<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_02_2029250</id>
	<title>Canada's Airlines Face a Privacy Dilemma</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1262421780000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Interoperable writes <i>"Canada's airlines are caught between a rock and a hard place in the face of new US regulations that <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/01/01/airlines-passenger-privacy001.html">require them to collect and hand over personal information</a> about passengers. Handing over information regarding a passenger's name, gender and birth-date may violate Canadian privacy laws but merely flying over American airspace is conditional on doing exactly that. It seems that the long arms of the TSA are eager to grope at Canadians taking a shortcut to Toronto; no doubt to prevent any terrorist attacks on Lake Huron."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interoperable writes " Canada 's airlines are caught between a rock and a hard place in the face of new US regulations that require them to collect and hand over personal information about passengers .
Handing over information regarding a passenger 's name , gender and birth-date may violate Canadian privacy laws but merely flying over American airspace is conditional on doing exactly that .
It seems that the long arms of the TSA are eager to grope at Canadians taking a shortcut to Toronto ; no doubt to prevent any terrorist attacks on Lake Huron .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interoperable writes "Canada's airlines are caught between a rock and a hard place in the face of new US regulations that require them to collect and hand over personal information about passengers.
Handing over information regarding a passenger's name, gender and birth-date may violate Canadian privacy laws but merely flying over American airspace is conditional on doing exactly that.
It seems that the long arms of the TSA are eager to grope at Canadians taking a shortcut to Toronto; no doubt to prevent any terrorist attacks on Lake Huron.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30629616</id>
	<title>Easy!</title>
	<author>zill</author>
	<datestamp>1262457960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The solution is trivial:<br>
1. Stealth jumbo jets<br>
2. Parachutes for every passenger<br> <br>

This also has the benefits of avoiding those outragous airport surcharges. <br> <br>

And just <b>think</b> about how much extra money the airlines can make off the parachutes:<br>
First class parachutes: 99.9999\% survival rate (a trained professional jumps with you)<br>
Business class parachutes: 99\% survival rate<br>
Economy class parachutes: please see fine print on bottom of page 28</htmltext>
<tokenext>The solution is trivial : 1 .
Stealth jumbo jets 2 .
Parachutes for every passenger This also has the benefits of avoiding those outragous airport surcharges .
And just think about how much extra money the airlines can make off the parachutes : First class parachutes : 99.9999 \ % survival rate ( a trained professional jumps with you ) Business class parachutes : 99 \ % survival rate Economy class parachutes : please see fine print on bottom of page 28</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The solution is trivial:
1.
Stealth jumbo jets
2.
Parachutes for every passenger 

This also has the benefits of avoiding those outragous airport surcharges.
And just think about how much extra money the airlines can make off the parachutes:
First class parachutes: 99.9999\% survival rate (a trained professional jumps with you)
Business class parachutes: 99\% survival rate
Economy class parachutes: please see fine print on bottom of page 28</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30632006</id>
	<title>Stupidity</title>
	<author>anonieuweling</author>
	<datestamp>1262538000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>All of this mandatory security theatre(*) is just because of the stupid international politics of the USA (no longer the home of the free) in the first place. This means that we ALL get to suffer from their stupid pollitical choices (they learned nothing from middle and south american experiments, Vietnam?).<br>
(*) Yes, who you are does not matter for a safe plane flight. It all (!) depends on what stuff the security measures don't detect and what thus is taken onboard. <br>
Yes, Osama, if he were alive, could easily be admitted to a plane. Just without bombs, weapons, etc.<br>
So this name-list weirdness, this privacy invasion, leads to absolutely nothing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>All of this mandatory security theatre ( * ) is just because of the stupid international politics of the USA ( no longer the home of the free ) in the first place .
This means that we ALL get to suffer from their stupid pollitical choices ( they learned nothing from middle and south american experiments , Vietnam ? ) .
( * ) Yes , who you are does not matter for a safe plane flight .
It all ( !
) depends on what stuff the security measures do n't detect and what thus is taken onboard .
Yes , Osama , if he were alive , could easily be admitted to a plane .
Just without bombs , weapons , etc .
So this name-list weirdness , this privacy invasion , leads to absolutely nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All of this mandatory security theatre(*) is just because of the stupid international politics of the USA (no longer the home of the free) in the first place.
This means that we ALL get to suffer from their stupid pollitical choices (they learned nothing from middle and south american experiments, Vietnam?).
(*) Yes, who you are does not matter for a safe plane flight.
It all (!
) depends on what stuff the security measures don't detect and what thus is taken onboard.
Yes, Osama, if he were alive, could easily be admitted to a plane.
Just without bombs, weapons, etc.
So this name-list weirdness, this privacy invasion, leads to absolutely nothing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626224</id>
	<title>STFU</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262427840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>niggers and beaners are disgusting, filthy vermin.</p><p>The ARYAN race will overcome the subhumans and rebuild EDEN.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>niggers and beaners are disgusting , filthy vermin.The ARYAN race will overcome the subhumans and rebuild EDEN .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>niggers and beaners are disgusting, filthy vermin.The ARYAN race will overcome the subhumans and rebuild EDEN.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626172</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625874</id>
	<title>Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262425620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So I say ever other country starts finger-printing and frisking Americans just as a matter of policy.</p><p>See how long before the state departments starts whining about that.</p><p>This is precisely why I won't fly into a US airport.  Fuck 'em, you country no longer interests me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So I say ever other country starts finger-printing and frisking Americans just as a matter of policy.See how long before the state departments starts whining about that.This is precisely why I wo n't fly into a US airport .
Fuck 'em , you country no longer interests me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I say ever other country starts finger-printing and frisking Americans just as a matter of policy.See how long before the state departments starts whining about that.This is precisely why I won't fly into a US airport.
Fuck 'em, you country no longer interests me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626000</id>
	<title>Even transiting in the US is an ordeal.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262426340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's just not worth the hassle. There are places in America I'd still quite like to visit, but I'm not going to bother. Being made to endure the insanity of US airport "security" processes is not acceptable to me, and I'm not alone: Aside from all the other people who have decided a US vacation isn't worth the effort, go ask American tourism operators how they feel about it all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's just not worth the hassle .
There are places in America I 'd still quite like to visit , but I 'm not going to bother .
Being made to endure the insanity of US airport " security " processes is not acceptable to me , and I 'm not alone : Aside from all the other people who have decided a US vacation is n't worth the effort , go ask American tourism operators how they feel about it all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's just not worth the hassle.
There are places in America I'd still quite like to visit, but I'm not going to bother.
Being made to endure the insanity of US airport "security" processes is not acceptable to me, and I'm not alone: Aside from all the other people who have decided a US vacation isn't worth the effort, go ask American tourism operators how they feel about it all.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626178</id>
	<title>I don't get it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262427540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The US is making this conditional for permission for overflight.  How \_precisely\_ is this something that they shouldn't be allowed to do?  The airlines are perfectly allowed to change their flight paths and not overfly the US.  It'll add a lot of time to a flight to the Caribbean or Mexico, but hey, that's what you have to do for overflight.</p><p>BTW: I'm Canadian.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The US is making this conditional for permission for overflight .
How \ _precisely \ _ is this something that they should n't be allowed to do ?
The airlines are perfectly allowed to change their flight paths and not overfly the US .
It 'll add a lot of time to a flight to the Caribbean or Mexico , but hey , that 's what you have to do for overflight.BTW : I 'm Canadian .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The US is making this conditional for permission for overflight.
How \_precisely\_ is this something that they shouldn't be allowed to do?
The airlines are perfectly allowed to change their flight paths and not overfly the US.
It'll add a lot of time to a flight to the Caribbean or Mexico, but hey, that's what you have to do for overflight.BTW: I'm Canadian.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30629460</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262456100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wall of Text crits you for 50 damage!</p><p>You have been killed by Wall of Text.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wall of Text crits you for 50 damage ! You have been killed by Wall of Text .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wall of Text crits you for 50 damage!You have been killed by Wall of Text.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626454</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626250</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Tellarin</author>
	<datestamp>1262428020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But Brazil only fingerprints and photographs people from the US. And that is reciprocity for having its citizens fingerprinted and photographed in the US.</p><p>Other countries (Peru, Panama, Bolivia,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...) charge more fees if you're from the US to cover for immigration and customs procedures.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But Brazil only fingerprints and photographs people from the US .
And that is reciprocity for having its citizens fingerprinted and photographed in the US.Other countries ( Peru , Panama , Bolivia , ... ) charge more fees if you 're from the US to cover for immigration and customs procedures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But Brazil only fingerprints and photographs people from the US.
And that is reciprocity for having its citizens fingerprinted and photographed in the US.Other countries (Peru, Panama, Bolivia, ...) charge more fees if you're from the US to cover for immigration and customs procedures.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625970</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626630</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>JWSmythe</author>
	<datestamp>1262430240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I don't think the article mentioned it, but the posted story did.  Flights to/from YYZ (Toronto) may cross American borders on approach or departure.  They do run flights down to Mexico and Cuba, which I'm fairly sure transit over American airspace.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I know the Canada  Cuba flights already have the US Government's interest though.  If there's an American on board without permissions (like, most of us won't have), we'll get nailed because of the ongoing embargo.   While they did change some limits on that, the average American like myself, can't  go to Cuba still.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>    I do n't think the article mentioned it , but the posted story did .
Flights to/from YYZ ( Toronto ) may cross American borders on approach or departure .
They do run flights down to Mexico and Cuba , which I 'm fairly sure transit over American airspace .
    I know the Canada Cuba flights already have the US Government 's interest though .
If there 's an American on board without permissions ( like , most of us wo n't have ) , we 'll get nailed because of the ongoing embargo .
While they did change some limits on that , the average American like myself , ca n't go to Cuba still .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
    I don't think the article mentioned it, but the posted story did.
Flights to/from YYZ (Toronto) may cross American borders on approach or departure.
They do run flights down to Mexico and Cuba, which I'm fairly sure transit over American airspace.
    I know the Canada  Cuba flights already have the US Government's interest though.
If there's an American on board without permissions (like, most of us won't have), we'll get nailed because of the ongoing embargo.
While they did change some limits on that, the average American like myself, can't  go to Cuba still.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626054</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626154</id>
	<title>Re:Turnabout may be a fair remedy to bad policy...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262427420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm usually 100\% with privacy advocates, but I have to say that I don't think being able to fly over a foreign country without having to give them your name and birth date is an essential liberty.  Or even a reasonable expectation.  Did I miss something?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm usually 100 \ % with privacy advocates , but I have to say that I do n't think being able to fly over a foreign country without having to give them your name and birth date is an essential liberty .
Or even a reasonable expectation .
Did I miss something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm usually 100\% with privacy advocates, but I have to say that I don't think being able to fly over a foreign country without having to give them your name and birth date is an essential liberty.
Or even a reasonable expectation.
Did I miss something?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626036</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626368</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262428680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>...the top two countries of mine I've wanted to go visit in my lifetime is the <b>USA</b> (again), and <b>Japan</b>...<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...other countries...<b>equally...photogenic</b>...</p></div></blockquote><p>

<i>Equally</i>...photogenic? <br> <br>

American women are rude, obese half-plastic pigs. Protip: the silicon side is the front. <br> <br>

Japanese women look like androgynous malformed babies with down syndrome.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...the top two countries of mine I 've wanted to go visit in my lifetime is the USA ( again ) , and Japan... ...other countries...equally...photogenic.. . Equally...photogenic ? American women are rude , obese half-plastic pigs .
Protip : the silicon side is the front .
Japanese women look like androgynous malformed babies with down syndrome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...the top two countries of mine I've wanted to go visit in my lifetime is the USA (again), and Japan... ...other countries...equally...photogenic...

Equally...photogenic?  

American women are rude, obese half-plastic pigs.
Protip: the silicon side is the front.
Japanese women look like androgynous malformed babies with down syndrome.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626168</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626168</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262427480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>By strange coincidence, the top two countries of mine I've wanted to go visit in my lifetime is the USA (again), and Japan. However, they treat tourists like criminals, and surprise, I'm not visiting those countries. There are dozens and dozens of other countries around the world that value my tourist money and are equally stunning, polite, and photogenic. No problem to me, just wait for the American tourist board to squeal some more soon about the amount of people willing to go to see the US is going down even more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By strange coincidence , the top two countries of mine I 've wanted to go visit in my lifetime is the USA ( again ) , and Japan .
However , they treat tourists like criminals , and surprise , I 'm not visiting those countries .
There are dozens and dozens of other countries around the world that value my tourist money and are equally stunning , polite , and photogenic .
No problem to me , just wait for the American tourist board to squeal some more soon about the amount of people willing to go to see the US is going down even more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By strange coincidence, the top two countries of mine I've wanted to go visit in my lifetime is the USA (again), and Japan.
However, they treat tourists like criminals, and surprise, I'm not visiting those countries.
There are dozens and dozens of other countries around the world that value my tourist money and are equally stunning, polite, and photogenic.
No problem to me, just wait for the American tourist board to squeal some more soon about the amount of people willing to go to see the US is going down even more.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625970</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30628300</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>orlanz</author>
	<datestamp>1262442540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I second this.  And you do see it in some nations.  When I traveled to India the interaction with people was a lot different from my last visit (2000).</p><p>Before, they were very curious about us, thought we were very rich, land of opportunity, and so on.  The younger crowd was of the opinion, that they would like to \_live\_ in the US or atleast work for a US company.  The older crowd felt like they were constantly defending themselves and their ways.</p><p>Today, they see us as just normal regular people with some really odd belief systems (not talking about religion).  And they all have a certain level of distrust in us.  The younger crowd would much rather travel to Singapore, UK, Thailand, Japan, or Australia (a place where they seem to be having heavy cultural clashes) than the US.  Also, many already have traveled to these easily accessible places.  The US is now seen as a high profit place to do a quick business deal, or short term contract.  Thou even that has changed recently with the H1-Bs becoming harder to get.  As for the older crowd, they aren't defensive like before, but rather offensive in questioning the US's policies and actions.  Although I think they are wrong in their policy beliefs, it has been a viewpoint shift that is very hard to miss.</p><p>Even on the education front, it used to be "Wow, living in the US, American educated..." now has become "So, my \_\_\_\_\_ has gone to IIT" (or UK, or Australia of all places).  In the last 9 years, our image has taken some serious beating.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I second this .
And you do see it in some nations .
When I traveled to India the interaction with people was a lot different from my last visit ( 2000 ) .Before , they were very curious about us , thought we were very rich , land of opportunity , and so on .
The younger crowd was of the opinion , that they would like to \ _live \ _ in the US or atleast work for a US company .
The older crowd felt like they were constantly defending themselves and their ways.Today , they see us as just normal regular people with some really odd belief systems ( not talking about religion ) .
And they all have a certain level of distrust in us .
The younger crowd would much rather travel to Singapore , UK , Thailand , Japan , or Australia ( a place where they seem to be having heavy cultural clashes ) than the US .
Also , many already have traveled to these easily accessible places .
The US is now seen as a high profit place to do a quick business deal , or short term contract .
Thou even that has changed recently with the H1-Bs becoming harder to get .
As for the older crowd , they are n't defensive like before , but rather offensive in questioning the US 's policies and actions .
Although I think they are wrong in their policy beliefs , it has been a viewpoint shift that is very hard to miss.Even on the education front , it used to be " Wow , living in the US , American educated... " now has become " So , my \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ has gone to IIT " ( or UK , or Australia of all places ) .
In the last 9 years , our image has taken some serious beating .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I second this.
And you do see it in some nations.
When I traveled to India the interaction with people was a lot different from my last visit (2000).Before, they were very curious about us, thought we were very rich, land of opportunity, and so on.
The younger crowd was of the opinion, that they would like to \_live\_ in the US or atleast work for a US company.
The older crowd felt like they were constantly defending themselves and their ways.Today, they see us as just normal regular people with some really odd belief systems (not talking about religion).
And they all have a certain level of distrust in us.
The younger crowd would much rather travel to Singapore, UK, Thailand, Japan, or Australia (a place where they seem to be having heavy cultural clashes) than the US.
Also, many already have traveled to these easily accessible places.
The US is now seen as a high profit place to do a quick business deal, or short term contract.
Thou even that has changed recently with the H1-Bs becoming harder to get.
As for the older crowd, they aren't defensive like before, but rather offensive in questioning the US's policies and actions.
Although I think they are wrong in their policy beliefs, it has been a viewpoint shift that is very hard to miss.Even on the education front, it used to be "Wow, living in the US, American educated..." now has become "So, my \_\_\_\_\_ has gone to IIT" (or UK, or Australia of all places).
In the last 9 years, our image has taken some serious beating.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626240</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30631102</id>
	<title>Re:Fork it over, and it changes... nothing.</title>
	<author>mpe</author>
	<datestamp>1262526240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Last Name: "Alphabetic, no numeric or special characters, except dash ( - ) and single quote ( ' ). Do not include suffixes (e.g., jr.). Truncate names longer than 35 characters to 35 characters".</i> <br> <br>No spaces? These are very common in Spanish names...</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Last Name : " Alphabetic , no numeric or special characters , except dash ( - ) and single quote ( ' ) .
Do not include suffixes ( e.g. , jr. ) .
Truncate names longer than 35 characters to 35 characters " .
No spaces ?
These are very common in Spanish names.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last Name: "Alphabetic, no numeric or special characters, except dash ( - ) and single quote ( ' ).
Do not include suffixes (e.g., jr.).
Truncate names longer than 35 characters to 35 characters".
No spaces?
These are very common in Spanish names...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626634</id>
	<title>Re:Huron?</title>
	<author>JustOK</author>
	<datestamp>1262430300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thought it was BESIDE Lake Ontario.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thought it was BESIDE Lake Ontario .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thought it was BESIDE Lake Ontario.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626066</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625916</id>
	<title>EU had same dilemma...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262425860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But France must have been in charge at the time as we surrendered without a fight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But France must have been in charge at the time as we surrendered without a fight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But France must have been in charge at the time as we surrendered without a fight.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30628744</id>
	<title>Write the minister</title>
	<author>XB-70</author>
	<datestamp>1262447820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Peter Van Loan is the minister responsible. Please let him know that you are really concerned about yet another loss of true freedom imposed on Canadians by a foreign power. <a href="http://www.petervanloan.com/home.asp" title="petervanloan.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.petervanloan.com/home.asp</a> [petervanloan.com]
<p>Don't get me wrong, I love my American cousins. It's the fact that their government is throwing its weight around like an elephant in a glasswares store.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Peter Van Loan is the minister responsible .
Please let him know that you are really concerned about yet another loss of true freedom imposed on Canadians by a foreign power .
http : //www.petervanloan.com/home.asp [ petervanloan.com ] Do n't get me wrong , I love my American cousins .
It 's the fact that their government is throwing its weight around like an elephant in a glasswares store .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Peter Van Loan is the minister responsible.
Please let him know that you are really concerned about yet another loss of true freedom imposed on Canadians by a foreign power.
http://www.petervanloan.com/home.asp [petervanloan.com]
Don't get me wrong, I love my American cousins.
It's the fact that their government is throwing its weight around like an elephant in a glasswares store.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30643288</id>
	<title>Re:Lost Tourism</title>
	<author>LeadSongDog</author>
	<datestamp>1262630880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Even domestic UK flights are barely tolerable and it is getting worse.</p></div><p>Of course, anyone daft enough to use an airplane on what should be a bicycle trip deserves to be a tad inconvenienced.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even domestic UK flights are barely tolerable and it is getting worse.Of course , anyone daft enough to use an airplane on what should be a bicycle trip deserves to be a tad inconvenienced .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even domestic UK flights are barely tolerable and it is getting worse.Of course, anyone daft enough to use an airplane on what should be a bicycle trip deserves to be a tad inconvenienced.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30628922</id>
	<title>Re:Just say NO</title>
	<author>bziman</author>
	<datestamp>1262449560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Um, I'm American, and I agree with you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Um , I 'm American , and I agree with you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um, I'm American, and I agree with you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30631724</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262534760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The U.S. might be pretty bad when the best excuse you can offer for 'security theatre' is that some other countries are worse.  The U.S. is supposed to be a world leader of freedom and democracy, not a place where you can justify anything by saying, "Well, yeah, but country \_fill\_in\_blank\_here\_ is far worse."  As long as there are basket-case countries in the world like Iran, Libya, North Korea, etc., you can sink pretty darn low and still be "ahead" of somebody on almost any issue you care to choose.</p><p>The film industry is a special quirk in Canada because we live next door to a country with 10x our population and economy, and with a particularly *massive* entertainment industry.  Ostensibly the regulations on U.S. influence in the Canadian film industry are in order to protect "Canadian culture".  The premise is that if the industry were completely open, all the Canadian companies would close up shop and move to the U.S. (because it's a much bigger market), and all the U.S. companies wouldn't bother producing anything here (because we're merely an extra 10\% market).  Even so, we are constantly inundated by U.S. culture on TV, in film, and just about any other media you can name.  If it's any consolation, I think the laws regarding Canadian content are stupid and you should be able to work here on the same terms as any other visitor working here.  On a personal note: the Canada-U.S. relationship is pretty special, and if it is in your economic interest it is far easier for you to become a joint citizen of Canada and get around our silly laws that way than for anyone else in the world.  It might be worth looking into.</p><p>Even granting the validity of your point (that many of the criticisms of the U.S. are cherry picking and it isn't that bad overall), and granting that I agree with your overall sentiment (the U.S. is *not* that bad a place, and I really love the people), it is no excuse for holding back on the things for which the U.S. truly deserves criticism.  And one of those things is the INSANE overreaction with regards to security, and the idiotic security theatre that the system will put people through -- both their own citizens and foreigners -- simply in order to travel.  And when fulfilling that stupid theatre starts grinding away at the privacy laws in my *own* country, then yeah I'm going to speak up and protest about it.  I know you guys don't have the same privacy laws we do in Canada, but I thought that was one of the better things here, and I was hoping that you'd eventually implement something similar, because the people in the U.S. certainly have similar concerns about the issue of government gaining too much access to personal information.  Now I'm thinking that hope is pointless, because you'll throw it all away for the sake of "security".  Heck, your government just outsources the whole business to third parties, and <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/01/02/0247236/Using-Fourth-Party-Data-Brokers-To-Bypass-the-Fourth-Amendment?art\_pos=1" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">then fourth parties</a> [slashdot.org] (!) to use the loopholes in what privacy legislation you do have, even though your constitution ostensibly protects the information.</p><p>Look, this is a *friend* trying to offer some helpful criticism: the U.S. is a great country, but it does have some significant problems and looks like it has lost its way over the last while.  Face these problems.  Don't excuse them by saying other places are worse, and please don't impose your problems on your neighbors.  Yeah, we have our special problems too.  We need to work on them together, not make things worse for each other.</p><p>Knowing our relationship, either Canada will cave to the U.S. requests (but that's politically risky for the government currently in power here, and would break the law as currently written), or the U.S. might grant an exception (but they're already pretty good to us compared to other countries -- this might be asking too much more).  I don't know.  But we'll work something out, because that's what friends do even if they're arguing about something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The U.S. might be pretty bad when the best excuse you can offer for 'security theatre ' is that some other countries are worse .
The U.S. is supposed to be a world leader of freedom and democracy , not a place where you can justify anything by saying , " Well , yeah , but country \ _fill \ _in \ _blank \ _here \ _ is far worse .
" As long as there are basket-case countries in the world like Iran , Libya , North Korea , etc. , you can sink pretty darn low and still be " ahead " of somebody on almost any issue you care to choose.The film industry is a special quirk in Canada because we live next door to a country with 10x our population and economy , and with a particularly * massive * entertainment industry .
Ostensibly the regulations on U.S. influence in the Canadian film industry are in order to protect " Canadian culture " .
The premise is that if the industry were completely open , all the Canadian companies would close up shop and move to the U.S. ( because it 's a much bigger market ) , and all the U.S. companies would n't bother producing anything here ( because we 're merely an extra 10 \ % market ) .
Even so , we are constantly inundated by U.S. culture on TV , in film , and just about any other media you can name .
If it 's any consolation , I think the laws regarding Canadian content are stupid and you should be able to work here on the same terms as any other visitor working here .
On a personal note : the Canada-U.S. relationship is pretty special , and if it is in your economic interest it is far easier for you to become a joint citizen of Canada and get around our silly laws that way than for anyone else in the world .
It might be worth looking into.Even granting the validity of your point ( that many of the criticisms of the U.S. are cherry picking and it is n't that bad overall ) , and granting that I agree with your overall sentiment ( the U.S. is * not * that bad a place , and I really love the people ) , it is no excuse for holding back on the things for which the U.S. truly deserves criticism .
And one of those things is the INSANE overreaction with regards to security , and the idiotic security theatre that the system will put people through -- both their own citizens and foreigners -- simply in order to travel .
And when fulfilling that stupid theatre starts grinding away at the privacy laws in my * own * country , then yeah I 'm going to speak up and protest about it .
I know you guys do n't have the same privacy laws we do in Canada , but I thought that was one of the better things here , and I was hoping that you 'd eventually implement something similar , because the people in the U.S. certainly have similar concerns about the issue of government gaining too much access to personal information .
Now I 'm thinking that hope is pointless , because you 'll throw it all away for the sake of " security " .
Heck , your government just outsources the whole business to third parties , and then fourth parties [ slashdot.org ] ( !
) to use the loopholes in what privacy legislation you do have , even though your constitution ostensibly protects the information.Look , this is a * friend * trying to offer some helpful criticism : the U.S. is a great country , but it does have some significant problems and looks like it has lost its way over the last while .
Face these problems .
Do n't excuse them by saying other places are worse , and please do n't impose your problems on your neighbors .
Yeah , we have our special problems too .
We need to work on them together , not make things worse for each other.Knowing our relationship , either Canada will cave to the U.S. requests ( but that 's politically risky for the government currently in power here , and would break the law as currently written ) , or the U.S. might grant an exception ( but they 're already pretty good to us compared to other countries -- this might be asking too much more ) .
I do n't know .
But we 'll work something out , because that 's what friends do even if they 're arguing about something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The U.S. might be pretty bad when the best excuse you can offer for 'security theatre' is that some other countries are worse.
The U.S. is supposed to be a world leader of freedom and democracy, not a place where you can justify anything by saying, "Well, yeah, but country \_fill\_in\_blank\_here\_ is far worse.
"  As long as there are basket-case countries in the world like Iran, Libya, North Korea, etc., you can sink pretty darn low and still be "ahead" of somebody on almost any issue you care to choose.The film industry is a special quirk in Canada because we live next door to a country with 10x our population and economy, and with a particularly *massive* entertainment industry.
Ostensibly the regulations on U.S. influence in the Canadian film industry are in order to protect "Canadian culture".
The premise is that if the industry were completely open, all the Canadian companies would close up shop and move to the U.S. (because it's a much bigger market), and all the U.S. companies wouldn't bother producing anything here (because we're merely an extra 10\% market).
Even so, we are constantly inundated by U.S. culture on TV, in film, and just about any other media you can name.
If it's any consolation, I think the laws regarding Canadian content are stupid and you should be able to work here on the same terms as any other visitor working here.
On a personal note: the Canada-U.S. relationship is pretty special, and if it is in your economic interest it is far easier for you to become a joint citizen of Canada and get around our silly laws that way than for anyone else in the world.
It might be worth looking into.Even granting the validity of your point (that many of the criticisms of the U.S. are cherry picking and it isn't that bad overall), and granting that I agree with your overall sentiment (the U.S. is *not* that bad a place, and I really love the people), it is no excuse for holding back on the things for which the U.S. truly deserves criticism.
And one of those things is the INSANE overreaction with regards to security, and the idiotic security theatre that the system will put people through -- both their own citizens and foreigners -- simply in order to travel.
And when fulfilling that stupid theatre starts grinding away at the privacy laws in my *own* country, then yeah I'm going to speak up and protest about it.
I know you guys don't have the same privacy laws we do in Canada, but I thought that was one of the better things here, and I was hoping that you'd eventually implement something similar, because the people in the U.S. certainly have similar concerns about the issue of government gaining too much access to personal information.
Now I'm thinking that hope is pointless, because you'll throw it all away for the sake of "security".
Heck, your government just outsources the whole business to third parties, and then fourth parties [slashdot.org] (!
) to use the loopholes in what privacy legislation you do have, even though your constitution ostensibly protects the information.Look, this is a *friend* trying to offer some helpful criticism: the U.S. is a great country, but it does have some significant problems and looks like it has lost its way over the last while.
Face these problems.
Don't excuse them by saying other places are worse, and please don't impose your problems on your neighbors.
Yeah, we have our special problems too.
We need to work on them together, not make things worse for each other.Knowing our relationship, either Canada will cave to the U.S. requests (but that's politically risky for the government currently in power here, and would break the law as currently written), or the U.S. might grant an exception (but they're already pretty good to us compared to other countries -- this might be asking too much more).
I don't know.
But we'll work something out, because that's what friends do even if they're arguing about something.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30630920</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1262521800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>Am I the only one that is completely confused?</b></htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one that is completely confused ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one that is completely confused?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626564</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>MacGyver2210</author>
	<datestamp>1262429880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's just a record. Who cares? They have a fingerprint and your picture. I'm sure they could get the same by watching a security video of you in the airport and picking up a glass after you use it. Not exactly invasive.<p>
Japan has always been notoriously 'cautious' of foreigners. I've yet to see them do anything overbearing with this information they collect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's just a record .
Who cares ?
They have a fingerprint and your picture .
I 'm sure they could get the same by watching a security video of you in the airport and picking up a glass after you use it .
Not exactly invasive .
Japan has always been notoriously 'cautious ' of foreigners .
I 've yet to see them do anything overbearing with this information they collect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's just a record.
Who cares?
They have a fingerprint and your picture.
I'm sure they could get the same by watching a security video of you in the airport and picking up a glass after you use it.
Not exactly invasive.
Japan has always been notoriously 'cautious' of foreigners.
I've yet to see them do anything overbearing with this information they collect.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30627160</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262433900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As does the USA.</p><p>Mandatory fingerprints and photos (either of your face or just the eyes - I'm not sure) as instructed by the sometimes friendly and sometimes not-so-friendly DHS dude.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As does the USA.Mandatory fingerprints and photos ( either of your face or just the eyes - I 'm not sure ) as instructed by the sometimes friendly and sometimes not-so-friendly DHS dude .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As does the USA.Mandatory fingerprints and photos (either of your face or just the eyes - I'm not sure) as instructed by the sometimes friendly and sometimes not-so-friendly DHS dude.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626836</id>
	<title>Just say NO</title>
	<author>sukotto</author>
	<datestamp>1262431800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Speaking as a Canadian...I think we should tell those paranoid xenophobes to go fuck themselves.</p><p>Jean Chr&#233;tien had a lot of flaws, but at least he had the balls to tell the Americans to stop pushing us around.</p><p>If they are concerned about passenger security then they can damn well set up more of those "you're guilty until proven innocent" security-theatre checkpoints on their own soil and search people getting off the plane.  Hell, they can even build special security airports at the borders to inspect people's shoes and water bottles.</p><p>(Sad to think that would probably be a better use of their funding than most of the stupid crap they've wasted their money on in the last 9 years)</p><p>Go ahead and mod me down American nationalist zealots<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I have karma to burn and I'm tired of putting up with America's bullshit.</p><p>[/rant]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Speaking as a Canadian...I think we should tell those paranoid xenophobes to go fuck themselves.Jean Chr   tien had a lot of flaws , but at least he had the balls to tell the Americans to stop pushing us around.If they are concerned about passenger security then they can damn well set up more of those " you 're guilty until proven innocent " security-theatre checkpoints on their own soil and search people getting off the plane .
Hell , they can even build special security airports at the borders to inspect people 's shoes and water bottles .
( Sad to think that would probably be a better use of their funding than most of the stupid crap they 've wasted their money on in the last 9 years ) Go ahead and mod me down American nationalist zealots ... I have karma to burn and I 'm tired of putting up with America 's bullshit .
[ /rant ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Speaking as a Canadian...I think we should tell those paranoid xenophobes to go fuck themselves.Jean Chrétien had a lot of flaws, but at least he had the balls to tell the Americans to stop pushing us around.If they are concerned about passenger security then they can damn well set up more of those "you're guilty until proven innocent" security-theatre checkpoints on their own soil and search people getting off the plane.
Hell, they can even build special security airports at the borders to inspect people's shoes and water bottles.
(Sad to think that would probably be a better use of their funding than most of the stupid crap they've wasted their money on in the last 9 years)Go ahead and mod me down American nationalist zealots ... I have karma to burn and I'm tired of putting up with America's bullshit.
[/rant]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30633526</id>
	<title>Canadian Airlines Face Dilemma</title>
	<author>thesquire</author>
	<datestamp>1262550240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This should be easy to resolve, providing the airlines management had and principles and any balls.  Just give the U.S. bastards the actual names and "erroneous" data.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This should be easy to resolve , providing the airlines management had and principles and any balls .
Just give the U.S. bastards the actual names and " erroneous " data .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This should be easy to resolve, providing the airlines management had and principles and any balls.
Just give the U.S. bastards the actual names and "erroneous" data.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626036</id>
	<title>Turnabout may be a fair remedy to bad policy...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262426580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin, c. 1775

Might I suggest the right answer for Canada (and I say this as an American) is to deny use of Canadian Airspace and/or landing rights to U.S. carriers until this demand is withdrawn? And on the U.S. side, to simply state that Canada can take whatever measures it wishes to guarantee aviation safety, but any damages that involve flights departs from Canadian airports that resulting from failures in whatever aviation safety system Canada may choose to implement will then be paid from randomly seized Canadian assets in the U.S.?

Let Canada figure it out, and if they get it wrong, let Canada pay!</htmltext>
<tokenext>They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety , deserve neither liberty nor safety .
- Benjamin Franklin , c. 1775 Might I suggest the right answer for Canada ( and I say this as an American ) is to deny use of Canadian Airspace and/or landing rights to U.S. carriers until this demand is withdrawn ?
And on the U.S. side , to simply state that Canada can take whatever measures it wishes to guarantee aviation safety , but any damages that involve flights departs from Canadian airports that resulting from failures in whatever aviation safety system Canada may choose to implement will then be paid from randomly seized Canadian assets in the U.S. ?
Let Canada figure it out , and if they get it wrong , let Canada pay !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- Benjamin Franklin, c. 1775

Might I suggest the right answer for Canada (and I say this as an American) is to deny use of Canadian Airspace and/or landing rights to U.S. carriers until this demand is withdrawn?
And on the U.S. side, to simply state that Canada can take whatever measures it wishes to guarantee aviation safety, but any damages that involve flights departs from Canadian airports that resulting from failures in whatever aviation safety system Canada may choose to implement will then be paid from randomly seized Canadian assets in the U.S.?
Let Canada figure it out, and if they get it wrong, let Canada pay!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30629482</id>
	<title>Easy legal solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262456280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Collect the required passenger info, then transmit it the moment the plane crosses into U.S. space.  Canadian laws aren't violated, and US officials get to satisfy their paranoia.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Collect the required passenger info , then transmit it the moment the plane crosses into U.S. space. Canadian laws are n't violated , and US officials get to satisfy their paranoia .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Collect the required passenger info, then transmit it the moment the plane crosses into U.S. space.  Canadian laws aren't violated, and US officials get to satisfy their paranoia.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30630762</id>
	<title>Re:Missing something here?</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1262518860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm not a huge fan of the TSA's retarded procedures, but if you want to fly over our airspace, you play by our rules. That's pretty intuitive.</p></div><p>Everyone has a freedom to be a jerk - it's not illegal - but being a jerk is not a good idea, regardless. It's also worth pointing such people (and countries) out, hence TFA.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not a huge fan of the TSA 's retarded procedures , but if you want to fly over our airspace , you play by our rules .
That 's pretty intuitive.Everyone has a freedom to be a jerk - it 's not illegal - but being a jerk is not a good idea , regardless .
It 's also worth pointing such people ( and countries ) out , hence TFA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not a huge fan of the TSA's retarded procedures, but if you want to fly over our airspace, you play by our rules.
That's pretty intuitive.Everyone has a freedom to be a jerk - it's not illegal - but being a jerk is not a good idea, regardless.
It's also worth pointing such people (and countries) out, hence TFA.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30634546</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>starfishsystems</author>
	<datestamp>1262515920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>You don't have to come to the States just hop on a plane to some other countries around the world and actually see what's out there.</i>
<br> <br>
Hey.  What a great idea!
<br> <br>
Come to think of it, I do that already.  And, not being American nor living in the United States, I have the additional benefit of neutrality when I compare my experiences of travelling in all of these different countries, the US being just one on a long list.  It also helps in reducing bias, I think, to speak several languages.
<br> <br>
So, what can I report?  Well, I find that Americans, as people, are absolutely great.  They're genuinely friendly and candid and pretty decent for the most part.  They remind me a lot of Austrians, and Israelis, and rural French, and Fijians, and Germans definitely, and Moroccans, and the Canadians and English too, come to think of it.
<br> <br>
I find that as people, we're all a fairly similar mix.  There's a lot of goodwill, but there's often also some weird shit going on when you dig a little deeper, and unlike the universality that I've just been describing, this weirdness seems very specifically cultural.  As just one example, I notice a special and profound sort of ignorance, even by educated Americans, of the world outside their own ideology.  Other cultures have their weirdnesses too, don't get me wrong, but this one is particularly vexing because it underpins the matter under discussion.
<br> <br>
I can also report that the United States, as a government, presents one of the most repressive faces of any I have seen on my travels.  Even in the days of the Soviet Union and Intourist, I was never handled with the same sort of contempt as I have found commonplace among American officials in their treatment of visitors.  The Soviet officials were just coldly going about their jobs.  The American ones seem to be exercising a kind of personal righteousness.
<br> <br>
Now, I <i>know</i> this is not representative of the American people.  The United States has been struggling with itself ever since the Civil War.  You tend to mistrust your own government in ways which make a sad kind of sense to me, but you have to understand that other countries aren't generally like that.  Even the nasty ones, strange to say.
<br> <br>
<i>If it isn't the utopia you pictured then try the US and see if it's as bad as you thought.</i>
<br> <br>
Ahem.  Don't fool yourselves.  Not only has it been bad for a long time, it's getting worse.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't have to come to the States just hop on a plane to some other countries around the world and actually see what 's out there .
Hey. What a great idea !
Come to think of it , I do that already .
And , not being American nor living in the United States , I have the additional benefit of neutrality when I compare my experiences of travelling in all of these different countries , the US being just one on a long list .
It also helps in reducing bias , I think , to speak several languages .
So , what can I report ?
Well , I find that Americans , as people , are absolutely great .
They 're genuinely friendly and candid and pretty decent for the most part .
They remind me a lot of Austrians , and Israelis , and rural French , and Fijians , and Germans definitely , and Moroccans , and the Canadians and English too , come to think of it .
I find that as people , we 're all a fairly similar mix .
There 's a lot of goodwill , but there 's often also some weird shit going on when you dig a little deeper , and unlike the universality that I 've just been describing , this weirdness seems very specifically cultural .
As just one example , I notice a special and profound sort of ignorance , even by educated Americans , of the world outside their own ideology .
Other cultures have their weirdnesses too , do n't get me wrong , but this one is particularly vexing because it underpins the matter under discussion .
I can also report that the United States , as a government , presents one of the most repressive faces of any I have seen on my travels .
Even in the days of the Soviet Union and Intourist , I was never handled with the same sort of contempt as I have found commonplace among American officials in their treatment of visitors .
The Soviet officials were just coldly going about their jobs .
The American ones seem to be exercising a kind of personal righteousness .
Now , I know this is not representative of the American people .
The United States has been struggling with itself ever since the Civil War .
You tend to mistrust your own government in ways which make a sad kind of sense to me , but you have to understand that other countries are n't generally like that .
Even the nasty ones , strange to say .
If it is n't the utopia you pictured then try the US and see if it 's as bad as you thought .
Ahem. Do n't fool yourselves .
Not only has it been bad for a long time , it 's getting worse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't have to come to the States just hop on a plane to some other countries around the world and actually see what's out there.
Hey.  What a great idea!
Come to think of it, I do that already.
And, not being American nor living in the United States, I have the additional benefit of neutrality when I compare my experiences of travelling in all of these different countries, the US being just one on a long list.
It also helps in reducing bias, I think, to speak several languages.
So, what can I report?
Well, I find that Americans, as people, are absolutely great.
They're genuinely friendly and candid and pretty decent for the most part.
They remind me a lot of Austrians, and Israelis, and rural French, and Fijians, and Germans definitely, and Moroccans, and the Canadians and English too, come to think of it.
I find that as people, we're all a fairly similar mix.
There's a lot of goodwill, but there's often also some weird shit going on when you dig a little deeper, and unlike the universality that I've just been describing, this weirdness seems very specifically cultural.
As just one example, I notice a special and profound sort of ignorance, even by educated Americans, of the world outside their own ideology.
Other cultures have their weirdnesses too, don't get me wrong, but this one is particularly vexing because it underpins the matter under discussion.
I can also report that the United States, as a government, presents one of the most repressive faces of any I have seen on my travels.
Even in the days of the Soviet Union and Intourist, I was never handled with the same sort of contempt as I have found commonplace among American officials in their treatment of visitors.
The Soviet officials were just coldly going about their jobs.
The American ones seem to be exercising a kind of personal righteousness.
Now, I know this is not representative of the American people.
The United States has been struggling with itself ever since the Civil War.
You tend to mistrust your own government in ways which make a sad kind of sense to me, but you have to understand that other countries aren't generally like that.
Even the nasty ones, strange to say.
If it isn't the utopia you pictured then try the US and see if it's as bad as you thought.
Ahem.  Don't fool yourselves.
Not only has it been bad for a long time, it's getting worse.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30627150</id>
	<title>Re:Even transiting in the US is an ordeal.</title>
	<author>Martin Blank</author>
	<datestamp>1262433780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most people don't fly on a regular basis.  They simply presume that everything that they see is there because each step will absolutely stop a would-be terrorist.  They often didn't fly enough before 9/11 to understand the relatively simple way airport security was handled before.  Some of those that fly a little more and think things are a bit over the top are afraid to speak up for fear that they will end up on a watch list.  Most of those that don't fly don't care, because it doesn't affect them.</p><p>I fly often enough that I can incorporate most changes without much of a thought.  I make a point of watching as I go through for opportunities where something could fail, and then consider how I would handle such a breach.  Someone could bring an awfully big bomb in a backpack or carry-on suitcase to the security lines on a busy day and detonate it.  A bottle containing a powerful explosive could be dropped into the trash can just before the metal detectors, set to go off 30 minutes or an hour later.  The presence of a couple of bomb-sniffing dogs would probably make that much more difficult, and remove much of the need to do things like remove shoes or notebook computers for individual scanning.</p><p>The problem is that people are afraid that they will be proven wrong when a measure is taken away.  Stop requiring shoes to come off, and another bomber might try to blow up his feet.  Then whoever said that this should end is blamed (or feels like he's being blamed) for the attempt (or worse).  And no one -- especially not those getting a paycheck from the government -- wants to be in that position, because it means at least loss of his job, and if it's a politician, losses in the next election for both him and his party.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most people do n't fly on a regular basis .
They simply presume that everything that they see is there because each step will absolutely stop a would-be terrorist .
They often did n't fly enough before 9/11 to understand the relatively simple way airport security was handled before .
Some of those that fly a little more and think things are a bit over the top are afraid to speak up for fear that they will end up on a watch list .
Most of those that do n't fly do n't care , because it does n't affect them.I fly often enough that I can incorporate most changes without much of a thought .
I make a point of watching as I go through for opportunities where something could fail , and then consider how I would handle such a breach .
Someone could bring an awfully big bomb in a backpack or carry-on suitcase to the security lines on a busy day and detonate it .
A bottle containing a powerful explosive could be dropped into the trash can just before the metal detectors , set to go off 30 minutes or an hour later .
The presence of a couple of bomb-sniffing dogs would probably make that much more difficult , and remove much of the need to do things like remove shoes or notebook computers for individual scanning.The problem is that people are afraid that they will be proven wrong when a measure is taken away .
Stop requiring shoes to come off , and another bomber might try to blow up his feet .
Then whoever said that this should end is blamed ( or feels like he 's being blamed ) for the attempt ( or worse ) .
And no one -- especially not those getting a paycheck from the government -- wants to be in that position , because it means at least loss of his job , and if it 's a politician , losses in the next election for both him and his party .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most people don't fly on a regular basis.
They simply presume that everything that they see is there because each step will absolutely stop a would-be terrorist.
They often didn't fly enough before 9/11 to understand the relatively simple way airport security was handled before.
Some of those that fly a little more and think things are a bit over the top are afraid to speak up for fear that they will end up on a watch list.
Most of those that don't fly don't care, because it doesn't affect them.I fly often enough that I can incorporate most changes without much of a thought.
I make a point of watching as I go through for opportunities where something could fail, and then consider how I would handle such a breach.
Someone could bring an awfully big bomb in a backpack or carry-on suitcase to the security lines on a busy day and detonate it.
A bottle containing a powerful explosive could be dropped into the trash can just before the metal detectors, set to go off 30 minutes or an hour later.
The presence of a couple of bomb-sniffing dogs would probably make that much more difficult, and remove much of the need to do things like remove shoes or notebook computers for individual scanning.The problem is that people are afraid that they will be proven wrong when a measure is taken away.
Stop requiring shoes to come off, and another bomber might try to blow up his feet.
Then whoever said that this should end is blamed (or feels like he's being blamed) for the attempt (or worse).
And no one -- especially not those getting a paycheck from the government -- wants to be in that position, because it means at least loss of his job, and if it's a politician, losses in the next election for both him and his party.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625840</id>
	<title>US bullying and demanding other countries..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262425380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.. to do exactly what they say, or suffer?</p><p>Now I didn't see this one coming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.. to do exactly what they say , or suffer ? Now I did n't see this one coming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.. to do exactly what they say, or suffer?Now I didn't see this one coming.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626352</id>
	<title>Re:US bullying and demanding other countries..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262428500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>
And what about the poor people in the USA who then suffer from reduced visitors, whether academic, tourist or friends and family? When the US government's laws affect other nations, the US pays the price as well. The people of the US are victims of this too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And what about the poor people in the USA who then suffer from reduced visitors , whether academic , tourist or friends and family ?
When the US government 's laws affect other nations , the US pays the price as well .
The people of the US are victims of this too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
And what about the poor people in the USA who then suffer from reduced visitors, whether academic, tourist or friends and family?
When the US government's laws affect other nations, the US pays the price as well.
The people of the US are victims of this too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626206</id>
	<title>Vote On It !</title>
	<author>b4upoo</author>
	<datestamp>1262427720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>          Since we are not allowed to know if even one, single, lone, terrorist attack in the US has been thwarted by these information lists just what can a citizen do? Sending mail to a congressman or voting according to a position on more of this information collection is absurd as we simply are not allowed to have a clue as to whether this tactic works at all. For all I know perhaps this nonsense simply creates jobs that fat cat politicians hand out to their buddies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since we are not allowed to know if even one , single , lone , terrorist attack in the US has been thwarted by these information lists just what can a citizen do ?
Sending mail to a congressman or voting according to a position on more of this information collection is absurd as we simply are not allowed to have a clue as to whether this tactic works at all .
For all I know perhaps this nonsense simply creates jobs that fat cat politicians hand out to their buddies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>          Since we are not allowed to know if even one, single, lone, terrorist attack in the US has been thwarted by these information lists just what can a citizen do?
Sending mail to a congressman or voting according to a position on more of this information collection is absurd as we simply are not allowed to have a clue as to whether this tactic works at all.
For all I know perhaps this nonsense simply creates jobs that fat cat politicians hand out to their buddies.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626166</id>
	<title>Good.</title>
	<author>gbutler69</author>
	<datestamp>1262427480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Your country never interested me!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your country never interested me !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your country never interested me!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30629968</id>
	<title>Re:Vote On It !</title>
	<author>Web Goddess</author>
	<datestamp>1262462040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>amen</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>amen</tokentext>
<sentencetext>amen</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626704</id>
	<title>Re:US bullying and demanding other countries..</title>
	<author>Klobbersaurus</author>
	<datestamp>1262430660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Isn't that exactly what we used to criticize the Soviet Union for doing? We stared into the abyss all right, but the abyss stared right back into us.</p></div><p>The Shit Abyss?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't that exactly what we used to criticize the Soviet Union for doing ?
We stared into the abyss all right , but the abyss stared right back into us.The Shit Abyss ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't that exactly what we used to criticize the Soviet Union for doing?
We stared into the abyss all right, but the abyss stared right back into us.The Shit Abyss?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626594</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262430000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think we can live with out euro-trash.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think we can live with out euro-trash .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think we can live with out euro-trash.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30627692</id>
	<title>Pfft...whiners my @ss</title>
	<author>SilverJets</author>
	<datestamp>1262437380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Canada is just returning the courtesy show to her citizens by the US.   There are Canadians forbidden from entering the US or doing business with the US because they do business with countries or companies in countries of which the US does not approve  (such as Cuba).  They don't have criminal records, they're just doing business with someone the US hates.  This coming from a bunch of moronic hypocrites that sell weapons to a country (Iraq) or train terrorists (bin Laden) and then get a farking surprised look on their faces when it comes back to bite them in the ass.  Give me a break.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Canada is just returning the courtesy show to her citizens by the US .
There are Canadians forbidden from entering the US or doing business with the US because they do business with countries or companies in countries of which the US does not approve ( such as Cuba ) .
They do n't have criminal records , they 're just doing business with someone the US hates .
This coming from a bunch of moronic hypocrites that sell weapons to a country ( Iraq ) or train terrorists ( bin Laden ) and then get a farking surprised look on their faces when it comes back to bite them in the ass .
Give me a break .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Canada is just returning the courtesy show to her citizens by the US.
There are Canadians forbidden from entering the US or doing business with the US because they do business with countries or companies in countries of which the US does not approve  (such as Cuba).
They don't have criminal records, they're just doing business with someone the US hates.
This coming from a bunch of moronic hypocrites that sell weapons to a country (Iraq) or train terrorists (bin Laden) and then get a farking surprised look on their faces when it comes back to bite them in the ass.
Give me a break.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30628124</id>
	<title>Missing something here?</title>
	<author>d34dluk3</author>
	<datestamp>1262440860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not a huge fan of the TSA's retarded procedures, but if you want to fly over our airspace, you play by our rules. That's pretty intuitive.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not a huge fan of the TSA 's retarded procedures , but if you want to fly over our airspace , you play by our rules .
That 's pretty intuitive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not a huge fan of the TSA's retarded procedures, but if you want to fly over our airspace, you play by our rules.
That's pretty intuitive.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626454</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262429280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So I say ever other country starts finger-printing and frisking Americans just as a matter of policy.</p><p>See how long before the state departments starts whining about that.</p><p>This is precisely why I won't fly into a US airport.  Fuck 'em, you country no longer interests me.</p></div><p>You obviously don't get out much. Most countries do far worse than the US. There's a lot of anti American sentiment on Slashdot. Try flying into Saudi Arabia with an Israeli passport or even more fun vice versa. If you listen to some people on Slashdot the US is worse than the Soviet Union ever was. I grew up during the Cold War and that's just plain silly. I've also traveled to many foreign countries and trust me the US isn't that bad and most of the bad was in response to foreigners attacking us. We also have one of the more open immigration and residency policies. Virtually anyone can work here, legal or not, yet oddly enough few countries welcome Americans to work there. I've known many Brits, Australians and Dutch, just examples, that constantly bemoaned how awful it was getting work permits here or how bad the country was yet oddly enough they were working here. I wouldn't be welcome in any of their countries without changing citizenship. Canada has an open immigration policy yet Americans aren't allowed to work there. I work in the film industry and oddly enough it's flooded with Canadians both actors and crew but I can't work there. As a writer I need a Canadian to share writing credit to have a film shot there and it's tough as a director even to work there when it's my script. The whole point is for all the bad things done the negative aspects of the US are ALWAYS overstated and the good points generally ignored. We help support a lot of other countries and economies and we're simply expected to with little or no acknowledgement. We get blasted for using too many resources yet we are also attacked for not buying enough from other countries, odd given our trade deficit. Also we export a large percentage of the food grown here then get blasted over biofuels and that we use too much food. What happens is cherry picking. It's childsplay to find bad laws and bad policies, every country has them. With the US it often seems that's all anyone outside the country wants to see. Most Americans don't agree with their government policies but it's a problem that exists in most countries and is hardly unique to this country. We got blamed for the Bush years but few pointed out the majority of Americans voted against him. He won by a technicality. It's ridiculous to blame each one of us for everything our government does. Just because we get stuck with a certain leader doesn't make us all rightwing conservatives like flipping some cosmic switch. Each country has had their political crosses to bear. You don't have to come to the States just hop on a plane to some other countries around the world and actually see what's out there. If it isn't the utopia you pictured then try the US and see if it's as bad as you thought. Ya gotta leave your parent's basement some time.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So I say ever other country starts finger-printing and frisking Americans just as a matter of policy.See how long before the state departments starts whining about that.This is precisely why I wo n't fly into a US airport .
Fuck 'em , you country no longer interests me.You obviously do n't get out much .
Most countries do far worse than the US .
There 's a lot of anti American sentiment on Slashdot .
Try flying into Saudi Arabia with an Israeli passport or even more fun vice versa .
If you listen to some people on Slashdot the US is worse than the Soviet Union ever was .
I grew up during the Cold War and that 's just plain silly .
I 've also traveled to many foreign countries and trust me the US is n't that bad and most of the bad was in response to foreigners attacking us .
We also have one of the more open immigration and residency policies .
Virtually anyone can work here , legal or not , yet oddly enough few countries welcome Americans to work there .
I 've known many Brits , Australians and Dutch , just examples , that constantly bemoaned how awful it was getting work permits here or how bad the country was yet oddly enough they were working here .
I would n't be welcome in any of their countries without changing citizenship .
Canada has an open immigration policy yet Americans are n't allowed to work there .
I work in the film industry and oddly enough it 's flooded with Canadians both actors and crew but I ca n't work there .
As a writer I need a Canadian to share writing credit to have a film shot there and it 's tough as a director even to work there when it 's my script .
The whole point is for all the bad things done the negative aspects of the US are ALWAYS overstated and the good points generally ignored .
We help support a lot of other countries and economies and we 're simply expected to with little or no acknowledgement .
We get blasted for using too many resources yet we are also attacked for not buying enough from other countries , odd given our trade deficit .
Also we export a large percentage of the food grown here then get blasted over biofuels and that we use too much food .
What happens is cherry picking .
It 's childsplay to find bad laws and bad policies , every country has them .
With the US it often seems that 's all anyone outside the country wants to see .
Most Americans do n't agree with their government policies but it 's a problem that exists in most countries and is hardly unique to this country .
We got blamed for the Bush years but few pointed out the majority of Americans voted against him .
He won by a technicality .
It 's ridiculous to blame each one of us for everything our government does .
Just because we get stuck with a certain leader does n't make us all rightwing conservatives like flipping some cosmic switch .
Each country has had their political crosses to bear .
You do n't have to come to the States just hop on a plane to some other countries around the world and actually see what 's out there .
If it is n't the utopia you pictured then try the US and see if it 's as bad as you thought .
Ya got ta leave your parent 's basement some time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I say ever other country starts finger-printing and frisking Americans just as a matter of policy.See how long before the state departments starts whining about that.This is precisely why I won't fly into a US airport.
Fuck 'em, you country no longer interests me.You obviously don't get out much.
Most countries do far worse than the US.
There's a lot of anti American sentiment on Slashdot.
Try flying into Saudi Arabia with an Israeli passport or even more fun vice versa.
If you listen to some people on Slashdot the US is worse than the Soviet Union ever was.
I grew up during the Cold War and that's just plain silly.
I've also traveled to many foreign countries and trust me the US isn't that bad and most of the bad was in response to foreigners attacking us.
We also have one of the more open immigration and residency policies.
Virtually anyone can work here, legal or not, yet oddly enough few countries welcome Americans to work there.
I've known many Brits, Australians and Dutch, just examples, that constantly bemoaned how awful it was getting work permits here or how bad the country was yet oddly enough they were working here.
I wouldn't be welcome in any of their countries without changing citizenship.
Canada has an open immigration policy yet Americans aren't allowed to work there.
I work in the film industry and oddly enough it's flooded with Canadians both actors and crew but I can't work there.
As a writer I need a Canadian to share writing credit to have a film shot there and it's tough as a director even to work there when it's my script.
The whole point is for all the bad things done the negative aspects of the US are ALWAYS overstated and the good points generally ignored.
We help support a lot of other countries and economies and we're simply expected to with little or no acknowledgement.
We get blasted for using too many resources yet we are also attacked for not buying enough from other countries, odd given our trade deficit.
Also we export a large percentage of the food grown here then get blasted over biofuels and that we use too much food.
What happens is cherry picking.
It's childsplay to find bad laws and bad policies, every country has them.
With the US it often seems that's all anyone outside the country wants to see.
Most Americans don't agree with their government policies but it's a problem that exists in most countries and is hardly unique to this country.
We got blamed for the Bush years but few pointed out the majority of Americans voted against him.
He won by a technicality.
It's ridiculous to blame each one of us for everything our government does.
Just because we get stuck with a certain leader doesn't make us all rightwing conservatives like flipping some cosmic switch.
Each country has had their political crosses to bear.
You don't have to come to the States just hop on a plane to some other countries around the world and actually see what's out there.
If it isn't the utopia you pictured then try the US and see if it's as bad as you thought.
Ya gotta leave your parent's basement some time.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626244</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't this violate...</title>
	<author>copponex</author>
	<datestamp>1262427960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since when has signing international treaties caused us to abide by them? We'll invent a legal loophole and continue to pretend that everything is justified by the never ending war for Freedom and Democracy.</p><p>Everyone knows that only Americans are righteous enough to defend such lofty ideals from lawless barbarians.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since when has signing international treaties caused us to abide by them ?
We 'll invent a legal loophole and continue to pretend that everything is justified by the never ending war for Freedom and Democracy.Everyone knows that only Americans are righteous enough to defend such lofty ideals from lawless barbarians .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since when has signing international treaties caused us to abide by them?
We'll invent a legal loophole and continue to pretend that everything is justified by the never ending war for Freedom and Democracy.Everyone knows that only Americans are righteous enough to defend such lofty ideals from lawless barbarians.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30627510</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262436060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Brazil already does that to (only) Americans, based on reciprocity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Brazil already does that to ( only ) Americans , based on reciprocity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Brazil already does that to (only) Americans, based on reciprocity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626122</id>
	<title>What about Alaska?</title>
	<author>jjh37997</author>
	<datestamp>1262427240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If we block them they block us and soon we'll be traveling to Alaska via Russia (which I've heard you can see via some of the houses on the coast)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If we block them they block us and soon we 'll be traveling to Alaska via Russia ( which I 've heard you can see via some of the houses on the coast )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we block them they block us and soon we'll be traveling to Alaska via Russia (which I've heard you can see via some of the houses on the coast)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626616</id>
	<title>Re:US bullying and demanding other countries..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262430120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Soviet Russia, abyss stares into you!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Soviet Russia , abyss stares into you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Soviet Russia, abyss stares into you!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626834</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1262431800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is about flights that are only traveling through US airspace, not landing in the US, so they are already not going there.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is about flights that are only traveling through US airspace , not landing in the US , so they are already not going there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is about flights that are only traveling through US airspace, not landing in the US, so they are already not going there.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30627212</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262434200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is so incredibly funny.<br>I'm going to Brazil in a few weeks' time, and I recently looked up the visa requirements.</p><p>The site I checked said that people should \_carefully\_ check to see if their country was on the list of countries needing visa arrangements.</p><p>The \_only\_ country on that list is the US.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is so incredibly funny.I 'm going to Brazil in a few weeks ' time , and I recently looked up the visa requirements.The site I checked said that people should \ _carefully \ _ check to see if their country was on the list of countries needing visa arrangements.The \ _only \ _ country on that list is the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is so incredibly funny.I'm going to Brazil in a few weeks' time, and I recently looked up the visa requirements.The site I checked said that people should \_carefully\_ check to see if their country was on the list of countries needing visa arrangements.The \_only\_ country on that list is the US.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626250</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30629772</id>
	<title>Re:Just say NO</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262459940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Jean Chr&#233;tien had a lot of flaws, but at least he had the balls to tell the Americans to stop pushing us around.</i></p><p>Really? Examples? Chr&#233;tien's years as prime minister were marked by incompetence, corruption, and occasional mediocrity. He's lucky he didn't end up in jail after the fraud uncovered by the Gomery investigation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jean Chr   tien had a lot of flaws , but at least he had the balls to tell the Americans to stop pushing us around.Really ?
Examples ? Chr   tien 's years as prime minister were marked by incompetence , corruption , and occasional mediocrity .
He 's lucky he did n't end up in jail after the fraud uncovered by the Gomery investigation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jean Chrétien had a lot of flaws, but at least he had the balls to tell the Americans to stop pushing us around.Really?
Examples? Chrétien's years as prime minister were marked by incompetence, corruption, and occasional mediocrity.
He's lucky he didn't end up in jail after the fraud uncovered by the Gomery investigation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626836</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625970</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262426220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Japan already <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7102962.stm" title="bbc.co.uk">fingerprints and photographs</a> [bbc.co.uk] <b>all</b> foreigners when they enter the country.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Japan already fingerprints and photographs [ bbc.co.uk ] all foreigners when they enter the country .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Japan already fingerprints and photographs [bbc.co.uk] all foreigners when they enter the country.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625874</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626138</id>
	<title>Re:Just ignore them...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262427300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just ignore the US, if they make a big stink about it then one by one we should start shutting off all the things we supply them:</p><p>Water<br>Electricity<br>Oil<br>Access to Alaska</p><p>Eventually they will give in to reason.</p></div><p>And the Alaska National Guard would have to kick Canada's ass. Now that would be an entertaining 15 minutes.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just ignore the US , if they make a big stink about it then one by one we should start shutting off all the things we supply them : WaterElectricityOilAccess to AlaskaEventually they will give in to reason.And the Alaska National Guard would have to kick Canada 's ass .
Now that would be an entertaining 15 minutes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just ignore the US, if they make a big stink about it then one by one we should start shutting off all the things we supply them:WaterElectricityOilAccess to AlaskaEventually they will give in to reason.And the Alaska National Guard would have to kick Canada's ass.
Now that would be an entertaining 15 minutes.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625968</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30630400</id>
	<title>Re:Fork it over, and it changes... nothing.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262511960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From the pdf you linked three times:</p><p>"The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) defines &ldquo;full name&rdquo; as the name that matches<br>the full name listed on the individual&rsquo;s Verifying Identity Document (VID) as defined in 49 CFR<br>1560.3."</p><p>No problem for people with no middle names - none of their documents have a middle name!  My roommate is from a family where the women are traditionally just not given middle names (dates back to the Scots in her ancestry, I think?).  Passport, driver's license, birth certificate, social security card - all of that has just her first and last name.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From the pdf you linked three times : " The Transportation Security Administration ( TSA ) defines    full name    as the name that matchesthe full name listed on the individual    s Verifying Identity Document ( VID ) as defined in 49 CFR1560.3 .
" No problem for people with no middle names - none of their documents have a middle name !
My roommate is from a family where the women are traditionally just not given middle names ( dates back to the Scots in her ancestry , I think ? ) .
Passport , driver 's license , birth certificate , social security card - all of that has just her first and last name .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the pdf you linked three times:"The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) defines “full name” as the name that matchesthe full name listed on the individual’s Verifying Identity Document (VID) as defined in 49 CFR1560.3.
"No problem for people with no middle names - none of their documents have a middle name!
My roommate is from a family where the women are traditionally just not given middle names (dates back to the Scots in her ancestry, I think?).
Passport, driver's license, birth certificate, social security card - all of that has just her first and last name.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626452</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30628574</id>
	<title>Re:Just say NO</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262446020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd have to agree, what are they going to do, shoot down passenger planes?</p><p>Realistically they might try something like revoking fair trade or restricting imports and exports, but in the long run that can only be a good thing as if they do it to everyone they'll choke and drown. They need the rest of the world a lot, the other way around not so much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd have to agree , what are they going to do , shoot down passenger planes ? Realistically they might try something like revoking fair trade or restricting imports and exports , but in the long run that can only be a good thing as if they do it to everyone they 'll choke and drown .
They need the rest of the world a lot , the other way around not so much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd have to agree, what are they going to do, shoot down passenger planes?Realistically they might try something like revoking fair trade or restricting imports and exports, but in the long run that can only be a good thing as if they do it to everyone they'll choke and drown.
They need the rest of the world a lot, the other way around not so much.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626836</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625992</id>
	<title>bi7cH</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262426340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>and the bootom</htmltext>
<tokenext>and the bootom</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and the bootom</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626092</id>
	<title>Doesn't this violate...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262427060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Chaper 2, article 5 of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention\_on\_International\_Civil\_Aviation" title="wikipedia.org">Convention on International Civil Aviation</a> [wikipedia.org]? I believe both the US and Canada are signatories. (actual document can be found <a href="http://www.icao.int/icaonet/dcs/7300\_cons.pdf" title="icao.int">here</a> [icao.int].<blockquote><div><p>Each contracting State agrees that all aircraft of the other
contracting States, being aircraft not engaged in scheduled
international air services shall have the right, subject to the
observance of the terms of this Convention, to make flights
into or in transit non-stop across its territory and to make stops
for non-traffic purposes without the necessity of obtaining prior
permission, and subject to the right of the State flown over to
require landing. Each contracting State nevertheless reserves
the right, for reasons of safety of flight, to require aircraft
desiring to proceed over regions which are inaccessible or
without adequate air navigation facilities to follow prescribed
routes, or to obtain special permission for such flights.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Now, I suppose the US could legitimately demand that any flights crossing its territory make a landing, hence subjecting passengers to inspection per Article 9(b-c), but that's only supposed to be available on a temporary basis.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Chaper 2 , article 5 of the Convention on International Civil Aviation [ wikipedia.org ] ?
I believe both the US and Canada are signatories .
( actual document can be found here [ icao.int ] .Each contracting State agrees that all aircraft of the other contracting States , being aircraft not engaged in scheduled international air services shall have the right , subject to the observance of the terms of this Convention , to make flights into or in transit non-stop across its territory and to make stops for non-traffic purposes without the necessity of obtaining prior permission , and subject to the right of the State flown over to require landing .
Each contracting State nevertheless reserves the right , for reasons of safety of flight , to require aircraft desiring to proceed over regions which are inaccessible or without adequate air navigation facilities to follow prescribed routes , or to obtain special permission for such flights .
Now , I suppose the US could legitimately demand that any flights crossing its territory make a landing , hence subjecting passengers to inspection per Article 9 ( b-c ) , but that 's only supposed to be available on a temporary basis .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Chaper 2, article 5 of the Convention on International Civil Aviation [wikipedia.org]?
I believe both the US and Canada are signatories.
(actual document can be found here [icao.int].Each contracting State agrees that all aircraft of the other
contracting States, being aircraft not engaged in scheduled
international air services shall have the right, subject to the
observance of the terms of this Convention, to make flights
into or in transit non-stop across its territory and to make stops
for non-traffic purposes without the necessity of obtaining prior
permission, and subject to the right of the State flown over to
require landing.
Each contracting State nevertheless reserves
the right, for reasons of safety of flight, to require aircraft
desiring to proceed over regions which are inaccessible or
without adequate air navigation facilities to follow prescribed
routes, or to obtain special permission for such flights.
Now, I suppose the US could legitimately demand that any flights crossing its territory make a landing, hence subjecting passengers to inspection per Article 9(b-c), but that's only supposed to be available on a temporary basis.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30631622</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262533800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We got blamed for the Bush years but few pointed out the majority of Americans voted against him.</p></div><p>By your own admission...<br>And you go around giving the rest of the world lessons in democracy?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We got blamed for the Bush years but few pointed out the majority of Americans voted against him.By your own admission...And you go around giving the rest of the world lessons in democracy ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We got blamed for the Bush years but few pointed out the majority of Americans voted against him.By your own admission...And you go around giving the rest of the world lessons in democracy?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626454</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626388</id>
	<title>Re:Even transiting in the US is an ordeal.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262428800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>They would still think it's justified. They are still scared shitless over 9/11 and other evil things that many Americans still think this shit is all a good idea.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They would still think it 's justified .
They are still scared shitless over 9/11 and other evil things that many Americans still think this shit is all a good idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They would still think it's justified.
They are still scared shitless over 9/11 and other evil things that many Americans still think this shit is all a good idea.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626000</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626900</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1262432100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is why I stick my fingers up my ass before entering Japan. It's the small things that give you pleasure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why I stick my fingers up my ass before entering Japan .
It 's the small things that give you pleasure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why I stick my fingers up my ass before entering Japan.
It's the small things that give you pleasure.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626350</id>
	<title>Go to EAST !</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262428500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do we need to go the USA anymore.....It isn't fun anymore to get there.....The planet those evolves around the U.S........there is other places<nobr> <wbr></nobr>......</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do we need to go the USA anymore.....It is n't fun anymore to get there.....The planet those evolves around the U.S........there is other places ..... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do we need to go the USA anymore.....It isn't fun anymore to get there.....The planet those evolves around the U.S........there is other places ......</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30635228</id>
	<title>Re:Just say NO</title>
	<author>eyore15</author>
	<datestamp>1262520420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have you ever tried to get into an area where the flight is going to Israel? Drop by the Frankfurt airport and try to dawdle around the secure areas.  Even a transit in Turkey can be a bit painful.  Those armed vehicles outside the airport in Athens aren't the most welcoming of sights.  It's just a condition of wanting to fly into/our of those places.  As someone already said, if you don't want the hassle of U.S. rules, just avoid us.  Lots of very nice boats can get you where you want to go.  We won't fly over sovereign air space (look at the hoops we have to jump through to get planes into Afghanistan -- but don't start please on that thread); we respect, for example, Russia's right to keep us out of their air.  Yes the TSA people could do with a bit more professionalism at times, but I've found the bulk of them to be courteous and professional.  And yes, we Americans need to get over ourselves.  And yes, we need a better world view when it comes to simple things like understanding people's names.  But can and should we set rules and procedures that we feel protect our country?  You bet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you ever tried to get into an area where the flight is going to Israel ?
Drop by the Frankfurt airport and try to dawdle around the secure areas .
Even a transit in Turkey can be a bit painful .
Those armed vehicles outside the airport in Athens are n't the most welcoming of sights .
It 's just a condition of wanting to fly into/our of those places .
As someone already said , if you do n't want the hassle of U.S. rules , just avoid us .
Lots of very nice boats can get you where you want to go .
We wo n't fly over sovereign air space ( look at the hoops we have to jump through to get planes into Afghanistan -- but do n't start please on that thread ) ; we respect , for example , Russia 's right to keep us out of their air .
Yes the TSA people could do with a bit more professionalism at times , but I 've found the bulk of them to be courteous and professional .
And yes , we Americans need to get over ourselves .
And yes , we need a better world view when it comes to simple things like understanding people 's names .
But can and should we set rules and procedures that we feel protect our country ?
You bet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you ever tried to get into an area where the flight is going to Israel?
Drop by the Frankfurt airport and try to dawdle around the secure areas.
Even a transit in Turkey can be a bit painful.
Those armed vehicles outside the airport in Athens aren't the most welcoming of sights.
It's just a condition of wanting to fly into/our of those places.
As someone already said, if you don't want the hassle of U.S. rules, just avoid us.
Lots of very nice boats can get you where you want to go.
We won't fly over sovereign air space (look at the hoops we have to jump through to get planes into Afghanistan -- but don't start please on that thread); we respect, for example, Russia's right to keep us out of their air.
Yes the TSA people could do with a bit more professionalism at times, but I've found the bulk of them to be courteous and professional.
And yes, we Americans need to get over ourselves.
And yes, we need a better world view when it comes to simple things like understanding people's names.
But can and should we set rules and procedures that we feel protect our country?
You bet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626836</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626922</id>
	<title>Lost Tourism</title>
	<author>Gonoff</author>
	<datestamp>1262432280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Like many people, I think that the USA should be worth visiting but...</p><p>I have no wish to be treated like a criminal.  Even domestic UK flights are barely tolerable and it is getting worse.</p><p>
I am not being driven away from your country by the scumbag terrorists.  I am being kept away by all that I hear about the security tripe.</p><p>You allegedly lost the next Olympics because of it.  It can't be helping your economy.  Billions spent on the TSA and other useless rubbish as well as an indeterminate amount not collected from foreigners - despite the rather amusing adverts starring the Governator.</p><p>That still leaves me cars, boats and trains for the summer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Like many people , I think that the USA should be worth visiting but...I have no wish to be treated like a criminal .
Even domestic UK flights are barely tolerable and it is getting worse .
I am not being driven away from your country by the scumbag terrorists .
I am being kept away by all that I hear about the security tripe.You allegedly lost the next Olympics because of it .
It ca n't be helping your economy .
Billions spent on the TSA and other useless rubbish as well as an indeterminate amount not collected from foreigners - despite the rather amusing adverts starring the Governator.That still leaves me cars , boats and trains for the summer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like many people, I think that the USA should be worth visiting but...I have no wish to be treated like a criminal.
Even domestic UK flights are barely tolerable and it is getting worse.
I am not being driven away from your country by the scumbag terrorists.
I am being kept away by all that I hear about the security tripe.You allegedly lost the next Olympics because of it.
It can't be helping your economy.
Billions spent on the TSA and other useless rubbish as well as an indeterminate amount not collected from foreigners - despite the rather amusing adverts starring the Governator.That still leaves me cars, boats and trains for the summer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30631776</id>
	<title>Nationalized airplanes = terrorists targets.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262535420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Airlines are attacked because they are nationalized.  Almost all airlines get subsidies from governments so a nation can claim to have an airline.  Stop giving public money to airlines and airlines will stopped being attacked.  There is no capitalism left ANYWHERE in the world, just socialism.  Why not have a private plane company, private airports, and private security?  All airplane manufacturers all sell military airplanes.  Airplane companies get public money.  Lots of government regulations, not safety, say what airlines can land where and why.  Airports are controlled by municipal, federal and regional governments. Stop the subsidies, stop the laws saying that a country needs a national airline,  OR admit that the flight business is state controlled and do a better job controlling it.  One national carrier, no more, tightly controlled.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Airlines are attacked because they are nationalized .
Almost all airlines get subsidies from governments so a nation can claim to have an airline .
Stop giving public money to airlines and airlines will stopped being attacked .
There is no capitalism left ANYWHERE in the world , just socialism .
Why not have a private plane company , private airports , and private security ?
All airplane manufacturers all sell military airplanes .
Airplane companies get public money .
Lots of government regulations , not safety , say what airlines can land where and why .
Airports are controlled by municipal , federal and regional governments .
Stop the subsidies , stop the laws saying that a country needs a national airline , OR admit that the flight business is state controlled and do a better job controlling it .
One national carrier , no more , tightly controlled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Airlines are attacked because they are nationalized.
Almost all airlines get subsidies from governments so a nation can claim to have an airline.
Stop giving public money to airlines and airlines will stopped being attacked.
There is no capitalism left ANYWHERE in the world, just socialism.
Why not have a private plane company, private airports, and private security?
All airplane manufacturers all sell military airplanes.
Airplane companies get public money.
Lots of government regulations, not safety, say what airlines can land where and why.
Airports are controlled by municipal, federal and regional governments.
Stop the subsidies, stop the laws saying that a country needs a national airline,  OR admit that the flight business is state controlled and do a better job controlling it.
One national carrier, no more, tightly controlled.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626066</id>
	<title>Huron?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262426820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Toronto is on Lake Ontario</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Toronto is on Lake Ontario</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Toronto is on Lake Ontario</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626452</id>
	<title>Fork it over, and it changes... nothing.</title>
	<author>girlintraining</author>
	<datestamp>1262429220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Handing over information regarding a passenger's name, gender and birth-date may violate Canadian privacy laws</p></div><p>What's worse is that the TSA can't even get any of those three facts right in many cases.</p><p><a href="http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/secure\_flight\_passenger\_data\_definitions.pdf" title="tsa.gov">Last Name</a> [tsa.gov]: "Alphabetic, no numeric or special characters, except dash ( - ) and single quote ( ' ). Do not include suffixes (e.g., jr.). Truncate names longer than 35 characters to 35 characters".<br><a href="http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/secure\_flight\_passenger\_data\_definitions.pdf" title="tsa.gov">First Name</a> [tsa.gov]: "Secure Flight allows first initial only;" otherwise, same as last name. Honorifics are not to be placed in the name.<br><a href="http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/secure\_flight\_passenger\_data\_definitions.pdf" title="tsa.gov">Middle Name</a> [tsa.gov]: same as first name.</p><p>So if any of your three names doesn't perfectly fit this convention, you will be hit with a $100 <a href="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/airlines\_profit.html" title="schneier.com">Change fee</a> [schneier.com], including if you don't have a middle name. This is particularily problematic for asian, greek, or many other nationalities whose names include special characters or when translated to english result in a name longer than 35 characters.</p><p><a href="http://polyperversity.blogspot.com/2009/03/tsa-wants-to-know-your-gender.html" title="blogspot.com">Gender</a> [blogspot.com]: Once again, the TSA fails to account for any manner of diversity in the human population. Anyone who doesn't conform to the gender stereotype fixed to your official documents will be subject to additional (unwanted) attention. I wonder if they'll be offering sensitivity training for the crossdressers, transgendered, butch lesbians, and intersexed amongst us. And god help you if the Driver's Bureau screws up, or you live in a state that won't alter birth records after surgery, or one of a dozen other very real problems.</p><p>Birthdate: Did you know a lot of people who immigrate to this country <i>don't know when they were born</i>? In fact, in developing countries, it's quite common for people not to know their actual age. People assume a person's date of birth is a fixed thing -- how could you screw that up? And if you live in this country, you don't have to worry about this anyway. Well, remember that until the mid-90s the Social Security Administration wasn't so on about immediately registering newborns -- and did you know some people choose to have their kids at home? Some people don't get a birth certificate until they're five years old because parents just plain forget -- and for a variety of reasons, sometimes they fudge the actual date. Try getting this changed later -- it's fun.</p><p>In short, there's no real security being added here. All of it can be defeated quite easily in any event by putting a gun to the head of your wife, kid, or anything else you don't feel like losing. And as we make these security restrictions increasingly ethnocentric, the terrorists will adapt their strategies accordingly, because the payoff is so damn good! They sucked the US economy of <i>trillions</i> of dollars and all they had to do was crash four passenger planes. We offer the best "bang for the buck", literally and figuratively. It doesn't matter if they make it ten <i>thousand</i> times more difficult and expensive to pull another 9/11 job -- it's still an amazingly good deal for the terrorists.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Handing over information regarding a passenger 's name , gender and birth-date may violate Canadian privacy lawsWhat 's worse is that the TSA ca n't even get any of those three facts right in many cases.Last Name [ tsa.gov ] : " Alphabetic , no numeric or special characters , except dash ( - ) and single quote ( ' ) .
Do not include suffixes ( e.g. , jr. ) .
Truncate names longer than 35 characters to 35 characters " .First Name [ tsa.gov ] : " Secure Flight allows first initial only ; " otherwise , same as last name .
Honorifics are not to be placed in the name.Middle Name [ tsa.gov ] : same as first name.So if any of your three names does n't perfectly fit this convention , you will be hit with a $ 100 Change fee [ schneier.com ] , including if you do n't have a middle name .
This is particularily problematic for asian , greek , or many other nationalities whose names include special characters or when translated to english result in a name longer than 35 characters.Gender [ blogspot.com ] : Once again , the TSA fails to account for any manner of diversity in the human population .
Anyone who does n't conform to the gender stereotype fixed to your official documents will be subject to additional ( unwanted ) attention .
I wonder if they 'll be offering sensitivity training for the crossdressers , transgendered , butch lesbians , and intersexed amongst us .
And god help you if the Driver 's Bureau screws up , or you live in a state that wo n't alter birth records after surgery , or one of a dozen other very real problems.Birthdate : Did you know a lot of people who immigrate to this country do n't know when they were born ?
In fact , in developing countries , it 's quite common for people not to know their actual age .
People assume a person 's date of birth is a fixed thing -- how could you screw that up ?
And if you live in this country , you do n't have to worry about this anyway .
Well , remember that until the mid-90s the Social Security Administration was n't so on about immediately registering newborns -- and did you know some people choose to have their kids at home ?
Some people do n't get a birth certificate until they 're five years old because parents just plain forget -- and for a variety of reasons , sometimes they fudge the actual date .
Try getting this changed later -- it 's fun.In short , there 's no real security being added here .
All of it can be defeated quite easily in any event by putting a gun to the head of your wife , kid , or anything else you do n't feel like losing .
And as we make these security restrictions increasingly ethnocentric , the terrorists will adapt their strategies accordingly , because the payoff is so damn good !
They sucked the US economy of trillions of dollars and all they had to do was crash four passenger planes .
We offer the best " bang for the buck " , literally and figuratively .
It does n't matter if they make it ten thousand times more difficult and expensive to pull another 9/11 job -- it 's still an amazingly good deal for the terrorists .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Handing over information regarding a passenger's name, gender and birth-date may violate Canadian privacy lawsWhat's worse is that the TSA can't even get any of those three facts right in many cases.Last Name [tsa.gov]: "Alphabetic, no numeric or special characters, except dash ( - ) and single quote ( ' ).
Do not include suffixes (e.g., jr.).
Truncate names longer than 35 characters to 35 characters".First Name [tsa.gov]: "Secure Flight allows first initial only;" otherwise, same as last name.
Honorifics are not to be placed in the name.Middle Name [tsa.gov]: same as first name.So if any of your three names doesn't perfectly fit this convention, you will be hit with a $100 Change fee [schneier.com], including if you don't have a middle name.
This is particularily problematic for asian, greek, or many other nationalities whose names include special characters or when translated to english result in a name longer than 35 characters.Gender [blogspot.com]: Once again, the TSA fails to account for any manner of diversity in the human population.
Anyone who doesn't conform to the gender stereotype fixed to your official documents will be subject to additional (unwanted) attention.
I wonder if they'll be offering sensitivity training for the crossdressers, transgendered, butch lesbians, and intersexed amongst us.
And god help you if the Driver's Bureau screws up, or you live in a state that won't alter birth records after surgery, or one of a dozen other very real problems.Birthdate: Did you know a lot of people who immigrate to this country don't know when they were born?
In fact, in developing countries, it's quite common for people not to know their actual age.
People assume a person's date of birth is a fixed thing -- how could you screw that up?
And if you live in this country, you don't have to worry about this anyway.
Well, remember that until the mid-90s the Social Security Administration wasn't so on about immediately registering newborns -- and did you know some people choose to have their kids at home?
Some people don't get a birth certificate until they're five years old because parents just plain forget -- and for a variety of reasons, sometimes they fudge the actual date.
Try getting this changed later -- it's fun.In short, there's no real security being added here.
All of it can be defeated quite easily in any event by putting a gun to the head of your wife, kid, or anything else you don't feel like losing.
And as we make these security restrictions increasingly ethnocentric, the terrorists will adapt their strategies accordingly, because the payoff is so damn good!
They sucked the US economy of trillions of dollars and all they had to do was crash four passenger planes.
We offer the best "bang for the buck", literally and figuratively.
It doesn't matter if they make it ten thousand times more difficult and expensive to pull another 9/11 job -- it's still an amazingly good deal for the terrorists.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625968</id>
	<title>Just ignore them...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262426220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just ignore the US, if they make a big stink about it then one by one we should start shutting off all the things we supply them:</p><p>Water<br>Electricity<br>Oil<br>Access to Alaska</p><p>Eventually they will give in to reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just ignore the US , if they make a big stink about it then one by one we should start shutting off all the things we supply them : WaterElectricityOilAccess to AlaskaEventually they will give in to reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just ignore the US, if they make a big stink about it then one by one we should start shutting off all the things we supply them:WaterElectricityOilAccess to AlaskaEventually they will give in to reason.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30627260</id>
	<title>How long until...</title>
	<author>WidescreenFreak</author>
	<datestamp>1262434440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder at what point the TSA will simply declare that flying in and of itself is so dangerous or so loaded with potential terrorists that all air travel will be banned.
<br> <br>
And I <i>really</i> wish I could use a "sarcasm" tag with my statement. Unfortunately, I can't bring myself to do that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder at what point the TSA will simply declare that flying in and of itself is so dangerous or so loaded with potential terrorists that all air travel will be banned .
And I really wish I could use a " sarcasm " tag with my statement .
Unfortunately , I ca n't bring myself to do that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder at what point the TSA will simply declare that flying in and of itself is so dangerous or so loaded with potential terrorists that all air travel will be banned.
And I really wish I could use a "sarcasm" tag with my statement.
Unfortunately, I can't bring myself to do that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626196</id>
	<title>Re:US bullying and demanding other countries..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262427660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Airspace is sovereign territory. Requiring conditions of those who enter it may be onerous, but it isn't odd.</p><p>Don't like the conditions, don't go there. Boycott the US.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Airspace is sovereign territory .
Requiring conditions of those who enter it may be onerous , but it is n't odd.Do n't like the conditions , do n't go there .
Boycott the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Airspace is sovereign territory.
Requiring conditions of those who enter it may be onerous, but it isn't odd.Don't like the conditions, don't go there.
Boycott the US.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30638828</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262602260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>'ve known many Brits, Australians and Dutch, just examples, that constantly bemoaned how awful it was getting work permits here or how bad the country was yet oddly enough they were working here. I wouldn't be welcome in any of their countries without changing citizenship</p></div><p>Wtf? I'm Dutch and I've worked with many Americans who lived and worked here for many years. Where do you get the ridiculous idea that we ask Americans (or foreigners) to change citizenship?</p><p>Even if you are talking about permanent resident status (immigration), we have such a thing as dual citizenship.</p></div>
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<tokenext>'ve known many Brits , Australians and Dutch , just examples , that constantly bemoaned how awful it was getting work permits here or how bad the country was yet oddly enough they were working here .
I would n't be welcome in any of their countries without changing citizenshipWtf ?
I 'm Dutch and I 've worked with many Americans who lived and worked here for many years .
Where do you get the ridiculous idea that we ask Americans ( or foreigners ) to change citizenship ? Even if you are talking about permanent resident status ( immigration ) , we have such a thing as dual citizenship .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'ve known many Brits, Australians and Dutch, just examples, that constantly bemoaned how awful it was getting work permits here or how bad the country was yet oddly enough they were working here.
I wouldn't be welcome in any of their countries without changing citizenshipWtf?
I'm Dutch and I've worked with many Americans who lived and worked here for many years.
Where do you get the ridiculous idea that we ask Americans (or foreigners) to change citizenship?Even if you are talking about permanent resident status (immigration), we have such a thing as dual citizenship.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30630138</id>
	<title>Re:Vote On It !</title>
	<author>Monolith1</author>
	<datestamp>1262550540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>          Since we are not allowed to know if even one, single, lone, terrorist attack in the US has been thwarted by these information lists just what can a citizen do? Sending mail to a congressman or voting according to a position on more of this information collection is absurd as we simply are not allowed to have a clue as to whether this tactic works at all. For all I know perhaps this nonsense simply creates jobs that fat cat politicians hand out to their buddies.</p></div><p>My concern is few modern governments would be prepared to wind back the powers they have now as a combined result of all the "security measures" put in place since 9/11.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since we are not allowed to know if even one , single , lone , terrorist attack in the US has been thwarted by these information lists just what can a citizen do ?
Sending mail to a congressman or voting according to a position on more of this information collection is absurd as we simply are not allowed to have a clue as to whether this tactic works at all .
For all I know perhaps this nonsense simply creates jobs that fat cat politicians hand out to their buddies.My concern is few modern governments would be prepared to wind back the powers they have now as a combined result of all the " security measures " put in place since 9/11 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>          Since we are not allowed to know if even one, single, lone, terrorist attack in the US has been thwarted by these information lists just what can a citizen do?
Sending mail to a congressman or voting according to a position on more of this information collection is absurd as we simply are not allowed to have a clue as to whether this tactic works at all.
For all I know perhaps this nonsense simply creates jobs that fat cat politicians hand out to their buddies.My concern is few modern governments would be prepared to wind back the powers they have now as a combined result of all the "security measures" put in place since 9/11.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30629168</id>
	<title>american nationalist zealot responds:</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1262452260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>let us increase funding and illicit aid for the quebecois separatists, and with the next vote of secession, finally divide canada into 3 parts. alberta will choose union with us freely, and then we have 3 smaller anglocanadian units and one frog unit to deal with. divided, internally contentious and much weaker in comparison, we shall dispatch these remnants one by one and digest the mostly useless icebox in our attic once and for all. leave quebec free as a rump reminder. i'm sick of the mosquitoes whining above us (oh no wait, we're talking about the canadian prairie: better get used to mosquitoes. and mud. when its not ice)</p><p>since we are already culturally and linguistically assimilated, political domination will be easy. canada is after all, nothing but unincorporated american territory. i know you take pride in the 1812 trouncing that is the only reason you even exist but that wasn't done by canadians. it was done by the british. its strange to me to take pride in a supposed nationality that had to be finally forcibly weaned from the british imperial tit in the 1980s(!). and yet you still have some foreign bitch on your money. pathetic. this is a national identity to take pride in?</p><p>&lt;back to reality/&gt;</p><p>that's not how the usa deals with canada. or thinks of canada. but that's what an american nationalist zealot would think. are you sure you are dealing with what you think you are dealing with?</p><p>reality: relations between canada and the usa is probably the most peaceful relationship between two large neighboring countries in the history of the world. so admit that, and mellow your loud ignorant words</p><p>now, if you insist on the "american nationalist zealot" line, i can point to many parallels in the world that might not be so cheerful for canada. if you want a powerful neighbor ruled by nationalist zealots, you can always try the imperial empires of china and russia, and if you know your history of how those empires divided, dissolved, neutralized and incorporated their neighbors over the centuries, you'll be thanking your lucky stars that the usa is your southern neighbor. i'm sorry, your ONLY neighbor. if the usa were run by actual nationalist zealots hell bent on empire, canada would be our siberia or our tibet/ xinjiang in a heartbeat. and if you want to say that the history of the usa IS like russia and china, then you're merely leveling the moral playing field to pointless equivalency, because canada is certainly no saint in the nation-building crimes list:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis\_Riel" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis\_Riel</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>we surround you, and we are peaceful with you. sorry our airspace policies displease you</p><p>but know the relative truth of the reality of canada-usa relations in the history of the world, and be thankful you have the neighbor you do. i am thankful for the peaceful mostly upstanding neighbor to our north, so return the favorable impression. lest you sound like just another whiny clueless prick. we plenty of those in this world and on this forum</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>let us increase funding and illicit aid for the quebecois separatists , and with the next vote of secession , finally divide canada into 3 parts .
alberta will choose union with us freely , and then we have 3 smaller anglocanadian units and one frog unit to deal with .
divided , internally contentious and much weaker in comparison , we shall dispatch these remnants one by one and digest the mostly useless icebox in our attic once and for all .
leave quebec free as a rump reminder .
i 'm sick of the mosquitoes whining above us ( oh no wait , we 're talking about the canadian prairie : better get used to mosquitoes .
and mud .
when its not ice ) since we are already culturally and linguistically assimilated , political domination will be easy .
canada is after all , nothing but unincorporated american territory .
i know you take pride in the 1812 trouncing that is the only reason you even exist but that was n't done by canadians .
it was done by the british .
its strange to me to take pride in a supposed nationality that had to be finally forcibly weaned from the british imperial tit in the 1980s ( ! ) .
and yet you still have some foreign bitch on your money .
pathetic. this is a national identity to take pride in ? that 's not how the usa deals with canada .
or thinks of canada .
but that 's what an american nationalist zealot would think .
are you sure you are dealing with what you think you are dealing with ? reality : relations between canada and the usa is probably the most peaceful relationship between two large neighboring countries in the history of the world .
so admit that , and mellow your loud ignorant wordsnow , if you insist on the " american nationalist zealot " line , i can point to many parallels in the world that might not be so cheerful for canada .
if you want a powerful neighbor ruled by nationalist zealots , you can always try the imperial empires of china and russia , and if you know your history of how those empires divided , dissolved , neutralized and incorporated their neighbors over the centuries , you 'll be thanking your lucky stars that the usa is your southern neighbor .
i 'm sorry , your ONLY neighbor .
if the usa were run by actual nationalist zealots hell bent on empire , canada would be our siberia or our tibet/ xinjiang in a heartbeat .
and if you want to say that the history of the usa IS like russia and china , then you 're merely leveling the moral playing field to pointless equivalency , because canada is certainly no saint in the nation-building crimes list : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis \ _Riel [ wikipedia.org ] we surround you , and we are peaceful with you .
sorry our airspace policies displease youbut know the relative truth of the reality of canada-usa relations in the history of the world , and be thankful you have the neighbor you do .
i am thankful for the peaceful mostly upstanding neighbor to our north , so return the favorable impression .
lest you sound like just another whiny clueless prick .
we plenty of those in this world and on this forum</tokentext>
<sentencetext>let us increase funding and illicit aid for the quebecois separatists, and with the next vote of secession, finally divide canada into 3 parts.
alberta will choose union with us freely, and then we have 3 smaller anglocanadian units and one frog unit to deal with.
divided, internally contentious and much weaker in comparison, we shall dispatch these remnants one by one and digest the mostly useless icebox in our attic once and for all.
leave quebec free as a rump reminder.
i'm sick of the mosquitoes whining above us (oh no wait, we're talking about the canadian prairie: better get used to mosquitoes.
and mud.
when its not ice)since we are already culturally and linguistically assimilated, political domination will be easy.
canada is after all, nothing but unincorporated american territory.
i know you take pride in the 1812 trouncing that is the only reason you even exist but that wasn't done by canadians.
it was done by the british.
its strange to me to take pride in a supposed nationality that had to be finally forcibly weaned from the british imperial tit in the 1980s(!).
and yet you still have some foreign bitch on your money.
pathetic. this is a national identity to take pride in?that's not how the usa deals with canada.
or thinks of canada.
but that's what an american nationalist zealot would think.
are you sure you are dealing with what you think you are dealing with?reality: relations between canada and the usa is probably the most peaceful relationship between two large neighboring countries in the history of the world.
so admit that, and mellow your loud ignorant wordsnow, if you insist on the "american nationalist zealot" line, i can point to many parallels in the world that might not be so cheerful for canada.
if you want a powerful neighbor ruled by nationalist zealots, you can always try the imperial empires of china and russia, and if you know your history of how those empires divided, dissolved, neutralized and incorporated their neighbors over the centuries, you'll be thanking your lucky stars that the usa is your southern neighbor.
i'm sorry, your ONLY neighbor.
if the usa were run by actual nationalist zealots hell bent on empire, canada would be our siberia or our tibet/ xinjiang in a heartbeat.
and if you want to say that the history of the usa IS like russia and china, then you're merely leveling the moral playing field to pointless equivalency, because canada is certainly no saint in the nation-building crimes list:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis\_Riel [wikipedia.org]we surround you, and we are peaceful with you.
sorry our airspace policies displease youbut know the relative truth of the reality of canada-usa relations in the history of the world, and be thankful you have the neighbor you do.
i am thankful for the peaceful mostly upstanding neighbor to our north, so return the favorable impression.
lest you sound like just another whiny clueless prick.
we plenty of those in this world and on this forum</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626172</id>
	<title>Re:US bullying and demanding other countries..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262427540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, it is time for the USA to end. Let us in Florida proclaim independence and become Cuba del Norte. Mexicans do the same in California and New Mexico and they become Mexico del Norte. Puerto Ricans and Dominicans can do the same in NY so it becomes Caribe del Norte. So the schizo paranoid Anglos will have only the mid-west and Texas. So, we will get all the Sunshine, all the pretty girls and the pathetic white blind Anglo-Saxon cucarachas can have all their fingerprinting and X-Rays for themselves. This war the muslims are waving is not against the Hispanic or the Black people in the US, it is against the white christian aryan nation, so fuck the whites we can have our own countries where we are already majority and they can keep the rest of the USSA for themselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it is time for the USA to end .
Let us in Florida proclaim independence and become Cuba del Norte .
Mexicans do the same in California and New Mexico and they become Mexico del Norte .
Puerto Ricans and Dominicans can do the same in NY so it becomes Caribe del Norte .
So the schizo paranoid Anglos will have only the mid-west and Texas .
So , we will get all the Sunshine , all the pretty girls and the pathetic white blind Anglo-Saxon cucarachas can have all their fingerprinting and X-Rays for themselves .
This war the muslims are waving is not against the Hispanic or the Black people in the US , it is against the white christian aryan nation , so fuck the whites we can have our own countries where we are already majority and they can keep the rest of the USSA for themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it is time for the USA to end.
Let us in Florida proclaim independence and become Cuba del Norte.
Mexicans do the same in California and New Mexico and they become Mexico del Norte.
Puerto Ricans and Dominicans can do the same in NY so it becomes Caribe del Norte.
So the schizo paranoid Anglos will have only the mid-west and Texas.
So, we will get all the Sunshine, all the pretty girls and the pathetic white blind Anglo-Saxon cucarachas can have all their fingerprinting and X-Rays for themselves.
This war the muslims are waving is not against the Hispanic or the Black people in the US, it is against the white christian aryan nation, so fuck the whites we can have our own countries where we are already majority and they can keep the rest of the USSA for themselves.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626372</id>
	<title>You're either with us or with the terrorists...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262428680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War\_Plan\_Red" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">War Plan Red</a> [wikipedia.org] is Go!!!</p><p>Invade Canada!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>War Plan Red [ wikipedia.org ] is Go ! !
! Invade Canada !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>War Plan Red [wikipedia.org] is Go!!
!Invade Canada!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30628818</id>
	<title>Re:Fork it over, and it changes... nothing.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262448540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you have to change your BIRTH record to reflect your CURRENT gender/sex, then there's something wrong with the system. I know some places/companies won't acknowledge your gender otherwise, but that's what I meant by something wrong with the system. The ideology that your body is fixed since birth is outdated and needs to be fixed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you have to change your BIRTH record to reflect your CURRENT gender/sex , then there 's something wrong with the system .
I know some places/companies wo n't acknowledge your gender otherwise , but that 's what I meant by something wrong with the system .
The ideology that your body is fixed since birth is outdated and needs to be fixed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you have to change your BIRTH record to reflect your CURRENT gender/sex, then there's something wrong with the system.
I know some places/companies won't acknowledge your gender otherwise, but that's what I meant by something wrong with the system.
The ideology that your body is fixed since birth is outdated and needs to be fixed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626452</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30630372</id>
	<title>This is becoming a real clusterf*ck</title>
	<author>Whuffo</author>
	<datestamp>1262511420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hi, I'm an American. One of the first families, in fact. That said, I'd like to say that I do not approve of what's been going on over the recent past in regard to "preventing terrorist attacks." If the "dividing line" is the 9/11 attack on New York by those Saudi Arabian criminals then it's worth noting that there have been exactly as many attacks on American soil since then "thanks to the increased security" as there were in all the years of air travel preceding this awful day.<p>
Unfortunately, our elected leaders don't see the insanity. They don't see that they're doing the terrorist's job more effectively than the terrorists ever imagined. They don't see how many airline and TSA employees are using this as an excuse to lie and steal. They have the right to go through your baggage - but you don't have the right to keep your personal property if they want to take it. Do they have rules and regulations to follow? Don't ask - it's none of your business, citizen. Do these people know how foolish they look? No. </p><p>
I've taken every opportunity to vote for people who said they would not perpetuate this nonsense - but there doesn't seem to be any way for a simple American citizen to stop this lunacy. I know that I do NOT want to travel on any airline these days - and if I have to, I know not to take a laptop or IPod along - or anything else that the watchers may find suspicious or desirable.</p><p>
What I'd really like to tell them: Hey, I'm an American citizen - who gave you the right to harass the citizens of this country? But they won't answer and it seems that our so-called representative government is more concerned with preserving and improving the status quo than doing the job they were elected to do.</p><p>
Sheesh; Bush was a disaster and Obama promised to undo the extremes and provide more transparency. Yeah, right - so Obama lied to us and is following the Bush plan. As a citizen, I'd like to apologize to those in other countries for the behavior of our government. We didn't ask them to act this way and we can't seem to find a way to get them to stop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi , I 'm an American .
One of the first families , in fact .
That said , I 'd like to say that I do not approve of what 's been going on over the recent past in regard to " preventing terrorist attacks .
" If the " dividing line " is the 9/11 attack on New York by those Saudi Arabian criminals then it 's worth noting that there have been exactly as many attacks on American soil since then " thanks to the increased security " as there were in all the years of air travel preceding this awful day .
Unfortunately , our elected leaders do n't see the insanity .
They do n't see that they 're doing the terrorist 's job more effectively than the terrorists ever imagined .
They do n't see how many airline and TSA employees are using this as an excuse to lie and steal .
They have the right to go through your baggage - but you do n't have the right to keep your personal property if they want to take it .
Do they have rules and regulations to follow ?
Do n't ask - it 's none of your business , citizen .
Do these people know how foolish they look ?
No . I 've taken every opportunity to vote for people who said they would not perpetuate this nonsense - but there does n't seem to be any way for a simple American citizen to stop this lunacy .
I know that I do NOT want to travel on any airline these days - and if I have to , I know not to take a laptop or IPod along - or anything else that the watchers may find suspicious or desirable .
What I 'd really like to tell them : Hey , I 'm an American citizen - who gave you the right to harass the citizens of this country ?
But they wo n't answer and it seems that our so-called representative government is more concerned with preserving and improving the status quo than doing the job they were elected to do .
Sheesh ; Bush was a disaster and Obama promised to undo the extremes and provide more transparency .
Yeah , right - so Obama lied to us and is following the Bush plan .
As a citizen , I 'd like to apologize to those in other countries for the behavior of our government .
We did n't ask them to act this way and we ca n't seem to find a way to get them to stop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi, I'm an American.
One of the first families, in fact.
That said, I'd like to say that I do not approve of what's been going on over the recent past in regard to "preventing terrorist attacks.
" If the "dividing line" is the 9/11 attack on New York by those Saudi Arabian criminals then it's worth noting that there have been exactly as many attacks on American soil since then "thanks to the increased security" as there were in all the years of air travel preceding this awful day.
Unfortunately, our elected leaders don't see the insanity.
They don't see that they're doing the terrorist's job more effectively than the terrorists ever imagined.
They don't see how many airline and TSA employees are using this as an excuse to lie and steal.
They have the right to go through your baggage - but you don't have the right to keep your personal property if they want to take it.
Do they have rules and regulations to follow?
Don't ask - it's none of your business, citizen.
Do these people know how foolish they look?
No. 
I've taken every opportunity to vote for people who said they would not perpetuate this nonsense - but there doesn't seem to be any way for a simple American citizen to stop this lunacy.
I know that I do NOT want to travel on any airline these days - and if I have to, I know not to take a laptop or IPod along - or anything else that the watchers may find suspicious or desirable.
What I'd really like to tell them: Hey, I'm an American citizen - who gave you the right to harass the citizens of this country?
But they won't answer and it seems that our so-called representative government is more concerned with preserving and improving the status quo than doing the job they were elected to do.
Sheesh; Bush was a disaster and Obama promised to undo the extremes and provide more transparency.
Yeah, right - so Obama lied to us and is following the Bush plan.
As a citizen, I'd like to apologize to those in other countries for the behavior of our government.
We didn't ask them to act this way and we can't seem to find a way to get them to stop.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626970</id>
	<title>Re:What about Alaska?</title>
	<author>witherstaff</author>
	<datestamp>1262432640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>ahh, I finally understand. It's a grand conspiracy so that Palin can legitimately says he's seen Russia soil.</htmltext>
<tokenext>ahh , I finally understand .
It 's a grand conspiracy so that Palin can legitimately says he 's seen Russia soil .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ahh, I finally understand.
It's a grand conspiracy so that Palin can legitimately says he's seen Russia soil.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626122</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626484</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>vxice</author>
	<datestamp>1262429460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Personally I plan on avoiding all this appearance of security as best I can.  How many terrorists have been caught by the metal detectors?  Yes it has deterred many but not more than providing appropriate resources to investigate dangerous groups before they get to the airport.  Had money been spent on analysts and investigation that report might have been useful since someone could have checked into it.  Admittedly it was very little to go on and likely would still not have been investigated but taking his shoes off sure did not stop him.  What we really need is a foreign policy that makes sense and we start by not systematically screwing up the middle east so that our ally has no strong enemies.  It is just ridiculous to expect these detectors and random searches to stop everything because of diminishing returns the first few steps are the easiest and have the most affect but after that you catch all of the idiots and now you are trying to fight the smart ones.  And why is it within just a few days we go from saying those full body scanners are privacy invasions to asking how soon we can expect them and here is a blank check.  As for Canada banning carry on?!?! I suspect airlines have been hoping for an excuse to remove something they had been offering for free so that they can charge for it.  The money they save from not having a plane blown up by liquid explosives is much smaller than what they earn by forcing you to buy drinks in the airport.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally I plan on avoiding all this appearance of security as best I can .
How many terrorists have been caught by the metal detectors ?
Yes it has deterred many but not more than providing appropriate resources to investigate dangerous groups before they get to the airport .
Had money been spent on analysts and investigation that report might have been useful since someone could have checked into it .
Admittedly it was very little to go on and likely would still not have been investigated but taking his shoes off sure did not stop him .
What we really need is a foreign policy that makes sense and we start by not systematically screwing up the middle east so that our ally has no strong enemies .
It is just ridiculous to expect these detectors and random searches to stop everything because of diminishing returns the first few steps are the easiest and have the most affect but after that you catch all of the idiots and now you are trying to fight the smart ones .
And why is it within just a few days we go from saying those full body scanners are privacy invasions to asking how soon we can expect them and here is a blank check .
As for Canada banning carry on ? ! ? !
I suspect airlines have been hoping for an excuse to remove something they had been offering for free so that they can charge for it .
The money they save from not having a plane blown up by liquid explosives is much smaller than what they earn by forcing you to buy drinks in the airport .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally I plan on avoiding all this appearance of security as best I can.
How many terrorists have been caught by the metal detectors?
Yes it has deterred many but not more than providing appropriate resources to investigate dangerous groups before they get to the airport.
Had money been spent on analysts and investigation that report might have been useful since someone could have checked into it.
Admittedly it was very little to go on and likely would still not have been investigated but taking his shoes off sure did not stop him.
What we really need is a foreign policy that makes sense and we start by not systematically screwing up the middle east so that our ally has no strong enemies.
It is just ridiculous to expect these detectors and random searches to stop everything because of diminishing returns the first few steps are the easiest and have the most affect but after that you catch all of the idiots and now you are trying to fight the smart ones.
And why is it within just a few days we go from saying those full body scanners are privacy invasions to asking how soon we can expect them and here is a blank check.
As for Canada banning carry on?!?!
I suspect airlines have been hoping for an excuse to remove something they had been offering for free so that they can charge for it.
The money they save from not having a plane blown up by liquid explosives is much smaller than what they earn by forcing you to buy drinks in the airport.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625874</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626116</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262427180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bummer.  I had been thinking it would be nice to spend a few months there, but now Japan has been added along with the U.S. to my personal list of countries where I no longer feel like spending my tourist dollar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bummer .
I had been thinking it would be nice to spend a few months there , but now Japan has been added along with the U.S. to my personal list of countries where I no longer feel like spending my tourist dollar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bummer.
I had been thinking it would be nice to spend a few months there, but now Japan has been added along with the U.S. to my personal list of countries where I no longer feel like spending my tourist dollar.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625970</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30645364</id>
	<title>Re:I have a solution.</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1262596680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Jet Police: "Hey I see people through your windows!"<br>Air Canada "There Mannequins. Don't worry about it eh?"<br>Jet Police: "One just waved at me."<br>Air Canada "Robot Mannequins. Its for the Bay OK?"<br>Jet Police "These aren't the droids we are looking for. Move along."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jet Police : " Hey I see people through your windows !
" Air Canada " There Mannequins .
Do n't worry about it eh ?
" Jet Police : " One just waved at me .
" Air Canada " Robot Mannequins .
Its for the Bay OK ?
" Jet Police " These are n't the droids we are looking for .
Move along .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jet Police: "Hey I see people through your windows!
"Air Canada "There Mannequins.
Don't worry about it eh?
"Jet Police: "One just waved at me.
"Air Canada "Robot Mannequins.
Its for the Bay OK?
"Jet Police "These aren't the droids we are looking for.
Move along.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626346</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626532</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262429700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mandatory cavity search for all Americans!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mandatory cavity search for all Americans !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mandatory cavity search for all Americans!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625874</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625910</id>
	<title>Great circles?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262425860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Flying around US airspace between Canadian cities isn't as bad as it looks on a flat 2d projection map. They should probably just avoid any issues and stick to Canadian airspace.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Flying around US airspace between Canadian cities is n't as bad as it looks on a flat 2d projection map .
They should probably just avoid any issues and stick to Canadian airspace .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flying around US airspace between Canadian cities isn't as bad as it looks on a flat 2d projection map.
They should probably just avoid any issues and stick to Canadian airspace.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626064</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262426820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>USA used to be my favourite holiday / conference destination for 15 years. I used to also send a lot of my staff to conferences in the USA.</p><p>Have not been back to the USA and have refused to send anyone since 2002. Wherever possible I strongly discourage anyone from visiting the united states. To my pleasant suprise most people reconsider going to the states once I explain (and they do theire own research) on the insane process of passing immigration.</p><p>So yeah unfortunately i have to agree: "FUCK YOU AMERICA"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>USA used to be my favourite holiday / conference destination for 15 years .
I used to also send a lot of my staff to conferences in the USA.Have not been back to the USA and have refused to send anyone since 2002 .
Wherever possible I strongly discourage anyone from visiting the united states .
To my pleasant suprise most people reconsider going to the states once I explain ( and they do theire own research ) on the insane process of passing immigration.So yeah unfortunately i have to agree : " FUCK YOU AMERICA "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>USA used to be my favourite holiday / conference destination for 15 years.
I used to also send a lot of my staff to conferences in the USA.Have not been back to the USA and have refused to send anyone since 2002.
Wherever possible I strongly discourage anyone from visiting the united states.
To my pleasant suprise most people reconsider going to the states once I explain (and they do theire own research) on the insane process of passing immigration.So yeah unfortunately i have to agree: "FUCK YOU AMERICA"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625874</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626118</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262427240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>All countries have control of their airspace.  Some countries don't allow American military planes in their airspace, for example, which is respected.  (with the exception of countries which happen to be bomb targets).</htmltext>
<tokenext>All countries have control of their airspace .
Some countries do n't allow American military planes in their airspace , for example , which is respected .
( with the exception of countries which happen to be bomb targets ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All countries have control of their airspace.
Some countries don't allow American military planes in their airspace, for example, which is respected.
(with the exception of countries which happen to be bomb targets).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625874</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626240</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262427960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope more people from outside of the U.S. finds ways to pressure the U.S. government to behave itself.  I'm getting increasingly ashamed of my government.  It simply doesn't serve the interests of the people.  And it's not "paranoia" driving this, it is paranoia that is drummed up to gain support for this.  In reality, I don't believe the people of the U.S. support what is going on any longer... hell, most people don't have any idea what's going on.  But the first time that people of the U.S. travel to another country and find out that they are treated differently because of their government, the average people WILL learn quickly what is going on.</p><p>So please, everyone, push back and push back hard!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope more people from outside of the U.S. finds ways to pressure the U.S. government to behave itself .
I 'm getting increasingly ashamed of my government .
It simply does n't serve the interests of the people .
And it 's not " paranoia " driving this , it is paranoia that is drummed up to gain support for this .
In reality , I do n't believe the people of the U.S. support what is going on any longer... hell , most people do n't have any idea what 's going on .
But the first time that people of the U.S. travel to another country and find out that they are treated differently because of their government , the average people WILL learn quickly what is going on.So please , everyone , push back and push back hard !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope more people from outside of the U.S. finds ways to pressure the U.S. government to behave itself.
I'm getting increasingly ashamed of my government.
It simply doesn't serve the interests of the people.
And it's not "paranoia" driving this, it is paranoia that is drummed up to gain support for this.
In reality, I don't believe the people of the U.S. support what is going on any longer... hell, most people don't have any idea what's going on.
But the first time that people of the U.S. travel to another country and find out that they are treated differently because of their government, the average people WILL learn quickly what is going on.So please, everyone, push back and push back hard!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625874</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626318</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't this violate...</title>
	<author>Tellarin</author>
	<datestamp>1262428320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interesting.</p><p>But I guess they can claim that such lengths as 95+ years is limited. Like they do with copyrights...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interesting.But I guess they can claim that such lengths as 95 + years is limited .
Like they do with copyrights.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interesting.But I guess they can claim that such lengths as 95+ years is limited.
Like they do with copyrights...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626092</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626054</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>sopssa</author>
	<datestamp>1262426820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But you do not even need to enter. This applies if you're even flying over US, lets say Canada-&gt;Mexico.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But you do not even need to enter .
This applies if you 're even flying over US , lets say Canada- &gt; Mexico .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But you do not even need to enter.
This applies if you're even flying over US, lets say Canada-&gt;Mexico.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625970</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626976</id>
	<title>Change you can believe in</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262432700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It must be Bush and the Republicans' fault . . . oh wait.</p><p>I hope all those Kool Aid drinkers from last year learned a valuable lesson: Obama's the better liar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It must be Bush and the Republicans ' fault .
. .
oh wait.I hope all those Kool Aid drinkers from last year learned a valuable lesson : Obama 's the better liar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It must be Bush and the Republicans' fault .
. .
oh wait.I hope all those Kool Aid drinkers from last year learned a valuable lesson: Obama's the better liar.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30628178</id>
	<title>Easy Solution</title>
	<author>RoadkillBunny</author>
	<datestamp>1262441400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It' ok. We, Canadians, always have an easy solution when USA's laws clash with our laws. We change our laws.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It ' ok. We , Canadians , always have an easy solution when USA 's laws clash with our laws .
We change our laws .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It' ok. We, Canadians, always have an easy solution when USA's laws clash with our laws.
We change our laws.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626134</id>
	<title>Re:Huron?</title>
	<author>codegen</author>
	<datestamp>1262427300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And Lake Ontario is south of lake Huron. A lot of the flight paths from Western Canada to Toronto
cut below Superior and Huron Crossing upper Wisconsin and Upper Michigan, putting in danger from
terrorist attacks such places as Iron River, Ishpemming, Petosky, and Gaylord.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And Lake Ontario is south of lake Huron .
A lot of the flight paths from Western Canada to Toronto cut below Superior and Huron Crossing upper Wisconsin and Upper Michigan , putting in danger from terrorist attacks such places as Iron River , Ishpemming , Petosky , and Gaylord .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And Lake Ontario is south of lake Huron.
A lot of the flight paths from Western Canada to Toronto
cut below Superior and Huron Crossing upper Wisconsin and Upper Michigan, putting in danger from
terrorist attacks such places as Iron River, Ishpemming, Petosky, and Gaylord.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626066</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30627872</id>
	<title>Aha</title>
	<author>Daimanta</author>
	<datestamp>1262438820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So Canada faces a privacy dilemma.</p><p>The solution:</p><p>No privacy.</p><p>No privacy, no dilemma.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So Canada faces a privacy dilemma.The solution : No privacy.No privacy , no dilemma .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Canada faces a privacy dilemma.The solution:No privacy.No privacy, no dilemma.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30630748</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262518500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I think we can live with out euro-trash.</p></div><p>Sure, dude. Enjoy your McDonalds, Budweiser, Amtrak, NASCAR, and Creation Museum over there!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think we can live with out euro-trash.Sure , dude .
Enjoy your McDonalds , Budweiser , Amtrak , NASCAR , and Creation Museum over there !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think we can live with out euro-trash.Sure, dude.
Enjoy your McDonalds, Budweiser, Amtrak, NASCAR, and Creation Museum over there!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626594</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626334</id>
	<title>Fine with me but...</title>
	<author>Pederson</author>
	<datestamp>1262428440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's fine with me. I simply do not travel to the USA. However, if they are to poke and prod us, I say we do the same to them. Then we just allow the Americans to complain and things will be better.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's fine with me .
I simply do not travel to the USA .
However , if they are to poke and prod us , I say we do the same to them .
Then we just allow the Americans to complain and things will be better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's fine with me.
I simply do not travel to the USA.
However, if they are to poke and prod us, I say we do the same to them.
Then we just allow the Americans to complain and things will be better.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626170</id>
	<title>I'm beginning to see the terrorist's point</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262427540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That means they're winning, doesn't it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That means they 're winning , does n't it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That means they're winning, doesn't it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626424</id>
	<title>Re:US bullying and demanding other countries..</title>
	<author>furball</author>
	<datestamp>1262429040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I once stared into the abyss. Then the abyss stared right back at me. We started making out. I got to third base before we stopped. The abyss told me it wasn't <em>that</em> kind of abyss.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I once stared into the abyss .
Then the abyss stared right back at me .
We started making out .
I got to third base before we stopped .
The abyss told me it was n't that kind of abyss .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I once stared into the abyss.
Then the abyss stared right back at me.
We started making out.
I got to third base before we stopped.
The abyss told me it wasn't that kind of abyss.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625984</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30631128</id>
	<title>This is getting a bit stupid now</title>
	<author>Peter Nikolic</author>
	<datestamp>1262526660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is getting stupid now when is america going to get the message they are just ONE of the nations on this planet  Maybe if they were not quite so BOLSHY then others would treat them a little kinder and they would not have to be so CHILDISH about someone over flying there very sorry patch of mud .</p><p>The world has an innane right to carry on regardless of the whims of a very insecure patch of mud  You are NOT the rulers of the planet you never WILL be the rulers of the planet get this into your stupid thick sad heads , You have an over important image of yourselfs over there you ARE no different to any other nation on the planet in fact you ARE untimatley responsible for the present ecconomic situation the world is in it was YOUR stupid ideas and methods that screwed everything for everyone else so get off your high horses and get your asses in the mud remember you ARE no different NO better than the rest of us in fact a lot of your companies over there are blatant theives of other peoples property you lay claims to stuff you have NO rights to at all</p><p>I have no religeous links i think ALL religeon is a load of bollocks used by a minority to attempt to control the majority (this sounds like the correct identification of the USA)</p><p>Karma Terrible   Guess what i love it because at least i got the balls to tell jerks like the USA to go fuck them selfs backwards forwards and sideways at the same time you are all nothings</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is getting stupid now when is america going to get the message they are just ONE of the nations on this planet Maybe if they were not quite so BOLSHY then others would treat them a little kinder and they would not have to be so CHILDISH about someone over flying there very sorry patch of mud .The world has an innane right to carry on regardless of the whims of a very insecure patch of mud You are NOT the rulers of the planet you never WILL be the rulers of the planet get this into your stupid thick sad heads , You have an over important image of yourselfs over there you ARE no different to any other nation on the planet in fact you ARE untimatley responsible for the present ecconomic situation the world is in it was YOUR stupid ideas and methods that screwed everything for everyone else so get off your high horses and get your asses in the mud remember you ARE no different NO better than the rest of us in fact a lot of your companies over there are blatant theives of other peoples property you lay claims to stuff you have NO rights to at allI have no religeous links i think ALL religeon is a load of bollocks used by a minority to attempt to control the majority ( this sounds like the correct identification of the USA ) Karma Terrible Guess what i love it because at least i got the balls to tell jerks like the USA to go fuck them selfs backwards forwards and sideways at the same time you are all nothings</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is getting stupid now when is america going to get the message they are just ONE of the nations on this planet  Maybe if they were not quite so BOLSHY then others would treat them a little kinder and they would not have to be so CHILDISH about someone over flying there very sorry patch of mud .The world has an innane right to carry on regardless of the whims of a very insecure patch of mud  You are NOT the rulers of the planet you never WILL be the rulers of the planet get this into your stupid thick sad heads , You have an over important image of yourselfs over there you ARE no different to any other nation on the planet in fact you ARE untimatley responsible for the present ecconomic situation the world is in it was YOUR stupid ideas and methods that screwed everything for everyone else so get off your high horses and get your asses in the mud remember you ARE no different NO better than the rest of us in fact a lot of your companies over there are blatant theives of other peoples property you lay claims to stuff you have NO rights to at allI have no religeous links i think ALL religeon is a load of bollocks used by a minority to attempt to control the majority (this sounds like the correct identification of the USA)Karma Terrible   Guess what i love it because at least i got the balls to tell jerks like the USA to go fuck them selfs backwards forwards and sideways at the same time you are all nothings</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30629338</id>
	<title>Re:Missing something here?</title>
	<author>ImOnlySleeping</author>
	<datestamp>1262454540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>you missed international treaties forbidding this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>you missed international treaties forbidding this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you missed international treaties forbidding this.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30628124</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626400</id>
	<title>Trust the TSA</title>
	<author>An dochasac</author>
	<datestamp>1262428920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Trust the T.S.A. They're Federalized [TM] which is howcome they're so smart.  I mean they might have missed the underpants bomber who wasn't on the no fly list that the late Senator Ted Kennedy was on, but they nearly nabbed <a href="http://storymash.com/u/an\_dochasach/mevibapu/" title="storymash.com">this guy.</a> [storymash.com]  Now move along nothing to see here.  We must protect ourselves from Polish^H^H^H Oceana^H^H^H Canadian agression.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Trust the T.S.A .
They 're Federalized [ TM ] which is howcome they 're so smart .
I mean they might have missed the underpants bomber who was n't on the no fly list that the late Senator Ted Kennedy was on , but they nearly nabbed this guy .
[ storymash.com ] Now move along nothing to see here .
We must protect ourselves from Polish ^ H ^ H ^ H Oceana ^ H ^ H ^ H Canadian agression .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Trust the T.S.A.
They're Federalized [TM] which is howcome they're so smart.
I mean they might have missed the underpants bomber who wasn't on the no fly list that the late Senator Ted Kennedy was on, but they nearly nabbed this guy.
[storymash.com]  Now move along nothing to see here.
We must protect ourselves from Polish^H^H^H Oceana^H^H^H Canadian agression.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30629278</id>
	<title>Re:Just say NO</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262453460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do as we say not as we say eh?<br>I guess you can stuff your noise at American bullshit while gorging on Canadian bullshit.<br>http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1495766&amp;cid=30626504</p><p>and hes the one burning karma.</p><p>Seems you should be more worried Canadian nationalistic zealots but then again I'm guessing you are one of them.</p><p>Thankfully I'm neither Canadian or American.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do as we say not as we say eh ? I guess you can stuff your noise at American bullshit while gorging on Canadian bullshit.http : //yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl ? sid = 1495766&amp;cid = 30626504and hes the one burning karma.Seems you should be more worried Canadian nationalistic zealots but then again I 'm guessing you are one of them.Thankfully I 'm neither Canadian or American .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do as we say not as we say eh?I guess you can stuff your noise at American bullshit while gorging on Canadian bullshit.http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1495766&amp;cid=30626504and hes the one burning karma.Seems you should be more worried Canadian nationalistic zealots but then again I'm guessing you are one of them.Thankfully I'm neither Canadian or American.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626836</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626324</id>
	<title>Re:Just ignore them...</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1262428380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just see if we offer you statehood with an attitude like that!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just see if we offer you statehood with an attitude like that !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just see if we offer you statehood with an attitude like that!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625968</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30627084</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't this violate...</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1262433300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>US violates agreements with Canada when it suits them. So long as it isn't politically sensitive amongst Americans. Softwood lumber, cattle.<br> <br>And they have an even longer history of pushing Canada to do what it wants. Re. pretty much all current Canadian border stupidity, requested by the US gov. Pot/drug laws. Cattle practices which led to mad cow in the first place ~\_~.<br> <br>Note, I'm not fully blaming the US, Canadian gov needs to stand up to the US more. ATM we have a conservative minority government. And they might as well be the we love America party, and want to be their subservient bitches.</htmltext>
<tokenext>US violates agreements with Canada when it suits them .
So long as it is n't politically sensitive amongst Americans .
Softwood lumber , cattle .
And they have an even longer history of pushing Canada to do what it wants .
Re. pretty much all current Canadian border stupidity , requested by the US gov .
Pot/drug laws .
Cattle practices which led to mad cow in the first place ~ \ _ ~ .
Note , I 'm not fully blaming the US , Canadian gov needs to stand up to the US more .
ATM we have a conservative minority government .
And they might as well be the we love America party , and want to be their subservient bitches .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>US violates agreements with Canada when it suits them.
So long as it isn't politically sensitive amongst Americans.
Softwood lumber, cattle.
And they have an even longer history of pushing Canada to do what it wants.
Re. pretty much all current Canadian border stupidity, requested by the US gov.
Pot/drug laws.
Cattle practices which led to mad cow in the first place ~\_~.
Note, I'm not fully blaming the US, Canadian gov needs to stand up to the US more.
ATM we have a conservative minority government.
And they might as well be the we love America party, and want to be their subservient bitches.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626092</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626504</id>
	<title>Ah yes, of course the whiners are out now......</title>
	<author>i\_want\_you\_to\_throw\_</author>
	<datestamp>1262429520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Canada started using U.S. <a href="http://www.startribune.com/local/12927556.html" title="startribune.com">data a couple of years ago</a> [startribune.com]. Sadly Canada this is the downside of our arrangement with you. You don't get just the good part of this arrangement.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Canada started using U.S. data a couple of years ago [ startribune.com ] .
Sadly Canada this is the downside of our arrangement with you .
You do n't get just the good part of this arrangement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Canada started using U.S. data a couple of years ago [startribune.com].
Sadly Canada this is the downside of our arrangement with you.
You don't get just the good part of this arrangement.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30627608</id>
	<title>USA is off my list</title>
	<author>anethema</author>
	<datestamp>1262436780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have gone through every measure possible to avoid ever landing in the USA again on an airplane. I travel to Mexico or Costa Rica yearly on vacation, and usually take 1-2 vacations in the summer as well, and thanks to the lovely TSA and border agents, the USA has been semi-permenantly crossed off my tourism list. (semi because if they let up again I would consider going back. It isn't a grudge thing, just do not want to be harassed.)<br><br>All my flights I pay extra if necessary to bypass the USA all together, not landing in their airports even for stopovers. This has become standard operating proceedure for pretty much anyone I've spoken to who vacations regularly.<br><br>The USA is going to be facing some pretty heavy dollars lost in tourism from Canadian, European, Asian, etc tourists if no one is willing to fly into the country.<br><br>The TSA really needs to clean up it's act, even though I feel for them, since I'm sure there would be outcry as well were they to go 'soft on terror!'</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have gone through every measure possible to avoid ever landing in the USA again on an airplane .
I travel to Mexico or Costa Rica yearly on vacation , and usually take 1-2 vacations in the summer as well , and thanks to the lovely TSA and border agents , the USA has been semi-permenantly crossed off my tourism list .
( semi because if they let up again I would consider going back .
It is n't a grudge thing , just do not want to be harassed .
) All my flights I pay extra if necessary to bypass the USA all together , not landing in their airports even for stopovers .
This has become standard operating proceedure for pretty much anyone I 've spoken to who vacations regularly.The USA is going to be facing some pretty heavy dollars lost in tourism from Canadian , European , Asian , etc tourists if no one is willing to fly into the country.The TSA really needs to clean up it 's act , even though I feel for them , since I 'm sure there would be outcry as well were they to go 'soft on terror !
'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have gone through every measure possible to avoid ever landing in the USA again on an airplane.
I travel to Mexico or Costa Rica yearly on vacation, and usually take 1-2 vacations in the summer as well, and thanks to the lovely TSA and border agents, the USA has been semi-permenantly crossed off my tourism list.
(semi because if they let up again I would consider going back.
It isn't a grudge thing, just do not want to be harassed.
)All my flights I pay extra if necessary to bypass the USA all together, not landing in their airports even for stopovers.
This has become standard operating proceedure for pretty much anyone I've spoken to who vacations regularly.The USA is going to be facing some pretty heavy dollars lost in tourism from Canadian, European, Asian, etc tourists if no one is willing to fly into the country.The TSA really needs to clean up it's act, even though I feel for them, since I'm sure there would be outcry as well were they to go 'soft on terror!
'</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30629104</id>
	<title>Tell US to F*** off</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262451480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There have to be 10x to 100x more USA domestic flights that enter Canadian airspace than the other way around.  I hope Canada tells us to F*** off on this one.  Which would hurt more, USA telling Canada that Canadian domestic flights can't overfly USA, or the other way around?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There have to be 10x to 100x more USA domestic flights that enter Canadian airspace than the other way around .
I hope Canada tells us to F * * * off on this one .
Which would hurt more , USA telling Canada that Canadian domestic flights ca n't overfly USA , or the other way around ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There have to be 10x to 100x more USA domestic flights that enter Canadian airspace than the other way around.
I hope Canada tells us to F*** off on this one.
Which would hurt more, USA telling Canada that Canadian domestic flights can't overfly USA, or the other way around?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30631884</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Lisandro</author>
	<datestamp>1262536500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Isn't Brazil doing this already?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't Brazil doing this already ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't Brazil doing this already?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625874</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626666</id>
	<title>How is this different then the Mac and Windows...</title>
	<author>AnAdventurer</author>
	<datestamp>1262430480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>....Mac and Windows argument? There are no virus for Mac's. There are no terrorists trying to blow up Canadians (relatively).
<p>
Safety through obscurity is not the same as being safe. </p><p>

Not that I have a stand on the issue, I personally think the TSA is one of the "less" effective agencies on the "war on terror";  I worked for DHS training TSA screeners about how to "X", I quit 6 months in. It was like trying to teach Shakespeare (as written) to ESL students from Asia (which I have also seen attempted).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>....Mac and Windows argument ?
There are no virus for Mac 's .
There are no terrorists trying to blow up Canadians ( relatively ) .
Safety through obscurity is not the same as being safe .
Not that I have a stand on the issue , I personally think the TSA is one of the " less " effective agencies on the " war on terror " ; I worked for DHS training TSA screeners about how to " X " , I quit 6 months in .
It was like trying to teach Shakespeare ( as written ) to ESL students from Asia ( which I have also seen attempted ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>....Mac and Windows argument?
There are no virus for Mac's.
There are no terrorists trying to blow up Canadians (relatively).
Safety through obscurity is not the same as being safe.
Not that I have a stand on the issue, I personally think the TSA is one of the "less" effective agencies on the "war on terror";  I worked for DHS training TSA screeners about how to "X", I quit 6 months in.
It was like trying to teach Shakespeare (as written) to ESL students from Asia (which I have also seen attempted).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30635804</id>
	<title>Good luck with registring my meal preferences.</title>
	<author>elgaard</author>
	<datestamp>1262524500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I go to Canada in a week.<br>I plan to request Hindi meals. Maybe kosher og halal on the return flight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I go to Canada in a week.I plan to request Hindi meals .
Maybe kosher og halal on the return flight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I go to Canada in a week.I plan to request Hindi meals.
Maybe kosher og halal on the return flight.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30638486</id>
	<title>Stoned TSA Goon Causes Panic at Newark LIA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262597100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Headline should read, "TSA Fucks-Up Again!"</p><p>This time a TSA Guard at Concourse C at Newark LIA suffered hallucinations of a "man" walking through the secure lane in the opposite direction.  Video shows nothing<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... nothing at all.</p><p>Next, TSA goons stopped all in-bound and out-bound flights, forced offloading, and rounded up everyone else in the terminal to re-screen everyone!</p><p>The next time shit like this happens, 3000 pissed-off people are going to beat the crap out of 30 TSA ass-whipe stoners.</p><p>http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/01/04/new.jersey.airport.breach/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Headline should read , " TSA Fucks-Up Again !
" This time a TSA Guard at Concourse C at Newark LIA suffered hallucinations of a " man " walking through the secure lane in the opposite direction .
Video shows nothing ... nothing at all.Next , TSA goons stopped all in-bound and out-bound flights , forced offloading , and rounded up everyone else in the terminal to re-screen everyone ! The next time shit like this happens , 3000 pissed-off people are going to beat the crap out of 30 TSA ass-whipe stoners.http : //edition.cnn.com/2010/US/01/04/new.jersey.airport.breach/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Headline should read, "TSA Fucks-Up Again!
"This time a TSA Guard at Concourse C at Newark LIA suffered hallucinations of a "man" walking through the secure lane in the opposite direction.
Video shows nothing ... nothing at all.Next, TSA goons stopped all in-bound and out-bound flights, forced offloading, and rounded up everyone else in the terminal to re-screen everyone!The next time shit like this happens, 3000 pissed-off people are going to beat the crap out of 30 TSA ass-whipe stoners.http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/01/04/new.jersey.airport.breach/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626226</id>
	<title>Toronto</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262427900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ask any Chinese person in the USA how they got to the US, and they will say thru-Toronto.</p><p>Ask any Celebrity how they managed to visit Cuba, they will say thru-Toronto.&gt; </p><p>Watching Toronto Airports seems prudent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ask any Chinese person in the USA how they got to the US , and they will say thru-Toronto.Ask any Celebrity how they managed to visit Cuba , they will say thru-Toronto. &gt; Watching Toronto Airports seems prudent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ask any Chinese person in the USA how they got to the US, and they will say thru-Toronto.Ask any Celebrity how they managed to visit Cuba, they will say thru-Toronto.&gt; Watching Toronto Airports seems prudent.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30634866</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't this violate...</title>
	<author>Tolkien</author>
	<datestamp>1262517960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Assuming you're right (didn't check the link) it wouldn't surprise me if Canada caves in rather than pointing out the obvious anyway. I found out about a book called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions\_of\_an\_Economic\_Hit\_Man" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Confessions of an Economic Hit Man</a> [wikipedia.org] during the holidays and read a few brief excerpts, it was a rather enlightening read (including a behind-the scenes look on a few events in world history that we all know about, including 9/11 and Bush (re: Oil).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Assuming you 're right ( did n't check the link ) it would n't surprise me if Canada caves in rather than pointing out the obvious anyway .
I found out about a book called Confessions of an Economic Hit Man [ wikipedia.org ] during the holidays and read a few brief excerpts , it was a rather enlightening read ( including a behind-the scenes look on a few events in world history that we all know about , including 9/11 and Bush ( re : Oil ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Assuming you're right (didn't check the link) it wouldn't surprise me if Canada caves in rather than pointing out the obvious anyway.
I found out about a book called Confessions of an Economic Hit Man [wikipedia.org] during the holidays and read a few brief excerpts, it was a rather enlightening read (including a behind-the scenes look on a few events in world history that we all know about, including 9/11 and Bush (re: Oil).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626092</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626062</id>
	<title>Grow a pair</title>
	<author>Bredero</author>
	<datestamp>1262426820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>and tell em to piss off</htmltext>
<tokenext>and tell em to piss off</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and tell em to piss off</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30628278</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262442360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>But that's completely irrelevant, because bashing USA is hip and cool and everyone and their mother likes Japan...</htmltext>
<tokenext>But that 's completely irrelevant , because bashing USA is hip and cool and everyone and their mother likes Japan.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But that's completely irrelevant, because bashing USA is hip and cool and everyone and their mother likes Japan...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625970</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625984</id>
	<title>Re:US bullying and demanding other countries..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262426280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't that exactly what we used to criticize the Soviet Union for doing? We stared into the abyss all right, but the abyss stared right back into us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't that exactly what we used to criticize the Soviet Union for doing ?
We stared into the abyss all right , but the abyss stared right back into us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't that exactly what we used to criticize the Soviet Union for doing?
We stared into the abyss all right, but the abyss stared right back into us.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625840</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30628008</id>
	<title>Would be nice but won't happen</title>
	<author>yabos</author>
	<datestamp>1262439900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Canada would never deny all US Carrier flights into Canadian airspace purely on economic reasons.  Pearson International Airport in Toronto has one of the highest landing fees in the world, second to Japan's Tokyo Narita in 2004.  Pearson would go bazerk if US carriers couldn't land there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Canada would never deny all US Carrier flights into Canadian airspace purely on economic reasons .
Pearson International Airport in Toronto has one of the highest landing fees in the world , second to Japan 's Tokyo Narita in 2004 .
Pearson would go bazerk if US carriers could n't land there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Canada would never deny all US Carrier flights into Canadian airspace purely on economic reasons.
Pearson International Airport in Toronto has one of the highest landing fees in the world, second to Japan's Tokyo Narita in 2004.
Pearson would go bazerk if US carriers couldn't land there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626036</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30627920</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't this violate...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262439240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not a US citizen but I thought there was a constitutional amendment that required the government, both federal and state, to bend over backwards for international treaties?</p><p>Yeah, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article\_Six\_of\_the\_United\_States\_Constitution" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Article Six</a> [wikipedia.org]. Though it looks like the Supreme Court screwed it up pretty good.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not a US citizen but I thought there was a constitutional amendment that required the government , both federal and state , to bend over backwards for international treaties ? Yeah , Article Six [ wikipedia.org ] .
Though it looks like the Supreme Court screwed it up pretty good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not a US citizen but I thought there was a constitutional amendment that required the government, both federal and state, to bend over backwards for international treaties?Yeah, Article Six [wikipedia.org].
Though it looks like the Supreme Court screwed it up pretty good.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626244</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626156</id>
	<title>Re:US bullying and demanding other countries..</title>
	<author>gbutler69</author>
	<datestamp>1262427420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, no other country other than the U.S. enforces their own laws within their borders. RTFA!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , no other country other than the U.S. enforces their own laws within their borders .
RTFA !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, no other country other than the U.S. enforces their own laws within their borders.
RTFA!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625840</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30630414</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262512140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Having just flow to Japan, the day before the pant's bomber decided to make flying even more fun, I was photographed and finger printed at customs, intrusive...maybe.  However, afterwards I had to go through security for the third time that day and what I didn't have to do, like the previous two times, was take my shoes off.  So which security measure do you think is more effective...pictures and finger prints to record my identity....or asking me to remove my shoes?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having just flow to Japan , the day before the pant 's bomber decided to make flying even more fun , I was photographed and finger printed at customs , intrusive...maybe .
However , afterwards I had to go through security for the third time that day and what I did n't have to do , like the previous two times , was take my shoes off .
So which security measure do you think is more effective...pictures and finger prints to record my identity....or asking me to remove my shoes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having just flow to Japan, the day before the pant's bomber decided to make flying even more fun, I was photographed and finger printed at customs, intrusive...maybe.
However, afterwards I had to go through security for the third time that day and what I didn't have to do, like the previous two times, was take my shoes off.
So which security measure do you think is more effective...pictures and finger prints to record my identity....or asking me to remove my shoes?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625970</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625964</id>
	<title>paranoid freaks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262426160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>every stinking time i have to deal with the asshats that are the tsa i play paranoid freaks by the trews. it's so fitting.</p><p>what happened to innocent until proven guilty? like another coward says, your country no longer interests me. and to think at one time i would have given up my canadian citizenship to live in the states.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>every stinking time i have to deal with the asshats that are the tsa i play paranoid freaks by the trews .
it 's so fitting.what happened to innocent until proven guilty ?
like another coward says , your country no longer interests me .
and to think at one time i would have given up my canadian citizenship to live in the states .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>every stinking time i have to deal with the asshats that are the tsa i play paranoid freaks by the trews.
it's so fitting.what happened to innocent until proven guilty?
like another coward says, your country no longer interests me.
and to think at one time i would have given up my canadian citizenship to live in the states.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30628824</id>
	<title>Canada is not exactly an open arms place either...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262448600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A person with a DUI is not allowed into Canada unless you get a waver.  Yeah DUIs are not good things but to be denied access to a country based on that fact?</p><p>The US needs to fix a lot of things but Canada is not perfect either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A person with a DUI is not allowed into Canada unless you get a waver .
Yeah DUIs are not good things but to be denied access to a country based on that fact ? The US needs to fix a lot of things but Canada is not perfect either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A person with a DUI is not allowed into Canada unless you get a waver.
Yeah DUIs are not good things but to be denied access to a country based on that fact?The US needs to fix a lot of things but Canada is not perfect either.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30628034</id>
	<title>Re:Fork it over, and it changes... nothing.</title>
	<author>Magic5Ball</author>
	<datestamp>1262440080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But "Year of qeylIS 786" won't fit in the standard ICAO DOB field...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But " Year of qeylIS 786 " wo n't fit in the standard ICAO DOB field.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But "Year of qeylIS 786" won't fit in the standard ICAO DOB field...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626452</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626422</id>
	<title>What privacy?</title>
	<author>rastos1</author>
	<datestamp>1262429040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My country has a bill that puts limits on handling of my personal data. It was passed because the EU demands that. But it also demands that my bank <a href="/story/09/11/27/150234/EU-About-To-Grant-US-Unlimited-Access-To-Banking-Data" title="slashdot.org">passes info about my money transactions to USA</a> [slashdot.org]. It would be pretty difficult to live without bank account and legally impossible to run a business without bank account. My privacy is screwed and I can't even vote to change that - short of convincing EU to challenge US.
</p><p>
We had stories about US <a href="/article.pl?sid=05/01/19/233216" title="slashdot.org">demanding</a> [slashdot.org]<a href="/article.pl?sid=09/09/07/234251" title="slashdot.org">data</a> [slashdot.org] about air travelers <a href="/article.pl?sid=09/01/06/2238228" title="slashdot.org">before</a> [slashdot.org]. Well, you don't have to travel by air. You can use cash and not wire transfers. You can live without internet if you don't want ISP to log who/when you talk to. You can have your privacy - if you live back in the woods. Thanks God, the war on terrorism works so well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My country has a bill that puts limits on handling of my personal data .
It was passed because the EU demands that .
But it also demands that my bank passes info about my money transactions to USA [ slashdot.org ] .
It would be pretty difficult to live without bank account and legally impossible to run a business without bank account .
My privacy is screwed and I ca n't even vote to change that - short of convincing EU to challenge US .
We had stories about US demanding [ slashdot.org ] data [ slashdot.org ] about air travelers before [ slashdot.org ] .
Well , you do n't have to travel by air .
You can use cash and not wire transfers .
You can live without internet if you do n't want ISP to log who/when you talk to .
You can have your privacy - if you live back in the woods .
Thanks God , the war on terrorism works so well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My country has a bill that puts limits on handling of my personal data.
It was passed because the EU demands that.
But it also demands that my bank passes info about my money transactions to USA [slashdot.org].
It would be pretty difficult to live without bank account and legally impossible to run a business without bank account.
My privacy is screwed and I can't even vote to change that - short of convincing EU to challenge US.
We had stories about US demanding [slashdot.org]data [slashdot.org] about air travelers before [slashdot.org].
Well, you don't have to travel by air.
You can use cash and not wire transfers.
You can live without internet if you don't want ISP to log who/when you talk to.
You can have your privacy - if you live back in the woods.
Thanks God, the war on terrorism works so well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626346</id>
	<title>I have a solution.</title>
	<author>Xeno man</author>
	<datestamp>1262428500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think I have a solution. We as Canadians should just reclassify all flights over American air space as Cargo Flights. No passengers to report. It's not like the plane is going to land in the States or they are going to pull over an aircraft for an inspection. Of course in an emergency situation where one does need to land in the states, it will be an unfortunate clerical error that lead the incorrect information to be given to the US.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think I have a solution .
We as Canadians should just reclassify all flights over American air space as Cargo Flights .
No passengers to report .
It 's not like the plane is going to land in the States or they are going to pull over an aircraft for an inspection .
Of course in an emergency situation where one does need to land in the states , it will be an unfortunate clerical error that lead the incorrect information to be given to the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think I have a solution.
We as Canadians should just reclassify all flights over American air space as Cargo Flights.
No passengers to report.
It's not like the plane is going to land in the States or they are going to pull over an aircraft for an inspection.
Of course in an emergency situation where one does need to land in the states, it will be an unfortunate clerical error that lead the incorrect information to be given to the US.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626526</id>
	<title>Please Photograph and Fingerprint This Suspect !</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262429640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.whitehouse.org/" title="whitehouse.org" rel="nofollow">Number One Suspect</a> [whitehouse.org].</p><p>Have A New Year.</p><p>Yours In Ashgabat,<br>K. Trout</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Number One Suspect [ whitehouse.org ] .Have A New Year.Yours In Ashgabat,K .
Trout</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Number One Suspect [whitehouse.org].Have A New Year.Yours In Ashgabat,K.
Trout</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30628150</id>
	<title>First Freedom of the Air?</title>
	<author>digitig</author>
	<datestamp>1262441100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Doesn't this violate the Chicago Convention? Of course, the USA never liked the Chicago Convention -- they wanted each pair of countries to negotiate overflight rules individually, so lots of countries making tit-for-tat retalliations leading to the collapse of the Chicago Convention might be just what the USA is playing for.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't this violate the Chicago Convention ?
Of course , the USA never liked the Chicago Convention -- they wanted each pair of countries to negotiate overflight rules individually , so lots of countries making tit-for-tat retalliations leading to the collapse of the Chicago Convention might be just what the USA is playing for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't this violate the Chicago Convention?
Of course, the USA never liked the Chicago Convention -- they wanted each pair of countries to negotiate overflight rules individually, so lots of countries making tit-for-tat retalliations leading to the collapse of the Chicago Convention might be just what the USA is playing for.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30628836</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262448720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Those countries don't charge Americans more to cover any difference in procedural costs. They charge Americans more because Americans are able and willing to pay.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Those countries do n't charge Americans more to cover any difference in procedural costs .
They charge Americans more because Americans are able and willing to pay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those countries don't charge Americans more to cover any difference in procedural costs.
They charge Americans more because Americans are able and willing to pay.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626250</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30626294</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck you America ...</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1262428260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"So I say ever other country starts finger-printing and frisking Americans just as a matter of policy."</p><p>Go ahead. I'd be fine with that. Run background checks too. Lock down all borders and protect exclusive access.</p><p>I don't fly anywhere I'm not welcome, I'm not interested in becoming an illegal immigrant, I'm not a terrorist, and I'm fine with the deterrent model for containing international flow of people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" So I say ever other country starts finger-printing and frisking Americans just as a matter of policy .
" Go ahead .
I 'd be fine with that .
Run background checks too .
Lock down all borders and protect exclusive access.I do n't fly anywhere I 'm not welcome , I 'm not interested in becoming an illegal immigrant , I 'm not a terrorist , and I 'm fine with the deterrent model for containing international flow of people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"So I say ever other country starts finger-printing and frisking Americans just as a matter of policy.
"Go ahead.
I'd be fine with that.
Run background checks too.
Lock down all borders and protect exclusive access.I don't fly anywhere I'm not welcome, I'm not interested in becoming an illegal immigrant, I'm not a terrorist, and I'm fine with the deterrent model for containing international flow of people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_02_2029250.30625874</parent>
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