<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_22_1421210</id>
	<title>CherryPal's $99 "Odd Lots" Netbook</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1261493220000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Robotech\_Master writes <i>"<a href="//linux.slashdot.org/story/08/07/22/1735222/250-Freescale-Based-Green-Cloud-Computer">CherryPal, which Slashdot last covered back in 2008</a>, has released <a href="http://www.cherrypal.com/openstore/product\_info.php?products\_id=5">a $99 netbook, the Africa</a>, aimed at the developing world but (unlike the OLPC) available for sale to the consumer. But unlike most netbooks, the Africa is <a href="http://www.teleread.org/2009/12/21/more-on-the-bits-and-pieces-99-cherrypal-africa-netbook/">not actually made to a set design</a>. Instead, it uses a hacker-like approach similar to the way home PC builders build their cheap beige boxes. CherryPal <a href="http://cherrypal.com/GreenOpenFair/2009/12/19/the-open-secret-behind-the-cherrypal-africa-or-a-brand-is-a-promise-or-understatement-by-design/">purchases odd lots of whatever components are available most inexpensively</a>, builds netbooks out of them, and calls them Africas. The resulting machines will at least meet and may exceed the minimum specs given on CherryPal's website, and may be built around an ARM, MIPS, or X86-based CPU depending on what parts CherryPal has on hand at the time. The device ships with 'at least' Windows CE or CherryPal's custom 'Green Maraschino' Debian-based Linux distro."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Robotech \ _Master writes " CherryPal , which Slashdot last covered back in 2008 , has released a $ 99 netbook , the Africa , aimed at the developing world but ( unlike the OLPC ) available for sale to the consumer .
But unlike most netbooks , the Africa is not actually made to a set design .
Instead , it uses a hacker-like approach similar to the way home PC builders build their cheap beige boxes .
CherryPal purchases odd lots of whatever components are available most inexpensively , builds netbooks out of them , and calls them Africas .
The resulting machines will at least meet and may exceed the minimum specs given on CherryPal 's website , and may be built around an ARM , MIPS , or X86-based CPU depending on what parts CherryPal has on hand at the time .
The device ships with 'at least ' Windows CE or CherryPal 's custom 'Green Maraschino ' Debian-based Linux distro .
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<sentencetext>Robotech\_Master writes "CherryPal, which Slashdot last covered back in 2008, has released a $99 netbook, the Africa, aimed at the developing world but (unlike the OLPC) available for sale to the consumer.
But unlike most netbooks, the Africa is not actually made to a set design.
Instead, it uses a hacker-like approach similar to the way home PC builders build their cheap beige boxes.
CherryPal purchases odd lots of whatever components are available most inexpensively, builds netbooks out of them, and calls them Africas.
The resulting machines will at least meet and may exceed the minimum specs given on CherryPal's website, and may be built around an ARM, MIPS, or X86-based CPU depending on what parts CherryPal has on hand at the time.
The device ships with 'at least' Windows CE or CherryPal's custom 'Green Maraschino' Debian-based Linux distro.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30526648</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261511160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> I just like having the freedom to mix and match parts as I see fit.</p></div><p>Apparently so did Packard Bell.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just like having the freedom to mix and match parts as I see fit.Apparently so did Packard Bell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I just like having the freedom to mix and match parts as I see fit.Apparently so did Packard Bell.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524252</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>MBGMorden</author>
	<datestamp>1261500420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a former Packard Bell owner, I must agree.  My Packard Bell (originally a 486 SX 20Mhz with 2MB of RAM and an 80MB hard drive) was the most non-standard thing I'd ever seen.</p><p>Motherboard form factor?  Completely made up by them.  It had 2 PS/2 ports in the back, a serial port, and a parallel port.  It had 4 ISA slots but they were on a riser card.  Not reusing this case for anything else.</p><p>Power supply?  It was reminiscent of the standard AT power supply in that it was hard on/off, but that too was custom.  Instead of cables attached to a switch which completed the circuit (or a switch actually on the box), this thing had a giant plastic arm that ran the length of the case from front to back and into the power supply to toggle on and off.</p><p>The memory expansion slots?  It had 4 empty ones - the base 2MB of memory was soldered straight onto the board.  To upgrade the thing you had to fill all 4 slots - all or nothing.</p><p>Processor upgrade?  They made it an option in the stupidest way.  The CPU was soldered straight into the board much like the memory was.  If you wanted to upgrade the processor, they provided a SECOND CPU socket that shipped empty.  You want to upgrade you had to plug a new CPU into the replacement socket and then use a jumper to tell the board to use that socket instead of the built in CPU.</p><p>I did eventually do some upgrades on it.  The 80MB hard drive got moved to 800MB.  I bumped the RAM from 2MB to 6MB.  Put in a sound card and CD-ROM drive.  I also eventually got an Intel Overdrive chip for that extra socket and moved from the 486 SX 20Mhz to a 486 DX 75Mhz (strange that a 55Mhz increase in clock speed made such a difference - back then the machine was several times faster - these days 55Mhz isn't even noticeable<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)).</p><p>Still, upgrading that system always was a hassle to find things that worked.  Aside from laptops, that was the last mass produced system I ever owned.  I just like having the freedom to mix and match parts as I see fit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a former Packard Bell owner , I must agree .
My Packard Bell ( originally a 486 SX 20Mhz with 2MB of RAM and an 80MB hard drive ) was the most non-standard thing I 'd ever seen.Motherboard form factor ?
Completely made up by them .
It had 2 PS/2 ports in the back , a serial port , and a parallel port .
It had 4 ISA slots but they were on a riser card .
Not reusing this case for anything else.Power supply ?
It was reminiscent of the standard AT power supply in that it was hard on/off , but that too was custom .
Instead of cables attached to a switch which completed the circuit ( or a switch actually on the box ) , this thing had a giant plastic arm that ran the length of the case from front to back and into the power supply to toggle on and off.The memory expansion slots ?
It had 4 empty ones - the base 2MB of memory was soldered straight onto the board .
To upgrade the thing you had to fill all 4 slots - all or nothing.Processor upgrade ?
They made it an option in the stupidest way .
The CPU was soldered straight into the board much like the memory was .
If you wanted to upgrade the processor , they provided a SECOND CPU socket that shipped empty .
You want to upgrade you had to plug a new CPU into the replacement socket and then use a jumper to tell the board to use that socket instead of the built in CPU.I did eventually do some upgrades on it .
The 80MB hard drive got moved to 800MB .
I bumped the RAM from 2MB to 6MB .
Put in a sound card and CD-ROM drive .
I also eventually got an Intel Overdrive chip for that extra socket and moved from the 486 SX 20Mhz to a 486 DX 75Mhz ( strange that a 55Mhz increase in clock speed made such a difference - back then the machine was several times faster - these days 55Mhz is n't even noticeable : ) ) .Still , upgrading that system always was a hassle to find things that worked .
Aside from laptops , that was the last mass produced system I ever owned .
I just like having the freedom to mix and match parts as I see fit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a former Packard Bell owner, I must agree.
My Packard Bell (originally a 486 SX 20Mhz with 2MB of RAM and an 80MB hard drive) was the most non-standard thing I'd ever seen.Motherboard form factor?
Completely made up by them.
It had 2 PS/2 ports in the back, a serial port, and a parallel port.
It had 4 ISA slots but they were on a riser card.
Not reusing this case for anything else.Power supply?
It was reminiscent of the standard AT power supply in that it was hard on/off, but that too was custom.
Instead of cables attached to a switch which completed the circuit (or a switch actually on the box), this thing had a giant plastic arm that ran the length of the case from front to back and into the power supply to toggle on and off.The memory expansion slots?
It had 4 empty ones - the base 2MB of memory was soldered straight onto the board.
To upgrade the thing you had to fill all 4 slots - all or nothing.Processor upgrade?
They made it an option in the stupidest way.
The CPU was soldered straight into the board much like the memory was.
If you wanted to upgrade the processor, they provided a SECOND CPU socket that shipped empty.
You want to upgrade you had to plug a new CPU into the replacement socket and then use a jumper to tell the board to use that socket instead of the built in CPU.I did eventually do some upgrades on it.
The 80MB hard drive got moved to 800MB.
I bumped the RAM from 2MB to 6MB.
Put in a sound card and CD-ROM drive.
I also eventually got an Intel Overdrive chip for that extra socket and moved from the 486 SX 20Mhz to a 486 DX 75Mhz (strange that a 55Mhz increase in clock speed made such a difference - back then the machine was several times faster - these days 55Mhz isn't even noticeable :)).Still, upgrading that system always was a hassle to find things that worked.
Aside from laptops, that was the last mass produced system I ever owned.
I just like having the freedom to mix and match parts as I see fit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30525564</id>
	<title>Re:This is democratisation of hardware</title>
	<author>Haxzaw</author>
	<datestamp>1261506600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't understand why getting less developed nations on computers and the internet is such a fantastic move.  Perhaps those nations should finish their evolution, and work toward the tech honestly.  Seriously, help them improve their agriculture, gradually move them toward industrialization, and eventually they'll join the ranks of fully developed countries.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand why getting less developed nations on computers and the internet is such a fantastic move .
Perhaps those nations should finish their evolution , and work toward the tech honestly .
Seriously , help them improve their agriculture , gradually move them toward industrialization , and eventually they 'll join the ranks of fully developed countries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand why getting less developed nations on computers and the internet is such a fantastic move.
Perhaps those nations should finish their evolution, and work toward the tech honestly.
Seriously, help them improve their agriculture, gradually move them toward industrialization, and eventually they'll join the ranks of fully developed countries.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524228</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524174</id>
	<title>Re:It's the anti-apple</title>
	<author>jruschme</author>
	<datestamp>1261500120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem is that you are thinking of it as a general-purpose computer rather than an appliance.</p><p>Look at it this way- I go to Best Buy and purchase a particular model of wireless router; it is version 'n' of the hardware and runs a Linux core. The next week, I go to Staples and purchase another of the exact same brand and model of router, only to receive version 'n+1' which now runs VxWorks. Both meet the same functional specifications as outlined on the package and both have the same configuration GUI. Nowhere was I guaranteed that I would get a Linux-based router.</p><p>Its the same here. Each Africa may have different internal hardware, but that is all hidden by running different ports of the same OS and applications and only guaranteeing the same minimal functional level. The issue comes when a power user decides to move beyond the installed functionality by adding a software package which is not available for the archtecture of his specific Africa (ever try to find modern CE software for anything other than ARM?), but this is not the target audience of the device.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is that you are thinking of it as a general-purpose computer rather than an appliance.Look at it this way- I go to Best Buy and purchase a particular model of wireless router ; it is version 'n ' of the hardware and runs a Linux core .
The next week , I go to Staples and purchase another of the exact same brand and model of router , only to receive version 'n + 1 ' which now runs VxWorks .
Both meet the same functional specifications as outlined on the package and both have the same configuration GUI .
Nowhere was I guaranteed that I would get a Linux-based router.Its the same here .
Each Africa may have different internal hardware , but that is all hidden by running different ports of the same OS and applications and only guaranteeing the same minimal functional level .
The issue comes when a power user decides to move beyond the installed functionality by adding a software package which is not available for the archtecture of his specific Africa ( ever try to find modern CE software for anything other than ARM ?
) , but this is not the target audience of the device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is that you are thinking of it as a general-purpose computer rather than an appliance.Look at it this way- I go to Best Buy and purchase a particular model of wireless router; it is version 'n' of the hardware and runs a Linux core.
The next week, I go to Staples and purchase another of the exact same brand and model of router, only to receive version 'n+1' which now runs VxWorks.
Both meet the same functional specifications as outlined on the package and both have the same configuration GUI.
Nowhere was I guaranteed that I would get a Linux-based router.Its the same here.
Each Africa may have different internal hardware, but that is all hidden by running different ports of the same OS and applications and only guaranteeing the same minimal functional level.
The issue comes when a power user decides to move beyond the installed functionality by adding a software package which is not available for the archtecture of his specific Africa (ever try to find modern CE software for anything other than ARM?
), but this is not the target audience of the device.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524348</id>
	<title>Might be worthwhile (cache!)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261500960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This sounds kind of great, actually. If the site wasn't slashdotted.<br>
<br>
I've been waiting for a netbook to come out that meets my stringent standards. (price &lt; $200USD, standard keyboard layout, decent battery life, pocket-size/not much bigger than a paperback book) Maybe cutting that price in half will loosen my ideals on some other parts. Unlikely, but possible. <br>
<br>
Go go <a href="http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:AICe5m3eb3MJ:www.cherrypal.com/openstore/product\_info.php\%3Fproducts\_id\%3D5" title="74.125.95.132" rel="nofollow">Google Cache!</a> [74.125.95.132]</htmltext>
<tokenext>This sounds kind of great , actually .
If the site was n't slashdotted .
I 've been waiting for a netbook to come out that meets my stringent standards .
( price Go go Google Cache !
[ 74.125.95.132 ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This sounds kind of great, actually.
If the site wasn't slashdotted.
I've been waiting for a netbook to come out that meets my stringent standards.
(price 

Go go Google Cache!
[74.125.95.132]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523892</id>
	<title>Re:seems a bit pricey</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261498680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Depends on how easy the crap is to swap out of the bag.</p><p>$200 and no ability to fix things is way worse than $99 and an easy way to replace what breaks. Especially in Africa, where everything breaks, and jury-rigged fixes are the norm.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends on how easy the crap is to swap out of the bag. $ 200 and no ability to fix things is way worse than $ 99 and an easy way to replace what breaks .
Especially in Africa , where everything breaks , and jury-rigged fixes are the norm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends on how easy the crap is to swap out of the bag.$200 and no ability to fix things is way worse than $99 and an easy way to replace what breaks.
Especially in Africa, where everything breaks, and jury-rigged fixes are the norm.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523592</id>
	<title>seems a bit pricey</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261497060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Considering you can get legit hardware in a netbook now for around $200, getting what is essentially a bag o' crap for half that isn't much of deal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering you can get legit hardware in a netbook now for around $ 200 , getting what is essentially a bag o ' crap for half that is n't much of deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering you can get legit hardware in a netbook now for around $200, getting what is essentially a bag o' crap for half that isn't much of deal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30527882</id>
	<title>Sharp Mobilon Pro PV-5000</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261515300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Long before anyone invented the word "netbook", Sharp released a small<br>computer that looked much like the CP Africa. It was called<br>the<a href="http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/wce/21/mobilonpro.jpg" title="pocketpcfaq.com" rel="nofollow">Sharp Mobilon Pro PV-5000</a> [pocketpcfaq.com].<br>I bought two of them on sale for $100 each, and I'm still using them<br>today. My only complaint was the crappy battery life, but not bad for<br>an "instant-on" web browser.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Long before anyone invented the word " netbook " , Sharp released a smallcomputer that looked much like the CP Africa .
It was calledtheSharp Mobilon Pro PV-5000 [ pocketpcfaq.com ] .I bought two of them on sale for $ 100 each , and I 'm still using themtoday .
My only complaint was the crappy battery life , but not bad foran " instant-on " web browser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Long before anyone invented the word "netbook", Sharp released a smallcomputer that looked much like the CP Africa.
It was calledtheSharp Mobilon Pro PV-5000 [pocketpcfaq.com].I bought two of them on sale for $100 each, and I'm still using themtoday.
My only complaint was the crappy battery life, but not bad foran "instant-on" web browser.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524136</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>Drummergeek0</author>
	<datestamp>1261500000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh god, the night mares, WHY DID YOU REMIND ME.</p><p>I remember fixing PBs back in the late 90's, one simple upgrade lasted over a year because the computer decided to stop working, then work again, then stop working, etc. Thank god those machines are no longer available.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh god , the night mares , WHY DID YOU REMIND ME.I remember fixing PBs back in the late 90 's , one simple upgrade lasted over a year because the computer decided to stop working , then work again , then stop working , etc .
Thank god those machines are no longer available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh god, the night mares, WHY DID YOU REMIND ME.I remember fixing PBs back in the late 90's, one simple upgrade lasted over a year because the computer decided to stop working, then work again, then stop working, etc.
Thank god those machines are no longer available.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30528498</id>
	<title>Green Maraschino?</title>
	<author>edbob</author>
	<datestamp>1261474380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So where can one find this Debian-based distro?  I Googled for it, but only found one blog posting and a bunch of articles about canned fruit.  I also checked on Distrowatch and they have nothing.  I'd kind of like to play with it before I buy one of the machines.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So where can one find this Debian-based distro ?
I Googled for it , but only found one blog posting and a bunch of articles about canned fruit .
I also checked on Distrowatch and they have nothing .
I 'd kind of like to play with it before I buy one of the machines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So where can one find this Debian-based distro?
I Googled for it, but only found one blog posting and a bunch of articles about canned fruit.
I also checked on Distrowatch and they have nothing.
I'd kind of like to play with it before I buy one of the machines.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524500</id>
	<title>Re:This is democratisation of hardware</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261501620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"It's what the OLPC should have been.<br>Commodity hardware, whatever's cheapest.<br>And a Linux-based OS"</p><p>OLPC is that and more: sunlight readable screen, robust, wireless mesh networking, even more energy efficient than this "Africa" device.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" It 's what the OLPC should have been.Commodity hardware , whatever 's cheapest.And a Linux-based OS " OLPC is that and more : sunlight readable screen , robust , wireless mesh networking , even more energy efficient than this " Africa " device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It's what the OLPC should have been.Commodity hardware, whatever's cheapest.And a Linux-based OS"OLPC is that and more: sunlight readable screen, robust, wireless mesh networking, even more energy efficient than this "Africa" device.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524112</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>rainmaestro</author>
	<datestamp>1261499940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>PB is still around in Europe. Last year they were acquired by Acer as a ride-along from the Acer buyout of Gateway.</p><p>And yeah, their machines were the pinnacle of shittiness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>PB is still around in Europe .
Last year they were acquired by Acer as a ride-along from the Acer buyout of Gateway.And yeah , their machines were the pinnacle of shittiness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PB is still around in Europe.
Last year they were acquired by Acer as a ride-along from the Acer buyout of Gateway.And yeah, their machines were the pinnacle of shittiness.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524126</id>
	<title>Woot!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261500000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it's a Bag o' Crap, I'll take 3!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's a Bag o ' Crap , I 'll take 3 !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's a Bag o' Crap, I'll take 3!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30526586</id>
	<title>We've been over this before.</title>
	<author>CAIMLAS</author>
	<datestamp>1261510920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We've been over this before, and it's starting to get irritating. I really, really, really want to want one of these, but when netbooks are available refurbished with 1G of RAM and 16G SSD for $250...</p><p>We've been hearing about the sub-$100 netbook/computer now for about 2 years, it seems. Invariably it's an ARM processor based device, and it's going to revolutionize computing. Some promises sounded nice. Mostly, the products are vaporware or just crap.</p><p>Basically, this device has the specifications of a handheld CE device from 5 years+ ago, plus a little (and i do mean <i>a little</i>) extra RAM. 256Mb isn't enough for much anymore. It's dated. As a special-purpose device to be hacked, or to be used as a very basic connectivity/mobile entry/admin device, sure. It would beat a cell phone for any of those tasks. But its utility for even checking webmail is severely questionable.</p><p>(On the other hand, if it had a touchscreen, I'd pay $150 for it without thinking twice.)</p><p>For the same price, you can get a refurbished first-generation Eee 7". It has twice as much memory, a processor twice as fast, and USB 2.0 instead of 1.1. It's also extensively hackable: you can add to it and modify the hell out of it. The battery life is also comparable (more than 3h but fewer than 6h).</p><p>Let me know when I can get a $200 netbook with a 9" display, 1GHz or so ARM processor (with the kind of dedicated coprocessors one would expect for audio/video these days) and 1Gb of RAM. You know, something which might be able to compete on performance with a 10-year-old desktop. Even better, let me know when it hits the 1-1-1 trifecta: 1Gb, 1GHz, $100. Of course, I expect to have to wait 15 years for such a device - and then, I'll find it on eBay.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've been over this before , and it 's starting to get irritating .
I really , really , really want to want one of these , but when netbooks are available refurbished with 1G of RAM and 16G SSD for $ 250...We 've been hearing about the sub- $ 100 netbook/computer now for about 2 years , it seems .
Invariably it 's an ARM processor based device , and it 's going to revolutionize computing .
Some promises sounded nice .
Mostly , the products are vaporware or just crap.Basically , this device has the specifications of a handheld CE device from 5 years + ago , plus a little ( and i do mean a little ) extra RAM .
256Mb is n't enough for much anymore .
It 's dated .
As a special-purpose device to be hacked , or to be used as a very basic connectivity/mobile entry/admin device , sure .
It would beat a cell phone for any of those tasks .
But its utility for even checking webmail is severely questionable .
( On the other hand , if it had a touchscreen , I 'd pay $ 150 for it without thinking twice .
) For the same price , you can get a refurbished first-generation Eee 7 " .
It has twice as much memory , a processor twice as fast , and USB 2.0 instead of 1.1 .
It 's also extensively hackable : you can add to it and modify the hell out of it .
The battery life is also comparable ( more than 3h but fewer than 6h ) .Let me know when I can get a $ 200 netbook with a 9 " display , 1GHz or so ARM processor ( with the kind of dedicated coprocessors one would expect for audio/video these days ) and 1Gb of RAM .
You know , something which might be able to compete on performance with a 10-year-old desktop .
Even better , let me know when it hits the 1-1-1 trifecta : 1Gb , 1GHz , $ 100 .
Of course , I expect to have to wait 15 years for such a device - and then , I 'll find it on eBay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've been over this before, and it's starting to get irritating.
I really, really, really want to want one of these, but when netbooks are available refurbished with 1G of RAM and 16G SSD for $250...We've been hearing about the sub-$100 netbook/computer now for about 2 years, it seems.
Invariably it's an ARM processor based device, and it's going to revolutionize computing.
Some promises sounded nice.
Mostly, the products are vaporware or just crap.Basically, this device has the specifications of a handheld CE device from 5 years+ ago, plus a little (and i do mean a little) extra RAM.
256Mb isn't enough for much anymore.
It's dated.
As a special-purpose device to be hacked, or to be used as a very basic connectivity/mobile entry/admin device, sure.
It would beat a cell phone for any of those tasks.
But its utility for even checking webmail is severely questionable.
(On the other hand, if it had a touchscreen, I'd pay $150 for it without thinking twice.
)For the same price, you can get a refurbished first-generation Eee 7".
It has twice as much memory, a processor twice as fast, and USB 2.0 instead of 1.1.
It's also extensively hackable: you can add to it and modify the hell out of it.
The battery life is also comparable (more than 3h but fewer than 6h).Let me know when I can get a $200 netbook with a 9" display, 1GHz or so ARM processor (with the kind of dedicated coprocessors one would expect for audio/video these days) and 1Gb of RAM.
You know, something which might be able to compete on performance with a 10-year-old desktop.
Even better, let me know when it hits the 1-1-1 trifecta: 1Gb, 1GHz, $100.
Of course, I expect to have to wait 15 years for such a device - and then, I'll find it on eBay.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523616</id>
	<title>Hmm, I wonder if I can cherry-pick parts</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261497240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder, if I'm willing to wait or pay extra, can I specify parts, like "any x86" or "anything but x86"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder , if I 'm willing to wait or pay extra , can I specify parts , like " any x86 " or " anything but x86 " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder, if I'm willing to wait or pay extra, can I specify parts, like "any x86" or "anything but x86"?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30534154</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>jseale</author>
	<datestamp>1259759700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If Dell had their hands in the OLPC, it'd come out something like this. Now if somebody could market this kind of thing here in the States, that'd be wunderbar. Nice going CherryPal!</htmltext>
<tokenext>If Dell had their hands in the OLPC , it 'd come out something like this .
Now if somebody could market this kind of thing here in the States , that 'd be wunderbar .
Nice going CherryPal !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Dell had their hands in the OLPC, it'd come out something like this.
Now if somebody could market this kind of thing here in the States, that'd be wunderbar.
Nice going CherryPal!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523550</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30566034</id>
	<title>Re:They will get buried in returns</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261912320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I should think the delivery charges would limit that.  Why should they refund your shipping if it isn't defective?  At $19 for delivery, plus whatever it costs for you to return it, returning the device repeated times to get one is not going to be a very cost effective way to get a cheap netbook, might as well just get a second hand one off ebay, at least you know what you are buying, not to mention that if people keep returning them just because they don't like the specs, they'll keep sending them out and you could get one you already sent back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I should think the delivery charges would limit that .
Why should they refund your shipping if it is n't defective ?
At $ 19 for delivery , plus whatever it costs for you to return it , returning the device repeated times to get one is not going to be a very cost effective way to get a cheap netbook , might as well just get a second hand one off ebay , at least you know what you are buying , not to mention that if people keep returning them just because they do n't like the specs , they 'll keep sending them out and you could get one you already sent back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I should think the delivery charges would limit that.
Why should they refund your shipping if it isn't defective?
At $19 for delivery, plus whatever it costs for you to return it, returning the device repeated times to get one is not going to be a very cost effective way to get a cheap netbook, might as well just get a second hand one off ebay, at least you know what you are buying, not to mention that if people keep returning them just because they don't like the specs, they'll keep sending them out and you could get one you already sent back.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524452</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30529666</id>
	<title>Re:Specs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261479240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Congratulations, now that link's down too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Congratulations , now that link 's down too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Congratulations, now that link's down too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523854</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524196</id>
	<title>Re:ARM/MIPS or X86?</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1261500180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd be more concerned about the prospect of getting a mix of linux and WinCE, myself.<br> <br>

Obviously, none of your standard corporate IT minion strategies are going to work with this stuff; but I'd take a mix of architectures, all running linux, over a bunch of machines of a single architecture, running a mix of linux and WinCE.<br> <br>

Once you get beyond the bootloader, debian/X86 feels almost the same as debian/ARM. WinCE feels like neither linux nor real windows.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd be more concerned about the prospect of getting a mix of linux and WinCE , myself .
Obviously , none of your standard corporate IT minion strategies are going to work with this stuff ; but I 'd take a mix of architectures , all running linux , over a bunch of machines of a single architecture , running a mix of linux and WinCE .
Once you get beyond the bootloader , debian/X86 feels almost the same as debian/ARM .
WinCE feels like neither linux nor real windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd be more concerned about the prospect of getting a mix of linux and WinCE, myself.
Obviously, none of your standard corporate IT minion strategies are going to work with this stuff; but I'd take a mix of architectures, all running linux, over a bunch of machines of a single architecture, running a mix of linux and WinCE.
Once you get beyond the bootloader, debian/X86 feels almost the same as debian/ARM.
WinCE feels like neither linux nor real windows.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523982</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523778</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm, I wonder if I can cherry-pick parts</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1261498080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Quantity 1? Probably not.<br> <br>

Quantity 100+ I suspect they'd be more than happy to talk.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Quantity 1 ?
Probably not .
Quantity 100 + I suspect they 'd be more than happy to talk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quantity 1?
Probably not.
Quantity 100+ I suspect they'd be more than happy to talk.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523616</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30528458</id>
	<title>Wow!</title>
	<author>Skal Tura</author>
	<datestamp>1261474200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Finally just not vaporware?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Going to get one.</p><p>I wish i could get even cheaper ones without screen, keyb, battery, wifi etc. just PS/2, USB, VGA and Ethernet connections?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Finally just not vaporware ?
: ) Going to get one.I wish i could get even cheaper ones without screen , keyb , battery , wifi etc .
just PS/2 , USB , VGA and Ethernet connections ?
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finally just not vaporware?
:)Going to get one.I wish i could get even cheaper ones without screen, keyb, battery, wifi etc.
just PS/2, USB, VGA and Ethernet connections?
;)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30528234</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261473240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is this netbook built in Africa?<br>Was it designed by Africans?</p><p>We all know the answer to that.</p><p>When your children are starving because your country has been destroyed by millions of hate-filled, selfish third world parasites, will you then admit that you were wrong all along? What will you tell your children?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this netbook built in Africa ? Was it designed by Africans ? We all know the answer to that.When your children are starving because your country has been destroyed by millions of hate-filled , selfish third world parasites , will you then admit that you were wrong all along ?
What will you tell your children ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this netbook built in Africa?Was it designed by Africans?We all know the answer to that.When your children are starving because your country has been destroyed by millions of hate-filled, selfish third world parasites, will you then admit that you were wrong all along?
What will you tell your children?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523550</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30528814</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>Pathwalker</author>
	<datestamp>1261475760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to admit; I liked the ISA riser card in my ancient crappy Packard Bell 386sx.</p><p>When you wanted to swap cards, you just undid one screw, and the whole assembly (riser card, and the surrounding frame that the cards screwed into)  came out. You had unobstructed access to all of the cards, and just plugged the riser card back in once you were done.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to admit ; I liked the ISA riser card in my ancient crappy Packard Bell 386sx.When you wanted to swap cards , you just undid one screw , and the whole assembly ( riser card , and the surrounding frame that the cards screwed into ) came out .
You had unobstructed access to all of the cards , and just plugged the riser card back in once you were done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to admit; I liked the ISA riser card in my ancient crappy Packard Bell 386sx.When you wanted to swap cards, you just undid one screw, and the whole assembly (riser card, and the surrounding frame that the cards screwed into)  came out.
You had unobstructed access to all of the cards, and just plugged the riser card back in once you were done.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524252</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30528640</id>
	<title>Re:ARM/MIPS or X86?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261474980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Funny you should mention feeding Africa.</p><p>Why isn't Africa feeding Europe?</p><p>Why isn't Europe demanding that Africans work extra hours every day to pay taxes, which are then given to the poor, starving EUROPEANS who are too stupid to grow their own food?</p><p>Whoops, it's the other way round, isn't it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny you should mention feeding Africa.Why is n't Africa feeding Europe ? Why is n't Europe demanding that Africans work extra hours every day to pay taxes , which are then given to the poor , starving EUROPEANS who are too stupid to grow their own food ? Whoops , it 's the other way round , is n't it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny you should mention feeding Africa.Why isn't Africa feeding Europe?Why isn't Europe demanding that Africans work extra hours every day to pay taxes, which are then given to the poor, starving EUROPEANS who are too stupid to grow their own food?Whoops, it's the other way round, isn't it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523982</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30543126</id>
	<title>Re:Green Maraschino?</title>
	<author>blue-slonopotam</author>
	<datestamp>1261660620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Exactly,

I was planning to buy one to toy around, and decided to make sure I have all the sources.... and did not find the whole distro!

I think this is a scam.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly , I was planning to buy one to toy around , and decided to make sure I have all the sources.... and did not find the whole distro !
I think this is a scam .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly,

I was planning to buy one to toy around, and decided to make sure I have all the sources.... and did not find the whole distro!
I think this is a scam.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30528498</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30526996</id>
	<title>Re:seems a bit pricey</title>
	<author>CAIMLAS</author>
	<datestamp>1261512420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Everything breaks" in Africa not so much due to an inherent quality possessed by the continent, but by its people. It's difficult to 'have something nice' when doing so makes you a target for theft and murder pretty much anywhere on the continent.</p><p>Connectivity goes down because the power and communication lines are stolen for their value in raw materials.</p><p>Power goes down because transformers are stolen for their resale value. Or maybe some militant/rebel/whatever shot it for fun. The power then does not come up for weeks because the company responsible has to find someone capable of fixing it who isn't off somewhere drinking off his last pay check.</p><p>Then, someone tries to fix the mess and jury rigs it. The company 'representative' comes out to fix it, see that it was "fixed" and goes to find a bottle.</p><p>My aunt was a missionary to Togo, Africa. Not necessarily representative of the continent, but a part of Africa none the less. They had to live in a walled compound with its own dedicated generators due to the robber-barons who lived by. The generators were primarily for nighttime security lighting and indoor lighting/computer use for a couple hours. They had wired electricity only several times in the decade that they were there (due to the lines being constantly torn up for scrap). They finally did fibre a couple years ago and the area has had intermittent connectivity, but still no regular power.</p><p>They usually heard gunfire at night, and often found where the bullets impacted the walls.</p><p>Painting the residents of Africa as victims is foolish. It shows the people of Africa disrespect - as if they are unable to shape their own destiny. Africa is the way it is because the Africans living there refuse (or do not know how to) to make it better.</p><p>A $100 laptop won't make any difference, except maybe lead to a couple more thefts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Everything breaks " in Africa not so much due to an inherent quality possessed by the continent , but by its people .
It 's difficult to 'have something nice ' when doing so makes you a target for theft and murder pretty much anywhere on the continent.Connectivity goes down because the power and communication lines are stolen for their value in raw materials.Power goes down because transformers are stolen for their resale value .
Or maybe some militant/rebel/whatever shot it for fun .
The power then does not come up for weeks because the company responsible has to find someone capable of fixing it who is n't off somewhere drinking off his last pay check.Then , someone tries to fix the mess and jury rigs it .
The company 'representative ' comes out to fix it , see that it was " fixed " and goes to find a bottle.My aunt was a missionary to Togo , Africa .
Not necessarily representative of the continent , but a part of Africa none the less .
They had to live in a walled compound with its own dedicated generators due to the robber-barons who lived by .
The generators were primarily for nighttime security lighting and indoor lighting/computer use for a couple hours .
They had wired electricity only several times in the decade that they were there ( due to the lines being constantly torn up for scrap ) .
They finally did fibre a couple years ago and the area has had intermittent connectivity , but still no regular power.They usually heard gunfire at night , and often found where the bullets impacted the walls.Painting the residents of Africa as victims is foolish .
It shows the people of Africa disrespect - as if they are unable to shape their own destiny .
Africa is the way it is because the Africans living there refuse ( or do not know how to ) to make it better.A $ 100 laptop wo n't make any difference , except maybe lead to a couple more thefts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Everything breaks" in Africa not so much due to an inherent quality possessed by the continent, but by its people.
It's difficult to 'have something nice' when doing so makes you a target for theft and murder pretty much anywhere on the continent.Connectivity goes down because the power and communication lines are stolen for their value in raw materials.Power goes down because transformers are stolen for their resale value.
Or maybe some militant/rebel/whatever shot it for fun.
The power then does not come up for weeks because the company responsible has to find someone capable of fixing it who isn't off somewhere drinking off his last pay check.Then, someone tries to fix the mess and jury rigs it.
The company 'representative' comes out to fix it, see that it was "fixed" and goes to find a bottle.My aunt was a missionary to Togo, Africa.
Not necessarily representative of the continent, but a part of Africa none the less.
They had to live in a walled compound with its own dedicated generators due to the robber-barons who lived by.
The generators were primarily for nighttime security lighting and indoor lighting/computer use for a couple hours.
They had wired electricity only several times in the decade that they were there (due to the lines being constantly torn up for scrap).
They finally did fibre a couple years ago and the area has had intermittent connectivity, but still no regular power.They usually heard gunfire at night, and often found where the bullets impacted the walls.Painting the residents of Africa as victims is foolish.
It shows the people of Africa disrespect - as if they are unable to shape their own destiny.
Africa is the way it is because the Africans living there refuse (or do not know how to) to make it better.A $100 laptop won't make any difference, except maybe lead to a couple more thefts.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524064</id>
	<title>Re:seems a bit pricey</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1261499700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It seems CherryPal's netbook kind of goes against that jury-rigging fact. If there's dozens of types of parts, you probably won't be able to make one working laptop from a few non-working ones. Unless CherryPal planned for that, of course.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems CherryPal 's netbook kind of goes against that jury-rigging fact .
If there 's dozens of types of parts , you probably wo n't be able to make one working laptop from a few non-working ones .
Unless CherryPal planned for that , of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems CherryPal's netbook kind of goes against that jury-rigging fact.
If there's dozens of types of parts, you probably won't be able to make one working laptop from a few non-working ones.
Unless CherryPal planned for that, of course.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524222</id>
	<title>Re:It's the anti-apple</title>
	<author>Dishevel</author>
	<datestamp>1261500360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is funny that you post on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. and yet have no idea how hardware and OS's work together. Or are you just typing cause you could find nothing better to do?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is funny that you post on / .
and yet have no idea how hardware and OS 's work together .
Or are you just typing cause you could find nothing better to do ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is funny that you post on /.
and yet have no idea how hardware and OS's work together.
Or are you just typing cause you could find nothing better to do?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523666</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524236</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>jyoull</author>
	<datestamp>1261500360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow. I had forgotten all about Packard Bell. OMG. The pain. The paaaaaaaaiiiiinnnnnnnnn.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow .
I had forgotten all about Packard Bell .
OMG. The pain .
The paaaaaaaaiiiiinnnnnnnnn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow.
I had forgotten all about Packard Bell.
OMG. The pain.
The paaaaaaaaiiiiinnnnnnnnn.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523978</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30526186</id>
	<title>Re:ARM/MIPS or X86?</title>
	<author>sowth</author>
	<datestamp>1261509420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd be concerned that the "linux" they ship with would be really crappy (like Xandros on the EEE), and their hardware wouldn't be compatible with any regular distro with decent developer tools and such.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd be concerned that the " linux " they ship with would be really crappy ( like Xandros on the EEE ) , and their hardware would n't be compatible with any regular distro with decent developer tools and such .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd be concerned that the "linux" they ship with would be really crappy (like Xandros on the EEE), and their hardware wouldn't be compatible with any regular distro with decent developer tools and such.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524994</id>
	<title>Can that really be cost effective?</title>
	<author>AusIV</author>
	<datestamp>1261503720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I always thought the reason it was cheaper to build a system from parts than buy a pre-built box was just a matter of scale. It's not hard to find a handful of parts that are on sale because they're beginning to be antiquated and retailers are trying to get rid of them, but I always assumed the price I paid for the parts was still above the normal wholesale price.</p><p>I can imagine that in bulk and with the right connections, you might be able to get these parts a bit below the normal wholesale price. The thing I have trouble with, is the idea that you can get enough of a discount to offset the cost of supporting random hardware configurations and software for several different CPU architectures.</p><p>Is this really cost effective?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I always thought the reason it was cheaper to build a system from parts than buy a pre-built box was just a matter of scale .
It 's not hard to find a handful of parts that are on sale because they 're beginning to be antiquated and retailers are trying to get rid of them , but I always assumed the price I paid for the parts was still above the normal wholesale price.I can imagine that in bulk and with the right connections , you might be able to get these parts a bit below the normal wholesale price .
The thing I have trouble with , is the idea that you can get enough of a discount to offset the cost of supporting random hardware configurations and software for several different CPU architectures.Is this really cost effective ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always thought the reason it was cheaper to build a system from parts than buy a pre-built box was just a matter of scale.
It's not hard to find a handful of parts that are on sale because they're beginning to be antiquated and retailers are trying to get rid of them, but I always assumed the price I paid for the parts was still above the normal wholesale price.I can imagine that in bulk and with the right connections, you might be able to get these parts a bit below the normal wholesale price.
The thing I have trouble with, is the idea that you can get enough of a discount to offset the cost of supporting random hardware configurations and software for several different CPU architectures.Is this really cost effective?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30526644</id>
	<title>Racist?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261511160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does calling a "half-assed managery of parts" computer an Africa seem terribly racist to you? It does to me.</p><p>I'd like one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does calling a " half-assed managery of parts " computer an Africa seem terribly racist to you ?
It does to me.I 'd like one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does calling a "half-assed managery of parts" computer an Africa seem terribly racist to you?
It does to me.I'd like one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30527262</id>
	<title>Re:cool</title>
	<author>technosnobbery</author>
	<datestamp>1261513380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They'd better be disposable - can you imagine repairs on a $99 grab-bag of parts?

This is an excellent way to add to the piles of e-waste already streaming towards these same countries.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 'd better be disposable - can you imagine repairs on a $ 99 grab-bag of parts ?
This is an excellent way to add to the piles of e-waste already streaming towards these same countries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'd better be disposable - can you imagine repairs on a $99 grab-bag of parts?
This is an excellent way to add to the piles of e-waste already streaming towards these same countries.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30528978</id>
	<title>Re:seems a bit pricey</title>
	<author>sunderland56</author>
	<datestamp>1261476360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seems a *LOT* pricey for a computer you can't run any software on (other than what comes pre-packaged with the unit).
<br> <br>
With a wide variety of operating systems, processors, and capabilities, who the heck would ever develop software for it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems a * LOT * pricey for a computer you ca n't run any software on ( other than what comes pre-packaged with the unit ) .
With a wide variety of operating systems , processors , and capabilities , who the heck would ever develop software for it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems a *LOT* pricey for a computer you can't run any software on (other than what comes pre-packaged with the unit).
With a wide variety of operating systems, processors, and capabilities, who the heck would ever develop software for it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523592</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523978</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261499160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dell has NOTHING on Packard Bell.  I'm not sure what happened to them, but their equipment was shit and totally random. There are a few differences with CherryPal, though.</p><p>Since CP has their own Debian distro, people won't have to wonder if their are Linux drivers for the hardware found in the system.  If it ships, it works and has drivers.  Packard Bell was a challenge.  "Oh.  They shipped one of THOSE parts this time!"</p><p>PB wasn't guaranteeing minimum specs, they were saying exact specs on CPU, RAM and HD.  CP's "at least this" is an interesting idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dell has NOTHING on Packard Bell .
I 'm not sure what happened to them , but their equipment was shit and totally random .
There are a few differences with CherryPal , though.Since CP has their own Debian distro , people wo n't have to wonder if their are Linux drivers for the hardware found in the system .
If it ships , it works and has drivers .
Packard Bell was a challenge .
" Oh. They shipped one of THOSE parts this time !
" PB was n't guaranteeing minimum specs , they were saying exact specs on CPU , RAM and HD .
CP 's " at least this " is an interesting idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dell has NOTHING on Packard Bell.
I'm not sure what happened to them, but their equipment was shit and totally random.
There are a few differences with CherryPal, though.Since CP has their own Debian distro, people won't have to wonder if their are Linux drivers for the hardware found in the system.
If it ships, it works and has drivers.
Packard Bell was a challenge.
"Oh.  They shipped one of THOSE parts this time!
"PB wasn't guaranteeing minimum specs, they were saying exact specs on CPU, RAM and HD.
CP's "at least this" is an interesting idea.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524308</id>
	<title>Re:ARM/MIPS or X86?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261500720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, that happens a fair amount in the 1st world food industry where they use whatever commodity ingredient is cheapest at the time. That's why you see ingrediant labels stating "may contain one or more of the following: soybean oil, sunflower oil, lard, peanut oil" etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , that happens a fair amount in the 1st world food industry where they use whatever commodity ingredient is cheapest at the time .
That 's why you see ingrediant labels stating " may contain one or more of the following : soybean oil , sunflower oil , lard , peanut oil " etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, that happens a fair amount in the 1st world food industry where they use whatever commodity ingredient is cheapest at the time.
That's why you see ingrediant labels stating "may contain one or more of the following: soybean oil, sunflower oil, lard, peanut oil" etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524442</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting</title>
	<author>rpbird</author>
	<datestamp>1261501320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Outside the core cities, poverty is so intense in rural areas, I don't see this device getting to the people who could actually benefit from it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Outside the core cities , poverty is so intense in rural areas , I do n't see this device getting to the people who could actually benefit from it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Outside the core cities, poverty is so intense in rural areas, I don't see this device getting to the people who could actually benefit from it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30533696</id>
	<title>Oh please.</title>
	<author>jotaeleemeese</author>
	<datestamp>1259749020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If anything it would pay homage to the inventiveness of African people. They can fix things in unexpected and very clever ways, because more often than not they can't buy the expensive replacement parts.</p><p>If anything such device would fit perfectly with the local culture (same thing anywhere else where original replacement parts are too expensive).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If anything it would pay homage to the inventiveness of African people .
They can fix things in unexpected and very clever ways , because more often than not they ca n't buy the expensive replacement parts.If anything such device would fit perfectly with the local culture ( same thing anywhere else where original replacement parts are too expensive ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If anything it would pay homage to the inventiveness of African people.
They can fix things in unexpected and very clever ways, because more often than not they can't buy the expensive replacement parts.If anything such device would fit perfectly with the local culture (same thing anywhere else where original replacement parts are too expensive).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30531586</id>
	<title>small, slow, sufficient</title>
	<author>foniksonik</author>
	<datestamp>1261491060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the slogan for this device says it all:</p><p>"small, slow, sufficient"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the slogan for this device says it all : " small , slow , sufficient "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the slogan for this device says it all:"small, slow, sufficient"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30525550</id>
	<title>Re:This is democratisation of hardware</title>
	<author>TaoPhoenix</author>
	<datestamp>1261506540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, let the OLPC be a different breed. Finally someone is doing what I carped on in a couple of Dot posts.</p><p>(Begin slightly excessive theatrics)<br>"Windows 7 (and Vista worse before that), Outlook 2010, and some new breeds of Linux require crispy shiny hardware.<br>Oh Noes! Who will Think Of The OldWare??"<br>(/End slightly excessive theatrics)</p><p>So even ignoring Vista like we all did, MS is right that Win7/Vista SP3 is in fact positioned perfectly for the upgrade cycle from XP era 2001-2010.</p><p>That means there will be a perfect storm of weaker hardware showing up. Wait, what's this? People LIKE weaker specs if they're cheap?</p><p>If they can put a bit of hacker humor into the whole affair, it could go really well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , let the OLPC be a different breed .
Finally someone is doing what I carped on in a couple of Dot posts .
( Begin slightly excessive theatrics ) " Windows 7 ( and Vista worse before that ) , Outlook 2010 , and some new breeds of Linux require crispy shiny hardware.Oh Noes !
Who will Think Of The OldWare ? ?
" ( /End slightly excessive theatrics ) So even ignoring Vista like we all did , MS is right that Win7/Vista SP3 is in fact positioned perfectly for the upgrade cycle from XP era 2001-2010.That means there will be a perfect storm of weaker hardware showing up .
Wait , what 's this ?
People LIKE weaker specs if they 're cheap ? If they can put a bit of hacker humor into the whole affair , it could go really well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, let the OLPC be a different breed.
Finally someone is doing what I carped on in a couple of Dot posts.
(Begin slightly excessive theatrics)"Windows 7 (and Vista worse before that), Outlook 2010, and some new breeds of Linux require crispy shiny hardware.Oh Noes!
Who will Think Of The OldWare??
"(/End slightly excessive theatrics)So even ignoring Vista like we all did, MS is right that Win7/Vista SP3 is in fact positioned perfectly for the upgrade cycle from XP era 2001-2010.That means there will be a perfect storm of weaker hardware showing up.
Wait, what's this?
People LIKE weaker specs if they're cheap?If they can put a bit of hacker humor into the whole affair, it could go really well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523678</id>
	<title>CherryPal Bing... hmm...</title>
	<author>uglyduckling</author>
	<datestamp>1261497540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's an interesting laptop.  Looks like a rip-off of the polycarbonate MacBook, sounds like a rip-off of the Microsoft search engine.  I predict FAIL.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's an interesting laptop .
Looks like a rip-off of the polycarbonate MacBook , sounds like a rip-off of the Microsoft search engine .
I predict FAIL .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's an interesting laptop.
Looks like a rip-off of the polycarbonate MacBook, sounds like a rip-off of the Microsoft search engine.
I predict FAIL.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524432</id>
	<title>Re:It's the anti-apple</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1261501260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> <b>They're</b> slogan should be "works with nothing." </i></p><p>Dew knot truss yore spill chucker.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're slogan should be " works with nothing .
" Dew knot truss yore spill chucker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> They're slogan should be "works with nothing.
" Dew knot truss yore spill chucker.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30541250</id>
	<title>Re:ARM/MIPS or X86?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259767860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, it's like feeding African's some Italian sausage, some Japanese sushi, and some Iranian hummus. Variety and choices bring a broader understanding of computing fundamentals, which is far better than insisting on an arbitrary monopoly such as Word on Wintel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , it 's like feeding African 's some Italian sausage , some Japanese sushi , and some Iranian hummus .
Variety and choices bring a broader understanding of computing fundamentals , which is far better than insisting on an arbitrary monopoly such as Word on Wintel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, it's like feeding African's some Italian sausage, some Japanese sushi, and some Iranian hummus.
Variety and choices bring a broader understanding of computing fundamentals, which is far better than insisting on an arbitrary monopoly such as Word on Wintel.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523982</id>
	<title>ARM/MIPS or X86?</title>
	<author>RMH101</author>
	<datestamp>1261499220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh come on.  For heaven's sake at least standardise on an architecture.  I've no problem with some hardware variance (although god help you if you want to image the things) but <b>completely different architectures?</b>  It's like feeding Africa by posting out half-eaten leftovers rather than aid parcels.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh come on .
For heaven 's sake at least standardise on an architecture .
I 've no problem with some hardware variance ( although god help you if you want to image the things ) but completely different architectures ?
It 's like feeding Africa by posting out half-eaten leftovers rather than aid parcels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh come on.
For heaven's sake at least standardise on an architecture.
I've no problem with some hardware variance (although god help you if you want to image the things) but completely different architectures?
It's like feeding Africa by posting out half-eaten leftovers rather than aid parcels.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524258</id>
	<title>Re:seems a bit pricey</title>
	<author>cerberusss</author>
	<datestamp>1261500420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Considering you can get legit hardware in a netbook now for around $200, getting what is essentially a bag o' crap for half that isn't much of deal.</p></div><p>It's half the price. I think that's a big deal, if the $100 hardware will service your needs.</p><p>Some people don't consider a $500 Apple Mac Mini a big deal. But sometimes, I buy one second hand for $250. Why? Because it's <i>half the price</i>.</p><p>You can also think of it some other way. Put the savings in your pension. You'll be glad when you're 80 and you can afford a beautiful blonde Swedish girl to wipe your ass.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering you can get legit hardware in a netbook now for around $ 200 , getting what is essentially a bag o ' crap for half that is n't much of deal.It 's half the price .
I think that 's a big deal , if the $ 100 hardware will service your needs.Some people do n't consider a $ 500 Apple Mac Mini a big deal .
But sometimes , I buy one second hand for $ 250 .
Why ? Because it 's half the price.You can also think of it some other way .
Put the savings in your pension .
You 'll be glad when you 're 80 and you can afford a beautiful blonde Swedish girl to wipe your ass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering you can get legit hardware in a netbook now for around $200, getting what is essentially a bag o' crap for half that isn't much of deal.It's half the price.
I think that's a big deal, if the $100 hardware will service your needs.Some people don't consider a $500 Apple Mac Mini a big deal.
But sometimes, I buy one second hand for $250.
Why? Because it's half the price.You can also think of it some other way.
Put the savings in your pension.
You'll be glad when you're 80 and you can afford a beautiful blonde Swedish girl to wipe your ass.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30528274</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261473420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I also eventually got an Intel Overdrive chip for that extra socket and moved from the 486 SX 20Mhz to a 486 DX 75Mhz (strange that a 55Mhz increase in clock speed made such a difference - back then the machine was several times faster - these days 55Mhz isn't even noticeable<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)).</p></div><p>Yes, that would have made a <i>huge</i> difference.  Something like going from a 1.2 GHz Core2Duo to a 3.6 GHz Core2Duo (this is a simplified example for all of you pedants out there).  You have to think of the new clock speed as relative to the old (assuming similar processor family), so going from 20 MHz to 75 would have <i>definitely</i> been over 3 times faster not to mention the addition of faster bus speed and a functional math co-processor.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I also eventually got an Intel Overdrive chip for that extra socket and moved from the 486 SX 20Mhz to a 486 DX 75Mhz ( strange that a 55Mhz increase in clock speed made such a difference - back then the machine was several times faster - these days 55Mhz is n't even noticeable : ) ) .Yes , that would have made a huge difference .
Something like going from a 1.2 GHz Core2Duo to a 3.6 GHz Core2Duo ( this is a simplified example for all of you pedants out there ) .
You have to think of the new clock speed as relative to the old ( assuming similar processor family ) , so going from 20 MHz to 75 would have definitely been over 3 times faster not to mention the addition of faster bus speed and a functional math co-processor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also eventually got an Intel Overdrive chip for that extra socket and moved from the 486 SX 20Mhz to a 486 DX 75Mhz (strange that a 55Mhz increase in clock speed made such a difference - back then the machine was several times faster - these days 55Mhz isn't even noticeable :)).Yes, that would have made a huge difference.
Something like going from a 1.2 GHz Core2Duo to a 3.6 GHz Core2Duo (this is a simplified example for all of you pedants out there).
You have to think of the new clock speed as relative to the old (assuming similar processor family), so going from 20 MHz to 75 would have definitely been over 3 times faster not to mention the addition of faster bus speed and a functional math co-processor.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30534622</id>
	<title>Re:This is democratisation of hardware</title>
	<author>soupforare</author>
	<datestamp>1259765520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OLPC owner here-<br>It's only "more" is on the hardware side.  Its software, even now, is a complete mess of unimplemented or half-implemented features.  I actually really love the machine and it's too bad.  Especially now with the XO-2 announced and the XO-1.5 coming soon, I can't see anyone putting much more work into the software.  Realistically, 1.5 and 2 are both going to be XP machines...<br>One of the big boys *needs* to license the LCD tech, it has to be seen to be believed.  If there were another laptop equipped with a like panel, I'd be all over it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OLPC owner here-It 's only " more " is on the hardware side .
Its software , even now , is a complete mess of unimplemented or half-implemented features .
I actually really love the machine and it 's too bad .
Especially now with the XO-2 announced and the XO-1.5 coming soon , I ca n't see anyone putting much more work into the software .
Realistically , 1.5 and 2 are both going to be XP machines...One of the big boys * needs * to license the LCD tech , it has to be seen to be believed .
If there were another laptop equipped with a like panel , I 'd be all over it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OLPC owner here-It's only "more" is on the hardware side.
Its software, even now, is a complete mess of unimplemented or half-implemented features.
I actually really love the machine and it's too bad.
Especially now with the XO-2 announced and the XO-1.5 coming soon, I can't see anyone putting much more work into the software.
Realistically, 1.5 and 2 are both going to be XP machines...One of the big boys *needs* to license the LCD tech, it has to be seen to be believed.
If there were another laptop equipped with a like panel, I'd be all over it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523986</id>
	<title>Re:seems a bit pricey</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261499280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Especially in Africa, where everything breaks...</p></div><p>Are you saying that out of any extensive experience or did you just pull that little factoid out of your bum?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Especially in Africa , where everything breaks...Are you saying that out of any extensive experience or did you just pull that little factoid out of your bum ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Especially in Africa, where everything breaks...Are you saying that out of any extensive experience or did you just pull that little factoid out of your bum?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30534720</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1259766480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Dell has NOTHING on Packard Bell. I'm not sure what happened to them, but their equipment was shit and totally random.</p> </div><p>Packard Bell had their own boards made in many cases, they discovered the idea of commodity hardware too late and died. I have a Gateway GT5475 here next to me with an ECS motherboard, it's even silkscreened as such, with no Gateway markings on the board at all. If P-B had done that, they might still be with us. Of course, the number on the front of a P-B was only a small part of the story. You have to look at the serial number sticker which also has the full model number.</p><p>Dell was the first big box computer manufacturer to be built completely out of COTS parts. As such they had to do zero hardware R&amp;D. All they had to do to get a machine out of the door was to get the drivers ironed out. And I imagine that today they have deals where if they find out that a problem is based on the mainboard, that they get the redesign for free. The motherboard maker will want to do an up-rev anyway (There's already a version 1.1 of my Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P and it's a fairly new board) so it works out fine for everyone. P-B wanted to make all the profit, and ended up making an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packard\_Bell" title="wikipedia.org">epitaph</a> [wikipedia.org]. (It's now just a marque of Acer.)</p></div>
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<tokenext>Dell has NOTHING on Packard Bell .
I 'm not sure what happened to them , but their equipment was shit and totally random .
Packard Bell had their own boards made in many cases , they discovered the idea of commodity hardware too late and died .
I have a Gateway GT5475 here next to me with an ECS motherboard , it 's even silkscreened as such , with no Gateway markings on the board at all .
If P-B had done that , they might still be with us .
Of course , the number on the front of a P-B was only a small part of the story .
You have to look at the serial number sticker which also has the full model number.Dell was the first big box computer manufacturer to be built completely out of COTS parts .
As such they had to do zero hardware R&amp;D .
All they had to do to get a machine out of the door was to get the drivers ironed out .
And I imagine that today they have deals where if they find out that a problem is based on the mainboard , that they get the redesign for free .
The motherboard maker will want to do an up-rev anyway ( There 's already a version 1.1 of my Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P and it 's a fairly new board ) so it works out fine for everyone .
P-B wanted to make all the profit , and ended up making an epitaph [ wikipedia.org ] .
( It 's now just a marque of Acer .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dell has NOTHING on Packard Bell.
I'm not sure what happened to them, but their equipment was shit and totally random.
Packard Bell had their own boards made in many cases, they discovered the idea of commodity hardware too late and died.
I have a Gateway GT5475 here next to me with an ECS motherboard, it's even silkscreened as such, with no Gateway markings on the board at all.
If P-B had done that, they might still be with us.
Of course, the number on the front of a P-B was only a small part of the story.
You have to look at the serial number sticker which also has the full model number.Dell was the first big box computer manufacturer to be built completely out of COTS parts.
As such they had to do zero hardware R&amp;D.
All they had to do to get a machine out of the door was to get the drivers ironed out.
And I imagine that today they have deals where if they find out that a problem is based on the mainboard, that they get the redesign for free.
The motherboard maker will want to do an up-rev anyway (There's already a version 1.1 of my Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P and it's a fairly new board) so it works out fine for everyone.
P-B wanted to make all the profit, and ended up making an epitaph [wikipedia.org].
(It's now just a marque of Acer.
)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30529626</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>frosty\_tsm</author>
	<datestamp>1261479060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Dell has NOTHING on Packard Bell.  I'm not sure what happened to them,</p></div><p>Packard Bell was bought by Compaq (which became crap).  Compaq was bought by HP (which became crap).  It's like a virus.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dell has NOTHING on Packard Bell .
I 'm not sure what happened to them,Packard Bell was bought by Compaq ( which became crap ) .
Compaq was bought by HP ( which became crap ) .
It 's like a virus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dell has NOTHING on Packard Bell.
I'm not sure what happened to them,Packard Bell was bought by Compaq (which became crap).
Compaq was bought by HP (which became crap).
It's like a virus.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523808</id>
	<title>Re:It's the anti-apple</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261498260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you ever heard of linux?</p><p>Debian (the basis of Ubuntu and by the sounds of TFA the basis of the cherrypal distro) has most applications compiled across very many architectures. It's already in place, drivers for a lot of stuff will be in the kernel. No problem!</p><p>(well, not quite, but it does help).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you ever heard of linux ? Debian ( the basis of Ubuntu and by the sounds of TFA the basis of the cherrypal distro ) has most applications compiled across very many architectures .
It 's already in place , drivers for a lot of stuff will be in the kernel .
No problem !
( well , not quite , but it does help ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you ever heard of linux?Debian (the basis of Ubuntu and by the sounds of TFA the basis of the cherrypal distro) has most applications compiled across very many architectures.
It's already in place, drivers for a lot of stuff will be in the kernel.
No problem!
(well, not quite, but it does help).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524398</id>
	<title>Re:ARM/MIPS or X86?</title>
	<author>glop</author>
	<datestamp>1261501200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's a bit extreme I agree, but at the same time, it's pretty manageable with Debian:<br>
&nbsp; - install software the same way : check (apt-get install)<br>
&nbsp; - browse web : check (firefox, html and javascript and no freaking ActiveX to require a specific arch)<br>
&nbsp; - write you own architecture independent programs : check (shell scripts, python, perl, javascript)<br>
&nbsp; - word processing/spreadsheet: check (gnumeric and abiword for instance)</p><p>I have done real work on much slower hardware and I don't think the architecture really matters that much. It could be an issue for large installs (say a school district) but for individuals with little money and a lot of time it doesn't seem like an issue.</p><p>Also, please note that the DIY potential is pretty good (USB master, CPU, screen, small size etc.) and even American DIYers might welcome this. It's the price of 2 Arduinos and much cheaper than a buglabs main unit.</p><p>Finally, the site is slashdotted, so it really looks like a great marketting idea<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a bit extreme I agree , but at the same time , it 's pretty manageable with Debian :   - install software the same way : check ( apt-get install )   - browse web : check ( firefox , html and javascript and no freaking ActiveX to require a specific arch )   - write you own architecture independent programs : check ( shell scripts , python , perl , javascript )   - word processing/spreadsheet : check ( gnumeric and abiword for instance ) I have done real work on much slower hardware and I do n't think the architecture really matters that much .
It could be an issue for large installs ( say a school district ) but for individuals with little money and a lot of time it does n't seem like an issue.Also , please note that the DIY potential is pretty good ( USB master , CPU , screen , small size etc .
) and even American DIYers might welcome this .
It 's the price of 2 Arduinos and much cheaper than a buglabs main unit.Finally , the site is slashdotted , so it really looks like a great marketting idea ; - )  </tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a bit extreme I agree, but at the same time, it's pretty manageable with Debian:
  - install software the same way : check (apt-get install)
  - browse web : check (firefox, html and javascript and no freaking ActiveX to require a specific arch)
  - write you own architecture independent programs : check (shell scripts, python, perl, javascript)
  - word processing/spreadsheet: check (gnumeric and abiword for instance)I have done real work on much slower hardware and I don't think the architecture really matters that much.
It could be an issue for large installs (say a school district) but for individuals with little money and a lot of time it doesn't seem like an issue.Also, please note that the DIY potential is pretty good (USB master, CPU, screen, small size etc.
) and even American DIYers might welcome this.
It's the price of 2 Arduinos and much cheaper than a buglabs main unit.Finally, the site is slashdotted, so it really looks like a great marketting idea ;-)
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523588</id>
	<title>Interesting</title>
	<author>stoolpigeon</author>
	<datestamp>1261497000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I first heard about these via the <a href="http://whiteafrican.com/2009/12/16/the-small-slow-and-sufficient-99-africa-laptop/" title="whiteafrican.com">white African</a> [whiteafrican.com] (a tech guy in Nairobi).  There is some interesting discussion there that revolved around capabilities, how realistic the $99 price point is outside the developed world and durability.<br>
&nbsp; <br>Getting these in the U.S. at $99 is pretty easy, but could one get them into an African country at that price?  Max Seybold says yes, but I'd like to see it first.  Then the question is how well it will sell, even at that price point when up against used hardware with better specs.<br>
&nbsp; <br>I'm all for more choices at the lower end of things.  And I think this product is great even if for nothing more than the conversations it can generate that will bring more awareness about the needs in developing countries.  But ultimately I wonder if this kind of thing is just a stop gap anyway until cheap smart phones and reliable data access are global.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I first heard about these via the white African [ whiteafrican.com ] ( a tech guy in Nairobi ) .
There is some interesting discussion there that revolved around capabilities , how realistic the $ 99 price point is outside the developed world and durability .
  Getting these in the U.S. at $ 99 is pretty easy , but could one get them into an African country at that price ?
Max Seybold says yes , but I 'd like to see it first .
Then the question is how well it will sell , even at that price point when up against used hardware with better specs .
  I 'm all for more choices at the lower end of things .
And I think this product is great even if for nothing more than the conversations it can generate that will bring more awareness about the needs in developing countries .
But ultimately I wonder if this kind of thing is just a stop gap anyway until cheap smart phones and reliable data access are global .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I first heard about these via the white African [whiteafrican.com] (a tech guy in Nairobi).
There is some interesting discussion there that revolved around capabilities, how realistic the $99 price point is outside the developed world and durability.
  Getting these in the U.S. at $99 is pretty easy, but could one get them into an African country at that price?
Max Seybold says yes, but I'd like to see it first.
Then the question is how well it will sell, even at that price point when up against used hardware with better specs.
  I'm all for more choices at the lower end of things.
And I think this product is great even if for nothing more than the conversations it can generate that will bring more awareness about the needs in developing countries.
But ultimately I wonder if this kind of thing is just a stop gap anyway until cheap smart phones and reliable data access are global.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30533516</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>rrohbeck</author>
	<datestamp>1259746200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> If you wanted to upgrade the processor, they provided a SECOND CPU socket that shipped empty. You want to upgrade you had to plug a new CPU into the replacement socket and then use a jumper to tell the board to use that socket instead of the built in CPU.</p></div><p>That was standard Intel tech at the time. Just like you expanded a 386 with a 387, you expanded a 486SX (which didn't have a FPU) with a 487SX - except that the 487SX was a full 486 with one or two pins changed and the 486SX was disabled.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you wanted to upgrade the processor , they provided a SECOND CPU socket that shipped empty .
You want to upgrade you had to plug a new CPU into the replacement socket and then use a jumper to tell the board to use that socket instead of the built in CPU.That was standard Intel tech at the time .
Just like you expanded a 386 with a 387 , you expanded a 486SX ( which did n't have a FPU ) with a 487SX - except that the 487SX was a full 486 with one or two pins changed and the 486SX was disabled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> If you wanted to upgrade the processor, they provided a SECOND CPU socket that shipped empty.
You want to upgrade you had to plug a new CPU into the replacement socket and then use a jumper to tell the board to use that socket instead of the built in CPU.That was standard Intel tech at the time.
Just like you expanded a 386 with a 387, you expanded a 486SX (which didn't have a FPU) with a 487SX - except that the 487SX was a full 486 with one or two pins changed and the 486SX was disabled.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30525596</id>
	<title>Re:This is democratisation of hardware</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1261506840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>OLPC is that and more: sunlight readable screen, robust, wireless mesh networking, even more energy efficient than this "Africa" device.</p></div><p>It's all good, but even taken together, it doesn't beat the $100 price tag. <em>That</em> is important; everything else is just icing on the cake.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>OLPC is that and more : sunlight readable screen , robust , wireless mesh networking , even more energy efficient than this " Africa " device.It 's all good , but even taken together , it does n't beat the $ 100 price tag .
That is important ; everything else is just icing on the cake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OLPC is that and more: sunlight readable screen, robust, wireless mesh networking, even more energy efficient than this "Africa" device.It's all good, but even taken together, it doesn't beat the $100 price tag.
That is important; everything else is just icing on the cake.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30526240</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>10101001 10101001</author>
	<datestamp>1261509660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The CPU was soldered straight into the board much like the memory was. If you wanted to upgrade the processor, they provided a SECOND CPU socket that shipped empty. You want to upgrade you had to plug a new CPU into the replacement socket and then use a jumper to tell the board to use that socket instead of the built in CPU.</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, the 486SX lacked an FPU (a functioning one, at least).  The second socket on most 486SX boards was for the "i487", which was really a 486DX with an extra pin.  Later, "Overdrive" processors could be used in the same slot because, as you note, it was just really just a special CPU socket.  Since you had to use a jumper to use the second socket, I wonder if an i487 would have actually worked in the socket without the jumper and the jumper thing was just a hack by Packard Bell so you could upgrade using probably cheaper 486DX processors.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The CPU was soldered straight into the board much like the memory was .
If you wanted to upgrade the processor , they provided a SECOND CPU socket that shipped empty .
You want to upgrade you had to plug a new CPU into the replacement socket and then use a jumper to tell the board to use that socket instead of the built in CPU.Well , the 486SX lacked an FPU ( a functioning one , at least ) .
The second socket on most 486SX boards was for the " i487 " , which was really a 486DX with an extra pin .
Later , " Overdrive " processors could be used in the same slot because , as you note , it was just really just a special CPU socket .
Since you had to use a jumper to use the second socket , I wonder if an i487 would have actually worked in the socket without the jumper and the jumper thing was just a hack by Packard Bell so you could upgrade using probably cheaper 486DX processors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The CPU was soldered straight into the board much like the memory was.
If you wanted to upgrade the processor, they provided a SECOND CPU socket that shipped empty.
You want to upgrade you had to plug a new CPU into the replacement socket and then use a jumper to tell the board to use that socket instead of the built in CPU.Well, the 486SX lacked an FPU (a functioning one, at least).
The second socket on most 486SX boards was for the "i487", which was really a 486DX with an extra pin.
Later, "Overdrive" processors could be used in the same slot because, as you note, it was just really just a special CPU socket.
Since you had to use a jumper to use the second socket, I wonder if an i487 would have actually worked in the socket without the jumper and the jumper thing was just a hack by Packard Bell so you could upgrade using probably cheaper 486DX processors.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524364</id>
	<title>Come on, trolls.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261501020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't it obvious?  Hacked together from whatever parts are available.  It's called the Africa.  I am hugely disappointed that I am the first to christen it the Nigger-Rigged Netbook.  The only thing that could make this any better is if they came pre-installed with Niggerbuntu.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't it obvious ?
Hacked together from whatever parts are available .
It 's called the Africa .
I am hugely disappointed that I am the first to christen it the Nigger-Rigged Netbook .
The only thing that could make this any better is if they came pre-installed with Niggerbuntu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't it obvious?
Hacked together from whatever parts are available.
It's called the Africa.
I am hugely disappointed that I am the first to christen it the Nigger-Rigged Netbook.
The only thing that could make this any better is if they came pre-installed with Niggerbuntu.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524048</id>
	<title>Re:It's the anti-apple</title>
	<author>Steve Max</author>
	<datestamp>1261499580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You assume they need to offer binary compatibility for different architectures; they don't. You install everything from the repositories, which will have ARM, x86/x86\_64, MIPS etc versions for everything; and those versions will have been tested by the large Debian community for each architecture. All that is needed is source-code compatibility, which is usually ensured in FLOSS.</p><p>Now, WinCE is another beast. I have no idea about their plans for that; but in Linux, there is no problem with this strategy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You assume they need to offer binary compatibility for different architectures ; they do n't .
You install everything from the repositories , which will have ARM , x86/x86 \ _64 , MIPS etc versions for everything ; and those versions will have been tested by the large Debian community for each architecture .
All that is needed is source-code compatibility , which is usually ensured in FLOSS.Now , WinCE is another beast .
I have no idea about their plans for that ; but in Linux , there is no problem with this strategy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You assume they need to offer binary compatibility for different architectures; they don't.
You install everything from the repositories, which will have ARM, x86/x86\_64, MIPS etc versions for everything; and those versions will have been tested by the large Debian community for each architecture.
All that is needed is source-code compatibility, which is usually ensured in FLOSS.Now, WinCE is another beast.
I have no idea about their plans for that; but in Linux, there is no problem with this strategy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523854</id>
	<title>Specs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261498500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>they are:<br>a 400 MHz processor<br>256 MB RAM,<br>2 GB flash memory,<br>Ethernet,<br>Wi-Fi,<br>2xUSB<br>a 7 screen</p><p>(from <a href="http://whiteafrican.com/2009/12/16/the-small-slow-and-sufficient-99-africa-laptop/" title="whiteafrican.com" rel="nofollow">here</a> [whiteafrican.com]) as the links are down</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>they are : a 400 MHz processor256 MB RAM,2 GB flash memory,Ethernet,Wi-Fi,2xUSBa 7 screen ( from here [ whiteafrican.com ] ) as the links are down</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they are:a 400 MHz processor256 MB RAM,2 GB flash memory,Ethernet,Wi-Fi,2xUSBa 7 screen(from here [whiteafrican.com]) as the links are down</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523652</id>
	<title>cool</title>
	<author>Sir\_Real</author>
	<datestamp>1261497420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's not bad for an open device that will run hostap.  At that price, these are essentially disposable.  1800mah is fully powerable by a 28 watt solar charger.  You could build motion capture field cameras or something out of them.  I love it when tech gets cheap.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's not bad for an open device that will run hostap .
At that price , these are essentially disposable .
1800mah is fully powerable by a 28 watt solar charger .
You could build motion capture field cameras or something out of them .
I love it when tech gets cheap .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's not bad for an open device that will run hostap.
At that price, these are essentially disposable.
1800mah is fully powerable by a 28 watt solar charger.
You could build motion capture field cameras or something out of them.
I love it when tech gets cheap.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524070</id>
	<title>Re:It's the anti-apple</title>
	<author>PenisLands</author>
	<datestamp>1261499760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're a time cocker. I bet you own an iMac or something. Listen, you can enjoy your shiny white commercial stuff which 'just works'. But don't try to discourage others.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're a time cocker .
I bet you own an iMac or something .
Listen , you can enjoy your shiny white commercial stuff which 'just works' .
But do n't try to discourage others .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're a time cocker.
I bet you own an iMac or something.
Listen, you can enjoy your shiny white commercial stuff which 'just works'.
But don't try to discourage others.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30529336</id>
	<title>Re:Niche Market</title>
	<author>Aggrajag</author>
	<datestamp>1261477680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, at least there's one Slashdotter besides me that has kids<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)

I am contemplating about buying one, but would like to know the exact CPU and video decoding capabilities.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , at least there 's one Slashdotter besides me that has kids : ) I am contemplating about buying one , but would like to know the exact CPU and video decoding capabilities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, at least there's one Slashdotter besides me that has kids :)

I am contemplating about buying one, but would like to know the exact CPU and video decoding capabilities.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523934</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523868</id>
	<title>Slashdotted</title>
	<author>cerberusss</author>
	<datestamp>1261498560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>may be built around an ARM, MIPS, or X86-based CPU depending on what parts CherryPal has on hand at the time</p></div><p>I believe this also goes for their webserver, which is now in its last death throes.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>may be built around an ARM , MIPS , or X86-based CPU depending on what parts CherryPal has on hand at the timeI believe this also goes for their webserver , which is now in its last death throes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>may be built around an ARM, MIPS, or X86-based CPU depending on what parts CherryPal has on hand at the timeI believe this also goes for their webserver, which is now in its last death throes.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523666</id>
	<title>It's the anti-apple</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261497480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're slogan should be "works with nothing."  How can you develop much of anything with such a shotgun approach to hardware. It's more like a phone family than a computer. I'm sure it can be done, but nothing will run quickly (since everything has to be interpreted for the processor installed) unless it's compiled across all chipsets.  Talk about a driver support nightmare.</p><p>This would be good for the hacker kids of the 1970s/1980s - lots of time to play around, no mature apps (that cost less than $1000), and no real expectation that you could get real work done on a small computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're slogan should be " works with nothing .
" How can you develop much of anything with such a shotgun approach to hardware .
It 's more like a phone family than a computer .
I 'm sure it can be done , but nothing will run quickly ( since everything has to be interpreted for the processor installed ) unless it 's compiled across all chipsets .
Talk about a driver support nightmare.This would be good for the hacker kids of the 1970s/1980s - lots of time to play around , no mature apps ( that cost less than $ 1000 ) , and no real expectation that you could get real work done on a small computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're slogan should be "works with nothing.
"  How can you develop much of anything with such a shotgun approach to hardware.
It's more like a phone family than a computer.
I'm sure it can be done, but nothing will run quickly (since everything has to be interpreted for the processor installed) unless it's compiled across all chipsets.
Talk about a driver support nightmare.This would be good for the hacker kids of the 1970s/1980s - lots of time to play around, no mature apps (that cost less than $1000), and no real expectation that you could get real work done on a small computer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524534</id>
	<title>How do i get one</title>
	<author>robinstar1574</author>
	<datestamp>1261501740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't find out how to get one of these, but I have made a habit of buying one of each major computer posted on slashdot. How do i get one of these?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't find out how to get one of these , but I have made a habit of buying one of each major computer posted on slashdot .
How do i get one of these ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't find out how to get one of these, but I have made a habit of buying one of each major computer posted on slashdot.
How do i get one of these?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30531394</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1261489020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>To upgrade the thing you had to fill all 4 slots</i><br>Were they 30 pin simm slots? on 486 boards and 386DX boards it was normal to have to fill such slots in groups of four since the bus was four times as wide as the modules.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To upgrade the thing you had to fill all 4 slotsWere they 30 pin simm slots ?
on 486 boards and 386DX boards it was normal to have to fill such slots in groups of four since the bus was four times as wide as the modules .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To upgrade the thing you had to fill all 4 slotsWere they 30 pin simm slots?
on 486 boards and 386DX boards it was normal to have to fill such slots in groups of four since the bus was four times as wide as the modules.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524252</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30527138</id>
	<title>Re:Specs</title>
	<author>CAIMLAS</author>
	<datestamp>1261512900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, now the question is: is it x86 or ARM? Or something else?</p><p>$100 for an ARM or PPC machine with those specs isn't bad. It's not great, but it's not bad, either.</p><p>However, those specs on an x86 machine are astoundingly poor, and not worth the money. An x86 CPU of 400MHz won't perform nearly as wellas an ARM or PPC, for starters. Also, that's the "minimum" spec. What if I want a 7" or 9" screen, but they're shipping old POS Dells from '2001 with 14" screens?</p><p>Are they buying used crap off ebay for $20 and reselling it with a battery refurbish? What's the deal?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , now the question is : is it x86 or ARM ?
Or something else ? $ 100 for an ARM or PPC machine with those specs is n't bad .
It 's not great , but it 's not bad , either.However , those specs on an x86 machine are astoundingly poor , and not worth the money .
An x86 CPU of 400MHz wo n't perform nearly as wellas an ARM or PPC , for starters .
Also , that 's the " minimum " spec .
What if I want a 7 " or 9 " screen , but they 're shipping old POS Dells from '2001 with 14 " screens ? Are they buying used crap off ebay for $ 20 and reselling it with a battery refurbish ?
What 's the deal ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, now the question is: is it x86 or ARM?
Or something else?$100 for an ARM or PPC machine with those specs isn't bad.
It's not great, but it's not bad, either.However, those specs on an x86 machine are astoundingly poor, and not worth the money.
An x86 CPU of 400MHz won't perform nearly as wellas an ARM or PPC, for starters.
Also, that's the "minimum" spec.
What if I want a 7" or 9" screen, but they're shipping old POS Dells from '2001 with 14" screens?Are they buying used crap off ebay for $20 and reselling it with a battery refurbish?
What's the deal?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523854</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524784</id>
	<title>Server slashdotted</title>
	<author>uncle-pepe</author>
	<datestamp>1261502700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It would be nice if they used a  server with more horsepower than a "CherryPal" Africa. Good luck getting any info from their website.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would be nice if they used a server with more horsepower than a " CherryPal " Africa .
Good luck getting any info from their website .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would be nice if they used a  server with more horsepower than a "CherryPal" Africa.
Good luck getting any info from their website.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30529598</id>
	<title>Re:Niche Market</title>
	<author>negRo\_slim</author>
	<datestamp>1261478940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you:<br> <br>

1. Never bought into the netbook hoopla<br>
2. Have 99 bucks in disposable income<br>
3. Are willing to give it a try<br>
<br> <br>
Then it's not a bad deal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you : 1 .
Never bought into the netbook hoopla 2 .
Have 99 bucks in disposable income 3 .
Are willing to give it a try Then it 's not a bad deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you: 

1.
Never bought into the netbook hoopla
2.
Have 99 bucks in disposable income
3.
Are willing to give it a try
 
Then it's not a bad deal.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523934</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30538182</id>
	<title>Re:seems a bit pricey</title>
	<author>MikeBabcock</author>
	<datestamp>1259787180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems half price to me.  Most people will downgrade slightly to buy two for the price of one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems half price to me .
Most people will downgrade slightly to buy two for the price of one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems half price to me.
Most people will downgrade slightly to buy two for the price of one.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523592</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523820</id>
	<title>Re:It's the anti-apple</title>
	<author>sandmaninator</author>
	<datestamp>1261498320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nice sig. One who complains about stupid people ought to know how to spell...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice sig .
One who complains about stupid people ought to know how to spell.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nice sig.
One who complains about stupid people ought to know how to spell...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523666</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30526324</id>
	<title>Re:Can that really be cost effective?</title>
	<author>Shotgun</author>
	<datestamp>1261510080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> The thing I have trouble with, is the idea that you can get enough of a discount to offset the cost of supporting random hardware configurations and software for several different CPU architectures.</p><p>Is this really cost effective?</p></div><p>Support?  What is this support you speak of in relation to hardware?  The closest I've seen to hardware support in the last 10 years is "Ship the unit back to us, and we'll ship you a new one."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The thing I have trouble with , is the idea that you can get enough of a discount to offset the cost of supporting random hardware configurations and software for several different CPU architectures.Is this really cost effective ? Support ?
What is this support you speak of in relation to hardware ?
The closest I 've seen to hardware support in the last 10 years is " Ship the unit back to us , and we 'll ship you a new one .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The thing I have trouble with, is the idea that you can get enough of a discount to offset the cost of supporting random hardware configurations and software for several different CPU architectures.Is this really cost effective?Support?
What is this support you speak of in relation to hardware?
The closest I've seen to hardware support in the last 10 years is "Ship the unit back to us, and we'll ship you a new one.
"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524994</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30545678</id>
	<title>Re:My momma always said,</title>
	<author>Almahtar</author>
	<datestamp>1261681860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh look. A chocolate.  And what's this? A chocolate.<br> <br>Wait these are all chocolates. I predict chocolate.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh look .
A chocolate .
And what 's this ?
A chocolate .
Wait these are all chocolates .
I predict chocolate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh look.
A chocolate.
And what's this?
A chocolate.
Wait these are all chocolates.
I predict chocolate.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523726</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30533980</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>ricegf</author>
	<datestamp>1259755980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
"Since CP has their own Debian distro, people won't have to wonder if their are Linux drivers for the hardware found in the system."
</p><p>
What a bizarre thing to say. Do you really think that if you buy an Ubuntu netbook from Dell, System76, or Zareason, that they won't include drivers for the hardware? Seriously??
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Since CP has their own Debian distro , people wo n't have to wonder if their are Linux drivers for the hardware found in the system .
" What a bizarre thing to say .
Do you really think that if you buy an Ubuntu netbook from Dell , System76 , or Zareason , that they wo n't include drivers for the hardware ?
Seriously ? ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
"Since CP has their own Debian distro, people won't have to wonder if their are Linux drivers for the hardware found in the system.
"

What a bizarre thing to say.
Do you really think that if you buy an Ubuntu netbook from Dell, System76, or Zareason, that they won't include drivers for the hardware?
Seriously??
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523978</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30542614</id>
	<title>Does somebody, except Cherrypal employees,</title>
	<author>blue-slonopotam</author>
	<datestamp>1261648560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>actually have working Cherrypal Africa?</htmltext>
<tokenext>actually have working Cherrypal Africa ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>actually have working Cherrypal Africa?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30525936</id>
	<title>Re:Come on, trolls.</title>
	<author>Gothmolly</author>
	<datestamp>1261508340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>+1 for digging up an old euphemism.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>+ 1 for digging up an old euphemism .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>+1 for digging up an old euphemism.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524364</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524704</id>
	<title>Re:This is democratisation of hardware</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261502400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WTF is giving these people shitty little computers going to accomplish? Why not invest the money in <a href="http://update.unu.edu/archive/issue40\_17.htm" title="unu.edu" rel="nofollow">reversing desertification?</a> [unu.edu]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WTF is giving these people shitty little computers going to accomplish ?
Why not invest the money in reversing desertification ?
[ unu.edu ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WTF is giving these people shitty little computers going to accomplish?
Why not invest the money in reversing desertification?
[unu.edu]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524228</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524402</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>rubycodez</author>
	<datestamp>1261501200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>aw yeah, baby, I had gig in place standardized on 8088 Packard Bell, 10mb disk, 512k ram with Hercules graphics cards (with CGA emulator, run full color apps, in the color amber which was standard monitor's)</p><p>graphics card *had* to be plugged into slot furthest from the processor or thing would go apeshit at random times.  bios would run software it liked. and if bios was cranky would overwrite portions of hard disk</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>aw yeah , baby , I had gig in place standardized on 8088 Packard Bell , 10mb disk , 512k ram with Hercules graphics cards ( with CGA emulator , run full color apps , in the color amber which was standard monitor 's ) graphics card * had * to be plugged into slot furthest from the processor or thing would go apeshit at random times .
bios would run software it liked .
and if bios was cranky would overwrite portions of hard disk</tokentext>
<sentencetext>aw yeah, baby, I had gig in place standardized on 8088 Packard Bell, 10mb disk, 512k ram with Hercules graphics cards (with CGA emulator, run full color apps, in the color amber which was standard monitor's)graphics card *had* to be plugged into slot furthest from the processor or thing would go apeshit at random times.
bios would run software it liked.
and if bios was cranky would overwrite portions of hard disk</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523978</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523936</id>
	<title>Re:It's the anti-apple</title>
	<author>MonsterTrimble</author>
	<datestamp>1261498920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How can you develop much of anything with such a shotgun approach to hardware...This would be good for the hacker kids of the 1970s/1980s - lots of time to play around, no mature apps (that cost less than $1000), and no real expectation that you could get real work done on a small computer.</p></div><p>How do we develop programs for anything? We have OSes that run on LOTS of different sets of hardware, and there are lots of programs that run across lots of different OSes. We talk about these daily on Slashdot: Firefox, Thunderbird, Open Office, Pidgin... the list goes on and on. And there is no way you can call any of those apps NOT mature.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How can you develop much of anything with such a shotgun approach to hardware...This would be good for the hacker kids of the 1970s/1980s - lots of time to play around , no mature apps ( that cost less than $ 1000 ) , and no real expectation that you could get real work done on a small computer.How do we develop programs for anything ?
We have OSes that run on LOTS of different sets of hardware , and there are lots of programs that run across lots of different OSes .
We talk about these daily on Slashdot : Firefox , Thunderbird , Open Office , Pidgin... the list goes on and on .
And there is no way you can call any of those apps NOT mature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How can you develop much of anything with such a shotgun approach to hardware...This would be good for the hacker kids of the 1970s/1980s - lots of time to play around, no mature apps (that cost less than $1000), and no real expectation that you could get real work done on a small computer.How do we develop programs for anything?
We have OSes that run on LOTS of different sets of hardware, and there are lots of programs that run across lots of different OSes.
We talk about these daily on Slashdot: Firefox, Thunderbird, Open Office, Pidgin... the list goes on and on.
And there is no way you can call any of those apps NOT mature.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523666</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30526274</id>
	<title>Sorry but</title>
	<author>Mattskimo</author>
	<datestamp>1261509840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hope they don't include a brand sticker. Most people I know wouldn't take kindly to my having CP on my computer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope they do n't include a brand sticker .
Most people I know would n't take kindly to my having CP on my computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope they don't include a brand sticker.
Most people I know wouldn't take kindly to my having CP on my computer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30526828</id>
	<title>Re:ARM/MIPS or X86?</title>
	<author>uglyduckling</author>
	<datestamp>1261511760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They're just a clearing house for unwanted older laptop stock.  They even say in on their page: "...we buy access inventory, overcapacity, out-of-fashion shells, shells with minor cosmetic flaws, discounted limited batches, and other high quality though discounted components and systems...".  It's a nice product concept, but you could do the same with a few days' careful browsing on eBay.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're just a clearing house for unwanted older laptop stock .
They even say in on their page : " ...we buy access inventory , overcapacity , out-of-fashion shells , shells with minor cosmetic flaws , discounted limited batches , and other high quality though discounted components and systems... " .
It 's a nice product concept , but you could do the same with a few days ' careful browsing on eBay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're just a clearing house for unwanted older laptop stock.
They even say in on their page: "...we buy access inventory, overcapacity, out-of-fashion shells, shells with minor cosmetic flaws, discounted limited batches, and other high quality though discounted components and systems...".
It's a nice product concept, but you could do the same with a few days' careful browsing on eBay.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523982</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524228</id>
	<title>This is democratisation of hardware</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261500360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's what the OLPC should have been.<br>Commodity hardware, whatever's cheapest.<br>And a Linux-based OS to boot (no pun intended).<br>For f***s sake - how easy they do it - and OLPC had to make things so freaking difficult.<br>Obama - please give your spare bank-bailout cash to these guys and get less developed nations on-line before we all go to hell...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's what the OLPC should have been.Commodity hardware , whatever 's cheapest.And a Linux-based OS to boot ( no pun intended ) .For f * * * s sake - how easy they do it - and OLPC had to make things so freaking difficult.Obama - please give your spare bank-bailout cash to these guys and get less developed nations on-line before we all go to hell.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's what the OLPC should have been.Commodity hardware, whatever's cheapest.And a Linux-based OS to boot (no pun intended).For f***s sake - how easy they do it - and OLPC had to make things so freaking difficult.Obama - please give your spare bank-bailout cash to these guys and get less developed nations on-line before we all go to hell...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524452</id>
	<title>They will get buried in returns</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261501440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It doesn't matter that everyone will get at least the minimum configuration.  What will happen is that people will find out what the other guy got (posting their configs on the net), and then anyone who didn't get as good of a configuration will return it and get another until they get one with similar spec as the best one out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't matter that everyone will get at least the minimum configuration .
What will happen is that people will find out what the other guy got ( posting their configs on the net ) , and then anyone who did n't get as good of a configuration will return it and get another until they get one with similar spec as the best one out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't matter that everyone will get at least the minimum configuration.
What will happen is that people will find out what the other guy got (posting their configs on the net), and then anyone who didn't get as good of a configuration will return it and get another until they get one with similar spec as the best one out.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30531082</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm, I wonder if I can cherry-pick parts</title>
	<author>lawpoop</author>
	<datestamp>1261486560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here's an idea: buy a bunch and re-sell specific configurations.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's an idea : buy a bunch and re-sell specific configurations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's an idea: buy a bunch and re-sell specific configurations.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523616</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30531556</id>
	<title>Re:Green Maraschino?</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1261490700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Green Maraschino" seems to be their cloud service, not the OS; the Debian-based distro, I would imagine, is a customized spin of Xubuntu (at least, that's what other sites I've seen have referred to being used on other CherryPal machines, so it would be the natural choice for the Africa.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Green Maraschino " seems to be their cloud service , not the OS ; the Debian-based distro , I would imagine , is a customized spin of Xubuntu ( at least , that 's what other sites I 've seen have referred to being used on other CherryPal machines , so it would be the natural choice for the Africa .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Green Maraschino" seems to be their cloud service, not the OS; the Debian-based distro, I would imagine, is a customized spin of Xubuntu (at least, that's what other sites I've seen have referred to being used on other CherryPal machines, so it would be the natural choice for the Africa.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30529246</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm, I wonder if I can cherry-pick parts</title>
	<author>bhtooefr</author>
	<datestamp>1261477320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At quantity 100, though, you could get better machines for less money directly from China.</p><p>Just look on alibaba for ARM or MIPS, you'll find stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At quantity 100 , though , you could get better machines for less money directly from China.Just look on alibaba for ARM or MIPS , you 'll find stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At quantity 100, though, you could get better machines for less money directly from China.Just look on alibaba for ARM or MIPS, you'll find stuff.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523778</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523640</id>
	<title>I can't wait to see this avaialble in the UK</title>
	<author>Chrisq</author>
	<datestamp>1261497360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't wait to see this avaialble in the UK just to see how much it will cost. I bet about &pound;120  about $190.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't wait to see this avaialble in the UK just to see how much it will cost .
I bet about   120 about $ 190 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't wait to see this avaialble in the UK just to see how much it will cost.
I bet about £120  about $190.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523726</id>
	<title>My momma always said,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261497720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Life was like a box of chocolates .
You never know what you 're gon na get .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Life was like a box of chocolates.
You never know what you're gonna get.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30530964</id>
	<title>Re:seems a bit pricey</title>
	<author>Carnildo</author>
	<datestamp>1261485780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Painting all of Africa with a single brush is just as foolish.  This $100 laptop might not be such a hot idea in Zimbabwe, but I expect it will do just fine in Kenya or South Africa.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Painting all of Africa with a single brush is just as foolish .
This $ 100 laptop might not be such a hot idea in Zimbabwe , but I expect it will do just fine in Kenya or South Africa .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Painting all of Africa with a single brush is just as foolish.
This $100 laptop might not be such a hot idea in Zimbabwe, but I expect it will do just fine in Kenya or South Africa.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30526996</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30535180</id>
	<title>Frankenstein</title>
	<author>Stregano</author>
	<datestamp>1259769480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hmm, I always called random builds of whatever I had lying around Frankensteins, not Africas.

I know they are sending these to Africa, which is cool, but I think it would be way cooler to send these out and call them Frankensteins</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm , I always called random builds of whatever I had lying around Frankensteins , not Africas .
I know they are sending these to Africa , which is cool , but I think it would be way cooler to send these out and call them Frankensteins</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm, I always called random builds of whatever I had lying around Frankensteins, not Africas.
I know they are sending these to Africa, which is cool, but I think it would be way cooler to send these out and call them Frankensteins</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524034</id>
	<title>Re:seems a bit pricey</title>
	<author>RMH101</author>
	<datestamp>1261499520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>well, if you get consistent hardware at least you can cannibalise one machine that's died to fix a few others that have gone faulty.  If you get random crap then you can't do this.  $200 and standard hardware that you can swap out is probably better than $99 and you can't fix it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>well , if you get consistent hardware at least you can cannibalise one machine that 's died to fix a few others that have gone faulty .
If you get random crap then you ca n't do this .
$ 200 and standard hardware that you can swap out is probably better than $ 99 and you ca n't fix it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>well, if you get consistent hardware at least you can cannibalise one machine that's died to fix a few others that have gone faulty.
If you get random crap then you can't do this.
$200 and standard hardware that you can swap out is probably better than $99 and you can't fix it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30529694</id>
	<title>Re:seems a bit pricey</title>
	<author>ushering05401</author>
	<datestamp>1261479300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Are you saying that out of any extensive experience or did you just pull that little factoid out of your bum?</p></div><p>I thought National Geographic did a report on the underground electronics trade thriving in parts of Africa, but am not finding a link.  Here is something from a site I don't know much about, but it matches what I have heard elsewhere about the underground trade in product made from 100\% salvage material: <a href="http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/ghana/090427/cell-phone-waste" title="globalpost.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/ghana/090427/cell-phone-waste</a> [globalpost.com]</p><p>The first time something breaks is just the beginning of the product life-cycle.  The GP would have been better off with different phrasing, but I think this is what was being referenced.  This African underground has been reported on television and the net.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you saying that out of any extensive experience or did you just pull that little factoid out of your bum ? I thought National Geographic did a report on the underground electronics trade thriving in parts of Africa , but am not finding a link .
Here is something from a site I do n't know much about , but it matches what I have heard elsewhere about the underground trade in product made from 100 \ % salvage material : http : //www.globalpost.com/dispatch/ghana/090427/cell-phone-waste [ globalpost.com ] The first time something breaks is just the beginning of the product life-cycle .
The GP would have been better off with different phrasing , but I think this is what was being referenced .
This African underground has been reported on television and the net .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you saying that out of any extensive experience or did you just pull that little factoid out of your bum?I thought National Geographic did a report on the underground electronics trade thriving in parts of Africa, but am not finding a link.
Here is something from a site I don't know much about, but it matches what I have heard elsewhere about the underground trade in product made from 100\% salvage material: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/ghana/090427/cell-phone-waste [globalpost.com]The first time something breaks is just the beginning of the product life-cycle.
The GP would have been better off with different phrasing, but I think this is what was being referenced.
This African underground has been reported on television and the net.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30527860</id>
	<title>Re:This is democratisation of hardware</title>
	<author>cl0s</author>
	<datestamp>1261515240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All at a price that no one can beat...</p><p>... or pay, i mean.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All at a price that no one can beat...... or pay , i mean .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All at a price that no one can beat...... or pay, i mean.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30528776</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>camperdave</author>
	<datestamp>1261475580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>The memory expansion slots? It had 4 empty ones [snip] To upgrade the thing you had to fill all 4 slots - all or nothing.</i> <br> <br>
That's the way all memory was at the time:  30 pin SIMMs in banks of four.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The memory expansion slots ?
It had 4 empty ones [ snip ] To upgrade the thing you had to fill all 4 slots - all or nothing .
That 's the way all memory was at the time : 30 pin SIMMs in banks of four .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The memory expansion slots?
It had 4 empty ones [snip] To upgrade the thing you had to fill all 4 slots - all or nothing.
That's the way all memory was at the time:  30 pin SIMMs in banks of four.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30526574</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting</title>
	<author>uglyduckling</author>
	<datestamp>1261510860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not buying that this is a 'product' at all.  They don't even guarantee what CPU architecture you will get.  This isn't a frugal hardware company buying "odd lots" of components, this is a company taking $99 from people, then buying job lots of whatever cheap ready-built laptops they can get wholesale, kitting them out with an OS then shipping them.  There's no way they're tooled out to build laptops with ARM, Intel, AMD, etc., different size screens (do they redesign the case each time??).  It's a nice idea, but basically they're a computer reseller that guarantees low prices but not guaranteeing what you'll actually get.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not buying that this is a 'product ' at all .
They do n't even guarantee what CPU architecture you will get .
This is n't a frugal hardware company buying " odd lots " of components , this is a company taking $ 99 from people , then buying job lots of whatever cheap ready-built laptops they can get wholesale , kitting them out with an OS then shipping them .
There 's no way they 're tooled out to build laptops with ARM , Intel , AMD , etc. , different size screens ( do they redesign the case each time ? ? ) .
It 's a nice idea , but basically they 're a computer reseller that guarantees low prices but not guaranteeing what you 'll actually get .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not buying that this is a 'product' at all.
They don't even guarantee what CPU architecture you will get.
This isn't a frugal hardware company buying "odd lots" of components, this is a company taking $99 from people, then buying job lots of whatever cheap ready-built laptops they can get wholesale, kitting them out with an OS then shipping them.
There's no way they're tooled out to build laptops with ARM, Intel, AMD, etc., different size screens (do they redesign the case each time??).
It's a nice idea, but basically they're a computer reseller that guarantees low prices but not guaranteeing what you'll actually get.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523588</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30530314</id>
	<title>Re:In other words</title>
	<author>AmberBlackCat</author>
	<datestamp>1261482180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My aunt got a Packard Bell computer in 1994. It's still working. She still uses it for work. I think she's still buying ink cartridges for the Canon BJ-100 connected to it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My aunt got a Packard Bell computer in 1994 .
It 's still working .
She still uses it for work .
I think she 's still buying ink cartridges for the Canon BJ-100 connected to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My aunt got a Packard Bell computer in 1994.
It's still working.
She still uses it for work.
I think she's still buying ink cartridges for the Canon BJ-100 connected to it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523934</id>
	<title>Niche Market</title>
	<author>Ukab the Great</author>
	<datestamp>1261498920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you:</p><p>1. Have a 2 year-old who's obsessed with daddy's laptop who really needs his own so he'll stop bugging you<br>2. AND you don't want to have to hunt on ebay for an OLPC child-proof laptop that costs the same as it did when it was purchased two years ago<br>3. AND you don't want to pay over $100 for something that will get destroyed in the first 6 months of usage</p><p>Then it's not a bad deal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you : 1 .
Have a 2 year-old who 's obsessed with daddy 's laptop who really needs his own so he 'll stop bugging you2 .
AND you do n't want to have to hunt on ebay for an OLPC child-proof laptop that costs the same as it did when it was purchased two years ago3 .
AND you do n't want to pay over $ 100 for something that will get destroyed in the first 6 months of usageThen it 's not a bad deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you:1.
Have a 2 year-old who's obsessed with daddy's laptop who really needs his own so he'll stop bugging you2.
AND you don't want to have to hunt on ebay for an OLPC child-proof laptop that costs the same as it did when it was purchased two years ago3.
AND you don't want to pay over $100 for something that will get destroyed in the first 6 months of usageThen it's not a bad deal.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30579692</id>
	<title>Re:Niche Market</title>
	<author>FrankieBaby1986</author>
	<datestamp>1262028240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>spare the rod, spoil the brat? He's 2. Tell him No.</htmltext>
<tokenext>spare the rod , spoil the brat ?
He 's 2 .
Tell him No .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>spare the rod, spoil the brat?
He's 2.
Tell him No.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523550</id>
	<title>In other words</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261496880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>they're using the "Dell Method"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>they 're using the " Dell Method "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they're using the "Dell Method"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523814</id>
	<title>I have a feeling</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261498320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that the Nigerian scam emails are going to be increasing in volume soon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that the Nigerian scam emails are going to be increasing in volume soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that the Nigerian scam emails are going to be increasing in volume soon.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30524276</id>
	<title>Re:ARM/MIPS or X86?</title>
	<author>Robotech\_Master</author>
	<datestamp>1261500480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Personally, I think it's kind of neat that they can make cheap machines out of literally whatever they can get their hands on. It's kind of like something Cory Doctorow would write.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally , I think it 's kind of neat that they can make cheap machines out of literally whatever they can get their hands on .
It 's kind of like something Cory Doctorow would write .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally, I think it's kind of neat that they can make cheap machines out of literally whatever they can get their hands on.
It's kind of like something Cory Doctorow would write.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523982</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30525118</id>
	<title>Re:It's the anti-apple</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1261504320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Remind me how many processors, not to mention operating systems, graphics chipsets and so on has the Mac been across, again?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Remind me how many processors , not to mention operating systems , graphics chipsets and so on has the Mac been across , again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remind me how many processors, not to mention operating systems, graphics chipsets and so on has the Mac been across, again?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_1421210.30523666</parent>
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