<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_03_211250</id>
	<title>What Do You Do When Printers Cost Less Than Ink?</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1259832060000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"A family member recently asked me to pick up more ink for her Epson Photo RX 595.  Unfortunately, replacing the black and color ink cartridges costs $81.92 + tax at the local store! That's so bad that I got a replacement printer that's just as good, and spare ink, for less. But now I have a useless piece of e-waste that I can't even give away. What can you do with a printer like that? I hate to just throw it away."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " A family member recently asked me to pick up more ink for her Epson Photo RX 595 .
Unfortunately , replacing the black and color ink cartridges costs $ 81.92 + tax at the local store !
That 's so bad that I got a replacement printer that 's just as good , and spare ink , for less .
But now I have a useless piece of e-waste that I ca n't even give away .
What can you do with a printer like that ?
I hate to just throw it away .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "A family member recently asked me to pick up more ink for her Epson Photo RX 595.
Unfortunately, replacing the black and color ink cartridges costs $81.92 + tax at the local store!
That's so bad that I got a replacement printer that's just as good, and spare ink, for less.
But now I have a useless piece of e-waste that I can't even give away.
What can you do with a printer like that?
I hate to just throw it away.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316478</id>
	<title>This is 2009.....</title>
	<author>Qwrk</author>
	<datestamp>1259835960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hate to say this..... but we've been doing this for quite some time now at the MoJ.  HP has been doing this for years.
<br>
We just toss them out.  Don't need to replace them cartridges no more; just hook up a new printer.  And you're done...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hate to say this..... but we 've been doing this for quite some time now at the MoJ .
HP has been doing this for years .
We just toss them out .
Do n't need to replace them cartridges no more ; just hook up a new printer .
And you 're done.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hate to say this..... but we've been doing this for quite some time now at the MoJ.
HP has been doing this for years.
We just toss them out.
Don't need to replace them cartridges no more; just hook up a new printer.
And you're done...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316820</id>
	<title>Support Kodak's printers send the others a message</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kodak has had their printer line on the market for over a year now, they place the print head on the printer itself and forgo all the smart chip garbage causes some rather anti-consumer issues on other brands of printers.  Their cartridges are really cheap compared to others, under $25 for a full set of color and black ink.  The print quality is great, and the prices while not as cheap as the lower end HP's and Epson's are reasonable, I paid $120 for my all in one last year and have changed cartridges once and it hasn't skipped a beat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kodak has had their printer line on the market for over a year now , they place the print head on the printer itself and forgo all the smart chip garbage causes some rather anti-consumer issues on other brands of printers .
Their cartridges are really cheap compared to others , under $ 25 for a full set of color and black ink .
The print quality is great , and the prices while not as cheap as the lower end HP 's and Epson 's are reasonable , I paid $ 120 for my all in one last year and have changed cartridges once and it has n't skipped a beat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kodak has had their printer line on the market for over a year now, they place the print head on the printer itself and forgo all the smart chip garbage causes some rather anti-consumer issues on other brands of printers.
Their cartridges are really cheap compared to others, under $25 for a full set of color and black ink.
The print quality is great, and the prices while not as cheap as the lower end HP's and Epson's are reasonable, I paid $120 for my all in one last year and have changed cartridges once and it hasn't skipped a beat.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316752</id>
	<title>Laser printers are starting too.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought an HP CP1215 on sale for around $100 a year ago.<br>Came with 'introductory' toner cartidges.</p><p>Price of the black refill:  $109</p><p>Fortunately, I can refill them.<br>I bought a toner refill kit, and the first thing it said is to set the printer driver 'override' in the HP toolbox, and just keep on printing.<br>So far, I am 250 pages past the 'out of toner' that the popup keeps warning me about, and no signs of fading.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought an HP CP1215 on sale for around $ 100 a year ago.Came with 'introductory ' toner cartidges.Price of the black refill : $ 109Fortunately , I can refill them.I bought a toner refill kit , and the first thing it said is to set the printer driver 'override ' in the HP toolbox , and just keep on printing.So far , I am 250 pages past the 'out of toner ' that the popup keeps warning me about , and no signs of fading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought an HP CP1215 on sale for around $100 a year ago.Came with 'introductory' toner cartidges.Price of the black refill:  $109Fortunately, I can refill them.I bought a toner refill kit, and the first thing it said is to set the printer driver 'override' in the HP toolbox, and just keep on printing.So far, I am 250 pages past the 'out of toner' that the popup keeps warning me about, and no signs of fading.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317944</id>
	<title>Half Capacity?  Look for another Printer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259840820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know where you all are getting your printers, but the last three printers in a row that I bought all included transparent tanks, and you could clearly see that they were full capacity.  They weren't expensive, either.  (All 3 Canons, if you must know).  If you're not getting a full set of inks, look for another printer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know where you all are getting your printers , but the last three printers in a row that I bought all included transparent tanks , and you could clearly see that they were full capacity .
They were n't expensive , either .
( All 3 Canons , if you must know ) .
If you 're not getting a full set of inks , look for another printer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know where you all are getting your printers, but the last three printers in a row that I bought all included transparent tanks, and you could clearly see that they were full capacity.
They weren't expensive, either.
(All 3 Canons, if you must know).
If you're not getting a full set of inks, look for another printer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316642</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>DoofusOfDeath</author>
	<datestamp>1259836320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Personally, while I understand the business doctrine of "whatever the market will bear," I think it's time that Congress look into market collusion and racketeering. There's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.</p></div></blockquote><p>I believe that competition for ink products can't arise due to monopolies that Congress <i>intentionally</i> created via patents and the DMCA.</p><p>I think that the best one can hope for is that Congress didn't anticipate this.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally , while I understand the business doctrine of " whatever the market will bear , " I think it 's time that Congress look into market collusion and racketeering .
There 's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.I believe that competition for ink products ca n't arise due to monopolies that Congress intentionally created via patents and the DMCA.I think that the best one can hope for is that Congress did n't anticipate this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally, while I understand the business doctrine of "whatever the market will bear," I think it's time that Congress look into market collusion and racketeering.
There's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.I believe that competition for ink products can't arise due to monopolies that Congress intentionally created via patents and the DMCA.I think that the best one can hope for is that Congress didn't anticipate this.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316894</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>captaindomon</author>
	<datestamp>1259837100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Prices aren't based on cost. No prices from major corporations are based on cost. They're based on Willingness to Pay: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willingness\_to\_pay" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willingness\_to\_pay</a> [wikipedia.org] . This is a very basic economics/business concept.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Prices are n't based on cost .
No prices from major corporations are based on cost .
They 're based on Willingness to Pay : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willingness \ _to \ _pay [ wikipedia.org ] .
This is a very basic economics/business concept .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Prices aren't based on cost.
No prices from major corporations are based on cost.
They're based on Willingness to Pay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willingness\_to\_pay [wikipedia.org] .
This is a very basic economics/business concept.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318104</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259841660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Gillette principal in action, "Give them the raser and make them pay for the blades!" the money is made in the the blades.<br>Mind you looking at wikipedia they are under investigation just now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillette\_(brand).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Gillette principal in action , " Give them the raser and make them pay for the blades !
" the money is made in the the blades.Mind you looking at wikipedia they are under investigation just now http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillette \ _ ( brand ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Gillette principal in action, "Give them the raser and make them pay for the blades!
" the money is made in the the blades.Mind you looking at wikipedia they are under investigation just now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillette\_(brand).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317862</id>
	<title>Warranty it for underfilled cartridges</title>
	<author>swordgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1259840520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, call the warranty claims department and explain that the printer came with defective (i.e. less than full) ink cartridges, and since the ink is the most expensive part of the printer, it was a significant defect. They'll tell you "starter cartridges, bla bla bla..." but be firm, and escalate as high as you can. File a formal complaint with the government's consumer affairs department.</p><p>It would be far more honest for them to sell that $50 printer for $50 with \_no\_ ink in it at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , call the warranty claims department and explain that the printer came with defective ( i.e .
less than full ) ink cartridges , and since the ink is the most expensive part of the printer , it was a significant defect .
They 'll tell you " starter cartridges , bla bla bla... " but be firm , and escalate as high as you can .
File a formal complaint with the government 's consumer affairs department.It would be far more honest for them to sell that $ 50 printer for $ 50 with \ _no \ _ ink in it at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, call the warranty claims department and explain that the printer came with defective (i.e.
less than full) ink cartridges, and since the ink is the most expensive part of the printer, it was a significant defect.
They'll tell you "starter cartridges, bla bla bla..." but be firm, and escalate as high as you can.
File a formal complaint with the government's consumer affairs department.It would be far more honest for them to sell that $50 printer for $50 with \_no\_ ink in it at all.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319670</id>
	<title>Re:Simple!</title>
	<author>Nethead</author>
	<datestamp>1259850660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's exactly how our computer shop would "repair" Commodore 64s with power supply problems back in the '80s.  And we were an auth'd reseller.  But when Toys-r-us started selling them... well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's exactly how our computer shop would " repair " Commodore 64s with power supply problems back in the '80s .
And we were an auth 'd reseller .
But when Toys-r-us started selling them... well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's exactly how our computer shop would "repair" Commodore 64s with power supply problems back in the '80s.
And we were an auth'd reseller.
But when Toys-r-us started selling them... well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316472</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30330972</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259931480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In capitalist systems, competition is supposed to drive prices to just above cost, plus a small premium for the risk the capitalist takes.  This is the whole point of capitalism.</p><p>In any market where price isn't driven by cost, but instead rises to the maximum willingness to pay, that's a sure sign you have a non-competitive, non-capitalist market.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In capitalist systems , competition is supposed to drive prices to just above cost , plus a small premium for the risk the capitalist takes .
This is the whole point of capitalism.In any market where price is n't driven by cost , but instead rises to the maximum willingness to pay , that 's a sure sign you have a non-competitive , non-capitalist market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In capitalist systems, competition is supposed to drive prices to just above cost, plus a small premium for the risk the capitalist takes.
This is the whole point of capitalism.In any market where price isn't driven by cost, but instead rises to the maximum willingness to pay, that's a sure sign you have a non-competitive, non-capitalist market.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316894</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316590</id>
	<title>Epson sucks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have one of their photo printers and it is just as nasty about the ink.  Worse the carts use some damn chip which prevents refilling.  My advice is to just keep trying to get rid of it on craigslist.  Eventually some clueless person will buy it and then it is their problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have one of their photo printers and it is just as nasty about the ink .
Worse the carts use some damn chip which prevents refilling .
My advice is to just keep trying to get rid of it on craigslist .
Eventually some clueless person will buy it and then it is their problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have one of their photo printers and it is just as nasty about the ink.
Worse the carts use some damn chip which prevents refilling.
My advice is to just keep trying to get rid of it on craigslist.
Eventually some clueless person will buy it and then it is their problem.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317706</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259839800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually there is a certain colour of red that is made by crushing the exoskeleton of a bug only found in the desert. So yes there is a way pigment can cost thousands of dollars.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually there is a certain colour of red that is made by crushing the exoskeleton of a bug only found in the desert .
So yes there is a way pigment can cost thousands of dollars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually there is a certain colour of red that is made by crushing the exoskeleton of a bug only found in the desert.
So yes there is a way pigment can cost thousands of dollars.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316676</id>
	<title>Pfft, easy</title>
	<author>tsstahl</author>
	<datestamp>1259836440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Put it back in the box and return it, of course!  No, I'm not trolling; I'm advocating consumer protest.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Put it back in the box and return it , of course !
No , I 'm not trolling ; I 'm advocating consumer protest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Put it back in the box and return it, of course!
No, I'm not trolling; I'm advocating consumer protest.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322754</id>
	<title>Re:Prevent.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259935380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm calling mine "The Squid"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm calling mine " The Squid "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm calling mine "The Squid"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316508</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320694</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>Buelldozer</author>
	<datestamp>1259859420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Low velocity handgun cartridges, like<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.38, with hollow points will provide the satisfaction that you're looking for.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22 JHP works brilliantly as well.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Low velocity handgun cartridges , like .38 , with hollow points will provide the satisfaction that you 're looking for .
.22 JHP works brilliantly as well .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Low velocity handgun cartridges, like .38, with hollow points will provide the satisfaction that you're looking for.
.22 JHP works brilliantly as well.
:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30338204</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260007140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Purchased an HP 5MP (Postscript and PCL)13 years ago and it is still going strong. Though it wasn't cheap at the times, it is connected to the house network and serves all connected devices. Five people in the house keep this device quite busy and it has been more than up to the task. Mac/PC/Linux they all use it to print. Maybe a cart a year (HP C3903A ~$83/cart) goes into the device and I expect it to continue for some time to come.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Purchased an HP 5MP ( Postscript and PCL ) 13 years ago and it is still going strong .
Though it was n't cheap at the times , it is connected to the house network and serves all connected devices .
Five people in the house keep this device quite busy and it has been more than up to the task .
Mac/PC/Linux they all use it to print .
Maybe a cart a year ( HP C3903A ~ $ 83/cart ) goes into the device and I expect it to continue for some time to come .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Purchased an HP 5MP (Postscript and PCL)13 years ago and it is still going strong.
Though it wasn't cheap at the times, it is connected to the house network and serves all connected devices.
Five people in the house keep this device quite busy and it has been more than up to the task.
Mac/PC/Linux they all use it to print.
Maybe a cart a year (HP C3903A ~$83/cart) goes into the device and I expect it to continue for some time to come.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320584</id>
	<title>Re:If I ran my country</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259858460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumping\_\%28pricing\_policy\%29</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumping \ _ \ % 28pricing \ _policy \ % 29</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumping\_\%28pricing\_policy\%29</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316526</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316942</id>
	<title>Recycle</title>
	<author>grantham</author>
	<datestamp>1259837280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you can't find anyone who wants a perfectly cromulent printer, find a way to recycle it. I used to use <a href="http://greendisk.com/" title="greendisk.com" rel="nofollow">Greendisk</a> [greendisk.com], but now my town holds semi-annual electronics recycling.  If your locality doesn't, bug them about it...it's much more practical to recycle in bulk, and you'd be doing a really good deed if you could get it implemented.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you ca n't find anyone who wants a perfectly cromulent printer , find a way to recycle it .
I used to use Greendisk [ greendisk.com ] , but now my town holds semi-annual electronics recycling .
If your locality does n't , bug them about it...it 's much more practical to recycle in bulk , and you 'd be doing a really good deed if you could get it implemented .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you can't find anyone who wants a perfectly cromulent printer, find a way to recycle it.
I used to use Greendisk [greendisk.com], but now my town holds semi-annual electronics recycling.
If your locality doesn't, bug them about it...it's much more practical to recycle in bulk, and you'd be doing a really good deed if you could get it implemented.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316494</id>
	<title>Donate and claim a tax deduction!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259835960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can donate at Goodwill or Salvation army and claim a tax deduction.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can donate at Goodwill or Salvation army and claim a tax deduction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can donate at Goodwill or Salvation army and claim a tax deduction.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318862</id>
	<title>Re:repurpose, refill</title>
	<author>Henry Pate</author>
	<datestamp>1259845380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You could just go buy an ink refill kit and refill existing cartridges</p></div><p>
Unless you have something like an Lexmark Z1300 which contains a chip on the ink cartidge that tracks the ink level, you can refill it all you want but it won't recognize the ink unless you figure out some way to reset the chip.
</p><p>
I got the printer for around $25 bucks so I certainly got what I paid for, I think I'll be going with a Canon next time.
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You could just go buy an ink refill kit and refill existing cartridges Unless you have something like an Lexmark Z1300 which contains a chip on the ink cartidge that tracks the ink level , you can refill it all you want but it wo n't recognize the ink unless you figure out some way to reset the chip .
I got the printer for around $ 25 bucks so I certainly got what I paid for , I think I 'll be going with a Canon next time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could just go buy an ink refill kit and refill existing cartridges
Unless you have something like an Lexmark Z1300 which contains a chip on the ink cartidge that tracks the ink level, you can refill it all you want but it won't recognize the ink unless you figure out some way to reset the chip.
I got the printer for around $25 bucks so I certainly got what I paid for, I think I'll be going with a Canon next time.

	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316448</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316812</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space re-enactment</title>
	<author>TheGratefulNet</author>
	<datestamp>1259836860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>PC LOA</p><p>...oh the hell with it.  KABOOM!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>PC LOA...oh the hell with it .
KABOOM !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PC LOA...oh the hell with it.
KABOOM!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316458</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321672</id>
	<title>For a tech site, slashdot is full of fail.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259959260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bite the bullet and get a new machine. All of the advice to go laser is outdated by most of the modern inkjet printers. Always remember to check ink prices were you will be buying them in the future.</p><p>Many of the low-end laser machines now are MORE expensive per page than inkjet printers, and have WORSE output to boot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bite the bullet and get a new machine .
All of the advice to go laser is outdated by most of the modern inkjet printers .
Always remember to check ink prices were you will be buying them in the future.Many of the low-end laser machines now are MORE expensive per page than inkjet printers , and have WORSE output to boot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bite the bullet and get a new machine.
All of the advice to go laser is outdated by most of the modern inkjet printers.
Always remember to check ink prices were you will be buying them in the future.Many of the low-end laser machines now are MORE expensive per page than inkjet printers, and have WORSE output to boot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317936</id>
	<title>Re:Red Ink</title>
	<author>tsm\_sf</author>
	<datestamp>1259840760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Carly Fiorina was the gift that just keeps on giving, wasn't she.</p><p>Proof positive that it only takes one person to destroy decades of other people's work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Carly Fiorina was the gift that just keeps on giving , was n't she.Proof positive that it only takes one person to destroy decades of other people 's work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Carly Fiorina was the gift that just keeps on giving, wasn't she.Proof positive that it only takes one person to destroy decades of other people's work.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316662</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317712</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259839800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It doesn't, but the cost to the company is not just the cost of the pigments, it is also the loss leader price for just about every printer they sell; especially true with the consumer grade laser and photo printers. The market has demonstrated, whether through ignorance or otherwise, that they prefer the razor and blades model to paying what the individual items actually cost.</p></div></blockquote><p>Except in this case, it's actually <i>worse</i> than the razor/blade model because they come with the equivalent of an already dull blade (mostly empty 'starter' ink cartridges).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't , but the cost to the company is not just the cost of the pigments , it is also the loss leader price for just about every printer they sell ; especially true with the consumer grade laser and photo printers .
The market has demonstrated , whether through ignorance or otherwise , that they prefer the razor and blades model to paying what the individual items actually cost.Except in this case , it 's actually worse than the razor/blade model because they come with the equivalent of an already dull blade ( mostly empty 'starter ' ink cartridges ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't, but the cost to the company is not just the cost of the pigments, it is also the loss leader price for just about every printer they sell; especially true with the consumer grade laser and photo printers.
The market has demonstrated, whether through ignorance or otherwise, that they prefer the razor and blades model to paying what the individual items actually cost.Except in this case, it's actually worse than the razor/blade model because they come with the equivalent of an already dull blade (mostly empty 'starter' ink cartridges).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316634</id>
	<title>Sales Pitches FTL.....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's interesting how many people here have succumbed to the tireless sales pitches of the electronic store salesman trying to get you to purchase more ink.  The mythological "demo cartridge" or "starter cartridge" is pure sales pitch.  IT DOES NOT EXIST.  I worked at a certain Electronics chain with a large Yellow tag and we were told to tell our customers this in order to sell more ink.</p><p>Unless the cartridge is listed as a demo piece or the contents show less liquid oz/ml on the cartridge than a standard cartridge it is the same thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's interesting how many people here have succumbed to the tireless sales pitches of the electronic store salesman trying to get you to purchase more ink .
The mythological " demo cartridge " or " starter cartridge " is pure sales pitch .
IT DOES NOT EXIST .
I worked at a certain Electronics chain with a large Yellow tag and we were told to tell our customers this in order to sell more ink.Unless the cartridge is listed as a demo piece or the contents show less liquid oz/ml on the cartridge than a standard cartridge it is the same thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's interesting how many people here have succumbed to the tireless sales pitches of the electronic store salesman trying to get you to purchase more ink.
The mythological "demo cartridge" or "starter cartridge" is pure sales pitch.
IT DOES NOT EXIST.
I worked at a certain Electronics chain with a large Yellow tag and we were told to tell our customers this in order to sell more ink.Unless the cartridge is listed as a demo piece or the contents show less liquid oz/ml on the cartridge than a standard cartridge it is the same thing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322422</id>
	<title>Re:repurpose, refill</title>
	<author>zwarte piet</author>
	<datestamp>1259929560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Except that modern day cartridges have chips in them that tell the printer it's empty even if you just filled it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Except that modern day cartridges have chips in them that tell the printer it 's empty even if you just filled it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except that modern day cartridges have chips in them that tell the printer it's empty even if you just filled it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316448</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321734</id>
	<title>Robot parts</title>
	<author>jeroen94704</author>
	<datestamp>1259960280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Printers and scanners are excellent sources of scavenged parts for robot projects. They contain motors, stepper-motors, pulleys, belts, gears and all sorts of other useful bits.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Printers and scanners are excellent sources of scavenged parts for robot projects .
They contain motors , stepper-motors , pulleys , belts , gears and all sorts of other useful bits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Printers and scanners are excellent sources of scavenged parts for robot projects.
They contain motors, stepper-motors, pulleys, belts, gears and all sorts of other useful bits.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320346</id>
	<title>Re:Get yourself a color laser</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259856420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In any case, if you want to stick with InkJets, buy cheap remanufactured ink or remanufacture it yourself. In my experience, it is not any worse than the original if you do the job right, and it costs an order of magnitude less.<br>For B&amp;W printing you might see a slight difference, keep an original cartrige for those times when you need something formal.<br>Don't pay the "ink tax".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In any case , if you want to stick with InkJets , buy cheap remanufactured ink or remanufacture it yourself .
In my experience , it is not any worse than the original if you do the job right , and it costs an order of magnitude less.For B&amp;W printing you might see a slight difference , keep an original cartrige for those times when you need something formal.Do n't pay the " ink tax " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In any case, if you want to stick with InkJets, buy cheap remanufactured ink or remanufacture it yourself.
In my experience, it is not any worse than the original if you do the job right, and it costs an order of magnitude less.For B&amp;W printing you might see a slight difference, keep an original cartrige for those times when you need something formal.Don't pay the "ink tax".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318048</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316452</id>
	<title>just toss it!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259835840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I hate to just throw it away.</p></div><p>I learned this lesson awhile ago with inkjet printers - throw it away, get over it. Inkjets are disposable.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate to just throw it away.I learned this lesson awhile ago with inkjet printers - throw it away , get over it .
Inkjets are disposable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate to just throw it away.I learned this lesson awhile ago with inkjet printers - throw it away, get over it.
Inkjets are disposable.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317558</id>
	<title>Re:Just yesterday</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259839260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, a self-aware idiot is perhaps one step in the right direction.</p><p>But you're still an idiot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , a self-aware idiot is perhaps one step in the right direction.But you 're still an idiot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, a self-aware idiot is perhaps one step in the right direction.But you're still an idiot.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316646</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321048</id>
	<title>Re:Cheap Printer?</title>
	<author>Meski</author>
	<datestamp>1259863620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And don't fall for the cashback offers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And do n't fall for the cashback offers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And don't fall for the cashback offers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316416</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318506</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1259843460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>So if you're a very low volume printer, then lasers are probably not worth the investments. </i><br>The trouble with inkjets is if you are a very low volume user or you need to store printers for a while (e.g. your circumstances change) you tend to lose cartridges (and often printheads too) not to them running out but them to them getting clogged up. This is particularlly bad with epsons since afaict epson printheads are not econonmically replacable. I don't think i've ever had this issue with a laser.</p><p>If you don't need color I would definately reccomend a mono laser. I can't comment on color lasers as last time I looked the prices were still too high at least if you wanted niceties like networking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So if you 're a very low volume printer , then lasers are probably not worth the investments .
The trouble with inkjets is if you are a very low volume user or you need to store printers for a while ( e.g .
your circumstances change ) you tend to lose cartridges ( and often printheads too ) not to them running out but them to them getting clogged up .
This is particularlly bad with epsons since afaict epson printheads are not econonmically replacable .
I do n't think i 've ever had this issue with a laser.If you do n't need color I would definately reccomend a mono laser .
I ca n't comment on color lasers as last time I looked the prices were still too high at least if you wanted niceties like networking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So if you're a very low volume printer, then lasers are probably not worth the investments.
The trouble with inkjets is if you are a very low volume user or you need to store printers for a while (e.g.
your circumstances change) you tend to lose cartridges (and often printheads too) not to them running out but them to them getting clogged up.
This is particularlly bad with epsons since afaict epson printheads are not econonmically replacable.
I don't think i've ever had this issue with a laser.If you don't need color I would definately reccomend a mono laser.
I can't comment on color lasers as last time I looked the prices were still too high at least if you wanted niceties like networking.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317370</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316526</id>
	<title>If I ran my country</title>
	<author>Nerdfest</author>
	<datestamp>1259836020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>If I ran my country (and I really think I should) it would be illegal to sell a device at a loss in order to gouge  on the consumables. In addition, they would be required to accept the return of any hardware they sell for environmentally acceptable disposal, meaning it would need to built into the price. I think some countries may already do this on some products.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I ran my country ( and I really think I should ) it would be illegal to sell a device at a loss in order to gouge on the consumables .
In addition , they would be required to accept the return of any hardware they sell for environmentally acceptable disposal , meaning it would need to built into the price .
I think some countries may already do this on some products .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I ran my country (and I really think I should) it would be illegal to sell a device at a loss in order to gouge  on the consumables.
In addition, they would be required to accept the return of any hardware they sell for environmentally acceptable disposal, meaning it would need to built into the price.
I think some countries may already do this on some products.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318556</id>
	<title>Ink packs</title>
	<author>AkumaKuruma</author>
	<datestamp>1259843820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>the one thing i have found interesting are the ink packs. I personally have an HP printer that uses 02 ink packs. the funny thing about these is the price disparity on the inks. single colors are 11 bucks with black being 20 bucks. or i can get the 5 cartridge (cyan, light cyan, magenta, light magenta, and yellow) for close to $50, but what i usually get is the 6 cartridge pack (same as 5 cartridge, but it adds a black and 150-sheets of 4x6 photo paper) for 35 bucks.

I have asked several stores why the 5 cartridge costs more than the 6 cartridge and I have yet to get an answer other than "yeah, that doesnt make sense either"</htmltext>
<tokenext>the one thing i have found interesting are the ink packs .
I personally have an HP printer that uses 02 ink packs .
the funny thing about these is the price disparity on the inks .
single colors are 11 bucks with black being 20 bucks .
or i can get the 5 cartridge ( cyan , light cyan , magenta , light magenta , and yellow ) for close to $ 50 , but what i usually get is the 6 cartridge pack ( same as 5 cartridge , but it adds a black and 150-sheets of 4x6 photo paper ) for 35 bucks .
I have asked several stores why the 5 cartridge costs more than the 6 cartridge and I have yet to get an answer other than " yeah , that doesnt make sense either "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the one thing i have found interesting are the ink packs.
I personally have an HP printer that uses 02 ink packs.
the funny thing about these is the price disparity on the inks.
single colors are 11 bucks with black being 20 bucks.
or i can get the 5 cartridge (cyan, light cyan, magenta, light magenta, and yellow) for close to $50, but what i usually get is the 6 cartridge pack (same as 5 cartridge, but it adds a black and 150-sheets of 4x6 photo paper) for 35 bucks.
I have asked several stores why the 5 cartridge costs more than the 6 cartridge and I have yet to get an answer other than "yeah, that doesnt make sense either"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316420</id>
	<title>Prevent.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259835780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The best course of action for this sort of thing is prevention. Keep consumables prices in mind when buying hardware in the first place, get a decent laser printer if you can, and give 3rd party consumables a try.<br> <br>

If you do end up stuck with a printer, or printers, you might want to see if you are, or if you know, any electronics/robotics hobbyists. Even cheap and ghastly printers contain a reasonable supply of motors(some conventional DC, some steppers) and gears and optointerrupters and other fun little gizmos. The larger and more sophisticated printers can contain pretty impressive quantities of such.<br> <br>

Failing that, you probably just want to find a recycler.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The best course of action for this sort of thing is prevention .
Keep consumables prices in mind when buying hardware in the first place , get a decent laser printer if you can , and give 3rd party consumables a try .
If you do end up stuck with a printer , or printers , you might want to see if you are , or if you know , any electronics/robotics hobbyists .
Even cheap and ghastly printers contain a reasonable supply of motors ( some conventional DC , some steppers ) and gears and optointerrupters and other fun little gizmos .
The larger and more sophisticated printers can contain pretty impressive quantities of such .
Failing that , you probably just want to find a recycler .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The best course of action for this sort of thing is prevention.
Keep consumables prices in mind when buying hardware in the first place, get a decent laser printer if you can, and give 3rd party consumables a try.
If you do end up stuck with a printer, or printers, you might want to see if you are, or if you know, any electronics/robotics hobbyists.
Even cheap and ghastly printers contain a reasonable supply of motors(some conventional DC, some steppers) and gears and optointerrupters and other fun little gizmos.
The larger and more sophisticated printers can contain pretty impressive quantities of such.
Failing that, you probably just want to find a recycler.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320686</id>
	<title>Re:Support Kodak's printers send the others a mess</title>
	<author>Buelldozer</author>
	<datestamp>1259859300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Second. For office environments I'm a total "laser printer ONLY" Nazi but last Christmas I bought a Kodak ESP-7+ and I couldn't be happier with it. The ink is cheap, cartridges last a reasonably long time, and so far this thing hasn't had any problems. Even the wireless printing and scanning works!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Second .
For office environments I 'm a total " laser printer ONLY " Nazi but last Christmas I bought a Kodak ESP-7 + and I could n't be happier with it .
The ink is cheap , cartridges last a reasonably long time , and so far this thing has n't had any problems .
Even the wireless printing and scanning works !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Second.
For office environments I'm a total "laser printer ONLY" Nazi but last Christmas I bought a Kodak ESP-7+ and I couldn't be happier with it.
The ink is cheap, cartridges last a reasonably long time, and so far this thing hasn't had any problems.
Even the wireless printing and scanning works!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316820</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320064</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>nytes</author>
	<datestamp>1259853720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In my youth, I discovered that an acetylene torch and a couple of balloons could provide about as big a boom as you'd probably need.  I'd fill a balloon with 1/2 acetylene and 1/2 O2, then put some kind of fuse on the balloon, light it, and run.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In my youth , I discovered that an acetylene torch and a couple of balloons could provide about as big a boom as you 'd probably need .
I 'd fill a balloon with 1/2 acetylene and 1/2 O2 , then put some kind of fuse on the balloon , light it , and run .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In my youth, I discovered that an acetylene torch and a couple of balloons could provide about as big a boom as you'd probably need.
I'd fill a balloon with 1/2 acetylene and 1/2 O2, then put some kind of fuse on the balloon, light it, and run.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317516</id>
	<title>Get a laser printer</title>
	<author>lc\_overlord</author>
	<datestamp>1259839140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, lasers rule.<br>I bought a cheap laser printer for less than $200, it's nice, networked, fast, excellent B&amp;W quality, good for 2000-4000 copies and will probably never dry up.<br>It also prints decent photos, but if you really need that high quality glossy stuff then have someone professional print it out for you.<br>They have the proper hardware, paper, cheap ink and knowledge to use it, and you basically don't have to pay anything but paper, ink, markup and taxes.<br>So if you're not printing huge amounts of photos then in the end it's not that much more expensive to order them on-line.</p><p>And the printer, send it back to the store, they sell the crap now they get to recycle it (just make sure it doesn't work first so they can't resell it).<br>If they won't accept it then just start quoting fake paragraphs to them and make a big loud fuzz about it, usually they will just give in to make you shut up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , lasers rule.I bought a cheap laser printer for less than $ 200 , it 's nice , networked , fast , excellent B&amp;W quality , good for 2000-4000 copies and will probably never dry up.It also prints decent photos , but if you really need that high quality glossy stuff then have someone professional print it out for you.They have the proper hardware , paper , cheap ink and knowledge to use it , and you basically do n't have to pay anything but paper , ink , markup and taxes.So if you 're not printing huge amounts of photos then in the end it 's not that much more expensive to order them on-line.And the printer , send it back to the store , they sell the crap now they get to recycle it ( just make sure it does n't work first so they ca n't resell it ) .If they wo n't accept it then just start quoting fake paragraphs to them and make a big loud fuzz about it , usually they will just give in to make you shut up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, lasers rule.I bought a cheap laser printer for less than $200, it's nice, networked, fast, excellent B&amp;W quality, good for 2000-4000 copies and will probably never dry up.It also prints decent photos, but if you really need that high quality glossy stuff then have someone professional print it out for you.They have the proper hardware, paper, cheap ink and knowledge to use it, and you basically don't have to pay anything but paper, ink, markup and taxes.So if you're not printing huge amounts of photos then in the end it's not that much more expensive to order them on-line.And the printer, send it back to the store, they sell the crap now they get to recycle it (just make sure it doesn't work first so they can't resell it).If they won't accept it then just start quoting fake paragraphs to them and make a big loud fuzz about it, usually they will just give in to make you shut up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320974</id>
	<title>Re:Get yourself a color laser</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259862840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, the less you print, the better the inkjet idea is.  Cheap printer for someone who hardly prints.  Otherwise, a laser is definitely the better purchase.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , the less you print , the better the inkjet idea is .
Cheap printer for someone who hardly prints .
Otherwise , a laser is definitely the better purchase .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, the less you print, the better the inkjet idea is.
Cheap printer for someone who hardly prints.
Otherwise, a laser is definitely the better purchase.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318048</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317626</id>
	<title>Re:The old fashioned way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259839560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hopefully not all at the same time</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hopefully not all at the same time</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hopefully not all at the same time</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317066</id>
	<title>Purchase from eBay</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259837640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not purchase new cartridges off eBay?  I've been doing this for years, you can purchase brand new, sealed FULL cartridges for 4-5 dollars.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not purchase new cartridges off eBay ?
I 've been doing this for years , you can purchase brand new , sealed FULL cartridges for 4-5 dollars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not purchase new cartridges off eBay?
I've been doing this for years, you can purchase brand new, sealed FULL cartridges for 4-5 dollars.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318262</id>
	<title>Government intervention required</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259842260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why won't the Government step in and DO SOMETHING?!?!?! Simply put another tax on printers to create an economic incentive to be GREEN!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why wo n't the Government step in and DO SOMETHING ? ! ? ! ? !
Simply put another tax on printers to create an economic incentive to be GREEN !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why won't the Government step in and DO SOMETHING?!?!?!
Simply put another tax on printers to create an economic incentive to be GREEN!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30324334</id>
	<title>Lightbulb Moment</title>
	<author>eyendall</author>
	<datestamp>1259945280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reading this article, I have just had one of those lightbulb or epiphany moments.</p><p>If inks cost more than a new printer, why should I care about the manufacturers warning that using third-party inks will damage the printer? I'll never buy the branded inks again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reading this article , I have just had one of those lightbulb or epiphany moments.If inks cost more than a new printer , why should I care about the manufacturers warning that using third-party inks will damage the printer ?
I 'll never buy the branded inks again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reading this article, I have just had one of those lightbulb or epiphany moments.If inks cost more than a new printer, why should I care about the manufacturers warning that using third-party inks will damage the printer?
I'll never buy the branded inks again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30325530</id>
	<title>Re:The old fashioned way</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1259950200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you print with red, yellow, blue, and white?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you print with red , yellow , blue , and white ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you print with red, yellow, blue, and white?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317302</id>
	<title>Next time don't buy a printer, be more resourceful</title>
	<author>CrackedButter</author>
	<datestamp>1259838420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I stopped buying printers 2.5 years ago, there isn't any point personally.  I can go to a library or a local office block, newsagents, the cost is getting silly these days with the inks and the price of the printers.  Never going to buy one again.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I stopped buying printers 2.5 years ago , there is n't any point personally .
I can go to a library or a local office block , newsagents , the cost is getting silly these days with the inks and the price of the printers .
Never going to buy one again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I stopped buying printers 2.5 years ago, there isn't any point personally.
I can go to a library or a local office block, newsagents, the cost is getting silly these days with the inks and the price of the printers.
Never going to buy one again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317104</id>
	<title>Re:Support Kodak's printers send the others a mess</title>
	<author>omnichad</author>
	<datestamp>1259837760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll second this!  I bought a Kodak Easyshare 5300 All-in-One on Woot for $35.  It came with a bad printhead, but they gladly replaced it.  Just last week, I replaced it with a Kodak 5250LE (Wal-Mart Black Friday special).  The new one is not as sturdy as the old, but it's working great so far.</p><p>They print the retail price of the cartridges right on the box!  No bait and switch there.  They use pigment-based inks, and as far as I've seen, all their printers are using the same cartridges.  It's practically a revolution in home desktop printing.<br>
&nbsp; <br>Beware, they aren't all that friendly to networking.  The original line of printers had drivers that actually looked for a device on the USB line and refused to print if it wasn't there.  The new 5250 scans and prints wirelessly from my Mac, but as far as I know, there's still no Linux driver available.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll second this !
I bought a Kodak Easyshare 5300 All-in-One on Woot for $ 35 .
It came with a bad printhead , but they gladly replaced it .
Just last week , I replaced it with a Kodak 5250LE ( Wal-Mart Black Friday special ) .
The new one is not as sturdy as the old , but it 's working great so far.They print the retail price of the cartridges right on the box !
No bait and switch there .
They use pigment-based inks , and as far as I 've seen , all their printers are using the same cartridges .
It 's practically a revolution in home desktop printing .
  Beware , they are n't all that friendly to networking .
The original line of printers had drivers that actually looked for a device on the USB line and refused to print if it was n't there .
The new 5250 scans and prints wirelessly from my Mac , but as far as I know , there 's still no Linux driver available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll second this!
I bought a Kodak Easyshare 5300 All-in-One on Woot for $35.
It came with a bad printhead, but they gladly replaced it.
Just last week, I replaced it with a Kodak 5250LE (Wal-Mart Black Friday special).
The new one is not as sturdy as the old, but it's working great so far.They print the retail price of the cartridges right on the box!
No bait and switch there.
They use pigment-based inks, and as far as I've seen, all their printers are using the same cartridges.
It's practically a revolution in home desktop printing.
  Beware, they aren't all that friendly to networking.
The original line of printers had drivers that actually looked for a device on the USB line and refused to print if it wasn't there.
The new 5250 scans and prints wirelessly from my Mac, but as far as I know, there's still no Linux driver available.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316820</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318910</id>
	<title>Re:The old fashioned way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259845680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So all your prints are a watery shade of pink? Niiice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So all your prints are a watery shade of pink ?
Niiice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So all your prints are a watery shade of pink?
Niiice.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318220</id>
	<title>don't buy factory ink</title>
	<author>confused one</author>
	<datestamp>1259842140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IF you're going to use an inkjet then buy refurbished cartridges.  They're like $6-$8<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/ea from any number of reputable online suppliers.  Less if you're willing to buy bulk -- I usually pay around $5 or $6 / ea and get free shipping by planning for the seasonal sales then buy 2-3 complete sets of color cartridges and 4-5 black cartridges at one time.  (I have an Epson Stylus all-in-one printer/copier/scanner)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IF you 're going to use an inkjet then buy refurbished cartridges .
They 're like $ 6- $ 8 /ea from any number of reputable online suppliers .
Less if you 're willing to buy bulk -- I usually pay around $ 5 or $ 6 / ea and get free shipping by planning for the seasonal sales then buy 2-3 complete sets of color cartridges and 4-5 black cartridges at one time .
( I have an Epson Stylus all-in-one printer/copier/scanner )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IF you're going to use an inkjet then buy refurbished cartridges.
They're like $6-$8 /ea from any number of reputable online suppliers.
Less if you're willing to buy bulk -- I usually pay around $5 or $6 / ea and get free shipping by planning for the seasonal sales then buy 2-3 complete sets of color cartridges and 4-5 black cartridges at one time.
(I have an Epson Stylus all-in-one printer/copier/scanner)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318572</id>
	<title>There is even more to it when it comes to printers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259843880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're absolutely right and I might add that as part of my business studies I learnt that the most typical example of product performance degrading price discrimination, is how low-end printers are made slower than they have to be for any mechanical reason. That is, a low-end printer might be exactly the same unit as a more expensive model but slower only because of the firmware. It makes sense for manufacturers since the ideal for any company is to sell their product to each given customer at the highest price that customer is willing to pay. That is price discrimination and whilst home users won't pay much more for a printer that is twice as fast as another, businesses will pay that much extra and thus that is a means to achieve price discrimination. Production costs are obviously identical but that way the manufacturer benefits more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're absolutely right and I might add that as part of my business studies I learnt that the most typical example of product performance degrading price discrimination , is how low-end printers are made slower than they have to be for any mechanical reason .
That is , a low-end printer might be exactly the same unit as a more expensive model but slower only because of the firmware .
It makes sense for manufacturers since the ideal for any company is to sell their product to each given customer at the highest price that customer is willing to pay .
That is price discrimination and whilst home users wo n't pay much more for a printer that is twice as fast as another , businesses will pay that much extra and thus that is a means to achieve price discrimination .
Production costs are obviously identical but that way the manufacturer benefits more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're absolutely right and I might add that as part of my business studies I learnt that the most typical example of product performance degrading price discrimination, is how low-end printers are made slower than they have to be for any mechanical reason.
That is, a low-end printer might be exactly the same unit as a more expensive model but slower only because of the firmware.
It makes sense for manufacturers since the ideal for any company is to sell their product to each given customer at the highest price that customer is willing to pay.
That is price discrimination and whilst home users won't pay much more for a printer that is twice as fast as another, businesses will pay that much extra and thus that is a means to achieve price discrimination.
Production costs are obviously identical but that way the manufacturer benefits more.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316894</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319468</id>
	<title>Just throw it away</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259849100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Use it until it stops working and then throw it away.  It's the way the market is currently set up, for consumer dye ink printers.
</p><p>
If you're an occasional user, the next time you need it your $80 set of cartridges will probably be dried up anyway, or it'll be dried up at the print head, requiring cleaning that consumes a significant portion of the ink remaining in your cartridges.  Or the print head may never come clean, leaving you with the choice of living with a streaky image or replacing the printer.  It's best just to get another.
</p><p>
You know that dye ink printers are a loss leader to get you to buy overpriced ink cartridges.  If you can't afford to switch to (more expensive) pigment ink or toner printers, the only reasonable choice from a financial standpoint is to buy a new printer when yours runs out of ink.  Yeah I know it sucks for landfill, but what does one do?  Fortunately most consumer dye ink printers fit conveniently in a typical garbage can, saving you a visit to the dump.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Use it until it stops working and then throw it away .
It 's the way the market is currently set up , for consumer dye ink printers .
If you 're an occasional user , the next time you need it your $ 80 set of cartridges will probably be dried up anyway , or it 'll be dried up at the print head , requiring cleaning that consumes a significant portion of the ink remaining in your cartridges .
Or the print head may never come clean , leaving you with the choice of living with a streaky image or replacing the printer .
It 's best just to get another .
You know that dye ink printers are a loss leader to get you to buy overpriced ink cartridges .
If you ca n't afford to switch to ( more expensive ) pigment ink or toner printers , the only reasonable choice from a financial standpoint is to buy a new printer when yours runs out of ink .
Yeah I know it sucks for landfill , but what does one do ?
Fortunately most consumer dye ink printers fit conveniently in a typical garbage can , saving you a visit to the dump .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Use it until it stops working and then throw it away.
It's the way the market is currently set up, for consumer dye ink printers.
If you're an occasional user, the next time you need it your $80 set of cartridges will probably be dried up anyway, or it'll be dried up at the print head, requiring cleaning that consumes a significant portion of the ink remaining in your cartridges.
Or the print head may never come clean, leaving you with the choice of living with a streaky image or replacing the printer.
It's best just to get another.
You know that dye ink printers are a loss leader to get you to buy overpriced ink cartridges.
If you can't afford to switch to (more expensive) pigment ink or toner printers, the only reasonable choice from a financial standpoint is to buy a new printer when yours runs out of ink.
Yeah I know it sucks for landfill, but what does one do?
Fortunately most consumer dye ink printers fit conveniently in a typical garbage can, saving you a visit to the dump.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317494</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>JesseL</author>
	<datestamp>1259839020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>In the end the best two plans are to <b>rig it with explosives<b> or do the good old Office Space scene by taking a baseball bat to the office copier in a field.</b></b></p></div><p> <a href="http://www.tannerite.com/" title="tannerite.com">Tannerite</a> [tannerite.com] is the way to go. There is nothing more satisfying.</p><p>Myself and a couple friends spent an afternoon playing with Tannerite a couple weeks ago:<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYm-KqzqD2A" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYm-KqzqD2A</a> [youtube.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the end the best two plans are to rig it with explosives or do the good old Office Space scene by taking a baseball bat to the office copier in a field .
Tannerite [ tannerite.com ] is the way to go .
There is nothing more satisfying.Myself and a couple friends spent an afternoon playing with Tannerite a couple weeks ago : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = eYm-KqzqD2A [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the end the best two plans are to rig it with explosives or do the good old Office Space scene by taking a baseball bat to the office copier in a field.
Tannerite [tannerite.com] is the way to go.
There is nothing more satisfying.Myself and a couple friends spent an afternoon playing with Tannerite a couple weeks ago:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYm-KqzqD2A [youtube.com]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316900</id>
	<title>The Solution?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259837100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Buy cheap ink cartridges from China.  I've been using them for years for all kinds of purposes -- everything from disposable map directions on cheap paper to portfolio pieces on very expensive paper, printed by ridiculously expensive printers.  I've used them on multiple models of three different major brands over the years and haven't had any more trouble with them than my friends have with brand name cartridges bought from the printer manufacturer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Buy cheap ink cartridges from China .
I 've been using them for years for all kinds of purposes -- everything from disposable map directions on cheap paper to portfolio pieces on very expensive paper , printed by ridiculously expensive printers .
I 've used them on multiple models of three different major brands over the years and have n't had any more trouble with them than my friends have with brand name cartridges bought from the printer manufacturer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Buy cheap ink cartridges from China.
I've been using them for years for all kinds of purposes -- everything from disposable map directions on cheap paper to portfolio pieces on very expensive paper, printed by ridiculously expensive printers.
I've used them on multiple models of three different major brands over the years and haven't had any more trouble with them than my friends have with brand name cartridges bought from the printer manufacturer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316500</id>
	<title>Demo ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259835960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You should be aware that new printers ship with less than full ink cartridges!</p><p>I got an HP printer an found that the full replacement cartridge had more than twice the ink of the cartridge that it was shipped with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You should be aware that new printers ship with less than full ink cartridges ! I got an HP printer an found that the full replacement cartridge had more than twice the ink of the cartridge that it was shipped with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should be aware that new printers ship with less than full ink cartridges!I got an HP printer an found that the full replacement cartridge had more than twice the ink of the cartridge that it was shipped with it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319580</id>
	<title>I hate it when HP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259849880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hate it when HP sells 'demo' ink cartridges with the printer (5 ml), and the stores carry the 60 ml sizes.  Don't get me wrong, paying $92.50 for 60 ml of fluid should make this champagne worth $1156.75 per bottle, or $2300+ per magnum.  Gasoline at that cost would cost me (Chev Malibu)  $70,145,833.33  (seventy point one million dollars).  It seems like its a bit expensive to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate it when HP sells 'demo ' ink cartridges with the printer ( 5 ml ) , and the stores carry the 60 ml sizes .
Do n't get me wrong , paying $ 92.50 for 60 ml of fluid should make this champagne worth $ 1156.75 per bottle , or $ 2300 + per magnum .
Gasoline at that cost would cost me ( Chev Malibu ) $ 70,145,833.33 ( seventy point one million dollars ) .
It seems like its a bit expensive to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate it when HP sells 'demo' ink cartridges with the printer (5 ml), and the stores carry the 60 ml sizes.
Don't get me wrong, paying $92.50 for 60 ml of fluid should make this champagne worth $1156.75 per bottle, or $2300+ per magnum.
Gasoline at that cost would cost me (Chev Malibu)  $70,145,833.33  (seventy point one million dollars).
It seems like its a bit expensive to me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319426</id>
	<title>Re:Don't buy inkjets period</title>
	<author>Corporate Troll</author>
	<datestamp>1259848680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Inkjet was and always will be a half-assed home solution</p></div> </blockquote><p>No.  That is untrue.  As much as I am a Laser fan these day, I do remember the initial Deskjet days.  We had a HP Deskjet 500 and it lasted years and years and years and years.  In those days, HP built printers like tanks.  They were pricy too.  I think we bought ours for about 400&euro; back then.</p><p>I also own a HP Desktjet 320, which is essentially a HP Deskjet 500C in portable form.  While studying I was on the road often and that was useful.  When I graduated in 1998, I put it to retirement.  About a year ago a friend of my sisters was cash strapped and needed a computer with printer.  I put a dumpster-diven machine for her in order and gave her the 320.  I bothered to buy new cartridges.  (Hard to find)  I assumed the one in it would be dried out.  When I configured the printer, I let it do the printing with the original cartridge in it and the printing was perfect.  Yes, that cartridge was working perfectly after 10 years.</p><p>However, both the HP Deskjet 500 and the HP Deskjet 320 were built <i>before</i> inkjets became disposable items.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Inkjet was and always will be a half-assed home solution No .
That is untrue .
As much as I am a Laser fan these day , I do remember the initial Deskjet days .
We had a HP Deskjet 500 and it lasted years and years and years and years .
In those days , HP built printers like tanks .
They were pricy too .
I think we bought ours for about 400    back then.I also own a HP Desktjet 320 , which is essentially a HP Deskjet 500C in portable form .
While studying I was on the road often and that was useful .
When I graduated in 1998 , I put it to retirement .
About a year ago a friend of my sisters was cash strapped and needed a computer with printer .
I put a dumpster-diven machine for her in order and gave her the 320 .
I bothered to buy new cartridges .
( Hard to find ) I assumed the one in it would be dried out .
When I configured the printer , I let it do the printing with the original cartridge in it and the printing was perfect .
Yes , that cartridge was working perfectly after 10 years.However , both the HP Deskjet 500 and the HP Deskjet 320 were built before inkjets became disposable items .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Inkjet was and always will be a half-assed home solution No.
That is untrue.
As much as I am a Laser fan these day, I do remember the initial Deskjet days.
We had a HP Deskjet 500 and it lasted years and years and years and years.
In those days, HP built printers like tanks.
They were pricy too.
I think we bought ours for about 400€ back then.I also own a HP Desktjet 320, which is essentially a HP Deskjet 500C in portable form.
While studying I was on the road often and that was useful.
When I graduated in 1998, I put it to retirement.
About a year ago a friend of my sisters was cash strapped and needed a computer with printer.
I put a dumpster-diven machine for her in order and gave her the 320.
I bothered to buy new cartridges.
(Hard to find)  I assumed the one in it would be dried out.
When I configured the printer, I let it do the printing with the original cartridge in it and the printing was perfect.
Yes, that cartridge was working perfectly after 10 years.However, both the HP Deskjet 500 and the HP Deskjet 320 were built before inkjets became disposable items.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317256</id>
	<title>Switch to PDFs</title>
	<author>nanospook</author>
	<datestamp>1259838240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just a rhetorical question.. do you really need to print that much? (or your friend?) Lots of time, people print and then it just sits there or is put into a file.. switch to pdf's and skip using the printer..</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just a rhetorical question.. do you really need to print that much ?
( or your friend ?
) Lots of time , people print and then it just sits there or is put into a file.. switch to pdf 's and skip using the printer. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just a rhetorical question.. do you really need to print that much?
(or your friend?
) Lots of time, people print and then it just sits there or is put into a file.. switch to pdf's and skip using the printer..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30330168</id>
	<title>Disassemble it.</title>
	<author>danielpauldavis</author>
	<datestamp>1259926800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've become fairly skilled at answering such questions: I disassemble the thing into its constituent parts, setting the circuit boards aside for my city's next toxic waste round-up. Most of the item (whatever it is) is easily recycled plastic and metal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've become fairly skilled at answering such questions : I disassemble the thing into its constituent parts , setting the circuit boards aside for my city 's next toxic waste round-up .
Most of the item ( whatever it is ) is easily recycled plastic and metal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've become fairly skilled at answering such questions: I disassemble the thing into its constituent parts, setting the circuit boards aside for my city's next toxic waste round-up.
Most of the item (whatever it is) is easily recycled plastic and metal.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320212</id>
	<title>What do the cartridges cost for the new printer?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259855100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or do you plan to keep doing this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or do you plan to keep doing this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or do you plan to keep doing this?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320882</id>
	<title>Find someone to "recycle" the old printer</title>
	<author>The Wooden Badger</author>
	<datestamp>1259861880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got an old printer that I intend to take apart and use the innards on a terrain project for a miniature game.  It will be thrown away, but it won't be in a land fill.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got an old printer that I intend to take apart and use the innards on a terrain project for a miniature game .
It will be thrown away , but it wo n't be in a land fill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got an old printer that I intend to take apart and use the innards on a terrain project for a miniature game.
It will be thrown away, but it won't be in a land fill.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317344</id>
	<title>PC LOAD LETTER</title>
	<author>CohibaVancouver</author>
	<datestamp>1259838600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>PC LOAD LETTER</htmltext>
<tokenext>PC LOAD LETTER</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PC LOAD LETTER</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318212</id>
	<title>Re:Support Kodak's printers send the others a mess</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259842080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Kodak has had their printer line on the market for over a year now, they place the print head on the printer itself</p></div><p> <b>Big</b> mistake, in my opinion.  The print head can get clogged with dried ink, especially if you don't use the printer too often.  And you must use a <a href="http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/" title="fixyourownprinter.com" rel="nofollow">special solvent</a> [fixyourownprinter.com] to unclog them without causing damage.</p><p>AFAIK, Epson uses the same head-in-printer design, but their cartridges have annoying smart-chips that try to stop you from refilling them.  I have seen third-party devices offered that can reset the chip.</p><p>Let's concede that the head-on-cartridge design is to be praised, even if it increases the cost of the cartridges.  Fortunately there's a robust after-market that supplies knock-offs and recycled cartridges at lower prices.  Andy you can always refill them yourself.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kodak has had their printer line on the market for over a year now , they place the print head on the printer itself Big mistake , in my opinion .
The print head can get clogged with dried ink , especially if you do n't use the printer too often .
And you must use a special solvent [ fixyourownprinter.com ] to unclog them without causing damage.AFAIK , Epson uses the same head-in-printer design , but their cartridges have annoying smart-chips that try to stop you from refilling them .
I have seen third-party devices offered that can reset the chip.Let 's concede that the head-on-cartridge design is to be praised , even if it increases the cost of the cartridges .
Fortunately there 's a robust after-market that supplies knock-offs and recycled cartridges at lower prices .
Andy you can always refill them yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kodak has had their printer line on the market for over a year now, they place the print head on the printer itself Big mistake, in my opinion.
The print head can get clogged with dried ink, especially if you don't use the printer too often.
And you must use a special solvent [fixyourownprinter.com] to unclog them without causing damage.AFAIK, Epson uses the same head-in-printer design, but their cartridges have annoying smart-chips that try to stop you from refilling them.
I have seen third-party devices offered that can reset the chip.Let's concede that the head-on-cartridge design is to be praised, even if it increases the cost of the cartridges.
Fortunately there's a robust after-market that supplies knock-offs and recycled cartridges at lower prices.
Andy you can always refill them yourself.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316820</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317120</id>
	<title>How many times must we rehash this?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259837760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A printer is basically a CONTRACT with the COMPANY to buy their CONSUMABLES.</p><p>Printers are almost always sold at a cost and you pay for your consumables at a premium.<br>Cell phones are almost always sold at a discount and you pay a premium for your minutes.<br>Internet modems &amp; contracts.</p><p>The list goes on.</p><p>Want a laugh look at how many printers HP has kicked out the door since the beginning of time.<br>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_Hewlett-Packard\_products#Photosmart\_printers</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A printer is basically a CONTRACT with the COMPANY to buy their CONSUMABLES.Printers are almost always sold at a cost and you pay for your consumables at a premium.Cell phones are almost always sold at a discount and you pay a premium for your minutes.Internet modems &amp; contracts.The list goes on.Want a laugh look at how many printers HP has kicked out the door since the beginning of time.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List \ _of \ _Hewlett-Packard \ _products # Photosmart \ _printers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A printer is basically a CONTRACT with the COMPANY to buy their CONSUMABLES.Printers are almost always sold at a cost and you pay for your consumables at a premium.Cell phones are almost always sold at a discount and you pay a premium for your minutes.Internet modems &amp; contracts.The list goes on.Want a laugh look at how many printers HP has kicked out the door since the beginning of time.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_Hewlett-Packard\_products#Photosmart\_printers</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30323596</id>
	<title>My school was given a xerox phaser 6130</title>
	<author>sonicsteve</author>
	<datestamp>1259941560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This printer costs between $500-$600 canadian. I believe it was given by our dealer because they couldn't sell it, or because they knew that if we used it they would make a small fortune selling us replacement toner. Their are 4 toner cartridges each costs $80-$90 for xerox brand replacements. The cartridges are rated for 1900 pages which is like going through a box a tissues! Any serious printing of full color pages would burn through the toner in a month or less. Needless to say we use it sparingly, and collect $1 per page from students to use it. The toner almost costs as much as a the printer did new. How insane! While we are happy to have a color laser printer, I would never have bought this one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This printer costs between $ 500- $ 600 canadian .
I believe it was given by our dealer because they could n't sell it , or because they knew that if we used it they would make a small fortune selling us replacement toner .
Their are 4 toner cartridges each costs $ 80- $ 90 for xerox brand replacements .
The cartridges are rated for 1900 pages which is like going through a box a tissues !
Any serious printing of full color pages would burn through the toner in a month or less .
Needless to say we use it sparingly , and collect $ 1 per page from students to use it .
The toner almost costs as much as a the printer did new .
How insane !
While we are happy to have a color laser printer , I would never have bought this one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This printer costs between $500-$600 canadian.
I believe it was given by our dealer because they couldn't sell it, or because they knew that if we used it they would make a small fortune selling us replacement toner.
Their are 4 toner cartridges each costs $80-$90 for xerox brand replacements.
The cartridges are rated for 1900 pages which is like going through a box a tissues!
Any serious printing of full color pages would burn through the toner in a month or less.
Needless to say we use it sparingly, and collect $1 per page from students to use it.
The toner almost costs as much as a the printer did new.
How insane!
While we are happy to have a color laser printer, I would never have bought this one.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316978</id>
	<title>Don't buy it locally?</title>
	<author>humanparasite</author>
	<datestamp>1259837400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Claria-Hi-def-cartridges-T078920/dp/B000I7VL08" title="amazon.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Claria-Hi-def-cartridges-T078920/dp/B000I7VL08</a> [amazon.com]

Is the OEM ink from amazon for 50$.. If you don't require the HD Claria Ink then get some regular/cheap ink on ebay for 15-20$.

Expect to pay more for anything at a local (Best Buy) type store..</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.amazon.com/Epson-Claria-Hi-def-cartridges-T078920/dp/B000I7VL08 [ amazon.com ] Is the OEM ink from amazon for 50 $ .. If you do n't require the HD Claria Ink then get some regular/cheap ink on ebay for 15-20 $ .
Expect to pay more for anything at a local ( Best Buy ) type store. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Claria-Hi-def-cartridges-T078920/dp/B000I7VL08 [amazon.com]

Is the OEM ink from amazon for 50$.. If you don't require the HD Claria Ink then get some regular/cheap ink on ebay for 15-20$.
Expect to pay more for anything at a local (Best Buy) type store..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316950</id>
	<title>Give it to a hobo make her get a laser</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1259837280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Make her buy a laser printer. They are much MUCH cheaper than inkjets. Cost per print is fantastically cheaper. And unless you only do a few prints a year it makes perfectly good sense. For a student they pay themselves off in 6months.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Make her buy a laser printer .
They are much MUCH cheaper than inkjets .
Cost per print is fantastically cheaper .
And unless you only do a few prints a year it makes perfectly good sense .
For a student they pay themselves off in 6months .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make her buy a laser printer.
They are much MUCH cheaper than inkjets.
Cost per print is fantastically cheaper.
And unless you only do a few prints a year it makes perfectly good sense.
For a student they pay themselves off in 6months.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320416</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space</title>
	<author>vickiweir</author>
	<datestamp>1259857080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I believe you have my stapler.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe you have my stapler .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe you have my stapler.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316418</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320442</id>
	<title>WOW!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259857320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Just be wary of the flyback transformers in these old CRTs.<br>&gt; Make sure they have been discharged before you mess with destroying monitors via the Office Space route.</p><p>If the flyback transformer still stores energy after you carted the CRT to your field, then you might want to send that remarkable device to the LHC guys at CERN, who would sure like to have a look at it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Just be wary of the flyback transformers in these old CRTs. &gt; Make sure they have been discharged before you mess with destroying monitors via the Office Space route.If the flyback transformer still stores energy after you carted the CRT to your field , then you might want to send that remarkable device to the LHC guys at CERN , who would sure like to have a look at it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Just be wary of the flyback transformers in these old CRTs.&gt; Make sure they have been discharged before you mess with destroying monitors via the Office Space route.If the flyback transformer still stores energy after you carted the CRT to your field, then you might want to send that remarkable device to the LHC guys at CERN, who would sure like to have a look at it!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30328644</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>chihowa</author>
	<datestamp>1259920080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I prefer a using shotgun and slugs. At the very least, the holes it leaves are big. Usually, you get some pretty satisfying results, though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I prefer a using shotgun and slugs .
At the very least , the holes it leaves are big .
Usually , you get some pretty satisfying results , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I prefer a using shotgun and slugs.
At the very least, the holes it leaves are big.
Usually, you get some pretty satisfying results, though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319924</id>
	<title>By Neruos</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259852580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's called capitalism and it isn't perfect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's called capitalism and it is n't perfect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's called capitalism and it isn't perfect.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320644</id>
	<title>Re:Don't buy inkjets period</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259858940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agreed. I moved from an absolutely terrible HP All-in-one 3200 to: a) a Brother Color Laser/Fax/Scanner and b) a cannon dye-sub.</p><p>Color Laser can't be beat and the dye-sub absolutely rocks (and is portable to boot).</p><p>Best decision ever. No more performing maintenance messages exactly when I need to print something in a hurry, no more $80 ink-runs.</p><p>It just works...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed .
I moved from an absolutely terrible HP All-in-one 3200 to : a ) a Brother Color Laser/Fax/Scanner and b ) a cannon dye-sub.Color Laser ca n't be beat and the dye-sub absolutely rocks ( and is portable to boot ) .Best decision ever .
No more performing maintenance messages exactly when I need to print something in a hurry , no more $ 80 ink-runs.It just works.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed.
I moved from an absolutely terrible HP All-in-one 3200 to: a) a Brother Color Laser/Fax/Scanner and b) a cannon dye-sub.Color Laser can't be beat and the dye-sub absolutely rocks (and is portable to boot).Best decision ever.
No more performing maintenance messages exactly when I need to print something in a hurry, no more $80 ink-runs.It just works...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318522</id>
	<title>Is it WEEE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259843520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does it have a WEEE logo? Do you know what that is? WEEE directive? Who made the product? A lot of companies now will take back old electronics. Some places in the EU companies are required to take things back. Search the net for extended producer responsibility. Maybe ask the epa? http://www.epa.gov/waste/conserve/materials/ecycling/index.htm</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it have a WEEE logo ?
Do you know what that is ?
WEEE directive ?
Who made the product ?
A lot of companies now will take back old electronics .
Some places in the EU companies are required to take things back .
Search the net for extended producer responsibility .
Maybe ask the epa ?
http : //www.epa.gov/waste/conserve/materials/ecycling/index.htm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it have a WEEE logo?
Do you know what that is?
WEEE directive?
Who made the product?
A lot of companies now will take back old electronics.
Some places in the EU companies are required to take things back.
Search the net for extended producer responsibility.
Maybe ask the epa?
http://www.epa.gov/waste/conserve/materials/ecycling/index.htm</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320308</id>
	<title>Frikken laser beams</title>
	<author>Naut</author>
	<datestamp>1259856180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have an ancient LaserJet 4 HP printer , I will cry when it dies . I had several inkjets and i vow never to go back , I used to buy them and when they ran out of ink go out and get another ($25 for printer or $30 for black ink ?) . I got it from my wifes work with spare toner .</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an ancient LaserJet 4 HP printer , I will cry when it dies .
I had several inkjets and i vow never to go back , I used to buy them and when they ran out of ink go out and get another ( $ 25 for printer or $ 30 for black ink ?
) .
I got it from my wifes work with spare toner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an ancient LaserJet 4 HP printer , I will cry when it dies .
I had several inkjets and i vow never to go back , I used to buy them and when they ran out of ink go out and get another ($25 for printer or $30 for black ink ?
) .
I got it from my wifes work with spare toner .</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321666</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space re-enactment</title>
	<author>FragHARD</author>
	<datestamp>1259959080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>or explosivez or firearmz !!!! for step 3</htmltext>
<tokenext>or explosivez or firearmz ! ! ! !
for step 3</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or explosivez or firearmz !!!!
for step 3</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316458</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320204</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space</title>
	<author>Smashe01</author>
	<datestamp>1259854980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>All you need is a bat</p></div><p>Die Motha Fucka, Die Motha Fucka still fool.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>All you need is a batDie Motha Fucka , Die Motha Fucka still fool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All you need is a batDie Motha Fucka, Die Motha Fucka still fool.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316488</id>
	<title>Just throw it away</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259835960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Believe it or not, some waste is just waste, with no real use, just throw it away.  Keeping giant metal paperweights around just because you feel bad throwing away something potentially useful but that you'll never use just doesn't make sense.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Believe it or not , some waste is just waste , with no real use , just throw it away .
Keeping giant metal paperweights around just because you feel bad throwing away something potentially useful but that you 'll never use just does n't make sense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Believe it or not, some waste is just waste, with no real use, just throw it away.
Keeping giant metal paperweights around just because you feel bad throwing away something potentially useful but that you'll never use just doesn't make sense.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30327944</id>
	<title>Re:Don't buy inkjets period</title>
	<author>amilo100</author>
	<datestamp>1259960340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>It's simple. Don't buy inkjets. </i> <br> <br>

I wouldn&rsquo;t go that far. You should just buy smart. Do not buy anything with Lexmark, Epson or Canon on it (especially Lexmark, they are evil). Check beforehand if the cartridges can be refilled. <br> <br>

I&rsquo;ve bought an HP inkjet+scanner (F350 or something) 2 years back. I print a lot. The cartridge is an HP21 cartridge. The printer costed around $60 bucks with a colour and black cartridge (multiple uses). To refill a cartridge you simply pull the sticker back, stick a needle in the hole and inject ink. It is as fast as immunising a rat. For the black cartridges (I don&rsquo;t use colour) I get about 30 refills before the quality declines. A refill costs about $1 and is good for about half a ream of paper.<br> <br>
I&rsquo;ve shopped around for cartridges also. In brand name shops a cartridge will cost around $37. I found cartridges that sell for $20 though (imported from Singapore). This is original, brand new HP21 cartridges (probably gray imports). The moral of the story is to shop around.<br> <br>

Also, if you are refilling, check that the cartridge doesn&rsquo;t run dry (this damages the printhead and reduces the quality). As soon as you are out of ink you should refill. Another thing is that if you use Vista, use the native Vista drivers. The normal drivers are irritating (telling you the cartridge is empty when you refilled it. This doesn&rsquo;t prevent printing but it is irritating).<br> <br>

One of my family members picked up a printer printing with an HP21 cartridge for around $40 dollars. This included the cartridges. The only catch was that it came with a funny plug that had to be replaced (probably a grey import from a funny country). HP printers are also nice for printing double sided pages.<br> <br>

Many cheap laser printers have the same model as cheap inkjet printers (Gillette model: Give the shaver away and sell the blades). So their refills are extremely expensive. <br> <br>

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<tokenext>It 's simple .
Do n't buy inkjets .
I wouldn    t go that far .
You should just buy smart .
Do not buy anything with Lexmark , Epson or Canon on it ( especially Lexmark , they are evil ) .
Check beforehand if the cartridges can be refilled .
I    ve bought an HP inkjet + scanner ( F350 or something ) 2 years back .
I print a lot .
The cartridge is an HP21 cartridge .
The printer costed around $ 60 bucks with a colour and black cartridge ( multiple uses ) .
To refill a cartridge you simply pull the sticker back , stick a needle in the hole and inject ink .
It is as fast as immunising a rat .
For the black cartridges ( I don    t use colour ) I get about 30 refills before the quality declines .
A refill costs about $ 1 and is good for about half a ream of paper .
I    ve shopped around for cartridges also .
In brand name shops a cartridge will cost around $ 37 .
I found cartridges that sell for $ 20 though ( imported from Singapore ) .
This is original , brand new HP21 cartridges ( probably gray imports ) .
The moral of the story is to shop around .
Also , if you are refilling , check that the cartridge doesn    t run dry ( this damages the printhead and reduces the quality ) .
As soon as you are out of ink you should refill .
Another thing is that if you use Vista , use the native Vista drivers .
The normal drivers are irritating ( telling you the cartridge is empty when you refilled it .
This doesn    t prevent printing but it is irritating ) .
One of my family members picked up a printer printing with an HP21 cartridge for around $ 40 dollars .
This included the cartridges .
The only catch was that it came with a funny plug that had to be replaced ( probably a grey import from a funny country ) .
HP printers are also nice for printing double sided pages .
Many cheap laser printers have the same model as cheap inkjet printers ( Gillette model : Give the shaver away and sell the blades ) .
So their refills are extremely expensive .
\ rant</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's simple.
Don't buy inkjets.
I wouldn’t go that far.
You should just buy smart.
Do not buy anything with Lexmark, Epson or Canon on it (especially Lexmark, they are evil).
Check beforehand if the cartridges can be refilled.
I’ve bought an HP inkjet+scanner (F350 or something) 2 years back.
I print a lot.
The cartridge is an HP21 cartridge.
The printer costed around $60 bucks with a colour and black cartridge (multiple uses).
To refill a cartridge you simply pull the sticker back, stick a needle in the hole and inject ink.
It is as fast as immunising a rat.
For the black cartridges (I don’t use colour) I get about 30 refills before the quality declines.
A refill costs about $1 and is good for about half a ream of paper.
I’ve shopped around for cartridges also.
In brand name shops a cartridge will cost around $37.
I found cartridges that sell for $20 though (imported from Singapore).
This is original, brand new HP21 cartridges (probably gray imports).
The moral of the story is to shop around.
Also, if you are refilling, check that the cartridge doesn’t run dry (this damages the printhead and reduces the quality).
As soon as you are out of ink you should refill.
Another thing is that if you use Vista, use the native Vista drivers.
The normal drivers are irritating (telling you the cartridge is empty when you refilled it.
This doesn’t prevent printing but it is irritating).
One of my family members picked up a printer printing with an HP21 cartridge for around $40 dollars.
This included the cartridges.
The only catch was that it came with a funny plug that had to be replaced (probably a grey import from a funny country).
HP printers are also nice for printing double sided pages.
Many cheap laser printers have the same model as cheap inkjet printers (Gillette model: Give the shaver away and sell the blades).
So their refills are extremely expensive.
\rant</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30326710</id>
	<title>Re:Don't buy inkjets period</title>
	<author>oh2</author>
	<datestamp>1259955000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We have a couple laserjet 4000 at my school. They are more than 10 years old, in heavy use and all we do is replace the toner when its depleted. They seem almost unbreakable, if a bit slow by modern standard.
 One wonders if the color laserjet 3525 we bought last year will still be chugging along in 2018...</htmltext>
<tokenext>We have a couple laserjet 4000 at my school .
They are more than 10 years old , in heavy use and all we do is replace the toner when its depleted .
They seem almost unbreakable , if a bit slow by modern standard .
One wonders if the color laserjet 3525 we bought last year will still be chugging along in 2018.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have a couple laserjet 4000 at my school.
They are more than 10 years old, in heavy use and all we do is replace the toner when its depleted.
They seem almost unbreakable, if a bit slow by modern standard.
One wonders if the color laserjet 3525 we bought last year will still be chugging along in 2018...</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319878</id>
	<title>long term investment</title>
	<author>newtbrick</author>
	<datestamp>1259852280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I still have, and use, an Epson 740 (circa 1999) as my primary printer. Black cartridges cost me ~10$ at the local grey market computer shop. It even got me through university.

As soon as they started including print heads in the cartridges, or shutting down all printing until the color is replenished, I said 'no thank you' to the idea of a new printer.

Something tells me I am not Epson's target market.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still have , and use , an Epson 740 ( circa 1999 ) as my primary printer .
Black cartridges cost me ~ 10 $ at the local grey market computer shop .
It even got me through university .
As soon as they started including print heads in the cartridges , or shutting down all printing until the color is replenished , I said 'no thank you ' to the idea of a new printer .
Something tells me I am not Epson 's target market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still have, and use, an Epson 740 (circa 1999) as my primary printer.
Black cartridges cost me ~10$ at the local grey market computer shop.
It even got me through university.
As soon as they started including print heads in the cartridges, or shutting down all printing until the color is replenished, I said 'no thank you' to the idea of a new printer.
Something tells me I am not Epson's target market.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319204</id>
	<title>Re:Don't buy inkjets period</title>
	<author>EdIII</author>
	<datestamp>1259847180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>In the same space of time, I have had just 2 lasers and 1 dyesub, all still working</p></div></blockquote><p>That's why you get what you pay for.  Inkjets are, and always will be, a rip-off scam from the manufacturers.  You get a very low upfront cost with a very high maintenance, replacement, and supply cost.  That's why they fight so viciously about Inket refill companies stealing their profit.  It's like drug dealers fighting over their turf.</p><p>I still have my LaserJet 4000 (with a JetDirect) from 1997.  No printer cables, no shared printer bullshit, just a straightforward printer on every single connected device to the network.</p><p>Probably bought maybe 15 cartridges in that time period.  That's about $1500, and the printer cost me $1700 back in 1997. So... That works out to an average cost of 2c per page (cheap).  I also got at least 170,000 pages out of it by now.  Does not look like it will ever break either and I don't think I would be surprised to still be using it in 2019.</p><p>These days you can get color laserjets for under $800.  Still print black and white for around 2c a page and color for a fraction of inkjet prices.</p><p>Inkjets?  High costs, low quality, and short lifespans?  Only the ignorant unwashed masses buy them because they can't do the math.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the same space of time , I have had just 2 lasers and 1 dyesub , all still workingThat 's why you get what you pay for .
Inkjets are , and always will be , a rip-off scam from the manufacturers .
You get a very low upfront cost with a very high maintenance , replacement , and supply cost .
That 's why they fight so viciously about Inket refill companies stealing their profit .
It 's like drug dealers fighting over their turf.I still have my LaserJet 4000 ( with a JetDirect ) from 1997 .
No printer cables , no shared printer bullshit , just a straightforward printer on every single connected device to the network.Probably bought maybe 15 cartridges in that time period .
That 's about $ 1500 , and the printer cost me $ 1700 back in 1997 .
So... That works out to an average cost of 2c per page ( cheap ) .
I also got at least 170,000 pages out of it by now .
Does not look like it will ever break either and I do n't think I would be surprised to still be using it in 2019.These days you can get color laserjets for under $ 800 .
Still print black and white for around 2c a page and color for a fraction of inkjet prices.Inkjets ?
High costs , low quality , and short lifespans ?
Only the ignorant unwashed masses buy them because they ca n't do the math .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the same space of time, I have had just 2 lasers and 1 dyesub, all still workingThat's why you get what you pay for.
Inkjets are, and always will be, a rip-off scam from the manufacturers.
You get a very low upfront cost with a very high maintenance, replacement, and supply cost.
That's why they fight so viciously about Inket refill companies stealing their profit.
It's like drug dealers fighting over their turf.I still have my LaserJet 4000 (with a JetDirect) from 1997.
No printer cables, no shared printer bullshit, just a straightforward printer on every single connected device to the network.Probably bought maybe 15 cartridges in that time period.
That's about $1500, and the printer cost me $1700 back in 1997.
So... That works out to an average cost of 2c per page (cheap).
I also got at least 170,000 pages out of it by now.
Does not look like it will ever break either and I don't think I would be surprised to still be using it in 2019.These days you can get color laserjets for under $800.
Still print black and white for around 2c a page and color for a fraction of inkjet prices.Inkjets?
High costs, low quality, and short lifespans?
Only the ignorant unwashed masses buy them because they can't do the math.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30323832</id>
	<title>Re:dyesub? Seriously?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259942820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dye-sub is not wax.  Dye-sub transfers color from a dye applied to a plastic film in a heating process.  Dye-sub prints CMYO where the O is a water &amp; UV light resistant overlay layer instead of black dye.  It is very durable.</p><p>As for myself, I recently ditched all ink-jets in the house and just got a color laser printer.  One of the best things I've ever done.  I will never buy another ink-jet ever again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dye-sub is not wax .
Dye-sub transfers color from a dye applied to a plastic film in a heating process .
Dye-sub prints CMYO where the O is a water &amp; UV light resistant overlay layer instead of black dye .
It is very durable.As for myself , I recently ditched all ink-jets in the house and just got a color laser printer .
One of the best things I 've ever done .
I will never buy another ink-jet ever again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dye-sub is not wax.
Dye-sub transfers color from a dye applied to a plastic film in a heating process.
Dye-sub prints CMYO where the O is a water &amp; UV light resistant overlay layer instead of black dye.
It is very durable.As for myself, I recently ditched all ink-jets in the house and just got a color laser printer.
One of the best things I've ever done.
I will never buy another ink-jet ever again.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316446</id>
	<title>Printers don't come with (much) ink.</title>
	<author>onion2k</author>
	<datestamp>1259835840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The printer that you buy with ink comes with cartridges that are, at most, half full. Usually it's considerably less than half. It might <i>feel</i> cheaper, but in dollars-per-print it's not, and that's the only metric that really measures the value you're getting.</p><p>Next time, don't fall for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The printer that you buy with ink comes with cartridges that are , at most , half full .
Usually it 's considerably less than half .
It might feel cheaper , but in dollars-per-print it 's not , and that 's the only metric that really measures the value you 're getting.Next time , do n't fall for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The printer that you buy with ink comes with cartridges that are, at most, half full.
Usually it's considerably less than half.
It might feel cheaper, but in dollars-per-print it's not, and that's the only metric that really measures the value you're getting.Next time, don't fall for it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318018</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Khyber</author>
	<datestamp>1259841180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"There's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter."</p><p>Umm, yea. You do know some pigments cannot be synthesized and have to be extracted from natural sources?</p><p>Read about purple dye, sometime. It's still the hardest color to produce.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" There 's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter .
" Umm , yea .
You do know some pigments can not be synthesized and have to be extracted from natural sources ? Read about purple dye , sometime .
It 's still the hardest color to produce .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"There's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.
"Umm, yea.
You do know some pigments cannot be synthesized and have to be extracted from natural sources?Read about purple dye, sometime.
It's still the hardest color to produce.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322894</id>
	<title>Work</title>
	<author>clam666</author>
	<datestamp>1259936700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just always use the laser printers at work.  Brings my costs down to zero.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just always use the laser printers at work .
Brings my costs down to zero .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just always use the laser printers at work.
Brings my costs down to zero.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317590</id>
	<title>Average cost per page printed</title>
	<author>huwr</author>
	<datestamp>1259839380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I guess when buying a printer instead of only looking at the cost of the machine and/or its consumables, it might be worthwhile calculating what the average cost per page printed would be.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess when buying a printer instead of only looking at the cost of the machine and/or its consumables , it might be worthwhile calculating what the average cost per page printed would be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess when buying a printer instead of only looking at the cost of the machine and/or its consumables, it might be worthwhile calculating what the average cost per page printed would be.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317460</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space</title>
	<author>BoppreH</author>
	<datestamp>1259838960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I spent some time wondering what were you going to do with a flying mammal and a printer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I spent some time wondering what were you going to do with a flying mammal and a printer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I spent some time wondering what were you going to do with a flying mammal and a printer.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316822</id>
	<title>Throw it away and buy a real printer</title>
	<author>Gothmolly</author>
	<datestamp>1259836920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tell you're friend they're a sucker, and tell them to buy a real printer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tell you 're friend they 're a sucker , and tell them to buy a real printer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tell you're friend they're a sucker, and tell them to buy a real printer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320168</id>
	<title>lasermonks.com</title>
	<author>wzinc</author>
	<datestamp>1259854680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://lasermonks.com/" title="lasermonks.com" rel="nofollow">http://lasermonks.com/</a> [lasermonks.com]</p><p>I haven't paid full price since 2003.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //lasermonks.com/ [ lasermonks.com ] I have n't paid full price since 2003 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://lasermonks.com/ [lasermonks.com]I haven't paid full price since 2003.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319702</id>
	<title>Re:Don't buy inkjets period</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259850960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just don't leave that dye-sub print in the sun.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just do n't leave that dye-sub print in the sun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just don't leave that dye-sub print in the sun.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316896</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>pgn674</author>
	<datestamp>1259837100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The new printer you bought came with "demo" ink cartridges that are nearly empty, compared with full ones.  You didn't get a bargain.</p></div><p>I think by saying he got "spare ink", he meant that he got the new printer plus replacement ink for less than the replacement ink for the old printer would have cost. Or, maybe he was just saying that the spare ink for the new printer costs less than the spare ink for the old printer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The new printer you bought came with " demo " ink cartridges that are nearly empty , compared with full ones .
You did n't get a bargain.I think by saying he got " spare ink " , he meant that he got the new printer plus replacement ink for less than the replacement ink for the old printer would have cost .
Or , maybe he was just saying that the spare ink for the new printer costs less than the spare ink for the old printer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The new printer you bought came with "demo" ink cartridges that are nearly empty, compared with full ones.
You didn't get a bargain.I think by saying he got "spare ink", he meant that he got the new printer plus replacement ink for less than the replacement ink for the old printer would have cost.
Or, maybe he was just saying that the spare ink for the new printer costs less than the spare ink for the old printer.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30326928</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>GerryHattrick</author>
	<datestamp>1259955960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I dropped my VCR97 (remember?) on the train station while going to Hogwarts, or similar.  It imploded nicely. (happy days!).  They delayed the train half an hour while police tried to find whose blood was on all the baggage in the van.  We took our hobbies seriously, then.  One look at me, and the train was cleared to leave.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I dropped my VCR97 ( remember ?
) on the train station while going to Hogwarts , or similar .
It imploded nicely .
( happy days ! ) .
They delayed the train half an hour while police tried to find whose blood was on all the baggage in the van .
We took our hobbies seriously , then .
One look at me , and the train was cleared to leave .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dropped my VCR97 (remember?
) on the train station while going to Hogwarts, or similar.
It imploded nicely.
(happy days!).
They delayed the train half an hour while police tried to find whose blood was on all the baggage in the van.
We took our hobbies seriously, then.
One look at me, and the train was cleared to leave.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317222</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>plasmacutter</author>
	<datestamp>1259838120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>There's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.</p></div><p>It doesn't, but the cost to the company is not just the cost of the pigments, it is also the loss leader price for just about every printer they sell; especially true with the consumer grade laser and photo printers. The market has demonstrated, whether through ignorance or otherwise, that they prefer the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razor\_and\_blades" title="wikipedia.org">razor and blades</a> [wikipedia.org] model to paying what the individual items actually cost. This could happen even in the absence of any collusion.</p></div><p>This is BAD for the public, and should be discouraged by law. The "razor and blades" model is what has bankrupted our economy. It stretches one time expenses into sustained costs, prompting horrendous debt.  The irresponsibility loss-leaders encourage is easily as destructive as credit industry practices which were recently barred by regulation because they contributed to our economic collapse.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.It does n't , but the cost to the company is not just the cost of the pigments , it is also the loss leader price for just about every printer they sell ; especially true with the consumer grade laser and photo printers .
The market has demonstrated , whether through ignorance or otherwise , that they prefer the razor and blades [ wikipedia.org ] model to paying what the individual items actually cost .
This could happen even in the absence of any collusion.This is BAD for the public , and should be discouraged by law .
The " razor and blades " model is what has bankrupted our economy .
It stretches one time expenses into sustained costs , prompting horrendous debt .
The irresponsibility loss-leaders encourage is easily as destructive as credit industry practices which were recently barred by regulation because they contributed to our economic collapse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.It doesn't, but the cost to the company is not just the cost of the pigments, it is also the loss leader price for just about every printer they sell; especially true with the consumer grade laser and photo printers.
The market has demonstrated, whether through ignorance or otherwise, that they prefer the razor and blades [wikipedia.org] model to paying what the individual items actually cost.
This could happen even in the absence of any collusion.This is BAD for the public, and should be discouraged by law.
The "razor and blades" model is what has bankrupted our economy.
It stretches one time expenses into sustained costs, prompting horrendous debt.
The irresponsibility loss-leaders encourage is easily as destructive as credit industry practices which were recently barred by regulation because they contributed to our economic collapse.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318074</id>
	<title>Simply trash it</title>
	<author>fluch</author>
	<datestamp>1259841480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Simply trash it, learn the lesson and buy a proper printer next time where the company does not hide the production costs of the printer in the cartridges costs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Simply trash it , learn the lesson and buy a proper printer next time where the company does not hide the production costs of the printer in the cartridges costs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Simply trash it, learn the lesson and buy a proper printer next time where the company does not hide the production costs of the printer in the cartridges costs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322160</id>
	<title>Re:Prevent.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259924640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> I hope your printers are battery powered.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope your printers are battery powered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I hope your printers are battery powered.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316508</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316714</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>LOLLinux</author>
	<datestamp>1259836500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Thus you don't need to hunt for drivers every time Microsoft decide to change driver model</p></div><p>Which has happened how many times?  Oh and let's not forget how you can use XP drivers in Vista and 7.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thus you do n't need to hunt for drivers every time Microsoft decide to change driver modelWhich has happened how many times ?
Oh and let 's not forget how you can use XP drivers in Vista and 7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thus you don't need to hunt for drivers every time Microsoft decide to change driver modelWhich has happened how many times?
Oh and let's not forget how you can use XP drivers in Vista and 7.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320504</id>
	<title>Inkjet printers are doomed in the long term</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259857800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>We were using an Epson to make product CDs.  We found it was cheaper to just buy a new printer rather than buy ink all.  The reliability problems of inkjets are seriously bad. It's horrific ethically and morally to just toss the printer but it's simple economic reality.  Laser printers are definitely the way to go for anything but specialty printing.<p>

Used to work for HP and this is one of the serious stupid aspects of how they've run their business over the last two decades: their only real value and IP, dollar-wise, is inkjet cartridges.  They don't make much else themselves (OK, blade computers but I'll bet not that much of it is actually hp-made even then).  This is such a weak business model and position it's absolutely mind-boggling!  Pretty much why I liquidated every share of stock and stock option I had the first chance I got.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We were using an Epson to make product CDs .
We found it was cheaper to just buy a new printer rather than buy ink all .
The reliability problems of inkjets are seriously bad .
It 's horrific ethically and morally to just toss the printer but it 's simple economic reality .
Laser printers are definitely the way to go for anything but specialty printing .
Used to work for HP and this is one of the serious stupid aspects of how they 've run their business over the last two decades : their only real value and IP , dollar-wise , is inkjet cartridges .
They do n't make much else themselves ( OK , blade computers but I 'll bet not that much of it is actually hp-made even then ) .
This is such a weak business model and position it 's absolutely mind-boggling !
Pretty much why I liquidated every share of stock and stock option I had the first chance I got .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We were using an Epson to make product CDs.
We found it was cheaper to just buy a new printer rather than buy ink all.
The reliability problems of inkjets are seriously bad.
It's horrific ethically and morally to just toss the printer but it's simple economic reality.
Laser printers are definitely the way to go for anything but specialty printing.
Used to work for HP and this is one of the serious stupid aspects of how they've run their business over the last two decades: their only real value and IP, dollar-wise, is inkjet cartridges.
They don't make much else themselves (OK, blade computers but I'll bet not that much of it is actually hp-made even then).
This is such a weak business model and position it's absolutely mind-boggling!
Pretty much why I liquidated every share of stock and stock option I had the first chance I got.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317438</id>
	<title>Re: castoffs</title>
	<author>macraig</author>
	<datestamp>1259838900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about a home automation system built entirely from scrap printers?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about a home automation system built entirely from scrap printers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about a home automation system built entirely from scrap printers?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316508</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317090</id>
	<title>art project</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1259837760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Collect donated waste printers from people on the net. Then epoxy them together as a monument to the efficiency of capitalism!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Collect donated waste printers from people on the net .
Then epoxy them together as a monument to the efficiency of capitalism !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Collect donated waste printers from people on the net.
Then epoxy them together as a monument to the efficiency of capitalism!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319656</id>
	<title>Send it back!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259850540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Send the pos printer back to Epson.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Send the pos printer back to Epson .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Send the pos printer back to Epson.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322532</id>
	<title>Disassemble and build a robot</title>
	<author>FrankDerKte</author>
	<datestamp>1259932260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some even cheap printers include some good rotary encoders and servos. <a href="http://www.vsi.cs.uni-frankfurt.de/research/robot-gallery/norman/" title="uni-frankfurt.de" rel="nofollow">This robot</a> [uni-frankfurt.de] was build mainly from parts of old streamers and printers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some even cheap printers include some good rotary encoders and servos .
This robot [ uni-frankfurt.de ] was build mainly from parts of old streamers and printers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some even cheap printers include some good rotary encoders and servos.
This robot [uni-frankfurt.de] was build mainly from parts of old streamers and printers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30323390</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Pigeon451</author>
	<datestamp>1259940360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's also the research costs. It takes a LOT of time to determine what the optimum pigments, solutions, head size, etc are for your prints to look great. The cheap knock-offs just imitate what was already made, and generally look good but not "great".</p><p>This is also the reason pharmaceutical companies charge so much for medicine. Actual production costs very little, it's the research that's the killer...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's also the research costs .
It takes a LOT of time to determine what the optimum pigments , solutions , head size , etc are for your prints to look great .
The cheap knock-offs just imitate what was already made , and generally look good but not " great " .This is also the reason pharmaceutical companies charge so much for medicine .
Actual production costs very little , it 's the research that 's the killer.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's also the research costs.
It takes a LOT of time to determine what the optimum pigments, solutions, head size, etc are for your prints to look great.
The cheap knock-offs just imitate what was already made, and generally look good but not "great".This is also the reason pharmaceutical companies charge so much for medicine.
Actual production costs very little, it's the research that's the killer...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316894</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320912</id>
	<title>Not True</title>
	<author>CSMatt</author>
	<datestamp>1259862180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You also need an audio system of some sort and a copy of "Still" by the Ghetto Boys.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You also need an audio system of some sort and a copy of " Still " by the Ghetto Boys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You also need an audio system of some sort and a copy of "Still" by the Ghetto Boys.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316418</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316918</id>
	<title>Go to one of the folks who refill ink/toner.</title>
	<author>glaese</author>
	<datestamp>1259837160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>quite a cottage industry has sprung up the last couple of years. You can get ink/toner for a 1/4 of the cost of new when you refill.</htmltext>
<tokenext>quite a cottage industry has sprung up the last couple of years .
You can get ink/toner for a 1/4 of the cost of new when you refill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>quite a cottage industry has sprung up the last couple of years.
You can get ink/toner for a 1/4 of the cost of new when you refill.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317526</id>
	<title>Donate it to a school or charity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259839140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Goodwill will take it and someone will buy it. There are charities that take printers and computers and give them to third world nations for their schools and poor.</p><p>Did you know that most ink carts are refillable in some way? There are ink refill kits, and ink refill services, and also clone ink carts that cost less to buy. My father refills his own ink carts and he barely knows how to use a computer, so I am sure the average Slashdotter should know how to do that.</p><p>I refill my own Laser printer toner carts by adding in more toner via a hole in the cart and a plug. Ink carts refill the same way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Goodwill will take it and someone will buy it .
There are charities that take printers and computers and give them to third world nations for their schools and poor.Did you know that most ink carts are refillable in some way ?
There are ink refill kits , and ink refill services , and also clone ink carts that cost less to buy .
My father refills his own ink carts and he barely knows how to use a computer , so I am sure the average Slashdotter should know how to do that.I refill my own Laser printer toner carts by adding in more toner via a hole in the cart and a plug .
Ink carts refill the same way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Goodwill will take it and someone will buy it.
There are charities that take printers and computers and give them to third world nations for their schools and poor.Did you know that most ink carts are refillable in some way?
There are ink refill kits, and ink refill services, and also clone ink carts that cost less to buy.
My father refills his own ink carts and he barely knows how to use a computer, so I am sure the average Slashdotter should know how to do that.I refill my own Laser printer toner carts by adding in more toner via a hole in the cart and a plug.
Ink carts refill the same way.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320984</id>
	<title>Re:The old fashioned way</title>
	<author>mobets</author>
	<datestamp>1259862960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was a 6 color photo printer. He'd have to come up with a couple more fluids...</p><p>On a more serious note, I don't think any 4-color printer is going to match it in photo quality, much less a sub-$100 one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was a 6 color photo printer .
He 'd have to come up with a couple more fluids...On a more serious note , I do n't think any 4-color printer is going to match it in photo quality , much less a sub- $ 100 one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was a 6 color photo printer.
He'd have to come up with a couple more fluids...On a more serious note, I don't think any 4-color printer is going to match it in photo quality, much less a sub-$100 one.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321064</id>
	<title>Put it out to the road...</title>
	<author>TavisJohn</author>
	<datestamp>1259864040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But place it on top in full view.  SOMEONE will pick it up, and think that it is a deal.</p><p>This sort of problem has been around for years (Decades).  One friend of mine would purchase some of those cheap, crappy printers on sale, then when it ran out of ink, he would swap it out for another disposable printer.</p><p>One thing I tell everyone who goes printer shopping is to look at BOTH the price of the printer AND the ink.  That way they do not get stuck with buying really expensive ink.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But place it on top in full view .
SOMEONE will pick it up , and think that it is a deal.This sort of problem has been around for years ( Decades ) .
One friend of mine would purchase some of those cheap , crappy printers on sale , then when it ran out of ink , he would swap it out for another disposable printer.One thing I tell everyone who goes printer shopping is to look at BOTH the price of the printer AND the ink .
That way they do not get stuck with buying really expensive ink .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But place it on top in full view.
SOMEONE will pick it up, and think that it is a deal.This sort of problem has been around for years (Decades).
One friend of mine would purchase some of those cheap, crappy printers on sale, then when it ran out of ink, he would swap it out for another disposable printer.One thing I tell everyone who goes printer shopping is to look at BOTH the price of the printer AND the ink.
That way they do not get stuck with buying really expensive ink.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316496</id>
	<title>Some ideas</title>
	<author>Red Flayer</author>
	<datestamp>1259835960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What can you do with a printer like that? I hate to just throw it away.</p></div></blockquote><p>Recycle it.  Donate it to a worthy group.  The Lupus Foundation (and others, I'm sure) will even come and pick it up (though, it's a bit of a white elehpant for them since the toner is so expensive).<br> <br>Take it apart and make a sculpture from the parts.  Take it apart and see if it will blend.  Take the blended parts and stuff them into small balls of ground raw meat to feed to the neighbors dog that won't stay off your property.<br> <br>Put it on freecycle.org.  <br> <br>I have a collection of 5-6 working printers in my garage.  Someday I'm going to build a sculpture from them, if my wife doesn't make me give them away so we can store some useless junk instead (tongue fully in cheek).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What can you do with a printer like that ?
I hate to just throw it away.Recycle it .
Donate it to a worthy group .
The Lupus Foundation ( and others , I 'm sure ) will even come and pick it up ( though , it 's a bit of a white elehpant for them since the toner is so expensive ) .
Take it apart and make a sculpture from the parts .
Take it apart and see if it will blend .
Take the blended parts and stuff them into small balls of ground raw meat to feed to the neighbors dog that wo n't stay off your property .
Put it on freecycle.org .
I have a collection of 5-6 working printers in my garage .
Someday I 'm going to build a sculpture from them , if my wife does n't make me give them away so we can store some useless junk instead ( tongue fully in cheek ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What can you do with a printer like that?
I hate to just throw it away.Recycle it.
Donate it to a worthy group.
The Lupus Foundation (and others, I'm sure) will even come and pick it up (though, it's a bit of a white elehpant for them since the toner is so expensive).
Take it apart and make a sculpture from the parts.
Take it apart and see if it will blend.
Take the blended parts and stuff them into small balls of ground raw meat to feed to the neighbors dog that won't stay off your property.
Put it on freecycle.org.
I have a collection of 5-6 working printers in my garage.
Someday I'm going to build a sculpture from them, if my wife doesn't make me give them away so we can store some useless junk instead (tongue fully in cheek).
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316770</id>
	<title>False economy...</title>
	<author>BabaChazz</author>
	<datestamp>1259836740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As many others have pointed out, the new printer comes with "starter cartridges" which contain less ink; in the case of a donated Dell inkjet I recently reluctantly accepted for the school where I work part time, the starter cartridge contains 5ml, instead of 25ml of ink. So for your $81 you would have bought possibly five times as many pages as you bought with your new printer.</p><p>That said: you are, in fact, causing significant grief to the companies making these printers by discarding rather than reloading. The company has adopted the Gillette marketing model: give away the razor, overprice the blades. It is almost certain that the printer costs more than $50 to make, so if you toss the printer you are hitting them in the bottom line.</p><p>On the gripping hand, the ecological costs of discarding the printer and buying new are significant. How much petroleum did it take to make the plastic that you would be dumping in the landfill, and transporting it to you?</p><p>The only truly sound way to approach this, once you have one of these printers on your desk, is to buy a single round of replacement cartridges and a refill kit. (The starter cartridges may have something in them that prevents them from being filled above the starter levels. To get full life out of a refilled cartridge you may have to start with a proper cartridge.) This not only prevents the printer hitting the landfill, but removes you as a source of ink-cartridge revenue from the printer manufacturer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As many others have pointed out , the new printer comes with " starter cartridges " which contain less ink ; in the case of a donated Dell inkjet I recently reluctantly accepted for the school where I work part time , the starter cartridge contains 5ml , instead of 25ml of ink .
So for your $ 81 you would have bought possibly five times as many pages as you bought with your new printer.That said : you are , in fact , causing significant grief to the companies making these printers by discarding rather than reloading .
The company has adopted the Gillette marketing model : give away the razor , overprice the blades .
It is almost certain that the printer costs more than $ 50 to make , so if you toss the printer you are hitting them in the bottom line.On the gripping hand , the ecological costs of discarding the printer and buying new are significant .
How much petroleum did it take to make the plastic that you would be dumping in the landfill , and transporting it to you ? The only truly sound way to approach this , once you have one of these printers on your desk , is to buy a single round of replacement cartridges and a refill kit .
( The starter cartridges may have something in them that prevents them from being filled above the starter levels .
To get full life out of a refilled cartridge you may have to start with a proper cartridge .
) This not only prevents the printer hitting the landfill , but removes you as a source of ink-cartridge revenue from the printer manufacturer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As many others have pointed out, the new printer comes with "starter cartridges" which contain less ink; in the case of a donated Dell inkjet I recently reluctantly accepted for the school where I work part time, the starter cartridge contains 5ml, instead of 25ml of ink.
So for your $81 you would have bought possibly five times as many pages as you bought with your new printer.That said: you are, in fact, causing significant grief to the companies making these printers by discarding rather than reloading.
The company has adopted the Gillette marketing model: give away the razor, overprice the blades.
It is almost certain that the printer costs more than $50 to make, so if you toss the printer you are hitting them in the bottom line.On the gripping hand, the ecological costs of discarding the printer and buying new are significant.
How much petroleum did it take to make the plastic that you would be dumping in the landfill, and transporting it to you?The only truly sound way to approach this, once you have one of these printers on your desk, is to buy a single round of replacement cartridges and a refill kit.
(The starter cartridges may have something in them that prevents them from being filled above the starter levels.
To get full life out of a refilled cartridge you may have to start with a proper cartridge.
) This not only prevents the printer hitting the landfill, but removes you as a source of ink-cartridge revenue from the printer manufacturer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316660</id>
	<title>Hack it into something inkless</title>
	<author>Zerth</author>
	<datestamp>1259836380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Either a paper cutter(replace ink with knife), a plotter(ink with pencil), or just steal the motor/belt system as one half/third of a homemade CNC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Either a paper cutter ( replace ink with knife ) , a plotter ( ink with pencil ) , or just steal the motor/belt system as one half/third of a homemade CNC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Either a paper cutter(replace ink with knife), a plotter(ink with pencil), or just steal the motor/belt system as one half/third of a homemade CNC.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30324228</id>
	<title>Re:Prevent.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259944740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Who's game?"<br>I'm game!!! But my annual bath is next week so I won't be game much longer....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Who 's game ?
" I 'm game ! ! !
But my annual bath is next week so I wo n't be game much longer... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Who's game?
"I'm game!!!
But my annual bath is next week so I won't be game much longer....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316508</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318042</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259841300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fuck the costs of DRUGS, the cost of a screw to hold a rod in place in your skeleton costs 1200 bucks! A screw the size of a BB costs more than 4 current-gen PS3s!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fuck the costs of DRUGS , the cost of a screw to hold a rod in place in your skeleton costs 1200 bucks !
A screw the size of a BB costs more than 4 current-gen PS3s !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fuck the costs of DRUGS, the cost of a screw to hold a rod in place in your skeleton costs 1200 bucks!
A screw the size of a BB costs more than 4 current-gen PS3s!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316872</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316584</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>iron-kurton</author>
	<datestamp>1259836200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is also no way that printer hardware can be so cheap -- it's called subsidized hardware. I would also urge you to look up racketeering: a racket is a way of (illegally) making money by selling a solution to a problem that the business itself created; however, the problem here is low ink, and the businesses don't have a way of forcing you to use up their ink.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is also no way that printer hardware can be so cheap -- it 's called subsidized hardware .
I would also urge you to look up racketeering : a racket is a way of ( illegally ) making money by selling a solution to a problem that the business itself created ; however , the problem here is low ink , and the businesses do n't have a way of forcing you to use up their ink .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is also no way that printer hardware can be so cheap -- it's called subsidized hardware.
I would also urge you to look up racketeering: a racket is a way of (illegally) making money by selling a solution to a problem that the business itself created; however, the problem here is low ink, and the businesses don't have a way of forcing you to use up their ink.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316706</id>
	<title>Simple: buy the ink</title>
	<author>MBGMorden</author>
	<datestamp>1259836500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>New printers these days come with partial ink cartridges.  Budget laser printers for example usually come with a cartridges that is only 1/3 the amount of ink as you get in a refill.</p><p>As such, if you keep buying replacement printers than you're going to be doing that VERY often.  Instead, buy a decent printer - regardless of cost, and then when the trial period ink gets used up buy some more so you start working on the real life-cycle of the printer.</p><p>Or to put it pretty simply: a $75 toner cartridge for my printer that lasts me for 4500 more pages is a lot better than buying another printer for $50 and getting 1000 pages out of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>New printers these days come with partial ink cartridges .
Budget laser printers for example usually come with a cartridges that is only 1/3 the amount of ink as you get in a refill.As such , if you keep buying replacement printers than you 're going to be doing that VERY often .
Instead , buy a decent printer - regardless of cost , and then when the trial period ink gets used up buy some more so you start working on the real life-cycle of the printer.Or to put it pretty simply : a $ 75 toner cartridge for my printer that lasts me for 4500 more pages is a lot better than buying another printer for $ 50 and getting 1000 pages out of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>New printers these days come with partial ink cartridges.
Budget laser printers for example usually come with a cartridges that is only 1/3 the amount of ink as you get in a refill.As such, if you keep buying replacement printers than you're going to be doing that VERY often.
Instead, buy a decent printer - regardless of cost, and then when the trial period ink gets used up buy some more so you start working on the real life-cycle of the printer.Or to put it pretty simply: a $75 toner cartridge for my printer that lasts me for 4500 more pages is a lot better than buying another printer for $50 and getting 1000 pages out of it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30332294</id>
	<title>Sucker</title>
	<author>transami</author>
	<datestamp>1259943960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about you stop being a sucker. Try buying a real printer (I recommend a Xerox Phaser Solid-Ink printer). Yes you spend a large chuck of change up front, but guess what? You will SAVE money on ink over the life time of the printer, and best of all the printer actually works and works well. Oh, you might think that cheap inkjet printer works fine, but believe me by comparison it's a piece of junk.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about you stop being a sucker .
Try buying a real printer ( I recommend a Xerox Phaser Solid-Ink printer ) .
Yes you spend a large chuck of change up front , but guess what ?
You will SAVE money on ink over the life time of the printer , and best of all the printer actually works and works well .
Oh , you might think that cheap inkjet printer works fine , but believe me by comparison it 's a piece of junk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about you stop being a sucker.
Try buying a real printer (I recommend a Xerox Phaser Solid-Ink printer).
Yes you spend a large chuck of change up front, but guess what?
You will SAVE money on ink over the life time of the printer, and best of all the printer actually works and works well.
Oh, you might think that cheap inkjet printer works fine, but believe me by comparison it's a piece of junk.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316454</id>
	<title>Recycle.</title>
	<author>Rickz0rz</author>
	<datestamp>1259835900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been using cartridge stores like Cartridge World.  Overall, the ink there is much cheaper.

However, the best thing you can do is call up your local recycling center and see if they take e-waste.  More so, <a href="http://earth911.com/electronics/proper-disposal-and-recycling-of-e-waste/" title="earth911.com" rel="nofollow">a simple Google reveals</a> [earth911.com] that many manufacturers will take back their own product for recycling.  Even if they're not listed, it wouldn't hurt to contact the manufacturer to see what programs they have in place.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using cartridge stores like Cartridge World .
Overall , the ink there is much cheaper .
However , the best thing you can do is call up your local recycling center and see if they take e-waste .
More so , a simple Google reveals [ earth911.com ] that many manufacturers will take back their own product for recycling .
Even if they 're not listed , it would n't hurt to contact the manufacturer to see what programs they have in place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using cartridge stores like Cartridge World.
Overall, the ink there is much cheaper.
However, the best thing you can do is call up your local recycling center and see if they take e-waste.
More so, a simple Google reveals [earth911.com] that many manufacturers will take back their own product for recycling.
Even if they're not listed, it wouldn't hurt to contact the manufacturer to see what programs they have in place.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317164</id>
	<title>For a cheap printer, use cheap ink.</title>
	<author>embo</author>
	<datestamp>1259837940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.supermediastore.com/product/u/epson-r260-r380-rx580-ink-combo-t078120-t078220-t078320-t078420-rem-4pk?max=15&amp;search=Epson+RX595&amp;offset=0" title="supermediastore.com">http://www.supermediastore.com/product/u/epson-r260-r380-rx580-ink-combo-t078120-t078220-t078320-t078420-rem-4pk?max=15&amp;search=Epson+RX595&amp;offset=0</a> [supermediastore.com]

You can find much better deals on ink.  4 pack remanufactured for $23.99.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.supermediastore.com/product/u/epson-r260-r380-rx580-ink-combo-t078120-t078220-t078320-t078420-rem-4pk ? max = 15&amp;search = Epson + RX595&amp;offset = 0 [ supermediastore.com ] You can find much better deals on ink .
4 pack remanufactured for $ 23.99 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.supermediastore.com/product/u/epson-r260-r380-rx580-ink-combo-t078120-t078220-t078320-t078420-rem-4pk?max=15&amp;search=Epson+RX595&amp;offset=0 [supermediastore.com]

You can find much better deals on ink.
4 pack remanufactured for $23.99.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317034</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259837520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Personally, while I understand the business doctrine of "whatever the market will bear</p></div><p>Ah, so you're the moronic twit who still thinks that's a good idea. It's called an artificial monopoly, asshat. HP/Epson/Et Al create printers that only take their carts and then charge you out the ying-yang for the water-and-dye. Only a complete moron would think this is an open market.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally , while I understand the business doctrine of " whatever the market will bearAh , so you 're the moronic twit who still thinks that 's a good idea .
It 's called an artificial monopoly , asshat .
HP/Epson/Et Al create printers that only take their carts and then charge you out the ying-yang for the water-and-dye .
Only a complete moron would think this is an open market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally, while I understand the business doctrine of "whatever the market will bearAh, so you're the moronic twit who still thinks that's a good idea.
It's called an artificial monopoly, asshat.
HP/Epson/Et Al create printers that only take their carts and then charge you out the ying-yang for the water-and-dye.
Only a complete moron would think this is an open market.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30323290</id>
	<title>What do you do when cameras are cheaper than film?</title>
	<author>Drethon</author>
	<datestamp>1259939700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seems to me cameras went digital, I wonder if the next digital revolution will indeed be e-readers (not the current somewhat bulky ones but ones that actually virtually replace paper)...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems to me cameras went digital , I wonder if the next digital revolution will indeed be e-readers ( not the current somewhat bulky ones but ones that actually virtually replace paper ) .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems to me cameras went digital, I wonder if the next digital revolution will indeed be e-readers (not the current somewhat bulky ones but ones that actually virtually replace paper)...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316830</id>
	<title>question</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1259836920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know even at the retail places you can get cartridges for certain no-longer-manufactured printers for ridiculously low prices.  Anyone know what printer made today has the lowest cost for replacement ink?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know even at the retail places you can get cartridges for certain no-longer-manufactured printers for ridiculously low prices .
Anyone know what printer made today has the lowest cost for replacement ink ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know even at the retail places you can get cartridges for certain no-longer-manufactured printers for ridiculously low prices.
Anyone know what printer made today has the lowest cost for replacement ink?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316408</id>
	<title>buy compatible cartridges</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259835780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>/thread</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>/thread</tokentext>
<sentencetext>/thread</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316604</id>
	<title>On a related note</title>
	<author>Minwee</author>
	<datestamp>1259836260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you find yourself buying a whole new printer \_with\_ink\_ for less than the cost of replacement ink, there's probably a reason for it.
</p><p>The ink cartridges loaded in new printers are often a little bit less than full.  Don't be surprised if they turn out to have less than half the ink of the full-priced replacements.  There's a weasel term for this, something like "Value Express Promotional Economy Monkey-Spanking Sized Ink Cartridges", but the point is that you're often being sold a nearly empty printer at a cut price just to get you to buy more ink later.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you find yourself buying a whole new printer \ _with \ _ink \ _ for less than the cost of replacement ink , there 's probably a reason for it .
The ink cartridges loaded in new printers are often a little bit less than full .
Do n't be surprised if they turn out to have less than half the ink of the full-priced replacements .
There 's a weasel term for this , something like " Value Express Promotional Economy Monkey-Spanking Sized Ink Cartridges " , but the point is that you 're often being sold a nearly empty printer at a cut price just to get you to buy more ink later .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you find yourself buying a whole new printer \_with\_ink\_ for less than the cost of replacement ink, there's probably a reason for it.
The ink cartridges loaded in new printers are often a little bit less than full.
Don't be surprised if they turn out to have less than half the ink of the full-priced replacements.
There's a weasel term for this, something like "Value Express Promotional Economy Monkey-Spanking Sized Ink Cartridges", but the point is that you're often being sold a nearly empty printer at a cut price just to get you to buy more ink later.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319736</id>
	<title>Look before...</title>
	<author>ThurstonMoore</author>
	<datestamp>1259851200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The best thing to do is look at the price of ink/toner before buying the printer.  This was the first thing we did when me and the old lady were looking to buy a new printer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The best thing to do is look at the price of ink/toner before buying the printer .
This was the first thing we did when me and the old lady were looking to buy a new printer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The best thing to do is look at the price of ink/toner before buying the printer.
This was the first thing we did when me and the old lady were looking to buy a new printer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317824</id>
	<title>Sounds familiar</title>
	<author>kheldan</author>
	<datestamp>1259840340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've still got a Lexmark inkjet printer. It cost me all of $50 when it was new. It's cheap, but it did what I needed it to do, and frankly it <i>was</i> cheaper than buying replacement cartridges for it's predecessor, whatever printer that was (been so long I've forgotten). I had the same exact thoughts that the OP had about it.<br>The Lexmark was the last inkjet printer I ever bought. Never again. Printer ink is a HUGE ripoff. I bought a Brother laser printer. Does duplexing, even had an ethernet interface built right into it. I print maybe a handful of pages a month, so the toner cartridge that came with it will probably last for 2 years, and unlike ink, it won't (shouldn't?) dry out and become unusuable. Sure, cartridges for it cost about $90, but that refill (when I actually need it) will likely last <i>several</i> years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've still got a Lexmark inkjet printer .
It cost me all of $ 50 when it was new .
It 's cheap , but it did what I needed it to do , and frankly it was cheaper than buying replacement cartridges for it 's predecessor , whatever printer that was ( been so long I 've forgotten ) .
I had the same exact thoughts that the OP had about it.The Lexmark was the last inkjet printer I ever bought .
Never again .
Printer ink is a HUGE ripoff .
I bought a Brother laser printer .
Does duplexing , even had an ethernet interface built right into it .
I print maybe a handful of pages a month , so the toner cartridge that came with it will probably last for 2 years , and unlike ink , it wo n't ( should n't ?
) dry out and become unusuable .
Sure , cartridges for it cost about $ 90 , but that refill ( when I actually need it ) will likely last several years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've still got a Lexmark inkjet printer.
It cost me all of $50 when it was new.
It's cheap, but it did what I needed it to do, and frankly it was cheaper than buying replacement cartridges for it's predecessor, whatever printer that was (been so long I've forgotten).
I had the same exact thoughts that the OP had about it.The Lexmark was the last inkjet printer I ever bought.
Never again.
Printer ink is a HUGE ripoff.
I bought a Brother laser printer.
Does duplexing, even had an ethernet interface built right into it.
I print maybe a handful of pages a month, so the toner cartridge that came with it will probably last for 2 years, and unlike ink, it won't (shouldn't?
) dry out and become unusuable.
Sure, cartridges for it cost about $90, but that refill (when I actually need it) will likely last several years.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30331888</id>
	<title>Re:Support Kodak's printers send the others a mess</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259938380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it works on the Mac, and not on Linux, that'd be surprising... Considering Apple makes CUPS, the Linux/Unix printing software.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it works on the Mac , and not on Linux , that 'd be surprising... Considering Apple makes CUPS , the Linux/Unix printing software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it works on the Mac, and not on Linux, that'd be surprising... Considering Apple makes CUPS, the Linux/Unix printing software.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317104</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319002</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space re-enactment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259846160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5V8sKjMUF0</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = Z5V8sKjMUF0</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5V8sKjMUF0</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316458</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318748</id>
	<title>Re:I Third This</title>
	<author>fast turtle</author>
	<datestamp>1259844780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Higher Upfront Costs? Not the case any longer. You can now buy a Color Laser MFC for $120. This gets you a color copier, scanner, fax and printer for that price with a cost per page of $0.05 even on the starter cartridges good for only 1.5/3k pages. The nice thing about toner is it doesn't dry out like Ink does, plus even with the slightly higher price per cart, you get antyhing between 2-5x the amount of printing before needing replacements. I bought my color laser 3 yrs ago for $300 on sale and finally had to buy new toner for the thing. That's 3 yrs for the starter cartridges and the refills I bought, got damn lucky and picked up a pair of Quad Packs for $150 ea. Means the total cost for this printer has only now hit $600 and I expect the thing to be usable for at least 20 years, brining the cost per year down to $30. Can't buy any ink jets for that price today and get a 20 year lifespan plus Linux compatibility. Because of this, I see no reason to even bother looking at new printers. I've got one that meets my needs and has a useful lifespan without costing "Arm and Leg".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Higher Upfront Costs ?
Not the case any longer .
You can now buy a Color Laser MFC for $ 120 .
This gets you a color copier , scanner , fax and printer for that price with a cost per page of $ 0.05 even on the starter cartridges good for only 1.5/3k pages .
The nice thing about toner is it does n't dry out like Ink does , plus even with the slightly higher price per cart , you get antyhing between 2-5x the amount of printing before needing replacements .
I bought my color laser 3 yrs ago for $ 300 on sale and finally had to buy new toner for the thing .
That 's 3 yrs for the starter cartridges and the refills I bought , got damn lucky and picked up a pair of Quad Packs for $ 150 ea .
Means the total cost for this printer has only now hit $ 600 and I expect the thing to be usable for at least 20 years , brining the cost per year down to $ 30 .
Ca n't buy any ink jets for that price today and get a 20 year lifespan plus Linux compatibility .
Because of this , I see no reason to even bother looking at new printers .
I 've got one that meets my needs and has a useful lifespan without costing " Arm and Leg " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Higher Upfront Costs?
Not the case any longer.
You can now buy a Color Laser MFC for $120.
This gets you a color copier, scanner, fax and printer for that price with a cost per page of $0.05 even on the starter cartridges good for only 1.5/3k pages.
The nice thing about toner is it doesn't dry out like Ink does, plus even with the slightly higher price per cart, you get antyhing between 2-5x the amount of printing before needing replacements.
I bought my color laser 3 yrs ago for $300 on sale and finally had to buy new toner for the thing.
That's 3 yrs for the starter cartridges and the refills I bought, got damn lucky and picked up a pair of Quad Packs for $150 ea.
Means the total cost for this printer has only now hit $600 and I expect the thing to be usable for at least 20 years, brining the cost per year down to $30.
Can't buy any ink jets for that price today and get a 20 year lifespan plus Linux compatibility.
Because of this, I see no reason to even bother looking at new printers.
I've got one that meets my needs and has a useful lifespan without costing "Arm and Leg".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316884</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317304</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space</title>
	<author>justfred</author>
	<datestamp>1259838420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"PC LOAD LETTER"???  What the f does that mean??</p><p>Oh, there it is: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC\_LOAD\_LETTER" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC\_LOAD\_LETTER</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" PC LOAD LETTER " ? ? ?
What the f does that mean ?
? Oh , there it is : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC \ _LOAD \ _LETTER [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"PC LOAD LETTER"???
What the f does that mean?
?Oh, there it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC\_LOAD\_LETTER [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316418</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316544</id>
	<title>laser ftw</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But now I have a useless piece of e-waste that I can't even give away. What can you do with a printer like that?</p></div><p>Don't get one....craigslist a cheap laser printer instead.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But now I have a useless piece of e-waste that I ca n't even give away .
What can you do with a printer like that ? Do n't get one....craigslist a cheap laser printer instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But now I have a useless piece of e-waste that I can't even give away.
What can you do with a printer like that?Don't get one....craigslist a cheap laser printer instead.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317446</id>
	<title>damn it feels good to be a gangsta</title>
	<author>TakeoffZebra</author>
	<datestamp>1259838900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>uh, Office Space anyone?</htmltext>
<tokenext>uh , Office Space anyone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>uh, Office Space anyone?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317106</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>MobyDisk</author>
	<datestamp>1259837760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most laser printers in this person's price range do not support Postscript.  Even those that claim to don't support it well enough that you can rely on it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most laser printers in this person 's price range do not support Postscript .
Even those that claim to do n't support it well enough that you can rely on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most laser printers in this person's price range do not support Postscript.
Even those that claim to don't support it well enough that you can rely on it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316414</id>
	<title>KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>sheph</author>
	<datestamp>1259835780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You could take it to the firing range.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You could take it to the firing range .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could take it to the firing range.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316610</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then don't buy ink. Buy toner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then do n't buy ink .
Buy toner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then don't buy ink.
Buy toner.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317610</id>
	<title>Compare to the gas tax</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1259839500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If I ran my country (and I really think I should) it would be illegal to sell a device at a loss in order to gouge on the consumables.</p></div><p>Governments provide roads for free and gouge on the motor fuels. Are you also against the gasoline tax?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I ran my country ( and I really think I should ) it would be illegal to sell a device at a loss in order to gouge on the consumables.Governments provide roads for free and gouge on the motor fuels .
Are you also against the gasoline tax ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I ran my country (and I really think I should) it would be illegal to sell a device at a loss in order to gouge on the consumables.Governments provide roads for free and gouge on the motor fuels.
Are you also against the gasoline tax?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316526</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30323992</id>
	<title>Use Economic Forces</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259943600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If, along with sales tax, there were a consistent return deposit imposed by the government.<br>This return deposit would reflect the cost of proper disposal.<br>In many states this has been done with soft drink containers so the establishment of infrastructure is demonstrated.</p><p>At a personal level, ask yourself, what the disposal cost (per unit time) is for the product.<br>(and yes I am trolling<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If , along with sales tax , there were a consistent return deposit imposed by the government.This return deposit would reflect the cost of proper disposal.In many states this has been done with soft drink containers so the establishment of infrastructure is demonstrated.At a personal level , ask yourself , what the disposal cost ( per unit time ) is for the product .
( and yes I am trolling : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If, along with sales tax, there were a consistent return deposit imposed by the government.This return deposit would reflect the cost of proper disposal.In many states this has been done with soft drink containers so the establishment of infrastructure is demonstrated.At a personal level, ask yourself, what the disposal cost (per unit time) is for the product.
(and yes I am trolling :-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319582</id>
	<title>Get Rid Of It.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259849940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>I hate to just throw it away.</b>
<p>
.
</p><p>
Why? It's costing you money. What do you save by keeping it? Maybe my attitude comes from listening to too much Dave Ramsey lately (g), but sometimes you just have to cut and run.
</p><p>
As others here have suggested:
</p><p>
1 - Donate it.
</p><p>
2 - Throw it away.
</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and I add this one:
</p><p>
3 - give it to someone you don't like for Christmas.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate to just throw it away .
. Why ?
It 's costing you money .
What do you save by keeping it ?
Maybe my attitude comes from listening to too much Dave Ramsey lately ( g ) , but sometimes you just have to cut and run .
As others here have suggested : 1 - Donate it .
2 - Throw it away .
... and I add this one : 3 - give it to someone you do n't like for Christmas .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate to just throw it away.
.

Why?
It's costing you money.
What do you save by keeping it?
Maybe my attitude comes from listening to too much Dave Ramsey lately (g), but sometimes you just have to cut and run.
As others here have suggested:

1 - Donate it.
2 - Throw it away.
... and I add this one:

3 - give it to someone you don't like for Christmas.
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317584</id>
	<title>Re:The old fashioned way</title>
	<author>bcmm</author>
	<datestamp>1259839380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://gizmodo.com/212444/hp-ink-costs-more-than-human-blood-booze" title="gizmodo.com">According to Gizmodo</a> [gizmodo.com], this is actually a cost-effective way to reload an HP printer, even if you don't use your own blood.</htmltext>
<tokenext>According to Gizmodo [ gizmodo.com ] , this is actually a cost-effective way to reload an HP printer , even if you do n't use your own blood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to Gizmodo [gizmodo.com], this is actually a cost-effective way to reload an HP printer, even if you don't use your own blood.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317454</id>
	<title>Re:The old fashioned way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259838960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I refill my 4-color printer with Blood, Sweat and Tears (4th bodily fluid "redacted" as this is a family site).</p></div><p>Cyan: Tears<br>Yellow: Sweat<br>Magenta: Blood<br>Black:  ???</p><p>Think you better see a doctor. Or a really good technician.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I refill my 4-color printer with Blood , Sweat and Tears ( 4th bodily fluid " redacted " as this is a family site ) .Cyan : TearsYellow : SweatMagenta : BloodBlack : ? ?
? Think you better see a doctor .
Or a really good technician .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I refill my 4-color printer with Blood, Sweat and Tears (4th bodily fluid "redacted" as this is a family site).Cyan: TearsYellow: SweatMagenta: BloodBlack:  ??
?Think you better see a doctor.
Or a really good technician.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319452</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259848980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People should stop whining. Look at the published specs from the manufacturer. There is an inverse relationship to the initial cost of the printer. Pay more for the printer up front and you get bigger tanks. Cost per page comes down from $1 to $.05, more like  laser.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People should stop whining .
Look at the published specs from the manufacturer .
There is an inverse relationship to the initial cost of the printer .
Pay more for the printer up front and you get bigger tanks .
Cost per page comes down from $ 1 to $ .05 , more like laser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People should stop whining.
Look at the published specs from the manufacturer.
There is an inverse relationship to the initial cost of the printer.
Pay more for the printer up front and you get bigger tanks.
Cost per page comes down from $1 to $.05, more like  laser.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319508</id>
	<title>Inkjet refill kits</title>
	<author>lazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1259849400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An old printer you don't want is a good way to find out if it's really true that aftermarket refill kits will damage a printer.</p><p>Try it, what you learn will save you a bundle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An old printer you do n't want is a good way to find out if it 's really true that aftermarket refill kits will damage a printer.Try it , what you learn will save you a bundle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An old printer you don't want is a good way to find out if it's really true that aftermarket refill kits will damage a printer.Try it, what you learn will save you a bundle.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30377188</id>
	<title>HP 1200</title>
	<author>ATLHivemind</author>
	<datestamp>1259598000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an old HP LaserJet 1200 that I use for everyday printing.<br>Cost me nothing (office castoff, IIRC) and i snagged a new cartridge for all of $30 (my dad had spares, too). I have about 5000 pages worth of print capacity for $30. My only regret is that is isn't networkable natively (haven't gotten a print server for it yet).</p><p>I'm eyeing a Color Laser, but there's no hurry.</p><p>I gave up on Ink long, long ago.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an old HP LaserJet 1200 that I use for everyday printing.Cost me nothing ( office castoff , IIRC ) and i snagged a new cartridge for all of $ 30 ( my dad had spares , too ) .
I have about 5000 pages worth of print capacity for $ 30 .
My only regret is that is is n't networkable natively ( have n't gotten a print server for it yet ) .I 'm eyeing a Color Laser , but there 's no hurry.I gave up on Ink long , long ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an old HP LaserJet 1200 that I use for everyday printing.Cost me nothing (office castoff, IIRC) and i snagged a new cartridge for all of $30 (my dad had spares, too).
I have about 5000 pages worth of print capacity for $30.
My only regret is that is isn't networkable natively (haven't gotten a print server for it yet).I'm eyeing a Color Laser, but there's no hurry.I gave up on Ink long, long ago.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30323786</id>
	<title>Re:dyesub? Seriously?</title>
	<author>Jumperalex</author>
	<datestamp>1259942580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are confused.  Dye-Sub  Wax.  Do a little searching before you show your ignorance.</p><p>Oh yeah and someone mod parent down since it isn't informative, it is incorrect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are confused .
Dye-Sub Wax .
Do a little searching before you show your ignorance.Oh yeah and someone mod parent down since it is n't informative , it is incorrect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are confused.
Dye-Sub  Wax.
Do a little searching before you show your ignorance.Oh yeah and someone mod parent down since it isn't informative, it is incorrect.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320528</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316994</id>
	<title>Photo Printers == Expensive Waste</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259837460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't buy so called photo printers anyway.  Especially the ones that use like 6 inks.  You can have photos printed through services and Walmart for far cheaper than you can ever do at home and get a higher quality result.  The 6 ink printers are just a gimic to now have 3 more carts you have to buy.</p><p>Even worse, now some of the HP 6 color photo printers require you to have no empty carts or they won't print, even if you're just printing black and white AND they put expiration dates on the carts that the printer "respects" and will refuse to use, again keeping you from printing stuff not even using the color in question.</p><p>If you need to print a little, buy a small black and white inkjet and just get over having color printouts and you'll save yourself a lot of money.  If you need to print alot, then you should be getting a laser printer (whether color or not) anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't buy so called photo printers anyway .
Especially the ones that use like 6 inks .
You can have photos printed through services and Walmart for far cheaper than you can ever do at home and get a higher quality result .
The 6 ink printers are just a gimic to now have 3 more carts you have to buy.Even worse , now some of the HP 6 color photo printers require you to have no empty carts or they wo n't print , even if you 're just printing black and white AND they put expiration dates on the carts that the printer " respects " and will refuse to use , again keeping you from printing stuff not even using the color in question.If you need to print a little , buy a small black and white inkjet and just get over having color printouts and you 'll save yourself a lot of money .
If you need to print alot , then you should be getting a laser printer ( whether color or not ) anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't buy so called photo printers anyway.
Especially the ones that use like 6 inks.
You can have photos printed through services and Walmart for far cheaper than you can ever do at home and get a higher quality result.
The 6 ink printers are just a gimic to now have 3 more carts you have to buy.Even worse, now some of the HP 6 color photo printers require you to have no empty carts or they won't print, even if you're just printing black and white AND they put expiration dates on the carts that the printer "respects" and will refuse to use, again keeping you from printing stuff not even using the color in question.If you need to print a little, buy a small black and white inkjet and just get over having color printouts and you'll save yourself a lot of money.
If you need to print alot, then you should be getting a laser printer (whether color or not) anyway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320884</id>
	<title>Re:Support Kodak's printers send the others a mess</title>
	<author>mister\_playboy</author>
	<datestamp>1259861940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Be aware that they don't offer any Linux drivers!  You'll need to run XP, Vista, or 7 in a VM in order to be able to use the printer if you are a Linux user.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Be aware that they do n't offer any Linux drivers !
You 'll need to run XP , Vista , or 7 in a VM in order to be able to use the printer if you are a Linux user .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Be aware that they don't offer any Linux drivers!
You'll need to run XP, Vista, or 7 in a VM in order to be able to use the printer if you are a Linux user.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316820</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321446</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259869020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thus the monikers of Razor and Blade, from Hackers. Tongue in cheek, and all that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thus the monikers of Razor and Blade , from Hackers .
Tongue in cheek , and all that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thus the monikers of Razor and Blade, from Hackers.
Tongue in cheek, and all that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317602</id>
	<title>Get the Laser</title>
	<author>tthomas48</author>
	<datestamp>1259839440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, get a laser and a wireless printserver. Everyone in your house can print using the same printer.</p><p>Then use your local drug store's online tools for printing pictures, and your local office supply store's online tools to print color documents. The only way to be economical with an inkjet is to buy a new one anytime the cartridge runs out of ink, and the only way to be environmental is to pay a couple of bucks a page.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , get a laser and a wireless printserver .
Everyone in your house can print using the same printer.Then use your local drug store 's online tools for printing pictures , and your local office supply store 's online tools to print color documents .
The only way to be economical with an inkjet is to buy a new one anytime the cartridge runs out of ink , and the only way to be environmental is to pay a couple of bucks a page .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, get a laser and a wireless printserver.
Everyone in your house can print using the same printer.Then use your local drug store's online tools for printing pictures, and your local office supply store's online tools to print color documents.
The only way to be economical with an inkjet is to buy a new one anytime the cartridge runs out of ink, and the only way to be environmental is to pay a couple of bucks a page.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317488</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>jimbobborg</author>
	<datestamp>1259839020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Use buck shot next time.  No bounce backs from the printer that way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Use buck shot next time .
No bounce backs from the printer that way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use buck shot next time.
No bounce backs from the printer that way.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319092</id>
	<title>TechShop FTW</title>
	<author>SpeedBump0619</author>
	<datestamp>1259846580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In my area there's a place called <a href="http://www.techshopdurham.com/" title="techshopdurham.com">TechShop</a> [techshopdurham.com] which takes pretty much any old electronics that have re-usable components.  They are then free to use for the members who want to make something (robots, clocks, plotters, mobiles, whatever).  See if you've got one where you live.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In my area there 's a place called TechShop [ techshopdurham.com ] which takes pretty much any old electronics that have re-usable components .
They are then free to use for the members who want to make something ( robots , clocks , plotters , mobiles , whatever ) .
See if you 've got one where you live .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In my area there's a place called TechShop [techshopdurham.com] which takes pretty much any old electronics that have re-usable components.
They are then free to use for the members who want to make something (robots, clocks, plotters, mobiles, whatever).
See if you've got one where you live.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30324022</id>
	<title>Printer Ink = 10x Cost of Wine</title>
	<author>TC Steve</author>
	<datestamp>1259943840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A while ago I was averaging the cost of ink per mL and it worked out to about 10 cents per mL.  Considering an average 1 Litre bottle of wine is about $10, that makes ink 10 times the price of wine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A while ago I was averaging the cost of ink per mL and it worked out to about 10 cents per mL .
Considering an average 1 Litre bottle of wine is about $ 10 , that makes ink 10 times the price of wine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A while ago I was averaging the cost of ink per mL and it worked out to about 10 cents per mL.
Considering an average 1 Litre bottle of wine is about $10, that makes ink 10 times the price of wine.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320548</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space re-enactment</title>
	<author>bXTr</author>
	<datestamp>1259858160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was thinking more along the lines of a Wood Chipper. Turn it on, toss it in and watch the little pieces fly through the air.</p><p>Personally, I haven't had to print anything in months, so my printer's almost never powered up. Fortunately, it's a laser printer. If it was an inkjet, I'd get maybe a couple of uses out of it before letting it idle and the cartridges dry up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was thinking more along the lines of a Wood Chipper .
Turn it on , toss it in and watch the little pieces fly through the air.Personally , I have n't had to print anything in months , so my printer 's almost never powered up .
Fortunately , it 's a laser printer .
If it was an inkjet , I 'd get maybe a couple of uses out of it before letting it idle and the cartridges dry up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was thinking more along the lines of a Wood Chipper.
Turn it on, toss it in and watch the little pieces fly through the air.Personally, I haven't had to print anything in months, so my printer's almost never powered up.
Fortunately, it's a laser printer.
If it was an inkjet, I'd get maybe a couple of uses out of it before letting it idle and the cartridges dry up.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316458</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30327286</id>
	<title>Re:Stop printing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259957340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, the most common reason to print something is to have an easier read. Ebooks might be the solution there. Of course the problem is that you would need one with a letter-size (or A4-size) display if it has to replace printouts. And then there's the problem that you can't fold an ebook as you can do with paper.<br>In short, you'd need an ebook which is paper-sized when reading, but folded paper-sized when transporting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , the most common reason to print something is to have an easier read .
Ebooks might be the solution there .
Of course the problem is that you would need one with a letter-size ( or A4-size ) display if it has to replace printouts .
And then there 's the problem that you ca n't fold an ebook as you can do with paper.In short , you 'd need an ebook which is paper-sized when reading , but folded paper-sized when transporting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, the most common reason to print something is to have an easier read.
Ebooks might be the solution there.
Of course the problem is that you would need one with a letter-size (or A4-size) display if it has to replace printouts.
And then there's the problem that you can't fold an ebook as you can do with paper.In short, you'd need an ebook which is paper-sized when reading, but folded paper-sized when transporting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316898</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320314</id>
	<title>Re:Get yourself a color laser</title>
	<author>Macrat</author>
	<datestamp>1259856180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The day I switched was when I needed to replace a color in my inkjet, and the new one needed a head clean.</p></div><p>I've never needed to clean the head on my 3 year old Epson R220.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The day I switched was when I needed to replace a color in my inkjet , and the new one needed a head clean.I 've never needed to clean the head on my 3 year old Epson R220 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The day I switched was when I needed to replace a color in my inkjet, and the new one needed a head clean.I've never needed to clean the head on my 3 year old Epson R220.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318048</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318158</id>
	<title>Re:Convert it to continuous feed inktanks</title>
	<author>SharpFang</author>
	<datestamp>1259841840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unless the cartridges use a timer or page count kill switch.</p><p>The amount of ink remaining in the cartridge has long ceased to mean how much more you can print. Sometimes you must purchase new cartridges to use the scanner part as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless the cartridges use a timer or page count kill switch.The amount of ink remaining in the cartridge has long ceased to mean how much more you can print .
Sometimes you must purchase new cartridges to use the scanner part as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless the cartridges use a timer or page count kill switch.The amount of ink remaining in the cartridge has long ceased to mean how much more you can print.
Sometimes you must purchase new cartridges to use the scanner part as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316522</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30324378</id>
	<title>Re:Don't buy inkjets period</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259945520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I switched to laser printing ten years ago with a second-hand IBM 4019 laser printer from 1989. I'm still using it! It came with two big half-full (10000 page) ink cartridges and one sealed brand new one. Cost about $20 at the time. I'm on my second half-full cartridge at the moment with the sealed one still waiting in a box.</p><p>Best investment ever (and I do love the smell of ozone as well as the jet aircraft whine it makes). Oh, and it's been supported in every version of Windows -- including 7.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I switched to laser printing ten years ago with a second-hand IBM 4019 laser printer from 1989 .
I 'm still using it !
It came with two big half-full ( 10000 page ) ink cartridges and one sealed brand new one .
Cost about $ 20 at the time .
I 'm on my second half-full cartridge at the moment with the sealed one still waiting in a box.Best investment ever ( and I do love the smell of ozone as well as the jet aircraft whine it makes ) .
Oh , and it 's been supported in every version of Windows -- including 7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I switched to laser printing ten years ago with a second-hand IBM 4019 laser printer from 1989.
I'm still using it!
It came with two big half-full (10000 page) ink cartridges and one sealed brand new one.
Cost about $20 at the time.
I'm on my second half-full cartridge at the moment with the sealed one still waiting in a box.Best investment ever (and I do love the smell of ozone as well as the jet aircraft whine it makes).
Oh, and it's been supported in every version of Windows -- including 7.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318298</id>
	<title>Some ideas...</title>
	<author>John Pfeiffer</author>
	<datestamp>1259842440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First of all, buying ink cartridges is a waste of time and money.  I own an Epson R1800, it's an entry-level wide format printer. (13x19 sheet or 13x44 roll medium max) A set of ink cartridges costs over a hundred dollars and when I'm making a lot of prints, it lasts about a month if I'm lucky.  I finally said to hell with that, and bought a Continuous Flow System for it.  Which was $300 for the system and 4oz bottles of all the ink. (iirc, the cartridges hold 0.4ozs of ink)  Four ounces of ink lasts over a year, and costs only about twenty bucks more than a set of cartridges.  And the stuff I get is for archival quality photo and art printing.  It's lightfast and waterproof just like the original ink.</p><p>One of the big problems with cartridges, besides costing too much, is that in most cases it won't let you 'use up' the cartridge, because any time it runs dry you risk messing up the heads.  So unless you buy one of those little things to zap the chip on the cartridge (Not a bad $15 investment if you're not ready for a CFS) you only end up using around half the ink in the cartridge.</p><p>As for what to do with that 'piece of e-waste'... What kind of geek are you?!  Rip that sucker open!! There's all sorts of cool shit in there! Nice motors (Steppers if you're lucky), optical encoders, all sorts of useful springs, gears, belts, and pulleys...not to mention a couple of fairly precise steel bars.  I saw something once about a guy making his own drafting pencils by lathing a bar from a printer.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First of all , buying ink cartridges is a waste of time and money .
I own an Epson R1800 , it 's an entry-level wide format printer .
( 13x19 sheet or 13x44 roll medium max ) A set of ink cartridges costs over a hundred dollars and when I 'm making a lot of prints , it lasts about a month if I 'm lucky .
I finally said to hell with that , and bought a Continuous Flow System for it .
Which was $ 300 for the system and 4oz bottles of all the ink .
( iirc , the cartridges hold 0.4ozs of ink ) Four ounces of ink lasts over a year , and costs only about twenty bucks more than a set of cartridges .
And the stuff I get is for archival quality photo and art printing .
It 's lightfast and waterproof just like the original ink.One of the big problems with cartridges , besides costing too much , is that in most cases it wo n't let you 'use up ' the cartridge , because any time it runs dry you risk messing up the heads .
So unless you buy one of those little things to zap the chip on the cartridge ( Not a bad $ 15 investment if you 're not ready for a CFS ) you only end up using around half the ink in the cartridge.As for what to do with that 'piece of e-waste'... What kind of geek are you ? !
Rip that sucker open ! !
There 's all sorts of cool shit in there !
Nice motors ( Steppers if you 're lucky ) , optical encoders , all sorts of useful springs , gears , belts , and pulleys...not to mention a couple of fairly precise steel bars .
I saw something once about a guy making his own drafting pencils by lathing a bar from a printer .
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First of all, buying ink cartridges is a waste of time and money.
I own an Epson R1800, it's an entry-level wide format printer.
(13x19 sheet or 13x44 roll medium max) A set of ink cartridges costs over a hundred dollars and when I'm making a lot of prints, it lasts about a month if I'm lucky.
I finally said to hell with that, and bought a Continuous Flow System for it.
Which was $300 for the system and 4oz bottles of all the ink.
(iirc, the cartridges hold 0.4ozs of ink)  Four ounces of ink lasts over a year, and costs only about twenty bucks more than a set of cartridges.
And the stuff I get is for archival quality photo and art printing.
It's lightfast and waterproof just like the original ink.One of the big problems with cartridges, besides costing too much, is that in most cases it won't let you 'use up' the cartridge, because any time it runs dry you risk messing up the heads.
So unless you buy one of those little things to zap the chip on the cartridge (Not a bad $15 investment if you're not ready for a CFS) you only end up using around half the ink in the cartridge.As for what to do with that 'piece of e-waste'... What kind of geek are you?!
Rip that sucker open!!
There's all sorts of cool shit in there!
Nice motors (Steppers if you're lucky), optical encoders, all sorts of useful springs, gears, belts, and pulleys...not to mention a couple of fairly precise steel bars.
I saw something once about a guy making his own drafting pencils by lathing a bar from a printer.
:P</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322062</id>
	<title>Re:laser ftw</title>
	<author>Cwix</author>
	<datestamp>1259922240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have to agree.. I just got a sweet IBM for 50 bucks, and it still had over 3/4 toner left.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to agree.. I just got a sweet IBM for 50 bucks , and it still had over 3/4 toner left .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to agree.. I just got a sweet IBM for 50 bucks, and it still had over 3/4 toner left.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316544</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30350500</id>
	<title>Re:Cheap Printer?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260179280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>sell it on ebay.<br>you will definitely find someone who will gladly pay 80$+ for it there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>sell it on ebay.you will definitely find someone who will gladly pay 80 $ + for it there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sell it on ebay.you will definitely find someone who will gladly pay 80$+ for it there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316416</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316504</id>
	<title>Refilll</title>
	<author>Psychotic\_Wrath</author>
	<datestamp>1259836020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can get a refill kit. Those are rather messy and kind of a pain. I would suggest taking the carts down to walgreens and have them refill them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can get a refill kit .
Those are rather messy and kind of a pain .
I would suggest taking the carts down to walgreens and have them refill them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can get a refill kit.
Those are rather messy and kind of a pain.
I would suggest taking the carts down to walgreens and have them refill them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317338</id>
	<title>The Ghetto</title>
	<author>fran6gagne</author>
	<datestamp>1259838540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Park your car in your local ghetto area, leave the printer on the top of your car, go buy a coffee, come back to your car, tadaaa! no more printer!
<br>
Now call your insurance company.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Park your car in your local ghetto area , leave the printer on the top of your car , go buy a coffee , come back to your car , tadaaa !
no more printer !
Now call your insurance company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Park your car in your local ghetto area, leave the printer on the top of your car, go buy a coffee, come back to your car, tadaaa!
no more printer!
Now call your insurance company.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317208</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>Captain Spam</author>
	<datestamp>1259838060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You... ARE aware that color laser printers have existed for... oh, well over a decade by this point?  Probably two?  I only recall color laser printers being advertised back in my high school days around 15 or so years ago, they probably existed not too long after the laser printer itself was invented in 1969...</p><p>Unless you're an AC troll.  Which... okay, I can, from at least a base standpoint, understand a troll who wants to troll against something that matters.  Picking sides, turf wars, primitive "you're different from me" attitude, etc.  Sure, sure.  But you're trolling against <i>laser printers</i>?  What?  Is the turf war between inkjets and lasers really THAT bad that it inspires trolls?  d00d, ur ink is 2 lamez!1!!1!  TONER CARTS 4TW</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You... ARE aware that color laser printers have existed for... oh , well over a decade by this point ?
Probably two ?
I only recall color laser printers being advertised back in my high school days around 15 or so years ago , they probably existed not too long after the laser printer itself was invented in 1969...Unless you 're an AC troll .
Which... okay , I can , from at least a base standpoint , understand a troll who wants to troll against something that matters .
Picking sides , turf wars , primitive " you 're different from me " attitude , etc .
Sure , sure .
But you 're trolling against laser printers ?
What ? Is the turf war between inkjets and lasers really THAT bad that it inspires trolls ?
d00d , ur ink is 2 lamez ! 1 ! ! 1 !
TONER CARTS 4TW</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You... ARE aware that color laser printers have existed for... oh, well over a decade by this point?
Probably two?
I only recall color laser printers being advertised back in my high school days around 15 or so years ago, they probably existed not too long after the laser printer itself was invented in 1969...Unless you're an AC troll.
Which... okay, I can, from at least a base standpoint, understand a troll who wants to troll against something that matters.
Picking sides, turf wars, primitive "you're different from me" attitude, etc.
Sure, sure.
But you're trolling against laser printers?
What?  Is the turf war between inkjets and lasers really THAT bad that it inspires trolls?
d00d, ur ink is 2 lamez!1!!1!
TONER CARTS 4TW</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318452</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1259843220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Including killswitches in cartridges to avoid refilling and hiding behind patents so nobody else can build said cartridges kinda fits that bill of "forcing you to use their ink".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Including killswitches in cartridges to avoid refilling and hiding behind patents so nobody else can build said cartridges kinda fits that bill of " forcing you to use their ink " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Including killswitches in cartridges to avoid refilling and hiding behind patents so nobody else can build said cartridges kinda fits that bill of "forcing you to use their ink".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316584</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316578</id>
	<title>Don't Just Throw It Away...</title>
	<author>Stupid Crunt</author>
	<datestamp>1259836200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...throw it away in someone else's yard, where you won't have to look at it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...throw it away in someone else 's yard , where you wo n't have to look at it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...throw it away in someone else's yard, where you won't have to look at it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316448</id>
	<title>repurpose, refill</title>
	<author>Fry-kun</author>
	<datestamp>1259835840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, you could use it for some DIY project. Printers have nice stepper motors and the guiding rod is pretty straight too.<br>But it doesn't have to be like that. You could just go buy an ink refill kit and refill existing cartridges</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , you could use it for some DIY project .
Printers have nice stepper motors and the guiding rod is pretty straight too.But it does n't have to be like that .
You could just go buy an ink refill kit and refill existing cartridges</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, you could use it for some DIY project.
Printers have nice stepper motors and the guiding rod is pretty straight too.But it doesn't have to be like that.
You could just go buy an ink refill kit and refill existing cartridges</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320330</id>
	<title>Re:Support Kodak's printers send the others a mess</title>
	<author>roc97007</author>
	<datestamp>1259856300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Kodak consumer printers use pigment inks?  I'm impressed!  I'll have to check that out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kodak consumer printers use pigment inks ?
I 'm impressed !
I 'll have to check that out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Kodak consumer printers use pigment inks?
I'm impressed!
I'll have to check that out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317104</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30324876</id>
	<title>Re:dyesub? Seriously?</title>
	<author>FreelanceWizard</author>
	<datestamp>1259947620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I assume you're referring to wax phase change printers such as the Phaser 800 series and its subsequent models, as opposed to dye sublimation printers. Dye sublimation printers don't need to keep any wax melted; the print head sublimates the wax using a thermal printing head. You can think of phase change printers as similar to inkjets, while dye-sub printers are similar to thermal receipt printers. Dye sublimation != phase change; they don't even use the same type of pigment (dye sub uses dye on a ribbon, while phase change uses wax with pigments).</p><p>As a prior owner of a Phaser 850 phase change printer, I can say that I was generally happy with it over the 7 years I owned it -- except for some rubber solenoid heads turning to goo due to the high heat in the printer. I also got to maintain a Phaser 8400, which made its users quite happy. One great advantage of these printers at the time they were released was that they had a very small dot size and excellent registration (as all the ink comes out of a print head, as opposed to a drum transfer process in a color laser) and printed faster than the color lasers of the time. They did all of this at a relatively low upfront cost, and Xerox even gave you black wax ("solid ink") for the life of the printer for the cost of shipping. Companies such as MediaScience quickly replicated the wax recipe and offered comparable consumables at an extremely low cost.</p><p>That said, phase change printers do suffer many of the flaws you mention; the standby on the Phaser 850 was about 250W, IIRC. The later models brought that down some, but the printer did need to keep wax melted and the printhead hot, which made their power costs relatively high. The printers also chew wax at an incredible speed, especially since they have to dump part (or in the case of the 850, all) of the melted wax if they ever went through a power cycle.</p><p>Nowadays, the advantages of the phase change printers are more or less gone; color lasers have caught up and come down in price, while cheaper inkjets do the job well enough with a lower upfront cost. That's essentially squeezed them out of the market.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I assume you 're referring to wax phase change printers such as the Phaser 800 series and its subsequent models , as opposed to dye sublimation printers .
Dye sublimation printers do n't need to keep any wax melted ; the print head sublimates the wax using a thermal printing head .
You can think of phase change printers as similar to inkjets , while dye-sub printers are similar to thermal receipt printers .
Dye sublimation ! = phase change ; they do n't even use the same type of pigment ( dye sub uses dye on a ribbon , while phase change uses wax with pigments ) .As a prior owner of a Phaser 850 phase change printer , I can say that I was generally happy with it over the 7 years I owned it -- except for some rubber solenoid heads turning to goo due to the high heat in the printer .
I also got to maintain a Phaser 8400 , which made its users quite happy .
One great advantage of these printers at the time they were released was that they had a very small dot size and excellent registration ( as all the ink comes out of a print head , as opposed to a drum transfer process in a color laser ) and printed faster than the color lasers of the time .
They did all of this at a relatively low upfront cost , and Xerox even gave you black wax ( " solid ink " ) for the life of the printer for the cost of shipping .
Companies such as MediaScience quickly replicated the wax recipe and offered comparable consumables at an extremely low cost.That said , phase change printers do suffer many of the flaws you mention ; the standby on the Phaser 850 was about 250W , IIRC .
The later models brought that down some , but the printer did need to keep wax melted and the printhead hot , which made their power costs relatively high .
The printers also chew wax at an incredible speed , especially since they have to dump part ( or in the case of the 850 , all ) of the melted wax if they ever went through a power cycle.Nowadays , the advantages of the phase change printers are more or less gone ; color lasers have caught up and come down in price , while cheaper inkjets do the job well enough with a lower upfront cost .
That 's essentially squeezed them out of the market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I assume you're referring to wax phase change printers such as the Phaser 800 series and its subsequent models, as opposed to dye sublimation printers.
Dye sublimation printers don't need to keep any wax melted; the print head sublimates the wax using a thermal printing head.
You can think of phase change printers as similar to inkjets, while dye-sub printers are similar to thermal receipt printers.
Dye sublimation != phase change; they don't even use the same type of pigment (dye sub uses dye on a ribbon, while phase change uses wax with pigments).As a prior owner of a Phaser 850 phase change printer, I can say that I was generally happy with it over the 7 years I owned it -- except for some rubber solenoid heads turning to goo due to the high heat in the printer.
I also got to maintain a Phaser 8400, which made its users quite happy.
One great advantage of these printers at the time they were released was that they had a very small dot size and excellent registration (as all the ink comes out of a print head, as opposed to a drum transfer process in a color laser) and printed faster than the color lasers of the time.
They did all of this at a relatively low upfront cost, and Xerox even gave you black wax ("solid ink") for the life of the printer for the cost of shipping.
Companies such as MediaScience quickly replicated the wax recipe and offered comparable consumables at an extremely low cost.That said, phase change printers do suffer many of the flaws you mention; the standby on the Phaser 850 was about 250W, IIRC.
The later models brought that down some, but the printer did need to keep wax melted and the printhead hot, which made their power costs relatively high.
The printers also chew wax at an incredible speed, especially since they have to dump part (or in the case of the 850, all) of the melted wax if they ever went through a power cycle.Nowadays, the advantages of the phase change printers are more or less gone; color lasers have caught up and come down in price, while cheaper inkjets do the job well enough with a lower upfront cost.
That's essentially squeezed them out of the market.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321150</id>
	<title>Re:Prevent.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259865000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Print/Copy/Fax/Fold/Mutiliate your opponent!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Print/Copy/Fax/Fold/Mutiliate your opponent !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Print/Copy/Fax/Fold/Mutiliate your opponent!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316508</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321224</id>
	<title>Stop buying *stuff*</title>
	<author>mblaney</author>
	<datestamp>1259866020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You might have *paid* less this way, but it certainly didn't *cost* less: <a href="http://storyofstuff.com/" title="storyofstuff.com" rel="nofollow">http://storyofstuff.com/</a> [storyofstuff.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>You might have * paid * less this way , but it certainly did n't * cost * less : http : //storyofstuff.com/ [ storyofstuff.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You might have *paid* less this way, but it certainly didn't *cost* less: http://storyofstuff.com/ [storyofstuff.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319516</id>
	<title>Print photos at a store for half the price</title>
	<author>Fencepost</author>
	<datestamp>1259849460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you're using that printer for photo printing, you may be paying twice as much to print your photos at home as it would cost to have them printed at a store (upload, order, pick up) or to have them printed by a service (upload, order, get in mail).<br><br>The quality from the store will probably be better as well.<br><br>Of course, if you're printing out nekkid photos that you don't want anyone else to ever see, print them yourself.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're using that printer for photo printing , you may be paying twice as much to print your photos at home as it would cost to have them printed at a store ( upload , order , pick up ) or to have them printed by a service ( upload , order , get in mail ) .The quality from the store will probably be better as well.Of course , if you 're printing out nekkid photos that you do n't want anyone else to ever see , print them yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're using that printer for photo printing, you may be paying twice as much to print your photos at home as it would cost to have them printed at a store (upload, order, pick up) or to have them printed by a service (upload, order, get in mail).The quality from the store will probably be better as well.Of course, if you're printing out nekkid photos that you don't want anyone else to ever see, print them yourself.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317462</id>
	<title>Re:Support Kodak's printers send the others a mess</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259838960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I second that. After my Epson 3-in-1 died, I bought a Kodak 3-in-1 WiFi model for about the same cost as comparable Epson/HP units. But the ink is less than half the cost (so I bought replacement ink cartridges as well).</p><p>The old Epson? I'll be taking it apart for the motors<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I second that .
After my Epson 3-in-1 died , I bought a Kodak 3-in-1 WiFi model for about the same cost as comparable Epson/HP units .
But the ink is less than half the cost ( so I bought replacement ink cartridges as well ) .The old Epson ?
I 'll be taking it apart for the motors : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I second that.
After my Epson 3-in-1 died, I bought a Kodak 3-in-1 WiFi model for about the same cost as comparable Epson/HP units.
But the ink is less than half the cost (so I bought replacement ink cartridges as well).The old Epson?
I'll be taking it apart for the motors :-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316820</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316954</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1259837340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You should read the summary over and over until you understand why I would suggest that you read the summary over and over.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You should read the summary over and over until you understand why I would suggest that you read the summary over and over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should read the summary over and over until you understand why I would suggest that you read the summary over and over.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316824</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or launch it into low earth orbit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or launch it into low earth orbit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or launch it into low earth orbit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317780</id>
	<title>buy carefully</title>
	<author>pbjones</author>
	<datestamp>1259840160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had the same problem, but before buying my next inkjet, I found out which B/W cart were best value, then bought a printer that used them. In the end I switched to Laser for general printing as the ink does not evaporate when not in use, and a photo printer for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..., But the photo printer is more expensive than just going to a shop and getting them printed there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had the same problem , but before buying my next inkjet , I found out which B/W cart were best value , then bought a printer that used them .
In the end I switched to Laser for general printing as the ink does not evaporate when not in use , and a photo printer for ... , But the photo printer is more expensive than just going to a shop and getting them printed there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had the same problem, but before buying my next inkjet, I found out which B/W cart were best value, then bought a printer that used them.
In the end I switched to Laser for general printing as the ink does not evaporate when not in use, and a photo printer for ..., But the photo printer is more expensive than just going to a shop and getting them printed there.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316646</id>
	<title>Just yesterday</title>
	<author>peragrin</author>
	<datestamp>1259836320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got called a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.tard for saying that individuals didn't need printers yesterday.  That i would rather have a cheap chromeOS powered device with no local storage and use that when i needed to move  documents around my home.  That smart phones just don't cut.</p><p>Of course now I will get called an idiot for just such things.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got called a /.tard for saying that individuals did n't need printers yesterday .
That i would rather have a cheap chromeOS powered device with no local storage and use that when i needed to move documents around my home .
That smart phones just do n't cut.Of course now I will get called an idiot for just such things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got called a /.tard for saying that individuals didn't need printers yesterday.
That i would rather have a cheap chromeOS powered device with no local storage and use that when i needed to move  documents around my home.
That smart phones just don't cut.Of course now I will get called an idiot for just such things.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316898</id>
	<title>Stop printing</title>
	<author>bl8n8r</author>
	<datestamp>1259837100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>seriously, most of the crap i used to print works just fine digitally.<br>The camera in my cellphone comes in handy for just about any kind<br>of digital reproduction I need. Shift away from the I-need-to-print<br>this-just-so-i-can-take-it-with-me to taking a pic of it, or emailing<br>it.</p><p>The only thing I use my printer for now is printing out coloring<br>book pages for the kid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>seriously , most of the crap i used to print works just fine digitally.The camera in my cellphone comes in handy for just about any kindof digital reproduction I need .
Shift away from the I-need-to-printthis-just-so-i-can-take-it-with-me to taking a pic of it , or emailingit.The only thing I use my printer for now is printing out coloringbook pages for the kid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>seriously, most of the crap i used to print works just fine digitally.The camera in my cellphone comes in handy for just about any kindof digital reproduction I need.
Shift away from the I-need-to-printthis-just-so-i-can-take-it-with-me to taking a pic of it, or emailingit.The only thing I use my printer for now is printing out coloringbook pages for the kid.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318132</id>
	<title>Re:Convert it to continuous feed inktanks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259841780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Be very very careful on this.</p><p>I tried one of these "systems" (read: hacked-together kludges) a few years ago, and found out the hard way that these are problematic.  You end up with hoses that kink or get caught by the fast-moving and surprisingly powerful print head mechanism, spilled ink, printer hatches that no longer close properly, and many other drawbacks.</p><p>I just wish some manufacturer made a printer with this design inherent to it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Be very very careful on this.I tried one of these " systems " ( read : hacked-together kludges ) a few years ago , and found out the hard way that these are problematic .
You end up with hoses that kink or get caught by the fast-moving and surprisingly powerful print head mechanism , spilled ink , printer hatches that no longer close properly , and many other drawbacks.I just wish some manufacturer made a printer with this design inherent to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Be very very careful on this.I tried one of these "systems" (read: hacked-together kludges) a few years ago, and found out the hard way that these are problematic.
You end up with hoses that kink or get caught by the fast-moving and surprisingly powerful print head mechanism, spilled ink, printer hatches that no longer close properly, and many other drawbacks.I just wish some manufacturer made a printer with this design inherent to it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316522</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30324286</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space</title>
	<author>PerfectionLost</author>
	<datestamp>1259945040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yea I was about to say Office-Space it.  Make sure you get some good gangster music.</p><p>Alternately you could drop it off the roof of a building.  That's what we did when we were kids anyways.</p><p>There are also more responsible options like recycling it, or donating it to a charity organization in the third world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yea I was about to say Office-Space it .
Make sure you get some good gangster music.Alternately you could drop it off the roof of a building .
That 's what we did when we were kids anyways.There are also more responsible options like recycling it , or donating it to a charity organization in the third world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yea I was about to say Office-Space it.
Make sure you get some good gangster music.Alternately you could drop it off the roof of a building.
That's what we did when we were kids anyways.There are also more responsible options like recycling it, or donating it to a charity organization in the third world.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316418</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317224</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1259838120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><b>Kaboom    </b>   is the name of one of the best videogames ever made!</p><p><a href="http://www.atariguide.com/0/026.htm" title="atariguide.com">http://www.atariguide.com/0/026.htm</a> [atariguide.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kaboom is the name of one of the best videogames ever made ! http : //www.atariguide.com/0/026.htm [ atariguide.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kaboom       is the name of one of the best videogames ever made!http://www.atariguide.com/0/026.htm [atariguide.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316540</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322360</id>
	<title>Re:Simple!</title>
	<author>MrMr</author>
	<datestamp>1259928600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, that is exactly what you should do according to the law around here. The retailer is obliged to take in old equipment and have it recycled (and receives a small handling fee for that).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , that is exactly what you should do according to the law around here .
The retailer is obliged to take in old equipment and have it recycled ( and receives a small handling fee for that ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, that is exactly what you should do according to the law around here.
The retailer is obliged to take in old equipment and have it recycled (and receives a small handling fee for that).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316472</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319896</id>
	<title>Send it back to them</title>
	<author>EmagGeek</author>
	<datestamp>1259852460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With a note..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With a note. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With a note..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317130</id>
	<title>They play games with laser printers too.</title>
	<author>gmfeier</author>
	<datestamp>1259837820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>My Brother laser printer supposedly came new with a half-sized cartridge. It signalled for a replacement after a disappointingly small number of copies. But - it was really a full cartridge! A little black tape in the right areas and it lasted for the better part of another year.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My Brother laser printer supposedly came new with a half-sized cartridge .
It signalled for a replacement after a disappointingly small number of copies .
But - it was really a full cartridge !
A little black tape in the right areas and it lasted for the better part of another year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Brother laser printer supposedly came new with a half-sized cartridge.
It signalled for a replacement after a disappointingly small number of copies.
But - it was really a full cartridge!
A little black tape in the right areas and it lasted for the better part of another year.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321324</id>
	<title>Re:Get yourself a color laser</title>
	<author>wvmarle</author>
	<datestamp>1259867400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All have their pros and cons; I think for my use both could be a good solution.
</p><p>Two years ago I bought an OfficeJet Pro L7580 (printer/fax/scanner/copier all in one) at about USD 300. Print quality is very good, can print double sided even (I do use that sometimes, mainly to save a bit on paper). I have printed about 5000 pages by now, just over ten per working day average. Average cost, including ink and paper, I just calculated to be about USD 0.083 per page. And I am just halfway my third black cartridge, while most what I print is just black text.
</p><p>About 70\% of that cost is the printer purchase price and the rest is ink and paper - so it's hard for a laser to beat this cost per page, considering a laser costs still more than double just for the printer. This means I really have to print a lot more to save costs. Especially if you are looking for a laser printer with the same multi-functionality. I need a fax, sometimes for more than one sheet and then the sheet feeder is a must. Same for scanning and copying, usually just one page, sometimes more. This I do often enough to want to have a machine in house, but not often enough to warrant dedicated devices. I copy/fax less than once a day. HP claims that the cost of prints on this printer is actually cheaper than on laserjets.
</p><p>So there is a lot to say for inkjets: and cost is one. For the price difference of inkjet/laserjet you can still buy quite some cartridges for your inkjet. If you use it so infrequent that you have problems with heads drying out, you'd better use a commercial print shop in the first place. If you use it daily but small volumes, an inkjet is simply cheaper than a laserjet (go for the better inkjets, not the bottom-line models). Only if you have to print really a lot lasers become cheaper.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All have their pros and cons ; I think for my use both could be a good solution .
Two years ago I bought an OfficeJet Pro L7580 ( printer/fax/scanner/copier all in one ) at about USD 300 .
Print quality is very good , can print double sided even ( I do use that sometimes , mainly to save a bit on paper ) .
I have printed about 5000 pages by now , just over ten per working day average .
Average cost , including ink and paper , I just calculated to be about USD 0.083 per page .
And I am just halfway my third black cartridge , while most what I print is just black text .
About 70 \ % of that cost is the printer purchase price and the rest is ink and paper - so it 's hard for a laser to beat this cost per page , considering a laser costs still more than double just for the printer .
This means I really have to print a lot more to save costs .
Especially if you are looking for a laser printer with the same multi-functionality .
I need a fax , sometimes for more than one sheet and then the sheet feeder is a must .
Same for scanning and copying , usually just one page , sometimes more .
This I do often enough to want to have a machine in house , but not often enough to warrant dedicated devices .
I copy/fax less than once a day .
HP claims that the cost of prints on this printer is actually cheaper than on laserjets .
So there is a lot to say for inkjets : and cost is one .
For the price difference of inkjet/laserjet you can still buy quite some cartridges for your inkjet .
If you use it so infrequent that you have problems with heads drying out , you 'd better use a commercial print shop in the first place .
If you use it daily but small volumes , an inkjet is simply cheaper than a laserjet ( go for the better inkjets , not the bottom-line models ) .
Only if you have to print really a lot lasers become cheaper .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All have their pros and cons; I think for my use both could be a good solution.
Two years ago I bought an OfficeJet Pro L7580 (printer/fax/scanner/copier all in one) at about USD 300.
Print quality is very good, can print double sided even (I do use that sometimes, mainly to save a bit on paper).
I have printed about 5000 pages by now, just over ten per working day average.
Average cost, including ink and paper, I just calculated to be about USD 0.083 per page.
And I am just halfway my third black cartridge, while most what I print is just black text.
About 70\% of that cost is the printer purchase price and the rest is ink and paper - so it's hard for a laser to beat this cost per page, considering a laser costs still more than double just for the printer.
This means I really have to print a lot more to save costs.
Especially if you are looking for a laser printer with the same multi-functionality.
I need a fax, sometimes for more than one sheet and then the sheet feeder is a must.
Same for scanning and copying, usually just one page, sometimes more.
This I do often enough to want to have a machine in house, but not often enough to warrant dedicated devices.
I copy/fax less than once a day.
HP claims that the cost of prints on this printer is actually cheaper than on laserjets.
So there is a lot to say for inkjets: and cost is one.
For the price difference of inkjet/laserjet you can still buy quite some cartridges for your inkjet.
If you use it so infrequent that you have problems with heads drying out, you'd better use a commercial print shop in the first place.
If you use it daily but small volumes, an inkjet is simply cheaper than a laserjet (go for the better inkjets, not the bottom-line models).
Only if you have to print really a lot lasers become cheaper.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318048</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30327860</id>
	<title>Re:Support Kodak's printers send the others a mess</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259959980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't tell those poor people that!  Kodak easyshare has the most bloated software around (and you *have* to install the software, it won't let you just install the driver)  I've seen the easyshare software install fail more often than I've seen it succeed (and yes, I have worked with around a dozen different models), and you'll feel a rage like you've never felt before when you call Kodak support trying to find out why your brand new printer won't share over the network properly, and the tech tells you that the printer *doesn't support that.*</p><p>Doesn't support simple printer sharing?</p><p>Kodak printers are the worst out there, no doubt about it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't tell those poor people that !
Kodak easyshare has the most bloated software around ( and you * have * to install the software , it wo n't let you just install the driver ) I 've seen the easyshare software install fail more often than I 've seen it succeed ( and yes , I have worked with around a dozen different models ) , and you 'll feel a rage like you 've never felt before when you call Kodak support trying to find out why your brand new printer wo n't share over the network properly , and the tech tells you that the printer * does n't support that .
* Does n't support simple printer sharing ? Kodak printers are the worst out there , no doubt about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't tell those poor people that!
Kodak easyshare has the most bloated software around (and you *have* to install the software, it won't let you just install the driver)  I've seen the easyshare software install fail more often than I've seen it succeed (and yes, I have worked with around a dozen different models), and you'll feel a rage like you've never felt before when you call Kodak support trying to find out why your brand new printer won't share over the network properly, and the tech tells you that the printer *doesn't support that.
*Doesn't support simple printer sharing?Kodak printers are the worst out there, no doubt about it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316820</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322304</id>
	<title>Re:Send it to the manufacturer</title>
	<author>pjt33</author>
	<datestamp>1259927400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm pretty sure this is what is supposed to happen in the EU now, with the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste\_Electrical\_and\_Electronic\_Equipment\_Directive" title="wikipedia.org">WEEE directive</a> [wikipedia.org]. I haven't noticed that it's affected pricing structures yet, though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm pretty sure this is what is supposed to happen in the EU now , with the WEEE directive [ wikipedia.org ] .
I have n't noticed that it 's affected pricing structures yet , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm pretty sure this is what is supposed to happen in the EU now, with the WEEE directive [wikipedia.org].
I haven't noticed that it's affected pricing structures yet, though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316474</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320956</id>
	<title>Re:Cheap Printer?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259862660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Best Buy offers free electronic recycling.<br>-PC's and monitors they charge ten bucks for, but you get a ten dollar gift card.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Best Buy offers free electronic recycling.-PC 's and monitors they charge ten bucks for , but you get a ten dollar gift card .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Best Buy offers free electronic recycling.-PC's and monitors they charge ten bucks for, but you get a ten dollar gift card.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316416</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321888</id>
	<title>Re:Get yourself a color laser</title>
	<author>roman\_mir</author>
	<datestamp>1259919840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe someone should come up with an inkjet printer that would use distilled water to clean the heads.  But then less ink would be wasted...  I suppose the printermakers could sell distilled water cartridges for $50 a pop as a 'special cleaning solution'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe someone should come up with an inkjet printer that would use distilled water to clean the heads .
But then less ink would be wasted... I suppose the printermakers could sell distilled water cartridges for $ 50 a pop as a 'special cleaning solution' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe someone should come up with an inkjet printer that would use distilled water to clean the heads.
But then less ink would be wasted...  I suppose the printermakers could sell distilled water cartridges for $50 a pop as a 'special cleaning solution'.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320372</id>
	<title>Buy a laser. Just do it.</title>
	<author>ReneeJade</author>
	<datestamp>1259856660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Being only 20 years old I have never owned an ink printer and I am very glad. I bought a laser printer (monochrome I admit) for $90 Australian. It's been going strong for 2 years with no issue and no refill. It gets carted 500km up the highway and back twice a year, it gets neglected for weeks at a time and still it just works. And it's fast (at least on Windows, the Linux driver is a bit dismal).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Being only 20 years old I have never owned an ink printer and I am very glad .
I bought a laser printer ( monochrome I admit ) for $ 90 Australian .
It 's been going strong for 2 years with no issue and no refill .
It gets carted 500km up the highway and back twice a year , it gets neglected for weeks at a time and still it just works .
And it 's fast ( at least on Windows , the Linux driver is a bit dismal ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being only 20 years old I have never owned an ink printer and I am very glad.
I bought a laser printer (monochrome I admit) for $90 Australian.
It's been going strong for 2 years with no issue and no refill.
It gets carted 500km up the highway and back twice a year, it gets neglected for weeks at a time and still it just works.
And it's fast (at least on Windows, the Linux driver is a bit dismal).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322252</id>
	<title>Re:Don't buy inkjets period</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259926620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Besides the cost, with inkjets, you have clean the head constantly and if you don't use in a while </i></p><p>This is *not* a universal problem. My HP880c deskjet with partially used cartridges was packed in its box for moving and then left unused for nearly a year - it printed just fine. Often a month or two passes with no colour printing.</p><p>As for the economics, inkjets (ones which *don't* dry up!) are perfectly OK for low-volume printing. I've had the HP for nearly ten years now, and I've only replaced the black cartridge 3 times (&pound;10/$15 for high capacity replacement) - and the colour cartridge twice  (&pound;17/$25). Total spend on consumables &pound;64/$95 over ten years - a trivial amount.<br>Still works as well as the day I bought it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Besides the cost , with inkjets , you have clean the head constantly and if you do n't use in a while This is * not * a universal problem .
My HP880c deskjet with partially used cartridges was packed in its box for moving and then left unused for nearly a year - it printed just fine .
Often a month or two passes with no colour printing.As for the economics , inkjets ( ones which * do n't * dry up !
) are perfectly OK for low-volume printing .
I 've had the HP for nearly ten years now , and I 've only replaced the black cartridge 3 times (   10/ $ 15 for high capacity replacement ) - and the colour cartridge twice (   17/ $ 25 ) .
Total spend on consumables   64/ $ 95 over ten years - a trivial amount.Still works as well as the day I bought it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Besides the cost, with inkjets, you have clean the head constantly and if you don't use in a while This is *not* a universal problem.
My HP880c deskjet with partially used cartridges was packed in its box for moving and then left unused for nearly a year - it printed just fine.
Often a month or two passes with no colour printing.As for the economics, inkjets (ones which *don't* dry up!
) are perfectly OK for low-volume printing.
I've had the HP for nearly ten years now, and I've only replaced the black cartridge 3 times (£10/$15 for high capacity replacement) - and the colour cartridge twice  (£17/$25).
Total spend on consumables £64/$95 over ten years - a trivial amount.Still works as well as the day I bought it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320588</id>
	<title>Laser, laser, laser!</title>
	<author>phillymjs</author>
	<datestamp>1259858520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Inkjets suck, they drain your wallet whether you print a lot or not... if you print a lot you use up the ink, if you don't the print heads can get clogged and you waste ink on the clearing process-- or worse, the clearing process doesn't work and you have to replace the cartridge anyway.</p><p>Get a laser printer. If possible, an older one that has been well taken care of and was a popular model (to ensure that you'll be able to get toner for a while). The older stuff, particularly HPs from the early 90s, was really built to last-- especially compared to the cheap, throwaway shit that is sold today.</p><p>I'm still nursing along an old Apple LaserWriter Select 360 that I bought new in 1994. It cost $1400 at the time. Toner carts for it cost about $80. I'm only on my second toner *ever*-- including the (full, not "starter") one that came in the box with the printer. I just got Snow Leopard to play nice with it, since the printer doesn't speak TCP/IP and Appletalk is gone from SL. A decent parallel port print server and less than an hour of monkeying with it to get the settings right, and I'm back in business. I may buy a color laser at some point, but as long as I can get it to work with my current systems, I plan to keep and use the Select 360 until one of us dies.</p><p>~Philly</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Inkjets suck , they drain your wallet whether you print a lot or not... if you print a lot you use up the ink , if you do n't the print heads can get clogged and you waste ink on the clearing process-- or worse , the clearing process does n't work and you have to replace the cartridge anyway.Get a laser printer .
If possible , an older one that has been well taken care of and was a popular model ( to ensure that you 'll be able to get toner for a while ) .
The older stuff , particularly HPs from the early 90s , was really built to last-- especially compared to the cheap , throwaway shit that is sold today.I 'm still nursing along an old Apple LaserWriter Select 360 that I bought new in 1994 .
It cost $ 1400 at the time .
Toner carts for it cost about $ 80 .
I 'm only on my second toner * ever * -- including the ( full , not " starter " ) one that came in the box with the printer .
I just got Snow Leopard to play nice with it , since the printer does n't speak TCP/IP and Appletalk is gone from SL .
A decent parallel port print server and less than an hour of monkeying with it to get the settings right , and I 'm back in business .
I may buy a color laser at some point , but as long as I can get it to work with my current systems , I plan to keep and use the Select 360 until one of us dies. ~ Philly</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Inkjets suck, they drain your wallet whether you print a lot or not... if you print a lot you use up the ink, if you don't the print heads can get clogged and you waste ink on the clearing process-- or worse, the clearing process doesn't work and you have to replace the cartridge anyway.Get a laser printer.
If possible, an older one that has been well taken care of and was a popular model (to ensure that you'll be able to get toner for a while).
The older stuff, particularly HPs from the early 90s, was really built to last-- especially compared to the cheap, throwaway shit that is sold today.I'm still nursing along an old Apple LaserWriter Select 360 that I bought new in 1994.
It cost $1400 at the time.
Toner carts for it cost about $80.
I'm only on my second toner *ever*-- including the (full, not "starter") one that came in the box with the printer.
I just got Snow Leopard to play nice with it, since the printer doesn't speak TCP/IP and Appletalk is gone from SL.
A decent parallel port print server and less than an hour of monkeying with it to get the settings right, and I'm back in business.
I may buy a color laser at some point, but as long as I can get it to work with my current systems, I plan to keep and use the Select 360 until one of us dies.~Philly</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317528</id>
	<title>Drop it at the store you bought it from</title>
	<author>n4djs</author>
	<datestamp>1259839140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... late at night, after they close.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... late at night , after they close .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... late at night, after they close.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321600</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>modecx</author>
	<datestamp>1259957700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Using a shotgun was a little risky because of the potential of those pellets scattering and bouncing back when hitting metal parts. </i></p><p>Really, as long as you wear appropriate eye protection, you have next to nothing to worry about unless you're right on top of the target. We shoot steel plates all the time with the shotgun and pistol. As long as you're facing it head on, lead shot pretty much just splashes perpendicular to the target plane. It helps if the plates are angled down a degree or two, the impacta sprays harmlessly right onto the ground underneath.</p><p>Steel shot on steel targets, however, yeah that's recipe for injury at close range.</p><p>Anyway, I find that #4 buckshot is to be employed when desiring maximum carnage related satisfaction. Perfect balance of shot count, shot spread, and target shredding individual projectile energy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Using a shotgun was a little risky because of the potential of those pellets scattering and bouncing back when hitting metal parts .
Really , as long as you wear appropriate eye protection , you have next to nothing to worry about unless you 're right on top of the target .
We shoot steel plates all the time with the shotgun and pistol .
As long as you 're facing it head on , lead shot pretty much just splashes perpendicular to the target plane .
It helps if the plates are angled down a degree or two , the impacta sprays harmlessly right onto the ground underneath.Steel shot on steel targets , however , yeah that 's recipe for injury at close range.Anyway , I find that # 4 buckshot is to be employed when desiring maximum carnage related satisfaction .
Perfect balance of shot count , shot spread , and target shredding individual projectile energy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Using a shotgun was a little risky because of the potential of those pellets scattering and bouncing back when hitting metal parts.
Really, as long as you wear appropriate eye protection, you have next to nothing to worry about unless you're right on top of the target.
We shoot steel plates all the time with the shotgun and pistol.
As long as you're facing it head on, lead shot pretty much just splashes perpendicular to the target plane.
It helps if the plates are angled down a degree or two, the impacta sprays harmlessly right onto the ground underneath.Steel shot on steel targets, however, yeah that's recipe for injury at close range.Anyway, I find that #4 buckshot is to be employed when desiring maximum carnage related satisfaction.
Perfect balance of shot count, shot spread, and target shredding individual projectile energy.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317180</id>
	<title>Re:The old fashioned way</title>
	<author>Burning1</author>
	<datestamp>1259838000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cyan sweat?</p><p>Let me guess, you were once an extra in a Gatorade commercial...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cyan sweat ? Let me guess , you were once an extra in a Gatorade commercial.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cyan sweat?Let me guess, you were once an extra in a Gatorade commercial...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316662</id>
	<title>Red Ink</title>
	<author>happy\_place</author>
	<datestamp>1259836380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Paper and Ink have been HP's bread and butter for a long time. They sell the printer at a loss, but keep the price of ink and paper high. Sadly because they give away the printers, the printer companies have also stopped investing in quality printer designs, drivers, software support, etc, and you can more or less kiss the printer goodbye once it starts to behave badly. Most printer related jobs have now been succesfully outsourced to Asia. Ten years ago when HP had its first lay offs, they didn't touch the printer divisions. Now they can't seem to cut employees fast enough. Printers have become a commodity in which innovation and quality are really no longer important.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Paper and Ink have been HP 's bread and butter for a long time .
They sell the printer at a loss , but keep the price of ink and paper high .
Sadly because they give away the printers , the printer companies have also stopped investing in quality printer designs , drivers , software support , etc , and you can more or less kiss the printer goodbye once it starts to behave badly .
Most printer related jobs have now been succesfully outsourced to Asia .
Ten years ago when HP had its first lay offs , they did n't touch the printer divisions .
Now they ca n't seem to cut employees fast enough .
Printers have become a commodity in which innovation and quality are really no longer important .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Paper and Ink have been HP's bread and butter for a long time.
They sell the printer at a loss, but keep the price of ink and paper high.
Sadly because they give away the printers, the printer companies have also stopped investing in quality printer designs, drivers, software support, etc, and you can more or less kiss the printer goodbye once it starts to behave badly.
Most printer related jobs have now been succesfully outsourced to Asia.
Ten years ago when HP had its first lay offs, they didn't touch the printer divisions.
Now they can't seem to cut employees fast enough.
Printers have become a commodity in which innovation and quality are really no longer important.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317834</id>
	<title>Laser and PDF</title>
	<author>sunfly</author>
	<datestamp>1259840340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is amazing how little most of us really need to print.  We print most things to PDF's, and store digitally.</p><p>For the once a month item we do actually print a laser printer was affordable to buy, works great, and operates on pennies.</p><p>Pictures look (and last?) much better on real photo paper anyway.  MPix.com is amazing (among others), and even the kiosk at the local big box store (or neighborhood photo store if you are still lucky enough to have one) work decent.</p><p>Opt out... refuse to play their game.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is amazing how little most of us really need to print .
We print most things to PDF 's , and store digitally.For the once a month item we do actually print a laser printer was affordable to buy , works great , and operates on pennies.Pictures look ( and last ?
) much better on real photo paper anyway .
MPix.com is amazing ( among others ) , and even the kiosk at the local big box store ( or neighborhood photo store if you are still lucky enough to have one ) work decent.Opt out... refuse to play their game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is amazing how little most of us really need to print.
We print most things to PDF's, and store digitally.For the once a month item we do actually print a laser printer was affordable to buy, works great, and operates on pennies.Pictures look (and last?
) much better on real photo paper anyway.
MPix.com is amazing (among others), and even the kiosk at the local big box store (or neighborhood photo store if you are still lucky enough to have one) work decent.Opt out... refuse to play their game.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319746</id>
	<title>You don't even need that.</title>
	<author>LordArgon</author>
	<datestamp>1259851200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My favorite part of the whole movie is when Michael throws away the bat and attacks it with his bare fists.</p><p>I've felt that kind of animosity for inanimate objects many times.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My favorite part of the whole movie is when Michael throws away the bat and attacks it with his bare fists.I 've felt that kind of animosity for inanimate objects many times .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My favorite part of the whole movie is when Michael throws away the bat and attacks it with his bare fists.I've felt that kind of animosity for inanimate objects many times.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321470</id>
	<title>Re:Simple!</title>
	<author>JustNilt</author>
	<datestamp>1259869320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's also called theft, if by "return it" you mean to extract a refund from a retailer.  That's pretty clearly "intent to permanently deprive".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's also called theft , if by " return it " you mean to extract a refund from a retailer .
That 's pretty clearly " intent to permanently deprive " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's also called theft, if by "return it" you mean to extract a refund from a retailer.
That's pretty clearly "intent to permanently deprive".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316472</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317370</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>guruevi</author>
	<datestamp>1259838660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, I have done the calculations and the difference between ink/toner is only about 1 or 2c per page (especially once you get to color).</p><p>For a b/w Brother laser printer the cost is 2c/p with remanufactured cartridges, 3c/p with high-capacity cartridges and 4c/p with the standard cartridges<br>For a color Brother laser printer the cost is 4c/p black, 4c/p color with new cartridges<br>For a Canon Pixma inkjet printer the cost is 3c/p black, 5c/p color with new cartridges</p><p>So if you're a very low volume printer, then lasers are probably not worth the investments. Especially since the very cheap ($99 OkiData color laser for Cyber Monday) have more expensive cartridges ($120/cartridge = $480 to replace all) Off course once you get to HP printers, the costs shoot up (as the cartridges are 3-6x more expensive than the Canon Pixma's). Lasers also print infinitely faster than the inkjets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , I have done the calculations and the difference between ink/toner is only about 1 or 2c per page ( especially once you get to color ) .For a b/w Brother laser printer the cost is 2c/p with remanufactured cartridges , 3c/p with high-capacity cartridges and 4c/p with the standard cartridgesFor a color Brother laser printer the cost is 4c/p black , 4c/p color with new cartridgesFor a Canon Pixma inkjet printer the cost is 3c/p black , 5c/p color with new cartridgesSo if you 're a very low volume printer , then lasers are probably not worth the investments .
Especially since the very cheap ( $ 99 OkiData color laser for Cyber Monday ) have more expensive cartridges ( $ 120/cartridge = $ 480 to replace all ) Off course once you get to HP printers , the costs shoot up ( as the cartridges are 3-6x more expensive than the Canon Pixma 's ) .
Lasers also print infinitely faster than the inkjets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, I have done the calculations and the difference between ink/toner is only about 1 or 2c per page (especially once you get to color).For a b/w Brother laser printer the cost is 2c/p with remanufactured cartridges, 3c/p with high-capacity cartridges and 4c/p with the standard cartridgesFor a color Brother laser printer the cost is 4c/p black, 4c/p color with new cartridgesFor a Canon Pixma inkjet printer the cost is 3c/p black, 5c/p color with new cartridgesSo if you're a very low volume printer, then lasers are probably not worth the investments.
Especially since the very cheap ($99 OkiData color laser for Cyber Monday) have more expensive cartridges ($120/cartridge = $480 to replace all) Off course once you get to HP printers, the costs shoot up (as the cartridges are 3-6x more expensive than the Canon Pixma's).
Lasers also print infinitely faster than the inkjets.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317628</id>
	<title>Re:Support Kodak's printers send the others a mess</title>
	<author>Nimey</author>
	<datestamp>1259839560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also Canon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also Canon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also Canon.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316820</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316872</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>TheGratefulNet</author>
	<datestamp>1259837040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>There's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.</i></p><p>applies to OTHER goods, too.</p><p>more urgent: have the gov look into health care (pharma) drug costs.  there is NO WAY that pills need to cost what they cost.  the disparity between countries is one such clue.</p><p>no one dies from not having ink.  PEOPLE DIE FROM NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD LIFE SAVING DRUGS.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..perspective for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.applies to OTHER goods , too.more urgent : have the gov look into health care ( pharma ) drug costs .
there is NO WAY that pills need to cost what they cost .
the disparity between countries is one such clue.no one dies from not having ink .
PEOPLE DIE FROM NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD LIFE SAVING DRUGS .
..perspective for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.applies to OTHER goods, too.more urgent: have the gov look into health care (pharma) drug costs.
there is NO WAY that pills need to cost what they cost.
the disparity between countries is one such clue.no one dies from not having ink.
PEOPLE DIE FROM NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD LIFE SAVING DRUGS.
..perspective for you.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30327320</id>
	<title>Try Freecycle</title>
	<author>elvenkayt</author>
	<datestamp>1259957580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Freecycle is a great place to go to get rid of stuff.  Believe me, someone will want it.  And you can usually arrange for them to pick it up.  Find a local chapter, join the group and then post your offer.  You won't get any money for it, but maybe someone could use it.

www.freecycle.org</htmltext>
<tokenext>Freecycle is a great place to go to get rid of stuff .
Believe me , someone will want it .
And you can usually arrange for them to pick it up .
Find a local chapter , join the group and then post your offer .
You wo n't get any money for it , but maybe someone could use it .
www.freecycle.org</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Freecycle is a great place to go to get rid of stuff.
Believe me, someone will want it.
And you can usually arrange for them to pick it up.
Find a local chapter, join the group and then post your offer.
You won't get any money for it, but maybe someone could use it.
www.freecycle.org</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316456</id>
	<title>Moral of the story: DON'T BUY AN INKJET</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259835900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Inkjets have ridiculous per-page ink costs.</p><p>Get a laser printer instead. Even color lasers are very affordable. Per-page toner costs with a small b&amp;w are less than 5 cents per page (with a great laser you can bring that down to 1 cent).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Inkjets have ridiculous per-page ink costs.Get a laser printer instead .
Even color lasers are very affordable .
Per-page toner costs with a small b&amp;w are less than 5 cents per page ( with a great laser you can bring that down to 1 cent ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Inkjets have ridiculous per-page ink costs.Get a laser printer instead.
Even color lasers are very affordable.
Per-page toner costs with a small b&amp;w are less than 5 cents per page (with a great laser you can bring that down to 1 cent).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30327450</id>
	<title>Play with the motors</title>
	<author>adokink</author>
	<datestamp>1259958180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can throw it away, or you can get yourself some nice stepper motors to play with.

Buy or build an Arduino board and make something completely new with them!

There is plenty of info in www.arduino.cc

Or you may check other online stores to buy some extra components.

Fun stuff!</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can throw it away , or you can get yourself some nice stepper motors to play with .
Buy or build an Arduino board and make something completely new with them !
There is plenty of info in www.arduino.cc Or you may check other online stores to buy some extra components .
Fun stuff !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can throw it away, or you can get yourself some nice stepper motors to play with.
Buy or build an Arduino board and make something completely new with them!
There is plenty of info in www.arduino.cc

Or you may check other online stores to buy some extra components.
Fun stuff!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316480</id>
	<title>Just find an eWaste recycler</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259835960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you're too cheap to pay the recycling fee, just put it in the garage and wait until someone is doing a free recycling drive. I personally think that recycling fees are bogus.  In California they already tack on a waste fee when you buy electronic goods.  It's ridiculous that recyclers charge to recycle at the end other end of the waste stream as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're too cheap to pay the recycling fee , just put it in the garage and wait until someone is doing a free recycling drive .
I personally think that recycling fees are bogus .
In California they already tack on a waste fee when you buy electronic goods .
It 's ridiculous that recyclers charge to recycle at the end other end of the waste stream as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're too cheap to pay the recycling fee, just put it in the garage and wait until someone is doing a free recycling drive.
I personally think that recycling fees are bogus.
In California they already tack on a waste fee when you buy electronic goods.
It's ridiculous that recyclers charge to recycle at the end other end of the waste stream as well.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317970</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>g1zmo</author>
	<datestamp>1259841000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I next tried pouring my equipment with gasoline because of its high combustibility and hoped the bullets would collide with metal and create sparks. It doesn't work that well. Those scenes in the movies where the cars always explode after shooting the gas tanks--not as easy to do in reality as you would think. So imagine trying it on old electronics.</p></div><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tannerite" title="wikipedia.org">Tannerite</a> [wikipedia.org] is what you're looking for.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I next tried pouring my equipment with gasoline because of its high combustibility and hoped the bullets would collide with metal and create sparks .
It does n't work that well .
Those scenes in the movies where the cars always explode after shooting the gas tanks--not as easy to do in reality as you would think .
So imagine trying it on old electronics .
Tannerite [ wikipedia.org ] is what you 're looking for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I next tried pouring my equipment with gasoline because of its high combustibility and hoped the bullets would collide with metal and create sparks.
It doesn't work that well.
Those scenes in the movies where the cars always explode after shooting the gas tanks--not as easy to do in reality as you would think.
So imagine trying it on old electronics.
Tannerite [wikipedia.org] is what you're looking for.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316648</id>
	<title>Look on-line</title>
	<author>tomhudson</author>
	<datestamp>1259836320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Look on-line  6 cartridges for your printer (black, yellow, cyan, magenta, light cyan, light magenta) would have cost you $30.
</p><p>
They would have also held twice as much as the "starter cartridges" in your printer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look on-line 6 cartridges for your printer ( black , yellow , cyan , magenta , light cyan , light magenta ) would have cost you $ 30 .
They would have also held twice as much as the " starter cartridges " in your printer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Look on-line  6 cartridges for your printer (black, yellow, cyan, magenta, light cyan, light magenta) would have cost you $30.
They would have also held twice as much as the "starter cartridges" in your printer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316620</id>
	<title>Recycle It!</title>
	<author>esten</author>
	<datestamp>1259836260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Best Buy has recycling programs for E-waste. For most items Best Buy's service is free or minimal cost ($10) and you get a $10 Best Buy gift card. I would assume recycling the printer would be free.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Best Buy has recycling programs for E-waste .
For most items Best Buy 's service is free or minimal cost ( $ 10 ) and you get a $ 10 Best Buy gift card .
I would assume recycling the printer would be free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Best Buy has recycling programs for E-waste.
For most items Best Buy's service is free or minimal cost ($10) and you get a $10 Best Buy gift card.
I would assume recycling the printer would be free.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318280</id>
	<title>Re:Donate and claim a tax deduction!</title>
	<author>Joce640k</author>
	<datestamp>1259842380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, saddle them with the burden and expense of an old inkjet. Your good deed for the day!</p><p>Oh, wait, you made $2 on the deal<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... 'donations' FTW !!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , saddle them with the burden and expense of an old inkjet .
Your good deed for the day ! Oh , wait , you made $ 2 on the deal ... 'donations ' FTW ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, saddle them with the burden and expense of an old inkjet.
Your good deed for the day!Oh, wait, you made $2 on the deal ... 'donations' FTW !!!!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316494</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321900</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>Cwix</author>
	<datestamp>1259920080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I had issues getting Win XP or vista drivers working in 7.  Cheap little photosmart c3180  $40 printer that has lasted me almost 3years.  I think the last time I tried it they had it working thou, I just wanted to point out that it might not be as perfect as you think.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had issues getting Win XP or vista drivers working in 7 .
Cheap little photosmart c3180 $ 40 printer that has lasted me almost 3years .
I think the last time I tried it they had it working thou , I just wanted to point out that it might not be as perfect as you think .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had issues getting Win XP or vista drivers working in 7.
Cheap little photosmart c3180  $40 printer that has lasted me almost 3years.
I think the last time I tried it they had it working thou, I just wanted to point out that it might not be as perfect as you think.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316714</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30323040</id>
	<title>Re:Send it to the manufacturer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259938080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's their business practice that causes this?!<br>
How about the morons that keep buying inkjet printers???<br>
How the fuck can you be modded insightful?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's their business practice that causes this ? !
How about the morons that keep buying inkjet printers ? ? ?
How the fuck can you be modded insightful ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's their business practice that causes this?!
How about the morons that keep buying inkjet printers???
How the fuck can you be modded insightful?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316474</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30323708</id>
	<title>Re:Prevent.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259942160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tonight's Matchup:</p><p><b>The Four Color Killer</b> vs. the <b>Paper Jammer</b>!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tonight 's Matchup : The Four Color Killer vs. the Paper Jammer !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tonight's Matchup:The Four Color Killer vs. the Paper Jammer!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316508</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317544</id>
	<title>Re:Simple!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259839200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>not to mention illegal!  you laugh, but I've worked retail for many years and this happens all the time</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>not to mention illegal !
you laugh , but I 've worked retail for many years and this happens all the time</tokentext>
<sentencetext>not to mention illegal!
you laugh, but I've worked retail for many years and this happens all the time</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316472</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30374436</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260298080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WTF!?</p><p>A shotgun with sights is quite effective out to a hundred yards with buckshot. Besides which, while ricochet is a danger, it's almost impossible for the shooter (vs. bystanders at a significant angle, even though the same distance) to get seriously injured, much less killed, by ricochet at any practical range. Yeah, standing over your monitor and plugging it repeatedly while yelling "Die, Motherfucking Dumbass!" has a decent chance of causing the real motherfucking dumbass a hospital trip, but you could blast it from 5 meters all day and never get hit with a ricochet, and 15 meters is downright safe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WTF !
? A shotgun with sights is quite effective out to a hundred yards with buckshot .
Besides which , while ricochet is a danger , it 's almost impossible for the shooter ( vs. bystanders at a significant angle , even though the same distance ) to get seriously injured , much less killed , by ricochet at any practical range .
Yeah , standing over your monitor and plugging it repeatedly while yelling " Die , Motherfucking Dumbass !
" has a decent chance of causing the real motherfucking dumbass a hospital trip , but you could blast it from 5 meters all day and never get hit with a ricochet , and 15 meters is downright safe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WTF!
?A shotgun with sights is quite effective out to a hundred yards with buckshot.
Besides which, while ricochet is a danger, it's almost impossible for the shooter (vs. bystanders at a significant angle, even though the same distance) to get seriously injured, much less killed, by ricochet at any practical range.
Yeah, standing over your monitor and plugging it repeatedly while yelling "Die, Motherfucking Dumbass!
" has a decent chance of causing the real motherfucking dumbass a hospital trip, but you could blast it from 5 meters all day and never get hit with a ricochet, and 15 meters is downright safe.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317956</id>
	<title>Parts</title>
	<author>bruns</author>
	<datestamp>1259840940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where I am, there's a local surplus store that does robot workshops once or twice a month.  Most of the motors, gears, etc come from scrap printers - they'll pile them out back, and recruit the kids and adults in the workship to rip them apart and collect the parts they need.  Whats left over, is sent off for scrap/recycling.</p><p>Not only does it help teach the kids how to build things, but they learn the value of salvage and reusing components.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where I am , there 's a local surplus store that does robot workshops once or twice a month .
Most of the motors , gears , etc come from scrap printers - they 'll pile them out back , and recruit the kids and adults in the workship to rip them apart and collect the parts they need .
Whats left over , is sent off for scrap/recycling.Not only does it help teach the kids how to build things , but they learn the value of salvage and reusing components .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where I am, there's a local surplus store that does robot workshops once or twice a month.
Most of the motors, gears, etc come from scrap printers - they'll pile them out back, and recruit the kids and adults in the workship to rip them apart and collect the parts they need.
Whats left over, is sent off for scrap/recycling.Not only does it help teach the kids how to build things, but they learn the value of salvage and reusing components.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317290</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>Recovery1</author>
	<datestamp>1259838360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oddly enough that really isn't as satisfying as you would think it would be. I took my old monitors and computers out to 'the pit' on some private farm land I owned. Using a shotgun was a little risky because of the potential of those pellets scattering and bouncing back when hitting metal parts. It's also too limited in range to use from a distance and I would rather not die from something as stupid as destroying old equipment. That left longbarrels like rifles. Those bullets just leave holes and do no further damage (Though one of the CRT tubes imploded when they were hit and took out much of the monitor.)</p><p>I next tried pouring my equipment with gasoline because of its high combustibility and hoped the bullets would collide with metal and create sparks. It doesn't work that well. Those scenes in the movies where the cars always explode after shooting the gas tanks--not as easy to do in reality as you would think. So imagine trying it on old electronics.</p><p>In the end the best two plans are to rig it with explosives or do the good old Office Space scene by taking a baseball bat to the office copier in a field. Not only do you feel more invigorated at letting off some steam at the copier but you will leave feeling much more satisfied. Just be wary of the flyback transformers in these old CRTs. Make sure they have been discharged before you mess with destroying monitors via the Office Space route.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oddly enough that really is n't as satisfying as you would think it would be .
I took my old monitors and computers out to 'the pit ' on some private farm land I owned .
Using a shotgun was a little risky because of the potential of those pellets scattering and bouncing back when hitting metal parts .
It 's also too limited in range to use from a distance and I would rather not die from something as stupid as destroying old equipment .
That left longbarrels like rifles .
Those bullets just leave holes and do no further damage ( Though one of the CRT tubes imploded when they were hit and took out much of the monitor .
) I next tried pouring my equipment with gasoline because of its high combustibility and hoped the bullets would collide with metal and create sparks .
It does n't work that well .
Those scenes in the movies where the cars always explode after shooting the gas tanks--not as easy to do in reality as you would think .
So imagine trying it on old electronics.In the end the best two plans are to rig it with explosives or do the good old Office Space scene by taking a baseball bat to the office copier in a field .
Not only do you feel more invigorated at letting off some steam at the copier but you will leave feeling much more satisfied .
Just be wary of the flyback transformers in these old CRTs .
Make sure they have been discharged before you mess with destroying monitors via the Office Space route .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oddly enough that really isn't as satisfying as you would think it would be.
I took my old monitors and computers out to 'the pit' on some private farm land I owned.
Using a shotgun was a little risky because of the potential of those pellets scattering and bouncing back when hitting metal parts.
It's also too limited in range to use from a distance and I would rather not die from something as stupid as destroying old equipment.
That left longbarrels like rifles.
Those bullets just leave holes and do no further damage (Though one of the CRT tubes imploded when they were hit and took out much of the monitor.
)I next tried pouring my equipment with gasoline because of its high combustibility and hoped the bullets would collide with metal and create sparks.
It doesn't work that well.
Those scenes in the movies where the cars always explode after shooting the gas tanks--not as easy to do in reality as you would think.
So imagine trying it on old electronics.In the end the best two plans are to rig it with explosives or do the good old Office Space scene by taking a baseball bat to the office copier in a field.
Not only do you feel more invigorated at letting off some steam at the copier but you will leave feeling much more satisfied.
Just be wary of the flyback transformers in these old CRTs.
Make sure they have been discharged before you mess with destroying monitors via the Office Space route.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316654</id>
	<title>Recycle...</title>
	<author>sllim</author>
	<datestamp>1259836380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Find a group that will recycle the printer for you.<br>Where I live there is a group called <a href="http://www.freegeek.org/" title="freegeek.org">http://www.freegeek.org/</a> [freegeek.org] that will take the printer off your hands, break it down, recycle it and fund the groups activities with the money made from recycling.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Find a group that will recycle the printer for you.Where I live there is a group called http : //www.freegeek.org/ [ freegeek.org ] that will take the printer off your hands , break it down , recycle it and fund the groups activities with the money made from recycling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Find a group that will recycle the printer for you.Where I live there is a group called http://www.freegeek.org/ [freegeek.org] that will take the printer off your hands, break it down, recycle it and fund the groups activities with the money made from recycling.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318140</id>
	<title>Lasers...</title>
	<author>Joce640k</author>
	<datestamp>1259841780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Plus with a laser you just switch on and print. No head cleaning<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... watching an inkjet drain all six cartridges just because *one* color is blocked is truly depressing (and I don't believe for half a second that it's necessary).</p><p>After owning a laser for a few months I would NEVER go back to inkjets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Plus with a laser you just switch on and print .
No head cleaning ... watching an inkjet drain all six cartridges just because * one * color is blocked is truly depressing ( and I do n't believe for half a second that it 's necessary ) .After owning a laser for a few months I would NEVER go back to inkjets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plus with a laser you just switch on and print.
No head cleaning ... watching an inkjet drain all six cartridges just because *one* color is blocked is truly depressing (and I don't believe for half a second that it's necessary).After owning a laser for a few months I would NEVER go back to inkjets.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319608</id>
	<title>Re:Don't buy inkjets period</title>
	<author>Phoobarnvaz</author>
	<datestamp>1259850120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bought a replacement Laser printer at one of the big box office stores for $59. When the replacement cart needs to be replaced...just $45. For the cost...I will replace the printer with a new one by the time the drum needs to be replaced.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bought a replacement Laser printer at one of the big box office stores for $ 59 .
When the replacement cart needs to be replaced...just $ 45 .
For the cost...I will replace the printer with a new one by the time the drum needs to be replaced .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bought a replacement Laser printer at one of the big box office stores for $59.
When the replacement cart needs to be replaced...just $45.
For the cost...I will replace the printer with a new one by the time the drum needs to be replaced.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30325810</id>
	<title>Let us know if you find a good answer</title>
	<author>gravis777</author>
	<datestamp>1259951460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know, one of the problems with ask slashdot, especially if you get on a story shortly after its been posted, is a lot of times, I miss if a good answer was ever found. No I hear you dude, I am running into this issue a lot myself. Epson has gotten to where they chip their cartrages now, so generics are practically illegal unless and you end up having to get them imported. The problem is, Epson constantly changes their cartraige standard. If your printer is over a year old, you practically can no longer find cartrages for it, and if you do, they are freakin expensive.</p><p>I have gotten to where I keep my epson stylus cx6000 around simply because its a great scanner and useful as a card reader, but I cannot find ink for this thing hardly anywhere. I started getting cheap printers for around $40 that I use for my every day printing, and just throwing them out by the curb when the cartrages go bad and getting new printer. Talk about a huge carbon footprint I am leaving.</p><p>Usually, if I need to print documents or something, I will either do it at work or church, and for pictures, I just send them off to CVS or Walmart as the quality is better, and its MUCH cheaper than printing at home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , one of the problems with ask slashdot , especially if you get on a story shortly after its been posted , is a lot of times , I miss if a good answer was ever found .
No I hear you dude , I am running into this issue a lot myself .
Epson has gotten to where they chip their cartrages now , so generics are practically illegal unless and you end up having to get them imported .
The problem is , Epson constantly changes their cartraige standard .
If your printer is over a year old , you practically can no longer find cartrages for it , and if you do , they are freakin expensive.I have gotten to where I keep my epson stylus cx6000 around simply because its a great scanner and useful as a card reader , but I can not find ink for this thing hardly anywhere .
I started getting cheap printers for around $ 40 that I use for my every day printing , and just throwing them out by the curb when the cartrages go bad and getting new printer .
Talk about a huge carbon footprint I am leaving.Usually , if I need to print documents or something , I will either do it at work or church , and for pictures , I just send them off to CVS or Walmart as the quality is better , and its MUCH cheaper than printing at home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, one of the problems with ask slashdot, especially if you get on a story shortly after its been posted, is a lot of times, I miss if a good answer was ever found.
No I hear you dude, I am running into this issue a lot myself.
Epson has gotten to where they chip their cartrages now, so generics are practically illegal unless and you end up having to get them imported.
The problem is, Epson constantly changes their cartraige standard.
If your printer is over a year old, you practically can no longer find cartrages for it, and if you do, they are freakin expensive.I have gotten to where I keep my epson stylus cx6000 around simply because its a great scanner and useful as a card reader, but I cannot find ink for this thing hardly anywhere.
I started getting cheap printers for around $40 that I use for my every day printing, and just throwing them out by the curb when the cartrages go bad and getting new printer.
Talk about a huge carbon footprint I am leaving.Usually, if I need to print documents or something, I will either do it at work or church, and for pictures, I just send them off to CVS or Walmart as the quality is better, and its MUCH cheaper than printing at home.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319632</id>
	<title>Use Storage</title>
	<author>falken0905</author>
	<datestamp>1259850300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I put all of my used electronics in the large green metal storage box in the parking lot.
That way if I need one or more items in the future I can just call the number on the big
box and I assume someone comes out and retrieves it for me. The box seems to have an almost
infinite storage capacity so it seems like a better plan than just throwing the stuff out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I put all of my used electronics in the large green metal storage box in the parking lot .
That way if I need one or more items in the future I can just call the number on the big box and I assume someone comes out and retrieves it for me .
The box seems to have an almost infinite storage capacity so it seems like a better plan than just throwing the stuff out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I put all of my used electronics in the large green metal storage box in the parking lot.
That way if I need one or more items in the future I can just call the number on the big
box and I assume someone comes out and retrieves it for me.
The box seems to have an almost
infinite storage capacity so it seems like a better plan than just throwing the stuff out.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316828</id>
	<title>Go Paperless.</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1259836920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was a great idea back in the 90's and we've almost changed enough to pull it off!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was a great idea back in the 90 's and we 've almost changed enough to pull it off !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was a great idea back in the 90's and we've almost changed enough to pull it off!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316920</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259837160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&amp;N=2010330630+1614340409&amp;QksAutoSuggestion=&amp;ShowDeactivatedMark=False&amp;Configurator=&amp;Subcategory=630&amp;description=&amp;Ntk=&amp;CFG=&amp;SpeTabStoreType=&amp;srchInDesc=" title="newegg.com" rel="nofollow">So what's the problem?</a> [newegg.com]</p><p>It's like you think they don't make colour laser printers or something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So what 's the problem ?
[ newegg.com ] It 's like you think they do n't make colour laser printers or something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what's the problem?
[newegg.com]It's like you think they don't make colour laser printers or something.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316776</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30331016</id>
	<title>re. "build a project using discarded printers"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259931720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>koff RepStrap<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/koff</p><p>best sort for this are defunct HP All in One "bricks as the rails and head blocks are pretty standard.</p><p>Doesen't have to be pretty, and the existing positioning hardware is able to achieve resolutions of fractions of a mm with minimal effort.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>koff RepStrap /koffbest sort for this are defunct HP All in One " bricks as the rails and head blocks are pretty standard.Doese n't have to be pretty , and the existing positioning hardware is able to achieve resolutions of fractions of a mm with minimal effort .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>koff RepStrap /koffbest sort for this are defunct HP All in One "bricks as the rails and head blocks are pretty standard.Doesen't have to be pretty, and the existing positioning hardware is able to achieve resolutions of fractions of a mm with minimal effort.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316472</id>
	<title>Simple!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259835960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just put the old printer in the new printer's box, tape it up, and return it. Now that's what I call recycling your e-waste!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just put the old printer in the new printer 's box , tape it up , and return it .
Now that 's what I call recycling your e-waste !
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just put the old printer in the new printer's box, tape it up, and return it.
Now that's what I call recycling your e-waste!
;)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317276</id>
	<title>Re:The old fashioned way</title>
	<author>dkf</author>
	<datestamp>1259838360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I refill my 4-color printer with Blood, Sweat and Tears (4th bodily fluid "redacted" as this is a family site).</p></div><p>Bile isn't that disgusting in itself.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I refill my 4-color printer with Blood , Sweat and Tears ( 4th bodily fluid " redacted " as this is a family site ) .Bile is n't that disgusting in itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I refill my 4-color printer with Blood, Sweat and Tears (4th bodily fluid "redacted" as this is a family site).Bile isn't that disgusting in itself.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317718</id>
	<title>Alternative recycling</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259839860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Check with local schools.  The one my girlfriend works at has a program where they take donated broken small appliances and let the students dismantle them to explore how they work.  Once all the learning's been had out of an appliance, the parts are either given to the art department or to a local recycling depot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Check with local schools .
The one my girlfriend works at has a program where they take donated broken small appliances and let the students dismantle them to explore how they work .
Once all the learning 's been had out of an appliance , the parts are either given to the art department or to a local recycling depot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check with local schools.
The one my girlfriend works at has a program where they take donated broken small appliances and let the students dismantle them to explore how they work.
Once all the learning's been had out of an appliance, the parts are either given to the art department or to a local recycling depot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316416</id>
	<title>Cheap Printer?</title>
	<author>nametaken</author>
	<datestamp>1259835780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Make sure the new printer comes with FULL carts, not the half-or-less carts they often box with the printer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Make sure the new printer comes with FULL carts , not the half-or-less carts they often box with the printer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make sure the new printer comes with FULL carts, not the half-or-less carts they often box with the printer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320454</id>
	<title>Re:The old fashioned way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259857380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>are those 4 bodily fluids cyan yellow magenta and black?<br>if so you may need to see a doctor</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>are those 4 bodily fluids cyan yellow magenta and black ? if so you may need to see a doctor</tokentext>
<sentencetext>are those 4 bodily fluids cyan yellow magenta and black?if so you may need to see a doctor</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320324</id>
	<title>Pssssst Wanna buy a printer I have lots to sell.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259856240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Buying a whole new printer with camera and ink is cheaper than buying the refill ink cartridge. LOL!</p><p>Fsck<nobr> <wbr></nobr>./<br>Bad<nobr> <wbr></nobr>./</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Buying a whole new printer with camera and ink is cheaper than buying the refill ink cartridge .
LOL ! Fsck ./Bad ./</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Buying a whole new printer with camera and ink is cheaper than buying the refill ink cartridge.
LOL!Fsck ./Bad ./</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317430</id>
	<title>Re:Cheap Printer?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259838900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember reading maybe about 10-15 years ago that Epson's stated aim was to make printers cheap enough to be disposable commodities so that it was more economic to buy a new printer than new ink.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember reading maybe about 10-15 years ago that Epson 's stated aim was to make printers cheap enough to be disposable commodities so that it was more economic to buy a new printer than new ink .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember reading maybe about 10-15 years ago that Epson's stated aim was to make printers cheap enough to be disposable commodities so that it was more economic to buy a new printer than new ink.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316416</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319360</id>
	<title>Modern inkjets are fine</title>
	<author>snowwrestler</author>
	<datestamp>1259848080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A mid-range or high-end recent inkjet will produce very high quality photo prints. Many professional photographers use inkjets to produce their fine art prints for sale. The best inkjets have a color saturation and sharpness that is superior to dye sub, with droplet size small enough that it takes a strong loupe to distinguish. Most people have trouble with inkjets because they buy cheap inkjets.</p><p>That said, the biggest argument against them is the frequency of use. You do have to use an inkjet to keep it in fine printing condition.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A mid-range or high-end recent inkjet will produce very high quality photo prints .
Many professional photographers use inkjets to produce their fine art prints for sale .
The best inkjets have a color saturation and sharpness that is superior to dye sub , with droplet size small enough that it takes a strong loupe to distinguish .
Most people have trouble with inkjets because they buy cheap inkjets.That said , the biggest argument against them is the frequency of use .
You do have to use an inkjet to keep it in fine printing condition .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A mid-range or high-end recent inkjet will produce very high quality photo prints.
Many professional photographers use inkjets to produce their fine art prints for sale.
The best inkjets have a color saturation and sharpness that is superior to dye sub, with droplet size small enough that it takes a strong loupe to distinguish.
Most people have trouble with inkjets because they buy cheap inkjets.That said, the biggest argument against them is the frequency of use.
You do have to use an inkjet to keep it in fine printing condition.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317086</id>
	<title>Less hating...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259837700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>more throwing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>more throwing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>more throwing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322682</id>
	<title>Dye-subs</title>
	<author>Michael Meissner</author>
	<datestamp>1259934780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The problems with dye-subs is the print will last maybe 10 years (according to Wilhelm).  That's great for a picture that you will hang on your refrigerator for a while and then be replaced, but not as good for something that will last longer.  Another problem is because the ink and paper come as a kit, you don't have much choice as to the paper, and likely there will be no clone versions of the ink/paper combinations, and when the manufacturer stops making it, you need to replace the printer.  Dye-subs are great for things like photo setups at festivals, where you want something that can do print after print for fixed costs all day long, and the photo is immediately protected against the elements.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problems with dye-subs is the print will last maybe 10 years ( according to Wilhelm ) .
That 's great for a picture that you will hang on your refrigerator for a while and then be replaced , but not as good for something that will last longer .
Another problem is because the ink and paper come as a kit , you do n't have much choice as to the paper , and likely there will be no clone versions of the ink/paper combinations , and when the manufacturer stops making it , you need to replace the printer .
Dye-subs are great for things like photo setups at festivals , where you want something that can do print after print for fixed costs all day long , and the photo is immediately protected against the elements .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problems with dye-subs is the print will last maybe 10 years (according to Wilhelm).
That's great for a picture that you will hang on your refrigerator for a while and then be replaced, but not as good for something that will last longer.
Another problem is because the ink and paper come as a kit, you don't have much choice as to the paper, and likely there will be no clone versions of the ink/paper combinations, and when the manufacturer stops making it, you need to replace the printer.
Dye-subs are great for things like photo setups at festivals, where you want something that can do print after print for fixed costs all day long, and the photo is immediately protected against the elements.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30344502</id>
	<title>Look at business targeted inkjets.</title>
	<author>infosinger</author>
	<datestamp>1260126900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is true that the lower end inkjets overwhelming make their profits via supplies and cost per page is not overly competitive (as in NOT).  It is also true that the higher end business inkjet products are designed for low cost per page.  They generally have longer life print heads and larger ink supplies.  There have been some claims in the marketplace that these higher end products can have lower cost per page than equivalent color laserjets.  However, if you just need monochrome there are some inexpensive laserjets that can't be beat when you look at overall cost of ownership.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is true that the lower end inkjets overwhelming make their profits via supplies and cost per page is not overly competitive ( as in NOT ) .
It is also true that the higher end business inkjet products are designed for low cost per page .
They generally have longer life print heads and larger ink supplies .
There have been some claims in the marketplace that these higher end products can have lower cost per page than equivalent color laserjets .
However , if you just need monochrome there are some inexpensive laserjets that ca n't be beat when you look at overall cost of ownership .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is true that the lower end inkjets overwhelming make their profits via supplies and cost per page is not overly competitive (as in NOT).
It is also true that the higher end business inkjet products are designed for low cost per page.
They generally have longer life print heads and larger ink supplies.
There have been some claims in the marketplace that these higher end products can have lower cost per page than equivalent color laserjets.
However, if you just need monochrome there are some inexpensive laserjets that can't be beat when you look at overall cost of ownership.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320664</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space re-enactment</title>
	<author>Buelldozer</author>
	<datestamp>1259859000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Substitute "bashing" with "shooting" and I'm there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Substitute " bashing " with " shooting " and I 'm there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Substitute "bashing" with "shooting" and I'm there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316458</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320042</id>
	<title>Re:Don't buy inkjets period</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259853540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It looks as good or better than from professional print shop.</p></div><p>Then you got some pretty ShI*** Print Shops in your area. I'm a Graphic Designer and I can spot a laser knock off from 20 feet. Yes color lasers are OK for presentation but anything else no thanks.  They are HORRID are printing colors corectly.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks as good or better than from professional print shop.Then you got some pretty ShI * * * Print Shops in your area .
I 'm a Graphic Designer and I can spot a laser knock off from 20 feet .
Yes color lasers are OK for presentation but anything else no thanks .
They are HORRID are printing colors corectly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks as good or better than from professional print shop.Then you got some pretty ShI*** Print Shops in your area.
I'm a Graphic Designer and I can spot a laser knock off from 20 feet.
Yes color lasers are OK for presentation but anything else no thanks.
They are HORRID are printing colors corectly.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321968</id>
	<title>Send it back</title>
	<author>MemoryDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1259920980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Send it back to the manufacturer with an explanation, I am sure this will stir some corporate uproar internally and no one will know what to do with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Send it back to the manufacturer with an explanation , I am sure this will stir some corporate uproar internally and no one will know what to do with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Send it back to the manufacturer with an explanation, I am sure this will stir some corporate uproar internally and no one will know what to do with it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30328780</id>
	<title>Re:Convert it to continuous feed inktanks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259920800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>HP Does make a pro inkjet* with this type of feature. The mobile ink cart fills off a set of bigger carts, I susped it would be mechanically trivial to add an external tank feature to this printer.</p><p>*Business inkjet 2800 is what I saw with this feature.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>HP Does make a pro inkjet * with this type of feature .
The mobile ink cart fills off a set of bigger carts , I susped it would be mechanically trivial to add an external tank feature to this printer .
* Business inkjet 2800 is what I saw with this feature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HP Does make a pro inkjet* with this type of feature.
The mobile ink cart fills off a set of bigger carts, I susped it would be mechanically trivial to add an external tank feature to this printer.
*Business inkjet 2800 is what I saw with this feature.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318132</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318636</id>
	<title>RRI</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259844180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps try Rapid Refill Ink?<br>I ran low on both color and black ink for my printer a few days ago. Buying them from HP, Bestbuy, etc would have cost about $55 + tax, with Rapid Refill it only ran about $35 after tax. Just remember to bring in the old cartridges and they swap them for filled ones right in the store.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps try Rapid Refill Ink ? I ran low on both color and black ink for my printer a few days ago .
Buying them from HP , Bestbuy , etc would have cost about $ 55 + tax , with Rapid Refill it only ran about $ 35 after tax .
Just remember to bring in the old cartridges and they swap them for filled ones right in the store .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps try Rapid Refill Ink?I ran low on both color and black ink for my printer a few days ago.
Buying them from HP, Bestbuy, etc would have cost about $55 + tax, with Rapid Refill it only ran about $35 after tax.
Just remember to bring in the old cartridges and they swap them for filled ones right in the store.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318930</id>
	<title>CISS</title>
	<author>Jeremi</author>
	<datestamp>1259845800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One option for those who have an inkjet printer and don't want to keep buying new ink cartridges is to buy a <a href="http://www.macroenter.com/Continuous\_Ink\_Systems\_s/504.htm" title="macroenter.com">continuous ink resupply system</a> [macroenter.com] and some bottles of ink, instead.  I did that, it works, although it can be messy if you're not careful with the ink bottles.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One option for those who have an inkjet printer and do n't want to keep buying new ink cartridges is to buy a continuous ink resupply system [ macroenter.com ] and some bottles of ink , instead .
I did that , it works , although it can be messy if you 're not careful with the ink bottles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One option for those who have an inkjet printer and don't want to keep buying new ink cartridges is to buy a continuous ink resupply system [macroenter.com] and some bottles of ink, instead.
I did that, it works, although it can be messy if you're not careful with the ink bottles.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321692</id>
	<title>My solution</title>
	<author>JDLWL</author>
	<datestamp>1259959680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>See, this is why I keep my own squid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>See , this is why I keep my own squid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See, this is why I keep my own squid.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318438</id>
	<title>Buy a Brothers Printer</title>
	<author>shellster\_dude</author>
	<datestamp>1259843160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Best decision I ever made.  The cartridges are broken down by color, under $5 a piece, and easily refillable.  Not only that, but the printers are dirt cheap and work in all Operating systems, even *nix.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Best decision I ever made .
The cartridges are broken down by color , under $ 5 a piece , and easily refillable .
Not only that , but the printers are dirt cheap and work in all Operating systems , even * nix .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Best decision I ever made.
The cartridges are broken down by color, under $5 a piece, and easily refillable.
Not only that, but the printers are dirt cheap and work in all Operating systems, even *nix.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317800</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space re-enactment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259840220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then get arrested for littering!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then get arrested for littering !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then get arrested for littering!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316458</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30323986</id>
	<title>why even ask?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259943600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You obviously don't care that you created the ewaste, otherwise you would've paid the extra money for the ink.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You obviously do n't care that you created the ewaste , otherwise you would 've paid the extra money for the ink .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You obviously don't care that you created the ewaste, otherwise you would've paid the extra money for the ink.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320446</id>
	<title>Re:Convert it to continuous feed inktanks</title>
	<author>ChrisMaple</author>
	<datestamp>1259857380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Inkjet printers with feeds from large tanks exist. Be prepared to pay several thousand dollars for one. They're designed to make large prints, a yard wide or more.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Inkjet printers with feeds from large tanks exist .
Be prepared to pay several thousand dollars for one .
They 're designed to make large prints , a yard wide or more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Inkjet printers with feeds from large tanks exist.
Be prepared to pay several thousand dollars for one.
They're designed to make large prints, a yard wide or more.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318132</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316418</id>
	<title>Office Space</title>
	<author>jimbolauski</author>
	<datestamp>1259835780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>All you need is a bat</htmltext>
<tokenext>All you need is a bat</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All you need is a bat</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321522</id>
	<title>Regulation?</title>
	<author>bradley13</author>
	<datestamp>1259870040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Much as I am a fan of small government, the government does have a duty to regulate the market. How about a general regulation that prohibits a standard sales price that is less than the manufacturing cost of the product? I.e., no loss-leaders. It's pretty clear that the printer manufacturers are selling the printers at a loss, planning to make it up in ink sales. If they sold the printers at a fair price, the markets both for printers and for ink would be less distorted.

</p><p>For what it's worth, I second the earlier vote for HP lasers. However, be careful: HP has a mid-line of devices (such as the CM2320) that they have gutted. Although marketed as network printers, they are intimitely tied to a PC - they cannot process anything themselves. They rely entirely on the processor in the PC for everything - even scanning a picture! There are dirty tricks even in the laser printer market...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Much as I am a fan of small government , the government does have a duty to regulate the market .
How about a general regulation that prohibits a standard sales price that is less than the manufacturing cost of the product ?
I.e. , no loss-leaders .
It 's pretty clear that the printer manufacturers are selling the printers at a loss , planning to make it up in ink sales .
If they sold the printers at a fair price , the markets both for printers and for ink would be less distorted .
For what it 's worth , I second the earlier vote for HP lasers .
However , be careful : HP has a mid-line of devices ( such as the CM2320 ) that they have gutted .
Although marketed as network printers , they are intimitely tied to a PC - they can not process anything themselves .
They rely entirely on the processor in the PC for everything - even scanning a picture !
There are dirty tricks even in the laser printer market.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Much as I am a fan of small government, the government does have a duty to regulate the market.
How about a general regulation that prohibits a standard sales price that is less than the manufacturing cost of the product?
I.e., no loss-leaders.
It's pretty clear that the printer manufacturers are selling the printers at a loss, planning to make it up in ink sales.
If they sold the printers at a fair price, the markets both for printers and for ink would be less distorted.
For what it's worth, I second the earlier vote for HP lasers.
However, be careful: HP has a mid-line of devices (such as the CM2320) that they have gutted.
Although marketed as network printers, they are intimitely tied to a PC - they cannot process anything themselves.
They rely entirely on the processor in the PC for everything - even scanning a picture!
There are dirty tricks even in the laser printer market...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30326242</id>
	<title>Use 3rd party from online vendors</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259953380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Use 3rd party ink from online vendors... MUCH CHEAPER. www.inkjetcartridges.com. Don't worry i dont work there and not spamming slashdot. I've bought from there and had good results.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Use 3rd party ink from online vendors... MUCH CHEAPER .
www.inkjetcartridges.com. Do n't worry i dont work there and not spamming slashdot .
I 've bought from there and had good results .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use 3rd party ink from online vendors... MUCH CHEAPER.
www.inkjetcartridges.com. Don't worry i dont work there and not spamming slashdot.
I've bought from there and had good results.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318500</id>
	<title>Target practice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259843400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was playing left for dead last night and in one of the safe rooms there was a laser printer.  I emptied about 8 magazines from the pistols into the thing before engaging the undead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was playing left for dead last night and in one of the safe rooms there was a laser printer .
I emptied about 8 magazines from the pistols into the thing before engaging the undead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was playing left for dead last night and in one of the safe rooms there was a laser printer.
I emptied about 8 magazines from the pistols into the thing before engaging the undead.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318890</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>samkass</author>
	<datestamp>1259845560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just looked around to try and verify this.</p><p>The best-rated color laser printer under $1000 is the Dell 3130cn.  It costs $350, but Dell offers a $150 mail-in rebate right now for about $200.  Not bad.  But 1K page ink cartridges cost $50 for black and $65 for each of Cyan, Magenta, and Yellow.  That's a little under $0.25 a page if my math is correct.</p><p>My current HP OfficeJet Pro K5400 costed me $130 a couple years ago, and costs $51 for a 2400-page black and $27 each for a ~1700-1800 page C, M and Y.  That's less than $0.10 per page.</p><p>Everyone else on here seems to be having different results than me.  What am I missing?<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just looked around to try and verify this.The best-rated color laser printer under $ 1000 is the Dell 3130cn .
It costs $ 350 , but Dell offers a $ 150 mail-in rebate right now for about $ 200 .
Not bad .
But 1K page ink cartridges cost $ 50 for black and $ 65 for each of Cyan , Magenta , and Yellow .
That 's a little under $ 0.25 a page if my math is correct.My current HP OfficeJet Pro K5400 costed me $ 130 a couple years ago , and costs $ 51 for a 2400-page black and $ 27 each for a ~ 1700-1800 page C , M and Y. That 's less than $ 0.10 per page.Everyone else on here seems to be having different results than me .
What am I missing ?
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just looked around to try and verify this.The best-rated color laser printer under $1000 is the Dell 3130cn.
It costs $350, but Dell offers a $150 mail-in rebate right now for about $200.
Not bad.
But 1K page ink cartridges cost $50 for black and $65 for each of Cyan, Magenta, and Yellow.
That's a little under $0.25 a page if my math is correct.My current HP OfficeJet Pro K5400 costed me $130 a couple years ago, and costs $51 for a 2400-page black and $27 each for a ~1700-1800 page C, M and Y.  That's less than $0.10 per page.Everyone else on here seems to be having different results than me.
What am I missing?
 </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322998</id>
	<title>What Do You Do When Printers Cost Less Than Ink?</title>
	<author>jerome22</author>
	<datestamp>1259937720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>check on google an look for <a href="http://couponsdeals2u.com/" title="couponsdeals2u.com" rel="nofollow">deals</a> [couponsdeals2u.com]
its great for save money</htmltext>
<tokenext>check on google an look for deals [ couponsdeals2u.com ] its great for save money</tokentext>
<sentencetext>check on google an look for deals [couponsdeals2u.com]
its great for save money</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316520</id>
	<title>The old fashioned way</title>
	<author>srussia</author>
	<datestamp>1259836020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I refill my 4-color printer with Blood, Sweat and Tears (4th bodily fluid "redacted" as this is a family site).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I refill my 4-color printer with Blood , Sweat and Tears ( 4th bodily fluid " redacted " as this is a family site ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I refill my 4-color printer with Blood, Sweat and Tears (4th bodily fluid "redacted" as this is a family site).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321572</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space re-enactment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259957220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The slight flaw in this plan is that there won't be much to upload once the camera is in bits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The slight flaw in this plan is that there wo n't be much to upload once the camera is in bits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The slight flaw in this plan is that there won't be much to upload once the camera is in bits.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316458</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316614</id>
	<title>I Second this</title>
	<author>DrYak</author>
	<datestamp>1259836260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The best course of action for this sort of thing is prevention. Keep consumables prices in mind when buying hardware in the first place, get a decent laser printer</p> </div><p>Indeed. Laser might have higher upfront cost, but tend to cost a lot less per page.<br>And also, tend to be much more compatible : they simply accept good-old PostScript. (PostScript over Network is the must in terms of compatibility).<br>Thus you don't need to hunt for drivers every time Microsoft decide to change driver model or when attempting to switch to Linux.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The best course of action for this sort of thing is prevention .
Keep consumables prices in mind when buying hardware in the first place , get a decent laser printer Indeed .
Laser might have higher upfront cost , but tend to cost a lot less per page.And also , tend to be much more compatible : they simply accept good-old PostScript .
( PostScript over Network is the must in terms of compatibility ) .Thus you do n't need to hunt for drivers every time Microsoft decide to change driver model or when attempting to switch to Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The best course of action for this sort of thing is prevention.
Keep consumables prices in mind when buying hardware in the first place, get a decent laser printer Indeed.
Laser might have higher upfront cost, but tend to cost a lot less per page.And also, tend to be much more compatible : they simply accept good-old PostScript.
(PostScript over Network is the must in terms of compatibility).Thus you don't need to hunt for drivers every time Microsoft decide to change driver model or when attempting to switch to Linux.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316420</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318470</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>digitalhermit</author>
	<datestamp>1259843280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>And also, tend to be much more compatible : they simply accept good-old PostScript. </i></p><p>Some do.. most don't.</p><p>I have an HP LaserJet 2600n which uses something that's not quite the HP page description language and not PS. To use it in Linux requires downloading third-party drivers and building them. As of today none of the major distributions supports it with the packaged drivers (CUPS, gimp-print, etc..).  It partially works on MacOS, but printing across subnets doesn't work. It mostly works on Windows XP/Vista/7, but drivers for 64-bit Vista/7 took months to appear.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And also , tend to be much more compatible : they simply accept good-old PostScript .
Some do.. most do n't.I have an HP LaserJet 2600n which uses something that 's not quite the HP page description language and not PS .
To use it in Linux requires downloading third-party drivers and building them .
As of today none of the major distributions supports it with the packaged drivers ( CUPS , gimp-print , etc.. ) .
It partially works on MacOS , but printing across subnets does n't work .
It mostly works on Windows XP/Vista/7 , but drivers for 64-bit Vista/7 took months to appear .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And also, tend to be much more compatible : they simply accept good-old PostScript.
Some do.. most don't.I have an HP LaserJet 2600n which uses something that's not quite the HP page description language and not PS.
To use it in Linux requires downloading third-party drivers and building them.
As of today none of the major distributions supports it with the packaged drivers (CUPS, gimp-print, etc..).
It partially works on MacOS, but printing across subnets doesn't work.
It mostly works on Windows XP/Vista/7, but drivers for 64-bit Vista/7 took months to appear.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317472</id>
	<title>Give it away at freecycle</title>
	<author>lostkeyes</author>
	<datestamp>1259839020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Freecycle.org http://freecycle.org/ is a great way to give any gear away.  Each city has their own group.  It sends out alerts and people respond.  Most of the time they will come pick up the equipment from you as long as it still works.  I know that a lot of under served schools in my area use the service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Freecycle.org http : //freecycle.org/ is a great way to give any gear away .
Each city has their own group .
It sends out alerts and people respond .
Most of the time they will come pick up the equipment from you as long as it still works .
I know that a lot of under served schools in my area use the service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Freecycle.org http://freecycle.org/ is a great way to give any gear away.
Each city has their own group.
It sends out alerts and people respond.
Most of the time they will come pick up the equipment from you as long as it still works.
I know that a lot of under served schools in my area use the service.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320908</id>
	<title>PC LOAD LETTER</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259862120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.</p></div><p>Agreed, but people will pay for it. Fiorina drove HP into the ground by drooling over short term profits from ink while neglecting the core business that had made HP great 20 years ago.</p><p>R.I.P. Hewlett-Packard. We will miss you.</p><p>-Former HP employee</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.Agreed , but people will pay for it .
Fiorina drove HP into the ground by drooling over short term profits from ink while neglecting the core business that had made HP great 20 years ago.R.I.P .
Hewlett-Packard. We will miss you.-Former HP employee</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.Agreed, but people will pay for it.
Fiorina drove HP into the ground by drooling over short term profits from ink while neglecting the core business that had made HP great 20 years ago.R.I.P.
Hewlett-Packard. We will miss you.-Former HP employee
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319640</id>
	<title>Re:Support Kodak's printers send the others a mess</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259850420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Epson used to do this (maybe they still do). The problem is that the print heads can dry up and stop working, or just fail, when this happens the printer is useless. With other inkjet printers you get a new head each time you change the cartridge.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Epson used to do this ( maybe they still do ) .
The problem is that the print heads can dry up and stop working , or just fail , when this happens the printer is useless .
With other inkjet printers you get a new head each time you change the cartridge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Epson used to do this (maybe they still do).
The problem is that the print heads can dry up and stop working, or just fail, when this happens the printer is useless.
With other inkjet printers you get a new head each time you change the cartridge.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316820</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317284</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259838360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except the Microsoft approved printers that use some lame version of a printer language developed by Microsoft.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except the Microsoft approved printers that use some lame version of a printer language developed by Microsoft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except the Microsoft approved printers that use some lame version of a printer language developed by Microsoft.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317876</id>
	<title>Re:Support Kodak's printers send the others a mess</title>
	<author>TeknoHog</author>
	<datestamp>1259840580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Separate ink cartridges and print heads have the advantage of easy refilling. Monolithic cartridges are also fairly easy to refill if you know the drill (pun intended).
</p><p>
I am mostly interested in black and white printing, so I just refill with ordinary fountain pen ink, using a pipette or a syringe.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Separate ink cartridges and print heads have the advantage of easy refilling .
Monolithic cartridges are also fairly easy to refill if you know the drill ( pun intended ) .
I am mostly interested in black and white printing , so I just refill with ordinary fountain pen ink , using a pipette or a syringe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Separate ink cartridges and print heads have the advantage of easy refilling.
Monolithic cartridges are also fairly easy to refill if you know the drill (pun intended).
I am mostly interested in black and white printing, so I just refill with ordinary fountain pen ink, using a pipette or a syringe.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316820</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316506</id>
	<title>Usually only 33\% full</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The cartridges which are shipped with the printer usually aren't completely full. They are just the demo, basically.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The cartridges which are shipped with the printer usually are n't completely full .
They are just the demo , basically .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The cartridges which are shipped with the printer usually aren't completely full.
They are just the demo, basically.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321000</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259863140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One word: <a href="http://www.tannerite.com/" title="tannerite.com" rel="nofollow">Tannerite</a> [tannerite.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One word : Tannerite [ tannerite.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One word: Tannerite [tannerite.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30340340</id>
	<title>Recycling. . .possibly. . .</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260025020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All Fedex Kinkos (Fedex Offices in some markets now) Have a consumer electronic recycling box, that gets shipped out once it's full.  I don't know where it goes, nor do i care, all I know is that the box leaves once a week.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All Fedex Kinkos ( Fedex Offices in some markets now ) Have a consumer electronic recycling box , that gets shipped out once it 's full .
I do n't know where it goes , nor do i care , all I know is that the box leaves once a week .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All Fedex Kinkos (Fedex Offices in some markets now) Have a consumer electronic recycling box, that gets shipped out once it's full.
I don't know where it goes, nor do i care, all I know is that the box leaves once a week.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317234</id>
	<title>that's why in europe</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259838180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that's why in europe there are fakes which cost less than $30 and they are allot better than epson's own cardridges strangely enough...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that 's why in europe there are fakes which cost less than $ 30 and they are allot better than epson 's own cardridges strangely enough.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that's why in europe there are fakes which cost less than $30 and they are allot better than epson's own cardridges strangely enough...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317620</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Barny</author>
	<datestamp>1259839500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well from experience selling, setting up and using epsom printers, typically they do come with a full tank of cartridges, crazy concept I know, but thats one of the reasons we sell the damn things, another being they are one of the only printers on the market that come with a USB cable to hook them up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well from experience selling , setting up and using epsom printers , typically they do come with a full tank of cartridges , crazy concept I know , but thats one of the reasons we sell the damn things , another being they are one of the only printers on the market that come with a USB cable to hook them up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well from experience selling, setting up and using epsom printers, typically they do come with a full tank of cartridges, crazy concept I know, but thats one of the reasons we sell the damn things, another being they are one of the only printers on the market that come with a USB cable to hook them up.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30324166</id>
	<title>What kind of printer do you have at work?</title>
	<author>drainbramage</author>
	<datestamp>1259944500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For home use buy one that uses the same cartridge.<br>I learned that on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For home use buy one that uses the same cartridge.I learned that on / .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For home use buy one that uses the same cartridge.I learned that on /.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320730</id>
	<title>But the future is on its way!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259859840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>HP now has inkjet printers that have cartridges (940xl) that print ~2,200 pages for $35.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>HP now has inkjet printers that have cartridges ( 940xl ) that print ~ 2,200 pages for $ 35 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HP now has inkjet printers that have cartridges (940xl) that print ~2,200 pages for $35.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317594</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>wiredlogic</author>
	<datestamp>1259839380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The upfront cost can be zero if you find a perfectly good 10-year old or so laser printer on eBay. At that age you can get nice workgroup level printers for a steal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The upfront cost can be zero if you find a perfectly good 10-year old or so laser printer on eBay .
At that age you can get nice workgroup level printers for a steal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The upfront cost can be zero if you find a perfectly good 10-year old or so laser printer on eBay.
At that age you can get nice workgroup level printers for a steal.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317464</id>
	<title>Re:Printers don't come with (much) ink.</title>
	<author>Dutchy Wutchy</author>
	<datestamp>1259838960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Unfortunately, replacing the black and color ink cartridges costs $81.92 + tax at the local store! That so bad that I got a replacement printer that's just as good and spare ink for less. </p></div><p>Many other people brought this up, but if you read the OP you should notice that they did get replacement cartridges in addition to a printer.  Assuming old-printer-replacement cartridge and new-printer-replacement cartridge can print the same amount, then they were clearly taking the less expensive route.</p><p>Why failures at reading comprehension are awarded Informative and Insightful is beyond me...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , replacing the black and color ink cartridges costs $ 81.92 + tax at the local store !
That so bad that I got a replacement printer that 's just as good and spare ink for less .
Many other people brought this up , but if you read the OP you should notice that they did get replacement cartridges in addition to a printer .
Assuming old-printer-replacement cartridge and new-printer-replacement cartridge can print the same amount , then they were clearly taking the less expensive route.Why failures at reading comprehension are awarded Informative and Insightful is beyond me.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, replacing the black and color ink cartridges costs $81.92 + tax at the local store!
That so bad that I got a replacement printer that's just as good and spare ink for less.
Many other people brought this up, but if you read the OP you should notice that they did get replacement cartridges in addition to a printer.
Assuming old-printer-replacement cartridge and new-printer-replacement cartridge can print the same amount, then they were clearly taking the less expensive route.Why failures at reading comprehension are awarded Informative and Insightful is beyond me...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316446</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322008</id>
	<title>Re:Get yourself a color laser</title>
	<author>dargaud</author>
	<datestamp>1259921580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Am I the only one coming in defense of inkjets ? All the arguments against them I read above are indeed valid, but one thing that you can't do with a laser or dye-sub printer is print on artsy paper: glossy, matte, pearl, canvas, satin, high-gloss, luster, metallic, fiber, rag transparency, cardboard...
<p>
And in all cases for good photo prints, it's necessary to <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000XG52Y0?tag=guillaumedarg-20" title="amazon.com">calibrate it</a> [amazon.com]...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one coming in defense of inkjets ?
All the arguments against them I read above are indeed valid , but one thing that you ca n't do with a laser or dye-sub printer is print on artsy paper : glossy , matte , pearl , canvas , satin , high-gloss , luster , metallic , fiber , rag transparency , cardboard.. . And in all cases for good photo prints , it 's necessary to calibrate it [ amazon.com ] .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one coming in defense of inkjets ?
All the arguments against them I read above are indeed valid, but one thing that you can't do with a laser or dye-sub printer is print on artsy paper: glossy, matte, pearl, canvas, satin, high-gloss, luster, metallic, fiber, rag transparency, cardboard...

And in all cases for good photo prints, it's necessary to calibrate it [amazon.com]...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318048</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30333982</id>
	<title>Re:Prevent.</title>
	<author>wolftone</author>
	<datestamp>1260014100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...that's one way to get a Canon to work with Linux. Perhaps the only way, for most of Canon's printer models.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...that 's one way to get a Canon to work with Linux .
Perhaps the only way , for most of Canon 's printer models .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...that's one way to get a Canon to work with Linux.
Perhaps the only way, for most of Canon's printer models.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316508</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317652</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>zulater</author>
	<datestamp>1259839620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously he stated that he got the printer and extra ink (read full cartridges).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously he stated that he got the printer and extra ink ( read full cartridges ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously he stated that he got the printer and extra ink (read full cartridges).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317868</id>
	<title>Recycle it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259840520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Recycle it so it doesn't end up in a landfill. You can take it to Staples and they will recycle it for a $10 disposal fee.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Recycle it so it does n't end up in a landfill .
You can take it to Staples and they will recycle it for a $ 10 disposal fee .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Recycle it so it doesn't end up in a landfill.
You can take it to Staples and they will recycle it for a $10 disposal fee.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317356</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space</title>
	<author>cbs4385</author>
	<datestamp>1259838600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Knowledge = Power<br>Power = Work/time<br>time=Money<br>Knowledge = Work/Money via Substitution Principle<br>(Knowledge)(Money) = Work via multiplying both sides by Money<br>Money = Work/Knowledge via dividing both sides by Knowledge</p><p>Thus, for a constant amount of Work, the less you know, the more you make</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Knowledge = PowerPower = Work/timetime = MoneyKnowledge = Work/Money via Substitution Principle ( Knowledge ) ( Money ) = Work via multiplying both sides by MoneyMoney = Work/Knowledge via dividing both sides by KnowledgeThus , for a constant amount of Work , the less you know , the more you make</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Knowledge = PowerPower = Work/timetime=MoneyKnowledge = Work/Money via Substitution Principle(Knowledge)(Money) = Work via multiplying both sides by MoneyMoney = Work/Knowledge via dividing both sides by KnowledgeThus, for a constant amount of Work, the less you know, the more you make</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316878</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319500</id>
	<title>Re:If I ran my country</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259849340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If I ran my country (and I really think I should) it would be illegal to sell a device at a loss in order to gouge  on the consumables. In addition, they would be required to accept the return of any hardware they sell for environmentally acceptable disposal, meaning it would need to built into the price. I think some countries may already do this on some products.</p></div><p>Norway do all those things.. except having you as head of state/ninja leader/arch sith..</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I ran my country ( and I really think I should ) it would be illegal to sell a device at a loss in order to gouge on the consumables .
In addition , they would be required to accept the return of any hardware they sell for environmentally acceptable disposal , meaning it would need to built into the price .
I think some countries may already do this on some products.Norway do all those things.. except having you as head of state/ninja leader/arch sith. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I ran my country (and I really think I should) it would be illegal to sell a device at a loss in order to gouge  on the consumables.
In addition, they would be required to accept the return of any hardware they sell for environmentally acceptable disposal, meaning it would need to built into the price.
I think some countries may already do this on some products.Norway do all those things.. except having you as head of state/ninja leader/arch sith..
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316526</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317132</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259837820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually you'd be surprised how much ink the default drivers that come with the printer waste. It could just be lazy/bad programming or maybe they are intentionally using up ink faster.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually you 'd be surprised how much ink the default drivers that come with the printer waste .
It could just be lazy/bad programming or maybe they are intentionally using up ink faster .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually you'd be surprised how much ink the default drivers that come with the printer waste.
It could just be lazy/bad programming or maybe they are intentionally using up ink faster.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316584</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319128</id>
	<title>CNC</title>
	<author>Leolo</author>
	<datestamp>1259846700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The obvious answer : collect the stepper motor and driver board.  When you have a few, build a CNC router or laser engraver.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The obvious answer : collect the stepper motor and driver board .
When you have a few , build a CNC router or laser engraver .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The obvious answer : collect the stepper motor and driver board.
When you have a few, build a CNC router or laser engraver.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319176</id>
	<title>I Love my Epson RX 595</title>
	<author>C0L0PH0N</author>
	<datestamp>1259847000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, I really do.  It does great color and I like the scanner.  I have an Epson V500 scanner also, and they both use the same software.  I love the system.  Now, the cost of cartridges I do confess is driving me batty.  I am about ready to get one of the continuous refill systems, like this one for $70:  <a href="http://www.inkproducts.com/ink-store/catalog/Epson-Continuous-Ink-System-CIS-For-Epson-R260-R280-R380-RX580-R-p-435.html" title="inkproducts.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.inkproducts.com/ink-store/catalog/Epson-Continuous-Ink-System-CIS-For-Epson-R260-R280-R380-RX580-R-p-435.html</a> [inkproducts.com].  But when my Epson RX 595 dies, I'm going to get another one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , I really do .
It does great color and I like the scanner .
I have an Epson V500 scanner also , and they both use the same software .
I love the system .
Now , the cost of cartridges I do confess is driving me batty .
I am about ready to get one of the continuous refill systems , like this one for $ 70 : http : //www.inkproducts.com/ink-store/catalog/Epson-Continuous-Ink-System-CIS-For-Epson-R260-R280-R380-RX580-R-p-435.html [ inkproducts.com ] .
But when my Epson RX 595 dies , I 'm going to get another one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, I really do.
It does great color and I like the scanner.
I have an Epson V500 scanner also, and they both use the same software.
I love the system.
Now, the cost of cartridges I do confess is driving me batty.
I am about ready to get one of the continuous refill systems, like this one for $70:  http://www.inkproducts.com/ink-store/catalog/Epson-Continuous-Ink-System-CIS-For-Epson-R260-R280-R380-RX580-R-p-435.html [inkproducts.com].
But when my Epson RX 595 dies, I'm going to get another one.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320958</id>
	<title>Get a used Laser Printer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259862660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use an HP LaserJet 4, that my company gave to me when they were throwing away all the old printers and getting new ones.  So it was free, in 2000 or so.  I've been using the original toner cartridge that was in it when I got it.  So that's what I suggest, a big old used Laser.  Only problem is it uses the Parallel Port which two of my new computers don't have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use an HP LaserJet 4 , that my company gave to me when they were throwing away all the old printers and getting new ones .
So it was free , in 2000 or so .
I 've been using the original toner cartridge that was in it when I got it .
So that 's what I suggest , a big old used Laser .
Only problem is it uses the Parallel Port which two of my new computers do n't have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use an HP LaserJet 4, that my company gave to me when they were throwing away all the old printers and getting new ones.
So it was free, in 2000 or so.
I've been using the original toner cartridge that was in it when I got it.
So that's what I suggest, a big old used Laser.
Only problem is it uses the Parallel Port which two of my new computers don't have.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316962</id>
	<title>Loss leader</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259837340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>King Camp Gillette was a brilliant bastard...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>King Camp Gillette was a brilliant bastard.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>King Camp Gillette was a brilliant bastard...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318782</id>
	<title>Printers? What?</title>
	<author>Dirtside</author>
	<datestamp>1259844960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you implying that people still *print* things in this day and age? Weird, who needs a printer when you have a Kindle and a smartphone?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you implying that people still * print * things in this day and age ?
Weird , who needs a printer when you have a Kindle and a smartphone ?
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you implying that people still *print* things in this day and age?
Weird, who needs a printer when you have a Kindle and a smartphone?
;-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321580</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259957340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Flyback transformers don't hold a charge (their just coils and diodes in cascade), it is the CRT that holds a charge (it works like a capacitor).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Flyback transformers do n't hold a charge ( their just coils and diodes in cascade ) , it is the CRT that holds a charge ( it works like a capacitor ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flyback transformers don't hold a charge (their just coils and diodes in cascade), it is the CRT that holds a charge (it works like a capacitor).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318060</id>
	<title>Re:Recycle.</title>
	<author>pecosdave</author>
	<datestamp>1259841420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My vote goes to Cartridge World, I don't do a lot of printing, which is part of why I use them.  My ink tends to dry out or clog during the six months between times that I print, I just haul my cartridges in, exchange them when I need to print until those dry out.  It's a hell of of a lot cheaper than to let $16 ink cartridges dry out in the printer than it is to let $70 ink cartridges do it.</p><p>Good news is, I printed about a month ago, it worked great, I think my year old printer is doing much better than my 8 year old one that Hurricane Ike took.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My vote goes to Cartridge World , I do n't do a lot of printing , which is part of why I use them .
My ink tends to dry out or clog during the six months between times that I print , I just haul my cartridges in , exchange them when I need to print until those dry out .
It 's a hell of of a lot cheaper than to let $ 16 ink cartridges dry out in the printer than it is to let $ 70 ink cartridges do it.Good news is , I printed about a month ago , it worked great , I think my year old printer is doing much better than my 8 year old one that Hurricane Ike took .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My vote goes to Cartridge World, I don't do a lot of printing, which is part of why I use them.
My ink tends to dry out or clog during the six months between times that I print, I just haul my cartridges in, exchange them when I need to print until those dry out.
It's a hell of of a lot cheaper than to let $16 ink cartridges dry out in the printer than it is to let $70 ink cartridges do it.Good news is, I printed about a month ago, it worked great, I think my year old printer is doing much better than my 8 year old one that Hurricane Ike took.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316454</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320962</id>
	<title>Re:Get yourself a color laser</title>
	<author>crispytwo</author>
	<datestamp>1259862720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not only that it cost less, but it is much more reliable, longer lasting and probably ** way ** more environmentally friendly, if that matters to you. Probably not, since you bought an ink-jet.</p><p>Ink printers were really a good drunken idea, but when sober, a really bad idea that was marketed anyway. Can you imagine a world where there were no ink-jets? Perhaps where every printer could use post-script? Maybe even ones that ran on the network, and not on the back of a computer somehow? My eyes are tearing... with bliss.</p><p>Sometimes cheap is just that... crappy.</p><p>Get a laser printer and stop the waste.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not only that it cost less , but it is much more reliable , longer lasting and probably * * way * * more environmentally friendly , if that matters to you .
Probably not , since you bought an ink-jet.Ink printers were really a good drunken idea , but when sober , a really bad idea that was marketed anyway .
Can you imagine a world where there were no ink-jets ?
Perhaps where every printer could use post-script ?
Maybe even ones that ran on the network , and not on the back of a computer somehow ?
My eyes are tearing... with bliss.Sometimes cheap is just that... crappy.Get a laser printer and stop the waste .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not only that it cost less, but it is much more reliable, longer lasting and probably ** way ** more environmentally friendly, if that matters to you.
Probably not, since you bought an ink-jet.Ink printers were really a good drunken idea, but when sober, a really bad idea that was marketed anyway.
Can you imagine a world where there were no ink-jets?
Perhaps where every printer could use post-script?
Maybe even ones that ran on the network, and not on the back of a computer somehow?
My eyes are tearing... with bliss.Sometimes cheap is just that... crappy.Get a laser printer and stop the waste.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318048</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30332068</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>BikeHelmet</author>
	<datestamp>1259940360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My 2170W gets 2800 page cartridges for about $27 CAD. These are brand new OEM cartridges. I was worried when the capacity dropped to 25\% after 200 pages, but I'm now 2000 pages in and it's still holding at 25\% (could be a software glitch)</p><p>My last inkjet dried out. I got 10 pages from it. That's because I tend to not need my printer for a month and a time, and then suddenly I need 300 sheets printed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My 2170W gets 2800 page cartridges for about $ 27 CAD .
These are brand new OEM cartridges .
I was worried when the capacity dropped to 25 \ % after 200 pages , but I 'm now 2000 pages in and it 's still holding at 25 \ % ( could be a software glitch ) My last inkjet dried out .
I got 10 pages from it .
That 's because I tend to not need my printer for a month and a time , and then suddenly I need 300 sheets printed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My 2170W gets 2800 page cartridges for about $27 CAD.
These are brand new OEM cartridges.
I was worried when the capacity dropped to 25\% after 200 pages, but I'm now 2000 pages in and it's still holding at 25\% (could be a software glitch)My last inkjet dried out.
I got 10 pages from it.
That's because I tend to not need my printer for a month and a time, and then suddenly I need 300 sheets printed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317370</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319266</id>
	<title>Re:Don't buy inkjets period</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259847540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uh, sure.  Just go try to find a dye sublimation printer.  Notice how Newegg stopped carrying every single model they ever had?  I think Amazon has a few but most have been discontinued.  Now I know you can get them from specialty shops but really you're in for trouble when major resellers stop carrying a product that needs a lot of consumable support material.</p><p>Dye-sub may in fact be better but it's a lost technology at this point.  Soon you won't be able to get paper and ribbons for any of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh , sure .
Just go try to find a dye sublimation printer .
Notice how Newegg stopped carrying every single model they ever had ?
I think Amazon has a few but most have been discontinued .
Now I know you can get them from specialty shops but really you 're in for trouble when major resellers stop carrying a product that needs a lot of consumable support material.Dye-sub may in fact be better but it 's a lost technology at this point .
Soon you wo n't be able to get paper and ribbons for any of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh, sure.
Just go try to find a dye sublimation printer.
Notice how Newegg stopped carrying every single model they ever had?
I think Amazon has a few but most have been discontinued.
Now I know you can get them from specialty shops but really you're in for trouble when major resellers stop carrying a product that needs a lot of consumable support material.Dye-sub may in fact be better but it's a lost technology at this point.
Soon you won't be able to get paper and ribbons for any of them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316458</id>
	<title>Office Space re-enactment</title>
	<author>ArhcAngel</author>
	<datestamp>1259835900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Take it to a local field with a buddy</p><p>Set up a camera</p><p>Film yourself bashing it to bits</p><p>Upload to internet</p><p>Profit</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Take it to a local field with a buddySet up a cameraFilm yourself bashing it to bitsUpload to internetProfit</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take it to a local field with a buddySet up a cameraFilm yourself bashing it to bitsUpload to internetProfit</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316482</id>
	<title>Put in the the drawer.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259835960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We all have a drawer of old components that might some day be useful. SCSI cables, Ancient AC Adapters with weird voltage ratings, etc... A perfectly good printer sounds like a prime candidate for collecting dust. Who knows, maybe someday people will realize they're being ripped off and ink prices will drop to reasonable levels making it useful again?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We all have a drawer of old components that might some day be useful .
SCSI cables , Ancient AC Adapters with weird voltage ratings , etc... A perfectly good printer sounds like a prime candidate for collecting dust .
Who knows , maybe someday people will realize they 're being ripped off and ink prices will drop to reasonable levels making it useful again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We all have a drawer of old components that might some day be useful.
SCSI cables, Ancient AC Adapters with weird voltage ratings, etc... A perfectly good printer sounds like a prime candidate for collecting dust.
Who knows, maybe someday people will realize they're being ripped off and ink prices will drop to reasonable levels making it useful again?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321338</id>
	<title>Re:Send it to the manufacturer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259867700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With the number of "send it back" posts found here... you folks should get organized and send them back on the same day.</p><p>Organized crime is much more fun when you can pull it off without getting caught.</p><p>--<br>ACs need sigs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With the number of " send it back " posts found here... you folks should get organized and send them back on the same day.Organized crime is much more fun when you can pull it off without getting caught.--ACs need sigs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With the number of "send it back" posts found here... you folks should get organized and send them back on the same day.Organized crime is much more fun when you can pull it off without getting caught.--ACs need sigs.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316474</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317330</id>
	<title>Re:If I ran my country</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259838540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Heaven forbid consumers employ the adage so old it's in a dead language:  CAVEAT EMPTOR.  Seriously.  Most people (alive and dead) have heard of that.  You should give it a try sometime, Mussolini.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Heaven forbid consumers employ the adage so old it 's in a dead language : CAVEAT EMPTOR .
Seriously. Most people ( alive and dead ) have heard of that .
You should give it a try sometime , Mussolini .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heaven forbid consumers employ the adage so old it's in a dead language:  CAVEAT EMPTOR.
Seriously.  Most people (alive and dead) have heard of that.
You should give it a try sometime, Mussolini.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316526</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318182</id>
	<title>The obvious answer</title>
	<author>TheP4st</author>
	<datestamp>1259841960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext> Use it for therapeutic <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5orss3fAEU" title="youtube.com">purposes</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Use it for therapeutic purposes [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Use it for therapeutic purposes [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30327270</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>IorDMUX</author>
	<datestamp>1259957280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The razor and blades model has also caught on in the field of blood glucose monitors for diabetes sufferers.  You can walk into any Walgreen's and find a BG monitor selling for "$80.00 with an $80.00 instant rebate!".  In other words, you pay the tax to Walgreen's, and Walgreen's gets a guarantee of $80.00 from the monitor manufacturer.  <br> <br>But when you turn around to purchase company-specific test strips (of which the average Type 1 diabetic uses 6-8 per day) you find that, not only are there no 'generic' options, the test strips are sold in packages of 50-200 and priced at a <i>minimum</i> of $1-$2 <i>per strip</i>.  This works out to around $4000 annually; one of the most excessive examples of the "razor and blades" business model that I have ever seen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The razor and blades model has also caught on in the field of blood glucose monitors for diabetes sufferers .
You can walk into any Walgreen 's and find a BG monitor selling for " $ 80.00 with an $ 80.00 instant rebate ! " .
In other words , you pay the tax to Walgreen 's , and Walgreen 's gets a guarantee of $ 80.00 from the monitor manufacturer .
But when you turn around to purchase company-specific test strips ( of which the average Type 1 diabetic uses 6-8 per day ) you find that , not only are there no 'generic ' options , the test strips are sold in packages of 50-200 and priced at a minimum of $ 1- $ 2 per strip .
This works out to around $ 4000 annually ; one of the most excessive examples of the " razor and blades " business model that I have ever seen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The razor and blades model has also caught on in the field of blood glucose monitors for diabetes sufferers.
You can walk into any Walgreen's and find a BG monitor selling for "$80.00 with an $80.00 instant rebate!".
In other words, you pay the tax to Walgreen's, and Walgreen's gets a guarantee of $80.00 from the monitor manufacturer.
But when you turn around to purchase company-specific test strips (of which the average Type 1 diabetic uses 6-8 per day) you find that, not only are there no 'generic' options, the test strips are sold in packages of 50-200 and priced at a minimum of $1-$2 per strip.
This works out to around $4000 annually; one of the most excessive examples of the "razor and blades" business model that I have ever seen.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316790</id>
	<title>Three words for you</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Monochrome Laser Printer.</p><p>Seriously, unless you're a professional photographer there's no earthly way it makes any sense to print your own photos.  More or less anywhere will print them for you at practically the same cost per print, with the added bonus that you don't have the expenditure of buying the printer itself.  Then you just have to live with only being able to print in black &amp; white.</p><p>I intentionally do not mention colour laser printers because the cheap ones are heading in the same direction as inkjets - the initial cartridges are half-full, a full complement of all consumables costs about double what the machine itself costs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Monochrome Laser Printer.Seriously , unless you 're a professional photographer there 's no earthly way it makes any sense to print your own photos .
More or less anywhere will print them for you at practically the same cost per print , with the added bonus that you do n't have the expenditure of buying the printer itself .
Then you just have to live with only being able to print in black &amp; white.I intentionally do not mention colour laser printers because the cheap ones are heading in the same direction as inkjets - the initial cartridges are half-full , a full complement of all consumables costs about double what the machine itself costs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Monochrome Laser Printer.Seriously, unless you're a professional photographer there's no earthly way it makes any sense to print your own photos.
More or less anywhere will print them for you at practically the same cost per print, with the added bonus that you don't have the expenditure of buying the printer itself.
Then you just have to live with only being able to print in black &amp; white.I intentionally do not mention colour laser printers because the cheap ones are heading in the same direction as inkjets - the initial cartridges are half-full, a full complement of all consumables costs about double what the machine itself costs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317828</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space</title>
	<author>Cyner</author>
	<datestamp>1259840340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To answer the question: Take the old printer to local electronics recycling facility. Most cities have at least one place these days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To answer the question : Take the old printer to local electronics recycling facility .
Most cities have at least one place these days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To answer the question: Take the old printer to local electronics recycling facility.
Most cities have at least one place these days.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316418</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318168</id>
	<title>The fourth fluid</title>
	<author>hellfire</author>
	<datestamp>1259841900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Knowing this site, you obviously must mean bile.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Knowing this site , you obviously must mean bile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Knowing this site, you obviously must mean bile.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316474</id>
	<title>Send it to the manufacturer</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1259835960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Box it up and send it to the manufacturer. It's their business practices that cause this waste.  Make them deal with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Box it up and send it to the manufacturer .
It 's their business practices that cause this waste .
Make them deal with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Box it up and send it to the manufacturer.
It's their business practices that cause this waste.
Make them deal with it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321652</id>
	<title>Seriously, you still print????</title>
	<author>redGiraffe</author>
	<datestamp>1259958900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't had a printer in the last five years.</p><p>Thats not to say I've never needed one, but when I do I go down to the shop and have them print it out - sure its more expensive, but then I do it maybe thrice yearly.</p><p>Just don't print, duh!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't had a printer in the last five years.Thats not to say I 've never needed one , but when I do I go down to the shop and have them print it out - sure its more expensive , but then I do it maybe thrice yearly.Just do n't print , duh !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't had a printer in the last five years.Thats not to say I've never needed one, but when I do I go down to the shop and have them print it out - sure its more expensive, but then I do it maybe thrice yearly.Just don't print, duh!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30329690</id>
	<title>Epson printers are garbage anyway...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259924940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The fixed head clogs up anyway. Fell for it twice already.<br>Using head-in-cartridge style printers now, haven't looked back since.<br>Epson is garbage in the first degree.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The fixed head clogs up anyway .
Fell for it twice already.Using head-in-cartridge style printers now , have n't looked back since.Epson is garbage in the first degree .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fixed head clogs up anyway.
Fell for it twice already.Using head-in-cartridge style printers now, haven't looked back since.Epson is garbage in the first degree.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319994</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>vintagepc</author>
	<datestamp>1259853120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is why I refill my cartridges... Saves me a HUGE amount of money- one full refill and I can buy a new printer with the amount I saved versus if I had bought OEM carts. (CLI-8s)

Granted, you have to know what you're doing, and there is some time involved, so it's not for the faint of heart, but always an option for most printers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why I refill my cartridges... Saves me a HUGE amount of money- one full refill and I can buy a new printer with the amount I saved versus if I had bought OEM carts .
( CLI-8s ) Granted , you have to know what you 're doing , and there is some time involved , so it 's not for the faint of heart , but always an option for most printers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why I refill my cartridges... Saves me a HUGE amount of money- one full refill and I can buy a new printer with the amount I saved versus if I had bought OEM carts.
(CLI-8s)

Granted, you have to know what you're doing, and there is some time involved, so it's not for the faint of heart, but always an option for most printers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30323130</id>
	<title>How not to keep your job selling printers</title>
	<author>scotts13</author>
	<datestamp>1259938860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some years back, before the manufacturers "invented" half-full starter cartridges, I saw a presentation by a Lexar rep to a major school district. The guy was a newbie; he used a cost analysis showing the district would be MUCH better off buying a huge quantity of their loss-leader printers and discarding them when empty, than ordering cartridges for them.

Oddly enough, I never say that particular Lexar rep on the circuit again...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Some years back , before the manufacturers " invented " half-full starter cartridges , I saw a presentation by a Lexar rep to a major school district .
The guy was a newbie ; he used a cost analysis showing the district would be MUCH better off buying a huge quantity of their loss-leader printers and discarding them when empty , than ordering cartridges for them .
Oddly enough , I never say that particular Lexar rep on the circuit again.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some years back, before the manufacturers "invented" half-full starter cartridges, I saw a presentation by a Lexar rep to a major school district.
The guy was a newbie; he used a cost analysis showing the district would be MUCH better off buying a huge quantity of their loss-leader printers and discarding them when empty, than ordering cartridges for them.
Oddly enough, I never say that particular Lexar rep on the circuit again...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30332320</id>
	<title>Re:Cheap Printer?</title>
	<author>JCharavda</author>
	<datestamp>1259944260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have 6 printers sitting right in my garage for exactly the same reason. Every 4-5 months I buy printer which is cheaper than the cartridges even including one laser printer which I bought for $50 and the cartridge is $80!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have 6 printers sitting right in my garage for exactly the same reason .
Every 4-5 months I buy printer which is cheaper than the cartridges even including one laser printer which I bought for $ 50 and the cartridge is $ 80 !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have 6 printers sitting right in my garage for exactly the same reason.
Every 4-5 months I buy printer which is cheaper than the cartridges even including one laser printer which I bought for $50 and the cartridge is $80!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318604</id>
	<title>Maybe ask epson</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259844000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"At Epson, we recognize the importance of preserving our environment and contributing to the global community. With that in mind, we are proud to sponsor a product stewardship program that enables Epson customers to send back used Epson products for recycling."</p><p>http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/Recycle/RecycleProgram.jsp?BV\_UseBVCookie=yes</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" At Epson , we recognize the importance of preserving our environment and contributing to the global community .
With that in mind , we are proud to sponsor a product stewardship program that enables Epson customers to send back used Epson products for recycling .
" http : //www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/Recycle/RecycleProgram.jsp ? BV \ _UseBVCookie = yes</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"At Epson, we recognize the importance of preserving our environment and contributing to the global community.
With that in mind, we are proud to sponsor a product stewardship program that enables Epson customers to send back used Epson products for recycling.
"http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/Recycle/RecycleProgram.jsp?BV\_UseBVCookie=yes</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321610</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>bm\_luethke</author>
	<datestamp>1259957880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I once hit a really old TV at the time (no idea exactly how old, it was half buried in a sink hole) with a bottle and it exploded *really* nicely - it shot glass particles nearly 15 feet. We had earlier in the day been beating it with a hammer trying to get it to break and couldn't - in retrospect it was good it didn't<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:). This was around 1988 - 1993 as we moved there before I left middle school and this was before I graduated high school - I do recall the TV had vacuum tubes and we busted them afterwords. Since I recognized what a vacuum tube was but didn't know enough about a CRT I would expect early high school, this incident was one of the "interesting" things that pushed me into general technology.</p><p>Newer stuff has never been as interesting. Most of it just<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... breaks. My father tells of using an old TV he took apart to melt metals. The TV had a small screen and used a glass magnifying glass to make it a "nineteen inch" TV (or whatever the screen size was - it's been a while since I heard the stories of what it could melt). That would have really and truly trumped the Big Implosion that the CRT I hit with a bottle did. New stuff needs those explosives to be neat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I once hit a really old TV at the time ( no idea exactly how old , it was half buried in a sink hole ) with a bottle and it exploded * really * nicely - it shot glass particles nearly 15 feet .
We had earlier in the day been beating it with a hammer trying to get it to break and could n't - in retrospect it was good it did n't : ) .
This was around 1988 - 1993 as we moved there before I left middle school and this was before I graduated high school - I do recall the TV had vacuum tubes and we busted them afterwords .
Since I recognized what a vacuum tube was but did n't know enough about a CRT I would expect early high school , this incident was one of the " interesting " things that pushed me into general technology.Newer stuff has never been as interesting .
Most of it just ... breaks. My father tells of using an old TV he took apart to melt metals .
The TV had a small screen and used a glass magnifying glass to make it a " nineteen inch " TV ( or whatever the screen size was - it 's been a while since I heard the stories of what it could melt ) .
That would have really and truly trumped the Big Implosion that the CRT I hit with a bottle did .
New stuff needs those explosives to be neat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I once hit a really old TV at the time (no idea exactly how old, it was half buried in a sink hole) with a bottle and it exploded *really* nicely - it shot glass particles nearly 15 feet.
We had earlier in the day been beating it with a hammer trying to get it to break and couldn't - in retrospect it was good it didn't :).
This was around 1988 - 1993 as we moved there before I left middle school and this was before I graduated high school - I do recall the TV had vacuum tubes and we busted them afterwords.
Since I recognized what a vacuum tube was but didn't know enough about a CRT I would expect early high school, this incident was one of the "interesting" things that pushed me into general technology.Newer stuff has never been as interesting.
Most of it just ... breaks. My father tells of using an old TV he took apart to melt metals.
The TV had a small screen and used a glass magnifying glass to make it a "nineteen inch" TV (or whatever the screen size was - it's been a while since I heard the stories of what it could melt).
That would have really and truly trumped the Big Implosion that the CRT I hit with a bottle did.
New stuff needs those explosives to be neat.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317088</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259837700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>before you go calling the cops, do a little research. for many ink jet printers, the bulk of the technology is in the cartridge. they do way more that just hold ink, fella.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>before you go calling the cops , do a little research .
for many ink jet printers , the bulk of the technology is in the cartridge .
they do way more that just hold ink , fella .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>before you go calling the cops, do a little research.
for many ink jet printers, the bulk of the technology is in the cartridge.
they do way more that just hold ink, fella.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318536</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>spitzak</author>
	<datestamp>1259843700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's hardly comparable. Whether overpriced or not, the excuse for expensive drugs is that it pays for the development. I can assure you that the development of an ink cartridge cost a tiny fraction of the manufacturing price.</p><p>Now maybe if big Pharma built free hospitals for everybody and then relied on the prices of the drugs used by those hospitals it would be similar to what the printer companies are doing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's hardly comparable .
Whether overpriced or not , the excuse for expensive drugs is that it pays for the development .
I can assure you that the development of an ink cartridge cost a tiny fraction of the manufacturing price.Now maybe if big Pharma built free hospitals for everybody and then relied on the prices of the drugs used by those hospitals it would be similar to what the printer companies are doing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's hardly comparable.
Whether overpriced or not, the excuse for expensive drugs is that it pays for the development.
I can assure you that the development of an ink cartridge cost a tiny fraction of the manufacturing price.Now maybe if big Pharma built free hospitals for everybody and then relied on the prices of the drugs used by those hospitals it would be similar to what the printer companies are doing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316872</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316400</id>
	<title>ctrl+p</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259835780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>first post</htmltext>
<tokenext>first post</tokentext>
<sentencetext>first post</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320556</id>
	<title>What to do ..</title>
	<author>wtansill</author>
	<datestamp>1259858220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Target practice?  How many<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.40 S&amp;W rounds do you think it can take?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Target practice ?
How many .40 S&amp;W rounds do you think it can take ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Target practice?
How many .40 S&amp;W rounds do you think it can take?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317932</id>
	<title>savetheenvironment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259840760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about stop printing. With disk space, pdfs, etc etc etc whey do we need hard copies of anything anymore?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about stop printing .
With disk space , pdfs , etc etc etc whey do we need hard copies of anything anymore ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about stop printing.
With disk space, pdfs, etc etc etc whey do we need hard copies of anything anymore?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316740</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>CodeBuster</author>
	<datestamp>1259836620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.</p></div><p>It doesn't, but the cost to the company is not just the cost of the pigments, it is also the loss leader price for just about every printer they sell; especially true with the consumer grade laser and photo printers. The market has demonstrated, whether through ignorance or otherwise, that they prefer the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razor\_and\_blades" title="wikipedia.org">razor and blades</a> [wikipedia.org] model to paying what the individual items actually cost. This could happen even in the absence of any collusion.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.It does n't , but the cost to the company is not just the cost of the pigments , it is also the loss leader price for just about every printer they sell ; especially true with the consumer grade laser and photo printers .
The market has demonstrated , whether through ignorance or otherwise , that they prefer the razor and blades [ wikipedia.org ] model to paying what the individual items actually cost .
This could happen even in the absence of any collusion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.It doesn't, but the cost to the company is not just the cost of the pigments, it is also the loss leader price for just about every printer they sell; especially true with the consumer grade laser and photo printers.
The market has demonstrated, whether through ignorance or otherwise, that they prefer the razor and blades [wikipedia.org] model to paying what the individual items actually cost.
This could happen even in the absence of any collusion.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321694</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>cerberusss</author>
	<datestamp>1259959680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do understand the advantages of buying a second-hand laser, but there's an advantage to the new inkjets: all-in-ones. These pack a scanner and stand-alone copier, too, which IMHO is awfully handy.</p><p>Printers aren't just for printing anymore. I agree however, that the disadvantages of the inkjet remain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do understand the advantages of buying a second-hand laser , but there 's an advantage to the new inkjets : all-in-ones .
These pack a scanner and stand-alone copier , too , which IMHO is awfully handy.Printers are n't just for printing anymore .
I agree however , that the disadvantages of the inkjet remain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do understand the advantages of buying a second-hand laser, but there's an advantage to the new inkjets: all-in-ones.
These pack a scanner and stand-alone copier, too, which IMHO is awfully handy.Printers aren't just for printing anymore.
I agree however, that the disadvantages of the inkjet remain.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318218</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>JO\_DIE\_THE\_STAR\_F***</author>
	<datestamp>1259842080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Shot gun + Slugs = Electronics Destroying Fun

Pretty much useless past 100 yards but leaves a big hole in anything it hits within that range. No ricochet either as they have awesome penetrating power.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Shot gun + Slugs = Electronics Destroying Fun Pretty much useless past 100 yards but leaves a big hole in anything it hits within that range .
No ricochet either as they have awesome penetrating power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shot gun + Slugs = Electronics Destroying Fun

Pretty much useless past 100 yards but leaves a big hole in anything it hits within that range.
No ricochet either as they have awesome penetrating power.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317126</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259837820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not only that, most of the 'full' carts you buy are only about 3/4 full, and leave about 1/8 of the ink in the cart.  Get a lazer for black and white, and use something like MPix for photos. Great price, and better then any ink jet print.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only that , most of the 'full ' carts you buy are only about 3/4 full , and leave about 1/8 of the ink in the cart .
Get a lazer for black and white , and use something like MPix for photos .
Great price , and better then any ink jet print .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only that, most of the 'full' carts you buy are only about 3/4 full, and leave about 1/8 of the ink in the cart.
Get a lazer for black and white, and use something like MPix for photos.
Great price, and better then any ink jet print.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30324444</id>
	<title>Re:Don't buy inkjets period</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259945760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not seeing any dye-sub photo printers that can print larger than an 8x12 and those are running around $2600. That's about the size where I start printing photos.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not seeing any dye-sub photo printers that can print larger than an 8x12 and those are running around $ 2600 .
That 's about the size where I start printing photos .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not seeing any dye-sub photo printers that can print larger than an 8x12 and those are running around $2600.
That's about the size where I start printing photos.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30328324</id>
	<title>What It Costs to Run Your Printer</title>
	<author>SkinnyGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1259918820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The cost of your printer is almost meaningless. Focus on what it'll cost to run the thing--long term. <a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2356645,00.asp" title="pcmag.com" rel="nofollow">This PC Magazine article should help.</a> [pcmag.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>The cost of your printer is almost meaningless .
Focus on what it 'll cost to run the thing--long term .
This PC Magazine article should help .
[ pcmag.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The cost of your printer is almost meaningless.
Focus on what it'll cost to run the thing--long term.
This PC Magazine article should help.
[pcmag.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316700</id>
	<title>Less ink, but replacement is cheaper</title>
	<author>odin84gk</author>
	<datestamp>1259836500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure, the new printer has less ink than a new cartrage. BUT, I can get a new printer and a new cartrage for around $100 from best buy (cheaper if you go online). The replacement ink for that printer is only $13. So while this new printer has less initial ink, he will still come out ahead if he bought the printer with low ink replacement costs.</p><p>Printer: $79.99<br><a href="http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+Deskjet+Multifunction+Printer/+Copier/+Scanner/9317429.p?id=1218084031435&amp;skuId=9317429" title="bestbuy.com">http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+Deskjet+Multifunction+Printer/+Copier/+Scanner/9317429.p?id=1218084031435&amp;skuId=9317429</a> [bestbuy.com]<br>Ink: $13<br><a href="http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+60+Ink+Cartridge+-+Black/8761912.p?skuId=8761912&amp;id=1202650704918" title="bestbuy.com">http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+60+Ink+Cartridge+-+Black/8761912.p?skuId=8761912&amp;id=1202650704918</a> [bestbuy.com]</p><p>And, as always, read the Amazon reviews before you buy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , the new printer has less ink than a new cartrage .
BUT , I can get a new printer and a new cartrage for around $ 100 from best buy ( cheaper if you go online ) .
The replacement ink for that printer is only $ 13 .
So while this new printer has less initial ink , he will still come out ahead if he bought the printer with low ink replacement costs.Printer : $ 79.99http : //www.bestbuy.com/site/HP + - + Deskjet + Multifunction + Printer/ + Copier/ + Scanner/9317429.p ? id = 1218084031435&amp;skuId = 9317429 [ bestbuy.com ] Ink : $ 13http : //www.bestbuy.com/site/HP + - + 60 + Ink + Cartridge + - + Black/8761912.p ? skuId = 8761912&amp;id = 1202650704918 [ bestbuy.com ] And , as always , read the Amazon reviews before you buy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, the new printer has less ink than a new cartrage.
BUT, I can get a new printer and a new cartrage for around $100 from best buy (cheaper if you go online).
The replacement ink for that printer is only $13.
So while this new printer has less initial ink, he will still come out ahead if he bought the printer with low ink replacement costs.Printer: $79.99http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+Deskjet+Multifunction+Printer/+Copier/+Scanner/9317429.p?id=1218084031435&amp;skuId=9317429 [bestbuy.com]Ink: $13http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+60+Ink+Cartridge+-+Black/8761912.p?skuId=8761912&amp;id=1202650704918 [bestbuy.com]And, as always, read the Amazon reviews before you buy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316522</id>
	<title>Convert it to continuous feed inktanks</title>
	<author>assemblerex</author>
	<datestamp>1259836020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can get a set of continuous ink tanks off ebay for about $50 that will give you
enough ink capacity to print until the second coming.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can get a set of continuous ink tanks off ebay for about $ 50 that will give you enough ink capacity to print until the second coming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can get a set of continuous ink tanks off ebay for about $50 that will give you
enough ink capacity to print until the second coming.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321044</id>
	<title>Re:Get yourself a color laser</title>
	<author>amaiman</author>
	<datestamp>1259863620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I give the same advice to people all the time!  (They rarely listen, though.  "I want to print color sometimes." - fine, get a color laser).  The inkjets are such a ripoff.

I bought a little Brother laser printer a few years ago.  I rarely print, so I'm still on the starter toner cartridge.  It prints much faster than an inkjet, the whole thing cost like $50 after rebate, and the ink never dries out.  I would have wasted four or five inkjet cartridges by now to print the same 100 or 200 pages...

I don't need to print photos at home on an inkjet printer, it's much cheaper to send that out to Walgreens or even WHCC and then I get it on real photo paper.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I give the same advice to people all the time !
( They rarely listen , though .
" I want to print color sometimes .
" - fine , get a color laser ) .
The inkjets are such a ripoff .
I bought a little Brother laser printer a few years ago .
I rarely print , so I 'm still on the starter toner cartridge .
It prints much faster than an inkjet , the whole thing cost like $ 50 after rebate , and the ink never dries out .
I would have wasted four or five inkjet cartridges by now to print the same 100 or 200 pages.. . I do n't need to print photos at home on an inkjet printer , it 's much cheaper to send that out to Walgreens or even WHCC and then I get it on real photo paper .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I give the same advice to people all the time!
(They rarely listen, though.
"I want to print color sometimes.
" - fine, get a color laser).
The inkjets are such a ripoff.
I bought a little Brother laser printer a few years ago.
I rarely print, so I'm still on the starter toner cartridge.
It prints much faster than an inkjet, the whole thing cost like $50 after rebate, and the ink never dries out.
I would have wasted four or five inkjet cartridges by now to print the same 100 or 200 pages...

I don't need to print photos at home on an inkjet printer, it's much cheaper to send that out to Walgreens or even WHCC and then I get it on real photo paper.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318048</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322132</id>
	<title>crap bang</title>
	<author>zorkdork</author>
	<datestamp>1259923920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>on weekends that i decide to go shooting, I usually bring useless tech garbage to my range and shoot it all to hell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>on weekends that i decide to go shooting , I usually bring useless tech garbage to my range and shoot it all to hell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>on weekends that i decide to go shooting, I usually bring useless tech garbage to my range and shoot it all to hell.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317512</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>biggaijin</author>
	<datestamp>1259839140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought a Samsung Laser printer several years ago for less than $200 to use with Linux.  The first cartridge was a starter one, only half-full, but it still lasted me over a year.  The replacement (full) cartridge cost about $60 and has already lasted over two years of moderate use -- the cartridge is good for a couple thousand pages.  The output is a dark and crisp 600 DPI and the output speed is a lot faster than any inkjet I have seen.</p><p>I will never buy another ink-jet money-sink.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought a Samsung Laser printer several years ago for less than $ 200 to use with Linux .
The first cartridge was a starter one , only half-full , but it still lasted me over a year .
The replacement ( full ) cartridge cost about $ 60 and has already lasted over two years of moderate use -- the cartridge is good for a couple thousand pages .
The output is a dark and crisp 600 DPI and the output speed is a lot faster than any inkjet I have seen.I will never buy another ink-jet money-sink .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought a Samsung Laser printer several years ago for less than $200 to use with Linux.
The first cartridge was a starter one, only half-full, but it still lasted me over a year.
The replacement (full) cartridge cost about $60 and has already lasted over two years of moderate use -- the cartridge is good for a couple thousand pages.
The output is a dark and crisp 600 DPI and the output speed is a lot faster than any inkjet I have seen.I will never buy another ink-jet money-sink.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316508</id>
	<title>Re:Prevent.</title>
	<author>Nefarious Wheel</author>
	<datestamp>1259836020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you do end up stuck with a printer, or printers, you might want to see if you are, or if you know, any electronics/robotics hobbyists. Even cheap and ghastly printers contain a reasonable supply of motors(some conventional DC, some steppers) and gears and optointerrupters and other fun little gizmos. The larger and more sophisticated printers can contain pretty impressive quantities of such.</p></div><p>Arrgh for the love of mod points, that's insightful.</p><p>Next - a series of combat robot competitions where the components must come from discarded printers.  Who's game?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you do end up stuck with a printer , or printers , you might want to see if you are , or if you know , any electronics/robotics hobbyists .
Even cheap and ghastly printers contain a reasonable supply of motors ( some conventional DC , some steppers ) and gears and optointerrupters and other fun little gizmos .
The larger and more sophisticated printers can contain pretty impressive quantities of such.Arrgh for the love of mod points , that 's insightful.Next - a series of combat robot competitions where the components must come from discarded printers .
Who 's game ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you do end up stuck with a printer, or printers, you might want to see if you are, or if you know, any electronics/robotics hobbyists.
Even cheap and ghastly printers contain a reasonable supply of motors(some conventional DC, some steppers) and gears and optointerrupters and other fun little gizmos.
The larger and more sophisticated printers can contain pretty impressive quantities of such.Arrgh for the love of mod points, that's insightful.Next - a series of combat robot competitions where the components must come from discarded printers.
Who's game?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316420</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317118</id>
	<title>Have them printed for you</title>
	<author>BlueBoxSW.com</author>
	<datestamp>1259837760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just had a stack of photos printed at Ritz Camera online. Cost me under $3. Picked them up down the street.</p><p>And, they'll last a decade, unlike your home printed photos, which will start to fade in 2 years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just had a stack of photos printed at Ritz Camera online .
Cost me under $ 3 .
Picked them up down the street.And , they 'll last a decade , unlike your home printed photos , which will start to fade in 2 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just had a stack of photos printed at Ritz Camera online.
Cost me under $3.
Picked them up down the street.And, they'll last a decade, unlike your home printed photos, which will start to fade in 2 years.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317236</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space</title>
	<author>fran6gagne</author>
	<datestamp>1259838180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>A bat?? It will fly away with the printer? I'm kinda confused...</htmltext>
<tokenext>A bat ? ?
It will fly away with the printer ?
I 'm kinda confused.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A bat??
It will fly away with the printer?
I'm kinda confused...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316418</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317622</id>
	<title>Ink refills</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259839500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you're a DIYer, refill the carts. I just got a kit for $105. I worked it out that each refill will cost $13. That's an entire set (black and color.) It pays for itself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're a DIYer , refill the carts .
I just got a kit for $ 105 .
I worked it out that each refill will cost $ 13 .
That 's an entire set ( black and color .
) It pays for itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're a DIYer, refill the carts.
I just got a kit for $105.
I worked it out that each refill will cost $13.
That's an entire set (black and color.
) It pays for itself.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317062</id>
	<title>Re:The old fashioned way</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1259837640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>as this is a family site).<br></i><br>You must be new here!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>as this is a family site ) .You must be new here !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as this is a family site).You must be new here!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318456</id>
	<title>You can help Makers, teachers, students &amp; your</title>
	<author>nevergroundbound</author>
	<datestamp>1259843220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Consider that the average inkjet has:
<br> <br>

2 stepper motors with drive gears, drive belts and spring tensioned end pully.
<br> <br>

A rotary encoder (probably 360 deg/ rev.) and linear encoder with encoder tape .
<br> <br>

2 or more optical switches with wire harness prepared and the "little swinging door thing" to close the signal.
<br> <br>

2 ground steel rods, possibly with brass bushings
Ample surface mount components that no one cares about roasting while practicing their surface mount soldering skills.  (Data sheets are easy to google and if you desolder well you have free robot IC's)
<br> <br>

Assorted gears, wheels, springs, standard sheet metal screws, and more.
<br> <br>

If you're concerned about giving it away on Craigs list to someone who will try to resell it to people who don't understand the cost of ink, rip off the useless (non hazmat) plastic covers, take a picture, and label the add "free robot parts."
<br> <br>

We teachers, engineering students, and "Makers" know good project parts when we see them.  The trick is just knowing where to find us!
<br> <br>
Or, if you just want to be done with it check the EPA&rsquo;s E-cycling resource page:
<br> <br>

 <a href="http://www.epa.gov/osw/conserve/materials/ecycling/pubs.htm" title="epa.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.epa.gov/osw/conserve/materials/ecycling/pubs.htm</a> [epa.gov]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Consider that the average inkjet has : 2 stepper motors with drive gears , drive belts and spring tensioned end pully .
A rotary encoder ( probably 360 deg/ rev .
) and linear encoder with encoder tape .
2 or more optical switches with wire harness prepared and the " little swinging door thing " to close the signal .
2 ground steel rods , possibly with brass bushings Ample surface mount components that no one cares about roasting while practicing their surface mount soldering skills .
( Data sheets are easy to google and if you desolder well you have free robot IC 's ) Assorted gears , wheels , springs , standard sheet metal screws , and more .
If you 're concerned about giving it away on Craigs list to someone who will try to resell it to people who do n't understand the cost of ink , rip off the useless ( non hazmat ) plastic covers , take a picture , and label the add " free robot parts .
" We teachers , engineering students , and " Makers " know good project parts when we see them .
The trick is just knowing where to find us !
Or , if you just want to be done with it check the EPA    s E-cycling resource page : http : //www.epa.gov/osw/conserve/materials/ecycling/pubs.htm [ epa.gov ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Consider that the average inkjet has:
 

2 stepper motors with drive gears, drive belts and spring tensioned end pully.
A rotary encoder (probably 360 deg/ rev.
) and linear encoder with encoder tape .
2 or more optical switches with wire harness prepared and the "little swinging door thing" to close the signal.
2 ground steel rods, possibly with brass bushings
Ample surface mount components that no one cares about roasting while practicing their surface mount soldering skills.
(Data sheets are easy to google and if you desolder well you have free robot IC's)
 

Assorted gears, wheels, springs, standard sheet metal screws, and more.
If you're concerned about giving it away on Craigs list to someone who will try to resell it to people who don't understand the cost of ink, rip off the useless (non hazmat) plastic covers, take a picture, and label the add "free robot parts.
"
 

We teachers, engineering students, and "Makers" know good project parts when we see them.
The trick is just knowing where to find us!
Or, if you just want to be done with it check the EPA’s E-cycling resource page:
 

 http://www.epa.gov/osw/conserve/materials/ecycling/pubs.htm [epa.gov]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317892</id>
	<title>Don't buy inkjets period</title>
	<author>rolfwind</author>
	<datestamp>1259840640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WTF.  People still buying inkjets and bitching about it?  Is lexmark STILL in business?</p><p>It's simple.  Don't buy inkjets.  Buy a laser that has decent sized laser cartridges.  B/W if you print lots of text.  Color tends to have small cartridges out of space considerations.</p><p>Besides the cost, with inkjets, you have clean the head constantly and if you don't use in a while (say you have a several week vacation or other trip), worry about the printer head drying out.  Headaches and a fucking waste of time, imo.</p><p>And for photos, dye-subs.  Even if they don't beat inkjets on dpi, my 300dpi dyesub beats any 1200x1200 in actual results.  You JUST DON'T see the millions of dots with dyesub, it's all blended together, and because there is a clear coat, no smearing of the images, even if you lick your fingers and go across the picture right after it was printed.  It looks as good or better than from professional print shop.</p><p>I don't even know why this argument is still going on after all these years.  Inkjet was and always will be a half-assed home solution when the good solutions have matured and become considerably cheap.  In the space of 5 years, I threw out just as many inkjets in the early 2000s with lots of printing problems aggravation.  In the same space of time, I have had just 2 lasers and 1 dyesub, all still working (1 for b/w, other a color copier) and I probably printed out 10x the material with them because it was just easier.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WTF .
People still buying inkjets and bitching about it ?
Is lexmark STILL in business ? It 's simple .
Do n't buy inkjets .
Buy a laser that has decent sized laser cartridges .
B/W if you print lots of text .
Color tends to have small cartridges out of space considerations.Besides the cost , with inkjets , you have clean the head constantly and if you do n't use in a while ( say you have a several week vacation or other trip ) , worry about the printer head drying out .
Headaches and a fucking waste of time , imo.And for photos , dye-subs .
Even if they do n't beat inkjets on dpi , my 300dpi dyesub beats any 1200x1200 in actual results .
You JUST DO N'T see the millions of dots with dyesub , it 's all blended together , and because there is a clear coat , no smearing of the images , even if you lick your fingers and go across the picture right after it was printed .
It looks as good or better than from professional print shop.I do n't even know why this argument is still going on after all these years .
Inkjet was and always will be a half-assed home solution when the good solutions have matured and become considerably cheap .
In the space of 5 years , I threw out just as many inkjets in the early 2000s with lots of printing problems aggravation .
In the same space of time , I have had just 2 lasers and 1 dyesub , all still working ( 1 for b/w , other a color copier ) and I probably printed out 10x the material with them because it was just easier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WTF.
People still buying inkjets and bitching about it?
Is lexmark STILL in business?It's simple.
Don't buy inkjets.
Buy a laser that has decent sized laser cartridges.
B/W if you print lots of text.
Color tends to have small cartridges out of space considerations.Besides the cost, with inkjets, you have clean the head constantly and if you don't use in a while (say you have a several week vacation or other trip), worry about the printer head drying out.
Headaches and a fucking waste of time, imo.And for photos, dye-subs.
Even if they don't beat inkjets on dpi, my 300dpi dyesub beats any 1200x1200 in actual results.
You JUST DON'T see the millions of dots with dyesub, it's all blended together, and because there is a clear coat, no smearing of the images, even if you lick your fingers and go across the picture right after it was printed.
It looks as good or better than from professional print shop.I don't even know why this argument is still going on after all these years.
Inkjet was and always will be a half-assed home solution when the good solutions have matured and become considerably cheap.
In the space of 5 years, I threw out just as many inkjets in the early 2000s with lots of printing problems aggravation.
In the same space of time, I have had just 2 lasers and 1 dyesub, all still working (1 for b/w, other a color copier) and I probably printed out 10x the material with them because it was just easier.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321796</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259918160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Next time use cheap "commie" steal jacketed ammo.  It sparks more on impact.  Quite a few ranges in drier states ban the use of the Russian "bi-metal" ammo like Wolf or Brown Bear for this reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Next time use cheap " commie " steal jacketed ammo .
It sparks more on impact .
Quite a few ranges in drier states ban the use of the Russian " bi-metal " ammo like Wolf or Brown Bear for this reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Next time use cheap "commie" steal jacketed ammo.
It sparks more on impact.
Quite a few ranges in drier states ban the use of the Russian "bi-metal" ammo like Wolf or Brown Bear for this reason.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318150</id>
	<title>What Do You Do ?</title>
	<author>smoker2</author>
	<datestamp>1259841840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well I probably wouldn't have bought the damn ink from that store. I can get all 6 cartridges for my Epson R200 for less than &pound;6. No, I don't buy genuine epson, my warrantee period ended years ago. It strikes me that in this case, an idiot just spent too much money because they're an idiot. On the other hand, somebody else's going to get a cheap half decent printer out of it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well I probably would n't have bought the damn ink from that store .
I can get all 6 cartridges for my Epson R200 for less than   6 .
No , I do n't buy genuine epson , my warrantee period ended years ago .
It strikes me that in this case , an idiot just spent too much money because they 're an idiot .
On the other hand , somebody else 's going to get a cheap half decent printer out of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well I probably wouldn't have bought the damn ink from that store.
I can get all 6 cartridges for my Epson R200 for less than £6.
No, I don't buy genuine epson, my warrantee period ended years ago.
It strikes me that in this case, an idiot just spent too much money because they're an idiot.
On the other hand, somebody else's going to get a cheap half decent printer out of it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321566</id>
	<title>It's not just a printer!</title>
	<author>ricky-road-flats</author>
	<datestamp>1259957160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For a start, it's very good printer. I have one. Edge-to-edge printing, CDR printing, and 6-colour photo printing to a very high quality. Second, it's a good flatbed scanner too - so it can do photocopying without the host PC being on. Third, it can print straight from files on USB sticks and flash cards.</p><p>Now I'm not saying you're using all those features, but frankly you seem to be bitching about the cost of a full set of carts for it. There are two other options: el cheapo cartridges as others have pointed out are a lot cheaper than originals, or you can buy individual ones - and I find it hard to believe you've run out of all 6.</p><p>For me, it's not a problem. The cartridges last a long time, the photos it produces are wonderful and (so far) are fade-free, and it's a very quick copier/printer for other documents. The scanner's great too.</p><p>In summary, the cheapo replacement printer will NOT BE AS GOOD, unless you're only using it for printing, and only printing documents, not display-quality photos. In which case, she bought the wrong thing to start with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For a start , it 's very good printer .
I have one .
Edge-to-edge printing , CDR printing , and 6-colour photo printing to a very high quality .
Second , it 's a good flatbed scanner too - so it can do photocopying without the host PC being on .
Third , it can print straight from files on USB sticks and flash cards.Now I 'm not saying you 're using all those features , but frankly you seem to be bitching about the cost of a full set of carts for it .
There are two other options : el cheapo cartridges as others have pointed out are a lot cheaper than originals , or you can buy individual ones - and I find it hard to believe you 've run out of all 6.For me , it 's not a problem .
The cartridges last a long time , the photos it produces are wonderful and ( so far ) are fade-free , and it 's a very quick copier/printer for other documents .
The scanner 's great too.In summary , the cheapo replacement printer will NOT BE AS GOOD , unless you 're only using it for printing , and only printing documents , not display-quality photos .
In which case , she bought the wrong thing to start with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a start, it's very good printer.
I have one.
Edge-to-edge printing, CDR printing, and 6-colour photo printing to a very high quality.
Second, it's a good flatbed scanner too - so it can do photocopying without the host PC being on.
Third, it can print straight from files on USB sticks and flash cards.Now I'm not saying you're using all those features, but frankly you seem to be bitching about the cost of a full set of carts for it.
There are two other options: el cheapo cartridges as others have pointed out are a lot cheaper than originals, or you can buy individual ones - and I find it hard to believe you've run out of all 6.For me, it's not a problem.
The cartridges last a long time, the photos it produces are wonderful and (so far) are fade-free, and it's a very quick copier/printer for other documents.
The scanner's great too.In summary, the cheapo replacement printer will NOT BE AS GOOD, unless you're only using it for printing, and only printing documents, not display-quality photos.
In which case, she bought the wrong thing to start with.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317466</id>
	<title>Re:Printers don't come with (much) ink.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259838960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You missed the section of  the post that stated he not only purchased a new printer, but additional ink for the new printer for a lower price.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You missed the section of the post that stated he not only purchased a new printer , but additional ink for the new printer for a lower price .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You missed the section of  the post that stated he not only purchased a new printer, but additional ink for the new printer for a lower price.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317490</id>
	<title>Re:Support Kodak's printers send the others a mess</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259839020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They also come with a full set of cartridges out of the box!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They also come with a full set of cartridges out of the box !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They also come with a full set of cartridges out of the box!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320926</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259862300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I next tried pouring my equipment with gasoline because of its high combustibility and hoped the bullets would collide with metal and create sparks. It doesn't work that well.</p></div></blockquote><p>Not only does it not work well, it doesn't work at all (without exotic rounds).  Bullets are normally made of copper and lead.  Both of those materials are used in environments where creating sparks is deadly specifically because they do not spark.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I next tried pouring my equipment with gasoline because of its high combustibility and hoped the bullets would collide with metal and create sparks .
It does n't work that well.Not only does it not work well , it does n't work at all ( without exotic rounds ) .
Bullets are normally made of copper and lead .
Both of those materials are used in environments where creating sparks is deadly specifically because they do not spark .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I next tried pouring my equipment with gasoline because of its high combustibility and hoped the bullets would collide with metal and create sparks.
It doesn't work that well.Not only does it not work well, it doesn't work at all (without exotic rounds).
Bullets are normally made of copper and lead.
Both of those materials are used in environments where creating sparks is deadly specifically because they do not spark.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317926</id>
	<title>Re:Hack it into something inkless</title>
	<author>smellsofbikes</author>
	<datestamp>1259840760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you want something a little more exciting than a knife-based paper cutter, consider a <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=170409876792&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT" title="ebay.com">450mW laser diode module</a> [ebay.com].  It'll do a great job of cutting stuff and it should be capable of light metal cutting.  (Disclaimer: while I'm building one I haven't actually tried it on metal, but I know 350mW was enough to mark copper at a previous job I had, although that was in the green range rather than red.)<p>
However, the problem is getting the printer to run when it thinks it's out of ink: some I've used refuse to do anything until they have a filled cartridge, which is why I'm building mine out of a vintage plotter rather than a printer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want something a little more exciting than a knife-based paper cutter , consider a 450mW laser diode module [ ebay.com ] .
It 'll do a great job of cutting stuff and it should be capable of light metal cutting .
( Disclaimer : while I 'm building one I have n't actually tried it on metal , but I know 350mW was enough to mark copper at a previous job I had , although that was in the green range rather than red .
) However , the problem is getting the printer to run when it thinks it 's out of ink : some I 've used refuse to do anything until they have a filled cartridge , which is why I 'm building mine out of a vintage plotter rather than a printer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want something a little more exciting than a knife-based paper cutter, consider a 450mW laser diode module [ebay.com].
It'll do a great job of cutting stuff and it should be capable of light metal cutting.
(Disclaimer: while I'm building one I haven't actually tried it on metal, but I know 350mW was enough to mark copper at a previous job I had, although that was in the green range rather than red.
)
However, the problem is getting the printer to run when it thinks it's out of ink: some I've used refuse to do anything until they have a filled cartridge, which is why I'm building mine out of a vintage plotter rather than a printer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319356</id>
	<title>Haven't people figured this out already?</title>
	<author>Pyrion</author>
	<datestamp>1259848080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dump inkjets and switch to laser. Color laser printers aren't as cheap as their inkjet counterparts, and the toner cartridges do run you a small fortune, but from a cost-per-page standpoint, laser beats inkjet anyday. I rarely use my laser printer which means, on average, I change out toner cartridges <i>every two years</i>, whereas with an inkjet printer I was changing them out every month because the damned cartridges would clog from disuse. Not a problem with toner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dump inkjets and switch to laser .
Color laser printers are n't as cheap as their inkjet counterparts , and the toner cartridges do run you a small fortune , but from a cost-per-page standpoint , laser beats inkjet anyday .
I rarely use my laser printer which means , on average , I change out toner cartridges every two years , whereas with an inkjet printer I was changing them out every month because the damned cartridges would clog from disuse .
Not a problem with toner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dump inkjets and switch to laser.
Color laser printers aren't as cheap as their inkjet counterparts, and the toner cartridges do run you a small fortune, but from a cost-per-page standpoint, laser beats inkjet anyday.
I rarely use my laser printer which means, on average, I change out toner cartridges every two years, whereas with an inkjet printer I was changing them out every month because the damned cartridges would clog from disuse.
Not a problem with toner.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318006</id>
	<title>Part it Out</title>
	<author>Bob9113</author>
	<datestamp>1259841120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Disassemble it. Printers have stepper motors and gear trains inside that you can use for robotics projects, buttons that can be repurposed, and often have PCB boards with full-size electronic components that can be desoldered for reuse. The plastic shell (with all parts and PCBs stripped) should be ABS and can be incinerated cleanly in a waste-to-energy system with a sufficient chamber temperature and resident time.</p><p>Hacking is the answer to every question.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Disassemble it .
Printers have stepper motors and gear trains inside that you can use for robotics projects , buttons that can be repurposed , and often have PCB boards with full-size electronic components that can be desoldered for reuse .
The plastic shell ( with all parts and PCBs stripped ) should be ABS and can be incinerated cleanly in a waste-to-energy system with a sufficient chamber temperature and resident time.Hacking is the answer to every question .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Disassemble it.
Printers have stepper motors and gear trains inside that you can use for robotics projects, buttons that can be repurposed, and often have PCB boards with full-size electronic components that can be desoldered for reuse.
The plastic shell (with all parts and PCBs stripped) should be ABS and can be incinerated cleanly in a waste-to-energy system with a sufficient chamber temperature and resident time.Hacking is the answer to every question.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317382</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259838720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It depends on what someone wants to do. Black and white consumer laser printers are very affordable. Consumer color laser printers uniformly suck at printing out photographs and other wide gamut artwork - obvious dithering artifacts, poor control of hues, compressed dynamic range and uneven dispersal. Ignoring the cost of  consumables, inexpensive color inkjet printers, with the right medium, are much better at printing out this kind of content. There really aren't many other options in the sub-$500 range for a working artist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It depends on what someone wants to do .
Black and white consumer laser printers are very affordable .
Consumer color laser printers uniformly suck at printing out photographs and other wide gamut artwork - obvious dithering artifacts , poor control of hues , compressed dynamic range and uneven dispersal .
Ignoring the cost of consumables , inexpensive color inkjet printers , with the right medium , are much better at printing out this kind of content .
There really are n't many other options in the sub- $ 500 range for a working artist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It depends on what someone wants to do.
Black and white consumer laser printers are very affordable.
Consumer color laser printers uniformly suck at printing out photographs and other wide gamut artwork - obvious dithering artifacts, poor control of hues, compressed dynamic range and uneven dispersal.
Ignoring the cost of  consumables, inexpensive color inkjet printers, with the right medium, are much better at printing out this kind of content.
There really aren't many other options in the sub-$500 range for a working artist.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316598</id>
	<title>if you live in the Washington/Baltimore area</title>
	<author>Presto Vivace</author>
	<datestamp>1259836260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://turtlewings.com/home/" title="turtlewings.com">Turtle Wings</a> [turtlewings.com] is your best choice for recycling.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Turtle Wings [ turtlewings.com ] is your best choice for recycling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Turtle Wings [turtlewings.com] is your best choice for recycling.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316468</id>
	<title>Well easy.</title>
	<author>bytesex</author>
	<datestamp>1259835900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Terrible business model.  Blame your con-consumers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Terrible business model .
Blame your con-consumers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Terrible business model.
Blame your con-consumers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317982</id>
	<title>Re:The old fashioned way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259841060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please cancel my subscription to your newsletter - it's causing my dog to eat the post each morning.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please cancel my subscription to your newsletter - it 's causing my dog to eat the post each morning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please cancel my subscription to your newsletter - it's causing my dog to eat the post each morning.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316884</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>AdamThor</author>
	<datestamp>1259837040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Indeed. Laser might have higher upfront cost, but tend to cost a lot less per page.</i></p><p>Additionally, if you only print occationally Laser is an even better bargain.  Ink cartridges will dry out wether you use them or not.  Toner lasts much longer.  Color lasers are less and less expensive, as well.</p><p>If you only print a few things a year it's easy to think "I'll get a cheap inkjet, I can't justify more."  But you'll get very little printing per ink cartridge and this will be a very expensive case.</p><p>That's how I found it before I got my HP Laserjet 2600n anyway.  It's been great and only cost me $250.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed .
Laser might have higher upfront cost , but tend to cost a lot less per page.Additionally , if you only print occationally Laser is an even better bargain .
Ink cartridges will dry out wether you use them or not .
Toner lasts much longer .
Color lasers are less and less expensive , as well.If you only print a few things a year it 's easy to think " I 'll get a cheap inkjet , I ca n't justify more .
" But you 'll get very little printing per ink cartridge and this will be a very expensive case.That 's how I found it before I got my HP Laserjet 2600n anyway .
It 's been great and only cost me $ 250 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed.
Laser might have higher upfront cost, but tend to cost a lot less per page.Additionally, if you only print occationally Laser is an even better bargain.
Ink cartridges will dry out wether you use them or not.
Toner lasts much longer.
Color lasers are less and less expensive, as well.If you only print a few things a year it's easy to think "I'll get a cheap inkjet, I can't justify more.
"  But you'll get very little printing per ink cartridge and this will be a very expensive case.That's how I found it before I got my HP Laserjet 2600n anyway.
It's been great and only cost me $250.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317852</id>
	<title>Buy a laser printer</title>
	<author>fuzzylollipop</author>
	<datestamp>1259840400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I picked up a Brother laser printer at Office Depot for $49US no rebates it came with a "starter" cart good for 1000 pages, the "standard" size toner cart is $26US and is good for 1,500 pages, the "pro" size is $50US and is good for 3000 pages. Cheapest I could get a replacement toner for my mother in laws really old Xerox was $90US. So it is much cheaper to get a newer printer, better resolution and faster for less than the price of a replacement toner cart.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I picked up a Brother laser printer at Office Depot for $ 49US no rebates it came with a " starter " cart good for 1000 pages , the " standard " size toner cart is $ 26US and is good for 1,500 pages , the " pro " size is $ 50US and is good for 3000 pages .
Cheapest I could get a replacement toner for my mother in laws really old Xerox was $ 90US .
So it is much cheaper to get a newer printer , better resolution and faster for less than the price of a replacement toner cart .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I picked up a Brother laser printer at Office Depot for $49US no rebates it came with a "starter" cart good for 1000 pages, the "standard" size toner cart is $26US and is good for 1,500 pages, the "pro" size is $50US and is good for 3000 pages.
Cheapest I could get a replacement toner for my mother in laws really old Xerox was $90US.
So it is much cheaper to get a newer printer, better resolution and faster for less than the price of a replacement toner cart.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30362906</id>
	<title>Re:If I ran my country</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260265560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, you should run your country. What's the point in having a country if you're not going to run it?</p><p>I, OTOH, only have a share in a country, rather than a whole country to myself -- this requires me to constrain my rules to those practical to enforce and practical to get approval by a majority of us shareholders, or rather our representatives.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , you should run your country .
What 's the point in having a country if you 're not going to run it ? I , OTOH , only have a share in a country , rather than a whole country to myself -- this requires me to constrain my rules to those practical to enforce and practical to get approval by a majority of us shareholders , or rather our representatives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, you should run your country.
What's the point in having a country if you're not going to run it?I, OTOH, only have a share in a country, rather than a whole country to myself -- this requires me to constrain my rules to those practical to enforce and practical to get approval by a majority of us shareholders, or rather our representatives.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316526</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316776</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He doesn't want a laser, he wants to print color, like 99.9999\% of home consumers. The "photo" in the printer type gave that away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He does n't want a laser , he wants to print color , like 99.9999 \ % of home consumers .
The " photo " in the printer type gave that away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He doesn't want a laser, he wants to print color, like 99.9999\% of home consumers.
The "photo" in the printer type gave that away.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320268</id>
	<title>Re:repurpose, refill</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259855640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>You could just go buy an ink refill kit and refill existing cartridges</p></div></blockquote><p>Doesn't work on modern ink-jets, particularly greedy companies COUGH cough HP, puts electronics in the cartridge specifically to keep them from being recognized by the printer if they are re-filled.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You could just go buy an ink refill kit and refill existing cartridgesDoes n't work on modern ink-jets , particularly greedy companies COUGH cough HP , puts electronics in the cartridge specifically to keep them from being recognized by the printer if they are re-filled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could just go buy an ink refill kit and refill existing cartridgesDoesn't work on modern ink-jets, particularly greedy companies COUGH cough HP, puts electronics in the cartridge specifically to keep them from being recognized by the printer if they are re-filled.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316448</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317744</id>
	<title>Solution</title>
	<author>ShooterNeo</author>
	<datestamp>1259839980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pony up $56 for plenty of ink.</p><p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Continuous-Ink-System-For-Epson-R260-R380-RX580-Printer\_W0QQitemZ370299562964QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI\_Toner?hash=item563792ebd4" title="ebay.com">http://cgi.ebay.com/Continuous-Ink-System-For-Epson-R260-R380-RX580-Printer\_W0QQitemZ370299562964QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI\_Toner?hash=item563792ebd4</a> [ebay.com]</p><p>I'll take the printer off your hands if you don't want it.  I'll give you $10 plus shipping.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pony up $ 56 for plenty of ink.http : //cgi.ebay.com/Continuous-Ink-System-For-Epson-R260-R380-RX580-Printer \ _W0QQitemZ370299562964QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI \ _Toner ? hash = item563792ebd4 [ ebay.com ] I 'll take the printer off your hands if you do n't want it .
I 'll give you $ 10 plus shipping .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pony up $56 for plenty of ink.http://cgi.ebay.com/Continuous-Ink-System-For-Epson-R260-R380-RX580-Printer\_W0QQitemZ370299562964QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI\_Toner?hash=item563792ebd4 [ebay.com]I'll take the printer off your hands if you don't want it.
I'll give you $10 plus shipping.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30323538</id>
	<title>Freecycle</title>
	<author>intheshelter</author>
	<datestamp>1259941260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If they have a Freecycle distro for your area (Google it) you can get rid of it painlessly and to someone who probably needs it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If they have a Freecycle distro for your area ( Google it ) you can get rid of it painlessly and to someone who probably needs it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they have a Freecycle distro for your area (Google it) you can get rid of it painlessly and to someone who probably needs it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321344</id>
	<title>Re:Prevent.</title>
	<author>Ceriel Nosforit</author>
	<datestamp>1259867820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's roll. I just finished disassembling an Epson printer to clean the nozzles after I had its ink refilled by a local businessman specialized in the task. I now have an undying hatred for Epson, and planning on testing the killer machine I'll create from the parts at their HQ.</p><p>I think I'll call my creation the "Blood-Jet".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's roll .
I just finished disassembling an Epson printer to clean the nozzles after I had its ink refilled by a local businessman specialized in the task .
I now have an undying hatred for Epson , and planning on testing the killer machine I 'll create from the parts at their HQ.I think I 'll call my creation the " Blood-Jet " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's roll.
I just finished disassembling an Epson printer to clean the nozzles after I had its ink refilled by a local businessman specialized in the task.
I now have an undying hatred for Epson, and planning on testing the killer machine I'll create from the parts at their HQ.I think I'll call my creation the "Blood-Jet".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316508</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318048</id>
	<title>Get yourself a color laser</title>
	<author>Joce640k</author>
	<datestamp>1259841360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and get completely off the inkjet treadmill.</p><p>You will NOT regret it.</p><p>The day I switched was when I needed to replace a color in my inkjet, and the new one needed a head clean. By the time it finished cleaning another color needed replacing...rinse, repeat. It took me half an hour to get all the colors working and when I was done a couple of my 'new' cartridges were 25\% gone (you want an option to clean a single color? LOL!). I figure it cost me over $20 to print those two pages (and I arrived late for an appointment...)</p><p>It was junked soon after that and I bought a color laser. With the laser I just switch on and print. No muss, no fuss.</p><p>It cost me about the same as three sets of inkjet cartridges and I figure it's going to print ten times as many pages.</p><p>If your printer usage is "occasional" then don't even *think* of buying an inkjet. No, scratch that... just don't buy inkjets, period. <b>Say no</b>. They look cheap in the store but they're the biggest ripoff in IT.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and get completely off the inkjet treadmill.You will NOT regret it.The day I switched was when I needed to replace a color in my inkjet , and the new one needed a head clean .
By the time it finished cleaning another color needed replacing...rinse , repeat .
It took me half an hour to get all the colors working and when I was done a couple of my 'new ' cartridges were 25 \ % gone ( you want an option to clean a single color ?
LOL ! ) . I figure it cost me over $ 20 to print those two pages ( and I arrived late for an appointment... ) It was junked soon after that and I bought a color laser .
With the laser I just switch on and print .
No muss , no fuss.It cost me about the same as three sets of inkjet cartridges and I figure it 's going to print ten times as many pages.If your printer usage is " occasional " then do n't even * think * of buying an inkjet .
No , scratch that... just do n't buy inkjets , period .
Say no .
They look cheap in the store but they 're the biggest ripoff in IT .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and get completely off the inkjet treadmill.You will NOT regret it.The day I switched was when I needed to replace a color in my inkjet, and the new one needed a head clean.
By the time it finished cleaning another color needed replacing...rinse, repeat.
It took me half an hour to get all the colors working and when I was done a couple of my 'new' cartridges were 25\% gone (you want an option to clean a single color?
LOL!). I figure it cost me over $20 to print those two pages (and I arrived late for an appointment...)It was junked soon after that and I bought a color laser.
With the laser I just switch on and print.
No muss, no fuss.It cost me about the same as three sets of inkjet cartridges and I figure it's going to print ten times as many pages.If your printer usage is "occasional" then don't even *think* of buying an inkjet.
No, scratch that... just don't buy inkjets, period.
Say no.
They look cheap in the store but they're the biggest ripoff in IT.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316416</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320900</id>
	<title>Help the environment</title>
	<author>SEWilco</author>
	<datestamp>1259862060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Practice printer sequestration.  Keep your old printers out of the environment.  Use them for footstools, coffee tables, stack them to replace your sofa, bedside table, bed, cover the wall with them instead of wallpaper, fill your basement so you add additional support to help hold up all the printers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Practice printer sequestration .
Keep your old printers out of the environment .
Use them for footstools , coffee tables , stack them to replace your sofa , bedside table , bed , cover the wall with them instead of wallpaper , fill your basement so you add additional support to help hold up all the printers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Practice printer sequestration.
Keep your old printers out of the environment.
Use them for footstools, coffee tables, stack them to replace your sofa, bedside table, bed, cover the wall with them instead of wallpaper, fill your basement so you add additional support to help hold up all the printers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316932</id>
	<title>Re:Refilll</title>
	<author>thesameguy</author>
	<datestamp>1259837220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have several Epson inkjets at the office which all use a continuous ink system.  They're cheap on the net, though quality varies so be cautious.  Quality is about 90\% of Genuine Epson Ink, cost is about 10\%.  Works for me.  Takes up a little more space, saves painful refilling of ink cartridges.  After we go through about 300-400ml of ink (per color) the heads are pretty much shot and we replace the printer. Standard ink cartridges are 10-15ml (per color), so we get our money's worth.

If your printer can use a setup like this, I'd recommend it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have several Epson inkjets at the office which all use a continuous ink system .
They 're cheap on the net , though quality varies so be cautious .
Quality is about 90 \ % of Genuine Epson Ink , cost is about 10 \ % .
Works for me .
Takes up a little more space , saves painful refilling of ink cartridges .
After we go through about 300-400ml of ink ( per color ) the heads are pretty much shot and we replace the printer .
Standard ink cartridges are 10-15ml ( per color ) , so we get our money 's worth .
If your printer can use a setup like this , I 'd recommend it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have several Epson inkjets at the office which all use a continuous ink system.
They're cheap on the net, though quality varies so be cautious.
Quality is about 90\% of Genuine Epson Ink, cost is about 10\%.
Works for me.
Takes up a little more space, saves painful refilling of ink cartridges.
After we go through about 300-400ml of ink (per color) the heads are pretty much shot and we replace the printer.
Standard ink cartridges are 10-15ml (per color), so we get our money's worth.
If your printer can use a setup like this, I'd recommend it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316504</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316980</id>
	<title>See if you can get a refill kit</title>
	<author>okmijnuhb</author>
	<datestamp>1259837400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sometimes you can find after market refill kits, with which you can inexpensively refill your cartridge.<br> <br>

It's truly sad and disgusting when we have a society based on swindling one another. <br> <br>

Another peeve of mine; Tropicana juice and Haagen Dazs ice cream, once sold in  pints (16 oz) are now 14 oz. <br> <br>

Caveat Emptor!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sometimes you can find after market refill kits , with which you can inexpensively refill your cartridge .
It 's truly sad and disgusting when we have a society based on swindling one another .
Another peeve of mine ; Tropicana juice and Haagen Dazs ice cream , once sold in pints ( 16 oz ) are now 14 oz .
Caveat Emptor !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sometimes you can find after market refill kits, with which you can inexpensively refill your cartridge.
It's truly sad and disgusting when we have a society based on swindling one another.
Another peeve of mine; Tropicana juice and Haagen Dazs ice cream, once sold in  pints (16 oz) are now 14 oz.
Caveat Emptor!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320526</id>
	<title>Nukes, not printers...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259857980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I could care less about printers, but the fact that the same model is used in the nuclear industry is abhorring. Rather then developing the Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor for which there would be plenty of thorium fuel (thorium is way more abundant than Uranium) they keep selling the Uranium technology so they can keep selling fuel at premium prices. In effect running a fuel cycle, as opposed to the Thorium one, which is know for its notoriety as a source of fissile material which can potentially end in nuclear weapons. Thorium on the other hand has a fraction of waste by-products and barely any significant quantity of potential weapons materials.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I could care less about printers , but the fact that the same model is used in the nuclear industry is abhorring .
Rather then developing the Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor for which there would be plenty of thorium fuel ( thorium is way more abundant than Uranium ) they keep selling the Uranium technology so they can keep selling fuel at premium prices .
In effect running a fuel cycle , as opposed to the Thorium one , which is know for its notoriety as a source of fissile material which can potentially end in nuclear weapons .
Thorium on the other hand has a fraction of waste by-products and barely any significant quantity of potential weapons materials .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I could care less about printers, but the fact that the same model is used in the nuclear industry is abhorring.
Rather then developing the Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor for which there would be plenty of thorium fuel (thorium is way more abundant than Uranium) they keep selling the Uranium technology so they can keep selling fuel at premium prices.
In effect running a fuel cycle, as opposed to the Thorium one, which is know for its notoriety as a source of fissile material which can potentially end in nuclear weapons.
Thorium on the other hand has a fraction of waste by-products and barely any significant quantity of potential weapons materials.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321662</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>ifwm</author>
	<datestamp>1259959020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Using a shotgun was a little risky because of the potential of those pellets scattering and bouncing back when hitting metal parts."</p><p>You're a fucking idiot.  Seriously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Using a shotgun was a little risky because of the potential of those pellets scattering and bouncing back when hitting metal parts .
" You 're a fucking idiot .
Seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Using a shotgun was a little risky because of the potential of those pellets scattering and bouncing back when hitting metal parts.
"You're a fucking idiot.
Seriously.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316484</id>
	<title>Just Throw it away</title>
	<author>keithpreston</author>
	<datestamp>1259835960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Throwing it away is the only way to break this bad pricing model.   The printer company will lose the potential revenue stream from ink on that specific printer and might eventually come to its senses and have a good pricing model.   In fact doing this a lot of times will help.    I must say that I've been tempted when I found a sale in which printer + ink was cheaper then ink alone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Throwing it away is the only way to break this bad pricing model .
The printer company will lose the potential revenue stream from ink on that specific printer and might eventually come to its senses and have a good pricing model .
In fact doing this a lot of times will help .
I must say that I 've been tempted when I found a sale in which printer + ink was cheaper then ink alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Throwing it away is the only way to break this bad pricing model.
The printer company will lose the potential revenue stream from ink on that specific printer and might eventually come to its senses and have a good pricing model.
In fact doing this a lot of times will help.
I must say that I've been tempted when I found a sale in which printer + ink was cheaper then ink alone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316876</id>
	<title>Call House MD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259837040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not use a syringe to re-fill the old cartridges? U can bulk buy the ink but I think there's an upper limit on the number of times u can refill these cartridges. See it pays to have lived in a poor country!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not use a syringe to re-fill the old cartridges ?
U can bulk buy the ink but I think there 's an upper limit on the number of times u can refill these cartridges .
See it pays to have lived in a poor country !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not use a syringe to re-fill the old cartridges?
U can bulk buy the ink but I think there's an upper limit on the number of times u can refill these cartridges.
See it pays to have lived in a poor country!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320226</id>
	<title>Re:Compare to the gas tax</title>
	<author>ChrisMP1</author>
	<datestamp>1259855280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, since you don't sell roads to people, and you can't put a toll booth at every entrance to every road, how exactly do you propose the roads be paid for?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , since you do n't sell roads to people , and you ca n't put a toll booth at every entrance to every road , how exactly do you propose the roads be paid for ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, since you don't sell roads to people, and you can't put a toll booth at every entrance to every road, how exactly do you propose the roads be paid for?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317610</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320148</id>
	<title>Re:Don't buy inkjets period</title>
	<author>antdude</author>
	<datestamp>1259854380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Aren't new color laser printers expensive? One thing bugged me about inkjets is their ink cartridges dry up too fast even if not used a lot (e.g., a few pages per month).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are n't new color laser printers expensive ?
One thing bugged me about inkjets is their ink cartridges dry up too fast even if not used a lot ( e.g. , a few pages per month ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aren't new color laser printers expensive?
One thing bugged me about inkjets is their ink cartridges dry up too fast even if not used a lot (e.g., a few pages per month).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321302</id>
	<title>Re:If I ran my country</title>
	<author>rdnetto</author>
	<datestamp>1259867040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If I ran my country (and I really think I should)</p> </div><p>Here's one way to go about it: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality\_of\_Hutt\_River" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality\_of\_Hutt\_River</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I ran my country ( and I really think I should ) Here 's one way to go about it : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality \ _of \ _Hutt \ _River [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I ran my country (and I really think I should) Here's one way to go about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality\_of\_Hutt\_River [wikipedia.org]
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318670</id>
	<title>Two suggestions, Goodwil and Ebay</title>
	<author>stonewolf</author>
	<datestamp>1259844300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was faced with the same problem several years ago. I found that Goodwill actually grinds printers into little chunks. They then separate the chunks into plastic and metal and sell them. They sell all they can get. Do not through it away, give it to Goodwill. OTOH, if you are into DIY then you can look at an old printer as a gold mine. There is at least one, maybe two very nice stepping motors, some nice gears, and a couple of stainless steel rods inside each printer.</p><p>I solved the printer problem by using Ebay to find a place here in town that refurbishes laser printers. Just searched for what I wanted and then said I want pick up only. Found several place within 15 miles. I bought a refurbished HP 4050N for $80, and a refurbished print cartridge for ~$100. The cartridge is rated for about 10,00 pages and looks like it will get there. Average cost, about 2 cents per printed page. I've not yet had to replace the print cartridge.</p><p>Before posting I went to EBay and checked for "color laser printer". You can buy a descent new color laser printer for less than $200. You can get a home quality one for under $100. It looks like you can even get an HP 4550n "gently used" for under $100. That's an industrial quality printer, built like a freaking battleship, for almost nothing.</p><p>Why would anyone buy anything other than a laser printer these days? Oh, yeah, photos.... I forgot. Isn't it cheaper to have those printed by an online service? I know that not everyone lives a mile from a Walgreens, but a lot of us do. It seems I can send a photo to them, and pick it up in a couple of hours. Why would I want to own a photo printer? That works even when I am on the road. Just find a local store and pick them up on my way out of town.</p><p>Stonewolf</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was faced with the same problem several years ago .
I found that Goodwill actually grinds printers into little chunks .
They then separate the chunks into plastic and metal and sell them .
They sell all they can get .
Do not through it away , give it to Goodwill .
OTOH , if you are into DIY then you can look at an old printer as a gold mine .
There is at least one , maybe two very nice stepping motors , some nice gears , and a couple of stainless steel rods inside each printer.I solved the printer problem by using Ebay to find a place here in town that refurbishes laser printers .
Just searched for what I wanted and then said I want pick up only .
Found several place within 15 miles .
I bought a refurbished HP 4050N for $ 80 , and a refurbished print cartridge for ~ $ 100 .
The cartridge is rated for about 10,00 pages and looks like it will get there .
Average cost , about 2 cents per printed page .
I 've not yet had to replace the print cartridge.Before posting I went to EBay and checked for " color laser printer " .
You can buy a descent new color laser printer for less than $ 200 .
You can get a home quality one for under $ 100 .
It looks like you can even get an HP 4550n " gently used " for under $ 100 .
That 's an industrial quality printer , built like a freaking battleship , for almost nothing.Why would anyone buy anything other than a laser printer these days ?
Oh , yeah , photos.... I forgot .
Is n't it cheaper to have those printed by an online service ?
I know that not everyone lives a mile from a Walgreens , but a lot of us do .
It seems I can send a photo to them , and pick it up in a couple of hours .
Why would I want to own a photo printer ?
That works even when I am on the road .
Just find a local store and pick them up on my way out of town.Stonewolf</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was faced with the same problem several years ago.
I found that Goodwill actually grinds printers into little chunks.
They then separate the chunks into plastic and metal and sell them.
They sell all they can get.
Do not through it away, give it to Goodwill.
OTOH, if you are into DIY then you can look at an old printer as a gold mine.
There is at least one, maybe two very nice stepping motors, some nice gears, and a couple of stainless steel rods inside each printer.I solved the printer problem by using Ebay to find a place here in town that refurbishes laser printers.
Just searched for what I wanted and then said I want pick up only.
Found several place within 15 miles.
I bought a refurbished HP 4050N for $80, and a refurbished print cartridge for ~$100.
The cartridge is rated for about 10,00 pages and looks like it will get there.
Average cost, about 2 cents per printed page.
I've not yet had to replace the print cartridge.Before posting I went to EBay and checked for "color laser printer".
You can buy a descent new color laser printer for less than $200.
You can get a home quality one for under $100.
It looks like you can even get an HP 4550n "gently used" for under $100.
That's an industrial quality printer, built like a freaking battleship, for almost nothing.Why would anyone buy anything other than a laser printer these days?
Oh, yeah, photos.... I forgot.
Isn't it cheaper to have those printed by an online service?
I know that not everyone lives a mile from a Walgreens, but a lot of us do.
It seems I can send a photo to them, and pick it up in a couple of hours.
Why would I want to own a photo printer?
That works even when I am on the road.
Just find a local store and pick them up on my way out of town.Stonewolf</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30324584</id>
	<title>Easy... Stop buying inkjets</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259946360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just stop buying Inkjets.  Color Lasers have dropped in price and provide better output and cost less over the life of the printer.  Problem solved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just stop buying Inkjets .
Color Lasers have dropped in price and provide better output and cost less over the life of the printer .
Problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just stop buying Inkjets.
Color Lasers have dropped in price and provide better output and cost less over the life of the printer.
Problem solved.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317908</id>
	<title>hack it!</title>
	<author>J05H</author>
	<datestamp>1259840640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I dismantle old printers, especially inkjets, for components for Arduino microcontroller projects. Each inkjet has at least 2 stepper motors, a bunch of LEDs and some precision rails.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I dismantle old printers , especially inkjets , for components for Arduino microcontroller projects .
Each inkjet has at least 2 stepper motors , a bunch of LEDs and some precision rails .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dismantle old printers, especially inkjets, for components for Arduino microcontroller projects.
Each inkjet has at least 2 stepper motors, a bunch of LEDs and some precision rails.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316966</id>
	<title>Buy on ebay?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259837340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can often find off-brand inks on ebay as well. The ink for my printer is around $50 retail, but I can get refillable cartridges (I never refill them. Cheap enough to where I'm fine with rebuying them) that are the same size and same quality for $20.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can often find off-brand inks on ebay as well .
The ink for my printer is around $ 50 retail , but I can get refillable cartridges ( I never refill them .
Cheap enough to where I 'm fine with rebuying them ) that are the same size and same quality for $ 20 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can often find off-brand inks on ebay as well.
The ink for my printer is around $50 retail, but I can get refillable cartridges (I never refill them.
Cheap enough to where I'm fine with rebuying them) that are the same size and same quality for $20.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317548</id>
	<title>Old news that never gets old!</title>
	<author>macraig</author>
	<datestamp>1259839200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This sort of misbehavior in the consumer printer market is truly old news, but it never stays old because there are MILLIONS of people who never got the original memos.  This Ask Slashdot is a reminder just how many people there are who continue to be disadvantaged by these tactics that some of us have known about for a decade.  Where are the Ralph Naders of the tech world when you really need them?  (When they're not busy running for public office, that is.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This sort of misbehavior in the consumer printer market is truly old news , but it never stays old because there are MILLIONS of people who never got the original memos .
This Ask Slashdot is a reminder just how many people there are who continue to be disadvantaged by these tactics that some of us have known about for a decade .
Where are the Ralph Naders of the tech world when you really need them ?
( When they 're not busy running for public office , that is .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This sort of misbehavior in the consumer printer market is truly old news, but it never stays old because there are MILLIONS of people who never got the original memos.
This Ask Slashdot is a reminder just how many people there are who continue to be disadvantaged by these tactics that some of us have known about for a decade.
Where are the Ralph Naders of the tech world when you really need them?
(When they're not busy running for public office, that is.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322944</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1259937240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> PostScript over Network is the must in terms of compatibility</p></div><p>If you're buying a cheap laser, remember that it will only have something like a 50MHz MIPS CPU for running the PostScript VM.  If it also supports PCL, then you'll get much better print speeds with that, especially with complex PostScript generated from something like LaTeX.  If not, then your best bet is to convert the PostScript to PDF and then back again before sending it to the printer.  This will unwind all of the loops (PostScript is Turing-complete, PDF is not) and produce a larger PostScript file, but one that executes a lot faster.  Even a relatively old laptop has a much faster CPU than a cheap laser printer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>PostScript over Network is the must in terms of compatibilityIf you 're buying a cheap laser , remember that it will only have something like a 50MHz MIPS CPU for running the PostScript VM .
If it also supports PCL , then you 'll get much better print speeds with that , especially with complex PostScript generated from something like LaTeX .
If not , then your best bet is to convert the PostScript to PDF and then back again before sending it to the printer .
This will unwind all of the loops ( PostScript is Turing-complete , PDF is not ) and produce a larger PostScript file , but one that executes a lot faster .
Even a relatively old laptop has a much faster CPU than a cheap laser printer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> PostScript over Network is the must in terms of compatibilityIf you're buying a cheap laser, remember that it will only have something like a 50MHz MIPS CPU for running the PostScript VM.
If it also supports PCL, then you'll get much better print speeds with that, especially with complex PostScript generated from something like LaTeX.
If not, then your best bet is to convert the PostScript to PDF and then back again before sending it to the printer.
This will unwind all of the loops (PostScript is Turing-complete, PDF is not) and produce a larger PostScript file, but one that executes a lot faster.
Even a relatively old laptop has a much faster CPU than a cheap laser printer.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317418</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>emj</author>
	<datestamp>1259838840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nah most cheap lasers do not do Postscript (this is from when I bought a printer in 2001).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nah most cheap lasers do not do Postscript ( this is from when I bought a printer in 2001 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nah most cheap lasers do not do Postscript (this is from when I bought a printer in 2001).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</id>
	<title>not a bargain</title>
	<author>Speare</author>
	<datestamp>1259835840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>
<p>The new printer you bought came with "demo" ink cartridges that are nearly empty, compared with full ones.  You didn't get a bargain.</p><p>Personally, while I understand the business doctrine of "whatever the market will bear," I think it's time that Congress look into market collusion and racketeering.  There's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The new printer you bought came with " demo " ink cartridges that are nearly empty , compared with full ones .
You did n't get a bargain.Personally , while I understand the business doctrine of " whatever the market will bear , " I think it 's time that Congress look into market collusion and racketeering .
There 's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
The new printer you bought came with "demo" ink cartridges that are nearly empty, compared with full ones.
You didn't get a bargain.Personally, while I understand the business doctrine of "whatever the market will bear," I think it's time that Congress look into market collusion and racketeering.
There's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316792</id>
	<title>Refill toner and/or ink yourself</title>
	<author>rabtech</author>
	<datestamp>1259836860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got tired of having to buy a new color laser printer every time the cartridges ran out, so I just buy toner refill kits now. The average drum can last 3-6 refills and the company provided replacement chips to fool the printer into thinking it was a new cartridge.</p><p>Inkjet refills are also fairly easy, or you can buy cheap replacements online. Just be wary of the vacuum-sealed carts (I think Epson liked to use those) that cause major issues if you try to refill them.</p><p>That's also why I generally preferred Canon printers back when I owned Inkjets: Their inks were in individual tanks so you could replace just the colors that needed it. The heads were also a separate assembly, so the tank only held ink. Official replacement tanks were about 10 bucks each, which is not bad when you compare it to HP's outrageous prices.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got tired of having to buy a new color laser printer every time the cartridges ran out , so I just buy toner refill kits now .
The average drum can last 3-6 refills and the company provided replacement chips to fool the printer into thinking it was a new cartridge.Inkjet refills are also fairly easy , or you can buy cheap replacements online .
Just be wary of the vacuum-sealed carts ( I think Epson liked to use those ) that cause major issues if you try to refill them.That 's also why I generally preferred Canon printers back when I owned Inkjets : Their inks were in individual tanks so you could replace just the colors that needed it .
The heads were also a separate assembly , so the tank only held ink .
Official replacement tanks were about 10 bucks each , which is not bad when you compare it to HP 's outrageous prices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got tired of having to buy a new color laser printer every time the cartridges ran out, so I just buy toner refill kits now.
The average drum can last 3-6 refills and the company provided replacement chips to fool the printer into thinking it was a new cartridge.Inkjet refills are also fairly easy, or you can buy cheap replacements online.
Just be wary of the vacuum-sealed carts (I think Epson liked to use those) that cause major issues if you try to refill them.That's also why I generally preferred Canon printers back when I owned Inkjets: Their inks were in individual tanks so you could replace just the colors that needed it.
The heads were also a separate assembly, so the tank only held ink.
Official replacement tanks were about 10 bucks each, which is not bad when you compare it to HP's outrageous prices.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316682</id>
	<title>prin-ter?</title>
	<author>spidercoz</author>
	<datestamp>1259836440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You still print stuff?  Like, on paper?
<br> <br>
Luddite.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You still print stuff ?
Like , on paper ?
Luddite .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You still print stuff?
Like, on paper?
Luddite.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319686</id>
	<title>Re:If I ran my country</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259850840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If I ran my country (and I really think I should) it would be illegal to sell a device at a loss in order to gouge  on the consumables. In addition, they would be required to accept the return of any hardware they sell for environmentally acceptable disposal, meaning it would need to built into the price. I think some countries may already do this on some products.</p></div><p>Germany, at least, has laws that prohibit the use of loss leaders, which Walmart ran a foul of a few years ago and got fined quite abit.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I ran my country ( and I really think I should ) it would be illegal to sell a device at a loss in order to gouge on the consumables .
In addition , they would be required to accept the return of any hardware they sell for environmentally acceptable disposal , meaning it would need to built into the price .
I think some countries may already do this on some products.Germany , at least , has laws that prohibit the use of loss leaders , which Walmart ran a foul of a few years ago and got fined quite abit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I ran my country (and I really think I should) it would be illegal to sell a device at a loss in order to gouge  on the consumables.
In addition, they would be required to accept the return of any hardware they sell for environmentally acceptable disposal, meaning it would need to built into the price.
I think some countries may already do this on some products.Germany, at least, has laws that prohibit the use of loss leaders, which Walmart ran a foul of a few years ago and got fined quite abit.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322100</id>
	<title>I know. it's been said before...</title>
	<author>thephydes</author>
	<datestamp>1259923080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Buy a laser printer!!!!!!!

Unless you "need" colour - and lets face it most of us don't - buy a mono laser. Higher initial cost, longer life, cheaper per page cartridges..... hell you'd have to be mad not to.

We went mono laser while our children were still at school because of the costs of them printing a colour page and then binning it because they noticed a mistake..  No guys, you want colour, you colour it!

Now we have mono networked laser - Brother 8460N. I'm sure there are similar other brand printers out there that are just as good.

Do we print in colour? Yes! at the friggen photo booth.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Buy a laser printer ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Unless you " need " colour - and lets face it most of us do n't - buy a mono laser .
Higher initial cost , longer life , cheaper per page cartridges..... hell you 'd have to be mad not to .
We went mono laser while our children were still at school because of the costs of them printing a colour page and then binning it because they noticed a mistake.. No guys , you want colour , you colour it !
Now we have mono networked laser - Brother 8460N .
I 'm sure there are similar other brand printers out there that are just as good .
Do we print in colour ?
Yes ! at the friggen photo booth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Buy a laser printer!!!!!!!
Unless you "need" colour - and lets face it most of us don't - buy a mono laser.
Higher initial cost, longer life, cheaper per page cartridges..... hell you'd have to be mad not to.
We went mono laser while our children were still at school because of the costs of them printing a colour page and then binning it because they noticed a mistake..  No guys, you want colour, you colour it!
Now we have mono networked laser - Brother 8460N.
I'm sure there are similar other brand printers out there that are just as good.
Do we print in colour?
Yes! at the friggen photo booth.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319008</id>
	<title>Printing things is so...90's</title>
	<author>OpinionatedDude</author>
	<datestamp>1259846220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why the heck do you need to print anything anymore?
Forget the e-waste dude, you're a tree killer!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why the heck do you need to print anything anymore ?
Forget the e-waste dude , you 're a tree killer !
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why the heck do you need to print anything anymore?
Forget the e-waste dude, you're a tree killer!
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321628</id>
	<title>Just buy a refill ink and possibly resetter...</title>
	<author>Brane2</author>
	<datestamp>1259958360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use this with all my Epsons and it works beautifully and by far the cheapest.</p><p>Refilling the cartridge takes me maybe 2 mins all in all.<br>It's nice to have thin latex gloves if a drop of ink spills, it's kinda hard to wash out from hands and fabric, but that's a minor bump...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use this with all my Epsons and it works beautifully and by far the cheapest.Refilling the cartridge takes me maybe 2 mins all in all.It 's nice to have thin latex gloves if a drop of ink spills , it 's kinda hard to wash out from hands and fabric , but that 's a minor bump.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use this with all my Epsons and it works beautifully and by far the cheapest.Refilling the cartridge takes me maybe 2 mins all in all.It's nice to have thin latex gloves if a drop of ink spills, it's kinda hard to wash out from hands and fabric, but that's a minor bump...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318844</id>
	<title>Refill for cheap</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259845320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are booths in the hallways of every mall that will refill the cartridges for cheap. You can get a kit at the dollar store that lets you do your own refilling, and it works great.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are booths in the hallways of every mall that will refill the cartridges for cheap .
You can get a kit at the dollar store that lets you do your own refilling , and it works great .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are booths in the hallways of every mall that will refill the cartridges for cheap.
You can get a kit at the dollar store that lets you do your own refilling, and it works great.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317186</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>gandhi\_2</author>
	<datestamp>1259838000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"tend to?"</p><p>An HP 3700cn costs around a 1.5 cents a page compared to an HP PSC 1300xi, which we found to be close to 15 cents a page.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" tend to ?
" An HP 3700cn costs around a 1.5 cents a page compared to an HP PSC 1300xi , which we found to be close to 15 cents a page .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"tend to?
"An HP 3700cn costs around a 1.5 cents a page compared to an HP PSC 1300xi, which we found to be close to 15 cents a page.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316640</id>
	<title>Hope it wasn't one of those Kodak Printers...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...because from what I have seen they are garbage. YMMV, but the one I got was extremely loud and jammed (as in an entire sheet of paper bunched up behind the printhead jammed) literally every other time I tried to actually print with it. The ink may be cheap but the hardware is garbage. Got a Canon as a bonus on a Newegg purchase and haven't looked back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...because from what I have seen they are garbage .
YMMV , but the one I got was extremely loud and jammed ( as in an entire sheet of paper bunched up behind the printhead jammed ) literally every other time I tried to actually print with it .
The ink may be cheap but the hardware is garbage .
Got a Canon as a bonus on a Newegg purchase and have n't looked back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...because from what I have seen they are garbage.
YMMV, but the one I got was extremely loud and jammed (as in an entire sheet of paper bunched up behind the printhead jammed) literally every other time I tried to actually print with it.
The ink may be cheap but the hardware is garbage.
Got a Canon as a bonus on a Newegg purchase and haven't looked back.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322602</id>
	<title>Win-Win Solution</title>
	<author>some old guy</author>
	<datestamp>1259933460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Buy a new printer every time the ink runs out, donate the old one to a school or charity for the tax credit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Buy a new printer every time the ink runs out , donate the old one to a school or charity for the tax credit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Buy a new printer every time the ink runs out, donate the old one to a school or charity for the tax credit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317056</id>
	<title>Re:The old fashioned way</title>
	<author>dr00g911</author>
	<datestamp>1259837640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's just what they want!</p><p>The printer manufacturers are <b>after</b> your precious bodily fluids!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's just what they want ! The printer manufacturers are after your precious bodily fluids !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's just what they want!The printer manufacturers are after your precious bodily fluids!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30329154</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Drantin</author>
	<datestamp>1259922360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>[...] epsom printers[...]</p></div><p>They make printers out of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epsom\_salts" title="wikipedia.org">salt</a> [wikipedia.org] now?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ ... ] epsom printers [ ... ] They make printers out of salt [ wikipedia.org ] now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[...] epsom printers[...]They make printers out of salt [wikipedia.org] now?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317620</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320704</id>
	<title>Staples</title>
	<author>andrewmin</author>
	<datestamp>1259859480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ditto everyone else: buy a laser printer.

But since you didn't, buy it from Staples. They have cheap(er) refills... see <a href="http://www.staples.com/Stylus-Photo-RX595-Epson-All-in-One-Machines/cat\_CL163297" title="staples.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.staples.com/Stylus-Photo-RX595-Epson-All-in-One-Machines/cat\_CL163297</a> [staples.com] Or... check Google Products.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ditto everyone else : buy a laser printer .
But since you did n't , buy it from Staples .
They have cheap ( er ) refills... see http : //www.staples.com/Stylus-Photo-RX595-Epson-All-in-One-Machines/cat \ _CL163297 [ staples.com ] Or... check Google Products .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ditto everyone else: buy a laser printer.
But since you didn't, buy it from Staples.
They have cheap(er) refills... see http://www.staples.com/Stylus-Photo-RX595-Epson-All-in-One-Machines/cat\_CL163297 [staples.com] Or... check Google Products.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316532</id>
	<title>When do printers cost less than ink?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When you don't use them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When you do n't use them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you don't use them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321612</id>
	<title>Re:If I ran my country</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259957880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes in the Nordic countries you can return many types of electronic equipment or appliances as well as equipment/toys with built in batteries to the store where you bought them, though it's still legal to sell cars, consoles and printers at a loss to make up for it in consumables.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes in the Nordic countries you can return many types of electronic equipment or appliances as well as equipment/toys with built in batteries to the store where you bought them , though it 's still legal to sell cars , consoles and printers at a loss to make up for it in consumables .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes in the Nordic countries you can return many types of electronic equipment or appliances as well as equipment/toys with built in batteries to the store where you bought them, though it's still legal to sell cars, consoles and printers at a loss to make up for it in consumables.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316526</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317144</id>
	<title>freecycle</title>
	<author>indy\_Muad'Dib</author>
	<datestamp>1259837880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.freecycle.org/" title="freecycle.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.freecycle.org/</a> [freecycle.org]
<br> <br>
all my old tech gets given away.
<br> <br>
if you want a bit of cash for it try craigslist</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.freecycle.org/ [ freecycle.org ] all my old tech gets given away .
if you want a bit of cash for it try craigslist</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.freecycle.org/ [freecycle.org]
 
all my old tech gets given away.
if you want a bit of cash for it try craigslist</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316878</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259837040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ignoring your actual comment, which was pretty useless -<p><div class="quote"><p>Knowledge = Power
P= W/t
t=Money
Money = Work/Knowledge so the less you know the more you make</p></div><p>I think you need some assistance with your simple algebra.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ignoring your actual comment , which was pretty useless -Knowledge = Power P = W/t t = Money Money = Work/Knowledge so the less you know the more you makeI think you need some assistance with your simple algebra .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ignoring your actual comment, which was pretty useless -Knowledge = Power
P= W/t
t=Money
Money = Work/Knowledge so the less you know the more you makeI think you need some assistance with your simple algebra.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316418</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317752</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259839980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; The new printer you bought came with "demo" ink cartridges that are nearly empty, compared with full ones. You didn't get a bargain.</p><p>This is the anon poster.  Actually, I bought *full* ink cartridges (both black &amp; color) with the new printer for less than ink!</p><p>Ink cart prices were first on my mind with the new one, and I found that they cost half that of the Epson (which is still expensive, but at least more in line with the competition).  So we're talking about a Canon printer for $40 and color + black ink for $42 (actually less, because they somehow goofed and I didn't figure out that they'd forgotten to charge me for the color ink until I got home, saving me $26).</p><p>I just didn't want to put all that crap into the summary because I didn't think anyone cared and because I didn't want to Slashvertise anyone (though I did want to shame Epson; their ink was the MOST expensive I could find with those $65 color ink packs).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; The new printer you bought came with " demo " ink cartridges that are nearly empty , compared with full ones .
You did n't get a bargain.This is the anon poster .
Actually , I bought * full * ink cartridges ( both black &amp; color ) with the new printer for less than ink ! Ink cart prices were first on my mind with the new one , and I found that they cost half that of the Epson ( which is still expensive , but at least more in line with the competition ) .
So we 're talking about a Canon printer for $ 40 and color + black ink for $ 42 ( actually less , because they somehow goofed and I did n't figure out that they 'd forgotten to charge me for the color ink until I got home , saving me $ 26 ) .I just did n't want to put all that crap into the summary because I did n't think anyone cared and because I did n't want to Slashvertise anyone ( though I did want to shame Epson ; their ink was the MOST expensive I could find with those $ 65 color ink packs ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; The new printer you bought came with "demo" ink cartridges that are nearly empty, compared with full ones.
You didn't get a bargain.This is the anon poster.
Actually, I bought *full* ink cartridges (both black &amp; color) with the new printer for less than ink!Ink cart prices were first on my mind with the new one, and I found that they cost half that of the Epson (which is still expensive, but at least more in line with the competition).
So we're talking about a Canon printer for $40 and color + black ink for $42 (actually less, because they somehow goofed and I didn't figure out that they'd forgotten to charge me for the color ink until I got home, saving me $26).I just didn't want to put all that crap into the summary because I didn't think anyone cared and because I didn't want to Slashvertise anyone (though I did want to shame Epson; their ink was the MOST expensive I could find with those $65 color ink packs).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30323094</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259938440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Regarding the Razor and Blades comment.  Not all of us prefer that.  When I found out what my wife was paying for Mach 3 blades each month I nearly fainted (I burn them up fast, combo of thick beard and sensitive skin).  Then I went with a good old-fashioned double-edge safety razor.  About $30 for the razor itself and $25 for a box or 200 high-quality stainless blades == a BUNCH of money saved!  I do a new blade every Monday<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... that's almost 4 years worth blades for $25!!</p><p>Look up Merkur and Derby on Amazon or elsewhere if you want to save on the old "razor and blades" game.  You'll have to re-learn how to shave, only takes a day or two.   Your wallet will thank me.</p><p>Sadly, I don't know the method for cheaping out the same way with printers &amp; ink<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... other than B&amp;W at home and photos at Costco.</p><p>(The irony of using a double-edge safety razor to escape the razor and blades problem doesn't escape me.  I know that's where it was invented in the first place!  But since the Mach 3 it seems Gillette has moved on from the original double-edge razor model.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Regarding the Razor and Blades comment .
Not all of us prefer that .
When I found out what my wife was paying for Mach 3 blades each month I nearly fainted ( I burn them up fast , combo of thick beard and sensitive skin ) .
Then I went with a good old-fashioned double-edge safety razor .
About $ 30 for the razor itself and $ 25 for a box or 200 high-quality stainless blades = = a BUNCH of money saved !
I do a new blade every Monday ... that 's almost 4 years worth blades for $ 25 !
! Look up Merkur and Derby on Amazon or elsewhere if you want to save on the old " razor and blades " game .
You 'll have to re-learn how to shave , only takes a day or two .
Your wallet will thank me.Sadly , I do n't know the method for cheaping out the same way with printers &amp; ink ... other than B&amp;W at home and photos at Costco .
( The irony of using a double-edge safety razor to escape the razor and blades problem does n't escape me .
I know that 's where it was invented in the first place !
But since the Mach 3 it seems Gillette has moved on from the original double-edge razor model .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Regarding the Razor and Blades comment.
Not all of us prefer that.
When I found out what my wife was paying for Mach 3 blades each month I nearly fainted (I burn them up fast, combo of thick beard and sensitive skin).
Then I went with a good old-fashioned double-edge safety razor.
About $30 for the razor itself and $25 for a box or 200 high-quality stainless blades == a BUNCH of money saved!
I do a new blade every Monday ... that's almost 4 years worth blades for $25!
!Look up Merkur and Derby on Amazon or elsewhere if you want to save on the old "razor and blades" game.
You'll have to re-learn how to shave, only takes a day or two.
Your wallet will thank me.Sadly, I don't know the method for cheaping out the same way with printers &amp; ink ... other than B&amp;W at home and photos at Costco.
(The irony of using a double-edge safety razor to escape the razor and blades problem doesn't escape me.
I know that's where it was invented in the first place!
But since the Mach 3 it seems Gillette has moved on from the original double-edge razor model.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319652</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1259850540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, laser is great. I print only occasionally and got fed up with the "oh, you're powering the printer on, we need to waste a lot of ink before you print" routine. I got a really cheap Samsung used, refilled the starter toner cartridge for $10, and have been going fine ever since. I will never, ever use a fucking inkjet again, given that <a href="http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~cook/movabletype/mlm/BloodInk.jpg" title="columbia.edu">ink that costs more than human blood</a> [columbia.edu].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , laser is great .
I print only occasionally and got fed up with the " oh , you 're powering the printer on , we need to waste a lot of ink before you print " routine .
I got a really cheap Samsung used , refilled the starter toner cartridge for $ 10 , and have been going fine ever since .
I will never , ever use a fucking inkjet again , given that ink that costs more than human blood [ columbia.edu ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, laser is great.
I print only occasionally and got fed up with the "oh, you're powering the printer on, we need to waste a lot of ink before you print" routine.
I got a really cheap Samsung used, refilled the starter toner cartridge for $10, and have been going fine ever since.
I will never, ever use a fucking inkjet again, given that ink that costs more than human blood [columbia.edu].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316718</id>
	<title>Pages from new printer versus pages from new ink</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Keep in mind that toner/ink cartridges in new printers aren't always "full" cartridges and hence won't necessarily last as long or do as many pages as a new cartridge.  For example last week I I bought a new toner cartridge for my printer (Samsung ML-1640).  For $10 less I could have just got a new printer with toner cartridge, *but* the toner cartridge contained therein is a 750 page one, whereas the new cartridge is 1500 pages, so on a $/pages ratio the replacement cartridge is still cheaper.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Keep in mind that toner/ink cartridges in new printers are n't always " full " cartridges and hence wo n't necessarily last as long or do as many pages as a new cartridge .
For example last week I I bought a new toner cartridge for my printer ( Samsung ML-1640 ) .
For $ 10 less I could have just got a new printer with toner cartridge , * but * the toner cartridge contained therein is a 750 page one , whereas the new cartridge is 1500 pages , so on a $ /pages ratio the replacement cartridge is still cheaper .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Keep in mind that toner/ink cartridges in new printers aren't always "full" cartridges and hence won't necessarily last as long or do as many pages as a new cartridge.
For example last week I I bought a new toner cartridge for my printer (Samsung ML-1640).
For $10 less I could have just got a new printer with toner cartridge, *but* the toner cartridge contained therein is a 750 page one, whereas the new cartridge is 1500 pages, so on a $/pages ratio the replacement cartridge is still cheaper.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316518</id>
	<title>Charity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Goodwill or an educational institution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Goodwill or an educational institution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Goodwill or an educational institution.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318966</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259846040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Laser printers are going down the same road as inkjet printers: Device prices are dwindling and consumable prices skyrocket. A color laser printer easily costs two to three times the upfront price when the first (low quantity) cartridges need to be replaced with three new cartridges (cyan, magenta, yellow, each costing more than the black cartridge, which is typically a little more than half the price of the printer.)</p><p>The good thing is that refilling laser cartridges is even easier than refilling inkjet cartridges. It is recommended to do it outside though, because if you do spill toner, the dust is quite messy and not healthy. Cuts the price of consumables by 90 percent...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Laser printers are going down the same road as inkjet printers : Device prices are dwindling and consumable prices skyrocket .
A color laser printer easily costs two to three times the upfront price when the first ( low quantity ) cartridges need to be replaced with three new cartridges ( cyan , magenta , yellow , each costing more than the black cartridge , which is typically a little more than half the price of the printer .
) The good thing is that refilling laser cartridges is even easier than refilling inkjet cartridges .
It is recommended to do it outside though , because if you do spill toner , the dust is quite messy and not healthy .
Cuts the price of consumables by 90 percent.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Laser printers are going down the same road as inkjet printers: Device prices are dwindling and consumable prices skyrocket.
A color laser printer easily costs two to three times the upfront price when the first (low quantity) cartridges need to be replaced with three new cartridges (cyan, magenta, yellow, each costing more than the black cartridge, which is typically a little more than half the price of the printer.
)The good thing is that refilling laser cartridges is even easier than refilling inkjet cartridges.
It is recommended to do it outside though, because if you do spill toner, the dust is quite messy and not healthy.
Cuts the price of consumables by 90 percent...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318934</id>
	<title>When I went to buy in at Staples...</title>
	<author>Zadaz</author>
	<datestamp>1259845800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I went to Staples to buy ink a couple weeks ago (yeah, I know, it was something of a printing emergency) the guy behind the counter was helpful in finding the ink I needed.  And when he checked the price he said "You're probably better off buying a new printer."  Refreshing honesty.</p><p>I did end up buying a new printer which fortunately was easy and trouble free to set up. (remember the rpinting emergency).</p><p>What to do with the old one?  I've scavenged a lot of the parts out of it.  Between it and another printer that I found on the sidewalk I have most of the parts I need to build a decent quality CNC machine.  If I end up cycling through any more printers I'll start collecting parts for a 3D printer. (like <a href="http://reprap.org/bin/view/Main/WebHome" title="reprap.org">RapRep</a> [reprap.org] or <a href="http://www.makerbot.com/" title="makerbot.com">MakerBot</a> [makerbot.com].)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I went to Staples to buy ink a couple weeks ago ( yeah , I know , it was something of a printing emergency ) the guy behind the counter was helpful in finding the ink I needed .
And when he checked the price he said " You 're probably better off buying a new printer .
" Refreshing honesty.I did end up buying a new printer which fortunately was easy and trouble free to set up .
( remember the rpinting emergency ) .What to do with the old one ?
I 've scavenged a lot of the parts out of it .
Between it and another printer that I found on the sidewalk I have most of the parts I need to build a decent quality CNC machine .
If I end up cycling through any more printers I 'll start collecting parts for a 3D printer .
( like RapRep [ reprap.org ] or MakerBot [ makerbot.com ] .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I went to Staples to buy ink a couple weeks ago (yeah, I know, it was something of a printing emergency) the guy behind the counter was helpful in finding the ink I needed.
And when he checked the price he said "You're probably better off buying a new printer.
"  Refreshing honesty.I did end up buying a new printer which fortunately was easy and trouble free to set up.
(remember the rpinting emergency).What to do with the old one?
I've scavenged a lot of the parts out of it.
Between it and another printer that I found on the sidewalk I have most of the parts I need to build a decent quality CNC machine.
If I end up cycling through any more printers I'll start collecting parts for a 3D printer.
(like RapRep [reprap.org] or MakerBot [makerbot.com].
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320014</id>
	<title>Stepper Motors!!!</title>
	<author>drmitch</author>
	<datestamp>1259853300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Gut the thing for the stepper motors. I will GLADLY pay for the shipping for you to send them to me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Gut the thing for the stepper motors .
I will GLADLY pay for the shipping for you to send them to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gut the thing for the stepper motors.
I will GLADLY pay for the shipping for you to send them to me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318836</id>
	<title>Buy bulk ink with printer</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1259845320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I buy a printer, I find a model that lets you refill cartidges. I have found a local supplier that supplies 125ml bottles of ink for a reasonable price (3rd party but a pretty close match and doesn't seem to clog up my printers). So I buy a printer and a bottle of each colour of ink, syringes and anything else I need to refill. Been doing this for a few years now. I have only had 2 pritners die in that time out of 5 and for both of them my issue was that I had to throw away ink at the end.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I buy a printer , I find a model that lets you refill cartidges .
I have found a local supplier that supplies 125ml bottles of ink for a reasonable price ( 3rd party but a pretty close match and does n't seem to clog up my printers ) .
So I buy a printer and a bottle of each colour of ink , syringes and anything else I need to refill .
Been doing this for a few years now .
I have only had 2 pritners die in that time out of 5 and for both of them my issue was that I had to throw away ink at the end .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I buy a printer, I find a model that lets you refill cartidges.
I have found a local supplier that supplies 125ml bottles of ink for a reasonable price (3rd party but a pretty close match and doesn't seem to clog up my printers).
So I buy a printer and a bottle of each colour of ink, syringes and anything else I need to refill.
Been doing this for a few years now.
I have only had 2 pritners die in that time out of 5 and for both of them my issue was that I had to throw away ink at the end.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317178</id>
	<title>Re: cheep printers expensive ink. Trade it in!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259838000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you want to g to the bother, Staples seems to always be encouraging recycling... check with them see if they'll take it. A couple times last year they even gave you $45.00 to trade in an old printer (of any type) toward the purchase of a new one. You might also google computer recycling in  your town... here, there seem to be  about half a dozen companies that do it. But if I had a choice I like the Idea of seeing if Staples will come back with that trade in option again. Last year combined with the back to school sales it got me both a nice brother laser printer, and a wireless hp office jet for a combined price of about $90.00. The laser is a god send for everyday printing, and for those times you really do need color, or are on your lap top in the back yard, the hp comes in handy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want to g to the bother , Staples seems to always be encouraging recycling... check with them see if they 'll take it .
A couple times last year they even gave you $ 45.00 to trade in an old printer ( of any type ) toward the purchase of a new one .
You might also google computer recycling in your town... here , there seem to be about half a dozen companies that do it .
But if I had a choice I like the Idea of seeing if Staples will come back with that trade in option again .
Last year combined with the back to school sales it got me both a nice brother laser printer , and a wireless hp office jet for a combined price of about $ 90.00 .
The laser is a god send for everyday printing , and for those times you really do need color , or are on your lap top in the back yard , the hp comes in handy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want to g to the bother, Staples seems to always be encouraging recycling... check with them see if they'll take it.
A couple times last year they even gave you $45.00 to trade in an old printer (of any type) toward the purchase of a new one.
You might also google computer recycling in  your town... here, there seem to be  about half a dozen companies that do it.
But if I had a choice I like the Idea of seeing if Staples will come back with that trade in option again.
Last year combined with the back to school sales it got me both a nice brother laser printer, and a wireless hp office jet for a combined price of about $90.00.
The laser is a god send for everyday printing, and for those times you really do need color, or are on your lap top in the back yard, the hp comes in handy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317738</id>
	<title>This marketing model is very old</title>
	<author>BlindRobin</author>
	<datestamp>1259839980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The best early example is the safety razor. Where the manufacturer packaged a "free" razor with a pack of over priced blades that only fit the "free" razor. Subsequently one would have to buy more blades in order to use the razor. The difference with the printer/ink cartridge version is the extreme price differential which is based on an assumed comparative affluence* of the target consumer and very probable collusion among the various manufacturers in an effort to flog a rather broad and hostage market(the razor blade manufacturers were guilty of the same). In the current political/business environment it is not likely that anything will be done about such practices.</p><p>*affluence in this case not necessarily real but the consumers consumptive potential defined by their perception of normative behavior.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The best early example is the safety razor .
Where the manufacturer packaged a " free " razor with a pack of over priced blades that only fit the " free " razor .
Subsequently one would have to buy more blades in order to use the razor .
The difference with the printer/ink cartridge version is the extreme price differential which is based on an assumed comparative affluence * of the target consumer and very probable collusion among the various manufacturers in an effort to flog a rather broad and hostage market ( the razor blade manufacturers were guilty of the same ) .
In the current political/business environment it is not likely that anything will be done about such practices .
* affluence in this case not necessarily real but the consumers consumptive potential defined by their perception of normative behavior .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The best early example is the safety razor.
Where the manufacturer packaged a "free" razor with a pack of over priced blades that only fit the "free" razor.
Subsequently one would have to buy more blades in order to use the razor.
The difference with the printer/ink cartridge version is the extreme price differential which is based on an assumed comparative affluence* of the target consumer and very probable collusion among the various manufacturers in an effort to flog a rather broad and hostage market(the razor blade manufacturers were guilty of the same).
In the current political/business environment it is not likely that anything will be done about such practices.
*affluence in this case not necessarily real but the consumers consumptive potential defined by their perception of normative behavior.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316702</id>
	<title>did we miss the part where he said...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>he also got spare ink in the deal? He's not asking for purchasing advice, he's asking what to do with an old printer that still works.</p><p>That said, I don't know.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>he also got spare ink in the deal ?
He 's not asking for purchasing advice , he 's asking what to do with an old printer that still works.That said , I do n't know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>he also got spare ink in the deal?
He's not asking for purchasing advice, he's asking what to do with an old printer that still works.That said, I don't know.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318728</id>
	<title>Buy printers that are easy to refill</title>
	<author>jridley</author>
	<datestamp>1259844600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When researching what new printer to buy, I make sure that I can refill them easily and cheaply.</p><p>When I was doing inkjet, I had a Canon i970, where each color is a separate tank, and refilling involved popping the top open, squirting ink in with a syringe and resealing it, about 2 minutes and 50 cents instead of $8 for a new tank.</p><p>I gave up on inkjet though; the only reason to go inkjet is to print color photos, and you can get photos printed at the drug store or walmart or something by uploading them online, and they'll have them printed by the time you get there (I pick mine up on the way to work, so no extra travel either) and it's cheaper than what the ink and paper would cost me, and I don't have to maintain anything.</p><p>I currently have a Brother HL-4040CN networked laser printer, which I bought on sale for $200.  Refills for all 4 colors are $99 (versus new carts for about $500 for the set of 4).  Works great, can sit there drawing 1 watt for weeks and prints from anyone on the network, and was recognized and set up perfectly by Ubuntu 9.10, Windows XP, Vista and 7.  Refilling it involves opening a port, squirting in toner, sealing the port, turning a gear to reset the page count on the cart, and putting it back in.</p><p>I bought a 2nd printer for $200; because I like the printer and figured it can't hurt to have a spare, and besides, toner carts do eventually die, and $50 each was a good price for replacement toner carts even if I just threw the printer away.</p><p>I also only print maybe 5 to 10 pages a day, I've had this printer almost a year and still am on the original carts, I have no idea how long they'll last.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When researching what new printer to buy , I make sure that I can refill them easily and cheaply.When I was doing inkjet , I had a Canon i970 , where each color is a separate tank , and refilling involved popping the top open , squirting ink in with a syringe and resealing it , about 2 minutes and 50 cents instead of $ 8 for a new tank.I gave up on inkjet though ; the only reason to go inkjet is to print color photos , and you can get photos printed at the drug store or walmart or something by uploading them online , and they 'll have them printed by the time you get there ( I pick mine up on the way to work , so no extra travel either ) and it 's cheaper than what the ink and paper would cost me , and I do n't have to maintain anything.I currently have a Brother HL-4040CN networked laser printer , which I bought on sale for $ 200 .
Refills for all 4 colors are $ 99 ( versus new carts for about $ 500 for the set of 4 ) .
Works great , can sit there drawing 1 watt for weeks and prints from anyone on the network , and was recognized and set up perfectly by Ubuntu 9.10 , Windows XP , Vista and 7 .
Refilling it involves opening a port , squirting in toner , sealing the port , turning a gear to reset the page count on the cart , and putting it back in.I bought a 2nd printer for $ 200 ; because I like the printer and figured it ca n't hurt to have a spare , and besides , toner carts do eventually die , and $ 50 each was a good price for replacement toner carts even if I just threw the printer away.I also only print maybe 5 to 10 pages a day , I 've had this printer almost a year and still am on the original carts , I have no idea how long they 'll last .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When researching what new printer to buy, I make sure that I can refill them easily and cheaply.When I was doing inkjet, I had a Canon i970, where each color is a separate tank, and refilling involved popping the top open, squirting ink in with a syringe and resealing it, about 2 minutes and 50 cents instead of $8 for a new tank.I gave up on inkjet though; the only reason to go inkjet is to print color photos, and you can get photos printed at the drug store or walmart or something by uploading them online, and they'll have them printed by the time you get there (I pick mine up on the way to work, so no extra travel either) and it's cheaper than what the ink and paper would cost me, and I don't have to maintain anything.I currently have a Brother HL-4040CN networked laser printer, which I bought on sale for $200.
Refills for all 4 colors are $99 (versus new carts for about $500 for the set of 4).
Works great, can sit there drawing 1 watt for weeks and prints from anyone on the network, and was recognized and set up perfectly by Ubuntu 9.10, Windows XP, Vista and 7.
Refilling it involves opening a port, squirting in toner, sealing the port, turning a gear to reset the page count on the cart, and putting it back in.I bought a 2nd printer for $200; because I like the printer and figured it can't hurt to have a spare, and besides, toner carts do eventually die, and $50 each was a good price for replacement toner carts even if I just threw the printer away.I also only print maybe 5 to 10 pages a day, I've had this printer almost a year and still am on the original carts, I have no idea how long they'll last.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318474</id>
	<title>You could always...</title>
	<author>Turzyx</author>
	<datestamp>1259843280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...use it as a UV chamber. I notice the RX 595 is an all-in-one type with flatbed scanner.<br> <br>

You could stick some UV lamps inside and use it to activate photo-resistive PCB.You end up with a much nicer finish than iron-on acetate.<br> <br>

Also, whatever you do, don't be tempted to buy ink refill kits. I know someone who works in Cartridge World; they stock over 300 different types of ink to take into account things like: temperature (cold or vapour), viscousity, pigment concentration, drying time, among others.<br> <br>

If you own an Epson, which uses individual ink 'pots' as apposed to print-head cartridges, if the ink you use is incompatible you could end up nackering the entire print head - and then you may aswell by another printer for sure.<br> <br>

Most of the big printer names have started quoting the ink volumes in 'pages' rather than actual volume of ink, since people realised they were getting cartridges that were only 1/4 full.<br> <br>

I recently got my number 11 HP cartridge, normally 5ml of black from HP, refilled with 20ml of ink, for LESS.<br> <br>

There are occassionally issues of course, cyan in the magenta compartment etc (:P), but proper refill centres have guarantess against that sort of thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...use it as a UV chamber .
I notice the RX 595 is an all-in-one type with flatbed scanner .
You could stick some UV lamps inside and use it to activate photo-resistive PCB.You end up with a much nicer finish than iron-on acetate .
Also , whatever you do , do n't be tempted to buy ink refill kits .
I know someone who works in Cartridge World ; they stock over 300 different types of ink to take into account things like : temperature ( cold or vapour ) , viscousity , pigment concentration , drying time , among others .
If you own an Epson , which uses individual ink 'pots ' as apposed to print-head cartridges , if the ink you use is incompatible you could end up nackering the entire print head - and then you may aswell by another printer for sure .
Most of the big printer names have started quoting the ink volumes in 'pages ' rather than actual volume of ink , since people realised they were getting cartridges that were only 1/4 full .
I recently got my number 11 HP cartridge , normally 5ml of black from HP , refilled with 20ml of ink , for LESS .
There are occassionally issues of course , cyan in the magenta compartment etc ( : P ) , but proper refill centres have guarantess against that sort of thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...use it as a UV chamber.
I notice the RX 595 is an all-in-one type with flatbed scanner.
You could stick some UV lamps inside and use it to activate photo-resistive PCB.You end up with a much nicer finish than iron-on acetate.
Also, whatever you do, don't be tempted to buy ink refill kits.
I know someone who works in Cartridge World; they stock over 300 different types of ink to take into account things like: temperature (cold or vapour), viscousity, pigment concentration, drying time, among others.
If you own an Epson, which uses individual ink 'pots' as apposed to print-head cartridges, if the ink you use is incompatible you could end up nackering the entire print head - and then you may aswell by another printer for sure.
Most of the big printer names have started quoting the ink volumes in 'pages' rather than actual volume of ink, since people realised they were getting cartridges that were only 1/4 full.
I recently got my number 11 HP cartridge, normally 5ml of black from HP, refilled with 20ml of ink, for LESS.
There are occassionally issues of course, cyan in the magenta compartment etc (:P), but proper refill centres have guarantess against that sort of thing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317030</id>
	<title>Get a better printer.</title>
	<author>CFD339</author>
	<datestamp>1259837520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Give the old one to the Salvation Army, and go get one after doing some research into longevity and ink replacement costs.</p><p>For what it's worth, I've got to the HP Photosmart line and been very happy with reliability, ink costs, and overall quality (except the driver, which blows).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Give the old one to the Salvation Army , and go get one after doing some research into longevity and ink replacement costs.For what it 's worth , I 've got to the HP Photosmart line and been very happy with reliability , ink costs , and overall quality ( except the driver , which blows ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Give the old one to the Salvation Army, and go get one after doing some research into longevity and ink replacement costs.For what it's worth, I've got to the HP Photosmart line and been very happy with reliability, ink costs, and overall quality (except the driver, which blows).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322428</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259929740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What you do is buy a CISS (Continuous Ink Supply System) I have been using them for years. They only clog up when you go on holiday for a couple of months in the hot weather. I pay around $50 for a system with 6 colours and refills. Made in China, of course! I make hundreds of full-colour prints each year as teaching aids. I never buy "genuine replacement cartridges".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What you do is buy a CISS ( Continuous Ink Supply System ) I have been using them for years .
They only clog up when you go on holiday for a couple of months in the hot weather .
I pay around $ 50 for a system with 6 colours and refills .
Made in China , of course !
I make hundreds of full-colour prints each year as teaching aids .
I never buy " genuine replacement cartridges " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What you do is buy a CISS (Continuous Ink Supply System) I have been using them for years.
They only clog up when you go on holiday for a couple of months in the hot weather.
I pay around $50 for a system with 6 colours and refills.
Made in China, of course!
I make hundreds of full-colour prints each year as teaching aids.
I never buy "genuine replacement cartridges".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320188</id>
	<title>Re:  Good Inkjet printers are the best for photos</title>
	<author>doug20r</author>
	<datestamp>1259854860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Inkjets have higher resolution than dyesub printers.  I explored dye sub printers but returned to Epson inkjet printers for high quality prints.  Some people will argue that the wide range of ink levels that a dye sub can place on the paper will make up for the low resolution (typically 300dpi), however the dye sub ink also spreads and the heating element has a slow response so you don't even get 300dpi. A Epson Inkjet can place dots a 5760dpi so it can reproduce high resolution detail; the ink dots need to be dithered to produce shades, but the dithered pattern can still be placed at 5760 dpi compared to a dye sub can only place a pattern at 300 dpi. Another way to look at it is that a dye sub can place a fuzzy pattern on a 300 dpi grid, but an Epson Inkjet can place a fuzzy pattern at 5760 dpi and this does make a big difference.

Inkjet printers also have a wider range of inks so product a much better color gamut.  For example: if you combine the CMY on dye sub you get a dark brown.  An Inkjey printer typically has a black ink for better blacks.

Inkjet printers are a good option, and dye sub and laser printer do not appears to be replacing their quality any time soon.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Inkjets have higher resolution than dyesub printers .
I explored dye sub printers but returned to Epson inkjet printers for high quality prints .
Some people will argue that the wide range of ink levels that a dye sub can place on the paper will make up for the low resolution ( typically 300dpi ) , however the dye sub ink also spreads and the heating element has a slow response so you do n't even get 300dpi .
A Epson Inkjet can place dots a 5760dpi so it can reproduce high resolution detail ; the ink dots need to be dithered to produce shades , but the dithered pattern can still be placed at 5760 dpi compared to a dye sub can only place a pattern at 300 dpi .
Another way to look at it is that a dye sub can place a fuzzy pattern on a 300 dpi grid , but an Epson Inkjet can place a fuzzy pattern at 5760 dpi and this does make a big difference .
Inkjet printers also have a wider range of inks so product a much better color gamut .
For example : if you combine the CMY on dye sub you get a dark brown .
An Inkjey printer typically has a black ink for better blacks .
Inkjet printers are a good option , and dye sub and laser printer do not appears to be replacing their quality any time soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Inkjets have higher resolution than dyesub printers.
I explored dye sub printers but returned to Epson inkjet printers for high quality prints.
Some people will argue that the wide range of ink levels that a dye sub can place on the paper will make up for the low resolution (typically 300dpi), however the dye sub ink also spreads and the heating element has a slow response so you don't even get 300dpi.
A Epson Inkjet can place dots a 5760dpi so it can reproduce high resolution detail; the ink dots need to be dithered to produce shades, but the dithered pattern can still be placed at 5760 dpi compared to a dye sub can only place a pattern at 300 dpi.
Another way to look at it is that a dye sub can place a fuzzy pattern on a 300 dpi grid, but an Epson Inkjet can place a fuzzy pattern at 5760 dpi and this does make a big difference.
Inkjet printers also have a wider range of inks so product a much better color gamut.
For example: if you combine the CMY on dye sub you get a dark brown.
An Inkjey printer typically has a black ink for better blacks.
Inkjet printers are a good option, and dye sub and laser printer do not appears to be replacing their quality any time soon.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318982</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>cmoss</author>
	<datestamp>1259846100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In a free market economy(low barriers to entry) prices should trend towards the marginal cost to produce.</p><p>If prices are set too high more people will enter the market and price products below existing levels.</p><p>Willingness to pay plays more of a role in early markets and monopoly or price fixing situations.</p><p>The fact that ink prices have stayed so high for more than a decade indicates the free market/competition is not fully functional for inkjet printers.</p><p>The patents, trade secrets and chip protected cartridges that keep third party cartridges off the market provide barriers to entry preventing open competition.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In a free market economy ( low barriers to entry ) prices should trend towards the marginal cost to produce.If prices are set too high more people will enter the market and price products below existing levels.Willingness to pay plays more of a role in early markets and monopoly or price fixing situations.The fact that ink prices have stayed so high for more than a decade indicates the free market/competition is not fully functional for inkjet printers.The patents , trade secrets and chip protected cartridges that keep third party cartridges off the market provide barriers to entry preventing open competition .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In a free market economy(low barriers to entry) prices should trend towards the marginal cost to produce.If prices are set too high more people will enter the market and price products below existing levels.Willingness to pay plays more of a role in early markets and monopoly or price fixing situations.The fact that ink prices have stayed so high for more than a decade indicates the free market/competition is not fully functional for inkjet printers.The patents, trade secrets and chip protected cartridges that keep third party cartridges off the market provide barriers to entry preventing open competition.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317368</id>
	<title>Re:Simple!</title>
	<author>nloop</author>
	<datestamp>1259838660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Reminds me of the old trick from when DVD writers were new and expensive.  Buy a DVD writer, switch the faceplate on it with one on an old cd drive.  Return the cd drive with a make over and keep the incognito DVD writer.  Just don't pay with a credit card.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds me of the old trick from when DVD writers were new and expensive .
Buy a DVD writer , switch the faceplate on it with one on an old cd drive .
Return the cd drive with a make over and keep the incognito DVD writer .
Just do n't pay with a credit card .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds me of the old trick from when DVD writers were new and expensive.
Buy a DVD writer, switch the faceplate on it with one on an old cd drive.
Return the cd drive with a make over and keep the incognito DVD writer.
Just don't pay with a credit card.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318852</id>
	<title>Old printers have more mechanicals than new ones</title>
	<author>Traf-O-Data-Hater</author>
	<datestamp>1259845320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would add to the parent's statement that bigger and more sophisticated printers yield more mechanical goodies that older printers, scanners and especially old office photocopiers have more mechanical 'guts' in them. As newer electronics became smarter the manufacturers could dispense with some of the moving parts (and why wouldn't they). A nice secondary use for the glass from an old photocopier is that being optically flat, they make a perfect surface plate for model engineering use, thus saving over $100 on a machined steel or granite one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would add to the parent 's statement that bigger and more sophisticated printers yield more mechanical goodies that older printers , scanners and especially old office photocopiers have more mechanical 'guts ' in them .
As newer electronics became smarter the manufacturers could dispense with some of the moving parts ( and why would n't they ) .
A nice secondary use for the glass from an old photocopier is that being optically flat , they make a perfect surface plate for model engineering use , thus saving over $ 100 on a machined steel or granite one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would add to the parent's statement that bigger and more sophisticated printers yield more mechanical goodies that older printers, scanners and especially old office photocopiers have more mechanical 'guts' in them.
As newer electronics became smarter the manufacturers could dispense with some of the moving parts (and why wouldn't they).
A nice secondary use for the glass from an old photocopier is that being optically flat, they make a perfect surface plate for model engineering use, thus saving over $100 on a machined steel or granite one.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317288</id>
	<title>3D printer</title>
	<author>dissy</author>
	<datestamp>1259838360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My suggestion would be convert it into a 3D printer (Known as a fabrication machine)</p><p>Granted, I don't know your skill set so this might not be a valid option, but you have to admit the results are nice!</p><p>Video of a 3d printer made from an old ink jet (Boring to watch straight through, best to watch the first few moments and jump ahead to the end imho):<br>
&nbsp; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nbtZOolSIY" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nbtZOolSIY</a> [youtube.com]</p><p>Here is a better video showing the output from a production 3d printer, to give you an idea of what is possible:<br>
&nbsp; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdzooQQDWGg" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdzooQQDWGg</a> [youtube.com]</p><p>Finally, some more basic info:</p><p><a href="http://hackaday.com/2009/04/19/3d-printing-at-home/" title="hackaday.com">http://hackaday.com/2009/04/19/3d-printing-at-home/</a> [hackaday.com]<br><a href="http://homemade3dprinter.blogspot.com/" title="blogspot.com">http://homemade3dprinter.blogspot.com/</a> [blogspot.com]</p><p>Google will have more detailed info if you are interested</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My suggestion would be convert it into a 3D printer ( Known as a fabrication machine ) Granted , I do n't know your skill set so this might not be a valid option , but you have to admit the results are nice ! Video of a 3d printer made from an old ink jet ( Boring to watch straight through , best to watch the first few moments and jump ahead to the end imho ) :   http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = 2nbtZOolSIY [ youtube.com ] Here is a better video showing the output from a production 3d printer , to give you an idea of what is possible :   http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = HdzooQQDWGg [ youtube.com ] Finally , some more basic info : http : //hackaday.com/2009/04/19/3d-printing-at-home/ [ hackaday.com ] http : //homemade3dprinter.blogspot.com/ [ blogspot.com ] Google will have more detailed info if you are interested</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My suggestion would be convert it into a 3D printer (Known as a fabrication machine)Granted, I don't know your skill set so this might not be a valid option, but you have to admit the results are nice!Video of a 3d printer made from an old ink jet (Boring to watch straight through, best to watch the first few moments and jump ahead to the end imho):
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nbtZOolSIY [youtube.com]Here is a better video showing the output from a production 3d printer, to give you an idea of what is possible:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdzooQQDWGg [youtube.com]Finally, some more basic info:http://hackaday.com/2009/04/19/3d-printing-at-home/ [hackaday.com]http://homemade3dprinter.blogspot.com/ [blogspot.com]Google will have more detailed info if you are interested</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317624</id>
	<title>Re:Simple!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259839560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi, I work for B(mumble) Buy.  We'd like to speak with you at your earliest convenience RE: a job offer.</p><p>Thank you very much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi , I work for B ( mumble ) Buy .
We 'd like to speak with you at your earliest convenience RE : a job offer.Thank you very much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi, I work for B(mumble) Buy.
We'd like to speak with you at your earliest convenience RE: a job offer.Thank you very much.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316472</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318458</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>fotbr</author>
	<datestamp>1259843220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Although if you're a very low volume user, laser printers don't have the same problem with ink drying out that inkjets do.</p><p>No, I'm not talking about the driver saying that the cartridge is "expired" -- I bought a laser printer after the ink from my last HP inkjet dried up.  I'm still on the "starter" toner cartridge 4 years later, and it works just as well as the day I got it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Although if you 're a very low volume user , laser printers do n't have the same problem with ink drying out that inkjets do.No , I 'm not talking about the driver saying that the cartridge is " expired " -- I bought a laser printer after the ink from my last HP inkjet dried up .
I 'm still on the " starter " toner cartridge 4 years later , and it works just as well as the day I got it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although if you're a very low volume user, laser printers don't have the same problem with ink drying out that inkjets do.No, I'm not talking about the driver saying that the cartridge is "expired" -- I bought a laser printer after the ink from my last HP inkjet dried up.
I'm still on the "starter" toner cartridge 4 years later, and it works just as well as the day I got it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317370</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30323734</id>
	<title>INKJET printers are great!</title>
	<author>McBat</author>
	<datestamp>1259942340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They can also be very economical to run.  You just have to refill them yourself. I buy my ink from inksupply.com (there are probably a dozen places on the internet to buy ink) and it costs me about $1.50 to refill a cartridge. I have had cartridges last for years. The trick is to refill them before they go completely dry.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They can also be very economical to run .
You just have to refill them yourself .
I buy my ink from inksupply.com ( there are probably a dozen places on the internet to buy ink ) and it costs me about $ 1.50 to refill a cartridge .
I have had cartridges last for years .
The trick is to refill them before they go completely dry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They can also be very economical to run.
You just have to refill them yourself.
I buy my ink from inksupply.com (there are probably a dozen places on the internet to buy ink) and it costs me about $1.50 to refill a cartridge.
I have had cartridges last for years.
The trick is to refill them before they go completely dry.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318030</id>
	<title>Re:Convert it to continuous feed inktanks</title>
	<author>DavidD\_CA</author>
	<datestamp>1259841240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fine, but then what do you do starting January 2013?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fine , but then what do you do starting January 2013 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fine, but then what do you do starting January 2013?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316522</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317326</id>
	<title>Re:Prevent.</title>
	<author>Dexx</author>
	<datestamp>1259838540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Scrapheap Robot Challenge!  Two teams build working robots out of scrapped office equipment in a limited amount of time, then compete to perform a set challenge.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Scrapheap Robot Challenge !
Two teams build working robots out of scrapped office equipment in a limited amount of time , then compete to perform a set challenge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Scrapheap Robot Challenge!
Two teams build working robots out of scrapped office equipment in a limited amount of time, then compete to perform a set challenge.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316508</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316540</id>
	<title>Re:KaBOOM!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I thought to KaBoom something meant to build a park for it very quickly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought to KaBoom something meant to build a park for it very quickly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought to KaBoom something meant to build a park for it very quickly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317468</id>
	<title>But...</title>
	<author>msauve</author>
	<datestamp>1259838960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>will it blend?</htmltext>
<tokenext>will it blend ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>will it blend?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317656</id>
	<title>Nothing wrong with a good old Laserjet 4</title>
	<author>Nimey</author>
	<datestamp>1259839620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>aside from being huge, and only black-and-white.  But!  Replacement parts are dead easy to find, they're built like a tank, and toner is cheap and plentiful.</p><p>If you don't need color, consider one of these.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>aside from being huge , and only black-and-white .
But ! Replacement parts are dead easy to find , they 're built like a tank , and toner is cheap and plentiful.If you do n't need color , consider one of these .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>aside from being huge, and only black-and-white.
But!  Replacement parts are dead easy to find, they're built like a tank, and toner is cheap and plentiful.If you don't need color, consider one of these.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318138</id>
	<title>I bought spare ink with the printer.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259841780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Make sure the new printer comes with FULL carts, not the half-or-less carts they often box with the printer.</p><p>Submitter here.</p><p>I got new, full carts (Cannon 210XL &amp; 211XL) to go with the new printer and still came out ahead.  The new printer itself was on sale for $40.  Color ink was $26 and black was $16, if memory serves. And that's not counting the half-full demo ink that, like you said, came with the printer.  I just didn't want to slashvertise Canon.  The ink prices are merely average, rather than highway robbery.</p><p>I'm more concerned about pointing out just how bad a ripoff Epson is and figuring out what to do with this piece of junk.  Oh, and for those who say "use it as a scanner", you might be interested to know that the <b>Epson printer refuses to do *anything* when it's out of ink</b>.  All the menus on the device get locked, even if you turn it off and on again.  I don't think that's accidental...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Make sure the new printer comes with FULL carts , not the half-or-less carts they often box with the printer.Submitter here.I got new , full carts ( Cannon 210XL &amp; 211XL ) to go with the new printer and still came out ahead .
The new printer itself was on sale for $ 40 .
Color ink was $ 26 and black was $ 16 , if memory serves .
And that 's not counting the half-full demo ink that , like you said , came with the printer .
I just did n't want to slashvertise Canon .
The ink prices are merely average , rather than highway robbery.I 'm more concerned about pointing out just how bad a ripoff Epson is and figuring out what to do with this piece of junk .
Oh , and for those who say " use it as a scanner " , you might be interested to know that the Epson printer refuses to do * anything * when it 's out of ink .
All the menus on the device get locked , even if you turn it off and on again .
I do n't think that 's accidental.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Make sure the new printer comes with FULL carts, not the half-or-less carts they often box with the printer.Submitter here.I got new, full carts (Cannon 210XL &amp; 211XL) to go with the new printer and still came out ahead.
The new printer itself was on sale for $40.
Color ink was $26 and black was $16, if memory serves.
And that's not counting the half-full demo ink that, like you said, came with the printer.
I just didn't want to slashvertise Canon.
The ink prices are merely average, rather than highway robbery.I'm more concerned about pointing out just how bad a ripoff Epson is and figuring out what to do with this piece of junk.
Oh, and for those who say "use it as a scanner", you might be interested to know that the Epson printer refuses to do *anything* when it's out of ink.
All the menus on the device get locked, even if you turn it off and on again.
I don't think that's accidental...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316416</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317254</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>audunr</author>
	<datestamp>1259838240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.</p></div><p>That's simply not true.</p><p>The cyan cartridge is filled with pigments gathered from the beak of the endangered Taiwula bird, only found in altitudes of around 7.000 meters in the Nepalese mountains.</p><p>And that "photo grey" cartridge is made with moon dust. Not <em>that</em> moon, but one of Pluto's.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.That 's simply not true.The cyan cartridge is filled with pigments gathered from the beak of the endangered Taiwula bird , only found in altitudes of around 7.000 meters in the Nepalese mountains.And that " photo grey " cartridge is made with moon dust .
Not that moon , but one of Pluto 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's no way that a pigment can cost thousands of dollars per liter.That's simply not true.The cyan cartridge is filled with pigments gathered from the beak of the endangered Taiwula bird, only found in altitudes of around 7.000 meters in the Nepalese mountains.And that "photo grey" cartridge is made with moon dust.
Not that moon, but one of Pluto's.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30325954</id>
	<title>Wait for your company</title>
	<author>kaatochacha</author>
	<datestamp>1259952060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wait until your company disposes of their old workhorse laser printers to replace them with fancy color laser printers.
Grab the indestructible ones, refurb them yourself for fifty bucks, then print forever on one toner cartridge.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait until your company disposes of their old workhorse laser printers to replace them with fancy color laser printers .
Grab the indestructible ones , refurb them yourself for fifty bucks , then print forever on one toner cartridge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait until your company disposes of their old workhorse laser printers to replace them with fancy color laser printers.
Grab the indestructible ones, refurb them yourself for fifty bucks, then print forever on one toner cartridge.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30323750</id>
	<title>Help the loss leader printer makers feel loss</title>
	<author>EriktheGreen</author>
	<datestamp>1259942400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have run into the same problem with printers... by the time I print enough to use up the first ink cartridge, there's a better new printer with ink for less money than the new cartridges.
<p>
No problem... I just buy the new printer.  It's a loss leader, aka the company selling it takes a loss it plans to make back through ink sales, and I don't buy ink.  So they subsidize my new printer.
</p><p>
For the old printer, I recycle it... either through an electronics recycling facility, or through my own hobbies.  Printers usually have one or more stepper motors, timing pulleys, belts, useful metal shafts... great for amateur robotics folks.  The electronics can be used for BEAM robots.
</p><p>
Long term I'm planning on dumping the printer altogether... once e-ink books get to the point where they're color and cheap, I won't need paper hardcopy, I'll just transfer over the docs to my e-book.
</p><p>
Erik</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have run into the same problem with printers... by the time I print enough to use up the first ink cartridge , there 's a better new printer with ink for less money than the new cartridges .
No problem... I just buy the new printer .
It 's a loss leader , aka the company selling it takes a loss it plans to make back through ink sales , and I do n't buy ink .
So they subsidize my new printer .
For the old printer , I recycle it... either through an electronics recycling facility , or through my own hobbies .
Printers usually have one or more stepper motors , timing pulleys , belts , useful metal shafts... great for amateur robotics folks .
The electronics can be used for BEAM robots .
Long term I 'm planning on dumping the printer altogether... once e-ink books get to the point where they 're color and cheap , I wo n't need paper hardcopy , I 'll just transfer over the docs to my e-book .
Erik</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have run into the same problem with printers... by the time I print enough to use up the first ink cartridge, there's a better new printer with ink for less money than the new cartridges.
No problem... I just buy the new printer.
It's a loss leader, aka the company selling it takes a loss it plans to make back through ink sales, and I don't buy ink.
So they subsidize my new printer.
For the old printer, I recycle it... either through an electronics recycling facility, or through my own hobbies.
Printers usually have one or more stepper motors, timing pulleys, belts, useful metal shafts... great for amateur robotics folks.
The electronics can be used for BEAM robots.
Long term I'm planning on dumping the printer altogether... once e-ink books get to the point where they're color and cheap, I won't need paper hardcopy, I'll just transfer over the docs to my e-book.
Erik</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30325102</id>
	<title>be smart</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1259948520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Buy printers that can use generic brand ink cartridges and also make sure when you buy it, that the cost of an ink cartridge is not &gt;= to that of the printer, also don't buy new printers right away, as the makers know this, and will intentionally lower the cost of the cartridges temporarily to make it look good, then raise the price on the cartridges , I usually wait 6 months to a year before upgrading to the next model.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Buy printers that can use generic brand ink cartridges and also make sure when you buy it , that the cost of an ink cartridge is not &gt; = to that of the printer , also do n't buy new printers right away , as the makers know this , and will intentionally lower the cost of the cartridges temporarily to make it look good , then raise the price on the cartridges , I usually wait 6 months to a year before upgrading to the next model .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Buy printers that can use generic brand ink cartridges and also make sure when you buy it, that the cost of an ink cartridge is not &gt;= to that of the printer, also don't buy new printers right away, as the makers know this, and will intentionally lower the cost of the cartridges temporarily to make it look good, then raise the price on the cartridges , I usually wait 6 months to a year before upgrading to the next model.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316860</id>
	<title>Re:The old fashioned way</title>
	<author>zotz</author>
	<datestamp>1259836980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I refill my 4-color printer with Blood, Sweat and Tears (4th bodily fluid "redacted" as this is a family site)."</p><p>Wow! I refill with 3 dog night. 4th dog optional.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I refill my 4-color printer with Blood , Sweat and Tears ( 4th bodily fluid " redacted " as this is a family site ) . " Wow !
I refill with 3 dog night .
4th dog optional .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I refill my 4-color printer with Blood, Sweat and Tears (4th bodily fluid "redacted" as this is a family site)."Wow!
I refill with 3 dog night.
4th dog optional.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320236</id>
	<title>Buy aftermarket cartridges</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259855400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Go to Ebay and buy after market cartridges.  To get 6 Epson cartridges for my R300 printer cost about $80.  I found that on EBay, I can pay less that $30 for 3 sets of catrridges, and that is after shipping charges! Thats less than $2 per cartridge folks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Go to Ebay and buy after market cartridges .
To get 6 Epson cartridges for my R300 printer cost about $ 80 .
I found that on EBay , I can pay less that $ 30 for 3 sets of catrridges , and that is after shipping charges !
Thats less than $ 2 per cartridge folks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go to Ebay and buy after market cartridges.
To get 6 Epson cartridges for my R300 printer cost about $80.
I found that on EBay, I can pay less that $30 for 3 sets of catrridges, and that is after shipping charges!
Thats less than $2 per cartridge folks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316886</id>
	<title>Re:Cheap Printer?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259837040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It says right in the summary that the new printer and spare ink for it cost less than ink for the old printer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It says right in the summary that the new printer and spare ink for it cost less than ink for the old printer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It says right in the summary that the new printer and spare ink for it cost less than ink for the old printer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316416</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318340</id>
	<title>Port Linux to run on it.</title>
	<author>logicassasin</author>
	<datestamp>1259842680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... after all, Linux has been ported to pretty much every device under the sun. Why shouldn't a printer have it's own distro too?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... after all , Linux has been ported to pretty much every device under the sun .
Why should n't a printer have it 's own distro too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... after all, Linux has been ported to pretty much every device under the sun.
Why shouldn't a printer have it's own distro too?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316976</id>
	<title>The recycling path</title>
	<author>Da\_Slayer</author>
	<datestamp>1259837400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If your going to dump the printer then why not try a local recycling company as to not create more e-waste. Some cities have non-profits like FreeGeek [ freegeek.org ] that can re-use computer equipment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If your going to dump the printer then why not try a local recycling company as to not create more e-waste .
Some cities have non-profits like FreeGeek [ freegeek.org ] that can re-use computer equipment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If your going to dump the printer then why not try a local recycling company as to not create more e-waste.
Some cities have non-profits like FreeGeek [ freegeek.org ] that can re-use computer equipment.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316778</id>
	<title>My wife codes for a printer company.</title>
	<author>motherjoe</author>
	<datestamp>1259836740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My wife codes for a printer company who shall remain nameless. It's well known they make more off the ink cartridges than the printers. Thing is it's not a renewable resource, you'd think they would figure out how make that work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My wife codes for a printer company who shall remain nameless .
It 's well known they make more off the ink cartridges than the printers .
Thing is it 's not a renewable resource , you 'd think they would figure out how make that work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My wife codes for a printer company who shall remain nameless.
It's well known they make more off the ink cartridges than the printers.
Thing is it's not a renewable resource, you'd think they would figure out how make that work.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30325382</id>
	<title>Re:The Ghetto</title>
	<author>KingAlanI</author>
	<datestamp>1259949600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't experimented with *that* disposal method, but I've noticed that on (the day before) garbage-pickup day, the scavengers will take stuff from the curb, and take it quickly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't experimented with * that * disposal method , but I 've noticed that on ( the day before ) garbage-pickup day , the scavengers will take stuff from the curb , and take it quickly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't experimented with *that* disposal method, but I've noticed that on (the day before) garbage-pickup day, the scavengers will take stuff from the curb, and take it quickly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317942</id>
	<title>Aftermarket ink.</title>
	<author>dotfile</author>
	<datestamp>1259840820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I passed on several models of printers for which no aftermarket ink cartridges cold be had.  No freaking way am I paying the insane prices they want for OEM ink.  No way.  I pay less than $6 per tank for my Canon IP4500 ink, and it's about 95\% as good as OEM, maybe better.  For black print the two are completely indistinguishable.<br> <br>
The worst POS printer I have bought in recent years has been a Lexmark.  It was the second Lexmark I have ever bought, and definitely the last, period.  I made the mistake of giving them a second chance after the complete screwing I got on one in the mid 1990s.  No improvement, this thing is an overpriced, underperforming piece of shit with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.  The Canon, on the other hand, has been one pleasant surprise after another.  Trouble-free <b>duplex</b> printing and even prints CDs, all for under $100 and with cheap, good aftermarket ink from dozens of sources.<br> <br>
You have two choices.  Buy aftermarket ink, or grab your ankles and pray for good lube.  Ya gots ta do yer homework before buying.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I passed on several models of printers for which no aftermarket ink cartridges cold be had .
No freaking way am I paying the insane prices they want for OEM ink .
No way .
I pay less than $ 6 per tank for my Canon IP4500 ink , and it 's about 95 \ % as good as OEM , maybe better .
For black print the two are completely indistinguishable .
The worst POS printer I have bought in recent years has been a Lexmark .
It was the second Lexmark I have ever bought , and definitely the last , period .
I made the mistake of giving them a second chance after the complete screwing I got on one in the mid 1990s .
No improvement , this thing is an overpriced , underperforming piece of shit with no redeeming qualities whatsoever .
The Canon , on the other hand , has been one pleasant surprise after another .
Trouble-free duplex printing and even prints CDs , all for under $ 100 and with cheap , good aftermarket ink from dozens of sources .
You have two choices .
Buy aftermarket ink , or grab your ankles and pray for good lube .
Ya gots ta do yer homework before buying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I passed on several models of printers for which no aftermarket ink cartridges cold be had.
No freaking way am I paying the insane prices they want for OEM ink.
No way.
I pay less than $6 per tank for my Canon IP4500 ink, and it's about 95\% as good as OEM, maybe better.
For black print the two are completely indistinguishable.
The worst POS printer I have bought in recent years has been a Lexmark.
It was the second Lexmark I have ever bought, and definitely the last, period.
I made the mistake of giving them a second chance after the complete screwing I got on one in the mid 1990s.
No improvement, this thing is an overpriced, underperforming piece of shit with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
The Canon, on the other hand, has been one pleasant surprise after another.
Trouble-free duplex printing and even prints CDs, all for under $100 and with cheap, good aftermarket ink from dozens of sources.
You have two choices.
Buy aftermarket ink, or grab your ankles and pray for good lube.
Ya gots ta do yer homework before buying.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321948</id>
	<title>Epson LX 800</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259920740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I still use my epson LX 800.... Dot Matrix forever....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still use my epson LX 800.... Dot Matrix forever... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still use my epson LX 800.... Dot Matrix forever....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317376</id>
	<title>Hacker Spaces</title>
	<author>morgauxo</author>
	<datestamp>1259838660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Look for a local Hacker Space or Makers club.  <a href="http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hacker\_Spaces" title="hackerspaces.org">http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hacker\_Spaces</a> [hackerspaces.org]

Someone there will take it off you and build something interesting from it.  Unless they need a printer.  Then they might use one of those refill kits.  I haven't had much success refilling cartridges myself though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Look for a local Hacker Space or Makers club .
http : //hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hacker \ _Spaces [ hackerspaces.org ] Someone there will take it off you and build something interesting from it .
Unless they need a printer .
Then they might use one of those refill kits .
I have n't had much success refilling cartridges myself though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look for a local Hacker Space or Makers club.
http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Hacker\_Spaces [hackerspaces.org]

Someone there will take it off you and build something interesting from it.
Unless they need a printer.
Then they might use one of those refill kits.
I haven't had much success refilling cartridges myself though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322358</id>
	<title>Get a Brother printer</title>
	<author>fialar</author>
	<datestamp>1259928600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Local Cartridge World here used to push Canon printers, but now Canon are forcing people to buy new ink. (They, Epson and other printer manufacturers sabotage their printers so they won't work with refilled cartridges.)</p><p>If you buy a Brother inkjet printer, all their cartridges can be refilled at a fraction of the cost and they don't play games with their<br>printers/cartridges to prevent refilled cartridges from working.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Local Cartridge World here used to push Canon printers , but now Canon are forcing people to buy new ink .
( They , Epson and other printer manufacturers sabotage their printers so they wo n't work with refilled cartridges .
) If you buy a Brother inkjet printer , all their cartridges can be refilled at a fraction of the cost and they do n't play games with theirprinters/cartridges to prevent refilled cartridges from working .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Local Cartridge World here used to push Canon printers, but now Canon are forcing people to buy new ink.
(They, Epson and other printer manufacturers sabotage their printers so they won't work with refilled cartridges.
)If you buy a Brother inkjet printer, all their cartridges can be refilled at a fraction of the cost and they don't play games with theirprinters/cartridges to prevent refilled cartridges from working.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318520</id>
	<title>Re:The old fashioned way</title>
	<author>Btarlinian</author>
	<datestamp>1259843520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I refill my 4-color printer with Blood, Sweat and Tears (4th bodily fluid "redacted" as this is a family site).</p></div><p>If you're getting blacks out of any of those, you should really go see a doctor.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I refill my 4-color printer with Blood , Sweat and Tears ( 4th bodily fluid " redacted " as this is a family site ) .If you 're getting blacks out of any of those , you should really go see a doctor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I refill my 4-color printer with Blood, Sweat and Tears (4th bodily fluid "redacted" as this is a family site).If you're getting blacks out of any of those, you should really go see a doctor.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316520</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30323872</id>
	<title>Why print?</title>
	<author>X10</author>
	<datestamp>1259943000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought a cheap printer 18 months ago. During those 18 months, I printed 20 pages at most, only letters I had to send to organizations that you can't send email to. The ink in the printer, no matter how little they put in, will probably dry out before it runs out. Compared to those of you who buy new cartrigdes every one or two months, how many trees have I saved?</p><p>Just don't print. Save trees.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought a cheap printer 18 months ago .
During those 18 months , I printed 20 pages at most , only letters I had to send to organizations that you ca n't send email to .
The ink in the printer , no matter how little they put in , will probably dry out before it runs out .
Compared to those of you who buy new cartrigdes every one or two months , how many trees have I saved ? Just do n't print .
Save trees .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought a cheap printer 18 months ago.
During those 18 months, I printed 20 pages at most, only letters I had to send to organizations that you can't send email to.
The ink in the printer, no matter how little they put in, will probably dry out before it runs out.
Compared to those of you who buy new cartrigdes every one or two months, how many trees have I saved?Just don't print.
Save trees.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322522</id>
	<title>Re:Don't buy inkjets period</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1259931960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>People still buying inkjets and bitching about it? Is lexmark STILL in business?</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Inkjets are small and cheap to buy, so they have mass appeal.  Capitalism in action.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>People still buying inkjets and bitching about it ?
Is lexmark STILL in business ?
Inkjets are small and cheap to buy , so they have mass appeal .
Capitalism in action .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People still buying inkjets and bitching about it?
Is lexmark STILL in business?
Inkjets are small and cheap to buy, so they have mass appeal.
Capitalism in action.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316982</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space re-enactment</title>
	<author>Anonymous Freak</author>
	<datestamp>1259837400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It works, it really does!</p><p>(Google just turned on revenue sharing for my <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3bfQoAcETg" title="youtube.com">most popular YouTube video</a> [youtube.com].)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It works , it really does !
( Google just turned on revenue sharing for my most popular YouTube video [ youtube.com ] .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It works, it really does!
(Google just turned on revenue sharing for my most popular YouTube video [youtube.com].
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316458</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320528</id>
	<title>dyesub?  Seriously?</title>
	<author>SuperBanana</author>
	<datestamp>1259857980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>And for photos, dye-subs. Even if they don't beat inkjets on dpi, my 300dpi dyesub beats any 1200x1200 in actual results. You JUST DON'T see the millions of dots with dyesub, it's all blended together, and because there is a clear coat, no smearing of the images, even if you lick your fingers and go across the picture right after it was printed. It looks as good or better than from professional print shop.</i>

</p><p>Um, no- dye sub (wax) printers produce unbelievably fragile prints.  You can scrape the wax right off the page with your fingernail, it creases easily, etc.  Also, since it's a dye, and not a pigment, it fades within months.

</p><p>They also suck up enormous amounts of energy and take a good 5-10 minutes (or longer) to warm up because it has to melt (and keep melted) all the damn wax and internal printer bits.  Even with fairly sophisticated energy saving functions, the damn things still eat you out of house and home, and the melted wax has a smell that permeates the room.  If you want to move the printer, you have to trigger a special cool-down mode and wait a good 30 minutes so that you don't spill wax inside the machine...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And for photos , dye-subs .
Even if they do n't beat inkjets on dpi , my 300dpi dyesub beats any 1200x1200 in actual results .
You JUST DO N'T see the millions of dots with dyesub , it 's all blended together , and because there is a clear coat , no smearing of the images , even if you lick your fingers and go across the picture right after it was printed .
It looks as good or better than from professional print shop .
Um , no- dye sub ( wax ) printers produce unbelievably fragile prints .
You can scrape the wax right off the page with your fingernail , it creases easily , etc .
Also , since it 's a dye , and not a pigment , it fades within months .
They also suck up enormous amounts of energy and take a good 5-10 minutes ( or longer ) to warm up because it has to melt ( and keep melted ) all the damn wax and internal printer bits .
Even with fairly sophisticated energy saving functions , the damn things still eat you out of house and home , and the melted wax has a smell that permeates the room .
If you want to move the printer , you have to trigger a special cool-down mode and wait a good 30 minutes so that you do n't spill wax inside the machine.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> And for photos, dye-subs.
Even if they don't beat inkjets on dpi, my 300dpi dyesub beats any 1200x1200 in actual results.
You JUST DON'T see the millions of dots with dyesub, it's all blended together, and because there is a clear coat, no smearing of the images, even if you lick your fingers and go across the picture right after it was printed.
It looks as good or better than from professional print shop.
Um, no- dye sub (wax) printers produce unbelievably fragile prints.
You can scrape the wax right off the page with your fingernail, it creases easily, etc.
Also, since it's a dye, and not a pigment, it fades within months.
They also suck up enormous amounts of energy and take a good 5-10 minutes (or longer) to warm up because it has to melt (and keep melted) all the damn wax and internal printer bits.
Even with fairly sophisticated energy saving functions, the damn things still eat you out of house and home, and the melted wax has a smell that permeates the room.
If you want to move the printer, you have to trigger a special cool-down mode and wait a good 30 minutes so that you don't spill wax inside the machine...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321664</id>
	<title>Re:Don't buy inkjets period</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259959080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree 100\%. I wasted uncountable thousands over the years on inkjets. First few weeks, fantastic, then clogging, blotching, nozzles going out.. nevermind the CO$T of those cartridges. By the time you buy the 3rd set of cartridges the printer is not printing any sort of real quality either.<br>After no printer at all for a few years, we bought a color laser - great. We will see how the drum is doing when we reach the end of the toner. At that point we might put new toner in or dump it for the newer-faster model of the day.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)<br>I worked with a dye-sub ONCE - way back when they were $50,000 a throw. I still have some prints from that that look as good as the day they came off that machine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree 100 \ % .
I wasted uncountable thousands over the years on inkjets .
First few weeks , fantastic , then clogging , blotching , nozzles going out.. nevermind the CO $ T of those cartridges .
By the time you buy the 3rd set of cartridges the printer is not printing any sort of real quality either.After no printer at all for a few years , we bought a color laser - great .
We will see how the drum is doing when we reach the end of the toner .
At that point we might put new toner in or dump it for the newer-faster model of the day .
: ) I worked with a dye-sub ONCE - way back when they were $ 50,000 a throw .
I still have some prints from that that look as good as the day they came off that machine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree 100\%.
I wasted uncountable thousands over the years on inkjets.
First few weeks, fantastic, then clogging, blotching, nozzles going out.. nevermind the CO$T of those cartridges.
By the time you buy the 3rd set of cartridges the printer is not printing any sort of real quality either.After no printer at all for a few years, we bought a color laser - great.
We will see how the drum is doing when we reach the end of the toner.
At that point we might put new toner in or dump it for the newer-faster model of the day.
:)I worked with a dye-sub ONCE - way back when they were $50,000 a throw.
I still have some prints from that that look as good as the day they came off that machine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317892</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30321860</id>
	<title>The users want these printers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259919360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>User want these printers. When they go out to buy a printer, they search for a cheap, a very cheap printer. They don't look at the quality, or the price of the consumables, the only look at the price. Once they start using the printer they see the quality sucks and the ink is as expensive as gold. And then they start complaining. It is there own fault, they should have looked at what they bought, not only at the price. And because the users want cheap, the constructors give them cheap machines and earn there money at the consumables. The cheaper the printer, the more expensive the consumables, and this counts for all constructors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>User want these printers .
When they go out to buy a printer , they search for a cheap , a very cheap printer .
They do n't look at the quality , or the price of the consumables , the only look at the price .
Once they start using the printer they see the quality sucks and the ink is as expensive as gold .
And then they start complaining .
It is there own fault , they should have looked at what they bought , not only at the price .
And because the users want cheap , the constructors give them cheap machines and earn there money at the consumables .
The cheaper the printer , the more expensive the consumables , and this counts for all constructors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>User want these printers.
When they go out to buy a printer, they search for a cheap, a very cheap printer.
They don't look at the quality, or the price of the consumables, the only look at the price.
Once they start using the printer they see the quality sucks and the ink is as expensive as gold.
And then they start complaining.
It is there own fault, they should have looked at what they bought, not only at the price.
And because the users want cheap, the constructors give them cheap machines and earn there money at the consumables.
The cheaper the printer, the more expensive the consumables, and this counts for all constructors.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30319190</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Twinbee</author>
	<datestamp>1259847060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, but doesn't competition sort that out? And why is laser ink so much cheaper anyway?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but does n't competition sort that out ?
And why is laser ink so much cheaper anyway ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but doesn't competition sort that out?
And why is laser ink so much cheaper anyway?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316894</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30322414</id>
	<title>Re:Office Space</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259929440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>All you need is a bat</p></div><p>I got somethin' for that,<br>It goes bla ka ka kat (You know what that is)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>All you need is a batI got somethin ' for that,It goes bla ka ka kat ( You know what that is )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All you need is a batI got somethin' for that,It goes bla ka ka kat (You know what that is)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316418</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317204</id>
	<title>ebay</title>
	<author>wonderboss</author>
	<datestamp>1259838060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is indeed one born every sixty seconds.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is indeed one born every sixty seconds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is indeed one born every sixty seconds.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30326438</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Thelasko</author>
	<datestamp>1259954160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I think it's time that Congress look into market collusion and racketeering.</p></div><p> <a href="http://store.kodak.com/store/ekconsus/en\_US/list/All-in-One\_Printers/categoryID.28889300" title="kodak.com">Kodak is supposed to have competitive ink prices.</a> [kodak.com]  The only thing that is keeping me from buying one is the <a href="http://www.openprinting.org/show\_printer.cgi?recnum=Kodak-EasyShare\_5100\_All\_In\_One\_Printer" title="openprinting.org">paperweight</a> [openprinting.org] status of most of the Linux drivers.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's time that Congress look into market collusion and racketeering .
Kodak is supposed to have competitive ink prices .
[ kodak.com ] The only thing that is keeping me from buying one is the paperweight [ openprinting.org ] status of most of the Linux drivers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's time that Congress look into market collusion and racketeering.
Kodak is supposed to have competitive ink prices.
[kodak.com]  The only thing that is keeping me from buying one is the paperweight [openprinting.org] status of most of the Linux drivers.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30318080</id>
	<title>Re:not a bargain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259841540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Prices aren't based on cost. No prices from major corporations are based on cost. They're based on Willingness to Pay: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willingness\_to\_pay" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willingness\_to\_pay</a> [wikipedia.org] . This is a very basic economics/business concept.</p></div><p>It isn't willingness to pay it's lack of options. The companies have all been price fixing for years and when smaller companies tried to provide cheaper ink they suddenly "needed" to add computer chips on the ink cartridges. The problem is they give away the printers then ream you for ink. People have gotten used to cheap printers but I'd rather pay twice as much and have a printer that lasts longer and get the ink for half the price. At least I'd feel better about actually using it. One of the scams is the fact they won't print black if the color is out but every time you do a head cleaning it uses up color ink. It's why no one sells a Black only printer, they make a ton of money forcing you to buy color ink even if you only print text. It's all a scam and has nothing to do with customer demand.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Prices are n't based on cost .
No prices from major corporations are based on cost .
They 're based on Willingness to Pay : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willingness \ _to \ _pay [ wikipedia.org ] .
This is a very basic economics/business concept.It is n't willingness to pay it 's lack of options .
The companies have all been price fixing for years and when smaller companies tried to provide cheaper ink they suddenly " needed " to add computer chips on the ink cartridges .
The problem is they give away the printers then ream you for ink .
People have gotten used to cheap printers but I 'd rather pay twice as much and have a printer that lasts longer and get the ink for half the price .
At least I 'd feel better about actually using it .
One of the scams is the fact they wo n't print black if the color is out but every time you do a head cleaning it uses up color ink .
It 's why no one sells a Black only printer , they make a ton of money forcing you to buy color ink even if you only print text .
It 's all a scam and has nothing to do with customer demand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Prices aren't based on cost.
No prices from major corporations are based on cost.
They're based on Willingness to Pay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willingness\_to\_pay [wikipedia.org] .
This is a very basic economics/business concept.It isn't willingness to pay it's lack of options.
The companies have all been price fixing for years and when smaller companies tried to provide cheaper ink they suddenly "needed" to add computer chips on the ink cartridges.
The problem is they give away the printers then ream you for ink.
People have gotten used to cheap printers but I'd rather pay twice as much and have a printer that lasts longer and get the ink for half the price.
At least I'd feel better about actually using it.
One of the scams is the fact they won't print black if the color is out but every time you do a head cleaning it uses up color ink.
It's why no one sells a Black only printer, they make a ton of money forcing you to buy color ink even if you only print text.
It's all a scam and has nothing to do with customer demand.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30324136</id>
	<title>The schools will take it (don't be that mean!)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259944320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Please do NOT donate to your local school district.  some clueless administrator will thank you profoundly.  Then they will give it to a teacher (or business or Computer Science dept.) and expect the teacher to smile at the gift.  When the teacher asks for money to buy ink, they will be berated for wanting to spend that amount of money.  If they ask for a printer with reasonable ink/toner costs, they will be yelled at for wanting to spend precious district resources when they have a "perfectly good' (though inkless) printer.
We got this a lot when people wanted to get rid of mercury.  Give to the the school!  Do you have any idea what it costs to get rid of hazardous waste?  Of course, the teacher caught the flack!  oh, well<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Please do NOT donate to your local school district .
some clueless administrator will thank you profoundly .
Then they will give it to a teacher ( or business or Computer Science dept .
) and expect the teacher to smile at the gift .
When the teacher asks for money to buy ink , they will be berated for wanting to spend that amount of money .
If they ask for a printer with reasonable ink/toner costs , they will be yelled at for wanting to spend precious district resources when they have a " perfectly good ' ( though inkless ) printer .
We got this a lot when people wanted to get rid of mercury .
Give to the the school !
Do you have any idea what it costs to get rid of hazardous waste ?
Of course , the teacher caught the flack !
oh , well .... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please do NOT donate to your local school district.
some clueless administrator will thank you profoundly.
Then they will give it to a teacher (or business or Computer Science dept.
) and expect the teacher to smile at the gift.
When the teacher asks for money to buy ink, they will be berated for wanting to spend that amount of money.
If they ask for a printer with reasonable ink/toner costs, they will be yelled at for wanting to spend precious district resources when they have a "perfectly good' (though inkless) printer.
We got this a lot when people wanted to get rid of mercury.
Give to the the school!
Do you have any idea what it costs to get rid of hazardous waste?
Of course, the teacher caught the flack!
oh, well .....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30324160</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259944440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One problem with the calculations for most home users, and many SOHO users - toner doesn't dry out, and the cartridges don't "timeout".<br>Ink still has those disadvantages, even if you find cost per page to be cheaper. Then again, your initial investment costs can take longer to recoup for a laser, especially for most home users.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One problem with the calculations for most home users , and many SOHO users - toner does n't dry out , and the cartridges do n't " timeout " .Ink still has those disadvantages , even if you find cost per page to be cheaper .
Then again , your initial investment costs can take longer to recoup for a laser , especially for most home users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One problem with the calculations for most home users, and many SOHO users - toner doesn't dry out, and the cartridges don't "timeout".Ink still has those disadvantages, even if you find cost per page to be cheaper.
Then again, your initial investment costs can take longer to recoup for a laser, especially for most home users.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317370</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30331534</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>StikyPad</author>
	<datestamp>1259935620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>250 sheets on the 2600n is a decent tray size compared to many consumer printers, but for the love of God, everybody knows that reams are 500 sheets.  Why don't printer manufacturers just make 500 sheet trays?  It's not like the extra inch of metal and plastic would cost more than a couple bucks.</p><p>Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>250 sheets on the 2600n is a decent tray size compared to many consumer printers , but for the love of God , everybody knows that reams are 500 sheets .
Why do n't printer manufacturers just make 500 sheet trays ?
It 's not like the extra inch of metal and plastic would cost more than a couple bucks.Sorry , just a pet peeve of mine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>250 sheets on the 2600n is a decent tray size compared to many consumer printers, but for the love of God, everybody knows that reams are 500 sheets.
Why don't printer manufacturers just make 500 sheet trays?
It's not like the extra inch of metal and plastic would cost more than a couple bucks.Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316884</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316444</id>
	<title>send it back to Epson</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259835840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and if you bought a different brand, attach a congratulation for a lost customer</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and if you bought a different brand , attach a congratulation for a lost customer</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and if you bought a different brand, attach a congratulation for a lost customer</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30320286</id>
	<title>Re:Prevent.</title>
	<author>six11</author>
	<datestamp>1259855820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Next - a series of combat robot competitions where the components must come from discarded printers. Who's game?</p></div><p>Sounds like a damn fine basis for a DIY robohacking class.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Next - a series of combat robot competitions where the components must come from discarded printers .
Who 's game ? Sounds like a damn fine basis for a DIY robohacking class .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Next - a series of combat robot competitions where the components must come from discarded printers.
Who's game?Sounds like a damn fine basis for a DIY robohacking class.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316508</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30317072</id>
	<title>Re:I Second this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259837700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Given the (almost strikingly low) prices of online photo-finishers these days, the only reasons to print pictures at home are: a)I need them <i>now</i>. b)they "appeal to the prurient interest".<br> <br>

Not only does the cost per print tend to be lower, the results are usually better, much closer to the results of classic chemical prints.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Given the ( almost strikingly low ) prices of online photo-finishers these days , the only reasons to print pictures at home are : a ) I need them now .
b ) they " appeal to the prurient interest " .
Not only does the cost per print tend to be lower , the results are usually better , much closer to the results of classic chemical prints .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given the (almost strikingly low) prices of online photo-finishers these days, the only reasons to print pictures at home are: a)I need them now.
b)they "appeal to the prurient interest".
Not only does the cost per print tend to be lower, the results are usually better, much closer to the results of classic chemical prints.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_211250.30316776</parent>
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