<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_03_1814238</id>
	<title>Google Launches Public DNS Resolver</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1259867040000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>AdmiralXyz writes <i>"Google has <a href="http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2009/12/introducing-google-public-dns-new-dns.html">announced the launch</a> of their free DNS resolution service, called <a href="http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/">Google Public DNS</a>. According to their blog post, Google Public DNS uses continuous record prefetching to avoid cache misses &mdash;  hopefully making the service faster  &mdash;  and implements a variety of techniques to block spoofing attempts. They also say that (unlike an increasing number of ISPs), Google Public DNS behaves exactly according to the DNS standard, and will not redirect you to advertising in the event of a failed lookup. Very cool, but of course there are questions about Google's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>AdmiralXyz writes " Google has announced the launch of their free DNS resolution service , called Google Public DNS .
According to their blog post , Google Public DNS uses continuous record prefetching to avoid cache misses    hopefully making the service faster    and implements a variety of techniques to block spoofing attempts .
They also say that ( unlike an increasing number of ISPs ) , Google Public DNS behaves exactly according to the DNS standard , and will not redirect you to advertising in the event of a failed lookup .
Very cool , but of course there are questions about Google 's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit .
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<sentencetext>AdmiralXyz writes "Google has announced the launch of their free DNS resolution service, called Google Public DNS.
According to their blog post, Google Public DNS uses continuous record prefetching to avoid cache misses —  hopefully making the service faster  —  and implements a variety of techniques to block spoofing attempts.
They also say that (unlike an increasing number of ISPs), Google Public DNS behaves exactly according to the DNS standard, and will not redirect you to advertising in the event of a failed lookup.
Very cool, but of course there are questions about Google's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit.
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30321058</id>
	<title>Re:At least they have a clear privacy policy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259863860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But they keep a small subset for permanent storage. Notice the value of small isn't quantified? So they could take about 50\% of all the DNS logs, and call that a "small subset", but that's really a lot of kept data for permanent storage.</p><p>So the privacy policy may be adequate for some, but it definitely isn't a clear one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But they keep a small subset for permanent storage .
Notice the value of small is n't quantified ?
So they could take about 50 \ % of all the DNS logs , and call that a " small subset " , but that 's really a lot of kept data for permanent storage.So the privacy policy may be adequate for some , but it definitely is n't a clear one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But they keep a small subset for permanent storage.
Notice the value of small isn't quantified?
So they could take about 50\% of all the DNS logs, and call that a "small subset", but that's really a lot of kept data for permanent storage.So the privacy policy may be adequate for some, but it definitely isn't a clear one.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314390</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30325606</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>holiggan</author>
	<datestamp>1259950560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>excluding US ISP's, of course, who serve ads on non-existing domains for their users anyway</p></div><p>I guess you answered your own question<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Seriously, I've started using OpenDNS when my lame ISP's DNS started folding for no apparent reason (yes, even the secondary). Net is connected, all up and running, but name resolution, nada...</p><p>So I'm an OpenDNS happy user<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) However, I'll give Google's DNS a go<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) I doubt my web browsing will be any faster, but I just have to try these new shiny services ehehehe</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>excluding US ISP 's , of course , who serve ads on non-existing domains for their users anywayI guess you answered your own question : ) Seriously , I 've started using OpenDNS when my lame ISP 's DNS started folding for no apparent reason ( yes , even the secondary ) .
Net is connected , all up and running , but name resolution , nada...So I 'm an OpenDNS happy user : ) However , I 'll give Google 's DNS a go : ) I doubt my web browsing will be any faster , but I just have to try these new shiny services ehehehe</tokentext>
<sentencetext>excluding US ISP's, of course, who serve ads on non-existing domains for their users anywayI guess you answered your own question :)Seriously, I've started using OpenDNS when my lame ISP's DNS started folding for no apparent reason (yes, even the secondary).
Net is connected, all up and running, but name resolution, nada...So I'm an OpenDNS happy user :) However, I'll give Google's DNS a go :) I doubt my web browsing will be any faster, but I just have to try these new shiny services ehehehe
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316110</id>
	<title>Re:Latency: most ISPs should win hands down</title>
	<author>qmaqdk</author>
	<datestamp>1259834580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>RTT to my own resolver: microseconds...</p></div><p>Wow! What kind of pipe do you have?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>RTT to my own resolver : microseconds...Wow !
What kind of pipe do you have ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RTT to my own resolver: microseconds...Wow!
What kind of pipe do you have?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314706</id>
	<title>Re:8.8.8.8/4</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259872200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"To try it out:</p><p>Configure your network settings to use the IP addresses 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 as your DNS servers..."</p><p>Simple enough to remember which is great. Also - could this be used to circumvent some of the internet security at some workplaces where they seem to run a blacklist of specific sites?</p></div><p>Not if they dont grant you admin priveleges.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" To try it out : Configure your network settings to use the IP addresses 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 as your DNS servers... " Simple enough to remember which is great .
Also - could this be used to circumvent some of the internet security at some workplaces where they seem to run a blacklist of specific sites ? Not if they dont grant you admin priveleges .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"To try it out:Configure your network settings to use the IP addresses 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 as your DNS servers..."Simple enough to remember which is great.
Also - could this be used to circumvent some of the internet security at some workplaces where they seem to run a blacklist of specific sites?Not if they dont grant you admin priveleges.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315846</id>
	<title>Open mouth, insert foot....</title>
	<author>Joce640k</author>
	<datestamp>1259833620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The entire world now knows you don't bother reading articles before posting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The entire world now knows you do n't bother reading articles before posting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The entire world now knows you don't bother reading articles before posting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314694</id>
	<title>Re:Don't get me wrong, I love Google.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259872140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>with my Droid where I navigate to, my e-mails, my documents. WOW.</i></p><p>How'd you get world of warcraft running on your phone?!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>with my Droid where I navigate to , my e-mails , my documents .
WOW.How 'd you get world of warcraft running on your phone ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with my Droid where I navigate to, my e-mails, my documents.
WOW.How'd you get world of warcraft running on your phone?
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314392</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30320198</id>
	<title>Re:8.8.8.8/4</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259854920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>However much they pay, it's great that they got this address--I don't plan to use Google DNS in general, but now whenever my DNS goes down I'll know the address for an alternate server...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>However much they pay , it 's great that they got this address--I do n't plan to use Google DNS in general , but now whenever my DNS goes down I 'll know the address for an alternate server.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>However much they pay, it's great that they got this address--I don't plan to use Google DNS in general, but now whenever my DNS goes down I'll know the address for an alternate server...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314524</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314680</id>
	<title>Benefit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259872020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>What would be the benefit of this as opposed to using the Level3 DNS servers?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What would be the benefit of this as opposed to using the Level3 DNS servers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What would be the benefit of this as opposed to using the Level3 DNS servers?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314590</id>
	<title>What's their motivation?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259871660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Other than discovering new sites for their spiders to crawl and index, what's in it for Google??</htmltext>
<tokenext>Other than discovering new sites for their spiders to crawl and index , what 's in it for Google ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Other than discovering new sites for their spiders to crawl and index, what's in it for Google?
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314796</id>
	<title>Re:Don't get me wrong, I love Google.</title>
	<author>TrippTDF</author>
	<datestamp>1259872560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not fearful of the current Google, I'm fearful of the Google when we're three generations of leadership down the road and someone with fewer scruples is at the helm.  What we need now more than ever is rock-solid privacy laws in this country that put looking at someone's data on par with searching their home... it can be done, but you need to get warrants and have a damn good reason to be doing it.<br> <br>

There is a lot of amazing advantages to having your data aggregated the way that Google has it, and it's not rocket science to manage the downsides.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not fearful of the current Google , I 'm fearful of the Google when we 're three generations of leadership down the road and someone with fewer scruples is at the helm .
What we need now more than ever is rock-solid privacy laws in this country that put looking at someone 's data on par with searching their home... it can be done , but you need to get warrants and have a damn good reason to be doing it .
There is a lot of amazing advantages to having your data aggregated the way that Google has it , and it 's not rocket science to manage the downsides .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not fearful of the current Google, I'm fearful of the Google when we're three generations of leadership down the road and someone with fewer scruples is at the helm.
What we need now more than ever is rock-solid privacy laws in this country that put looking at someone's data on par with searching their home... it can be done, but you need to get warrants and have a damn good reason to be doing it.
There is a lot of amazing advantages to having your data aggregated the way that Google has it, and it's not rocket science to manage the downsides.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314392</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315760</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>fnj</author>
	<datestamp>1259833260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because your own caching name server will still suck on the crappy comcast or other nameserver for its feed, it just caches the results.  All the fundamental drawbacks are still there (terrible performance, hijacking lookup failures, etc).  OK, the terrible performance is mitigated by your cache, but it's still hurting you on every cache miss.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because your own caching name server will still suck on the crappy comcast or other nameserver for its feed , it just caches the results .
All the fundamental drawbacks are still there ( terrible performance , hijacking lookup failures , etc ) .
OK , the terrible performance is mitigated by your cache , but it 's still hurting you on every cache miss .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because your own caching name server will still suck on the crappy comcast or other nameserver for its feed, it just caches the results.
All the fundamental drawbacks are still there (terrible performance, hijacking lookup failures, etc).
OK, the terrible performance is mitigated by your cache, but it's still hurting you on every cache miss.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30320138</id>
	<title>Re:Why all the paranoia over Google?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259854320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Has Google actually done something "Evil" that I missed? Or it is just paranoia? I personally think that it's much more likely that OpenDNS or my ISP would do something crazy with this sort of information than Google.</p></div><p>Google doesn't have to "do" anything with the data... that's what the government is for. See <a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/18/0833247" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">COPA</a> [slashdot.org]</p><p>They were able to dodge that bullet, but will they (and us) be so lucky next time?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Has Google actually done something " Evil " that I missed ?
Or it is just paranoia ?
I personally think that it 's much more likely that OpenDNS or my ISP would do something crazy with this sort of information than Google.Google does n't have to " do " anything with the data... that 's what the government is for .
See COPA [ slashdot.org ] They were able to dodge that bullet , but will they ( and us ) be so lucky next time ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has Google actually done something "Evil" that I missed?
Or it is just paranoia?
I personally think that it's much more likely that OpenDNS or my ISP would do something crazy with this sort of information than Google.Google doesn't have to "do" anything with the data... that's what the government is for.
See COPA [slashdot.org]They were able to dodge that bullet, but will they (and us) be so lucky next time?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314570</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316234</id>
	<title>Re:Why all the paranoia over Google?</title>
	<author>TheGratefulNet</author>
	<datestamp>1259835120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>there is a level of suspicion and fear directed at Google that just seems extreme.</i></p><p>they have an EXTREME (too much for 1 company, some would argue) amount of OUR data.</p><p>get your head out of your ass.  THINK.  they want our data for a reason.  they are not in this for love-of-fellow-man (no matter WHAT shiny things they 'give' you).</p><p>below the surface, there is undoubtedly a LOT more than meets the eye.  I'm just not buying this bullshit about them being 'not evil'.  I've seen them from the inside, too and they don't seem all that warm-n-fuzzy to me, to tell you the truth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>there is a level of suspicion and fear directed at Google that just seems extreme.they have an EXTREME ( too much for 1 company , some would argue ) amount of OUR data.get your head out of your ass .
THINK. they want our data for a reason .
they are not in this for love-of-fellow-man ( no matter WHAT shiny things they 'give ' you ) .below the surface , there is undoubtedly a LOT more than meets the eye .
I 'm just not buying this bullshit about them being 'not evil' .
I 've seen them from the inside , too and they do n't seem all that warm-n-fuzzy to me , to tell you the truth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there is a level of suspicion and fear directed at Google that just seems extreme.they have an EXTREME (too much for 1 company, some would argue) amount of OUR data.get your head out of your ass.
THINK.  they want our data for a reason.
they are not in this for love-of-fellow-man (no matter WHAT shiny things they 'give' you).below the surface, there is undoubtedly a LOT more than meets the eye.
I'm just not buying this bullshit about them being 'not evil'.
I've seen them from the inside, too and they don't seem all that warm-n-fuzzy to me, to tell you the truth.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314570</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30323216</id>
	<title>Re:8.8.8.8/4</title>
	<author>modestgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1259939340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Any sysadmin who is in charge of said filtering is likely blocking all DNS servers at the firewall and only allowing their DNS servers to perform outbound requests. And/or intercepting DNS requests at the transparent proxy and forwarding them to their internal DNS servers which are authorized to perform outbound requests. Not to mention that you need admin privileges to change the DNS servers on your NIC. If you're thinking rogue DHCP server, they can be blocked rather easily using DHCP snooping on the switch.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Any sysadmin who is in charge of said filtering is likely blocking all DNS servers at the firewall and only allowing their DNS servers to perform outbound requests .
And/or intercepting DNS requests at the transparent proxy and forwarding them to their internal DNS servers which are authorized to perform outbound requests .
Not to mention that you need admin privileges to change the DNS servers on your NIC .
If you 're thinking rogue DHCP server , they can be blocked rather easily using DHCP snooping on the switch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any sysadmin who is in charge of said filtering is likely blocking all DNS servers at the firewall and only allowing their DNS servers to perform outbound requests.
And/or intercepting DNS requests at the transparent proxy and forwarding them to their internal DNS servers which are authorized to perform outbound requests.
Not to mention that you need admin privileges to change the DNS servers on your NIC.
If you're thinking rogue DHCP server, they can be blocked rather easily using DHCP snooping on the switch.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315852</id>
	<title>Re:OpenNIC has been offering this for years now...</title>
	<author>rhathar</author>
	<datestamp>1259833680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Except that Google only stores records for 24-48 hours and then deletes them <b>and</b> does not share the data with its ads department or any other Google services.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Except that Google only stores records for 24-48 hours and then deletes them and does not share the data with its ads department or any other Google services .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except that Google only stores records for 24-48 hours and then deletes them and does not share the data with its ads department or any other Google services.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314902</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30323296</id>
	<title>Re:OpenDNS and DynDNS offer more features</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259939760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>DynDNS's redirects are honest searches, not ad-choked.</p></div></blockquote><p>Ads or not doesn't change anything. They are still deliberately answering to DNS requests with information they know is incorrect. I don't consider that to be honest.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>DynDNS 's redirects are honest searches , not ad-choked.Ads or not does n't change anything .
They are still deliberately answering to DNS requests with information they know is incorrect .
I do n't consider that to be honest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DynDNS's redirects are honest searches, not ad-choked.Ads or not doesn't change anything.
They are still deliberately answering to DNS requests with information they know is incorrect.
I don't consider that to be honest.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314692</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30326516</id>
	<title>Re:Don't get me wrong, I love Google.</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1259954400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google knows less about you than most credit card companies do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google knows less about you than most credit card companies do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google knows less about you than most credit card companies do.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314392</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316656</id>
	<title>Re:Why all the paranoia over Google?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... Has Google actually done something "Evil" that I missed?</p></div><p>Not yet, but they will. It's only a matter of time. We should probably start a pool on what/when it will be.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... Has Google actually done something " Evil " that I missed ? Not yet , but they will .
It 's only a matter of time .
We should probably start a pool on what/when it will be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... Has Google actually done something "Evil" that I missed?Not yet, but they will.
It's only a matter of time.
We should probably start a pool on what/when it will be.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314570</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315268</id>
	<title>Re:I guess it is good news...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259831100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Almost everyone has this setup by default.  Most cable/dsl modems do some dns caching and present themselves as the dns server in dhcp.  Some home firewall/routers do this too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Almost everyone has this setup by default .
Most cable/dsl modems do some dns caching and present themselves as the dns server in dhcp .
Some home firewall/routers do this too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Almost everyone has this setup by default.
Most cable/dsl modems do some dns caching and present themselves as the dns server in dhcp.
Some home firewall/routers do this too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314340</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316734</id>
	<title>Re:Latency: most ISPs should win hands down</title>
	<author>drsparkly</author>
	<datestamp>1259836620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Same problem I have with OpenDNS - being from Australia, the physical location of the servers is an issue here.</p><p>Besides, my ISP doesn't do anything evil with its DNS servers.</p><p>Can't see the point of this Google.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Same problem I have with OpenDNS - being from Australia , the physical location of the servers is an issue here.Besides , my ISP does n't do anything evil with its DNS servers.Ca n't see the point of this Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same problem I have with OpenDNS - being from Australia, the physical location of the servers is an issue here.Besides, my ISP doesn't do anything evil with its DNS servers.Can't see the point of this Google.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315254</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>TooMuchToDo</author>
	<datestamp>1259831040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But why would one change to use Google's DNS? If you're technical enough and care about such, you're way better off setting up your own recursive DNS server.</p></div><p>Because it's clearly easier for me to setup my own recursive DNS server than it is to point to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4. I have better things to do than manage basic infrastructure like that at home. Off-load the little stuff so you can do the big stuff, the work stuff, and the fun stuff.</p><p>
Regarding datamining:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>They state very bluntly that IP addresses are expunged from the logs after 48 hours, and that no data is shared with Google Accounts or other Google services. They still get to play with a lot of aggregated data, but this seems like a fairly non-evil way to do it. Good for them. <a href="http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq.html#privacy" title="google.com">http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq.html#privacy</a> [google.com]</p> </div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But why would one change to use Google 's DNS ?
If you 're technical enough and care about such , you 're way better off setting up your own recursive DNS server.Because it 's clearly easier for me to setup my own recursive DNS server than it is to point to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 .
I have better things to do than manage basic infrastructure like that at home .
Off-load the little stuff so you can do the big stuff , the work stuff , and the fun stuff .
Regarding datamining : They state very bluntly that IP addresses are expunged from the logs after 48 hours , and that no data is shared with Google Accounts or other Google services .
They still get to play with a lot of aggregated data , but this seems like a fairly non-evil way to do it .
Good for them .
http : //code.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq.html # privacy [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But why would one change to use Google's DNS?
If you're technical enough and care about such, you're way better off setting up your own recursive DNS server.Because it's clearly easier for me to setup my own recursive DNS server than it is to point to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4.
I have better things to do than manage basic infrastructure like that at home.
Off-load the little stuff so you can do the big stuff, the work stuff, and the fun stuff.
Regarding datamining:They state very bluntly that IP addresses are expunged from the logs after 48 hours, and that no data is shared with Google Accounts or other Google services.
They still get to play with a lot of aggregated data, but this seems like a fairly non-evil way to do it.
Good for them.
http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq.html#privacy [google.com] 
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314810</id>
	<title>Slowness</title>
	<author>QuietLagoon</author>
	<datestamp>1259872680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If google really wants to speed up the browsing experience, they would work on speeding up the slow ad servers.....</htmltext>
<tokenext>If google really wants to speed up the browsing experience , they would work on speeding up the slow ad servers.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If google really wants to speed up the browsing experience, they would work on speeding up the slow ad servers.....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315150</id>
	<title>The formula for /. success</title>
	<author>gregarican</author>
	<datestamp>1259873940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google + Apple + Linux - Microsoft - DRM ==<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. Nirvana. I haven't read up on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. in a few years, but coming back to it seems like catching up on an old soap opera I've missed for a few years. The story lines are much the same...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google + Apple + Linux - Microsoft - DRM = = / .
Nirvana. I have n't read up on / .
in a few years , but coming back to it seems like catching up on an old soap opera I 've missed for a few years .
The story lines are much the same.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google + Apple + Linux - Microsoft - DRM == /.
Nirvana. I haven't read up on /.
in a few years, but coming back to it seems like catching up on an old soap opera I've missed for a few years.
The story lines are much the same...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314392</id>
	<title>Don't get me wrong, I love Google.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259870820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>But it sure seems like they're getting more and more of my personal information lately.  What I search for, where I surf to, with my Droid where I navigate to, my e-mails, my documents.  WOW.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But it sure seems like they 're getting more and more of my personal information lately .
What I search for , where I surf to , with my Droid where I navigate to , my e-mails , my documents .
WOW .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But it sure seems like they're getting more and more of my personal information lately.
What I search for, where I surf to, with my Droid where I navigate to, my e-mails, my documents.
WOW.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316070</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259834460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because my ISP uses their DNS servers to block access to sites like thepiratebay.org.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because my ISP uses their DNS servers to block access to sites like thepiratebay.org .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because my ISP uses their DNS servers to block access to sites like thepiratebay.org.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315000</id>
	<title>Re:NTP pool &amp; GeoIP</title>
	<author>robmv</author>
	<datestamp>1259873460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>then change your ntp configuration to use your country server pool: &lt;country-code&gt;.pool.ntp.org</p><p>If you have more then one client to configure, you must be running a local ntp server already, then change that one</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>then change your ntp configuration to use your country server pool : .pool.ntp.orgIf you have more then one client to configure , you must be running a local ntp server already , then change that one</tokentext>
<sentencetext>then change your ntp configuration to use your country server pool: .pool.ntp.orgIf you have more then one client to configure, you must be running a local ntp server already, then change that one</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314688</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315712</id>
	<title>Re:At least they have a clear privacy policy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259833020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>They state very bluntly that IP addresses are expunged from the logs after 48 hours, and that no data is shared with Google Accounts or other Google services.</p></div></blockquote><p>And you believe them?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They state very bluntly that IP addresses are expunged from the logs after 48 hours , and that no data is shared with Google Accounts or other Google services.And you believe them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They state very bluntly that IP addresses are expunged from the logs after 48 hours, and that no data is shared with Google Accounts or other Google services.And you believe them?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314390</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30324726</id>
	<title>Data mining is only a secodary motivation</title>
	<author>misnohmer</author>
	<datestamp>1259947020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google's main reason for DNS service is to provide a fast responding DNS. Google has been focusing on fast searches and fast responding web pages (they found that users can in fact tell and care about 0.3 vs. 0.7 second response for web page load). Most ISP's DNS servers are horrible in terms of performance. From personal experience, when I moved a couple of years ago I experienced first had the difference. Initially upon moving I did not have time to connect my entire home network which includes own internal DNS servers - I simply pointed the computers at the recommended Verizon DNS. The web searching experience was horrible compared to what I was used to (other members of the family also noticed), especially considering that the new connection was a 25Mbps/15Mbps fiber to the home FIOS solution. After powering up local DNS servers, web surfing was fast again. So why does google care about speeding up your connection (and with their resources, geographic load distribution and such they really can)? Well, they want everything on the web, they want everything to live in the cloud, hence Chromium OS! They want web apps and surfing to appear as applications do in desktop OS's today. Data mining from DNS queries will happen, statistics will be collected before the IP log disappears after 24hrs, but that's only a secondary benefit to google.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google 's main reason for DNS service is to provide a fast responding DNS .
Google has been focusing on fast searches and fast responding web pages ( they found that users can in fact tell and care about 0.3 vs. 0.7 second response for web page load ) .
Most ISP 's DNS servers are horrible in terms of performance .
From personal experience , when I moved a couple of years ago I experienced first had the difference .
Initially upon moving I did not have time to connect my entire home network which includes own internal DNS servers - I simply pointed the computers at the recommended Verizon DNS .
The web searching experience was horrible compared to what I was used to ( other members of the family also noticed ) , especially considering that the new connection was a 25Mbps/15Mbps fiber to the home FIOS solution .
After powering up local DNS servers , web surfing was fast again .
So why does google care about speeding up your connection ( and with their resources , geographic load distribution and such they really can ) ?
Well , they want everything on the web , they want everything to live in the cloud , hence Chromium OS !
They want web apps and surfing to appear as applications do in desktop OS 's today .
Data mining from DNS queries will happen , statistics will be collected before the IP log disappears after 24hrs , but that 's only a secondary benefit to google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google's main reason for DNS service is to provide a fast responding DNS.
Google has been focusing on fast searches and fast responding web pages (they found that users can in fact tell and care about 0.3 vs. 0.7 second response for web page load).
Most ISP's DNS servers are horrible in terms of performance.
From personal experience, when I moved a couple of years ago I experienced first had the difference.
Initially upon moving I did not have time to connect my entire home network which includes own internal DNS servers - I simply pointed the computers at the recommended Verizon DNS.
The web searching experience was horrible compared to what I was used to (other members of the family also noticed), especially considering that the new connection was a 25Mbps/15Mbps fiber to the home FIOS solution.
After powering up local DNS servers, web surfing was fast again.
So why does google care about speeding up your connection (and with their resources, geographic load distribution and such they really can)?
Well, they want everything on the web, they want everything to live in the cloud, hence Chromium OS!
They want web apps and surfing to appear as applications do in desktop OS's today.
Data mining from DNS queries will happen, statistics will be collected before the IP log disappears after 24hrs, but that's only a secondary benefit to google.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315656</id>
	<title>Re:I guess it is good news...</title>
	<author>afidel</author>
	<datestamp>1259832780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually L3 is turning off public access to those resolvers and has been for a while, sometimes you will not get any response at other times they just degrade response times.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually L3 is turning off public access to those resolvers and has been for a while , sometimes you will not get any response at other times they just degrade response times .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually L3 is turning off public access to those resolvers and has been for a while, sometimes you will not get any response at other times they just degrade response times.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315312</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315174</id>
	<title>Questions?</title>
	<author>Evil Shabazz</author>
	<datestamp>1259830800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From TFA: "but of course there are questions about Google's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit."
<br> <br>
If you can't answer these questions yourself, you're an idiot.  Google is, first and foremost, an ad service seller who base their business on being the best at providing context specified, directed ads.  They are, true, a search engine among many other useful end-user apps too.. but their business is ads.  So in that context, it's pretty damned obvious why they'd like to know every site people visit (and not just every site they visit via searches).  Duh?</htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : " but of course there are questions about Google 's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit .
" If you ca n't answer these questions yourself , you 're an idiot .
Google is , first and foremost , an ad service seller who base their business on being the best at providing context specified , directed ads .
They are , true , a search engine among many other useful end-user apps too.. but their business is ads .
So in that context , it 's pretty damned obvious why they 'd like to know every site people visit ( and not just every site they visit via searches ) .
Duh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA: "but of course there are questions about Google's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit.
"
 
If you can't answer these questions yourself, you're an idiot.
Google is, first and foremost, an ad service seller who base their business on being the best at providing context specified, directed ads.
They are, true, a search engine among many other useful end-user apps too.. but their business is ads.
So in that context, it's pretty damned obvious why they'd like to know every site people visit (and not just every site they visit via searches).
Duh?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30320156</id>
	<title>Re:end game in sight</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1259854500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>For years I've wondered why we still have phone numbers.</i><br>The same reason we still have IPV4, transitioning a huge network to a new identification system is an immense PITA. Furthermore unlike IPV4 addresses phone numbers are variable length and while there is a max length set most countries are some way off it so running out of phone numbers is unlikely to happen anytime soon though some countries may need to have somewhat painful (but still less painful than moving to a non-numeric system) restructurings/lengthenings as thier user count grows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For years I 've wondered why we still have phone numbers.The same reason we still have IPV4 , transitioning a huge network to a new identification system is an immense PITA .
Furthermore unlike IPV4 addresses phone numbers are variable length and while there is a max length set most countries are some way off it so running out of phone numbers is unlikely to happen anytime soon though some countries may need to have somewhat painful ( but still less painful than moving to a non-numeric system ) restructurings/lengthenings as thier user count grows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For years I've wondered why we still have phone numbers.The same reason we still have IPV4, transitioning a huge network to a new identification system is an immense PITA.
Furthermore unlike IPV4 addresses phone numbers are variable length and while there is a max length set most countries are some way off it so running out of phone numbers is unlikely to happen anytime soon though some countries may need to have somewhat painful (but still less painful than moving to a non-numeric system) restructurings/lengthenings as thier user count grows.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314766</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315160</id>
	<title>Re:Don't get me wrong, I love Google.</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1259873940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Very cool, but of course there are questions about Google's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit.</p></div><p>They're after me lucky charms!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Very cool , but of course there are questions about Google 's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit.They 're after me lucky charms !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very cool, but of course there are questions about Google's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit.They're after me lucky charms!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314392</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30323916</id>
	<title>Re:Why not do both?</title>
	<author>MikeBabcock</author>
	<datestamp>1259943240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Caching resolver, not server.  Anyhow, why on earth would you do such a thing?  The only reason to use Google's resolver is to save yourself the effort of configuring your own.  Once you've installed the software, you may as well let it do the work.</p><p>I run <a href="http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html" title="cr.yp.to">dnscache</a> [cr.yp.to] on every PC I have or administer that isn't stuck on Windows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Caching resolver , not server .
Anyhow , why on earth would you do such a thing ?
The only reason to use Google 's resolver is to save yourself the effort of configuring your own .
Once you 've installed the software , you may as well let it do the work.I run dnscache [ cr.yp.to ] on every PC I have or administer that is n't stuck on Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Caching resolver, not server.
Anyhow, why on earth would you do such a thing?
The only reason to use Google's resolver is to save yourself the effort of configuring your own.
Once you've installed the software, you may as well let it do the work.I run dnscache [cr.yp.to] on every PC I have or administer that isn't stuck on Windows.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314696</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30319992</id>
	<title>Re:Don't get me wrong, I love Google.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259853120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, I thought the same thing about President Bush... "He only has our best interests in mind..."... but what about 3 generations of presidents after him... Oh, the constitution will take care of that... oh wait...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , I thought the same thing about President Bush... " He only has our best interests in mind... " ... but what about 3 generations of presidents after him... Oh , the constitution will take care of that... oh wait.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, I thought the same thing about President Bush... "He only has our best interests in mind..."... but what about 3 generations of presidents after him... Oh, the constitution will take care of that... oh wait...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314796</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315814</id>
	<title>Hardly</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259833500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ekde vi ne havas la oftan entilecon al klarig vian mesaon skribitan en neklara mortinta lingvo, Mi estas respond al vi en alia mortinta lingvo.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ekde vi ne havas la oftan entilecon al klarig vian mesaon skribitan en neklara mortinta lingvo , Mi estas respond al vi en alia mortinta lingvo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ekde vi ne havas la oftan entilecon al klarig vian mesaon skribitan en neklara mortinta lingvo, Mi estas respond al vi en alia mortinta lingvo.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314754</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314480</id>
	<title>Re:8.8.8.8/4</title>
	<author>bmearns</author>
	<datestamp>1259871180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not likely. They'll block by IP with something like Privoxy, not DNS lookup.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not likely .
They 'll block by IP with something like Privoxy , not DNS lookup .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not likely.
They'll block by IP with something like Privoxy, not DNS lookup.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315202</id>
	<title>Re:I guess it is good news...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259830860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google's service actually preemptively caches records ahead of their TTL expiring, so while you'll have a bit more traffic versus running your own resolver, I think things will be faster for you because you'll never have a cache miss (and therefore, the wait of the resolver going to the auth dns server for the answer) with Google's Public DNS service.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google 's service actually preemptively caches records ahead of their TTL expiring , so while you 'll have a bit more traffic versus running your own resolver , I think things will be faster for you because you 'll never have a cache miss ( and therefore , the wait of the resolver going to the auth dns server for the answer ) with Google 's Public DNS service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google's service actually preemptively caches records ahead of their TTL expiring, so while you'll have a bit more traffic versus running your own resolver, I think things will be faster for you because you'll never have a cache miss (and therefore, the wait of the resolver going to the auth dns server for the answer) with Google's Public DNS service.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314340</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30319354</id>
	<title>Re:Why all the paranoia over Google?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259848080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's called astroturfing and it has the stink of MS all over it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's called astroturfing and it has the stink of MS all over it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's called astroturfing and it has the stink of MS all over it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314570</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314686</id>
	<title>Re:Don't get me wrong, I love Google.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259872080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, Google knows everything about me... except who I am!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , Google knows everything about me... except who I am !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, Google knows everything about me... except who I am!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314392</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30325836</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259951580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OK, so the same two steps aren't exactly right for OS X. But surely it's pretty straightforward to set up a localhost-only caching DNS there, too?</p><p>Yeah, I fall on the hobbyist side of things. But I can't imagine a reasonably computer-competent person \_not\_ wanting an always-on server of some sort on their home LAN, whether they run Linux, OS X, or NetBSD on it for various other services.</p><p>And once you've got the server running reliably (regardless of the OS) it should not really be a big deal to set up a caching DNS server. At least not on Linux and NetBSD -- never spent any real time with OS X, but I can't imagine it's that hard...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , so the same two steps are n't exactly right for OS X. But surely it 's pretty straightforward to set up a localhost-only caching DNS there , too ? Yeah , I fall on the hobbyist side of things .
But I ca n't imagine a reasonably computer-competent person \ _not \ _ wanting an always-on server of some sort on their home LAN , whether they run Linux , OS X , or NetBSD on it for various other services.And once you 've got the server running reliably ( regardless of the OS ) it should not really be a big deal to set up a caching DNS server .
At least not on Linux and NetBSD -- never spent any real time with OS X , but I ca n't imagine it 's that hard.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, so the same two steps aren't exactly right for OS X. But surely it's pretty straightforward to set up a localhost-only caching DNS there, too?Yeah, I fall on the hobbyist side of things.
But I can't imagine a reasonably computer-competent person \_not\_ wanting an always-on server of some sort on their home LAN, whether they run Linux, OS X, or NetBSD on it for various other services.And once you've got the server running reliably (regardless of the OS) it should not really be a big deal to set up a caching DNS server.
At least not on Linux and NetBSD -- never spent any real time with OS X, but I can't imagine it's that hard...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316218</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30321724</id>
	<title>David Ulevitch, Founder of OpenDNS</title>
	<author>va3atc</author>
	<datestamp>1259960100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>David Ulevitch, Founder of OpenDNS <a href="http://blog.opendns.com/2009/12/03/opendns-google-dns/" title="opendns.com">blogs on the issue.</a> [opendns.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>David Ulevitch , Founder of OpenDNS blogs on the issue .
[ opendns.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>David Ulevitch, Founder of OpenDNS blogs on the issue.
[opendns.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314876</id>
	<title>Re:Why all the paranoia over Google?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259872920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google may be the biggest NSA front ever.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google may be the biggest NSA front ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google may be the biggest NSA front ever.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314570</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30320606</id>
	<title>Re:Why all the paranoia over Google?</title>
	<author>Hasai</author>
	<datestamp>1259858640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What you have to understand, Fished, is that we're dealing with people who think than anyone having the temerity to generate a profit is automatically "bad," conveniently forgetting that, unless they live in North Korea, positive income, or *profit,* is what helps them to save up for a car, do the same for a house, squirrel money away for a child's education, invent for retirement....</p><p>Do any of those things apply to you, twits? Well, then it looks like you're "evil," too....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What you have to understand , Fished , is that we 're dealing with people who think than anyone having the temerity to generate a profit is automatically " bad , " conveniently forgetting that , unless they live in North Korea , positive income , or * profit , * is what helps them to save up for a car , do the same for a house , squirrel money away for a child 's education , invent for retirement....Do any of those things apply to you , twits ?
Well , then it looks like you 're " evil , " too... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What you have to understand, Fished, is that we're dealing with people who think than anyone having the temerity to generate a profit is automatically "bad," conveniently forgetting that, unless they live in North Korea, positive income, or *profit,* is what helps them to save up for a car, do the same for a house, squirrel money away for a child's education, invent for retirement....Do any of those things apply to you, twits?
Well, then it looks like you're "evil," too....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30323684</id>
	<title>Re:8.8.8.8/4</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259942040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm surprised they didn't go with 4.6.6.4 (Spells GOOG on a phone).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm surprised they did n't go with 4.6.6.4 ( Spells GOOG on a phone ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm surprised they didn't go with 4.6.6.4 (Spells GOOG on a phone).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314524</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314886</id>
	<title>Support for RFC 4398?</title>
	<author>Hasai</author>
	<datestamp>1259872980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't suppose their DNS supports RFC 4398: Storing Certificates in the Domain Name System?</p><p>I'd would *really* like to see Little Billy's stranglehold on SSL broken....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't suppose their DNS supports RFC 4398 : Storing Certificates in the Domain Name System ? I 'd would * really * like to see Little Billy 's stranglehold on SSL broken... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't suppose their DNS supports RFC 4398: Storing Certificates in the Domain Name System?I'd would *really* like to see Little Billy's stranglehold on SSL broken....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315684</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>shog9</author>
	<datestamp>1259832900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The advertising?</p><p>Don't get me wrong, OpenDNS is a nice enough service... But opting out of the advertising is a PitA.</p><p>Also, Google's nameserver addresses are easier to remember. Can you remember the number 8? Good, you can now use Google's DNS anywhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The advertising ? Do n't get me wrong , OpenDNS is a nice enough service... But opting out of the advertising is a PitA.Also , Google 's nameserver addresses are easier to remember .
Can you remember the number 8 ?
Good , you can now use Google 's DNS anywhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The advertising?Don't get me wrong, OpenDNS is a nice enough service... But opting out of the advertising is a PitA.Also, Google's nameserver addresses are easier to remember.
Can you remember the number 8?
Good, you can now use Google's DNS anywhere.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315100</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30317840</id>
	<title>Re:Why all the paranoia over Google?</title>
	<author>lennier</author>
	<datestamp>1259840400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"But<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... there is a level of suspicion and fear directed at Google that just seems extreme. Has Google actually done something "Evil" that I missed?"</p><p>They might have. Would we be able to know, at this point, if they did? Do we still have third parties able to compete with them and provide checks and balances over the information they feed us?</p><p>The problem with Google (and the other big players, such as the social networks) is that they are increasingly *centralising* control over the data we see. In the 1990s, the Net was a very decentralised place. You'd get an IP address, DNS lookup and SMTP from your ISP,  a domain name from a domain registrar, web hosting somewhere else, webmail from a fourth place, search from a fifth place... and all of those would be different from your hardware and your operating system... and all this decentralisation kept the big corps mostly honest. There were people like AOL and Microsoft trying for lock-in and vertical integration, yes. Which is why Google initially seemed like a shining knight, a different force. And them funding Mozilla gave us a breathing space from the Microsoft lock-in empire.</p><p>But now Google themselves are becoming the Microsoft of the Web. Not in terms of abusive practices - necessarily. But in terms of edging towards single-provider monopoly power, which gives the *potential* for abusive practices on a huge scale.</p><p>Remember Sandra Bullock, The Net, mid 1990s? Back then it seemed total science fiction because it was really silly to think that any one organisation could get censorship control over the fractious, decentralised Net of that era. It's not so funny now. You could now have:</p><p>* a Google Android phone or a Google ChromeOS device<br>* running Google Chrome<br>* getting DNS from Google DNS<br>* using Gmail for mail<br>* using Google Wave for social networking<br>* using Google Search for all searching<br>* getting their news from Google News<br>* buying their books from Google Books<br>* doing academic research on Google Scholar and patent searches on Google Patents<br>* sharing documents on Google Docs<br>* viewing Usenet through Google Groups</p><p>and all of that information is logged, analysed, data-mined and cross-checked by a single organisation answerable to a very few people. And potentially modified in transit.</p><p>Fortunately it's still possible to compare most of what Google tells us with the source websites, so they can't easily change the information we receive. Yet. But they certainly can get a very close-up view of exactly who we are and what lines of knowledge we're interested in, and flick this on to whatever organisation - private, criminal, government - asks nicely enough.</p><p>Centralisation is always scary, because you just. don't. KNOW. what is being done with that data, either coming or going.</p><p>Google's best weapon against paranoia is openness... but what if we end up seeing just the *appearance* of openness and not openness itself?</p><p>For that reason I hope Google never becomes the only information service we use on the Web, and I'm even unhappy with the way we all rely on its search results to such a huge extent. It's a potential choke point in the Net, a single point of failure. Right now it seems okay... but.... loss of alternatives is never a safe place to be.  Why has open source search never taken off?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" But ... there is a level of suspicion and fear directed at Google that just seems extreme .
Has Google actually done something " Evil " that I missed ?
" They might have .
Would we be able to know , at this point , if they did ?
Do we still have third parties able to compete with them and provide checks and balances over the information they feed us ? The problem with Google ( and the other big players , such as the social networks ) is that they are increasingly * centralising * control over the data we see .
In the 1990s , the Net was a very decentralised place .
You 'd get an IP address , DNS lookup and SMTP from your ISP , a domain name from a domain registrar , web hosting somewhere else , webmail from a fourth place , search from a fifth place... and all of those would be different from your hardware and your operating system... and all this decentralisation kept the big corps mostly honest .
There were people like AOL and Microsoft trying for lock-in and vertical integration , yes .
Which is why Google initially seemed like a shining knight , a different force .
And them funding Mozilla gave us a breathing space from the Microsoft lock-in empire.But now Google themselves are becoming the Microsoft of the Web .
Not in terms of abusive practices - necessarily .
But in terms of edging towards single-provider monopoly power , which gives the * potential * for abusive practices on a huge scale.Remember Sandra Bullock , The Net , mid 1990s ?
Back then it seemed total science fiction because it was really silly to think that any one organisation could get censorship control over the fractious , decentralised Net of that era .
It 's not so funny now .
You could now have : * a Google Android phone or a Google ChromeOS device * running Google Chrome * getting DNS from Google DNS * using Gmail for mail * using Google Wave for social networking * using Google Search for all searching * getting their news from Google News * buying their books from Google Books * doing academic research on Google Scholar and patent searches on Google Patents * sharing documents on Google Docs * viewing Usenet through Google Groupsand all of that information is logged , analysed , data-mined and cross-checked by a single organisation answerable to a very few people .
And potentially modified in transit.Fortunately it 's still possible to compare most of what Google tells us with the source websites , so they ca n't easily change the information we receive .
Yet. But they certainly can get a very close-up view of exactly who we are and what lines of knowledge we 're interested in , and flick this on to whatever organisation - private , criminal , government - asks nicely enough.Centralisation is always scary , because you just .
do n't. KNOW .
what is being done with that data , either coming or going.Google 's best weapon against paranoia is openness... but what if we end up seeing just the * appearance * of openness and not openness itself ? For that reason I hope Google never becomes the only information service we use on the Web , and I 'm even unhappy with the way we all rely on its search results to such a huge extent .
It 's a potential choke point in the Net , a single point of failure .
Right now it seems okay... but.... loss of alternatives is never a safe place to be .
Why has open source search never taken off ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"But ... there is a level of suspicion and fear directed at Google that just seems extreme.
Has Google actually done something "Evil" that I missed?
"They might have.
Would we be able to know, at this point, if they did?
Do we still have third parties able to compete with them and provide checks and balances over the information they feed us?The problem with Google (and the other big players, such as the social networks) is that they are increasingly *centralising* control over the data we see.
In the 1990s, the Net was a very decentralised place.
You'd get an IP address, DNS lookup and SMTP from your ISP,  a domain name from a domain registrar, web hosting somewhere else, webmail from a fourth place, search from a fifth place... and all of those would be different from your hardware and your operating system... and all this decentralisation kept the big corps mostly honest.
There were people like AOL and Microsoft trying for lock-in and vertical integration, yes.
Which is why Google initially seemed like a shining knight, a different force.
And them funding Mozilla gave us a breathing space from the Microsoft lock-in empire.But now Google themselves are becoming the Microsoft of the Web.
Not in terms of abusive practices - necessarily.
But in terms of edging towards single-provider monopoly power, which gives the *potential* for abusive practices on a huge scale.Remember Sandra Bullock, The Net, mid 1990s?
Back then it seemed total science fiction because it was really silly to think that any one organisation could get censorship control over the fractious, decentralised Net of that era.
It's not so funny now.
You could now have:* a Google Android phone or a Google ChromeOS device* running Google Chrome* getting DNS from Google DNS* using Gmail for mail* using Google Wave for social networking* using Google Search for all searching* getting their news from Google News* buying their books from Google Books* doing academic research on Google Scholar and patent searches on Google Patents* sharing documents on Google Docs* viewing Usenet through Google Groupsand all of that information is logged, analysed, data-mined and cross-checked by a single organisation answerable to a very few people.
And potentially modified in transit.Fortunately it's still possible to compare most of what Google tells us with the source websites, so they can't easily change the information we receive.
Yet. But they certainly can get a very close-up view of exactly who we are and what lines of knowledge we're interested in, and flick this on to whatever organisation - private, criminal, government - asks nicely enough.Centralisation is always scary, because you just.
don't. KNOW.
what is being done with that data, either coming or going.Google's best weapon against paranoia is openness... but what if we end up seeing just the *appearance* of openness and not openness itself?For that reason I hope Google never becomes the only information service we use on the Web, and I'm even unhappy with the way we all rely on its search results to such a huge extent.
It's a potential choke point in the Net, a single point of failure.
Right now it seems okay... but.... loss of alternatives is never a safe place to be.
Why has open source search never taken off?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314816</id>
	<title>Meet the new Borg...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259872680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>...same as the old Borg?</htmltext>
<tokenext>...same as the old Borg ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...same as the old Borg?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315670</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>rhathar</author>
	<datestamp>1259832840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>OpenDNS doesn't follow the DNS standards, whereas Google's DNS does. From Wikipedia:<p><div class="quote"><p>While the OpenDNS name resolution service is free, people have complained about how the service handles failed requests. If a domain cannot be found, the service redirects you to a search page with search results and advertising provided by Yahoo!. A DNS user can switch this off via the OpenDNS Control Panel but will lose content filtering ability. This behavior is similar to that of many large ISP's who also redirect failed requests to their own servers containing advertising. [12]
</p><p>
In 2007, David Ulevitch explained that in response to Dell installing "Browser Address Error Redirector" software on their PCs, OpenDNS started resolving requests to Google.com. Some of the traffic is handled by OpenDNS typo-correcting service which corrects mistyped addresses and redirects keyword addresses to OpenDNS's search page, while the rest is transparently passed through to the intended recipient.[13]
</p><p>
Also, a user's search request from the address bar of a browser that is configured to use the Google search engine (with a certain parameter configured) may be covertly redirected to a server owned by OpenDNS without the user's consent (but within the OpenDNS Terms of Service).[14] Users can disable this behavior by logging in to their OpenDNS account and unchecking "OpenDNS proxy" option.[15] Additionally, Mozilla users can fix this problem by installing an extension[16] or by simply changing or removing the navclient sourceid from their keyword search URLs.
</p><p>
This redirection breaks some non-web applications which rely on getting an NXDOMAIN for non-existent domains, such as e-mail spam filtering, or VPN access where the private network's nameservers are consulted only when the public ones fail to resolve.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>OpenDNS does n't follow the DNS standards , whereas Google 's DNS does .
From Wikipedia : While the OpenDNS name resolution service is free , people have complained about how the service handles failed requests .
If a domain can not be found , the service redirects you to a search page with search results and advertising provided by Yahoo ! .
A DNS user can switch this off via the OpenDNS Control Panel but will lose content filtering ability .
This behavior is similar to that of many large ISP 's who also redirect failed requests to their own servers containing advertising .
[ 12 ] In 2007 , David Ulevitch explained that in response to Dell installing " Browser Address Error Redirector " software on their PCs , OpenDNS started resolving requests to Google.com .
Some of the traffic is handled by OpenDNS typo-correcting service which corrects mistyped addresses and redirects keyword addresses to OpenDNS 's search page , while the rest is transparently passed through to the intended recipient .
[ 13 ] Also , a user 's search request from the address bar of a browser that is configured to use the Google search engine ( with a certain parameter configured ) may be covertly redirected to a server owned by OpenDNS without the user 's consent ( but within the OpenDNS Terms of Service ) .
[ 14 ] Users can disable this behavior by logging in to their OpenDNS account and unchecking " OpenDNS proxy " option .
[ 15 ] Additionally , Mozilla users can fix this problem by installing an extension [ 16 ] or by simply changing or removing the navclient sourceid from their keyword search URLs .
This redirection breaks some non-web applications which rely on getting an NXDOMAIN for non-existent domains , such as e-mail spam filtering , or VPN access where the private network 's nameservers are consulted only when the public ones fail to resolve .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OpenDNS doesn't follow the DNS standards, whereas Google's DNS does.
From Wikipedia:While the OpenDNS name resolution service is free, people have complained about how the service handles failed requests.
If a domain cannot be found, the service redirects you to a search page with search results and advertising provided by Yahoo!.
A DNS user can switch this off via the OpenDNS Control Panel but will lose content filtering ability.
This behavior is similar to that of many large ISP's who also redirect failed requests to their own servers containing advertising.
[12]

In 2007, David Ulevitch explained that in response to Dell installing "Browser Address Error Redirector" software on their PCs, OpenDNS started resolving requests to Google.com.
Some of the traffic is handled by OpenDNS typo-correcting service which corrects mistyped addresses and redirects keyword addresses to OpenDNS's search page, while the rest is transparently passed through to the intended recipient.
[13]

Also, a user's search request from the address bar of a browser that is configured to use the Google search engine (with a certain parameter configured) may be covertly redirected to a server owned by OpenDNS without the user's consent (but within the OpenDNS Terms of Service).
[14] Users can disable this behavior by logging in to their OpenDNS account and unchecking "OpenDNS proxy" option.
[15] Additionally, Mozilla users can fix this problem by installing an extension[16] or by simply changing or removing the navclient sourceid from their keyword search URLs.
This redirection breaks some non-web applications which rely on getting an NXDOMAIN for non-existent domains, such as e-mail spam filtering, or VPN access where the private network's nameservers are consulted only when the public ones fail to resolve.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314896</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>neoform</author>
	<datestamp>1259872980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So all a technical person needs is knowhow? If you set up your own dns server, it still has to query another server for it's info..</htmltext>
<tokenext>So all a technical person needs is knowhow ?
If you set up your own dns server , it still has to query another server for it 's info. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So all a technical person needs is knowhow?
If you set up your own dns server, it still has to query another server for it's info..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314624</id>
	<title>Slooooowww...</title>
	<author>flyingfsck</author>
	<datestamp>1259871840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I get 48 to 88ms look-up times.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I get 48 to 88ms look-up times .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get 48 to 88ms look-up times.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315786</id>
	<title>Re:At least they have a clear privacy policy</title>
	<author>TheModelEskimo</author>
	<datestamp>1259833380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Uh, actually it's their service and the ToS changes anytime they want it to. This is also known as a phased takeover, in case you haven't noticed other corporations *starting out* with a beautifully ethical ToS before.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh , actually it 's their service and the ToS changes anytime they want it to .
This is also known as a phased takeover , in case you have n't noticed other corporations * starting out * with a beautifully ethical ToS before .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh, actually it's their service and the ToS changes anytime they want it to.
This is also known as a phased takeover, in case you haven't noticed other corporations *starting out* with a beautifully ethical ToS before.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30317726</id>
	<title>faster</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259839920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Videotron ( in Canada, Quebec) was so slow - this is MUCH faster.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Videotron ( in Canada , Quebec ) was so slow - this is MUCH faster .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Videotron ( in Canada, Quebec) was so slow - this is MUCH faster.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315704</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Buelldozer</author>
	<datestamp>1259832960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do it because I don't want to use the root DNS for forwarding.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do it because I do n't want to use the root DNS for forwarding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do it because I don't want to use the root DNS for forwarding.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30319090</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Zadaz</author>
	<datestamp>1259846580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>If you're technical enough and care about such, you're way better off setting up your own recursive DNS server.</i></p><p>Yeah, because going into your network settings and typing two IP addresses is certainly similar to setting up and administering a DNS cache.</p><p>No wonder everyone hates their sysadmins.  They try to make everything sound complicated.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're technical enough and care about such , you 're way better off setting up your own recursive DNS server.Yeah , because going into your network settings and typing two IP addresses is certainly similar to setting up and administering a DNS cache.No wonder everyone hates their sysadmins .
They try to make everything sound complicated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're technical enough and care about such, you're way better off setting up your own recursive DNS server.Yeah, because going into your network settings and typing two IP addresses is certainly similar to setting up and administering a DNS cache.No wonder everyone hates their sysadmins.
They try to make everything sound complicated.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30321686</id>
	<title>Re:I guess it is good news...</title>
	<author>Fred\_A</author>
	<datestamp>1259959500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>4.2.2.2 and their ilk are free and non-redirecting. You can use 4.2.2.1  4.2.2.2  4.2.2.3  4.2.2.4  4.2.2.5 or 4.2.2.6</p><p>They are run by L-3 and sitting on major backbones, and the ip addresses are pooled, so that you will likely get a server that is geographically near you when you use one of those addresses.</p></div><p>But with Google you don't have to use those complicated numbers any more. It's all much more simple. All you have to use is<br>dns.google.com<br>Much simpler to remember.</p><p>If it doesn't work, it's because it's still in beta. Just try again.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>4.2.2.2 and their ilk are free and non-redirecting .
You can use 4.2.2.1 4.2.2.2 4.2.2.3 4.2.2.4 4.2.2.5 or 4.2.2.6They are run by L-3 and sitting on major backbones , and the ip addresses are pooled , so that you will likely get a server that is geographically near you when you use one of those addresses.But with Google you do n't have to use those complicated numbers any more .
It 's all much more simple .
All you have to use isdns.google.comMuch simpler to remember.If it does n't work , it 's because it 's still in beta .
Just try again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>4.2.2.2 and their ilk are free and non-redirecting.
You can use 4.2.2.1  4.2.2.2  4.2.2.3  4.2.2.4  4.2.2.5 or 4.2.2.6They are run by L-3 and sitting on major backbones, and the ip addresses are pooled, so that you will likely get a server that is geographically near you when you use one of those addresses.But with Google you don't have to use those complicated numbers any more.
It's all much more simple.
All you have to use isdns.google.comMuch simpler to remember.If it doesn't work, it's because it's still in beta.
Just try again.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315312</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315332</id>
	<title>Re:8.8.8.8/4</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259831400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"8.8.8.8/4"</p><p>That's a lot of DNS servers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" 8.8.8.8/4 " That 's a lot of DNS servers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"8.8.8.8/4"That's a lot of DNS servers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30329116</id>
	<title>Re:8.8.8.8/4</title>
	<author>mcdonald.or</author>
	<datestamp>1259922180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most places that have decent internet security do not allow the users to modify this type of setting on their PCs.  Of those that do, they simply capture every request and retranslate them.  Excepting of course for those that just pay lip service to the concept of security.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most places that have decent internet security do not allow the users to modify this type of setting on their PCs .
Of those that do , they simply capture every request and retranslate them .
Excepting of course for those that just pay lip service to the concept of security .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most places that have decent internet security do not allow the users to modify this type of setting on their PCs.
Of those that do, they simply capture every request and retranslate them.
Excepting of course for those that just pay lip service to the concept of security.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316944</id>
	<title>OpenDNS is faster</title>
	<author>ksemlerK</author>
	<datestamp>1259837280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Open DNS is still faster then Google.<p><div class="quote"><p>C:\Users\*****&gt;ping -a 8.8.8.8
<br> <br>
Pinging google-public-dns-a.google.com [8.8.8.8] with 32 bytes of data:<br>
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=82ms TTL=244<br>
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=79ms TTL=244<br>
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=80ms TTL=244<br>
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=81ms TTL=244<br>
<br> <br>
Ping statistics for 8.8.8.8:<br>
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0\% loss),<br>
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:<br>
    Minimum = 79ms, Maximum = 82ms, Average = 80ms
<br> <br>
C:\Users\*****&gt;ping -a 208.67.222.222<br> <br>
<br> <br>
Pinging resolver1.opendns.com [208.67.222.222] with 32 bytes of data:<br>
Reply from 208.67.222.222: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=53<br>
Reply from 208.67.222.222: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=53<br>
Reply from 208.67.222.222: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=53<br>
Reply from 208.67.222.222: bytes=32 time=61ms TTL=53<br>
<br> <br>
Ping statistics for 208.67.222.222:<br>
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0\% loss),<br>
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:<br>
    Minimum = 48ms, Maximum = 61ms, Average = 52ms</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Open DNS is still faster then Google.C : \ Users \ * * * * * &gt; ping -a 8.8.8.8 Pinging google-public-dns-a.google.com [ 8.8.8.8 ] with 32 bytes of data : Reply from 8.8.8.8 : bytes = 32 time = 82ms TTL = 244 Reply from 8.8.8.8 : bytes = 32 time = 79ms TTL = 244 Reply from 8.8.8.8 : bytes = 32 time = 80ms TTL = 244 Reply from 8.8.8.8 : bytes = 32 time = 81ms TTL = 244 Ping statistics for 8.8.8.8 : Packets : Sent = 4 , Received = 4 , Lost = 0 ( 0 \ % loss ) , Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds : Minimum = 79ms , Maximum = 82ms , Average = 80ms C : \ Users \ * * * * * &gt; ping -a 208.67.222.222 Pinging resolver1.opendns.com [ 208.67.222.222 ] with 32 bytes of data : Reply from 208.67.222.222 : bytes = 32 time = 51ms TTL = 53 Reply from 208.67.222.222 : bytes = 32 time = 48ms TTL = 53 Reply from 208.67.222.222 : bytes = 32 time = 49ms TTL = 53 Reply from 208.67.222.222 : bytes = 32 time = 61ms TTL = 53 Ping statistics for 208.67.222.222 : Packets : Sent = 4 , Received = 4 , Lost = 0 ( 0 \ % loss ) , Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds : Minimum = 48ms , Maximum = 61ms , Average = 52ms</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Open DNS is still faster then Google.C:\Users\*****&gt;ping -a 8.8.8.8
 
Pinging google-public-dns-a.google.com [8.8.8.8] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=82ms TTL=244
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=79ms TTL=244
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=80ms TTL=244
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=81ms TTL=244
 
Ping statistics for 8.8.8.8:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0\% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 79ms, Maximum = 82ms, Average = 80ms
 
C:\Users\*****&gt;ping -a 208.67.222.222 
 
Pinging resolver1.opendns.com [208.67.222.222] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 208.67.222.222: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=53
Reply from 208.67.222.222: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=53
Reply from 208.67.222.222: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=53
Reply from 208.67.222.222: bytes=32 time=61ms TTL=53
 
Ping statistics for 208.67.222.222:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0\% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 48ms, Maximum = 61ms, Average = 52ms
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314994</id>
	<title>of course there are questions about Google's true</title>
	<author>sofar</author>
	<datestamp>1259873400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can think of one: it allows them to see which websites are popular?</p><p>Or another one: it allows them to match &amp; check advertisement click throughs?</p><p>there's a huge source of information in DNS lookups. The CIA and NSA wants you to use *their* DNS server too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can think of one : it allows them to see which websites are popular ? Or another one : it allows them to match &amp; check advertisement click throughs ? there 's a huge source of information in DNS lookups .
The CIA and NSA wants you to use * their * DNS server too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can think of one: it allows them to see which websites are popular?Or another one: it allows them to match &amp; check advertisement click throughs?there's a huge source of information in DNS lookups.
The CIA and NSA wants you to use *their* DNS server too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314736</id>
	<title>and there's the other motive for Google.</title>
	<author>FooAtWFU</author>
	<datestamp>1259872320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
If you're on $garbage\_DNS and you're served an advertisement/search page instead of NXDOMAIN, you (or your browser's auto-search) won't search Google. For that matter, just <i>having</i> something like this around will discourage $garbage\_DNS. </p><p>Google cares about the Internet. It's where they make their money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're on $ garbage \ _DNS and you 're served an advertisement/search page instead of NXDOMAIN , you ( or your browser 's auto-search ) wo n't search Google .
For that matter , just having something like this around will discourage $ garbage \ _DNS .
Google cares about the Internet .
It 's where they make their money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
If you're on $garbage\_DNS and you're served an advertisement/search page instead of NXDOMAIN, you (or your browser's auto-search) won't search Google.
For that matter, just having something like this around will discourage $garbage\_DNS.
Google cares about the Internet.
It's where they make their money.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314400</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30318100</id>
	<title>Re:OpenDNS and DynDNS offer more features</title>
	<author>X.25</author>
	<datestamp>1259841660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i><br>The Google is not providing malware &amp; phishing blocks and parental/SFW controls.<br>DynDNS's redirects are honest searches, not ad-choked.<br><a href="https://www.dyndns.com/services/dynguide/" title="dyndns.com">https://www.dyndns.com/services/dynguide/</a> [dyndns.com]<br><a href="http://www.opendns.com/" title="opendns.com">http://www.opendns.com/</a> [opendns.com]<br></i></p><p>Setup OpenDNS servers in resolv.conf.</p><p>Go into Firefox.</p><p>Type something in location (URL) bar.</p><p>What is that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Google is not providing malware &amp; phishing blocks and parental/SFW controls.DynDNS 's redirects are honest searches , not ad-choked.https : //www.dyndns.com/services/dynguide/ [ dyndns.com ] http : //www.opendns.com/ [ opendns.com ] Setup OpenDNS servers in resolv.conf.Go into Firefox.Type something in location ( URL ) bar.What is that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Google is not providing malware &amp; phishing blocks and parental/SFW controls.DynDNS's redirects are honest searches, not ad-choked.https://www.dyndns.com/services/dynguide/ [dyndns.com]http://www.opendns.com/ [opendns.com]Setup OpenDNS servers in resolv.conf.Go into Firefox.Type something in location (URL) bar.What is that?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314692</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315264</id>
	<title>Re:Latency: most ISPs should win hands down</title>
	<author>svtdragon</author>
	<datestamp>1259831100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think that while the latency is certainly an issue, I wonder how much it's offset by their asynchronous caching w/theoretically fewer cache misses.  Do you know what a typical (this is the internet, so "average" is a bad word to use) increase in the time it takes to get a page when it's hit vs. missed in the cache is?  I'd be interested to see how this compares to the latency issue.

<br> <br>Caching is, after all, the whole idea.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that while the latency is certainly an issue , I wonder how much it 's offset by their asynchronous caching w/theoretically fewer cache misses .
Do you know what a typical ( this is the internet , so " average " is a bad word to use ) increase in the time it takes to get a page when it 's hit vs. missed in the cache is ?
I 'd be interested to see how this compares to the latency issue .
Caching is , after all , the whole idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that while the latency is certainly an issue, I wonder how much it's offset by their asynchronous caching w/theoretically fewer cache misses.
Do you know what a typical (this is the internet, so "average" is a bad word to use) increase in the time it takes to get a page when it's hit vs. missed in the cache is?
I'd be interested to see how this compares to the latency issue.
Caching is, after all, the whole idea.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314400</id>
	<title>Better than Rogers</title>
	<author>56</author>
	<datestamp>1259870820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd definitely consider switching to this. Better to have Google know all of the sites I visit than to be constantly redirected to Rogers advertising when I mistype a URL.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd definitely consider switching to this .
Better to have Google know all of the sites I visit than to be constantly redirected to Rogers advertising when I mistype a URL .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd definitely consider switching to this.
Better to have Google know all of the sites I visit than to be constantly redirected to Rogers advertising when I mistype a URL.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30320924</id>
	<title>Configurating Google DNS</title>
	<author>kokoko1</author>
	<datestamp>1259862300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html</a> [google.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html [google.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314428</id>
	<title>Yet another privacy risking tool I won't mind usin</title>
	<author>Zerth</author>
	<datestamp>1259870940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But I doubt it'll be as memorable as 4.2.2.2 for those emergency DNS outages.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But I doubt it 'll be as memorable as 4.2.2.2 for those emergency DNS outages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I doubt it'll be as memorable as 4.2.2.2 for those emergency DNS outages.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314922</id>
	<title>Re:8.8.8.8/4</title>
	<author>dave562</author>
	<datestamp>1259873100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone running Windows Server as their internal DNS server is probably forwarding DNS requests to an external name server.  The workstation DNS settings are most likely controlled with DHCP, and if the admin has half a brain (I know, that's a big assumption), the users don't have rights to change the network settings.</p><p>Most internet security applications are usually proxy servers, or something like a Websense box.  Those filter all traffic regardless of where the name resolution takes place.  In fact, Websense can be configured to block DNS requests to non-approved / external servers (as can any firewall, etc).</p><p>Do your network admins a favor and use your work computer for work.  Don't try to get around their access controls.  Most of the time they'd love to give you free access to the internet, but the reality is that they are responsible for keeping Windows boxes secure.  That isn't an easy job.  What you might perceive as network admin Nazi behaviors is really just them protecting you from yourself... or your co-workers from themselves, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone running Windows Server as their internal DNS server is probably forwarding DNS requests to an external name server .
The workstation DNS settings are most likely controlled with DHCP , and if the admin has half a brain ( I know , that 's a big assumption ) , the users do n't have rights to change the network settings.Most internet security applications are usually proxy servers , or something like a Websense box .
Those filter all traffic regardless of where the name resolution takes place .
In fact , Websense can be configured to block DNS requests to non-approved / external servers ( as can any firewall , etc ) .Do your network admins a favor and use your work computer for work .
Do n't try to get around their access controls .
Most of the time they 'd love to give you free access to the internet , but the reality is that they are responsible for keeping Windows boxes secure .
That is n't an easy job .
What you might perceive as network admin Nazi behaviors is really just them protecting you from yourself... or your co-workers from themselves , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone running Windows Server as their internal DNS server is probably forwarding DNS requests to an external name server.
The workstation DNS settings are most likely controlled with DHCP, and if the admin has half a brain (I know, that's a big assumption), the users don't have rights to change the network settings.Most internet security applications are usually proxy servers, or something like a Websense box.
Those filter all traffic regardless of where the name resolution takes place.
In fact, Websense can be configured to block DNS requests to non-approved / external servers (as can any firewall, etc).Do your network admins a favor and use your work computer for work.
Don't try to get around their access controls.
Most of the time they'd love to give you free access to the internet, but the reality is that they are responsible for keeping Windows boxes secure.
That isn't an easy job.
What you might perceive as network admin Nazi behaviors is really just them protecting you from yourself... or your co-workers from themselves, etc.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30322334</id>
	<title>Re:Latency: most ISPs should win hands down</title>
	<author>sydneyfong</author>
	<datestamp>1259928060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They have different servers distributed around the globe.</p><p>I'm in Hong Kong, and pings to 8.8.8.8 have ~ 40ms latency, which implies it's geographically close. Any connection to USA will require latency of 100+ms, due to speed of light limits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They have different servers distributed around the globe.I 'm in Hong Kong , and pings to 8.8.8.8 have ~ 40ms latency , which implies it 's geographically close .
Any connection to USA will require latency of 100 + ms , due to speed of light limits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They have different servers distributed around the globe.I'm in Hong Kong, and pings to 8.8.8.8 have ~ 40ms latency, which implies it's geographically close.
Any connection to USA will require latency of 100+ms, due to speed of light limits.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316734</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314854</id>
	<title>ping time still bad....</title>
	<author>datapharmer</author>
	<datestamp>1259872860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well the ping times are still almost twice what they are for the old GTE/Verizon 4.2.2.1 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.3</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well the ping times are still almost twice what they are for the old GTE/Verizon 4.2.2.1 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.3</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well the ping times are still almost twice what they are for the old GTE/Verizon 4.2.2.1 4.2.2.2 and 4.2.2.3</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316102</id>
	<title>Google slashes competition</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259834580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Business logic.</p><p>Apart from data mining, Google sees the opportunity to decrease the ad revenue from any ISP that actually uses DNS redirects. They don't like competition in the advertisement market and they'll do anything to demotivate other companies to enter the market.</p><p>C.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Business logic.Apart from data mining , Google sees the opportunity to decrease the ad revenue from any ISP that actually uses DNS redirects .
They do n't like competition in the advertisement market and they 'll do anything to demotivate other companies to enter the market.C .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Business logic.Apart from data mining, Google sees the opportunity to decrease the ad revenue from any ISP that actually uses DNS redirects.
They don't like competition in the advertisement market and they'll do anything to demotivate other companies to enter the market.C.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316090</id>
	<title>Go for it...</title>
	<author>Joce640k</author>
	<datestamp>1259834580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just tried it and it's *WAY* faster than my ISP - web pages start loading a couple of seconds sooner than before.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just tried it and it 's * WAY * faster than my ISP - web pages start loading a couple of seconds sooner than before .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just tried it and it's *WAY* faster than my ISP - web pages start loading a couple of seconds sooner than before.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314400</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316048</id>
	<title>Here's a good reason...</title>
	<author>Joce640k</author>
	<datestamp>1259834400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just tried it and it's *WAY* faster than my ISP - simple web pages now appear *instantly*.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just tried it and it 's * WAY * faster than my ISP - simple web pages now appear * instantly * .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just tried it and it's *WAY* faster than my ISP - simple web pages now appear *instantly*.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314754</id>
	<title>Re:At least they have a clear privacy policy</title>
	<author>Ziekheid</author>
	<datestamp>1259872380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Quis custodiet ipsos custodes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314390</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315194</id>
	<title>Re:Latency: most ISPs should win hands down</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259830800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Discovering that the resolved target is already slashdotted... priceless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Discovering that the resolved target is already slashdotted... priceless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Discovering that the resolved target is already slashdotted... priceless.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30319152</id>
	<title>Re:Latency: most ISPs should win hands down</title>
	<author>omnichad</author>
	<datestamp>1259846880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My guess is FTL cable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My guess is FTL cable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My guess is FTL cable.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316110</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315518</id>
	<title>Re:Don't get me wrong, I love Google.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259832180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I bet they know you typed this comment wearing only your underwear and a t-shirt with a cheeseburger stain on it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet they know you typed this comment wearing only your underwear and a t-shirt with a cheeseburger stain on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet they know you typed this comment wearing only your underwear and a t-shirt with a cheeseburger stain on it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314686</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314864</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>oh\_my\_080980980</author>
	<datestamp>1259872860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"At least with your own ISP you can reasonably think that theres no datamining going"
<br> <br>
W-h-y....seriously if you think a business is not going to collect all the information they can about their customers, you are quite deluded.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" At least with your own ISP you can reasonably think that theres no datamining going " W-h-y....seriously if you think a business is not going to collect all the information they can about their customers , you are quite deluded .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"At least with your own ISP you can reasonably think that theres no datamining going"
 
W-h-y....seriously if you think a business is not going to collect all the information they can about their customers, you are quite deluded.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314582</id>
	<title>The motivation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259871600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OpenDNS is hurting them for some reason.</p><p>From que FAQ: "Google Public DNS never blocks, filters, or redirects users, unlike some open resolvers and ISPs"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OpenDNS is hurting them for some reason.From que FAQ : " Google Public DNS never blocks , filters , or redirects users , unlike some open resolvers and ISPs "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OpenDNS is hurting them for some reason.From que FAQ: "Google Public DNS never blocks, filters, or redirects users, unlike some open resolvers and ISPs"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316192</id>
	<title>Re:At least they have a clear privacy policy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259834940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Based on this information, I'm officially switching. The first time I came across an advertisement rather than a failed DNS lookup I was not happy. It's incredibly annoying.</p></div><p>And it's incredibly bad practice.  It's in the very best interests of Google that people still enjoy searching for stuff on the net.  Their own public DNS redirector is a very logical step and a very good move on their part, and I applaud their smarts.  I absolutely hate it when good, working engineering standards are subverted by commercial crap.  </p><p>Awesome IP address, too (ping -a 8.8.8.8)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Based on this information , I 'm officially switching .
The first time I came across an advertisement rather than a failed DNS lookup I was not happy .
It 's incredibly annoying.And it 's incredibly bad practice .
It 's in the very best interests of Google that people still enjoy searching for stuff on the net .
Their own public DNS redirector is a very logical step and a very good move on their part , and I applaud their smarts .
I absolutely hate it when good , working engineering standards are subverted by commercial crap .
Awesome IP address , too ( ping -a 8.8.8.8 )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Based on this information, I'm officially switching.
The first time I came across an advertisement rather than a failed DNS lookup I was not happy.
It's incredibly annoying.And it's incredibly bad practice.
It's in the very best interests of Google that people still enjoy searching for stuff on the net.
Their own public DNS redirector is a very logical step and a very good move on their part, and I applaud their smarts.
I absolutely hate it when good, working engineering standards are subverted by commercial crap.
Awesome IP address, too (ping -a 8.8.8.8)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315206</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314696</id>
	<title>Why not do both?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259872140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Set up your own DNS server and point it at google's.</p><p>Then you can take advantage of your cache and their cache.</p><p>google could do us a great service by also making it available on some other port, that way we can get around the ISP interception of DNS requests.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Set up your own DNS server and point it at google 's.Then you can take advantage of your cache and their cache.google could do us a great service by also making it available on some other port , that way we can get around the ISP interception of DNS requests .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Set up your own DNS server and point it at google's.Then you can take advantage of your cache and their cache.google could do us a great service by also making it available on some other port, that way we can get around the ISP interception of DNS requests.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314340</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314774</id>
	<title>Re:What's their motivation?</title>
	<author>Edgewize</author>
	<datestamp>1259872500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A competitor to OpenDNS that doesn't hijack the google.com domain results and redirect users to a private server, for one.</p><p>Also they get plenty of high-level aggregate data on website popularity from bookmarks and so forth, which they can't capture from search data alone.</p><p>Ignore the trolls who will spin conspiracy theories about logging individual behavior and tying it to accounts, they expressly deny it in the FAQ and it would open them to so many international lawsuits that they'd have to fire all their engineers and replace them with lawyers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A competitor to OpenDNS that does n't hijack the google.com domain results and redirect users to a private server , for one.Also they get plenty of high-level aggregate data on website popularity from bookmarks and so forth , which they ca n't capture from search data alone.Ignore the trolls who will spin conspiracy theories about logging individual behavior and tying it to accounts , they expressly deny it in the FAQ and it would open them to so many international lawsuits that they 'd have to fire all their engineers and replace them with lawyers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A competitor to OpenDNS that doesn't hijack the google.com domain results and redirect users to a private server, for one.Also they get plenty of high-level aggregate data on website popularity from bookmarks and so forth, which they can't capture from search data alone.Ignore the trolls who will spin conspiracy theories about logging individual behavior and tying it to accounts, they expressly deny it in the FAQ and it would open them to so many international lawsuits that they'd have to fire all their engineers and replace them with lawyers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314590</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314682</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>zunger</author>
	<datestamp>1259872020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because setting up and maintaining your own recursive DNS server is a pain in the ass? (Especially compared to the workload of "here, just change this one setting and it will go faster")</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because setting up and maintaining your own recursive DNS server is a pain in the ass ?
( Especially compared to the workload of " here , just change this one setting and it will go faster " )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because setting up and maintaining your own recursive DNS server is a pain in the ass?
(Especially compared to the workload of "here, just change this one setting and it will go faster")</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30332054</id>
	<title>Re:no thanks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259940240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would rather have NXDOMAIN returned when I try to access a non-existing domain, thankyouverymuch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would rather have NXDOMAIN returned when I try to access a non-existing domain , thankyouverymuch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would rather have NXDOMAIN returned when I try to access a non-existing domain, thankyouverymuch.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30317026</id>
	<title>Re:Support for RFC 4398?</title>
	<author>Fastolfe</author>
	<datestamp>1259837520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why would it not?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would it not ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would it not?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314886</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314524</id>
	<title>Re:8.8.8.8/4</title>
	<author>sopssa</author>
	<datestamp>1259871360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Would be interesting to know how much Google paid for those two 256 ranges to Level 3. One would think simple ip's like 8.8.8.8 would cost some nice amount too.</p><p>Or maybe they should had used the coolest ip on the net, aka</p><p>&gt; host 69.69.69.69<br>69.69.69.69.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer the-coolest-ip-on-the-net.com.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would be interesting to know how much Google paid for those two 256 ranges to Level 3 .
One would think simple ip 's like 8.8.8.8 would cost some nice amount too.Or maybe they should had used the coolest ip on the net , aka &gt; host 69.69.69.6969.69.69.69.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer the-coolest-ip-on-the-net.com .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would be interesting to know how much Google paid for those two 256 ranges to Level 3.
One would think simple ip's like 8.8.8.8 would cost some nice amount too.Or maybe they should had used the coolest ip on the net, aka&gt; host 69.69.69.6969.69.69.69.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer the-coolest-ip-on-the-net.com.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315538</id>
	<title>Dan Kaminsky</title>
	<author>ink</author>
	<datestamp>1259832360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Countdown to Dan Kaminsky abusing it.... 5.... 4.... 3....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Countdown to Dan Kaminsky abusing it.... 5.... 4.... 3... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Countdown to Dan Kaminsky abusing it.... 5.... 4.... 3....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314718</id>
	<title>Latency: most ISPs should win hands down</title>
	<author>olden</author>
	<datestamp>1259872260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>RTT to my own resolver: microseconds<br>RTT to my ISP's resolver (Speakeasy = no redirect and such): ~21ms<br>RTT to Google's: 80+ms<br>No-brainer for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>RTT to my own resolver : microsecondsRTT to my ISP 's resolver ( Speakeasy = no redirect and such ) : ~ 21msRTT to Google 's : 80 + msNo-brainer for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RTT to my own resolver: microsecondsRTT to my ISP's resolver (Speakeasy = no redirect and such): ~21msRTT to Google's: 80+msNo-brainer for me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30319460</id>
	<title>Rocket Science</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259849040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have read the expression "rocket science" at least 4 or 5 times during this discussion, and no, nothing that has been discussed here is rocket science. Rockets are not hard anymore! Even my 5 year old kid was able to build one and he launched it on the beach this summer. So just stop it please.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have read the expression " rocket science " at least 4 or 5 times during this discussion , and no , nothing that has been discussed here is rocket science .
Rockets are not hard anymore !
Even my 5 year old kid was able to build one and he launched it on the beach this summer .
So just stop it please .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have read the expression "rocket science" at least 4 or 5 times during this discussion, and no, nothing that has been discussed here is rocket science.
Rockets are not hard anymore!
Even my 5 year old kid was able to build one and he launched it on the beach this summer.
So just stop it please.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315338</id>
	<title>no thanks</title>
	<author>voodoowizard</author>
	<datestamp>1259831400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I will still use my free <a href="http://www.opendns.com/" title="opendns.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.opendns.com/</a> [opendns.com] servers. The only redirect you get is a search page with is this what you mean. Other than that it will still try and get you where you want to be while also blocking a variety of sites, by your own choosing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I will still use my free http : //www.opendns.com/ [ opendns.com ] servers .
The only redirect you get is a search page with is this what you mean .
Other than that it will still try and get you where you want to be while also blocking a variety of sites , by your own choosing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I will still use my free http://www.opendns.com/ [opendns.com] servers.
The only redirect you get is a search page with is this what you mean.
Other than that it will still try and get you where you want to be while also blocking a variety of sites, by your own choosing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30323532</id>
	<title>They know most anyway</title>
	<author>C\_Kode</author>
	<datestamp>1259941200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Very cool, but of course there are questions about Google's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit."</i></p><p>Almost everyone at work practically uses Google to find their site anyhow.  Instead of typing the URL into the address bar, they Google site they are going to and click on the link.  It's like DNS anyhow for them and Google knows where they are going already!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Very cool , but of course there are questions about Google 's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit .
" Almost everyone at work practically uses Google to find their site anyhow .
Instead of typing the URL into the address bar , they Google site they are going to and click on the link .
It 's like DNS anyhow for them and Google knows where they are going already !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very cool, but of course there are questions about Google's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit.
"Almost everyone at work practically uses Google to find their site anyhow.
Instead of typing the URL into the address bar, they Google site they are going to and click on the link.
It's like DNS anyhow for them and Google knows where they are going already!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30356106</id>
	<title>Re:Why not do both?</title>
	<author>Wowlapalooza</author>
	<datestamp>1260215340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Port 54 is assigned by IANA for "XNS Clearinghouse". See <a href="http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers" title="iana.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers</a> [iana.org].</p><p>It would be safer to pick something that isn't already assigned. If everyone just picked arbitrary ports for their "private" communications, there would be pandemonium. Sniffers also use this registry for displaying packets properly in "user-friendly" formats. The IANA registry exists for a reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Port 54 is assigned by IANA for " XNS Clearinghouse " .
See http : //www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers [ iana.org ] .It would be safer to pick something that is n't already assigned .
If everyone just picked arbitrary ports for their " private " communications , there would be pandemonium .
Sniffers also use this registry for displaying packets properly in " user-friendly " formats .
The IANA registry exists for a reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Port 54 is assigned by IANA for "XNS Clearinghouse".
See http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers [iana.org].It would be safer to pick something that isn't already assigned.
If everyone just picked arbitrary ports for their "private" communications, there would be pandemonium.
Sniffers also use this registry for displaying packets properly in "user-friendly" formats.
The IANA registry exists for a reason.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30319272</id>
	<title>and that is worse because...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259847540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't see what's so bad in having Google know what you have visited today, as they probably already have your (almost) complete list of contacts, emails and online documents. and how is that better than letting your average wet-pants ISP know it instead or, in 90\% of the cases, Microsoft know it as well...?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see what 's so bad in having Google know what you have visited today , as they probably already have your ( almost ) complete list of contacts , emails and online documents .
and how is that better than letting your average wet-pants ISP know it instead or , in 90 \ % of the cases , Microsoft know it as well... ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see what's so bad in having Google know what you have visited today, as they probably already have your (almost) complete list of contacts, emails and online documents.
and how is that better than letting your average wet-pants ISP know it instead or, in 90\% of the cases, Microsoft know it as well...?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316246</id>
	<title>It is not the fastet DNS, at least not for me</title>
	<author>WARM3CH</author>
	<datestamp>1259835180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just run a <a href="http://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm" title="grc.com">simple benchmark</a> [grc.com] to see how fast these are. It turns out that Google's DNS is slower than our university's (I'm in Oregon), OpenDNS and L-3.<ul>
<li> ISP:  Cashed Name: 1 ms, Uncached Name: 8 ms</li>
<li> OpenDNS: Cashed Name: 5 ms, Uncached Name: 8 ms</li>
<li> L-3: Cached Name: 24 ms, Uncached Name: 26 ms</li>
<li> Google: Cashed Name: 44 ms, Uncached Name: 48 ms</li>
</ul><p>

I guess for me it's clear: I'll skip it for now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just run a simple benchmark [ grc.com ] to see how fast these are .
It turns out that Google 's DNS is slower than our university 's ( I 'm in Oregon ) , OpenDNS and L-3 .
ISP : Cashed Name : 1 ms , Uncached Name : 8 ms OpenDNS : Cashed Name : 5 ms , Uncached Name : 8 ms L-3 : Cached Name : 24 ms , Uncached Name : 26 ms Google : Cashed Name : 44 ms , Uncached Name : 48 ms I guess for me it 's clear : I 'll skip it for now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just run a simple benchmark [grc.com] to see how fast these are.
It turns out that Google's DNS is slower than our university's (I'm in Oregon), OpenDNS and L-3.
ISP:  Cashed Name: 1 ms, Uncached Name: 8 ms
 OpenDNS: Cashed Name: 5 ms, Uncached Name: 8 ms
 L-3: Cached Name: 24 ms, Uncached Name: 26 ms
 Google: Cashed Name: 44 ms, Uncached Name: 48 ms


I guess for me it's clear: I'll skip it for now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30318944</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>omnichad</author>
	<datestamp>1259845860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not if your caching name server delegates to the root servers instead of your ISP DNS.  But arguably, Google's DNS might still be faster.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not if your caching name server delegates to the root servers instead of your ISP DNS .
But arguably , Google 's DNS might still be faster .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not if your caching name server delegates to the root servers instead of your ISP DNS.
But arguably, Google's DNS might still be faster.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315760</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315060</id>
	<title>Re:Why all the paranoia over Google?</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1259873700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Has Google actually done something "Evil" that I missed?</i></p><p><a href="http://www.adrants.com/images/evil\_google.jpg" title="adrants.com">http://www.adrants.com/images/evil\_google.jpg</a> [adrants.com]<br><a href="http://dinamehta.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/03-google-73802138\_10.jpg" title="dinamehta.com">http://dinamehta.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/03-google-73802138\_10.jpg</a> [dinamehta.com]<br><a href="http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/geekandpoke/images/page\_1\_182.jpg" title="typepad.com">http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/geekandpoke/images/page\_1\_182.jpg</a> [typepad.com]<br><a href="http://www.adrants.com/images/google-evil.jpg" title="adrants.com">http://www.adrants.com/images/google-evil.jpg</a> [adrants.com]<br><a href="http://www.ideachampions.com/weblogs/google-dr-evil.jpg" title="ideachampions.com">http://www.ideachampions.com/weblogs/google-dr-evil.jpg</a> [ideachampions.com]<br><a href="http://www.crackunit.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/Picture\%203.jpg" title="crackunit.com">http://www.crackunit.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/Picture\%203.jpg</a> [crackunit.com]<br><a href="http://www.cubanxgiants.com/berry/images/google\_extremes.jpg" title="cubanxgiants.com">http://www.cubanxgiants.com/berry/images/google\_extremes.jpg</a> [cubanxgiants.com]<br><a href="http://www.masternewmedia.org/images/Google-text-links-evil-460.gif" title="masternewmedia.org">http://www.masternewmedia.org/images/Google-text-links-evil-460.gif</a> [masternewmedia.org]<br><a href="http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/780.gif" title="geekculture.com">http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/780.gif</a> [geekculture.com]<br><a href="http://www.softsailor.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/google-is-evil.jpg" title="softsailor.com">http://www.softsailor.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/google-is-evil.jpg</a> [softsailor.com]<br><a href="http://culturalpolicyreform.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/evil-google-logo.jpg" title="wordpress.com">http://culturalpolicyreform.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/evil-google-logo.jpg</a> [wordpress.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has Google actually done something " Evil " that I missed ? http : //www.adrants.com/images/evil \ _google.jpg [ adrants.com ] http : //dinamehta.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/03-google-73802138 \ _10.jpg [ dinamehta.com ] http : //geekandpoke.typepad.com/geekandpoke/images/page \ _1 \ _182.jpg [ typepad.com ] http : //www.adrants.com/images/google-evil.jpg [ adrants.com ] http : //www.ideachampions.com/weblogs/google-dr-evil.jpg [ ideachampions.com ] http : //www.crackunit.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/Picture \ % 203.jpg [ crackunit.com ] http : //www.cubanxgiants.com/berry/images/google \ _extremes.jpg [ cubanxgiants.com ] http : //www.masternewmedia.org/images/Google-text-links-evil-460.gif [ masternewmedia.org ] http : //www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/780.gif [ geekculture.com ] http : //www.softsailor.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/google-is-evil.jpg [ softsailor.com ] http : //culturalpolicyreform.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/evil-google-logo.jpg [ wordpress.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has Google actually done something "Evil" that I missed?http://www.adrants.com/images/evil\_google.jpg [adrants.com]http://dinamehta.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/03-google-73802138\_10.jpg [dinamehta.com]http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/geekandpoke/images/page\_1\_182.jpg [typepad.com]http://www.adrants.com/images/google-evil.jpg [adrants.com]http://www.ideachampions.com/weblogs/google-dr-evil.jpg [ideachampions.com]http://www.crackunit.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/Picture\%203.jpg [crackunit.com]http://www.cubanxgiants.com/berry/images/google\_extremes.jpg [cubanxgiants.com]http://www.masternewmedia.org/images/Google-text-links-evil-460.gif [masternewmedia.org]http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/780.gif [geekculture.com]http://www.softsailor.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/google-is-evil.jpg [softsailor.com]http://culturalpolicyreform.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/evil-google-logo.jpg [wordpress.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314570</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</id>
	<title>Why?</title>
	<author>sopssa</author>
	<datestamp>1259870820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But why would one change to use Google's DNS? If you're technical enough and care about such, you're way better off setting up your own recursive DNS server.</p><p>Google is just datamining from DNS requests here, it's another source of information. At least with your own ISP you can reasonably think that theres no datamining going on (excluding US ISP's, of course, who serve ads on non-existing domains for their users anyway)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But why would one change to use Google 's DNS ?
If you 're technical enough and care about such , you 're way better off setting up your own recursive DNS server.Google is just datamining from DNS requests here , it 's another source of information .
At least with your own ISP you can reasonably think that theres no datamining going on ( excluding US ISP 's , of course , who serve ads on non-existing domains for their users anyway )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But why would one change to use Google's DNS?
If you're technical enough and care about such, you're way better off setting up your own recursive DNS server.Google is just datamining from DNS requests here, it's another source of information.
At least with your own ISP you can reasonably think that theres no datamining going on (excluding US ISP's, of course, who serve ads on non-existing domains for their users anyway)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315002</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>ModMeFlamebait</author>
	<datestamp>1259873460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Because setting up and maintaining your own recursive DNS server is a pain in the ass?</p></div></blockquote><blockquote><div><p> <tt>apt-get install pdns-recursor<br>echo 'nameserver 127.0.0.1' &gt;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/etc/resolv.conf</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>Was that so bad?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because setting up and maintaining your own recursive DNS server is a pain in the ass ?
apt-get install pdns-recursorecho 'nameserver 127.0.0.1 ' &gt; /etc/resolv.conf Was that so bad ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because setting up and maintaining your own recursive DNS server is a pain in the ass?
apt-get install pdns-recursorecho 'nameserver 127.0.0.1' &gt; /etc/resolv.conf Was that so bad?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314682</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314902</id>
	<title>OpenNIC has been offering this for years now...</title>
	<author>pongo000</author>
	<datestamp>1259873040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and <a href="http://www.opennicproject.org/" title="opennicproject.org">OpenNIC</a> [opennicproject.org] has no interest in maintaining records of your visits.</p><p>Google is beginning to get scary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and OpenNIC [ opennicproject.org ] has no interest in maintaining records of your visits.Google is beginning to get scary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and OpenNIC [opennicproject.org] has no interest in maintaining records of your visits.Google is beginning to get scary.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315714</id>
	<title>Re:8.8.8.8/4</title>
	<author>AaronMK</author>
	<datestamp>1259833020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>All an alternative DNS server will do is give you the IP of any work blacklisted sites, where as your work's DNS sever might not.  That will not get around work blocking actual communication to those sites.

If you really want to get around work filtering, you should set up a secure VPN at home and tunnel through that.  It is also great for preventing work from having records of your browsing habits.</htmltext>
<tokenext>All an alternative DNS server will do is give you the IP of any work blacklisted sites , where as your work 's DNS sever might not .
That will not get around work blocking actual communication to those sites .
If you really want to get around work filtering , you should set up a secure VPN at home and tunnel through that .
It is also great for preventing work from having records of your browsing habits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All an alternative DNS server will do is give you the IP of any work blacklisted sites, where as your work's DNS sever might not.
That will not get around work blocking actual communication to those sites.
If you really want to get around work filtering, you should set up a secure VPN at home and tunnel through that.
It is also great for preventing work from having records of your browsing habits.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314644</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259871900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, you're not better off. DNS request times improve if the request was already made. By increasing the number of people using the service, you increase the local cache size and increase the speed of the lookup. It's one of the principles behind opendns. Plus this way you don't have to worry about securing a basic DNS resolver and can concentrate on more important things.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , you 're not better off .
DNS request times improve if the request was already made .
By increasing the number of people using the service , you increase the local cache size and increase the speed of the lookup .
It 's one of the principles behind opendns .
Plus this way you do n't have to worry about securing a basic DNS resolver and can concentrate on more important things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, you're not better off.
DNS request times improve if the request was already made.
By increasing the number of people using the service, you increase the local cache size and increase the speed of the lookup.
It's one of the principles behind opendns.
Plus this way you don't have to worry about securing a basic DNS resolver and can concentrate on more important things.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316428</id>
	<title>Re:Why not do both?</title>
	<author>Richy\_T</author>
	<datestamp>1259835780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Definitely this. My ISP changed their upstream provider and *their* network was intercepting requests on port 53. Luckily, I also administer DNS on another network so set up a bypass on port 54. Personally, I think providing false DNS information should count as fraud.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Definitely this .
My ISP changed their upstream provider and * their * network was intercepting requests on port 53 .
Luckily , I also administer DNS on another network so set up a bypass on port 54 .
Personally , I think providing false DNS information should count as fraud .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Definitely this.
My ISP changed their upstream provider and *their* network was intercepting requests on port 53.
Luckily, I also administer DNS on another network so set up a bypass on port 54.
Personally, I think providing false DNS information should count as fraud.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314696</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316086</id>
	<title>Re:Why all the paranoia over Google?</title>
	<author>muridae</author>
	<datestamp>1259834520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>/. might be the biggest NSA front ever, as well. The NSA is soooo scary, we just never know where they might creep up.</p><p>Seriously, this is a valid reason now days?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>/ .
might be the biggest NSA front ever , as well .
The NSA is soooo scary , we just never know where they might creep up.Seriously , this is a valid reason now days ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>/.
might be the biggest NSA front ever, as well.
The NSA is soooo scary, we just never know where they might creep up.Seriously, this is a valid reason now days?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314876</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314722</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>rpp3po</author>
	<datestamp>1259872320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Recursive lookup from by asking the root servers is pretty slow compared to a prefetching resolver, like in the order of at least times 5 to 10. If you never browse new pages it won't make a difference (you'll hit your home server's cache). At least 30\% of my daily browsing are new sites found via Google. For those a fast prefetching resolver can really make a difference. And you very probably don't have a prefetching resolver at home, both RAM and bandwidth needed are usually out of reach for home use.</p><p>Actually, I was pretty surprised how good Google's offering sounds. I stopped using about every service except their search due to privacy concerns, but this really sounds quite appealing to me this time:</p><p> <i>In the permanent logs, we don't keep personally identifiable information or IP information. We do keep some location information (at the city/metro level) so that we can conduct debugging, analyze abuse phenomena and improve the Google Public DNS prefetching feature. We don't correlate or combine your information from these logs with any other log data that Google might have about your use of other services, such as data from Web Search and data from advertising on the Google content network. After keeping this data for two weeks, we randomly sample a small subset for permanent storage.</i> </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Recursive lookup from by asking the root servers is pretty slow compared to a prefetching resolver , like in the order of at least times 5 to 10 .
If you never browse new pages it wo n't make a difference ( you 'll hit your home server 's cache ) .
At least 30 \ % of my daily browsing are new sites found via Google .
For those a fast prefetching resolver can really make a difference .
And you very probably do n't have a prefetching resolver at home , both RAM and bandwidth needed are usually out of reach for home use.Actually , I was pretty surprised how good Google 's offering sounds .
I stopped using about every service except their search due to privacy concerns , but this really sounds quite appealing to me this time : In the permanent logs , we do n't keep personally identifiable information or IP information .
We do keep some location information ( at the city/metro level ) so that we can conduct debugging , analyze abuse phenomena and improve the Google Public DNS prefetching feature .
We do n't correlate or combine your information from these logs with any other log data that Google might have about your use of other services , such as data from Web Search and data from advertising on the Google content network .
After keeping this data for two weeks , we randomly sample a small subset for permanent storage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Recursive lookup from by asking the root servers is pretty slow compared to a prefetching resolver, like in the order of at least times 5 to 10.
If you never browse new pages it won't make a difference (you'll hit your home server's cache).
At least 30\% of my daily browsing are new sites found via Google.
For those a fast prefetching resolver can really make a difference.
And you very probably don't have a prefetching resolver at home, both RAM and bandwidth needed are usually out of reach for home use.Actually, I was pretty surprised how good Google's offering sounds.
I stopped using about every service except their search due to privacy concerns, but this really sounds quite appealing to me this time: In the permanent logs, we don't keep personally identifiable information or IP information.
We do keep some location information (at the city/metro level) so that we can conduct debugging, analyze abuse phenomena and improve the Google Public DNS prefetching feature.
We don't correlate or combine your information from these logs with any other log data that Google might have about your use of other services, such as data from Web Search and data from advertising on the Google content network.
After keeping this data for two weeks, we randomly sample a small subset for permanent storage. </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315012</id>
	<title>Re:At least they have a clear privacy policy</title>
	<author>Z00L00K</author>
	<datestamp>1259873460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Add to that the fact that some IP addresses are shared by a lot of virtual sites which makes statistics about as precise as the slashdot polls.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Add to that the fact that some IP addresses are shared by a lot of virtual sites which makes statistics about as precise as the slashdot polls .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Add to that the fact that some IP addresses are shared by a lot of virtual sites which makes statistics about as precise as the slashdot polls.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314390</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315418</id>
	<title>Re:NTP pool &amp; GeoIP</title>
	<author>TooMuchToDo</author>
	<datestamp>1259831700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>What sort of NTP servers do they need? I have several locations I can host from (I own a technology services firm) and could provide Stratum 1 services, as several of our NTP servers have GPS receivers attached.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What sort of NTP servers do they need ?
I have several locations I can host from ( I own a technology services firm ) and could provide Stratum 1 services , as several of our NTP servers have GPS receivers attached .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What sort of NTP servers do they need?
I have several locations I can host from (I own a technology services firm) and could provide Stratum 1 services, as several of our NTP servers have GPS receivers attached.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314688</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315748</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>afidel</author>
	<datestamp>1259833260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And because most firewalls break the hardening that was done to protect DNS servers last year so to be protected most people need to point at an outside source that can use truly randomized source information.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And because most firewalls break the hardening that was done to protect DNS servers last year so to be protected most people need to point at an outside source that can use truly randomized source information .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And because most firewalls break the hardening that was done to protect DNS servers last year so to be protected most people need to point at an outside source that can use truly randomized source information.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314682</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314414</id>
	<title>8.8.8.8/4</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259870880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"To try it out:</p><p>Configure your network settings to use the IP addresses 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 as your DNS servers..."</p><p>Simple enough to remember which is great. Also - could this be used to circumvent some of the internet security at some workplaces where they seem to run a blacklist of specific sites?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" To try it out : Configure your network settings to use the IP addresses 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 as your DNS servers... " Simple enough to remember which is great .
Also - could this be used to circumvent some of the internet security at some workplaces where they seem to run a blacklist of specific sites ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"To try it out:Configure your network settings to use the IP addresses 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 as your DNS servers..."Simple enough to remember which is great.
Also - could this be used to circumvent some of the internet security at some workplaces where they seem to run a blacklist of specific sites?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30320630</id>
	<title>sorry OpenDNS</title>
	<author>akachler</author>
	<datestamp>1259858820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I used to use you but how can I resist</htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to use you but how can I resist</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to use you but how can I resist</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316816</id>
	<title>Re:Don't get me wrong, I love Google.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259836860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ubiquity is the hallmark of success.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubiquity is the hallmark of success .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ubiquity is the hallmark of success.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314392</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314688</id>
	<title>NTP pool &amp; GeoIP</title>
	<author>avij</author>
	<datestamp>1259872080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The <a href="http://www.pool.ntp.org/" title="ntp.org">NTP pool</a> [ntp.org] (which probably needs even more NTP servers, btw) was recently changed so that the project's DNS servers return a list of nearest available NTP servers when queried. If you change your settings to use Google's DNS servers, the pool will now respond with a list of NTP servers close to Google's DNS servers, which may not be what you wanted.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The NTP pool [ ntp.org ] ( which probably needs even more NTP servers , btw ) was recently changed so that the project 's DNS servers return a list of nearest available NTP servers when queried .
If you change your settings to use Google 's DNS servers , the pool will now respond with a list of NTP servers close to Google 's DNS servers , which may not be what you wanted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The NTP pool [ntp.org] (which probably needs even more NTP servers, btw) was recently changed so that the project's DNS servers return a list of nearest available NTP servers when queried.
If you change your settings to use Google's DNS servers, the pool will now respond with a list of NTP servers close to Google's DNS servers, which may not be what you wanted.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315414</id>
	<title>motives</title>
	<author>Tom</author>
	<datestamp>1259831700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Very cool, but of course there are questions about Google's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit.</p></div><p>Nonsense.</p><p>They want to cut the ISPs and other DNS providers out of their (dishonest) ad revenue streams. For a <b>lot</b> of competitors, this is virtually the only straw left (AOL, anyone? I know at least in Germany if they hadn't forced the marketing of the "Alice" ISP to add such a DNS-misdirect, their portal and search space would be able to count its visits in "hits per hour").</p><p>It hurts their competitors while giving Google an image plus. And the amount of overhead and traffic is neglectable if you already operate on the scale that Google does.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Very cool , but of course there are questions about Google 's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit.Nonsense.They want to cut the ISPs and other DNS providers out of their ( dishonest ) ad revenue streams .
For a lot of competitors , this is virtually the only straw left ( AOL , anyone ?
I know at least in Germany if they had n't forced the marketing of the " Alice " ISP to add such a DNS-misdirect , their portal and search space would be able to count its visits in " hits per hour " ) .It hurts their competitors while giving Google an image plus .
And the amount of overhead and traffic is neglectable if you already operate on the scale that Google does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very cool, but of course there are questions about Google's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit.Nonsense.They want to cut the ISPs and other DNS providers out of their (dishonest) ad revenue streams.
For a lot of competitors, this is virtually the only straw left (AOL, anyone?
I know at least in Germany if they hadn't forced the marketing of the "Alice" ISP to add such a DNS-misdirect, their portal and search space would be able to count its visits in "hits per hour").It hurts their competitors while giving Google an image plus.
And the amount of overhead and traffic is neglectable if you already operate on the scale that Google does.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315576</id>
	<title>Timeout</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259832540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmmmm, does not seem to work at all:</p><p>~&gt; host slashdot.org<br>slashdot.org has address 216.34.181.45<br>slashdot.org mail is handled by 10 mx.corp.sourceforge.com.<br>~&gt; host slashdot.org 8.8.8.8<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached</p><p>Overloaded already?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmmm , does not seem to work at all : ~ &gt; host slashdot.orgslashdot.org has address 216.34.181.45slashdot.org mail is handled by 10 mx.corp.sourceforge.com. ~ &gt; host slashdot.org 8.8.8.8 ; ; connection timed out ; no servers could be reachedOverloaded already ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmmm, does not seem to work at all:~&gt; host slashdot.orgslashdot.org has address 216.34.181.45slashdot.org mail is handled by 10 mx.corp.sourceforge.com.~&gt; host slashdot.org 8.8.8.8 ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reachedOverloaded already?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30319352</id>
	<title>Re:8.8.8.8/4</title>
	<author>1000101</author>
	<datestamp>1259848080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Personally, I think 1000101.1000101.1000101.100101 would be a helluva lot cooler

Yours truly...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally , I think 1000101.1000101.1000101.100101 would be a helluva lot cooler Yours truly.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally, I think 1000101.1000101.1000101.100101 would be a helluva lot cooler

Yours truly...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314524</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30320562</id>
	<title>Re:Why all the paranoia over Google?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259858280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you've just basically described the opposite of paranoia to be implicit trust, which is utterly ridiculous.  there's nothing paranoid about deeming the cost of your privacy to be more than a minor convenience.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you 've just basically described the opposite of paranoia to be implicit trust , which is utterly ridiculous .
there 's nothing paranoid about deeming the cost of your privacy to be more than a minor convenience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you've just basically described the opposite of paranoia to be implicit trust, which is utterly ridiculous.
there's nothing paranoid about deeming the cost of your privacy to be more than a minor convenience.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314570</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30317060</id>
	<title>Re:Why all the paranoia over Google?</title>
	<author>mcrbids</author>
	<datestamp>1259837640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Look.. Google's in the advertising and data aggregation business, yes. But<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... there is a level of suspicion and fear directed at Google that just seems extreme. Has Google actually done something "Evil" that I missed? Or it is just paranoia? I personally think that it's much more likely that OpenDNS or my ISP would do something crazy with this sort of information than Google.</p></div><p> <b>Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. </b></p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Look.. Google 's in the advertising and data aggregation business , yes .
But ... there is a level of suspicion and fear directed at Google that just seems extreme .
Has Google actually done something " Evil " that I missed ?
Or it is just paranoia ?
I personally think that it 's much more likely that OpenDNS or my ISP would do something crazy with this sort of information than Google .
Power corrupts .
Absolute power corrupts absolutely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look.. Google's in the advertising and data aggregation business, yes.
But ... there is a level of suspicion and fear directed at Google that just seems extreme.
Has Google actually done something "Evil" that I missed?
Or it is just paranoia?
I personally think that it's much more likely that OpenDNS or my ISP would do something crazy with this sort of information than Google.
Power corrupts.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. 
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314570</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315376</id>
	<title>Re:8.8.8.8/4</title>
	<author>Ruvim</author>
	<datestamp>1259831580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>8.8.8.8? Would use it just for the IP address<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>8.8.8.8 ?
Would use it just for the IP address : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>8.8.8.8?
Would use it just for the IP address :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316764</id>
	<title>Re:At least they have a clear privacy policy</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1259836680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Point to one instance of a Google ToS getting worse. We are talking about a DNS server. Only<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. types know what that is nvm would be willing to change theirs. Were Google to change their policy it would be pretty widespread news in the tiny group of people that use it. I don't know what you think they'd have to gain from annoying a bunch of nerds (re: people that support and build their whole business). More likely they made something for internal/personal use and just decided to release it because... well it's Google, they can.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Point to one instance of a Google ToS getting worse .
We are talking about a DNS server .
Only / .
types know what that is nvm would be willing to change theirs .
Were Google to change their policy it would be pretty widespread news in the tiny group of people that use it .
I do n't know what you think they 'd have to gain from annoying a bunch of nerds ( re : people that support and build their whole business ) .
More likely they made something for internal/personal use and just decided to release it because... well it 's Google , they can .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Point to one instance of a Google ToS getting worse.
We are talking about a DNS server.
Only /.
types know what that is nvm would be willing to change theirs.
Were Google to change their policy it would be pretty widespread news in the tiny group of people that use it.
I don't know what you think they'd have to gain from annoying a bunch of nerds (re: people that support and build their whole business).
More likely they made something for internal/personal use and just decided to release it because... well it's Google, they can.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315786</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30321190</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>smtrembl</author>
	<datestamp>1259865540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Excuse me but I am not going to set up my own DNS. I have a laptop that I use at many locations, all with slow DNS resolution (Videotron and Bell, anyone?) and Google provides me with a fast, easily accessible DNS that makes everything snappy and doesn't redirect to some stupid ad page when I mistype.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Excuse me but I am not going to set up my own DNS .
I have a laptop that I use at many locations , all with slow DNS resolution ( Videotron and Bell , anyone ?
) and Google provides me with a fast , easily accessible DNS that makes everything snappy and does n't redirect to some stupid ad page when I mistype .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Excuse me but I am not going to set up my own DNS.
I have a laptop that I use at many locations, all with slow DNS resolution (Videotron and Bell, anyone?
) and Google provides me with a fast, easily accessible DNS that makes everything snappy and doesn't redirect to some stupid ad page when I mistype.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315238</id>
	<title>Re:Latency: most ISPs should win hands down</title>
	<author>Killotron</author>
	<datestamp>1259830980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Performed the same test.  Received similar results.

Unless your ISP's DNS presents you with issues (e.g. redirects, slow response time, downtime), it's probably the fastest option. If you are concerned with privacy issues, then your ISP is once again your best choice, since they already know what sites you visit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Performed the same test .
Received similar results .
Unless your ISP 's DNS presents you with issues ( e.g .
redirects , slow response time , downtime ) , it 's probably the fastest option .
If you are concerned with privacy issues , then your ISP is once again your best choice , since they already know what sites you visit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Performed the same test.
Received similar results.
Unless your ISP's DNS presents you with issues (e.g.
redirects, slow response time, downtime), it's probably the fastest option.
If you are concerned with privacy issues, then your ISP is once again your best choice, since they already know what sites you visit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30321884</id>
	<title>No more monoculture, thanks</title>
	<author>12357bd</author>
	<datestamp>1259919780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to say: Thanks, but NO thanks.</p><p>Monoculture is bad. Google is trying to bypass/replace internet and open source. Free/open source coders should be start using Affero GPLv3 license in every piece of software (starting by gcc, and the linux kernel) to stop this madness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to say : Thanks , but NO thanks.Monoculture is bad .
Google is trying to bypass/replace internet and open source .
Free/open source coders should be start using Affero GPLv3 license in every piece of software ( starting by gcc , and the linux kernel ) to stop this madness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to say: Thanks, but NO thanks.Monoculture is bad.
Google is trying to bypass/replace internet and open source.
Free/open source coders should be start using Affero GPLv3 license in every piece of software (starting by gcc, and the linux kernel) to stop this madness.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314818</id>
	<title>News at 10:00 - Gates to come out of retirement</title>
	<author>filesiteguy</author>
	<datestamp>1259872680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll bet he's re-thinking the concept of writing an OS vs. doing a massive search engine. (Not calling it bing - maybe Life the Universe and Everything.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll bet he 's re-thinking the concept of writing an OS vs. doing a massive search engine .
( Not calling it bing - maybe Life the Universe and Everything .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll bet he's re-thinking the concept of writing an OS vs. doing a massive search engine.
(Not calling it bing - maybe Life the Universe and Everything.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315594</id>
	<title>Re:Slowness</title>
	<author>PRMan</author>
	<datestamp>1259832600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's an app for that...</p><p> <a href="http://noscript.net/" title="noscript.net">NoScript</a> [noscript.net] </p><p> <a href="http://adblockplus.org/" title="adblockplus.org">Ad Block Plus</a> [adblockplus.org] </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's an app for that... NoScript [ noscript.net ] Ad Block Plus [ adblockplus.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's an app for that... NoScript [noscript.net]  Ad Block Plus [adblockplus.org] </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314810</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30320860</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Tolkien</author>
	<datestamp>1259861640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>TFS says exactly why we would want to switch to their DNS, and I for one and switching from OpenDNS to Google as soon as I post this message. I'm currently with Bell Sympatico and they've been hijacking DNS failures.</htmltext>
<tokenext>TFS says exactly why we would want to switch to their DNS , and I for one and switching from OpenDNS to Google as soon as I post this message .
I 'm currently with Bell Sympatico and they 've been hijacking DNS failures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFS says exactly why we would want to switch to their DNS, and I for one and switching from OpenDNS to Google as soon as I post this message.
I'm currently with Bell Sympatico and they've been hijacking DNS failures.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314692</id>
	<title>OpenDNS and DynDNS offer more features</title>
	<author>EsJay</author>
	<datestamp>1259872080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Google is not providing malware &amp; phishing blocks and parental/SFW controls.
<br>
DynDNS's redirects are honest searches, not ad-choked.<br>
<a href="https://www.dyndns.com/services/dynguide/" title="dyndns.com">https://www.dyndns.com/services/dynguide/</a> [dyndns.com] <br>
<a href="http://www.opendns.com/" title="opendns.com">http://www.opendns.com/</a> [opendns.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Google is not providing malware &amp; phishing blocks and parental/SFW controls .
DynDNS 's redirects are honest searches , not ad-choked .
https : //www.dyndns.com/services/dynguide/ [ dyndns.com ] http : //www.opendns.com/ [ opendns.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Google is not providing malware &amp; phishing blocks and parental/SFW controls.
DynDNS's redirects are honest searches, not ad-choked.
https://www.dyndns.com/services/dynguide/ [dyndns.com] 
http://www.opendns.com/ [opendns.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315614</id>
	<title>Re:8.8.8.8/4</title>
	<author>ChaosDiscord</author>
	<datestamp>1259832660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>If your network security relies on limiting DNS lookups, you don't really have any network security at all.  You might as well take the house numbers off the front of your house to make it harder for burglars to find your house to break in.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If your network security relies on limiting DNS lookups , you do n't really have any network security at all .
You might as well take the house numbers off the front of your house to make it harder for burglars to find your house to break in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If your network security relies on limiting DNS lookups, you don't really have any network security at all.
You might as well take the house numbers off the front of your house to make it harder for burglars to find your house to break in.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30318764</id>
	<title>Skynet watches the movies</title>
	<author>Tregelen</author>
	<datestamp>1259844900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Skynet saw what happened to it in the movies so changed its name to Google to fly under the radar. Be afraid be very afraid</htmltext>
<tokenext>Skynet saw what happened to it in the movies so changed its name to Google to fly under the radar .
Be afraid be very afraid</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Skynet saw what happened to it in the movies so changed its name to Google to fly under the radar.
Be afraid be very afraid</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315168</id>
	<title>Maybe They Just Want People To Access Their Site</title>
	<author>HannethCom</author>
	<datestamp>1259830800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I seem to recall that there are a few ISPs that are threatening to block all requests to Google sites because of the bandwidth that is being used. I think it stands to reason that the reason Google is running an free DNS is so that people can still access their sites, no matter what their ISP does.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I seem to recall that there are a few ISPs that are threatening to block all requests to Google sites because of the bandwidth that is being used .
I think it stands to reason that the reason Google is running an free DNS is so that people can still access their sites , no matter what their ISP does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I seem to recall that there are a few ISPs that are threatening to block all requests to Google sites because of the bandwidth that is being used.
I think it stands to reason that the reason Google is running an free DNS is so that people can still access their sites, no matter what their ISP does.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30329970</id>
	<title>Re:Don't get me wrong, I love Google.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259926020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm not fearful of the current Google, I'm fearful of the Google when we're three generations of leadership down the road and someone with fewer scruples is at the helm.  What we need now more than ever is rock-solid privacy laws in this country that put looking at someone's data on par with searching their home... it can be done, but you need to get warrants and have a damn good reason to be doing it.</p></div><p>Weird, I thought the same thing about President Bush. I really thought that he had our best interests in mind... but what happens three Presidents down the road... maybe we should write protections into the Consitution. Oh wait...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not fearful of the current Google , I 'm fearful of the Google when we 're three generations of leadership down the road and someone with fewer scruples is at the helm .
What we need now more than ever is rock-solid privacy laws in this country that put looking at someone 's data on par with searching their home... it can be done , but you need to get warrants and have a damn good reason to be doing it.Weird , I thought the same thing about President Bush .
I really thought that he had our best interests in mind... but what happens three Presidents down the road... maybe we should write protections into the Consitution .
Oh wait.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not fearful of the current Google, I'm fearful of the Google when we're three generations of leadership down the road and someone with fewer scruples is at the helm.
What we need now more than ever is rock-solid privacy laws in this country that put looking at someone's data on par with searching their home... it can be done, but you need to get warrants and have a damn good reason to be doing it.Weird, I thought the same thing about President Bush.
I really thought that he had our best interests in mind... but what happens three Presidents down the road... maybe we should write protections into the Consitution.
Oh wait...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314796</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30318494</id>
	<title>Will there be patent infringement?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259843400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since they'll now know what I search for *and* all the sites I visit do you think the Google Blackmail application will infringe on Amazon's 1-click patent?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since they 'll now know what I search for * and * all the sites I visit do you think the Google Blackmail application will infringe on Amazon 's 1-click patent ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since they'll now know what I search for *and* all the sites I visit do you think the Google Blackmail application will infringe on Amazon's 1-click patent?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30320682</id>
	<title>Re:Don't get me wrong, I love Google.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259859300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Analytics gets a zero in my hosts file.  My DNS server is neither ISP nor Google's.  The only thing Google gets from me are search query, IP address, timestamp triplets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Analytics gets a zero in my hosts file .
My DNS server is neither ISP nor Google 's .
The only thing Google gets from me are search query , IP address , timestamp triplets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Analytics gets a zero in my hosts file.
My DNS server is neither ISP nor Google's.
The only thing Google gets from me are search query, IP address, timestamp triplets.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315252</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30334172</id>
	<title>Depending on the Country you're residing</title>
	<author>mahadiga</author>
	<datestamp>1260017580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd suggest you pick the best DNS from <a href="http://www.manu-j.com/blog/opendns-alternative-google-dns-rocks/403/" title="manu-j.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.manu-j.com/blog/opendns-alternative-google-dns-rocks/403/</a> [manu-j.com] or <a href="http://www.dnsserverlist.org/indexbeta.php?oby=Q\_RTT" title="dnsserverlist.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.dnsserverlist.org/indexbeta.php?oby=Q\_RTT</a> [dnsserverlist.org] depending on the Country you're residing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd suggest you pick the best DNS from http : //www.manu-j.com/blog/opendns-alternative-google-dns-rocks/403/ [ manu-j.com ] or http : //www.dnsserverlist.org/indexbeta.php ? oby = Q \ _RTT [ dnsserverlist.org ] depending on the Country you 're residing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd suggest you pick the best DNS from http://www.manu-j.com/blog/opendns-alternative-google-dns-rocks/403/ [manu-j.com] or http://www.dnsserverlist.org/indexbeta.php?oby=Q\_RTT [dnsserverlist.org] depending on the Country you're residing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315312</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315558</id>
	<title>Re:Latency: most ISPs should win hands down</title>
	<author>PRMan</author>
	<datestamp>1259832420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you sure?  Even though they are farther from us than our own resolver or ISP, they probably have a MUCH larger cache, which ensures that they won't then in turn do a lookup which you have to wait for.</p><p>My experience with it so far today at work is that it appears to be much faster than our ISPs DNS, with several pages appearing instantly that have never appeared instantly before.</p><p>Distance to the service is not the only variable involved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you sure ?
Even though they are farther from us than our own resolver or ISP , they probably have a MUCH larger cache , which ensures that they wo n't then in turn do a lookup which you have to wait for.My experience with it so far today at work is that it appears to be much faster than our ISPs DNS , with several pages appearing instantly that have never appeared instantly before.Distance to the service is not the only variable involved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you sure?
Even though they are farther from us than our own resolver or ISP, they probably have a MUCH larger cache, which ensures that they won't then in turn do a lookup which you have to wait for.My experience with it so far today at work is that it appears to be much faster than our ISPs DNS, with several pages appearing instantly that have never appeared instantly before.Distance to the service is not the only variable involved.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314738</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259872320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know this is slashdot and it's assumed that datamining is bad...but why is it bad?  I agree it's wrong when we don't know it's going on, but that's not the case here.  Even if google wasn't up front about it, it's google; it's understood that's what they do.</p><p>Why is datamining in this case a bad thing?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know this is slashdot and it 's assumed that datamining is bad...but why is it bad ?
I agree it 's wrong when we do n't know it 's going on , but that 's not the case here .
Even if google was n't up front about it , it 's google ; it 's understood that 's what they do.Why is datamining in this case a bad thing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know this is slashdot and it's assumed that datamining is bad...but why is it bad?
I agree it's wrong when we don't know it's going on, but that's not the case here.
Even if google wasn't up front about it, it's google; it's understood that's what they do.Why is datamining in this case a bad thing?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315874</id>
	<title>Not EVERY site you visit</title>
	<author>EverlastingPhelps</author>
	<datestamp>1259833680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Technically, they only get to track the sites that you access by domain name.  You can always punch an IP address in and circumvent the DNS system.  Start memorizing those porn IPs now!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Technically , they only get to track the sites that you access by domain name .
You can always punch an IP address in and circumvent the DNS system .
Start memorizing those porn IPs now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Technically, they only get to track the sites that you access by domain name.
You can always punch an IP address in and circumvent the DNS system.
Start memorizing those porn IPs now!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315252</id>
	<title>Re:Don't get me wrong, I love Google.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259831040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you sure about that "...except who I am!"??</p><p>You use Google services, such as Gmail, right?  Even though you sign up with a bogus Gmail account let say with a bogus name like "John Doe", and you send a personal email to a friend of yours.  Your friend replied "Hey Mike".  There!  Google knows your real name and your IP of course.</p><p>Whenever you go other websites with those Google's AdSense ads or Analytic snippets, you will be identified by Google with the help of that magic numbers called IP address.</p><p>You think you can escape from Google?  Think again pal.  They know so much about you than you can imagine.</p><p>Google DNS is another way for them to track your movement at the lowest level with more accuracy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you sure about that " ...except who I am ! " ?
? You use Google services , such as Gmail , right ?
Even though you sign up with a bogus Gmail account let say with a bogus name like " John Doe " , and you send a personal email to a friend of yours .
Your friend replied " Hey Mike " .
There ! Google knows your real name and your IP of course.Whenever you go other websites with those Google 's AdSense ads or Analytic snippets , you will be identified by Google with the help of that magic numbers called IP address.You think you can escape from Google ?
Think again pal .
They know so much about you than you can imagine.Google DNS is another way for them to track your movement at the lowest level with more accuracy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you sure about that "...except who I am!"?
?You use Google services, such as Gmail, right?
Even though you sign up with a bogus Gmail account let say with a bogus name like "John Doe", and you send a personal email to a friend of yours.
Your friend replied "Hey Mike".
There!  Google knows your real name and your IP of course.Whenever you go other websites with those Google's AdSense ads or Analytic snippets, you will be identified by Google with the help of that magic numbers called IP address.You think you can escape from Google?
Think again pal.
They know so much about you than you can imagine.Google DNS is another way for them to track your movement at the lowest level with more accuracy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314686</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30320980</id>
	<title>Re:OpenDNS is faster</title>
	<author>shovas</author>
	<datestamp>1259862900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A lot of people are saying OpenDNS is faster, but I just don't see it. I've been using opendns for a year or two now because my isp does there own hijacking. OpenDNS is randomly slow for me. I've been using Google's dns on all my favourite places and haven't had a hitch and domains I know regularly have problems on opendns show up with no hesitation at all. I'm loving this. And no search/ads pages on missing domains like opendns has is a super bonus.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A lot of people are saying OpenDNS is faster , but I just do n't see it .
I 've been using opendns for a year or two now because my isp does there own hijacking .
OpenDNS is randomly slow for me .
I 've been using Google 's dns on all my favourite places and have n't had a hitch and domains I know regularly have problems on opendns show up with no hesitation at all .
I 'm loving this .
And no search/ads pages on missing domains like opendns has is a super bonus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lot of people are saying OpenDNS is faster, but I just don't see it.
I've been using opendns for a year or two now because my isp does there own hijacking.
OpenDNS is randomly slow for me.
I've been using Google's dns on all my favourite places and haven't had a hitch and domains I know regularly have problems on opendns show up with no hesitation at all.
I'm loving this.
And no search/ads pages on missing domains like opendns has is a super bonus.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316944</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30325310</id>
	<title>Alexa</title>
	<author>fulldecent</author>
	<datestamp>1259949300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm surprised Alexa didn't do it earlier.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm surprised Alexa did n't do it earlier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm surprised Alexa didn't do it earlier.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30318898</id>
	<title>Re:OpenDNS and DynDNS offer more features</title>
	<author>bledri</author>
	<datestamp>1259845620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The Google is not providing malware &amp; phishing blocks and parental/SFW controls.
DynDNS's redirects are honest searches, not ad-choked.</p></div><p>Personally, I want my DNS server to serve the address of the host I asked for.  If that host does not exist, I want to know that it doesn't exist, not get some educated guess about what I meant, or a page of search results.  I have no problem that OpenDNS exists, and I think DynDNS is cool for the dynamic access to my non-static IP address.  But as far as a free, non-ISP hijacked DNS server goes - Google seems to be providing exactly what I want.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Google is not providing malware &amp; phishing blocks and parental/SFW controls .
DynDNS 's redirects are honest searches , not ad-choked.Personally , I want my DNS server to serve the address of the host I asked for .
If that host does not exist , I want to know that it does n't exist , not get some educated guess about what I meant , or a page of search results .
I have no problem that OpenDNS exists , and I think DynDNS is cool for the dynamic access to my non-static IP address .
But as far as a free , non-ISP hijacked DNS server goes - Google seems to be providing exactly what I want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Google is not providing malware &amp; phishing blocks and parental/SFW controls.
DynDNS's redirects are honest searches, not ad-choked.Personally, I want my DNS server to serve the address of the host I asked for.
If that host does not exist, I want to know that it doesn't exist, not get some educated guess about what I meant, or a page of search results.
I have no problem that OpenDNS exists, and I think DynDNS is cool for the dynamic access to my non-static IP address.
But as far as a free, non-ISP hijacked DNS server goes - Google seems to be providing exactly what I want.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314692</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314390</id>
	<title>At least they have a clear privacy policy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259870820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They state very bluntly that IP addresses are expunged from the logs after 48 hours, and that no data is shared with Google Accounts or other Google services.  They still get to play with a lot of aggregated data, but this seems like a fairly non-evil way to do it.  Good for them. <a href="http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq.html#privacy" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq.html#privacy</a> [google.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They state very bluntly that IP addresses are expunged from the logs after 48 hours , and that no data is shared with Google Accounts or other Google services .
They still get to play with a lot of aggregated data , but this seems like a fairly non-evil way to do it .
Good for them .
http : //code.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq.html # privacy [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They state very bluntly that IP addresses are expunged from the logs after 48 hours, and that no data is shared with Google Accounts or other Google services.
They still get to play with a lot of aggregated data, but this seems like a fairly non-evil way to do it.
Good for them.
http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq.html#privacy [google.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30320300</id>
	<title>Absolutely, thumbs up for google</title>
	<author>shovas</author>
	<datestamp>1259856000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most people don't know it but:

- Rogers does deep packet inspection and throttling

- they transparently proxy all html and can insert an advertisement in any page they wish (when you're near the banwidth limit you'll get notices embedded in your completely unrelated websites they you're at 75\% or 90\% of the limit).

- they hijack dns and put up those horrific search engine + ads pages

Thumbs up to google.

But, I will curse rogers even more when they find out and start redirecting dns requests back to their own servers.

Evil, evil companies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most people do n't know it but : - Rogers does deep packet inspection and throttling - they transparently proxy all html and can insert an advertisement in any page they wish ( when you 're near the banwidth limit you 'll get notices embedded in your completely unrelated websites they you 're at 75 \ % or 90 \ % of the limit ) .
- they hijack dns and put up those horrific search engine + ads pages Thumbs up to google .
But , I will curse rogers even more when they find out and start redirecting dns requests back to their own servers .
Evil , evil companies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most people don't know it but:

- Rogers does deep packet inspection and throttling

- they transparently proxy all html and can insert an advertisement in any page they wish (when you're near the banwidth limit you'll get notices embedded in your completely unrelated websites they you're at 75\% or 90\% of the limit).
- they hijack dns and put up those horrific search engine + ads pages

Thumbs up to google.
But, I will curse rogers even more when they find out and start redirecting dns requests back to their own servers.
Evil, evil companies.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314400</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30319130</id>
	<title>Re:NTP pool &amp; GeoIP</title>
	<author>omnichad</author>
	<datestamp>1259846700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Umm...You are connecting to Google DNS with anycast. Why wouldn't the pool response still be relatively close to you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Umm...You are connecting to Google DNS with anycast .
Why would n't the pool response still be relatively close to you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Umm...You are connecting to Google DNS with anycast.
Why wouldn't the pool response still be relatively close to you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314688</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314948</id>
	<title>TorDNS works for me!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259873220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why me worry with OpenDNS or GoogleDNS or sumudduh DNS, when I can use TorDNS!</p><p>The tor network is far better than any public DNS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why me worry with OpenDNS or GoogleDNS or sumudduh DNS , when I can use TorDNS ! The tor network is far better than any public DNS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why me worry with OpenDNS or GoogleDNS or sumudduh DNS, when I can use TorDNS!The tor network is far better than any public DNS.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30319220</id>
	<title>Re:At least they have a clear privacy policy</title>
	<author>Jugalator</author>
	<datestamp>1259847240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just out of interest, how frequent has this practice been by Google in the past?</p><p>
&nbsp; I can't recall any horror stories about this even on Slashdot, which is exactly the kind of site that would be all over the opportunity.</p><p>Personally, I think this service may be put online simply to put Google in more positive light. Doing a service just for the heck of it, with no hidden agenda. It's not like they don't have the economy to run a public, well-configured, DNS, and still some to spare.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-p Now they can feel like they offer a public DNS service while Microsoft doesn't, and feel good about that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just out of interest , how frequent has this practice been by Google in the past ?
  I ca n't recall any horror stories about this even on Slashdot , which is exactly the kind of site that would be all over the opportunity.Personally , I think this service may be put online simply to put Google in more positive light .
Doing a service just for the heck of it , with no hidden agenda .
It 's not like they do n't have the economy to run a public , well-configured , DNS , and still some to spare .
: -p Now they can feel like they offer a public DNS service while Microsoft does n't , and feel good about that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just out of interest, how frequent has this practice been by Google in the past?
  I can't recall any horror stories about this even on Slashdot, which is exactly the kind of site that would be all over the opportunity.Personally, I think this service may be put online simply to put Google in more positive light.
Doing a service just for the heck of it, with no hidden agenda.
It's not like they don't have the economy to run a public, well-configured, DNS, and still some to spare.
:-p Now they can feel like they offer a public DNS service while Microsoft doesn't, and feel good about that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315786</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30322480</id>
	<title>DNS and communities...</title>
	<author>GNUPublicLicense</author>
	<datestamp>1259931000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some communities have their own DNS. Indeed, emails can nicely be done only with DNS MX records.
Hope google will stick to the current DNS protocol. If they want to extend the protocol... it has to be extremely simple to implement and go throught classic normalization processes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Some communities have their own DNS .
Indeed , emails can nicely be done only with DNS MX records .
Hope google will stick to the current DNS protocol .
If they want to extend the protocol... it has to be extremely simple to implement and go throught classic normalization processes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some communities have their own DNS.
Indeed, emails can nicely be done only with DNS MX records.
Hope google will stick to the current DNS protocol.
If they want to extend the protocol... it has to be extremely simple to implement and go throught classic normalization processes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315400</id>
	<title>chrome os anyone?</title>
	<author>jackflap</author>
	<datestamp>1259831640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>first thing that popped into my head was that chrome os could default to google's dns for lookups</p><p>this could be just another way to market chrome os netbooks as faster for web surfing</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>first thing that popped into my head was that chrome os could default to google 's dns for lookupsthis could be just another way to market chrome os netbooks as faster for web surfing</tokentext>
<sentencetext>first thing that popped into my head was that chrome os could default to google's dns for lookupsthis could be just another way to market chrome os netbooks as faster for web surfing</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315100</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>bschorr</author>
	<datestamp>1259873760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't get why I would use Google's DNS instead of OpenDNS - which is what all of my sites use now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get why I would use Google 's DNS instead of OpenDNS - which is what all of my sites use now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get why I would use Google's DNS instead of OpenDNS - which is what all of my sites use now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315470</id>
	<title>Re:Don't get me wrong, I love Google.</title>
	<author>ArsonSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1259832000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"What I search for, where I surf to, with my Droid where I navigate to, my e-mails, my documents. WOW."</p><p>They follow your world of warcraft account?  That's going too far.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" What I search for , where I surf to , with my Droid where I navigate to , my e-mails , my documents .
WOW. " They follow your world of warcraft account ?
That 's going too far .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"What I search for, where I surf to, with my Droid where I navigate to, my e-mails, my documents.
WOW."They follow your world of warcraft account?
That's going too far.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314392</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315182</id>
	<title>8.8.8.8</title>
	<author>spynode</author>
	<datestamp>1259830800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>With IP like that who needs domain names ?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>With IP like that who needs domain names ?
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With IP like that who needs domain names ?
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30318146</id>
	<title>Re:At least they have a clear privacy policy</title>
	<author>HeronBlademaster</author>
	<datestamp>1259841840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Other companies, perhaps.  But when has <i>Google</i> ever made their ToS more evil?</p><p>As far as I'm concerned, Google has done nothing to undermine our trust in their sincerity.  If you have examples, though, I'm more than willing to dig in to it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Other companies , perhaps .
But when has Google ever made their ToS more evil ? As far as I 'm concerned , Google has done nothing to undermine our trust in their sincerity .
If you have examples , though , I 'm more than willing to dig in to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Other companies, perhaps.
But when has Google ever made their ToS more evil?As far as I'm concerned, Google has done nothing to undermine our trust in their sincerity.
If you have examples, though, I'm more than willing to dig in to it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315786</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30318998</id>
	<title>Re:no thanks</title>
	<author>HeronBlademaster</author>
	<datestamp>1259846160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If that's what you want, you're free to use OpenDNS, but personally, if I type in a nonexistent domain, I'd rather get an error instead of an ad-filled "is this what you mean?" page.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If that 's what you want , you 're free to use OpenDNS , but personally , if I type in a nonexistent domain , I 'd rather get an error instead of an ad-filled " is this what you mean ?
" page .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If that's what you want, you're free to use OpenDNS, but personally, if I type in a nonexistent domain, I'd rather get an error instead of an ad-filled "is this what you mean?
" page.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314958</id>
	<title>Re:Don't get me wrong, I love Google.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259873280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And exactly who is forcing you to use all these services they provide, and that allow them to collect your data?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And exactly who is forcing you to use all these services they provide , and that allow them to collect your data ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And exactly who is forcing you to use all these services they provide, and that allow them to collect your data?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314392</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314570</id>
	<title>Why all the paranoia over Google?</title>
	<author>Fished</author>
	<datestamp>1259871600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Very cool, but of course there are questions about Google's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Look.. Google's in the advertising and data aggregation business, yes.  But<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... there is a level of suspicion and fear directed at Google that just seems extreme.  Has Google actually done something "Evil" that I missed?  Or it is just paranoia?  I personally think that it's much more likely that OpenDNS or my ISP would do something crazy with this sort of information than Google.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Very cool , but of course there are questions about Google 's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit .
Look.. Google 's in the advertising and data aggregation business , yes .
But ... there is a level of suspicion and fear directed at Google that just seems extreme .
Has Google actually done something " Evil " that I missed ?
Or it is just paranoia ?
I personally think that it 's much more likely that OpenDNS or my ISP would do something crazy with this sort of information than Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very cool, but of course there are questions about Google's true motivations behind knowing every site you visit.
Look.. Google's in the advertising and data aggregation business, yes.
But ... there is a level of suspicion and fear directed at Google that just seems extreme.
Has Google actually done something "Evil" that I missed?
Or it is just paranoia?
I personally think that it's much more likely that OpenDNS or my ISP would do something crazy with this sort of information than Google.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315200</id>
	<title>Re:8.8.8.8/4</title>
	<author>Lord Ender</author>
	<datestamp>1259830860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not familiar with any web filtering solutions which rely on DNS to do the filtering. The ones I've seen either use a standard HTTP proxy or a transparent proxy. If you try and request a resource by IP, they'll block it just the same.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not familiar with any web filtering solutions which rely on DNS to do the filtering .
The ones I 've seen either use a standard HTTP proxy or a transparent proxy .
If you try and request a resource by IP , they 'll block it just the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not familiar with any web filtering solutions which rely on DNS to do the filtering.
The ones I've seen either use a standard HTTP proxy or a transparent proxy.
If you try and request a resource by IP, they'll block it just the same.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314414</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316138</id>
	<title>Re:end game in sight</title>
	<author>AndrewNeo</author>
	<datestamp>1259834700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not really sure what you're going on about, but the specifications for LTE (4th gen. cellular) use SIP for voice services, which includes both tel:+1234567890 and sip:name@host.tld support.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not really sure what you 're going on about , but the specifications for LTE ( 4th gen. cellular ) use SIP for voice services , which includes both tel : + 1234567890 and sip : name @ host.tld support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not really sure what you're going on about, but the specifications for LTE (4th gen. cellular) use SIP for voice services, which includes both tel:+1234567890 and sip:name@host.tld support.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314766</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30326754</id>
	<title>Re:No IPv6 records :-(</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1259955180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps thats because the resolve is on ipv4 address space, meant to be responding to ipv4 clients, so returning an ipv4 answer makes sense.</p><p>Now if your request is done on ipv6 address, then google tends to return ipv6 answers from their servers.</p><p>Its all documented on their pages somewhere.  Then only return AAAA addresses to clients and servers which have ipv6 addresses.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps thats because the resolve is on ipv4 address space , meant to be responding to ipv4 clients , so returning an ipv4 answer makes sense.Now if your request is done on ipv6 address , then google tends to return ipv6 answers from their servers.Its all documented on their pages somewhere .
Then only return AAAA addresses to clients and servers which have ipv6 addresses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps thats because the resolve is on ipv4 address space, meant to be responding to ipv4 clients, so returning an ipv4 answer makes sense.Now if your request is done on ipv6 address, then google tends to return ipv6 answers from their servers.Its all documented on their pages somewhere.
Then only return AAAA addresses to clients and servers which have ipv6 addresses.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314612</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30321870</id>
	<title>Re:I guess it is good news...</title>
	<author>mahadiga</author>
	<datestamp>1259919540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>geographically near you when you use one of those addresses.</p></div></blockquote><p>
You can get that list in <a href="http://www.dnsserverlist.org/indexbeta.php?oby=Q\_RTT" title="dnsserverlist.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.dnsserverlist.org/indexbeta.php?oby=Q\_RTT</a> [dnsserverlist.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>geographically near you when you use one of those addresses .
You can get that list in http : //www.dnsserverlist.org/indexbeta.php ? oby = Q \ _RTT [ dnsserverlist.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>geographically near you when you use one of those addresses.
You can get that list in http://www.dnsserverlist.org/indexbeta.php?oby=Q\_RTT [dnsserverlist.org]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315312</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30319250</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Jugalator</author>
	<datestamp>1259847420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>At least with your own ISP you can reasonably think that theres no datamining going on (excluding US ISP's, of course, who serve ads on non-existing domains for their users anyway)</p></div><p>Or they can, and sell this information to advertisers for more targetted ads and added revenue. I'm not sure why random ISP's would be more unscrupolous than Google?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least with your own ISP you can reasonably think that theres no datamining going on ( excluding US ISP 's , of course , who serve ads on non-existing domains for their users anyway ) Or they can , and sell this information to advertisers for more targetted ads and added revenue .
I 'm not sure why random ISP 's would be more unscrupolous than Google ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least with your own ISP you can reasonably think that theres no datamining going on (excluding US ISP's, of course, who serve ads on non-existing domains for their users anyway)Or they can, and sell this information to advertisers for more targetted ads and added revenue.
I'm not sure why random ISP's would be more unscrupolous than Google?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314612</id>
	<title>No IPv6 records :-(</title>
	<author>Cronq</author>
	<datestamp>1259871720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They don't publish own IPv6 records via this resolver<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They do n't publish own IPv6 records via this resolver : - (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They don't publish own IPv6 records via this resolver :-(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315312</id>
	<title>Re:I guess it is good news...</title>
	<author>ahecht</author>
	<datestamp>1259831340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>4.2.2.2 and their ilk are free and non-redirecting. You can use 4.2.2.1  4.2.2.2  4.2.2.3  4.2.2.4  4.2.2.5 or 4.2.2.6</p><p>They are run by L-3 and sitting on major backbones, and the ip addresses are pooled, so that you will likely get a server that is geographically near you when you use one of those addresses.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>4.2.2.2 and their ilk are free and non-redirecting .
You can use 4.2.2.1 4.2.2.2 4.2.2.3 4.2.2.4 4.2.2.5 or 4.2.2.6They are run by L-3 and sitting on major backbones , and the ip addresses are pooled , so that you will likely get a server that is geographically near you when you use one of those addresses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>4.2.2.2 and their ilk are free and non-redirecting.
You can use 4.2.2.1  4.2.2.2  4.2.2.3  4.2.2.4  4.2.2.5 or 4.2.2.6They are run by L-3 and sitting on major backbones, and the ip addresses are pooled, so that you will likely get a server that is geographically near you when you use one of those addresses.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314340</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316054</id>
	<title>NOT knowing every site you visit.</title>
	<author>scorp1us</author>
	<datestamp>1259834400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They only know the addresses you resolve. Visitation is a completely different matter. I resolve things without visiting all the time. For instance, ping. or maybe someone visited <i>me</i> and I want to know who they were.</p><p>And if you're so concerned, I don't know why you don't set up a DNS pool and resolve though multiple servers, so none except your local (which may be on your own machine) will know the full picture.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They only know the addresses you resolve .
Visitation is a completely different matter .
I resolve things without visiting all the time .
For instance , ping .
or maybe someone visited me and I want to know who they were.And if you 're so concerned , I do n't know why you do n't set up a DNS pool and resolve though multiple servers , so none except your local ( which may be on your own machine ) will know the full picture .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They only know the addresses you resolve.
Visitation is a completely different matter.
I resolve things without visiting all the time.
For instance, ping.
or maybe someone visited me and I want to know who they were.And if you're so concerned, I don't know why you don't set up a DNS pool and resolve though multiple servers, so none except your local (which may be on your own machine) will know the full picture.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316248</id>
	<title>Re:No IPv6 records :-(</title>
	<author>Wowlapalooza</author>
	<datestamp>1259835180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google has a special "Cluefulness Test" when it comes to IPv6: <a href="http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/</a> [google.com]. In order to get IPv6 resolution, you need to register the source addresses of your nameservers with them, and claim/prove that you and your provider have "good" IPv6 connectivity to Google. You're also expected to troubleshoot any IPv6 problems that may occur, as opposed to your clueless users bugging Google directly about it.</p><p>If you don't meet those criteria, you're still welcome to use ipv6.google.com for searches, of course. But that's not the whole suite of Google tools/products, and the URL is just not as convenient...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google has a special " Cluefulness Test " when it comes to IPv6 : http : //www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/ [ google.com ] .
In order to get IPv6 resolution , you need to register the source addresses of your nameservers with them , and claim/prove that you and your provider have " good " IPv6 connectivity to Google .
You 're also expected to troubleshoot any IPv6 problems that may occur , as opposed to your clueless users bugging Google directly about it.If you do n't meet those criteria , you 're still welcome to use ipv6.google.com for searches , of course .
But that 's not the whole suite of Google tools/products , and the URL is just not as convenient.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google has a special "Cluefulness Test" when it comes to IPv6: http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/ [google.com].
In order to get IPv6 resolution, you need to register the source addresses of your nameservers with them, and claim/prove that you and your provider have "good" IPv6 connectivity to Google.
You're also expected to troubleshoot any IPv6 problems that may occur, as opposed to your clueless users bugging Google directly about it.If you don't meet those criteria, you're still welcome to use ipv6.google.com for searches, of course.
But that's not the whole suite of Google tools/products, and the URL is just not as convenient...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314612</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30322812</id>
	<title>Re:It is not the fastet DNS, at least not for me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259935860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please retry. A datacenter in Oregon just came up so you should get much faster responses now since you're right there.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please retry .
A datacenter in Oregon just came up so you should get much faster responses now since you 're right there .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please retry.
A datacenter in Oregon just came up so you should get much faster responses now since you're right there.
:-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316246</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316088</id>
	<title>Re:end game in sight</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1259834580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Looks like all the infrastructure pieces are in place for the mass change of how cell phones are going to work.</p></div></blockquote><p>Actually, that's a mass change of how <i>phones</i> (not just cell) are going to work, since the FCC is planning a switch from PSTN to all-VoIP.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like all the infrastructure pieces are in place for the mass change of how cell phones are going to work.Actually , that 's a mass change of how phones ( not just cell ) are going to work , since the FCC is planning a switch from PSTN to all-VoIP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like all the infrastructure pieces are in place for the mass change of how cell phones are going to work.Actually, that's a mass change of how phones (not just cell) are going to work, since the FCC is planning a switch from PSTN to all-VoIP.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314766</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30318684</id>
	<title>citation needed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259844360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Last I checked, it worked.</p><p>How long does it take to 'turn off public access', if it's been going on for a while?<br>Is it a threat?  A rumour?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Last I checked , it worked.How long does it take to 'turn off public access ' , if it 's been going on for a while ? Is it a threat ?
A rumour ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last I checked, it worked.How long does it take to 'turn off public access', if it's been going on for a while?Is it a threat?
A rumour?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315656</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314914</id>
	<title>Nixo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259873040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>GOOGLE IS SKYNET!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>GOOGLE IS SKYNET !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GOOGLE IS SKYNET!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30318180</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>HeronBlademaster</author>
	<datestamp>1259841960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you're technical enough and care about such, you're way better off setting up your own recursive DNS server.</p></div><p>Being technical enough to do it doesn't mean you're willing to invest the time, effort, and equipment into setting up your own server.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're technical enough and care about such , you 're way better off setting up your own recursive DNS server.Being technical enough to do it does n't mean you 're willing to invest the time , effort , and equipment into setting up your own server .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're technical enough and care about such, you're way better off setting up your own recursive DNS server.Being technical enough to do it doesn't mean you're willing to invest the time, effort, and equipment into setting up your own server.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314394</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315206</id>
	<title>Re:At least they have a clear privacy policy</title>
	<author>JCSoRocks</author>
	<datestamp>1259830860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Based on this information, I'm officially switching. The first time I came across an advertisement rather than a failed DNS lookup I was <i>not</i> happy. It's incredibly annoying.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Based on this information , I 'm officially switching .
The first time I came across an advertisement rather than a failed DNS lookup I was not happy .
It 's incredibly annoying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Based on this information, I'm officially switching.
The first time I came across an advertisement rather than a failed DNS lookup I was not happy.
It's incredibly annoying.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314390</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30315884</id>
	<title>Google, you tools.</title>
	<author>Mish</author>
	<datestamp>1259833740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I love this, really.  Now when doing DNS testing from any location I can always test using 8.8.8.8, that's a huge benefit to me.<br><br>However,  They're telling end-users to "try" their DNS service and giving basic instructions.<br>Their geo-location is no-where near complete, for end-users in (for example) New Zealand who follow their instructions they'll have:<br><br>* Pro: A DNS Server that will most likely have nearly all results cached, quicker overall response.<br>* Pro: DNS Infrastructure redundency through Google.<br><br>But...<br>* Con: A DNS System with higher latency.<br>* Con: A DNS System where if using only those two servers (through Googles instructions) when International connectivity dies, so does all your DNS.<br><br>I've moved my home server over to 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4, ISPDNS1, ISPDNS2 to negate these issues and provide better DNS service than my ISP.<br>I honestly would have expected more from Google, at the very least a geo-location test to ensure they have DNS servers in your "region" before advising to "Try" their system.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I love this , really .
Now when doing DNS testing from any location I can always test using 8.8.8.8 , that 's a huge benefit to me.However , They 're telling end-users to " try " their DNS service and giving basic instructions.Their geo-location is no-where near complete , for end-users in ( for example ) New Zealand who follow their instructions they 'll have : * Pro : A DNS Server that will most likely have nearly all results cached , quicker overall response .
* Pro : DNS Infrastructure redundency through Google.But... * Con : A DNS System with higher latency .
* Con : A DNS System where if using only those two servers ( through Googles instructions ) when International connectivity dies , so does all your DNS.I 've moved my home server over to 8.8.8.8 , 8.8.4.4 , ISPDNS1 , ISPDNS2 to negate these issues and provide better DNS service than my ISP.I honestly would have expected more from Google , at the very least a geo-location test to ensure they have DNS servers in your " region " before advising to " Try " their system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love this, really.
Now when doing DNS testing from any location I can always test using 8.8.8.8, that's a huge benefit to me.However,  They're telling end-users to "try" their DNS service and giving basic instructions.Their geo-location is no-where near complete, for end-users in (for example) New Zealand who follow their instructions they'll have:* Pro: A DNS Server that will most likely have nearly all results cached, quicker overall response.
* Pro: DNS Infrastructure redundency through Google.But...* Con: A DNS System with higher latency.
* Con: A DNS System where if using only those two servers (through Googles instructions) when International connectivity dies, so does all your DNS.I've moved my home server over to 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4, ISPDNS1, ISPDNS2 to negate these issues and provide better DNS service than my ISP.I honestly would have expected more from Google, at the very least a geo-location test to ensure they have DNS servers in your "region" before advising to "Try" their system.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316650</id>
	<title>Bad things Google has done with information?</title>
	<author>Cormophyte</author>
	<datestamp>1259836380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've never personally heard of Google doing anything with people's data that I'd mind terribly.</p><p>Most notably I use their email service, I'll use my Wave account if and when it becomes particularly useful, and I just might use their DNS server because I am pretty tired of my ISP's slow responses. So if they decided to at some point they could do some serious damage to my privacy.</p><p>But up to this point they've only provided services that I find useful and generally superior to other free alternatives and have only asked for statistics and a reasonable amount of screen real estate for ads. I'm definitely not one to trust a company with too much information, but so far that's perfectly acceptable to me.</p><p>If someone can give me a good, currently applicable, practical reason to, though, I'll avoid their DNS like the plague.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've never personally heard of Google doing anything with people 's data that I 'd mind terribly.Most notably I use their email service , I 'll use my Wave account if and when it becomes particularly useful , and I just might use their DNS server because I am pretty tired of my ISP 's slow responses .
So if they decided to at some point they could do some serious damage to my privacy.But up to this point they 've only provided services that I find useful and generally superior to other free alternatives and have only asked for statistics and a reasonable amount of screen real estate for ads .
I 'm definitely not one to trust a company with too much information , but so far that 's perfectly acceptable to me.If someone can give me a good , currently applicable , practical reason to , though , I 'll avoid their DNS like the plague .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've never personally heard of Google doing anything with people's data that I'd mind terribly.Most notably I use their email service, I'll use my Wave account if and when it becomes particularly useful, and I just might use their DNS server because I am pretty tired of my ISP's slow responses.
So if they decided to at some point they could do some serious damage to my privacy.But up to this point they've only provided services that I find useful and generally superior to other free alternatives and have only asked for statistics and a reasonable amount of screen real estate for ads.
I'm definitely not one to trust a company with too much information, but so far that's perfectly acceptable to me.If someone can give me a good, currently applicable, practical reason to, though, I'll avoid their DNS like the plague.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30322104</id>
	<title>Re:NTP pool &amp; GeoIP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259923320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1647302, discussed at http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/11/07/199256</p><blockquote><div><p>Stupid DNS Tricks<br>The first widespread form of DNS lie was to treat DNS lookups as mapping requests. CDNs (content distribution networks) such as Akamai and Web optimizer products such as Cisco Distributed Director treat incoming DNS lookups as opportunities to direct the activities of Web browsers. Using the IP source address of a DNS request, these products and services try to guess the proximity of the requester to each of many replicated content servers. Based on the measured load of each content server's system and network, and on an estimate of each content server's proximity to that requester, a DNS response is crafted to direct that requester to the closest or best content server for that URI domain.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //queue.acm.org/detail.cfm ? id = 1647302 , discussed at http : //tech.slashdot.org/article.pl ? sid = 09/11/07/199256Stupid DNS TricksThe first widespread form of DNS lie was to treat DNS lookups as mapping requests .
CDNs ( content distribution networks ) such as Akamai and Web optimizer products such as Cisco Distributed Director treat incoming DNS lookups as opportunities to direct the activities of Web browsers .
Using the IP source address of a DNS request , these products and services try to guess the proximity of the requester to each of many replicated content servers .
Based on the measured load of each content server 's system and network , and on an estimate of each content server 's proximity to that requester , a DNS response is crafted to direct that requester to the closest or best content server for that URI domain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1647302, discussed at http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/11/07/199256Stupid DNS TricksThe first widespread form of DNS lie was to treat DNS lookups as mapping requests.
CDNs (content distribution networks) such as Akamai and Web optimizer products such as Cisco Distributed Director treat incoming DNS lookups as opportunities to direct the activities of Web browsers.
Using the IP source address of a DNS request, these products and services try to guess the proximity of the requester to each of many replicated content servers.
Based on the measured load of each content server's system and network, and on an estimate of each content server's proximity to that requester, a DNS response is crafted to direct that requester to the closest or best content server for that URI domain.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316410</id>
	<title>Not for the Good of Man</title>
	<author>duanes1967</author>
	<datestamp>1259835780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I seriously doubt this has anything to do with Google wanting to save the Internet.  It is about them seeing what web sites users are going to by mining dns queries.  There is a huge amount of marketing data to be had.

If they wanted to save the Internet, they would put up some sort of DNS filtering that would knock out all of the Nigerian Princes and Fake-Alert Antivirus programs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I seriously doubt this has anything to do with Google wanting to save the Internet .
It is about them seeing what web sites users are going to by mining dns queries .
There is a huge amount of marketing data to be had .
If they wanted to save the Internet , they would put up some sort of DNS filtering that would knock out all of the Nigerian Princes and Fake-Alert Antivirus programs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I seriously doubt this has anything to do with Google wanting to save the Internet.
It is about them seeing what web sites users are going to by mining dns queries.
There is a huge amount of marketing data to be had.
If they wanted to save the Internet, they would put up some sort of DNS filtering that would knock out all of the Nigerian Princes and Fake-Alert Antivirus programs.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30320258</id>
	<title>Re:At least they have a clear privacy policy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259855580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that's 48 hours for each request, and it's only the public dns permanent log (which does not hold IP information) that they claim is not correlated with their search and ad database.  so unless you regularly take 2 day breaks from the internet, there is no privacy here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that 's 48 hours for each request , and it 's only the public dns permanent log ( which does not hold IP information ) that they claim is not correlated with their search and ad database .
so unless you regularly take 2 day breaks from the internet , there is no privacy here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that's 48 hours for each request, and it's only the public dns permanent log (which does not hold IP information) that they claim is not correlated with their search and ad database.
so unless you regularly take 2 day breaks from the internet, there is no privacy here.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30317916</id>
	<title>Re:Why not do both?</title>
	<author>The MAZZTer</author>
	<datestamp>1259840700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do any OSs support this though?  AFAIK neither Ubuntu or Windows present an option for an alternate port in the UI.  Maybe behind the scenes there's an option (I'm guessing definitely on Linux) but in Windows I have no clue...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do any OSs support this though ?
AFAIK neither Ubuntu or Windows present an option for an alternate port in the UI .
Maybe behind the scenes there 's an option ( I 'm guessing definitely on Linux ) but in Windows I have no clue.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do any OSs support this though?
AFAIK neither Ubuntu or Windows present an option for an alternate port in the UI.
Maybe behind the scenes there's an option (I'm guessing definitely on Linux) but in Windows I have no clue...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30316218</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>zunger</author>
	<datestamp>1259835000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That depends on whether you're running a Linux box at home in a "reliable enough" way to be functioning as a server. And in the example you give, as your primary machine as well. While I realize that many<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. users do this, I would certainly say that most people don't.</p><p>I actually stopped doing it several years ago. I concluded that I have to maintain enough complex systems at work; I don't see any need to be a sysadmin for a complex system that requires nonstop patching and understanding of 30-year-old system internals at home, too. Plus the desktop environment was frankly primitive compared to modern machines. So I ditched it and started running OS X. (And I should say that I'm an experienced Linux sysadmin and engineer professionally, so this was not the "I don't know how to use it and it appears to have been designed by badgers" issue)</p><p>It's definitely true that, if you're already doing all of the work to run your own system at home, adding a DNS server isn't a big deal. But that's really a hobbyist thing to do. If your home system is primarily for the purpose of getting things done, rather than for playing with systems, it's an enormous amount of extra work. Yet having faster DNS lookups is still a win.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That depends on whether you 're running a Linux box at home in a " reliable enough " way to be functioning as a server .
And in the example you give , as your primary machine as well .
While I realize that many / .
users do this , I would certainly say that most people do n't.I actually stopped doing it several years ago .
I concluded that I have to maintain enough complex systems at work ; I do n't see any need to be a sysadmin for a complex system that requires nonstop patching and understanding of 30-year-old system internals at home , too .
Plus the desktop environment was frankly primitive compared to modern machines .
So I ditched it and started running OS X .
( And I should say that I 'm an experienced Linux sysadmin and engineer professionally , so this was not the " I do n't know how to use it and it appears to have been designed by badgers " issue ) It 's definitely true that , if you 're already doing all of the work to run your own system at home , adding a DNS server is n't a big deal .
But that 's really a hobbyist thing to do .
If your home system is primarily for the purpose of getting things done , rather than for playing with systems , it 's an enormous amount of extra work .
Yet having faster DNS lookups is still a win .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That depends on whether you're running a Linux box at home in a "reliable enough" way to be functioning as a server.
And in the example you give, as your primary machine as well.
While I realize that many /.
users do this, I would certainly say that most people don't.I actually stopped doing it several years ago.
I concluded that I have to maintain enough complex systems at work; I don't see any need to be a sysadmin for a complex system that requires nonstop patching and understanding of 30-year-old system internals at home, too.
Plus the desktop environment was frankly primitive compared to modern machines.
So I ditched it and started running OS X.
(And I should say that I'm an experienced Linux sysadmin and engineer professionally, so this was not the "I don't know how to use it and it appears to have been designed by badgers" issue)It's definitely true that, if you're already doing all of the work to run your own system at home, adding a DNS server isn't a big deal.
But that's really a hobbyist thing to do.
If your home system is primarily for the purpose of getting things done, rather than for playing with systems, it's an enormous amount of extra work.
Yet having faster DNS lookups is still a win.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314340</id>
	<title>I guess it is good news...</title>
	<author>ls671</author>
	<datestamp>1259870700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; They also say that (unlike an increasing number of ISPs), Google Public DNS behaves exactly according to the DNS standard.</p><p>Congratulations, this would then be the first free service that I know of which doesn't do redirect !<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p><p>I setup my own DNS but I guess it is a little overkill for the common every day user. Setting your own DNS means you have to go to the network (e.g. internet) less often because your locally hosted DNS caches the already visited sites for a TTL period of time. This is especially true if you have several computers and that they tend to visit the same sites.</p><p>Let me add that if your ISP or firewall intercepts requests to port 53, you will still be stuck with it<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; They also say that ( unlike an increasing number of ISPs ) , Google Public DNS behaves exactly according to the DNS standard.Congratulations , this would then be the first free service that I know of which does n't do redirect !
; - ) I setup my own DNS but I guess it is a little overkill for the common every day user .
Setting your own DNS means you have to go to the network ( e.g .
internet ) less often because your locally hosted DNS caches the already visited sites for a TTL period of time .
This is especially true if you have several computers and that they tend to visit the same sites.Let me add that if your ISP or firewall intercepts requests to port 53 , you will still be stuck with it ; - (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; They also say that (unlike an increasing number of ISPs), Google Public DNS behaves exactly according to the DNS standard.Congratulations, this would then be the first free service that I know of which doesn't do redirect !
;-)I setup my own DNS but I guess it is a little overkill for the common every day user.
Setting your own DNS means you have to go to the network (e.g.
internet) less often because your locally hosted DNS caches the already visited sites for a TTL period of time.
This is especially true if you have several computers and that they tend to visit the same sites.Let me add that if your ISP or firewall intercepts requests to port 53, you will still be stuck with it ;-(</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30314766</id>
	<title>end game in sight</title>
	<author>MrDoh!</author>
	<datestamp>1259872440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So...<br>Google voice first for voice.  Last week Gizmo5 for voip and now rolling out their own DNS?</p><p>Looks like all the infrastructure pieces are in place for the mass change of how cell phones are going to work.</p><p>For years I've wondered why we still have phone numbers.  With address books stored on the phones to map names (hosts) to phone numbers (ip's).<br>With all the phones these days having decent data connections as standard, looks like we're going to get a central way of handling this.<br>So my phone contact will be 'Fred@Domain.com' If I send an email with that address, it gets sent to their mail.  If I make a call to that address, does the DNS lookup, finds out their phone number (that we can re-configure our end to handle calling home phone or cell phone, and with location based rules on an android phone, you'd be able to automate it as you left your house, it lets the phone DNS know to call the cell phone, then as you get to your desk location, remap to office phone for non-personal calls).  All possible as standard.</p><p>We're not going to get phone and choose to have a dataplan, we're going to have phones + dataplans and that's it.<br>telcoms industry HAVE to know this surely?</p><p>(personal wish, as calls are made to someone, there's a quick lookup for capabilities of the device you're calling, then popup the choices to make normal call, send a text, allow the webcam to work, or most importantly, present a URL to an MP3 that's YOUR ringtone, so you can set up a theme tune and as you call people, they hear your tune (as long as they've not turned that off))</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So...Google voice first for voice .
Last week Gizmo5 for voip and now rolling out their own DNS ? Looks like all the infrastructure pieces are in place for the mass change of how cell phones are going to work.For years I 've wondered why we still have phone numbers .
With address books stored on the phones to map names ( hosts ) to phone numbers ( ip 's ) .With all the phones these days having decent data connections as standard , looks like we 're going to get a central way of handling this.So my phone contact will be 'Fred @ Domain.com ' If I send an email with that address , it gets sent to their mail .
If I make a call to that address , does the DNS lookup , finds out their phone number ( that we can re-configure our end to handle calling home phone or cell phone , and with location based rules on an android phone , you 'd be able to automate it as you left your house , it lets the phone DNS know to call the cell phone , then as you get to your desk location , remap to office phone for non-personal calls ) .
All possible as standard.We 're not going to get phone and choose to have a dataplan , we 're going to have phones + dataplans and that 's it.telcoms industry HAVE to know this surely ?
( personal wish , as calls are made to someone , there 's a quick lookup for capabilities of the device you 're calling , then popup the choices to make normal call , send a text , allow the webcam to work , or most importantly , present a URL to an MP3 that 's YOUR ringtone , so you can set up a theme tune and as you call people , they hear your tune ( as long as they 've not turned that off ) )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So...Google voice first for voice.
Last week Gizmo5 for voip and now rolling out their own DNS?Looks like all the infrastructure pieces are in place for the mass change of how cell phones are going to work.For years I've wondered why we still have phone numbers.
With address books stored on the phones to map names (hosts) to phone numbers (ip's).With all the phones these days having decent data connections as standard, looks like we're going to get a central way of handling this.So my phone contact will be 'Fred@Domain.com' If I send an email with that address, it gets sent to their mail.
If I make a call to that address, does the DNS lookup, finds out their phone number (that we can re-configure our end to handle calling home phone or cell phone, and with location based rules on an android phone, you'd be able to automate it as you left your house, it lets the phone DNS know to call the cell phone, then as you get to your desk location, remap to office phone for non-personal calls).
All possible as standard.We're not going to get phone and choose to have a dataplan, we're going to have phones + dataplans and that's it.telcoms industry HAVE to know this surely?
(personal wish, as calls are made to someone, there's a quick lookup for capabilities of the device you're calling, then popup the choices to make normal call, send a text, allow the webcam to work, or most importantly, present a URL to an MP3 that's YOUR ringtone, so you can set up a theme tune and as you call people, they hear your tune (as long as they've not turned that off))</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_03_1814238.30319388</id>
	<title>Ping times</title>
	<author>Frankie70</author>
	<datestamp>1259848380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For me.</p><p>- ISP's DNS server - 23 ms<br>- OpenDNS - 264 ms<br>- Google DNS - 367 ms</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For me.- ISP 's DNS server - 23 ms- OpenDNS - 264 ms- Google DNS - 367 ms</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For me.- ISP's DNS server - 23 ms- OpenDNS - 264 ms- Google DNS - 367 ms</sentencetext>
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