<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_15_1323247</id>
	<title>Google Unveils goo.gl URL Shortening Service</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1260884940000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>eldavojohn writes <i>"The Sultan of Search is <a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/14/googl-challenges-bitly-as-king-of-the-short/">unveiling a new service</a> (currently only available for Google Toolbar and Feedburner) that will tackle a very old problem usually solved by bit.ly or tinyurl &mdash; URL shortening.  Now, we've heard <a href="//developers.slashdot.org/story/09/04/12/1834205/Can-revcanonical-Replace-URL-Shortening-Services">cries for sanity</a> to prevent <a href="//ask.slashdot.org/story/07/11/18/1319201/Do-Tiny-URL-Services-Weaken-Net-Architecture">potential issues</a> (like what if <a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/19/120206/URL-Shortener-trim-To-Go-Community-Owned-Open-Source">tr.im had shut down and broken millions of links</a>?) but with one of the goliaths of the industry jumping in the ring it looks like URL shortening is here to stay.  And a quick note for people who enjoy privacy, goo.gl explicitly states: 'Please note that Google may choose to publicly display aggregate and non-personally identifiable statistics about particular shortened links, such as the number of end user clicks.'  You didn't think Google was going to sit back and let bit.ly harvest juicy data on 2.1 billion links that were clicked in November without trying to corner some of that action to make their ad suggestions more accurate, did you?"</i> Google's shortening service is called <a href="http://goo.gl/">Goo.gl</a>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>eldavojohn writes " The Sultan of Search is unveiling a new service ( currently only available for Google Toolbar and Feedburner ) that will tackle a very old problem usually solved by bit.ly or tinyurl    URL shortening .
Now , we 've heard cries for sanity to prevent potential issues ( like what if tr.im had shut down and broken millions of links ?
) but with one of the goliaths of the industry jumping in the ring it looks like URL shortening is here to stay .
And a quick note for people who enjoy privacy , goo.gl explicitly states : 'Please note that Google may choose to publicly display aggregate and non-personally identifiable statistics about particular shortened links , such as the number of end user clicks .
' You did n't think Google was going to sit back and let bit.ly harvest juicy data on 2.1 billion links that were clicked in November without trying to corner some of that action to make their ad suggestions more accurate , did you ?
" Google 's shortening service is called Goo.gl .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>eldavojohn writes "The Sultan of Search is unveiling a new service (currently only available for Google Toolbar and Feedburner) that will tackle a very old problem usually solved by bit.ly or tinyurl — URL shortening.
Now, we've heard cries for sanity to prevent potential issues (like what if tr.im had shut down and broken millions of links?
) but with one of the goliaths of the industry jumping in the ring it looks like URL shortening is here to stay.
And a quick note for people who enjoy privacy, goo.gl explicitly states: 'Please note that Google may choose to publicly display aggregate and non-personally identifiable statistics about particular shortened links, such as the number of end user clicks.
'  You didn't think Google was going to sit back and let bit.ly harvest juicy data on 2.1 billion links that were clicked in November without trying to corner some of that action to make their ad suggestions more accurate, did you?
" Google's shortening service is called Goo.gl.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443464</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>SpeedyDX</author>
	<datestamp>1260889500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You seem to ask an awfully odd question, sir. Those purposes (and other related purposes, such as Facebook status updates, etc.) are precisely the main point of these services!</p><p>"Aside from watching TV and playing video games, what's the point of a TV?!?"</p><p>"Aside from being able to read many books without having to physically carry them all around, what's the point of the Nook?!?!!??"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You seem to ask an awfully odd question , sir .
Those purposes ( and other related purposes , such as Facebook status updates , etc .
) are precisely the main point of these services !
" Aside from watching TV and playing video games , what 's the point of a TV ? ! ?
" " Aside from being able to read many books without having to physically carry them all around , what 's the point of the Nook ? ! ? ! ! ? ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You seem to ask an awfully odd question, sir.
Those purposes (and other related purposes, such as Facebook status updates, etc.
) are precisely the main point of these services!
"Aside from watching TV and playing video games, what's the point of a TV?!?
""Aside from being able to read many books without having to physically carry them all around, what's the point of the Nook?!?!!??
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30447142</id>
	<title>Re:Google Gibraltar</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260903120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.gl is Greenland. Gibraltar is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.gi.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.gl is Greenland .
Gibraltar is .gi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.gl is Greenland.
Gibraltar is .gi.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443744</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30445370</id>
	<title>Re:Better idea</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1260897540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Domains aren't the problem, CMS systems that expose 99\% of the implementation in the url are the problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Domains are n't the problem , CMS systems that expose 99 \ % of the implementation in the url are the problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Domains aren't the problem, CMS systems that expose 99\% of the implementation in the url are the problem.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443678</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443376</id>
	<title>Re:You guys missed one tiny, important detail...</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1260889080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Come on now, it's in the first damn sentence, can't you read?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Come on now , it 's in the first damn sentence , ca n't you read ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Come on now, it's in the first damn sentence, can't you read?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443306</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443744</id>
	<title>Google  Gibraltar</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260890880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, that's how Google Gibraltar looks like...

It's funny how the official meaning of TLD is always totally ignored.
Case in point: as many others, White House uses bit.ly for its URL shortening on White House Tweeter posts... never mind that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.ly TLD is assigned to Libya.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , that 's how Google Gibraltar looks like.. . It 's funny how the official meaning of TLD is always totally ignored .
Case in point : as many others , White House uses bit.ly for its URL shortening on White House Tweeter posts... never mind that .ly TLD is assigned to Libya .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, that's how Google Gibraltar looks like...

It's funny how the official meaning of TLD is always totally ignored.
Case in point: as many others, White House uses bit.ly for its URL shortening on White House Tweeter posts... never mind that .ly TLD is assigned to Libya.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443398</id>
	<title>Obligatory</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260889200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://bit.ly/1fgHW8" title="bit.ly" rel="nofollow">[bbc.co.uk]</a> [bit.ly]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>[ bbc.co.uk ] [ bit.ly ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[bbc.co.uk] [bit.ly]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443306</id>
	<title>You guys missed one tiny, important detail...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260888720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Google URL Shortener is currently available for Google products and not for broader consumer use."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Google URL Shortener is currently available for Google products and not for broader consumer use .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Google URL Shortener is currently available for Google products and not for broader consumer use.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443402</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260889200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's your answer: <a href="http://bit.ly/4kb77v" title="bit.ly" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/4kb77v</a> [bit.ly]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's your answer : http : //bit.ly/4kb77v [ bit.ly ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's your answer: http://bit.ly/4kb77v [bit.ly]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30447936</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>LittleBigScript</author>
	<datestamp>1260906360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't worry if you clicked the link, you are one of the 198,052 who did the same.</p><p>To get the metrics on the link just type<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/info/ between bit.ly and the unique identifier like this <a href="http://bit.ly/info/4kb77v" title="bit.ly">http://bit.ly/info/4kb77v</a> [bit.ly]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't worry if you clicked the link , you are one of the 198,052 who did the same.To get the metrics on the link just type /info/ between bit.ly and the unique identifier like this http : //bit.ly/info/4kb77v [ bit.ly ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't worry if you clicked the link, you are one of the 198,052 who did the same.To get the metrics on the link just type /info/ between bit.ly and the unique identifier like this http://bit.ly/info/4kb77v [bit.ly]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443402</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30448486</id>
	<title>Re:Other services work fine</title>
	<author>ShakaUVM</author>
	<datestamp>1260908580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;I, for one, will be avoiding this. Existing services work fine and this is one more way Google is headed towards info omniscience.</p><p>If a friend emails a Google shortened URL to you, you'll avoid clicking on it?</p><p>BUT HOW WILL YOU KNOW IF IT'S A RICKROLL OR GOATSE LINK?</p><p>The not-knowing will drive you slowly insane.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; I , for one , will be avoiding this .
Existing services work fine and this is one more way Google is headed towards info omniscience.If a friend emails a Google shortened URL to you , you 'll avoid clicking on it ? BUT HOW WILL YOU KNOW IF IT 'S A RICKROLL OR GOATSE LINK ? The not-knowing will drive you slowly insane .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;I, for one, will be avoiding this.
Existing services work fine and this is one more way Google is headed towards info omniscience.If a friend emails a Google shortened URL to you, you'll avoid clicking on it?BUT HOW WILL YOU KNOW IF IT'S A RICKROLL OR GOATSE LINK?The not-knowing will drive you slowly insane.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443298</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443538</id>
	<title>Where there go my business plans</title>
	<author>axl917</author>
	<datestamp>1260889920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was all set to name my company Goo and base it out of Greenland.</p><p>Damn you, Google!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was all set to name my company Goo and base it out of Greenland.Damn you , Google !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was all set to name my company Goo and base it out of Greenland.Damn you, Google!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30449334</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>MikeBabcock</author>
	<datestamp>1260869640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People who set the cookie on tinyurl, or install the preview add-on for bit.ly don't have to worry about clicking on nasty website links accidentally, they can see what the site redirects to in advance.  Swift, the Twitter  (Android) app I use on my phone automatically shows previews for links as well, since they're so common when tweeting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People who set the cookie on tinyurl , or install the preview add-on for bit.ly do n't have to worry about clicking on nasty website links accidentally , they can see what the site redirects to in advance .
Swift , the Twitter ( Android ) app I use on my phone automatically shows previews for links as well , since they 're so common when tweeting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People who set the cookie on tinyurl, or install the preview add-on for bit.ly don't have to worry about clicking on nasty website links accidentally, they can see what the site redirects to in advance.
Swift, the Twitter  (Android) app I use on my phone automatically shows previews for links as well, since they're so common when tweeting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443402</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30447094</id>
	<title>But what about?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260903000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about the little guys?  How do they pretend to be able to compete with Google?  There are sites like http://wynd.me and http://is.gd and http://tiny.cc that are all lesser known entities in this arena.  Google releases a URL shortener and it gets picked up by Slashdot instantly.  The authors of the other sites fight to even be listed by Google much less have the benefits of the Slashdot effect to bring in new users.  How would a smaller site with fun features get the word out?  Especially in the wake of the news of yet another facet of the Internet that is about to be swallowed whole by the Google monster.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about the little guys ?
How do they pretend to be able to compete with Google ?
There are sites like http : //wynd.me and http : //is.gd and http : //tiny.cc that are all lesser known entities in this arena .
Google releases a URL shortener and it gets picked up by Slashdot instantly .
The authors of the other sites fight to even be listed by Google much less have the benefits of the Slashdot effect to bring in new users .
How would a smaller site with fun features get the word out ?
Especially in the wake of the news of yet another facet of the Internet that is about to be swallowed whole by the Google monster .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about the little guys?
How do they pretend to be able to compete with Google?
There are sites like http://wynd.me and http://is.gd and http://tiny.cc that are all lesser known entities in this arena.
Google releases a URL shortener and it gets picked up by Slashdot instantly.
The authors of the other sites fight to even be listed by Google much less have the benefits of the Slashdot effect to bring in new users.
How would a smaller site with fun features get the word out?
Especially in the wake of the news of yet another facet of the Internet that is about to be swallowed whole by the Google monster.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30448784</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1260910020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>They're a lot easier to read out over the phone, for one - especially if you're deep linking into a site.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Why would I want to read a URL over the phone? If I'm communicating a URL to someone for deep linking into a site, then the one thing I can be pretty sure of (since, if I wasn't, I'd have no reason to communicate the URL) is that the person has internet access. Given that, there are a lot better ways of getting them the URL then reading it to them--such as email. Even if I want to use the telephone to <i>notify</i> them, I can just describe what it is, and tell them I'm mailing them the link.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're a lot easier to read out over the phone , for one - especially if you 're deep linking into a site .
Why would I want to read a URL over the phone ?
If I 'm communicating a URL to someone for deep linking into a site , then the one thing I can be pretty sure of ( since , if I was n't , I 'd have no reason to communicate the URL ) is that the person has internet access .
Given that , there are a lot better ways of getting them the URL then reading it to them--such as email .
Even if I want to use the telephone to notify them , I can just describe what it is , and tell them I 'm mailing them the link .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're a lot easier to read out over the phone, for one - especially if you're deep linking into a site.
Why would I want to read a URL over the phone?
If I'm communicating a URL to someone for deep linking into a site, then the one thing I can be pretty sure of (since, if I wasn't, I'd have no reason to communicate the URL) is that the person has internet access.
Given that, there are a lot better ways of getting them the URL then reading it to them--such as email.
Even if I want to use the telephone to notify them, I can just describe what it is, and tell them I'm mailing them the link.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443632</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443678</id>
	<title>Better idea</title>
	<author>2phar</author>
	<datestamp>1260890640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For real short URLs, we should just give every machine a NUMBER instead of a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. oh wait..</htmltext>
<tokenext>For real short URLs , we should just give every machine a NUMBER instead of a .. oh wait. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For real short URLs, we should just give every machine a NUMBER instead of a .. oh wait..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444158</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260892800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Meh, I expected at least Goatsex<br>http://bit.ly/1CWjG5</p><p>(and you know you WILL click this, he he he... you just can't stop yourself, can you)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh , I expected at least Goatsexhttp : //bit.ly/1CWjG5 ( and you know you WILL click this , he he he... you just ca n't stop yourself , can you )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh, I expected at least Goatsexhttp://bit.ly/1CWjG5(and you know you WILL click this, he he he... you just can't stop yourself, can you)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443402</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443332</id>
	<title>Why?</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1260888900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Aside from twitter and SMS which both have self-imposed limits, what's the point of these things?!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Aside from twitter and SMS which both have self-imposed limits , what 's the point of these things ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aside from twitter and SMS which both have self-imposed limits, what's the point of these things?
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443378</id>
	<title>More POV than news</title>
	<author>s1lverl0rd</author>
	<datestamp>1260889080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Timothy here is very quick to say that, just because it is Google, there will be all kinds of privacy problems. I don't get it.</p><p>If this service starts to get widespread use, it's news.<br>When a big privacy leak is discovered, it's news.<br>When goo.gl shuts down, it's news.</p><p>This isn't.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Timothy here is very quick to say that , just because it is Google , there will be all kinds of privacy problems .
I do n't get it.If this service starts to get widespread use , it 's news.When a big privacy leak is discovered , it 's news.When goo.gl shuts down , it 's news.This is n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Timothy here is very quick to say that, just because it is Google, there will be all kinds of privacy problems.
I don't get it.If this service starts to get widespread use, it's news.When a big privacy leak is discovered, it's news.When goo.gl shuts down, it's news.This isn't.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443842</id>
	<title>This *does* serve a purpose, though...</title>
	<author>lwsimon</author>
	<datestamp>1260891300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whether or not you use or like URL shorteners, the fact is, a lot of them are used.  The Google name behind this one will give it staying power.</p><p>Sucks though, as I have a shortener in staging right now that I was about to launch to try and solve the problem of stability.  Oh well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whether or not you use or like URL shorteners , the fact is , a lot of them are used .
The Google name behind this one will give it staying power.Sucks though , as I have a shortener in staging right now that I was about to launch to try and solve the problem of stability .
Oh well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whether or not you use or like URL shorteners, the fact is, a lot of them are used.
The Google name behind this one will give it staying power.Sucks though, as I have a shortener in staging right now that I was about to launch to try and solve the problem of stability.
Oh well.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443888</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260891540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It also acts as a dereferer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It also acts as a dereferer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It also acts as a dereferer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30445420</id>
	<title>Re:Wouldn't be necessary if...</title>
	<author>houghi</author>
	<datestamp>1260897720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is why tinurl has a preview: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/preview.php" title="tinyurl.com">http://tinyurl.com/preview.php</a> [tinyurl.com]<br>You could argue wether this should be on or of by standard, but it is good that you have the ability to make your own choice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is why tinurl has a preview : http : //tinyurl.com/preview.php [ tinyurl.com ] You could argue wether this should be on or of by standard , but it is good that you have the ability to make your own choice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is why tinurl has a preview: http://tinyurl.com/preview.php [tinyurl.com]You could argue wether this should be on or of by standard, but it is good that you have the ability to make your own choice.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443774</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30461990</id>
	<title>Re:Other services work fine</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259699100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In theory, yes. But why should you trust any company.  If you can't trust any company, then it is better to spread the info out to hinder its aggregation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In theory , yes .
But why should you trust any company .
If you ca n't trust any company , then it is better to spread the info out to hinder its aggregation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In theory, yes.
But why should you trust any company.
If you can't trust any company, then it is better to spread the info out to hinder its aggregation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444914</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30449404</id>
	<title>Re:Google Gibraltar</title>
	<author>MikeBabcock</author>
	<datestamp>1260870000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://cr.yp.to/" title="cr.yp.to">http://cr.yp.to/</a> [cr.yp.to] ignores the meaning as well<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)  But its a cool domain to own.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //cr.yp.to/ [ cr.yp.to ] ignores the meaning as well : ) But its a cool domain to own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://cr.yp.to/ [cr.yp.to] ignores the meaning as well :)  But its a cool domain to own.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443744</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443570</id>
	<title>Re:Is this really a problem?</title>
	<author>unity</author>
	<datestamp>1260890040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, I can't remember the last time I clicked on one of those "shortened" urls.  I just skip over them.  I prefer to know where I'm going.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I ca n't remember the last time I clicked on one of those " shortened " urls .
I just skip over them .
I prefer to know where I 'm going .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I can't remember the last time I clicked on one of those "shortened" urls.
I just skip over them.
I prefer to know where I'm going.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443460</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443292</id>
	<title>What do you mean?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260888600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Animal or vegetal shortening?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Animal or vegetal shortening ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Animal or vegetal shortening?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30446712</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1260901860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm...</p><p><a href="http://bit.ly/4kb77v+#conversations\_data" title="bit.ly">http://bit.ly/4kb77v+#conversations\_data</a> [bit.ly]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm...http : //bit.ly/4kb77v + # conversations \ _data [ bit.ly ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm...http://bit.ly/4kb77v+#conversations\_data [bit.ly]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443402</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443620</id>
	<title>They do?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260890280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I had the misfortunate of using one the other day it chucked up a page telling me the service was busy and to try again later.</p><p>Quite how popping up a page stating the service was busy is any easier than just issuing a redirect to the required site I don't really know, but it did, and it was stupid as there was no way to ascertain the underlying URL it was meant to redirect to from the stupid shortened URL I clicked.</p><p>At least with Google it's a pretty safe bet they'll be able to handle the traffic, and their URLs will likely remain indefinitely unlike others who may (and some have) go bust and lose all the links they stored.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I had the misfortunate of using one the other day it chucked up a page telling me the service was busy and to try again later.Quite how popping up a page stating the service was busy is any easier than just issuing a redirect to the required site I do n't really know , but it did , and it was stupid as there was no way to ascertain the underlying URL it was meant to redirect to from the stupid shortened URL I clicked.At least with Google it 's a pretty safe bet they 'll be able to handle the traffic , and their URLs will likely remain indefinitely unlike others who may ( and some have ) go bust and lose all the links they stored .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I had the misfortunate of using one the other day it chucked up a page telling me the service was busy and to try again later.Quite how popping up a page stating the service was busy is any easier than just issuing a redirect to the required site I don't really know, but it did, and it was stupid as there was no way to ascertain the underlying URL it was meant to redirect to from the stupid shortened URL I clicked.At least with Google it's a pretty safe bet they'll be able to handle the traffic, and their URLs will likely remain indefinitely unlike others who may (and some have) go bust and lose all the links they stored.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443298</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30446026</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Tringard</author>
	<datestamp>1260899700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When Tinyurl was popular there was at least the option to enable a cookie to be sent to tinyurl to get a preview of the link before going on to the real link.  These days I just avoid all of these links.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When Tinyurl was popular there was at least the option to enable a cookie to be sent to tinyurl to get a preview of the link before going on to the real link .
These days I just avoid all of these links .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When Tinyurl was popular there was at least the option to enable a cookie to be sent to tinyurl to get a preview of the link before going on to the real link.
These days I just avoid all of these links.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443402</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444442</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260894240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean http://www.socuteurl.com/oinkypigglecow</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean http : //www.socuteurl.com/oinkypigglecow</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean http://www.socuteurl.com/oinkypigglecow</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443632</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30445024</id>
	<title>Re:Preview url</title>
	<author>jmarkantes</author>
	<datestamp>1260896400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here's one single firefox add-on that displays the full url in a few different ways (href/status bar, mouseover, expanded link):
<a href="http://www.longurlplease.com/" title="longurlplease.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.longurlplease.com/</a> [longurlplease.com]

J</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's one single firefox add-on that displays the full url in a few different ways ( href/status bar , mouseover , expanded link ) : http : //www.longurlplease.com/ [ longurlplease.com ] J</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's one single firefox add-on that displays the full url in a few different ways (href/status bar, mouseover, expanded link):
http://www.longurlplease.com/ [longurlplease.com]

J</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444250</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30447102</id>
	<title>Re:Other services work fine</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1260903000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What?  It's better to have once company collect everything about you and sell that than it is to have the information scattered amongst a lot of different providers making it difficult to collect together?  I think you need to provide a bit more explanation of why you think that before you deserve that insightful mod that you seem to have acquired...</htmltext>
<tokenext>What ?
It 's better to have once company collect everything about you and sell that than it is to have the information scattered amongst a lot of different providers making it difficult to collect together ?
I think you need to provide a bit more explanation of why you think that before you deserve that insightful mod that you seem to have acquired.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What?
It's better to have once company collect everything about you and sell that than it is to have the information scattered amongst a lot of different providers making it difficult to collect together?
I think you need to provide a bit more explanation of why you think that before you deserve that insightful mod that you seem to have acquired...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444914</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444118</id>
	<title>Re:You guys missed one tiny, important detail...</title>
	<author>GargamelSpaceman</author>
	<datestamp>1260892680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is what allows it ( maybe ) to jive with google's 'Do no evil' motto.  Since the scope is limited to google products, then it doesn't break the web at large.  Without google there are no google products anyway, so who cares if they are full of shortened URLs.  URL shortening is, in general, evil.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is what allows it ( maybe ) to jive with google 's 'Do no evil ' motto .
Since the scope is limited to google products , then it does n't break the web at large .
Without google there are no google products anyway , so who cares if they are full of shortened URLs .
URL shortening is , in general , evil .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is what allows it ( maybe ) to jive with google's 'Do no evil' motto.
Since the scope is limited to google products, then it doesn't break the web at large.
Without google there are no google products anyway, so who cares if they are full of shortened URLs.
URL shortening is, in general, evil.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443306</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443756</id>
	<title>Re:Other services work fine</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260890940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hi,Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,Here are the most popular, most stylish and avantgarde shoes,handbags,Tshirts,jacket,Tracksuitw ect...
<a href="http://www.kkshoe.com/" title="kkshoe.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kkshoe.com/</a> [kkshoe.com]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/productlist.asp?id=s76(Tracksuit)
Christmas is approaching, your Christmas gifts ready?
kkshoe com mall for you, which involves a number of well-known brands from the Asia-Pacific region the trend of merchandise. Promotional discounts should be, come SHOPPING bar!Christmas sale, free shipping discounts are beautifully gift<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,Christmas gifts,look, Best quality, Best reputation , Best services Service is our Lift.
Nike shox $35,Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35
Tshirts (Polo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,ed hardy,lacoste) $16
ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket,ect...
For details, please consult  <a href="http://www.kkshoe.com/" title="kkshoe.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kkshoe.com/</a> [kkshoe.com]
Thanks!!! Advance wish you a merry Christmas.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi,Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,Here are the most popular , most stylish and avantgarde shoes,handbags,Tshirts,jacket,Tracksuitw ect.. . http : //www.kkshoe.com/ [ kkshoe.com ] /productlist.asp ? id = s76 ( Tracksuit ) Christmas is approaching , your Christmas gifts ready ?
kkshoe com mall for you , which involves a number of well-known brands from the Asia-Pacific region the trend of merchandise .
Promotional discounts should be , come SHOPPING bar ! Christmas sale , free shipping discounts are beautifully gift ,Christmas gifts,look , Best quality , Best reputation , Best services Service is our Lift .
Nike shox $ 35,Handbags ( Coach lv fendi d&amp;g ) $ 35 Tshirts ( Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste ) $ 16 ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket,ect.. . For details , please consult http : //www.kkshoe.com/ [ kkshoe.com ] Thanks ! ! !
Advance wish you a merry Christmas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi,Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,Here are the most popular, most stylish and avantgarde shoes,handbags,Tshirts,jacket,Tracksuitw ect...
http://www.kkshoe.com/ [kkshoe.com] /productlist.asp?id=s76(Tracksuit)
Christmas is approaching, your Christmas gifts ready?
kkshoe com mall for you, which involves a number of well-known brands from the Asia-Pacific region the trend of merchandise.
Promotional discounts should be, come SHOPPING bar!Christmas sale, free shipping discounts are beautifully gift ,Christmas gifts,look, Best quality, Best reputation , Best services Service is our Lift.
Nike shox $35,Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35
Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16
ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket,ect...
For details, please consult  http://www.kkshoe.com/ [kkshoe.com]
Thanks!!!
Advance wish you a merry Christmas.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443298</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443490</id>
	<title>Wouldn't be necessary if...</title>
	<author>Bill Dimm</author>
	<datestamp>1260889620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Websites wouldn't be tempted to use such long URLs if search engines would stop using the URL (other than the domain name) as a factor in ranking the search results.  How many CMSs now stuff an entire article title into the URL purely for SEO purposes?  Is that stuff in the URL really telling the search engine anything that can't be found in the &lt;title&gt; or &lt;h1&gt; tags?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Websites would n't be tempted to use such long URLs if search engines would stop using the URL ( other than the domain name ) as a factor in ranking the search results .
How many CMSs now stuff an entire article title into the URL purely for SEO purposes ?
Is that stuff in the URL really telling the search engine anything that ca n't be found in the or tags ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Websites wouldn't be tempted to use such long URLs if search engines would stop using the URL (other than the domain name) as a factor in ranking the search results.
How many CMSs now stuff an entire article title into the URL purely for SEO purposes?
Is that stuff in the URL really telling the search engine anything that can't be found in the  or  tags?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443536</id>
	<title>Re:Other services work fine</title>
	<author>flowsnake</author>
	<datestamp>1260889860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Indeed. I'm not giving up my <a href="http://www.socuteurl.com/" title="socuteurl.com">SoCuteUrl</a> [socuteurl.com]; the links come out a bit longer, but oh so lovely! For example, who would not prefer <a href="http://www.socuteurl.com/coozzypumpkins" title="socuteurl.com">http://www.socuteurl.com/coozzypumpkins</a> [socuteurl.com] over <a href="http://www.expertsexchange.com/" title="expertsexchange.com">http://www.ExpertSexChange.com</a> [expertsexchange.com]?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed .
I 'm not giving up my SoCuteUrl [ socuteurl.com ] ; the links come out a bit longer , but oh so lovely !
For example , who would not prefer http : //www.socuteurl.com/coozzypumpkins [ socuteurl.com ] over http : //www.ExpertSexChange.com [ expertsexchange.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed.
I'm not giving up my SoCuteUrl [socuteurl.com]; the links come out a bit longer, but oh so lovely!
For example, who would not prefer http://www.socuteurl.com/coozzypumpkins [socuteurl.com] over http://www.ExpertSexChange.com [expertsexchange.com]?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443298</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444708</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1260895200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>How else are you going to send people to goatse or a rickroll?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How else are you going to send people to goatse or a rickroll ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How else are you going to send people to goatse or a rickroll?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443986</id>
	<title>Where's the security around this?</title>
	<author>HockeyPuck</author>
	<datestamp>1260891960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With browsers having built in security to tell me if some website harbors malware upon accessing it, why do people through this concept out the window and click on any tiny url that could potentially send them to goat.sx.  Seems that this defeats the purpose of me being able to see where the link goes before clicking on it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With browsers having built in security to tell me if some website harbors malware upon accessing it , why do people through this concept out the window and click on any tiny url that could potentially send them to goat.sx .
Seems that this defeats the purpose of me being able to see where the link goes before clicking on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With browsers having built in security to tell me if some website harbors malware upon accessing it, why do people through this concept out the window and click on any tiny url that could potentially send them to goat.sx.
Seems that this defeats the purpose of me being able to see where the link goes before clicking on it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30448928</id>
	<title>Re:Wouldn't be necessary if...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260867600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Commissioner of Official Languages in Canada disagrees with you. It feels that information in URLs is so important that they have to actively reflect both official languages (English and French). A lot of money is being spent to convert all existing URLs to either English or French-only or bilingual format. Even the query portion of the request has to comply!!!</p><p>For instance, look at the Canada site:<br>http://canada.gc.ca/directories-repertoires/direct-eng.html</p><p>Merci/Thank you</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Commissioner of Official Languages in Canada disagrees with you .
It feels that information in URLs is so important that they have to actively reflect both official languages ( English and French ) .
A lot of money is being spent to convert all existing URLs to either English or French-only or bilingual format .
Even the query portion of the request has to comply ! !
! For instance , look at the Canada site : http : //canada.gc.ca/directories-repertoires/direct-eng.htmlMerci/Thank you</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Commissioner of Official Languages in Canada disagrees with you.
It feels that information in URLs is so important that they have to actively reflect both official languages (English and French).
A lot of money is being spent to convert all existing URLs to either English or French-only or bilingual format.
Even the query portion of the request has to comply!!
!For instance, look at the Canada site:http://canada.gc.ca/directories-repertoires/direct-eng.htmlMerci/Thank you</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443490</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30445784</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1260898920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Aside from twitter and SMS which both have self-imposed limits, what's the point of these things?!</p></div></blockquote><p>Getting people to follow links without knowing where they are going.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Aside from twitter and SMS which both have self-imposed limits , what 's the point of these things ?
! Getting people to follow links without knowing where they are going .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aside from twitter and SMS which both have self-imposed limits, what's the point of these things?
!Getting people to follow links without knowing where they are going.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443804</id>
	<title>tl;dc</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1260891120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Five letters? Pah. Too long, didn&rsquo;t click!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Five letters ?
Pah. Too long , didn    t click !
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Five letters?
Pah. Too long, didn’t click!
;)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443616</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Malc</author>
	<datestamp>1260890280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I find them highly irritating because they do hide the real URL.  I'd much rather have multiple copy and pastes with a long URL that has been broken across multiple lines.  Since moving from text only email and giving up on the spamfest Usenet though, I can't say long URLs have really been much of a problem for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find them highly irritating because they do hide the real URL .
I 'd much rather have multiple copy and pastes with a long URL that has been broken across multiple lines .
Since moving from text only email and giving up on the spamfest Usenet though , I ca n't say long URLs have really been much of a problem for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find them highly irritating because they do hide the real URL.
I'd much rather have multiple copy and pastes with a long URL that has been broken across multiple lines.
Since moving from text only email and giving up on the spamfest Usenet though, I can't say long URLs have really been much of a problem for me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30447050</id>
	<title>Re:Where's the security around this?</title>
	<author>dzfoo</author>
	<datestamp>1260902880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wouldn't the browser be able to block it when the 302 redirect response comes back?  Or does it only block URLs entered by the user?</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -dZ.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't the browser be able to block it when the 302 redirect response comes back ?
Or does it only block URLs entered by the user ?
        -dZ .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't the browser be able to block it when the 302 redirect response comes back?
Or does it only block URLs entered by the user?
        -dZ.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443986</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444914</id>
	<title>Re:Other services work fine</title>
	<author>at\_slashdot</author>
	<datestamp>1260895980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In a way is better to have one company I trust know all about my digital life than spread out that info to more companies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In a way is better to have one company I trust know all about my digital life than spread out that info to more companies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In a way is better to have one company I trust know all about my digital life than spread out that info to more companies.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443298</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444392</id>
	<title>Re:Is this really a problem?</title>
	<author>kalirion</author>
	<datestamp>1260893940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use them to give links over the phone to people I don't share my non-landline contact information with, you insensitive clod!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use them to give links over the phone to people I do n't share my non-landline contact information with , you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use them to give links over the phone to people I don't share my non-landline contact information with, you insensitive clod!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443460</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443952</id>
	<title>Re:Is this really a problem?</title>
	<author>Tim C</author>
	<datestamp>1260891780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wouldn't use them in email or similar, but ignoring the use in SMS or on Twitter, they're a damn sight easier to dictate over the phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't use them in email or similar , but ignoring the use in SMS or on Twitter , they 're a damn sight easier to dictate over the phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't use them in email or similar, but ignoring the use in SMS or on Twitter, they're a damn sight easier to dictate over the phone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443460</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444524</id>
	<title>Re:Is this really a problem?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260894600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>In the days(read decades) of "cut and paste", I really fail to see the real need for URL shortening, other than maybe sending a nice link to a goatse mirror to an unaware "friend" at work.</i> <br>
<br>
Sounds like you never have real-life contact with people. It's far easier to have a shortened URL (or better yet, a customized shortened URL) handy to give to people on the spot than having to say "I'll send it to you the next time I'm near a computer and remember that I'm supposed to send the URL to you."</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the days ( read decades ) of " cut and paste " , I really fail to see the real need for URL shortening , other than maybe sending a nice link to a goatse mirror to an unaware " friend " at work .
Sounds like you never have real-life contact with people .
It 's far easier to have a shortened URL ( or better yet , a customized shortened URL ) handy to give to people on the spot than having to say " I 'll send it to you the next time I 'm near a computer and remember that I 'm supposed to send the URL to you .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the days(read decades) of "cut and paste", I really fail to see the real need for URL shortening, other than maybe sending a nice link to a goatse mirror to an unaware "friend" at work.
Sounds like you never have real-life contact with people.
It's far easier to have a shortened URL (or better yet, a customized shortened URL) handy to give to people on the spot than having to say "I'll send it to you the next time I'm near a computer and remember that I'm supposed to send the URL to you.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443460</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30447556</id>
	<title>Re:Wouldn't be necessary if...</title>
	<author>merreborn</author>
	<datestamp>1260904740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI" title="w3.org">Good URIs</a> [w3.org] are just a good idea, period.  That's not advice from some shady SEO scumbag, either.  That's tim berners-lee and the w3c.</p><p>Surely:</p><p><a href="http://example.com/articles/man-bites-dog" title="example.com">http://example.com/articles/man-bites-dog</a> [example.com]</p><p>is vastly superior from the user's point of view to:</p><p><a href="http://example.com/cgi-bin/article.php3?PHPSESSID=0983sdf0er888fsd&amp;article\_id=73522" title="example.com">http://example.com/cgi-bin/article.php3?PHPSESSID=0983sdf0er888fsd&amp;article\_id=73522</a> [example.com]</p><p>Which one are you going to remember?  Which one would you rather read over the phone?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good URIs [ w3.org ] are just a good idea , period .
That 's not advice from some shady SEO scumbag , either .
That 's tim berners-lee and the w3c.Surely : http : //example.com/articles/man-bites-dog [ example.com ] is vastly superior from the user 's point of view to : http : //example.com/cgi-bin/article.php3 ? PHPSESSID = 0983sdf0er888fsd&amp;article \ _id = 73522 [ example.com ] Which one are you going to remember ?
Which one would you rather read over the phone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good URIs [w3.org] are just a good idea, period.
That's not advice from some shady SEO scumbag, either.
That's tim berners-lee and the w3c.Surely:http://example.com/articles/man-bites-dog [example.com]is vastly superior from the user's point of view to:http://example.com/cgi-bin/article.php3?PHPSESSID=0983sdf0er888fsd&amp;article\_id=73522 [example.com]Which one are you going to remember?
Which one would you rather read over the phone?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443490</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444500</id>
	<title>Re:Other services work fine</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1260894480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's the nice thing about freedom of choice. You can use the ones you would like to use. I for one will probably use it just for the sole reason Google won't go out of business anytime soon and I don't use url shortening for anything questionable so I don't care if they know. The only group I'd really be concerned with snooping at my data is the government and they can get that data from any one of those services.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's the nice thing about freedom of choice .
You can use the ones you would like to use .
I for one will probably use it just for the sole reason Google wo n't go out of business anytime soon and I do n't use url shortening for anything questionable so I do n't care if they know .
The only group I 'd really be concerned with snooping at my data is the government and they can get that data from any one of those services .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's the nice thing about freedom of choice.
You can use the ones you would like to use.
I for one will probably use it just for the sole reason Google won't go out of business anytime soon and I don't use url shortening for anything questionable so I don't care if they know.
The only group I'd really be concerned with snooping at my data is the government and they can get that data from any one of those services.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443298</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444986</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260896220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The point is to <em>count</em> "outgoing" clicks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The point is to count " outgoing " clicks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The point is to count "outgoing" clicks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443764</id>
	<title>Re:Wouldn't be necessary if...</title>
	<author>marcansoft</author>
	<datestamp>1260891000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not just for SEO purposes. Stuffing the article title into the URL is also informative for those who read the URL. Of course, that belongs inside the  tag linking to it, but few formats (besides plain HTML) support anchor text that differs from the link (especially all the text-based mediums that have had hyperlinking shoehorned in by using automatic linkification).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not just for SEO purposes .
Stuffing the article title into the URL is also informative for those who read the URL .
Of course , that belongs inside the tag linking to it , but few formats ( besides plain HTML ) support anchor text that differs from the link ( especially all the text-based mediums that have had hyperlinking shoehorned in by using automatic linkification ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not just for SEO purposes.
Stuffing the article title into the URL is also informative for those who read the URL.
Of course, that belongs inside the  tag linking to it, but few formats (besides plain HTML) support anchor text that differs from the link (especially all the text-based mediums that have had hyperlinking shoehorned in by using automatic linkification).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443490</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443394</id>
	<title>APL?</title>
	<author>Errol backfiring</author>
	<datestamp>1260889200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It should be possible to write URLs in APL, I guess....</htmltext>
<tokenext>It should be possible to write URLs in APL , I guess... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It should be possible to write URLs in APL, I guess....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443370</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443534</id>
	<title>Best viewed through Google Goggles</title>
	<author>Zarf</author>
	<datestamp>1260889860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This seemed utterly rubbish to me until I put on my Google Goggles. Now everything looks <i>awesome</i>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This seemed utterly rubbish to me until I put on my Google Goggles .
Now everything looks awesome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This seemed utterly rubbish to me until I put on my Google Goggles.
Now everything looks awesome.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30448304</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1260907740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pff... that&rsquo;s nothing.</p><p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;c2coff=1&amp;rls=GGLG\%2CGGLG\%3A2005-26\%2CGGLG\%3Aen&amp;q=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.google.com\%2Fsearch\%3Fhl\%3Den\%26lr\%3D\%26c2coff\%3D1\%26rls\%3DGGLG\%252CGGLG\%253A2005-26\%252CGGLG\%253Aen\%26q\%3Dhttp\%253A\%252F\%252Fwww.google.com\%252Fsearch\%253Fhl\%253Den\%2526lr\%253D\%2526c2coff\%253D1\%2526rls\%253DGGLG\%25252CGGLG\%25253A2005-26\%25252CGGLG\%25253Aen\%2526q\%253Dhttp\%25253A\%25252F\%25252Fwww.google.com\%25252Fsearch\%25253Fsourceid\%25253Dnavclient\%252526ie\%25253DUTF-8\%252526rls\%25253DGGLG\%25252CGGLG\%25253A2005-26\%25252CGGLG\%25253Aen\%252526q\%25253Dhttp\%2525253A\%2525252F\%2525252Fwww\%2525252Egoogle\%2525252Ecom\%2525252Fsearch\%2525253Fsourceid\%2525253Dnavclient\%25252526ie\%2525253DUTF\%2525252D8\%25252526rls\%2525253DGGLG\%2525252CGGLG\%2525253A2005\%2525252D26\%2525252CGGLG\%2525253Aen\%25252526q\%2525253Dhttp\%252525253A\%252525252F\%252525252Fuk2\%252525252Emultimap\%252525252Ecom\%252525252Fmap\%252525252Fbrowse\%252525252Ecgi\%252525253Fclient\%252525253Dpublic\%2525252526GridE\%252525253D\%252525252D0\%252525252E12640\%2525252526GridN\%252525253D51\%252525252E50860\%2525252526lon\%252525253D\%252525252D0\%252525252E12640\%2525252526lat\%252525253D51\%252525252E50860\%2525252526search\%252525255Fresult\%252525253DLondon\%25252525252CGreater\%252525252520London\%2525252526db\%252525253Dfreegaz\%2525252526cidr\%252525255Fclient\%252525253Dnone\%2525252526lang\%252525253D\%2525252526place\%252525253DLondon\%252525252CGreater\%252525252BLondon\%2525252526pc\%252525253D\%2525252526advanced\%252525253D\%2525252526client\%252525253Dpublic\%2525252526addr2\%252525253D\%2525252526quicksearch\%252525253DLondon\%2525252526addr3\%252525253D\%2525252526scale\%252525253D100000\%2525252526addr1\%252525253D\%2526btnG\%253DSearch\%26btnG\%3DSearch&amp;btnG=Search" title="google.com">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;c2coff=1&amp;rls=GGLG\%2CGGLG\%3A2005-26\%2CGGLG\%3Aen&amp;q=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.google.com\%2Fsearch\%3Fhl\%3Den\%26lr\%3D\%26c2coff\%3D1\%26rls\%3DGGLG\%252CGGLG\%253A2005-26\%252CGGLG\%253Aen\%26q\%3Dhttp\%253A\%252F\%252Fwww.google.com\%252Fsearch\%253Fhl\%253Den\%2526lr\%253D\%2526c2coff\%253D1\%2526rls\%253DGGLG\%25252CGGLG\%25253A2005-26\%25252CGGLG\%25253Aen\%2526q\%253Dhttp\%25253A\%25252F\%25252Fwww.google.com\%25252Fsearch\%25253Fsourceid\%25253Dnavclient\%252526ie\%25253DUTF-8\%252526rls\%25253DGGLG\%25252CGGLG\%25253A2005-26\%25252CGGLG\%25253Aen\%252526q\%25253Dhttp\%2525253A\%2525252F\%2525252Fwww\%2525252Egoogle\%2525252Ecom\%2525252Fsearch\%2525253Fsourceid\%2525253Dnavclient\%25252526ie\%2525253DUTF\%2525252D8\%25252526rls\%2525253DGGLG\%2525252CGGLG\%2525253A2005\%2525252D26\%2525252CGGLG\%2525253Aen\%25252526q\%2525253Dhttp\%252525253A\%252525252F\%252525252Fuk2\%252525252Emultimap\%252525252Ecom\%252525252Fmap\%252525252Fbrowse\%252525252Ecgi\%252525253Fclient\%252525253Dpublic\%2525252526GridE\%252525253D\%252525252D0\%252525252E12640\%2525252526GridN\%252525253D51\%252525252E50860\%2525252526lon\%252525253D\%252525252D0\%252525252E12640\%2525252526lat\%252525253D51\%252525252E50860\%2525252526search\%252525255Fresult\%252525253DLondon\%25252525252CGreater\%252525252520London\%2525252526db\%252525253Dfreegaz\%2525252526cidr\%252525255Fclient\%252525253Dnone\%2525252526lang\%252525253D\%2525252526place\%252525253DLondon\%252525252CGreater\%252525252BLondon\%2525252526pc\%252525253D\%2525252526advanced\%252525253D\%2525252526client\%252525253Dpublic\%2525252526addr2\%252525253D\%2525252526quicksearch\%252525253DLondon\%2525252526addr3\%252525253D\%2525252526scale\%252525253D100000\%2525252526addr1\%252525253D\%2526btnG\%253DSearch\%26btnG\%3DSearch&amp;btnG=Search</a> [google.com]</p><p>vs.</p><p><a href="http://3.ly/5q2" title="3.ly">http://3.ly/5q2</a> [3.ly]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pff... that    s nothing.http : //www.google.com/search ? hl = en&amp;lr = &amp;c2coff = 1&amp;rls = GGLG \ % 2CGGLG \ % 3A2005-26 \ % 2CGGLG \ % 3Aen&amp;q = http \ % 3A \ % 2F \ % 2Fwww.google.com \ % 2Fsearch \ % 3Fhl \ % 3Den \ % 26lr \ % 3D \ % 26c2coff \ % 3D1 \ % 26rls \ % 3DGGLG \ % 252CGGLG \ % 253A2005-26 \ % 252CGGLG \ % 253Aen \ % 26q \ % 3Dhttp \ % 253A \ % 252F \ % 252Fwww.google.com \ % 252Fsearch \ % 253Fhl \ % 253Den \ % 2526lr \ % 253D \ % 2526c2coff \ % 253D1 \ % 2526rls \ % 253DGGLG \ % 25252CGGLG \ % 25253A2005-26 \ % 25252CGGLG \ % 25253Aen \ % 2526q \ % 253Dhttp \ % 25253A \ % 25252F \ % 25252Fwww.google.com \ % 25252Fsearch \ % 25253Fsourceid \ % 25253Dnavclient \ % 252526ie \ % 25253DUTF-8 \ % 252526rls \ % 25253DGGLG \ % 25252CGGLG \ % 25253A2005-26 \ % 25252CGGLG \ % 25253Aen \ % 252526q \ % 25253Dhttp \ % 2525253A \ % 2525252F \ % 2525252Fwww \ % 2525252Egoogle \ % 2525252Ecom \ % 2525252Fsearch \ % 2525253Fsourceid \ % 2525253Dnavclient \ % 25252526ie \ % 2525253DUTF \ % 2525252D8 \ % 25252526rls \ % 2525253DGGLG \ % 2525252CGGLG \ % 2525253A2005 \ % 2525252D26 \ % 2525252CGGLG \ % 2525253Aen \ % 25252526q \ % 2525253Dhttp \ % 252525253A \ % 252525252F \ % 252525252Fuk2 \ % 252525252Emultimap \ % 252525252Ecom \ % 252525252Fmap \ % 252525252Fbrowse \ % 252525252Ecgi \ % 252525253Fclient \ % 252525253Dpublic \ % 2525252526GridE \ % 252525253D \ % 252525252D0 \ % 252525252E12640 \ % 2525252526GridN \ % 252525253D51 \ % 252525252E50860 \ % 2525252526lon \ % 252525253D \ % 252525252D0 \ % 252525252E12640 \ % 2525252526lat \ % 252525253D51 \ % 252525252E50860 \ % 2525252526search \ % 252525255Fresult \ % 252525253DLondon \ % 25252525252CGreater \ % 252525252520London \ % 2525252526db \ % 252525253Dfreegaz \ % 2525252526cidr \ % 252525255Fclient \ % 252525253Dnone \ % 2525252526lang \ % 252525253D \ % 2525252526place \ % 252525253DLondon \ % 252525252CGreater \ % 252525252BLondon \ % 2525252526pc \ % 252525253D \ % 2525252526advanced \ % 252525253D \ % 2525252526client \ % 252525253Dpublic \ % 2525252526addr2 \ % 252525253D \ % 2525252526quicksearch \ % 252525253DLondon \ % 2525252526addr3 \ % 252525253D \ % 2525252526scale \ % 252525253D100000 \ % 2525252526addr1 \ % 252525253D \ % 2526btnG \ % 253DSearch \ % 26btnG \ % 3DSearch&amp;btnG = Search [ google.com ] vs.http : //3.ly/5q2 [ 3.ly ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pff... that’s nothing.http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;c2coff=1&amp;rls=GGLG\%2CGGLG\%3A2005-26\%2CGGLG\%3Aen&amp;q=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.google.com\%2Fsearch\%3Fhl\%3Den\%26lr\%3D\%26c2coff\%3D1\%26rls\%3DGGLG\%252CGGLG\%253A2005-26\%252CGGLG\%253Aen\%26q\%3Dhttp\%253A\%252F\%252Fwww.google.com\%252Fsearch\%253Fhl\%253Den\%2526lr\%253D\%2526c2coff\%253D1\%2526rls\%253DGGLG\%25252CGGLG\%25253A2005-26\%25252CGGLG\%25253Aen\%2526q\%253Dhttp\%25253A\%25252F\%25252Fwww.google.com\%25252Fsearch\%25253Fsourceid\%25253Dnavclient\%252526ie\%25253DUTF-8\%252526rls\%25253DGGLG\%25252CGGLG\%25253A2005-26\%25252CGGLG\%25253Aen\%252526q\%25253Dhttp\%2525253A\%2525252F\%2525252Fwww\%2525252Egoogle\%2525252Ecom\%2525252Fsearch\%2525253Fsourceid\%2525253Dnavclient\%25252526ie\%2525253DUTF\%2525252D8\%25252526rls\%2525253DGGLG\%2525252CGGLG\%2525253A2005\%2525252D26\%2525252CGGLG\%2525253Aen\%25252526q\%2525253Dhttp\%252525253A\%252525252F\%252525252Fuk2\%252525252Emultimap\%252525252Ecom\%252525252Fmap\%252525252Fbrowse\%252525252Ecgi\%252525253Fclient\%252525253Dpublic\%2525252526GridE\%252525253D\%252525252D0\%252525252E12640\%2525252526GridN\%252525253D51\%252525252E50860\%2525252526lon\%252525253D\%252525252D0\%252525252E12640\%2525252526lat\%252525253D51\%252525252E50860\%2525252526search\%252525255Fresult\%252525253DLondon\%25252525252CGreater\%252525252520London\%2525252526db\%252525253Dfreegaz\%2525252526cidr\%252525255Fclient\%252525253Dnone\%2525252526lang\%252525253D\%2525252526place\%252525253DLondon\%252525252CGreater\%252525252BLondon\%2525252526pc\%252525253D\%2525252526advanced\%252525253D\%2525252526client\%252525253Dpublic\%2525252526addr2\%252525253D\%2525252526quicksearch\%252525253DLondon\%2525252526addr3\%252525253D\%2525252526scale\%252525253D100000\%2525252526addr1\%252525253D\%2526btnG\%253DSearch\%26btnG\%3DSearch&amp;btnG=Search [google.com]vs.http://3.ly/5q2 [3.ly]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443802</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260891060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rick rolling is nothing compared to that time someone posted a url to the FBI site on Slashdot.</p><p>Url had a GET message confessing to having a hard drive full of CP, and it got modded +5 funny.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rick rolling is nothing compared to that time someone posted a url to the FBI site on Slashdot.Url had a GET message confessing to having a hard drive full of CP , and it got modded + 5 funny .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rick rolling is nothing compared to that time someone posted a url to the FBI site on Slashdot.Url had a GET message confessing to having a hard drive full of CP, and it got modded +5 funny.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30447488</id>
	<title>Re:You guys missed one tiny, important detail...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260904500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But consider this, if you will.</p><p>If Google died right now, instantly everything gone, what do you think will happen?<br>Not a lot of people would be caring that tinyurl.com/37867572 (not sure if real, made it up) isn't working, they'd be more worried at OH MY GOD GOOGLE IS GONE, WHERE WILL I FIND MY PORN<br>Then at exactly 1 day and a half later, more than half the internet users would collectively kill themselves by headbutting the screen.</p><p>If there is any company who could pull off a URL shortener, Google is one of the few.<br>The chance of them vanishing any time soon is unlikely.</p><p>As long as previewing was enabled by default if no cookie was set, i would gladly accept it in to my home, cook it some dinner and give it a nice backrub.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But consider this , if you will.If Google died right now , instantly everything gone , what do you think will happen ? Not a lot of people would be caring that tinyurl.com/37867572 ( not sure if real , made it up ) is n't working , they 'd be more worried at OH MY GOD GOOGLE IS GONE , WHERE WILL I FIND MY PORNThen at exactly 1 day and a half later , more than half the internet users would collectively kill themselves by headbutting the screen.If there is any company who could pull off a URL shortener , Google is one of the few.The chance of them vanishing any time soon is unlikely.As long as previewing was enabled by default if no cookie was set , i would gladly accept it in to my home , cook it some dinner and give it a nice backrub .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But consider this, if you will.If Google died right now, instantly everything gone, what do you think will happen?Not a lot of people would be caring that tinyurl.com/37867572 (not sure if real, made it up) isn't working, they'd be more worried at OH MY GOD GOOGLE IS GONE, WHERE WILL I FIND MY PORNThen at exactly 1 day and a half later, more than half the internet users would collectively kill themselves by headbutting the screen.If there is any company who could pull off a URL shortener, Google is one of the few.The chance of them vanishing any time soon is unlikely.As long as previewing was enabled by default if no cookie was set, i would gladly accept it in to my home, cook it some dinner and give it a nice backrub.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443604</id>
	<title>I hate all shorteners.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260890220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Call me old fashioned, but I like to see where a link is going before I click it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Call me old fashioned , but I like to see where a link is going before I click it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Call me old fashioned, but I like to see where a link is going before I click it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443996</id>
	<title>Re:Is this really a problem?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260891960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about printing? Never had to type down a huge url from a printed document or magazine? Wouldn't you rather type just a little code instead?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about printing ?
Never had to type down a huge url from a printed document or magazine ?
Would n't you rather type just a little code instead ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about printing?
Never had to type down a huge url from a printed document or magazine?
Wouldn't you rather type just a little code instead?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444368</id>
	<title>Re:They do?</title>
	<author>Daniel\_Staal</author>
	<datestamp>1260893880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Quite how popping up a page stating the service was busy is any easier than just issuing a redirect to the required site I don't really know, but it did, and it was stupid as there was no way to ascertain the underlying URL it was meant to redirect to from the stupid shortened URL I clicked.</p></div><p>Static page vs. database lookup.  The latter will take a lot more resources.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Quite how popping up a page stating the service was busy is any easier than just issuing a redirect to the required site I do n't really know , but it did , and it was stupid as there was no way to ascertain the underlying URL it was meant to redirect to from the stupid shortened URL I clicked.Static page vs. database lookup .
The latter will take a lot more resources .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quite how popping up a page stating the service was busy is any easier than just issuing a redirect to the required site I don't really know, but it did, and it was stupid as there was no way to ascertain the underlying URL it was meant to redirect to from the stupid shortened URL I clicked.Static page vs. database lookup.
The latter will take a lot more resources.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444110</id>
	<title>Re:Other services work fine</title>
	<author>s1id3r0</author>
	<datestamp>1260892560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>     <tt>Although I can't disagree with your thesis, as I see the same trend, the question that I think we need to ask is how <b>much</b> of a concern it really is.  I am far more concerned about Microsoft dominating the market in the same manner.  I am happy to see Google put major pressure on Microsoft as they come out with and link multiple projects into a "one stop domain".  Personally I support open software, and I am happy to see Google growing the open source model ever further with each new product or feature.  I disagree with Google controlling so much of the market, but they do it so well that I can't really be as upset with them as their dominance may warrant.  It is a convince to have all the tools coming from a company that you can count on.  Google does so much that just the fact that they keep it all as together as they do is nothing short of a miracle in and of itself.</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>Although I ca n't disagree with your thesis , as I see the same trend , the question that I think we need to ask is how much of a concern it really is .
I am far more concerned about Microsoft dominating the market in the same manner .
I am happy to see Google put major pressure on Microsoft as they come out with and link multiple projects into a " one stop domain " .
Personally I support open software , and I am happy to see Google growing the open source model ever further with each new product or feature .
I disagree with Google controlling so much of the market , but they do it so well that I ca n't really be as upset with them as their dominance may warrant .
It is a convince to have all the tools coming from a company that you can count on .
Google does so much that just the fact that they keep it all as together as they do is nothing short of a miracle in and of itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>     Although I can't disagree with your thesis, as I see the same trend, the question that I think we need to ask is how much of a concern it really is.
I am far more concerned about Microsoft dominating the market in the same manner.
I am happy to see Google put major pressure on Microsoft as they come out with and link multiple projects into a "one stop domain".
Personally I support open software, and I am happy to see Google growing the open source model ever further with each new product or feature.
I disagree with Google controlling so much of the market, but they do it so well that I can't really be as upset with them as their dominance may warrant.
It is a convince to have all the tools coming from a company that you can count on.
Google does so much that just the fact that they keep it all as together as they do is nothing short of a miracle in and of itself.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443408</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260889260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Aside from twitter and SMS which both have self-imposed limits, what's the point of these things?!</p></div><p>A demonstration is in order! <br> <br>

Check out this awesome new site I found!  <a href="http://thelongestlistofthelongeststuffatthelongestdomainnameatlonglast.com/wearejustdoingthistobestupidnowsincethiscangoonforeverandeverandeverbutitstilllookskindaneatinthebrowsereventhoughitsabigwasteoftimeandenergyandhasnorealpointbutwehadtodoitanyways.html" title="thelongest...nglast.com" rel="nofollow">http://thelongestlistofthelongeststuffatthelongestdomainnameatlonglast.com</a> [thelongest...nglast.com] <br> <br>

Versus<br> <br>

Check out this awesome new site I found!  <a href="http://bit.ly/PFfFp" title="bit.ly" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/PFfFp</a> [bit.ly]  <br> <br>

In fact, that first url will not let me post because it says "Filter error: That's an awful long string of letters there."  So there's a good reason!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Aside from twitter and SMS which both have self-imposed limits , what 's the point of these things ?
! A demonstration is in order !
Check out this awesome new site I found !
http : //thelongestlistofthelongeststuffatthelongestdomainnameatlonglast.com [ thelongest...nglast.com ] Versus Check out this awesome new site I found !
http : //bit.ly/PFfFp [ bit.ly ] In fact , that first url will not let me post because it says " Filter error : That 's an awful long string of letters there .
" So there 's a good reason !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aside from twitter and SMS which both have self-imposed limits, what's the point of these things?
!A demonstration is in order!
Check out this awesome new site I found!
http://thelongestlistofthelongeststuffatthelongestdomainnameatlonglast.com [thelongest...nglast.com]  

Versus 

Check out this awesome new site I found!
http://bit.ly/PFfFp [bit.ly]   

In fact, that first url will not let me post because it says "Filter error: That's an awful long string of letters there.
"  So there's a good reason!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444344</id>
	<title>Business Deal</title>
	<author>Verdatum</author>
	<datestamp>1260893700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google had to pay millions of dollars to game development studio, 2D Boy to purchase the Official Greenland homepage for <i>World of Goo</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google had to pay millions of dollars to game development studio , 2D Boy to purchase the Official Greenland homepage for World of Goo</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google had to pay millions of dollars to game development studio, 2D Boy to purchase the Official Greenland homepage for World of Goo</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443348</id>
	<title>Re:You guys missed one tiny, important detail...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260888960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FIRST F*CKING SENTENCE:<br>"(currently only available for Google Toolbar and Feedburner)"</p><p>Jeez, just READ the summary ok?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FIRST F * CKING SENTENCE : " ( currently only available for Google Toolbar and Feedburner ) " Jeez , just READ the summary ok ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FIRST F*CKING SENTENCE:"(currently only available for Google Toolbar and Feedburner)"Jeez, just READ the summary ok?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443370</id>
	<title>Nope, still too long.</title>
	<author>VortexCortex</author>
	<datestamp>1260889020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I, for one, will not be satisfied until my URLs are compressed as a super positions of themselves and stored in qubits.</p><p>Perhaps Google can use one of their quantum computers to appease me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I , for one , will not be satisfied until my URLs are compressed as a super positions of themselves and stored in qubits.Perhaps Google can use one of their quantum computers to appease me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I, for one, will not be satisfied until my URLs are compressed as a super positions of themselves and stored in qubits.Perhaps Google can use one of their quantum computers to appease me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444028</id>
	<title>Re:You guys missed one tiny, important detail...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260892140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looks like someone just found out they have split personalities.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like someone just found out they have split personalities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like someone just found out they have split personalities.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443376</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443848</id>
	<title>Grouping Urls</title>
	<author>Xenobiotic</author>
	<datestamp>1260891300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I like the idea by these guys. <a href="http://grurl.me/" title="grurl.me" rel="nofollow">http://grurl.me/</a> [grurl.me]

Add some urls to a list, and get a short url in place</htmltext>
<tokenext>I like the idea by these guys .
http : //grurl.me/ [ grurl.me ] Add some urls to a list , and get a short url in place</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like the idea by these guys.
http://grurl.me/ [grurl.me]

Add some urls to a list, and get a short url in place</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444324</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260893580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not just link to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">the full video</a> [youtube.com]?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not just link to the full video [ youtube.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not just link to the full video [youtube.com]?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443402</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444078</id>
	<title>you fail 17</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260892380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">fucking numbers, in anY wAy related direct orders, or And sold in the</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>fucking numbers , in anY wAy related direct orders , or And sold in the [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>fucking numbers, in anY wAy related direct orders, or And sold in the [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30454136</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260900240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's my (very close) recreation of the events:</p><p><a href="http://bit.ly/5qPnvJ" title="bit.ly" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/5qPnvJ</a> [bit.ly]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's my ( very close ) recreation of the events : http : //bit.ly/5qPnvJ [ bit.ly ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's my (very close) recreation of the events:http://bit.ly/5qPnvJ [bit.ly]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443802</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30446498</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260901260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just a normal link works, YouTube links aren't exactly transparent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just a normal link works , YouTube links are n't exactly transparent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just a normal link works, YouTube links aren't exactly transparent.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444708</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443298</id>
	<title>Other services work fine</title>
	<author>i\_want\_you\_to\_throw\_</author>
	<datestamp>1260888660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I, for one, will be avoiding this. Existing services work fine and this is one more way Google is headed towards info omniscience.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I , for one , will be avoiding this .
Existing services work fine and this is one more way Google is headed towards info omniscience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I, for one, will be avoiding this.
Existing services work fine and this is one more way Google is headed towards info omniscience.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30445374</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>vegiVamp</author>
	<datestamp>1260897600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because sometimes you want to link to something that has more parameters than you can shake a very long stick at. Think of a google maps location url, for one thing.<br><br>The world's largest ball of twine is at http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s\_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=largest+ball+of+twine&amp;sll=37.0625,-95.677068&amp;sspn=35.273162,78.134766&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=largest+ball+of+twine&amp;hnear=&amp;ll=39.524435,-98.43338&amp;spn=0.134265,0.305214&amp;z=12&amp;iwloc=A , but it is now also at http://tinyurl.com/largeballoftwine .</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because sometimes you want to link to something that has more parameters than you can shake a very long stick at .
Think of a google maps location url , for one thing.The world 's largest ball of twine is at http : //maps.google.com/maps ? f = q&amp;source = s \ _q&amp;hl = en&amp;geocode = &amp;q = largest + ball + of + twine&amp;sll = 37.0625,-95.677068&amp;sspn = 35.273162,78.134766&amp;ie = UTF8&amp;hq = largest + ball + of + twine&amp;hnear = &amp;ll = 39.524435,-98.43338&amp;spn = 0.134265,0.305214&amp;z = 12&amp;iwloc = A , but it is now also at http : //tinyurl.com/largeballoftwine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because sometimes you want to link to something that has more parameters than you can shake a very long stick at.
Think of a google maps location url, for one thing.The world's largest ball of twine is at http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s\_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=largest+ball+of+twine&amp;sll=37.0625,-95.677068&amp;sspn=35.273162,78.134766&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=largest+ball+of+twine&amp;hnear=&amp;ll=39.524435,-98.43338&amp;spn=0.134265,0.305214&amp;z=12&amp;iwloc=A , but it is now also at http://tinyurl.com/largeballoftwine .</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443388</id>
	<title>Tweak.tk wins the shortening war!</title>
	<author>MoobY</author>
	<datestamp>1260889140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nothing beats <a href="http://tweak.tk/" title="tweak.tk">http://tweak.tk/</a> [tweak.tk] which provides new domain names as shortened URLs!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nothing beats http : //tweak.tk/ [ tweak.tk ] which provides new domain names as shortened URLs !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nothing beats http://tweak.tk/ [tweak.tk] which provides new domain names as shortened URLs!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443692</id>
	<title>Re:Where there go my business plans</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1260890700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well you could always start a Nigerian company called bi.ng ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well you could always start a Nigerian company called bi.ng ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well you could always start a Nigerian company called bi.ng ?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443538</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30500476</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261216380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is actually not necessary. Youtube URLs are already cryptic enough...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is actually not necessary .
Youtube URLs are already cryptic enough.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is actually not necessary.
Youtube URLs are already cryptic enough...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443402</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30445490</id>
	<title>Finally!!!</title>
	<author>topcoder</author>
	<datestamp>1260898080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Finally i will be able to type <a href="http:///" title="http" rel="nofollow">http:///</a> [http]., to access my favorite page<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Finally i will be able to type http : /// [ http ] . , to access my favorite page : ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finally i will be able to type http:/// [http]., to access my favorite page :).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444764</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>jmarkantes</author>
	<datestamp>1260895380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree they've become pretty annoying. But, they sound like they're here to stay, and I've found this to be handy:
<a href="http://www.longurlplease.com/" title="longurlplease.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.longurlplease.com/</a> [longurlplease.com]
Firefox extension (and others, I think) that gives you options for these shortened urls. Either expand completely, or in the title attr so you can see it on mouseover, of the href so you can see the full url in the status bar.

J</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree they 've become pretty annoying .
But , they sound like they 're here to stay , and I 've found this to be handy : http : //www.longurlplease.com/ [ longurlplease.com ] Firefox extension ( and others , I think ) that gives you options for these shortened urls .
Either expand completely , or in the title attr so you can see it on mouseover , of the href so you can see the full url in the status bar .
J</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree they've become pretty annoying.
But, they sound like they're here to stay, and I've found this to be handy:
http://www.longurlplease.com/ [longurlplease.com]
Firefox extension (and others, I think) that gives you options for these shortened urls.
Either expand completely, or in the title attr so you can see it on mouseover, of the href so you can see the full url in the status bar.
J</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443616</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443856</id>
	<title>Re:Wouldn't be necessary if...</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1260891360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Long URLs also (should) let us know what's behind a link before we actually click on it.</p><p>www.apple.com/ipod/<br>www.microsoft.com/office/<br>www.nintendo.com/wii/<br>and so on...</p><p>If you have garbage such as "&amp;id=54353" in your non-search URLs, you're doing it wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Long URLs also ( should ) let us know what 's behind a link before we actually click on it.www.apple.com/ipod/www.microsoft.com/office/www.nintendo.com/wii/and so on...If you have garbage such as " &amp;id = 54353 " in your non-search URLs , you 're doing it wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Long URLs also (should) let us know what's behind a link before we actually click on it.www.apple.com/ipod/www.microsoft.com/office/www.nintendo.com/wii/and so on...If you have garbage such as "&amp;id=54353" in your non-search URLs, you're doing it wrong.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443490</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443774</id>
	<title>Re:Wouldn't be necessary if...</title>
	<author>bickerdyke</author>
	<datestamp>1260891000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>thats not only for search engines.</p><p>It's really handy to see where a link is going!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>thats not only for search engines.It 's really handy to see where a link is going !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>thats not only for search engines.It's really handy to see where a link is going!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443490</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30447070</id>
	<title>What we need...</title>
	<author>JHromadka</author>
	<datestamp>1260902940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>is an IP address shortening service.</htmltext>
<tokenext>is an IP address shortening service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is an IP address shortening service.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30445064</id>
	<title>Re:Other services work fine</title>
	<author>johntkucz</author>
	<datestamp>1260896460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I like the same old uniform resource locater system.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I like the same old uniform resource locater system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like the same old uniform resource locater system.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443298</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444300</id>
	<title>Re:They do?</title>
	<author>cheshiremoe</author>
	<datestamp>1260893460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is easier for the server to put up a busy page...  the busy HTML is cached where the redirect requires a query to the database.  If the Database is down or congested then the server returns a busy signal rather than telling the user were broken or timing out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is easier for the server to put up a busy page... the busy HTML is cached where the redirect requires a query to the database .
If the Database is down or congested then the server returns a busy signal rather than telling the user were broken or timing out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is easier for the server to put up a busy page...  the busy HTML is cached where the redirect requires a query to the database.
If the Database is down or congested then the server returns a busy signal rather than telling the user were broken or timing out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443620</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30445040</id>
	<title>Re:Is this really a problem?</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1260896400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You don't even need HTML knowledge when most message boards have their own basic code which will generally be generated by some TinyMCE-like javascript pop-up that anyone can use.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't even need HTML knowledge when most message boards have their own basic code which will generally be generated by some TinyMCE-like javascript pop-up that anyone can use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't even need HTML knowledge when most message boards have their own basic code which will generally be generated by some TinyMCE-like javascript pop-up that anyone can use.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443460</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444052</id>
	<title>Re:Is this really a problem?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260892200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even without cut and paste it doesn't make sense.  It's a lot easier to type in a few words or whatever rather than a bunch of random characters.</p><p>Besides, <i>nobody</i> should like links where you can't see the destination.  That's something a scammer/criminal/spammer would use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even without cut and paste it does n't make sense .
It 's a lot easier to type in a few words or whatever rather than a bunch of random characters.Besides , nobody should like links where you ca n't see the destination .
That 's something a scammer/criminal/spammer would use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even without cut and paste it doesn't make sense.
It's a lot easier to type in a few words or whatever rather than a bunch of random characters.Besides, nobody should like links where you can't see the destination.
That's something a scammer/criminal/spammer would use.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443460</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30448872</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Ichijo</author>
	<datestamp>1260910500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Aside from twitter and SMS which both have self-imposed limits, what's the point of these things?!</p></div></blockquote><p>I use them in web forums that like to hyphenate long URLs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Aside from twitter and SMS which both have self-imposed limits , what 's the point of these things ?
! I use them in web forums that like to hyphenate long URLs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aside from twitter and SMS which both have self-imposed limits, what's the point of these things?
!I use them in web forums that like to hyphenate long URLs.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30447690</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>earlymon</author>
	<datestamp>1260905280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap</p><p>Eggggselent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clapEggggselent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clapEggggselent.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443402</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30448222</id>
	<title>Re:Other services work fine</title>
	<author>mobby\_6kl</author>
	<datestamp>1260907440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cute URLs suck balls. There's only one <a href="http://freakinghugeurl.com/" title="freakinghugeurl.com">acceptable URL service</a> [freakinghugeurl.com], and it changes the totally lame <a href="http://www.expertsexchange.com/" title="expertsexchange.com">http://www.expertsexchange.com/</a> [expertsexchange.com] into a much more awesome www.freakinghugeurl.com/refer.php?count=4&amp;url=VjFaV2IxVXdNVWhVYTFacFRURndUbFJVU2xKb GJIQkpZWHBHYVZJeFdrcFZWekUwWVcxS2MxTnFXbGhpU jJoMldWY3hS MU5HU25WV2JVWk9Za1paZUZZeFVrcE9WMUpHWlVST1VWWkVRVGs9</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cute URLs suck balls .
There 's only one acceptable URL service [ freakinghugeurl.com ] , and it changes the totally lame http : //www.expertsexchange.com/ [ expertsexchange.com ] into a much more awesome www.freakinghugeurl.com/refer.php ? count = 4&amp;url = VjFaV2IxVXdNVWhVYTFacFRURndUbFJVU2xKb GJIQkpZWHBHYVZJeFdrcFZWekUwWVcxS2MxTnFXbGhpU jJoMldWY3hS MU5HU25WV2JVWk9Za1paZUZZeFVrcE9WMUpHWlVST1VWWkVRVGs9</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cute URLs suck balls.
There's only one acceptable URL service [freakinghugeurl.com], and it changes the totally lame http://www.expertsexchange.com/ [expertsexchange.com] into a much more awesome www.freakinghugeurl.com/refer.php?count=4&amp;url=VjFaV2IxVXdNVWhVYTFacFRURndUbFJVU2xKb GJIQkpZWHBHYVZJeFdrcFZWekUwWVcxS2MxTnFXbGhpU jJoMldWY3hS MU5HU25WV2JVWk9Za1paZUZZeFVrcE9WMUpHWlVST1VWWkVRVGs9</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443466</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Tezcat</author>
	<datestamp>1260889500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've often seen newspaper articles printing a tinyurl (or similar) link rather than linking to obscure, very long web addresses.<br>
It's a hell of a lot easier to type in a short series of numbers and letters than to accurately enter something like: <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8400962.stm" title="bbc.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8400962.stm</a> [bbc.co.uk]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've often seen newspaper articles printing a tinyurl ( or similar ) link rather than linking to obscure , very long web addresses .
It 's a hell of a lot easier to type in a short series of numbers and letters than to accurately enter something like : http : //news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8400962.stm [ bbc.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've often seen newspaper articles printing a tinyurl (or similar) link rather than linking to obscure, very long web addresses.
It's a hell of a lot easier to type in a short series of numbers and letters than to accurately enter something like: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8400962.stm [bbc.co.uk]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30449542</id>
	<title>Re:Other services work fine</title>
	<author>Paua Fritter</author>
	<datestamp>1260870600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My favourite is <a href="http://urlshorteningservicefortwitter.com/" title="urlshorten...witter.com">urlshorteningservicefortwitter.com</a> [urlshorten...witter.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My favourite is urlshorteningservicefortwitter.com [ urlshorten...witter.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My favourite is urlshorteningservicefortwitter.com [urlshorten...witter.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30448222</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30446218</id>
	<title>Re:Tweak.tk wins the shortening war!</title>
	<author>whoop</author>
	<datestamp>1260900360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm, it shortens <a href="http://goo.gl/" title="goo.gl" rel="nofollow">http://goo.gl/</a> [goo.gl] to <a href="http://googleurlshortener.tk./" title="googleurlshortener.tk." rel="nofollow">http://googleurlshortener.tk./</a> [googleurlshortener.tk.]  I think I broke it.</p><p>Oddly, it turns <a href="http://tweak.tk/" title="tweak.tk" rel="nofollow">http://tweak.tk/</a> [tweak.tk] into <a href="http://e80qk.tk./" title="e80qk.tk." rel="nofollow">http://e80qk.tk./</a> [e80qk.tk.]  My brain hurts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm , it shortens http : //goo.gl/ [ goo.gl ] to http : //googleurlshortener.tk./ [ googleurlshortener.tk .
] I think I broke it.Oddly , it turns http : //tweak.tk/ [ tweak.tk ] into http : //e80qk.tk./ [ e80qk.tk .
] My brain hurts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm, it shortens http://goo.gl/ [goo.gl] to http://googleurlshortener.tk./ [googleurlshortener.tk.
]  I think I broke it.Oddly, it turns http://tweak.tk/ [tweak.tk] into http://e80qk.tk./ [e80qk.tk.
]  My brain hurts.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443388</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444350</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260893700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ass<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ass : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ass :(</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443402</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444772</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>truthsearch</author>
	<datestamp>1260895440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why type a URL?  We all have copy and paste.  In all my years on the internet I've never used a URL shortening service or seen the need.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why type a URL ?
We all have copy and paste .
In all my years on the internet I 've never used a URL shortening service or seen the need .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why type a URL?
We all have copy and paste.
In all my years on the internet I've never used a URL shortening service or seen the need.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443466</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443578</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Sockatume</author>
	<datestamp>1260890100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ones like TinyURL, that let you specify a not-yet-used address, can be handy for making memorable links: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/whytinyurl" title="tinyurl.com">http://tinyurl.com/whytinyurl</a> [tinyurl.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ones like TinyURL , that let you specify a not-yet-used address , can be handy for making memorable links : http : //tinyurl.com/whytinyurl [ tinyurl.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ones like TinyURL, that let you specify a not-yet-used address, can be handy for making memorable links: http://tinyurl.com/whytinyurl [tinyurl.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443746</id>
	<title>Re:Tweak.tk wins the shortening war!</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1260890880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://3.ly/uXl" title="3.ly">http://3.ly/uXl</a> [3.ly]<br><a href="http://a2uhu.tk/" title="a2uhu.tk">http://a2uhu.tk</a> [a2uhu.tk]</p><p>Same length. (Both point to <a href="http://www.slashdot.org/" title="slashdot.org">http://www.slashdot.org</a> [slashdot.org].)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //3.ly/uXl [ 3.ly ] http : //a2uhu.tk [ a2uhu.tk ] Same length .
( Both point to http : //www.slashdot.org [ slashdot.org ] .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://3.ly/uXl [3.ly]http://a2uhu.tk [a2uhu.tk]Same length.
(Both point to http://www.slashdot.org [slashdot.org].
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443388</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30446042</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1260899760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And if you mis-type, with shortened URLs you are a lot more likely to get to another, completely unrelated, and especially completely unpredictable web site, while mis-typing the true URL will likely give you a simple 404. As an added bonus, the real URL will still be in your address bar, ready to be corrected.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And if you mis-type , with shortened URLs you are a lot more likely to get to another , completely unrelated , and especially completely unpredictable web site , while mis-typing the true URL will likely give you a simple 404 .
As an added bonus , the real URL will still be in your address bar , ready to be corrected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if you mis-type, with shortened URLs you are a lot more likely to get to another, completely unrelated, and especially completely unpredictable web site, while mis-typing the true URL will likely give you a simple 404.
As an added bonus, the real URL will still be in your address bar, ready to be corrected.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443466</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30448384</id>
	<title>They totally missed it...</title>
	<author>PortHaven</author>
	<datestamp>1260908100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They should have registered "Go.ogl",  what a perfect name for a url shortener.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They should have registered " Go.ogl " , what a perfect name for a url shortener .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should have registered "Go.ogl",  what a perfect name for a url shortener.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443494</id>
	<title>Not for consumer use</title>
	<author>popo</author>
	<datestamp>1260889620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Google URL Shortener is currently available for Google products and not for broader consumer use."</p><p>So I guess bit.ly still wins?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Google URL Shortener is currently available for Google products and not for broader consumer use .
" So I guess bit.ly still wins ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Google URL Shortener is currently available for Google products and not for broader consumer use.
"So I guess bit.ly still wins?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443344</id>
	<title>Damn!</title>
	<author>Voulnet</author>
	<datestamp>1260888960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We keep giving more of our independence and power to Google.

Google, have mercy!</htmltext>
<tokenext>We keep giving more of our independence and power to Google .
Google , have mercy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We keep giving more of our independence and power to Google.
Google, have mercy!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30450356</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260873780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I had to use one today, because Facebook didn't work right with an <a href="ftp://" title="ftp" rel="nofollow">ftp://</a> [ftp] style URL.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had to use one today , because Facebook did n't work right with an ftp : // [ ftp ] style URL .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had to use one today, because Facebook didn't work right with an ftp:// [ftp] style URL.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30445656</id>
	<title>it's a feature, stupid</title>
	<author>noric</author>
	<datestamp>1260898500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The summary paints 'publicly display aggregate and non-personally identifiable statistics about particular shortened links'  in a negative light, but this is actually a feature of su.pr.<br> <br>

'Su.pr is the only URL shortener that also helps your content get discovered! Every Su.pr URL exposes your content to StumbleUpon's nearly 8 million users!'. Yes well now it isn't the only one<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p.<br> <br>

Google does some bad shit, but I'm getting a little tired of people pretending they are clever because they 'out' google for doing some nefarious value-adding or reasonable activity.<br> <br>

<a href="http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/googled" title="aaronsw.com" rel="nofollow">Article</a> [aaronsw.com] on hacker news yesterday:<br>
'If Microsoft had Google&rsquo;s market share in search, is there any doubt that they&rsquo;d be systematically demoting or even banning their competitors in the search results? Demoting someone in Google is a virtual death sentence, and yet not only has Google never been accused of using this vast power, the idea itself is almost unimaginable.'</htmltext>
<tokenext>The summary paints 'publicly display aggregate and non-personally identifiable statistics about particular shortened links ' in a negative light , but this is actually a feature of su.pr .
'Su.pr is the only URL shortener that also helps your content get discovered !
Every Su.pr URL exposes your content to StumbleUpon 's nearly 8 million users ! ' .
Yes well now it is n't the only one : p . Google does some bad shit , but I 'm getting a little tired of people pretending they are clever because they 'out ' google for doing some nefarious value-adding or reasonable activity .
Article [ aaronsw.com ] on hacker news yesterday : 'If Microsoft had Google    s market share in search , is there any doubt that they    d be systematically demoting or even banning their competitors in the search results ?
Demoting someone in Google is a virtual death sentence , and yet not only has Google never been accused of using this vast power , the idea itself is almost unimaginable .
'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The summary paints 'publicly display aggregate and non-personally identifiable statistics about particular shortened links'  in a negative light, but this is actually a feature of su.pr.
'Su.pr is the only URL shortener that also helps your content get discovered!
Every Su.pr URL exposes your content to StumbleUpon's nearly 8 million users!'.
Yes well now it isn't the only one :p. 

Google does some bad shit, but I'm getting a little tired of people pretending they are clever because they 'out' google for doing some nefarious value-adding or reasonable activity.
Article [aaronsw.com] on hacker news yesterday:
'If Microsoft had Google’s market share in search, is there any doubt that they’d be systematically demoting or even banning their competitors in the search results?
Demoting someone in Google is a virtual death sentence, and yet not only has Google never been accused of using this vast power, the idea itself is almost unimaginable.
'</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443460</id>
	<title>Is this really a problem?</title>
	<author>geekmux</author>
	<datestamp>1260889440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the days(read decades) of "cut and paste", I really fail to see the real need for URL shortening, other than maybe sending a nice link to a goatse mirror to an unaware "friend" at work.</p><p>Sorry, it's kitschy at best.  And no, it doesn't "unclutter" jack shit.  Learn to insert a damn hyperlink within your text already(yet another decade-old solution to this non-problem).  Most input these days is HTML friendly anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the days ( read decades ) of " cut and paste " , I really fail to see the real need for URL shortening , other than maybe sending a nice link to a goatse mirror to an unaware " friend " at work.Sorry , it 's kitschy at best .
And no , it does n't " unclutter " jack shit .
Learn to insert a damn hyperlink within your text already ( yet another decade-old solution to this non-problem ) .
Most input these days is HTML friendly anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the days(read decades) of "cut and paste", I really fail to see the real need for URL shortening, other than maybe sending a nice link to a goatse mirror to an unaware "friend" at work.Sorry, it's kitschy at best.
And no, it doesn't "unclutter" jack shit.
Learn to insert a damn hyperlink within your text already(yet another decade-old solution to this non-problem).
Most input these days is HTML friendly anyway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443632</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Tim C</author>
	<datestamp>1260890400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're a lot easier to read out over the phone, for one - especially if you're deep linking into a site. Seen the URL that points to this article, for instance?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're a lot easier to read out over the phone , for one - especially if you 're deep linking into a site .
Seen the URL that points to this article , for instance ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're a lot easier to read out over the phone, for one - especially if you're deep linking into a site.
Seen the URL that points to this article, for instance?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444250</id>
	<title>Preview url</title>
	<author>De Lemming</author>
	<datestamp>1260893220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most of the time I cross such a shortened url, I want to see the full url before the redirect is completed.  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/preview.php" title="tinyurl.com">Tinyurl's preview option</a> [tinyurl.com] let me do that, without an account/login, it just saves the setting in a cookie.</p><p>Bit.ly has a <a href="http://bit.ly/pages/tools/" title="bit.ly">Firefox plugin</a> [bit.ly] to preview urls, but I don't want to install a browser plugin for each service.  And what if I'm using another browser?</p><p>I'm hoping Google will implement something similar to Tinyurl's system.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of the time I cross such a shortened url , I want to see the full url before the redirect is completed .
Tinyurl 's preview option [ tinyurl.com ] let me do that , without an account/login , it just saves the setting in a cookie.Bit.ly has a Firefox plugin [ bit.ly ] to preview urls , but I do n't want to install a browser plugin for each service .
And what if I 'm using another browser ? I 'm hoping Google will implement something similar to Tinyurl 's system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of the time I cross such a shortened url, I want to see the full url before the redirect is completed.
Tinyurl's preview option [tinyurl.com] let me do that, without an account/login, it just saves the setting in a cookie.Bit.ly has a Firefox plugin [bit.ly] to preview urls, but I don't want to install a browser plugin for each service.
And what if I'm using another browser?I'm hoping Google will implement something similar to Tinyurl's system.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444204</id>
	<title>Re:Other services work fine</title>
	<author>m1xram</author>
	<datestamp>1260892980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Any of these services has the potential to provide tracking on your usage of the web if they really catch on. Sometimes a bit of paranoia isn't a bad thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Any of these services has the potential to provide tracking on your usage of the web if they really catch on .
Sometimes a bit of paranoia is n't a bad thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any of these services has the potential to provide tracking on your usage of the web if they really catch on.
Sometimes a bit of paranoia isn't a bad thing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443298</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443586</id>
	<title>Re:Is this really a problem?</title>
	<author>Frozen-Solid</author>
	<datestamp>1260890160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They're mostly used on sites such as Facebook and Twitter, where you have a very small limit to the number of characters you can put in a post.  If your URL is 50 characters long, that's over a third of your entire post length and leaves little room to post the context of your link.

It's also useful for writing a short URL down on paper for a friend to be able to take home and easily type into their web browser for when e-mail is inconvenient.

Just because you can't come up with a use for it, doesn't make it any less of a popular service that millions of people use.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're mostly used on sites such as Facebook and Twitter , where you have a very small limit to the number of characters you can put in a post .
If your URL is 50 characters long , that 's over a third of your entire post length and leaves little room to post the context of your link .
It 's also useful for writing a short URL down on paper for a friend to be able to take home and easily type into their web browser for when e-mail is inconvenient .
Just because you ca n't come up with a use for it , does n't make it any less of a popular service that millions of people use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're mostly used on sites such as Facebook and Twitter, where you have a very small limit to the number of characters you can put in a post.
If your URL is 50 characters long, that's over a third of your entire post length and leaves little room to post the context of your link.
It's also useful for writing a short URL down on paper for a friend to be able to take home and easily type into their web browser for when e-mail is inconvenient.
Just because you can't come up with a use for it, doesn't make it any less of a popular service that millions of people use.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443460</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444794</id>
	<title>Re:Is this really a problem?</title>
	<author>dominious</author>
	<datestamp>1260895500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>In the days(read decades) of "cut and paste", I really fail to see the real need for URL shortening, other than maybe sending a nice link to a goatse mirror to an unaware "friend" at work.</p></div><p>I don't have a mouse you insensitive clod!<br>
<br>
and yes. I had to type your quote</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the days ( read decades ) of " cut and paste " , I really fail to see the real need for URL shortening , other than maybe sending a nice link to a goatse mirror to an unaware " friend " at work.I do n't have a mouse you insensitive clod !
and yes .
I had to type your quote</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the days(read decades) of "cut and paste", I really fail to see the real need for URL shortening, other than maybe sending a nice link to a goatse mirror to an unaware "friend" at work.I don't have a mouse you insensitive clod!
and yes.
I had to type your quote
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30443460</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_1323247.30444908</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260895920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Different solutions exist for sharing a URL (e.g. mu.subsume.com).  Much easier to just tell your dad (or whoever) to click a link you already put in his bookmarks than trying to make sure he retypes even a shortened URL correctly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Different solutions exist for sharing a URL ( e.g .
mu.subsume.com ) . Much easier to just tell your dad ( or whoever ) to click a link you already put in his bookmarks than trying to make sure he retypes even a shortened URL correctly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Different solutions exist for sharing a URL (e.g.
mu.subsume.com).  Much easier to just tell your dad (or whoever) to click a link you already put in his bookmarks than trying to make sure he retypes even a shortened URL correctly.</sentencetext>
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