<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_23_1326249</id>
	<title>BlackBerry Outages Across North America</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1261577100000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>TheHappyMailAdmin writes <i>"<a href="http://crackberry.com/blackberry-messenger-fritz">BlackBerry service in North America is out</a>: no email, no BB Messenger and no web browsing.  Last carrier estimate I got was 24 hours until service will be restored, with others saying they've gotten estimates from support from between 3 hours to 2 days.  BES and BIS services are impacted, and it's across all carriers.  Bad timing for RIM as people are wrapping up their holiday shopping..."</i> <strong>Updated 18:11 GMT by timothy: </strong> Reader notheusualsuspect pings with a note that the <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/news/2009-12-23/blackberry-service-is-restored-as-rim-releases-new-software.html">service has been restored</a>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>TheHappyMailAdmin writes " BlackBerry service in North America is out : no email , no BB Messenger and no web browsing .
Last carrier estimate I got was 24 hours until service will be restored , with others saying they 've gotten estimates from support from between 3 hours to 2 days .
BES and BIS services are impacted , and it 's across all carriers .
Bad timing for RIM as people are wrapping up their holiday shopping... " Updated 18 : 11 GMT by timothy : Reader notheusualsuspect pings with a note that the service has been restored .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TheHappyMailAdmin writes "BlackBerry service in North America is out: no email, no BB Messenger and no web browsing.
Last carrier estimate I got was 24 hours until service will be restored, with others saying they've gotten estimates from support from between 3 hours to 2 days.
BES and BIS services are impacted, and it's across all carriers.
Bad timing for RIM as people are wrapping up their holiday shopping..." Updated 18:11 GMT by timothy:  Reader notheusualsuspect pings with a note that the service has been restored.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534724</id>
	<title>Christmas Shopping now? Um... No.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259766540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who does online Christmas Shopping on the 23rd? There's no time for delivery, and it's just mean to do to the poor FedEx/UPS carriers. Give the poor guys a break and order ahead of time. 'Sides, if you're going to give a gift after Christmas, prices are better after the holidays. So you might as well wait...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who does online Christmas Shopping on the 23rd ?
There 's no time for delivery , and it 's just mean to do to the poor FedEx/UPS carriers .
Give the poor guys a break and order ahead of time .
'Sides , if you 're going to give a gift after Christmas , prices are better after the holidays .
So you might as well wait.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who does online Christmas Shopping on the 23rd?
There's no time for delivery, and it's just mean to do to the poor FedEx/UPS carriers.
Give the poor guys a break and order ahead of time.
'Sides, if you're going to give a gift after Christmas, prices are better after the holidays.
So you might as well wait...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30539354</id>
	<title>Re:Central point of failure..</title>
	<author>SlashDev</author>
	<datestamp>1259751780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well for one, proxy servers are what they are, proxies. Meaning if BB were to change their server IPs or network architecture, you shouldn't be affected.
Proxies are also used to 'hide' real equipment behind them, for security reasons mainly.
Proxies can also do content filtering as well as man other tasks that application specific servers wouldn't be able to, either for resource saving or platform restrictions.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well for one , proxy servers are what they are , proxies .
Meaning if BB were to change their server IPs or network architecture , you should n't be affected .
Proxies are also used to 'hide ' real equipment behind them , for security reasons mainly .
Proxies can also do content filtering as well as man other tasks that application specific servers would n't be able to , either for resource saving or platform restrictions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well for one, proxy servers are what they are, proxies.
Meaning if BB were to change their server IPs or network architecture, you shouldn't be affected.
Proxies are also used to 'hide' real equipment behind them, for security reasons mainly.
Proxies can also do content filtering as well as man other tasks that application specific servers wouldn't be able to, either for resource saving or platform restrictions.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534906</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535018</id>
	<title>I blame bing!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259768340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well I got my BIS service back today, and it looks like they pushed a bing! app out. Coincidence? I think not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well I got my BIS service back today , and it looks like they pushed a bing !
app out .
Coincidence ? I think not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well I got my BIS service back today, and it looks like they pushed a bing!
app out.
Coincidence? I think not.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535624</id>
	<title>No problems with my "Curve" on Verizon..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259772060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use Opera mini as my browser and have the gmail app for my email and calendar. That seems to avoid these problems. I've had my BB for almost a year now and like it a lot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Opera mini as my browser and have the gmail app for my email and calendar .
That seems to avoid these problems .
I 've had my BB for almost a year now and like it a lot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Opera mini as my browser and have the gmail app for my email and calendar.
That seems to avoid these problems.
I've had my BB for almost a year now and like it a lot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30536426</id>
	<title>Is it just me?</title>
	<author>gregarican</author>
	<datestamp>1259776860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or are Blackberrys the equivalent of the Palm Pilots of years gone by? A hardware platform that at the time was innovative and ground-breaking, only to be surpassed by the next wave of competing devices. Most of the people I know with a Blackberry are a few fries short of a Happy Meal when it comes to technology. So perhaps that's the right device for them. But with other alternatives out there why settle for one that's also bundled with a somewhat-unreliable back end infrastructure?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or are Blackberrys the equivalent of the Palm Pilots of years gone by ?
A hardware platform that at the time was innovative and ground-breaking , only to be surpassed by the next wave of competing devices .
Most of the people I know with a Blackberry are a few fries short of a Happy Meal when it comes to technology .
So perhaps that 's the right device for them .
But with other alternatives out there why settle for one that 's also bundled with a somewhat-unreliable back end infrastructure ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or are Blackberrys the equivalent of the Palm Pilots of years gone by?
A hardware platform that at the time was innovative and ground-breaking, only to be surpassed by the next wave of competing devices.
Most of the people I know with a Blackberry are a few fries short of a Happy Meal when it comes to technology.
So perhaps that's the right device for them.
But with other alternatives out there why settle for one that's also bundled with a somewhat-unreliable back end infrastructure?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535764</id>
	<title>Perhaps he's TOO Happy...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259772960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TheHappyMailAdmin writes<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>My Blackberry seems to be working fine.   Perhaps the Happy Mail admin has been indulging in Christmas Cheer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TheHappyMailAdmin writes ...My Blackberry seems to be working fine .
Perhaps the Happy Mail admin has been indulging in Christmas Cheer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TheHappyMailAdmin writes ...My Blackberry seems to be working fine.
Perhaps the Happy Mail admin has been indulging in Christmas Cheer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30539376</id>
	<title>Re:Central point of failure..</title>
	<author>SlashDev</author>
	<datestamp>1259751900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can Droid sync with an Exchange server? Just curious...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can Droid sync with an Exchange server ?
Just curious.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can Droid sync with an Exchange server?
Just curious...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534906</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30536014</id>
	<title>Re:And yet...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259774460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, mine works as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , mine works as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, mine works as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535140</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30540338</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1259758800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...you say, posting on Slashdot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...you say , posting on Slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...you say, posting on Slashdot.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30539156</id>
	<title>Typically</title>
	<author>physburn</author>
	<datestamp>1259750220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I finally upgrade to a blackberry compatible phone, and network
goes down, to welcome me.
<p>
---
</p><p>
<a href="http://www.feeddistiller.com/blogs/Mobile\%20Phones/feed.html" title="feeddistiller.com">Mobile Phone</a> [feeddistiller.com] Feed @ <a href="http://www.feeddistiller.com/" title="feeddistiller.com">Feed Distiller</a> [feeddistiller.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I finally upgrade to a blackberry compatible phone , and network goes down , to welcome me .
--- Mobile Phone [ feeddistiller.com ] Feed @ Feed Distiller [ feeddistiller.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I finally upgrade to a blackberry compatible phone, and network
goes down, to welcome me.
---

Mobile Phone [feeddistiller.com] Feed @ Feed Distiller [feeddistiller.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535044</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259768520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought it were Kyocera users.  No day goes by without me I'm in an elevator and one of them jerks walking in and holding the door open while they finish their call.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought it were Kyocera users .
No day goes by without me I 'm in an elevator and one of them jerks walking in and holding the door open while they finish their call .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought it were Kyocera users.
No day goes by without me I'm in an elevator and one of them jerks walking in and holding the door open while they finish their call.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534734</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534776</id>
	<title>One wonders...</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1259766780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>How long RIM's model of interposing their own(seemingly rather unstable) services lasts.<br> <br>

Obviously, when the carrier has some major fuckup, email/web aren't going to happen because the packets are being routed to their deaths, like so many binary lemmings, somewhere within the series of tubes.<br> <br>

RIM's presence in the loop, though, seems like an increasingly useless liability. Back when Blackberries were little more than pagers, in terms of hardware spec, RIM's service made sense. Now, though, phones are powerful enough to speak the same protocols as computers. Why, if my carrier is passing packets properly, and my mailserver is up, should RIM be standing in the middle?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How long RIM 's model of interposing their own ( seemingly rather unstable ) services lasts .
Obviously , when the carrier has some major fuckup , email/web are n't going to happen because the packets are being routed to their deaths , like so many binary lemmings , somewhere within the series of tubes .
RIM 's presence in the loop , though , seems like an increasingly useless liability .
Back when Blackberries were little more than pagers , in terms of hardware spec , RIM 's service made sense .
Now , though , phones are powerful enough to speak the same protocols as computers .
Why , if my carrier is passing packets properly , and my mailserver is up , should RIM be standing in the middle ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How long RIM's model of interposing their own(seemingly rather unstable) services lasts.
Obviously, when the carrier has some major fuckup, email/web aren't going to happen because the packets are being routed to their deaths, like so many binary lemmings, somewhere within the series of tubes.
RIM's presence in the loop, though, seems like an increasingly useless liability.
Back when Blackberries were little more than pagers, in terms of hardware spec, RIM's service made sense.
Now, though, phones are powerful enough to speak the same protocols as computers.
Why, if my carrier is passing packets properly, and my mailserver is up, should RIM be standing in the middle?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30542056</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259779860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Take your Karma and shove it, I'm A BB user who wears jeans and drives an S-10 You are a douchebag for that post and may Santa fly right by your friggin' house this year....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Take your Karma and shove it , I 'm A BB user who wears jeans and drives an S-10 You are a douchebag for that post and may Santa fly right by your friggin ' house this year... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take your Karma and shove it, I'm A BB user who wears jeans and drives an S-10 You are a douchebag for that post and may Santa fly right by your friggin' house this year....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534734</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535730</id>
	<title>Re:IT Needs to Learn from TV</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259772780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>+1 most insightful slashdot post ever.</p><p>This is why IT gets no respect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>+ 1 most insightful slashdot post ever.This is why IT gets no respect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>+1 most insightful slashdot post ever.This is why IT gets no respect.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534972</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535356</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259770380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, they are almost offensive as technology class warriors who criticize them in a futile attempt to feel better about themselves...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , they are almost offensive as technology class warriors who criticize them in a futile attempt to feel better about themselves.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, they are almost offensive as technology class warriors who criticize them in a futile attempt to feel better about themselves...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534734</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30536180</id>
	<title>Re:IT Needs to Learn from TV</title>
	<author>fermion</author>
	<datestamp>1259775660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or just unfortunate luck.  I recall when a TV station in my area was off for months when an antennae fell over.  As it is a day or two of outages is not unheard of.
<p>
But broadcast tv is not the best example, cable is.  The primary reason that I do not have cable is that the reliability was crap, and all too often something happened on a holiday weekend.  99\% reliability was not good enough.
</p><p>
I think that blackberry simply knows it has a captive market.  There is nothing that offers the control freaks equal levels.  It is a wonder that MS was never able to provide an equal solution, given they essentially did it on the desktop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or just unfortunate luck .
I recall when a TV station in my area was off for months when an antennae fell over .
As it is a day or two of outages is not unheard of .
But broadcast tv is not the best example , cable is .
The primary reason that I do not have cable is that the reliability was crap , and all too often something happened on a holiday weekend .
99 \ % reliability was not good enough .
I think that blackberry simply knows it has a captive market .
There is nothing that offers the control freaks equal levels .
It is a wonder that MS was never able to provide an equal solution , given they essentially did it on the desktop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or just unfortunate luck.
I recall when a TV station in my area was off for months when an antennae fell over.
As it is a day or two of outages is not unheard of.
But broadcast tv is not the best example, cable is.
The primary reason that I do not have cable is that the reliability was crap, and all too often something happened on a holiday weekend.
99\% reliability was not good enough.
I think that blackberry simply knows it has a captive market.
There is nothing that offers the control freaks equal levels.
It is a wonder that MS was never able to provide an equal solution, given they essentially did it on the desktop.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534972</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535100</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>vishbar</author>
	<datestamp>1259768880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Same here. I got a flood of messages circa 3am EST</htmltext>
<tokenext>Same here .
I got a flood of messages circa 3am EST</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same here.
I got a flood of messages circa 3am EST</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534952</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>sakdoctor</author>
	<datestamp>1259767860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd like to see a medium-long facebook outage.<br>Certain hardcore users would get physical withdraw symptoms, coma, then death.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to see a medium-long facebook outage.Certain hardcore users would get physical withdraw symptoms , coma , then death .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to see a medium-long facebook outage.Certain hardcore users would get physical withdraw symptoms, coma, then death.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535114</id>
	<title>Re:Central point of failure..</title>
	<author>emilyridesabmx</author>
	<datestamp>1259769000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The main reason I keep my Blackberry is the Pin/Blackberry messaging feature. You can contact anyone else with a Blackberry for free, anywhere you are. I travel a lot for work, to multiple countries, and the messenger feature is essential for staying in touch with the people I work with, scheduling,sharing documents and calendars. Even when I can't get a decent enough signal to push email, I can send pins.

I think that's the one feature that makes it indispensable for some people.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The main reason I keep my Blackberry is the Pin/Blackberry messaging feature .
You can contact anyone else with a Blackberry for free , anywhere you are .
I travel a lot for work , to multiple countries , and the messenger feature is essential for staying in touch with the people I work with , scheduling,sharing documents and calendars .
Even when I ca n't get a decent enough signal to push email , I can send pins .
I think that 's the one feature that makes it indispensable for some people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The main reason I keep my Blackberry is the Pin/Blackberry messaging feature.
You can contact anyone else with a Blackberry for free, anywhere you are.
I travel a lot for work, to multiple countries, and the messenger feature is essential for staying in touch with the people I work with, scheduling,sharing documents and calendars.
Even when I can't get a decent enough signal to push email, I can send pins.
I think that's the one feature that makes it indispensable for some people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534906</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535632</id>
	<title>Re:A blackberry outage? Oh my!</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1259772120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, show me the way<br>
To the next signal bar<br>
Oh, don't ask why<br>
Oh, don't ask why<br>
<br>

Show me the way<br>
To the next signal bar<br>
Oh, don't ask why<br>
Oh, don't ask why<br>
<br>
For if we don't find<br>
The next signal bar<br>
I tell you we must die<br>
I tell you we must die<br>
I tell you, I tell you<br>
I tell you we must die</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , show me the way To the next signal bar Oh , do n't ask why Oh , do n't ask why Show me the way To the next signal bar Oh , do n't ask why Oh , do n't ask why For if we do n't find The next signal bar I tell you we must die I tell you we must die I tell you , I tell you I tell you we must die</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, show me the way
To the next signal bar
Oh, don't ask why
Oh, don't ask why


Show me the way
To the next signal bar
Oh, don't ask why
Oh, don't ask why

For if we don't find
The next signal bar
I tell you we must die
I tell you we must die
I tell you, I tell you
I tell you we must die</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534894</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535454</id>
	<title>Re:And yet...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259770980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>but evidently not RTFA or you would have read that the outage was already over.</htmltext>
<tokenext>but evidently not RTFA or you would have read that the outage was already over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but evidently not RTFA or you would have read that the outage was already over.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535140</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30536328</id>
	<title>Outage? For Serius?</title>
	<author>lot3k</author>
	<datestamp>1259776440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Funny thing.  I received the RIM server outage notification from my blackberry. Then I looked for news reports about it via my phone's browser.

I then sent some BBMs to my friends and co-workers to test the service.  I did experience a 10 minute hiccup in service last night around 5 to 6 cst, however it was just that, a hiccup.

BBs are great corporate phones, and that's the reason I have one.  What's with all the hate?  Most wouldn't classify me as a corporate whore, but I consider my blackberry an indispensible tool for completing my job and maintaining connectivity.  I work infrastructural IT in an enterprise environment, I can't really afford to not know what is going on. I've been through various smartphones before finally caving and going to BB.  I've got to say, with a BES in place, the constant VPN like connection is a god send.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny thing .
I received the RIM server outage notification from my blackberry .
Then I looked for news reports about it via my phone 's browser .
I then sent some BBMs to my friends and co-workers to test the service .
I did experience a 10 minute hiccup in service last night around 5 to 6 cst , however it was just that , a hiccup .
BBs are great corporate phones , and that 's the reason I have one .
What 's with all the hate ?
Most would n't classify me as a corporate whore , but I consider my blackberry an indispensible tool for completing my job and maintaining connectivity .
I work infrastructural IT in an enterprise environment , I ca n't really afford to not know what is going on .
I 've been through various smartphones before finally caving and going to BB .
I 've got to say , with a BES in place , the constant VPN like connection is a god send .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny thing.
I received the RIM server outage notification from my blackberry.
Then I looked for news reports about it via my phone's browser.
I then sent some BBMs to my friends and co-workers to test the service.
I did experience a 10 minute hiccup in service last night around 5 to 6 cst, however it was just that, a hiccup.
BBs are great corporate phones, and that's the reason I have one.
What's with all the hate?
Most wouldn't classify me as a corporate whore, but I consider my blackberry an indispensible tool for completing my job and maintaining connectivity.
I work infrastructural IT in an enterprise environment, I can't really afford to not know what is going on.
I've been through various smartphones before finally caving and going to BB.
I've got to say, with a BES in place, the constant VPN like connection is a god send.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535366</id>
	<title>Mine has been working fine all day</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259770440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a Storm on Verizon, and it's been working fine all morning. Email is being pushed and Gmail is working fine... you sure it's not just your carrier or segment?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Storm on Verizon , and it 's been working fine all morning .
Email is being pushed and Gmail is working fine... you sure it 's not just your carrier or segment ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Storm on Verizon, and it's been working fine all morning.
Email is being pushed and Gmail is working fine... you sure it's not just your carrier or segment?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30537930</id>
	<title>Coupe of things...</title>
	<author>Khue</author>
	<datestamp>1259785740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I manage both iPhones and BES at an office of about 100 devices. Here are a couple small anecdotes about the 2 technologies:

1)iPhone support was an after thought in Exchange or at most, an added feature for Exchange 03. This doesn't really make me feel too confident in the technology.
2)iPhone remote wipe feature does not always work for some reason.
3)iPhones have huge hard drives and give people opportunities to save content to the local device. There are no hard disk encryption technologies that I know of that support the iPhone. The amount of data you could grab from a company then jump off the cell phone grid is unsettling
4)Crackberries have policies, controls, filtering options etc that sys admins love to see.
5)Crackberries are corporate issued in most instances. Corporate assets given to individual users do not get the same respect as hardware bought by the users. I have yet to see a company start giving out iPhones as a policy. This being stated, I tend to think people treat Crackberries with a lot less respect then iPhones.
6)End to end encryption
7)Support that is not based on the whim of Microsoft.
I could go on forever. People that use cellphones for personal and not work related matters and do not have significant knowledge of back end processes and phone management will never get blackberries and last time I checked, no one who uses a blackberry in the manner it was supposed to be used ever really wanted anything more then a blackberry.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I manage both iPhones and BES at an office of about 100 devices .
Here are a couple small anecdotes about the 2 technologies : 1 ) iPhone support was an after thought in Exchange or at most , an added feature for Exchange 03 .
This does n't really make me feel too confident in the technology .
2 ) iPhone remote wipe feature does not always work for some reason .
3 ) iPhones have huge hard drives and give people opportunities to save content to the local device .
There are no hard disk encryption technologies that I know of that support the iPhone .
The amount of data you could grab from a company then jump off the cell phone grid is unsettling 4 ) Crackberries have policies , controls , filtering options etc that sys admins love to see .
5 ) Crackberries are corporate issued in most instances .
Corporate assets given to individual users do not get the same respect as hardware bought by the users .
I have yet to see a company start giving out iPhones as a policy .
This being stated , I tend to think people treat Crackberries with a lot less respect then iPhones .
6 ) End to end encryption 7 ) Support that is not based on the whim of Microsoft .
I could go on forever .
People that use cellphones for personal and not work related matters and do not have significant knowledge of back end processes and phone management will never get blackberries and last time I checked , no one who uses a blackberry in the manner it was supposed to be used ever really wanted anything more then a blackberry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I manage both iPhones and BES at an office of about 100 devices.
Here are a couple small anecdotes about the 2 technologies:

1)iPhone support was an after thought in Exchange or at most, an added feature for Exchange 03.
This doesn't really make me feel too confident in the technology.
2)iPhone remote wipe feature does not always work for some reason.
3)iPhones have huge hard drives and give people opportunities to save content to the local device.
There are no hard disk encryption technologies that I know of that support the iPhone.
The amount of data you could grab from a company then jump off the cell phone grid is unsettling
4)Crackberries have policies, controls, filtering options etc that sys admins love to see.
5)Crackberries are corporate issued in most instances.
Corporate assets given to individual users do not get the same respect as hardware bought by the users.
I have yet to see a company start giving out iPhones as a policy.
This being stated, I tend to think people treat Crackberries with a lot less respect then iPhones.
6)End to end encryption
7)Support that is not based on the whim of Microsoft.
I could go on forever.
People that use cellphones for personal and not work related matters and do not have significant knowledge of back end processes and phone management will never get blackberries and last time I checked, no one who uses a blackberry in the manner it was supposed to be used ever really wanted anything more then a blackberry.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535016</id>
	<title>uh</title>
	<author>ZenDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1259768340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is this still a problem? My blackberry is working fine... I havnt had any problems all day or yesterday and I've been on it hourly at the least.  In fact it almost seems to be faster right now than it has been in a long time! Maybe thats because everybody else is out! haha In any case, I have t-mobile.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this still a problem ?
My blackberry is working fine... I havnt had any problems all day or yesterday and I 've been on it hourly at the least .
In fact it almost seems to be faster right now than it has been in a long time !
Maybe thats because everybody else is out !
haha In any case , I have t-mobile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this still a problem?
My blackberry is working fine... I havnt had any problems all day or yesterday and I've been on it hourly at the least.
In fact it almost seems to be faster right now than it has been in a long time!
Maybe thats because everybody else is out!
haha In any case, I have t-mobile.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30537348</id>
	<title>yeah you can post but</title>
	<author>commodoresloat</author>
	<datestamp>1259782140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's see you reply in thread...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's see you reply in thread.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's see you reply in thread...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535140</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30536836</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>radish</author>
	<datestamp>1259779260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So given that I carry both an iPhone (personal) and a BB (work) - what does that make me? I don't wear a suit, or talk loudly, or drive an American car. I also don't live in Brooklyn, don't drink latte, am not a vegetarian and don't listen to "world"<br>
&nbsp; music. Any other awesome stereotypes you'd like to throw around?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So given that I carry both an iPhone ( personal ) and a BB ( work ) - what does that make me ?
I do n't wear a suit , or talk loudly , or drive an American car .
I also do n't live in Brooklyn , do n't drink latte , am not a vegetarian and do n't listen to " world "   music .
Any other awesome stereotypes you 'd like to throw around ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So given that I carry both an iPhone (personal) and a BB (work) - what does that make me?
I don't wear a suit, or talk loudly, or drive an American car.
I also don't live in Brooklyn, don't drink latte, am not a vegetarian and don't listen to "world"
  music.
Any other awesome stereotypes you'd like to throw around?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534734</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534812</id>
	<title>Re:Christmas Shopping now? Um... No.</title>
	<author>charliebear</author>
	<datestamp>1259767020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, Blackberry has been advertising frequently lately, and if you were thinking of buying one for a Christmas present, and hear about the outage.... maybe you reconsider.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , Blackberry has been advertising frequently lately , and if you were thinking of buying one for a Christmas present , and hear about the outage.... maybe you reconsider .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, Blackberry has been advertising frequently lately, and if you were thinking of buying one for a Christmas present, and hear about the outage.... maybe you reconsider.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534724</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534894</id>
	<title>A blackberry outage?  Oh my!</title>
	<author>ratnerstar</author>
	<datestamp>1259767560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Crap, no work emails on Christmas Eve?  Whatever shall we do?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Crap , no work emails on Christmas Eve ?
Whatever shall we do ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Crap, no work emails on Christmas Eve?
Whatever shall we do?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30537324</id>
	<title>you laugh but</title>
	<author>commodoresloat</author>
	<datestamp>1259782020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Santa and the elves are all on BlackBerries.  They love the push email features.  Now how the hell are they going to coordinate all those late night pickups and dropoffs?  And Mrs. Claus won't be getting her usual midnight sexts via BBM this year.  This is truly a crisis.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Santa and the elves are all on BlackBerries .
They love the push email features .
Now how the hell are they going to coordinate all those late night pickups and dropoffs ?
And Mrs. Claus wo n't be getting her usual midnight sexts via BBM this year .
This is truly a crisis .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Santa and the elves are all on BlackBerries.
They love the push email features.
Now how the hell are they going to coordinate all those late night pickups and dropoffs?
And Mrs. Claus won't be getting her usual midnight sexts via BBM this year.
This is truly a crisis.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534894</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535912</id>
	<title>The End of the...?</title>
	<author>SumterLiving</author>
	<datestamp>1259773980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does anyone out there think this should be a non-story?  Is this an end of the world event that some people cannot text or browse the web on their cell phone for 24 whole hours?  Geez, in the last 10 years I have had 3 or more instances where I lost power to my house for 8 hours or more.  I have had at least 6 instances where I lost all water to my house for at least 12 hours (bad water system).  And I never saw more than a few lines in the local newspaper about these highly inconvenient  events.  Yeah, I understand that lack of electrical power or water is not quite as dramatic as losing my ability to send a text message but really!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone out there think this should be a non-story ?
Is this an end of the world event that some people can not text or browse the web on their cell phone for 24 whole hours ?
Geez , in the last 10 years I have had 3 or more instances where I lost power to my house for 8 hours or more .
I have had at least 6 instances where I lost all water to my house for at least 12 hours ( bad water system ) .
And I never saw more than a few lines in the local newspaper about these highly inconvenient events .
Yeah , I understand that lack of electrical power or water is not quite as dramatic as losing my ability to send a text message but really !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone out there think this should be a non-story?
Is this an end of the world event that some people cannot text or browse the web on their cell phone for 24 whole hours?
Geez, in the last 10 years I have had 3 or more instances where I lost power to my house for 8 hours or more.
I have had at least 6 instances where I lost all water to my house for at least 12 hours (bad water system).
And I never saw more than a few lines in the local newspaper about these highly inconvenient  events.
Yeah, I understand that lack of electrical power or water is not quite as dramatic as losing my ability to send a text message but really!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30540368</id>
	<title>Re:failure modes ..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259759040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are already multiple levels of redundancy, but even more being rolled out in the spring.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are already multiple levels of redundancy , but even more being rolled out in the spring .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are already multiple levels of redundancy, but even more being rolled out in the spring.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535626</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535006</id>
	<title>SMTP/POP/IMAP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259768280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the meantime, the worldwide SMTP / POP / IMAP still works fine and serves millions (if not billions) of users with standards-based protocols.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the meantime , the worldwide SMTP / POP / IMAP still works fine and serves millions ( if not billions ) of users with standards-based protocols .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the meantime, the worldwide SMTP / POP / IMAP still works fine and serves millions (if not billions) of users with standards-based protocols.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534870</id>
	<title>Re:Christmas Shopping now? Um... No.</title>
	<author>timeOday</author>
	<datestamp>1259767320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The vast majority of BB users are business users and many people are already on Christmas vacation, so I'd say the 23rd of Dec. is a very lucky time to have such a severe outage.  Unless you're a BB engineer who must work around the clock until it's fixed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The vast majority of BB users are business users and many people are already on Christmas vacation , so I 'd say the 23rd of Dec. is a very lucky time to have such a severe outage .
Unless you 're a BB engineer who must work around the clock until it 's fixed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The vast majority of BB users are business users and many people are already on Christmas vacation, so I'd say the 23rd of Dec. is a very lucky time to have such a severe outage.
Unless you're a BB engineer who must work around the clock until it's fixed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534724</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30536998</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>tool462</author>
	<datestamp>1259780100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I want somebody to make an option in Farmville for me to "salt the earth".  I'd go through, killing off their gardens, just to see their reactions when they realize how much of their lives they've devoted to a fake garden.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I want somebody to make an option in Farmville for me to " salt the earth " .
I 'd go through , killing off their gardens , just to see their reactions when they realize how much of their lives they 've devoted to a fake garden .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want somebody to make an option in Farmville for me to "salt the earth".
I'd go through, killing off their gardens, just to see their reactions when they realize how much of their lives they've devoted to a fake garden.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534952</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535340</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>Sponge Bath</author>
	<datestamp>1259770260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr><i>...unplug from the grid and take a chill pill.</i></p><p>Timothy Leary once said something similar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...unplug from the grid and take a chill pill.Timothy Leary once said something similar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...unplug from the grid and take a chill pill.Timothy Leary once said something similar.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534974</id>
	<title>L O L</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259768040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work for an IT department that mandated blackberry use specifically because RIM was supposed to work in an email outage and they think that iPhones are insecure and unreliable so they banned even personal use of them.</p><p>My sides hurt from laughing.</p><p>&gt;&gt;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work for an IT department that mandated blackberry use specifically because RIM was supposed to work in an email outage and they think that iPhones are insecure and unreliable so they banned even personal use of them.My sides hurt from laughing. &gt; &gt;</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work for an IT department that mandated blackberry use specifically because RIM was supposed to work in an email outage and they think that iPhones are insecure and unreliable so they banned even personal use of them.My sides hurt from laughing.&gt;&gt;</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534906</id>
	<title>Re:Central point of failure..</title>
	<author>ircmaxell</author>
	<datestamp>1259767560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think it's weird requiring all services to go through a middle man.  Why should I need to use a proxy for push email when my exchange server supports it directly?  (If there's a real reason, please tell me because I'm curious)...<br> <br>PS.  I'm a proud owner of a Droid.  Push email works quite well for me on it (directly from my server).  I don't see a reason (for me) to switch to Blackberry/RIM).  Is there a killer feature/functionality that a BB would give me over the Droid?  Is it enough of a reason to add another point of failure in the stack?<br> <br>Thanks...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's weird requiring all services to go through a middle man .
Why should I need to use a proxy for push email when my exchange server supports it directly ?
( If there 's a real reason , please tell me because I 'm curious ) ... PS. I 'm a proud owner of a Droid .
Push email works quite well for me on it ( directly from my server ) .
I do n't see a reason ( for me ) to switch to Blackberry/RIM ) .
Is there a killer feature/functionality that a BB would give me over the Droid ?
Is it enough of a reason to add another point of failure in the stack ?
Thanks.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's weird requiring all services to go through a middle man.
Why should I need to use a proxy for push email when my exchange server supports it directly?
(If there's a real reason, please tell me because I'm curious)... PS.  I'm a proud owner of a Droid.
Push email works quite well for me on it (directly from my server).
I don't see a reason (for me) to switch to Blackberry/RIM).
Is there a killer feature/functionality that a BB would give me over the Droid?
Is it enough of a reason to add another point of failure in the stack?
Thanks...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534718</id>
	<title>Central point of failure..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259766480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>RIM seems to be particularly odd in chosing an architecture that gives a single point of failure.</p><p>Then again, given most crackberry users.. nothing of value was lost.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>RIM seems to be particularly odd in chosing an architecture that gives a single point of failure.Then again , given most crackberry users.. nothing of value was lost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RIM seems to be particularly odd in chosing an architecture that gives a single point of failure.Then again, given most crackberry users.. nothing of value was lost.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535136</id>
	<title>According to SANS, you're a little late slashdot..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259769240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>UPDATED 6:00AM CST (bambenek) - It appears Blackberry's network is back up.  The outage affected only those applications that needed to go through that network. Native IP was working fine, but seemed to be all providers.</p><p>http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7798&amp;rss</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>UPDATED 6 : 00AM CST ( bambenek ) - It appears Blackberry 's network is back up .
The outage affected only those applications that needed to go through that network .
Native IP was working fine , but seemed to be all providers.http : //isc.sans.org/diary.html ? storyid = 7798&amp;rss</tokentext>
<sentencetext>UPDATED 6:00AM CST (bambenek) - It appears Blackberry's network is back up.
The outage affected only those applications that needed to go through that network.
Native IP was working fine, but seemed to be all providers.http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7798&amp;rss</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30536078</id>
	<title>Re:One wonders...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259774820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...email be sent to some third-party's server unless it's absolutely necessary?</p></div><p>Not to mention that said third-party is not even a US company.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...email be sent to some third-party 's server unless it 's absolutely necessary ? Not to mention that said third-party is not even a US company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...email be sent to some third-party's server unless it's absolutely necessary?Not to mention that said third-party is not even a US company.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535036</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535968</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259774220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would much prefer a different mobile device but in order to have access to my work calendar on the mobile, the company forces me to use a BB.  Of course, I have learned to use the "quiet" setting after hours so I am not bothered by work messages when I'm not at the office or on call.  However, I can confirm that some people that I work with have not learned this lesson and get uptight if you haven't seen their e-mail with in a couple of minutes of it being sent and, yes, I would classify them as a classic type-A personality.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would much prefer a different mobile device but in order to have access to my work calendar on the mobile , the company forces me to use a BB .
Of course , I have learned to use the " quiet " setting after hours so I am not bothered by work messages when I 'm not at the office or on call .
However , I can confirm that some people that I work with have not learned this lesson and get uptight if you have n't seen their e-mail with in a couple of minutes of it being sent and , yes , I would classify them as a classic type-A personality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would much prefer a different mobile device but in order to have access to my work calendar on the mobile, the company forces me to use a BB.
Of course, I have learned to use the "quiet" setting after hours so I am not bothered by work messages when I'm not at the office or on call.
However, I can confirm that some people that I work with have not learned this lesson and get uptight if you haven't seen their e-mail with in a couple of minutes of it being sent and, yes, I would classify them as a classic type-A personality.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534734</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534730</id>
	<title>Enron days</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259766600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>And stockvalue goes up up up...</htmltext>
<tokenext>And stockvalue goes up up up.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And stockvalue goes up up up...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30537066</id>
	<title>BoostBerries UNITE!</title>
	<author>JayEmbee</author>
	<datestamp>1259780460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is why I carry a BoostBerry!

Opera Mini for Web
GMail BB App for email
GMaps BB App for mapping and nav
TwitterBerry for Twitter
jmIRC for IRC


No reliance on RIM for ANYTHING!

Granted, my data rates are slow as sin on iDEN, but it does it's job.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why I carry a BoostBerry !
Opera Mini for Web GMail BB App for email GMaps BB App for mapping and nav TwitterBerry for Twitter jmIRC for IRC No reliance on RIM for ANYTHING !
Granted , my data rates are slow as sin on iDEN , but it does it 's job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why I carry a BoostBerry!
Opera Mini for Web
GMail BB App for email
GMaps BB App for mapping and nav
TwitterBerry for Twitter
jmIRC for IRC


No reliance on RIM for ANYTHING!
Granted, my data rates are slow as sin on iDEN, but it does it's job.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534702</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534708</id>
	<title>Can you hear me now?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259766420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535038</id>
	<title>Working fine for me</title>
	<author>acoustix</author>
	<datestamp>1259768520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I received emails all night long on BES.  My wife's BB on BIS is also working fine.</p><p>The last outage didn't affect me either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I received emails all night long on BES .
My wife 's BB on BIS is also working fine.The last outage did n't affect me either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I received emails all night long on BES.
My wife's BB on BIS is also working fine.The last outage didn't affect me either.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535388</id>
	<title>Re:Central point of failure..</title>
	<author>Dystopian Rebel</author>
	<datestamp>1259770620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>crackberry users.. nothing of value was lost</p></div></blockquote><p>However, the rest of us really do have to fear what Crackberry users suffering from withdrawal will do with their SUPER THUMBS.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>crackberry users.. nothing of value was lostHowever , the rest of us really do have to fear what Crackberry users suffering from withdrawal will do with their SUPER THUMBS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>crackberry users.. nothing of value was lostHowever, the rest of us really do have to fear what Crackberry users suffering from withdrawal will do with their SUPER THUMBS.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30537300</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>frosty\_tsm</author>
	<datestamp>1259781840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>True in a lot of ways. Perhaps a \_brief\_ outage would put people's lives in perspective.</p></div><p>Or make them actually spend Christmas with their families rather than faking it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>True in a lot of ways .
Perhaps a \ _brief \ _ outage would put people 's lives in perspective.Or make them actually spend Christmas with their families rather than faking it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True in a lot of ways.
Perhaps a \_brief\_ outage would put people's lives in perspective.Or make them actually spend Christmas with their families rather than faking it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30537346</id>
	<title>No admin can guarantee immediate e-mail delivery.</title>
	<author>nuckfuts</author>
	<datestamp>1259782140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The outages refer to <strong>e-mail</strong>. Users can still make an old-fashioned phone call.</p><p>Using <em>any</em> e-mail system for time-sensitive communication demonstrates a lack of understanding about how e-mail works. Most of the time it's fast and dependable, but problems can always occur along the way that will cause messages to be delayed. Most MTA's in default configuration will retry for <strong>days</strong> to deliver a message if the receiving server is not responding.</p><p>If you need to contact someone urgently, e-mail is a poor choice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The outages refer to e-mail .
Users can still make an old-fashioned phone call.Using any e-mail system for time-sensitive communication demonstrates a lack of understanding about how e-mail works .
Most of the time it 's fast and dependable , but problems can always occur along the way that will cause messages to be delayed .
Most MTA 's in default configuration will retry for days to deliver a message if the receiving server is not responding.If you need to contact someone urgently , e-mail is a poor choice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The outages refer to e-mail.
Users can still make an old-fashioned phone call.Using any e-mail system for time-sensitive communication demonstrates a lack of understanding about how e-mail works.
Most of the time it's fast and dependable, but problems can always occur along the way that will cause messages to be delayed.
Most MTA's in default configuration will retry for days to deliver a message if the receiving server is not responding.If you need to contact someone urgently, e-mail is a poor choice.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534892</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>bsharitt</author>
	<datestamp>1259767500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mine was out last night, but seem to have been working all morning for me. BIS and Sprint here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mine was out last night , but seem to have been working all morning for me .
BIS and Sprint here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mine was out last night, but seem to have been working all morning for me.
BIS and Sprint here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534702</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534972</id>
	<title>IT Needs to Learn from TV</title>
	<author>RobotRunAmok</author>
	<datestamp>1259768040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a TV Master Control honcho in a previous life, I read stuff like this and I shake my head... hours??  DAYS?!  In broadcasting, that's not an outage, that's a carefully orchestrated attack by space aliens.  Why does anyone on the corporate management level even remotely tolerate this?  What, there's not enough money changing hands over at RIM to merit hiring the right professionals and institute the proper safeguards and procedures?  The infomercial that aired at 3AM on Channel 11 has a better back-up plan than RIM's entire service?  It boggles...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a TV Master Control honcho in a previous life , I read stuff like this and I shake my head.. .
hours ? ? DAYS ? !
In broadcasting , that 's not an outage , that 's a carefully orchestrated attack by space aliens .
Why does anyone on the corporate management level even remotely tolerate this ?
What , there 's not enough money changing hands over at RIM to merit hiring the right professionals and institute the proper safeguards and procedures ?
The infomercial that aired at 3AM on Channel 11 has a better back-up plan than RIM 's entire service ?
It boggles.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a TV Master Control honcho in a previous life, I read stuff like this and I shake my head...
hours??  DAYS?!
In broadcasting, that's not an outage, that's a carefully orchestrated attack by space aliens.
Why does anyone on the corporate management level even remotely tolerate this?
What, there's not enough money changing hands over at RIM to merit hiring the right professionals and institute the proper safeguards and procedures?
The infomercial that aired at 3AM on Channel 11 has a better back-up plan than RIM's entire service?
It boggles...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535134</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259769240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It appears that, as always, Slashdot has the breaking news within minutes after it becomes outdated.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It appears that , as always , Slashdot has the breaking news within minutes after it becomes outdated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It appears that, as always, Slashdot has the breaking news within minutes after it becomes outdated.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534702</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30536720</id>
	<title>How about restricting year-end outages?</title>
	<author>andawyr</author>
	<datestamp>1259778420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At my company we have a change freeze from mid-December to mid-January to avoid problems such as this.  With a large (40B+) company, you need to have a stable environment to perform year-end financial activities, and an outage like this would be completely unacceptable.</p><p>While I don't personally use a Blackberry, I would be asking some serious questions about their change policies before I relied too heavily on a BB for business purposes...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At my company we have a change freeze from mid-December to mid-January to avoid problems such as this .
With a large ( 40B + ) company , you need to have a stable environment to perform year-end financial activities , and an outage like this would be completely unacceptable.While I do n't personally use a Blackberry , I would be asking some serious questions about their change policies before I relied too heavily on a BB for business purposes.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At my company we have a change freeze from mid-December to mid-January to avoid problems such as this.
With a large (40B+) company, you need to have a stable environment to perform year-end financial activities, and an outage like this would be completely unacceptable.While I don't personally use a Blackberry, I would be asking some serious questions about their change policies before I relied too heavily on a BB for business purposes...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30536076</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259774820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It sometimes helps to explain to the powers that be with a data flow and connectivity diagram.  All Blackberry traffic, especially BES traffic, flows through the Blackberry servers.  So the phones are connected first to the carrier, then to the Blackberry servers, then to the BES, then to the company mail server.  The company mail server is connected to the BES, which then connects to the Blackberry server network, then to the carrier, then to your phone.</p><p>There are pluses and minuses to this arrangement.  The big minus is obvious -- when Blackberry has problems, EVERYONE has problems.</p><p>Perhaps the outage was shorter than expected.  Slashdot news is never "real time" and problems are often solved before the story is ever published here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It sometimes helps to explain to the powers that be with a data flow and connectivity diagram .
All Blackberry traffic , especially BES traffic , flows through the Blackberry servers .
So the phones are connected first to the carrier , then to the Blackberry servers , then to the BES , then to the company mail server .
The company mail server is connected to the BES , which then connects to the Blackberry server network , then to the carrier , then to your phone.There are pluses and minuses to this arrangement .
The big minus is obvious -- when Blackberry has problems , EVERYONE has problems.Perhaps the outage was shorter than expected .
Slashdot news is never " real time " and problems are often solved before the story is ever published here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It sometimes helps to explain to the powers that be with a data flow and connectivity diagram.
All Blackberry traffic, especially BES traffic, flows through the Blackberry servers.
So the phones are connected first to the carrier, then to the Blackberry servers, then to the BES, then to the company mail server.
The company mail server is connected to the BES, which then connects to the Blackberry server network, then to the carrier, then to your phone.There are pluses and minuses to this arrangement.
The big minus is obvious -- when Blackberry has problems, EVERYONE has problems.Perhaps the outage was shorter than expected.
Slashdot news is never "real time" and problems are often solved before the story is ever published here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534838</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30536678</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>IorDMUX</author>
	<datestamp>1259778180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My '98 Saturn, casual street wear, and BlackBerry Storm reject your hypothesis, but still sorely miss our Wikipedias.<br> <br>And besides, I'm type B+, according to my donor card.
<br> <br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-p</htmltext>
<tokenext>My '98 Saturn , casual street wear , and BlackBerry Storm reject your hypothesis , but still sorely miss our Wikipedias .
And besides , I 'm type B + , according to my donor card .
: -p</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My '98 Saturn, casual street wear, and BlackBerry Storm reject your hypothesis, but still sorely miss our Wikipedias.
And besides, I'm type B+, according to my donor card.
:-p</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534734</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535488</id>
	<title>Channel 11 did not have a backup on Nov 22, 1987</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259771160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Channel 11 did not have a backup on Nov 22, 1987.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Channel 11 did not have a backup on Nov 22 , 1987 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Channel 11 did not have a backup on Nov 22, 1987.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534972</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535036</id>
	<title>Re:One wonders...</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1259768460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had an argument with someone about this topic a while back.  It was a BlackBerry user who was insistent that a lot of value was added by putting RIM in the middle of your conversations... something about being able to email other blackberry users directly, and their Blackberry would get it even if their mail server was down... maybe?  I don't know.  Didn't make sense to me.  And there was the fact that it was encrypted, and that you could have it push emails to your phone instead of your phone querying the mail server.  That stuff is available for normal mail servers, too, so it's not much of a win.
</p><p>I know Verizon also does (or used to do) something similar where Verizon downloads all of your email from your mail server through a desktop redirector, and then Verizon sends the email to your phone.  They even encourage (or used to encourage) you to do things that way even if you have a Windows phone connecting to an Exchange server.  I never understood the point of that kind of crap.  Not only is it a single point of failure among all the Blackberry users, but it's an additional point of failure for each user.  If my mail server is down or the carrier is down, RIM isn't making it so I keep getting mail.  Plus it's an additional security risk.  Why should my (or my company's) email be sent to some third-party's server unless it's absolutely necessary?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had an argument with someone about this topic a while back .
It was a BlackBerry user who was insistent that a lot of value was added by putting RIM in the middle of your conversations... something about being able to email other blackberry users directly , and their Blackberry would get it even if their mail server was down... maybe ? I do n't know .
Did n't make sense to me .
And there was the fact that it was encrypted , and that you could have it push emails to your phone instead of your phone querying the mail server .
That stuff is available for normal mail servers , too , so it 's not much of a win .
I know Verizon also does ( or used to do ) something similar where Verizon downloads all of your email from your mail server through a desktop redirector , and then Verizon sends the email to your phone .
They even encourage ( or used to encourage ) you to do things that way even if you have a Windows phone connecting to an Exchange server .
I never understood the point of that kind of crap .
Not only is it a single point of failure among all the Blackberry users , but it 's an additional point of failure for each user .
If my mail server is down or the carrier is down , RIM is n't making it so I keep getting mail .
Plus it 's an additional security risk .
Why should my ( or my company 's ) email be sent to some third-party 's server unless it 's absolutely necessary ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had an argument with someone about this topic a while back.
It was a BlackBerry user who was insistent that a lot of value was added by putting RIM in the middle of your conversations... something about being able to email other blackberry users directly, and their Blackberry would get it even if their mail server was down... maybe?  I don't know.
Didn't make sense to me.
And there was the fact that it was encrypted, and that you could have it push emails to your phone instead of your phone querying the mail server.
That stuff is available for normal mail servers, too, so it's not much of a win.
I know Verizon also does (or used to do) something similar where Verizon downloads all of your email from your mail server through a desktop redirector, and then Verizon sends the email to your phone.
They even encourage (or used to encourage) you to do things that way even if you have a Windows phone connecting to an Exchange server.
I never understood the point of that kind of crap.
Not only is it a single point of failure among all the Blackberry users, but it's an additional point of failure for each user.
If my mail server is down or the carrier is down, RIM isn't making it so I keep getting mail.
Plus it's an additional security risk.
Why should my (or my company's) email be sent to some third-party's server unless it's absolutely necessary?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534776</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30543602</id>
	<title>copy black berry from China</title>
	<author>Chinaecarts</author>
	<datestamp>1261668000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>buy wholesale copy blackberry from <a href="http://www.chinaecarts.com/" title="chinaecarts.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.chinaecarts.com/</a> [chinaecarts.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>buy wholesale copy blackberry from http : //www.chinaecarts.com/ [ chinaecarts.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>buy wholesale copy blackberry from http://www.chinaecarts.com/ [chinaecarts.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535440</id>
	<title>Contact the engineer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259770860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope they have given the Engineers who will fix the fault something else other than a Blackberry phone<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope they have given the Engineers who will fix the fault something else other than a Blackberry phone ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope they have given the Engineers who will fix the fault something else other than a Blackberry phone ;)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30538834</id>
	<title>Re:One wonders...</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1259748120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So they can generate revenue of corse...  If you don't need them, then they become a marginal player at best and will lose all their power.</p><p>All joking aside, someone needs to step up and provide a corporate solution that doesn't have a single point of failure that is out of your control.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So they can generate revenue of corse... If you do n't need them , then they become a marginal player at best and will lose all their power.All joking aside , someone needs to step up and provide a corporate solution that does n't have a single point of failure that is out of your control .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they can generate revenue of corse...  If you don't need them, then they become a marginal player at best and will lose all their power.All joking aside, someone needs to step up and provide a corporate solution that doesn't have a single point of failure that is out of your control.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534776</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30536172</id>
	<title>What outage?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259775540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm posting this from my blackbe</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm posting this from my blackbe</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm posting this from my blackbe</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534830</id>
	<title>Nothing is Out or Broken</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259767140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As soon as I read this I tried to go online and send a BB message and all the fun and pointless stuff my crap berry allows me to do.   Everything worked perfectly and with pretty good speed.  It's possible that the outage only effects certain carriers or maybe just certain data plans but as far as my phone goes everything works</htmltext>
<tokenext>As soon as I read this I tried to go online and send a BB message and all the fun and pointless stuff my crap berry allows me to do .
Everything worked perfectly and with pretty good speed .
It 's possible that the outage only effects certain carriers or maybe just certain data plans but as far as my phone goes everything works</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As soon as I read this I tried to go online and send a BB message and all the fun and pointless stuff my crap berry allows me to do.
Everything worked perfectly and with pretty good speed.
It's possible that the outage only effects certain carriers or maybe just certain data plans but as far as my phone goes everything works</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535002</id>
	<title>Don't worry all you crack-heads...</title>
	<author>tyroneking</author>
	<datestamp>1259768220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... from the site linked in the article: "* FINAL UPDATE: Things are back to normal. RIM Statment to follow."</p><p>This is the second outage in a week apparently (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2009-12-23/rim-reports-second-blackberry-outage-within-a-week-update2-.html) .</p><p>ITProPortal has the funniest story about this (http://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2009/12/23/rim-blackberry-service-hit-yet-another-e-mail-problem/): "The substantial number of users on online forums whining about the issue indicates the gravity of the matter and how widespread the issue is."</p><p>Problem is that I depend on a T Mobile powered GPhone - and while T Mobile have been pretty solid, Gmail has had its problems - also my home ISP is always messing around with DNS servers or disconnecting me for magically stupid reasons.</p><p>We really need some legislation to mandate a minimum service provision.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... from the site linked in the article : " * FINAL UPDATE : Things are back to normal .
RIM Statment to follow .
" This is the second outage in a week apparently ( http : //www.businessweek.com/news/2009-12-23/rim-reports-second-blackberry-outage-within-a-week-update2-.html ) .ITProPortal has the funniest story about this ( http : //www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2009/12/23/rim-blackberry-service-hit-yet-another-e-mail-problem/ ) : " The substantial number of users on online forums whining about the issue indicates the gravity of the matter and how widespread the issue is .
" Problem is that I depend on a T Mobile powered GPhone - and while T Mobile have been pretty solid , Gmail has had its problems - also my home ISP is always messing around with DNS servers or disconnecting me for magically stupid reasons.We really need some legislation to mandate a minimum service provision .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... from the site linked in the article: "* FINAL UPDATE: Things are back to normal.
RIM Statment to follow.
"This is the second outage in a week apparently (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2009-12-23/rim-reports-second-blackberry-outage-within-a-week-update2-.html) .ITProPortal has the funniest story about this (http://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2009/12/23/rim-blackberry-service-hit-yet-another-e-mail-problem/): "The substantial number of users on online forums whining about the issue indicates the gravity of the matter and how widespread the issue is.
"Problem is that I depend on a T Mobile powered GPhone - and while T Mobile have been pretty solid, Gmail has had its problems - also my home ISP is always messing around with DNS servers or disconnecting me for magically stupid reasons.We really need some legislation to mandate a minimum service provision.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535084</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>multisync</author>
	<datestamp>1259768820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mine is working too, and I received two messages at 3:00 AM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mine is working too , and I received two messages at 3 : 00 AM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mine is working too, and I received two messages at 3:00 AM.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534702</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534994</id>
	<title>Behold the grand future of Cloud Computing!</title>
	<author>ErichTheRed</author>
	<datestamp>1259768220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've noticed a lot of these kinds of outages lately, not just with RIM but with other network providers. They usually seem to follow a failed routine-maintenance cycle. Do carriers really not design their networks and systems to support rolling upgrades and the like? More importantly, has there been a breakdown of the test-and-release cycle that's supposed to catch these things before service dies for everyone?</p><p>I guess the other thing might be all the third-party hosting and outsourcing that goes on in IT...how many people want to bet that half the outage time was trying to figure out where exactly the fault was? From experience, that gets a billion times harder when your system is hosted by a third party who won't say a word to you so they can avoid taking blame (and SLA hits) for it.</p><p>Makes me wonder about cloud computing...the technology concept is great, but how many large organizations will trust all their data to machines they don't directly control? These days it doesn't make sense to host everything yourself, but companies really have to be careful to choose competent service providers!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've noticed a lot of these kinds of outages lately , not just with RIM but with other network providers .
They usually seem to follow a failed routine-maintenance cycle .
Do carriers really not design their networks and systems to support rolling upgrades and the like ?
More importantly , has there been a breakdown of the test-and-release cycle that 's supposed to catch these things before service dies for everyone ? I guess the other thing might be all the third-party hosting and outsourcing that goes on in IT...how many people want to bet that half the outage time was trying to figure out where exactly the fault was ?
From experience , that gets a billion times harder when your system is hosted by a third party who wo n't say a word to you so they can avoid taking blame ( and SLA hits ) for it.Makes me wonder about cloud computing...the technology concept is great , but how many large organizations will trust all their data to machines they do n't directly control ?
These days it does n't make sense to host everything yourself , but companies really have to be careful to choose competent service providers !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've noticed a lot of these kinds of outages lately, not just with RIM but with other network providers.
They usually seem to follow a failed routine-maintenance cycle.
Do carriers really not design their networks and systems to support rolling upgrades and the like?
More importantly, has there been a breakdown of the test-and-release cycle that's supposed to catch these things before service dies for everyone?I guess the other thing might be all the third-party hosting and outsourcing that goes on in IT...how many people want to bet that half the outage time was trying to figure out where exactly the fault was?
From experience, that gets a billion times harder when your system is hosted by a third party who won't say a word to you so they can avoid taking blame (and SLA hits) for it.Makes me wonder about cloud computing...the technology concept is great, but how many large organizations will trust all their data to machines they don't directly control?
These days it doesn't make sense to host everything yourself, but companies really have to be careful to choose competent service providers!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535132</id>
	<title>Reduction in crashes?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259769240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd love to know if there was a drop in vehicular crashes during the BlackBerry outage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd love to know if there was a drop in vehicular crashes during the BlackBerry outage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd love to know if there was a drop in vehicular crashes during the BlackBerry outage.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535928</id>
	<title>Re:SMTP/POP/IMAP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259774100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If RIM could actually do IMAP correctly, <a href="http://www.logicprobe.org/proj/logicmail" title="logicprobe.org" rel="nofollow">LogicMail</a> [logicprobe.org] probably wouldn't exist.  "Standards-based", indeed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If RIM could actually do IMAP correctly , LogicMail [ logicprobe.org ] probably would n't exist .
" Standards-based " , indeed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If RIM could actually do IMAP correctly, LogicMail [logicprobe.org] probably wouldn't exist.
"Standards-based", indeed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535006</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30537504</id>
	<title>Outage? Who cares? Platform War!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259783040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Blackberry's an aging platform, but the things it does right have keyboard ninjas like myself completely hooked. Since this discussion will devolve to OS/UI-bashing and platform comparisons anyway, here's my list of smartphone must-haves:<br>1) Home screen keyboard shortcuts (m for messages, o for options, etc.) Having to search for and click an icon is just inefficient.<br>2) Customizable shorthand (hig &gt; how's it going, fm &gt; from, etc)<br>3) Lag-free handling of 5k+ messages<br>4) Keyboard-activated select/cut/copy/paste<br>5) Proper multitasking (I can simultaneously SSH while running a search through server-side+local messages AND zipping a folder)</p><p>Is there another platform that can do all this? I'd love to migrate to better hardware + UI, but it all seems gimmicky and plain inefficient in comparison to my customized Blackberry setup.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Blackberry 's an aging platform , but the things it does right have keyboard ninjas like myself completely hooked .
Since this discussion will devolve to OS/UI-bashing and platform comparisons anyway , here 's my list of smartphone must-haves : 1 ) Home screen keyboard shortcuts ( m for messages , o for options , etc .
) Having to search for and click an icon is just inefficient.2 ) Customizable shorthand ( hig &gt; how 's it going , fm &gt; from , etc ) 3 ) Lag-free handling of 5k + messages4 ) Keyboard-activated select/cut/copy/paste5 ) Proper multitasking ( I can simultaneously SSH while running a search through server-side + local messages AND zipping a folder ) Is there another platform that can do all this ?
I 'd love to migrate to better hardware + UI , but it all seems gimmicky and plain inefficient in comparison to my customized Blackberry setup .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Blackberry's an aging platform, but the things it does right have keyboard ninjas like myself completely hooked.
Since this discussion will devolve to OS/UI-bashing and platform comparisons anyway, here's my list of smartphone must-haves:1) Home screen keyboard shortcuts (m for messages, o for options, etc.
) Having to search for and click an icon is just inefficient.2) Customizable shorthand (hig &gt; how's it going, fm &gt; from, etc)3) Lag-free handling of 5k+ messages4) Keyboard-activated select/cut/copy/paste5) Proper multitasking (I can simultaneously SSH while running a search through server-side+local messages AND zipping a folder)Is there another platform that can do all this?
I'd love to migrate to better hardware + UI, but it all seems gimmicky and plain inefficient in comparison to my customized Blackberry setup.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30537308</id>
	<title>Re:IT Needs to Learn from TV</title>
	<author>deblau</author>
	<datestamp>1259781960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Television broadcasters send their content via transmission paths that they (usually) have complete control over: TV towers, satellites, and cables.  Barring the laws of physics breaking down, or some kind of massive jamming event like a nuclear strike, broadcast TV will always work (although there are problems with reflections, ghosting, interference, and so on).  Same for satellites, except on certain rainy days.  Cables always work, except When Backhoes Attack.</p><p>Email and web browsing use an uncontrolled network -- the Internet.  Data pass over systems outside the direct control of the provider.  You can't reasonably demand the same uptime and QoS.  That being said, this particular incident appears to have been a software foul-up under RIM's direct supervision, which <i>should</i> have been preventable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Television broadcasters send their content via transmission paths that they ( usually ) have complete control over : TV towers , satellites , and cables .
Barring the laws of physics breaking down , or some kind of massive jamming event like a nuclear strike , broadcast TV will always work ( although there are problems with reflections , ghosting , interference , and so on ) .
Same for satellites , except on certain rainy days .
Cables always work , except When Backhoes Attack.Email and web browsing use an uncontrolled network -- the Internet .
Data pass over systems outside the direct control of the provider .
You ca n't reasonably demand the same uptime and QoS .
That being said , this particular incident appears to have been a software foul-up under RIM 's direct supervision , which should have been preventable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Television broadcasters send their content via transmission paths that they (usually) have complete control over: TV towers, satellites, and cables.
Barring the laws of physics breaking down, or some kind of massive jamming event like a nuclear strike, broadcast TV will always work (although there are problems with reflections, ghosting, interference, and so on).
Same for satellites, except on certain rainy days.
Cables always work, except When Backhoes Attack.Email and web browsing use an uncontrolled network -- the Internet.
Data pass over systems outside the direct control of the provider.
You can't reasonably demand the same uptime and QoS.
That being said, this particular incident appears to have been a software foul-up under RIM's direct supervision, which should have been preventable.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534972</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535628</id>
	<title>It's all about the fees</title>
	<author>Dzimas</author>
	<datestamp>1259772060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Blackberry business model predates the arrival of the current generation of smartphones. RIM charges telcos a monthly fee for each subscriber using the various Blackberry services (messenger, mail and data). Licensing the server technology to cell providers would cost RIM a fortune in monthly license fees, because no doubt the wireless providers would negotiate huge discounts. I also suspect that the blackberry.net infrastructure is a tangled mess that would challenging to support when run by countless telcos around the globe - it was never supposed to get this popular.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Blackberry business model predates the arrival of the current generation of smartphones .
RIM charges telcos a monthly fee for each subscriber using the various Blackberry services ( messenger , mail and data ) .
Licensing the server technology to cell providers would cost RIM a fortune in monthly license fees , because no doubt the wireless providers would negotiate huge discounts .
I also suspect that the blackberry.net infrastructure is a tangled mess that would challenging to support when run by countless telcos around the globe - it was never supposed to get this popular .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Blackberry business model predates the arrival of the current generation of smartphones.
RIM charges telcos a monthly fee for each subscriber using the various Blackberry services (messenger, mail and data).
Licensing the server technology to cell providers would cost RIM a fortune in monthly license fees, because no doubt the wireless providers would negotiate huge discounts.
I also suspect that the blackberry.net infrastructure is a tangled mess that would challenging to support when run by countless telcos around the globe - it was never supposed to get this popular.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534906</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534886</id>
	<title>This was yesterday's news</title>
	<author>hicks107</author>
	<datestamp>1259767440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This was yesterday's news, typical slashdot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This was yesterday 's news , typical slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This was yesterday's news, typical slashdot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535216</id>
	<title>Re:Central point of failure..</title>
	<author>RFGuy1</author>
	<datestamp>1259769600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hello? Hello?

Allan Angus is that you? Seems to me WebLink Wireless had a single point of failure as well!




GJ</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hello ?
Hello ? Allan Angus is that you ?
Seems to me WebLink Wireless had a single point of failure as well !
GJ</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hello?
Hello?

Allan Angus is that you?
Seems to me WebLink Wireless had a single point of failure as well!
GJ</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30536458</id>
	<title>My phone only makes calls</title>
	<author>SlashDPC</author>
	<datestamp>1259776980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use my Blackberry for everything but making phone calls. Right now, all it can do is make phone calls. This is unacceptable.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use my Blackberry for everything but making phone calls .
Right now , all it can do is make phone calls .
This is unacceptable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use my Blackberry for everything but making phone calls.
Right now, all it can do is make phone calls.
This is unacceptable.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30537366</id>
	<title>Re:Central point of failure..</title>
	<author>ToasterMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1259782260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This type of thing is wide spread across the entire company, everyones little app/process/product emails home to their respective BB carrying owners, as well as a laundry list of middle and upper management, and like I said the on-call folks. It seems that our company overly relied on the use of BB when it should have been obvious to also CC these emails to our local NOC in the case of an unthinkable nationwide BB outage. -Anon with good reason.</p></div><p>Just be glad you have a NOC to make use of.  Some of us have to sleepily respond to "pages" from small/mid sized OLTP systems (non-mainframe) ) on corporate BB's, praying service is/is not available some nights depending on if a code release recently happened.  I bet you have an enterprise backup system too, lucky dog.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This type of thing is wide spread across the entire company , everyones little app/process/product emails home to their respective BB carrying owners , as well as a laundry list of middle and upper management , and like I said the on-call folks .
It seems that our company overly relied on the use of BB when it should have been obvious to also CC these emails to our local NOC in the case of an unthinkable nationwide BB outage .
-Anon with good reason.Just be glad you have a NOC to make use of .
Some of us have to sleepily respond to " pages " from small/mid sized OLTP systems ( non-mainframe ) ) on corporate BB 's , praying service is/is not available some nights depending on if a code release recently happened .
I bet you have an enterprise backup system too , lucky dog .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This type of thing is wide spread across the entire company, everyones little app/process/product emails home to their respective BB carrying owners, as well as a laundry list of middle and upper management, and like I said the on-call folks.
It seems that our company overly relied on the use of BB when it should have been obvious to also CC these emails to our local NOC in the case of an unthinkable nationwide BB outage.
-Anon with good reason.Just be glad you have a NOC to make use of.
Some of us have to sleepily respond to "pages" from small/mid sized OLTP systems (non-mainframe) ) on corporate BB's, praying service is/is not available some nights depending on if a code release recently happened.
I bet you have an enterprise backup system too, lucky dog.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535710</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30537508</id>
	<title>Re:Central point of failure..</title>
	<author>socsoc</author>
	<datestamp>1259783100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's like me saying I don't understand why you use Exchange when you could use something free, like Zimbra, that also supports push.  Everyone has reasons for what they've chosen to use and none of us know the whole picture unless we are directly involved in the decision making.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's like me saying I do n't understand why you use Exchange when you could use something free , like Zimbra , that also supports push .
Everyone has reasons for what they 've chosen to use and none of us know the whole picture unless we are directly involved in the decision making .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's like me saying I don't understand why you use Exchange when you could use something free, like Zimbra, that also supports push.
Everyone has reasons for what they've chosen to use and none of us know the whole picture unless we are directly involved in the decision making.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534906</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30538546</id>
	<title>pings with a note?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259746440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I recall when the floodgates from AOL were opened and we had to listen to this "ping" this and "ping" that everywhere on usenet and web forums.</p><p>Because, you know, AOL people were cool and said things like this, even though they had no clue what a ping was.</p><p>Moral of the story: Slashdot journalists now do it so it's time to move on to greener pastures. This place will never be the same again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I recall when the floodgates from AOL were opened and we had to listen to this " ping " this and " ping " that everywhere on usenet and web forums.Because , you know , AOL people were cool and said things like this , even though they had no clue what a ping was.Moral of the story : Slashdot journalists now do it so it 's time to move on to greener pastures .
This place will never be the same again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recall when the floodgates from AOL were opened and we had to listen to this "ping" this and "ping" that everywhere on usenet and web forums.Because, you know, AOL people were cool and said things like this, even though they had no clue what a ping was.Moral of the story: Slashdot journalists now do it so it's time to move on to greener pastures.
This place will never be the same again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535360</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>R\_Dorothy</author>
	<datestamp>1259770440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One of my duties in a previous job was looking after the BES and the Crackberry users.  Someone once asked me if there was anything I could do as their Blackberry was waking them up when an email arrived in the middle of the night.  I introduced them to the 'off' switch.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of my duties in a previous job was looking after the BES and the Crackberry users .
Someone once asked me if there was anything I could do as their Blackberry was waking them up when an email arrived in the middle of the night .
I introduced them to the 'off ' switch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of my duties in a previous job was looking after the BES and the Crackberry users.
Someone once asked me if there was anything I could do as their Blackberry was waking them up when an email arrived in the middle of the night.
I introduced them to the 'off' switch.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30536030</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259774580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>Certain hardcore users would get physical withdraw symptoms, coma, then death.</i>
</p><p>And we would notice the difference how exactly?
</p><p>Funny thing, Vodafone has had a lot of outages lately in Holland, and live goes on. The entire rail network was buggered because of a 10-15 centimers of snow, and live goes on. Belgium a while back went for months without a government, and live went on.
</p><p>I think we let the media sell us to much the idea of drama. The tv especially needs some excuse for the drama of a live report from the scene of the action that any action will do.
</p><p>Ages ago, we had an earthquake in Holland. Well a tremble. And all the tv news crews were desperate for a story. I remember one "These roof tiles have fallen down, in this bush, in the middle of the night. If someone had been standing in this thorny bush, then they could have been killed." Well yes. Small detail, the roof was barely 2 meters up. A person of average dutch height (2 meters) would hardly have his head split open by such an insane drop.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Certain hardcore users would get physical withdraw symptoms , coma , then death .
And we would notice the difference how exactly ?
Funny thing , Vodafone has had a lot of outages lately in Holland , and live goes on .
The entire rail network was buggered because of a 10-15 centimers of snow , and live goes on .
Belgium a while back went for months without a government , and live went on .
I think we let the media sell us to much the idea of drama .
The tv especially needs some excuse for the drama of a live report from the scene of the action that any action will do .
Ages ago , we had an earthquake in Holland .
Well a tremble .
And all the tv news crews were desperate for a story .
I remember one " These roof tiles have fallen down , in this bush , in the middle of the night .
If someone had been standing in this thorny bush , then they could have been killed .
" Well yes .
Small detail , the roof was barely 2 meters up .
A person of average dutch height ( 2 meters ) would hardly have his head split open by such an insane drop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Certain hardcore users would get physical withdraw symptoms, coma, then death.
And we would notice the difference how exactly?
Funny thing, Vodafone has had a lot of outages lately in Holland, and live goes on.
The entire rail network was buggered because of a 10-15 centimers of snow, and live goes on.
Belgium a while back went for months without a government, and live went on.
I think we let the media sell us to much the idea of drama.
The tv especially needs some excuse for the drama of a live report from the scene of the action that any action will do.
Ages ago, we had an earthquake in Holland.
Well a tremble.
And all the tv news crews were desperate for a story.
I remember one "These roof tiles have fallen down, in this bush, in the middle of the night.
If someone had been standing in this thorny bush, then they could have been killed.
" Well yes.
Small detail, the roof was barely 2 meters up.
A person of average dutch height (2 meters) would hardly have his head split open by such an insane drop.
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30537716</id>
	<title>Re:Oh god no internet on my phone!</title>
	<author>Bourdain</author>
	<datestamp>1259784480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sure it wasn't at&amp;t in NY, it takes 5 minutes to even bring up a web page outside in times square
<br>
<br>
and that's on a good day</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure it was n't at&amp;t in NY , it takes 5 minutes to even bring up a web page outside in times square and that 's on a good day</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure it wasn't at&amp;t in NY, it takes 5 minutes to even bring up a web page outside in times square


and that's on a good day</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534778</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535992</id>
	<title>few hours of gadget down is of issue to you guys??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259774340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi<br>I am from India, it is very sad to see how much you western folks worry about work and down time and not bother normal human life..</p><p>In my are in india i would loose power atleast once a day and in summer 3 hour daily power outage....</p><p>I think we should learn to use that time to chill ourself and look at the world rather than banging head on the pc or gadget</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>HiI am from India , it is very sad to see how much you western folks worry about work and down time and not bother normal human life..In my are in india i would loose power atleast once a day and in summer 3 hour daily power outage....I think we should learn to use that time to chill ourself and look at the world rather than banging head on the pc or gadget</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HiI am from India, it is very sad to see how much you western folks worry about work and down time and not bother normal human life..In my are in india i would loose power atleast once a day and in summer 3 hour daily power outage....I think we should learn to use that time to chill ourself and look at the world rather than banging head on the pc or gadget</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535556</id>
	<title>Re:Central point of failure..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259771640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>BIS users dont typically use their own server but use a "free" as in beer internet service like Google or Yahoo.</p><p>My Blackberry just pushed me 2 hotel reservations for the Holidays so all is not down completely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>BIS users dont typically use their own server but use a " free " as in beer internet service like Google or Yahoo.My Blackberry just pushed me 2 hotel reservations for the Holidays so all is not down completely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>BIS users dont typically use their own server but use a "free" as in beer internet service like Google or Yahoo.My Blackberry just pushed me 2 hotel reservations for the Holidays so all is not down completely.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534906</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535710</id>
	<title>Re:Central point of failure..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259772660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As an interesting side effect, my company gives all primary/secondary on-call folks BB's. They in turn automatically get messaged whenever some process starts failing. This lead to an interesting find last night when our on-call Oracle DBA called in wanting to know why he wasn't getting any BB messages as he found one of our Auth DB's ran out of space and was failing to allow for account changes (passwd changes, account updates, etc) and he never got a message about it. This type of thing is wide spread across the entire company, everyones little app/process/product emails home to their respective BB carrying owners, as well as a laundry list of middle and upper management, and like I said the on-call folks. It seems that our company overly relied on the use of BB when it should have been obvious to also CC these emails to our local NOC in the case of an unthinkable nationwide BB outage. -Anon with good reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As an interesting side effect , my company gives all primary/secondary on-call folks BB 's .
They in turn automatically get messaged whenever some process starts failing .
This lead to an interesting find last night when our on-call Oracle DBA called in wanting to know why he was n't getting any BB messages as he found one of our Auth DB 's ran out of space and was failing to allow for account changes ( passwd changes , account updates , etc ) and he never got a message about it .
This type of thing is wide spread across the entire company , everyones little app/process/product emails home to their respective BB carrying owners , as well as a laundry list of middle and upper management , and like I said the on-call folks .
It seems that our company overly relied on the use of BB when it should have been obvious to also CC these emails to our local NOC in the case of an unthinkable nationwide BB outage .
-Anon with good reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As an interesting side effect, my company gives all primary/secondary on-call folks BB's.
They in turn automatically get messaged whenever some process starts failing.
This lead to an interesting find last night when our on-call Oracle DBA called in wanting to know why he wasn't getting any BB messages as he found one of our Auth DB's ran out of space and was failing to allow for account changes (passwd changes, account updates, etc) and he never got a message about it.
This type of thing is wide spread across the entire company, everyones little app/process/product emails home to their respective BB carrying owners, as well as a laundry list of middle and upper management, and like I said the on-call folks.
It seems that our company overly relied on the use of BB when it should have been obvious to also CC these emails to our local NOC in the case of an unthinkable nationwide BB outage.
-Anon with good reason.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534718</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535140</id>
	<title>And yet...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259769300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And yet strangely I can post this comment from my 'berry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And yet strangely I can post this comment from my 'berry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And yet strangely I can post this comment from my 'berry.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535870</id>
	<title>Re:Central point of failure..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259773740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I think it's weird requiring all services to go through a middle man. Why should I need to use a proxy for push email when my exchange server supports it directly? (If there's a real reason, please tell me because I'm curious)...</i></p><p>Because Exchange DOES not push - it's a fake. The phone makes a pull request, and if there is nothing new, the server doesn't respond. If something arrives to go to the handheld, the server uses the existing connection and answers the pull. Works reasonably well provided your tcp connections don't time out. But if the phone isn't pulling there is no "push".</p><p>Blackebrry remains the only real push mobile solution out there. Not everyone needs it, but some of us do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's weird requiring all services to go through a middle man .
Why should I need to use a proxy for push email when my exchange server supports it directly ?
( If there 's a real reason , please tell me because I 'm curious ) ...Because Exchange DOES not push - it 's a fake .
The phone makes a pull request , and if there is nothing new , the server does n't respond .
If something arrives to go to the handheld , the server uses the existing connection and answers the pull .
Works reasonably well provided your tcp connections do n't time out .
But if the phone is n't pulling there is no " push " .Blackebrry remains the only real push mobile solution out there .
Not everyone needs it , but some of us do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's weird requiring all services to go through a middle man.
Why should I need to use a proxy for push email when my exchange server supports it directly?
(If there's a real reason, please tell me because I'm curious)...Because Exchange DOES not push - it's a fake.
The phone makes a pull request, and if there is nothing new, the server doesn't respond.
If something arrives to go to the handheld, the server uses the existing connection and answers the pull.
Works reasonably well provided your tcp connections don't time out.
But if the phone isn't pulling there is no "push".Blackebrry remains the only real push mobile solution out there.
Not everyone needs it, but some of us do.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534906</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30539082</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259749680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Being in constant contact isn't necessary to stay alive, however my BlackBerry does provide me with a better quality of life.  I don't have to spend 40 hours in the office.  I don't have to be near a computer.  I don't miss out on orders (I'm in sales).  The benefits far outweigh the negatives so the BlackBerry is a chill-pill itself.</p><p>Email going down is not similar to billing systems going down, it's similar to phones going down (also a major "CHQ on fire" scenario).  Any time you cut-off a major communication channel that people *expect* to be available all the time, you have a major problem.  Pushing invoices out a day or 2 late isn't quite as critical unless your cashflow position is truly screwed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Being in constant contact is n't necessary to stay alive , however my BlackBerry does provide me with a better quality of life .
I do n't have to spend 40 hours in the office .
I do n't have to be near a computer .
I do n't miss out on orders ( I 'm in sales ) .
The benefits far outweigh the negatives so the BlackBerry is a chill-pill itself.Email going down is not similar to billing systems going down , it 's similar to phones going down ( also a major " CHQ on fire " scenario ) .
Any time you cut-off a major communication channel that people * expect * to be available all the time , you have a major problem .
Pushing invoices out a day or 2 late is n't quite as critical unless your cashflow position is truly screwed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being in constant contact isn't necessary to stay alive, however my BlackBerry does provide me with a better quality of life.
I don't have to spend 40 hours in the office.
I don't have to be near a computer.
I don't miss out on orders (I'm in sales).
The benefits far outweigh the negatives so the BlackBerry is a chill-pill itself.Email going down is not similar to billing systems going down, it's similar to phones going down (also a major "CHQ on fire" scenario).
Any time you cut-off a major communication channel that people *expect* to be available all the time, you have a major problem.
Pushing invoices out a day or 2 late isn't quite as critical unless your cashflow position is truly screwed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534884</id>
	<title>Re:Oh god no internet on my phone!</title>
	<author>Norsefire</author>
	<datestamp>1259767440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Before you decided to be a smug prick on the internet did you consider the fact that Blackberry's Internet services were down for <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/12/23/blackberry.outage/index.html" title="cnn.com">8 hours</a> [cnn.com] but are now fixed? That perhaps when the story was submitted, the service was down but due to the delay in the story reaching the front-page the service is now restored? Did you think about that?<br> <br>

Of course you didn't.<br> <br>

Apparently the Armageddon is still a few days off.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Before you decided to be a smug prick on the internet did you consider the fact that Blackberry 's Internet services were down for 8 hours [ cnn.com ] but are now fixed ?
That perhaps when the story was submitted , the service was down but due to the delay in the story reaching the front-page the service is now restored ?
Did you think about that ?
Of course you did n't .
Apparently the Armageddon is still a few days off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Before you decided to be a smug prick on the internet did you consider the fact that Blackberry's Internet services were down for 8 hours [cnn.com] but are now fixed?
That perhaps when the story was submitted, the service was down but due to the delay in the story reaching the front-page the service is now restored?
Did you think about that?
Of course you didn't.
Apparently the Armageddon is still a few days off.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535626</id>
	<title>failure modes ..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259772060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Shouldn't they built in some sort of redundancy and allow for failure modes. I mean just how difficult is it to move bits from A to B<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Should n't they built in some sort of redundancy and allow for failure modes .
I mean just how difficult is it to move bits from A to B .. ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shouldn't they built in some sort of redundancy and allow for failure modes.
I mean just how difficult is it to move bits from A to B .. ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535902</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>Runaway1956</author>
	<datestamp>1259773860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Was the cause of the outage connected with that Bing update?  ROFLAMO, that would be funny as anything!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Was the cause of the outage connected with that Bing update ?
ROFLAMO , that would be funny as anything !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Was the cause of the outage connected with that Bing update?
ROFLAMO, that would be funny as anything!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534838</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30539618</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>NovaHorizon</author>
	<datestamp>1259753580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>True in a lot of ways. Perhaps a \_brief\_ outage would put people's lives in perspective. In all actuality you really aren't that important and being in constant contact with the rest of the world in real time through your hip-holstered cell phone isn't that important either.</p></div><p>please, tell the customers at Verizon Wireless that a little bit more. We had people demanding credit all day because of the outage, even though it hit EVERY carrier. Not to mention the business guys that somehow lose $1000 every day that the email on their phone doesn't work yet feel it best to have their phone on a personal account instead of a business account when there's no price difference.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>True in a lot of ways .
Perhaps a \ _brief \ _ outage would put people 's lives in perspective .
In all actuality you really are n't that important and being in constant contact with the rest of the world in real time through your hip-holstered cell phone is n't that important either.please , tell the customers at Verizon Wireless that a little bit more .
We had people demanding credit all day because of the outage , even though it hit EVERY carrier .
Not to mention the business guys that somehow lose $ 1000 every day that the email on their phone does n't work yet feel it best to have their phone on a personal account instead of a business account when there 's no price difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True in a lot of ways.
Perhaps a \_brief\_ outage would put people's lives in perspective.
In all actuality you really aren't that important and being in constant contact with the rest of the world in real time through your hip-holstered cell phone isn't that important either.please, tell the customers at Verizon Wireless that a little bit more.
We had people demanding credit all day because of the outage, even though it hit EVERY carrier.
Not to mention the business guys that somehow lose $1000 every day that the email on their phone doesn't work yet feel it best to have their phone on a personal account instead of a business account when there's no price difference.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534816</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534816</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259767080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>True in a lot of ways. Perhaps a \_brief\_ outage would put people's lives in perspective. In all actuality you really aren't that important and being in constant contact with the rest of the world in real time through your hip-holstered cell phone isn't that important either.</p><p>People seriously need a "mental health" to unplug from the grid and take a chill pill. What better time of year than right leading into the Holidays to do this?</p><p>Reminds me of places I've done IT support. Our core billing systems, inventory systems, accounting systems, etc. would be down and it was a PITA to the end users. But god forbid if Internet or e-mail access was down. You'd think that the CHQ was on fire and Milton was running away from the scene.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>True in a lot of ways .
Perhaps a \ _brief \ _ outage would put people 's lives in perspective .
In all actuality you really are n't that important and being in constant contact with the rest of the world in real time through your hip-holstered cell phone is n't that important either.People seriously need a " mental health " to unplug from the grid and take a chill pill .
What better time of year than right leading into the Holidays to do this ? Reminds me of places I 've done IT support .
Our core billing systems , inventory systems , accounting systems , etc .
would be down and it was a PITA to the end users .
But god forbid if Internet or e-mail access was down .
You 'd think that the CHQ was on fire and Milton was running away from the scene .
: -/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True in a lot of ways.
Perhaps a \_brief\_ outage would put people's lives in perspective.
In all actuality you really aren't that important and being in constant contact with the rest of the world in real time through your hip-holstered cell phone isn't that important either.People seriously need a "mental health" to unplug from the grid and take a chill pill.
What better time of year than right leading into the Holidays to do this?Reminds me of places I've done IT support.
Our core billing systems, inventory systems, accounting systems, etc.
would be down and it was a PITA to the end users.
But god forbid if Internet or e-mail access was down.
You'd think that the CHQ was on fire and Milton was running away from the scene.
:-/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535242</id>
	<title>Re:IT Needs to Learn from TV</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1259769840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My local broadcast stations have had a couple of hour plus outages since the DTV transition, so perhaps 'new' has something to do with it (some of them were because they were unhappy with coverage and they upgraded power and changed locations).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My local broadcast stations have had a couple of hour plus outages since the DTV transition , so perhaps 'new ' has something to do with it ( some of them were because they were unhappy with coverage and they upgraded power and changed locations ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My local broadcast stations have had a couple of hour plus outages since the DTV transition, so perhaps 'new' has something to do with it (some of them were because they were unhappy with coverage and they upgraded power and changed locations).</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534702</id>
	<title>Works for me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259766300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I did a test message from/to my BB too.</p><p>RTFA</p><p>* FINAL UPDATE: Things are back to normal. RIM Statment to follow.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did a test message from/to my BB too.RTFA * FINAL UPDATE : Things are back to normal .
RIM Statment to follow .
.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did a test message from/to my BB too.RTFA* FINAL UPDATE: Things are back to normal.
RIM Statment to follow.
...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534860</id>
	<title>Oh, really?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259767260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>another outage, huh? Well then, rag about AT&amp;T's shitty network all you want. My wife's iPhone outage count as of this morning: 0</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>another outage , huh ?
Well then , rag about AT&amp;T 's shitty network all you want .
My wife 's iPhone outage count as of this morning : 0</tokentext>
<sentencetext>another outage, huh?
Well then, rag about AT&amp;T's shitty network all you want.
My wife's iPhone outage count as of this morning: 0</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535078</id>
	<title>Dang, I had to use my BB as a phone</title>
	<author>frank249</author>
	<datestamp>1259768760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It took me a few minutes to realize that my BBMs were not going through.  I ended up just calling.  Funny how after you are used to BBMing and emailing, that having to make a phone call and actually talking to someone seems to bother me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It took me a few minutes to realize that my BBMs were not going through .
I ended up just calling .
Funny how after you are used to BBMing and emailing , that having to make a phone call and actually talking to someone seems to bother me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It took me a few minutes to realize that my BBMs were not going through.
I ended up just calling.
Funny how after you are used to BBMing and emailing, that having to make a phone call and actually talking to someone seems to bother me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30537364</id>
	<title>Re:IT Needs to Learn from TV</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259782260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>15 Years in Broadcast Engineering myself, in a top-10 market.  I'm sorry, but the one-way nature of broadcasting, which is based on WWII-era technology (NTSC standard ~ 1947) is in an entirely different ballpark in terms of complexity.</p><p>Rolling a duplicate tape or slug of an infomercial in one city doesn't quite compare to restoring and re-indexing a live database during an outage for a global service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>15 Years in Broadcast Engineering myself , in a top-10 market .
I 'm sorry , but the one-way nature of broadcasting , which is based on WWII-era technology ( NTSC standard ~ 1947 ) is in an entirely different ballpark in terms of complexity.Rolling a duplicate tape or slug of an infomercial in one city does n't quite compare to restoring and re-indexing a live database during an outage for a global service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>15 Years in Broadcast Engineering myself, in a top-10 market.
I'm sorry, but the one-way nature of broadcasting, which is based on WWII-era technology (NTSC standard ~ 1947) is in an entirely different ballpark in terms of complexity.Rolling a duplicate tape or slug of an infomercial in one city doesn't quite compare to restoring and re-indexing a live database during an outage for a global service.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534972</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534838</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>MBGMorden</author>
	<datestamp>1259767140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah - this skeered me (I'm the BES admin at work and sometimes it's hard to explain the difference to the powers that be that there's a difference between a failure that's our fault and a failure that's RIM's fault<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)).  My BB is working fine though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah - this skeered me ( I 'm the BES admin at work and sometimes it 's hard to explain the difference to the powers that be that there 's a difference between a failure that 's our fault and a failure that 's RIM 's fault : ) ) .
My BB is working fine though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah - this skeered me (I'm the BES admin at work and sometimes it's hard to explain the difference to the powers that be that there's a difference between a failure that's our fault and a failure that's RIM's fault :)).
My BB is working fine though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534702</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534778</id>
	<title>Oh god no internet on my phone!</title>
	<author>jeffmeden</author>
	<datestamp>1259766840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Panic panic panicpanicpanic</p><p>Wait, I am posting this from my blackberry via BIS (RIM internet)...</p><p>Oh well, apparently the Armageddon is still a few days off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Panic panic panicpanicpanicWait , I am posting this from my blackberry via BIS ( RIM internet ) ...Oh well , apparently the Armageddon is still a few days off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Panic panic panicpanicpanicWait, I am posting this from my blackberry via BIS (RIM internet)...Oh well, apparently the Armageddon is still a few days off.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535564</id>
	<title>Re:Central point of failure..</title>
	<author>alen</author>
	<datestamp>1259771640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>as it was already said a lot of government agencies and contractors rely on RIM. as well as any company that wants secure mobile email. the traffic is encrypted and it's a VPN from your phone to your email server. and all the internet traffic from the phone flows through your organization's network where it can be filtered and managed. Intranet access is easy with blackberries as well without opening up ports on the firewall or putting internal website IP's on public DNS servers.</p><p>I have an iphone 3GS as well and it doesn't match the security or manageability of Blackberry Enterprise Server. You can buy extra products but it's easier to just use RIM's service if you need this functionality</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>as it was already said a lot of government agencies and contractors rely on RIM .
as well as any company that wants secure mobile email .
the traffic is encrypted and it 's a VPN from your phone to your email server .
and all the internet traffic from the phone flows through your organization 's network where it can be filtered and managed .
Intranet access is easy with blackberries as well without opening up ports on the firewall or putting internal website IP 's on public DNS servers.I have an iphone 3GS as well and it does n't match the security or manageability of Blackberry Enterprise Server .
You can buy extra products but it 's easier to just use RIM 's service if you need this functionality</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as it was already said a lot of government agencies and contractors rely on RIM.
as well as any company that wants secure mobile email.
the traffic is encrypted and it's a VPN from your phone to your email server.
and all the internet traffic from the phone flows through your organization's network where it can be filtered and managed.
Intranet access is easy with blackberries as well without opening up ports on the firewall or putting internal website IP's on public DNS servers.I have an iphone 3GS as well and it doesn't match the security or manageability of Blackberry Enterprise Server.
You can buy extra products but it's easier to just use RIM's service if you need this functionality</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534906</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30536192</id>
	<title>BIS &amp; BES</title>
	<author>DiSKiLLeR</author>
	<datestamp>1259775660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't stand blackberry's BIS &amp; BES. Phones these days are clearly powerful enough to just speak the same protocols computers can, why have mandatory middlemen for everything? gah.</p><p>I hate my iPhone for a lot of reasons, but I still use it because its wayy better than BlackBerry and being forced to use special blackberry plans to have access to use BIS &amp; BES. Fuck that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't stand blackberry 's BIS &amp; BES .
Phones these days are clearly powerful enough to just speak the same protocols computers can , why have mandatory middlemen for everything ?
gah.I hate my iPhone for a lot of reasons , but I still use it because its wayy better than BlackBerry and being forced to use special blackberry plans to have access to use BIS &amp; BES .
Fuck that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't stand blackberry's BIS &amp; BES.
Phones these days are clearly powerful enough to just speak the same protocols computers can, why have mandatory middlemen for everything?
gah.I hate my iPhone for a lot of reasons, but I still use it because its wayy better than BlackBerry and being forced to use special blackberry plans to have access to use BIS &amp; BES.
Fuck that.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30536618</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>IorDMUX</author>
	<datestamp>1259777820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I lost all data-related connections as of about 3:00 PM, yesterday, on my Verizon BB Storm.  As of this morning, the internet is back, but e-mail is still down.<br> <br>I called Verizon's tech support yesterday and the rep said that they were flooded with calls from Blackberry users all asking the same questions, so I am pretty certain that this was, in the words of Ron Burgundy, "kind of a big deal".  The worst part is that this is the <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035\_3-10417374-94.html" title="cnet.com">second such outage in a week</a> [cnet.com]!  It is starting to look as though Gmail has better uptime than BIS.<br> <br>And no, before you ask, Bing has not mysteriously appeared on my phone.  The default search provider is and always has been Google.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I lost all data-related connections as of about 3 : 00 PM , yesterday , on my Verizon BB Storm .
As of this morning , the internet is back , but e-mail is still down .
I called Verizon 's tech support yesterday and the rep said that they were flooded with calls from Blackberry users all asking the same questions , so I am pretty certain that this was , in the words of Ron Burgundy , " kind of a big deal " .
The worst part is that this is the second such outage in a week [ cnet.com ] !
It is starting to look as though Gmail has better uptime than BIS .
And no , before you ask , Bing has not mysteriously appeared on my phone .
The default search provider is and always has been Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I lost all data-related connections as of about 3:00 PM, yesterday, on my Verizon BB Storm.
As of this morning, the internet is back, but e-mail is still down.
I called Verizon's tech support yesterday and the rep said that they were flooded with calls from Blackberry users all asking the same questions, so I am pretty certain that this was, in the words of Ron Burgundy, "kind of a big deal".
The worst part is that this is the second such outage in a week [cnet.com]!
It is starting to look as though Gmail has better uptime than BIS.
And no, before you ask, Bing has not mysteriously appeared on my phone.
The default search provider is and always has been Google.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534702</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535532</id>
	<title>Best. Gift. Evar.</title>
	<author>gravyface</author>
	<datestamp>1259771520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mine's down and I've had the most productive day that I can remember.  Thank you, RIM!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mine 's down and I 've had the most productive day that I can remember .
Thank you , RIM !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mine's down and I've had the most productive day that I can remember.
Thank you, RIM!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30539420</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259752200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's worth noting, though, that many BlackBerrys have what's called "WAP Browsing," which allows you to browse directly to the Internet rather than via the BlackBerry service. I think the downside to this is that web pages are not as nicely compressed as when you connect to the BIS service, but on 3G networks (or even EDGE, really) that's less of an issue these days. During the outage I was able to WAP browse on my BlackBerry.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's worth noting , though , that many BlackBerrys have what 's called " WAP Browsing , " which allows you to browse directly to the Internet rather than via the BlackBerry service .
I think the downside to this is that web pages are not as nicely compressed as when you connect to the BIS service , but on 3G networks ( or even EDGE , really ) that 's less of an issue these days .
During the outage I was able to WAP browse on my BlackBerry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's worth noting, though, that many BlackBerrys have what's called "WAP Browsing," which allows you to browse directly to the Internet rather than via the BlackBerry service.
I think the downside to this is that web pages are not as nicely compressed as when you connect to the BIS service, but on 3G networks (or even EDGE, really) that's less of an issue these days.
During the outage I was able to WAP browse on my BlackBerry.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30536076</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30535080</id>
	<title>Re:Oh god no internet on my phone!</title>
	<author>MooseMuffin</author>
	<datestamp>1259768760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>You posted from that thing?  You're braver than I thought.
<br> <br>
Seriously though, you didn't actually come to slashdot and navigate through the comments on the default BB browser did you?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You posted from that thing ?
You 're braver than I thought .
Seriously though , you did n't actually come to slashdot and navigate through the comments on the default BB browser did you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You posted from that thing?
You're braver than I thought.
Seriously though, you didn't actually come to slashdot and navigate through the comments on the default BB browser did you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534778</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534990</id>
	<title>Re:Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259768160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For the moment, let's put your issues of raging jealousy aside.</p><p>Could you please explain what a "faux-retro American sedan" is?</p><p>If you want a Blackberry that badly, just pick one up. Their relatively cheap these days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For the moment , let 's put your issues of raging jealousy aside.Could you please explain what a " faux-retro American sedan " is ? If you want a Blackberry that badly , just pick one up .
Their relatively cheap these days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the moment, let's put your issues of raging jealousy aside.Could you please explain what a "faux-retro American sedan" is?If you want a Blackberry that badly, just pick one up.
Their relatively cheap these days.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534734</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_23_1326249.30534734</id>
	<title>Thank you Karma</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259766600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>BB users are the biggest type-A douchebags around.   They differ from their hipster iPhone douchebag brethren by typically wearing suits, talking loudly on their phones while waiting in line, and driving faux-retro American sedans.  I knew when I woke up this morning that it would be a good day, as if millions of douchebags cried out and were suddenly silenced.  Merry Christmas to all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>BB users are the biggest type-A douchebags around .
They differ from their hipster iPhone douchebag brethren by typically wearing suits , talking loudly on their phones while waiting in line , and driving faux-retro American sedans .
I knew when I woke up this morning that it would be a good day , as if millions of douchebags cried out and were suddenly silenced .
Merry Christmas to all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>BB users are the biggest type-A douchebags around.
They differ from their hipster iPhone douchebag brethren by typically wearing suits, talking loudly on their phones while waiting in line, and driving faux-retro American sedans.
I knew when I woke up this morning that it would be a good day, as if millions of douchebags cried out and were suddenly silenced.
Merry Christmas to all.</sentencetext>
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