<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_16_2145251</id>
	<title>Lack of Manpower May Kill VLC For Mac</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1260957180000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>plasmacutter writes <i>"The Video Lan dev team has recently come forward with a notice that the number of active developers for the project's MacOS X releases has dropped to zero, <a href="http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=59905#p228791">prompting a halt in the release schedule</a>. There is now a disturbing possibility that support for Mac will be dropped as of 1.1.0. As the most versatile and user-friendly solution for bridging the video compatibility gap between OS X and windows, this will be a terrible loss for the Mac community.  There is still hope, however, if the right volunteers come forward."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>plasmacutter writes " The Video Lan dev team has recently come forward with a notice that the number of active developers for the project 's MacOS X releases has dropped to zero , prompting a halt in the release schedule .
There is now a disturbing possibility that support for Mac will be dropped as of 1.1.0 .
As the most versatile and user-friendly solution for bridging the video compatibility gap between OS X and windows , this will be a terrible loss for the Mac community .
There is still hope , however , if the right volunteers come forward .
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<sentencetext>plasmacutter writes "The Video Lan dev team has recently come forward with a notice that the number of active developers for the project's MacOS X releases has dropped to zero, prompting a halt in the release schedule.
There is now a disturbing possibility that support for Mac will be dropped as of 1.1.0.
As the most versatile and user-friendly solution for bridging the video compatibility gap between OS X and windows, this will be a terrible loss for the Mac community.
There is still hope, however, if the right volunteers come forward.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464992</id>
	<title>Does VLC really have any advantages over Perian?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259665740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously, with Perian you can pretty much play any video that plays in VLC in QuickTime, which also means that you can integrate it into all the other OS X apps(such as iTunes, iDVD etc).  With VLC you are pretty much stuck using the VLC video player, which has a horrendous interface....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , with Perian you can pretty much play any video that plays in VLC in QuickTime , which also means that you can integrate it into all the other OS X apps ( such as iTunes , iDVD etc ) .
With VLC you are pretty much stuck using the VLC video player , which has a horrendous interface... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, with Perian you can pretty much play any video that plays in VLC in QuickTime, which also means that you can integrate it into all the other OS X apps(such as iTunes, iDVD etc).
With VLC you are pretty much stuck using the VLC video player, which has a horrendous interface....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30486168</id>
	<title>Re:Mplayer OSX Extended</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261146780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I get the exact opposite results on my year-and-a-half old 2.4gHz iMac 20". VLC drops far more frames.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I get the exact opposite results on my year-and-a-half old 2.4gHz iMac 20 " .
VLC drops far more frames .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get the exact opposite results on my year-and-a-half old 2.4gHz iMac 20".
VLC drops far more frames.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30495962</id>
	<title>Re:OS X needs VLC</title>
	<author>Kuruk</author>
	<datestamp>1261149900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So, basically, you're mad that it won't play your pirated movies out of the box?</p></div><p>Yes is that to much to ask for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , basically , you 're mad that it wo n't play your pirated movies out of the box ? Yes is that to much to ask for : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, basically, you're mad that it won't play your pirated movies out of the box?Yes is that to much to ask for :)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465292</id>
	<title>Re:Oh fuck no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259666640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But these wiseguys don't realise that I'd much rather deal with files that I can recognise by their filename, copy and move them with the well known 'cp' and 'mv' commands rather than having their craptastic software try to manage it all.</p></div><p>The feature you speak of can be turned off.  Your music can be in one place or as many places as you like (even on removable storage). Most people, however, like the convenience of having all their music in one place which is managed automatically.  "Most people" makes for a reasonable default.  I also find it odd you categorize apple's naming scheme as "cryptic" given the scheme is artist/album/track, the filenames of which are not renamed as you claim.  While my files are in different folders now, all of them retain the same filenames.  Also, iTunes store's music no longer has DRM.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But these wiseguys do n't realise that I 'd much rather deal with files that I can recognise by their filename , copy and move them with the well known 'cp ' and 'mv ' commands rather than having their craptastic software try to manage it all.The feature you speak of can be turned off .
Your music can be in one place or as many places as you like ( even on removable storage ) .
Most people , however , like the convenience of having all their music in one place which is managed automatically .
" Most people " makes for a reasonable default .
I also find it odd you categorize apple 's naming scheme as " cryptic " given the scheme is artist/album/track , the filenames of which are not renamed as you claim .
While my files are in different folders now , all of them retain the same filenames .
Also , iTunes store 's music no longer has DRM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But these wiseguys don't realise that I'd much rather deal with files that I can recognise by their filename, copy and move them with the well known 'cp' and 'mv' commands rather than having their craptastic software try to manage it all.The feature you speak of can be turned off.
Your music can be in one place or as many places as you like (even on removable storage).
Most people, however, like the convenience of having all their music in one place which is managed automatically.
"Most people" makes for a reasonable default.
I also find it odd you categorize apple's naming scheme as "cryptic" given the scheme is artist/album/track, the filenames of which are not renamed as you claim.
While my files are in different folders now, all of them retain the same filenames.
Also, iTunes store's music no longer has DRM.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464934</id>
	<title>Re:OS X is UNIX</title>
	<author>Penguinisto</author>
	<datestamp>1259665500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not exactly... Apple has been slowly squeezing the Carbon (std. C++ lib set) into non-existence, which means you get to do it in Cocoa (that is, Obj-C).  IIRC, there's no 64-bit Carbon love in SL, though the 32-bit Carbon libs should still be happily intact.</p><p>There's also (IIRC) Grand Central to contend with when you're dinking around with video, and I doubt that you could find an easy parallel for that when porting in from *nix.</p><p>Been way the hell too long (something like 4 years) since I've had to do any serious OSX stuff though, so take all of this with a block of salt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not exactly... Apple has been slowly squeezing the Carbon ( std .
C + + lib set ) into non-existence , which means you get to do it in Cocoa ( that is , Obj-C ) .
IIRC , there 's no 64-bit Carbon love in SL , though the 32-bit Carbon libs should still be happily intact.There 's also ( IIRC ) Grand Central to contend with when you 're dinking around with video , and I doubt that you could find an easy parallel for that when porting in from * nix.Been way the hell too long ( something like 4 years ) since I 've had to do any serious OSX stuff though , so take all of this with a block of salt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not exactly... Apple has been slowly squeezing the Carbon (std.
C++ lib set) into non-existence, which means you get to do it in Cocoa (that is, Obj-C).
IIRC, there's no 64-bit Carbon love in SL, though the 32-bit Carbon libs should still be happily intact.There's also (IIRC) Grand Central to contend with when you're dinking around with video, and I doubt that you could find an easy parallel for that when porting in from *nix.Been way the hell too long (something like 4 years) since I've had to do any serious OSX stuff though, so take all of this with a block of salt.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467286</id>
	<title>Re:A different view from a developer</title>
	<author>MidnightBrewer</author>
	<datestamp>1259675520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately, customers are not nice people. If you're doing open source for your personal satisfaction or as a way to increase your experience as a developer, then you'll most likely be happy. If you're bothered by a user base that expects things free, good, and delivered yesterday, then you should probably think about revising your business model.</p><p>There will always be something to replace VLC, or even LAME. It may not always be free, and you may not always be completely satisfied with it, but whoever develops the code, no matter how noble or altruistic their effort may be, will most likely go unappreciated by 90\% of the community.  That's the price you pay for wanting to make such software, be it LAME, Linux, or whatever, the de facto standard.  You just have to learn how to tune out the noise.</p><p>That being said, if VLC doesn't lack for users, it falls on the developers to step up or walk away. If it can't attract developers, then perhaps there simply isn't a mainstream need for VLC's specific feature set; perhaps it has outlived its usefulness, or its most useful features aren't really that useful after all.  If it falls by the wayside, another free or commercial solution will crop up to replace it, with varying degrees of quality.  Old code bases will most likely be recycled or built upon.  A few people may remember the original programmers and express their appreciation for all their hard work in the past, but more likely they'll complain that their predecessors were hacks who wouldn't know elegant code from a hole in the ground.  That's the reality of software development on any platform.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , customers are not nice people .
If you 're doing open source for your personal satisfaction or as a way to increase your experience as a developer , then you 'll most likely be happy .
If you 're bothered by a user base that expects things free , good , and delivered yesterday , then you should probably think about revising your business model.There will always be something to replace VLC , or even LAME .
It may not always be free , and you may not always be completely satisfied with it , but whoever develops the code , no matter how noble or altruistic their effort may be , will most likely go unappreciated by 90 \ % of the community .
That 's the price you pay for wanting to make such software , be it LAME , Linux , or whatever , the de facto standard .
You just have to learn how to tune out the noise.That being said , if VLC does n't lack for users , it falls on the developers to step up or walk away .
If it ca n't attract developers , then perhaps there simply is n't a mainstream need for VLC 's specific feature set ; perhaps it has outlived its usefulness , or its most useful features are n't really that useful after all .
If it falls by the wayside , another free or commercial solution will crop up to replace it , with varying degrees of quality .
Old code bases will most likely be recycled or built upon .
A few people may remember the original programmers and express their appreciation for all their hard work in the past , but more likely they 'll complain that their predecessors were hacks who would n't know elegant code from a hole in the ground .
That 's the reality of software development on any platform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, customers are not nice people.
If you're doing open source for your personal satisfaction or as a way to increase your experience as a developer, then you'll most likely be happy.
If you're bothered by a user base that expects things free, good, and delivered yesterday, then you should probably think about revising your business model.There will always be something to replace VLC, or even LAME.
It may not always be free, and you may not always be completely satisfied with it, but whoever develops the code, no matter how noble or altruistic their effort may be, will most likely go unappreciated by 90\% of the community.
That's the price you pay for wanting to make such software, be it LAME, Linux, or whatever, the de facto standard.
You just have to learn how to tune out the noise.That being said, if VLC doesn't lack for users, it falls on the developers to step up or walk away.
If it can't attract developers, then perhaps there simply isn't a mainstream need for VLC's specific feature set; perhaps it has outlived its usefulness, or its most useful features aren't really that useful after all.
If it falls by the wayside, another free or commercial solution will crop up to replace it, with varying degrees of quality.
Old code bases will most likely be recycled or built upon.
A few people may remember the original programmers and express their appreciation for all their hard work in the past, but more likely they'll complain that their predecessors were hacks who wouldn't know elegant code from a hole in the ground.
That's the reality of software development on any platform.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465860</id>
	<title>Re:Perhaps because of Perian?</title>
	<author>poopdeville</author>
	<datestamp>1259668380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because I don't like QuickTime, and I don't want to use FrontRow to view a video in the corner of my enormous peni--screen while I do some work or reading.  VLC's user interface is significantly better than QuickTime's.  And I have four gigabytes of ram.  I can afford to keep VLC running at all times.</p><p>Perian is a good product, and I was using it with FrontRow until I switched to Boxee.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because I do n't like QuickTime , and I do n't want to use FrontRow to view a video in the corner of my enormous peni--screen while I do some work or reading .
VLC 's user interface is significantly better than QuickTime 's .
And I have four gigabytes of ram .
I can afford to keep VLC running at all times.Perian is a good product , and I was using it with FrontRow until I switched to Boxee .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because I don't like QuickTime, and I don't want to use FrontRow to view a video in the corner of my enormous peni--screen while I do some work or reading.
VLC's user interface is significantly better than QuickTime's.
And I have four gigabytes of ram.
I can afford to keep VLC running at all times.Perian is a good product, and I was using it with FrontRow until I switched to Boxee.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465398</id>
	<title>VLC is an amazing, gigantic success on OS X</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1259666940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you really joking? VLC is the most successful open source project on Mac, forever. It even beats Firefox.</p><p>Here is a top sw downloads listing from absolutely general user focused download site: <a href="http://www.macupdate.com/popular/" title="macupdate.com">http://www.macupdate.com/popular/</a> [macupdate.com]</p><p>VLC has also become de-facto remote controlled Apple OS X software for iPhone/iPod users. Those are the true "walled garden" lovers/ignorers.</p><p>VLC should look at their community, IRC channel, developer public comments for why on earth their developer level dropped to zero with such amazing success. Imagine you are a multimedia developer, is there anything more visible and easy to contribute than VLC? Get a CVS pwd, start showing off with your coding capabilities... Really interesting... I suspect some bad treatment to Mac users/Developers going on. BTW, they should look at pure numbers, not some troll/idiot comments from some download sites or blogs. They are currently de facto standard multimedia player on OS X. They should figure this fact if not already.</p><p>PS: Not a big VLC fan really while it saves us all the time at TV. I personally use Coreplayer OS X which is really really unpopular and commercial application which does amazing things like playing 720P HD/H264 on G4 1.42 Ghz.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you really joking ?
VLC is the most successful open source project on Mac , forever .
It even beats Firefox.Here is a top sw downloads listing from absolutely general user focused download site : http : //www.macupdate.com/popular/ [ macupdate.com ] VLC has also become de-facto remote controlled Apple OS X software for iPhone/iPod users .
Those are the true " walled garden " lovers/ignorers.VLC should look at their community , IRC channel , developer public comments for why on earth their developer level dropped to zero with such amazing success .
Imagine you are a multimedia developer , is there anything more visible and easy to contribute than VLC ?
Get a CVS pwd , start showing off with your coding capabilities... Really interesting... I suspect some bad treatment to Mac users/Developers going on .
BTW , they should look at pure numbers , not some troll/idiot comments from some download sites or blogs .
They are currently de facto standard multimedia player on OS X. They should figure this fact if not already.PS : Not a big VLC fan really while it saves us all the time at TV .
I personally use Coreplayer OS X which is really really unpopular and commercial application which does amazing things like playing 720P HD/H264 on G4 1.42 Ghz .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you really joking?
VLC is the most successful open source project on Mac, forever.
It even beats Firefox.Here is a top sw downloads listing from absolutely general user focused download site: http://www.macupdate.com/popular/ [macupdate.com]VLC has also become de-facto remote controlled Apple OS X software for iPhone/iPod users.
Those are the true "walled garden" lovers/ignorers.VLC should look at their community, IRC channel, developer public comments for why on earth their developer level dropped to zero with such amazing success.
Imagine you are a multimedia developer, is there anything more visible and easy to contribute than VLC?
Get a CVS pwd, start showing off with your coding capabilities... Really interesting... I suspect some bad treatment to Mac users/Developers going on.
BTW, they should look at pure numbers, not some troll/idiot comments from some download sites or blogs.
They are currently de facto standard multimedia player on OS X. They should figure this fact if not already.PS: Not a big VLC fan really while it saves us all the time at TV.
I personally use Coreplayer OS X which is really really unpopular and commercial application which does amazing things like playing 720P HD/H264 on G4 1.42 Ghz.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466140</id>
	<title>Re:OS X needs VLC</title>
	<author>jo\_ham</author>
	<datestamp>1259669340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perian adds all of those codecs that you claim is "not easy" to add support for. A few clicks and it's installed. Log out and back in again at the installer's suggestion (not essential) and the job is done.</p><p>Not sure what your issue is with HD h.264 content - works just fine for me (HD files created from XDCAM HD source material, YMMV).</p><p>Divx support is easily added via perian, or using the standalone DivX installer from their main website - not sure how you didn't find that.</p><p>To force a change to stick regarding the "open with" command, that's one of those Finder quirks. I always set this by using Get Info (command+i) on a file and then changing the default there, and selecting "apply to all files of this type". If the Finder crashes for any reason before this preference is saved it may not stick - logging out and back in will save it.</p><p>Quicktime itself is far from crap. It has problems, like any media player, but it has been improved gradually over time. The newest incarnation (Quicktime X) has been totally rewritten, and I'm not 100\% sold on it yet, but fortunately QT Player 7 stays around if you prefer to use the more familiar version (or you have plugins that depend on it).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perian adds all of those codecs that you claim is " not easy " to add support for .
A few clicks and it 's installed .
Log out and back in again at the installer 's suggestion ( not essential ) and the job is done.Not sure what your issue is with HD h.264 content - works just fine for me ( HD files created from XDCAM HD source material , YMMV ) .Divx support is easily added via perian , or using the standalone DivX installer from their main website - not sure how you did n't find that.To force a change to stick regarding the " open with " command , that 's one of those Finder quirks .
I always set this by using Get Info ( command + i ) on a file and then changing the default there , and selecting " apply to all files of this type " .
If the Finder crashes for any reason before this preference is saved it may not stick - logging out and back in will save it.Quicktime itself is far from crap .
It has problems , like any media player , but it has been improved gradually over time .
The newest incarnation ( Quicktime X ) has been totally rewritten , and I 'm not 100 \ % sold on it yet , but fortunately QT Player 7 stays around if you prefer to use the more familiar version ( or you have plugins that depend on it ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perian adds all of those codecs that you claim is "not easy" to add support for.
A few clicks and it's installed.
Log out and back in again at the installer's suggestion (not essential) and the job is done.Not sure what your issue is with HD h.264 content - works just fine for me (HD files created from XDCAM HD source material, YMMV).Divx support is easily added via perian, or using the standalone DivX installer from their main website - not sure how you didn't find that.To force a change to stick regarding the "open with" command, that's one of those Finder quirks.
I always set this by using Get Info (command+i) on a file and then changing the default there, and selecting "apply to all files of this type".
If the Finder crashes for any reason before this preference is saved it may not stick - logging out and back in will save it.Quicktime itself is far from crap.
It has problems, like any media player, but it has been improved gradually over time.
The newest incarnation (Quicktime X) has been totally rewritten, and I'm not 100\% sold on it yet, but fortunately QT Player 7 stays around if you prefer to use the more familiar version (or you have plugins that depend on it).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30470686</id>
	<title>Re:user-friendly?</title>
	<author>beowulfcluster</author>
	<datestamp>1261041720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Whoever takes the job, please remove the stupid "anything I want to play gets added to a stupid playlist" thing.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>

This is the kind of feedback all open source developers love.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whoever takes the job , please remove the stupid " anything I want to play gets added to a stupid playlist " thing .
This is the kind of feedback all open source developers love .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whoever takes the job, please remove the stupid "anything I want to play gets added to a stupid playlist" thing.
This is the kind of feedback all open source developers love.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30480822</id>
	<title>Re:AbiWord faces the same issue</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261051320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Recently somebody posted a forum message noting how easy it now is to compile under OSX. I again posted this news, and asked if somebody could kindly compile it and send me a link to the resulting binary. Since then...nothing. Hence I have come to a conclusion about OSX users...well, I will let you guess what it is.</p></div></blockquote><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...That they've never heard of your little project, let alone read your postings on its forum?
</p><p>
Ever heard of promotion??</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Recently somebody posted a forum message noting how easy it now is to compile under OSX .
I again posted this news , and asked if somebody could kindly compile it and send me a link to the resulting binary .
Since then...nothing .
Hence I have come to a conclusion about OSX users...well , I will let you guess what it is .
...That they 've never heard of your little project , let alone read your postings on its forum ?
Ever heard of promotion ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Recently somebody posted a forum message noting how easy it now is to compile under OSX.
I again posted this news, and asked if somebody could kindly compile it and send me a link to the resulting binary.
Since then...nothing.
Hence I have come to a conclusion about OSX users...well, I will let you guess what it is.
...That they've never heard of your little project, let alone read your postings on its forum?
Ever heard of promotion?
?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468958</id>
	<title>Re:AbiWord faces the same issue</title>
	<author>WiiVault</author>
	<datestamp>1259687940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A crying shame too. AbiWord has always been a great resource. Thanks for all the years of hard work.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A crying shame too .
AbiWord has always been a great resource .
Thanks for all the years of hard work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A crying shame too.
AbiWord has always been a great resource.
Thanks for all the years of hard work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466768</id>
	<title>Re:Handbrake</title>
	<author>alexandre\_ganso</author>
	<datestamp>1259672460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>latest version is a fail anyway. They removed most of what worked and stucked with h264. Tell that to your chinese media player right behind your tv.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>latest version is a fail anyway .
They removed most of what worked and stucked with h264 .
Tell that to your chinese media player right behind your tv .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>latest version is a fail anyway.
They removed most of what worked and stucked with h264.
Tell that to your chinese media player right behind your tv.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467732</id>
	<title>Re:Oh fuck no</title>
	<author>jo\_ham</author>
	<datestamp>1259678280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>iTunes doesn't handle DVD playing by default in OS X - what are you talking about?</p><p>Also, who previews files in iTunes? Just pop it open in Quicktime or VLC, surely?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>iTunes does n't handle DVD playing by default in OS X - what are you talking about ? Also , who previews files in iTunes ?
Just pop it open in Quicktime or VLC , surely ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iTunes doesn't handle DVD playing by default in OS X - what are you talking about?Also, who previews files in iTunes?
Just pop it open in Quicktime or VLC, surely?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466072</id>
	<title>AbiWord faces the same issue</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259669100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are very few Open Source developers for OSX. Unfortunately we, AbiWord, have exactly the same issue. We *almost* had version 2.8 ready for OSX but we lost our lead OSX developer and there is no one to replace him. Rather than delay 2.8, we simply went ahead with 2.8 for Linux and Windows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are very few Open Source developers for OSX .
Unfortunately we , AbiWord , have exactly the same issue .
We * almost * had version 2.8 ready for OSX but we lost our lead OSX developer and there is no one to replace him .
Rather than delay 2.8 , we simply went ahead with 2.8 for Linux and Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are very few Open Source developers for OSX.
Unfortunately we, AbiWord, have exactly the same issue.
We *almost* had version 2.8 ready for OSX but we lost our lead OSX developer and there is no one to replace him.
Rather than delay 2.8, we simply went ahead with 2.8 for Linux and Windows.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465900</id>
	<title>Re:Handbrake</title>
	<author>devjj</author>
	<datestamp>1259668560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's not quite correct.  Handbrake requires VLC to rip video directly from a copyright-protected DVD.  FFmpeg is built into the Handbrake distribution itself.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's not quite correct .
Handbrake requires VLC to rip video directly from a copyright-protected DVD .
FFmpeg is built into the Handbrake distribution itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's not quite correct.
Handbrake requires VLC to rip video directly from a copyright-protected DVD.
FFmpeg is built into the Handbrake distribution itself.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464882</id>
	<title>Let it die</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259665380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just let Mac VLC go the way of the dodo, it's utter crap.</p><p>Even when the stupid thing manages to open a file, half the time it will play back the audio and spew useless error messages into a status window instead of playing video or giving you a dialog box with a clue about how to fix the problem.</p><p>It's fickle, unstable, un-Mac-like and inferior to the Windows/Linux versions. Seriously, we'd be better off if someone else picked up the ball and started over from scratch!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just let Mac VLC go the way of the dodo , it 's utter crap.Even when the stupid thing manages to open a file , half the time it will play back the audio and spew useless error messages into a status window instead of playing video or giving you a dialog box with a clue about how to fix the problem.It 's fickle , unstable , un-Mac-like and inferior to the Windows/Linux versions .
Seriously , we 'd be better off if someone else picked up the ball and started over from scratch !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just let Mac VLC go the way of the dodo, it's utter crap.Even when the stupid thing manages to open a file, half the time it will play back the audio and spew useless error messages into a status window instead of playing video or giving you a dialog box with a clue about how to fix the problem.It's fickle, unstable, un-Mac-like and inferior to the Windows/Linux versions.
Seriously, we'd be better off if someone else picked up the ball and started over from scratch!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467578</id>
	<title>Re:This would be a great loss</title>
	<author>AbRASiON</author>
	<datestamp>1259677260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I still don't see enough buffering code and SPECIFICALLY buffering controls for users in any media player.<br>I frequently play back files which just happen to be close to the bitrate of my wireless connection, why can't I have the program specifically pre-buffer 100mb of data and then play back from the 100mb? Then when the bitrate is higher, it drops to 80 or 50 but when it's lower, it re-fills.<br>This is pretty straightforward stuff and yet, do we have these kind of controls?<br>I want this on my PS3 media playbakc, my Xbox 360, Media player classic, GOM, VLC  - everything damnit! I'm willing to goddamn wait as long as the end result is a smoother experience!<br>I live in Australia, youtube and many flash videos here are frankly, bloody annoying, often we open a youtube video here, click play, let it start playing then quickly hit pause so it fills the full buffer<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:/    (if you don't quickly hit pause and it plays up to where the buffer end is, that can be a problem too)</p><p>FWIW: I'm not a coder, perhaps this is significantly more complex than it sounds to impliment but damnit it could make many things smoother and simpler.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still do n't see enough buffering code and SPECIFICALLY buffering controls for users in any media player.I frequently play back files which just happen to be close to the bitrate of my wireless connection , why ca n't I have the program specifically pre-buffer 100mb of data and then play back from the 100mb ?
Then when the bitrate is higher , it drops to 80 or 50 but when it 's lower , it re-fills.This is pretty straightforward stuff and yet , do we have these kind of controls ? I want this on my PS3 media playbakc , my Xbox 360 , Media player classic , GOM , VLC - everything damnit !
I 'm willing to goddamn wait as long as the end result is a smoother experience ! I live in Australia , youtube and many flash videos here are frankly , bloody annoying , often we open a youtube video here , click play , let it start playing then quickly hit pause so it fills the full buffer : / ( if you do n't quickly hit pause and it plays up to where the buffer end is , that can be a problem too ) FWIW : I 'm not a coder , perhaps this is significantly more complex than it sounds to impliment but damnit it could make many things smoother and simpler .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still don't see enough buffering code and SPECIFICALLY buffering controls for users in any media player.I frequently play back files which just happen to be close to the bitrate of my wireless connection, why can't I have the program specifically pre-buffer 100mb of data and then play back from the 100mb?
Then when the bitrate is higher, it drops to 80 or 50 but when it's lower, it re-fills.This is pretty straightforward stuff and yet, do we have these kind of controls?I want this on my PS3 media playbakc, my Xbox 360, Media player classic, GOM, VLC  - everything damnit!
I'm willing to goddamn wait as long as the end result is a smoother experience!I live in Australia, youtube and many flash videos here are frankly, bloody annoying, often we open a youtube video here, click play, let it start playing then quickly hit pause so it fills the full buffer :/    (if you don't quickly hit pause and it plays up to where the buffer end is, that can be a problem too)FWIW: I'm not a coder, perhaps this is significantly more complex than it sounds to impliment but damnit it could make many things smoother and simpler.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468294</id>
	<title>I thought the same thing for months</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1259682240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is really amazing design glitch on their part. Their 1.x binary is an universal and something Altivec designers/coders should really see.</p><p>These guys (they are also creators of MKV) seems to code old school with hand written assembly all over the place. There is no other explanation especially on G4.</p><p>I got the 1.3.2 (6909) here. The version 2.x could be Intel only, I really don't know for sure too since it isn't even released.</p><p>What it shows is the amount of optimization one can really do for a CPU having 133Mhz FSB so I really wished it was open source. Well, reality is sad sometimes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is really amazing design glitch on their part .
Their 1.x binary is an universal and something Altivec designers/coders should really see.These guys ( they are also creators of MKV ) seems to code old school with hand written assembly all over the place .
There is no other explanation especially on G4.I got the 1.3.2 ( 6909 ) here .
The version 2.x could be Intel only , I really do n't know for sure too since it is n't even released.What it shows is the amount of optimization one can really do for a CPU having 133Mhz FSB so I really wished it was open source .
Well , reality is sad sometimes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is really amazing design glitch on their part.
Their 1.x binary is an universal and something Altivec designers/coders should really see.These guys (they are also creators of MKV) seems to code old school with hand written assembly all over the place.
There is no other explanation especially on G4.I got the 1.3.2 (6909) here.
The version 2.x could be Intel only, I really don't know for sure too since it isn't even released.What it shows is the amount of optimization one can really do for a CPU having 133Mhz FSB so I really wished it was open source.
Well, reality is sad sometimes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30471342</id>
	<title>Re:This would be a great loss</title>
	<author>AbRASiON</author>
	<datestamp>1261048680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd like to apologise about me not knowing about any apps supporting this.<br>Last time I checked most apps did not support it and those which did it<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/simply didn't work properly/   much like the old Nero buffer never really ever worked.</p><p>We've got 4gb standard in machines now yet I can still see underrun stuff kick in way too fast on 4x DVD burns<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:/<br>As long as they support a couple of hundred mb buffer (for local video) apps, that would be good I'd think so I may try some of the suggestions, curse the entire wifi industry "54mbits" indeed, I always thought it was 8 bits to a byte not 21.6<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to apologise about me not knowing about any apps supporting this.Last time I checked most apps did not support it and those which did it /simply did n't work properly/ much like the old Nero buffer never really ever worked.We 've got 4gb standard in machines now yet I can still see underrun stuff kick in way too fast on 4x DVD burns : /As long as they support a couple of hundred mb buffer ( for local video ) apps , that would be good I 'd think so I may try some of the suggestions , curse the entire wifi industry " 54mbits " indeed , I always thought it was 8 bits to a byte not 21.6 : /</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to apologise about me not knowing about any apps supporting this.Last time I checked most apps did not support it and those which did it /simply didn't work properly/   much like the old Nero buffer never really ever worked.We've got 4gb standard in machines now yet I can still see underrun stuff kick in way too fast on 4x DVD burns :/As long as they support a couple of hundred mb buffer (for local video) apps, that would be good I'd think so I may try some of the suggestions, curse the entire wifi industry "54mbits" indeed, I always thought it was 8 bits to a byte not 21.6 :/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465048</id>
	<title>Eu Contraire</title>
	<author>plasmacutter</author>
	<datestamp>1259665860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My experience with VLC is that it has handled everything i've thrown at it admirably, with the few exceptions being horribly corrupted beyond recognition.</p><p>Mplayer will open and play more, but suffers horrible A/V desynch which, despite months of soliciting and applying arcane fix ideas, has remained persistent.</p><p>VLC is currently the only playback solution which can handle HD H.264 matroska without a major malfunction, and additionally has the highest quality video rendering, with more detail, smoother pans, and finer grained video controls than competitors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My experience with VLC is that it has handled everything i 've thrown at it admirably , with the few exceptions being horribly corrupted beyond recognition.Mplayer will open and play more , but suffers horrible A/V desynch which , despite months of soliciting and applying arcane fix ideas , has remained persistent.VLC is currently the only playback solution which can handle HD H.264 matroska without a major malfunction , and additionally has the highest quality video rendering , with more detail , smoother pans , and finer grained video controls than competitors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My experience with VLC is that it has handled everything i've thrown at it admirably, with the few exceptions being horribly corrupted beyond recognition.Mplayer will open and play more, but suffers horrible A/V desynch which, despite months of soliciting and applying arcane fix ideas, has remained persistent.VLC is currently the only playback solution which can handle HD H.264 matroska without a major malfunction, and additionally has the highest quality video rendering, with more detail, smoother pans, and finer grained video controls than competitors.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464892</id>
	<title>Oh fuck no</title>
	<author>ickleberry</author>
	<datestamp>1259665380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I remember when I had a Mac about 2 years ago it was very hard to find something that would burn CD's (yes I know VLC won't do this), play tunes and videos because the developers of all the alternative programs just gave up in the face of the mighty iTunes when that started to gain popularity.<br> <br>

And I hate, hate, hated iTunes, the interface, the then DRMified music store, the way it tried to force you to use a 'library' to store every single song that I only wanted to play once - it was and still is one of those programs like MPLAB [IDE for writing software for PIC] that just for some reason makes me want to dig my way to China with a teaspoon because that would be less stressful than using it.<br> <br>

Its like its authors decided the age-old concept of 'files' was not good enough anymore so their software (poorly) tries to portray the real-life concept of a dusty box filled with records while dumping every song into some random folder with a cryptic filename. But these wiseguys don't realise that I'd much rather deal with files that I can recognise by their filename, copy and move them with the well known 'cp' and 'mv' commands rather than having their craptastic software try to manage it all. <br> <br>

Having VLC go from the Mac would mean there is only one real alternative left - mplayer. Now mplayer is a fine piece of software but it's good to have VLC just in case, they both have their own distinct advantages.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember when I had a Mac about 2 years ago it was very hard to find something that would burn CD 's ( yes I know VLC wo n't do this ) , play tunes and videos because the developers of all the alternative programs just gave up in the face of the mighty iTunes when that started to gain popularity .
And I hate , hate , hated iTunes , the interface , the then DRMified music store , the way it tried to force you to use a 'library ' to store every single song that I only wanted to play once - it was and still is one of those programs like MPLAB [ IDE for writing software for PIC ] that just for some reason makes me want to dig my way to China with a teaspoon because that would be less stressful than using it .
Its like its authors decided the age-old concept of 'files ' was not good enough anymore so their software ( poorly ) tries to portray the real-life concept of a dusty box filled with records while dumping every song into some random folder with a cryptic filename .
But these wiseguys do n't realise that I 'd much rather deal with files that I can recognise by their filename , copy and move them with the well known 'cp ' and 'mv ' commands rather than having their craptastic software try to manage it all .
Having VLC go from the Mac would mean there is only one real alternative left - mplayer .
Now mplayer is a fine piece of software but it 's good to have VLC just in case , they both have their own distinct advantages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember when I had a Mac about 2 years ago it was very hard to find something that would burn CD's (yes I know VLC won't do this), play tunes and videos because the developers of all the alternative programs just gave up in the face of the mighty iTunes when that started to gain popularity.
And I hate, hate, hated iTunes, the interface, the then DRMified music store, the way it tried to force you to use a 'library' to store every single song that I only wanted to play once - it was and still is one of those programs like MPLAB [IDE for writing software for PIC] that just for some reason makes me want to dig my way to China with a teaspoon because that would be less stressful than using it.
Its like its authors decided the age-old concept of 'files' was not good enough anymore so their software (poorly) tries to portray the real-life concept of a dusty box filled with records while dumping every song into some random folder with a cryptic filename.
But these wiseguys don't realise that I'd much rather deal with files that I can recognise by their filename, copy and move them with the well known 'cp' and 'mv' commands rather than having their craptastic software try to manage it all.
Having VLC go from the Mac would mean there is only one real alternative left - mplayer.
Now mplayer is a fine piece of software but it's good to have VLC just in case, they both have their own distinct advantages.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465614</id>
	<title>Developers Developers Developers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259667480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It turns out they are probably tired of Apple being restrictive about what can and cannot be done.</p><p>More Macs are switching to PC, w00t.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It turns out they are probably tired of Apple being restrictive about what can and can not be done.More Macs are switching to PC , w00t .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It turns out they are probably tired of Apple being restrictive about what can and cannot be done.More Macs are switching to PC, w00t.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465260</id>
	<title>Re:Oh fuck no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259666580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But these wiseguys don't realise that I'd much rather deal with files that I can recognise by their filename, copy and move them with the well known 'cp' and 'mv' commands rather than having their craptastic software try to manage it all.</p></div><p>Step 1: Tell iTunes not to manage my library.</p><p>Step 2: Drag the 30GB "music" folder from the fileserver onto iTunes and wait for it to index everything.</p><p>Step 3: Have easy access to all my music, with not a file moved or renamed.</p><p>There are plenty of reasons why you might not like iTunes, but if you're 'leet enough not to like the way it handles your files, then you're 'leet enough to tell it not to.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But these wiseguys do n't realise that I 'd much rather deal with files that I can recognise by their filename , copy and move them with the well known 'cp ' and 'mv ' commands rather than having their craptastic software try to manage it all.Step 1 : Tell iTunes not to manage my library.Step 2 : Drag the 30GB " music " folder from the fileserver onto iTunes and wait for it to index everything.Step 3 : Have easy access to all my music , with not a file moved or renamed.There are plenty of reasons why you might not like iTunes , but if you 're 'leet enough not to like the way it handles your files , then you 're 'leet enough to tell it not to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But these wiseguys don't realise that I'd much rather deal with files that I can recognise by their filename, copy and move them with the well known 'cp' and 'mv' commands rather than having their craptastic software try to manage it all.Step 1: Tell iTunes not to manage my library.Step 2: Drag the 30GB "music" folder from the fileserver onto iTunes and wait for it to index everything.Step 3: Have easy access to all my music, with not a file moved or renamed.There are plenty of reasons why you might not like iTunes, but if you're 'leet enough not to like the way it handles your files, then you're 'leet enough to tell it not to.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30469518</id>
	<title>Re:This would be a great loss</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259692440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Install Linux.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Install Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Install Linux.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467866</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares</title>
	<author>jo\_ham</author>
	<datestamp>1259679180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't you have homework to do?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't you have homework to do ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't you have homework to do?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466876</id>
	<title>Re:OS X needs VLC</title>
	<author>Cormophyte</author>
	<datestamp>1259673000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To always open a particular file type with a particular program you...</p><p>For example:</p><p>1) Select any<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.avi file in the Finder<br>2) Get info<br>3) Change the "Open with:" program and hit the "Change All..." button</p><p>Same thing with any other file type.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To always open a particular file type with a particular program you...For example : 1 ) Select any .avi file in the Finder2 ) Get info3 ) Change the " Open with : " program and hit the " Change All... " buttonSame thing with any other file type .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To always open a particular file type with a particular program you...For example:1) Select any .avi file in the Finder2) Get info3) Change the "Open with:" program and hit the "Change All..." buttonSame thing with any other file type.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464730</id>
	<title>Sick</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259664960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's going to be a million and two volunteers now since this is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>./'d</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's going to be a million and two volunteers now since this is ./ 'd</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's going to be a million and two volunteers now since this is ./'d</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466090</id>
	<title>Re:OS X needs VLC</title>
	<author>ducomputergeek</author>
	<datestamp>1259669160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, basically, you're mad that it won't play your pirated movies out of the box?  I've got karma to burn, so time to feed the trolls.</p><p>Yeah, I'm going to assume that you really have no idea how the encoder/decoder market works or video production in general.   Basically, there are companies that create codecs like DivX and then require payment to encode and distribute videos using their codec because of patents.  In order for Apple to ship DivX, they would have to license DivX from DivX.  Why should apple pay the licensing fee when they can direct users here: <a href="http://www.divx.com/en/mac" title="divx.com">http://www.divx.com/en/mac</a> [divx.com] and the user can download and install for free?  I mean the last time I dealt with Windows I remember having to go and fetch the DivX Codec.  And the last time I set up a new Mac, QuickTime popped up when it could find the Codec, knew what kind of file it was, and provided a link to the Divx site to go download it.  All of this has to do with Licensing.  It's really more of a legal issue than a technical one.  So how is software licensing and patents preventing them from shipping every codec known to man Apple's fault again?  Because unlike a lot of F/OSS projects, Apple can't be 100\% based out of Hungry or France to circumvent these licensing restrictions.  The do business in the United States and other countries that do recognize and enforce these copyright treaties.  Technically, downloading and using VLC and FFMPEG in the United States constitutes infringement on various Codec patents, but that's a topic for another thread and another day.    Also I would check on Windows.  If it shipped with DivX, chances are that was added by the PC vender in a 3rd party deal, not by Microsoft.  (Actually I don't pay attention to who is licensing what these days).</p><p>MKV isn't a format, it's a container.  Just like<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.MOV is a container as is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.AVI.  The quality inside a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.MKV,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.AVI, or<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.MOV is all dependent upon the compression and codecs used not the container format.  And the last time I tried playing MKV files, the program took up WAY too many system resources.  The only place that I've seen MKV as a popular format is with Azurus/Vuze.  In fact, I've never seen it used outside of Vuze.  Occasionally you'll see it in a torrent, but they are mostly DivX/Avi.</p><p>The fact that macs can't play Blu-Ray or HD-DVD has to do with the fact that Apple doesn't ship any models with said player.  MAC LACKS THE HARDWARE NEEDED IN ORDER TO READ EITHER FORMAT  That has nothing to do with Quicktime and Codecs.  When I worked in video production, nobody was adopting either optical format.  It was clear to many of us that Optical Media was going the way of the floppy disk and this was in 2003.  By the time HD-DVD or Blu-Ray won the format wars, it would be too late, we'd see everything delivered via a digital stream.  The only question was, is it going to be an iTunes like store where you buy the item to a set top box/hard drive or whether it was going to be via streaming like Hulu or Netflix.  So far it looks like there is a market for both.  But time will tell.</p><p>And I see a lot of people electing to skip the Blu-Ray player in favor of a media PC/Mac hooked up to their TV and streaming Netflix or Hulu to their TV.  I've been using a Mac MIni for this purpose since 2005.  I know I have.   To me, the extra quality for twice the price of a DVD plus the cost of the player isn't worth it to me.  I'll put up with watching my TV shows from Hulu when I have extra time at my connivence, even if the quality isn't the same as on HD.  It' good enough for me and plenty of other people too.</p><p>Now, I have to say that I'm generally happy with Quicktime X.  Quicktime had been languishing for years and this was a much needed up date.  It runs faster and smoother than the previous versions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , basically , you 're mad that it wo n't play your pirated movies out of the box ?
I 've got karma to burn , so time to feed the trolls.Yeah , I 'm going to assume that you really have no idea how the encoder/decoder market works or video production in general .
Basically , there are companies that create codecs like DivX and then require payment to encode and distribute videos using their codec because of patents .
In order for Apple to ship DivX , they would have to license DivX from DivX .
Why should apple pay the licensing fee when they can direct users here : http : //www.divx.com/en/mac [ divx.com ] and the user can download and install for free ?
I mean the last time I dealt with Windows I remember having to go and fetch the DivX Codec .
And the last time I set up a new Mac , QuickTime popped up when it could find the Codec , knew what kind of file it was , and provided a link to the Divx site to go download it .
All of this has to do with Licensing .
It 's really more of a legal issue than a technical one .
So how is software licensing and patents preventing them from shipping every codec known to man Apple 's fault again ?
Because unlike a lot of F/OSS projects , Apple ca n't be 100 \ % based out of Hungry or France to circumvent these licensing restrictions .
The do business in the United States and other countries that do recognize and enforce these copyright treaties .
Technically , downloading and using VLC and FFMPEG in the United States constitutes infringement on various Codec patents , but that 's a topic for another thread and another day .
Also I would check on Windows .
If it shipped with DivX , chances are that was added by the PC vender in a 3rd party deal , not by Microsoft .
( Actually I do n't pay attention to who is licensing what these days ) .MKV is n't a format , it 's a container .
Just like .MOV is a container as is .AVI .
The quality inside a .MKV , .AVI , or .MOV is all dependent upon the compression and codecs used not the container format .
And the last time I tried playing MKV files , the program took up WAY too many system resources .
The only place that I 've seen MKV as a popular format is with Azurus/Vuze .
In fact , I 've never seen it used outside of Vuze .
Occasionally you 'll see it in a torrent , but they are mostly DivX/Avi.The fact that macs ca n't play Blu-Ray or HD-DVD has to do with the fact that Apple does n't ship any models with said player .
MAC LACKS THE HARDWARE NEEDED IN ORDER TO READ EITHER FORMAT That has nothing to do with Quicktime and Codecs .
When I worked in video production , nobody was adopting either optical format .
It was clear to many of us that Optical Media was going the way of the floppy disk and this was in 2003 .
By the time HD-DVD or Blu-Ray won the format wars , it would be too late , we 'd see everything delivered via a digital stream .
The only question was , is it going to be an iTunes like store where you buy the item to a set top box/hard drive or whether it was going to be via streaming like Hulu or Netflix .
So far it looks like there is a market for both .
But time will tell.And I see a lot of people electing to skip the Blu-Ray player in favor of a media PC/Mac hooked up to their TV and streaming Netflix or Hulu to their TV .
I 've been using a Mac MIni for this purpose since 2005 .
I know I have .
To me , the extra quality for twice the price of a DVD plus the cost of the player is n't worth it to me .
I 'll put up with watching my TV shows from Hulu when I have extra time at my connivence , even if the quality is n't the same as on HD .
It ' good enough for me and plenty of other people too.Now , I have to say that I 'm generally happy with Quicktime X. Quicktime had been languishing for years and this was a much needed up date .
It runs faster and smoother than the previous versions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, basically, you're mad that it won't play your pirated movies out of the box?
I've got karma to burn, so time to feed the trolls.Yeah, I'm going to assume that you really have no idea how the encoder/decoder market works or video production in general.
Basically, there are companies that create codecs like DivX and then require payment to encode and distribute videos using their codec because of patents.
In order for Apple to ship DivX, they would have to license DivX from DivX.
Why should apple pay the licensing fee when they can direct users here: http://www.divx.com/en/mac [divx.com] and the user can download and install for free?
I mean the last time I dealt with Windows I remember having to go and fetch the DivX Codec.
And the last time I set up a new Mac, QuickTime popped up when it could find the Codec, knew what kind of file it was, and provided a link to the Divx site to go download it.
All of this has to do with Licensing.
It's really more of a legal issue than a technical one.
So how is software licensing and patents preventing them from shipping every codec known to man Apple's fault again?
Because unlike a lot of F/OSS projects, Apple can't be 100\% based out of Hungry or France to circumvent these licensing restrictions.
The do business in the United States and other countries that do recognize and enforce these copyright treaties.
Technically, downloading and using VLC and FFMPEG in the United States constitutes infringement on various Codec patents, but that's a topic for another thread and another day.
Also I would check on Windows.
If it shipped with DivX, chances are that was added by the PC vender in a 3rd party deal, not by Microsoft.
(Actually I don't pay attention to who is licensing what these days).MKV isn't a format, it's a container.
Just like .MOV is a container as is .AVI.
The quality inside a .MKV, .AVI, or .MOV is all dependent upon the compression and codecs used not the container format.
And the last time I tried playing MKV files, the program took up WAY too many system resources.
The only place that I've seen MKV as a popular format is with Azurus/Vuze.
In fact, I've never seen it used outside of Vuze.
Occasionally you'll see it in a torrent, but they are mostly DivX/Avi.The fact that macs can't play Blu-Ray or HD-DVD has to do with the fact that Apple doesn't ship any models with said player.
MAC LACKS THE HARDWARE NEEDED IN ORDER TO READ EITHER FORMAT  That has nothing to do with Quicktime and Codecs.
When I worked in video production, nobody was adopting either optical format.
It was clear to many of us that Optical Media was going the way of the floppy disk and this was in 2003.
By the time HD-DVD or Blu-Ray won the format wars, it would be too late, we'd see everything delivered via a digital stream.
The only question was, is it going to be an iTunes like store where you buy the item to a set top box/hard drive or whether it was going to be via streaming like Hulu or Netflix.
So far it looks like there is a market for both.
But time will tell.And I see a lot of people electing to skip the Blu-Ray player in favor of a media PC/Mac hooked up to their TV and streaming Netflix or Hulu to their TV.
I've been using a Mac MIni for this purpose since 2005.
I know I have.
To me, the extra quality for twice the price of a DVD plus the cost of the player isn't worth it to me.
I'll put up with watching my TV shows from Hulu when I have extra time at my connivence, even if the quality isn't the same as on HD.
It' good enough for me and plenty of other people too.Now, I have to say that I'm generally happy with Quicktime X.  Quicktime had been languishing for years and this was a much needed up date.
It runs faster and smoother than the previous versions.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466200</id>
	<title>Re:VLC is an amazing, gigantic success on OS X</title>
	<author>EXrider</author>
	<datestamp>1259669700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Coreplayer OS X<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... which does amazing things like playing 720P HD/H264 on G4 1.42 Ghz.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Why am I <a href="http://coreplayer.com/content/view/31/69/" title="coreplayer.com" rel="nofollow">only seeing</a> [coreplayer.com] an x86 version available for Mac OS X then?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Coreplayer OS X ... which does amazing things like playing 720P HD/H264 on G4 1.42 Ghz .
Why am I only seeing [ coreplayer.com ] an x86 version available for Mac OS X then ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Coreplayer OS X ... which does amazing things like playing 720P HD/H264 on G4 1.42 Ghz.
Why am I only seeing [coreplayer.com] an x86 version available for Mac OS X then?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466680</id>
	<title>Re:Oh fuck no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259672040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whenever I do that iTunes spits out something like "We're gonna go ahead and index everything in folders the way we want anyway, since we run this bitch and you better recognize."
<p>
Sarcasm aside, when you're transferring &gt;100GB of music iTunes sucks balls. Also the overhead of iTunes makes it pretty annoying when you just want to pop a file to preview real quick, or watch a DVD without all the fucking waiting and protection bullshit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whenever I do that iTunes spits out something like " We 're gon na go ahead and index everything in folders the way we want anyway , since we run this bitch and you better recognize .
" Sarcasm aside , when you 're transferring &gt; 100GB of music iTunes sucks balls .
Also the overhead of iTunes makes it pretty annoying when you just want to pop a file to preview real quick , or watch a DVD without all the fucking waiting and protection bullshit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whenever I do that iTunes spits out something like "We're gonna go ahead and index everything in folders the way we want anyway, since we run this bitch and you better recognize.
"

Sarcasm aside, when you're transferring &gt;100GB of music iTunes sucks balls.
Also the overhead of iTunes makes it pretty annoying when you just want to pop a file to preview real quick, or watch a DVD without all the fucking waiting and protection bullshit.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466700</id>
	<title>Re:user-friendly?</title>
	<author>straponego</author>
	<datestamp>1259672160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Pretty sure that's an option somewhere in VLC; on Windows it does the Mac single-window thing by default, and there was an "advanced option" to change it iirc.  But on Linux it opened a new window by default.  Lots of people with &gt;1 monitor these days...<br><br>Now if only the flashtards at youtube et al would realize you might want to maximize a video on one screen and touch the keyboard in another window, that the entire world does not grind to a halt just because you're doing your job... and if only they'd let us fix their warped aspect ratios... the state of the art would be nearly mediocre!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty sure that 's an option somewhere in VLC ; on Windows it does the Mac single-window thing by default , and there was an " advanced option " to change it iirc .
But on Linux it opened a new window by default .
Lots of people with &gt; 1 monitor these days...Now if only the flashtards at youtube et al would realize you might want to maximize a video on one screen and touch the keyboard in another window , that the entire world does not grind to a halt just because you 're doing your job... and if only they 'd let us fix their warped aspect ratios... the state of the art would be nearly mediocre !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty sure that's an option somewhere in VLC; on Windows it does the Mac single-window thing by default, and there was an "advanced option" to change it iirc.
But on Linux it opened a new window by default.
Lots of people with &gt;1 monitor these days...Now if only the flashtards at youtube et al would realize you might want to maximize a video on one screen and touch the keyboard in another window, that the entire world does not grind to a halt just because you're doing your job... and if only they'd let us fix their warped aspect ratios... the state of the art would be nearly mediocre!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468890</id>
	<title>Re:This would be a great loss</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259687340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you can start here<br>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer\_programming</p><p>good luck</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you can start herehttp : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer \ _programminggood luck</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you can start herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer\_programminggood luck</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466068</id>
	<title>Re:Mplayer OSX Extended</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259669100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Make sure you have selected multithreaded FFmpeg in preferences. A single core of a modern processor is not able to decode 1080p H264 without dropping frames so you'll need the multithreaded option.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Make sure you have selected multithreaded FFmpeg in preferences .
A single core of a modern processor is not able to decode 1080p H264 without dropping frames so you 'll need the multithreaded option .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make sure you have selected multithreaded FFmpeg in preferences.
A single core of a modern processor is not able to decode 1080p H264 without dropping frames so you'll need the multithreaded option.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467728</id>
	<title>Re:OS X is UNIX</title>
	<author>joe\_bruin</author>
	<datestamp>1259678280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Not exactly... Apple has been slowly squeezing the Carbon (std. C++ lib set) into non-existence, which means you get to do it in Cocoa (that is, Obj-C).</p></div><p>Objective C / C++ is only required for doing the UI.  99\% of your project can remain in C or C++ with only a very thin shim in Obj-C for the UI layer.  There is no requirement to move your code base to except for the Mac-specific UI layer.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>IIRC, there's no 64-bit Carbon love in SL, though the 32-bit Carbon libs should still be happily intact.</p></div><p>There is no 64 bit Carbon, because it's a relic.  Cocoa easily mixes with C code (Obj-C is just C with extra stuff).  Unless you're Adobe and you have a huge amount of UI code in Carbon, there is no reason to keep hanging on to it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>There's also (IIRC) Grand Central to contend with when you're dinking around with video, and I doubt that you could find an easy parallel for that when porting in from *nix.</p></div><p>Grand Central Dispatch is not required for video at all.  Mac OS X supports the standard POSIX pthreads interface for threading.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not exactly... Apple has been slowly squeezing the Carbon ( std .
C + + lib set ) into non-existence , which means you get to do it in Cocoa ( that is , Obj-C ) .Objective C / C + + is only required for doing the UI .
99 \ % of your project can remain in C or C + + with only a very thin shim in Obj-C for the UI layer .
There is no requirement to move your code base to except for the Mac-specific UI layer.IIRC , there 's no 64-bit Carbon love in SL , though the 32-bit Carbon libs should still be happily intact.There is no 64 bit Carbon , because it 's a relic .
Cocoa easily mixes with C code ( Obj-C is just C with extra stuff ) .
Unless you 're Adobe and you have a huge amount of UI code in Carbon , there is no reason to keep hanging on to it.There 's also ( IIRC ) Grand Central to contend with when you 're dinking around with video , and I doubt that you could find an easy parallel for that when porting in from * nix.Grand Central Dispatch is not required for video at all .
Mac OS X supports the standard POSIX pthreads interface for threading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not exactly... Apple has been slowly squeezing the Carbon (std.
C++ lib set) into non-existence, which means you get to do it in Cocoa (that is, Obj-C).Objective C / C++ is only required for doing the UI.
99\% of your project can remain in C or C++ with only a very thin shim in Obj-C for the UI layer.
There is no requirement to move your code base to except for the Mac-specific UI layer.IIRC, there's no 64-bit Carbon love in SL, though the 32-bit Carbon libs should still be happily intact.There is no 64 bit Carbon, because it's a relic.
Cocoa easily mixes with C code (Obj-C is just C with extra stuff).
Unless you're Adobe and you have a huge amount of UI code in Carbon, there is no reason to keep hanging on to it.There's also (IIRC) Grand Central to contend with when you're dinking around with video, and I doubt that you could find an easy parallel for that when porting in from *nix.Grand Central Dispatch is not required for video at all.
Mac OS X supports the standard POSIX pthreads interface for threading.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468584</id>
	<title>Re:user-friendly?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259684940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He a Mac user, ofcoruse he did not bother to open the preference. He expect everything to Just work(tm)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He a Mac user , ofcoruse he did not bother to open the preference .
He expect everything to Just work ( tm )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He a Mac user, ofcoruse he did not bother to open the preference.
He expect everything to Just work(tm)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468640</id>
	<title>Re:AbiWord faces the same issue</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259685300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have the same problem with the LiVES project. Over 3 years ago, I managed to compile the sourcecode for OSX/Darwin, it took a lot of fiddling around, but it worked. I excitedly posted the news on the website and mailing lists, but no OSX users seemed interested. Since then, the code has changed a lot, fixes were made for it to compile on IRIX and Solaris.<br>
&nbsp; <br>Recently somebody posted a forum message noting <a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/lives/forums/forum/767879/topic/3466634" title="sourceforge.net">how easy it now is to compile under OSX</a> [sourceforge.net]. I again posted this news, and asked if somebody could kindly compile it and send me a link to the resulting binary. Since then...nothing. Hence I have come to a conclusion about OSX users...well, I will let you guess what it is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have the same problem with the LiVES project .
Over 3 years ago , I managed to compile the sourcecode for OSX/Darwin , it took a lot of fiddling around , but it worked .
I excitedly posted the news on the website and mailing lists , but no OSX users seemed interested .
Since then , the code has changed a lot , fixes were made for it to compile on IRIX and Solaris .
  Recently somebody posted a forum message noting how easy it now is to compile under OSX [ sourceforge.net ] .
I again posted this news , and asked if somebody could kindly compile it and send me a link to the resulting binary .
Since then...nothing .
Hence I have come to a conclusion about OSX users...well , I will let you guess what it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have the same problem with the LiVES project.
Over 3 years ago, I managed to compile the sourcecode for OSX/Darwin, it took a lot of fiddling around, but it worked.
I excitedly posted the news on the website and mailing lists, but no OSX users seemed interested.
Since then, the code has changed a lot, fixes were made for it to compile on IRIX and Solaris.
  Recently somebody posted a forum message noting how easy it now is to compile under OSX [sourceforge.net].
I again posted this news, and asked if somebody could kindly compile it and send me a link to the resulting binary.
Since then...nothing.
Hence I have come to a conclusion about OSX users...well, I will let you guess what it is.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468516</id>
	<title>Re:OS X needs VLC</title>
	<author>jasonwc</author>
	<datestamp>1259684160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you misunderstood a lot of what I said.</p><p>I know perfectly well that Matroska is a container, not a format. If my language was ambiguous, I apologize. I mentioned that pretty much all HD videos and the higher-quality SD videos use the MKV container because it supports audio formats easily such as AC3, DTS, and FLAC which AVI and MP4 can't easily do. In addition, is it even possible to embed soft subtitles in an AVI file? I've only seen separate SRT files. I know the Matroska format supports the inclusion of SRT subs.</p><p>As for the part about Quicktime not supporting H.264 encoded from a Blu-Ray, you again misunderstood me. Here is what I said:</p><p>"- Can't play H.264 above Baseline. That means you can't play H.264 from a Blu-Ray/HD DVD or any (decent) x264 encodes. Pretty much limits you to iTunes downloads"</p><p>I said that Quicktime can't play H.264 video from a Blu-Ray/HD DVD - not that it can't play the disk itself. Blu-Ray supports 3 formats - MPEG-2, VC-1 and H.264 (AVC). H.264 video in both the Blu-Ray and HD DVD format is encoded at "High Profile" - to be more technical Level 4.1. Quicktime only supports videos encoded at Baseline - or more techically, Level 3.1. You can strip out the H.264 video, convert it from the m2ts to a a Quicktime-complaint MP4 container file and it still will not work in Quicktime because of the lack of High Profile support. So, pretty much everything you said about my comments was irrelevant.</p><p>And to be technical, Blu-Ray is just an optical disk format. It can be used for movies, audio, or just to store data files.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you misunderstood a lot of what I said.I know perfectly well that Matroska is a container , not a format .
If my language was ambiguous , I apologize .
I mentioned that pretty much all HD videos and the higher-quality SD videos use the MKV container because it supports audio formats easily such as AC3 , DTS , and FLAC which AVI and MP4 ca n't easily do .
In addition , is it even possible to embed soft subtitles in an AVI file ?
I 've only seen separate SRT files .
I know the Matroska format supports the inclusion of SRT subs.As for the part about Quicktime not supporting H.264 encoded from a Blu-Ray , you again misunderstood me .
Here is what I said : " - Ca n't play H.264 above Baseline .
That means you ca n't play H.264 from a Blu-Ray/HD DVD or any ( decent ) x264 encodes .
Pretty much limits you to iTunes downloads " I said that Quicktime ca n't play H.264 video from a Blu-Ray/HD DVD - not that it ca n't play the disk itself .
Blu-Ray supports 3 formats - MPEG-2 , VC-1 and H.264 ( AVC ) .
H.264 video in both the Blu-Ray and HD DVD format is encoded at " High Profile " - to be more technical Level 4.1 .
Quicktime only supports videos encoded at Baseline - or more techically , Level 3.1 .
You can strip out the H.264 video , convert it from the m2ts to a a Quicktime-complaint MP4 container file and it still will not work in Quicktime because of the lack of High Profile support .
So , pretty much everything you said about my comments was irrelevant.And to be technical , Blu-Ray is just an optical disk format .
It can be used for movies , audio , or just to store data files .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you misunderstood a lot of what I said.I know perfectly well that Matroska is a container, not a format.
If my language was ambiguous, I apologize.
I mentioned that pretty much all HD videos and the higher-quality SD videos use the MKV container because it supports audio formats easily such as AC3, DTS, and FLAC which AVI and MP4 can't easily do.
In addition, is it even possible to embed soft subtitles in an AVI file?
I've only seen separate SRT files.
I know the Matroska format supports the inclusion of SRT subs.As for the part about Quicktime not supporting H.264 encoded from a Blu-Ray, you again misunderstood me.
Here is what I said:"- Can't play H.264 above Baseline.
That means you can't play H.264 from a Blu-Ray/HD DVD or any (decent) x264 encodes.
Pretty much limits you to iTunes downloads"I said that Quicktime can't play H.264 video from a Blu-Ray/HD DVD - not that it can't play the disk itself.
Blu-Ray supports 3 formats - MPEG-2, VC-1 and H.264 (AVC).
H.264 video in both the Blu-Ray and HD DVD format is encoded at "High Profile" - to be more technical Level 4.1.
Quicktime only supports videos encoded at Baseline - or more techically, Level 3.1.
You can strip out the H.264 video, convert it from the m2ts to a a Quicktime-complaint MP4 container file and it still will not work in Quicktime because of the lack of High Profile support.
So, pretty much everything you said about my comments was irrelevant.And to be technical, Blu-Ray is just an optical disk format.
It can be used for movies, audio, or just to store data files.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466090</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464840</id>
	<title>Re:Moot</title>
	<author>spyder-implee</author>
	<datestamp>1259665260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Haha, yeah right after GM switches their cars to electric engines.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Haha , yeah right after GM switches their cars to electric engines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Haha, yeah right after GM switches their cars to electric engines.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464724</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30542632</id>
	<title>Re:I'll help!</title>
	<author>rsidd</author>
	<datestamp>1261649520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rather than hope the VLC developers will read this, you could, you know, e-mail vlc-devel@videolan.org?  You don't need to register to do that, and it is what the story asks you to do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rather than hope the VLC developers will read this , you could , you know , e-mail vlc-devel @ videolan.org ?
You do n't need to register to do that , and it is what the story asks you to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rather than hope the VLC developers will read this, you could, you know, e-mail vlc-devel@videolan.org?
You don't need to register to do that, and it is what the story asks you to do.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465594</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467364</id>
	<title>Re:Mplayer OSX Extended</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1259676000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's the quality like?  VLC uses a lot less CPU than QuickTime on my Macs, but the quality is a lot lower - it doesn't do the same amount of postprocessing as QuickTime and so things like the BBC logo in the corner are crisp with QT and covered in macroblocking with VLC.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the quality like ?
VLC uses a lot less CPU than QuickTime on my Macs , but the quality is a lot lower - it does n't do the same amount of postprocessing as QuickTime and so things like the BBC logo in the corner are crisp with QT and covered in macroblocking with VLC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the quality like?
VLC uses a lot less CPU than QuickTime on my Macs, but the quality is a lot lower - it doesn't do the same amount of postprocessing as QuickTime and so things like the BBC logo in the corner are crisp with QT and covered in macroblocking with VLC.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465446</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30541840</id>
	<title>Re:user-friendly?</title>
	<author>vaporland</author>
	<datestamp>1259776560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>busted viewing porn AVIs again?</htmltext>
<tokenext>busted viewing porn AVIs again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>busted viewing porn AVIs again?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464780</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30469546</id>
	<title>Re:user-friendly?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259692560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the VLC preferences window is the only place that rivals the web in ability to surf for hours and still not find what you're looking for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the VLC preferences window is the only place that rivals the web in ability to surf for hours and still not find what you 're looking for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the VLC preferences window is the only place that rivals the web in ability to surf for hours and still not find what you're looking for.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465916</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465310</id>
	<title>Mac people don't want VLC</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1259666640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can't use VLC with a turtle-neck sweater and maintain that pretentious twat aura.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't use VLC with a turtle-neck sweater and maintain that pretentious twat aura .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't use VLC with a turtle-neck sweater and maintain that pretentious twat aura.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465906</id>
	<title>FIRST?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259668560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">OpenBSD wanker Theo of 3hallenges that confirming the private sex party</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>OpenBSD wanker Theo of 3hallenges that confirming the private sex party [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OpenBSD wanker Theo of 3hallenges that confirming the private sex party [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465676</id>
	<title>Re:Oh fuck no</title>
	<author>thetagger</author>
	<datestamp>1259667720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But these wiseguys don't realise that I'd much rather deal with files that I can recognise by their filename, copy and move them with the well known 'cp' and 'mv' commands rather than having their craptastic software try to manage it all.</p> </div><p>Meanwhile, the other 99\% of humankind is happy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But these wiseguys do n't realise that I 'd much rather deal with files that I can recognise by their filename , copy and move them with the well known 'cp ' and 'mv ' commands rather than having their craptastic software try to manage it all .
Meanwhile , the other 99 \ % of humankind is happy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But these wiseguys don't realise that I'd much rather deal with files that I can recognise by their filename, copy and move them with the well known 'cp' and 'mv' commands rather than having their craptastic software try to manage it all.
Meanwhile, the other 99\% of humankind is happy.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465662</id>
	<title>Volume Amp is a VLC-only feature</title>
	<author>rsborg</author>
	<datestamp>1259667660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Quicktime + Perian can't solve my "source videos are unusually low in volume, or my laptop speakers suck"... which happens a lot. VLC is nice in that the volume slider goes to 4x.
<p>
I also have never had issues with playback in VLC where QT+Perian did any better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Quicktime + Perian ca n't solve my " source videos are unusually low in volume , or my laptop speakers suck " ... which happens a lot .
VLC is nice in that the volume slider goes to 4x .
I also have never had issues with playback in VLC where QT + Perian did any better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quicktime + Perian can't solve my "source videos are unusually low in volume, or my laptop speakers suck"... which happens a lot.
VLC is nice in that the volume slider goes to 4x.
I also have never had issues with playback in VLC where QT+Perian did any better.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465916</id>
	<title>Re:user-friendly?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259668620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Whoever takes the job, please remove the stupid "anything I want to play gets added to a stupid playlist" thing. When I open a video with QuickTime, it plays that video. If I open another video at the same time, it opens up another QuickTime window.</p><p>VLC is more like QuickTime (video player) but it currently acts more like iTunes (media library player).</p></div><p>Have you even bothered to open the preferences? It right there in the Interface pane (simple settings view):<br>Allow only one instance [x]<br>Enqueue files when in one instance mode[x]<br>Just uncheck "Allow only one instance".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whoever takes the job , please remove the stupid " anything I want to play gets added to a stupid playlist " thing .
When I open a video with QuickTime , it plays that video .
If I open another video at the same time , it opens up another QuickTime window.VLC is more like QuickTime ( video player ) but it currently acts more like iTunes ( media library player ) .Have you even bothered to open the preferences ?
It right there in the Interface pane ( simple settings view ) : Allow only one instance [ x ] Enqueue files when in one instance mode [ x ] Just uncheck " Allow only one instance " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whoever takes the job, please remove the stupid "anything I want to play gets added to a stupid playlist" thing.
When I open a video with QuickTime, it plays that video.
If I open another video at the same time, it opens up another QuickTime window.VLC is more like QuickTime (video player) but it currently acts more like iTunes (media library player).Have you even bothered to open the preferences?
It right there in the Interface pane (simple settings view):Allow only one instance [x]Enqueue files when in one instance mode[x]Just uncheck "Allow only one instance".
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464780</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466096</id>
	<title>Re:Handbrake</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259669220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Let's remember that Handbrake uses VLC for video decoding. No more VLC = no more handbrake.</p></div><p>Handbrake uses VLC to decypt the copy protection on DVDs not to encode them. The library is free and opensource. It's technically illegal to distribute it so Handbrake let's VLC do it's dirty work. Maybe they will start including it in the builds of Handbrake.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's remember that Handbrake uses VLC for video decoding .
No more VLC = no more handbrake.Handbrake uses VLC to decypt the copy protection on DVDs not to encode them .
The library is free and opensource .
It 's technically illegal to distribute it so Handbrake let 's VLC do it 's dirty work .
Maybe they will start including it in the builds of Handbrake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's remember that Handbrake uses VLC for video decoding.
No more VLC = no more handbrake.Handbrake uses VLC to decypt the copy protection on DVDs not to encode them.
The library is free and opensource.
It's technically illegal to distribute it so Handbrake let's VLC do it's dirty work.
Maybe they will start including it in the builds of Handbrake.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464844</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464722</id>
	<title>This would be a great loss</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259664960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The DVD player that comes with Apple's computers is rather intolerant of scratches, etc., and will report "Skipping damaged area..." then skip ahead a ridiculous amount.  VLC will play fine right through the supposedly damaged segment.  Losing VLC for the Mac would be terrible.  If I knew anything about programming, I'd think about joining this project.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The DVD player that comes with Apple 's computers is rather intolerant of scratches , etc. , and will report " Skipping damaged area... " then skip ahead a ridiculous amount .
VLC will play fine right through the supposedly damaged segment .
Losing VLC for the Mac would be terrible .
If I knew anything about programming , I 'd think about joining this project .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The DVD player that comes with Apple's computers is rather intolerant of scratches, etc., and will report "Skipping damaged area..." then skip ahead a ridiculous amount.
VLC will play fine right through the supposedly damaged segment.
Losing VLC for the Mac would be terrible.
If I knew anything about programming, I'd think about joining this project.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30469394</id>
	<title>Re:VLC is an amazing, gigantic success on OS X</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259691420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that's a user community.  and if the community is nothing but a bunch of whining users, they need to pay their suppliers.</p><p>meanwhile, vlc, mplayer, gstreamer (totem), and xine all work fine on any linux you choose</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that 's a user community .
and if the community is nothing but a bunch of whining users , they need to pay their suppliers.meanwhile , vlc , mplayer , gstreamer ( totem ) , and xine all work fine on any linux you choose</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that's a user community.
and if the community is nothing but a bunch of whining users, they need to pay their suppliers.meanwhile, vlc, mplayer, gstreamer (totem), and xine all work fine on any linux you choose</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465398</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30471614</id>
	<title>Re:This would be a great loss</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1261050960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are totally correct, it is not that hard to implement. It's mostly not done because of DRM worries, I think, which is ignorant at best and generally ineffectual but nonetheless pretty standard. I can't speak for anyone else, but I dropped Xbox Live Gold because netflix doesn't buffer whole movies and I can't watch them at  512kbps (which is all I can get.) My connection's latency isn't good enough for online gaming, so netflix was my only reason to have it. Would have been enough, too, with whole-movie buffering.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are totally correct , it is not that hard to implement .
It 's mostly not done because of DRM worries , I think , which is ignorant at best and generally ineffectual but nonetheless pretty standard .
I ca n't speak for anyone else , but I dropped Xbox Live Gold because netflix does n't buffer whole movies and I ca n't watch them at 512kbps ( which is all I can get .
) My connection 's latency is n't good enough for online gaming , so netflix was my only reason to have it .
Would have been enough , too , with whole-movie buffering .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are totally correct, it is not that hard to implement.
It's mostly not done because of DRM worries, I think, which is ignorant at best and generally ineffectual but nonetheless pretty standard.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I dropped Xbox Live Gold because netflix doesn't buffer whole movies and I can't watch them at  512kbps (which is all I can get.
) My connection's latency isn't good enough for online gaming, so netflix was my only reason to have it.
Would have been enough, too, with whole-movie buffering.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467578</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468474</id>
	<title>Get a different ISP</title>
	<author>anti-NAT</author>
	<datestamp>1259683800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google have a youtube cache in Pipe Networks NSWs Point of Presence, so if you have an ISP who's connected to that, and makes sure they have enough bandwidth to it, there'll usually be not buffering (on rare occasions there can be, however that is youtube itself)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google have a youtube cache in Pipe Networks NSWs Point of Presence , so if you have an ISP who 's connected to that , and makes sure they have enough bandwidth to it , there 'll usually be not buffering ( on rare occasions there can be , however that is youtube itself )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google have a youtube cache in Pipe Networks NSWs Point of Presence, so if you have an ISP who's connected to that, and makes sure they have enough bandwidth to it, there'll usually be not buffering (on rare occasions there can be, however that is youtube itself)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467578</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464746</id>
	<title>It's very useful</title>
	<author>jollyreaper</author>
	<datestamp>1259665020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Never been a fan of quickslime. There's many videos that just won't work any other way. It's also the only player I use on pc but I believe there are several other worthy options available.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Never been a fan of quickslime .
There 's many videos that just wo n't work any other way .
It 's also the only player I use on pc but I believe there are several other worthy options available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Never been a fan of quickslime.
There's many videos that just won't work any other way.
It's also the only player I use on pc but I believe there are several other worthy options available.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465444</id>
	<title>Re:Eu Contraire</title>
	<author>xwizbt</author>
	<datestamp>1259667060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>'Au'. And it's 'voila', whilst we're on; I'm guessing you're mostly responsible for that, too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>'Au' .
And it 's 'voila ' , whilst we 're on ; I 'm guessing you 're mostly responsible for that , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'Au'.
And it's 'voila', whilst we're on; I'm guessing you're mostly responsible for that, too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465048</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464970</id>
	<title>Re:OS X is UNIX</title>
	<author>pete-classic</author>
	<datestamp>1259665620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know all the reasons, but the fact that OSX uses a unique graphics system is surely one.  (OSX includes X, but it is not the native system.)</p><p>-Peter</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know all the reasons , but the fact that OSX uses a unique graphics system is surely one .
( OSX includes X , but it is not the native system .
) -Peter</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know all the reasons, but the fact that OSX uses a unique graphics system is surely one.
(OSX includes X, but it is not the native system.
)-Peter</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464828</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465510</id>
	<title>Re:Handbrake</title>
	<author>MikeFM</author>
	<datestamp>1259667240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm willing to pay for VLC/Handbrake to be maintained. Dropping support is dumb before pitching to users to pay to keep someone on the job.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm willing to pay for VLC/Handbrake to be maintained .
Dropping support is dumb before pitching to users to pay to keep someone on the job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm willing to pay for VLC/Handbrake to be maintained.
Dropping support is dumb before pitching to users to pay to keep someone on the job.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464844</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465112</id>
	<title>Re:Moot</title>
	<author>Selfbain</author>
	<datestamp>1259666160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>So... you're saying next year will be the year of Mac?<br> <br>That sounds oddly familiar.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So... you 're saying next year will be the year of Mac ?
That sounds oddly familiar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So... you're saying next year will be the year of Mac?
That sounds oddly familiar.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464724</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466374</id>
	<title>Re:user-friendly?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259670480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's an option somewhere to switch between behaviours. Just check it out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's an option somewhere to switch between behaviours .
Just check it out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's an option somewhere to switch between behaviours.
Just check it out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464846</id>
	<title>Could it be possible that noone cares?</title>
	<author>c0d3g33k</author>
	<datestamp>1259665260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fans of the walled garden may be happy with what they get, while those who are unhappy with that choice may be looking elsewhere for their OS environment, thus VLC for Mac may not be on their radar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fans of the walled garden may be happy with what they get , while those who are unhappy with that choice may be looking elsewhere for their OS environment , thus VLC for Mac may not be on their radar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fans of the walled garden may be happy with what they get, while those who are unhappy with that choice may be looking elsewhere for their OS environment, thus VLC for Mac may not be on their radar.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30476812</id>
	<title>Re:VLC is an amazing, gigantic success on OS X</title>
	<author>psydeshow</author>
	<datestamp>1261079400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, why not? We all paid $34 for QuickTime Pro, some of us multiple freeking times.</p><p>Mac users don't expect to get everything for free. You can call that "having more money than sense" or you can call it "not being a programmer, so willing to pay programmers." Either way, plenty of people would pay for VLC.</p><p>But I'm afraid that if they start taking money for it, they will also have to start obeying the dmca and patent laws, and then it will be just as shitty as QuickTime player, but without the ability to edit video.</p><p>Maybe Google could throw some interns at it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , why not ?
We all paid $ 34 for QuickTime Pro , some of us multiple freeking times.Mac users do n't expect to get everything for free .
You can call that " having more money than sense " or you can call it " not being a programmer , so willing to pay programmers .
" Either way , plenty of people would pay for VLC.But I 'm afraid that if they start taking money for it , they will also have to start obeying the dmca and patent laws , and then it will be just as shitty as QuickTime player , but without the ability to edit video.Maybe Google could throw some interns at it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, why not?
We all paid $34 for QuickTime Pro, some of us multiple freeking times.Mac users don't expect to get everything for free.
You can call that "having more money than sense" or you can call it "not being a programmer, so willing to pay programmers.
" Either way, plenty of people would pay for VLC.But I'm afraid that if they start taking money for it, they will also have to start obeying the dmca and patent laws, and then it will be just as shitty as QuickTime player, but without the ability to edit video.Maybe Google could throw some interns at it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30470960</id>
	<title>Re:OS X needs VLC</title>
	<author>Per Wigren</author>
	<datestamp>1261045140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>MKV is the default container format for Handbrake, one of the most popular DVD-ripping programs around.
It's very common practice to rip DVD:s to MKV with unscaled H.264 video, all audio tracks and all subtitles and put them in a HTPC or other external media player (Popcorn Hour, etc). You'll even get to keep the chapter markings.

Yes, MKV is also the container format of choice for the HD pirate "scene" but that doesn't mean it doesn't also have legitimate uses.</htmltext>
<tokenext>MKV is the default container format for Handbrake , one of the most popular DVD-ripping programs around .
It 's very common practice to rip DVD : s to MKV with unscaled H.264 video , all audio tracks and all subtitles and put them in a HTPC or other external media player ( Popcorn Hour , etc ) .
You 'll even get to keep the chapter markings .
Yes , MKV is also the container format of choice for the HD pirate " scene " but that does n't mean it does n't also have legitimate uses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MKV is the default container format for Handbrake, one of the most popular DVD-ripping programs around.
It's very common practice to rip DVD:s to MKV with unscaled H.264 video, all audio tracks and all subtitles and put them in a HTPC or other external media player (Popcorn Hour, etc).
You'll even get to keep the chapter markings.
Yes, MKV is also the container format of choice for the HD pirate "scene" but that doesn't mean it doesn't also have legitimate uses.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468402</id>
	<title>Re:This would be a great loss</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259683200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>parameterized buffering is of course available in VLC since the first versions, when we still called it Videolan. (I'm one of the early Videolan developers)<br>Other players also allow you to buffer the stream.</p><p>FYI, this feature took about 5min to implement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>parameterized buffering is of course available in VLC since the first versions , when we still called it Videolan .
( I 'm one of the early Videolan developers ) Other players also allow you to buffer the stream.FYI , this feature took about 5min to implement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>parameterized buffering is of course available in VLC since the first versions, when we still called it Videolan.
(I'm one of the early Videolan developers)Other players also allow you to buffer the stream.FYI, this feature took about 5min to implement.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30474184</id>
	<title>Re:This would be a great loss</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261068540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I live in Australia, youtube and many flash videos here are frankly, bloody annoying"</p><p>Youtube is pretty annoying all over the world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I live in Australia , youtube and many flash videos here are frankly , bloody annoying " Youtube is pretty annoying all over the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I live in Australia, youtube and many flash videos here are frankly, bloody annoying"Youtube is pretty annoying all over the world.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465706</id>
	<title>Re:Could it be possible that noone cares?</title>
	<author>poopdeville</author>
	<datestamp>1259667840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nope.  Mac users care.  Mac users did open source.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nope .
Mac users care .
Mac users did open source .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nope.
Mac users care.
Mac users did open source.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466898</id>
	<title>am i right here...?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259673120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>who would want to develop something like a media swiss-army knife for the mac; if you're so up the rear passage of Mr Jobs to buy one of his stupid toys then you won't be into something as anarchic and marvelous as vlc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>who would want to develop something like a media swiss-army knife for the mac ; if you 're so up the rear passage of Mr Jobs to buy one of his stupid toys then you wo n't be into something as anarchic and marvelous as vlc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>who would want to develop something like a media swiss-army knife for the mac; if you're so up the rear passage of Mr Jobs to buy one of his stupid toys then you won't be into something as anarchic and marvelous as vlc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468492</id>
	<title>Re:This would be a great loss</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259683980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; I still don't see enough buffering code and SPECIFICALLY buffering controls for users in any media player.</p><p>er, VLC -&gt; tools -&gt; input &amp; codecs -&gt; caching.</p><p>mplayer -cache  ?</p><p>you haven't looked very hard.</p><p>I use mplayer -cache 16384 for the very reason you describe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; I still do n't see enough buffering code and SPECIFICALLY buffering controls for users in any media player.er , VLC - &gt; tools - &gt; input &amp; codecs - &gt; caching.mplayer -cache ? you have n't looked very hard.I use mplayer -cache 16384 for the very reason you describe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; I still don't see enough buffering code and SPECIFICALLY buffering controls for users in any media player.er, VLC -&gt; tools -&gt; input &amp; codecs -&gt; caching.mplayer -cache  ?you haven't looked very hard.I use mplayer -cache 16384 for the very reason you describe.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464936</id>
	<title>sad so sad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259665560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>VLC is by far the best versatile cross platform VIDEO player available to mankind.  Very sad if MAC OSX VLC development is discontinued.</htmltext>
<tokenext>VLC is by far the best versatile cross platform VIDEO player available to mankind .
Very sad if MAC OSX VLC development is discontinued .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>VLC is by far the best versatile cross platform VIDEO player available to mankind.
Very sad if MAC OSX VLC development is discontinued.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467288</id>
	<title>Re:Handbrake</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1259675580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It used to. The newer Handbrake versions, including the one that just came out recently, just fail to work with copy-protected DVDs, which sucks (but I can understand why they distribute it that way.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It used to .
The newer Handbrake versions , including the one that just came out recently , just fail to work with copy-protected DVDs , which sucks ( but I can understand why they distribute it that way .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It used to.
The newer Handbrake versions, including the one that just came out recently, just fail to work with copy-protected DVDs, which sucks (but I can understand why they distribute it that way.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465200</id>
	<title>Re:Oh fuck no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259666400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Make a burn folder. Drop files in burn folder. Put in blank [CD|DVD]. Hit Burn.</p><p>I've had my mac since 2006 and it has always had the ability to burn discs built in.</p><p>I'm sorry the world has moved on from storing music in [artist]\_[album]-[track#]-[trackname].mp3 but metadata is a wee bit more handy and convenient for sorting music collections and playlists.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Make a burn folder .
Drop files in burn folder .
Put in blank [ CD | DVD ] .
Hit Burn.I 've had my mac since 2006 and it has always had the ability to burn discs built in.I 'm sorry the world has moved on from storing music in [ artist ] \ _ [ album ] - [ track # ] - [ trackname ] .mp3 but metadata is a wee bit more handy and convenient for sorting music collections and playlists .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make a burn folder.
Drop files in burn folder.
Put in blank [CD|DVD].
Hit Burn.I've had my mac since 2006 and it has always had the ability to burn discs built in.I'm sorry the world has moved on from storing music in [artist]\_[album]-[track#]-[trackname].mp3 but metadata is a wee bit more handy and convenient for sorting music collections and playlists.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30469880</id>
	<title>Re:This would be a great loss</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259695440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><tt>mplayer -cache 100mb</tt></p><p>It's not quite that simple, but same idea.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>mplayer -cache 100mbIt 's not quite that simple , but same idea .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mplayer -cache 100mbIt's not quite that simple, but same idea.
:-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464922</id>
	<title>Not disturbing</title>
	<author>iamacat</author>
	<datestamp>1259665500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If enough people are missing a feature in 1.1.0 release, someone will take the source and add it. As for any product and platform, development is a matter of supply and demand. It could be that physical media like DVDs is simply on the way out and most Mac users are happy with Quicktime player to watch H.264 torrents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If enough people are missing a feature in 1.1.0 release , someone will take the source and add it .
As for any product and platform , development is a matter of supply and demand .
It could be that physical media like DVDs is simply on the way out and most Mac users are happy with Quicktime player to watch H.264 torrents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If enough people are missing a feature in 1.1.0 release, someone will take the source and add it.
As for any product and platform, development is a matter of supply and demand.
It could be that physical media like DVDs is simply on the way out and most Mac users are happy with Quicktime player to watch H.264 torrents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30477460</id>
	<title>Re:AbiWord faces the same issue</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261081680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I again posted this news, and asked if somebody could kindly compile it and send me a link to the resulting binary. Since then...nothing. Hence I have come to a conclusion about OSX users...well, I will let you guess what it is.</p></div><p>Is it that the only OS X users who know about and are interested in the project feel comfortable compiling it themselves?</p><p>I, for one, had never heard of LiVES until your post -- and while it looks interesting, probably doesn't do anything I'd want to do that I can't already do with the software bundled with my computer.  This is probably why you aren't getting much feedback from OS X.</p><p>This is also probably why VLC isn't getting as much dev support -- most devs that use OS X use it because they want a piece of technology that "just works" without having to maintain yet more code on their own time.</p><p>As far as VLC for OS X goes, it's my guess that they need someone to do the GUI work, as the back end should be just as easy to compile as LiVES appears to be now.  This means that all the satellite projects can still use the VLC libraries/code even if the Cocoa binary stops being maintained by the core team.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I again posted this news , and asked if somebody could kindly compile it and send me a link to the resulting binary .
Since then...nothing .
Hence I have come to a conclusion about OSX users...well , I will let you guess what it is.Is it that the only OS X users who know about and are interested in the project feel comfortable compiling it themselves ? I , for one , had never heard of LiVES until your post -- and while it looks interesting , probably does n't do anything I 'd want to do that I ca n't already do with the software bundled with my computer .
This is probably why you are n't getting much feedback from OS X.This is also probably why VLC is n't getting as much dev support -- most devs that use OS X use it because they want a piece of technology that " just works " without having to maintain yet more code on their own time.As far as VLC for OS X goes , it 's my guess that they need someone to do the GUI work , as the back end should be just as easy to compile as LiVES appears to be now .
This means that all the satellite projects can still use the VLC libraries/code even if the Cocoa binary stops being maintained by the core team .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I again posted this news, and asked if somebody could kindly compile it and send me a link to the resulting binary.
Since then...nothing.
Hence I have come to a conclusion about OSX users...well, I will let you guess what it is.Is it that the only OS X users who know about and are interested in the project feel comfortable compiling it themselves?I, for one, had never heard of LiVES until your post -- and while it looks interesting, probably doesn't do anything I'd want to do that I can't already do with the software bundled with my computer.
This is probably why you aren't getting much feedback from OS X.This is also probably why VLC isn't getting as much dev support -- most devs that use OS X use it because they want a piece of technology that "just works" without having to maintain yet more code on their own time.As far as VLC for OS X goes, it's my guess that they need someone to do the GUI work, as the back end should be just as easy to compile as LiVES appears to be now.
This means that all the satellite projects can still use the VLC libraries/code even if the Cocoa binary stops being maintained by the core team.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30470346</id>
	<title>Re:This would be a great loss</title>
	<author>BikeHelmet</author>
	<datestamp>1261081680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look up Media Player Classic Home Cinema.</p><p>If you have<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.net 3.5 installed on XP, something called EVR is available. It's some sort of advanced rendering thingy. Faster than VMR9/null/etc., but with more accurate colour reproduction and GPU shaders.</p><p>You can set the number of frames buffered up to 60. I have tested it on H.264 and recorded FRAPS video. H.264 uses almost 50MB during playback, and fullscreen FRAPS used about 500-600MB. Boatloads of memory, but no dropped frames ever.</p><p>I realize what you actually want is the option to raise the disk buffer. If I could tell MPC to assume a 32MB buffer (raising the mem usage about 30MB for every video) I would, because it'd make those huge multi-gigabyte FRAPS vids start quicker. Unfortunately, I can't - I'm stuck with buffering 60 frames before beginning playback.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look up Media Player Classic Home Cinema.If you have .net 3.5 installed on XP , something called EVR is available .
It 's some sort of advanced rendering thingy .
Faster than VMR9/null/etc. , but with more accurate colour reproduction and GPU shaders.You can set the number of frames buffered up to 60 .
I have tested it on H.264 and recorded FRAPS video .
H.264 uses almost 50MB during playback , and fullscreen FRAPS used about 500-600MB .
Boatloads of memory , but no dropped frames ever.I realize what you actually want is the option to raise the disk buffer .
If I could tell MPC to assume a 32MB buffer ( raising the mem usage about 30MB for every video ) I would , because it 'd make those huge multi-gigabyte FRAPS vids start quicker .
Unfortunately , I ca n't - I 'm stuck with buffering 60 frames before beginning playback .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look up Media Player Classic Home Cinema.If you have .net 3.5 installed on XP, something called EVR is available.
It's some sort of advanced rendering thingy.
Faster than VMR9/null/etc., but with more accurate colour reproduction and GPU shaders.You can set the number of frames buffered up to 60.
I have tested it on H.264 and recorded FRAPS video.
H.264 uses almost 50MB during playback, and fullscreen FRAPS used about 500-600MB.
Boatloads of memory, but no dropped frames ever.I realize what you actually want is the option to raise the disk buffer.
If I could tell MPC to assume a 32MB buffer (raising the mem usage about 30MB for every video) I would, because it'd make those huge multi-gigabyte FRAPS vids start quicker.
Unfortunately, I can't - I'm stuck with buffering 60 frames before beginning playback.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30471720</id>
	<title>Re:VLC is an amazing, gigantic success on OS X</title>
	<author>Slashcrap</author>
	<datestamp>1261052280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Really interesting... I suspect some bad treatment to Mac users/Developers going on.</p></div><p>It's also possible that Mac developers are self centred faggots too busy developing the next piece of shitty shareware or iPhone based fart generator to even consider contributing to an open source project. Also most Mac users dislike open source software because it doesn't look right and they'd be embarrassed to be seen using it in Starbucks.</p><p>Hopefully VLC for the Mac dies out and you'll all be forced to use iTunes/Quicktime. That would be pretty sweet IMO, because then you'd have to pretend that they are great pieces of software even though you know they are not. Will hopefully lead to some psychotic breakdowns and maybe even someone going postal in an Apple store.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Really interesting... I suspect some bad treatment to Mac users/Developers going on.It 's also possible that Mac developers are self centred faggots too busy developing the next piece of shitty shareware or iPhone based fart generator to even consider contributing to an open source project .
Also most Mac users dislike open source software because it does n't look right and they 'd be embarrassed to be seen using it in Starbucks.Hopefully VLC for the Mac dies out and you 'll all be forced to use iTunes/Quicktime .
That would be pretty sweet IMO , because then you 'd have to pretend that they are great pieces of software even though you know they are not .
Will hopefully lead to some psychotic breakdowns and maybe even someone going postal in an Apple store .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really interesting... I suspect some bad treatment to Mac users/Developers going on.It's also possible that Mac developers are self centred faggots too busy developing the next piece of shitty shareware or iPhone based fart generator to even consider contributing to an open source project.
Also most Mac users dislike open source software because it doesn't look right and they'd be embarrassed to be seen using it in Starbucks.Hopefully VLC for the Mac dies out and you'll all be forced to use iTunes/Quicktime.
That would be pretty sweet IMO, because then you'd have to pretend that they are great pieces of software even though you know they are not.
Will hopefully lead to some psychotic breakdowns and maybe even someone going postal in an Apple store.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467430</id>
	<title>Not from what I've seen - iPhone more likely</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1259676420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Because "true Apple lovers" are mostly either multimedia designers, artists, writers or just ordinary users with more money than sense, and not down-in-the-trenches C/C++ developers? </i></p><p>I guess you must not be a "down-in-the-trenches" developer either.  Or else your head is so far down in the "trenches" you have not been to any kind of technical conference, where a large number of people have mac laptops (including many Windows technical conferences).</p><p>So where have all of the Mac developers gone?  I wonder what massive upswing in calls for Mac capable developers might have happened in the last few years that might have drawn people off the project?</p><p>Basically, to my mind you need look no further than the iPhone to figure out what has taken the wind out of many small projects in regards to Mac development.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because " true Apple lovers " are mostly either multimedia designers , artists , writers or just ordinary users with more money than sense , and not down-in-the-trenches C/C + + developers ?
I guess you must not be a " down-in-the-trenches " developer either .
Or else your head is so far down in the " trenches " you have not been to any kind of technical conference , where a large number of people have mac laptops ( including many Windows technical conferences ) .So where have all of the Mac developers gone ?
I wonder what massive upswing in calls for Mac capable developers might have happened in the last few years that might have drawn people off the project ? Basically , to my mind you need look no further than the iPhone to figure out what has taken the wind out of many small projects in regards to Mac development .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because "true Apple lovers" are mostly either multimedia designers, artists, writers or just ordinary users with more money than sense, and not down-in-the-trenches C/C++ developers?
I guess you must not be a "down-in-the-trenches" developer either.
Or else your head is so far down in the "trenches" you have not been to any kind of technical conference, where a large number of people have mac laptops (including many Windows technical conferences).So where have all of the Mac developers gone?
I wonder what massive upswing in calls for Mac capable developers might have happened in the last few years that might have drawn people off the project?Basically, to my mind you need look no further than the iPhone to figure out what has taken the wind out of many small projects in regards to Mac development.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466562</id>
	<title>mplayer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259671440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>mplayer builds just fine on osx and is in macports. renders natively and is excellent, always been my favorite player over VLC.... http://mplayerosx.sttz.ch/ is kept up to date and has a nice gui for osx, I installed it for my girlfriend and was so impressed with it that I even occasionally use it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>mplayer builds just fine on osx and is in macports .
renders natively and is excellent , always been my favorite player over VLC.... http : //mplayerosx.sttz.ch/ is kept up to date and has a nice gui for osx , I installed it for my girlfriend and was so impressed with it that I even occasionally use it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mplayer builds just fine on osx and is in macports.
renders natively and is excellent, always been my favorite player over VLC.... http://mplayerosx.sttz.ch/ is kept up to date and has a nice gui for osx, I installed it for my girlfriend and was so impressed with it that I even occasionally use it!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466720</id>
	<title>Lacking Apple Developer Outreach?</title>
	<author>Apple Acolyte</author>
	<datestamp>1259672220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It seems like better developer outreach from Apple would help here, but I think the lack of such cooperation is somewhat symptomatic of Apple's movement away from the Mac as its central business to consumer electronics (iPhone and iPod). Apple just does not care as much about the Mac in the iPhone era, which is an unfortunate market reality. They really need to take a page from the Microsoft monkey - Developers, developers, developers!!!<br><br>As a previous poster noted, it will be interesting to see if Apple can drag major developers on to the Cocoa bandwagon as the sole solution for 64-bit API support. It really seems like Apple pulled the rug out from under developers when it suddenly cancelled Carbon 64-bit. The Carbon APIs were originally produced because the major developers weren't willing to move to Cocoa. Apple may feel that it's in such a strong position that it can now force the Cocoa switch, but I don't think that in terms of developer appeal of Cocoa much has changed between OS X's launch and now. Sure OS X is established, and making Cocoa the only game in town for 64-bitness may help its adoption to some degree, but other developers clearly won't see it worth the cost.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems like better developer outreach from Apple would help here , but I think the lack of such cooperation is somewhat symptomatic of Apple 's movement away from the Mac as its central business to consumer electronics ( iPhone and iPod ) .
Apple just does not care as much about the Mac in the iPhone era , which is an unfortunate market reality .
They really need to take a page from the Microsoft monkey - Developers , developers , developers ! !
! As a previous poster noted , it will be interesting to see if Apple can drag major developers on to the Cocoa bandwagon as the sole solution for 64-bit API support .
It really seems like Apple pulled the rug out from under developers when it suddenly cancelled Carbon 64-bit .
The Carbon APIs were originally produced because the major developers were n't willing to move to Cocoa .
Apple may feel that it 's in such a strong position that it can now force the Cocoa switch , but I do n't think that in terms of developer appeal of Cocoa much has changed between OS X 's launch and now .
Sure OS X is established , and making Cocoa the only game in town for 64-bitness may help its adoption to some degree , but other developers clearly wo n't see it worth the cost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems like better developer outreach from Apple would help here, but I think the lack of such cooperation is somewhat symptomatic of Apple's movement away from the Mac as its central business to consumer electronics (iPhone and iPod).
Apple just does not care as much about the Mac in the iPhone era, which is an unfortunate market reality.
They really need to take a page from the Microsoft monkey - Developers, developers, developers!!
!As a previous poster noted, it will be interesting to see if Apple can drag major developers on to the Cocoa bandwagon as the sole solution for 64-bit API support.
It really seems like Apple pulled the rug out from under developers when it suddenly cancelled Carbon 64-bit.
The Carbon APIs were originally produced because the major developers weren't willing to move to Cocoa.
Apple may feel that it's in such a strong position that it can now force the Cocoa switch, but I don't think that in terms of developer appeal of Cocoa much has changed between OS X's launch and now.
Sure OS X is established, and making Cocoa the only game in town for 64-bitness may help its adoption to some degree, but other developers clearly won't see it worth the cost.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468604</id>
	<title>Re:OS X needs VLC</title>
	<author>jasonwc</author>
	<datestamp>1259685060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"So, basically, you're mad that it won't play your pirated movies out of the box? I've got karma to burn, so time to feed the trolls."</p><p>No, I'm mad that it chooses to use Quicktime as the default program when it is incapable of playing something as simple as an AVI file with Xvid/MP3 content. Windows 7 and Ubuntu 8.10/9.10 do so out of the box, so I don't think I"m asking too much. If Quicktime doesn't work out of the box, don't make it DEFAULT.</p><p>In fact, I rarely every use the default. I always tinker. On Windows 7 x64, I use MPC-HC with the latest ffdshow build for H.264 as well as lanczos to upscale DVDs and 720p video. I also use MPC-HC's hardware acceleration on my Intel GMA chip on my laptop. So, it's not like I even care about things working out of the box.</p><p>BUT I do expect to easily be able to set the default application used to open a given filetype. I changed the file assocation for MKV with no issue; but it just wouldn't work with AVI.</p><p>And why does it matter whether I was playing pirated or legal video content? Is it OK for Quicktime not to play my plain vanilla AVIs because of their source?</p><p>Anyway, how do you know the source? For all you know, I encode my own high definition videos from Blu-Ray and DVD sources. In fact, I have done so. Maybe you assumed I didn't because you misunderstood pretty much all of my comments and thought I was an ignorant dumbass that.</p><p>Look, I don't use OS X. I was just helping setup a roommate's computer. I said it was an aside. My only point was that in Windows, what I wanted to accomplish would have been easy. Same deal with Ubuntu.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" So , basically , you 're mad that it wo n't play your pirated movies out of the box ?
I 've got karma to burn , so time to feed the trolls .
" No , I 'm mad that it chooses to use Quicktime as the default program when it is incapable of playing something as simple as an AVI file with Xvid/MP3 content .
Windows 7 and Ubuntu 8.10/9.10 do so out of the box , so I do n't think I " m asking too much .
If Quicktime does n't work out of the box , do n't make it DEFAULT.In fact , I rarely every use the default .
I always tinker .
On Windows 7 x64 , I use MPC-HC with the latest ffdshow build for H.264 as well as lanczos to upscale DVDs and 720p video .
I also use MPC-HC 's hardware acceleration on my Intel GMA chip on my laptop .
So , it 's not like I even care about things working out of the box.BUT I do expect to easily be able to set the default application used to open a given filetype .
I changed the file assocation for MKV with no issue ; but it just would n't work with AVI.And why does it matter whether I was playing pirated or legal video content ?
Is it OK for Quicktime not to play my plain vanilla AVIs because of their source ? Anyway , how do you know the source ?
For all you know , I encode my own high definition videos from Blu-Ray and DVD sources .
In fact , I have done so .
Maybe you assumed I did n't because you misunderstood pretty much all of my comments and thought I was an ignorant dumbass that.Look , I do n't use OS X. I was just helping setup a roommate 's computer .
I said it was an aside .
My only point was that in Windows , what I wanted to accomplish would have been easy .
Same deal with Ubuntu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"So, basically, you're mad that it won't play your pirated movies out of the box?
I've got karma to burn, so time to feed the trolls.
"No, I'm mad that it chooses to use Quicktime as the default program when it is incapable of playing something as simple as an AVI file with Xvid/MP3 content.
Windows 7 and Ubuntu 8.10/9.10 do so out of the box, so I don't think I"m asking too much.
If Quicktime doesn't work out of the box, don't make it DEFAULT.In fact, I rarely every use the default.
I always tinker.
On Windows 7 x64, I use MPC-HC with the latest ffdshow build for H.264 as well as lanczos to upscale DVDs and 720p video.
I also use MPC-HC's hardware acceleration on my Intel GMA chip on my laptop.
So, it's not like I even care about things working out of the box.BUT I do expect to easily be able to set the default application used to open a given filetype.
I changed the file assocation for MKV with no issue; but it just wouldn't work with AVI.And why does it matter whether I was playing pirated or legal video content?
Is it OK for Quicktime not to play my plain vanilla AVIs because of their source?Anyway, how do you know the source?
For all you know, I encode my own high definition videos from Blu-Ray and DVD sources.
In fact, I have done so.
Maybe you assumed I didn't because you misunderstood pretty much all of my comments and thought I was an ignorant dumbass that.Look, I don't use OS X. I was just helping setup a roommate's computer.
I said it was an aside.
My only point was that in Windows, what I wanted to accomplish would have been easy.
Same deal with Ubuntu.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30474872</id>
	<title>Re:AbiWord faces the same issue</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261071600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>My guess would be lazy fat gay hippies with too much money. Am I close or were you thinking of something else?</htmltext>
<tokenext>My guess would be lazy fat gay hippies with too much money .
Am I close or were you thinking of something else ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My guess would be lazy fat gay hippies with too much money.
Am I close or were you thinking of something else?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466074</id>
	<title>Re:OS X needs VLC</title>
	<author>stevelup</author>
	<datestamp>1259669100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I couldn't get OS X to use VLC by default. Selecting "open with" VLC ALWAYS only works for that single file, not the file type, despite it saying so.</p> </div><p>To set a default application for a file type in OS X, you do the following:-</p><p>Right click on any MKV file and choose 'Get Info'<br>In the 'Open With' section, choose VLC<br>Click the 'Change All...' button underneath.</p><p>All MKV files will now open by default in VLC</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I could n't get OS X to use VLC by default .
Selecting " open with " VLC ALWAYS only works for that single file , not the file type , despite it saying so .
To set a default application for a file type in OS X , you do the following : -Right click on any MKV file and choose 'Get Info'In the 'Open With ' section , choose VLCClick the 'Change All... ' button underneath.All MKV files will now open by default in VLC</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I couldn't get OS X to use VLC by default.
Selecting "open with" VLC ALWAYS only works for that single file, not the file type, despite it saying so.
To set a default application for a file type in OS X, you do the following:-Right click on any MKV file and choose 'Get Info'In the 'Open With' section, choose VLCClick the 'Change All...' button underneath.All MKV files will now open by default in VLC
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468364</id>
	<title>Re:OS X needs VLC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259682960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The only place that I've seen MKV as a popular format is with Azurus/Vuze.  In fact, I've never seen it used outside of Vuze.  Occasionally you'll see it in a torrent, but they are mostly DivX/Avi.</p></div><p>It should probably be noted that almost all HD rips of movies/TV shows online are in x264 format, wrapped in MKV. Just go onto any Usenet search engine and search for "720p". I generally don't see them as being especially popular on public torrent sites, but then considering a lot of the crap on them, I get the feeling most users of such sites don't care for quality so much.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only place that I 've seen MKV as a popular format is with Azurus/Vuze .
In fact , I 've never seen it used outside of Vuze .
Occasionally you 'll see it in a torrent , but they are mostly DivX/Avi.It should probably be noted that almost all HD rips of movies/TV shows online are in x264 format , wrapped in MKV .
Just go onto any Usenet search engine and search for " 720p " .
I generally do n't see them as being especially popular on public torrent sites , but then considering a lot of the crap on them , I get the feeling most users of such sites do n't care for quality so much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only place that I've seen MKV as a popular format is with Azurus/Vuze.
In fact, I've never seen it used outside of Vuze.
Occasionally you'll see it in a torrent, but they are mostly DivX/Avi.It should probably be noted that almost all HD rips of movies/TV shows online are in x264 format, wrapped in MKV.
Just go onto any Usenet search engine and search for "720p".
I generally don't see them as being especially popular on public torrent sites, but then considering a lot of the crap on them, I get the feeling most users of such sites don't care for quality so much.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466250</id>
	<title>almost everything you've posted is wrong</title>
	<author>SuperBanana</author>
	<datestamp>1259669880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With Perian installed (have you been living in a cave?) Quicktime handles every AVI, MPG, FLV, and MKV file I've thrown at it in years.  Quicktime Player in Snow Leopard doesn't think it can open MKV files, but that's why you don't remove Quicktime Player 7 (there's an option for this in the upgrade, because QP7 does things the new QP can't.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With Perian installed ( have you been living in a cave ?
) Quicktime handles every AVI , MPG , FLV , and MKV file I 've thrown at it in years .
Quicktime Player in Snow Leopard does n't think it can open MKV files , but that 's why you do n't remove Quicktime Player 7 ( there 's an option for this in the upgrade , because QP7 does things the new QP ca n't .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With Perian installed (have you been living in a cave?
) Quicktime handles every AVI, MPG, FLV, and MKV file I've thrown at it in years.
Quicktime Player in Snow Leopard doesn't think it can open MKV files, but that's why you don't remove Quicktime Player 7 (there's an option for this in the upgrade, because QP7 does things the new QP can't.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468308</id>
	<title>It takes months to download an HD movie</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1259682420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>By the time HD-DVD or Blu-Ray won the format wars, it would be too late, we'd see everything delivered via a digital stream.</p></div><p>Blu-ray Disc has defeated HD DVD, but plenty of places still have either broadband capped at 5 GB/mo or (gasp) dial-up.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>By the time HD-DVD or Blu-Ray won the format wars , it would be too late , we 'd see everything delivered via a digital stream.Blu-ray Disc has defeated HD DVD , but plenty of places still have either broadband capped at 5 GB/mo or ( gasp ) dial-up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By the time HD-DVD or Blu-Ray won the format wars, it would be too late, we'd see everything delivered via a digital stream.Blu-ray Disc has defeated HD DVD, but plenty of places still have either broadband capped at 5 GB/mo or (gasp) dial-up.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465242</id>
	<title>Re:Handbrake</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259666520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Handbrake doesn't have to use VLC.  I think it was just an easy way to get access to the FFMPEG libraries, to require that VLC be installed.  Anyway, I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard for them to find another way to deal with it.
</p><p>And I may be wrong, but I think using VLC is a relatively new thing.  I don't remember exactly, but back when Handbrake was OSX-only, I think it had the option of using Quicktime to encode movies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Handbrake does n't have to use VLC .
I think it was just an easy way to get access to the FFMPEG libraries , to require that VLC be installed .
Anyway , I 'm sure it would n't be too hard for them to find another way to deal with it .
And I may be wrong , but I think using VLC is a relatively new thing .
I do n't remember exactly , but back when Handbrake was OSX-only , I think it had the option of using Quicktime to encode movies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Handbrake doesn't have to use VLC.
I think it was just an easy way to get access to the FFMPEG libraries, to require that VLC be installed.
Anyway, I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard for them to find another way to deal with it.
And I may be wrong, but I think using VLC is a relatively new thing.
I don't remember exactly, but back when Handbrake was OSX-only, I think it had the option of using Quicktime to encode movies.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30471696</id>
	<title>Re:user-friendly?</title>
	<author>ivano</author>
	<datestamp>1261052040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What about this: drag a collection of files to the playlist in VLC and it starts playing the list from the last one?!?!? Personally this is why I hate open-source projects; this would never have got through a team with dedicated testers<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)

But to throw petrol on the fire I still have old PPC Macs and since 0.7.x releases VLC has been very, very picky in playing files without stuttering. Something as simple as iTunes checking for new podcasts will make VLC just stop dead. Mplayer on the other hand, though less sophisticated, won't.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about this : drag a collection of files to the playlist in VLC and it starts playing the list from the last one ? ! ? ! ?
Personally this is why I hate open-source projects ; this would never have got through a team with dedicated testers : ) But to throw petrol on the fire I still have old PPC Macs and since 0.7.x releases VLC has been very , very picky in playing files without stuttering .
Something as simple as iTunes checking for new podcasts will make VLC just stop dead .
Mplayer on the other hand , though less sophisticated , wo n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about this: drag a collection of files to the playlist in VLC and it starts playing the list from the last one?!?!?
Personally this is why I hate open-source projects; this would never have got through a team with dedicated testers :)

But to throw petrol on the fire I still have old PPC Macs and since 0.7.x releases VLC has been very, very picky in playing files without stuttering.
Something as simple as iTunes checking for new podcasts will make VLC just stop dead.
Mplayer on the other hand, though less sophisticated, won't.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30533204</id>
	<title>Re:Eu Contraire</title>
	<author>mfnickster</author>
	<datestamp>1261511820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Case in point: today I ripped a DVD I made a few months ago. I opened one of the VOB files from the HDD in VLC to do a frame grab.</p><p>While skipping through the file by clicking in the timeline/playhead indicator, the picture froze several times, tore several times, and audio got out of sync with the video. Finally, it just froze the video frame and the playhead skipped ahead by increments to the end, without any audio or video playback. I had to quit the player to regain any playback.</p><p>Like I said, utter crap.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Case in point : today I ripped a DVD I made a few months ago .
I opened one of the VOB files from the HDD in VLC to do a frame grab.While skipping through the file by clicking in the timeline/playhead indicator , the picture froze several times , tore several times , and audio got out of sync with the video .
Finally , it just froze the video frame and the playhead skipped ahead by increments to the end , without any audio or video playback .
I had to quit the player to regain any playback.Like I said , utter crap .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Case in point: today I ripped a DVD I made a few months ago.
I opened one of the VOB files from the HDD in VLC to do a frame grab.While skipping through the file by clicking in the timeline/playhead indicator, the picture froze several times, tore several times, and audio got out of sync with the video.
Finally, it just froze the video frame and the playhead skipped ahead by increments to the end, without any audio or video playback.
I had to quit the player to regain any playback.Like I said, utter crap.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465344</id>
	<title>Re:user-friendly?</title>
	<author>ickleberry</author>
	<datestamp>1259666760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Strange. on Linux it opens up a new instance every time. Of course the correct behaviour would be just to have an 'enqueue' option in the context menu for that file which you can then set as the default option if you desire</htmltext>
<tokenext>Strange .
on Linux it opens up a new instance every time .
Of course the correct behaviour would be just to have an 'enqueue ' option in the context menu for that file which you can then set as the default option if you desire</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Strange.
on Linux it opens up a new instance every time.
Of course the correct behaviour would be just to have an 'enqueue' option in the context menu for that file which you can then set as the default option if you desire</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465926</id>
	<title>Re:Could it be possible that noone cares?</title>
	<author>devjj</author>
	<datestamp>1259668680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Silly.  Losing VLC would suck, but I can't imagine anyone leaving the platform because VLC wasn't available.  Sure, VLC is your go-to for a lot of stuff, but it doesn't seem like the sort of thing a lot of non-Slashdot-reading Mac users have installed.  Most Mac users just use QuickTime.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Silly .
Losing VLC would suck , but I ca n't imagine anyone leaving the platform because VLC was n't available .
Sure , VLC is your go-to for a lot of stuff , but it does n't seem like the sort of thing a lot of non-Slashdot-reading Mac users have installed .
Most Mac users just use QuickTime .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Silly.
Losing VLC would suck, but I can't imagine anyone leaving the platform because VLC wasn't available.
Sure, VLC is your go-to for a lot of stuff, but it doesn't seem like the sort of thing a lot of non-Slashdot-reading Mac users have installed.
Most Mac users just use QuickTime.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465194</id>
	<title>Re:Handbrake</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259666400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Handbrake uses only the VLC library.<br>According to TFA, the currently difficulty faced by the VLC developers is in finding someone to support the OS X-specific code, meaning primarily the user interface and display code.<br>Given that VLC development continues for *NIX, it shouldn't be that difficult for someone (possibly from the Handbrake team) to maintain the OS X version of the VLC library as a relatively straightforward recompile.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Handbrake uses only the VLC library.According to TFA , the currently difficulty faced by the VLC developers is in finding someone to support the OS X-specific code , meaning primarily the user interface and display code.Given that VLC development continues for * NIX , it should n't be that difficult for someone ( possibly from the Handbrake team ) to maintain the OS X version of the VLC library as a relatively straightforward recompile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Handbrake uses only the VLC library.According to TFA, the currently difficulty faced by the VLC developers is in finding someone to support the OS X-specific code, meaning primarily the user interface and display code.Given that VLC development continues for *NIX, it shouldn't be that difficult for someone (possibly from the Handbrake team) to maintain the OS X version of the VLC library as a relatively straightforward recompile.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468160</id>
	<title>Re:Handbrake</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259681040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, VLC is only required to decode protected DVDs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , VLC is only required to decode protected DVDs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, VLC is only required to decode protected DVDs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464732</id>
	<title>f/p</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259664960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>use a real os bitches and this would not be an issue</htmltext>
<tokenext>use a real os bitches and this would not be an issue</tokentext>
<sentencetext>use a real os bitches and this would not be an issue</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468128</id>
	<title>Re:OS X needs VLC</title>
	<author>djrogers</author>
	<datestamp>1259680740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perian solves all of the quicktime problems you list above, and as for the default media player, that's just a user education issue - not an OS fault.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perian solves all of the quicktime problems you list above , and as for the default media player , that 's just a user education issue - not an OS fault .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perian solves all of the quicktime problems you list above, and as for the default media player, that's just a user education issue - not an OS fault.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465430</id>
	<title>Re:Let it die</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1259667000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I seriously don't know what you're talking about.  I use VLC all the time, and find it impressive how wide a variety of formats it will play without any problems.  It plays damned near everything and never crashes.  The UI might not be completely Mac-like, but it's not as horrible as some ports.
</p><p>Overall, I'll be unhappy if VLC development for OSX stops.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I seriously do n't know what you 're talking about .
I use VLC all the time , and find it impressive how wide a variety of formats it will play without any problems .
It plays damned near everything and never crashes .
The UI might not be completely Mac-like , but it 's not as horrible as some ports .
Overall , I 'll be unhappy if VLC development for OSX stops .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I seriously don't know what you're talking about.
I use VLC all the time, and find it impressive how wide a variety of formats it will play without any problems.
It plays damned near everything and never crashes.
The UI might not be completely Mac-like, but it's not as horrible as some ports.
Overall, I'll be unhappy if VLC development for OSX stops.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466036</id>
	<title>Re:Handbrake</title>
	<author>Low Ranked Craig</author>
	<datestamp>1259668980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Handbreak hasn't always relied on VLC.  I'm sure they will come up with a solution is VLC dies.  I just installed the nightly 64-bit build of VLC and it seems to work fine BTW.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Handbreak has n't always relied on VLC .
I 'm sure they will come up with a solution is VLC dies .
I just installed the nightly 64-bit build of VLC and it seems to work fine BTW .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Handbreak hasn't always relied on VLC.
I'm sure they will come up with a solution is VLC dies.
I just installed the nightly 64-bit build of VLC and it seems to work fine BTW.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466636</id>
	<title>Honestly, Mac sucks for open source</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259671800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My personal opinion, as a longtime programmer of many languages, is that it's just too much of a pain in the ass to write anything for the Apple OS.

Most of it will need to be done in Objective-C (which is a horribly strange and awkward language) or it will need to somehow be compiled from a simpler language to run under OSX. It doesn't surprise me in the least that even a huge open source project like VLC is dropping OSX support. With any luck, every company with common sense will follow, and Apple will be back where it belongs crying "monopoly" and begging money off slightly more competent computer companies like Microsoft or Sun. If you're going to charge an extra $1000 for your hardware, it should be worth that extra value. If you're going to lock your system down so tight everything requires company approval, good luck in the open source world.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My personal opinion , as a longtime programmer of many languages , is that it 's just too much of a pain in the ass to write anything for the Apple OS .
Most of it will need to be done in Objective-C ( which is a horribly strange and awkward language ) or it will need to somehow be compiled from a simpler language to run under OSX .
It does n't surprise me in the least that even a huge open source project like VLC is dropping OSX support .
With any luck , every company with common sense will follow , and Apple will be back where it belongs crying " monopoly " and begging money off slightly more competent computer companies like Microsoft or Sun .
If you 're going to charge an extra $ 1000 for your hardware , it should be worth that extra value .
If you 're going to lock your system down so tight everything requires company approval , good luck in the open source world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My personal opinion, as a longtime programmer of many languages, is that it's just too much of a pain in the ass to write anything for the Apple OS.
Most of it will need to be done in Objective-C (which is a horribly strange and awkward language) or it will need to somehow be compiled from a simpler language to run under OSX.
It doesn't surprise me in the least that even a huge open source project like VLC is dropping OSX support.
With any luck, every company with common sense will follow, and Apple will be back where it belongs crying "monopoly" and begging money off slightly more competent computer companies like Microsoft or Sun.
If you're going to charge an extra $1000 for your hardware, it should be worth that extra value.
If you're going to lock your system down so tight everything requires company approval, good luck in the open source world.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468392</id>
	<title>Re:VLC is an amazing, gigantic success on OS X</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1259683080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps you didn't mean to be offensive but trust me, this "mac users like expensive software with apple logo" like things doesn't help anyone.</p><p>"Mac users" you see have chosen a Mach/BSD/NeXTStep schizophrenically hybrid OS over an OS used by 90\% of population. If you remove "Apple" friendly logo and UI, OS X is exactly that.  So, if something is good, they use it. In fact, they keep using it. Macs without VLC is a rare thing...</p><p>The article doesn't speak about lack of funding or users not already donating. The article and the signs lately shows a mysterious lack of Mac developers/packagers for some reason. It is really mysterious if you ask me and no, Mac users doesn't give 40 dollars to a media player no matter how great it can be. Some German company learned it hard way and they still keep ignoring that lesson.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps you did n't mean to be offensive but trust me , this " mac users like expensive software with apple logo " like things does n't help anyone .
" Mac users " you see have chosen a Mach/BSD/NeXTStep schizophrenically hybrid OS over an OS used by 90 \ % of population .
If you remove " Apple " friendly logo and UI , OS X is exactly that .
So , if something is good , they use it .
In fact , they keep using it .
Macs without VLC is a rare thing...The article does n't speak about lack of funding or users not already donating .
The article and the signs lately shows a mysterious lack of Mac developers/packagers for some reason .
It is really mysterious if you ask me and no , Mac users does n't give 40 dollars to a media player no matter how great it can be .
Some German company learned it hard way and they still keep ignoring that lesson .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps you didn't mean to be offensive but trust me, this "mac users like expensive software with apple logo" like things doesn't help anyone.
"Mac users" you see have chosen a Mach/BSD/NeXTStep schizophrenically hybrid OS over an OS used by 90\% of population.
If you remove "Apple" friendly logo and UI, OS X is exactly that.
So, if something is good, they use it.
In fact, they keep using it.
Macs without VLC is a rare thing...The article doesn't speak about lack of funding or users not already donating.
The article and the signs lately shows a mysterious lack of Mac developers/packagers for some reason.
It is really mysterious if you ask me and no, Mac users doesn't give 40 dollars to a media player no matter how great it can be.
Some German company learned it hard way and they still keep ignoring that lesson.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467356</id>
	<title>Re:Volume Amp is a VLC-only feature</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259675940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can boost QT's volume playback by a little over 100\%, though. Just hold Shift + Command + up arrow and QT will just let you set the volume louder than 100\%. If you change the volume slider, it'll jump back down. I think it's either 150\% or 200\%; I forget how high it goes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can boost QT 's volume playback by a little over 100 \ % , though .
Just hold Shift + Command + up arrow and QT will just let you set the volume louder than 100 \ % .
If you change the volume slider , it 'll jump back down .
I think it 's either 150 \ % or 200 \ % ; I forget how high it goes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can boost QT's volume playback by a little over 100\%, though.
Just hold Shift + Command + up arrow and QT will just let you set the volume louder than 100\%.
If you change the volume slider, it'll jump back down.
I think it's either 150\% or 200\%; I forget how high it goes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465132</id>
	<title>Re:Handbrake</title>
	<author>Torrance</author>
	<datestamp>1259666220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>AFAIK, Handbrake only uses VLC's version of libdvdcss to decrypt encrypted DVDs. And this was purely for legal reasons. Handbrake does its own decoding.</htmltext>
<tokenext>AFAIK , Handbrake only uses VLC 's version of libdvdcss to decrypt encrypted DVDs .
And this was purely for legal reasons .
Handbrake does its own decoding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AFAIK, Handbrake only uses VLC's version of libdvdcss to decrypt encrypted DVDs.
And this was purely for legal reasons.
Handbrake does its own decoding.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30471040</id>
	<title>Re:Niceplayer isn't a bad alternative</title>
	<author>Per Wigren</author>
	<datestamp>1261045860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Except that it hasn't had a single update, even in the source repository, for well over a year. Seems pretty dead to me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Except that it has n't had a single update , even in the source repository , for well over a year .
Seems pretty dead to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except that it hasn't had a single update, even in the source repository, for well over a year.
Seems pretty dead to me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465050</id>
	<title>Re:OS X is UNIX</title>
	<author>GWBasic</author>
	<datestamp>1259665920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why do they need a special OS X build? Shouldn't it build the same way it does on any UNIX?</p></div><p>Because Apple's video and GUI APIs are different then what KDE and Gnome use.</p><p>You really can only do "write once, compile everywhere" for libraries, console apps, and X.  Once you're tying into the look and feel of an operating system and its core IO systems, you need to have platform specific code.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do they need a special OS X build ?
Should n't it build the same way it does on any UNIX ? Because Apple 's video and GUI APIs are different then what KDE and Gnome use.You really can only do " write once , compile everywhere " for libraries , console apps , and X. Once you 're tying into the look and feel of an operating system and its core IO systems , you need to have platform specific code .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do they need a special OS X build?
Shouldn't it build the same way it does on any UNIX?Because Apple's video and GUI APIs are different then what KDE and Gnome use.You really can only do "write once, compile everywhere" for libraries, console apps, and X.  Once you're tying into the look and feel of an operating system and its core IO systems, you need to have platform specific code.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467376</id>
	<title>Re:OS X needs VLC</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1259676120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It wouldn't "die" on Windows, since Microsoft actually gives a crap about backwards compatibility.</p><p>I think it says a lot about OS X that a program with no active developers "dies." If only Apple gave half-a-crap about old apps running, that wouldn't be an issue!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would n't " die " on Windows , since Microsoft actually gives a crap about backwards compatibility.I think it says a lot about OS X that a program with no active developers " dies .
" If only Apple gave half-a-crap about old apps running , that would n't be an issue !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It wouldn't "die" on Windows, since Microsoft actually gives a crap about backwards compatibility.I think it says a lot about OS X that a program with no active developers "dies.
" If only Apple gave half-a-crap about old apps running, that wouldn't be an issue!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30469548</id>
	<title>Re:Oh fuck no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259692560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's all fine and dandy, but none of that changes the fact that iTunes still butchers ANY attempt to sort your playlist the way you want. Its general organization lists suck ass. I don't want my music organized by name, year, album, or any other bullshit. I want it organized the way that I spent *HOURS* organizing it with an intricate network of folders and directories. Until iTunes can do that without pissing and moaning, fuck Apple.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's all fine and dandy , but none of that changes the fact that iTunes still butchers ANY attempt to sort your playlist the way you want .
Its general organization lists suck ass .
I do n't want my music organized by name , year , album , or any other bullshit .
I want it organized the way that I spent * HOURS * organizing it with an intricate network of folders and directories .
Until iTunes can do that without pissing and moaning , fuck Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's all fine and dandy, but none of that changes the fact that iTunes still butchers ANY attempt to sort your playlist the way you want.
Its general organization lists suck ass.
I don't want my music organized by name, year, album, or any other bullshit.
I want it organized the way that I spent *HOURS* organizing it with an intricate network of folders and directories.
Until iTunes can do that without pissing and moaning, fuck Apple.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465872</id>
	<title>Re:OS X needs VLC</title>
	<author>nneonneo</author>
	<datestamp>1259668440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you tried the "apply to all files of this type" in the Get Info window? AFAIK this is how you re-associate a file extension to a new program.</p><p>As for Quicktime's formats, try <a href="http://perian.org/#download" title="perian.org">Perian</a> [perian.org]: it is a codec pack for QuickTime (a la Directshow) which integrates ffmpeg, MKV, and a few other formats.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you tried the " apply to all files of this type " in the Get Info window ?
AFAIK this is how you re-associate a file extension to a new program.As for Quicktime 's formats , try Perian [ perian.org ] : it is a codec pack for QuickTime ( a la Directshow ) which integrates ffmpeg , MKV , and a few other formats .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you tried the "apply to all files of this type" in the Get Info window?
AFAIK this is how you re-associate a file extension to a new program.As for Quicktime's formats, try Perian [perian.org]: it is a codec pack for QuickTime (a la Directshow) which integrates ffmpeg, MKV, and a few other formats.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466984</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259673660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465896</id>
	<title>Re:Oh fuck no</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259668560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Its like its authors decided the age-old concept of 'files' was not good enough anymore so their software (poorly) tries to portray the real-life concept of a dusty box filled with records while dumping every song into some random folder with a cryptic filename. But these wiseguys don't realise that I'd much rather deal with files that I can recognise by their filename, copy and move them with the well known 'cp' and 'mv' commands rather than having their craptastic software try to manage it all.</p></div> </blockquote><p>I'm sure you're just going to yell "FANBOI FANBOI FANBOI" at me, but seriously, if you want to use 'mv' and 'cp' to manage your files, why did you think a GUI music library program was going to be useful to you at all? Also, if you're so leet, how come you didn't figure out that you can turn off their file management features? Is it because they didn't give you a CLI tool to edit the pref file?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its like its authors decided the age-old concept of 'files ' was not good enough anymore so their software ( poorly ) tries to portray the real-life concept of a dusty box filled with records while dumping every song into some random folder with a cryptic filename .
But these wiseguys do n't realise that I 'd much rather deal with files that I can recognise by their filename , copy and move them with the well known 'cp ' and 'mv ' commands rather than having their craptastic software try to manage it all .
I 'm sure you 're just going to yell " FANBOI FANBOI FANBOI " at me , but seriously , if you want to use 'mv ' and 'cp ' to manage your files , why did you think a GUI music library program was going to be useful to you at all ?
Also , if you 're so leet , how come you did n't figure out that you can turn off their file management features ?
Is it because they did n't give you a CLI tool to edit the pref file ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its like its authors decided the age-old concept of 'files' was not good enough anymore so their software (poorly) tries to portray the real-life concept of a dusty box filled with records while dumping every song into some random folder with a cryptic filename.
But these wiseguys don't realise that I'd much rather deal with files that I can recognise by their filename, copy and move them with the well known 'cp' and 'mv' commands rather than having their craptastic software try to manage it all.
I'm sure you're just going to yell "FANBOI FANBOI FANBOI" at me, but seriously, if you want to use 'mv' and 'cp' to manage your files, why did you think a GUI music library program was going to be useful to you at all?
Also, if you're so leet, how come you didn't figure out that you can turn off their file management features?
Is it because they didn't give you a CLI tool to edit the pref file?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466900</id>
	<title>Re:VLC is an amazing, gigantic success on OS X</title>
	<author>fm6</author>
	<datestamp>1259673120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I bet VLC would be even more successful on Mac if they charged $39.99 for it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Hm. If I were a freelance Mac developer, and thought you were right, I'd consider supporting a commercial version. Of course, anybody could take my source code and compile it without paying me, but I'll bet a lot of people would pay either because they think I deserve the money or they just don't know any better.</p></div></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet VLC would be even more successful on Mac if they charged $ 39.99 for it.Hm .
If I were a freelance Mac developer , and thought you were right , I 'd consider supporting a commercial version .
Of course , anybody could take my source code and compile it without paying me , but I 'll bet a lot of people would pay either because they think I deserve the money or they just do n't know any better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet VLC would be even more successful on Mac if they charged $39.99 for it.Hm.
If I were a freelance Mac developer, and thought you were right, I'd consider supporting a commercial version.
Of course, anybody could take my source code and compile it without paying me, but I'll bet a lot of people would pay either because they think I deserve the money or they just don't know any better.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466490</id>
	<title>Re:OS X needs VLC</title>
	<author>Andtalath</author>
	<datestamp>1259670960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Command+I
Open with (choose VLC)
Change all

Done.
There are several other ways as well, but that's the one I use.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Command + I Open with ( choose VLC ) Change all Done .
There are several other ways as well , but that 's the one I use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Command+I
Open with (choose VLC)
Change all

Done.
There are several other ways as well, but that's the one I use.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465208</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464818</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259665200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm a mac user and I find no reason to use VLC as quicktime can handle everything (I have Perian installed). The current VLC version for mac is not working fine, so I better not use it anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a mac user and I find no reason to use VLC as quicktime can handle everything ( I have Perian installed ) .
The current VLC version for mac is not working fine , so I better not use it anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a mac user and I find no reason to use VLC as quicktime can handle everything (I have Perian installed).
The current VLC version for mac is not working fine, so I better not use it anyway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465812</id>
	<title>Manpower?</title>
	<author>greyline</author>
	<datestamp>1259668260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Manpower...really? That's such a sexist term, are there no female developers? Sure there are. People power or human power is a much more gender-neutral term.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Manpower...really ?
That 's such a sexist term , are there no female developers ?
Sure there are .
People power or human power is a much more gender-neutral term .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Manpower...really?
That's such a sexist term, are there no female developers?
Sure there are.
People power or human power is a much more gender-neutral term.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30469064</id>
	<title>Re:Oh fuck no</title>
	<author>chthonicdaemon</author>
	<datestamp>1259688780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unfortunately that won't update automatically when I add new music to the library or remove music from the library unless I do it all via iTunes.  And don't get me started on iTunes happily adding duplicate files whenever you add music (so you have to explictly navigate to the new folder and add that instead of just adding everything and sensibly hoping that the files already in the library won't be added twice).

Then there's the big one for me: My wife and I live in the same house with the same internet connection, but there is no easy way for us to subscribe to the same podcasts and only download them once.  With an external file-based system I would be able to have the stuff I wanted downloaded and then use "standard" syncing tools that already exist to synchronise our libraries.  I like iTunes, but there are plenty of things wrong with the way that it handles interaction with your files.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately that wo n't update automatically when I add new music to the library or remove music from the library unless I do it all via iTunes .
And do n't get me started on iTunes happily adding duplicate files whenever you add music ( so you have to explictly navigate to the new folder and add that instead of just adding everything and sensibly hoping that the files already in the library wo n't be added twice ) .
Then there 's the big one for me : My wife and I live in the same house with the same internet connection , but there is no easy way for us to subscribe to the same podcasts and only download them once .
With an external file-based system I would be able to have the stuff I wanted downloaded and then use " standard " syncing tools that already exist to synchronise our libraries .
I like iTunes , but there are plenty of things wrong with the way that it handles interaction with your files .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately that won't update automatically when I add new music to the library or remove music from the library unless I do it all via iTunes.
And don't get me started on iTunes happily adding duplicate files whenever you add music (so you have to explictly navigate to the new folder and add that instead of just adding everything and sensibly hoping that the files already in the library won't be added twice).
Then there's the big one for me: My wife and I live in the same house with the same internet connection, but there is no easy way for us to subscribe to the same podcasts and only download them once.
With an external file-based system I would be able to have the stuff I wanted downloaded and then use "standard" syncing tools that already exist to synchronise our libraries.
I like iTunes, but there are plenty of things wrong with the way that it handles interaction with your files.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465260</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468466</id>
	<title>Movist</title>
	<author>Midnight Thunder</author>
	<datestamp>1259683680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If we are naming alternatives then Movist is a good alternative. On the other hand VLC still beats it when it comes to streaming protocols.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If we are naming alternatives then Movist is a good alternative .
On the other hand VLC still beats it when it comes to streaming protocols .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we are naming alternatives then Movist is a good alternative.
On the other hand VLC still beats it when it comes to streaming protocols.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467396</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30469856</id>
	<title>Re:This would be a great loss</title>
	<author>Lehk228</author>
	<datestamp>1259695260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>foobar2000 supports it, though foobar is a music not a video player.  file&gt;Preferences&gt;Advanced&gt;Playback&gt;full file buffering() will buffer the whole file or up to x Kb of it</htmltext>
<tokenext>foobar2000 supports it , though foobar is a music not a video player .
file &gt; Preferences &gt; Advanced &gt; Playback &gt; full file buffering ( ) will buffer the whole file or up to x Kb of it</tokentext>
<sentencetext>foobar2000 supports it, though foobar is a music not a video player.
file&gt;Preferences&gt;Advanced&gt;Playback&gt;full file buffering() will buffer the whole file or up to x Kb of it</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464724</id>
	<title>Moot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259664960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apple is poised to take over the whole video world in the next year. It'll be windows that needs the fancy VLC to watch Mac-made movies</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple is poised to take over the whole video world in the next year .
It 'll be windows that needs the fancy VLC to watch Mac-made movies</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple is poised to take over the whole video world in the next year.
It'll be windows that needs the fancy VLC to watch Mac-made movies</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465984</id>
	<title>Re:I'll help!</title>
	<author>plasmacutter</author>
	<datestamp>1259668800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I submitted the story. I'm not a member of the dev team, but give the popularity of VLC on this platform it absolutely astounded me this issue had not appeared on a major news site yet.</p><p>The forum thread linked from the article suggests you present yourself to the developer mailing list.</p><p><a href="http://mailman.videolan.org/" title="videolan.org">here</a> [videolan.org] is a list of all the videolan project's mailing lists - I believe the one they want you to contact them through is <a href="http://mailman.videolan.org/listinfo/vlc-devel" title="videolan.org">vlc-devel</a> [videolan.org]</p><p>Thank you for offering, i'd do so myself if i were not utterly sub-novice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I submitted the story .
I 'm not a member of the dev team , but give the popularity of VLC on this platform it absolutely astounded me this issue had not appeared on a major news site yet.The forum thread linked from the article suggests you present yourself to the developer mailing list.here [ videolan.org ] is a list of all the videolan project 's mailing lists - I believe the one they want you to contact them through is vlc-devel [ videolan.org ] Thank you for offering , i 'd do so myself if i were not utterly sub-novice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I submitted the story.
I'm not a member of the dev team, but give the popularity of VLC on this platform it absolutely astounded me this issue had not appeared on a major news site yet.The forum thread linked from the article suggests you present yourself to the developer mailing list.here [videolan.org] is a list of all the videolan project's mailing lists - I believe the one they want you to contact them through is vlc-devel [videolan.org]Thank you for offering, i'd do so myself if i were not utterly sub-novice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464780</id>
	<title>user-friendly?</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1259665080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whoever takes the job, please remove the stupid "anything I want to play gets added to a stupid playlist" thing. When I open a video with QuickTime, it plays that video. If I open another video at the same time, it opens up another QuickTime window.</p><p>VLC is more like QuickTime (video player) but it currently acts more like iTunes (media library player).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whoever takes the job , please remove the stupid " anything I want to play gets added to a stupid playlist " thing .
When I open a video with QuickTime , it plays that video .
If I open another video at the same time , it opens up another QuickTime window.VLC is more like QuickTime ( video player ) but it currently acts more like iTunes ( media library player ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whoever takes the job, please remove the stupid "anything I want to play gets added to a stupid playlist" thing.
When I open a video with QuickTime, it plays that video.
If I open another video at the same time, it opens up another QuickTime window.VLC is more like QuickTime (video player) but it currently acts more like iTunes (media library player).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464748</id>
	<title>Mplayer OSX Extended</title>
	<author>The J Kid</author>
	<datestamp>1259665020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sad to see VLC struggling, but there's always <a href="http://mplayerosx.sttz.ch/" title="mplayerosx.sttz.ch">Mplayer OSX Extended</a> [mplayerosx.sttz.ch] for the mac. Get the extra codec pack and it can play anything!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sad to see VLC struggling , but there 's always Mplayer OSX Extended [ mplayerosx.sttz.ch ] for the mac .
Get the extra codec pack and it can play anything !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sad to see VLC struggling, but there's always Mplayer OSX Extended [mplayerosx.sttz.ch] for the mac.
Get the extra codec pack and it can play anything!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468236</id>
	<title>Re:Let it die</title>
	<author>mfnickster</author>
	<datestamp>1259681700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since when is stating an honest negative opinion "flamebait"?

Fucking asshole mods on crack! I'm going back to posting AC until you put the pipe down...

P.S. I know people will say you shouldn't complain about VLC because it's free...I've given it several tries over the last few years, and every time I conclude that it's worth every penny I paid for it!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since when is stating an honest negative opinion " flamebait " ?
Fucking asshole mods on crack !
I 'm going back to posting AC until you put the pipe down.. . P.S. I know people will say you should n't complain about VLC because it 's free...I 've given it several tries over the last few years , and every time I conclude that it 's worth every penny I paid for it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since when is stating an honest negative opinion "flamebait"?
Fucking asshole mods on crack!
I'm going back to posting AC until you put the pipe down...

P.S. I know people will say you shouldn't complain about VLC because it's free...I've given it several tries over the last few years, and every time I conclude that it's worth every penny I paid for it!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464882</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465446</id>
	<title>Re:Mplayer OSX Extended</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259667060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sad to see VLC struggling, but there's always <a href="http://mplayerosx.sttz.ch/" title="mplayerosx.sttz.ch">Mplayer OSX Extended</a> [mplayerosx.sttz.ch] for the mac. Get the extra codec pack and it can play anything!</p></div><p>Compare 1080p H.264 matroska playback in vlc to mplayer:</p><p>on my macbook pro (exactly a year old at this point) vlc plays it without a stutter, mplayer extended will drop frames like an epileptic. Im sure they both drop frames, but VLC does so much more gracefully, resulting in no noticeable distortion, while mplayer extended makes it obvious (and incredibly annoying) to the viewer.  Nothing like watching blade runner final cut and being slowly infuriated by those epic scenes being subjected to massive chop and screen tears.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sad to see VLC struggling , but there 's always Mplayer OSX Extended [ mplayerosx.sttz.ch ] for the mac .
Get the extra codec pack and it can play anything ! Compare 1080p H.264 matroska playback in vlc to mplayer : on my macbook pro ( exactly a year old at this point ) vlc plays it without a stutter , mplayer extended will drop frames like an epileptic .
Im sure they both drop frames , but VLC does so much more gracefully , resulting in no noticeable distortion , while mplayer extended makes it obvious ( and incredibly annoying ) to the viewer .
Nothing like watching blade runner final cut and being slowly infuriated by those epic scenes being subjected to massive chop and screen tears .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sad to see VLC struggling, but there's always Mplayer OSX Extended [mplayerosx.sttz.ch] for the mac.
Get the extra codec pack and it can play anything!Compare 1080p H.264 matroska playback in vlc to mplayer:on my macbook pro (exactly a year old at this point) vlc plays it without a stutter, mplayer extended will drop frames like an epileptic.
Im sure they both drop frames, but VLC does so much more gracefully, resulting in no noticeable distortion, while mplayer extended makes it obvious (and incredibly annoying) to the viewer.
Nothing like watching blade runner final cut and being slowly infuriated by those epic scenes being subjected to massive chop and screen tears.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464748</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466442</id>
	<title>Re:dumb questions</title>
	<author>Yrrebnarg</author>
	<datestamp>1259670720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Am I feeding a troll?
<p>
They didn't capriciously shitcan the OS X port, there isn't anyone in their community that wants to wrestle with the Mac port.  That kind of thing isn't what causes a software project to fork.  Forks happen when someone says "macs are for weenies" and removes support for a platform while there are still people working on that code.  When nobody wants to work on it, nobody wants to work on it.
</p><p>
And if you were willing to buy a couple developers a Mac, they might switch.  It doesn't really matter what OS the users are running, they're not being supported financially by the project and have no incentive to scratch an itch that isn't theirs.  My guess is that it will languish for a while and then someone will decide to come along and update it in a while.  But it won't be a forking event.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I feeding a troll ?
They did n't capriciously shitcan the OS X port , there is n't anyone in their community that wants to wrestle with the Mac port .
That kind of thing is n't what causes a software project to fork .
Forks happen when someone says " macs are for weenies " and removes support for a platform while there are still people working on that code .
When nobody wants to work on it , nobody wants to work on it .
And if you were willing to buy a couple developers a Mac , they might switch .
It does n't really matter what OS the users are running , they 're not being supported financially by the project and have no incentive to scratch an itch that is n't theirs .
My guess is that it will languish for a while and then someone will decide to come along and update it in a while .
But it wo n't be a forking event .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I feeding a troll?
They didn't capriciously shitcan the OS X port, there isn't anyone in their community that wants to wrestle with the Mac port.
That kind of thing isn't what causes a software project to fork.
Forks happen when someone says "macs are for weenies" and removes support for a platform while there are still people working on that code.
When nobody wants to work on it, nobody wants to work on it.
And if you were willing to buy a couple developers a Mac, they might switch.
It doesn't really matter what OS the users are running, they're not being supported financially by the project and have no incentive to scratch an itch that isn't theirs.
My guess is that it will languish for a while and then someone will decide to come along and update it in a while.
But it won't be a forking event.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464914</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465594</id>
	<title>I'll help!</title>
	<author>MrCrassic</author>
	<datestamp>1259667420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wanted to respond directly to the person who put this post up, but I don't want to register for yet another forum.</p><p>I'll gladly help develop for the project. My knowledge in video and audio processing is <b>very</b> weak (I took a class on it, but I didn't really put too much work into it), but my skills in C and C++ are pretty good (but not expert). I'm also pretty well-versed in Java, though it's been a while since I needed to whip it out. Finally, I'm slowly, but surely, learning Objective-C.</p><p>Please e-mail me at the address listed here. I don't want to see this die! I just migrated over to OS X and find this app extremely helpful, especially from my use of it in Windows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wanted to respond directly to the person who put this post up , but I do n't want to register for yet another forum.I 'll gladly help develop for the project .
My knowledge in video and audio processing is very weak ( I took a class on it , but I did n't really put too much work into it ) , but my skills in C and C + + are pretty good ( but not expert ) .
I 'm also pretty well-versed in Java , though it 's been a while since I needed to whip it out .
Finally , I 'm slowly , but surely , learning Objective-C.Please e-mail me at the address listed here .
I do n't want to see this die !
I just migrated over to OS X and find this app extremely helpful , especially from my use of it in Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wanted to respond directly to the person who put this post up, but I don't want to register for yet another forum.I'll gladly help develop for the project.
My knowledge in video and audio processing is very weak (I took a class on it, but I didn't really put too much work into it), but my skills in C and C++ are pretty good (but not expert).
I'm also pretty well-versed in Java, though it's been a while since I needed to whip it out.
Finally, I'm slowly, but surely, learning Objective-C.Please e-mail me at the address listed here.
I don't want to see this die!
I just migrated over to OS X and find this app extremely helpful, especially from my use of it in Windows.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30492884</id>
	<title>Re:This would be a great loss</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261129680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>VLC has a buffer option for opening files/streams of all types.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>VLC has a buffer option for opening files/streams of all types .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>VLC has a buffer option for opening files/streams of all types.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467578</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465276</id>
	<title>Job Market...</title>
	<author>ghostis</author>
	<datestamp>1259666580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suspect they will find more development help when the job market improves (hopefully soon)...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect they will find more development help when the job market improves ( hopefully soon ) ... : -/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect they will find more development help when the job market improves (hopefully soon)... :-/</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464890</id>
	<title>It's clearly unholy</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1259665380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If this were a worthy project, Father Steve would have told us so.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If this were a worthy project , Father Steve would have told us so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If this were a worthy project, Father Steve would have told us so.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466864</id>
	<title>Who cares</title>
	<author>moniker127</author>
	<datestamp>1259672940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>VLC Will just become another reason for you to dual boot windows. You already need to if you play games, why not if you watch movies?

I just run windows on desktops through. I'm neither a beret wearing graphic designer nor a homosexual.</htmltext>
<tokenext>VLC Will just become another reason for you to dual boot windows .
You already need to if you play games , why not if you watch movies ?
I just run windows on desktops through .
I 'm neither a beret wearing graphic designer nor a homosexual .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>VLC Will just become another reason for you to dual boot windows.
You already need to if you play games, why not if you watch movies?
I just run windows on desktops through.
I'm neither a beret wearing graphic designer nor a homosexual.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464914</id>
	<title>dumb questions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259665440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>why cant they just have their current linux developers switch to mac?  surely there are more people running that?</p><p>i thought vlc was open source?  isnt part of the power of open source that when crap like this happens the source code is available for ANYONE to continue it?<br>wont there be like half a dozen different forks of the mac version in a month?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>why cant they just have their current linux developers switch to mac ?
surely there are more people running that ? i thought vlc was open source ?
isnt part of the power of open source that when crap like this happens the source code is available for ANYONE to continue it ? wont there be like half a dozen different forks of the mac version in a month ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why cant they just have their current linux developers switch to mac?
surely there are more people running that?i thought vlc was open source?
isnt part of the power of open source that when crap like this happens the source code is available for ANYONE to continue it?wont there be like half a dozen different forks of the mac version in a month?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468046</id>
	<title>Re:Mplayer OSX Extended</title>
	<author>DJRumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1259680200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I experienced similar issues. You can get Mplayer OSX working, but need to change the output to CoreVideo or Quartz/Quicktime. It still doesn't compare to the performance of VLC. I have zero interest in it's Lan capabilities.</p><p>VLC has languished on Mac for a few years now. You still can't get Lanczos (trying to enable it will just get you audio with no video). It's been that way for over a year with no fixes in sight.</p><p>I find it odd that there are so many new Mac users but projects like this one are dying on the vine. I love coding, but I don't know C. Most of my experience is in LotusScript and VB (yeah, don't laugh...).</p><p>It will be a shame if it dies on the Mac. If you're familiar with some coding, how hard is it to make the jump to another language?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I experienced similar issues .
You can get Mplayer OSX working , but need to change the output to CoreVideo or Quartz/Quicktime .
It still does n't compare to the performance of VLC .
I have zero interest in it 's Lan capabilities.VLC has languished on Mac for a few years now .
You still ca n't get Lanczos ( trying to enable it will just get you audio with no video ) .
It 's been that way for over a year with no fixes in sight.I find it odd that there are so many new Mac users but projects like this one are dying on the vine .
I love coding , but I do n't know C. Most of my experience is in LotusScript and VB ( yeah , do n't laugh... ) .It will be a shame if it dies on the Mac .
If you 're familiar with some coding , how hard is it to make the jump to another language ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I experienced similar issues.
You can get Mplayer OSX working, but need to change the output to CoreVideo or Quartz/Quicktime.
It still doesn't compare to the performance of VLC.
I have zero interest in it's Lan capabilities.VLC has languished on Mac for a few years now.
You still can't get Lanczos (trying to enable it will just get you audio with no video).
It's been that way for over a year with no fixes in sight.I find it odd that there are so many new Mac users but projects like this one are dying on the vine.
I love coding, but I don't know C. Most of my experience is in LotusScript and VB (yeah, don't laugh...).It will be a shame if it dies on the Mac.
If you're familiar with some coding, how hard is it to make the jump to another language?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468438</id>
	<title>Re:I'll help!</title>
	<author>Midnight Thunder</author>
	<datestamp>1259683500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if you can't help directly on the Mac side, contributing to the core code base still helps.</p><p>A few things general things outside the core include improving the VLC plugin and possibly VLCKit. The latter is a solution intended at allowing VLC to be integrated into other Cocoa based applications. Think of this as a component that you could use in Interface Builder, as then eventually lay the path for revamping the VLC UI on the Mac. There are plenty of ideas for a better Mac UI, but unfortunately the people who are good at designing UIs aren't necessarily the same people who are good at the lower level code.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if you ca n't help directly on the Mac side , contributing to the core code base still helps.A few things general things outside the core include improving the VLC plugin and possibly VLCKit .
The latter is a solution intended at allowing VLC to be integrated into other Cocoa based applications .
Think of this as a component that you could use in Interface Builder , as then eventually lay the path for revamping the VLC UI on the Mac .
There are plenty of ideas for a better Mac UI , but unfortunately the people who are good at designing UIs are n't necessarily the same people who are good at the lower level code .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if you can't help directly on the Mac side, contributing to the core code base still helps.A few things general things outside the core include improving the VLC plugin and possibly VLCKit.
The latter is a solution intended at allowing VLC to be integrated into other Cocoa based applications.
Think of this as a component that you could use in Interface Builder, as then eventually lay the path for revamping the VLC UI on the Mac.
There are plenty of ideas for a better Mac UI, but unfortunately the people who are good at designing UIs aren't necessarily the same people who are good at the lower level code.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30471578</id>
	<title>An alternate view</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1261050600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I want to use programs which will be developed even if no one spends money. I will not write code, because I am not a programmer, and that is not a good way for me to contribute.</p><p>If the only part of vlc that deserves to live is libdvdcss, so be it. Lately VLC plays less than half of the files that I want to play, the same stuff gstreamer chokes on, AND it has been choking on DVD menus (drawing them incorrectly) so it's not actually worth anything to me. But then, I'm a Linux user. It seems like everything I want to run is developed for Windows or Linux, and none of it for the mac.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I want to use programs which will be developed even if no one spends money .
I will not write code , because I am not a programmer , and that is not a good way for me to contribute.If the only part of vlc that deserves to live is libdvdcss , so be it .
Lately VLC plays less than half of the files that I want to play , the same stuff gstreamer chokes on , AND it has been choking on DVD menus ( drawing them incorrectly ) so it 's not actually worth anything to me .
But then , I 'm a Linux user .
It seems like everything I want to run is developed for Windows or Linux , and none of it for the mac .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want to use programs which will be developed even if no one spends money.
I will not write code, because I am not a programmer, and that is not a good way for me to contribute.If the only part of vlc that deserves to live is libdvdcss, so be it.
Lately VLC plays less than half of the files that I want to play, the same stuff gstreamer chokes on, AND it has been choking on DVD menus (drawing them incorrectly) so it's not actually worth anything to me.
But then, I'm a Linux user.
It seems like everything I want to run is developed for Windows or Linux, and none of it for the mac.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467456</id>
	<title>Re:Handbrake</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259676540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, on Mac it can optionally use VLC to decss encrypted DVDs, this only removes the encryption, http://trac.handbrake.fr/wiki/SupportFAQ#vlc<br>On Linux it can use libdvdcss for this, on Windows it can't read encrypted DVDs (but there's transparent online DeCSS decrypters on Windows).<br>Any kind of DVD media is then sent into libdvdnav+libdvdread, I know it uses a built-in version of ffmpeg for all other media files so I assume it's also used for the actual MPEG2 audio/video decoding. So loosing VLC only means you have to DeCSS encrypted DVDs in some other way on Mac (like you always have to do on Windows).<br>On Windows it uses QuickTime for the internal encode preview and VLC for the external one, but you can change what program it calls in Preferences. I have no idea if Handbrake/Mac uses VLC for preview but if so it's extremely likely that if it does it can easily be made to call up some other media player instead if needed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , on Mac it can optionally use VLC to decss encrypted DVDs , this only removes the encryption , http : //trac.handbrake.fr/wiki/SupportFAQ # vlcOn Linux it can use libdvdcss for this , on Windows it ca n't read encrypted DVDs ( but there 's transparent online DeCSS decrypters on Windows ) .Any kind of DVD media is then sent into libdvdnav + libdvdread , I know it uses a built-in version of ffmpeg for all other media files so I assume it 's also used for the actual MPEG2 audio/video decoding .
So loosing VLC only means you have to DeCSS encrypted DVDs in some other way on Mac ( like you always have to do on Windows ) .On Windows it uses QuickTime for the internal encode preview and VLC for the external one , but you can change what program it calls in Preferences .
I have no idea if Handbrake/Mac uses VLC for preview but if so it 's extremely likely that if it does it can easily be made to call up some other media player instead if needed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, on Mac it can optionally use VLC to decss encrypted DVDs, this only removes the encryption, http://trac.handbrake.fr/wiki/SupportFAQ#vlcOn Linux it can use libdvdcss for this, on Windows it can't read encrypted DVDs (but there's transparent online DeCSS decrypters on Windows).Any kind of DVD media is then sent into libdvdnav+libdvdread, I know it uses a built-in version of ffmpeg for all other media files so I assume it's also used for the actual MPEG2 audio/video decoding.
So loosing VLC only means you have to DeCSS encrypted DVDs in some other way on Mac (like you always have to do on Windows).On Windows it uses QuickTime for the internal encode preview and VLC for the external one, but you can change what program it calls in Preferences.
I have no idea if Handbrake/Mac uses VLC for preview but if so it's extremely likely that if it does it can easily be made to call up some other media player instead if needed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467362</id>
	<title>Re:Could it be possible that noone cares?</title>
	<author>Ma8thew</author>
	<datestamp>1259676000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What the fuck are you talking about?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What the fuck are you talking about ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the fuck are you talking about?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465508</id>
	<title>Re:user-friendly?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259667240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd so much rather have QuickTime support playlists than VLC support multiple player instances.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd so much rather have QuickTime support playlists than VLC support multiple player instances .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd so much rather have QuickTime support playlists than VLC support multiple player instances.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465004</id>
	<title>Re:Moot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259665740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>care to elaborate? quicktime doesn't even support mpeg2 playback without a pay addon. apple's video playback support is actually fairly shoddy compared with other platforms.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>care to elaborate ?
quicktime does n't even support mpeg2 playback without a pay addon .
apple 's video playback support is actually fairly shoddy compared with other platforms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>care to elaborate?
quicktime doesn't even support mpeg2 playback without a pay addon.
apple's video playback support is actually fairly shoddy compared with other platforms.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30493926</id>
	<title>Re:A different view from a developer</title>
	<author>The J Kid</author>
	<datestamp>1261134360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, Rog&#233;rio Brito,</p><p>Hi.</p><p>I am not a developer, but I do care. I do know about the "incestuous" relationships of the media playing libraries in the OSS world. I do know that having one alternative less is a bad thing, especially in the long run. I'm also very grateful for LAME and don't "wish the death of" any one of the projects you mentioned.</p><p>I do provide feedback to OSS developers, hopefully in the form of constructive suggestions. Maybe not media related ones, as that isn't my fort&#233;, but others. I've petitioned daringfireball to bring some attention to the matter. He reaches a lot of Mac devs. I think I'll try that Delicious Monster guy next.</p><p>My post above was not about dancing on the grave of the traffic cone, but to provide a service to the community: to share with other people an alternative way of playing media well that they may not know about, as I have only recently (re-)discovered Mplayer OSX Extended.</p><p>I guess that what I meant to say to you is: "Don't shit all over people you don't know and have only read one sentence of."</p><p>Signed, "user like the one above"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , Rog   rio Brito,Hi.I am not a developer , but I do care .
I do know about the " incestuous " relationships of the media playing libraries in the OSS world .
I do know that having one alternative less is a bad thing , especially in the long run .
I 'm also very grateful for LAME and do n't " wish the death of " any one of the projects you mentioned.I do provide feedback to OSS developers , hopefully in the form of constructive suggestions .
Maybe not media related ones , as that is n't my fort   , but others .
I 've petitioned daringfireball to bring some attention to the matter .
He reaches a lot of Mac devs .
I think I 'll try that Delicious Monster guy next.My post above was not about dancing on the grave of the traffic cone , but to provide a service to the community : to share with other people an alternative way of playing media well that they may not know about , as I have only recently ( re- ) discovered Mplayer OSX Extended.I guess that what I meant to say to you is : " Do n't shit all over people you do n't know and have only read one sentence of .
" Signed , " user like the one above "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, Rogério Brito,Hi.I am not a developer, but I do care.
I do know about the "incestuous" relationships of the media playing libraries in the OSS world.
I do know that having one alternative less is a bad thing, especially in the long run.
I'm also very grateful for LAME and don't "wish the death of" any one of the projects you mentioned.I do provide feedback to OSS developers, hopefully in the form of constructive suggestions.
Maybe not media related ones, as that isn't my forté, but others.
I've petitioned daringfireball to bring some attention to the matter.
He reaches a lot of Mac devs.
I think I'll try that Delicious Monster guy next.My post above was not about dancing on the grave of the traffic cone, but to provide a service to the community: to share with other people an alternative way of playing media well that they may not know about, as I have only recently (re-)discovered Mplayer OSX Extended.I guess that what I meant to say to you is: "Don't shit all over people you don't know and have only read one sentence of.
"Signed, "user like the one above"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468274</id>
	<title>Re:dumb questions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259682120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>why cant they just have their current linux developers switch to mac?  surely there are more people running that?</p></div><p>Yep, anybody can switch to any platform in an instant. It's not like you have to build up years of familiarity with the intrinsic ways of a particular environment, or learn any platform-specific APIs or anything like that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>why cant they just have their current linux developers switch to mac ?
surely there are more people running that ? Yep , anybody can switch to any platform in an instant .
It 's not like you have to build up years of familiarity with the intrinsic ways of a particular environment , or learn any platform-specific APIs or anything like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why cant they just have their current linux developers switch to mac?
surely there are more people running that?Yep, anybody can switch to any platform in an instant.
It's not like you have to build up years of familiarity with the intrinsic ways of a particular environment, or learn any platform-specific APIs or anything like that.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30469558</id>
	<title>Re:This would be a great loss</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259692680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>VLC does this.  If you switch to advanced configuration mode, you can go to Input-&gt;Access Modules-&gt;File and increase the buffering length in milliseconds.  I do this to get smooth playback over WIFI.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>VLC does this .
If you switch to advanced configuration mode , you can go to Input- &gt; Access Modules- &gt; File and increase the buffering length in milliseconds .
I do this to get smooth playback over WIFI .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>VLC does this.
If you switch to advanced configuration mode, you can go to Input-&gt;Access Modules-&gt;File and increase the buffering length in milliseconds.
I do this to get smooth playback over WIFI.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30471028</id>
	<title>Re:VLC is an amazing, gigantic success on OS X</title>
	<author>Narcogen</author>
	<datestamp>1261045740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Are you really joking? VLC is the most successful open source project on Mac, forever. It even beats Firefox.</p><p>Here is a top sw downloads listing from absolutely general user focused download site: <a href="http://www.macupdate.com/popular/" title="macupdate.com">http://www.macupdate.com/popular/</a> [macupdate.com] </p><p>VLC has also become de-facto remote controlled Apple OS X software for iPhone/iPod users. Those are the true "walled garden" lovers/ignorers.</p><p>VLC should look at their community, IRC channel, developer public comments for why on earth their developer level dropped to zero with such amazing success.</p> </div><p>There's no need to because it's not a question. The answer is because there is, within the framework of any Open Source community, no essential relation between any measurement of a project's success and any measurement of its participation.</p><p>In commercial development, this relationship is simple-- it is provided by cash. More users means more income, more income means more resources to pay more programmers to continue to develop and support the project.</p><p>When the project is free for any and all to use (free as in beer) and participation in the project is based on "scratch your own itch" there is no relationship at all between the two.</p><p>Developers scratching their own itch on a project they need for their own use can continue working for years on a project that may have little or no application outside of a small community of like-minded developers with similar needs. Likewise, a fantastically popular application like VLC can eventually hit a brick wall when it finds there are no developers with itches that require scratching on a particular platform.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you really joking ?
VLC is the most successful open source project on Mac , forever .
It even beats Firefox.Here is a top sw downloads listing from absolutely general user focused download site : http : //www.macupdate.com/popular/ [ macupdate.com ] VLC has also become de-facto remote controlled Apple OS X software for iPhone/iPod users .
Those are the true " walled garden " lovers/ignorers.VLC should look at their community , IRC channel , developer public comments for why on earth their developer level dropped to zero with such amazing success .
There 's no need to because it 's not a question .
The answer is because there is , within the framework of any Open Source community , no essential relation between any measurement of a project 's success and any measurement of its participation.In commercial development , this relationship is simple-- it is provided by cash .
More users means more income , more income means more resources to pay more programmers to continue to develop and support the project.When the project is free for any and all to use ( free as in beer ) and participation in the project is based on " scratch your own itch " there is no relationship at all between the two.Developers scratching their own itch on a project they need for their own use can continue working for years on a project that may have little or no application outside of a small community of like-minded developers with similar needs .
Likewise , a fantastically popular application like VLC can eventually hit a brick wall when it finds there are no developers with itches that require scratching on a particular platform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you really joking?
VLC is the most successful open source project on Mac, forever.
It even beats Firefox.Here is a top sw downloads listing from absolutely general user focused download site: http://www.macupdate.com/popular/ [macupdate.com] VLC has also become de-facto remote controlled Apple OS X software for iPhone/iPod users.
Those are the true "walled garden" lovers/ignorers.VLC should look at their community, IRC channel, developer public comments for why on earth their developer level dropped to zero with such amazing success.
There's no need to because it's not a question.
The answer is because there is, within the framework of any Open Source community, no essential relation between any measurement of a project's success and any measurement of its participation.In commercial development, this relationship is simple-- it is provided by cash.
More users means more income, more income means more resources to pay more programmers to continue to develop and support the project.When the project is free for any and all to use (free as in beer) and participation in the project is based on "scratch your own itch" there is no relationship at all between the two.Developers scratching their own itch on a project they need for their own use can continue working for years on a project that may have little or no application outside of a small community of like-minded developers with similar needs.
Likewise, a fantastically popular application like VLC can eventually hit a brick wall when it finds there are no developers with itches that require scratching on a particular platform.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467304</id>
	<title>Attention Mr Jobs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259675640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looks like another potential victim can probably be sued into submission. It's on the ropes, better attack while you can.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like another potential victim can probably be sued into submission .
It 's on the ropes , better attack while you can .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like another potential victim can probably be sued into submission.
It's on the ropes, better attack while you can.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467396</id>
	<title>Niceplayer isn't a bad alternative</title>
	<author>atmurray</author>
	<datestamp>1259676240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For what it's worth, Niceplayer is a fairly decent alternative to Quicktime and VLC <a href="http://code.google.com/p/niceplayer/" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/niceplayer/</a> [google.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>For what it 's worth , Niceplayer is a fairly decent alternative to Quicktime and VLC http : //code.google.com/p/niceplayer/ [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For what it's worth, Niceplayer is a fairly decent alternative to Quicktime and VLC http://code.google.com/p/niceplayer/ [google.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30467846</id>
	<title>Re:Honestly, Mac sucks for open source</title>
	<author>jo\_ham</author>
	<datestamp>1259679060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sorry, but they're not dropping OS X support, they just have no one in the current project to handle that side of it, hence asking for more manpower.</p><p>If Microsoft puts an advert in the paper asking for more developers for Windows do you assume that they are dropping support for Windows?</p><p>Also, if you really are a "longtime programmer of many languages" then Obj-C really shouldn't be much of a stretch for you. It's not like it's written in Latin.</p><p>Your thinly veiled Apple bash post has been exposed I'm afraid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry , but they 're not dropping OS X support , they just have no one in the current project to handle that side of it , hence asking for more manpower.If Microsoft puts an advert in the paper asking for more developers for Windows do you assume that they are dropping support for Windows ? Also , if you really are a " longtime programmer of many languages " then Obj-C really should n't be much of a stretch for you .
It 's not like it 's written in Latin.Your thinly veiled Apple bash post has been exposed I 'm afraid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry, but they're not dropping OS X support, they just have no one in the current project to handle that side of it, hence asking for more manpower.If Microsoft puts an advert in the paper asking for more developers for Windows do you assume that they are dropping support for Windows?Also, if you really are a "longtime programmer of many languages" then Obj-C really shouldn't be much of a stretch for you.
It's not like it's written in Latin.Your thinly veiled Apple bash post has been exposed I'm afraid.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464828</id>
	<title>OS X is UNIX</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1259665200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do they need a special OS X build?  Shouldn't it build the same way it does on any UNIX?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do they need a special OS X build ?
Should n't it build the same way it does on any UNIX ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do they need a special OS X build?
Shouldn't it build the same way it does on any UNIX?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465604</id>
	<title>A different view from a developer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259667420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>(This message may be seen as inflammatory, but I assure you that it is just my opinion and not particularly anybody else---I don't speak for the projects on which I participate).</p><p>Hi.</p><p>I am not a developer of VLC, but I am part of the LAME team (that MP3 encoder that a good amount of people use). I see similar problems regarding LAME as those described by the VLC team: lack of continuous power and resources.</p><p>Some users just magically think that "oh, this program won't exist anymore, so let's use this other one". The sad thing here is that they are shortsighted in the fact that they, by doing nothing (just receiving the programs), are not giving the incentive for the projects.</p><p>What about if the proposed alternative dies a few days from now? The amount of alternatives is finite.</p><p>Not only that, but the major players out there all share the same codebase: there are "incestuous" (in a good sene of the word) relations with VLC, xine, and mplayer: the all use, to some extent or another (well, in some cases, to the full extent) some common libraries: ffmpeg, libmp3lame, theora, vorbis, dirac, x264 and so on.</p><p>Usually, also, the players also send some feedback to the people writing the libraries and, without them, the libraries would not be as good as they are. And the feedback that developers provide is, not infrequently, in form of patches, or constructive suggestions. Some users, like the one above, just cares less and, honestly, where would you just "grab the extra codec" if they all, come, essentially, from the first place?</p><p>If you didn't know, perhaps it is a good reminder to put here that people from the VLC project developed the nice libdvdcss library, which benefited xine and mplayer, while people in the other projects have directly or indirectly benefited the others.</p><p>I would not like to have the "Linux desktop" mainstream with a "community" with a person that doesn't want a community. For people that are more altruistic (and that show it, instead of just playing in slashdot all day), I am open to a more open talk.</p><p>[Gee, from what I wrote the above, it seems like if I only saw Linux---I actually value the other Unix-like operating systems as much].</p><p>I guess that what I meant to say here is: "Talk is cheap. Show me the code. Don't wish the death of what you may proudly use and not even know".</p><p>Regards, Rog&#233;rio Brito.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>( This message may be seen as inflammatory , but I assure you that it is just my opinion and not particularly anybody else---I do n't speak for the projects on which I participate ) .Hi.I am not a developer of VLC , but I am part of the LAME team ( that MP3 encoder that a good amount of people use ) .
I see similar problems regarding LAME as those described by the VLC team : lack of continuous power and resources.Some users just magically think that " oh , this program wo n't exist anymore , so let 's use this other one " .
The sad thing here is that they are shortsighted in the fact that they , by doing nothing ( just receiving the programs ) , are not giving the incentive for the projects.What about if the proposed alternative dies a few days from now ?
The amount of alternatives is finite.Not only that , but the major players out there all share the same codebase : there are " incestuous " ( in a good sene of the word ) relations with VLC , xine , and mplayer : the all use , to some extent or another ( well , in some cases , to the full extent ) some common libraries : ffmpeg , libmp3lame , theora , vorbis , dirac , x264 and so on.Usually , also , the players also send some feedback to the people writing the libraries and , without them , the libraries would not be as good as they are .
And the feedback that developers provide is , not infrequently , in form of patches , or constructive suggestions .
Some users , like the one above , just cares less and , honestly , where would you just " grab the extra codec " if they all , come , essentially , from the first place ? If you did n't know , perhaps it is a good reminder to put here that people from the VLC project developed the nice libdvdcss library , which benefited xine and mplayer , while people in the other projects have directly or indirectly benefited the others.I would not like to have the " Linux desktop " mainstream with a " community " with a person that does n't want a community .
For people that are more altruistic ( and that show it , instead of just playing in slashdot all day ) , I am open to a more open talk .
[ Gee , from what I wrote the above , it seems like if I only saw Linux---I actually value the other Unix-like operating systems as much ] .I guess that what I meant to say here is : " Talk is cheap .
Show me the code .
Do n't wish the death of what you may proudly use and not even know " .Regards , Rog   rio Brito .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(This message may be seen as inflammatory, but I assure you that it is just my opinion and not particularly anybody else---I don't speak for the projects on which I participate).Hi.I am not a developer of VLC, but I am part of the LAME team (that MP3 encoder that a good amount of people use).
I see similar problems regarding LAME as those described by the VLC team: lack of continuous power and resources.Some users just magically think that "oh, this program won't exist anymore, so let's use this other one".
The sad thing here is that they are shortsighted in the fact that they, by doing nothing (just receiving the programs), are not giving the incentive for the projects.What about if the proposed alternative dies a few days from now?
The amount of alternatives is finite.Not only that, but the major players out there all share the same codebase: there are "incestuous" (in a good sene of the word) relations with VLC, xine, and mplayer: the all use, to some extent or another (well, in some cases, to the full extent) some common libraries: ffmpeg, libmp3lame, theora, vorbis, dirac, x264 and so on.Usually, also, the players also send some feedback to the people writing the libraries and, without them, the libraries would not be as good as they are.
And the feedback that developers provide is, not infrequently, in form of patches, or constructive suggestions.
Some users, like the one above, just cares less and, honestly, where would you just "grab the extra codec" if they all, come, essentially, from the first place?If you didn't know, perhaps it is a good reminder to put here that people from the VLC project developed the nice libdvdcss library, which benefited xine and mplayer, while people in the other projects have directly or indirectly benefited the others.I would not like to have the "Linux desktop" mainstream with a "community" with a person that doesn't want a community.
For people that are more altruistic (and that show it, instead of just playing in slashdot all day), I am open to a more open talk.
[Gee, from what I wrote the above, it seems like if I only saw Linux---I actually value the other Unix-like operating systems as much].I guess that what I meant to say here is: "Talk is cheap.
Show me the code.
Don't wish the death of what you may proudly use and not even know".Regards, Rogério Brito.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466286</id>
	<title>Re:user-friendly?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259670060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>YEAH!  I don't need the trail of porns to remain after I am done and asleep.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>YEAH !
I do n't need the trail of porns to remain after I am done and asleep .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>YEAH!
I don't need the trail of porns to remain after I am done and asleep.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:VLC is an amazing, gigantic success on OS X</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259668920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Are you really joking? VLC is the most successful open source project on Mac, forever. It even beats Firefox.</p><p>Here is a top sw downloads listing from absolutely general user focused download site: <a href="http://www.macupdate.com/popular/" title="macupdate.com">http://www.macupdate.com/popular/</a> [macupdate.com] </p><p>VLC has also become de-facto remote controlled Apple OS X software for iPhone/iPod users. Those are the true "walled garden" lovers/ignorers.</p><p>VLC should look at their community, IRC channel, developer public comments for why on earth their developer level dropped to zero with such amazing success.</p></div><p>Because "true Apple lovers" are mostly either multimedia designers, artists, writers or just ordinary users with more money than sense, and not down-in-the-trenches C/C++ developers? It will really be interesting to see how this story with VLC develops. I bet VLC would be even more successful on Mac if they charged $39.99 for it.</p><p>Actually, I think this would be a good point to make with the developers: create a "VLC Gold" edition for Mac, which will be basically the same with some fancy Apple-like UI tweak or just a logo change, and charge for it. This way development gets funded and people get the warm fuzzy feeling of actually buying something good.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Are you really joking ?
VLC is the most successful open source project on Mac , forever .
It even beats Firefox.Here is a top sw downloads listing from absolutely general user focused download site : http : //www.macupdate.com/popular/ [ macupdate.com ] VLC has also become de-facto remote controlled Apple OS X software for iPhone/iPod users .
Those are the true " walled garden " lovers/ignorers.VLC should look at their community , IRC channel , developer public comments for why on earth their developer level dropped to zero with such amazing success.Because " true Apple lovers " are mostly either multimedia designers , artists , writers or just ordinary users with more money than sense , and not down-in-the-trenches C/C + + developers ?
It will really be interesting to see how this story with VLC develops .
I bet VLC would be even more successful on Mac if they charged $ 39.99 for it.Actually , I think this would be a good point to make with the developers : create a " VLC Gold " edition for Mac , which will be basically the same with some fancy Apple-like UI tweak or just a logo change , and charge for it .
This way development gets funded and people get the warm fuzzy feeling of actually buying something good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you really joking?
VLC is the most successful open source project on Mac, forever.
It even beats Firefox.Here is a top sw downloads listing from absolutely general user focused download site: http://www.macupdate.com/popular/ [macupdate.com] VLC has also become de-facto remote controlled Apple OS X software for iPhone/iPod users.
Those are the true "walled garden" lovers/ignorers.VLC should look at their community, IRC channel, developer public comments for why on earth their developer level dropped to zero with such amazing success.Because "true Apple lovers" are mostly either multimedia designers, artists, writers or just ordinary users with more money than sense, and not down-in-the-trenches C/C++ developers?
It will really be interesting to see how this story with VLC develops.
I bet VLC would be even more successful on Mac if they charged $39.99 for it.Actually, I think this would be a good point to make with the developers: create a "VLC Gold" edition for Mac, which will be basically the same with some fancy Apple-like UI tweak or just a logo change, and charge for it.
This way development gets funded and people get the warm fuzzy feeling of actually buying something good.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466272</id>
	<title>Re:I'll help!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259670000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Check out</p><p><a href="http://www.videolan.org/developers/" title="videolan.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.videolan.org/developers/</a> [videolan.org]</p><p>I have dealt with the "previous" Mac developers, and they are nice, pleasant people.  As far as I understand, the Mac "port" of VLC is basically a Cocoa/Mac-goodness wrapper around libvlc, the library all the VL clients are based on.  libvlc is developed by a different team of volunteers, under the auspices of the VideoLan Project (like the VideoLan Clients are).  So you probably won't see too much video or audio processing as a VLC Mac developer unless you go out of your way to find some (or volunteer for the libvlc team too).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Check outhttp : //www.videolan.org/developers/ [ videolan.org ] I have dealt with the " previous " Mac developers , and they are nice , pleasant people .
As far as I understand , the Mac " port " of VLC is basically a Cocoa/Mac-goodness wrapper around libvlc , the library all the VL clients are based on .
libvlc is developed by a different team of volunteers , under the auspices of the VideoLan Project ( like the VideoLan Clients are ) .
So you probably wo n't see too much video or audio processing as a VLC Mac developer unless you go out of your way to find some ( or volunteer for the libvlc team too ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check outhttp://www.videolan.org/developers/ [videolan.org]I have dealt with the "previous" Mac developers, and they are nice, pleasant people.
As far as I understand, the Mac "port" of VLC is basically a Cocoa/Mac-goodness wrapper around libvlc, the library all the VL clients are based on.
libvlc is developed by a different team of volunteers, under the auspices of the VideoLan Project (like the VideoLan Clients are).
So you probably won't see too much video or audio processing as a VLC Mac developer unless you go out of your way to find some (or volunteer for the libvlc team too).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465208</id>
	<title>OS X needs VLC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259666400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think seeing VLC die on the Mac would do much more harm than the death of the Windows version. There is plenty of wonderful video programs that allow you to easily tweak what filters and codecs you use, and pretty much can support any codecs you want. MPC-HC comes to mind as the most versatile. VLC is still useful for formats that you don't use very much - like *.flv, or videos that may not work for whatever reason in another video program.</p><p>However, on the Mac, there are far fewer options. A few days ago, I attempted to setup a Windows share on OS X 10.6. Besides the fact that you can't easily add a shortcut to a share (you need to mount it which doesn't work if the machine isn't on) the default player for pretty much all videos files is Quicktime.</p><p>I'm pretty sure that everyone can agree that Quicktime is utter crap. It's similar to VLC in that it's pretty much monolithic in that it's supposed to include support for many formats, and it's not easy to add support for new formats. WMP, however, can use any Directshow filter. So can MPC-HC. Why is this a problem? Because Quicktime doesn't support ANYTHING and yet is the default for pretty much EVERYTHING.</p><p>- Can't play H.264 above Baseline. That means you can't play H.264 from a Blu-Ray/HD DVD or any (decent) x264 encodes. Pretty much limits you to iTunes downloads<br>- Can't play Xvid/Divx by default. I was shocked by this. It opens AVI's by default, but it just shows a black screen and won't play<br>- Doesn't support Matroska (MKV) file format which is now used on all HD videos and and higher-quality SD videos that either use x264, AAC, or AC3/DTS. Most AVI's are plain xvid/mp3.<br>- No easy way to add Xvid/Divx support. No Xvid codec for OS X that I could find. Installed 3vix (sp?) but it didn't work.</p><p>-----</p><p>As an aside, I tried setting up OS X to play MKV and AVI files over a Windows share a few days ago. This was my experience:</p><p>I couldn't get OS X to use VLC by default. Selecting "open with" VLC ALWAYS only works for that single file, not the file type, despite it saying so. Changing the settings in Quicktime to not play AVI's also did nothing.  In the end, I just told my roommate to use the  open with VLC option, as I gave up trying to get the Quicktime or the OS to do what I wanted. Couldn't get Quicktime to play XviD AVI's after installing the appropriate codec, and couldn't get OS X to play AVI's with VLC by default.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think seeing VLC die on the Mac would do much more harm than the death of the Windows version .
There is plenty of wonderful video programs that allow you to easily tweak what filters and codecs you use , and pretty much can support any codecs you want .
MPC-HC comes to mind as the most versatile .
VLC is still useful for formats that you do n't use very much - like * .flv , or videos that may not work for whatever reason in another video program.However , on the Mac , there are far fewer options .
A few days ago , I attempted to setup a Windows share on OS X 10.6 .
Besides the fact that you ca n't easily add a shortcut to a share ( you need to mount it which does n't work if the machine is n't on ) the default player for pretty much all videos files is Quicktime.I 'm pretty sure that everyone can agree that Quicktime is utter crap .
It 's similar to VLC in that it 's pretty much monolithic in that it 's supposed to include support for many formats , and it 's not easy to add support for new formats .
WMP , however , can use any Directshow filter .
So can MPC-HC .
Why is this a problem ?
Because Quicktime does n't support ANYTHING and yet is the default for pretty much EVERYTHING.- Ca n't play H.264 above Baseline .
That means you ca n't play H.264 from a Blu-Ray/HD DVD or any ( decent ) x264 encodes .
Pretty much limits you to iTunes downloads- Ca n't play Xvid/Divx by default .
I was shocked by this .
It opens AVI 's by default , but it just shows a black screen and wo n't play- Does n't support Matroska ( MKV ) file format which is now used on all HD videos and and higher-quality SD videos that either use x264 , AAC , or AC3/DTS .
Most AVI 's are plain xvid/mp3.- No easy way to add Xvid/Divx support .
No Xvid codec for OS X that I could find .
Installed 3vix ( sp ?
) but it did n't work.-----As an aside , I tried setting up OS X to play MKV and AVI files over a Windows share a few days ago .
This was my experience : I could n't get OS X to use VLC by default .
Selecting " open with " VLC ALWAYS only works for that single file , not the file type , despite it saying so .
Changing the settings in Quicktime to not play AVI 's also did nothing .
In the end , I just told my roommate to use the open with VLC option , as I gave up trying to get the Quicktime or the OS to do what I wanted .
Could n't get Quicktime to play XviD AVI 's after installing the appropriate codec , and could n't get OS X to play AVI 's with VLC by default .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think seeing VLC die on the Mac would do much more harm than the death of the Windows version.
There is plenty of wonderful video programs that allow you to easily tweak what filters and codecs you use, and pretty much can support any codecs you want.
MPC-HC comes to mind as the most versatile.
VLC is still useful for formats that you don't use very much - like *.flv, or videos that may not work for whatever reason in another video program.However, on the Mac, there are far fewer options.
A few days ago, I attempted to setup a Windows share on OS X 10.6.
Besides the fact that you can't easily add a shortcut to a share (you need to mount it which doesn't work if the machine isn't on) the default player for pretty much all videos files is Quicktime.I'm pretty sure that everyone can agree that Quicktime is utter crap.
It's similar to VLC in that it's pretty much monolithic in that it's supposed to include support for many formats, and it's not easy to add support for new formats.
WMP, however, can use any Directshow filter.
So can MPC-HC.
Why is this a problem?
Because Quicktime doesn't support ANYTHING and yet is the default for pretty much EVERYTHING.- Can't play H.264 above Baseline.
That means you can't play H.264 from a Blu-Ray/HD DVD or any (decent) x264 encodes.
Pretty much limits you to iTunes downloads- Can't play Xvid/Divx by default.
I was shocked by this.
It opens AVI's by default, but it just shows a black screen and won't play- Doesn't support Matroska (MKV) file format which is now used on all HD videos and and higher-quality SD videos that either use x264, AAC, or AC3/DTS.
Most AVI's are plain xvid/mp3.- No easy way to add Xvid/Divx support.
No Xvid codec for OS X that I could find.
Installed 3vix (sp?
) but it didn't work.-----As an aside, I tried setting up OS X to play MKV and AVI files over a Windows share a few days ago.
This was my experience:I couldn't get OS X to use VLC by default.
Selecting "open with" VLC ALWAYS only works for that single file, not the file type, despite it saying so.
Changing the settings in Quicktime to not play AVI's also did nothing.
In the end, I just told my roommate to use the  open with VLC option, as I gave up trying to get the Quicktime or the OS to do what I wanted.
Couldn't get Quicktime to play XviD AVI's after installing the appropriate codec, and couldn't get OS X to play AVI's with VLC by default.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:This would be a great loss</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259677860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Blasphemer! Apple's player is preventing the rogue, faithless DVDs from defiling the sacrosanctity of your Mac which is blessed by Steve personally. But Steve's mercy is great and He shall forgive and bless your family you if you repent and purchase the indulgence^W^W a new Mac..</htmltext>
<tokenext>Blasphemer !
Apple 's player is preventing the rogue , faithless DVDs from defiling the sacrosanctity of your Mac which is blessed by Steve personally .
But Steve 's mercy is great and He shall forgive and bless your family you if you repent and purchase the indulgence ^ W ^ W a new Mac. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Blasphemer!
Apple's player is preventing the rogue, faithless DVDs from defiling the sacrosanctity of your Mac which is blessed by Steve personally.
But Steve's mercy is great and He shall forgive and bless your family you if you repent and purchase the indulgence^W^W a new Mac..</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:A different view from a developer</title>
	<author>FictionPimp</author>
	<datestamp>1259678040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would be glad to help, but sadly I have no experience developing multimedia applications and jumping into would likely result in a big waste of time for all involved.

If they just need someone to compile in xcode and bug test, I'm all over it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would be glad to help , but sadly I have no experience developing multimedia applications and jumping into would likely result in a big waste of time for all involved .
If they just need someone to compile in xcode and bug test , I 'm all over it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would be glad to help, but sadly I have no experience developing multimedia applications and jumping into would likely result in a big waste of time for all involved.
If they just need someone to compile in xcode and bug test, I'm all over it.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:A different view from a developer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261046520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I imagine the issue is largely cultural.  Windows and Mac OS X don't particularly inspire open source developers since they are not themselves open source.  Windows still gets considerable open source love for various reasons, mostly stemming from market share, but also Microsoft only releases commercial software, never crippleware.  Apple otoh has always inspired crippleware developers by releasing crippleware themselves, ala Quicktime, and recently created their iPhone App Store.  Is it any wonder open source developers are rare under Mac OS X?</p><p>I cannot RtFA since videolan.org is toast now, but I'd imagine the X11 version will still largely support Mac OS X.  I've not use mplayer recently but VLC supports vastly more formats than competing native Mac OS X products.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I imagine the issue is largely cultural .
Windows and Mac OS X do n't particularly inspire open source developers since they are not themselves open source .
Windows still gets considerable open source love for various reasons , mostly stemming from market share , but also Microsoft only releases commercial software , never crippleware .
Apple otoh has always inspired crippleware developers by releasing crippleware themselves , ala Quicktime , and recently created their iPhone App Store .
Is it any wonder open source developers are rare under Mac OS X ? I can not RtFA since videolan.org is toast now , but I 'd imagine the X11 version will still largely support Mac OS X. I 've not use mplayer recently but VLC supports vastly more formats than competing native Mac OS X products .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I imagine the issue is largely cultural.
Windows and Mac OS X don't particularly inspire open source developers since they are not themselves open source.
Windows still gets considerable open source love for various reasons, mostly stemming from market share, but also Microsoft only releases commercial software, never crippleware.
Apple otoh has always inspired crippleware developers by releasing crippleware themselves, ala Quicktime, and recently created their iPhone App Store.
Is it any wonder open source developers are rare under Mac OS X?I cannot RtFA since videolan.org is toast now, but I'd imagine the X11 version will still largely support Mac OS X.  I've not use mplayer recently but VLC supports vastly more formats than competing native Mac OS X products.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30465032</id>
	<title>Perhaps because of Perian?</title>
	<author>Psyborgue</author>
	<datestamp>1259665860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why use VLC as a player when <a href="http://perian.org/#detail" title="perian.org">Perian</a> [perian.org] installs codecs that allow quicktime player (or any quicktime based app) to play back anything VLC will.  It's basically ffdshow for mac.  I rarely use VLC anymore for that reason.  Quicktime player just feels more lightweight as it starts up faster.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why use VLC as a player when Perian [ perian.org ] installs codecs that allow quicktime player ( or any quicktime based app ) to play back anything VLC will .
It 's basically ffdshow for mac .
I rarely use VLC anymore for that reason .
Quicktime player just feels more lightweight as it starts up faster .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why use VLC as a player when Perian [perian.org] installs codecs that allow quicktime player (or any quicktime based app) to play back anything VLC will.
It's basically ffdshow for mac.
I rarely use VLC anymore for that reason.
Quicktime player just feels more lightweight as it starts up faster.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30466238</id>
	<title>Re:OS X needs VLC</title>
	<author>joost</author>
	<datestamp>1259669880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>No easy way to add Xvid/Divx support. No Xvid codec for OS X that I could find.</p></div></blockquote><p><a href="http://perian.org/" title="perian.org" rel="nofollow">Perian</a> [perian.org].</p></div>
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<tokenext>No easy way to add Xvid/Divx support .
No Xvid codec for OS X that I could find.Perian [ perian.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No easy way to add Xvid/Divx support.
No Xvid codec for OS X that I could find.Perian [perian.org].
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30464844</id>
	<title>Handbrake</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1259665260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's remember that Handbrake uses VLC for video decoding. No more VLC = no more handbrake.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's remember that Handbrake uses VLC for video decoding .
No more VLC = no more handbrake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's remember that Handbrake uses VLC for video decoding.
No more VLC = no more handbrake.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_2145251.30468506</id>
	<title>Re:Oh fuck no</title>
	<author>Psyborgue</author>
	<datestamp>1259684040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Whenever I do that iTunes spits out something like "We're gonna go ahead and index everything in folders the way we want anyway, since we run this bitch and you better recognize."
</p><p>
Sarcasm aside, when you're transferring &gt;100GB of music iTunes sucks balls. Also the overhead of iTunes makes it pretty annoying when you just want to pop a file to preview real quick,</p></div><p>Step one: <em>select file in finder</em> <br> <br>

Step two: <em>press space bar</em> to play file in the built in preview.  This works with any media quicktime can play, images, pdf files, etc...  Over a network or locally.  You can also use finder's cover flow view to preview audio/video files by simply clicking the big play button.  If you really want to you can still open the file for preview in quicktime but what's the point?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>or watch a DVD without all the fucking waiting and protection bullshit.</p></div><p>iTunes does not play DVDs.  It'll play rips just dandy, though, provided you rip to something quicktime can use, which with <a href="http://perian.org/#detail" title="perian.org">Perian is pretty much everything</a> [perian.org].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whenever I do that iTunes spits out something like " We 're gon na go ahead and index everything in folders the way we want anyway , since we run this bitch and you better recognize .
" Sarcasm aside , when you 're transferring &gt; 100GB of music iTunes sucks balls .
Also the overhead of iTunes makes it pretty annoying when you just want to pop a file to preview real quick,Step one : select file in finder Step two : press space bar to play file in the built in preview .
This works with any media quicktime can play , images , pdf files , etc... Over a network or locally .
You can also use finder 's cover flow view to preview audio/video files by simply clicking the big play button .
If you really want to you can still open the file for preview in quicktime but what 's the point ? or watch a DVD without all the fucking waiting and protection bullshit.iTunes does not play DVDs .
It 'll play rips just dandy , though , provided you rip to something quicktime can use , which with Perian is pretty much everything [ perian.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whenever I do that iTunes spits out something like "We're gonna go ahead and index everything in folders the way we want anyway, since we run this bitch and you better recognize.
"

Sarcasm aside, when you're transferring &gt;100GB of music iTunes sucks balls.
Also the overhead of iTunes makes it pretty annoying when you just want to pop a file to preview real quick,Step one: select file in finder  

Step two: press space bar to play file in the built in preview.
This works with any media quicktime can play, images, pdf files, etc...  Over a network or locally.
You can also use finder's cover flow view to preview audio/video files by simply clicking the big play button.
If you really want to you can still open the file for preview in quicktime but what's the point?or watch a DVD without all the fucking waiting and protection bullshit.iTunes does not play DVDs.
It'll play rips just dandy, though, provided you rip to something quicktime can use, which with Perian is pretty much everything [perian.org].
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