone issue directly. So maybe the daily charging is carrier specific.</i></i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone .
I have never got a satisfying answer.One of the " features " I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called " light users " have to charge it daily .
Insane...where is the time for such attention ? Might have as much to do with poor power control implementation on the UTMS/WCDMA and not really an iPhone issue directly .
So maybe the daily charging is carrier specific .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone.
I have never got a satisfying answer.One of the "features" I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called "light users" have to charge it daily.
Insane...where is the time for such attention?Might have as much to do with poor power control implementation on the UTMS/WCDMA and not really an iPhone issue directly.
So maybe the daily charging is carrier specific.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30653620</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262698320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can see my voice mail messages and listen to them in any order as well. I can even read a text message of the voice mail. All with no extra cost.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can see my voice mail messages and listen to them in any order as well .
I can even read a text message of the voice mail .
All with no extra cost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can see my voice mail messages and listen to them in any order as well.
I can even read a text message of the voice mail.
All with no extra cost.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649218</id>
	<title>Re:Calm before the storm?</title>
	<author>swb</author>
	<datestamp>1262612940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't you mean mid-June?  I was in the market for a new phone last spring and it was all vapor and smoke about what, if any, "new" iPhone was coming out on the market.</p><p>I ended up gaming the system a little -- my wife went freelance and needed a new phone, so I bought an iPhone for myself and just got her a number with no contract and threw the sim card in an old RAZR.</p><p>When the 3GS came out, I got that with her contract/discount and gave her the 3G iPhone I'd had for about two months.</p><p>I'm sure I'll be annoyed with envy at the new shiny in June, but what the heck.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't you mean mid-June ?
I was in the market for a new phone last spring and it was all vapor and smoke about what , if any , " new " iPhone was coming out on the market.I ended up gaming the system a little -- my wife went freelance and needed a new phone , so I bought an iPhone for myself and just got her a number with no contract and threw the sim card in an old RAZR.When the 3GS came out , I got that with her contract/discount and gave her the 3G iPhone I 'd had for about two months.I 'm sure I 'll be annoyed with envy at the new shiny in June , but what the heck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't you mean mid-June?
I was in the market for a new phone last spring and it was all vapor and smoke about what, if any, "new" iPhone was coming out on the market.I ended up gaming the system a little -- my wife went freelance and needed a new phone, so I bought an iPhone for myself and just got her a number with no contract and threw the sim card in an old RAZR.When the 3GS came out, I got that with her contract/discount and gave her the 3G iPhone I'd had for about two months.I'm sure I'll be annoyed with envy at the new shiny in June, but what the heck.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649112</id>
	<title>Release Cycle</title>
	<author>joey\_knisch</author>
	<datestamp>1262612340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Isn't apple basically mid release cycle on the current gen iPhone?  I know, if I was considering getting an iPhone, I would probably just wait until the next version came out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't apple basically mid release cycle on the current gen iPhone ?
I know , if I was considering getting an iPhone , I would probably just wait until the next version came out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't apple basically mid release cycle on the current gen iPhone?
I know, if I was considering getting an iPhone, I would probably just wait until the next version came out.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649404</id>
	<title>Re:Calm before the storm?</title>
	<author>shawnce</author>
	<datestamp>1262613780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The original iPhone was announced in January 2007 but didn't get released until June 2007. The iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS got announced/released in June/July time frame in 2008 and 2009 respectively.</p><p>So the trend is to refresh the iPhone every year mid-year.</p><p>I doubt any iPhone hardware update with be announced in January given this trend.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The original iPhone was announced in January 2007 but did n't get released until June 2007 .
The iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS got announced/released in June/July time frame in 2008 and 2009 respectively.So the trend is to refresh the iPhone every year mid-year.I doubt any iPhone hardware update with be announced in January given this trend .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The original iPhone was announced in January 2007 but didn't get released until June 2007.
The iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS got announced/released in June/July time frame in 2008 and 2009 respectively.So the trend is to refresh the iPhone every year mid-year.I doubt any iPhone hardware update with be announced in January given this trend.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650878</id>
	<title>Just make sure the carrier supports the phone</title>
	<author>Retardical\_Sam</author>
	<datestamp>1262623620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just hope the people buying these phones do the research.  In Canada, Rogers (one of the big three cell providers here) has said that they're not going to provide an upgrade for the HTC Magic (literally the same phone as the myTouch3G) to Android 1.6 - they think 1.5 provides a "good user experience" and so they're not going to bother.  Just how do you think all these people buying new phones are going to feel when they get it home and discover a bunch of the bells and whistles they've been promised don't work?  And there are already apps out there that require 1.6.  That's one big difference between Android phones and the iPhone - Rogers is supporting the iPhone.</p><p>Source: <a href="http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/12/19/rogers-htc-dream-and-magic-to-be-deprived-of-donut/" title="boygeniusreport.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/12/19/rogers-htc-dream-and-magic-to-be-deprived-of-donut/</a> [boygeniusreport.com] (as well as the HTC website)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just hope the people buying these phones do the research .
In Canada , Rogers ( one of the big three cell providers here ) has said that they 're not going to provide an upgrade for the HTC Magic ( literally the same phone as the myTouch3G ) to Android 1.6 - they think 1.5 provides a " good user experience " and so they 're not going to bother .
Just how do you think all these people buying new phones are going to feel when they get it home and discover a bunch of the bells and whistles they 've been promised do n't work ?
And there are already apps out there that require 1.6 .
That 's one big difference between Android phones and the iPhone - Rogers is supporting the iPhone.Source : http : //www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/12/19/rogers-htc-dream-and-magic-to-be-deprived-of-donut/ [ boygeniusreport.com ] ( as well as the HTC website )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just hope the people buying these phones do the research.
In Canada, Rogers (one of the big three cell providers here) has said that they're not going to provide an upgrade for the HTC Magic (literally the same phone as the myTouch3G) to Android 1.6 - they think 1.5 provides a "good user experience" and so they're not going to bother.
Just how do you think all these people buying new phones are going to feel when they get it home and discover a bunch of the bells and whistles they've been promised don't work?
And there are already apps out there that require 1.6.
That's one big difference between Android phones and the iPhone - Rogers is supporting the iPhone.Source: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/12/19/rogers-htc-dream-and-magic-to-be-deprived-of-donut/ [boygeniusreport.com] (as well as the HTC website)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650630</id>
	<title>Re:Of course</title>
	<author>Weezul</author>
	<datestamp>1262621760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple &amp; everyone have vastly underestimated fashion.  Apple does make sexy looking gear, but just consider how many luxury car companies exist.  Ferrari, Porche, Jaguar, Lexus, etc. all sell cars that look distinctive.</p><p>I hear like a dozen phone makers are designing Android based phones.  All are poche well equipped smartphone.  All offer almost the same vast array of applications.  All will look distinctive and sexy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple &amp; everyone have vastly underestimated fashion .
Apple does make sexy looking gear , but just consider how many luxury car companies exist .
Ferrari , Porche , Jaguar , Lexus , etc .
all sell cars that look distinctive.I hear like a dozen phone makers are designing Android based phones .
All are poche well equipped smartphone .
All offer almost the same vast array of applications .
All will look distinctive and sexy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple &amp; everyone have vastly underestimated fashion.
Apple does make sexy looking gear, but just consider how many luxury car companies exist.
Ferrari, Porche, Jaguar, Lexus, etc.
all sell cars that look distinctive.I hear like a dozen phone makers are designing Android based phones.
All are poche well equipped smartphone.
All offer almost the same vast array of applications.
All will look distinctive and sexy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650756</id>
	<title>Re:I get the feeling Google sold their soul..</title>
	<author>rwa2</author>
	<datestamp>1262622780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep, but hopefully this will soon pass this year, as other devices come out.  And hopefully Google will roll out Android 2 updates to some existing handsets (I've read the myTouch and Magic devices should have enough hardware specs to make it possible/practical, but unfortunately the first G1 will probably be left out).</p><p>My only wish is that I could get Google Maps Mobile on more devices or on real computers.  It was the one app I really miss from the Blackberry I used to have for work.  I've tried getting it on the Android SDK emulator and on Androidx86, but it's not in the feeble stripped-down app repository on those platforms.  Maybe they'll do one for ChromeOS?  Doubtful.</p><p>I still have my sights set on a Nokia N900 to replace my Palm TX, but as far as I can tell, Google only has GMM for Symbian and not Maemo.  But I'd hate to have to pick up an el-cheapo Android device simply to get my GMM fix<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , but hopefully this will soon pass this year , as other devices come out .
And hopefully Google will roll out Android 2 updates to some existing handsets ( I 've read the myTouch and Magic devices should have enough hardware specs to make it possible/practical , but unfortunately the first G1 will probably be left out ) .My only wish is that I could get Google Maps Mobile on more devices or on real computers .
It was the one app I really miss from the Blackberry I used to have for work .
I 've tried getting it on the Android SDK emulator and on Androidx86 , but it 's not in the feeble stripped-down app repository on those platforms .
Maybe they 'll do one for ChromeOS ?
Doubtful.I still have my sights set on a Nokia N900 to replace my Palm TX , but as far as I can tell , Google only has GMM for Symbian and not Maemo .
But I 'd hate to have to pick up an el-cheapo Android device simply to get my GMM fix : /</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, but hopefully this will soon pass this year, as other devices come out.
And hopefully Google will roll out Android 2 updates to some existing handsets (I've read the myTouch and Magic devices should have enough hardware specs to make it possible/practical, but unfortunately the first G1 will probably be left out).My only wish is that I could get Google Maps Mobile on more devices or on real computers.
It was the one app I really miss from the Blackberry I used to have for work.
I've tried getting it on the Android SDK emulator and on Androidx86, but it's not in the feeble stripped-down app repository on those platforms.
Maybe they'll do one for ChromeOS?
Doubtful.I still have my sights set on a Nokia N900 to replace my Palm TX, but as far as I can tell, Google only has GMM for Symbian and not Maemo.
But I'd hate to have to pick up an el-cheapo Android device simply to get my GMM fix :/</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649848</id>
	<title>Re:Not What We're Looking At</title>
	<author>fractoid</author>
	<datestamp>1262616540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Of these, 21\% said they prefer a phone running Android.  (That's up from 6\% in September.)</p></div><p>And the figures as you give them here are not at all misleading. However, in that context, it's much more useful to represent it as an increase of 15\% of total market share. My guess is that it's just a case of 'sensationalism sells issues'.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of these , 21 \ % said they prefer a phone running Android .
( That 's up from 6 \ % in September .
) And the figures as you give them here are not at all misleading .
However , in that context , it 's much more useful to represent it as an increase of 15 \ % of total market share .
My guess is that it 's just a case of 'sensationalism sells issues' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of these, 21\% said they prefer a phone running Android.
(That's up from 6\% in September.
)And the figures as you give them here are not at all misleading.
However, in that context, it's much more useful to represent it as an increase of 15\% of total market share.
My guess is that it's just a case of 'sensationalism sells issues'.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649048</id>
	<title>Of course</title>
	<author>Auckerman</author>
	<datestamp>1262612040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Googles market model is better.  Multiple phone designs on any carrier that will have them.  It's really that simple.  The design of the OS is better than iPhones competitors.  Though, I do think the application openness is going to bite them in butt over the long term.  Allowing background applications from any provider looks good on paper, but in practice is going to create a bot network.</p><p>If Apple went with all carriers who wanted them and released a handful of branded designs, it's sales would soar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Googles market model is better .
Multiple phone designs on any carrier that will have them .
It 's really that simple .
The design of the OS is better than iPhones competitors .
Though , I do think the application openness is going to bite them in butt over the long term .
Allowing background applications from any provider looks good on paper , but in practice is going to create a bot network.If Apple went with all carriers who wanted them and released a handful of branded designs , it 's sales would soar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Googles market model is better.
Multiple phone designs on any carrier that will have them.
It's really that simple.
The design of the OS is better than iPhones competitors.
Though, I do think the application openness is going to bite them in butt over the long term.
Allowing background applications from any provider looks good on paper, but in practice is going to create a bot network.If Apple went with all carriers who wanted them and released a handful of branded designs, it's sales would soar.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649330</id>
	<title>Re:Googles-to-Apples Comparison</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262613420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is a fair statement to make... sort of... usually.</p><p>But when Apple releases a NEW iPhone, the numbers will change again, especially if the next iPhone contains even more power, reliability or some feature that people have been begging for.  Android is not a threat to iPhone "yet" but there is a chance that it could be one.  Apple's iGadgets are in a class of their own and always have been.  My saying this might make me sound like an Apple supporter or fanboy.  I'm not.  I have no use for Apple.  But I have to acknowledge reality as I see it, and there it is.</p><p>But I think that people who are comparing Androids to iPhones and are finding that they can do more with the droids, functionality may well win over the brand recognition of Apple.  I really don't feel confident enough to issue a prediction either way, but it is unquestionably an interesting market battle to watch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is a fair statement to make... sort of... usually.But when Apple releases a NEW iPhone , the numbers will change again , especially if the next iPhone contains even more power , reliability or some feature that people have been begging for .
Android is not a threat to iPhone " yet " but there is a chance that it could be one .
Apple 's iGadgets are in a class of their own and always have been .
My saying this might make me sound like an Apple supporter or fanboy .
I 'm not .
I have no use for Apple .
But I have to acknowledge reality as I see it , and there it is.But I think that people who are comparing Androids to iPhones and are finding that they can do more with the droids , functionality may well win over the brand recognition of Apple .
I really do n't feel confident enough to issue a prediction either way , but it is unquestionably an interesting market battle to watch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is a fair statement to make... sort of... usually.But when Apple releases a NEW iPhone, the numbers will change again, especially if the next iPhone contains even more power, reliability or some feature that people have been begging for.
Android is not a threat to iPhone "yet" but there is a chance that it could be one.
Apple's iGadgets are in a class of their own and always have been.
My saying this might make me sound like an Apple supporter or fanboy.
I'm not.
I have no use for Apple.
But I have to acknowledge reality as I see it, and there it is.But I think that people who are comparing Androids to iPhones and are finding that they can do more with the droids, functionality may well win over the brand recognition of Apple.
I really don't feel confident enough to issue a prediction either way, but it is unquestionably an interesting market battle to watch.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650732</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>sdguero</author>
	<datestamp>1262622540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The build quality, screen size, and simple ui.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The build quality , screen size , and simple ui .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The build quality, screen size, and simple ui.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650620</id>
	<title>Re:Googles-to-Apples Comparison</title>
	<author>poetmatt</author>
	<datestamp>1262621700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>not really. Iphone is wearing off in it's popularity and android is picking up bigtime with community support. Unless iphone starts actually letting people enjoy the same features across all phones, they're not going to pick up squat this time, dependent on how much of their marketshare/steam is taken away by android.</p><p>currently on an android phone whether a manufacturer allows a feature or not it can basically be guaranteed on the phone due to open source work on the phone. Bluetooth file transfer? A2dP? wireless tethering? exchange server sync?</p><p>the only things left is blackberry sync, and once that's gone, RIM will lose massive marketshare too.</p><p>Lots of the technology is still nascent and is really the only reason it hasn't picked up further.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>not really .
Iphone is wearing off in it 's popularity and android is picking up bigtime with community support .
Unless iphone starts actually letting people enjoy the same features across all phones , they 're not going to pick up squat this time , dependent on how much of their marketshare/steam is taken away by android.currently on an android phone whether a manufacturer allows a feature or not it can basically be guaranteed on the phone due to open source work on the phone .
Bluetooth file transfer ?
A2dP ? wireless tethering ?
exchange server sync ? the only things left is blackberry sync , and once that 's gone , RIM will lose massive marketshare too.Lots of the technology is still nascent and is really the only reason it has n't picked up further .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>not really.
Iphone is wearing off in it's popularity and android is picking up bigtime with community support.
Unless iphone starts actually letting people enjoy the same features across all phones, they're not going to pick up squat this time, dependent on how much of their marketshare/steam is taken away by android.currently on an android phone whether a manufacturer allows a feature or not it can basically be guaranteed on the phone due to open source work on the phone.
Bluetooth file transfer?
A2dP? wireless tethering?
exchange server sync?the only things left is blackberry sync, and once that's gone, RIM will lose massive marketshare too.Lots of the technology is still nascent and is really the only reason it hasn't picked up further.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650780</id>
	<title>Re:At the top...of what?</title>
	<author>symbolic</author>
	<datestamp>1262622960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you realize that the iPhone only has 4\% of the market? Even so, I think the presence of the Android is great, because maybe it will cause Steve J. and his flock of ass-ki...er, fans, to stand back and realize that the iPhone, while quite cool conceptually, suffers from some very lame design issues. Now all Google needs is a phone-less device that can subscribe to a carrier's broadband-only plan.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you realize that the iPhone only has 4 \ % of the market ?
Even so , I think the presence of the Android is great , because maybe it will cause Steve J. and his flock of ass-ki...er , fans , to stand back and realize that the iPhone , while quite cool conceptually , suffers from some very lame design issues .
Now all Google needs is a phone-less device that can subscribe to a carrier 's broadband-only plan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you realize that the iPhone only has 4\% of the market?
Even so, I think the presence of the Android is great, because maybe it will cause Steve J. and his flock of ass-ki...er, fans, to stand back and realize that the iPhone, while quite cool conceptually, suffers from some very lame design issues.
Now all Google needs is a phone-less device that can subscribe to a carrier's broadband-only plan.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30648774</id>
	<title>Android sales since 2007 are up ERROR\%!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262611020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I tried computing the percentage of Android-powered-phone sales growth since 2007, but I kept running into PosInf errors, whatever that means. Sorry. I'll try harder next time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I tried computing the percentage of Android-powered-phone sales growth since 2007 , but I kept running into PosInf errors , whatever that means .
Sorry. I 'll try harder next time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tried computing the percentage of Android-powered-phone sales growth since 2007, but I kept running into PosInf errors, whatever that means.
Sorry. I'll try harder next time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650598</id>
	<title>Re:Of course</title>
	<author>initialE</author>
	<datestamp>1262621460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I fail to see how this market model differs from Microsoft's, well except for the licensing costs of course. And the windows mobile "marketplace" is far more open and varied, it's just the stability and usability that sucks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I fail to see how this market model differs from Microsoft 's , well except for the licensing costs of course .
And the windows mobile " marketplace " is far more open and varied , it 's just the stability and usability that sucks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I fail to see how this market model differs from Microsoft's, well except for the licensing costs of course.
And the windows mobile "marketplace" is far more open and varied, it's just the stability and usability that sucks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30652472</id>
	<title>Re:Ah, smug!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262683440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The phone part of the iPhone is it's least appealing part.  What makes the iPhone amazing is that it is a fully featured small computer with a ton of low-cost apps.  I recently went to a trip to Budapest, Hungary.  I downloaded apps which included an offline map of the city (so no data use), maps of the metro system, and an audio tourist guide.  It was like having my own personal tourist guide.  When back at the hotel I used Skype over wifi to call home cheap.  Sure beat having a big clunky book + large foldout map that screamed "tourist please rob me".</p><p>When the android has the apps the iPhone does, I will consider it.</p></div><p>Oh give me a break. It's not anywhere near "fully featured". It's a pocket kiosk.</p><p>And by the way, Your shiny "look at me!" object called more attention to you and your vast amounts of disposable income than a book and a map ever would have. You get robbed here in America for whipping out an iphone. And you thought it would be better in a poorer country? *facepalm* You're lucky to be alive, buddy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The phone part of the iPhone is it 's least appealing part .
What makes the iPhone amazing is that it is a fully featured small computer with a ton of low-cost apps .
I recently went to a trip to Budapest , Hungary .
I downloaded apps which included an offline map of the city ( so no data use ) , maps of the metro system , and an audio tourist guide .
It was like having my own personal tourist guide .
When back at the hotel I used Skype over wifi to call home cheap .
Sure beat having a big clunky book + large foldout map that screamed " tourist please rob me " .When the android has the apps the iPhone does , I will consider it.Oh give me a break .
It 's not anywhere near " fully featured " .
It 's a pocket kiosk.And by the way , Your shiny " look at me !
" object called more attention to you and your vast amounts of disposable income than a book and a map ever would have .
You get robbed here in America for whipping out an iphone .
And you thought it would be better in a poorer country ?
* facepalm * You 're lucky to be alive , buddy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The phone part of the iPhone is it's least appealing part.
What makes the iPhone amazing is that it is a fully featured small computer with a ton of low-cost apps.
I recently went to a trip to Budapest, Hungary.
I downloaded apps which included an offline map of the city (so no data use), maps of the metro system, and an audio tourist guide.
It was like having my own personal tourist guide.
When back at the hotel I used Skype over wifi to call home cheap.
Sure beat having a big clunky book + large foldout map that screamed "tourist please rob me".When the android has the apps the iPhone does, I will consider it.Oh give me a break.
It's not anywhere near "fully featured".
It's a pocket kiosk.And by the way, Your shiny "look at me!
" object called more attention to you and your vast amounts of disposable income than a book and a map ever would have.
You get robbed here in America for whipping out an iphone.
And you thought it would be better in a poorer country?
*facepalm* You're lucky to be alive, buddy.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649726</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Brian\_Ellenberger</author>
	<datestamp>1262615640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The phone part of the iPhone is it's least appealing part.  What makes the iPhone amazing is that it is a fully featured small computer with a ton of low-cost apps.  I recently went to a trip to Budapest, Hungary.  I downloaded apps which included an offline map of the city (so no data use), maps of the metro system, and an audio tourist guide.  It was like having my own personal tourist guide.  When back at the hotel I used Skype over wifi to call home cheap.  Sure beat having a big clunky book + large foldout map that screamed "tourist please rob me".

When the android has the apps the iPhone does, I will consider it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The phone part of the iPhone is it 's least appealing part .
What makes the iPhone amazing is that it is a fully featured small computer with a ton of low-cost apps .
I recently went to a trip to Budapest , Hungary .
I downloaded apps which included an offline map of the city ( so no data use ) , maps of the metro system , and an audio tourist guide .
It was like having my own personal tourist guide .
When back at the hotel I used Skype over wifi to call home cheap .
Sure beat having a big clunky book + large foldout map that screamed " tourist please rob me " .
When the android has the apps the iPhone does , I will consider it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The phone part of the iPhone is it's least appealing part.
What makes the iPhone amazing is that it is a fully featured small computer with a ton of low-cost apps.
I recently went to a trip to Budapest, Hungary.
I downloaded apps which included an offline map of the city (so no data use), maps of the metro system, and an audio tourist guide.
It was like having my own personal tourist guide.
When back at the hotel I used Skype over wifi to call home cheap.
Sure beat having a big clunky book + large foldout map that screamed "tourist please rob me".
When the android has the apps the iPhone does, I will consider it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650120</id>
	<title>Re:Of course</title>
	<author>unix1</author>
	<datestamp>1262618160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If Apple went with all carriers who wanted them and released a handful of branded designs, it's sales would soar.</p></div><p>Maybe, but that's no the core difference between Google's and Apple's strategies. Apple's model is similar to RIM and Palm where they want to be the producers and the vendors of hardware and software. On the other hand, Google's strategy is similar to Microsoft's where they provide software to any hardware manufacturer.</p><p>So, Apple still wants to be Apple; and Google wants to be the new Microsoft.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If Apple went with all carriers who wanted them and released a handful of branded designs , it 's sales would soar.Maybe , but that 's no the core difference between Google 's and Apple 's strategies .
Apple 's model is similar to RIM and Palm where they want to be the producers and the vendors of hardware and software .
On the other hand , Google 's strategy is similar to Microsoft 's where they provide software to any hardware manufacturer.So , Apple still wants to be Apple ; and Google wants to be the new Microsoft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Apple went with all carriers who wanted them and released a handful of branded designs, it's sales would soar.Maybe, but that's no the core difference between Google's and Apple's strategies.
Apple's model is similar to RIM and Palm where they want to be the producers and the vendors of hardware and software.
On the other hand, Google's strategy is similar to Microsoft's where they provide software to any hardware manufacturer.So, Apple still wants to be Apple; and Google wants to be the new Microsoft.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649108</id>
	<title>Verizon Had a Deal on the Droid Eris</title>
	<author>anukit</author>
	<datestamp>1262612340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Verizon recently (end of December) had a deal to get a free Droid Eris with the purchase of a Droid. Perhaps those polled were aware of that deal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Verizon recently ( end of December ) had a deal to get a free Droid Eris with the purchase of a Droid .
Perhaps those polled were aware of that deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Verizon recently (end of December) had a deal to get a free Droid Eris with the purchase of a Droid.
Perhaps those polled were aware of that deal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649918</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262616960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to charge my HTC Eris daily. What's your point?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to charge my HTC Eris daily .
What 's your point ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to charge my HTC Eris daily.
What's your point?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650328</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1262619540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called "light users" have to charge it daily. Insane...where is the time for such attention?</i></p><p>I just plug it in before I go to sleep. As do, I'm sure, 99\% of cellphone owners.</p><p>"Time for such attention?" Do you sit around and *watch* your phone charge? Seriously? Most people have other, better, things to do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called " light users " have to charge it daily .
Insane...where is the time for such attention ? I just plug it in before I go to sleep .
As do , I 'm sure , 99 \ % of cellphone owners .
" Time for such attention ?
" Do you sit around and * watch * your phone charge ?
Seriously ? Most people have other , better , things to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I loathe about it is the fact that typical users including so called "light users" have to charge it daily.
Insane...where is the time for such attention?I just plug it in before I go to sleep.
As do, I'm sure, 99\% of cellphone owners.
"Time for such attention?
" Do you sit around and *watch* your phone charge?
Seriously? Most people have other, better, things to do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650970</id>
	<title>You can't open iPhone without changing whole model</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1262624340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Symbian, J2ME, Windows Mobile are "open" because they have a very paranoid security model which some hate. iPhone has nothing of that sort, there is no "Apple signed" scheme and Apple loves the "app store" like stuff including the policies. See the hell they gave to basic OS X input manager developers just because some idiot trolls released proof of concepts.</p><p>Apple has set up a monster themselves and there is no way to change it unless they implement "symbian signed" scheme. Things would be a lot easier if they didn't start a lawsuit fight with Nokia along with offensive arguments which are unheard in mobile scene until now.</p><p>Symbian signed makes more sense than J2ME sandbox because both deal with native apps which have real deep access to OS/hardware. I can't really picture Apple allowing 2-3 resident apps I use on Symbian right now, e.g. iON Battery timer... Something replicates battery level functionality with estimated time remaining. Imagine the horror if you submitted something like that to app store<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) Or the idea of a IM application always on and shamelessly added to startup. Or the themes...</p><p>If you open the platform, people will ask for such things from developers and developers will sure ship them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Symbian , J2ME , Windows Mobile are " open " because they have a very paranoid security model which some hate .
iPhone has nothing of that sort , there is no " Apple signed " scheme and Apple loves the " app store " like stuff including the policies .
See the hell they gave to basic OS X input manager developers just because some idiot trolls released proof of concepts.Apple has set up a monster themselves and there is no way to change it unless they implement " symbian signed " scheme .
Things would be a lot easier if they did n't start a lawsuit fight with Nokia along with offensive arguments which are unheard in mobile scene until now.Symbian signed makes more sense than J2ME sandbox because both deal with native apps which have real deep access to OS/hardware .
I ca n't really picture Apple allowing 2-3 resident apps I use on Symbian right now , e.g .
iON Battery timer... Something replicates battery level functionality with estimated time remaining .
Imagine the horror if you submitted something like that to app store : ) Or the idea of a IM application always on and shamelessly added to startup .
Or the themes...If you open the platform , people will ask for such things from developers and developers will sure ship them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Symbian, J2ME, Windows Mobile are "open" because they have a very paranoid security model which some hate.
iPhone has nothing of that sort, there is no "Apple signed" scheme and Apple loves the "app store" like stuff including the policies.
See the hell they gave to basic OS X input manager developers just because some idiot trolls released proof of concepts.Apple has set up a monster themselves and there is no way to change it unless they implement "symbian signed" scheme.
Things would be a lot easier if they didn't start a lawsuit fight with Nokia along with offensive arguments which are unheard in mobile scene until now.Symbian signed makes more sense than J2ME sandbox because both deal with native apps which have real deep access to OS/hardware.
I can't really picture Apple allowing 2-3 resident apps I use on Symbian right now, e.g.
iON Battery timer... Something replicates battery level functionality with estimated time remaining.
Imagine the horror if you submitted something like that to app store :) Or the idea of a IM application always on and shamelessly added to startup.
Or the themes...If you open the platform, people will ask for such things from developers and developers will sure ship them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30654926</id>
	<title>Differance?</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1262707500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As someone who does PLAN to buy a new phone in the next 6 months, what is the basic difference between the top 3 that would make it an advantage over another?</p><p>iPhone<br>Blackberry<br>Droid</p><p>I have done a bit of research, and I realize the the Droid and Blackberry phones will come in different flavors and thus different capabilities, which is likely part of their appeal. Anyway having never owned a smart phone before, I am wondering what features each have that would be the "deal breaker" for me. I know Blackberry (typically) has a tactile keyboard while the iPhone does not, and that many prefere that, though perhaps that is merely preference. What other large differences do these platforms have, and what do each really excel at?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone who does PLAN to buy a new phone in the next 6 months , what is the basic difference between the top 3 that would make it an advantage over another ? iPhoneBlackberryDroidI have done a bit of research , and I realize the the Droid and Blackberry phones will come in different flavors and thus different capabilities , which is likely part of their appeal .
Anyway having never owned a smart phone before , I am wondering what features each have that would be the " deal breaker " for me .
I know Blackberry ( typically ) has a tactile keyboard while the iPhone does not , and that many prefere that , though perhaps that is merely preference .
What other large differences do these platforms have , and what do each really excel at ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone who does PLAN to buy a new phone in the next 6 months, what is the basic difference between the top 3 that would make it an advantage over another?iPhoneBlackberryDroidI have done a bit of research, and I realize the the Droid and Blackberry phones will come in different flavors and thus different capabilities, which is likely part of their appeal.
Anyway having never owned a smart phone before, I am wondering what features each have that would be the "deal breaker" for me.
I know Blackberry (typically) has a tactile keyboard while the iPhone does not, and that many prefere that, though perhaps that is merely preference.
What other large differences do these platforms have, and what do each really excel at?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30653202</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262692560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Score:5, Interesting<br>Score:-100, Geek</p><p>There's nothing amazing about any of that.  Nokia and other companies have provided similar functionality for years.</p><p>What's amazing is that Apple have bundled and marketed the iPhone is such a way that anyone can use it.</p><p>My argument is damaged by the fact that it has become really hard to find non-iPhone apps these days...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Score : 5 , InterestingScore : -100 , GeekThere 's nothing amazing about any of that .
Nokia and other companies have provided similar functionality for years.What 's amazing is that Apple have bundled and marketed the iPhone is such a way that anyone can use it.My argument is damaged by the fact that it has become really hard to find non-iPhone apps these days.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Score:5, InterestingScore:-100, GeekThere's nothing amazing about any of that.
Nokia and other companies have provided similar functionality for years.What's amazing is that Apple have bundled and marketed the iPhone is such a way that anyone can use it.My argument is damaged by the fact that it has become really hard to find non-iPhone apps these days...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30680382</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Rexdude</author>
	<datestamp>1262861280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>India?? Apple opened a development centre here in Bangalore and shut it down within a year. This was quite some time ago-I daresay before the iPhone was launched.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>India ? ?
Apple opened a development centre here in Bangalore and shut it down within a year .
This was quite some time ago-I daresay before the iPhone was launched .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>India??
Apple opened a development centre here in Bangalore and shut it down within a year.
This was quite some time ago-I daresay before the iPhone was launched.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650110</id>
	<title>Re:Googles-to-Apples Comparison</title>
	<author>briareus</author>
	<datestamp>1262618100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Place and growth are 2 different things.  Much like speed and acceleration.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Place and growth are 2 different things .
Much like speed and acceleration .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Place and growth are 2 different things.
Much like speed and acceleration.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650050</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>mgblst</author>
	<datestamp>1262617740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are ignorant if you can't find lots of reasons why the iPhone is better than lots of phones. It doesn't have to the best phone out there, just better than phones most people currently have.</p><p>Have you heard of the app store, genius? There is nothing like it before. It was tricky in the past to get some app on phones, even for me. You have to get the right jar file, use Activesync, put it in the right place, then discover it doesn't support your screen res.</p><p>That is just one aspect. Are you really that fucking ignorant?</p><p>And most people go to sleep every night, so charging isn't a big deal. My iPhone will last two days without a charge.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are ignorant if you ca n't find lots of reasons why the iPhone is better than lots of phones .
It does n't have to the best phone out there , just better than phones most people currently have.Have you heard of the app store , genius ?
There is nothing like it before .
It was tricky in the past to get some app on phones , even for me .
You have to get the right jar file , use Activesync , put it in the right place , then discover it does n't support your screen res.That is just one aspect .
Are you really that fucking ignorant ? And most people go to sleep every night , so charging is n't a big deal .
My iPhone will last two days without a charge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are ignorant if you can't find lots of reasons why the iPhone is better than lots of phones.
It doesn't have to the best phone out there, just better than phones most people currently have.Have you heard of the app store, genius?
There is nothing like it before.
It was tricky in the past to get some app on phones, even for me.
You have to get the right jar file, use Activesync, put it in the right place, then discover it doesn't support your screen res.That is just one aspect.
Are you really that fucking ignorant?And most people go to sleep every night, so charging isn't a big deal.
My iPhone will last two days without a charge.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30651648</id>
	<title>Re:I just bought a Droid</title>
	<author>ffflala</author>
	<datestamp>1262630820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do you need to multimedia dock to use its alarm function? It comes w/ an alarm clock app. I've been using it as an alarm clock for a few weeks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do you need to multimedia dock to use its alarm function ?
It comes w/ an alarm clock app .
I 've been using it as an alarm clock for a few weeks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do you need to multimedia dock to use its alarm function?
It comes w/ an alarm clock app.
I've been using it as an alarm clock for a few weeks.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30654592</id>
	<title>Re:Release Cycle</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1262706060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not sure - can you clarify where exactly they are on the <a href="http://www.misterbg.org/AppleProductCycle/" title="misterbg.org">release cycle</a> [misterbg.org]?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure - can you clarify where exactly they are on the release cycle [ misterbg.org ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure - can you clarify where exactly they are on the release cycle [misterbg.org]?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650452</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>maitai</author>
	<datestamp>1262620200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Visual voicemail?</p><p>I know for a fact that the Blackberry Storms (1 and 2) have this feature available on the Verizon network. As far as I'm aware other Verizon phones support this feature as well.</p><p><a href="http://support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling\_features/visual\_voice\_mail.html" title="vzw.com" rel="nofollow">http://support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling\_features/visual\_voice\_mail.html</a> [vzw.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Visual voicemail ? I know for a fact that the Blackberry Storms ( 1 and 2 ) have this feature available on the Verizon network .
As far as I 'm aware other Verizon phones support this feature as well.http : //support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling \ _features/visual \ _voice \ _mail.html [ vzw.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Visual voicemail?I know for a fact that the Blackberry Storms (1 and 2) have this feature available on the Verizon network.
As far as I'm aware other Verizon phones support this feature as well.http://support.vzw.com/clc/features/calling\_features/visual\_voice\_mail.html [vzw.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650330</id>
	<title>Availability</title>
	<author>Nato2k</author>
	<datestamp>1262619600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am sure the fact that every carrier other than AT&amp;T has multiple Android phones available has nothing to do with the increase.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am sure the fact that every carrier other than AT&amp;T has multiple Android phones available has nothing to do with the increase .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am sure the fact that every carrier other than AT&amp;T has multiple Android phones available has nothing to do with the increase.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650012</id>
	<title>Don't Cry Assclown, No One Is Going To Take Away</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262617500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>your precious iPhone.</p><p>Stop spamming Slashdot with your damage control over the explosive growth of Android. Go back to quietly sobbing with your hipster friends at Starbucks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>your precious iPhone.Stop spamming Slashdot with your damage control over the explosive growth of Android .
Go back to quietly sobbing with your hipster friends at Starbucks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>your precious iPhone.Stop spamming Slashdot with your damage control over the explosive growth of Android.
Go back to quietly sobbing with your hipster friends at Starbucks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30648984</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650040</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1262617680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone.</p></div></blockquote><p>The technical term is "a logo".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone.The technical term is " a logo " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone.The technical term is "a logo".
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30648984</id>
	<title>I plan on writing a post after I write the subject</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262611800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Notice that this wasn't a report of 250\% sales growth... it was a report of 250\% increase in a poll asking "What cell phone do you PLAN to buy?"... not quite the same thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Notice that this was n't a report of 250 \ % sales growth... it was a report of 250 \ % increase in a poll asking " What cell phone do you PLAN to buy ? " .. .
not quite the same thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Notice that this wasn't a report of 250\% sales growth... it was a report of 250\% increase in a poll asking "What cell phone do you PLAN to buy?"...
not quite the same thing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649328</id>
	<title>Re:Of course</title>
	<author>0xdeadbeef</author>
	<datestamp>1262613360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>but in practice is going to create a bot network</p></div></blockquote><p>How do you do that? That's amazing!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>but in practice is going to create a bot networkHow do you do that ?
That 's amazing !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but in practice is going to create a bot networkHow do you do that?
That's amazing!
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30651682</id>
	<title>Android overthrowing iPhone?</title>
	<author>sleeping143</author>
	<datestamp>1262631180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And, in other news, it's the year of Linux on the Desktop! *ducks*</htmltext>
<tokenext>And , in other news , it 's the year of Linux on the Desktop !
* ducks *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And, in other news, it's the year of Linux on the Desktop!
*ducks*</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30648960</id>
	<title>Sounds like real data to confirm the survey</title>
	<author>Suki I</author>
	<datestamp>1262611680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Motorola's share of smartphone purchases in the next 90 days shot up from 1\% in September to 13\% in December. Carton tagged the company's Droid as the reason. '[It's] the first increase for Motorola we've seen in three years,' Carton said."</p></div></blockquote><p>

The survey could mean lots of things without this bit of confirmation data.  Sales are going in the same direction as the survey.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Motorola 's share of smartphone purchases in the next 90 days shot up from 1 \ % in September to 13 \ % in December .
Carton tagged the company 's Droid as the reason .
' [ It 's ] the first increase for Motorola we 've seen in three years, ' Carton said .
" The survey could mean lots of things without this bit of confirmation data .
Sales are going in the same direction as the survey .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Motorola's share of smartphone purchases in the next 90 days shot up from 1\% in September to 13\% in December.
Carton tagged the company's Droid as the reason.
'[It's] the first increase for Motorola we've seen in three years,' Carton said.
"

The survey could mean lots of things without this bit of confirmation data.
Sales are going in the same direction as the survey.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30649386</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262613660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone. I have never got a satisfying answer.</p></div><p>The ability to see all of your voice mails without having to listen to them sequentially. You have a list, you can listen to any of them in any order. And you don't have to listen to them at all and still be able to delete them. - you can't do that with other services. That is why Apple is exclusive to ATT because the other carriers refused to do the necessary things to their systems to allow for that.</p><p>Some folks think that's worth the extra cost. Then there are the "it's a cool gadget" crowd who buy anything at any price - especially if it's made by Apple. BTW - the iPhone is made in China, Software designed and coded in India. Apple is just a design and marketing company now.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone .
I have never got a satisfying answer.The ability to see all of your voice mails without having to listen to them sequentially .
You have a list , you can listen to any of them in any order .
And you do n't have to listen to them at all and still be able to delete them .
- you ca n't do that with other services .
That is why Apple is exclusive to ATT because the other carriers refused to do the necessary things to their systems to allow for that.Some folks think that 's worth the extra cost .
Then there are the " it 's a cool gadget " crowd who buy anything at any price - especially if it 's made by Apple .
BTW - the iPhone is made in China , Software designed and coded in India .
Apple is just a design and marketing company now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I often wondered what was so special about the iPhone.
I have never got a satisfying answer.The ability to see all of your voice mails without having to listen to them sequentially.
You have a list, you can listen to any of them in any order.
And you don't have to listen to them at all and still be able to delete them.
- you can't do that with other services.
That is why Apple is exclusive to ATT because the other carriers refused to do the necessary things to their systems to allow for that.Some folks think that's worth the extra cost.
Then there are the "it's a cool gadget" crowd who buy anything at any price - especially if it's made by Apple.
BTW - the iPhone is made in China, Software designed and coded in India.
Apple is just a design and marketing company now.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30650924</id>
	<title>Re:I am not surprised</title>
	<author>Dare nMc</author>
	<datestamp>1262623980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Apple is exclusive to ATT because the other carriers refused to do the necessary things to their systems to allow for that.</p></div><p>And who was correct? ATT spent the money/resources where Apple told them, millions updating voice mail for text search, while Verizon apparently spent those resources on network improvements.  Now Apple gets all the credit, and a chunk of all sales, in exchange ATT gets Apple's PR machine (which is shifting all blame on ATT, despite Apple having complete say in what requirements ATT network needed) While Verizon now has the Google PR machine, and Google developed even better voice mail for the phone (actually Voice to text search/preview of emails) and ATT doesn't have to pay a dime for it.  Since ATT (same as VZ) doesn't seam to own those rights to anything, Apple is able to take their reputation intact, and a 3\% market share leaving ATT with any black eyes.  Obviously Apple is the big winner, but going forward VZ and GOOG look to be in the Cat bird seat.  Both great, but which PR machine would you bet more on, Apple or Google?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple is exclusive to ATT because the other carriers refused to do the necessary things to their systems to allow for that.And who was correct ?
ATT spent the money/resources where Apple told them , millions updating voice mail for text search , while Verizon apparently spent those resources on network improvements .
Now Apple gets all the credit , and a chunk of all sales , in exchange ATT gets Apple 's PR machine ( which is shifting all blame on ATT , despite Apple having complete say in what requirements ATT network needed ) While Verizon now has the Google PR machine , and Google developed even better voice mail for the phone ( actually Voice to text search/preview of emails ) and ATT does n't have to pay a dime for it .
Since ATT ( same as VZ ) does n't seam to own those rights to anything , Apple is able to take their reputation intact , and a 3 \ % market share leaving ATT with any black eyes .
Obviously Apple is the big winner , but going forward VZ and GOOG look to be in the Cat bird seat .
Both great , but which PR machine would you bet more on , Apple or Google ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple is exclusive to ATT because the other carriers refused to do the necessary things to their systems to allow for that.And who was correct?
ATT spent the money/resources where Apple told them, millions updating voice mail for text search, while Verizon apparently spent those resources on network improvements.
Now Apple gets all the credit, and a chunk of all sales, in exchange ATT gets Apple's PR machine (which is shifting all blame on ATT, despite Apple having complete say in what requirements ATT network needed) While Verizon now has the Google PR machine, and Google developed even better voice mail for the phone (actually Voice to text search/preview of emails) and ATT doesn't have to pay a dime for it.
Since ATT (same as VZ) doesn't seam to own those rights to anything, Apple is able to take their reputation intact, and a 3\% market share leaving ATT with any black eyes.
Obviously Apple is the big winner, but going forward VZ and GOOG look to be in the Cat bird seat.
Both great, but which PR machine would you bet more on, Apple or Google?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30656164</id>
	<title>good for Android</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262712420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And this may be the case until the next iPhone refresh, when the market will probably switch back.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And this may be the case until the next iPhone refresh , when the market will probably switch back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And this may be the case until the next iPhone refresh, when the market will probably switch back.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_224259.30648936</id>
	<title>Now 5 people use em!</title>
	<author>Jonas Buyl</author>
	<datestamp>1262611560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That must mean Android sales skyrocketed from 2 to 7 users!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D
<br> <br>
On a more serious note: I love Google products, if only they'd market them better they'd be at the top with the iPhone easily.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That must mean Android sales skyrocketed from 2 to 7 users !
: D On a more serious note : I love Google products , if only they 'd market them better they 'd be at the top with the iPhone easily .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That must mean Android sales skyrocketed from 2 to 7 users!
:D
 
On a more serious note: I love Google products, if only they'd market them better they'd be at the top with the iPhone easily.</sentencetext>
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