<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_04_1947253</id>
	<title>Best Buy $39.95 "Optimization" At Best a Waste of Money</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1262597400000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>DCFC writes <i>"The Consumerist deconstructs the appalling '<a href="http://consumerist.com/2010/01/consumerist-investigation-best-buy-optimization-is-a-big-stupid-annoying-waste-of-money.html">optimization service</a>' that Best Buy has been pushing on consumers in recent weeks.  The retailer charges 40 bucks to give you a slower PC, and make bizarre claims that it makes it go 200\% faster.  'We ran the 3DMark 2003 graphics benchmark on each laptop, comparing optimized and non-optimized settings. For two of our samples, the Gateway and Toshiba, performance changes were negligible. On the Asus laptop, however, optimized tests actually scored about 32\% worse than the non-optimized setup. We have been unable to isolate the source of this performance change. On none of the three tested laptops did the optimized settings give a performance boost in our test.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>DCFC writes " The Consumerist deconstructs the appalling 'optimization service ' that Best Buy has been pushing on consumers in recent weeks .
The retailer charges 40 bucks to give you a slower PC , and make bizarre claims that it makes it go 200 \ % faster .
'We ran the 3DMark 2003 graphics benchmark on each laptop , comparing optimized and non-optimized settings .
For two of our samples , the Gateway and Toshiba , performance changes were negligible .
On the Asus laptop , however , optimized tests actually scored about 32 \ % worse than the non-optimized setup .
We have been unable to isolate the source of this performance change .
On none of the three tested laptops did the optimized settings give a performance boost in our test .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DCFC writes "The Consumerist deconstructs the appalling 'optimization service' that Best Buy has been pushing on consumers in recent weeks.
The retailer charges 40 bucks to give you a slower PC, and make bizarre claims that it makes it go 200\% faster.
'We ran the 3DMark 2003 graphics benchmark on each laptop, comparing optimized and non-optimized settings.
For two of our samples, the Gateway and Toshiba, performance changes were negligible.
On the Asus laptop, however, optimized tests actually scored about 32\% worse than the non-optimized setup.
We have been unable to isolate the source of this performance change.
On none of the three tested laptops did the optimized settings give a performance boost in our test.
'"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30649356</id>
	<title>Re:Best Buy salesmen</title>
	<author>n dot l</author>
	<datestamp>1262613540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"No I don't want the super awesome $50 Monster Cables with gold tips."</p></div><p>Heh. Monster sells that cheap? I asked my mom to pick up an HDMI cable for me since she was going to be shopping in the area. I told her, buy the cheapest one you can find. Somehow they talked her into getting a 10 foot cable that cost $80. Had a nice time showing their idiot manager (because apparently you can't get actual cash back for an unopened item without a manager...) my $15 receipt for a 12 foot HDMI cable when I returned the ridiculous Monster one.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>What's bad is when you get a salesman who wants to argue with you. "But you need our service plan!!" Sometimes I just want to throttle these guys.</p></div><p>Yup. Bought a new video card a while ago (mine had fried and, unlike with the cable, I couldn't wait for an online order). The sales dude takes me up to the counter and asks me when I'll bring my machine in for the installation. Not whether I'd be interested in them installing it, flat-out when I'll be back with the box. I tell him I'll do it myself...</p><p>BB: "Oh, but we have special equipment!"<br>Me: "What, a Phillips screwdriver?"<br>BB: "No, no we have a special electronics lab with static protection..."<br>Me: "A grounding strap (that I bet your tech ignores) hardly qualifies as a lab."<br>BB: "But we've got a trained -"<br>Me: "I already said I'll install it myself. Why are you still badgering me about this?"<br>BB: "But we'll install the drivers and optimize them for you!"<br>Me: "Like hell I'd let you near my work files. Just drop the damn -"<br>BB: "Nothing to worry about! We're sworn to the highest standards of confidentiality, your information is safe with us!"</p><p>At that point I told him to fetch me his manager...who proceeded to defend him, and kept trying to sell the "service". I went over to Staples and bought the same card for a bit more, though they shut up about their extended warranty at the first "no, thanks".</p></div>
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<tokenext>" No I do n't want the super awesome $ 50 Monster Cables with gold tips. " Heh .
Monster sells that cheap ?
I asked my mom to pick up an HDMI cable for me since she was going to be shopping in the area .
I told her , buy the cheapest one you can find .
Somehow they talked her into getting a 10 foot cable that cost $ 80 .
Had a nice time showing their idiot manager ( because apparently you ca n't get actual cash back for an unopened item without a manager... ) my $ 15 receipt for a 12 foot HDMI cable when I returned the ridiculous Monster one.What 's bad is when you get a salesman who wants to argue with you .
" But you need our service plan ! !
" Sometimes I just want to throttle these guys.Yup .
Bought a new video card a while ago ( mine had fried and , unlike with the cable , I could n't wait for an online order ) .
The sales dude takes me up to the counter and asks me when I 'll bring my machine in for the installation .
Not whether I 'd be interested in them installing it , flat-out when I 'll be back with the box .
I tell him I 'll do it myself...BB : " Oh , but we have special equipment !
" Me : " What , a Phillips screwdriver ?
" BB : " No , no we have a special electronics lab with static protection... " Me : " A grounding strap ( that I bet your tech ignores ) hardly qualifies as a lab .
" BB : " But we 've got a trained - " Me : " I already said I 'll install it myself .
Why are you still badgering me about this ?
" BB : " But we 'll install the drivers and optimize them for you !
" Me : " Like hell I 'd let you near my work files .
Just drop the damn - " BB : " Nothing to worry about !
We 're sworn to the highest standards of confidentiality , your information is safe with us !
" At that point I told him to fetch me his manager...who proceeded to defend him , and kept trying to sell the " service " .
I went over to Staples and bought the same card for a bit more , though they shut up about their extended warranty at the first " no , thanks " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"No I don't want the super awesome $50 Monster Cables with gold tips."Heh.
Monster sells that cheap?
I asked my mom to pick up an HDMI cable for me since she was going to be shopping in the area.
I told her, buy the cheapest one you can find.
Somehow they talked her into getting a 10 foot cable that cost $80.
Had a nice time showing their idiot manager (because apparently you can't get actual cash back for an unopened item without a manager...) my $15 receipt for a 12 foot HDMI cable when I returned the ridiculous Monster one.What's bad is when you get a salesman who wants to argue with you.
"But you need our service plan!!
" Sometimes I just want to throttle these guys.Yup.
Bought a new video card a while ago (mine had fried and, unlike with the cable, I couldn't wait for an online order).
The sales dude takes me up to the counter and asks me when I'll bring my machine in for the installation.
Not whether I'd be interested in them installing it, flat-out when I'll be back with the box.
I tell him I'll do it myself...BB: "Oh, but we have special equipment!
"Me: "What, a Phillips screwdriver?
"BB: "No, no we have a special electronics lab with static protection..."Me: "A grounding strap (that I bet your tech ignores) hardly qualifies as a lab.
"BB: "But we've got a trained -"Me: "I already said I'll install it myself.
Why are you still badgering me about this?
"BB: "But we'll install the drivers and optimize them for you!
"Me: "Like hell I'd let you near my work files.
Just drop the damn -"BB: "Nothing to worry about!
We're sworn to the highest standards of confidentiality, your information is safe with us!
"At that point I told him to fetch me his manager...who proceeded to defend him, and kept trying to sell the "service".
I went over to Staples and bought the same card for a bit more, though they shut up about their extended warranty at the first "no, thanks".
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647528</id>
	<title>Words from an ex-Geek Squad Agent</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262605140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Alright, lemme explain a few things: the "optimizations" are developed by a corporate team. This software is then put out on the corp server to be downloaded by the individual stores to be used. Now, most of this optimization is stuff that anyone who knows Windows and has some regedit experience can do. One of 'em is that is lowers the milliseconds it takes for the start menu to appear. Creates shortcuts for 'My Computer', 'My Documents', and IE on the desktop. The issues lies in that they're using a generic program to "optimize" all these computers. Well friends, can I get an amen when I say GENERIC TWEAKS &amp; FIXES WILL NOT WORK EVERYWHERE! =D Besides, honestly, feel sorry for at least SOME of those agents. Yea, it's a sub-par IT task force that tries to come off as cutting edge, but that's mostly because of the corporate structure that forces the agents of the Geek Squad to ONLY use the software that is OK'd. As in, their virus/spyware removal... is like 5 different trial versions of anti-virus software that they run sequentially. No joke. The Geek Squad would do SO much better if the parent company (Best Buy) would allow the agents to use software that anybody can use. Problem is most of this software is protected under the GNU agreement (yes, I think it's a good thing) meaning that a person/company cannot charge a fee for that. So, yea, I'd take my computer elsewhere, but as far as computers go: laptops seriously benefit from the "Black Tie Protection."

"Um, I can really trash my laptop, bring it back, and get it fixed, replaced, or the amount of money I spent towards a new one?"
"Yes, as long as it's accidental."
"And I get my battery AND my AC adapter replaced?"
"Yep, those are shipped right to your door in 5 business days."

Seriously, no joke, they really are a good idea on cell phones and laptops. "But they almost double the price of the laptop!" Oh boo-hoo, when's the last time you spend an extra $100-$300 to guarantee that if anything happens to your item (besides loss or theft and I hope people reading this realize why) you get a new one no matter how many times in the next 2-3 years? Think about it... and do the math.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Alright , lem me explain a few things : the " optimizations " are developed by a corporate team .
This software is then put out on the corp server to be downloaded by the individual stores to be used .
Now , most of this optimization is stuff that anyone who knows Windows and has some regedit experience can do .
One of 'em is that is lowers the milliseconds it takes for the start menu to appear .
Creates shortcuts for 'My Computer ' , 'My Documents ' , and IE on the desktop .
The issues lies in that they 're using a generic program to " optimize " all these computers .
Well friends , can I get an amen when I say GENERIC TWEAKS &amp; FIXES WILL NOT WORK EVERYWHERE !
= D Besides , honestly , feel sorry for at least SOME of those agents .
Yea , it 's a sub-par IT task force that tries to come off as cutting edge , but that 's mostly because of the corporate structure that forces the agents of the Geek Squad to ONLY use the software that is OK 'd .
As in , their virus/spyware removal... is like 5 different trial versions of anti-virus software that they run sequentially .
No joke .
The Geek Squad would do SO much better if the parent company ( Best Buy ) would allow the agents to use software that anybody can use .
Problem is most of this software is protected under the GNU agreement ( yes , I think it 's a good thing ) meaning that a person/company can not charge a fee for that .
So , yea , I 'd take my computer elsewhere , but as far as computers go : laptops seriously benefit from the " Black Tie Protection .
" " Um , I can really trash my laptop , bring it back , and get it fixed , replaced , or the amount of money I spent towards a new one ?
" " Yes , as long as it 's accidental .
" " And I get my battery AND my AC adapter replaced ?
" " Yep , those are shipped right to your door in 5 business days .
" Seriously , no joke , they really are a good idea on cell phones and laptops .
" But they almost double the price of the laptop !
" Oh boo-hoo , when 's the last time you spend an extra $ 100- $ 300 to guarantee that if anything happens to your item ( besides loss or theft and I hope people reading this realize why ) you get a new one no matter how many times in the next 2-3 years ?
Think about it... and do the math .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alright, lemme explain a few things: the "optimizations" are developed by a corporate team.
This software is then put out on the corp server to be downloaded by the individual stores to be used.
Now, most of this optimization is stuff that anyone who knows Windows and has some regedit experience can do.
One of 'em is that is lowers the milliseconds it takes for the start menu to appear.
Creates shortcuts for 'My Computer', 'My Documents', and IE on the desktop.
The issues lies in that they're using a generic program to "optimize" all these computers.
Well friends, can I get an amen when I say GENERIC TWEAKS &amp; FIXES WILL NOT WORK EVERYWHERE!
=D Besides, honestly, feel sorry for at least SOME of those agents.
Yea, it's a sub-par IT task force that tries to come off as cutting edge, but that's mostly because of the corporate structure that forces the agents of the Geek Squad to ONLY use the software that is OK'd.
As in, their virus/spyware removal... is like 5 different trial versions of anti-virus software that they run sequentially.
No joke.
The Geek Squad would do SO much better if the parent company (Best Buy) would allow the agents to use software that anybody can use.
Problem is most of this software is protected under the GNU agreement (yes, I think it's a good thing) meaning that a person/company cannot charge a fee for that.
So, yea, I'd take my computer elsewhere, but as far as computers go: laptops seriously benefit from the "Black Tie Protection.
"

"Um, I can really trash my laptop, bring it back, and get it fixed, replaced, or the amount of money I spent towards a new one?
"
"Yes, as long as it's accidental.
"
"And I get my battery AND my AC adapter replaced?
"
"Yep, those are shipped right to your door in 5 business days.
"

Seriously, no joke, they really are a good idea on cell phones and laptops.
"But they almost double the price of the laptop!
" Oh boo-hoo, when's the last time you spend an extra $100-$300 to guarantee that if anything happens to your item (besides loss or theft and I hope people reading this realize why) you get a new one no matter how many times in the next 2-3 years?
Think about it... and do the math.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648824</id>
	<title>Pre-Optimized???</title>
	<author>dr.banes</author>
	<datestamp>1262611200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>To me, pre-optimizing from a brick and mortar means it is an "open box" and "used item". I believe Sony charges $50 extra for selling a PC or laptop OS only and without crapware. Charging $40 extra for a laptop or desktop that they took out the box, then got their grubby geek squad hands on all over it is deceitful I think. If the price is $429.99 in the weekly ad, and you get there they "only" have $469.99 models because they were optimized--that's bait and switch.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To me , pre-optimizing from a brick and mortar means it is an " open box " and " used item " .
I believe Sony charges $ 50 extra for selling a PC or laptop OS only and without crapware .
Charging $ 40 extra for a laptop or desktop that they took out the box , then got their grubby geek squad hands on all over it is deceitful I think .
If the price is $ 429.99 in the weekly ad , and you get there they " only " have $ 469.99 models because they were optimized--that 's bait and switch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To me, pre-optimizing from a brick and mortar means it is an "open box" and "used item".
I believe Sony charges $50 extra for selling a PC or laptop OS only and without crapware.
Charging $40 extra for a laptop or desktop that they took out the box, then got their grubby geek squad hands on all over it is deceitful I think.
If the price is $429.99 in the weekly ad, and you get there they "only" have $469.99 models because they were optimized--that's bait and switch.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647066</id>
	<title>Staples</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262603160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am a Staples easytech idiot and we basically have the same service for $10 cheaper called a pc tune-up. We run a norton toolkit scan, meaning "find out if we can push a virus removal service (129.99)," and nothing more than a basic "windows cleanup." This is usually a 29.99 service although it just so happens to be free right now. All the big box stores are a scam, preying on the lack of basic public knowledge like any local car mechanic.<br>
<br>
Sadly I happen to be preaching to the choir. We will continue to have customers pouring in with the most mind-numbingly simple problems that we charge $150 to fix in the end. It's this fact that actually makes it a difficult job for me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am a Staples easytech idiot and we basically have the same service for $ 10 cheaper called a pc tune-up .
We run a norton toolkit scan , meaning " find out if we can push a virus removal service ( 129.99 ) , " and nothing more than a basic " windows cleanup .
" This is usually a 29.99 service although it just so happens to be free right now .
All the big box stores are a scam , preying on the lack of basic public knowledge like any local car mechanic .
Sadly I happen to be preaching to the choir .
We will continue to have customers pouring in with the most mind-numbingly simple problems that we charge $ 150 to fix in the end .
It 's this fact that actually makes it a difficult job for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am a Staples easytech idiot and we basically have the same service for $10 cheaper called a pc tune-up.
We run a norton toolkit scan, meaning "find out if we can push a virus removal service (129.99)," and nothing more than a basic "windows cleanup.
" This is usually a 29.99 service although it just so happens to be free right now.
All the big box stores are a scam, preying on the lack of basic public knowledge like any local car mechanic.
Sadly I happen to be preaching to the choir.
We will continue to have customers pouring in with the most mind-numbingly simple problems that we charge $150 to fix in the end.
It's this fact that actually makes it a difficult job for me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30673286</id>
	<title>Re:I'll optimize your new PC for free.</title>
	<author>tpwch</author>
	<datestamp>1262808300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Troll? It was meant as a joke<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</htmltext>
<tokenext>Troll ?
It was meant as a joke : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Troll?
It was meant as a joke :(</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647186</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647936</id>
	<title>Re:Staples</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262606940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait, are you insinuating that muffler bearings and headlight fluid do not need to be changed? Blasphemer!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait , are you insinuating that muffler bearings and headlight fluid do not need to be changed ?
Blasphemer !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait, are you insinuating that muffler bearings and headlight fluid do not need to be changed?
Blasphemer!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646800</id>
	<title>Waste of money, may make computer slower...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262602200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Waste of money, may make computer slower...</p><p>In other news, the sky is blue, water is wet, and obnoxious body sprays will not get you laid...</p><p>sigh</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Waste of money , may make computer slower...In other news , the sky is blue , water is wet , and obnoxious body sprays will not get you laid...sigh</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Waste of money, may make computer slower...In other news, the sky is blue, water is wet, and obnoxious body sprays will not get you laid...sigh</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647752</id>
	<title>Best Buy a waste of money? No shit...</title>
	<author>Jackie\_Chan\_Fan</author>
	<datestamp>1262606100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Learn to use a computer or be kind to someone that knows computers<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Learn to use a computer or be kind to someone that knows computers : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Learn to use a computer or be kind to someone that knows computers :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646824</id>
	<title>Some good comes of this</title>
	<author>MobyDisk</author>
	<datestamp>1262602260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First thing I do with a retail computer is delete all the crud.  Trials, stuff that runs at startup unnecessarily, etc.  Sometimes you can just reinstall the OS from the restore disk and start from there.  Then there is the icon cleanup, which can take forever.</p><p>"Bob's Software Company\Tax Pro\Tax Pro.lnk" becomes "Tax Pro"<br>"Adobe\Adobe Acrobate Reader.lnk" becomes "Junk\Acrobat Reader.lnk"</p><p>The article says that Best Buy did cleanup the desktop.  Hopefully, this will create an awareness of just how much manufacturers are screwing over their customers.  They include all this junk, then the end-user pays someone to clean it off.  There's many times I thought about actually writing a program that does this.</p><p>If Best Buy offered a service to do this without screwing up the laptops or lying to customers, then it might actually be a good thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First thing I do with a retail computer is delete all the crud .
Trials , stuff that runs at startup unnecessarily , etc .
Sometimes you can just reinstall the OS from the restore disk and start from there .
Then there is the icon cleanup , which can take forever .
" Bob 's Software Company \ Tax Pro \ Tax Pro.lnk " becomes " Tax Pro " " Adobe \ Adobe Acrobate Reader.lnk " becomes " Junk \ Acrobat Reader.lnk " The article says that Best Buy did cleanup the desktop .
Hopefully , this will create an awareness of just how much manufacturers are screwing over their customers .
They include all this junk , then the end-user pays someone to clean it off .
There 's many times I thought about actually writing a program that does this.If Best Buy offered a service to do this without screwing up the laptops or lying to customers , then it might actually be a good thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First thing I do with a retail computer is delete all the crud.
Trials, stuff that runs at startup unnecessarily, etc.
Sometimes you can just reinstall the OS from the restore disk and start from there.
Then there is the icon cleanup, which can take forever.
"Bob's Software Company\Tax Pro\Tax Pro.lnk" becomes "Tax Pro""Adobe\Adobe Acrobate Reader.lnk" becomes "Junk\Acrobat Reader.lnk"The article says that Best Buy did cleanup the desktop.
Hopefully, this will create an awareness of just how much manufacturers are screwing over their customers.
They include all this junk, then the end-user pays someone to clean it off.
There's many times I thought about actually writing a program that does this.If Best Buy offered a service to do this without screwing up the laptops or lying to customers, then it might actually be a good thing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647230</id>
	<title>Yeah it's crap</title>
	<author>foobs</author>
	<datestamp>1262603880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I worked at Best Buy as a computer tech years ago before they changed to Geek Squad.  Yes, the system optimization was a total joke.  I just found a backup of my old "sysop" thumb drive.  I imagine they're using something different now, but the descriptions in the program give a general rundown:
<br> <br>
<i>- Registry tweaks: Performs special tweaks to Window's Registry that speed up menu delays, limit size of the recycle bin, tweak virtual memory, and others.<br>
- Service tweaks: Turns services to "Manual" that are not needed upon boot-up to ensure faster boot times and decrease service memory usage.<br>
- Limit started applications on Boot-up: Turns off applications that HP, Compaq, Sony, and other manufacturers are notorious for allowing to run at start-up.<br>
- Security Patches: Installs the latest patches from Microsoft to increase the stability and security of a Windows XP system.<br>
- BootVis: A tool from Microsoft that increases boot performance.</i>
<br> <br>
Again, I'm sure this is outdated, but you get the idea.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I worked at Best Buy as a computer tech years ago before they changed to Geek Squad .
Yes , the system optimization was a total joke .
I just found a backup of my old " sysop " thumb drive .
I imagine they 're using something different now , but the descriptions in the program give a general rundown : - Registry tweaks : Performs special tweaks to Window 's Registry that speed up menu delays , limit size of the recycle bin , tweak virtual memory , and others .
- Service tweaks : Turns services to " Manual " that are not needed upon boot-up to ensure faster boot times and decrease service memory usage .
- Limit started applications on Boot-up : Turns off applications that HP , Compaq , Sony , and other manufacturers are notorious for allowing to run at start-up .
- Security Patches : Installs the latest patches from Microsoft to increase the stability and security of a Windows XP system .
- BootVis : A tool from Microsoft that increases boot performance .
Again , I 'm sure this is outdated , but you get the idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I worked at Best Buy as a computer tech years ago before they changed to Geek Squad.
Yes, the system optimization was a total joke.
I just found a backup of my old "sysop" thumb drive.
I imagine they're using something different now, but the descriptions in the program give a general rundown:
 
- Registry tweaks: Performs special tweaks to Window's Registry that speed up menu delays, limit size of the recycle bin, tweak virtual memory, and others.
- Service tweaks: Turns services to "Manual" that are not needed upon boot-up to ensure faster boot times and decrease service memory usage.
- Limit started applications on Boot-up: Turns off applications that HP, Compaq, Sony, and other manufacturers are notorious for allowing to run at start-up.
- Security Patches: Installs the latest patches from Microsoft to increase the stability and security of a Windows XP system.
- BootVis: A tool from Microsoft that increases boot performance.
Again, I'm sure this is outdated, but you get the idea.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648566</id>
	<title>Re:System tuning...</title>
	<author>hairyfeet</author>
	<datestamp>1262610060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well I offer my own version of "system tuning" here at my little shop and folks seem to like it enough that I can just get by on referrals now. Of course I found out what I consider the "true secret" to system tuning. The trick is thus: folks do NOT want <em>faster</em>, they want <em>easier</em>. So for $60 I give them a machine that autoupdates, automatically runs defrag and  keeps up with the anti-virus, Auto-updating browser that removes ads automatically (Firefox). Install all the codecs, Flash, Java, etc. Basically I give them a toaster, they flip the switch and go.</p><p>And that I have found is the secret to nirvana for the average Joe or Sally. They don't want to know how it works, or why it does what it does, they just want to flip the switch and go to facebook, Youtube, check their webmail, etc without needing to know jack squat. Hell my GF is always bragging on me to her friends and acts like I'm a computer genius just because I gave her a computer set up this way. She has a limited user account set set up for when her daughter and son in law come to visit, it is set to autoupdate and clean itself while she is at work, all she has to do is log on and enjoy.</p><p>

For home users I've been told my little system is as close to a "perfect computer" as they have ever had. Even the older P4 off lease office machines I sell end up with happy smiling customers because of my little trick. We geeks might like tearing into the guts of the OS and tweaking away, but the average Joe don't want to know about anything like that. Unfortunately Worst Buy is probably just fucking up the machine before handing it over. I have dealt with enough PCs that have been "fixed" by the Geek Squad to know I wouldn't wish those clowns on my worst enemy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well I offer my own version of " system tuning " here at my little shop and folks seem to like it enough that I can just get by on referrals now .
Of course I found out what I consider the " true secret " to system tuning .
The trick is thus : folks do NOT want faster , they want easier .
So for $ 60 I give them a machine that autoupdates , automatically runs defrag and keeps up with the anti-virus , Auto-updating browser that removes ads automatically ( Firefox ) .
Install all the codecs , Flash , Java , etc .
Basically I give them a toaster , they flip the switch and go.And that I have found is the secret to nirvana for the average Joe or Sally .
They do n't want to know how it works , or why it does what it does , they just want to flip the switch and go to facebook , Youtube , check their webmail , etc without needing to know jack squat .
Hell my GF is always bragging on me to her friends and acts like I 'm a computer genius just because I gave her a computer set up this way .
She has a limited user account set set up for when her daughter and son in law come to visit , it is set to autoupdate and clean itself while she is at work , all she has to do is log on and enjoy .
For home users I 've been told my little system is as close to a " perfect computer " as they have ever had .
Even the older P4 off lease office machines I sell end up with happy smiling customers because of my little trick .
We geeks might like tearing into the guts of the OS and tweaking away , but the average Joe do n't want to know about anything like that .
Unfortunately Worst Buy is probably just fucking up the machine before handing it over .
I have dealt with enough PCs that have been " fixed " by the Geek Squad to know I would n't wish those clowns on my worst enemy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well I offer my own version of "system tuning" here at my little shop and folks seem to like it enough that I can just get by on referrals now.
Of course I found out what I consider the "true secret" to system tuning.
The trick is thus: folks do NOT want faster, they want easier.
So for $60 I give them a machine that autoupdates, automatically runs defrag and  keeps up with the anti-virus, Auto-updating browser that removes ads automatically (Firefox).
Install all the codecs, Flash, Java, etc.
Basically I give them a toaster, they flip the switch and go.And that I have found is the secret to nirvana for the average Joe or Sally.
They don't want to know how it works, or why it does what it does, they just want to flip the switch and go to facebook, Youtube, check their webmail, etc without needing to know jack squat.
Hell my GF is always bragging on me to her friends and acts like I'm a computer genius just because I gave her a computer set up this way.
She has a limited user account set set up for when her daughter and son in law come to visit, it is set to autoupdate and clean itself while she is at work, all she has to do is log on and enjoy.
For home users I've been told my little system is as close to a "perfect computer" as they have ever had.
Even the older P4 off lease office machines I sell end up with happy smiling customers because of my little trick.
We geeks might like tearing into the guts of the OS and tweaking away, but the average Joe don't want to know about anything like that.
Unfortunately Worst Buy is probably just fucking up the machine before handing it over.
I have dealt with enough PCs that have been "fixed" by the Geek Squad to know I wouldn't wish those clowns on my worst enemy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646880</id>
	<title>In fairness</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262602500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In fairness, note that most users handing over a laptop to bestbuy for optimization has it loaded down with crapware and a billion start up items, so just deleting all startup items would prolly give the user a 200\% speed boost on startup.  Nothing any goof with Google couldn't do though I'm sure.  What do they say- ignorance is expensive?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In fairness , note that most users handing over a laptop to bestbuy for optimization has it loaded down with crapware and a billion start up items , so just deleting all startup items would prolly give the user a 200 \ % speed boost on startup .
Nothing any goof with Google could n't do though I 'm sure .
What do they say- ignorance is expensive ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In fairness, note that most users handing over a laptop to bestbuy for optimization has it loaded down with crapware and a billion start up items, so just deleting all startup items would prolly give the user a 200\% speed boost on startup.
Nothing any goof with Google couldn't do though I'm sure.
What do they say- ignorance is expensive?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646710</id>
	<title>BestBuy will never be allowed to "optimize"</title>
	<author>thesandbender</author>
	<datestamp>1262601780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>True "optimization" on most newer machines is simply removing the bloatware that infests almost every machine out there.  Technically abilities aside, software vendors will freak if they find out BestBuy is ripping out all the software they paid to have pre-loaded.

I "fixed" three new laptops for family and friends over the holidays and in each case it was faster just to nuke it from orbit and install Windows 7 fresh (and not from the restore partition, which invariably puts all the crap back on there).</htmltext>
<tokenext>True " optimization " on most newer machines is simply removing the bloatware that infests almost every machine out there .
Technically abilities aside , software vendors will freak if they find out BestBuy is ripping out all the software they paid to have pre-loaded .
I " fixed " three new laptops for family and friends over the holidays and in each case it was faster just to nuke it from orbit and install Windows 7 fresh ( and not from the restore partition , which invariably puts all the crap back on there ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True "optimization" on most newer machines is simply removing the bloatware that infests almost every machine out there.
Technically abilities aside, software vendors will freak if they find out BestBuy is ripping out all the software they paid to have pre-loaded.
I "fixed" three new laptops for family and friends over the holidays and in each case it was faster just to nuke it from orbit and install Windows 7 fresh (and not from the restore partition, which invariably puts all the crap back on there).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647530</id>
	<title>Re:Optimized...for....</title>
	<author>Zordak</author>
	<datestamp>1262605140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Ahhh but did they say it was to be optimized for speed? Could it be that they are optimizing your machine for replacement? Optimized for reporting marketing data to best buy? Optimized for suck? Optimized to make other peoples PCs look better?</p></div><p>Optimized for profit, obviously.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ahhh but did they say it was to be optimized for speed ?
Could it be that they are optimizing your machine for replacement ?
Optimized for reporting marketing data to best buy ?
Optimized for suck ?
Optimized to make other peoples PCs look better ? Optimized for profit , obviously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ahhh but did they say it was to be optimized for speed?
Could it be that they are optimizing your machine for replacement?
Optimized for reporting marketing data to best buy?
Optimized for suck?
Optimized to make other peoples PCs look better?Optimized for profit, obviously.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646890</id>
	<title>The crapware wars continue...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262602500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So let me get this straight: the vendors install shitloads of garbage "trial" software, then Best Buy charges EXTRA to remove it? Howsabout just skipping the crap entirely?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So let me get this straight : the vendors install shitloads of garbage " trial " software , then Best Buy charges EXTRA to remove it ?
Howsabout just skipping the crap entirely ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So let me get this straight: the vendors install shitloads of garbage "trial" software, then Best Buy charges EXTRA to remove it?
Howsabout just skipping the crap entirely?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646734</id>
	<title>I'll optimize your new PC for free.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262601900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1)  Download:  <a href="http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/" title="pcdecrapifier.com">http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/</a> [pcdecrapifier.com]<br>2)  Install<br>3)  Run program.</p><p>Hell, I'll even give you free PC optimization months down the road after your PC looses it's new PC smell!</p><p>1)  Download:  <a href="http://www.ccleaner.com/" title="ccleaner.com">http://www.ccleaner.com/</a> [ccleaner.com]<br>2)  Install<br>3)  Run program.</p><p>You're welcome.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Download : http : //www.pcdecrapifier.com/ [ pcdecrapifier.com ] 2 ) Install3 ) Run program.Hell , I 'll even give you free PC optimization months down the road after your PC looses it 's new PC smell ! 1 ) Download : http : //www.ccleaner.com/ [ ccleaner.com ] 2 ) Install3 ) Run program.You 're welcome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1)  Download:  http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/ [pcdecrapifier.com]2)  Install3)  Run program.Hell, I'll even give you free PC optimization months down the road after your PC looses it's new PC smell!1)  Download:  http://www.ccleaner.com/ [ccleaner.com]2)  Install3)  Run program.You're welcome.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647038</id>
	<title>it seems like setup charge</title>
	<author>fermion</author>
	<datestamp>1262603100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Note to defend the practice, but the $40 sounds like a set up fee, which might be practical for some people.  I suspect that many consumers expect the computer to just work when they get it home, and not have to go through installation of software, setting up accounts, trying to figure our which programs are useful and which are advertisement or useless free trials.  While a reputable store might provide these things with purchase, we all know Best Buy is not such a store, and one goes there because one wants the cheapest price.  As such, one should expect a bit of upselling.
<p>
The part of this that is that they advertise one product and them sell the same product at a higher price with mythical work done.  If the work had been done, then one would be given an open box item, which is commonly sold cheaper than a NIB item.  This was not listed, but even if had 'optimization' done I would want to see the factory sealed item first.  Maybe other people are more trusting.
</p><p>
This may be a case where it may be worth a bit of cash for a consumer to walk out with a working computer, rather than just bits the the consumer may or may not be able to figure out.  Sure phone support is free, but that is not good for everything.  Sure one could go to a reputable store and get service, but these people are going to Best Buy.
</p><p>
Just to mention it, the Apple Store will set everything up before you leave with your computer.  I am sure that there are stores that sell PC that will do the same thing.  I double that they have the lowest advertised pice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Note to defend the practice , but the $ 40 sounds like a set up fee , which might be practical for some people .
I suspect that many consumers expect the computer to just work when they get it home , and not have to go through installation of software , setting up accounts , trying to figure our which programs are useful and which are advertisement or useless free trials .
While a reputable store might provide these things with purchase , we all know Best Buy is not such a store , and one goes there because one wants the cheapest price .
As such , one should expect a bit of upselling .
The part of this that is that they advertise one product and them sell the same product at a higher price with mythical work done .
If the work had been done , then one would be given an open box item , which is commonly sold cheaper than a NIB item .
This was not listed , but even if had 'optimization ' done I would want to see the factory sealed item first .
Maybe other people are more trusting .
This may be a case where it may be worth a bit of cash for a consumer to walk out with a working computer , rather than just bits the the consumer may or may not be able to figure out .
Sure phone support is free , but that is not good for everything .
Sure one could go to a reputable store and get service , but these people are going to Best Buy .
Just to mention it , the Apple Store will set everything up before you leave with your computer .
I am sure that there are stores that sell PC that will do the same thing .
I double that they have the lowest advertised pice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Note to defend the practice, but the $40 sounds like a set up fee, which might be practical for some people.
I suspect that many consumers expect the computer to just work when they get it home, and not have to go through installation of software, setting up accounts, trying to figure our which programs are useful and which are advertisement or useless free trials.
While a reputable store might provide these things with purchase, we all know Best Buy is not such a store, and one goes there because one wants the cheapest price.
As such, one should expect a bit of upselling.
The part of this that is that they advertise one product and them sell the same product at a higher price with mythical work done.
If the work had been done, then one would be given an open box item, which is commonly sold cheaper than a NIB item.
This was not listed, but even if had 'optimization' done I would want to see the factory sealed item first.
Maybe other people are more trusting.
This may be a case where it may be worth a bit of cash for a consumer to walk out with a working computer, rather than just bits the the consumer may or may not be able to figure out.
Sure phone support is free, but that is not good for everything.
Sure one could go to a reputable store and get service, but these people are going to Best Buy.
Just to mention it, the Apple Store will set everything up before you leave with your computer.
I am sure that there are stores that sell PC that will do the same thing.
I double that they have the lowest advertised pice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30652386</id>
	<title>Re:Bah</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262682660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I got the 'unoptimised' version, and noticed it had been filled with crapware and dell/bestbuy links that aren't standard.  So, yeah, basically, you're paying them to remove the stuff that THEY've already added.</p></div><p>That's in direct violation of corporate BB policies. Stores do not add anything, it's the manufacturers getting kick-backs from MS, Adobe, and others.</p><p>But by all means, don't let that keep you from lying.... you obviously know how to get modded up here.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I got the 'unoptimised ' version , and noticed it had been filled with crapware and dell/bestbuy links that are n't standard .
So , yeah , basically , you 're paying them to remove the stuff that THEY 've already added.That 's in direct violation of corporate BB policies .
Stores do not add anything , it 's the manufacturers getting kick-backs from MS , Adobe , and others.But by all means , do n't let that keep you from lying.... you obviously know how to get modded up here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got the 'unoptimised' version, and noticed it had been filled with crapware and dell/bestbuy links that aren't standard.
So, yeah, basically, you're paying them to remove the stuff that THEY've already added.That's in direct violation of corporate BB policies.
Stores do not add anything, it's the manufacturers getting kick-backs from MS, Adobe, and others.But by all means, don't let that keep you from lying.... you obviously know how to get modded up here.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30652858</id>
	<title>Best Buy? I don't think so</title>
	<author>Niubi</author>
	<datestamp>1262687580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why anyone still shops in that dreadful shop is beyond me. Personally, I always go to <a href="http://www.dubli.com./" title="www.dubli.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dubli.com./</a> [www.dubli.com] I guess they don't "do" computers, but when they're selling new ones so cheaply I think it's just better to get the latest and greatest anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why anyone still shops in that dreadful shop is beyond me .
Personally , I always go to http : //www.dubli.com./ [ www.dubli.com ] I guess they do n't " do " computers , but when they 're selling new ones so cheaply I think it 's just better to get the latest and greatest anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why anyone still shops in that dreadful shop is beyond me.
Personally, I always go to http://www.dubli.com./ [www.dubli.com] I guess they don't "do" computers, but when they're selling new ones so cheaply I think it's just better to get the latest and greatest anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647218</id>
	<title>The best part of TFA:</title>
	<author>Phyridean</author>
	<datestamp>1262603820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"The operative word here is 'owned,'" Dunn told Fortune.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The operative word here is 'owned, ' " Dunn told Fortune .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The operative word here is 'owned,'" Dunn told Fortune.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30649290</id>
	<title>Bleh.</title>
	<author>Mostly Harmless</author>
	<datestamp>1262613240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>These stories get on my nerves. Best Buy's purpose, as with every business, is to make money. The Geek Squad makes Best Buy money by providing services to people who do not have the same skillset as many here on Slashdot do.

(Disclaimer: I worked at the Geek Squad for a few years after leaving a job as a network tech to afford me the opportunity to return to school.) Now, I'm not going to defend Best Buy/Geek Squad (I left for a reason, after all), but people aren't understanding the point of what the Geek Squad does, and what the Optimization service is.
<br> <br>
The concept of the optimization is to prepare a new computer in such a way that someone with <em>little to no computer experience</em> can take their new machine home and not have to worry about certain things. For example:
<ul> <li>Placing My Computer, My Documents, Internet Explorer and Recycle Bin on the Desktop.</li><li>Disables the shortcuts to enable StickyKeys, FilterKeys and ToggleKeys.</li><li>Disables automatic system restart after a system failure (BSOD).</li><li>Download all current critical Windows updates.</li><li>Uninstall unwanted trial software.</li><li>Disable unnecessary startup items.</li></ul><p>
Now, these might all seem trivial to you, but believe me when I say that way too many people came to the Geek Squad to complain about those exact things not being done. The target here should not be Best Buy, but the manufacturers who do a customer-unfriendly job of preparing new PCs for sale.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These stories get on my nerves .
Best Buy 's purpose , as with every business , is to make money .
The Geek Squad makes Best Buy money by providing services to people who do not have the same skillset as many here on Slashdot do .
( Disclaimer : I worked at the Geek Squad for a few years after leaving a job as a network tech to afford me the opportunity to return to school .
) Now , I 'm not going to defend Best Buy/Geek Squad ( I left for a reason , after all ) , but people are n't understanding the point of what the Geek Squad does , and what the Optimization service is .
The concept of the optimization is to prepare a new computer in such a way that someone with little to no computer experience can take their new machine home and not have to worry about certain things .
For example : Placing My Computer , My Documents , Internet Explorer and Recycle Bin on the Desktop.Disables the shortcuts to enable StickyKeys , FilterKeys and ToggleKeys.Disables automatic system restart after a system failure ( BSOD ) .Download all current critical Windows updates.Uninstall unwanted trial software.Disable unnecessary startup items .
Now , these might all seem trivial to you , but believe me when I say that way too many people came to the Geek Squad to complain about those exact things not being done .
The target here should not be Best Buy , but the manufacturers who do a customer-unfriendly job of preparing new PCs for sale .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These stories get on my nerves.
Best Buy's purpose, as with every business, is to make money.
The Geek Squad makes Best Buy money by providing services to people who do not have the same skillset as many here on Slashdot do.
(Disclaimer: I worked at the Geek Squad for a few years after leaving a job as a network tech to afford me the opportunity to return to school.
) Now, I'm not going to defend Best Buy/Geek Squad (I left for a reason, after all), but people aren't understanding the point of what the Geek Squad does, and what the Optimization service is.
The concept of the optimization is to prepare a new computer in such a way that someone with little to no computer experience can take their new machine home and not have to worry about certain things.
For example:
 Placing My Computer, My Documents, Internet Explorer and Recycle Bin on the Desktop.Disables the shortcuts to enable StickyKeys, FilterKeys and ToggleKeys.Disables automatic system restart after a system failure (BSOD).Download all current critical Windows updates.Uninstall unwanted trial software.Disable unnecessary startup items.
Now, these might all seem trivial to you, but believe me when I say that way too many people came to the Geek Squad to complain about those exact things not being done.
The target here should not be Best Buy, but the manufacturers who do a customer-unfriendly job of preparing new PCs for sale.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648014</id>
	<title>Re:As an advanced user, this does not bother me!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262607360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It reminds me of the salesmen trying to get the buyer to also buy anti-virus/spyware software. These things aren't necessary if you know what you're doing and don't click to see the dancing bunnies. Even if you need AV/spyware, there are free products. Joe consumer doesn't know this, so he gets taken advantage of.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It reminds me of the salesmen trying to get the buyer to also buy anti-virus/spyware software .
These things are n't necessary if you know what you 're doing and do n't click to see the dancing bunnies .
Even if you need AV/spyware , there are free products .
Joe consumer does n't know this , so he gets taken advantage of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It reminds me of the salesmen trying to get the buyer to also buy anti-virus/spyware software.
These things aren't necessary if you know what you're doing and don't click to see the dancing bunnies.
Even if you need AV/spyware, there are free products.
Joe consumer doesn't know this, so he gets taken advantage of.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648850</id>
	<title>Re:Best Buy salesmen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262611200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Buying ANYTHING at Best Buy these days is a chore.</p><p>"No I don't want your optimization plan."<br>"No I don't want an extended warranty."<br>"No I don't want any accessories."<br>"No I don't want the super awesome $50 Monster Cables with gold tips."<br>"No I don't want your PlatinumShield super-dupper service plan."</p><p>What's bad is when you get a salesman who wants to argue with you. "But you need our service plan!!" Sometimes I just want to throttle these guys. If there was another place I could get computer parts and electronics locally (for times when waiting three or four days for Newegg isn't an option) I would never set foot inside their doors. A few weeks ago I had pushy BB salesmen try to sell me a warranty plan on a $20 card reader, for crying out loud.</p></div><p>Those salespeople are required by their employment to ask those things.  If you don't like it complain to Corporate.  Don't blame the salesfolk, blame the company that thinks you need to pay to have a USB Wireless adapter installed by a 'trained professional.'</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Buying ANYTHING at Best Buy these days is a chore .
" No I do n't want your optimization plan .
" " No I do n't want an extended warranty .
" " No I do n't want any accessories .
" " No I do n't want the super awesome $ 50 Monster Cables with gold tips .
" " No I do n't want your PlatinumShield super-dupper service plan .
" What 's bad is when you get a salesman who wants to argue with you .
" But you need our service plan ! !
" Sometimes I just want to throttle these guys .
If there was another place I could get computer parts and electronics locally ( for times when waiting three or four days for Newegg is n't an option ) I would never set foot inside their doors .
A few weeks ago I had pushy BB salesmen try to sell me a warranty plan on a $ 20 card reader , for crying out loud.Those salespeople are required by their employment to ask those things .
If you do n't like it complain to Corporate .
Do n't blame the salesfolk , blame the company that thinks you need to pay to have a USB Wireless adapter installed by a 'trained professional .
'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Buying ANYTHING at Best Buy these days is a chore.
"No I don't want your optimization plan.
""No I don't want an extended warranty.
""No I don't want any accessories.
""No I don't want the super awesome $50 Monster Cables with gold tips.
""No I don't want your PlatinumShield super-dupper service plan.
"What's bad is when you get a salesman who wants to argue with you.
"But you need our service plan!!
" Sometimes I just want to throttle these guys.
If there was another place I could get computer parts and electronics locally (for times when waiting three or four days for Newegg isn't an option) I would never set foot inside their doors.
A few weeks ago I had pushy BB salesmen try to sell me a warranty plan on a $20 card reader, for crying out loud.Those salespeople are required by their employment to ask those things.
If you don't like it complain to Corporate.
Don't blame the salesfolk, blame the company that thinks you need to pay to have a USB Wireless adapter installed by a 'trained professional.
'
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30649224</id>
	<title>doesn't surprise me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262613000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As long as we are sharing best buy stories...</p><p>Be very careful about the prices charged at the store vs. the prices advertised on bestbuy.com.  *Twice* in the past month I have had to go to customer service because the website advertised one price and the cashier tried to charge me another.  Don't walk in that place without checking the website price first...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as we are sharing best buy stories...Be very careful about the prices charged at the store vs. the prices advertised on bestbuy.com .
* Twice * in the past month I have had to go to customer service because the website advertised one price and the cashier tried to charge me another .
Do n't walk in that place without checking the website price first.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as we are sharing best buy stories...Be very careful about the prices charged at the store vs. the prices advertised on bestbuy.com.
*Twice* in the past month I have had to go to customer service because the website advertised one price and the cashier tried to charge me another.
Don't walk in that place without checking the website price first...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647138</id>
	<title>Sounds like their similar service for the 360</title>
	<author>oracleguy01</author>
	<datestamp>1262603460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They have a similar service for the 360 where for $40-ish they will install all the XBox Live updates for you. When they tried to push it on me the salesman insisted that if I didn't get it, it would take about 5 hours for my XBox to update and be able to play games. Which obviously is complete bullshit unless you could only download at like 1KB/sec or something.</p><p>When I got home it took at most 5 minutes for it to download and apply the updates.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They have a similar service for the 360 where for $ 40-ish they will install all the XBox Live updates for you .
When they tried to push it on me the salesman insisted that if I did n't get it , it would take about 5 hours for my XBox to update and be able to play games .
Which obviously is complete bullshit unless you could only download at like 1KB/sec or something.When I got home it took at most 5 minutes for it to download and apply the updates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They have a similar service for the 360 where for $40-ish they will install all the XBox Live updates for you.
When they tried to push it on me the salesman insisted that if I didn't get it, it would take about 5 hours for my XBox to update and be able to play games.
Which obviously is complete bullshit unless you could only download at like 1KB/sec or something.When I got home it took at most 5 minutes for it to download and apply the updates.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647296</id>
	<title>Re:I'll optimize your new PC for free.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262604180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Surprise!  TFA mentioned those.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Surprise !
TFA mentioned those .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surprise!
TFA mentioned those.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648686</id>
	<title>Re:Best Buy salesmen</title>
	<author>1080bogus</author>
	<datestamp>1262610660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"No I don't want the super awesome $50 Monster Cables with gold tips."</p></div><p>Didn't know Monster sold cables that cheap.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/runs to BB</p><p>That's the way it was when I bought my TV from there. I even knew the girl at the customer service desk. It's not the employee's fault though. She said she would get yelled at because I didn't sign up for both their credit cards as well as everything in your list. I told her to tell her bosses to stick that crap where the sun don't shine as I know that's where they make the profit. I'm a cheap bastard anyways.</p><p>I bought my first laptop from there and got the optimization for free because it was the display model (plus discount off the laptop). All they do is create recovery disks for you, reinstall a basic installation of Windows, give you the latest drivers, the general applications (Adobe, Java, etc), and send you on your way.</p><p>I don't even try to convince friends and family not to go there any more because they'll go no matter what I say or how much cheaper it is online. Apparently they know better just like my neighbor telling me Antivirus 2009 is the best and finds more infections than any other AV. I tell them if they go there not to buy anything extra but make the salesperson think you will until right at the end and you have the product at the checkout. It's happened to me (and other people I know) that I told them from the start I didn't need anything extra and somehow the quantity went from 10 to 0 in ten minutes. Go there two hours later (different salesperson) and viola they have stock again. Just play there game til the checkout and you'll get what you need.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" No I do n't want the super awesome $ 50 Monster Cables with gold tips .
" Did n't know Monster sold cables that cheap .
/runs to BBThat 's the way it was when I bought my TV from there .
I even knew the girl at the customer service desk .
It 's not the employee 's fault though .
She said she would get yelled at because I did n't sign up for both their credit cards as well as everything in your list .
I told her to tell her bosses to stick that crap where the sun do n't shine as I know that 's where they make the profit .
I 'm a cheap bastard anyways.I bought my first laptop from there and got the optimization for free because it was the display model ( plus discount off the laptop ) .
All they do is create recovery disks for you , reinstall a basic installation of Windows , give you the latest drivers , the general applications ( Adobe , Java , etc ) , and send you on your way.I do n't even try to convince friends and family not to go there any more because they 'll go no matter what I say or how much cheaper it is online .
Apparently they know better just like my neighbor telling me Antivirus 2009 is the best and finds more infections than any other AV .
I tell them if they go there not to buy anything extra but make the salesperson think you will until right at the end and you have the product at the checkout .
It 's happened to me ( and other people I know ) that I told them from the start I did n't need anything extra and somehow the quantity went from 10 to 0 in ten minutes .
Go there two hours later ( different salesperson ) and viola they have stock again .
Just play there game til the checkout and you 'll get what you need .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"No I don't want the super awesome $50 Monster Cables with gold tips.
"Didn't know Monster sold cables that cheap.
/runs to BBThat's the way it was when I bought my TV from there.
I even knew the girl at the customer service desk.
It's not the employee's fault though.
She said she would get yelled at because I didn't sign up for both their credit cards as well as everything in your list.
I told her to tell her bosses to stick that crap where the sun don't shine as I know that's where they make the profit.
I'm a cheap bastard anyways.I bought my first laptop from there and got the optimization for free because it was the display model (plus discount off the laptop).
All they do is create recovery disks for you, reinstall a basic installation of Windows, give you the latest drivers, the general applications (Adobe, Java, etc), and send you on your way.I don't even try to convince friends and family not to go there any more because they'll go no matter what I say or how much cheaper it is online.
Apparently they know better just like my neighbor telling me Antivirus 2009 is the best and finds more infections than any other AV.
I tell them if they go there not to buy anything extra but make the salesperson think you will until right at the end and you have the product at the checkout.
It's happened to me (and other people I know) that I told them from the start I didn't need anything extra and somehow the quantity went from 10 to 0 in ten minutes.
Go there two hours later (different salesperson) and viola they have stock again.
Just play there game til the checkout and you'll get what you need.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30649650</id>
	<title>Returns</title>
	<author>ThurstonMoore</author>
	<datestamp>1262615160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I bet Best Buy "Optimizes" the computers that are returned so they don't have to sell them as open box.  Not only do they get to sell them as new they even get to tack on forty dollars.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet Best Buy " Optimizes " the computers that are returned so they do n't have to sell them as open box .
Not only do they get to sell them as new they even get to tack on forty dollars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet Best Buy "Optimizes" the computers that are returned so they don't have to sell them as open box.
Not only do they get to sell them as new they even get to tack on forty dollars.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648182</id>
	<title>Re:System tuning...</title>
	<author>GasparGMSwordsman</author>
	<datestamp>1262608440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Recently I tuned my boss's computer.  Prior to any changes it would take over 2 minutes from typing user/password (+enter) to actually being able to run anything.  Afterwards it only took about 50 seconds.  The computer was still bad, but it was LESS bad...</p><p>If you know what you are doing you can really smooth out how a machine (any machine be it computer or not) runs.  The problem is that most people have no clue what they are doing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Recently I tuned my boss 's computer .
Prior to any changes it would take over 2 minutes from typing user/password ( + enter ) to actually being able to run anything .
Afterwards it only took about 50 seconds .
The computer was still bad , but it was LESS bad...If you know what you are doing you can really smooth out how a machine ( any machine be it computer or not ) runs .
The problem is that most people have no clue what they are doing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Recently I tuned my boss's computer.
Prior to any changes it would take over 2 minutes from typing user/password (+enter) to actually being able to run anything.
Afterwards it only took about 50 seconds.
The computer was still bad, but it was LESS bad...If you know what you are doing you can really smooth out how a machine (any machine be it computer or not) runs.
The problem is that most people have no clue what they are doing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648672</id>
	<title>Re:System tuning...</title>
	<author>justinlee37</author>
	<datestamp>1262610540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My computer needed tuning because it was too fast. My quad-core 2.4ghz Phenom processor kept running hot and overheating, causing the computer to reboot. I underclocked it to 2.0ghz using the motherboard BIOS settings and I haven't had any problems with it since.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My computer needed tuning because it was too fast .
My quad-core 2.4ghz Phenom processor kept running hot and overheating , causing the computer to reboot .
I underclocked it to 2.0ghz using the motherboard BIOS settings and I have n't had any problems with it since .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My computer needed tuning because it was too fast.
My quad-core 2.4ghz Phenom processor kept running hot and overheating, causing the computer to reboot.
I underclocked it to 2.0ghz using the motherboard BIOS settings and I haven't had any problems with it since.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648724</id>
	<title>Oh, silly me....</title>
	<author>darkonc</author>
	<datestamp>1262610840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I thought they were installing Linux..
<p>
That's my preferred optimization strategy, and it seems to work a lot more often than Best Buy's.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought they were installing Linux. . That 's my preferred optimization strategy , and it seems to work a lot more often than Best Buy 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought they were installing Linux..

That's my preferred optimization strategy, and it seems to work a lot more often than Best Buy's.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648286</id>
	<title>Wii</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262608860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even worse, I saw in-store advertisements for "wii setup"... They set the clock, create a Mii for you... I think it was about $20.  Total waste!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even worse , I saw in-store advertisements for " wii setup " ... They set the clock , create a Mii for you... I think it was about $ 20 .
Total waste !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even worse, I saw in-store advertisements for "wii setup"... They set the clock, create a Mii for you... I think it was about $20.
Total waste!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647248</id>
	<title>Re:System tuning...</title>
	<author>yurtinus</author>
	<datestamp>1262603940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>While I can't really argue with anything you're saying-- you're missing that most computers come off the shelf with Windows and all the other crapware pre-installed. Reinstalling windows is something you and I can do in our sleep (and I'm sure we both have done just that), but many users can't. This certainly doesn't make "optimization" services worthwhile, it's still just a means of separating people from their money. I worked in a big box tech shop and know how useless a *lot* of these add ons are.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While I ca n't really argue with anything you 're saying-- you 're missing that most computers come off the shelf with Windows and all the other crapware pre-installed .
Reinstalling windows is something you and I can do in our sleep ( and I 'm sure we both have done just that ) , but many users ca n't .
This certainly does n't make " optimization " services worthwhile , it 's still just a means of separating people from their money .
I worked in a big box tech shop and know how useless a * lot * of these add ons are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I can't really argue with anything you're saying-- you're missing that most computers come off the shelf with Windows and all the other crapware pre-installed.
Reinstalling windows is something you and I can do in our sleep (and I'm sure we both have done just that), but many users can't.
This certainly doesn't make "optimization" services worthwhile, it's still just a means of separating people from their money.
I worked in a big box tech shop and know how useless a *lot* of these add ons are.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30650936</id>
	<title>Re:Thanks to the broken US justice system</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262624100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No it doesn't.</p><p>The lawyers will only collect a fraction of the entire settlement(albeit big, not that big).  Remainder of money is generally distributed in a way that is setout by class action certification act. Sometimes even involves donating it to a charity. The key is punishment but at the same time  no unjust enrichment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No it does n't.The lawyers will only collect a fraction of the entire settlement ( albeit big , not that big ) .
Remainder of money is generally distributed in a way that is setout by class action certification act .
Sometimes even involves donating it to a charity .
The key is punishment but at the same time no unjust enrichment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No it doesn't.The lawyers will only collect a fraction of the entire settlement(albeit big, not that big).
Remainder of money is generally distributed in a way that is setout by class action certification act.
Sometimes even involves donating it to a charity.
The key is punishment but at the same time  no unjust enrichment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646940</id>
	<title>Preinstall deals are probably to blame</title>
	<author>CdBee</author>
	<datestamp>1262602740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have never been to a Best Buy (their first stores in my home country open later this year) but if we assume they are like PCWorld, they probably sell PCs with stuff preinstalled and auto-running (IE, the updater for Realplayer which runs at boot)<br> <br>

their agreements with the software companies would prevent the tune-up techies from removing the autostarts like most of us geeks would, so all they can do is delete temp files, update programs to the latest release (therefore, often, bigger files being autostarted) and defrag<br> <br>

PC Sellers have major conflicts of interest between what the support guys would do given free reign, and what marketing and legal require, contractually.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have never been to a Best Buy ( their first stores in my home country open later this year ) but if we assume they are like PCWorld , they probably sell PCs with stuff preinstalled and auto-running ( IE , the updater for Realplayer which runs at boot ) their agreements with the software companies would prevent the tune-up techies from removing the autostarts like most of us geeks would , so all they can do is delete temp files , update programs to the latest release ( therefore , often , bigger files being autostarted ) and defrag PC Sellers have major conflicts of interest between what the support guys would do given free reign , and what marketing and legal require , contractually .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have never been to a Best Buy (their first stores in my home country open later this year) but if we assume they are like PCWorld, they probably sell PCs with stuff preinstalled and auto-running (IE, the updater for Realplayer which runs at boot) 

their agreements with the software companies would prevent the tune-up techies from removing the autostarts like most of us geeks would, so all they can do is delete temp files, update programs to the latest release (therefore, often, bigger files being autostarted) and defrag 

PC Sellers have major conflicts of interest between what the support guys would do given free reign, and what marketing and legal require, contractually.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647222</id>
	<title>Consumerist</title>
	<author>Knara</author>
	<datestamp>1262603880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While I have no doubt the conclusion is sound, it'd be nice if it came from somewhere else than the Consumerist.  I've never seen a more rabid, one-sided, whiny user base outside of Free Republic.
</p><p>Yes, I know they're owned by Consumer Reports.  No, that doesn't make it reputable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While I have no doubt the conclusion is sound , it 'd be nice if it came from somewhere else than the Consumerist .
I 've never seen a more rabid , one-sided , whiny user base outside of Free Republic .
Yes , I know they 're owned by Consumer Reports .
No , that does n't make it reputable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I have no doubt the conclusion is sound, it'd be nice if it came from somewhere else than the Consumerist.
I've never seen a more rabid, one-sided, whiny user base outside of Free Republic.
Yes, I know they're owned by Consumer Reports.
No, that doesn't make it reputable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30652268</id>
	<title>Re:Exciting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262724300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>State Attorneys General</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>State Attorneys General</tokentext>
<sentencetext>State Attorneys General</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30649752</id>
	<title>Re:System tuning...</title>
	<author>ShakaUVM</author>
	<datestamp>1262615820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;If you want to tune it further, try changing your performance settings to "Optimize for best performance" or whatever the equivalent is in Windows 7. It'll look a bit worse, but it may improve performance a little.</p><p>Actually, you'll get a big gain in perceived performance. And perceived performance is performance, is it not? When you disable menus sliding in and out, which is one of the so-called optimizations "best performance" turns on, your menus will appear much quicker than before. If you really feel l33t, you edit the registry to reduce the menu appear delay, and your parents will be amazed at how much "faster" their computer is.</p><p>Aside from a clean install, disabling Aero and reducing to a minimum the number of things that happen at startup is about as optimized as a Windows machine gets. I think Trillian reduces my reboot time (Firefox closing to Google coming up) by almost 30s.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; If you want to tune it further , try changing your performance settings to " Optimize for best performance " or whatever the equivalent is in Windows 7 .
It 'll look a bit worse , but it may improve performance a little.Actually , you 'll get a big gain in perceived performance .
And perceived performance is performance , is it not ?
When you disable menus sliding in and out , which is one of the so-called optimizations " best performance " turns on , your menus will appear much quicker than before .
If you really feel l33t , you edit the registry to reduce the menu appear delay , and your parents will be amazed at how much " faster " their computer is.Aside from a clean install , disabling Aero and reducing to a minimum the number of things that happen at startup is about as optimized as a Windows machine gets .
I think Trillian reduces my reboot time ( Firefox closing to Google coming up ) by almost 30s .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;If you want to tune it further, try changing your performance settings to "Optimize for best performance" or whatever the equivalent is in Windows 7.
It'll look a bit worse, but it may improve performance a little.Actually, you'll get a big gain in perceived performance.
And perceived performance is performance, is it not?
When you disable menus sliding in and out, which is one of the so-called optimizations "best performance" turns on, your menus will appear much quicker than before.
If you really feel l33t, you edit the registry to reduce the menu appear delay, and your parents will be amazed at how much "faster" their computer is.Aside from a clean install, disabling Aero and reducing to a minimum the number of things that happen at startup is about as optimized as a Windows machine gets.
I think Trillian reduces my reboot time (Firefox closing to Google coming up) by almost 30s.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646978</id>
	<title>Re:As someone who worked at Best Buy/Geek Squad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262602860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In other words, you were replaceable by software.</p><p>Seriously, though, I make $40 in about 20 minutes.  It would take me N times that long to DL and run any of the bigger Windows updates. On a new machine that was imaged with a base rev of the OS, there are several of those, interspersed with dozens if not hundreds of smaller ones.</p><p>It'd be worth it to me to get that all done by someone else, and I'd have someone to yell at if it isn't done.</p><p>NB:  I did buy a computer at BB last year.  One of the reasons I got it was that it had already gone through the process (and that particular model was marked down and was relatively cheap for the specs).  They were stocking some units that way as a policy.  I didn't even have to wait for it to be done.  2-GHz dual-core Dell lappy with all the mod cons (except a bulky optical drive) for $650? Sold. Out the door and at home cruising the intarwebs in 20 minutes, with no DIY sysadmin hassles at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In other words , you were replaceable by software.Seriously , though , I make $ 40 in about 20 minutes .
It would take me N times that long to DL and run any of the bigger Windows updates .
On a new machine that was imaged with a base rev of the OS , there are several of those , interspersed with dozens if not hundreds of smaller ones.It 'd be worth it to me to get that all done by someone else , and I 'd have someone to yell at if it is n't done.NB : I did buy a computer at BB last year .
One of the reasons I got it was that it had already gone through the process ( and that particular model was marked down and was relatively cheap for the specs ) .
They were stocking some units that way as a policy .
I did n't even have to wait for it to be done .
2-GHz dual-core Dell lappy with all the mod cons ( except a bulky optical drive ) for $ 650 ?
Sold. Out the door and at home cruising the intarwebs in 20 minutes , with no DIY sysadmin hassles at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In other words, you were replaceable by software.Seriously, though, I make $40 in about 20 minutes.
It would take me N times that long to DL and run any of the bigger Windows updates.
On a new machine that was imaged with a base rev of the OS, there are several of those, interspersed with dozens if not hundreds of smaller ones.It'd be worth it to me to get that all done by someone else, and I'd have someone to yell at if it isn't done.NB:  I did buy a computer at BB last year.
One of the reasons I got it was that it had already gone through the process (and that particular model was marked down and was relatively cheap for the specs).
They were stocking some units that way as a policy.
I didn't even have to wait for it to be done.
2-GHz dual-core Dell lappy with all the mod cons (except a bulky optical drive) for $650?
Sold. Out the door and at home cruising the intarwebs in 20 minutes, with no DIY sysadmin hassles at all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646964</id>
	<title>Re:Stock Windows?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262602860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Students can get Retail Windows 7 (not just upgrade) for $30 for the ISO or I think $35 if you want them to ship you the box.</p><p>Computers don't come with stock OEM windows anymore, the only way to get that is to buy the software and install it yourself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Students can get Retail Windows 7 ( not just upgrade ) for $ 30 for the ISO or I think $ 35 if you want them to ship you the box.Computers do n't come with stock OEM windows anymore , the only way to get that is to buy the software and install it yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Students can get Retail Windows 7 (not just upgrade) for $30 for the ISO or I think $35 if you want them to ship you the box.Computers don't come with stock OEM windows anymore, the only way to get that is to buy the software and install it yourself.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646768</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646794</id>
	<title>Optimize my system</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262602140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CFLAGS="-O9"; emerge -eD world</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CFLAGS = " -O9 " ; emerge -eD world</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CFLAGS="-O9"; emerge -eD world</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30652700</id>
	<title>Re:Thanks to the broken US justice system</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1262686080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>And of course nevermind the fact that you are getting some compensation despite putting in ZERO effort on your own.</i></p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Oh, so it's about effort? I thought it was about right and wrong. I thought attorneys REPRESENTED clients. Now I see it's the other way around. That bumbling, stupid wronged person actually gets in the way of the lawyer and his hard work...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And of course nevermind the fact that you are getting some compensation despite putting in ZERO effort on your own .
      Oh , so it 's about effort ?
I thought it was about right and wrong .
I thought attorneys REPRESENTED clients .
Now I see it 's the other way around .
That bumbling , stupid wronged person actually gets in the way of the lawyer and his hard work.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And of course nevermind the fact that you are getting some compensation despite putting in ZERO effort on your own.
      Oh, so it's about effort?
I thought it was about right and wrong.
I thought attorneys REPRESENTED clients.
Now I see it's the other way around.
That bumbling, stupid wronged person actually gets in the way of the lawyer and his hard work...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648176</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647616</id>
	<title>Are They Out of Their Blooming Minds?</title>
	<author>b4upoo</author>
	<datestamp>1262605620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>      Best Buy is large enough to have tested this product on numerous PCs before letting it off the shelves. I would think that they must have some concern for their reputation. Perhaps this is an example of some fool putting a buddy or family member in charge of a department who is not qualified to go to the toilet without an attendant. This is really, seriously stupid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Best Buy is large enough to have tested this product on numerous PCs before letting it off the shelves .
I would think that they must have some concern for their reputation .
Perhaps this is an example of some fool putting a buddy or family member in charge of a department who is not qualified to go to the toilet without an attendant .
This is really , seriously stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>      Best Buy is large enough to have tested this product on numerous PCs before letting it off the shelves.
I would think that they must have some concern for their reputation.
Perhaps this is an example of some fool putting a buddy or family member in charge of a department who is not qualified to go to the toilet without an attendant.
This is really, seriously stupid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646636</id>
	<title>To be fair...</title>
	<author>mythosaz</author>
	<datestamp>1262601300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...of course this is probably a junk "service," but it's unlikely that the reference PCs were bloated with the sort of crap that they MIGHT be removing in the service.</p><p>Sure, they probably update drivers and "set aside" obvious bloatware, but other than that, they can't do anything -- and your reference PCs are probably least likely to get benefit from that, ahem, service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...of course this is probably a junk " service , " but it 's unlikely that the reference PCs were bloated with the sort of crap that they MIGHT be removing in the service.Sure , they probably update drivers and " set aside " obvious bloatware , but other than that , they ca n't do anything -- and your reference PCs are probably least likely to get benefit from that , ahem , service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...of course this is probably a junk "service," but it's unlikely that the reference PCs were bloated with the sort of crap that they MIGHT be removing in the service.Sure, they probably update drivers and "set aside" obvious bloatware, but other than that, they can't do anything -- and your reference PCs are probably least likely to get benefit from that, ahem, service.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647154</id>
	<title>Re:Who buys a computer from best buy?</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1262603520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Anybody who buys a computer from Best Buy instead of going to Newegg or TigerDirect probably deserves exactly what they get.</i>
<br>
<br>
Is TigerDirect that good?  I would trust Newegg with my newborn (if I had one), but I always got a shady vibe from TigerDirect...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anybody who buys a computer from Best Buy instead of going to Newegg or TigerDirect probably deserves exactly what they get .
Is TigerDirect that good ?
I would trust Newegg with my newborn ( if I had one ) , but I always got a shady vibe from TigerDirect.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anybody who buys a computer from Best Buy instead of going to Newegg or TigerDirect probably deserves exactly what they get.
Is TigerDirect that good?
I would trust Newegg with my newborn (if I had one), but I always got a shady vibe from TigerDirect...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647246</id>
	<title>Smart Money says...</title>
	<author>bmwEnthusiast</author>
	<datestamp>1262603940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Everyone who has read this article already knew that it was scammy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone who has read this article already knew that it was scammy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone who has read this article already knew that it was scammy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647018</id>
	<title>Re:Some good comes of this</title>
	<author>Werthless5</author>
	<datestamp>1262602980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They cleaned up the desktop icons, but they didn't remove any of the programs that created those desktop icons in the first place.  The junk is still there, but now the user doesn't see it.  How is that good?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They cleaned up the desktop icons , but they did n't remove any of the programs that created those desktop icons in the first place .
The junk is still there , but now the user does n't see it .
How is that good ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They cleaned up the desktop icons, but they didn't remove any of the programs that created those desktop icons in the first place.
The junk is still there, but now the user doesn't see it.
How is that good?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648912</id>
	<title>Re:Staples</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262611500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Conscience is a bitch, innit?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Conscience is a bitch , innit ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Conscience is a bitch, innit?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647066</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647524</id>
	<title>Bah</title>
	<author>MrDoh!</author>
	<datestamp>1262605140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Had this happen myself looking at a dell netbook.  I asked why one was more expensive than the other as it looked like a similiar spec.  They said they'd optimised it.   I asked what needed to be optimised on a stock xp install (thinking drivers perhaps updated, nothing that a windows update wouldn't fix) and was then shown task-manager and told to look at all the things running.  I asked 'which service can you disable in that list that isn't needed and will make the system run faster?' and she didn't know.<br>I got the 'unoptimised' version, and noticed it had been filled with crapware and dell/bestbuy links that aren't standard.  So, yeah, basically, you're paying them to remove the stuff that THEY've already added.</p><p>What a ripoff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Had this happen myself looking at a dell netbook .
I asked why one was more expensive than the other as it looked like a similiar spec .
They said they 'd optimised it .
I asked what needed to be optimised on a stock xp install ( thinking drivers perhaps updated , nothing that a windows update would n't fix ) and was then shown task-manager and told to look at all the things running .
I asked 'which service can you disable in that list that is n't needed and will make the system run faster ?
' and she did n't know.I got the 'unoptimised ' version , and noticed it had been filled with crapware and dell/bestbuy links that are n't standard .
So , yeah , basically , you 're paying them to remove the stuff that THEY 've already added.What a ripoff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Had this happen myself looking at a dell netbook.
I asked why one was more expensive than the other as it looked like a similiar spec.
They said they'd optimised it.
I asked what needed to be optimised on a stock xp install (thinking drivers perhaps updated, nothing that a windows update wouldn't fix) and was then shown task-manager and told to look at all the things running.
I asked 'which service can you disable in that list that isn't needed and will make the system run faster?
' and she didn't know.I got the 'unoptimised' version, and noticed it had been filled with crapware and dell/bestbuy links that aren't standard.
So, yeah, basically, you're paying them to remove the stuff that THEY've already added.What a ripoff.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646928</id>
	<title>I'll save you $40</title>
	<author>Taibhsear</author>
	<datestamp>1262602620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Remove programs:<br>Norton<br>McAfee<br>ANYTHING made by Symantec</p><p>Replace with any decent free antivirus. Easily increases performance by a metric fuckton.</p><p>or just uninstall Vista.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Remove programs : NortonMcAfeeANYTHING made by SymantecReplace with any decent free antivirus .
Easily increases performance by a metric fuckton.or just uninstall Vista .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remove programs:NortonMcAfeeANYTHING made by SymantecReplace with any decent free antivirus.
Easily increases performance by a metric fuckton.or just uninstall Vista.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30650138</id>
	<title>Geek Squad still number 1</title>
	<author>gearloos</author>
	<datestamp>1262618220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sure they just didn't know how to run 3dmark- Everyone knows Best Buy has the real experts! Even better than Apple Geniuses I hear... Ho Hum- And to think, I actually went to school to get a degree in this stuff, What a waste of time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure they just did n't know how to run 3dmark- Everyone knows Best Buy has the real experts !
Even better than Apple Geniuses I hear... Ho Hum- And to think , I actually went to school to get a degree in this stuff , What a waste of time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure they just didn't know how to run 3dmark- Everyone knows Best Buy has the real experts!
Even better than Apple Geniuses I hear... Ho Hum- And to think, I actually went to school to get a degree in this stuff, What a waste of time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30650716</id>
	<title>What about their TV Calibration Service?</title>
	<author>MCRocker</author>
	<datestamp>1262622420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They also have a TV calibration service where they send a technician to your house, place an optical sensor with a suction cup on the screen, connect up some calibration equipment to the TV and run a series of tests and claim to optimally configure your TV.</p><p>Most posts I've seen on the topic seem to be woefully uninformed and focus on the setup in the stores that is intended to show the difference between a calibrated and uncalibrated TV, which some reports claim is deceptive.</p><p>I've only seen <a href="http://www.marketingshift.com/2009/1/consumers-question-best-buy-hdtv.cfm" title="marketingshift.com">one post</a> [marketingshift.com] that has a comment that mentions <a href="http://www.imagingscience.com/" title="imagingscience.com">Imaging Science Certification</a> [imagingscience.com] and hints at what they're doing and why it's not something you can do yourself.</p><p>Does anybody out there have any better information on this service?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They also have a TV calibration service where they send a technician to your house , place an optical sensor with a suction cup on the screen , connect up some calibration equipment to the TV and run a series of tests and claim to optimally configure your TV.Most posts I 've seen on the topic seem to be woefully uninformed and focus on the setup in the stores that is intended to show the difference between a calibrated and uncalibrated TV , which some reports claim is deceptive.I 've only seen one post [ marketingshift.com ] that has a comment that mentions Imaging Science Certification [ imagingscience.com ] and hints at what they 're doing and why it 's not something you can do yourself.Does anybody out there have any better information on this service ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They also have a TV calibration service where they send a technician to your house, place an optical sensor with a suction cup on the screen, connect up some calibration equipment to the TV and run a series of tests and claim to optimally configure your TV.Most posts I've seen on the topic seem to be woefully uninformed and focus on the setup in the stores that is intended to show the difference between a calibrated and uncalibrated TV, which some reports claim is deceptive.I've only seen one post [marketingshift.com] that has a comment that mentions Imaging Science Certification [imagingscience.com] and hints at what they're doing and why it's not something you can do yourself.Does anybody out there have any better information on this service?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30649878</id>
	<title>Re:System tuning...</title>
	<author>khellendros1984</author>
	<datestamp>1262616720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It was my understanding that the classic interface in XP uses the same bitmap skinning that the "Fisher Price" one uses. I could be mistaken, of course, but I've really never seen a difference in responsiveness between the two options.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It was my understanding that the classic interface in XP uses the same bitmap skinning that the " Fisher Price " one uses .
I could be mistaken , of course , but I 've really never seen a difference in responsiveness between the two options .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was my understanding that the classic interface in XP uses the same bitmap skinning that the "Fisher Price" one uses.
I could be mistaken, of course, but I've really never seen a difference in responsiveness between the two options.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648944</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30650448</id>
	<title>So how much would you charge?</title>
	<author>NemoinSpace</author>
	<datestamp>1262620200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>to do a 10 mile road trip to your customers house. spend an hour screwin around. (ok so I can do it remotely for 29.00).  Any one of you that will do it cheaper, look me up, I will be glad to let you sub contract for me. <div><p> reminds of the story about the roofer and the itemized bill...</p><p>nail<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.10</p><p>shingle... 2.99 </p><p>knowing where to put the shingle and nail<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... 399.00.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>to do a 10 mile road trip to your customers house .
spend an hour screwin around .
( ok so I can do it remotely for 29.00 ) .
Any one of you that will do it cheaper , look me up , I will be glad to let you sub contract for me .
reminds of the story about the roofer and the itemized bill...nail ... .10shingle... 2.99 knowing where to put the shingle and nail ... 399.00 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to do a 10 mile road trip to your customers house.
spend an hour screwin around.
(ok so I can do it remotely for 29.00).
Any one of you that will do it cheaper, look me up, I will be glad to let you sub contract for me.
reminds of the story about the roofer and the itemized bill...nail ... .10shingle... 2.99 knowing where to put the shingle and nail ... 399.00.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647186</id>
	<title>Re:I'll optimize your new PC for free.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262603700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can also try <a href="http://goodbye-microsoft.com/" title="goodbye-microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">this tool</a> [goodbye-microsoft.com] which works even better.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can also try this tool [ goodbye-microsoft.com ] which works even better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can also try this tool [goodbye-microsoft.com] which works even better.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646734</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30650444</id>
	<title>I used to work at Geek Squad.  Optimization ==</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262620200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unless it has changed significantly in the last year, the Optimization consists of:</p><p>[1] All Windows updates*<br>[2] Registry tweaks<br>[3] Removing un-needed startup items<br>[4] Disabling un-needed services<br>[5] Remove vendor crapware, shortcuts, etc.<br>[6] Defrag the drive (some MFGs don't defrag before imaging)</p><p>*This is the key benefit, as many consumers STILL have dialup (and thus will immediately get poor internet performance as Windows Updates hogs all of the bandwidth) or just refuse to update.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless it has changed significantly in the last year , the Optimization consists of : [ 1 ] All Windows updates * [ 2 ] Registry tweaks [ 3 ] Removing un-needed startup items [ 4 ] Disabling un-needed services [ 5 ] Remove vendor crapware , shortcuts , etc .
[ 6 ] Defrag the drive ( some MFGs do n't defrag before imaging ) * This is the key benefit , as many consumers STILL have dialup ( and thus will immediately get poor internet performance as Windows Updates hogs all of the bandwidth ) or just refuse to update .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless it has changed significantly in the last year, the Optimization consists of:[1] All Windows updates*[2] Registry tweaks[3] Removing un-needed startup items[4] Disabling un-needed services[5] Remove vendor crapware, shortcuts, etc.
[6] Defrag the drive (some MFGs don't defrag before imaging)*This is the key benefit, as many consumers STILL have dialup (and thus will immediately get poor internet performance as Windows Updates hogs all of the bandwidth) or just refuse to update.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648562</id>
	<title>Re:I'll save you $40</title>
	<author>frank\_adrian314159</author>
	<datestamp>1262610000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You do know that Norton is the consumer brand for Symantec, don't you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do know that Norton is the consumer brand for Symantec , do n't you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You do know that Norton is the consumer brand for Symantec, don't you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646928</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647450</id>
	<title>Malware/junk removal</title>
	<author>Bert64</author>
	<datestamp>1262604780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I imagine their service, like many others, simply revolves around removing all the accumulated crap from your system and probably updating your drivers... Basically all the stuff a typical user won't do.<br>By sending them a clean system, you won't see any benefit whatsoever.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I imagine their service , like many others , simply revolves around removing all the accumulated crap from your system and probably updating your drivers... Basically all the stuff a typical user wo n't do.By sending them a clean system , you wo n't see any benefit whatsoever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I imagine their service, like many others, simply revolves around removing all the accumulated crap from your system and probably updating your drivers... Basically all the stuff a typical user won't do.By sending them a clean system, you won't see any benefit whatsoever.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647728</id>
	<title>Past Experience</title>
	<author>cosm</author>
	<datestamp>1262605980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I had the misfortune of working for what was Firedog and also GeekSquad in high school. Both organizations are SALES based, not service. I walked on the job all googly eyed thinking it would be some wiz-bang-pop techno extravanganza, but in reality it is a constant banter from upper management chanting "sell more services", and IMO generally at the cost of quality of information conveyed to the customer. <br> <br>
Their exist a definitive rift between the tech savvy and the cup-holder-cd-tray-croud, but rarely will a mass marketed consumer company be open and fair in its practices, exspecially when they have the upper advantage of capitalizing on the ignorance of many.<br> <br>
I burned all the blue and red shirts once I resigned both post. May the Maths forgive me for my trespasses with those conglomerates.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had the misfortune of working for what was Firedog and also GeekSquad in high school .
Both organizations are SALES based , not service .
I walked on the job all googly eyed thinking it would be some wiz-bang-pop techno extravanganza , but in reality it is a constant banter from upper management chanting " sell more services " , and IMO generally at the cost of quality of information conveyed to the customer .
Their exist a definitive rift between the tech savvy and the cup-holder-cd-tray-croud , but rarely will a mass marketed consumer company be open and fair in its practices , exspecially when they have the upper advantage of capitalizing on the ignorance of many .
I burned all the blue and red shirts once I resigned both post .
May the Maths forgive me for my trespasses with those conglomerates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had the misfortune of working for what was Firedog and also GeekSquad in high school.
Both organizations are SALES based, not service.
I walked on the job all googly eyed thinking it would be some wiz-bang-pop techno extravanganza, but in reality it is a constant banter from upper management chanting "sell more services", and IMO generally at the cost of quality of information conveyed to the customer.
Their exist a definitive rift between the tech savvy and the cup-holder-cd-tray-croud, but rarely will a mass marketed consumer company be open and fair in its practices, exspecially when they have the upper advantage of capitalizing on the ignorance of many.
I burned all the blue and red shirts once I resigned both post.
May the Maths forgive me for my trespasses with those conglomerates.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30649058</id>
	<title>Re:Staples</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262612040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was  a Geek Squad employee for 4 months after getting out of the Air Force in 2007, and I know exactly what you mean. It felt wrong that I would have to check in a computer, have that sit on our bench for longer than the 7 day max [cause we were so busy], only to have the problem to be a 10 min fix, then charge the customer $100+ dollars for all of our "hard" work. Geek Squad pricing was displayed, and if the customers could fix it themselves they would, however I still felt rotten making people pay for it.</p><p>Needless to say, I quit, and am much happier with my professional life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was a Geek Squad employee for 4 months after getting out of the Air Force in 2007 , and I know exactly what you mean .
It felt wrong that I would have to check in a computer , have that sit on our bench for longer than the 7 day max [ cause we were so busy ] , only to have the problem to be a 10 min fix , then charge the customer $ 100 + dollars for all of our " hard " work .
Geek Squad pricing was displayed , and if the customers could fix it themselves they would , however I still felt rotten making people pay for it.Needless to say , I quit , and am much happier with my professional life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was  a Geek Squad employee for 4 months after getting out of the Air Force in 2007, and I know exactly what you mean.
It felt wrong that I would have to check in a computer, have that sit on our bench for longer than the 7 day max [cause we were so busy], only to have the problem to be a 10 min fix, then charge the customer $100+ dollars for all of our "hard" work.
Geek Squad pricing was displayed, and if the customers could fix it themselves they would, however I still felt rotten making people pay for it.Needless to say, I quit, and am much happier with my professional life.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646844</id>
	<title>"sold out" of the "worse" computer</title>
	<author>BlueBoxSW.com</author>
	<datestamp>1262602320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My first question would be if "optimized" pc's are better, why is everyone buying the non-optimized ones?</p><p>Shouldn't it be harder to get the "better" ones?</p><p>I'm always amazed at the shift in their sales ploy after you look like you're going to buy something. It goes from "This is the best on the market" to "this thing is a piece of crap. You better get an extended warranty." Uhm, didn't you just tell me how great this thing was?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My first question would be if " optimized " pc 's are better , why is everyone buying the non-optimized ones ? Should n't it be harder to get the " better " ones ? I 'm always amazed at the shift in their sales ploy after you look like you 're going to buy something .
It goes from " This is the best on the market " to " this thing is a piece of crap .
You better get an extended warranty .
" Uhm , did n't you just tell me how great this thing was ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My first question would be if "optimized" pc's are better, why is everyone buying the non-optimized ones?Shouldn't it be harder to get the "better" ones?I'm always amazed at the shift in their sales ploy after you look like you're going to buy something.
It goes from "This is the best on the market" to "this thing is a piece of crap.
You better get an extended warranty.
" Uhm, didn't you just tell me how great this thing was?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648176</id>
	<title>Re:Thanks to the broken US justice system</title>
	<author>Uberbah</author>
	<datestamp>1262608380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As opposed to the alternative, which is letting Best Buy off scott free for their fraud.  And of course nevermind the fact that you are getting some compensation despite putting in ZERO effort on your own.  Unhappy with the settlement?  Hire your own damn lawyer.</p><p>The asininity of American disdain for unions is only superseded by it's disdain for class action lawsuits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As opposed to the alternative , which is letting Best Buy off scott free for their fraud .
And of course nevermind the fact that you are getting some compensation despite putting in ZERO effort on your own .
Unhappy with the settlement ?
Hire your own damn lawyer.The asininity of American disdain for unions is only superseded by it 's disdain for class action lawsuits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As opposed to the alternative, which is letting Best Buy off scott free for their fraud.
And of course nevermind the fact that you are getting some compensation despite putting in ZERO effort on your own.
Unhappy with the settlement?
Hire your own damn lawyer.The asininity of American disdain for unions is only superseded by it's disdain for class action lawsuits.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647738</id>
	<title>Re:Staples</title>
	<author>JM78</author>
	<datestamp>1262606040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just to play devil's advocate here:
<br> <br>
Ignorance is expensive. Mind-numbingly simple isn't the issue and is in the eye of the beholder (I'm not a physics genius and I'm sure I'm a complete idiot to many). If 'just make it work' is worth $150 to someone then what's the problem?
<br> <br>
Sure, you could say the service COULD be less expensive but the consumer is the one who sets the price in the end. People pay for a perceived value. I wouldn't pay $150 for this kind of service because to me its highway robbery - then again, I'm not ignorant to this issue and can do the work myself.
<br> <br>
As a small business owner I do understand the value of doing business however and the more you know about who, what, when, where or how the less expensive things are.
<br> <br>
On the flip-side - selling a service that does the opposite of what it claims is false advertising and, last time I checked, illegal.
<br> <br>
Just my 2 cents.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just to play devil 's advocate here : Ignorance is expensive .
Mind-numbingly simple is n't the issue and is in the eye of the beholder ( I 'm not a physics genius and I 'm sure I 'm a complete idiot to many ) .
If 'just make it work ' is worth $ 150 to someone then what 's the problem ?
Sure , you could say the service COULD be less expensive but the consumer is the one who sets the price in the end .
People pay for a perceived value .
I would n't pay $ 150 for this kind of service because to me its highway robbery - then again , I 'm not ignorant to this issue and can do the work myself .
As a small business owner I do understand the value of doing business however and the more you know about who , what , when , where or how the less expensive things are .
On the flip-side - selling a service that does the opposite of what it claims is false advertising and , last time I checked , illegal .
Just my 2 cents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just to play devil's advocate here:
 
Ignorance is expensive.
Mind-numbingly simple isn't the issue and is in the eye of the beholder (I'm not a physics genius and I'm sure I'm a complete idiot to many).
If 'just make it work' is worth $150 to someone then what's the problem?
Sure, you could say the service COULD be less expensive but the consumer is the one who sets the price in the end.
People pay for a perceived value.
I wouldn't pay $150 for this kind of service because to me its highway robbery - then again, I'm not ignorant to this issue and can do the work myself.
As a small business owner I do understand the value of doing business however and the more you know about who, what, when, where or how the less expensive things are.
On the flip-side - selling a service that does the opposite of what it claims is false advertising and, last time I checked, illegal.
Just my 2 cents.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30655960</id>
	<title>Re:THIS JUST IN!!!</title>
	<author>pnutjam</author>
	<datestamp>1262711760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You mean G-Force, yeah that was old out around here before x-mas, but I got it at walmart yesterday...</htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean G-Force , yeah that was old out around here before x-mas , but I got it at walmart yesterday.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean G-Force, yeah that was old out around here before x-mas, but I got it at walmart yesterday...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646598</id>
	<title>System tuning...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262601180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can you remember when system tuning was part of the sysadmin's job?  A big part of it?  Then you'll remember how often we got it wrong, before we rediscovered the science of minimum change + measurement of results.  I guess good system tuners are so rare now that people pounce on anyone who claims the skill, and pushes an old trick of the trade out wrapped as high tech.  Fail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you remember when system tuning was part of the sysadmin 's job ?
A big part of it ?
Then you 'll remember how often we got it wrong , before we rediscovered the science of minimum change + measurement of results .
I guess good system tuners are so rare now that people pounce on anyone who claims the skill , and pushes an old trick of the trade out wrapped as high tech .
Fail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you remember when system tuning was part of the sysadmin's job?
A big part of it?
Then you'll remember how often we got it wrong, before we rediscovered the science of minimum change + measurement of results.
I guess good system tuners are so rare now that people pounce on anyone who claims the skill, and pushes an old trick of the trade out wrapped as high tech.
Fail.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30649348</id>
	<title>Re:Who buys a computer from best buy?</title>
	<author>craash420</author>
	<datestamp>1262613480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I refuse to purchase from TigerDirect because of crap customer service.  I ordered a few things and the computer case was caved in; not dented, not dinged, *caved-in*.  Since I ordered through Google (the excuse they gave) they couldn't RMA it, they could only refund the purchase amount.  I went back and forth with customer service because I feel they should have refunded my S&amp;H as well.  Once they made it clear the S&amp;H was not being refunded I said "You can keep the $12, it will be the last of my money you will ever get."  The other items I purchased were a great price and were not damaged, but I'd rather deal with companies that get the whole order right or are willing to do the right thing.  It would have taken them 15 minutes to deal with UPS and make things right, but instead they lost my business and I steer any of my friends away.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I refuse to purchase from TigerDirect because of crap customer service .
I ordered a few things and the computer case was caved in ; not dented , not dinged , * caved-in * .
Since I ordered through Google ( the excuse they gave ) they could n't RMA it , they could only refund the purchase amount .
I went back and forth with customer service because I feel they should have refunded my S&amp;H as well .
Once they made it clear the S&amp;H was not being refunded I said " You can keep the $ 12 , it will be the last of my money you will ever get .
" The other items I purchased were a great price and were not damaged , but I 'd rather deal with companies that get the whole order right or are willing to do the right thing .
It would have taken them 15 minutes to deal with UPS and make things right , but instead they lost my business and I steer any of my friends away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I refuse to purchase from TigerDirect because of crap customer service.
I ordered a few things and the computer case was caved in; not dented, not dinged, *caved-in*.
Since I ordered through Google (the excuse they gave) they couldn't RMA it, they could only refund the purchase amount.
I went back and forth with customer service because I feel they should have refunded my S&amp;H as well.
Once they made it clear the S&amp;H was not being refunded I said "You can keep the $12, it will be the last of my money you will ever get.
"  The other items I purchased were a great price and were not damaged, but I'd rather deal with companies that get the whole order right or are willing to do the right thing.
It would have taken them 15 minutes to deal with UPS and make things right, but instead they lost my business and I steer any of my friends away.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30649722</id>
	<title>Re:System tuning... It works, see inside... apk</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262615640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><div class="quote"><p><b>"Yes, you might also be able to disable some services and squeeze out a couple extra cycles, but how much does it matter these days?"</b> - by nine-times (778537)  on Monday January 04, @05:03PM (#30647024) Homepage</p></div><p>Really? Ok: <b>How about 31++\% differences to the good then</b> (or more in some cases) in scores on benchmarks, as a single example I will put out testimonials of here for then (&amp; from guys that DO know about system tweaking, albeit MORE on the hardware o/c'ing side, until I showed them the "ins &amp; outs" of how it's done OS &amp; software side)?</p><p>E.G.-&gt; Back in mid to late 2006, I used to belong to a heavy "overclockers &amp; tweakers" site, to learn how to 'tweak' my systems' CPU &amp; memory (I knew how to do INTEL stuff, but I had never done AMD before &amp; @ that time I bought an AMD X2 4800+ &amp; needed to know how it was done, so I went there (the person who codes GPU-z owns the site, by the by)):</p><p><b>Folks on BOTH the AquaMark &amp; ScienceMark 2 benchmarks weren't able to move any higher, until I showed them about tuning services, thus</b> (for both the test &amp; less radical services trimming for permanent settings, once they figured out what they needed for daily usage in services, &amp; what they did not):</p><p><a href="http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?s=9982b11a50f22908d624e447d1148ea5&amp;t=16136&amp;highlight=Sciencemark" title="techpowerup.com" rel="nofollow">http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?s=9982b11a50f22908d624e447d1148ea5&amp;t=16136&amp;highlight=Sciencemark</a> [techpowerup.com]</p><p><b>THE RESULTS? Ok, take a read from just 1 of many there</b> (Like 31++\% boosts in scores):</p><p><div class="quote"><p>"Just thinkin<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,b&gt;the first time i ran sciencemark2 i got 1200 points, just goes to show how much fiddling with ram timings and taskmanager helps, a whole 377ish points increase" - from TechPowerUp.com user <b>Mandelore, after tuning out services &amp; background processes for the "ScienceMark 2" benchmark contest -&gt; </b> <a href="http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=140138#post140138" title="techpowerup.com" rel="nofollow">http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=140138#post140138</a> [techpowerup.com]</p> </div><div class="quote"><p><b>"You're much more likely to break something than to effect significant performance improvements."</b> - by nine-times (778537)  on Monday January 04, @05:03PM (#30647024) Homepage</p></div><p>That's a statement from someone who hasn't "done their homework" &amp; read what each service does... because, you can say what you wish &amp; all you like, but... I can show otherwise &amp; have, above.</p><p>By the by:</p><p>I actually wrote the FIRST "Security &amp; Speedup guide" for Windows (1997-2001 -&gt; <a href="http://www.neowin.net/news/main/01/11/29/apk-a-to-z-internet-speedup--security-text" title="neowin.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.neowin.net/news/main/01/11/29/apk-a-to-z-internet-speedup--security-text</a> [neowin.net] for NTCompatible.com (&amp; that's Neowin's "take" on it, an excellent rating no less)...</p><p>AND, which is now carried forward to today &amp; does well here &amp; elsewhere online (mostly on security now though, because that IS the "bigger problem" out here nowadays) to the tune of over 250,000++ views online, being made an "Essential Guide" or "Sticky/Pinned" thread, or "most viewed" or "5/5 star rated" etc. et al on 15/20 forums it is on (Search "HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP" online, &amp; you'll see it "owns" the top spot &amp; top 50-100 in fact) -&gt; <a href="http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=b35dfec0da75d7dab52dab8b321d373e&amp;showtopic=2662" title="tcmagazine.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=b35dfec0da75d7dab52dab8b321d373e&amp;showtopic=2662</a> [tcmagazine.com]</p><p>AND?</p><p>It works... A testimonial of its results also? Here is one:</p><p><a href="http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28430" title="xtremepccentral.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28430</a> [xtremepccentral.com]</p><p><b>PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:</b></p><p>"...recently, months ago when you finally got this guide done, had authorization to try this on simple work station for kids. My client, who paid me an ungodly amount of money to do this, has been PROBLEM FREE FOR MONTHS! I haven't even had a follow up call which is unusual. Now I don't recommend this for the average joe, but it if can work for a kids PC it can work for anything!"</p><p>and</p><p><a href="http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=10f9ba9ad5ff990aaae1e7ec91f593a2&amp;t=28430&amp;page=3" title="xtremepccentral.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=10f9ba9ad5ff990aaae1e7ec91f593a2&amp;t=28430&amp;page=3</a> [xtremepccentral.com]</p><p>"Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008. Great stuff! My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads. APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system local. (except AVG updater, needed system local)"</p><p><b>Thronka - forums member @ xtremepccentral.com</b></p><p>APK</p><p>P.S.=&gt; Services &amp;/or excessive background processes running DO affect performance, no questions asked (especially when you find out that you DO NOT REALLY NEED MANY OF THE DEFAULT SERVICES &amp; MANY BACKGROUNDED TRAYICON APPS + STARTUP GROUP programs constantly running either)...</p><p>Hey - Proof's in the pudding above, after all (&amp; that's only a single account of many that noted the same thing &amp; tried it, because it actually works)... apk</p></div>
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<tokenext>" Yes , you might also be able to disable some services and squeeze out a couple extra cycles , but how much does it matter these days ?
" - by nine-times ( 778537 ) on Monday January 04 , @ 05 : 03PM ( # 30647024 ) HomepageReally ?
Ok : How about 31 + + \ % differences to the good then ( or more in some cases ) in scores on benchmarks , as a single example I will put out testimonials of here for then ( &amp; from guys that DO know about system tweaking , albeit MORE on the hardware o/c'ing side , until I showed them the " ins &amp; outs " of how it 's done OS &amp; software side ) ? E.G.- &gt; Back in mid to late 2006 , I used to belong to a heavy " overclockers &amp; tweakers " site , to learn how to 'tweak ' my systems ' CPU &amp; memory ( I knew how to do INTEL stuff , but I had never done AMD before &amp; @ that time I bought an AMD X2 4800 + &amp; needed to know how it was done , so I went there ( the person who codes GPU-z owns the site , by the by ) ) : Folks on BOTH the AquaMark &amp; ScienceMark 2 benchmarks were n't able to move any higher , until I showed them about tuning services , thus ( for both the test &amp; less radical services trimming for permanent settings , once they figured out what they needed for daily usage in services , &amp; what they did not ) : http : //forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php ? s = 9982b11a50f22908d624e447d1148ea5&amp;t = 16136&amp;highlight = Sciencemark [ techpowerup.com ] THE RESULTS ?
Ok , take a read from just 1 of many there ( Like 31 + + \ % boosts in scores ) : " Just thinkin ,b &gt; the first time i ran sciencemark2 i got 1200 points , just goes to show how much fiddling with ram timings and taskmanager helps , a whole 377ish points increase " - from TechPowerUp.com user Mandelore , after tuning out services &amp; background processes for the " ScienceMark 2 " benchmark contest - &gt; http : //forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php ? p = 140138 # post140138 [ techpowerup.com ] " You 're much more likely to break something than to effect significant performance improvements .
" - by nine-times ( 778537 ) on Monday January 04 , @ 05 : 03PM ( # 30647024 ) HomepageThat 's a statement from someone who has n't " done their homework " &amp; read what each service does... because , you can say what you wish &amp; all you like , but... I can show otherwise &amp; have , above.By the by : I actually wrote the FIRST " Security &amp; Speedup guide " for Windows ( 1997-2001 - &gt; http : //www.neowin.net/news/main/01/11/29/apk-a-to-z-internet-speedup--security-text [ neowin.net ] for NTCompatible.com ( &amp; that 's Neowin 's " take " on it , an excellent rating no less ) ...AND , which is now carried forward to today &amp; does well here &amp; elsewhere online ( mostly on security now though , because that IS the " bigger problem " out here nowadays ) to the tune of over 250,000 + + views online , being made an " Essential Guide " or " Sticky/Pinned " thread , or " most viewed " or " 5/5 star rated " etc .
et al on 15/20 forums it is on ( Search " HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP " online , &amp; you 'll see it " owns " the top spot &amp; top 50-100 in fact ) - &gt; http : //www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php ? s = b35dfec0da75d7dab52dab8b321d373e&amp;showtopic = 2662 [ tcmagazine.com ] AND ? It works... A testimonial of its results also ?
Here is one : http : //www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php ? t = 28430 [ xtremepccentral.com ] PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT : " ...recently , months ago when you finally got this guide done , had authorization to try this on simple work station for kids .
My client , who paid me an ungodly amount of money to do this , has been PROBLEM FREE FOR MONTHS !
I have n't even had a follow up call which is unusual .
Now I do n't recommend this for the average joe , but it if can work for a kids PC it can work for anything !
" andhttp : //www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php ? s = 10f9ba9ad5ff990aaae1e7ec91f593a2&amp;t = 28430&amp;page = 3 [ xtremepccentral.com ] " Its 2009 - still trouble free !
I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration , and he said I was doing overkill .
I told him yes , but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get .
He said good point .
So from 2008 till 2009 .
No speed decreases , its been to a lan party , moved around in a move , and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008 .
Great stuff !
My client STILL Has n't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid .
I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works .
Speaking of which , I need to call her to see if I can get some leads .
APK - I will say it again , the guide is FANTASTIC !
Its made my PC experience much easier .
Sandboxing was great .
Getting my host file updated , setting services to system service , rather than system local .
( except AVG updater , needed system local ) " Thronka - forums member @ xtremepccentral.comAPKP.S. = &gt; Services &amp;/or excessive background processes running DO affect performance , no questions asked ( especially when you find out that you DO NOT REALLY NEED MANY OF THE DEFAULT SERVICES &amp; MANY BACKGROUNDED TRAYICON APPS + STARTUP GROUP programs constantly running either ) ...Hey - Proof 's in the pudding above , after all ( &amp; that 's only a single account of many that noted the same thing &amp; tried it , because it actually works ) ... apk</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Yes, you might also be able to disable some services and squeeze out a couple extra cycles, but how much does it matter these days?
" - by nine-times (778537)  on Monday January 04, @05:03PM (#30647024) HomepageReally?
Ok: How about 31++\% differences to the good then (or more in some cases) in scores on benchmarks, as a single example I will put out testimonials of here for then (&amp; from guys that DO know about system tweaking, albeit MORE on the hardware o/c'ing side, until I showed them the "ins &amp; outs" of how it's done OS &amp; software side)?E.G.-&gt; Back in mid to late 2006, I used to belong to a heavy "overclockers &amp; tweakers" site, to learn how to 'tweak' my systems' CPU &amp; memory (I knew how to do INTEL stuff, but I had never done AMD before &amp; @ that time I bought an AMD X2 4800+ &amp; needed to know how it was done, so I went there (the person who codes GPU-z owns the site, by the by)):Folks on BOTH the AquaMark &amp; ScienceMark 2 benchmarks weren't able to move any higher, until I showed them about tuning services, thus (for both the test &amp; less radical services trimming for permanent settings, once they figured out what they needed for daily usage in services, &amp; what they did not):http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?s=9982b11a50f22908d624e447d1148ea5&amp;t=16136&amp;highlight=Sciencemark [techpowerup.com]THE RESULTS?
Ok, take a read from just 1 of many there (Like 31++\% boosts in scores):"Just thinkin ,b&gt;the first time i ran sciencemark2 i got 1200 points, just goes to show how much fiddling with ram timings and taskmanager helps, a whole 377ish points increase" - from TechPowerUp.com user Mandelore, after tuning out services &amp; background processes for the "ScienceMark 2" benchmark contest -&gt;  http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=140138#post140138 [techpowerup.com] "You're much more likely to break something than to effect significant performance improvements.
" - by nine-times (778537)  on Monday January 04, @05:03PM (#30647024) HomepageThat's a statement from someone who hasn't "done their homework" &amp; read what each service does... because, you can say what you wish &amp; all you like, but... I can show otherwise &amp; have, above.By the by:I actually wrote the FIRST "Security &amp; Speedup guide" for Windows (1997-2001 -&gt; http://www.neowin.net/news/main/01/11/29/apk-a-to-z-internet-speedup--security-text [neowin.net] for NTCompatible.com (&amp; that's Neowin's "take" on it, an excellent rating no less)...AND, which is now carried forward to today &amp; does well here &amp; elsewhere online (mostly on security now though, because that IS the "bigger problem" out here nowadays) to the tune of over 250,000++ views online, being made an "Essential Guide" or "Sticky/Pinned" thread, or "most viewed" or "5/5 star rated" etc.
et al on 15/20 forums it is on (Search "HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP" online, &amp; you'll see it "owns" the top spot &amp; top 50-100 in fact) -&gt; http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=b35dfec0da75d7dab52dab8b321d373e&amp;showtopic=2662 [tcmagazine.com]AND?It works... A testimonial of its results also?
Here is one:http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28430 [xtremepccentral.com]PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:"...recently, months ago when you finally got this guide done, had authorization to try this on simple work station for kids.
My client, who paid me an ungodly amount of money to do this, has been PROBLEM FREE FOR MONTHS!
I haven't even had a follow up call which is unusual.
Now I don't recommend this for the average joe, but it if can work for a kids PC it can work for anything!
"andhttp://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=10f9ba9ad5ff990aaae1e7ec91f593a2&amp;t=28430&amp;page=3 [xtremepccentral.com]"Its 2009 - still trouble free!
I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill.
I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get.
He said good point.
So from 2008 till 2009.
No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008.
Great stuff!
My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid.
I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works.
Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads.
APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC!
Its made my PC experience much easier.
Sandboxing was great.
Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system local.
(except AVG updater, needed system local)"Thronka - forums member @ xtremepccentral.comAPKP.S.=&gt; Services &amp;/or excessive background processes running DO affect performance, no questions asked (especially when you find out that you DO NOT REALLY NEED MANY OF THE DEFAULT SERVICES &amp; MANY BACKGROUNDED TRAYICON APPS + STARTUP GROUP programs constantly running either)...Hey - Proof's in the pudding above, after all (&amp; that's only a single account of many that noted the same thing &amp; tried it, because it actually works)... apk
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	<title>Re:System tuning...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262693400000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Interesting, we offer similar service at our shop!  Yup...give them a system that works for them!  We get about two or three systems a week that come from BB.  The word is out..just buy the computer and bring it to our shop.  Don't let the geeks at BB touch it.</p><p>Easier is exactly what customers want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interesting , we offer similar service at our shop !
Yup...give them a system that works for them !
We get about two or three systems a week that come from BB .
The word is out..just buy the computer and bring it to our shop .
Do n't let the geeks at BB touch it.Easier is exactly what customers want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interesting, we offer similar service at our shop!
Yup...give them a system that works for them!
We get about two or three systems a week that come from BB.
The word is out..just buy the computer and bring it to our shop.
Don't let the geeks at BB touch it.Easier is exactly what customers want.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Best Buy salesmen</title>
	<author>bipbop</author>
	<datestamp>1262712240000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>"Usual random answer"?  Should I take this to mean you made up a number, which may or may not have had a live person at the other end, signing them up to be pestered?  That doesn't strike me as ethical.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Usual random answer " ?
Should I take this to mean you made up a number , which may or may not have had a live person at the other end , signing them up to be pestered ?
That does n't strike me as ethical .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Usual random answer"?
Should I take this to mean you made up a number, which may or may not have had a live person at the other end, signing them up to be pestered?
That doesn't strike me as ethical.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:As an advanced user, this does not bother me!</title>
	<author>kbielefe</author>
	<datestamp>1262606820000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Don't be insulted.  They can't discern your work history by looking at you.  I look at it as an opportunity to have some fun.  Ask questions like which SATA cable will make your MP3s sound better.  The more honest they are, the more likely I am to actually purchase something there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't be insulted .
They ca n't discern your work history by looking at you .
I look at it as an opportunity to have some fun .
Ask questions like which SATA cable will make your MP3s sound better .
The more honest they are , the more likely I am to actually purchase something there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't be insulted.
They can't discern your work history by looking at you.
I look at it as an opportunity to have some fun.
Ask questions like which SATA cable will make your MP3s sound better.
The more honest they are, the more likely I am to actually purchase something there.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Indirectly, there's some justification for this</title>
	<author>Theovon</author>
	<datestamp>1262613780000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Ever been to a mechanic?  Do you know how much they charge for hour?  The one I go to charges $80/hour.  Of course, they do a good job, and as far as I can tell, they don't charge me for more hours than they actually performed labor on my car.  The key point is that they charge $80/hour.  Why?</p><p>- Employee salaries<br>- Management salaries<br>- Owner's cut<br>- Building overhead<br>- Warranty margin (so that at an average failure rate, mistakes don't turn into a net loss)<br>- Profit margin<br>- "Discount" margin (for people who try to dicker the cost down)<br>- Coupon margin<br>- Oil change margin (they make zero profit from oil changes, so they have to make up for it elsewhere)<br>- Oops I screwed up margin (sometimes when a customer is really unhappy, you discount at least the whole labor charge)<br>- Insurance</p><p>They have a business to run.  To do that, they have to charge you for parts and labor.  Otherwise what's the point?  Also, it's a needed service.  People have cars that break, and not everyone knows how to fix their car.</p><p>At a repair shop, however, the technicians have to be licensed.  They're professionals that went to a trade school and passed standardized tests to make sure they have at least a passing knowledge of what they're doing.  Also, many mechanics I've met are enthusiasts who grew up in the field and work on their own cards on their own time.</p><p>Now, let's talk about Best Buy.  They are a business.  They need to make a profit.  They also offer a valuable service, selling and repairing computers.  As with cars, most of the customers are clueless and desperate to have their computer working again.  They also expect to pay high margins for the services, because that's what they observe when they go to mechanics and have appliance repairmen come their houses.  They grumble and go on with their lives.  Meanwhile, Best Buy continues to make a profit and function as a business that employs people and offeres products and services that people demand.</p><p>One difference is that the technicians that Best Buy hires are not trained professionals.  They're people hired off the street, and there is no training program or educational requirement.  There are training materials, but they're not given time on the job to read them.  The employees also make less money than mechanics, yet Best Buy charges more per hour for their services.  They're also desperate to get business, so they offer gimmicks like this "tune-up service".  There's also no liability, and the consumer protection laws that apply are the general ones, none specific to the field, dealing with specific problems that occur in the area.  Thus, they can play on people's ignorance and get away with it.  So, it is unethical and unfair, but the fact is, many people would be SoL were it not for Geek Squad.</p><p>(BTW, if you want to read about one horror story from a Geek Squad employee, check here:  http://consumerist.com/2007/04/insider-secrets-5-ways-best-buy-ruined-geek-squad.html#comments-content)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ever been to a mechanic ?
Do you know how much they charge for hour ?
The one I go to charges $ 80/hour .
Of course , they do a good job , and as far as I can tell , they do n't charge me for more hours than they actually performed labor on my car .
The key point is that they charge $ 80/hour .
Why ? - Employee salaries- Management salaries- Owner 's cut- Building overhead- Warranty margin ( so that at an average failure rate , mistakes do n't turn into a net loss ) - Profit margin- " Discount " margin ( for people who try to dicker the cost down ) - Coupon margin- Oil change margin ( they make zero profit from oil changes , so they have to make up for it elsewhere ) - Oops I screwed up margin ( sometimes when a customer is really unhappy , you discount at least the whole labor charge ) - InsuranceThey have a business to run .
To do that , they have to charge you for parts and labor .
Otherwise what 's the point ?
Also , it 's a needed service .
People have cars that break , and not everyone knows how to fix their car.At a repair shop , however , the technicians have to be licensed .
They 're professionals that went to a trade school and passed standardized tests to make sure they have at least a passing knowledge of what they 're doing .
Also , many mechanics I 've met are enthusiasts who grew up in the field and work on their own cards on their own time.Now , let 's talk about Best Buy .
They are a business .
They need to make a profit .
They also offer a valuable service , selling and repairing computers .
As with cars , most of the customers are clueless and desperate to have their computer working again .
They also expect to pay high margins for the services , because that 's what they observe when they go to mechanics and have appliance repairmen come their houses .
They grumble and go on with their lives .
Meanwhile , Best Buy continues to make a profit and function as a business that employs people and offeres products and services that people demand.One difference is that the technicians that Best Buy hires are not trained professionals .
They 're people hired off the street , and there is no training program or educational requirement .
There are training materials , but they 're not given time on the job to read them .
The employees also make less money than mechanics , yet Best Buy charges more per hour for their services .
They 're also desperate to get business , so they offer gimmicks like this " tune-up service " .
There 's also no liability , and the consumer protection laws that apply are the general ones , none specific to the field , dealing with specific problems that occur in the area .
Thus , they can play on people 's ignorance and get away with it .
So , it is unethical and unfair , but the fact is , many people would be SoL were it not for Geek Squad .
( BTW , if you want to read about one horror story from a Geek Squad employee , check here : http : //consumerist.com/2007/04/insider-secrets-5-ways-best-buy-ruined-geek-squad.html # comments-content )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ever been to a mechanic?
Do you know how much they charge for hour?
The one I go to charges $80/hour.
Of course, they do a good job, and as far as I can tell, they don't charge me for more hours than they actually performed labor on my car.
The key point is that they charge $80/hour.
Why?- Employee salaries- Management salaries- Owner's cut- Building overhead- Warranty margin (so that at an average failure rate, mistakes don't turn into a net loss)- Profit margin- "Discount" margin (for people who try to dicker the cost down)- Coupon margin- Oil change margin (they make zero profit from oil changes, so they have to make up for it elsewhere)- Oops I screwed up margin (sometimes when a customer is really unhappy, you discount at least the whole labor charge)- InsuranceThey have a business to run.
To do that, they have to charge you for parts and labor.
Otherwise what's the point?
Also, it's a needed service.
People have cars that break, and not everyone knows how to fix their car.At a repair shop, however, the technicians have to be licensed.
They're professionals that went to a trade school and passed standardized tests to make sure they have at least a passing knowledge of what they're doing.
Also, many mechanics I've met are enthusiasts who grew up in the field and work on their own cards on their own time.Now, let's talk about Best Buy.
They are a business.
They need to make a profit.
They also offer a valuable service, selling and repairing computers.
As with cars, most of the customers are clueless and desperate to have their computer working again.
They also expect to pay high margins for the services, because that's what they observe when they go to mechanics and have appliance repairmen come their houses.
They grumble and go on with their lives.
Meanwhile, Best Buy continues to make a profit and function as a business that employs people and offeres products and services that people demand.One difference is that the technicians that Best Buy hires are not trained professionals.
They're people hired off the street, and there is no training program or educational requirement.
There are training materials, but they're not given time on the job to read them.
The employees also make less money than mechanics, yet Best Buy charges more per hour for their services.
They're also desperate to get business, so they offer gimmicks like this "tune-up service".
There's also no liability, and the consumer protection laws that apply are the general ones, none specific to the field, dealing with specific problems that occur in the area.
Thus, they can play on people's ignorance and get away with it.
So, it is unethical and unfair, but the fact is, many people would be SoL were it not for Geek Squad.
(BTW, if you want to read about one horror story from a Geek Squad employee, check here:  http://consumerist.com/2007/04/insider-secrets-5-ways-best-buy-ruined-geek-squad.html#comments-content)</sentencetext>
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	<title>I'm pretty sure all that stuff can be scripted.</title>
	<author>aix tom</author>
	<datestamp>1262611680000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Maybe some manager of the Geek Squad did use the "Do what I say or I replace you with a small shell script" on to many employees, so now he bad to actually find a way to charge customers $40 to have a script run.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe some manager of the Geek Squad did use the " Do what I say or I replace you with a small shell script " on to many employees , so now he bad to actually find a way to charge customers $ 40 to have a script run .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe some manager of the Geek Squad did use the "Do what I say or I replace you with a small shell script" on to many employees, so now he bad to actually find a way to charge customers $40 to have a script run.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I'll optimize your new PC for free.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262603100000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>\%s/looses/loses/</htmltext>
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	<title>Re:System tuning...</title>
	<author>desmogod</author>
	<datestamp>1263141180000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>For home users I've been told my little system is as close to a "perfect computer" as they have ever had. Even the older P4 off lease office machines I sell end up with happy smiling customers because of my little trick. We geeks might like tearing into the guts of the OS and tweaking away, but the average Joe don't want to know about anything like that.</p></div><p>Well goddamnit Cletus if your there computer business ain't the best in the whole of the southern states.</p></div>
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<tokenext>For home users I 've been told my little system is as close to a " perfect computer " as they have ever had .
Even the older P4 off lease office machines I sell end up with happy smiling customers because of my little trick .
We geeks might like tearing into the guts of the OS and tweaking away , but the average Joe do n't want to know about anything like that.Well goddamnit Cletus if your there computer business ai n't the best in the whole of the southern states .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For home users I've been told my little system is as close to a "perfect computer" as they have ever had.
Even the older P4 off lease office machines I sell end up with happy smiling customers because of my little trick.
We geeks might like tearing into the guts of the OS and tweaking away, but the average Joe don't want to know about anything like that.Well goddamnit Cletus if your there computer business ain't the best in the whole of the southern states.
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	<title>Anonymouse Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262601600000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I agree, my girlfriends mom took her computer to best buy because it was failing to POST. They debugged it and deemed it unfixable, and turned around and sold her a new computer. She brought the new computer home and set it up, and I took the broken one. I took a look at it, reseated the memory, and poof everything was fine.</p><p>This was 5 years ago, that computer still works fine to this day. Best Buy/Geek squad takes advantage of customers that do any better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree , my girlfriends mom took her computer to best buy because it was failing to POST .
They debugged it and deemed it unfixable , and turned around and sold her a new computer .
She brought the new computer home and set it up , and I took the broken one .
I took a look at it , reseated the memory , and poof everything was fine.This was 5 years ago , that computer still works fine to this day .
Best Buy/Geek squad takes advantage of customers that do any better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree, my girlfriends mom took her computer to best buy because it was failing to POST.
They debugged it and deemed it unfixable, and turned around and sold her a new computer.
She brought the new computer home and set it up, and I took the broken one.
I took a look at it, reseated the memory, and poof everything was fine.This was 5 years ago, that computer still works fine to this day.
Best Buy/Geek squad takes advantage of customers that do any better.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Exciting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262604660000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>We just ordered a PC online for "in store pickup" at Bestbuy.com. It will be interesting to see what they do, seeing as we already have a receipt and it says nothing about any extra services. I want the PC (Core Duo Quad with 8Gigs of ram and a Tb drive) but I almost want them to dick with me as we bought it across state lines and State Attorney Generals (State Attorneys General? States Attorney General?) just LOVE to dick with internet cases.... Still, I do want to walk out with my new box.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We just ordered a PC online for " in store pickup " at Bestbuy.com .
It will be interesting to see what they do , seeing as we already have a receipt and it says nothing about any extra services .
I want the PC ( Core Duo Quad with 8Gigs of ram and a Tb drive ) but I almost want them to dick with me as we bought it across state lines and State Attorney Generals ( State Attorneys General ?
States Attorney General ?
) just LOVE to dick with internet cases.... Still , I do want to walk out with my new box .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We just ordered a PC online for "in store pickup" at Bestbuy.com.
It will be interesting to see what they do, seeing as we already have a receipt and it says nothing about any extra services.
I want the PC (Core Duo Quad with 8Gigs of ram and a Tb drive) but I almost want them to dick with me as we bought it across state lines and State Attorney Generals (State Attorneys General?
States Attorney General?
) just LOVE to dick with internet cases.... Still, I do want to walk out with my new box.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30682908</id>
	<title>Re:Best Buy salesmen</title>
	<author>cbciv</author>
	<datestamp>1262882160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If there was another place I could get computer parts and electronics locally (for times when waiting three or four days for Newegg isn't an option) I would never set foot inside their doors.</p></div><p>That's why I make it a point to buy from my local mom and pop computer shop whenever practical.  I want them to stay in business so that I can stay out of Best Buy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If there was another place I could get computer parts and electronics locally ( for times when waiting three or four days for Newegg is n't an option ) I would never set foot inside their doors.That 's why I make it a point to buy from my local mom and pop computer shop whenever practical .
I want them to stay in business so that I can stay out of Best Buy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there was another place I could get computer parts and electronics locally (for times when waiting three or four days for Newegg isn't an option) I would never set foot inside their doors.That's why I make it a point to buy from my local mom and pop computer shop whenever practical.
I want them to stay in business so that I can stay out of Best Buy.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646802</id>
	<title>Re:As an advanced user, this does not bother me!</title>
	<author>Galactic Dominator</author>
	<datestamp>1262602200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is not about "you".  This is about the consumer which gets scammed into a worse than neutral purchase and someone else gets to clean it up.  That someone is frequently an IT type person doing work for their employers, families, and friends.  So continue to business with an organization known for it's perpetual fraud and know that you're only creating a more problems for youself and your peers, as it's your choice, but after considering to choice to do so maybe you'll understand it's not harmless, nor a net gain for yourself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not about " you " .
This is about the consumer which gets scammed into a worse than neutral purchase and someone else gets to clean it up .
That someone is frequently an IT type person doing work for their employers , families , and friends .
So continue to business with an organization known for it 's perpetual fraud and know that you 're only creating a more problems for youself and your peers , as it 's your choice , but after considering to choice to do so maybe you 'll understand it 's not harmless , nor a net gain for yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not about "you".
This is about the consumer which gets scammed into a worse than neutral purchase and someone else gets to clean it up.
That someone is frequently an IT type person doing work for their employers, families, and friends.
So continue to business with an organization known for it's perpetual fraud and know that you're only creating a more problems for youself and your peers, as it's your choice, but after considering to choice to do so maybe you'll understand it's not harmless, nor a net gain for yourself.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647432</id>
	<title>Re:Who buys a computer from best buy?</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1262604720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Is TigerDirect that good? I would trust Newegg with my newborn (if I had one), but I always got a shady vibe from TigerDirect...</p></div><p>I've never had a problem in years and years of ordering, probably at least five figures total of "stuff" from them.</p><p>Three things to note:</p><p>1) They have (or had) "special rules" for certain products like CPUs, memory, maybe others, and the rules vary over time.  You don't like the rules, don't buy anyway, then complain you don't like the rules.  The "special rules" all seem to vaguely revolve around improper cooling experiments and/or overclocking related misadventures.</p><p>2) They sell stuff, as opposed to being a service company.  If you buy from a local PC integrator, its expected they'll sell you the correct thing and get it working and overall make it right, because they're a service company that happens to sell hardware.  Tiger sells boxes that happen to contain hardware, much like mouser.com yet assembled, so if you buy incompatible hardware (an AMD CPU and an intel MB or some crazy combo) they'll just simply trust you and ship it and give you a moderately hard time if you try to return stuff.  Another interesting maneuver is devices that may or may not work with your OS, which would have been pretty easy to check with a ten second google search before ordering.  Similarly, they currently, or in the past, sold used/reconditioned PCs, VERY prominently marked as such, but you'll still see fools complaining "they shipped me a used PC" and so forth.  They send you exactly what you order, each and every time, even if you're drunk and order something stupid.</p><p>3) Shipping dates all over the map.  Some stuff they drop ship from around the country and you'll get it tomorrow morning, no kidding.  Some weird stuff is shipped apparently on a slow boat from China.  Generally the newer it is, the faster you get it.  The good news is they have many warehouses, so you could get stuff extremely quickly.  The bad news is they have many warehouses, so depending on the pony express, it could take awhile.  Everything online is simply marked as "in-stock" of course, which is technically true...</p><p>Overall, I enjoy buying from them about as much as it sounds like you enjoy buying from the 'egg.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is TigerDirect that good ?
I would trust Newegg with my newborn ( if I had one ) , but I always got a shady vibe from TigerDirect...I 've never had a problem in years and years of ordering , probably at least five figures total of " stuff " from them.Three things to note : 1 ) They have ( or had ) " special rules " for certain products like CPUs , memory , maybe others , and the rules vary over time .
You do n't like the rules , do n't buy anyway , then complain you do n't like the rules .
The " special rules " all seem to vaguely revolve around improper cooling experiments and/or overclocking related misadventures.2 ) They sell stuff , as opposed to being a service company .
If you buy from a local PC integrator , its expected they 'll sell you the correct thing and get it working and overall make it right , because they 're a service company that happens to sell hardware .
Tiger sells boxes that happen to contain hardware , much like mouser.com yet assembled , so if you buy incompatible hardware ( an AMD CPU and an intel MB or some crazy combo ) they 'll just simply trust you and ship it and give you a moderately hard time if you try to return stuff .
Another interesting maneuver is devices that may or may not work with your OS , which would have been pretty easy to check with a ten second google search before ordering .
Similarly , they currently , or in the past , sold used/reconditioned PCs , VERY prominently marked as such , but you 'll still see fools complaining " they shipped me a used PC " and so forth .
They send you exactly what you order , each and every time , even if you 're drunk and order something stupid.3 ) Shipping dates all over the map .
Some stuff they drop ship from around the country and you 'll get it tomorrow morning , no kidding .
Some weird stuff is shipped apparently on a slow boat from China .
Generally the newer it is , the faster you get it .
The good news is they have many warehouses , so you could get stuff extremely quickly .
The bad news is they have many warehouses , so depending on the pony express , it could take awhile .
Everything online is simply marked as " in-stock " of course , which is technically true...Overall , I enjoy buying from them about as much as it sounds like you enjoy buying from the 'egg .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is TigerDirect that good?
I would trust Newegg with my newborn (if I had one), but I always got a shady vibe from TigerDirect...I've never had a problem in years and years of ordering, probably at least five figures total of "stuff" from them.Three things to note:1) They have (or had) "special rules" for certain products like CPUs, memory, maybe others, and the rules vary over time.
You don't like the rules, don't buy anyway, then complain you don't like the rules.
The "special rules" all seem to vaguely revolve around improper cooling experiments and/or overclocking related misadventures.2) They sell stuff, as opposed to being a service company.
If you buy from a local PC integrator, its expected they'll sell you the correct thing and get it working and overall make it right, because they're a service company that happens to sell hardware.
Tiger sells boxes that happen to contain hardware, much like mouser.com yet assembled, so if you buy incompatible hardware (an AMD CPU and an intel MB or some crazy combo) they'll just simply trust you and ship it and give you a moderately hard time if you try to return stuff.
Another interesting maneuver is devices that may or may not work with your OS, which would have been pretty easy to check with a ten second google search before ordering.
Similarly, they currently, or in the past, sold used/reconditioned PCs, VERY prominently marked as such, but you'll still see fools complaining "they shipped me a used PC" and so forth.
They send you exactly what you order, each and every time, even if you're drunk and order something stupid.3) Shipping dates all over the map.
Some stuff they drop ship from around the country and you'll get it tomorrow morning, no kidding.
Some weird stuff is shipped apparently on a slow boat from China.
Generally the newer it is, the faster you get it.
The good news is they have many warehouses, so you could get stuff extremely quickly.
The bad news is they have many warehouses, so depending on the pony express, it could take awhile.
Everything online is simply marked as "in-stock" of course, which is technically true...Overall, I enjoy buying from them about as much as it sounds like you enjoy buying from the 'egg.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30650014</id>
	<title>Re:Some good comes of this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262617500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most manufacturers are paid to include trials for certain software on their machines - if a retailer deleted those, the manufacturers wouldn't be able to honour their deals with the software companies and would likely have to stop supplying the retailer (or convince the retailer to leave it alone). This seems to me to be a pretty good compromise for someone in Best Buy's position - charging $40 for something that can be (and is) done by a few scripts seems a bit insane, though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most manufacturers are paid to include trials for certain software on their machines - if a retailer deleted those , the manufacturers would n't be able to honour their deals with the software companies and would likely have to stop supplying the retailer ( or convince the retailer to leave it alone ) .
This seems to me to be a pretty good compromise for someone in Best Buy 's position - charging $ 40 for something that can be ( and is ) done by a few scripts seems a bit insane , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most manufacturers are paid to include trials for certain software on their machines - if a retailer deleted those, the manufacturers wouldn't be able to honour their deals with the software companies and would likely have to stop supplying the retailer (or convince the retailer to leave it alone).
This seems to me to be a pretty good compromise for someone in Best Buy's position - charging $40 for something that can be (and is) done by a few scripts seems a bit insane, though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648636</id>
	<title>Computer vendors and Best Buy are both guilty</title>
	<author>zerofoo</author>
	<datestamp>1262610360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought a $450 HP laptop for a family member this Christmas,  The hardware was pretty nice for the money, but the system image HP put on the machine was appalling.</p><p>First - it's loaded with garbage, support links, trial versions, and a taskbar that has so much junk running, that fills half the width of the display.</p><p>Second - no recovery discs, or operating system installation discs what so ever.  You need to "make" the discs from a supplied utility and a utility partition.</p><p>Hours later I had "de-crapified" the machine and burned her system recovery discs.  After enduring that process, I can see how someone might want to pay to have this done.</p><p>What is pretty underhanded is that Best Buy appears to have no inventory that would give a buyer the ability to "opt-out" of their offering.</p><p>Apple seems to be the only major computer manufacturer that doesn't load up their systems with garbage, and they give you real OS installation discs, not system recovery discs.</p><p>-ted</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought a $ 450 HP laptop for a family member this Christmas , The hardware was pretty nice for the money , but the system image HP put on the machine was appalling.First - it 's loaded with garbage , support links , trial versions , and a taskbar that has so much junk running , that fills half the width of the display.Second - no recovery discs , or operating system installation discs what so ever .
You need to " make " the discs from a supplied utility and a utility partition.Hours later I had " de-crapified " the machine and burned her system recovery discs .
After enduring that process , I can see how someone might want to pay to have this done.What is pretty underhanded is that Best Buy appears to have no inventory that would give a buyer the ability to " opt-out " of their offering.Apple seems to be the only major computer manufacturer that does n't load up their systems with garbage , and they give you real OS installation discs , not system recovery discs.-ted</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought a $450 HP laptop for a family member this Christmas,  The hardware was pretty nice for the money, but the system image HP put on the machine was appalling.First - it's loaded with garbage, support links, trial versions, and a taskbar that has so much junk running, that fills half the width of the display.Second - no recovery discs, or operating system installation discs what so ever.
You need to "make" the discs from a supplied utility and a utility partition.Hours later I had "de-crapified" the machine and burned her system recovery discs.
After enduring that process, I can see how someone might want to pay to have this done.What is pretty underhanded is that Best Buy appears to have no inventory that would give a buyer the ability to "opt-out" of their offering.Apple seems to be the only major computer manufacturer that doesn't load up their systems with garbage, and they give you real OS installation discs, not system recovery discs.-ted</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648374</id>
	<title>Re:Stock Windows?</title>
	<author>LordLimecat</author>
	<datestamp>1262609160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Its not retail.  Its upgrade.  Try nuking your partition table from linux, and then installing and activating that student copy-- it will never activate because it wasnt an upgrade.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its not retail .
Its upgrade .
Try nuking your partition table from linux , and then installing and activating that student copy-- it will never activate because it wasnt an upgrade .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its not retail.
Its upgrade.
Try nuking your partition table from linux, and then installing and activating that student copy-- it will never activate because it wasnt an upgrade.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647468</id>
	<title>Re:Who buys a computer from best buy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262604840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TigerDirect is a competent order processor -- they usually ship the item you ordered in a reasonable amount of time. So if you can be confident that you're ordering what you want they are acceptable.</p><p>Where they fail is accurately describing the items they're selling, the available rebates, the condition of the item, etc. I'm pretty sure their marketing department just makes up product pages and then someone goes in later and tries to match those up with the actual inventory. And god help you if you want to return something for a refund.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TigerDirect is a competent order processor -- they usually ship the item you ordered in a reasonable amount of time .
So if you can be confident that you 're ordering what you want they are acceptable.Where they fail is accurately describing the items they 're selling , the available rebates , the condition of the item , etc .
I 'm pretty sure their marketing department just makes up product pages and then someone goes in later and tries to match those up with the actual inventory .
And god help you if you want to return something for a refund .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TigerDirect is a competent order processor -- they usually ship the item you ordered in a reasonable amount of time.
So if you can be confident that you're ordering what you want they are acceptable.Where they fail is accurately describing the items they're selling, the available rebates, the condition of the item, etc.
I'm pretty sure their marketing department just makes up product pages and then someone goes in later and tries to match those up with the actual inventory.
And god help you if you want to return something for a refund.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647456</id>
	<title>Geek Squad is a shop for tools...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262604840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I still remember back in the day when Geek Squad first appeared in Best Buys.  My brother asks one of the "geeks" could point him to a decent PCI-E video card.  They promptly pointed him to an AGP card.  When both my brother and I explained that we were looking for PCI-E, and NOT AGP, the "geek" turned to us and said, "That's ok, they both fit in the same slot".</p><p>Seriously????</p><p>This is one of many stories I have heard/been around for when dealing with BB and the Tard Squad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still remember back in the day when Geek Squad first appeared in Best Buys .
My brother asks one of the " geeks " could point him to a decent PCI-E video card .
They promptly pointed him to an AGP card .
When both my brother and I explained that we were looking for PCI-E , and NOT AGP , the " geek " turned to us and said , " That 's ok , they both fit in the same slot " .Seriously ? ? ?
? This is one of many stories I have heard/been around for when dealing with BB and the Tard Squad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still remember back in the day when Geek Squad first appeared in Best Buys.
My brother asks one of the "geeks" could point him to a decent PCI-E video card.
They promptly pointed him to an AGP card.
When both my brother and I explained that we were looking for PCI-E, and NOT AGP, the "geek" turned to us and said, "That's ok, they both fit in the same slot".Seriously???
?This is one of many stories I have heard/been around for when dealing with BB and the Tard Squad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646882</id>
	<title>You can't trick me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262602500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Haha... someone bought a computer from Best Buy.  hahaha.<br>You can't trick me, I buy all of my computers from the Apple Store.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Haha... someone bought a computer from Best Buy .
hahaha.You ca n't trick me , I buy all of my computers from the Apple Store .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Haha... someone bought a computer from Best Buy.
hahaha.You can't trick me, I buy all of my computers from the Apple Store.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646632</id>
	<title>Is it surprising?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262601300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really, all these services designed to do what, exactly? You've just added two more processes to my current roster of whatever is installed and allowed to boot on startup.</p><p>I've been saying that since BB acquired the Geek Squad, it has become a sham, a scam, and I'm quite sure a violation of many privacy laws.</p><p>Sadly, they have my laptop (or actually, it has them) and I'm waiting for it to get totally replaced. Enough hardware failed enough times that it should warrant them just giving me a new machine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really , all these services designed to do what , exactly ?
You 've just added two more processes to my current roster of whatever is installed and allowed to boot on startup.I 've been saying that since BB acquired the Geek Squad , it has become a sham , a scam , and I 'm quite sure a violation of many privacy laws.Sadly , they have my laptop ( or actually , it has them ) and I 'm waiting for it to get totally replaced .
Enough hardware failed enough times that it should warrant them just giving me a new machine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really, all these services designed to do what, exactly?
You've just added two more processes to my current roster of whatever is installed and allowed to boot on startup.I've been saying that since BB acquired the Geek Squad, it has become a sham, a scam, and I'm quite sure a violation of many privacy laws.Sadly, they have my laptop (or actually, it has them) and I'm waiting for it to get totally replaced.
Enough hardware failed enough times that it should warrant them just giving me a new machine.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647150</id>
	<title>Re:Anonymouse Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262603520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a random personal question<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:</p><p>Are you with the same girlfriend after all those years (17\% percent of my life seems long) ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a random personal question : Are you with the same girlfriend after all those years ( 17 \ % percent of my life seems long ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a random personal question :Are you with the same girlfriend after all those years (17\% percent of my life seems long) ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30650410</id>
	<title>No such thing as "optimization"</title>
	<author>Evilclicker</author>
	<datestamp>1262619900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can't make a crap computer better by "optimizing" it.  The best "optimization" in the world can only have minimal results on start up time of the system, it doesn't typically affect how fast or slow the system runs once it's turned on (unless it has 256M of RAM and you remove all of the start-up apps).

Here's how you "optimize" your computer:

-Get a random dual core proc (speed doesn't really matter)
-Upgrade your RAM to at least 4G (This is 2010 for God sakes 4G is a bare minimum at this point).
-Get a "cheap" SSD (for those that have never had one, you will be amazed at the difference).</htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't make a crap computer better by " optimizing " it .
The best " optimization " in the world can only have minimal results on start up time of the system , it does n't typically affect how fast or slow the system runs once it 's turned on ( unless it has 256M of RAM and you remove all of the start-up apps ) .
Here 's how you " optimize " your computer : -Get a random dual core proc ( speed does n't really matter ) -Upgrade your RAM to at least 4G ( This is 2010 for God sakes 4G is a bare minimum at this point ) .
-Get a " cheap " SSD ( for those that have never had one , you will be amazed at the difference ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't make a crap computer better by "optimizing" it.
The best "optimization" in the world can only have minimal results on start up time of the system, it doesn't typically affect how fast or slow the system runs once it's turned on (unless it has 256M of RAM and you remove all of the start-up apps).
Here's how you "optimize" your computer:

-Get a random dual core proc (speed doesn't really matter)
-Upgrade your RAM to at least 4G (This is 2010 for God sakes 4G is a bare minimum at this point).
-Get a "cheap" SSD (for those that have never had one, you will be amazed at the difference).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646900</id>
	<title>Re:System tuning...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262602500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The easy way. uninstall AV..Check. Turn off FW..Check. regedit the registery so puter don't bitch about lack of AV &amp; FW turned off. Hand the dipshit his puter back and pocket $40.00.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The easy way .
uninstall AV..Check .
Turn off FW..Check .
regedit the registery so puter do n't bitch about lack of AV &amp; FW turned off .
Hand the dipshit his puter back and pocket $ 40.00 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The easy way.
uninstall AV..Check.
Turn off FW..Check.
regedit the registery so puter don't bitch about lack of AV &amp; FW turned off.
Hand the dipshit his puter back and pocket $40.00.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646756</id>
	<title>As someone who worked at Best Buy/Geek Squad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262601960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can confirm that the optimization consists of:</p><p>1) Running some registry tweaks/fixes<br>2) Get the latest Windows updates (unless we were backlogged with a lot of work, in which case we'd skip it)<br>3) Uninstall unnecessary programs (usually only at the customer's request)</p><p>All of this was automated through an in-house "Customizer" program. So the optimization consisted of turning the computer on, hooking it up to the network, and running the program.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can confirm that the optimization consists of : 1 ) Running some registry tweaks/fixes2 ) Get the latest Windows updates ( unless we were backlogged with a lot of work , in which case we 'd skip it ) 3 ) Uninstall unnecessary programs ( usually only at the customer 's request ) All of this was automated through an in-house " Customizer " program .
So the optimization consisted of turning the computer on , hooking it up to the network , and running the program .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can confirm that the optimization consists of:1) Running some registry tweaks/fixes2) Get the latest Windows updates (unless we were backlogged with a lot of work, in which case we'd skip it)3) Uninstall unnecessary programs (usually only at the customer's request)All of this was automated through an in-house "Customizer" program.
So the optimization consisted of turning the computer on, hooking it up to the network, and running the program.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646578</id>
	<title>Friends</title>
	<author>Khris</author>
	<datestamp>1262601060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Friends don't let friends take their computers to Best Buy!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Friends do n't let friends take their computers to Best Buy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Friends don't let friends take their computers to Best Buy!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647012</id>
	<title>THIS JUST IN!!!</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1262602980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Best Buy a waste of money!</p><p>G-Spot hard to find!</p><p>Something else you already knew!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Best Buy a waste of money ! G-Spot hard to find ! Something else you already knew !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Best Buy a waste of money!G-Spot hard to find!Something else you already knew!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647818</id>
	<title>Geek Squad (CIA)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262606460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hello!</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; My name is Daryl and I work as a (CIA)Counter Inteligence Agent (Get it?) for a Geek Squad location in Texas. I would like to clarify any ill-informed notions posted on this forum. Our Optimization Service (or opti) is a service we perform for customers who just want to take their computer home and have it ready to plug in/turn on as soon as they get it in the door. Our Service consists of:</p><p>1) Agent Tweaks: We perform tweaks to the computer to allow it to boot up quicker while removing trials of software you may not want such as (Google Desktop).<br>2) Windows Critical Update: We perform critical updates that would normally take 3-4 hours to do and we perform that in easily half the time or less.<br>3) Regular Maintenance: Misc things like Defragmentation etc.</p><p>Beleive me when i say there is value to the service, especially to those who are not as computer savvy as the majority of you all. Its especially good for someone who's time is valuable. Besides a service is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, and as people come to us everyday for their everyday computer needs, i doubt that we are scamming anyone. I hope this has enlightened some of you, and that you will consider our services in the future. Thank you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hello !
                My name is Daryl and I work as a ( CIA ) Counter Inteligence Agent ( Get it ?
) for a Geek Squad location in Texas .
I would like to clarify any ill-informed notions posted on this forum .
Our Optimization Service ( or opti ) is a service we perform for customers who just want to take their computer home and have it ready to plug in/turn on as soon as they get it in the door .
Our Service consists of : 1 ) Agent Tweaks : We perform tweaks to the computer to allow it to boot up quicker while removing trials of software you may not want such as ( Google Desktop ) .2 ) Windows Critical Update : We perform critical updates that would normally take 3-4 hours to do and we perform that in easily half the time or less.3 ) Regular Maintenance : Misc things like Defragmentation etc.Beleive me when i say there is value to the service , especially to those who are not as computer savvy as the majority of you all .
Its especially good for someone who 's time is valuable .
Besides a service is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it , and as people come to us everyday for their everyday computer needs , i doubt that we are scamming anyone .
I hope this has enlightened some of you , and that you will consider our services in the future .
Thank you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hello!
                My name is Daryl and I work as a (CIA)Counter Inteligence Agent (Get it?
) for a Geek Squad location in Texas.
I would like to clarify any ill-informed notions posted on this forum.
Our Optimization Service (or opti) is a service we perform for customers who just want to take their computer home and have it ready to plug in/turn on as soon as they get it in the door.
Our Service consists of:1) Agent Tweaks: We perform tweaks to the computer to allow it to boot up quicker while removing trials of software you may not want such as (Google Desktop).2) Windows Critical Update: We perform critical updates that would normally take 3-4 hours to do and we perform that in easily half the time or less.3) Regular Maintenance: Misc things like Defragmentation etc.Beleive me when i say there is value to the service, especially to those who are not as computer savvy as the majority of you all.
Its especially good for someone who's time is valuable.
Besides a service is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, and as people come to us everyday for their everyday computer needs, i doubt that we are scamming anyone.
I hope this has enlightened some of you, and that you will consider our services in the future.
Thank you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30668650</id>
	<title>This is a gold mine</title>
	<author>Hazelfield</author>
	<datestamp>1262788500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Many, MANY people are irritated because they think their computers run to slow (and they're probably right). This can be verified by looking at the headlines of the tabloids whenever nothing of interest has happened in the world: Make your PC FASTER in 10 MINUTES! The articles usually contain tips such as "close the Vista sidebar", "remove spyware programs", "update your drivers" and "defragment the drive". I suppose sometimes it even works, if you're not computer-savvy enough to do those things already.<br> <br>

Thing is, those articles show there's a demand. Making software that supposedly makes the computer faster is very smart business indeed. See it as the modern equivalent of snake oil salesmen and astrologers. Very few people are likely to complain - if you don't know enough about computers to recognize adware, you definitely won't install benchmarking software to test your computer's performance. A computer to them is as opaque and unintelligible as the human body must have been to the people of old who bought medicines that didn't work. Sadly, there's STILL a market for such medicines, astrology is still alive and kicking, and the computer speedup salesmen will probably be around for a long time. <br> <br>

As long as people are ignorant, they're going to be ripped off.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Many , MANY people are irritated because they think their computers run to slow ( and they 're probably right ) .
This can be verified by looking at the headlines of the tabloids whenever nothing of interest has happened in the world : Make your PC FASTER in 10 MINUTES !
The articles usually contain tips such as " close the Vista sidebar " , " remove spyware programs " , " update your drivers " and " defragment the drive " .
I suppose sometimes it even works , if you 're not computer-savvy enough to do those things already .
Thing is , those articles show there 's a demand .
Making software that supposedly makes the computer faster is very smart business indeed .
See it as the modern equivalent of snake oil salesmen and astrologers .
Very few people are likely to complain - if you do n't know enough about computers to recognize adware , you definitely wo n't install benchmarking software to test your computer 's performance .
A computer to them is as opaque and unintelligible as the human body must have been to the people of old who bought medicines that did n't work .
Sadly , there 's STILL a market for such medicines , astrology is still alive and kicking , and the computer speedup salesmen will probably be around for a long time .
As long as people are ignorant , they 're going to be ripped off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many, MANY people are irritated because they think their computers run to slow (and they're probably right).
This can be verified by looking at the headlines of the tabloids whenever nothing of interest has happened in the world: Make your PC FASTER in 10 MINUTES!
The articles usually contain tips such as "close the Vista sidebar", "remove spyware programs", "update your drivers" and "defragment the drive".
I suppose sometimes it even works, if you're not computer-savvy enough to do those things already.
Thing is, those articles show there's a demand.
Making software that supposedly makes the computer faster is very smart business indeed.
See it as the modern equivalent of snake oil salesmen and astrologers.
Very few people are likely to complain - if you don't know enough about computers to recognize adware, you definitely won't install benchmarking software to test your computer's performance.
A computer to them is as opaque and unintelligible as the human body must have been to the people of old who bought medicines that didn't work.
Sadly, there's STILL a market for such medicines, astrology is still alive and kicking, and the computer speedup salesmen will probably be around for a long time.
As long as people are ignorant, they're going to be ripped off.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648116</id>
	<title>Re:BestBuy will never be allowed to "optimize"</title>
	<author>LordLimecat</author>
	<datestamp>1262607960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You could just keep a copy of the OEM ISO and use that, you know....
Pretty sure they work on all OEMs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You could just keep a copy of the OEM ISO and use that , you know... . Pretty sure they work on all OEMs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could just keep a copy of the OEM ISO and use that, you know....
Pretty sure they work on all OEMs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646808</id>
	<title>Optimized...for....</title>
	<author>TheCarp</author>
	<datestamp>1262602200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ahhh but did they say it was to be optimized for speed? Could it be that they are optimizing your machine for replacement? Optimized for reporting marketing data to best buy? Optimized for suck? Optimized to make other peoples PCs look better?</p><p>I have to wonder, if surveyed, what percentage of users would report that their PC was faster<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Salesmen are kinda scumbags everywhere. NPR has been doing some great programs on it recently. This morning there was talk of car buying and all the tricks. They talk about "monthly payments" and other abstract notions, because it makes it much easier for them to hide fees into a fully broken up payment than if they were actually talking "out the door" price. Also they even make "math errors" to the point that the person telling the story claimed to have bought cars 4 times and EVERY TIME caught a "math error" that would have had him paying more.</p><p>"Error" indeed.</p><p>I like to keep the salesman's tricks in mind while talking to them. It takes away a lot of their power if your going over the tricks and intended effects in your head "Oh he is looking for a yes here so he can foster agreement" "oh, hes repeating his question again looking to see if I am faltering" "oh, there we go, mentioning value again, must mean its way overpriced"</p><p>then again, I question even this. As it seems some salesmen are extremely vulnerable to their own pitches. I have a friend who briefly sold Kirby vaccuumes. From what I hear their best customers end up being their own salesmen sometimes, and judging from him.... he seemed so sold you almost thought he would end up buying one if he stayed with it. (you may see one demo on how much dirt it picks up, he sees several demos a week...)</p><p>-Steve</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ahhh but did they say it was to be optimized for speed ?
Could it be that they are optimizing your machine for replacement ?
Optimized for reporting marketing data to best buy ?
Optimized for suck ?
Optimized to make other peoples PCs look better ? I have to wonder , if surveyed , what percentage of users would report that their PC was faster : ) Salesmen are kinda scumbags everywhere .
NPR has been doing some great programs on it recently .
This morning there was talk of car buying and all the tricks .
They talk about " monthly payments " and other abstract notions , because it makes it much easier for them to hide fees into a fully broken up payment than if they were actually talking " out the door " price .
Also they even make " math errors " to the point that the person telling the story claimed to have bought cars 4 times and EVERY TIME caught a " math error " that would have had him paying more .
" Error " indeed.I like to keep the salesman 's tricks in mind while talking to them .
It takes away a lot of their power if your going over the tricks and intended effects in your head " Oh he is looking for a yes here so he can foster agreement " " oh , hes repeating his question again looking to see if I am faltering " " oh , there we go , mentioning value again , must mean its way overpriced " then again , I question even this .
As it seems some salesmen are extremely vulnerable to their own pitches .
I have a friend who briefly sold Kirby vaccuumes .
From what I hear their best customers end up being their own salesmen sometimes , and judging from him.... he seemed so sold you almost thought he would end up buying one if he stayed with it .
( you may see one demo on how much dirt it picks up , he sees several demos a week... ) -Steve</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ahhh but did they say it was to be optimized for speed?
Could it be that they are optimizing your machine for replacement?
Optimized for reporting marketing data to best buy?
Optimized for suck?
Optimized to make other peoples PCs look better?I have to wonder, if surveyed, what percentage of users would report that their PC was faster :)Salesmen are kinda scumbags everywhere.
NPR has been doing some great programs on it recently.
This morning there was talk of car buying and all the tricks.
They talk about "monthly payments" and other abstract notions, because it makes it much easier for them to hide fees into a fully broken up payment than if they were actually talking "out the door" price.
Also they even make "math errors" to the point that the person telling the story claimed to have bought cars 4 times and EVERY TIME caught a "math error" that would have had him paying more.
"Error" indeed.I like to keep the salesman's tricks in mind while talking to them.
It takes away a lot of their power if your going over the tricks and intended effects in your head "Oh he is looking for a yes here so he can foster agreement" "oh, hes repeating his question again looking to see if I am faltering" "oh, there we go, mentioning value again, must mean its way overpriced"then again, I question even this.
As it seems some salesmen are extremely vulnerable to their own pitches.
I have a friend who briefly sold Kirby vaccuumes.
From what I hear their best customers end up being their own salesmen sometimes, and judging from him.... he seemed so sold you almost thought he would end up buying one if he stayed with it.
(you may see one demo on how much dirt it picks up, he sees several demos a week...)-Steve</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647734</id>
	<title>Root cause analysis.  Why does this exist?</title>
	<author>geekmux</author>
	<datestamp>1262605980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In keeping fairly close to Moores law in todays hardware realm of dual-core processors and memory measured in Gigabytes, why in the hell do we even need "tuning" on the average consumer desktop in the first place?  I mean c'mon, seriously.  How many YEARS of hardware will run Windows 2000 or XP perfectly with nothing more than an extra stick of RAM?  Compare that to this pig we call Vista?  Exactly.  Houston, I think we found the problem.</p><p>It really does get stupid sometimes thinking about all the jobs Microsoft "accidentally" creates out there...Oddly enough, I can't seem to find the Division in Best Buy of Professional Ubuntu "tuners".  Gee, I wonder why...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In keeping fairly close to Moores law in todays hardware realm of dual-core processors and memory measured in Gigabytes , why in the hell do we even need " tuning " on the average consumer desktop in the first place ?
I mean c'mon , seriously .
How many YEARS of hardware will run Windows 2000 or XP perfectly with nothing more than an extra stick of RAM ?
Compare that to this pig we call Vista ?
Exactly. Houston , I think we found the problem.It really does get stupid sometimes thinking about all the jobs Microsoft " accidentally " creates out there...Oddly enough , I ca n't seem to find the Division in Best Buy of Professional Ubuntu " tuners " .
Gee , I wonder why.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In keeping fairly close to Moores law in todays hardware realm of dual-core processors and memory measured in Gigabytes, why in the hell do we even need "tuning" on the average consumer desktop in the first place?
I mean c'mon, seriously.
How many YEARS of hardware will run Windows 2000 or XP perfectly with nothing more than an extra stick of RAM?
Compare that to this pig we call Vista?
Exactly.  Houston, I think we found the problem.It really does get stupid sometimes thinking about all the jobs Microsoft "accidentally" creates out there...Oddly enough, I can't seem to find the Division in Best Buy of Professional Ubuntu "tuners".
Gee, I wonder why...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647758</id>
	<title>Reserving online avoids a lot of hassles</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262606160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Plus you are seeing what is really available at the store (as far as their inventory system "knows"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...), and not getting the upsell runaround from a sales clerk.</p><p>RO</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Plus you are seeing what is really available at the store ( as far as their inventory system " knows " ... ) , and not getting the upsell runaround from a sales clerk.RO</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plus you are seeing what is really available at the store (as far as their inventory system "knows" ...), and not getting the upsell runaround from a sales clerk.RO</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648298</id>
	<title>Re:Best Buy salesmen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262608860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Meh, I see that sort of complaint here whenever BB is on topic, but that hardly ever happens to me or my wife at the BB here.  The general worst-case is an offer of an extended warranty, usually at the check-out, but a lot of stores do that.  A polite "No, thanks", and I'm on my way.  The last time I had any salesman offer a service plan a second time was when buying a washer &amp; dryer (not at BB), and I do that only every decade or so.  YMMV.</p><p>- T</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh , I see that sort of complaint here whenever BB is on topic , but that hardly ever happens to me or my wife at the BB here .
The general worst-case is an offer of an extended warranty , usually at the check-out , but a lot of stores do that .
A polite " No , thanks " , and I 'm on my way .
The last time I had any salesman offer a service plan a second time was when buying a washer &amp; dryer ( not at BB ) , and I do that only every decade or so .
YMMV.- T</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh, I see that sort of complaint here whenever BB is on topic, but that hardly ever happens to me or my wife at the BB here.
The general worst-case is an offer of an extended warranty, usually at the check-out, but a lot of stores do that.
A polite "No, thanks", and I'm on my way.
The last time I had any salesman offer a service plan a second time was when buying a washer &amp; dryer (not at BB), and I do that only every decade or so.
YMMV.- T</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647676</id>
	<title>Re:As someone who worked at Best Buy/Geek Squad...</title>
	<author>snowraver1</author>
	<datestamp>1262605800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i> It would take me N times that long to DL and run any of the bigger Windows updates. On a new machine that was imaged with a base rev of the OS, there are several of those, interspersed with dozens if not hundreds of smaller ones.
</i> <br> <br>You are doing it wrong...  Start the update, watch TV, reboot, update, tv, reboot, done.  It takes like 5 minutes of actual clicking.  You'll spend more time tweaking your browser.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would take me N times that long to DL and run any of the bigger Windows updates .
On a new machine that was imaged with a base rev of the OS , there are several of those , interspersed with dozens if not hundreds of smaller ones .
You are doing it wrong... Start the update , watch TV , reboot , update , tv , reboot , done .
It takes like 5 minutes of actual clicking .
You 'll spend more time tweaking your browser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> It would take me N times that long to DL and run any of the bigger Windows updates.
On a new machine that was imaged with a base rev of the OS, there are several of those, interspersed with dozens if not hundreds of smaller ones.
You are doing it wrong...  Start the update, watch TV, reboot, update, tv, reboot, done.
It takes like 5 minutes of actual clicking.
You'll spend more time tweaking your browser.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646718</id>
	<title>Must be a Mistake</title>
	<author>flyneye</author>
	<datestamp>1262601780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Best Buy selling snake oil? No , it must be a mistake. A misunderstanding.<br>I mean they got a Geek Squad in farfergnugen cop cars. These are professionals.<br>I guess they gotta have A+ certification and everything. You must be missing out on the subtle but brilliant improvement.<br>It may start slow but in that last second everything goes 200\% faster. Just like those Geek buggies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Best Buy selling snake oil ?
No , it must be a mistake .
A misunderstanding.I mean they got a Geek Squad in farfergnugen cop cars .
These are professionals.I guess they got ta have A + certification and everything .
You must be missing out on the subtle but brilliant improvement.It may start slow but in that last second everything goes 200 \ % faster .
Just like those Geek buggies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Best Buy selling snake oil?
No , it must be a mistake.
A misunderstanding.I mean they got a Geek Squad in farfergnugen cop cars.
These are professionals.I guess they gotta have A+ certification and everything.
You must be missing out on the subtle but brilliant improvement.It may start slow but in that last second everything goes 200\% faster.
Just like those Geek buggies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648214</id>
	<title>If they don't ask, they get fired.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262608560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't blame the employees for asking those questions - they don't have a choice in the matter. If they don't try to sell you crap you don't need, they get fired.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't blame the employees for asking those questions - they do n't have a choice in the matter .
If they do n't try to sell you crap you do n't need , they get fired .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't blame the employees for asking those questions - they don't have a choice in the matter.
If they don't try to sell you crap you don't need, they get fired.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648998</id>
	<title>Re:Who buys a computer from best buy?</title>
	<author>Awptimus Prime</author>
	<datestamp>1262611860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do purchase from Newegg, but I don't blindly trust their pricing scheme. They marked up SSDs massively when distribution channels were backordered. I was able to pick up a G2 160GB Intel drive for $440 when Newegg was taking orders for the same model for over $600.</p><p>They often over price accessories. Most recent one I've noticed is that NIA controller (some brain reading device) being like $120 after an 'instant rebate' but the same thing is sitting on the shelf at a local Microcenter store for $83. The same thing goes for their shipping rates often being flat on each product instead of by total weight of the purchase, so you end up paying way more for shipping than you ever would if you tried sending the same amount of stuff yourself.</p><p>Other things, such as CPUs and DIMMs, they do very well with and some of the shell shocker deals are pretty good. But, I would recommend looking around a bit before just blindly grabbing something from a retailer due to 'trust'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do purchase from Newegg , but I do n't blindly trust their pricing scheme .
They marked up SSDs massively when distribution channels were backordered .
I was able to pick up a G2 160GB Intel drive for $ 440 when Newegg was taking orders for the same model for over $ 600.They often over price accessories .
Most recent one I 've noticed is that NIA controller ( some brain reading device ) being like $ 120 after an 'instant rebate ' but the same thing is sitting on the shelf at a local Microcenter store for $ 83 .
The same thing goes for their shipping rates often being flat on each product instead of by total weight of the purchase , so you end up paying way more for shipping than you ever would if you tried sending the same amount of stuff yourself.Other things , such as CPUs and DIMMs , they do very well with and some of the shell shocker deals are pretty good .
But , I would recommend looking around a bit before just blindly grabbing something from a retailer due to 'trust' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do purchase from Newegg, but I don't blindly trust their pricing scheme.
They marked up SSDs massively when distribution channels were backordered.
I was able to pick up a G2 160GB Intel drive for $440 when Newegg was taking orders for the same model for over $600.They often over price accessories.
Most recent one I've noticed is that NIA controller (some brain reading device) being like $120 after an 'instant rebate' but the same thing is sitting on the shelf at a local Microcenter store for $83.
The same thing goes for their shipping rates often being flat on each product instead of by total weight of the purchase, so you end up paying way more for shipping than you ever would if you tried sending the same amount of stuff yourself.Other things, such as CPUs and DIMMs, they do very well with and some of the shell shocker deals are pretty good.
But, I would recommend looking around a bit before just blindly grabbing something from a retailer due to 'trust'.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647006</id>
	<title>Thanks to the broken US justice system</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1262602980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some lawyer will file a class action suit against Best Buy for this practice.</p><p>Best Buy will ignore it until the moment it looks like they will really go to court, then Best Buy will settle.</p><p>The settlement will be for $48 million. The lawyers will get $45 million, and the other $3 million will be in the form of "certificates" awarded to the plaintiffs good for 1 free "optimization" on a computer purchase at Best Buy within the next 12 months.</p><p>That's how it works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some lawyer will file a class action suit against Best Buy for this practice.Best Buy will ignore it until the moment it looks like they will really go to court , then Best Buy will settle.The settlement will be for $ 48 million .
The lawyers will get $ 45 million , and the other $ 3 million will be in the form of " certificates " awarded to the plaintiffs good for 1 free " optimization " on a computer purchase at Best Buy within the next 12 months.That 's how it works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some lawyer will file a class action suit against Best Buy for this practice.Best Buy will ignore it until the moment it looks like they will really go to court, then Best Buy will settle.The settlement will be for $48 million.
The lawyers will get $45 million, and the other $3 million will be in the form of "certificates" awarded to the plaintiffs good for 1 free "optimization" on a computer purchase at Best Buy within the next 12 months.That's how it works.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30650990</id>
	<title>Re:Preinstall deals are probably to blame</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262624400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Geek Squad employee here, the optimizations we do are mostly stopping shit from auto-starting at boot. I worked at a store where we would basically uninstall anything that was a trial and and do other manual tweaks to make the computer work with as little overhead as possible. The store I work in now is different, we do things as lazily as possible and just stop things like CinemaNow and RealPlayerUpdater from starting up automatically. Basically, we charge $40 for the equivalent of a couple of minutes in msconfig. So depending on the Best Buy you go to, you might either get stellar service or piss-poor one. In both stores, though, we install drivers, so if you think a computer just has a driver issue, send them our way. I'm not A+ certified, but to be fair, most computer problems aren't anything that takes much more than a offline virus scan and reinstall of software.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Geek Squad employee here , the optimizations we do are mostly stopping shit from auto-starting at boot .
I worked at a store where we would basically uninstall anything that was a trial and and do other manual tweaks to make the computer work with as little overhead as possible .
The store I work in now is different , we do things as lazily as possible and just stop things like CinemaNow and RealPlayerUpdater from starting up automatically .
Basically , we charge $ 40 for the equivalent of a couple of minutes in msconfig .
So depending on the Best Buy you go to , you might either get stellar service or piss-poor one .
In both stores , though , we install drivers , so if you think a computer just has a driver issue , send them our way .
I 'm not A + certified , but to be fair , most computer problems are n't anything that takes much more than a offline virus scan and reinstall of software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Geek Squad employee here, the optimizations we do are mostly stopping shit from auto-starting at boot.
I worked at a store where we would basically uninstall anything that was a trial and and do other manual tweaks to make the computer work with as little overhead as possible.
The store I work in now is different, we do things as lazily as possible and just stop things like CinemaNow and RealPlayerUpdater from starting up automatically.
Basically, we charge $40 for the equivalent of a couple of minutes in msconfig.
So depending on the Best Buy you go to, you might either get stellar service or piss-poor one.
In both stores, though, we install drivers, so if you think a computer just has a driver issue, send them our way.
I'm not A+ certified, but to be fair, most computer problems aren't anything that takes much more than a offline virus scan and reinstall of software.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30650186</id>
	<title>Paying to remove spam</title>
	<author>cenc</author>
	<datestamp>1262618460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The last time I looked at notebook in best buy, and the sales kid gave me the spew about optimization I asked what they did. He told me they removed all the advertising crap. Which on some level might be useful, if I did not have a standard wipe all the crap of the drive policy and reinstall before using even new notebooks (i.e. upgrade to my favorite Linux distro).</p><p>In best buys defense, I did once buy a total piece of shit HP notebook from them that died a week after the HP warrenty expired ( the bios seems to have self-destructed ). I got suckered in to buying their 3 year "insurance" plan on my way out the door for like $150. I had it declared dead by an HP rep in a foreign country, and they sent me a check for $1300 with no BS. Even better I had bought it on sale for $700, and for some reason they paid me the full price.  By the way they quit selling that insurance plan about a month after I bought it. It was obviously a little too good.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The last time I looked at notebook in best buy , and the sales kid gave me the spew about optimization I asked what they did .
He told me they removed all the advertising crap .
Which on some level might be useful , if I did not have a standard wipe all the crap of the drive policy and reinstall before using even new notebooks ( i.e .
upgrade to my favorite Linux distro ) .In best buys defense , I did once buy a total piece of shit HP notebook from them that died a week after the HP warrenty expired ( the bios seems to have self-destructed ) .
I got suckered in to buying their 3 year " insurance " plan on my way out the door for like $ 150 .
I had it declared dead by an HP rep in a foreign country , and they sent me a check for $ 1300 with no BS .
Even better I had bought it on sale for $ 700 , and for some reason they paid me the full price .
By the way they quit selling that insurance plan about a month after I bought it .
It was obviously a little too good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The last time I looked at notebook in best buy, and the sales kid gave me the spew about optimization I asked what they did.
He told me they removed all the advertising crap.
Which on some level might be useful, if I did not have a standard wipe all the crap of the drive policy and reinstall before using even new notebooks (i.e.
upgrade to my favorite Linux distro).In best buys defense, I did once buy a total piece of shit HP notebook from them that died a week after the HP warrenty expired ( the bios seems to have self-destructed ).
I got suckered in to buying their 3 year "insurance" plan on my way out the door for like $150.
I had it declared dead by an HP rep in a foreign country, and they sent me a check for $1300 with no BS.
Even better I had bought it on sale for $700, and for some reason they paid me the full price.
By the way they quit selling that insurance plan about a month after I bought it.
It was obviously a little too good.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647366</id>
	<title>Re:Optimized...for....</title>
	<author>Urza9814</author>
	<datestamp>1262604480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yea, related to your car dealer tricks - my mom recently bought a new car from a local dealership, and a month later discovered they'd charged her for a 'sport package' or something that she didn't want, they never discussed during the sale, and they hadn't given her. And it wasn't that there was an option in there for it - they said the base price for the car was a certain amount, but that base price was for the car including the sport package. So essentially they quoted the base price from a different car.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yea , related to your car dealer tricks - my mom recently bought a new car from a local dealership , and a month later discovered they 'd charged her for a 'sport package ' or something that she did n't want , they never discussed during the sale , and they had n't given her .
And it was n't that there was an option in there for it - they said the base price for the car was a certain amount , but that base price was for the car including the sport package .
So essentially they quoted the base price from a different car .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yea, related to your car dealer tricks - my mom recently bought a new car from a local dealership, and a month later discovered they'd charged her for a 'sport package' or something that she didn't want, they never discussed during the sale, and they hadn't given her.
And it wasn't that there was an option in there for it - they said the base price for the car was a certain amount, but that base price was for the car including the sport package.
So essentially they quoted the base price from a different car.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648154</id>
	<title>Re:Best Buy salesmen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262608260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>too bad you don't have a Fry's Electronics nearby.  They rock!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>too bad you do n't have a Fry 's Electronics nearby .
They rock !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>too bad you don't have a Fry's Electronics nearby.
They rock!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648140</id>
	<title>Re:Best Buy salesmen</title>
	<author>pongo000</author>
	<datestamp>1262608200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another Best Buy story:  After finally throwing in the towel on Mythbuntu (mythv has actually gotten more and more unstable as the version numbers have gone up), on impulse I went to Best Buy to purchase a TiVo HD unit.  Carried it to the register, where the friendly cashier asked me for my phone number.  I gave her the usual random answer, whereupon she asked me for my name and address.</p><p>Me: "What do you need that for?"<br>Her: "I don't know, the screen says I need to ask you for this, and it won't let me out of it."<br>Me:  "Well, I just want to buy this, I don't need Best Buy to register it for me."<br>Her: "Well, I don't know what to do."<br>Me: "My suggestion would be to just take my money and help the next customer."</p><p>Obviously, a poor suggestion. After calling over a sales rep who was just as clueless, I finally offered up "John Smith."  He told me he knew my name wasn't John Smith (!), and that if I didn't provide my real info, he couldn't sell me the unit.</p><p>Since I was going to pay with CC, it was somewhat pointless to give a fake name.  I could have called for a manager, but decided it wasn't worth my time to stick around and told them I'd just go buy it elsewhere.</p><p>I ended up discovering there is some sort of marketing agreement between Best Buy and TiVo, so they no doubt wanted my information to further pester me.  In the end, I just spent my money on a Moxi DVR.  Fuck Best Buy, and fuck TiVo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another Best Buy story : After finally throwing in the towel on Mythbuntu ( mythv has actually gotten more and more unstable as the version numbers have gone up ) , on impulse I went to Best Buy to purchase a TiVo HD unit .
Carried it to the register , where the friendly cashier asked me for my phone number .
I gave her the usual random answer , whereupon she asked me for my name and address.Me : " What do you need that for ?
" Her : " I do n't know , the screen says I need to ask you for this , and it wo n't let me out of it .
" Me : " Well , I just want to buy this , I do n't need Best Buy to register it for me .
" Her : " Well , I do n't know what to do .
" Me : " My suggestion would be to just take my money and help the next customer .
" Obviously , a poor suggestion .
After calling over a sales rep who was just as clueless , I finally offered up " John Smith .
" He told me he knew my name was n't John Smith ( !
) , and that if I did n't provide my real info , he could n't sell me the unit.Since I was going to pay with CC , it was somewhat pointless to give a fake name .
I could have called for a manager , but decided it was n't worth my time to stick around and told them I 'd just go buy it elsewhere.I ended up discovering there is some sort of marketing agreement between Best Buy and TiVo , so they no doubt wanted my information to further pester me .
In the end , I just spent my money on a Moxi DVR .
Fuck Best Buy , and fuck TiVo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another Best Buy story:  After finally throwing in the towel on Mythbuntu (mythv has actually gotten more and more unstable as the version numbers have gone up), on impulse I went to Best Buy to purchase a TiVo HD unit.
Carried it to the register, where the friendly cashier asked me for my phone number.
I gave her the usual random answer, whereupon she asked me for my name and address.Me: "What do you need that for?
"Her: "I don't know, the screen says I need to ask you for this, and it won't let me out of it.
"Me:  "Well, I just want to buy this, I don't need Best Buy to register it for me.
"Her: "Well, I don't know what to do.
"Me: "My suggestion would be to just take my money and help the next customer.
"Obviously, a poor suggestion.
After calling over a sales rep who was just as clueless, I finally offered up "John Smith.
"  He told me he knew my name wasn't John Smith (!
), and that if I didn't provide my real info, he couldn't sell me the unit.Since I was going to pay with CC, it was somewhat pointless to give a fake name.
I could have called for a manager, but decided it wasn't worth my time to stick around and told them I'd just go buy it elsewhere.I ended up discovering there is some sort of marketing agreement between Best Buy and TiVo, so they no doubt wanted my information to further pester me.
In the end, I just spent my money on a Moxi DVR.
Fuck Best Buy, and fuck TiVo.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647104</id>
	<title>Re:BestBuy will never be allowed to "optimize"</title>
	<author>Killer Orca</author>
	<datestamp>1262603340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>(and not from the restore partition, which invariably puts all the crap back on there).</p></div><p>Pray tell who or what is this store or manufacturer that will include actual Windows install discs on a new PC purchase?  That has become a deciding factor for me personally on a future laptop purchase.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( and not from the restore partition , which invariably puts all the crap back on there ) .Pray tell who or what is this store or manufacturer that will include actual Windows install discs on a new PC purchase ?
That has become a deciding factor for me personally on a future laptop purchase .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(and not from the restore partition, which invariably puts all the crap back on there).Pray tell who or what is this store or manufacturer that will include actual Windows install discs on a new PC purchase?
That has become a deciding factor for me personally on a future laptop purchase.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647198</id>
	<title>Re:As someone who worked at Best Buy/Geek Squad...</title>
	<author>AndrewNeo</author>
	<datestamp>1262603760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They tried selling us an extended warranty on a Wii Nunchuck accessory. It's just getting ridiculous.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They tried selling us an extended warranty on a Wii Nunchuck accessory .
It 's just getting ridiculous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They tried selling us an extended warranty on a Wii Nunchuck accessory.
It's just getting ridiculous.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648588</id>
	<title>Re:To be fair...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262610120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As an employee at Best Buy, not in Geek Squad, customer service I can tell you for a fact, what they do is update the operating system to the latest patches and such.  Other than they the whole "optimizing" the registry is a waste of time.  Most stores are only supposed to do that to 30\% of their laptops in stock, but in actuality (at least at my store, the flag ship on in our region) there are a bunch of managers that are cowboying it to nearly 90\% of our stock.</p><p>I get a lot of angry returns because we cannot refund optimization, stating hat it is a "labor" charge.  So I try to help out the customer with an exchange by knocking off 40 bucks from the cost of a un-optimized machine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As an employee at Best Buy , not in Geek Squad , customer service I can tell you for a fact , what they do is update the operating system to the latest patches and such .
Other than they the whole " optimizing " the registry is a waste of time .
Most stores are only supposed to do that to 30 \ % of their laptops in stock , but in actuality ( at least at my store , the flag ship on in our region ) there are a bunch of managers that are cowboying it to nearly 90 \ % of our stock.I get a lot of angry returns because we can not refund optimization , stating hat it is a " labor " charge .
So I try to help out the customer with an exchange by knocking off 40 bucks from the cost of a un-optimized machine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As an employee at Best Buy, not in Geek Squad, customer service I can tell you for a fact, what they do is update the operating system to the latest patches and such.
Other than they the whole "optimizing" the registry is a waste of time.
Most stores are only supposed to do that to 30\% of their laptops in stock, but in actuality (at least at my store, the flag ship on in our region) there are a bunch of managers that are cowboying it to nearly 90\% of our stock.I get a lot of angry returns because we cannot refund optimization, stating hat it is a "labor" charge.
So I try to help out the customer with an exchange by knocking off 40 bucks from the cost of a un-optimized machine.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30649046</id>
	<title>Re:BestBuy will never be allowed to "optimize"</title>
	<author>Totenglocke</author>
	<datestamp>1262612040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Pray tell who or what is this store or manufacturer that will include actual Windows install discs on a new PC purchase? That has become a deciding factor for me personally on a future laptop purchase.</p></div><p>Bittorrent, that's who!  I'm actually being serious.  I've had to fix a few systems for relatives and didn't have discs for the OS (such as my sisters desktop running XP Media Center 2005), so I downloaded a torrent of the version of Windows that came with the system, used the cd-key that's on the sticker for the case, and BAM, clean install and it's legit since it's using the same key that the original crippled OS used.</p><p>Yes, I realize that <i>technically</i> it's illegal, but since you've already paid for the Windows license for that system, I don't think any rational person would try to claim that what you're doing is wrong or should be illegal.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pray tell who or what is this store or manufacturer that will include actual Windows install discs on a new PC purchase ?
That has become a deciding factor for me personally on a future laptop purchase.Bittorrent , that 's who !
I 'm actually being serious .
I 've had to fix a few systems for relatives and did n't have discs for the OS ( such as my sisters desktop running XP Media Center 2005 ) , so I downloaded a torrent of the version of Windows that came with the system , used the cd-key that 's on the sticker for the case , and BAM , clean install and it 's legit since it 's using the same key that the original crippled OS used.Yes , I realize that technically it 's illegal , but since you 've already paid for the Windows license for that system , I do n't think any rational person would try to claim that what you 're doing is wrong or should be illegal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pray tell who or what is this store or manufacturer that will include actual Windows install discs on a new PC purchase?
That has become a deciding factor for me personally on a future laptop purchase.Bittorrent, that's who!
I'm actually being serious.
I've had to fix a few systems for relatives and didn't have discs for the OS (such as my sisters desktop running XP Media Center 2005), so I downloaded a torrent of the version of Windows that came with the system, used the cd-key that's on the sticker for the case, and BAM, clean install and it's legit since it's using the same key that the original crippled OS used.Yes, I realize that technically it's illegal, but since you've already paid for the Windows license for that system, I don't think any rational person would try to claim that what you're doing is wrong or should be illegal.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30650614</id>
	<title>Re:BestBuy will never be allowed to "optimize"</title>
	<author>mister\_playboy</author>
	<datestamp>1262621700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why?  Pick the computer you want based on its looks and hardware, and just visit The Pirate Bay for an install disc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ?
Pick the computer you want based on its looks and hardware , and just visit The Pirate Bay for an install disc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why?
Pick the computer you want based on its looks and hardware, and just visit The Pirate Bay for an install disc.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30649406</id>
	<title>This only needs to be said one time</title>
	<author>RobertLTux</author>
	<datestamp>1262613780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If i am buying a new computer that computer had better be in sealed factory condition since i have no idea what was done to the computer after it was opened. If I select to have it "optimized" i want to see the tech that is doing the service (so i can "shoot him later").</p><p>How do i know that the previous person didn't put a webserver and a nice selection of kiddie porn on it??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If i am buying a new computer that computer had better be in sealed factory condition since i have no idea what was done to the computer after it was opened .
If I select to have it " optimized " i want to see the tech that is doing the service ( so i can " shoot him later " ) .How do i know that the previous person did n't put a webserver and a nice selection of kiddie porn on it ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If i am buying a new computer that computer had better be in sealed factory condition since i have no idea what was done to the computer after it was opened.
If I select to have it "optimized" i want to see the tech that is doing the service (so i can "shoot him later").How do i know that the previous person didn't put a webserver and a nice selection of kiddie porn on it?
?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30649460</id>
	<title>Moderators on crack</title>
	<author>Junior J. Junior III</author>
	<datestamp>1262613960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How is the parent comment "Funny"?  It's TRUE.</p><p>I guess things can be both true and funny, but this deserves some Informative points.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How is the parent comment " Funny " ?
It 's TRUE.I guess things can be both true and funny , but this deserves some Informative points .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is the parent comment "Funny"?
It's TRUE.I guess things can be both true and funny, but this deserves some Informative points.</sentencetext>
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	<title>An opened box means selling "used" as "new"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262701140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How can a national chain like Best Buy expect to continue to do this?<br>-If a consumer can't buy a product at the advertised price without being hit with an unwanted service fee, that's plainly 'bait-and-switch', and the AG should get involved.<br>-If the box has been opened, there's no way to tell if it was just BB to do the "optimization", or it's been returned by another customer.  They should knock off the 15\% restocking fee from the normal price.<br>-Any modifications of the factory state before the consumer gets it must be in violation of manufacturer contracts with the trial program publishers.  I can almost hear the lawyers salivating...<br>-If the "optimization" doesn't actually improve the performance, but the consumer is told it's a 200\% improvement, it will reflect badly on the manufacturer - HP, Sony, Acer, etc, will want to put a stop to that really quickly.</p><p>Bottom line, if you can't buy a factory sealed box at the advertised price, walk away and make a bunch of phone calls/emails.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How can a national chain like Best Buy expect to continue to do this ? -If a consumer ca n't buy a product at the advertised price without being hit with an unwanted service fee , that 's plainly 'bait-and-switch ' , and the AG should get involved.-If the box has been opened , there 's no way to tell if it was just BB to do the " optimization " , or it 's been returned by another customer .
They should knock off the 15 \ % restocking fee from the normal price.-Any modifications of the factory state before the consumer gets it must be in violation of manufacturer contracts with the trial program publishers .
I can almost hear the lawyers salivating...-If the " optimization " does n't actually improve the performance , but the consumer is told it 's a 200 \ % improvement , it will reflect badly on the manufacturer - HP , Sony , Acer , etc , will want to put a stop to that really quickly.Bottom line , if you ca n't buy a factory sealed box at the advertised price , walk away and make a bunch of phone calls/emails .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How can a national chain like Best Buy expect to continue to do this?-If a consumer can't buy a product at the advertised price without being hit with an unwanted service fee, that's plainly 'bait-and-switch', and the AG should get involved.-If the box has been opened, there's no way to tell if it was just BB to do the "optimization", or it's been returned by another customer.
They should knock off the 15\% restocking fee from the normal price.-Any modifications of the factory state before the consumer gets it must be in violation of manufacturer contracts with the trial program publishers.
I can almost hear the lawyers salivating...-If the "optimization" doesn't actually improve the performance, but the consumer is told it's a 200\% improvement, it will reflect badly on the manufacturer - HP, Sony, Acer, etc, will want to put a stop to that really quickly.Bottom line, if you can't buy a factory sealed box at the advertised price, walk away and make a bunch of phone calls/emails.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30650532</id>
	<title>optimization???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262620920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that's my optimization:</p><p># make-kpkg --config menuconfig</p><p>works great for me!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that 's my optimization : # make-kpkg --config menuconfigworks great for me !
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that's my optimization:# make-kpkg --config menuconfigworks great for me!
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647964</id>
	<title>Re:I'll optimize your new PC for free.</title>
	<author>AvitarX</author>
	<datestamp>1262607120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>pcdecrapifier takes time.</p><p>I Would be hard pressed to bill under $40 to do it for someone, of course, deleting the shortcuts on the desktop is a different thing entirely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>pcdecrapifier takes time.I Would be hard pressed to bill under $ 40 to do it for someone , of course , deleting the shortcuts on the desktop is a different thing entirely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>pcdecrapifier takes time.I Would be hard pressed to bill under $40 to do it for someone, of course, deleting the shortcuts on the desktop is a different thing entirely.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647630</id>
	<title>Re:I'll optimize your new PC for free.</title>
	<author>sakdoctor</author>
	<datestamp>1262605620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Windows optimizer 2009!</p><p>Windows Optimizer is a serious internets tool developed and published by advanced programmers and is used by every clever Microsoft Windows user. It is considered the best program to speed up your PC, and has been estimated to have been downloaded over 9000 times per second and has won many internet awards. Features include instant-defragging, cache-cleaner, registry cleaner, etc.<br>It assists the user in deleting a system default which is shipped with most new computers, but the average internet user finds it a lengthy and difficult process to remove it.<br>The 2008 version is compatible with Windows XP and Vista. The new 2009-r1a freeware is compatible with Windows 95 through Windows 7. It eliminates virii and those pesky DLLs that even Windows 2000 won't delete! Download your copy on the internets.</p><p>Testimonials:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>TURBO IS FUCKING AWESOME</p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>Wow i get loads more fps, thanks man!</p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>Wow this unlocked the ability to download a whole new video card to my desktop for FREE! This program is a must have!</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows optimizer 2009 ! Windows Optimizer is a serious internets tool developed and published by advanced programmers and is used by every clever Microsoft Windows user .
It is considered the best program to speed up your PC , and has been estimated to have been downloaded over 9000 times per second and has won many internet awards .
Features include instant-defragging , cache-cleaner , registry cleaner , etc.It assists the user in deleting a system default which is shipped with most new computers , but the average internet user finds it a lengthy and difficult process to remove it.The 2008 version is compatible with Windows XP and Vista .
The new 2009-r1a freeware is compatible with Windows 95 through Windows 7 .
It eliminates virii and those pesky DLLs that even Windows 2000 wo n't delete !
Download your copy on the internets.Testimonials : TURBO IS FUCKING AWESOMEWow i get loads more fps , thanks man ! Wow this unlocked the ability to download a whole new video card to my desktop for FREE !
This program is a must have !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows optimizer 2009!Windows Optimizer is a serious internets tool developed and published by advanced programmers and is used by every clever Microsoft Windows user.
It is considered the best program to speed up your PC, and has been estimated to have been downloaded over 9000 times per second and has won many internet awards.
Features include instant-defragging, cache-cleaner, registry cleaner, etc.It assists the user in deleting a system default which is shipped with most new computers, but the average internet user finds it a lengthy and difficult process to remove it.The 2008 version is compatible with Windows XP and Vista.
The new 2009-r1a freeware is compatible with Windows 95 through Windows 7.
It eliminates virii and those pesky DLLs that even Windows 2000 won't delete!
Download your copy on the internets.Testimonials:TURBO IS FUCKING AWESOMEWow i get loads more fps, thanks man!Wow this unlocked the ability to download a whole new video card to my desktop for FREE!
This program is a must have!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646650</id>
	<title>As an advanced user, this does not bother me!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262601480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is no secret that part of the reasons machines are so cheap these days is because of all of the crapware that comes pre-loaded on them. Sure, Joe and Jane don't know how to get rid of the stuff (and thus have to pay someone to do it). I, however, can do it myself. This means I get to buy a cheaper machine at their expense.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>It is hard to be upset about that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is no secret that part of the reasons machines are so cheap these days is because of all of the crapware that comes pre-loaded on them .
Sure , Joe and Jane do n't know how to get rid of the stuff ( and thus have to pay someone to do it ) .
I , however , can do it myself .
This means I get to buy a cheaper machine at their expense .
: ) It is hard to be upset about that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is no secret that part of the reasons machines are so cheap these days is because of all of the crapware that comes pre-loaded on them.
Sure, Joe and Jane don't know how to get rid of the stuff (and thus have to pay someone to do it).
I, however, can do it myself.
This means I get to buy a cheaper machine at their expense.
:)It is hard to be upset about that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30649236</id>
	<title>Performance Boost?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262613000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's how I get a performance boost on XP.  (A dual boot works well also)</p><p>I build the system from a slipstream disk, patch with WU,MSUPDATE, download secunia scanner psi, patch all the other shit over time and every day.</p><p>I Firewall the system behind an external hardware firewall</p><p>I turn off un-needed services, like windows update, and print spool, etc.. You know what you need tune it! Turn on updates when you need to, you boot faster.</p><p>When I really need power I use CTR-ALT-DEL) and kill explorer.exe and any other process not needed to be running</p><p>The shell then becomes taskmanager.  you can still run your programs just fine you just have to browse for your executables</p><p>Over time you write scripts, batch files and and a vb interface to bring services / terminal (cmd, eConsole, etc) / or programs up and down as needed, the vb program can act in place of explorer.exe shell.  If done right, setting paths, knowing commands, or binding hotkeys, etc. it can make a hella powerful Q6600 workstation which doesn't crash.</p><p>Even with explorer.exe running, the workstation isn't so bad.  When I have explorer.exe running, I run an anti-virus/software firewall which can also can be scripted to start and stop. along with tor, or other services etc.</p><p>The idea here is to treat programs like shit, save your work, but kill them occasionally instead of exiting.  Turning on services only for the application which needs them.  Keeping everyhting patched and to a minimum of running proc's.</p><p>MEMORIZE your basic running process's<br>look them up or kill them if you don't know what they are</p><p>Such a workstation can go from compositing video for 24 or more hours to posting the title screens of the videos onto a website in short time.</p><p>Or perhaps you want all memory to render one big 3D</p><p>With each program behaving as if it crashed as it is "killed" it becomes important to save more often.</p><p>Add transition | save  -  Undo transition | save</p><p>You'll find speed and productivity with the customization of the theme and a dual display as well.</p><p>Virtual Box can be used to keep your online shopping safe, while everything else is just on your hard drive.</p><p>Also have separate drives c: programs  and d: data/video/email/bookmark/passwords</p><p>Also have a backup clone of c:<br>Install program, license, debug, clone!</p><p>Since only programs are stored on c: rolling back actually feels good!</p><p>All your passwords live on a USB backup in a cross platform password manager</p><p>You have your games scripted to kill explorer and run then bring explorer back up.</p><p>Before you laugh, do tell me how fun your windows 7 and IE 8 with protools is..  What nothing?</p><p>Thought so, that's why you still need xp...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's how I get a performance boost on XP .
( A dual boot works well also ) I build the system from a slipstream disk , patch with WU,MSUPDATE , download secunia scanner psi , patch all the other shit over time and every day.I Firewall the system behind an external hardware firewallI turn off un-needed services , like windows update , and print spool , etc.. You know what you need tune it !
Turn on updates when you need to , you boot faster.When I really need power I use CTR-ALT-DEL ) and kill explorer.exe and any other process not needed to be runningThe shell then becomes taskmanager .
you can still run your programs just fine you just have to browse for your executablesOver time you write scripts , batch files and and a vb interface to bring services / terminal ( cmd , eConsole , etc ) / or programs up and down as needed , the vb program can act in place of explorer.exe shell .
If done right , setting paths , knowing commands , or binding hotkeys , etc .
it can make a hella powerful Q6600 workstation which does n't crash.Even with explorer.exe running , the workstation is n't so bad .
When I have explorer.exe running , I run an anti-virus/software firewall which can also can be scripted to start and stop .
along with tor , or other services etc.The idea here is to treat programs like shit , save your work , but kill them occasionally instead of exiting .
Turning on services only for the application which needs them .
Keeping everyhting patched and to a minimum of running proc 's.MEMORIZE your basic running process'slook them up or kill them if you do n't know what they areSuch a workstation can go from compositing video for 24 or more hours to posting the title screens of the videos onto a website in short time.Or perhaps you want all memory to render one big 3DWith each program behaving as if it crashed as it is " killed " it becomes important to save more often.Add transition | save - Undo transition | saveYou 'll find speed and productivity with the customization of the theme and a dual display as well.Virtual Box can be used to keep your online shopping safe , while everything else is just on your hard drive.Also have separate drives c : programs and d : data/video/email/bookmark/passwordsAlso have a backup clone of c : Install program , license , debug , clone ! Since only programs are stored on c : rolling back actually feels good ! All your passwords live on a USB backup in a cross platform password managerYou have your games scripted to kill explorer and run then bring explorer back up.Before you laugh , do tell me how fun your windows 7 and IE 8 with protools is.. What nothing ? Thought so , that 's why you still need xp.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's how I get a performance boost on XP.
(A dual boot works well also)I build the system from a slipstream disk, patch with WU,MSUPDATE, download secunia scanner psi, patch all the other shit over time and every day.I Firewall the system behind an external hardware firewallI turn off un-needed services, like windows update, and print spool, etc.. You know what you need tune it!
Turn on updates when you need to, you boot faster.When I really need power I use CTR-ALT-DEL) and kill explorer.exe and any other process not needed to be runningThe shell then becomes taskmanager.
you can still run your programs just fine you just have to browse for your executablesOver time you write scripts, batch files and and a vb interface to bring services / terminal (cmd, eConsole, etc) / or programs up and down as needed, the vb program can act in place of explorer.exe shell.
If done right, setting paths, knowing commands, or binding hotkeys, etc.
it can make a hella powerful Q6600 workstation which doesn't crash.Even with explorer.exe running, the workstation isn't so bad.
When I have explorer.exe running, I run an anti-virus/software firewall which can also can be scripted to start and stop.
along with tor, or other services etc.The idea here is to treat programs like shit, save your work, but kill them occasionally instead of exiting.
Turning on services only for the application which needs them.
Keeping everyhting patched and to a minimum of running proc's.MEMORIZE your basic running process'slook them up or kill them if you don't know what they areSuch a workstation can go from compositing video for 24 or more hours to posting the title screens of the videos onto a website in short time.Or perhaps you want all memory to render one big 3DWith each program behaving as if it crashed as it is "killed" it becomes important to save more often.Add transition | save  -  Undo transition | saveYou'll find speed and productivity with the customization of the theme and a dual display as well.Virtual Box can be used to keep your online shopping safe, while everything else is just on your hard drive.Also have separate drives c: programs  and d: data/video/email/bookmark/passwordsAlso have a backup clone of c:Install program, license, debug, clone!Since only programs are stored on c: rolling back actually feels good!All your passwords live on a USB backup in a cross platform password managerYou have your games scripted to kill explorer and run then bring explorer back up.Before you laugh, do tell me how fun your windows 7 and IE 8 with protools is..  What nothing?Thought so, that's why you still need xp...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30653294</id>
	<title>Re:BestBuy will never be allowed to "optimize"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262693520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Although my bottom of the range Dell desktop only came with a restore disk and partition, not a full install disc, it's not really an issue since there were only two significant pieces of crap/trialware, which uninstalled cleanly in less than 5 minutes; I can't say I find that objectionable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Although my bottom of the range Dell desktop only came with a restore disk and partition , not a full install disc , it 's not really an issue since there were only two significant pieces of crap/trialware , which uninstalled cleanly in less than 5 minutes ; I ca n't say I find that objectionable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although my bottom of the range Dell desktop only came with a restore disk and partition, not a full install disc, it's not really an issue since there were only two significant pieces of crap/trialware, which uninstalled cleanly in less than 5 minutes; I can't say I find that objectionable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648094</id>
	<title>Re:As someone who worked at Best Buy/Geek Squad...</title>
	<author>Bert64</author>
	<datestamp>1262607900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Send in a computer which is totally infested with malware, maybe it will be able to infect their network and/or other customers...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Send in a computer which is totally infested with malware , maybe it will be able to infect their network and/or other customers.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Send in a computer which is totally infested with malware, maybe it will be able to infect their network and/or other customers...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647974</id>
	<title>Not surprised</title>
	<author>ShoulderGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1262607120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is the same store that steers people to Monster HDMI cables "because the generic brands aren't rated for 120Hz." And try to sell Mac computers "because they can't get viruses."</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the same store that steers people to Monster HDMI cables " because the generic brands are n't rated for 120Hz .
" And try to sell Mac computers " because they ca n't get viruses .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the same store that steers people to Monster HDMI cables "because the generic brands aren't rated for 120Hz.
" And try to sell Mac computers "because they can't get viruses.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647200</id>
	<title>Re:I'll optimize your new PC for free.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262603760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll give you my Direct Hard Disk Optimization technique (patent pending):

<ol>
<li>Download an Ubuntu Live CD: <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ubuntu.com/</a> [ubuntu.com] </li><li>Boot from it and open a terminal</li><li>Run: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M</li>
<li>Enjoy optimization</li></ol></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll give you my Direct Hard Disk Optimization technique ( patent pending ) : Download an Ubuntu Live CD : http : //www.ubuntu.com/ [ ubuntu.com ] Boot from it and open a terminalRun : dd if = /dev/zero of = /dev/sda bs = 1M Enjoy optimization</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll give you my Direct Hard Disk Optimization technique (patent pending):


Download an Ubuntu Live CD: http://www.ubuntu.com/ [ubuntu.com] Boot from it and open a terminalRun: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M
Enjoy optimization</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30652718</id>
	<title>Re:System tuning...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262686260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Recompile the kernel &amp; desktop environment (suggest XFCE or LXDE, or E17) specifically for your netbook. Enjoy a ~30\% performance boost.<br>Oh wait, that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...other OS?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Recompile the kernel &amp; desktop environment ( suggest XFCE or LXDE , or E17 ) specifically for your netbook .
Enjoy a ~ 30 \ % performance boost.Oh wait , that ...other OS ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Recompile the kernel &amp; desktop environment (suggest XFCE or LXDE, or E17) specifically for your netbook.
Enjoy a ~30\% performance boost.Oh wait, that ...other OS?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647998</id>
	<title>Used to be Tech at BBY</title>
	<author>fyta2000</author>
	<datestamp>1262607300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am not saying it is worth $40 for this service, but I did used to perform this service when I used to work there. (I believe this service was cheaper then too.)

Paying for this service on a brand new computer will most likely not be worth the cost since the computer is not loaded with all the crap that most pc users accumulate over time. Yes, there is a lot of bloatware preloaded, and we would often remove these from startup. Other then that, that's about all we could do on a new pc. So, not really worth it for a new pc. I dont like the results of this test since doing it on a new pc isn't worth it.

When I would do this service on old pcs, most of the time the customer would go home quite happy with their computer. People get so much junk and adware on their computer, it slows it down considerably, and I would do everything I could to remove it.

The service also depends on who performs the service.

A problem we did face is the software we could use to perform the service. For a while we would use adaware, spybot search and destroy, etc. But then we were told we could not use them since they are only free individual consumers, not for corporations. This made it more complicated, since now we then would have to sell the customer software so we could use it to remove the crap on their pc.

The optimization is often used as a way to upsell to a customer other services, ram upgrades, virus software, virus removal, etc.

Often we would tell a customer what to do to do it themselves (download adaware, spybot, etc). However, when so many customers dont know how to even do that, then our service was of a lot of help to them.

Probably for someone that is reads slashdot, you wont need optimization "service" since you're techy enough.

There are so many factors of whether it is worth it or not. So for on a new pc, no. For tech guru, no. For grandma that can barely do the basics, probably yes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am not saying it is worth $ 40 for this service , but I did used to perform this service when I used to work there .
( I believe this service was cheaper then too .
) Paying for this service on a brand new computer will most likely not be worth the cost since the computer is not loaded with all the crap that most pc users accumulate over time .
Yes , there is a lot of bloatware preloaded , and we would often remove these from startup .
Other then that , that 's about all we could do on a new pc .
So , not really worth it for a new pc .
I dont like the results of this test since doing it on a new pc is n't worth it .
When I would do this service on old pcs , most of the time the customer would go home quite happy with their computer .
People get so much junk and adware on their computer , it slows it down considerably , and I would do everything I could to remove it .
The service also depends on who performs the service .
A problem we did face is the software we could use to perform the service .
For a while we would use adaware , spybot search and destroy , etc .
But then we were told we could not use them since they are only free individual consumers , not for corporations .
This made it more complicated , since now we then would have to sell the customer software so we could use it to remove the crap on their pc .
The optimization is often used as a way to upsell to a customer other services , ram upgrades , virus software , virus removal , etc .
Often we would tell a customer what to do to do it themselves ( download adaware , spybot , etc ) .
However , when so many customers dont know how to even do that , then our service was of a lot of help to them .
Probably for someone that is reads slashdot , you wont need optimization " service " since you 're techy enough .
There are so many factors of whether it is worth it or not .
So for on a new pc , no .
For tech guru , no .
For grandma that can barely do the basics , probably yes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am not saying it is worth $40 for this service, but I did used to perform this service when I used to work there.
(I believe this service was cheaper then too.
)

Paying for this service on a brand new computer will most likely not be worth the cost since the computer is not loaded with all the crap that most pc users accumulate over time.
Yes, there is a lot of bloatware preloaded, and we would often remove these from startup.
Other then that, that's about all we could do on a new pc.
So, not really worth it for a new pc.
I dont like the results of this test since doing it on a new pc isn't worth it.
When I would do this service on old pcs, most of the time the customer would go home quite happy with their computer.
People get so much junk and adware on their computer, it slows it down considerably, and I would do everything I could to remove it.
The service also depends on who performs the service.
A problem we did face is the software we could use to perform the service.
For a while we would use adaware, spybot search and destroy, etc.
But then we were told we could not use them since they are only free individual consumers, not for corporations.
This made it more complicated, since now we then would have to sell the customer software so we could use it to remove the crap on their pc.
The optimization is often used as a way to upsell to a customer other services, ram upgrades, virus software, virus removal, etc.
Often we would tell a customer what to do to do it themselves (download adaware, spybot, etc).
However, when so many customers dont know how to even do that, then our service was of a lot of help to them.
Probably for someone that is reads slashdot, you wont need optimization "service" since you're techy enough.
There are so many factors of whether it is worth it or not.
So for on a new pc, no.
For tech guru, no.
For grandma that can barely do the basics, probably yes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648180</id>
	<title>Worst Buy</title>
	<author>ducomputergeek</author>
	<datestamp>1262608380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use them only because they have a mini-apple store in the one down where I live.  It's the nearest place that handles any kind of Apple products, which is handy if I need a Mini-DVI to VGA adaptor to hook up to a project or a new powersupply for my MacBook Pro (I seem to break 1 a year.  Doesn't seem to like the drop from my table onto a ceremic tile floor too much).</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use them only because they have a mini-apple store in the one down where I live .
It 's the nearest place that handles any kind of Apple products , which is handy if I need a Mini-DVI to VGA adaptor to hook up to a project or a new powersupply for my MacBook Pro ( I seem to break 1 a year .
Does n't seem to like the drop from my table onto a ceremic tile floor too much ) .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use them only because they have a mini-apple store in the one down where I live.
It's the nearest place that handles any kind of Apple products, which is handy if I need a Mini-DVI to VGA adaptor to hook up to a project or a new powersupply for my MacBook Pro (I seem to break 1 a year.
Doesn't seem to like the drop from my table onto a ceremic tile floor too much).
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648892</id>
	<title>Re:I'll optimize your new PC for free.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262611380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>None of the listed features of CCleaner will have any impact on your system. Deleting temporary files, cache, etc from your hard disk has negligible effect on the responsiveness and performance of your system. Most of the features are a duplicate of the disk cleanup wizard already bundled with Windows.</p><p>PC Decrapifier is also a waste of time. It duplicates the Add/Remove Programs feature of Windows.</p><p>I'm always confused as to why so many Windows "power users" or system administrators buy into the anti-* software scam. It <b>doesn't</b> matter how many applications you have installed on your system. They're not impacting performance just by sitting on your hard disk. It matters how many of those applications are operating in the background while you use your computer.</p><p>At best, optimization and system cleanup tools are redundant and useless. More often than not, they're actually dangerous or counter-productive.</p><p>Think of "memory optimizers" that unload shared libraries from memory while they're not in use. Now you have to pull those libraries back from the disk (very slow) when you want to use them again - all because you have an incorrect assumption that more free memory will result in a faster desktop experience.</p><p>Registry cleaners may remove a few orphaned nodes from the registry, but it's not going to have any noticeable impact. A few thousand registry keys here or there is nothing to be concerned about. By using registry cleaners, you actually risk deleting or modifying keys in the registry that are still in use or have some importance. Backup mechanisms don't work either because your registry may change since the last backup and when you restore the backup, those most recent changes could be lost.</p><p>These two examples only touch on the wide variety of system optimization and cleaning <b>crapware</b> available.</p><p>For most users, all you need to do is use the add/remove programs feature to remove any junk you don't need that harms performance (system tuning tools, anti-* software, software which has useless tray icons, etc). If you need to keep software but wish to prevent it from starting with your computer, use Autoruns by Microsoft (formerly Sysinternals).</p><p>Then of course, good system administration skills also play an important factor. Only use the administrator account when you're doing something that absolutely requires administrator privileges (installing software, etc). Keep your operating system and software updated on a frequent basis. Where you think you need to use a 3rd party system tool, try to find an alternative using just Windows itself or free tools released by Microsoft.</p><p>I've had Windows XP running (admittedly a little slow) on an old 400MHz laptop with just 64MB of RAM. That wasn't a fancy setup - just a vanilla XP install with unwanted features/services of Windows disabled. Had I of installed tuning tools, system cleaners, memory optimizers, etc there would have been no chance in hell that the laptop would be usable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>None of the listed features of CCleaner will have any impact on your system .
Deleting temporary files , cache , etc from your hard disk has negligible effect on the responsiveness and performance of your system .
Most of the features are a duplicate of the disk cleanup wizard already bundled with Windows.PC Decrapifier is also a waste of time .
It duplicates the Add/Remove Programs feature of Windows.I 'm always confused as to why so many Windows " power users " or system administrators buy into the anti- * software scam .
It does n't matter how many applications you have installed on your system .
They 're not impacting performance just by sitting on your hard disk .
It matters how many of those applications are operating in the background while you use your computer.At best , optimization and system cleanup tools are redundant and useless .
More often than not , they 're actually dangerous or counter-productive.Think of " memory optimizers " that unload shared libraries from memory while they 're not in use .
Now you have to pull those libraries back from the disk ( very slow ) when you want to use them again - all because you have an incorrect assumption that more free memory will result in a faster desktop experience.Registry cleaners may remove a few orphaned nodes from the registry , but it 's not going to have any noticeable impact .
A few thousand registry keys here or there is nothing to be concerned about .
By using registry cleaners , you actually risk deleting or modifying keys in the registry that are still in use or have some importance .
Backup mechanisms do n't work either because your registry may change since the last backup and when you restore the backup , those most recent changes could be lost.These two examples only touch on the wide variety of system optimization and cleaning crapware available.For most users , all you need to do is use the add/remove programs feature to remove any junk you do n't need that harms performance ( system tuning tools , anti- * software , software which has useless tray icons , etc ) .
If you need to keep software but wish to prevent it from starting with your computer , use Autoruns by Microsoft ( formerly Sysinternals ) .Then of course , good system administration skills also play an important factor .
Only use the administrator account when you 're doing something that absolutely requires administrator privileges ( installing software , etc ) .
Keep your operating system and software updated on a frequent basis .
Where you think you need to use a 3rd party system tool , try to find an alternative using just Windows itself or free tools released by Microsoft.I 've had Windows XP running ( admittedly a little slow ) on an old 400MHz laptop with just 64MB of RAM .
That was n't a fancy setup - just a vanilla XP install with unwanted features/services of Windows disabled .
Had I of installed tuning tools , system cleaners , memory optimizers , etc there would have been no chance in hell that the laptop would be usable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>None of the listed features of CCleaner will have any impact on your system.
Deleting temporary files, cache, etc from your hard disk has negligible effect on the responsiveness and performance of your system.
Most of the features are a duplicate of the disk cleanup wizard already bundled with Windows.PC Decrapifier is also a waste of time.
It duplicates the Add/Remove Programs feature of Windows.I'm always confused as to why so many Windows "power users" or system administrators buy into the anti-* software scam.
It doesn't matter how many applications you have installed on your system.
They're not impacting performance just by sitting on your hard disk.
It matters how many of those applications are operating in the background while you use your computer.At best, optimization and system cleanup tools are redundant and useless.
More often than not, they're actually dangerous or counter-productive.Think of "memory optimizers" that unload shared libraries from memory while they're not in use.
Now you have to pull those libraries back from the disk (very slow) when you want to use them again - all because you have an incorrect assumption that more free memory will result in a faster desktop experience.Registry cleaners may remove a few orphaned nodes from the registry, but it's not going to have any noticeable impact.
A few thousand registry keys here or there is nothing to be concerned about.
By using registry cleaners, you actually risk deleting or modifying keys in the registry that are still in use or have some importance.
Backup mechanisms don't work either because your registry may change since the last backup and when you restore the backup, those most recent changes could be lost.These two examples only touch on the wide variety of system optimization and cleaning crapware available.For most users, all you need to do is use the add/remove programs feature to remove any junk you don't need that harms performance (system tuning tools, anti-* software, software which has useless tray icons, etc).
If you need to keep software but wish to prevent it from starting with your computer, use Autoruns by Microsoft (formerly Sysinternals).Then of course, good system administration skills also play an important factor.
Only use the administrator account when you're doing something that absolutely requires administrator privileges (installing software, etc).
Keep your operating system and software updated on a frequent basis.
Where you think you need to use a 3rd party system tool, try to find an alternative using just Windows itself or free tools released by Microsoft.I've had Windows XP running (admittedly a little slow) on an old 400MHz laptop with just 64MB of RAM.
That wasn't a fancy setup - just a vanilla XP install with unwanted features/services of Windows disabled.
Had I of installed tuning tools, system cleaners, memory optimizers, etc there would have been no chance in hell that the laptop would be usable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30650392</id>
	<title>Re:Best Buy salesmen</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1262619840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Buying ANYTHING at Best Buy these days is a chore."</p><p>That's why I don't buy there, except for a pack of DVDs now and then. I look at monitors and such, then buy online.</p><p>When salesmen approach, I tell them I'm just killing time while the wife shops elsewhere and they leave me alone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Buying ANYTHING at Best Buy these days is a chore .
" That 's why I do n't buy there , except for a pack of DVDs now and then .
I look at monitors and such , then buy online.When salesmen approach , I tell them I 'm just killing time while the wife shops elsewhere and they leave me alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Buying ANYTHING at Best Buy these days is a chore.
"That's why I don't buy there, except for a pack of DVDs now and then.
I look at monitors and such, then buy online.When salesmen approach, I tell them I'm just killing time while the wife shops elsewhere and they leave me alone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647444</id>
	<title>Re:To be fair...</title>
	<author>Narpak</author>
	<datestamp>1262604780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...of course this is probably a junk "service," but it's unlikely that the reference PCs were bloated with the sort of crap that they MIGHT be removing in the service.
<br> <br>
Sure, they probably update drivers and "set aside" obvious bloatware, but other than that, they can't do anything -- and your reference PCs are probably least likely to get benefit from that, ahem, service.</p></div><p>Running spybot, reg-scan, defragmentation, driver updates; and cleaning out dust (and cat hairs) from the various fans on my parents computer makes it go about 200\% faster once a year!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...of course this is probably a junk " service , " but it 's unlikely that the reference PCs were bloated with the sort of crap that they MIGHT be removing in the service .
Sure , they probably update drivers and " set aside " obvious bloatware , but other than that , they ca n't do anything -- and your reference PCs are probably least likely to get benefit from that , ahem , service.Running spybot , reg-scan , defragmentation , driver updates ; and cleaning out dust ( and cat hairs ) from the various fans on my parents computer makes it go about 200 \ % faster once a year !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...of course this is probably a junk "service," but it's unlikely that the reference PCs were bloated with the sort of crap that they MIGHT be removing in the service.
Sure, they probably update drivers and "set aside" obvious bloatware, but other than that, they can't do anything -- and your reference PCs are probably least likely to get benefit from that, ahem, service.Running spybot, reg-scan, defragmentation, driver updates; and cleaning out dust (and cat hairs) from the various fans on my parents computer makes it go about 200\% faster once a year!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30649350</id>
	<title>Redundant headline</title>
	<author>Minwee</author>
	<datestamp>1262613480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about this?
</p><p>"Best Buy<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... A Waste of Money"
</p><p>That about covers it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about this ?
" Best Buy ... A Waste of Money " That about covers it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about this?
"Best Buy ... A Waste of Money"
That about covers it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646986</id>
	<title>Best Buy salesmen</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1262602920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Buying ANYTHING at Best Buy these days is a chore.</p><p>"No I don't want your optimization plan."<br>"No I don't want an extended warranty."<br>"No I don't want any accessories."<br>"No I don't want the super awesome $50 Monster Cables with gold tips."<br>"No I don't want your PlatinumShield super-dupper service plan."</p><p>What's bad is when you get a salesman who wants to argue with you. "But you need our service plan!!" Sometimes I just want to throttle these guys. If there was another place I could get computer parts and electronics locally (for times when waiting three or four days for Newegg isn't an option) I would never set foot inside their doors. A few weeks ago I had pushy BB salesmen try to sell me a warranty plan on a $20 card reader, for crying out loud.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Buying ANYTHING at Best Buy these days is a chore .
" No I do n't want your optimization plan .
" " No I do n't want an extended warranty .
" " No I do n't want any accessories .
" " No I do n't want the super awesome $ 50 Monster Cables with gold tips .
" " No I do n't want your PlatinumShield super-dupper service plan .
" What 's bad is when you get a salesman who wants to argue with you .
" But you need our service plan ! !
" Sometimes I just want to throttle these guys .
If there was another place I could get computer parts and electronics locally ( for times when waiting three or four days for Newegg is n't an option ) I would never set foot inside their doors .
A few weeks ago I had pushy BB salesmen try to sell me a warranty plan on a $ 20 card reader , for crying out loud .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Buying ANYTHING at Best Buy these days is a chore.
"No I don't want your optimization plan.
""No I don't want an extended warranty.
""No I don't want any accessories.
""No I don't want the super awesome $50 Monster Cables with gold tips.
""No I don't want your PlatinumShield super-dupper service plan.
"What's bad is when you get a salesman who wants to argue with you.
"But you need our service plan!!
" Sometimes I just want to throttle these guys.
If there was another place I could get computer parts and electronics locally (for times when waiting three or four days for Newegg isn't an option) I would never set foot inside their doors.
A few weeks ago I had pushy BB salesmen try to sell me a warranty plan on a $20 card reader, for crying out loud.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648568</id>
	<title>Re:As someone who worked at Best Buy/Geek Squad...</title>
	<author>kaatochacha</author>
	<datestamp>1262610060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"someone to yell at if it wasn't done"
I really, really dislike this attitude.
I'll add another really to make it clear.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" someone to yell at if it was n't done " I really , really dislike this attitude .
I 'll add another really to make it clear .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"someone to yell at if it wasn't done"
I really, really dislike this attitude.
I'll add another really to make it clear.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646738</id>
	<title>And they seemed so honest.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262601900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow.  I don't know how I can possibly reconcile this anomalous data point with all of the other things I've heard about them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow .
I do n't know how I can possibly reconcile this anomalous data point with all of the other things I 've heard about them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow.
I don't know how I can possibly reconcile this anomalous data point with all of the other things I've heard about them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646894</id>
	<title>Re:As an advanced user, this does not bother me!</title>
	<author>benro03</author>
	<datestamp>1262602500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, but as an advanced user (I design SAN and NAS stuff) it insults me when they try and talk past me.  When I buy a piece of electronics I've usually researched it to death and just want the salesman to get the box and ring it up for me; that's all.  I've lost count of how many times these bogus "PC experts" have tried to blow smoke up my butt and impress me.  Usually all it takes is telling them, "Fine.  I'm on my way to Microcenter / Fry's," and they suddenly are able to sell me what I want.</p><p>The worst thing you can do to them is walk out, buy someplace else, and TELL THEM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , but as an advanced user ( I design SAN and NAS stuff ) it insults me when they try and talk past me .
When I buy a piece of electronics I 've usually researched it to death and just want the salesman to get the box and ring it up for me ; that 's all .
I 've lost count of how many times these bogus " PC experts " have tried to blow smoke up my butt and impress me .
Usually all it takes is telling them , " Fine .
I 'm on my way to Microcenter / Fry 's , " and they suddenly are able to sell me what I want.The worst thing you can do to them is walk out , buy someplace else , and TELL THEM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, but as an advanced user (I design SAN and NAS stuff) it insults me when they try and talk past me.
When I buy a piece of electronics I've usually researched it to death and just want the salesman to get the box and ring it up for me; that's all.
I've lost count of how many times these bogus "PC experts" have tried to blow smoke up my butt and impress me.
Usually all it takes is telling them, "Fine.
I'm on my way to Microcenter / Fry's," and they suddenly are able to sell me what I want.The worst thing you can do to them is walk out, buy someplace else, and TELL THEM.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647920</id>
	<title>Re:Staples</title>
	<author>langelgjm</author>
	<datestamp>1262606940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We run a norton toolkit scan, meaning "find out if we can push a virus removal service (129.99),"</p> </div><p>Over the holiday, I took a look at a family member's netbook running Windows XP. He told me it had a virus. Turned out to be multiple viruses, including a really nasty rootkit. Took me the better part of a day to fix it up; Trend micro's sysclean along with ComboFix finally did the trick. I think the time and effort spent was probably worth about that much<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We run a norton toolkit scan , meaning " find out if we can push a virus removal service ( 129.99 ) , " Over the holiday , I took a look at a family member 's netbook running Windows XP .
He told me it had a virus .
Turned out to be multiple viruses , including a really nasty rootkit .
Took me the better part of a day to fix it up ; Trend micro 's sysclean along with ComboFix finally did the trick .
I think the time and effort spent was probably worth about that much : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We run a norton toolkit scan, meaning "find out if we can push a virus removal service (129.99)," Over the holiday, I took a look at a family member's netbook running Windows XP.
He told me it had a virus.
Turned out to be multiple viruses, including a really nasty rootkit.
Took me the better part of a day to fix it up; Trend micro's sysclean along with ComboFix finally did the trick.
I think the time and effort spent was probably worth about that much :-)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30650100</id>
	<title>Former Best Buy tech ...</title>
	<author>Alan426</author>
	<datestamp>1262617980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I used to run an in-store tech department, back in the day when we wore black shirts and were "Techs" not "Geeks."  I never had a moment's pause about selling my customer a $9.99 set-up service or $29.99 optimization.  We gave a good service for the money, and spent quite a bit of time helping the customer learn a bit about their new computer.  Which, for them, was a very big deal.
<br> <br>
The customer was paying for 10 minutes of my time -- and the 15+ years of experience that let me do a job in 10 minutes that would have taken them four hours of reading directions and waiting on hold.
<br> <br>
The biggest mistake is assuming a service isn't worth good money to the general public just because it's easy and fun for you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to run an in-store tech department , back in the day when we wore black shirts and were " Techs " not " Geeks .
" I never had a moment 's pause about selling my customer a $ 9.99 set-up service or $ 29.99 optimization .
We gave a good service for the money , and spent quite a bit of time helping the customer learn a bit about their new computer .
Which , for them , was a very big deal .
The customer was paying for 10 minutes of my time -- and the 15 + years of experience that let me do a job in 10 minutes that would have taken them four hours of reading directions and waiting on hold .
The biggest mistake is assuming a service is n't worth good money to the general public just because it 's easy and fun for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to run an in-store tech department, back in the day when we wore black shirts and were "Techs" not "Geeks.
"  I never had a moment's pause about selling my customer a $9.99 set-up service or $29.99 optimization.
We gave a good service for the money, and spent quite a bit of time helping the customer learn a bit about their new computer.
Which, for them, was a very big deal.
The customer was paying for 10 minutes of my time -- and the 15+ years of experience that let me do a job in 10 minutes that would have taken them four hours of reading directions and waiting on hold.
The biggest mistake is assuming a service isn't worth good money to the general public just because it's easy and fun for you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647362</id>
	<title>My own DIY optimization</title>
	<author>louden obscure</author>
	<datestamp>1262604480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Two years ago I bought a computer from Best Buy because at times they offer 0\% financing and my 1 Ghz Athlon Thunderbird based PC was showing it's age, taking forever to two pass encode xvids.  Got a dual core AMD and made sure it had an nvidia graphics chip.  Got it home, and wired it up.  it came loaded with vista.  Installed Imgburn and downloaded the debian netinst iso image.  Burned the image to a disc, rebooted and installed debian over vista.  Why would anyone pay 40 bucks over and above what was just spent and still have Windows installed?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Two years ago I bought a computer from Best Buy because at times they offer 0 \ % financing and my 1 Ghz Athlon Thunderbird based PC was showing it 's age , taking forever to two pass encode xvids .
Got a dual core AMD and made sure it had an nvidia graphics chip .
Got it home , and wired it up .
it came loaded with vista .
Installed Imgburn and downloaded the debian netinst iso image .
Burned the image to a disc , rebooted and installed debian over vista .
Why would anyone pay 40 bucks over and above what was just spent and still have Windows installed ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two years ago I bought a computer from Best Buy because at times they offer 0\% financing and my 1 Ghz Athlon Thunderbird based PC was showing it's age, taking forever to two pass encode xvids.
Got a dual core AMD and made sure it had an nvidia graphics chip.
Got it home, and wired it up.
it came loaded with vista.
Installed Imgburn and downloaded the debian netinst iso image.
Burned the image to a disc, rebooted and installed debian over vista.
Why would anyone pay 40 bucks over and above what was just spent and still have Windows installed?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30650672</id>
	<title>Flawwed testing methodology</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1262622120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
3DMark is not a test of average desktop use profile.
</p><p>
I think it would be far more interesting to do a double-blind study, on users utilizing real-world applications, and determine speed difference for actual apps.
</p><p>
Or even, just use a benchmark that tests Office/Desktop apps, instead of just 3D/GPU performance.
</p><p>
Also, interesting would be to 'image' the system before taking it to be optimized...
</p><p>
Then image it again.
</p><p>
Do a complete comparison to determine exactly what was changed during the "optimization"
</p><p>
Registry settings, files, etc.
</p><p>
Determine if any changes were actually made, then go and investigate the merits of each change, with benchmarks taylored to highhlight any effects that change might have
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>3DMark is not a test of average desktop use profile .
I think it would be far more interesting to do a double-blind study , on users utilizing real-world applications , and determine speed difference for actual apps .
Or even , just use a benchmark that tests Office/Desktop apps , instead of just 3D/GPU performance .
Also , interesting would be to 'image ' the system before taking it to be optimized.. . Then image it again .
Do a complete comparison to determine exactly what was changed during the " optimization " Registry settings , files , etc .
Determine if any changes were actually made , then go and investigate the merits of each change , with benchmarks taylored to highhlight any effects that change might have</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
3DMark is not a test of average desktop use profile.
I think it would be far more interesting to do a double-blind study, on users utilizing real-world applications, and determine speed difference for actual apps.
Or even, just use a benchmark that tests Office/Desktop apps, instead of just 3D/GPU performance.
Also, interesting would be to 'image' the system before taking it to be optimized...

Then image it again.
Do a complete comparison to determine exactly what was changed during the "optimization"

Registry settings, files, etc.
Determine if any changes were actually made, then go and investigate the merits of each change, with benchmarks taylored to highhlight any effects that change might have
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30662392</id>
	<title>Re:If they don't ask, they get fired.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262693700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't give a fuck if they ask, provided they can take no for an answer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't give a fuck if they ask , provided they can take no for an answer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't give a fuck if they ask, provided they can take no for an answer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646748</id>
	<title>Who buys a computer from best buy?</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1262601900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anybody who buys a computer from Best Buy instead of going to Newegg or TigerDirect probably deserves exactly what they get.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anybody who buys a computer from Best Buy instead of going to Newegg or TigerDirect probably deserves exactly what they get .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anybody who buys a computer from Best Buy instead of going to Newegg or TigerDirect probably deserves exactly what they get.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30654060</id>
	<title>Not quite a scam</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1262702940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The scam is in the time saved when you bring it back and they just reload all the copied files back unto your pc from a copy they made, and then keep doing that as part of the garantee is it will always run fast or bring it back to us free of charge. They tweak it a bit, making sure no malware exists, then they clone it.</p><p>I am sure the time saved is more on their end then yours, as you are an incompetent clod who can't even figure out how to configure your own pc, let alone figure out how to make backups for yourself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The scam is in the time saved when you bring it back and they just reload all the copied files back unto your pc from a copy they made , and then keep doing that as part of the garantee is it will always run fast or bring it back to us free of charge .
They tweak it a bit , making sure no malware exists , then they clone it.I am sure the time saved is more on their end then yours , as you are an incompetent clod who ca n't even figure out how to configure your own pc , let alone figure out how to make backups for yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The scam is in the time saved when you bring it back and they just reload all the copied files back unto your pc from a copy they made, and then keep doing that as part of the garantee is it will always run fast or bring it back to us free of charge.
They tweak it a bit, making sure no malware exists, then they clone it.I am sure the time saved is more on their end then yours, as you are an incompetent clod who can't even figure out how to configure your own pc, let alone figure out how to make backups for yourself.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646768</id>
	<title>Stock Windows?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262602020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How much do you have to pay for stock OEM windows? Because whenever I optimize a computer, it mostly involves removing the shoddy always-on software installed by the manufacturer / Best Buy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How much do you have to pay for stock OEM windows ?
Because whenever I optimize a computer , it mostly involves removing the shoddy always-on software installed by the manufacturer / Best Buy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much do you have to pay for stock OEM windows?
Because whenever I optimize a computer, it mostly involves removing the shoddy always-on software installed by the manufacturer / Best Buy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30648944</id>
	<title>Re:System tuning...</title>
	<author>epp\_b</author>
	<datestamp>1262611620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If you want to tune it further, try changing your performance settings to "Optimize for best performance" or whatever the equivalent is in Windows 7</p></div></blockquote><p>
Personally, I find that simply switching off the fisher price UI in XP makes one the biggest differences of all.  Not sure what difference it makes in Windows 7, but I imagine it's quite significant, judging by the bloated hog that is Aero Glass.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want to tune it further , try changing your performance settings to " Optimize for best performance " or whatever the equivalent is in Windows 7 Personally , I find that simply switching off the fisher price UI in XP makes one the biggest differences of all .
Not sure what difference it makes in Windows 7 , but I imagine it 's quite significant , judging by the bloated hog that is Aero Glass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want to tune it further, try changing your performance settings to "Optimize for best performance" or whatever the equivalent is in Windows 7
Personally, I find that simply switching off the fisher price UI in XP makes one the biggest differences of all.
Not sure what difference it makes in Windows 7, but I imagine it's quite significant, judging by the bloated hog that is Aero Glass.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647556</id>
	<title>Bait &amp; switch</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262605260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is just a thinly disguised trick to get around bait &amp; switch laws.<br>Advertising computers for a low price then only having the exact same computer in stock for $40 more.<br>Unless they can demonstrate that the "pre-optimization" actually does anything to justify the $40 premium, they are advertising falsely.<br>I have little doubt a court case would find Best Buy guilty of illegal business practices in this case.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is just a thinly disguised trick to get around bait &amp; switch laws.Advertising computers for a low price then only having the exact same computer in stock for $ 40 more.Unless they can demonstrate that the " pre-optimization " actually does anything to justify the $ 40 premium , they are advertising falsely.I have little doubt a court case would find Best Buy guilty of illegal business practices in this case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is just a thinly disguised trick to get around bait &amp; switch laws.Advertising computers for a low price then only having the exact same computer in stock for $40 more.Unless they can demonstrate that the "pre-optimization" actually does anything to justify the $40 premium, they are advertising falsely.I have little doubt a court case would find Best Buy guilty of illegal business practices in this case.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647024</id>
	<title>Re:System tuning...</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1262602980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Can you remember when system tuning was part of the sysadmin's job?</p></div><p>Yeah, back when computers were so slow that they really needed tuning.
</p><p>Now?  Let's be honest, your computer will probably run best if you just don't screw around with it.  You want your Windows system "tuned"?  Reformat the drive, reinstall Windows, install the latest version of all appropriate drivers, run Windows update, and then install *only* the applications that you're going to use.  That's about as "tuned" as most people need.
</p><p>If you want to tune it further, try changing your performance settings to "Optimize for best performance" or whatever the equivalent is in Windows 7.  It'll look a bit worse, but it may improve performance a little.  Yes, you might also be able to disable some services and squeeze out a couple extra cycles, but how much does it matter these days?  You're much more likely to break something than to effect significant performance improvements.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you remember when system tuning was part of the sysadmin 's job ? Yeah , back when computers were so slow that they really needed tuning .
Now ? Let 's be honest , your computer will probably run best if you just do n't screw around with it .
You want your Windows system " tuned " ?
Reformat the drive , reinstall Windows , install the latest version of all appropriate drivers , run Windows update , and then install * only * the applications that you 're going to use .
That 's about as " tuned " as most people need .
If you want to tune it further , try changing your performance settings to " Optimize for best performance " or whatever the equivalent is in Windows 7 .
It 'll look a bit worse , but it may improve performance a little .
Yes , you might also be able to disable some services and squeeze out a couple extra cycles , but how much does it matter these days ?
You 're much more likely to break something than to effect significant performance improvements .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you remember when system tuning was part of the sysadmin's job?Yeah, back when computers were so slow that they really needed tuning.
Now?  Let's be honest, your computer will probably run best if you just don't screw around with it.
You want your Windows system "tuned"?
Reformat the drive, reinstall Windows, install the latest version of all appropriate drivers, run Windows update, and then install *only* the applications that you're going to use.
That's about as "tuned" as most people need.
If you want to tune it further, try changing your performance settings to "Optimize for best performance" or whatever the equivalent is in Windows 7.
It'll look a bit worse, but it may improve performance a little.
Yes, you might also be able to disable some services and squeeze out a couple extra cycles, but how much does it matter these days?
You're much more likely to break something than to effect significant performance improvements.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30647396</id>
	<title>Simple fix</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1262604600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just edit the Windows registry and set BUGS=OFF</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just edit the Windows registry and set BUGS = OFF</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just edit the Windows registry and set BUGS=OFF</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30649654</id>
	<title>Re:Staples</title>
	<author>n dot l</author>
	<datestamp>1262615220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Heh. I used to sell computers at Staples, and do tuneups there. S' been almost ten years since but things were the same back then. Ridiculous ripoff.</p><p>After a while it got really, really depressing watching the idiocy, and listening to the manager's schemes to exploit it better (did your store ever push the $5.99 ESP replacement plans on people buying mice or calculators with the promise that they could just come in with it and get a brand new unit when the old one naturally wore out? that was a classic at our store).</p><p>I transferred into the office furniture department after a year of putting up with customers coming in confused and angry because they had been (or feared they were being) ripped off. It was much better. It was actually possible to build a rapport with the customer, find out what they actually need, and help them get it, rather than trying to trick them into buying extra cables, and taking shit from management if you don't get them to buy enough.</p><p>Sometimes, though, people <i>want</i> to be ripped off. I remember in early 2001 an angry old man walked in demanding I sell him a Telus internet startup disk. Yeah, that's right, the little old disks you'd get in 1995 with a web browser on them and a little app to create the dialup connection and put a link to it on your desktop (he'd signed up for ADSL, had received his package from the phone co, and apparently decided he had to buy the disk since there wasn't one in the box). After fifteen minutes of trying to explain that he doesn't need to buy anything extra, and all he has to do is follow the instructions in the little booklet they'd given him, I finally caved in and sold him a scratched up old one I dug out of the back for $10 on a tech center SKU.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Heh .
I used to sell computers at Staples , and do tuneups there .
S ' been almost ten years since but things were the same back then .
Ridiculous ripoff.After a while it got really , really depressing watching the idiocy , and listening to the manager 's schemes to exploit it better ( did your store ever push the $ 5.99 ESP replacement plans on people buying mice or calculators with the promise that they could just come in with it and get a brand new unit when the old one naturally wore out ?
that was a classic at our store ) .I transferred into the office furniture department after a year of putting up with customers coming in confused and angry because they had been ( or feared they were being ) ripped off .
It was much better .
It was actually possible to build a rapport with the customer , find out what they actually need , and help them get it , rather than trying to trick them into buying extra cables , and taking shit from management if you do n't get them to buy enough.Sometimes , though , people want to be ripped off .
I remember in early 2001 an angry old man walked in demanding I sell him a Telus internet startup disk .
Yeah , that 's right , the little old disks you 'd get in 1995 with a web browser on them and a little app to create the dialup connection and put a link to it on your desktop ( he 'd signed up for ADSL , had received his package from the phone co , and apparently decided he had to buy the disk since there was n't one in the box ) .
After fifteen minutes of trying to explain that he does n't need to buy anything extra , and all he has to do is follow the instructions in the little booklet they 'd given him , I finally caved in and sold him a scratched up old one I dug out of the back for $ 10 on a tech center SKU .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heh.
I used to sell computers at Staples, and do tuneups there.
S' been almost ten years since but things were the same back then.
Ridiculous ripoff.After a while it got really, really depressing watching the idiocy, and listening to the manager's schemes to exploit it better (did your store ever push the $5.99 ESP replacement plans on people buying mice or calculators with the promise that they could just come in with it and get a brand new unit when the old one naturally wore out?
that was a classic at our store).I transferred into the office furniture department after a year of putting up with customers coming in confused and angry because they had been (or feared they were being) ripped off.
It was much better.
It was actually possible to build a rapport with the customer, find out what they actually need, and help them get it, rather than trying to trick them into buying extra cables, and taking shit from management if you don't get them to buy enough.Sometimes, though, people want to be ripped off.
I remember in early 2001 an angry old man walked in demanding I sell him a Telus internet startup disk.
Yeah, that's right, the little old disks you'd get in 1995 with a web browser on them and a little app to create the dialup connection and put a link to it on your desktop (he'd signed up for ADSL, had received his package from the phone co, and apparently decided he had to buy the disk since there wasn't one in the box).
After fifteen minutes of trying to explain that he doesn't need to buy anything extra, and all he has to do is follow the instructions in the little booklet they'd given him, I finally caved in and sold him a scratched up old one I dug out of the back for $10 on a tech center SKU.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646866</id>
	<title>Inconceivable!!</title>
	<author>yurtinus</author>
	<datestamp>1262602380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just don't believe it. That sounds like something CompUSA would do!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just do n't believe it .
That sounds like something CompUSA would do !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just don't believe it.
That sounds like something CompUSA would do!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30646944</id>
	<title>Re:As someone who worked at Best Buy/Geek Squad...</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1262602740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Buying ANYTHING at Best Buy these days is a chore.</p><p>"No I don't want your optimaization plan."<br>"No I don't want an extended warranty."<br>"No I don't want any accessories."<br>"No I don't want the super awesome $50 Monster Cables with gold tips."<br>"No I don't want your PlatinumShield super-dupper service plan."</p><p>What's bad is when you get a salesman who wants to argue with you. "But you need our service plan!!" Sometimes I just want to throttle these guys. If there was another place I could get computer parts and electronics locally (for times when waiting three or four days for Newegg isn't an option) I would never set foot inside their doors. A few weeks ago I had pushy BB salesmen try to sell me a warranty plans on a $20 card reader, for crying out loud.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Buying ANYTHING at Best Buy these days is a chore .
" No I do n't want your optimaization plan .
" " No I do n't want an extended warranty .
" " No I do n't want any accessories .
" " No I do n't want the super awesome $ 50 Monster Cables with gold tips .
" " No I do n't want your PlatinumShield super-dupper service plan .
" What 's bad is when you get a salesman who wants to argue with you .
" But you need our service plan ! !
" Sometimes I just want to throttle these guys .
If there was another place I could get computer parts and electronics locally ( for times when waiting three or four days for Newegg is n't an option ) I would never set foot inside their doors .
A few weeks ago I had pushy BB salesmen try to sell me a warranty plans on a $ 20 card reader , for crying out loud .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Buying ANYTHING at Best Buy these days is a chore.
"No I don't want your optimaization plan.
""No I don't want an extended warranty.
""No I don't want any accessories.
""No I don't want the super awesome $50 Monster Cables with gold tips.
""No I don't want your PlatinumShield super-dupper service plan.
"What's bad is when you get a salesman who wants to argue with you.
"But you need our service plan!!
" Sometimes I just want to throttle these guys.
If there was another place I could get computer parts and electronics locally (for times when waiting three or four days for Newegg isn't an option) I would never set foot inside their doors.
A few weeks ago I had pushy BB salesmen try to sell me a warranty plans on a $20 card reader, for crying out loud.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1947253.30650882</id>
	<title>Re:Best Buy salesmen</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1262623620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>If there was another place I could get computer parts and electronics locally</i></p><p>There isn't?</p><p>Where the hell do you live, some post-apocalypse Mad Max future?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If there was another place I could get computer parts and electronics locallyThere is n't ? Where the hell do you live , some post-apocalypse Mad Max future ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there was another place I could get computer parts and electronics locallyThere isn't?Where the hell do you live, some post-apocalypse Mad Max future?</sentencetext>
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