<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_03_2241248</id>
	<title>Bono Hopes Content Tracking Will Help Media Moguls</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1262515560000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://baheyeldin.com/" rel="nofollow">Khalid Baheyeldin</a> writes <i>"In his New York Times op-ed column, Irish singer Bono, otherwise noted for his  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bono#Humanitarian\_work">humanitarian efforts</a> <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/03/opinion/03bono.html">expressed dismay at losses music artists incur from internet downloads</a>. He notes that 'we know from America's noble effort to stop child pornography, not to mention China's ignoble effort to suppress online dissent, that it's perfectly possible to track content.' He then goes on to  wonder 'perhaps movie moguls will succeed where musicians and their moguls have failed so far, and rally America to defend the most creative economy in the world, where music, film, TV and video games help to account for nearly 4 percent of gross domestic product.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Khalid Baheyeldin writes " In his New York Times op-ed column , Irish singer Bono , otherwise noted for his humanitarian efforts expressed dismay at losses music artists incur from internet downloads .
He notes that 'we know from America 's noble effort to stop child pornography , not to mention China 's ignoble effort to suppress online dissent , that it 's perfectly possible to track content .
' He then goes on to wonder 'perhaps movie moguls will succeed where musicians and their moguls have failed so far , and rally America to defend the most creative economy in the world , where music , film , TV and video games help to account for nearly 4 percent of gross domestic product .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Khalid Baheyeldin writes "In his New York Times op-ed column, Irish singer Bono, otherwise noted for his  humanitarian efforts expressed dismay at losses music artists incur from internet downloads.
He notes that 'we know from America's noble effort to stop child pornography, not to mention China's ignoble effort to suppress online dissent, that it's perfectly possible to track content.
' He then goes on to  wonder 'perhaps movie moguls will succeed where musicians and their moguls have failed so far, and rally America to defend the most creative economy in the world, where music, film, TV and video games help to account for nearly 4 percent of gross domestic product.
'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637738</id>
	<title>BONOSNOB</title>
	<author>METAK RAMAH</author>
	<datestamp>1262542980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>i think bono is just another illuminati puppet.

and i don't like him, he's such a snob.</htmltext>
<tokenext>i think bono is just another illuminati puppet .
and i do n't like him , he 's such a snob .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i think bono is just another illuminati puppet.
and i don't like him, he's such a snob.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637338</id>
	<title>Too bad, U2 Loses</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262538180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dear Bono,

I have been a U2 fan for many years and have purchased all of your albums. Unfortunately, your short-sighted view of downloading music over the internet means that you have lost me forever as a fan and purchaser of your "product". If you change your attitude I may reconsider, but at this point you have one less fan.

Sincerely, and voting with my wallet,

A Former Fan of U2</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear Bono , I have been a U2 fan for many years and have purchased all of your albums .
Unfortunately , your short-sighted view of downloading music over the internet means that you have lost me forever as a fan and purchaser of your " product " .
If you change your attitude I may reconsider , but at this point you have one less fan .
Sincerely , and voting with my wallet , A Former Fan of U2</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear Bono,

I have been a U2 fan for many years and have purchased all of your albums.
Unfortunately, your short-sighted view of downloading music over the internet means that you have lost me forever as a fan and purchaser of your "product".
If you change your attitude I may reconsider, but at this point you have one less fan.
Sincerely, and voting with my wallet,

A Former Fan of U2</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636854</id>
	<title>This sounds familiar</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1262533140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We had to destroy the village to save it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We had to destroy the village to save it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We had to destroy the village to save it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635968</id>
	<title>Re:Either he doesn't get it, or he doesn't care...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262525640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Online violation of copyright law is probably about as popular as ordinary pornography</p></div><p>I'd say much *more* popular, given that a notable amount of the copyrighted material being shared *is* porn.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Online violation of copyright law is probably about as popular as ordinary pornographyI 'd say much * more * popular , given that a notable amount of the copyrighted material being shared * is * porn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Online violation of copyright law is probably about as popular as ordinary pornographyI'd say much *more* popular, given that a notable amount of the copyrighted material being shared *is* porn.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635876</id>
	<title>Correction</title>
	<author>metamatic</author>
	<datestamp>1262525100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"losses music artists incur from internet downloads"</p><p>Music artists don't incur losses from Internet downloads. Rather, they <i>fail</i> to incur <i>profits</i>.</p><p>There's an important difference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" losses music artists incur from internet downloads " Music artists do n't incur losses from Internet downloads .
Rather , they fail to incur profits.There 's an important difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"losses music artists incur from internet downloads"Music artists don't incur losses from Internet downloads.
Rather, they fail to incur profits.There's an important difference.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635954</id>
	<title>Shut your face, Bono</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262525580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Shut your face, Bono.  If you are against me getting free stuff, then you SUCK.  Your music sucks!  Your humanitarian efforts SUCK!  Your family SUCKS!  Everything about you sucks! sucks! sucks!  Everything about you SUCKS unless you support me getting free stuff.  And Bono is ugly.  Bono's a dick.</p><p>There, did I sum-up the response of the average Slashdoter on this thread?  No need for anyone else to comment on this thread.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Shut your face , Bono .
If you are against me getting free stuff , then you SUCK .
Your music sucks !
Your humanitarian efforts SUCK !
Your family SUCKS !
Everything about you sucks !
sucks ! sucks !
Everything about you SUCKS unless you support me getting free stuff .
And Bono is ugly .
Bono 's a dick.There , did I sum-up the response of the average Slashdoter on this thread ?
No need for anyone else to comment on this thread .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shut your face, Bono.
If you are against me getting free stuff, then you SUCK.
Your music sucks!
Your humanitarian efforts SUCK!
Your family SUCKS!
Everything about you sucks!
sucks! sucks!
Everything about you SUCKS unless you support me getting free stuff.
And Bono is ugly.
Bono's a dick.There, did I sum-up the response of the average Slashdoter on this thread?
No need for anyone else to comment on this thread.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636448</id>
	<title>"...Most Creative..."?!?!</title>
	<author>meerling</author>
	<datestamp>1262529300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"perhaps movie moguls will succeed where musicians and their moguls have failed so far, and rally America to defend the most creative economy in the world..."<br><br>WTF?!?!<br><br>Hasn't that idiot actually watched any of the crap that's been churned out in the past decade or so?  It's mostly remakes, reboots, or just plain derivative.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" perhaps movie moguls will succeed where musicians and their moguls have failed so far , and rally America to defend the most creative economy in the world... " WTF ? ! ?
! Has n't that idiot actually watched any of the crap that 's been churned out in the past decade or so ?
It 's mostly remakes , reboots , or just plain derivative .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"perhaps movie moguls will succeed where musicians and their moguls have failed so far, and rally America to defend the most creative economy in the world..."WTF?!?
!Hasn't that idiot actually watched any of the crap that's been churned out in the past decade or so?
It's mostly remakes, reboots, or just plain derivative.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635100</id>
	<title>Yea right...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262519580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Good luck with making us "Americans" rally against that dude.  Does he not realize that if it's not gay marriage, guns, abortion, healthcare, or bail out money, that we really don't give a shit?  (BTW, I'm downloading avatar as I type this, long live torrents)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good luck with making us " Americans " rally against that dude .
Does he not realize that if it 's not gay marriage , guns , abortion , healthcare , or bail out money , that we really do n't give a shit ?
( BTW , I 'm downloading avatar as I type this , long live torrents )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good luck with making us "Americans" rally against that dude.
Does he not realize that if it's not gay marriage, guns, abortion, healthcare, or bail out money, that we really don't give a shit?
(BTW, I'm downloading avatar as I type this, long live torrents)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635180</id>
	<title>Either he doesn't get it, or he doesn't care...</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1262520120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>He managed to choose two analogies. One poor, the other extremely sinister.<br> <br>

Kiddie porn: A terrible analogy for online copyright infringement. Child pornography, possession or production, is <i>always</i> illegal. No "fair use", no parodies, no commentaries, no educational purposes, etc. Plus, it isn't all that popular. Online violation of copyright law is probably about as popular as ordinary pornography, not some obscure niche thing. In terms of police resources per unit kiddie porn, the porn is <i>vastly</i> more heavily policed(and, given the number of times that a computer search of somebody suspected for other reasons will discover some kiddie porn, it looks like our "content tracking" efforts aren't actually doing so well).<br> <br>

Great Firewall of China: Chinese "content tracking" is a huge(and probably fairly expensive) initiative, encompassing a substantial state censorship apparatus, a large amount of technical infrastructure, huge market distortions(notably, the enthusiasm for self-censorship among web companies that is created by the state's ability to just eliminate access to any of them, at any time, without comment or justification), and substantial support from private-citizen snitches.<br> <br>

Either Bono is just a fucktard, and hasn't really though this through, or he is willing to go to some <i>very</i> unpleasant places to protect his precious "content".</htmltext>
<tokenext>He managed to choose two analogies .
One poor , the other extremely sinister .
Kiddie porn : A terrible analogy for online copyright infringement .
Child pornography , possession or production , is always illegal .
No " fair use " , no parodies , no commentaries , no educational purposes , etc .
Plus , it is n't all that popular .
Online violation of copyright law is probably about as popular as ordinary pornography , not some obscure niche thing .
In terms of police resources per unit kiddie porn , the porn is vastly more heavily policed ( and , given the number of times that a computer search of somebody suspected for other reasons will discover some kiddie porn , it looks like our " content tracking " efforts are n't actually doing so well ) .
Great Firewall of China : Chinese " content tracking " is a huge ( and probably fairly expensive ) initiative , encompassing a substantial state censorship apparatus , a large amount of technical infrastructure , huge market distortions ( notably , the enthusiasm for self-censorship among web companies that is created by the state 's ability to just eliminate access to any of them , at any time , without comment or justification ) , and substantial support from private-citizen snitches .
Either Bono is just a fucktard , and has n't really though this through , or he is willing to go to some very unpleasant places to protect his precious " content " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He managed to choose two analogies.
One poor, the other extremely sinister.
Kiddie porn: A terrible analogy for online copyright infringement.
Child pornography, possession or production, is always illegal.
No "fair use", no parodies, no commentaries, no educational purposes, etc.
Plus, it isn't all that popular.
Online violation of copyright law is probably about as popular as ordinary pornography, not some obscure niche thing.
In terms of police resources per unit kiddie porn, the porn is vastly more heavily policed(and, given the number of times that a computer search of somebody suspected for other reasons will discover some kiddie porn, it looks like our "content tracking" efforts aren't actually doing so well).
Great Firewall of China: Chinese "content tracking" is a huge(and probably fairly expensive) initiative, encompassing a substantial state censorship apparatus, a large amount of technical infrastructure, huge market distortions(notably, the enthusiasm for self-censorship among web companies that is created by the state's ability to just eliminate access to any of them, at any time, without comment or justification), and substantial support from private-citizen snitches.
Either Bono is just a fucktard, and hasn't really though this through, or he is willing to go to some very unpleasant places to protect his precious "content".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637490</id>
	<title>Re:If this is what it takes to save music...</title>
	<author>hughperkins</author>
	<datestamp>1262539740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think what you just said is the best argument in favor of piracy that I've seen: not that artists can survive in the presence of piracy, but if it takes draconian legislation and enforcement to ensure their survival, do we really want it?</p><p>Seriously, Britney Spears is cool and all, but is it really worth reducing our general freedoms and stuff to protect her ability to make lots of money?</p><p>There are plenty of local bands who are willing to sing in the local pub on a for-fun amateur basis.  They're not Britney, but they're fun to listen to, and you may even meet some cute rock chick while you're there watching.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think what you just said is the best argument in favor of piracy that I 've seen : not that artists can survive in the presence of piracy , but if it takes draconian legislation and enforcement to ensure their survival , do we really want it ? Seriously , Britney Spears is cool and all , but is it really worth reducing our general freedoms and stuff to protect her ability to make lots of money ? There are plenty of local bands who are willing to sing in the local pub on a for-fun amateur basis .
They 're not Britney , but they 're fun to listen to , and you may even meet some cute rock chick while you 're there watching .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think what you just said is the best argument in favor of piracy that I've seen: not that artists can survive in the presence of piracy, but if it takes draconian legislation and enforcement to ensure their survival, do we really want it?Seriously, Britney Spears is cool and all, but is it really worth reducing our general freedoms and stuff to protect her ability to make lots of money?There are plenty of local bands who are willing to sing in the local pub on a for-fun amateur basis.
They're not Britney, but they're fun to listen to, and you may even meet some cute rock chick while you're there watching.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635386</id>
	<title>Second that.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262521320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This asshole is only interested in His Royalties, he is Bog Stupid and (dosnt understand / cares nothing) for Culture.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This asshole is only interested in His Royalties , he is Bog Stupid and ( dosnt understand / cares nothing ) for Culture .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This asshole is only interested in His Royalties, he is Bog Stupid and (dosnt understand / cares nothing) for Culture.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635070</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636010</id>
	<title>Re:Bono is an idiot...</title>
	<author>phantomfive</author>
	<datestamp>1262526060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does he not see that these treaties signed with underdeveloped nations to help them "defend" American businesses against "piracy" and patent infringement is exactly what is keeping them behind?</p></div><p>Really? You don't think it's the lack of education, lack of infrastructure, over-reliance on subsistence farming, and the general lack of business knowledge? Try to find a CEO in El Salvador with experience in streamlining a production pipeline, or find a CFO in Burundi who knows how to smooth out a cash flow.  Running a developed economy is tricky business, and it takes a while to develop enough expertise, an experienced workforce, and a good infrastructure.<br> <br>
Not being able to get pirated songs isn't what's holding underdeveloped nations back.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does he not see that these treaties signed with underdeveloped nations to help them " defend " American businesses against " piracy " and patent infringement is exactly what is keeping them behind ? Really ?
You do n't think it 's the lack of education , lack of infrastructure , over-reliance on subsistence farming , and the general lack of business knowledge ?
Try to find a CEO in El Salvador with experience in streamlining a production pipeline , or find a CFO in Burundi who knows how to smooth out a cash flow .
Running a developed economy is tricky business , and it takes a while to develop enough expertise , an experienced workforce , and a good infrastructure .
Not being able to get pirated songs is n't what 's holding underdeveloped nations back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does he not see that these treaties signed with underdeveloped nations to help them "defend" American businesses against "piracy" and patent infringement is exactly what is keeping them behind?Really?
You don't think it's the lack of education, lack of infrastructure, over-reliance on subsistence farming, and the general lack of business knowledge?
Try to find a CEO in El Salvador with experience in streamlining a production pipeline, or find a CFO in Burundi who knows how to smooth out a cash flow.
Running a developed economy is tricky business, and it takes a while to develop enough expertise, an experienced workforce, and a good infrastructure.
Not being able to get pirated songs isn't what's holding underdeveloped nations back.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30640668</id>
	<title>Re:We are better off without such charitable peopl</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1262620680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>bono. you are little different than a charitable frenchmen advocating absolute monarchy in 1789</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
If you're going to do a stupid analogy you could at least make it a car one.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>bono .
you are little different than a charitable frenchmen advocating absolute monarchy in 1789 If you 're going to do a stupid analogy you could at least make it a car one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>bono.
you are little different than a charitable frenchmen advocating absolute monarchy in 1789

If you're going to do a stupid analogy you could at least make it a car one.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30640064</id>
	<title>Re:Is there anyone left on this planet ...</title>
	<author>KyroTerra</author>
	<datestamp>1262617080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>At the risk of being the pariah of the thread: me.

I like Bono.  I enjoyed U2's old work, I enjoy their new work.  I appreciate that Bono postures his fame toward a positive cause.  I'm sure it would be much more fun for Bono to stick to what other rockstars do: bedding countless droves of groupies while swimming in a Scrooge McDuck-esque pile of nose candy.

That said, I firmly disagree with Bono's stance on the web tracking issue.  But I honestly think this is a stance born more out of ignorance than malice.  My best guess is that U2's 'charming' manager has been bending Bono's ear a bit on the piracy issue.

I'd simply remember that Bono is a rock star, rather than anything resembling any form of IT professional.  Respond in the same way you would respond to your grandmother telling you how the internet works: laugh at her with your friends on Slashdot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>At the risk of being the pariah of the thread : me .
I like Bono .
I enjoyed U2 's old work , I enjoy their new work .
I appreciate that Bono postures his fame toward a positive cause .
I 'm sure it would be much more fun for Bono to stick to what other rockstars do : bedding countless droves of groupies while swimming in a Scrooge McDuck-esque pile of nose candy .
That said , I firmly disagree with Bono 's stance on the web tracking issue .
But I honestly think this is a stance born more out of ignorance than malice .
My best guess is that U2 's 'charming ' manager has been bending Bono 's ear a bit on the piracy issue .
I 'd simply remember that Bono is a rock star , rather than anything resembling any form of IT professional .
Respond in the same way you would respond to your grandmother telling you how the internet works : laugh at her with your friends on Slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At the risk of being the pariah of the thread: me.
I like Bono.
I enjoyed U2's old work, I enjoy their new work.
I appreciate that Bono postures his fame toward a positive cause.
I'm sure it would be much more fun for Bono to stick to what other rockstars do: bedding countless droves of groupies while swimming in a Scrooge McDuck-esque pile of nose candy.
That said, I firmly disagree with Bono's stance on the web tracking issue.
But I honestly think this is a stance born more out of ignorance than malice.
My best guess is that U2's 'charming' manager has been bending Bono's ear a bit on the piracy issue.
I'd simply remember that Bono is a rock star, rather than anything resembling any form of IT professional.
Respond in the same way you would respond to your grandmother telling you how the internet works: laugh at her with your friends on Slashdot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635248</id>
	<title>Hypocrites</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262520540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Your indignation would be a lot more interesting to me if it wasn't so covered in crap.
<br>
<br>
Everytime U2 are on the verge of releasing an album, they leak it online so they can have a story about their album being 'stolen' before its released and get a brick load of free publicity from the subsequent news stories. Its amazing how they're able to use the internet to their advantage while still being able to call it a disgrace!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your indignation would be a lot more interesting to me if it was n't so covered in crap .
Everytime U2 are on the verge of releasing an album , they leak it online so they can have a story about their album being 'stolen ' before its released and get a brick load of free publicity from the subsequent news stories .
Its amazing how they 're able to use the internet to their advantage while still being able to call it a disgrace !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your indignation would be a lot more interesting to me if it wasn't so covered in crap.
Everytime U2 are on the verge of releasing an album, they leak it online so they can have a story about their album being 'stolen' before its released and get a brick load of free publicity from the subsequent news stories.
Its amazing how they're able to use the internet to their advantage while still being able to call it a disgrace!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30640314</id>
	<title>This actually sounds great.</title>
	<author>tthomas48</author>
	<datestamp>1262618820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think child porn is a bad comparison, since that's basically what they're doing. The problem is that the whole point of the anti-child porn campaigns is destroying the market. Best thing to do is work on shutting down distribution and leaving the end users alone. The key should be to make it worth their time to spend $.99 rather than download.</p><p>Then start a public relations campaign to make stealing from artists seem uncool. Rather than using the 20 biggest artists in the world, use hard working artists who are having trouble getting by. Like Ian Mcdougall of the River Boat gamblers, who made about $12k/year before getting hit by a car and being left with thousands of dollars in medical bills. It's much harder to justify stealing from someone like that.</p><p>We've gotten what we've wanted. You can buy pretty much any music you want in an open format. We won. I've read your slashdot posts. You said you'd start buying music again once that condition was met. So do it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think child porn is a bad comparison , since that 's basically what they 're doing .
The problem is that the whole point of the anti-child porn campaigns is destroying the market .
Best thing to do is work on shutting down distribution and leaving the end users alone .
The key should be to make it worth their time to spend $ .99 rather than download.Then start a public relations campaign to make stealing from artists seem uncool .
Rather than using the 20 biggest artists in the world , use hard working artists who are having trouble getting by .
Like Ian Mcdougall of the River Boat gamblers , who made about $ 12k/year before getting hit by a car and being left with thousands of dollars in medical bills .
It 's much harder to justify stealing from someone like that.We 've gotten what we 've wanted .
You can buy pretty much any music you want in an open format .
We won .
I 've read your slashdot posts .
You said you 'd start buying music again once that condition was met .
So do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think child porn is a bad comparison, since that's basically what they're doing.
The problem is that the whole point of the anti-child porn campaigns is destroying the market.
Best thing to do is work on shutting down distribution and leaving the end users alone.
The key should be to make it worth their time to spend $.99 rather than download.Then start a public relations campaign to make stealing from artists seem uncool.
Rather than using the 20 biggest artists in the world, use hard working artists who are having trouble getting by.
Like Ian Mcdougall of the River Boat gamblers, who made about $12k/year before getting hit by a car and being left with thousands of dollars in medical bills.
It's much harder to justify stealing from someone like that.We've gotten what we've wanted.
You can buy pretty much any music you want in an open format.
We won.
I've read your slashdot posts.
You said you'd start buying music again once that condition was met.
So do it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637378</id>
	<title>Re:From Wikipedia</title>
	<author>blarkon</author>
	<datestamp>1262538600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bono is at the extreme end of the curve when it comes to compensation for artistic output. He gets attention with what he says because of that. Someone who was in the middle of the artistic compensation curve was complaining about their work being pirated wouldn't be newsworthy (or would be newsworthy in a "streisand effect" way by which people would pirate their stuff to find out who the heck they were to be complaining about piracy in the first place)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bono is at the extreme end of the curve when it comes to compensation for artistic output .
He gets attention with what he says because of that .
Someone who was in the middle of the artistic compensation curve was complaining about their work being pirated would n't be newsworthy ( or would be newsworthy in a " streisand effect " way by which people would pirate their stuff to find out who the heck they were to be complaining about piracy in the first place )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bono is at the extreme end of the curve when it comes to compensation for artistic output.
He gets attention with what he says because of that.
Someone who was in the middle of the artistic compensation curve was complaining about their work being pirated wouldn't be newsworthy (or would be newsworthy in a "streisand effect" way by which people would pirate their stuff to find out who the heck they were to be complaining about piracy in the first place)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635890</id>
	<title>Awww, Mr. Charitable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262525160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>... didn't you know? Sharing is caring! =)</htmltext>
<tokenext>... did n't you know ?
Sharing is caring !
= )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... didn't you know?
Sharing is caring!
=)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636998</id>
	<title>Question Copyright!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262534640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Karl Fogel's cross-referenced summary debunking the "party line" of the copyright owners:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; http://questioncopyright.org/promise</p><p>Nina Paley's delightful comparison of slaves as "property" versus ideas as "property":</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; http://questioncopyright.org/redefining\_property</p><p>-Robert</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Karl Fogel 's cross-referenced summary debunking the " party line " of the copyright owners :         http : //questioncopyright.org/promiseNina Paley 's delightful comparison of slaves as " property " versus ideas as " property " :         http : //questioncopyright.org/redefining \ _property-Robert</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Karl Fogel's cross-referenced summary debunking the "party line" of the copyright owners:
        http://questioncopyright.org/promiseNina Paley's delightful comparison of slaves as "property" versus ideas as "property":
        http://questioncopyright.org/redefining\_property-Robert</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636530</id>
	<title>BONO hypocrit</title>
	<author>toxique</author>
	<datestamp>1262530140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This guy is just a scum of an hypocrite. Worried about the poor????? Plain BS.

Take a look at this article. Unfortunately it is in spanish, but try to translate if you do not understand. Worth the read.

<a href="http://fortunaweb.com.ar/bono-desafina-con-sus-inversiones/" title="fortunaweb.com.ar" rel="nofollow">http://fortunaweb.com.ar/bono-desafina-con-sus-inversiones/</a> [fortunaweb.com.ar]

MF!</htmltext>
<tokenext>This guy is just a scum of an hypocrite .
Worried about the poor ? ? ? ? ?
Plain BS .
Take a look at this article .
Unfortunately it is in spanish , but try to translate if you do not understand .
Worth the read .
http : //fortunaweb.com.ar/bono-desafina-con-sus-inversiones/ [ fortunaweb.com.ar ] MF !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This guy is just a scum of an hypocrite.
Worried about the poor?????
Plain BS.
Take a look at this article.
Unfortunately it is in spanish, but try to translate if you do not understand.
Worth the read.
http://fortunaweb.com.ar/bono-desafina-con-sus-inversiones/ [fortunaweb.com.ar]

MF!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635858</id>
	<title>Trance</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262524980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I reckon the real dismay will happen when they stop the free distribution of music (pirate or otherwise)<br>and watch the sales plummet..<br>mainly because artists will remain unknown due to the lack of distribution..</p><p>I think thats the real crime...<br>sure for someone like U2 who is a household name downloads might be a problem..<br>but the internet is the best Radio EVER!!!<br>I know if i was an artist, i'd be giving my music away, and making all my money from Touring like REAL artsists do!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I reckon the real dismay will happen when they stop the free distribution of music ( pirate or otherwise ) and watch the sales plummet..mainly because artists will remain unknown due to the lack of distribution..I think thats the real crime...sure for someone like U2 who is a household name downloads might be a problem..but the internet is the best Radio EVER ! !
! I know if i was an artist , i 'd be giving my music away , and making all my money from Touring like REAL artsists do !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I reckon the real dismay will happen when they stop the free distribution of music (pirate or otherwise)and watch the sales plummet..mainly because artists will remain unknown due to the lack of distribution..I think thats the real crime...sure for someone like U2 who is a household name downloads might be a problem..but the internet is the best Radio EVER!!
!I know if i was an artist, i'd be giving my music away, and making all my money from Touring like REAL artsists do!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30638508</id>
	<title>Profits...</title>
	<author>YankDownUnder</author>
	<datestamp>1262597340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, Bono, I'm sure you're more than happy to make statements about the media industry grubbing more profits than they've already grubbed from us - God forbid that the rich shouldn't get richer - all from a mediocre artist/musician that would have not gotten far without a huge record company's promotion in the first place - and Mr. Bono, as you so comfortably sit up there in "Richland" with the rest of the well fed, well taken-care-of, well paid pigs, we, the underdogs, the underpaid, the underfed - the BASE OF ALL ECONOMY - will plodge along and listen to your philanthropic banterings about the "less well off" and the "starving people". Too bad you can't just bloody retire and take what you've already raped - along with the RIAA and their ilk - and just sit back and live quietly without your pigish rants and demands for more money, more profits. Make what you make, make it honestly, and don't whinge.

Why didn't anyone jump on this bandwagon back in the 60's and the 70's when folks were already taping music from the radio?

Anyways, Mr. Bono, if you're such a good soul, cut your living expenses to $40AUD a year, give the rest to the starving, the waterless, the sick and the poor, and then I'll admire you. Better yet, give it all away, and start again from scratch...shouldn't be that hard if you're a really good musician...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , Bono , I 'm sure you 're more than happy to make statements about the media industry grubbing more profits than they 've already grubbed from us - God forbid that the rich should n't get richer - all from a mediocre artist/musician that would have not gotten far without a huge record company 's promotion in the first place - and Mr. Bono , as you so comfortably sit up there in " Richland " with the rest of the well fed , well taken-care-of , well paid pigs , we , the underdogs , the underpaid , the underfed - the BASE OF ALL ECONOMY - will plodge along and listen to your philanthropic banterings about the " less well off " and the " starving people " .
Too bad you ca n't just bloody retire and take what you 've already raped - along with the RIAA and their ilk - and just sit back and live quietly without your pigish rants and demands for more money , more profits .
Make what you make , make it honestly , and do n't whinge .
Why did n't anyone jump on this bandwagon back in the 60 's and the 70 's when folks were already taping music from the radio ?
Anyways , Mr. Bono , if you 're such a good soul , cut your living expenses to $ 40AUD a year , give the rest to the starving , the waterless , the sick and the poor , and then I 'll admire you .
Better yet , give it all away , and start again from scratch...should n't be that hard if you 're a really good musician.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, Bono, I'm sure you're more than happy to make statements about the media industry grubbing more profits than they've already grubbed from us - God forbid that the rich shouldn't get richer - all from a mediocre artist/musician that would have not gotten far without a huge record company's promotion in the first place - and Mr. Bono, as you so comfortably sit up there in "Richland" with the rest of the well fed, well taken-care-of, well paid pigs, we, the underdogs, the underpaid, the underfed - the BASE OF ALL ECONOMY - will plodge along and listen to your philanthropic banterings about the "less well off" and the "starving people".
Too bad you can't just bloody retire and take what you've already raped - along with the RIAA and their ilk - and just sit back and live quietly without your pigish rants and demands for more money, more profits.
Make what you make, make it honestly, and don't whinge.
Why didn't anyone jump on this bandwagon back in the 60's and the 70's when folks were already taping music from the radio?
Anyways, Mr. Bono, if you're such a good soul, cut your living expenses to $40AUD a year, give the rest to the starving, the waterless, the sick and the poor, and then I'll admire you.
Better yet, give it all away, and start again from scratch...shouldn't be that hard if you're a really good musician...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637120</id>
	<title>Re:He's a singer....</title>
	<author>kramerd</author>
	<datestamp>1262535960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, to be fair, the NY times is a shitty newspaper that generally gets anything to do with technology wrong. Of course, you can replace technology with practically any word and the previous sentence is still true.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , to be fair , the NY times is a shitty newspaper that generally gets anything to do with technology wrong .
Of course , you can replace technology with practically any word and the previous sentence is still true .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, to be fair, the NY times is a shitty newspaper that generally gets anything to do with technology wrong.
Of course, you can replace technology with practically any word and the previous sentence is still true.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635252</id>
	<title>Bono supports totalitarianism</title>
	<author>pydev</author>
	<datestamp>1262520540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, Bono would like to turn the US and Europe into totalitarian states in order to make sure people like himself can keep making millions with unreasonable copyright terms and restrictions.</p><p>Some humanitarian!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , Bono would like to turn the US and Europe into totalitarian states in order to make sure people like himself can keep making millions with unreasonable copyright terms and restrictions.Some humanitarian !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, Bono would like to turn the US and Europe into totalitarian states in order to make sure people like himself can keep making millions with unreasonable copyright terms and restrictions.Some humanitarian!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637148</id>
	<title>Re:Sorry</title>
	<author>Nefarious Wheel</author>
	<datestamp>1262536260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Floaters are hard to flush. You usually need to anchor them down with a lot of toilet paper. And pray you don't have a water efficient toilet!</p></div><p>Not true.  We recently got a new water efficient thunder mug from someone called "Stylus" and it's not just a vast water saver, it's quite efficient in what it does.  Good technology, good sound hydraulics.  As an Australian I'm naturally impressed by good technology, however fundamental the application.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Floaters are hard to flush .
You usually need to anchor them down with a lot of toilet paper .
And pray you do n't have a water efficient toilet ! Not true .
We recently got a new water efficient thunder mug from someone called " Stylus " and it 's not just a vast water saver , it 's quite efficient in what it does .
Good technology , good sound hydraulics .
As an Australian I 'm naturally impressed by good technology , however fundamental the application .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Floaters are hard to flush.
You usually need to anchor them down with a lot of toilet paper.
And pray you don't have a water efficient toilet!Not true.
We recently got a new water efficient thunder mug from someone called "Stylus" and it's not just a vast water saver, it's quite efficient in what it does.
Good technology, good sound hydraulics.
As an Australian I'm naturally impressed by good technology, however fundamental the application.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636060</id>
	<title>Re:when it comes to digital piracy</title>
	<author>Teancum</author>
	<datestamp>1262526300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Last time I heard, free beer tends to enable free speech.</p><p>Sometimes the free speech is a little more free than the speaker had hoped, but they certainly let it loose.</p><p>As a (former) politician, it turns out that free beer is one of the few ways to genuinely earn votes as well.  Getting a brewery to support your political cause is a guaranteed way to win.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Last time I heard , free beer tends to enable free speech.Sometimes the free speech is a little more free than the speaker had hoped , but they certainly let it loose.As a ( former ) politician , it turns out that free beer is one of the few ways to genuinely earn votes as well .
Getting a brewery to support your political cause is a guaranteed way to win .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last time I heard, free beer tends to enable free speech.Sometimes the free speech is a little more free than the speaker had hoped, but they certainly let it loose.As a (former) politician, it turns out that free beer is one of the few ways to genuinely earn votes as well.
Getting a brewery to support your political cause is a guaranteed way to win.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635070</id>
	<title>We are better off without such charitable people</title>
	<author>unity100</author>
	<datestamp>1262519460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>such kind of people harm society in multitudes of ways than they support it with their charities. imagine - this guy practically wants everyone to be tracked. totally oblivious to the danger that any and all governments or private interests can use tracking technology to suppress online dissent, any kind of dissent, even himself, expressing opinion that would conflict with the government in future. put this risk on the other side of the counter opposite of his charity<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... a huge imbalance.</p><p>no sir. we are better off without such 'charitable' people. go fucking die in a corner, bono. you are little different than a charitable frenchmen advocating absolute monarchy in 1789.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>such kind of people harm society in multitudes of ways than they support it with their charities .
imagine - this guy practically wants everyone to be tracked .
totally oblivious to the danger that any and all governments or private interests can use tracking technology to suppress online dissent , any kind of dissent , even himself , expressing opinion that would conflict with the government in future .
put this risk on the other side of the counter opposite of his charity ... a huge imbalance.no sir .
we are better off without such 'charitable ' people .
go fucking die in a corner , bono .
you are little different than a charitable frenchmen advocating absolute monarchy in 1789 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>such kind of people harm society in multitudes of ways than they support it with their charities.
imagine - this guy practically wants everyone to be tracked.
totally oblivious to the danger that any and all governments or private interests can use tracking technology to suppress online dissent, any kind of dissent, even himself, expressing opinion that would conflict with the government in future.
put this risk on the other side of the counter opposite of his charity ... a huge imbalance.no sir.
we are better off without such 'charitable' people.
go fucking die in a corner, bono.
you are little different than a charitable frenchmen advocating absolute monarchy in 1789.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636832</id>
	<title>he's a hater</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262533020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He's just mad his latest album flopped. Did he ever consider maybe it sucked and no one wants to hear rock anymore?</p><p>I buy music, mostly jazz and house. Most of it isn't on major labels. You stop piracy I still won't buy a U2 CD.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's just mad his latest album flopped .
Did he ever consider maybe it sucked and no one wants to hear rock anymore ? I buy music , mostly jazz and house .
Most of it is n't on major labels .
You stop piracy I still wo n't buy a U2 CD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's just mad his latest album flopped.
Did he ever consider maybe it sucked and no one wants to hear rock anymore?I buy music, mostly jazz and house.
Most of it isn't on major labels.
You stop piracy I still won't buy a U2 CD.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635660</id>
	<title>Re:Legal alternatives have also helped.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262523300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>From what I read, sales for the more unknown artists who do not get as much airtime as the big stars are also up, especially online sales.  And it makes sense, too.
<br> <br>
I don't mind paying for music.  I don't even mind paying for music if the money goes to some rich asshole like Bono... he wrote it, he deserves to make a buck.  All the music I've gotten during the past 10 years or so is from legal sources.  Why?  Not because I suddenly grew a conscience, but because the legal alternative is now almost as good as illegal sites such as AllofMP3, when it comes to quality and convenience.  More importantly, many legal downloads are now DRM-free.
<br> <br>
I only wish the movie industry would do the same, and I'd gladly pay for a legal movie site like AllofMP3, with a choice of formats and compression rates, and no DRM.  For once I actually agree with our government (in the Netherlands), whose stance on illegal downloads is that they will crack down on it, but not before the movie industry provides a reasonable legal alternative.  And the current offering of streaming to proprietary players only, with no means to watch content on anything other than a Windows PC (no Popcorn Hours, no iPhones), is not acceptable by any standard.
<br> <br>
I don't think many musicians are hurting because of downloads (and there's plenty of research to back that statement up).  I do believe that it's the established musicians like Bono and the record labels who are hurting, because their business model is a dinosaur from last century.  Bono, pfft... he'd jump at a chance to flog a few records online before he made it big... and now he's made it so big that the great humanitarian decided that he doesn't want to pay taxes like the little people, and subsequently incorporated U2 in the Netherlands (which is a tax haven for foreign companies).</htmltext>
<tokenext>From what I read , sales for the more unknown artists who do not get as much airtime as the big stars are also up , especially online sales .
And it makes sense , too .
I do n't mind paying for music .
I do n't even mind paying for music if the money goes to some rich asshole like Bono... he wrote it , he deserves to make a buck .
All the music I 've gotten during the past 10 years or so is from legal sources .
Why ? Not because I suddenly grew a conscience , but because the legal alternative is now almost as good as illegal sites such as AllofMP3 , when it comes to quality and convenience .
More importantly , many legal downloads are now DRM-free .
I only wish the movie industry would do the same , and I 'd gladly pay for a legal movie site like AllofMP3 , with a choice of formats and compression rates , and no DRM .
For once I actually agree with our government ( in the Netherlands ) , whose stance on illegal downloads is that they will crack down on it , but not before the movie industry provides a reasonable legal alternative .
And the current offering of streaming to proprietary players only , with no means to watch content on anything other than a Windows PC ( no Popcorn Hours , no iPhones ) , is not acceptable by any standard .
I do n't think many musicians are hurting because of downloads ( and there 's plenty of research to back that statement up ) .
I do believe that it 's the established musicians like Bono and the record labels who are hurting , because their business model is a dinosaur from last century .
Bono , pfft... he 'd jump at a chance to flog a few records online before he made it big... and now he 's made it so big that the great humanitarian decided that he does n't want to pay taxes like the little people , and subsequently incorporated U2 in the Netherlands ( which is a tax haven for foreign companies ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From what I read, sales for the more unknown artists who do not get as much airtime as the big stars are also up, especially online sales.
And it makes sense, too.
I don't mind paying for music.
I don't even mind paying for music if the money goes to some rich asshole like Bono... he wrote it, he deserves to make a buck.
All the music I've gotten during the past 10 years or so is from legal sources.
Why?  Not because I suddenly grew a conscience, but because the legal alternative is now almost as good as illegal sites such as AllofMP3, when it comes to quality and convenience.
More importantly, many legal downloads are now DRM-free.
I only wish the movie industry would do the same, and I'd gladly pay for a legal movie site like AllofMP3, with a choice of formats and compression rates, and no DRM.
For once I actually agree with our government (in the Netherlands), whose stance on illegal downloads is that they will crack down on it, but not before the movie industry provides a reasonable legal alternative.
And the current offering of streaming to proprietary players only, with no means to watch content on anything other than a Windows PC (no Popcorn Hours, no iPhones), is not acceptable by any standard.
I don't think many musicians are hurting because of downloads (and there's plenty of research to back that statement up).
I do believe that it's the established musicians like Bono and the record labels who are hurting, because their business model is a dinosaur from last century.
Bono, pfft... he'd jump at a chance to flog a few records online before he made it big... and now he's made it so big that the great humanitarian decided that he doesn't want to pay taxes like the little people, and subsequently incorporated U2 in the Netherlands (which is a tax haven for foreign companies).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636606</id>
	<title>Tracking DNW; false positives.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262530800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tracking doesn't work.  I have a youtube video with background music <a href="https://magnatune.com/artists/license/webvideo?artist=Nova+Express&amp;album=Gimme+Some&amp;genre=Rock" title="magnatune.com" rel="nofollow">specifically legally licensed from magnatune for use on youtube</a> [magnatune.com].
<p>
Regardless, google/youtube flagged the audio and the dispute has been open for a month.  In the dispute filing, I pasted the relevant text from the license and linked to it.
</p><p>
The video itself clearly has a link to the artists site at magnatune (as required).  So if any person were to intelligently go to the site and read the license or just read the dispute data I filed, the problem would cleary seen to be valid and legal.
</p><p>
But I'm still waiting to hear back from WMG.  The point I have is that Bono's technical suggestion to track everything will not work.  In a very closed and controlled environment like youtube, the false positives are so numerous that legal content cannot be cleared and shared.
</p><p>
Here's the license from magnatune (from link above).</p><blockquote><div><p>"If you'd like to use Magnatune music in a video that will be posted on YouTube,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... simply buy the album and use the music.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...  you're required to include attribution of our music.</p></div></blockquote><p>.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tracking does n't work .
I have a youtube video with background music specifically legally licensed from magnatune for use on youtube [ magnatune.com ] .
Regardless , google/youtube flagged the audio and the dispute has been open for a month .
In the dispute filing , I pasted the relevant text from the license and linked to it .
The video itself clearly has a link to the artists site at magnatune ( as required ) .
So if any person were to intelligently go to the site and read the license or just read the dispute data I filed , the problem would cleary seen to be valid and legal .
But I 'm still waiting to hear back from WMG .
The point I have is that Bono 's technical suggestion to track everything will not work .
In a very closed and controlled environment like youtube , the false positives are so numerous that legal content can not be cleared and shared .
Here 's the license from magnatune ( from link above ) .
" If you 'd like to use Magnatune music in a video that will be posted on YouTube , ... simply buy the album and use the music .
... you 're required to include attribution of our music. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tracking doesn't work.
I have a youtube video with background music specifically legally licensed from magnatune for use on youtube [magnatune.com].
Regardless, google/youtube flagged the audio and the dispute has been open for a month.
In the dispute filing, I pasted the relevant text from the license and linked to it.
The video itself clearly has a link to the artists site at magnatune (as required).
So if any person were to intelligently go to the site and read the license or just read the dispute data I filed, the problem would cleary seen to be valid and legal.
But I'm still waiting to hear back from WMG.
The point I have is that Bono's technical suggestion to track everything will not work.
In a very closed and controlled environment like youtube, the false positives are so numerous that legal content cannot be cleared and shared.
Here's the license from magnatune (from link above).
"If you'd like to use Magnatune music in a video that will be posted on YouTube, ... simply buy the album and use the music.
...  you're required to include attribution of our music..
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635176</id>
	<title>Is this even news worth?</title>
	<author>nsd2142</author>
	<datestamp>1262520060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's articles like this that make me think "where are we heading"?  Consider this, all the information Bono is trying to reference is pure speculation, and has no substantiation.  In the past, I've downloaded music, movies, etc., but ultimately I purchased them, and even more.  My iTunes purchased collection is now over 2500 songs/music video's - far more than I've ever downloaded for free in the past.  Grow up Bono!  Maybe you'll find what your looking for - like generating more money via concerts - now that's something worth purchasing<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's articles like this that make me think " where are we heading " ?
Consider this , all the information Bono is trying to reference is pure speculation , and has no substantiation .
In the past , I 've downloaded music , movies , etc. , but ultimately I purchased them , and even more .
My iTunes purchased collection is now over 2500 songs/music video 's - far more than I 've ever downloaded for free in the past .
Grow up Bono !
Maybe you 'll find what your looking for - like generating more money via concerts - now that 's something worth purchasing : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's articles like this that make me think "where are we heading"?
Consider this, all the information Bono is trying to reference is pure speculation, and has no substantiation.
In the past, I've downloaded music, movies, etc., but ultimately I purchased them, and even more.
My iTunes purchased collection is now over 2500 songs/music video's - far more than I've ever downloaded for free in the past.
Grow up Bono!
Maybe you'll find what your looking for - like generating more money via concerts - now that's something worth purchasing :-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635698</id>
	<title>Re:He's a singer....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262523600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does David Beckham worry about someone downloading some fluky free kick from 10 years ago? No. He earns his money from putting his boots on and getting out on the pitch. U2 have been shit for 15 years. They've seen the exception with the Beatles and want a free ride ad-infinitum on the same level. Here's an idea. Stop these uneducated pricks from having a voice and giving them a monthly payroll job like the rest of the world, except they can waste it in a shitty studio trying to work out the next 3 chord progression and cat yeowling lyrics.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does David Beckham worry about someone downloading some fluky free kick from 10 years ago ?
No. He earns his money from putting his boots on and getting out on the pitch .
U2 have been shit for 15 years .
They 've seen the exception with the Beatles and want a free ride ad-infinitum on the same level .
Here 's an idea .
Stop these uneducated pricks from having a voice and giving them a monthly payroll job like the rest of the world , except they can waste it in a shitty studio trying to work out the next 3 chord progression and cat yeowling lyrics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does David Beckham worry about someone downloading some fluky free kick from 10 years ago?
No. He earns his money from putting his boots on and getting out on the pitch.
U2 have been shit for 15 years.
They've seen the exception with the Beatles and want a free ride ad-infinitum on the same level.
Here's an idea.
Stop these uneducated pricks from having a voice and giving them a monthly payroll job like the rest of the world, except they can waste it in a shitty studio trying to work out the next 3 chord progression and cat yeowling lyrics.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635106</id>
	<title>Perfectly possible?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262519580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps our two definitions of perfectly possible are different, but it seems quite a few people manage to evade the filters and legal prohibitions on these.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps our two definitions of perfectly possible are different , but it seems quite a few people manage to evade the filters and legal prohibitions on these .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps our two definitions of perfectly possible are different, but it seems quite a few people manage to evade the filters and legal prohibitions on these.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636754</id>
	<title>Re:By the numbers</title>
	<author>Reziac</author>
	<datestamp>1262532420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now we know why Bono is a singer, not an  accountant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now we know why Bono is a singer , not an accountant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now we know why Bono is a singer, not an  accountant.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635094</id>
	<title>Bono is an idiot...</title>
	<author>Darkness404</author>
	<datestamp>1262519520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bono is an idiot to put it quite plainly. Does he not see that these treaties signed with underdeveloped nations to help them "defend" American businesses against "piracy" and patent infringement is exactly what is keeping them behind? If Bono would stop being such an egotistical asshole and actually look at the facts, he would see that eternal copyright and copyright treaties keep valuable medical information locked up from developing nations, valuable educational supplies from developing nations. Yeah, he seems willing enough to donate a few millions to "fight" AIDS but can't give up a bit of copyright in order to help the world as a whole? That isn't selfless, that is as selfish as you can get.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bono is an idiot to put it quite plainly .
Does he not see that these treaties signed with underdeveloped nations to help them " defend " American businesses against " piracy " and patent infringement is exactly what is keeping them behind ?
If Bono would stop being such an egotistical asshole and actually look at the facts , he would see that eternal copyright and copyright treaties keep valuable medical information locked up from developing nations , valuable educational supplies from developing nations .
Yeah , he seems willing enough to donate a few millions to " fight " AIDS but ca n't give up a bit of copyright in order to help the world as a whole ?
That is n't selfless , that is as selfish as you can get .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bono is an idiot to put it quite plainly.
Does he not see that these treaties signed with underdeveloped nations to help them "defend" American businesses against "piracy" and patent infringement is exactly what is keeping them behind?
If Bono would stop being such an egotistical asshole and actually look at the facts, he would see that eternal copyright and copyright treaties keep valuable medical information locked up from developing nations, valuable educational supplies from developing nations.
Yeah, he seems willing enough to donate a few millions to "fight" AIDS but can't give up a bit of copyright in order to help the world as a whole?
That isn't selfless, that is as selfish as you can get.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636588</id>
	<title>Re:We are better off without such charitable peopl</title>
	<author>\_Sprocket\_</author>
	<datestamp>1262530560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now, now... if Bono wants to compare the music industry with Child Pornographers and the RIAA with a tyrannical Government, who are we to argue with him?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now , now... if Bono wants to compare the music industry with Child Pornographers and the RIAA with a tyrannical Government , who are we to argue with him ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now, now... if Bono wants to compare the music industry with Child Pornographers and the RIAA with a tyrannical Government, who are we to argue with him?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30638782</id>
	<title>Score one for freedom</title>
	<author>damburger</author>
	<datestamp>1262601660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bono has come out in favour of tracking content to help 'deserving' artists. Given that the general public consider Bono to have a massively inflated sense of his own worth, and a massively inflated bank account, this can only help those who are on the side of a free Internet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bono has come out in favour of tracking content to help 'deserving ' artists .
Given that the general public consider Bono to have a massively inflated sense of his own worth , and a massively inflated bank account , this can only help those who are on the side of a free Internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bono has come out in favour of tracking content to help 'deserving' artists.
Given that the general public consider Bono to have a massively inflated sense of his own worth, and a massively inflated bank account, this can only help those who are on the side of a free Internet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30638342</id>
	<title>Re:Sigh ... copyright does not encourage creativit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262637960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>true story: years ago i worked at a certain music publishing company... many times i was sent to "storage" which was a huge rotting building basement several doors down; rat-infested, dangling bulbs, echoing emptiness, etc. Think the end scene in "Raiders of the Lost Ark"</p><p>During my forays i stumbled on several sagging, water-laden cardboard boxes full of such wonders as:<br>1. the original HAND-ANNOTATED "Star Wars" score from John Williams.</p><p>2. several tapes of unreleased jams between Jimmy Page and Jimi; demo reels and song sketches by Steve Winwood (Traffic era), Cream, the Doors, Genesis, Yes, Talking Heads...</p><p>3. an entire unreleased demo set of unpublished and unreleased/never rerecorded Peter Gabriel material (recorded in his home studio) predating the first solo release lp.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and on and on and on and on and on... for 3 city blocks. Rotting in darkness. Stuff people would kill to buy, raw or not. But you'd never get any of that material...</p><p>it is also widely known that since approximately the late 70s, almost every single mid- to large concert by mid-  to superstar-status bands has been recorded directly off the mixing board by The Company. But you won't get those releases either (unless you like The Dead<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>As a musician, recording engineer and fan, i can say, DIE DINOSAURS DIE! And that includes Bono for being such an ass.</p><p>as for me, i have a collection of extremely-rare and unobtainable music with which to gift friends on special occasions... and i'm sure no one ever missed a few boxes in that tomb<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>true story : years ago i worked at a certain music publishing company... many times i was sent to " storage " which was a huge rotting building basement several doors down ; rat-infested , dangling bulbs , echoing emptiness , etc .
Think the end scene in " Raiders of the Lost Ark " During my forays i stumbled on several sagging , water-laden cardboard boxes full of such wonders as : 1. the original HAND-ANNOTATED " Star Wars " score from John Williams.2 .
several tapes of unreleased jams between Jimmy Page and Jimi ; demo reels and song sketches by Steve Winwood ( Traffic era ) , Cream , the Doors , Genesis , Yes , Talking Heads...3. an entire unreleased demo set of unpublished and unreleased/never rerecorded Peter Gabriel material ( recorded in his home studio ) predating the first solo release lp .
... and on and on and on and on and on... for 3 city blocks .
Rotting in darkness .
Stuff people would kill to buy , raw or not .
But you 'd never get any of that material...it is also widely known that since approximately the late 70s , almost every single mid- to large concert by mid- to superstar-status bands has been recorded directly off the mixing board by The Company .
But you wo n't get those releases either ( unless you like The Dead : ) As a musician , recording engineer and fan , i can say , DIE DINOSAURS DIE !
And that includes Bono for being such an ass.as for me , i have a collection of extremely-rare and unobtainable music with which to gift friends on special occasions... and i 'm sure no one ever missed a few boxes in that tomb ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>true story: years ago i worked at a certain music publishing company... many times i was sent to "storage" which was a huge rotting building basement several doors down; rat-infested, dangling bulbs, echoing emptiness, etc.
Think the end scene in "Raiders of the Lost Ark"During my forays i stumbled on several sagging, water-laden cardboard boxes full of such wonders as:1. the original HAND-ANNOTATED "Star Wars" score from John Williams.2.
several tapes of unreleased jams between Jimmy Page and Jimi; demo reels and song sketches by Steve Winwood (Traffic era), Cream, the Doors, Genesis, Yes, Talking Heads...3. an entire unreleased demo set of unpublished and unreleased/never rerecorded Peter Gabriel material (recorded in his home studio) predating the first solo release lp.
... and on and on and on and on and on... for 3 city blocks.
Rotting in darkness.
Stuff people would kill to buy, raw or not.
But you'd never get any of that material...it is also widely known that since approximately the late 70s, almost every single mid- to large concert by mid-  to superstar-status bands has been recorded directly off the mixing board by The Company.
But you won't get those releases either (unless you like The Dead :)As a musician, recording engineer and fan, i can say, DIE DINOSAURS DIE!
And that includes Bono for being such an ass.as for me, i have a collection of extremely-rare and unobtainable music with which to gift friends on special occasions... and i'm sure no one ever missed a few boxes in that tomb ;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635196</id>
	<title>One of these is not like the other...</title>
	<author>clinko</author>
	<datestamp>1262520180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Supergroups:<br>Led Zeppelin<br>The Beatles<br>Metallica<br>The Rolling Stones<br>U2</p><p>So far, only one of these is largely despised, an outcast, and will never be respected again.</p><p>So far...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Supergroups : Led ZeppelinThe BeatlesMetallicaThe Rolling StonesU2So far , only one of these is largely despised , an outcast , and will never be respected again.So far.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Supergroups:Led ZeppelinThe BeatlesMetallicaThe Rolling StonesU2So far, only one of these is largely despised, an outcast, and will never be respected again.So far...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30640792</id>
	<title>Time Magazine cover dartboards</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262621160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think there is now a market for laminated Bill Gates/Bono Time Magazine cover dartboards. The hardest part of the game is who to aim for!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think there is now a market for laminated Bill Gates/Bono Time Magazine cover dartboards .
The hardest part of the game is who to aim for !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think there is now a market for laminated Bill Gates/Bono Time Magazine cover dartboards.
The hardest part of the game is who to aim for!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30646244</id>
	<title>Just not true</title>
	<author>snowwrestler</author>
	<datestamp>1262599800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The biggest problem facing most "small independent artists" is not people downloading their songs - it's NOBODY downloading the songs. Most (95\%) of the 100k+ albums released every year sell less than a hundred copies</p></div><p>You pivoted in that sentence. First you're talking about downloads, then you're talking about album sales. Not the same thing. There are plenty of bands whose music is widely downloaded or streamed, but who sell few albums. From the musicians' point of view, you've identified the problem perfectly.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The problem for most of these artists is that many of the traditional ways of discovering new music (radio, CD stores) have been bought up and monopolized by the majors. While the new media channels are available to everybody, getting "eyeballs" (OK, "ears") is still the hardest part.</p></div><p>It is much easier today for new bands to get exposure, thanks to music review sites like Pitchfork, services like Pandora or Spotify, discussion boards by the thousand, and of course MySpace, the original online home of independent musicians. Plus with MP3 players and smartphones, it's way easier to play a song for a friend whenever.</p><p>My brother is the drummer in a band signed to a mid-size label. They've put out several albums and tour nationally and internationally. Their songs have been streamed hundreds of thousands of times on their MySpace page. I'm sure there are torrents of them. Yet he still lives hand-to-mouth, working as a caterer and bike mechanic when he's not touring, living with friends. The lead singer makes ends meet by running a contracting business with his wife. They are not lacking for attention; what they are increasingly lacking are reliable ways to turn that attention into dollars.</p><p>Think back to the dotcoms of the late 90s. It's not that hard to grow an audience by giving things away to people; but audiences are worthless if there is no reliable mechanism to turn them into dollars.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The biggest problem facing most " small independent artists " is not people downloading their songs - it 's NOBODY downloading the songs .
Most ( 95 \ % ) of the 100k + albums released every year sell less than a hundred copiesYou pivoted in that sentence .
First you 're talking about downloads , then you 're talking about album sales .
Not the same thing .
There are plenty of bands whose music is widely downloaded or streamed , but who sell few albums .
From the musicians ' point of view , you 've identified the problem perfectly.The problem for most of these artists is that many of the traditional ways of discovering new music ( radio , CD stores ) have been bought up and monopolized by the majors .
While the new media channels are available to everybody , getting " eyeballs " ( OK , " ears " ) is still the hardest part.It is much easier today for new bands to get exposure , thanks to music review sites like Pitchfork , services like Pandora or Spotify , discussion boards by the thousand , and of course MySpace , the original online home of independent musicians .
Plus with MP3 players and smartphones , it 's way easier to play a song for a friend whenever.My brother is the drummer in a band signed to a mid-size label .
They 've put out several albums and tour nationally and internationally .
Their songs have been streamed hundreds of thousands of times on their MySpace page .
I 'm sure there are torrents of them .
Yet he still lives hand-to-mouth , working as a caterer and bike mechanic when he 's not touring , living with friends .
The lead singer makes ends meet by running a contracting business with his wife .
They are not lacking for attention ; what they are increasingly lacking are reliable ways to turn that attention into dollars.Think back to the dotcoms of the late 90s .
It 's not that hard to grow an audience by giving things away to people ; but audiences are worthless if there is no reliable mechanism to turn them into dollars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The biggest problem facing most "small independent artists" is not people downloading their songs - it's NOBODY downloading the songs.
Most (95\%) of the 100k+ albums released every year sell less than a hundred copiesYou pivoted in that sentence.
First you're talking about downloads, then you're talking about album sales.
Not the same thing.
There are plenty of bands whose music is widely downloaded or streamed, but who sell few albums.
From the musicians' point of view, you've identified the problem perfectly.The problem for most of these artists is that many of the traditional ways of discovering new music (radio, CD stores) have been bought up and monopolized by the majors.
While the new media channels are available to everybody, getting "eyeballs" (OK, "ears") is still the hardest part.It is much easier today for new bands to get exposure, thanks to music review sites like Pitchfork, services like Pandora or Spotify, discussion boards by the thousand, and of course MySpace, the original online home of independent musicians.
Plus with MP3 players and smartphones, it's way easier to play a song for a friend whenever.My brother is the drummer in a band signed to a mid-size label.
They've put out several albums and tour nationally and internationally.
Their songs have been streamed hundreds of thousands of times on their MySpace page.
I'm sure there are torrents of them.
Yet he still lives hand-to-mouth, working as a caterer and bike mechanic when he's not touring, living with friends.
The lead singer makes ends meet by running a contracting business with his wife.
They are not lacking for attention; what they are increasingly lacking are reliable ways to turn that attention into dollars.Think back to the dotcoms of the late 90s.
It's not that hard to grow an audience by giving things away to people; but audiences are worthless if there is no reliable mechanism to turn them into dollars.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636344</id>
	<title>Re:This came after...</title>
	<author>Registered Coward v2</author>
	<datestamp>1262528280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This came after Bono spent hours searching for his music on torrent sites.  Apparently he still hasn't found what he's looking for.</p></div><p>He should have searched for Cher - all the good stuff he did was when he was alive and they were a duet.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This came after Bono spent hours searching for his music on torrent sites .
Apparently he still has n't found what he 's looking for.He should have searched for Cher - all the good stuff he did was when he was alive and they were a duet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This came after Bono spent hours searching for his music on torrent sites.
Apparently he still hasn't found what he's looking for.He should have searched for Cher - all the good stuff he did was when he was alive and they were a duet.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635210</id>
	<title>F U Bozo</title>
	<author>m\_number4</author>
	<datestamp>1262520300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The music industry is just like any other private industry who has to solve their own problems. Dont expect governments around the world to help you solve your money problems - suck it up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The music industry is just like any other private industry who has to solve their own problems .
Dont expect governments around the world to help you solve your money problems - suck it up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The music industry is just like any other private industry who has to solve their own problems.
Dont expect governments around the world to help you solve your money problems - suck it up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635950</id>
	<title>Re:We are better off without such charitable peopl</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262525580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget that he is equating downloading and listening to a U2 album with child pornography.  One is a horrible abuse that I wouldn't wish on any child, and the other is child pornography.  (sorry.  poor taste).  Bono is despicable, greedy douchebag for invoking child porn in order to fatten his wallet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget that he is equating downloading and listening to a U2 album with child pornography .
One is a horrible abuse that I would n't wish on any child , and the other is child pornography .
( sorry. poor taste ) .
Bono is despicable , greedy douchebag for invoking child porn in order to fatten his wallet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget that he is equating downloading and listening to a U2 album with child pornography.
One is a horrible abuse that I wouldn't wish on any child, and the other is child pornography.
(sorry.  poor taste).
Bono is despicable, greedy douchebag for invoking child porn in order to fatten his wallet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30641318</id>
	<title>Re:This came after...</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1262623200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Bono is proof positive that it's easy to be a renowned global humanitarian when you are richer than God.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
What point are you trying to make?  That he shouldn't be a humanitarian?  That anything easy is evil? That being rich is bad in itself?  That only poor people can be good?
</p><p>
Whatever, it's got fuck all to do with internet privacy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bono is proof positive that it 's easy to be a renowned global humanitarian when you are richer than God .
What point are you trying to make ?
That he should n't be a humanitarian ?
That anything easy is evil ?
That being rich is bad in itself ?
That only poor people can be good ?
Whatever , it 's got fuck all to do with internet privacy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bono is proof positive that it's easy to be a renowned global humanitarian when you are richer than God.
What point are you trying to make?
That he shouldn't be a humanitarian?
That anything easy is evil?
That being rich is bad in itself?
That only poor people can be good?
Whatever, it's got fuck all to do with internet privacy.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635382</id>
	<title>Re:Sorry</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262521320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>From an Irish Slashdotter, I think it's only fair to say. I apologise most unreservedly to the world for not flushing this floater when we had the chance.</p></div><p>Don't worry buddy, it's not your fault.  Every nation has its black sheep and fuckups.</p><p>For those not aware what kind of a hypocritical scumbag Bono really is, here is some good reading:<br> <br>

<a href="http://www.corrupt.org/articles/jesus\_loves\_u\_2/" title="corrupt.org" rel="nofollow">Jesus Loves U 2</a> [corrupt.org]
<br>
<a href="http://ireland.corrupt.org/entry/99/Philanthropy\_and\_hypocrisy" title="corrupt.org" rel="nofollow">Philanthropy and hypocrisy</a> [corrupt.org]
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From an Irish Slashdotter , I think it 's only fair to say .
I apologise most unreservedly to the world for not flushing this floater when we had the chance.Do n't worry buddy , it 's not your fault .
Every nation has its black sheep and fuckups.For those not aware what kind of a hypocritical scumbag Bono really is , here is some good reading : Jesus Loves U 2 [ corrupt.org ] Philanthropy and hypocrisy [ corrupt.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From an Irish Slashdotter, I think it's only fair to say.
I apologise most unreservedly to the world for not flushing this floater when we had the chance.Don't worry buddy, it's not your fault.
Every nation has its black sheep and fuckups.For those not aware what kind of a hypocritical scumbag Bono really is, here is some good reading: 

Jesus Loves U 2 [corrupt.org]

Philanthropy and hypocrisy [corrupt.org]

	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635120</id>
	<title>Is there anyone left on this planet ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262519700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... who doesn't yet think that Bono is a sanctimonious hypocritical, posturing, corporate shill who is always willing to suck up to any big businessman or politician he can grab a photo opportunity with, no matter how venal?</p><p>Just askin'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... who does n't yet think that Bono is a sanctimonious hypocritical , posturing , corporate shill who is always willing to suck up to any big businessman or politician he can grab a photo opportunity with , no matter how venal ? Just askin'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... who doesn't yet think that Bono is a sanctimonious hypocritical, posturing, corporate shill who is always willing to suck up to any big businessman or politician he can grab a photo opportunity with, no matter how venal?Just askin'</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30638212</id>
	<title>Happening already right now</title>
	<author>Max\_W</author>
	<datestamp>1262636040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The pages about some topics of nuclear physics were removed from the university textbooks. In some cases the textbooks were collected and destroyed. Knowledge do can be a dangerous thing.</p><p>Now after some secret international consultations the Open Source is about to go this way. MySQL was already bought first by "Sun", then by "Oracle". PHP will be bought before long by "IBM".</p><p>Network computing will be available only to selected ones, who have an access to the proprietary IDE, like Visual Studio, etc.</p><p>More about these international consultations from this podcast <a href="http://feeds.tvo.org/tvo/searchengine" title="tvo.org">http://feeds.tvo.org/tvo/searchengine</a> [tvo.org] from Canada. Actually the new World Order is in the making.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The pages about some topics of nuclear physics were removed from the university textbooks .
In some cases the textbooks were collected and destroyed .
Knowledge do can be a dangerous thing.Now after some secret international consultations the Open Source is about to go this way .
MySQL was already bought first by " Sun " , then by " Oracle " .
PHP will be bought before long by " IBM " .Network computing will be available only to selected ones , who have an access to the proprietary IDE , like Visual Studio , etc.More about these international consultations from this podcast http : //feeds.tvo.org/tvo/searchengine [ tvo.org ] from Canada .
Actually the new World Order is in the making .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The pages about some topics of nuclear physics were removed from the university textbooks.
In some cases the textbooks were collected and destroyed.
Knowledge do can be a dangerous thing.Now after some secret international consultations the Open Source is about to go this way.
MySQL was already bought first by "Sun", then by "Oracle".
PHP will be bought before long by "IBM".Network computing will be available only to selected ones, who have an access to the proprietary IDE, like Visual Studio, etc.More about these international consultations from this podcast http://feeds.tvo.org/tvo/searchengine [tvo.org] from Canada.
Actually the new World Order is in the making.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30640152</id>
	<title>Re:If this is what it takes to save music...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262617680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I hope most <b>thinking</b> humans would agree that this is too high a price to preserve the profitability of music.</p></div><p>Well, there's your problem.</p><p>Not too many of them left.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope most thinking humans would agree that this is too high a price to preserve the profitability of music.Well , there 's your problem.Not too many of them left .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope most thinking humans would agree that this is too high a price to preserve the profitability of music.Well, there's your problem.Not too many of them left.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635158</id>
	<title>Sigh ... copyright does not encourage creativity</title>
	<author>2TecTom</author>
	<datestamp>1262519880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure Bono, and for the alternative perspective, how about Janis Ian's? "The Internet, and downloading, are here to stay... Anyone who thinks otherwise should prepare themselves to end up on the slagheap of history." ~ <a href="http://www.janisian.com/article-internet\_debacle.html" title="janisian.com">http://www.janisian.com/article-internet\_debacle.html</a> [janisian.com]</p><p>Personally, I wonder how much music has been lost and locked up bu the music industry? Or how many musicians don't own their own songs? Or how many CDs were never cut, remain unreleased or are locked up in out of print limbo land? How many fat cat executives live it up while new talent can't pay the rent? and so on and so...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure Bono , and for the alternative perspective , how about Janis Ian 's ?
" The Internet , and downloading , are here to stay... Anyone who thinks otherwise should prepare themselves to end up on the slagheap of history .
" ~ http : //www.janisian.com/article-internet \ _debacle.html [ janisian.com ] Personally , I wonder how much music has been lost and locked up bu the music industry ?
Or how many musicians do n't own their own songs ?
Or how many CDs were never cut , remain unreleased or are locked up in out of print limbo land ?
How many fat cat executives live it up while new talent ca n't pay the rent ?
and so on and so.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure Bono, and for the alternative perspective, how about Janis Ian's?
"The Internet, and downloading, are here to stay... Anyone who thinks otherwise should prepare themselves to end up on the slagheap of history.
" ~ http://www.janisian.com/article-internet\_debacle.html [janisian.com]Personally, I wonder how much music has been lost and locked up bu the music industry?
Or how many musicians don't own their own songs?
Or how many CDs were never cut, remain unreleased or are locked up in out of print limbo land?
How many fat cat executives live it up while new talent can't pay the rent?
and so on and so...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636644</id>
	<title>Re:This came after...</title>
	<author>TapeCutter</author>
	<datestamp>1262531160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"Bono is proof positive that it's easy to be a renowned global humanitarian when you are richer than God. I wonder how much attention he'd have paid to world hunger, charity, global climate change, etc etc if he hadn't been lucky enough to meet Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois and he'd ended up as an Irish bricklayer playing weekends in a Duran Duran cover band."</i>
<br> <br>
If it's easy then why don't more than a handfull of the mega rich do it? - Is it the same reason that only a handfull of Irish bricklayers would devote that much effort to charity?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Bono is proof positive that it 's easy to be a renowned global humanitarian when you are richer than God .
I wonder how much attention he 'd have paid to world hunger , charity , global climate change , etc etc if he had n't been lucky enough to meet Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois and he 'd ended up as an Irish bricklayer playing weekends in a Duran Duran cover band .
" If it 's easy then why do n't more than a handfull of the mega rich do it ?
- Is it the same reason that only a handfull of Irish bricklayers would devote that much effort to charity ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Bono is proof positive that it's easy to be a renowned global humanitarian when you are richer than God.
I wonder how much attention he'd have paid to world hunger, charity, global climate change, etc etc if he hadn't been lucky enough to meet Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois and he'd ended up as an Irish bricklayer playing weekends in a Duran Duran cover band.
"
 
If it's easy then why don't more than a handfull of the mega rich do it?
- Is it the same reason that only a handfull of Irish bricklayers would devote that much effort to charity?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30639306</id>
	<title>Re:From Wikipedia</title>
	<author>CisJokey</author>
	<datestamp>1262609820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>WoW, great comparison. YMMD<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)
Have to note that...</htmltext>
<tokenext>WoW , great comparison .
YMMD : - ) Have to note that.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WoW, great comparison.
YMMD :-)
Have to note that...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635268</id>
	<title>shhhhhh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262520600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>shut the fuck up bono....diaf...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>shut the fuck up bono....diaf.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>shut the fuck up bono....diaf...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30638370</id>
	<title>Bono ain't the only failed muso...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262638380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>from Ireland to jump on the protectionist bandwaggon.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feargal\_Sharkey" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Feargal Sharkey</a> [wikipedia.org], of the "punk" band The Undertones joined the Dark Side when his solo career tanked in the early 90's.  His subsequent career has not been particularly edifying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>from Ireland to jump on the protectionist bandwaggon.Feargal Sharkey [ wikipedia.org ] , of the " punk " band The Undertones joined the Dark Side when his solo career tanked in the early 90 's .
His subsequent career has not been particularly edifying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>from Ireland to jump on the protectionist bandwaggon.Feargal Sharkey [wikipedia.org], of the "punk" band The Undertones joined the Dark Side when his solo career tanked in the early 90's.
His subsequent career has not been particularly edifying.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636238</id>
	<title>Re:One of these is not like the other...</title>
	<author>the\_fat\_kid</author>
	<datestamp>1262527380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>more like 2 of 5<br>I can still hear the comic Hetfield saying,"napster baaaad!"</p><p>here is to hoping that Bono and Lars Ulrich choke to death on the same dick.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>more like 2 of 5I can still hear the comic Hetfield saying , " napster baaaad !
" here is to hoping that Bono and Lars Ulrich choke to death on the same dick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>more like 2 of 5I can still hear the comic Hetfield saying,"napster baaaad!
"here is to hoping that Bono and Lars Ulrich choke to death on the same dick.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635086</id>
	<title>Poor Starving Moguls</title>
	<author>joeboomer628</author>
	<datestamp>1262519520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is his latest humanitarian project.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is his latest humanitarian project .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is his latest humanitarian project.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635900</id>
	<title>How much is the RIAAA paying Bono to say this?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262525160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think he might get some sympathy if it weren't for the RIAA...</p><p>1. Trying to overturn the doctrine of first sale.<br>2. Preventing artists from distributing their works outside the RIAA.<br>3. Audits showing that the RIAA was 1000 times more likely to make mistakes in their favor rather than in the artists favor.<br>4. Buying off congress for copyright extensions.<br>5. Buying off congress for the DMCA.<br>6. Trying to impose DRM.<br>7. Running a litigation extortion racquet.<br>8. Claiming copyrights for material that is not theirs.</p><p>And a few others I'm sure I missed. The RIAA is the wrong structure for the internet and they know it.  They won't be happy until they disrupt the internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think he might get some sympathy if it were n't for the RIAA...1 .
Trying to overturn the doctrine of first sale.2 .
Preventing artists from distributing their works outside the RIAA.3 .
Audits showing that the RIAA was 1000 times more likely to make mistakes in their favor rather than in the artists favor.4 .
Buying off congress for copyright extensions.5 .
Buying off congress for the DMCA.6 .
Trying to impose DRM.7 .
Running a litigation extortion racquet.8 .
Claiming copyrights for material that is not theirs.And a few others I 'm sure I missed .
The RIAA is the wrong structure for the internet and they know it .
They wo n't be happy until they disrupt the internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think he might get some sympathy if it weren't for the RIAA...1.
Trying to overturn the doctrine of first sale.2.
Preventing artists from distributing their works outside the RIAA.3.
Audits showing that the RIAA was 1000 times more likely to make mistakes in their favor rather than in the artists favor.4.
Buying off congress for copyright extensions.5.
Buying off congress for the DMCA.6.
Trying to impose DRM.7.
Running a litigation extortion racquet.8.
Claiming copyrights for material that is not theirs.And a few others I'm sure I missed.
The RIAA is the wrong structure for the internet and they know it.
They won't be happy until they disrupt the internet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637224</id>
	<title>Re:If this is what it takes to save music...</title>
	<author>DJ Particle</author>
	<datestamp>1262536980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even in taht situation, music wouldn't die, only the profit machine would.

Music would be back in the hands of the people who make music to make <b>music</b>, as opposed to the ones who make/manage music to make money.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even in taht situation , music would n't die , only the profit machine would .
Music would be back in the hands of the people who make music to make music , as opposed to the ones who make/manage music to make money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even in taht situation, music wouldn't die, only the profit machine would.
Music would be back in the hands of the people who make music to make music, as opposed to the ones who make/manage music to make money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637000</id>
	<title>Compare Child Porn . . .</title>
	<author>aplusjimages</author>
	<datestamp>1262534700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>. . . to pirated music. Nice Bono(r).</htmltext>
<tokenext>.
. .
to pirated music .
Nice Bono ( r ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.
. .
to pirated music.
Nice Bono(r).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30642114</id>
	<title>Re:He's a singer....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262626260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Imagine that a football player gave his view on copyright and innovation. You'd laugh. But a guy sings a song on the radio, and all the sudden his utterances appear in the NY Times?</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Why shouldn't a musician who earns a lot of money from copyright know about, say, copyright?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine that a football player gave his view on copyright and innovation .
You 'd laugh .
But a guy sings a song on the radio , and all the sudden his utterances appear in the NY Times ?
Why should n't a musician who earns a lot of money from copyright know about , say , copyright ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine that a football player gave his view on copyright and innovation.
You'd laugh.
But a guy sings a song on the radio, and all the sudden his utterances appear in the NY Times?
Why shouldn't a musician who earns a lot of money from copyright know about, say, copyright?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635216</id>
	<title>Just 4\%?</title>
	<author>Dulimano</author>
	<datestamp>1262520300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nice to hear that number. I was a bit worried that economic growth will suffer while things inevitably converge to their copyright-free state. But no, even the perfect demolition of a 4\% GDP industry would not ruin world economy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice to hear that number .
I was a bit worried that economic growth will suffer while things inevitably converge to their copyright-free state .
But no , even the perfect demolition of a 4 \ % GDP industry would not ruin world economy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nice to hear that number.
I was a bit worried that economic growth will suffer while things inevitably converge to their copyright-free state.
But no, even the perfect demolition of a 4\% GDP industry would not ruin world economy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30638898</id>
	<title>Re:Perhaps..</title>
	<author>damburger</author>
	<datestamp>1262603160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can only hope so. At some point the general public have to realise that folk who played guitar instead of doing their maths homework do not have a god-given right to live in luxury for a couple of hours work a week.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can only hope so .
At some point the general public have to realise that folk who played guitar instead of doing their maths homework do not have a god-given right to live in luxury for a couple of hours work a week .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can only hope so.
At some point the general public have to realise that folk who played guitar instead of doing their maths homework do not have a god-given right to live in luxury for a couple of hours work a week.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635202</id>
	<title>Motivation Matters</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262520180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Greedy bugger.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Greedy bugger .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Greedy bugger.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30643740</id>
	<title>We need a basic income to fund arts, not copyright</title>
	<author>Paul Fernhout</author>
	<datestamp>1262632800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wikipedia: A basic income is a proposed system of social security, that periodically provides each citizen with a sum of money that allows the receiver to participate in society with human dignity. Except for citizenship, a basic income is entirely unconditional. Furthermore, there is no means test; the richest as well as the poorest citizens would receive it. The U.S. Basic Income Guarantee Network emphasizes this absence of means testing in its precise definition, "The Basic Income Guarantee is an unconditional, government-insured guarantee that all citizens will have enough income to meet their basic needs."<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic\_income" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic\_income</a> [wikipedia.org]<br><a href="http://www.basicincome.org/bien/aboutbasicincome.html" title="basicincome.org">http://www.basicincome.org/bien/aboutbasicincome.html</a> [basicincome.org]<br><a href="http://www.usbig.net/whatisbig.html" title="usbig.net">http://www.usbig.net/whatisbig.html</a> [usbig.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wikipedia : A basic income is a proposed system of social security , that periodically provides each citizen with a sum of money that allows the receiver to participate in society with human dignity .
Except for citizenship , a basic income is entirely unconditional .
Furthermore , there is no means test ; the richest as well as the poorest citizens would receive it .
The U.S. Basic Income Guarantee Network emphasizes this absence of means testing in its precise definition , " The Basic Income Guarantee is an unconditional , government-insured guarantee that all citizens will have enough income to meet their basic needs .
" http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic \ _income [ wikipedia.org ] http : //www.basicincome.org/bien/aboutbasicincome.html [ basicincome.org ] http : //www.usbig.net/whatisbig.html [ usbig.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wikipedia: A basic income is a proposed system of social security, that periodically provides each citizen with a sum of money that allows the receiver to participate in society with human dignity.
Except for citizenship, a basic income is entirely unconditional.
Furthermore, there is no means test; the richest as well as the poorest citizens would receive it.
The U.S. Basic Income Guarantee Network emphasizes this absence of means testing in its precise definition, "The Basic Income Guarantee is an unconditional, government-insured guarantee that all citizens will have enough income to meet their basic needs.
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic\_income [wikipedia.org]http://www.basicincome.org/bien/aboutbasicincome.html [basicincome.org]http://www.usbig.net/whatisbig.html [usbig.net]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637426</id>
	<title>Re:Note to Bono:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262539020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Note to Bono: EAT A DICK.</p></div><p>Poor guy, and I'm not talking about Bono.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Note to Bono : EAT A DICK.Poor guy , and I 'm not talking about Bono .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Note to Bono: EAT A DICK.Poor guy, and I'm not talking about Bono.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635160</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30639732</id>
	<title>Re:We are better off without such charitable peopl</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262614320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well if downloading a U2 album is comparable to downloading child pornography, is creating a U2 album comparable to creating child pornography?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well if downloading a U2 album is comparable to downloading child pornography , is creating a U2 album comparable to creating child pornography ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well if downloading a U2 album is comparable to downloading child pornography, is creating a U2 album comparable to creating child pornography?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635950</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636188</id>
	<title>It's simple, really</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262527020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most people that have grown up with the Internet will never, ever pay for content.  They will download it for free, legally or illegally.  Trying to get them to pay will simply force more illegal downloads.</p><p>The older people that are paying - because mostly they don't know how to download for free - will die soon.  When they pass on, there will be nobody paying.  Period.</p><p>Failure to understand this leads to discussions about piracy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most people that have grown up with the Internet will never , ever pay for content .
They will download it for free , legally or illegally .
Trying to get them to pay will simply force more illegal downloads.The older people that are paying - because mostly they do n't know how to download for free - will die soon .
When they pass on , there will be nobody paying .
Period.Failure to understand this leads to discussions about piracy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most people that have grown up with the Internet will never, ever pay for content.
They will download it for free, legally or illegally.
Trying to get them to pay will simply force more illegal downloads.The older people that are paying - because mostly they don't know how to download for free - will die soon.
When they pass on, there will be nobody paying.
Period.Failure to understand this leads to discussions about piracy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635126</id>
	<title>Bono wishes his music was good enough to pirate</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262519700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously.  I wouldn't even waste my neighbors free bandwidth to download anything U2 has put out in over a decade...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously .
I would n't even waste my neighbors free bandwidth to download anything U2 has put out in over a decade.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously.
I wouldn't even waste my neighbors free bandwidth to download anything U2 has put out in over a decade...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635192</id>
	<title>What is it about the "Bono" name?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262520120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tell him to go skiing, really fast.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tell him to go skiing , really fast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tell him to go skiing, really fast.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635398</id>
	<title>Re:From Wikipedia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262521380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bono can only afford 5 houses because he <a href="http://www.google.nl/search?q=u2+tax+evasion" title="google.nl">doesn't pay tax</a> [google.nl] like anyone else does.
Funny how someone stealing from his own country can critisize people that don't even steal, but copy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bono can only afford 5 houses because he does n't pay tax [ google.nl ] like anyone else does .
Funny how someone stealing from his own country can critisize people that do n't even steal , but copy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bono can only afford 5 houses because he doesn't pay tax [google.nl] like anyone else does.
Funny how someone stealing from his own country can critisize people that don't even steal, but copy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635084</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637768</id>
	<title>Re:Either he doesn't get it, or he doesn't care...</title>
	<author>stimpleton</author>
	<datestamp>1262543280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Years ago I ran a parody website in my smallish town. My coup-de-etat was my "paedophiles-hang-their-six-packs-of-yogurt-on-the-side-of-their-supermarket-trolley" expose.
I quoted  a fictional study, used actual photos with the censor strip over the face, and mock interviews with supposed paedophiles that all hung the yogurt on the side of their trolley. The local newspaper picked up the story. Apparently the incidents of the six packs *in the trolley* went thru the roof according to my checkout friend.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Years ago I ran a parody website in my smallish town .
My coup-de-etat was my " paedophiles-hang-their-six-packs-of-yogurt-on-the-side-of-their-supermarket-trolley " expose .
I quoted a fictional study , used actual photos with the censor strip over the face , and mock interviews with supposed paedophiles that all hung the yogurt on the side of their trolley .
The local newspaper picked up the story .
Apparently the incidents of the six packs * in the trolley * went thru the roof according to my checkout friend .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Years ago I ran a parody website in my smallish town.
My coup-de-etat was my "paedophiles-hang-their-six-packs-of-yogurt-on-the-side-of-their-supermarket-trolley" expose.
I quoted  a fictional study, used actual photos with the censor strip over the face, and mock interviews with supposed paedophiles that all hung the yogurt on the side of their trolley.
The local newspaper picked up the story.
Apparently the incidents of the six packs *in the trolley* went thru the roof according to my checkout friend.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635510</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637344</id>
	<title>His opinion on people power is also daft.</title>
	<author>Maxo-Texas</author>
	<datestamp>1262538240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"People Power and the Upside-Down Pyramid"</p><p>This opinion is so far from reality where a few very powerful people step on other people, take their property, deny them their rights, etc. on a regular basis.</p><p>Perhaps for those areas where a wealthy person like Bono backs them up, people power works.</p><p>Mostly, corporations and the wealthy just step all over you and as long as they don't physically injure you, the legal system has become such a farce, that the worst result is some rich, powerful attorney makes several million dollars, and you get a check for $42.50 to cover your being ripped off for a few grand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" People Power and the Upside-Down Pyramid " This opinion is so far from reality where a few very powerful people step on other people , take their property , deny them their rights , etc .
on a regular basis.Perhaps for those areas where a wealthy person like Bono backs them up , people power works.Mostly , corporations and the wealthy just step all over you and as long as they do n't physically injure you , the legal system has become such a farce , that the worst result is some rich , powerful attorney makes several million dollars , and you get a check for $ 42.50 to cover your being ripped off for a few grand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"People Power and the Upside-Down Pyramid"This opinion is so far from reality where a few very powerful people step on other people, take their property, deny them their rights, etc.
on a regular basis.Perhaps for those areas where a wealthy person like Bono backs them up, people power works.Mostly, corporations and the wealthy just step all over you and as long as they don't physically injure you, the legal system has become such a farce, that the worst result is some rich, powerful attorney makes several million dollars, and you get a check for $42.50 to cover your being ripped off for a few grand.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636368</id>
	<title>wow, Bono has no idea what he is in for</title>
	<author>Dan667</author>
	<datestamp>1262528520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Music Lovers are still mad at lars and metallica for their attacks on Napster.  Even now, metallica gets hounded online by people anytime they are mentioned as being greedy jerks who hate music.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Music Lovers are still mad at lars and metallica for their attacks on Napster .
Even now , metallica gets hounded online by people anytime they are mentioned as being greedy jerks who hate music .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Music Lovers are still mad at lars and metallica for their attacks on Napster.
Even now, metallica gets hounded online by people anytime they are mentioned as being greedy jerks who hate music.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30638678</id>
	<title>Re:If this is what it takes to save music...</title>
	<author>Antiocheian</author>
	<datestamp>1262600040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd say that we should let <b>profiting</b> from recorded music die.</p><p>Music won't die, although celebrities like Bono will be a thing of the past.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd say that we should let profiting from recorded music die.Music wo n't die , although celebrities like Bono will be a thing of the past .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd say that we should let profiting from recorded music die.Music won't die, although celebrities like Bono will be a thing of the past.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635266</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635312</id>
	<title>Perhaps..</title>
	<author>headkase</author>
	<datestamp>1262520840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Music will just become a "real" job, you know one where you go to play 9-5 (or 6-2 depending on audience) and you make your days pay, thats it, go home and have a beer.  Not the lottery where everyone goes poor except for a few.  Direct band to fan is where it'll probably end up being, a few will make it big and to be fair maybe the "rock-star" lifestyle should die.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Music will just become a " real " job , you know one where you go to play 9-5 ( or 6-2 depending on audience ) and you make your days pay , thats it , go home and have a beer .
Not the lottery where everyone goes poor except for a few .
Direct band to fan is where it 'll probably end up being , a few will make it big and to be fair maybe the " rock-star " lifestyle should die .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Music will just become a "real" job, you know one where you go to play 9-5 (or 6-2 depending on audience) and you make your days pay, thats it, go home and have a beer.
Not the lottery where everyone goes poor except for a few.
Direct band to fan is where it'll probably end up being, a few will make it big and to be fair maybe the "rock-star" lifestyle should die.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30642142</id>
	<title>Re:This came after...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262626380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While I basically agree with this depiction of Bono, don't forget that South Park is shameless right-wing propaganda pretending to be "libertarian".  Or are you one of those people who claim that they are "equal-opportunity offenders?"  Please compare how often they attack left-wing figures and ideas versus right-wing ones, and get back to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While I basically agree with this depiction of Bono , do n't forget that South Park is shameless right-wing propaganda pretending to be " libertarian " .
Or are you one of those people who claim that they are " equal-opportunity offenders ?
" Please compare how often they attack left-wing figures and ideas versus right-wing ones , and get back to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I basically agree with this depiction of Bono, don't forget that South Park is shameless right-wing propaganda pretending to be "libertarian".
Or are you one of those people who claim that they are "equal-opportunity offenders?
"  Please compare how often they attack left-wing figures and ideas versus right-wing ones, and get back to me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635506</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636216</id>
	<title>I'm home Honey</title>
	<author>MooPi</author>
	<datestamp>1262527320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I new there was a reason I viewed slashdot. It's not because I understand half the geek speak it's because I think like a slashdot'r. I've always thought that Bono was to self impressed and righteous floater...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I new there was a reason I viewed slashdot .
It 's not because I understand half the geek speak it 's because I think like a slashdot'r .
I 've always thought that Bono was to self impressed and righteous floater.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I new there was a reason I viewed slashdot.
It's not because I understand half the geek speak it's because I think like a slashdot'r.
I've always thought that Bono was to self impressed and righteous floater...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636794</id>
	<title>Re:Bono... your math is wrong...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262532720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nick Mason (the drummer from Pink Floyd) has said that one of the reasons why Dark Side of the Moon was so successful is because the record companies got off of their asses and started doing what they were supposed to do: market the album. (I think I heard that from a BBC documentary.) And I think their is some truth to it, marketing was/is important and the internet didn't exist in 1973 to help market DSOTM.</p><p>And I'm too young/poor to see Gilmour/Roger live, but I have seen some tribute bands (which are also awesome) and I'm sure part of my ticket went to the remaining members.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nick Mason ( the drummer from Pink Floyd ) has said that one of the reasons why Dark Side of the Moon was so successful is because the record companies got off of their asses and started doing what they were supposed to do : market the album .
( I think I heard that from a BBC documentary .
) And I think their is some truth to it , marketing was/is important and the internet did n't exist in 1973 to help market DSOTM.And I 'm too young/poor to see Gilmour/Roger live , but I have seen some tribute bands ( which are also awesome ) and I 'm sure part of my ticket went to the remaining members .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nick Mason (the drummer from Pink Floyd) has said that one of the reasons why Dark Side of the Moon was so successful is because the record companies got off of their asses and started doing what they were supposed to do: market the album.
(I think I heard that from a BBC documentary.
) And I think their is some truth to it, marketing was/is important and the internet didn't exist in 1973 to help market DSOTM.And I'm too young/poor to see Gilmour/Roger live, but I have seen some tribute bands (which are also awesome) and I'm sure part of my ticket went to the remaining members.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635118</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635332</id>
	<title>Re:Sorry</title>
	<author>Dolphinzilla</author>
	<datestamp>1262520900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>from another Irish Slashdotter - I agree !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>from another Irish Slashdotter - I agree !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>from another Irish Slashdotter - I agree !</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635064</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30639460</id>
	<title>AllOfMP3 is legal.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262611680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>AllOfMP3 is legal. If it weren't then the uploader on P2P would be free of charge. Jammie would disagree.</p><p>AllOfMP3 is only illegal if the copy being made is where the recipient is. They have a license in Russia to make the copy and the cut required is made available (except the RIAA refuse to accept the money waiting). So they have 100\% license to make the copy.</p><p>They can only be illegal if the copier who paid for it is the one who needs the license.</p><p>But if that were true, "making available" is not a crime. P2P seeders would not be at fault. Because they don't need the license.</p><p>If both ends need a license, then they're double-dipping and it's up to RIAA to collect from the purchasers, not AllOfMP3.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>AllOfMP3 is legal .
If it were n't then the uploader on P2P would be free of charge .
Jammie would disagree.AllOfMP3 is only illegal if the copy being made is where the recipient is .
They have a license in Russia to make the copy and the cut required is made available ( except the RIAA refuse to accept the money waiting ) .
So they have 100 \ % license to make the copy.They can only be illegal if the copier who paid for it is the one who needs the license.But if that were true , " making available " is not a crime .
P2P seeders would not be at fault .
Because they do n't need the license.If both ends need a license , then they 're double-dipping and it 's up to RIAA to collect from the purchasers , not AllOfMP3 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AllOfMP3 is legal.
If it weren't then the uploader on P2P would be free of charge.
Jammie would disagree.AllOfMP3 is only illegal if the copy being made is where the recipient is.
They have a license in Russia to make the copy and the cut required is made available (except the RIAA refuse to accept the money waiting).
So they have 100\% license to make the copy.They can only be illegal if the copier who paid for it is the one who needs the license.But if that were true, "making available" is not a crime.
P2P seeders would not be at fault.
Because they don't need the license.If both ends need a license, then they're double-dipping and it's up to RIAA to collect from the purchasers, not AllOfMP3.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635660</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635154</id>
	<title>WHO GIVES A SHIT</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262519880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why the fuck would i care what an iggnorany celebrity has to say on the issue.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why the fuck would i care what an iggnorany celebrity has to say on the issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why the fuck would i care what an iggnorany celebrity has to say on the issue.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635676</id>
	<title>Re:From Wikipedia</title>
	<author>truthsearch</author>
	<datestamp>1262523420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. We don't automatically "lose" if China "wins".</p><p>2. The US economy is not primarily based on works of art.</p><p>3. There are plenty of ways for creators to make money outside of copyright controls. E.g. Public performances, works for hire, teaching, consuling...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
We do n't automatically " lose " if China " wins " .2 .
The US economy is not primarily based on works of art.3 .
There are plenty of ways for creators to make money outside of copyright controls .
E.g. Public performances , works for hire , teaching , consuling.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
We don't automatically "lose" if China "wins".2.
The US economy is not primarily based on works of art.3.
There are plenty of ways for creators to make money outside of copyright controls.
E.g. Public performances, works for hire, teaching, consuling...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635264</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636062</id>
	<title>Re:This came after...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262526300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, it's so strange that the only philanthropists you ever hear about are the rich ones.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it 's so strange that the only philanthropists you ever hear about are the rich ones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it's so strange that the only philanthropists you ever hear about are the rich ones.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635356</id>
	<title>4 percent ...</title>
	<author>BenBoy</author>
	<datestamp>1262521080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... and after all, isn't 4 percent of our current commerce, as things are structured now, worth sacrificing our natural right to privacy?</htmltext>
<tokenext>... and after all , is n't 4 percent of our current commerce , as things are structured now , worth sacrificing our natural right to privacy ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... and after all, isn't 4 percent of our current commerce, as things are structured now, worth sacrificing our natural right to privacy?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635264</id>
	<title>Re:From Wikipedia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262520600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nobody is feeling sorry for Bono, but it's easy to dismiss less popular musicians as failures or has-beens when they speak out on this issue.</p><p>While I appreciate that many of the posters here are in the habit of locating and downloading copyrighted material whenever they please without asking or paying for it, I'm surprised that they don't realize the extent to which the economies of the US and Western Europe depend on a robust marketplace for copyrighted material that rewards creators for spending most of their lifetimes developing their crafts and material.</p><p>China has lots and lots of low-priced labor and is very good at pumping out mass-produced material goods, including technologically advanced items.  The West can't match them, or many other developing nations for that.  We excel at innovation in software and technology, media, the arts.  Take away the market for digital goods (or reduce it to some small fraction of itself by encouraging people to donate or pay for what they can get for free), and China wins.  Massively.  We might as well start requiring kids in middle school to start learning Mandarin, because that'll be a language they'll need to know by the time they make their way in the world.</p><p>That's something that the Obama (and Bush) administrations and Congress for the most part understand, and I think that's why there's such a disconnect between the US government and the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. crowd.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobody is feeling sorry for Bono , but it 's easy to dismiss less popular musicians as failures or has-beens when they speak out on this issue.While I appreciate that many of the posters here are in the habit of locating and downloading copyrighted material whenever they please without asking or paying for it , I 'm surprised that they do n't realize the extent to which the economies of the US and Western Europe depend on a robust marketplace for copyrighted material that rewards creators for spending most of their lifetimes developing their crafts and material.China has lots and lots of low-priced labor and is very good at pumping out mass-produced material goods , including technologically advanced items .
The West ca n't match them , or many other developing nations for that .
We excel at innovation in software and technology , media , the arts .
Take away the market for digital goods ( or reduce it to some small fraction of itself by encouraging people to donate or pay for what they can get for free ) , and China wins .
Massively. We might as well start requiring kids in middle school to start learning Mandarin , because that 'll be a language they 'll need to know by the time they make their way in the world.That 's something that the Obama ( and Bush ) administrations and Congress for the most part understand , and I think that 's why there 's such a disconnect between the US government and the / .
crowd .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobody is feeling sorry for Bono, but it's easy to dismiss less popular musicians as failures or has-beens when they speak out on this issue.While I appreciate that many of the posters here are in the habit of locating and downloading copyrighted material whenever they please without asking or paying for it, I'm surprised that they don't realize the extent to which the economies of the US and Western Europe depend on a robust marketplace for copyrighted material that rewards creators for spending most of their lifetimes developing their crafts and material.China has lots and lots of low-priced labor and is very good at pumping out mass-produced material goods, including technologically advanced items.
The West can't match them, or many other developing nations for that.
We excel at innovation in software and technology, media, the arts.
Take away the market for digital goods (or reduce it to some small fraction of itself by encouraging people to donate or pay for what they can get for free), and China wins.
Massively.  We might as well start requiring kids in middle school to start learning Mandarin, because that'll be a language they'll need to know by the time they make their way in the world.That's something that the Obama (and Bush) administrations and Congress for the most part understand, and I think that's why there's such a disconnect between the US government and the /.
crowd.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635178</id>
	<title>Re:Sorry</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262520060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Floaters are hard to flush. You usually need to anchor them down with a lot of toilet paper. And pray you don't have a water efficient toilet!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Floaters are hard to flush .
You usually need to anchor them down with a lot of toilet paper .
And pray you do n't have a water efficient toilet !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Floaters are hard to flush.
You usually need to anchor them down with a lot of toilet paper.
And pray you don't have a water efficient toilet!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636086</id>
	<title>Re:From Wikipedia</title>
	<author>bane2571</author>
	<datestamp>1262526420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Forgetting the obvious falacy that the USA needs to "beat" China, or even for that matter can "beat" China.
<br> <br>
China GDP: US$4.6 trillion (nominal; ranked 3rd; 2008)<br>
USA GDP: $14.441 trillion (2008
<br> <br>
From the summary the entertainment industry is 4\% of GDP or 0.576 trillion. Even completely without that, USA would be blowing china out of the water. I don't see how you can claim that "china wins massively" if the US entertainment industry fails.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Forgetting the obvious falacy that the USA needs to " beat " China , or even for that matter can " beat " China .
China GDP : US $ 4.6 trillion ( nominal ; ranked 3rd ; 2008 ) USA GDP : $ 14.441 trillion ( 2008 From the summary the entertainment industry is 4 \ % of GDP or 0.576 trillion .
Even completely without that , USA would be blowing china out of the water .
I do n't see how you can claim that " china wins massively " if the US entertainment industry fails .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Forgetting the obvious falacy that the USA needs to "beat" China, or even for that matter can "beat" China.
China GDP: US$4.6 trillion (nominal; ranked 3rd; 2008)
USA GDP: $14.441 trillion (2008
 
From the summary the entertainment industry is 4\% of GDP or 0.576 trillion.
Even completely without that, USA would be blowing china out of the water.
I don't see how you can claim that "china wins massively" if the US entertainment industry fails.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30638242</id>
	<title>Re:We are better off without such charitable peopl</title>
	<author>uninformedLuddite</author>
	<datestamp>1262636400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What would you expect from someone who was such a <a href="http://www.rightwingnews.com/humor/bono.php" title="rightwingnews.com" rel="nofollow">big supporter of George W. Bush</a> [rightwingnews.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>What would you expect from someone who was such a big supporter of George W. Bush [ rightwingnews.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What would you expect from someone who was such a big supporter of George W. Bush [rightwingnews.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635082</id>
	<title>well..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262519460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think Bono shoud piss off, and I'm Irish. He can get his hands off my content. I download 1llegally all the time but it's for mainstream crap mostly.<br>The lesser known music, some of which I bought only a few weeks ago at the istore can't be found illegally, and most importantly, without free clips of it I got off youtube, I wouldn't even know it existed. So, I seem to be helping out the little guy a lot more than I was through the internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Bono shoud piss off , and I 'm Irish .
He can get his hands off my content .
I download 1llegally all the time but it 's for mainstream crap mostly.The lesser known music , some of which I bought only a few weeks ago at the istore ca n't be found illegally , and most importantly , without free clips of it I got off youtube , I would n't even know it existed .
So , I seem to be helping out the little guy a lot more than I was through the internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Bono shoud piss off, and I'm Irish.
He can get his hands off my content.
I download 1llegally all the time but it's for mainstream crap mostly.The lesser known music, some of which I bought only a few weeks ago at the istore can't be found illegally, and most importantly, without free clips of it I got off youtube, I wouldn't even know it existed.
So, I seem to be helping out the little guy a lot more than I was through the internet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635764</id>
	<title>Re:This came after...</title>
	<author>jollyreaper</author>
	<datestamp>1262524140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This came after Bono spent hours searching for his music on torrent sites. Apparently he still hasn't found what he's looking for.</p></div><p>Worked out better for him than it did for Pete Townshend and his anti-kidde porn crusade.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This came after Bono spent hours searching for his music on torrent sites .
Apparently he still has n't found what he 's looking for.Worked out better for him than it did for Pete Townshend and his anti-kidde porn crusade .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This came after Bono spent hours searching for his music on torrent sites.
Apparently he still hasn't found what he's looking for.Worked out better for him than it did for Pete Townshend and his anti-kidde porn crusade.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636096</id>
	<title>Ramble but a good one!</title>
	<author>BlackBloq</author>
	<datestamp>1262526420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The only time the powers that be can keep up with the masses is when the tech has been standing still for to long and became ultra public. IRC has been here for years and ftp has been used along with direct transfers and per chat channel credit system for upload/download(virtually the same as say the Wildcat BBS with the credit system. They didn't get busted cuz there are no masses using the tech. Back in the day you had actual pirates selling disks that has big mixes of stuff, like when you could cram 200 apps in 2 CDroms. Downloading 1400mb or so over even a 56k baud modem was slow as hell. So some people got these big mix disks then copied them all they could. The US government has ground sensors at the border with Mexico and all this high tech stuff but the smugglers still get drugs/people through. That's with low tech solutions. Not the collective thinking power of every hobby coder in the planet. Look at DRM it takes weeks or days for some 15 year old to break a unknown (see DVD John) encryption scheme. So "let them eat cake", all they want.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only time the powers that be can keep up with the masses is when the tech has been standing still for to long and became ultra public .
IRC has been here for years and ftp has been used along with direct transfers and per chat channel credit system for upload/download ( virtually the same as say the Wildcat BBS with the credit system .
They did n't get busted cuz there are no masses using the tech .
Back in the day you had actual pirates selling disks that has big mixes of stuff , like when you could cram 200 apps in 2 CDroms .
Downloading 1400mb or so over even a 56k baud modem was slow as hell .
So some people got these big mix disks then copied them all they could .
The US government has ground sensors at the border with Mexico and all this high tech stuff but the smugglers still get drugs/people through .
That 's with low tech solutions .
Not the collective thinking power of every hobby coder in the planet .
Look at DRM it takes weeks or days for some 15 year old to break a unknown ( see DVD John ) encryption scheme .
So " let them eat cake " , all they want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only time the powers that be can keep up with the masses is when the tech has been standing still for to long and became ultra public.
IRC has been here for years and ftp has been used along with direct transfers and per chat channel credit system for upload/download(virtually the same as say the Wildcat BBS with the credit system.
They didn't get busted cuz there are no masses using the tech.
Back in the day you had actual pirates selling disks that has big mixes of stuff, like when you could cram 200 apps in 2 CDroms.
Downloading 1400mb or so over even a 56k baud modem was slow as hell.
So some people got these big mix disks then copied them all they could.
The US government has ground sensors at the border with Mexico and all this high tech stuff but the smugglers still get drugs/people through.
That's with low tech solutions.
Not the collective thinking power of every hobby coder in the planet.
Look at DRM it takes weeks or days for some 15 year old to break a unknown (see DVD John) encryption scheme.
So "let them eat cake", all they want.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635118</id>
	<title>Bono... your math is wrong...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262519640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think independent artists and creativity have flourished in recent years.  The overproduced and overhyped "chosen" artists by the "Moguls" are mainly what's suffering.  Madonna and Bono can kiss my ass if they think they are being "hurt" by downloads.  They have made many times over the money they deserve for their media machines.</p><p>If you are a good artist, people will pay to see you live.</p><p>Let's go with a great band like Pink Floyd.  I have bought about 10+ albums from them over the past 20 years.  Millions of other people have as well.  I work my ass off for $50K/year.  They work their ass off too, and I would say that I am happy to give them a salary of $150K/year per band member.  How much money would we as fans have to spend to make that happen.  I can assure you it would be a FRACTION of what we have paid out of our pockets... and where does all that money go?  Lining the pokets of those who had nothing to do with the art or us listening to it.</p><p>Bono has lost touh with reality and his fans... as he gets older I don't expect him to get more clue.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think independent artists and creativity have flourished in recent years .
The overproduced and overhyped " chosen " artists by the " Moguls " are mainly what 's suffering .
Madonna and Bono can kiss my ass if they think they are being " hurt " by downloads .
They have made many times over the money they deserve for their media machines.If you are a good artist , people will pay to see you live.Let 's go with a great band like Pink Floyd .
I have bought about 10 + albums from them over the past 20 years .
Millions of other people have as well .
I work my ass off for $ 50K/year .
They work their ass off too , and I would say that I am happy to give them a salary of $ 150K/year per band member .
How much money would we as fans have to spend to make that happen .
I can assure you it would be a FRACTION of what we have paid out of our pockets... and where does all that money go ?
Lining the pokets of those who had nothing to do with the art or us listening to it.Bono has lost touh with reality and his fans... as he gets older I do n't expect him to get more clue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think independent artists and creativity have flourished in recent years.
The overproduced and overhyped "chosen" artists by the "Moguls" are mainly what's suffering.
Madonna and Bono can kiss my ass if they think they are being "hurt" by downloads.
They have made many times over the money they deserve for their media machines.If you are a good artist, people will pay to see you live.Let's go with a great band like Pink Floyd.
I have bought about 10+ albums from them over the past 20 years.
Millions of other people have as well.
I work my ass off for $50K/year.
They work their ass off too, and I would say that I am happy to give them a salary of $150K/year per band member.
How much money would we as fans have to spend to make that happen.
I can assure you it would be a FRACTION of what we have paid out of our pockets... and where does all that money go?
Lining the pokets of those who had nothing to do with the art or us listening to it.Bono has lost touh with reality and his fans... as he gets older I don't expect him to get more clue.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30647146</id>
	<title>Re:If this is what it takes to save music...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262603520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>then I guess we should let music industry die.</p></div><p>There, fixed that for you. Music won't die until the last human dies.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>then I guess we should let music industry die.There , fixed that for you .
Music wo n't die until the last human dies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>then I guess we should let music industry die.There, fixed that for you.
Music won't die until the last human dies.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635318</id>
	<title>He's a singer....</title>
	<author>tkrotchko</author>
	<datestamp>1262520900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do people expect singers and guitar players to have a unique view on life for all of us to share?</p><p>Imagine that a football player gave his view on copyright and innovation.  You'd laugh.  But a guy sings a song on the radio, and all the sudden his utterances appear in the NY Times?</p><p>Crazy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do people expect singers and guitar players to have a unique view on life for all of us to share ? Imagine that a football player gave his view on copyright and innovation .
You 'd laugh .
But a guy sings a song on the radio , and all the sudden his utterances appear in the NY Times ? Crazy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do people expect singers and guitar players to have a unique view on life for all of us to share?Imagine that a football player gave his view on copyright and innovation.
You'd laugh.
But a guy sings a song on the radio, and all the sudden his utterances appear in the NY Times?Crazy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636178</id>
	<title>"...where music, film, TV and video games</title>
	<author>countertrolling</author>
	<datestamp>1262526960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>help to account for nearly 4 percent of gross domestic product..."</p><p>And bootlegging accounts for the other 96\%..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>help to account for nearly 4 percent of gross domestic product... " And bootlegging accounts for the other 96 \ % . .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>help to account for nearly 4 percent of gross domestic product..."And bootlegging accounts for the other 96\%..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637892</id>
	<title>Re:We are better off without such charitable peopl</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262545560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Welcome to Slashdot: where your value as a human being depends you supporting their self-entitled, twisted demand for free entertainment.  Ah look, they modded you "flamebait".  What do you expect, reasonable discourse?  At this point, so many commenters just remind me of Gollum and his all-consuming desire for the ring.  Logic won't dissuade them any more than logic would persuade Gollum.  All they want is for someone to say what they want to hear.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to Slashdot : where your value as a human being depends you supporting their self-entitled , twisted demand for free entertainment .
Ah look , they modded you " flamebait " .
What do you expect , reasonable discourse ?
At this point , so many commenters just remind me of Gollum and his all-consuming desire for the ring .
Logic wo n't dissuade them any more than logic would persuade Gollum .
All they want is for someone to say what they want to hear .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to Slashdot: where your value as a human being depends you supporting their self-entitled, twisted demand for free entertainment.
Ah look, they modded you "flamebait".
What do you expect, reasonable discourse?
At this point, so many commenters just remind me of Gollum and his all-consuming desire for the ring.
Logic won't dissuade them any more than logic would persuade Gollum.
All they want is for someone to say what they want to hear.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635282</id>
	<title>An open letter to Bono</title>
	<author>Eugenia Loli</author>
	<datestamp>1262520660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Regulating downloads is impossible. And if it's made possible, it will come with a GREAT PRICE to indie artists. Bono is not an indie artist, so he sees the world from his point of view, but there are more indie artists than major ones, so I fail to see why Bono should have his way. I actually <a href="http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2010/01/03/u2s-bono-needs-a-clue/" title="gnomefiles.org">wrote a blog post</a> [gnomefiles.org] about all this, replying to Bono and explaining why he's wrong, on my own blog (I wrote it before I saw the Slashdot news post).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Regulating downloads is impossible .
And if it 's made possible , it will come with a GREAT PRICE to indie artists .
Bono is not an indie artist , so he sees the world from his point of view , but there are more indie artists than major ones , so I fail to see why Bono should have his way .
I actually wrote a blog post [ gnomefiles.org ] about all this , replying to Bono and explaining why he 's wrong , on my own blog ( I wrote it before I saw the Slashdot news post ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Regulating downloads is impossible.
And if it's made possible, it will come with a GREAT PRICE to indie artists.
Bono is not an indie artist, so he sees the world from his point of view, but there are more indie artists than major ones, so I fail to see why Bono should have his way.
I actually wrote a blog post [gnomefiles.org] about all this, replying to Bono and explaining why he's wrong, on my own blog (I wrote it before I saw the Slashdot news post).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30638044</id>
	<title>LOL</title>
	<author>grimw</author>
	<datestamp>1262547600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bono, LOL!  You're the biggest piece of shit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bono , LOL !
You 're the biggest piece of shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bono, LOL!
You're the biggest piece of shit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635292</id>
	<title>By the numbers</title>
	<author>mliu</author>
	<datestamp>1262520720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really wish that newspapers would cite their information so we could understand what they're basing their claims on.</p><p>Looking at the US government's Bureau of Economic Analysis Numbers, they seem to paint a very different picture than what he suggests:<br><a href="http://www.bea.gov/industry/gpotables/gpo\_action.cfm?anon=343982&amp;table\_id=24753&amp;format\_type=0" title="bea.gov">http://www.bea.gov/industry/gpotables/gpo\_action.cfm?anon=343982&amp;table\_id=24753&amp;format\_type=0</a> [bea.gov] [bea.gov]</p><p>The line for Motion picture and sound recording industries has been constant from 2003-2007 (with information from 2008 still not entered) at 0.3\%.</p><p>Bono claims, "music, film, TV and video games help to account for nearly 4 percent of gross domestic product". Assuming no tectonic shift in profits, that would suggest that video games are producing nearly 3.7\% of GDP, but the line for all Publishing industries (includes software) floats at around 1\% of GDP. So even including "real" software like Windows as well as books, we're not even close to 4\%.</p><p>Another factor which he neglects to consider is the scale of damage that would be done, both in terms of freedoms as well as innovation. Even if America and all of its best buddies were to enact this type of draconian censorship regime he advocates, I doubt that America's enemies would be as eager to join in. That would suggest a net effect of simply forcing innovation to move abroad to places that don't sign on or enforce.  One of the few areas where America is truly a global leader still seems to be in Internet services.  If foreign Internet services provide more to consumers that they want than American services, I don't doubt that American services on the Internet would be abandoned in a flash.  While I don't discount the importance of the export of America's pop culture abroad, the price to protect outdated business models seems like a weighty one.  Bono talks a lot, but I wonder how much depth he really puts into his thinking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really wish that newspapers would cite their information so we could understand what they 're basing their claims on.Looking at the US government 's Bureau of Economic Analysis Numbers , they seem to paint a very different picture than what he suggests : http : //www.bea.gov/industry/gpotables/gpo \ _action.cfm ? anon = 343982&amp;table \ _id = 24753&amp;format \ _type = 0 [ bea.gov ] [ bea.gov ] The line for Motion picture and sound recording industries has been constant from 2003-2007 ( with information from 2008 still not entered ) at 0.3 \ % .Bono claims , " music , film , TV and video games help to account for nearly 4 percent of gross domestic product " .
Assuming no tectonic shift in profits , that would suggest that video games are producing nearly 3.7 \ % of GDP , but the line for all Publishing industries ( includes software ) floats at around 1 \ % of GDP .
So even including " real " software like Windows as well as books , we 're not even close to 4 \ % .Another factor which he neglects to consider is the scale of damage that would be done , both in terms of freedoms as well as innovation .
Even if America and all of its best buddies were to enact this type of draconian censorship regime he advocates , I doubt that America 's enemies would be as eager to join in .
That would suggest a net effect of simply forcing innovation to move abroad to places that do n't sign on or enforce .
One of the few areas where America is truly a global leader still seems to be in Internet services .
If foreign Internet services provide more to consumers that they want than American services , I do n't doubt that American services on the Internet would be abandoned in a flash .
While I do n't discount the importance of the export of America 's pop culture abroad , the price to protect outdated business models seems like a weighty one .
Bono talks a lot , but I wonder how much depth he really puts into his thinking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really wish that newspapers would cite their information so we could understand what they're basing their claims on.Looking at the US government's Bureau of Economic Analysis Numbers, they seem to paint a very different picture than what he suggests:http://www.bea.gov/industry/gpotables/gpo\_action.cfm?anon=343982&amp;table\_id=24753&amp;format\_type=0 [bea.gov] [bea.gov]The line for Motion picture and sound recording industries has been constant from 2003-2007 (with information from 2008 still not entered) at 0.3\%.Bono claims, "music, film, TV and video games help to account for nearly 4 percent of gross domestic product".
Assuming no tectonic shift in profits, that would suggest that video games are producing nearly 3.7\% of GDP, but the line for all Publishing industries (includes software) floats at around 1\% of GDP.
So even including "real" software like Windows as well as books, we're not even close to 4\%.Another factor which he neglects to consider is the scale of damage that would be done, both in terms of freedoms as well as innovation.
Even if America and all of its best buddies were to enact this type of draconian censorship regime he advocates, I doubt that America's enemies would be as eager to join in.
That would suggest a net effect of simply forcing innovation to move abroad to places that don't sign on or enforce.
One of the few areas where America is truly a global leader still seems to be in Internet services.
If foreign Internet services provide more to consumers that they want than American services, I don't doubt that American services on the Internet would be abandoned in a flash.
While I don't discount the importance of the export of America's pop culture abroad, the price to protect outdated business models seems like a weighty one.
Bono talks a lot, but I wonder how much depth he really puts into his thinking.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635222</id>
	<title>Mom, look! That's me!</title>
	<author>N!NJA</author>
	<datestamp>1262520360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>cut the guy some slack.... maybe all he wants is to keep track of how many times his photo has appeared on the news or on the package of some gadget.</htmltext>
<tokenext>cut the guy some slack.... maybe all he wants is to keep track of how many times his photo has appeared on the news or on the package of some gadget .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>cut the guy some slack.... maybe all he wants is to keep track of how many times his photo has appeared on the news or on the package of some gadget.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636622</id>
	<title>Fuck you Bono</title>
	<author>seeker\_1us</author>
	<datestamp>1262531040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe "moguls" should be able to monitor your internet activity to make sure you don't embezzle any money from your charitable works?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe " moguls " should be able to monitor your internet activity to make sure you do n't embezzle any money from your charitable works ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe "moguls" should be able to monitor your internet activity to make sure you don't embezzle any money from your charitable works?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636714</id>
	<title>Perhaps</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262532060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>perhaps movie moguls will succeed where musicians and their moguls have failed so far</p></div></blockquote><p>Or perhaps your whole gang of mogollums will fail miserably and take your exploitive business model with you.</p><p>Digital information processing is already decades behind what it should be, thanks to these idiots impeding technological progress in order to enforce a failing concept of what information is.</p><p>The same disease is responsible for the BluRay/HDDVD format war and resulting delay, the DMCA, and patent trolls.</p><p>Fuck the lot of them. They are parasites on the technological society.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>perhaps movie moguls will succeed where musicians and their moguls have failed so farOr perhaps your whole gang of mogollums will fail miserably and take your exploitive business model with you.Digital information processing is already decades behind what it should be , thanks to these idiots impeding technological progress in order to enforce a failing concept of what information is.The same disease is responsible for the BluRay/HDDVD format war and resulting delay , the DMCA , and patent trolls.Fuck the lot of them .
They are parasites on the technological society .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>perhaps movie moguls will succeed where musicians and their moguls have failed so farOr perhaps your whole gang of mogollums will fail miserably and take your exploitive business model with you.Digital information processing is already decades behind what it should be, thanks to these idiots impeding technological progress in order to enforce a failing concept of what information is.The same disease is responsible for the BluRay/HDDVD format war and resulting delay, the DMCA, and patent trolls.Fuck the lot of them.
They are parasites on the technological society.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30638996</id>
	<title>Re:If this is what it takes to save music...</title>
	<author>hughperkins</author>
	<datestamp>1262604900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>'Britney Spears, or freedom.'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>'Britney Spears , or freedom .
'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'Britney Spears, or freedom.
'</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30640062</id>
	<title>losses from piracy greatly exaggerated</title>
	<author>K10W</author>
	<datestamp>1262617020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>big labels/studios etc always make ridiculous claims about how much they are losing when in fact if it were not for such easy free access to their products most people wouldn't even consider buying them. Many steal products they don't think are worth buying, as far as Bone-on is concerned I don't think it's even worth stealing.

Out of the ones who do steal what they would have bough many do end up buying it and simply use the free copy as evaluation. I don't tend to steal music since if it's not worth buying I don't think it's worth my time listening to really. Some artists I have downloaded to see if I considered it a worthy purchase since I can't return jack shit to an actual store counter due to "piracy" the way I used to be able to hence driving me the piracy route. If it was I bought it, and even from a selfish or unethical POV a hard copy and one I could encode in format/bitrate to my liking is always usefully anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>big labels/studios etc always make ridiculous claims about how much they are losing when in fact if it were not for such easy free access to their products most people would n't even consider buying them .
Many steal products they do n't think are worth buying , as far as Bone-on is concerned I do n't think it 's even worth stealing .
Out of the ones who do steal what they would have bough many do end up buying it and simply use the free copy as evaluation .
I do n't tend to steal music since if it 's not worth buying I do n't think it 's worth my time listening to really .
Some artists I have downloaded to see if I considered it a worthy purchase since I ca n't return jack shit to an actual store counter due to " piracy " the way I used to be able to hence driving me the piracy route .
If it was I bought it , and even from a selfish or unethical POV a hard copy and one I could encode in format/bitrate to my liking is always usefully anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>big labels/studios etc always make ridiculous claims about how much they are losing when in fact if it were not for such easy free access to their products most people wouldn't even consider buying them.
Many steal products they don't think are worth buying, as far as Bone-on is concerned I don't think it's even worth stealing.
Out of the ones who do steal what they would have bough many do end up buying it and simply use the free copy as evaluation.
I don't tend to steal music since if it's not worth buying I don't think it's worth my time listening to really.
Some artists I have downloaded to see if I considered it a worthy purchase since I can't return jack shit to an actual store counter due to "piracy" the way I used to be able to hence driving me the piracy route.
If it was I bought it, and even from a selfish or unethical POV a hard copy and one I could encode in format/bitrate to my liking is always usefully anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30641600</id>
	<title>Re:From Wikipedia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262624400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Bono can only afford 5 houses because he doesn't pay tax [google.nl] like anyone else does. Funny how someone stealing from his own country can critisize people that don't even steal, but copy.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Well, if a public figure like Bono had in fact committed the crime of theft/defrauding the Revenue, then he should have been arrested, tried and convicted for it by now, surely?
</p><p>
In fact, of course, he is "guilty" of tax evasion, not tax avoidance, so stop the hysterical talk of stealing. He's just done the rich person's version of talking to his accountant before submitting a tax return.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bono can only afford 5 houses because he does n't pay tax [ google.nl ] like anyone else does .
Funny how someone stealing from his own country can critisize people that do n't even steal , but copy .
Well , if a public figure like Bono had in fact committed the crime of theft/defrauding the Revenue , then he should have been arrested , tried and convicted for it by now , surely ?
In fact , of course , he is " guilty " of tax evasion , not tax avoidance , so stop the hysterical talk of stealing .
He 's just done the rich person 's version of talking to his accountant before submitting a tax return .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bono can only afford 5 houses because he doesn't pay tax [google.nl] like anyone else does.
Funny how someone stealing from his own country can critisize people that don't even steal, but copy.
Well, if a public figure like Bono had in fact committed the crime of theft/defrauding the Revenue, then he should have been arrested, tried and convicted for it by now, surely?
In fact, of course, he is "guilty" of tax evasion, not tax avoidance, so stop the hysterical talk of stealing.
He's just done the rich person's version of talking to his accountant before submitting a tax return.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635792</id>
	<title>Re:Either he doesn't get it, or he doesn't care...</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1262524380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Either Bono is just a fucktard, and hasn't really though this through, or he is willing to go to some very unpleasant places to protect his precious "content".</p></div><p>Can't is be "all of the above"?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Either Bono is just a fucktard , and has n't really though this through , or he is willing to go to some very unpleasant places to protect his precious " content " .Ca n't is be " all of the above " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Either Bono is just a fucktard, and hasn't really though this through, or he is willing to go to some very unpleasant places to protect his precious "content".Can't is be "all of the above"?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635506</id>
	<title>Re:This came after...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262522100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Apparently he still hasn't found what he's looking for.</p></div></blockquote><p>Whenever I think about Bono, the first thing that comes to mind is South Park's portrayal of him as a 5'10" walking, talking turd.</p><p>Bono is proof positive that it's easy to be a renowned global humanitarian when you are richer than God.  I wonder how much attention he'd have paid to world hunger, charity, global climate change, etc etc if he hadn't been lucky enough to meet Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois and he'd ended up as an Irish bricklayer playing weekends in a Duran Duran cover band.</p><p>I mean, good for him for trying to do something he thinks is good, but when he starts crying about losses of income from people downloading music, you realize he's just another bloated celebrity who thinks he's special in the eyes of god for winning the pop-star lottery.</p><p>I'm gonna go back and watch that South Park episode right now, where Randy goes for the record for the biggest bowel movement, and goes up against...well, I won't spoil it for you.  And, since apparently Comedy Central seems to have learned what Bono has not, I can do it legally, and for free, at SouthParkStudios.com.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently he still has n't found what he 's looking for.Whenever I think about Bono , the first thing that comes to mind is South Park 's portrayal of him as a 5'10 " walking , talking turd.Bono is proof positive that it 's easy to be a renowned global humanitarian when you are richer than God .
I wonder how much attention he 'd have paid to world hunger , charity , global climate change , etc etc if he had n't been lucky enough to meet Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois and he 'd ended up as an Irish bricklayer playing weekends in a Duran Duran cover band.I mean , good for him for trying to do something he thinks is good , but when he starts crying about losses of income from people downloading music , you realize he 's just another bloated celebrity who thinks he 's special in the eyes of god for winning the pop-star lottery.I 'm gon na go back and watch that South Park episode right now , where Randy goes for the record for the biggest bowel movement , and goes up against...well , I wo n't spoil it for you .
And , since apparently Comedy Central seems to have learned what Bono has not , I can do it legally , and for free , at SouthParkStudios.com .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently he still hasn't found what he's looking for.Whenever I think about Bono, the first thing that comes to mind is South Park's portrayal of him as a 5'10" walking, talking turd.Bono is proof positive that it's easy to be a renowned global humanitarian when you are richer than God.
I wonder how much attention he'd have paid to world hunger, charity, global climate change, etc etc if he hadn't been lucky enough to meet Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois and he'd ended up as an Irish bricklayer playing weekends in a Duran Duran cover band.I mean, good for him for trying to do something he thinks is good, but when he starts crying about losses of income from people downloading music, you realize he's just another bloated celebrity who thinks he's special in the eyes of god for winning the pop-star lottery.I'm gonna go back and watch that South Park episode right now, where Randy goes for the record for the biggest bowel movement, and goes up against...well, I won't spoil it for you.
And, since apparently Comedy Central seems to have learned what Bono has not, I can do it legally, and for free, at SouthParkStudios.com.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30676614</id>
	<title>Re:Note to Bono:</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1262780640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I&rsquo;d up that to: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzbURUrgQao" title="youtube.com">EAT A BAG OF DICKS</a> [youtube.com]!</p><p>[Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I    d up that to : EAT A BAG OF DICKS [ youtube.com ] !
[ Filter error : Do n't use so many caps .
It 's like YELLING .
]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I’d up that to: EAT A BAG OF DICKS [youtube.com]!
[Filter error: Don't use so many caps.
It's like YELLING.
]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637616</id>
	<title>Re:Note to Bono:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262541360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>the problem for most of these artists is that many of the traditional ways of discovering new music (radio, CD stores) have been bought up and monopolized by the majors.</i></p><p>What CD stores? The big music retailers have gone out of business, with Virgin Music closing its last few big city stores just recently.  Record labels are also struggling, with layoffs a near-annual occurrence, and they are increasingly less interested and able in sponsoring radio and new bands.  We are left with iTunes and amazon.com, and local record stores. Partly as a result of the malaise in the record industry, the trend in radio is towards talk and sports.</p><p>But there shouldn't be a problem what with a proliferation of independent web sites set up by genuine music lovers to promote and distribute music from the great new bands, right?  As well as the sites set up by the bands themselves.  At least that was the way people thought it was going to work.  It turns out that the much-criticized radio and record industries played valuable roles after all; you had professionals backed by the resources of substantial companies selecting, coaching, recording, and promoting talent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the problem for most of these artists is that many of the traditional ways of discovering new music ( radio , CD stores ) have been bought up and monopolized by the majors.What CD stores ?
The big music retailers have gone out of business , with Virgin Music closing its last few big city stores just recently .
Record labels are also struggling , with layoffs a near-annual occurrence , and they are increasingly less interested and able in sponsoring radio and new bands .
We are left with iTunes and amazon.com , and local record stores .
Partly as a result of the malaise in the record industry , the trend in radio is towards talk and sports.But there should n't be a problem what with a proliferation of independent web sites set up by genuine music lovers to promote and distribute music from the great new bands , right ?
As well as the sites set up by the bands themselves .
At least that was the way people thought it was going to work .
It turns out that the much-criticized radio and record industries played valuable roles after all ; you had professionals backed by the resources of substantial companies selecting , coaching , recording , and promoting talent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the problem for most of these artists is that many of the traditional ways of discovering new music (radio, CD stores) have been bought up and monopolized by the majors.What CD stores?
The big music retailers have gone out of business, with Virgin Music closing its last few big city stores just recently.
Record labels are also struggling, with layoffs a near-annual occurrence, and they are increasingly less interested and able in sponsoring radio and new bands.
We are left with iTunes and amazon.com, and local record stores.
Partly as a result of the malaise in the record industry, the trend in radio is towards talk and sports.But there shouldn't be a problem what with a proliferation of independent web sites set up by genuine music lovers to promote and distribute music from the great new bands, right?
As well as the sites set up by the bands themselves.
At least that was the way people thought it was going to work.
It turns out that the much-criticized radio and record industries played valuable roles after all; you had professionals backed by the resources of substantial companies selecting, coaching, recording, and promoting talent.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30638920</id>
	<title>Re:If this is what it takes to save music...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262603460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>nice put.. yet too fat</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>nice put.. yet too fat</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nice put.. yet too fat</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636318</id>
	<title>Re:Is there anyone left on this planet ...</title>
	<author>countertrolling</author>
	<datestamp>1262527980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The ones to ask that would be the folks who are waiting in line at the entrance of a sold out U2 concert..</p><p>Just sayin'<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The ones to ask that would be the folks who are waiting in line at the entrance of a sold out U2 concert..Just sayin ' : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The ones to ask that would be the folks who are waiting in line at the entrance of a sold out U2 concert..Just sayin' :-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636996</id>
	<title>Re:It's simple, really</title>
	<author>Mad Leper</author>
	<datestamp>1262534640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The only reason you have "free" stuff to download is because people like me are paying for it and in turn subsidizing your habit.</p><p>When people like me disappear, there will be no media of any kind for people like you to download.</p><p>Period.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only reason you have " free " stuff to download is because people like me are paying for it and in turn subsidizing your habit.When people like me disappear , there will be no media of any kind for people like you to download.Period .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only reason you have "free" stuff to download is because people like me are paying for it and in turn subsidizing your habit.When people like me disappear, there will be no media of any kind for people like you to download.Period.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30638806</id>
	<title>The Unforgettable Fire has gone out</title>
	<author>swordgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1262601960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Waaaay back when U2 was an edgy (ha!) band, I was in high school. We generally agreed that The Unforgettable Fire was either their last honest album, or their first descent into whininess.</p><p>Yeah, they've written some catchy tunes, but have they had anything to say as musicians since "Sunday Bloody Sunday" that justifies their arrogant, angsty, self-centred attitude?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Waaaay back when U2 was an edgy ( ha !
) band , I was in high school .
We generally agreed that The Unforgettable Fire was either their last honest album , or their first descent into whininess.Yeah , they 've written some catchy tunes , but have they had anything to say as musicians since " Sunday Bloody Sunday " that justifies their arrogant , angsty , self-centred attitude ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Waaaay back when U2 was an edgy (ha!
) band, I was in high school.
We generally agreed that The Unforgettable Fire was either their last honest album, or their first descent into whininess.Yeah, they've written some catchy tunes, but have they had anything to say as musicians since "Sunday Bloody Sunday" that justifies their arrogant, angsty, self-centred attitude?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635510</id>
	<title>Re:Either he doesn't get it, or he doesn't care...</title>
	<author>JaredOfEuropa</author>
	<datestamp>1262522100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Kiddy porn is a poor analogy but it is an <i>extremely</i> effective one to associate with whatever it is you hate.  In the eyes of the general public, reasonable arguments regarding DRM, privacy, probable cause, innocent until proven guilty, or any human right, vanish like a fart in the wind whenever someone mentions kiddie porn.  When someone plays that card, sniff around a little and you'll like as not smell a rat.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kiddy porn is a poor analogy but it is an extremely effective one to associate with whatever it is you hate .
In the eyes of the general public , reasonable arguments regarding DRM , privacy , probable cause , innocent until proven guilty , or any human right , vanish like a fart in the wind whenever someone mentions kiddie porn .
When someone plays that card , sniff around a little and you 'll like as not smell a rat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kiddy porn is a poor analogy but it is an extremely effective one to associate with whatever it is you hate.
In the eyes of the general public, reasonable arguments regarding DRM, privacy, probable cause, innocent until proven guilty, or any human right, vanish like a fart in the wind whenever someone mentions kiddie porn.
When someone plays that card, sniff around a little and you'll like as not smell a rat.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635180</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635250</id>
	<title>Tax minimisation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262520540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is why he is domicled for tax out of irland so that he &amp; U2 pay minimum tax.  The guy is a hipocrite - wants every one else to give but doesn't give himself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why he is domicled for tax out of irland so that he &amp; U2 pay minimum tax .
The guy is a hipocrite - wants every one else to give but does n't give himself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why he is domicled for tax out of irland so that he &amp; U2 pay minimum tax.
The guy is a hipocrite - wants every one else to give but doesn't give himself.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637712</id>
	<title>Just Replay that South Park Episode</title>
	<author>conark</author>
	<datestamp>1262542740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think it was "More Crap".  Everytime this guy opens his mouth, someone should just copy and paste a link to that episode as a reminder that Boner is the world's biggest piece of crap.  Matt and Trey must've had a premonition of Boner into a bigger piece of fecal matter when they came up with that episode.

<a href="http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/111250/" title="southparkstudios.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/111250/</a> [southparkstudios.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it was " More Crap " .
Everytime this guy opens his mouth , someone should just copy and paste a link to that episode as a reminder that Boner is the world 's biggest piece of crap .
Matt and Trey must 've had a premonition of Boner into a bigger piece of fecal matter when they came up with that episode .
http : //www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/111250/ [ southparkstudios.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it was "More Crap".
Everytime this guy opens his mouth, someone should just copy and paste a link to that episode as a reminder that Boner is the world's biggest piece of crap.
Matt and Trey must've had a premonition of Boner into a bigger piece of fecal matter when they came up with that episode.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/111250/ [southparkstudios.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635990</id>
	<title>Fuck Bono...</title>
	<author>BumpyCarrot</author>
	<datestamp>1262525760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... fuck him and his <a href="http://www.hecklerspray.com/bono-spends-thousands-on-transporting-hat/20051860.php" title="hecklerspray.com" rel="nofollow">stupid hat</a> [hecklerspray.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>... fuck him and his stupid hat [ hecklerspray.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... fuck him and his stupid hat [hecklerspray.com].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636498</id>
	<title>A fine idea, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262529780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Their definition of "Content tracking" probably means "Snoop on everybody, all the time, for any reason, or for no reason".  I guess I must be old fashioned to find that unacceptable under any conditions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Their definition of " Content tracking " probably means " Snoop on everybody , all the time , for any reason , or for no reason " .
I guess I must be old fashioned to find that unacceptable under any conditions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Their definition of "Content tracking" probably means "Snoop on everybody, all the time, for any reason, or for no reason".
I guess I must be old fashioned to find that unacceptable under any conditions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30638940</id>
	<title>You're no expert, Bono</title>
	<author>cheros</author>
	<datestamp>1262603820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't recall you having any basis in study for your uttering.  Just because you got rich hopping around on a stage wailing into a microphone doesn't make you an expert in everything.</p><p>No, all you have done now is discredited the good work you *did* manage to do.</p><p>I do not steal music, but I am just as likely to be dragged into court as anyone else because the detection methods used by the RIAA are (a) flawed and (b) irrelevant - they are not interested in the conviction per se, but the chilling effect.  Well, they have chilled two things: (1) my respect for the legal system, as I have seen it abused in many ways over the last 8 years and (2) my enthusiasm for buying music - I switched to web radio instead.  In the last 5 years I have bought ONE (1) CD, and I know I'm far from the only one.</p><p>You see, the RIAA idiots forget two things.  Firstly, those they sue now would have been their future customers.  Instead, by manipulating the amount of fines they will be denied a future.  So, no future sales.  Secondly, we age, which means what we like now is old tomorrow but we'll hang on to those records.  Again, no new sales.</p><p>Last but not least, there is another chilling effect.  For someone who is so-called "creative" you appear to have a short memory, or maybe that has been bought by the RIAA as well?  Any creativity has roots, has examples.  I have seen fantastic new ways in which music has developed based on examples people grew up with and experimented with.</p><p>What the RIAA is doing is chilling the experimental, the new growth.  That leaves only the manufactured bands, with a few exceptions (when the singers accidentally have talent too) - and that is on the decline because it's unoriginal crap which requires (costly) marketing to sell.  You could get a computer to make that stuff, and most sounds like it too.</p><p>So it's not just a child that dies every time you clap your hands (did you stop clapping?) - it's also the market that gave you the money to change from a moderately interesting singer to an idiot used by politicians and sales droids, and I haven't failed to notice that quite a few things you have been promoted involved making more money for the parties involved (like "RED" - buy our stuff and we'll give a -small- percentage to the cause).  Yes, money ruins a lot - U2, it seems..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't recall you having any basis in study for your uttering .
Just because you got rich hopping around on a stage wailing into a microphone does n't make you an expert in everything.No , all you have done now is discredited the good work you * did * manage to do.I do not steal music , but I am just as likely to be dragged into court as anyone else because the detection methods used by the RIAA are ( a ) flawed and ( b ) irrelevant - they are not interested in the conviction per se , but the chilling effect .
Well , they have chilled two things : ( 1 ) my respect for the legal system , as I have seen it abused in many ways over the last 8 years and ( 2 ) my enthusiasm for buying music - I switched to web radio instead .
In the last 5 years I have bought ONE ( 1 ) CD , and I know I 'm far from the only one.You see , the RIAA idiots forget two things .
Firstly , those they sue now would have been their future customers .
Instead , by manipulating the amount of fines they will be denied a future .
So , no future sales .
Secondly , we age , which means what we like now is old tomorrow but we 'll hang on to those records .
Again , no new sales.Last but not least , there is another chilling effect .
For someone who is so-called " creative " you appear to have a short memory , or maybe that has been bought by the RIAA as well ?
Any creativity has roots , has examples .
I have seen fantastic new ways in which music has developed based on examples people grew up with and experimented with.What the RIAA is doing is chilling the experimental , the new growth .
That leaves only the manufactured bands , with a few exceptions ( when the singers accidentally have talent too ) - and that is on the decline because it 's unoriginal crap which requires ( costly ) marketing to sell .
You could get a computer to make that stuff , and most sounds like it too.So it 's not just a child that dies every time you clap your hands ( did you stop clapping ?
) - it 's also the market that gave you the money to change from a moderately interesting singer to an idiot used by politicians and sales droids , and I have n't failed to notice that quite a few things you have been promoted involved making more money for the parties involved ( like " RED " - buy our stuff and we 'll give a -small- percentage to the cause ) .
Yes , money ruins a lot - U2 , it seems. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't recall you having any basis in study for your uttering.
Just because you got rich hopping around on a stage wailing into a microphone doesn't make you an expert in everything.No, all you have done now is discredited the good work you *did* manage to do.I do not steal music, but I am just as likely to be dragged into court as anyone else because the detection methods used by the RIAA are (a) flawed and (b) irrelevant - they are not interested in the conviction per se, but the chilling effect.
Well, they have chilled two things: (1) my respect for the legal system, as I have seen it abused in many ways over the last 8 years and (2) my enthusiasm for buying music - I switched to web radio instead.
In the last 5 years I have bought ONE (1) CD, and I know I'm far from the only one.You see, the RIAA idiots forget two things.
Firstly, those they sue now would have been their future customers.
Instead, by manipulating the amount of fines they will be denied a future.
So, no future sales.
Secondly, we age, which means what we like now is old tomorrow but we'll hang on to those records.
Again, no new sales.Last but not least, there is another chilling effect.
For someone who is so-called "creative" you appear to have a short memory, or maybe that has been bought by the RIAA as well?
Any creativity has roots, has examples.
I have seen fantastic new ways in which music has developed based on examples people grew up with and experimented with.What the RIAA is doing is chilling the experimental, the new growth.
That leaves only the manufactured bands, with a few exceptions (when the singers accidentally have talent too) - and that is on the decline because it's unoriginal crap which requires (costly) marketing to sell.
You could get a computer to make that stuff, and most sounds like it too.So it's not just a child that dies every time you clap your hands (did you stop clapping?
) - it's also the market that gave you the money to change from a moderately interesting singer to an idiot used by politicians and sales droids, and I haven't failed to notice that quite a few things you have been promoted involved making more money for the parties involved (like "RED" - buy our stuff and we'll give a -small- percentage to the cause).
Yes, money ruins a lot - U2, it seems..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635160</id>
	<title>Note to Bono:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262519880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Note to Bono: EAT A DICK.</p><p>The process of doing so will further require that you remove your head from your ass, so that should improve your ability to perceive reality at the same time.</p><p>The biggest problem facing most "small independent artists" is not people downloading their songs - it's NOBODY downloading the songs. Most (95\%) of the 100k+ albums released every year sell less than a hundred copies; the problem for most of these artists is that many of the traditional ways of discovering new music (radio, CD stores) have been bought up and monopolized by the majors. While the new media channels are available to everybody, getting "eyeballs" (OK, "ears") is still the hardest part.</p><p>Put another way: most "small independent artists" would love it if enough people were interested in their music to upload a torrent to TPB - at least then, *somebody* is listening.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Note to Bono : EAT A DICK.The process of doing so will further require that you remove your head from your ass , so that should improve your ability to perceive reality at the same time.The biggest problem facing most " small independent artists " is not people downloading their songs - it 's NOBODY downloading the songs .
Most ( 95 \ % ) of the 100k + albums released every year sell less than a hundred copies ; the problem for most of these artists is that many of the traditional ways of discovering new music ( radio , CD stores ) have been bought up and monopolized by the majors .
While the new media channels are available to everybody , getting " eyeballs " ( OK , " ears " ) is still the hardest part.Put another way : most " small independent artists " would love it if enough people were interested in their music to upload a torrent to TPB - at least then , * somebody * is listening .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Note to Bono: EAT A DICK.The process of doing so will further require that you remove your head from your ass, so that should improve your ability to perceive reality at the same time.The biggest problem facing most "small independent artists" is not people downloading their songs - it's NOBODY downloading the songs.
Most (95\%) of the 100k+ albums released every year sell less than a hundred copies; the problem for most of these artists is that many of the traditional ways of discovering new music (radio, CD stores) have been bought up and monopolized by the majors.
While the new media channels are available to everybody, getting "eyeballs" (OK, "ears") is still the hardest part.Put another way: most "small independent artists" would love it if enough people were interested in their music to upload a torrent to TPB - at least then, *somebody* is listening.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635188</id>
	<title>Why are we always in defense ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262520120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>why are we waiting for a lackey of the copyright industry to make a shitty comment or release a dubious 'research' in order to take any action ? Why arent eff and similar organizations taking the initiative and producing research, education and publicity in regard to new ways of the digital age ?</p><p>its just stupid. we are just waiting. some idiot lays an egg, and we all go after to cleanse the resulting shit. instead we should be moving forward.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>why are we waiting for a lackey of the copyright industry to make a shitty comment or release a dubious 'research ' in order to take any action ?
Why arent eff and similar organizations taking the initiative and producing research , education and publicity in regard to new ways of the digital age ? its just stupid .
we are just waiting .
some idiot lays an egg , and we all go after to cleanse the resulting shit .
instead we should be moving forward .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why are we waiting for a lackey of the copyright industry to make a shitty comment or release a dubious 'research' in order to take any action ?
Why arent eff and similar organizations taking the initiative and producing research, education and publicity in regard to new ways of the digital age ?its just stupid.
we are just waiting.
some idiot lays an egg, and we all go after to cleanse the resulting shit.
instead we should be moving forward.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635788</id>
	<title>Re:Bono is an idiot...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262524320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the drug is truly life saving, then poor countries with pharmaceutical industries like Brazil will just threaten to break the patent, and force the price down.  It's very not perfect, but national boundaries and interests do help immeasurably, despite the treaties.</p><p>There are millions of aids patients alive today because morality trumps foreign intellectual property in Brazil.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the drug is truly life saving , then poor countries with pharmaceutical industries like Brazil will just threaten to break the patent , and force the price down .
It 's very not perfect , but national boundaries and interests do help immeasurably , despite the treaties.There are millions of aids patients alive today because morality trumps foreign intellectual property in Brazil .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the drug is truly life saving, then poor countries with pharmaceutical industries like Brazil will just threaten to break the patent, and force the price down.
It's very not perfect, but national boundaries and interests do help immeasurably, despite the treaties.There are millions of aids patients alive today because morality trumps foreign intellectual property in Brazil.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635094</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635104</id>
	<title>Bono STFU!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262519580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bono should STFU. His arrogance is simply outstanding.</p><p>Someone should probably tell him that censoring the content doesn't actually make the crime stop. It merely hides it. As does charity with the real problems that affect the 3rd world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bono should STFU .
His arrogance is simply outstanding.Someone should probably tell him that censoring the content does n't actually make the crime stop .
It merely hides it .
As does charity with the real problems that affect the 3rd world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bono should STFU.
His arrogance is simply outstanding.Someone should probably tell him that censoring the content doesn't actually make the crime stop.
It merely hides it.
As does charity with the real problems that affect the 3rd world.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635170</id>
	<title>Artists are actually making more money...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262519940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://labs.timesonline.co.uk/blog/2009/11/12/do-music-artists-do-better-in-a-world-with-illegal-file-sharing/" title="timesonline.co.uk">Artists are actually doing much better</a> [timesonline.co.uk] since the dawn of the Internet because of increased ticket sales from live performances, and box office sales are better now than ever.  I highly doubt illegal downloading contributes very much to lost revenue since a very small percentage of the people who download illegal media would actually buy the product.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Artists are actually doing much better [ timesonline.co.uk ] since the dawn of the Internet because of increased ticket sales from live performances , and box office sales are better now than ever .
I highly doubt illegal downloading contributes very much to lost revenue since a very small percentage of the people who download illegal media would actually buy the product .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Artists are actually doing much better [timesonline.co.uk] since the dawn of the Internet because of increased ticket sales from live performances, and box office sales are better now than ever.
I highly doubt illegal downloading contributes very much to lost revenue since a very small percentage of the people who download illegal media would actually buy the product.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635198</id>
	<title>fundraiser!</title>
	<author>tommeke100</author>
	<datestamp>1262520180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>how about he does a fundraiser with Metallica to save the artists in need!</htmltext>
<tokenext>how about he does a fundraiser with Metallica to save the artists in need !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how about he does a fundraiser with Metallica to save the artists in need!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635128</id>
	<title>From a man worth</title>
	<author>rinoid</author>
	<datestamp>1262519700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>U2 the band is purportedly worth about 700 million dollars. <br> <br>

I have given them my money, seen them 4 times, bought most of the albums but come on Bono, how much more do you require?????</htmltext>
<tokenext>U2 the band is purportedly worth about 700 million dollars .
I have given them my money , seen them 4 times , bought most of the albums but come on Bono , how much more do you require ? ? ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>U2 the band is purportedly worth about 700 million dollars.
I have given them my money, seen them 4 times, bought most of the albums but come on Bono, how much more do you require????
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635718</id>
	<title>Re:We are better off without such charitable peopl</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262523780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What a fucking joke that this is +5 insightful. Yes, I do not agree with this <i>opinion</i> piece, but your wholesale dismissal of any good this person has done in their life and apparently wishing for them to die on that basis is absurd. I'm not naive enough to think that such morons don't exist on the internet, but lets try and maintain a higher standard here, please.

</p><p>Yeah, society would totally be better off without his work for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bono#Humanitarian\_work" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Amensty International, AIDS awareness, Band Aid, Live Aid, etc.</a> [wikipedia.org] I'm sure you've done more than him, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What a fucking joke that this is + 5 insightful .
Yes , I do not agree with this opinion piece , but your wholesale dismissal of any good this person has done in their life and apparently wishing for them to die on that basis is absurd .
I 'm not naive enough to think that such morons do n't exist on the internet , but lets try and maintain a higher standard here , please .
Yeah , society would totally be better off without his work for Amensty International , AIDS awareness , Band Aid , Live Aid , etc .
[ wikipedia.org ] I 'm sure you 've done more than him , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a fucking joke that this is +5 insightful.
Yes, I do not agree with this opinion piece, but your wholesale dismissal of any good this person has done in their life and apparently wishing for them to die on that basis is absurd.
I'm not naive enough to think that such morons don't exist on the internet, but lets try and maintain a higher standard here, please.
Yeah, society would totally be better off without his work for Amensty International, AIDS awareness, Band Aid, Live Aid, etc.
[wikipedia.org] I'm sure you've done more than him, right?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635636</id>
	<title>Re:From Wikipedia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262523060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do you assume that it's possible for us to win, or at least to avoid losing, by continuing the way we have been? Particularly since information of all sorts spreads trivially, and copyrights and patents ultimately rely on nothing more than the respect of those who increasingly are disadvantaged by them. I don't think that things will work out well unless we have a sea change, as the information economy appears to be a big sham.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do you assume that it 's possible for us to win , or at least to avoid losing , by continuing the way we have been ?
Particularly since information of all sorts spreads trivially , and copyrights and patents ultimately rely on nothing more than the respect of those who increasingly are disadvantaged by them .
I do n't think that things will work out well unless we have a sea change , as the information economy appears to be a big sham .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do you assume that it's possible for us to win, or at least to avoid losing, by continuing the way we have been?
Particularly since information of all sorts spreads trivially, and copyrights and patents ultimately rely on nothing more than the respect of those who increasingly are disadvantaged by them.
I don't think that things will work out well unless we have a sea change, as the information economy appears to be a big sham.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635264</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30639356</id>
	<title>Send Bono to Afghanistan</title>
	<author>Elrac</author>
	<datestamp>1262610480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think Bono should help the poor media industry by doing good will tours for the Taliban in Afghanistan. It's said <a href="http://www.javno.com/en-world/taliban-attack-musicians-at-afghan-wedding\_265419" title="javno.com">they love music and musicians</a> [javno.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Bono should help the poor media industry by doing good will tours for the Taliban in Afghanistan .
It 's said they love music and musicians [ javno.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Bono should help the poor media industry by doing good will tours for the Taliban in Afghanistan.
It's said they love music and musicians [javno.com].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636886</id>
	<title>Bono the greedy!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262533380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I managed quite nicely before Bono and will continue without him. If I decide to donate monies to a worthy cause, I will do so directly, unfiltered or skimmed by Bono. I do not condone or support surrogate Philanthropists like Bono or Bill Gates, they only use monies bilked from their customers. This is not charity but extortion with a tax benefit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I managed quite nicely before Bono and will continue without him .
If I decide to donate monies to a worthy cause , I will do so directly , unfiltered or skimmed by Bono .
I do not condone or support surrogate Philanthropists like Bono or Bill Gates , they only use monies bilked from their customers .
This is not charity but extortion with a tax benefit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I managed quite nicely before Bono and will continue without him.
If I decide to donate monies to a worthy cause, I will do so directly, unfiltered or skimmed by Bono.
I do not condone or support surrogate Philanthropists like Bono or Bill Gates, they only use monies bilked from their customers.
This is not charity but extortion with a tax benefit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636194</id>
	<title>South Park summed up Bono perfectly...</title>
	<author>purpleraison</author>
	<datestamp>1262527140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In episode 1109, titled "More Crap", Bono is discovered to be the worlds biggest turd. And to think this episode was done over two years ago - brilliantly insightful.</p><p>Reference: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More\_Crap" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More\_Crap</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In episode 1109 , titled " More Crap " , Bono is discovered to be the worlds biggest turd .
And to think this episode was done over two years ago - brilliantly insightful.Reference : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More \ _Crap [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In episode 1109, titled "More Crap", Bono is discovered to be the worlds biggest turd.
And to think this episode was done over two years ago - brilliantly insightful.Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More\_Crap [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30640470</id>
	<title>It doesn't help when you screw up basic facts.</title>
	<author>BenEnglishAtHome</author>
	<datestamp>1262619720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p><i>Child pornography, possession or production, is always illegal.</i></p></div> </blockquote><p>Good God, man, get your facts straight!  I like what you're saying but when you make such a basic error, it reflects poorly on your entire argument.
</p><p>Child porn is legal in most countries.  When you add together the countries in which it is illegal (U.S., France, Canada, etc.) with the countries that theoretically ban all porn (China, India, most Muslim-influenced states), then it's true that for the majority of the world's population, child porn is at least somewhat illegal.
</p><p>But in most countries, it's legal to possess.  In a lesser number, it's legal to sell.  There are a few places where it's technically legal to make (though other laws tend to get broken in the process).
</p><p>While I feel sure the number has gotten higher over the last 3-4 years, according to the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children, as of the date of their last full study of the issue in 2006, <a href="http://www.icmec.org/en\_X1/pdf/SummerNewsletter2006formatted.pdf" title="icmec.org">only 5 countries in the world completely and specifically outlaw child porn.</a> [icmec.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Child pornography , possession or production , is always illegal .
Good God , man , get your facts straight !
I like what you 're saying but when you make such a basic error , it reflects poorly on your entire argument .
Child porn is legal in most countries .
When you add together the countries in which it is illegal ( U.S. , France , Canada , etc .
) with the countries that theoretically ban all porn ( China , India , most Muslim-influenced states ) , then it 's true that for the majority of the world 's population , child porn is at least somewhat illegal .
But in most countries , it 's legal to possess .
In a lesser number , it 's legal to sell .
There are a few places where it 's technically legal to make ( though other laws tend to get broken in the process ) .
While I feel sure the number has gotten higher over the last 3-4 years , according to the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children , as of the date of their last full study of the issue in 2006 , only 5 countries in the world completely and specifically outlaw child porn .
[ icmec.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Child pornography, possession or production, is always illegal.
Good God, man, get your facts straight!
I like what you're saying but when you make such a basic error, it reflects poorly on your entire argument.
Child porn is legal in most countries.
When you add together the countries in which it is illegal (U.S., France, Canada, etc.
) with the countries that theoretically ban all porn (China, India, most Muslim-influenced states), then it's true that for the majority of the world's population, child porn is at least somewhat illegal.
But in most countries, it's legal to possess.
In a lesser number, it's legal to sell.
There are a few places where it's technically legal to make (though other laws tend to get broken in the process).
While I feel sure the number has gotten higher over the last 3-4 years, according to the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children, as of the date of their last full study of the issue in 2006, only 5 countries in the world completely and specifically outlaw child porn.
[icmec.org]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635438</id>
	<title>Re:From Wikipedia</title>
	<author>Iyonesco</author>
	<datestamp>1262521620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget his Evolution Parters investment vehicle (of which he is the Managing Director) which has assets of $1.9billion:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevation\_Partners" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevation\_Partners</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>If he really is so concerned about the plight of Africa why is he investing so much effort trying to increase his already substantial wealth?  Why is he not using this money to help the people of Africa who he claims to care so much about?  His hypocrisy is astounding and he seems to know no shame.  He is a master of appearing righteous while doing absolutely nothing of any good.  Quite simply he is pure evil.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget his Evolution Parters investment vehicle ( of which he is the Managing Director ) which has assets of $ 1.9billion : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevation \ _Partners [ wikipedia.org ] If he really is so concerned about the plight of Africa why is he investing so much effort trying to increase his already substantial wealth ?
Why is he not using this money to help the people of Africa who he claims to care so much about ?
His hypocrisy is astounding and he seems to know no shame .
He is a master of appearing righteous while doing absolutely nothing of any good .
Quite simply he is pure evil .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget his Evolution Parters investment vehicle (of which he is the Managing Director) which has assets of $1.9billion:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevation\_Partners [wikipedia.org]If he really is so concerned about the plight of Africa why is he investing so much effort trying to increase his already substantial wealth?
Why is he not using this money to help the people of Africa who he claims to care so much about?
His hypocrisy is astounding and he seems to know no shame.
He is a master of appearing righteous while doing absolutely nothing of any good.
Quite simply he is pure evil.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637442</id>
	<title>Poor old rich guy</title>
	<author>flyingfsck</author>
	<datestamp>1262539200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Waaah, sniff... These poor over paid entertainers...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Waaah , sniff... These poor over paid entertainers.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Waaah, sniff... These poor over paid entertainers...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636590</id>
	<title>Bono better watch out</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1262530560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or Slashdotters will boycott his music and no longer download it and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Oh wait.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or Slashdotters will boycott his music and no longer download it and ... Oh wait .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or Slashdotters will boycott his music and no longer download it and ... Oh wait.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636812</id>
	<title>U2 Bono?</title>
	<author>zotz</author>
	<datestamp>1262532780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>with compliments to the bard...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>with compliments to the bard.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with compliments to the bard...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30638498</id>
	<title>Avatar brakes $1,000,000,000 at the box office</title>
	<author>TheLuggs</author>
	<datestamp>1262597280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hmmm just read an article saying that avatar broke the $1,000,000,000 mark at the boxoffice...
Only if we had known how bad things were in the movie industry</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm just read an article saying that avatar broke the $ 1,000,000,000 mark at the boxoffice.. . Only if we had known how bad things were in the movie industry</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm just read an article saying that avatar broke the $1,000,000,000 mark at the boxoffice...
Only if we had known how bad things were in the movie industry</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637696</id>
	<title>They reap what they sow</title>
	<author>P0ltergeist333</author>
	<datestamp>1262542500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From ripping off countless artists, to collusion on CD prices, to attempting to shove mass-market crap down the public's throat; the music industry deserves whatever it gets. I consider this a much needed correction. Maybe someday they'll start signing real musicians and create a fair usage distribution model acceptable to consumers and artists alike (without skimming the vast majority of the proceeds). To me, this would either be lossless compression digital files at 50-99 cents per song with no DRM (with artists getting at least half), or a lifelong guaranteed license with DRM that allows fair usage (for approximately the same price).</p><p>On a slightly off-topic note, has anyone else watched "It might get loud"? "The Edge" is a complete joke next to Jack and Jimmy. Not that I ever thought much of U2 to begin with, but it was pathetic. I cant believe he let them publish it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From ripping off countless artists , to collusion on CD prices , to attempting to shove mass-market crap down the public 's throat ; the music industry deserves whatever it gets .
I consider this a much needed correction .
Maybe someday they 'll start signing real musicians and create a fair usage distribution model acceptable to consumers and artists alike ( without skimming the vast majority of the proceeds ) .
To me , this would either be lossless compression digital files at 50-99 cents per song with no DRM ( with artists getting at least half ) , or a lifelong guaranteed license with DRM that allows fair usage ( for approximately the same price ) .On a slightly off-topic note , has anyone else watched " It might get loud " ?
" The Edge " is a complete joke next to Jack and Jimmy .
Not that I ever thought much of U2 to begin with , but it was pathetic .
I cant believe he let them publish it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From ripping off countless artists, to collusion on CD prices, to attempting to shove mass-market crap down the public's throat; the music industry deserves whatever it gets.
I consider this a much needed correction.
Maybe someday they'll start signing real musicians and create a fair usage distribution model acceptable to consumers and artists alike (without skimming the vast majority of the proceeds).
To me, this would either be lossless compression digital files at 50-99 cents per song with no DRM (with artists getting at least half), or a lifelong guaranteed license with DRM that allows fair usage (for approximately the same price).On a slightly off-topic note, has anyone else watched "It might get loud"?
"The Edge" is a complete joke next to Jack and Jimmy.
Not that I ever thought much of U2 to begin with, but it was pathetic.
I cant believe he let them publish it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635334</id>
	<title>Bono, the '80s called...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262520900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They want you back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They want you back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They want you back.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636452</id>
	<title>Re:He's a singer....</title>
	<author>Angst Badger</author>
	<datestamp>1262529360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Imagine that a football player gave his view on copyright and innovation. You'd laugh. But a guy sings a song on the radio, and all the sudden his utterances appear in the NY Times?</p></div><p>I rather doubt the cause of his celebrity is the issue here, it's just his celebrity, period. If a well-known football player wrote a reasonably articulate editorial and flogged it around, I'm sure he could find a major newspaper to publish it, especially if the topic of that editorial was protecting the content industry, of which newspapers are part. We just hear from singers more often because, let's be honest, they're more likely to be able to form complete sentences than football players.</p><p>That said, the validity of an argument is independent of its source. <i>If</i> Bono had advanced a cogent argument and hadn't gotten his facts wrong, he'd be worth listening to. Unfortunately, he didn't, so he isn't.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine that a football player gave his view on copyright and innovation .
You 'd laugh .
But a guy sings a song on the radio , and all the sudden his utterances appear in the NY Times ? I rather doubt the cause of his celebrity is the issue here , it 's just his celebrity , period .
If a well-known football player wrote a reasonably articulate editorial and flogged it around , I 'm sure he could find a major newspaper to publish it , especially if the topic of that editorial was protecting the content industry , of which newspapers are part .
We just hear from singers more often because , let 's be honest , they 're more likely to be able to form complete sentences than football players.That said , the validity of an argument is independent of its source .
If Bono had advanced a cogent argument and had n't gotten his facts wrong , he 'd be worth listening to .
Unfortunately , he did n't , so he is n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine that a football player gave his view on copyright and innovation.
You'd laugh.
But a guy sings a song on the radio, and all the sudden his utterances appear in the NY Times?I rather doubt the cause of his celebrity is the issue here, it's just his celebrity, period.
If a well-known football player wrote a reasonably articulate editorial and flogged it around, I'm sure he could find a major newspaper to publish it, especially if the topic of that editorial was protecting the content industry, of which newspapers are part.
We just hear from singers more often because, let's be honest, they're more likely to be able to form complete sentences than football players.That said, the validity of an argument is independent of its source.
If Bono had advanced a cogent argument and hadn't gotten his facts wrong, he'd be worth listening to.
Unfortunately, he didn't, so he isn't.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635064</id>
	<title>Sorry</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262519400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From an Irish Slashdotter, I think it's only fair to say. I apologise most unreservedly to the world for not flushing this floater when we had the chance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From an Irish Slashdotter , I think it 's only fair to say .
I apologise most unreservedly to the world for not flushing this floater when we had the chance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From an Irish Slashdotter, I think it's only fair to say.
I apologise most unreservedly to the world for not flushing this floater when we had the chance.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635074</id>
	<title>This came after...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262519460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>This came after Bono spent hours searching for his music on torrent sites.  Apparently he still hasn't found what he's looking for.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This came after Bono spent hours searching for his music on torrent sites .
Apparently he still has n't found what he 's looking for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This came after Bono spent hours searching for his music on torrent sites.
Apparently he still hasn't found what he's looking for.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635448</id>
	<title>when it comes to digital piracy</title>
	<author>Presto Vivace</author>
	<datestamp>1262521680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>people seem to be more interested in free beer rather than free speech.</htmltext>
<tokenext>people seem to be more interested in free beer rather than free speech .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>people seem to be more interested in free beer rather than free speech.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637850</id>
	<title>Re:Perhaps..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262544720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's the way music always was. Look at Bill Evans, he got paid something like 70 bucks standard union rate for the recording session that produced "Kind of Blue".</p><p>Most jazz cats played for hours every night, which is part of the reason their skills are so far beyond almost everyone today.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's the way music always was .
Look at Bill Evans , he got paid something like 70 bucks standard union rate for the recording session that produced " Kind of Blue " .Most jazz cats played for hours every night , which is part of the reason their skills are so far beyond almost everyone today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's the way music always was.
Look at Bill Evans, he got paid something like 70 bucks standard union rate for the recording session that produced "Kind of Blue".Most jazz cats played for hours every night, which is part of the reason their skills are so far beyond almost everyone today.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635266</id>
	<title>If this is what it takes to save music...</title>
	<author>svirre</author>
	<datestamp>1262520600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...then I guess we should let music die. Music and other entertainment is not important enough by far to trade away privacy and freedom. I don't care for piracy, but I recognize that only by having complete control of what people communicate and hence their freedom of expression would it be possible to quell piracy. I hope most thinking humans would agree that this is too high a price to preserve the profitability of music.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...then I guess we should let music die .
Music and other entertainment is not important enough by far to trade away privacy and freedom .
I do n't care for piracy , but I recognize that only by having complete control of what people communicate and hence their freedom of expression would it be possible to quell piracy .
I hope most thinking humans would agree that this is too high a price to preserve the profitability of music .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...then I guess we should let music die.
Music and other entertainment is not important enough by far to trade away privacy and freedom.
I don't care for piracy, but I recognize that only by having complete control of what people communicate and hence their freedom of expression would it be possible to quell piracy.
I hope most thinking humans would agree that this is too high a price to preserve the profitability of music.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30639090</id>
	<title>blown of of proportion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262606640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>before internet downloads people use to copy off the radio, when will they stop acting like piracy is so new with the internet, get over it</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>before internet downloads people use to copy off the radio , when will they stop acting like piracy is so new with the internet , get over it</tokentext>
<sentencetext>before internet downloads people use to copy off the radio, when will they stop acting like piracy is so new with the internet, get over it</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636360</id>
	<title>washed up rock star</title>
	<author>YouDoNotWantToKnow</author>
	<datestamp>1262528460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>with a god complex</htmltext>
<tokenext>with a god complex</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with a god complex</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635608</id>
	<title>Re:He's a singer....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262522880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, singers have a direct stake in the system.  They benefit from copyrights, and they are the innovators meant to be protected by it.  Just because you haven't studied policy for years doesn't mean you don't have valid perspectives.  Artists DO have a unique view to share!  (on this issue, anyway; I don't mean to say that Bono really has anything important to contribute on the sexy cars issue)</p><p>Of course the greater reason this is here is that it will move papers/mad clicks.  If Tiger Woods wanted to give his view on copyright and innovation right now, you betcha the NYT would oblige him with an op-ed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , singers have a direct stake in the system .
They benefit from copyrights , and they are the innovators meant to be protected by it .
Just because you have n't studied policy for years does n't mean you do n't have valid perspectives .
Artists DO have a unique view to share !
( on this issue , anyway ; I do n't mean to say that Bono really has anything important to contribute on the sexy cars issue ) Of course the greater reason this is here is that it will move papers/mad clicks .
If Tiger Woods wanted to give his view on copyright and innovation right now , you betcha the NYT would oblige him with an op-ed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, singers have a direct stake in the system.
They benefit from copyrights, and they are the innovators meant to be protected by it.
Just because you haven't studied policy for years doesn't mean you don't have valid perspectives.
Artists DO have a unique view to share!
(on this issue, anyway; I don't mean to say that Bono really has anything important to contribute on the sexy cars issue)Of course the greater reason this is here is that it will move papers/mad clicks.
If Tiger Woods wanted to give his view on copyright and innovation right now, you betcha the NYT would oblige him with an op-ed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30637622</id>
	<title>Re:Bono is an idiot...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262541420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really? You don't think it's the lack of education, lack of infrastructure, over-reliance on subsistence farming, and the general lack of business knowledge? Try to find a CEO in El Salvador with experience in streamlining a production pipeline, or find a CFO in Burundi who knows how to smooth out a cash flow.  Running a developed economy is tricky business, and it takes a while to develop enough expertise, an experienced workforce, and a good infrastructure.</p><p>Not being able to get pirated songs isn't what's holding underdeveloped nations back.</p><p>Let me guess, you are a pipeline streamliner / flow smoother, thank God we have you!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ?
You do n't think it 's the lack of education , lack of infrastructure , over-reliance on subsistence farming , and the general lack of business knowledge ?
Try to find a CEO in El Salvador with experience in streamlining a production pipeline , or find a CFO in Burundi who knows how to smooth out a cash flow .
Running a developed economy is tricky business , and it takes a while to develop enough expertise , an experienced workforce , and a good infrastructure.Not being able to get pirated songs is n't what 's holding underdeveloped nations back.Let me guess , you are a pipeline streamliner / flow smoother , thank God we have you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really?
You don't think it's the lack of education, lack of infrastructure, over-reliance on subsistence farming, and the general lack of business knowledge?
Try to find a CEO in El Salvador with experience in streamlining a production pipeline, or find a CFO in Burundi who knows how to smooth out a cash flow.
Running a developed economy is tricky business, and it takes a while to develop enough expertise, an experienced workforce, and a good infrastructure.Not being able to get pirated songs isn't what's holding underdeveloped nations back.Let me guess, you are a pipeline streamliner / flow smoother, thank God we have you!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30635084</id>
	<title>From Wikipedia</title>
	<author>Vinegar Joe</author>
	<datestamp>1262519520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Bono lives in Killiney in south County Dublin, Ireland, with his family and shares a villa in &#200;ze in the Alpes-Maritimes in the south of France with The Edge, as well as an apartment at The San Remo in Manhattan and a small house in the quiet village of Middleton Cheney, England."</p><p>Yep. He's really hurting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Bono lives in Killiney in south County Dublin , Ireland , with his family and shares a villa in   ze in the Alpes-Maritimes in the south of France with The Edge , as well as an apartment at The San Remo in Manhattan and a small house in the quiet village of Middleton Cheney , England. " Yep .
He 's really hurting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Bono lives in Killiney in south County Dublin, Ireland, with his family and shares a villa in Èze in the Alpes-Maritimes in the south of France with The Edge, as well as an apartment at The San Remo in Manhattan and a small house in the quiet village of Middleton Cheney, England."Yep.
He's really hurting.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30636168</id>
	<title>Re:Note to Bono:</title>
	<author>the\_fat\_kid</author>
	<datestamp>1262526840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that you might be mistaken about him needing to remove his head from his ass to get some dick in his mouth.<br>I'll bet that he can find plenty in there.</p><p>not anonymous, not a coward, and not a fan of Bono.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that you might be mistaken about him needing to remove his head from his ass to get some dick in his mouth.I 'll bet that he can find plenty in there.not anonymous , not a coward , and not a fan of Bono .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that you might be mistaken about him needing to remove his head from his ass to get some dick in his mouth.I'll bet that he can find plenty in there.not anonymous, not a coward, and not a fan of Bono.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30639394</id>
	<title>Re:He's a singer....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262610900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like Dave Chappelle's take on it:</p><p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7b5hJ0G\_9c</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like Dave Chappelle 's take on it : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = H7b5hJ0G \ _9c</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like Dave Chappelle's take on it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7b5hJ0G\_9c</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_03_2241248.30676542</id>
	<title>Re:Is there anyone left on this planet ...</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1262780280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes. Bono.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
Bono. : D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
Bono. :D</sentencetext>
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