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	<title>Company Trains the Autistic To Test Software</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1260362880000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Aspiritech, a Chicago based non-profit company, has launched a program to <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34047713/ns/health-mental\_health/">train high-functioning autistic people as testers</a> for software development companies. The company says autistics have a talent for spotting imperfections, and thrive on predictable, monotonous work. Aspiritech is not the first company to explore the idea of treating this handicap as a resource. Specialisterne, a Danish company founded in 2004, also trains autistics. They hire their workforce out as hourly consultants to do data entry, assembly line jobs and work that many would find tedious and repetitive.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Aspiritech , a Chicago based non-profit company , has launched a program to train high-functioning autistic people as testers for software development companies .
The company says autistics have a talent for spotting imperfections , and thrive on predictable , monotonous work .
Aspiritech is not the first company to explore the idea of treating this handicap as a resource .
Specialisterne , a Danish company founded in 2004 , also trains autistics .
They hire their workforce out as hourly consultants to do data entry , assembly line jobs and work that many would find tedious and repetitive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aspiritech, a Chicago based non-profit company, has launched a program to train high-functioning autistic people as testers for software development companies.
The company says autistics have a talent for spotting imperfections, and thrive on predictable, monotonous work.
Aspiritech is not the first company to explore the idea of treating this handicap as a resource.
Specialisterne, a Danish company founded in 2004, also trains autistics.
They hire their workforce out as hourly consultants to do data entry, assembly line jobs and work that many would find tedious and repetitive.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383542</id>
	<title>A Brave New World</title>
	<author>bashibazouk</author>
	<datestamp>1259589120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bring on the Epsilons...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bring on the Epsilons.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bring on the Epsilons...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383566</id>
	<title>Can you say...</title>
	<author>redvision4</author>
	<datestamp>1259589300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Betas. Or maybe deltas.</p><p>I'm sure some people will be upset by that comment but they are sorting job function by capability.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Betas .
Or maybe deltas.I 'm sure some people will be upset by that comment but they are sorting job function by capability .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Betas.
Or maybe deltas.I'm sure some people will be upset by that comment but they are sorting job function by capability.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30403080</id>
	<title>we could all learn something</title>
	<author>avicho</author>
	<datestamp>1260552660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>wow, this thread actually stays on topic...but i didn't find anything about choosing work for yourself. Those with disabilities usually have someone to help them make bigger decisions in there life (if they're lucky and have family that cares), my point is that when any one of us puts thought into what we really want from life, work friends, recreation, we can be incredibly successful.  I work with special needs individuals...specifically "real work for real pay".  If you are going to place someone with *insert label here* into a real job, they have to be successful and at least equal to others in that position. If we look back on our own careers (or lack there of) we were probably most happy and therefore successful in a position that best suited who we are.  It is called Person Centred Planning (yes that is how canadians spell centered).....so to get back to the story...if an autistic, asbergers (any other label including \.ers) is going to be employed for the long term, they have to be doing what they want.  If you like computers but don't know anything about them, read \. (or check out ggl similar pages extension in Chrome)...and then look for a job in the tech industry...shit you might like to count the number of grammar errors in online posts (apparently a favourite past time of \.ers)...then find a way to get paid for it.  Any 18 yr old may not be able to jump into a top level job scanning code for errors, there are all kinds of skills to learn first, but as mentioned by some parents, they teach their autistic kids about social rules etc...wow, they teach their kids....so is the difference between asbergers and \.ers the fact that your moms never taught you shit cuz you thought you knew it all first....well good luck trying to get that tech job...if you don't like what your doing, and don't have any help to learn how to do it your scewed, 'special' or not.</htmltext>
<tokenext>wow , this thread actually stays on topic...but i did n't find anything about choosing work for yourself .
Those with disabilities usually have someone to help them make bigger decisions in there life ( if they 're lucky and have family that cares ) , my point is that when any one of us puts thought into what we really want from life , work friends , recreation , we can be incredibly successful .
I work with special needs individuals...specifically " real work for real pay " .
If you are going to place someone with * insert label here * into a real job , they have to be successful and at least equal to others in that position .
If we look back on our own careers ( or lack there of ) we were probably most happy and therefore successful in a position that best suited who we are .
It is called Person Centred Planning ( yes that is how canadians spell centered ) .....so to get back to the story...if an autistic , asbergers ( any other label including \ .ers ) is going to be employed for the long term , they have to be doing what they want .
If you like computers but do n't know anything about them , read \ .
( or check out ggl similar pages extension in Chrome ) ...and then look for a job in the tech industry...shit you might like to count the number of grammar errors in online posts ( apparently a favourite past time of \ .ers ) ...then find a way to get paid for it .
Any 18 yr old may not be able to jump into a top level job scanning code for errors , there are all kinds of skills to learn first , but as mentioned by some parents , they teach their autistic kids about social rules etc...wow , they teach their kids....so is the difference between asbergers and \ .ers the fact that your moms never taught you shit cuz you thought you knew it all first....well good luck trying to get that tech job...if you do n't like what your doing , and do n't have any help to learn how to do it your scewed , 'special ' or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wow, this thread actually stays on topic...but i didn't find anything about choosing work for yourself.
Those with disabilities usually have someone to help them make bigger decisions in there life (if they're lucky and have family that cares), my point is that when any one of us puts thought into what we really want from life, work friends, recreation, we can be incredibly successful.
I work with special needs individuals...specifically "real work for real pay".
If you are going to place someone with *insert label here* into a real job, they have to be successful and at least equal to others in that position.
If we look back on our own careers (or lack there of) we were probably most happy and therefore successful in a position that best suited who we are.
It is called Person Centred Planning (yes that is how canadians spell centered).....so to get back to the story...if an autistic, asbergers (any other label including \.ers) is going to be employed for the long term, they have to be doing what they want.
If you like computers but don't know anything about them, read \.
(or check out ggl similar pages extension in Chrome)...and then look for a job in the tech industry...shit you might like to count the number of grammar errors in online posts (apparently a favourite past time of \.ers)...then find a way to get paid for it.
Any 18 yr old may not be able to jump into a top level job scanning code for errors, there are all kinds of skills to learn first, but as mentioned by some parents, they teach their autistic kids about social rules etc...wow, they teach their kids....so is the difference between asbergers and \.ers the fact that your moms never taught you shit cuz you thought you knew it all first....well good luck trying to get that tech job...if you don't like what your doing, and don't have any help to learn how to do it your scewed, 'special' or not.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386632</id>
	<title>Cube</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260448620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They will be the ones crawling out of the Cube, once all us engineers have finally imploded up our own arses.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They will be the ones crawling out of the Cube , once all us engineers have finally imploded up our own arses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They will be the ones crawling out of the Cube, once all us engineers have finally imploded up our own arses.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30387726</id>
	<title>Re:Dupe</title>
	<author>sorak</author>
	<datestamp>1260458640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Much, if not all, of the supposed increase in autism rates was <a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=95" title="sciencebasedmedicine.org">caused by</a> [sciencebasedmedicine.org] a broadening of the definition, to include people with asperger's syndrome, and people who, in the early 90s, would have been classified as having a developmental language disorder, along with an increased emphasis on diagnosing autism, and a reduced social stigma.</p><p>Of course, there is no evidence against your claim, but you may want to know that the increase in diagnoses could be just semantics.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Much , if not all , of the supposed increase in autism rates was caused by [ sciencebasedmedicine.org ] a broadening of the definition , to include people with asperger 's syndrome , and people who , in the early 90s , would have been classified as having a developmental language disorder , along with an increased emphasis on diagnosing autism , and a reduced social stigma.Of course , there is no evidence against your claim , but you may want to know that the increase in diagnoses could be just semantics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Much, if not all, of the supposed increase in autism rates was caused by [sciencebasedmedicine.org] a broadening of the definition, to include people with asperger's syndrome, and people who, in the early 90s, would have been classified as having a developmental language disorder, along with an increased emphasis on diagnosing autism, and a reduced social stigma.Of course, there is no evidence against your claim, but you may want to know that the increase in diagnoses could be just semantics.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383836</id>
	<title>One man's monotonous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259591100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is another man's my wife.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is another man 's my wife .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is another man's my wife.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30387692</id>
	<title>Re:Nobody said anything about retarded</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260458520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just a quick perusal through the thread here I thought I would point out the "retarded" posts. Some are in jest I know, but the total LACK of what autism is on here is quite shocking..<br>
<br>
<a href="http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1472708&amp;cid=30383530" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1472708&amp;cid=30383530</a> [slashdot.org] <br>
<br>
<a href="http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1472708&amp;cid=30383938" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1472708&amp;cid=30383938</a> [slashdot.org] <br>
<br>
<a href="http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1472708&amp;cid=30384052" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1472708&amp;cid=30384052</a> [slashdot.org] <br>
<br>
Some of you think that its a handicap. I suggest you read further..</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just a quick perusal through the thread here I thought I would point out the " retarded " posts .
Some are in jest I know , but the total LACK of what autism is on here is quite shocking. . http : //science.slashdot.org/comments.pl ? sid = 1472708&amp;cid = 30383530 [ slashdot.org ] http : //science.slashdot.org/comments.pl ? sid = 1472708&amp;cid = 30383938 [ slashdot.org ] http : //science.slashdot.org/comments.pl ? sid = 1472708&amp;cid = 30384052 [ slashdot.org ] Some of you think that its a handicap .
I suggest you read further. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just a quick perusal through the thread here I thought I would point out the "retarded" posts.
Some are in jest I know, but the total LACK of what autism is on here is quite shocking..

http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1472708&amp;cid=30383530 [slashdot.org] 

http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1472708&amp;cid=30383938 [slashdot.org] 

http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1472708&amp;cid=30384052 [slashdot.org] 

Some of you think that its a handicap.
I suggest you read further..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384432</id>
	<title>Re:High Functioning Autism</title>
	<author>ZzzzSleep</author>
	<datestamp>1259596560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think that this comic sums it up nicely.
<a href="http://www.homeonthestrange.com/view.php?ID=190" title="homeonthestrange.com">http://www.homeonthestrange.com/view.php?ID=190</a> [homeonthestrange.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that this comic sums it up nicely .
http : //www.homeonthestrange.com/view.php ? ID = 190 [ homeonthestrange.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that this comic sums it up nicely.
http://www.homeonthestrange.com/view.php?ID=190 [homeonthestrange.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384020</id>
	<title>Re:I see it coming...</title>
	<author>Renraku</author>
	<datestamp>1259592660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's face it.</p><p>A company is in business to make money.  They'll in no way spend money unless it'll make more money than the alternatives.  There is an ulterior motive here, and it's the hope that the people with autism will be so absorbed with their jobs they won't realize they're getting minimum wage or may not care because now they have a job they can do well.  They'll do a damn fine job at it, most likely, and they'll run off all the riff-raff (shitty testers who are just there to pirate the software and/or play games all day).</p><p>However, they'll also lower the bar.  Suddenly all QA is minimum wage only, and the overall quality of software developed drops sharply.  Remember back in the day when QA testers were usually part of the parent company?  Now most are outsourced to smaller recruiting agencies that won't even tell people if there will be any work for them tomorrow or not, because they don't know if the parent company will just up and leave.  The testers don't know shit about coding, only that throwing a grenade here will cause it to bounce back in their faces, but the software has already gone gold anyway, so it's too late to fix.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's face it.A company is in business to make money .
They 'll in no way spend money unless it 'll make more money than the alternatives .
There is an ulterior motive here , and it 's the hope that the people with autism will be so absorbed with their jobs they wo n't realize they 're getting minimum wage or may not care because now they have a job they can do well .
They 'll do a damn fine job at it , most likely , and they 'll run off all the riff-raff ( shitty testers who are just there to pirate the software and/or play games all day ) .However , they 'll also lower the bar .
Suddenly all QA is minimum wage only , and the overall quality of software developed drops sharply .
Remember back in the day when QA testers were usually part of the parent company ?
Now most are outsourced to smaller recruiting agencies that wo n't even tell people if there will be any work for them tomorrow or not , because they do n't know if the parent company will just up and leave .
The testers do n't know shit about coding , only that throwing a grenade here will cause it to bounce back in their faces , but the software has already gone gold anyway , so it 's too late to fix .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's face it.A company is in business to make money.
They'll in no way spend money unless it'll make more money than the alternatives.
There is an ulterior motive here, and it's the hope that the people with autism will be so absorbed with their jobs they won't realize they're getting minimum wage or may not care because now they have a job they can do well.
They'll do a damn fine job at it, most likely, and they'll run off all the riff-raff (shitty testers who are just there to pirate the software and/or play games all day).However, they'll also lower the bar.
Suddenly all QA is minimum wage only, and the overall quality of software developed drops sharply.
Remember back in the day when QA testers were usually part of the parent company?
Now most are outsourced to smaller recruiting agencies that won't even tell people if there will be any work for them tomorrow or not, because they don't know if the parent company will just up and leave.
The testers don't know shit about coding, only that throwing a grenade here will cause it to bounce back in their faces, but the software has already gone gold anyway, so it's too late to fix.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384824</id>
	<title>Re:Worked with one would love to have one as sidek</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259600640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>rely on autistics for tasks needing massive concentration and accuracy, I'll put all my trust in their hands.</p></div><p>The more I hear this sentiment echoed, the more I think <i>they're</i> the ones who came out right, and <i>we're</i> the ones who are broken.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>rely on autistics for tasks needing massive concentration and accuracy , I 'll put all my trust in their hands.The more I hear this sentiment echoed , the more I think they 're the ones who came out right , and we 're the ones who are broken .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>rely on autistics for tasks needing massive concentration and accuracy, I'll put all my trust in their hands.The more I hear this sentiment echoed, the more I think they're the ones who came out right, and we're the ones who are broken.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386464</id>
	<title>Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work</title>
	<author>cameigons</author>
	<datestamp>1260445980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're doing a wiiiild generalization. I work on IT/software development and am not on the autism spectrum, neither is any of my coworkers. And think I know how to spot someone with asperger's after working with them every day for a while....
I don't think Bill Gates is autistic, there's no way, he's too much adapted... people with mild autism may know how to interact socially in a pretty normal way, but those are people who really worked their asses off towards that, clearly that isn't Gates' case. He just spent most of his life talking to machines rather than people, therefore he lacked some social skills.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're doing a wiiiild generalization .
I work on IT/software development and am not on the autism spectrum , neither is any of my coworkers .
And think I know how to spot someone with asperger 's after working with them every day for a while... . I do n't think Bill Gates is autistic , there 's no way , he 's too much adapted... people with mild autism may know how to interact socially in a pretty normal way , but those are people who really worked their asses off towards that , clearly that is n't Gates ' case .
He just spent most of his life talking to machines rather than people , therefore he lacked some social skills .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're doing a wiiiild generalization.
I work on IT/software development and am not on the autism spectrum, neither is any of my coworkers.
And think I know how to spot someone with asperger's after working with them every day for a while....
I don't think Bill Gates is autistic, there's no way, he's too much adapted... people with mild autism may know how to interact socially in a pretty normal way, but those are people who really worked their asses off towards that, clearly that isn't Gates' case.
He just spent most of his life talking to machines rather than people, therefore he lacked some social skills.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383938</id>
	<title>Microsoft</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is no surprise Microsoft has been using the retarded as a QA team for windows security for YEARS</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is no surprise Microsoft has been using the retarded as a QA team for windows security for YEARS</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is no surprise Microsoft has been using the retarded as a QA team for windows security for YEARS</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384044</id>
	<title>Worked with one would love to have one as sidekick</title>
	<author>ZeroExistenZ</author>
	<datestamp>1259592840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>He was someone working halftime to "integrate into society", three years ago.<p>The project was a huge database migration, so we would give the kid excell sheets with thousands of records to compare data consistency, validating scripts and data transformations, while management smiled "that'll keep the kid busy for a few months".</p><p>Now, he loved wikipedia, and we'd only see him read franically on wikipedia... at the end of the day, he'd walk up to the IT-manager, each time again:<br>
"I'm sorry sir, I did my best today but I could only manage to go through 70\% of the list. I found some errors which I marked. Next time, I'll try harder, I don't want to dissapoint you.", while the same look of disbelief was on his face over and over again.<br>
All the consultants that passed through the project with their programming knowledge, could not match the comparing accuracy of this kid with his massive speed, while he just seemed to be reading wikipedia, apoligizing each evening when he went on his way home in all his quirkyness being very thankful to get the "opportunity to work with pcs".</p><p>It's maybe relevant to mention the project was an agressively low priced fixed project, going over  schedule so the client being hired for the project kept on dumping starters and benchers to finish the project with the problems you could imagine. It's why I was hired the period of the project to support the other consultants who were stuck in the mess they've been creating trying to get the project done.</p><p>If I would have the opportunity again to work with and rely on autistics for tasks needing massive concentration and accuracy, I'll put all my trust in their hands.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He was someone working halftime to " integrate into society " , three years ago.The project was a huge database migration , so we would give the kid excell sheets with thousands of records to compare data consistency , validating scripts and data transformations , while management smiled " that 'll keep the kid busy for a few months " .Now , he loved wikipedia , and we 'd only see him read franically on wikipedia... at the end of the day , he 'd walk up to the IT-manager , each time again : " I 'm sorry sir , I did my best today but I could only manage to go through 70 \ % of the list .
I found some errors which I marked .
Next time , I 'll try harder , I do n't want to dissapoint you .
" , while the same look of disbelief was on his face over and over again .
All the consultants that passed through the project with their programming knowledge , could not match the comparing accuracy of this kid with his massive speed , while he just seemed to be reading wikipedia , apoligizing each evening when he went on his way home in all his quirkyness being very thankful to get the " opportunity to work with pcs " .It 's maybe relevant to mention the project was an agressively low priced fixed project , going over schedule so the client being hired for the project kept on dumping starters and benchers to finish the project with the problems you could imagine .
It 's why I was hired the period of the project to support the other consultants who were stuck in the mess they 've been creating trying to get the project done.If I would have the opportunity again to work with and rely on autistics for tasks needing massive concentration and accuracy , I 'll put all my trust in their hands .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He was someone working halftime to "integrate into society", three years ago.The project was a huge database migration, so we would give the kid excell sheets with thousands of records to compare data consistency, validating scripts and data transformations, while management smiled "that'll keep the kid busy for a few months".Now, he loved wikipedia, and we'd only see him read franically on wikipedia... at the end of the day, he'd walk up to the IT-manager, each time again:
"I'm sorry sir, I did my best today but I could only manage to go through 70\% of the list.
I found some errors which I marked.
Next time, I'll try harder, I don't want to dissapoint you.
", while the same look of disbelief was on his face over and over again.
All the consultants that passed through the project with their programming knowledge, could not match the comparing accuracy of this kid with his massive speed, while he just seemed to be reading wikipedia, apoligizing each evening when he went on his way home in all his quirkyness being very thankful to get the "opportunity to work with pcs".It's maybe relevant to mention the project was an agressively low priced fixed project, going over  schedule so the client being hired for the project kept on dumping starters and benchers to finish the project with the problems you could imagine.
It's why I was hired the period of the project to support the other consultants who were stuck in the mess they've been creating trying to get the project done.If I would have the opportunity again to work with and rely on autistics for tasks needing massive concentration and accuracy, I'll put all my trust in their hands.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383606</id>
	<title>Co-workers with patience</title>
	<author>bugs2squash</author>
	<datestamp>1259589600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That will be a first for me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That will be a first for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That will be a first for me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30390508</id>
	<title>Re:I have a higher functioning autistic child</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1260469380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Most of them are better than average people.</i> What does "better" mean? In my view, nobody is really smarter than anybody else, people just specialize in different aptitudes. Einstein was a specialist at focusing on just one thing for days at a time, to the exclusion of everything else, and yet he is regarded as the epitome of genius. Your son is better than his peers at some tasks, worse than his peers at others. That doesn't make him "better than average people", that makes him "normal".</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of them are better than average people .
What does " better " mean ?
In my view , nobody is really smarter than anybody else , people just specialize in different aptitudes .
Einstein was a specialist at focusing on just one thing for days at a time , to the exclusion of everything else , and yet he is regarded as the epitome of genius .
Your son is better than his peers at some tasks , worse than his peers at others .
That does n't make him " better than average people " , that makes him " normal " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of them are better than average people.
What does "better" mean?
In my view, nobody is really smarter than anybody else, people just specialize in different aptitudes.
Einstein was a specialist at focusing on just one thing for days at a time, to the exclusion of everything else, and yet he is regarded as the epitome of genius.
Your son is better than his peers at some tasks, worse than his peers at others.
That doesn't make him "better than average people", that makes him "normal".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385976</id>
	<title>Re:Aspiritech? Specialisterne?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260439380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The term "REM" in the UK is used by children to make fun of "stupid" people. Imagine my suprise when I encounter the firm "Remploy" who specialise in employment for special needs candidates !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The term " REM " in the UK is used by children to make fun of " stupid " people .
Imagine my suprise when I encounter the firm " Remploy " who specialise in employment for special needs candidates !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The term "REM" in the UK is used by children to make fun of "stupid" people.
Imagine my suprise when I encounter the firm "Remploy" who specialise in employment for special needs candidates !</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30387756</id>
	<title>Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work</title>
	<author>BountyX</author>
	<datestamp>1260458880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>There seems to be a stereotype that quirky people are intelligent and I feel that many people leverage that stereotype to compensate for their own shortcomings (and for attention). After all, it is very advantageous to do so. Making your shortcomings "official" makes it easier for others to believe and overlook those shortcomings; however, it makes light of people who suffer from those real disorders. I believe this stereotype stems from associating perfectionism with OCD and being bored with ADD. While many intelligent people do get bored fast and may be perfectionists -- the very definitions of OCD and ADD are almost the opposite of having high fluid intelligence, which is a bit ironic.
<br> <br>
In real life, personality is NOT a very good indicator of fluid intelligence since personality is mostly a function of crystallized intelligence (which can be confounding). It has been my experience that really gifted individuals that are "quirky" do everything they possibly can to hide their quirks from other people. Their "quirky" side is only revealed in their lifestyle when you really get to know the individual and they let their guard down. They also happen to be very affluent and social. In the end, this "quirky" trend is all so Shakespearian to me. The stigma of a genius is often associated with some fatal flaw. How annoying.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There seems to be a stereotype that quirky people are intelligent and I feel that many people leverage that stereotype to compensate for their own shortcomings ( and for attention ) .
After all , it is very advantageous to do so .
Making your shortcomings " official " makes it easier for others to believe and overlook those shortcomings ; however , it makes light of people who suffer from those real disorders .
I believe this stereotype stems from associating perfectionism with OCD and being bored with ADD .
While many intelligent people do get bored fast and may be perfectionists -- the very definitions of OCD and ADD are almost the opposite of having high fluid intelligence , which is a bit ironic .
In real life , personality is NOT a very good indicator of fluid intelligence since personality is mostly a function of crystallized intelligence ( which can be confounding ) .
It has been my experience that really gifted individuals that are " quirky " do everything they possibly can to hide their quirks from other people .
Their " quirky " side is only revealed in their lifestyle when you really get to know the individual and they let their guard down .
They also happen to be very affluent and social .
In the end , this " quirky " trend is all so Shakespearian to me .
The stigma of a genius is often associated with some fatal flaw .
How annoying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There seems to be a stereotype that quirky people are intelligent and I feel that many people leverage that stereotype to compensate for their own shortcomings (and for attention).
After all, it is very advantageous to do so.
Making your shortcomings "official" makes it easier for others to believe and overlook those shortcomings; however, it makes light of people who suffer from those real disorders.
I believe this stereotype stems from associating perfectionism with OCD and being bored with ADD.
While many intelligent people do get bored fast and may be perfectionists -- the very definitions of OCD and ADD are almost the opposite of having high fluid intelligence, which is a bit ironic.
In real life, personality is NOT a very good indicator of fluid intelligence since personality is mostly a function of crystallized intelligence (which can be confounding).
It has been my experience that really gifted individuals that are "quirky" do everything they possibly can to hide their quirks from other people.
Their "quirky" side is only revealed in their lifestyle when you really get to know the individual and they let their guard down.
They also happen to be very affluent and social.
In the end, this "quirky" trend is all so Shakespearian to me.
The stigma of a genius is often associated with some fatal flaw.
How annoying.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384052</id>
	<title>Since 2004?  That's nothing.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259593020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Slashdot has been hiring mentally handicapped people as moderators since 1997.  Now that's truly groundbreaking!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot has been hiring mentally handicapped people as moderators since 1997 .
Now that 's truly groundbreaking !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot has been hiring mentally handicapped people as moderators since 1997.
Now that's truly groundbreaking!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386776</id>
	<title>Re:High Functioning Autism</title>
	<author>plastbox</author>
	<datestamp>1260450720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So.. in other words, you're a man? =P On a more serious note.. when you truly focus on a single subject, are you better at it than us "normies"?</p><p>On the topic of the Cocktail Party Effect, I seem to have problems with this as well. Just like I can't type while I speak or pay attention to something unrelated being said to me, I haven't the faintest chance of paying attention to more than one conversation at once. I'm a guy with pretty loud opinions and I like a good argument though, so I normally end up immersed in a single conversation while completely ignoring the rest of the party. =P</p><p>How do you experience this? You say you can't focus on doing more than one task, does this not apply to focusing on incoming info around you? Sorry if this is rude-like, just intrigued by the chance to speak with someone who potentially experiences the world differently from myself. =)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So.. in other words , you 're a man ?
= P On a more serious note.. when you truly focus on a single subject , are you better at it than us " normies " ? On the topic of the Cocktail Party Effect , I seem to have problems with this as well .
Just like I ca n't type while I speak or pay attention to something unrelated being said to me , I have n't the faintest chance of paying attention to more than one conversation at once .
I 'm a guy with pretty loud opinions and I like a good argument though , so I normally end up immersed in a single conversation while completely ignoring the rest of the party .
= PHow do you experience this ?
You say you ca n't focus on doing more than one task , does this not apply to focusing on incoming info around you ?
Sorry if this is rude-like , just intrigued by the chance to speak with someone who potentially experiences the world differently from myself .
= )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So.. in other words, you're a man?
=P On a more serious note.. when you truly focus on a single subject, are you better at it than us "normies"?On the topic of the Cocktail Party Effect, I seem to have problems with this as well.
Just like I can't type while I speak or pay attention to something unrelated being said to me, I haven't the faintest chance of paying attention to more than one conversation at once.
I'm a guy with pretty loud opinions and I like a good argument though, so I normally end up immersed in a single conversation while completely ignoring the rest of the party.
=PHow do you experience this?
You say you can't focus on doing more than one task, does this not apply to focusing on incoming info around you?
Sorry if this is rude-like, just intrigued by the chance to speak with someone who potentially experiences the world differently from myself.
=)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30388180</id>
	<title>Re:High Functioning Autism</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1260461280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Programming is not in the least bit abstract, as evidenced by your own sig.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Programming is not in the least bit abstract , as evidenced by your own sig .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Programming is not in the least bit abstract, as evidenced by your own sig.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383682</id>
	<title>Re:I see it coming...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259590080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not nearly as reprehensible as I find every idiot geek out there (many of them, sadly to say, on Slashdot) that seem to have some perverse need to revel in calling themselves autistic -- or at the very least "oh, I like star trek and collecting shit, so I have fucking aspergers". Ever since that "report" came out a few years ago, every single fucktard on the planet has started going around clinging to that like some crazy fucking Munchhausen crazed mother.</p><p>In this story, these aren't people who have to wear helmets and rattle off the CIA Factbook incessantly. These are people with "high functioning" autism which, again, About half of the Slashdot audience has claimed to have over the years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not nearly as reprehensible as I find every idiot geek out there ( many of them , sadly to say , on Slashdot ) that seem to have some perverse need to revel in calling themselves autistic -- or at the very least " oh , I like star trek and collecting shit , so I have fucking aspergers " .
Ever since that " report " came out a few years ago , every single fucktard on the planet has started going around clinging to that like some crazy fucking Munchhausen crazed mother.In this story , these are n't people who have to wear helmets and rattle off the CIA Factbook incessantly .
These are people with " high functioning " autism which , again , About half of the Slashdot audience has claimed to have over the years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not nearly as reprehensible as I find every idiot geek out there (many of them, sadly to say, on Slashdot) that seem to have some perverse need to revel in calling themselves autistic -- or at the very least "oh, I like star trek and collecting shit, so I have fucking aspergers".
Ever since that "report" came out a few years ago, every single fucktard on the planet has started going around clinging to that like some crazy fucking Munchhausen crazed mother.In this story, these aren't people who have to wear helmets and rattle off the CIA Factbook incessantly.
These are people with "high functioning" autism which, again, About half of the Slashdot audience has claimed to have over the years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386244</id>
	<title>autsourcing</title>
	<author>emilper</author>
	<datestamp>1260443100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Welcome to the new threat to the welfare of high-school jocks: autsourcing. It used to be that the repetitive and extremely boring tasks belonged to them.</p><p>Good news is the aspies might find ways to automate those repetitive task they were prevented to look at before.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to the new threat to the welfare of high-school jocks : autsourcing .
It used to be that the repetitive and extremely boring tasks belonged to them.Good news is the aspies might find ways to automate those repetitive task they were prevented to look at before .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to the new threat to the welfare of high-school jocks: autsourcing.
It used to be that the repetitive and extremely boring tasks belonged to them.Good news is the aspies might find ways to automate those repetitive task they were prevented to look at before.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385374</id>
	<title>Re:People... Austism does not equal Retarded!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259608380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Jesus, I would expect something better from Slashdot</p><p>You retard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Jesus , I would expect something better from SlashdotYou retard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Jesus, I would expect something better from SlashdotYou retard.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384684</id>
	<title>Re:High Functioning Autism</title>
	<author>KagakuNinja</author>
	<datestamp>1259599020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well I am a shy, anti-social geek.  And my son has been diagnosed with mild Aspergers.  I think my problems are a bit less severe, and he may grow out of the worst problems.  When I was in school in the 70s, no one understood Apergers, so I was just labeled as a loner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well I am a shy , anti-social geek .
And my son has been diagnosed with mild Aspergers .
I think my problems are a bit less severe , and he may grow out of the worst problems .
When I was in school in the 70s , no one understood Apergers , so I was just labeled as a loner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well I am a shy, anti-social geek.
And my son has been diagnosed with mild Aspergers.
I think my problems are a bit less severe, and he may grow out of the worst problems.
When I was in school in the 70s, no one understood Apergers, so I was just labeled as a loner.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385626</id>
	<title>Re:Aspiritech? Specialisterne?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260477000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Specialisterne" Means "The Specialists" or "The experts", the word "special" doesn't have the "special-ed" tinge in Danish as it has in ENglish</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Specialisterne " Means " The Specialists " or " The experts " , the word " special " does n't have the " special-ed " tinge in Danish as it has in ENglish</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Specialisterne" Means "The Specialists" or "The experts", the word "special" doesn't have the "special-ed" tinge in Danish as it has in ENglish</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383546</id>
	<title>Dupe</title>
	<author>ShakaUVM</author>
	<datestamp>1259589120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This notion was both used in Brave New World and Dean Koontz's Frankenstein - using autistic people to perform as worker bees.</p><p>That said, there's been a troubling increase of babies born on the spectrum in recent years, and so finding a productive niche for them is something I'm all for.</p><p>(And of course, they'd probably make great software programmers.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This notion was both used in Brave New World and Dean Koontz 's Frankenstein - using autistic people to perform as worker bees.That said , there 's been a troubling increase of babies born on the spectrum in recent years , and so finding a productive niche for them is something I 'm all for .
( And of course , they 'd probably make great software programmers .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This notion was both used in Brave New World and Dean Koontz's Frankenstein - using autistic people to perform as worker bees.That said, there's been a troubling increase of babies born on the spectrum in recent years, and so finding a productive niche for them is something I'm all for.
(And of course, they'd probably make great software programmers.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384086</id>
	<title>Interesting ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259593260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... that's just the kind of thing they used to say about women. 'Till we got uppity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... that 's just the kind of thing they used to say about women .
'Till we got uppity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... that's just the kind of thing they used to say about women.
'Till we got uppity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30403388</id>
	<title>Re:I have a higher functioning autistic child</title>
	<author>cffrost</author>
	<datestamp>1260553860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Data entry and software testing are for muggles.</p></div><p>You mean like Mr. Muggles, the Pomeranian? Sounds suspect to me.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Data entry and software testing are for muggles.You mean like Mr. Muggles , the Pomeranian ?
Sounds suspect to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Data entry and software testing are for muggles.You mean like Mr. Muggles, the Pomeranian?
Sounds suspect to me.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385568</id>
	<title>Re:High Functioning Autism</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260475860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yea, try telling that to someone who counts seconds when to glance away when talking with someone.  I rather not be that "Creepy guy who just stares at you."<br> <br>
Aspergers is hard.  VERY hard.  Give me a week and I can learn any programing language under the sun, but it took more than 8 years AFTER high school to figure out how to relate to other people.   Hell, my Mom died of cancer and step-dad from sucide a year apart.  I see my sister breakdown for weeks and it just dosn't phase me in that way.  Strong or phycotic, you be the judge.<br> <br>
ADHD?  You know what happens when that kicks in just right?  You stop showing up for class or work.  Maybe the only thing that gets you up in the morning is RPing on some MUD, burning though hours of Everquest.  Hell, beating Balder's Gate 4 times in a row just because you can't hold a job enough to buy anything else.  Programing?  Sure, I can program.  Only programs I WANT to make.  Tell me to make some database I am not interested in and I am never getting it done.  Give me some random untility that just decodes DTX5 compression in both Java and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.NET?  I spent weeks on that to just dump it like everything else.<br> <br>
While it sounds like I am arguing with you, I honestly agree.  It took the fact that I was skipping every other day at my job.  A GOOD job I held for 5 years, even if I am underpaid and unappreciated.  A job I COULD NOT lose to.  Two sessions with a this psychologist and I already have a prescription with Adderal XR and its like I have been living in a god damn cave all my life.  I have been in SUCH fear of even going to one that I have held off with excuse after excuse.  I hate those people who claim to be both Aspergers and ADHD and have a nice wife and kids.  That shit don't happen with somone who really has it.<br> <br>
Just the thought of being known as being mentally broken scares me more than being broken itself.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yea , try telling that to someone who counts seconds when to glance away when talking with someone .
I rather not be that " Creepy guy who just stares at you .
" Aspergers is hard .
VERY hard .
Give me a week and I can learn any programing language under the sun , but it took more than 8 years AFTER high school to figure out how to relate to other people .
Hell , my Mom died of cancer and step-dad from sucide a year apart .
I see my sister breakdown for weeks and it just dos n't phase me in that way .
Strong or phycotic , you be the judge .
ADHD ? You know what happens when that kicks in just right ?
You stop showing up for class or work .
Maybe the only thing that gets you up in the morning is RPing on some MUD , burning though hours of Everquest .
Hell , beating Balder 's Gate 4 times in a row just because you ca n't hold a job enough to buy anything else .
Programing ? Sure , I can program .
Only programs I WANT to make .
Tell me to make some database I am not interested in and I am never getting it done .
Give me some random untility that just decodes DTX5 compression in both Java and .NET ?
I spent weeks on that to just dump it like everything else .
While it sounds like I am arguing with you , I honestly agree .
It took the fact that I was skipping every other day at my job .
A GOOD job I held for 5 years , even if I am underpaid and unappreciated .
A job I COULD NOT lose to .
Two sessions with a this psychologist and I already have a prescription with Adderal XR and its like I have been living in a god damn cave all my life .
I have been in SUCH fear of even going to one that I have held off with excuse after excuse .
I hate those people who claim to be both Aspergers and ADHD and have a nice wife and kids .
That shit do n't happen with somone who really has it .
Just the thought of being known as being mentally broken scares me more than being broken itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yea, try telling that to someone who counts seconds when to glance away when talking with someone.
I rather not be that "Creepy guy who just stares at you.
" 
Aspergers is hard.
VERY hard.
Give me a week and I can learn any programing language under the sun, but it took more than 8 years AFTER high school to figure out how to relate to other people.
Hell, my Mom died of cancer and step-dad from sucide a year apart.
I see my sister breakdown for weeks and it just dosn't phase me in that way.
Strong or phycotic, you be the judge.
ADHD?  You know what happens when that kicks in just right?
You stop showing up for class or work.
Maybe the only thing that gets you up in the morning is RPing on some MUD, burning though hours of Everquest.
Hell, beating Balder's Gate 4 times in a row just because you can't hold a job enough to buy anything else.
Programing?  Sure, I can program.
Only programs I WANT to make.
Tell me to make some database I am not interested in and I am never getting it done.
Give me some random untility that just decodes DTX5 compression in both Java and .NET?
I spent weeks on that to just dump it like everything else.
While it sounds like I am arguing with you, I honestly agree.
It took the fact that I was skipping every other day at my job.
A GOOD job I held for 5 years, even if I am underpaid and unappreciated.
A job I COULD NOT lose to.
Two sessions with a this psychologist and I already have a prescription with Adderal XR and its like I have been living in a god damn cave all my life.
I have been in SUCH fear of even going to one that I have held off with excuse after excuse.
I hate those people who claim to be both Aspergers and ADHD and have a nice wife and kids.
That shit don't happen with somone who really has it.
Just the thought of being known as being mentally broken scares me more than being broken itself.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386862</id>
	<title>Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1260451620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Bill Gates is autistic (clearly). Steve Jobs probably too but to a much less noticeable degree.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
You are a twat (clearly).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bill Gates is autistic ( clearly ) .
Steve Jobs probably too but to a much less noticeable degree .
You are a twat ( clearly ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bill Gates is autistic (clearly).
Steve Jobs probably too but to a much less noticeable degree.
You are a twat (clearly).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386694</id>
	<title>Re:"predictable, monotonous work"</title>
	<author>aflag</author>
	<datestamp>1260449640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If it was predictable that certain bugs would be found then a good Engineer would always fix it before it was found, making it not predictable anymore.</p></div><p>I don't agree with that definition. Predictable bugs pass by even a good programmer and world has more bad programmers.</p><p>Moreover, care to give us an example where testing wasn't predictable and monotonous? It always seemed like that to me. Programming for most companies is already very predictable and monotonous, testing is even worse. I never found a company with an interesting testing project.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it was predictable that certain bugs would be found then a good Engineer would always fix it before it was found , making it not predictable anymore.I do n't agree with that definition .
Predictable bugs pass by even a good programmer and world has more bad programmers.Moreover , care to give us an example where testing was n't predictable and monotonous ?
It always seemed like that to me .
Programming for most companies is already very predictable and monotonous , testing is even worse .
I never found a company with an interesting testing project .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it was predictable that certain bugs would be found then a good Engineer would always fix it before it was found, making it not predictable anymore.I don't agree with that definition.
Predictable bugs pass by even a good programmer and world has more bad programmers.Moreover, care to give us an example where testing wasn't predictable and monotonous?
It always seemed like that to me.
Programming for most companies is already very predictable and monotonous, testing is even worse.
I never found a company with an interesting testing project.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30387286</id>
	<title>Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work</title>
	<author>smooth wombat</author>
	<datestamp>1260455640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><em>the guys walking around their cars every morning to check five times if their windows were up and doors were locked,</em>

<br> <br>

Funny you should say that.  Last year I was awoken late at night (midnight?  1 AM?) by the sound of car door handles being activated.  I looked out the window thinking someone was checking for unlocked doors and saw one of the folks who lives on the back side of the building doing exactly what you described.

<br> <br>

I watched him as he walked around the car checking every door (all four of them), coming to the front and looking at something on the hood, then go back to the driver door and check that it was locked before repeating the entire process again.  I don't think he did it five times but it was at least twice if not three times.

<br> <br>

Reminded me of Monk.  If one were cruel or sadistic, once the guy had walked around the car once, you'd drag him away so he couldn't check again and tie him to a chair.  Imagine the energy one could get from the all twitching as he tried to get back to his car to check the doors!</htmltext>
<tokenext>the guys walking around their cars every morning to check five times if their windows were up and doors were locked , Funny you should say that .
Last year I was awoken late at night ( midnight ?
1 AM ?
) by the sound of car door handles being activated .
I looked out the window thinking someone was checking for unlocked doors and saw one of the folks who lives on the back side of the building doing exactly what you described .
I watched him as he walked around the car checking every door ( all four of them ) , coming to the front and looking at something on the hood , then go back to the driver door and check that it was locked before repeating the entire process again .
I do n't think he did it five times but it was at least twice if not three times .
Reminded me of Monk .
If one were cruel or sadistic , once the guy had walked around the car once , you 'd drag him away so he could n't check again and tie him to a chair .
Imagine the energy one could get from the all twitching as he tried to get back to his car to check the doors !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the guys walking around their cars every morning to check five times if their windows were up and doors were locked,

 

Funny you should say that.
Last year I was awoken late at night (midnight?
1 AM?
) by the sound of car door handles being activated.
I looked out the window thinking someone was checking for unlocked doors and saw one of the folks who lives on the back side of the building doing exactly what you described.
I watched him as he walked around the car checking every door (all four of them), coming to the front and looking at something on the hood, then go back to the driver door and check that it was locked before repeating the entire process again.
I don't think he did it five times but it was at least twice if not three times.
Reminded me of Monk.
If one were cruel or sadistic, once the guy had walked around the car once, you'd drag him away so he couldn't check again and tie him to a chair.
Imagine the energy one could get from the all twitching as he tried to get back to his car to check the doors!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385552</id>
	<title>Re:consultants? nice way to get out of paying heal</title>
	<author>brucmack</author>
	<datestamp>1260475500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Consultants in Denmark have the same health care benefits as the rest of the population - it's a universal health care system.</p><p>Furthermore, the whole point of having them do this work is to give them some meaning to their lives. It is a form of health care, so to speak.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Consultants in Denmark have the same health care benefits as the rest of the population - it 's a universal health care system.Furthermore , the whole point of having them do this work is to give them some meaning to their lives .
It is a form of health care , so to speak .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Consultants in Denmark have the same health care benefits as the rest of the population - it's a universal health care system.Furthermore, the whole point of having them do this work is to give them some meaning to their lives.
It is a form of health care, so to speak.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384726</id>
	<title>Re:High Functioning Autism</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259599560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Speaking as someone diagnosed with adult ADHD, they don't (at least in my country) just hand out otherwise illegal narcotic drugs to adults based on hunches. I had to get conductive goo on my scalp and watch colours changing on a TV while wired into a computer to verify it.</p><p>The only people that get narcotic drugs based on a judgement call are children.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Speaking as someone diagnosed with adult ADHD , they do n't ( at least in my country ) just hand out otherwise illegal narcotic drugs to adults based on hunches .
I had to get conductive goo on my scalp and watch colours changing on a TV while wired into a computer to verify it.The only people that get narcotic drugs based on a judgement call are children .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Speaking as someone diagnosed with adult ADHD, they don't (at least in my country) just hand out otherwise illegal narcotic drugs to adults based on hunches.
I had to get conductive goo on my scalp and watch colours changing on a TV while wired into a computer to verify it.The only people that get narcotic drugs based on a judgement call are children.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384174</id>
	<title>Sometimes they startup their own</title>
	<author>serps</author>
	<datestamp>1259594100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Honestly, besides grocery store jobs, I have never seen other types of companies hiring these individuals.</p></div></blockquote><p>ASD isn't a barrier to
<a href="http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/about-this-blog/" title="penelopetrunk.com">founding three startup companies</a> [penelopetrunk.com] or <a href="http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/10/29/aspergers-at-work-why-im-difficult-in-meetings/" title="penelopetrunk.com">Dealing with other people in a business environment</a> [penelopetrunk.com].</p><p>Although it can be hard to <a href="http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/12/01/aspergers-at-work-why-i-need-a-sick-day-to-register-my-car/" title="penelopetrunk.com">register your car</a> [penelopetrunk.com]...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Honestly , besides grocery store jobs , I have never seen other types of companies hiring these individuals.ASD is n't a barrier to founding three startup companies [ penelopetrunk.com ] or Dealing with other people in a business environment [ penelopetrunk.com ] .Although it can be hard to register your car [ penelopetrunk.com ] .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Honestly, besides grocery store jobs, I have never seen other types of companies hiring these individuals.ASD isn't a barrier to
founding three startup companies [penelopetrunk.com] or Dealing with other people in a business environment [penelopetrunk.com].Although it can be hard to register your car [penelopetrunk.com]...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383746</id>
	<title>Suggested reading:  The Speed of Dark</title>
	<author>B5\_geek</author>
	<datestamp>1259590440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the topic of Autism, I suggest everybody read "The Speed of Dark" by Elizabeth Moon.  It puts the condition into a very approachable context that allows the reader to live through the eyes of an Autistic.  It also has a great science/research back story that us geeks like.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the topic of Autism , I suggest everybody read " The Speed of Dark " by Elizabeth Moon .
It puts the condition into a very approachable context that allows the reader to live through the eyes of an Autistic .
It also has a great science/research back story that us geeks like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the topic of Autism, I suggest everybody read "The Speed of Dark" by Elizabeth Moon.
It puts the condition into a very approachable context that allows the reader to live through the eyes of an Autistic.
It also has a great science/research back story that us geeks like.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384204</id>
	<title>I'd love this job!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259594340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have Asperger's Syndrome, which as someone said earlier is very similar to high functioning Autism. Personally, I think this is a wonderful use of my talents! I'm always so interested in little details and usability so much that I often get annoyed when people just don't seem to care about them. If I wasn't such a Linux geek, I'd take this job up (if it payed well) in a heartbeat!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have Asperger 's Syndrome , which as someone said earlier is very similar to high functioning Autism .
Personally , I think this is a wonderful use of my talents !
I 'm always so interested in little details and usability so much that I often get annoyed when people just do n't seem to care about them .
If I was n't such a Linux geek , I 'd take this job up ( if it payed well ) in a heartbeat !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have Asperger's Syndrome, which as someone said earlier is very similar to high functioning Autism.
Personally, I think this is a wonderful use of my talents!
I'm always so interested in little details and usability so much that I often get annoyed when people just don't seem to care about them.
If I wasn't such a Linux geek, I'd take this job up (if it payed well) in a heartbeat!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383650</id>
	<title>Re:Dupe</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think classification is a big reason for the apparent increase in autism and Asperger's syndrome.  Years ago a person could just be a little weird, now its always a medical condition.  And even severely autistic people might not be classified as autistic, even if they were locked away and drugged because of it.</p><p>That said, I'm not questioning that it really is increasing also.  Our environment has been changing rapidly.  And childhood has changed a lot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think classification is a big reason for the apparent increase in autism and Asperger 's syndrome .
Years ago a person could just be a little weird , now its always a medical condition .
And even severely autistic people might not be classified as autistic , even if they were locked away and drugged because of it.That said , I 'm not questioning that it really is increasing also .
Our environment has been changing rapidly .
And childhood has changed a lot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think classification is a big reason for the apparent increase in autism and Asperger's syndrome.
Years ago a person could just be a little weird, now its always a medical condition.
And even severely autistic people might not be classified as autistic, even if they were locked away and drugged because of it.That said, I'm not questioning that it really is increasing also.
Our environment has been changing rapidly.
And childhood has changed a lot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30390378</id>
	<title>Re:QA Work</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1260468960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'd usually just just ignore them</p></div><p>You&rsquo;ve got &ldquo;just&rdquo; in there one time too many.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd usually just just ignore themYou    ve got    just    in there one time too many .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd usually just just ignore themYou’ve got “just” in there one time too many.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383832</id>
	<title>As someone who does...</title>
	<author>ZeroSerenity</author>
	<datestamp>1259591040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...fall into this category, the way this article is writen is saying that every person with ASD is like this.

However, I am not.

I hate repeditive work, menial tasks and debugging. I'm a software dev anyway, but I make deal. It's just me who loves to make stuff that does what I want more easily since I am partialy lazy. I guess I'm not like everyone there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...fall into this category , the way this article is writen is saying that every person with ASD is like this .
However , I am not .
I hate repeditive work , menial tasks and debugging .
I 'm a software dev anyway , but I make deal .
It 's just me who loves to make stuff that does what I want more easily since I am partialy lazy .
I guess I 'm not like everyone there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...fall into this category, the way this article is writen is saying that every person with ASD is like this.
However, I am not.
I hate repeditive work, menial tasks and debugging.
I'm a software dev anyway, but I make deal.
It's just me who loves to make stuff that does what I want more easily since I am partialy lazy.
I guess I'm not like everyone there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383596</id>
	<title>predictable, monotonous?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>sounds like most jobs these days</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>sounds like most jobs these days</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sounds like most jobs these days</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384598</id>
	<title>No mention of "Neuromancer"?</title>
	<author>Bright Apollo</author>
	<datestamp>1259598120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The penal system's method of punishment immediately sprung to mind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The penal system 's method of punishment immediately sprung to mind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The penal system's method of punishment immediately sprung to mind.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30387564</id>
	<title>Re:Nobody said anything about retarded</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260457380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually he has been in preschool since he was 3/4 and they saw stuff there that he was doing with his peers that made them think they need to investigate it. They had him on OT and a few other programs there. He started Kindergarten this year and they saw more issues with peer to peer interaction, and over odd traits, so they suggested a testing (at no cost to us) way downstate at a university where all they deal with is this kind of stuff. They tested him for three hours with social interaction, games things like that (he had a ball, thought it was a fun day) while we could watch through a one way mirror.<br>
<br>
That's why he got tested, we went along with it, because quite frankly we was sick of the schools trying to label him and we as parents do said there was nothing wrong with him. It was just our little boy being difficult like you said. But when you read up on it and actually talk to some experts in the field about little behavior traits when he was younger (he used to line up cars ruler straight and if you so much as disturbed one he would get VERY angry and spend a good 10 mins or more lining it back up again until it was perfect. Our wanted outcome of the testing was to say there was nothing wrong with him, he's just a normal kid being difficult... But it wasnt and let me tell you as a parent to hear that is pretty mindblowing...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually he has been in preschool since he was 3/4 and they saw stuff there that he was doing with his peers that made them think they need to investigate it .
They had him on OT and a few other programs there .
He started Kindergarten this year and they saw more issues with peer to peer interaction , and over odd traits , so they suggested a testing ( at no cost to us ) way downstate at a university where all they deal with is this kind of stuff .
They tested him for three hours with social interaction , games things like that ( he had a ball , thought it was a fun day ) while we could watch through a one way mirror .
That 's why he got tested , we went along with it , because quite frankly we was sick of the schools trying to label him and we as parents do said there was nothing wrong with him .
It was just our little boy being difficult like you said .
But when you read up on it and actually talk to some experts in the field about little behavior traits when he was younger ( he used to line up cars ruler straight and if you so much as disturbed one he would get VERY angry and spend a good 10 mins or more lining it back up again until it was perfect .
Our wanted outcome of the testing was to say there was nothing wrong with him , he 's just a normal kid being difficult... But it wasnt and let me tell you as a parent to hear that is pretty mindblowing.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually he has been in preschool since he was 3/4 and they saw stuff there that he was doing with his peers that made them think they need to investigate it.
They had him on OT and a few other programs there.
He started Kindergarten this year and they saw more issues with peer to peer interaction, and over odd traits, so they suggested a testing (at no cost to us) way downstate at a university where all they deal with is this kind of stuff.
They tested him for three hours with social interaction, games things like that (he had a ball, thought it was a fun day) while we could watch through a one way mirror.
That's why he got tested, we went along with it, because quite frankly we was sick of the schools trying to label him and we as parents do said there was nothing wrong with him.
It was just our little boy being difficult like you said.
But when you read up on it and actually talk to some experts in the field about little behavior traits when he was younger (he used to line up cars ruler straight and if you so much as disturbed one he would get VERY angry and spend a good 10 mins or more lining it back up again until it was perfect.
Our wanted outcome of the testing was to say there was nothing wrong with him, he's just a normal kid being difficult... But it wasnt and let me tell you as a parent to hear that is pretty mindblowing...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384030</id>
	<title>How far does this go?</title>
	<author>negatonium</author>
	<datestamp>1259592780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And the deaf might be good at watching surveillance camera video...

And those height-challenged might be good in tight spaces....

And those uterus-enabled might be.... well you get the picture.

I guess we all "sell" what we are good at but those doing the buying should be careful of enabling exploitation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And the deaf might be good at watching surveillance camera video.. . And those height-challenged might be good in tight spaces... . And those uterus-enabled might be.... well you get the picture .
I guess we all " sell " what we are good at but those doing the buying should be careful of enabling exploitation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And the deaf might be good at watching surveillance camera video...

And those height-challenged might be good in tight spaces....

And those uterus-enabled might be.... well you get the picture.
I guess we all "sell" what we are good at but those doing the buying should be careful of enabling exploitation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386054</id>
	<title>Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260440700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>about frickin time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>about frickin time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>about frickin time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385002</id>
	<title>Re:I'd love this job!</title>
	<author>Anonymous Poodle</author>
	<datestamp>1259602800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And yet you misspelled "paid." As an AS kid, you fail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And yet you misspelled " paid .
" As an AS kid , you fail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And yet you misspelled "paid.
" As an AS kid, you fail.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30393500</id>
	<title>Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work</title>
	<author>virtualXTC</author>
	<datestamp>1260436920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My guess is it's a little of not wanting to take responsibility as you suggest, and a little of not really caring / thinking about how other people perceive you.  Then again, why should you care, you likely learned at an early age you can't 'fit-in' no matter how hard you try, so why bother, you'll just get picked on.  And who wants to appease those ass-hats anyway?   The problem is you become so trained not to care that when you finally get a job working for the man, you don't care what he thinks either....  Neither you nor your employer want to admit you have a problem because you do 'good work'  and conveniently there are these diseases that seem to explain your particular behavioral flaws.  I was recently diagnosed with adult ADD and it seems like recognizing that I SHOULD care plays a bigger part in helping with my ADD than recognizing that I actually have a problem... I've known THAT for years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My guess is it 's a little of not wanting to take responsibility as you suggest , and a little of not really caring / thinking about how other people perceive you .
Then again , why should you care , you likely learned at an early age you ca n't 'fit-in ' no matter how hard you try , so why bother , you 'll just get picked on .
And who wants to appease those ass-hats anyway ?
The problem is you become so trained not to care that when you finally get a job working for the man , you do n't care what he thinks either.... Neither you nor your employer want to admit you have a problem because you do 'good work ' and conveniently there are these diseases that seem to explain your particular behavioral flaws .
I was recently diagnosed with adult ADD and it seems like recognizing that I SHOULD care plays a bigger part in helping with my ADD than recognizing that I actually have a problem... I 've known THAT for years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My guess is it's a little of not wanting to take responsibility as you suggest, and a little of not really caring / thinking about how other people perceive you.
Then again, why should you care, you likely learned at an early age you can't 'fit-in' no matter how hard you try, so why bother, you'll just get picked on.
And who wants to appease those ass-hats anyway?
The problem is you become so trained not to care that when you finally get a job working for the man, you don't care what he thinks either....  Neither you nor your employer want to admit you have a problem because you do 'good work'  and conveniently there are these diseases that seem to explain your particular behavioral flaws.
I was recently diagnosed with adult ADD and it seems like recognizing that I SHOULD care plays a bigger part in helping with my ADD than recognizing that I actually have a problem... I've known THAT for years.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385182</id>
	<title>Re:High Functioning Autism</title>
	<author>kabloom</author>
	<datestamp>1259605140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's be more clear. There's high functioning Autism and there's low functioning Autism, and the difference between the two has to do with whether they can hold their own in intellectual settings, and whether they can live independantly. <a href="http://autism.about.com/od/whatisautism/f/whatishfa.htm" title="about.com">High Functioning Autism</a> [about.com] and <a href="http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/aswhatisit.html" title="udel.edu">Aspies</a> [udel.edu] have at least average intelligence, and can frequently be geniuses or experts in their fields.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's be more clear .
There 's high functioning Autism and there 's low functioning Autism , and the difference between the two has to do with whether they can hold their own in intellectual settings , and whether they can live independantly .
High Functioning Autism [ about.com ] and Aspies [ udel.edu ] have at least average intelligence , and can frequently be geniuses or experts in their fields .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's be more clear.
There's high functioning Autism and there's low functioning Autism, and the difference between the two has to do with whether they can hold their own in intellectual settings, and whether they can live independantly.
High Functioning Autism [about.com] and Aspies [udel.edu] have at least average intelligence, and can frequently be geniuses or experts in their fields.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Worked with one would love to have one as sidek</title>
	<author>alexo</author>
	<datestamp>1260470940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The more I hear this sentiment echoed, the more I think they're the ones who came out right, and we're the ones who are broken.</p></div></blockquote><p>What is "right"?  From an evolutionary point of view, group members have an advantage over solitary individuals.  If Autism hinders effective communication and group cohesiveness, it will be selected against.</p></div>
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<tokenext>The more I hear this sentiment echoed , the more I think they 're the ones who came out right , and we 're the ones who are broken.What is " right " ?
From an evolutionary point of view , group members have an advantage over solitary individuals .
If Autism hinders effective communication and group cohesiveness , it will be selected against .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The more I hear this sentiment echoed, the more I think they're the ones who came out right, and we're the ones who are broken.What is "right"?
From an evolutionary point of view, group members have an advantage over solitary individuals.
If Autism hinders effective communication and group cohesiveness, it will be selected against.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386164</id>
	<title>Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260442020000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry, meant to mark that "insightful".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , meant to mark that " insightful " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, meant to mark that "insightful".</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383704</id>
	<title>Re:Dupe</title>
	<author>Seumas</author>
	<datestamp>1259590140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interestingly on a similar trajectory as selfish idiots who insist on squirting out some kids on the verge of menopause (when other things, like downs syndrome goes from a 1:1200 risk to a 1:30 or worse risk).</p><p>Anyway, it's great for people to be self-sufficient as long as they are capable of fending for themselves and not at risk of being exploited in ways the "normal" worker is not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interestingly on a similar trajectory as selfish idiots who insist on squirting out some kids on the verge of menopause ( when other things , like downs syndrome goes from a 1 : 1200 risk to a 1 : 30 or worse risk ) .Anyway , it 's great for people to be self-sufficient as long as they are capable of fending for themselves and not at risk of being exploited in ways the " normal " worker is not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interestingly on a similar trajectory as selfish idiots who insist on squirting out some kids on the verge of menopause (when other things, like downs syndrome goes from a 1:1200 risk to a 1:30 or worse risk).Anyway, it's great for people to be self-sufficient as long as they are capable of fending for themselves and not at risk of being exploited in ways the "normal" worker is not.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384772</id>
	<title>Re:People... Austism does not equal Retarded!</title>
	<author>lawpoop</author>
	<datestamp>1259600220000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Well, how do you define retardation?
<br> <br>If the average functioning human mind can read emotional states of other people, can look at other people in the eye and carry on a "normal" conversation, isn't a person who can't somehow "impaired" compared to one who can? I'm not saying that they're bad or anything else like that, I'm just saying they have some specific cognitive impairments compared to an "average" person. <br> <br>For instance, I knew some people with Down's syndrome in my public school system. They were the greatest people -- warm, caring, friendly, sincere -- but when it came to things like reading and math, well, you know the story. <br> <br>Yes, I'm aware that Down's syndrome is a well-described, well-defined disease with specific genetic causes, and autism is poorly understood. All I'm saying is that autistic people, while having a good mind for facts and that sorts of things, have a poor mind for social interaction, which is kind of important. So I would argue that is it a kind of impairment.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , how do you define retardation ?
If the average functioning human mind can read emotional states of other people , can look at other people in the eye and carry on a " normal " conversation , is n't a person who ca n't somehow " impaired " compared to one who can ?
I 'm not saying that they 're bad or anything else like that , I 'm just saying they have some specific cognitive impairments compared to an " average " person .
For instance , I knew some people with Down 's syndrome in my public school system .
They were the greatest people -- warm , caring , friendly , sincere -- but when it came to things like reading and math , well , you know the story .
Yes , I 'm aware that Down 's syndrome is a well-described , well-defined disease with specific genetic causes , and autism is poorly understood .
All I 'm saying is that autistic people , while having a good mind for facts and that sorts of things , have a poor mind for social interaction , which is kind of important .
So I would argue that is it a kind of impairment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, how do you define retardation?
If the average functioning human mind can read emotional states of other people, can look at other people in the eye and carry on a "normal" conversation, isn't a person who can't somehow "impaired" compared to one who can?
I'm not saying that they're bad or anything else like that, I'm just saying they have some specific cognitive impairments compared to an "average" person.
For instance, I knew some people with Down's syndrome in my public school system.
They were the greatest people -- warm, caring, friendly, sincere -- but when it came to things like reading and math, well, you know the story.
Yes, I'm aware that Down's syndrome is a well-described, well-defined disease with specific genetic causes, and autism is poorly understood.
All I'm saying is that autistic people, while having a good mind for facts and that sorts of things, have a poor mind for social interaction, which is kind of important.
So I would argue that is it a kind of impairment.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30393040</id>
	<title>Re:High Functioning Autism</title>
	<author>Twinbee</author>
	<datestamp>1260478500000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Citations!! (recoils in horror).</p><p>I didn't know those were allowed here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Citations ! !
( recoils in horror ) .I did n't know those were allowed here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Citations!!
(recoils in horror).I didn't know those were allowed here.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386240</id>
	<title>Re:Aspiritech? Specialisterne?</title>
	<author>TheBogBrushZone</author>
	<datestamp>1260443040000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Ever notice how much bigotry is put into the mouths of other people by someone hiding behind satire?  Happens all the time here in the UK when people are speaking about The Duke of Edinburgh.  He's earned a reputation for making racist gaffes on his various public visits but for every one he's ever made there are 50 put into his mouth by comedians trying to score a cheap laugh, often much worse than anything he's ever said.  I always have to wonder exactly how much is satire, and how much is a way of disguising their own prejudice with sarcasm.  Which is more disparaging, naming companies using the words "aspire" and "specialist" or describing employed autistics as "short bus staff"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ever notice how much bigotry is put into the mouths of other people by someone hiding behind satire ?
Happens all the time here in the UK when people are speaking about The Duke of Edinburgh .
He 's earned a reputation for making racist gaffes on his various public visits but for every one he 's ever made there are 50 put into his mouth by comedians trying to score a cheap laugh , often much worse than anything he 's ever said .
I always have to wonder exactly how much is satire , and how much is a way of disguising their own prejudice with sarcasm .
Which is more disparaging , naming companies using the words " aspire " and " specialist " or describing employed autistics as " short bus staff " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ever notice how much bigotry is put into the mouths of other people by someone hiding behind satire?
Happens all the time here in the UK when people are speaking about The Duke of Edinburgh.
He's earned a reputation for making racist gaffes on his various public visits but for every one he's ever made there are 50 put into his mouth by comedians trying to score a cheap laugh, often much worse than anything he's ever said.
I always have to wonder exactly how much is satire, and how much is a way of disguising their own prejudice with sarcasm.
Which is more disparaging, naming companies using the words "aspire" and "specialist" or describing employed autistics as "short bus staff"?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385300</id>
	<title>Monotonous is a point of view....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259606940000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>We can detect things about a running machine that a hundred people walking by can't.</p><p>Being able to keep a machine humming at optimum efficiency requires the ability to absorb how things 'are' at optimum. When things go slightly out of whack, we understand how the machine works and can more quickly track down the source. The rhythm of sensing and adjusting can be like a dance.</p><p>I prefer high speed machines that require constant, minute, adjustments to maintain efficiency. High speed hydroplane or paper conversion machine.... they both have that same thrill for me, though maybe not the same health hazard level.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p><p>What I DON'T appreciate (and I've walked out on a lot of jobs for it) is when I have to add extra dance steps to my routine because someone else isn't doing their job.  (Poorly maintained machines)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We can detect things about a running machine that a hundred people walking by ca n't.Being able to keep a machine humming at optimum efficiency requires the ability to absorb how things 'are ' at optimum .
When things go slightly out of whack , we understand how the machine works and can more quickly track down the source .
The rhythm of sensing and adjusting can be like a dance.I prefer high speed machines that require constant , minute , adjustments to maintain efficiency .
High speed hydroplane or paper conversion machine.... they both have that same thrill for me , though maybe not the same health hazard level .
: DWhat I DO N'T appreciate ( and I 've walked out on a lot of jobs for it ) is when I have to add extra dance steps to my routine because someone else is n't doing their job .
( Poorly maintained machines )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We can detect things about a running machine that a hundred people walking by can't.Being able to keep a machine humming at optimum efficiency requires the ability to absorb how things 'are' at optimum.
When things go slightly out of whack, we understand how the machine works and can more quickly track down the source.
The rhythm of sensing and adjusting can be like a dance.I prefer high speed machines that require constant, minute, adjustments to maintain efficiency.
High speed hydroplane or paper conversion machine.... they both have that same thrill for me, though maybe not the same health hazard level.
:DWhat I DON'T appreciate (and I've walked out on a lot of jobs for it) is when I have to add extra dance steps to my routine because someone else isn't doing their job.
(Poorly maintained machines)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384072</id>
	<title>Re:High Functioning Autism</title>
	<author>IorDMUX</author>
	<datestamp>1259593200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>High Functioning Autism isn't really a condition that impairs people from doing more complex work.</p> </div><p>Indeed.  I have done quite a bit of thinking/independent study on this issue, and I think the best way to describe the difference between an "Autistic" brain and a "Neurotypical" brain is by comparing a GPU to a CPU.  <br> <br>A neurotypical or 'normal' brain is <b>incredibly</b> parallel, much like yon super-powered GPU's.  This parallelism is what allows the average person to walk, chew gum, carry on a conversation, breathe, and at the same time remember that they left the front door unlocked.  Scans of autistic brains, however, show markedly decreased inter-connectivity (and increased inner-connectivity) between the many regions of the brain [Citation <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17964254" title="nih.gov">1</a> [nih.gov] and <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17971078" title="nih.gov">2</a> [nih.gov]].  Therefore, it seems that a brain affected by an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) may, in some aspects, resemble the far more serially designed CPU.  <br> <br>[Note:  I understand that ASD can manifest itself very severely, extremely limiting the sufferer's interaction with the outside world.  I also know that there are other theorized neurological mechanisms at work in ASD.  For this though experiment, I want to look at an example HFA versus a comparable IQ neurotypical, to cut down on experimental "noise".]<br> <br>The popular high-functioning autism (HFA) labels "linear thinking" and "highly logical" can easily be traced back to a more serial brain, but there are plenty of other examples in the autism spectrum syndromes.  ASD sufferers are also very vulnerable to sensory over-stimulation--especially from multiple senses simultaneously, as the data simply cannot be processed at the rate that it is arriving.  At the same time, someone with ASD may be able to capture many more minor details of a single input (be it visual art, a complex symphony, etc.) than the average person.  The focus on depth rather than breadth in a subject of study is a major characteristic of HFA.  <br> <br>I have a fairly mild case of Asperger Syndrome (yes, professionally diagnosed... just listen to my point, okay?), so I have a few specific examples... For example, take my earlier walking and talking experiment: If I am carrying on a conversation while walking, I stop moving whenever I need to think about and formulate my next response.  I was (unfortunately) well known in high school and college for my all-around clumsiness, and yet I have the fine motor control and "muscle memory" to beat the most tediously annoying NES games or to manipulate and solder miniature surface mount components.  Similarly, I am a semi-professional trumpet player, but I cannot grasp the idea of using two hands at once on the piano to play two different rhythms, despite years of trying.  I consider myself a fairly skilled driver, and even enjoy singing to the steering wheel... but as soon as I find myself in heavy traffic, I cannot carry a note nor remember the lyrics to anything on the radio.  It gets turned off immediately.  This also explains why I fail so miserably at the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocktail\_party\_effect" title="wikipedia.org">"cocktail party effect"</a> [wikipedia.org], as, from my perspective, I hear everyone in the room at once and there is no hope of picking out a single conversation.  </p><p><div class="quote"><p>and people with these two conditions are the kinds of people who would can get good educations and be great programmers.</p></div><p>Maybe it even goes back farther... Just a thought:  what if our ancestral tribes benefited from having one or two members of the village who were driven to become advance scouts, staying away from the hubbub of a communal life but still sending back vital information and benefiting to the tribe as a whole?  Just a thought...</p></div>
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<tokenext>High Functioning Autism is n't really a condition that impairs people from doing more complex work .
Indeed. I have done quite a bit of thinking/independent study on this issue , and I think the best way to describe the difference between an " Autistic " brain and a " Neurotypical " brain is by comparing a GPU to a CPU .
A neurotypical or 'normal ' brain is incredibly parallel , much like yon super-powered GPU 's .
This parallelism is what allows the average person to walk , chew gum , carry on a conversation , breathe , and at the same time remember that they left the front door unlocked .
Scans of autistic brains , however , show markedly decreased inter-connectivity ( and increased inner-connectivity ) between the many regions of the brain [ Citation 1 [ nih.gov ] and 2 [ nih.gov ] ] .
Therefore , it seems that a brain affected by an autism spectrum disorder ( ASD ) may , in some aspects , resemble the far more serially designed CPU .
[ Note : I understand that ASD can manifest itself very severely , extremely limiting the sufferer 's interaction with the outside world .
I also know that there are other theorized neurological mechanisms at work in ASD .
For this though experiment , I want to look at an example HFA versus a comparable IQ neurotypical , to cut down on experimental " noise " .
] The popular high-functioning autism ( HFA ) labels " linear thinking " and " highly logical " can easily be traced back to a more serial brain , but there are plenty of other examples in the autism spectrum syndromes .
ASD sufferers are also very vulnerable to sensory over-stimulation--especially from multiple senses simultaneously , as the data simply can not be processed at the rate that it is arriving .
At the same time , someone with ASD may be able to capture many more minor details of a single input ( be it visual art , a complex symphony , etc .
) than the average person .
The focus on depth rather than breadth in a subject of study is a major characteristic of HFA .
I have a fairly mild case of Asperger Syndrome ( yes , professionally diagnosed... just listen to my point , okay ?
) , so I have a few specific examples... For example , take my earlier walking and talking experiment : If I am carrying on a conversation while walking , I stop moving whenever I need to think about and formulate my next response .
I was ( unfortunately ) well known in high school and college for my all-around clumsiness , and yet I have the fine motor control and " muscle memory " to beat the most tediously annoying NES games or to manipulate and solder miniature surface mount components .
Similarly , I am a semi-professional trumpet player , but I can not grasp the idea of using two hands at once on the piano to play two different rhythms , despite years of trying .
I consider myself a fairly skilled driver , and even enjoy singing to the steering wheel... but as soon as I find myself in heavy traffic , I can not carry a note nor remember the lyrics to anything on the radio .
It gets turned off immediately .
This also explains why I fail so miserably at the " cocktail party effect " [ wikipedia.org ] , as , from my perspective , I hear everyone in the room at once and there is no hope of picking out a single conversation .
and people with these two conditions are the kinds of people who would can get good educations and be great programmers.Maybe it even goes back farther... Just a thought : what if our ancestral tribes benefited from having one or two members of the village who were driven to become advance scouts , staying away from the hubbub of a communal life but still sending back vital information and benefiting to the tribe as a whole ?
Just a thought.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>High Functioning Autism isn't really a condition that impairs people from doing more complex work.
Indeed.  I have done quite a bit of thinking/independent study on this issue, and I think the best way to describe the difference between an "Autistic" brain and a "Neurotypical" brain is by comparing a GPU to a CPU.
A neurotypical or 'normal' brain is incredibly parallel, much like yon super-powered GPU's.
This parallelism is what allows the average person to walk, chew gum, carry on a conversation, breathe, and at the same time remember that they left the front door unlocked.
Scans of autistic brains, however, show markedly decreased inter-connectivity (and increased inner-connectivity) between the many regions of the brain [Citation 1 [nih.gov] and 2 [nih.gov]].
Therefore, it seems that a brain affected by an autism spectrum disorder (ASD) may, in some aspects, resemble the far more serially designed CPU.
[Note:  I understand that ASD can manifest itself very severely, extremely limiting the sufferer's interaction with the outside world.
I also know that there are other theorized neurological mechanisms at work in ASD.
For this though experiment, I want to look at an example HFA versus a comparable IQ neurotypical, to cut down on experimental "noise".
] The popular high-functioning autism (HFA) labels "linear thinking" and "highly logical" can easily be traced back to a more serial brain, but there are plenty of other examples in the autism spectrum syndromes.
ASD sufferers are also very vulnerable to sensory over-stimulation--especially from multiple senses simultaneously, as the data simply cannot be processed at the rate that it is arriving.
At the same time, someone with ASD may be able to capture many more minor details of a single input (be it visual art, a complex symphony, etc.
) than the average person.
The focus on depth rather than breadth in a subject of study is a major characteristic of HFA.
I have a fairly mild case of Asperger Syndrome (yes, professionally diagnosed... just listen to my point, okay?
), so I have a few specific examples... For example, take my earlier walking and talking experiment: If I am carrying on a conversation while walking, I stop moving whenever I need to think about and formulate my next response.
I was (unfortunately) well known in high school and college for my all-around clumsiness, and yet I have the fine motor control and "muscle memory" to beat the most tediously annoying NES games or to manipulate and solder miniature surface mount components.
Similarly, I am a semi-professional trumpet player, but I cannot grasp the idea of using two hands at once on the piano to play two different rhythms, despite years of trying.
I consider myself a fairly skilled driver, and even enjoy singing to the steering wheel... but as soon as I find myself in heavy traffic, I cannot carry a note nor remember the lyrics to anything on the radio.
It gets turned off immediately.
This also explains why I fail so miserably at the "cocktail party effect" [wikipedia.org], as, from my perspective, I hear everyone in the room at once and there is no hope of picking out a single conversation.
and people with these two conditions are the kinds of people who would can get good educations and be great programmers.Maybe it even goes back farther... Just a thought:  what if our ancestral tribes benefited from having one or two members of the village who were driven to become advance scouts, staying away from the hubbub of a communal life but still sending back vital information and benefiting to the tribe as a whole?
Just a thought...
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	<title>Perfect!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sure they are also willing work for very low pay and have terrible negotiating skills!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure they are also willing work for very low pay and have terrible negotiating skills !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure they are also willing work for very low pay and have terrible negotiating skills!</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Dupe</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259610000000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>You don't seem to understand autism.  Many autistic people have abilities that far exceed the average person, it's just that such abilities usually congregate around a specific area rather than more generalized knowledge that average people have.  Equating autism with downs syndrome is simply an unhelpful comparison.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't seem to understand autism .
Many autistic people have abilities that far exceed the average person , it 's just that such abilities usually congregate around a specific area rather than more generalized knowledge that average people have .
Equating autism with downs syndrome is simply an unhelpful comparison .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't seem to understand autism.
Many autistic people have abilities that far exceed the average person, it's just that such abilities usually congregate around a specific area rather than more generalized knowledge that average people have.
Equating autism with downs syndrome is simply an unhelpful comparison.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30388212</id>
	<title>Re:"predictable, monotonous work"</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1260461460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I take it you&rsquo;ve never meticulously covered every square inch of a virtual game world looking for gaps a character might fall through.</p><p>I haven&rsquo;t either, just to be clear. Game testers have to do it, though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I take it you    ve never meticulously covered every square inch of a virtual game world looking for gaps a character might fall through.I haven    t either , just to be clear .
Game testers have to do it , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I take it you’ve never meticulously covered every square inch of a virtual game world looking for gaps a character might fall through.I haven’t either, just to be clear.
Game testers have to do it, though.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30390762</id>
	<title>Re:this is true</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1260470280000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I&rsquo;m similar, though not employed in that sort of field.</p><p>My code has to be bullet-proof, or I&rsquo;m not satisfied with it. I basically ask at every step, &ldquo;what could possibly happen here&rdquo; (particularly when it comes to user interaction with the program). My answer to that question is as exhaustive as practical.</p><p>In fact, one of the first programs I ever played with was a BASIC program which started off by asking for a number. If you entered a non-number, the program crashed. The first thing I did to it was get the BASIC reference manual and figure out how to keep it from crashing, and have it repeat its query if you answered with a non-number.</p><p>Something along the lines of this, IIRC:</p><blockquote><div><p>10 INPUT "Enter an integer: ", A$ : A = INT(VAL(A$))<br>20 B$ = STR$(A) : IF LEFT$(B$, 1) = " " THEN B$ = MID$(B$, 2)<br>30 IF A$ &lt;&gt; B$ THEN PRINT "That is not an integer." : GOTO 10</p></div></blockquote><p>The VAL function finds as much as it can before giving up, but never crashes the program... VAL("A") = 0, VAL("1b") = 1, VAL("3.2 inches") = 3.2, etc. The STR$ function uses a space character in place of the plus sign, which is why I stripped it.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I    m similar , though not employed in that sort of field.My code has to be bullet-proof , or I    m not satisfied with it .
I basically ask at every step ,    what could possibly happen here    ( particularly when it comes to user interaction with the program ) .
My answer to that question is as exhaustive as practical.In fact , one of the first programs I ever played with was a BASIC program which started off by asking for a number .
If you entered a non-number , the program crashed .
The first thing I did to it was get the BASIC reference manual and figure out how to keep it from crashing , and have it repeat its query if you answered with a non-number.Something along the lines of this , IIRC : 10 INPUT " Enter an integer : " , A $ : A = INT ( VAL ( A $ ) ) 20 B $ = STR $ ( A ) : IF LEFT $ ( B $ , 1 ) = " " THEN B $ = MID $ ( B $ , 2 ) 30 IF A $ B $ THEN PRINT " That is not an integer .
" : GOTO 10The VAL function finds as much as it can before giving up , but never crashes the program... VAL ( " A " ) = 0 , VAL ( " 1b " ) = 1 , VAL ( " 3.2 inches " ) = 3.2 , etc .
The STR $ function uses a space character in place of the plus sign , which is why I stripped it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I’m similar, though not employed in that sort of field.My code has to be bullet-proof, or I’m not satisfied with it.
I basically ask at every step, “what could possibly happen here” (particularly when it comes to user interaction with the program).
My answer to that question is as exhaustive as practical.In fact, one of the first programs I ever played with was a BASIC program which started off by asking for a number.
If you entered a non-number, the program crashed.
The first thing I did to it was get the BASIC reference manual and figure out how to keep it from crashing, and have it repeat its query if you answered with a non-number.Something along the lines of this, IIRC:10 INPUT "Enter an integer: ", A$ : A = INT(VAL(A$))20 B$ = STR$(A) : IF LEFT$(B$, 1) = " " THEN B$ = MID$(B$, 2)30 IF A$  B$ THEN PRINT "That is not an integer.
" : GOTO 10The VAL function finds as much as it can before giving up, but never crashes the program... VAL("A") = 0, VAL("1b") = 1, VAL("3.2 inches") = 3.2, etc.
The STR$ function uses a space character in place of the plus sign, which is why I stripped it.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384012</id>
	<title>Brilliant!</title>
	<author>sneakyimp</author>
	<datestamp>1259592600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whoever came up with this idea is a complete fucking genius. I feel really sorry for the engineers though.  It will never work well enough to fully satisfy the testing team.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whoever came up with this idea is a complete fucking genius .
I feel really sorry for the engineers though .
It will never work well enough to fully satisfy the testing team .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whoever came up with this idea is a complete fucking genius.
I feel really sorry for the engineers though.
It will never work well enough to fully satisfy the testing team.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384188</id>
	<title>People... Austism does not equal Retarded!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259594220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext>Jesus, I would expect something better from Slashdot<br>
<br>
A lot of you are suggesting that high function Autism is mental retardation. It ISN'T!.<br>
<br>
I am very disgusted with the fact that people on here are totally blinkered and think its retardation. My 5 yr old son, just last week was tested for three hours and its been found that he has slight Autism. He is NOT retarded in any way shape or form. He is an exceptionally intelligent little boy. He just has trouble focusing on simple to learn tasks that are not within his interest. Case and point, at age 2 he could tell you what every single car was in the parking lot by looking at the manufacture's logo. Every one. even the odd ones that you don't see a lot of like Ferrari and Lamborghini (well you don't see many here in the white mountains of New Hampshire).<br>
At age 3 his focus went from that to NASCAR, and he could tell you every driver, sponsor, number, what car they drove. Now he is into trains, he can watch an episode of Thomas the Tank engine and recite the whole episode word for word in order after watching it ONCE. He could read at age 3, he could write his name at age 4. He can count to 30+ and knew all his ABC's at 2 and a 1/2.<br>
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However he has problems if you break his routine, when he talks to you he will turn every conversation around to focus on what he is interested in. He has social skill problems when he deals with his peers who are of the same age. Adults not really a problem, and thats due to most adults being of a higher level than most kids his age. I personally think he has aspergers as he is very social and will will approach people and talk to them. We have has some simple tasks like one half of potty training that he still hasn't mastered at age 5, and we now know how to handle that, because all the ways we were trying were disrupting his routine.<br>
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The pediatrician came up with a very good example of how his life will be with it. If for example he decided to work at a museum as the resident Ornithologist because that is what he was interested in, he would excel at that job. He would have a perfect memory for that task and would know EVERYTHING about it. He would be a walking encyclopedia on the subject. Everything else would be secondary.<br>
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If he took up programming he would excel at it if he was interested in it. Seriously HOW IS THAT RETARDATION? Low functioning Autism is totally different end of the spectrum. Its just that all Autistic people have their brains wired differently, they are NOT retarded.<br>
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I suggest you read this before posting any more retarded posts ok?<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People\_speculated\_to\_have\_been\_autistic" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People\_speculated\_to\_have\_been\_autistic</a> [wikipedia.org] <br>
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Remember the article says High-functioning autism, please don't jump on the short bus as many of you have on here.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Jesus , I would expect something better from Slashdot A lot of you are suggesting that high function Autism is mental retardation .
It IS N'T ! .
I am very disgusted with the fact that people on here are totally blinkered and think its retardation .
My 5 yr old son , just last week was tested for three hours and its been found that he has slight Autism .
He is NOT retarded in any way shape or form .
He is an exceptionally intelligent little boy .
He just has trouble focusing on simple to learn tasks that are not within his interest .
Case and point , at age 2 he could tell you what every single car was in the parking lot by looking at the manufacture 's logo .
Every one .
even the odd ones that you do n't see a lot of like Ferrari and Lamborghini ( well you do n't see many here in the white mountains of New Hampshire ) .
At age 3 his focus went from that to NASCAR , and he could tell you every driver , sponsor , number , what car they drove .
Now he is into trains , he can watch an episode of Thomas the Tank engine and recite the whole episode word for word in order after watching it ONCE .
He could read at age 3 , he could write his name at age 4 .
He can count to 30 + and knew all his ABC 's at 2 and a 1/2 .
However he has problems if you break his routine , when he talks to you he will turn every conversation around to focus on what he is interested in .
He has social skill problems when he deals with his peers who are of the same age .
Adults not really a problem , and thats due to most adults being of a higher level than most kids his age .
I personally think he has aspergers as he is very social and will will approach people and talk to them .
We have has some simple tasks like one half of potty training that he still has n't mastered at age 5 , and we now know how to handle that , because all the ways we were trying were disrupting his routine .
The pediatrician came up with a very good example of how his life will be with it .
If for example he decided to work at a museum as the resident Ornithologist because that is what he was interested in , he would excel at that job .
He would have a perfect memory for that task and would know EVERYTHING about it .
He would be a walking encyclopedia on the subject .
Everything else would be secondary .
If he took up programming he would excel at it if he was interested in it .
Seriously HOW IS THAT RETARDATION ?
Low functioning Autism is totally different end of the spectrum .
Its just that all Autistic people have their brains wired differently , they are NOT retarded .
I suggest you read this before posting any more retarded posts ok ?
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People \ _speculated \ _to \ _have \ _been \ _autistic [ wikipedia.org ] Remember the article says High-functioning autism , please do n't jump on the short bus as many of you have on here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jesus, I would expect something better from Slashdot

A lot of you are suggesting that high function Autism is mental retardation.
It ISN'T!.
I am very disgusted with the fact that people on here are totally blinkered and think its retardation.
My 5 yr old son, just last week was tested for three hours and its been found that he has slight Autism.
He is NOT retarded in any way shape or form.
He is an exceptionally intelligent little boy.
He just has trouble focusing on simple to learn tasks that are not within his interest.
Case and point, at age 2 he could tell you what every single car was in the parking lot by looking at the manufacture's logo.
Every one.
even the odd ones that you don't see a lot of like Ferrari and Lamborghini (well you don't see many here in the white mountains of New Hampshire).
At age 3 his focus went from that to NASCAR, and he could tell you every driver, sponsor, number, what car they drove.
Now he is into trains, he can watch an episode of Thomas the Tank engine and recite the whole episode word for word in order after watching it ONCE.
He could read at age 3, he could write his name at age 4.
He can count to 30+ and knew all his ABC's at 2 and a 1/2.
However he has problems if you break his routine, when he talks to you he will turn every conversation around to focus on what he is interested in.
He has social skill problems when he deals with his peers who are of the same age.
Adults not really a problem, and thats due to most adults being of a higher level than most kids his age.
I personally think he has aspergers as he is very social and will will approach people and talk to them.
We have has some simple tasks like one half of potty training that he still hasn't mastered at age 5, and we now know how to handle that, because all the ways we were trying were disrupting his routine.
The pediatrician came up with a very good example of how his life will be with it.
If for example he decided to work at a museum as the resident Ornithologist because that is what he was interested in, he would excel at that job.
He would have a perfect memory for that task and would know EVERYTHING about it.
He would be a walking encyclopedia on the subject.
Everything else would be secondary.
If he took up programming he would excel at it if he was interested in it.
Seriously HOW IS THAT RETARDATION?
Low functioning Autism is totally different end of the spectrum.
Its just that all Autistic people have their brains wired differently, they are NOT retarded.
I suggest you read this before posting any more retarded posts ok?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People\_speculated\_to\_have\_been\_autistic [wikipedia.org] 

Remember the article says High-functioning autism, please don't jump on the short bus as many of you have on here.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385722</id>
	<title>it's all about cheap labor</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260478680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>All you have to do is pay them in cheaply-painted clay Sonichu medallions instead of money and they're content with their lives.</htmltext>
<tokenext>All you have to do is pay them in cheaply-painted clay Sonichu medallions instead of money and they 're content with their lives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All you have to do is pay them in cheaply-painted clay Sonichu medallions instead of money and they're content with their lives.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384802</id>
	<title>this is true</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259600400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have mild aspergers and a controllable obsession with patterns and perfection and flaws in logic.  I'm also a very, very skilled software tester (and programmer) so I guess it's true.  I catch things that nobody else does and they seem so obvious to me.  I've had a few contract testing jobs and I ripped those software packages a new one in every case.  Once the designers stopped being pissed at me for finding so many problems, they fixed them and were happy they hired me<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P
So what if my brain doesn't associate names with faces with events and I have a poor concept of time, I'm going to pick out dozens of bugs in your software really quickly lol.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have mild aspergers and a controllable obsession with patterns and perfection and flaws in logic .
I 'm also a very , very skilled software tester ( and programmer ) so I guess it 's true .
I catch things that nobody else does and they seem so obvious to me .
I 've had a few contract testing jobs and I ripped those software packages a new one in every case .
Once the designers stopped being pissed at me for finding so many problems , they fixed them and were happy they hired me : P So what if my brain does n't associate names with faces with events and I have a poor concept of time , I 'm going to pick out dozens of bugs in your software really quickly lol .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have mild aspergers and a controllable obsession with patterns and perfection and flaws in logic.
I'm also a very, very skilled software tester (and programmer) so I guess it's true.
I catch things that nobody else does and they seem so obvious to me.
I've had a few contract testing jobs and I ripped those software packages a new one in every case.
Once the designers stopped being pissed at me for finding so many problems, they fixed them and were happy they hired me :P
So what if my brain doesn't associate names with faces with events and I have a poor concept of time, I'm going to pick out dozens of bugs in your software really quickly lol.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384104</id>
	<title>Re:I see it coming...</title>
	<author>neight108</author>
	<datestamp>1259593440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One of the businesses in my area has been hiring people with mental and developmental disabilities for decades.  <a href="http://www.fairhavenind.com/outsourcing\_services.html" title="fairhavenind.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.fairhavenind.com/outsourcing\_services.html</a> [fairhavenind.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the businesses in my area has been hiring people with mental and developmental disabilities for decades .
http : //www.fairhavenind.com/outsourcing \ _services.html [ fairhavenind.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the businesses in my area has been hiring people with mental and developmental disabilities for decades.
http://www.fairhavenind.com/outsourcing\_services.html [fairhavenind.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383588</id>
	<title>consultants? nice way to get out of paying  health</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1259589420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>consultants? nice way to get out of paying for there health care and makeing them pay all the taxes on there own. How about helping and makeing them w2 workers?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>consultants ?
nice way to get out of paying for there health care and makeing them pay all the taxes on there own .
How about helping and makeing them w2 workers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>consultants?
nice way to get out of paying for there health care and makeing them pay all the taxes on there own.
How about helping and makeing them w2 workers?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384198</id>
	<title>Re:I see it coming...</title>
	<author>mhajicek</author>
	<datestamp>1259594280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a friend who's borderline autistic that also happens to be highly intelligent, and is an accomplished programmer and technical writer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a friend who 's borderline autistic that also happens to be highly intelligent , and is an accomplished programmer and technical writer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a friend who's borderline autistic that also happens to be highly intelligent, and is an accomplished programmer and technical writer.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30390116</id>
	<title>A better idea</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1260468180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>...autistics have a talent for spotting imperfections, and thrive on predictable, monotonous work.</i> Great... so then why doesn't the TSA hire them to monitor the X-ray machines?</htmltext>
<tokenext>...autistics have a talent for spotting imperfections , and thrive on predictable , monotonous work .
Great... so then why does n't the TSA hire them to monitor the X-ray machines ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...autistics have a talent for spotting imperfections, and thrive on predictable, monotonous work.
Great... so then why doesn't the TSA hire them to monitor the X-ray machines?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385768</id>
	<title>Re:People... Austism does not equal Retarded!</title>
	<author>LordLimecat</author>
	<datestamp>1260436080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If the average functioning human mind can read emotional states of other people, can look at other people in the eye and carry on a "normal" conversation, isn't a person who can't somehow "impaired" compared to one who can</p></div><p>If he can factor large primes in his head and a normal person cant, would you still consider him impaired?  Autistic folks have many gifts that "normal" people dont, so calling them impaired is about as silly as calling you impaired because youre not a quantum physicist.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the average functioning human mind can read emotional states of other people , can look at other people in the eye and carry on a " normal " conversation , is n't a person who ca n't somehow " impaired " compared to one who canIf he can factor large primes in his head and a normal person cant , would you still consider him impaired ?
Autistic folks have many gifts that " normal " people dont , so calling them impaired is about as silly as calling you impaired because youre not a quantum physicist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the average functioning human mind can read emotional states of other people, can look at other people in the eye and carry on a "normal" conversation, isn't a person who can't somehow "impaired" compared to one who canIf he can factor large primes in his head and a normal person cant, would you still consider him impaired?
Autistic folks have many gifts that "normal" people dont, so calling them impaired is about as silly as calling you impaired because youre not a quantum physicist.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30389578</id>
	<title>Re:Data Sourcing</title>
	<author>NightlordTW</author>
	<datestamp>1260466620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>there is a difference in the ability to sense a situation, and the knowledge how to deal with it</htmltext>
<tokenext>there is a difference in the ability to sense a situation , and the knowledge how to deal with it</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there is a difference in the ability to sense a situation, and the knowledge how to deal with it</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385650</id>
	<title>Re:Dupe</title>
	<author>Per Wigren</author>
	<datestamp>1260477360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>All I see is a troubling increase in society's inability to make natural room for persons with neurological "disorders" (personality types having a hard time living up to society's expectations).<br><br>Previously, most non-neurotypical persons could live pretty normal lives. They could get monotonous jobs in factories, work as mechanics or work as programmers/engineers/mathematicans/scientists without needing much social interaction. There was no real need for a diagnosis.<br><br>Nowadays however, most of those physical jobs have been replaced by robots and to get a job as a programmer you usually need good social skills and it will be expected of you to be unshy and be able to hold presentations in front of people. Few will hire "goofy" persons for anything anymore unless they already have a proven track record. Also, the expected level of continous, non-stop productivity per person has risen to whole new levels compared to just a decade ago.<br><br>This makes people with Asperger's and other neurological "disorders" no longer able to find somewhere where they can naturally fit in. This will cause them to think "what the hell is wrong with me?" and seek for answers. Naturally, this will get a lot of them a diagnosis.<br><br>This is what I think is the true cause of the increase in the number of diagnoses.</htmltext>
<tokenext>All I see is a troubling increase in society 's inability to make natural room for persons with neurological " disorders " ( personality types having a hard time living up to society 's expectations ) .Previously , most non-neurotypical persons could live pretty normal lives .
They could get monotonous jobs in factories , work as mechanics or work as programmers/engineers/mathematicans/scientists without needing much social interaction .
There was no real need for a diagnosis.Nowadays however , most of those physical jobs have been replaced by robots and to get a job as a programmer you usually need good social skills and it will be expected of you to be unshy and be able to hold presentations in front of people .
Few will hire " goofy " persons for anything anymore unless they already have a proven track record .
Also , the expected level of continous , non-stop productivity per person has risen to whole new levels compared to just a decade ago.This makes people with Asperger 's and other neurological " disorders " no longer able to find somewhere where they can naturally fit in .
This will cause them to think " what the hell is wrong with me ?
" and seek for answers .
Naturally , this will get a lot of them a diagnosis.This is what I think is the true cause of the increase in the number of diagnoses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All I see is a troubling increase in society's inability to make natural room for persons with neurological "disorders" (personality types having a hard time living up to society's expectations).Previously, most non-neurotypical persons could live pretty normal lives.
They could get monotonous jobs in factories, work as mechanics or work as programmers/engineers/mathematicans/scientists without needing much social interaction.
There was no real need for a diagnosis.Nowadays however, most of those physical jobs have been replaced by robots and to get a job as a programmer you usually need good social skills and it will be expected of you to be unshy and be able to hold presentations in front of people.
Few will hire "goofy" persons for anything anymore unless they already have a proven track record.
Also, the expected level of continous, non-stop productivity per person has risen to whole new levels compared to just a decade ago.This makes people with Asperger's and other neurological "disorders" no longer able to find somewhere where they can naturally fit in.
This will cause them to think "what the hell is wrong with me?
" and seek for answers.
Naturally, this will get a lot of them a diagnosis.This is what I think is the true cause of the increase in the number of diagnoses.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386314</id>
	<title>Newsworthy because????</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260443940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This kinda stuff has been done all over Europe for many years, and I suspect the same in the US. How is this newsworthy? Just because the american company needed some publicity?</p><p>Hell, I know several software &amp; SaaS development companies that have autistic people just for this. You don't even need an external company to train &amp; employ them.</p><p>We are a small enterprise, and we employ one such person for 3 days a week.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This kinda stuff has been done all over Europe for many years , and I suspect the same in the US .
How is this newsworthy ?
Just because the american company needed some publicity ? Hell , I know several software &amp; SaaS development companies that have autistic people just for this .
You do n't even need an external company to train &amp; employ them.We are a small enterprise , and we employ one such person for 3 days a week .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This kinda stuff has been done all over Europe for many years, and I suspect the same in the US.
How is this newsworthy?
Just because the american company needed some publicity?Hell, I know several software &amp; SaaS development companies that have autistic people just for this.
You don't even need an external company to train &amp; employ them.We are a small enterprise, and we employ one such person for 3 days a week.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30387062</id>
	<title>Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work</title>
	<author>mdmkolbe</author>
	<datestamp>1260453780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"It is really hard for me to get to work on time because of my OCD and ADD"</p></div><p>Somehow I can't picture OCD and ADD at the same time.  Wouldn't they kind of cancel each other out?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" It is really hard for me to get to work on time because of my OCD and ADD " Somehow I ca n't picture OCD and ADD at the same time .
Would n't they kind of cancel each other out ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It is really hard for me to get to work on time because of my OCD and ADD"Somehow I can't picture OCD and ADD at the same time.
Wouldn't they kind of cancel each other out?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384608</id>
	<title>Re:I see it coming...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259598240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Need to be a bit careful as there is a fair bit of variability with high level autistics. I know, I am one. I basically work as a programmer and database guy and I really like data cleaning etc but... When the, I suppose you could say, mini obsession, wears off it dies big time and you really don't want to do that any more. You want something else to get obsessed about for a while. The problem is you can get type-cast with people thinking " lets give this guy nothing but the boring repetitive stuff because he likes it and doesn't want new stuff". Well we are human and a bit of both is cool. But then I suppose that the companies that are doing the training have worked this out and take that into account. Quite frankly what sounds cool to me is going somewhere for a few weeks to de-rubbish their data and then having to go and do it again, but with different data. Trouble is I can get real emotional when I fix a big mess and then people proceed to mess it up again. And we can get real emotional about that!! Another side that "normals" might find weird/amusing is that going somewhere new as a consultant is the stressful part because you have to deal with new people and that can be quite a challenge. I've sort of learned to good "normal" act over the years. People know I'm a bit weird but very few have worked out specifically whats going on. But still you never get completely used to it. A new, messed up database, especially one you can re-arrange - bring it on baby, bring it on!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Need to be a bit careful as there is a fair bit of variability with high level autistics .
I know , I am one .
I basically work as a programmer and database guy and I really like data cleaning etc but... When the , I suppose you could say , mini obsession , wears off it dies big time and you really do n't want to do that any more .
You want something else to get obsessed about for a while .
The problem is you can get type-cast with people thinking " lets give this guy nothing but the boring repetitive stuff because he likes it and does n't want new stuff " .
Well we are human and a bit of both is cool .
But then I suppose that the companies that are doing the training have worked this out and take that into account .
Quite frankly what sounds cool to me is going somewhere for a few weeks to de-rubbish their data and then having to go and do it again , but with different data .
Trouble is I can get real emotional when I fix a big mess and then people proceed to mess it up again .
And we can get real emotional about that ! !
Another side that " normals " might find weird/amusing is that going somewhere new as a consultant is the stressful part because you have to deal with new people and that can be quite a challenge .
I 've sort of learned to good " normal " act over the years .
People know I 'm a bit weird but very few have worked out specifically whats going on .
But still you never get completely used to it .
A new , messed up database , especially one you can re-arrange - bring it on baby , bring it on !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Need to be a bit careful as there is a fair bit of variability with high level autistics.
I know, I am one.
I basically work as a programmer and database guy and I really like data cleaning etc but... When the, I suppose you could say, mini obsession, wears off it dies big time and you really don't want to do that any more.
You want something else to get obsessed about for a while.
The problem is you can get type-cast with people thinking " lets give this guy nothing but the boring repetitive stuff because he likes it and doesn't want new stuff".
Well we are human and a bit of both is cool.
But then I suppose that the companies that are doing the training have worked this out and take that into account.
Quite frankly what sounds cool to me is going somewhere for a few weeks to de-rubbish their data and then having to go and do it again, but with different data.
Trouble is I can get real emotional when I fix a big mess and then people proceed to mess it up again.
And we can get real emotional about that!!
Another side that "normals" might find weird/amusing is that going somewhere new as a consultant is the stressful part because you have to deal with new people and that can be quite a challenge.
I've sort of learned to good "normal" act over the years.
People know I'm a bit weird but very few have worked out specifically whats going on.
But still you never get completely used to it.
A new, messed up database, especially one you can re-arrange - bring it on baby, bring it on!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385750</id>
	<title>Re:High Functioning Autism</title>
	<author>LordLimecat</author>
	<datestamp>1260435780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I can see why this would lead to success in programming, but they would fail at many other professions.</p></div><p>Programming involves a very high level of abstraction, so im not really clear how you got from A to B there.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can see why this would lead to success in programming , but they would fail at many other professions.Programming involves a very high level of abstraction , so im not really clear how you got from A to B there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can see why this would lead to success in programming, but they would fail at many other professions.Programming involves a very high level of abstraction, so im not really clear how you got from A to B there.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384408</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>dkleinsc</author>
	<datestamp>1259596380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not at all. Managers more than anything else have to be able to read and influence people, which exactly what autistic people have the hardest time doing.</p><p>They're likely to accidentally quote Tom Spikowski, and say "I have people skills! I am good at dealing with people!! Can't you understand that?! What the hell is wrong with you people?!?!"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not at all .
Managers more than anything else have to be able to read and influence people , which exactly what autistic people have the hardest time doing.They 're likely to accidentally quote Tom Spikowski , and say " I have people skills !
I am good at dealing with people ! !
Ca n't you understand that ? !
What the hell is wrong with you people ? ! ? !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not at all.
Managers more than anything else have to be able to read and influence people, which exactly what autistic people have the hardest time doing.They're likely to accidentally quote Tom Spikowski, and say "I have people skills!
I am good at dealing with people!!
Can't you understand that?!
What the hell is wrong with you people?!?!
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383514</id>
	<title>If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They own the future.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They own the future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They own the future.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385444</id>
	<title>Re:Aspiritech? Specialisterne?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259609640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Spesialist" is the translation of Expert from danish to english... So personally I think it is a clever name<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-p</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Spesialist " is the translation of Expert from danish to english... So personally I think it is a clever name : -p</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Spesialist" is the translation of Expert from danish to english... So personally I think it is a clever name :-p</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386834</id>
	<title>Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work</title>
	<author>Delkster</author>
	<datestamp>1260451320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Would you like a bug with thaaaat. Would you like a bug with thaaaat.</p></div><p>I didn't know that was an optional ingredient.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would you like a bug with thaaaat .
Would you like a bug with thaaaat.I did n't know that was an optional ingredient .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would you like a bug with thaaaat.
Would you like a bug with thaaaat.I didn't know that was an optional ingredient.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386500</id>
	<title>Re:I see it coming...</title>
	<author>Krneki</author>
	<datestamp>1260446580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apparently they are excellent hackers.<br><br>http://www.google.si/#hl=en&amp;ei=StUgS9GsNIqe\_gbIrKitCg&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=spell&amp;resnum=0&amp;ct=result&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=0CA8QBSgA&amp;q=autism+hacker&amp;spell=1&amp;fp=80c836941a650c50</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently they are excellent hackers.http : //www.google.si/ # hl = en&amp;ei = StUgS9GsNIqe \ _gbIrKitCg&amp;sa = X&amp;oi = spell&amp;resnum = 0&amp;ct = result&amp;cd = 1&amp;ved = 0CA8QBSgA&amp;q = autism + hacker&amp;spell = 1&amp;fp = 80c836941a650c50</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently they are excellent hackers.http://www.google.si/#hl=en&amp;ei=StUgS9GsNIqe\_gbIrKitCg&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=spell&amp;resnum=0&amp;ct=result&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=0CA8QBSgA&amp;q=autism+hacker&amp;spell=1&amp;fp=80c836941a650c50</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383958</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>matzahboy</author>
	<datestamp>1259592300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>
"The company says autistics have a talent for spotting imperfections, and thrive on predictable, monotonous work."
</p><p>
Sounds like manager material to me.</p></div><p>No... because people with autism are terrible at dealing with people. Their social skills are horrible.

I'll give you an example. Many autistic children have to be taught how to recognize and make facial expressions. They do not figure it out on their own.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The company says autistics have a talent for spotting imperfections , and thrive on predictable , monotonous work .
" Sounds like manager material to me.No... because people with autism are terrible at dealing with people .
Their social skills are horrible .
I 'll give you an example .
Many autistic children have to be taught how to recognize and make facial expressions .
They do not figure it out on their own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
"The company says autistics have a talent for spotting imperfections, and thrive on predictable, monotonous work.
"

Sounds like manager material to me.No... because people with autism are terrible at dealing with people.
Their social skills are horrible.
I'll give you an example.
Many autistic children have to be taught how to recognize and make facial expressions.
They do not figure it out on their own.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385478</id>
	<title>Nobody said anything about retarded</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259610240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>A lot of you are suggesting that high function Autism is mental retardation. It ISN'T!.</p></div></blockquote><p>Start with a strawman and carry on from there</p><blockquote><div><p>My 5 yr old son...was tested for three hours and its been found that he has slight Autism...has trouble focusing...at age 2 he could tell you what every single car was in the parking...could read at age 3, he could write his name at age 4...if you break his routine, when he talks to you he will turn every conversation around to focus on what he is interested in. He has social skill problems when he deals with his peers who are of the same age...I personally think he has aspergers as he is very social and will will approach people and talk to them</p></div></blockquote><p> As a parent of more than two children I'm mystified as to why you even had him at the pediatrician.  The behaviour you describe sounds not at all untypical.  Five year old boys <i>do</i> have trouble remaining focussed on things in which they're less interested, no matter how intelligent they are, and they can often react strongly to changes in routine.  That's not autism, it's normal.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A lot of you are suggesting that high function Autism is mental retardation .
It IS N'T ! .Start with a strawman and carry on from thereMy 5 yr old son...was tested for three hours and its been found that he has slight Autism...has trouble focusing...at age 2 he could tell you what every single car was in the parking...could read at age 3 , he could write his name at age 4...if you break his routine , when he talks to you he will turn every conversation around to focus on what he is interested in .
He has social skill problems when he deals with his peers who are of the same age...I personally think he has aspergers as he is very social and will will approach people and talk to them As a parent of more than two children I 'm mystified as to why you even had him at the pediatrician .
The behaviour you describe sounds not at all untypical .
Five year old boys do have trouble remaining focussed on things in which they 're less interested , no matter how intelligent they are , and they can often react strongly to changes in routine .
That 's not autism , it 's normal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lot of you are suggesting that high function Autism is mental retardation.
It ISN'T!.Start with a strawman and carry on from thereMy 5 yr old son...was tested for three hours and its been found that he has slight Autism...has trouble focusing...at age 2 he could tell you what every single car was in the parking...could read at age 3, he could write his name at age 4...if you break his routine, when he talks to you he will turn every conversation around to focus on what he is interested in.
He has social skill problems when he deals with his peers who are of the same age...I personally think he has aspergers as he is very social and will will approach people and talk to them As a parent of more than two children I'm mystified as to why you even had him at the pediatrician.
The behaviour you describe sounds not at all untypical.
Five year old boys do have trouble remaining focussed on things in which they're less interested, no matter how intelligent they are, and they can often react strongly to changes in routine.
That's not autism, it's normal.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384840</id>
	<title>Re:People... Austism does not equal Retarded!</title>
	<author>demonlapin</author>
	<datestamp>1259600880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Judging by your grammar and spelling, your IQ is in the room temperature range. When you posit that your offspring is not retarded, it strongly enhances your case if you appear to be modestly intelligent.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Judging by your grammar and spelling , your IQ is in the room temperature range .
When you posit that your offspring is not retarded , it strongly enhances your case if you appear to be modestly intelligent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Judging by your grammar and spelling, your IQ is in the room temperature range.
When you posit that your offspring is not retarded, it strongly enhances your case if you appear to be modestly intelligent.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384348</id>
	<title>Re:Aspiritech? Specialisterne?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259595840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In this economy? In a heartbeat. I [heart] ourpeopleareshit.com</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In this economy ?
In a heartbeat .
I [ heart ] ourpeopleareshit.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In this economy?
In a heartbeat.
I [heart] ourpeopleareshit.com</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385530</id>
	<title>Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259611140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't really know that I believe that. I mean no offense to those techies who do have actual psychological problems that they battle each and every day with what I say here.  These problems do exist and can make life harder.</p><p>  In my experience, younger techies seem to have this idea that they are really quirky or have some mental problem.  It's almost a techie way of proving how cool you are.  Heck, I'll even admit acted a little foolish in my early IT days to the point where I believed that I was all quirky and crazy.</p><p>As I got older I realized that I just have some slightly different preference.  I don't sleep as much as most people I know, I like to stay up later and don't like to get up early, and I like to learn new things (not a very common trait in America these days, sadly).</p><p>A few Years ago I worked with two developers who were clearly OCD and had been diagnosed as such.  They were the truly quirky ones...the guys walking around their cars every morning to check five times if their windows were up and doors were locked, washing their hands until the skin was raw...doing other truly bizarre things all the time.  Seeing people who had actual psychological issues that they had to deal with daily made me think of some of my co workers who had declared themselves the "Craziest" or "Pretty OCD" or "Waaaay ADD" and I realized they rarely exhibited any symptoms and when they did so, it was when it seemed convienient to them...such as "It is really hard for me to get to work on time because of my OCD and ADD". </p><p>Perhaps the desire to be different or have people think you are stranger than you really are is a type of disease in itself but it seems more of a Prima Donna/Pay attention to me thing in many Techies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't really know that I believe that .
I mean no offense to those techies who do have actual psychological problems that they battle each and every day with what I say here .
These problems do exist and can make life harder .
In my experience , younger techies seem to have this idea that they are really quirky or have some mental problem .
It 's almost a techie way of proving how cool you are .
Heck , I 'll even admit acted a little foolish in my early IT days to the point where I believed that I was all quirky and crazy.As I got older I realized that I just have some slightly different preference .
I do n't sleep as much as most people I know , I like to stay up later and do n't like to get up early , and I like to learn new things ( not a very common trait in America these days , sadly ) .A few Years ago I worked with two developers who were clearly OCD and had been diagnosed as such .
They were the truly quirky ones...the guys walking around their cars every morning to check five times if their windows were up and doors were locked , washing their hands until the skin was raw...doing other truly bizarre things all the time .
Seeing people who had actual psychological issues that they had to deal with daily made me think of some of my co workers who had declared themselves the " Craziest " or " Pretty OCD " or " Waaaay ADD " and I realized they rarely exhibited any symptoms and when they did so , it was when it seemed convienient to them...such as " It is really hard for me to get to work on time because of my OCD and ADD " .
Perhaps the desire to be different or have people think you are stranger than you really are is a type of disease in itself but it seems more of a Prima Donna/Pay attention to me thing in many Techies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't really know that I believe that.
I mean no offense to those techies who do have actual psychological problems that they battle each and every day with what I say here.
These problems do exist and can make life harder.
In my experience, younger techies seem to have this idea that they are really quirky or have some mental problem.
It's almost a techie way of proving how cool you are.
Heck, I'll even admit acted a little foolish in my early IT days to the point where I believed that I was all quirky and crazy.As I got older I realized that I just have some slightly different preference.
I don't sleep as much as most people I know, I like to stay up later and don't like to get up early, and I like to learn new things (not a very common trait in America these days, sadly).A few Years ago I worked with two developers who were clearly OCD and had been diagnosed as such.
They were the truly quirky ones...the guys walking around their cars every morning to check five times if their windows were up and doors were locked, washing their hands until the skin was raw...doing other truly bizarre things all the time.
Seeing people who had actual psychological issues that they had to deal with daily made me think of some of my co workers who had declared themselves the "Craziest" or "Pretty OCD" or "Waaaay ADD" and I realized they rarely exhibited any symptoms and when they did so, it was when it seemed convienient to them...such as "It is really hard for me to get to work on time because of my OCD and ADD".
Perhaps the desire to be different or have people think you are stranger than you really are is a type of disease in itself but it seems more of a Prima Donna/Pay attention to me thing in many Techies.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Worked with one would love to have one as sidek</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1260470880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I prefer to think we're all alright, just different. Diversity is a survival factor; if everybody had the same aptitudes, we would have died out as a species long ago. If somebody is good at highly structured, repetitive tasks, then by all means, put them to work doing highly structured, repetitive tasks. Don't try to make them into something their not just to fit your preconceived notions of "normal".</htmltext>
<tokenext>I prefer to think we 're all alright , just different .
Diversity is a survival factor ; if everybody had the same aptitudes , we would have died out as a species long ago .
If somebody is good at highly structured , repetitive tasks , then by all means , put them to work doing highly structured , repetitive tasks .
Do n't try to make them into something their not just to fit your preconceived notions of " normal " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I prefer to think we're all alright, just different.
Diversity is a survival factor; if everybody had the same aptitudes, we would have died out as a species long ago.
If somebody is good at highly structured, repetitive tasks, then by all means, put them to work doing highly structured, repetitive tasks.
Don't try to make them into something their not just to fit your preconceived notions of "normal".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384956</id>
	<title>overlord</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259602440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I cant believe that I am the first one to say this...</p><p>I for one welcome our new autistic overlords!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I cant believe that I am the first one to say this...I for one welcome our new autistic overlords !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I cant believe that I am the first one to say this...I for one welcome our new autistic overlords!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384244</id>
	<title>Focus!</title>
	<author>Palpatine\_li</author>
	<datestamp>1259594760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I, for one, welcome our new Emergent podmaster!
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A\_Deepness\_in\_the\_Sky" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A\_Deepness\_in\_the\_Sky</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I , for one , welcome our new Emergent podmaster !
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A \ _Deepness \ _in \ _the \ _Sky [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I, for one, welcome our new Emergent podmaster!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A\_Deepness\_in\_the\_Sky [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383530</id>
	<title>I see it coming...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know many will say this is reprehensible, but I honestly think this is something respectable for individuals suffering from autism to do. Honestly, besides grocery store jobs, I have never seen other types of companies hiring these individuals. Of course there are others, but I haven't seen any.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know many will say this is reprehensible , but I honestly think this is something respectable for individuals suffering from autism to do .
Honestly , besides grocery store jobs , I have never seen other types of companies hiring these individuals .
Of course there are others , but I have n't seen any .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know many will say this is reprehensible, but I honestly think this is something respectable for individuals suffering from autism to do.
Honestly, besides grocery store jobs, I have never seen other types of companies hiring these individuals.
Of course there are others, but I haven't seen any.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384782</id>
	<title>Re:People... Austism does not equal Retarded!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259600280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you out of your fucking mind?????  Thats MY son your talking about....sounds to me that at the tender age of 5 he has far exceeded your intelligence you asswipe....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you out of your fucking mind ? ? ? ? ?
Thats MY son your talking about....sounds to me that at the tender age of 5 he has far exceeded your intelligence you asswipe... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you out of your fucking mind?????
Thats MY son your talking about....sounds to me that at the tender age of 5 he has far exceeded your intelligence you asswipe....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386184</id>
	<title>Re:People... Austism does not equal Retarded!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260442140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get him interested in the stock market and playing on something like <a href="http://virtualstockexchange.com/" title="virtualstockexchange.com" rel="nofollow">This</a> [virtualstockexchange.com] for a couple of years and see how he does.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get him interested in the stock market and playing on something like This [ virtualstockexchange.com ] for a couple of years and see how he does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get him interested in the stock market and playing on something like This [virtualstockexchange.com] for a couple of years and see how he does.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383738</id>
	<title>Re:Perfect!</title>
	<author>Seumas</author>
	<datestamp>1259590440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, but that's simply part of being American; nothing to do with Autism.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but that 's simply part of being American ; nothing to do with Autism .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but that's simply part of being American; nothing to do with Autism.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385234</id>
	<title>I thought what I'd do was,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259605920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383724</id>
	<title>Re:High Functioning Autism</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259590380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ever since that report came out a few years ago, it has been "trendy" to walk around proclaiming "I'm a geek and have some weird OCD traits, so I totally have aspergers!" I'm sure it is sometimes legitimate and meaningful, but for the most part I suspect it is the geek version of a guy going around telling people how edgy and brooding and complex he is. And when geeks aren't going around self-diagnosing themselves as that, I'm sure doctors are all too often eager to do it for them for the same odd reasons they go around telling everyone (or used to, at least) that they have ADD and ADHD simply because they can't sit in a chair and not twitch a muscle for fifteen hours straight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ever since that report came out a few years ago , it has been " trendy " to walk around proclaiming " I 'm a geek and have some weird OCD traits , so I totally have aspergers !
" I 'm sure it is sometimes legitimate and meaningful , but for the most part I suspect it is the geek version of a guy going around telling people how edgy and brooding and complex he is .
And when geeks are n't going around self-diagnosing themselves as that , I 'm sure doctors are all too often eager to do it for them for the same odd reasons they go around telling everyone ( or used to , at least ) that they have ADD and ADHD simply because they ca n't sit in a chair and not twitch a muscle for fifteen hours straight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ever since that report came out a few years ago, it has been "trendy" to walk around proclaiming "I'm a geek and have some weird OCD traits, so I totally have aspergers!
" I'm sure it is sometimes legitimate and meaningful, but for the most part I suspect it is the geek version of a guy going around telling people how edgy and brooding and complex he is.
And when geeks aren't going around self-diagnosing themselves as that, I'm sure doctors are all too often eager to do it for them for the same odd reasons they go around telling everyone (or used to, at least) that they have ADD and ADHD simply because they can't sit in a chair and not twitch a muscle for fifteen hours straight.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384610</id>
	<title>Re:Since 2004? That's nothing.</title>
	<author>psithurism</author>
	<datestamp>1259598240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually we do this for free, thanks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually we do this for free , thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually we do this for free, thanks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383578</id>
	<title>"predictable, monotonous work"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The writer must be a programmer because as a tester, I find the phrase "predictable, monotonous work" offending.  Sure, parts of testing can be predictable and monotonous, but a good tester goes outside the box and the majority of testing is not the predictable monotonous type.  If testing was predictable, then it wouldn't be needed.  If it was predictable that certain bugs would be found then a good Engineer would always fix it before it was found, making it not predictable anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The writer must be a programmer because as a tester , I find the phrase " predictable , monotonous work " offending .
Sure , parts of testing can be predictable and monotonous , but a good tester goes outside the box and the majority of testing is not the predictable monotonous type .
If testing was predictable , then it would n't be needed .
If it was predictable that certain bugs would be found then a good Engineer would always fix it before it was found , making it not predictable anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The writer must be a programmer because as a tester, I find the phrase "predictable, monotonous work" offending.
Sure, parts of testing can be predictable and monotonous, but a good tester goes outside the box and the majority of testing is not the predictable monotonous type.
If testing was predictable, then it wouldn't be needed.
If it was predictable that certain bugs would be found then a good Engineer would always fix it before it was found, making it not predictable anymore.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383748</id>
	<title>Re:Data Sourcing</title>
	<author>Hybrid-brain</author>
	<datestamp>1259590440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Like our great and glorious leader of Microsoft: Bill Gates</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like our great and glorious leader of Microsoft : Bill Gates</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like our great and glorious leader of Microsoft: Bill Gates</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30388164</id>
	<title>Re:consultants? nice way to get out of paying heal</title>
	<author>alexo</author>
	<datestamp>1260461220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>consultants? nice way to get out of paying for there health care and makeing them pay all the taxes on there own. How about helping and makeing them w2 workers?</p></div></blockquote><p>Please note that while the article and she summary are about the Chicago based Aspiritech, the "hourly consultants" quote refers to the Danish Specialisterne, so I am not sure how W-2 comes into the picture.</p><p>Specialisterne has valid reasons to go that route.  From TFA:</p><p>"<i>Potential employees go through months of screening and training before they are sent as hourly consultants to clients who must understand that the specialists will work only part-time, and they cannot work in a chaotic environment with more than a few other people in the room. In return, Specialisterne assumes much more responsibility for their employees than most companies, with learning experts and social workers on staff.</i>"</p><p>I assume that Aspiritech intends to follow a similar model, especially as they mention Specialisterne as "Proof of Concept" on their site.</p><p>I am not an American so I am not familiar with your intricacies of employee classification but this is what I found on the Web:</p><p><i> <a href="http://www.articlesbase.com/management-articles/classifying-your-employees-distinguishing-between-1099-and-w2-workers-625145.html" title="articlesbase.com">A 1099 employee has a contract with a very specific end date. The worker is free to set their own schedule, and is only responsible for completing the project by the date specified in their contract. On the other hand, a W2 employee has a set schedule of work hours managed by the employer and has no specified end-date of employment. Essentially, a 1099 employee is paid on a project basis, whereas a W2 employee is paid based on hours worked.</a> [articlesbase.com] </i></p><p>Not all companies allow telecommuting for full-time workers and having an employee in the office that cannot fit the workplace dynamics is usually bad for both said employee and for others.  Having a firm that would subcontract their services no a per-project basis while ensuring the best work environment for them and taking care of all the aspects of interpersonal interaction that may cause them (or their employer) discomfort seems like a good solution to me.</p><p>And by the way, it's "making" and "on their own".</p></div>
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<tokenext>consultants ?
nice way to get out of paying for there health care and makeing them pay all the taxes on there own .
How about helping and makeing them w2 workers ? Please note that while the article and she summary are about the Chicago based Aspiritech , the " hourly consultants " quote refers to the Danish Specialisterne , so I am not sure how W-2 comes into the picture.Specialisterne has valid reasons to go that route .
From TFA : " Potential employees go through months of screening and training before they are sent as hourly consultants to clients who must understand that the specialists will work only part-time , and they can not work in a chaotic environment with more than a few other people in the room .
In return , Specialisterne assumes much more responsibility for their employees than most companies , with learning experts and social workers on staff .
" I assume that Aspiritech intends to follow a similar model , especially as they mention Specialisterne as " Proof of Concept " on their site.I am not an American so I am not familiar with your intricacies of employee classification but this is what I found on the Web : A 1099 employee has a contract with a very specific end date .
The worker is free to set their own schedule , and is only responsible for completing the project by the date specified in their contract .
On the other hand , a W2 employee has a set schedule of work hours managed by the employer and has no specified end-date of employment .
Essentially , a 1099 employee is paid on a project basis , whereas a W2 employee is paid based on hours worked .
[ articlesbase.com ] Not all companies allow telecommuting for full-time workers and having an employee in the office that can not fit the workplace dynamics is usually bad for both said employee and for others .
Having a firm that would subcontract their services no a per-project basis while ensuring the best work environment for them and taking care of all the aspects of interpersonal interaction that may cause them ( or their employer ) discomfort seems like a good solution to me.And by the way , it 's " making " and " on their own " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>consultants?
nice way to get out of paying for there health care and makeing them pay all the taxes on there own.
How about helping and makeing them w2 workers?Please note that while the article and she summary are about the Chicago based Aspiritech, the "hourly consultants" quote refers to the Danish Specialisterne, so I am not sure how W-2 comes into the picture.Specialisterne has valid reasons to go that route.
From TFA:"Potential employees go through months of screening and training before they are sent as hourly consultants to clients who must understand that the specialists will work only part-time, and they cannot work in a chaotic environment with more than a few other people in the room.
In return, Specialisterne assumes much more responsibility for their employees than most companies, with learning experts and social workers on staff.
"I assume that Aspiritech intends to follow a similar model, especially as they mention Specialisterne as "Proof of Concept" on their site.I am not an American so I am not familiar with your intricacies of employee classification but this is what I found on the Web: A 1099 employee has a contract with a very specific end date.
The worker is free to set their own schedule, and is only responsible for completing the project by the date specified in their contract.
On the other hand, a W2 employee has a set schedule of work hours managed by the employer and has no specified end-date of employment.
Essentially, a 1099 employee is paid on a project basis, whereas a W2 employee is paid based on hours worked.
[articlesbase.com] Not all companies allow telecommuting for full-time workers and having an employee in the office that cannot fit the workplace dynamics is usually bad for both said employee and for others.
Having a firm that would subcontract their services no a per-project basis while ensuring the best work environment for them and taking care of all the aspects of interpersonal interaction that may cause them (or their employer) discomfort seems like a good solution to me.And by the way, it's "making" and "on their own".
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385482</id>
	<title>Re:People... Austism does not equal Retarded!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259610300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, but...</p><p>If your child can realize the the idiotic monotony of those "normal" people around himself, especially when he hits first grade he must be a problem.</p><p>Just like my twins... now in grade 4.</p><p>Social interaction is MORE important than listening to facts...<br>Social interaction is MORE important then remembering the rules of the game...<br>Social interaction is MORE important than the teacher dealing with the bully on the playground...</p><p>Social interaction couldn't possibly be learned later on:<br>After the bully dropped out of school, ( unemployed asshole )<br>After the stupid games are over.</p><p>You know:<br>When real life starts.</p><p>And God help you if you can remember what your teacher said THE FIRST TIME<br>and you have to sit through your teacher explaining the same thing twenty-nine times to the idiots who can barely remember their own names...</p><p>Good luck.<br>I have such fond memories of school<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)<br>and a very high regard for the current teachers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but...If your child can realize the the idiotic monotony of those " normal " people around himself , especially when he hits first grade he must be a problem.Just like my twins... now in grade 4.Social interaction is MORE important than listening to facts...Social interaction is MORE important then remembering the rules of the game...Social interaction is MORE important than the teacher dealing with the bully on the playground...Social interaction could n't possibly be learned later on : After the bully dropped out of school , ( unemployed asshole ) After the stupid games are over.You know : When real life starts.And God help you if you can remember what your teacher said THE FIRST TIMEand you have to sit through your teacher explaining the same thing twenty-nine times to the idiots who can barely remember their own names...Good luck.I have such fond memories of school ; ) and a very high regard for the current teachers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but...If your child can realize the the idiotic monotony of those "normal" people around himself, especially when he hits first grade he must be a problem.Just like my twins... now in grade 4.Social interaction is MORE important than listening to facts...Social interaction is MORE important then remembering the rules of the game...Social interaction is MORE important than the teacher dealing with the bully on the playground...Social interaction couldn't possibly be learned later on:After the bully dropped out of school, ( unemployed asshole )After the stupid games are over.You know:When real life starts.And God help you if you can remember what your teacher said THE FIRST TIMEand you have to sit through your teacher explaining the same thing twenty-nine times to the idiots who can barely remember their own names...Good luck.I have such fond memories of school ;)and a very high regard for the current teachers.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384644</id>
	<title>Re:People... Austism does not equal Retarded!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259598540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As one of the people who tested your son I can tell you with a degree of accuracy that he really knows how to take a cock in his ass despite the sensory overload. I scheduled him for an appointment tomorrow, don't worry he won't notice a thing.</p><p>Signed,<br>Dr Nigger</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As one of the people who tested your son I can tell you with a degree of accuracy that he really knows how to take a cock in his ass despite the sensory overload .
I scheduled him for an appointment tomorrow , do n't worry he wo n't notice a thing.Signed,Dr Nigger</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As one of the people who tested your son I can tell you with a degree of accuracy that he really knows how to take a cock in his ass despite the sensory overload.
I scheduled him for an appointment tomorrow, don't worry he won't notice a thing.Signed,Dr Nigger</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383584</id>
	<title>Data Sourcing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes ago we were doing a data warehousing project. This involved getting other departments to build extract feeds from their system so that we could pull all the data together. Some one had to chase down progress from all these third parties. It was no fun at at all. Spending hours hassling people who were tee'd off with you 'wasting' their time.
<p>
Dave had mild Aspergers. We got him to do the hassling as he couldn't sense the irritation of the people he was calling.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes ago we were doing a data warehousing project .
This involved getting other departments to build extract feeds from their system so that we could pull all the data together .
Some one had to chase down progress from all these third parties .
It was no fun at at all .
Spending hours hassling people who were tee 'd off with you 'wasting ' their time .
Dave had mild Aspergers .
We got him to do the hassling as he could n't sense the irritation of the people he was calling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes ago we were doing a data warehousing project.
This involved getting other departments to build extract feeds from their system so that we could pull all the data together.
Some one had to chase down progress from all these third parties.
It was no fun at at all.
Spending hours hassling people who were tee'd off with you 'wasting' their time.
Dave had mild Aspergers.
We got him to do the hassling as he couldn't sense the irritation of the people he was calling.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385252</id>
	<title>Re:Dupe</title>
	<author>glarbl\_blarbl</author>
	<datestamp>1259606160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I like having AS.  It has been, on balance, a blessing.  That being said, I find psychotherapy to be quite beneficial in dealing with the anxiety and depression which is often seen in people on the Autistic Spectrum.  Not only does it help with those issues, my therapist is Neurotypical (or NT, which is what people with ASD tend to call "normal" people) so she can help me understand where most people are coming from and slowly teach me to read certain non-verbal cues.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I like having AS .
It has been , on balance , a blessing .
That being said , I find psychotherapy to be quite beneficial in dealing with the anxiety and depression which is often seen in people on the Autistic Spectrum .
Not only does it help with those issues , my therapist is Neurotypical ( or NT , which is what people with ASD tend to call " normal " people ) so she can help me understand where most people are coming from and slowly teach me to read certain non-verbal cues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like having AS.
It has been, on balance, a blessing.
That being said, I find psychotherapy to be quite beneficial in dealing with the anxiety and depression which is often seen in people on the Autistic Spectrum.
Not only does it help with those issues, my therapist is Neurotypical (or NT, which is what people with ASD tend to call "normal" people) so she can help me understand where most people are coming from and slowly teach me to read certain non-verbal cues.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384124</id>
	<title>M O O N</title>
	<author>scourfish</author>
	<datestamp>1259593740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That spells segmentation fault</htmltext>
<tokenext>That spells segmentation fault</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That spells segmentation fault</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384744</id>
	<title>Re:I see it coming...</title>
	<author>demonlapin</author>
	<datestamp>1259599800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a spectrum, it makes sense, and the fact that a bunch of whiners cling to it to be their excuse for not getting ahead in life doesn't mean it's not real.<br> <br>You can call me a successful introvert (who nonetheless has friends, a social life, and can carry on small talk for brief periods) or you can call me a high-functioning autist; it doesn't change a thing about me. The problem is that a bunch of kids with what used to be called "mental retardation" managed to get diagnosed as "autistic" because the latter had better benefits than the former.  Quelle surprise.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a spectrum , it makes sense , and the fact that a bunch of whiners cling to it to be their excuse for not getting ahead in life does n't mean it 's not real .
You can call me a successful introvert ( who nonetheless has friends , a social life , and can carry on small talk for brief periods ) or you can call me a high-functioning autist ; it does n't change a thing about me .
The problem is that a bunch of kids with what used to be called " mental retardation " managed to get diagnosed as " autistic " because the latter had better benefits than the former .
Quelle surprise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a spectrum, it makes sense, and the fact that a bunch of whiners cling to it to be their excuse for not getting ahead in life doesn't mean it's not real.
You can call me a successful introvert (who nonetheless has friends, a social life, and can carry on small talk for brief periods) or you can call me a high-functioning autist; it doesn't change a thing about me.
The problem is that a bunch of kids with what used to be called "mental retardation" managed to get diagnosed as "autistic" because the latter had better benefits than the former.
Quelle surprise.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384110</id>
	<title>in other news</title>
	<author>mestar</author>
	<datestamp>1259593500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Company Trains the Autistic To Test Software</p><p>But if somebody has written some software to train autistic people, it would be:</p><p>"Company Tests Software to Train the Autistic"</p><p>What if a weird consultant is to do some work for some developer tools company:</p><p>"The Autistic to Train a Test Software Company"</p><p>What if some ill behaved company is about to release its Railroad tycoon clone:</p><p>"The Autistic Company to Test Software Trains"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Company Trains the Autistic To Test SoftwareBut if somebody has written some software to train autistic people , it would be : " Company Tests Software to Train the Autistic " What if a weird consultant is to do some work for some developer tools company : " The Autistic to Train a Test Software Company " What if some ill behaved company is about to release its Railroad tycoon clone : " The Autistic Company to Test Software Trains "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Company Trains the Autistic To Test SoftwareBut if somebody has written some software to train autistic people, it would be:"Company Tests Software to Train the Autistic"What if a weird consultant is to do some work for some developer tools company:"The Autistic to Train a Test Software Company"What if some ill behaved company is about to release its Railroad tycoon clone:"The Autistic Company to Test Software Trains"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384664</id>
	<title>Tyler Cowen's Create Your Own Economy</title>
	<author>Shane dot H</author>
	<datestamp>1259598840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone who's interested in this kind of discussion on putting autistic's skills to positive use (for both themselves and society at large) should read Tyler Cowen's Create Your Own Economy. The title really doesn't let on that it's a book about improving your own ability to process information by fostering the skills that autistics tend to have more than their non-autistic counterparts. His introductory chapters clearly explain that autism is not a handicap and that the information economy can provide a place where such personality types and their cognitive skills can thrive. <br> <br>
Our society has a lot of room for people with unique skills, and these middlemen who can bring autistics gainful employment while serving the greater economy should be applauded for their work.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone who 's interested in this kind of discussion on putting autistic 's skills to positive use ( for both themselves and society at large ) should read Tyler Cowen 's Create Your Own Economy .
The title really does n't let on that it 's a book about improving your own ability to process information by fostering the skills that autistics tend to have more than their non-autistic counterparts .
His introductory chapters clearly explain that autism is not a handicap and that the information economy can provide a place where such personality types and their cognitive skills can thrive .
Our society has a lot of room for people with unique skills , and these middlemen who can bring autistics gainful employment while serving the greater economy should be applauded for their work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone who's interested in this kind of discussion on putting autistic's skills to positive use (for both themselves and society at large) should read Tyler Cowen's Create Your Own Economy.
The title really doesn't let on that it's a book about improving your own ability to process information by fostering the skills that autistics tend to have more than their non-autistic counterparts.
His introductory chapters clearly explain that autism is not a handicap and that the information economy can provide a place where such personality types and their cognitive skills can thrive.
Our society has a lot of room for people with unique skills, and these middlemen who can bring autistics gainful employment while serving the greater economy should be applauded for their work.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385198</id>
	<title>Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work</title>
	<author>Robert Larson</author>
	<datestamp>1259605380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What neurotypical folks may fail to realize is that Autism is a spectrum disorder. From what I've observed, most everyone who works in IT, at least in any technical capacity, resides on the Autism spectrum somewhere. From LFA to HFA to Aspergers to PDD-NOS to OCD to "quirky" to "nerdy"... etc. Pretty much you can substitute "geek" for "autistic" and be on safe ground. Bill Gates is autistic (clearly). Steve Jobs probably too but to a much less noticeable degree.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What neurotypical folks may fail to realize is that Autism is a spectrum disorder .
From what I 've observed , most everyone who works in IT , at least in any technical capacity , resides on the Autism spectrum somewhere .
From LFA to HFA to Aspergers to PDD-NOS to OCD to " quirky " to " nerdy " ... etc. Pretty much you can substitute " geek " for " autistic " and be on safe ground .
Bill Gates is autistic ( clearly ) .
Steve Jobs probably too but to a much less noticeable degree .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What neurotypical folks may fail to realize is that Autism is a spectrum disorder.
From what I've observed, most everyone who works in IT, at least in any technical capacity, resides on the Autism spectrum somewhere.
From LFA to HFA to Aspergers to PDD-NOS to OCD to "quirky" to "nerdy"... etc. Pretty much you can substitute "geek" for "autistic" and be on safe ground.
Bill Gates is autistic (clearly).
Steve Jobs probably too but to a much less noticeable degree.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384464</id>
	<title>Ghost in the Shell</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259596800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wasn't there some farm of autistic kids or something in some of the episodes ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Was n't there some farm of autistic kids or something in some of the episodes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wasn't there some farm of autistic kids or something in some of the episodes ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383946</id>
	<title>Re:High Functioning Autism</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, high functioning autism people CAN be successful in the business world, but it is more of a exception rather than a rule. Not being able to communicate well or understand abstract ideas is a real problem in the business world.

It does impair them from doing complex work. Everything for an autism person MUST be concrete. I can see why this would lead to success in programming, but they would fail at many other professions.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , high functioning autism people CAN be successful in the business world , but it is more of a exception rather than a rule .
Not being able to communicate well or understand abstract ideas is a real problem in the business world .
It does impair them from doing complex work .
Everything for an autism person MUST be concrete .
I can see why this would lead to success in programming , but they would fail at many other professions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, high functioning autism people CAN be successful in the business world, but it is more of a exception rather than a rule.
Not being able to communicate well or understand abstract ideas is a real problem in the business world.
It does impair them from doing complex work.
Everything for an autism person MUST be concrete.
I can see why this would lead to success in programming, but they would fail at many other professions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384488</id>
	<title>So true</title>
	<author>LockeOnLogic</author>
	<datestamp>1259597100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Self-diagnosis is so prevalent these days it's ridiculous. Most people with issues that affect their ability to function to do not talk about them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Self-diagnosis is so prevalent these days it 's ridiculous .
Most people with issues that affect their ability to function to do not talk about them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Self-diagnosis is so prevalent these days it's ridiculous.
Most people with issues that affect their ability to function to do not talk about them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383614</id>
	<title>Well they say it never rains but it  pours</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There goes the blackjack and the hookers for Rainman then.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There goes the blackjack and the hookers for Rainman then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There goes the blackjack and the hookers for Rainman then.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386232</id>
	<title>I have a higher functioning autistic child</title>
	<author>wolffenrir</author>
	<datestamp>1260442980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>and he can run circles around most other children his age. He began learning mathematics by age two. By age five, he knows more about the solar system then many adults. He even understand, in principle, the behavior of celestial mechanics (though he doesn't understand why, he is still only five).

The reason I say this is because most autistics don't need special jobs nobody else will fill. Most of them are better than average people. They fall behind because the educational system failed them. They were not given therapy and support at a very early age. People really have no idea my son is autistic at this time. He has learned skills to adapt. But he still has his autistic strengths.

Data entry and software testing are for muggles. Autistics are meant to be software engineers, software architects, scientists, mathematicians. This company is capitalizing on the failure of society to properly develop its autistic children.</htmltext>
<tokenext>and he can run circles around most other children his age .
He began learning mathematics by age two .
By age five , he knows more about the solar system then many adults .
He even understand , in principle , the behavior of celestial mechanics ( though he does n't understand why , he is still only five ) .
The reason I say this is because most autistics do n't need special jobs nobody else will fill .
Most of them are better than average people .
They fall behind because the educational system failed them .
They were not given therapy and support at a very early age .
People really have no idea my son is autistic at this time .
He has learned skills to adapt .
But he still has his autistic strengths .
Data entry and software testing are for muggles .
Autistics are meant to be software engineers , software architects , scientists , mathematicians .
This company is capitalizing on the failure of society to properly develop its autistic children .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and he can run circles around most other children his age.
He began learning mathematics by age two.
By age five, he knows more about the solar system then many adults.
He even understand, in principle, the behavior of celestial mechanics (though he doesn't understand why, he is still only five).
The reason I say this is because most autistics don't need special jobs nobody else will fill.
Most of them are better than average people.
They fall behind because the educational system failed them.
They were not given therapy and support at a very early age.
People really have no idea my son is autistic at this time.
He has learned skills to adapt.
But he still has his autistic strengths.
Data entry and software testing are for muggles.
Autistics are meant to be software engineers, software architects, scientists, mathematicians.
This company is capitalizing on the failure of society to properly develop its autistic children.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30387002</id>
	<title>Re:Worked with one would love to have one as sidek</title>
	<author>dkleinsc</author>
	<datestamp>1260453180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, at the very least, it's pretty clear that they didn't come out wrong, but with a very useful skill set. I have similar sentiments about ADHD: if you're in a group of cavemen going out hunting, you want someone in your group who will notice all the little things that folks who don't have ADHD ignore because that's not what they're focusing on. So if I have a task that involves looking around for anything unusual or interesting, I want someone with ADHD along, because he or she will find things I'll miss.</p><p>In fact, any "disorder" that is as common as high functioning autism or ADHD often indicates that it's not a disorder at all, but more a personality type that the rest of us have decided was annoying to deal with. For instance, autistic people are the most likely to announce that the emperor is walking around naked, which is extremely inconvenient for anyone who is selling clothing that everyone claims they can see but no one can.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , at the very least , it 's pretty clear that they did n't come out wrong , but with a very useful skill set .
I have similar sentiments about ADHD : if you 're in a group of cavemen going out hunting , you want someone in your group who will notice all the little things that folks who do n't have ADHD ignore because that 's not what they 're focusing on .
So if I have a task that involves looking around for anything unusual or interesting , I want someone with ADHD along , because he or she will find things I 'll miss.In fact , any " disorder " that is as common as high functioning autism or ADHD often indicates that it 's not a disorder at all , but more a personality type that the rest of us have decided was annoying to deal with .
For instance , autistic people are the most likely to announce that the emperor is walking around naked , which is extremely inconvenient for anyone who is selling clothing that everyone claims they can see but no one can .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, at the very least, it's pretty clear that they didn't come out wrong, but with a very useful skill set.
I have similar sentiments about ADHD: if you're in a group of cavemen going out hunting, you want someone in your group who will notice all the little things that folks who don't have ADHD ignore because that's not what they're focusing on.
So if I have a task that involves looking around for anything unusual or interesting, I want someone with ADHD along, because he or she will find things I'll miss.In fact, any "disorder" that is as common as high functioning autism or ADHD often indicates that it's not a disorder at all, but more a personality type that the rest of us have decided was annoying to deal with.
For instance, autistic people are the most likely to announce that the emperor is walking around naked, which is extremely inconvenient for anyone who is selling clothing that everyone claims they can see but no one can.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386912</id>
	<title>Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work</title>
	<author>gmack</author>
	<datestamp>1260452220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not just techies.  I think people in general want to name anything other than "normal" as a disorder. I've had people constantly try to find a mental illness for me because I'm not good with things they assume that I should be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not just techies .
I think people in general want to name anything other than " normal " as a disorder .
I 've had people constantly try to find a mental illness for me because I 'm not good with things they assume that I should be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not just techies.
I think people in general want to name anything other than "normal" as a disorder.
I've had people constantly try to find a mental illness for me because I'm not good with things they assume that I should be.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30388136</id>
	<title>Re:I see it coming...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260461100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I find every idiot geek out there (many of them, sadly to say, on Slashdot)</p></div></blockquote><p>Hey!</p><p>I resemble that comment.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I find every idiot geek out there ( many of them , sadly to say , on Slashdot ) Hey ! I resemble that comment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find every idiot geek out there (many of them, sadly to say, on Slashdot)Hey!I resemble that comment.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385372</id>
	<title>Re:I'd love this job!</title>
	<author>glarbl\_blarbl</author>
	<datestamp>1259608320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Same here.  Only thing is I don't want to move to Chicago!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Same here .
Only thing is I do n't want to move to Chicago !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same here.
Only thing is I don't want to move to Chicago!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384204</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386266</id>
	<title>Re:People... Austism does not equal Retarded!</title>
	<author>VoidCrow</author>
	<datestamp>1260443280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Retardation is a relative measure. To many of my friends, the average person seems retarded, ability to read emotional states notwithstanding. Sure, the inability to read emotional states can be considered an impairment, but so can the lack of vision required to solder an inadequately flushed petrol tank (my dad - boom). Why not consider the possibility that autistic traits are in a class of developing specialisations, in the same mould as those exhibited by social insects such as *ants*?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Retardation is a relative measure .
To many of my friends , the average person seems retarded , ability to read emotional states notwithstanding .
Sure , the inability to read emotional states can be considered an impairment , but so can the lack of vision required to solder an inadequately flushed petrol tank ( my dad - boom ) .
Why not consider the possibility that autistic traits are in a class of developing specialisations , in the same mould as those exhibited by social insects such as * ants * ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Retardation is a relative measure.
To many of my friends, the average person seems retarded, ability to read emotional states notwithstanding.
Sure, the inability to read emotional states can be considered an impairment, but so can the lack of vision required to solder an inadequately flushed petrol tank (my dad - boom).
Why not consider the possibility that autistic traits are in a class of developing specialisations, in the same mould as those exhibited by social insects such as *ants*?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383690</id>
	<title>Re:Dupe</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259590080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>(And of course, they'd probably make great software programmers.)</p></div><p>Poor non-verbal skills....check<br>Poor eye contact....check<br>Lack of empathy....check<br>Problems starting conversations....check<br>Wants routines....check</p><p>Sure sounds like every engineer I know.  Mild autism, asbergers, ADD *or whatever the latest diagnosis is); unless is is severe half the symptoms apply to large groups of people.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( And of course , they 'd probably make great software programmers .
) Poor non-verbal skills....checkPoor eye contact....checkLack of empathy....checkProblems starting conversations....checkWants routines....checkSure sounds like every engineer I know .
Mild autism , asbergers , ADD * or whatever the latest diagnosis is ) ; unless is is severe half the symptoms apply to large groups of people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(And of course, they'd probably make great software programmers.
)Poor non-verbal skills....checkPoor eye contact....checkLack of empathy....checkProblems starting conversations....checkWants routines....checkSure sounds like every engineer I know.
Mild autism, asbergers, ADD *or whatever the latest diagnosis is); unless is is severe half the symptoms apply to large groups of people.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384448</id>
	<title>Re:Suggested reading: The Speed of Dark</title>
	<author>ahabswhale</author>
	<datestamp>1259596680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Along the same lines, I highly recommend "The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time" by Mark Haddon.  It's fiction but educational.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Along the same lines , I highly recommend " The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time " by Mark Haddon .
It 's fiction but educational .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Along the same lines, I highly recommend "The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time" by Mark Haddon.
It's fiction but educational.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386458</id>
	<title>Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260445860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mark my words, their will be a steady increase in the numbers affected by this 'disability' in the future decades. How better to control a population than by engineer them to actually enjoy their captivity. I see this as an abuse however, "tester in a box for $5 an hour", sit them down and flick the switch. How about trying to understand how to integrate people with differing skills into normal society...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mark my words , their will be a steady increase in the numbers affected by this 'disability ' in the future decades .
How better to control a population than by engineer them to actually enjoy their captivity .
I see this as an abuse however , " tester in a box for $ 5 an hour " , sit them down and flick the switch .
How about trying to understand how to integrate people with differing skills into normal society.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mark my words, their will be a steady increase in the numbers affected by this 'disability' in the future decades.
How better to control a population than by engineer them to actually enjoy their captivity.
I see this as an abuse however, "tester in a box for $5 an hour", sit them down and flick the switch.
How about trying to understand how to integrate people with differing skills into normal society...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384344</id>
	<title>And then...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259595780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If this is successful, what happens when they run out of autistic people?<br>Will there be an incentive to create them? More mercury and formaldehyde in my baby's vaccines please!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If this is successful , what happens when they run out of autistic people ? Will there be an incentive to create them ?
More mercury and formaldehyde in my baby 's vaccines please !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If this is successful, what happens when they run out of autistic people?Will there be an incentive to create them?
More mercury and formaldehyde in my baby's vaccines please!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383988</id>
	<title>Re:Dupe</title>
	<author>Arthur Grumbine</author>
	<datestamp>1259592360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That said, there's been a troubling increase of babies born on the spectrum in recent years</p></div><p>All I see is a troubling increase in the number of diagnoses, combined with a troubling increase in the belief that these symptoms require medical/psychiatric attention to normalize any differences. I don't know about you, but I loathe the idea of a society of homogeneous personalities as much as I loathe the idea of an ice cream shop with homogenized flavors. Variety <i>is</i> the spice of life.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That said , there 's been a troubling increase of babies born on the spectrum in recent yearsAll I see is a troubling increase in the number of diagnoses , combined with a troubling increase in the belief that these symptoms require medical/psychiatric attention to normalize any differences .
I do n't know about you , but I loathe the idea of a society of homogeneous personalities as much as I loathe the idea of an ice cream shop with homogenized flavors .
Variety is the spice of life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That said, there's been a troubling increase of babies born on the spectrum in recent yearsAll I see is a troubling increase in the number of diagnoses, combined with a troubling increase in the belief that these symptoms require medical/psychiatric attention to normalize any differences.
I don't know about you, but I loathe the idea of a society of homogeneous personalities as much as I loathe the idea of an ice cream shop with homogenized flavors.
Variety is the spice of life.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385166</id>
	<title>Re:High Functioning Autism</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259604840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tested positive for Asperger's in a test on the web. And, I tested positive for ADD in another web test. So, I think I should be exceptionally able to concentrate on being unable to focus on the question of whether that means anything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tested positive for Asperger 's in a test on the web .
And , I tested positive for ADD in another web test .
So , I think I should be exceptionally able to concentrate on being unable to focus on the question of whether that means anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tested positive for Asperger's in a test on the web.
And, I tested positive for ADD in another web test.
So, I think I should be exceptionally able to concentrate on being unable to focus on the question of whether that means anything.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30546302</id>
	<title>Educate Yourself</title>
	<author>kanakafitz</author>
	<datestamp>1261686600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Consider learning more about ASD at: <a href="http://www.parentingkidswithaspergers.com/" title="parentingk...ergers.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.parentingkidswithaspergers.com/</a> [parentingk...ergers.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Consider learning more about ASD at : http : //www.parentingkidswithaspergers.com/ [ parentingk...ergers.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Consider learning more about ASD at: http://www.parentingkidswithaspergers.com/ [parentingk...ergers.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384264</id>
	<title>Re:I see it coming...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259594940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>high-functioning autistic people</p></div><p>Those are not quite the same as autistic people and depending on individual you may not know that they are autistic at all unless you get to know them personally.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>high-functioning autistic peopleThose are not quite the same as autistic people and depending on individual you may not know that they are autistic at all unless you get to know them personally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>high-functioning autistic peopleThose are not quite the same as autistic people and depending on individual you may not know that they are autistic at all unless you get to know them personally.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385066</id>
	<title>future's so bright, I'm blinded</title>
	<author>Voline</author>
	<datestamp>1259603700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Please decant 2 dozen betas for us. We'll need them to assemble the centrifugal bumblepuppies.

Capitalism+Genetic Engineering = GMO Slaves</htmltext>
<tokenext>Please decant 2 dozen betas for us .
We 'll need them to assemble the centrifugal bumblepuppies .
Capitalism + Genetic Engineering = GMO Slaves</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please decant 2 dozen betas for us.
We'll need them to assemble the centrifugal bumblepuppies.
Capitalism+Genetic Engineering = GMO Slaves</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383970</id>
	<title>Specialisterren in Holland</title>
	<author>nywles</author>
	<datestamp>1259592360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>In Holland <a href="http://www.specialisterren.nl/" title="specialisterren.nl" rel="nofollow">Specialisterren</a> [specialisterren.nl] (hmm, sounds familiar) does the same.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In Holland Specialisterren [ specialisterren.nl ] ( hmm , sounds familiar ) does the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Holland Specialisterren [specialisterren.nl] (hmm, sounds familiar) does the same.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384734</id>
	<title>Re:High Functioning Autism</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259599740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Everything for an autism person MUST be concrete. I can see why this would lead to success in programming, but they would fail at many other professions.</p></div><p>... and I could see why this would fail...? Programming is some of the most abstract work out there. If it isn't abstract, then what is?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everything for an autism person MUST be concrete .
I can see why this would lead to success in programming , but they would fail at many other professions.... and I could see why this would fail... ?
Programming is some of the most abstract work out there .
If it is n't abstract , then what is ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everything for an autism person MUST be concrete.
I can see why this would lead to success in programming, but they would fail at many other professions.... and I could see why this would fail...?
Programming is some of the most abstract work out there.
If it isn't abstract, then what is?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30385756</id>
	<title>Re:consultants? nice way to get out of paying heal</title>
	<author>Bl4d3</author>
	<datestamp>1260435840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Get your facts right before you comment.
<br> <br>
First of in Denmark health care is free, we all pay through our taxes, so no one is being cheated of anything.
<br>
Secondly if you bothered to RTFA or even the summary you would know that these people are hired OUT as consultants. And as for helping them:
<br> <br>
"In return, Specialisterne assumes much more responsibility for their employees than most companies, with learning experts and social workers on staff."
<br> <br>
ps. I think you're confusing there with their.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Get your facts right before you comment .
First of in Denmark health care is free , we all pay through our taxes , so no one is being cheated of anything .
Secondly if you bothered to RTFA or even the summary you would know that these people are hired OUT as consultants .
And as for helping them : " In return , Specialisterne assumes much more responsibility for their employees than most companies , with learning experts and social workers on staff .
" ps .
I think you 're confusing there with their .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get your facts right before you comment.
First of in Denmark health care is free, we all pay through our taxes, so no one is being cheated of anything.
Secondly if you bothered to RTFA or even the summary you would know that these people are hired OUT as consultants.
And as for helping them:
 
"In return, Specialisterne assumes much more responsibility for their employees than most companies, with learning experts and social workers on staff.
"
 
ps.
I think you're confusing there with their.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383570</id>
	<title>High Functioning Autism</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>High Functioning Autism isn't really a condition that impairs people from doing more complex work. It's really similar to Aspergers Syndrome, and people with these two conditions are the kinds of people who would can get good educations and be great programmers.</p><p>(I hear Silicon Valley has a higher prevalence of Aspies, likely because the kinds of jobs found there are a good fit for Aspies and tend to attract them to the region.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>High Functioning Autism is n't really a condition that impairs people from doing more complex work .
It 's really similar to Aspergers Syndrome , and people with these two conditions are the kinds of people who would can get good educations and be great programmers .
( I hear Silicon Valley has a higher prevalence of Aspies , likely because the kinds of jobs found there are a good fit for Aspies and tend to attract them to the region .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>High Functioning Autism isn't really a condition that impairs people from doing more complex work.
It's really similar to Aspergers Syndrome, and people with these two conditions are the kinds of people who would can get good educations and be great programmers.
(I hear Silicon Valley has a higher prevalence of Aspies, likely because the kinds of jobs found there are a good fit for Aspies and tend to attract them to the region.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384586</id>
	<title>Re:I see it coming...</title>
	<author>thomkt</author>
	<datestamp>1259598000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seumas you have no idea how much I agree with you on this one.</p><p>Last time a similar story was posted (couldn't find the link), somebody brought up that autism/aspergers as being the new "chic" diagnosis....it has everything a parents wants, an excuse to justify their child's behavioral issues as a manifestation of a disability which allows them to absolve themselves of any parenting failures with a label that's associated with high intelligence.</p><p>To the GP, as the parent of a severely autistic child this isn't at all reprehensible, providing autistic individuals with any kind of vocational/technical training is doing them, and their family/caregiver, a huge service. We just hope that Rachel will have an opportunity like this some day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seumas you have no idea how much I agree with you on this one.Last time a similar story was posted ( could n't find the link ) , somebody brought up that autism/aspergers as being the new " chic " diagnosis....it has everything a parents wants , an excuse to justify their child 's behavioral issues as a manifestation of a disability which allows them to absolve themselves of any parenting failures with a label that 's associated with high intelligence.To the GP , as the parent of a severely autistic child this is n't at all reprehensible , providing autistic individuals with any kind of vocational/technical training is doing them , and their family/caregiver , a huge service .
We just hope that Rachel will have an opportunity like this some day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seumas you have no idea how much I agree with you on this one.Last time a similar story was posted (couldn't find the link), somebody brought up that autism/aspergers as being the new "chic" diagnosis....it has everything a parents wants, an excuse to justify their child's behavioral issues as a manifestation of a disability which allows them to absolve themselves of any parenting failures with a label that's associated with high intelligence.To the GP, as the parent of a severely autistic child this isn't at all reprehensible, providing autistic individuals with any kind of vocational/technical training is doing them, and their family/caregiver, a huge service.
We just hope that Rachel will have an opportunity like this some day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30407552</id>
	<title>Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260529200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... its referred to as narcissism</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... its referred to as narcissism</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... its referred to as narcissism</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30390812</id>
	<title>Re:I have a higher functioning autistic child</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1260470400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How do you know he is autistic? He sounds merely gifted.</p><p>Autistic individuals may be gifted in some areas, but are severely impaired in other areas (socially). If nobody notices, he probably isn&rsquo;t autistic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How do you know he is autistic ?
He sounds merely gifted.Autistic individuals may be gifted in some areas , but are severely impaired in other areas ( socially ) .
If nobody notices , he probably isn    t autistic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do you know he is autistic?
He sounds merely gifted.Autistic individuals may be gifted in some areas, but are severely impaired in other areas (socially).
If nobody notices, he probably isn’t autistic.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383776</id>
	<title>Re:High Functioning Autism</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259590680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it starts earlier than that.  The prevalence of aspergers at MIT and CalTech is an order of magnitude above the population level and those two institutions contribute significantly to the silicon valley workforce.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it starts earlier than that .
The prevalence of aspergers at MIT and CalTech is an order of magnitude above the population level and those two institutions contribute significantly to the silicon valley workforce .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it starts earlier than that.
The prevalence of aspergers at MIT and CalTech is an order of magnitude above the population level and those two institutions contribute significantly to the silicon valley workforce.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384910</id>
	<title>Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259601840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I work at Microsoft testing software I wear paper hats.  Would you like a bug with thaaaat.  Would you like a bug with thaaaat.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I work at Microsoft testing software I wear paper hats .
Would you like a bug with thaaaat .
Would you like a bug with thaaaat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work at Microsoft testing software I wear paper hats.
Would you like a bug with thaaaat.
Would you like a bug with thaaaat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386856</id>
	<title>Re: autism and labeling</title>
	<author>maartendeprez</author>
	<datestamp>1260451500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree, autism is not retardation. Everyone has a slightly different way of thinking and being, whether because of genetic or experiential variability. Some of us do not get on well with their social environment, because they differ too much, or on the wrong points, from the cultural norms. But the "problem" is in the incompatibility, not in one side or the other. When it's one against many, however, the minority (or the ones with least legitimacy) will become regarded as "abnormal", as people who have a certain syndrome, though we might just as well say everyone else has a "syndrome".</p><p>It even doesn't have to be a minority. The situation may be much more complex than a black and white division. If only enough people keep on carrying an ideal that never totally fits anyone, and if they keep on hiding their own "imperfection" because they are afraid to be "deviant", the ones who do show the despised traits -  because they are too different, maybe, to be able to keep up the appearances, or because they feel imprisoned by what society imposes on them and, consciously or unconsciously, chose to do away with it - will still end up to be considered less fit, less worthy. Even these persons, for whom the ideal turns out to be a very negative thing, often keep on supporting it, by thinking they are "different" and "unable to attain" it.</p><p>And there the labeling comes into play. A person may be relieved to find out he's "autistic". It may help him to get recognition, support and understanding from people around him, and his family and friends may be relieved and better able to give him a place. But it can also promote a negative self-image, rigidly structure other people's reactions - as if the person they deal with is only an instance of the "autist" type and noting else - and thereby impose yet another regime of norms and expectations on the "deviant" person. As long as the person concerned is happy with that - not problem. But we have to keep in mind the label is very much a self-fulfilling prophecy. At he same time as it is a road to a more or less culturally accepted way of being, it is a powerful device for society to keep the labeled person in check, even if never consciously designed for that purpose.</p><p>As such, the label is a cultural construct, not a reflection of unquestionable, empirical reality. The only way to escape the restrictive simplifications imposed by the label, is to realize it's existence and to transcend it, to face what it hides, what lies underneath, in all it's complexity. Even though a full understanding is not withing human reach, we can try and use more sophisticated, colorful, and - precisely because such an understanding is unattainable - fluid and open conceptions.</p><p>As for autism, while i'm aware that it is reified by scientific research, by standardized diagnosis, descriptions, therapies, statistics, organizations and popular conceptions, i'd argue that it's still a model, that there is no such thing as the ultimate autist, but only people, *human beings*, to whom this model, even if not fully applicable, is applied - and *ascribed*. As i said, and as everyone who knows an "autist" will probably agree with, people labeled autists are <b>persons</b> and should be dealt with as persons, not as a personage from a psychology manual, popular book or expert's description. Manuals will <b>never</b> fully describe what a person is like. They <i>may</i> be helpful, but only if we remain open to different realities, if we are willing to see the person we are dealing with not as an example of a certain category, but as a human being just as much, and on the same level, as ourself. I think the world would be a better place if we tried to do so, if we tried to be understanding to each other, regardless of alleged "syndromes", and to find ways - not in general, codified on a high level, but <i>on the ground</i>, in practical situations - so that everyone can feel okay with his or her place in society. It's idealized, i know, but we can try our best...</p><p>What this means for the main s</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree , autism is not retardation .
Everyone has a slightly different way of thinking and being , whether because of genetic or experiential variability .
Some of us do not get on well with their social environment , because they differ too much , or on the wrong points , from the cultural norms .
But the " problem " is in the incompatibility , not in one side or the other .
When it 's one against many , however , the minority ( or the ones with least legitimacy ) will become regarded as " abnormal " , as people who have a certain syndrome , though we might just as well say everyone else has a " syndrome " .It even does n't have to be a minority .
The situation may be much more complex than a black and white division .
If only enough people keep on carrying an ideal that never totally fits anyone , and if they keep on hiding their own " imperfection " because they are afraid to be " deviant " , the ones who do show the despised traits - because they are too different , maybe , to be able to keep up the appearances , or because they feel imprisoned by what society imposes on them and , consciously or unconsciously , chose to do away with it - will still end up to be considered less fit , less worthy .
Even these persons , for whom the ideal turns out to be a very negative thing , often keep on supporting it , by thinking they are " different " and " unable to attain " it.And there the labeling comes into play .
A person may be relieved to find out he 's " autistic " .
It may help him to get recognition , support and understanding from people around him , and his family and friends may be relieved and better able to give him a place .
But it can also promote a negative self-image , rigidly structure other people 's reactions - as if the person they deal with is only an instance of the " autist " type and noting else - and thereby impose yet another regime of norms and expectations on the " deviant " person .
As long as the person concerned is happy with that - not problem .
But we have to keep in mind the label is very much a self-fulfilling prophecy .
At he same time as it is a road to a more or less culturally accepted way of being , it is a powerful device for society to keep the labeled person in check , even if never consciously designed for that purpose.As such , the label is a cultural construct , not a reflection of unquestionable , empirical reality .
The only way to escape the restrictive simplifications imposed by the label , is to realize it 's existence and to transcend it , to face what it hides , what lies underneath , in all it 's complexity .
Even though a full understanding is not withing human reach , we can try and use more sophisticated , colorful , and - precisely because such an understanding is unattainable - fluid and open conceptions.As for autism , while i 'm aware that it is reified by scientific research , by standardized diagnosis , descriptions , therapies , statistics , organizations and popular conceptions , i 'd argue that it 's still a model , that there is no such thing as the ultimate autist , but only people , * human beings * , to whom this model , even if not fully applicable , is applied - and * ascribed * .
As i said , and as everyone who knows an " autist " will probably agree with , people labeled autists are persons and should be dealt with as persons , not as a personage from a psychology manual , popular book or expert 's description .
Manuals will never fully describe what a person is like .
They may be helpful , but only if we remain open to different realities , if we are willing to see the person we are dealing with not as an example of a certain category , but as a human being just as much , and on the same level , as ourself .
I think the world would be a better place if we tried to do so , if we tried to be understanding to each other , regardless of alleged " syndromes " , and to find ways - not in general , codified on a high level , but on the ground , in practical situations - so that everyone can feel okay with his or her place in society .
It 's idealized , i know , but we can try our best...What this means for the main s</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree, autism is not retardation.
Everyone has a slightly different way of thinking and being, whether because of genetic or experiential variability.
Some of us do not get on well with their social environment, because they differ too much, or on the wrong points, from the cultural norms.
But the "problem" is in the incompatibility, not in one side or the other.
When it's one against many, however, the minority (or the ones with least legitimacy) will become regarded as "abnormal", as people who have a certain syndrome, though we might just as well say everyone else has a "syndrome".It even doesn't have to be a minority.
The situation may be much more complex than a black and white division.
If only enough people keep on carrying an ideal that never totally fits anyone, and if they keep on hiding their own "imperfection" because they are afraid to be "deviant", the ones who do show the despised traits -  because they are too different, maybe, to be able to keep up the appearances, or because they feel imprisoned by what society imposes on them and, consciously or unconsciously, chose to do away with it - will still end up to be considered less fit, less worthy.
Even these persons, for whom the ideal turns out to be a very negative thing, often keep on supporting it, by thinking they are "different" and "unable to attain" it.And there the labeling comes into play.
A person may be relieved to find out he's "autistic".
It may help him to get recognition, support and understanding from people around him, and his family and friends may be relieved and better able to give him a place.
But it can also promote a negative self-image, rigidly structure other people's reactions - as if the person they deal with is only an instance of the "autist" type and noting else - and thereby impose yet another regime of norms and expectations on the "deviant" person.
As long as the person concerned is happy with that - not problem.
But we have to keep in mind the label is very much a self-fulfilling prophecy.
At he same time as it is a road to a more or less culturally accepted way of being, it is a powerful device for society to keep the labeled person in check, even if never consciously designed for that purpose.As such, the label is a cultural construct, not a reflection of unquestionable, empirical reality.
The only way to escape the restrictive simplifications imposed by the label, is to realize it's existence and to transcend it, to face what it hides, what lies underneath, in all it's complexity.
Even though a full understanding is not withing human reach, we can try and use more sophisticated, colorful, and - precisely because such an understanding is unattainable - fluid and open conceptions.As for autism, while i'm aware that it is reified by scientific research, by standardized diagnosis, descriptions, therapies, statistics, organizations and popular conceptions, i'd argue that it's still a model, that there is no such thing as the ultimate autist, but only people, *human beings*, to whom this model, even if not fully applicable, is applied - and *ascribed*.
As i said, and as everyone who knows an "autist" will probably agree with, people labeled autists are persons and should be dealt with as persons, not as a personage from a psychology manual, popular book or expert's description.
Manuals will never fully describe what a person is like.
They may be helpful, but only if we remain open to different realities, if we are willing to see the person we are dealing with not as an example of a certain category, but as a human being just as much, and on the same level, as ourself.
I think the world would be a better place if we tried to do so, if we tried to be understanding to each other, regardless of alleged "syndromes", and to find ways - not in general, codified on a high level, but on the ground, in practical situations - so that everyone can feel okay with his or her place in society.
It's idealized, i know, but we can try our best...What this means for the main s</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30389438</id>
	<title>Re:consultants? nice way to get out of paying heal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260466260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Free health-care in Denmark. And everyone pays all their taxes on their own, but being an intelligent country, tax-related business has been digitalized and automated already.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Free health-care in Denmark .
And everyone pays all their taxes on their own , but being an intelligent country , tax-related business has been digitalized and automated already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Free health-care in Denmark.
And everyone pays all their taxes on their own, but being an intelligent country, tax-related business has been digitalized and automated already.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384948</id>
	<title>Re:Worked with one would love to have one as sidek</title>
	<author>drseuk</author>
	<datestamp>1259602380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seconded.<br> <br>

I worked with someone with Asperger's Syndrome as part of a large Government Y2K bug "fixing" team (and it was fixing, not checking). Senior management had prioritised the fixes based on how much each database was "worth" (i.e., how much they paid for it) rather than, more sensibly, on how much the databases in question would affect citizens were they not to be fixed.<br> <br>

The result of this was that three weeks before 1/1/2000, 50 databases critical for functions such as medical care, burials, garbage collection, liquor licences, care homes etc. had not been fixed. This work-experience chap with Asperger's who up until then had basically been the post room / tea-boy (as well as carrying out rudimentary IT tasks) offered to help.<br> <br>

We let him join the team and gave him all the database documentation to read just to keep him quiet as we were busy enough. He sat reading it for two weeks and we got on with our work and left him to it.<br> <br>

Then the tape arrived with a copy of all 50 databases on it for us to fix. Before we'd arrived for work that morning, he'd opened the post, loaded the tape and was fixing the databases one by one (having prioritised them well by importance without our intervention) at an unbelievably fast typing speed. Incredibly, as he finished the fixes for each database (which we obviously tested), it turned out that he had fixed it without error (so far as we could tell).<br> <br>

He finished fixing the 50th and last database on 30/12/1999. The "post mortem analysis" (as far as we could tell) in early 2000 was that he'd fixed all 50 databases perfectly within a week.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seconded .
I worked with someone with Asperger 's Syndrome as part of a large Government Y2K bug " fixing " team ( and it was fixing , not checking ) .
Senior management had prioritised the fixes based on how much each database was " worth " ( i.e. , how much they paid for it ) rather than , more sensibly , on how much the databases in question would affect citizens were they not to be fixed .
The result of this was that three weeks before 1/1/2000 , 50 databases critical for functions such as medical care , burials , garbage collection , liquor licences , care homes etc .
had not been fixed .
This work-experience chap with Asperger 's who up until then had basically been the post room / tea-boy ( as well as carrying out rudimentary IT tasks ) offered to help .
We let him join the team and gave him all the database documentation to read just to keep him quiet as we were busy enough .
He sat reading it for two weeks and we got on with our work and left him to it .
Then the tape arrived with a copy of all 50 databases on it for us to fix .
Before we 'd arrived for work that morning , he 'd opened the post , loaded the tape and was fixing the databases one by one ( having prioritised them well by importance without our intervention ) at an unbelievably fast typing speed .
Incredibly , as he finished the fixes for each database ( which we obviously tested ) , it turned out that he had fixed it without error ( so far as we could tell ) .
He finished fixing the 50th and last database on 30/12/1999 .
The " post mortem analysis " ( as far as we could tell ) in early 2000 was that he 'd fixed all 50 databases perfectly within a week .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seconded.
I worked with someone with Asperger's Syndrome as part of a large Government Y2K bug "fixing" team (and it was fixing, not checking).
Senior management had prioritised the fixes based on how much each database was "worth" (i.e., how much they paid for it) rather than, more sensibly, on how much the databases in question would affect citizens were they not to be fixed.
The result of this was that three weeks before 1/1/2000, 50 databases critical for functions such as medical care, burials, garbage collection, liquor licences, care homes etc.
had not been fixed.
This work-experience chap with Asperger's who up until then had basically been the post room / tea-boy (as well as carrying out rudimentary IT tasks) offered to help.
We let him join the team and gave him all the database documentation to read just to keep him quiet as we were busy enough.
He sat reading it for two weeks and we got on with our work and left him to it.
Then the tape arrived with a copy of all 50 databases on it for us to fix.
Before we'd arrived for work that morning, he'd opened the post, loaded the tape and was fixing the databases one by one (having prioritised them well by importance without our intervention) at an unbelievably fast typing speed.
Incredibly, as he finished the fixes for each database (which we obviously tested), it turned out that he had fixed it without error (so far as we could tell).
He finished fixing the 50th and last database on 30/12/1999.
The "post mortem analysis" (as far as we could tell) in early 2000 was that he'd fixed all 50 databases perfectly within a week.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383878</id>
	<title>Ahah!</title>
	<author>g3k0</author>
	<datestamp>1259591400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's why they hired me!</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's why they hired me !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's why they hired me!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384144</id>
	<title>Paranoid</title>
	<author>bourdux</author>
	<datestamp>1259593860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Then what about hire paranoids as locksmiths?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then what about hire paranoids as locksmiths ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then what about hire paranoids as locksmiths?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386072</id>
	<title>Very unlikely since ..</title>
	<author>Weezul</author>
	<datestamp>1260440880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.. parents will only buy alpha genes.</p><p>What about politicians secretly creating more autistics?  Well how?  Mass exposure could easily have unwanted side effects.  Individual exposure would prove extremely expensive and make keeping secrets tricky.</p><p>I think more likely drive for enforced behavioral medication or genetic modification might be consumerism.  Imagine if malls could expose shoppers to chemicals that make impulse buying more likely.  Imagine if politicians could secretly require that baby formula include substances taht made children grow up more susceptible to impulse buying.  How many times have U.S. President's said "Go buy something!".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.. parents will only buy alpha genes.What about politicians secretly creating more autistics ?
Well how ?
Mass exposure could easily have unwanted side effects .
Individual exposure would prove extremely expensive and make keeping secrets tricky.I think more likely drive for enforced behavioral medication or genetic modification might be consumerism .
Imagine if malls could expose shoppers to chemicals that make impulse buying more likely .
Imagine if politicians could secretly require that baby formula include substances taht made children grow up more susceptible to impulse buying .
How many times have U.S. President 's said " Go buy something !
" .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.. parents will only buy alpha genes.What about politicians secretly creating more autistics?
Well how?
Mass exposure could easily have unwanted side effects.
Individual exposure would prove extremely expensive and make keeping secrets tricky.I think more likely drive for enforced behavioral medication or genetic modification might be consumerism.
Imagine if malls could expose shoppers to chemicals that make impulse buying more likely.
Imagine if politicians could secretly require that baby formula include substances taht made children grow up more susceptible to impulse buying.
How many times have U.S. President's said "Go buy something!
".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383760</id>
	<title>huxley</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259590560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If only we could figure out how to produce these assembly workers en masse from test tubes... We could call them epsilons and use them to free up the alphas for the more fun tasks!  If we train the epsilons from an early age to be happy with their role in life it would be a wonderful system for all!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If only we could figure out how to produce these assembly workers en masse from test tubes... We could call them epsilons and use them to free up the alphas for the more fun tasks !
If we train the epsilons from an early age to be happy with their role in life it would be a wonderful system for all !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If only we could figure out how to produce these assembly workers en masse from test tubes... We could call them epsilons and use them to free up the alphas for the more fun tasks!
If we train the epsilons from an early age to be happy with their role in life it would be a wonderful system for all!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384958</id>
	<title>Re:I see it coming...</title>
	<author>fbjon</author>
	<datestamp>1259602440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Isn't the idea that they'll get the same wage, but do a better job? It's not like autism == dumb as a brick.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't the idea that they 'll get the same wage , but do a better job ?
It 's not like autism = = dumb as a brick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't the idea that they'll get the same wage, but do a better job?
It's not like autism == dumb as a brick.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383942</id>
	<title>Aspiritech?  Specialisterne?</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1259592060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>These names seem to be disparaging.  Would you work for a contract agency named Shortbusstaffers or a software company named Weonlyhirethementallydifferent?</htmltext>
<tokenext>These names seem to be disparaging .
Would you work for a contract agency named Shortbusstaffers or a software company named Weonlyhirethementallydifferent ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These names seem to be disparaging.
Would you work for a contract agency named Shortbusstaffers or a software company named Weonlyhirethementallydifferent?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384168</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm</title>
	<author>roc97007</author>
	<datestamp>1259594040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Sounds like the manager at my last job.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like the manager at my last job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Sounds like the manager at my last job.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30383624</id>
	<title>Hmm</title>
	<author>roc97007</author>
	<datestamp>1259589720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
"The company says autistics have a talent for spotting imperfections, and thrive on predictable, monotonous work."
</p><p>
Sounds like manager material to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The company says autistics have a talent for spotting imperfections , and thrive on predictable , monotonous work .
" Sounds like manager material to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
"The company says autistics have a talent for spotting imperfections, and thrive on predictable, monotonous work.
"

Sounds like manager material to me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30387492</id>
	<title>Re:Aspiritech? Specialisterne?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260456900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would work at a company named dorks'r'us if I was good at what they did and it paid well.<br>You forget, we are in a recession,er, I mean a jobless recovery, er I mean the 'new normal'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would work at a company named dorks'r'us if I was good at what they did and it paid well.You forget , we are in a recession,er , I mean a jobless recovery , er I mean the 'new normal' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would work at a company named dorks'r'us if I was good at what they did and it paid well.You forget, we are in a recession,er, I mean a jobless recovery, er I mean the 'new normal'.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30387352</id>
	<title>Re:Data Sourcing</title>
	<author>sorak</author>
	<datestamp>1260456120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yes ago we were doing a data warehousing project. This involved getting other departments to build extract feeds from their system so that we could pull all the data together. Some one had to chase down progress from all these third parties. It was no fun at at all. Spending hours hassling people who were tee'd off with you 'wasting' their time.</p><p>Dave had mild Aspergers. We got him to do the hassling as he couldn't sense the irritation of the people he was calling.</p></div><p>Ahhh...Good old Dave...He will be missed.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes ago we were doing a data warehousing project .
This involved getting other departments to build extract feeds from their system so that we could pull all the data together .
Some one had to chase down progress from all these third parties .
It was no fun at at all .
Spending hours hassling people who were tee 'd off with you 'wasting ' their time.Dave had mild Aspergers .
We got him to do the hassling as he could n't sense the irritation of the people he was calling.Ahhh...Good old Dave...He will be missed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes ago we were doing a data warehousing project.
This involved getting other departments to build extract feeds from their system so that we could pull all the data together.
Some one had to chase down progress from all these third parties.
It was no fun at at all.
Spending hours hassling people who were tee'd off with you 'wasting' their time.Dave had mild Aspergers.
We got him to do the hassling as he couldn't sense the irritation of the people he was calling.Ahhh...Good old Dave...He will be missed.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30394274</id>
	<title>Re:Suggested reading: The Speed of Dark</title>
	<author>seebs</author>
	<datestamp>1260440160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That book is what convinced me to disregard the garden-variety psychologist who said I definitely wasn't autistic and talk to a specialist.  See, I read the book a few months after getting it, and I'd forgotten what the deal was.  About three chapters in, I realized that the *intent* was probably that the main character would seem alien to the reader, but he was the first rational protagonist I'd ever seen...  Oh!  Insight occurs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That book is what convinced me to disregard the garden-variety psychologist who said I definitely was n't autistic and talk to a specialist .
See , I read the book a few months after getting it , and I 'd forgotten what the deal was .
About three chapters in , I realized that the * intent * was probably that the main character would seem alien to the reader , but he was the first rational protagonist I 'd ever seen... Oh ! Insight occurs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That book is what convinced me to disregard the garden-variety psychologist who said I definitely wasn't autistic and talk to a specialist.
See, I read the book a few months after getting it, and I'd forgotten what the deal was.
About three chapters in, I realized that the *intent* was probably that the main character would seem alien to the reader, but he was the first rational protagonist I'd ever seen...  Oh!  Insight occurs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30384784</id>
	<title>QA Work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259600280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I worked as a QA intern a few years ago testing a web interface, and would regularly come across small bugs that I'd ignore. They'd be cases where a label would take an extra line and throw the layout off, or something similar.  I could have reported them, but I'd usually just just ignore them.  The reason I'd ignore them was social, I didn't want the developers thinking I was an ass for reporting minor issues.  Whereas someone with Autism would most likely ignore any social impact of reporting nitpicky.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I worked as a QA intern a few years ago testing a web interface , and would regularly come across small bugs that I 'd ignore .
They 'd be cases where a label would take an extra line and throw the layout off , or something similar .
I could have reported them , but I 'd usually just just ignore them .
The reason I 'd ignore them was social , I did n't want the developers thinking I was an ass for reporting minor issues .
Whereas someone with Autism would most likely ignore any social impact of reporting nitpicky .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I worked as a QA intern a few years ago testing a web interface, and would regularly come across small bugs that I'd ignore.
They'd be cases where a label would take an extra line and throw the layout off, or something similar.
I could have reported them, but I'd usually just just ignore them.
The reason I'd ignore them was social, I didn't want the developers thinking I was an ass for reporting minor issues.
Whereas someone with Autism would most likely ignore any social impact of reporting nitpicky.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30388424</id>
	<title>Re:I see it coming...</title>
	<author>Galestar</author>
	<datestamp>1260462600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The problem is that a bunch of kids with what used to be called "mental retardation" managed to get diagnosed as "autistic" because the latter had better benefits than the former.  Quelle surprise.</p></div><p>Hmmm, I can't seem to find the -1 ignorant mod...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is that a bunch of kids with what used to be called " mental retardation " managed to get diagnosed as " autistic " because the latter had better benefits than the former .
Quelle surprise.Hmmm , I ca n't seem to find the -1 ignorant mod.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is that a bunch of kids with what used to be called "mental retardation" managed to get diagnosed as "autistic" because the latter had better benefits than the former.
Quelle surprise.Hmmm, I can't seem to find the -1 ignorant mod...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_175245.30386806</id>
	<title>Re:People... Austism does not equal Retarded!</title>
	<author>Redwin</author>
	<datestamp>1260451080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First off, you are absolutly spot on, wish I could mod you up further!</p><p>My girlfried teaches RMPS (religious moral and philasophical studies) in Scotland and occasionally takes classes of entirely autisitc children (I say children, but all the autistic kids are male). Its very difficult to teach the concept of "belief" as the children tend to take things literally, so saying "something is like something else" is confusing for them. Naturally, to help teach this class she has some assistance from other support staff, and one of them recommended:</p><p>Thinking Autisic: This is the title<br>by Peter Vermeulen</p><p>Which was a fasinating read to anyone looking to learn more about autisim.</p><p>Cheers!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First off , you are absolutly spot on , wish I could mod you up further ! My girlfried teaches RMPS ( religious moral and philasophical studies ) in Scotland and occasionally takes classes of entirely autisitc children ( I say children , but all the autistic kids are male ) .
Its very difficult to teach the concept of " belief " as the children tend to take things literally , so saying " something is like something else " is confusing for them .
Naturally , to help teach this class she has some assistance from other support staff , and one of them recommended : Thinking Autisic : This is the titleby Peter VermeulenWhich was a fasinating read to anyone looking to learn more about autisim.Cheers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First off, you are absolutly spot on, wish I could mod you up further!My girlfried teaches RMPS (religious moral and philasophical studies) in Scotland and occasionally takes classes of entirely autisitc children (I say children, but all the autistic kids are male).
Its very difficult to teach the concept of "belief" as the children tend to take things literally, so saying "something is like something else" is confusing for them.
Naturally, to help teach this class she has some assistance from other support staff, and one of them recommended:Thinking Autisic: This is the titleby Peter VermeulenWhich was a fasinating read to anyone looking to learn more about autisim.Cheers!</sentencetext>
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