<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_15_2037250</id>
	<title>Swiss Geologist On Trial For Causing Earthquakes</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1260867300000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://hughpickens.com/slashdot/" rel="nofollow">Hugh Pickens</a> writes <i>"BBC reports that Markus Haering's company had been working with the authorities in Basel, Switzerland to try to convert the heat in deep-seated rocks into electricity, but the project was suspended in 2006 when <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8414795.stm">drilling triggered earthquakes, one of them with a magnitude of 3.4</a>, leading Haering's company to pay out $9M in damages. Haering's team planned to drill a series of holes penetrating up to 3 miles (4.8 km) underground with water being pumped onto rocks with a temperature of more than 195C. Basel's location on top of a fault line &ndash; the upper Rhine trench &ndash; had been deliberately chosen because the heat was closer to the Earth's surface. A risk assessment has since shown that the prospect of further quakes is too high to continue drilling in the city. Haering faces up to five years in prison if the judge finds he intentionally damaged property. Haering has admitted the 3.4 magnitude earthquake was stronger than he had expected and that his team 'had very little knowledge of seismicity' before starting to drill, but <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/15/swiss-geothermal-power-earthquakes-basel">called the quakes 'a learning process for everyone involved.'</a> Despite Haering's trial, the Swiss appetite for geothermal projects has not diminished. Engineers are beginning preliminary drilling in Zurich to see whether that area was suitable for a similar scheme, and St. Gallen, in eastern Switzerland, plans to start work on its own geothermal project next year. Drilling efforts are being closely watched in the US, where the <a href="http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news\_view&amp;newsId=20091214005242&amp;newsLang=en">energy department is sponsoring more than 120 geothermal energy projects</a> in several states."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hugh Pickens writes " BBC reports that Markus Haering 's company had been working with the authorities in Basel , Switzerland to try to convert the heat in deep-seated rocks into electricity , but the project was suspended in 2006 when drilling triggered earthquakes , one of them with a magnitude of 3.4 , leading Haering 's company to pay out $ 9M in damages .
Haering 's team planned to drill a series of holes penetrating up to 3 miles ( 4.8 km ) underground with water being pumped onto rocks with a temperature of more than 195C .
Basel 's location on top of a fault line    the upper Rhine trench    had been deliberately chosen because the heat was closer to the Earth 's surface .
A risk assessment has since shown that the prospect of further quakes is too high to continue drilling in the city .
Haering faces up to five years in prison if the judge finds he intentionally damaged property .
Haering has admitted the 3.4 magnitude earthquake was stronger than he had expected and that his team 'had very little knowledge of seismicity ' before starting to drill , but called the quakes 'a learning process for everyone involved .
' Despite Haering 's trial , the Swiss appetite for geothermal projects has not diminished .
Engineers are beginning preliminary drilling in Zurich to see whether that area was suitable for a similar scheme , and St. Gallen , in eastern Switzerland , plans to start work on its own geothermal project next year .
Drilling efforts are being closely watched in the US , where the energy department is sponsoring more than 120 geothermal energy projects in several states .
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<sentencetext>Hugh Pickens writes "BBC reports that Markus Haering's company had been working with the authorities in Basel, Switzerland to try to convert the heat in deep-seated rocks into electricity, but the project was suspended in 2006 when drilling triggered earthquakes, one of them with a magnitude of 3.4, leading Haering's company to pay out $9M in damages.
Haering's team planned to drill a series of holes penetrating up to 3 miles (4.8 km) underground with water being pumped onto rocks with a temperature of more than 195C.
Basel's location on top of a fault line – the upper Rhine trench – had been deliberately chosen because the heat was closer to the Earth's surface.
A risk assessment has since shown that the prospect of further quakes is too high to continue drilling in the city.
Haering faces up to five years in prison if the judge finds he intentionally damaged property.
Haering has admitted the 3.4 magnitude earthquake was stronger than he had expected and that his team 'had very little knowledge of seismicity' before starting to drill, but called the quakes 'a learning process for everyone involved.
' Despite Haering's trial, the Swiss appetite for geothermal projects has not diminished.
Engineers are beginning preliminary drilling in Zurich to see whether that area was suitable for a similar scheme, and St. Gallen, in eastern Switzerland, plans to start work on its own geothermal project next year.
Drilling efforts are being closely watched in the US, where the energy department is sponsoring more than 120 geothermal energy projects in several states.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453756</id>
	<title>Re:impossible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260895680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>You can't "cause" an earthquake. They are caused by tectonic pressure. You may be able to adjust the timing of one, though.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>When the reservoir behind Hoover Dam filled up it caused several small earthquakes because of the increasing weight of the water in the reservoir.  Although I do concede your point with respect to this quake.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't " cause " an earthquake .
They are caused by tectonic pressure .
You may be able to adjust the timing of one , though .
When the reservoir behind Hoover Dam filled up it caused several small earthquakes because of the increasing weight of the water in the reservoir .
Although I do concede your point with respect to this quake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't "cause" an earthquake.
They are caused by tectonic pressure.
You may be able to adjust the timing of one, though.
When the reservoir behind Hoover Dam filled up it caused several small earthquakes because of the increasing weight of the water in the reservoir.
Although I do concede your point with respect to this quake.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30458774</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1259687400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to agree, anyone living in California usually gets so used to anything below 4.0, it does not even register any news.<br>If any damages occur, it is the person's fault for not properly preparing for the event, as it is now a common daily event over there. The fact that they are saying 9millino in damages, I would say either a lot was downplayed by their gov. and hidden and need some payback for doing this, or he is getting scammed by politicians hoping to pocket a lot of the money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to agree , anyone living in California usually gets so used to anything below 4.0 , it does not even register any news.If any damages occur , it is the person 's fault for not properly preparing for the event , as it is now a common daily event over there .
The fact that they are saying 9millino in damages , I would say either a lot was downplayed by their gov .
and hidden and need some payback for doing this , or he is getting scammed by politicians hoping to pocket a lot of the money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to agree, anyone living in California usually gets so used to anything below 4.0, it does not even register any news.If any damages occur, it is the person's fault for not properly preparing for the event, as it is now a common daily event over there.
The fact that they are saying 9millino in damages, I would say either a lot was downplayed by their gov.
and hidden and need some payback for doing this, or he is getting scammed by politicians hoping to pocket a lot of the money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450592</id>
	<title>Re:Here we go...</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1260874680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I doubt the geologist is at fault.</p></div><p>Yeah, but he one the one who caused a rift in the community.</p><p>*ducks*</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt the geologist is at fault.Yeah , but he one the one who caused a rift in the community .
* ducks *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt the geologist is at fault.Yeah, but he one the one who caused a rift in the community.
*ducks*
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451264</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>techno-vampire</author>
	<datestamp>1260877620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>I can say with some authority that any structure built in a tectonically active region that cannot safely handle a 3.4 magnitude earthquake was built improperly.</i> <p>
I live in Southern California, near Los Angeles.  Around here, at least, magnitude 3.4 quakes are hardly worth mentioning.  Instead of fining this company, the city should thank them for the object lesson they provided about why you don't ignore well-known earthquake safety techniques when you're building over or near a fault line.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can say with some authority that any structure built in a tectonically active region that can not safely handle a 3.4 magnitude earthquake was built improperly .
I live in Southern California , near Los Angeles .
Around here , at least , magnitude 3.4 quakes are hardly worth mentioning .
Instead of fining this company , the city should thank them for the object lesson they provided about why you do n't ignore well-known earthquake safety techniques when you 're building over or near a fault line .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can say with some authority that any structure built in a tectonically active region that cannot safely handle a 3.4 magnitude earthquake was built improperly.
I live in Southern California, near Los Angeles.
Around here, at least, magnitude 3.4 quakes are hardly worth mentioning.
Instead of fining this company, the city should thank them for the object lesson they provided about why you don't ignore well-known earthquake safety techniques when you're building over or near a fault line.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450190</id>
	<title>It had to happen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260873180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Swiss guy making holes were there shouldn't be any holes. Typical.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Swiss guy making holes were there should n't be any holes .
Typical .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Swiss guy making holes were there shouldn't be any holes.
Typical.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30457556</id>
	<title>cribster</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259682900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder how much more heat trapping water vapor all these new geothermal plants are spewing?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how much more heat trapping water vapor all these new geothermal plants are spewing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how much more heat trapping water vapor all these new geothermal plants are spewing?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30457486</id>
	<title>Re:impossible</title>
	<author>chord.wav</author>
	<datestamp>1259682540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly my thought. Same way ski centers have avalanche control teams that throw charges in strategic places to create "tiny" avalanches to prevent a huge one. Same practice is used to control fires in national parks, they do controlled fires to prevent big, unstoppable, fires.</p><p>He probably saved many lives.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly my thought .
Same way ski centers have avalanche control teams that throw charges in strategic places to create " tiny " avalanches to prevent a huge one .
Same practice is used to control fires in national parks , they do controlled fires to prevent big , unstoppable , fires.He probably saved many lives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly my thought.
Same way ski centers have avalanche control teams that throw charges in strategic places to create "tiny" avalanches to prevent a huge one.
Same practice is used to control fires in national parks, they do controlled fires to prevent big, unstoppable, fires.He probably saved many lives.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449962</id>
	<title>Obviously not an expert, maybe ex pert?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260872280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This has all happened before and apparently will happen again:</p><p><a href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/lr247770l2272741/" title="springerlink.com">http://www.springerlink.com/content/lr247770l2272741/</a> [springerlink.com]</p><p>I recall these earthquakes were triggered by chemical weapon disposal, same plot though, dig a big deep hole and put liquid in.....<br>]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This has all happened before and apparently will happen again : http : //www.springerlink.com/content/lr247770l2272741/ [ springerlink.com ] I recall these earthquakes were triggered by chemical weapon disposal , same plot though , dig a big deep hole and put liquid in..... ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This has all happened before and apparently will happen again:http://www.springerlink.com/content/lr247770l2272741/ [springerlink.com]I recall these earthquakes were triggered by chemical weapon disposal, same plot though, dig a big deep hole and put liquid in.....]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451778</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1260880080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I don't know how severe a 3.4 quake is, maybe it really is inconsequential</i></p><p>FEMA (for kids! Sorry it was the quickest result on Google) sez that earthquakes below about 4.3 on the Richter scale cause "no damage": <a href="http://www.fema.gov/kids/intense.htm" title="fema.gov">http://www.fema.gov/kids/intense.htm</a> [fema.gov] Remember, it's a logarithmic scale, so a 3.4 is almost 1/10th as destructive as a 4.3.</p><p>I honestly believe that an 18-wheeler or tour bus passing in front of my house would cause significantly more shaking than a 3.4 quake. I don't have a seismometer in my house to prove it, alas.</p><p><i>(Far from villagers, too, BTW)</i></p><p>Yes, yes, I apologize for my ignorance of geography. But my point remains, and is valid-- these people are scamming the poor guy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know how severe a 3.4 quake is , maybe it really is inconsequentialFEMA ( for kids !
Sorry it was the quickest result on Google ) sez that earthquakes below about 4.3 on the Richter scale cause " no damage " : http : //www.fema.gov/kids/intense.htm [ fema.gov ] Remember , it 's a logarithmic scale , so a 3.4 is almost 1/10th as destructive as a 4.3.I honestly believe that an 18-wheeler or tour bus passing in front of my house would cause significantly more shaking than a 3.4 quake .
I do n't have a seismometer in my house to prove it , alas .
( Far from villagers , too , BTW ) Yes , yes , I apologize for my ignorance of geography .
But my point remains , and is valid-- these people are scamming the poor guy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know how severe a 3.4 quake is, maybe it really is inconsequentialFEMA (for kids!
Sorry it was the quickest result on Google) sez that earthquakes below about 4.3 on the Richter scale cause "no damage": http://www.fema.gov/kids/intense.htm [fema.gov] Remember, it's a logarithmic scale, so a 3.4 is almost 1/10th as destructive as a 4.3.I honestly believe that an 18-wheeler or tour bus passing in front of my house would cause significantly more shaking than a 3.4 quake.
I don't have a seismometer in my house to prove it, alas.
(Far from villagers, too, BTW)Yes, yes, I apologize for my ignorance of geography.
But my point remains, and is valid-- these people are scamming the poor guy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449656</id>
	<title>Blahgh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260871080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, gotta break a few eggs (and dishes) to make an omelet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , got ta break a few eggs ( and dishes ) to make an omelet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, gotta break a few eggs (and dishes) to make an omelet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449872</id>
	<title>Eggshell defense</title>
	<author>SuperBanana</author>
	<datestamp>1260871920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>These villagers were scamming the poor guy. $9 million in damages from a *3.4* quake? Cripes, a bus crossing in front of my house is close to 3.4... either their houses are made from eggshells, or this is the scam of the century.</i>

</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggshell\_skull

</p><p>Translation/application: if you demonstrate negligence and cause an earthquake, even if everyone's houses are made of chewing gum and paper- you're responsible for the damage, because had you not done what you did, the damage wouldn't have happened.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These villagers were scamming the poor guy .
$ 9 million in damages from a * 3.4 * quake ?
Cripes , a bus crossing in front of my house is close to 3.4... either their houses are made from eggshells , or this is the scam of the century .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggshell \ _skull Translation/application : if you demonstrate negligence and cause an earthquake , even if everyone 's houses are made of chewing gum and paper- you 're responsible for the damage , because had you not done what you did , the damage would n't have happened .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> These villagers were scamming the poor guy.
$9 million in damages from a *3.4* quake?
Cripes, a bus crossing in front of my house is close to 3.4... either their houses are made from eggshells, or this is the scam of the century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggshell\_skull

Translation/application: if you demonstrate negligence and cause an earthquake, even if everyone's houses are made of chewing gum and paper- you're responsible for the damage, because had you not done what you did, the damage wouldn't have happened.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453852</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>budgenator</author>
	<datestamp>1260896820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In fairness it was a magnitude 3.4, the amplitudes in one of those can be confused with a semi-truck going 35 MPH hitting a pothole in front of your house. 3.4 earthquakes are <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter\_magnitude\_scale#Richter\_magnitudes" title="wikipedia.org"> described as minor and Often felt, but rarely causes damage.</a> [wikipedia.org] I've never been to Switzerland but if they build like the Germans it's homes built out of mortared bricks without reinforcing and more more susceptible to seismic damage than would be expected by North Americans.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In fairness it was a magnitude 3.4 , the amplitudes in one of those can be confused with a semi-truck going 35 MPH hitting a pothole in front of your house .
3.4 earthquakes are described as minor and Often felt , but rarely causes damage .
[ wikipedia.org ] I 've never been to Switzerland but if they build like the Germans it 's homes built out of mortared bricks without reinforcing and more more susceptible to seismic damage than would be expected by North Americans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In fairness it was a magnitude 3.4, the amplitudes in one of those can be confused with a semi-truck going 35 MPH hitting a pothole in front of your house.
3.4 earthquakes are  described as minor and Often felt, but rarely causes damage.
[wikipedia.org] I've never been to Switzerland but if they build like the Germans it's homes built out of mortared bricks without reinforcing and more more susceptible to seismic damage than would be expected by North Americans.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453682</id>
	<title>Re:can we go after natural gas companies, too?</title>
	<author>Mspangler</author>
	<datestamp>1260895080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Does a 1-in-600 chance of getting bladder cancer sound "safe" to you?"</p><p>Over what time interval? Given there is a 100\% chance of death in the grand overview, a 1 in 600 chance of death from bladder cancer by 80 years old compared with a the 1 in 3 chance of death from cancer in general is not that large.</p><p>Given the cost of arsenic removal to the ppb level, one has to ask is that cost the best use of available public health dollars? Or would more people be healthier by spending the money elsewhere? At some point we are spending ever more money to remove ever smaller risks. Look at the amount of arsenic in shellfish, and yet they are not being banned. I used to work a a mine that had an arsenic-rich ore. When we went in for our annual blood work for arsenic and other heavy metals, we got a note saying "eat no shellfish for the week preceding the test, or the blood results may come in high".</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Does a 1-in-600 chance of getting bladder cancer sound " safe " to you ?
" Over what time interval ?
Given there is a 100 \ % chance of death in the grand overview , a 1 in 600 chance of death from bladder cancer by 80 years old compared with a the 1 in 3 chance of death from cancer in general is not that large.Given the cost of arsenic removal to the ppb level , one has to ask is that cost the best use of available public health dollars ?
Or would more people be healthier by spending the money elsewhere ?
At some point we are spending ever more money to remove ever smaller risks .
Look at the amount of arsenic in shellfish , and yet they are not being banned .
I used to work a a mine that had an arsenic-rich ore. When we went in for our annual blood work for arsenic and other heavy metals , we got a note saying " eat no shellfish for the week preceding the test , or the blood results may come in high " .
     </tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Does a 1-in-600 chance of getting bladder cancer sound "safe" to you?
"Over what time interval?
Given there is a 100\% chance of death in the grand overview, a 1 in 600 chance of death from bladder cancer by 80 years old compared with a the 1 in 3 chance of death from cancer in general is not that large.Given the cost of arsenic removal to the ppb level, one has to ask is that cost the best use of available public health dollars?
Or would more people be healthier by spending the money elsewhere?
At some point we are spending ever more money to remove ever smaller risks.
Look at the amount of arsenic in shellfish, and yet they are not being banned.
I used to work a a mine that had an arsenic-rich ore. When we went in for our annual blood work for arsenic and other heavy metals, we got a note saying "eat no shellfish for the week preceding the test, or the blood results may come in high".
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30454102</id>
	<title>Re:Eggshell defense</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260899820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So now you just have to prove that he DID cause the earthquake.</p><p>The stupidity involved in living ON a fault line is really staggering.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So now you just have to prove that he DID cause the earthquake.The stupidity involved in living ON a fault line is really staggering .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So now you just have to prove that he DID cause the earthquake.The stupidity involved in living ON a fault line is really staggering.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30463004</id>
	<title>Re:impossible</title>
	<author>Duggeek</author>
	<datestamp>1259658840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>[...by drilling,] you may be able to adjust the timing of [an earthquake].</p><p>Perhaps this man's 3.4 quake actually <b>saved</b> the village from having a 4.0 quake a few years later! Did anyone think of that? Perhaps they should be giving him a medal.</p></div><p>So, by that logic, perhaps you recommend that he work in <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/12/15/1545200/Yellowstone-Supervolcano-Larger-Than-First-Thought" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Yellowstone National Park</a> [slashdot.org] to save the western United States from catastrophe? While he's at it, he'll be given presidential recognition for tapping perhaps the largest reserve of geothermic energy in the world. Only problem is, it will be at the expense of national preserved land.</p><p>I wonder, could we justify that kind of sacrifice, or is the National Parks Association so myopic as to prevent the progress of Energy Independence?</p><p>Making the state of Wyoming the center of renewable energy production would certainly &ldquo;change the map.&rdquo;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ ...by drilling , ] you may be able to adjust the timing of [ an earthquake ] .Perhaps this man 's 3.4 quake actually saved the village from having a 4.0 quake a few years later !
Did anyone think of that ?
Perhaps they should be giving him a medal.So , by that logic , perhaps you recommend that he work in Yellowstone National Park [ slashdot.org ] to save the western United States from catastrophe ?
While he 's at it , he 'll be given presidential recognition for tapping perhaps the largest reserve of geothermic energy in the world .
Only problem is , it will be at the expense of national preserved land.I wonder , could we justify that kind of sacrifice , or is the National Parks Association so myopic as to prevent the progress of Energy Independence ? Making the state of Wyoming the center of renewable energy production would certainly    change the map.   </tokentext>
<sentencetext>[...by drilling,] you may be able to adjust the timing of [an earthquake].Perhaps this man's 3.4 quake actually saved the village from having a 4.0 quake a few years later!
Did anyone think of that?
Perhaps they should be giving him a medal.So, by that logic, perhaps you recommend that he work in Yellowstone National Park [slashdot.org] to save the western United States from catastrophe?
While he's at it, he'll be given presidential recognition for tapping perhaps the largest reserve of geothermic energy in the world.
Only problem is, it will be at the expense of national preserved land.I wonder, could we justify that kind of sacrifice, or is the National Parks Association so myopic as to prevent the progress of Energy Independence?Making the state of Wyoming the center of renewable energy production would certainly “change the map.”
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451170</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451172</id>
	<title>Gnomes of Zurich ...</title>
	<author>deprecated</author>
	<datestamp>1260877200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... delved too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... delved too greedily and too deep .
You know what they awoke in the darkness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... delved too greedily and too deep.
You know what they awoke in the darkness.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451952</id>
	<title>Re:US project shut down</title>
	<author>mobby\_6kl</author>
	<datestamp>1260881160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Come on, go easy on them. They were probably only trying to split off and sink California in the ocean. Nothing wrong with that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Come on , go easy on them .
They were probably only trying to split off and sink California in the ocean .
Nothing wrong with that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Come on, go easy on them.
They were probably only trying to split off and sink California in the ocean.
Nothing wrong with that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449764</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449674</id>
	<title>Here we go...</title>
	<author>Philotic</author>
	<datestamp>1260871140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I doubt the geologist is at fault.  However, his defense rests on really shaky ground.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt the geologist is at fault .
However , his defense rests on really shaky ground .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt the geologist is at fault.
However, his defense rests on really shaky ground.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450070</id>
	<title>Is he a transformer?</title>
	<author>GodfatherofSoul</author>
	<datestamp>1260872760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unless his name is 'Rumble,' and he popped out of a walkman I don't see how this is possible.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless his name is 'Rumble, ' and he popped out of a walkman I do n't see how this is possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless his name is 'Rumble,' and he popped out of a walkman I don't see how this is possible.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450014</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>Rei</author>
	<datestamp>1260872580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Basel is EGS's "Altamont Pass".  Altamont Pass was a wind farm that gave wind turbines their (undeserved) reputation as being bird killers.  They built a wind farm right in the middle of a bird flyway, using low, fast-spinning turbines.  It was a learning experience; nobody would be stupid enough to do that again.</p><p>It's the same thing with EGS and earthquakes.  In Basel, they deliberately fractured an active fault that had previously destroyed the city.  Nobody is going to be dumb enough to do that again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Basel is EGS 's " Altamont Pass " .
Altamont Pass was a wind farm that gave wind turbines their ( undeserved ) reputation as being bird killers .
They built a wind farm right in the middle of a bird flyway , using low , fast-spinning turbines .
It was a learning experience ; nobody would be stupid enough to do that again.It 's the same thing with EGS and earthquakes .
In Basel , they deliberately fractured an active fault that had previously destroyed the city .
Nobody is going to be dumb enough to do that again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Basel is EGS's "Altamont Pass".
Altamont Pass was a wind farm that gave wind turbines their (undeserved) reputation as being bird killers.
They built a wind farm right in the middle of a bird flyway, using low, fast-spinning turbines.
It was a learning experience; nobody would be stupid enough to do that again.It's the same thing with EGS and earthquakes.
In Basel, they deliberately fractured an active fault that had previously destroyed the city.
Nobody is going to be dumb enough to do that again.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449656</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450504</id>
	<title>well</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260874380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who would have thought that Basel was faulty. Still 3.4 magnitude doesn't seem a lot (assuming Richter scale) so if they had damage it must have been Faulty Towers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who would have thought that Basel was faulty .
Still 3.4 magnitude does n't seem a lot ( assuming Richter scale ) so if they had damage it must have been Faulty Towers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who would have thought that Basel was faulty.
Still 3.4 magnitude doesn't seem a lot (assuming Richter scale) so if they had damage it must have been Faulty Towers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450080</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>NeutronCowboy</author>
	<datestamp>1260872760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to mention that we can't predict when an earthquake will strike or what magnitude it will be. Yet here they are, claiming that he willfully damaged property? I can't even fathom reckless disregard for safety in this context, but willful destruction? Can I sue palmreaders for willful damage of my self-esteem?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention that we ca n't predict when an earthquake will strike or what magnitude it will be .
Yet here they are , claiming that he willfully damaged property ?
I ca n't even fathom reckless disregard for safety in this context , but willful destruction ?
Can I sue palmreaders for willful damage of my self-esteem ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention that we can't predict when an earthquake will strike or what magnitude it will be.
Yet here they are, claiming that he willfully damaged property?
I can't even fathom reckless disregard for safety in this context, but willful destruction?
Can I sue palmreaders for willful damage of my self-esteem?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449696</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30452092</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>Runaway1956</author>
	<datestamp>1260881880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Albert Einstein</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only two things are infinite , the universe and human stupidity , and I 'm not sure about the former .
        Albert Einstein</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
        Albert Einstein</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450014</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30456450</id>
	<title>Re:Eggshell defense</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259676360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That may be true for personal attacks, but I don't think so for property. Wouldn't that be an incentive to build houses with paper tissue? Build cheap, sue for profit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That may be true for personal attacks , but I do n't think so for property .
Would n't that be an incentive to build houses with paper tissue ?
Build cheap , sue for profit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That may be true for personal attacks, but I don't think so for property.
Wouldn't that be an incentive to build houses with paper tissue?
Build cheap, sue for profit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449872</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450116</id>
	<title>Re:Eggshell defense</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260872940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Translation/application: if you demonstrate negligence and cause an earthquake, even if everyone's houses are made of chewing gum and paper</p></div></blockquote><p>FWIW, I'd bet a well-designed chewing-gum-and-paper house is more earthquake resistant than some of the concrete-steel-and-wood houses.  At the very least, it'd be cheaper to build, assuming a a very large army of gum chewers, thus resulting in reduced liability for damages.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Translation/application : if you demonstrate negligence and cause an earthquake , even if everyone 's houses are made of chewing gum and paperFWIW , I 'd bet a well-designed chewing-gum-and-paper house is more earthquake resistant than some of the concrete-steel-and-wood houses .
At the very least , it 'd be cheaper to build , assuming a a very large army of gum chewers , thus resulting in reduced liability for damages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Translation/application: if you demonstrate negligence and cause an earthquake, even if everyone's houses are made of chewing gum and paperFWIW, I'd bet a well-designed chewing-gum-and-paper house is more earthquake resistant than some of the concrete-steel-and-wood houses.
At the very least, it'd be cheaper to build, assuming a a very large army of gum chewers, thus resulting in reduced liability for damages.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449872</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449854</id>
	<title>Or as Tolkien would say it;</title>
	<author>Servaas</author>
	<datestamp>1260871860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Swiss! Oh Swiss! Wonder of the Western world! Too deep we delved there, and woke the shameless trail." Free interpretation of course.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Swiss !
Oh Swiss !
Wonder of the Western world !
Too deep we delved there , and woke the shameless trail .
" Free interpretation of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Swiss!
Oh Swiss!
Wonder of the Western world!
Too deep we delved there, and woke the shameless trail.
" Free interpretation of course.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449968</id>
	<title>Re:Here we go...</title>
	<author>Jophish</author>
	<datestamp>1260872280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>He isn't really at fault here.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He is n't really at fault here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He isn't really at fault here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449674</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449878</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260871980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European\_Macroseismic\_Scale" title="wikipedia.org">Seismic scale for Europe?</a> [wikipedia.org] <br> <br>I know nothing about Europe or Seismic Scales...  But, if that is correct, then WTF?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seismic scale for Europe ?
[ wikipedia.org ] I know nothing about Europe or Seismic Scales... But , if that is correct , then WTF ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seismic scale for Europe?
[wikipedia.org]  I know nothing about Europe or Seismic Scales...  But, if that is correct, then WTF?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449696</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30458840</id>
	<title>I wrote this story...</title>
	<author>Cerberus7</author>
	<datestamp>1259687700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wrote a short story in high school about 15 years ago that was basically this.  It's remarkable to see it in reality.  Kinda creepy, too, given how my story ended.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wrote a short story in high school about 15 years ago that was basically this .
It 's remarkable to see it in reality .
Kinda creepy , too , given how my story ended .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wrote a short story in high school about 15 years ago that was basically this.
It's remarkable to see it in reality.
Kinda creepy, too, given how my story ended.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450684</id>
	<title>Unintentional effects</title>
	<author>gznork26</author>
	<datestamp>1260874920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In this case, they were actually attempting to accomplish something when the unexpected happened. What about all of the places in the world where there's a chain of events just waiting to be triggered? The more the infrastructure is neglected, the less stable it becomes, and the more prone it is to failure. But when that failure triggers something else, and a cascade of events starts to unfold, who's to say whether the person who triggered the initial event, whether intentional or not, is responsible for the indirect results?</p><p>I explored this possibility in a short story called "Cascade". It starts like this...</p><p>+ - - - + - - - +</p><p>It had all come down to Irwin's own testimony. Five nightmarish months of a high-profile court case in which his life was laid bare like a laboratory exhibit and washed with stain that allowed only one interpretation: terrorist. And all because he'd suggested a use for some cash left over at the end of a tech conference.</p><p>He looked up from the bible beneath his hand, and then over at the judge. His throat was dry from sitting for so long beside his court-appointed lawyer, agape at the fabricated version of his life that had been reeled out by the prosecution. "I do."</p><p>"You may take the stand."</p><p>+ - - - + - - - +</p><p>Read the whole story at <a href="http://klurgsheld.wordpress.com/2008/05/14/short-story-cascade/" title="wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://klurgsheld.wordpress.com/2008/05/14/short-story-cascade/</a> [wordpress.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In this case , they were actually attempting to accomplish something when the unexpected happened .
What about all of the places in the world where there 's a chain of events just waiting to be triggered ?
The more the infrastructure is neglected , the less stable it becomes , and the more prone it is to failure .
But when that failure triggers something else , and a cascade of events starts to unfold , who 's to say whether the person who triggered the initial event , whether intentional or not , is responsible for the indirect results ? I explored this possibility in a short story called " Cascade " .
It starts like this... + - - - + - - - + It had all come down to Irwin 's own testimony .
Five nightmarish months of a high-profile court case in which his life was laid bare like a laboratory exhibit and washed with stain that allowed only one interpretation : terrorist .
And all because he 'd suggested a use for some cash left over at the end of a tech conference.He looked up from the bible beneath his hand , and then over at the judge .
His throat was dry from sitting for so long beside his court-appointed lawyer , agape at the fabricated version of his life that had been reeled out by the prosecution .
" I do .
" " You may take the stand .
" + - - - + - - - + Read the whole story at http : //klurgsheld.wordpress.com/2008/05/14/short-story-cascade/ [ wordpress.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In this case, they were actually attempting to accomplish something when the unexpected happened.
What about all of the places in the world where there's a chain of events just waiting to be triggered?
The more the infrastructure is neglected, the less stable it becomes, and the more prone it is to failure.
But when that failure triggers something else, and a cascade of events starts to unfold, who's to say whether the person who triggered the initial event, whether intentional or not, is responsible for the indirect results?I explored this possibility in a short story called "Cascade".
It starts like this...+ - - - + - - - +It had all come down to Irwin's own testimony.
Five nightmarish months of a high-profile court case in which his life was laid bare like a laboratory exhibit and washed with stain that allowed only one interpretation: terrorist.
And all because he'd suggested a use for some cash left over at the end of a tech conference.He looked up from the bible beneath his hand, and then over at the judge.
His throat was dry from sitting for so long beside his court-appointed lawyer, agape at the fabricated version of his life that had been reeled out by the prosecution.
"I do.
""You may take the stand.
"+ - - - + - - - +Read the whole story at http://klurgsheld.wordpress.com/2008/05/14/short-story-cascade/ [wordpress.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451914</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>DriedClexler</author>
	<datestamp>1260880860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I bet somebody once said that about people rebuilding cities on top of active faults.</p></div><p>No, you have that mixed up: someone said that about rebuilding a city below sea level, not an active fault.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet somebody once said that about people rebuilding cities on top of active faults.No , you have that mixed up : someone said that about rebuilding a city below sea level , not an active fault .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet somebody once said that about people rebuilding cities on top of active faults.No, you have that mixed up: someone said that about rebuilding a city below sea level, not an active fault.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450372</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453526</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1260893340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This <i>is</i> Europe we're talking about. Some of their buildings are probably two thousand years old.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is Europe we 're talking about .
Some of their buildings are probably two thousand years old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is Europe we're talking about.
Some of their buildings are probably two thousand years old.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450456</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30452822</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>similar\_name</author>
	<datestamp>1260886680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you leave it alone and a natural disaster happens, you can't really sue God. If you drill and make mini-quakes and someone's windows break, you can definitely sue the driller.</p></div><p>
Makes me wonder.  This is not the first time it's been believed that drilling triggered an earthquake.  How long until you can sue because the city didn't pay for drillers to relieve pressure and major earthquake occurs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you leave it alone and a natural disaster happens , you ca n't really sue God .
If you drill and make mini-quakes and someone 's windows break , you can definitely sue the driller .
Makes me wonder .
This is not the first time it 's been believed that drilling triggered an earthquake .
How long until you can sue because the city did n't pay for drillers to relieve pressure and major earthquake occurs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you leave it alone and a natural disaster happens, you can't really sue God.
If you drill and make mini-quakes and someone's windows break, you can definitely sue the driller.
Makes me wonder.
This is not the first time it's been believed that drilling triggered an earthquake.
How long until you can sue because the city didn't pay for drillers to relieve pressure and major earthquake occurs.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450390</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453004</id>
	<title>Re:impossible</title>
	<author>Tisha\_AH</author>
	<datestamp>1260888300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>By causing an "earthquake" the incident relieved built up stresses along the fault line. If faults were able to slide continually and smoothly you would not have earthquakes at all.</p><p>It would not be surprising to find out that the earthquake came while they were hydraulically fracturing the rock to allow for water channels to exist between boreholes. If you cannot pump cool water down one shaft and hot water up another you will have no means of recovering the built up heat and generating electricity. Creating these cracks and channels between boreholes is essential for geothermal (oil and gas as well) systems.</p><p>In hydro-fracturing they pump a fluid (water and a bunch of other chemicals and little beads to wedge into the cracks to keep them open) at extremely high pressures (&gt;10,000 psi) to open of seams in the rock and to create channels to allow the working fluid (water) to move between the wells. As the water moves through the rock it sucks up the heat and is then used to drive some sort of secondary loop. Since the water is not converted into steam (being cooler than 100 C) they must have planned on using some sort of intermediate process to generate the expanding gas to run a turbine or sterling engine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By causing an " earthquake " the incident relieved built up stresses along the fault line .
If faults were able to slide continually and smoothly you would not have earthquakes at all.It would not be surprising to find out that the earthquake came while they were hydraulically fracturing the rock to allow for water channels to exist between boreholes .
If you can not pump cool water down one shaft and hot water up another you will have no means of recovering the built up heat and generating electricity .
Creating these cracks and channels between boreholes is essential for geothermal ( oil and gas as well ) systems.In hydro-fracturing they pump a fluid ( water and a bunch of other chemicals and little beads to wedge into the cracks to keep them open ) at extremely high pressures ( &gt; 10,000 psi ) to open of seams in the rock and to create channels to allow the working fluid ( water ) to move between the wells .
As the water moves through the rock it sucks up the heat and is then used to drive some sort of secondary loop .
Since the water is not converted into steam ( being cooler than 100 C ) they must have planned on using some sort of intermediate process to generate the expanding gas to run a turbine or sterling engine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By causing an "earthquake" the incident relieved built up stresses along the fault line.
If faults were able to slide continually and smoothly you would not have earthquakes at all.It would not be surprising to find out that the earthquake came while they were hydraulically fracturing the rock to allow for water channels to exist between boreholes.
If you cannot pump cool water down one shaft and hot water up another you will have no means of recovering the built up heat and generating electricity.
Creating these cracks and channels between boreholes is essential for geothermal (oil and gas as well) systems.In hydro-fracturing they pump a fluid (water and a bunch of other chemicals and little beads to wedge into the cracks to keep them open) at extremely high pressures (&gt;10,000 psi) to open of seams in the rock and to create channels to allow the working fluid (water) to move between the wells.
As the water moves through the rock it sucks up the heat and is then used to drive some sort of secondary loop.
Since the water is not converted into steam (being cooler than 100 C) they must have planned on using some sort of intermediate process to generate the expanding gas to run a turbine or sterling engine.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451144</id>
	<title>Re:US project shut down</title>
	<author>corbettw</author>
	<datestamp>1260877020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Like anyone in San Francisco would notice a 3.4. That's just a normal night in the Castro when the music is playing loudly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Like anyone in San Francisco would notice a 3.4 .
That 's just a normal night in the Castro when the music is playing loudly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like anyone in San Francisco would notice a 3.4.
That's just a normal night in the Castro when the music is playing loudly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449764</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449802</id>
	<title>Profit!</title>
	<author>Logical Zebra</author>
	<datestamp>1260871680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Drill and Cause Earthquakes</p><p>2. ????</p><p>3. Profit!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Drill and Cause Earthquakes2 .
? ? ? ? 3. Profit !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Drill and Cause Earthquakes2.
????3. Profit!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451684</id>
	<title>Good - this madman has got to be stopped</title>
	<author>M4DP4RROT</author>
	<datestamp>1260879720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>or before you know it, there'll be bestial cavemen roaming the countryside and the whole world will be <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno\_(Doctor\_Who)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">covered in lava</a> [wikipedia.org].</htmltext>
<tokenext>or before you know it , there 'll be bestial cavemen roaming the countryside and the whole world will be covered in lava [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or before you know it, there'll be bestial cavemen roaming the countryside and the whole world will be covered in lava [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30452650</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh ,Christmas sale, free shipping discounts</title>
	<author>Jenkins170</author>
	<datestamp>1260885360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hi,Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,Here are the most popular, most stylish and avantgarde shoes,handbags,Tshirts,jacket,Tracksuitw ect... <a href="http://www.kkshoe.com/" title="kkshoe.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kkshoe.com/</a> [kkshoe.com]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/productlist.asp?id=s76(Tracksuit) Christmas is approaching, your Christmas gifts ready? kkshoe com mall for you, which involves a number of well-known brands from the Asia-Pacific region the trend of merchandise. Promotional discounts should be, come SHOPPING bar!Christmas sale, free shipping discounts are beautifully gift<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,Christmas gifts,look, Best quality, Best reputation , Best services Service is our Lift. Nike shox $35,Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket,ect... For details, please consult <a href="http://www.kkshoe.com/" title="kkshoe.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kkshoe.com/</a> [kkshoe.com] Thanks!!! Advance wish you a merry Christmas.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi,Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,Here are the most popular , most stylish and avantgarde shoes,handbags,Tshirts,jacket,Tracksuitw ect... http : //www.kkshoe.com/ [ kkshoe.com ] /productlist.asp ? id = s76 ( Tracksuit ) Christmas is approaching , your Christmas gifts ready ?
kkshoe com mall for you , which involves a number of well-known brands from the Asia-Pacific region the trend of merchandise .
Promotional discounts should be , come SHOPPING bar ! Christmas sale , free shipping discounts are beautifully gift ,Christmas gifts,look , Best quality , Best reputation , Best services Service is our Lift .
Nike shox $ 35,Handbags ( Coach lv fendi d&amp;g ) $ 35 Tshirts ( Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste ) $ 16 ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket,ect... For details , please consult http : //www.kkshoe.com/ [ kkshoe.com ] Thanks ! ! !
Advance wish you a merry Christmas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi,Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,Here are the most popular, most stylish and avantgarde shoes,handbags,Tshirts,jacket,Tracksuitw ect... http://www.kkshoe.com/ [kkshoe.com] /productlist.asp?id=s76(Tracksuit) Christmas is approaching, your Christmas gifts ready?
kkshoe com mall for you, which involves a number of well-known brands from the Asia-Pacific region the trend of merchandise.
Promotional discounts should be, come SHOPPING bar!Christmas sale, free shipping discounts are beautifully gift ,Christmas gifts,look, Best quality, Best reputation , Best services Service is our Lift.
Nike shox $35,Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket,ect... For details, please consult http://www.kkshoe.com/ [kkshoe.com] Thanks!!!
Advance wish you a merry Christmas.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449656</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451376</id>
	<title>Re:Jurisprudence</title>
	<author>radtea</author>
	<datestamp>1260878100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I'm eager to see how this trial's decisions will impact the trial against the LHC physicists team in a few months for causing rapid gravitational earth implosion</i></p><p>The what?  Don't you mean the LHC physicists team turning everyone on on Earth into a penguin?</p><p>How is it that everyone  who thinks the LHC might create black holes fails to notice the equally plausible grand unification of general relativity and evolution that could result in such mass cross-species conversion due to reprogramming of our DNA?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm eager to see how this trial 's decisions will impact the trial against the LHC physicists team in a few months for causing rapid gravitational earth implosionThe what ?
Do n't you mean the LHC physicists team turning everyone on on Earth into a penguin ? How is it that everyone who thinks the LHC might create black holes fails to notice the equally plausible grand unification of general relativity and evolution that could result in such mass cross-species conversion due to reprogramming of our DNA ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm eager to see how this trial's decisions will impact the trial against the LHC physicists team in a few months for causing rapid gravitational earth implosionThe what?
Don't you mean the LHC physicists team turning everyone on on Earth into a penguin?How is it that everyone  who thinks the LHC might create black holes fails to notice the equally plausible grand unification of general relativity and evolution that could result in such mass cross-species conversion due to reprogramming of our DNA?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450130</id>
	<title>most earth scientists knew this since 1960s</title>
	<author>peter303</author>
	<datestamp>1260872940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The big eye-opener was the injection of fluid at Rocky Mountain Arsenal near denver causing medium size quakes in 1965.  This is called <a href="http://www.nyx.net/~dcypser/induceq/induceq.bib.html" title="nyx.net"> induced seismicity </a> [nyx.net].  Its been seen around new dams (possibility in last years large Sichuan quake), geothermal drilling, irrigation fluid disposal, water table drops, etc.
<br> <br>
Teh question really is political.  Was the possibility of I.S. included in the pre-project environmental study?  Did they ignore signs of it starting?  Was it really caused by their activities.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The big eye-opener was the injection of fluid at Rocky Mountain Arsenal near denver causing medium size quakes in 1965 .
This is called induced seismicity [ nyx.net ] .
Its been seen around new dams ( possibility in last years large Sichuan quake ) , geothermal drilling , irrigation fluid disposal , water table drops , etc .
Teh question really is political .
Was the possibility of I.S .
included in the pre-project environmental study ?
Did they ignore signs of it starting ?
Was it really caused by their activities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The big eye-opener was the injection of fluid at Rocky Mountain Arsenal near denver causing medium size quakes in 1965.
This is called  induced seismicity  [nyx.net].
Its been seen around new dams (possibility in last years large Sichuan quake), geothermal drilling, irrigation fluid disposal, water table drops, etc.
Teh question really is political.
Was the possibility of I.S.
included in the pre-project environmental study?
Did they ignore signs of it starting?
Was it really caused by their activities.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30454344</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1260902700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I'm sure lots of things got blamed on "the quake" that were just coincidental.
</p><p>
How do you prove it was the neighbor's kids baseball that broke the window and not the quake?
</p><p>
Not to mention the X thousand people whose electronic device, such as computer hard drive coincidentally happened to fail sometime the same time of day as the quake.
</p><p>
Or the 100,000 or so people who were startled by ground shaking and dropped something...  each claiming $30 or so in damages.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure lots of things got blamed on " the quake " that were just coincidental .
How do you prove it was the neighbor 's kids baseball that broke the window and not the quake ?
Not to mention the X thousand people whose electronic device , such as computer hard drive coincidentally happened to fail sometime the same time of day as the quake .
Or the 100,000 or so people who were startled by ground shaking and dropped something... each claiming $ 30 or so in damages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I'm sure lots of things got blamed on "the quake" that were just coincidental.
How do you prove it was the neighbor's kids baseball that broke the window and not the quake?
Not to mention the X thousand people whose electronic device, such as computer hard drive coincidentally happened to fail sometime the same time of day as the quake.
Or the 100,000 or so people who were startled by ground shaking and dropped something...  each claiming $30 or so in damages.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449696</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450900</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260875820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>if by omelet you mean one made with human foetuses.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>if by omelet you mean one made with human foetuses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if by omelet you mean one made with human foetuses.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450068</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449768</id>
	<title>The first...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260871560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and only government subsidised earthquake I know of.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and only government subsidised earthquake I know of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and only government subsidised earthquake I know of.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450390</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>Applekid</author>
	<datestamp>1260873900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Would it either be that or waiting for one giant major natural shift that could cause even more damage?</p></div><p>No good deed goes unpunished?</p><p>If you leave it alone and a natural disaster happens, you can't really sue God. If you drill and make mini-quakes and someone's windows break, you can definitely sue the driller.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would it either be that or waiting for one giant major natural shift that could cause even more damage ? No good deed goes unpunished ? If you leave it alone and a natural disaster happens , you ca n't really sue God .
If you drill and make mini-quakes and someone 's windows break , you can definitely sue the driller .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would it either be that or waiting for one giant major natural shift that could cause even more damage?No good deed goes unpunished?If you leave it alone and a natural disaster happens, you can't really sue God.
If you drill and make mini-quakes and someone's windows break, you can definitely sue the driller.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450096</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453248</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260890160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You wuss. I live in the desert and we've had to of the largest quakes in recent California History. Landers at 7.1 and Hector at 7.3 and the only thing I had damanged was my peace of mind when the S.O ran screaming out doors because the shaking. Me, I didn't even bother worrying about the 14Lb. bowling ball precariously perched on top of a bookcase at the end of my bed. Even the dogs knew enough to simply sleep through it. Afterall earthquakes are a fact of life in California. Nice thing though was the damn noisy neighbor finally moved. He'd had enough with the quakes, so he moved to Buffalo, NY and now has to put up with blizzards and long power outages.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You wuss .
I live in the desert and we 've had to of the largest quakes in recent California History .
Landers at 7.1 and Hector at 7.3 and the only thing I had damanged was my peace of mind when the S.O ran screaming out doors because the shaking .
Me , I did n't even bother worrying about the 14Lb .
bowling ball precariously perched on top of a bookcase at the end of my bed .
Even the dogs knew enough to simply sleep through it .
Afterall earthquakes are a fact of life in California .
Nice thing though was the damn noisy neighbor finally moved .
He 'd had enough with the quakes , so he moved to Buffalo , NY and now has to put up with blizzards and long power outages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You wuss.
I live in the desert and we've had to of the largest quakes in recent California History.
Landers at 7.1 and Hector at 7.3 and the only thing I had damanged was my peace of mind when the S.O ran screaming out doors because the shaking.
Me, I didn't even bother worrying about the 14Lb.
bowling ball precariously perched on top of a bookcase at the end of my bed.
Even the dogs knew enough to simply sleep through it.
Afterall earthquakes are a fact of life in California.
Nice thing though was the damn noisy neighbor finally moved.
He'd had enough with the quakes, so he moved to Buffalo, NY and now has to put up with blizzards and long power outages.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451264</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30452268</id>
	<title>Re:I hear...</title>
	<author>afidel</author>
	<datestamp>1260883020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would have killed for geothermal heating in my cabin in Yellowstone, waking up at 4am because the fire burned out and the place is nearly freezing sucked.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would have killed for geothermal heating in my cabin in Yellowstone , waking up at 4am because the fire burned out and the place is nearly freezing sucked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would have killed for geothermal heating in my cabin in Yellowstone, waking up at 4am because the fire burned out and the place is nearly freezing sucked.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449818</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453790</id>
	<title>Re:impossible</title>
	<author>pitchpipe</author>
	<datestamp>1260896100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You can't "cause" an earthquake. They are caused by tectonic pressure. You may be able to adjust the timing of one, though.</p></div><p>You are absolutely right.  How about a bunch of small quakes rather than one large one.  I live in Salt Lake City which geologists say lies on a large fault that is due for a large quake.  I'd much rather have a planned quake, even if it was fairly large rather than a huge unexpected one.  I guarantee that if that happens I'll know people who'll die.  I just really hope that when it does happen it isn't anyone too close to me.  Selfish I know, but aren't we all?  I just wonder why nobody in that village seems to have thought that maybe he just saved their asses.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't " cause " an earthquake .
They are caused by tectonic pressure .
You may be able to adjust the timing of one , though.You are absolutely right .
How about a bunch of small quakes rather than one large one .
I live in Salt Lake City which geologists say lies on a large fault that is due for a large quake .
I 'd much rather have a planned quake , even if it was fairly large rather than a huge unexpected one .
I guarantee that if that happens I 'll know people who 'll die .
I just really hope that when it does happen it is n't anyone too close to me .
Selfish I know , but are n't we all ?
I just wonder why nobody in that village seems to have thought that maybe he just saved their asses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't "cause" an earthquake.
They are caused by tectonic pressure.
You may be able to adjust the timing of one, though.You are absolutely right.
How about a bunch of small quakes rather than one large one.
I live in Salt Lake City which geologists say lies on a large fault that is due for a large quake.
I'd much rather have a planned quake, even if it was fairly large rather than a huge unexpected one.
I guarantee that if that happens I'll know people who'll die.
I just really hope that when it does happen it isn't anyone too close to me.
Selfish I know, but aren't we all?
I just wonder why nobody in that village seems to have thought that maybe he just saved their asses.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451170</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453560</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>Tuqui</author>
	<datestamp>1260893700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Causing a small earthquake could save the city from a bigger one. Releasing the energy in small part is better than a big shake once.<br>He should be considered a hero.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Causing a small earthquake could save the city from a bigger one .
Releasing the energy in small part is better than a big shake once.He should be considered a hero .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Causing a small earthquake could save the city from a bigger one.
Releasing the energy in small part is better than a big shake once.He should be considered a hero.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450080</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451574</id>
	<title>We wouldn't even notice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260879240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dude, out here we wouldn't even notice a 3.4 magnitude earthquake.</p><p>It could warrant a comment or two if someone else is in the room when it happens, and it *might* get  5 minute blurb on a slow news day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , out here we would n't even notice a 3.4 magnitude earthquake.It could warrant a comment or two if someone else is in the room when it happens , and it * might * get 5 minute blurb on a slow news day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, out here we wouldn't even notice a 3.4 magnitude earthquake.It could warrant a comment or two if someone else is in the room when it happens, and it *might* get  5 minute blurb on a slow news day.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449764</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451972</id>
	<title>Re:Eggshell defense</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260881220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>which is BS in my opinion.  if you build a house you have to give due diligence to make it structurally sound to a reasonable degree.  if your skull is truly as fragile as an eggshell, then you were born that way and it is not something that was built.  Unless of course eggshell skulls become the next trend in body modification.  any house built that close to an active fault line should be able to withstand.  yeah, i know what the law is, but it's ridiculous.  i dislike any absolute 'fault' law, where in any given situation blame is uniformly assigned always in one way or the other without consideration for the merits of the case.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>which is BS in my opinion .
if you build a house you have to give due diligence to make it structurally sound to a reasonable degree .
if your skull is truly as fragile as an eggshell , then you were born that way and it is not something that was built .
Unless of course eggshell skulls become the next trend in body modification .
any house built that close to an active fault line should be able to withstand .
yeah , i know what the law is , but it 's ridiculous .
i dislike any absolute 'fault ' law , where in any given situation blame is uniformly assigned always in one way or the other without consideration for the merits of the case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>which is BS in my opinion.
if you build a house you have to give due diligence to make it structurally sound to a reasonable degree.
if your skull is truly as fragile as an eggshell, then you were born that way and it is not something that was built.
Unless of course eggshell skulls become the next trend in body modification.
any house built that close to an active fault line should be able to withstand.
yeah, i know what the law is, but it's ridiculous.
i dislike any absolute 'fault' law, where in any given situation blame is uniformly assigned always in one way or the other without consideration for the merits of the case.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449872</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450584</id>
	<title>Re:Here we go...</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1260874620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I doubt the geologist is at fault. However, his defense rests on really shaky ground.</p></div><p>Yep.  Now he's feeling the heat, and has got to be quaking in his boots.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt the geologist is at fault .
However , his defense rests on really shaky ground.Yep .
Now he 's feeling the heat , and has got to be quaking in his boots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt the geologist is at fault.
However, his defense rests on really shaky ground.Yep.
Now he's feeling the heat, and has got to be quaking in his boots.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449674</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450182</id>
	<title>Where's the kaboom?</title>
	<author>kungfugleek</author>
	<datestamp>1260873180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!
<p>

Well, at least they didn't try this in Yellowstone...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom !
Well , at least they did n't try this in Yellowstone.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!
Well, at least they didn't try this in Yellowstone...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450628</id>
	<title>Re:Profit!</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1260874800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How did you find the entire screenplay for "Under Siege 2?!?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How did you find the entire screenplay for " Under Siege 2 ? ! ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How did you find the entire screenplay for "Under Siege 2?!?
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449802</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453820</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>mczak</author>
	<datestamp>1260896460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In theory at least public buildings should be quake-proof - not quite sure to what degree, but certainly earthquakes with a magnitude above 4 aren't quite unexpected in that area. In fact there was a 6.5 earthquake at basel - not that much was left of it after that but that was in 1356. <br>
There were however 2500 damage reports, which explains the 9 million. That's not really much per damage report, it'll quickly cost quite a bit to for instance repair some superficial visible crack in plaster. And yes, there are strong doubts all of the damage was actually caused by that earthquake...</htmltext>
<tokenext>In theory at least public buildings should be quake-proof - not quite sure to what degree , but certainly earthquakes with a magnitude above 4 are n't quite unexpected in that area .
In fact there was a 6.5 earthquake at basel - not that much was left of it after that but that was in 1356 .
There were however 2500 damage reports , which explains the 9 million .
That 's not really much per damage report , it 'll quickly cost quite a bit to for instance repair some superficial visible crack in plaster .
And yes , there are strong doubts all of the damage was actually caused by that earthquake.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In theory at least public buildings should be quake-proof - not quite sure to what degree, but certainly earthquakes with a magnitude above 4 aren't quite unexpected in that area.
In fact there was a 6.5 earthquake at basel - not that much was left of it after that but that was in 1356.
There were however 2500 damage reports, which explains the 9 million.
That's not really much per damage report, it'll quickly cost quite a bit to for instance repair some superficial visible crack in plaster.
And yes, there are strong doubts all of the damage was actually caused by that earthquake...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451152</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450192</id>
	<title>Re:Eggshell defense</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1260873180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually I think a better legal principle might be the inherently dangerous activity one.  Like if you're using dynamite, and it causes damage, even though you weren't negligent, you are still liable for the damage.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually I think a better legal principle might be the inherently dangerous activity one .
Like if you 're using dynamite , and it causes damage , even though you were n't negligent , you are still liable for the damage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually I think a better legal principle might be the inherently dangerous activity one.
Like if you're using dynamite, and it causes damage, even though you weren't negligent, you are still liable for the damage.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449872</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451858</id>
	<title>Re:US project shut down</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260880560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How does this earthquake business work exactly?  Does tension build up and then sometimes you get big slips and thus big quakes?  So maybe causing an earthquake a day is a good idea?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How does this earthquake business work exactly ?
Does tension build up and then sometimes you get big slips and thus big quakes ?
So maybe causing an earthquake a day is a good idea ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How does this earthquake business work exactly?
Does tension build up and then sometimes you get big slips and thus big quakes?
So maybe causing an earthquake a day is a good idea?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449764</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451252</id>
	<title>Cheese, earth.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260877560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It must be Swiss to put holes in things.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It must be Swiss to put holes in things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It must be Swiss to put holes in things.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450366</id>
	<title>In Iceland....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260873840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here in Iceland they have been pumping down Co2 for testing. That is down with water, but the result is the same, it has created earthquakes. The largest one was about ML2.0 before they stopped the experiment.</p><p>I don't know why it was stopped. But it is quite oblivious that pressure changes create earthquakes faster then one might think.</p><p>However, in Iceland they where pumping down that water within a active volcano with a lot of fault lines.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here in Iceland they have been pumping down Co2 for testing .
That is down with water , but the result is the same , it has created earthquakes .
The largest one was about ML2.0 before they stopped the experiment.I do n't know why it was stopped .
But it is quite oblivious that pressure changes create earthquakes faster then one might think.However , in Iceland they where pumping down that water within a active volcano with a lot of fault lines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here in Iceland they have been pumping down Co2 for testing.
That is down with water, but the result is the same, it has created earthquakes.
The largest one was about ML2.0 before they stopped the experiment.I don't know why it was stopped.
But it is quite oblivious that pressure changes create earthquakes faster then one might think.However, in Iceland they where pumping down that water within a active volcano with a lot of fault lines.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30452758</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1260886140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As some who has read reports of the many thousands of birds that are killed in CA from windmills, I would say tis not an uns=deserved reputation. And all types of birds, including raptors.</p><p>There are several studies on the state of California website.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As some who has read reports of the many thousands of birds that are killed in CA from windmills , I would say t is not an uns = deserved reputation .
And all types of birds , including raptors.There are several studies on the state of California website .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As some who has read reports of the many thousands of birds that are killed in CA from windmills, I would say tis not an uns=deserved reputation.
And all types of birds, including raptors.There are several studies on the state of California website.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450014</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450228</id>
	<title>Lex Luther</title>
	<author>hoggoth</author>
	<datestamp>1260873300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hear Lex Luther is hiring.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hear Lex Luther is hiring .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hear Lex Luther is hiring.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451130</id>
	<title>Re:No, me! ME!</title>
	<author>corbettw</author>
	<datestamp>1260876960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Calm down, Dick. Why can't you just go do some motivational speaking tours like your buddy George?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Calm down , Dick .
Why ca n't you just go do some motivational speaking tours like your buddy George ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Calm down, Dick.
Why can't you just go do some motivational speaking tours like your buddy George?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449686</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450210</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>contrapunctus</author>
	<datestamp>1260873240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>So if the government wants them to make an omelet and company breaks some eggs, is it all the company's fault or does the government bear some responsibility?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So if the government wants them to make an omelet and company breaks some eggs , is it all the company 's fault or does the government bear some responsibility ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So if the government wants them to make an omelet and company breaks some eggs, is it all the company's fault or does the government bear some responsibility?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449656</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30454934</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>iamapizza</author>
	<datestamp>1259658960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>True, but after this trial, his career's going to be on the <em>rocks</em>.
<br> <br>
Thank you, thank you, I'll get my coat.</htmltext>
<tokenext>True , but after this trial , his career 's going to be on the rocks .
Thank you , thank you , I 'll get my coat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True, but after this trial, his career's going to be on the rocks.
Thank you, thank you, I'll get my coat.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449656</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30454684</id>
	<title>Re:Eggshell defense</title>
	<author>ckedge</author>
	<datestamp>1260906960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The eggshell skull rule is a piece of vindictive bullshit from 150 years ago.</p><p>On the other side of the spectrum I think we should treat *all* drunken drivers as if they had killed someone, because they have, just through indirect statistical accumulation.</p><p>There should be no difference between murder and attempted murder.  In both cases the criminal did exactly the same fucking thing -- one of them happened to be lucky enough to pull off what they intended.  I don't see why the unlucky one should get less of a sentence.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The eggshell skull rule is a piece of vindictive bullshit from 150 years ago.On the other side of the spectrum I think we should treat * all * drunken drivers as if they had killed someone , because they have , just through indirect statistical accumulation.There should be no difference between murder and attempted murder .
In both cases the criminal did exactly the same fucking thing -- one of them happened to be lucky enough to pull off what they intended .
I do n't see why the unlucky one should get less of a sentence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The eggshell skull rule is a piece of vindictive bullshit from 150 years ago.On the other side of the spectrum I think we should treat *all* drunken drivers as if they had killed someone, because they have, just through indirect statistical accumulation.There should be no difference between murder and attempted murder.
In both cases the criminal did exactly the same fucking thing -- one of them happened to be lucky enough to pull off what they intended.
I don't see why the unlucky one should get less of a sentence.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449872</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30463734</id>
	<title>It's just not fair</title>
	<author>LrdDimwit</author>
	<datestamp>1259661480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Everybody always talks about the weather, but when somebody tries to do something about it, "the man" has a fit.  Next thing you know, you get labelled a "supervillain".  And then you get beat up by a guy wearing pajamas.  But they'll see, one day.  Oh yes, I'll show them!  I'll show all of them!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everybody always talks about the weather , but when somebody tries to do something about it , " the man " has a fit .
Next thing you know , you get labelled a " supervillain " .
And then you get beat up by a guy wearing pajamas .
But they 'll see , one day .
Oh yes , I 'll show them !
I 'll show all of them !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everybody always talks about the weather, but when somebody tries to do something about it, "the man" has a fit.
Next thing you know, you get labelled a "supervillain".
And then you get beat up by a guy wearing pajamas.
But they'll see, one day.
Oh yes, I'll show them!
I'll show all of them!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449674</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30452948</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>polymeris</author>
	<datestamp>1260887640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's an intensity (subjective) scale. They said magnitude (I assume <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter\_magnitude\_scale" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Richter</a> [wikipedia.org]).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's an intensity ( subjective ) scale .
They said magnitude ( I assume Richter [ wikipedia.org ] ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's an intensity (subjective) scale.
They said magnitude (I assume Richter [wikipedia.org]).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449878</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30452086</id>
	<title>Re:Here we go...</title>
	<author>ystar</author>
	<datestamp>1260881820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Moria. You fear to go into those mines. The geologists dug too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dum...lawsuit trolls..."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Moria .
You fear to go into those mines .
The geologists dug too greedily and too deep .
You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dum...lawsuit trolls... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Moria.
You fear to go into those mines.
The geologists dug too greedily and too deep.
You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dum...lawsuit trolls..."</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449674</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30501976</id>
	<title>We are sad to see you go!</title>
	<author>Snaller</author>
	<datestamp>1261239780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>*wave*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* wave *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*wave*</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30452954</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450460</id>
	<title>Re:Here we go...</title>
	<author>hashax</author>
	<datestamp>1260874140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There should have been a preliminary Haering as there isnt enough evidence against him.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There should have been a preliminary Haering as there isnt enough evidence against him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There should have been a preliminary Haering as there isnt enough evidence against him.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449674</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30456260</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>RevRagnarok</author>
	<datestamp>1259674500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I bet somebody once said that about people rebuilding cities on top of active faults.</p></div><p>Or below sea level (New Orleans).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet somebody once said that about people rebuilding cities on top of active faults.Or below sea level ( New Orleans ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet somebody once said that about people rebuilding cities on top of active faults.Or below sea level (New Orleans).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450372</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451978</id>
	<title>Re:Here we go...</title>
	<author>VocationalZero</author>
	<datestamp>1260881280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But so does the prosecutor's brief case.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But so does the prosecutor 's brief case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But so does the prosecutor's brief case.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449674</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450096</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>nschubach</author>
	<datestamp>1260872820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I makes me wonder... I'm no geologist by any measure, but there's obviously pressure built up in that area.  Wouldn't drilling holes to break holds and release some of that plate pressure by causing smaller quakes be a preferred course of action?  Would it either be that or waiting for one giant major natural shift that could cause even more damage?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I makes me wonder... I 'm no geologist by any measure , but there 's obviously pressure built up in that area .
Would n't drilling holes to break holds and release some of that plate pressure by causing smaller quakes be a preferred course of action ?
Would it either be that or waiting for one giant major natural shift that could cause even more damage ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I makes me wonder... I'm no geologist by any measure, but there's obviously pressure built up in that area.
Wouldn't drilling holes to break holds and release some of that plate pressure by causing smaller quakes be a preferred course of action?
Would it either be that or waiting for one giant major natural shift that could cause even more damage?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449656</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449686</id>
	<title>No, me! ME!</title>
	<author>Dr. Eggman</author>
	<datestamp>1260871200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Blast it, I failed the broadcast take over announcing my intentions for world domination! It was <b>my</b> demostration of <b>my</b> earthquake machine! me, <i>me <b>ME!</b> </i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Blast it , I failed the broadcast take over announcing my intentions for world domination !
It was my demostration of my earthquake machine !
me , me ME !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Blast it, I failed the broadcast take over announcing my intentions for world domination!
It was my demostration of my earthquake machine!
me, me ME! </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30457016</id>
	<title>Re:US project shut down</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1259679840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You think <em>you're</em> thankful? With a good ballistics calculator I could put a bullet on their site from my house. <em>And I probably should have:</em> when they were doing the construction work for the project they had this absolutely insane array of high-powered arc lamps which gave the site a real night-to-day treatment... and probably produced as much light pollution as everything else in the county at once. For the two weeks surrounding the new moon, it looked like a perpetual dawning in that direction. I can't imagine being one of the poor bastards living on Bottle Rock Road who had to deal with that. In addition, I was making a lot of trips over Cobb Mountain at that time, and I was continually stuck behind semis and pickup trucks whose eventual destination was their gate, and repeatedly had their employees pull out right in front of me &mdash; out of their driveway on a sweeper curve on a road with a 55 mile per hour speed limit. (It has since been reduced to 45...) Even the floodlamps on their sign were far brighter than necessary, and downright blinding on a dark night, worse than oncoming headlights. Everything about them was offensive, and I'm beyond glad to see them shut down operations at The Geysers.</p><p>Now, if only we could shut down <em>all</em> operations there; the power plant is continually over budget and under-producing, and it produces a steady stream of toxics including prodigious quantities of arsenic, all of which are stored in <em>open concrete pits</em> next to the generation facility. Every few years they build a slab over the pit, and raise the walls up so they can put more there. They used to truck it off-site and bury it in drums at a facility on Butts Canyon Road, but the drums began leaking (shock, amazement) and we started having two-headed cattle and whatnot. They "cleaned" the mess by digging it up and installing a plastic liner. I'm getting out of this county as soon as it is convenient...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You think you 're thankful ?
With a good ballistics calculator I could put a bullet on their site from my house .
And I probably should have : when they were doing the construction work for the project they had this absolutely insane array of high-powered arc lamps which gave the site a real night-to-day treatment... and probably produced as much light pollution as everything else in the county at once .
For the two weeks surrounding the new moon , it looked like a perpetual dawning in that direction .
I ca n't imagine being one of the poor bastards living on Bottle Rock Road who had to deal with that .
In addition , I was making a lot of trips over Cobb Mountain at that time , and I was continually stuck behind semis and pickup trucks whose eventual destination was their gate , and repeatedly had their employees pull out right in front of me    out of their driveway on a sweeper curve on a road with a 55 mile per hour speed limit .
( It has since been reduced to 45... ) Even the floodlamps on their sign were far brighter than necessary , and downright blinding on a dark night , worse than oncoming headlights .
Everything about them was offensive , and I 'm beyond glad to see them shut down operations at The Geysers.Now , if only we could shut down all operations there ; the power plant is continually over budget and under-producing , and it produces a steady stream of toxics including prodigious quantities of arsenic , all of which are stored in open concrete pits next to the generation facility .
Every few years they build a slab over the pit , and raise the walls up so they can put more there .
They used to truck it off-site and bury it in drums at a facility on Butts Canyon Road , but the drums began leaking ( shock , amazement ) and we started having two-headed cattle and whatnot .
They " cleaned " the mess by digging it up and installing a plastic liner .
I 'm getting out of this county as soon as it is convenient.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You think you're thankful?
With a good ballistics calculator I could put a bullet on their site from my house.
And I probably should have: when they were doing the construction work for the project they had this absolutely insane array of high-powered arc lamps which gave the site a real night-to-day treatment... and probably produced as much light pollution as everything else in the county at once.
For the two weeks surrounding the new moon, it looked like a perpetual dawning in that direction.
I can't imagine being one of the poor bastards living on Bottle Rock Road who had to deal with that.
In addition, I was making a lot of trips over Cobb Mountain at that time, and I was continually stuck behind semis and pickup trucks whose eventual destination was their gate, and repeatedly had their employees pull out right in front of me — out of their driveway on a sweeper curve on a road with a 55 mile per hour speed limit.
(It has since been reduced to 45...) Even the floodlamps on their sign were far brighter than necessary, and downright blinding on a dark night, worse than oncoming headlights.
Everything about them was offensive, and I'm beyond glad to see them shut down operations at The Geysers.Now, if only we could shut down all operations there; the power plant is continually over budget and under-producing, and it produces a steady stream of toxics including prodigious quantities of arsenic, all of which are stored in open concrete pits next to the generation facility.
Every few years they build a slab over the pit, and raise the walls up so they can put more there.
They used to truck it off-site and bury it in drums at a facility on Butts Canyon Road, but the drums began leaking (shock, amazement) and we started having two-headed cattle and whatnot.
They "cleaned" the mess by digging it up and installing a plastic liner.
I'm getting out of this county as soon as it is convenient...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450150</id>
	<title>Trials to be proud of</title>
	<author>Captain Spam</author>
	<datestamp>1260873060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the bright side, if it legitimately were my fault and/or plan, that IS one of the top things I'd be proud to be on trial for.  Rates right up there with "attempted destruction of the moon" and "triggered volcanoes to, as the defendant put it, 'show all those fools who is mad'".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the bright side , if it legitimately were my fault and/or plan , that IS one of the top things I 'd be proud to be on trial for .
Rates right up there with " attempted destruction of the moon " and " triggered volcanoes to , as the defendant put it , 'show all those fools who is mad ' " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the bright side, if it legitimately were my fault and/or plan, that IS one of the top things I'd be proud to be on trial for.
Rates right up there with "attempted destruction of the moon" and "triggered volcanoes to, as the defendant put it, 'show all those fools who is mad'".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449764</id>
	<title>US project shut down</title>
	<author>Rufus211</author>
	<datestamp>1260871560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thankfully a project by the same company just north of San Francisco has been shut down.  The last thing CA needs is more earthquakes.</p><p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/12/science/earth/12quake.html" title="nytimes.com">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/12/science/earth/12quake.html</a> [nytimes.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thankfully a project by the same company just north of San Francisco has been shut down .
The last thing CA needs is more earthquakes.http : //www.nytimes.com/2009/12/12/science/earth/12quake.html [ nytimes.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thankfully a project by the same company just north of San Francisco has been shut down.
The last thing CA needs is more earthquakes.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/12/science/earth/12quake.html [nytimes.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450346</id>
	<title>Drying clothes and linen on rope in sun and wind</title>
	<author>Max\_W</author>
	<datestamp>1260873780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All this to produce electricity to dry clothing in the electric dryers. Just let people dry clothing and linen on the ropes in the sun and wind.</p><p>Billions and billions of such drying wet items will cool the planet. Because it will be daily, and it will be in billions.</p><p>We are trying to solve by engineering means a problem which is not a technical problem. It is a problem in our heads.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All this to produce electricity to dry clothing in the electric dryers .
Just let people dry clothing and linen on the ropes in the sun and wind.Billions and billions of such drying wet items will cool the planet .
Because it will be daily , and it will be in billions.We are trying to solve by engineering means a problem which is not a technical problem .
It is a problem in our heads .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All this to produce electricity to dry clothing in the electric dryers.
Just let people dry clothing and linen on the ropes in the sun and wind.Billions and billions of such drying wet items will cool the planet.
Because it will be daily, and it will be in billions.We are trying to solve by engineering means a problem which is not a technical problem.
It is a problem in our heads.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453836</id>
	<title>Geothermal Project in California Is Shut Down</title>
	<author>4phun</author>
	<datestamp>1260896580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Geothermal Project in California Is Shut Down
By JAMES GLANZ
Published: December 11, 2009

The company in charge of a California project to extract vast amounts of renewable energy from deep, hot bedrock has removed its drill rig and informed federal officials that the government project will be abandoned.

AltaRock Energy has told the Department of Energy it has removed its drill rig, shown above in May, from a Northern California site and abandoned the project.

A method of tapping energy from bedrock has been linked to increased earthquake activity.

The project by the company, AltaRock Energy, was the Obama administration&rsquo;s first major test of geothermal energy as a significant alternative to fossil fuels and the project was being financed with federal Department of Energy money at a site about 100 miles north of San Francisco called the Geysers.

But on Friday, the Energy Department said that AltaRock had given notice this week that &ldquo;it will not be continuing work at the Geysers&rdquo;.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Geothermal Project in California Is Shut Down By JAMES GLANZ Published : December 11 , 2009 The company in charge of a California project to extract vast amounts of renewable energy from deep , hot bedrock has removed its drill rig and informed federal officials that the government project will be abandoned .
AltaRock Energy has told the Department of Energy it has removed its drill rig , shown above in May , from a Northern California site and abandoned the project .
A method of tapping energy from bedrock has been linked to increased earthquake activity .
The project by the company , AltaRock Energy , was the Obama administration    s first major test of geothermal energy as a significant alternative to fossil fuels and the project was being financed with federal Department of Energy money at a site about 100 miles north of San Francisco called the Geysers .
But on Friday , the Energy Department said that AltaRock had given notice this week that    it will not be continuing work at the Geysers    .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Geothermal Project in California Is Shut Down
By JAMES GLANZ
Published: December 11, 2009

The company in charge of a California project to extract vast amounts of renewable energy from deep, hot bedrock has removed its drill rig and informed federal officials that the government project will be abandoned.
AltaRock Energy has told the Department of Energy it has removed its drill rig, shown above in May, from a Northern California site and abandoned the project.
A method of tapping energy from bedrock has been linked to increased earthquake activity.
The project by the company, AltaRock Energy, was the Obama administration’s first major test of geothermal energy as a significant alternative to fossil fuels and the project was being financed with federal Department of Energy money at a site about 100 miles north of San Francisco called the Geysers.
But on Friday, the Energy Department said that AltaRock had given notice this week that “it will not be continuing work at the Geysers”.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450738</id>
	<title>lol</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260875100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, I agree, indeed this is the whole point of an LLC.  LLCs are horribly abused quite routinely.  I often observe that chemical companies should really be charged with manslaughter for some of their pollutants.  *But* a serious research project that happens to "break a few eggs" should really be let slide.</p><p>A reasonable compromise might be awarding shares in this company to the damaged cities and the Swiss national science funding body, so the company current backers face dilution as punishment, but no immediate funds change hands, and any IP becomes closer to public property.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , I agree , indeed this is the whole point of an LLC .
LLCs are horribly abused quite routinely .
I often observe that chemical companies should really be charged with manslaughter for some of their pollutants .
* But * a serious research project that happens to " break a few eggs " should really be let slide.A reasonable compromise might be awarding shares in this company to the damaged cities and the Swiss national science funding body , so the company current backers face dilution as punishment , but no immediate funds change hands , and any IP becomes closer to public property .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I agree, indeed this is the whole point of an LLC.
LLCs are horribly abused quite routinely.
I often observe that chemical companies should really be charged with manslaughter for some of their pollutants.
*But* a serious research project that happens to "break a few eggs" should really be let slide.A reasonable compromise might be awarding shares in this company to the damaged cities and the Swiss national science funding body, so the company current backers face dilution as punishment, but no immediate funds change hands, and any IP becomes closer to public property.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30452928</id>
	<title>No, no, no - there is another explanation</title>
	<author>cheros</author>
	<datestamp>1260887460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In case you didn't realise, <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0496806/" title="imdb.com">Basel actually has a casino</a> [imdb.com]..<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In case you did n't realise , Basel actually has a casino [ imdb.com ] .. : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In case you didn't realise, Basel actually has a casino [imdb.com].. :-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450580</id>
	<title>Haering's company was actually ...</title>
	<author>Brad Eleven</author>
	<datestamp>1260874620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>... trying to selectively topple <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minaret\_controversy\_in\_Switzerland" title="wikipedia.org">minarets</a> [wikipedia.org].</htmltext>
<tokenext>... trying to selectively topple minarets [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... trying to selectively topple minarets [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30452110</id>
	<title>I know I know!!!</title>
	<author>Ralph Spoilsport</author>
	<datestamp>1260882000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let's drill HUNDREDS of geothermal tubes in YELLOWSTONE PARK!!!
<p>
THAT'S THE TICKET!!!
</p><p>
It'll be great - we can draw off some of that heat from the magma and power the country forever.
</p><p>
What? Weaken the dome? Create a supervolcano? Naaaaah. Never happen! Imagine all the money we'll make!!!
</p><p>
RS</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's drill HUNDREDS of geothermal tubes in YELLOWSTONE PARK ! ! !
THAT 'S THE TICKET ! ! !
It 'll be great - we can draw off some of that heat from the magma and power the country forever .
What ? Weaken the dome ?
Create a supervolcano ?
Naaaaah. Never happen !
Imagine all the money we 'll make ! ! !
RS</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's drill HUNDREDS of geothermal tubes in YELLOWSTONE PARK!!!
THAT'S THE TICKET!!!
It'll be great - we can draw off some of that heat from the magma and power the country forever.
What? Weaken the dome?
Create a supervolcano?
Naaaaah. Never happen!
Imagine all the money we'll make!!!
RS</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449818</id>
	<title>I hear...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260871740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...yellowstone's got lot of potential for geothermal energy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...yellowstone 's got lot of potential for geothermal energy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...yellowstone's got lot of potential for geothermal energy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450456</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260874140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I respectfully disagree. After living in the pacific northwest and experiencing numerous earthquakes firsthand, I can say with some authority that any structure built in a tectonically active region that cannot safely handle a 3.4 magnitude earthquake was built improperly.</p><p>There were several 3.5ish earthquakes in Oregon where I lived over the last 20 years and as far as I know, broken picture frames were the extent of the damage. Geothermal energy production only makes sense in places where volcanic or tectonic activity is likely. It's not without risk either.</p><p>It seems obvious that there was no intentional earthquake caused, but that was the natural result of fracturing the fault and 3.4 hardly sounds noteworthy. However, more detailed seismic study seems warranted before moving forward with any such project in the future.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I respectfully disagree .
After living in the pacific northwest and experiencing numerous earthquakes firsthand , I can say with some authority that any structure built in a tectonically active region that can not safely handle a 3.4 magnitude earthquake was built improperly.There were several 3.5ish earthquakes in Oregon where I lived over the last 20 years and as far as I know , broken picture frames were the extent of the damage .
Geothermal energy production only makes sense in places where volcanic or tectonic activity is likely .
It 's not without risk either.It seems obvious that there was no intentional earthquake caused , but that was the natural result of fracturing the fault and 3.4 hardly sounds noteworthy .
However , more detailed seismic study seems warranted before moving forward with any such project in the future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I respectfully disagree.
After living in the pacific northwest and experiencing numerous earthquakes firsthand, I can say with some authority that any structure built in a tectonically active region that cannot safely handle a 3.4 magnitude earthquake was built improperly.There were several 3.5ish earthquakes in Oregon where I lived over the last 20 years and as far as I know, broken picture frames were the extent of the damage.
Geothermal energy production only makes sense in places where volcanic or tectonic activity is likely.
It's not without risk either.It seems obvious that there was no intentional earthquake caused, but that was the natural result of fracturing the fault and 3.4 hardly sounds noteworthy.
However, more detailed seismic study seems warranted before moving forward with any such project in the future.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30458446</id>
	<title>Re:impossible</title>
	<author>ladadadada</author>
	<datestamp>1259686200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>True... but the <b>few</b> years later may well have been 10 or 100 or 1000 or 10,000.  We don't know enough about earthquakes yet to know which of those options is likely.
<p>
If you put it to a vote, I would bet that most of the population would go for a doubling of intensity if they knew it wouldn't happen for another 100 years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>True... but the few years later may well have been 10 or 100 or 1000 or 10,000 .
We do n't know enough about earthquakes yet to know which of those options is likely .
If you put it to a vote , I would bet that most of the population would go for a doubling of intensity if they knew it would n't happen for another 100 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True... but the few years later may well have been 10 or 100 or 1000 or 10,000.
We don't know enough about earthquakes yet to know which of those options is likely.
If you put it to a vote, I would bet that most of the population would go for a doubling of intensity if they knew it wouldn't happen for another 100 years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449804</id>
	<title>In other news...</title>
	<author>Z1NG</author>
	<datestamp>1260871680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>In other news, Swiss marine biologist accused of attaching lasers to the heads of sharks.
<br>
Seriously, if this guy changes his name to Dr. Quake or some other reasonable mad scientist name his only punishment should be a lecture from the super hero of his choice.
<br>
\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_
<br>
On a more serious note, this is pretty scary.  His excuse that the result was stronger than he expected is lame - when dealing with things of this magnitude you should try to be as certain as possible.  Calling such a damaging incident "a learning process"  seems a little asinine. I hope no one was hurt.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In other news , Swiss marine biologist accused of attaching lasers to the heads of sharks .
Seriously , if this guy changes his name to Dr. Quake or some other reasonable mad scientist name his only punishment should be a lecture from the super hero of his choice .
\ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ On a more serious note , this is pretty scary .
His excuse that the result was stronger than he expected is lame - when dealing with things of this magnitude you should try to be as certain as possible .
Calling such a damaging incident " a learning process " seems a little asinine .
I hope no one was hurt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In other news, Swiss marine biologist accused of attaching lasers to the heads of sharks.
Seriously, if this guy changes his name to Dr. Quake or some other reasonable mad scientist name his only punishment should be a lecture from the super hero of his choice.
\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_

On a more serious note, this is pretty scary.
His excuse that the result was stronger than he expected is lame - when dealing with things of this magnitude you should try to be as certain as possible.
Calling such a damaging incident "a learning process"  seems a little asinine.
I hope no one was hurt.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450950</id>
	<title>Can we postpone or lessen The Big One?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260876120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Would it be possible to use these drilling-induced earthquakes to relieve stress on the fault line and prevent a giant earthquake later?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would it be possible to use these drilling-induced earthquakes to relieve stress on the fault line and prevent a giant earthquake later ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would it be possible to use these drilling-induced earthquakes to relieve stress on the fault line and prevent a giant earthquake later?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450030</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260872640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'd feel terrible if useful research was suspended because of profiteering townsfolk.</p></div><p>I agree, but thats exactly the situation we have nowadays.</p><p>I myself live near St.Gallen, and I really hope they aren't going to stop doing science just because some people are afraid of it. But unfortunately, science is extremely unpopular in todays consumer society, and our government doesn't care enough to make any real progress.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd feel terrible if useful research was suspended because of profiteering townsfolk.I agree , but thats exactly the situation we have nowadays.I myself live near St.Gallen , and I really hope they are n't going to stop doing science just because some people are afraid of it .
But unfortunately , science is extremely unpopular in todays consumer society , and our government does n't care enough to make any real progress .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd feel terrible if useful research was suspended because of profiteering townsfolk.I agree, but thats exactly the situation we have nowadays.I myself live near St.Gallen, and I really hope they aren't going to stop doing science just because some people are afraid of it.
But unfortunately, science is extremely unpopular in todays consumer society, and our government doesn't care enough to make any real progress.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30452652</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>maugle</author>
	<datestamp>1260885360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>In fact, the city should be <b>grateful</b>.  Much better to have a magnitude 3.4 quake now, than to let the stress in the fault line accumulate until it breaks out in the form of a magnitude 8.0 quake.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In fact , the city should be grateful .
Much better to have a magnitude 3.4 quake now , than to let the stress in the fault line accumulate until it breaks out in the form of a magnitude 8.0 quake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In fact, the city should be grateful.
Much better to have a magnitude 3.4 quake now, than to let the stress in the fault line accumulate until it breaks out in the form of a magnitude 8.0 quake.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450068</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260872760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You mean: "You can't make an omelet without killing some people..."</htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean : " You ca n't make an omelet without killing some people... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean: "You can't make an omelet without killing some people..."</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453616</id>
	<title>The boy who hit the electric pole....</title>
	<author>stoicio</author>
	<datestamp>1260894360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>....just as the lights went out.</p><p>Drilling is minuscule compared to  the scale of a fault....(??!!)</p><p>If a bit of drilling is setting off earthquakes, they shouldn't be<br>blaming the drilling, they should be thanking the drillers for relieving the pressure<br>that could have caused a much larger quake.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>....just as the lights went out.Drilling is minuscule compared to the scale of a fault.... ( ? ? ! !
) If a bit of drilling is setting off earthquakes , they should n't beblaming the drilling , they should be thanking the drillers for relieving the pressurethat could have caused a much larger quake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>....just as the lights went out.Drilling is minuscule compared to  the scale of a fault....(??!!
)If a bit of drilling is setting off earthquakes, they shouldn't beblaming the drilling, they should be thanking the drillers for relieving the pressurethat could have caused a much larger quake.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30458186</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1259685240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or on land next to the Ocean, that is actually below it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or on land next to the Ocean , that is actually below it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or on land next to the Ocean, that is actually below it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30454326</id>
	<title>Re:can we go after natural gas companies, too?</title>
	<author>evilviper</author>
	<datestamp>1260902400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It isn't going to be climate change that kills us. We won't have any clean water to drink.</p></div></blockquote><p>A miniscule percentage of our water supplies are consumed by humans.  While desalination and advanced filtering aren't cheap, it would still be much cheaper than the current batches of bottled water.</p><p>In short, we aren't going to die.  Your lawn might, though.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is n't going to be climate change that kills us .
We wo n't have any clean water to drink.A miniscule percentage of our water supplies are consumed by humans .
While desalination and advanced filtering are n't cheap , it would still be much cheaper than the current batches of bottled water.In short , we are n't going to die .
Your lawn might , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It isn't going to be climate change that kills us.
We won't have any clean water to drink.A miniscule percentage of our water supplies are consumed by humans.
While desalination and advanced filtering aren't cheap, it would still be much cheaper than the current batches of bottled water.In short, we aren't going to die.
Your lawn might, though.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30452742</id>
	<title>They're Swiss not French.</title>
	<author>HornWumpus</author>
	<datestamp>1260886020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
They didn't shit themselves when/if they felt the earthquake (as the Frogs would.)
</p><p>
They shit themselves when they realized there was money to be had (what can you say, they're Swiss).
</p><p>
3.4s don't crack plaster.
</p><p>
Any structure damaged by a 3.4 should be condemned for safety reasons and the scientist thanked for revealing such a deficient structure. Bet that would change the villagers tune.
</p><p>
I can't believe a nation that employs hygiene examiners (government inspection of any premises when you move out) doesn't also enforce building codes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They did n't shit themselves when/if they felt the earthquake ( as the Frogs would .
) They shit themselves when they realized there was money to be had ( what can you say , they 're Swiss ) .
3.4s do n't crack plaster .
Any structure damaged by a 3.4 should be condemned for safety reasons and the scientist thanked for revealing such a deficient structure .
Bet that would change the villagers tune .
I ca n't believe a nation that employs hygiene examiners ( government inspection of any premises when you move out ) does n't also enforce building codes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
They didn't shit themselves when/if they felt the earthquake (as the Frogs would.
)

They shit themselves when they realized there was money to be had (what can you say, they're Swiss).
3.4s don't crack plaster.
Any structure damaged by a 3.4 should be condemned for safety reasons and the scientist thanked for revealing such a deficient structure.
Bet that would change the villagers tune.
I can't believe a nation that employs hygiene examiners (government inspection of any premises when you move out) doesn't also enforce building codes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30454322</id>
	<title>Re:Here we go...</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1260902340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Thankfully the prosecution also rests on really shaky ground.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thankfully the prosecution also rests on really shaky ground .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Thankfully the prosecution also rests on really shaky ground.
</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450408</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>scratchpaper</author>
	<datestamp>1260873960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not to nitpick, but structurally, eggshells are incredibly strong.  Ok, that was totally to nitpick.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to nitpick , but structurally , eggshells are incredibly strong .
Ok , that was totally to nitpick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to nitpick, but structurally, eggshells are incredibly strong.
Ok, that was totally to nitpick.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451202</id>
	<title>Finally</title>
	<author>slightly\_flawed</author>
	<datestamp>1260877260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The first bona fide supervillain! Complete with German accent and underground evil project!</htmltext>
<tokenext>The first bona fide supervillain !
Complete with German accent and underground evil project !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The first bona fide supervillain!
Complete with German accent and underground evil project!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30461360</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>Reziac</author>
	<datestamp>1259696700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If a 3.4 is literally right under your house, you'll get a little rattling, akin to a heavy truck going down your street. (I live in an active quake zone, we get them all the time.) If it's a few miles off, you might get a slight vibration. At worst it is very unlikely to so much as shake stuff off shelves, tho it may make an unsecured cupboard door swing open.</p><p>But I've never seen a house built so poorly that a 3.4 quake *could* damage it, and I wouldn't expect damage even if the house was wattle-and-daub.</p><p>As to Swiss houses, they are built to withstand a considerable winter snow load, and I'd guess the walls and foundations also need to withstand a lot of frost heave. Snow load/frost heave cause a lot more structural stress than any quake below about 4.0 or so, even were said quake pretty much right underfoot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If a 3.4 is literally right under your house , you 'll get a little rattling , akin to a heavy truck going down your street .
( I live in an active quake zone , we get them all the time .
) If it 's a few miles off , you might get a slight vibration .
At worst it is very unlikely to so much as shake stuff off shelves , tho it may make an unsecured cupboard door swing open.But I 've never seen a house built so poorly that a 3.4 quake * could * damage it , and I would n't expect damage even if the house was wattle-and-daub.As to Swiss houses , they are built to withstand a considerable winter snow load , and I 'd guess the walls and foundations also need to withstand a lot of frost heave .
Snow load/frost heave cause a lot more structural stress than any quake below about 4.0 or so , even were said quake pretty much right underfoot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If a 3.4 is literally right under your house, you'll get a little rattling, akin to a heavy truck going down your street.
(I live in an active quake zone, we get them all the time.
) If it's a few miles off, you might get a slight vibration.
At worst it is very unlikely to so much as shake stuff off shelves, tho it may make an unsecured cupboard door swing open.But I've never seen a house built so poorly that a 3.4 quake *could* damage it, and I wouldn't expect damage even if the house was wattle-and-daub.As to Swiss houses, they are built to withstand a considerable winter snow load, and I'd guess the walls and foundations also need to withstand a lot of frost heave.
Snow load/frost heave cause a lot more structural stress than any quake below about 4.0 or so, even were said quake pretty much right underfoot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450224</id>
	<title>Re:Eggshell defense</title>
	<author>Golddess</author>
	<datestamp>1260873300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>either their houses are made from eggshells, <b>or</b> this is the scam of the century.</p></div><p>I don't think GP meant that the guy shouldn't pay, just that it seems highly suspect that there is so much damage to be paid for.<br>
<br>
I have no experience with quakes, so I'm just going by what GP said as to what a 3.4 quake would do.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>either their houses are made from eggshells , or this is the scam of the century.I do n't think GP meant that the guy should n't pay , just that it seems highly suspect that there is so much damage to be paid for .
I have no experience with quakes , so I 'm just going by what GP said as to what a 3.4 quake would do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>either their houses are made from eggshells, or this is the scam of the century.I don't think GP meant that the guy shouldn't pay, just that it seems highly suspect that there is so much damage to be paid for.
I have no experience with quakes, so I'm just going by what GP said as to what a 3.4 quake would do.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30458202</id>
	<title>Unless you pay me 1 million dollars!</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1259685360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh wait I am being sued for 9 million?</p><p>FAIL.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh wait I am being sued for 9 million ? FAIL .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh wait I am being sued for 9 million?FAIL.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450372</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260873840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Nobody is going to be dumb enough to do that again.</p></div><p>I bet somebody once said that about people rebuilding cities on top of active faults.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobody is going to be dumb enough to do that again.I bet somebody once said that about people rebuilding cities on top of active faults .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobody is going to be dumb enough to do that again.I bet somebody once said that about people rebuilding cities on top of active faults.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453930</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>gmhowell</author>
	<datestamp>1260897840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Nobody is going to be dumb enough to do that again.</p></div><p>I bet somebody once said that about people rebuilding cities on top of active faults.</p></div><p>Or rebuilding castles in swamps?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobody is going to be dumb enough to do that again.I bet somebody once said that about people rebuilding cities on top of active faults.Or rebuilding castles in swamps ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobody is going to be dumb enough to do that again.I bet somebody once said that about people rebuilding cities on top of active faults.Or rebuilding castles in swamps?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451226</id>
	<title>Is it good?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260877380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it good use heat from the center or near center of the earth?<br>I thought every thing works in equilibrium, if we are draining earths core heat for generating electricity at one point of time don't you think that it will create issues?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it good use heat from the center or near center of the earth ? I thought every thing works in equilibrium , if we are draining earths core heat for generating electricity at one point of time do n't you think that it will create issues ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it good use heat from the center or near center of the earth?I thought every thing works in equilibrium, if we are draining earths core heat for generating electricity at one point of time don't you think that it will create issues?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450290</id>
	<title>Jurisprudence</title>
	<author>Korbeau</author>
	<datestamp>1260873540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm eager to see how this trial's decisions will impact the trial against the LHC physicists team in a few months for causing rapid gravitational earth implosion.  At 9M$ for a few km of earth, this could get quite expensive!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm eager to see how this trial 's decisions will impact the trial against the LHC physicists team in a few months for causing rapid gravitational earth implosion .
At 9M $ for a few km of earth , this could get quite expensive !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm eager to see how this trial's decisions will impact the trial against the LHC physicists team in a few months for causing rapid gravitational earth implosion.
At 9M$ for a few km of earth, this could get quite expensive!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30454680</id>
	<title>A Travesty</title>
	<author>b4upoo</author>
	<datestamp>1260906900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>        It is a shame that this fellow is going to be on trial. He obviously had no intent to do harm. And this article does not indicate the he was irresponsible in his efforts. Sometimes bad things happen but that does not mean that someone should be punished.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is a shame that this fellow is going to be on trial .
He obviously had no intent to do harm .
And this article does not indicate the he was irresponsible in his efforts .
Sometimes bad things happen but that does not mean that someone should be punished .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>        It is a shame that this fellow is going to be on trial.
He obviously had no intent to do harm.
And this article does not indicate the he was irresponsible in his efforts.
Sometimes bad things happen but that does not mean that someone should be punished.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30483374</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>RockDoctor</author>
	<datestamp>1261068900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>In Basel, they deliberately fractured an active fault that had previously destroyed the city. Nobody is going to be dumb enough to do that again.</p></div></blockquote><p>Without having RTFA (it's opening in another tab as I type), as a geologist I'd say that you've got to add several significant caveats to your "nobody is going to be dumb enough" assertion:<br>- the destruction of Basel, late 15th century IIRC, was something of a surprise to all concerned, and something of a fluke ; the area didn't (and doesn't) have much of a record of vigorous seismicity (compared to California, for example), and the destruction of the city was IIRC mostly by lake tsunamis generated by a relatively modest quake.<br>- define "active fault", please. One that has had quakes on it in the last decade? or the last century, or the last millennium, or the last ten thousand years? Human lifespans are not really long enough to well address this question, because the Earth can and does operate on much longer timescales. If the last significant quake on the Basel fault had been a mere millennium ago, would we even have sufficient historical records to even be sure that it was a quake? If the last significant quake was 5000 years ago, one could make a reasonable case that it was a response to the stresses of deglaciation of the Alps, and thus unlikely to recur ; it would be very hard to argue against such a claim and would require a lot of detailed (i.e. expensive) field investigation to refute it.<br>There could well be people drilling test wells in what we don't know are seismically threatening areas, and they simply wouldn't know about it.</p><p>OK, I'll RTFA now. [...] Hmm, very little detail. I'd guess that what risk assessment work they did, and what the Swiss government's risk assessments are, would be major features of the evidence to be presented. There may be a case to be made for "reckless conduct" (i.e. not making any reckoning of the risks), or there may be a case to be made for having been wrong in the quantification of the risks involved. The former would, rightly, be reprehensible. But if a risk assessment had been made that resulted in them taking out insurances for (say) 20M, and they found themselves paying out 9M, then you (or their lawyers) could make a strong defence that they had indeed reckoned the risks reasonably.</p><p>(Yes, I am a geologist. And I've now got to go to a risk assessment meeting for a few hundred thousand dollars of equipment rental.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In Basel , they deliberately fractured an active fault that had previously destroyed the city .
Nobody is going to be dumb enough to do that again.Without having RTFA ( it 's opening in another tab as I type ) , as a geologist I 'd say that you 've got to add several significant caveats to your " nobody is going to be dumb enough " assertion : - the destruction of Basel , late 15th century IIRC , was something of a surprise to all concerned , and something of a fluke ; the area did n't ( and does n't ) have much of a record of vigorous seismicity ( compared to California , for example ) , and the destruction of the city was IIRC mostly by lake tsunamis generated by a relatively modest quake.- define " active fault " , please .
One that has had quakes on it in the last decade ?
or the last century , or the last millennium , or the last ten thousand years ?
Human lifespans are not really long enough to well address this question , because the Earth can and does operate on much longer timescales .
If the last significant quake on the Basel fault had been a mere millennium ago , would we even have sufficient historical records to even be sure that it was a quake ?
If the last significant quake was 5000 years ago , one could make a reasonable case that it was a response to the stresses of deglaciation of the Alps , and thus unlikely to recur ; it would be very hard to argue against such a claim and would require a lot of detailed ( i.e .
expensive ) field investigation to refute it.There could well be people drilling test wells in what we do n't know are seismically threatening areas , and they simply would n't know about it.OK , I 'll RTFA now .
[ ... ] Hmm , very little detail .
I 'd guess that what risk assessment work they did , and what the Swiss government 's risk assessments are , would be major features of the evidence to be presented .
There may be a case to be made for " reckless conduct " ( i.e .
not making any reckoning of the risks ) , or there may be a case to be made for having been wrong in the quantification of the risks involved .
The former would , rightly , be reprehensible .
But if a risk assessment had been made that resulted in them taking out insurances for ( say ) 20M , and they found themselves paying out 9M , then you ( or their lawyers ) could make a strong defence that they had indeed reckoned the risks reasonably .
( Yes , I am a geologist .
And I 've now got to go to a risk assessment meeting for a few hundred thousand dollars of equipment rental .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Basel, they deliberately fractured an active fault that had previously destroyed the city.
Nobody is going to be dumb enough to do that again.Without having RTFA (it's opening in another tab as I type), as a geologist I'd say that you've got to add several significant caveats to your "nobody is going to be dumb enough" assertion:- the destruction of Basel, late 15th century IIRC, was something of a surprise to all concerned, and something of a fluke ; the area didn't (and doesn't) have much of a record of vigorous seismicity (compared to California, for example), and the destruction of the city was IIRC mostly by lake tsunamis generated by a relatively modest quake.- define "active fault", please.
One that has had quakes on it in the last decade?
or the last century, or the last millennium, or the last ten thousand years?
Human lifespans are not really long enough to well address this question, because the Earth can and does operate on much longer timescales.
If the last significant quake on the Basel fault had been a mere millennium ago, would we even have sufficient historical records to even be sure that it was a quake?
If the last significant quake was 5000 years ago, one could make a reasonable case that it was a response to the stresses of deglaciation of the Alps, and thus unlikely to recur ; it would be very hard to argue against such a claim and would require a lot of detailed (i.e.
expensive) field investigation to refute it.There could well be people drilling test wells in what we don't know are seismically threatening areas, and they simply wouldn't know about it.OK, I'll RTFA now.
[...] Hmm, very little detail.
I'd guess that what risk assessment work they did, and what the Swiss government's risk assessments are, would be major features of the evidence to be presented.
There may be a case to be made for "reckless conduct" (i.e.
not making any reckoning of the risks), or there may be a case to be made for having been wrong in the quantification of the risks involved.
The former would, rightly, be reprehensible.
But if a risk assessment had been made that resulted in them taking out insurances for (say) 20M, and they found themselves paying out 9M, then you (or their lawyers) could make a strong defence that they had indeed reckoned the risks reasonably.
(Yes, I am a geologist.
And I've now got to go to a risk assessment meeting for a few hundred thousand dollars of equipment rental.
)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30455052</id>
	<title>Re:impossible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259661240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Basel is slightly above village sized. Though I agree, even England has had a few 4.x earthquakes in the past 10 years with little consequence.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Basel is slightly above village sized .
Though I agree , even England has had a few 4.x earthquakes in the past 10 years with little consequence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Basel is slightly above village sized.
Though I agree, even England has had a few 4.x earthquakes in the past 10 years with little consequence.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451170</id>
	<title>impossible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260877200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can't "cause" an earthquake. They are caused by tectonic pressure. You may be able to adjust the timing of one, though.</p><p>Perhaps this man's 3.4 quake actually <b>saved</b> the village from having a 4.0 quake a few years later! Did anyone think of that? Perhaps they should be giving him a medal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't " cause " an earthquake .
They are caused by tectonic pressure .
You may be able to adjust the timing of one , though.Perhaps this man 's 3.4 quake actually saved the village from having a 4.0 quake a few years later !
Did anyone think of that ?
Perhaps they should be giving him a medal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't "cause" an earthquake.
They are caused by tectonic pressure.
You may be able to adjust the timing of one, though.Perhaps this man's 3.4 quake actually saved the village from having a 4.0 quake a few years later!
Did anyone think of that?
Perhaps they should be giving him a medal.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30452876</id>
	<title>They are overreacting...</title>
	<author>polymeris</author>
	<datestamp>1260887100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter\_magnitude\_scale#Richter\_magnitudes" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">3.5 (Richter?) magnitude</a> [wikipedia.org] quake would be enough to be felt from a couple hundred meters away, but scarcely do any damage...  How did they calculate that 9 million USD damage?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A 3.5 ( Richter ?
) magnitude [ wikipedia.org ] quake would be enough to be felt from a couple hundred meters away , but scarcely do any damage... How did they calculate that 9 million USD damage ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A 3.5 (Richter?
) magnitude [wikipedia.org] quake would be enough to be felt from a couple hundred meters away, but scarcely do any damage...  How did they calculate that 9 million USD damage?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449708</id>
	<title>A Learning Experience -</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260871260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How often do you get to cause an earthquake and call it a learning experience?</p><p>How often do you GET TO CAUSE AN EARTHQUAKE?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How often do you get to cause an earthquake and call it a learning experience ? How often do you GET TO CAUSE AN EARTHQUAKE ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How often do you get to cause an earthquake and call it a learning experience?How often do you GET TO CAUSE AN EARTHQUAKE?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30452954</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>Petrushka</author>
	<datestamp>1260887700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I can say with some authority that any structure built in a tectonically active region that cannot safely handle a 3.4 magnitude earthquake was built improperly.</p></div><p>Well, it depends on how deep the quake is. If it's of any depth at all, you're not going to notice a 3.4 quake even if you're standing on the epicentre. But if a 3.4 quake were to happen, say, 20 km underfoot, you might have issues. In many ways the perceptual scale is a more useful human measure.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can say with some authority that any structure built in a tectonically active region that can not safely handle a 3.4 magnitude earthquake was built improperly.Well , it depends on how deep the quake is .
If it 's of any depth at all , you 're not going to notice a 3.4 quake even if you 're standing on the epicentre .
But if a 3.4 quake were to happen , say , 20 km underfoot , you might have issues .
In many ways the perceptual scale is a more useful human measure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can say with some authority that any structure built in a tectonically active region that cannot safely handle a 3.4 magnitude earthquake was built improperly.Well, it depends on how deep the quake is.
If it's of any depth at all, you're not going to notice a 3.4 quake even if you're standing on the epicentre.
But if a 3.4 quake were to happen, say, 20 km underfoot, you might have issues.
In many ways the perceptual scale is a more useful human measure.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449696</id>
	<title>Damages?</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1260871200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>These villagers were scamming the poor guy. $9 million in damages from a *3.4* quake? Cripes, a bus crossing in front of my house is close to 3.4... either their houses are made from eggshells, or this is the scam of the century.</p><p>I'd feel terrible if useful research was suspended because of profiteering townsfolk.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These villagers were scamming the poor guy .
$ 9 million in damages from a * 3.4 * quake ?
Cripes , a bus crossing in front of my house is close to 3.4... either their houses are made from eggshells , or this is the scam of the century.I 'd feel terrible if useful research was suspended because of profiteering townsfolk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These villagers were scamming the poor guy.
$9 million in damages from a *3.4* quake?
Cripes, a bus crossing in front of my house is close to 3.4... either their houses are made from eggshells, or this is the scam of the century.I'd feel terrible if useful research was suspended because of profiteering townsfolk.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449682</id>
	<title>Learning process?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260871200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We learned that causing earthquakes costs 9 million dollars and a 5 year stretch.  I had always wondered.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We learned that causing earthquakes costs 9 million dollars and a 5 year stretch .
I had always wondered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We learned that causing earthquakes costs 9 million dollars and a 5 year stretch.
I had always wondered.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30454212</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260901320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, but Basel City is apparently built on a fault and was once largely destroyed by an earthquake hundreds of years ago.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but Basel City is apparently built on a fault and was once largely destroyed by an earthquake hundreds of years ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but Basel City is apparently built on a fault and was once largely destroyed by an earthquake hundreds of years ago.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449952</id>
	<title>can we go after natural gas companies, too?</title>
	<author>SuperBanana</author>
	<datestamp>1260872220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/business/energy-environment/08fracking.html

</p><p> <i>The drilling boom is raising concern in many parts of the country, and the reaction is creating political obstacles for the gas industry. Hazards like methane contamination of drinking water wells, long known in regions where gas production was common, are spreading to populous areas that have little history of coping with such risks, but happen to sit atop shale beds.<br> <br>

And a more worrisome possibility has come to light. A string of incidents in places like Wyoming and Pennsylvania in recent years has pointed to a possible link between hydraulic fracturing and pollution of groundwater supplies. In the worst case, such pollution could damage crucial supplies of water used for drinking and agriculture</i>

</p><p>It isn't going to be climate change that kills us.  We won't have any clean water to drink.  Fun fact: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/business/energy-environment/08water.html" title="nytimes.com">the "safe water drinking act" isn't being enforced by the EPA</a> [nytimes.com], and even water that has very unhealthy level of arsenic is "safe". Does a 1-in-600 chance of getting bladder cancer sound "safe" to you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/business/energy-environment/08fracking.html The drilling boom is raising concern in many parts of the country , and the reaction is creating political obstacles for the gas industry .
Hazards like methane contamination of drinking water wells , long known in regions where gas production was common , are spreading to populous areas that have little history of coping with such risks , but happen to sit atop shale beds .
And a more worrisome possibility has come to light .
A string of incidents in places like Wyoming and Pennsylvania in recent years has pointed to a possible link between hydraulic fracturing and pollution of groundwater supplies .
In the worst case , such pollution could damage crucial supplies of water used for drinking and agriculture It is n't going to be climate change that kills us .
We wo n't have any clean water to drink .
Fun fact : the " safe water drinking act " is n't being enforced by the EPA [ nytimes.com ] , and even water that has very unhealthy level of arsenic is " safe " .
Does a 1-in-600 chance of getting bladder cancer sound " safe " to you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/business/energy-environment/08fracking.html

 The drilling boom is raising concern in many parts of the country, and the reaction is creating political obstacles for the gas industry.
Hazards like methane contamination of drinking water wells, long known in regions where gas production was common, are spreading to populous areas that have little history of coping with such risks, but happen to sit atop shale beds.
And a more worrisome possibility has come to light.
A string of incidents in places like Wyoming and Pennsylvania in recent years has pointed to a possible link between hydraulic fracturing and pollution of groundwater supplies.
In the worst case, such pollution could damage crucial supplies of water used for drinking and agriculture

It isn't going to be climate change that kills us.
We won't have any clean water to drink.
Fun fact: the "safe water drinking act" isn't being enforced by the EPA [nytimes.com], and even water that has very unhealthy level of arsenic is "safe".
Does a 1-in-600 chance of getting bladder cancer sound "safe" to you?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451278</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>zoloto</author>
	<datestamp>1260877740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The next thing you know, they'll be doing it next to volcanoes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The next thing you know , they 'll be doing it next to volcanoes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The next thing you know, they'll be doing it next to volcanoes.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449876</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>NotBornYesterday</author>
	<datestamp>1260871920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder if they had anyone from Iceland consulting on this.  They have lots of geothermal heating and power generation there on a geologically active land mass, but AFAIK, they've avoided triggering earthquakes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if they had anyone from Iceland consulting on this .
They have lots of geothermal heating and power generation there on a geologically active land mass , but AFAIK , they 've avoided triggering earthquakes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if they had anyone from Iceland consulting on this.
They have lots of geothermal heating and power generation there on a geologically active land mass, but AFAIK, they've avoided triggering earthquakes.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30452520</id>
	<title>Damaging even when not causing quakes</title>
	<author>Lars T.</author>
	<datestamp>1260884520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>At least one drilling caused <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staufen\_im\_Breisgau#Geothermal\_drilling\_controversy" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">cracks in dozens of buildings</a> [wikipedia.org], and a month ago one <a href="http://www.thelocal.de/national/20091106-23071.html" title="thelocal.de" rel="nofollow">caused water to gush from holes</a> [thelocal.de] around the site for several hours.</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least one drilling caused cracks in dozens of buildings [ wikipedia.org ] , and a month ago one caused water to gush from holes [ thelocal.de ] around the site for several hours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least one drilling caused cracks in dozens of buildings [wikipedia.org], and a month ago one caused water to gush from holes [thelocal.de] around the site for several hours.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30454072</id>
	<title>Re:impossible</title>
	<author>zippthorne</author>
	<datestamp>1260899580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem is, it's very difficult to measure "damages that would've happened, but now won't" even if, when subtracting that from the "damages that did occur" they should probably be paying the geologist rather than the other way around.</p><p>This sort of thing happens all the time and is one of the reasons naive presidents keep push for massive spendulous bills.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is , it 's very difficult to measure " damages that would 've happened , but now wo n't " even if , when subtracting that from the " damages that did occur " they should probably be paying the geologist rather than the other way around.This sort of thing happens all the time and is one of the reasons naive presidents keep push for massive spendulous bills .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is, it's very difficult to measure "damages that would've happened, but now won't" even if, when subtracting that from the "damages that did occur" they should probably be paying the geologist rather than the other way around.This sort of thing happens all the time and is one of the reasons naive presidents keep push for massive spendulous bills.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451170</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451152</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260877080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some parts of the world are more used to earthquakes than others, and plan accordingly. I'm guessing (from a quick glance at your blog) that you're in the USA - western? Your houses are probably designed to be quake-proof, and a 3.4 quake will do nothing but rattle your plates. Here in Europe most housing is traditional stone, and earthquakes are something that happens in far-flung corners of the Earth.<br>Disclaimer - I don't know how severe a 3.4 quake is, maybe it really is inconsequential - but my point still stands in that it probably caused the residents of Basel to shit themselves. (Far from villagers, too, BTW)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some parts of the world are more used to earthquakes than others , and plan accordingly .
I 'm guessing ( from a quick glance at your blog ) that you 're in the USA - western ?
Your houses are probably designed to be quake-proof , and a 3.4 quake will do nothing but rattle your plates .
Here in Europe most housing is traditional stone , and earthquakes are something that happens in far-flung corners of the Earth.Disclaimer - I do n't know how severe a 3.4 quake is , maybe it really is inconsequential - but my point still stands in that it probably caused the residents of Basel to shit themselves .
( Far from villagers , too , BTW )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some parts of the world are more used to earthquakes than others, and plan accordingly.
I'm guessing (from a quick glance at your blog) that you're in the USA - western?
Your houses are probably designed to be quake-proof, and a 3.4 quake will do nothing but rattle your plates.
Here in Europe most housing is traditional stone, and earthquakes are something that happens in far-flung corners of the Earth.Disclaimer - I don't know how severe a 3.4 quake is, maybe it really is inconsequential - but my point still stands in that it probably caused the residents of Basel to shit themselves.
(Far from villagers, too, BTW)</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450452</id>
	<title>Tesla...</title>
	<author>PhantomHarlock</author>
	<datestamp>1260874140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Eh, Tesla did it 100 years ago, if the stories and his autobiography are to be believed<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Eh , Tesla did it 100 years ago , if the stories and his autobiography are to be believed : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eh, Tesla did it 100 years ago, if the stories and his autobiography are to be believed :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30454230</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260901620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is not only the magnitude that matters when considering potential to cause damage, but also the depth and proximity to built structures, amongst various other factors. In this case water was pumped into rock at high pressure, causing the rock to fracture - the goal was to heat the water and pump it back out. The company who did this said that at worst this process could case "microquakes", a term given to a type of earthquakes that do not exceed about 2.2 on the Richter scale. The fact that counter to these predictions there was a sequence of many quakes over a short period of time, many of which surpassed this limit, with three greater than magnitude 3.4 in as many days, clearly indicates that the people involved did NOT understand the tectonic effects and hence the risks involved. Remember, it is a logarithmic scale<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>If you make a prediction and are proved wrong, by more than an order of magnitude, you did not know what you were talking about in the first place.</p><p>PS: I saw the damage first hand. No injuries, but plenty of damage to facades, etc. I'm told it sounded like a bomb.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is not only the magnitude that matters when considering potential to cause damage , but also the depth and proximity to built structures , amongst various other factors .
In this case water was pumped into rock at high pressure , causing the rock to fracture - the goal was to heat the water and pump it back out .
The company who did this said that at worst this process could case " microquakes " , a term given to a type of earthquakes that do not exceed about 2.2 on the Richter scale .
The fact that counter to these predictions there was a sequence of many quakes over a short period of time , many of which surpassed this limit , with three greater than magnitude 3.4 in as many days , clearly indicates that the people involved did NOT understand the tectonic effects and hence the risks involved .
Remember , it is a logarithmic scale ...If you make a prediction and are proved wrong , by more than an order of magnitude , you did not know what you were talking about in the first place.PS : I saw the damage first hand .
No injuries , but plenty of damage to facades , etc .
I 'm told it sounded like a bomb .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is not only the magnitude that matters when considering potential to cause damage, but also the depth and proximity to built structures, amongst various other factors.
In this case water was pumped into rock at high pressure, causing the rock to fracture - the goal was to heat the water and pump it back out.
The company who did this said that at worst this process could case "microquakes", a term given to a type of earthquakes that do not exceed about 2.2 on the Richter scale.
The fact that counter to these predictions there was a sequence of many quakes over a short period of time, many of which surpassed this limit, with three greater than magnitude 3.4 in as many days, clearly indicates that the people involved did NOT understand the tectonic effects and hence the risks involved.
Remember, it is a logarithmic scale ...If you make a prediction and are proved wrong, by more than an order of magnitude, you did not know what you were talking about in the first place.PS: I saw the damage first hand.
No injuries, but plenty of damage to facades, etc.
I'm told it sounded like a bomb.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450822</id>
	<title>Should have used protection</title>
	<author>AP31R0N</author>
	<datestamp>1260875460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He should have employed sheep's bladders.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He should have employed sheep 's bladders .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He should have employed sheep's bladders.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450078</id>
	<title>Whattaya in for?</title>
	<author>wcrowe</author>
	<datestamp>1260872760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since they mentioned criminal charges, I just imagined him being placed in a cell with other suspects...</p><p>Cellmate: "What are you in for?"</p><p>Haering: "Causing earthquakes."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since they mentioned criminal charges , I just imagined him being placed in a cell with other suspects...Cellmate : " What are you in for ?
" Haering : " Causing earthquakes .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since they mentioned criminal charges, I just imagined him being placed in a cell with other suspects...Cellmate: "What are you in for?
"Haering: "Causing earthquakes.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30455630</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>Xest</author>
	<datestamp>1259669100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It really is inconsequential.</p><p>We had a 5.2 magnitude earthquake in the UK back in 2007 and the worst that happened is one guy got a broken pelvis because he lived in a really old house where the chimney stack fell through, but that was one injury across the whole country. Other than that, about the worst that happens is the odd chimney stack (that was probably dangerous anyway) topples or a few tiles fall off people's roofs.</p><p>We have earthquakes of around 3.4 a few times a year in the UK and no one even notices. We had a 3.7 back in the first half of this year and it wasn't even newsworthy.</p><p>Far from shitting themselves over this, I'd be amazed if the majority of people even noticed the quake rather than simply put it down to a plane flying overhead, a truck driving past their house, if they even noticed anything at all.</p><p>Even houses not designed at all for earthquakes would almost certainly suffer no damage from such a quake because even heavy wind will likely put more stress on such a structure than this would.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It really is inconsequential.We had a 5.2 magnitude earthquake in the UK back in 2007 and the worst that happened is one guy got a broken pelvis because he lived in a really old house where the chimney stack fell through , but that was one injury across the whole country .
Other than that , about the worst that happens is the odd chimney stack ( that was probably dangerous anyway ) topples or a few tiles fall off people 's roofs.We have earthquakes of around 3.4 a few times a year in the UK and no one even notices .
We had a 3.7 back in the first half of this year and it was n't even newsworthy.Far from shitting themselves over this , I 'd be amazed if the majority of people even noticed the quake rather than simply put it down to a plane flying overhead , a truck driving past their house , if they even noticed anything at all.Even houses not designed at all for earthquakes would almost certainly suffer no damage from such a quake because even heavy wind will likely put more stress on such a structure than this would .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It really is inconsequential.We had a 5.2 magnitude earthquake in the UK back in 2007 and the worst that happened is one guy got a broken pelvis because he lived in a really old house where the chimney stack fell through, but that was one injury across the whole country.
Other than that, about the worst that happens is the odd chimney stack (that was probably dangerous anyway) topples or a few tiles fall off people's roofs.We have earthquakes of around 3.4 a few times a year in the UK and no one even notices.
We had a 3.7 back in the first half of this year and it wasn't even newsworthy.Far from shitting themselves over this, I'd be amazed if the majority of people even noticed the quake rather than simply put it down to a plane flying overhead, a truck driving past their house, if they even noticed anything at all.Even houses not designed at all for earthquakes would almost certainly suffer no damage from such a quake because even heavy wind will likely put more stress on such a structure than this would.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451532</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>Chris Burke</author>
	<datestamp>1260879000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>either their houses are made from eggshells, or this is the scam of the century.</i></p><p>Eh, not really.  3.4 may be a fairly trivial earthquake, but $9 million is a pretty trivial amount for total damages to a decent-sized city from an earthquake.  You don't need very many office buildings with broken windows or extremely old (and thus not in any way quake-proof) buildings to be slightly damaged across a city to equal $9mil.  If the epicenter was nearby, and it sounds like it was, then that doesn't strike me as unreasonable and certainly not a matter of profiteering.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>either their houses are made from eggshells , or this is the scam of the century.Eh , not really .
3.4 may be a fairly trivial earthquake , but $ 9 million is a pretty trivial amount for total damages to a decent-sized city from an earthquake .
You do n't need very many office buildings with broken windows or extremely old ( and thus not in any way quake-proof ) buildings to be slightly damaged across a city to equal $ 9mil .
If the epicenter was nearby , and it sounds like it was , then that does n't strike me as unreasonable and certainly not a matter of profiteering .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>either their houses are made from eggshells, or this is the scam of the century.Eh, not really.
3.4 may be a fairly trivial earthquake, but $9 million is a pretty trivial amount for total damages to a decent-sized city from an earthquake.
You don't need very many office buildings with broken windows or extremely old (and thus not in any way quake-proof) buildings to be slightly damaged across a city to equal $9mil.
If the epicenter was nearby, and it sounds like it was, then that doesn't strike me as unreasonable and certainly not a matter of profiteering.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453692</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>macshit</author>
	<datestamp>1260895200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't know how severe a 3.4 quake is, maybe it really is inconsequential - but my point still stands in that it probably caused the residents of Basel to shit themselves.</p></div><p>It seems very unlikely, as a 3.4 quake is extremely weak -- like a truck passing.  People may have <em>noticed</em> it, but It's hard to believe they shat themselves or had property damaged (even minor damage like glasses falling off the table is unlikely).
</p><p>This basically sounds like people are simply scared of what they think <em>might</em> happen ("tampering with mother nature!" and that sort of thing), and are abusing the law to shut this guy down.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know how severe a 3.4 quake is , maybe it really is inconsequential - but my point still stands in that it probably caused the residents of Basel to shit themselves.It seems very unlikely , as a 3.4 quake is extremely weak -- like a truck passing .
People may have noticed it , but It 's hard to believe they shat themselves or had property damaged ( even minor damage like glasses falling off the table is unlikely ) .
This basically sounds like people are simply scared of what they think might happen ( " tampering with mother nature !
" and that sort of thing ) , and are abusing the law to shut this guy down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know how severe a 3.4 quake is, maybe it really is inconsequential - but my point still stands in that it probably caused the residents of Basel to shit themselves.It seems very unlikely, as a 3.4 quake is extremely weak -- like a truck passing.
People may have noticed it, but It's hard to believe they shat themselves or had property damaged (even minor damage like glasses falling off the table is unlikely).
This basically sounds like people are simply scared of what they think might happen ("tampering with mother nature!
" and that sort of thing), and are abusing the law to shut this guy down.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449900</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260872040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'd feel terrible if useful research was suspended because of profiteering townsfolk.</p></div><p>I'd take that over profiteering governments any day.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd feel terrible if useful research was suspended because of profiteering townsfolk.I 'd take that over profiteering governments any day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd feel terrible if useful research was suspended because of profiteering townsfolk.I'd take that over profiteering governments any day.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451476</id>
	<title>causing an earthquake or just triggering it ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260878640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder, if they are really 'causing' those earthquakes or if the tension is already there and building up further over time and those drillings just trigger an earthquake early that would happen anyway at some point.<br>I mean, if tension is building up over time and nothing disturbes that process, it might actually build up to a high level, but it WILL most likely result in a strong earthquake at some point. If someone disturbes that process by drilling, I can imagine that that earthquake happens earlier, but won't be that strong either, because the tension that has been built up is not so high as in the other case. Just wondering/asking...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder , if they are really 'causing ' those earthquakes or if the tension is already there and building up further over time and those drillings just trigger an earthquake early that would happen anyway at some point.I mean , if tension is building up over time and nothing disturbes that process , it might actually build up to a high level , but it WILL most likely result in a strong earthquake at some point .
If someone disturbes that process by drilling , I can imagine that that earthquake happens earlier , but wo n't be that strong either , because the tension that has been built up is not so high as in the other case .
Just wondering/asking.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder, if they are really 'causing' those earthquakes or if the tension is already there and building up further over time and those drillings just trigger an earthquake early that would happen anyway at some point.I mean, if tension is building up over time and nothing disturbes that process, it might actually build up to a high level, but it WILL most likely result in a strong earthquake at some point.
If someone disturbes that process by drilling, I can imagine that that earthquake happens earlier, but won't be that strong either, because the tension that has been built up is not so high as in the other case.
Just wondering/asking...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453318</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1260890820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Here in Europe most housing is traditional stone, and earthquakes are something that happens in far-flung corners of the Earth."</p><p>Such as Turkey...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Here in Europe most housing is traditional stone , and earthquakes are something that happens in far-flung corners of the Earth .
" Such as Turkey.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Here in Europe most housing is traditional stone, and earthquakes are something that happens in far-flung corners of the Earth.
"Such as Turkey...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450088</id>
	<title>I thought algore said</title>
	<author>Cornwallis</author>
	<datestamp>1260872820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the temperature was in the millions of degrees? What's with this 195C sissy stuff?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the temperature was in the millions of degrees ?
What 's with this 195C sissy stuff ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the temperature was in the millions of degrees?
What's with this 195C sissy stuff?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451692</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>Chris Burke</author>
	<datestamp>1260879780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I can't even fathom reckless disregard for safety in this context, but willful destruction?</i></p><p>If he had reason to believe that his tests could cause an earthquake, yet proceeded anyway, that's willful.  It doesn't matter that causing destruction wasn't actually his goal.  You can't get away from the consequences of your actions -- in particular those you were aware of in advance -- by writing them off as "undesirable side-effects" or "collateral damage".</p><p>Though in TFA he says those involved in the project had "very little knowledge of seismicity", which could make this fall into the category of willful negligence.  I'm no geothermal power expert, but it's <i>for that exact reason</i> that if I were going to be drilling right around a seismically active area that I'd want to make sure I had someone who had "knowledge of seismicity", like say a seismologist, hanging around.  Having something unforeseen happen as a result of your actions, because you didn't do the due diligence to foresee it, is negligence.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't even fathom reckless disregard for safety in this context , but willful destruction ? If he had reason to believe that his tests could cause an earthquake , yet proceeded anyway , that 's willful .
It does n't matter that causing destruction was n't actually his goal .
You ca n't get away from the consequences of your actions -- in particular those you were aware of in advance -- by writing them off as " undesirable side-effects " or " collateral damage " .Though in TFA he says those involved in the project had " very little knowledge of seismicity " , which could make this fall into the category of willful negligence .
I 'm no geothermal power expert , but it 's for that exact reason that if I were going to be drilling right around a seismically active area that I 'd want to make sure I had someone who had " knowledge of seismicity " , like say a seismologist , hanging around .
Having something unforeseen happen as a result of your actions , because you did n't do the due diligence to foresee it , is negligence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't even fathom reckless disregard for safety in this context, but willful destruction?If he had reason to believe that his tests could cause an earthquake, yet proceeded anyway, that's willful.
It doesn't matter that causing destruction wasn't actually his goal.
You can't get away from the consequences of your actions -- in particular those you were aware of in advance -- by writing them off as "undesirable side-effects" or "collateral damage".Though in TFA he says those involved in the project had "very little knowledge of seismicity", which could make this fall into the category of willful negligence.
I'm no geothermal power expert, but it's for that exact reason that if I were going to be drilling right around a seismically active area that I'd want to make sure I had someone who had "knowledge of seismicity", like say a seismologist, hanging around.
Having something unforeseen happen as a result of your actions, because you didn't do the due diligence to foresee it, is negligence.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450234</id>
	<title>James Bond Villian</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1260873300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Switzerland: The Bond Villain of the European Union...</p><p>No wonder they have all of the Gold there.....</p><p>"Pay us one Beeellion dollars or your cities get shaken, not stirred..."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Switzerland : The Bond Villain of the European Union...No wonder they have all of the Gold there..... " Pay us one Beeellion dollars or your cities get shaken , not stirred... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Switzerland: The Bond Villain of the European Union...No wonder they have all of the Gold there....."Pay us one Beeellion dollars or your cities get shaken, not stirred..."</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450084</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260872760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's no sense crying when you make a mistake; you just keep on trying till you run out of cake.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's no sense crying when you make a mistake ; you just keep on trying till you run out of cake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's no sense crying when you make a mistake; you just keep on trying till you run out of cake.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449742</id>
	<title>Tesla</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260871440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Reminds one of this: <a href="http://www.excludedmiddle.com/earthquake.htm" title="excludedmiddle.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.excludedmiddle.com/earthquake.htm</a> [excludedmiddle.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds one of this : http : //www.excludedmiddle.com/earthquake.htm [ excludedmiddle.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds one of this: http://www.excludedmiddle.com/earthquake.htm [excludedmiddle.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30452096</id>
	<title>Re:Here we go...</title>
	<author>Bogtha</author>
	<datestamp>1260881880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even if he is, it's understandable.  He's working on ground-breaking technology.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if he is , it 's understandable .
He 's working on ground-breaking technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if he is, it's understandable.
He's working on ground-breaking technology.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30449968</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451300</id>
	<title>Re:can we go after natural gas companies, too?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260877860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just visited Mount Rushmore, and there are signs on the fountains stating that the EPA lowered the accepted arsenic level from 50ppm to 10ppm, but the water there actually has 12ppm. Are you 1/600 Rushmore tourists are going to get bladder cancer due to the 20\% extra arsenic in the Coke?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just visited Mount Rushmore , and there are signs on the fountains stating that the EPA lowered the accepted arsenic level from 50ppm to 10ppm , but the water there actually has 12ppm .
Are you 1/600 Rushmore tourists are going to get bladder cancer due to the 20 \ % extra arsenic in the Coke ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just visited Mount Rushmore, and there are signs on the fountains stating that the EPA lowered the accepted arsenic level from 50ppm to 10ppm, but the water there actually has 12ppm.
Are you 1/600 Rushmore tourists are going to get bladder cancer due to the 20\% extra arsenic in the Coke?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30450948</id>
	<title>Re:US project shut down</title>
	<author>Grishnakh</author>
	<datestamp>1260876120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I completely disagree.  They need to move that project to the LA area, and drill until an earthquake happens that's so massive that LA is swallowed up entirely.</p><p>Then they need to move to Detroit and try to do the same thing there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I completely disagree .
They need to move that project to the LA area , and drill until an earthquake happens that 's so massive that LA is swallowed up entirely.Then they need to move to Detroit and try to do the same thing there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I completely disagree.
They need to move that project to the LA area, and drill until an earthquake happens that's so massive that LA is swallowed up entirely.Then they need to move to Detroit and try to do the same thing there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453496</id>
	<title>Re:Damages?</title>
	<author>GreatBunzinni</author>
	<datestamp>1260892920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You failed to realize that similar incidents already caused <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidoarjo\_mud\_flow" title="wikipedia.org">devastating results</a> [wikipedia.org]. So, a 3.4 earthquake now may be much of a disaster but that doesn't mean that sort of stuff can't be extremely damaging.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You failed to realize that similar incidents already caused devastating results [ wikipedia.org ] .
So , a 3.4 earthquake now may be much of a disaster but that does n't mean that sort of stuff ca n't be extremely damaging .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You failed to realize that similar incidents already caused devastating results [wikipedia.org].
So, a 3.4 earthquake now may be much of a disaster but that doesn't mean that sort of stuff can't be extremely damaging.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30455076</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259661540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And they say the LHC won't swallow our planet with a synthetic black hole...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And they say the LHC wo n't swallow our planet with a synthetic black hole... : -D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And they say the LHC won't swallow our planet with a synthetic black hole... :-D</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453040</id>
	<title>maybe yes, maybe no</title>
	<author>mbessey</author>
	<datestamp>1260888540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does tension build up and then sometimes you get big slips and thus big quakes? So maybe causing an earthquake a day is a good idea?</p></div><p>Generally speaking, tension builds up in multiple places on the fault at once, then a series of slips occur as the rocks in the various places let go. So, yeah - in general, multiple small quakes in one location will relieve tension that would otherwise ultimately cause a bigger quake there. The boundary between the two "sides" of a fault is very very complex, though, so it's impossible to determine what exactly will happen to the rest of the fault when a particular slippage occurs.</p><p>For instance, whenever part of the fault moves, some part of that tension is transferred to somewhere else on the fault. If that happens to push that part of the fault over it's limit, it'll let go, causing tension on other parts to change... This can ultimately lead to the whole fault moving at once - which gives you the 1906 San Francisco earthquake.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does tension build up and then sometimes you get big slips and thus big quakes ?
So maybe causing an earthquake a day is a good idea ? Generally speaking , tension builds up in multiple places on the fault at once , then a series of slips occur as the rocks in the various places let go .
So , yeah - in general , multiple small quakes in one location will relieve tension that would otherwise ultimately cause a bigger quake there .
The boundary between the two " sides " of a fault is very very complex , though , so it 's impossible to determine what exactly will happen to the rest of the fault when a particular slippage occurs.For instance , whenever part of the fault moves , some part of that tension is transferred to somewhere else on the fault .
If that happens to push that part of the fault over it 's limit , it 'll let go , causing tension on other parts to change... This can ultimately lead to the whole fault moving at once - which gives you the 1906 San Francisco earthquake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does tension build up and then sometimes you get big slips and thus big quakes?
So maybe causing an earthquake a day is a good idea?Generally speaking, tension builds up in multiple places on the fault at once, then a series of slips occur as the rocks in the various places let go.
So, yeah - in general, multiple small quakes in one location will relieve tension that would otherwise ultimately cause a bigger quake there.
The boundary between the two "sides" of a fault is very very complex, though, so it's impossible to determine what exactly will happen to the rest of the fault when a particular slippage occurs.For instance, whenever part of the fault moves, some part of that tension is transferred to somewhere else on the fault.
If that happens to push that part of the fault over it's limit, it'll let go, causing tension on other parts to change... This can ultimately lead to the whole fault moving at once - which gives you the 1906 San Francisco earthquake.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453792</id>
	<title>Re:can we go after natural gas companies, too?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260896100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Disclaimer: I work in the natural gas industry.</p><p>I have been in the industry for a little over a year now, and I have not heard a single case of contamination of drinking well water.  In fact, I drank out of a few different wells right next to old (50 year old+) well heads, and that article is bunk.  It says so in the article.  Did you even bother reading it?</p><p>FTFA you posted: "So far, the evidence of groundwater pollution is thin."  You know why?  Cause it happens very infrequently on ACCIDENT.  And seriously dude, you have to break some eggs to make an omelet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Disclaimer : I work in the natural gas industry.I have been in the industry for a little over a year now , and I have not heard a single case of contamination of drinking well water .
In fact , I drank out of a few different wells right next to old ( 50 year old + ) well heads , and that article is bunk .
It says so in the article .
Did you even bother reading it ? FTFA you posted : " So far , the evidence of groundwater pollution is thin .
" You know why ?
Cause it happens very infrequently on ACCIDENT .
And seriously dude , you have to break some eggs to make an omelet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Disclaimer: I work in the natural gas industry.I have been in the industry for a little over a year now, and I have not heard a single case of contamination of drinking well water.
In fact, I drank out of a few different wells right next to old (50 year old+) well heads, and that article is bunk.
It says so in the article.
Did you even bother reading it?FTFA you posted: "So far, the evidence of groundwater pollution is thin.
"  You know why?
Cause it happens very infrequently on ACCIDENT.
And seriously dude, you have to break some eggs to make an omelet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30455194</id>
	<title>Re:Blahgh</title>
	<author>lxs</author>
	<datestamp>1259664240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Bird killers" makes it sound so evil. Call them "Automated Dinosaur Culling Devices" and public acceptance will soar. Open a KFC underneath preferably with a large net on the roof and the natural cycle will be complete.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Bird killers " makes it sound so evil .
Call them " Automated Dinosaur Culling Devices " and public acceptance will soar .
Open a KFC underneath preferably with a large net on the roof and the natural cycle will be complete .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Bird killers" makes it sound so evil.
Call them "Automated Dinosaur Culling Devices" and public acceptance will soar.
Open a KFC underneath preferably with a large net on the roof and the natural cycle will be complete.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30451572</id>
	<title>He Did It Wrong</title>
	<author>BJ\_Covert\_Action</author>
	<datestamp>1260879180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The guy wants to produce useful energy from a fault line location with drills and geothermal power plants? Pssssh amateur. Here in California we learned a long time ago that the best type of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo\_Canyon\_Power\_Plant" title="wikipedia.org">power plant to build on a fault line</a> [wikipedia.org] is the nuclear variant.
<br> <br>
That's how we roll. =D</htmltext>
<tokenext>The guy wants to produce useful energy from a fault line location with drills and geothermal power plants ?
Pssssh amateur .
Here in California we learned a long time ago that the best type of power plant to build on a fault line [ wikipedia.org ] is the nuclear variant .
That 's how we roll .
= D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The guy wants to produce useful energy from a fault line location with drills and geothermal power plants?
Pssssh amateur.
Here in California we learned a long time ago that the best type of power plant to build on a fault line [wikipedia.org] is the nuclear variant.
That's how we roll.
=D</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_2037250.30453088</id>
	<title>Re:US project shut down</title>
	<author>penguinchris</author>
	<datestamp>1260888960000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>There is evidence for that, but is far from being well understood. You can definitely say that stress is relieved by earthquakes, making the next one to not be as large as it might have been had the entire stress from both been released at once.</p><p>However, one thing (among others) that makes it complicated is that faults are better described as fault zones - there may be hundreds or thousands of smaller faults taking up slip from the main fault, and movement on any of them could cause an earthquake. And an earthquake could potentially shift the structures in a way so as to create more stress in another area (though physically this is unlikely), which would mean an even bigger earthquake next time.</p><p>It would be cool to experiment with this, though. If you could reliably cause small earthquakes from deep drilling and set them off regularly, you could learn a whole lot about how this works. However, you're still stuck with the problem we have now - in order to figure out if your models and theories are correct, you have to wait until a big earthquake occurs and see how it fits in your model. If you experimented with drilling, you would have to keep doing it potentially forever to figure out if it works. You won't know if it works or not unless there is a big earthquake that wasn't caused by you, proving that it doesn't work. The recurrence interval for large earthquakes (I mean exceedingly damaging ones) in Southern California, a very active area, is about 100-200 years. Of course, there are several fault zones that could rupture, meaning the actual probability of a big one is higher than that - for example, a large rupture of the San Andreas is different from a rupture on the thrust faults north of LA (one of which caused the 1994 Northridge earthquake) and the recurrence intervals are different. So that means that your experiment is most likely going to run out of money before you figure anything out, and the most likely thing you're going to figure out is that it doesn't work<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) Depending on who you listen to, the San Andreas may be "overdue" for a large rupture, and many are expecting one (potentially devastating) within 20-30 years... but even that is exceedingly long to experiment with expensive drilling.</p><p>IAAG(eologist) in grad school in Southern California</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is evidence for that , but is far from being well understood .
You can definitely say that stress is relieved by earthquakes , making the next one to not be as large as it might have been had the entire stress from both been released at once.However , one thing ( among others ) that makes it complicated is that faults are better described as fault zones - there may be hundreds or thousands of smaller faults taking up slip from the main fault , and movement on any of them could cause an earthquake .
And an earthquake could potentially shift the structures in a way so as to create more stress in another area ( though physically this is unlikely ) , which would mean an even bigger earthquake next time.It would be cool to experiment with this , though .
If you could reliably cause small earthquakes from deep drilling and set them off regularly , you could learn a whole lot about how this works .
However , you 're still stuck with the problem we have now - in order to figure out if your models and theories are correct , you have to wait until a big earthquake occurs and see how it fits in your model .
If you experimented with drilling , you would have to keep doing it potentially forever to figure out if it works .
You wo n't know if it works or not unless there is a big earthquake that was n't caused by you , proving that it does n't work .
The recurrence interval for large earthquakes ( I mean exceedingly damaging ones ) in Southern California , a very active area , is about 100-200 years .
Of course , there are several fault zones that could rupture , meaning the actual probability of a big one is higher than that - for example , a large rupture of the San Andreas is different from a rupture on the thrust faults north of LA ( one of which caused the 1994 Northridge earthquake ) and the recurrence intervals are different .
So that means that your experiment is most likely going to run out of money before you figure anything out , and the most likely thing you 're going to figure out is that it does n't work : ) Depending on who you listen to , the San Andreas may be " overdue " for a large rupture , and many are expecting one ( potentially devastating ) within 20-30 years... but even that is exceedingly long to experiment with expensive drilling.IAAG ( eologist ) in grad school in Southern California</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is evidence for that, but is far from being well understood.
You can definitely say that stress is relieved by earthquakes, making the next one to not be as large as it might have been had the entire stress from both been released at once.However, one thing (among others) that makes it complicated is that faults are better described as fault zones - there may be hundreds or thousands of smaller faults taking up slip from the main fault, and movement on any of them could cause an earthquake.
And an earthquake could potentially shift the structures in a way so as to create more stress in another area (though physically this is unlikely), which would mean an even bigger earthquake next time.It would be cool to experiment with this, though.
If you could reliably cause small earthquakes from deep drilling and set them off regularly, you could learn a whole lot about how this works.
However, you're still stuck with the problem we have now - in order to figure out if your models and theories are correct, you have to wait until a big earthquake occurs and see how it fits in your model.
If you experimented with drilling, you would have to keep doing it potentially forever to figure out if it works.
You won't know if it works or not unless there is a big earthquake that wasn't caused by you, proving that it doesn't work.
The recurrence interval for large earthquakes (I mean exceedingly damaging ones) in Southern California, a very active area, is about 100-200 years.
Of course, there are several fault zones that could rupture, meaning the actual probability of a big one is higher than that - for example, a large rupture of the San Andreas is different from a rupture on the thrust faults north of LA (one of which caused the 1994 Northridge earthquake) and the recurrence intervals are different.
So that means that your experiment is most likely going to run out of money before you figure anything out, and the most likely thing you're going to figure out is that it doesn't work :) Depending on who you listen to, the San Andreas may be "overdue" for a large rupture, and many are expecting one (potentially devastating) within 20-30 years... but even that is exceedingly long to experiment with expensive drilling.IAAG(eologist) in grad school in Southern California</sentencetext>
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