<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_08_2143212</id>
	<title>Super Strength Substance Approaching Human Trials</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1260273300000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>kkleiner writes <i>"You may remember <a href="//idle.slashdot.org/story/09/03/31/1618228/Rare-Condition-Gives-Toddler-Super-Strength">Liam Hoekstra</a>, the baby apparently born without the myostatin gene, and consequently sporting 40\% more skeletal muscle than his peers. Using gene therapy, NCH scientists have been able to get follistatin (a myostatin blocker) to promote <a href="http://singularityhub.com/2009/12/08/super-strength-substance-myostatin-one-step-closer-to-human-trials/">phenomenal muscle growth in macaque monkeys</a>. NCH is now working with the FDA to perform the preliminary steps necessary for a human clinical trial. Is this the prelude to a super-strength gene therapy for all of us?"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>kkleiner writes " You may remember Liam Hoekstra , the baby apparently born without the myostatin gene , and consequently sporting 40 \ % more skeletal muscle than his peers .
Using gene therapy , NCH scientists have been able to get follistatin ( a myostatin blocker ) to promote phenomenal muscle growth in macaque monkeys .
NCH is now working with the FDA to perform the preliminary steps necessary for a human clinical trial .
Is this the prelude to a super-strength gene therapy for all of us ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>kkleiner writes "You may remember Liam Hoekstra, the baby apparently born without the myostatin gene, and consequently sporting 40\% more skeletal muscle than his peers.
Using gene therapy, NCH scientists have been able to get follistatin (a myostatin blocker) to promote phenomenal muscle growth in macaque monkeys.
NCH is now working with the FDA to perform the preliminary steps necessary for a human clinical trial.
Is this the prelude to a super-strength gene therapy for all of us?
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372386</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1260277740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would guess the researchers are interested in treating people with severely decreased muscle mass (for whatever reason; genetics, disease, bedridden, space travel, etc.).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would guess the researchers are interested in treating people with severely decreased muscle mass ( for whatever reason ; genetics , disease , bedridden , space travel , etc .
) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would guess the researchers are interested in treating people with severely decreased muscle mass (for whatever reason; genetics, disease, bedridden, space travel, etc.
).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372294</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375954</id>
	<title>If it can help against RSI, it'll be cool...</title>
	<author>FernandoBR</author>
	<datestamp>1259587140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... but the super strength part I'll leave to the monkeys, thank you very much.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... but the super strength part I 'll leave to the monkeys , thank you very much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... but the super strength part I'll leave to the monkeys, thank you very much.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30376136</id>
	<title>Not a diet drug</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This will make developing muscle mass easier, but it won't do the work on it's own.</p><p>At best: Drug + WoW = one mighty big mouse arm.</p><p>-Matt</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This will make developing muscle mass easier , but it wo n't do the work on it 's own.At best : Drug + WoW = one mighty big mouse arm.-Matt</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This will make developing muscle mass easier, but it won't do the work on it's own.At best: Drug + WoW = one mighty big mouse arm.-Matt</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372452</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30381028</id>
	<title>Space Travel</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259576220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just a thought. Could this treatment or similar ones be used to help combat the negative effects of zero-gravity environments on humans.<br>Would be cool if we could use it to help keep our astronauts healthier or increase the duration of time they can survive in space.<br>Of coarse there are some other negative effects that would still pose problems for humans on long term missions but maybe some other discoveries are there way to help us with those.<br>Also why is there only a reply option when posting?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just a thought .
Could this treatment or similar ones be used to help combat the negative effects of zero-gravity environments on humans.Would be cool if we could use it to help keep our astronauts healthier or increase the duration of time they can survive in space.Of coarse there are some other negative effects that would still pose problems for humans on long term missions but maybe some other discoveries are there way to help us with those.Also why is there only a reply option when posting ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just a thought.
Could this treatment or similar ones be used to help combat the negative effects of zero-gravity environments on humans.Would be cool if we could use it to help keep our astronauts healthier or increase the duration of time they can survive in space.Of coarse there are some other negative effects that would still pose problems for humans on long term missions but maybe some other discoveries are there way to help us with those.Also why is there only a reply option when posting?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373188</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260283620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are an sexist idiot, which is the real reason you don't get laid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are an sexist idiot , which is the real reason you do n't get laid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are an sexist idiot, which is the real reason you don't get laid.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372442</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372406</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1260277800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>And what would we do with this super strength?</i> Chicks dig muscles.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And what would we do with this super strength ?
Chicks dig muscles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And what would we do with this super strength?
Chicks dig muscles.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372294</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373480</id>
	<title>Re:Now I'll never finish my fortress!</title>
	<author>phantomfive</author>
	<datestamp>1260286020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I REALLY want to know how that got modded informative.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I REALLY want to know how that got modded informative .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I REALLY want to know how that got modded informative.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372348</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373070</id>
	<title>Re:Skeptical about significant increase Caloric Ne</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260282660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It would also be much harder to test for than steroid abuse;</p><p>This substance inhibits production of a regulatory protien; simply stopping use would return miostatin levels to normal, while retaining the bulked up mass. (It takes time for muscles to atrophy.)</p><p>A person could theoretically "Bulk up" with a traditional muscle building regimen coupled with short term use of this product, and have 40\% more effect, discontinue use, and pass blood screenings with flying colors.</p><p>If I was the olympic judiciary panel, I would be very worried by this turn of events.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would also be much harder to test for than steroid abuse ; This substance inhibits production of a regulatory protien ; simply stopping use would return miostatin levels to normal , while retaining the bulked up mass .
( It takes time for muscles to atrophy .
) A person could theoretically " Bulk up " with a traditional muscle building regimen coupled with short term use of this product , and have 40 \ % more effect , discontinue use , and pass blood screenings with flying colors.If I was the olympic judiciary panel , I would be very worried by this turn of events .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would also be much harder to test for than steroid abuse;This substance inhibits production of a regulatory protien; simply stopping use would return miostatin levels to normal, while retaining the bulked up mass.
(It takes time for muscles to atrophy.
)A person could theoretically "Bulk up" with a traditional muscle building regimen coupled with short term use of this product, and have 40\% more effect, discontinue use, and pass blood screenings with flying colors.If I was the olympic judiciary panel, I would be very worried by this turn of events.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372864</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375690</id>
	<title>Muscular Dystrophy?</title>
	<author>jaggeh</author>
	<datestamp>1259582820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Im more interested to know if this will allow for a cure/treatment for muscular dystrophy.</p><p>My friends heart started to go over the weekend and he is being fitted with a pacemaker today. Hes 19 years old and suffers from MD.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Im more interested to know if this will allow for a cure/treatment for muscular dystrophy.My friends heart started to go over the weekend and he is being fitted with a pacemaker today .
Hes 19 years old and suffers from MD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Im more interested to know if this will allow for a cure/treatment for muscular dystrophy.My friends heart started to go over the weekend and he is being fitted with a pacemaker today.
Hes 19 years old and suffers from MD.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372828</id>
	<title>Re:Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260280680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You joke, but your image of abuse is probably very real, depending on the availability. I mean, your always going to have people that will abuse it no matter what, but imagine if you would if this falls in line with other optional surgeries and procedures. Not happy with how you look? How about some gene therapy to fix your body image? Do we really need angry people suddenly developing 40\% more muscle mass? People are assholes enough, but now there's no question they can beat the crap out of me if they get angry.

On the flip side, this sounds like it could work miracles for some with real problems.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You joke , but your image of abuse is probably very real , depending on the availability .
I mean , your always going to have people that will abuse it no matter what , but imagine if you would if this falls in line with other optional surgeries and procedures .
Not happy with how you look ?
How about some gene therapy to fix your body image ?
Do we really need angry people suddenly developing 40 \ % more muscle mass ?
People are assholes enough , but now there 's no question they can beat the crap out of me if they get angry .
On the flip side , this sounds like it could work miracles for some with real problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You joke, but your image of abuse is probably very real, depending on the availability.
I mean, your always going to have people that will abuse it no matter what, but imagine if you would if this falls in line with other optional surgeries and procedures.
Not happy with how you look?
How about some gene therapy to fix your body image?
Do we really need angry people suddenly developing 40\% more muscle mass?
People are assholes enough, but now there's no question they can beat the crap out of me if they get angry.
On the flip side, this sounds like it could work miracles for some with real problems.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372270</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374392</id>
	<title>Re:consequences</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260297480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a biologist working in this field I can tell you that the evidence isn't quite so clear.  Faster metabolism, depending on the context, doesn't mean shorter lifespan.  In fact, if you mildly leak protons from the mitochondria to increase metabolism, it seems to increase lifespan.  If you think of the electron transport chain as a water pipe, decreasing pressure via leakage of mitochondrial protons, decreases the propensity of electrons to leak.  This has the effect of reducing superoxide generation (a strong oxidant), and results in less oxidative stress and longer lifespans.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a biologist working in this field I can tell you that the evidence is n't quite so clear .
Faster metabolism , depending on the context , does n't mean shorter lifespan .
In fact , if you mildly leak protons from the mitochondria to increase metabolism , it seems to increase lifespan .
If you think of the electron transport chain as a water pipe , decreasing pressure via leakage of mitochondrial protons , decreases the propensity of electrons to leak .
This has the effect of reducing superoxide generation ( a strong oxidant ) , and results in less oxidative stress and longer lifespans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a biologist working in this field I can tell you that the evidence isn't quite so clear.
Faster metabolism, depending on the context, doesn't mean shorter lifespan.
In fact, if you mildly leak protons from the mitochondria to increase metabolism, it seems to increase lifespan.
If you think of the electron transport chain as a water pipe, decreasing pressure via leakage of mitochondrial protons, decreases the propensity of electrons to leak.
This has the effect of reducing superoxide generation (a strong oxidant), and results in less oxidative stress and longer lifespans.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373588</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373128</id>
	<title>Re:consequences</title>
	<author>benjamindees</author>
	<datestamp>1260283200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I could foresee that a small medical problem involving the digestive tract could turn into a complete crisis if they cannot get the energy they need to fight an infection from their own tissues when they need it most.</p></div><p>This argument demonstrates how the welfare state directly encourages substance abuse.  Without a guaranteed constant supply of support, individuals would not have the incentive to risk their long-term health experimenting with unproven drugs.  You're just talking about food, but how will you feel about subsidizing the health care of those who choose to risk their well-being in this way?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I could foresee that a small medical problem involving the digestive tract could turn into a complete crisis if they can not get the energy they need to fight an infection from their own tissues when they need it most.This argument demonstrates how the welfare state directly encourages substance abuse .
Without a guaranteed constant supply of support , individuals would not have the incentive to risk their long-term health experimenting with unproven drugs .
You 're just talking about food , but how will you feel about subsidizing the health care of those who choose to risk their well-being in this way ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I could foresee that a small medical problem involving the digestive tract could turn into a complete crisis if they cannot get the energy they need to fight an infection from their own tissues when they need it most.This argument demonstrates how the welfare state directly encourages substance abuse.
Without a guaranteed constant supply of support, individuals would not have the incentive to risk their long-term health experimenting with unproven drugs.
You're just talking about food, but how will you feel about subsidizing the health care of those who choose to risk their well-being in this way?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372560</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373036</id>
	<title>Just wait until they get to the elephants...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260282240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you think that's bad, just wait until they get it to work on the elephants.  I mean, after what happened to the fortress of Boatmurdered, it's like you need an Orbital Magma Cannon just to survive.  And God help you when those damn fish show up...</p><p>It's just a pity that you can't really use the elf toilet setup (where you wall them in, build a roof over them, then flood out and drown the elves, with a nice drain to flush things out afterwards) on the monsters of the Glowing Pit...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you think that 's bad , just wait until they get it to work on the elephants .
I mean , after what happened to the fortress of Boatmurdered , it 's like you need an Orbital Magma Cannon just to survive .
And God help you when those damn fish show up...It 's just a pity that you ca n't really use the elf toilet setup ( where you wall them in , build a roof over them , then flood out and drown the elves , with a nice drain to flush things out afterwards ) on the monsters of the Glowing Pit.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you think that's bad, just wait until they get it to work on the elephants.
I mean, after what happened to the fortress of Boatmurdered, it's like you need an Orbital Magma Cannon just to survive.
And God help you when those damn fish show up...It's just a pity that you can't really use the elf toilet setup (where you wall them in, build a roof over them, then flood out and drown the elves, with a nice drain to flush things out afterwards) on the monsters of the Glowing Pit...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372348</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373252</id>
	<title>You're all missing the point</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260284100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>while you're busy arguing about this whole superhuman strength stuff, you're overlooking the fact that we currently have SUPER-STRENGTH MACAQUE MONKEYS running around.  I for one welcome our Roided-Out Code Monkey Overlords.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>while you 're busy arguing about this whole superhuman strength stuff , you 're overlooking the fact that we currently have SUPER-STRENGTH MACAQUE MONKEYS running around .
I for one welcome our Roided-Out Code Monkey Overlords .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>while you're busy arguing about this whole superhuman strength stuff, you're overlooking the fact that we currently have SUPER-STRENGTH MACAQUE MONKEYS running around.
I for one welcome our Roided-Out Code Monkey Overlords.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372416</id>
	<title>No</title>
	<author>Conspiracy\_Of\_Doves</author>
	<datestamp>1260277860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, not all of us.</p><p>Just soldiers and government agents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , not all of us.Just soldiers and government agents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, not all of us.Just soldiers and government agents.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374130</id>
	<title>Re:I'll wait...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260293640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... until the joint and bone strengthening pills are also available.</p></div><p>Bone strengthening pills = viagra</p><p>But seriously, good point... I know a guy who took steroids that broke his own<br>arm in an arm wrestling match.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... until the joint and bone strengthening pills are also available.Bone strengthening pills = viagraBut seriously , good point... I know a guy who took steroids that broke his ownarm in an arm wrestling match .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... until the joint and bone strengthening pills are also available.Bone strengthening pills = viagraBut seriously, good point... I know a guy who took steroids that broke his ownarm in an arm wrestling match.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373150</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372800</id>
	<title>Re:Super Soldiers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260280500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did you read the part about eating 6 meals a day and still not thriving?  These "supermen" will have a super intensive logistical support network, not just to feed them but also to take care of their other medical quirks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you read the part about eating 6 meals a day and still not thriving ?
These " supermen " will have a super intensive logistical support network , not just to feed them but also to take care of their other medical quirks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you read the part about eating 6 meals a day and still not thriving?
These "supermen" will have a super intensive logistical support network, not just to feed them but also to take care of their other medical quirks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372636</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373170</id>
	<title>Heart Enlargement?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260283500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>So far everyone has postulated on this site that the main side effect, and the worst, would be the need to eat more. What about enlargement of the cardiac muscles? Larger hearts are prone to fail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So far everyone has postulated on this site that the main side effect , and the worst , would be the need to eat more .
What about enlargement of the cardiac muscles ?
Larger hearts are prone to fail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So far everyone has postulated on this site that the main side effect, and the worst, would be the need to eat more.
What about enlargement of the cardiac muscles?
Larger hearts are prone to fail.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373262</id>
	<title>Re:No.</title>
	<author>PitaBred</author>
	<datestamp>1260284160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a protein that occurs naturally, and after the treatment is done the muscles are there and the levels of it in the body go back to normal... how could it be tested for?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a protein that occurs naturally , and after the treatment is done the muscles are there and the levels of it in the body go back to normal... how could it be tested for ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a protein that occurs naturally, and after the treatment is done the muscles are there and the levels of it in the body go back to normal... how could it be tested for?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372394</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372574</id>
	<title>Re:No.</title>
	<author>cyphercell</author>
	<datestamp>1260278640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.steroid.com/" title="steroid.com">http://www.steroid.com/</a> [steroid.com]</p><p>Hey, yeah, that'll probably work!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.steroid.com/ [ steroid.com ] Hey , yeah , that 'll probably work !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.steroid.com/ [steroid.com]Hey, yeah, that'll probably work!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372394</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373724</id>
	<title>Re:Skeptical about significant increase Caloric Ne</title>
	<author>Burning1</author>
	<datestamp>1260288780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It depends on the sport. In many sports, raw muscle mass can be more of a detriment than a benefit. What's important is having the right muscle development, and the right kinds of muscle (fast twitch, or slow twitch.)</p><p>Look at pretty much any sport. With few exceptions, none of the competitive athletes will be build like body builders (even amateur bodybuilders.)</p><p>For example, most cyclists have strong slow-twitch muscles in their legs, and comparatively low upper body strength. Since the arms aren't used to pedal the bike, extra muscle weight there would actually drag them down as they try to climb a hill.</p><p>Same is true for martial artists... Most have a solid foundation of lean fast twitch muscle. Enough to move them, but not so much to weigh them down.</p><p>With that said, I didn't RTFA. It's not clear to me whether this medicine would cause the development of unwanted muscle for professional athletes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It depends on the sport .
In many sports , raw muscle mass can be more of a detriment than a benefit .
What 's important is having the right muscle development , and the right kinds of muscle ( fast twitch , or slow twitch .
) Look at pretty much any sport .
With few exceptions , none of the competitive athletes will be build like body builders ( even amateur bodybuilders .
) For example , most cyclists have strong slow-twitch muscles in their legs , and comparatively low upper body strength .
Since the arms are n't used to pedal the bike , extra muscle weight there would actually drag them down as they try to climb a hill.Same is true for martial artists... Most have a solid foundation of lean fast twitch muscle .
Enough to move them , but not so much to weigh them down.With that said , I did n't RTFA .
It 's not clear to me whether this medicine would cause the development of unwanted muscle for professional athletes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It depends on the sport.
In many sports, raw muscle mass can be more of a detriment than a benefit.
What's important is having the right muscle development, and the right kinds of muscle (fast twitch, or slow twitch.
)Look at pretty much any sport.
With few exceptions, none of the competitive athletes will be build like body builders (even amateur bodybuilders.
)For example, most cyclists have strong slow-twitch muscles in their legs, and comparatively low upper body strength.
Since the arms aren't used to pedal the bike, extra muscle weight there would actually drag them down as they try to climb a hill.Same is true for martial artists... Most have a solid foundation of lean fast twitch muscle.
Enough to move them, but not so much to weigh them down.With that said, I didn't RTFA.
It's not clear to me whether this medicine would cause the development of unwanted muscle for professional athletes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375544</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>hairyfish</author>
	<datestamp>1259580720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since when have big muscles ever been in fashion or considered desirable by the majority of people?
The muscle subculture will always be around, and this may help grow their numbers, but I don't think this will make it any more or less fashionable. Muscle heads will always be the freak show they have always been, there'll simply be more off them wondering why the charming slim types still get all the girls.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since when have big muscles ever been in fashion or considered desirable by the majority of people ?
The muscle subculture will always be around , and this may help grow their numbers , but I do n't think this will make it any more or less fashionable .
Muscle heads will always be the freak show they have always been , there 'll simply be more off them wondering why the charming slim types still get all the girls .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since when have big muscles ever been in fashion or considered desirable by the majority of people?
The muscle subculture will always be around, and this may help grow their numbers, but I don't think this will make it any more or less fashionable.
Muscle heads will always be the freak show they have always been, there'll simply be more off them wondering why the charming slim types still get all the girls.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30377798</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259601600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know about the sociological, biological, or economical repercussions that this would cause if a viable domestic product were to be available, but if it were I could finally get my power level to over NINE THOUSAAAAAAAND!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know about the sociological , biological , or economical repercussions that this would cause if a viable domestic product were to be available , but if it were I could finally get my power level to over NINE THOUSAAAAAAAND ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know about the sociological, biological, or economical repercussions that this would cause if a viable domestic product were to be available, but if it were I could finally get my power level to over NINE THOUSAAAAAAAND!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372986</id>
	<title>Re:Super Soldiers?</title>
	<author>Chris Burke</author>
	<datestamp>1260281760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>(a little tangent here - I'm surprised IT departments have not done this yet for Admins and programmers).</i></p><p>They pretty much do, by only drug testing prior to employment, encouraging or outright demanding their employees work extreme hours, and turning a blind eye to whatever the employee may choose to do in order to comply.  Granted, coke and meth are hardly "without side effect", but IT departments hardly have the resources of the Air Force to create experimental drugs, and they let you get the job done for a while at least, with the plus side that the employer can't and thus doesn't have to provide them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>( a little tangent here - I 'm surprised IT departments have not done this yet for Admins and programmers ) .They pretty much do , by only drug testing prior to employment , encouraging or outright demanding their employees work extreme hours , and turning a blind eye to whatever the employee may choose to do in order to comply .
Granted , coke and meth are hardly " without side effect " , but IT departments hardly have the resources of the Air Force to create experimental drugs , and they let you get the job done for a while at least , with the plus side that the employer ca n't and thus does n't have to provide them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(a little tangent here - I'm surprised IT departments have not done this yet for Admins and programmers).They pretty much do, by only drug testing prior to employment, encouraging or outright demanding their employees work extreme hours, and turning a blind eye to whatever the employee may choose to do in order to comply.
Granted, coke and meth are hardly "without side effect", but IT departments hardly have the resources of the Air Force to create experimental drugs, and they let you get the job done for a while at least, with the plus side that the employer can't and thus doesn't have to provide them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372560</id>
	<title>consequences</title>
	<author>fred fleenblat</author>
	<datestamp>1260278580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems like there is probably a reason we have myostatin and if you disable it, other health problems may result.  We're just don't know what they are yet.</p><p>Further, it seems like the people most interested in taking this drug would be bodybuilders who already have a low body fat percentage...they have little fat to burn and now this reduces the ability to metabolize their muscle tissue.  I could foresee that a small medical problem involving the digestive tract could turn into a complete crisis if they cannot get the energy they need to fight an infection from their own tissues when they need it most.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like there is probably a reason we have myostatin and if you disable it , other health problems may result .
We 're just do n't know what they are yet.Further , it seems like the people most interested in taking this drug would be bodybuilders who already have a low body fat percentage...they have little fat to burn and now this reduces the ability to metabolize their muscle tissue .
I could foresee that a small medical problem involving the digestive tract could turn into a complete crisis if they can not get the energy they need to fight an infection from their own tissues when they need it most .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like there is probably a reason we have myostatin and if you disable it, other health problems may result.
We're just don't know what they are yet.Further, it seems like the people most interested in taking this drug would be bodybuilders who already have a low body fat percentage...they have little fat to burn and now this reduces the ability to metabolize their muscle tissue.
I could foresee that a small medical problem involving the digestive tract could turn into a complete crisis if they cannot get the energy they need to fight an infection from their own tissues when they need it most.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372890</id>
	<title>I always wondered...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260281100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>How the apes got the upper hand.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How the apes got the upper hand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How the apes got the upper hand.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30376364</id>
	<title>Re:Super Soldiers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You forget if they develop a drug you can simply bulk them up before shipping them off. Once you stop the drug their metabolic need (while still great) will dramatically decline.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You forget if they develop a drug you can simply bulk them up before shipping them off .
Once you stop the drug their metabolic need ( while still great ) will dramatically decline .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forget if they develop a drug you can simply bulk them up before shipping them off.
Once you stop the drug their metabolic need (while still great) will dramatically decline.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374670</id>
	<title>Re:consequences</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260301080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Hopefully he doesn't turn into a Jack</p> </div><p>I agree. There are few things worse than becoming Robin Williams in one of his weepy please-won't-everyone-like-me tearjerker "comedy" roles.</p><p>I mean, I though about becoming a teacher, but was afraid I'd wake up one day and be all Dead Poets Society. Gave me the willies.</p><p>
&nbsp; (Heh. My captcha is "heckle". Take that, popular comedian!)</p></div>
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<tokenext>Hopefully he does n't turn into a Jack I agree .
There are few things worse than becoming Robin Williams in one of his weepy please-wo n't-everyone-like-me tearjerker " comedy " roles.I mean , I though about becoming a teacher , but was afraid I 'd wake up one day and be all Dead Poets Society .
Gave me the willies .
  ( Heh .
My captcha is " heckle " .
Take that , popular comedian !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hopefully he doesn't turn into a Jack I agree.
There are few things worse than becoming Robin Williams in one of his weepy please-won't-everyone-like-me tearjerker "comedy" roles.I mean, I though about becoming a teacher, but was afraid I'd wake up one day and be all Dead Poets Society.
Gave me the willies.
  (Heh.
My captcha is "heckle".
Take that, popular comedian!
)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30376178</id>
	<title>Re:Fastest way to burn calories is to gain musclem</title>
	<author>chainsaw1</author>
	<datestamp>1259589960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The article also stated that Liam had to have a lot of protien, which makes sense if you are building excess muscle mass.  Unfortunately your dream of converting Big Macs to bulging biceps is only 1/2 complete unless you can get extra beef rather than special sauce as part of your calorie intake.  Empty calories alone probably aren't going to work.</p><p>Now then, your Whopper with a Protein Shake rather than that chocolate shake may do the trick.<br>Beefcake.  BeefCake!  BEEEEEEF CAKE!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The article also stated that Liam had to have a lot of protien , which makes sense if you are building excess muscle mass .
Unfortunately your dream of converting Big Macs to bulging biceps is only 1/2 complete unless you can get extra beef rather than special sauce as part of your calorie intake .
Empty calories alone probably are n't going to work.Now then , your Whopper with a Protein Shake rather than that chocolate shake may do the trick.Beefcake .
BeefCake ! BEEEEEEF CAKE !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article also stated that Liam had to have a lot of protien, which makes sense if you are building excess muscle mass.
Unfortunately your dream of converting Big Macs to bulging biceps is only 1/2 complete unless you can get extra beef rather than special sauce as part of your calorie intake.
Empty calories alone probably aren't going to work.Now then, your Whopper with a Protein Shake rather than that chocolate shake may do the trick.Beefcake.
BeefCake!  BEEEEEEF CAKE!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372502</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>compro01</author>
	<datestamp>1260278220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The human is the best animal in the brain department</p></div><p>Which we are using to (attempt to) become better than everything at everything.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The human is the best animal in the brain departmentWhich we are using to ( attempt to ) become better than everything at everything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The human is the best animal in the brain departmentWhich we are using to (attempt to) become better than everything at everything.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30377004</id>
	<title>Re:Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>markov\_chain</author>
	<datestamp>1259596800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If there is anything that being a punching bag taught me, it is that you don't need muscle mass to be a dangerous, angry asshole- a temper and a set of abusive parents is quite enough.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If there is anything that being a punching bag taught me , it is that you do n't need muscle mass to be a dangerous , angry asshole- a temper and a set of abusive parents is quite enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there is anything that being a punching bag taught me, it is that you don't need muscle mass to be a dangerous, angry asshole- a temper and a set of abusive parents is quite enough.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373452</id>
	<title>I remember super-baby... BAD idea</title>
	<author>erroneus</author>
	<datestamp>1260285720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of the details I recall from the story and discussion about super-baby was that if there was a way to make this happen in normal people, that it would be a bad idea because there is a limit to the amount of muscular growth possible and would result in a premature exhaustion of that potential.  And I don't recall what the consensus actually was on the effects it could have on bone development and maintenance, but I can't imagine it would be good either.</p><p>The body is the way it is for good reasons.  You can thank "god" for it or you can thank evolutionary forces.  Whatever the case, I can't imagine that this is a favorable mutation to induce.</p><p>On the other hand, if it helps muscular dystrophy kids, I'm completely for it being tested on humans.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the details I recall from the story and discussion about super-baby was that if there was a way to make this happen in normal people , that it would be a bad idea because there is a limit to the amount of muscular growth possible and would result in a premature exhaustion of that potential .
And I do n't recall what the consensus actually was on the effects it could have on bone development and maintenance , but I ca n't imagine it would be good either.The body is the way it is for good reasons .
You can thank " god " for it or you can thank evolutionary forces .
Whatever the case , I ca n't imagine that this is a favorable mutation to induce.On the other hand , if it helps muscular dystrophy kids , I 'm completely for it being tested on humans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the details I recall from the story and discussion about super-baby was that if there was a way to make this happen in normal people, that it would be a bad idea because there is a limit to the amount of muscular growth possible and would result in a premature exhaustion of that potential.
And I don't recall what the consensus actually was on the effects it could have on bone development and maintenance, but I can't imagine it would be good either.The body is the way it is for good reasons.
You can thank "god" for it or you can thank evolutionary forces.
Whatever the case, I can't imagine that this is a favorable mutation to induce.On the other hand, if it helps muscular dystrophy kids, I'm completely for it being tested on humans.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375338</id>
	<title>Re:Um, there are not-unforseen problems</title>
	<author>ultranova</author>
	<datestamp>1259577540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Because of that little theory called "evolution." Natural selection should kill you off if you are too stupid to obtain food, or too stupid to follow the heard, or too stupid to cultivate crops. I doubt we would have a food shortage if all you evil bastards stopped donating to starving kids in Africa charities.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Cool troll, bro.</p><p>You're wrong, of course: evolution isn't about the weak dying, it's about traits that help you get kids becoming more widespread in population over time. One of these traits is empathy, a side effect of which is why people donate to starving kids in Africa.</p><blockquote><div><p>Look people, they had their chance just like ever single other lineage. They grew incapable of sustaining their own lives, the burden is not on us to keep them alive, and THAT is what is causing a food shortage. If they are incapable of obtaining food (through hunting, gathering, or you know, CROP CULTIVATION) they should all starve to death so the rest of us have more resources.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Who's this "us" you are talking about? It seems to me that you, with your presumably superior genetics, are a greater threat/competition to me than these inferior people; consequently, the most rational strategy for me would be to ally with them against you.</p><p>That's why empathy is an evolutionary advantage, BTW: it short-circuits this kind of cold rationality and keeps people from betraying each other even when it's in their own personal best interests, which in turn allows socities to form and grow.</p><blockquote><div><p>It's disgusting to see people actual donate to the starving kids in Africa funds because it allows those specific Africans to continue living off handouts in disease infested squalor, rather than migrating to an area capable of sustaining their very own lives. Shame on you charity corporations for preserving and perpetuating human suffering.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Most inhabited areas of Africa are more than capable of supporting their populations, actually. The problem is cultural; Africa was still at the stage of tribalism when it was conquered by Europe. Those areas that have been able to leave it behind, and not fallen into hands of more or less insane dictators, are doing quite well; the rest have a bunch of warlords burning the crops or killing farmers.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Because of that little theory called " evolution .
" Natural selection should kill you off if you are too stupid to obtain food , or too stupid to follow the heard , or too stupid to cultivate crops .
I doubt we would have a food shortage if all you evil bastards stopped donating to starving kids in Africa charities .
Cool troll , bro.You 're wrong , of course : evolution is n't about the weak dying , it 's about traits that help you get kids becoming more widespread in population over time .
One of these traits is empathy , a side effect of which is why people donate to starving kids in Africa.Look people , they had their chance just like ever single other lineage .
They grew incapable of sustaining their own lives , the burden is not on us to keep them alive , and THAT is what is causing a food shortage .
If they are incapable of obtaining food ( through hunting , gathering , or you know , CROP CULTIVATION ) they should all starve to death so the rest of us have more resources .
Who 's this " us " you are talking about ?
It seems to me that you , with your presumably superior genetics , are a greater threat/competition to me than these inferior people ; consequently , the most rational strategy for me would be to ally with them against you.That 's why empathy is an evolutionary advantage , BTW : it short-circuits this kind of cold rationality and keeps people from betraying each other even when it 's in their own personal best interests , which in turn allows socities to form and grow.It 's disgusting to see people actual donate to the starving kids in Africa funds because it allows those specific Africans to continue living off handouts in disease infested squalor , rather than migrating to an area capable of sustaining their very own lives .
Shame on you charity corporations for preserving and perpetuating human suffering .
Most inhabited areas of Africa are more than capable of supporting their populations , actually .
The problem is cultural ; Africa was still at the stage of tribalism when it was conquered by Europe .
Those areas that have been able to leave it behind , and not fallen into hands of more or less insane dictators , are doing quite well ; the rest have a bunch of warlords burning the crops or killing farmers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because of that little theory called "evolution.
" Natural selection should kill you off if you are too stupid to obtain food, or too stupid to follow the heard, or too stupid to cultivate crops.
I doubt we would have a food shortage if all you evil bastards stopped donating to starving kids in Africa charities.
Cool troll, bro.You're wrong, of course: evolution isn't about the weak dying, it's about traits that help you get kids becoming more widespread in population over time.
One of these traits is empathy, a side effect of which is why people donate to starving kids in Africa.Look people, they had their chance just like ever single other lineage.
They grew incapable of sustaining their own lives, the burden is not on us to keep them alive, and THAT is what is causing a food shortage.
If they are incapable of obtaining food (through hunting, gathering, or you know, CROP CULTIVATION) they should all starve to death so the rest of us have more resources.
Who's this "us" you are talking about?
It seems to me that you, with your presumably superior genetics, are a greater threat/competition to me than these inferior people; consequently, the most rational strategy for me would be to ally with them against you.That's why empathy is an evolutionary advantage, BTW: it short-circuits this kind of cold rationality and keeps people from betraying each other even when it's in their own personal best interests, which in turn allows socities to form and grow.It's disgusting to see people actual donate to the starving kids in Africa funds because it allows those specific Africans to continue living off handouts in disease infested squalor, rather than migrating to an area capable of sustaining their very own lives.
Shame on you charity corporations for preserving and perpetuating human suffering.
Most inhabited areas of Africa are more than capable of supporting their populations, actually.
The problem is cultural; Africa was still at the stage of tribalism when it was conquered by Europe.
Those areas that have been able to leave it behind, and not fallen into hands of more or less insane dictators, are doing quite well; the rest have a bunch of warlords burning the crops or killing farmers.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372512</id>
	<title>Funny, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260278280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...why are all of these rated so Low?  The Score dude doesn't appreciate good humor?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...why are all of these rated so Low ?
The Score dude does n't appreciate good humor ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...why are all of these rated so Low?
The Score dude doesn't appreciate good humor?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375016</id>
	<title>Obligatory reference</title>
	<author>doublegauss</author>
	<datestamp>1259572080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal\_Eggs" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">of things that may go wrong</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>of things that may go wrong [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>of things that may go wrong [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373554</id>
	<title>Re:Um, there are not-unforseen problems</title>
	<author>Zordak</author>
	<datestamp>1260286980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We have a world food distribution/shortage problem as it is. Imagine SUPER STRONG STARVING Humans.</p></div><p>Michael Bay is on the phone.  He'd like to have a word with you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We have a world food distribution/shortage problem as it is .
Imagine SUPER STRONG STARVING Humans.Michael Bay is on the phone .
He 'd like to have a word with you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have a world food distribution/shortage problem as it is.
Imagine SUPER STRONG STARVING Humans.Michael Bay is on the phone.
He'd like to have a word with you.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30376960</id>
	<title>Re:I hope it never becomes available to normal peo</title>
	<author>ErikZ</author>
	<datestamp>1259596500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You then oppose farm equipment, calculators, and automobiles also?</p><p>If the future consists of popping pills to get great bodies, you're right, people won't appreciate the hard work it used to take to get into that shape. Because it no longer takes hard work to get into that shape.</p><p>I drive 18 miles to work every morning. I keep on trying to figure out ways to turn that into exercise, but it's just too far, and even on a bike will take too long. Walking would take me about 7 hours to get to work. Takes me about 20 minutes on a good day to drive there. Welcome to the modern age.</p><p>Also, it's not "Too many people in this country". It's HUMANITY. All of humanity want something for the least amount of work and effort to get it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You then oppose farm equipment , calculators , and automobiles also ? If the future consists of popping pills to get great bodies , you 're right , people wo n't appreciate the hard work it used to take to get into that shape .
Because it no longer takes hard work to get into that shape.I drive 18 miles to work every morning .
I keep on trying to figure out ways to turn that into exercise , but it 's just too far , and even on a bike will take too long .
Walking would take me about 7 hours to get to work .
Takes me about 20 minutes on a good day to drive there .
Welcome to the modern age.Also , it 's not " Too many people in this country " .
It 's HUMANITY .
All of humanity want something for the least amount of work and effort to get it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You then oppose farm equipment, calculators, and automobiles also?If the future consists of popping pills to get great bodies, you're right, people won't appreciate the hard work it used to take to get into that shape.
Because it no longer takes hard work to get into that shape.I drive 18 miles to work every morning.
I keep on trying to figure out ways to turn that into exercise, but it's just too far, and even on a bike will take too long.
Walking would take me about 7 hours to get to work.
Takes me about 20 minutes on a good day to drive there.
Welcome to the modern age.Also, it's not "Too many people in this country".
It's HUMANITY.
All of humanity want something for the least amount of work and effort to get it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372866</id>
	<title>Re:Super Soldiers?</title>
	<author>sexconker</author>
	<datestamp>1260280980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The human brain operates on around a 22.5 hour cycle.  Sleep, the sun, diet, and routine are enough to compensate for the 1.5 hour difference between our wired cycle and the Earth''s rotational cycle.</p><p>The Navy operates submarines (shift-wise) on a 16-hour cycle.  And without the sun, that shit gets fucked up enough as it is.</p><p>The solution?  Nothing - power through, boys!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The human brain operates on around a 22.5 hour cycle .
Sleep , the sun , diet , and routine are enough to compensate for the 1.5 hour difference between our wired cycle and the Earth ' 's rotational cycle.The Navy operates submarines ( shift-wise ) on a 16-hour cycle .
And without the sun , that shit gets fucked up enough as it is.The solution ?
Nothing - power through , boys !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The human brain operates on around a 22.5 hour cycle.
Sleep, the sun, diet, and routine are enough to compensate for the 1.5 hour difference between our wired cycle and the Earth''s rotational cycle.The Navy operates submarines (shift-wise) on a 16-hour cycle.
And without the sun, that shit gets fucked up enough as it is.The solution?
Nothing - power through, boys!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372636</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372440</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1260277980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>first off, you would have 40\% more muscle with no effort. The ladies will be a callin'</p><p>Second off, you cold intimidate someone else to lift the DB server</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>first off , you would have 40 \ % more muscle with no effort .
The ladies will be a callin'Second off , you cold intimidate someone else to lift the DB server</tokentext>
<sentencetext>first off, you would have 40\% more muscle with no effort.
The ladies will be a callin'Second off, you cold intimidate someone else to lift the DB server</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375502</id>
	<title>Re:Um, there are not-unforseen problems</title>
	<author>maxm</author>
	<datestamp>1259579880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No problem. We will just feed it to our livestock too. 30\% more meat instantly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No problem .
We will just feed it to our livestock too .
30 \ % more meat instantly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No problem.
We will just feed it to our livestock too.
30\% more meat instantly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372456</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372636</id>
	<title>Super Soldiers?</title>
	<author>SpuriousLogic</author>
	<datestamp>1260279120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously, if we had soldiers that were 40\% stronger, that would be a huge advantage.  They could carry more gear, or more powerful weapons, and be considerably more effective than "normal" soldiers.  The Air Force already has done trials on drugs that allow pilots to stay awake for days without side effect(a little tangent here - I'm surprised IT departments have not done this yet for Admins and programmers).  You have got to think the Army and Marines would be VERY interested in this if it is viable.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , if we had soldiers that were 40 \ % stronger , that would be a huge advantage .
They could carry more gear , or more powerful weapons , and be considerably more effective than " normal " soldiers .
The Air Force already has done trials on drugs that allow pilots to stay awake for days without side effect ( a little tangent here - I 'm surprised IT departments have not done this yet for Admins and programmers ) .
You have got to think the Army and Marines would be VERY interested in this if it is viable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, if we had soldiers that were 40\% stronger, that would be a huge advantage.
They could carry more gear, or more powerful weapons, and be considerably more effective than "normal" soldiers.
The Air Force already has done trials on drugs that allow pilots to stay awake for days without side effect(a little tangent here - I'm surprised IT departments have not done this yet for Admins and programmers).
You have got to think the Army and Marines would be VERY interested in this if it is viable.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30386504</id>
	<title>Re:Now I'll never finish my fortress!</title>
	<author>RivenAleem</author>
	<datestamp>1260446820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I for one would like to be informed when super strong monkeys are bearing down on my fortress</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I for one would like to be informed when super strong monkeys are bearing down on my fortress</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I for one would like to be informed when super strong monkeys are bearing down on my fortress</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373480</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374190</id>
	<title>Re:Super Soldiers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260294720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Since the US adopted a policy of only fighting wars against tiny Orientals or half-starved Arabs, they're already 40\% stronger than the opposition.</p></div><p>Call the rest of the world next time you actually *win* one of these wars, thanks!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since the US adopted a policy of only fighting wars against tiny Orientals or half-starved Arabs , they 're already 40 \ % stronger than the opposition.Call the rest of the world next time you actually * win * one of these wars , thanks !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since the US adopted a policy of only fighting wars against tiny Orientals or half-starved Arabs, they're already 40\% stronger than the opposition.Call the rest of the world next time you actually *win* one of these wars, thanks!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372930</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374314</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Artifakt</author>
	<datestamp>1260296460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fat people mostly have quite a bit of muscle in the legs and lower torso, because they have been building it moving their mass around, even if they are not very active. They don't tend towards muscle in the upper torso and arms. Going on a diet to lose weight usually results in loss of both fat and muscle mass. I've seem a few cases where a fat person managed to lose weight mostly by exercise, and it can be remarkable - i.e. a sedentary 260 lb. middle aged woman who could do 320 on the leg press machine from her first day at the gym. She didn't have a lot of endurance, dexterity, or upper body strength when she started, but legs? Yeah, she had those, and after eight months, she was down to 180, and could leg press over twice her weight, and kick higher than her head. I hope she's kept up with it since I saw her last, but even in the still chunky range, I'd estimate she was seriously lethal with those kicks if she ever needed to be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fat people mostly have quite a bit of muscle in the legs and lower torso , because they have been building it moving their mass around , even if they are not very active .
They do n't tend towards muscle in the upper torso and arms .
Going on a diet to lose weight usually results in loss of both fat and muscle mass .
I 've seem a few cases where a fat person managed to lose weight mostly by exercise , and it can be remarkable - i.e .
a sedentary 260 lb .
middle aged woman who could do 320 on the leg press machine from her first day at the gym .
She did n't have a lot of endurance , dexterity , or upper body strength when she started , but legs ?
Yeah , she had those , and after eight months , she was down to 180 , and could leg press over twice her weight , and kick higher than her head .
I hope she 's kept up with it since I saw her last , but even in the still chunky range , I 'd estimate she was seriously lethal with those kicks if she ever needed to be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fat people mostly have quite a bit of muscle in the legs and lower torso, because they have been building it moving their mass around, even if they are not very active.
They don't tend towards muscle in the upper torso and arms.
Going on a diet to lose weight usually results in loss of both fat and muscle mass.
I've seem a few cases where a fat person managed to lose weight mostly by exercise, and it can be remarkable - i.e.
a sedentary 260 lb.
middle aged woman who could do 320 on the leg press machine from her first day at the gym.
She didn't have a lot of endurance, dexterity, or upper body strength when she started, but legs?
Yeah, she had those, and after eight months, she was down to 180, and could leg press over twice her weight, and kick higher than her head.
I hope she's kept up with it since I saw her last, but even in the still chunky range, I'd estimate she was seriously lethal with those kicks if she ever needed to be.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372740</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372930</id>
	<title>Re:Super Soldiers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260281400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since the US adopted a policy of only fighting wars against tiny Orientals or half-starved Arabs, they're already 40\% stronger than the opposition.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since the US adopted a policy of only fighting wars against tiny Orientals or half-starved Arabs , they 're already 40 \ % stronger than the opposition .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since the US adopted a policy of only fighting wars against tiny Orientals or half-starved Arabs, they're already 40\% stronger than the opposition.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372636</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373244</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>PitaBred</author>
	<datestamp>1260284100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, it's not gene therapy. It's a protein. You get the injections, you build the muscles, and they just stay after it's gone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , it 's not gene therapy .
It 's a protein .
You get the injections , you build the muscles , and they just stay after it 's gone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, it's not gene therapy.
It's a protein.
You get the injections, you build the muscles, and they just stay after it's gone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30415166</id>
	<title>Re:consequences</title>
	<author>badkarmadayaccount</author>
	<datestamp>1260642240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If we can tweak sleep, we might as well get rid of it. I'm all for that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If we can tweak sleep , we might as well get rid of it .
I 'm all for that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we can tweak sleep, we might as well get rid of it.
I'm all for that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372784</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372372</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260277620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is my reaction too.  Also, what is the cost of having to maintain all these muscles?  Do you have to eat more than the normal person?  Do you lose all your fine motor control?</p><p>The human is the best animal in the brain department.  Why don't they try to improve what we're good at?  Why compete with the Gorilla?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is my reaction too .
Also , what is the cost of having to maintain all these muscles ?
Do you have to eat more than the normal person ?
Do you lose all your fine motor control ? The human is the best animal in the brain department .
Why do n't they try to improve what we 're good at ?
Why compete with the Gorilla ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is my reaction too.
Also, what is the cost of having to maintain all these muscles?
Do you have to eat more than the normal person?
Do you lose all your fine motor control?The human is the best animal in the brain department.
Why don't they try to improve what we're good at?
Why compete with the Gorilla?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375250</id>
	<title>Re:Helpful for the Obese...</title>
	<author>Anti\_Climax</author>
	<datestamp>1259575920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>One of the problems with wanting to lose weight is by the time you become a large tub, you no longer have enough muscle to move around and exercise</p></div></blockquote><p>Or you could, you know, reduce calorie intake and do something less strenuous like walking for a half hour each day to keep your metabolism from crashing.</p><p>A morbidly obese individual can drop 100lbs of pure fat in 6 months doing that - I've done it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the problems with wanting to lose weight is by the time you become a large tub , you no longer have enough muscle to move around and exerciseOr you could , you know , reduce calorie intake and do something less strenuous like walking for a half hour each day to keep your metabolism from crashing.A morbidly obese individual can drop 100lbs of pure fat in 6 months doing that - I 've done it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the problems with wanting to lose weight is by the time you become a large tub, you no longer have enough muscle to move around and exerciseOr you could, you know, reduce calorie intake and do something less strenuous like walking for a half hour each day to keep your metabolism from crashing.A morbidly obese individual can drop 100lbs of pure fat in 6 months doing that - I've done it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373716</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>mcrbids</author>
	<datestamp>1260288660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>That brings up interesting questions about what happens when your musculo-skeletal system and your nervous system start fighting for calories. The stereotypical big dumb guy?</i></p><p>This stereotype is just that - a stereotype. Numerous studies have been done, and there is no particular correlation between intelligence and muscle tone and/or general body strength. If anything, stronger people tend to be smarter, as the greater strength implies good general health, which IS a factor in promoting intelligence. (sickly, weak people generally don't do well on IQ tests)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That brings up interesting questions about what happens when your musculo-skeletal system and your nervous system start fighting for calories .
The stereotypical big dumb guy ? This stereotype is just that - a stereotype .
Numerous studies have been done , and there is no particular correlation between intelligence and muscle tone and/or general body strength .
If anything , stronger people tend to be smarter , as the greater strength implies good general health , which IS a factor in promoting intelligence .
( sickly , weak people generally do n't do well on IQ tests )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That brings up interesting questions about what happens when your musculo-skeletal system and your nervous system start fighting for calories.
The stereotypical big dumb guy?This stereotype is just that - a stereotype.
Numerous studies have been done, and there is no particular correlation between intelligence and muscle tone and/or general body strength.
If anything, stronger people tend to be smarter, as the greater strength implies good general health, which IS a factor in promoting intelligence.
(sickly, weak people generally don't do well on IQ tests)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30380748</id>
	<title>Re:I hope it never becomes available to normal peo</title>
	<author>StikyPad</author>
	<datestamp>1259574960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I guess your really hate that using a computer no longer requires programming knowledge as well?</i></p><p>Totally.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess your really hate that using a computer no longer requires programming knowledge as well ? Totally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess your really hate that using a computer no longer requires programming knowledge as well?Totally.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372908</id>
	<title>Re:Super Soldiers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260281220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Admins and programmers already "juice" on caffeine pills, power drinks, caffeine shampoos, cocaine, meth, coffee, and masturbating before in the morning before/during the drive to work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Admins and programmers already " juice " on caffeine pills , power drinks , caffeine shampoos , cocaine , meth , coffee , and masturbating before in the morning before/during the drive to work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Admins and programmers already "juice" on caffeine pills, power drinks, caffeine shampoos, cocaine, meth, coffee, and masturbating before in the morning before/during the drive to work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372714</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>timeOday</author>
	<datestamp>1260279720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sure you're right, but I'll bet the main commercial application will be found in super-meaty chickens and cows.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure you 're right , but I 'll bet the main commercial application will be found in super-meaty chickens and cows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure you're right, but I'll bet the main commercial application will be found in super-meaty chickens and cows.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372816</id>
	<title>The way of things...</title>
	<author>WheelDweller</author>
	<datestamp>1260280620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ya know, I've seen  A LOT of announcements here, like the ever-popular flexible displays that are always "just around the corner" since about 1996, but there's a reality about things like this.</p><p>1. It's not a guaranteed arrival. Nothing in here says you get, for example, to keep the use of your penis, or that you'll be able to take the medicine AND sleep at night.</p><p>2. This won't likely start a new race of uber-supermen as one might guess. What it *will* do is complicate Oylmpic candidates and other sport.</p><p>I hate to be Slashdot's wet blanket, but I'm an old man, and I've seen a LOT of these things come to nothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ya know , I 've seen A LOT of announcements here , like the ever-popular flexible displays that are always " just around the corner " since about 1996 , but there 's a reality about things like this.1 .
It 's not a guaranteed arrival .
Nothing in here says you get , for example , to keep the use of your penis , or that you 'll be able to take the medicine AND sleep at night.2 .
This wo n't likely start a new race of uber-supermen as one might guess .
What it * will * do is complicate Oylmpic candidates and other sport.I hate to be Slashdot 's wet blanket , but I 'm an old man , and I 've seen a LOT of these things come to nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ya know, I've seen  A LOT of announcements here, like the ever-popular flexible displays that are always "just around the corner" since about 1996, but there's a reality about things like this.1.
It's not a guaranteed arrival.
Nothing in here says you get, for example, to keep the use of your penis, or that you'll be able to take the medicine AND sleep at night.2.
This won't likely start a new race of uber-supermen as one might guess.
What it *will* do is complicate Oylmpic candidates and other sport.I hate to be Slashdot's wet blanket, but I'm an old man, and I've seen a LOT of these things come to nothing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30377442</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>plague3106</author>
	<datestamp>1259599440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, if you don't eat enough to maintain all the muscle, you'll lose it until your body is in equilibrium.</p><p>Of course, I have started bodybuilding, and I STILL eat less calories than your average fat ass (I take in around 3,500 / day, the average fatass is likely 5000+ a day).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , if you do n't eat enough to maintain all the muscle , you 'll lose it until your body is in equilibrium.Of course , I have started bodybuilding , and I STILL eat less calories than your average fat ass ( I take in around 3,500 / day , the average fatass is likely 5000 + a day ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, if you don't eat enough to maintain all the muscle, you'll lose it until your body is in equilibrium.Of course, I have started bodybuilding, and I STILL eat less calories than your average fat ass (I take in around 3,500 / day, the average fatass is likely 5000+ a day).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372656</id>
	<title>Re:Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>ArundelCastle</author>
	<datestamp>1260279240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://heroeswiki.com/Shenkar" title="heroeswiki.com" rel="nofollow">[[Shenkar vocal solo]]</a> [heroeswiki.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>[ [ Shenkar vocal solo ] ] [ heroeswiki.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[[Shenkar vocal solo]] [heroeswiki.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30379718</id>
	<title>Re:consequences</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259611980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most bodybuilders have more body fat than I did when I was 8-16 years old.<br>I do not see this as a major issue, simply eat 6 meals a day and sleep less, you will gain weight at the cost of your health, this was the solution that worked for me. Today I'm 21, eat one meal a day and have a healthy amount of body fat, and half the muscle mass I did when I was in high school.</p><p>Certainly people like myself should not take such a drug, but for the average person I say go for it, hell I would take it if that means I can get back to where I was without the effort.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most bodybuilders have more body fat than I did when I was 8-16 years old.I do not see this as a major issue , simply eat 6 meals a day and sleep less , you will gain weight at the cost of your health , this was the solution that worked for me .
Today I 'm 21 , eat one meal a day and have a healthy amount of body fat , and half the muscle mass I did when I was in high school.Certainly people like myself should not take such a drug , but for the average person I say go for it , hell I would take it if that means I can get back to where I was without the effort .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most bodybuilders have more body fat than I did when I was 8-16 years old.I do not see this as a major issue, simply eat 6 meals a day and sleep less, you will gain weight at the cost of your health, this was the solution that worked for me.
Today I'm 21, eat one meal a day and have a healthy amount of body fat, and half the muscle mass I did when I was in high school.Certainly people like myself should not take such a drug, but for the average person I say go for it, hell I would take it if that means I can get back to where I was without the effort.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372382</id>
	<title>Wicked!</title>
	<author>Ann O'Nymous-Coward</author>
	<datestamp>1260277680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All Elphaba needs to do is graft some wings onto those macaques, and she's all set!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All Elphaba needs to do is graft some wings onto those macaques , and she 's all set !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All Elphaba needs to do is graft some wings onto those macaques, and she's all set!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372652</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260279240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It could cure obesity: more muscles increases your resting metabolic rate.</p></div><p>Muscles turn into fat when you quit training. Add some alcoholic beverages in the mix and it's the opposite of the cure for obesity.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It could cure obesity : more muscles increases your resting metabolic rate.Muscles turn into fat when you quit training .
Add some alcoholic beverages in the mix and it 's the opposite of the cure for obesity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It could cure obesity: more muscles increases your resting metabolic rate.Muscles turn into fat when you quit training.
Add some alcoholic beverages in the mix and it's the opposite of the cure for obesity.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372676</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260279420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>No need to guess, from TFA:<br> <br>

"The National Children's Hospital interest in myostatin is not to create super strong children, but to help those children whose muscles have already atrophied. Muscular Dystrophy (MD) affects thousands of children in the US who slowly lose muscle and rarely survive into adulthood. Follistatin gene therapy could serve as a method to extend their lives or perhaps even reverse the symptoms of their conditions. Likewise, the eldery are susceptible to several diseases that lead to a loss of muscle strength and coordination. By blocking myostatin, we may all be able to live with the strength of our youth even as we age into our 80s."</htmltext>
<tokenext>No need to guess , from TFA : " The National Children 's Hospital interest in myostatin is not to create super strong children , but to help those children whose muscles have already atrophied .
Muscular Dystrophy ( MD ) affects thousands of children in the US who slowly lose muscle and rarely survive into adulthood .
Follistatin gene therapy could serve as a method to extend their lives or perhaps even reverse the symptoms of their conditions .
Likewise , the eldery are susceptible to several diseases that lead to a loss of muscle strength and coordination .
By blocking myostatin , we may all be able to live with the strength of our youth even as we age into our 80s .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No need to guess, from TFA: 

"The National Children's Hospital interest in myostatin is not to create super strong children, but to help those children whose muscles have already atrophied.
Muscular Dystrophy (MD) affects thousands of children in the US who slowly lose muscle and rarely survive into adulthood.
Follistatin gene therapy could serve as a method to extend their lives or perhaps even reverse the symptoms of their conditions.
Likewise, the eldery are susceptible to several diseases that lead to a loss of muscle strength and coordination.
By blocking myostatin, we may all be able to live with the strength of our youth even as we age into our 80s.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373444</id>
	<title>why evil?</title>
	<author>nten</author>
	<datestamp>1260285720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why will the artificially created person end up evil, while the naturally born child be ok?  That is the cliche of course, because nature knows best right?  I find the neoluddite underpinnings of the cliche to be disgusting.  Its far more likely that a normal mature adult given superstrength would behave rationally, than a child who grew up stronger than everyone around them.  The latter seems like a recipe for all sorts of neurosis.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why will the artificially created person end up evil , while the naturally born child be ok ?
That is the cliche of course , because nature knows best right ?
I find the neoluddite underpinnings of the cliche to be disgusting .
Its far more likely that a normal mature adult given superstrength would behave rationally , than a child who grew up stronger than everyone around them .
The latter seems like a recipe for all sorts of neurosis .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why will the artificially created person end up evil, while the naturally born child be ok?
That is the cliche of course, because nature knows best right?
I find the neoluddite underpinnings of the cliche to be disgusting.
Its far more likely that a normal mature adult given superstrength would behave rationally, than a child who grew up stronger than everyone around them.
The latter seems like a recipe for all sorts of neurosis.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372426</id>
	<title>Fun at the Olympics in 20 years.</title>
	<author>sparkeyjames</author>
	<datestamp>1260277920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you thought the German swimmers looked like men during the 80's and 90's just wait till this kicks for human use.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you thought the German swimmers looked like men during the 80 's and 90 's just wait till this kicks for human use .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you thought the German swimmers looked like men during the 80's and 90's just wait till this kicks for human use.
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375294</id>
	<title>Re:Skeptical about significant increase Caloric Ne</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259576700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I always read that you need to eat ~3500 calories to gain a pound of fat. You're saying that most Americans gain 3 pounds of fat every week. One of these two statements must be ridiculous. Is it yours?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I always read that you need to eat ~ 3500 calories to gain a pound of fat .
You 're saying that most Americans gain 3 pounds of fat every week .
One of these two statements must be ridiculous .
Is it yours ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always read that you need to eat ~3500 calories to gain a pound of fat.
You're saying that most Americans gain 3 pounds of fat every week.
One of these two statements must be ridiculous.
Is it yours?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373902</id>
	<title>Re:I'll wait...</title>
	<author>tychver</author>
	<datestamp>1260290820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You don't need them. Second result for googling myostatin and bone: <a href="http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&amp;cpsidt=17589563" title="inist.fr" rel="nofollow">http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&amp;cpsidt=17589563</a> [inist.fr]

Even artificial increases in muscle strength are almost always accompanied by increases in bone density and joint strength. Your body isn't stupid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't need them .
Second result for googling myostatin and bone : http : //cat.inist.fr/ ? aModele = afficheN&amp;cpsidt = 17589563 [ inist.fr ] Even artificial increases in muscle strength are almost always accompanied by increases in bone density and joint strength .
Your body is n't stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't need them.
Second result for googling myostatin and bone: http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&amp;cpsidt=17589563 [inist.fr]

Even artificial increases in muscle strength are almost always accompanied by increases in bone density and joint strength.
Your body isn't stupid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30379884</id>
	<title>syntax of super</title>
	<author>epine</author>
	<datestamp>1259613180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the poorly studied naked hive primate, there is newly discovered taunt syntax pertaining to social dominance.  The call "super" refers to illicit advantage in the race to kick the crap out of the nearest naked hive primate one rung below your own, and the call "loser" means "the simpering dupe didn't even call my testosterone fueled check raise".</p><p>In other news, the former mode of mock combat know as an "arm wrestle" now typically ends in shoulder dislocations, or worse.  Status hierarchy persists unchanged, but taunting escalates as 200 pound weaklings hiding behind their mother's skirts look more pathetic than ever.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the poorly studied naked hive primate , there is newly discovered taunt syntax pertaining to social dominance .
The call " super " refers to illicit advantage in the race to kick the crap out of the nearest naked hive primate one rung below your own , and the call " loser " means " the simpering dupe did n't even call my testosterone fueled check raise " .In other news , the former mode of mock combat know as an " arm wrestle " now typically ends in shoulder dislocations , or worse .
Status hierarchy persists unchanged , but taunting escalates as 200 pound weaklings hiding behind their mother 's skirts look more pathetic than ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the poorly studied naked hive primate, there is newly discovered taunt syntax pertaining to social dominance.
The call "super" refers to illicit advantage in the race to kick the crap out of the nearest naked hive primate one rung below your own, and the call "loser" means "the simpering dupe didn't even call my testosterone fueled check raise".In other news, the former mode of mock combat know as an "arm wrestle" now typically ends in shoulder dislocations, or worse.
Status hierarchy persists unchanged, but taunting escalates as 200 pound weaklings hiding behind their mother's skirts look more pathetic than ever.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373364</id>
	<title>Major Points in Article</title>
	<author>NeverWorker1</author>
	<datestamp>1260285120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here's an executive summary as it seems few people read the article before posting:<br>
1. Gene therapy increases muscle development<br>
2. It is speculated that this will decrease life span because lung capacity is not increased to match the heightened oxygen requirements.<br>
3. As such it will probably not be commercially available.<br>
4. It will be used mainly to treat kids with MD and old people with degenerative muscle disorder (read: people who would die without it).<br>
5. It also has use in the livestock industry as the animals are not only super-meaty but also super-lean.<br>
6. Whether or not the military will use it to make super soldiers ala Fallout even though it might kill them early depends on your particular political leanings.<br>
<br>
I hope this is helpful.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's an executive summary as it seems few people read the article before posting : 1 .
Gene therapy increases muscle development 2 .
It is speculated that this will decrease life span because lung capacity is not increased to match the heightened oxygen requirements .
3. As such it will probably not be commercially available .
4. It will be used mainly to treat kids with MD and old people with degenerative muscle disorder ( read : people who would die without it ) .
5. It also has use in the livestock industry as the animals are not only super-meaty but also super-lean .
6. Whether or not the military will use it to make super soldiers ala Fallout even though it might kill them early depends on your particular political leanings .
I hope this is helpful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's an executive summary as it seems few people read the article before posting:
1.
Gene therapy increases muscle development
2.
It is speculated that this will decrease life span because lung capacity is not increased to match the heightened oxygen requirements.
3. As such it will probably not be commercially available.
4. It will be used mainly to treat kids with MD and old people with degenerative muscle disorder (read: people who would die without it).
5. It also has use in the livestock industry as the animals are not only super-meaty but also super-lean.
6. Whether or not the military will use it to make super soldiers ala Fallout even though it might kill them early depends on your particular political leanings.
I hope this is helpful.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374628</id>
	<title>I hope it never becomes available to normal people</title>
	<author>NoPantsJim</author>
	<datestamp>1260300540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a prescription version for people with a legitimate medical need. I would just hate to see it sold over the counter.
<br> <br>
I'm probably going to get modded flamebait for this one, but here goes...
<br> <br>
I work hard to keep my physique. I lift heavy daily. I choose what I eat very carefully, and I don't give in when I crave crappy food. I keep my beer intake to a minimum. I have earned the right to look the way I do.
<br> <br>
Far, far too many people in this country just want something for nothing. They want the instant fix without any hard work, and this isn't limited to physical fitness. The idea that someone could pop a pill and suddenly look like a dedicated weight lifter makes me angry. It's like those damn diet pills you see everywhere. When the day finally comes that a diet pill really does work, I'll be furious.
<br> <br>
Maybe I'm being too critical, but my opinion boils down to this: If you work hard at something, you deserve to reap the benefits. If you do not work hard at something, you deserve nothing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't get me wrong , I 'd love to see a prescription version for people with a legitimate medical need .
I would just hate to see it sold over the counter .
I 'm probably going to get modded flamebait for this one , but here goes.. . I work hard to keep my physique .
I lift heavy daily .
I choose what I eat very carefully , and I do n't give in when I crave crappy food .
I keep my beer intake to a minimum .
I have earned the right to look the way I do .
Far , far too many people in this country just want something for nothing .
They want the instant fix without any hard work , and this is n't limited to physical fitness .
The idea that someone could pop a pill and suddenly look like a dedicated weight lifter makes me angry .
It 's like those damn diet pills you see everywhere .
When the day finally comes that a diet pill really does work , I 'll be furious .
Maybe I 'm being too critical , but my opinion boils down to this : If you work hard at something , you deserve to reap the benefits .
If you do not work hard at something , you deserve nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a prescription version for people with a legitimate medical need.
I would just hate to see it sold over the counter.
I'm probably going to get modded flamebait for this one, but here goes...
 
I work hard to keep my physique.
I lift heavy daily.
I choose what I eat very carefully, and I don't give in when I crave crappy food.
I keep my beer intake to a minimum.
I have earned the right to look the way I do.
Far, far too many people in this country just want something for nothing.
They want the instant fix without any hard work, and this isn't limited to physical fitness.
The idea that someone could pop a pill and suddenly look like a dedicated weight lifter makes me angry.
It's like those damn diet pills you see everywhere.
When the day finally comes that a diet pill really does work, I'll be furious.
Maybe I'm being too critical, but my opinion boils down to this: If you work hard at something, you deserve to reap the benefits.
If you do not work hard at something, you deserve nothing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373720</id>
	<title>Re:consequences</title>
	<author>Ozlanthos</author>
	<datestamp>1260288720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can also foresee mental issues arising for body-builders taking this substance. As they have lower fat percentages (as low as 3\% in some cases) their brains would most likely starve in some way if muscle could no longer be converted to fat.
<br>
<br>
-Oz</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can also foresee mental issues arising for body-builders taking this substance .
As they have lower fat percentages ( as low as 3 \ % in some cases ) their brains would most likely starve in some way if muscle could no longer be converted to fat .
-Oz</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can also foresee mental issues arising for body-builders taking this substance.
As they have lower fat percentages (as low as 3\% in some cases) their brains would most likely starve in some way if muscle could no longer be converted to fat.
-Oz</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372528</id>
	<title>Re:Um, there are not-unforseen problems</title>
	<author>FooAtWFU</author>
	<datestamp>1260278400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The food supplies of those who are likely to consume this drug aren't really strongly related to those of the world's starving, for better or worse. At least not at the moment.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The food supplies of those who are likely to consume this drug are n't really strongly related to those of the world 's starving , for better or worse .
At least not at the moment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The food supplies of those who are likely to consume this drug aren't really strongly related to those of the world's starving, for better or worse.
At least not at the moment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375486</id>
	<title>HULK SMASH!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259579700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>HULK SMASH!</p><p>Really.</p><p>Now this is going to be good for people with wasting disorders and the like, but you know it's going to be used badly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>HULK SMASH ! Really.Now this is going to be good for people with wasting disorders and the like , but you know it 's going to be used badly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HULK SMASH!Really.Now this is going to be good for people with wasting disorders and the like, but you know it's going to be used badly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374082</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>compro01</author>
	<datestamp>1260292980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We've had those for over a century just through old fashioned selective breeding.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian\_Blue" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian Blue</a> [wikipedia.org]<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmontese\_(cattle)" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmontese (cattle)</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've had those for over a century just through old fashioned selective breeding.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian Blue [ wikipedia.org ] http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmontese ( cattle ) [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've had those for over a century just through old fashioned selective breeding.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian Blue [wikipedia.org]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmontese (cattle) [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374012</id>
	<title>Re:Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>Hoi Polloi</author>
	<datestamp>1260291900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well at least all those spams I get saying "Make you stronger in bed!" may actually be true for once.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well at least all those spams I get saying " Make you stronger in bed !
" may actually be true for once .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well at least all those spams I get saying "Make you stronger in bed!
" may actually be true for once.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372594</id>
	<title>Re:Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260278760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, no, this will never happen. The scientists noted that one of the side effects of the treatment was green skin.  I think we know where that leads.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , no , this will never happen .
The scientists noted that one of the side effects of the treatment was green skin .
I think we know where that leads .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, no, this will never happen.
The scientists noted that one of the side effects of the treatment was green skin.
I think we know where that leads.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372270</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372456</id>
	<title>Um, there are not-unforseen problems</title>
	<author>Jack9</author>
	<datestamp>1260278040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We have a world food distribution/shortage problem as it is. Imagine SUPER STRONG STARVING Humans.</p><p><a href="http://www.ashtreehill.com/the-hungry.html" title="ashtreehill.com">http://www.ashtreehill.com/the-hungry.html</a> [ashtreehill.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We have a world food distribution/shortage problem as it is .
Imagine SUPER STRONG STARVING Humans.http : //www.ashtreehill.com/the-hungry.html [ ashtreehill.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have a world food distribution/shortage problem as it is.
Imagine SUPER STRONG STARVING Humans.http://www.ashtreehill.com/the-hungry.html [ashtreehill.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30380360</id>
	<title>Re:I remember super-baby... BAD idea</title>
	<author>StikyPad</author>
	<datestamp>1259573040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The body is the way it is for good reasons.</i></p><p>Not really...  The body is the way it is because no alternative genetic mutations occurred which were permitted to thrive through selective pressures.  Success doesn't imply perfection, or even an ideal design; just that something was good enough to survive.  Certainly seeing outside of the so-called "visible range" of light would be beneficial, but we haven't biologically evolved with that ability.  It doesn't mean that there's necessarily a good reason we can't see IR.  Maybe there is, maybe there isn't.</p><p>As for myostatin "deficiency", maybe the trait existed before, and all the weaker people were forced to develop their intelligence and gang up on the stronger people, wiping them out.  Maybe food supply was an issue.  Maybe there was a natural disaster that killed all the people in a specific region; people who had an inherent lack of myostatin.</p><p>I'm not implying that this modification is either beneficial or not, just that there's no guarantee that things are as they are for any *good* reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The body is the way it is for good reasons.Not really... The body is the way it is because no alternative genetic mutations occurred which were permitted to thrive through selective pressures .
Success does n't imply perfection , or even an ideal design ; just that something was good enough to survive .
Certainly seeing outside of the so-called " visible range " of light would be beneficial , but we have n't biologically evolved with that ability .
It does n't mean that there 's necessarily a good reason we ca n't see IR .
Maybe there is , maybe there is n't.As for myostatin " deficiency " , maybe the trait existed before , and all the weaker people were forced to develop their intelligence and gang up on the stronger people , wiping them out .
Maybe food supply was an issue .
Maybe there was a natural disaster that killed all the people in a specific region ; people who had an inherent lack of myostatin.I 'm not implying that this modification is either beneficial or not , just that there 's no guarantee that things are as they are for any * good * reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The body is the way it is for good reasons.Not really...  The body is the way it is because no alternative genetic mutations occurred which were permitted to thrive through selective pressures.
Success doesn't imply perfection, or even an ideal design; just that something was good enough to survive.
Certainly seeing outside of the so-called "visible range" of light would be beneficial, but we haven't biologically evolved with that ability.
It doesn't mean that there's necessarily a good reason we can't see IR.
Maybe there is, maybe there isn't.As for myostatin "deficiency", maybe the trait existed before, and all the weaker people were forced to develop their intelligence and gang up on the stronger people, wiping them out.
Maybe food supply was an issue.
Maybe there was a natural disaster that killed all the people in a specific region; people who had an inherent lack of myostatin.I'm not implying that this modification is either beneficial or not, just that there's no guarantee that things are as they are for any *good* reason.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373452</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30377810</id>
	<title>Re:Helpful for the Obese...</title>
	<author>plague3106</author>
	<datestamp>1259601660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And as the biggest loser shows, that problem is a myth, an excuse not to get off the couch and do something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And as the biggest loser shows , that problem is a myth , an excuse not to get off the couch and do something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And as the biggest loser shows, that problem is a myth, an excuse not to get off the couch and do something.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372448</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373398</id>
	<title>Itchy &amp; Scratchy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260285360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I saw a documentary about this.   I think it was called: "Nazi Supermen Are Our Superiors".</htmltext>
<tokenext>I saw a documentary about this .
I think it was called : " Nazi Supermen Are Our Superiors " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I saw a documentary about this.
I think it was called: "Nazi Supermen Are Our Superiors".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374238</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Zerth</author>
	<datestamp>1260295320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So... What's the effective dose again?</p><p>On the other hand, Biotang?  Could they have chosen a less-legit sounding name?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So... What 's the effective dose again ? On the other hand , Biotang ?
Could they have chosen a less-legit sounding name ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So... What's the effective dose again?On the other hand, Biotang?
Could they have chosen a less-legit sounding name?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373236</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373764</id>
	<title>Re:No.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260289140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder if they'll mandate that people who naturally lack the gene be required to take some kind of gene therapy to bring their muscle mass back down to typical levels if they ever want to be in the Olympics or something.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if they 'll mandate that people who naturally lack the gene be required to take some kind of gene therapy to bring their muscle mass back down to typical levels if they ever want to be in the Olympics or something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if they'll mandate that people who naturally lack the gene be required to take some kind of gene therapy to bring their muscle mass back down to typical levels if they ever want to be in the Olympics or something.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372394</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373550</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260286920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Pretty soon, you won't get laid without it</p></div></blockquote><p>
Believe it or not, some women actually are interested in other qualities than muscular development.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty soon , you wo n't get laid without it Believe it or not , some women actually are interested in other qualities than muscular development .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty soon, you won't get laid without it
Believe it or not, some women actually are interested in other qualities than muscular development.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373588</id>
	<title>Re:consequences</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260287340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, I am not a biologist, but I would imagine that, with vastly increased metabolism, comes shorter lifespans, simply because everything in the body happens a bit quicker(or a lot quicker).  If your body does all of its tasks in a quicker fashion, cell mitosis and cell death will also happen quicker.  Granted, it may not be a lot, but I would definately watch to see how long this kid lives, and how fast he goes through the various phases of life.  Hopefully he doesn't turn into a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack\_(film)" title="wikipedia.org">Jack</a> [wikipedia.org].
<br> <br>
I may be completely wrong, but I would definitely want to see the long term effects of something like this before I start injecting myself with <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DGFuHC75aY&amp;feature=related" title="youtube.com">water from the wrong cup</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I am not a biologist , but I would imagine that , with vastly increased metabolism , comes shorter lifespans , simply because everything in the body happens a bit quicker ( or a lot quicker ) .
If your body does all of its tasks in a quicker fashion , cell mitosis and cell death will also happen quicker .
Granted , it may not be a lot , but I would definately watch to see how long this kid lives , and how fast he goes through the various phases of life .
Hopefully he does n't turn into a Jack [ wikipedia.org ] .
I may be completely wrong , but I would definitely want to see the long term effects of something like this before I start injecting myself with water from the wrong cup [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I am not a biologist, but I would imagine that, with vastly increased metabolism, comes shorter lifespans, simply because everything in the body happens a bit quicker(or a lot quicker).
If your body does all of its tasks in a quicker fashion, cell mitosis and cell death will also happen quicker.
Granted, it may not be a lot, but I would definately watch to see how long this kid lives, and how fast he goes through the various phases of life.
Hopefully he doesn't turn into a Jack [wikipedia.org].
I may be completely wrong, but I would definitely want to see the long term effects of something like this before I start injecting myself with water from the wrong cup [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372560</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374962</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1259614500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I love her....</p></div></blockquote><p>Me too.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I love her....Me too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love her....Me too.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373048</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375636</id>
	<title>You won't</title>
	<author>ILongForDarkness</author>
	<datestamp>1259582220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>like me when I'm angry. AARRGHH.</htmltext>
<tokenext>like me when I 'm angry .
AARRGHH .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>like me when I'm angry.
AARRGHH.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375702</id>
	<title>Fatkins, anyone?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://craphound.com/makers/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //craphound.com/makers/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://craphound.com/makers/</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374414</id>
	<title>Re:consequences</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260297720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In pigs there's a gene called the halothane gene that greatly increases the muscle mass (meat) on the animal but at the same time it also causes the pig to be far, far more susceptible to stress. I've seen animals with the gene lay down breathing heavily and never really recover from the "stress" of simply moving them from pen to pen.<br>That side effect of breeding in an extra muscle mass gene into pigs was pretty darn obvious but I think it highlights well the potential for there to be unanticipated side effects from switching on a gene (or emphasising it in my pigs example) that isn't normally so.<br>Not saying it can't be done, I'm sure the people working on it are far smarter than I - but there stands to be an awful lot of research into potential side effects before it can be proven safe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In pigs there 's a gene called the halothane gene that greatly increases the muscle mass ( meat ) on the animal but at the same time it also causes the pig to be far , far more susceptible to stress .
I 've seen animals with the gene lay down breathing heavily and never really recover from the " stress " of simply moving them from pen to pen.That side effect of breeding in an extra muscle mass gene into pigs was pretty darn obvious but I think it highlights well the potential for there to be unanticipated side effects from switching on a gene ( or emphasising it in my pigs example ) that is n't normally so.Not saying it ca n't be done , I 'm sure the people working on it are far smarter than I - but there stands to be an awful lot of research into potential side effects before it can be proven safe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In pigs there's a gene called the halothane gene that greatly increases the muscle mass (meat) on the animal but at the same time it also causes the pig to be far, far more susceptible to stress.
I've seen animals with the gene lay down breathing heavily and never really recover from the "stress" of simply moving them from pen to pen.That side effect of breeding in an extra muscle mass gene into pigs was pretty darn obvious but I think it highlights well the potential for there to be unanticipated side effects from switching on a gene (or emphasising it in my pigs example) that isn't normally so.Not saying it can't be done, I'm sure the people working on it are far smarter than I - but there stands to be an awful lot of research into potential side effects before it can be proven safe.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374792</id>
	<title>Re:Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>mikael\_j</author>
	<datestamp>1259611380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Joking aside, this will most likely not be widely available to "regular people" even if it proves to be practically harmless, if it does end up available to healthy people it will be as a $2,000 per shot "treatment" aimed at the plastic surgery crowd.</p><p>This seems to be the faith of every "wonder drug" out there, can't have regular people using something like this cheaply and easily (as in, if it ends up being inexpensive it will instead require three doctors to sign off on you have muscle dystrophy or something like that, if it ends up being expensive then it will be more readily available but only to those who have no problem blowing ten grand on it).</p><p>/Mikael</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Joking aside , this will most likely not be widely available to " regular people " even if it proves to be practically harmless , if it does end up available to healthy people it will be as a $ 2,000 per shot " treatment " aimed at the plastic surgery crowd.This seems to be the faith of every " wonder drug " out there , ca n't have regular people using something like this cheaply and easily ( as in , if it ends up being inexpensive it will instead require three doctors to sign off on you have muscle dystrophy or something like that , if it ends up being expensive then it will be more readily available but only to those who have no problem blowing ten grand on it ) ./Mikael</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Joking aside, this will most likely not be widely available to "regular people" even if it proves to be practically harmless, if it does end up available to healthy people it will be as a $2,000 per shot "treatment" aimed at the plastic surgery crowd.This seems to be the faith of every "wonder drug" out there, can't have regular people using something like this cheaply and easily (as in, if it ends up being inexpensive it will instead require three doctors to sign off on you have muscle dystrophy or something like that, if it ends up being expensive then it will be more readily available but only to those who have no problem blowing ten grand on it)./Mikael</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372270</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373598</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260287400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So what?  We'll have nations populated by beached whales with super-human strength?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So what ?
We 'll have nations populated by beached whales with super-human strength ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what?
We'll have nations populated by beached whales with super-human strength?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372444</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375592</id>
	<title>Re:I'll wait...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When pro cyclists began taking steroids the cogniscenti (sp?) could spot the users in the peloton by the subsequent joint problems later in the season; if just the musculature is improved, the joints can't take the extra pressure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When pro cyclists began taking steroids the cogniscenti ( sp ?
) could spot the users in the peloton by the subsequent joint problems later in the season ; if just the musculature is improved , the joints ca n't take the extra pressure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When pro cyclists began taking steroids the cogniscenti (sp?
) could spot the users in the peloton by the subsequent joint problems later in the season; if just the musculature is improved, the joints can't take the extra pressure.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373150</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373116</id>
	<title>The Super Soldier Serum at last?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260283080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, who's gonna be the new Captain America?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , who 's gon na be the new Captain America ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, who's gonna be the new Captain America?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373240</id>
	<title>Fake!!!</title>
	<author>hamburgler007</author>
	<datestamp>1260284040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The photo in tfa is clearly a fake. The dumbbell is photoshopped in.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The photo in tfa is clearly a fake .
The dumbbell is photoshopped in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The photo in tfa is clearly a fake.
The dumbbell is photoshopped in.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372498</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>digitalunity</author>
	<datestamp>1260278220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Muscle burns more energy than fat, both at rest and during physical activity.</p><p>An effective oral myostatic blocker would enable a lot of people to reduce their body fat levels with minimal lifestyle change.</p><p>For those who are severely obese, this would be a godsend since for many of them they weigh so much and have such small muscle mass that physical activity can be dangerous.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Muscle burns more energy than fat , both at rest and during physical activity.An effective oral myostatic blocker would enable a lot of people to reduce their body fat levels with minimal lifestyle change.For those who are severely obese , this would be a godsend since for many of them they weigh so much and have such small muscle mass that physical activity can be dangerous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Muscle burns more energy than fat, both at rest and during physical activity.An effective oral myostatic blocker would enable a lot of people to reduce their body fat levels with minimal lifestyle change.For those who are severely obese, this would be a godsend since for many of them they weigh so much and have such small muscle mass that physical activity can be dangerous.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372372</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30380322</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1259572800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because the government does not want smarted people, they are too tough to control and most don't make for good consumers...where would the economy be without all the stupid people buying very shiny things!!!<br>Hell, making them smarter would mean they could all plan on twitter to force a boycott of oil companies for 1 month, and make the price of oil go way down, almost to the point of bankruptcy<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... see even though the richest control the oil, it is the demand that controls the rich...without it, they are penniless.</p><p>No government wants EVERYBODY to be smart, they want a few good individuals to give hope to the rest of them that you can become one if you really try hard enough...bla,bla,bla.</p><p>Sorry for my cynical view of our government, but I saw through Bush all those years and yet people still reelected him, or he outsmarted everybody and rigged the election, and no one wanted to force a recount. Not enough people really try anymore, laziness or lack of intelligence.</p><p>Both are what you need for a government to have a easily maintainable society!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because the government does not want smarted people , they are too tough to control and most do n't make for good consumers...where would the economy be without all the stupid people buying very shiny things ! !
! Hell , making them smarter would mean they could all plan on twitter to force a boycott of oil companies for 1 month , and make the price of oil go way down , almost to the point of bankruptcy .... see even though the richest control the oil , it is the demand that controls the rich...without it , they are penniless.No government wants EVERYBODY to be smart , they want a few good individuals to give hope to the rest of them that you can become one if you really try hard enough...bla,bla,bla.Sorry for my cynical view of our government , but I saw through Bush all those years and yet people still reelected him , or he outsmarted everybody and rigged the election , and no one wanted to force a recount .
Not enough people really try anymore , laziness or lack of intelligence.Both are what you need for a government to have a easily maintainable society ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because the government does not want smarted people, they are too tough to control and most don't make for good consumers...where would the economy be without all the stupid people buying very shiny things!!
!Hell, making them smarter would mean they could all plan on twitter to force a boycott of oil companies for 1 month, and make the price of oil go way down, almost to the point of bankruptcy .... see even though the richest control the oil, it is the demand that controls the rich...without it, they are penniless.No government wants EVERYBODY to be smart, they want a few good individuals to give hope to the rest of them that you can become one if you really try hard enough...bla,bla,bla.Sorry for my cynical view of our government, but I saw through Bush all those years and yet people still reelected him, or he outsmarted everybody and rigged the election, and no one wanted to force a recount.
Not enough people really try anymore, laziness or lack of intelligence.Both are what you need for a government to have a easily maintainable society!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30377192</id>
	<title>Re:consequences</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259598000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Seems like there is probably a reason we have myostatin and if you disable it, other health problems may result.  We're just don't know what they are yet.</p></div><p>Actually, while we do not know what health problems arise in humans, we do know of multiple health problems which arise in <i>other</i> mammals:</p><ul><li> <a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?\_ob=ArticleURL&amp;\_udi=B7XNX-4NX2W1C-3&amp;\_user=10&amp;\_rdoc=1&amp;\_fmt=&amp;\_orig=search&amp;\_sort=d&amp;\_docanchor=&amp;view=c&amp;\_searchStrId=1129045548&amp;\_rerunOrigin=google&amp;\_acct=C000050221&amp;\_version=1&amp;\_urlVersion=0&amp;\_userid=10&amp;md5=7c6f338c09d052a7154ec84c8c581f8f" title="sciencedirect.com" rel="nofollow">Selenium (Se) deficiency.</a> [sciencedirect.com] </li><li> <a href="http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/cattle/belgianblue/index.htm" title="okstate.edu" rel="nofollow">Birthing problems; sometimes resulting in the need for caesarean section.</a> [okstate.edu] </li><li> <a href="http://genome.cshlp.org/content/7/9/910.full" title="cshlp.org" rel="nofollow">Reduction in stress tolerance.</a> [cshlp.org] </li><li> <a href="http://jas.fass.org/cgi/reprint/79/5/1162.pdf" title="fass.org" rel="nofollow">Very low fat concentrations; can result in health problems due to insufficient fat soluble nutrient/vitamin uptake.</a> [fass.org] </li><li> <a href="http://bioethics.agrocampus-ouest.eu/pdf2009/Bioethic\_aspects\_of\_genetic\_selection\_of\_animals\_U-Korzecka.pdf" title="agrocampus-ouest.eu" rel="nofollow">Weak bones.</a> [agrocampus-ouest.eu] </li></ul></div>
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<tokenext>Seems like there is probably a reason we have myostatin and if you disable it , other health problems may result .
We 're just do n't know what they are yet.Actually , while we do not know what health problems arise in humans , we do know of multiple health problems which arise in other mammals : Selenium ( Se ) deficiency .
[ sciencedirect.com ] Birthing problems ; sometimes resulting in the need for caesarean section .
[ okstate.edu ] Reduction in stress tolerance .
[ cshlp.org ] Very low fat concentrations ; can result in health problems due to insufficient fat soluble nutrient/vitamin uptake .
[ fass.org ] Weak bones .
[ agrocampus-ouest.eu ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like there is probably a reason we have myostatin and if you disable it, other health problems may result.
We're just don't know what they are yet.Actually, while we do not know what health problems arise in humans, we do know of multiple health problems which arise in other mammals: Selenium (Se) deficiency.
[sciencedirect.com]  Birthing problems; sometimes resulting in the need for caesarean section.
[okstate.edu]  Reduction in stress tolerance.
[cshlp.org]  Very low fat concentrations; can result in health problems due to insufficient fat soluble nutrient/vitamin uptake.
[fass.org]  Weak bones.
[agrocampus-ouest.eu] 
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373698</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Ozlanthos</author>
	<datestamp>1260288480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If anything I'd expect gym attendance to increase dramatically. You can pop all the pills you want but the body is a fat-hording machine. If you aren't doing "something" to burn extra calories, they are most likely going to congregate for a consolidation meeting at your ass!
<br>
<br>
-Oz</htmltext>
<tokenext>If anything I 'd expect gym attendance to increase dramatically .
You can pop all the pills you want but the body is a fat-hording machine .
If you are n't doing " something " to burn extra calories , they are most likely going to congregate for a consolidation meeting at your ass !
-Oz</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If anything I'd expect gym attendance to increase dramatically.
You can pop all the pills you want but the body is a fat-hording machine.
If you aren't doing "something" to burn extra calories, they are most likely going to congregate for a consolidation meeting at your ass!
-Oz</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30379612</id>
	<title>Re:Skeptical about significant increase Caloric Ne</title>
	<author>npsimons</author>
	<datestamp>1259611380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I think a more interesting question is what do you do if this is readily available, cheap and easy to use? Would you do it? What if you are an active amateur cyclist working your way up the local ranks?</p></div></blockquote><p>Speaking as someone who has dabbled (albeit briefly) in sport cycling, and who climbs a bit, I have to say "no".  What you typically want is more efficient muscle: muscle that can do the same amount of work for less mass.  You don't get this by taking 'roids.  Most cyclists (and mountaineers) are always striving for lighter equipment, going so far as comparing ounce by ounce.  So if you could drop a pound (a *huge* amount in cycling or mountaineering) of body weight, whether it be fat or unused/useless muscle, you would do it to stay competitive.  There's a reason the stunt double for Stallone in "Cliffhanger" bulked up: it wasn't to be a better climber (he was already world class), it was to look like Stallone.  Also, for endurance sports, any weight you can shave off is less weight you (and your skeletal system) have to carry for 25, 50, or 100 miles.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I think a more interesting question is what do you do if this is readily available , cheap and easy to use ?
Would you do it ?
What if you are an active amateur cyclist working your way up the local ranks ? Speaking as someone who has dabbled ( albeit briefly ) in sport cycling , and who climbs a bit , I have to say " no " .
What you typically want is more efficient muscle : muscle that can do the same amount of work for less mass .
You do n't get this by taking 'roids .
Most cyclists ( and mountaineers ) are always striving for lighter equipment , going so far as comparing ounce by ounce .
So if you could drop a pound ( a * huge * amount in cycling or mountaineering ) of body weight , whether it be fat or unused/useless muscle , you would do it to stay competitive .
There 's a reason the stunt double for Stallone in " Cliffhanger " bulked up : it was n't to be a better climber ( he was already world class ) , it was to look like Stallone .
Also , for endurance sports , any weight you can shave off is less weight you ( and your skeletal system ) have to carry for 25 , 50 , or 100 miles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think a more interesting question is what do you do if this is readily available, cheap and easy to use?
Would you do it?
What if you are an active amateur cyclist working your way up the local ranks?Speaking as someone who has dabbled (albeit briefly) in sport cycling, and who climbs a bit, I have to say "no".
What you typically want is more efficient muscle: muscle that can do the same amount of work for less mass.
You don't get this by taking 'roids.
Most cyclists (and mountaineers) are always striving for lighter equipment, going so far as comparing ounce by ounce.
So if you could drop a pound (a *huge* amount in cycling or mountaineering) of body weight, whether it be fat or unused/useless muscle, you would do it to stay competitive.
There's a reason the stunt double for Stallone in "Cliffhanger" bulked up: it wasn't to be a better climber (he was already world class), it was to look like Stallone.
Also, for endurance sports, any weight you can shave off is less weight you (and your skeletal system) have to carry for 25, 50, or 100 miles.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373048</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260282360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And if this promotes muscle growth where it is used most, most of us Slashdotters will end up with just one Superhuman Arm.</p><p>"Hello, I am the Mega-Baiter!!"</p><p>Disclaimer: I am married, so my arms would remain the same, but my wife would (through associated absorption) develop some massive jaw and tongue muscles......</p><p>I love her....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And if this promotes muscle growth where it is used most , most of us Slashdotters will end up with just one Superhuman Arm .
" Hello , I am the Mega-Baiter ! !
" Disclaimer : I am married , so my arms would remain the same , but my wife would ( through associated absorption ) develop some massive jaw and tongue muscles......I love her... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if this promotes muscle growth where it is used most, most of us Slashdotters will end up with just one Superhuman Arm.
"Hello, I am the Mega-Baiter!!
"Disclaimer: I am married, so my arms would remain the same, but my wife would (through associated absorption) develop some massive jaw and tongue muscles......I love her....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372792</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1260280440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It would also be a god send to us 40 something with a pot belly thatw ant to look like they did in high school without the pesky being active all the time part.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would also be a god send to us 40 something with a pot belly thatw ant to look like they did in high school without the pesky being active all the time part .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would also be a god send to us 40 something with a pot belly thatw ant to look like they did in high school without the pesky being active all the time part.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374050</id>
	<title>Re:Of intense interest.</title>
	<author>nanospook</author>
	<datestamp>1260292500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not knowing the details, my best friend used to have such serious back pain due to a dancing injury that she couldn't life her arms. She went to an acupuncturist and within a month she was recovering. Additionally she takes chickern colligen 4x a day as a supplement to help keep the padding in the vertebrae (she didnt have any left due to the injury). That was recent and all of a sudden her back pain just dropped off. Just ideas. hope they help..</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not knowing the details , my best friend used to have such serious back pain due to a dancing injury that she could n't life her arms .
She went to an acupuncturist and within a month she was recovering .
Additionally she takes chickern colligen 4x a day as a supplement to help keep the padding in the vertebrae ( she didnt have any left due to the injury ) .
That was recent and all of a sudden her back pain just dropped off .
Just ideas .
hope they help. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not knowing the details, my best friend used to have such serious back pain due to a dancing injury that she couldn't life her arms.
She went to an acupuncturist and within a month she was recovering.
Additionally she takes chickern colligen 4x a day as a supplement to help keep the padding in the vertebrae (she didnt have any left due to the injury).
That was recent and all of a sudden her back pain just dropped off.
Just ideas.
hope they help..</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374344</id>
	<title>Re:Fun at the Olympics in 20 years.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260296760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you mean East German during the 70s and 80s.</p><p>But in the 90s and later? <a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=Franziska\%20van\%20Almsick&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;rls=org.gentoo:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;sa=N&amp;hl=en&amp;tab=wi" title="google.com">Hmm, I don&rsquo;t think she looks like a man at all, does she?</a> [google.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you mean East German during the 70s and 80s.But in the 90s and later ?
Hmm , I don    t think she looks like a man at all , does she ?
[ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you mean East German during the 70s and 80s.But in the 90s and later?
Hmm, I don’t think she looks like a man at all, does she?
[google.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372270</id>
	<title>Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260276960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Is this the prelude to a super-strength gene therapy for all of us?</p> </div><p>No, the clinical trials will begin but one of the test subjects will realize that they are now stronger than his fellow man and the only thing keeping him a cut above the rest is the drug.  So he (or she, both sexes are equally evil) will taint the other subjects' follistatin with cyanide, killing them all.  Then the super villain transformation into The Sinister Strength will be complete and they will emerge from the carnage at the clinic to hoard all the remaining follistatin.  We have only one hope, that our hero Liam Hoekstra arrives on the scene early enough to put an end to The Sinister Strength<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... refresh Slashdot next week to find out.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this the prelude to a super-strength gene therapy for all of us ?
No , the clinical trials will begin but one of the test subjects will realize that they are now stronger than his fellow man and the only thing keeping him a cut above the rest is the drug .
So he ( or she , both sexes are equally evil ) will taint the other subjects ' follistatin with cyanide , killing them all .
Then the super villain transformation into The Sinister Strength will be complete and they will emerge from the carnage at the clinic to hoard all the remaining follistatin .
We have only one hope , that our hero Liam Hoekstra arrives on the scene early enough to put an end to The Sinister Strength ... refresh Slashdot next week to find out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this the prelude to a super-strength gene therapy for all of us?
No, the clinical trials will begin but one of the test subjects will realize that they are now stronger than his fellow man and the only thing keeping him a cut above the rest is the drug.
So he (or she, both sexes are equally evil) will taint the other subjects' follistatin with cyanide, killing them all.
Then the super villain transformation into The Sinister Strength will be complete and they will emerge from the carnage at the clinic to hoard all the remaining follistatin.
We have only one hope, that our hero Liam Hoekstra arrives on the scene early enough to put an end to The Sinister Strength ... refresh Slashdot next week to find out.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375556</id>
	<title>Re:Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259580900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All I need to say is KAHN!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All I need to say is KAHN !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All I need to say is KAHN!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374368</id>
	<title>Re:Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1260297000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>one of the side effects of the treatment was green skin. I think we know where that leads.</p></div><p>Green skin with intelligence, then green skin with lost intelligence, then gray skin with intelligence, then green when extra angry with reduced intelligence again, then green with genius intelligence, eventually super-angry at your old friends who launched you into space, then fighting your red skinned double?  Please pardon if I got a few steps out of order.</p></div>
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<tokenext>one of the side effects of the treatment was green skin .
I think we know where that leads.Green skin with intelligence , then green skin with lost intelligence , then gray skin with intelligence , then green when extra angry with reduced intelligence again , then green with genius intelligence , eventually super-angry at your old friends who launched you into space , then fighting your red skinned double ?
Please pardon if I got a few steps out of order .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>one of the side effects of the treatment was green skin.
I think we know where that leads.Green skin with intelligence, then green skin with lost intelligence, then gray skin with intelligence, then green when extra angry with reduced intelligence again, then green with genius intelligence, eventually super-angry at your old friends who launched you into space, then fighting your red skinned double?
Please pardon if I got a few steps out of order.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372604</id>
	<title>Re:Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>Ryvar</author>
	<datestamp>1260278880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I refresh Slashdot next week the only thing I'm going to see is a dupe of this story.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I refresh Slashdot next week the only thing I 'm going to see is a dupe of this story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I refresh Slashdot next week the only thing I'm going to see is a dupe of this story.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374866</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Krneki</author>
	<datestamp>1259612580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No need to guess, from TFA:



"The National Children's Hospital interest in myostatin is not to create super strong children, but to help those children whose muscles have already atrophied. Muscular Dystrophy (MD) affects thousands of children in the US who slowly lose muscle and rarely survive into adulthood. Follistatin gene therapy could serve as a method to extend their lives or perhaps even reverse the symptoms of their conditions. Likewise, the eldery are susceptible to several diseases that lead to a loss of muscle strength and coordination. By blocking myostatin, we may all be able to live with the strength of our youth even as we age into our 80s."</p></div><p>Of course they say his. </p><p>

Think of the children is way better then, we will help body-builders cheat they way to the victory.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No need to guess , from TFA : " The National Children 's Hospital interest in myostatin is not to create super strong children , but to help those children whose muscles have already atrophied .
Muscular Dystrophy ( MD ) affects thousands of children in the US who slowly lose muscle and rarely survive into adulthood .
Follistatin gene therapy could serve as a method to extend their lives or perhaps even reverse the symptoms of their conditions .
Likewise , the eldery are susceptible to several diseases that lead to a loss of muscle strength and coordination .
By blocking myostatin , we may all be able to live with the strength of our youth even as we age into our 80s .
" Of course they say his .
Think of the children is way better then , we will help body-builders cheat they way to the victory .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No need to guess, from TFA:



"The National Children's Hospital interest in myostatin is not to create super strong children, but to help those children whose muscles have already atrophied.
Muscular Dystrophy (MD) affects thousands of children in the US who slowly lose muscle and rarely survive into adulthood.
Follistatin gene therapy could serve as a method to extend their lives or perhaps even reverse the symptoms of their conditions.
Likewise, the eldery are susceptible to several diseases that lead to a loss of muscle strength and coordination.
By blocking myostatin, we may all be able to live with the strength of our youth even as we age into our 80s.
"Of course they say his.
Think of the children is way better then, we will help body-builders cheat they way to the victory.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30382842</id>
	<title>Big muscles make life easier</title>
	<author>ChrisMaple</author>
	<datestamp>1259584920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Strength makes it easier to do things. Strength makes things possible that less strength makes impossible, slow, or difficult. Strength make things fun (bicycling up a long, steep hill) that are a burden otherwise. Strength provides a larger margin of safety for any number of activities. People with good musculature (other things being equal) live longer than feeble people.</p><p>Health is always fashionable. Large muscles are indicative of health, and only the extremely large muscles of top level body builders are unattractive to a substantial portion of the populace. This is not a faddish thing; people's preference in body types tends to last from many years to a lifetime.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Strength makes it easier to do things .
Strength makes things possible that less strength makes impossible , slow , or difficult .
Strength make things fun ( bicycling up a long , steep hill ) that are a burden otherwise .
Strength provides a larger margin of safety for any number of activities .
People with good musculature ( other things being equal ) live longer than feeble people.Health is always fashionable .
Large muscles are indicative of health , and only the extremely large muscles of top level body builders are unattractive to a substantial portion of the populace .
This is not a faddish thing ; people 's preference in body types tends to last from many years to a lifetime .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Strength makes it easier to do things.
Strength makes things possible that less strength makes impossible, slow, or difficult.
Strength make things fun (bicycling up a long, steep hill) that are a burden otherwise.
Strength provides a larger margin of safety for any number of activities.
People with good musculature (other things being equal) live longer than feeble people.Health is always fashionable.
Large muscles are indicative of health, and only the extremely large muscles of top level body builders are unattractive to a substantial portion of the populace.
This is not a faddish thing; people's preference in body types tends to last from many years to a lifetime.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30376082</id>
	<title>Re:Fun at the Olympics in 20 years.</title>
	<author>Ceriel Nosforit</author>
	<datestamp>1259589060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Am I the only one who has this fetish?</p><p>Maybe I should have rephrased that... Seriously though, many body-building women would probably love an alternative to beard growth. Maybe this could do away with some social stigmata.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one who has this fetish ? Maybe I should have rephrased that... Seriously though , many body-building women would probably love an alternative to beard growth .
Maybe this could do away with some social stigmata .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one who has this fetish?Maybe I should have rephrased that... Seriously though, many body-building women would probably love an alternative to beard growth.
Maybe this could do away with some social stigmata.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374478</id>
	<title>WADA?</title>
	<author>Keith J Duhaime</author>
	<datestamp>1260298800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is WADA looking at this yet?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is WADA looking at this yet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is WADA looking at this yet?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Now I'll never finish my fortress!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260301440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Darn Rhesus Macaques, always stealing my socks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Darn Rhesus Macaques , always stealing my socks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Darn Rhesus Macaques, always stealing my socks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375740</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Likewise, the eldery are susceptible to several diseases that lead to a loss of muscle strength and coordination. By blocking myostatin, we may all be able to live with the strength of our youth even as we age into our 80s."</p></div><p>Get off my lawn or I'll THROW you off!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Likewise , the eldery are susceptible to several diseases that lead to a loss of muscle strength and coordination .
By blocking myostatin , we may all be able to live with the strength of our youth even as we age into our 80s .
" Get off my lawn or I 'll THROW you off !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Likewise, the eldery are susceptible to several diseases that lead to a loss of muscle strength and coordination.
By blocking myostatin, we may all be able to live with the strength of our youth even as we age into our 80s.
"Get off my lawn or I'll THROW you off!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373236</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>PitaBred</author>
	<datestamp>1260284040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Only poor people would be weak any more... especially considering that 20 micrograms cost $200 or so:
<a href="http://www.biotangusa.com/bt/product.php?productid=1424" title="biotangusa.com">http://www.biotangusa.com/bt/product.php?productid=1424</a> [biotangusa.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Only poor people would be weak any more... especially considering that 20 micrograms cost $ 200 or so : http : //www.biotangusa.com/bt/product.php ? productid = 1424 [ biotangusa.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only poor people would be weak any more... especially considering that 20 micrograms cost $200 or so:
http://www.biotangusa.com/bt/product.php?productid=1424 [biotangusa.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372442</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260277980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>It could cure obesity: more muscles increases your resting metabolic rate. Just increase muscle mass to the point where your digestive tract is overwhelmed, and you start burning fat, no matter what you eat. Kind of like the movie "thinner", but this one would be called "muscular".

That brings up interesting questions about what happens when your musculo-skeletal system and your nervous system start fighting for calories. The stereotypical big dumb guy?

And isn't this gene therapy, where one shot changes your DNA for life?

Culturally, this will hit the fitness industry like a bombshell. Billions are spent annually on looking "ripped". Here's the real deal. Pretty soon, you won't get laid without it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It could cure obesity : more muscles increases your resting metabolic rate .
Just increase muscle mass to the point where your digestive tract is overwhelmed , and you start burning fat , no matter what you eat .
Kind of like the movie " thinner " , but this one would be called " muscular " .
That brings up interesting questions about what happens when your musculo-skeletal system and your nervous system start fighting for calories .
The stereotypical big dumb guy ?
And is n't this gene therapy , where one shot changes your DNA for life ?
Culturally , this will hit the fitness industry like a bombshell .
Billions are spent annually on looking " ripped " .
Here 's the real deal .
Pretty soon , you wo n't get laid without it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It could cure obesity: more muscles increases your resting metabolic rate.
Just increase muscle mass to the point where your digestive tract is overwhelmed, and you start burning fat, no matter what you eat.
Kind of like the movie "thinner", but this one would be called "muscular".
That brings up interesting questions about what happens when your musculo-skeletal system and your nervous system start fighting for calories.
The stereotypical big dumb guy?
And isn't this gene therapy, where one shot changes your DNA for life?
Culturally, this will hit the fitness industry like a bombshell.
Billions are spent annually on looking "ripped".
Here's the real deal.
Pretty soon, you won't get laid without it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372638</id>
	<title>Help for the Elderly?</title>
	<author>LifesABeach</author>
	<datestamp>1260279120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>One group of people that might take advantage of this treatment would be the elderly.  Diminishing muscle mass is a major issue.  I use to joke about my Mother-In-Law being mean enough to hunt Bear with a Switch; some how that doesn't seem funny any more.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One group of people that might take advantage of this treatment would be the elderly .
Diminishing muscle mass is a major issue .
I use to joke about my Mother-In-Law being mean enough to hunt Bear with a Switch ; some how that does n't seem funny any more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One group of people that might take advantage of this treatment would be the elderly.
Diminishing muscle mass is a major issue.
I use to joke about my Mother-In-Law being mean enough to hunt Bear with a Switch; some how that doesn't seem funny any more.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372778</id>
	<title>That's it.</title>
	<author>Korey Kaczor</author>
	<datestamp>1260280260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Time to stock up on molotovs and pills for my safe room.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Time to stock up on molotovs and pills for my safe room .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Time to stock up on molotovs and pills for my safe room.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374704</id>
	<title>Re:Skeptical about significant increase Caloric Ne</title>
	<author>kheldan</author>
	<datestamp>1260301620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What if you are an active amateur cyclist working your way up the local ranks?</p></div><p>They'd be disqualified and disbarred from racing just as if they'd been using anabolic steroids, that's what would happen.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What if you are an active amateur cyclist working your way up the local ranks ? They 'd be disqualified and disbarred from racing just as if they 'd been using anabolic steroids , that 's what would happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if you are an active amateur cyclist working your way up the local ranks?They'd be disqualified and disbarred from racing just as if they'd been using anabolic steroids, that's what would happen.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374316</id>
	<title>Re:Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260296460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Is this the prelude to a super-strength gene therapy for all of us?</p></div><p>No, the clinical trials will begin but one of the test subjects will realize that they are now stronger than his fellow man and the only thing keeping him a cut above the rest is the drug.  So he (or she, both sexes are equally evil) will taint the other subjects' follistatin with cyanide, killing them all.  Then the super villain transformation into The Sinister Strength will be complete and they will emerge from the carnage at the clinic to hoard all the remaining follistatin.  We have only one hope, that our hero Liam Hoekstra arrives on the scene early enough to put an end to The Sinister Strength<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... refresh Slashdot next week to find out.</p></div><p>that would rock.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this the prelude to a super-strength gene therapy for all of us ? No , the clinical trials will begin but one of the test subjects will realize that they are now stronger than his fellow man and the only thing keeping him a cut above the rest is the drug .
So he ( or she , both sexes are equally evil ) will taint the other subjects ' follistatin with cyanide , killing them all .
Then the super villain transformation into The Sinister Strength will be complete and they will emerge from the carnage at the clinic to hoard all the remaining follistatin .
We have only one hope , that our hero Liam Hoekstra arrives on the scene early enough to put an end to The Sinister Strength ... refresh Slashdot next week to find out.that would rock .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this the prelude to a super-strength gene therapy for all of us?No, the clinical trials will begin but one of the test subjects will realize that they are now stronger than his fellow man and the only thing keeping him a cut above the rest is the drug.
So he (or she, both sexes are equally evil) will taint the other subjects' follistatin with cyanide, killing them all.
Then the super villain transformation into The Sinister Strength will be complete and they will emerge from the carnage at the clinic to hoard all the remaining follistatin.
We have only one hope, that our hero Liam Hoekstra arrives on the scene early enough to put an end to The Sinister Strength ... refresh Slashdot next week to find out.that would rock.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373246</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Totenglocke</author>
	<datestamp>1260284100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Funny?  Yes, but it's actually insightful / informative.  God, I think this post just made us aware that we need to improve the mod system to more accurately reflect a post's content......</htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny ?
Yes , but it 's actually insightful / informative .
God , I think this post just made us aware that we need to improve the mod system to more accurately reflect a post 's content..... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny?
Yes, but it's actually insightful / informative.
God, I think this post just made us aware that we need to improve the mod system to more accurately reflect a post's content......</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30377890</id>
	<title>Re:I hope it never becomes available to normal peo</title>
	<author>NiteShaed</author>
	<datestamp>1259602080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope mass-production never becomes available to normal people.</p><p>Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it available for people with a legitimate medical need. I would just hate to see just anyone get things.</p><p>I'm probably going to get modded flamebait for this one, but here goes...</p><p>I work hard to make everything in my house. I practice carpentry and woodworking every day. I choose how I spend my time very carefully, and I don't give in when I'd rather do something else, like work on my physique. I have earned the right to live the way I do.</p><p>Far, far too many people in this country just want something for nothing. They want the instant fix without any hard work, and this isn't limited to having nice furniture. The idea that someone could pop down to a store and suddenly have their home look like a their furniture was made by a master craftsman makes me angry. It's like those damn "do it yourself kits" you see everywhere. When the day finally comes that a "do it yourself kit" can actually be assembled into really nice furniture, I'll be furious.</p><p>Maybe I'm being too critical, but my opinion boils down to this: If you work hard at something, you deserve to reap the benefits. If you do not work hard at something, you deserve nothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope mass-production never becomes available to normal people.Do n't get me wrong , I 'd love to see it available for people with a legitimate medical need .
I would just hate to see just anyone get things.I 'm probably going to get modded flamebait for this one , but here goes...I work hard to make everything in my house .
I practice carpentry and woodworking every day .
I choose how I spend my time very carefully , and I do n't give in when I 'd rather do something else , like work on my physique .
I have earned the right to live the way I do.Far , far too many people in this country just want something for nothing .
They want the instant fix without any hard work , and this is n't limited to having nice furniture .
The idea that someone could pop down to a store and suddenly have their home look like a their furniture was made by a master craftsman makes me angry .
It 's like those damn " do it yourself kits " you see everywhere .
When the day finally comes that a " do it yourself kit " can actually be assembled into really nice furniture , I 'll be furious.Maybe I 'm being too critical , but my opinion boils down to this : If you work hard at something , you deserve to reap the benefits .
If you do not work hard at something , you deserve nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope mass-production never becomes available to normal people.Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it available for people with a legitimate medical need.
I would just hate to see just anyone get things.I'm probably going to get modded flamebait for this one, but here goes...I work hard to make everything in my house.
I practice carpentry and woodworking every day.
I choose how I spend my time very carefully, and I don't give in when I'd rather do something else, like work on my physique.
I have earned the right to live the way I do.Far, far too many people in this country just want something for nothing.
They want the instant fix without any hard work, and this isn't limited to having nice furniture.
The idea that someone could pop down to a store and suddenly have their home look like a their furniture was made by a master craftsman makes me angry.
It's like those damn "do it yourself kits" you see everywhere.
When the day finally comes that a "do it yourself kit" can actually be assembled into really nice furniture, I'll be furious.Maybe I'm being too critical, but my opinion boils down to this: If you work hard at something, you deserve to reap the benefits.
If you do not work hard at something, you deserve nothing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372452</id>
	<title>Fastest way to burn calories is to gain musclemass</title>
	<author>netsavior</author>
	<datestamp>1260277980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>so is this the new diet drug? Americans already take in too many calories, it would be very trans-human and very cool if we just altered our muscle mass instead of shrinking our calorie intake.</htmltext>
<tokenext>so is this the new diet drug ?
Americans already take in too many calories , it would be very trans-human and very cool if we just altered our muscle mass instead of shrinking our calorie intake .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so is this the new diet drug?
Americans already take in too many calories, it would be very trans-human and very cool if we just altered our muscle mass instead of shrinking our calorie intake.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372294</id>
	<title>Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Dice</author>
	<datestamp>1260277140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And what would we do with this super strength?  Personally, the heaviest thing I ever need to lift is the occasional DB server.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And what would we do with this super strength ?
Personally , the heaviest thing I ever need to lift is the occasional DB server .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And what would we do with this super strength?
Personally, the heaviest thing I ever need to lift is the occasional DB server.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372942</id>
	<title>Fitting quote from the incredibles (Pixar)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260281520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When everyone is super - no one will be.</p><p>-ted</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When everyone is super - no one will be.-ted</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When everyone is super - no one will be.-ted</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372784</id>
	<title>Re:consequences</title>
	<author>dbIII</author>
	<datestamp>1260280380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Seems like there is probably a reason we have myostatin and if you disable it</p></div></blockquote><p>There is a theory that early human hunters would spear a  big, strong, fast furry critter and then just keep following the thing at a steady pace until it collapsed from exhaustion.  We seem to be built for the long run instead of the short sprint.<br>Personally I'm looking for the genetic modification that lets me get by on about an hour of sleep a night.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like there is probably a reason we have myostatin and if you disable itThere is a theory that early human hunters would spear a big , strong , fast furry critter and then just keep following the thing at a steady pace until it collapsed from exhaustion .
We seem to be built for the long run instead of the short sprint.Personally I 'm looking for the genetic modification that lets me get by on about an hour of sleep a night .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like there is probably a reason we have myostatin and if you disable itThere is a theory that early human hunters would spear a  big, strong, fast furry critter and then just keep following the thing at a steady pace until it collapsed from exhaustion.
We seem to be built for the long run instead of the short sprint.Personally I'm looking for the genetic modification that lets me get by on about an hour of sleep a night.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30377126</id>
	<title>Re:Super Soldiers?</title>
	<author>MattSausage</author>
	<datestamp>1259597580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you weren't AC I'd mod you informative.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you were n't AC I 'd mod you informative .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you weren't AC I'd mod you informative.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30383126</id>
	<title>Re:Of intense interest.</title>
	<author>RedBear</author>
	<datestamp>1259586540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you're open-minded enough to consider "anything" to help you control your weight, here's a tip: Carbohydrates cause the release of insulin and the storage of fatty acids in fat cells. Without carbohydrates, two things happen: A) it is much more difficult for the body to store fatty acids (which originate from anything you eat, not just carbs) as fat because a certain component of the fat storage cycle is only present when you consume carbohydrates, and B) there is a much lower level of insulin released into the bloodstream at any given time, which makes the body much less apt to even attempt to store fatty acids as fat.</p><p>In other words, the low-carb crazies are correct and have been all along. You can keep your weight down without increasing exercise or starving yourself, just by changing your diet to reduce the amount of high-glycemic-load carbohydrates you ingest. Note that glycemic load is not necessarily the same as glycemic index. You have to pay close attention to exactly how each type of food will end up affecting your blood sugar, regardless of whether the nutrition label indicates it to be low-carb or not. It's the specific kind of carb and what you combine it with at any particular meal that makes the difference between losing weight and gaining weight.</p><p>Google Gary Taubes for his very informative and well-researched video about the science behind all this, and find some good low-carb instruction books on Amazon to help you understand exactly how to proceed without inadvertently eating the wrong thing or taking any supplements which might stall your progress. And good luck.</p><p>Or you could ignore this advice completely, keep following the flawed "food pyramid" recommendations and wonder why you keep gaining more and more weight as you get older, while you simultaneously develop diabetes for some "unknown" reason. Your doctor will help you out by putting you on drugs that make you more sensitive to insulin (!) which will cause you to gain weight even more easily, and then he'll recommend a "low fat, low cholesterol" diet as if fat and cholesterol CAUSED the diabetes or reducing them has some chance of reversing it. Oh, and he might say, offhand, "Try to stay away from sugar."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're open-minded enough to consider " anything " to help you control your weight , here 's a tip : Carbohydrates cause the release of insulin and the storage of fatty acids in fat cells .
Without carbohydrates , two things happen : A ) it is much more difficult for the body to store fatty acids ( which originate from anything you eat , not just carbs ) as fat because a certain component of the fat storage cycle is only present when you consume carbohydrates , and B ) there is a much lower level of insulin released into the bloodstream at any given time , which makes the body much less apt to even attempt to store fatty acids as fat.In other words , the low-carb crazies are correct and have been all along .
You can keep your weight down without increasing exercise or starving yourself , just by changing your diet to reduce the amount of high-glycemic-load carbohydrates you ingest .
Note that glycemic load is not necessarily the same as glycemic index .
You have to pay close attention to exactly how each type of food will end up affecting your blood sugar , regardless of whether the nutrition label indicates it to be low-carb or not .
It 's the specific kind of carb and what you combine it with at any particular meal that makes the difference between losing weight and gaining weight.Google Gary Taubes for his very informative and well-researched video about the science behind all this , and find some good low-carb instruction books on Amazon to help you understand exactly how to proceed without inadvertently eating the wrong thing or taking any supplements which might stall your progress .
And good luck.Or you could ignore this advice completely , keep following the flawed " food pyramid " recommendations and wonder why you keep gaining more and more weight as you get older , while you simultaneously develop diabetes for some " unknown " reason .
Your doctor will help you out by putting you on drugs that make you more sensitive to insulin ( !
) which will cause you to gain weight even more easily , and then he 'll recommend a " low fat , low cholesterol " diet as if fat and cholesterol CAUSED the diabetes or reducing them has some chance of reversing it .
Oh , and he might say , offhand , " Try to stay away from sugar .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're open-minded enough to consider "anything" to help you control your weight, here's a tip: Carbohydrates cause the release of insulin and the storage of fatty acids in fat cells.
Without carbohydrates, two things happen: A) it is much more difficult for the body to store fatty acids (which originate from anything you eat, not just carbs) as fat because a certain component of the fat storage cycle is only present when you consume carbohydrates, and B) there is a much lower level of insulin released into the bloodstream at any given time, which makes the body much less apt to even attempt to store fatty acids as fat.In other words, the low-carb crazies are correct and have been all along.
You can keep your weight down without increasing exercise or starving yourself, just by changing your diet to reduce the amount of high-glycemic-load carbohydrates you ingest.
Note that glycemic load is not necessarily the same as glycemic index.
You have to pay close attention to exactly how each type of food will end up affecting your blood sugar, regardless of whether the nutrition label indicates it to be low-carb or not.
It's the specific kind of carb and what you combine it with at any particular meal that makes the difference between losing weight and gaining weight.Google Gary Taubes for his very informative and well-researched video about the science behind all this, and find some good low-carb instruction books on Amazon to help you understand exactly how to proceed without inadvertently eating the wrong thing or taking any supplements which might stall your progress.
And good luck.Or you could ignore this advice completely, keep following the flawed "food pyramid" recommendations and wonder why you keep gaining more and more weight as you get older, while you simultaneously develop diabetes for some "unknown" reason.
Your doctor will help you out by putting you on drugs that make you more sensitive to insulin (!
) which will cause you to gain weight even more easily, and then he'll recommend a "low fat, low cholesterol" diet as if fat and cholesterol CAUSED the diabetes or reducing them has some chance of reversing it.
Oh, and he might say, offhand, "Try to stay away from sugar.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373784</id>
	<title>Re:Of intense interest.</title>
	<author>pipedwho</author>
	<datestamp>1260289380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately increasing your muscle mass is more likely to make your problem worse. What you're after is something that can rebuild the connective/cushioning tissues, tendons and ligaments.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately increasing your muscle mass is more likely to make your problem worse .
What you 're after is something that can rebuild the connective/cushioning tissues , tendons and ligaments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately increasing your muscle mass is more likely to make your problem worse.
What you're after is something that can rebuild the connective/cushioning tissues, tendons and ligaments.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373436</id>
	<title>Re:Fitting quote from the incredibles (Pixar)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260285660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe we could all start liking each other for our personalities instead of how many abdominal muscles are bulging out of our stomachs</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe we could all start liking each other for our personalities instead of how many abdominal muscles are bulging out of our stomachs</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe we could all start liking each other for our personalities instead of how many abdominal muscles are bulging out of our stomachs</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375952</id>
	<title>Re:Super Soldiers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259587140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What are you talking about exactly?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What are you talking about exactly ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are you talking about exactly?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372726</id>
	<title>Use for astronaunts?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260279840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Could this be used to help fix the problem astronaunts have of losing muscle mass in weightlessness?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Could this be used to help fix the problem astronaunts have of losing muscle mass in weightlessness ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could this be used to help fix the problem astronaunts have of losing muscle mass in weightlessness?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373794</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260289440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yours never shuts up either, eh?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yours never shuts up either , eh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yours never shuts up either, eh?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373048</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372404</id>
	<title>Great, now I will beaten to death by my girlfriend</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1260277800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least she won't smell musky and have a 'stache.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least she wo n't smell musky and have a 'stache.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least she won't smell musky and have a 'stache.....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30380108</id>
	<title>Re:Skeptical about significant increase Caloric Ne</title>
	<author>StikyPad</author>
	<datestamp>1259614560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, you'd also have 40\% more muscle weight to propel, so it really depends on how it affects the thrust to weight ratio.  Does 40\% more muscle translate to &gt;=40\% more thrust and/or endurance?  Probably not, which means you're getting diminishing returns at best, or possibly even negative returns in the realm of self-propulsion.  Weightlifting is an entirely different story, but there you need to worry about torn ligaments and tendons.  Does myostatin play any role in regulating the growth of this connective tissue?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , you 'd also have 40 \ % more muscle weight to propel , so it really depends on how it affects the thrust to weight ratio .
Does 40 \ % more muscle translate to &gt; = 40 \ % more thrust and/or endurance ?
Probably not , which means you 're getting diminishing returns at best , or possibly even negative returns in the realm of self-propulsion .
Weightlifting is an entirely different story , but there you need to worry about torn ligaments and tendons .
Does myostatin play any role in regulating the growth of this connective tissue ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, you'd also have 40\% more muscle weight to propel, so it really depends on how it affects the thrust to weight ratio.
Does 40\% more muscle translate to &gt;=40\% more thrust and/or endurance?
Probably not, which means you're getting diminishing returns at best, or possibly even negative returns in the realm of self-propulsion.
Weightlifting is an entirely different story, but there you need to worry about torn ligaments and tendons.
Does myostatin play any role in regulating the growth of this connective tissue?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30376842</id>
	<title>Re:I hope it never becomes available to normal peo</title>
	<author>LanMan04</author>
	<datestamp>1259595780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it's a true shortcut to physical fitness/buffness, then why the hell not?</p><p>It's like saying that people who are immune to flu via vaccinations are "cheating" because they didn't tough out a bout with the flu to become immune.</p><p>Or that people who use Excel to do spreadsheets are "cheating" because they're not using graph paper or whatever.</p><p>Or that people who drive a car are "cheating" because they didn't walk.</p><p>Work SMARTER, not harder.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's a true shortcut to physical fitness/buffness , then why the hell not ? It 's like saying that people who are immune to flu via vaccinations are " cheating " because they did n't tough out a bout with the flu to become immune.Or that people who use Excel to do spreadsheets are " cheating " because they 're not using graph paper or whatever.Or that people who drive a car are " cheating " because they did n't walk.Work SMARTER , not harder .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's a true shortcut to physical fitness/buffness, then why the hell not?It's like saying that people who are immune to flu via vaccinations are "cheating" because they didn't tough out a bout with the flu to become immune.Or that people who use Excel to do spreadsheets are "cheating" because they're not using graph paper or whatever.Or that people who drive a car are "cheating" because they didn't walk.Work SMARTER, not harder.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374628</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30376144</id>
	<title>Re:Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>ectotherm</author>
	<datestamp>1259589600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I, for one, welcome our hypertrophic, simian overlords...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I , for one , welcome our hypertrophic , simian overlords.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I, for one, welcome our hypertrophic, simian overlords...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373528</id>
	<title>Re:Skeptical about significant increase Caloric Ne</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260286620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If there's no side effects (besides a massive case of the munchies), I'm a soldier, and it's an unfair advantage over my opponents, where do I fucking sign? Hell even if I'm not a soldier. If I'm ME (I train in kung fu) and I plateau on strength but I want to make sure to have an edge over guys taller than me in a fight, it's still not a bad idea if there's no massive side effects.</p><p>Basically, if you're competing in the dog eat dog nature sense instead of the "Let's all be fair" human sense, and this has no bad side effects, it's a no brainer. Particularly if the effects are reversible if food supplies become scarce later.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If there 's no side effects ( besides a massive case of the munchies ) , I 'm a soldier , and it 's an unfair advantage over my opponents , where do I fucking sign ?
Hell even if I 'm not a soldier .
If I 'm ME ( I train in kung fu ) and I plateau on strength but I want to make sure to have an edge over guys taller than me in a fight , it 's still not a bad idea if there 's no massive side effects.Basically , if you 're competing in the dog eat dog nature sense instead of the " Let 's all be fair " human sense , and this has no bad side effects , it 's a no brainer .
Particularly if the effects are reversible if food supplies become scarce later .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there's no side effects (besides a massive case of the munchies), I'm a soldier, and it's an unfair advantage over my opponents, where do I fucking sign?
Hell even if I'm not a soldier.
If I'm ME (I train in kung fu) and I plateau on strength but I want to make sure to have an edge over guys taller than me in a fight, it's still not a bad idea if there's no massive side effects.Basically, if you're competing in the dog eat dog nature sense instead of the "Let's all be fair" human sense, and this has no bad side effects, it's a no brainer.
Particularly if the effects are reversible if food supplies become scarce later.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30377624</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>KnownIssues</author>
	<datestamp>1259600400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"The National Children's Hospital interest in myostatin is not to create super strong children, but to help those children whose muscles have already atrophied.</p></div><p>
Right. And scientists' interest in nuclear fission was not to create an atomic bomb. It doesn't matter what the original intention is. If something can be used for evil, it <i>will</i> be used for evil (or stupidity).
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The National Children 's Hospital interest in myostatin is not to create super strong children , but to help those children whose muscles have already atrophied .
Right. And scientists ' interest in nuclear fission was not to create an atomic bomb .
It does n't matter what the original intention is .
If something can be used for evil , it will be used for evil ( or stupidity ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The National Children's Hospital interest in myostatin is not to create super strong children, but to help those children whose muscles have already atrophied.
Right. And scientists' interest in nuclear fission was not to create an atomic bomb.
It doesn't matter what the original intention is.
If something can be used for evil, it will be used for evil (or stupidity).

	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373126</id>
	<title>Re:consequences</title>
	<author>Veroxii</author>
	<datestamp>1260283140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It still happens - called the persistence hunt. Check it out <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUpo\_mA5RP8" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUpo\_mA5RP8</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It still happens - called the persistence hunt .
Check it out http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = fUpo \ _mA5RP8 [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It still happens - called the persistence hunt.
Check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUpo\_mA5RP8 [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372784</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30377530</id>
	<title>Re:features, not side effects</title>
	<author>GameboyRMH</author>
	<datestamp>1259599920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why would you do that? Huge balls are badass. I bet the ladies dig 'em.
<br> <br>
(I'm only half-joking...were they really THAT big?)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would you do that ?
Huge balls are badass .
I bet the ladies dig 'em .
( I 'm only half-joking...were they really THAT big ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would you do that?
Huge balls are badass.
I bet the ladies dig 'em.
(I'm only half-joking...were they really THAT big?
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372960</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372974</id>
	<title>what could possibly go wrong?</title>
	<author>jjeffries</author>
	<datestamp>1260281700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.frogview.com/uploadimages1/468f8326d09681.05978191frogview-gallery.jpg" title="frogview.com">http://www.frogview.com/uploadimages1/468f8326d09681.05978191frogview-gallery.jpg</a> [frogview.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.frogview.com/uploadimages1/468f8326d09681.05978191frogview-gallery.jpg [ frogview.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.frogview.com/uploadimages1/468f8326d09681.05978191frogview-gallery.jpg [frogview.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30377372</id>
	<title>Re:Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>plague3106</author>
	<datestamp>1259599140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right, because the only reason people aren't being the crap out of you now is because you've never bumped into anyone bigger than you.</p><p>You know what would happen?  People would do this, and have the body they want.  That's it.  There wouldn't be any more people running around beating people up than there are now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right , because the only reason people are n't being the crap out of you now is because you 've never bumped into anyone bigger than you.You know what would happen ?
People would do this , and have the body they want .
That 's it .
There would n't be any more people running around beating people up than there are now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right, because the only reason people aren't being the crap out of you now is because you've never bumped into anyone bigger than you.You know what would happen?
People would do this, and have the body they want.
That's it.
There wouldn't be any more people running around beating people up than there are now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372960</id>
	<title>features, not side effects</title>
	<author>mevets</author>
	<datestamp>1260281640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For example I take anabolic steroids to shrink my testicles, not gain muscle mass.  Works like a charm, I'm no longer embarrassed at the beach.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For example I take anabolic steroids to shrink my testicles , not gain muscle mass .
Works like a charm , I 'm no longer embarrassed at the beach .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For example I take anabolic steroids to shrink my testicles, not gain muscle mass.
Works like a charm, I'm no longer embarrassed at the beach.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30378836</id>
	<title>Re:Um, there are not-unforseen problems</title>
	<author>ShakaUVM</author>
	<datestamp>1259607180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;We have a world food distribution/shortage problem as it is. Imagine SUPER STRONG STARVING Humans.</p><p>So you just give it to Americans, who could use a little bit more muscle, and a little bit less fat. We get plenty of calories.</p><p>We could even just give it to our armed forces, and call it the Super Soldier Project. Tho' the Titan Project has a nice ring to it, too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; We have a world food distribution/shortage problem as it is .
Imagine SUPER STRONG STARVING Humans.So you just give it to Americans , who could use a little bit more muscle , and a little bit less fat .
We get plenty of calories.We could even just give it to our armed forces , and call it the Super Soldier Project .
Tho ' the Titan Project has a nice ring to it , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;We have a world food distribution/shortage problem as it is.
Imagine SUPER STRONG STARVING Humans.So you just give it to Americans, who could use a little bit more muscle, and a little bit less fat.
We get plenty of calories.We could even just give it to our armed forces, and call it the Super Soldier Project.
Tho' the Titan Project has a nice ring to it, too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30376942</id>
	<title>No, More like "Syndrome" from "The Incredibles"</title>
	<author>d3ac0n</author>
	<datestamp>1259596320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Syndrome used technology, but his tech could be easily compared to this therapy.</p><p>His classic line delivered to Mr. Incredible seems most appropriate here:  "...and when everyone is 'Super'... No-one will be."</p><p>It seems that once this is widely available, it won't really matter all that much as everyone will be 'Super'.  We'll end up right back where we started, only more muscly.</p><p>Actually, what concerns me more is that we have become so good at making nutrient dense food that even if we completely stop producing myostatin we will STILL have Obese people.  Just really strong Obese people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Syndrome used technology , but his tech could be easily compared to this therapy.His classic line delivered to Mr. Incredible seems most appropriate here : " ...and when everyone is 'Super'... No-one will be .
" It seems that once this is widely available , it wo n't really matter all that much as everyone will be 'Super' .
We 'll end up right back where we started , only more muscly.Actually , what concerns me more is that we have become so good at making nutrient dense food that even if we completely stop producing myostatin we will STILL have Obese people .
Just really strong Obese people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Syndrome used technology, but his tech could be easily compared to this therapy.His classic line delivered to Mr. Incredible seems most appropriate here:  "...and when everyone is 'Super'... No-one will be.
"It seems that once this is widely available, it won't really matter all that much as everyone will be 'Super'.
We'll end up right back where we started, only more muscly.Actually, what concerns me more is that we have become so good at making nutrient dense food that even if we completely stop producing myostatin we will STILL have Obese people.
Just really strong Obese people.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372900</id>
	<title>Less Captain America, more Marshal Law</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260281160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure, they'll have super strength and big muscles.  Only to find that their skeletons can't handle the strain, and they end up breaking their arms, legs and ripping tendons with every step.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , they 'll have super strength and big muscles .
Only to find that their skeletons ca n't handle the strain , and they end up breaking their arms , legs and ripping tendons with every step .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, they'll have super strength and big muscles.
Only to find that their skeletons can't handle the strain, and they end up breaking their arms, legs and ripping tendons with every step.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373376</id>
	<title>Re:Um, there are not-unforseen problems</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260285180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I dig you Social Darwanists.  We should throw you over to a refugee camp and let your superior genes make you rise to the top.  Would be good TV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I dig you Social Darwanists .
We should throw you over to a refugee camp and let your superior genes make you rise to the top .
Would be good TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dig you Social Darwanists.
We should throw you over to a refugee camp and let your superior genes make you rise to the top.
Would be good TV.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373732</id>
	<title>Re:Skeptical about significant increase Caloric Ne</title>
	<author>phantomfive</author>
	<datestamp>1260288840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I think a more interesting question is what do you do if this is readily available, cheap and easy to use? Would you do it? What if you are an active amateur cyclist working your way up the local ranks? They guys are gonna love you coming in with your extra 30 lbs of muscle and storm by them up the local hill</p></div><p>At some point, extra muscle becomes a hindrance, not a help. Sure, leg muscles are great, but when you have to cycle an extra 30 pounds of shoulder muscle up the top of a hill, it's going to be a drag on you and more work to get to the top of the hill.<br> <br>
I don't see this making a big difference in sports, except by making it easier to train. You can already <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Luks\_Osladil.jpg" title="wikipedia.org">maximize your body's potential with the training techniques we have</a> [wikipedia.org], but this will make it easier to get through the initial fitness phase. Also I'm going to suggest that to become someone like Lance Armstrong, getting the muscles and endurance is <i>easy</i> compared to developing riding techniques (knowing how to climb, knowing how to pedal efficiently, etc). That takes serious work and effort.<br> <br>
One thing that should be investigated is how this affects the diet. With body building, the diet is one of the most important things. If you get your diet balanced correctly, the muscles will come almost effortlessly.  But if your body isn't getting the nutrients it needs, you aren't going to grow  muscles, even with steroids.  I suspect if average people took a myostatin blocker without focusing on their diet, they would end up having more muscles, eating a lot more, and end up having just as much fat.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think a more interesting question is what do you do if this is readily available , cheap and easy to use ?
Would you do it ?
What if you are an active amateur cyclist working your way up the local ranks ?
They guys are gon na love you coming in with your extra 30 lbs of muscle and storm by them up the local hillAt some point , extra muscle becomes a hindrance , not a help .
Sure , leg muscles are great , but when you have to cycle an extra 30 pounds of shoulder muscle up the top of a hill , it 's going to be a drag on you and more work to get to the top of the hill .
I do n't see this making a big difference in sports , except by making it easier to train .
You can already maximize your body 's potential with the training techniques we have [ wikipedia.org ] , but this will make it easier to get through the initial fitness phase .
Also I 'm going to suggest that to become someone like Lance Armstrong , getting the muscles and endurance is easy compared to developing riding techniques ( knowing how to climb , knowing how to pedal efficiently , etc ) .
That takes serious work and effort .
One thing that should be investigated is how this affects the diet .
With body building , the diet is one of the most important things .
If you get your diet balanced correctly , the muscles will come almost effortlessly .
But if your body is n't getting the nutrients it needs , you are n't going to grow muscles , even with steroids .
I suspect if average people took a myostatin blocker without focusing on their diet , they would end up having more muscles , eating a lot more , and end up having just as much fat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think a more interesting question is what do you do if this is readily available, cheap and easy to use?
Would you do it?
What if you are an active amateur cyclist working your way up the local ranks?
They guys are gonna love you coming in with your extra 30 lbs of muscle and storm by them up the local hillAt some point, extra muscle becomes a hindrance, not a help.
Sure, leg muscles are great, but when you have to cycle an extra 30 pounds of shoulder muscle up the top of a hill, it's going to be a drag on you and more work to get to the top of the hill.
I don't see this making a big difference in sports, except by making it easier to train.
You can already maximize your body's potential with the training techniques we have [wikipedia.org], but this will make it easier to get through the initial fitness phase.
Also I'm going to suggest that to become someone like Lance Armstrong, getting the muscles and endurance is easy compared to developing riding techniques (knowing how to climb, knowing how to pedal efficiently, etc).
That takes serious work and effort.
One thing that should be investigated is how this affects the diet.
With body building, the diet is one of the most important things.
If you get your diet balanced correctly, the muscles will come almost effortlessly.
But if your body isn't getting the nutrients it needs, you aren't going to grow  muscles, even with steroids.
I suspect if average people took a myostatin blocker without focusing on their diet, they would end up having more muscles, eating a lot more, and end up having just as much fat.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30382998</id>
	<title>Re:features, not side effects</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259585820000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Wow, thank you for contributing to this forum, Mrs. Palin!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , thank you for contributing to this forum , Mrs. Palin !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, thank you for contributing to this forum, Mrs. Palin!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374958</id>
	<title>Re:I hope it never becomes available to normal peo</title>
	<author>mikael\_j</author>
	<datestamp>1259614380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So your argument boils down to "I worked hard and now there's an easy solution, it should be banned to make me feel superior."? I guess your really hate that using a computer no longer requires programming knowledge as well?</p><p>Also, what about the kid who grew up with parents who fed him/her shitty fast food every day and by the time he/she was old enough to realize it was the crappy diet turning him/her into a fatty he/she was already at that point where exercise was a lot harder than it would've been for someone who grew up in a family where mommy and daddy made sure they ate only healthy food, where monday, wednesday, friday and weekends were "hockey practice days" or "soccer practice days", where daddy would stand by the side of the rink screaming at them to perform better? How is the latter not an "unfair" advantage compared in regard to physical fitness?</p><p>/Mikael</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So your argument boils down to " I worked hard and now there 's an easy solution , it should be banned to make me feel superior. " ?
I guess your really hate that using a computer no longer requires programming knowledge as well ? Also , what about the kid who grew up with parents who fed him/her shitty fast food every day and by the time he/she was old enough to realize it was the crappy diet turning him/her into a fatty he/she was already at that point where exercise was a lot harder than it would 've been for someone who grew up in a family where mommy and daddy made sure they ate only healthy food , where monday , wednesday , friday and weekends were " hockey practice days " or " soccer practice days " , where daddy would stand by the side of the rink screaming at them to perform better ?
How is the latter not an " unfair " advantage compared in regard to physical fitness ? /Mikael</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So your argument boils down to "I worked hard and now there's an easy solution, it should be banned to make me feel superior."?
I guess your really hate that using a computer no longer requires programming knowledge as well?Also, what about the kid who grew up with parents who fed him/her shitty fast food every day and by the time he/she was old enough to realize it was the crappy diet turning him/her into a fatty he/she was already at that point where exercise was a lot harder than it would've been for someone who grew up in a family where mommy and daddy made sure they ate only healthy food, where monday, wednesday, friday and weekends were "hockey practice days" or "soccer practice days", where daddy would stand by the side of the rink screaming at them to perform better?
How is the latter not an "unfair" advantage compared in regard to physical fitness?/Mikael</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372740</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260279900000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Maybe you should rethink that for just a moment.  If you weigh 400lbs and are able to move under your own power don't you think that you would by definition have more muscle mass than the guy next to you who weighs 120lbs and does no exercise as well.  At least you should be able to push with your legs with a force greater than 400lbs in order to move.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe you should rethink that for just a moment .
If you weigh 400lbs and are able to move under your own power do n't you think that you would by definition have more muscle mass than the guy next to you who weighs 120lbs and does no exercise as well .
At least you should be able to push with your legs with a force greater than 400lbs in order to move .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe you should rethink that for just a moment.
If you weigh 400lbs and are able to move under your own power don't you think that you would by definition have more muscle mass than the guy next to you who weighs 120lbs and does no exercise as well.
At least you should be able to push with your legs with a force greater than 400lbs in order to move.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30376632</id>
	<title>Re:Fastest way to burn calories is to gain musclem</title>
	<author>Tarsir</author>
	<datestamp>1259594040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It wouldn't work. To lose weight, you need to take in fewer calories than you burn. When you do that, you will feel hungry. It doesn't matter if you're reducing your calorie intake by dieting, or increasing your calorie expenditure by using some new drug that increases your muscles mass. The hardest part of losing weight is having the discipline to not eat when you're hungry.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would n't work .
To lose weight , you need to take in fewer calories than you burn .
When you do that , you will feel hungry .
It does n't matter if you 're reducing your calorie intake by dieting , or increasing your calorie expenditure by using some new drug that increases your muscles mass .
The hardest part of losing weight is having the discipline to not eat when you 're hungry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It wouldn't work.
To lose weight, you need to take in fewer calories than you burn.
When you do that, you will feel hungry.
It doesn't matter if you're reducing your calorie intake by dieting, or increasing your calorie expenditure by using some new drug that increases your muscles mass.
The hardest part of losing weight is having the discipline to not eat when you're hungry.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372510</id>
	<title>Darn</title>
	<author>spyder-implee</author>
	<datestamp>1260278280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>For some reason I was really hoping to see some pictures of buff Monkeys.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For some reason I was really hoping to see some pictures of buff Monkeys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For some reason I was really hoping to see some pictures of buff Monkeys.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374450</id>
	<title>Re:Um, there are not-unforseen problems</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1260298260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That&rsquo;s what machine guns are for.</p><p>Besides: Where would they get that injection from anyway?</p><p>There is no shortage! There is a non-equal distribution. Which, depending on who you want to help, is either what you want, or really wrong.<br>I understand that you want to help others more than yourself... oh wait... state it, and complain about it, but not doing anything real at all. (Donating $5 a year (or month) to &ldquo;starving children&rdquo; is not going to make anything better. Rather worse even.)<br>Instead you do what we all to: Work for our own good, and the &ldquo;good&rdquo; of those who benefit us.</p><p>So first, follow your own philosophy, by spreading all your money across the world equally, until you all have the same amount.<br>Or admit that you&rsquo;re really only doing things for yourself.<br>Both is fine with me. I&rsquo;m not here do judge. Just to point out how things are.<br>But stop being a hypocrite!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That    s what machine guns are for.Besides : Where would they get that injection from anyway ? There is no shortage !
There is a non-equal distribution .
Which , depending on who you want to help , is either what you want , or really wrong.I understand that you want to help others more than yourself... oh wait... state it , and complain about it , but not doing anything real at all .
( Donating $ 5 a year ( or month ) to    starving children    is not going to make anything better .
Rather worse even .
) Instead you do what we all to : Work for our own good , and the    good    of those who benefit us.So first , follow your own philosophy , by spreading all your money across the world equally , until you all have the same amount.Or admit that you    re really only doing things for yourself.Both is fine with me .
I    m not here do judge .
Just to point out how things are.But stop being a hypocrite !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That’s what machine guns are for.Besides: Where would they get that injection from anyway?There is no shortage!
There is a non-equal distribution.
Which, depending on who you want to help, is either what you want, or really wrong.I understand that you want to help others more than yourself... oh wait... state it, and complain about it, but not doing anything real at all.
(Donating $5 a year (or month) to “starving children” is not going to make anything better.
Rather worse even.
)Instead you do what we all to: Work for our own good, and the “good” of those who benefit us.So first, follow your own philosophy, by spreading all your money across the world equally, until you all have the same amount.Or admit that you’re really only doing things for yourself.Both is fine with me.
I’m not here do judge.
Just to point out how things are.But stop being a hypocrite!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374940</id>
	<title>Re:Skeptical about significant increase Caloric Ne</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259613840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Using those numbers and average man with 75 pounds of muscle would burn 2625-3750 just from his muscle at rest, then add organ systems and actual work performed and an average man would need over 5000 calories (I'm assuming we're talking kcal here) a day...</p><p>I'm 186cm long and weigh 85kg, I have average or slightly above average musculature (I can do a pull-up from straight arms and do chest presses at 170 pounds), and I can still grow new muscle at a 2000 kcal diet.</p><p>Unless of course you are talking actual calories and not kcal, then the 1500 calories are nothing (a banana is about 100,000 calories).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Using those numbers and average man with 75 pounds of muscle would burn 2625-3750 just from his muscle at rest , then add organ systems and actual work performed and an average man would need over 5000 calories ( I 'm assuming we 're talking kcal here ) a day...I 'm 186cm long and weigh 85kg , I have average or slightly above average musculature ( I can do a pull-up from straight arms and do chest presses at 170 pounds ) , and I can still grow new muscle at a 2000 kcal diet.Unless of course you are talking actual calories and not kcal , then the 1500 calories are nothing ( a banana is about 100,000 calories ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Using those numbers and average man with 75 pounds of muscle would burn 2625-3750 just from his muscle at rest, then add organ systems and actual work performed and an average man would need over 5000 calories (I'm assuming we're talking kcal here) a day...I'm 186cm long and weigh 85kg, I have average or slightly above average musculature (I can do a pull-up from straight arms and do chest presses at 170 pounds), and I can still grow new muscle at a 2000 kcal diet.Unless of course you are talking actual calories and not kcal, then the 1500 calories are nothing (a banana is about 100,000 calories).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374406</id>
	<title>Re:Super Soldiers?</title>
	<author>Courageous</author>
	<datestamp>1260297720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They don't want heavy soldiers for the most part, no. The game in soldiery is endurance, not physical size.</p><p>They might be interested in something that promotes lean body mass, but understand that pure testosterone will do that right now, and they're not buying.</p><p>C//</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They do n't want heavy soldiers for the most part , no .
The game in soldiery is endurance , not physical size.They might be interested in something that promotes lean body mass , but understand that pure testosterone will do that right now , and they 're not buying.C//</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They don't want heavy soldiers for the most part, no.
The game in soldiery is endurance, not physical size.They might be interested in something that promotes lean body mass, but understand that pure testosterone will do that right now, and they're not buying.C//</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30380280</id>
	<title>Re:Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1259572440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are also missing the fact that they would be the only one to survive the overall procedure (due to killing all the rest) and the gov. would shut down the project calling it a failure. Then they would make themselves a costume with a lot of blue and stars in it, as well as make a big blue shield with a big bulls eye star in the middle and call themselves captain America</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are also missing the fact that they would be the only one to survive the overall procedure ( due to killing all the rest ) and the gov .
would shut down the project calling it a failure .
Then they would make themselves a costume with a lot of blue and stars in it , as well as make a big blue shield with a big bulls eye star in the middle and call themselves captain America</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are also missing the fact that they would be the only one to survive the overall procedure (due to killing all the rest) and the gov.
would shut down the project calling it a failure.
Then they would make themselves a costume with a lot of blue and stars in it, as well as make a big blue shield with a big bulls eye star in the middle and call themselves captain America</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30393328</id>
	<title>Re:I hope it never becomes available to normal peo</title>
	<author>bkruiser</author>
	<datestamp>1260436320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do you work hard to have 10 fingers?  Do you work hard to have an able mind?  Could it be that you are endowed with an ability to control yourself with food that others aren't?  I find it quite hopefull that someday we will not be able to discriminate based on what we think is important.  Imagine, dumb people could be smart, short people could grow, skinny people could be bulky, lazy people could be ambitious.  The fact is that we should be able to decide our genetic tendancies for ourselves.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you work hard to have 10 fingers ?
Do you work hard to have an able mind ?
Could it be that you are endowed with an ability to control yourself with food that others are n't ?
I find it quite hopefull that someday we will not be able to discriminate based on what we think is important .
Imagine , dumb people could be smart , short people could grow , skinny people could be bulky , lazy people could be ambitious .
The fact is that we should be able to decide our genetic tendancies for ourselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you work hard to have 10 fingers?
Do you work hard to have an able mind?
Could it be that you are endowed with an ability to control yourself with food that others aren't?
I find it quite hopefull that someday we will not be able to discriminate based on what we think is important.
Imagine, dumb people could be smart, short people could grow, skinny people could be bulky, lazy people could be ambitious.
The fact is that we should be able to decide our genetic tendancies for ourselves.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372864</id>
	<title>Skeptical about significant increase Caloric Needs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260280980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While true that muscle burns more calories at rest and that a more heavier, more muscular person needs more calories than a lighter, thinner person I think most slashdotters are overestimating the effects.  I mean the little hulk kid is growing too.  All toddlers eat like little monsters.  Anyway, a pound of muscle at rest burns 35 to 50 calories a day, so up to 500 calories for ten pounds of new muscle per day.  So lets do some quick math.  The average American male is made up of about 42\% skeletal muscle, which at 185 lbs that is roughly 75 pounds of muscle.  If you increase the muscle mass by 40\% (Yes, I RTFA) that is about 30 lbs of new muscle.  Pretty awesome when you think about it, but that still only burns an extra 1500 calories a day max.  Most Americans overeat that amount anyway.  I don't think anyone would be starving, they would just be harder and fitter.  A big mac has over 500 calories to put that into perspective.</p><p>I think a more interesting question is what do you do if this is readily available, cheap and easy to use?  Would you do it?  What if you are an active amateur cyclist working your way up the local ranks?  They guys are gonna love you coming in with your extra 30 lbs of muscle and storm by them up the local hill.  Do we start over with all the record books?  This isn't exactly roids but it isn't exactly a tough training plan that you earned your fitness with either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While true that muscle burns more calories at rest and that a more heavier , more muscular person needs more calories than a lighter , thinner person I think most slashdotters are overestimating the effects .
I mean the little hulk kid is growing too .
All toddlers eat like little monsters .
Anyway , a pound of muscle at rest burns 35 to 50 calories a day , so up to 500 calories for ten pounds of new muscle per day .
So lets do some quick math .
The average American male is made up of about 42 \ % skeletal muscle , which at 185 lbs that is roughly 75 pounds of muscle .
If you increase the muscle mass by 40 \ % ( Yes , I RTFA ) that is about 30 lbs of new muscle .
Pretty awesome when you think about it , but that still only burns an extra 1500 calories a day max .
Most Americans overeat that amount anyway .
I do n't think anyone would be starving , they would just be harder and fitter .
A big mac has over 500 calories to put that into perspective.I think a more interesting question is what do you do if this is readily available , cheap and easy to use ?
Would you do it ?
What if you are an active amateur cyclist working your way up the local ranks ?
They guys are gon na love you coming in with your extra 30 lbs of muscle and storm by them up the local hill .
Do we start over with all the record books ?
This is n't exactly roids but it is n't exactly a tough training plan that you earned your fitness with either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While true that muscle burns more calories at rest and that a more heavier, more muscular person needs more calories than a lighter, thinner person I think most slashdotters are overestimating the effects.
I mean the little hulk kid is growing too.
All toddlers eat like little monsters.
Anyway, a pound of muscle at rest burns 35 to 50 calories a day, so up to 500 calories for ten pounds of new muscle per day.
So lets do some quick math.
The average American male is made up of about 42\% skeletal muscle, which at 185 lbs that is roughly 75 pounds of muscle.
If you increase the muscle mass by 40\% (Yes, I RTFA) that is about 30 lbs of new muscle.
Pretty awesome when you think about it, but that still only burns an extra 1500 calories a day max.
Most Americans overeat that amount anyway.
I don't think anyone would be starving, they would just be harder and fitter.
A big mac has over 500 calories to put that into perspective.I think a more interesting question is what do you do if this is readily available, cheap and easy to use?
Would you do it?
What if you are an active amateur cyclist working your way up the local ranks?
They guys are gonna love you coming in with your extra 30 lbs of muscle and storm by them up the local hill.
Do we start over with all the record books?
This isn't exactly roids but it isn't exactly a tough training plan that you earned your fitness with either.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30386502</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>RivenAleem</author>
	<datestamp>1260446580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Combine this with <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/06/060243" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/06/060243</a> [slashdot.org] and we'll have some interesting results.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Combine this with http : //science.slashdot.org/article.pl ? sid = 09/12/06/060243 [ slashdot.org ] and we 'll have some interesting results .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Combine this with http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/06/060243 [slashdot.org] and we'll have some interesting results.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373150</id>
	<title>I'll wait...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260283320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>... until the joint and bone strengthening pills are also available.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... until the joint and bone strengthening pills are also available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... until the joint and bone strengthening pills are also available.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375288</id>
	<title>Re:I hope it never becomes available to normal peo</title>
	<author>Anti\_Climax</author>
	<datestamp>1259576640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Maybe I'm being too critical, but my opinion boils down to this: If you work hard at something, you deserve to reap the benefits. If you do not work hard at something, you deserve nothing.</p></div></blockquote><p>So because you've done something the hard way, others shouldn't be able to do it the easy way when that becomes possible? How about you start using this if/when it becomes available to normal people and stop working harder than you already are to get the same results?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe I 'm being too critical , but my opinion boils down to this : If you work hard at something , you deserve to reap the benefits .
If you do not work hard at something , you deserve nothing.So because you 've done something the hard way , others should n't be able to do it the easy way when that becomes possible ?
How about you start using this if/when it becomes available to normal people and stop working harder than you already are to get the same results ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe I'm being too critical, but my opinion boils down to this: If you work hard at something, you deserve to reap the benefits.
If you do not work hard at something, you deserve nothing.So because you've done something the hard way, others shouldn't be able to do it the easy way when that becomes possible?
How about you start using this if/when it becomes available to normal people and stop working harder than you already are to get the same results?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374800</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Stoutlimb</author>
	<datestamp>1259611500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"develop some massive jaw and tongue muscles...."</p><p>Lets hope she knows her own strength...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" develop some massive jaw and tongue muscles.... " Lets hope she knows her own strength.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"develop some massive jaw and tongue muscles...."Lets hope she knows her own strength...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372564</id>
	<title>Re:Um, there are not-unforseen problems</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1260278580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>And you thought you had problems with bullies stealing your lunch money before!</htmltext>
<tokenext>And you thought you had problems with bullies stealing your lunch money before !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And you thought you had problems with bullies stealing your lunch money before!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372394</id>
	<title>No.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260277740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>No. It will be used clinically for people who have muscle growth problems. For athletes, it will remain a banned substance.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
It will be used clinically for people who have muscle growth problems .
For athletes , it will remain a banned substance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
It will be used clinically for people who have muscle growth problems.
For athletes, it will remain a banned substance.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373780</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>slyn</author>
	<datestamp>1260289320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Those already exist, just google "belgium cows".</p><p>Conceptually the thing as the kid, cows born without the gene so they basically are giant masses of muscle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Those already exist , just google " belgium cows " .Conceptually the thing as the kid , cows born without the gene so they basically are giant masses of muscle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those already exist, just google "belgium cows".Conceptually the thing as the kid, cows born without the gene so they basically are giant masses of muscle.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373216</id>
	<title>Re:Super Soldiers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260283860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bones, tendons and ligaments...</p><p>Need to be beefed up too. Sure in an athlete these tissues 'step up' and get tougher.  But theres a finite limit then you start to have muscles that out do the rest of the machine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bones , tendons and ligaments...Need to be beefed up too .
Sure in an athlete these tissues 'step up ' and get tougher .
But theres a finite limit then you start to have muscles that out do the rest of the machine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bones, tendons and ligaments...Need to be beefed up too.
Sure in an athlete these tissues 'step up' and get tougher.
But theres a finite limit then you start to have muscles that out do the rest of the machine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372650</id>
	<title>Re:Um, there are not-unforseen problems</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260279180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We have a world food distribution/shortage problem as it is. Imagine SUPER STRONG STARVING Humans.</p><p> <a href="http://www.ashtreehill.com/the-hungry.html" title="ashtreehill.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ashtreehill.com/the-hungry.html</a> [ashtreehill.com] </p></div><p>*We* do? Citation needed. Definition of "we" needed. I don't have a food shortage. No one I personally know does either. Crazy homeless people don't count. Why? Because of that little theory called "evolution." Natural selection should kill you off if you are too stupid to obtain food, or too stupid to follow the heard, or too stupid to cultivate crops. I doubt we would have a food shortage if all you evil bastards stopped donating to starving kids in Africa charities.</p><p>Look people, they had their chance just like ever single other lineage. They grew incapable of sustaining their own lives, the burden is not on us to keep them alive, and THAT is what is causing a food shortage. If they are incapable of obtaining food (through hunting, gathering, or you know, CROP CULTIVATION) they should all starve to death so the rest of us have more resources.</p><p>It's disgusting to see people actual donate to the starving kids in Africa funds because it allows those specific Africans to continue living off handouts in disease infested squalor, rather than migrating to an area capable of sustaining their very own lives. Shame on you charity corporations for preserving and perpetuating human suffering.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We have a world food distribution/shortage problem as it is .
Imagine SUPER STRONG STARVING Humans .
http : //www.ashtreehill.com/the-hungry.html [ ashtreehill.com ] * We * do ?
Citation needed .
Definition of " we " needed .
I do n't have a food shortage .
No one I personally know does either .
Crazy homeless people do n't count .
Why ? Because of that little theory called " evolution .
" Natural selection should kill you off if you are too stupid to obtain food , or too stupid to follow the heard , or too stupid to cultivate crops .
I doubt we would have a food shortage if all you evil bastards stopped donating to starving kids in Africa charities.Look people , they had their chance just like ever single other lineage .
They grew incapable of sustaining their own lives , the burden is not on us to keep them alive , and THAT is what is causing a food shortage .
If they are incapable of obtaining food ( through hunting , gathering , or you know , CROP CULTIVATION ) they should all starve to death so the rest of us have more resources.It 's disgusting to see people actual donate to the starving kids in Africa funds because it allows those specific Africans to continue living off handouts in disease infested squalor , rather than migrating to an area capable of sustaining their very own lives .
Shame on you charity corporations for preserving and perpetuating human suffering .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have a world food distribution/shortage problem as it is.
Imagine SUPER STRONG STARVING Humans.
http://www.ashtreehill.com/the-hungry.html [ashtreehill.com] *We* do?
Citation needed.
Definition of "we" needed.
I don't have a food shortage.
No one I personally know does either.
Crazy homeless people don't count.
Why? Because of that little theory called "evolution.
" Natural selection should kill you off if you are too stupid to obtain food, or too stupid to follow the heard, or too stupid to cultivate crops.
I doubt we would have a food shortage if all you evil bastards stopped donating to starving kids in Africa charities.Look people, they had their chance just like ever single other lineage.
They grew incapable of sustaining their own lives, the burden is not on us to keep them alive, and THAT is what is causing a food shortage.
If they are incapable of obtaining food (through hunting, gathering, or you know, CROP CULTIVATION) they should all starve to death so the rest of us have more resources.It's disgusting to see people actual donate to the starving kids in Africa funds because it allows those specific Africans to continue living off handouts in disease infested squalor, rather than migrating to an area capable of sustaining their very own lives.
Shame on you charity corporations for preserving and perpetuating human suffering.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372348</id>
	<title>Now I'll never finish my fortress!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260277500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My dwarves are going to be 100\% more terrified when the monkeys have super strength!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My dwarves are going to be 100 \ % more terrified when the monkeys have super strength !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My dwarves are going to be 100\% more terrified when the monkeys have super strength!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374570</id>
	<title>Re:Super Soldiers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260299820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As has been stated before, this causes an increase in metabolism, and therefore caloric intake requirements, so the military wouldn't be interested in this problem. The increase in performance isn't worth the requirement for extra weight. Besides, current research into exoskeletons (such as the Sarcos XOS) and autonomous vehicles (such as Big Dog) have far more potential than this "super serum." A human, even a genetically enhanced human, can't compete with a hydraulic robot in terms of strength and stamina.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As has been stated before , this causes an increase in metabolism , and therefore caloric intake requirements , so the military would n't be interested in this problem .
The increase in performance is n't worth the requirement for extra weight .
Besides , current research into exoskeletons ( such as the Sarcos XOS ) and autonomous vehicles ( such as Big Dog ) have far more potential than this " super serum .
" A human , even a genetically enhanced human , ca n't compete with a hydraulic robot in terms of strength and stamina .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As has been stated before, this causes an increase in metabolism, and therefore caloric intake requirements, so the military wouldn't be interested in this problem.
The increase in performance isn't worth the requirement for extra weight.
Besides, current research into exoskeletons (such as the Sarcos XOS) and autonomous vehicles (such as Big Dog) have far more potential than this "super serum.
" A human, even a genetically enhanced human, can't compete with a hydraulic robot in terms of strength and stamina.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373538</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>jipn4</author>
	<datestamp>1260286800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Big muscles used to be considered undesirable, since they were an indication of low social status.  If it gets cheap and commonplace to get big muscles, they'll go out of fashion again.  Their value as a signal is that they require dedication, time, and resources.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Big muscles used to be considered undesirable , since they were an indication of low social status .
If it gets cheap and commonplace to get big muscles , they 'll go out of fashion again .
Their value as a signal is that they require dedication , time , and resources .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Big muscles used to be considered undesirable, since they were an indication of low social status.
If it gets cheap and commonplace to get big muscles, they'll go out of fashion again.
Their value as a signal is that they require dedication, time, and resources.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30377966</id>
	<title>Re:consequences</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259602440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Um, well the kid seems to be doing just fine.  And metabolism isn't an issue; just eat more.  Or if you don't, the worse that happens is you lose muscle until your system is in equilibrium for what you take in.</p><p>Why do you assume myostatin is "there for a reason?"  Have you considered that at one time we didn't have it?  Or perhaps that we have it is just a random fluke?</p><p>I hate to break it to you, but there's no intelligent design.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Um , well the kid seems to be doing just fine .
And metabolism is n't an issue ; just eat more .
Or if you do n't , the worse that happens is you lose muscle until your system is in equilibrium for what you take in.Why do you assume myostatin is " there for a reason ?
" Have you considered that at one time we did n't have it ?
Or perhaps that we have it is just a random fluke ? I hate to break it to you , but there 's no intelligent design .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um, well the kid seems to be doing just fine.
And metabolism isn't an issue; just eat more.
Or if you don't, the worse that happens is you lose muscle until your system is in equilibrium for what you take in.Why do you assume myostatin is "there for a reason?
"  Have you considered that at one time we didn't have it?
Or perhaps that we have it is just a random fluke?I hate to break it to you, but there's no intelligent design.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372674</id>
	<title>Space program application</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260279420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a major application for this research in space travel. One of the major issues with long duration space missions is muscle atrophy. This could provide assistance in maintaining muscle mass on trips to and from Mars, as well as long duration Moon missions. Not to mention the potential eventual colonization of said worlds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a major application for this research in space travel .
One of the major issues with long duration space missions is muscle atrophy .
This could provide assistance in maintaining muscle mass on trips to and from Mars , as well as long duration Moon missions .
Not to mention the potential eventual colonization of said worlds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a major application for this research in space travel.
One of the major issues with long duration space missions is muscle atrophy.
This could provide assistance in maintaining muscle mass on trips to and from Mars, as well as long duration Moon missions.
Not to mention the potential eventual colonization of said worlds.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373442</id>
	<title>Re:consequences</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260285720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Seems like there is probably a reason we have myostatin and if you disable it, other health problems may result.  We're just don't know what they are yet.</p><p>Further, it seems like the people most interested in taking this drug would be bodybuilders who already have a low body fat percentage...they have little fat to burn and now this reduces the ability to metabolize their muscle tissue.  I could foresee that a small medical problem involving the digestive tract could turn into a complete crisis if they cannot get the energy they need to fight an infection from their own tissues when they need it most.</p></div><p> I know someone who is experimenting with this for 8 weeks. He is stronger, thicker...no miracle yet. But he does have a digestive problem, for about 4 weeks off and on.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like there is probably a reason we have myostatin and if you disable it , other health problems may result .
We 're just do n't know what they are yet.Further , it seems like the people most interested in taking this drug would be bodybuilders who already have a low body fat percentage...they have little fat to burn and now this reduces the ability to metabolize their muscle tissue .
I could foresee that a small medical problem involving the digestive tract could turn into a complete crisis if they can not get the energy they need to fight an infection from their own tissues when they need it most .
I know someone who is experimenting with this for 8 weeks .
He is stronger , thicker...no miracle yet .
But he does have a digestive problem , for about 4 weeks off and on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like there is probably a reason we have myostatin and if you disable it, other health problems may result.
We're just don't know what they are yet.Further, it seems like the people most interested in taking this drug would be bodybuilders who already have a low body fat percentage...they have little fat to burn and now this reduces the ability to metabolize their muscle tissue.
I could foresee that a small medical problem involving the digestive tract could turn into a complete crisis if they cannot get the energy they need to fight an infection from their own tissues when they need it most.
I know someone who is experimenting with this for 8 weeks.
He is stronger, thicker...no miracle yet.
But he does have a digestive problem, for about 4 weeks off and on.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374992</id>
	<title>Re:Super Soldiers?</title>
	<author>WGFCrafty</author>
	<datestamp>1259571840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The nazis made this drug called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-IX" title="wikipedia.org">D-IX</a> [wikipedia.org] with similar intent.<p><div class="quote"><p>D-IX was a cocaine-based experimental drug cocktail developed by the Nazis in 1944 for military application.[1] Nazi doctors found that equipment-laden test subjects who had taken the drug could march 55 miles without resting before they collapsed. Each tablet contained 5 mg Oxycodone (brand name Eukodal), 5 mg of Cocaine and 3 mg of Methamphetamine (then called Pervitin).</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The nazis made this drug called D-IX [ wikipedia.org ] with similar intent.D-IX was a cocaine-based experimental drug cocktail developed by the Nazis in 1944 for military application .
[ 1 ] Nazi doctors found that equipment-laden test subjects who had taken the drug could march 55 miles without resting before they collapsed .
Each tablet contained 5 mg Oxycodone ( brand name Eukodal ) , 5 mg of Cocaine and 3 mg of Methamphetamine ( then called Pervitin ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The nazis made this drug called D-IX [wikipedia.org] with similar intent.D-IX was a cocaine-based experimental drug cocktail developed by the Nazis in 1944 for military application.
[1] Nazi doctors found that equipment-laden test subjects who had taken the drug could march 55 miles without resting before they collapsed.
Each tablet contained 5 mg Oxycodone (brand name Eukodal), 5 mg of Cocaine and 3 mg of Methamphetamine (then called Pervitin).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373890</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Jarik C-Bol</author>
	<datestamp>1260290700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>yes, you do. if you read the linked article about the kid, it says he eats a full meal almost every hour, without gaining any weight.</htmltext>
<tokenext>yes , you do .
if you read the linked article about the kid , it says he eats a full meal almost every hour , without gaining any weight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yes, you do.
if you read the linked article about the kid, it says he eats a full meal almost every hour, without gaining any weight.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374854</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Krneki</author>
	<datestamp>1259612340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is my reaction too.  Also, what is the cost of having to maintain all these muscles?  Do you have to eat more than the normal person?  Do you lose all your fine motor control?</p><p>The human is the best animal in the brain department.  Why don't they try to improve what we're good at?  Why compete with the Gorilla?</p></div><p>Only if you want to be like Hulk. </p><p>

You know, you could just take the right amount and be a fit person without the need to do exercise. Ok, you steel need to exercise, but you know what I mean.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is my reaction too .
Also , what is the cost of having to maintain all these muscles ?
Do you have to eat more than the normal person ?
Do you lose all your fine motor control ? The human is the best animal in the brain department .
Why do n't they try to improve what we 're good at ?
Why compete with the Gorilla ? Only if you want to be like Hulk .
You know , you could just take the right amount and be a fit person without the need to do exercise .
Ok , you steel need to exercise , but you know what I mean .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is my reaction too.
Also, what is the cost of having to maintain all these muscles?
Do you have to eat more than the normal person?
Do you lose all your fine motor control?The human is the best animal in the brain department.
Why don't they try to improve what we're good at?
Why compete with the Gorilla?Only if you want to be like Hulk.
You know, you could just take the right amount and be a fit person without the need to do exercise.
Ok, you steel need to exercise, but you know what I mean.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373558</id>
	<title>Of intense interest.</title>
	<author>Hasai</author>
	<datestamp>1260286980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My career in the Army left me with a damaged back and knees, making it difficult for me to engage in meaningful exercise (or even stand for more than fifteen minutes). Among other complications, like joint stability, this also leave me fighting to control my weight.</p><p>Anything that can give me a leg-up on overcoming these problems would be welcome.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My career in the Army left me with a damaged back and knees , making it difficult for me to engage in meaningful exercise ( or even stand for more than fifteen minutes ) .
Among other complications , like joint stability , this also leave me fighting to control my weight.Anything that can give me a leg-up on overcoming these problems would be welcome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My career in the Army left me with a damaged back and knees, making it difficult for me to engage in meaningful exercise (or even stand for more than fifteen minutes).
Among other complications, like joint stability, this also leave me fighting to control my weight.Anything that can give me a leg-up on overcoming these problems would be welcome.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30377402</id>
	<title>Re:Fastest way to burn calories is to gain musclem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259599260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Works for me!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Works for me !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Works for me!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372490</id>
	<title>~80\% Increase</title>
	<author>jesusfr3Ak</author>
	<datestamp>1260278160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext> Imagine being able to go from 100 kilos to 180 - a pretty significant gain. I don't see how the likes of the Army or Marines could pass something like this up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine being able to go from 100 kilos to 180 - a pretty significant gain .
I do n't see how the likes of the Army or Marines could pass something like this up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Imagine being able to go from 100 kilos to 180 - a pretty significant gain.
I don't see how the likes of the Army or Marines could pass something like this up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372846</id>
	<title>Ahhhh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260280860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So this is what kicks off the Zombie Apocalypse...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So this is what kicks off the Zombie Apocalypse.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So this is what kicks off the Zombie Apocalypse...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373146</id>
	<title>Most obvious questions...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260283320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can they test for this stuff? Have they tested the Yankees for this stuff?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can they test for this stuff ?
Have they tested the Yankees for this stuff ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can they test for this stuff?
Have they tested the Yankees for this stuff?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372448</id>
	<title>Helpful for the Obese...</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1260277980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of the problems with wanting to lose weight is by the time you become a large tub, you no longer have enough muscle to move around and exercise.   Now you can take this drug, have enough power to start working out and not feel like you are dying when you are starting out, which may increase the positive feedback effect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the problems with wanting to lose weight is by the time you become a large tub , you no longer have enough muscle to move around and exercise .
Now you can take this drug , have enough power to start working out and not feel like you are dying when you are starting out , which may increase the positive feedback effect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the problems with wanting to lose weight is by the time you become a large tub, you no longer have enough muscle to move around and exercise.
Now you can take this drug, have enough power to start working out and not feel like you are dying when you are starting out, which may increase the positive feedback effect.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372994</id>
	<title>What's the bet if this thing passes it becomes..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260281820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's the bet if this thing passes it becomes standard issue in military forces?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the bet if this thing passes it becomes standard issue in military forces ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the bet if this thing passes it becomes standard issue in military forces?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30378970</id>
	<title>Re:Help for the Elderly?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259607780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Great.  Instead of gruffly telling people to get off their lawns, super-strong oldsters will just hurl them halfway down the block.  Please, won't someone think of the young adults!</p><p>- T</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Great .
Instead of gruffly telling people to get off their lawns , super-strong oldsters will just hurl them halfway down the block .
Please , wo n't someone think of the young adults ! - T</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great.
Instead of gruffly telling people to get off their lawns, super-strong oldsters will just hurl them halfway down the block.
Please, won't someone think of the young adults!- T</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372638</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372526</id>
	<title>Missing the point</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260278400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The odds are against general use of the treatment in humans. What about domestic animals though?  40 to 60lb turkeys or 2,500lb cattle. Chickens the size of turkeys? Anything to squeeze another buck out of domestic livestock.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The odds are against general use of the treatment in humans .
What about domestic animals though ?
40 to 60lb turkeys or 2,500lb cattle .
Chickens the size of turkeys ?
Anything to squeeze another buck out of domestic livestock .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The odds are against general use of the treatment in humans.
What about domestic animals though?
40 to 60lb turkeys or 2,500lb cattle.
Chickens the size of turkeys?
Anything to squeeze another buck out of domestic livestock.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30376094</id>
	<title>Re:I hope it never becomes available to normal peo</title>
	<author>Sage Gaspar</author>
	<datestamp>1259589180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's hundreds of machines, technologies, chemicals and medicines you implicitly rely on every day to save what required backbreaking labor in centuries past. I'm sure no pill is going to be able to completely replace exercise anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's hundreds of machines , technologies , chemicals and medicines you implicitly rely on every day to save what required backbreaking labor in centuries past .
I 'm sure no pill is going to be able to completely replace exercise anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's hundreds of machines, technologies, chemicals and medicines you implicitly rely on every day to save what required backbreaking labor in centuries past.
I'm sure no pill is going to be able to completely replace exercise anyway.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374628</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372444</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Conspiracy\_Of\_Doves</author>
	<datestamp>1260277980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We would need to eat a lot more than the normal human needs to.</p><p>The diet of the average American should just about cover it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We would need to eat a lot more than the normal human needs to.The diet of the average American should just about cover it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We would need to eat a lot more than the normal human needs to.The diet of the average American should just about cover it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372372</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374622</id>
	<title>Re:Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>Merls the Sneaky</author>
	<datestamp>1260300480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Soylent green ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Soylent green ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Soylent green ?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372594</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375380</id>
	<title>Re:Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>Thanshin</author>
	<datestamp>1259578260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's only a matter of time.</p><p>"Choose your breast size" could've been seen as some impossibly expensive operation in the past; right now there are girls getting tits as their 16th birthday present in non-rich countries.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's only a matter of time .
" Choose your breast size " could 've been seen as some impossibly expensive operation in the past ; right now there are girls getting tits as their 16th birthday present in non-rich countries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's only a matter of time.
"Choose your breast size" could've been seen as some impossibly expensive operation in the past; right now there are girls getting tits as their 16th birthday present in non-rich countries.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374792</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30375106</id>
	<title>Re:Help for the Elderly?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259573520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Diminishing bone mass is even more of a problem - super-strong muscles and super-weak bones - what could possibly go wrong?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Diminishing bone mass is even more of a problem - super-strong muscles and super-weak bones - what could possibly go wrong ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Diminishing bone mass is even more of a problem - super-strong muscles and super-weak bones - what could possibly go wrong?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372638</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374034</id>
	<title>Re:No.</title>
	<author>BiggerIsBetter</author>
	<datestamp>1260292200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No. It will be used clinically for people who have muscle growth problems. For athletes, it will remain a banned substance.</p></div><p>So, as a non-athlete, where can I buy some?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
It will be used clinically for people who have muscle growth problems .
For athletes , it will remain a banned substance.So , as a non-athlete , where can I buy some ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
It will be used clinically for people who have muscle growth problems.
For athletes, it will remain a banned substance.So, as a non-athlete, where can I buy some?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372394</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30374090</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious (?) question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260293160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"Disclaimer: I am married, so my arms would remain the same, but my wife would (through associated absorption) develop some massive jaw and tongue muscles......"</i> <p>
Yeah, but don't get her <b>angry</b> at you, she'll just wait for the moment, and get a death grip on you with her super human pussy muscles...and then what are you gonna do?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Disclaimer : I am married , so my arms would remain the same , but my wife would ( through associated absorption ) develop some massive jaw and tongue muscles...... " Yeah , but do n't get her angry at you , she 'll just wait for the moment , and get a death grip on you with her super human pussy muscles...and then what are you gon na do ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Disclaimer: I am married, so my arms would remain the same, but my wife would (through associated absorption) develop some massive jaw and tongue muscles......" 
Yeah, but don't get her angry at you, she'll just wait for the moment, and get a death grip on you with her super human pussy muscles...and then what are you gonna do?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30373048</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372376</id>
	<title>Re:Classic Super Villain Birth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260277620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Vee!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vee !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vee!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_08_2143212.30372270</parent>
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