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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_07_0618232</id>
	<title>Barnes &amp; Noble's Nook, Reviewed</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1260184680000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>harrymcc writes <i>"Barnes &amp; Noble's Nook &mdash; the most significant e-reader since Amazon's original Kindle &mdash; hits B&amp;N's retail stores today. I've published an <a href="http://technologizer.com/2009/12/06/nook-review/">extensive review of the device</a>, which is also the first e-reader to run Google's Android OS: It's an interesting and capable gadget in many ways, but the interface &mdash;  which is sluggish and somewhat quirky &mdash; isn't polished enough to render it a Kindle killer."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>harrymcc writes " Barnes &amp; Noble 's Nook    the most significant e-reader since Amazon 's original Kindle    hits B&amp;N 's retail stores today .
I 've published an extensive review of the device , which is also the first e-reader to run Google 's Android OS : It 's an interesting and capable gadget in many ways , but the interface    which is sluggish and somewhat quirky    is n't polished enough to render it a Kindle killer .
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<sentencetext>harrymcc writes "Barnes &amp; Noble's Nook — the most significant e-reader since Amazon's original Kindle — hits B&amp;N's retail stores today.
I've published an extensive review of the device, which is also the first e-reader to run Google's Android OS: It's an interesting and capable gadget in many ways, but the interface —  which is sluggish and somewhat quirky — isn't polished enough to render it a Kindle killer.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351206</id>
	<title>WiFi</title>
	<author>Gopal.V</author>
	<datestamp>1260188880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Speaking as someone not living in the US<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and hence out of the AT&amp;T whispernet, the fact that this can work over WiFi is a huge plus.
</p><p>
I'd totally pay 250 US for it, just for kicks. Especially if they'd publish something like a bird watcher's guide, which where I really miss having a ton of searchable content, but without the bulk to carry around.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Speaking as someone not living in the US ... and hence out of the AT&amp;T whispernet , the fact that this can work over WiFi is a huge plus .
I 'd totally pay 250 US for it , just for kicks .
Especially if they 'd publish something like a bird watcher 's guide , which where I really miss having a ton of searchable content , but without the bulk to carry around .</tokentext>
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Speaking as someone not living in the US ... and hence out of the AT&amp;T whispernet, the fact that this can work over WiFi is a huge plus.
I'd totally pay 250 US for it, just for kicks.
Especially if they'd publish something like a bird watcher's guide, which where I really miss having a ton of searchable content, but without the bulk to carry around.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351738</id>
	<title>Re:To beat Kindle you need better policy</title>
	<author>JohnBailey</author>
	<datestamp>1260195480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Perhaps it is my slashdot bias, but the story about Kindles having books removed from readers' machines still strikes a sour chord with me. I recognize that most consumers don't know a thing about and many don't care. I don't see much difference between book burning and book deleting. To me the reasons, are irrelevant. Abuse will always emerge when opportunity is given.</p></div><p>Don't be so sure the public are blissfully ignorant. I'm pretty sure it made mainstream press. Plus, this isn't exactly the kind of thing you get as an impulse buy, so people will look into it a bit more closely.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Perhaps it is my slashdot bias , but the story about Kindles having books removed from readers ' machines still strikes a sour chord with me .
I recognize that most consumers do n't know a thing about and many do n't care .
I do n't see much difference between book burning and book deleting .
To me the reasons , are irrelevant .
Abuse will always emerge when opportunity is given.Do n't be so sure the public are blissfully ignorant .
I 'm pretty sure it made mainstream press .
Plus , this is n't exactly the kind of thing you get as an impulse buy , so people will look into it a bit more closely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps it is my slashdot bias, but the story about Kindles having books removed from readers' machines still strikes a sour chord with me.
I recognize that most consumers don't know a thing about and many don't care.
I don't see much difference between book burning and book deleting.
To me the reasons, are irrelevant.
Abuse will always emerge when opportunity is given.Don't be so sure the public are blissfully ignorant.
I'm pretty sure it made mainstream press.
Plus, this isn't exactly the kind of thing you get as an impulse buy, so people will look into it a bit more closely.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353496</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy either?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260203640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A battery life measured in days not hours pretty much blows the netbook out of the water.<br>Also the screen is nicer to read, though I personally don't have a problem reading a netbook screen.<br>Nicer to hold while reading.</p><p>But seriously?  Don't worry about it.  Maybe an e-book reader isn't for you.  Tons of people think they are worthwhile,<br>enough that B&amp;N weren't able to meet all their pre-sales before christmas.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A battery life measured in days not hours pretty much blows the netbook out of the water.Also the screen is nicer to read , though I personally do n't have a problem reading a netbook screen.Nicer to hold while reading.But seriously ?
Do n't worry about it .
Maybe an e-book reader is n't for you .
Tons of people think they are worthwhile,enough that B&amp;N were n't able to meet all their pre-sales before christmas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A battery life measured in days not hours pretty much blows the netbook out of the water.Also the screen is nicer to read, though I personally don't have a problem reading a netbook screen.Nicer to hold while reading.But seriously?
Don't worry about it.
Maybe an e-book reader isn't for you.
Tons of people think they are worthwhile,enough that B&amp;N weren't able to meet all their pre-sales before christmas.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30355726</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy either?</title>
	<author>DrRiAdGeOrN</author>
	<datestamp>1260213480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cause when I'm at Disney waiting in line for a ride or bus, its easier to carry, lighter and I can put it in a ziplock bag that holds the reader, cellphone and wallet if it rains.  All while fitting in a cargo pocket of my pants/shorts.  Oh, and it works for days and only needs a usb cable to charge, like the one on my cell phone.  Netbook/laptop means an extra PSU.  Works better on the airplane as well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cause when I 'm at Disney waiting in line for a ride or bus , its easier to carry , lighter and I can put it in a ziplock bag that holds the reader , cellphone and wallet if it rains .
All while fitting in a cargo pocket of my pants/shorts .
Oh , and it works for days and only needs a usb cable to charge , like the one on my cell phone .
Netbook/laptop means an extra PSU .
Works better on the airplane as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cause when I'm at Disney waiting in line for a ride or bus, its easier to carry, lighter and I can put it in a ziplock bag that holds the reader, cellphone and wallet if it rains.
All while fitting in a cargo pocket of my pants/shorts.
Oh, and it works for days and only needs a usb cable to charge, like the one on my cell phone.
Netbook/laptop means an extra PSU.
Works better on the airplane as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353754</id>
	<title>E-books are simply not economical</title>
	<author>NetherNihilist</author>
	<datestamp>1260204900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Everyone talks about the hardware, Nook vs Kindle. Am I the only one thinking that it's the books that are important, not the reader? Let's face it, as an actual e-book reader the Nook and Kindle are almost identical and unfortunately that similarity extends into the realm of book pricing.
<br> <br>
I only buy paperbacks, hardcovers are insanely expensive, harder to read and require two hands to hold, etc, etc...mass market paperbacks are $7.99. E-books are $6.39 which is a miserly 20\% off. There are no printing costs, publishing costs, duplication costs, no incremental costs whatsoever for e-books, so why only a minuscule 20\% discount? Both the Nook and Kindle are $259. If I save $1.60 per book I would have to buy 162 e-books just to recoup the cost of the reader (259/1.6). That's simply a foolish economic decision unless you want to buy hundreds of books.
<br> <br>
With no bulk discounts, or free e-books with the purchase of a physical book or the abiliy to get free e-books for physical books that you've previously purchased, e-books are a very poor investment. That's not even getting into issues of format portability, when the Nook 2 comes out will PDB formatted e-books still be supported? What about e-pub?
<br> <br>
For me, until there's a standardized e-book format and the books accurately reflect publishing costs (I.E. e-books are next to nothing in price because that's what they cost to make) this whole argument over readers is pointless.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone talks about the hardware , Nook vs Kindle .
Am I the only one thinking that it 's the books that are important , not the reader ?
Let 's face it , as an actual e-book reader the Nook and Kindle are almost identical and unfortunately that similarity extends into the realm of book pricing .
I only buy paperbacks , hardcovers are insanely expensive , harder to read and require two hands to hold , etc , etc...mass market paperbacks are $ 7.99 .
E-books are $ 6.39 which is a miserly 20 \ % off .
There are no printing costs , publishing costs , duplication costs , no incremental costs whatsoever for e-books , so why only a minuscule 20 \ % discount ?
Both the Nook and Kindle are $ 259 .
If I save $ 1.60 per book I would have to buy 162 e-books just to recoup the cost of the reader ( 259/1.6 ) .
That 's simply a foolish economic decision unless you want to buy hundreds of books .
With no bulk discounts , or free e-books with the purchase of a physical book or the abiliy to get free e-books for physical books that you 've previously purchased , e-books are a very poor investment .
That 's not even getting into issues of format portability , when the Nook 2 comes out will PDB formatted e-books still be supported ?
What about e-pub ?
For me , until there 's a standardized e-book format and the books accurately reflect publishing costs ( I.E .
e-books are next to nothing in price because that 's what they cost to make ) this whole argument over readers is pointless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone talks about the hardware, Nook vs Kindle.
Am I the only one thinking that it's the books that are important, not the reader?
Let's face it, as an actual e-book reader the Nook and Kindle are almost identical and unfortunately that similarity extends into the realm of book pricing.
I only buy paperbacks, hardcovers are insanely expensive, harder to read and require two hands to hold, etc, etc...mass market paperbacks are $7.99.
E-books are $6.39 which is a miserly 20\% off.
There are no printing costs, publishing costs, duplication costs, no incremental costs whatsoever for e-books, so why only a minuscule 20\% discount?
Both the Nook and Kindle are $259.
If I save $1.60 per book I would have to buy 162 e-books just to recoup the cost of the reader (259/1.6).
That's simply a foolish economic decision unless you want to buy hundreds of books.
With no bulk discounts, or free e-books with the purchase of a physical book or the abiliy to get free e-books for physical books that you've previously purchased, e-books are a very poor investment.
That's not even getting into issues of format portability, when the Nook 2 comes out will PDB formatted e-books still be supported?
What about e-pub?
For me, until there's a standardized e-book format and the books accurately reflect publishing costs (I.E.
e-books are next to nothing in price because that's what they cost to make) this whole argument over readers is pointless.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351904</id>
	<title>Re:While it may not be a "Kindle Killer"...</title>
	<author>zaq1xsw2cde9</author>
	<datestamp>1260196320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Kindle DX (which is the one you would want for larger books like RPG manuals) has always had PDF support.  A patch was release 2 weeks ago that put PDF support into the Kindle 2 as well.  My guess is that was a direct response to the Nook.
<br> <br>
I realize I am being a Kindle fanboy today.  I just use my Kindle everyday and enjoy it, so I was keeping the info out there for you guys.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Kindle DX ( which is the one you would want for larger books like RPG manuals ) has always had PDF support .
A patch was release 2 weeks ago that put PDF support into the Kindle 2 as well .
My guess is that was a direct response to the Nook .
I realize I am being a Kindle fanboy today .
I just use my Kindle everyday and enjoy it , so I was keeping the info out there for you guys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Kindle DX (which is the one you would want for larger books like RPG manuals) has always had PDF support.
A patch was release 2 weeks ago that put PDF support into the Kindle 2 as well.
My guess is that was a direct response to the Nook.
I realize I am being a Kindle fanboy today.
I just use my Kindle everyday and enjoy it, so I was keeping the info out there for you guys.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352758</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy either?</title>
	<author>Lifyre</author>
	<datestamp>1260200220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No back light.  It is easier on the eyes than a netbook screen, no eye strain or anything, and the battery lasts for days (I recharge about twice a month and read on it every day) not hours.  The form factor varies but my PRS-505 if roughly the size of a VERY thin paperback.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No back light .
It is easier on the eyes than a netbook screen , no eye strain or anything , and the battery lasts for days ( I recharge about twice a month and read on it every day ) not hours .
The form factor varies but my PRS-505 if roughly the size of a VERY thin paperback .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No back light.
It is easier on the eyes than a netbook screen, no eye strain or anything, and the battery lasts for days (I recharge about twice a month and read on it every day) not hours.
The form factor varies but my PRS-505 if roughly the size of a VERY thin paperback.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351672</id>
	<title>Re:wtb more booklike reader</title>
	<author>peater</author>
	<datestamp>1260195060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>
While I agree that an ebook reader can't compete with the soft touch and feel of a book yet, you really ought to try one. I've got a Sony Reader and its really not all that bad. The absence of backlighting makes it really easy on the eye, I charge the battery once in a couple of weeks -- admittedly I don't spend TOO much time reading -- but yes the battery life is reasonably long and the reader comes with a soft cover so you can hold it like a book although it still has one screen (yes the cover protects the screen as well).<br> <br>
What I like about e-readers is that I can read multiple books in parallel -- depending on my mood, I just pick one and continue where I left off and switch to something else when I get bored (ADD?).  The one thing I'm missing with my reader (its an older model) is a built-in dictionary which I believe Kindle and Nook both have. The newer versions of the Sony Reader have them too along with note taking features. But yeah, its quite a nice gadget and I've done hours of fun reading on it. If you can get your hands on one (borrow?) for a short while, give it a shot. Takes a getting used to but you might be pleasantly surprised.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While I agree that an ebook reader ca n't compete with the soft touch and feel of a book yet , you really ought to try one .
I 've got a Sony Reader and its really not all that bad .
The absence of backlighting makes it really easy on the eye , I charge the battery once in a couple of weeks -- admittedly I do n't spend TOO much time reading -- but yes the battery life is reasonably long and the reader comes with a soft cover so you can hold it like a book although it still has one screen ( yes the cover protects the screen as well ) .
What I like about e-readers is that I can read multiple books in parallel -- depending on my mood , I just pick one and continue where I left off and switch to something else when I get bored ( ADD ? ) .
The one thing I 'm missing with my reader ( its an older model ) is a built-in dictionary which I believe Kindle and Nook both have .
The newer versions of the Sony Reader have them too along with note taking features .
But yeah , its quite a nice gadget and I 've done hours of fun reading on it .
If you can get your hands on one ( borrow ?
) for a short while , give it a shot .
Takes a getting used to but you might be pleasantly surprised .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
While I agree that an ebook reader can't compete with the soft touch and feel of a book yet, you really ought to try one.
I've got a Sony Reader and its really not all that bad.
The absence of backlighting makes it really easy on the eye, I charge the battery once in a couple of weeks -- admittedly I don't spend TOO much time reading -- but yes the battery life is reasonably long and the reader comes with a soft cover so you can hold it like a book although it still has one screen (yes the cover protects the screen as well).
What I like about e-readers is that I can read multiple books in parallel -- depending on my mood, I just pick one and continue where I left off and switch to something else when I get bored (ADD?).
The one thing I'm missing with my reader (its an older model) is a built-in dictionary which I believe Kindle and Nook both have.
The newer versions of the Sony Reader have them too along with note taking features.
But yeah, its quite a nice gadget and I've done hours of fun reading on it.
If you can get your hands on one (borrow?
) for a short while, give it a shot.
Takes a getting used to but you might be pleasantly surprised.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30357838</id>
	<title>Re:wtb more booklike reader</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1260180780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Different strokes / different folks, I realize, but by way of contrast: I have some other objections to most eBook readers (which I feel getting worn away by interest / curiosity / gadget lust), but I really like that the trend so far is for *single*-screen devices. I like to read books, but I also like to eat or drink while I'm reading. There are all sorts of contrivances for keeping books open and angled at a table, and there are some chairs where it's not too hard, but I've spilled a lot of drinks / dropped a lot of crumbs because I was using one hand to hold the book open and one hand for the food -- I think this would be a lot simpler  to avoid with a one-screen device, esp. with a simple angled stand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Different strokes / different folks , I realize , but by way of contrast : I have some other objections to most eBook readers ( which I feel getting worn away by interest / curiosity / gadget lust ) , but I really like that the trend so far is for * single * -screen devices .
I like to read books , but I also like to eat or drink while I 'm reading .
There are all sorts of contrivances for keeping books open and angled at a table , and there are some chairs where it 's not too hard , but I 've spilled a lot of drinks / dropped a lot of crumbs because I was using one hand to hold the book open and one hand for the food -- I think this would be a lot simpler to avoid with a one-screen device , esp .
with a simple angled stand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Different strokes / different folks, I realize, but by way of contrast: I have some other objections to most eBook readers (which I feel getting worn away by interest / curiosity / gadget lust), but I really like that the trend so far is for *single*-screen devices.
I like to read books, but I also like to eat or drink while I'm reading.
There are all sorts of contrivances for keeping books open and angled at a table, and there are some chairs where it's not too hard, but I've spilled a lot of drinks / dropped a lot of crumbs because I was using one hand to hold the book open and one hand for the food -- I think this would be a lot simpler  to avoid with a one-screen device, esp.
with a simple angled stand.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30354992</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Need a Kindle Killer, Exactly</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1260209880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From what I've read of the Nook, the situation is EXACTLY like it was in the earlier days of the MP3 player, and particularly the iPod.</p><p>You can read any ePub book on the Nook... as long as it's not DRMed... just like the iPod and every other MP3 plays unDRMed MP3 files. It also supports PDB and PDF, after a fashion (fully page PDF is generally unreadable on today's relatively low-rez eBook readers). But it also reads DRMed ePub or PRC.</p><p>For reference, the very first iPods played non-DRMed MP3s... that was never the problem. They also played non-DRMed AAC.</p><p>The problem was that most of the commercially available content was only on AAC files protected with Apple's proprietary DRM. Which is also just the situation today in eBooks. The thing about ePub... it lets any old DRM live inside it. There's a more or less standard DRM from Adobe, and supposedly, the Nook support this... this is also the one used in Sony readers (along with Sony's own proprietary format). But there's also the proprietary B&amp;N DRM, which is based on the Adobe DRM but different in some ways, supposedly. The big problem is that B&amp;N content will presumably only be released in this proprietary format... so it's only readable on the Nook (and whatever PC or PDA based readers B&amp;N decides to release). And some other eBook readers that have content agreements with B&amp;N.</p><p>This is similar to what Amazon did with the Kindle. Their AZW format is a customized version of the Mobipocket file format. The Kindle can read AZW, or unprotected Mobipocket books (MOBI, PRC). Oh yeah, and plain old text files. Thus, while you can read a number of free books, anything commerically available is going to be Kindle only right now, in both directions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From what I 've read of the Nook , the situation is EXACTLY like it was in the earlier days of the MP3 player , and particularly the iPod.You can read any ePub book on the Nook... as long as it 's not DRMed... just like the iPod and every other MP3 plays unDRMed MP3 files .
It also supports PDB and PDF , after a fashion ( fully page PDF is generally unreadable on today 's relatively low-rez eBook readers ) .
But it also reads DRMed ePub or PRC.For reference , the very first iPods played non-DRMed MP3s... that was never the problem .
They also played non-DRMed AAC.The problem was that most of the commercially available content was only on AAC files protected with Apple 's proprietary DRM .
Which is also just the situation today in eBooks .
The thing about ePub... it lets any old DRM live inside it .
There 's a more or less standard DRM from Adobe , and supposedly , the Nook support this... this is also the one used in Sony readers ( along with Sony 's own proprietary format ) .
But there 's also the proprietary B&amp;N DRM , which is based on the Adobe DRM but different in some ways , supposedly .
The big problem is that B&amp;N content will presumably only be released in this proprietary format... so it 's only readable on the Nook ( and whatever PC or PDA based readers B&amp;N decides to release ) .
And some other eBook readers that have content agreements with B&amp;N.This is similar to what Amazon did with the Kindle .
Their AZW format is a customized version of the Mobipocket file format .
The Kindle can read AZW , or unprotected Mobipocket books ( MOBI , PRC ) .
Oh yeah , and plain old text files .
Thus , while you can read a number of free books , anything commerically available is going to be Kindle only right now , in both directions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From what I've read of the Nook, the situation is EXACTLY like it was in the earlier days of the MP3 player, and particularly the iPod.You can read any ePub book on the Nook... as long as it's not DRMed... just like the iPod and every other MP3 plays unDRMed MP3 files.
It also supports PDB and PDF, after a fashion (fully page PDF is generally unreadable on today's relatively low-rez eBook readers).
But it also reads DRMed ePub or PRC.For reference, the very first iPods played non-DRMed MP3s... that was never the problem.
They also played non-DRMed AAC.The problem was that most of the commercially available content was only on AAC files protected with Apple's proprietary DRM.
Which is also just the situation today in eBooks.
The thing about ePub... it lets any old DRM live inside it.
There's a more or less standard DRM from Adobe, and supposedly, the Nook support this... this is also the one used in Sony readers (along with Sony's own proprietary format).
But there's also the proprietary B&amp;N DRM, which is based on the Adobe DRM but different in some ways, supposedly.
The big problem is that B&amp;N content will presumably only be released in this proprietary format... so it's only readable on the Nook (and whatever PC or PDA based readers B&amp;N decides to release).
And some other eBook readers that have content agreements with B&amp;N.This is similar to what Amazon did with the Kindle.
Their AZW format is a customized version of the Mobipocket file format.
The Kindle can read AZW, or unprotected Mobipocket books (MOBI, PRC).
Oh yeah, and plain old text files.
Thus, while you can read a number of free books, anything commerically available is going to be Kindle only right now, in both directions.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351402</id>
	<title>youG Fail it!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260191220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>is EFNet, and yOu OF AMERICA) today, 800 mhz machine myself. This isn't BoUght the farm....</htmltext>
<tokenext>is EFNet , and yOu OF AMERICA ) today , 800 mhz machine myself .
This is n't BoUght the farm... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is EFNet, and yOu OF AMERICA) today, 800 mhz machine myself.
This isn't BoUght the farm....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351956</id>
	<title>Re:Mandatory AT&amp;T contract?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260196560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The review mentions AT&amp;T 3G, but I couldn't find any mention of whether a new AT&amp;T contract is required to buy the device at the stated price. If it is, then fsck that. If it isn't, then 'meh'. Its still pretty expensive. Wait for v 2.0.</p></div><p>No new contract, no bills at all.  The 3G is free, just like the Kindle's.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Also, if one plugs its USB in, does it appear as 'USB storage', that one can copy PDF's to and be able to read them? Or is one required to use its proprietary software on a proprietary platform to load only special files with DRM?</p></div><p>No idea how it works with USB as I don't have one yet, but it does read SD cards...  So you could always just throw your files on an SD card to avoid whatever software they think you should be using.</p><p>It will read PDFs and EPUB documents - both of which are more open than what Barnes &amp; Noble is using now.  Barnes &amp; Noble has indicated that they plan to move their entire ebook store over to EPUB eventually.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>And how about on wifi? Can one use any sort of standard protocol (ssh, ftp, smb) to copy PDF's in (or out) and/or can it navigate to an arbitrary URL and download a PDF, or does it only support the device accessing company-specified websites to 'buy' books?</p></div><p>Again, I can't say because I don't have one yet...  But it sounds like the WiFi is fairly limited at the moment.  There is no web browser and I don't believe you can transfer anything wirelessly...  Except for maybe accessing the B&amp;N bookstore over WiFi.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Bottom line - Mandatory contract bad. Mandatory proprietary software bad.</p></div><p>The reason I chose a nook instead of a Kindle is the relative openness of the platform.  With the SD cards and support for PDF and EPUB format, I figure I can use this thing with basically any content I want - even stuff Barnes &amp; Noble doesn't sell or support.  And with the Wi-Fi I can probably maintain my connectivity even if B&amp;N kills the 3G for some reason.  And the user-replaceable battery means I don't have to go to great lengths just because the battery is old and flaky - unlike the Kindle.</p></div>
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<tokenext>The review mentions AT&amp;T 3G , but I could n't find any mention of whether a new AT&amp;T contract is required to buy the device at the stated price .
If it is , then fsck that .
If it is n't , then 'meh' .
Its still pretty expensive .
Wait for v 2.0.No new contract , no bills at all .
The 3G is free , just like the Kindle 's.Also , if one plugs its USB in , does it appear as 'USB storage ' , that one can copy PDF 's to and be able to read them ?
Or is one required to use its proprietary software on a proprietary platform to load only special files with DRM ? No idea how it works with USB as I do n't have one yet , but it does read SD cards... So you could always just throw your files on an SD card to avoid whatever software they think you should be using.It will read PDFs and EPUB documents - both of which are more open than what Barnes &amp; Noble is using now .
Barnes &amp; Noble has indicated that they plan to move their entire ebook store over to EPUB eventually.And how about on wifi ?
Can one use any sort of standard protocol ( ssh , ftp , smb ) to copy PDF 's in ( or out ) and/or can it navigate to an arbitrary URL and download a PDF , or does it only support the device accessing company-specified websites to 'buy ' books ? Again , I ca n't say because I do n't have one yet... But it sounds like the WiFi is fairly limited at the moment .
There is no web browser and I do n't believe you can transfer anything wirelessly... Except for maybe accessing the B&amp;N bookstore over WiFi.Bottom line - Mandatory contract bad .
Mandatory proprietary software bad.The reason I chose a nook instead of a Kindle is the relative openness of the platform .
With the SD cards and support for PDF and EPUB format , I figure I can use this thing with basically any content I want - even stuff Barnes &amp; Noble does n't sell or support .
And with the Wi-Fi I can probably maintain my connectivity even if B&amp;N kills the 3G for some reason .
And the user-replaceable battery means I do n't have to go to great lengths just because the battery is old and flaky - unlike the Kindle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The review mentions AT&amp;T 3G, but I couldn't find any mention of whether a new AT&amp;T contract is required to buy the device at the stated price.
If it is, then fsck that.
If it isn't, then 'meh'.
Its still pretty expensive.
Wait for v 2.0.No new contract, no bills at all.
The 3G is free, just like the Kindle's.Also, if one plugs its USB in, does it appear as 'USB storage', that one can copy PDF's to and be able to read them?
Or is one required to use its proprietary software on a proprietary platform to load only special files with DRM?No idea how it works with USB as I don't have one yet, but it does read SD cards...  So you could always just throw your files on an SD card to avoid whatever software they think you should be using.It will read PDFs and EPUB documents - both of which are more open than what Barnes &amp; Noble is using now.
Barnes &amp; Noble has indicated that they plan to move their entire ebook store over to EPUB eventually.And how about on wifi?
Can one use any sort of standard protocol (ssh, ftp, smb) to copy PDF's in (or out) and/or can it navigate to an arbitrary URL and download a PDF, or does it only support the device accessing company-specified websites to 'buy' books?Again, I can't say because I don't have one yet...  But it sounds like the WiFi is fairly limited at the moment.
There is no web browser and I don't believe you can transfer anything wirelessly...  Except for maybe accessing the B&amp;N bookstore over WiFi.Bottom line - Mandatory contract bad.
Mandatory proprietary software bad.The reason I chose a nook instead of a Kindle is the relative openness of the platform.
With the SD cards and support for PDF and EPUB format, I figure I can use this thing with basically any content I want - even stuff Barnes &amp; Noble doesn't sell or support.
And with the Wi-Fi I can probably maintain my connectivity even if B&amp;N kills the 3G for some reason.
And the user-replaceable battery means I don't have to go to great lengths just because the battery is old and flaky - unlike the Kindle.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352582</id>
	<title>Re:wtb more booklike reader</title>
	<author>Enry</author>
	<datestamp>1260199380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My kindle has a soft leather cover.  I usually keep it on so the kindle itself is protected though I sometimes take it out.</p><p>I don't read pages two-at-a-time, so having two pages in front of me is not a big concern.  Much like flipping a page or moving my eyes, I just press a button and get the next page.   The time to get the next page is about the same as flipping a page.</p><p>Seriously, go find someone that has an ebook reader and try it out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My kindle has a soft leather cover .
I usually keep it on so the kindle itself is protected though I sometimes take it out.I do n't read pages two-at-a-time , so having two pages in front of me is not a big concern .
Much like flipping a page or moving my eyes , I just press a button and get the next page .
The time to get the next page is about the same as flipping a page.Seriously , go find someone that has an ebook reader and try it out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My kindle has a soft leather cover.
I usually keep it on so the kindle itself is protected though I sometimes take it out.I don't read pages two-at-a-time, so having two pages in front of me is not a big concern.
Much like flipping a page or moving my eyes, I just press a button and get the next page.
The time to get the next page is about the same as flipping a page.Seriously, go find someone that has an ebook reader and try it out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30355392</id>
	<title>What's the point?</title>
	<author>CxDoo</author>
	<datestamp>1260211800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why would anyone want to buy a device for the exclusive use of reading books + being locked into specific retailer's network?

I got my second hand <a href="http://www.pcwb.co.uk/catalogue/item/FUJTAB60" title="pcwb.co.uk" rel="nofollow">Fujitsu Stylistic Tablet</a> [pcwb.co.uk] for 450 EUR on eBay. To put it as short as possible, it is a computer. I can do anything short of playing 3D intensive games on it.

Netbooks, eBook readers, iPods... so what do you do when you have all this? Carry a suitcase?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would anyone want to buy a device for the exclusive use of reading books + being locked into specific retailer 's network ?
I got my second hand Fujitsu Stylistic Tablet [ pcwb.co.uk ] for 450 EUR on eBay .
To put it as short as possible , it is a computer .
I can do anything short of playing 3D intensive games on it .
Netbooks , eBook readers , iPods... so what do you do when you have all this ?
Carry a suitcase ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would anyone want to buy a device for the exclusive use of reading books + being locked into specific retailer's network?
I got my second hand Fujitsu Stylistic Tablet [pcwb.co.uk] for 450 EUR on eBay.
To put it as short as possible, it is a computer.
I can do anything short of playing 3D intensive games on it.
Netbooks, eBook readers, iPods... so what do you do when you have all this?
Carry a suitcase?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351768</id>
	<title>Re:While it may not be a "Kindle Killer"...</title>
	<author>peater</author>
	<datestamp>1260195600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
I wasn't aware of the PDF issue with Kindle. Yeah, having to send documents to Amazon for conversion everytime I want to use a PDF would suck quite a bit. Among other things, I use my reader (Sony) as a reference store, so if I have important notes and such written in OneNote or I find a cool article I want to perhaps read on the way to work or whatever, I just push everything to a single pdf and carry that with me on the reader (Sony supports PDF out of the box). I get a lot of reading done while travelling so its important for me to able to print a pdf from any of the multitude of applications I use and carry that on my reader.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was n't aware of the PDF issue with Kindle .
Yeah , having to send documents to Amazon for conversion everytime I want to use a PDF would suck quite a bit .
Among other things , I use my reader ( Sony ) as a reference store , so if I have important notes and such written in OneNote or I find a cool article I want to perhaps read on the way to work or whatever , I just push everything to a single pdf and carry that with me on the reader ( Sony supports PDF out of the box ) .
I get a lot of reading done while travelling so its important for me to able to print a pdf from any of the multitude of applications I use and carry that on my reader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I wasn't aware of the PDF issue with Kindle.
Yeah, having to send documents to Amazon for conversion everytime I want to use a PDF would suck quite a bit.
Among other things, I use my reader (Sony) as a reference store, so if I have important notes and such written in OneNote or I find a cool article I want to perhaps read on the way to work or whatever, I just push everything to a single pdf and carry that with me on the reader (Sony supports PDF out of the box).
I get a lot of reading done while travelling so its important for me to able to print a pdf from any of the multitude of applications I use and carry that on my reader.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351962</id>
	<title>e-ink not for me yet</title>
	<author>StripedCow</author>
	<datestamp>1260196620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the nook is a huge advancement (if only to allow PDF's), but the e-ink display is not for me. Switching pages is just too flickery, and the 0.5 second refresh time is way too long (check out the reviews on youtube and see what i mean)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the nook is a huge advancement ( if only to allow PDF 's ) , but the e-ink display is not for me .
Switching pages is just too flickery , and the 0.5 second refresh time is way too long ( check out the reviews on youtube and see what i mean )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the nook is a huge advancement (if only to allow PDF's), but the e-ink display is not for me.
Switching pages is just too flickery, and the 0.5 second refresh time is way too long (check out the reviews on youtube and see what i mean)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30355622</id>
	<title>worst name since teabaggers</title>
	<author>ffflala</author>
	<datestamp>1260212820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, nook? The name is going to condition people to feel disappointed upon realizing that someone was talking about an ebook reader instead of sex.</p><p>"You want my nook? REALLY?? Oh....oh, right, that. Sure. It's in the other room." (sigh)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , nook ?
The name is going to condition people to feel disappointed upon realizing that someone was talking about an ebook reader instead of sex .
" You want my nook ?
REALLY ? ? Oh....oh , right , that .
Sure. It 's in the other room .
" ( sigh )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, nook?
The name is going to condition people to feel disappointed upon realizing that someone was talking about an ebook reader instead of sex.
"You want my nook?
REALLY?? Oh....oh, right, that.
Sure. It's in the other room.
" (sigh)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30354518</id>
	<title>Re:WiFi</title>
	<author>Dare nMc</author>
	<datestamp>1260207900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>both can do pdf, just the reviews I have seen say the kindles doesn't have the fonts and many pdf features (indexs, etc), so pdfs are generally screwed up unless they are rendered into a binary only format, which breaks lots of other things...<br>No idea if the nook is better, but it seams it will be much more hackable to fix any shortcoming without waiting for amazon...  (The nook is also supposed to annotate pdf's, and remember page numbers, etc that apparently the kindle doesn't do with pdf's.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>both can do pdf , just the reviews I have seen say the kindles does n't have the fonts and many pdf features ( indexs , etc ) , so pdfs are generally screwed up unless they are rendered into a binary only format , which breaks lots of other things...No idea if the nook is better , but it seams it will be much more hackable to fix any shortcoming without waiting for amazon... ( The nook is also supposed to annotate pdf 's , and remember page numbers , etc that apparently the kindle does n't do with pdf 's .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>both can do pdf, just the reviews I have seen say the kindles doesn't have the fonts and many pdf features (indexs, etc), so pdfs are generally screwed up unless they are rendered into a binary only format, which breaks lots of other things...No idea if the nook is better, but it seams it will be much more hackable to fix any shortcoming without waiting for amazon...  (The nook is also supposed to annotate pdf's, and remember page numbers, etc that apparently the kindle doesn't do with pdf's.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30358422</id>
	<title>Where are the "geek books" B&amp;N?</title>
	<author>crustymonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1260184140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One thing that I've definitely noted in searching the B&amp;N ebook store is a complete and total lack of any computer/technical books.  Here is a search for "programming" in B&amp;N's ebook store, where I should see something about Perl, Java, Python, etc., but instead it's Glenn Beck???:</p><p> <a href="http://books.barnesandnoble.com/search/results.aspx?store=EBOOK&amp;WRD=programming&amp;box=programming&amp;pos=-1" title="barnesandnoble.com" rel="nofollow">http://books.barnesandnoble.com/search/results.aspx?store=EBOOK&amp;WRD=programming&amp;box=programming&amp;pos=-1</a> [barnesandnoble.com] </p><p>I can't be the only one on slashdot with shelves containing hundreds of pounds of technical reference material...  I've been thinking about getting an e-reader to replace the mountain of paper with something that I can slip in my laptop bag and take with me, and I was leaning towards the nook.  However, B&amp;N's complete lack of technical tomes in ebook form means that I'll probably go the kindle route since Amazon has a plethora of books from O'Reilly, Wrox, Apress, etc.</p><p>I know the e-readers are definitely marketed outside the bounds of us gadget loving nerds, but I would have to imagine that there is at least a significant percentage of us that either have and e-reader or are looking to buy one.  I can't believe that B&amp;N seems to be dropping the ball on this market segment.  I know it's early in the life of the nook, or the B&amp;N app for the iphone, but it really feels like B&amp;N is missing out by leaving us high and dry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One thing that I 've definitely noted in searching the B&amp;N ebook store is a complete and total lack of any computer/technical books .
Here is a search for " programming " in B&amp;N 's ebook store , where I should see something about Perl , Java , Python , etc. , but instead it 's Glenn Beck ? ? ?
: http : //books.barnesandnoble.com/search/results.aspx ? store = EBOOK&amp;WRD = programming&amp;box = programming&amp;pos = -1 [ barnesandnoble.com ] I ca n't be the only one on slashdot with shelves containing hundreds of pounds of technical reference material... I 've been thinking about getting an e-reader to replace the mountain of paper with something that I can slip in my laptop bag and take with me , and I was leaning towards the nook .
However , B&amp;N 's complete lack of technical tomes in ebook form means that I 'll probably go the kindle route since Amazon has a plethora of books from O'Reilly , Wrox , Apress , etc.I know the e-readers are definitely marketed outside the bounds of us gadget loving nerds , but I would have to imagine that there is at least a significant percentage of us that either have and e-reader or are looking to buy one .
I ca n't believe that B&amp;N seems to be dropping the ball on this market segment .
I know it 's early in the life of the nook , or the B&amp;N app for the iphone , but it really feels like B&amp;N is missing out by leaving us high and dry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One thing that I've definitely noted in searching the B&amp;N ebook store is a complete and total lack of any computer/technical books.
Here is a search for "programming" in B&amp;N's ebook store, where I should see something about Perl, Java, Python, etc., but instead it's Glenn Beck???
: http://books.barnesandnoble.com/search/results.aspx?store=EBOOK&amp;WRD=programming&amp;box=programming&amp;pos=-1 [barnesandnoble.com] I can't be the only one on slashdot with shelves containing hundreds of pounds of technical reference material...  I've been thinking about getting an e-reader to replace the mountain of paper with something that I can slip in my laptop bag and take with me, and I was leaning towards the nook.
However, B&amp;N's complete lack of technical tomes in ebook form means that I'll probably go the kindle route since Amazon has a plethora of books from O'Reilly, Wrox, Apress, etc.I know the e-readers are definitely marketed outside the bounds of us gadget loving nerds, but I would have to imagine that there is at least a significant percentage of us that either have and e-reader or are looking to buy one.
I can't believe that B&amp;N seems to be dropping the ball on this market segment.
I know it's early in the life of the nook, or the B&amp;N app for the iphone, but it really feels like B&amp;N is missing out by leaving us high and dry.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351726</id>
	<title>Re:wtb more booklike reader</title>
	<author>CrackedButter</author>
	<datestamp>1260195420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree, makes perfect sense: <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/entourage-edge-e-reader-shows-off-its-softer-ware-side-on-video/" title="engadget.com">http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/entourage-edge-e-reader-shows-off-its-softer-ware-side-on-video/</a> [engadget.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree , makes perfect sense : http : //www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/entourage-edge-e-reader-shows-off-its-softer-ware-side-on-video/ [ engadget.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree, makes perfect sense: http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/07/entourage-edge-e-reader-shows-off-its-softer-ware-side-on-video/ [engadget.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30363116</id>
	<title>Comics</title>
	<author>Amiralul</author>
	<datestamp>1260268200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll buy an ebook reader when it will be able do display CBR/CBZ formats, in a readable form.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll buy an ebook reader when it will be able do display CBR/CBZ formats , in a readable form .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll buy an ebook reader when it will be able do display CBR/CBZ formats, in a readable form.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351548</id>
	<title>Re:Kindle killer?</title>
	<author>ifchairscouldtalk</author>
	<datestamp>1260193440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Personally I'm not so sure that it is the belated international availability which dwarfs the iconic status of the Kindle. The iPhone too was only available for the US market for a long while. Certainly, the unavailability of a product doesn't help its popularity, but many other factors (not all imputable to Amazon itself), contribute to the somewhat limited extent to which people around the world have reacted to the "revolution" which Amazon was hoping to bring with its device.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally I 'm not so sure that it is the belated international availability which dwarfs the iconic status of the Kindle .
The iPhone too was only available for the US market for a long while .
Certainly , the unavailability of a product does n't help its popularity , but many other factors ( not all imputable to Amazon itself ) , contribute to the somewhat limited extent to which people around the world have reacted to the " revolution " which Amazon was hoping to bring with its device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally I'm not so sure that it is the belated international availability which dwarfs the iconic status of the Kindle.
The iPhone too was only available for the US market for a long while.
Certainly, the unavailability of a product doesn't help its popularity, but many other factors (not all imputable to Amazon itself), contribute to the somewhat limited extent to which people around the world have reacted to the "revolution" which Amazon was hoping to bring with its device.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30354286</id>
	<title>Re:Killer</title>
	<author>aztracker1</author>
	<datestamp>1260207180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Trees are a renewable resource, within landfills they provide additional nutrition for those bacteria and other little munchers to utilize to help turn our trash into something reasonable in the ground.  We can, and do grow more trees for all the ones we cut down for paper production.  It isn't even in the same league as the clear cutting for cattle lands in South/Central America, and in Africa.  I purposely do *NOT* recycle paper for these reasons, beyond that it isn't even economically sound, let alone environmentally sound.  I'm sick of all this *think of the environment* crap.  If you want to talk about harmful emissions, cool.  If you want to go on about other wastes, cool...  But get off the dead trees, and environmentalism surrounding recycling paper, or cutting down trees that are grown as a crop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Trees are a renewable resource , within landfills they provide additional nutrition for those bacteria and other little munchers to utilize to help turn our trash into something reasonable in the ground .
We can , and do grow more trees for all the ones we cut down for paper production .
It is n't even in the same league as the clear cutting for cattle lands in South/Central America , and in Africa .
I purposely do * NOT * recycle paper for these reasons , beyond that it is n't even economically sound , let alone environmentally sound .
I 'm sick of all this * think of the environment * crap .
If you want to talk about harmful emissions , cool .
If you want to go on about other wastes , cool... But get off the dead trees , and environmentalism surrounding recycling paper , or cutting down trees that are grown as a crop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Trees are a renewable resource, within landfills they provide additional nutrition for those bacteria and other little munchers to utilize to help turn our trash into something reasonable in the ground.
We can, and do grow more trees for all the ones we cut down for paper production.
It isn't even in the same league as the clear cutting for cattle lands in South/Central America, and in Africa.
I purposely do *NOT* recycle paper for these reasons, beyond that it isn't even economically sound, let alone environmentally sound.
I'm sick of all this *think of the environment* crap.
If you want to talk about harmful emissions, cool.
If you want to go on about other wastes, cool...  But get off the dead trees, and environmentalism surrounding recycling paper, or cutting down trees that are grown as a crop.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352842</id>
	<title>Library of Alexandria</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260200700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No book burning has ever deleted an entire work from the culture.</p> </div><p>Are you sure no works died with the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library\_of\_Alexandria" title="wikipedia.org">Library of Alexandria</a> [wikipedia.org]?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No book burning has ever deleted an entire work from the culture .
Are you sure no works died with the Library of Alexandria [ wikipedia.org ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No book burning has ever deleted an entire work from the culture.
Are you sure no works died with the Library of Alexandria [wikipedia.org]?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30356988</id>
	<title>Re:Library of Alexandria</title>
	<author>skrisna</author>
	<datestamp>1260219540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or from the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalanda#Overview\_of\_Nalanda\_University" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Nalanda University</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or from the Nalanda University [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or from the Nalanda University [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30355888</id>
	<title>Re:Killer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260214200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1 acre of hemp produces more paper fiber than 4 acres of trees. 2 to 3 crops of hemp can be produced every year. But it takes 20 years to grow those 4 acres of trees.</p><p>Crop-trees are useful for lumber, but using them for paper is just stupid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 acre of hemp produces more paper fiber than 4 acres of trees .
2 to 3 crops of hemp can be produced every year .
But it takes 20 years to grow those 4 acres of trees.Crop-trees are useful for lumber , but using them for paper is just stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1 acre of hemp produces more paper fiber than 4 acres of trees.
2 to 3 crops of hemp can be produced every year.
But it takes 20 years to grow those 4 acres of trees.Crop-trees are useful for lumber, but using them for paper is just stupid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30354594</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy either?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260208260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have both an EEE-PC T91 (Touchscreen) netbook, and a first-generation Sony reader.  The EEE is by far my favorite e-book reader and I much prefer it over the Sony.  However, a dedicated e-book reader beats a netbook in 4 areas:</p><p>1. Portability.  The Sony reader fits in my pocket.  The EEE is just slightly too big.  It's also a little heavier, so holding it for long periods of time gets tiring.</p><p>2. Reading in sunlight.  E-ink is much easier to read in sunlight than an LCD screen.  On the other hand, the LCD is better in low-light conditions, so these balance out.  Inside under decent fluorescent light, it becomes just a matter of preference.</p><p>3. Battery life.  If I'm on a long road trip or expect to be away from an electrical outlet for a long time, I'll take my Sony reader along because I know it will outlast my EEE.</p><p>4. Startup/shutdown time.  I can't just open up my EEE in a waiting room and start reading because it takes so much time to boot up and then also open the application to read books.  Furthermore, to shut down I have to use the typical Windows Start -&gt; Turn Off Computer -&gt; Turn Off ritual.  With the Sony reader, I push a button to turn it on and wait 2 seconds, then push a button to turn it off and stick it back in my pocket.</p><p>If these things are important to you, go with a dedicated e-book reader.  If not, stick with a netbook.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have both an EEE-PC T91 ( Touchscreen ) netbook , and a first-generation Sony reader .
The EEE is by far my favorite e-book reader and I much prefer it over the Sony .
However , a dedicated e-book reader beats a netbook in 4 areas : 1 .
Portability. The Sony reader fits in my pocket .
The EEE is just slightly too big .
It 's also a little heavier , so holding it for long periods of time gets tiring.2 .
Reading in sunlight .
E-ink is much easier to read in sunlight than an LCD screen .
On the other hand , the LCD is better in low-light conditions , so these balance out .
Inside under decent fluorescent light , it becomes just a matter of preference.3 .
Battery life .
If I 'm on a long road trip or expect to be away from an electrical outlet for a long time , I 'll take my Sony reader along because I know it will outlast my EEE.4 .
Startup/shutdown time .
I ca n't just open up my EEE in a waiting room and start reading because it takes so much time to boot up and then also open the application to read books .
Furthermore , to shut down I have to use the typical Windows Start - &gt; Turn Off Computer - &gt; Turn Off ritual .
With the Sony reader , I push a button to turn it on and wait 2 seconds , then push a button to turn it off and stick it back in my pocket.If these things are important to you , go with a dedicated e-book reader .
If not , stick with a netbook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have both an EEE-PC T91 (Touchscreen) netbook, and a first-generation Sony reader.
The EEE is by far my favorite e-book reader and I much prefer it over the Sony.
However, a dedicated e-book reader beats a netbook in 4 areas:1.
Portability.  The Sony reader fits in my pocket.
The EEE is just slightly too big.
It's also a little heavier, so holding it for long periods of time gets tiring.2.
Reading in sunlight.
E-ink is much easier to read in sunlight than an LCD screen.
On the other hand, the LCD is better in low-light conditions, so these balance out.
Inside under decent fluorescent light, it becomes just a matter of preference.3.
Battery life.
If I'm on a long road trip or expect to be away from an electrical outlet for a long time, I'll take my Sony reader along because I know it will outlast my EEE.4.
Startup/shutdown time.
I can't just open up my EEE in a waiting room and start reading because it takes so much time to boot up and then also open the application to read books.
Furthermore, to shut down I have to use the typical Windows Start -&gt; Turn Off Computer -&gt; Turn Off ritual.
With the Sony reader, I push a button to turn it on and wait 2 seconds, then push a button to turn it off and stick it back in my pocket.If these things are important to you, go with a dedicated e-book reader.
If not, stick with a netbook.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30357614</id>
	<title>Atheists give presents day</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1260179580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Christmas has social significance to me, just not spiritual / religious. My answer to this is New Year's Day. For several years now, I've given (to the people who I'd have given "Christmas" presents before) New Year's Presents instead. It's arbitrary (not like we get a special celestial signal at midnight, Dec 31), and it's already a holiday for random celebration, and (but?) that's part of why I like it.</p><p>My goal is not to be a jerk about it, though -- for some kids who expect Christmas presents per se, that's just what they'll get<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) But that's because I see it like this: their holiday is Christmas, and I'd like to make them smile.</p><p>timothy</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Christmas has social significance to me , just not spiritual / religious .
My answer to this is New Year 's Day .
For several years now , I 've given ( to the people who I 'd have given " Christmas " presents before ) New Year 's Presents instead .
It 's arbitrary ( not like we get a special celestial signal at midnight , Dec 31 ) , and it 's already a holiday for random celebration , and ( but ?
) that 's part of why I like it.My goal is not to be a jerk about it , though -- for some kids who expect Christmas presents per se , that 's just what they 'll get ; ) But that 's because I see it like this : their holiday is Christmas , and I 'd like to make them smile.timothy</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Christmas has social significance to me, just not spiritual / religious.
My answer to this is New Year's Day.
For several years now, I've given (to the people who I'd have given "Christmas" presents before) New Year's Presents instead.
It's arbitrary (not like we get a special celestial signal at midnight, Dec 31), and it's already a holiday for random celebration, and (but?
) that's part of why I like it.My goal is not to be a jerk about it, though -- for some kids who expect Christmas presents per se, that's just what they'll get ;) But that's because I see it like this: their holiday is Christmas, and I'd like to make them smile.timothy</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353858</id>
	<title>they need to get the books</title>
	<author>astrashe</author>
	<datestamp>1260205260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't have a Kindle, but I use the iPhone app, and it's pretty great.  Carrying books in your pocket is very convenient, and I like the reading experience the Kindle app provides.  I put it in landscape mode, crank up the typeface size a bit, and it's really wonderful.  Ideal for reading on the subway.</p><p>The ironic thing is that the iPhone app made me less likely to buy a physical reader -- when I first got the app, I really wanted to run out and buy one.   But most of the books I want to read aren't available, so two or three months after starting with the app, the experience of searching for book after book that isn't available has soured me on the product. No matter how convenient the device is, and no matter how nice the reading experience is, it's not a great solution for me.</p><p>I don't understand how publishers can live with a single company like Amazon controlling electronic distribution.  And I don't understand how customers would be able to live with a balkanized world of competing readers that all carry different sets of books, due to different deals with publishing houses.  And finally, I don't understand how a truly open format can come into being without creating substantial piracy problems.</p><p>Real books do have some upsides.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't have a Kindle , but I use the iPhone app , and it 's pretty great .
Carrying books in your pocket is very convenient , and I like the reading experience the Kindle app provides .
I put it in landscape mode , crank up the typeface size a bit , and it 's really wonderful .
Ideal for reading on the subway.The ironic thing is that the iPhone app made me less likely to buy a physical reader -- when I first got the app , I really wanted to run out and buy one .
But most of the books I want to read are n't available , so two or three months after starting with the app , the experience of searching for book after book that is n't available has soured me on the product .
No matter how convenient the device is , and no matter how nice the reading experience is , it 's not a great solution for me.I do n't understand how publishers can live with a single company like Amazon controlling electronic distribution .
And I do n't understand how customers would be able to live with a balkanized world of competing readers that all carry different sets of books , due to different deals with publishing houses .
And finally , I do n't understand how a truly open format can come into being without creating substantial piracy problems.Real books do have some upsides .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't have a Kindle, but I use the iPhone app, and it's pretty great.
Carrying books in your pocket is very convenient, and I like the reading experience the Kindle app provides.
I put it in landscape mode, crank up the typeface size a bit, and it's really wonderful.
Ideal for reading on the subway.The ironic thing is that the iPhone app made me less likely to buy a physical reader -- when I first got the app, I really wanted to run out and buy one.
But most of the books I want to read aren't available, so two or three months after starting with the app, the experience of searching for book after book that isn't available has soured me on the product.
No matter how convenient the device is, and no matter how nice the reading experience is, it's not a great solution for me.I don't understand how publishers can live with a single company like Amazon controlling electronic distribution.
And I don't understand how customers would be able to live with a balkanized world of competing readers that all carry different sets of books, due to different deals with publishing houses.
And finally, I don't understand how a truly open format can come into being without creating substantial piracy problems.Real books do have some upsides.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352314</id>
	<title>Re:Oh. Shit.</title>
	<author>Daniel\_Staal</author>
	<datestamp>1260198300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Maybe a gift certificate and a picture of the Nook...</p></div><p>B&amp;N sells those.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe a gift certificate and a picture of the Nook...B&amp;N sells those .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe a gift certificate and a picture of the Nook...B&amp;N sells those.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352544</id>
	<title>iRex iLiad</title>
	<author>Weezul</author>
	<datestamp>1260199200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is there a professional quality readers available?</p><p>To me, a professional reader need significant mark up and free hand note taking, using a stylus, not tiny keyboard.  The iRex iLiad tried providing these features, but their product is rumored to be kinda "not done".  Will anyone like sony ever introduce such a reader?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is there a professional quality readers available ? To me , a professional reader need significant mark up and free hand note taking , using a stylus , not tiny keyboard .
The iRex iLiad tried providing these features , but their product is rumored to be kinda " not done " .
Will anyone like sony ever introduce such a reader ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is there a professional quality readers available?To me, a professional reader need significant mark up and free hand note taking, using a stylus, not tiny keyboard.
The iRex iLiad tried providing these features, but their product is rumored to be kinda "not done".
Will anyone like sony ever introduce such a reader?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30359406</id>
	<title>Re:WiFi</title>
	<author>ShakaUVM</author>
	<datestamp>1260189360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just make sure you get the unexpurgated version of Olsen's Standard Book of British Birds. Some people don't like the Gannet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just make sure you get the unexpurgated version of Olsen 's Standard Book of British Birds .
Some people do n't like the Gannet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just make sure you get the unexpurgated version of Olsen's Standard Book of British Birds.
Some people don't like the Gannet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30356104</id>
	<title>No public hotspot Wi-Fi??!?</title>
	<author>FlopEJoe</author>
	<datestamp>1260215340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From TFR: "The Nook&rsquo;s Wi-Fi should also work with open and password-protected Wi-Fi networks elsewhere, as long as they don&rsquo;t have a sign-in page. (The device lacks the browser you&rsquo;d need to enter credentials or agree to terms of service.) That means it should operate on your home network, but not at many public hotspots, such as those at Starbucks and hotels."<br> <br>
Well that bites. I see multiple hacks and counter hacks in the Nook's future.</htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFR : " The Nook    s Wi-Fi should also work with open and password-protected Wi-Fi networks elsewhere , as long as they don    t have a sign-in page .
( The device lacks the browser you    d need to enter credentials or agree to terms of service .
) That means it should operate on your home network , but not at many public hotspots , such as those at Starbucks and hotels .
" Well that bites .
I see multiple hacks and counter hacks in the Nook 's future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFR: "The Nook’s Wi-Fi should also work with open and password-protected Wi-Fi networks elsewhere, as long as they don’t have a sign-in page.
(The device lacks the browser you’d need to enter credentials or agree to terms of service.
) That means it should operate on your home network, but not at many public hotspots, such as those at Starbucks and hotels.
" 
Well that bites.
I see multiple hacks and counter hacks in the Nook's future.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30356082</id>
	<title>Re:Killer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260215160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Until I've read "The Tree Product Consumers Dilemma" I'll assume you are wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Until I 've read " The Tree Product Consumers Dilemma " I 'll assume you are wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until I've read "The Tree Product Consumers Dilemma" I'll assume you are wrong.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30354496</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy either?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260207840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>its the screen. It is not your average lcd stuff which consumes a lot of power and hurt your eyes. The e-paper (digital ink or whateve they are calling it these days) is soft to the eye, almost like paper and it consumes energy only when turning the page as I understand it. They are quite pleasant to look at while reading on something like a netbook or iphone is a recipe for injuries.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>its the screen .
It is not your average lcd stuff which consumes a lot of power and hurt your eyes .
The e-paper ( digital ink or whateve they are calling it these days ) is soft to the eye , almost like paper and it consumes energy only when turning the page as I understand it .
They are quite pleasant to look at while reading on something like a netbook or iphone is a recipe for injuries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>its the screen.
It is not your average lcd stuff which consumes a lot of power and hurt your eyes.
The e-paper (digital ink or whateve they are calling it these days) is soft to the eye, almost like paper and it consumes energy only when turning the page as I understand it.
They are quite pleasant to look at while reading on something like a netbook or iphone is a recipe for injuries.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353666</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy either?</title>
	<author>Stele</author>
	<datestamp>1260204540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Is it the battery life of these things, or is the hardware form factor really nice?</i></p><p>Yes.</p><p>And weight. Imagine holding your netbook in your hand like a book for 2 hours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it the battery life of these things , or is the hardware form factor really nice ? Yes.And weight .
Imagine holding your netbook in your hand like a book for 2 hours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it the battery life of these things, or is the hardware form factor really nice?Yes.And weight.
Imagine holding your netbook in your hand like a book for 2 hours.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352336</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy either?</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1260198360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Could someone please explain the advantage of a dedicated e-book reader? I don't understand why I would buy either when I can get a netbook for $50 more (at worst) that can read both PDFs and Amazon e-books. Is it the battery life of these things, or is the hardware form factor really nice? I don't know.</p></div><p>The battery life is generally rated in days, as opposed to hours.</p><p>They are typically shaped more like a book or slate, and less like a laptop.  A netbook is going to have the keyboard sticking out of the bottom and the screen is oriented horizontally rather than vertically.</p><p>The e-ink screen is more like a printed page, and easier to read under similar lighting conditions.  LCDs typically have problems with bright light, and can cause eye strain after prolonged reading.</p><p>Both the Kindle and the nook offer free 3G to purchase ebooks, which your netbook probably wouldn't.</p><p>If you don't read much and you just want something that can display a PDF, obviously an ebook reader isn't going to be necessary.  Just throw it at your computer.</p><p>But if you read for recreation, an ebook reader can be very nice.  It allows you to condense a huge book into a very small and portable form factor.  It allows you to carry a large selection of books with you.  It allows you to quickly and easily purchase more books without having to locate the nearest bookstore.  And it is designed to allow you to keep reading for hour after hour, day after day.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could someone please explain the advantage of a dedicated e-book reader ?
I do n't understand why I would buy either when I can get a netbook for $ 50 more ( at worst ) that can read both PDFs and Amazon e-books .
Is it the battery life of these things , or is the hardware form factor really nice ?
I do n't know.The battery life is generally rated in days , as opposed to hours.They are typically shaped more like a book or slate , and less like a laptop .
A netbook is going to have the keyboard sticking out of the bottom and the screen is oriented horizontally rather than vertically.The e-ink screen is more like a printed page , and easier to read under similar lighting conditions .
LCDs typically have problems with bright light , and can cause eye strain after prolonged reading.Both the Kindle and the nook offer free 3G to purchase ebooks , which your netbook probably would n't.If you do n't read much and you just want something that can display a PDF , obviously an ebook reader is n't going to be necessary .
Just throw it at your computer.But if you read for recreation , an ebook reader can be very nice .
It allows you to condense a huge book into a very small and portable form factor .
It allows you to carry a large selection of books with you .
It allows you to quickly and easily purchase more books without having to locate the nearest bookstore .
And it is designed to allow you to keep reading for hour after hour , day after day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could someone please explain the advantage of a dedicated e-book reader?
I don't understand why I would buy either when I can get a netbook for $50 more (at worst) that can read both PDFs and Amazon e-books.
Is it the battery life of these things, or is the hardware form factor really nice?
I don't know.The battery life is generally rated in days, as opposed to hours.They are typically shaped more like a book or slate, and less like a laptop.
A netbook is going to have the keyboard sticking out of the bottom and the screen is oriented horizontally rather than vertically.The e-ink screen is more like a printed page, and easier to read under similar lighting conditions.
LCDs typically have problems with bright light, and can cause eye strain after prolonged reading.Both the Kindle and the nook offer free 3G to purchase ebooks, which your netbook probably wouldn't.If you don't read much and you just want something that can display a PDF, obviously an ebook reader isn't going to be necessary.
Just throw it at your computer.But if you read for recreation, an ebook reader can be very nice.
It allows you to condense a huge book into a very small and portable form factor.
It allows you to carry a large selection of books with you.
It allows you to quickly and easily purchase more books without having to locate the nearest bookstore.
And it is designed to allow you to keep reading for hour after hour, day after day.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351394</id>
	<title>Chinese generic 13" reader?</title>
	<author>your\_neighbor</author>
	<datestamp>1260191100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which reads any<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.pdf<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.djvu<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.younameit, e-ink, etc?<br>They can not be the ultimate quality, but they will put some fire in competition! Then prices will begin to be fair!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which reads any .pdf .djvu .younameit , e-ink , etc ? They can not be the ultimate quality , but they will put some fire in competition !
Then prices will begin to be fair !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which reads any .pdf .djvu .younameit, e-ink, etc?They can not be the ultimate quality, but they will put some fire in competition!
Then prices will begin to be fair!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351326</id>
	<title>Re:WiFi</title>
	<author>Nerdfest</author>
	<datestamp>1260190020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is is still true that you can't view PDF or other open format documents on the Kindle (without sending it through the company)? If the Kindle can't, anything that can is a Kindle killer in my mind. Amazingly, even the Sony seems to be way more open than the Kindle.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is is still true that you ca n't view PDF or other open format documents on the Kindle ( without sending it through the company ) ?
If the Kindle ca n't , anything that can is a Kindle killer in my mind .
Amazingly , even the Sony seems to be way more open than the Kindle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is is still true that you can't view PDF or other open format documents on the Kindle (without sending it through the company)?
If the Kindle can't, anything that can is a Kindle killer in my mind.
Amazingly, even the Sony seems to be way more open than the Kindle.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351970</id>
	<title>You should read the review.</title>
	<author>wiredog</author>
	<datestamp>1260196620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It makes extensive mention of BN's support for epub.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It makes extensive mention of BN 's support for epub .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It makes extensive mention of BN's support for epub.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353292</id>
	<title>Re:WiFi</title>
	<author>dsvick</author>
	<datestamp>1260202860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From reading the specs I think that the WiFi only works when inside a B&amp;N store. Otherwise it uses the 3G connection</htmltext>
<tokenext>From reading the specs I think that the WiFi only works when inside a B&amp;N store .
Otherwise it uses the 3G connection</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From reading the specs I think that the WiFi only works when inside a B&amp;N store.
Otherwise it uses the 3G connection</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352752</id>
	<title>Re:WiFi</title>
	<author>Brandee07</author>
	<datestamp>1260200160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except that you're not allowed to buy new content on the nook when outside of the US. Read, sure, but not get anything new.</p><p> <a href="http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/support/?cds2Pid=30195" title="barnesandnoble.com">See the "Traveling with nook" subheading</a> [barnesandnoble.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except that you 're not allowed to buy new content on the nook when outside of the US .
Read , sure , but not get anything new .
See the " Traveling with nook " subheading [ barnesandnoble.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except that you're not allowed to buy new content on the nook when outside of the US.
Read, sure, but not get anything new.
See the "Traveling with nook" subheading [barnesandnoble.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30356398</id>
	<title>Re:Mandatory AT&amp;T contract?</title>
	<author>vcgodinich</author>
	<datestamp>1260216660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Buy a kindle 1, cheaper, replaceable battery, SD card, reads any real format file.<p>That being said, i bought a kindle 1 for that reason, and i have to admit that there is really no reason to have a SD card. All the books i can read in a reasonable amount of time fit into internal memory, and having then just sit on a SD card just drains battery life (indexing, searching, etc...). Maybe if I had a big kindle for PDF's i would need 4gb of books. . . but the technology just isn't there yet for that.</p><p>People keep complaining about the Kindle and DRM, and I don't think they realize that you can turn the wireless off and get your books from ANYWHERE and read them on the kindle with NO problem. Amazon has made it read several formats, and there are ton of converters out there, if you have something weird. My kindle does exactly what i want it to do, display books. I don't need it to be open source, i need it to work, and it has for the past year wonderfully. </p><p>Would i buy a Nook? No. The Kindle has far surpassed my expectations, and i see nothing about the nook that makes it any better, just a product that is a year behind the polish of it's competitors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Buy a kindle 1 , cheaper , replaceable battery , SD card , reads any real format file.That being said , i bought a kindle 1 for that reason , and i have to admit that there is really no reason to have a SD card .
All the books i can read in a reasonable amount of time fit into internal memory , and having then just sit on a SD card just drains battery life ( indexing , searching , etc... ) .
Maybe if I had a big kindle for PDF 's i would need 4gb of books .
. .
but the technology just is n't there yet for that.People keep complaining about the Kindle and DRM , and I do n't think they realize that you can turn the wireless off and get your books from ANYWHERE and read them on the kindle with NO problem .
Amazon has made it read several formats , and there are ton of converters out there , if you have something weird .
My kindle does exactly what i want it to do , display books .
I do n't need it to be open source , i need it to work , and it has for the past year wonderfully .
Would i buy a Nook ?
No. The Kindle has far surpassed my expectations , and i see nothing about the nook that makes it any better , just a product that is a year behind the polish of it 's competitors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Buy a kindle 1, cheaper, replaceable battery, SD card, reads any real format file.That being said, i bought a kindle 1 for that reason, and i have to admit that there is really no reason to have a SD card.
All the books i can read in a reasonable amount of time fit into internal memory, and having then just sit on a SD card just drains battery life (indexing, searching, etc...).
Maybe if I had a big kindle for PDF's i would need 4gb of books.
. .
but the technology just isn't there yet for that.People keep complaining about the Kindle and DRM, and I don't think they realize that you can turn the wireless off and get your books from ANYWHERE and read them on the kindle with NO problem.
Amazon has made it read several formats, and there are ton of converters out there, if you have something weird.
My kindle does exactly what i want it to do, display books.
I don't need it to be open source, i need it to work, and it has for the past year wonderfully.
Would i buy a Nook?
No. The Kindle has far surpassed my expectations, and i see nothing about the nook that makes it any better, just a product that is a year behind the polish of it's competitors.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352238</id>
	<title>Re:What does a book offer that a reader doesn't?</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1260197940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A book offers permanence.  Books are created so the only infrastructure required to receive the information within is your brain.  And how can you get rid of books authorities no longer like?  Well, because of the light infrastructure requirements, you CAN'T.  No book burning has ever deleted an entire work from the culture.</p><p>But if a corporation decides to "burn" an e-reader book, can they?  They sure CAN!  And the book will be gone with no chance of ever discovering an unburnt copy.</p><p>Sorry, no.  The function I want is PERMANENCE.  That cannot be built into an e-reader.</p></div><p>Actually...  If you're worried about permanence...  I'd go for an (open) electronic format over the printed page...</p><p>Much easier to throw a PDF on the interwebs and ensure that it lives forever.  Or copy it to a couple dozen USB keys or SD cards and scatter them around.  Or email it to hundreds of people.  Or encrypt the thing so authorities can't touch it.  Or print out a few dozen copies.  Or burn it to a CD/DVD.  Throw a copy on your iPod Touch, on your iPhone, on your Blackberry.</p><p>Yeah, DRM is bad.  And Amazon has demonstrated just how bad it can be.  But the nook supports both PDF and EPUB files and has an SD card reader - so I can put pretty much any written document on it and Barnes &amp; Noble can't do much about it.</p><p>And as far as the light infrastructure requirements...</p><p>With a printed book you need more than just a brain - you need to be able to read.  There have been many times in history when it was far easier to get your hands on a printed book than it was to learn how to read.  And if you can't read, you're just trusting somebody else to tell you what it says.  No need to burn the book then - just lie about the contents.</p></div>
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<tokenext>A book offers permanence .
Books are created so the only infrastructure required to receive the information within is your brain .
And how can you get rid of books authorities no longer like ?
Well , because of the light infrastructure requirements , you CA N'T .
No book burning has ever deleted an entire work from the culture.But if a corporation decides to " burn " an e-reader book , can they ?
They sure CAN !
And the book will be gone with no chance of ever discovering an unburnt copy.Sorry , no .
The function I want is PERMANENCE .
That can not be built into an e-reader.Actually... If you 're worried about permanence... I 'd go for an ( open ) electronic format over the printed page...Much easier to throw a PDF on the interwebs and ensure that it lives forever .
Or copy it to a couple dozen USB keys or SD cards and scatter them around .
Or email it to hundreds of people .
Or encrypt the thing so authorities ca n't touch it .
Or print out a few dozen copies .
Or burn it to a CD/DVD .
Throw a copy on your iPod Touch , on your iPhone , on your Blackberry.Yeah , DRM is bad .
And Amazon has demonstrated just how bad it can be .
But the nook supports both PDF and EPUB files and has an SD card reader - so I can put pretty much any written document on it and Barnes &amp; Noble ca n't do much about it.And as far as the light infrastructure requirements...With a printed book you need more than just a brain - you need to be able to read .
There have been many times in history when it was far easier to get your hands on a printed book than it was to learn how to read .
And if you ca n't read , you 're just trusting somebody else to tell you what it says .
No need to burn the book then - just lie about the contents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A book offers permanence.
Books are created so the only infrastructure required to receive the information within is your brain.
And how can you get rid of books authorities no longer like?
Well, because of the light infrastructure requirements, you CAN'T.
No book burning has ever deleted an entire work from the culture.But if a corporation decides to "burn" an e-reader book, can they?
They sure CAN!
And the book will be gone with no chance of ever discovering an unburnt copy.Sorry, no.
The function I want is PERMANENCE.
That cannot be built into an e-reader.Actually...  If you're worried about permanence...  I'd go for an (open) electronic format over the printed page...Much easier to throw a PDF on the interwebs and ensure that it lives forever.
Or copy it to a couple dozen USB keys or SD cards and scatter them around.
Or email it to hundreds of people.
Or encrypt the thing so authorities can't touch it.
Or print out a few dozen copies.
Or burn it to a CD/DVD.
Throw a copy on your iPod Touch, on your iPhone, on your Blackberry.Yeah, DRM is bad.
And Amazon has demonstrated just how bad it can be.
But the nook supports both PDF and EPUB files and has an SD card reader - so I can put pretty much any written document on it and Barnes &amp; Noble can't do much about it.And as far as the light infrastructure requirements...With a printed book you need more than just a brain - you need to be able to read.
There have been many times in history when it was far easier to get your hands on a printed book than it was to learn how to read.
And if you can't read, you're just trusting somebody else to tell you what it says.
No need to burn the book then - just lie about the contents.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353796</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy either?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260205020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Netbook = LCD, eBook-Reader = Paperlike-Display, most eBook-Reader use eInk-Displays. It looks like a Paperback on cheap paper, even a greyish tinge instead of pure white. Currently no colour, black on white-nah-grey. LCD does refresh and thus causes eye-strain, which some people are experiencing more than other.<br>The eInk-Display is only refreshed on page-turning and this is the only time it needs power! Depending on the page and the generation of the display this page turn takes 1/4 second or longer. This takes some getting used to. But then again the display is much more book-like than LCD. Even to the point that you need a light source to read.</p><p>I own the Sony-Reader PRS 505. It offers only USB, SD-Card and Memory-Stick for Book-Transfer, so it is a bit clumsy, WiFi or Bluetooth would be nice. But despite of that, I really like this Reader.<br>PDF are only displayed correctly and with Zoom if there are no Graphics. Graphic on a page means no Zoom<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-(. This means (for me) no "Spiegel" - which is available as PDF-Subcription but rather expensive if you do not subscripe to the dead-paper version.<br>Normal books, with or without DRM are no problem. Some are quite cheap (legally), and you can find a lot of old stuff with expired copyright for free. And there is also lot of stuff to be found at the usual torrent-sites - though with varying quality, sometimes handscanned/handtyped with bad or no error-correction.</p><p>To really see the difference you should check out a reader from a friend for a few days or at least play around with one in a shop.<br>The display is easily the most expensive part in the eBook-Reader, but due to the competition I would guess a price dropp to 100 US$ in the next year is quite possible.<br>The newer readers should (!) offer faster displays, maybe allow notetaking, and esp. search. All of these features are lacking on my Sony, also lacking on the other Sony-Reader imho, I don't know for the B&amp;N-Reader, Kindle offers these probably (have not checked).<br>WiFi, Bluetooth would be nice, but not really needed, the GPRS/G3/UMTS is not really free, as it has to be priced in the bought books, and Kindle charges for the sending of otherwise free files (imho, at least here in Germany).</p><p>And to the other person who says it would be easy to burn ebooks: ever heard of a backup? Only the amazon-type modell would allow it to burn it permanently, the other ones (sony, b&amp;n) are relying on offline-copies on your computer, which could be accessed even after a burn.<br>In the long run I think the DRM should vanish, but currently it does not bother me.</p><p>I read a lot: in the last years each 50 Books/year, this year (not working anymore since July 1st) 70 till now. A lot of dead-tree books I buy used, but even so the shelf-space is needed and sometimes even a legal eBook is as cheap as a used dead-tree-book and does not need shelf-space.</p><p>Sorry for posting a.c.<br>Ingo Lembcke, Hamburg, Germany</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Netbook = LCD , eBook-Reader = Paperlike-Display , most eBook-Reader use eInk-Displays .
It looks like a Paperback on cheap paper , even a greyish tinge instead of pure white .
Currently no colour , black on white-nah-grey .
LCD does refresh and thus causes eye-strain , which some people are experiencing more than other.The eInk-Display is only refreshed on page-turning and this is the only time it needs power !
Depending on the page and the generation of the display this page turn takes 1/4 second or longer .
This takes some getting used to .
But then again the display is much more book-like than LCD .
Even to the point that you need a light source to read.I own the Sony-Reader PRS 505 .
It offers only USB , SD-Card and Memory-Stick for Book-Transfer , so it is a bit clumsy , WiFi or Bluetooth would be nice .
But despite of that , I really like this Reader.PDF are only displayed correctly and with Zoom if there are no Graphics .
Graphic on a page means no Zoom : - ( .
This means ( for me ) no " Spiegel " - which is available as PDF-Subcription but rather expensive if you do not subscripe to the dead-paper version.Normal books , with or without DRM are no problem .
Some are quite cheap ( legally ) , and you can find a lot of old stuff with expired copyright for free .
And there is also lot of stuff to be found at the usual torrent-sites - though with varying quality , sometimes handscanned/handtyped with bad or no error-correction.To really see the difference you should check out a reader from a friend for a few days or at least play around with one in a shop.The display is easily the most expensive part in the eBook-Reader , but due to the competition I would guess a price dropp to 100 US $ in the next year is quite possible.The newer readers should ( !
) offer faster displays , maybe allow notetaking , and esp .
search. All of these features are lacking on my Sony , also lacking on the other Sony-Reader imho , I do n't know for the B&amp;N-Reader , Kindle offers these probably ( have not checked ) .WiFi , Bluetooth would be nice , but not really needed , the GPRS/G3/UMTS is not really free , as it has to be priced in the bought books , and Kindle charges for the sending of otherwise free files ( imho , at least here in Germany ) .And to the other person who says it would be easy to burn ebooks : ever heard of a backup ?
Only the amazon-type modell would allow it to burn it permanently , the other ones ( sony , b&amp;n ) are relying on offline-copies on your computer , which could be accessed even after a burn.In the long run I think the DRM should vanish , but currently it does not bother me.I read a lot : in the last years each 50 Books/year , this year ( not working anymore since July 1st ) 70 till now .
A lot of dead-tree books I buy used , but even so the shelf-space is needed and sometimes even a legal eBook is as cheap as a used dead-tree-book and does not need shelf-space.Sorry for posting a.c.Ingo Lembcke , Hamburg , Germany</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Netbook = LCD, eBook-Reader = Paperlike-Display, most eBook-Reader use eInk-Displays.
It looks like a Paperback on cheap paper, even a greyish tinge instead of pure white.
Currently no colour, black on white-nah-grey.
LCD does refresh and thus causes eye-strain, which some people are experiencing more than other.The eInk-Display is only refreshed on page-turning and this is the only time it needs power!
Depending on the page and the generation of the display this page turn takes 1/4 second or longer.
This takes some getting used to.
But then again the display is much more book-like than LCD.
Even to the point that you need a light source to read.I own the Sony-Reader PRS 505.
It offers only USB, SD-Card and Memory-Stick for Book-Transfer, so it is a bit clumsy, WiFi or Bluetooth would be nice.
But despite of that, I really like this Reader.PDF are only displayed correctly and with Zoom if there are no Graphics.
Graphic on a page means no Zoom :-(.
This means (for me) no "Spiegel" - which is available as PDF-Subcription but rather expensive if you do not subscripe to the dead-paper version.Normal books, with or without DRM are no problem.
Some are quite cheap (legally), and you can find a lot of old stuff with expired copyright for free.
And there is also lot of stuff to be found at the usual torrent-sites - though with varying quality, sometimes handscanned/handtyped with bad or no error-correction.To really see the difference you should check out a reader from a friend for a few days or at least play around with one in a shop.The display is easily the most expensive part in the eBook-Reader, but due to the competition I would guess a price dropp to 100 US$ in the next year is quite possible.The newer readers should (!
) offer faster displays, maybe allow notetaking, and esp.
search. All of these features are lacking on my Sony, also lacking on the other Sony-Reader imho, I don't know for the B&amp;N-Reader, Kindle offers these probably (have not checked).WiFi, Bluetooth would be nice, but not really needed, the GPRS/G3/UMTS is not really free, as it has to be priced in the bought books, and Kindle charges for the sending of otherwise free files (imho, at least here in Germany).And to the other person who says it would be easy to burn ebooks: ever heard of a backup?
Only the amazon-type modell would allow it to burn it permanently, the other ones (sony, b&amp;n) are relying on offline-copies on your computer, which could be accessed even after a burn.In the long run I think the DRM should vanish, but currently it does not bother me.I read a lot: in the last years each 50 Books/year, this year (not working anymore since July 1st) 70 till now.
A lot of dead-tree books I buy used, but even so the shelf-space is needed and sometimes even a legal eBook is as cheap as a used dead-tree-book and does not need shelf-space.Sorry for posting a.c.Ingo Lembcke, Hamburg, Germany</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353080</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy either?</title>
	<author>Rubedo</author>
	<datestamp>1260201900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The main reason is the E-ink display, which looks much crisper than lcd.  I find my eyes don't get as tired reading the E-ink as when reading on an lcd.  Also, the battery life is very long, as energy is only used when changing the page, and not when keeping a static image displayed.  It is also very light and easy to carry around.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The main reason is the E-ink display , which looks much crisper than lcd .
I find my eyes do n't get as tired reading the E-ink as when reading on an lcd .
Also , the battery life is very long , as energy is only used when changing the page , and not when keeping a static image displayed .
It is also very light and easy to carry around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The main reason is the E-ink display, which looks much crisper than lcd.
I find my eyes don't get as tired reading the E-ink as when reading on an lcd.
Also, the battery life is very long, as energy is only used when changing the page, and not when keeping a static image displayed.
It is also very light and easy to carry around.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30357554</id>
	<title>Conquer public library e-book lending formats FTW</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260179340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just need something that forces Amazon to keep innovating and keep pricing competitive.</p><p>Thanks, B&amp;N!</p></div><p>The innovation I want most right now is the ability to cleanly borrow DRM'd library books.  Right now, libraries are hashing out their e-book lending schemes.  From the San Francisco Public Library, I can borrow some e-books in one or more of several formats, some with DRM (epub, mobi) some without (PDF, mobi).  (SFPL doesn't roll their own e-book lending system, they use <a href="http://overdrive.com/" title="overdrive.com" rel="nofollow">OverDrive</a> [overdrive.com] and <a href="http://netlibrary.com/" title="netlibrary.com" rel="nofollow">NetLibrary</a> [netlibrary.com].)</p><p>So on my kindle2, I can read non-DRM'd books and DRM'd mobis (legally, but through a <a href="http://igorsk.blogspot.com/2007/12/mobipocket-books-on-kindle.html" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">clunky process</a> [blogspot.com] to overcome kindle's hostility towards books not bought from Amazon).  But I can't read the stuff that requires Adobe Digital Editions, which is a lot of the good stuff.  (And after using a kindle, reading a book on the PC is unbearable.)  IIRC the Sony Reader does support Adobe Digital Editions (but Sony doesn't have the online commercial library of Amazon or B&amp;N, plus is it safe to stop hating Sony yet?).</p><p><b>Dear Amazon Kindle Team</b>,</p><p><b>Please improve Kindle's support for commonly used public library e-book formats.  Specifically:</b> </p><p>1) <b>Support legally acquired DRM'd mobi's</b> without requiring clunky conversion with kindlefix or the like.</p><p>2) <b>Support Adobe Digital Editions (DRM'd epub).</b> </p><p>Thank you, and have a nice day.</p><p>It's obvious why Amazon would prefer you to buy a new bestseller from their store rather than borrow it for free from a public library, but I want to do some of both, and I hope competition from device makers will spur improvement in the public library lending scene.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Just need something that forces Amazon to keep innovating and keep pricing competitive.Thanks , B&amp;N ! The innovation I want most right now is the ability to cleanly borrow DRM 'd library books .
Right now , libraries are hashing out their e-book lending schemes .
From the San Francisco Public Library , I can borrow some e-books in one or more of several formats , some with DRM ( epub , mobi ) some without ( PDF , mobi ) .
( SFPL does n't roll their own e-book lending system , they use OverDrive [ overdrive.com ] and NetLibrary [ netlibrary.com ] .
) So on my kindle2 , I can read non-DRM 'd books and DRM 'd mobis ( legally , but through a clunky process [ blogspot.com ] to overcome kindle 's hostility towards books not bought from Amazon ) .
But I ca n't read the stuff that requires Adobe Digital Editions , which is a lot of the good stuff .
( And after using a kindle , reading a book on the PC is unbearable .
) IIRC the Sony Reader does support Adobe Digital Editions ( but Sony does n't have the online commercial library of Amazon or B&amp;N , plus is it safe to stop hating Sony yet ?
) .Dear Amazon Kindle Team,Please improve Kindle 's support for commonly used public library e-book formats .
Specifically : 1 ) Support legally acquired DRM 'd mobi 's without requiring clunky conversion with kindlefix or the like.2 ) Support Adobe Digital Editions ( DRM 'd epub ) .
Thank you , and have a nice day.It 's obvious why Amazon would prefer you to buy a new bestseller from their store rather than borrow it for free from a public library , but I want to do some of both , and I hope competition from device makers will spur improvement in the public library lending scene .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just need something that forces Amazon to keep innovating and keep pricing competitive.Thanks, B&amp;N!The innovation I want most right now is the ability to cleanly borrow DRM'd library books.
Right now, libraries are hashing out their e-book lending schemes.
From the San Francisco Public Library, I can borrow some e-books in one or more of several formats, some with DRM (epub, mobi) some without (PDF, mobi).
(SFPL doesn't roll their own e-book lending system, they use OverDrive [overdrive.com] and NetLibrary [netlibrary.com].
)So on my kindle2, I can read non-DRM'd books and DRM'd mobis (legally, but through a clunky process [blogspot.com] to overcome kindle's hostility towards books not bought from Amazon).
But I can't read the stuff that requires Adobe Digital Editions, which is a lot of the good stuff.
(And after using a kindle, reading a book on the PC is unbearable.
)  IIRC the Sony Reader does support Adobe Digital Editions (but Sony doesn't have the online commercial library of Amazon or B&amp;N, plus is it safe to stop hating Sony yet?
).Dear Amazon Kindle Team,Please improve Kindle's support for commonly used public library e-book formats.
Specifically: 1) Support legally acquired DRM'd mobi's without requiring clunky conversion with kindlefix or the like.2) Support Adobe Digital Editions (DRM'd epub).
Thank you, and have a nice day.It's obvious why Amazon would prefer you to buy a new bestseller from their store rather than borrow it for free from a public library, but I want to do some of both, and I hope competition from device makers will spur improvement in the public library lending scene.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351740</id>
	<title>Re:To beat Kindle you need better policy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260195480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Perhaps it is my slashdot bias, but the story about Kindles having books removed from readers' machines still strikes a sour chord with me.  I recognize that most consumers don't know a thing about and many don't care.  I don't see much difference between book burning and book deleting.  To me the reasons, are irrelevant.  Abuse will always emerge when opportunity is given.</p></div><p>One of the reasons I ordered a nook this season, as opposed to a Kindle, is that you don't really <i>need</i> to go through Barnes &amp; Noble if you don't want to.  The WiFi will let you connect wirelessly without their cell network...  The SD cardslot will let you load up whatever you want...  And the thing reads EPUB and PDF documents natively.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps it is my slashdot bias , but the story about Kindles having books removed from readers ' machines still strikes a sour chord with me .
I recognize that most consumers do n't know a thing about and many do n't care .
I do n't see much difference between book burning and book deleting .
To me the reasons , are irrelevant .
Abuse will always emerge when opportunity is given.One of the reasons I ordered a nook this season , as opposed to a Kindle , is that you do n't really need to go through Barnes &amp; Noble if you do n't want to .
The WiFi will let you connect wirelessly without their cell network... The SD cardslot will let you load up whatever you want... And the thing reads EPUB and PDF documents natively .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps it is my slashdot bias, but the story about Kindles having books removed from readers' machines still strikes a sour chord with me.
I recognize that most consumers don't know a thing about and many don't care.
I don't see much difference between book burning and book deleting.
To me the reasons, are irrelevant.
Abuse will always emerge when opportunity is given.One of the reasons I ordered a nook this season, as opposed to a Kindle, is that you don't really need to go through Barnes &amp; Noble if you don't want to.
The WiFi will let you connect wirelessly without their cell network...  The SD cardslot will let you load up whatever you want...  And the thing reads EPUB and PDF documents natively.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352008</id>
	<title>Re:wtb more booklike reader</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260196800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wake me up when there's an ebook reader that works more like a real book.</p><p>It should have softish covers, and once you open it, there should be 2 screens inside (one for each page).</p><p>This way the screens would be protected all the time, and it would feel more natural as a reading tool</p></div><p>Having the screens protected all the time would be nice...</p><p>But I'd rather not have two soft covers to keep open all the time.  One of the annoyances of reading a printed book is the tendency of those floppy covers to want to close.  If you're doing something else with your hands, it can be a pain to prop the thing up/open.  Especially with big, thick, 1,000+ page books...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wake me up when there 's an ebook reader that works more like a real book.It should have softish covers , and once you open it , there should be 2 screens inside ( one for each page ) .This way the screens would be protected all the time , and it would feel more natural as a reading toolHaving the screens protected all the time would be nice...But I 'd rather not have two soft covers to keep open all the time .
One of the annoyances of reading a printed book is the tendency of those floppy covers to want to close .
If you 're doing something else with your hands , it can be a pain to prop the thing up/open .
Especially with big , thick , 1,000 + page books.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wake me up when there's an ebook reader that works more like a real book.It should have softish covers, and once you open it, there should be 2 screens inside (one for each page).This way the screens would be protected all the time, and it would feel more natural as a reading toolHaving the screens protected all the time would be nice...But I'd rather not have two soft covers to keep open all the time.
One of the annoyances of reading a printed book is the tendency of those floppy covers to want to close.
If you're doing something else with your hands, it can be a pain to prop the thing up/open.
Especially with big, thick, 1,000+ page books...
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30359254</id>
	<title>Re:What does a book offer that a reader doesn't?</title>
	<author>Eil</author>
	<datestamp>1260188460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Sorry, no. The function I want is PERMANENCE. That cannot be built into an e-reader.</p></div></blockquote><p>Neither Amazon nor B&amp;N are targeting you with their e-readers.</p><p>They're after the Oprah Book Club followers, the people who read all the latest best sellers, the serial crime/romance readers, the science fiction buffs. The people who buy their weekly or monthly book, read it, then sell it for $0.10 in a yard sale five years later. This demographic has always been the cash cow of the book selling industry. Books were never permanent things to them. A book is read, then forgotten. This is the audience that Amazon and B&amp;N hope to capture because if they succeed, they'll be able to maintain their profits while cutting their merchandise distribution costs drastically.</p><p>Also, physical books will continue to be printed and sold no matter how popular e-readers get, so relax.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , no .
The function I want is PERMANENCE .
That can not be built into an e-reader.Neither Amazon nor B&amp;N are targeting you with their e-readers.They 're after the Oprah Book Club followers , the people who read all the latest best sellers , the serial crime/romance readers , the science fiction buffs .
The people who buy their weekly or monthly book , read it , then sell it for $ 0.10 in a yard sale five years later .
This demographic has always been the cash cow of the book selling industry .
Books were never permanent things to them .
A book is read , then forgotten .
This is the audience that Amazon and B&amp;N hope to capture because if they succeed , they 'll be able to maintain their profits while cutting their merchandise distribution costs drastically.Also , physical books will continue to be printed and sold no matter how popular e-readers get , so relax .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, no.
The function I want is PERMANENCE.
That cannot be built into an e-reader.Neither Amazon nor B&amp;N are targeting you with their e-readers.They're after the Oprah Book Club followers, the people who read all the latest best sellers, the serial crime/romance readers, the science fiction buffs.
The people who buy their weekly or monthly book, read it, then sell it for $0.10 in a yard sale five years later.
This demographic has always been the cash cow of the book selling industry.
Books were never permanent things to them.
A book is read, then forgotten.
This is the audience that Amazon and B&amp;N hope to capture because if they succeed, they'll be able to maintain their profits while cutting their merchandise distribution costs drastically.Also, physical books will continue to be printed and sold no matter how popular e-readers get, so relax.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30355376</id>
	<title>Re:Killer</title>
	<author>chris44larsen</author>
	<datestamp>1260211680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>the silly thing is they could have copied kindle's best features and improved on it... but they did not.

kindle is still much better.</htmltext>
<tokenext>the silly thing is they could have copied kindle 's best features and improved on it... but they did not .
kindle is still much better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the silly thing is they could have copied kindle's best features and improved on it... but they did not.
kindle is still much better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351406</id>
	<title>Re:To beat Kindle you need better policy</title>
	<author>slim</author>
	<datestamp>1260191280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was a bad decision on Amazon's part, but it was one they made good on in my opinion:</p><p><a href="http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/09/04/big-amazon-will-give-you-back-your-copies-if-1984-annotations-wont-be-sent-into-the-chute/" title="crunchgear.com">http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/09/04/big-amazon-will-give-you-back-your-copies-if-1984-annotations-wont-be-sent-into-the-chute/</a> [crunchgear.com]</p><p>I'm not keen on buying DRM'd e-books. But the fact is that in this case, Amazon showed itself to be capable of treating customers right, and of making the right reparations when standards slip.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was a bad decision on Amazon 's part , but it was one they made good on in my opinion : http : //www.crunchgear.com/2009/09/04/big-amazon-will-give-you-back-your-copies-if-1984-annotations-wont-be-sent-into-the-chute/ [ crunchgear.com ] I 'm not keen on buying DRM 'd e-books .
But the fact is that in this case , Amazon showed itself to be capable of treating customers right , and of making the right reparations when standards slip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was a bad decision on Amazon's part, but it was one they made good on in my opinion:http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/09/04/big-amazon-will-give-you-back-your-copies-if-1984-annotations-wont-be-sent-into-the-chute/ [crunchgear.com]I'm not keen on buying DRM'd e-books.
But the fact is that in this case, Amazon showed itself to be capable of treating customers right, and of making the right reparations when standards slip.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30356198</id>
	<title>Re:While it may not be a "Kindle Killer"...</title>
	<author>tool462</author>
	<datestamp>1260215700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I picked up a netbook not too long ago that has proved quite suited to the task.  Granted, it does consume more power and weigh more than a Kindle/Nook/eReader, but the numbers aren't bad.</p><p>Weight:  3 lbs.  I have plain old dead-tree books that are this heavy.<br>Battery life: 6-11 hours of actual use.  The 6 hours is with the screen brightness all the way up, Wifi on, and doing enough work to keep the CPU and hard drives cranking.  I treat it kind of like a cell phone, use it all day, plug it in to charge overnight.</p><p>And on an actual computer, you don't have to worry about weird formatting issues.  You can zoom in and scroll around without having to wait for the screen to refresh.  The display is significantly larger, and in color.</p><p>And to top it all of, the price was about the same.  eBooks may still have a future, but from what I've seen they still have a ways to go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I picked up a netbook not too long ago that has proved quite suited to the task .
Granted , it does consume more power and weigh more than a Kindle/Nook/eReader , but the numbers are n't bad.Weight : 3 lbs .
I have plain old dead-tree books that are this heavy.Battery life : 6-11 hours of actual use .
The 6 hours is with the screen brightness all the way up , Wifi on , and doing enough work to keep the CPU and hard drives cranking .
I treat it kind of like a cell phone , use it all day , plug it in to charge overnight.And on an actual computer , you do n't have to worry about weird formatting issues .
You can zoom in and scroll around without having to wait for the screen to refresh .
The display is significantly larger , and in color.And to top it all of , the price was about the same .
eBooks may still have a future , but from what I 've seen they still have a ways to go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I picked up a netbook not too long ago that has proved quite suited to the task.
Granted, it does consume more power and weigh more than a Kindle/Nook/eReader, but the numbers aren't bad.Weight:  3 lbs.
I have plain old dead-tree books that are this heavy.Battery life: 6-11 hours of actual use.
The 6 hours is with the screen brightness all the way up, Wifi on, and doing enough work to keep the CPU and hard drives cranking.
I treat it kind of like a cell phone, use it all day, plug it in to charge overnight.And on an actual computer, you don't have to worry about weird formatting issues.
You can zoom in and scroll around without having to wait for the screen to refresh.
The display is significantly larger, and in color.And to top it all of, the price was about the same.
eBooks may still have a future, but from what I've seen they still have a ways to go.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353066</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy either?</title>
	<author>jimicus</author>
	<datestamp>1260201840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't the remotest idea.</p><p>Myself, I carry around more than enough in the way of expensive toys as it is.  The idea of another expensive toy to get lost, stolen, make me a more attractive target for a mugging or my car a more attractive target for being broken into does Not Appeal.</p><p>I've never seen a real book crash.  I've never seen a real book that needs to be charged up.  I've never seen a real book that will be utterly ruined if it gets even slightly damp.  (Damaged, yes.  Ruined, not unless you drop the thing in a swimming pool).  I've never felt nervous if I'm on holiday about leaving a real book on my towel when I go to get a drink.  I've never been concerned that a real book will wear out in 3 years and I'll have to replace it - or indeed what I do about anything that's DRM'd when I do replace it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't the remotest idea.Myself , I carry around more than enough in the way of expensive toys as it is .
The idea of another expensive toy to get lost , stolen , make me a more attractive target for a mugging or my car a more attractive target for being broken into does Not Appeal.I 've never seen a real book crash .
I 've never seen a real book that needs to be charged up .
I 've never seen a real book that will be utterly ruined if it gets even slightly damp .
( Damaged , yes .
Ruined , not unless you drop the thing in a swimming pool ) .
I 've never felt nervous if I 'm on holiday about leaving a real book on my towel when I go to get a drink .
I 've never been concerned that a real book will wear out in 3 years and I 'll have to replace it - or indeed what I do about anything that 's DRM 'd when I do replace it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't the remotest idea.Myself, I carry around more than enough in the way of expensive toys as it is.
The idea of another expensive toy to get lost, stolen, make me a more attractive target for a mugging or my car a more attractive target for being broken into does Not Appeal.I've never seen a real book crash.
I've never seen a real book that needs to be charged up.
I've never seen a real book that will be utterly ruined if it gets even slightly damp.
(Damaged, yes.
Ruined, not unless you drop the thing in a swimming pool).
I've never felt nervous if I'm on holiday about leaving a real book on my towel when I go to get a drink.
I've never been concerned that a real book will wear out in 3 years and I'll have to replace it - or indeed what I do about anything that's DRM'd when I do replace it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30354976</id>
	<title>Re:Chinese generic 13" reader?</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1260209820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not aware of any 13" readers, but Hanlin Jinke is as Chinese as it gets, has been around for a long time (before Kindle, and before Sony PRS). The price, however, is still around the same as PRS/Kindle/Nook/... - $250+ - for new models. Older ones can be had for slightly above $100, but then you can have an old PRS for about the same.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not aware of any 13 " readers , but Hanlin Jinke is as Chinese as it gets , has been around for a long time ( before Kindle , and before Sony PRS ) .
The price , however , is still around the same as PRS/Kindle/Nook/... - $ 250 + - for new models .
Older ones can be had for slightly above $ 100 , but then you can have an old PRS for about the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not aware of any 13" readers, but Hanlin Jinke is as Chinese as it gets, has been around for a long time (before Kindle, and before Sony PRS).
The price, however, is still around the same as PRS/Kindle/Nook/... - $250+ - for new models.
Older ones can be had for slightly above $100, but then you can have an old PRS for about the same.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351678</id>
	<title>What does a book offer that a reader doesn't?</title>
	<author>professorguy</author>
	<datestamp>1260195120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>A book offers permanence.  Books are created so the only infrastructure required to receive the information within is your brain.  And how can you get rid of books authorities no longer like?  Well, because of the light infrastructure requirements, you CAN'T.  No book burning has ever deleted an entire work from the culture.
<br> <br>
But if a corporation decides to "burn" an e-reader book, can they?  They sure CAN!  And the book will be gone with no chance of ever discovering an unburnt copy.
<br> <br>
Sorry, no.  The function I want is PERMANENCE.  That cannot be built into an e-reader.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A book offers permanence .
Books are created so the only infrastructure required to receive the information within is your brain .
And how can you get rid of books authorities no longer like ?
Well , because of the light infrastructure requirements , you CA N'T .
No book burning has ever deleted an entire work from the culture .
But if a corporation decides to " burn " an e-reader book , can they ?
They sure CAN !
And the book will be gone with no chance of ever discovering an unburnt copy .
Sorry , no .
The function I want is PERMANENCE .
That can not be built into an e-reader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A book offers permanence.
Books are created so the only infrastructure required to receive the information within is your brain.
And how can you get rid of books authorities no longer like?
Well, because of the light infrastructure requirements, you CAN'T.
No book burning has ever deleted an entire work from the culture.
But if a corporation decides to "burn" an e-reader book, can they?
They sure CAN!
And the book will be gone with no chance of ever discovering an unburnt copy.
Sorry, no.
The function I want is PERMANENCE.
That cannot be built into an e-reader.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352918</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy either?</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1260201060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>LCDs work well in indoor environments with moderate lighting. In low light, looking at an LCD is like looking into a lightbulb, and outdoors, your eyes are so adjusted to the environment that the screen appears too dark, unless you crank the backlight to max and (yes) kill your battery. The resolution on an e-ink screen also appears to be much higher than 1024x600.</htmltext>
<tokenext>LCDs work well in indoor environments with moderate lighting .
In low light , looking at an LCD is like looking into a lightbulb , and outdoors , your eyes are so adjusted to the environment that the screen appears too dark , unless you crank the backlight to max and ( yes ) kill your battery .
The resolution on an e-ink screen also appears to be much higher than 1024x600 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>LCDs work well in indoor environments with moderate lighting.
In low light, looking at an LCD is like looking into a lightbulb, and outdoors, your eyes are so adjusted to the environment that the screen appears too dark, unless you crank the backlight to max and (yes) kill your battery.
The resolution on an e-ink screen also appears to be much higher than 1024x600.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353988</id>
	<title>Birdwatchers</title>
	<author>ColdWetDog</author>
	<datestamp>1260205800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You guys don't understand.  Most of the time, the birdwatcher is so far away from the critter that visual identification is difficult to impossible.  They rely on sounds, movements and a variety of other criteria unknown to the Great Unwashed (i.e., the non birding community).  Black and white isn't too much of a problem.  Lack of waterproofing would be.<br> <br>
Lived with an avid birder for years and never got the hang it.  Trying to determine the difference between one Little Grey Bird and another Little Grey Bird because one hopped three times and bent over or two times and bent over seemed less fun than learning COBOL.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You guys do n't understand .
Most of the time , the birdwatcher is so far away from the critter that visual identification is difficult to impossible .
They rely on sounds , movements and a variety of other criteria unknown to the Great Unwashed ( i.e. , the non birding community ) .
Black and white is n't too much of a problem .
Lack of waterproofing would be .
Lived with an avid birder for years and never got the hang it .
Trying to determine the difference between one Little Grey Bird and another Little Grey Bird because one hopped three times and bent over or two times and bent over seemed less fun than learning COBOL .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You guys don't understand.
Most of the time, the birdwatcher is so far away from the critter that visual identification is difficult to impossible.
They rely on sounds, movements and a variety of other criteria unknown to the Great Unwashed (i.e., the non birding community).
Black and white isn't too much of a problem.
Lack of waterproofing would be.
Lived with an avid birder for years and never got the hang it.
Trying to determine the difference between one Little Grey Bird and another Little Grey Bird because one hopped three times and bent over or two times and bent over seemed less fun than learning COBOL.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353420</id>
	<title>Deal Breaker</title>
	<author>stangbat</author>
	<datestamp>1260203340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"You can lend a book once. Period."
<br> <br>
That seals the deal for me.  Let me lend my books I rightfully purchased, or I'll stick with dead tree versions.  I knew it sounded too good to be true.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" You can lend a book once .
Period. " That seals the deal for me .
Let me lend my books I rightfully purchased , or I 'll stick with dead tree versions .
I knew it sounded too good to be true .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"You can lend a book once.
Period."
 
That seals the deal for me.
Let me lend my books I rightfully purchased, or I'll stick with dead tree versions.
I knew it sounded too good to be true.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351654</id>
	<title>I did it all for the Nook</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260194880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ie.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ie.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351202</id>
	<title>Don't Need a Kindle Killer, Exactly</title>
	<author>RobotRunAmok</author>
	<datestamp>1260188760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just need something that forces Amazon to keep innovating and keep pricing competitive.</p><p>Thanks, B&amp;N!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just need something that forces Amazon to keep innovating and keep pricing competitive.Thanks , B&amp;N !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just need something that forces Amazon to keep innovating and keep pricing competitive.Thanks, B&amp;N!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352862</id>
	<title>Re:wtb more booklike reader</title>
	<author>Man Eating Duck</author>
	<datestamp>1260200760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It should have softish covers, and once you open it, there should be 2 screens inside (one for each page).</p></div></blockquote><p>I think that people requesting dual-screen readers haven't really thought it through. While two opposing pages is a given when you have paper sheets and a spine, it makes no sense for an ebook-reader. Having used different readers for about two years (my current one is a Sony PRS-600) I don't really see a use case for it at all, and it would probably double the bulk and weight. The page-turning on the Sony is very quick, and with the slower readers (iLiad) you will soon start to push the pageturn-button while you are on the last line or so of a page.</p><p>The only added value I can think of for two screens is to spread a large fixed-size PDF page over the two screens, but that was never a feature of regular books anyway, and you're better off converting your PDF into a more reader-friendly format.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It should have softish covers , and once you open it , there should be 2 screens inside ( one for each page ) .I think that people requesting dual-screen readers have n't really thought it through .
While two opposing pages is a given when you have paper sheets and a spine , it makes no sense for an ebook-reader .
Having used different readers for about two years ( my current one is a Sony PRS-600 ) I do n't really see a use case for it at all , and it would probably double the bulk and weight .
The page-turning on the Sony is very quick , and with the slower readers ( iLiad ) you will soon start to push the pageturn-button while you are on the last line or so of a page.The only added value I can think of for two screens is to spread a large fixed-size PDF page over the two screens , but that was never a feature of regular books anyway , and you 're better off converting your PDF into a more reader-friendly format .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It should have softish covers, and once you open it, there should be 2 screens inside (one for each page).I think that people requesting dual-screen readers haven't really thought it through.
While two opposing pages is a given when you have paper sheets and a spine, it makes no sense for an ebook-reader.
Having used different readers for about two years (my current one is a Sony PRS-600) I don't really see a use case for it at all, and it would probably double the bulk and weight.
The page-turning on the Sony is very quick, and with the slower readers (iLiad) you will soon start to push the pageturn-button while you are on the last line or so of a page.The only added value I can think of for two screens is to spread a large fixed-size PDF page over the two screens, but that was never a feature of regular books anyway, and you're better off converting your PDF into a more reader-friendly format.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352448</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy either?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260198780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's the form factor, and the simplicity of a single purpose device.</p><p>Yes, geeks can buy a netbook, it \_does\_ the job, but not very well. Try using your netbook in bed at night with your S.O. laying beside you. Er, never mind, this is Slashdot. The point is Yes, I can use my Pre to read eBooks, I can use my Desktop PC, but they're annoying. They just don't have the correct interface because they have to do too many other things.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the form factor , and the simplicity of a single purpose device.Yes , geeks can buy a netbook , it \ _does \ _ the job , but not very well .
Try using your netbook in bed at night with your S.O .
laying beside you .
Er , never mind , this is Slashdot .
The point is Yes , I can use my Pre to read eBooks , I can use my Desktop PC , but they 're annoying .
They just do n't have the correct interface because they have to do too many other things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the form factor, and the simplicity of a single purpose device.Yes, geeks can buy a netbook, it \_does\_ the job, but not very well.
Try using your netbook in bed at night with your S.O.
laying beside you.
Er, never mind, this is Slashdot.
The point is Yes, I can use my Pre to read eBooks, I can use my Desktop PC, but they're annoying.
They just don't have the correct interface because they have to do too many other things.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30354578</id>
	<title>Re:WiFi</title>
	<author>Dare nMc</author>
	<datestamp>1260208140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't understand why, but the nook says you can't purchase books over wifi (cell network required), can only download already purchased books from your account over wifi.  From the wording, it doesn't make it clear if you can purchase books online with a PC into your account first, that would then be download-able, or not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand why , but the nook says you ca n't purchase books over wifi ( cell network required ) , can only download already purchased books from your account over wifi .
From the wording , it does n't make it clear if you can purchase books online with a PC into your account first , that would then be download-able , or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand why, but the nook says you can't purchase books over wifi (cell network required), can only download already purchased books from your account over wifi.
From the wording, it doesn't make it clear if you can purchase books online with a PC into your account first, that would then be download-able, or not.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30358568</id>
	<title>Re:Library of Alexandria</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260184980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The truly unique works there (produced locally and not yet reproduced and distributed outside the library) would have been lost. But the library's loss alone wouldn't have completely erased anything else, because everything else there came from being copied. (And the local works were generally published also. For example, Euclid's Elements.)</p><p>Were works in Alexandria eventually completely lost later? Sure, as all the other copies in the world that survived Alexandria were eventually also lost. But then, that's the parent poster's point: no single act or campaign of destruction worked. You could go around burning libraries, but there's no book in those libraries that isn't also in an unknowable and large number of private collections.</p><p>It would not take much to make this effectively true for digital media, too. Burning down a library doesn't do anything to the DVDs in my desk drawer. You'd have to destroy the very existence of all DVD readers to render all DVDs worthless or somehow get a worldwide ban their use to stick long enough for all the discs to rot, and while that's possible, it's not really plausible. Discs could sit in my desk untouched for decades and still be readable after. In many situations, the DVDs are more durable than the printed books, too; plenty of things attack paper and ink (water damage, termites, etc) and not much attacks DVDs that wouldn't also ruin books (long term direct sunlight exposure, high heat, rare jungle molds).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The truly unique works there ( produced locally and not yet reproduced and distributed outside the library ) would have been lost .
But the library 's loss alone would n't have completely erased anything else , because everything else there came from being copied .
( And the local works were generally published also .
For example , Euclid 's Elements .
) Were works in Alexandria eventually completely lost later ?
Sure , as all the other copies in the world that survived Alexandria were eventually also lost .
But then , that 's the parent poster 's point : no single act or campaign of destruction worked .
You could go around burning libraries , but there 's no book in those libraries that is n't also in an unknowable and large number of private collections.It would not take much to make this effectively true for digital media , too .
Burning down a library does n't do anything to the DVDs in my desk drawer .
You 'd have to destroy the very existence of all DVD readers to render all DVDs worthless or somehow get a worldwide ban their use to stick long enough for all the discs to rot , and while that 's possible , it 's not really plausible .
Discs could sit in my desk untouched for decades and still be readable after .
In many situations , the DVDs are more durable than the printed books , too ; plenty of things attack paper and ink ( water damage , termites , etc ) and not much attacks DVDs that would n't also ruin books ( long term direct sunlight exposure , high heat , rare jungle molds ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The truly unique works there (produced locally and not yet reproduced and distributed outside the library) would have been lost.
But the library's loss alone wouldn't have completely erased anything else, because everything else there came from being copied.
(And the local works were generally published also.
For example, Euclid's Elements.
)Were works in Alexandria eventually completely lost later?
Sure, as all the other copies in the world that survived Alexandria were eventually also lost.
But then, that's the parent poster's point: no single act or campaign of destruction worked.
You could go around burning libraries, but there's no book in those libraries that isn't also in an unknowable and large number of private collections.It would not take much to make this effectively true for digital media, too.
Burning down a library doesn't do anything to the DVDs in my desk drawer.
You'd have to destroy the very existence of all DVD readers to render all DVDs worthless or somehow get a worldwide ban their use to stick long enough for all the discs to rot, and while that's possible, it's not really plausible.
Discs could sit in my desk untouched for decades and still be readable after.
In many situations, the DVDs are more durable than the printed books, too; plenty of things attack paper and ink (water damage, termites, etc) and not much attacks DVDs that wouldn't also ruin books (long term direct sunlight exposure, high heat, rare jungle molds).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30355986</id>
	<title>Re:wtb more booklike reader</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260214740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's your point? We've had stone tables, and scrolls long before books. Should we go back to them? Maybe go back to animals skins, bark, and papyrus?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's your point ?
We 've had stone tables , and scrolls long before books .
Should we go back to them ?
Maybe go back to animals skins , bark , and papyrus ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's your point?
We've had stone tables, and scrolls long before books.
Should we go back to them?
Maybe go back to animals skins, bark, and papyrus?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352320</id>
	<title>B&amp;N lameness</title>
	<author>Blymie</author>
	<datestamp>1260198300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>B&amp;N are quite lame.</p><p>First, they call publicly, for a beta test of an Android reader.  They use Android users, primarily with G1s, to test their new reader software.</p><p>Then, after a while, they transition to their lame Nook, proceed with months and months of testing on that platform, then release the Nook.</p><p>Where is the software for Android phones?  When I emailed, they seemed to think the concept was quite bizarre.</p><p>They have software for WM6, and other phones, but when THEY USE READERS TO DEVEL SOFTWARE FOR THEIR NEW HARDWARE PLATFORM, HOW DO THEY REPAY THEM!</p><p>With a big finger!!</p><p>Frankly, I've stopped using my fictionwise.com account, which is part of B&amp;N now.  I'll just pirate books, it's easier.</p><p>(I used to buy an ebook a week, so "easy" is quite often "click to buy".  It isn't, any more, since I have to undrm, decode and convert books to a txt based reader anyhow!)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>B&amp;N are quite lame.First , they call publicly , for a beta test of an Android reader .
They use Android users , primarily with G1s , to test their new reader software.Then , after a while , they transition to their lame Nook , proceed with months and months of testing on that platform , then release the Nook.Where is the software for Android phones ?
When I emailed , they seemed to think the concept was quite bizarre.They have software for WM6 , and other phones , but when THEY USE READERS TO DEVEL SOFTWARE FOR THEIR NEW HARDWARE PLATFORM , HOW DO THEY REPAY THEM ! With a big finger !
! Frankly , I 've stopped using my fictionwise.com account , which is part of B&amp;N now .
I 'll just pirate books , it 's easier .
( I used to buy an ebook a week , so " easy " is quite often " click to buy " .
It is n't , any more , since I have to undrm , decode and convert books to a txt based reader anyhow !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>B&amp;N are quite lame.First, they call publicly, for a beta test of an Android reader.
They use Android users, primarily with G1s, to test their new reader software.Then, after a while, they transition to their lame Nook, proceed with months and months of testing on that platform, then release the Nook.Where is the software for Android phones?
When I emailed, they seemed to think the concept was quite bizarre.They have software for WM6, and other phones, but when THEY USE READERS TO DEVEL SOFTWARE FOR THEIR NEW HARDWARE PLATFORM, HOW DO THEY REPAY THEM!With a big finger!
!Frankly, I've stopped using my fictionwise.com account, which is part of B&amp;N now.
I'll just pirate books, it's easier.
(I used to buy an ebook a week, so "easy" is quite often "click to buy".
It isn't, any more, since I have to undrm, decode and convert books to a txt based reader anyhow!
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353574</id>
	<title>iTablet iPad iWhatever will prevail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260204060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry folks, but Apple's iDevice will sweep everything else away in its wake. The company I work for just received the specifications for delivering content to the device and, based on my deductions, I honestly don't know why anyone would bother with either the Kindle or the Nook come 2010. Like the iPod touch and the iPhone, it will be just open enough to make everything else redundant.

And as for Barnes &amp; Noble and the ignoble Riggio clan: I'd like to remind you of the Wal-Mart-ization of the book business that B&amp;N wrought on the American literary landscape. Did you think it was a good thing? And you want to purchase a locked-in device from them? Good luck with that. Riggio is the Gates &amp; Ballmer of the book trade. And let's also stop and consider his influence in the BILLION DOLLAR textbook business. He has a frakking pigolopoly on college bookstores.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry folks , but Apple 's iDevice will sweep everything else away in its wake .
The company I work for just received the specifications for delivering content to the device and , based on my deductions , I honestly do n't know why anyone would bother with either the Kindle or the Nook come 2010 .
Like the iPod touch and the iPhone , it will be just open enough to make everything else redundant .
And as for Barnes &amp; Noble and the ignoble Riggio clan : I 'd like to remind you of the Wal-Mart-ization of the book business that B&amp;N wrought on the American literary landscape .
Did you think it was a good thing ?
And you want to purchase a locked-in device from them ?
Good luck with that .
Riggio is the Gates &amp; Ballmer of the book trade .
And let 's also stop and consider his influence in the BILLION DOLLAR textbook business .
He has a frakking pigolopoly on college bookstores .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry folks, but Apple's iDevice will sweep everything else away in its wake.
The company I work for just received the specifications for delivering content to the device and, based on my deductions, I honestly don't know why anyone would bother with either the Kindle or the Nook come 2010.
Like the iPod touch and the iPhone, it will be just open enough to make everything else redundant.
And as for Barnes &amp; Noble and the ignoble Riggio clan: I'd like to remind you of the Wal-Mart-ization of the book business that B&amp;N wrought on the American literary landscape.
Did you think it was a good thing?
And you want to purchase a locked-in device from them?
Good luck with that.
Riggio is the Gates &amp; Ballmer of the book trade.
And let's also stop and consider his influence in the BILLION DOLLAR textbook business.
He has a frakking pigolopoly on college bookstores.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351882</id>
	<title>Re:outisde the US?</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1260196260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>will this be available to rest of us mere mortals living outside the US (like Europe)?</p><p>i can get the kindle and the sony reader so would i have to wait forever for this?</p></div><p>At the moment, everyone is waiting forever.  If you were to order one today you wouldn't see it until sometime in January.</p><p>At the moment, the nook is limited to US customers.  I don't think its 3G will even roam outside the US.  You could always use the Wi-Fi...  But I'm not sure how well that would work.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>will this be available to rest of us mere mortals living outside the US ( like Europe ) ? i can get the kindle and the sony reader so would i have to wait forever for this ? At the moment , everyone is waiting forever .
If you were to order one today you would n't see it until sometime in January.At the moment , the nook is limited to US customers .
I do n't think its 3G will even roam outside the US .
You could always use the Wi-Fi... But I 'm not sure how well that would work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>will this be available to rest of us mere mortals living outside the US (like Europe)?i can get the kindle and the sony reader so would i have to wait forever for this?At the moment, everyone is waiting forever.
If you were to order one today you wouldn't see it until sometime in January.At the moment, the nook is limited to US customers.
I don't think its 3G will even roam outside the US.
You could always use the Wi-Fi...  But I'm not sure how well that would work.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353140</id>
	<title>Re:WiFi</title>
	<author>Zerth</author>
	<datestamp>1260202200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Kindle DX reads PDFs natively, the kindle 2 supposedly just got updated to also do so, but I haven't tried yet.   Either way, you can convert it on your own with free software instead of sending it in.</p><p>All of them can read txt, html, mobi, even jpg and a bunch of formats I never use.</p><p>Just remember to back up your books to a computer so they can't 1984 you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Kindle DX reads PDFs natively , the kindle 2 supposedly just got updated to also do so , but I have n't tried yet .
Either way , you can convert it on your own with free software instead of sending it in.All of them can read txt , html , mobi , even jpg and a bunch of formats I never use.Just remember to back up your books to a computer so they ca n't 1984 you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Kindle DX reads PDFs natively, the kindle 2 supposedly just got updated to also do so, but I haven't tried yet.
Either way, you can convert it on your own with free software instead of sending it in.All of them can read txt, html, mobi, even jpg and a bunch of formats I never use.Just remember to back up your books to a computer so they can't 1984 you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353588</id>
	<title>Most significant since when?</title>
	<author>MaWeiTao</author>
	<datestamp>1260204120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>the most significant e-reader since Amazon's original Kindle</p></div></blockquote><p>I didn't realize there were dozens of other e-readers that have entered market between the Kindle and the Nook. This is the third, maybe fourth e-reader to have been introduced.</p><p>I'm reminded of stupid sports reporters who love to refer to everything in streaks. Two game winning streak! The most runs scored in a game since two weeks ago! Congratulations!</p><p>I'm not sure what's with this trend in recent years for Americans to be obsessed with product killers. What's with this notion that there needs to be a single dominant device? Can't two or these of these readers co-exist? It's like a self-imposed monopoly. Ignorant consumers hear this nonsense and they all have to jump on the bandwagon and go with whatever is perceived as dominant.  And if a company is lucky enough to have that image as part of their brand, like Apple, then it's even more absurd. At this point all Apple has to do is introduce a reader incorporating their famous industrial design and it will be a surefire hit.</p><p>I'm fairly certain this is crippling upstarts, preventing them from being competitive. It's tough to lure investors if they aren't willing to commit over the long term. Everything has to be a something-killer and has to be able to do it overnight.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the most significant e-reader since Amazon 's original KindleI did n't realize there were dozens of other e-readers that have entered market between the Kindle and the Nook .
This is the third , maybe fourth e-reader to have been introduced.I 'm reminded of stupid sports reporters who love to refer to everything in streaks .
Two game winning streak !
The most runs scored in a game since two weeks ago !
Congratulations ! I 'm not sure what 's with this trend in recent years for Americans to be obsessed with product killers .
What 's with this notion that there needs to be a single dominant device ?
Ca n't two or these of these readers co-exist ?
It 's like a self-imposed monopoly .
Ignorant consumers hear this nonsense and they all have to jump on the bandwagon and go with whatever is perceived as dominant .
And if a company is lucky enough to have that image as part of their brand , like Apple , then it 's even more absurd .
At this point all Apple has to do is introduce a reader incorporating their famous industrial design and it will be a surefire hit.I 'm fairly certain this is crippling upstarts , preventing them from being competitive .
It 's tough to lure investors if they are n't willing to commit over the long term .
Everything has to be a something-killer and has to be able to do it overnight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the most significant e-reader since Amazon's original KindleI didn't realize there were dozens of other e-readers that have entered market between the Kindle and the Nook.
This is the third, maybe fourth e-reader to have been introduced.I'm reminded of stupid sports reporters who love to refer to everything in streaks.
Two game winning streak!
The most runs scored in a game since two weeks ago!
Congratulations!I'm not sure what's with this trend in recent years for Americans to be obsessed with product killers.
What's with this notion that there needs to be a single dominant device?
Can't two or these of these readers co-exist?
It's like a self-imposed monopoly.
Ignorant consumers hear this nonsense and they all have to jump on the bandwagon and go with whatever is perceived as dominant.
And if a company is lucky enough to have that image as part of their brand, like Apple, then it's even more absurd.
At this point all Apple has to do is introduce a reader incorporating their famous industrial design and it will be a surefire hit.I'm fairly certain this is crippling upstarts, preventing them from being competitive.
It's tough to lure investors if they aren't willing to commit over the long term.
Everything has to be a something-killer and has to be able to do it overnight.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30357018</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy either?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260176460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Easy: it depends on what you think the value of your dollar is. And you since you answered your own question by bringing up a netbook, the riddle is solved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Easy : it depends on what you think the value of your dollar is .
And you since you answered your own question by bringing up a netbook , the riddle is solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Easy: it depends on what you think the value of your dollar is.
And you since you answered your own question by bringing up a netbook, the riddle is solved.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351908</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351346</id>
	<title>outisde the US?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260190380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>will this be available to rest of us mere mortals living outside the US (like Europe)?</p><p>i can get the kindle and the sony reader so would i have to wait forever for this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>will this be available to rest of us mere mortals living outside the US ( like Europe ) ? i can get the kindle and the sony reader so would i have to wait forever for this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>will this be available to rest of us mere mortals living outside the US (like Europe)?i can get the kindle and the sony reader so would i have to wait forever for this?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353108</id>
	<title>Re:What does a book offer that a reader doesn't?</title>
	<author>russotto</author>
	<datestamp>1260202080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>No book burning has ever deleted an entire work from the culture.</p></div></blockquote><p>How would you know?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No book burning has ever deleted an entire work from the culture.How would you know ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No book burning has ever deleted an entire work from the culture.How would you know?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351678</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30357662</id>
	<title>Not to put too fine a point on this</title>
	<author>Nekomusume</author>
	<datestamp>1260179880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But wouldn't the Kindle have to actually be popular, rather than a niche toy, before it makes sense to refer to something else as a kindle-killer?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But would n't the Kindle have to actually be popular , rather than a niche toy , before it makes sense to refer to something else as a kindle-killer ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But wouldn't the Kindle have to actually be popular, rather than a niche toy, before it makes sense to refer to something else as a kindle-killer?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351908</id>
	<title>Why buy either?</title>
	<author>dfdashh</author>
	<datestamp>1260196380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Could someone please explain the advantage of a dedicated e-book reader? I don't understand why I would buy either when I can get a netbook for $50 more (at worst) that can read both PDFs and Amazon e-books. Is it the battery life of these things, or is the hardware form factor really nice? I don't know.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could someone please explain the advantage of a dedicated e-book reader ?
I do n't understand why I would buy either when I can get a netbook for $ 50 more ( at worst ) that can read both PDFs and Amazon e-books .
Is it the battery life of these things , or is the hardware form factor really nice ?
I do n't know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could someone please explain the advantage of a dedicated e-book reader?
I don't understand why I would buy either when I can get a netbook for $50 more (at worst) that can read both PDFs and Amazon e-books.
Is it the battery life of these things, or is the hardware form factor really nice?
I don't know.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352258</id>
	<title>Re:wtb more booklike reader</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260198000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you used an eBook, like daily?</p><p>Its better the way it is. The reading is more natural, its easier to hold, its easier to use than a book in confined settings (or laying in bed, I've found).</p><p>Just because books had facing pages for 400 years doesn't mean its automatically the ultimate user experience for reading<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you used an eBook , like daily ? Its better the way it is .
The reading is more natural , its easier to hold , its easier to use than a book in confined settings ( or laying in bed , I 've found ) .Just because books had facing pages for 400 years does n't mean its automatically the ultimate user experience for reading .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you used an eBook, like daily?Its better the way it is.
The reading is more natural, its easier to hold, its easier to use than a book in confined settings (or laying in bed, I've found).Just because books had facing pages for 400 years doesn't mean its automatically the ultimate user experience for reading ...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351248</id>
	<title>Kindle killer?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260189300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Amazon's reluctance to let the gadget out of the US market earlier makes the Kindle just another e-book reader, it has no iconic status that would warrant the "killer" adjective for any competitors, who are competing against it  in equal footing pretty much everywhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Amazon 's reluctance to let the gadget out of the US market earlier makes the Kindle just another e-book reader , it has no iconic status that would warrant the " killer " adjective for any competitors , who are competing against it in equal footing pretty much everywhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amazon's reluctance to let the gadget out of the US market earlier makes the Kindle just another e-book reader, it has no iconic status that would warrant the "killer" adjective for any competitors, who are competing against it  in equal footing pretty much everywhere.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351444</id>
	<title>wtb more booklike reader</title>
	<author>mooglez</author>
	<datestamp>1260191940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wake me up when there's an ebook reader that works more like a real book.</p><p>It should have softish covers, and once you open it, there should be 2 screens inside (one for each page).</p><p>This way the screens would be protected all the time, and it would feel more natural as a reading tool</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wake me up when there 's an ebook reader that works more like a real book.It should have softish covers , and once you open it , there should be 2 screens inside ( one for each page ) .This way the screens would be protected all the time , and it would feel more natural as a reading tool</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wake me up when there's an ebook reader that works more like a real book.It should have softish covers, and once you open it, there should be 2 screens inside (one for each page).This way the screens would be protected all the time, and it would feel more natural as a reading tool</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352870</id>
	<title>Re:Chinese generic 13" reader?</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1260200760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perhaps once the essential patents on e-ink expire in a decade or two. Otherwise, Customs will just stop them at the border.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps once the essential patents on e-ink expire in a decade or two .
Otherwise , Customs will just stop them at the border .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps once the essential patents on e-ink expire in a decade or two.
Otherwise, Customs will just stop them at the border.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351618</id>
	<title>Re:wtb more booklike reader</title>
	<author>Starayo</author>
	<datestamp>1260194340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A bit like the <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5365299/courier-first-details-of-microsofts-secret-tablet" title="gizmodo.com">Microsoft Courier?</a> [gizmodo.com] Though that's a tablet. I'd like one if they work well though, they look really nifty.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</htmltext>
<tokenext>A bit like the Microsoft Courier ?
[ gizmodo.com ] Though that 's a tablet .
I 'd like one if they work well though , they look really nifty .
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A bit like the Microsoft Courier?
[gizmodo.com] Though that's a tablet.
I'd like one if they work well though, they look really nifty.
:P</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30354586</id>
	<title>Re:Mandatory AT&amp;T contract?</title>
	<author>AmiMoJo</author>
	<datestamp>1260208200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It will read PDFs</p></div></blockquote><p>The problem is that PDFs are usually designed for A4 or A5 paper, not the small eBook reader screen. Scrolling around when screen updates take 3-4 seconds is painful.</p><p>When I read about the colour LCD I was hoping it would be overlaid on the eInk screen. That way it could give you a fast but less readable preview to help navigation, with the eInk screen kicking in a second or two later.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It will read PDFsThe problem is that PDFs are usually designed for A4 or A5 paper , not the small eBook reader screen .
Scrolling around when screen updates take 3-4 seconds is painful.When I read about the colour LCD I was hoping it would be overlaid on the eInk screen .
That way it could give you a fast but less readable preview to help navigation , with the eInk screen kicking in a second or two later .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will read PDFsThe problem is that PDFs are usually designed for A4 or A5 paper, not the small eBook reader screen.
Scrolling around when screen updates take 3-4 seconds is painful.When I read about the colour LCD I was hoping it would be overlaid on the eInk screen.
That way it could give you a fast but less readable preview to help navigation, with the eInk screen kicking in a second or two later.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353710</id>
	<title>Re:WiFi</title>
	<author>vcgodinich</author>
	<datestamp>1260204720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can't buy books outside the US on the Nook, only download those that you already bought, over wifi only. <p>I guess you COULD remote to a computer in the US, buy the book, then download it over your wifi, but not magazines or newspapers (can't download them over wifi at all).</p><p>Or you could just buy an international Kindle and use the device as it's meant to be used.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't buy books outside the US on the Nook , only download those that you already bought , over wifi only .
I guess you COULD remote to a computer in the US , buy the book , then download it over your wifi , but not magazines or newspapers ( ca n't download them over wifi at all ) .Or you could just buy an international Kindle and use the device as it 's meant to be used .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't buy books outside the US on the Nook, only download those that you already bought, over wifi only.
I guess you COULD remote to a computer in the US, buy the book, then download it over your wifi, but not magazines or newspapers (can't download them over wifi at all).Or you could just buy an international Kindle and use the device as it's meant to be used.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351206</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352248</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy either?</title>
	<author>slim</author>
	<datestamp>1260198000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Definitely e-ink is the feature that makes these special.</p><p>
&nbsp; - Much more readable, because it reflects rather than transmits light<br>
&nbsp; - Readable in bright conditions, for the same reason<br>
&nbsp; - Low power drain when showing static pages</p><p>Ironically, in a way, e-ink isn't good for much *except* e-readers (yet) because of the cost, the fact it's monochrome and the poor refresh rate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Definitely e-ink is the feature that makes these special .
  - Much more readable , because it reflects rather than transmits light   - Readable in bright conditions , for the same reason   - Low power drain when showing static pagesIronically , in a way , e-ink is n't good for much * except * e-readers ( yet ) because of the cost , the fact it 's monochrome and the poor refresh rate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Definitely e-ink is the feature that makes these special.
  - Much more readable, because it reflects rather than transmits light
  - Readable in bright conditions, for the same reason
  - Low power drain when showing static pagesIronically, in a way, e-ink isn't good for much *except* e-readers (yet) because of the cost, the fact it's monochrome and the poor refresh rate.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351908</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351824</id>
	<title>Re:Mandatory AT&amp;T contract?</title>
	<author>zaq1xsw2cde9</author>
	<datestamp>1260195960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Nook is the same as the Kindle in that respect.  The contract for service belongs to the device and is lifetime no cost for the owner of the e-book.  The 3G company doesn't even know who you are to charge you.  That contract is handled between the manufacturer and the 3G company OEM.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Nook is the same as the Kindle in that respect .
The contract for service belongs to the device and is lifetime no cost for the owner of the e-book .
The 3G company does n't even know who you are to charge you .
That contract is handled between the manufacturer and the 3G company OEM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Nook is the same as the Kindle in that respect.
The contract for service belongs to the device and is lifetime no cost for the owner of the e-book.
The 3G company doesn't even know who you are to charge you.
That contract is handled between the manufacturer and the 3G company OEM.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351398</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30355024</id>
	<title>Re:WiFi</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1260210000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least initially, though, you won't be able to buy any books from B&amp;N when you're outside the USA, even via WiFi.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least initially , though , you wo n't be able to buy any books from B&amp;N when you 're outside the USA , even via WiFi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least initially, though, you won't be able to buy any books from B&amp;N when you're outside the USA, even via WiFi.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351206</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30358822</id>
	<title>Re:Mandatory AT&amp;T contract?</title>
	<author>innocent\_white\_lamb</author>
	<datestamp>1260186300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The problem is that PDFs are usually designed for A4 or A5 paper</i> <br>
&nbsp; <br>Unless I'm missing something, why is this a problem?<br>
&nbsp; <br>I reformat txt and html files and create pdf files all the time.  Create a custom page size in Openffice, load document, print-to-pdf.  Done, in any page size and with the margin settings and font sizes that you specify.<br>
&nbsp; <br>If you have a pdf already, just rip the text out of it with something like pdftotext or pdftohtml, then go to step one above.<br>
&nbsp; <br>You can create a pdf custom-made in exactly the size you want for reading on any screen size.  It might take five minutes of fiddling around, but if you're planning to spend a couple of days reading a novel then five minutes to get it set up isn't too onerous.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is that PDFs are usually designed for A4 or A5 paper   Unless I 'm missing something , why is this a problem ?
  I reformat txt and html files and create pdf files all the time .
Create a custom page size in Openffice , load document , print-to-pdf .
Done , in any page size and with the margin settings and font sizes that you specify .
  If you have a pdf already , just rip the text out of it with something like pdftotext or pdftohtml , then go to step one above .
  You can create a pdf custom-made in exactly the size you want for reading on any screen size .
It might take five minutes of fiddling around , but if you 're planning to spend a couple of days reading a novel then five minutes to get it set up is n't too onerous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is that PDFs are usually designed for A4 or A5 paper 
  Unless I'm missing something, why is this a problem?
  I reformat txt and html files and create pdf files all the time.
Create a custom page size in Openffice, load document, print-to-pdf.
Done, in any page size and with the margin settings and font sizes that you specify.
  If you have a pdf already, just rip the text out of it with something like pdftotext or pdftohtml, then go to step one above.
  You can create a pdf custom-made in exactly the size you want for reading on any screen size.
It might take five minutes of fiddling around, but if you're planning to spend a couple of days reading a novel then five minutes to get it set up isn't too onerous.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30354586</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30355882</id>
	<title>Re:Killer</title>
	<author>lazyforker</author>
	<datestamp>1260214140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Isn't there an enormous cost (in energy) associated with turning trees into paper? I'm talking about the energy required to cut the trees down, transport them, process them into paper, transport the paper, print the books, ship the books to the stores etc.  Then what happens to those old books?  Granted - many get "recycled" by being gifted/loaned/donated - but the remainder end up in landfill.  Which bacteria/muchers eat books and what do they excrete?
<br>I'm no fan of electronic waste - it's downright nasty - but one e-book reader will replace the 50-60 books I buy a year.  I was really hoping the Nook would be the one.  I love Android; and the sharing features make sense to me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't there an enormous cost ( in energy ) associated with turning trees into paper ?
I 'm talking about the energy required to cut the trees down , transport them , process them into paper , transport the paper , print the books , ship the books to the stores etc .
Then what happens to those old books ?
Granted - many get " recycled " by being gifted/loaned/donated - but the remainder end up in landfill .
Which bacteria/muchers eat books and what do they excrete ?
I 'm no fan of electronic waste - it 's downright nasty - but one e-book reader will replace the 50-60 books I buy a year .
I was really hoping the Nook would be the one .
I love Android ; and the sharing features make sense to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't there an enormous cost (in energy) associated with turning trees into paper?
I'm talking about the energy required to cut the trees down, transport them, process them into paper, transport the paper, print the books, ship the books to the stores etc.
Then what happens to those old books?
Granted - many get "recycled" by being gifted/loaned/donated - but the remainder end up in landfill.
Which bacteria/muchers eat books and what do they excrete?
I'm no fan of electronic waste - it's downright nasty - but one e-book reader will replace the 50-60 books I buy a year.
I was really hoping the Nook would be the one.
I love Android; and the sharing features make sense to me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30354286</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353910</id>
	<title>Re:Why buy either?</title>
	<author>ThousandStars</author>
	<datestamp>1260205440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think the above is a troll, but just in case...<p>Unless you're blind, you've probably noticed that the screens on netbooks are terrible and that the "resolution" of paper is very nice. Most of us wouldn't want to spend eight hours reading a book on a netbook screen but would be more than happy to do so with a paperback. Consequently, the Kindle and Nook are trying to emulate paper rather than computer screens, and they do so fairly well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the above is a troll , but just in case...Unless you 're blind , you 've probably noticed that the screens on netbooks are terrible and that the " resolution " of paper is very nice .
Most of us would n't want to spend eight hours reading a book on a netbook screen but would be more than happy to do so with a paperback .
Consequently , the Kindle and Nook are trying to emulate paper rather than computer screens , and they do so fairly well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the above is a troll, but just in case...Unless you're blind, you've probably noticed that the screens on netbooks are terrible and that the "resolution" of paper is very nice.
Most of us wouldn't want to spend eight hours reading a book on a netbook screen but would be more than happy to do so with a paperback.
Consequently, the Kindle and Nook are trying to emulate paper rather than computer screens, and they do so fairly well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351908</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352178</id>
	<title>Re:WiFi</title>
	<author>tgd</author>
	<datestamp>1260197760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think a bird watcher guide probably works better with color<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think a bird watcher guide probably works better with color .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think a bird watcher guide probably works better with color ...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351206</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352698</id>
	<title>Re:What does a book offer that a reader doesn't?</title>
	<author>Nikkos</author>
	<datestamp>1260199920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"No book burning has ever deleted an entire work from the culture"</p></div><p>That we know of.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" No book burning has ever deleted an entire work from the culture " That we know of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"No book burning has ever deleted an entire work from the culture"That we know of.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351678</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351330</id>
	<title>Re:WiFi</title>
	<author>DeathToBill</author>
	<datestamp>1260190080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So it's a pity thing is only available in the US...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So it 's a pity thing is only available in the US.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So it's a pity thing is only available in the US...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351758</id>
	<title>Kindle PDF Support</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260195540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>There was new firmware recently released (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200324680" title="amazon.com">Amazon release notes</a> [amazon.com]) that adds, among other things like longer battery life, native PDF reader support to the Kindle 2. (Note, the Kindle DX had native PDF support since it was released months ago.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>There was new firmware recently released ( Amazon release notes [ amazon.com ] ) that adds , among other things like longer battery life , native PDF reader support to the Kindle 2 .
( Note , the Kindle DX had native PDF support since it was released months ago .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There was new firmware recently released (Amazon release notes [amazon.com]) that adds, among other things like longer battery life, native PDF reader support to the Kindle 2.
(Note, the Kindle DX had native PDF support since it was released months ago.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351952</id>
	<title>Re:WiFi</title>
	<author>Geeky Don</author>
	<datestamp>1260196560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Birdwatcher's guide in B&amp;W?  Seems of limited usefulness...but then, I'm not a birdwatcher.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Birdwatcher 's guide in B&amp;W ?
Seems of limited usefulness...but then , I 'm not a birdwatcher .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Birdwatcher's guide in B&amp;W?
Seems of limited usefulness...but then, I'm not a birdwatcher.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30354532</id>
	<title>Re:To beat Kindle you need better policy</title>
	<author>JoeF</author>
	<datestamp>1260207960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's why I'll won't buy a Kindle. I pre-ordered a Nook, and should get it soon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's why I 'll wo n't buy a Kindle .
I pre-ordered a Nook , and should get it soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's why I'll won't buy a Kindle.
I pre-ordered a Nook, and should get it soon.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30368278</id>
	<title>CURIOUS</title>
	<author>spraguetc201</author>
	<datestamp>1260300780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have never used one of these devices before but I would like to try! Probably not for around $250 though. With the way that I am, I would be scared of breaking them like i do every cell phone i've ever had. Can anyone tell me how durable they are? Perhaps in comparison to your average cell phone... I think they are a great idea and definitely a very useful device.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have never used one of these devices before but I would like to try !
Probably not for around $ 250 though .
With the way that I am , I would be scared of breaking them like i do every cell phone i 've ever had .
Can anyone tell me how durable they are ?
Perhaps in comparison to your average cell phone... I think they are a great idea and definitely a very useful device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have never used one of these devices before but I would like to try!
Probably not for around $250 though.
With the way that I am, I would be scared of breaking them like i do every cell phone i've ever had.
Can anyone tell me how durable they are?
Perhaps in comparison to your average cell phone... I think they are a great idea and definitely a very useful device.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30354178</id>
	<title>Re:Mandatory AT&amp;T contract?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260206700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) Wireless is free (paid by B&amp;N).<br>2) It has no browser, so no support for standard protocols.<br>3) WIFI is currently another way to pull software updates.<br>4) Over USB it comes up as mass storage (and charges the battery).  If you add your own Micro-SD card it comes up as two mass storage devices.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Wireless is free ( paid by B&amp;N ) .2 ) It has no browser , so no support for standard protocols.3 ) WIFI is currently another way to pull software updates.4 ) Over USB it comes up as mass storage ( and charges the battery ) .
If you add your own Micro-SD card it comes up as two mass storage devices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Wireless is free (paid by B&amp;N).2) It has no browser, so no support for standard protocols.3) WIFI is currently another way to pull software updates.4) Over USB it comes up as mass storage (and charges the battery).
If you add your own Micro-SD card it comes up as two mass storage devices.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30356392</id>
	<title>Re:What does a book offer that a reader doesn't?</title>
	<author>brkello</author>
	<datestamp>1260216600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You are kidding, right?  Books decay and become unreadable unless taken care of.  So one company bans a book...you don't think it exists elsewhere?  Maybe because our lives are so short you think that, but books are hardly permanent.  I imagine digital versions of things will last much longer than anything physical.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You are kidding , right ?
Books decay and become unreadable unless taken care of .
So one company bans a book...you do n't think it exists elsewhere ?
Maybe because our lives are so short you think that , but books are hardly permanent .
I imagine digital versions of things will last much longer than anything physical .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are kidding, right?
Books decay and become unreadable unless taken care of.
So one company bans a book...you don't think it exists elsewhere?
Maybe because our lives are so short you think that, but books are hardly permanent.
I imagine digital versions of things will last much longer than anything physical.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30356224</id>
	<title>Re:Kindle killer?</title>
	<author>vcgodinich</author>
	<datestamp>1260215880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Except the Nook doesn't have international support at all. So they are in no way competing on equal footing. <p>I hate to say this, but your post is almost 100\% incorrect and wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except the Nook does n't have international support at all .
So they are in no way competing on equal footing .
I hate to say this , but your post is almost 100 \ % incorrect and wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except the Nook doesn't have international support at all.
So they are in no way competing on equal footing.
I hate to say this, but your post is almost 100\% incorrect and wrong.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351246</id>
	<title>To beat Kindle you need better policy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260189300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps it is my slashdot bias, but the story about Kindles having books removed from readers' machines still strikes a sour chord with me.  I recognize that most consumers don't know a thing about and many don't care.  I don't see much difference between book burning and book deleting.  To me the reasons, are irrelevant.  Abuse will always emerge when opportunity is given.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps it is my slashdot bias , but the story about Kindles having books removed from readers ' machines still strikes a sour chord with me .
I recognize that most consumers do n't know a thing about and many do n't care .
I do n't see much difference between book burning and book deleting .
To me the reasons , are irrelevant .
Abuse will always emerge when opportunity is given .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps it is my slashdot bias, but the story about Kindles having books removed from readers' machines still strikes a sour chord with me.
I recognize that most consumers don't know a thing about and many don't care.
I don't see much difference between book burning and book deleting.
To me the reasons, are irrelevant.
Abuse will always emerge when opportunity is given.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353008</id>
	<title>Kindle</title>
	<author>Stormcrow309</author>
	<datestamp>1260201480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Having a kindle and a tendency of reading more then the average geek, due to my Ph.D. work (I read about a Robert Jordon book and a half a day between work-school-pleasure reading, not considering websites and email).  I love my kindle for pleasure reading, but find that it does not do a good job for academic or professional reading where one has to cite the work.  The form factor works for me, where a DX would be a little too large. I can do about four page flips per second with my kindle, which isn't too bad.</p><p>The PDF function works for me since the firmware update, but I don't read game manuals or such.  Mostly I read journal articles and vendor documents.  I prefer to print those out, since my note taking methodology is kindle-incompatable.  I am building summary of the articles I am reading for annotated outlines, so it makes sense to print for my type of work.</p><p>What I like the best about the Kindle is the portability mixed with readability and battery life.  I have mobipocket on my windows phone and could be a pain at times to read, due to the eye strain and backlight sucking the life out of the battery.  I use a book light, which has an advantage with regular books and journal articles.  In all, the kindle works for me.</p><p>I do have the Kindle app for the PC, but it doesn't really work for me.  I wished they did have one for the android phone, just when I can't take my bag with me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having a kindle and a tendency of reading more then the average geek , due to my Ph.D. work ( I read about a Robert Jordon book and a half a day between work-school-pleasure reading , not considering websites and email ) .
I love my kindle for pleasure reading , but find that it does not do a good job for academic or professional reading where one has to cite the work .
The form factor works for me , where a DX would be a little too large .
I can do about four page flips per second with my kindle , which is n't too bad.The PDF function works for me since the firmware update , but I do n't read game manuals or such .
Mostly I read journal articles and vendor documents .
I prefer to print those out , since my note taking methodology is kindle-incompatable .
I am building summary of the articles I am reading for annotated outlines , so it makes sense to print for my type of work.What I like the best about the Kindle is the portability mixed with readability and battery life .
I have mobipocket on my windows phone and could be a pain at times to read , due to the eye strain and backlight sucking the life out of the battery .
I use a book light , which has an advantage with regular books and journal articles .
In all , the kindle works for me.I do have the Kindle app for the PC , but it does n't really work for me .
I wished they did have one for the android phone , just when I ca n't take my bag with me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having a kindle and a tendency of reading more then the average geek, due to my Ph.D. work (I read about a Robert Jordon book and a half a day between work-school-pleasure reading, not considering websites and email).
I love my kindle for pleasure reading, but find that it does not do a good job for academic or professional reading where one has to cite the work.
The form factor works for me, where a DX would be a little too large.
I can do about four page flips per second with my kindle, which isn't too bad.The PDF function works for me since the firmware update, but I don't read game manuals or such.
Mostly I read journal articles and vendor documents.
I prefer to print those out, since my note taking methodology is kindle-incompatable.
I am building summary of the articles I am reading for annotated outlines, so it makes sense to print for my type of work.What I like the best about the Kindle is the portability mixed with readability and battery life.
I have mobipocket on my windows phone and could be a pain at times to read, due to the eye strain and backlight sucking the life out of the battery.
I use a book light, which has an advantage with regular books and journal articles.
In all, the kindle works for me.I do have the Kindle app for the PC, but it doesn't really work for me.
I wished they did have one for the android phone, just when I can't take my bag with me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30356850</id>
	<title>Re:To beat Kindle you need better policy</title>
	<author>IronChef</author>
	<datestamp>1260218880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was with 3 other people for dinner the other night, none of them geeks in ANY way... When ebooks came up, 2 of them had heard the Kindle 1984 story and it gave them the willies. "They can just delete my stuff?"</p><p>Based on this massive sample I will say that Joe Public may be more aware of the problem than we give him credit for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was with 3 other people for dinner the other night , none of them geeks in ANY way... When ebooks came up , 2 of them had heard the Kindle 1984 story and it gave them the willies .
" They can just delete my stuff ?
" Based on this massive sample I will say that Joe Public may be more aware of the problem than we give him credit for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was with 3 other people for dinner the other night, none of them geeks in ANY way... When ebooks came up, 2 of them had heard the Kindle 1984 story and it gave them the willies.
"They can just delete my stuff?
"Based on this massive sample I will say that Joe Public may be more aware of the problem than we give him credit for.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352196</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Need a Kindle Killer, Exactly</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1260197760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Just need something that forces Amazon to keep innovating and keep pricing competitive.</p></div></blockquote><p>We also need an e-reader that is <i>not tied to a particular retailer of e-books.</i></p><p>When I can buy books from Amazon to play on my Nook, and vice-versa, then we'll have innovation and keep prices "competitive".</p><p>That's why we need a universal e-reader that will play books from <i>any</i> bookseller, much as we can now buy mp3 files from any music seller which will play on our portable media players.</p><p>But I'm hopeful.  How long did it take before Apple had to allow non-AAC audio files to play on the first-gen iPods?  They only did that because other companies started making players that would play the widely available mp3 files.</p><p>So the real competition for Kindle (and Nook) will come when someone (Sansa) starts building a reader that will play any books you buy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just need something that forces Amazon to keep innovating and keep pricing competitive.We also need an e-reader that is not tied to a particular retailer of e-books.When I can buy books from Amazon to play on my Nook , and vice-versa , then we 'll have innovation and keep prices " competitive " .That 's why we need a universal e-reader that will play books from any bookseller , much as we can now buy mp3 files from any music seller which will play on our portable media players.But I 'm hopeful .
How long did it take before Apple had to allow non-AAC audio files to play on the first-gen iPods ?
They only did that because other companies started making players that would play the widely available mp3 files.So the real competition for Kindle ( and Nook ) will come when someone ( Sansa ) starts building a reader that will play any books you buy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just need something that forces Amazon to keep innovating and keep pricing competitive.We also need an e-reader that is not tied to a particular retailer of e-books.When I can buy books from Amazon to play on my Nook, and vice-versa, then we'll have innovation and keep prices "competitive".That's why we need a universal e-reader that will play books from any bookseller, much as we can now buy mp3 files from any music seller which will play on our portable media players.But I'm hopeful.
How long did it take before Apple had to allow non-AAC audio files to play on the first-gen iPods?
They only did that because other companies started making players that would play the widely available mp3 files.So the real competition for Kindle (and Nook) will come when someone (Sansa) starts building a reader that will play any books you buy.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352046</id>
	<title>Re:While it may not be a "Kindle Killer"...</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1260196980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The Kindle does have one disadvantage that is making me give the Nook a stronger look.</p><p>PDF's.</p><p>I buy a lot of Role Playing materials from Steve Jackson Games' "e23" site. They are in very high quality PDF documents and something that can display them without having to lug around a large, heavy, and massively power hungry laptop is a god send.</p><p>However, even though I legally own a copy of the PDF, Amazon refused to convert the PDF into a Kindle Ready file due to (as I was informed) copyright issues.</p><p>The Nook supports PDF out of the box and the internal file storage as well as the expansion slot gives me the room for all of the PDF's that I have.</p><p>So while it might not be a Kindle Killer, it has some features that put it close enough to the Kindle to make it a worthwhile contender.</p></div><p>I understand that the Kindle has recently added full support for PDFs...  I'm not sure how this differs from the not-full support they had before...  But your PDFs might work now.  Maybe.  Possibly.</p><p>But this is one of the main reasons I ordered a nook this season, instead of a Kindle.  Full, native support for PDFs and an SD card slot mean that I can put pretty much anything on it that I want to.  Even things that aren't already in a supported format can easily be converted to PDFs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Kindle does have one disadvantage that is making me give the Nook a stronger look.PDF 's.I buy a lot of Role Playing materials from Steve Jackson Games ' " e23 " site .
They are in very high quality PDF documents and something that can display them without having to lug around a large , heavy , and massively power hungry laptop is a god send.However , even though I legally own a copy of the PDF , Amazon refused to convert the PDF into a Kindle Ready file due to ( as I was informed ) copyright issues.The Nook supports PDF out of the box and the internal file storage as well as the expansion slot gives me the room for all of the PDF 's that I have.So while it might not be a Kindle Killer , it has some features that put it close enough to the Kindle to make it a worthwhile contender.I understand that the Kindle has recently added full support for PDFs... I 'm not sure how this differs from the not-full support they had before... But your PDFs might work now .
Maybe. Possibly.But this is one of the main reasons I ordered a nook this season , instead of a Kindle .
Full , native support for PDFs and an SD card slot mean that I can put pretty much anything on it that I want to .
Even things that are n't already in a supported format can easily be converted to PDFs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Kindle does have one disadvantage that is making me give the Nook a stronger look.PDF's.I buy a lot of Role Playing materials from Steve Jackson Games' "e23" site.
They are in very high quality PDF documents and something that can display them without having to lug around a large, heavy, and massively power hungry laptop is a god send.However, even though I legally own a copy of the PDF, Amazon refused to convert the PDF into a Kindle Ready file due to (as I was informed) copyright issues.The Nook supports PDF out of the box and the internal file storage as well as the expansion slot gives me the room for all of the PDF's that I have.So while it might not be a Kindle Killer, it has some features that put it close enough to the Kindle to make it a worthwhile contender.I understand that the Kindle has recently added full support for PDFs...  I'm not sure how this differs from the not-full support they had before...  But your PDFs might work now.
Maybe.  Possibly.But this is one of the main reasons I ordered a nook this season, instead of a Kindle.
Full, native support for PDFs and an SD card slot mean that I can put pretty much anything on it that I want to.
Even things that aren't already in a supported format can easily be converted to PDFs.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30358994</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Need a Kindle Killer, Exactly</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260187320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TFA basically says that the Nook is by and large equivalent to the Kindle, with both a few pluses as well as a few minuses. It provides competition to the Kindle, but doesn't up the ante any. (The reviewer noted that the color touchscreen, the Nook's most notable advantage, was plagued by a particularly slow, buggy, and poorly-designed UI.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA basically says that the Nook is by and large equivalent to the Kindle , with both a few pluses as well as a few minuses .
It provides competition to the Kindle , but does n't up the ante any .
( The reviewer noted that the color touchscreen , the Nook 's most notable advantage , was plagued by a particularly slow , buggy , and poorly-designed UI .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA basically says that the Nook is by and large equivalent to the Kindle, with both a few pluses as well as a few minuses.
It provides competition to the Kindle, but doesn't up the ante any.
(The reviewer noted that the color touchscreen, the Nook's most notable advantage, was plagued by a particularly slow, buggy, and poorly-designed UI.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351182</id>
	<title>Killer</title>
	<author>Zerak-Tul</author>
	<datestamp>1260188520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>What e-books need is not a kindle-killer but a dead-tree-killer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What e-books need is not a kindle-killer but a dead-tree-killer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What e-books need is not a kindle-killer but a dead-tree-killer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351504</id>
	<title>While it may not be a "Kindle Killer"...</title>
	<author>Phoenix</author>
	<datestamp>1260193020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Kindle does have one disadvantage that is making me give the Nook a stronger look.</p><p>PDF's.</p><p>I buy a lot of Role Playing materials from Steve Jackson Games' "e23" site. They are in very high quality PDF documents and something that can display them without having to lug around a large, heavy, and massively power hungry laptop is a god send.</p><p>However, even though I legally own a copy of the PDF, Amazon refused to convert the PDF into a Kindle Ready file due to (as I was informed) copyright issues.</p><p>The Nook supports PDF out of the box and the internal file storage as well as the expansion slot gives me the room for all of the PDF's that I have.</p><p>So while it might not be a Kindle Killer, it has some features that put it close enough to the Kindle to make it a worthwhile contender.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Kindle does have one disadvantage that is making me give the Nook a stronger look.PDF 's.I buy a lot of Role Playing materials from Steve Jackson Games ' " e23 " site .
They are in very high quality PDF documents and something that can display them without having to lug around a large , heavy , and massively power hungry laptop is a god send.However , even though I legally own a copy of the PDF , Amazon refused to convert the PDF into a Kindle Ready file due to ( as I was informed ) copyright issues.The Nook supports PDF out of the box and the internal file storage as well as the expansion slot gives me the room for all of the PDF 's that I have.So while it might not be a Kindle Killer , it has some features that put it close enough to the Kindle to make it a worthwhile contender .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Kindle does have one disadvantage that is making me give the Nook a stronger look.PDF's.I buy a lot of Role Playing materials from Steve Jackson Games' "e23" site.
They are in very high quality PDF documents and something that can display them without having to lug around a large, heavy, and massively power hungry laptop is a god send.However, even though I legally own a copy of the PDF, Amazon refused to convert the PDF into a Kindle Ready file due to (as I was informed) copyright issues.The Nook supports PDF out of the box and the internal file storage as well as the expansion slot gives me the room for all of the PDF's that I have.So while it might not be a Kindle Killer, it has some features that put it close enough to the Kindle to make it a worthwhile contender.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30357586</id>
	<title>Broken Record</title>
	<author>fm6</author>
	<datestamp>1260179520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am so tired of hearing "e-readers will never replace books" arguments, as if it were an all-or-nothing thing. I can well imagine stone carvers makers the same "permanence" argument against books.</p><p>E-readers still can't do a lot of what books do, but so what? Half the books I read, I read once, then give them away or return them to the library. For these, an e-reader is perfectly fine. And as the technology advances, a physical book will have fewer and fewer advantages.</p><p>Frankly, I think all this strident ranting against e-books is just people resisting having to learn new ways of doing things. Which is fine for them, but why must they lecture the rest of us all the time?</p><p>And as a writer myself, I have very little patience when this attitude shows up in the people I work with. In particular, it's a pain when editors and reviewers insist on physical copies so they can scribble comments in the margin. So then I have to decipher their handwriting and cryptic comments. And once, when I did an actual mass-market book, the publisher's editor and I had to FedEx pages back and forth, at great cost in time and money. Learn to use Acrobat, people!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am so tired of hearing " e-readers will never replace books " arguments , as if it were an all-or-nothing thing .
I can well imagine stone carvers makers the same " permanence " argument against books.E-readers still ca n't do a lot of what books do , but so what ?
Half the books I read , I read once , then give them away or return them to the library .
For these , an e-reader is perfectly fine .
And as the technology advances , a physical book will have fewer and fewer advantages.Frankly , I think all this strident ranting against e-books is just people resisting having to learn new ways of doing things .
Which is fine for them , but why must they lecture the rest of us all the time ? And as a writer myself , I have very little patience when this attitude shows up in the people I work with .
In particular , it 's a pain when editors and reviewers insist on physical copies so they can scribble comments in the margin .
So then I have to decipher their handwriting and cryptic comments .
And once , when I did an actual mass-market book , the publisher 's editor and I had to FedEx pages back and forth , at great cost in time and money .
Learn to use Acrobat , people !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am so tired of hearing "e-readers will never replace books" arguments, as if it were an all-or-nothing thing.
I can well imagine stone carvers makers the same "permanence" argument against books.E-readers still can't do a lot of what books do, but so what?
Half the books I read, I read once, then give them away or return them to the library.
For these, an e-reader is perfectly fine.
And as the technology advances, a physical book will have fewer and fewer advantages.Frankly, I think all this strident ranting against e-books is just people resisting having to learn new ways of doing things.
Which is fine for them, but why must they lecture the rest of us all the time?And as a writer myself, I have very little patience when this attitude shows up in the people I work with.
In particular, it's a pain when editors and reviewers insist on physical copies so they can scribble comments in the margin.
So then I have to decipher their handwriting and cryptic comments.
And once, when I did an actual mass-market book, the publisher's editor and I had to FedEx pages back and forth, at great cost in time and money.
Learn to use Acrobat, people!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351754</id>
	<title>Re:While it may not be a "Kindle Killer"...</title>
	<author>Psx29</author>
	<datestamp>1260195540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't own a kindle, but Amazon just added PDF support in the latest kindle models via a firmware update. There's no pan-and-zoom support though so it squishes the pdf page down to fit the screen which kind of sucks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't own a kindle , but Amazon just added PDF support in the latest kindle models via a firmware update .
There 's no pan-and-zoom support though so it squishes the pdf page down to fit the screen which kind of sucks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't own a kindle, but Amazon just added PDF support in the latest kindle models via a firmware update.
There's no pan-and-zoom support though so it squishes the pdf page down to fit the screen which kind of sucks.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351280</id>
	<title>Oh. Shit.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260189660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Damnit, I had no idea there was that much demand, and that this thing won't be available til January. I guess that kills my plans for my mom's "Atheist People Give Presents" day gift. Maybe a gift certificate and a picture of the Nook...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Damnit , I had no idea there was that much demand , and that this thing wo n't be available til January .
I guess that kills my plans for my mom 's " Atheist People Give Presents " day gift .
Maybe a gift certificate and a picture of the Nook.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Damnit, I had no idea there was that much demand, and that this thing won't be available til January.
I guess that kills my plans for my mom's "Atheist People Give Presents" day gift.
Maybe a gift certificate and a picture of the Nook...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30353056</id>
	<title>Re:While it may not be a "Kindle Killer"...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260201780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>1st gen Kindles do require conversion of PDFs, but 2nd gen and DX display PDF natively. No cooperation from Amazon needed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1st gen Kindles do require conversion of PDFs , but 2nd gen and DX display PDF natively .
No cooperation from Amazon needed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1st gen Kindles do require conversion of PDFs, but 2nd gen and DX display PDF natively.
No cooperation from Amazon needed.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30351398</id>
	<title>Mandatory AT&amp;T contract?</title>
	<author>The Cisco Kid</author>
	<datestamp>1260191160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The review mentions AT&amp;T 3G, but I couldn't find any mention of whether a new AT&amp;T contract is required to buy the device at the stated price. If it is, then fsck that. If it isn't, then 'meh'. Its still pretty expensive. Wait for v 2.0.</p><p>Also, if one plugs its USB in, does it appear as 'USB storage', that one can copy PDF's to and be able to read them? Or is one required to use its proprietary software on a proprietary platform to load only special files with DRM?</p><p>And how about on wifi? Can one use any sort of standard protocol (ssh, ftp, smb) to copy PDF's in (or out) and/or can it navigate to an arbitrary URL and download a PDF, or does it only support the device accessing company-specified websites to 'buy' books?</p><p>Bottom line - Mandatory contract bad. Mandatory proprietary software bad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The review mentions AT&amp;T 3G , but I could n't find any mention of whether a new AT&amp;T contract is required to buy the device at the stated price .
If it is , then fsck that .
If it is n't , then 'meh' .
Its still pretty expensive .
Wait for v 2.0.Also , if one plugs its USB in , does it appear as 'USB storage ' , that one can copy PDF 's to and be able to read them ?
Or is one required to use its proprietary software on a proprietary platform to load only special files with DRM ? And how about on wifi ?
Can one use any sort of standard protocol ( ssh , ftp , smb ) to copy PDF 's in ( or out ) and/or can it navigate to an arbitrary URL and download a PDF , or does it only support the device accessing company-specified websites to 'buy ' books ? Bottom line - Mandatory contract bad .
Mandatory proprietary software bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The review mentions AT&amp;T 3G, but I couldn't find any mention of whether a new AT&amp;T contract is required to buy the device at the stated price.
If it is, then fsck that.
If it isn't, then 'meh'.
Its still pretty expensive.
Wait for v 2.0.Also, if one plugs its USB in, does it appear as 'USB storage', that one can copy PDF's to and be able to read them?
Or is one required to use its proprietary software on a proprietary platform to load only special files with DRM?And how about on wifi?
Can one use any sort of standard protocol (ssh, ftp, smb) to copy PDF's in (or out) and/or can it navigate to an arbitrary URL and download a PDF, or does it only support the device accessing company-specified websites to 'buy' books?Bottom line - Mandatory contract bad.
Mandatory proprietary software bad.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30355440</id>
	<title>Re:Don't Need a Kindle Killer, Exactly</title>
	<author>chris44larsen</author>
	<datestamp>1260211980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>what does nook have that amazon kindle needs to innovate?</htmltext>
<tokenext>what does nook have that amazon kindle needs to innovate ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what does nook have that amazon kindle needs to innovate?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30356120</id>
	<title>Re:What does a book offer that a reader doesn't?</title>
	<author>vcgodinich</author>
	<datestamp>1260215400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Turn the physical wireless switch off. Done. <p>No one buys an ebook reader for permanence. You buy one for convenience, and they are very very convenient. </p><p>If anything, the ebook reader will allow you greater unrestricted access to controversial or government banned books. The internet still works, and if Amazon shut down tomorrow, my kindle would still work just fine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Turn the physical wireless switch off .
Done. No one buys an ebook reader for permanence .
You buy one for convenience , and they are very very convenient .
If anything , the ebook reader will allow you greater unrestricted access to controversial or government banned books .
The internet still works , and if Amazon shut down tomorrow , my kindle would still work just fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Turn the physical wireless switch off.
Done. No one buys an ebook reader for permanence.
You buy one for convenience, and they are very very convenient.
If anything, the ebook reader will allow you greater unrestricted access to controversial or government banned books.
The internet still works, and if Amazon shut down tomorrow, my kindle would still work just fine.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_07_0618232.30352756</id>
	<title>Learn Your History</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260200220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How long did it take before Apple had to allow non-AAC audio files to play on the first-gen iPods? They only did that because other companies started making players that would play the widely available mp3 files.</p></div><p>Please take the time to actually learn what the hell you're talking about</p><p>The iPod came out years before the iTunes Store existed, and played MP3 files as its primary purpose.  No one cared about AAC yet (it existed, but it was only the iTunes Store that popularized it).</p><p>So...iPods have <i>always</i> been able to play non-AAC audio files.  iPods have <i>never</i> been purely repositories for music from the iTunes Store.</p><p>Where in the world did you get such a ridiculous idea, anyway?</p><p>Dan Aris</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How long did it take before Apple had to allow non-AAC audio files to play on the first-gen iPods ?
They only did that because other companies started making players that would play the widely available mp3 files.Please take the time to actually learn what the hell you 're talking aboutThe iPod came out years before the iTunes Store existed , and played MP3 files as its primary purpose .
No one cared about AAC yet ( it existed , but it was only the iTunes Store that popularized it ) .So...iPods have always been able to play non-AAC audio files .
iPods have never been purely repositories for music from the iTunes Store.Where in the world did you get such a ridiculous idea , anyway ? Dan Aris</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How long did it take before Apple had to allow non-AAC audio files to play on the first-gen iPods?
They only did that because other companies started making players that would play the widely available mp3 files.Please take the time to actually learn what the hell you're talking aboutThe iPod came out years before the iTunes Store existed, and played MP3 files as its primary purpose.
No one cared about AAC yet (it existed, but it was only the iTunes Store that popularized it).So...iPods have always been able to play non-AAC audio files.
iPods have never been purely repositories for music from the iTunes Store.Where in the world did you get such a ridiculous idea, anyway?Dan Aris
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