<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_13_1925206</id>
	<title>How Do I Keep My Privacy While Using Google?</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1260693000000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>hubert.lepicki writes <i>"I use Google all the time. I keep two GMail tabs open when I'm online (one is private, another is a corporate account), I use Google search, and recently I switched to the Chromium browser. Google's services are fast, easy to use and usually reliable. At the same time, I know Google is tracking everything I do; I can see it in search results or their ads on web pages, which tend to match my interests. After the recent post by Mozilla's community director <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/12/11/0541259/Mozilla-Exec-Urges-Switch-From-Google-To-Bing">suggesting Bing has a better privacy policy</a> (a response to <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/12/08/0127219/Google-CEO-Says-Privacy-Worries-Are-For-Wrongdoers">questionable comments</a> from Google CEO Eric Schmidt), I started to... 'google' ways of keeping my private data safe while browsing and using Google services. The results weren't very helpful, so I ask you, Slashdotters: how do I stay anonymous to Google while using their services?"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>hubert.lepicki writes " I use Google all the time .
I keep two GMail tabs open when I 'm online ( one is private , another is a corporate account ) , I use Google search , and recently I switched to the Chromium browser .
Google 's services are fast , easy to use and usually reliable .
At the same time , I know Google is tracking everything I do ; I can see it in search results or their ads on web pages , which tend to match my interests .
After the recent post by Mozilla 's community director suggesting Bing has a better privacy policy ( a response to questionable comments from Google CEO Eric Schmidt ) , I started to... 'google ' ways of keeping my private data safe while browsing and using Google services .
The results were n't very helpful , so I ask you , Slashdotters : how do I stay anonymous to Google while using their services ?
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<sentencetext>hubert.lepicki writes "I use Google all the time.
I keep two GMail tabs open when I'm online (one is private, another is a corporate account), I use Google search, and recently I switched to the Chromium browser.
Google's services are fast, easy to use and usually reliable.
At the same time, I know Google is tracking everything I do; I can see it in search results or their ads on web pages, which tend to match my interests.
After the recent post by Mozilla's community director suggesting Bing has a better privacy policy (a response to questionable comments from Google CEO Eric Schmidt), I started to... 'google' ways of keeping my private data safe while browsing and using Google services.
The results weren't very helpful, so I ask you, Slashdotters: how do I stay anonymous to Google while using their services?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428292</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260729420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To help reduce the effectiveness of user tracking, put these in your browser's highest security zone (e.g., Restricted Sites) because this should prevent the script execution and cookies part of user tracking:</p><p>*.google.com<br>*.googlesyndication.com<br>*.google-syndication.com<br>*.googleadserver.com<br>*.doubleclick.com<br>*.doubleclick.net<br>*.youtube.com<br>*.ytimg.com</p><p>This can also be done with other advertisers (e.g., Fastclick) to prevent the execution of their scripts and download of their cookies. It requires no other software add-on or extension, and yet it will continue to work as long as the browser developers don't introduce security holes in their highest security zones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To help reduce the effectiveness of user tracking , put these in your browser 's highest security zone ( e.g. , Restricted Sites ) because this should prevent the script execution and cookies part of user tracking : * .google.com * .googlesyndication.com * .google-syndication.com * .googleadserver.com * .doubleclick.com * .doubleclick.net * .youtube.com * .ytimg.comThis can also be done with other advertisers ( e.g. , Fastclick ) to prevent the execution of their scripts and download of their cookies .
It requires no other software add-on or extension , and yet it will continue to work as long as the browser developers do n't introduce security holes in their highest security zones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To help reduce the effectiveness of user tracking, put these in your browser's highest security zone (e.g., Restricted Sites) because this should prevent the script execution and cookies part of user tracking:*.google.com*.googlesyndication.com*.google-syndication.com*.googleadserver.com*.doubleclick.com*.doubleclick.net*.youtube.com*.ytimg.comThis can also be done with other advertisers (e.g., Fastclick) to prevent the execution of their scripts and download of their cookies.
It requires no other software add-on or extension, and yet it will continue to work as long as the browser developers don't introduce security holes in their highest security zones.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424886</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30432172</id>
	<title>Why even bother</title>
	<author>ikeman32</author>
	<datestamp>1260811620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Honestly why does it really matter that google tracks how we search? Privacy is an illusion we create for our selves in order to feel secure. Only people who have something to hide have a real need to stay hidden so to speak. This almost Schizophrenic need to keep ones privacy is loosing battle. There are steps to keep you self safer online and more private like proxy servers and not signing up for every internet fad that comes along.

I personally don't give a rats hind quarters who views my search history. I like Google and don't plan on changing search engines any time soon. All this hoopla about Big Brother and stuff like that is paranoia. I once did a search for plans to a low yield nuclear device for a friend to prove a point that they (Big Brother and the powers that be) have better things to do with their time than to worry about us poor little peons. I didn't actually find the plans but I did find what appeared to be part of a Memo from the Manhattan Project. I searched for more than two hours and the FBI never showed up.

If you truly want privacy then unplug your network adapter, turn off your cell phone and unplug your land line; chop your credit and debit cards; close your bank accounts and go out into the woods to live. Privacy is truly an illusion, if you don't care for the illusion then it really isn't that big of a deal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Honestly why does it really matter that google tracks how we search ?
Privacy is an illusion we create for our selves in order to feel secure .
Only people who have something to hide have a real need to stay hidden so to speak .
This almost Schizophrenic need to keep ones privacy is loosing battle .
There are steps to keep you self safer online and more private like proxy servers and not signing up for every internet fad that comes along .
I personally do n't give a rats hind quarters who views my search history .
I like Google and do n't plan on changing search engines any time soon .
All this hoopla about Big Brother and stuff like that is paranoia .
I once did a search for plans to a low yield nuclear device for a friend to prove a point that they ( Big Brother and the powers that be ) have better things to do with their time than to worry about us poor little peons .
I did n't actually find the plans but I did find what appeared to be part of a Memo from the Manhattan Project .
I searched for more than two hours and the FBI never showed up .
If you truly want privacy then unplug your network adapter , turn off your cell phone and unplug your land line ; chop your credit and debit cards ; close your bank accounts and go out into the woods to live .
Privacy is truly an illusion , if you do n't care for the illusion then it really is n't that big of a deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Honestly why does it really matter that google tracks how we search?
Privacy is an illusion we create for our selves in order to feel secure.
Only people who have something to hide have a real need to stay hidden so to speak.
This almost Schizophrenic need to keep ones privacy is loosing battle.
There are steps to keep you self safer online and more private like proxy servers and not signing up for every internet fad that comes along.
I personally don't give a rats hind quarters who views my search history.
I like Google and don't plan on changing search engines any time soon.
All this hoopla about Big Brother and stuff like that is paranoia.
I once did a search for plans to a low yield nuclear device for a friend to prove a point that they (Big Brother and the powers that be) have better things to do with their time than to worry about us poor little peons.
I didn't actually find the plans but I did find what appeared to be part of a Memo from the Manhattan Project.
I searched for more than two hours and the FBI never showed up.
If you truly want privacy then unplug your network adapter, turn off your cell phone and unplug your land line; chop your credit and debit cards; close your bank accounts and go out into the woods to live.
Privacy is truly an illusion, if you don't care for the illusion then it really isn't that big of a deal.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426036</id>
	<title>Re:What's the big deal?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260706500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Part of the "big deal" is that if someone is aggregating search results based on what they (Google) think you want, then they have to have a model of who they think you are. As soon as the information that you are receiving is based on on who someone thinks you are, they are in essence beginning to define you by controlling the information you receive based on that model.</p><p>I guess it is a little disconcerting because I am a firm believer that it is not your thoughts or in this case, searches, which define you. It is how you process those thoughts, and interpret those search results into words and actions which defines you...and Google can't access that information (yet), they can just assume.</p><p>Is is a privacy Armageddon? No, but it needs to be matched with a high level of skepticism, because this is one of those things that you can't undo very easily. Once the information is available, it is incredibly naive to think that it can't be used by anyone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Part of the " big deal " is that if someone is aggregating search results based on what they ( Google ) think you want , then they have to have a model of who they think you are .
As soon as the information that you are receiving is based on on who someone thinks you are , they are in essence beginning to define you by controlling the information you receive based on that model.I guess it is a little disconcerting because I am a firm believer that it is not your thoughts or in this case , searches , which define you .
It is how you process those thoughts , and interpret those search results into words and actions which defines you...and Google ca n't access that information ( yet ) , they can just assume.Is is a privacy Armageddon ?
No , but it needs to be matched with a high level of skepticism , because this is one of those things that you ca n't undo very easily .
Once the information is available , it is incredibly naive to think that it ca n't be used by anyone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Part of the "big deal" is that if someone is aggregating search results based on what they (Google) think you want, then they have to have a model of who they think you are.
As soon as the information that you are receiving is based on on who someone thinks you are, they are in essence beginning to define you by controlling the information you receive based on that model.I guess it is a little disconcerting because I am a firm believer that it is not your thoughts or in this case, searches, which define you.
It is how you process those thoughts, and interpret those search results into words and actions which defines you...and Google can't access that information (yet), they can just assume.Is is a privacy Armageddon?
No, but it needs to be matched with a high level of skepticism, because this is one of those things that you can't undo very easily.
Once the information is available, it is incredibly naive to think that it can't be used by anyone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424808</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30513878</id>
	<title>it's not so black and white</title>
	<author>K10W</author>
	<datestamp>1261419600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Could be wrong but I think many people can get a little paranoid when it comes to privacy concerns such extreme views harm the sensible middle ground of suggesting a moderate response I feel. It seems to many to be a black and white issue, people, all my friends and family included, tend toward either having no privacy concerns what so ever and completely devaluing privacy or going to the extreme of verging on paranoid about their details. I am not overly concerned about such things myself, but this doesn't mean I have no concerns. I don't use social networking sites of any kind and don't throw many of my details from name and dob to place of residence around unintentionally and only use when needed. Privacy should be a concern though, I have nothing to hide but that doesn't mean I don't value privacy despite invasions of it would just turn up I'm a pretty regular boring person. In fact with harsh honesty I'm probably statistically more interesting and unique in that I'm more boring than your average person.

I'd agree there is little complete privacy left where internet and shared data is concerned. Even if you never use a computer and work for cash in hand alone there is still medical records, police and other records etc etc. Short of opting out of the system completely and not functioning in regular society you can't avoid it and becoming invisible in that way actually brings attention that would be deemed more sinister by many that hiding in plain sight would avoid. I do use google for some things including 2 gmail accounts but the extent of my use and manner in which I use it just means it works for me and the info I've shared in the process makes it worth it for me I feel. I am not so black and white and sit more in the middle, there should be educated choice though and not blantant disregard for what details we share with the world. For the record I do use 2 gmail accounts for some (not all) things and shop online etc etc but adblock and script blocking is common sense to me since evn though I have nothing to hide I don't see any reason of value to me why I should unwittingly share my details with everyone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could be wrong but I think many people can get a little paranoid when it comes to privacy concerns such extreme views harm the sensible middle ground of suggesting a moderate response I feel .
It seems to many to be a black and white issue , people , all my friends and family included , tend toward either having no privacy concerns what so ever and completely devaluing privacy or going to the extreme of verging on paranoid about their details .
I am not overly concerned about such things myself , but this does n't mean I have no concerns .
I do n't use social networking sites of any kind and do n't throw many of my details from name and dob to place of residence around unintentionally and only use when needed .
Privacy should be a concern though , I have nothing to hide but that does n't mean I do n't value privacy despite invasions of it would just turn up I 'm a pretty regular boring person .
In fact with harsh honesty I 'm probably statistically more interesting and unique in that I 'm more boring than your average person .
I 'd agree there is little complete privacy left where internet and shared data is concerned .
Even if you never use a computer and work for cash in hand alone there is still medical records , police and other records etc etc .
Short of opting out of the system completely and not functioning in regular society you ca n't avoid it and becoming invisible in that way actually brings attention that would be deemed more sinister by many that hiding in plain sight would avoid .
I do use google for some things including 2 gmail accounts but the extent of my use and manner in which I use it just means it works for me and the info I 've shared in the process makes it worth it for me I feel .
I am not so black and white and sit more in the middle , there should be educated choice though and not blantant disregard for what details we share with the world .
For the record I do use 2 gmail accounts for some ( not all ) things and shop online etc etc but adblock and script blocking is common sense to me since evn though I have nothing to hide I do n't see any reason of value to me why I should unwittingly share my details with everyone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could be wrong but I think many people can get a little paranoid when it comes to privacy concerns such extreme views harm the sensible middle ground of suggesting a moderate response I feel.
It seems to many to be a black and white issue, people, all my friends and family included, tend toward either having no privacy concerns what so ever and completely devaluing privacy or going to the extreme of verging on paranoid about their details.
I am not overly concerned about such things myself, but this doesn't mean I have no concerns.
I don't use social networking sites of any kind and don't throw many of my details from name and dob to place of residence around unintentionally and only use when needed.
Privacy should be a concern though, I have nothing to hide but that doesn't mean I don't value privacy despite invasions of it would just turn up I'm a pretty regular boring person.
In fact with harsh honesty I'm probably statistically more interesting and unique in that I'm more boring than your average person.
I'd agree there is little complete privacy left where internet and shared data is concerned.
Even if you never use a computer and work for cash in hand alone there is still medical records, police and other records etc etc.
Short of opting out of the system completely and not functioning in regular society you can't avoid it and becoming invisible in that way actually brings attention that would be deemed more sinister by many that hiding in plain sight would avoid.
I do use google for some things including 2 gmail accounts but the extent of my use and manner in which I use it just means it works for me and the info I've shared in the process makes it worth it for me I feel.
I am not so black and white and sit more in the middle, there should be educated choice though and not blantant disregard for what details we share with the world.
For the record I do use 2 gmail accounts for some (not all) things and shop online etc etc but adblock and script blocking is common sense to me since evn though I have nothing to hide I don't see any reason of value to me why I should unwittingly share my details with everyone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424886</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260697440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is like a steer asking, "how can I keep getting this free food and board without being taken to the slaughter house later?"</p><p>To Google, you are the product.  They are selling advertising.  More specifically, they are selling your attention to marketers.  Giving you privacy is contradictory to the entire purpose of their existence.  They give you nice, fast, free stuff to keep you hooked in to their services and to keep collecting more data so that they can sell more advertising.</p><p>There is no privacy using Google services.  There never will be.  They will keep encroaching into your private info as far as you let them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is like a steer asking , " how can I keep getting this free food and board without being taken to the slaughter house later ?
" To Google , you are the product .
They are selling advertising .
More specifically , they are selling your attention to marketers .
Giving you privacy is contradictory to the entire purpose of their existence .
They give you nice , fast , free stuff to keep you hooked in to their services and to keep collecting more data so that they can sell more advertising.There is no privacy using Google services .
There never will be .
They will keep encroaching into your private info as far as you let them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is like a steer asking, "how can I keep getting this free food and board without being taken to the slaughter house later?
"To Google, you are the product.
They are selling advertising.
More specifically, they are selling your attention to marketers.
Giving you privacy is contradictory to the entire purpose of their existence.
They give you nice, fast, free stuff to keep you hooked in to their services and to keep collecting more data so that they can sell more advertising.There is no privacy using Google services.
There never will be.
They will keep encroaching into your private info as far as you let them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426588</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260711900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google never "invades your privacy". You didn't have one to begin with, and you forfeit it anyways by using their services.<br>I completely agree that privacy should be protected, but this case is a non-starter. Don't like it? Don't use it.<br>There's even the Dashboard to know/control how much they know about you, though I guess if you didn't trust them you wouldn't trust their tool to do the job either...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google never " invades your privacy " .
You did n't have one to begin with , and you forfeit it anyways by using their services.I completely agree that privacy should be protected , but this case is a non-starter .
Do n't like it ?
Do n't use it.There 's even the Dashboard to know/control how much they know about you , though I guess if you did n't trust them you would n't trust their tool to do the job either.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google never "invades your privacy".
You didn't have one to begin with, and you forfeit it anyways by using their services.I completely agree that privacy should be protected, but this case is a non-starter.
Don't like it?
Don't use it.There's even the Dashboard to know/control how much they know about you, though I guess if you didn't trust them you wouldn't trust their tool to do the job either...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425174</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425764</id>
	<title>Use Firefox with add-ons</title>
	<author>synoniem</author>
	<datestamp>1260704100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>By using Firefox with Noscript, Adblock Plus en Ghostery I think Google do not get that much of my habits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By using Firefox with Noscript , Adblock Plus en Ghostery I think Google do not get that much of my habits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By using Firefox with Noscript, Adblock Plus en Ghostery I think Google do not get that much of my habits.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425012</id>
	<title>what about</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260698400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>not using google and using ecosia?</p><p>the privacy is much better and you also serve a good cause</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>not using google and using ecosia ? the privacy is much better and you also serve a good cause</tokentext>
<sentencetext>not using google and using ecosia?the privacy is much better and you also serve a good cause</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428422</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>ajlisows</author>
	<datestamp>1260731400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if I don't have anything to hide, my internet search habits could be construed by some as dangerous.  Just because of things that have come up in real life or online discussions, I probably have some pretty strange things in my search history.  "Child Porn Malware" (I think I also searched for "Child Porn Trojan" which can seriously be misconstrued) being a recent example.  This search was obviously due to the recent "Surprise, you are a sex offender" malware but with how things work you never can tell how someone would react to that if they went digging through my information in the future.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if I do n't have anything to hide , my internet search habits could be construed by some as dangerous .
Just because of things that have come up in real life or online discussions , I probably have some pretty strange things in my search history .
" Child Porn Malware " ( I think I also searched for " Child Porn Trojan " which can seriously be misconstrued ) being a recent example .
This search was obviously due to the recent " Surprise , you are a sex offender " malware but with how things work you never can tell how someone would react to that if they went digging through my information in the future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if I don't have anything to hide, my internet search habits could be construed by some as dangerous.
Just because of things that have come up in real life or online discussions, I probably have some pretty strange things in my search history.
"Child Porn Malware" (I think I also searched for "Child Porn Trojan" which can seriously be misconstrued) being a recent example.
This search was obviously due to the recent "Surprise, you are a sex offender" malware but with how things work you never can tell how someone would react to that if they went digging through my information in the future.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426360</id>
	<title>Well duh</title>
	<author>Aokisensei</author>
	<datestamp>1260709560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just use Mystery Google!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just use Mystery Google !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just use Mystery Google!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424800</id>
	<title>scroogle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260697020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>check scroogle...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>check scroogle.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>check scroogle...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30427776</id>
	<title>Re:Its the cost of admission...</title>
	<author>caitsith01</author>
	<datestamp>1260723180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Nothing is free and if you use their services, your privacy, at least in part, is the cost. If the price is too high, go somewhere else.</p></div><p>Which would be a more reasonable position if that trade off was made MUCH more explicit and obvious to people using the service.  Most people I know who use GMail have not got a clue about Google's data retention practices, for example.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nothing is free and if you use their services , your privacy , at least in part , is the cost .
If the price is too high , go somewhere else.Which would be a more reasonable position if that trade off was made MUCH more explicit and obvious to people using the service .
Most people I know who use GMail have not got a clue about Google 's data retention practices , for example .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nothing is free and if you use their services, your privacy, at least in part, is the cost.
If the price is too high, go somewhere else.Which would be a more reasonable position if that trade off was made MUCH more explicit and obvious to people using the service.
Most people I know who use GMail have not got a clue about Google's data retention practices, for example.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424980</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424828</id>
	<title>You Don't</title>
	<author>phantomcircuit</author>
	<datestamp>1260697140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you are logged into gmail you cannot possibly retain your privacy.</p><p>Short of deleting all google cookies and changing your ip after using gmail you cannot retain your privacy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you are logged into gmail you can not possibly retain your privacy.Short of deleting all google cookies and changing your ip after using gmail you can not retain your privacy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you are logged into gmail you cannot possibly retain your privacy.Short of deleting all google cookies and changing your ip after using gmail you cannot retain your privacy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30427670</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260722100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and the police need \_probable\_cause\_ to invade your privacy.  Google gets to do it willy nilly</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and the police need \ _probable \ _cause \ _ to invade your privacy .
Google gets to do it willy nilly</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and the police need \_probable\_cause\_ to invade your privacy.
Google gets to do it willy nilly</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425174</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430260</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>thegeekprofessor</author>
	<datestamp>1260801900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Never say you have nothing to hide:

<a href="http://www.thegeekprofessor.com/privacy/nothing-to-hide/" title="thegeekprofessor.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thegeekprofessor.com/privacy/nothing-to-hide/</a> [thegeekprofessor.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Never say you have nothing to hide : http : //www.thegeekprofessor.com/privacy/nothing-to-hide/ [ thegeekprofessor.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Never say you have nothing to hide:

http://www.thegeekprofessor.com/privacy/nothing-to-hide/ [thegeekprofessor.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425774</id>
	<title>scroogle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260704160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.scroogle.org/" title="scroogle.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.scroogle.org/</a> [scroogle.org]</p><p>Google scraper. No cookies, no search-term records, access log deleted within 48 hours. There are search addons for it for various browsers too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.scroogle.org/ [ scroogle.org ] Google scraper .
No cookies , no search-term records , access log deleted within 48 hours .
There are search addons for it for various browsers too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.scroogle.org/ [scroogle.org]Google scraper.
No cookies, no search-term records, access log deleted within 48 hours.
There are search addons for it for various browsers too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424824</id>
	<title>scroogle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260697140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://www.scroogle.org/  is a google screen scraper that doesn't pass google cookies or IP data on searches. It sends search requests as from itself and strips out cookies and ads and forwards results to your browser. They have a firefox plugin to set it as a search engine in the search bar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.scroogle.org/ is a google screen scraper that does n't pass google cookies or IP data on searches .
It sends search requests as from itself and strips out cookies and ads and forwards results to your browser .
They have a firefox plugin to set it as a search engine in the search bar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.scroogle.org/  is a google screen scraper that doesn't pass google cookies or IP data on searches.
It sends search requests as from itself and strips out cookies and ads and forwards results to your browser.
They have a firefox plugin to set it as a search engine in the search bar.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426492</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong Problem</title>
	<author>stephanruby</author>
	<datestamp>1260711000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My ISP is Google you insensitive clod! Seriously thought, Google also knows my real-time location through Google Latitude. This is what enables them to give you current traffic information on the smaller roads (on freeways, they use the data from the Caltrans sensors). Not that this bothers me, I'm also a paid user of Google Apps Premier, and I kind of wish they had better integration between their services (certainly not less of it).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My ISP is Google you insensitive clod !
Seriously thought , Google also knows my real-time location through Google Latitude .
This is what enables them to give you current traffic information on the smaller roads ( on freeways , they use the data from the Caltrans sensors ) .
Not that this bothers me , I 'm also a paid user of Google Apps Premier , and I kind of wish they had better integration between their services ( certainly not less of it ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My ISP is Google you insensitive clod!
Seriously thought, Google also knows my real-time location through Google Latitude.
This is what enables them to give you current traffic information on the smaller roads (on freeways, they use the data from the Caltrans sensors).
Not that this bothers me, I'm also a paid user of Google Apps Premier, and I kind of wish they had better integration between their services (certainly not less of it).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425648</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425362</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260700980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"...they are sharing it with secretive agencies..."</p><p>Um, remember the AT&amp;T/NSA link?  If the NSA can watch all your internet stuff, they don't even need to get Google or Microsoft to share it, except, perhaps for convenience and/or to make you forget about that link and your lost privacy, even if you never use Google.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...they are sharing it with secretive agencies... " Um , remember the AT&amp;T/NSA link ?
If the NSA can watch all your internet stuff , they do n't even need to get Google or Microsoft to share it , except , perhaps for convenience and/or to make you forget about that link and your lost privacy , even if you never use Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"...they are sharing it with secretive agencies..."Um, remember the AT&amp;T/NSA link?
If the NSA can watch all your internet stuff, they don't even need to get Google or Microsoft to share it, except, perhaps for convenience and/or to make you forget about that link and your lost privacy, even if you never use Google.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424964</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426226</id>
	<title>get a sense of perspective...</title>
	<author>muttsnutman</author>
	<datestamp>1260708060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Define Privacy for goodness sake!
If you are worried about targetted advertising, stay off the damn net.
If you care if someone knows your favorite color don't fill in questionairres.
The amount of useful information someone - (conspiracy theorists enter your preferred bogeyman here) can deduce from online search queries and your browsing habits is about as significant as the initial letter of your mothers maiden name - jack sh*t - unless they already have a huge amount of collateral information.
On the other hand if you are really paranoid you could spend all day building a false web identity... or you could get a life.
If you are of interest to 'those people' they can find out what they want to know with minimal effort, so chill and accept the trade-off.
Google finds you info and maybe sets you up for advertisers, spooks etc. Is it worth the price - You decide - just like a grown up, you pays your money and takes your chances.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Define Privacy for goodness sake !
If you are worried about targetted advertising , stay off the damn net .
If you care if someone knows your favorite color do n't fill in questionairres .
The amount of useful information someone - ( conspiracy theorists enter your preferred bogeyman here ) can deduce from online search queries and your browsing habits is about as significant as the initial letter of your mothers maiden name - jack sh * t - unless they already have a huge amount of collateral information .
On the other hand if you are really paranoid you could spend all day building a false web identity... or you could get a life .
If you are of interest to 'those people ' they can find out what they want to know with minimal effort , so chill and accept the trade-off .
Google finds you info and maybe sets you up for advertisers , spooks etc .
Is it worth the price - You decide - just like a grown up , you pays your money and takes your chances .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Define Privacy for goodness sake!
If you are worried about targetted advertising, stay off the damn net.
If you care if someone knows your favorite color don't fill in questionairres.
The amount of useful information someone - (conspiracy theorists enter your preferred bogeyman here) can deduce from online search queries and your browsing habits is about as significant as the initial letter of your mothers maiden name - jack sh*t - unless they already have a huge amount of collateral information.
On the other hand if you are really paranoid you could spend all day building a false web identity... or you could get a life.
If you are of interest to 'those people' they can find out what they want to know with minimal effort, so chill and accept the trade-off.
Google finds you info and maybe sets you up for advertisers, spooks etc.
Is it worth the price - You decide - just like a grown up, you pays your money and takes your chances.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430654</id>
	<title>Re:Not exactly what you want, but</title>
	<author>sparkz</author>
	<datestamp>1260804480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You might want to change "cat &gt;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/etc/hosts" to "cat &gt;&gt;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/etc/hosts"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>You might want to change " cat &gt; /etc/hosts " to " cat &gt; &gt; /etc/hosts " : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You might want to change "cat &gt; /etc/hosts" to "cat &gt;&gt; /etc/hosts" :-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424830</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30427970</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260725460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> if you don't have anything to hide.. who cares</p></div><p>Anyone with more brains than money.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>if you do n't have anything to hide.. who caresAnyone with more brains than money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> if you don't have anything to hide.. who caresAnyone with more brains than money.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424848</id>
	<title>Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>pavon</author>
	<datestamp>1260697260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use my butler Jeeves for everything. He arranges my travel, does my bills, and picks up anything I need from the store. He is fast, courteous and usually reliable. At the same time I know that he is aware of everything I do; I can see it in the way he can often provide suggestions which tend to match my interests. Do to some misplaced comments of his, I am now suspicious that he may not respect my privacy. How do I remain anonymous from my butler while still having him provide all the personal services that I am accustomed to?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use my butler Jeeves for everything .
He arranges my travel , does my bills , and picks up anything I need from the store .
He is fast , courteous and usually reliable .
At the same time I know that he is aware of everything I do ; I can see it in the way he can often provide suggestions which tend to match my interests .
Do to some misplaced comments of his , I am now suspicious that he may not respect my privacy .
How do I remain anonymous from my butler while still having him provide all the personal services that I am accustomed to ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use my butler Jeeves for everything.
He arranges my travel, does my bills, and picks up anything I need from the store.
He is fast, courteous and usually reliable.
At the same time I know that he is aware of everything I do; I can see it in the way he can often provide suggestions which tend to match my interests.
Do to some misplaced comments of his, I am now suspicious that he may not respect my privacy.
How do I remain anonymous from my butler while still having him provide all the personal services that I am accustomed to?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30429764</id>
	<title>Re:Truth is, there is no privacy anywhere.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260796680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>  <a href="https://ixquick.com/" title="ixquick.com" rel="nofollow">https://ixquick.com/</a> [ixquick.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>https : //ixquick.com/ [ ixquick.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  https://ixquick.com/ [ixquick.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424842</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30431046</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Doctor O</author>
	<datestamp>1260806460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>To the degree that you really believe what you wrote there, you are an idiot.</p></div><p>And I would like to add the old "if you have nothing to hide, let me install cams in your bedroom and toilet and broadcast them live over the Internet".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To the degree that you really believe what you wrote there , you are an idiot.And I would like to add the old " if you have nothing to hide , let me install cams in your bedroom and toilet and broadcast them live over the Internet " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To the degree that you really believe what you wrote there, you are an idiot.And I would like to add the old "if you have nothing to hide, let me install cams in your bedroom and toilet and broadcast them live over the Internet".
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425048</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430880</id>
	<title>Google Search Proxy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260805560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Scroogle (scroogle.org)<br>"An ad-free Google search proxy which prevents the searcher's data being stored by Google, a Firefox plugin, and tools for webmasters."</p><p>Nuff said.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Scroogle ( scroogle.org ) " An ad-free Google search proxy which prevents the searcher 's data being stored by Google , a Firefox plugin , and tools for webmasters .
" Nuff said .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Scroogle (scroogle.org)"An ad-free Google search proxy which prevents the searcher's data being stored by Google, a Firefox plugin, and tools for webmasters.
"Nuff said.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425636</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>hubert.lepicki</author>
	<datestamp>1260703020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is very useful, thank you<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;). But I got your point!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is very useful , thank you ; ) .
But I got your point !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is very useful, thank you ;).
But I got your point!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424982</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>bonch</author>
	<datestamp>1260698040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you don't have anything to hide.. who cares</p></div></blockquote><p>Welcome to the new Slashdot, where everything Google does is great, and only people with something to hide would care about privacy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you do n't have anything to hide.. who caresWelcome to the new Slashdot , where everything Google does is great , and only people with something to hide would care about privacy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you don't have anything to hide.. who caresWelcome to the new Slashdot, where everything Google does is great, and only people with something to hide would care about privacy.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428466</id>
	<title>The personalized ads can be disabled</title>
	<author>meuhlavache</author>
	<datestamp>1260732420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Right here <a href="http://www.google.com/privacy\_ads.html" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/privacy\_ads.html</a> [google.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Right here http : //www.google.com/privacy \ _ads.html [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right here http://www.google.com/privacy\_ads.html [google.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425142</id>
	<title>Hunters....yet again</title>
	<author>SuperBanana</author>
	<datestamp>1260699360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you don't have anything to hide.. who cares</i></p><p>Kinda sad that I have to post this for the second time in a week.  Disclaimer: from Slashdot, not originally mine.</p><blockquote><div><p>"Yeah! Hunters don't kill the *innocent* animals - they look for the shifty-eyed ones that are probably the criminal element of their species!"</p><p>"If the're not guilty, why are they running?"</p><p>
&nbsp; I wrote about this a while ago. Here's the text:</p><p>"If you haven't done anything wrong, what do you have to hide?"</p><p>Ever heard that one? I work in information security, so I have heard it more than my fair share. I've always hated that reasoning, because I am a little bit paranoid by nature, something which serves me very well in my profession. So my standard response to people who have asked that question near me has been "because I'm paranoid." But that doesn't usually help, since most people who would ask that question see paranoia as a bad thing to begin with. So for a long time I've been trying to come up with a valid, reasoned, and intelligent answer which shoots the holes in the flawed logic that need to be there.</p><p>And someone unknowingly provided me with just that answer today. In a conversation about hunting, somebody posted this about prey animals and hunters:<br>"Yeah! Hunters don't kill the *innocent* animals - they look for the shifty-eyed ones that are probably the criminal element of their species!"<br>but in a brilliant (and very funny) retort, someone else said:<br>"If the're not guilty, why are they running?"</p><p>Suddenly it made sense, that nagging thing in the back of my head. The logical reason why a reasonable dose of paranoia is healthy. Because it's one thing to be afraid of the TRUTH. People who commit murder or otherwise deprive others of their Natural Rights are afraid of the TRUTH, because it is the light of TRUTH that will help bring them to justice.</p><p>But it's another thing entirely to be afraid of hunters. And all too often, the hunters are the ones proclaiming to be looking for TRUTH. But they are more concerned with removing any obstactles to finding the TRUTH, even when that means bulldozing over people's rights (the right to privacy, the right to anonymity) in their quest for it. And sadly, these people often cannot tell the difference between the appearance of TRUTH and TRUTH itself. And these, the ones who are so convinced they have found the TRUTH that they stop looking for it, are some of the worst oppressors of Natural Rights the world has ever known.</p><p>They are the hunters, and it is right and good for the prey to be afraid of the hunters, and to run away from them. Do not be fooled when a hunter says "why are you running from me if you have nothing to hide?" Because having something to hide is not the only reason to be hiding something.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you do n't have anything to hide.. who caresKinda sad that I have to post this for the second time in a week .
Disclaimer : from Slashdot , not originally mine. " Yeah !
Hunters do n't kill the * innocent * animals - they look for the shifty-eyed ones that are probably the criminal element of their species !
" " If the 're not guilty , why are they running ?
"   I wrote about this a while ago .
Here 's the text : " If you have n't done anything wrong , what do you have to hide ?
" Ever heard that one ?
I work in information security , so I have heard it more than my fair share .
I 've always hated that reasoning , because I am a little bit paranoid by nature , something which serves me very well in my profession .
So my standard response to people who have asked that question near me has been " because I 'm paranoid .
" But that does n't usually help , since most people who would ask that question see paranoia as a bad thing to begin with .
So for a long time I 've been trying to come up with a valid , reasoned , and intelligent answer which shoots the holes in the flawed logic that need to be there.And someone unknowingly provided me with just that answer today .
In a conversation about hunting , somebody posted this about prey animals and hunters : " Yeah !
Hunters do n't kill the * innocent * animals - they look for the shifty-eyed ones that are probably the criminal element of their species !
" but in a brilliant ( and very funny ) retort , someone else said : " If the 're not guilty , why are they running ?
" Suddenly it made sense , that nagging thing in the back of my head .
The logical reason why a reasonable dose of paranoia is healthy .
Because it 's one thing to be afraid of the TRUTH .
People who commit murder or otherwise deprive others of their Natural Rights are afraid of the TRUTH , because it is the light of TRUTH that will help bring them to justice.But it 's another thing entirely to be afraid of hunters .
And all too often , the hunters are the ones proclaiming to be looking for TRUTH .
But they are more concerned with removing any obstactles to finding the TRUTH , even when that means bulldozing over people 's rights ( the right to privacy , the right to anonymity ) in their quest for it .
And sadly , these people often can not tell the difference between the appearance of TRUTH and TRUTH itself .
And these , the ones who are so convinced they have found the TRUTH that they stop looking for it , are some of the worst oppressors of Natural Rights the world has ever known.They are the hunters , and it is right and good for the prey to be afraid of the hunters , and to run away from them .
Do not be fooled when a hunter says " why are you running from me if you have nothing to hide ?
" Because having something to hide is not the only reason to be hiding something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you don't have anything to hide.. who caresKinda sad that I have to post this for the second time in a week.
Disclaimer: from Slashdot, not originally mine."Yeah!
Hunters don't kill the *innocent* animals - they look for the shifty-eyed ones that are probably the criminal element of their species!
""If the're not guilty, why are they running?
"
  I wrote about this a while ago.
Here's the text:"If you haven't done anything wrong, what do you have to hide?
"Ever heard that one?
I work in information security, so I have heard it more than my fair share.
I've always hated that reasoning, because I am a little bit paranoid by nature, something which serves me very well in my profession.
So my standard response to people who have asked that question near me has been "because I'm paranoid.
" But that doesn't usually help, since most people who would ask that question see paranoia as a bad thing to begin with.
So for a long time I've been trying to come up with a valid, reasoned, and intelligent answer which shoots the holes in the flawed logic that need to be there.And someone unknowingly provided me with just that answer today.
In a conversation about hunting, somebody posted this about prey animals and hunters:"Yeah!
Hunters don't kill the *innocent* animals - they look for the shifty-eyed ones that are probably the criminal element of their species!
"but in a brilliant (and very funny) retort, someone else said:"If the're not guilty, why are they running?
"Suddenly it made sense, that nagging thing in the back of my head.
The logical reason why a reasonable dose of paranoia is healthy.
Because it's one thing to be afraid of the TRUTH.
People who commit murder or otherwise deprive others of their Natural Rights are afraid of the TRUTH, because it is the light of TRUTH that will help bring them to justice.But it's another thing entirely to be afraid of hunters.
And all too often, the hunters are the ones proclaiming to be looking for TRUTH.
But they are more concerned with removing any obstactles to finding the TRUTH, even when that means bulldozing over people's rights (the right to privacy, the right to anonymity) in their quest for it.
And sadly, these people often cannot tell the difference between the appearance of TRUTH and TRUTH itself.
And these, the ones who are so convinced they have found the TRUTH that they stop looking for it, are some of the worst oppressors of Natural Rights the world has ever known.They are the hunters, and it is right and good for the prey to be afraid of the hunters, and to run away from them.
Do not be fooled when a hunter says "why are you running from me if you have nothing to hide?
" Because having something to hide is not the only reason to be hiding something.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30427066</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas</title>
	<author>jimmyharris</author>
	<datestamp>1260715740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Try <a href="http://www.optimizegoogle.com/" title="optimizegoogle.com">Optimize Google</a> [optimizegoogle.com] instead.  It's a far more actively maintained fork.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Try Optimize Google [ optimizegoogle.com ] instead .
It 's a far more actively maintained fork .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try Optimize Google [optimizegoogle.com] instead.
It's a far more actively maintained fork.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424822</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426680</id>
	<title>It goes beyond your choices...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260712620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google is now so ubiquitous you are likely going to end up in their database one whether you actively subscribe to their services or not.</p><p>How many among us don't have at least a few close friends or colleagues who are heavy Gmail users?</p><p>Any correspondence you make with Gmail users is logged eternally in Google's vast databases and can be used to build a profile of you at some point in the future, if it serves the purposes of the owners of that information.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google is now so ubiquitous you are likely going to end up in their database one whether you actively subscribe to their services or not.How many among us do n't have at least a few close friends or colleagues who are heavy Gmail users ? Any correspondence you make with Gmail users is logged eternally in Google 's vast databases and can be used to build a profile of you at some point in the future , if it serves the purposes of the owners of that information .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google is now so ubiquitous you are likely going to end up in their database one whether you actively subscribe to their services or not.How many among us don't have at least a few close friends or colleagues who are heavy Gmail users?Any correspondence you make with Gmail users is logged eternally in Google's vast databases and can be used to build a profile of you at some point in the future, if it serves the purposes of the owners of that information.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430064</id>
	<title>Privacy, HAHAHAHAHA</title>
	<author>fixmedaily</author>
	<datestamp>1260800220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You think you have any privacy? Are you using Windows Vista or "7", well your every key stroke on and off line are recorded and sent to the NSA!. Do you use a cell phone? Same thing. You are tapped, bugged, tracked, labeled and directed every minute of every day.

Google tracking is the least of your worries.

Now, pull the blinders over your eyes, claim this as the rambling of a paranoid fool and go back to sleep!</htmltext>
<tokenext>You think you have any privacy ?
Are you using Windows Vista or " 7 " , well your every key stroke on and off line are recorded and sent to the NSA ! .
Do you use a cell phone ?
Same thing .
You are tapped , bugged , tracked , labeled and directed every minute of every day .
Google tracking is the least of your worries .
Now , pull the blinders over your eyes , claim this as the rambling of a paranoid fool and go back to sleep !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You think you have any privacy?
Are you using Windows Vista or "7", well your every key stroke on and off line are recorded and sent to the NSA!.
Do you use a cell phone?
Same thing.
You are tapped, bugged, tracked, labeled and directed every minute of every day.
Google tracking is the least of your worries.
Now, pull the blinders over your eyes, claim this as the rambling of a paranoid fool and go back to sleep!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424786</id>
	<title>another relevant concern being indirect usage</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260696900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/11/24/2210224/Google-Analytics-May-Be-Illegal-In-Germany?art\_pos=1</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //yro.slashdot.org/story/09/11/24/2210224/Google-Analytics-May-Be-Illegal-In-Germany ? art \ _pos = 1</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/11/24/2210224/Google-Analytics-May-Be-Illegal-In-Germany?art\_pos=1</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425244</id>
	<title>Your only real choice: Don't use Google Products</title>
	<author>atrimtab</author>
	<datestamp>1260700020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This makes it really clear.</p><p>The Google Toilet Service:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrontojPWEE" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrontojPWEE</a> [youtube.com]</p><p>If you want privacy don't use services or purchase anything on the Internet.<br>Never buy anything online.<br>Never use a service that requires that you get an account.<br>Even then use anonymizing techniques or services like Tor for those few sites that you do visit via random WiFi connections you find by driving randomly around after purging all the cookies in the browser you are using.</p><p>But while you are doing that make sure that you always pay for everything in cash.<br>Do not use a library card.<br>Avoid all areas that use video surveillance.<br>Do not get healthcare or have a medical record.</p><p>You really don't have any privacy anywhere anymore. If the info is on a network connected computer somewhere, there is someone you have not authorized that can get access to it and copy it.   There may be laws against that, but they won't be enforced... because its way too much effort.</p><p>Before networked computers held info of all kinds there was the illusion of privacy, but even then it didn't exist. It was just harder to get at the data.</p><p>The internet is a public forum. The only privacy that exists is what you set up with other parties BEFORE you use the Internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This makes it really clear.The Google Toilet Service : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = hrontojPWEE [ youtube.com ] If you want privacy do n't use services or purchase anything on the Internet.Never buy anything online.Never use a service that requires that you get an account.Even then use anonymizing techniques or services like Tor for those few sites that you do visit via random WiFi connections you find by driving randomly around after purging all the cookies in the browser you are using.But while you are doing that make sure that you always pay for everything in cash.Do not use a library card.Avoid all areas that use video surveillance.Do not get healthcare or have a medical record.You really do n't have any privacy anywhere anymore .
If the info is on a network connected computer somewhere , there is someone you have not authorized that can get access to it and copy it .
There may be laws against that , but they wo n't be enforced... because its way too much effort.Before networked computers held info of all kinds there was the illusion of privacy , but even then it did n't exist .
It was just harder to get at the data.The internet is a public forum .
The only privacy that exists is what you set up with other parties BEFORE you use the Internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This makes it really clear.The Google Toilet Service:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrontojPWEE [youtube.com]If you want privacy don't use services or purchase anything on the Internet.Never buy anything online.Never use a service that requires that you get an account.Even then use anonymizing techniques or services like Tor for those few sites that you do visit via random WiFi connections you find by driving randomly around after purging all the cookies in the browser you are using.But while you are doing that make sure that you always pay for everything in cash.Do not use a library card.Avoid all areas that use video surveillance.Do not get healthcare or have a medical record.You really don't have any privacy anywhere anymore.
If the info is on a network connected computer somewhere, there is someone you have not authorized that can get access to it and copy it.
There may be laws against that, but they won't be enforced... because its way too much effort.Before networked computers held info of all kinds there was the illusion of privacy, but even then it didn't exist.
It was just harder to get at the data.The internet is a public forum.
The only privacy that exists is what you set up with other parties BEFORE you use the Internet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30434326</id>
	<title>Use Ixquick</title>
	<author>nsteinme</author>
	<datestamp>1260822180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.ixquick.com/eng/protect-privacy.html" title="ixquick.com" rel="nofollow">Ixquick</a> [ixquick.com] deletes logged data within 48 hours and does not record your IP address.
<br> <br>
I also found this <a href="http://news.cnet.com/2100-1029\_3-6202068.html" title="cnet.com" rel="nofollow">link</a> [cnet.com] interesting (from 2007).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ixquick [ ixquick.com ] deletes logged data within 48 hours and does not record your IP address .
I also found this link [ cnet.com ] interesting ( from 2007 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ixquick [ixquick.com] deletes logged data within 48 hours and does not record your IP address.
I also found this link [cnet.com] interesting (from 2007).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428562</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260734040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The argument also breaks down when you consider that the definition of "something to hide" may change with the social and political environment. All those peaceful protests you attend and put on facebook may land you in a concentration camp if your government turns nazi.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The argument also breaks down when you consider that the definition of " something to hide " may change with the social and political environment .
All those peaceful protests you attend and put on facebook may land you in a concentration camp if your government turns nazi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The argument also breaks down when you consider that the definition of "something to hide" may change with the social and political environment.
All those peaceful protests you attend and put on facebook may land you in a concentration camp if your government turns nazi.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425090</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425810</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260704580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll live a relaxed and happy life until I have the misfortune of Dr. Horrible finally taking over the world, then I will become paranoid and try to hide. Not the other way around</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll live a relaxed and happy life until I have the misfortune of Dr. Horrible finally taking over the world , then I will become paranoid and try to hide .
Not the other way around</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll live a relaxed and happy life until I have the misfortune of Dr. Horrible finally taking over the world, then I will become paranoid and try to hide.
Not the other way around</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424964</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425470</id>
	<title>Proxies won't help</title>
	<author>fph il quozientatore</author>
	<datestamp>1260701760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Proxies, Adblock plus, deleting cookies and such in fact do very little.
It is easy to match you up to your profile by considering only your browser version, operating system, browsing habits (do you use google.com, google.somethingelse, the Google search in the default Firefox homepage, or the Firefox google search bar? Do you click on "search" or press enter? Do you block googleanalytics via Adblock plus? Which IP addresses do you browse/proxy from? How did you set the web page localization preferences?). Remember, it only takes 33 yes-no bits of information to uniquely identify you among all human beings. How many are you already handing over to dear Google?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Proxies , Adblock plus , deleting cookies and such in fact do very little .
It is easy to match you up to your profile by considering only your browser version , operating system , browsing habits ( do you use google.com , google.somethingelse , the Google search in the default Firefox homepage , or the Firefox google search bar ?
Do you click on " search " or press enter ?
Do you block googleanalytics via Adblock plus ?
Which IP addresses do you browse/proxy from ?
How did you set the web page localization preferences ? ) .
Remember , it only takes 33 yes-no bits of information to uniquely identify you among all human beings .
How many are you already handing over to dear Google ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Proxies, Adblock plus, deleting cookies and such in fact do very little.
It is easy to match you up to your profile by considering only your browser version, operating system, browsing habits (do you use google.com, google.somethingelse, the Google search in the default Firefox homepage, or the Firefox google search bar?
Do you click on "search" or press enter?
Do you block googleanalytics via Adblock plus?
Which IP addresses do you browse/proxy from?
How did you set the web page localization preferences?).
Remember, it only takes 33 yes-no bits of information to uniquely identify you among all human beings.
How many are you already handing over to dear Google?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426026</id>
	<title>"Who Cares?" is an old argument</title>
	<author>bihoy</author>
	<datestamp>1260706380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
As mentioned in John Dvorak's <a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/story/eric-schmidt-google-and-privacy-2009-12-11" title="marketwatch.com">Second Opinion</a> [marketwatch.com] this excerpt sums it up quite well: </p><p><div class="quote"><p>Our privacy rights have been eroding for years and just accelerated with the Bush administration. President Barack Obama has been on board since day one.
</p><p>
What sort of society wants to tap the phone calls of all its citizens? What sort of society wants to rifle through your personal belongings after busting into your house? These notions are promoted on TV with shows like "24" and other cop shows, where warrantless searches are common. (Even the actual mechanisms are revealed: "Did you hear a scream for help in there?" "YES! Let's bust in.")</p></div><p>
It ironic Eric Schmidt seems to feel differently about his own personal information that that of others.
</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Schmidt, it should be noted, had a few personal details of his life revealed a few years ago by CNet in an exercise to show the power of Google's<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/quotes/comstock/15*!goog/quotes/nls/goog  (GOOG  590.51, -0.99, -0.17\%) search engine. Schmidt was incensed that, for instance, his home address was unearthed, and the company then banned CNet from its press events. Read the CNet article at issue.
</p><p>
Using Schmidt's logic, one has to ask: Why did he care if he wasn't doing anything wrong?</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As mentioned in John Dvorak 's Second Opinion [ marketwatch.com ] this excerpt sums it up quite well : Our privacy rights have been eroding for years and just accelerated with the Bush administration .
President Barack Obama has been on board since day one .
What sort of society wants to tap the phone calls of all its citizens ?
What sort of society wants to rifle through your personal belongings after busting into your house ?
These notions are promoted on TV with shows like " 24 " and other cop shows , where warrantless searches are common .
( Even the actual mechanisms are revealed : " Did you hear a scream for help in there ?
" " YES !
Let 's bust in .
" ) It ironic Eric Schmidt seems to feel differently about his own personal information that that of others .
Schmidt , it should be noted , had a few personal details of his life revealed a few years ago by CNet in an exercise to show the power of Google 's /quotes/comstock/15 * ! goog/quotes/nls/goog ( GOOG 590.51 , -0.99 , -0.17 \ % ) search engine .
Schmidt was incensed that , for instance , his home address was unearthed , and the company then banned CNet from its press events .
Read the CNet article at issue .
Using Schmidt 's logic , one has to ask : Why did he care if he was n't doing anything wrong ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
As mentioned in John Dvorak's Second Opinion [marketwatch.com] this excerpt sums it up quite well: Our privacy rights have been eroding for years and just accelerated with the Bush administration.
President Barack Obama has been on board since day one.
What sort of society wants to tap the phone calls of all its citizens?
What sort of society wants to rifle through your personal belongings after busting into your house?
These notions are promoted on TV with shows like "24" and other cop shows, where warrantless searches are common.
(Even the actual mechanisms are revealed: "Did you hear a scream for help in there?
" "YES!
Let's bust in.
")
It ironic Eric Schmidt seems to feel differently about his own personal information that that of others.
Schmidt, it should be noted, had a few personal details of his life revealed a few years ago by CNet in an exercise to show the power of Google's /quotes/comstock/15*!goog/quotes/nls/goog  (GOOG  590.51, -0.99, -0.17\%) search engine.
Schmidt was incensed that, for instance, his home address was unearthed, and the company then banned CNet from its press events.
Read the CNet article at issue.
Using Schmidt's logic, one has to ask: Why did he care if he wasn't doing anything wrong?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428642</id>
	<title>Privacy is Dead - Get Over It</title>
	<author>zoeblade</author>
	<datestamp>1260822180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How do you keep your privacy while using Google?  <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3079242748023143842" title="google.com">You don't.</a> [google.com] </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How do you keep your privacy while using Google ?
You do n't .
[ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do you keep your privacy while using Google?
You don't.
[google.com] </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425494</id>
	<title>The issue is what will the data be used for.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260701880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Many other's provide data in the non web world of your purchases and other non web transactions. These affect credit scores insurance rates medical and car. So providing information to data mining companies such as google will have detrimental impacts of your life in the future that you do not even know about. There is a large analytical group of companies that look for information that will provide incite as to what your future decisions may be. For example looking for car repair may increase your car insurance automatically. Searching for information about safe driving for teenagers may also prompt a premium increase just to of set any future expected claims. This is a path that will be detrimental not helpful to you. It's all about companies better understanding the risk and the sonner they can charge you more the better they manage their risk. I see no benefit at all to me so I do not use google I use Ixquick for my search engine. Good luck with that gmail thing!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Many other 's provide data in the non web world of your purchases and other non web transactions .
These affect credit scores insurance rates medical and car .
So providing information to data mining companies such as google will have detrimental impacts of your life in the future that you do not even know about .
There is a large analytical group of companies that look for information that will provide incite as to what your future decisions may be .
For example looking for car repair may increase your car insurance automatically .
Searching for information about safe driving for teenagers may also prompt a premium increase just to of set any future expected claims .
This is a path that will be detrimental not helpful to you .
It 's all about companies better understanding the risk and the sonner they can charge you more the better they manage their risk .
I see no benefit at all to me so I do not use google I use Ixquick for my search engine .
Good luck with that gmail thing !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many other's provide data in the non web world of your purchases and other non web transactions.
These affect credit scores insurance rates medical and car.
So providing information to data mining companies such as google will have detrimental impacts of your life in the future that you do not even know about.
There is a large analytical group of companies that look for information that will provide incite as to what your future decisions may be.
For example looking for car repair may increase your car insurance automatically.
Searching for information about safe driving for teenagers may also prompt a premium increase just to of set any future expected claims.
This is a path that will be detrimental not helpful to you.
It's all about companies better understanding the risk and the sonner they can charge you more the better they manage their risk.
I see no benefit at all to me so I do not use google I use Ixquick for my search engine.
Good luck with that gmail thing!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30467874</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>psithurism</author>
	<datestamp>1259679240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hmmm, true: to google, "the stuff I don't want my boss to know" is blip in a database, but to my boss, it would be a gold mine. There are tons of mundane reasons I don't want people to know things about me. <br> <br>Here are a couple:<br>My girlfriend raided my Google search history and I never knew the mundane crap that could be deemed offensive, then of course there was that "sex with staplers" search. My particular boss doesn't care if I Google for "sex with staplers" mainly because my company blocks 'offensive' sights, but if I had one that did, and he raided my search history?<br>My uncle flip flops on using email because he is an expert witness, and he informs me that this is due to the fact that his email may be searched by the opposition for various reasons; say there is a debate with me about the flaws of the jury system or his recent class on "How to look intelligent and believable to Texans." Well I just cost his clients a lawsuit when the jury hears some quotes from that.<br> <br>I just feel uncomfortable that out there in a database, there may be records of everything I wanted to know for the past few years that I can not control access to.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm , true : to google , " the stuff I do n't want my boss to know " is blip in a database , but to my boss , it would be a gold mine .
There are tons of mundane reasons I do n't want people to know things about me .
Here are a couple : My girlfriend raided my Google search history and I never knew the mundane crap that could be deemed offensive , then of course there was that " sex with staplers " search .
My particular boss does n't care if I Google for " sex with staplers " mainly because my company blocks 'offensive ' sights , but if I had one that did , and he raided my search history ? My uncle flip flops on using email because he is an expert witness , and he informs me that this is due to the fact that his email may be searched by the opposition for various reasons ; say there is a debate with me about the flaws of the jury system or his recent class on " How to look intelligent and believable to Texans .
" Well I just cost his clients a lawsuit when the jury hears some quotes from that .
I just feel uncomfortable that out there in a database , there may be records of everything I wanted to know for the past few years that I can not control access to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm, true: to google, "the stuff I don't want my boss to know" is blip in a database, but to my boss, it would be a gold mine.
There are tons of mundane reasons I don't want people to know things about me.
Here are a couple:My girlfriend raided my Google search history and I never knew the mundane crap that could be deemed offensive, then of course there was that "sex with staplers" search.
My particular boss doesn't care if I Google for "sex with staplers" mainly because my company blocks 'offensive' sights, but if I had one that did, and he raided my search history?My uncle flip flops on using email because he is an expert witness, and he informs me that this is due to the fact that his email may be searched by the opposition for various reasons; say there is a debate with me about the flaws of the jury system or his recent class on "How to look intelligent and believable to Texans.
" Well I just cost his clients a lawsuit when the jury hears some quotes from that.
I just feel uncomfortable that out there in a database, there may be records of everything I wanted to know for the past few years that I can not control access to.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426894</id>
	<title>Re:Here's what I do...</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1260714360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/9727" title="mozilla.org" rel="nofollow">RequestPolicy?</a> [mozilla.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No RequestPolicy ?
[ mozilla.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No RequestPolicy?
[mozilla.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425542</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426986</id>
	<title>http://www.scroogle.org/</title>
	<author>GeekFreak</author>
	<datestamp>1260715080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Queries Google using random IPs. Your IP and queries deleted in 48 hours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Queries Google using random IPs .
Your IP and queries deleted in 48 hours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Queries Google using random IPs.
Your IP and queries deleted in 48 hours.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424964</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260697920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They arn't publishing your search history in the newspaper<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. </p></div><p>They are keeping it, and sharing it with secretive agencies. You may think you have nothing to hide, but you don't know which way the political wind will blow in the future. Maybe you'll be a dissident to those agencies later on...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They ar n't publishing your search history in the newspaper .. They are keeping it , and sharing it with secretive agencies .
You may think you have nothing to hide , but you do n't know which way the political wind will blow in the future .
Maybe you 'll be a dissident to those agencies later on.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They arn't publishing your search history in the newspaper .. They are keeping it, and sharing it with secretive agencies.
You may think you have nothing to hide, but you don't know which way the political wind will blow in the future.
Maybe you'll be a dissident to those agencies later on...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426902</id>
	<title>https://us2.ixquick.com/eng/</title>
	<author>Bragador</author>
	<datestamp>1260714420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Alternatively, you can support <a href="https://us2.ixquick.com/eng/" title="ixquick.com">https://us2.ixquick.com/eng/</a> [ixquick.com] which has fairly acceptable search results and they do not keep any logs of searches and IP addresses.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Alternatively , you can support https : //us2.ixquick.com/eng/ [ ixquick.com ] which has fairly acceptable search results and they do not keep any logs of searches and IP addresses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alternatively, you can support https://us2.ixquick.com/eng/ [ixquick.com] which has fairly acceptable search results and they do not keep any logs of searches and IP addresses.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425378</id>
	<title>delusions of importance</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260700980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you can all get over yourselves, nobody gives a shit about you or the "private" details of your life.  the list of people that the "Man" is profiling does not include you, your mother, or your mother's basement where you currently live.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you can all get over yourselves , nobody gives a shit about you or the " private " details of your life .
the list of people that the " Man " is profiling does not include you , your mother , or your mother 's basement where you currently live .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you can all get over yourselves, nobody gives a shit about you or the "private" details of your life.
the list of people that the "Man" is profiling does not include you, your mother, or your mother's basement where you currently live.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430568</id>
	<title>Re:Not exactly what you want, but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260804120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good one.</p><p>All kidding aside, the two lines:</p><p>doubleclick.net 127.0.0.1<br>google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1</p><p>are good to have in your hosts file</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good one.All kidding aside , the two lines : doubleclick.net 127.0.0.1google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1are good to have in your hosts file</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good one.All kidding aside, the two lines:doubleclick.net 127.0.0.1google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1are good to have in your hosts file</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424830</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426270</id>
	<title>Easy as pie in 3 firefox extensions</title>
	<author>fifirebel</author>
	<datestamp>1260708660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Install the following:
<ul>
<li> <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2497" title="mozilla.org">CookieSafe</a> [mozilla.org]</li>
<li> <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6623" title="mozilla.org">BetterPrivacy</a> [mozilla.org]</li>
<li> <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3173" title="mozilla.org">TrackMeNot</a> [mozilla.org]</li>
</ul><p>
Then configure CookieSafe to "Deny Cookies Globally" (you can easily make exceptions for some sites).  BetterPrivacy and TrackMeNot come with suitable defaults.

</p><p>With this set-up, no cookies will be created.  DOM Storage (super-cookies) and flash cookies will be wiped whenever you close your browser.  And you will gently spam Google and other search engines with random searches, just in case they do tracking by IP addresses.

</p><p>You may also want to throw in:
</p><ul>
<li>FlashBlock and AdBlockPlus, to make the web more... uh... readable.</li>
<li>NoScript, if you're paranoid.</li>
</ul></htmltext>
<tokenext>Install the following : CookieSafe [ mozilla.org ] BetterPrivacy [ mozilla.org ] TrackMeNot [ mozilla.org ] Then configure CookieSafe to " Deny Cookies Globally " ( you can easily make exceptions for some sites ) .
BetterPrivacy and TrackMeNot come with suitable defaults .
With this set-up , no cookies will be created .
DOM Storage ( super-cookies ) and flash cookies will be wiped whenever you close your browser .
And you will gently spam Google and other search engines with random searches , just in case they do tracking by IP addresses .
You may also want to throw in : FlashBlock and AdBlockPlus , to make the web more... uh... readable .
NoScript , if you 're paranoid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Install the following:

 CookieSafe [mozilla.org]
 BetterPrivacy [mozilla.org]
 TrackMeNot [mozilla.org]

Then configure CookieSafe to "Deny Cookies Globally" (you can easily make exceptions for some sites).
BetterPrivacy and TrackMeNot come with suitable defaults.
With this set-up, no cookies will be created.
DOM Storage (super-cookies) and flash cookies will be wiped whenever you close your browser.
And you will gently spam Google and other search engines with random searches, just in case they do tracking by IP addresses.
You may also want to throw in:

FlashBlock and AdBlockPlus, to make the web more... uh... readable.
NoScript, if you're paranoid.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425180</id>
	<title>Could be the wrong question</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1260699540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You could not use any of their services (mail, picasa, maps, docs, etc), and block their ip range at your firewall, and use alternative search engines. But you want that?

Not only you throw away some good services, for alternatives that could be inferior. They could care even less about your privacy (to put a couple of examples, noone complained a lot about how Yahoo could violate their privacy, till their <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/12/06/1724208/Lawful-Spying-Price-Lists-" title="slashdot.org">price list</a> [slashdot.org] was published, and even in their latest version <a href="http://news.softpedia.com/news/30-Windows-7-Features-Phone-Home-to-Microsoft-129592.shtml" title="softpedia.com">Windows 7 phones home</a> [softpedia.com], something that is not even internet based to be forced to do so).

<p> In the other hand, your "privacy" could be the line that separates a world of noise and spam to the real info you need. And Google services, specially when used in integrated form, could be pretty practical</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could not use any of their services ( mail , picasa , maps , docs , etc ) , and block their ip range at your firewall , and use alternative search engines .
But you want that ?
Not only you throw away some good services , for alternatives that could be inferior .
They could care even less about your privacy ( to put a couple of examples , noone complained a lot about how Yahoo could violate their privacy , till their price list [ slashdot.org ] was published , and even in their latest version Windows 7 phones home [ softpedia.com ] , something that is not even internet based to be forced to do so ) .
In the other hand , your " privacy " could be the line that separates a world of noise and spam to the real info you need .
And Google services , specially when used in integrated form , could be pretty practical</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could not use any of their services (mail, picasa, maps, docs, etc), and block their ip range at your firewall, and use alternative search engines.
But you want that?
Not only you throw away some good services, for alternatives that could be inferior.
They could care even less about your privacy (to put a couple of examples, noone complained a lot about how Yahoo could violate their privacy, till their price list [slashdot.org] was published, and even in their latest version Windows 7 phones home [softpedia.com], something that is not even internet based to be forced to do so).
In the other hand, your "privacy" could be the line that separates a world of noise and spam to the real info you need.
And Google services, specially when used in integrated form, could be pretty practical</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426146</id>
	<title>Changing your online habits is the best bet.</title>
	<author>TxRv</author>
	<datestamp>1260707400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you're searching something sensitive, use yauba.com or another anonymous search engine. Use Tor to hide your trail. Regularly delete cookies you don't need to keep. Use a different email provider if you are sending sensitive information and use IRC private channels for chatting. In Chrome, uncheck the box that says "send usage statistics" and disable web history at www.google.com/history/ and opt-out of the advertising tracing cookie. If privacy is really what you're most worried about, I'd be more concerned about your ISP, since they can see all your packets at the start point.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're searching something sensitive , use yauba.com or another anonymous search engine .
Use Tor to hide your trail .
Regularly delete cookies you do n't need to keep .
Use a different email provider if you are sending sensitive information and use IRC private channels for chatting .
In Chrome , uncheck the box that says " send usage statistics " and disable web history at www.google.com/history/ and opt-out of the advertising tracing cookie .
If privacy is really what you 're most worried about , I 'd be more concerned about your ISP , since they can see all your packets at the start point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're searching something sensitive, use yauba.com or another anonymous search engine.
Use Tor to hide your trail.
Regularly delete cookies you don't need to keep.
Use a different email provider if you are sending sensitive information and use IRC private channels for chatting.
In Chrome, uncheck the box that says "send usage statistics" and disable web history at www.google.com/history/ and opt-out of the advertising tracing cookie.
If privacy is really what you're most worried about, I'd be more concerned about your ISP, since they can see all your packets at the start point.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425090</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1260698940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>only people with something to hide would care about privacy</p></div><p>An entirely correct position. The place where the argument breaks down is that there's nothing wrong with having something to hide. For example, I would very much prefer it if my Slashdot password remains a secret, and there's nothing wrong with that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>only people with something to hide would care about privacyAn entirely correct position .
The place where the argument breaks down is that there 's nothing wrong with having something to hide .
For example , I would very much prefer it if my Slashdot password remains a secret , and there 's nothing wrong with that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>only people with something to hide would care about privacyAn entirely correct position.
The place where the argument breaks down is that there's nothing wrong with having something to hide.
For example, I would very much prefer it if my Slashdot password remains a secret, and there's nothing wrong with that.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424982</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430814</id>
	<title>SRWare Iron</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260805260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It won't solve everything, but you might want to try SRWare's Iron browser instead of Chrome.  It's based on Chromium but it has Chrome's privacy-related functions removed - it doesn't contact Google about everything you do.  It also has an adblocker.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It wo n't solve everything , but you might want to try SRWare 's Iron browser instead of Chrome .
It 's based on Chromium but it has Chrome 's privacy-related functions removed - it does n't contact Google about everything you do .
It also has an adblocker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It won't solve everything, but you might want to try SRWare's Iron browser instead of Chrome.
It's based on Chromium but it has Chrome's privacy-related functions removed - it doesn't contact Google about everything you do.
It also has an adblocker.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426370</id>
	<title>How do I have my cake and eat it too?</title>
	<author>Hecatonchires</author>
	<datestamp>1260709800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm paralysed by choice.  I want to use all these products and services this company offers, but they don't want money, they just want to make a record when I use them.  Please help.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm paralysed by choice .
I want to use all these products and services this company offers , but they do n't want money , they just want to make a record when I use them .
Please help .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm paralysed by choice.
I want to use all these products and services this company offers, but they don't want money, they just want to make a record when I use them.
Please help.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425190</id>
	<title>Not a solution, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260699660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...a web developer "friend" of mine recently logged into a client's Google account from his home workstation to set up a Gcalendar for their site.  Unfortunately, and I...er, he should have known better, he forgot to log out after completing the task.  He was then unpleasantly surprised to go in a day or two later and find his entire search history for that period (searches, images, etc.) logged and displayed right there in *the client's* Google account, as they had enabled Google Search History for their account.</p><p>Lesson learned.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...a web developer " friend " of mine recently logged into a client 's Google account from his home workstation to set up a Gcalendar for their site .
Unfortunately , and I...er , he should have known better , he forgot to log out after completing the task .
He was then unpleasantly surprised to go in a day or two later and find his entire search history for that period ( searches , images , etc .
) logged and displayed right there in * the client 's * Google account , as they had enabled Google Search History for their account.Lesson learned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...a web developer "friend" of mine recently logged into a client's Google account from his home workstation to set up a Gcalendar for their site.
Unfortunately, and I...er, he should have known better, he forgot to log out after completing the task.
He was then unpleasantly surprised to go in a day or two later and find his entire search history for that period (searches, images, etc.
) logged and displayed right there in *the client's* Google account, as they had enabled Google Search History for their account.Lesson learned.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430402</id>
	<title>Re:Here's what I do...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260802860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or, rather than using Tor, you can use Scroogle as search engine: <a href="https://ssl.scroogle.org/" title="scroogle.org" rel="nofollow">https://ssl.scroogle.org/</a> [scroogle.org].</p><p>SSL + First 100 Google search results + no direct contact with Google.</p><p>Google detects Tor exit nodes and often blocks you from use. And Tor is slow.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or , rather than using Tor , you can use Scroogle as search engine : https : //ssl.scroogle.org/ [ scroogle.org ] .SSL + First 100 Google search results + no direct contact with Google.Google detects Tor exit nodes and often blocks you from use .
And Tor is slow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or, rather than using Tor, you can use Scroogle as search engine: https://ssl.scroogle.org/ [scroogle.org].SSL + First 100 Google search results + no direct contact with Google.Google detects Tor exit nodes and often blocks you from use.
And Tor is slow.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425542</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428590</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260820860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is like a steer asking, "how can I keep getting this free food and board without being taken to the slaughter house later?"</p><p>To Google, you are the product.  They are selling advertising.  More specifically, they are selling your attention to marketers.  Giving you privacy is contradictory to the entire purpose of their existence.  They give you nice, fast, free stuff to keep you hooked in to their services and to keep collecting more data so that they can sell more advertising.</p><p>There is no privacy using Google services.  There never will be.  They will keep encroaching into your private info as far as you let them.</p></div><p>if you know what you are doing then you can use google and keep your privacy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is like a steer asking , " how can I keep getting this free food and board without being taken to the slaughter house later ?
" To Google , you are the product .
They are selling advertising .
More specifically , they are selling your attention to marketers .
Giving you privacy is contradictory to the entire purpose of their existence .
They give you nice , fast , free stuff to keep you hooked in to their services and to keep collecting more data so that they can sell more advertising.There is no privacy using Google services .
There never will be .
They will keep encroaching into your private info as far as you let them.if you know what you are doing then you can use google and keep your privacy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is like a steer asking, "how can I keep getting this free food and board without being taken to the slaughter house later?
"To Google, you are the product.
They are selling advertising.
More specifically, they are selling your attention to marketers.
Giving you privacy is contradictory to the entire purpose of their existence.
They give you nice, fast, free stuff to keep you hooked in to their services and to keep collecting more data so that they can sell more advertising.There is no privacy using Google services.
There never will be.
They will keep encroaching into your private info as far as you let them.if you know what you are doing then you can use google and keep your privacy.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424886</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30445002</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>FreakyGreenLeaky</author>
	<datestamp>1260896280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Naivet&#233; and complacency seem to be the norm nowadays, no offence.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Naivet   and complacency seem to be the norm nowadays , no offence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Naiveté and complacency seem to be the norm nowadays, no offence.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425456</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>antdude</author>
	<datestamp>1260701640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fire him and get another butler! Maybe hire <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred\_Pennyworth" title="wikipedia.org">Alfred Pennyworth</a> [wikipedia.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fire him and get another butler !
Maybe hire Alfred Pennyworth [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fire him and get another butler!
Maybe hire Alfred Pennyworth [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425442</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260701460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google may not be doing anything malicious with the data it's collecting, but I worry about the day when someone pwns google. Inevitably, someone will breach their security and then everything you've 'trusted' google with is out in the open.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google may not be doing anything malicious with the data it 's collecting , but I worry about the day when someone pwns google .
Inevitably , someone will breach their security and then everything you 've 'trusted ' google with is out in the open .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google may not be doing anything malicious with the data it's collecting, but I worry about the day when someone pwns google.
Inevitably, someone will breach their security and then everything you've 'trusted' google with is out in the open.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426750</id>
	<title>Re:What are the alternatives?</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1260713400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>More importantly, what is a good alternative for Google News for searching old usenet postings? Apart from privacy, their interface is just shitty (and them mixing Usenet with their own proprietary service doesn't make things better).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>More importantly , what is a good alternative for Google News for searching old usenet postings ?
Apart from privacy , their interface is just shitty ( and them mixing Usenet with their own proprietary service does n't make things better ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More importantly, what is a good alternative for Google News for searching old usenet postings?
Apart from privacy, their interface is just shitty (and them mixing Usenet with their own proprietary service doesn't make things better).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425254</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424820</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260697080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Humans aren't random. Random searches can be separated from human searches with the same tools that Google uses to categorize other information.</p><p>If you're serious about making your searches anonymous, first turn off Javascript and plugins, then use TOR. Googling is a low-bandwidth activity, so TOR's performance isn't that much of a nuisance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Humans are n't random .
Random searches can be separated from human searches with the same tools that Google uses to categorize other information.If you 're serious about making your searches anonymous , first turn off Javascript and plugins , then use TOR .
Googling is a low-bandwidth activity , so TOR 's performance is n't that much of a nuisance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Humans aren't random.
Random searches can be separated from human searches with the same tools that Google uses to categorize other information.If you're serious about making your searches anonymous, first turn off Javascript and plugins, then use TOR.
Googling is a low-bandwidth activity, so TOR's performance isn't that much of a nuisance.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428012</id>
	<title>You cannot escaped Google.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260725940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>YOu don't have to use Google services for them to track you.  You can be tracked indirectly.  For example, if CNN web site embeds Google Analytic and you visit it, then Google and their Advertisers know you were there.  Okay, you think that Google only knows your IP address right?  You think that that you're safe.  No big deal!  Wrong.  Let says later on that day, you sign into Gmail.  There!  Google knows who you are.</p><p>If you're naughty and go to some porn sites that have Google Analytic or Google Ads, you are being watched.</p><p>The best way to avoid being tracked, don't use any of Google services or softwares, e.g. Chrome, Android, etc. or you can just disable javascript feature in your web browser.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>YOu do n't have to use Google services for them to track you .
You can be tracked indirectly .
For example , if CNN web site embeds Google Analytic and you visit it , then Google and their Advertisers know you were there .
Okay , you think that Google only knows your IP address right ?
You think that that you 're safe .
No big deal !
Wrong. Let says later on that day , you sign into Gmail .
There ! Google knows who you are.If you 're naughty and go to some porn sites that have Google Analytic or Google Ads , you are being watched.The best way to avoid being tracked , do n't use any of Google services or softwares , e.g .
Chrome , Android , etc .
or you can just disable javascript feature in your web browser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>YOu don't have to use Google services for them to track you.
You can be tracked indirectly.
For example, if CNN web site embeds Google Analytic and you visit it, then Google and their Advertisers know you were there.
Okay, you think that Google only knows your IP address right?
You think that that you're safe.
No big deal!
Wrong.  Let says later on that day, you sign into Gmail.
There!  Google knows who you are.If you're naughty and go to some porn sites that have Google Analytic or Google Ads, you are being watched.The best way to avoid being tracked, don't use any of Google services or softwares, e.g.
Chrome, Android, etc.
or you can just disable javascript feature in your web browser.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425130</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260699180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>There was an old russian KGB adage which went something like "everyone has committed a crime, it's about who we decide to prosecute".</htmltext>
<tokenext>There was an old russian KGB adage which went something like " everyone has committed a crime , it 's about who we decide to prosecute " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There was an old russian KGB adage which went something like "everyone has committed a crime, it's about who we decide to prosecute".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426786</id>
	<title>dont use google</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260713700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>use bookmarks</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>use bookmarks</tokentext>
<sentencetext>use bookmarks</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430280</id>
	<title>Use scroogle for search</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260802020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google Scroogle then paste in the scroogle search terms into your browser. Works with FF, Opera, IE, and can be adapted I reckon to other browsers. Scroogle is designed to anonymise use of google</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google Scroogle then paste in the scroogle search terms into your browser .
Works with FF , Opera , IE , and can be adapted I reckon to other browsers .
Scroogle is designed to anonymise use of google</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google Scroogle then paste in the scroogle search terms into your browser.
Works with FF, Opera, IE, and can be adapted I reckon to other browsers.
Scroogle is designed to anonymise use of google</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424844</id>
	<title>TANSTAAFL</title>
	<author>osu-neko</author>
	<datestamp>1260697260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Slashdotters: how do I stay anonymous to Google while using their services?</p></div><p>TANSTAAFL</p><p>If you don't want to pay the price for using their services, don't use their services.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdotters : how do I stay anonymous to Google while using their services ? TANSTAAFLIf you do n't want to pay the price for using their services , do n't use their services .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdotters: how do I stay anonymous to Google while using their services?TANSTAAFLIf you don't want to pay the price for using their services, don't use their services.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425300</id>
	<title>Other google-powered search sites: Blackle, Znout</title>
	<author>beatsme</author>
	<datestamp>1260700440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can also use other search engine proxies, like <a href="http://www.blackle.com/" title="blackle.com" rel="nofollow">Blackle</a> [blackle.com] or <a href="http://znout.org/google.php?cc=ca&amp;q=" title="znout.org" rel="nofollow">Znout</a> [znout.org] where the data that is stored is not stored on Google servers, and is pruned regularly rather than stored indefinitely.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can also use other search engine proxies , like Blackle [ blackle.com ] or Znout [ znout.org ] where the data that is stored is not stored on Google servers , and is pruned regularly rather than stored indefinitely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can also use other search engine proxies, like Blackle [blackle.com] or Znout [znout.org] where the data that is stored is not stored on Google servers, and is pruned regularly rather than stored indefinitely.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424830</id>
	<title>Not exactly what you want, but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260697140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p># cat &gt;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/etc/hosts<br>&gt; google.com 127.0.0.1<br>&gt; doubleclick.net 127.0.0.1<br>&gt; youtube.com 127.0.0.1<br>&gt; google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1<br>&gt; #<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>&gt; EOF</p></htmltext>
<tokenext># cat &gt; /etc/hosts &gt; google.com 127.0.0.1 &gt; doubleclick.net 127.0.0.1 &gt; youtube.com 127.0.0.1 &gt; google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1 &gt; # ... &gt; EOF</tokentext>
<sentencetext># cat &gt; /etc/hosts&gt; google.com 127.0.0.1&gt; doubleclick.net 127.0.0.1&gt; youtube.com 127.0.0.1&gt; google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1&gt; # ...&gt; EOF</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430222</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Danathar</author>
	<datestamp>1260801540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you are TRUELY paranoid, then use somebody else's computer when you do your searches.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you are TRUELY paranoid , then use somebody else 's computer when you do your searches .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you are TRUELY paranoid, then use somebody else's computer when you do your searches.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426728</id>
	<title>Re:Not exactly what you want, but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260713100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>pff tor + neighbours wlan + random macaddress == good luck fuckers!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>pff tor + neighbours wlan + random macaddress = = good luck fuckers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>pff tor + neighbours wlan + random macaddress == good luck fuckers!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424830</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30427168</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260716580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Soviet Russia, we search you and you provide the results!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Soviet Russia , we search you and you provide the results !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Soviet Russia, we search you and you provide the results!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425130</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425872</id>
	<title>Re:What's the big deal?</title>
	<author>misexistentialist</author>
	<datestamp>1260705180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't see what big deal is with someone knowing your non-unique bodily stats when you don't mind them knowing your unique search history. Google probably knows your height/weight anyway, since they know what size clothes you buy, and by analyzing pictures could know it more exactly than you do. (Don't know why your CC doesn't just ask for you license number, though, since most people's weight fluctuates a lot. Apparently they intend to be creepy.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see what big deal is with someone knowing your non-unique bodily stats when you do n't mind them knowing your unique search history .
Google probably knows your height/weight anyway , since they know what size clothes you buy , and by analyzing pictures could know it more exactly than you do .
( Do n't know why your CC does n't just ask for you license number , though , since most people 's weight fluctuates a lot .
Apparently they intend to be creepy .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see what big deal is with someone knowing your non-unique bodily stats when you don't mind them knowing your unique search history.
Google probably knows your height/weight anyway, since they know what size clothes you buy, and by analyzing pictures could know it more exactly than you do.
(Don't know why your CC doesn't just ask for you license number, though, since most people's weight fluctuates a lot.
Apparently they intend to be creepy.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424808</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425336</id>
	<title>my suggestion</title>
	<author>gEvil (beta)</author>
	<datestamp>1260700800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hope this has already been suggested in the 120-something posts so far, but if not, here's my simplistic suggestion. Go ahead and use Chrome (or Chromium if you want) for your gMail tabs. But only use that browser for Google mail and apps. Do all of your other browsing/searching/whatever with Firefox or Safari or Opera or IE. And maybe switch your default search engine for that browser to Bing or one of those Bing/Google comparison engines or something. And have it either not keep cookies or auto-clear them on exit. Is it 100\% foolproof? Absolutely not. But it's a reasonable step away from having them able to figure out every single thing you do.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope this has already been suggested in the 120-something posts so far , but if not , here 's my simplistic suggestion .
Go ahead and use Chrome ( or Chromium if you want ) for your gMail tabs .
But only use that browser for Google mail and apps .
Do all of your other browsing/searching/whatever with Firefox or Safari or Opera or IE .
And maybe switch your default search engine for that browser to Bing or one of those Bing/Google comparison engines or something .
And have it either not keep cookies or auto-clear them on exit .
Is it 100 \ % foolproof ?
Absolutely not .
But it 's a reasonable step away from having them able to figure out every single thing you do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope this has already been suggested in the 120-something posts so far, but if not, here's my simplistic suggestion.
Go ahead and use Chrome (or Chromium if you want) for your gMail tabs.
But only use that browser for Google mail and apps.
Do all of your other browsing/searching/whatever with Firefox or Safari or Opera or IE.
And maybe switch your default search engine for that browser to Bing or one of those Bing/Google comparison engines or something.
And have it either not keep cookies or auto-clear them on exit.
Is it 100\% foolproof?
Absolutely not.
But it's a reasonable step away from having them able to figure out every single thing you do.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425416</id>
	<title>blfh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260701220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>im in the same situation as described. i like their services (along with the speed-of-light browser chrome) and use them a lot. and am willing to give away a part of my privacy for that. but meanwhile i am concerned as well about all the data, they collect.</p><p>recently i found an interesting article (originally in german) giving a few simple tricks and settings, how to regain a little privacy.<br>for sure, these wont make you anonymous, but its something you can do without a lot effort, that sure will help a little.</p><p>http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http://www.manager-magazin.de/it/artikel/0,2828,665690,00.html</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>im in the same situation as described .
i like their services ( along with the speed-of-light browser chrome ) and use them a lot .
and am willing to give away a part of my privacy for that .
but meanwhile i am concerned as well about all the data , they collect.recently i found an interesting article ( originally in german ) giving a few simple tricks and settings , how to regain a little privacy.for sure , these wont make you anonymous , but its something you can do without a lot effort , that sure will help a little.http : //translate.google.de/translate ? hl = de&amp;sl = de&amp;tl = en&amp;u = http : //www.manager-magazin.de/it/artikel/0,2828,665690,00.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>im in the same situation as described.
i like their services (along with the speed-of-light browser chrome) and use them a lot.
and am willing to give away a part of my privacy for that.
but meanwhile i am concerned as well about all the data, they collect.recently i found an interesting article (originally in german) giving a few simple tricks and settings, how to regain a little privacy.for sure, these wont make you anonymous, but its something you can do without a lot effort, that sure will help a little.http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http://www.manager-magazin.de/it/artikel/0,2828,665690,00.html</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424854</id>
	<title>why do you feel entilted?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260697260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why should you be receiving their services without you giving something of value to them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why should you be receiving their services without you giving something of value to them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why should you be receiving their services without you giving something of value to them?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30429328</id>
	<title>Their watching you!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260789720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If your really paranoid then you know that everything written in the privacy policy is a lie and all your personal data is given to aliens who are planning on taking over the world. And everyone registered to slashdot is a national threat and followed by cia and nsa, using google or not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If your really paranoid then you know that everything written in the privacy policy is a lie and all your personal data is given to aliens who are planning on taking over the world .
And everyone registered to slashdot is a national threat and followed by cia and nsa , using google or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If your really paranoid then you know that everything written in the privacy policy is a lie and all your personal data is given to aliens who are planning on taking over the world.
And everyone registered to slashdot is a national threat and followed by cia and nsa, using google or not.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424946</id>
	<title>Re:Not exactly what you want, but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260697800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're an idiot</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're an idiot</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're an idiot</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424830</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425426</id>
	<title>Pronunciation</title>
	<author>Toe, The</author>
	<datestamp>1260701340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's pronounced "Boorgle."</p><p>Kinda like FaceBorg.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's pronounced " Boorgle .
" Kinda like FaceBorg .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's pronounced "Boorgle.
"Kinda like FaceBorg.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30443072</id>
	<title>Re:Truth is, there is no privacy anywhere.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260887220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I prefer to make it Constitutionally illegal to build databases on private citizens, to only allow information gathering for legal and medical purposes and under strict supervision.  Banks should be legally required to safeguard information.  Marketers, creditors, employers and employment agencies, Internet service providers and others should only collect that which they need to handle their own legal responsibilities.  It should be illegal for them to ask for anything other than the legal requirement.  Even the press should be accountable for collecting information without authority.</p><p>The only people who should be routinely subject to scrutiny are the people who are in law enforcement or those who have authority over them.  Punishment should be severe for anyone who spies on citizens on private property, whether with binoculars or with a government satellite.  If information gathering tools are used that way, its an act of building a database.  The only exception would be the use of orthophoto and satellite data in civil engineering and environmental work but that would need to be supervised to prevent information gathering beyond the scope of the project and would require property owner approval before being made publicly available.</p><p>Encrypted data should be treated as private property and not subject to search without a warrant.  Ex-offenders who have served their time do not get treated differently than other citizens.  Information attained by the Freedom of Information act cannot be published and redistributed if it contains information on private citizens.  Minors involved in the act of spying may be subject to special reform education usually reserved for animal abusers and date rapists.</p><p>The question remaining is "What about times of war?"  Well, it seems that we are always at war nowadays.  No!  No spying during wartime without a warrant.  Fix your security problems in the police and military.  Do your job and stop using fear against the public, even out of laziness.  The simple act of posting this message shouldn't even slightly worry me.  There's no libel here, just opinion and that is Constitutionally protected.  Amending the Constitution to include specific rules on privacy is simply the next logical step in the Information age.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I prefer to make it Constitutionally illegal to build databases on private citizens , to only allow information gathering for legal and medical purposes and under strict supervision .
Banks should be legally required to safeguard information .
Marketers , creditors , employers and employment agencies , Internet service providers and others should only collect that which they need to handle their own legal responsibilities .
It should be illegal for them to ask for anything other than the legal requirement .
Even the press should be accountable for collecting information without authority.The only people who should be routinely subject to scrutiny are the people who are in law enforcement or those who have authority over them .
Punishment should be severe for anyone who spies on citizens on private property , whether with binoculars or with a government satellite .
If information gathering tools are used that way , its an act of building a database .
The only exception would be the use of orthophoto and satellite data in civil engineering and environmental work but that would need to be supervised to prevent information gathering beyond the scope of the project and would require property owner approval before being made publicly available.Encrypted data should be treated as private property and not subject to search without a warrant .
Ex-offenders who have served their time do not get treated differently than other citizens .
Information attained by the Freedom of Information act can not be published and redistributed if it contains information on private citizens .
Minors involved in the act of spying may be subject to special reform education usually reserved for animal abusers and date rapists.The question remaining is " What about times of war ?
" Well , it seems that we are always at war nowadays .
No ! No spying during wartime without a warrant .
Fix your security problems in the police and military .
Do your job and stop using fear against the public , even out of laziness .
The simple act of posting this message should n't even slightly worry me .
There 's no libel here , just opinion and that is Constitutionally protected .
Amending the Constitution to include specific rules on privacy is simply the next logical step in the Information age .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I prefer to make it Constitutionally illegal to build databases on private citizens, to only allow information gathering for legal and medical purposes and under strict supervision.
Banks should be legally required to safeguard information.
Marketers, creditors, employers and employment agencies, Internet service providers and others should only collect that which they need to handle their own legal responsibilities.
It should be illegal for them to ask for anything other than the legal requirement.
Even the press should be accountable for collecting information without authority.The only people who should be routinely subject to scrutiny are the people who are in law enforcement or those who have authority over them.
Punishment should be severe for anyone who spies on citizens on private property, whether with binoculars or with a government satellite.
If information gathering tools are used that way, its an act of building a database.
The only exception would be the use of orthophoto and satellite data in civil engineering and environmental work but that would need to be supervised to prevent information gathering beyond the scope of the project and would require property owner approval before being made publicly available.Encrypted data should be treated as private property and not subject to search without a warrant.
Ex-offenders who have served their time do not get treated differently than other citizens.
Information attained by the Freedom of Information act cannot be published and redistributed if it contains information on private citizens.
Minors involved in the act of spying may be subject to special reform education usually reserved for animal abusers and date rapists.The question remaining is "What about times of war?
"  Well, it seems that we are always at war nowadays.
No!  No spying during wartime without a warrant.
Fix your security problems in the police and military.
Do your job and stop using fear against the public, even out of laziness.
The simple act of posting this message shouldn't even slightly worry me.
There's no libel here, just opinion and that is Constitutionally protected.
Amending the Constitution to include specific rules on privacy is simply the next logical step in the Information age.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424842</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428486</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>NotJesus</author>
	<datestamp>1260732600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I for one would welcome police officers as sexy as Google to frisk me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I for one would welcome police officers as sexy as Google to frisk me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I for one would welcome police officers as sexy as Google to frisk me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425174</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425518</id>
	<title>You pay for it with your anonymous data</title>
	<author>hansonc</author>
	<datestamp>1260702000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about this, write Google a big fat check in exchange for a no tracking cookie.  Wait you want it free too bad.</p><p>You have no right to ask Google to give you anything if you're not willing to pay for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about this , write Google a big fat check in exchange for a no tracking cookie .
Wait you want it free too bad.You have no right to ask Google to give you anything if you 're not willing to pay for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about this, write Google a big fat check in exchange for a no tracking cookie.
Wait you want it free too bad.You have no right to ask Google to give you anything if you're not willing to pay for it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426356</id>
	<title>Re:I get cross gmail account ads</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260709560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I get that lab stuff too.  Just ignore it.  It doesn't make any part of your body get larger.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I get that lab stuff too .
Just ignore it .
It does n't make any part of your body get larger .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get that lab stuff too.
Just ignore it.
It doesn't make any part of your body get larger.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425112</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428404</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260731160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am to lazy to create an account to say this, thus posting as AC.</p><p>My biggest concern is not the gathering of information, after all I have nothing to hide. My biggest concern is how this information is handled.</p><p>Everybody knows that computers programs does mistakes. If this informaton is analyzed with computers (and what else could go through this big amount of information) then we might have wrong results and somebody ending up being persecuted the authorities.</p><p>Then might have been in contact with somebody that will later do something bad... will a program also then associate that with us? This is my concerns.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am to lazy to create an account to say this , thus posting as AC.My biggest concern is not the gathering of information , after all I have nothing to hide .
My biggest concern is how this information is handled.Everybody knows that computers programs does mistakes .
If this informaton is analyzed with computers ( and what else could go through this big amount of information ) then we might have wrong results and somebody ending up being persecuted the authorities.Then might have been in contact with somebody that will later do something bad... will a program also then associate that with us ?
This is my concerns .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am to lazy to create an account to say this, thus posting as AC.My biggest concern is not the gathering of information, after all I have nothing to hide.
My biggest concern is how this information is handled.Everybody knows that computers programs does mistakes.
If this informaton is analyzed with computers (and what else could go through this big amount of information) then we might have wrong results and somebody ending up being persecuted the authorities.Then might have been in contact with somebody that will later do something bad... will a program also then associate that with us?
This is my concerns.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30427470</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>alcmaeon</author>
	<datestamp>1260719640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Welcome to the new Slashdot, where everything Google does is great, and only people with something to hide would care about privacy."</p><p>Actually, that's the old Slashdot.  The new Slashdot would be one where everyone was NOT a Google fanboy and didn't have their tongues all the way up Eric Schmid's ass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Welcome to the new Slashdot , where everything Google does is great , and only people with something to hide would care about privacy .
" Actually , that 's the old Slashdot .
The new Slashdot would be one where everyone was NOT a Google fanboy and did n't have their tongues all the way up Eric Schmid 's ass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Welcome to the new Slashdot, where everything Google does is great, and only people with something to hide would care about privacy.
"Actually, that's the old Slashdot.
The new Slashdot would be one where everyone was NOT a Google fanboy and didn't have their tongues all the way up Eric Schmid's ass.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424982</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425254</id>
	<title>What are the alternatives?</title>
	<author>hfsys</author>
	<datestamp>1260700140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are way to many people posting, "I don't see what the big deal is with Google's lack of privacy..", and not enough people actually supplying possible solutions to this problem.<br> <br>
Google has gotten a lot of support from the Slashdot community over the years, and we definitely helped them grow.   We, obviously, didn't do it alone, but we were certainly a factor.  We are the people that other people ask about such things.  The Tech Nerds.  Google originally offered products with ideas and philosophies we all liked.  We, in turn, helped spread the word about them.<br> <br>
Now I don't care so much for a lot of their new ideas and philosophies.  What alternatives are truly out there?  And I'm sorry, but Microsoft and Bing are not an option.  Microsoft's new whipping boy, Yahoo, is right out, also.  (Yahoo turned to garbage years ago any way.  It's just that now, there is nothing to stop their fall.)<br> <br>
What are good alternatives to Google Search and GMail?</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are way to many people posting , " I do n't see what the big deal is with Google 's lack of privacy.. " , and not enough people actually supplying possible solutions to this problem .
Google has gotten a lot of support from the Slashdot community over the years , and we definitely helped them grow .
We , obviously , did n't do it alone , but we were certainly a factor .
We are the people that other people ask about such things .
The Tech Nerds .
Google originally offered products with ideas and philosophies we all liked .
We , in turn , helped spread the word about them .
Now I do n't care so much for a lot of their new ideas and philosophies .
What alternatives are truly out there ?
And I 'm sorry , but Microsoft and Bing are not an option .
Microsoft 's new whipping boy , Yahoo , is right out , also .
( Yahoo turned to garbage years ago any way .
It 's just that now , there is nothing to stop their fall .
) What are good alternatives to Google Search and GMail ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are way to many people posting, "I don't see what the big deal is with Google's lack of privacy..", and not enough people actually supplying possible solutions to this problem.
Google has gotten a lot of support from the Slashdot community over the years, and we definitely helped them grow.
We, obviously, didn't do it alone, but we were certainly a factor.
We are the people that other people ask about such things.
The Tech Nerds.
Google originally offered products with ideas and philosophies we all liked.
We, in turn, helped spread the word about them.
Now I don't care so much for a lot of their new ideas and philosophies.
What alternatives are truly out there?
And I'm sorry, but Microsoft and Bing are not an option.
Microsoft's new whipping boy, Yahoo, is right out, also.
(Yahoo turned to garbage years ago any way.
It's just that now, there is nothing to stop their fall.
) 
What are good alternatives to Google Search and GMail?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430322</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Joey Vegetables</author>
	<datestamp>1260802380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>They arn't publishing your search history in the newspaper<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. they are using it to increment a counter that you might be interested in office supply ads.</i> </p><p>OK, then, please explain to me how they could possibly think I need <b>Viagra</b>????</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They ar n't publishing your search history in the newspaper .. they are using it to increment a counter that you might be interested in office supply ads .
OK , then , please explain to me how they could possibly think I need Viagra ? ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> They arn't publishing your search history in the newspaper .. they are using it to increment a counter that you might be interested in office supply ads.
OK, then, please explain to me how they could possibly think I need Viagra???
?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428394</id>
	<title>Re:Don't use Gmail</title>
	<author>LordLimecat</author>
	<datestamp>1260730980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You dont need a static IP to do email, no-ip does DDNS and allows you a single MX record.  You DO need an ISP that wont filter SMTP traffic on a residential line, however.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You dont need a static IP to do email , no-ip does DDNS and allows you a single MX record .
You DO need an ISP that wont filter SMTP traffic on a residential line , however .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You dont need a static IP to do email, no-ip does DDNS and allows you a single MX record.
You DO need an ISP that wont filter SMTP traffic on a residential line, however.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425054</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425196</id>
	<title>Clueless - Shame on you.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260699720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your statements clearly show how absolutely clueless you are. Just because you can't think of any use for the data, doesn't mean there isn't any use or some future use.</p><p>Privacy was important enough to be written into the US Constitution. That's good enough for me to want to protect it furiously. Not just for my desires, but for the needs of people how may not have a choice but to stay hidden to avoid persecution by others.</p><p>Shame on you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your statements clearly show how absolutely clueless you are .
Just because you ca n't think of any use for the data , does n't mean there is n't any use or some future use.Privacy was important enough to be written into the US Constitution .
That 's good enough for me to want to protect it furiously .
Not just for my desires , but for the needs of people how may not have a choice but to stay hidden to avoid persecution by others.Shame on you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your statements clearly show how absolutely clueless you are.
Just because you can't think of any use for the data, doesn't mean there isn't any use or some future use.Privacy was important enough to be written into the US Constitution.
That's good enough for me to want to protect it furiously.
Not just for my desires, but for the needs of people how may not have a choice but to stay hidden to avoid persecution by others.Shame on you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30429108</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260786000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry but this must be one of the stupidest posts on slashdot andat that's saying alot, unless it's a rather lame attempt at humor.</p><p>[Click me]</p><p>By clicking the button above your sex life will improve by 300\%. (Or maybe it doesn't???)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry but this must be one of the stupidest posts on slashdot andat that 's saying alot , unless it 's a rather lame attempt at humor .
[ Click me ] By clicking the button above your sex life will improve by 300 \ % .
( Or maybe it does n't ? ? ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry but this must be one of the stupidest posts on slashdot andat that's saying alot, unless it's a rather lame attempt at humor.
[Click me]By clicking the button above your sex life will improve by 300\%.
(Or maybe it doesn't???
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425078</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428970</id>
	<title>Re:Not exactly what you want, but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260783420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Especially as you have the wrong syntax for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/etc/hosts entries.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Especially as you have the wrong syntax for /etc/hosts entries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Especially as you have the wrong syntax for /etc/hosts entries.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424830</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425010</id>
	<title>Re:You could do it yourself.</title>
	<author>sgage</author>
	<datestamp>1260698400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Achmed The Dead Terrorist sez:</p><p>"I keel you!"</p><p>PS - If you like Fukitol, you'll love damnitall!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Achmed The Dead Terrorist sez : " I keel you !
" PS - If you like Fukitol , you 'll love damnitall !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Achmed The Dead Terrorist sez:"I keel you!
"PS - If you like Fukitol, you'll love damnitall!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424880</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424816</id>
	<title>Google UK</title>
	<author>i-like-burritos</author>
	<datestamp>1260697080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know if there's anything you can do to stop them from tracking you when you're using their browser.  If you're using a different browser though, you can avoid having your search queries associated with your gmail account by using a different country's google for the searches.  I stay logged into my gmail all the time, and I use google.co.uk for all my searches.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know if there 's anything you can do to stop them from tracking you when you 're using their browser .
If you 're using a different browser though , you can avoid having your search queries associated with your gmail account by using a different country 's google for the searches .
I stay logged into my gmail all the time , and I use google.co.uk for all my searches .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know if there's anything you can do to stop them from tracking you when you're using their browser.
If you're using a different browser though, you can avoid having your search queries associated with your gmail account by using a different country's google for the searches.
I stay logged into my gmail all the time, and I use google.co.uk for all my searches.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428538</id>
	<title>Re:Not exactly what you want, but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260733680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p># cat &gt;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/etc/hosts<br>&gt; google.com 127.0.0.1<br>&gt; doubleclick.net 127.0.0.1<br>&gt; youtube.com 127.0.0.1<br>&gt; google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1<br>&gt; #<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>&gt; EOF</p></div><p>Why can't i get to youtube now?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext># cat &gt; /etc/hosts &gt; google.com 127.0.0.1 &gt; doubleclick.net 127.0.0.1 &gt; youtube.com 127.0.0.1 &gt; google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1 &gt; # ... &gt; EOFWhy ca n't i get to youtube now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext># cat &gt; /etc/hosts&gt; google.com 127.0.0.1&gt; doubleclick.net 127.0.0.1&gt; youtube.com 127.0.0.1&gt; google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1&gt; # ...&gt; EOFWhy can't i get to youtube now?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424830</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30427986</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>wvmarle</author>
	<datestamp>1260725700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can probably stay somewhat anonymous. As in: they know what you do, but not that it's YOU that's doing just that.
</p><p>It's like my <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus\_card" title="wikipedia.org">Octopus card</a> [wikipedia.org] used for public transport. The Octopus company knows exactly for what rides that card is used - where and when I get on or off the train, where and when I board a bus, the boats I take, the occasional newspaper or other purchase I make with it. And they keep those records for seven years.
</p><p>However what they do not know is that it's me. There is no name linked to the card. I bought it with cash, always update it with cash, basically leaving no trace that it is me.
</p><p>The same I'm sure you can do with Google's services. Create an account, use fake information (or very limited real information, not enough to track it to you, if you have a general name like "john doe" you're set), and Google may know everything about that account, but can not link it to the real you.
</p><p>To me that's more than enough for Google (or Octopus) to know. For Google's ads I actually don't mind them, and have clicked on them quite often, especially when searching for some commercial product or service. E.g. I want to buy a hard disk, then I'd click on ads offering hard disks. If Google personalises that to my account to show sellers local to me and not e.g. USA based sellers, then that would make me happy. And the advertiser as well as a USA seller of such a generic product will not make a sale to me, I rather buy something from a local store. Some personalisation to my preferences is quite OK, linking it to physical me is less so. There is no reason for that imho. Especially not for a foreign company based in a country that starts to scare me more and more when it comes to basic privacy and human rights. If ever I try to cross the US border I don't want to be questioned about Google searches that I did, for example!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can probably stay somewhat anonymous .
As in : they know what you do , but not that it 's YOU that 's doing just that .
It 's like my Octopus card [ wikipedia.org ] used for public transport .
The Octopus company knows exactly for what rides that card is used - where and when I get on or off the train , where and when I board a bus , the boats I take , the occasional newspaper or other purchase I make with it .
And they keep those records for seven years .
However what they do not know is that it 's me .
There is no name linked to the card .
I bought it with cash , always update it with cash , basically leaving no trace that it is me .
The same I 'm sure you can do with Google 's services .
Create an account , use fake information ( or very limited real information , not enough to track it to you , if you have a general name like " john doe " you 're set ) , and Google may know everything about that account , but can not link it to the real you .
To me that 's more than enough for Google ( or Octopus ) to know .
For Google 's ads I actually do n't mind them , and have clicked on them quite often , especially when searching for some commercial product or service .
E.g. I want to buy a hard disk , then I 'd click on ads offering hard disks .
If Google personalises that to my account to show sellers local to me and not e.g .
USA based sellers , then that would make me happy .
And the advertiser as well as a USA seller of such a generic product will not make a sale to me , I rather buy something from a local store .
Some personalisation to my preferences is quite OK , linking it to physical me is less so .
There is no reason for that imho .
Especially not for a foreign company based in a country that starts to scare me more and more when it comes to basic privacy and human rights .
If ever I try to cross the US border I do n't want to be questioned about Google searches that I did , for example !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can probably stay somewhat anonymous.
As in: they know what you do, but not that it's YOU that's doing just that.
It's like my Octopus card [wikipedia.org] used for public transport.
The Octopus company knows exactly for what rides that card is used - where and when I get on or off the train, where and when I board a bus, the boats I take, the occasional newspaper or other purchase I make with it.
And they keep those records for seven years.
However what they do not know is that it's me.
There is no name linked to the card.
I bought it with cash, always update it with cash, basically leaving no trace that it is me.
The same I'm sure you can do with Google's services.
Create an account, use fake information (or very limited real information, not enough to track it to you, if you have a general name like "john doe" you're set), and Google may know everything about that account, but can not link it to the real you.
To me that's more than enough for Google (or Octopus) to know.
For Google's ads I actually don't mind them, and have clicked on them quite often, especially when searching for some commercial product or service.
E.g. I want to buy a hard disk, then I'd click on ads offering hard disks.
If Google personalises that to my account to show sellers local to me and not e.g.
USA based sellers, then that would make me happy.
And the advertiser as well as a USA seller of such a generic product will not make a sale to me, I rather buy something from a local store.
Some personalisation to my preferences is quite OK, linking it to physical me is less so.
There is no reason for that imho.
Especially not for a foreign company based in a country that starts to scare me more and more when it comes to basic privacy and human rights.
If ever I try to cross the US border I don't want to be questioned about Google searches that I did, for example!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425048</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>sgage</author>
	<datestamp>1260698640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you don't have anything to hide.. who cares"</p><p>Ah, the old "if you have nothing to hide" argument. So, we don't need any expectations of any privacy.</p><p>To the degree that you really believe what you wrote there, you are an idiot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you do n't have anything to hide.. who cares " Ah , the old " if you have nothing to hide " argument .
So , we do n't need any expectations of any privacy.To the degree that you really believe what you wrote there , you are an idiot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you don't have anything to hide.. who cares"Ah, the old "if you have nothing to hide" argument.
So, we don't need any expectations of any privacy.To the degree that you really believe what you wrote there, you are an idiot.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425058</id>
	<title>Re:What's the big deal?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260698700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Insurance is the big deal.</p><p>Your searches for "what is that red rash on my penis", "discount overseas pharmaceuticals" or "bulk bacon free shipping" will not make your health insurer very happy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Insurance is the big deal.Your searches for " what is that red rash on my penis " , " discount overseas pharmaceuticals " or " bulk bacon free shipping " will not make your health insurer very happy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Insurance is the big deal.Your searches for "what is that red rash on my penis", "discount overseas pharmaceuticals" or "bulk bacon free shipping" will not make your health insurer very happy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424808</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425044</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260698640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I use my butler Jeeves for everything. He arranges my travel, does my bills, and picks up anything I need from the store. He is fast, courteous and usually reliable. At the same time I know that he is aware of everything I do; I can see it in the way he can often provide suggestions which tend to match my interests. Do to some misplaced comments of his, I am now suspicious that he may not respect my privacy. How do I remain anonymous from my butler while still having him provide all the personal services that I am accustomed to?</p></div><p>You need a RAIB, often redundantly described as a RAIB array.</p><p>"Redundant Array of Inexpensive Butlers"</p><p>The worst privacy problem is cross correlating otherwise innocent isolated activities.  Using multiple butlers prevents them from cross correlating.  Of course, they may collude behind your back.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use my butler Jeeves for everything .
He arranges my travel , does my bills , and picks up anything I need from the store .
He is fast , courteous and usually reliable .
At the same time I know that he is aware of everything I do ; I can see it in the way he can often provide suggestions which tend to match my interests .
Do to some misplaced comments of his , I am now suspicious that he may not respect my privacy .
How do I remain anonymous from my butler while still having him provide all the personal services that I am accustomed to ? You need a RAIB , often redundantly described as a RAIB array .
" Redundant Array of Inexpensive Butlers " The worst privacy problem is cross correlating otherwise innocent isolated activities .
Using multiple butlers prevents them from cross correlating .
Of course , they may collude behind your back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use my butler Jeeves for everything.
He arranges my travel, does my bills, and picks up anything I need from the store.
He is fast, courteous and usually reliable.
At the same time I know that he is aware of everything I do; I can see it in the way he can often provide suggestions which tend to match my interests.
Do to some misplaced comments of his, I am now suspicious that he may not respect my privacy.
How do I remain anonymous from my butler while still having him provide all the personal services that I am accustomed to?You need a RAIB, often redundantly described as a RAIB array.
"Redundant Array of Inexpensive Butlers"The worst privacy problem is cross correlating otherwise innocent isolated activities.
Using multiple butlers prevents them from cross correlating.
Of course, they may collude behind your back.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30433966</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260820260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kudos.  I thin that is the point at the end of the nail.  Therefore, just make sure you are always on the right side of the power of majority<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... or in this case, the side that yields the information.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kudos .
I thin that is the point at the end of the nail .
Therefore , just make sure you are always on the right side of the power of majority ... or in this case , the side that yields the information .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kudos.
I thin that is the point at the end of the nail.
Therefore, just make sure you are always on the right side of the power of majority ... or in this case, the side that yields the information.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425130</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30431952</id>
	<title>I've got no problems</title>
	<author>ravnous</author>
	<datestamp>1260810480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I gladly trade my privacy for the convenience Google provides me. I use a lot of their services, and I get two benefits. I get to use their services for free, and, on the rare case that my eye wanders over to an ad, it's usually something I might want to buy.</p><p>It's good to be concerned about protecting your privacy. But that doesn't mean that you have to keep your browsing habits, email conversations, etc. from everyone just for its own sake. Google proposes trading that information for lots of convenience. I gladly make that trade. I feel that the services they provide me are worth more than keeping my internet life a secret from them. So Google wins, and I win. I couldn't be happier.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I gladly trade my privacy for the convenience Google provides me .
I use a lot of their services , and I get two benefits .
I get to use their services for free , and , on the rare case that my eye wanders over to an ad , it 's usually something I might want to buy.It 's good to be concerned about protecting your privacy .
But that does n't mean that you have to keep your browsing habits , email conversations , etc .
from everyone just for its own sake .
Google proposes trading that information for lots of convenience .
I gladly make that trade .
I feel that the services they provide me are worth more than keeping my internet life a secret from them .
So Google wins , and I win .
I could n't be happier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I gladly trade my privacy for the convenience Google provides me.
I use a lot of their services, and I get two benefits.
I get to use their services for free, and, on the rare case that my eye wanders over to an ad, it's usually something I might want to buy.It's good to be concerned about protecting your privacy.
But that doesn't mean that you have to keep your browsing habits, email conversations, etc.
from everyone just for its own sake.
Google proposes trading that information for lots of convenience.
I gladly make that trade.
I feel that the services they provide me are worth more than keeping my internet life a secret from them.
So Google wins, and I win.
I couldn't be happier.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425148</id>
	<title>Handy Firefox Plugins</title>
	<author>Ziekheid</author>
	<datestamp>1260699420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here are some addons I use in Firefox that might be of use for some:

CookieSafe, permanently ban google in specific from setting cookies (for example):
<a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2497" title="mozilla.org" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2497</a> [mozilla.org]

Ghostery, See who's tracking your web browsing and block them automaticly. (trackers like google analytics, quantcast, etc)
<a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9609" title="mozilla.org" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9609</a> [mozilla.org]

Torbutton,Provides a button to securely and easily enable or disable the browser's use of Tor. It is currently the only addon that will safely manage your Tor browsing to prevent IP address leakage, cookie leakage, and general privacy attacks.
<a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2275" title="mozilla.org" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2275</a> [mozilla.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here are some addons I use in Firefox that might be of use for some : CookieSafe , permanently ban google in specific from setting cookies ( for example ) : https : //addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2497 [ mozilla.org ] Ghostery , See who 's tracking your web browsing and block them automaticly .
( trackers like google analytics , quantcast , etc ) https : //addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9609 [ mozilla.org ] Torbutton,Provides a button to securely and easily enable or disable the browser 's use of Tor .
It is currently the only addon that will safely manage your Tor browsing to prevent IP address leakage , cookie leakage , and general privacy attacks .
https : //addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2275 [ mozilla.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here are some addons I use in Firefox that might be of use for some:

CookieSafe, permanently ban google in specific from setting cookies (for example):
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2497 [mozilla.org]

Ghostery, See who's tracking your web browsing and block them automaticly.
(trackers like google analytics, quantcast, etc)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9609 [mozilla.org]

Torbutton,Provides a button to securely and easily enable or disable the browser's use of Tor.
It is currently the only addon that will safely manage your Tor browsing to prevent IP address leakage, cookie leakage, and general privacy attacks.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2275 [mozilla.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424984</id>
	<title>Too extreme?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260698100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I may have gone to the extreme, but last Friday I moved away from GMail and started the process of erasing my google-held data (check the "dashboard" in account.google.com, it is pretty scary to see how much they know of you.) I'll be deleting my google.com account in a couple of weeks, as my friends start writing to my new Email account. I did the same with Facebook (also last Friday), whose new privacy settings are truly horrendous.

With Bing and Hotmail, I know precisely where my privacy stands. Up to me if I choose to useBing/ Hotmail or not. With Google, I know my privacy is worth squat. Up to me if I use Google/GMail or not.  I chose to close accounts in companies whose privacy policies I disagree with.

Interestingly, erasing oneself from Facebook and Google is not an easy task (although migrating is, see trueswitch.com). they will hold my data and personal information forever. But at least they won't be getting any new data from now on.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I may have gone to the extreme , but last Friday I moved away from GMail and started the process of erasing my google-held data ( check the " dashboard " in account.google.com , it is pretty scary to see how much they know of you .
) I 'll be deleting my google.com account in a couple of weeks , as my friends start writing to my new Email account .
I did the same with Facebook ( also last Friday ) , whose new privacy settings are truly horrendous .
With Bing and Hotmail , I know precisely where my privacy stands .
Up to me if I choose to useBing/ Hotmail or not .
With Google , I know my privacy is worth squat .
Up to me if I use Google/GMail or not .
I chose to close accounts in companies whose privacy policies I disagree with .
Interestingly , erasing oneself from Facebook and Google is not an easy task ( although migrating is , see trueswitch.com ) .
they will hold my data and personal information forever .
But at least they wo n't be getting any new data from now on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I may have gone to the extreme, but last Friday I moved away from GMail and started the process of erasing my google-held data (check the "dashboard" in account.google.com, it is pretty scary to see how much they know of you.
) I'll be deleting my google.com account in a couple of weeks, as my friends start writing to my new Email account.
I did the same with Facebook (also last Friday), whose new privacy settings are truly horrendous.
With Bing and Hotmail, I know precisely where my privacy stands.
Up to me if I choose to useBing/ Hotmail or not.
With Google, I know my privacy is worth squat.
Up to me if I use Google/GMail or not.
I chose to close accounts in companies whose privacy policies I disagree with.
Interestingly, erasing oneself from Facebook and Google is not an easy task (although migrating is, see trueswitch.com).
they will hold my data and personal information forever.
But at least they won't be getting any new data from now on.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425610</id>
	<title>Re:What's the big deal?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260702840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Haha. They were fishing for your height and weight and you gave it to them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Haha .
They were fishing for your height and weight and you gave it to them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Haha.
They were fishing for your height and weight and you gave it to them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424808</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425212</id>
	<title>The CEO's comments are correct...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260699840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The CEO's comments are correct, if you're doing something you feel the need to hide from Google, you probably shouldn't be doing it.  It's time to get off the inane Google-is-Big-Borther conspiracy theory wagon, people.  You just make yourselves look like lunatics.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The CEO 's comments are correct , if you 're doing something you feel the need to hide from Google , you probably should n't be doing it .
It 's time to get off the inane Google-is-Big-Borther conspiracy theory wagon , people .
You just make yourselves look like lunatics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The CEO's comments are correct, if you're doing something you feel the need to hide from Google, you probably shouldn't be doing it.
It's time to get off the inane Google-is-Big-Borther conspiracy theory wagon, people.
You just make yourselves look like lunatics.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426628</id>
	<title>Re:Here's what I do...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260712260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br>I'm Bee!!!!!!!!!!!<br>My beefree addons is useful too!!!!!!!!! (not to be confused with Redirect Cleaner...)</p><p>If you want to look at it, it's here:<br><a href="http://honeybeenet.altervista.org/beefree/" title="altervista.org" rel="nofollow">http://honeybeenet.altervista.org/beefree/</a> [altervista.org]<br><a href="http://honeybeenet.phpbb3now.com/viewforum.php?f=14" title="phpbb3now.com" rel="nofollow">http://honeybeenet.phpbb3now.com/viewforum.php?f=14</a> [phpbb3now.com]</p><p>bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br>Bee!!!!!!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
! I 'm Bee ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
! My beefree addons is useful too ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
( not to be confused with Redirect Cleaner... ) If you want to look at it , it 's here : http : //honeybeenet.altervista.org/beefree/ [ altervista.org ] http : //honeybeenet.phpbb3now.com/viewforum.php ? f = 14 [ phpbb3now.com ] bye ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Bee ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!I'm Bee!!!!!!!!!!
!My beefree addons is useful too!!!!!!!!!
(not to be confused with Redirect Cleaner...)If you want to look at it, it's here:http://honeybeenet.altervista.org/beefree/ [altervista.org]http://honeybeenet.phpbb3now.com/viewforum.php?f=14 [phpbb3now.com]bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Bee!!!!!!!!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425542</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424740</id>
	<title>Ideas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260696600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://mrl.nyu.edu/~dhowe/trackmenot/" title="nyu.edu">TrackMeNot</a> [nyu.edu] for Firefox is useful for masking your real search engine queries with randomised search terms. That's a start. Not sure if there's a Chrome equivalent.

Is Chrome that much of a necessity? Firefox does the job (though it freezes far too often for me).

Otherwise, why not exercise some self-constraint and try products from Yahoo, or even host your own?


(First post?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P)</htmltext>
<tokenext>TrackMeNot [ nyu.edu ] for Firefox is useful for masking your real search engine queries with randomised search terms .
That 's a start .
Not sure if there 's a Chrome equivalent .
Is Chrome that much of a necessity ?
Firefox does the job ( though it freezes far too often for me ) .
Otherwise , why not exercise some self-constraint and try products from Yahoo , or even host your own ?
( First post ?
: P )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TrackMeNot [nyu.edu] for Firefox is useful for masking your real search engine queries with randomised search terms.
That's a start.
Not sure if there's a Chrome equivalent.
Is Chrome that much of a necessity?
Firefox does the job (though it freezes far too often for me).
Otherwise, why not exercise some self-constraint and try products from Yahoo, or even host your own?
(First post?
:P)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30429376</id>
	<title>Re:You don't say</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260790440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you googled "Sex with staplers"<br>
&nbsp; OMG!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you googled " Sex with staplers "   OMG !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you googled "Sex with staplers"
  OMG!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425648</id>
	<title>Wrong Problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260703080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your ISP knows much, much more about you than Google does.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your ISP knows much , much more about you than Google does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your ISP knows much, much more about you than Google does.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425556</id>
	<title>I use ixquick.com</title>
	<author>Rick17JJ</author>
	<datestamp>1260702420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use ixquick.com which claims to be the only search engine which does not collect your IP address.  They have also recently started going by the alternative name name of startpage.com. You can access them by either name or URL.</p><p><a href="http://ixquick.com/" title="ixquick.com">http://ixquick.com/</a> [ixquick.com]<br><a href="http://startpage.com/eng/protect-privacy.html" title="startpage.com">http://startpage.com/eng/protect-privacy.html</a> [startpage.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use ixquick.com which claims to be the only search engine which does not collect your IP address .
They have also recently started going by the alternative name name of startpage.com .
You can access them by either name or URL.http : //ixquick.com/ [ ixquick.com ] http : //startpage.com/eng/protect-privacy.html [ startpage.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use ixquick.com which claims to be the only search engine which does not collect your IP address.
They have also recently started going by the alternative name name of startpage.com.
You can access them by either name or URL.http://ixquick.com/ [ixquick.com]http://startpage.com/eng/protect-privacy.html [startpage.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424994</id>
	<title>Write a script to do it!</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1260698220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>Something like:<br><br>import random, time, os<br>t = 300<br>while 1:<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; time.sleep(t)<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; t = random.randrange(800)<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; dictfile = open('dictionary','r')<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; dictlines = d.readlines()<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; line = dl[random.randrange(len(dl))]<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; x = "wget -0 - http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=" + line<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; c = os.popen(x)<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; p = c.read()<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; </tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>Something like : import random , time , ost = 300while 1 :     time.sleep ( t )     t = random.randrange ( 800 )     dictfile = open ( 'dictionary','r ' )     dictlines = d.readlines ( )     line = dl [ random.randrange ( len ( dl ) ) ]     x = " wget -0 - http : //www.google.ca/search ? sourceid = chrome&amp;ie = UTF-8&amp;q = " + line     c = os.popen ( x )     p = c.read ( )    </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Something like:import random, time, ost = 300while 1:    time.sleep(t)    t = random.randrange(800)    dictfile = open('dictionary','r')    dictlines = d.readlines()    line = dl[random.randrange(len(dl))]    x = "wget -0 - http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=" + line    c = os.popen(x)    p = c.read()    </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424880</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425236</id>
	<title>Re:What's the big deal?</title>
	<author>LockeOnLogic</author>
	<datestamp>1260699960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What *does* freak me out is how my credit card company can ask me to confirm my height and weight when I talk to them on the phone, and when I ask them how the f**k they found out how much I weigh, they tell me that by law they're allowed to download all the information from the Department of Transit and so they know everything that's on my drivers license. THAT's the kind of stuff that I find extremely scary, and that's the kind of thing you can't do anything at all to prevent other than living in a shack in the mountains somewhere.</p></div><p>But the sum of all your purchases, searches, emails ect... becomes a very accurate picture of who you are (or your behavior anyway). Google may not have nefarious intentions, but the profile now exists in a form which is not even promised to be private. <br> <br> Given the experience you had with the data sharing between corporations and government, I'm surprised you don't see the potential negatives. A profile of your whole life and lives of all those around you is just a subpoena away. Maybe less than that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What * does * freak me out is how my credit card company can ask me to confirm my height and weight when I talk to them on the phone , and when I ask them how the f * * k they found out how much I weigh , they tell me that by law they 're allowed to download all the information from the Department of Transit and so they know everything that 's on my drivers license .
THAT 's the kind of stuff that I find extremely scary , and that 's the kind of thing you ca n't do anything at all to prevent other than living in a shack in the mountains somewhere.But the sum of all your purchases , searches , emails ect... becomes a very accurate picture of who you are ( or your behavior anyway ) .
Google may not have nefarious intentions , but the profile now exists in a form which is not even promised to be private .
Given the experience you had with the data sharing between corporations and government , I 'm surprised you do n't see the potential negatives .
A profile of your whole life and lives of all those around you is just a subpoena away .
Maybe less than that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What *does* freak me out is how my credit card company can ask me to confirm my height and weight when I talk to them on the phone, and when I ask them how the f**k they found out how much I weigh, they tell me that by law they're allowed to download all the information from the Department of Transit and so they know everything that's on my drivers license.
THAT's the kind of stuff that I find extremely scary, and that's the kind of thing you can't do anything at all to prevent other than living in a shack in the mountains somewhere.But the sum of all your purchases, searches, emails ect... becomes a very accurate picture of who you are (or your behavior anyway).
Google may not have nefarious intentions, but the profile now exists in a form which is not even promised to be private.
Given the experience you had with the data sharing between corporations and government, I'm surprised you don't see the potential negatives.
A profile of your whole life and lives of all those around you is just a subpoena away.
Maybe less than that.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424808</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426714</id>
	<title>BeeFREE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260712920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p>I wrote one addon for Firefox, beefree, that is useful to help you to keep a bit more of your privacy online!!!!!!!</p><p>If you want to look at it, it's here:<br><a href="http://honeybeenet.altervista.org/beefree/" title="altervista.org" rel="nofollow">http://honeybeenet.altervista.org/beefree/</a> [altervista.org]<br><a href="http://honeybeenet.phpbb3now.com/viewforum.php?f=14" title="phpbb3now.com" rel="nofollow">http://honeybeenet.phpbb3now.com/viewforum.php?f=14</a> [phpbb3now.com]</p><p>bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br>Bee!!!!!!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
! I wrote one addon for Firefox , beefree , that is useful to help you to keep a bit more of your privacy online ! ! ! ! ! !
! If you want to look at it , it 's here : http : //honeybeenet.altervista.org/beefree/ [ altervista.org ] http : //honeybeenet.phpbb3now.com/viewforum.php ? f = 14 [ phpbb3now.com ] bye ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Bee ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!I wrote one addon for Firefox, beefree, that is useful to help you to keep a bit more of your privacy online!!!!!!
!If you want to look at it, it's here:http://honeybeenet.altervista.org/beefree/ [altervista.org]http://honeybeenet.phpbb3now.com/viewforum.php?f=14 [phpbb3now.com]bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Bee!!!!!!!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425178</id>
	<title>Give Cuil a try</title>
	<author>mister\_playboy</author>
	<datestamp>1260699540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.cuil.com/" title="cuil.com">Cuil</a> [cuil.com] was mentioned on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. a while back in a story about Google.  They claim to not retain any information about searches you run... wikipedia says the site was set up by ex-Google employees.  I've been using it for a few days and it seems okay.  YMMV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cuil [ cuil.com ] was mentioned on / .
a while back in a story about Google .
They claim to not retain any information about searches you run... wikipedia says the site was set up by ex-Google employees .
I 've been using it for a few days and it seems okay .
YMMV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cuil [cuil.com] was mentioned on /.
a while back in a story about Google.
They claim to not retain any information about searches you run... wikipedia says the site was set up by ex-Google employees.
I've been using it for a few days and it seems okay.
YMMV.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424842</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30429282</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>synackpshfin</author>
	<datestamp>1260788820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Shoot him.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Shoot him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shoot him.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430868</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>gibson042</author>
	<datestamp>1260805500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A law professor named Daniel Solove went so far as to show precisely the flaws with that position two years ago in his wonderful <a href="http://www.familyrightsassociation.com/bin/white\_papers-articles/nothing\_to\_hide.pdf" title="familyrigh...iation.com" rel="nofollow">"I've Got Nothing to Hide" and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy</a> [familyrigh...iation.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A law professor named Daniel Solove went so far as to show precisely the flaws with that position two years ago in his wonderful " I 've Got Nothing to Hide " and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy [ familyrigh...iation.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A law professor named Daniel Solove went so far as to show precisely the flaws with that position two years ago in his wonderful "I've Got Nothing to Hide" and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy [familyrigh...iation.com].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425048</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30427164</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>kheldan</author>
	<datestamp>1260716580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Welcome to the new Slashdot, where everything Google does is great, and only people with something to hide would care about privacy.</p></div><p>They're idiots.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to the new Slashdot , where everything Google does is great , and only people with something to hide would care about privacy.They 're idiots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to the new Slashdot, where everything Google does is great, and only people with something to hide would care about privacy.They're idiots.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424982</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425346</id>
	<title>What I was planning on doing...</title>
	<author>DiSKiLLeR</author>
	<datestamp>1260700860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I was planning on doing was logging out of google services, and blocking all google cookies....</p><p>Any other suggestions would be welcome.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I was planning on doing was logging out of google services , and blocking all google cookies....Any other suggestions would be welcome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I was planning on doing was logging out of google services, and blocking all google cookies....Any other suggestions would be welcome.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424850</id>
	<title>Don't use Google. :)</title>
	<author>MrMista\_B</author>
	<datestamp>1260697260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Use adblock plus to block google analytics, don't use any social networking sites...</p><p>Honestly, your best bet would be to get off the internet at this point.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Use adblock plus to block google analytics , do n't use any social networking sites...Honestly , your best bet would be to get off the internet at this point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use adblock plus to block google analytics, don't use any social networking sites...Honestly, your best bet would be to get off the internet at this point.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430624</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>MattSausage</author>
	<datestamp>1260804300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>To suggest the principle is exactly the same is a pretty big strawman.  They are nothing alike. One is having you physically stopped, accused and accosted by the police with no recourse other than to go to jail for obstruction of justice.
<br> <br>
In the other situation you are voluntarily and actively seeking out services provided which are offered without coercion and without repercussion if  you decide to not participate. And if you look above there are those options out there. If you don't want Gmail use Hotmail or Yahoo!, if you don't want your search tracked, try an anonymous search engine. It's not that friggin hard people.
<br> <br>
For those of you who think Google is just like a Corrupt police force or government, you are sadly misplacing your outrage. And frankly, if you HONESTLY believe the two are equal, then that is a *good* thing.. because it is obvious you've never dealt with a corrupt police force in your time, and that says good things about the society in which you find yourself.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To suggest the principle is exactly the same is a pretty big strawman .
They are nothing alike .
One is having you physically stopped , accused and accosted by the police with no recourse other than to go to jail for obstruction of justice .
In the other situation you are voluntarily and actively seeking out services provided which are offered without coercion and without repercussion if you decide to not participate .
And if you look above there are those options out there .
If you do n't want Gmail use Hotmail or Yahoo ! , if you do n't want your search tracked , try an anonymous search engine .
It 's not that friggin hard people .
For those of you who think Google is just like a Corrupt police force or government , you are sadly misplacing your outrage .
And frankly , if you HONESTLY believe the two are equal , then that is a * good * thing.. because it is obvious you 've never dealt with a corrupt police force in your time , and that says good things about the society in which you find yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To suggest the principle is exactly the same is a pretty big strawman.
They are nothing alike.
One is having you physically stopped, accused and accosted by the police with no recourse other than to go to jail for obstruction of justice.
In the other situation you are voluntarily and actively seeking out services provided which are offered without coercion and without repercussion if  you decide to not participate.
And if you look above there are those options out there.
If you don't want Gmail use Hotmail or Yahoo!, if you don't want your search tracked, try an anonymous search engine.
It's not that friggin hard people.
For those of you who think Google is just like a Corrupt police force or government, you are sadly misplacing your outrage.
And frankly, if you HONESTLY believe the two are equal, then that is a *good* thing.. because it is obvious you've never dealt with a corrupt police force in your time, and that says good things about the society in which you find yourself.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425174</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30429052</id>
	<title>I use Google's services but not their products...</title>
	<author>argent</author>
	<datestamp>1260785040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use Google's services, but not their products. Why? Because I avoid using any products that behave like and carry ToS like services. I avoid using products that introduce new classes of security holes.</p><p>I have watched Google Update's Firefox extensions launch remotely provided software and install it without my approval, for example... the same kind of behavior in Microsoft's HTML control that led me to ban IE and Outlook at our site over ten years ago. My doubts over Microsoft's security were well-founded then: shortly after I did this the first "cross zone" exploits and associated worms and other malware that took advantage of them came out.</p><p>As for the ToS...</p><blockquote><div><p>11. Software updates</p><p>11.1 The Software which you use may automatically download and install updates from time to time from Google. These updates are designed to improve, enhance and further develop the Services and may take the form of bug fixes, enhanced functions, new software modules and completely new versions. You agree to receive such updates (and permit Google to deliver these to you) as part of your use of the Services.</p></div></blockquote><p>That kind of restriction is fine for a service that's running on their computers, but if your software is running on my computer I reserve the right to keep using an older version or NOT apply a patch if I believe that's in my best interest. A web browser running on my computer isn't a service. I'm sure this boilerplate comes from Google's services side, and their legal beagles just copied and pasted it over from that side, and I'm sure they'll fix it... but until they do, I'm not going to agree to it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Google 's services , but not their products .
Why ? Because I avoid using any products that behave like and carry ToS like services .
I avoid using products that introduce new classes of security holes.I have watched Google Update 's Firefox extensions launch remotely provided software and install it without my approval , for example... the same kind of behavior in Microsoft 's HTML control that led me to ban IE and Outlook at our site over ten years ago .
My doubts over Microsoft 's security were well-founded then : shortly after I did this the first " cross zone " exploits and associated worms and other malware that took advantage of them came out.As for the ToS...11 .
Software updates11.1 The Software which you use may automatically download and install updates from time to time from Google .
These updates are designed to improve , enhance and further develop the Services and may take the form of bug fixes , enhanced functions , new software modules and completely new versions .
You agree to receive such updates ( and permit Google to deliver these to you ) as part of your use of the Services.That kind of restriction is fine for a service that 's running on their computers , but if your software is running on my computer I reserve the right to keep using an older version or NOT apply a patch if I believe that 's in my best interest .
A web browser running on my computer is n't a service .
I 'm sure this boilerplate comes from Google 's services side , and their legal beagles just copied and pasted it over from that side , and I 'm sure they 'll fix it... but until they do , I 'm not going to agree to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Google's services, but not their products.
Why? Because I avoid using any products that behave like and carry ToS like services.
I avoid using products that introduce new classes of security holes.I have watched Google Update's Firefox extensions launch remotely provided software and install it without my approval, for example... the same kind of behavior in Microsoft's HTML control that led me to ban IE and Outlook at our site over ten years ago.
My doubts over Microsoft's security were well-founded then: shortly after I did this the first "cross zone" exploits and associated worms and other malware that took advantage of them came out.As for the ToS...11.
Software updates11.1 The Software which you use may automatically download and install updates from time to time from Google.
These updates are designed to improve, enhance and further develop the Services and may take the form of bug fixes, enhanced functions, new software modules and completely new versions.
You agree to receive such updates (and permit Google to deliver these to you) as part of your use of the Services.That kind of restriction is fine for a service that's running on their computers, but if your software is running on my computer I reserve the right to keep using an older version or NOT apply a patch if I believe that's in my best interest.
A web browser running on my computer isn't a service.
I'm sure this boilerplate comes from Google's services side, and their legal beagles just copied and pasted it over from that side, and I'm sure they'll fix it... but until they do, I'm not going to agree to it.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426644</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260712440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have "middlemen", look at how a mafia boss would go about his normal business</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have " middlemen " , look at how a mafia boss would go about his normal business</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have "middlemen", look at how a mafia boss would go about his normal business</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425436</id>
	<title>Opt out</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260701400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You simply <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/video/google\_opt\_out\_feature\_lets\_users" title="theonion.com" rel="nofollow">opt out</a> [theonion.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You simply opt out [ theonion.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You simply opt out [theonion.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426262</id>
	<title>I managed to block my privacy from Google</title>
	<author>Skapare</author>
	<datestamp>1260708480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... by doing searches through various open web proxies, and Tor.  Now the Google Ads are for stuff I have no interest in.  So does that make it better?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... by doing searches through various open web proxies , and Tor .
Now the Google Ads are for stuff I have no interest in .
So does that make it better ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... by doing searches through various open web proxies, and Tor.
Now the Google Ads are for stuff I have no interest in.
So does that make it better?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425560</id>
	<title>Re:clusty; whitelisting cookies</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1260702420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I recently started whitelisting cookies, and I am currently trying out the Cookie Monster addon for Firefox:</p><p><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4703" title="mozilla.org" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4703</a> [mozilla.org]</p><p>The biggest addition to what you suggest is that there is a 'temporarily allow cookies' interface, which makes it pretty easy to ban all cookies and selectively enable cookies for a domain for only the current browser session when something doesn't work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I recently started whitelisting cookies , and I am currently trying out the Cookie Monster addon for Firefox : https : //addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4703 [ mozilla.org ] The biggest addition to what you suggest is that there is a 'temporarily allow cookies ' interface , which makes it pretty easy to ban all cookies and selectively enable cookies for a domain for only the current browser session when something does n't work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recently started whitelisting cookies, and I am currently trying out the Cookie Monster addon for Firefox:https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4703 [mozilla.org]The biggest addition to what you suggest is that there is a 'temporarily allow cookies' interface, which makes it pretty easy to ban all cookies and selectively enable cookies for a domain for only the current browser session when something doesn't work.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424970</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425082</id>
	<title>While we're at it, gadgets phone home.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260698880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I stopped using Google's desktop gadgets because they crash Plasma when they fail to reach analytics (I discovered this using strace on Plasma.) The outright crash might be a KDE bug, but there's absolutely absolutely no reason a moon phase gadget should need access to the internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I stopped using Google 's desktop gadgets because they crash Plasma when they fail to reach analytics ( I discovered this using strace on Plasma .
) The outright crash might be a KDE bug , but there 's absolutely absolutely no reason a moon phase gadget should need access to the internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I stopped using Google's desktop gadgets because they crash Plasma when they fail to reach analytics (I discovered this using strace on Plasma.
) The outright crash might be a KDE bug, but there's absolutely absolutely no reason a moon phase gadget should need access to the internet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425278</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Jah-Wren Ryel</author>
	<datestamp>1260700260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I use my butler Jeeves for everything.</p></div><p>Now, if only Google would sign the same confidentiality agreement that Jeeves did.  Oh and it would be nice if Google's fiscal priorities were aligned with maintaining my privacy like Jeeves's are rather than exploiting it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use my butler Jeeves for everything.Now , if only Google would sign the same confidentiality agreement that Jeeves did .
Oh and it would be nice if Google 's fiscal priorities were aligned with maintaining my privacy like Jeeves 's are rather than exploiting it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use my butler Jeeves for everything.Now, if only Google would sign the same confidentiality agreement that Jeeves did.
Oh and it would be nice if Google's fiscal priorities were aligned with maintaining my privacy like Jeeves's are rather than exploiting it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424860</id>
	<title>Proxies are not going to help</title>
	<author>Avtar</author>
	<datestamp>1260697260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Using proxy services is not going to help as Google has access to your emails, which have a lot of data specific only to you.</p><p>Also if you keep Gmail open all day, you are almost certainly logged into the search page with cookies which make the proxies useless.</p><p>Your best bet is to use Google dashboard ( <a href="https://www.google.com/dashboard/" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/dashboard/</a> [google.com] ) to delete your search history until you can find a better solution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Using proxy services is not going to help as Google has access to your emails , which have a lot of data specific only to you.Also if you keep Gmail open all day , you are almost certainly logged into the search page with cookies which make the proxies useless.Your best bet is to use Google dashboard ( https : //www.google.com/dashboard/ [ google.com ] ) to delete your search history until you can find a better solution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Using proxy services is not going to help as Google has access to your emails, which have a lot of data specific only to you.Also if you keep Gmail open all day, you are almost certainly logged into the search page with cookies which make the proxies useless.Your best bet is to use Google dashboard ( https://www.google.com/dashboard/ [google.com] ) to delete your search history until you can find a better solution.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30427740</id>
	<title>Re:Don't use Gmail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260722820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Running your own email server isn't exactly hard as long as your ISP is willing to change your PTR record and give you a static IP.</p></div><p>It also doesn't exactly increase your privacy unless all the people you communicate with also run their own email servers.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Running your own email server is n't exactly hard as long as your ISP is willing to change your PTR record and give you a static IP.It also does n't exactly increase your privacy unless all the people you communicate with also run their own email servers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Running your own email server isn't exactly hard as long as your ISP is willing to change your PTR record and give you a static IP.It also doesn't exactly increase your privacy unless all the people you communicate with also run their own email servers.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425054</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426272</id>
	<title>Proxy, Firefox, NoScript</title>
	<author>BlueWaterBaboonFarm</author>
	<datestamp>1260708660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can use a proxy (I use to use www.packetflip.com, fast and reliable but expensive).  Have NoScript on Firefox and kill and the google crap.  Don't run your email in the browser or IP address as your searches.  I think that should work.<p>*I have no financial affiliation with packetflip other than using their service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can use a proxy ( I use to use www.packetflip.com , fast and reliable but expensive ) .
Have NoScript on Firefox and kill and the google crap .
Do n't run your email in the browser or IP address as your searches .
I think that should work .
* I have no financial affiliation with packetflip other than using their service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can use a proxy (I use to use www.packetflip.com, fast and reliable but expensive).
Have NoScript on Firefox and kill and the google crap.
Don't run your email in the browser or IP address as your searches.
I think that should work.
*I have no financial affiliation with packetflip other than using their service.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428810</id>
	<title>Re:I get cross gmail account ads</title>
	<author>cerberusss</author>
	<datestamp>1260781260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I use a work gmail account for testing/backup. My personal email is not gmail.[...] And some ads in gmail clearly are oriented to my personal stuff.</p></div><p>I've also got a work gmail account, but since we pay for it, it doesn't have any ads. Did you just create a random gmail account, i.e. someone@gmail.com for work purposes? Wouldn't it be better to just make a business Google Apps account for business purposes?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use a work gmail account for testing/backup .
My personal email is not gmail. [ .. .
] And some ads in gmail clearly are oriented to my personal stuff.I 've also got a work gmail account , but since we pay for it , it does n't have any ads .
Did you just create a random gmail account , i.e .
someone @ gmail.com for work purposes ?
Would n't it be better to just make a business Google Apps account for business purposes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use a work gmail account for testing/backup.
My personal email is not gmail.[...
] And some ads in gmail clearly are oriented to my personal stuff.I've also got a work gmail account, but since we pay for it, it doesn't have any ads.
Did you just create a random gmail account, i.e.
someone@gmail.com for work purposes?
Wouldn't it be better to just make a business Google Apps account for business purposes?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425112</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428740</id>
	<title>Use a virtual machine</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260823560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just use a virtual machine to do my surfing.  When I shut it down all changes are removed.  That means cookies, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just use a virtual machine to do my surfing .
When I shut it down all changes are removed .
That means cookies , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just use a virtual machine to do my surfing.
When I shut it down all changes are removed.
That means cookies, etc.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428258</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260729000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you don't have anything to hide.. who cares</p></div><p>If you don't have anything to hide you don't have a life. Get a life!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you do n't have anything to hide.. who caresIf you do n't have anything to hide you do n't have a life .
Get a life !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you don't have anything to hide.. who caresIf you don't have anything to hide you don't have a life.
Get a life!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430024</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260799980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Firefox Add-on, CustomizeGoogle has Privacy checkboxes that:<br>1) Anonymize the Google cookie UID, and<br>2) Prevents sending any cookies to Google Analytics</p><p>Don't surf the Internet without it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Firefox Add-on , CustomizeGoogle has Privacy checkboxes that : 1 ) Anonymize the Google cookie UID , and2 ) Prevents sending any cookies to Google AnalyticsDo n't surf the Internet without it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Firefox Add-on, CustomizeGoogle has Privacy checkboxes that:1) Anonymize the Google cookie UID, and2) Prevents sending any cookies to Google AnalyticsDon't surf the Internet without it!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428848</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260781740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly! I tried telling them but n00bz just can't l2r teh internetz...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly !
I tried telling them but n00bz just ca n't l2r teh internetz.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly!
I tried telling them but n00bz just can't l2r teh internetz...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424884</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas</title>
	<author>Frosty Piss</author>
	<datestamp>1260697380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Firefox does the job (though it freezes far too often for me).</p></div><p>There is *NOTHING* wrong with Firefox. What you are experiencing is *user error*. There's a simple fix: it requires a specific text file that you'll need to edit, clear a few ini variables, then restart. You could have Googled this.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Firefox does the job ( though it freezes far too often for me ) .There is * NOTHING * wrong with Firefox .
What you are experiencing is * user error * .
There 's a simple fix : it requires a specific text file that you 'll need to edit , clear a few ini variables , then restart .
You could have Googled this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firefox does the job (though it freezes far too often for me).There is *NOTHING* wrong with Firefox.
What you are experiencing is *user error*.
There's a simple fix: it requires a specific text file that you'll need to edit, clear a few ini variables, then restart.
You could have Googled this.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30436768</id>
	<title>Re:Why even bother</title>
	<author>HollyMolly-1122</author>
	<datestamp>1260791520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why even bother?: - 508 comments so far<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why even bother ?
: - 508 comments so far .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why even bother?
: - 508 comments so far ...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30432172</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426504</id>
	<title>The answer was in the question!</title>
	<author>Vexorian</author>
	<datestamp>1260711120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>To paraphrase Schmidt, YOU DON'T.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To paraphrase Schmidt , YOU DO N'T .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To paraphrase Schmidt, YOU DON'T.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426058</id>
	<title>Decouple your mail and seach query personas.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260706620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't log in to google on the web: download your gmail into an IMAP/POP client like Thunderbird, and do searches in your browser without logging in, and block cookies or clear them frequently(*).  Use NoScript or similar in your browser to block the google-analytics.com domain.  (Really if you care about privacy at all you should have<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/all/ cookies and scripts off by default and only ever enable them when you need them.)</p><p>(*) Of course your searches and IMAP downloads come from the same IP address, but if you're behind a NAT gateway that could be any number of different people anyway, so they can't draw strong links from the association.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't log in to google on the web : download your gmail into an IMAP/POP client like Thunderbird , and do searches in your browser without logging in , and block cookies or clear them frequently ( * ) .
Use NoScript or similar in your browser to block the google-analytics.com domain .
( Really if you care about privacy at all you should have /all/ cookies and scripts off by default and only ever enable them when you need them .
) ( * ) Of course your searches and IMAP downloads come from the same IP address , but if you 're behind a NAT gateway that could be any number of different people anyway , so they ca n't draw strong links from the association .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't log in to google on the web: download your gmail into an IMAP/POP client like Thunderbird, and do searches in your browser without logging in, and block cookies or clear them frequently(*).
Use NoScript or similar in your browser to block the google-analytics.com domain.
(Really if you care about privacy at all you should have /all/ cookies and scripts off by default and only ever enable them when you need them.
)(*) Of course your searches and IMAP downloads come from the same IP address, but if you're behind a NAT gateway that could be any number of different people anyway, so they can't draw strong links from the association.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425126</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260699180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree with him... people who have issues with Firefox, have issues with Firefox due to user error. A clean install, on a clean OS, with working hardware doesn't have these issues.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree with him... people who have issues with Firefox , have issues with Firefox due to user error .
A clean install , on a clean OS , with working hardware does n't have these issues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree with him... people who have issues with Firefox, have issues with Firefox due to user error.
A clean install, on a clean OS, with working hardware doesn't have these issues.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30434938</id>
	<title>Re:Not exactly what you want, but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260782160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p># cat &gt;&gt;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/etc/hosts<br>&gt; 0.0.0.0 google.com<br>&gt; 0.0.0.0 doubleclick.net<br>&gt; 0.0.0.0 youtube.com<br>&gt; 0.0.0.0 google-analytics.com<br>&gt; #<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>&gt; EOF</p><p>* FTFY<br>Also, using an invalid ip is more efficient since your os won't bother connecting to it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext># cat &gt; &gt; /etc/hosts &gt; 0.0.0.0 google.com &gt; 0.0.0.0 doubleclick.net &gt; 0.0.0.0 youtube.com &gt; 0.0.0.0 google-analytics.com &gt; # ... &gt; EOF * FTFYAlso , using an invalid ip is more efficient since your os wo n't bother connecting to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext># cat &gt;&gt; /etc/hosts&gt; 0.0.0.0 google.com&gt; 0.0.0.0 doubleclick.net&gt; 0.0.0.0 youtube.com&gt; 0.0.0.0 google-analytics.com&gt; # ...&gt; EOF* FTFYAlso, using an invalid ip is more efficient since your os won't bother connecting to it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424830</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425112</id>
	<title>I get cross gmail account ads</title>
	<author>stimpleton</author>
	<datestamp>1260699060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I work for a company that supplies a specific unique service(Laboratory Service). I use a work gmail account for testing/backup. My personal email is not gmail. To my surprise after using gmail I starting getting spam to my personal account to do with Lab stuff. And some ads in gmail clearly are oriented to my personal stuff. As far as I know I have never crossed the two and strickly keep personal matters out of Gmail.<br> <br>As with a comment above, "if you have nothing to hide", I don't have anything to hide. But it is somewhat unsettling.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I work for a company that supplies a specific unique service ( Laboratory Service ) .
I use a work gmail account for testing/backup .
My personal email is not gmail .
To my surprise after using gmail I starting getting spam to my personal account to do with Lab stuff .
And some ads in gmail clearly are oriented to my personal stuff .
As far as I know I have never crossed the two and strickly keep personal matters out of Gmail .
As with a comment above , " if you have nothing to hide " , I do n't have anything to hide .
But it is somewhat unsettling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work for a company that supplies a specific unique service(Laboratory Service).
I use a work gmail account for testing/backup.
My personal email is not gmail.
To my surprise after using gmail I starting getting spam to my personal account to do with Lab stuff.
And some ads in gmail clearly are oriented to my personal stuff.
As far as I know I have never crossed the two and strickly keep personal matters out of Gmail.
As with a comment above, "if you have nothing to hide", I don't have anything to hide.
But it is somewhat unsettling.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425284</id>
	<title>FireGPG</title>
	<author>UPZ</author>
	<datestamp>1260700320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Try FireGPG extension on firefox. Adds GPG features to web based Gmail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Try FireGPG extension on firefox .
Adds GPG features to web based Gmail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try FireGPG extension on firefox.
Adds GPG features to web based Gmail.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425602</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260702720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its not the Goolge of today that you need to worry about; its the Google (and any other like company or internet service) of tomorrow that's in question. Today's Google has a track record of and a public stated policy of *trying to do the *right thing*, but should the Google founders, Schmidt, or the board decided otherwise or should Google decided to sell off some assets for whatever reasons -- all bets are off!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its not the Goolge of today that you need to worry about ; its the Google ( and any other like company or internet service ) of tomorrow that 's in question .
Today 's Google has a track record of and a public stated policy of * trying to do the * right thing * , but should the Google founders , Schmidt , or the board decided otherwise or should Google decided to sell off some assets for whatever reasons -- all bets are off !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its not the Goolge of today that you need to worry about; its the Google (and any other like company or internet service) of tomorrow that's in question.
Today's Google has a track record of and a public stated policy of *trying to do the *right thing*, but should the Google founders, Schmidt, or the board decided otherwise or should Google decided to sell off some assets for whatever reasons -- all bets are off!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30434510</id>
	<title>Privacy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260823140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Privacy is like masturbation,</p><p>There are those with something to hide, and those who lie about it.</p><p>No one wants their whole life on the net.  Period</p><p>Next year it will be a google/bing/nsa/freedom toast web cam to record your home, guests and your home habits, auto identifying every product, person, all the while serving up custom adverts to your Big Brother monitor all for the monthly low price of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..  Wait  wait, its Free? Well SIGN ME UP!!!!1!</p><p>We are human beings, not numbers or product profiles.  Please treat us as such, and INSIST that you are treated as such, by those you give money/time/mental focus to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Privacy is like masturbation,There are those with something to hide , and those who lie about it.No one wants their whole life on the net .
PeriodNext year it will be a google/bing/nsa/freedom toast web cam to record your home , guests and your home habits , auto identifying every product , person , all the while serving up custom adverts to your Big Brother monitor all for the monthly low price of .. Wait wait , its Free ?
Well SIGN ME UP ! ! !
! 1 ! We are human beings , not numbers or product profiles .
Please treat us as such , and INSIST that you are treated as such , by those you give money/time/mental focus to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Privacy is like masturbation,There are those with something to hide, and those who lie about it.No one wants their whole life on the net.
PeriodNext year it will be a google/bing/nsa/freedom toast web cam to record your home, guests and your home habits, auto identifying every product, person, all the while serving up custom adverts to your Big Brother monitor all for the monthly low price of ..  Wait  wait, its Free?
Well SIGN ME UP!!!
!1!We are human beings, not numbers or product profiles.
Please treat us as such, and INSIST that you are treated as such, by those you give money/time/mental focus to.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430826</id>
	<title>Erics Privacy is Important</title>
	<author>flyneye</author>
	<datestamp>1260805260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have a look<br><a href="http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;um=1&amp;sa=1&amp;q=CEO+Eric+Schmidt+&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;aqi=&amp;start=0" title="google.com">http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;um=1&amp;sa=1&amp;q=CEO+Eric+Schmidt+&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;aqi=&amp;start=0</a> [google.com]<br><a href="http://www.google.com/corporate/execs.html#eric" title="google.com">http://www.google.com/corporate/execs.html#eric</a> [google.com]<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric\_E.\_Schmidt" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric\_E.\_Schmidt</a> [wikipedia.org]<br>Not sure where he lives or how to contact him tho.<br>Anybody have anything to add?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have a lookhttp : //images.google.com/images ? hl = en&amp;safe = off&amp;um = 1&amp;sa = 1&amp;q = CEO + Eric + Schmidt + &amp;aq = f&amp;oq = &amp;aqi = &amp;start = 0 [ google.com ] http : //www.google.com/corporate/execs.html # eric [ google.com ] http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric \ _E. \ _Schmidt [ wikipedia.org ] Not sure where he lives or how to contact him tho.Anybody have anything to add ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have a lookhttp://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;um=1&amp;sa=1&amp;q=CEO+Eric+Schmidt+&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=&amp;aqi=&amp;start=0 [google.com]http://www.google.com/corporate/execs.html#eric [google.com]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric\_E.\_Schmidt [wikipedia.org]Not sure where he lives or how to contact him tho.Anybody have anything to add?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425786</id>
	<title>Poison the cloud (user SEO)</title>
	<author>Torodung</author>
	<datestamp>1260704340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just like site SEO, Google can store stuff on you, but they have difficulty vetting it for relevancy and/or scoring it. Make a few bogus searches, from time to time each month, about really weird, embarrassing things that have nothing to do with you, and also very mundane but specific things that have nothing to do with you. You can learn all sorts of interesting things in the process. If they're going to have a data file on you, make sure it contains <b>everything</b> and then you have plausible deniability regarding anything specific. Make sure the information stored about you is often wildly inaccurate and then have a laugh at the ad results for genital herpes cream and whatnot.</p><p>--<br>Toro</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just like site SEO , Google can store stuff on you , but they have difficulty vetting it for relevancy and/or scoring it .
Make a few bogus searches , from time to time each month , about really weird , embarrassing things that have nothing to do with you , and also very mundane but specific things that have nothing to do with you .
You can learn all sorts of interesting things in the process .
If they 're going to have a data file on you , make sure it contains everything and then you have plausible deniability regarding anything specific .
Make sure the information stored about you is often wildly inaccurate and then have a laugh at the ad results for genital herpes cream and whatnot.--Toro</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just like site SEO, Google can store stuff on you, but they have difficulty vetting it for relevancy and/or scoring it.
Make a few bogus searches, from time to time each month, about really weird, embarrassing things that have nothing to do with you, and also very mundane but specific things that have nothing to do with you.
You can learn all sorts of interesting things in the process.
If they're going to have a data file on you, make sure it contains everything and then you have plausible deniability regarding anything specific.
Make sure the information stored about you is often wildly inaccurate and then have a laugh at the ad results for genital herpes cream and whatnot.--Toro</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425950</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260705840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Such an incredibly naive perspective that overlooks the obvious fact that no one ever authorized Google to perform this kind of oversight. Since when did companies become adjuncts to public authority?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Such an incredibly naive perspective that overlooks the obvious fact that no one ever authorized Google to perform this kind of oversight .
Since when did companies become adjuncts to public authority ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Such an incredibly naive perspective that overlooks the obvious fact that no one ever authorized Google to perform this kind of oversight.
Since when did companies become adjuncts to public authority?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425174</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424822</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260697140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sticking with the theme of Firefox extensions there is also customize google, it does more than search too.  <a href="http://www.customizegoogle.com/" title="customizegoogle.com">http://www.customizegoogle.com/</a> [customizegoogle.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sticking with the theme of Firefox extensions there is also customize google , it does more than search too .
http : //www.customizegoogle.com/ [ customizegoogle.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sticking with the theme of Firefox extensions there is also customize google, it does more than search too.
http://www.customizegoogle.com/ [customizegoogle.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30429114</id>
	<title>Re:Don't use Gmail</title>
	<author>StripedCow</author>
	<datestamp>1260786120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Running your own email server isn't exactly hard as long as your ISP is willing to change your PTR record and give you a static IP.</p></div><p>but you'll have to trust your ISP and everybody else who is on the line...</p><p>in the meantime, i'll be waiting for mainstream encryption of e-mail to become a reality<br>(why is it taking so long?)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Running your own email server is n't exactly hard as long as your ISP is willing to change your PTR record and give you a static IP.but you 'll have to trust your ISP and everybody else who is on the line...in the meantime , i 'll be waiting for mainstream encryption of e-mail to become a reality ( why is it taking so long ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Running your own email server isn't exactly hard as long as your ISP is willing to change your PTR record and give you a static IP.but you'll have to trust your ISP and everybody else who is on the line...in the meantime, i'll be waiting for mainstream encryption of e-mail to become a reality(why is it taking so long?
)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425054</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30429206</id>
	<title>First step...</title>
	<author>whassaname</author>
	<datestamp>1260787740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>..don't read Slashdot.

"Ads by Google"</htmltext>
<tokenext>..do n't read Slashdot .
" Ads by Google "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..don't read Slashdot.
"Ads by Google"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30427146</id>
	<title>Trusting profit-minded with privacy is unwise.</title>
	<author>jbn-o</author>
	<datestamp>1260716460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The thing about privacy options offered by the system is that they're completely untrustworthy.  You're essentially hoping that AskJeeves will do what you want despite the fact that AskJeeves has all the information they need to tell people details of your search(es).  You are trusting a corporation with your privacy for no good reason.  Even if everyone at AskJeeves honors those settings they could inadvertently spill details about your queries.  Just because they say "When AskEraser is enabled your search activity will be deleted from Ask.com (not third-party) servers..." doesn't mean they'll erase anything.  Maybe they'll tag the information you want erased and keep it around, then interpret that tag with a different meaning than what you intended: you want this erased, but they'll consider that more important to keep because now they know you want it erased.</p><p>When Google bought DejaNews' Usenet database Google didn't initially honor the "X-no-archive: yes" header/first-line-of-post setting (which was intended to tell Usenet archivists something about tagged posts; a foolish approach to be sure but fun to play with just to see what happens).  At first it was possible to retrieve Usenet posts from Google's database which had this header/body-line set.  Later Google honored the setting and the posts were no longer searchable by people outside Google HQ.  But this was enough to show that x-no-archive wasn't being used as a signal not to store/index these posts (DejaNews and Google obviously did just that), nor did x-no-archive mean not to convey the posts to others (DejaNews obviously conveyed them to Google).  One can safely assume that if one initiates a search from a trusted place (say, from machines inside Google HQ), one can pull up these posts today.</p><p>The only way to preserve your privacy is to think about what information is important and not distribute secret information in the first place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The thing about privacy options offered by the system is that they 're completely untrustworthy .
You 're essentially hoping that AskJeeves will do what you want despite the fact that AskJeeves has all the information they need to tell people details of your search ( es ) .
You are trusting a corporation with your privacy for no good reason .
Even if everyone at AskJeeves honors those settings they could inadvertently spill details about your queries .
Just because they say " When AskEraser is enabled your search activity will be deleted from Ask.com ( not third-party ) servers... " does n't mean they 'll erase anything .
Maybe they 'll tag the information you want erased and keep it around , then interpret that tag with a different meaning than what you intended : you want this erased , but they 'll consider that more important to keep because now they know you want it erased.When Google bought DejaNews ' Usenet database Google did n't initially honor the " X-no-archive : yes " header/first-line-of-post setting ( which was intended to tell Usenet archivists something about tagged posts ; a foolish approach to be sure but fun to play with just to see what happens ) .
At first it was possible to retrieve Usenet posts from Google 's database which had this header/body-line set .
Later Google honored the setting and the posts were no longer searchable by people outside Google HQ .
But this was enough to show that x-no-archive was n't being used as a signal not to store/index these posts ( DejaNews and Google obviously did just that ) , nor did x-no-archive mean not to convey the posts to others ( DejaNews obviously conveyed them to Google ) .
One can safely assume that if one initiates a search from a trusted place ( say , from machines inside Google HQ ) , one can pull up these posts today.The only way to preserve your privacy is to think about what information is important and not distribute secret information in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The thing about privacy options offered by the system is that they're completely untrustworthy.
You're essentially hoping that AskJeeves will do what you want despite the fact that AskJeeves has all the information they need to tell people details of your search(es).
You are trusting a corporation with your privacy for no good reason.
Even if everyone at AskJeeves honors those settings they could inadvertently spill details about your queries.
Just because they say "When AskEraser is enabled your search activity will be deleted from Ask.com (not third-party) servers..." doesn't mean they'll erase anything.
Maybe they'll tag the information you want erased and keep it around, then interpret that tag with a different meaning than what you intended: you want this erased, but they'll consider that more important to keep because now they know you want it erased.When Google bought DejaNews' Usenet database Google didn't initially honor the "X-no-archive: yes" header/first-line-of-post setting (which was intended to tell Usenet archivists something about tagged posts; a foolish approach to be sure but fun to play with just to see what happens).
At first it was possible to retrieve Usenet posts from Google's database which had this header/body-line set.
Later Google honored the setting and the posts were no longer searchable by people outside Google HQ.
But this was enough to show that x-no-archive wasn't being used as a signal not to store/index these posts (DejaNews and Google obviously did just that), nor did x-no-archive mean not to convey the posts to others (DejaNews obviously conveyed them to Google).
One can safely assume that if one initiates a search from a trusted place (say, from machines inside Google HQ), one can pull up these posts today.The only way to preserve your privacy is to think about what information is important and not distribute secret information in the first place.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425078</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430296</id>
	<title>Switch OFF javascript to avoid click hihgjacking!</title>
	<author>HollyMolly-1122</author>
	<datestamp>1260802140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This "feature" just recently came to google search, and it behaves just like viruses did it some years ago. If you point your mouse on any search results, your browser shows unaltered link location, but as far as you click on it - it gets highjacked and real address becomes another one.
This behaviur of webpage was discussed several years ago and it was in the roots of famous phishing technology about what you was warned by anti-virus companies and by microsoft and google itself.
But this is only one side of coin ! In order to get "protected" against phishing you have settings in your browser "against it".
All these settings do: they report what you are browsing to the google servers ! Just surf the search - and you will find: people reports about silent connections of their browsers to the googles "anti-phishing" centre reporting links they are browsing.  The same with microsoft explorer "anti-phishing". It reports to microsoft - what you are browsing!
Of course - this information should be used to warn you against phishing sites, bu who have guaranty of it ?
Private company with information can do whatever they like to do.
For example yahoo search sends every your click on the results first to their server even without click-highjacking. The result is similar.
-
All most stupid things in the world are done with wize expression in the face.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This " feature " just recently came to google search , and it behaves just like viruses did it some years ago .
If you point your mouse on any search results , your browser shows unaltered link location , but as far as you click on it - it gets highjacked and real address becomes another one .
This behaviur of webpage was discussed several years ago and it was in the roots of famous phishing technology about what you was warned by anti-virus companies and by microsoft and google itself .
But this is only one side of coin !
In order to get " protected " against phishing you have settings in your browser " against it " .
All these settings do : they report what you are browsing to the google servers !
Just surf the search - and you will find : people reports about silent connections of their browsers to the googles " anti-phishing " centre reporting links they are browsing .
The same with microsoft explorer " anti-phishing " .
It reports to microsoft - what you are browsing !
Of course - this information should be used to warn you against phishing sites , bu who have guaranty of it ?
Private company with information can do whatever they like to do .
For example yahoo search sends every your click on the results first to their server even without click-highjacking .
The result is similar .
- All most stupid things in the world are done with wize expression in the face .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This "feature" just recently came to google search, and it behaves just like viruses did it some years ago.
If you point your mouse on any search results, your browser shows unaltered link location, but as far as you click on it - it gets highjacked and real address becomes another one.
This behaviur of webpage was discussed several years ago and it was in the roots of famous phishing technology about what you was warned by anti-virus companies and by microsoft and google itself.
But this is only one side of coin !
In order to get "protected" against phishing you have settings in your browser "against it".
All these settings do: they report what you are browsing to the google servers !
Just surf the search - and you will find: people reports about silent connections of their browsers to the googles "anti-phishing" centre reporting links they are browsing.
The same with microsoft explorer "anti-phishing".
It reports to microsoft - what you are browsing!
Of course - this information should be used to warn you against phishing sites, bu who have guaranty of it ?
Private company with information can do whatever they like to do.
For example yahoo search sends every your click on the results first to their server even without click-highjacking.
The result is similar.
-
All most stupid things in the world are done with wize expression in the face.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428612</id>
	<title>Google-anon is one way to lower your footprint</title>
	<author>haus</author>
	<datestamp>1260821340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a Firefox plugin it allows you to submit Google searches while logged into Google services but not affiliate the search with your Google account.</p><p><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10354nn.com/" title="mozilla.org">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10354nn.com/</a> [mozilla.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a Firefox plugin it allows you to submit Google searches while logged into Google services but not affiliate the search with your Google account.https : //addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10354nn.com/ [ mozilla.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a Firefox plugin it allows you to submit Google searches while logged into Google services but not affiliate the search with your Google account.https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10354nn.com/ [mozilla.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428520</id>
	<title>Easy. No Javascript. No cookies</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260733440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Subject says all.</p><p>That means of course no webmail in most cases. But webmail is an abomination anyway, right?</p><p>And that's why I'm Anonymous Coward here. With no Javascript and no cookies I can't subscribe.</p><p>I would otherwise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Subject says all.That means of course no webmail in most cases .
But webmail is an abomination anyway , right ? And that 's why I 'm Anonymous Coward here .
With no Javascript and no cookies I ca n't subscribe.I would otherwise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Subject says all.That means of course no webmail in most cases.
But webmail is an abomination anyway, right?And that's why I'm Anonymous Coward here.
With no Javascript and no cookies I can't subscribe.I would otherwise.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424970</id>
	<title>clusty; whitelisting cookies</title>
	<author>bcrowell</author>
	<datestamp>1260697980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I do my searches using clusty.com rather than google, for exactly this reason.
In most cases, the search results are exactly the same quality as google's. It doesn't have certain specialized features that google has, e.g., book search and image search.
</p><p>
A simple way of enhancing your privacy is to set your firefox preferences so that it deletes all cookies when you exit the browser, except for cookies from a specified whitelist.  Edit : Preferences : privacy. Uncheck "accept third-party cookies." Firefox will: Use custom settings for history. Keep until: I close Firefox. Exceptions: [set your list of exceptions]
</p><p>
But basically, if you completely hitch your wagon to gmail, google docs, etc., then I don't see how you can expect to preserve your privacy from being invaded by google. Google is an advertising company, and their whole business model revolves around selling your eyeballs.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do my searches using clusty.com rather than google , for exactly this reason .
In most cases , the search results are exactly the same quality as google 's .
It does n't have certain specialized features that google has , e.g. , book search and image search .
A simple way of enhancing your privacy is to set your firefox preferences so that it deletes all cookies when you exit the browser , except for cookies from a specified whitelist .
Edit : Preferences : privacy .
Uncheck " accept third-party cookies .
" Firefox will : Use custom settings for history .
Keep until : I close Firefox .
Exceptions : [ set your list of exceptions ] But basically , if you completely hitch your wagon to gmail , google docs , etc. , then I do n't see how you can expect to preserve your privacy from being invaded by google .
Google is an advertising company , and their whole business model revolves around selling your eyeballs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I do my searches using clusty.com rather than google, for exactly this reason.
In most cases, the search results are exactly the same quality as google's.
It doesn't have certain specialized features that google has, e.g., book search and image search.
A simple way of enhancing your privacy is to set your firefox preferences so that it deletes all cookies when you exit the browser, except for cookies from a specified whitelist.
Edit : Preferences : privacy.
Uncheck "accept third-party cookies.
" Firefox will: Use custom settings for history.
Keep until: I close Firefox.
Exceptions: [set your list of exceptions]

But basically, if you completely hitch your wagon to gmail, google docs, etc., then I don't see how you can expect to preserve your privacy from being invaded by google.
Google is an advertising company, and their whole business model revolves around selling your eyeballs.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425054</id>
	<title>Don't use Gmail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260698640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>or if you do use gmail, encrypt everything you send with an external app, have all your emails forwarded to another non-gmail account. <br> <br>

Running your own email server isn't exactly hard as long as your ISP is willing to change your PTR record and give you a static IP. Well worth it even just for the gains in privacy. <br> <br>

For google search i would use an anonimisng proxy, run a http proxy (bandwidth limited) to muddle your searches in between other people's but you will get the much hated 'sorry, your computer is generating automated queries screen' and will sometimes have to enter a capcha in order to use google search the odd time</htmltext>
<tokenext>or if you do use gmail , encrypt everything you send with an external app , have all your emails forwarded to another non-gmail account .
Running your own email server is n't exactly hard as long as your ISP is willing to change your PTR record and give you a static IP .
Well worth it even just for the gains in privacy .
For google search i would use an anonimisng proxy , run a http proxy ( bandwidth limited ) to muddle your searches in between other people 's but you will get the much hated 'sorry , your computer is generating automated queries screen ' and will sometimes have to enter a capcha in order to use google search the odd time</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or if you do use gmail, encrypt everything you send with an external app, have all your emails forwarded to another non-gmail account.
Running your own email server isn't exactly hard as long as your ISP is willing to change your PTR record and give you a static IP.
Well worth it even just for the gains in privacy.
For google search i would use an anonimisng proxy, run a http proxy (bandwidth limited) to muddle your searches in between other people's but you will get the much hated 'sorry, your computer is generating automated queries screen' and will sometimes have to enter a capcha in order to use google search the odd time</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425314</id>
	<title>You don't</title>
	<author>pcause</author>
	<datestamp>1260700560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The best solution is not to use Google at all.  They are indexing your email and will figure out who you are and who youtalk to about what.  Use the calendar and they know where you are.  Add the 6 months of browser history and you're screwed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The best solution is not to use Google at all .
They are indexing your email and will figure out who you are and who youtalk to about what .
Use the calendar and they know where you are .
Add the 6 months of browser history and you 're screwed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The best solution is not to use Google at all.
They are indexing your email and will figure out who you are and who youtalk to about what.
Use the calendar and they know where you are.
Add the 6 months of browser history and you're screwed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424832</id>
	<title>Disable cookies</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260697140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, first thing would be to disable cookies for Google. I've done this long time ago because I got a bit scared of how much Google knows about me (search works fine without cookies, you can pass search preferences as URL parameters). Then I use a VPN that provides a random IP every time. I believe this should be enough to prevent them from identifying me and/or linking my searches. Right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , first thing would be to disable cookies for Google .
I 've done this long time ago because I got a bit scared of how much Google knows about me ( search works fine without cookies , you can pass search preferences as URL parameters ) .
Then I use a VPN that provides a random IP every time .
I believe this should be enough to prevent them from identifying me and/or linking my searches .
Right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, first thing would be to disable cookies for Google.
I've done this long time ago because I got a bit scared of how much Google knows about me (search works fine without cookies, you can pass search preferences as URL parameters).
Then I use a VPN that provides a random IP every time.
I believe this should be enough to prevent them from identifying me and/or linking my searches.
Right?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425712</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260703560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, people with nothing to hide love privacy. As Bruce Schneier has pointed out (years ago!), we close the door when we go to the bathroom; we tend to close the bedroom door when we make love. We don't tell people what color our underwear is today. And we never know when what we say today might be illegal tomorrow. Since the Internet never forgets, it is good to try and keep some bits of privacy left.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , people with nothing to hide love privacy .
As Bruce Schneier has pointed out ( years ago !
) , we close the door when we go to the bathroom ; we tend to close the bedroom door when we make love .
We do n't tell people what color our underwear is today .
And we never know when what we say today might be illegal tomorrow .
Since the Internet never forgets , it is good to try and keep some bits of privacy left .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, people with nothing to hide love privacy.
As Bruce Schneier has pointed out (years ago!
), we close the door when we go to the bathroom; we tend to close the bedroom door when we make love.
We don't tell people what color our underwear is today.
And we never know when what we say today might be illegal tomorrow.
Since the Internet never forgets, it is good to try and keep some bits of privacy left.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424982</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425040</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260698580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>There is *NOTHING* wrong with Firefox. </i></p><p>Firefox is a great program, but there are many things wrong with it.</p><p>My pet peeve is when you have 5 windows open, with 5 different web pages, <b>all</b> firefox windows will freeze if your DNS server takes a while to respond to a query. I can understand how one window with one webpage with the slow DNS query should pause (since firefox can't do much to display a webpage if it's waiting for the DNS server), but why all of them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is * NOTHING * wrong with Firefox .
Firefox is a great program , but there are many things wrong with it.My pet peeve is when you have 5 windows open , with 5 different web pages , all firefox windows will freeze if your DNS server takes a while to respond to a query .
I can understand how one window with one webpage with the slow DNS query should pause ( since firefox ca n't do much to display a webpage if it 's waiting for the DNS server ) , but why all of them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is *NOTHING* wrong with Firefox.
Firefox is a great program, but there are many things wrong with it.My pet peeve is when you have 5 windows open, with 5 different web pages, all firefox windows will freeze if your DNS server takes a while to respond to a query.
I can understand how one window with one webpage with the slow DNS query should pause (since firefox can't do much to display a webpage if it's waiting for the DNS server), but why all of them?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426248</id>
	<title>See your own Web History</title>
	<author>lone\_pawn</author>
	<datestamp>1260708240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you have a Google account, you can see what search data they have collected about you. Go to iGoogle, click on My Account link, then Web History.
You can request the data collection to stop, or remove the existing data. This of course assumes, that this really is all the web history they kept about you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you have a Google account , you can see what search data they have collected about you .
Go to iGoogle , click on My Account link , then Web History .
You can request the data collection to stop , or remove the existing data .
This of course assumes , that this really is all the web history they kept about you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you have a Google account, you can see what search data they have collected about you.
Go to iGoogle, click on My Account link, then Web History.
You can request the data collection to stop, or remove the existing data.
This of course assumes, that this really is all the web history they kept about you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425902</id>
	<title>Nate</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260705420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>meh, they're coming to get us all anyways, so why not embrace the inevitable!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>meh , they 're coming to get us all anyways , so why not embrace the inevitable !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>meh, they're coming to get us all anyways, so why not embrace the inevitable!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425064</id>
	<title>Try OptimizeGoogle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260698700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Try <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/52498" title="mozilla.org">OptimizeGoogle</a> [mozilla.org] (based on CustomizeGoogle). It has a great number of features, such as anonymizing your Google Cookie UID, blocking ads, removing click tracking, stopping cookies being sent to Google Analytics etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Try OptimizeGoogle [ mozilla.org ] ( based on CustomizeGoogle ) .
It has a great number of features , such as anonymizing your Google Cookie UID , blocking ads , removing click tracking , stopping cookies being sent to Google Analytics etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try OptimizeGoogle [mozilla.org] (based on CustomizeGoogle).
It has a great number of features, such as anonymizing your Google Cookie UID, blocking ads, removing click tracking, stopping cookies being sent to Google Analytics etc.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426458</id>
	<title>Me=Subby</title>
	<author>GNUALMAFUERTE</author>
	<datestamp>1260710700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use Google all the time. -&gt; Checked<br>I keep two GMail tabs open when I'm online (one is private, another is a corporate account) -&gt; Checked, Google for your domains + downloads POP3<br>I use Google search, and recently I switched to the Chromium browser. -&gt; Checked, few days ago<br>Google's services are fast, easy to use and usually reliable. -&gt; Agreed</p><p>How do I deal with it? I embrace it. And I keep 2 browsers open. 2nd one goes out through a proxy. 4chan and other undesirable browsing habits go there. I previously did this with 2 instances of firefox with different configs. Now I use Chrome for Public + Firefox for Private.</p><p>Problem solved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Google all the time .
- &gt; CheckedI keep two GMail tabs open when I 'm online ( one is private , another is a corporate account ) - &gt; Checked , Google for your domains + downloads POP3I use Google search , and recently I switched to the Chromium browser .
- &gt; Checked , few days agoGoogle 's services are fast , easy to use and usually reliable .
- &gt; AgreedHow do I deal with it ?
I embrace it .
And I keep 2 browsers open .
2nd one goes out through a proxy .
4chan and other undesirable browsing habits go there .
I previously did this with 2 instances of firefox with different configs .
Now I use Chrome for Public + Firefox for Private.Problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Google all the time.
-&gt; CheckedI keep two GMail tabs open when I'm online (one is private, another is a corporate account) -&gt; Checked, Google for your domains + downloads POP3I use Google search, and recently I switched to the Chromium browser.
-&gt; Checked, few days agoGoogle's services are fast, easy to use and usually reliable.
-&gt; AgreedHow do I deal with it?
I embrace it.
And I keep 2 browsers open.
2nd one goes out through a proxy.
4chan and other undesirable browsing habits go there.
I previously did this with 2 instances of firefox with different configs.
Now I use Chrome for Public + Firefox for Private.Problem solved.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425860</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260705120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would add to this that it isn't just individual data that matters in this case. If a government has access to just simple aggregate search query data, it can be used for tyranny as well.</p><p>A 30\% upsurge in certain dissenting search queries? Institute curfews. A 50\% upsurge? Martial Law.</p><p>There is no greater weapon in this world than information. Wars are won and lost by it, nations rise and fall by it and it's always those who have the least that bear the cost.</p><p>The only time privacy doesn't matter is when NO ONE has any. Unless you have all the data on the people in your government, they shouldn't have yours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would add to this that it is n't just individual data that matters in this case .
If a government has access to just simple aggregate search query data , it can be used for tyranny as well.A 30 \ % upsurge in certain dissenting search queries ?
Institute curfews .
A 50 \ % upsurge ?
Martial Law.There is no greater weapon in this world than information .
Wars are won and lost by it , nations rise and fall by it and it 's always those who have the least that bear the cost.The only time privacy does n't matter is when NO ONE has any .
Unless you have all the data on the people in your government , they should n't have yours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would add to this that it isn't just individual data that matters in this case.
If a government has access to just simple aggregate search query data, it can be used for tyranny as well.A 30\% upsurge in certain dissenting search queries?
Institute curfews.
A 50\% upsurge?
Martial Law.There is no greater weapon in this world than information.
Wars are won and lost by it, nations rise and fall by it and it's always those who have the least that bear the cost.The only time privacy doesn't matter is when NO ONE has any.
Unless you have all the data on the people in your government, they shouldn't have yours.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424964</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425542</id>
	<title>Here's what I do...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260702300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) Use different browser profiles for different web applications.</p><p>If you start firefox with these options: <b>-no-remote -ProfileManager</b> it will allow you to run multiple copies simultaneously, each with a separate profile (different set of cookies, different set of plugins, different skins, different bookmarks, different histories, etc).</p><p>I create a specific profile for each major web app - I have one for IMDB, one for google searches, one for google mail, one for google voice, etc.  And one for generic browsing.</p><p>Each profile has a couple of add-ons:<br> <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865" title="mozilla.org">Adblock Plus</a> [mozilla.org] - general catch-all to block things like doubleclick and the million other trackers<br> <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5207" title="mozilla.org">CookieSafe Lite</a> [mozilla.org] - for fine-grained control of what sites can set cookies<br> <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722" title="mozilla.org">NoScript</a> [mozilla.org] - for fine-grained control of what sites can use javascript and flash<br> <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/13246" title="mozilla.org">Redirect Cleaner</a> [mozilla.org] - for removing those "bounce links" that a lot of sites use to track you when you follow a URL off their site, with the cleaner you go directly to the destination URL<br> <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/953" title="mozilla.org">RefControl</a> [mozilla.org] - for clearing out or rewriting the referrer URL - prevents sites from knowing where you came from when you clicked a URL to their site, sometimes helpful in accessing poorly 'restricted' content<br> <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/11073" title="mozilla.org">Targetted Advertising Cookie Opt-Out</a> [mozilla.org] - sets special cookies that sites may choose to obey to say "don't profile me" since these TACOs are not unique-per-user, I figure it can't hurt although it probably doesn't do anything<br> <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59" title="mozilla.org">User Agent Switcher</a> [mozilla.org] - Lets your browser identify itself as a different browser - this is very important<br> <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9609" title="mozilla.org">Ghostery</a> [mozilla.org] - Informational Only - tells you what tracking sites may be tracking you on any given page (does not block them, and you get false alarms on sites where NoScript blocks javascript, but it is still good for situational awareness)<br> <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6623" title="mozilla.org">Better Privacy</a> [mozilla.org] - Blocks new stealth "super cookies" in Flash and DOM Storage Objects.  VERY IMPORTANT</p><p>Using the above plugins, I do the following in each profile:<br>1) Set NoScript to only allow javascript from the one website the profile is intended for - and block flash as much as possible regardless due to cross-profile flash cookies<br>2) Set CookieSafe that same way and then only for per-session cookies<br>3) Block and/or auto-delete Flash and DOM Storage cookies with Better Privacy - note flash cookies tend to be shared across all profiles because they go in a folder under "Documents &amp; Settings" on MS Windows and ~/.macromedia/ on Linux.  I am still looking at ways to force each profile to use a different directory for flash cookies - until then, block flash as much as possible and auto-delete cookies frequently<br>4) Set the User Agent to be different in each profile - this gives the appearance of multiple users behind a firewall which is key<br>5) Load a different theme or skin for each profile to make it easy to visually distinguish between windows so you don't accidentally start browsing the web from your gmail window or vice-versa</p><p>All that is a little bit of a pain to set up, an hour or two total.  But once in place, I think it is a reasonable compromise for reducing the risk of having your personally identifiable information gleaned in services like Google Mail from being automatically cross-referenced with your browsing habits.  I am considering taking it a step further with <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2464" title="mozilla.org">FoxyProxy</a> [mozilla.org] configurations to use</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Use different browser profiles for different web applications.If you start firefox with these options : -no-remote -ProfileManager it will allow you to run multiple copies simultaneously , each with a separate profile ( different set of cookies , different set of plugins , different skins , different bookmarks , different histories , etc ) .I create a specific profile for each major web app - I have one for IMDB , one for google searches , one for google mail , one for google voice , etc .
And one for generic browsing.Each profile has a couple of add-ons : Adblock Plus [ mozilla.org ] - general catch-all to block things like doubleclick and the million other trackers CookieSafe Lite [ mozilla.org ] - for fine-grained control of what sites can set cookies NoScript [ mozilla.org ] - for fine-grained control of what sites can use javascript and flash Redirect Cleaner [ mozilla.org ] - for removing those " bounce links " that a lot of sites use to track you when you follow a URL off their site , with the cleaner you go directly to the destination URL RefControl [ mozilla.org ] - for clearing out or rewriting the referrer URL - prevents sites from knowing where you came from when you clicked a URL to their site , sometimes helpful in accessing poorly 'restricted ' content Targetted Advertising Cookie Opt-Out [ mozilla.org ] - sets special cookies that sites may choose to obey to say " do n't profile me " since these TACOs are not unique-per-user , I figure it ca n't hurt although it probably does n't do anything User Agent Switcher [ mozilla.org ] - Lets your browser identify itself as a different browser - this is very important Ghostery [ mozilla.org ] - Informational Only - tells you what tracking sites may be tracking you on any given page ( does not block them , and you get false alarms on sites where NoScript blocks javascript , but it is still good for situational awareness ) Better Privacy [ mozilla.org ] - Blocks new stealth " super cookies " in Flash and DOM Storage Objects .
VERY IMPORTANTUsing the above plugins , I do the following in each profile : 1 ) Set NoScript to only allow javascript from the one website the profile is intended for - and block flash as much as possible regardless due to cross-profile flash cookies2 ) Set CookieSafe that same way and then only for per-session cookies3 ) Block and/or auto-delete Flash and DOM Storage cookies with Better Privacy - note flash cookies tend to be shared across all profiles because they go in a folder under " Documents &amp; Settings " on MS Windows and ~ /.macromedia/ on Linux .
I am still looking at ways to force each profile to use a different directory for flash cookies - until then , block flash as much as possible and auto-delete cookies frequently4 ) Set the User Agent to be different in each profile - this gives the appearance of multiple users behind a firewall which is key5 ) Load a different theme or skin for each profile to make it easy to visually distinguish between windows so you do n't accidentally start browsing the web from your gmail window or vice-versaAll that is a little bit of a pain to set up , an hour or two total .
But once in place , I think it is a reasonable compromise for reducing the risk of having your personally identifiable information gleaned in services like Google Mail from being automatically cross-referenced with your browsing habits .
I am considering taking it a step further with FoxyProxy [ mozilla.org ] configurations to use</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Use different browser profiles for different web applications.If you start firefox with these options: -no-remote -ProfileManager it will allow you to run multiple copies simultaneously, each with a separate profile (different set of cookies, different set of plugins, different skins, different bookmarks, different histories, etc).I create a specific profile for each major web app - I have one for IMDB, one for google searches, one for google mail, one for google voice, etc.
And one for generic browsing.Each profile has a couple of add-ons: Adblock Plus [mozilla.org] - general catch-all to block things like doubleclick and the million other trackers CookieSafe Lite [mozilla.org] - for fine-grained control of what sites can set cookies NoScript [mozilla.org] - for fine-grained control of what sites can use javascript and flash Redirect Cleaner [mozilla.org] - for removing those "bounce links" that a lot of sites use to track you when you follow a URL off their site, with the cleaner you go directly to the destination URL RefControl [mozilla.org] - for clearing out or rewriting the referrer URL - prevents sites from knowing where you came from when you clicked a URL to their site, sometimes helpful in accessing poorly 'restricted' content Targetted Advertising Cookie Opt-Out [mozilla.org] - sets special cookies that sites may choose to obey to say "don't profile me" since these TACOs are not unique-per-user, I figure it can't hurt although it probably doesn't do anything User Agent Switcher [mozilla.org] - Lets your browser identify itself as a different browser - this is very important Ghostery [mozilla.org] - Informational Only - tells you what tracking sites may be tracking you on any given page (does not block them, and you get false alarms on sites where NoScript blocks javascript, but it is still good for situational awareness) Better Privacy [mozilla.org] - Blocks new stealth "super cookies" in Flash and DOM Storage Objects.
VERY IMPORTANTUsing the above plugins, I do the following in each profile:1) Set NoScript to only allow javascript from the one website the profile is intended for - and block flash as much as possible regardless due to cross-profile flash cookies2) Set CookieSafe that same way and then only for per-session cookies3) Block and/or auto-delete Flash and DOM Storage cookies with Better Privacy - note flash cookies tend to be shared across all profiles because they go in a folder under "Documents &amp; Settings" on MS Windows and ~/.macromedia/ on Linux.
I am still looking at ways to force each profile to use a different directory for flash cookies - until then, block flash as much as possible and auto-delete cookies frequently4) Set the User Agent to be different in each profile - this gives the appearance of multiple users behind a firewall which is key5) Load a different theme or skin for each profile to make it easy to visually distinguish between windows so you don't accidentally start browsing the web from your gmail window or vice-versaAll that is a little bit of a pain to set up, an hour or two total.
But once in place, I think it is a reasonable compromise for reducing the risk of having your personally identifiable information gleaned in services like Google Mail from being automatically cross-referenced with your browsing habits.
I am considering taking it a step further with FoxyProxy [mozilla.org] configurations to use</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425380</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260701040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://www.optimizegoogle.com/ is updated and better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.optimizegoogle.com/ is updated and better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.optimizegoogle.com/ is updated and better.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424822</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425078</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260698820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's funny you should mention Jeeves, since the <a href="http://www.ask.com/" title="ask.com">site formerly known as Ask Jeeves</a> [ask.com] actually has better options for privacy (see the "AskEraser" feature in the upper right).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's funny you should mention Jeeves , since the site formerly known as Ask Jeeves [ ask.com ] actually has better options for privacy ( see the " AskEraser " feature in the upper right ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's funny you should mention Jeeves, since the site formerly known as Ask Jeeves [ask.com] actually has better options for privacy (see the "AskEraser" feature in the upper right).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425634</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260703020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sticking with the theme of Firefox extensions there is also customize google, it does more than search too.  <a href="http://www.customizegoogle.com/" title="customizegoogle.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.customizegoogle.com/</a> [customizegoogle.com]</p> </div><p>This has been out of dev for a while.  Someone else has taken over the project and since released it as optimizegoogle</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sticking with the theme of Firefox extensions there is also customize google , it does more than search too .
http : //www.customizegoogle.com/ [ customizegoogle.com ] This has been out of dev for a while .
Someone else has taken over the project and since released it as optimizegoogle</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sticking with the theme of Firefox extensions there is also customize google, it does more than search too.
http://www.customizegoogle.com/ [customizegoogle.com] This has been out of dev for a while.
Someone else has taken over the project and since released it as optimizegoogle
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424822</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424980</id>
	<title>Its the cost of admission...</title>
	<author>SuperCharlie</author>
	<datestamp>1260698040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nothing is free and if you use their services, your privacy, at least in part, is the cost. If the price is too high, go somewhere else.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nothing is free and if you use their services , your privacy , at least in part , is the cost .
If the price is too high , go somewhere else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nothing is free and if you use their services, your privacy, at least in part, is the cost.
If the price is too high, go somewhere else.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426230</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>wytcld</author>
	<datestamp>1260708060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's like when the space aliens take us up in their ships at night to do the cavity search, right? Most of use don't remember it - or at most have some weird, distorted dream-like images from it - and it doesn't particularly hurt there in the morning.</p><p>There may even be a tie-in. If you arrived here from an alien civilization, and wanted to contact the very nexus of intelligence on this planet, would your on-board AI send you to the White House (well, you might be curious about those signals you've picked up suggesting <i>Obama is an alien</i>)? the UN (yeah, right)? or<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Google HQ (bingo! most connected place on the planet)?</p><p>Could Google and the space aliens already be <i>cooperating</i> on your proctology?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's like when the space aliens take us up in their ships at night to do the cavity search , right ?
Most of use do n't remember it - or at most have some weird , distorted dream-like images from it - and it does n't particularly hurt there in the morning.There may even be a tie-in .
If you arrived here from an alien civilization , and wanted to contact the very nexus of intelligence on this planet , would your on-board AI send you to the White House ( well , you might be curious about those signals you 've picked up suggesting Obama is an alien ) ?
the UN ( yeah , right ) ?
or ... Google HQ ( bingo !
most connected place on the planet ) ? Could Google and the space aliens already be cooperating on your proctology ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's like when the space aliens take us up in their ships at night to do the cavity search, right?
Most of use don't remember it - or at most have some weird, distorted dream-like images from it - and it doesn't particularly hurt there in the morning.There may even be a tie-in.
If you arrived here from an alien civilization, and wanted to contact the very nexus of intelligence on this planet, would your on-board AI send you to the White House (well, you might be curious about those signals you've picked up suggesting Obama is an alien)?
the UN (yeah, right)?
or ... Google HQ (bingo!
most connected place on the planet)?Could Google and the space aliens already be cooperating on your proctology?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425174</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425404</id>
	<title>Use Scroogle for searches instead</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260701160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm surprised that no-one mentioned http://www.scroogle.org/ which carries out Google searches on your behalf.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm surprised that no-one mentioned http : //www.scroogle.org/ which carries out Google searches on your behalf .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm surprised that no-one mentioned http://www.scroogle.org/ which carries out Google searches on your behalf.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425168</id>
	<title>Use separate browsers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260699540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Use separate browsers for all your activities.</p><p>My current set up is all firefox, using profiles (-P profile on the commandline):</p><p>-1 browser for normal usage. Adblock plus with cookiesafe and noscript.<br>-1 browser for gmail. Adblock plus with cookiesafe and noscript. Never used for anything but gmail. Also uses --no-remote so no clicks from other windows can open a tab on this browser.<br>-1 browser for facebook. Adblock plus with cookiesafe and noscript. Never used for anything but facebook. Also uses --no-remote so no clicks from other windows can open a tab on this browser.</p><p>Do not click on links from your emails or facebook, copy and paste them to the "normal" browsesr.</p><p>By doing this, you'll be a lot harder (not impossible!) to track.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Use separate browsers for all your activities.My current set up is all firefox , using profiles ( -P profile on the commandline ) : -1 browser for normal usage .
Adblock plus with cookiesafe and noscript.-1 browser for gmail .
Adblock plus with cookiesafe and noscript .
Never used for anything but gmail .
Also uses --no-remote so no clicks from other windows can open a tab on this browser.-1 browser for facebook .
Adblock plus with cookiesafe and noscript .
Never used for anything but facebook .
Also uses --no-remote so no clicks from other windows can open a tab on this browser.Do not click on links from your emails or facebook , copy and paste them to the " normal " browsesr.By doing this , you 'll be a lot harder ( not impossible !
) to track .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use separate browsers for all your activities.My current set up is all firefox, using profiles (-P profile on the commandline):-1 browser for normal usage.
Adblock plus with cookiesafe and noscript.-1 browser for gmail.
Adblock plus with cookiesafe and noscript.
Never used for anything but gmail.
Also uses --no-remote so no clicks from other windows can open a tab on this browser.-1 browser for facebook.
Adblock plus with cookiesafe and noscript.
Never used for anything but facebook.
Also uses --no-remote so no clicks from other windows can open a tab on this browser.Do not click on links from your emails or facebook, copy and paste them to the "normal" browsesr.By doing this, you'll be a lot harder (not impossible!
) to track.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428450</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260732000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Using adblock is the entirely wrong approach. Actually he should click every single ad they serve him thus generating high revenue of advertisers. That way Google won't have the need to intrude his privacy any further and can remain to do no obvious evil!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Using adblock is the entirely wrong approach .
Actually he should click every single ad they serve him thus generating high revenue of advertisers .
That way Google wo n't have the need to intrude his privacy any further and can remain to do no obvious evil !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Using adblock is the entirely wrong approach.
Actually he should click every single ad they serve him thus generating high revenue of advertisers.
That way Google won't have the need to intrude his privacy any further and can remain to do no obvious evil!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30429044</id>
	<title>IE8 InPrivate</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260784860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IE8 has InPrivate browsing (aka Porn Mode) which blocks all cookies/history/etc.  Other than IP tracking, this will stop Google keeping your history.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IE8 has InPrivate browsing ( aka Porn Mode ) which blocks all cookies/history/etc .
Other than IP tracking , this will stop Google keeping your history .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IE8 has InPrivate browsing (aka Porn Mode) which blocks all cookies/history/etc.
Other than IP tracking, this will stop Google keeping your history.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425088</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Tranzistors</author>
	<datestamp>1260698940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>How do I remain anonymous from my butler[..]?</p></div></blockquote><p>Google is not a butler, more like anonymous service provider, like train ticket seller or waitress. With people it is simple - each of them don't know much about you and they forget. It is hard to do data mining on people and there is the privacy.</p><p>Now imagine, that every person that services you is the same person, who doesn't forget. The guy who serves food on the table for you and your spouse is the same, who sold you fetish porn 10 years ago (and remembers it was you).</p><p>Back to butlers, yes, they are creepy and judging from British crime novels - serious threat to privacy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How do I remain anonymous from my butler [ .. ] ? Google is not a butler , more like anonymous service provider , like train ticket seller or waitress .
With people it is simple - each of them do n't know much about you and they forget .
It is hard to do data mining on people and there is the privacy.Now imagine , that every person that services you is the same person , who does n't forget .
The guy who serves food on the table for you and your spouse is the same , who sold you fetish porn 10 years ago ( and remembers it was you ) .Back to butlers , yes , they are creepy and judging from British crime novels - serious threat to privacy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do I remain anonymous from my butler[..]?Google is not a butler, more like anonymous service provider, like train ticket seller or waitress.
With people it is simple - each of them don't know much about you and they forget.
It is hard to do data mining on people and there is the privacy.Now imagine, that every person that services you is the same person, who doesn't forget.
The guy who serves food on the table for you and your spouse is the same, who sold you fetish porn 10 years ago (and remembers it was you).Back to butlers, yes, they are creepy and judging from British crime novels - serious threat to privacy.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425164</id>
	<title>Teh GOBERMENT will get us!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260699540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Honestly, while Schmidt's comments seem scary, they are right. If you are highly concerned about privacy, maybe you should not use a free online mail service that is payed for by the advertising and marketing information it provides to it's operator. Maybe for the stuff you are really concerned about, you should use hushmail.</p><p>That being said, realize that most of Slashdotter's are paranoid as fuck. Honestly, if Google ever gave out access to my data, it would be bad news for me. Same thing goes for Facebook chat and many other activities. Also, if any of those servers I played with in my script kiddy days turned out to be a honeypot.</p><p>Honestly, get over it: you are a bunch of paranoid crazies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Honestly , while Schmidt 's comments seem scary , they are right .
If you are highly concerned about privacy , maybe you should not use a free online mail service that is payed for by the advertising and marketing information it provides to it 's operator .
Maybe for the stuff you are really concerned about , you should use hushmail.That being said , realize that most of Slashdotter 's are paranoid as fuck .
Honestly , if Google ever gave out access to my data , it would be bad news for me .
Same thing goes for Facebook chat and many other activities .
Also , if any of those servers I played with in my script kiddy days turned out to be a honeypot.Honestly , get over it : you are a bunch of paranoid crazies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Honestly, while Schmidt's comments seem scary, they are right.
If you are highly concerned about privacy, maybe you should not use a free online mail service that is payed for by the advertising and marketing information it provides to it's operator.
Maybe for the stuff you are really concerned about, you should use hushmail.That being said, realize that most of Slashdotter's are paranoid as fuck.
Honestly, if Google ever gave out access to my data, it would be bad news for me.
Same thing goes for Facebook chat and many other activities.
Also, if any of those servers I played with in my script kiddy days turned out to be a honeypot.Honestly, get over it: you are a bunch of paranoid crazies.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30427008</id>
	<title>about the google</title>
	<author>pizzap</author>
	<datestamp>1260715200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, we don't  know which data of your requests they really use. Of course there is googles own privacy information, then there is the stuff they may not tell you about. And finally there is stuff third parties might do with your google data, these may include your provider, using traffic inspection and your government using the patriot act or something.<br>Third parties usually know even more about you than google, your real name, banking informaiton and such.</p><p>About your privacy regarding google itself:<br>I'd advise on using multiple browsers, or profiles, so you can divide your gmail stuff from the search cookies. Firefox has an option to keep cookies until closed, you'll get a fresh cookie from google on every browser start.</p><p>In firefox there are also seach suggestion and 'safebrowsing' queries to google.</p><p>But to be honest I don't expect google to keep an (ip, cookie, account) database and I don't expect them to cross relate too much data between their services. Adwords aren't that complicated, you don't need that much information to target ads.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , we do n't know which data of your requests they really use .
Of course there is googles own privacy information , then there is the stuff they may not tell you about .
And finally there is stuff third parties might do with your google data , these may include your provider , using traffic inspection and your government using the patriot act or something.Third parties usually know even more about you than google , your real name , banking informaiton and such.About your privacy regarding google itself : I 'd advise on using multiple browsers , or profiles , so you can divide your gmail stuff from the search cookies .
Firefox has an option to keep cookies until closed , you 'll get a fresh cookie from google on every browser start.In firefox there are also seach suggestion and 'safebrowsing ' queries to google.But to be honest I do n't expect google to keep an ( ip , cookie , account ) database and I do n't expect them to cross relate too much data between their services .
Adwords are n't that complicated , you do n't need that much information to target ads .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, we don't  know which data of your requests they really use.
Of course there is googles own privacy information, then there is the stuff they may not tell you about.
And finally there is stuff third parties might do with your google data, these may include your provider, using traffic inspection and your government using the patriot act or something.Third parties usually know even more about you than google, your real name, banking informaiton and such.About your privacy regarding google itself:I'd advise on using multiple browsers, or profiles, so you can divide your gmail stuff from the search cookies.
Firefox has an option to keep cookies until closed, you'll get a fresh cookie from google on every browser start.In firefox there are also seach suggestion and 'safebrowsing' queries to google.But to be honest I don't expect google to keep an (ip, cookie, account) database and I don't expect them to cross relate too much data between their services.
Adwords aren't that complicated, you don't need that much information to target ads.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424866</id>
	<title>Use Scroogle.org</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260697320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use the cool firefox addon at: scroogle.org and obviously adblock plus that gets rid of those annoying ads. If you ask me I still try to figure out WHO on earth clicks on them, but this aside...</p><p>I've using the thing at scroogle.org for a few years now and a part from not being traceable by google while logged on gmail you get the first 100 results for a query that's a distinctive plus to me.</p><p>HTH</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use the cool firefox addon at : scroogle.org and obviously adblock plus that gets rid of those annoying ads .
If you ask me I still try to figure out WHO on earth clicks on them , but this aside...I 've using the thing at scroogle.org for a few years now and a part from not being traceable by google while logged on gmail you get the first 100 results for a query that 's a distinctive plus to me.HTH</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use the cool firefox addon at: scroogle.org and obviously adblock plus that gets rid of those annoying ads.
If you ask me I still try to figure out WHO on earth clicks on them, but this aside...I've using the thing at scroogle.org for a few years now and a part from not being traceable by google while logged on gmail you get the first 100 results for a query that's a distinctive plus to me.HTH</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425150</id>
	<title>Not easy</title>
	<author>russotto</author>
	<datestamp>1260699420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's no way you can use Google all day from your own computer and have your searches remain anonymous; you're going to, in the normal course of doing things, do searches which can be traced back to you.  And there's no way to type "how to blow goats" into any google search box without google knowing that someone is interested in blowing goats.  The only way to keep stuff private from Google is not to search for it (or use other Google services).  The only way to keep stuff anonymous is to completely separate that stuff from other things you do.  Which means at the least not doing it from your computer or any computer or network traceable to you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's no way you can use Google all day from your own computer and have your searches remain anonymous ; you 're going to , in the normal course of doing things , do searches which can be traced back to you .
And there 's no way to type " how to blow goats " into any google search box without google knowing that someone is interested in blowing goats .
The only way to keep stuff private from Google is not to search for it ( or use other Google services ) .
The only way to keep stuff anonymous is to completely separate that stuff from other things you do .
Which means at the least not doing it from your computer or any computer or network traceable to you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's no way you can use Google all day from your own computer and have your searches remain anonymous; you're going to, in the normal course of doing things, do searches which can be traced back to you.
And there's no way to type "how to blow goats" into any google search box without google knowing that someone is interested in blowing goats.
The only way to keep stuff private from Google is not to search for it (or use other Google services).
The only way to keep stuff anonymous is to completely separate that stuff from other things you do.
Which means at the least not doing it from your computer or any computer or network traceable to you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30441402</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260910500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For those interested....</p><p>try  "Scroogle Scraper"</p><p>http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm</p><p>Its an actuall search engine that does not keep records of web searches.</p><p>For more details check out:    http://www.scroogle.org/</p><p>Feel free to make your own judgements of it. I get nothing out of posting this.<br>Take care, and lets keep the net free as long as possible!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For those interested....try " Scroogle Scraper " http : //www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htmIts an actuall search engine that does not keep records of web searches.For more details check out : http : //www.scroogle.org/Feel free to make your own judgements of it .
I get nothing out of posting this.Take care , and lets keep the net free as long as possible !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For those interested....try  "Scroogle Scraper"http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htmIts an actuall search engine that does not keep records of web searches.For more details check out:    http://www.scroogle.org/Feel free to make your own judgements of it.
I get nothing out of posting this.Take care, and lets keep the net free as long as possible!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424886</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30427812</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260723600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Precisely. The short short answer: you don't (keep your privacy).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Precisely .
The short short answer : you do n't ( keep your privacy ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Precisely.
The short short answer: you don't (keep your privacy).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424886</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30446942</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>gabec</author>
	<datestamp>1260902520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>RE: "Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you don't have anything to hide.. who cares"</p><p>That is, of course, the crux of the privacy argument and even exactly the sentiment Eric Schmidt was expressing: "Only bad people want privacy."</p><p>Even defending those that want privacy is hard to express. Why would you want privacy? What do you have to hide that you don't want known?</p><p>So here are a few off-the-cuff points for privacy:</p><p>* There's a quote out there (google it--lol) that goes along the lines of "You don't need privacy to protect you from the government you have today, you want privacy to protect you from the government it may become."</p><p>* People's ideas of what's acceptable to share are different depending on the times. Maybe a miniskirt is no big thing today. Maybe by the time she's running for senate miniskirt=whore. Maybe you comment on a friend's private facebook account. Maybe last week Facebook just made all that very, very public (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/12/13/2028219/Facebook-Founders-Pictures-Go-Public).</p><p>* On the last vein, Do you think if today were 1929 you'd hesitate to put that you were Jewish on your online profile?</p><p>* Even publicly making a stance on pro/anti online privacy costs you in some way. Certainly anyone pro-privacy had better have a squeaky clean past present and future. After all, anyone that uses scroogle.com and the like are exactly the wingnuts you'd want to track, right?</p><p>Nobody can see into the future far enough to know just what they'll regret, and just what it will cost them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>RE : " Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you do n't have anything to hide.. who cares " That is , of course , the crux of the privacy argument and even exactly the sentiment Eric Schmidt was expressing : " Only bad people want privacy .
" Even defending those that want privacy is hard to express .
Why would you want privacy ?
What do you have to hide that you do n't want known ? So here are a few off-the-cuff points for privacy : * There 's a quote out there ( google it--lol ) that goes along the lines of " You do n't need privacy to protect you from the government you have today , you want privacy to protect you from the government it may become .
" * People 's ideas of what 's acceptable to share are different depending on the times .
Maybe a miniskirt is no big thing today .
Maybe by the time she 's running for senate miniskirt = whore .
Maybe you comment on a friend 's private facebook account .
Maybe last week Facebook just made all that very , very public ( http : //yro.slashdot.org/story/09/12/13/2028219/Facebook-Founders-Pictures-Go-Public ) .
* On the last vein , Do you think if today were 1929 you 'd hesitate to put that you were Jewish on your online profile ?
* Even publicly making a stance on pro/anti online privacy costs you in some way .
Certainly anyone pro-privacy had better have a squeaky clean past present and future .
After all , anyone that uses scroogle.com and the like are exactly the wingnuts you 'd want to track , right ? Nobody can see into the future far enough to know just what they 'll regret , and just what it will cost them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RE: "Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you don't have anything to hide.. who cares"That is, of course, the crux of the privacy argument and even exactly the sentiment Eric Schmidt was expressing: "Only bad people want privacy.
"Even defending those that want privacy is hard to express.
Why would you want privacy?
What do you have to hide that you don't want known?So here are a few off-the-cuff points for privacy:* There's a quote out there (google it--lol) that goes along the lines of "You don't need privacy to protect you from the government you have today, you want privacy to protect you from the government it may become.
"* People's ideas of what's acceptable to share are different depending on the times.
Maybe a miniskirt is no big thing today.
Maybe by the time she's running for senate miniskirt=whore.
Maybe you comment on a friend's private facebook account.
Maybe last week Facebook just made all that very, very public (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/12/13/2028219/Facebook-Founders-Pictures-Go-Public).
* On the last vein, Do you think if today were 1929 you'd hesitate to put that you were Jewish on your online profile?
* Even publicly making a stance on pro/anti online privacy costs you in some way.
Certainly anyone pro-privacy had better have a squeaky clean past present and future.
After all, anyone that uses scroogle.com and the like are exactly the wingnuts you'd want to track, right?Nobody can see into the future far enough to know just what they'll regret, and just what it will cost them.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425188</id>
	<title>ipv6</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260699660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If all google services run on ipv6 now, just use a tunnel broker. If you have a public ip address, get a tunnelbroker.net account; you can create and tear down tunnels on demand. Otherwise, use gogo6.com and its client, or even better, log in anonymously. Both ways will hide your real ipv4 ip behind the tunnel broker service, and also give you paranoid IP hopping capability.</p><p>Also, rfc4941 "privacy extensions" produce an ipv6 address with a randomized suffix, and the system can prefer this addres when making outgoing connections. It's enabled on vista and above by default. This should confuse IP tracking code that is unaware of this feature.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If all google services run on ipv6 now , just use a tunnel broker .
If you have a public ip address , get a tunnelbroker.net account ; you can create and tear down tunnels on demand .
Otherwise , use gogo6.com and its client , or even better , log in anonymously .
Both ways will hide your real ipv4 ip behind the tunnel broker service , and also give you paranoid IP hopping capability.Also , rfc4941 " privacy extensions " produce an ipv6 address with a randomized suffix , and the system can prefer this addres when making outgoing connections .
It 's enabled on vista and above by default .
This should confuse IP tracking code that is unaware of this feature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If all google services run on ipv6 now, just use a tunnel broker.
If you have a public ip address, get a tunnelbroker.net account; you can create and tear down tunnels on demand.
Otherwise, use gogo6.com and its client, or even better, log in anonymously.
Both ways will hide your real ipv4 ip behind the tunnel broker service, and also give you paranoid IP hopping capability.Also, rfc4941 "privacy extensions" produce an ipv6 address with a randomized suffix, and the system can prefer this addres when making outgoing connections.
It's enabled on vista and above by default.
This should confuse IP tracking code that is unaware of this feature.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425174</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>TubeSteak</author>
	<datestamp>1260699540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Welcome to the new Slashdot, where everything Google does is great, and only people with something to hide would care about privacy.</p></div><p>For people who don't 'get it', compare the situation to getting frisked by the police.<br>The principle is exactly the same, but the practical difference is that Google's invasion of privacy<br>causes you no inconvienence... which somehow makes it okay. Out of sight, out of mind.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to the new Slashdot , where everything Google does is great , and only people with something to hide would care about privacy.For people who do n't 'get it ' , compare the situation to getting frisked by the police.The principle is exactly the same , but the practical difference is that Google 's invasion of privacycauses you no inconvienence... which somehow makes it okay .
Out of sight , out of mind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to the new Slashdot, where everything Google does is great, and only people with something to hide would care about privacy.For people who don't 'get it', compare the situation to getting frisked by the police.The principle is exactly the same, but the practical difference is that Google's invasion of privacycauses you no inconvienence... which somehow makes it okay.
Out of sight, out of mind.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424982</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425256</id>
	<title>Use multiple browsers</title>
	<author>MarkWatson</author>
	<datestamp>1260700140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For years, I have used one browser (Safari) for nothing but online banking. I now use Chrome for all google related browsing (GMail+Google Apps, Blogger, Reader).</p><p>I do all other browsing on Firefox, blocking Google and most other cookies.</p><p>This is slightly inconvenient because if someone emails me a link, I need to copy and paste it into Firefox - probably copy/paste links between Chrome and Firefox about 5 to 10 times a day so this is a small overhead.</p><p>I usually use Google Search (on Firefox), but I also use Clusty and Bing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For years , I have used one browser ( Safari ) for nothing but online banking .
I now use Chrome for all google related browsing ( GMail + Google Apps , Blogger , Reader ) .I do all other browsing on Firefox , blocking Google and most other cookies.This is slightly inconvenient because if someone emails me a link , I need to copy and paste it into Firefox - probably copy/paste links between Chrome and Firefox about 5 to 10 times a day so this is a small overhead.I usually use Google Search ( on Firefox ) , but I also use Clusty and Bing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For years, I have used one browser (Safari) for nothing but online banking.
I now use Chrome for all google related browsing (GMail+Google Apps, Blogger, Reader).I do all other browsing on Firefox, blocking Google and most other cookies.This is slightly inconvenient because if someone emails me a link, I need to copy and paste it into Firefox - probably copy/paste links between Chrome and Firefox about 5 to 10 times a day so this is a small overhead.I usually use Google Search (on Firefox), but I also use Clusty and Bing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</id>
	<title>You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260696900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you don't have anything to hide.. who cares</p><p>It's not that black and white.. but chances are unless you have some very disturbing fetish.. chances are "the stuff you don't want your boss to know" is fairly similar to 10 million other people.. to the point where you are just a tiny blip in a stats bucket. Your just search #234521 for "sex with staplers".</p><p>They arn't publishing your search history in the newspaper<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. they are using it to increment a counter that you might be interested in office supply ads.</p><p>If you are really paranoid though.. use adblock.. route everything through tor.. disable cookies.. and be sure to encrypt your hard-drive with a 20 gazillion bit cypher.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you do n't have anything to hide.. who caresIt 's not that black and white.. but chances are unless you have some very disturbing fetish.. chances are " the stuff you do n't want your boss to know " is fairly similar to 10 million other people.. to the point where you are just a tiny blip in a stats bucket .
Your just search # 234521 for " sex with staplers " .They ar n't publishing your search history in the newspaper .. they are using it to increment a counter that you might be interested in office supply ads.If you are really paranoid though.. use adblock.. route everything through tor.. disable cookies.. and be sure to encrypt your hard-drive with a 20 gazillion bit cypher .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you don't have anything to hide.. who caresIt's not that black and white.. but chances are unless you have some very disturbing fetish.. chances are "the stuff you don't want your boss to know" is fairly similar to 10 million other people.. to the point where you are just a tiny blip in a stats bucket.
Your just search #234521 for "sex with staplers".They arn't publishing your search history in the newspaper .. they are using it to increment a counter that you might be interested in office supply ads.If you are really paranoid though.. use adblock.. route everything through tor.. disable cookies.. and be sure to encrypt your hard-drive with a 20 gazillion bit cypher.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430324</id>
	<title>1984</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260802380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I always remember thinking it was very strange how the subjects not only reluctively put up with the Big Brother but how they actually <i>loved</i> him. People <i>love</i> Google...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I always remember thinking it was very strange how the subjects not only reluctively put up with the Big Brother but how they actually loved him .
People love Google.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always remember thinking it was very strange how the subjects not only reluctively put up with the Big Brother but how they actually loved him.
People love Google...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424808</id>
	<title>What's the big deal?</title>
	<author>White Shade</author>
	<datestamp>1260697020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess in the end I fail to see what the big deal is.</p><p>As long as Google isn't selling my financial data to unscrupulous persons and having me get billed all kinds of money for things I don't want, or creating a dossier on all the weird shit I've searched for and forwarding it to my boss, what's the big deal?</p><p>So what if some marketers know everything about what I like to buy or look for? How, in the end, does that really affect my life? Yes, it's a bit creepy sometimes, but it makes no impact on my quality of life.</p><p>What *does* freak me out is how my credit card company can ask me to confirm my height and weight when I talk to them on the phone, and when I ask them how the f**k they found out how much I weigh, they tell me that by law they're allowed to download all the information from the Department of Transit and so they know everything that's on my drivers license. THAT's the kind of stuff that I find extremely scary, and that's the kind of thing you can't do anything at all to prevent other than living in a shack in the mountains somewhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess in the end I fail to see what the big deal is.As long as Google is n't selling my financial data to unscrupulous persons and having me get billed all kinds of money for things I do n't want , or creating a dossier on all the weird shit I 've searched for and forwarding it to my boss , what 's the big deal ? So what if some marketers know everything about what I like to buy or look for ?
How , in the end , does that really affect my life ?
Yes , it 's a bit creepy sometimes , but it makes no impact on my quality of life.What * does * freak me out is how my credit card company can ask me to confirm my height and weight when I talk to them on the phone , and when I ask them how the f * * k they found out how much I weigh , they tell me that by law they 're allowed to download all the information from the Department of Transit and so they know everything that 's on my drivers license .
THAT 's the kind of stuff that I find extremely scary , and that 's the kind of thing you ca n't do anything at all to prevent other than living in a shack in the mountains somewhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess in the end I fail to see what the big deal is.As long as Google isn't selling my financial data to unscrupulous persons and having me get billed all kinds of money for things I don't want, or creating a dossier on all the weird shit I've searched for and forwarding it to my boss, what's the big deal?So what if some marketers know everything about what I like to buy or look for?
How, in the end, does that really affect my life?
Yes, it's a bit creepy sometimes, but it makes no impact on my quality of life.What *does* freak me out is how my credit card company can ask me to confirm my height and weight when I talk to them on the phone, and when I ask them how the f**k they found out how much I weigh, they tell me that by law they're allowed to download all the information from the Department of Transit and so they know everything that's on my drivers license.
THAT's the kind of stuff that I find extremely scary, and that's the kind of thing you can't do anything at all to prevent other than living in a shack in the mountains somewhere.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425198</id>
	<title>1 simple rule for online privacy</title>
	<author>petes\_PoV</author>
	<datestamp>1260699720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>use a false name.
<p>
Apart from shopping transactions and your "home" ISP, there's no need for any website to know the name that's on your passport or birth certificate. Not even the same nationality (there's a reason why <i>Afghanistan</i> is the first country on country selection dropdowns - use it) or gender. After all a name is merely a tag, there's no reason to go through your whole life with just one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>use a false name .
Apart from shopping transactions and your " home " ISP , there 's no need for any website to know the name that 's on your passport or birth certificate .
Not even the same nationality ( there 's a reason why Afghanistan is the first country on country selection dropdowns - use it ) or gender .
After all a name is merely a tag , there 's no reason to go through your whole life with just one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>use a false name.
Apart from shopping transactions and your "home" ISP, there's no need for any website to know the name that's on your passport or birth certificate.
Not even the same nationality (there's a reason why Afghanistan is the first country on country selection dropdowns - use it) or gender.
After all a name is merely a tag, there's no reason to go through your whole life with just one.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425002</id>
	<title>Dashboard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260698280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i'm not sure if it really takes the data off of googles servers, but you can google "google dashboard" and see what is going on there. also go to "web history" and you can remove searches and sites etc. again, not sure if it takes data off of their servers, but its doing something</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i 'm not sure if it really takes the data off of googles servers , but you can google " google dashboard " and see what is going on there .
also go to " web history " and you can remove searches and sites etc .
again , not sure if it takes data off of their servers , but its doing something</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i'm not sure if it really takes the data off of googles servers, but you can google "google dashboard" and see what is going on there.
also go to "web history" and you can remove searches and sites etc.
again, not sure if it takes data off of their servers, but its doing something</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426196</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Deanalator</author>
	<datestamp>1260707700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do they need to share it with agencies?  Try to make a search query over SSL, no major search engine supports it.  That means numerous parties in between you and the search engines are easily able to track your searches.  The only search engine I know of that will let you do an ssl search is scroogle.</p><p>The crazy thing is that you can surf google via SSL all you want, but the moment you try to make send a query, it will downgrade your connection to HTTP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do they need to share it with agencies ?
Try to make a search query over SSL , no major search engine supports it .
That means numerous parties in between you and the search engines are easily able to track your searches .
The only search engine I know of that will let you do an ssl search is scroogle.The crazy thing is that you can surf google via SSL all you want , but the moment you try to make send a query , it will downgrade your connection to HTTP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do they need to share it with agencies?
Try to make a search query over SSL, no major search engine supports it.
That means numerous parties in between you and the search engines are easily able to track your searches.
The only search engine I know of that will let you do an ssl search is scroogle.The crazy thing is that you can surf google via SSL all you want, but the moment you try to make send a query, it will downgrade your connection to HTTP.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424964</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425492</id>
	<title>IMAP?</title>
	<author>Disfnord</author>
	<datestamp>1260701820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>GMail has supported IMAP and POP3 for a while now, just use an email client and you won't have to actually log in to google in your web browser.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>GMail has supported IMAP and POP3 for a while now , just use an email client and you wo n't have to actually log in to google in your web browser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GMail has supported IMAP and POP3 for a while now, just use an email client and you won't have to actually log in to google in your web browser.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426206</id>
	<title>"BFilter" does a fair job</title>
	<author>gedw99</author>
	<datestamp>1260707760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"BFilter" does a fair job of removing so of the things people have listed above. For example:
ads, google analytics, etc.

I have been using it for 6 months, and it does work well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" BFilter " does a fair job of removing so of the things people have listed above .
For example : ads , google analytics , etc .
I have been using it for 6 months , and it does work well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"BFilter" does a fair job of removing so of the things people have listed above.
For example:
ads, google analytics, etc.
I have been using it for 6 months, and it does work well.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30434034</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>ThatsNotPudding</author>
	<datestamp>1260820620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. <b>if you don't have anything to hide</b>.. who cares</p></div></blockquote><p>Unless you are a devout nudist, you should be forced to wear a scarlet letter H for hypocrite.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you do n't have anything to hide.. who caresUnless you are a devout nudist , you should be forced to wear a scarlet letter H for hypocrite .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you don't have anything to hide.. who caresUnless you are a devout nudist, you should be forced to wear a scarlet letter H for hypocrite.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424818</id>
	<title>Easy.</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1260697080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Block Javascript, block all Google cookies, have no Google accounts.  Occasionally permit scripts and cookies for long enough to look at a map (oh, and also block all advertising with Privoxy).</p><p>Works for me, but I don't think I'm quite Google's idea of an ideal user (that's *user*, not *customer*).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Block Javascript , block all Google cookies , have no Google accounts .
Occasionally permit scripts and cookies for long enough to look at a map ( oh , and also block all advertising with Privoxy ) .Works for me , but I do n't think I 'm quite Google 's idea of an ideal user ( that 's * user * , not * customer * ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Block Javascript, block all Google cookies, have no Google accounts.
Occasionally permit scripts and cookies for long enough to look at a map (oh, and also block all advertising with Privoxy).Works for me, but I don't think I'm quite Google's idea of an ideal user (that's *user*, not *customer*).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430806</id>
	<title>the best tcpip-tarded business plans</title>
	<author>myspace-cn</author>
	<datestamp>1260805200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Quote From The Article:<br>" "I use Google all the time. I keep two GMail tabs open when I'm online (one is private, another is a corporate account), "</p><p>The first thing I find myself asking is....<br>Your using Webmail for Corporate Business?  Wow, Good thing I am not your CEO.</p><p>Second, thing.. It's a Free Service on servers someone else owns, the short answer is you can't keep your privacy!</p><p>But here's the fun answer.  Gotta have fun...<br>Ever hear of pop 3? (okay okay technically Google sets up different ports and settings)<br>even grandpa (RIP) used to use Eudora in dos/win 3.1 with HTML turned off</p><p>POP 3/SMTP your mail (on whatever ports the service uses)</p><p>ban all forms of webmail, Turn Off html in your mail client<br>Or eventually get hit by worms . I know of "nobody" who uses html on or<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/webmail mail who hasn't gotten hit by worms. If you use stupid settings like these, you will get hit too. It might not matter when all you have is a browser and 10 apps, but if it takes you 4 months to build a workstation, such nonsense as webmail or html on wouldn't be tolerated by myself, not to mention the question of how your managing all your passwords, anyway, it sounds like you need to just sit down, and design a security / backup plan, cause the road your headed on is going to have bumps.  Your not going to look smart when you need to print an invoice but your workstations are down cause you have a webmail virus to clean up.  LOL</p><p>Quote From The Article:<br>"how do I stay anonymous to Google while using their services?"</p><p>A Wireless Connection going through TOR and Seven Proxies might help, oops we forgot your DNS leak...Se La Vie</p><p>Let me see, your getting a "free service" and you have applied some of that freeness to a "corporate account", and now your just finding out your going to pay for it with your ip address and statistics. I have to say, this isn't a problem with Google, it's a problem with your basic understanding of TCPIP, and business in general, if not an outright gap in reality.   I'll bite the last assumption since I don't know ya, but not the others..</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Quote From The Article : " " I use Google all the time .
I keep two GMail tabs open when I 'm online ( one is private , another is a corporate account ) , " The first thing I find myself asking is....Your using Webmail for Corporate Business ?
Wow , Good thing I am not your CEO.Second , thing.. It 's a Free Service on servers someone else owns , the short answer is you ca n't keep your privacy ! But here 's the fun answer .
Got ta have fun...Ever hear of pop 3 ?
( okay okay technically Google sets up different ports and settings ) even grandpa ( RIP ) used to use Eudora in dos/win 3.1 with HTML turned offPOP 3/SMTP your mail ( on whatever ports the service uses ) ban all forms of webmail , Turn Off html in your mail clientOr eventually get hit by worms .
I know of " nobody " who uses html on or /webmail mail who has n't gotten hit by worms .
If you use stupid settings like these , you will get hit too .
It might not matter when all you have is a browser and 10 apps , but if it takes you 4 months to build a workstation , such nonsense as webmail or html on would n't be tolerated by myself , not to mention the question of how your managing all your passwords , anyway , it sounds like you need to just sit down , and design a security / backup plan , cause the road your headed on is going to have bumps .
Your not going to look smart when you need to print an invoice but your workstations are down cause you have a webmail virus to clean up .
LOLQuote From The Article : " how do I stay anonymous to Google while using their services ?
" A Wireless Connection going through TOR and Seven Proxies might help , oops we forgot your DNS leak...Se La VieLet me see , your getting a " free service " and you have applied some of that freeness to a " corporate account " , and now your just finding out your going to pay for it with your ip address and statistics .
I have to say , this is n't a problem with Google , it 's a problem with your basic understanding of TCPIP , and business in general , if not an outright gap in reality .
I 'll bite the last assumption since I do n't know ya , but not the others. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quote From The Article:" "I use Google all the time.
I keep two GMail tabs open when I'm online (one is private, another is a corporate account), "The first thing I find myself asking is....Your using Webmail for Corporate Business?
Wow, Good thing I am not your CEO.Second, thing.. It's a Free Service on servers someone else owns, the short answer is you can't keep your privacy!But here's the fun answer.
Gotta have fun...Ever hear of pop 3?
(okay okay technically Google sets up different ports and settings)even grandpa (RIP) used to use Eudora in dos/win 3.1 with HTML turned offPOP 3/SMTP your mail (on whatever ports the service uses)ban all forms of webmail, Turn Off html in your mail clientOr eventually get hit by worms .
I know of "nobody" who uses html on or /webmail mail who hasn't gotten hit by worms.
If you use stupid settings like these, you will get hit too.
It might not matter when all you have is a browser and 10 apps, but if it takes you 4 months to build a workstation, such nonsense as webmail or html on wouldn't be tolerated by myself, not to mention the question of how your managing all your passwords, anyway, it sounds like you need to just sit down, and design a security / backup plan, cause the road your headed on is going to have bumps.
Your not going to look smart when you need to print an invoice but your workstations are down cause you have a webmail virus to clean up.
LOLQuote From The Article:"how do I stay anonymous to Google while using their services?
"A Wireless Connection going through TOR and Seven Proxies might help, oops we forgot your DNS leak...Se La VieLet me see, your getting a "free service" and you have applied some of that freeness to a "corporate account", and now your just finding out your going to pay for it with your ip address and statistics.
I have to say, this isn't a problem with Google, it's a problem with your basic understanding of TCPIP, and business in general, if not an outright gap in reality.
I'll bite the last assumption since I don't know ya, but not the others..
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425500</id>
	<title>Re:Use multiple browsers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260701940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Forget copy/paste'ing. Just click-hold the links in Safari and drag them onto Firefox in the Dock. It's somewhat more convenient.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Forget copy/paste'ing .
Just click-hold the links in Safari and drag them onto Firefox in the Dock .
It 's somewhat more convenient .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Forget copy/paste'ing.
Just click-hold the links in Safari and drag them onto Firefox in the Dock.
It's somewhat more convenient.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425256</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428346</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>0BoDy</author>
	<datestamp>1260730380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>FWIW -- I find the majority of this story, stupid, in general, but your comment shares one of the least bits of actual sense.

I don't think a genuine assumption of privacy is possible, no matter how many I-saw-it-in-a-movie things you use to block google.

The fact is, as someone else commented, People commit crimes everyday, it's who gets prosecuted that's the problem.  Personally, however, I think that the issue of being a dissadent runs deeper that my privacy in google, and that, ultimately, I'm less likely to be incriminated by my web activity than any other, but My hope is that I will be able so Subpoena Google in my own defense.

As far as sharing it with secretive agencies<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... this is a government control problem, not a Google Problem</htmltext>
<tokenext>FWIW -- I find the majority of this story , stupid , in general , but your comment shares one of the least bits of actual sense .
I do n't think a genuine assumption of privacy is possible , no matter how many I-saw-it-in-a-movie things you use to block google .
The fact is , as someone else commented , People commit crimes everyday , it 's who gets prosecuted that 's the problem .
Personally , however , I think that the issue of being a dissadent runs deeper that my privacy in google , and that , ultimately , I 'm less likely to be incriminated by my web activity than any other , but My hope is that I will be able so Subpoena Google in my own defense .
As far as sharing it with secretive agencies ... this is a government control problem , not a Google Problem</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FWIW -- I find the majority of this story, stupid, in general, but your comment shares one of the least bits of actual sense.
I don't think a genuine assumption of privacy is possible, no matter how many I-saw-it-in-a-movie things you use to block google.
The fact is, as someone else commented, People commit crimes everyday, it's who gets prosecuted that's the problem.
Personally, however, I think that the issue of being a dissadent runs deeper that my privacy in google, and that, ultimately, I'm less likely to be incriminated by my web activity than any other, but My hope is that I will be able so Subpoena Google in my own defense.
As far as sharing it with secretive agencies ... this is a government control problem, not a Google Problem</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424964</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425308</id>
	<title>Re:Truth is, there is no privacy anywhere.</title>
	<author>beatsme</author>
	<datestamp>1260700560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>What a terribly simplistic and fear-mongering account you've provided here. Of course you can achieve privacy. Anonymity is not a mythical beast, even on the internet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What a terribly simplistic and fear-mongering account you 've provided here .
Of course you can achieve privacy .
Anonymity is not a mythical beast , even on the internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a terribly simplistic and fear-mongering account you've provided here.
Of course you can achieve privacy.
Anonymity is not a mythical beast, even on the internet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424842</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428436</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>EoN604</author>
	<datestamp>1260731820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I completely agree.  It always makes me laugh when (usually particularly uninteresting) people make this big deal of protecting their privacy, thinking that anybody actually cares.  PEOPLE - YOU'RE NOT THAT INTERESTING.

At the end of the day, you're going to die.  If you choose to never publish any information about yourself in the public realm - fantastic, your legacy will be lost forever, and your name will be forgotten - but I'm sure you'll feel some sort of sense of achievement that you've 'defied the powers that be'.

Those who aren't as paranoid and who do publish information on the internet will have their names (and possibly related information) 'etched in stone' for the rest of time (or until the LHC destroys the universe).  Take your pick.  I'm choosing to participate in the internet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I completely agree .
It always makes me laugh when ( usually particularly uninteresting ) people make this big deal of protecting their privacy , thinking that anybody actually cares .
PEOPLE - YOU 'RE NOT THAT INTERESTING .
At the end of the day , you 're going to die .
If you choose to never publish any information about yourself in the public realm - fantastic , your legacy will be lost forever , and your name will be forgotten - but I 'm sure you 'll feel some sort of sense of achievement that you 've 'defied the powers that be' .
Those who are n't as paranoid and who do publish information on the internet will have their names ( and possibly related information ) 'etched in stone ' for the rest of time ( or until the LHC destroys the universe ) .
Take your pick .
I 'm choosing to participate in the internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I completely agree.
It always makes me laugh when (usually particularly uninteresting) people make this big deal of protecting their privacy, thinking that anybody actually cares.
PEOPLE - YOU'RE NOT THAT INTERESTING.
At the end of the day, you're going to die.
If you choose to never publish any information about yourself in the public realm - fantastic, your legacy will be lost forever, and your name will be forgotten - but I'm sure you'll feel some sort of sense of achievement that you've 'defied the powers that be'.
Those who aren't as paranoid and who do publish information on the internet will have their names (and possibly related information) 'etched in stone' for the rest of time (or until the LHC destroys the universe).
Take your pick.
I'm choosing to participate in the internet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425376</id>
	<title>Re:What's the big deal?</title>
	<author>convolvatron</author>
	<datestamp>1260700980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>except for -<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; - security leaks<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; - differential pricing<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; - security agencies deciding that you dont fit a common pattern and<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; targetting you for additional surveillance<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; - impact on your credit rating<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; - ability to get certain kinds of insurance at all<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; - when the marketers in question aren't just selecting legitimate ads, but scams<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; - we just changed our privacy policy and the last 10 years of data on<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; you is available to anyone for the low low price of 0.0001 USD<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; - our company was acquired by a company whose contact information is a p.o. box in moldava<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>except for -     - security leaks     - differential pricing     - security agencies deciding that you dont fit a common pattern and         targetting you for additional surveillance     - impact on your credit rating     - ability to get certain kinds of insurance at all     - when the marketers in question are n't just selecting legitimate ads , but scams     - we just changed our privacy policy and the last 10 years of data on         you is available to anyone for the low low price of 0.0001 USD     - our company was acquired by a company whose contact information is a p.o .
box in moldava ... .    </tokentext>
<sentencetext>except for -
    - security leaks
    - differential pricing
    - security agencies deciding that you dont fit a common pattern and
        targetting you for additional surveillance
    - impact on your credit rating
    - ability to get certain kinds of insurance at all
    - when the marketers in question aren't just selecting legitimate ads, but scams
    - we just changed our privacy policy and the last 10 years of data on
        you is available to anyone for the low low price of 0.0001 USD
    - our company was acquired by a company whose contact information is a p.o.
box in moldava ....
   </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424808</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30431160</id>
	<title>Scroogle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260807120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had the same thoughts about google, and then I stumbled upon this:<br>https://ssl.scroogle.org/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had the same thoughts about google , and then I stumbled upon this : https : //ssl.scroogle.org/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had the same thoughts about google, and then I stumbled upon this:https://ssl.scroogle.org/</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424880</id>
	<title>You could do it yourself.</title>
	<author>NoYob</author>
	<datestamp>1260697380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do a search on whatever you're interested in. Then precede those searches with something completely random,like airplanes and explosives. Do your search on whatever you want and then follow it up with a search on say, "Islam".<p>No one will pay any attention.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do a search on whatever you 're interested in .
Then precede those searches with something completely random,like airplanes and explosives .
Do your search on whatever you want and then follow it up with a search on say , " Islam " .No one will pay any attention .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do a search on whatever you're interested in.
Then precede those searches with something completely random,like airplanes and explosives.
Do your search on whatever you want and then follow it up with a search on say, "Islam".No one will pay any attention.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426144</id>
	<title>New vs Old Slashdot</title>
	<author>GF678</author>
	<datestamp>1260707400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I notice several posts have been made regarding the current Slashdot con census regarding privacy. When some people say that they aren't worried about any privacy issues because they're too insignifant to care about as far as Google's concerned, some others pipe up and comment that in the "old days" of Slashdot, they'd be in the extreme minority, whereas nowadays it's fairly common to see this opinion.</p><p>Here's the problem - there IS no privacy on the Internet anymore. Compared to the old days of Slashdot, surveillance and logging has become so commonplace and pervasive, that even if you don't put your particulars on the Internet yourself, someone else might do it themselves. A good example would be a friend who uploads a picture on Facebook which has you tagged, even if you don't use Facebook. Heck, if you don't use it, you may not even know the picture exists until it's brought to your attention. At the very least, it's hard to remain isolated from the privacy issues of the Internet, short of becoming a hermit and avoiding any social contact.</p><p>So the reason privacy is being given up, as seen by some people, is because it's frigging tiring to have to check, double-check, workaround and in the end, give-up the fun and useful services and technologies available to us on the Internet, because very little of them respect total privacy. It's also hard to justify such extreme paranoia when it's highly unlikely you'll encounter any actual problems, so long as you use common sense.</p><p>In the end, we're all gonna die anyway, so freaking RELAX.  Whatever privacy issues you were concerned about won't matter an iota regardless of whether you get buried, cremated or shot out of a canon into the sun.</p><p>PS. There's also the tiny fact that you WON'T CONVINCE EVERYONE about the importance of privacy anymore. That boat has sailed, given how much Facebook is used as a benchmark. So don't fret about worried how how you think privacy is becoming extinct. If you want to live in the modern digital age, it already has...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I notice several posts have been made regarding the current Slashdot con census regarding privacy .
When some people say that they are n't worried about any privacy issues because they 're too insignifant to care about as far as Google 's concerned , some others pipe up and comment that in the " old days " of Slashdot , they 'd be in the extreme minority , whereas nowadays it 's fairly common to see this opinion.Here 's the problem - there IS no privacy on the Internet anymore .
Compared to the old days of Slashdot , surveillance and logging has become so commonplace and pervasive , that even if you do n't put your particulars on the Internet yourself , someone else might do it themselves .
A good example would be a friend who uploads a picture on Facebook which has you tagged , even if you do n't use Facebook .
Heck , if you do n't use it , you may not even know the picture exists until it 's brought to your attention .
At the very least , it 's hard to remain isolated from the privacy issues of the Internet , short of becoming a hermit and avoiding any social contact.So the reason privacy is being given up , as seen by some people , is because it 's frigging tiring to have to check , double-check , workaround and in the end , give-up the fun and useful services and technologies available to us on the Internet , because very little of them respect total privacy .
It 's also hard to justify such extreme paranoia when it 's highly unlikely you 'll encounter any actual problems , so long as you use common sense.In the end , we 're all gon na die anyway , so freaking RELAX .
Whatever privacy issues you were concerned about wo n't matter an iota regardless of whether you get buried , cremated or shot out of a canon into the sun.PS .
There 's also the tiny fact that you WO N'T CONVINCE EVERYONE about the importance of privacy anymore .
That boat has sailed , given how much Facebook is used as a benchmark .
So do n't fret about worried how how you think privacy is becoming extinct .
If you want to live in the modern digital age , it already has.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I notice several posts have been made regarding the current Slashdot con census regarding privacy.
When some people say that they aren't worried about any privacy issues because they're too insignifant to care about as far as Google's concerned, some others pipe up and comment that in the "old days" of Slashdot, they'd be in the extreme minority, whereas nowadays it's fairly common to see this opinion.Here's the problem - there IS no privacy on the Internet anymore.
Compared to the old days of Slashdot, surveillance and logging has become so commonplace and pervasive, that even if you don't put your particulars on the Internet yourself, someone else might do it themselves.
A good example would be a friend who uploads a picture on Facebook which has you tagged, even if you don't use Facebook.
Heck, if you don't use it, you may not even know the picture exists until it's brought to your attention.
At the very least, it's hard to remain isolated from the privacy issues of the Internet, short of becoming a hermit and avoiding any social contact.So the reason privacy is being given up, as seen by some people, is because it's frigging tiring to have to check, double-check, workaround and in the end, give-up the fun and useful services and technologies available to us on the Internet, because very little of them respect total privacy.
It's also hard to justify such extreme paranoia when it's highly unlikely you'll encounter any actual problems, so long as you use common sense.In the end, we're all gonna die anyway, so freaking RELAX.
Whatever privacy issues you were concerned about won't matter an iota regardless of whether you get buried, cremated or shot out of a canon into the sun.PS.
There's also the tiny fact that you WON'T CONVINCE EVERYONE about the importance of privacy anymore.
That boat has sailed, given how much Facebook is used as a benchmark.
So don't fret about worried how how you think privacy is becoming extinct.
If you want to live in the modern digital age, it already has...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425626</id>
	<title>Do you really want to know? Ok, this is it!</title>
	<author>MindPrison</author>
	<datestamp>1260702960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) Have a clean computer, by this - I mean a 100\% random-data-erased harddisk &amp; computer that is completely UNTOUCHED.<br>2) Download a LIVE CD (Linux) eg. ubuntu, QNX..etc.. from a DIFFERENT computer in eg. a netcafe. Burn it.<br>3) Purchase a small 40-50 cm satellite dish.<br>4) Purchase a USB WiFi dongle, preferably one where you can re-flash the MAC address. (If you don't know - google!)<br>5) Purchase some 1mm copper, a 10x10cm copper clad board, and get yourself a soldering iron bolt + some solder.<br>6) Follow the internet instructions on making a Double Bi Quad WiFi antenna.<br>7) Rig the antenna up on a camera-stand so you can aim &amp; scan houses accurately.<br>8) Now you should be able to get 50-1000 WiFi connections i a heartbeat in a city, even pretty far away, depending on your "focussing" center.<br>Some of them, are bound to be free from encryption.<br>9 Insert your live cd, let it do it's job.<br>10 You're not home free yet, you want to protect your "host" as well, so use a program to find free proxies (scan for proxies)<br>11 Hook your firefox up to a series of proxies, change regularly.</p><p>Enjoy the worlds most paranoid - but safe - surfing.</p><p>Too hardcore for ya? Here's the basics.<br>Use a LIVE CD for safe surfing, make sure to overwrite the Linux Swap memory after each use (that's your swap partition), change your mac address regularly, and use proxies, you should be fairly safe - at least - they can't prove a damn thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Have a clean computer , by this - I mean a 100 \ % random-data-erased harddisk &amp; computer that is completely UNTOUCHED.2 ) Download a LIVE CD ( Linux ) eg .
ubuntu , QNX..etc.. from a DIFFERENT computer in eg .
a netcafe .
Burn it.3 ) Purchase a small 40-50 cm satellite dish.4 ) Purchase a USB WiFi dongle , preferably one where you can re-flash the MAC address .
( If you do n't know - google !
) 5 ) Purchase some 1mm copper , a 10x10cm copper clad board , and get yourself a soldering iron bolt + some solder.6 ) Follow the internet instructions on making a Double Bi Quad WiFi antenna.7 ) Rig the antenna up on a camera-stand so you can aim &amp; scan houses accurately.8 ) Now you should be able to get 50-1000 WiFi connections i a heartbeat in a city , even pretty far away , depending on your " focussing " center.Some of them , are bound to be free from encryption.9 Insert your live cd , let it do it 's job.10 You 're not home free yet , you want to protect your " host " as well , so use a program to find free proxies ( scan for proxies ) 11 Hook your firefox up to a series of proxies , change regularly.Enjoy the worlds most paranoid - but safe - surfing.Too hardcore for ya ?
Here 's the basics.Use a LIVE CD for safe surfing , make sure to overwrite the Linux Swap memory after each use ( that 's your swap partition ) , change your mac address regularly , and use proxies , you should be fairly safe - at least - they ca n't prove a damn thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Have a clean computer, by this - I mean a 100\% random-data-erased harddisk &amp; computer that is completely UNTOUCHED.2) Download a LIVE CD (Linux) eg.
ubuntu, QNX..etc.. from a DIFFERENT computer in eg.
a netcafe.
Burn it.3) Purchase a small 40-50 cm satellite dish.4) Purchase a USB WiFi dongle, preferably one where you can re-flash the MAC address.
(If you don't know - google!
)5) Purchase some 1mm copper, a 10x10cm copper clad board, and get yourself a soldering iron bolt + some solder.6) Follow the internet instructions on making a Double Bi Quad WiFi antenna.7) Rig the antenna up on a camera-stand so you can aim &amp; scan houses accurately.8) Now you should be able to get 50-1000 WiFi connections i a heartbeat in a city, even pretty far away, depending on your "focussing" center.Some of them, are bound to be free from encryption.9 Insert your live cd, let it do it's job.10 You're not home free yet, you want to protect your "host" as well, so use a program to find free proxies (scan for proxies)11 Hook your firefox up to a series of proxies, change regularly.Enjoy the worlds most paranoid - but safe - surfing.Too hardcore for ya?
Here's the basics.Use a LIVE CD for safe surfing, make sure to overwrite the Linux Swap memory after each use (that's your swap partition), change your mac address regularly, and use proxies, you should be fairly safe - at least - they can't prove a damn thing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425696</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260703440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hello sir,</p><p>Nice to meet you. I also use your butler, Jeeves, for everything. He fulfills his duties perfectly. I found out that he also provides additional services. For example, if I ask him <i>nicely</i> (i.e., for a tidy amount of money) about your travel, he'll tell me your upcoming schedule. I find that useful for my own reasons. In any case, keep using Jeeves, he's a great guy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hello sir,Nice to meet you .
I also use your butler , Jeeves , for everything .
He fulfills his duties perfectly .
I found out that he also provides additional services .
For example , if I ask him nicely ( i.e. , for a tidy amount of money ) about your travel , he 'll tell me your upcoming schedule .
I find that useful for my own reasons .
In any case , keep using Jeeves , he 's a great guy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hello sir,Nice to meet you.
I also use your butler, Jeeves, for everything.
He fulfills his duties perfectly.
I found out that he also provides additional services.
For example, if I ask him nicely (i.e., for a tidy amount of money) about your travel, he'll tell me your upcoming schedule.
I find that useful for my own reasons.
In any case, keep using Jeeves, he's a great guy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426674</id>
	<title>NoScript</title>
	<author>Deorus</author>
	<datestamp>1260712560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Switch back to Firefox / Thunderbird, setup your Gmail accounts as IMAP accounts on Thunderbird, install NoScript, and block all scripts and cookies form Google.  If you want even more anonymity, use Tor.</p><p>Finally, go to about:config, type "referer" (yes, with a single R) in the Filter bar and change the value (which is 2 by default) to 0, which disables the "Referer" HTTP header (Google feeds its crawlers with information from this header too).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Switch back to Firefox / Thunderbird , setup your Gmail accounts as IMAP accounts on Thunderbird , install NoScript , and block all scripts and cookies form Google .
If you want even more anonymity , use Tor.Finally , go to about : config , type " referer " ( yes , with a single R ) in the Filter bar and change the value ( which is 2 by default ) to 0 , which disables the " Referer " HTTP header ( Google feeds its crawlers with information from this header too ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Switch back to Firefox / Thunderbird, setup your Gmail accounts as IMAP accounts on Thunderbird, install NoScript, and block all scripts and cookies form Google.
If you want even more anonymity, use Tor.Finally, go to about:config, type "referer" (yes, with a single R) in the Filter bar and change the value (which is 2 by default) to 0, which disables the "Referer" HTTP header (Google feeds its crawlers with information from this header too).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425294</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260700440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>They arn't publishing your search history in the newspaper <b>yet</b>.. <b>For now</b> they are using it to increment a counter that you might be interested in office supply ads.</i></p><p>You forgot the other bits... They also link who you talk to, what you talk about, who you know, what kinds of things you're interested in, what kinds of things you look for, do for a living, what you eat, where you live, where you shop, how often you look for the cheapest ot just settle for the first price you see.</p><p>At the moment they only share this information with law enforcement and governments.  That too will change eventually.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They ar n't publishing your search history in the newspaper yet.. For now they are using it to increment a counter that you might be interested in office supply ads.You forgot the other bits... They also link who you talk to , what you talk about , who you know , what kinds of things you 're interested in , what kinds of things you look for , do for a living , what you eat , where you live , where you shop , how often you look for the cheapest ot just settle for the first price you see.At the moment they only share this information with law enforcement and governments .
That too will change eventually .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They arn't publishing your search history in the newspaper yet.. For now they are using it to increment a counter that you might be interested in office supply ads.You forgot the other bits... They also link who you talk to, what you talk about, who you know, what kinds of things you're interested in, what kinds of things you look for, do for a living, what you eat, where you live, where you shop, how often you look for the cheapest ot just settle for the first price you see.At the moment they only share this information with law enforcement and governments.
That too will change eventually.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425200</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260699780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Your just search #234521 for "sex with staplers".</p></div><p>Mmmm..... staplersss......</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your just search # 234521 for " sex with staplers " .Mmmm..... staplersss..... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your just search #234521 for "sex with staplers".Mmmm..... staplersss......
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30427770</id>
	<title>Am I the only one...</title>
	<author>Eskarel</author>
	<datestamp>1260723120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>who is concerned just by the fact that google themselves have all this information?<p>I know it's trendy not to trust the government, and I don't trust them all that much either, but if they really want information on me they're going to get it one way or another, and the outlet switch for getting rid of people who abuse that information is an election. Here in Australia we even have instant run off voting so I've been able to vote for a third party and still transition my vote to the lesser of two evils when said third party doesn't win. We've got pretty vibrant politics down here most of the time, and we can usually get rid of whichever set of idiots is going too far. This isn't usually the case in the US, but to be honest, trying to deal with problems getting fair election results by complaining about what the people you didn't want to vote for did isn't really the right way to solve the problem.</p><p>Google on the other hand is a private enterprise. I can't vote for new management of google, I can't vote for them to change their policies, I can't even find out what those policies are unless they're public, or how often they're actually following them.</p><p>The fact that google will roll over for the feds is really not that much of a big deal, everyone rolls over for the feds if they come with a warrant, that's the law. Admitedly some folks roll over without a warrant, and that's a problem, but outside the scope of this.</p><p>The big problem with google is that they horde so much information in the first place. The feds can't get what isn't logged. That's my big problem with google these days. They seem to be more and more intent on gathering more and more information about everyone. Search queries, e-mails, written documents, now DNS queries. Who the hell knows what the binary distribution of Chrome actually reports and to whom. Personally I trust the government a lot more than I trust google, I have at least some control over my government, and none at all over Google.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>who is concerned just by the fact that google themselves have all this information ? I know it 's trendy not to trust the government , and I do n't trust them all that much either , but if they really want information on me they 're going to get it one way or another , and the outlet switch for getting rid of people who abuse that information is an election .
Here in Australia we even have instant run off voting so I 've been able to vote for a third party and still transition my vote to the lesser of two evils when said third party does n't win .
We 've got pretty vibrant politics down here most of the time , and we can usually get rid of whichever set of idiots is going too far .
This is n't usually the case in the US , but to be honest , trying to deal with problems getting fair election results by complaining about what the people you did n't want to vote for did is n't really the right way to solve the problem.Google on the other hand is a private enterprise .
I ca n't vote for new management of google , I ca n't vote for them to change their policies , I ca n't even find out what those policies are unless they 're public , or how often they 're actually following them.The fact that google will roll over for the feds is really not that much of a big deal , everyone rolls over for the feds if they come with a warrant , that 's the law .
Admitedly some folks roll over without a warrant , and that 's a problem , but outside the scope of this.The big problem with google is that they horde so much information in the first place .
The feds ca n't get what is n't logged .
That 's my big problem with google these days .
They seem to be more and more intent on gathering more and more information about everyone .
Search queries , e-mails , written documents , now DNS queries .
Who the hell knows what the binary distribution of Chrome actually reports and to whom .
Personally I trust the government a lot more than I trust google , I have at least some control over my government , and none at all over Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>who is concerned just by the fact that google themselves have all this information?I know it's trendy not to trust the government, and I don't trust them all that much either, but if they really want information on me they're going to get it one way or another, and the outlet switch for getting rid of people who abuse that information is an election.
Here in Australia we even have instant run off voting so I've been able to vote for a third party and still transition my vote to the lesser of two evils when said third party doesn't win.
We've got pretty vibrant politics down here most of the time, and we can usually get rid of whichever set of idiots is going too far.
This isn't usually the case in the US, but to be honest, trying to deal with problems getting fair election results by complaining about what the people you didn't want to vote for did isn't really the right way to solve the problem.Google on the other hand is a private enterprise.
I can't vote for new management of google, I can't vote for them to change their policies, I can't even find out what those policies are unless they're public, or how often they're actually following them.The fact that google will roll over for the feds is really not that much of a big deal, everyone rolls over for the feds if they come with a warrant, that's the law.
Admitedly some folks roll over without a warrant, and that's a problem, but outside the scope of this.The big problem with google is that they horde so much information in the first place.
The feds can't get what isn't logged.
That's my big problem with google these days.
They seem to be more and more intent on gathering more and more information about everyone.
Search queries, e-mails, written documents, now DNS queries.
Who the hell knows what the binary distribution of Chrome actually reports and to whom.
Personally I trust the government a lot more than I trust google, I have at least some control over my government, and none at all over Google.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426078</id>
	<title>If you care about your privacy ...</title>
	<author>Roark Meets Dent</author>
	<datestamp>1260706860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you care about your privacy, try Startpage.com.   They don't keep permanent records of your searches or record IP addresses.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you care about your privacy , try Startpage.com .
They do n't keep permanent records of your searches or record IP addresses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you care about your privacy, try Startpage.com.
They don't keep permanent records of your searches or record IP addresses.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425238</id>
	<title>Sort of Easy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260699960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>       First invent a name so that you can set up an email account with the false name. Then go through an anonymous proxy server using the phoney email account. These two steps should offer you a reasonable level of safety. Obviously you do not want to use charge cards with your real identity on the computer that you use to surf the net. Setting up a firewall is always a good idea and running a fully encrypted hard disk can also help.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First invent a name so that you can set up an email account with the false name .
Then go through an anonymous proxy server using the phoney email account .
These two steps should offer you a reasonable level of safety .
Obviously you do not want to use charge cards with your real identity on the computer that you use to surf the net .
Setting up a firewall is always a good idea and running a fully encrypted hard disk can also help .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>       First invent a name so that you can set up an email account with the false name.
Then go through an anonymous proxy server using the phoney email account.
These two steps should offer you a reasonable level of safety.
Obviously you do not want to use charge cards with your real identity on the computer that you use to surf the net.
Setting up a firewall is always a good idea and running a fully encrypted hard disk can also help.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30427804</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260723540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Welcome to the new Slashdot, where everything Google does is great, and only people with something to hide would care about privacy.</p></div><p>For people who don't 'get it', compare the situation to getting frisked by the police.<br>The principle is exactly the same, but the practical difference is that Google's invasion of privacy<br>causes you no inconvienence... which somehow makes it okay. Out of sight, out of mind.</p></div><p>Now I don't quite get this simile.  When a police officer frisks you it is for their protection while they are arresting you.  While Google's search is while you use their services.  One happens to be a reasonable search for the safety of a person the other is observing what you do while in their virtual store.</p><p>Unless you click every link you goto through a search engine or use the Google DNS they can't even tell all of the sites you have been to.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to the new Slashdot , where everything Google does is great , and only people with something to hide would care about privacy.For people who do n't 'get it ' , compare the situation to getting frisked by the police.The principle is exactly the same , but the practical difference is that Google 's invasion of privacycauses you no inconvienence... which somehow makes it okay .
Out of sight , out of mind.Now I do n't quite get this simile .
When a police officer frisks you it is for their protection while they are arresting you .
While Google 's search is while you use their services .
One happens to be a reasonable search for the safety of a person the other is observing what you do while in their virtual store.Unless you click every link you goto through a search engine or use the Google DNS they ca n't even tell all of the sites you have been to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to the new Slashdot, where everything Google does is great, and only people with something to hide would care about privacy.For people who don't 'get it', compare the situation to getting frisked by the police.The principle is exactly the same, but the practical difference is that Google's invasion of privacycauses you no inconvienence... which somehow makes it okay.
Out of sight, out of mind.Now I don't quite get this simile.
When a police officer frisks you it is for their protection while they are arresting you.
While Google's search is while you use their services.
One happens to be a reasonable search for the safety of a person the other is observing what you do while in their virtual store.Unless you click every link you goto through a search engine or use the Google DNS they can't even tell all of the sites you have been to.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425174</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30430424</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Joey Vegetables</author>
	<datestamp>1260803040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know for sure that they are sharing data with government thugs . . . but I have to assume they are and act accordingly, because it's in the interest of the thugs to ask and for anyone they ask to comply lest "Bad Things" happen.  Hence, per Occam's Razor, it seems far more plausible that they are than that they aren't.</p><p>I do have a long history of having and expressing eeevil libertarian and anarchist thoughts, including opposition to the very concept of coercive government itself, and there is no longer any point in trying to deny or erase that history.  But I no longer make any effort to use the Internet to organize or even to discuss these ideas in any depth with other like-minded folks.  I understand that there are those who would consider those ideas a threat, and might try to use coercion or violence against me, or worse, against those I care about, in order to get me to stop.  Rather than risk that, I simply make sure that the political side of my life stays "off the radar" insofar as possible, which, while inconvenient, is no more difficult than it was in the days before the Internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know for sure that they are sharing data with government thugs .
. .
but I have to assume they are and act accordingly , because it 's in the interest of the thugs to ask and for anyone they ask to comply lest " Bad Things " happen .
Hence , per Occam 's Razor , it seems far more plausible that they are than that they are n't.I do have a long history of having and expressing eeevil libertarian and anarchist thoughts , including opposition to the very concept of coercive government itself , and there is no longer any point in trying to deny or erase that history .
But I no longer make any effort to use the Internet to organize or even to discuss these ideas in any depth with other like-minded folks .
I understand that there are those who would consider those ideas a threat , and might try to use coercion or violence against me , or worse , against those I care about , in order to get me to stop .
Rather than risk that , I simply make sure that the political side of my life stays " off the radar " insofar as possible , which , while inconvenient , is no more difficult than it was in the days before the Internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know for sure that they are sharing data with government thugs .
. .
but I have to assume they are and act accordingly, because it's in the interest of the thugs to ask and for anyone they ask to comply lest "Bad Things" happen.
Hence, per Occam's Razor, it seems far more plausible that they are than that they aren't.I do have a long history of having and expressing eeevil libertarian and anarchist thoughts, including opposition to the very concept of coercive government itself, and there is no longer any point in trying to deny or erase that history.
But I no longer make any effort to use the Internet to organize or even to discuss these ideas in any depth with other like-minded folks.
I understand that there are those who would consider those ideas a threat, and might try to use coercion or violence against me, or worse, against those I care about, in order to get me to stop.
Rather than risk that, I simply make sure that the political side of my life stays "off the radar" insofar as possible, which, while inconvenient, is no more difficult than it was in the days before the Internet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424964</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428690</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>sydneyfong</author>
	<datestamp>1260822720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They (governments) wisened up since then.</p><p>Ever drove a bit faster than the limits? (traffic regulations)<br>Ever realized the cashier gave extra change and neglected to give it back? (theft)<br>Ever tried to log into some computer which you don't have access to? (attempted hacking)<br>Or used a friend's account when he forgot to log off? (there's gotta be some computer crime here)<br>Got into a fight with a friend? (assault)</p><p>How about the thousands if not millions of obscure laws and regulations which were enacted and forgotten, which nobody knows of yet exists?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They ( governments ) wisened up since then.Ever drove a bit faster than the limits ?
( traffic regulations ) Ever realized the cashier gave extra change and neglected to give it back ?
( theft ) Ever tried to log into some computer which you do n't have access to ?
( attempted hacking ) Or used a friend 's account when he forgot to log off ?
( there 's got ta be some computer crime here ) Got into a fight with a friend ?
( assault ) How about the thousands if not millions of obscure laws and regulations which were enacted and forgotten , which nobody knows of yet exists ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They (governments) wisened up since then.Ever drove a bit faster than the limits?
(traffic regulations)Ever realized the cashier gave extra change and neglected to give it back?
(theft)Ever tried to log into some computer which you don't have access to?
(attempted hacking)Or used a friend's account when he forgot to log off?
(there's gotta be some computer crime here)Got into a fight with a friend?
(assault)How about the thousands if not millions of obscure laws and regulations which were enacted and forgotten, which nobody knows of yet exists?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425130</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424842</id>
	<title>Truth is, there is no privacy anywhere.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260697200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks to 9/11 there arent anywhere on the world you can expect any privacy. Not online, not offline, not your medical records, your purchases, your bills or anything else thats in electronic form are private.</p><p>Weather you use Bing, Hotmail, Gmail, Google doesnt matter the least bit since ALL of them logs everything and have to keep it and release it at any governments whim. The differences between them are highly superficial and has zero importance in reality. The terms of service from the different vendors are worth about, not a damn thing. They have to log everything and have to release whatever a court or intelligence agency wants released.</p><p>If you dont want it read and scrutinized, dont put it online. Period.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks to 9/11 there arent anywhere on the world you can expect any privacy .
Not online , not offline , not your medical records , your purchases , your bills or anything else thats in electronic form are private.Weather you use Bing , Hotmail , Gmail , Google doesnt matter the least bit since ALL of them logs everything and have to keep it and release it at any governments whim .
The differences between them are highly superficial and has zero importance in reality .
The terms of service from the different vendors are worth about , not a damn thing .
They have to log everything and have to release whatever a court or intelligence agency wants released.If you dont want it read and scrutinized , dont put it online .
Period .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks to 9/11 there arent anywhere on the world you can expect any privacy.
Not online, not offline, not your medical records, your purchases, your bills or anything else thats in electronic form are private.Weather you use Bing, Hotmail, Gmail, Google doesnt matter the least bit since ALL of them logs everything and have to keep it and release it at any governments whim.
The differences between them are highly superficial and has zero importance in reality.
The terms of service from the different vendors are worth about, not a damn thing.
They have to log everything and have to release whatever a court or intelligence agency wants released.If you dont want it read and scrutinized, dont put it online.
Period.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425938</id>
	<title>Privacy is difficult?? I don't understand</title>
	<author>StuartHankins</author>
	<datestamp>1260705780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use NoScript and AdBlock Plus. All the trackers I've ever encountered (for Google that's googlesyndication, google-analytics, etc etc) are blocked.<br> <br>It's very simple -- when I visit a page all the 3rd party sites that I've not voted on appear in a list. If I don't know them and explicitly trust them they get blocked. Very very occasionally I have to unblock one temporarily -- and even more occasionally I have to unblock one permanently.<br> <br>Even if I <em>could</em> see the ads I have never noticed any directed at me or with content based on my interests or browsing habits (other than the current site/page -- if I'm on a cooking site I might see ads for cooking etc).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use NoScript and AdBlock Plus .
All the trackers I 've ever encountered ( for Google that 's googlesyndication , google-analytics , etc etc ) are blocked .
It 's very simple -- when I visit a page all the 3rd party sites that I 've not voted on appear in a list .
If I do n't know them and explicitly trust them they get blocked .
Very very occasionally I have to unblock one temporarily -- and even more occasionally I have to unblock one permanently .
Even if I could see the ads I have never noticed any directed at me or with content based on my interests or browsing habits ( other than the current site/page -- if I 'm on a cooking site I might see ads for cooking etc ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use NoScript and AdBlock Plus.
All the trackers I've ever encountered (for Google that's googlesyndication, google-analytics, etc etc) are blocked.
It's very simple -- when I visit a page all the 3rd party sites that I've not voted on appear in a list.
If I don't know them and explicitly trust them they get blocked.
Very very occasionally I have to unblock one temporarily -- and even more occasionally I have to unblock one permanently.
Even if I could see the ads I have never noticed any directed at me or with content based on my interests or browsing habits (other than the current site/page -- if I'm on a cooking site I might see ads for cooking etc).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425310</id>
	<title>Re:Ideas</title>
	<author>Blue Shifted</author>
	<datestamp>1260700560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it won't work on my main machine that has FF3.5, and i love that extension, so i still have FF3.0 on my secondary machine, and i don't upgrade that machine to 3.5, just so i can keep using Customize Google.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it wo n't work on my main machine that has FF3.5 , and i love that extension , so i still have FF3.0 on my secondary machine , and i do n't upgrade that machine to 3.5 , just so i can keep using Customize Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it won't work on my main machine that has FF3.5, and i love that extension, so i still have FF3.0 on my secondary machine, and i don't upgrade that machine to 3.5, just so i can keep using Customize Google.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424822</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425870</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Slashdot</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1260705120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh, and I don't even have to pay my butler; he does everything for free!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , and I do n't even have to pay my butler ; he does everything for free !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, and I don't even have to pay my butler; he does everything for free!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30437956</id>
	<title>scroogle!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260796860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Use https://ssl.scroogle.org/index.html - it searches google AND uses ssl to keep your isp out of the loop. There are even firefox search addons for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Use https : //ssl.scroogle.org/index.html - it searches google AND uses ssl to keep your isp out of the loop .
There are even firefox search addons for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use https://ssl.scroogle.org/index.html - it searches google AND uses ssl to keep your isp out of the loop.
There are even firefox search addons for it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30427578</id>
	<title>Re:You could do it yourself.</title>
	<author>Akzo</author>
	<datestamp>1260721020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We finally found one! The system works!</htmltext>
<tokenext>We finally found one !
The system works !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We finally found one!
The system works!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424880</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30426804</id>
	<title>Re:Not exactly what you want, but</title>
	<author>dfgchgfxrjtdhgh.jjhv</author>
	<datestamp>1260713760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You missed a lot of other google owned ad tracking services &amp; blocked the sites he wants to use. There are a huge list of google ad servers. Grab the hosts file from: <a href="http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm" title="mvps.org">http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm</a> [mvps.org] they keep that updated &amp; it'll block some of the other ad &amp; spy stuff too.</p><p>Also make sure 'Web History' isn't enabled on your google accounts (my account page), or when you're logged out (top right corner of search results).</p><p>You have to give up some privacy as the cost of using their services, but it's quite easy to block some of their tracking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You missed a lot of other google owned ad tracking services &amp; blocked the sites he wants to use .
There are a huge list of google ad servers .
Grab the hosts file from : http : //www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm [ mvps.org ] they keep that updated &amp; it 'll block some of the other ad &amp; spy stuff too.Also make sure 'Web History ' is n't enabled on your google accounts ( my account page ) , or when you 're logged out ( top right corner of search results ) .You have to give up some privacy as the cost of using their services , but it 's quite easy to block some of their tracking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You missed a lot of other google owned ad tracking services &amp; blocked the sites he wants to use.
There are a huge list of google ad servers.
Grab the hosts file from: http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm [mvps.org] they keep that updated &amp; it'll block some of the other ad &amp; spy stuff too.Also make sure 'Web History' isn't enabled on your google accounts (my account page), or when you're logged out (top right corner of search results).You have to give up some privacy as the cost of using their services, but it's quite easy to block some of their tracking.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424830</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30431304</id>
	<title>Really paranoid and has the money?</title>
	<author>BenEnglishAtHome</author>
	<datestamp>1260807840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just a thought experiment, here.</p><p>Why not rent rackspace in some well-connected country not friendly to the one in which you reside?  Is it that difficult to set up your own personal proxy with encypted tunnel to and from?</p><p>I'm surprised there isn't some entrepeneur out there selling "The "ProxyBox(TM), Your Internet Privacy Solution!" or some such little appliance-box for people to mail off to the bulletproof hosting and colo company of their choice.  Venezuala, maybe?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just a thought experiment , here.Why not rent rackspace in some well-connected country not friendly to the one in which you reside ?
Is it that difficult to set up your own personal proxy with encypted tunnel to and from ? I 'm surprised there is n't some entrepeneur out there selling " The " ProxyBox ( TM ) , Your Internet Privacy Solution !
" or some such little appliance-box for people to mail off to the bulletproof hosting and colo company of their choice .
Venezuala , maybe ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just a thought experiment, here.Why not rent rackspace in some well-connected country not friendly to the one in which you reside?
Is it that difficult to set up your own personal proxy with encypted tunnel to and from?I'm surprised there isn't some entrepeneur out there selling "The "ProxyBox(TM), Your Internet Privacy Solution!
" or some such little appliance-box for people to mail off to the bulletproof hosting and colo company of their choice.
Venezuala, maybe?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425414</id>
	<title>How Do I Keep My Privacy While Using Windows?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260701220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><b>"I use Microsoft Windows all the time. I keep two Hotmail tabs open when I'm online (one is private, another is a corporate account), I use Bing search, and recently I switched to the Firefox browser. Microsoft's services are fast, easy to use and usually reliable. At the same time, I know Microsoft is tracking everything I do; I can see it in search results or their ads on web pages, which tend to match my interests. After the recent post by Just Another Human suggesting A Microsoft Competitor has a better privacy policy (a response to questionable comments from Just Another Human), I started to... 'bing' ways of keeping my private data safe while browsing and using Microsoft services. The results weren't very helpful, so I ask you, Slashdotters: how do I stay anonymous to Microsoft while using their services?" (fixed that for you!)</b></p><p><b>I store my photos, banking information and other private data within Windows, which is a proprietary Operating System. I don't know what the source code may say, it could contain a green colored scrolling ascii monkey in a red dress laughing as it sends my private data to Microsoft's servers for all I know. How is my privacy respected when I have no idea what may be going on "behind the scenes" in the code, especially with the long EULAs tied to most proprietary software today. Someone told me Microsoft has the ability to add or remove any software on MY computer running Windows whenever they want, is this true? What else are they capable of? Why shouldn't I listen to Richard Stallman and and consider switching entirely to open source software to house my private, personal data?</b></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I use Microsoft Windows all the time .
I keep two Hotmail tabs open when I 'm online ( one is private , another is a corporate account ) , I use Bing search , and recently I switched to the Firefox browser .
Microsoft 's services are fast , easy to use and usually reliable .
At the same time , I know Microsoft is tracking everything I do ; I can see it in search results or their ads on web pages , which tend to match my interests .
After the recent post by Just Another Human suggesting A Microsoft Competitor has a better privacy policy ( a response to questionable comments from Just Another Human ) , I started to... 'bing ' ways of keeping my private data safe while browsing and using Microsoft services .
The results were n't very helpful , so I ask you , Slashdotters : how do I stay anonymous to Microsoft while using their services ?
" ( fixed that for you !
) I store my photos , banking information and other private data within Windows , which is a proprietary Operating System .
I do n't know what the source code may say , it could contain a green colored scrolling ascii monkey in a red dress laughing as it sends my private data to Microsoft 's servers for all I know .
How is my privacy respected when I have no idea what may be going on " behind the scenes " in the code , especially with the long EULAs tied to most proprietary software today .
Someone told me Microsoft has the ability to add or remove any software on MY computer running Windows whenever they want , is this true ?
What else are they capable of ?
Why should n't I listen to Richard Stallman and and consider switching entirely to open source software to house my private , personal data ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I use Microsoft Windows all the time.
I keep two Hotmail tabs open when I'm online (one is private, another is a corporate account), I use Bing search, and recently I switched to the Firefox browser.
Microsoft's services are fast, easy to use and usually reliable.
At the same time, I know Microsoft is tracking everything I do; I can see it in search results or their ads on web pages, which tend to match my interests.
After the recent post by Just Another Human suggesting A Microsoft Competitor has a better privacy policy (a response to questionable comments from Just Another Human), I started to... 'bing' ways of keeping my private data safe while browsing and using Microsoft services.
The results weren't very helpful, so I ask you, Slashdotters: how do I stay anonymous to Microsoft while using their services?
" (fixed that for you!
)I store my photos, banking information and other private data within Windows, which is a proprietary Operating System.
I don't know what the source code may say, it could contain a green colored scrolling ascii monkey in a red dress laughing as it sends my private data to Microsoft's servers for all I know.
How is my privacy respected when I have no idea what may be going on "behind the scenes" in the code, especially with the long EULAs tied to most proprietary software today.
Someone told me Microsoft has the ability to add or remove any software on MY computer running Windows whenever they want, is this true?
What else are they capable of?
Why shouldn't I listen to Richard Stallman and and consider switching entirely to open source software to house my private, personal data?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424852</id>
	<title>Scroogle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260697260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Use Scroogle scraper. Your searches should then not be cross-referenceable against your use of other google services.</p><p>http://scroogle.org/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Use Scroogle scraper .
Your searches should then not be cross-referenceable against your use of other google services.http : //scroogle.org/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use Scroogle scraper.
Your searches should then not be cross-referenceable against your use of other google services.http://scroogle.org/</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425060</id>
	<title>Simple: Lie</title>
	<author>DynaSoar</author>
	<datestamp>1260698700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Objectively you can't remain anonymous. But what you can do is subjectively poison the collected data to make it at least questionable, or at the extreme, overtly and obviously so polluted with intentional misdirection that no authority, agency, employer or person would dare try to take any portion of it seriously for fear of choosing the wrong portion, thus making a serious error in judgement. Random BS won't work. Complete fabrication is too time consuming and prone to errors. Mixing every real action with more or less of a plausible false action with some but incomplete consistency is best, especially if some of your real action is hidden via encryption, proxy, back channel transmission and so forth. Outright misstatements aren't good enough. Being 'seen' doing other than what you want being seen doing is the key. Look into OPSEC (operational security).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Objectively you ca n't remain anonymous .
But what you can do is subjectively poison the collected data to make it at least questionable , or at the extreme , overtly and obviously so polluted with intentional misdirection that no authority , agency , employer or person would dare try to take any portion of it seriously for fear of choosing the wrong portion , thus making a serious error in judgement .
Random BS wo n't work .
Complete fabrication is too time consuming and prone to errors .
Mixing every real action with more or less of a plausible false action with some but incomplete consistency is best , especially if some of your real action is hidden via encryption , proxy , back channel transmission and so forth .
Outright misstatements are n't good enough .
Being 'seen ' doing other than what you want being seen doing is the key .
Look into OPSEC ( operational security ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Objectively you can't remain anonymous.
But what you can do is subjectively poison the collected data to make it at least questionable, or at the extreme, overtly and obviously so polluted with intentional misdirection that no authority, agency, employer or person would dare try to take any portion of it seriously for fear of choosing the wrong portion, thus making a serious error in judgement.
Random BS won't work.
Complete fabrication is too time consuming and prone to errors.
Mixing every real action with more or less of a plausible false action with some but incomplete consistency is best, especially if some of your real action is hidden via encryption, proxy, back channel transmission and so forth.
Outright misstatements aren't good enough.
Being 'seen' doing other than what you want being seen doing is the key.
Look into OPSEC (operational security).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425400</id>
	<title>Third party computer</title>
	<author>tee-rav</author>
	<datestamp>1260701160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't keep a Google account.
Use Google on a public computer at the library.
While there, read their newspapers and other periodicals to keep current.
Don't get a library card; don't check anything out.
Wear gloves and a disguise if you really don't want to be ID'ed, or street clothes if you don't want to be noticed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't keep a Google account .
Use Google on a public computer at the library .
While there , read their newspapers and other periodicals to keep current .
Do n't get a library card ; do n't check anything out .
Wear gloves and a disguise if you really do n't want to be ID'ed , or street clothes if you do n't want to be noticed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't keep a Google account.
Use Google on a public computer at the library.
While there, read their newspapers and other periodicals to keep current.
Don't get a library card; don't check anything out.
Wear gloves and a disguise if you really don't want to be ID'ed, or street clothes if you don't want to be noticed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425506</id>
	<title>Re:You don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260702000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or you can write your congressman that you will vote for anyone else if he does not propose new law to retire patriot act. This is what Google CEO was saying, that any service provider needs to comply and stay silent afterwards. I don't really see how people concluded that Bing or yahoo would be somehow safer when they are known to bend over to any government request even when they do not have to. Google at least always insisted on a proper court order like you would do for a home search.</p><p>That said I think it is good that facts can be discovered in a proper court procedure,this serves important social service (crimes should be punished).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or you can write your congressman that you will vote for anyone else if he does not propose new law to retire patriot act .
This is what Google CEO was saying , that any service provider needs to comply and stay silent afterwards .
I do n't really see how people concluded that Bing or yahoo would be somehow safer when they are known to bend over to any government request even when they do not have to .
Google at least always insisted on a proper court order like you would do for a home search.That said I think it is good that facts can be discovered in a proper court procedure,this serves important social service ( crimes should be punished ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or you can write your congressman that you will vote for anyone else if he does not propose new law to retire patriot act.
This is what Google CEO was saying, that any service provider needs to comply and stay silent afterwards.
I don't really see how people concluded that Bing or yahoo would be somehow safer when they are known to bend over to any government request even when they do not have to.
Google at least always insisted on a proper court order like you would do for a home search.That said I think it is good that facts can be discovered in a proper court procedure,this serves important social service (crimes should be punished).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424964</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428732</id>
	<title>Use anonymous proxy services?</title>
	<author>bradley13</author>
	<datestamp>1260823440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At the risk of stating the blindingly obvious: why not put anything you care about through an anonymous proxy service? There are zillions of these, ranging from totally-free-but-overloaded to expensive-luxury-model. Just search for "anonymous proxy service".

</p><p>At the risk of stating something else obvious: an anonymous proxy will not help if you use a service that requires you to log in. It is only good for search queries and general surfing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At the risk of stating the blindingly obvious : why not put anything you care about through an anonymous proxy service ?
There are zillions of these , ranging from totally-free-but-overloaded to expensive-luxury-model .
Just search for " anonymous proxy service " .
At the risk of stating something else obvious : an anonymous proxy will not help if you use a service that requires you to log in .
It is only good for search queries and general surfing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At the risk of stating the blindingly obvious: why not put anything you care about through an anonymous proxy service?
There are zillions of these, ranging from totally-free-but-overloaded to expensive-luxury-model.
Just search for "anonymous proxy service".
At the risk of stating something else obvious: an anonymous proxy will not help if you use a service that requires you to log in.
It is only good for search queries and general surfing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425160</id>
	<title>Re:Truth is, there is no privacy anywhere.</title>
	<author>Xtifr</author>
	<datestamp>1260699540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They have to log everything</p></div><p>No.  No they don't.  If they <em>do</em> log it, then they may have to release it to a court or whatever, but I can say quite definitely that logging is not (yet) mandatory.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They have to log everythingNo .
No they do n't .
If they do log it , then they may have to release it to a court or whatever , but I can say quite definitely that logging is not ( yet ) mandatory .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They have to log everythingNo.
No they don't.
If they do log it, then they may have to release it to a court or whatever, but I can say quite definitely that logging is not (yet) mandatory.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424842</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30428756</id>
	<title>Mom loses pounds...</title>
	<author>GerryHattrick</author>
	<datestamp>1260823740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If Google knew anything about me, they wouldn't serve gross weight-loss and hideous teeth-whitening ads alongside respectable web sources.  Nor would those sources allow it alongside their brand.  Hypothesis: is this nastiness being quietly encouraged so that we actively PREFER them to know more?</htmltext>
<tokenext>If Google knew anything about me , they would n't serve gross weight-loss and hideous teeth-whitening ads alongside respectable web sources .
Nor would those sources allow it alongside their brand .
Hypothesis : is this nastiness being quietly encouraged so that we actively PREFER them to know more ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Google knew anything about me, they wouldn't serve gross weight-loss and hideous teeth-whitening ads alongside respectable web sources.
Nor would those sources allow it alongside their brand.
Hypothesis: is this nastiness being quietly encouraged so that we actively PREFER them to know more?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30425598</id>
	<title>Re:What's the big deal?</title>
	<author>SpinyNorman</author>
	<datestamp>1260702720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>or creating a dossier on all the weird shit I've searched for and forwarding it to my boss</p></div><p>Well, they ARE creating that dossier (they've admitted to retaining all search queries), although supposedly anonymized.</p><p>The thing is, Google may not be e-mailing it to your boss or anyone else, but since your search history is saved then there's a chance of it getting out. Maybe Google gets acquired by another company who's not interested in your privacy, maybe they get hacked, or a disgruntled ex-employee leaks it... What's the betting that it's totally anonymous anyway since as such it'd be of little use to them for their business of selling targetted advertizing...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>or creating a dossier on all the weird shit I 've searched for and forwarding it to my bossWell , they ARE creating that dossier ( they 've admitted to retaining all search queries ) , although supposedly anonymized.The thing is , Google may not be e-mailing it to your boss or anyone else , but since your search history is saved then there 's a chance of it getting out .
Maybe Google gets acquired by another company who 's not interested in your privacy , maybe they get hacked , or a disgruntled ex-employee leaks it... What 's the betting that it 's totally anonymous anyway since as such it 'd be of little use to them for their business of selling targetted advertizing.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or creating a dossier on all the weird shit I've searched for and forwarding it to my bossWell, they ARE creating that dossier (they've admitted to retaining all search queries), although supposedly anonymized.The thing is, Google may not be e-mailing it to your boss or anyone else, but since your search history is saved then there's a chance of it getting out.
Maybe Google gets acquired by another company who's not interested in your privacy, maybe they get hacked, or a disgruntled ex-employee leaks it... What's the betting that it's totally anonymous anyway since as such it'd be of little use to them for their business of selling targetted advertizing...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30424808</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1925206.30436676</id>
	<title>Crowd-sourced Search</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260790920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Search places like Delicious, Wikipedia, Digg, and Twitter for links. There is no ranking algorithm, but these links are, why do I feel dirty for using this term, "crowd-sourced."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Search places like Delicious , Wikipedia , Digg , and Twitter for links .
There is no ranking algorithm , but these links are , why do I feel dirty for using this term , " crowd-sourced .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Search places like Delicious, Wikipedia, Digg, and Twitter for links.
There is no ranking algorithm, but these links are, why do I feel dirty for using this term, "crowd-sourced.
"</sentencetext>
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