<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_23_2228258</id>
	<title>Girl Gamers More Hardcore Than Guys</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1261568520000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>TheClockworkSoul writes <i>"Scientific American reports on a study published this month in the <em>Journal of Communication</em>, which found that women who engage in a role-playing game online actually <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=gal-gamers-geekier-than-guys-09-12-23">commit more time on average than the male players do</a>. The authors <a href="http://dmitriwilliams.com/LFGpaperfinal.pdf">surveyed 7,000 players logged in to <em>EverQuest II</em></a> (PDF), and found that the average age of the gamers surveyed was 31, and that playing time tended to increase with age. Interestingly, however, the female gamers not only tended to log more time online (29 hours per week versus 25 for the males), but were also more likely to lie about how much they really play."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>TheClockworkSoul writes " Scientific American reports on a study published this month in the Journal of Communication , which found that women who engage in a role-playing game online actually commit more time on average than the male players do .
The authors surveyed 7,000 players logged in to EverQuest II ( PDF ) , and found that the average age of the gamers surveyed was 31 , and that playing time tended to increase with age .
Interestingly , however , the female gamers not only tended to log more time online ( 29 hours per week versus 25 for the males ) , but were also more likely to lie about how much they really play .
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<sentencetext>TheClockworkSoul writes "Scientific American reports on a study published this month in the Journal of Communication, which found that women who engage in a role-playing game online actually commit more time on average than the male players do.
The authors surveyed 7,000 players logged in to EverQuest II (PDF), and found that the average age of the gamers surveyed was 31, and that playing time tended to increase with age.
Interestingly, however, the female gamers not only tended to log more time online (29 hours per week versus 25 for the males), but were also more likely to lie about how much they really play.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30543774</id>
	<title>Re:I can't take girl gamers seriously</title>
	<author>FileNotFound</author>
	<datestamp>1261669380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Man you sure sound like a sexist douche. Not getting much? Ever?</p><p>Actually quite a few girl gamers that I've played with over the past decade did not make it a point to mention their gender. Two girls that I regularly played FPS with concealed their gender - which nowdays is pretty much impossible due to voice coms. For one this meant that she stopped playing multiplayer games all together due to the crap she had to deal with when guys knew that she was a girl. It didn't help that she had a very attractive voice. She'd get on Vent, say "Hi" and whatever every guy in the channel was talking about would instantly be forgotten and all attention was instantly turned to her. Guess what - many girls do not like that kind of attention. She didn't like the several private messages she'd get every time she logged in, she didn't like the fact that one of the guys kept sending her loot, she sent it back and he just resent with a "Please keep it, it's for you," like that makes it better.</p><p>Truth is most girl gamers are NOT interested in your attention. No really. They don't care about you. They are not interested in you and never will be. They are not looking for a relationship online and are not considering grouping with you the equivalent of a date and giving you loot is not a present.</p><p>Are there girls who love to point out that they are in fact girls? Sure - and they do it for loot. There are so many idiotic guys who somehow assume that every girl online wants their dick that it's downright sad. I've seen guys get scammed by girl in WoW and in EVE - as in to the point of buying gold/isk online in order to buy loot for the girls. It was pathetic.</p><p>But girls who play for attention are not the majority at all. There are plenty of girl attention whores, just like there are plenty of guy attention whores. It just so happens that being a girl in a game gets you a LOT of attention - and that's hardly the girls fault.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Man you sure sound like a sexist douche .
Not getting much ?
Ever ? Actually quite a few girl gamers that I 've played with over the past decade did not make it a point to mention their gender .
Two girls that I regularly played FPS with concealed their gender - which nowdays is pretty much impossible due to voice coms .
For one this meant that she stopped playing multiplayer games all together due to the crap she had to deal with when guys knew that she was a girl .
It did n't help that she had a very attractive voice .
She 'd get on Vent , say " Hi " and whatever every guy in the channel was talking about would instantly be forgotten and all attention was instantly turned to her .
Guess what - many girls do not like that kind of attention .
She did n't like the several private messages she 'd get every time she logged in , she did n't like the fact that one of the guys kept sending her loot , she sent it back and he just resent with a " Please keep it , it 's for you , " like that makes it better.Truth is most girl gamers are NOT interested in your attention .
No really .
They do n't care about you .
They are not interested in you and never will be .
They are not looking for a relationship online and are not considering grouping with you the equivalent of a date and giving you loot is not a present.Are there girls who love to point out that they are in fact girls ?
Sure - and they do it for loot .
There are so many idiotic guys who somehow assume that every girl online wants their dick that it 's downright sad .
I 've seen guys get scammed by girl in WoW and in EVE - as in to the point of buying gold/isk online in order to buy loot for the girls .
It was pathetic.But girls who play for attention are not the majority at all .
There are plenty of girl attention whores , just like there are plenty of guy attention whores .
It just so happens that being a girl in a game gets you a LOT of attention - and that 's hardly the girls fault .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Man you sure sound like a sexist douche.
Not getting much?
Ever?Actually quite a few girl gamers that I've played with over the past decade did not make it a point to mention their gender.
Two girls that I regularly played FPS with concealed their gender - which nowdays is pretty much impossible due to voice coms.
For one this meant that she stopped playing multiplayer games all together due to the crap she had to deal with when guys knew that she was a girl.
It didn't help that she had a very attractive voice.
She'd get on Vent, say "Hi" and whatever every guy in the channel was talking about would instantly be forgotten and all attention was instantly turned to her.
Guess what - many girls do not like that kind of attention.
She didn't like the several private messages she'd get every time she logged in, she didn't like the fact that one of the guys kept sending her loot, she sent it back and he just resent with a "Please keep it, it's for you," like that makes it better.Truth is most girl gamers are NOT interested in your attention.
No really.
They don't care about you.
They are not interested in you and never will be.
They are not looking for a relationship online and are not considering grouping with you the equivalent of a date and giving you loot is not a present.Are there girls who love to point out that they are in fact girls?
Sure - and they do it for loot.
There are so many idiotic guys who somehow assume that every girl online wants their dick that it's downright sad.
I've seen guys get scammed by girl in WoW and in EVE - as in to the point of buying gold/isk online in order to buy loot for the girls.
It was pathetic.But girls who play for attention are not the majority at all.
There are plenty of girl attention whores, just like there are plenty of guy attention whores.
It just so happens that being a girl in a game gets you a LOT of attention - and that's hardly the girls fault.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541542</id>
	<title>Re:Everquest? Maybe a biased sample</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1259771880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IMO that's because EvE has more in common with resource management games than traditional MMOs do. Yes, every MMO is essentially about resource management, but usually on a smaller, tactical scale (how much healing does the tank need, how quickly does mana regenerate...), not the long winded, strategic management game EvE is (where battles are usually fought in the hangars, when fleets meet it's usually already decided before the first shot is fired).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IMO that 's because EvE has more in common with resource management games than traditional MMOs do .
Yes , every MMO is essentially about resource management , but usually on a smaller , tactical scale ( how much healing does the tank need , how quickly does mana regenerate... ) , not the long winded , strategic management game EvE is ( where battles are usually fought in the hangars , when fleets meet it 's usually already decided before the first shot is fired ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IMO that's because EvE has more in common with resource management games than traditional MMOs do.
Yes, every MMO is essentially about resource management, but usually on a smaller, tactical scale (how much healing does the tank need, how quickly does mana regenerate...), not the long winded, strategic management game EvE is (where battles are usually fought in the hangars, when fleets meet it's usually already decided before the first shot is fired).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30548154</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261660740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Im in love...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Im in love.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Im in love...</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540728</id>
	<title>May ways to read this</title>
	<author>Psaakyrn</author>
	<datestamp>1259761920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Inversely, perhaps males are more likely to realize they're addicted to an MMO and stop.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p</p><p>Additionally, this is inherently a biased sample, since it (1) only samples 1 game, and (2) only samples MMO game players.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Inversely , perhaps males are more likely to realize they 're addicted to an MMO and stop .
: pAdditionally , this is inherently a biased sample , since it ( 1 ) only samples 1 game , and ( 2 ) only samples MMO game players .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Inversely, perhaps males are more likely to realize they're addicted to an MMO and stop.
:pAdditionally, this is inherently a biased sample, since it (1) only samples 1 game, and (2) only samples MMO game players.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30542926</id>
	<title>Sounds reliable</title>
	<author>Kenoli</author>
	<datestamp>1261656300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Interestingly, however, the female gamers not only tended to log more time online (29 hours per week versus 25 for the males), but were also more likely to lie about how much they really play."</p></div><p>
Q: How much time do you spend playing per week?<br>
<i>A: About 29 hours.</i> <br>
<br>
Q: Really?<br>
<i>A: No.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:\</i></p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Interestingly , however , the female gamers not only tended to log more time online ( 29 hours per week versus 25 for the males ) , but were also more likely to lie about how much they really play .
" Q : How much time do you spend playing per week ?
A : About 29 hours .
Q : Really ?
A : No .
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<sentencetext>Interestingly, however, the female gamers not only tended to log more time online (29 hours per week versus 25 for the males), but were also more likely to lie about how much they really play.
"
Q: How much time do you spend playing per week?
A: About 29 hours.
Q: Really?
A: No.
:\
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540774</id>
	<title>But</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259762280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're forgetting MMORPGs are for casuals.  Beat Ikaruga without using up any continues, then you can call yourself hardcore.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're forgetting MMORPGs are for casuals .
Beat Ikaruga without using up any continues , then you can call yourself hardcore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're forgetting MMORPGs are for casuals.
Beat Ikaruga without using up any continues, then you can call yourself hardcore.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540540</id>
	<title>boozing is the answer</title>
	<author>hort\_wort</author>
	<datestamp>1259760300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it's because guys tend to drink more when they game.  They pass out while the girl keeps gaming and eating chocolate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's because guys tend to drink more when they game .
They pass out while the girl keeps gaming and eating chocolate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's because guys tend to drink more when they game.
They pass out while the girl keeps gaming and eating chocolate.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540518</id>
	<title>Socially isolated girl vs Casual gamer guy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259760120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think girls are not by society designed to be as interested in tech-stuff/games like men. When some of them play games, they often do it as a substitute for a social life (like many males). There are more guys playing, and many more casual male gamers. If girls were by society's design as interested in gaming, there would be more casual female gamers, making the average time spent lower.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think girls are not by society designed to be as interested in tech-stuff/games like men .
When some of them play games , they often do it as a substitute for a social life ( like many males ) .
There are more guys playing , and many more casual male gamers .
If girls were by society 's design as interested in gaming , there would be more casual female gamers , making the average time spent lower .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think girls are not by society designed to be as interested in tech-stuff/games like men.
When some of them play games, they often do it as a substitute for a social life (like many males).
There are more guys playing, and many more casual male gamers.
If girls were by society's design as interested in gaming, there would be more casual female gamers, making the average time spent lower.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540168</id>
	<title>They're build for this</title>
	<author>sopssa</author>
	<datestamp>1259757720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you ever been in a store with a girl? It's like raiding, grinding and looting all at the same time. And some innocent low leveler always get killed.</p><p>And when the correct time comes, they stab your back and run away with your epic drop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you ever been in a store with a girl ?
It 's like raiding , grinding and looting all at the same time .
And some innocent low leveler always get killed.And when the correct time comes , they stab your back and run away with your epic drop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you ever been in a store with a girl?
It's like raiding, grinding and looting all at the same time.
And some innocent low leveler always get killed.And when the correct time comes, they stab your back and run away with your epic drop.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30545174</id>
	<title>Re:Of course... totally understandable</title>
	<author>c0ck\_l0rge</author>
	<datestamp>1261678500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, you don't mastubate? Or just not as much?
That's just a crime against nature.. Embrace yourself; literally!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , you do n't mastubate ?
Or just not as much ?
That 's just a crime against nature.. Embrace yourself ; literally !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, you don't mastubate?
Or just not as much?
That's just a crime against nature.. Embrace yourself; literally!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541254</id>
	<title>They think that's "Hardcore"?</title>
	<author>supersloshy</author>
	<datestamp>1259767860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Last time I checked, "hardcore" didn't mean "plays games a lot"; it means that you don't spend all of your money on "pet games" and "style-games" and "generic sports games" and instead spend it on games that are, as the hardcores call them, "good". "Good" games include things like Smash Bros., Bio Shock, Metroid, Metal Gear Solid, The Legend of Zelda (especially Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess), and other games that require a lot of skill and time. Just because girls play a certain online game more than males means they're more "hardcore"? Did they take the "genre" of the game into account? No? Then how the crap does this pass as being scientific?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Last time I checked , " hardcore " did n't mean " plays games a lot " ; it means that you do n't spend all of your money on " pet games " and " style-games " and " generic sports games " and instead spend it on games that are , as the hardcores call them , " good " .
" Good " games include things like Smash Bros. , Bio Shock , Metroid , Metal Gear Solid , The Legend of Zelda ( especially Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess ) , and other games that require a lot of skill and time .
Just because girls play a certain online game more than males means they 're more " hardcore " ?
Did they take the " genre " of the game into account ?
No ? Then how the crap does this pass as being scientific ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last time I checked, "hardcore" didn't mean "plays games a lot"; it means that you don't spend all of your money on "pet games" and "style-games" and "generic sports games" and instead spend it on games that are, as the hardcores call them, "good".
"Good" games include things like Smash Bros., Bio Shock, Metroid, Metal Gear Solid, The Legend of Zelda (especially Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess), and other games that require a lot of skill and time.
Just because girls play a certain online game more than males means they're more "hardcore"?
Did they take the "genre" of the game into account?
No? Then how the crap does this pass as being scientific?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540208</id>
	<title>I'm not surprised</title>
	<author>pablodiazgutierrez</author>
	<datestamp>1259757900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is <a href="http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/lax/878989144.html" title="craigslist.org">previous evidence</a> [craigslist.org] of this..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is previous evidence [ craigslist.org ] of this. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is previous evidence [craigslist.org] of this..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541516</id>
	<title>Re:EQ?!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259771520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe being an adult, able to spell or speak in complete sentences (or at least 2 out of 3) was a requirement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe being an adult , able to spell or speak in complete sentences ( or at least 2 out of 3 ) was a requirement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe being an adult, able to spell or speak in complete sentences (or at least 2 out of 3) was a requirement.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541034</id>
	<title>Re:Misleading headline</title>
	<author>hedwards</author>
	<datestamp>1259765040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's what I'm wondering about, in a lot of these sorts of games you can gain lots of XP by taking on harder tasks or just by spending many, many more hours grinding. Also, if we're just going by time playing that would include chat time as well as tidying up the character.<br> <br>

Besides, to really be hardcore anymore you pretty much have to be taking that character out of the game and acting it out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what I 'm wondering about , in a lot of these sorts of games you can gain lots of XP by taking on harder tasks or just by spending many , many more hours grinding .
Also , if we 're just going by time playing that would include chat time as well as tidying up the character .
Besides , to really be hardcore anymore you pretty much have to be taking that character out of the game and acting it out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what I'm wondering about, in a lot of these sorts of games you can gain lots of XP by taking on harder tasks or just by spending many, many more hours grinding.
Also, if we're just going by time playing that would include chat time as well as tidying up the character.
Besides, to really be hardcore anymore you pretty much have to be taking that character out of the game and acting it out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540894</id>
	<title>Re:But- but-</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259763480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; When I was in high school, we took part in a mandatory survey.   It ranged through sex, drugs, and alcohol.  I answered honestly, but I was talking to people afterwards that blatantly lied. Well, unless they really believed how many alcoholic drug addicted whores we had in school (no, we didn't have many).   Surveys are as honest as the people taking the results would like to believe.</p><p>
&nbsp; I think about that every time there is a story on the news about how young girls are having sex with multiple partners, and how wide spread drug use is among high school students.  None of them care what they said on an anonymous survey.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>    When I was in high school , we took part in a mandatory survey .
It ranged through sex , drugs , and alcohol .
I answered honestly , but I was talking to people afterwards that blatantly lied .
Well , unless they really believed how many alcoholic drug addicted whores we had in school ( no , we did n't have many ) .
Surveys are as honest as the people taking the results would like to believe .
  I think about that every time there is a story on the news about how young girls are having sex with multiple partners , and how wide spread drug use is among high school students .
None of them care what they said on an anonymous survey .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
    When I was in high school, we took part in a mandatory survey.
It ranged through sex, drugs, and alcohol.
I answered honestly, but I was talking to people afterwards that blatantly lied.
Well, unless they really believed how many alcoholic drug addicted whores we had in school (no, we didn't have many).
Surveys are as honest as the people taking the results would like to believe.
  I think about that every time there is a story on the news about how young girls are having sex with multiple partners, and how wide spread drug use is among high school students.
None of them care what they said on an anonymous survey.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30542282</id>
	<title>Obligatory since it's the season</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259783400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://check.animeblogger.net/2008/12/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //check.animeblogger.net/2008/12/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://check.animeblogger.net/2008/12/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540834</id>
	<title>MMORPGs are not hardcore</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259762820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>MMORPGs are mainstream. Shmups are hardcore. Come and talk to me again when you find girls who can one-credit Ikaruga.</htmltext>
<tokenext>MMORPGs are mainstream .
Shmups are hardcore .
Come and talk to me again when you find girls who can one-credit Ikaruga .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MMORPGs are mainstream.
Shmups are hardcore.
Come and talk to me again when you find girls who can one-credit Ikaruga.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540582</id>
	<title>Time != Hardcore</title>
	<author>jabbathewocket</author>
	<datestamp>1259760660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Errrm umm<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. time spent and wasted != hardcore, it just means they spent more time..
Casual gamers spend hundreds of hours and frequently thousands of dollars trying to fetch the latest purple unicorn vanity pet<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. vs spending 100s of hours engaged in group raid ? which is more hardcore? this is a retarded article and theres really no way to even begin to cover the failings in these comments<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Errrm umm .. time spent and wasted ! = hardcore , it just means they spent more time. . Casual gamers spend hundreds of hours and frequently thousands of dollars trying to fetch the latest purple unicorn vanity pet .. vs spending 100s of hours engaged in group raid ?
which is more hardcore ?
this is a retarded article and theres really no way to even begin to cover the failings in these comments : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Errrm umm .. time spent and wasted != hardcore, it just means they spent more time..
Casual gamers spend hundreds of hours and frequently thousands of dollars trying to fetch the latest purple unicorn vanity pet .. vs spending 100s of hours engaged in group raid ?
which is more hardcore?
this is a retarded article and theres really no way to even begin to cover the failings in these comments :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540648</id>
	<title>ManDude</title>
	<author>mitrevski</author>
	<datestamp>1259761080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, and I'm a girl, too. Especially when I get to enter my gender in online forms.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....
@sopssa
The stats are probably fairly accurate, though. Yes, I have been shopping with girl(s). And yes, it is HARDCORE.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , and I 'm a girl , too .
Especially when I get to enter my gender in online forms .
... . @ sopssa The stats are probably fairly accurate , though .
Yes , I have been shopping with girl ( s ) .
And yes , it is HARDCORE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, and I'm a girl, too.
Especially when I get to enter my gender in online forms.
....
@sopssa
The stats are probably fairly accurate, though.
Yes, I have been shopping with girl(s).
And yes, it is HARDCORE.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30542326</id>
	<title>Its simple and obvious</title>
	<author>wintermute000</author>
	<datestamp>1261685280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its simple and obvious</p><p>There are many societal / peer pressures against being a gamer (for good or bad, I'm not trying into that debate). These pressures are multipled many times for girls.<br>Hence only the *really* obsessed girls end up saying 'eff it' and gaming away.,</p><p>QED</p><p>side note: I once dated a gamer chick, ended amicably, but I always suspected she was really a lesbian</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its simple and obviousThere are many societal / peer pressures against being a gamer ( for good or bad , I 'm not trying into that debate ) .
These pressures are multipled many times for girls.Hence only the * really * obsessed girls end up saying 'eff it ' and gaming away.,QEDside note : I once dated a gamer chick , ended amicably , but I always suspected she was really a lesbian</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its simple and obviousThere are many societal / peer pressures against being a gamer (for good or bad, I'm not trying into that debate).
These pressures are multipled many times for girls.Hence only the *really* obsessed girls end up saying 'eff it' and gaming away.,QEDside note: I once dated a gamer chick, ended amicably, but I always suspected she was really a lesbian</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30542476</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not surprised</title>
	<author>stms</author>
	<datestamp>1261688100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If I new WOW nerds got so much pussy I would have started playing WOW a long time ago.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I new WOW nerds got so much pussy I would have started playing WOW a long time ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I new WOW nerds got so much pussy I would have started playing WOW a long time ago.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540208</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30563312</id>
	<title>I can vouch for this...</title>
	<author>sw33tjimmy</author>
	<datestamp>1261931280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...my wife went nuts on Fallout3 and Oblivion. probably logged 200plus hours between the two.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...my wife went nuts on Fallout3 and Oblivion .
probably logged 200plus hours between the two .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...my wife went nuts on Fallout3 and Oblivion.
probably logged 200plus hours between the two.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540782</id>
	<title>masturbation</title>
	<author>hjf</author>
	<datestamp>1259762400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>the female gamers not only tended to log more time online (29 hours per week versus 25 for the males), but were also more likely to lie about how much they really play."</p></div></blockquote><p>and women don't masturbate as much as men, neither do they have the same sex drive. yeah, rite.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the female gamers not only tended to log more time online ( 29 hours per week versus 25 for the males ) , but were also more likely to lie about how much they really play .
" and women do n't masturbate as much as men , neither do they have the same sex drive .
yeah , rite .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the female gamers not only tended to log more time online (29 hours per week versus 25 for the males), but were also more likely to lie about how much they really play.
"and women don't masturbate as much as men, neither do they have the same sex drive.
yeah, rite.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541690</id>
	<title>29 hours per week!</title>
	<author>rgravina</author>
	<datestamp>1259773800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Am I the only one that thinks 29 (or even 25) hours per week spent on an online game is grossly excessive?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one that thinks 29 ( or even 25 ) hours per week spent on an online game is grossly excessive ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one that thinks 29 (or even 25) hours per week spent on an online game is grossly excessive?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30546938</id>
	<title>Re:I can't take girl gamers seriously</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261649100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you hitting on me?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you hitting on me ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you hitting on me?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30543774</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30542058</id>
	<title>Re:Everquest? Maybe a biased sample</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259779920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet I know that one girl you mentioned.  In my years of playing eve, I only ever met one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet I know that one girl you mentioned .
In my years of playing eve , I only ever met one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet I know that one girl you mentioned.
In my years of playing eve, I only ever met one.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540472</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540526</id>
	<title>i once was with a group</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259760180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i once was with a group of women who all tried to get me on WOW.<br>women encouraging men, what has the world gone trough? (lol)</p><p>i don't understand MMO's, paying anything extra for playing online is a useless deal and they can keep their crap.<br>if i buy a game i bought a game, i ain't going to pay on top of buying a game!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i once was with a group of women who all tried to get me on WOW.women encouraging men , what has the world gone trough ?
( lol ) i do n't understand MMO 's , paying anything extra for playing online is a useless deal and they can keep their crap.if i buy a game i bought a game , i ai n't going to pay on top of buying a game !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i once was with a group of women who all tried to get me on WOW.women encouraging men, what has the world gone trough?
(lol)i don't understand MMO's, paying anything extra for playing online is a useless deal and they can keep their crap.if i buy a game i bought a game, i ain't going to pay on top of buying a game!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540562</id>
	<title>How do I bad studied</title>
	<author>Virak</author>
	<datestamp>1259760420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The key part to note is that they only included a <i>single</i> game which fits very cleanly into a <i>single</i> genre. All it tells us is that female gamers play EQ2 more on average than male gamers. It's also a bit of evidence towards the same for MMORPGs in general. However, it's ridiculous to from this conclude that female gamers amongst the (much, much) broader gaming community play more than males.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The key part to note is that they only included a single game which fits very cleanly into a single genre .
All it tells us is that female gamers play EQ2 more on average than male gamers .
It 's also a bit of evidence towards the same for MMORPGs in general .
However , it 's ridiculous to from this conclude that female gamers amongst the ( much , much ) broader gaming community play more than males .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The key part to note is that they only included a single game which fits very cleanly into a single genre.
All it tells us is that female gamers play EQ2 more on average than male gamers.
It's also a bit of evidence towards the same for MMORPGs in general.
However, it's ridiculous to from this conclude that female gamers amongst the (much, much) broader gaming community play more than males.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541286</id>
	<title>Re:They don't lie...</title>
	<author>jennyfever</author>
	<datestamp>1259768100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>HA... You're totally right.  Buying dyes and picking up armor is the best ever.  I look forward to lvling up so I can wear new stuff.  True story.</htmltext>
<tokenext>HA... You 're totally right .
Buying dyes and picking up armor is the best ever .
I look forward to lvling up so I can wear new stuff .
True story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HA... You're totally right.
Buying dyes and picking up armor is the best ever.
I look forward to lvling up so I can wear new stuff.
True story.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540220</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30542034</id>
	<title>Re:Of course... totally understandable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259779500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Speak for yourself I'm looking at tabs and tabs of icky porn, reading slashdot and afk mining in eve online. In fact my slashdot reading is the only thing putting a softener into my wanking session.</p><p>[Close Tab]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Speak for yourself I 'm looking at tabs and tabs of icky porn , reading slashdot and afk mining in eve online .
In fact my slashdot reading is the only thing putting a softener into my wanking session .
[ Close Tab ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Speak for yourself I'm looking at tabs and tabs of icky porn, reading slashdot and afk mining in eve online.
In fact my slashdot reading is the only thing putting a softener into my wanking session.
[Close Tab]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541354</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540262</id>
	<title>I prefer girls in hardcore too</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1259758260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh, not that kind of hard core.</p><p>That's okay. Just call them hon, talk about how hard core they are, and hit on them. When they get mad, they get distracted, and when they're distracted they're sloppy. Then when they lose tell them they play like a girl. Recommend you wear a groin protector if you're going to try this in person.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , not that kind of hard core.That 's okay .
Just call them hon , talk about how hard core they are , and hit on them .
When they get mad , they get distracted , and when they 're distracted they 're sloppy .
Then when they lose tell them they play like a girl .
Recommend you wear a groin protector if you 're going to try this in person .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, not that kind of hard core.That's okay.
Just call them hon, talk about how hard core they are, and hit on them.
When they get mad, they get distracted, and when they're distracted they're sloppy.
Then when they lose tell them they play like a girl.
Recommend you wear a groin protector if you're going to try this in person.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541724</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not surprised</title>
	<author>nanospook</author>
	<datestamp>1259774400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OH HO HO HO, HAHAHA WOW I needed a good laugh, Merry Christmas everyone!</htmltext>
<tokenext>OH HO HO HO , HAHAHA WOW I needed a good laugh , Merry Christmas everyone !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OH HO HO HO, HAHAHA WOW I needed a good laugh, Merry Christmas everyone!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541960</id>
	<title>Re:May ways to read this</title>
	<author>dtml-try MyNick</author>
	<datestamp>1259778540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But true<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p><p>My girlfriend and me started playing WoW on launchday. We both had a stretch of time that we played pretty "hardcore".<br>I'm a recovering wow-a-holic for almost two years now.  She still plays the damn game (though a lot less time is involved now) but, still..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But true : - ) My girlfriend and me started playing WoW on launchday .
We both had a stretch of time that we played pretty " hardcore " .I 'm a recovering wow-a-holic for almost two years now .
She still plays the damn game ( though a lot less time is involved now ) but , still. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But true :-)My girlfriend and me started playing WoW on launchday.
We both had a stretch of time that we played pretty "hardcore".I'm a recovering wow-a-holic for almost two years now.
She still plays the damn game (though a lot less time is involved now) but, still..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30542254</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe they'll start marketing to females?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259782980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How many msgs did this girl get?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many msgs did this girl get ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many msgs did this girl get?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540402</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541424</id>
	<title>I can't take girl gamers seriously</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259770380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just can't take "girl gamers" seriously because unfortunately, rule #1 of being a girl gamer is to make 100\% sure that EVERYBODY knows you are a girl.  I'm sorry, but WHY does it matter?  It doesn't!  Oh wait, except if you beat the guys, they MUST know they were beaten by a girl!  And if you get beaten by the guys, hey, it's OK!  You're just a girl!</p><p>And of COURSE the girl gamers WANT all the added attention from the male misfits whose only hope of interaction with the opposite sex is only going to happen behind the veil of online gaming.  You girl gamers say/pretend you don't, but you really do want it, or else you wouldn't follow the aforementioned rule #1 of being a girl gamer.  And 100\% of girl gamers follow rule #1.</p><p>The only girl gamers I can take seriously aren't girl gamers.  They're just gamers.  They don't need for everyone to know they are girls.  They don't need for ME to know they are girls.  They just game in a gender neutral fashion.  While I sincerely applaud any females who may be gaming in said manner, I doubt that any more than<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.00001\% of female game players are really "just gamers" and not "girl gamers".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just ca n't take " girl gamers " seriously because unfortunately , rule # 1 of being a girl gamer is to make 100 \ % sure that EVERYBODY knows you are a girl .
I 'm sorry , but WHY does it matter ?
It does n't !
Oh wait , except if you beat the guys , they MUST know they were beaten by a girl !
And if you get beaten by the guys , hey , it 's OK !
You 're just a girl ! And of COURSE the girl gamers WANT all the added attention from the male misfits whose only hope of interaction with the opposite sex is only going to happen behind the veil of online gaming .
You girl gamers say/pretend you do n't , but you really do want it , or else you would n't follow the aforementioned rule # 1 of being a girl gamer .
And 100 \ % of girl gamers follow rule # 1.The only girl gamers I can take seriously are n't girl gamers .
They 're just gamers .
They do n't need for everyone to know they are girls .
They do n't need for ME to know they are girls .
They just game in a gender neutral fashion .
While I sincerely applaud any females who may be gaming in said manner , I doubt that any more than .00001 \ % of female game players are really " just gamers " and not " girl gamers " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just can't take "girl gamers" seriously because unfortunately, rule #1 of being a girl gamer is to make 100\% sure that EVERYBODY knows you are a girl.
I'm sorry, but WHY does it matter?
It doesn't!
Oh wait, except if you beat the guys, they MUST know they were beaten by a girl!
And if you get beaten by the guys, hey, it's OK!
You're just a girl!And of COURSE the girl gamers WANT all the added attention from the male misfits whose only hope of interaction with the opposite sex is only going to happen behind the veil of online gaming.
You girl gamers say/pretend you don't, but you really do want it, or else you wouldn't follow the aforementioned rule #1 of being a girl gamer.
And 100\% of girl gamers follow rule #1.The only girl gamers I can take seriously aren't girl gamers.
They're just gamers.
They don't need for everyone to know they are girls.
They don't need for ME to know they are girls.
They just game in a gender neutral fashion.
While I sincerely applaud any females who may be gaming in said manner, I doubt that any more than .00001\% of female game players are really "just gamers" and not "girl gamers".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540656</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259761140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My guess is that this was posted by a transsexual looking for some unsuspecting geek to come and bang him in the rear.<br> <br>While I do agree that most WoW players are desperate enough to go for this the poster would be better suited to play EVE where any who accepts such a proposal would be more likely to come back for more of the same.<br> <br>Just as a side note... chubby *is* overweight in the eyes of most people.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My guess is that this was posted by a transsexual looking for some unsuspecting geek to come and bang him in the rear .
While I do agree that most WoW players are desperate enough to go for this the poster would be better suited to play EVE where any who accepts such a proposal would be more likely to come back for more of the same .
Just as a side note... chubby * is * overweight in the eyes of most people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My guess is that this was posted by a transsexual looking for some unsuspecting geek to come and bang him in the rear.
While I do agree that most WoW players are desperate enough to go for this the poster would be better suited to play EVE where any who accepts such a proposal would be more likely to come back for more of the same.
Just as a side note... chubby *is* overweight in the eyes of most people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540208</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541528</id>
	<title>You may be on to something</title>
	<author>Sycraft-fu</author>
	<datestamp>1259771640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think what is going on is that women are behind men in terms of gaming and social acceptance. As I've grown up I've watched video games grow from something for "nerds" in to a mass form of entertainment for everyone. It went from being a thing seen as mostly for kids to something that many adults play.</p><p>When I started playing games, as a little kid (I got an NES when I was 6), it made me different from most people. My friends also liked games, but then my friends were geeky like me as you'd expect. It was seen as abnormal to like to play games like this. Most kids didn't want to. It was a source of teasing from other kids that I'd rather play video games than whatever their chosen activity was.</p><p>However, by the time I hit university, game system were pretty common. The frat boy types in the dorms had game systems and sat around playing them frequently. It had become an accepted thing more or less. It was surprising to nobody that I played video games, though I certainly played a lot more than most. I had grown up as a gamer and was (and am) "hardcore."</p><p>Now games are extremely prevalent. Those of us that have grown up gamers are adults, and many have kids. Those kids are exposed to adults playing games from the start. It is just another part of life, like TV.</p><p>So the point of all this is that in like 3 decades of home gaming, it has gone from a small segment of geeks, mostly children, to being acceptable for the larger population. What I think you find though is that the people who started it 2-3 decades ago are much more hardcore. Gaming struck a real chord with them which is why they did it even when it was unpopular. This doesn't change, they still like it. I sure do. I am still a hardcore gamer and imagine I always will be. I rarely watch TV not because I hate TV but because I like playing games and I only have to much free time what with having a job and all that.</p><p>BUT it seems that women are behind the curve.</p><p>This I also observed. I knew essentially NO girls who played games when I was young, and even in college it was fairly rare. Now I know quite a few. Not nearly as many as I know guys, but it is not so surprising to find a girl playing games.</p><p>So, it does seem that women are 5-10 years behind men in terms of social acceptance of games. Thus it comes as no surprise that more of them are hardcore. The more casual types tend to come in more and more as it becomes more acceptable. The people who are interested to some degree, but no more than they are interested in other forms of entertainment. They come on as they feel it is a socially acceptable thing to do. The hardcore types don't care, they like it and will do it regardless of what people think.</p><p>Hopefully, the trend of acceptance continues. Hopefully, men and women continue to realize games are another great way of entertaining yourself if you like it, and we reach a point where no matter what your age, gender, etc it is "normal" for you to play games if you like to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think what is going on is that women are behind men in terms of gaming and social acceptance .
As I 've grown up I 've watched video games grow from something for " nerds " in to a mass form of entertainment for everyone .
It went from being a thing seen as mostly for kids to something that many adults play.When I started playing games , as a little kid ( I got an NES when I was 6 ) , it made me different from most people .
My friends also liked games , but then my friends were geeky like me as you 'd expect .
It was seen as abnormal to like to play games like this .
Most kids did n't want to .
It was a source of teasing from other kids that I 'd rather play video games than whatever their chosen activity was.However , by the time I hit university , game system were pretty common .
The frat boy types in the dorms had game systems and sat around playing them frequently .
It had become an accepted thing more or less .
It was surprising to nobody that I played video games , though I certainly played a lot more than most .
I had grown up as a gamer and was ( and am ) " hardcore .
" Now games are extremely prevalent .
Those of us that have grown up gamers are adults , and many have kids .
Those kids are exposed to adults playing games from the start .
It is just another part of life , like TV.So the point of all this is that in like 3 decades of home gaming , it has gone from a small segment of geeks , mostly children , to being acceptable for the larger population .
What I think you find though is that the people who started it 2-3 decades ago are much more hardcore .
Gaming struck a real chord with them which is why they did it even when it was unpopular .
This does n't change , they still like it .
I sure do .
I am still a hardcore gamer and imagine I always will be .
I rarely watch TV not because I hate TV but because I like playing games and I only have to much free time what with having a job and all that.BUT it seems that women are behind the curve.This I also observed .
I knew essentially NO girls who played games when I was young , and even in college it was fairly rare .
Now I know quite a few .
Not nearly as many as I know guys , but it is not so surprising to find a girl playing games.So , it does seem that women are 5-10 years behind men in terms of social acceptance of games .
Thus it comes as no surprise that more of them are hardcore .
The more casual types tend to come in more and more as it becomes more acceptable .
The people who are interested to some degree , but no more than they are interested in other forms of entertainment .
They come on as they feel it is a socially acceptable thing to do .
The hardcore types do n't care , they like it and will do it regardless of what people think.Hopefully , the trend of acceptance continues .
Hopefully , men and women continue to realize games are another great way of entertaining yourself if you like it , and we reach a point where no matter what your age , gender , etc it is " normal " for you to play games if you like to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think what is going on is that women are behind men in terms of gaming and social acceptance.
As I've grown up I've watched video games grow from something for "nerds" in to a mass form of entertainment for everyone.
It went from being a thing seen as mostly for kids to something that many adults play.When I started playing games, as a little kid (I got an NES when I was 6), it made me different from most people.
My friends also liked games, but then my friends were geeky like me as you'd expect.
It was seen as abnormal to like to play games like this.
Most kids didn't want to.
It was a source of teasing from other kids that I'd rather play video games than whatever their chosen activity was.However, by the time I hit university, game system were pretty common.
The frat boy types in the dorms had game systems and sat around playing them frequently.
It had become an accepted thing more or less.
It was surprising to nobody that I played video games, though I certainly played a lot more than most.
I had grown up as a gamer and was (and am) "hardcore.
"Now games are extremely prevalent.
Those of us that have grown up gamers are adults, and many have kids.
Those kids are exposed to adults playing games from the start.
It is just another part of life, like TV.So the point of all this is that in like 3 decades of home gaming, it has gone from a small segment of geeks, mostly children, to being acceptable for the larger population.
What I think you find though is that the people who started it 2-3 decades ago are much more hardcore.
Gaming struck a real chord with them which is why they did it even when it was unpopular.
This doesn't change, they still like it.
I sure do.
I am still a hardcore gamer and imagine I always will be.
I rarely watch TV not because I hate TV but because I like playing games and I only have to much free time what with having a job and all that.BUT it seems that women are behind the curve.This I also observed.
I knew essentially NO girls who played games when I was young, and even in college it was fairly rare.
Now I know quite a few.
Not nearly as many as I know guys, but it is not so surprising to find a girl playing games.So, it does seem that women are 5-10 years behind men in terms of social acceptance of games.
Thus it comes as no surprise that more of them are hardcore.
The more casual types tend to come in more and more as it becomes more acceptable.
The people who are interested to some degree, but no more than they are interested in other forms of entertainment.
They come on as they feel it is a socially acceptable thing to do.
The hardcore types don't care, they like it and will do it regardless of what people think.Hopefully, the trend of acceptance continues.
Hopefully, men and women continue to realize games are another great way of entertaining yourself if you like it, and we reach a point where no matter what your age, gender, etc it is "normal" for you to play games if you like to.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540636</id>
	<title>Hardcore? Sounds more like casual extreme.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259761020000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>This isn't surprising based on the type of game studied. Women are social animals and MMOs provide a convenient medium for socializing. After playing WoW for about a year (my first MMO) and getting to raid with a guild, I came to the conclusion that, in actuality, WoW was less of a game and more of a very feature-rich chat client. However, the gaming aspect is important to draw in and keep a population base that is necessary for the socializing to occur. With each successive MMO that I've tried out, the same issue remains: how well you do in these games, in terms of collecting epic loot and such, depends 90\% on your willingness to engage in idle chatter, and as long as you're not completely incompetent as a player the other 10\% is covered. OTOH, if you demonstrate immense skill by, for example, soloing an elite quest designed for a group of people at your level, you still only get the same reward you would have gotten in a group. The fact that you aren't really rewarded for skillful play pretty much makes "hardcore MMO" an oxymoron. In a raid, your group as a whole must demonstrate skill in order to receive rewards, but the rewards within the raid are determined by one's social rank and has nothing to do with their role in the raid's success. In other words, females devote more time and effort into what hardcore gamers would refer to as casual gaming. To put it another way, if you have a top 10 score in Bejeweled (and I have no doubt that a good portion of top 10 Bejeweled scores are held by women), that alone would not really make you hardcore at all. It would just make you a, shall we say, casual extremist. Which is also how I would describe veteran MMO players.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't surprising based on the type of game studied .
Women are social animals and MMOs provide a convenient medium for socializing .
After playing WoW for about a year ( my first MMO ) and getting to raid with a guild , I came to the conclusion that , in actuality , WoW was less of a game and more of a very feature-rich chat client .
However , the gaming aspect is important to draw in and keep a population base that is necessary for the socializing to occur .
With each successive MMO that I 've tried out , the same issue remains : how well you do in these games , in terms of collecting epic loot and such , depends 90 \ % on your willingness to engage in idle chatter , and as long as you 're not completely incompetent as a player the other 10 \ % is covered .
OTOH , if you demonstrate immense skill by , for example , soloing an elite quest designed for a group of people at your level , you still only get the same reward you would have gotten in a group .
The fact that you are n't really rewarded for skillful play pretty much makes " hardcore MMO " an oxymoron .
In a raid , your group as a whole must demonstrate skill in order to receive rewards , but the rewards within the raid are determined by one 's social rank and has nothing to do with their role in the raid 's success .
In other words , females devote more time and effort into what hardcore gamers would refer to as casual gaming .
To put it another way , if you have a top 10 score in Bejeweled ( and I have no doubt that a good portion of top 10 Bejeweled scores are held by women ) , that alone would not really make you hardcore at all .
It would just make you a , shall we say , casual extremist .
Which is also how I would describe veteran MMO players .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't surprising based on the type of game studied.
Women are social animals and MMOs provide a convenient medium for socializing.
After playing WoW for about a year (my first MMO) and getting to raid with a guild, I came to the conclusion that, in actuality, WoW was less of a game and more of a very feature-rich chat client.
However, the gaming aspect is important to draw in and keep a population base that is necessary for the socializing to occur.
With each successive MMO that I've tried out, the same issue remains: how well you do in these games, in terms of collecting epic loot and such, depends 90\% on your willingness to engage in idle chatter, and as long as you're not completely incompetent as a player the other 10\% is covered.
OTOH, if you demonstrate immense skill by, for example, soloing an elite quest designed for a group of people at your level, you still only get the same reward you would have gotten in a group.
The fact that you aren't really rewarded for skillful play pretty much makes "hardcore MMO" an oxymoron.
In a raid, your group as a whole must demonstrate skill in order to receive rewards, but the rewards within the raid are determined by one's social rank and has nothing to do with their role in the raid's success.
In other words, females devote more time and effort into what hardcore gamers would refer to as casual gaming.
To put it another way, if you have a top 10 score in Bejeweled (and I have no doubt that a good portion of top 10 Bejeweled scores are held by women), that alone would not really make you hardcore at all.
It would just make you a, shall we say, casual extremist.
Which is also how I would describe veteran MMO players.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30544474</id>
	<title>Re:Of course...</title>
	<author>greyhueofdoubt</author>
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	<htmltext><p>I disagree. I know a couple of guys who play WoW: One of them plays casually, one or two hours per week (and he is in a relationship; before that he played much more). The other guy plays WoW on the order of 80+ hours per week.</p><p>After a few years of working with them, I'd estimate that the amount of shit you take as a (male) wow player is proportional to the square of the number of hours/week you spend playing. It really defines the way people think about you, not to mention that you already have little to no social life for others to get to know you better.</p><p>On the other hand, the two women who play (one plays WoW, the other one plays some game I don't know) enjoy an insult-free world when they're not playing. Maybe it's just where I live or something, but I can't see any guy giving shit to any girl for any reason outside of relationship issues. Maybe other girls secretly attack them, I don't know- All I know is that if you went so far as to question a woman's outfit or driving- let alone what she does in most of her spare time- you will be ostracized and carry a permanent black mark on your reputation.</p><p>God that seems so petty and childlike when I read it back. Welcome to the upper midwest! Minnesota Nice!</p><p>-b</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I disagree .
I know a couple of guys who play WoW : One of them plays casually , one or two hours per week ( and he is in a relationship ; before that he played much more ) .
The other guy plays WoW on the order of 80 + hours per week.After a few years of working with them , I 'd estimate that the amount of shit you take as a ( male ) wow player is proportional to the square of the number of hours/week you spend playing .
It really defines the way people think about you , not to mention that you already have little to no social life for others to get to know you better.On the other hand , the two women who play ( one plays WoW , the other one plays some game I do n't know ) enjoy an insult-free world when they 're not playing .
Maybe it 's just where I live or something , but I ca n't see any guy giving shit to any girl for any reason outside of relationship issues .
Maybe other girls secretly attack them , I do n't know- All I know is that if you went so far as to question a woman 's outfit or driving- let alone what she does in most of her spare time- you will be ostracized and carry a permanent black mark on your reputation.God that seems so petty and childlike when I read it back .
Welcome to the upper midwest !
Minnesota Nice ! -b</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I disagree.
I know a couple of guys who play WoW: One of them plays casually, one or two hours per week (and he is in a relationship; before that he played much more).
The other guy plays WoW on the order of 80+ hours per week.After a few years of working with them, I'd estimate that the amount of shit you take as a (male) wow player is proportional to the square of the number of hours/week you spend playing.
It really defines the way people think about you, not to mention that you already have little to no social life for others to get to know you better.On the other hand, the two women who play (one plays WoW, the other one plays some game I don't know) enjoy an insult-free world when they're not playing.
Maybe it's just where I live or something, but I can't see any guy giving shit to any girl for any reason outside of relationship issues.
Maybe other girls secretly attack them, I don't know- All I know is that if you went so far as to question a woman's outfit or driving- let alone what she does in most of her spare time- you will be ostracized and carry a permanent black mark on your reputation.God that seems so petty and childlike when I read it back.
Welcome to the upper midwest!
Minnesota Nice!-b</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540922</id>
	<title>Re:Of course...</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1259763720000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>You are completely wrong. Well, more like out of date.</p><p>MMOs are perfectly acceptable for of entertainment for girls and women.<br>My daughter as a lot of MMO options and her and het friends play them. Many women who are on gaming moms that I run into at school or other social events (non gaming events) play them.</p><p>My Thursday and sunday games are half women.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are completely wrong .
Well , more like out of date.MMOs are perfectly acceptable for of entertainment for girls and women.My daughter as a lot of MMO options and her and het friends play them .
Many women who are on gaming moms that I run into at school or other social events ( non gaming events ) play them.My Thursday and sunday games are half women .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are completely wrong.
Well, more like out of date.MMOs are perfectly acceptable for of entertainment for girls and women.My daughter as a lot of MMO options and her and het friends play them.
Many women who are on gaming moms that I run into at school or other social events (non gaming events) play them.My Thursday and sunday games are half women.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30544114</id>
	<title>Re:They're build for this</title>
	<author>pwfffff</author>
	<datestamp>1261671780000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Another anecdote doesn't really serve to prove your point, but I'll throw my two cents in and say that I too have seen it in action. One of my WoW buddies flirted quite a bit with a girl around his age in game, and soon found out she was married to another guy in the guild. That didn't stop either of them from continuing to flirt though, and my friend eventually felt guilty or something and informed the husband.</p><p>How her husband failed to be good enough when she had jack shit to do other than WoW quests all day, I have no idea...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another anecdote does n't really serve to prove your point , but I 'll throw my two cents in and say that I too have seen it in action .
One of my WoW buddies flirted quite a bit with a girl around his age in game , and soon found out she was married to another guy in the guild .
That did n't stop either of them from continuing to flirt though , and my friend eventually felt guilty or something and informed the husband.How her husband failed to be good enough when she had jack shit to do other than WoW quests all day , I have no idea.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another anecdote doesn't really serve to prove your point, but I'll throw my two cents in and say that I too have seen it in action.
One of my WoW buddies flirted quite a bit with a girl around his age in game, and soon found out she was married to another guy in the guild.
That didn't stop either of them from continuing to flirt though, and my friend eventually felt guilty or something and informed the husband.How her husband failed to be good enough when she had jack shit to do other than WoW quests all day, I have no idea...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541494</id>
	<title>Re:I call Shenanigans.</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1259771340000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Welcome to the internet. Where men are men, women are men and children are FBI agents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to the internet .
Where men are men , women are men and children are FBI agents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to the internet.
Where men are men, women are men and children are FBI agents.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30542586</id>
	<title>More psycho!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261647840000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Don't know about all that, but when the girl's get into something, they really get into something!

My missus, nice as pie, would say boo to a goose, works as a teacher, but when the sun goes down and the kids have been packed off to bed, she lets loose on Sauerbraten FPS and she's like a banshee, possesed by some evil force! She never plays while the kids are around, glad too, they wouldn't recognize mummy when she's in full-on killing-spree, deathmatch mode! I tried playing her once and got my ass whipped for 45 mins solid. Something to do with women having far greater small motor skills, ideal for gaming!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't know about all that , but when the girl 's get into something , they really get into something !
My missus , nice as pie , would say boo to a goose , works as a teacher , but when the sun goes down and the kids have been packed off to bed , she lets loose on Sauerbraten FPS and she 's like a banshee , possesed by some evil force !
She never plays while the kids are around , glad too , they would n't recognize mummy when she 's in full-on killing-spree , deathmatch mode !
I tried playing her once and got my ass whipped for 45 mins solid .
Something to do with women having far greater small motor skills , ideal for gaming !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't know about all that, but when the girl's get into something, they really get into something!
My missus, nice as pie, would say boo to a goose, works as a teacher, but when the sun goes down and the kids have been packed off to bed, she lets loose on Sauerbraten FPS and she's like a banshee, possesed by some evil force!
She never plays while the kids are around, glad too, they wouldn't recognize mummy when she's in full-on killing-spree, deathmatch mode!
I tried playing her once and got my ass whipped for 45 mins solid.
Something to do with women having far greater small motor skills, ideal for gaming!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540402</id>
	<title>Maybe they'll start marketing to females?</title>
	<author>dylannika</author>
	<datestamp>1259759220000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>There are girls who game, and who game quite extensively. I would call myself one of those girls, and I easily log 20+ hours a week playing. Granted, my friend set is probably a little skewed since we're all females in either engineering or CS, so I won't comment on the numbers of girls that exhibit these traits.
That being said, maybe game marketers will wake up and realize that we do play, and that we do invest a lot of time into it and maybe they'll actually try to start marketing to more of us. We're just as happy to plunk down our cash for a game. And we're probably more likely to plunk down extra cash on "accessories" and other non functional goodies to make our characters look good...</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are girls who game , and who game quite extensively .
I would call myself one of those girls , and I easily log 20 + hours a week playing .
Granted , my friend set is probably a little skewed since we 're all females in either engineering or CS , so I wo n't comment on the numbers of girls that exhibit these traits .
That being said , maybe game marketers will wake up and realize that we do play , and that we do invest a lot of time into it and maybe they 'll actually try to start marketing to more of us .
We 're just as happy to plunk down our cash for a game .
And we 're probably more likely to plunk down extra cash on " accessories " and other non functional goodies to make our characters look good.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are girls who game, and who game quite extensively.
I would call myself one of those girls, and I easily log 20+ hours a week playing.
Granted, my friend set is probably a little skewed since we're all females in either engineering or CS, so I won't comment on the numbers of girls that exhibit these traits.
That being said, maybe game marketers will wake up and realize that we do play, and that we do invest a lot of time into it and maybe they'll actually try to start marketing to more of us.
We're just as happy to plunk down our cash for a game.
And we're probably more likely to plunk down extra cash on "accessories" and other non functional goodies to make our characters look good...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541610</id>
	<title>And how many are actually female?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
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	<htmltext><p>Since you established that they lie. How much can you trust what they put under the gender option?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since you established that they lie .
How much can you trust what they put under the gender option ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since you established that they lie.
How much can you trust what they put under the gender option?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541274</id>
	<title>Re:Misleading headline</title>
	<author>perlchild</author>
	<datestamp>1259768040000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>According to TFA, they considered hardcore someone who played more than 30 hours a week and answered "I don't plan to quit".  Males were less hardcore on the second criterion IIRC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to TFA , they considered hardcore someone who played more than 30 hours a week and answered " I do n't plan to quit " .
Males were less hardcore on the second criterion IIRC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to TFA, they considered hardcore someone who played more than 30 hours a week and answered "I don't plan to quit".
Males were less hardcore on the second criterion IIRC.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:They're build for this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259758020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Have you ever been in a store with a girl?</p></div><p>This is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. the closest anybody on this forum has come to being in a store with a girl was when they walked out with the latest blowup model they just bought.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
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<tokenext>Have you ever been in a store with a girl ? This is / .
the closest anybody on this forum has come to being in a store with a girl was when they walked out with the latest blowup model they just bought .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you ever been in a store with a girl?This is /.
the closest anybody on this forum has come to being in a store with a girl was when they walked out with the latest blowup model they just bought.
;)
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541062</id>
	<title>Re:Skip the article; read the actual report</title>
	<author>StickANeedleInMyEye</author>
	<datestamp>1259765340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What I found more interesting was that as many as 22\% of female players were lesbian or bi-sexual, far more than in the general population..</p><p>As to whether to believe the better than average self-reported BMI and exercise numbers from the women in the survey? What, women misrepresent their weight online? Unheard of!</p></div><p>when asked how long is your penis you say 2"?  *really*?  BS hetero troll.</p></div>
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<tokenext>What I found more interesting was that as many as 22 \ % of female players were lesbian or bi-sexual , far more than in the general population..As to whether to believe the better than average self-reported BMI and exercise numbers from the women in the survey ?
What , women misrepresent their weight online ?
Unheard of ! when asked how long is your penis you say 2 " ?
* really * ? BS hetero troll .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I found more interesting was that as many as 22\% of female players were lesbian or bi-sexual, far more than in the general population..As to whether to believe the better than average self-reported BMI and exercise numbers from the women in the survey?
What, women misrepresent their weight online?
Unheard of!when asked how long is your penis you say 2"?
*really*?  BS hetero troll.
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	<title>WIIIILLLLMMMMMA</title>
	<author>CHRONOSS2008</author>
	<datestamp>1259781060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you women fetch me the popcorn</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you women fetch me the popcorn</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you women fetch me the popcorn</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30542170</id>
	<title>I'm a GIRL who plays GAMES</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259781540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't hit on me you silly boys!</p><p>GRRL GAMERS FOR EVER XD</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't hit on me you silly boys ! GRRL GAMERS FOR EVER XD</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't hit on me you silly boys!GRRL GAMERS FOR EVER XD</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30543142</id>
	<title>Women</title>
	<author>blue-slonopotam</author>
	<datestamp>1261660980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext> have harder time than men giving up alcohol too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>have harder time than men giving up alcohol too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> have harder time than men giving up alcohol too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540830</id>
	<title>Obvious reason for this.</title>
	<author>Xest</author>
	<datestamp>1259762760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Housewives.</p><p>Most female players I've known have been housewives, and were able to put so much time in compared to their spouses because their spouses were out working.</p><p>I used to be at home during the day because I worked at a newspaper where our hours were 8am to 8pm Mon, Tues, Fri, 8am to 6pm Weds and 8am to 12pm on Thurs so always had Thursday afternoons and Friday off as that's when the paper went to print. On those Thursday afternoons and Fridays I recall many times speaking to female guild mates who were in their mid to late twenties and early thirties playing because they'd done the house work and had nothing else to do. They'd play for hours in the day and continue to play with their partner when their partner got home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Housewives.Most female players I 've known have been housewives , and were able to put so much time in compared to their spouses because their spouses were out working.I used to be at home during the day because I worked at a newspaper where our hours were 8am to 8pm Mon , Tues , Fri , 8am to 6pm Weds and 8am to 12pm on Thurs so always had Thursday afternoons and Friday off as that 's when the paper went to print .
On those Thursday afternoons and Fridays I recall many times speaking to female guild mates who were in their mid to late twenties and early thirties playing because they 'd done the house work and had nothing else to do .
They 'd play for hours in the day and continue to play with their partner when their partner got home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Housewives.Most female players I've known have been housewives, and were able to put so much time in compared to their spouses because their spouses were out working.I used to be at home during the day because I worked at a newspaper where our hours were 8am to 8pm Mon, Tues, Fri, 8am to 6pm Weds and 8am to 12pm on Thurs so always had Thursday afternoons and Friday off as that's when the paper went to print.
On those Thursday afternoons and Fridays I recall many times speaking to female guild mates who were in their mid to late twenties and early thirties playing because they'd done the house work and had nothing else to do.
They'd play for hours in the day and continue to play with their partner when their partner got home.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540844</id>
	<title>What about people who don't play very much at all?</title>
	<author>ddxexex</author>
	<datestamp>1259762880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm no expert on this, but couldn't the 4 hour difference be explain by people (men) who only play for a little bit and quit? I would think that there would be less casual women gamers since a woman playing computer games reflects on their "geekiness" more than a man. So there's more attrition among men since the women don't try in the first place?  So what would be interesting would be a comparision against hardcore men and hardcore women, and see if there's a difference there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm no expert on this , but could n't the 4 hour difference be explain by people ( men ) who only play for a little bit and quit ?
I would think that there would be less casual women gamers since a woman playing computer games reflects on their " geekiness " more than a man .
So there 's more attrition among men since the women do n't try in the first place ?
So what would be interesting would be a comparision against hardcore men and hardcore women , and see if there 's a difference there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm no expert on this, but couldn't the 4 hour difference be explain by people (men) who only play for a little bit and quit?
I would think that there would be less casual women gamers since a woman playing computer games reflects on their "geekiness" more than a man.
So there's more attrition among men since the women don't try in the first place?
So what would be interesting would be a comparision against hardcore men and hardcore women, and see if there's a difference there.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30543890</id>
	<title>Not More Hardcore: Make More Mistakes.</title>
	<author>Kungpaoshizi</author>
	<datestamp>1261670160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's why they have more time logged.
I've dated both gaming, and nongaming types of females.
Non gamers, moot point...

Gamer girls = constant questions, tons of manipulative gameplay when they're logged in, with anyone willing to make their gaming experience easier.
And if nobody is there to do it, they whine and take it out on you...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D

So yes, I could see this article being completely true, females spend more time in the game, because it takes them longer to do what guys achieve in less time.

Not being sexist, but you have to consider WHAT is happening, in that time they're logged in, not that more = better.

That's like saying
Girls are more hardcore at $ex because they 'do it' longer.
Well, is that considering hookers?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's why they have more time logged .
I 've dated both gaming , and nongaming types of females .
Non gamers , moot point.. . Gamer girls = constant questions , tons of manipulative gameplay when they 're logged in , with anyone willing to make their gaming experience easier .
And if nobody is there to do it , they whine and take it out on you... : D So yes , I could see this article being completely true , females spend more time in the game , because it takes them longer to do what guys achieve in less time .
Not being sexist , but you have to consider WHAT is happening , in that time they 're logged in , not that more = better .
That 's like saying Girls are more hardcore at $ ex because they 'do it ' longer .
Well , is that considering hookers ?
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's why they have more time logged.
I've dated both gaming, and nongaming types of females.
Non gamers, moot point...

Gamer girls = constant questions, tons of manipulative gameplay when they're logged in, with anyone willing to make their gaming experience easier.
And if nobody is there to do it, they whine and take it out on you... :D

So yes, I could see this article being completely true, females spend more time in the game, because it takes them longer to do what guys achieve in less time.
Not being sexist, but you have to consider WHAT is happening, in that time they're logged in, not that more = better.
That's like saying
Girls are more hardcore at $ex because they 'do it' longer.
Well, is that considering hookers?
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541488</id>
	<title>Applies to EverQuest EverQuest Everquest</title>
	<author>johncandale</author>
	<datestamp>1259771280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is everquest they surveyed.  It's bee known for at lest 5 years a lot of housewifes play EQ and EQ2.   EQ has for a long time been the last bastion of hardcore <i>social</i> MMO gaming, like the MMO's of the 90s (yes they did exist).  I'm not surprised the people who play a lot on EQ2 are female, the males would have moved on to the shiny new but less social games.
I would wager  a survey of WoW would be the much less so, along with The Lord of the Rings Online, Lineage II, Age of Conan,
Final Fantasy XI, Dark age of Camelot, Aion, etc.  With maybe Eve being split a little more evenly for hardcore players.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is everquest they surveyed .
It 's bee known for at lest 5 years a lot of housewifes play EQ and EQ2 .
EQ has for a long time been the last bastion of hardcore social MMO gaming , like the MMO 's of the 90s ( yes they did exist ) .
I 'm not surprised the people who play a lot on EQ2 are female , the males would have moved on to the shiny new but less social games .
I would wager a survey of WoW would be the much less so , along with The Lord of the Rings Online , Lineage II , Age of Conan , Final Fantasy XI , Dark age of Camelot , Aion , etc .
With maybe Eve being split a little more evenly for hardcore players .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is everquest they surveyed.
It's bee known for at lest 5 years a lot of housewifes play EQ and EQ2.
EQ has for a long time been the last bastion of hardcore social MMO gaming, like the MMO's of the 90s (yes they did exist).
I'm not surprised the people who play a lot on EQ2 are female, the males would have moved on to the shiny new but less social games.
I would wager  a survey of WoW would be the much less so, along with The Lord of the Rings Online, Lineage II, Age of Conan,
Final Fantasy XI, Dark age of Camelot, Aion, etc.
With maybe Eve being split a little more evenly for hardcore players.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540424</id>
	<title>No sensationalized stories? No outright lies?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259759340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>kdawson must be on vacation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>kdawson must be on vacation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>kdawson must be on vacation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30544452</id>
	<title>Re:Skip the article; read the actual report</title>
	<author>brkello</author>
	<datestamp>1261674120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I didn't read the article, but when I read the summary, I got the impression that it was saying that the percentage of females who are hardcore was higher than that of males.  I think we all know guys game more than girls, so comparing the overall numbers, there would be more males...and that is kind of obvious and not interesting.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't read the article , but when I read the summary , I got the impression that it was saying that the percentage of females who are hardcore was higher than that of males .
I think we all know guys game more than girls , so comparing the overall numbers , there would be more males...and that is kind of obvious and not interesting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't read the article, but when I read the summary, I got the impression that it was saying that the percentage of females who are hardcore was higher than that of males.
I think we all know guys game more than girls, so comparing the overall numbers, there would be more males...and that is kind of obvious and not interesting.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540236</id>
	<title>Re:They're build for this</title>
	<author>precariousgray</author>
	<datestamp>1259758140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Beat me to first single, bitter male posting.  Damn it!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Beat me to first single , bitter male posting .
Damn it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Beat me to first single, bitter male posting.
Damn it!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540168</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540326</id>
	<title>Re:They don't lie...</title>
	<author>BiggerIsBetter</author>
	<datestamp>1259758680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They don't lie, they just doesn't count the time customizing the color and clothes of their characters which is probably 20 hours a week.*</p> </div><p>+1 Insightful. Creative interpretation leads to omission of fact... which is not lying, if you're a girl.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They do n't lie , they just does n't count the time customizing the color and clothes of their characters which is probably 20 hours a week .
* + 1 Insightful .
Creative interpretation leads to omission of fact... which is not lying , if you 're a girl .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They don't lie, they just doesn't count the time customizing the color and clothes of their characters which is probably 20 hours a week.
* +1 Insightful.
Creative interpretation leads to omission of fact... which is not lying, if you're a girl.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540220</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541744</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe they'll start marketing to females?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259774880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>. That being said, maybe game marketers will wake up and realize that we do play, and that we do invest a lot of time into it and maybe they'll actually try to start marketing to more of us. We're just as happy to plunk down our cash for a game. And we're probably more likely to plunk down extra cash on "accessories" and other non functional goodies to make our characters look good...</p></div><p>I take it you've never looked at any of the games on Facebook. I've got about 60 females on my friends list, all but about 3 of them play the crap out of those things... especially the games that let you collect and decorate. And yes, most of them have spent at least $20 via micropayment systems to get exclusive accessories.</p><p>Having said that, pretty much anyone playing EQ these days is going to be "hardcore", and the ones that aren't are probably just sticking around because they've already invested so much energy and time into it. WoW would be a much better study group due to its size and varied player base.</p><p>I think the big issue is that many game devs don't understand there is a slightly different motivation in games. This is a general statement, I know- but women in general tend to think of the "goal" of a game as a combination of social interaction and collecting stuff, where men tend to consider the goal as being a matter of domination (over other players by being "better", or the game itself by 100\%'ing it). Of course there's plenty of people that fall on either side or both.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>.
That being said , maybe game marketers will wake up and realize that we do play , and that we do invest a lot of time into it and maybe they 'll actually try to start marketing to more of us .
We 're just as happy to plunk down our cash for a game .
And we 're probably more likely to plunk down extra cash on " accessories " and other non functional goodies to make our characters look good...I take it you 've never looked at any of the games on Facebook .
I 've got about 60 females on my friends list , all but about 3 of them play the crap out of those things... especially the games that let you collect and decorate .
And yes , most of them have spent at least $ 20 via micropayment systems to get exclusive accessories.Having said that , pretty much anyone playing EQ these days is going to be " hardcore " , and the ones that are n't are probably just sticking around because they 've already invested so much energy and time into it .
WoW would be a much better study group due to its size and varied player base.I think the big issue is that many game devs do n't understand there is a slightly different motivation in games .
This is a general statement , I know- but women in general tend to think of the " goal " of a game as a combination of social interaction and collecting stuff , where men tend to consider the goal as being a matter of domination ( over other players by being " better " , or the game itself by 100 \ % 'ing it ) .
Of course there 's plenty of people that fall on either side or both .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.
That being said, maybe game marketers will wake up and realize that we do play, and that we do invest a lot of time into it and maybe they'll actually try to start marketing to more of us.
We're just as happy to plunk down our cash for a game.
And we're probably more likely to plunk down extra cash on "accessories" and other non functional goodies to make our characters look good...I take it you've never looked at any of the games on Facebook.
I've got about 60 females on my friends list, all but about 3 of them play the crap out of those things... especially the games that let you collect and decorate.
And yes, most of them have spent at least $20 via micropayment systems to get exclusive accessories.Having said that, pretty much anyone playing EQ these days is going to be "hardcore", and the ones that aren't are probably just sticking around because they've already invested so much energy and time into it.
WoW would be a much better study group due to its size and varied player base.I think the big issue is that many game devs don't understand there is a slightly different motivation in games.
This is a general statement, I know- but women in general tend to think of the "goal" of a game as a combination of social interaction and collecting stuff, where men tend to consider the goal as being a matter of domination (over other players by being "better", or the game itself by 100\%'ing it).
Of course there's plenty of people that fall on either side or both.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30542574</id>
	<title>Re:They're build for this</title>
	<author>johny42</author>
	<datestamp>1261647600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. the closest anybody on this forum has come to being in a store with a girl was when they walked out with the latest blowup model they just bought.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div><p>You must be old here.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is / .
the closest anybody on this forum has come to being in a store with a girl was when they walked out with the latest blowup model they just bought .
; ) You must be old here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is /.
the closest anybody on this forum has come to being in a store with a girl was when they walked out with the latest blowup model they just bought.
;)You must be old here.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540228</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30542648</id>
	<title>'Girl' gamer?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261649760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>More like bored middle aged housewife gamer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>More like bored middle aged housewife gamer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More like bored middle aged housewife gamer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541098</id>
	<title>Can't come up with a good kitchen joke..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259765820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm..<br>Since when did they start putting PC's in the kitchen?</p><p>or</p><p>They have to be hard core to be cooking and gaming at the same time!</p><p>or</p><p>They should be cooking up my dinner not characte..oh forget it</p><p>never mind<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm..Since when did they start putting PC 's in the kitchen ? orThey have to be hard core to be cooking and gaming at the same time ! orThey should be cooking up my dinner not characte..oh forget itnever mind : P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm..Since when did they start putting PC's in the kitchen?orThey have to be hard core to be cooking and gaming at the same time!orThey should be cooking up my dinner not characte..oh forget itnever mind :P</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30543328</id>
	<title>Effeciency?</title>
	<author>jc8088</author>
	<datestamp>1261664580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, I think everyone has missed the underlying theme here... It's obviously stating that female gamers are slightly less efficient than male counterparts resulting in a need to spend approximately 16\% more time to acquire the same level of 1337ness.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I think everyone has missed the underlying theme here... It 's obviously stating that female gamers are slightly less efficient than male counterparts resulting in a need to spend approximately 16 \ % more time to acquire the same level of 1337ness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I think everyone has missed the underlying theme here... It's obviously stating that female gamers are slightly less efficient than male counterparts resulting in a need to spend approximately 16\% more time to acquire the same level of 1337ness.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540866</id>
	<title>Re:They're build for this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259763060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to mention, men tend to have to work and provide the money for her to stay home playing an MMO 24x7. Not raising unfair stereotypes here. I've seen it in action. Lazy fucking people that somehow use their tits to sucker some dumbass into busting his ass at a thankless job while the chick sits around all day playing WoW (and occasionally meeting guys she met online). I've seen that enough that I personally wouldn't ever date a chick that's really into games or the internet.</p><p>This study is kind of pointless and obvious. Like the "men have shorter life spans than women" study. No shit. Men have no option but to work non-stop every day of their lives from the day they're on their own (or before) until the day they die. So plenty of stress. And on top of that, they tend to have more dangerous jobs. No cushy relying on someone else to make their ends meet while they chat all day at a salon with the girls or watch oprah while the kids are playing in the yard outside all afternoon after school.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention , men tend to have to work and provide the money for her to stay home playing an MMO 24x7 .
Not raising unfair stereotypes here .
I 've seen it in action .
Lazy fucking people that somehow use their tits to sucker some dumbass into busting his ass at a thankless job while the chick sits around all day playing WoW ( and occasionally meeting guys she met online ) .
I 've seen that enough that I personally would n't ever date a chick that 's really into games or the internet.This study is kind of pointless and obvious .
Like the " men have shorter life spans than women " study .
No shit .
Men have no option but to work non-stop every day of their lives from the day they 're on their own ( or before ) until the day they die .
So plenty of stress .
And on top of that , they tend to have more dangerous jobs .
No cushy relying on someone else to make their ends meet while they chat all day at a salon with the girls or watch oprah while the kids are playing in the yard outside all afternoon after school .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention, men tend to have to work and provide the money for her to stay home playing an MMO 24x7.
Not raising unfair stereotypes here.
I've seen it in action.
Lazy fucking people that somehow use their tits to sucker some dumbass into busting his ass at a thankless job while the chick sits around all day playing WoW (and occasionally meeting guys she met online).
I've seen that enough that I personally wouldn't ever date a chick that's really into games or the internet.This study is kind of pointless and obvious.
Like the "men have shorter life spans than women" study.
No shit.
Men have no option but to work non-stop every day of their lives from the day they're on their own (or before) until the day they die.
So plenty of stress.
And on top of that, they tend to have more dangerous jobs.
No cushy relying on someone else to make their ends meet while they chat all day at a salon with the girls or watch oprah while the kids are playing in the yard outside all afternoon after school.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30542690</id>
	<title>Re:They don't lie...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261650720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>She must have BLAST with City of Heroes... even as a guy, I spend an inordinately long time on the character creation screen designing the look of my toons...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>She must have BLAST with City of Heroes... even as a guy , I spend an inordinately long time on the character creation screen designing the look of my toons.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>She must have BLAST with City of Heroes... even as a guy, I spend an inordinately long time on the character creation screen designing the look of my toons...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540220</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540254</id>
	<title>EQ?!?</title>
	<author>adavies42</author>
	<datestamp>1259758200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone left in EQ is hard-core by definition. Why didn't they study WoW?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone left in EQ is hard-core by definition .
Why did n't they study WoW ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone left in EQ is hard-core by definition.
Why didn't they study WoW?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541186</id>
	<title>Sure.</title>
	<author>Zero\_Independent</author>
	<datestamp>1259766660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If I considered Wow a hardcore game. Wake me up when a chick learns how to play a game that requires skill.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I considered Wow a hardcore game .
Wake me up when a chick learns how to play a game that requires skill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I considered Wow a hardcore game.
Wake me up when a chick learns how to play a game that requires skill.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541776</id>
	<title>Re:Everquest? Maybe a biased sample</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259775720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CCP releases EVE numbers in their EVE Quarterly Economic Report.  It usually hovers somewhere around 95\% male/5\% female.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CCP releases EVE numbers in their EVE Quarterly Economic Report .
It usually hovers somewhere around 95 \ % male/5 \ % female .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CCP releases EVE numbers in their EVE Quarterly Economic Report.
It usually hovers somewhere around 95\% male/5\% female.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541630</id>
	<title>Sample bias?</title>
	<author>TheRealJFM</author>
	<datestamp>1259772900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't there an inherent sample bias in asking only EverQuest players?</p><p>Playing time increases with age? - EverQuest is an old game, and it's players tend to drift towards the hardcore. Anyone still playing it <i>must</i> be really into it. Younger players will probably be turned off - either by the older graphics or the fact they could be playing WoW instead.</p><p>As for the differences between genders, we have to remember that we're not polling the general population. Women gamers who are <i>still playing EverQuest</i> are slightly more hardcore than male players. This might tell us nothing at all about women in general. In fact, I'd bet these stats aren't exactly representative of normal people, or even necessarily "normal" hardcore gamers.</p><p>I'm sure I could go on, but there must be some stats nerds who can go to town on this sort of headline...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't there an inherent sample bias in asking only EverQuest players ? Playing time increases with age ?
- EverQuest is an old game , and it 's players tend to drift towards the hardcore .
Anyone still playing it must be really into it .
Younger players will probably be turned off - either by the older graphics or the fact they could be playing WoW instead.As for the differences between genders , we have to remember that we 're not polling the general population .
Women gamers who are still playing EverQuest are slightly more hardcore than male players .
This might tell us nothing at all about women in general .
In fact , I 'd bet these stats are n't exactly representative of normal people , or even necessarily " normal " hardcore gamers.I 'm sure I could go on , but there must be some stats nerds who can go to town on this sort of headline.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't there an inherent sample bias in asking only EverQuest players?Playing time increases with age?
- EverQuest is an old game, and it's players tend to drift towards the hardcore.
Anyone still playing it must be really into it.
Younger players will probably be turned off - either by the older graphics or the fact they could be playing WoW instead.As for the differences between genders, we have to remember that we're not polling the general population.
Women gamers who are still playing EverQuest are slightly more hardcore than male players.
This might tell us nothing at all about women in general.
In fact, I'd bet these stats aren't exactly representative of normal people, or even necessarily "normal" hardcore gamers.I'm sure I could go on, but there must be some stats nerds who can go to town on this sort of headline...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540520</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not surprised</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259760120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There is <a href="http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/lax/878989144.html" title="craigslist.org" rel="nofollow">previous evidence</a> [craigslist.org] of this..</p></div><p>Seems like she would be the perfect match for <a href="http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/orl/740493470.html" title="craigslist.org" rel="nofollow">this guy</a> [craigslist.org].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is previous evidence [ craigslist.org ] of this..Seems like she would be the perfect match for this guy [ craigslist.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is previous evidence [craigslist.org] of this..Seems like she would be the perfect match for this guy [craigslist.org].
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540208</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540534</id>
	<title>Misleading headline</title>
	<author>BenoitRen</author>
	<datestamp>1259760240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just because girls waste more time on MMOs on average than boys doesn't mean they're more 'hardcore' gamers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just because girls waste more time on MMOs on average than boys does n't mean they 're more 'hardcore ' gamers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just because girls waste more time on MMOs on average than boys doesn't mean they're more 'hardcore' gamers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540220</id>
	<title>They don't lie...</title>
	<author>sadness203</author>
	<datestamp>1259757960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>They don't lie, they just doesn't count the time customizing the color and clothes of their characters which is probably 20 hours a week.*
<br>
Here goes my Karma, down the drain. Should have used the post cowardly !
<br> <br>
* My girlfriend used to do that a lot in everquest and maple story... Actually.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They do n't lie , they just does n't count the time customizing the color and clothes of their characters which is probably 20 hours a week .
* Here goes my Karma , down the drain .
Should have used the post cowardly !
* My girlfriend used to do that a lot in everquest and maple story... Actually .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They don't lie, they just doesn't count the time customizing the color and clothes of their characters which is probably 20 hours a week.
*

Here goes my Karma, down the drain.
Should have used the post cowardly !
* My girlfriend used to do that a lot in everquest and maple story... Actually.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541238</id>
	<title>andfatter ?!?! Grrrrr</title>
	<author>GabriellaKat</author>
	<datestamp>1259767620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"andfatter" is not deserved coming from<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/., home of the neckbearded basement dwellers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" andfatter " is not deserved coming from /. , home of the neckbearded basement dwellers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"andfatter" is not deserved coming from /., home of the neckbearded basement dwellers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541082</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious reason for this.</title>
	<author>dirkdodgers</author>
	<datestamp>1259765700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to the study, most males and females were employed (66.29\% of females, 79.84\% of males).</p><p>However, that is a 13\% gap. Also, there was a large gap between the incomes of males and females who were employed, perhaps in part because they tended to be a secondary income.</p><p>Both of these factors probably account for some of the observed effect of women being disproportionately "hardcore", but not all of it.</p><p>I think the take away is that social gaming can be powerfully addicting to females as well. There probably also something going on with the fact that as many as 20\% of females in the sample were LGBT. What that is would require another study to determine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to the study , most males and females were employed ( 66.29 \ % of females , 79.84 \ % of males ) .However , that is a 13 \ % gap .
Also , there was a large gap between the incomes of males and females who were employed , perhaps in part because they tended to be a secondary income.Both of these factors probably account for some of the observed effect of women being disproportionately " hardcore " , but not all of it.I think the take away is that social gaming can be powerfully addicting to females as well .
There probably also something going on with the fact that as many as 20 \ % of females in the sample were LGBT .
What that is would require another study to determine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to the study, most males and females were employed (66.29\% of females, 79.84\% of males).However, that is a 13\% gap.
Also, there was a large gap between the incomes of males and females who were employed, perhaps in part because they tended to be a secondary income.Both of these factors probably account for some of the observed effect of women being disproportionately "hardcore", but not all of it.I think the take away is that social gaming can be powerfully addicting to females as well.
There probably also something going on with the fact that as many as 20\% of females in the sample were LGBT.
What that is would require another study to determine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30544718</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious reason for this.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261675680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of my "RL" friends is a housewife with 3 small children... and she is online constantly.  HOWEVER, 85\% percent of that time is spent away from the keyboard or in short, sure to be interrupted snatches as she chases the little ones or does housework.  During the day WoW is her IM client of choice...  Only once the kids are in bed for the evening will she do anything time intensive but once the kids are asleep I would count her as one of the most hardcore raiders I know.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of my " RL " friends is a housewife with 3 small children... and she is online constantly .
HOWEVER , 85 \ % percent of that time is spent away from the keyboard or in short , sure to be interrupted snatches as she chases the little ones or does housework .
During the day WoW is her IM client of choice... Only once the kids are in bed for the evening will she do anything time intensive but once the kids are asleep I would count her as one of the most hardcore raiders I know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of my "RL" friends is a housewife with 3 small children... and she is online constantly.
HOWEVER, 85\% percent of that time is spent away from the keyboard or in short, sure to be interrupted snatches as she chases the little ones or does housework.
During the day WoW is her IM client of choice...  Only once the kids are in bed for the evening will she do anything time intensive but once the kids are asleep I would count her as one of the most hardcore raiders I know.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540472</id>
	<title>Everquest? Maybe a biased sample</title>
	<author>shish</author>
	<datestamp>1259759760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Try EVE to balance it out -- I'm pretty sure that that's more male-filled than slashdot even (in a fleet of 500 there was one girl on voice chat; if there were any more out there on text chat they were at least hiding it...)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Try EVE to balance it out -- I 'm pretty sure that that 's more male-filled than slashdot even ( in a fleet of 500 there was one girl on voice chat ; if there were any more out there on text chat they were at least hiding it... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try EVE to balance it out -- I'm pretty sure that that's more male-filled than slashdot even (in a fleet of 500 there was one girl on voice chat; if there were any more out there on text chat they were at least hiding it...)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30546450</id>
	<title>How could they tell</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261687740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How could they tell the females were lying about the amount of time they were playing? Were their mouths moving?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How could they tell the females were lying about the amount of time they were playing ?
Were their mouths moving ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How could they tell the females were lying about the amount of time they were playing?
Were their mouths moving?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540806</id>
	<title>Re:I call Shenanigans.</title>
	<author>jpmorgan</author>
	<datestamp>1259762640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, no girls play RPGs... but a lot of 30-something stay at home mom/housewives whose children are now off to school during the day and are bored play them obsessively.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , no girls play RPGs... but a lot of 30-something stay at home mom/housewives whose children are now off to school during the day and are bored play them obsessively .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, no girls play RPGs... but a lot of 30-something stay at home mom/housewives whose children are now off to school during the day and are bored play them obsessively.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30576758</id>
	<title>Women in my guild do play a lot (WoW)</title>
	<author>MaximvsG</author>
	<datestamp>1262001000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>
The only thing is when they are not raiding or questing they seen to like to chat a lot in pst.  Also, a lot more verbal on vent than most males.  I think it has more of a social aspect to female players.  For the most part, they are good players so meh..</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only thing is when they are not raiding or questing they seen to like to chat a lot in pst .
Also , a lot more verbal on vent than most males .
I think it has more of a social aspect to female players .
For the most part , they are good players so meh. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
The only thing is when they are not raiding or questing they seen to like to chat a lot in pst.
Also, a lot more verbal on vent than most males.
I think it has more of a social aspect to female players.
For the most part, they are good players so meh..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540618</id>
	<title>Re:Of course...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259760960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>umm err this is presuming you are talking about 'girls' rather than 'women' and btw "i play wow" will get that same response of eye rolling OMG I CANT BELIEVE YOU WASTE YOUR TIME ON THAT from folks who think it is a waste of time, and just as much of a shrug from those that dont care.. since its "WoW" and not "the strange thing that only pimple faced geeks play" from years past (and games past)

The fact of the matter is that "hardcore" rather than "plays alot" need a much better definition.. because even people who do not consider themselves gamers.. prolly spend far more time on "casual gaming" than the avg wow player spends in Azeroth.... those 5-20 min sessions of bejeweled, the time spent in farmville/etc, this stuff all adds up.. but none of it makes a "hardcore gamer", hell most of these people probably do not even consider themselves gamers!</htmltext>
<tokenext>umm err this is presuming you are talking about 'girls ' rather than 'women ' and btw " i play wow " will get that same response of eye rolling OMG I CANT BELIEVE YOU WASTE YOUR TIME ON THAT from folks who think it is a waste of time , and just as much of a shrug from those that dont care.. since its " WoW " and not " the strange thing that only pimple faced geeks play " from years past ( and games past ) The fact of the matter is that " hardcore " rather than " plays alot " need a much better definition.. because even people who do not consider themselves gamers.. prolly spend far more time on " casual gaming " than the avg wow player spends in Azeroth.... those 5-20 min sessions of bejeweled , the time spent in farmville/etc , this stuff all adds up.. but none of it makes a " hardcore gamer " , hell most of these people probably do not even consider themselves gamers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>umm err this is presuming you are talking about 'girls' rather than 'women' and btw "i play wow" will get that same response of eye rolling OMG I CANT BELIEVE YOU WASTE YOUR TIME ON THAT from folks who think it is a waste of time, and just as much of a shrug from those that dont care.. since its "WoW" and not "the strange thing that only pimple faced geeks play" from years past (and games past)

The fact of the matter is that "hardcore" rather than "plays alot" need a much better definition.. because even people who do not consider themselves gamers.. prolly spend far more time on "casual gaming" than the avg wow player spends in Azeroth.... those 5-20 min sessions of bejeweled, the time spent in farmville/etc, this stuff all adds up.. but none of it makes a "hardcore gamer", hell most of these people probably do not even consider themselves gamers!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541354</id>
	<title>Of course... totally understandable</title>
	<author>lena\_10326</author>
	<datestamp>1259769180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>If guys spent any more time playing games, they'd not have time left over for their wank sessions. There are only so many hours in the day. Priorities.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If guys spent any more time playing games , they 'd not have time left over for their wank sessions .
There are only so many hours in the day .
Priorities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If guys spent any more time playing games, they'd not have time left over for their wank sessions.
There are only so many hours in the day.
Priorities.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541554</id>
	<title>Re:Misleading headline</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1259772060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>(sexism ON)</p><p>Yeah, it only means they really suck in it because they need to waste so much more time to get to maxlevel and gather all that gear!</p><p>(sexism OFF)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>( sexism ON ) Yeah , it only means they really suck in it because they need to waste so much more time to get to maxlevel and gather all that gear !
( sexism OFF )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(sexism ON)Yeah, it only means they really suck in it because they need to waste so much more time to get to maxlevel and gather all that gear!
(sexism OFF)</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540888</id>
	<title>Re:Hardcore is right...</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1259763420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Awful picky for someone that plays a Druid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Awful picky for someone that plays a Druid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Awful picky for someone that plays a Druid.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30545120</id>
	<title>Re:29 hours per week!</title>
	<author>Grygus</author>
	<datestamp>1261678200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Am I the only one that thinks 29 (or even 25) hours per week spent on an online game is grossly excessive?</p></div><p>Almost certainly not.  You know, when I went through a short phase of being in love with football, it's pretty much all I did.  I read magazines and books about football, I watched high school, college, and pro games on TV (and occasionally in person,) and I played in two leagues simultaneously.  I even played a little soccer and rugby because then I could play football-like sports almost year-round.  I only stopped because I finally tore an ACL and walked around on it for six months, missing a season, and by the time I went to a doctor and got it fixed and rehabbed, the passion had waned.  I played in another couple of leagues but it wasn't the same.</p><p>What's interesting to me is that during those four years, not one person said to me that I needed to "get a life," or suggested that I was wasting my time.  Nobody thought that the time I spent thinking about that game was excessive.  Nobody criticized me even once I'd injured myself.  Why do video games get these kinds of responses, while other pastimes do not?  Note that the complaints are very specific; it's always a problem with the amount of time spent on one thing.  But as much time as I spend gaming now (well in excess of your 25 hour a week mark), it is still less than I spent weekly on football; in addition, it's less intrusive on other peoples' lives, since they don't get dragged out to games, they can watch whatever they want on TV, etc.  Is the problem that I am having fun <i>without you</i>?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one that thinks 29 ( or even 25 ) hours per week spent on an online game is grossly excessive ? Almost certainly not .
You know , when I went through a short phase of being in love with football , it 's pretty much all I did .
I read magazines and books about football , I watched high school , college , and pro games on TV ( and occasionally in person , ) and I played in two leagues simultaneously .
I even played a little soccer and rugby because then I could play football-like sports almost year-round .
I only stopped because I finally tore an ACL and walked around on it for six months , missing a season , and by the time I went to a doctor and got it fixed and rehabbed , the passion had waned .
I played in another couple of leagues but it was n't the same.What 's interesting to me is that during those four years , not one person said to me that I needed to " get a life , " or suggested that I was wasting my time .
Nobody thought that the time I spent thinking about that game was excessive .
Nobody criticized me even once I 'd injured myself .
Why do video games get these kinds of responses , while other pastimes do not ?
Note that the complaints are very specific ; it 's always a problem with the amount of time spent on one thing .
But as much time as I spend gaming now ( well in excess of your 25 hour a week mark ) , it is still less than I spent weekly on football ; in addition , it 's less intrusive on other peoples ' lives , since they do n't get dragged out to games , they can watch whatever they want on TV , etc .
Is the problem that I am having fun without you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one that thinks 29 (or even 25) hours per week spent on an online game is grossly excessive?Almost certainly not.
You know, when I went through a short phase of being in love with football, it's pretty much all I did.
I read magazines and books about football, I watched high school, college, and pro games on TV (and occasionally in person,) and I played in two leagues simultaneously.
I even played a little soccer and rugby because then I could play football-like sports almost year-round.
I only stopped because I finally tore an ACL and walked around on it for six months, missing a season, and by the time I went to a doctor and got it fixed and rehabbed, the passion had waned.
I played in another couple of leagues but it wasn't the same.What's interesting to me is that during those four years, not one person said to me that I needed to "get a life," or suggested that I was wasting my time.
Nobody thought that the time I spent thinking about that game was excessive.
Nobody criticized me even once I'd injured myself.
Why do video games get these kinds of responses, while other pastimes do not?
Note that the complaints are very specific; it's always a problem with the amount of time spent on one thing.
But as much time as I spend gaming now (well in excess of your 25 hour a week mark), it is still less than I spent weekly on football; in addition, it's less intrusive on other peoples' lives, since they don't get dragged out to games, they can watch whatever they want on TV, etc.
Is the problem that I am having fun without you?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540828</id>
	<title>Re:They don't lie...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259762760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Here goes my Karma, down the drain.</p></div></blockquote><p>You are a karma whore.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here goes my Karma , down the drain.You are a karma whore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here goes my Karma, down the drain.You are a karma whore.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540220</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30542456</id>
	<title>Re:EQ?!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261687800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not EQ but EQ2. Big difference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not EQ but EQ2 .
Big difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not EQ but EQ2.
Big difference.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540254</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540276</id>
	<title>People still play EQ2?</title>
	<author>ip\_freely\_2000</author>
	<datestamp>1259758380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whodathunkit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whodathunkit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whodathunkit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540864</id>
	<title>Skip the article; read the actual report</title>
	<author>dirkdodgers</author>
	<datestamp>1259763060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I see Scientific American has about as much to do with science as the History Channel does with History. "60 second news?" I see the author didn't spend more than 60 seconds reading the report.</p><p>Contrary to the article's implication, players in the sample were still overwhelmingly male, and while female players were more likely than male players to be "hardcore", numerically there were still more hardcore male players than hardcore female players.</p><p>There are a number of datapoints in the study that are interesting:<br><a href="http://dmitriwilliams.com/LFGpaperfinal.pdf" title="dmitriwilliams.com">http://dmitriwilliams.com/LFGpaperfinal.pdf</a> [dmitriwilliams.com]</p><p>- The sample was self-selecting. The survey was offered to all players logged in during the sampling window.<br>- Self-reported gender: 80.22\% male, 19.72\% female,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.06\% declined<br>- Self-reported as being employed: 66.29\% of females, 79.84\% of males<br>- Self-reported sexual orientation: Female: 14.15\% Bisexual, 2.28\% Homosexual, 6.4\% Declined; Male: 3.64\% Bisexual, 3.37\% Homosexual, 3.6\% Declined.<br>- Self-reported played with a romantic partner: 61.52\% of females, but only 24.77\% of males</p><p>What I found more interesting was that as many as 22\% of female players were lesbian or bi-sexual, far more than in the general population. This was not mirrored in male players.</p><p>I'll speculate that females playing more hours than males is in some part accounted for by the 13\% employment gap reported between males and females in the sample.</p><p>As to whether to believe the better than average self-reported BMI and exercise numbers from the women in the survey? What, women misrepresent their weight online? Unheard of!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see Scientific American has about as much to do with science as the History Channel does with History .
" 60 second news ?
" I see the author did n't spend more than 60 seconds reading the report.Contrary to the article 's implication , players in the sample were still overwhelmingly male , and while female players were more likely than male players to be " hardcore " , numerically there were still more hardcore male players than hardcore female players.There are a number of datapoints in the study that are interesting : http : //dmitriwilliams.com/LFGpaperfinal.pdf [ dmitriwilliams.com ] - The sample was self-selecting .
The survey was offered to all players logged in during the sampling window.- Self-reported gender : 80.22 \ % male , 19.72 \ % female , .06 \ % declined- Self-reported as being employed : 66.29 \ % of females , 79.84 \ % of males- Self-reported sexual orientation : Female : 14.15 \ % Bisexual , 2.28 \ % Homosexual , 6.4 \ % Declined ; Male : 3.64 \ % Bisexual , 3.37 \ % Homosexual , 3.6 \ % Declined.- Self-reported played with a romantic partner : 61.52 \ % of females , but only 24.77 \ % of malesWhat I found more interesting was that as many as 22 \ % of female players were lesbian or bi-sexual , far more than in the general population .
This was not mirrored in male players.I 'll speculate that females playing more hours than males is in some part accounted for by the 13 \ % employment gap reported between males and females in the sample.As to whether to believe the better than average self-reported BMI and exercise numbers from the women in the survey ?
What , women misrepresent their weight online ?
Unheard of !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see Scientific American has about as much to do with science as the History Channel does with History.
"60 second news?
" I see the author didn't spend more than 60 seconds reading the report.Contrary to the article's implication, players in the sample were still overwhelmingly male, and while female players were more likely than male players to be "hardcore", numerically there were still more hardcore male players than hardcore female players.There are a number of datapoints in the study that are interesting:http://dmitriwilliams.com/LFGpaperfinal.pdf [dmitriwilliams.com]- The sample was self-selecting.
The survey was offered to all players logged in during the sampling window.- Self-reported gender: 80.22\% male, 19.72\% female, .06\% declined- Self-reported as being employed: 66.29\% of females, 79.84\% of males- Self-reported sexual orientation: Female: 14.15\% Bisexual, 2.28\% Homosexual, 6.4\% Declined; Male: 3.64\% Bisexual, 3.37\% Homosexual, 3.6\% Declined.- Self-reported played with a romantic partner: 61.52\% of females, but only 24.77\% of malesWhat I found more interesting was that as many as 22\% of female players were lesbian or bi-sexual, far more than in the general population.
This was not mirrored in male players.I'll speculate that females playing more hours than males is in some part accounted for by the 13\% employment gap reported between males and females in the sample.As to whether to believe the better than average self-reported BMI and exercise numbers from the women in the survey?
What, women misrepresent their weight online?
Unheard of!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30542038</id>
	<title>Of course</title>
	<author>Snaller</author>
	<datestamp>1259779560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The pretty ones are out scoring guys, so the ugly ones might as well score some gold at home<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The pretty ones are out scoring guys , so the ugly ones might as well score some gold at home ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The pretty ones are out scoring guys, so the ugly ones might as well score some gold at home ;)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30543916</id>
	<title>Re:MMORPGs are not hardcore</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261670340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The article means "hardcore" as in sense of time invested, not skill.</p><p>Someone who is capable of one-crediting Ikaruga may just have a natural talent for fast-paced action games, but that does not make that person more "hardcore" than someone who is willing to play the game for 14hours/day, 7days/week.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The article means " hardcore " as in sense of time invested , not skill.Someone who is capable of one-crediting Ikaruga may just have a natural talent for fast-paced action games , but that does not make that person more " hardcore " than someone who is willing to play the game for 14hours/day , 7days/week .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article means "hardcore" as in sense of time invested, not skill.Someone who is capable of one-crediting Ikaruga may just have a natural talent for fast-paced action games, but that does not make that person more "hardcore" than someone who is willing to play the game for 14hours/day, 7days/week.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540834</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540742</id>
	<title>The shut ins</title>
	<author>AHuxley</author>
	<datestamp>1259761980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Become more obsessive, addicted and take interaction more personally.<br>Seems the games are more 'targeted' to induce addiction rather than a recreational escape.<br>
Add in the "personal touch" and social networking and you have a revenue stream, like alcoholic beverages, gambling, smoking ect.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Become more obsessive , addicted and take interaction more personally.Seems the games are more 'targeted ' to induce addiction rather than a recreational escape .
Add in the " personal touch " and social networking and you have a revenue stream , like alcoholic beverages , gambling , smoking ect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Become more obsessive, addicted and take interaction more personally.Seems the games are more 'targeted' to induce addiction rather than a recreational escape.
Add in the "personal touch" and social networking and you have a revenue stream, like alcoholic beverages, gambling, smoking ect.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30542108</id>
	<title>Drinking</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259780760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My wife has been playing all night since I got home from work.  She is more hardcore than me.   Sometimes I feel complete overload.  Computers and code all day at work, games at night.  A wife who plays.  Life in a tiny city apartment. Where is reality anymore?  Sometimes I prefer drinking or just listening to music.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My wife has been playing all night since I got home from work .
She is more hardcore than me .
Sometimes I feel complete overload .
Computers and code all day at work , games at night .
A wife who plays .
Life in a tiny city apartment .
Where is reality anymore ?
Sometimes I prefer drinking or just listening to music .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My wife has been playing all night since I got home from work.
She is more hardcore than me.
Sometimes I feel complete overload.
Computers and code all day at work, games at night.
A wife who plays.
Life in a tiny city apartment.
Where is reality anymore?
Sometimes I prefer drinking or just listening to music.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540322</id>
	<title>But- but-</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259758680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The authors surveyed 7,000 players logged in to EverQuest II</i></p><p><i>female gamers... were also more likely to lie about how much they really play.</i></p><p>Hmm.  Using a survey to determine how honest people are.  Nice.</p><p>Having used the Internet, I'm willing to bet not all of them were honest about their true gender either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The authors surveyed 7,000 players logged in to EverQuest IIfemale gamers... were also more likely to lie about how much they really play.Hmm .
Using a survey to determine how honest people are .
Nice.Having used the Internet , I 'm willing to bet not all of them were honest about their true gender either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The authors surveyed 7,000 players logged in to EverQuest IIfemale gamers... were also more likely to lie about how much they really play.Hmm.
Using a survey to determine how honest people are.
Nice.Having used the Internet, I'm willing to bet not all of them were honest about their true gender either.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541158</id>
	<title>Re:Skip the article; read the actual report</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259766300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>given that the female population of the survey only comprises 1400/7000, that should be low enough to introduce a margin of error that alone could account for the difference in playtime/week.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>given that the female population of the survey only comprises 1400/7000 , that should be low enough to introduce a margin of error that alone could account for the difference in playtime/week .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>given that the female population of the survey only comprises 1400/7000, that should be low enough to introduce a margin of error that alone could account for the difference in playtime/week.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30544920</id>
	<title>Re:boozing is the answer</title>
	<author>HeckRuler</author>
	<datestamp>1261676820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not exactly a boozehound, but I drink now and then. That said, I've mixed booze with games exactly once*, and that was because the social aspect was more important then the game. Does anyone actually go drinking and participate in games where their mental facilities were put to the test? I've heard of chess-boxing, but chess as a drinking game? Nawwwwww.<br> <br>

*darts and pool are the exception, as it's something to do in a bar, and yeah, motor skills suffer.<br>
**And fencing drunk doesn't count either, it's a sport. (btw, our armorer is an undefeated drunken master)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not exactly a boozehound , but I drink now and then .
That said , I 've mixed booze with games exactly once * , and that was because the social aspect was more important then the game .
Does anyone actually go drinking and participate in games where their mental facilities were put to the test ?
I 've heard of chess-boxing , but chess as a drinking game ?
Nawwwwww . * darts and pool are the exception , as it 's something to do in a bar , and yeah , motor skills suffer .
* * And fencing drunk does n't count either , it 's a sport .
( btw , our armorer is an undefeated drunken master )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not exactly a boozehound, but I drink now and then.
That said, I've mixed booze with games exactly once*, and that was because the social aspect was more important then the game.
Does anyone actually go drinking and participate in games where their mental facilities were put to the test?
I've heard of chess-boxing, but chess as a drinking game?
Nawwwwww. 

*darts and pool are the exception, as it's something to do in a bar, and yeah, motor skills suffer.
**And fencing drunk doesn't count either, it's a sport.
(btw, our armorer is an undefeated drunken master)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540246</id>
	<title>Hardcore is right...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259758140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/lax/878989144.html" title="craigslist.org" rel="nofollow">Girl seeking WoW player</a> [craigslist.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Girl seeking WoW player [ craigslist.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Girl seeking WoW player [craigslist.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541390</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not surprised</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1259769660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As I read that linked post, I was just waiting for "I put on my robe and wizard hat". That guy would be perfect for her.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As I read that linked post , I was just waiting for " I put on my robe and wizard hat " .
That guy would be perfect for her .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As I read that linked post, I was just waiting for "I put on my robe and wizard hat".
That guy would be perfect for her.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540208</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541404</id>
	<title>Ohhhh!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259769900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>so those are girls trash talking, not whiny little 10 year old boys.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>so those are girls trash talking , not whiny little 10 year old boys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so those are girls trash talking, not whiny little 10 year old boys.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540222</id>
	<title>I call Shenanigans.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259757960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obligatory, of course, but everyone knows there are no girls in MMORPG's. The only RPG's a girl has been known to play, EVER, has been Final Fantasy, and they all claim that Sepheroth is pretty.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obligatory , of course , but everyone knows there are no girls in MMORPG 's .
The only RPG 's a girl has been known to play , EVER , has been Final Fantasy , and they all claim that Sepheroth is pretty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obligatory, of course, but everyone knows there are no girls in MMORPG's.
The only RPG's a girl has been known to play, EVER, has been Final Fantasy, and they all claim that Sepheroth is pretty.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30543578</id>
	<title>Very true for my life</title>
	<author>rocket97</author>
	<datestamp>1261667700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My Fiancee and I both play Warcraft and she spends about twice as much time on it as I do.  She has even been known to be "sick" and call into work to play.  I have asked her several times about her playing time and she drastically understates how much she plays.  I am not sure if she is intentionally fudging the numbers or if she does not realize how much she plays.  However I feel blessed for having found a gamer future wife so I know she will not nag at me for "playing that stupid game again."</htmltext>
<tokenext>My Fiancee and I both play Warcraft and she spends about twice as much time on it as I do .
She has even been known to be " sick " and call into work to play .
I have asked her several times about her playing time and she drastically understates how much she plays .
I am not sure if she is intentionally fudging the numbers or if she does not realize how much she plays .
However I feel blessed for having found a gamer future wife so I know she will not nag at me for " playing that stupid game again .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Fiancee and I both play Warcraft and she spends about twice as much time on it as I do.
She has even been known to be "sick" and call into work to play.
I have asked her several times about her playing time and she drastically understates how much she plays.
I am not sure if she is intentionally fudging the numbers or if she does not realize how much she plays.
However I feel blessed for having found a gamer future wife so I know she will not nag at me for "playing that stupid game again.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30603104</id>
	<title>Re:Of course... totally understandable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259864940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If guys spent any more time playing games, they'd not have time left over for their wank sessions.</p></div></blockquote><p>Hey now! They built an entire industry around <a href="http://www.livejasmin.com/listpage.php?tags=girl" title="livejasmin.com" rel="nofollow">girls wanking in-front of their computers</a> [livejasmin.com]!</p><p>Brick - meet glass house<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If guys spent any more time playing games , they 'd not have time left over for their wank sessions.Hey now !
They built an entire industry around girls wanking in-front of their computers [ livejasmin.com ] ! Brick - meet glass house ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If guys spent any more time playing games, they'd not have time left over for their wank sessions.Hey now!
They built an entire industry around girls wanking in-front of their computers [livejasmin.com]!Brick - meet glass house ;)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30541354</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540452</id>
	<title>Of course...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259759700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Of course more girl gamers are going to be more "hardcore" than male gamers. Why? Because its not as socially acceptable to casually play hardcore games as a girl. For example, if a guy says "I play WoW" most people would shrug it off, whereas it could be a lot more damaging socially for a girl to say that they played WoW. Because of this only girls who really like WoW and similar games will really play them and for males most of the time they aren't as "hardcore" because there is a lot more males who play and some are casual and some are hardcore. Females would almost all be hardcore gamers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course more girl gamers are going to be more " hardcore " than male gamers .
Why ? Because its not as socially acceptable to casually play hardcore games as a girl .
For example , if a guy says " I play WoW " most people would shrug it off , whereas it could be a lot more damaging socially for a girl to say that they played WoW .
Because of this only girls who really like WoW and similar games will really play them and for males most of the time they are n't as " hardcore " because there is a lot more males who play and some are casual and some are hardcore .
Females would almost all be hardcore gamers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course more girl gamers are going to be more "hardcore" than male gamers.
Why? Because its not as socially acceptable to casually play hardcore games as a girl.
For example, if a guy says "I play WoW" most people would shrug it off, whereas it could be a lot more damaging socially for a girl to say that they played WoW.
Because of this only girls who really like WoW and similar games will really play them and for males most of the time they aren't as "hardcore" because there is a lot more males who play and some are casual and some are hardcore.
Females would almost all be hardcore gamers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540886</id>
	<title>Re:Hardcore is right...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259763360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Female, 5'8" and 150 lbs?  Yeah, about what I would expect from a hardcore girl gamer.</p><p><a href="http://www.gamegirladvance.com/archives/2002/10/26/sex\_in\_games\_rezvibrator.html" title="gamegirladvance.com" rel="nofollow">This</a> [gamegirladvance.com] is more the body type I would prefer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Female , 5'8 " and 150 lbs ?
Yeah , about what I would expect from a hardcore girl gamer.This [ gamegirladvance.com ] is more the body type I would prefer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Female, 5'8" and 150 lbs?
Yeah, about what I would expect from a hardcore girl gamer.This [gamegirladvance.com] is more the body type I would prefer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30540246</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_2228258.30543940</id>
	<title>Re:I can't take girl gamers seriously</title>
	<author>Kungpaoshizi</author>
	<datestamp>1261670520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree totally!
I don't care if you're a girl, shut up about your BS irl, and do what you logged on to do, play the freakin game.

I hate that about women, especially when there's voice chat involved...

They in turn get the loser guys going, then all of a sudden everything is about this bi$h who joined voice chat.

IF YOU GIRLS WANT TO BE WELCOMED IN A GAMING COMMUNITY, S.T.F.U. AND PLAY THE GAME, DON'T CHAT.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree totally !
I do n't care if you 're a girl , shut up about your BS irl , and do what you logged on to do , play the freakin game .
I hate that about women , especially when there 's voice chat involved.. . They in turn get the loser guys going , then all of a sudden everything is about this bi $ h who joined voice chat .
IF YOU GIRLS WANT TO BE WELCOMED IN A GAMING COMMUNITY , S.T.F.U .
AND PLAY THE GAME , DO N'T CHAT .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree totally!
I don't care if you're a girl, shut up about your BS irl, and do what you logged on to do, play the freakin game.
I hate that about women, especially when there's voice chat involved...

They in turn get the loser guys going, then all of a sudden everything is about this bi$h who joined voice chat.
IF YOU GIRLS WANT TO BE WELCOMED IN A GAMING COMMUNITY, S.T.F.U.
AND PLAY THE GAME, DON'T CHAT.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Bad summary</title>
	<author>kimvette</author>
	<datestamp>1259772900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>The summary and article misspelled "evercrack"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The summary and article misspelled " evercrack " ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The summary and article misspelled "evercrack" ;)</sentencetext>
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