<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_02_2147230</id>
	<title>Best PC DVR Software, For Any Platform?</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1259748480000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>jshamacher writes <i>"I've used MythTV for several years (first on Slackware, now via Mythbuntu) and it's good.  But not great &mdash; I have a list of annoyances as long as my arm.  For example, even 0.22 still has problems playing many DVDs and I frequently have to fall back on Xine.  Since upgrading to new hardware, I've had issues with sound dropping out; these problems only occur for Myth, not for anything else. So now I'm trying out alternatives.  Freevo seemed promising when I tried it a few months ago but it had its own issues.  I'm also increasingly getting pressure from my family to get things like NetFlix streaming working on this machine.  This seems to imply migrating to a Windows-based solution.  I threw XP on it and tried MediaPortal but could never get that to control my Motorola cable box via the IR blaster. So my questions to you:  What DVR software do you use?  Are you happy with it?  What don't you like?  Are there any packages out there that 'just work' as media hubs and for time-shifting cable TV?"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>jshamacher writes " I 've used MythTV for several years ( first on Slackware , now via Mythbuntu ) and it 's good .
But not great    I have a list of annoyances as long as my arm .
For example , even 0.22 still has problems playing many DVDs and I frequently have to fall back on Xine .
Since upgrading to new hardware , I 've had issues with sound dropping out ; these problems only occur for Myth , not for anything else .
So now I 'm trying out alternatives .
Freevo seemed promising when I tried it a few months ago but it had its own issues .
I 'm also increasingly getting pressure from my family to get things like NetFlix streaming working on this machine .
This seems to imply migrating to a Windows-based solution .
I threw XP on it and tried MediaPortal but could never get that to control my Motorola cable box via the IR blaster .
So my questions to you : What DVR software do you use ?
Are you happy with it ?
What do n't you like ?
Are there any packages out there that 'just work ' as media hubs and for time-shifting cable TV ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>jshamacher writes "I've used MythTV for several years (first on Slackware, now via Mythbuntu) and it's good.
But not great — I have a list of annoyances as long as my arm.
For example, even 0.22 still has problems playing many DVDs and I frequently have to fall back on Xine.
Since upgrading to new hardware, I've had issues with sound dropping out; these problems only occur for Myth, not for anything else.
So now I'm trying out alternatives.
Freevo seemed promising when I tried it a few months ago but it had its own issues.
I'm also increasingly getting pressure from my family to get things like NetFlix streaming working on this machine.
This seems to imply migrating to a Windows-based solution.
I threw XP on it and tried MediaPortal but could never get that to control my Motorola cable box via the IR blaster.
So my questions to you:  What DVR software do you use?
Are you happy with it?
What don't you like?
Are there any packages out there that 'just work' as media hubs and for time-shifting cable TV?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306010</id>
	<title>GBPVR for windows</title>
	<author>GoNINzo</author>
	<datestamp>1259589060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been using GBPVR on windows for around 4 some years, and been very happy with it.  It does a great job recording, it does a good job keeping a schedule of reencoding, it works with windows codecs, and it does what a DVR should.  It has a good interface for scheduling, I have it hooked to Schedules Direct, which I pay $20 a year for.   It was easy to install, configure, and hack.   The guy who maintains it does a good job providing a quality product for free.

I highly recommend this product for anyone who's had to deal with the mess of config files on other DVR's.   And it's much better than paying Tivo or whoever $15 a month.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using GBPVR on windows for around 4 some years , and been very happy with it .
It does a great job recording , it does a good job keeping a schedule of reencoding , it works with windows codecs , and it does what a DVR should .
It has a good interface for scheduling , I have it hooked to Schedules Direct , which I pay $ 20 a year for .
It was easy to install , configure , and hack .
The guy who maintains it does a good job providing a quality product for free .
I highly recommend this product for anyone who 's had to deal with the mess of config files on other DVR 's .
And it 's much better than paying Tivo or whoever $ 15 a month .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using GBPVR on windows for around 4 some years, and been very happy with it.
It does a great job recording, it does a good job keeping a schedule of reencoding, it works with windows codecs, and it does what a DVR should.
It has a good interface for scheduling, I have it hooked to Schedules Direct, which I pay $20 a year for.
It was easy to install, configure, and hack.
The guy who maintains it does a good job providing a quality product for free.
I highly recommend this product for anyone who's had to deal with the mess of config files on other DVR's.
And it's much better than paying Tivo or whoever $15 a month.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30309584</id>
	<title>Re:First post! Torrents my friend</title>
	<author>LordSnooty</author>
	<datestamp>1259851920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>1. Still has the problem of how to display the video<br>2. not every single TV programme one would watch in a typical week is torrented, unless you are a mouth-breather.<br> <br>MythTV does have its quirks but it still generally works and in 6 months I've never had a problem so awful that it lost me recordings or schedules. The DVD aspect is probably the weakest point, but for off-the-air recording it's the business. I went through Digital Switchover here in the UK yesterday which required a channel rescan - that could have been smoother, and I did have to dip into the database to repair, but it's such a complex system that I don't expect anything different.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Still has the problem of how to display the video2 .
not every single TV programme one would watch in a typical week is torrented , unless you are a mouth-breather .
MythTV does have its quirks but it still generally works and in 6 months I 've never had a problem so awful that it lost me recordings or schedules .
The DVD aspect is probably the weakest point , but for off-the-air recording it 's the business .
I went through Digital Switchover here in the UK yesterday which required a channel rescan - that could have been smoother , and I did have to dip into the database to repair , but it 's such a complex system that I do n't expect anything different .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Still has the problem of how to display the video2.
not every single TV programme one would watch in a typical week is torrented, unless you are a mouth-breather.
MythTV does have its quirks but it still generally works and in 6 months I've never had a problem so awful that it lost me recordings or schedules.
The DVD aspect is probably the weakest point, but for off-the-air recording it's the business.
I went through Digital Switchover here in the UK yesterday which required a channel rescan - that could have been smoother, and I did have to dip into the database to repair, but it's such a complex system that I don't expect anything different.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304644</id>
	<title>Myth is great ... as backend</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259582520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a Tivo Series 3 with an additional external HD, which is great.  Netflix, Amazon, all integrate well.  Like others who have posted, I have a Myth box which I rarely use as a frontend to capture video to either:</p><p>- watch on PC at my desk or on PC outputting to big TV or on laptop<br>- burn to DVD to watch elsewhere<br>- take advantage of its automatic transcoding to watch on my iPod or Blackberry</p><p>It doesn't have the polished front end the TiVo does, but it does the file manipulation I want without having to go through TiVo's Desktop software (slow, not very automated)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Tivo Series 3 with an additional external HD , which is great .
Netflix , Amazon , all integrate well .
Like others who have posted , I have a Myth box which I rarely use as a frontend to capture video to either : - watch on PC at my desk or on PC outputting to big TV or on laptop- burn to DVD to watch elsewhere- take advantage of its automatic transcoding to watch on my iPod or BlackberryIt does n't have the polished front end the TiVo does , but it does the file manipulation I want without having to go through TiVo 's Desktop software ( slow , not very automated )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Tivo Series 3 with an additional external HD, which is great.
Netflix, Amazon, all integrate well.
Like others who have posted, I have a Myth box which I rarely use as a frontend to capture video to either:- watch on PC at my desk or on PC outputting to big TV or on laptop- burn to DVD to watch elsewhere- take advantage of its automatic transcoding to watch on my iPod or BlackberryIt doesn't have the polished front end the TiVo does, but it does the file manipulation I want without having to go through TiVo's Desktop software (slow, not very automated)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307280</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1259599740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Been there. Did that. Didn't help.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Been there .
Did that .
Did n't help .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Been there.
Did that.
Didn't help.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306090</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307570</id>
	<title>Re:SageTV on XP</title>
	<author>angelbunny</author>
	<datestamp>1259603280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like SageTV except that I have an all-in-wonder HD and sageTV only sees it as an analog device. Ironically, I only want to capture digital.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like SageTV except that I have an all-in-wonder HD and sageTV only sees it as an analog device .
Ironically , I only want to capture digital .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like SageTV except that I have an all-in-wonder HD and sageTV only sees it as an analog device.
Ironically, I only want to capture digital.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305812</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>aztracker1</author>
	<datestamp>1259587800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, it would be nice to see even Moonlight 2 supported for linux users.  The biggest issue with Silverlight/Moonlight is the codecs provided by MS for moonlight don't include their DRM, and I'm guessing that Netflix uses MS's DRM, or their own for device integrators.  They do provide some integration support, my new LG display has Netflix built in, so there must be some ability out there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it would be nice to see even Moonlight 2 supported for linux users .
The biggest issue with Silverlight/Moonlight is the codecs provided by MS for moonlight do n't include their DRM , and I 'm guessing that Netflix uses MS 's DRM , or their own for device integrators .
They do provide some integration support , my new LG display has Netflix built in , so there must be some ability out there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it would be nice to see even Moonlight 2 supported for linux users.
The biggest issue with Silverlight/Moonlight is the codecs provided by MS for moonlight don't include their DRM, and I'm guessing that Netflix uses MS's DRM, or their own for device integrators.
They do provide some integration support, my new LG display has Netflix built in, so there must be some ability out there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307300</id>
	<title>Re:Tivo Warning</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259599920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>this isn't Tivo's doing.   Tivo is just doing the bidding of your cable provider.    I swear they purposely screw up anything that uses cable cards to push their STB rentals.</p><p>I told cox to shove it and went off air and downlaod only.    I couldn't be happier and I can transfer all recordings to any DVR in the house.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>this is n't Tivo 's doing .
Tivo is just doing the bidding of your cable provider .
I swear they purposely screw up anything that uses cable cards to push their STB rentals.I told cox to shove it and went off air and downlaod only .
I could n't be happier and I can transfer all recordings to any DVR in the house .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this isn't Tivo's doing.
Tivo is just doing the bidding of your cable provider.
I swear they purposely screw up anything that uses cable cards to push their STB rentals.I told cox to shove it and went off air and downlaod only.
I couldn't be happier and I can transfer all recordings to any DVR in the house.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304640</id>
	<title>PlayOn or Boxee</title>
	<author>Kildjean</author>
	<datestamp>1259582520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I used to run <a href="http://www.boxee.tv/" title="boxee.tv" rel="nofollow">Boxee</a> [boxee.tv] on my Mac and PC at home, until I discovered  <a href="http://www.playon.tv/index.php" title="playon.tv" rel="nofollow">PlayON</a> [playon.tv].
<p>From <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxee" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxee</a> [wikipedia.org]
</p><p>Boxee is a cross-platform freeware media center software with a 10-foot user interface and social networking features designed for the living-room TV. Boxee is a fork of the free and open source XBMC media center software which Boxee uses as an application framework for its GUI and media player core platform, together with some custom and proprietary additions. Marketed as the first ever "Social Media Center", Boxee enables its users to view, rate and recommend content to their friends through many interactive social networking features. The current version is Alpha but works very well. You can register for free on their website. Also the beta version of Boxee will be released for all platforms on December 7th 2009.</p><p> <a href="http://www.playon.tv/index.php" title="playon.tv" rel="nofollow">PlayOn Media Server</a> [playon.tv]
</p><p>PlayOn gets your favorite Internet Videos off your computer screen and onto your TV. Download and try out PlayOn for free for 14 days. All you need is a home networked PC and a DLNA-compatible device &mdash; like a PLAYSTATION 3, Xbox 360, or Moxi HD DVR.  We've also announced PlayOn for Wii public beta.</p><p> <strong>My Notes:</strong>
</p><p>At home we have two Xbox360's and we stream content to them from PlayOn. From a budget perspective view PlayOn is the way to go if you have consoles at home. PlayOn only costs $39.99 and to configure it its a onetime setup which is pretty straight forward. You can also download free plugins from <a href="http://www.playonplugins.com/" title="playonplugins.com" rel="nofollow">PlayOn Plugins</a> [playonplugins.com]. At my home we currently we use Netflix, Hulu, Cartoon Network and a bunch others). Once you got your settings configured, you go into your console and in the Video section you will see a "Channel" that looks like &quot;yourPCName:Playon&quot; when you select it you will see all the options you configured to watch. It works as advertised and works very well. I have another 360 that got banned in my bedroom with a 36" LCD and it works great.
</p><p>Boxee, I used it for a while, but I never had a PC/Mac dedicated just for that... It is pretty good and there is lots of support... One thing is that Boxee is free.
</p><p>I hope this helps!
</p><p>Kildjean</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to run Boxee [ boxee.tv ] on my Mac and PC at home , until I discovered PlayON [ playon.tv ] .
From http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxee [ wikipedia.org ] Boxee is a cross-platform freeware media center software with a 10-foot user interface and social networking features designed for the living-room TV .
Boxee is a fork of the free and open source XBMC media center software which Boxee uses as an application framework for its GUI and media player core platform , together with some custom and proprietary additions .
Marketed as the first ever " Social Media Center " , Boxee enables its users to view , rate and recommend content to their friends through many interactive social networking features .
The current version is Alpha but works very well .
You can register for free on their website .
Also the beta version of Boxee will be released for all platforms on December 7th 2009 .
PlayOn Media Server [ playon.tv ] PlayOn gets your favorite Internet Videos off your computer screen and onto your TV .
Download and try out PlayOn for free for 14 days .
All you need is a home networked PC and a DLNA-compatible device    like a PLAYSTATION 3 , Xbox 360 , or Moxi HD DVR .
We 've also announced PlayOn for Wii public beta .
My Notes : At home we have two Xbox360 's and we stream content to them from PlayOn .
From a budget perspective view PlayOn is the way to go if you have consoles at home .
PlayOn only costs $ 39.99 and to configure it its a onetime setup which is pretty straight forward .
You can also download free plugins from PlayOn Plugins [ playonplugins.com ] .
At my home we currently we use Netflix , Hulu , Cartoon Network and a bunch others ) .
Once you got your settings configured , you go into your console and in the Video section you will see a " Channel " that looks like " yourPCName : Playon " when you select it you will see all the options you configured to watch .
It works as advertised and works very well .
I have another 360 that got banned in my bedroom with a 36 " LCD and it works great .
Boxee , I used it for a while , but I never had a PC/Mac dedicated just for that... It is pretty good and there is lots of support... One thing is that Boxee is free .
I hope this helps !
Kildjean</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to run Boxee [boxee.tv] on my Mac and PC at home, until I discovered  PlayON [playon.tv].
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxee [wikipedia.org]
Boxee is a cross-platform freeware media center software with a 10-foot user interface and social networking features designed for the living-room TV.
Boxee is a fork of the free and open source XBMC media center software which Boxee uses as an application framework for its GUI and media player core platform, together with some custom and proprietary additions.
Marketed as the first ever "Social Media Center", Boxee enables its users to view, rate and recommend content to their friends through many interactive social networking features.
The current version is Alpha but works very well.
You can register for free on their website.
Also the beta version of Boxee will be released for all platforms on December 7th 2009.
PlayOn Media Server [playon.tv]
PlayOn gets your favorite Internet Videos off your computer screen and onto your TV.
Download and try out PlayOn for free for 14 days.
All you need is a home networked PC and a DLNA-compatible device — like a PLAYSTATION 3, Xbox 360, or Moxi HD DVR.
We've also announced PlayOn for Wii public beta.
My Notes:
At home we have two Xbox360's and we stream content to them from PlayOn.
From a budget perspective view PlayOn is the way to go if you have consoles at home.
PlayOn only costs $39.99 and to configure it its a onetime setup which is pretty straight forward.
You can also download free plugins from PlayOn Plugins [playonplugins.com].
At my home we currently we use Netflix, Hulu, Cartoon Network and a bunch others).
Once you got your settings configured, you go into your console and in the Video section you will see a "Channel" that looks like "yourPCName:Playon" when you select it you will see all the options you configured to watch.
It works as advertised and works very well.
I have another 360 that got banned in my bedroom with a 36" LCD and it works great.
Boxee, I used it for a while, but I never had a PC/Mac dedicated just for that... It is pretty good and there is lots of support... One thing is that Boxee is free.
I hope this helps!
Kildjean</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307778</id>
	<title>Re:WHS + MEDIA CENTER + XBOX 360 = Done</title>
	<author>james\_marsh</author>
	<datestamp>1259606100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WHS + MEDIA CENTER + XBOX 360 + added ambience of the fans screaming away while watching a movie = Fail</p><p>I was full intending to use my (admittedly older generation) XBOX 360 for video playback but the hassle of needing to have a media server transcode video into something the 360 is happy with (and the resulting loss of seeking) and the noise from the fans soon killed that idea.</p><p>For recording UK DVB TV I have a Topfield 5800 - superb bit of kit with two tuners and a USB port allowing you to copy off the raw DVB MPEG2 video files.</p><p>I now use a Popcorn Hour for playback, and while the UI isn't the prettiest ever, its played every video format I've ever tried flawlessly with no interlacing artefacts and no skipping.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WHS + MEDIA CENTER + XBOX 360 + added ambience of the fans screaming away while watching a movie = FailI was full intending to use my ( admittedly older generation ) XBOX 360 for video playback but the hassle of needing to have a media server transcode video into something the 360 is happy with ( and the resulting loss of seeking ) and the noise from the fans soon killed that idea.For recording UK DVB TV I have a Topfield 5800 - superb bit of kit with two tuners and a USB port allowing you to copy off the raw DVB MPEG2 video files.I now use a Popcorn Hour for playback , and while the UI is n't the prettiest ever , its played every video format I 've ever tried flawlessly with no interlacing artefacts and no skipping .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WHS + MEDIA CENTER + XBOX 360 + added ambience of the fans screaming away while watching a movie = FailI was full intending to use my (admittedly older generation) XBOX 360 for video playback but the hassle of needing to have a media server transcode video into something the 360 is happy with (and the resulting loss of seeking) and the noise from the fans soon killed that idea.For recording UK DVB TV I have a Topfield 5800 - superb bit of kit with two tuners and a USB port allowing you to copy off the raw DVB MPEG2 video files.I now use a Popcorn Hour for playback, and while the UI isn't the prettiest ever, its played every video format I've ever tried flawlessly with no interlacing artefacts and no skipping.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304230</id>
	<title>GBPVR with Event Ghost</title>
	<author>Cidolfas</author>
	<datestamp>1259581080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For a year or two, I used GBPVR on windows which was very good for me.  It doesn't do everything - no built-in netflix support - but nothing that couldn't be mitigated by using other programs alongside it.  It is a very stable TV-recording backend.  It should work with your IR blaster, too.
<br> <br>
Even Ghost does very good at letting you control remote control input (basically, you can capture remote input and assign macros to it, including keyboard input) on windows, except for MCE remotes in 7 due to how 7 hijacks MCE remote input.
<br> <br>
As for me, I migrated the other way when Mythbuntu 9.10 came out with MythTv 0.22
<br> <br>
There's just too much I like about the idea of having a single box on 24/7, web accessible, do all my media, web, and computational server needs.  I got HDMI audio working, and that was that.  It's been running pretty well for me so far, though I haven't run into DVD problems yet.  Throw in linux's hulu desktop and I have everything I need.
<br> <br>
Netfix for linux would be awesome though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For a year or two , I used GBPVR on windows which was very good for me .
It does n't do everything - no built-in netflix support - but nothing that could n't be mitigated by using other programs alongside it .
It is a very stable TV-recording backend .
It should work with your IR blaster , too .
Even Ghost does very good at letting you control remote control input ( basically , you can capture remote input and assign macros to it , including keyboard input ) on windows , except for MCE remotes in 7 due to how 7 hijacks MCE remote input .
As for me , I migrated the other way when Mythbuntu 9.10 came out with MythTv 0.22 There 's just too much I like about the idea of having a single box on 24/7 , web accessible , do all my media , web , and computational server needs .
I got HDMI audio working , and that was that .
It 's been running pretty well for me so far , though I have n't run into DVD problems yet .
Throw in linux 's hulu desktop and I have everything I need .
Netfix for linux would be awesome though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a year or two, I used GBPVR on windows which was very good for me.
It doesn't do everything - no built-in netflix support - but nothing that couldn't be mitigated by using other programs alongside it.
It is a very stable TV-recording backend.
It should work with your IR blaster, too.
Even Ghost does very good at letting you control remote control input (basically, you can capture remote input and assign macros to it, including keyboard input) on windows, except for MCE remotes in 7 due to how 7 hijacks MCE remote input.
As for me, I migrated the other way when Mythbuntu 9.10 came out with MythTv 0.22
 
There's just too much I like about the idea of having a single box on 24/7, web accessible, do all my media, web, and computational server needs.
I got HDMI audio working, and that was that.
It's been running pretty well for me so far, though I haven't run into DVD problems yet.
Throw in linux's hulu desktop and I have everything I need.
Netfix for linux would be awesome though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30309604</id>
	<title>Windows 7 Media Center is the best</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259852040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry to say, but Windows Media Center is by far the best PVR available.  It'll handle OTA, Cable, Netflix, Movie collections, etc.  The Windows 7 Media Center is worth the upgrade cost to Windows 7 alone.  I tried Sage TV and MythTV, but they don't even come close.  The best part about Media Center is that it is very user friendly.  It passes the wife and kids test.  Lastly, if you are worried about Netflix quality then get an Xbox 360 and use it for Netflix and as an extender for media center.  Works great for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry to say , but Windows Media Center is by far the best PVR available .
It 'll handle OTA , Cable , Netflix , Movie collections , etc .
The Windows 7 Media Center is worth the upgrade cost to Windows 7 alone .
I tried Sage TV and MythTV , but they do n't even come close .
The best part about Media Center is that it is very user friendly .
It passes the wife and kids test .
Lastly , if you are worried about Netflix quality then get an Xbox 360 and use it for Netflix and as an extender for media center .
Works great for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry to say, but Windows Media Center is by far the best PVR available.
It'll handle OTA, Cable, Netflix, Movie collections, etc.
The Windows 7 Media Center is worth the upgrade cost to Windows 7 alone.
I tried Sage TV and MythTV, but they don't even come close.
The best part about Media Center is that it is very user friendly.
It passes the wife and kids test.
Lastly, if you are worried about Netflix quality then get an Xbox 360 and use it for Netflix and as an extender for media center.
Works great for me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303872</id>
	<title>dividing my HTPC</title>
	<author>funnyguy</author>
	<datestamp>1259579820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm currently in the process of dividing my HTPC frontend into 3 parts.  Instead of settling on Mythfrontend alone, I'm going to run Boxee, XBMC (supports myth:// URLs), and mythfrontend.  Since mythbackend is reliable, I want to keep it to record my OTA shows and cable shows.  But adding Boxee and XBMC to the HTPC frontend will give me support for Netflix and Hulu, better DVD support, etc.  I've been and HTPC user for 5+ years, and no one solution is perfect or ever has been.  I'm hoping the multi-program frontend solution will work best.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm currently in the process of dividing my HTPC frontend into 3 parts .
Instead of settling on Mythfrontend alone , I 'm going to run Boxee , XBMC ( supports myth : // URLs ) , and mythfrontend .
Since mythbackend is reliable , I want to keep it to record my OTA shows and cable shows .
But adding Boxee and XBMC to the HTPC frontend will give me support for Netflix and Hulu , better DVD support , etc .
I 've been and HTPC user for 5 + years , and no one solution is perfect or ever has been .
I 'm hoping the multi-program frontend solution will work best .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm currently in the process of dividing my HTPC frontend into 3 parts.
Instead of settling on Mythfrontend alone, I'm going to run Boxee, XBMC (supports myth:// URLs), and mythfrontend.
Since mythbackend is reliable, I want to keep it to record my OTA shows and cable shows.
But adding Boxee and XBMC to the HTPC frontend will give me support for Netflix and Hulu, better DVD support, etc.
I've been and HTPC user for 5+ years, and no one solution is perfect or ever has been.
I'm hoping the multi-program frontend solution will work best.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30311380</id>
	<title>EyeTV on a Mac</title>
	<author>Proteus</author>
	<datestamp>1259860620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've really been pleased with my media center setup; and my doddering mother-in-law has no difficulties with it either.

<p>I use:</p><ol>
<li>Elgato's EyeTV software, with an Elgato USB tuner card (supports ATSC, ClearQAM, so tunes HD cable channels and FTA HDTV). This gives me my DVR, which dumps ATSC video at full quality without even re-encoding (std. MPEG-2 stream)</li>
<li>FrontRow, which comes with the Mac, to watch DVDs and my media library, including music. Supports anything you can get a QuickTime plugin for (which is almost anything now, even Theora), and can browse media as files *or* in iTunes</li>
<li>Handbrake 0.94 (64bit) for ripping DVDs to media collection. Dealing with encrypted DVDs is made possible through VLC and Fairmount (more or less transparently - again, my mother-in-law does this).</li>
</ol><p>

Other than paying $600 for the Mac Mini itself, the only cost to this was the EyeTV tuner (which came with the DVR software).

Very pleased with this, much better IMHO than my Media Center and MythTV experiences.

I've also played with Boxee on OS X, which does everything pretty well, including netflix/hulu streaming. Very nice, though definitely still beta. At least they seem to be making better progress fixing bugs than the Myth folks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've really been pleased with my media center setup ; and my doddering mother-in-law has no difficulties with it either .
I use : Elgato 's EyeTV software , with an Elgato USB tuner card ( supports ATSC , ClearQAM , so tunes HD cable channels and FTA HDTV ) .
This gives me my DVR , which dumps ATSC video at full quality without even re-encoding ( std .
MPEG-2 stream ) FrontRow , which comes with the Mac , to watch DVDs and my media library , including music .
Supports anything you can get a QuickTime plugin for ( which is almost anything now , even Theora ) , and can browse media as files * or * in iTunes Handbrake 0.94 ( 64bit ) for ripping DVDs to media collection .
Dealing with encrypted DVDs is made possible through VLC and Fairmount ( more or less transparently - again , my mother-in-law does this ) .
Other than paying $ 600 for the Mac Mini itself , the only cost to this was the EyeTV tuner ( which came with the DVR software ) .
Very pleased with this , much better IMHO than my Media Center and MythTV experiences .
I 've also played with Boxee on OS X , which does everything pretty well , including netflix/hulu streaming .
Very nice , though definitely still beta .
At least they seem to be making better progress fixing bugs than the Myth folks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've really been pleased with my media center setup; and my doddering mother-in-law has no difficulties with it either.
I use:
Elgato's EyeTV software, with an Elgato USB tuner card (supports ATSC, ClearQAM, so tunes HD cable channels and FTA HDTV).
This gives me my DVR, which dumps ATSC video at full quality without even re-encoding (std.
MPEG-2 stream)
FrontRow, which comes with the Mac, to watch DVDs and my media library, including music.
Supports anything you can get a QuickTime plugin for (which is almost anything now, even Theora), and can browse media as files *or* in iTunes
Handbrake 0.94 (64bit) for ripping DVDs to media collection.
Dealing with encrypted DVDs is made possible through VLC and Fairmount (more or less transparently - again, my mother-in-law does this).
Other than paying $600 for the Mac Mini itself, the only cost to this was the EyeTV tuner (which came with the DVR software).
Very pleased with this, much better IMHO than my Media Center and MythTV experiences.
I've also played with Boxee on OS X, which does everything pretty well, including netflix/hulu streaming.
Very nice, though definitely still beta.
At least they seem to be making better progress fixing bugs than the Myth folks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304448</id>
	<title>Re:For Linux, MythTV backend and XBMC frontend.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree NetFlix on my XBox 360 is a great experience!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree NetFlix on my XBox 360 is a great experience !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree NetFlix on my XBox 360 is a great experience!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304012</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305382</id>
	<title>Re:For Linux, MythTV backend and XBMC frontend.</title>
	<author>Turtle Master</author>
	<datestamp>1259585580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I run a stripped-down WindowsXP instance in a virtualbox VM on my mythtv box, just for streaming netflix.  It works great.  I just run it full screen on a separate workspace, and switch back and forth with ctrl-alt-left/right.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I run a stripped-down WindowsXP instance in a virtualbox VM on my mythtv box , just for streaming netflix .
It works great .
I just run it full screen on a separate workspace , and switch back and forth with ctrl-alt-left/right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I run a stripped-down WindowsXP instance in a virtualbox VM on my mythtv box, just for streaming netflix.
It works great.
I just run it full screen on a separate workspace, and switch back and forth with ctrl-alt-left/right.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304012</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305678</id>
	<title>Mythbuntu + Boxee</title>
	<author>Ransak</author>
	<datestamp>1259587140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been using Mythbuntu since the 8.x release and it's been pretty reliable for everything you mentioned. Yes, the integrated DVD player sucks by default, but it's trivial to <a href="http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2006-July/141796.html" title="mythtv.org">set up</a> [mythtv.org] Xine for this. I don't use the default MythTV player for anything other than cable recorded content and my family loves it.<p>Integrate <a href="http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=4248" title="boxee.tv">Boxee into MythTV</a> [boxee.tv] and <a href="http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=3385&amp;page=6" title="boxee.tv">stream Netflix</a> [boxee.tv] to it and you have a solution that does just about anything (short of Cable Cards) that anyone could want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using Mythbuntu since the 8.x release and it 's been pretty reliable for everything you mentioned .
Yes , the integrated DVD player sucks by default , but it 's trivial to set up [ mythtv.org ] Xine for this .
I do n't use the default MythTV player for anything other than cable recorded content and my family loves it.Integrate Boxee into MythTV [ boxee.tv ] and stream Netflix [ boxee.tv ] to it and you have a solution that does just about anything ( short of Cable Cards ) that anyone could want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using Mythbuntu since the 8.x release and it's been pretty reliable for everything you mentioned.
Yes, the integrated DVD player sucks by default, but it's trivial to set up [mythtv.org] Xine for this.
I don't use the default MythTV player for anything other than cable recorded content and my family loves it.Integrate Boxee into MythTV [boxee.tv] and stream Netflix [boxee.tv] to it and you have a solution that does just about anything (short of Cable Cards) that anyone could want.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30310106</id>
	<title>Re:SageTV on XP</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1259855460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of the reasons I just put Ubuntu Karmic on my GW LT3103u is that I couldn't get Windows 7 Enterprise's media center crap to associate with my Xbox 360 even when it was plugged into the AP with which the netbook was associated. So, not so robust for me. This was an official install, the trial for IT professionals. I used about 80 of 90 days, but only because I was too busy to reinstall sooner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the reasons I just put Ubuntu Karmic on my GW LT3103u is that I could n't get Windows 7 Enterprise 's media center crap to associate with my Xbox 360 even when it was plugged into the AP with which the netbook was associated .
So , not so robust for me .
This was an official install , the trial for IT professionals .
I used about 80 of 90 days , but only because I was too busy to reinstall sooner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the reasons I just put Ubuntu Karmic on my GW LT3103u is that I couldn't get Windows 7 Enterprise's media center crap to associate with my Xbox 360 even when it was plugged into the AP with which the netbook was associated.
So, not so robust for me.
This was an official install, the trial for IT professionals.
I used about 80 of 90 days, but only because I was too busy to reinstall sooner.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303800</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304688</id>
	<title>I use</title>
	<author>Falconhell</author>
	<datestamp>1259582700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cyberlink power cinema on WInXP, with Gigabyte USB tuner. Works great.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cyberlink power cinema on WInXP , with Gigabyte USB tuner .
Works great .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cyberlink power cinema on WInXP, with Gigabyte USB tuner.
Works great.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30312894</id>
	<title>Re:Tivo Warning</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259865300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've had a completely different experience with the TiVo.  Only shows downloaded over the Internet get marked for DRM. Premium channels and all others except On-Demand can be downloaded.</p><p>My cable operator, the largest in the USA, hasn't bothered with DRM switches in my area. I'm in a metro area with over 5M people. Further, over 100 channels are available in ClearQAM on my system.</p><p>I love my tivo with lifetime support paid in 2003. I love pulling shows off it and building an entertainment library. I'm sorry it doesn't work that way for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've had a completely different experience with the TiVo .
Only shows downloaded over the Internet get marked for DRM .
Premium channels and all others except On-Demand can be downloaded.My cable operator , the largest in the USA , has n't bothered with DRM switches in my area .
I 'm in a metro area with over 5M people .
Further , over 100 channels are available in ClearQAM on my system.I love my tivo with lifetime support paid in 2003 .
I love pulling shows off it and building an entertainment library .
I 'm sorry it does n't work that way for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've had a completely different experience with the TiVo.
Only shows downloaded over the Internet get marked for DRM.
Premium channels and all others except On-Demand can be downloaded.My cable operator, the largest in the USA, hasn't bothered with DRM switches in my area.
I'm in a metro area with over 5M people.
Further, over 100 channels are available in ClearQAM on my system.I love my tivo with lifetime support paid in 2003.
I love pulling shows off it and building an entertainment library.
I'm sorry it doesn't work that way for you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304700</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304906</id>
	<title>Re:SageTV on XP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, I tried setting up mythTV on some linux distro or other, got into dependency hell, and decided that my time is worth money, so I bought SageTV for XP, and use it with a "USBUIRT" IR-transmitter. It works well, although I have found that the interface has gotten slower (this is maybe my 5th year using it) - maybe the database has got clunky...?</p><p>robertcz@gmail.com</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , I tried setting up mythTV on some linux distro or other , got into dependency hell , and decided that my time is worth money , so I bought SageTV for XP , and use it with a " USBUIRT " IR-transmitter .
It works well , although I have found that the interface has gotten slower ( this is maybe my 5th year using it ) - maybe the database has got clunky... ? robertcz @ gmail.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I tried setting up mythTV on some linux distro or other, got into dependency hell, and decided that my time is worth money, so I bought SageTV for XP, and use it with a "USBUIRT" IR-transmitter.
It works well, although I have found that the interface has gotten slower (this is maybe my 5th year using it) - maybe the database has got clunky...?robertcz@gmail.com</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303800</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304002</id>
	<title>HD cable box with pvr</title>
	<author>kawabago</author>
	<datestamp>1259580240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I used to use mythtv but now have upgraded to HD cable box with dual tuner pvr.  It is the best option for ease of use.  Skipping commercials isn't automatic but otherwise I think it is the best price/simplicity option.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to use mythtv but now have upgraded to HD cable box with dual tuner pvr .
It is the best option for ease of use .
Skipping commercials is n't automatic but otherwise I think it is the best price/simplicity option .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to use mythtv but now have upgraded to HD cable box with dual tuner pvr.
It is the best option for ease of use.
Skipping commercials isn't automatic but otherwise I think it is the best price/simplicity option.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30308078</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259610840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Step one: Get large Hard Drives<br>Step two: Download and install XBMC - http://xbmc.org/<br>Step three: Download and Install uTorrent - http://www.utorrent.com/<br>Step four: Visit thepiratebay - http://thepiratebay.org/</p><p>Step five: Enjoy as much commercial free TV shows your heart desires (or your hard drives can store, whichever comes first).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Step one : Get large Hard DrivesStep two : Download and install XBMC - http : //xbmc.org/Step three : Download and Install uTorrent - http : //www.utorrent.com/Step four : Visit thepiratebay - http : //thepiratebay.org/Step five : Enjoy as much commercial free TV shows your heart desires ( or your hard drives can store , whichever comes first ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Step one: Get large Hard DrivesStep two: Download and install XBMC - http://xbmc.org/Step three: Download and Install uTorrent - http://www.utorrent.com/Step four: Visit thepiratebay - http://thepiratebay.org/Step five: Enjoy as much commercial free TV shows your heart desires (or your hard drives can store, whichever comes first).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304036</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259580360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Definitely agree on Windows Media Center.</p><p>With my multiple HDTV tuners, excellent remote, Netflix, and Hulu plugins, and also Internet TV, it's basically irreplaceable. I'm not even mentioning you can stream to multiple Xbox'es on your house over the network... Oops, I mentioned that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Definitely agree on Windows Media Center.With my multiple HDTV tuners , excellent remote , Netflix , and Hulu plugins , and also Internet TV , it 's basically irreplaceable .
I 'm not even mentioning you can stream to multiple Xbox'es on your house over the network... Oops , I mentioned that : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Definitely agree on Windows Media Center.With my multiple HDTV tuners, excellent remote, Netflix, and Hulu plugins, and also Internet TV, it's basically irreplaceable.
I'm not even mentioning you can stream to multiple Xbox'es on your house over the network... Oops, I mentioned that :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303860</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303998</id>
	<title>DVD Recorder with hard drive</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1259580240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I gave up on this and have been using a DVD recorder with a built in hard drive for the last few years. The only hassle is having to program things twice due to lack of built in EPG, but my PVR is now old and I believe there are models that work now with digital EPGs where I live (Australia).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I gave up on this and have been using a DVD recorder with a built in hard drive for the last few years .
The only hassle is having to program things twice due to lack of built in EPG , but my PVR is now old and I believe there are models that work now with digital EPGs where I live ( Australia ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I gave up on this and have been using a DVD recorder with a built in hard drive for the last few years.
The only hassle is having to program things twice due to lack of built in EPG, but my PVR is now old and I believe there are models that work now with digital EPGs where I live (Australia).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30308406</id>
	<title>Make a giant RAID PVR then rip everything</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259833080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Forget about different formats, incompatibilities, clunky or faulty DVD drives etc. Just rip the damn movie as soon as it enters into your house and store it into a big disk array. Today hard drives are cheaper and much safer than DVDR-s, a RAID1 array will safely store hundreds of movies. Then it's just a matter of what player do you like most, for me it's Freevo/mplayer but MythTV has its advantages too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Forget about different formats , incompatibilities , clunky or faulty DVD drives etc .
Just rip the damn movie as soon as it enters into your house and store it into a big disk array .
Today hard drives are cheaper and much safer than DVDR-s , a RAID1 array will safely store hundreds of movies .
Then it 's just a matter of what player do you like most , for me it 's Freevo/mplayer but MythTV has its advantages too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Forget about different formats, incompatibilities, clunky or faulty DVD drives etc.
Just rip the damn movie as soon as it enters into your house and store it into a big disk array.
Today hard drives are cheaper and much safer than DVDR-s, a RAID1 array will safely store hundreds of movies.
Then it's just a matter of what player do you like most, for me it's Freevo/mplayer but MythTV has its advantages too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307150</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>s-orbital</author>
	<datestamp>1259598780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Novell's version of Silverlight has no DRM support, so it's 100\% useless for using with Netflix. Really stinks if you ask me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Novell 's version of Silverlight has no DRM support , so it 's 100 \ % useless for using with Netflix .
Really stinks if you ask me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Novell's version of Silverlight has no DRM support, so it's 100\% useless for using with Netflix.
Really stinks if you ask me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304580</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304388</id>
	<title>Re:It's flexible and that's a problem?</title>
	<author>Rockoon</author>
	<datestamp>1259581620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The <b>terible</b> thing about <b>existing</b> completely open and flexible system is that you <b>have to</b> route around <b>their</b> quirks with other tools.</p></div><p>
There. Fixed that for you.<br>
<br>
[FC]I am Jacks complete lack of tolerance.[/FC]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The terible thing about existing completely open and flexible system is that you have to route around their quirks with other tools .
There. Fixed that for you .
[ FC ] I am Jacks complete lack of tolerance .
[ /FC ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The terible thing about existing completely open and flexible system is that you have to route around their quirks with other tools.
There. Fixed that for you.
[FC]I am Jacks complete lack of tolerance.
[/FC]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303962</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305852</id>
	<title>Re:SageTV on XP</title>
	<author>aztracker1</author>
	<datestamp>1259588040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The TV controls for Windows Media Center are second to none, in regards to PC recording device support (IR blasters etc), but their UI isn't so great for those a bit anal in terms of media management.  for media playback I like Boxee a lot, though MediaPortal and Boxee can be launched from within media center, with some tweaking.</p><p>My biggest issue with media centers currently, is it would me nice to have a multiplatform emulation launcher tied in, so I can run my game emulation straight out of the thing.  All the launchers/emulators I've tried (admittedly it's been a few years) are very cumbersome to even get setup properly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The TV controls for Windows Media Center are second to none , in regards to PC recording device support ( IR blasters etc ) , but their UI is n't so great for those a bit anal in terms of media management .
for media playback I like Boxee a lot , though MediaPortal and Boxee can be launched from within media center , with some tweaking.My biggest issue with media centers currently , is it would me nice to have a multiplatform emulation launcher tied in , so I can run my game emulation straight out of the thing .
All the launchers/emulators I 've tried ( admittedly it 's been a few years ) are very cumbersome to even get setup properly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The TV controls for Windows Media Center are second to none, in regards to PC recording device support (IR blasters etc), but their UI isn't so great for those a bit anal in terms of media management.
for media playback I like Boxee a lot, though MediaPortal and Boxee can be launched from within media center, with some tweaking.My biggest issue with media centers currently, is it would me nice to have a multiplatform emulation launcher tied in, so I can run my game emulation straight out of the thing.
All the launchers/emulators I've tried (admittedly it's been a few years) are very cumbersome to even get setup properly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304840</id>
	<title>Re:Mythbuntu plus</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I second this. The Mythbuntu team has done a great job of packaging things together to work much better than a plain install of MythTV would. And the support they provide via forums and IRC is fantastic.</p><p>Boxee I'm still hesitant on. I still have many issues with the whole app locking up if I leave it running longer than a day or two. Still doesn't play some DVDs and I have to restort to Xine exactly like the OP. I'm hoping the Beta released this month improves things more. It's a great idea that I hope continues growing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I second this .
The Mythbuntu team has done a great job of packaging things together to work much better than a plain install of MythTV would .
And the support they provide via forums and IRC is fantastic.Boxee I 'm still hesitant on .
I still have many issues with the whole app locking up if I leave it running longer than a day or two .
Still does n't play some DVDs and I have to restort to Xine exactly like the OP .
I 'm hoping the Beta released this month improves things more .
It 's a great idea that I hope continues growing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I second this.
The Mythbuntu team has done a great job of packaging things together to work much better than a plain install of MythTV would.
And the support they provide via forums and IRC is fantastic.Boxee I'm still hesitant on.
I still have many issues with the whole app locking up if I leave it running longer than a day or two.
Still doesn't play some DVDs and I have to restort to Xine exactly like the OP.
I'm hoping the Beta released this month improves things more.
It's a great idea that I hope continues growing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304548</id>
	<title>EyeTV for Mac OS X</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259582220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Absolutely. Best. Ever.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Absolutely .
Best. Ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Absolutely.
Best. Ever.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304318</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In general I agree with you but Netflix does support non-windows machines as evidenced by their Roku support and I seriously doubt they're running Silverlight.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In general I agree with you but Netflix does support non-windows machines as evidenced by their Roku support and I seriously doubt they 're running Silverlight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In general I agree with you but Netflix does support non-windows machines as evidenced by their Roku support and I seriously doubt they're running Silverlight.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305084</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>dmorel</author>
	<datestamp>1259584320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Agreed. For what the OP is asking for, any of the HD flavored tivo's is ideal.
Coupled with pytivo you can throw pretty much anything you ever have at it, and when it comes to the best DVR, tivo wins hands down.
There simply is NO (reasonable) argument (that I can think of) to be made disputing that fact. The tivo UI/UX (despite whatever issues one may have with it) is just better than every other option out there.

I've fooled around with everything under the sun starting with the first xbox based xbmc builds up to a win7 MCE HTPC. Fun to mess around with, not fun to rely on long term and add in the WAF and it's over.

I use my tivo's for everything and stopped futzing around with all these other "projects"

Unless of course you get your television from a satellite based provider then... I got nothin'</htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed .
For what the OP is asking for , any of the HD flavored tivo 's is ideal .
Coupled with pytivo you can throw pretty much anything you ever have at it , and when it comes to the best DVR , tivo wins hands down .
There simply is NO ( reasonable ) argument ( that I can think of ) to be made disputing that fact .
The tivo UI/UX ( despite whatever issues one may have with it ) is just better than every other option out there .
I 've fooled around with everything under the sun starting with the first xbox based xbmc builds up to a win7 MCE HTPC .
Fun to mess around with , not fun to rely on long term and add in the WAF and it 's over .
I use my tivo 's for everything and stopped futzing around with all these other " projects " Unless of course you get your television from a satellite based provider then... I got nothin'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed.
For what the OP is asking for, any of the HD flavored tivo's is ideal.
Coupled with pytivo you can throw pretty much anything you ever have at it, and when it comes to the best DVR, tivo wins hands down.
There simply is NO (reasonable) argument (that I can think of) to be made disputing that fact.
The tivo UI/UX (despite whatever issues one may have with it) is just better than every other option out there.
I've fooled around with everything under the sun starting with the first xbox based xbmc builds up to a win7 MCE HTPC.
Fun to mess around with, not fun to rely on long term and add in the WAF and it's over.
I use my tivo's for everything and stopped futzing around with all these other "projects"

Unless of course you get your television from a satellite based provider then... I got nothin'</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30310950</id>
	<title>Windows 7 + custom Web App</title>
	<author>Stregano</author>
	<datestamp>1259859120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I currently use Windows 7 for Media Center and a custom web application that I wrote for "grabbing" streaming movies and tv from places like Hulu.

It has worked great for me so far.

I just used Silverlight (yeah yeah, I know), and wrote a web app that can crawl the big name streaming video sites and get the video out of it and embed it in a web page created on the fly within silverlight, and then it will automatically go to full screen mode to have a TV like effect.  It is not 100\% perfect, but works well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I currently use Windows 7 for Media Center and a custom web application that I wrote for " grabbing " streaming movies and tv from places like Hulu .
It has worked great for me so far .
I just used Silverlight ( yeah yeah , I know ) , and wrote a web app that can crawl the big name streaming video sites and get the video out of it and embed it in a web page created on the fly within silverlight , and then it will automatically go to full screen mode to have a TV like effect .
It is not 100 \ % perfect , but works well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I currently use Windows 7 for Media Center and a custom web application that I wrote for "grabbing" streaming movies and tv from places like Hulu.
It has worked great for me so far.
I just used Silverlight (yeah yeah, I know), and wrote a web app that can crawl the big name streaming video sites and get the video out of it and embed it in a web page created on the fly within silverlight, and then it will automatically go to full screen mode to have a TV like effect.
It is not 100\% perfect, but works well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30314830</id>
	<title>Re:Recording HD?</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1259872740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>4) Capture via HD analog component. That's pretty easy these days.. something like the Blackmagic Intensity Pro is a PCIe 1x card, which can capture analog or HDMI (which would be useless, if your cable company is doing HDCP) in realtime. These run $200, but of course, you'll have to so something with the video on capture. H.264 is going to be a realtime thing, but a fast PC could do MJPEG or Cineform in realtime, if not MPEG-2, more than likely. If they're also downrezzing your analog, then you're SOL with this approach.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>4 ) Capture via HD analog component .
That 's pretty easy these days.. something like the Blackmagic Intensity Pro is a PCIe 1x card , which can capture analog or HDMI ( which would be useless , if your cable company is doing HDCP ) in realtime .
These run $ 200 , but of course , you 'll have to so something with the video on capture .
H.264 is going to be a realtime thing , but a fast PC could do MJPEG or Cineform in realtime , if not MPEG-2 , more than likely .
If they 're also downrezzing your analog , then you 're SOL with this approach .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>4) Capture via HD analog component.
That's pretty easy these days.. something like the Blackmagic Intensity Pro is a PCIe 1x card, which can capture analog or HDMI (which would be useless, if your cable company is doing HDCP) in realtime.
These run $200, but of course, you'll have to so something with the video on capture.
H.264 is going to be a realtime thing, but a fast PC could do MJPEG or Cineform in realtime, if not MPEG-2, more than likely.
If they're also downrezzing your analog, then you're SOL with this approach.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30314666</id>
	<title>Re:What if I don't need recording capability?</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1259871960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I always liked XMMS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I always liked XMMS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always liked XMMS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305808</id>
	<title>Re:Recording HD?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259587740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've used the ATi Digital Cable Tuner with Vista Media Center (that you have to buy through an OEM like Dell or HP). It's great except that stupid CableCARD standard requires egregious DRM on every recorded TV file, preventing me from removing commercials or streaming over Orb.com. I also prefer subscribing to DirecTV instead of Comcast.</p><p>Because of the DRM, I switched to using a Hauppauge HD-PVR with DVBLink feeding it to Windows 7 Media Center. It's terribly slow at changing channels, since it has to dump the previous feed and start transcoding the next...so all the lag of transcoding is compounded with every channel change. I'm trying to set up the guide now so I can watch SD channels over SVideo through a regular tuner card, and my HD channels through the HDPVR/DVBLink.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've used the ATi Digital Cable Tuner with Vista Media Center ( that you have to buy through an OEM like Dell or HP ) .
It 's great except that stupid CableCARD standard requires egregious DRM on every recorded TV file , preventing me from removing commercials or streaming over Orb.com .
I also prefer subscribing to DirecTV instead of Comcast.Because of the DRM , I switched to using a Hauppauge HD-PVR with DVBLink feeding it to Windows 7 Media Center .
It 's terribly slow at changing channels , since it has to dump the previous feed and start transcoding the next...so all the lag of transcoding is compounded with every channel change .
I 'm trying to set up the guide now so I can watch SD channels over SVideo through a regular tuner card , and my HD channels through the HDPVR/DVBLink .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've used the ATi Digital Cable Tuner with Vista Media Center (that you have to buy through an OEM like Dell or HP).
It's great except that stupid CableCARD standard requires egregious DRM on every recorded TV file, preventing me from removing commercials or streaming over Orb.com.
I also prefer subscribing to DirecTV instead of Comcast.Because of the DRM, I switched to using a Hauppauge HD-PVR with DVBLink feeding it to Windows 7 Media Center.
It's terribly slow at changing channels, since it has to dump the previous feed and start transcoding the next...so all the lag of transcoding is compounded with every channel change.
I'm trying to set up the guide now so I can watch SD channels over SVideo through a regular tuner card, and my HD channels through the HDPVR/DVBLink.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30316782</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>Pollardito</author>
	<datestamp>1259836740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder where they are in their product cycle, since that might make buying the lifetime contract less of a good deal.  I bought my parents a Series 2 TiVo a few years back and added the lifetime contract.  They've gotten a lot of good use out of it, and it was definitely worth the money (though it would have been MORE worth the money if they actually gave the rebate they advertised).  But if you switch from one TiVo to another the lifetime contract follows the TiVo, so AFAIK there's no option to upgrade to Series 3 without paying for service again. So if they are going to kick out a Series 4 TiVo with new features anytime soon, it's probably worth waiting.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder where they are in their product cycle , since that might make buying the lifetime contract less of a good deal .
I bought my parents a Series 2 TiVo a few years back and added the lifetime contract .
They 've gotten a lot of good use out of it , and it was definitely worth the money ( though it would have been MORE worth the money if they actually gave the rebate they advertised ) .
But if you switch from one TiVo to another the lifetime contract follows the TiVo , so AFAIK there 's no option to upgrade to Series 3 without paying for service again .
So if they are going to kick out a Series 4 TiVo with new features anytime soon , it 's probably worth waiting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder where they are in their product cycle, since that might make buying the lifetime contract less of a good deal.
I bought my parents a Series 2 TiVo a few years back and added the lifetime contract.
They've gotten a lot of good use out of it, and it was definitely worth the money (though it would have been MORE worth the money if they actually gave the rebate they advertised).
But if you switch from one TiVo to another the lifetime contract follows the TiVo, so AFAIK there's no option to upgrade to Series 3 without paying for service again.
So if they are going to kick out a Series 4 TiVo with new features anytime soon, it's probably worth waiting.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30309488</id>
	<title>Re:SageTV on XP</title>
	<author>Rurik</author>
	<datestamp>1259850960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>SageTV on XP is what I use and love. I've been using it for about two years now and it has a pretty high WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor).  My 5-yr old also uses it with ease to watch all his shows.</p><p>I spent an entire three months fighting with MythTV to get it to operate cleanly, and it was extremely stressful. A friend turned me onto SageTV. After one evening it was setup and I never had to touch it ever again. It just works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>SageTV on XP is what I use and love .
I 've been using it for about two years now and it has a pretty high WAF ( Wife Acceptance Factor ) .
My 5-yr old also uses it with ease to watch all his shows.I spent an entire three months fighting with MythTV to get it to operate cleanly , and it was extremely stressful .
A friend turned me onto SageTV .
After one evening it was setup and I never had to touch it ever again .
It just works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SageTV on XP is what I use and love.
I've been using it for about two years now and it has a pretty high WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor).
My 5-yr old also uses it with ease to watch all his shows.I spent an entire three months fighting with MythTV to get it to operate cleanly, and it was extremely stressful.
A friend turned me onto SageTV.
After one evening it was setup and I never had to touch it ever again.
It just works.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304530</id>
	<title>Consoles</title>
	<author>tciny</author>
	<datestamp>1259582160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why isn't anyone mentioning the consoles?
Both the 360 and PS3 offer Netflix streaming...

The PS3 is a rather capable media player overall... DVD/BluRay, MPEG via DLNA, Netflix, PSN video store, recognises external USB storage so you can play your movies off it etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is n't anyone mentioning the consoles ?
Both the 360 and PS3 offer Netflix streaming.. . The PS3 is a rather capable media player overall... DVD/BluRay , MPEG via DLNA , Netflix , PSN video store , recognises external USB storage so you can play your movies off it etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why isn't anyone mentioning the consoles?
Both the 360 and PS3 offer Netflix streaming...

The PS3 is a rather capable media player overall... DVD/BluRay, MPEG via DLNA, Netflix, PSN video store, recognises external USB storage so you can play your movies off it etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30327288</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>mattprokes</author>
	<datestamp>1259957340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree regarding using windows here. It is a well known fact that the experience windows brings regarding compatibility to media/games has long been sought after. While I am a huge linux fan; and the only windows pc in our house is the MCE, I honestly am not interested in diving into compatibility issues of other systems especially when I know things like moonlight do not work on netflix.

What if I want to play games off of what is basically a PC hooked up to the tv? I would just rather keep it simple, and use the copy of windows that came with my $300 black friday emachine which has MCE. I don't even HAVE to use the MCE, maybe even just VLC - I mean it is just a pc.  I spose if you want a pretty looking thing there is MCE, but for me all I want is a computer desktop on the TV and I will take it from there. If anyone is wondering the logitech diNovo works excellent with this system.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree regarding using windows here .
It is a well known fact that the experience windows brings regarding compatibility to media/games has long been sought after .
While I am a huge linux fan ; and the only windows pc in our house is the MCE , I honestly am not interested in diving into compatibility issues of other systems especially when I know things like moonlight do not work on netflix .
What if I want to play games off of what is basically a PC hooked up to the tv ?
I would just rather keep it simple , and use the copy of windows that came with my $ 300 black friday emachine which has MCE .
I do n't even HAVE to use the MCE , maybe even just VLC - I mean it is just a pc .
I spose if you want a pretty looking thing there is MCE , but for me all I want is a computer desktop on the TV and I will take it from there .
If anyone is wondering the logitech diNovo works excellent with this system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree regarding using windows here.
It is a well known fact that the experience windows brings regarding compatibility to media/games has long been sought after.
While I am a huge linux fan; and the only windows pc in our house is the MCE, I honestly am not interested in diving into compatibility issues of other systems especially when I know things like moonlight do not work on netflix.
What if I want to play games off of what is basically a PC hooked up to the tv?
I would just rather keep it simple, and use the copy of windows that came with my $300 black friday emachine which has MCE.
I don't even HAVE to use the MCE, maybe even just VLC - I mean it is just a pc.
I spose if you want a pretty looking thing there is MCE, but for me all I want is a computer desktop on the TV and I will take it from there.
If anyone is wondering the logitech diNovo works excellent with this system.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304692</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>Kildjean</author>
	<datestamp>1259582700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>you also can use PlayON to stream down Netflix to PS3 and Xbox360... extremely useful if your 360 got banned.</htmltext>
<tokenext>you also can use PlayON to stream down Netflix to PS3 and Xbox360... extremely useful if your 360 got banned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you also can use PlayON to stream down Netflix to PS3 and Xbox360... extremely useful if your 360 got banned.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307812</id>
	<title>Alternatives I use</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259606700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Get a ROKU for Netflix; it's $99 and has EVERY possible connection -- WiFi &amp; Cat5, Coax to HDMI. Great for the bedroom. Simplest remote ever made!<br>2. For digital broadcast, get a SiliconDust which gives you two tuners on your home network, and TotalMedia software (w/scheduler and time-shift) for each Windows box -- hook one up to your HD TV.<br>3. Dump the cable or satellite, and go get http://www.zeevee.com/zinc (Windows or Mac). You should find most of your shows here, plus Netflix movie-browsing &amp; Instant Queue.<br>4. Shows not yet available via ZINC are often available via the show's website, at least for a few weeks after initial broadcast. Only thing I haven't found yet is "Doctor Who".<br>5. Get a Samsung BluRay -- it upconverts DVD, has Netflix and Pandora. Under $200 at Walmart.<br>6. Get the DSI wireless keyboard -- it has MCE controls, a trackball and scrollwheel (w/third mouse button).<br>7. If you want to use Windows Media Center, do NOT use XP/MCE or Vista! The scheduler does not work correct on either -- no sub-channels. Win7 Home Premium is supposed to be fixed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Get a ROKU for Netflix ; it 's $ 99 and has EVERY possible connection -- WiFi &amp; Cat5 , Coax to HDMI .
Great for the bedroom .
Simplest remote ever made ! 2 .
For digital broadcast , get a SiliconDust which gives you two tuners on your home network , and TotalMedia software ( w/scheduler and time-shift ) for each Windows box -- hook one up to your HD TV.3 .
Dump the cable or satellite , and go get http : //www.zeevee.com/zinc ( Windows or Mac ) .
You should find most of your shows here , plus Netflix movie-browsing &amp; Instant Queue.4 .
Shows not yet available via ZINC are often available via the show 's website , at least for a few weeks after initial broadcast .
Only thing I have n't found yet is " Doctor Who " .5 .
Get a Samsung BluRay -- it upconverts DVD , has Netflix and Pandora .
Under $ 200 at Walmart.6 .
Get the DSI wireless keyboard -- it has MCE controls , a trackball and scrollwheel ( w/third mouse button ) .7 .
If you want to use Windows Media Center , do NOT use XP/MCE or Vista !
The scheduler does not work correct on either -- no sub-channels .
Win7 Home Premium is supposed to be fixed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Get a ROKU for Netflix; it's $99 and has EVERY possible connection -- WiFi &amp; Cat5, Coax to HDMI.
Great for the bedroom.
Simplest remote ever made!2.
For digital broadcast, get a SiliconDust which gives you two tuners on your home network, and TotalMedia software (w/scheduler and time-shift) for each Windows box -- hook one up to your HD TV.3.
Dump the cable or satellite, and go get http://www.zeevee.com/zinc (Windows or Mac).
You should find most of your shows here, plus Netflix movie-browsing &amp; Instant Queue.4.
Shows not yet available via ZINC are often available via the show's website, at least for a few weeks after initial broadcast.
Only thing I haven't found yet is "Doctor Who".5.
Get a Samsung BluRay -- it upconverts DVD, has Netflix and Pandora.
Under $200 at Walmart.6.
Get the DSI wireless keyboard -- it has MCE controls, a trackball and scrollwheel (w/third mouse button).7.
If you want to use Windows Media Center, do NOT use XP/MCE or Vista!
The scheduler does not work correct on either -- no sub-channels.
Win7 Home Premium is supposed to be fixed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304554</id>
	<title>Re:For Linux, MythTV backend and XBMC frontend.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259582280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Unfortunately, there's no way you're going to be streaming Netflix movies in Linux, due to Netflix's DRM.  The only way to do it is with a Windows box or using an embedded solution.  I use an Xbox 360 for that.</p></div><p>Then why is there an official NetFlix Plugin for Mythbuntu?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , there 's no way you 're going to be streaming Netflix movies in Linux , due to Netflix 's DRM .
The only way to do it is with a Windows box or using an embedded solution .
I use an Xbox 360 for that.Then why is there an official NetFlix Plugin for Mythbuntu ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, there's no way you're going to be streaming Netflix movies in Linux, due to Netflix's DRM.
The only way to do it is with a Windows box or using an embedded solution.
I use an Xbox 360 for that.Then why is there an official NetFlix Plugin for Mythbuntu?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304012</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306026</id>
	<title>Sagetv is multi OS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you are looking for a program that runs on Windows, Linux or Apple operating systems then Sagetv is it.<br>I use it with Windows Xp and record from 2 SD Directv receivers and 1 HD Directv receiver via HD-PVR. I also capture OTA digital channels.<br>Sagetv also incorporates quite a few online video sources and with a free user created addon can access Netflix, Hulu, and a slew of other feeds via Playon server.<br>There are quite a few other user created addons including Commercial skip. There is also an extender available that works with the Sagetv software or in standalone mode</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you are looking for a program that runs on Windows , Linux or Apple operating systems then Sagetv is it.I use it with Windows Xp and record from 2 SD Directv receivers and 1 HD Directv receiver via HD-PVR .
I also capture OTA digital channels.Sagetv also incorporates quite a few online video sources and with a free user created addon can access Netflix , Hulu , and a slew of other feeds via Playon server.There are quite a few other user created addons including Commercial skip .
There is also an extender available that works with the Sagetv software or in standalone mode</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you are looking for a program that runs on Windows, Linux or Apple operating systems then Sagetv is it.I use it with Windows Xp and record from 2 SD Directv receivers and 1 HD Directv receiver via HD-PVR.
I also capture OTA digital channels.Sagetv also incorporates quite a few online video sources and with a free user created addon can access Netflix, Hulu, and a slew of other feeds via Playon server.There are quite a few other user created addons including Commercial skip.
There is also an extender available that works with the Sagetv software or in standalone mode</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307960</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259608980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you can try to resist<br>try to hide from my kiss<br>but you know<br>but you know that you can't fight the Moonlight</p><p>(v1.0.1 out now at go-mono.com)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you can try to resisttry to hide from my kissbut you knowbut you know that you ca n't fight the Moonlight ( v1.0.1 out now at go-mono.com )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you can try to resisttry to hide from my kissbut you knowbut you know that you can't fight the Moonlight(v1.0.1 out now at go-mono.com)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304112</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30308708</id>
	<title>RSS</title>
	<author>angelbunny</author>
	<datestamp>1259837880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My solution is a bit cheaper and arguably immoral.</p><p>What I do is setup an RSS feed to the TV shows I like and have them auto download. From there I watch everything on my TV/Computer/... all 720p and all drm free so I can do whatever I want with it. Also, most come in before the shows actually air here.</p><p>It isn't that I'm not paying for Cable TV, because I am. I'm paying for the shows I get. I just don't like the idea of not being able to do what I want to do with the content I'm paying for. Maybe one day cable cards will not be so restrictive and then I'll consider another alternative.</p><p>atm I'm quite happy using RSS to auto download everything I want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My solution is a bit cheaper and arguably immoral.What I do is setup an RSS feed to the TV shows I like and have them auto download .
From there I watch everything on my TV/Computer/... all 720p and all drm free so I can do whatever I want with it .
Also , most come in before the shows actually air here.It is n't that I 'm not paying for Cable TV , because I am .
I 'm paying for the shows I get .
I just do n't like the idea of not being able to do what I want to do with the content I 'm paying for .
Maybe one day cable cards will not be so restrictive and then I 'll consider another alternative.atm I 'm quite happy using RSS to auto download everything I want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My solution is a bit cheaper and arguably immoral.What I do is setup an RSS feed to the TV shows I like and have them auto download.
From there I watch everything on my TV/Computer/... all 720p and all drm free so I can do whatever I want with it.
Also, most come in before the shows actually air here.It isn't that I'm not paying for Cable TV, because I am.
I'm paying for the shows I get.
I just don't like the idea of not being able to do what I want to do with the content I'm paying for.
Maybe one day cable cards will not be so restrictive and then I'll consider another alternative.atm I'm quite happy using RSS to auto download everything I want.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306602</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259593620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Moonlight doesn't have the DRM necessary to work with netflix<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Moonlight does n't have the DRM necessary to work with netflix : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Moonlight doesn't have the DRM necessary to work with netflix :(</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304580</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305722</id>
	<title>XBMC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259587380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>XBMC is pretty awesome. http://xbmc.org</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>XBMC is pretty awesome .
http : //xbmc.org</tokentext>
<sentencetext>XBMC is pretty awesome.
http://xbmc.org</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304812</id>
	<title>Beyond TV</title>
	<author>tjb627</author>
	<datestamp>1259583180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have used Snapstream's BeyondTV for years and love it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have used Snapstream 's BeyondTV for years and love it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have used Snapstream's BeyondTV for years and love it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305226</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>mattack2</author>
	<datestamp>1259584920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I was tempted to get the lifetime contract, but instead I'm willing to pay ~$100/year for someone to maintain my DVR for me.</p></div></blockquote><p>I don't understand what you mean here.  There is currently(*) no difference to the end user between someone paying monthly, and someone paying for a lifetime subscription on a particular Tivo.  If you purposely want to spend more to have Tivo making more money, fine.  But other than that, I don't understand why you'd purposely pay more than you have to.</p><p>(*) You could come up with theories that in the future there was some new function that wasn't covered by the existing lifetime subscriptions, but I think that would cause an uproar.  (I personally would pay a one time fee to have a lot of features *improved*, even if they behave as designed now.  But other than that, even as a huge fan of Tivos, I personally always get lifetime subscriptions, since they increase resale value, and they let me calculate my total upfront cost.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was tempted to get the lifetime contract , but instead I 'm willing to pay ~ $ 100/year for someone to maintain my DVR for me.I do n't understand what you mean here .
There is currently ( * ) no difference to the end user between someone paying monthly , and someone paying for a lifetime subscription on a particular Tivo .
If you purposely want to spend more to have Tivo making more money , fine .
But other than that , I do n't understand why you 'd purposely pay more than you have to .
( * ) You could come up with theories that in the future there was some new function that was n't covered by the existing lifetime subscriptions , but I think that would cause an uproar .
( I personally would pay a one time fee to have a lot of features * improved * , even if they behave as designed now .
But other than that , even as a huge fan of Tivos , I personally always get lifetime subscriptions , since they increase resale value , and they let me calculate my total upfront cost .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was tempted to get the lifetime contract, but instead I'm willing to pay ~$100/year for someone to maintain my DVR for me.I don't understand what you mean here.
There is currently(*) no difference to the end user between someone paying monthly, and someone paying for a lifetime subscription on a particular Tivo.
If you purposely want to spend more to have Tivo making more money, fine.
But other than that, I don't understand why you'd purposely pay more than you have to.
(*) You could come up with theories that in the future there was some new function that wasn't covered by the existing lifetime subscriptions, but I think that would cause an uproar.
(I personally would pay a one time fee to have a lot of features *improved*, even if they behave as designed now.
But other than that, even as a huge fan of Tivos, I personally always get lifetime subscriptions, since they increase resale value, and they let me calculate my total upfront cost.
)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304110</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304930</id>
	<title>My Suggestion is SageTV</title>
	<author>alan92rttt</author>
	<datestamp>1259583600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have two PC based DVR's in the house.

I've used several peices of software over the years and Sage TV has been the best. The UI is IMO much easier to use that Win MCE. It has the basic functions(record, play, ff/rw TV) as well as DVD playback, audio, pictures and other Video files. Its audio and video playback is limited to the codecs you have loaded.

Native it will search and stream youtube videos.

Their are several user created addons to enhance the look and feel as well as functions.

Their is a new addon that connects to the playon software that will give you netflix and hulu streams from within sage.

The software can be setup in client/server mode so that all of your cable box's and other hardware can be in another room and you just have either a PC or their media extender in the living room.

It works well with Hauppague's HD-PVR for HD recording from a cable box via the analog HD component out.

www.sagetv.com be sure to check their forums.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have two PC based DVR 's in the house .
I 've used several peices of software over the years and Sage TV has been the best .
The UI is IMO much easier to use that Win MCE .
It has the basic functions ( record , play , ff/rw TV ) as well as DVD playback , audio , pictures and other Video files .
Its audio and video playback is limited to the codecs you have loaded .
Native it will search and stream youtube videos .
Their are several user created addons to enhance the look and feel as well as functions .
Their is a new addon that connects to the playon software that will give you netflix and hulu streams from within sage .
The software can be setup in client/server mode so that all of your cable box 's and other hardware can be in another room and you just have either a PC or their media extender in the living room .
It works well with Hauppague 's HD-PVR for HD recording from a cable box via the analog HD component out .
www.sagetv.com be sure to check their forums .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have two PC based DVR's in the house.
I've used several peices of software over the years and Sage TV has been the best.
The UI is IMO much easier to use that Win MCE.
It has the basic functions(record, play, ff/rw TV) as well as DVD playback, audio, pictures and other Video files.
Its audio and video playback is limited to the codecs you have loaded.
Native it will search and stream youtube videos.
Their are several user created addons to enhance the look and feel as well as functions.
Their is a new addon that connects to the playon software that will give you netflix and hulu streams from within sage.
The software can be setup in client/server mode so that all of your cable box's and other hardware can be in another room and you just have either a PC or their media extender in the living room.
It works well with Hauppague's HD-PVR for HD recording from a cable box via the analog HD component out.
www.sagetv.com be sure to check their forums.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307132</id>
	<title>Re:Recording HD?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259598600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hauppauge HD-DVR will record component HD output from any device - including premium HD channels from any other receiver.  Windows7 Media Center supports it and I've read that an IR blaster is included to change channels on a digital cable box or satellite.</p><p>I have a Hauppauge 950Q USB ATSC/ClearQAM recorder.  Currently, over 100 channels in ClearQAM are received with about 15 in HD which record nicely. There is an issue. The Hauppauge device needs to be disconnected / reconnected every 2 days or so.  Without this reset, nothing gets recorded.</p><p>I have friends that use a Hauppauge 1600 and GB-PVR happily, but I don't know about their HD recording. GB-PVR appears to be an excellent answer, if your tuner is supported.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hauppauge HD-DVR will record component HD output from any device - including premium HD channels from any other receiver .
Windows7 Media Center supports it and I 've read that an IR blaster is included to change channels on a digital cable box or satellite.I have a Hauppauge 950Q USB ATSC/ClearQAM recorder .
Currently , over 100 channels in ClearQAM are received with about 15 in HD which record nicely .
There is an issue .
The Hauppauge device needs to be disconnected / reconnected every 2 days or so .
Without this reset , nothing gets recorded.I have friends that use a Hauppauge 1600 and GB-PVR happily , but I do n't know about their HD recording .
GB-PVR appears to be an excellent answer , if your tuner is supported .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hauppauge HD-DVR will record component HD output from any device - including premium HD channels from any other receiver.
Windows7 Media Center supports it and I've read that an IR blaster is included to change channels on a digital cable box or satellite.I have a Hauppauge 950Q USB ATSC/ClearQAM recorder.
Currently, over 100 channels in ClearQAM are received with about 15 in HD which record nicely.
There is an issue.
The Hauppauge device needs to be disconnected / reconnected every 2 days or so.
Without this reset, nothing gets recorded.I have friends that use a Hauppauge 1600 and GB-PVR happily, but I don't know about their HD recording.
GB-PVR appears to be an excellent answer, if your tuner is supported.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30309992</id>
	<title>Nothing comes close to MythTV feature wise.</title>
	<author>zenyu</author>
	<datestamp>1259854920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You need to be specific about what you actually need in a PVR for anyone to intelligently recommend an alternative for you. The most painless is probably TiVo. Something less feature rich but still configurable would be SageTV and GB-PVR. Easy to set up but probably lacking too many features you crave after using MythTV would be Microsoft's MCE, included in some versions of Windows 7. AFAIK none have time-stretch as so they don't appeal to me, and none allow you to have as many recording devices, nor can they schedule your recordings as well.</p><p>Your MythTV problems can probably be fixed with significantly less pain than switching to any of the alternatives. For the sound problem uninstall pulseaudio. For the DVD problem there is nothing wrong with using Xine or Ogle, there is a reason MythTV can be configured to use external DVD players. There are a number of LIRC configs out there that map your keys so that this is fairly seamless they are configured by default in MythTV distros. For NetFlix streaming get a Roku box or PS3 and use the input switching on your TV; a PS3 can actually see MythTV recordings and play them as well.</p><p>PS I may be biased as a long time user and some time contributor to MythTV. But I am also well aware of it's warts and have given other PVR options a chance. One thing I have not tried is using XBMC as a frontend for MythTV, I just couldn't get that software installed when I attempted to try it.</p><p>PS2 One of the main tasks for 0.23 is to speed up and fix regressions in the mythfrontend UI. Also, simplifying the configuration of audio in general and adding pulseaudio support is being actively worked on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You need to be specific about what you actually need in a PVR for anyone to intelligently recommend an alternative for you .
The most painless is probably TiVo .
Something less feature rich but still configurable would be SageTV and GB-PVR .
Easy to set up but probably lacking too many features you crave after using MythTV would be Microsoft 's MCE , included in some versions of Windows 7 .
AFAIK none have time-stretch as so they do n't appeal to me , and none allow you to have as many recording devices , nor can they schedule your recordings as well.Your MythTV problems can probably be fixed with significantly less pain than switching to any of the alternatives .
For the sound problem uninstall pulseaudio .
For the DVD problem there is nothing wrong with using Xine or Ogle , there is a reason MythTV can be configured to use external DVD players .
There are a number of LIRC configs out there that map your keys so that this is fairly seamless they are configured by default in MythTV distros .
For NetFlix streaming get a Roku box or PS3 and use the input switching on your TV ; a PS3 can actually see MythTV recordings and play them as well.PS I may be biased as a long time user and some time contributor to MythTV .
But I am also well aware of it 's warts and have given other PVR options a chance .
One thing I have not tried is using XBMC as a frontend for MythTV , I just could n't get that software installed when I attempted to try it.PS2 One of the main tasks for 0.23 is to speed up and fix regressions in the mythfrontend UI .
Also , simplifying the configuration of audio in general and adding pulseaudio support is being actively worked on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You need to be specific about what you actually need in a PVR for anyone to intelligently recommend an alternative for you.
The most painless is probably TiVo.
Something less feature rich but still configurable would be SageTV and GB-PVR.
Easy to set up but probably lacking too many features you crave after using MythTV would be Microsoft's MCE, included in some versions of Windows 7.
AFAIK none have time-stretch as so they don't appeal to me, and none allow you to have as many recording devices, nor can they schedule your recordings as well.Your MythTV problems can probably be fixed with significantly less pain than switching to any of the alternatives.
For the sound problem uninstall pulseaudio.
For the DVD problem there is nothing wrong with using Xine or Ogle, there is a reason MythTV can be configured to use external DVD players.
There are a number of LIRC configs out there that map your keys so that this is fairly seamless they are configured by default in MythTV distros.
For NetFlix streaming get a Roku box or PS3 and use the input switching on your TV; a PS3 can actually see MythTV recordings and play them as well.PS I may be biased as a long time user and some time contributor to MythTV.
But I am also well aware of it's warts and have given other PVR options a chance.
One thing I have not tried is using XBMC as a frontend for MythTV, I just couldn't get that software installed when I attempted to try it.PS2 One of the main tasks for 0.23 is to speed up and fix regressions in the mythfrontend UI.
Also, simplifying the configuration of audio in general and adding pulseaudio support is being actively worked on.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30309762</id>
	<title>VDR</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259853300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been using vdr for years now and am very happy with it (small, stable, tons of plugins available). Check out the c't vdr project which has vdr at the centre (obviously) and comes with many of the more popular plugins already pre-installed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using vdr for years now and am very happy with it ( small , stable , tons of plugins available ) .
Check out the c't vdr project which has vdr at the centre ( obviously ) and comes with many of the more popular plugins already pre-installed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using vdr for years now and am very happy with it (small, stable, tons of plugins available).
Check out the c't vdr project which has vdr at the centre (obviously) and comes with many of the more popular plugins already pre-installed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304822</id>
	<title>Mythbuntu 7.10</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got Mythbuntu 7.10 setup perfectly (had to replace some hardware) and I haven't bothered upgrading anything.  It just works.</p><p>I have two pcHDTV tuners to get OTA HD, and Schedules Direct updates the TV guide.  I have had to upgrade the hard drives however.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got Mythbuntu 7.10 setup perfectly ( had to replace some hardware ) and I have n't bothered upgrading anything .
It just works.I have two pcHDTV tuners to get OTA HD , and Schedules Direct updates the TV guide .
I have had to upgrade the hard drives however .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got Mythbuntu 7.10 setup perfectly (had to replace some hardware) and I haven't bothered upgrading anything.
It just works.I have two pcHDTV tuners to get OTA HD, and Schedules Direct updates the TV guide.
I have had to upgrade the hard drives however.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30310332</id>
	<title>Re:Tivo Warning</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259856600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm surprised to hear you say that.  I've only ever run into one show that I couldn't transfer.  50\% of what I record on the TiVo is either transferred to the Tivo in our living room or to my PC (where I then convert it to play on my phone).</p><p>So the shows that you could otherwise grab via antenna (FlashForward, Grey's Anatomy, House, etc) are definitely transferable as you mention.  Shows on USA, Scifi, etc., are almost always transferable (such as Battlestar Galactica, Burn Notice, Psych, Royal Pains).  Come to think of it it was a cooking show that I couldn't transfer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm surprised to hear you say that .
I 've only ever run into one show that I could n't transfer .
50 \ % of what I record on the TiVo is either transferred to the Tivo in our living room or to my PC ( where I then convert it to play on my phone ) .So the shows that you could otherwise grab via antenna ( FlashForward , Grey 's Anatomy , House , etc ) are definitely transferable as you mention .
Shows on USA , Scifi , etc. , are almost always transferable ( such as Battlestar Galactica , Burn Notice , Psych , Royal Pains ) .
Come to think of it it was a cooking show that I could n't transfer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm surprised to hear you say that.
I've only ever run into one show that I couldn't transfer.
50\% of what I record on the TiVo is either transferred to the Tivo in our living room or to my PC (where I then convert it to play on my phone).So the shows that you could otherwise grab via antenna (FlashForward, Grey's Anatomy, House, etc) are definitely transferable as you mention.
Shows on USA, Scifi, etc., are almost always transferable (such as Battlestar Galactica, Burn Notice, Psych, Royal Pains).
Come to think of it it was a cooking show that I couldn't transfer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305168</id>
	<title>Re:SageTV on XP</title>
	<author>RedR</author>
	<datestamp>1259584680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>     I too have to give SageTV a  big thumbs up. I've had it in place for over 5 years now and its been awesome!! I have it running on my main TV with a dedicated box and 5 tuners. It serves two bedroom TV's via a media extender product (via wired network tho wireless is supported too) as well 3 PC's in the house. It supports SD HD DVD (DVD "backups") and quite a bit more. Has support for music, weather and assorted other features that can be added via community packages. It does support changing the channel on STB (Set Top Boxes), as well support having more than one STB. I currently have one using the IRBlaster, and one using USB-&gt;Serial. This setup was fairly quick but did require some research on their forums.

     It is hands on though, and if you want to use any community packages you'll be reading the forums on how-to's. Again mine has been in place for 5+ years, with little effort since then to add new features, or make minor adjustments to storage locations, and setups for it. It uses Java and again for a "stable" production system, I've held back on any automatic updates to the main system. In short, I let the world test out the updates for a week or few before updating my main SageTV box with Windows or Java updates.

     While you are at it, take a look at GBPVR <a href="http://gbpvr.com/" title="gbpvr.com" rel="nofollow">http://gbpvr.com/</a> [gbpvr.com]
Its FREE, so hard not to have a look. It does support many if not all features that SageTV has, including IRBlaster/USB-&gt;Serial to control a STB. My only issue with it 5 years ago was it didn't have as many features as SageTV, including ones I needed at the time. But again, it was and is FREE, so it is well worth checking out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I too have to give SageTV a big thumbs up .
I 've had it in place for over 5 years now and its been awesome ! !
I have it running on my main TV with a dedicated box and 5 tuners .
It serves two bedroom TV 's via a media extender product ( via wired network tho wireless is supported too ) as well 3 PC 's in the house .
It supports SD HD DVD ( DVD " backups " ) and quite a bit more .
Has support for music , weather and assorted other features that can be added via community packages .
It does support changing the channel on STB ( Set Top Boxes ) , as well support having more than one STB .
I currently have one using the IRBlaster , and one using USB- &gt; Serial .
This setup was fairly quick but did require some research on their forums .
It is hands on though , and if you want to use any community packages you 'll be reading the forums on how-to 's .
Again mine has been in place for 5 + years , with little effort since then to add new features , or make minor adjustments to storage locations , and setups for it .
It uses Java and again for a " stable " production system , I 've held back on any automatic updates to the main system .
In short , I let the world test out the updates for a week or few before updating my main SageTV box with Windows or Java updates .
While you are at it , take a look at GBPVR http : //gbpvr.com/ [ gbpvr.com ] Its FREE , so hard not to have a look .
It does support many if not all features that SageTV has , including IRBlaster/USB- &gt; Serial to control a STB .
My only issue with it 5 years ago was it did n't have as many features as SageTV , including ones I needed at the time .
But again , it was and is FREE , so it is well worth checking out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>     I too have to give SageTV a  big thumbs up.
I've had it in place for over 5 years now and its been awesome!!
I have it running on my main TV with a dedicated box and 5 tuners.
It serves two bedroom TV's via a media extender product (via wired network tho wireless is supported too) as well 3 PC's in the house.
It supports SD HD DVD (DVD "backups") and quite a bit more.
Has support for music, weather and assorted other features that can be added via community packages.
It does support changing the channel on STB (Set Top Boxes), as well support having more than one STB.
I currently have one using the IRBlaster, and one using USB-&gt;Serial.
This setup was fairly quick but did require some research on their forums.
It is hands on though, and if you want to use any community packages you'll be reading the forums on how-to's.
Again mine has been in place for 5+ years, with little effort since then to add new features, or make minor adjustments to storage locations, and setups for it.
It uses Java and again for a "stable" production system, I've held back on any automatic updates to the main system.
In short, I let the world test out the updates for a week or few before updating my main SageTV box with Windows or Java updates.
While you are at it, take a look at GBPVR http://gbpvr.com/ [gbpvr.com]
Its FREE, so hard not to have a look.
It does support many if not all features that SageTV has, including IRBlaster/USB-&gt;Serial to control a STB.
My only issue with it 5 years ago was it didn't have as many features as SageTV, including ones I needed at the time.
But again, it was and is FREE, so it is well worth checking out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307458</id>
	<title>Re:There are 3 prime-time PVR's on Windows</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259601840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have been using Beyond TV for about 1 year.  The software is very stable.  I have 2 ATI TV Wonder 650 tuners which occasionally flake and  require reboot in order to recover.  This is despite being plugged into a UPS.  Hardware is a Dell Optiplex 740 (small chasis "cash register).  Am using the Firefly RF remote.  In general we are quite satisfied.  This is with SD analog cable (Charter) and a Samsung 48" LCD HD TV.  HD content is only from separate Blu-Ray player and is not through BTV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have been using Beyond TV for about 1 year .
The software is very stable .
I have 2 ATI TV Wonder 650 tuners which occasionally flake and require reboot in order to recover .
This is despite being plugged into a UPS .
Hardware is a Dell Optiplex 740 ( small chasis " cash register ) .
Am using the Firefly RF remote .
In general we are quite satisfied .
This is with SD analog cable ( Charter ) and a Samsung 48 " LCD HD TV .
HD content is only from separate Blu-Ray player and is not through BTV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have been using Beyond TV for about 1 year.
The software is very stable.
I have 2 ATI TV Wonder 650 tuners which occasionally flake and  require reboot in order to recover.
This is despite being plugged into a UPS.
Hardware is a Dell Optiplex 740 (small chasis "cash register).
Am using the Firefly RF remote.
In general we are quite satisfied.
This is with SD analog cable (Charter) and a Samsung 48" LCD HD TV.
HD content is only from separate Blu-Ray player and is not through BTV.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30308238</id>
	<title>Plex is the best media center software</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259873100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know this doesn't help the OP's search for a good software DVR, but for media center functionality, Plex on Mac OS X is hard to beat. Windows Media Center on Windows 7 is indeed quite good and handily beats things like Apple's Front Row (which is really a bad joke). Plex happens to be even better by a long shot. It is easy to use and navigate, and also does things like pulling in artwork and ratings from IMDB for movies. On my late 2007-rev. Mac mini it even plays 1080p movies pretty well which is quite a feat considering the 1.83GHz Core 2 Duo CPU and anemic GMA950 graphics. The main downside, other than lack of DVR functionality, is that it depends on plugins for things like Hulu and Netflix. Netflix seems to work okay but Hulu, mainly due to Hulu doing everything it can to block applications from accessing it, is flaky at best. For browsing an existing library of video files I have found nothing better, though. Best of all it was very easy to set up.

<br> <br>I don't know how much software DVRs have advanced from when I last messed with a Hauppauge WinTV card 6 years ago, but from what I've read it's still a hair-pulling experience. I even loathed using my cable company's DVR box a couple years ago. Even if it was easy enough to use, it was just a pain to go through and have to select what I want recorded and hoping that the program would fit exactly in the timeslot and that the program's schedule wouldn't change. All too often I ended up with the beginning or end of the program cut off or a football game or something else even though the DVR functioned exactly as it was supposed to. If Hulu can seriously bump up its program selection and comes up with a way for third-party programs to interface with it then I think it may very well be the future of how TV is watched on computers. I don't even care if I have to sit through stupid commercials, I just want to watch what I want when I want to watch it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know this does n't help the OP 's search for a good software DVR , but for media center functionality , Plex on Mac OS X is hard to beat .
Windows Media Center on Windows 7 is indeed quite good and handily beats things like Apple 's Front Row ( which is really a bad joke ) .
Plex happens to be even better by a long shot .
It is easy to use and navigate , and also does things like pulling in artwork and ratings from IMDB for movies .
On my late 2007-rev .
Mac mini it even plays 1080p movies pretty well which is quite a feat considering the 1.83GHz Core 2 Duo CPU and anemic GMA950 graphics .
The main downside , other than lack of DVR functionality , is that it depends on plugins for things like Hulu and Netflix .
Netflix seems to work okay but Hulu , mainly due to Hulu doing everything it can to block applications from accessing it , is flaky at best .
For browsing an existing library of video files I have found nothing better , though .
Best of all it was very easy to set up .
I do n't know how much software DVRs have advanced from when I last messed with a Hauppauge WinTV card 6 years ago , but from what I 've read it 's still a hair-pulling experience .
I even loathed using my cable company 's DVR box a couple years ago .
Even if it was easy enough to use , it was just a pain to go through and have to select what I want recorded and hoping that the program would fit exactly in the timeslot and that the program 's schedule would n't change .
All too often I ended up with the beginning or end of the program cut off or a football game or something else even though the DVR functioned exactly as it was supposed to .
If Hulu can seriously bump up its program selection and comes up with a way for third-party programs to interface with it then I think it may very well be the future of how TV is watched on computers .
I do n't even care if I have to sit through stupid commercials , I just want to watch what I want when I want to watch it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know this doesn't help the OP's search for a good software DVR, but for media center functionality, Plex on Mac OS X is hard to beat.
Windows Media Center on Windows 7 is indeed quite good and handily beats things like Apple's Front Row (which is really a bad joke).
Plex happens to be even better by a long shot.
It is easy to use and navigate, and also does things like pulling in artwork and ratings from IMDB for movies.
On my late 2007-rev.
Mac mini it even plays 1080p movies pretty well which is quite a feat considering the 1.83GHz Core 2 Duo CPU and anemic GMA950 graphics.
The main downside, other than lack of DVR functionality, is that it depends on plugins for things like Hulu and Netflix.
Netflix seems to work okay but Hulu, mainly due to Hulu doing everything it can to block applications from accessing it, is flaky at best.
For browsing an existing library of video files I have found nothing better, though.
Best of all it was very easy to set up.
I don't know how much software DVRs have advanced from when I last messed with a Hauppauge WinTV card 6 years ago, but from what I've read it's still a hair-pulling experience.
I even loathed using my cable company's DVR box a couple years ago.
Even if it was easy enough to use, it was just a pain to go through and have to select what I want recorded and hoping that the program would fit exactly in the timeslot and that the program's schedule wouldn't change.
All too often I ended up with the beginning or end of the program cut off or a football game or something else even though the DVR functioned exactly as it was supposed to.
If Hulu can seriously bump up its program selection and comes up with a way for third-party programs to interface with it then I think it may very well be the future of how TV is watched on computers.
I don't even care if I have to sit through stupid commercials, I just want to watch what I want when I want to watch it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30308224</id>
	<title>Cablecards and DVRs controlling 4 streams</title>
	<author>OCURServant</author>
	<datestamp>1259872800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Its called Windows 7 media center, yes it is a microsux product. Now every pc that meets minimum specs can run the ATI DCT (digital cable tuners) with cablecards by running the digital cable advisor. This allows you to easily setup a four tuner dvr which will allow you to share tv shows with other PCs running windows and also stream live feeds plus recorded shows to extenders. With the new firmware of the ATI tuners (1.19) the shows are no longer encrypted unless specified by the network. In my area San Francisco bay area even showtime and hbo are not encrypted. If a show is you can still stream it to the extenders without a problem you just can not share it with other PCs. So yes you can have a four tuner HD dvr for a monthly cost of nothing, since S cards (a type of cablecard) are free in my area (SF comcast) it beats paying 20 bucks a month for the comcast two tuner DVR imo. If you want more info check thegreenbutton.com (a microsoft supported site).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its called Windows 7 media center , yes it is a microsux product .
Now every pc that meets minimum specs can run the ATI DCT ( digital cable tuners ) with cablecards by running the digital cable advisor .
This allows you to easily setup a four tuner dvr which will allow you to share tv shows with other PCs running windows and also stream live feeds plus recorded shows to extenders .
With the new firmware of the ATI tuners ( 1.19 ) the shows are no longer encrypted unless specified by the network .
In my area San Francisco bay area even showtime and hbo are not encrypted .
If a show is you can still stream it to the extenders without a problem you just can not share it with other PCs .
So yes you can have a four tuner HD dvr for a monthly cost of nothing , since S cards ( a type of cablecard ) are free in my area ( SF comcast ) it beats paying 20 bucks a month for the comcast two tuner DVR imo .
If you want more info check thegreenbutton.com ( a microsoft supported site ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its called Windows 7 media center, yes it is a microsux product.
Now every pc that meets minimum specs can run the ATI DCT (digital cable tuners) with cablecards by running the digital cable advisor.
This allows you to easily setup a four tuner dvr which will allow you to share tv shows with other PCs running windows and also stream live feeds plus recorded shows to extenders.
With the new firmware of the ATI tuners (1.19) the shows are no longer encrypted unless specified by the network.
In my area San Francisco bay area even showtime and hbo are not encrypted.
If a show is you can still stream it to the extenders without a problem you just can not share it with other PCs.
So yes you can have a four tuner HD dvr for a monthly cost of nothing, since S cards (a type of cablecard) are free in my area (SF comcast) it beats paying 20 bucks a month for the comcast two tuner DVR imo.
If you want more info check thegreenbutton.com (a microsoft supported site).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307932</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>MojoRilla</author>
	<datestamp>1259608740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Very important consideration is the amount of power your DVR will draw.  A Tivo HD uses 34 watts.  Most PCs (especially considering the Tivo HD sells for $250) will use more than that.
<br> <br>
So you need to factor power savings in when you price a Tivo.
<br> <br>
Also, there are virtually no HD solutions on computers.  HD is <i>wonderful</i>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Very important consideration is the amount of power your DVR will draw .
A Tivo HD uses 34 watts .
Most PCs ( especially considering the Tivo HD sells for $ 250 ) will use more than that .
So you need to factor power savings in when you price a Tivo .
Also , there are virtually no HD solutions on computers .
HD is wonderful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very important consideration is the amount of power your DVR will draw.
A Tivo HD uses 34 watts.
Most PCs (especially considering the Tivo HD sells for $250) will use more than that.
So you need to factor power savings in when you price a Tivo.
Also, there are virtually no HD solutions on computers.
HD is wonderful.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30312916</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>meustrus</author>
	<datestamp>1259865360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What would you rather they use? Flash? That doesn't work well in Linux either. There is no one-size-fits-all solution. That's why rather than using Flash and trying to support any device with a web browser (mobile browsers and game consoles don't usually support Flash very well either) they make special applications on platforms where it's worth their while, and use Silverlight elsewhere. Silverlight works on PC and Mac, so they've covered 99\% of the market already, with a solution that I find preferable to Flash (possibly only because I like the underdog software, and ironically Microsoft is the underdog compared to Adobe with Flash).

Maybe HTML 5 will solve all our problems. But then, maybe we'll never actually get to see full HTML 5 implementation (hell, IE only got to CSS 2.0 with the most recent version, 8, and there's no chance of seeing CSS 3.0 features commonly accessible from multiple browsers).</htmltext>
<tokenext>What would you rather they use ?
Flash ? That does n't work well in Linux either .
There is no one-size-fits-all solution .
That 's why rather than using Flash and trying to support any device with a web browser ( mobile browsers and game consoles do n't usually support Flash very well either ) they make special applications on platforms where it 's worth their while , and use Silverlight elsewhere .
Silverlight works on PC and Mac , so they 've covered 99 \ % of the market already , with a solution that I find preferable to Flash ( possibly only because I like the underdog software , and ironically Microsoft is the underdog compared to Adobe with Flash ) .
Maybe HTML 5 will solve all our problems .
But then , maybe we 'll never actually get to see full HTML 5 implementation ( hell , IE only got to CSS 2.0 with the most recent version , 8 , and there 's no chance of seeing CSS 3.0 features commonly accessible from multiple browsers ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What would you rather they use?
Flash? That doesn't work well in Linux either.
There is no one-size-fits-all solution.
That's why rather than using Flash and trying to support any device with a web browser (mobile browsers and game consoles don't usually support Flash very well either) they make special applications on platforms where it's worth their while, and use Silverlight elsewhere.
Silverlight works on PC and Mac, so they've covered 99\% of the market already, with a solution that I find preferable to Flash (possibly only because I like the underdog software, and ironically Microsoft is the underdog compared to Adobe with Flash).
Maybe HTML 5 will solve all our problems.
But then, maybe we'll never actually get to see full HTML 5 implementation (hell, IE only got to CSS 2.0 with the most recent version, 8, and there's no chance of seeing CSS 3.0 features commonly accessible from multiple browsers).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306898</id>
	<title>Moonlight does not work with Netflix</title>
	<author>C0deM0nkey</author>
	<datestamp>1259596260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Moonlight is not the answer to the Netflix streaming video problem.  I've got Moonlight 1.0.1 installed (been looking for a way to stream video to my linux box from Netflix) and here is what you get from Netflix when you try to stream a movie:<blockquote><div><p>Watching instantly on your computer

Our apologies &mdash; streaming is not supported for your operating system.

Note that your current Internet browser is fully compatible with adding titles to the Instant Queue for later watching on compatible devices.
Complete System Requirements

To watch instantly, you'll need a computer that meets the following minimum requirements:

    * Windows
          o Windows XP with Service Pack 2, or Vista
          o Internet Explorer 6.0 or higher; or Firefox 2 or higher
          o 1.2 GHz processor
          o 512 MB RAM
    * Mac
          o An Intel-based Mac with OS 10.4.8 or later
          o Safari 3 or higher; or Firefox 2 or higher
          o 1 GB RAM</p></div>
</blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Moonlight is not the answer to the Netflix streaming video problem .
I 've got Moonlight 1.0.1 installed ( been looking for a way to stream video to my linux box from Netflix ) and here is what you get from Netflix when you try to stream a movie : Watching instantly on your computer Our apologies    streaming is not supported for your operating system .
Note that your current Internet browser is fully compatible with adding titles to the Instant Queue for later watching on compatible devices .
Complete System Requirements To watch instantly , you 'll need a computer that meets the following minimum requirements : * Windows o Windows XP with Service Pack 2 , or Vista o Internet Explorer 6.0 or higher ; or Firefox 2 or higher o 1.2 GHz processor o 512 MB RAM * Mac o An Intel-based Mac with OS 10.4.8 or later o Safari 3 or higher ; or Firefox 2 or higher o 1 GB RAM</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Moonlight is not the answer to the Netflix streaming video problem.
I've got Moonlight 1.0.1 installed (been looking for a way to stream video to my linux box from Netflix) and here is what you get from Netflix when you try to stream a movie:Watching instantly on your computer

Our apologies — streaming is not supported for your operating system.
Note that your current Internet browser is fully compatible with adding titles to the Instant Queue for later watching on compatible devices.
Complete System Requirements

To watch instantly, you'll need a computer that meets the following minimum requirements:

    * Windows
          o Windows XP with Service Pack 2, or Vista
          o Internet Explorer 6.0 or higher; or Firefox 2 or higher
          o 1.2 GHz processor
          o 512 MB RAM
    * Mac
          o An Intel-based Mac with OS 10.4.8 or later
          o Safari 3 or higher; or Firefox 2 or higher
          o 1 GB RAM

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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305426</id>
	<title>Mythbuntu &amp; HDMI</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259585820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well on the subject of MythBuntu &amp; HDMI audio may I just say the following.</p><p>Arrrgghhhhhh !!!!!</p><p>Trying to get it to work is like plaiting fog.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well on the subject of MythBuntu &amp; HDMI audio may I just say the following.Arrrgghhhhhh ! ! ! !
! Trying to get it to work is like plaiting fog .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well on the subject of MythBuntu &amp; HDMI audio may I just say the following.Arrrgghhhhhh !!!!
!Trying to get it to work is like plaiting fog.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30310764</id>
	<title>Plex and MythTV on a Mac</title>
	<author>GlobalEcho</author>
	<datestamp>1259858400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>MythTV, especially v0.22, is really an awesome DVR but I agree it doesn't do a great job of providing the rest of the media center experience.  I've been happy, though, using <a href="http://www.plexapp.com/" title="plexapp.com">Plex</a> [plexapp.com] media center and Myth on a Mac Mini, which of course has no problem with DVDs.  (Blu-ray is a thornier issue).</p><p>You can read a little more about my setup and experiences <a href="http://public.boonstra.org/MacMiniHTPCSetup.html" title="boonstra.org">here</a> [boonstra.org].</p><p>I think the real modern tragedy is the encrypted channels on cable and satellite: no decent HD PVR solution is possible any longer for these media.   My solution was to fire the satellite company and go broadcast only.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>MythTV , especially v0.22 , is really an awesome DVR but I agree it does n't do a great job of providing the rest of the media center experience .
I 've been happy , though , using Plex [ plexapp.com ] media center and Myth on a Mac Mini , which of course has no problem with DVDs .
( Blu-ray is a thornier issue ) .You can read a little more about my setup and experiences here [ boonstra.org ] .I think the real modern tragedy is the encrypted channels on cable and satellite : no decent HD PVR solution is possible any longer for these media .
My solution was to fire the satellite company and go broadcast only .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MythTV, especially v0.22, is really an awesome DVR but I agree it doesn't do a great job of providing the rest of the media center experience.
I've been happy, though, using Plex [plexapp.com] media center and Myth on a Mac Mini, which of course has no problem with DVDs.
(Blu-ray is a thornier issue).You can read a little more about my setup and experiences here [boonstra.org].I think the real modern tragedy is the encrypted channels on cable and satellite: no decent HD PVR solution is possible any longer for these media.
My solution was to fire the satellite company and go broadcast only.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30310010</id>
	<title>Interesting...</title>
	<author>GameboyRMH</author>
	<datestamp>1259854980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's non-free ($40US) Windows-only software but it serves NetFlix over your LAN via DLNA/uPnP...
<br> <br>
<a href="http://www.playon.tv/playon/how-it-works" title="playon.tv">http://www.playon.tv/playon/how-it-works</a> [playon.tv]
<br> <br>
A tidy, secure-ish and affordable (if you use XP) solution might be to install it on a Windows VM running on your Linux server...one box still does all the serving and if the Windows VM gets pwned, you just bring it back from a backup in minutes. The VM will have a separate IP via its virtual network adapter so it shouldn't conflict with the host box. DRM might be an issue too but this could be a workable solution if you really want NetFlix in a non-Windows environment...</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's non-free ( $ 40US ) Windows-only software but it serves NetFlix over your LAN via DLNA/uPnP.. . http : //www.playon.tv/playon/how-it-works [ playon.tv ] A tidy , secure-ish and affordable ( if you use XP ) solution might be to install it on a Windows VM running on your Linux server...one box still does all the serving and if the Windows VM gets pwned , you just bring it back from a backup in minutes .
The VM will have a separate IP via its virtual network adapter so it should n't conflict with the host box .
DRM might be an issue too but this could be a workable solution if you really want NetFlix in a non-Windows environment.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's non-free ($40US) Windows-only software but it serves NetFlix over your LAN via DLNA/uPnP...
 
http://www.playon.tv/playon/how-it-works [playon.tv]
 
A tidy, secure-ish and affordable (if you use XP) solution might be to install it on a Windows VM running on your Linux server...one box still does all the serving and if the Windows VM gets pwned, you just bring it back from a backup in minutes.
The VM will have a separate IP via its virtual network adapter so it shouldn't conflict with the host box.
DRM might be an issue too but this could be a workable solution if you really want NetFlix in a non-Windows environment...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304112</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259580660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This doesn't solve the Netflix issue.  Netflix is in bed with Microsoft and delivers using Silverlight 2.</p><p>It doesn't make any kind of sense that a business would deploy any solution using Silverlight, but whatever.  I've whined about this before and obviously Netflix doesn't care.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This does n't solve the Netflix issue .
Netflix is in bed with Microsoft and delivers using Silverlight 2.It does n't make any kind of sense that a business would deploy any solution using Silverlight , but whatever .
I 've whined about this before and obviously Netflix does n't care .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This doesn't solve the Netflix issue.
Netflix is in bed with Microsoft and delivers using Silverlight 2.It doesn't make any kind of sense that a business would deploy any solution using Silverlight, but whatever.
I've whined about this before and obviously Netflix doesn't care.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303784</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304684</id>
	<title>Re:XBMC or WDTV or Boxee</title>
	<author>ichthus</author>
	<datestamp>1259582640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been using XBMC 9.11 beta 1 for a little over a week, and I absolutely love it.  I built a cheap HTPC with no hard drive -- I boot from an SD card in about 30 seconds, but usually just suspend and resume.
<br> <br>
It doesn't have DVR capability, but I have decided to rely on torrents.  Torrents are better for a number of reasons, the main one being the fact that networks don't always start and end their shows at the scheduled time.  In this day and age, that's ridiculous.  (Some may question the legality of torrenting TV shows, but I would argue that they're analogous to having a friend record a show to VHS and then pass it onto me.)
<br> <br>
Anyway, XMBC is awesome.  I'm looking forward to the 9.11 release, but the current beta has been very stable.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using XBMC 9.11 beta 1 for a little over a week , and I absolutely love it .
I built a cheap HTPC with no hard drive -- I boot from an SD card in about 30 seconds , but usually just suspend and resume .
It does n't have DVR capability , but I have decided to rely on torrents .
Torrents are better for a number of reasons , the main one being the fact that networks do n't always start and end their shows at the scheduled time .
In this day and age , that 's ridiculous .
( Some may question the legality of torrenting TV shows , but I would argue that they 're analogous to having a friend record a show to VHS and then pass it onto me .
) Anyway , XMBC is awesome .
I 'm looking forward to the 9.11 release , but the current beta has been very stable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using XBMC 9.11 beta 1 for a little over a week, and I absolutely love it.
I built a cheap HTPC with no hard drive -- I boot from an SD card in about 30 seconds, but usually just suspend and resume.
It doesn't have DVR capability, but I have decided to rely on torrents.
Torrents are better for a number of reasons, the main one being the fact that networks don't always start and end their shows at the scheduled time.
In this day and age, that's ridiculous.
(Some may question the legality of torrenting TV shows, but I would argue that they're analogous to having a friend record a show to VHS and then pass it onto me.
)
 
Anyway, XMBC is awesome.
I'm looking forward to the 9.11 release, but the current beta has been very stable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305698</id>
	<title>GB-PVR</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259587260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use GB PVR (free, not opensource) on a windows xp box with several Hauppauge tuner cards (both analog and digital).  It works reasonably well on some old cannibalized motherboard I had lying around and put into a really nice quiet case, plus it streams recorded content on the net with a built in web server.  I have a Hauppauge MediaMVP on a wireless bridge to watch standard def in the guest bedroom; in other rooms TV can be on the computer monitor.</p><p>I do have to exit GBPVR to watch Netflix movies using Firefox, but I have reprogrammed the Hauppauge remote (easy) to start up FF and go to netflix.  I still find a gyro air mouse indispensable for choosing which Netflix movie from my instant queue however.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use GB PVR ( free , not opensource ) on a windows xp box with several Hauppauge tuner cards ( both analog and digital ) .
It works reasonably well on some old cannibalized motherboard I had lying around and put into a really nice quiet case , plus it streams recorded content on the net with a built in web server .
I have a Hauppauge MediaMVP on a wireless bridge to watch standard def in the guest bedroom ; in other rooms TV can be on the computer monitor.I do have to exit GBPVR to watch Netflix movies using Firefox , but I have reprogrammed the Hauppauge remote ( easy ) to start up FF and go to netflix .
I still find a gyro air mouse indispensable for choosing which Netflix movie from my instant queue however .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use GB PVR (free, not opensource) on a windows xp box with several Hauppauge tuner cards (both analog and digital).
It works reasonably well on some old cannibalized motherboard I had lying around and put into a really nice quiet case, plus it streams recorded content on the net with a built in web server.
I have a Hauppauge MediaMVP on a wireless bridge to watch standard def in the guest bedroom; in other rooms TV can be on the computer monitor.I do have to exit GBPVR to watch Netflix movies using Firefox, but I have reprogrammed the Hauppauge remote (easy) to start up FF and go to netflix.
I still find a gyro air mouse indispensable for choosing which Netflix movie from my instant queue however.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304260</id>
	<title>Mythbuntu plus</title>
	<author>ericrost</author>
	<datestamp>1259581140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I run mythbuntu with a boxee launch item in the main menu. Mythbuntu works flawlessly for capturing media and playing it back, boxee does everything else flawlessly. FTW!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I run mythbuntu with a boxee launch item in the main menu .
Mythbuntu works flawlessly for capturing media and playing it back , boxee does everything else flawlessly .
FTW !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I run mythbuntu with a boxee launch item in the main menu.
Mythbuntu works flawlessly for capturing media and playing it back, boxee does everything else flawlessly.
FTW!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304616</id>
	<title>Popcorn Hour?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259582460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm currently a Tivo Series 3 user (Works awesome and basically zero maintenance, other than the monthly fee and a very occasional spontaneous reboot--???!!!)<br>--That said, I've been keeping an eye on the Popcorn hour boxes...http://www.popcornhour.com<br>--Looks like it plays all the media you can throw at it, and toss in a blue-ray drive and you can even watch those-<br>It supports a Huge laundry list of features, but it looks like the one thing it doesn't actually do is the DVR of actual tv streams...  Anyone know of any updates in that area?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm currently a Tivo Series 3 user ( Works awesome and basically zero maintenance , other than the monthly fee and a very occasional spontaneous reboot-- ? ? ? ! ! !
) --That said , I 've been keeping an eye on the Popcorn hour boxes...http : //www.popcornhour.com--Looks like it plays all the media you can throw at it , and toss in a blue-ray drive and you can even watch those-It supports a Huge laundry list of features , but it looks like the one thing it does n't actually do is the DVR of actual tv streams... Anyone know of any updates in that area ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm currently a Tivo Series 3 user (Works awesome and basically zero maintenance, other than the monthly fee and a very occasional spontaneous reboot--???!!!
)--That said, I've been keeping an eye on the Popcorn hour boxes...http://www.popcornhour.com--Looks like it plays all the media you can throw at it, and toss in a blue-ray drive and you can even watch those-It supports a Huge laundry list of features, but it looks like the one thing it doesn't actually do is the DVR of actual tv streams...  Anyone know of any updates in that area?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304012</id>
	<title>For Linux, MythTV backend and XBMC frontend.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259580300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The MythTV backend for recording TV is great, but the frontend is very rough around the edges, even after years of development.  As a general media center, XBMC is fantastic; its support for playing DVDs, video files, and music is the best I've found on Linux.  There's also a <a href="http://code.google.com/p/mythbox/" title="google.com">plugin for XBMC</a> [google.com] that gives it functionality as a MythTV frontend, and while it doesn't have quite the same range of capabilities as the official MythTV frontend, it nonetheless works well.</p><p>Unfortunately, there's no way you're going to be streaming Netflix movies in Linux, due to Netflix's DRM.  The only way to do it is with a Windows box or using an embedded solution.  I use an Xbox 360 for that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The MythTV backend for recording TV is great , but the frontend is very rough around the edges , even after years of development .
As a general media center , XBMC is fantastic ; its support for playing DVDs , video files , and music is the best I 've found on Linux .
There 's also a plugin for XBMC [ google.com ] that gives it functionality as a MythTV frontend , and while it does n't have quite the same range of capabilities as the official MythTV frontend , it nonetheless works well.Unfortunately , there 's no way you 're going to be streaming Netflix movies in Linux , due to Netflix 's DRM .
The only way to do it is with a Windows box or using an embedded solution .
I use an Xbox 360 for that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The MythTV backend for recording TV is great, but the frontend is very rough around the edges, even after years of development.
As a general media center, XBMC is fantastic; its support for playing DVDs, video files, and music is the best I've found on Linux.
There's also a plugin for XBMC [google.com] that gives it functionality as a MythTV frontend, and while it doesn't have quite the same range of capabilities as the official MythTV frontend, it nonetheless works well.Unfortunately, there's no way you're going to be streaming Netflix movies in Linux, due to Netflix's DRM.
The only way to do it is with a Windows box or using an embedded solution.
I use an Xbox 360 for that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306550</id>
	<title>Orb.com</title>
	<author>b00tleg</author>
	<datestamp>1259593200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Orb.com works for me.  Runs on windows, sees my hauppauge PVR-250 on Vista Home.  It runs an agent in the background, you access "your pc" via mycast.orb.com.  From there you can stream mp3s, photos, and an interactive tv guide that lets you watch live channels, set to record shows, or watch previously recorded ones.  No ports have to be opened on your router.  It tests your bandwidth automatically and has a mobile browser layout that I can stream on my touch pro 2.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Orb.com works for me .
Runs on windows , sees my hauppauge PVR-250 on Vista Home .
It runs an agent in the background , you access " your pc " via mycast.orb.com .
From there you can stream mp3s , photos , and an interactive tv guide that lets you watch live channels , set to record shows , or watch previously recorded ones .
No ports have to be opened on your router .
It tests your bandwidth automatically and has a mobile browser layout that I can stream on my touch pro 2 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Orb.com works for me.
Runs on windows, sees my hauppauge PVR-250 on Vista Home.
It runs an agent in the background, you access "your pc" via mycast.orb.com.
From there you can stream mp3s, photos, and an interactive tv guide that lets you watch live channels, set to record shows, or watch previously recorded ones.
No ports have to be opened on your router.
It tests your bandwidth automatically and has a mobile browser layout that I can stream on my touch pro 2.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305718</id>
	<title>Nero LiquidTV</title>
	<author>MBCook</author>
	<datestamp>1259587320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've had TiVos for years and years and years. I have a Series 3 now. I love it.
</p><p>But if you want a truly PC based solution, how about <a href="http://www.tivo.com/buytivo/tivogear/software/neroliquidtv\_tivopc.html" title="tivo.com">Nero LiquidTV</a> [tivo.com]? It is basically the official PC version of the TiVo software. It still needs a TiVo subscription, but it has all the features and the same <i>fantastic</i> interface.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've had TiVos for years and years and years .
I have a Series 3 now .
I love it .
But if you want a truly PC based solution , how about Nero LiquidTV [ tivo.com ] ?
It is basically the official PC version of the TiVo software .
It still needs a TiVo subscription , but it has all the features and the same fantastic interface .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've had TiVos for years and years and years.
I have a Series 3 now.
I love it.
But if you want a truly PC based solution, how about Nero LiquidTV [tivo.com]?
It is basically the official PC version of the TiVo software.
It still needs a TiVo subscription, but it has all the features and the same fantastic interface.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305798</id>
	<title>Re:Recording HD?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259587740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use SageTV with an HDHomerun and 1 HD-PVR.<br>The HDHomerun has a dual tuner that picks up the clear QAM channels.  Not a lot but all the network stuff.<br>The HD-PVR is hooked up to the comcast cablebox via component and optical.  I have it recording 720p with digital audio.<br>SageTV takes a little tweaking but support is good.  The HD-PVR is not as reliable as the HDHomerun but it's okay and the quality seems good.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use SageTV with an HDHomerun and 1 HD-PVR.The HDHomerun has a dual tuner that picks up the clear QAM channels .
Not a lot but all the network stuff.The HD-PVR is hooked up to the comcast cablebox via component and optical .
I have it recording 720p with digital audio.SageTV takes a little tweaking but support is good .
The HD-PVR is not as reliable as the HDHomerun but it 's okay and the quality seems good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use SageTV with an HDHomerun and 1 HD-PVR.The HDHomerun has a dual tuner that picks up the clear QAM channels.
Not a lot but all the network stuff.The HD-PVR is hooked up to the comcast cablebox via component and optical.
I have it recording 720p with digital audio.SageTV takes a little tweaking but support is good.
The HD-PVR is not as reliable as the HDHomerun but it's okay and the quality seems good.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306358</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259591700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;- It also passes "the wife" test.</p><p>You sure you're not talking about MythTV?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; - It also passes " the wife " test.You sure you 're not talking about MythTV ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;- It also passes "the wife" test.You sure you're not talking about MythTV?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306074</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>mr\_zorg</author>
	<datestamp>1259589360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>TiVo also has a PC based solution (LiquidTV) now through a partnership with Nero.  <a href="http://www.tivo.com/buytivo/tivogear/software/neroliquidtv\_tivopc.html" title="tivo.com">Check it out...</a> [tivo.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>TiVo also has a PC based solution ( LiquidTV ) now through a partnership with Nero .
Check it out... [ tivo.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TiVo also has a PC based solution (LiquidTV) now through a partnership with Nero.
Check it out... [tivo.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305264</id>
	<title>Re:Recording HD?</title>
	<author>mpapet</author>
	<datestamp>1259585160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>#2 is what I do using Mythtv.</p><p>#3 will only work in Windows, but only work poorly, as Microsoft's DRM prevents them from fully functioning.</p><p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2006/11/8300.ars" title="arstechnica.com">http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2006/11/8300.ars</a> [arstechnica.com]</p><p><a href="http://www.geektonic.com/2009/05/cablecard-tuner-hack-for-diy-vista-and.html" title="geektonic.com">http://www.geektonic.com/2009/05/cablecard-tuner-hack-for-diy-vista-and.html</a> [geektonic.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext># 2 is what I do using Mythtv. # 3 will only work in Windows , but only work poorly , as Microsoft 's DRM prevents them from fully functioning.http : //arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2006/11/8300.ars [ arstechnica.com ] http : //www.geektonic.com/2009/05/cablecard-tuner-hack-for-diy-vista-and.html [ geektonic.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>#2 is what I do using Mythtv.#3 will only work in Windows, but only work poorly, as Microsoft's DRM prevents them from fully functioning.http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2006/11/8300.ars [arstechnica.com]http://www.geektonic.com/2009/05/cablecard-tuner-hack-for-diy-vista-and.html [geektonic.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304726</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259582820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got Windows 7 Media center running with a Linksys Media Center Extender.</p><p>On the positive side, It Just Works.  Having a paperback sized MCE (cheap on Ebay, BTW)  next to the big-screen rather than a PC is very nice.</p><p>On the negative side, Microsoft keeps trying so hard to prevent users from doing what they'd like.<br>For example, they changed to the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.wtv file format late in the Vista cycle, which broke things like dvrmstoolbox that was used for commercial skipping, and had no desire to help fix it.  That's fixed by the community now, of course.</p><p>They also broke ripped DVD playback on the extender.  For the Vista media center, it was found that by creating a hard link to the DVD files (and giving the hard link a ".mp4" (IIRC) extension), DVD's would play fine on the extender.  With Windows 7, sorry, but that workaround has been disabled.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got Windows 7 Media center running with a Linksys Media Center Extender.On the positive side , It Just Works .
Having a paperback sized MCE ( cheap on Ebay , BTW ) next to the big-screen rather than a PC is very nice.On the negative side , Microsoft keeps trying so hard to prevent users from doing what they 'd like.For example , they changed to the .wtv file format late in the Vista cycle , which broke things like dvrmstoolbox that was used for commercial skipping , and had no desire to help fix it .
That 's fixed by the community now , of course.They also broke ripped DVD playback on the extender .
For the Vista media center , it was found that by creating a hard link to the DVD files ( and giving the hard link a " .mp4 " ( IIRC ) extension ) , DVD 's would play fine on the extender .
With Windows 7 , sorry , but that workaround has been disabled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got Windows 7 Media center running with a Linksys Media Center Extender.On the positive side, It Just Works.
Having a paperback sized MCE (cheap on Ebay, BTW)  next to the big-screen rather than a PC is very nice.On the negative side, Microsoft keeps trying so hard to prevent users from doing what they'd like.For example, they changed to the .wtv file format late in the Vista cycle, which broke things like dvrmstoolbox that was used for commercial skipping, and had no desire to help fix it.
That's fixed by the community now, of course.They also broke ripped DVD playback on the extender.
For the Vista media center, it was found that by creating a hard link to the DVD files (and giving the hard link a ".mp4" (IIRC) extension), DVD's would play fine on the extender.
With Windows 7, sorry, but that workaround has been disabled.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303860</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306174</id>
	<title>Re:For Linux, MythTV backend and XBMC frontend.</title>
	<author>7-Vodka</author>
	<datestamp>1259590140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whatever solution you choose, including xmbc, make sure you use a wiimote as a controller. It's mad cool.
<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMIHRZK1Lrk" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMIHRZK1Lrk</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whatever solution you choose , including xmbc , make sure you use a wiimote as a controller .
It 's mad cool .
http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = rMIHRZK1Lrk [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whatever solution you choose, including xmbc, make sure you use a wiimote as a controller.
It's mad cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMIHRZK1Lrk [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304012</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304338</id>
	<title>Recording HD?</title>
	<author>rlp</author>
	<datestamp>1259581440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While we're on the topic - is there a good solution for recording HD from cable?  I'm currently using analog cable with a Hauppauge card to record programs in standard definition. Potential solutions:</p><p>1) DVR from cable company.  Problems: I've gotten anecdotal information that these DVR's have poorly designed UI's and tend to be somewhat flaky (worse than Windows).  Also, they are a closed system, I can't move the recording to a mobile device for portable viewing.<br>2) PC + HD ATSC / Clear-QAM tuner card - this gives me the ability to record over the air broadcasts and cable channels that support Clear-QAM (which is a fairly small subset of cable channels).<br>3) PC + HD Tuner Card + Cable Card - does anyone make one of these?  Anyone have any experience with this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While we 're on the topic - is there a good solution for recording HD from cable ?
I 'm currently using analog cable with a Hauppauge card to record programs in standard definition .
Potential solutions : 1 ) DVR from cable company .
Problems : I 've gotten anecdotal information that these DVR 's have poorly designed UI 's and tend to be somewhat flaky ( worse than Windows ) .
Also , they are a closed system , I ca n't move the recording to a mobile device for portable viewing.2 ) PC + HD ATSC / Clear-QAM tuner card - this gives me the ability to record over the air broadcasts and cable channels that support Clear-QAM ( which is a fairly small subset of cable channels ) .3 ) PC + HD Tuner Card + Cable Card - does anyone make one of these ?
Anyone have any experience with this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While we're on the topic - is there a good solution for recording HD from cable?
I'm currently using analog cable with a Hauppauge card to record programs in standard definition.
Potential solutions:1) DVR from cable company.
Problems: I've gotten anecdotal information that these DVR's have poorly designed UI's and tend to be somewhat flaky (worse than Windows).
Also, they are a closed system, I can't move the recording to a mobile device for portable viewing.2) PC + HD ATSC / Clear-QAM tuner card - this gives me the ability to record over the air broadcasts and cable channels that support Clear-QAM (which is a fairly small subset of cable channels).3) PC + HD Tuner Card + Cable Card - does anyone make one of these?
Anyone have any experience with this?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305206</id>
	<title>TiVo HD</title>
	<author>markdavis</author>
	<datestamp>1259584860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My solution wasn't software at all.  I just went with a TiVo HD.  Dual tuner, dual cable card, over-the-air recording, cable recording, HD, SD, Netflix streaming, YouTube, Amazon, season passes, automatic listings, fantastic remote control, remote access, the list goes on and on.</p><p>The fact that it runs Linux is interesting, but doesn't really matter one way or the other.  The box just "works" and it works very well.  It should certainly be in the list of anyones' comparisons to messing with software solutions...  although there is a service fee, it is less than a typical premium channel; and the box is far cheaper than anything one could ever put together on their own.</p><p>Is it perfect?  Of course not.  I am very picky and have my own list of things that need to be improved or fixed.  But when I compare it to anything else out there, it always seems to come out on top, by far.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My solution was n't software at all .
I just went with a TiVo HD .
Dual tuner , dual cable card , over-the-air recording , cable recording , HD , SD , Netflix streaming , YouTube , Amazon , season passes , automatic listings , fantastic remote control , remote access , the list goes on and on.The fact that it runs Linux is interesting , but does n't really matter one way or the other .
The box just " works " and it works very well .
It should certainly be in the list of anyones ' comparisons to messing with software solutions... although there is a service fee , it is less than a typical premium channel ; and the box is far cheaper than anything one could ever put together on their own.Is it perfect ?
Of course not .
I am very picky and have my own list of things that need to be improved or fixed .
But when I compare it to anything else out there , it always seems to come out on top , by far .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My solution wasn't software at all.
I just went with a TiVo HD.
Dual tuner, dual cable card, over-the-air recording, cable recording, HD, SD, Netflix streaming, YouTube, Amazon, season passes, automatic listings, fantastic remote control, remote access, the list goes on and on.The fact that it runs Linux is interesting, but doesn't really matter one way or the other.
The box just "works" and it works very well.
It should certainly be in the list of anyones' comparisons to messing with software solutions...  although there is a service fee, it is less than a typical premium channel; and the box is far cheaper than anything one could ever put together on their own.Is it perfect?
Of course not.
I am very picky and have my own list of things that need to be improved or fixed.
But when I compare it to anything else out there, it always seems to come out on top, by far.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306012</id>
	<title>Re:For Linux, MythTV backend and XBMC frontend.</title>
	<author>MrNemesis</author>
	<datestamp>1259589060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have to echo this, especially since my TV habits have moved away from watching most of the crap I taped off TV and instead watching stuff I've ripped from my DVD's.</p><p>Been using Myth since 2002/2003 so I'm no novice (still using the same DB I had in late 2004 - certainly been fun keeping that in sync with upgrades!) and it's a really nice recording platform once you've spent a year or two of hair loss exploring it's foibles. But the frontend is poor; very little in the way of swish or eye candy... yet still painfully slow. Both those aspects have improved massively with 0.22, but the XBMC frontend is bling on toast. And the default skin, PM3, is much nicer than anything I've run into for Myth (flashy bit minimalist at the same time, YMMV), you don't even need a decent graphics card - my bedroom unit runs off an Intel G31 and drives a 1920x1200 screen, and even 1080p H.264 isn't a problem.</p><p>But BY FAR the biggest clincher for me was the automated movie/TV lookups in XBMC. I have about 900 movies and 3000 or so TV episodes, and if you want metadata lookups in MythTV be prepared to spend an eternity bringing up a sub-menu and searching for metadata (after adding the series and episode numbers manually which it somehow can't figure out automatically). In XBMC you add a movie or TV show, and every time it starts (or is triggered manually) it'll walk down your tree and pick up metadata, including pretty pictures, automatically from themoviedb or thetvdb (or any of the other grabbers you'd like to use). This alone saved me DAYS importing collections; the only caveats are that a) I had to write a custom regexp for XBMC to recognise my filename convention and b) it sometimes picks the wrong film/show, but that's easy enough to fix manually.</p><p>XBMC's biggest failing in my book is remote support. There's built in stuff, but if you have a non-standard remote you need to write your own config files (yes, multiple files) - and to me this was one of the most counter-intuitive and badly documented procedures I've ever done in my history with computers. Thankfully most of the rest of the doco for XBMC is much clearer, and IMHO much more informative than similar stuff for Myth.</p><p>XBMC getting ported to Linux was the best thing that happened to my media centre. Faster than mythfrontend and, to me and my techie and non-techie flatmates, much more intuitive in use - even setting up 5.1 over SPDIF was a snap compared to Myth.</p><p>I'd recommend anyone looking into a good PVR mashup on Linux to investigate mythbackend + XBMC as a possible combo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have to echo this , especially since my TV habits have moved away from watching most of the crap I taped off TV and instead watching stuff I 've ripped from my DVD 's.Been using Myth since 2002/2003 so I 'm no novice ( still using the same DB I had in late 2004 - certainly been fun keeping that in sync with upgrades !
) and it 's a really nice recording platform once you 've spent a year or two of hair loss exploring it 's foibles .
But the frontend is poor ; very little in the way of swish or eye candy... yet still painfully slow .
Both those aspects have improved massively with 0.22 , but the XBMC frontend is bling on toast .
And the default skin , PM3 , is much nicer than anything I 've run into for Myth ( flashy bit minimalist at the same time , YMMV ) , you do n't even need a decent graphics card - my bedroom unit runs off an Intel G31 and drives a 1920x1200 screen , and even 1080p H.264 is n't a problem.But BY FAR the biggest clincher for me was the automated movie/TV lookups in XBMC .
I have about 900 movies and 3000 or so TV episodes , and if you want metadata lookups in MythTV be prepared to spend an eternity bringing up a sub-menu and searching for metadata ( after adding the series and episode numbers manually which it somehow ca n't figure out automatically ) .
In XBMC you add a movie or TV show , and every time it starts ( or is triggered manually ) it 'll walk down your tree and pick up metadata , including pretty pictures , automatically from themoviedb or thetvdb ( or any of the other grabbers you 'd like to use ) .
This alone saved me DAYS importing collections ; the only caveats are that a ) I had to write a custom regexp for XBMC to recognise my filename convention and b ) it sometimes picks the wrong film/show , but that 's easy enough to fix manually.XBMC 's biggest failing in my book is remote support .
There 's built in stuff , but if you have a non-standard remote you need to write your own config files ( yes , multiple files ) - and to me this was one of the most counter-intuitive and badly documented procedures I 've ever done in my history with computers .
Thankfully most of the rest of the doco for XBMC is much clearer , and IMHO much more informative than similar stuff for Myth.XBMC getting ported to Linux was the best thing that happened to my media centre .
Faster than mythfrontend and , to me and my techie and non-techie flatmates , much more intuitive in use - even setting up 5.1 over SPDIF was a snap compared to Myth.I 'd recommend anyone looking into a good PVR mashup on Linux to investigate mythbackend + XBMC as a possible combo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have to echo this, especially since my TV habits have moved away from watching most of the crap I taped off TV and instead watching stuff I've ripped from my DVD's.Been using Myth since 2002/2003 so I'm no novice (still using the same DB I had in late 2004 - certainly been fun keeping that in sync with upgrades!
) and it's a really nice recording platform once you've spent a year or two of hair loss exploring it's foibles.
But the frontend is poor; very little in the way of swish or eye candy... yet still painfully slow.
Both those aspects have improved massively with 0.22, but the XBMC frontend is bling on toast.
And the default skin, PM3, is much nicer than anything I've run into for Myth (flashy bit minimalist at the same time, YMMV), you don't even need a decent graphics card - my bedroom unit runs off an Intel G31 and drives a 1920x1200 screen, and even 1080p H.264 isn't a problem.But BY FAR the biggest clincher for me was the automated movie/TV lookups in XBMC.
I have about 900 movies and 3000 or so TV episodes, and if you want metadata lookups in MythTV be prepared to spend an eternity bringing up a sub-menu and searching for metadata (after adding the series and episode numbers manually which it somehow can't figure out automatically).
In XBMC you add a movie or TV show, and every time it starts (or is triggered manually) it'll walk down your tree and pick up metadata, including pretty pictures, automatically from themoviedb or thetvdb (or any of the other grabbers you'd like to use).
This alone saved me DAYS importing collections; the only caveats are that a) I had to write a custom regexp for XBMC to recognise my filename convention and b) it sometimes picks the wrong film/show, but that's easy enough to fix manually.XBMC's biggest failing in my book is remote support.
There's built in stuff, but if you have a non-standard remote you need to write your own config files (yes, multiple files) - and to me this was one of the most counter-intuitive and badly documented procedures I've ever done in my history with computers.
Thankfully most of the rest of the doco for XBMC is much clearer, and IMHO much more informative than similar stuff for Myth.XBMC getting ported to Linux was the best thing that happened to my media centre.
Faster than mythfrontend and, to me and my techie and non-techie flatmates, much more intuitive in use - even setting up 5.1 over SPDIF was a snap compared to Myth.I'd recommend anyone looking into a good PVR mashup on Linux to investigate mythbackend + XBMC as a possible combo.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307282</id>
	<title>Re:There are 3 prime-time PVR's on Windows</title>
	<author>matthelm007</author>
	<datestamp>1259599800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Missed points I've caught so far on SageTV:

SageTV runs on Windows, Linux or Mac.

I currently have 4 QAM (1 HDHomerun and 1 HVR-2250, with 2 tuners each) tuners on my system, and they work fine.  The HDHR is MUCH easier to set up than the 2250.  My currently system has 5 tuners: HDHR, 2250, and a WinTV-HD PVR.  Never had a bit of trouble, other then when I mess with it.  Been using SageTV for about 5 years, and I'm currently supporting 3 recording systems (mine, my dad's (he's 76) and my cousins)

SageTV can also record ATSC  (over the air HD)

SageTV (on a Windoze box) and it's extender will play almost any file format you can throw at it.

It's being continuously updated, and if you have a problem that is in there software (not driver or system) you get a direct connection to the devs.  About the only problem I've heard, is that sending them a file (like a section of a HD file) can sometimes be a pain, but that's mainly the lack of file editors, and email limits!  Oh, and they have a great and active forums group, that can help  with the little bumps.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Missed points I 've caught so far on SageTV : SageTV runs on Windows , Linux or Mac .
I currently have 4 QAM ( 1 HDHomerun and 1 HVR-2250 , with 2 tuners each ) tuners on my system , and they work fine .
The HDHR is MUCH easier to set up than the 2250 .
My currently system has 5 tuners : HDHR , 2250 , and a WinTV-HD PVR .
Never had a bit of trouble , other then when I mess with it .
Been using SageTV for about 5 years , and I 'm currently supporting 3 recording systems ( mine , my dad 's ( he 's 76 ) and my cousins ) SageTV can also record ATSC ( over the air HD ) SageTV ( on a Windoze box ) and it 's extender will play almost any file format you can throw at it .
It 's being continuously updated , and if you have a problem that is in there software ( not driver or system ) you get a direct connection to the devs .
About the only problem I 've heard , is that sending them a file ( like a section of a HD file ) can sometimes be a pain , but that 's mainly the lack of file editors , and email limits !
Oh , and they have a great and active forums group , that can help with the little bumps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Missed points I've caught so far on SageTV:

SageTV runs on Windows, Linux or Mac.
I currently have 4 QAM (1 HDHomerun and 1 HVR-2250, with 2 tuners each) tuners on my system, and they work fine.
The HDHR is MUCH easier to set up than the 2250.
My currently system has 5 tuners: HDHR, 2250, and a WinTV-HD PVR.
Never had a bit of trouble, other then when I mess with it.
Been using SageTV for about 5 years, and I'm currently supporting 3 recording systems (mine, my dad's (he's 76) and my cousins)

SageTV can also record ATSC  (over the air HD)

SageTV (on a Windoze box) and it's extender will play almost any file format you can throw at it.
It's being continuously updated, and if you have a problem that is in there software (not driver or system) you get a direct connection to the devs.
About the only problem I've heard, is that sending them a file (like a section of a HD file) can sometimes be a pain, but that's mainly the lack of file editors, and email limits!
Oh, and they have a great and active forums group, that can help  with the little bumps.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30309338</id>
	<title>Mac Mini with Eye TV is the way to go!</title>
	<author>migglelon</author>
	<datestamp>1259848860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Get a Mac Mini with EyeTV (e.g. get an EyeTV Hybrid).  That's the best combo ever.  Works as a great DVR.  You also have a full computer, can surf the web, etc. You can launch Firefox and play Netflix no problem, do it all of the time.  Has front row which is awesome, you can simply launch iTunes and play movies, TV shows, etc.  And the best part is you are up and running from day 1, nothing to configure, the software just works and is intuitive.  The apple remote is fine for a lot of things but I also recommend a Logitech diNovo Edge keyboard.  You want a bluetooth keyboard.  Other wireless keyboards don't have the range, you can't sit on your couch on the other side of the room and control things, but bluetooth keyboards can work at that distance no problem.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Get a Mac Mini with EyeTV ( e.g .
get an EyeTV Hybrid ) .
That 's the best combo ever .
Works as a great DVR .
You also have a full computer , can surf the web , etc .
You can launch Firefox and play Netflix no problem , do it all of the time .
Has front row which is awesome , you can simply launch iTunes and play movies , TV shows , etc .
And the best part is you are up and running from day 1 , nothing to configure , the software just works and is intuitive .
The apple remote is fine for a lot of things but I also recommend a Logitech diNovo Edge keyboard .
You want a bluetooth keyboard .
Other wireless keyboards do n't have the range , you ca n't sit on your couch on the other side of the room and control things , but bluetooth keyboards can work at that distance no problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get a Mac Mini with EyeTV (e.g.
get an EyeTV Hybrid).
That's the best combo ever.
Works as a great DVR.
You also have a full computer, can surf the web, etc.
You can launch Firefox and play Netflix no problem, do it all of the time.
Has front row which is awesome, you can simply launch iTunes and play movies, TV shows, etc.
And the best part is you are up and running from day 1, nothing to configure, the software just works and is intuitive.
The apple remote is fine for a lot of things but I also recommend a Logitech diNovo Edge keyboard.
You want a bluetooth keyboard.
Other wireless keyboards don't have the range, you can't sit on your couch on the other side of the room and control things, but bluetooth keyboards can work at that distance no problem.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30310130</id>
	<title>WMC Kicking Apple's Ass?</title>
	<author>StCredZero</author>
	<datestamp>1259855580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All of these votes for Windows Media Center.  Seems like Microsoft is doing it all, in software, while Apple is running a distant 2nd or 3rd with an integrated hardware/software solution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All of these votes for Windows Media Center .
Seems like Microsoft is doing it all , in software , while Apple is running a distant 2nd or 3rd with an integrated hardware/software solution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All of these votes for Windows Media Center.
Seems like Microsoft is doing it all, in software, while Apple is running a distant 2nd or 3rd with an integrated hardware/software solution.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304140</id>
	<title>Windows 7 and Media Browser</title>
	<author>Laoping</author>
	<datestamp>1259580780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In years past I've used XBMC on the Xbox and Linux, then more recently Boxee and MediaPortal. I started wanting something that just worked, and was a bit easier to setup. I really like many of the Linux media programs, but they do take a bit of maintenance. So when the RC of Windows 7 came out I figured I'd give it a go. Once I found Media Browser (www.mediabrowser.tv), I was sold.</p><p>So reasons I think Windows 7 is the way to go.</p><p>1. Media Browser - Fantastic plug-in for media center. Almost as good as XMBC in it's prettiness and useability. Very impressive to show off to your friends and high Wife Acceptance Factor.<br>2. Easy - It took me about a week of fiddling after work to get it setup the way I wanted.. and I had no issues getting DTS HD or pass-through audio to work. Very easy to get hardware accelerated video to work with ATI. If you use windows 7, check out the antipack, gets your hardware accelerated video working fast, along with all your audio. (http://babgvant.com/blogs/andyvt/archive/2009/08/02/antipack-get-your-videos-working-without-destroying-your-pc.aspx)<br>3. Cheap Video card - I bought a Radeon 4350 off of Newegg, with passive cooling. Does 1080p video with 1 - 5\% cpu usage.<br>4. NetFlix , Media Center has a NetFlix plugin, no HD video, yet.<br>5. Easy TV - Has a nice TV Guide, easy to make it work right. I do not have a cable card tuner for it yet, but Ati has on you can get off of ebay, and new models are coming out next year. Cable card tuner would eliminate your ir blaster issue. In the mean time there are a few MS Media Center remotes that come with ir blasters. Also TV shows go right into Media Browser.</p><p>As this is slashdot I bet I will get spammed for saying so, but IMHO it is the best all around system out there right now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In years past I 've used XBMC on the Xbox and Linux , then more recently Boxee and MediaPortal .
I started wanting something that just worked , and was a bit easier to setup .
I really like many of the Linux media programs , but they do take a bit of maintenance .
So when the RC of Windows 7 came out I figured I 'd give it a go .
Once I found Media Browser ( www.mediabrowser.tv ) , I was sold.So reasons I think Windows 7 is the way to go.1 .
Media Browser - Fantastic plug-in for media center .
Almost as good as XMBC in it 's prettiness and useability .
Very impressive to show off to your friends and high Wife Acceptance Factor.2 .
Easy - It took me about a week of fiddling after work to get it setup the way I wanted.. and I had no issues getting DTS HD or pass-through audio to work .
Very easy to get hardware accelerated video to work with ATI .
If you use windows 7 , check out the antipack , gets your hardware accelerated video working fast , along with all your audio .
( http : //babgvant.com/blogs/andyvt/archive/2009/08/02/antipack-get-your-videos-working-without-destroying-your-pc.aspx ) 3. Cheap Video card - I bought a Radeon 4350 off of Newegg , with passive cooling .
Does 1080p video with 1 - 5 \ % cpu usage.4 .
NetFlix , Media Center has a NetFlix plugin , no HD video , yet.5 .
Easy TV - Has a nice TV Guide , easy to make it work right .
I do not have a cable card tuner for it yet , but Ati has on you can get off of ebay , and new models are coming out next year .
Cable card tuner would eliminate your ir blaster issue .
In the mean time there are a few MS Media Center remotes that come with ir blasters .
Also TV shows go right into Media Browser.As this is slashdot I bet I will get spammed for saying so , but IMHO it is the best all around system out there right now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In years past I've used XBMC on the Xbox and Linux, then more recently Boxee and MediaPortal.
I started wanting something that just worked, and was a bit easier to setup.
I really like many of the Linux media programs, but they do take a bit of maintenance.
So when the RC of Windows 7 came out I figured I'd give it a go.
Once I found Media Browser (www.mediabrowser.tv), I was sold.So reasons I think Windows 7 is the way to go.1.
Media Browser - Fantastic plug-in for media center.
Almost as good as XMBC in it's prettiness and useability.
Very impressive to show off to your friends and high Wife Acceptance Factor.2.
Easy - It took me about a week of fiddling after work to get it setup the way I wanted.. and I had no issues getting DTS HD or pass-through audio to work.
Very easy to get hardware accelerated video to work with ATI.
If you use windows 7, check out the antipack, gets your hardware accelerated video working fast, along with all your audio.
(http://babgvant.com/blogs/andyvt/archive/2009/08/02/antipack-get-your-videos-working-without-destroying-your-pc.aspx)3. Cheap Video card - I bought a Radeon 4350 off of Newegg, with passive cooling.
Does 1080p video with 1 - 5\% cpu usage.4.
NetFlix , Media Center has a NetFlix plugin, no HD video, yet.5.
Easy TV - Has a nice TV Guide, easy to make it work right.
I do not have a cable card tuner for it yet, but Ati has on you can get off of ebay, and new models are coming out next year.
Cable card tuner would eliminate your ir blaster issue.
In the mean time there are a few MS Media Center remotes that come with ir blasters.
Also TV shows go right into Media Browser.As this is slashdot I bet I will get spammed for saying so, but IMHO it is the best all around system out there right now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305058</id>
	<title>XBMC frontend + MythTV backend</title>
	<author>hindumagic</author>
	<datestamp>1259584200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've run a MythTV media center solution for the past 5 years and recently rebuilt it.  I found that the backend was great, but all of my issues were with the frontend and getting that to work to my satisfaction.</p><p>My rebuild is based on Gentoo again, but this time with XBMC as the frontend, and it is fantastic - full HiDef (1080p), surround sound setup.  Installation was a snap and I had a fully working frontend solution including remote (on Gentoo!) within a day.  I'm going to install a MythTV backend on the same box for recording over the air signals, but I'm not in a hurry to do so.  My media center is now more focused on DVD viewing/storage and less TV these days.  I'm done with cable.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...now if only Linux could easily read BluRay...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've run a MythTV media center solution for the past 5 years and recently rebuilt it .
I found that the backend was great , but all of my issues were with the frontend and getting that to work to my satisfaction.My rebuild is based on Gentoo again , but this time with XBMC as the frontend , and it is fantastic - full HiDef ( 1080p ) , surround sound setup .
Installation was a snap and I had a fully working frontend solution including remote ( on Gentoo !
) within a day .
I 'm going to install a MythTV backend on the same box for recording over the air signals , but I 'm not in a hurry to do so .
My media center is now more focused on DVD viewing/storage and less TV these days .
I 'm done with cable .
...now if only Linux could easily read BluRay.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've run a MythTV media center solution for the past 5 years and recently rebuilt it.
I found that the backend was great, but all of my issues were with the frontend and getting that to work to my satisfaction.My rebuild is based on Gentoo again, but this time with XBMC as the frontend, and it is fantastic - full HiDef (1080p), surround sound setup.
Installation was a snap and I had a fully working frontend solution including remote (on Gentoo!
) within a day.
I'm going to install a MythTV backend on the same box for recording over the air signals, but I'm not in a hurry to do so.
My media center is now more focused on DVD viewing/storage and less TV these days.
I'm done with cable.
...now if only Linux could easily read BluRay...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307970</id>
	<title>Myth is still best</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259609160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nobody offers the flexibility that a myth/xbmc partnership offers.  Most consumer grade products are going to cost around $250 per tv.  These same products are locked down in some way or just limited functionality.</p><p>$180 for a sage front end.<br>$200 for a xbox360 front end.<br>$150 to $500 for a Tivo front end! Then there are service fees of $120/yr !!!<br>$250 for a apple tv.</p><p>Or you can go home brew with<br>One old Dell PC obtained for free to be a backend with Linux (whatever flavour) and MYTH<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.21.<br>Two Happauge 150 cards for ~$55 each for the backend. Could even add a third card or even a Happauge 1950 for HD.<br>Two used xbox for $36 each to be frontends with xbmc and myth2xbmc.<br>One year subscription to schedules direct for $20.</p><p>So $250 for setting up PVR in two rooms.  Another room will be another $40-45 investment.  Need more memory to handle the HD content just drop in a larger drive or plug in a USB external HD.</p><p>You might loose a few hours of sleep but its worth it in the end and your friends (techs or technophobic) will be envious.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobody offers the flexibility that a myth/xbmc partnership offers .
Most consumer grade products are going to cost around $ 250 per tv .
These same products are locked down in some way or just limited functionality. $ 180 for a sage front end. $ 200 for a xbox360 front end. $ 150 to $ 500 for a Tivo front end !
Then there are service fees of $ 120/yr ! !
! $ 250 for a apple tv.Or you can go home brew withOne old Dell PC obtained for free to be a backend with Linux ( whatever flavour ) and MYTH .21.Two Happauge 150 cards for ~ $ 55 each for the backend .
Could even add a third card or even a Happauge 1950 for HD.Two used xbox for $ 36 each to be frontends with xbmc and myth2xbmc.One year subscription to schedules direct for $ 20.So $ 250 for setting up PVR in two rooms .
Another room will be another $ 40-45 investment .
Need more memory to handle the HD content just drop in a larger drive or plug in a USB external HD.You might loose a few hours of sleep but its worth it in the end and your friends ( techs or technophobic ) will be envious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobody offers the flexibility that a myth/xbmc partnership offers.
Most consumer grade products are going to cost around $250 per tv.
These same products are locked down in some way or just limited functionality.$180 for a sage front end.$200 for a xbox360 front end.$150 to $500 for a Tivo front end!
Then there are service fees of $120/yr !!
!$250 for a apple tv.Or you can go home brew withOne old Dell PC obtained for free to be a backend with Linux (whatever flavour) and MYTH .21.Two Happauge 150 cards for ~$55 each for the backend.
Could even add a third card or even a Happauge 1950 for HD.Two used xbox for $36 each to be frontends with xbmc and myth2xbmc.One year subscription to schedules direct for $20.So $250 for setting up PVR in two rooms.
Another room will be another $40-45 investment.
Need more memory to handle the HD content just drop in a larger drive or plug in a USB external HD.You might loose a few hours of sleep but its worth it in the end and your friends (techs or technophobic) will be envious.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303792</id>
	<title>VCR</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259579640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just make sure you get the clock set first</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just make sure you get the clock set first</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just make sure you get the clock set first</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303860</id>
	<title>Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>coolmoose25</author>
	<datestamp>1259579760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I set up Windows Media Center on Vista and I like the way it works.  It's pretty simple to use and set up.  I bought a 2 tuner card for it so I can record 2 shows simultaneously.  Even more useful is the integration with Amazon UnBox and Video On Demand.  It just works.  Makes trips to the video store extraneous.  I haven't tried Netflix as I want simple on demand outside of my cable box.  This machine is set up in the living room, and is hooked up to a 37 inch panel.  I bought the overpriced remote for Media Center and that works well too (although the kids keep losing it)  Overall, I'm happy with the quality, and plan on upgrading to Windows 7 at some point, but really don't have a need as it simply works well now.<br> <br>
Now, cue the MS Haters and mod me down.  I know, I know... I'm stupid and don't know what I'm talking about.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I set up Windows Media Center on Vista and I like the way it works .
It 's pretty simple to use and set up .
I bought a 2 tuner card for it so I can record 2 shows simultaneously .
Even more useful is the integration with Amazon UnBox and Video On Demand .
It just works .
Makes trips to the video store extraneous .
I have n't tried Netflix as I want simple on demand outside of my cable box .
This machine is set up in the living room , and is hooked up to a 37 inch panel .
I bought the overpriced remote for Media Center and that works well too ( although the kids keep losing it ) Overall , I 'm happy with the quality , and plan on upgrading to Windows 7 at some point , but really do n't have a need as it simply works well now .
Now , cue the MS Haters and mod me down .
I know , I know... I 'm stupid and do n't know what I 'm talking about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I set up Windows Media Center on Vista and I like the way it works.
It's pretty simple to use and set up.
I bought a 2 tuner card for it so I can record 2 shows simultaneously.
Even more useful is the integration with Amazon UnBox and Video On Demand.
It just works.
Makes trips to the video store extraneous.
I haven't tried Netflix as I want simple on demand outside of my cable box.
This machine is set up in the living room, and is hooked up to a 37 inch panel.
I bought the overpriced remote for Media Center and that works well too (although the kids keep losing it)  Overall, I'm happy with the quality, and plan on upgrading to Windows 7 at some point, but really don't have a need as it simply works well now.
Now, cue the MS Haters and mod me down.
I know, I know... I'm stupid and don't know what I'm talking about.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306718</id>
	<title>Windows-the only way for HD, BluRay, and Netflix</title>
	<author>davidrools</author>
	<datestamp>1259594640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been using Windows Media Center since the XP version in 2005. Used it in Vista and now 7. I used a Creative TV tuner and its bundled software since 2000. All the while I tried other solutions: BeyondTV, Myth, ATi Hydravision's thing, Arcsoft Total Media, Sage TV, and others, but kept going back to MCE.

Windows Media Center is the core and there are a ton of really useful tools to make the most of it.

Video cards with HDMI and 7.1 sound piped through the one cable to the A/V receiver is nice.
Use Arcsoft Total Media Theater for BD playback. Don't bother with Cyberlink or anything else. Nice media center integration.
If you don't need to do HD TV recording, stick with Vista media center. Use LifeExtender for effort free and nearly perfect automated commercial removal.
Orb.com has a great service for streaming live and recorded tv to your work computer, smartphone, or other rooms in the house.
Using an Xbox360 as a media center extender is handy.
Gyration makes a sweet media center remote that also is IR programmable/learning for your TV and Receiver, has a gyroscopic mouse, and operates on RF to a USB dongle for controlling the computer. They also have one w/ a little LCD display for pulling up your music w/o having to turn on your TV.
Gotta use Slysoft AnyDVD HD. I also use it for my DVD and BD ripping needs.
Ripping BluRay discs takes up SO MUCH SPACE. I have 3 TBs of BDs now =\
Windows broadcasts all your music/movies/photos to all connected computers over the standard protocol and works well as a server...and you can run VMWare if you want even more serverability.
MyMovies is a nice DVD/BD Cataloging piece of software that integrates fully into WMC. It will automount BD ISO rips w/ DaemonTools too, so its nice if you plan on doing a BD library on your HTPC.
There are also Internet TV plugins available for WMC.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using Windows Media Center since the XP version in 2005 .
Used it in Vista and now 7 .
I used a Creative TV tuner and its bundled software since 2000 .
All the while I tried other solutions : BeyondTV , Myth , ATi Hydravision 's thing , Arcsoft Total Media , Sage TV , and others , but kept going back to MCE .
Windows Media Center is the core and there are a ton of really useful tools to make the most of it .
Video cards with HDMI and 7.1 sound piped through the one cable to the A/V receiver is nice .
Use Arcsoft Total Media Theater for BD playback .
Do n't bother with Cyberlink or anything else .
Nice media center integration .
If you do n't need to do HD TV recording , stick with Vista media center .
Use LifeExtender for effort free and nearly perfect automated commercial removal .
Orb.com has a great service for streaming live and recorded tv to your work computer , smartphone , or other rooms in the house .
Using an Xbox360 as a media center extender is handy .
Gyration makes a sweet media center remote that also is IR programmable/learning for your TV and Receiver , has a gyroscopic mouse , and operates on RF to a USB dongle for controlling the computer .
They also have one w/ a little LCD display for pulling up your music w/o having to turn on your TV .
Got ta use Slysoft AnyDVD HD .
I also use it for my DVD and BD ripping needs .
Ripping BluRay discs takes up SO MUCH SPACE .
I have 3 TBs of BDs now = \ Windows broadcasts all your music/movies/photos to all connected computers over the standard protocol and works well as a server...and you can run VMWare if you want even more serverability .
MyMovies is a nice DVD/BD Cataloging piece of software that integrates fully into WMC .
It will automount BD ISO rips w/ DaemonTools too , so its nice if you plan on doing a BD library on your HTPC .
There are also Internet TV plugins available for WMC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using Windows Media Center since the XP version in 2005.
Used it in Vista and now 7.
I used a Creative TV tuner and its bundled software since 2000.
All the while I tried other solutions: BeyondTV, Myth, ATi Hydravision's thing, Arcsoft Total Media, Sage TV, and others, but kept going back to MCE.
Windows Media Center is the core and there are a ton of really useful tools to make the most of it.
Video cards with HDMI and 7.1 sound piped through the one cable to the A/V receiver is nice.
Use Arcsoft Total Media Theater for BD playback.
Don't bother with Cyberlink or anything else.
Nice media center integration.
If you don't need to do HD TV recording, stick with Vista media center.
Use LifeExtender for effort free and nearly perfect automated commercial removal.
Orb.com has a great service for streaming live and recorded tv to your work computer, smartphone, or other rooms in the house.
Using an Xbox360 as a media center extender is handy.
Gyration makes a sweet media center remote that also is IR programmable/learning for your TV and Receiver, has a gyroscopic mouse, and operates on RF to a USB dongle for controlling the computer.
They also have one w/ a little LCD display for pulling up your music w/o having to turn on your TV.
Gotta use Slysoft AnyDVD HD.
I also use it for my DVD and BD ripping needs.
Ripping BluRay discs takes up SO MUCH SPACE.
I have 3 TBs of BDs now =\
Windows broadcasts all your music/movies/photos to all connected computers over the standard protocol and works well as a server...and you can run VMWare if you want even more serverability.
MyMovies is a nice DVD/BD Cataloging piece of software that integrates fully into WMC.
It will automount BD ISO rips w/ DaemonTools too, so its nice if you plan on doing a BD library on your HTPC.
There are also Internet TV plugins available for WMC.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307660</id>
	<title>Test dvr comment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259604720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>testing comment on dvrs</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>testing comment on dvrs</tokentext>
<sentencetext>testing comment on dvrs</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303962</id>
	<title>It's flexible and that's a problem?</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1259580120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The nice thing about a completely open and flexible system is that you can route around it's quirks with other tools. The fact that you can just drop in xine or mplayer is one of the key strengths of MythTV and would likely be necessary in any replacement. I've never gotten this fixation and insistence on using only MythTV for anything myth related. It doesn't have to be that way and that's kind of the point.</p><p>Play with MCE and Front Row and see for yourself. The grass may not necessarily be greener.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The nice thing about a completely open and flexible system is that you can route around it 's quirks with other tools .
The fact that you can just drop in xine or mplayer is one of the key strengths of MythTV and would likely be necessary in any replacement .
I 've never gotten this fixation and insistence on using only MythTV for anything myth related .
It does n't have to be that way and that 's kind of the point.Play with MCE and Front Row and see for yourself .
The grass may not necessarily be greener .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The nice thing about a completely open and flexible system is that you can route around it's quirks with other tools.
The fact that you can just drop in xine or mplayer is one of the key strengths of MythTV and would likely be necessary in any replacement.
I've never gotten this fixation and insistence on using only MythTV for anything myth related.
It doesn't have to be that way and that's kind of the point.Play with MCE and Front Row and see for yourself.
The grass may not necessarily be greener.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30308770</id>
	<title>Re:Snapstream?</title>
	<author>dugrrr</author>
	<datestamp>1259839140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
I have to chime in since I was a happy BeyondTV customer.  Snapstream's interface was better than Tivo's (an WAY better than Cox Cable's POS).  But that's been some time now opting simply for Zoomplayer or VLC<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...I don't even have cable anymore...I no longer surf, I just wade in.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to chime in since I was a happy BeyondTV customer .
Snapstream 's interface was better than Tivo 's ( an WAY better than Cox Cable 's POS ) .
But that 's been some time now opting simply for Zoomplayer or VLC ...I do n't even have cable anymore...I no longer surf , I just wade in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I have to chime in since I was a happy BeyondTV customer.
Snapstream's interface was better than Tivo's (an WAY better than Cox Cable's POS).
But that's been some time now opting simply for Zoomplayer or VLC ...I don't even have cable anymore...I no longer surf, I just wade in.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303780</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304342</id>
	<title>There are 3 prime-time PVR's on Windows</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sage TV, Beyond TV, and Media Center are all mature products that work well on Windows.<br><br>Media Center is very "Microsoft-y", and it's not as configurable as the others. The upside is that it's seamlessly integrated with Windows, and it passes the WAF test rather well.<br><br>Sage TV is a tinkerer's dream, but I never managed to get it successfully up and running with QAM channels mapped.<br><br>Beyond TV was my favorite for a long time, as it's both configurable and stable. The only problem is that Snapstream has slowed active development of the consumer product. Their prime focus is on developing for the Enterprise market. (Think one server, recording a dozen news channels at once, extracting closed-caption information to create a searchable database.) BTV has one great bonus feature: It can automatically re-compress video down to H.264 and drop the show in to iTunes as a Podcast. This is pretty slick, since it lets you save several TV shows to your iPod or iPhone and take them with with you.<br><br>BTV and Sage can both record HD through the Hauppauge HD-PVR, and all 3 can record ClearQAM content (usually your local TV stations.)<br><br>Windows 7 Media Center will also record encrypted QAM cable with a CableCard, but the CableCard capture devices aren't quite ready for public consumption yet; I believe the ATI box's firmware is still in closed beta, and the Ceton device will hit the market early next year. (The Ceton card will record 4 SD or HD shows at the same time.)<br><br>BTV and Sage can control your cable box with a USB-UIRT or MCE Remote (with an IR blaster). Media Center will only control your box with an MCE remote/blaster. &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W5GK5C/ref=ox\_ya\_oh\_product"&gt;Amazon has one for about $40 that works well.&lt;/a&gt;<br><br>BTV and Sage both can also stream live video to other PC's on the network. Media Center can only play back pre-recorded video; if you want to watch live TV an another PC, that PC needs a tuner card.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sage TV , Beyond TV , and Media Center are all mature products that work well on Windows.Media Center is very " Microsoft-y " , and it 's not as configurable as the others .
The upside is that it 's seamlessly integrated with Windows , and it passes the WAF test rather well.Sage TV is a tinkerer 's dream , but I never managed to get it successfully up and running with QAM channels mapped.Beyond TV was my favorite for a long time , as it 's both configurable and stable .
The only problem is that Snapstream has slowed active development of the consumer product .
Their prime focus is on developing for the Enterprise market .
( Think one server , recording a dozen news channels at once , extracting closed-caption information to create a searchable database .
) BTV has one great bonus feature : It can automatically re-compress video down to H.264 and drop the show in to iTunes as a Podcast .
This is pretty slick , since it lets you save several TV shows to your iPod or iPhone and take them with with you.BTV and Sage can both record HD through the Hauppauge HD-PVR , and all 3 can record ClearQAM content ( usually your local TV stations .
) Windows 7 Media Center will also record encrypted QAM cable with a CableCard , but the CableCard capture devices are n't quite ready for public consumption yet ; I believe the ATI box 's firmware is still in closed beta , and the Ceton device will hit the market early next year .
( The Ceton card will record 4 SD or HD shows at the same time .
) BTV and Sage can control your cable box with a USB-UIRT or MCE Remote ( with an IR blaster ) .
Media Center will only control your box with an MCE remote/blaster .
Amazon has one for about $ 40 that works well.BTV and Sage both can also stream live video to other PC 's on the network .
Media Center can only play back pre-recorded video ; if you want to watch live TV an another PC , that PC needs a tuner card .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sage TV, Beyond TV, and Media Center are all mature products that work well on Windows.Media Center is very "Microsoft-y", and it's not as configurable as the others.
The upside is that it's seamlessly integrated with Windows, and it passes the WAF test rather well.Sage TV is a tinkerer's dream, but I never managed to get it successfully up and running with QAM channels mapped.Beyond TV was my favorite for a long time, as it's both configurable and stable.
The only problem is that Snapstream has slowed active development of the consumer product.
Their prime focus is on developing for the Enterprise market.
(Think one server, recording a dozen news channels at once, extracting closed-caption information to create a searchable database.
) BTV has one great bonus feature: It can automatically re-compress video down to H.264 and drop the show in to iTunes as a Podcast.
This is pretty slick, since it lets you save several TV shows to your iPod or iPhone and take them with with you.BTV and Sage can both record HD through the Hauppauge HD-PVR, and all 3 can record ClearQAM content (usually your local TV stations.
)Windows 7 Media Center will also record encrypted QAM cable with a CableCard, but the CableCard capture devices aren't quite ready for public consumption yet; I believe the ATI box's firmware is still in closed beta, and the Ceton device will hit the market early next year.
(The Ceton card will record 4 SD or HD shows at the same time.
)BTV and Sage can control your cable box with a USB-UIRT or MCE Remote (with an IR blaster).
Media Center will only control your box with an MCE remote/blaster.
Amazon has one for about $40 that works well.BTV and Sage both can also stream live video to other PC's on the network.
Media Center can only play back pre-recorded video; if you want to watch live TV an another PC, that PC needs a tuner card.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307310</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>rtb61</author>
	<datestamp>1259600040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> The only catch with TIVO that makes it a dud, is you can't do anything else with it. You can turn it into a file server, a mail server, even an answering service, all while still being a media centre and running FOSS software you can do the lot for less than the price of a TIVO. I also typically prefer twin DVD drives and it is really important to be able to shift the content from DVDs to large hdisk drives for a lazier media jukebox. </p><p> The big reason for a FOSS only solution, I'm not interested in paying fix upgrades, I don't want to get stuck with corporate forced rule changes, I want it to be secure and I only ever stream free and then buy it, if it is good enough for local storage. I want to set it and forget it for a decade and not have to deal with corporate ass hat marketing executives and the latest how can we scam and monetize the customers with what ever privacy invasive or nickel and dimeing scheme they can come up with this time. Definitely no M$ solutions, somehow the reality always falls far short of the marketing hype, especially on forums and they're always changing the rules.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only catch with TIVO that makes it a dud , is you ca n't do anything else with it .
You can turn it into a file server , a mail server , even an answering service , all while still being a media centre and running FOSS software you can do the lot for less than the price of a TIVO .
I also typically prefer twin DVD drives and it is really important to be able to shift the content from DVDs to large hdisk drives for a lazier media jukebox .
The big reason for a FOSS only solution , I 'm not interested in paying fix upgrades , I do n't want to get stuck with corporate forced rule changes , I want it to be secure and I only ever stream free and then buy it , if it is good enough for local storage .
I want to set it and forget it for a decade and not have to deal with corporate ass hat marketing executives and the latest how can we scam and monetize the customers with what ever privacy invasive or nickel and dimeing scheme they can come up with this time .
Definitely no M $ solutions , somehow the reality always falls far short of the marketing hype , especially on forums and they 're always changing the rules .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The only catch with TIVO that makes it a dud, is you can't do anything else with it.
You can turn it into a file server, a mail server, even an answering service, all while still being a media centre and running FOSS software you can do the lot for less than the price of a TIVO.
I also typically prefer twin DVD drives and it is really important to be able to shift the content from DVDs to large hdisk drives for a lazier media jukebox.
The big reason for a FOSS only solution, I'm not interested in paying fix upgrades, I don't want to get stuck with corporate forced rule changes, I want it to be secure and I only ever stream free and then buy it, if it is good enough for local storage.
I want to set it and forget it for a decade and not have to deal with corporate ass hat marketing executives and the latest how can we scam and monetize the customers with what ever privacy invasive or nickel and dimeing scheme they can come up with this time.
Definitely no M$ solutions, somehow the reality always falls far short of the marketing hype, especially on forums and they're always changing the rules.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303918</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304608</id>
	<title>Re:GBPVR</title>
	<author>Maximalist</author>
	<datestamp>1259582400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agreed...  GBPVR is a great package, and has a great community of devs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed... GBPVR is a great package , and has a great community of devs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed...  GBPVR is a great package, and has a great community of devs.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303996</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306544</id>
	<title>Re:XBMC or WDTV or Boxee</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1259593140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a pretty good interface for a Jukebox type system with web video support and it has very good support for all sorts of (alien) formats. The key problem for XBMC for this discussion is the fact that it is not at all a PVR. Although it's pretty easy to launch it from MythTV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a pretty good interface for a Jukebox type system with web video support and it has very good support for all sorts of ( alien ) formats .
The key problem for XBMC for this discussion is the fact that it is not at all a PVR .
Although it 's pretty easy to launch it from MythTV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a pretty good interface for a Jukebox type system with web video support and it has very good support for all sorts of (alien) formats.
The key problem for XBMC for this discussion is the fact that it is not at all a PVR.
Although it's pretty easy to launch it from MythTV.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304214</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304038</id>
	<title>most STB's are linux the best would be TiVo</title>
	<author>johnjones</author>
	<datestamp>1259580360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>most Set Top Box manufacturers actually use linux so I would choose one that can be controlled via firewire unless your going to get a TiVO see http://tivohme.sourceforge.net/</p><p>again MythTV depends on the hardware that you use so I would say get some better supported hardware or buy something that they have done the integration for you</p><p>regards</p><p>John Jones</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>most Set Top Box manufacturers actually use linux so I would choose one that can be controlled via firewire unless your going to get a TiVO see http : //tivohme.sourceforge.net/again MythTV depends on the hardware that you use so I would say get some better supported hardware or buy something that they have done the integration for youregardsJohn Jones</tokentext>
<sentencetext>most Set Top Box manufacturers actually use linux so I would choose one that can be controlled via firewire unless your going to get a TiVO see http://tivohme.sourceforge.net/again MythTV depends on the hardware that you use so I would say get some better supported hardware or buy something that they have done the integration for youregardsJohn Jones</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304740</id>
	<title>Re:Sound dropping out and elusive PVRs</title>
	<author>Cidolfas</author>
	<datestamp>1259582880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did you check the [mythtv-users] mailing list?  I though I've seen lots of discussion on that issue there.
<br> <br>
<a href="http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/" title="gossamer-threads.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/</a> [gossamer-threads.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you check the [ mythtv-users ] mailing list ?
I though I 've seen lots of discussion on that issue there .
http : //www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ [ gossamer-threads.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you check the [mythtv-users] mailing list?
I though I've seen lots of discussion on that issue there.
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ [gossamer-threads.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304832</id>
	<title>MythTV automatic commercial skipping</title>
	<author>Dan667</author>
	<datestamp>1259583240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>commercial skipping that does not even require a remote button press.  That is the killer feature for me with MythTV and why I keep using it.  I also have diskless frontends and when I want a new one I can just plug it in and it just works.  And then there is the web interface that I can use to program recording shows from anywhere.  I agree with other posters with just using xine or another player for playing DVD's and it not being a bad thing.  You can send args to xine to surpress the splash screen and everything else and then seamlessly fall back to MythTV when you hit "end" on the remote so I don't see the problem.
As for streaming, I got a blue ray player that has netflix streaming (a roku box would work and be cheaper).  All of this is controlled with one universal remote.  If you want flexiblity you get it with myth.  If you constantly tinker and upgrade, you will always be tinkering with myth, but you can also choose to set it up and just use it.  From everything I have seen, MythTV's flexibility beats everything else I have tried (to the point where people are using other solutions like xmbc as a part of their MythTV solution).</htmltext>
<tokenext>commercial skipping that does not even require a remote button press .
That is the killer feature for me with MythTV and why I keep using it .
I also have diskless frontends and when I want a new one I can just plug it in and it just works .
And then there is the web interface that I can use to program recording shows from anywhere .
I agree with other posters with just using xine or another player for playing DVD 's and it not being a bad thing .
You can send args to xine to surpress the splash screen and everything else and then seamlessly fall back to MythTV when you hit " end " on the remote so I do n't see the problem .
As for streaming , I got a blue ray player that has netflix streaming ( a roku box would work and be cheaper ) .
All of this is controlled with one universal remote .
If you want flexiblity you get it with myth .
If you constantly tinker and upgrade , you will always be tinkering with myth , but you can also choose to set it up and just use it .
From everything I have seen , MythTV 's flexibility beats everything else I have tried ( to the point where people are using other solutions like xmbc as a part of their MythTV solution ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>commercial skipping that does not even require a remote button press.
That is the killer feature for me with MythTV and why I keep using it.
I also have diskless frontends and when I want a new one I can just plug it in and it just works.
And then there is the web interface that I can use to program recording shows from anywhere.
I agree with other posters with just using xine or another player for playing DVD's and it not being a bad thing.
You can send args to xine to surpress the splash screen and everything else and then seamlessly fall back to MythTV when you hit "end" on the remote so I don't see the problem.
As for streaming, I got a blue ray player that has netflix streaming (a roku box would work and be cheaper).
All of this is controlled with one universal remote.
If you want flexiblity you get it with myth.
If you constantly tinker and upgrade, you will always be tinkering with myth, but you can also choose to set it up and just use it.
From everything I have seen, MythTV's flexibility beats everything else I have tried (to the point where people are using other solutions like xmbc as a part of their MythTV solution).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30315256</id>
	<title>Another MCE vote</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259831040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Windows Media Center with XP, Vista or Windows 7. I ran Beyond TV for Windows for a very long time as it was more robust and reliable than MythTV, as well as being more intuitive for non-technically inclined users (read: My wife did not like MythTV).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows Media Center with XP , Vista or Windows 7 .
I ran Beyond TV for Windows for a very long time as it was more robust and reliable than MythTV , as well as being more intuitive for non-technically inclined users ( read : My wife did not like MythTV ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows Media Center with XP, Vista or Windows 7.
I ran Beyond TV for Windows for a very long time as it was more robust and reliable than MythTV, as well as being more intuitive for non-technically inclined users (read: My wife did not like MythTV).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303986</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>EndingPop</author>
	<datestamp>1259580180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>LinuxMCE uses MythTV for DVR functionality. It does use Xine/Mplayer for DVD playback.

Source: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinuxMCE#Software\_components" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinuxMCE#Software\_components</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>LinuxMCE uses MythTV for DVR functionality .
It does use Xine/Mplayer for DVD playback .
Source : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinuxMCE # Software \ _components [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>LinuxMCE uses MythTV for DVR functionality.
It does use Xine/Mplayer for DVD playback.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinuxMCE#Software\_components [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304708</id>
	<title>Client / Server</title>
	<author>jamie(really)</author>
	<datestamp>1259582760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I ran Windows MCE for several years, first 2005, then Vista. Unfortunately, it would die, or need to be rebooted, whenever the wifes favorite TV show was on. So I looked for something that could do client/server: dedicated box for recording and storing, separate box for viewing. My requirements were:</p><p>1) Client / server<br>2) DVD playback on client<br>3) Full screen TV-like interface on client<br>4) Working TV guide</p><p>The only one that fit the bill was Sage. I've been running it ever since. I'm about to try switching the server from Windows to Linux, so wish me luck<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-) They also have an OSX version, so I can watch recorded TV on my macbook.</p><p>Jamie</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ran Windows MCE for several years , first 2005 , then Vista .
Unfortunately , it would die , or need to be rebooted , whenever the wifes favorite TV show was on .
So I looked for something that could do client/server : dedicated box for recording and storing , separate box for viewing .
My requirements were : 1 ) Client / server2 ) DVD playback on client3 ) Full screen TV-like interface on client4 ) Working TV guideThe only one that fit the bill was Sage .
I 've been running it ever since .
I 'm about to try switching the server from Windows to Linux , so wish me luck : - ) They also have an OSX version , so I can watch recorded TV on my macbook.Jamie</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I ran Windows MCE for several years, first 2005, then Vista.
Unfortunately, it would die, or need to be rebooted, whenever the wifes favorite TV show was on.
So I looked for something that could do client/server: dedicated box for recording and storing, separate box for viewing.
My requirements were:1) Client / server2) DVD playback on client3) Full screen TV-like interface on client4) Working TV guideThe only one that fit the bill was Sage.
I've been running it ever since.
I'm about to try switching the server from Windows to Linux, so wish me luck :-) They also have an OSX version, so I can watch recorded TV on my macbook.Jamie</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307546</id>
	<title>Re:Snapstream?</title>
	<author>angelbunny</author>
	<datestamp>1259602980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tried Snapstream hoping I could stream live tv uncompressed over the lan to my macbook. Apparently this feature once existed but they removed it to charge for their link program. Unfortunately, it is windows only.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tried Snapstream hoping I could stream live tv uncompressed over the lan to my macbook .
Apparently this feature once existed but they removed it to charge for their link program .
Unfortunately , it is windows only .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tried Snapstream hoping I could stream live tv uncompressed over the lan to my macbook.
Apparently this feature once existed but they removed it to charge for their link program.
Unfortunately, it is windows only.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304430</id>
	<title>I was planning...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...on using Myth TV myself.  had the spare PC, found a nice dual tuner tv card.  Then i found out that no drivers had been written at the time.  Then when i did find drivers, it was only for  the digital half of the card which was useless to me.  I just wanted to be able to record tv with little or no hassle, without having to buy a Tivo, etc.  Looks like it'll be some windows for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...on using Myth TV myself .
had the spare PC , found a nice dual tuner tv card .
Then i found out that no drivers had been written at the time .
Then when i did find drivers , it was only for the digital half of the card which was useless to me .
I just wanted to be able to record tv with little or no hassle , without having to buy a Tivo , etc .
Looks like it 'll be some windows for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...on using Myth TV myself.
had the spare PC, found a nice dual tuner tv card.
Then i found out that no drivers had been written at the time.
Then when i did find drivers, it was only for  the digital half of the card which was useless to me.
I just wanted to be able to record tv with little or no hassle, without having to buy a Tivo, etc.
Looks like it'll be some windows for me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305256</id>
	<title>Re:Recording HD?</title>
	<author>SEAL</author>
	<datestamp>1259585100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1) DVR from cable company. Problems: I've gotten anecdotal information that these DVR's have poorly designed UI's and tend to be somewhat flaky (worse than Windows). Also, they are a closed system, I can't move the recording to a mobile device for portable viewing.</p></div><p>At least in my experience with Comcast DVRs, yes they are flaky, the interface is poor, the fast forwarding sucks, and it has had problems with just magically losing all recordings twice in the two years I used it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>2) PC + HD ATSC / Clear-QAM tuner card - this gives me the ability to record over the air broadcasts and cable channels that support Clear-QAM (which is a fairly small subset of cable channels).</p></div><p>Works well, although I'd recommend something like the HDHomerun (dual clear-QAM tuner box that plugs into your home network).  At least where I am, I get pretty much everything on basic cable in 480p, and then the OTA channels plus a few others in either 720p or 1080i.</p><p>Beware that Comcast likes to leave their QAM frequencies undocumented and likes to map them to different channels periodically.  So if you're using MythTV you'll want some familiarity with the database, particularly the channels and dtv\_multiplex tables.  That said, with the switchover to digital, I no longer have the ability to record analog cable and you may find the same problem in upcoming months.  In particular, in my area, Comcast switched QAM frequencies last month (again) and is now using some of the area formerly allocated to analog.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>3) PC + HD Tuner Card + Cable Card - does anyone make one of these? Anyone have any experience with this?</p></div><p>Tivo is your easiest solution.  Windows Media Center will support a CableCard but with some tweaking required (good writeup here: <a href="http://hd.engadget.com/2009/05/12/how-to-install-a-cablecard-tuner-in-your-diy-media-center/" title="engadget.com">http://hd.engadget.com/2009/05/12/how-to-install-a-cablecard-tuner-in-your-diy-media-center/</a> [engadget.com])</p><p>I don't know of a way to get MythTV working with a cable card and it seems rather unlikely because it is a hardware / vendor lock-in.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) DVR from cable company .
Problems : I 've gotten anecdotal information that these DVR 's have poorly designed UI 's and tend to be somewhat flaky ( worse than Windows ) .
Also , they are a closed system , I ca n't move the recording to a mobile device for portable viewing.At least in my experience with Comcast DVRs , yes they are flaky , the interface is poor , the fast forwarding sucks , and it has had problems with just magically losing all recordings twice in the two years I used it.2 ) PC + HD ATSC / Clear-QAM tuner card - this gives me the ability to record over the air broadcasts and cable channels that support Clear-QAM ( which is a fairly small subset of cable channels ) .Works well , although I 'd recommend something like the HDHomerun ( dual clear-QAM tuner box that plugs into your home network ) .
At least where I am , I get pretty much everything on basic cable in 480p , and then the OTA channels plus a few others in either 720p or 1080i.Beware that Comcast likes to leave their QAM frequencies undocumented and likes to map them to different channels periodically .
So if you 're using MythTV you 'll want some familiarity with the database , particularly the channels and dtv \ _multiplex tables .
That said , with the switchover to digital , I no longer have the ability to record analog cable and you may find the same problem in upcoming months .
In particular , in my area , Comcast switched QAM frequencies last month ( again ) and is now using some of the area formerly allocated to analog.3 ) PC + HD Tuner Card + Cable Card - does anyone make one of these ?
Anyone have any experience with this ? Tivo is your easiest solution .
Windows Media Center will support a CableCard but with some tweaking required ( good writeup here : http : //hd.engadget.com/2009/05/12/how-to-install-a-cablecard-tuner-in-your-diy-media-center/ [ engadget.com ] ) I do n't know of a way to get MythTV working with a cable card and it seems rather unlikely because it is a hardware / vendor lock-in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) DVR from cable company.
Problems: I've gotten anecdotal information that these DVR's have poorly designed UI's and tend to be somewhat flaky (worse than Windows).
Also, they are a closed system, I can't move the recording to a mobile device for portable viewing.At least in my experience with Comcast DVRs, yes they are flaky, the interface is poor, the fast forwarding sucks, and it has had problems with just magically losing all recordings twice in the two years I used it.2) PC + HD ATSC / Clear-QAM tuner card - this gives me the ability to record over the air broadcasts and cable channels that support Clear-QAM (which is a fairly small subset of cable channels).Works well, although I'd recommend something like the HDHomerun (dual clear-QAM tuner box that plugs into your home network).
At least where I am, I get pretty much everything on basic cable in 480p, and then the OTA channels plus a few others in either 720p or 1080i.Beware that Comcast likes to leave their QAM frequencies undocumented and likes to map them to different channels periodically.
So if you're using MythTV you'll want some familiarity with the database, particularly the channels and dtv\_multiplex tables.
That said, with the switchover to digital, I no longer have the ability to record analog cable and you may find the same problem in upcoming months.
In particular, in my area, Comcast switched QAM frequencies last month (again) and is now using some of the area formerly allocated to analog.3) PC + HD Tuner Card + Cable Card - does anyone make one of these?
Anyone have any experience with this?Tivo is your easiest solution.
Windows Media Center will support a CableCard but with some tweaking required (good writeup here: http://hd.engadget.com/2009/05/12/how-to-install-a-cablecard-tuner-in-your-diy-media-center/ [engadget.com])I don't know of a way to get MythTV working with a cable card and it seems rather unlikely because it is a hardware / vendor lock-in.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304468</id>
	<title>Re:For viewing? LG BD390</title>
	<author>IpSo\_</author>
	<datestamp>1259581980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How well does it actually support MythTV though?</p><p>I imagine its just a "dumb" video stream player that can't skip commercials or modify any of the programming that a regular Myth frontend can do?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How well does it actually support MythTV though ? I imagine its just a " dumb " video stream player that ca n't skip commercials or modify any of the programming that a regular Myth frontend can do ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How well does it actually support MythTV though?I imagine its just a "dumb" video stream player that can't skip commercials or modify any of the programming that a regular Myth frontend can do?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307468</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>Jason Levine</author>
	<datestamp>1259602020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My wife and I have been looking at ditching cable too and going Over-The-Air (or at least DirecTV which is cheaper than Time Warner Cable).  If you go OTA, do you need a converter box?  We have two standard definition TVs and have no plans to upgrade to HD until one of the TVs die.  (Yes, I know HD is better quality, but when funds are limited SD can be good enough.)  If we would need a converter box, how much are they?  Are there any you recommend?  Is there any other equipment needed (besides the TiVo, of course)?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My wife and I have been looking at ditching cable too and going Over-The-Air ( or at least DirecTV which is cheaper than Time Warner Cable ) .
If you go OTA , do you need a converter box ?
We have two standard definition TVs and have no plans to upgrade to HD until one of the TVs die .
( Yes , I know HD is better quality , but when funds are limited SD can be good enough .
) If we would need a converter box , how much are they ?
Are there any you recommend ?
Is there any other equipment needed ( besides the TiVo , of course ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My wife and I have been looking at ditching cable too and going Over-The-Air (or at least DirecTV which is cheaper than Time Warner Cable).
If you go OTA, do you need a converter box?
We have two standard definition TVs and have no plans to upgrade to HD until one of the TVs die.
(Yes, I know HD is better quality, but when funds are limited SD can be good enough.
)  If we would need a converter box, how much are they?
Are there any you recommend?
Is there any other equipment needed (besides the TiVo, of course)?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30324956</id>
	<title>GB-PVR</title>
	<author>wintermute740</author>
	<datestamp>1259947920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've tried A LOT of PVR software over the years, and MythTV (via Mythbuntu) is what I'm currently using. That said, if you're looking for a Windows solution to run under XP, I found <a href="http://www.gbpvr.com/" title="gbpvr.com" rel="nofollow">GB-PVR</a> [gbpvr.com] to be about an excellent choice. There are a ton of plugins available as well, so I'd say it is at least as full-featured as MythTV. If you insist on running Windows on your PVR, you could do much worse.</p><p>*disclaimer* I've not tried Media Center under Windows 7. I did try it under Vista and found it somewhat lacking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've tried A LOT of PVR software over the years , and MythTV ( via Mythbuntu ) is what I 'm currently using .
That said , if you 're looking for a Windows solution to run under XP , I found GB-PVR [ gbpvr.com ] to be about an excellent choice .
There are a ton of plugins available as well , so I 'd say it is at least as full-featured as MythTV .
If you insist on running Windows on your PVR , you could do much worse .
* disclaimer * I 've not tried Media Center under Windows 7 .
I did try it under Vista and found it somewhat lacking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've tried A LOT of PVR software over the years, and MythTV (via Mythbuntu) is what I'm currently using.
That said, if you're looking for a Windows solution to run under XP, I found GB-PVR [gbpvr.com] to be about an excellent choice.
There are a ton of plugins available as well, so I'd say it is at least as full-featured as MythTV.
If you insist on running Windows on your PVR, you could do much worse.
*disclaimer* I've not tried Media Center under Windows 7.
I did try it under Vista and found it somewhat lacking.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304760</id>
	<title>Re:XBMC or WDTV or Boxee</title>
	<author>Monolith1</author>
	<datestamp>1259582940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What about XBox media center</p></div><p>It may not suit your desired config, but I love the combination of XBMC on my old original xbox networked to my main PC which does all the heavy lifting (downloading and recording) to shares the xbox can access across my LAN.

I run an old original xbox I got off ebay in the loungeroom hooked up to my 42" Panasonic 1280 plasma via the component cable and it looks absolutely fantastic at 720p. The xbox is patched into my LAN, then in my office, I have my main PC which is always on, and I have setup a share on it where I put all my divx files (I use altbinz rss feeds straight into custom folders). I bought a cheap TV tuner card (Winfast pxDVR3200HBDA - onboard hardware mpeg - approx $100AUS) for my main pc and I just record shows straight to a share which I can access from the xbox in the lounge. The provided winfast software is pretty clunky but it handles my scheduled recordings fine.

The setup works a treat for me, the library mode keeps track of watched shows, and the wife can drive XBMC easily via the standard xbox remote.

NB: The standard original xbox cannot play MKV or other highdef content. If I record on my tuner card in the office at full high def, the files are too jerky to play in the lounge room. So I just record at standard digital def and play and they look fine. Realistically, I hardly watch much live TV. Its mainly for the kids afternoon shows.

The only reason I would build a dedicated standalone PVR box is if standard resolution divx content started to dry up, and I needed a more powerful platform to play highdef content.

I am running Windows 7 64 ultimate and I did try the built in media centre, It is very nice, but the recording format is an issue. I could convert them back to a format xbmc could handle but I got sick of it and just went back to recording standard winfast mpgs again.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about XBox media centerIt may not suit your desired config , but I love the combination of XBMC on my old original xbox networked to my main PC which does all the heavy lifting ( downloading and recording ) to shares the xbox can access across my LAN .
I run an old original xbox I got off ebay in the loungeroom hooked up to my 42 " Panasonic 1280 plasma via the component cable and it looks absolutely fantastic at 720p .
The xbox is patched into my LAN , then in my office , I have my main PC which is always on , and I have setup a share on it where I put all my divx files ( I use altbinz rss feeds straight into custom folders ) .
I bought a cheap TV tuner card ( Winfast pxDVR3200HBDA - onboard hardware mpeg - approx $ 100AUS ) for my main pc and I just record shows straight to a share which I can access from the xbox in the lounge .
The provided winfast software is pretty clunky but it handles my scheduled recordings fine .
The setup works a treat for me , the library mode keeps track of watched shows , and the wife can drive XBMC easily via the standard xbox remote .
NB : The standard original xbox can not play MKV or other highdef content .
If I record on my tuner card in the office at full high def , the files are too jerky to play in the lounge room .
So I just record at standard digital def and play and they look fine .
Realistically , I hardly watch much live TV .
Its mainly for the kids afternoon shows .
The only reason I would build a dedicated standalone PVR box is if standard resolution divx content started to dry up , and I needed a more powerful platform to play highdef content .
I am running Windows 7 64 ultimate and I did try the built in media centre , It is very nice , but the recording format is an issue .
I could convert them back to a format xbmc could handle but I got sick of it and just went back to recording standard winfast mpgs again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about XBox media centerIt may not suit your desired config, but I love the combination of XBMC on my old original xbox networked to my main PC which does all the heavy lifting (downloading and recording) to shares the xbox can access across my LAN.
I run an old original xbox I got off ebay in the loungeroom hooked up to my 42" Panasonic 1280 plasma via the component cable and it looks absolutely fantastic at 720p.
The xbox is patched into my LAN, then in my office, I have my main PC which is always on, and I have setup a share on it where I put all my divx files (I use altbinz rss feeds straight into custom folders).
I bought a cheap TV tuner card (Winfast pxDVR3200HBDA - onboard hardware mpeg - approx $100AUS) for my main pc and I just record shows straight to a share which I can access from the xbox in the lounge.
The provided winfast software is pretty clunky but it handles my scheduled recordings fine.
The setup works a treat for me, the library mode keeps track of watched shows, and the wife can drive XBMC easily via the standard xbox remote.
NB: The standard original xbox cannot play MKV or other highdef content.
If I record on my tuner card in the office at full high def, the files are too jerky to play in the lounge room.
So I just record at standard digital def and play and they look fine.
Realistically, I hardly watch much live TV.
Its mainly for the kids afternoon shows.
The only reason I would build a dedicated standalone PVR box is if standard resolution divx content started to dry up, and I needed a more powerful platform to play highdef content.
I am running Windows 7 64 ultimate and I did try the built in media centre, It is very nice, but the recording format is an issue.
I could convert them back to a format xbmc could handle but I got sick of it and just went back to recording standard winfast mpgs again.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306746</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259594820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just bought a new home and had some Cat6 laid.  I also had a conduit from the basement up to the attic run.  Anyway, my plan is network my house and get Linux MCE running.  It really does appear to be awesome software.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just bought a new home and had some Cat6 laid .
I also had a conduit from the basement up to the attic run .
Anyway , my plan is network my house and get Linux MCE running .
It really does appear to be awesome software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just bought a new home and had some Cat6 laid.
I also had a conduit from the basement up to the attic run.
Anyway, my plan is network my house and get Linux MCE running.
It really does appear to be awesome software.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30314018</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1259869320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For TiVo, sure. On the satellite, though, they charge about $7.00 a month for "lease", and another for "programming access" (of course, you get the EPG on a normal sat box anyway). However, on Dish anyway, they waive one of these fees if you keep the STB on a phone line (which allows you to make impulse buys of PPV stuff, rather than having to dial in).  If the unit fails, they replace it or upgrade it for no additional charge (in theory, anyway). So that's $84 a year for someone else to maintain the DVR for me.</p><p>With that said, I've had my model 1 TiVo since the later 1990s, with lifetime subscription. It's still going... the HDD failed once, but I got a many-time-larger replacement from Weaknees, preformatted and relatively cheap. The TiVo hardware is pretty reliable. Of course, if it finally failed, I would replace it with some kind of media PC, more than likely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For TiVo , sure .
On the satellite , though , they charge about $ 7.00 a month for " lease " , and another for " programming access " ( of course , you get the EPG on a normal sat box anyway ) .
However , on Dish anyway , they waive one of these fees if you keep the STB on a phone line ( which allows you to make impulse buys of PPV stuff , rather than having to dial in ) .
If the unit fails , they replace it or upgrade it for no additional charge ( in theory , anyway ) .
So that 's $ 84 a year for someone else to maintain the DVR for me.With that said , I 've had my model 1 TiVo since the later 1990s , with lifetime subscription .
It 's still going... the HDD failed once , but I got a many-time-larger replacement from Weaknees , preformatted and relatively cheap .
The TiVo hardware is pretty reliable .
Of course , if it finally failed , I would replace it with some kind of media PC , more than likely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For TiVo, sure.
On the satellite, though, they charge about $7.00 a month for "lease", and another for "programming access" (of course, you get the EPG on a normal sat box anyway).
However, on Dish anyway, they waive one of these fees if you keep the STB on a phone line (which allows you to make impulse buys of PPV stuff, rather than having to dial in).
If the unit fails, they replace it or upgrade it for no additional charge (in theory, anyway).
So that's $84 a year for someone else to maintain the DVR for me.With that said, I've had my model 1 TiVo since the later 1990s, with lifetime subscription.
It's still going... the HDD failed once, but I got a many-time-larger replacement from Weaknees, preformatted and relatively cheap.
The TiVo hardware is pretty reliable.
Of course, if it finally failed, I would replace it with some kind of media PC, more than likely.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305226</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305786</id>
	<title>Re:Recording HD?</title>
	<author>VoltageX</author>
	<datestamp>1259587680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There was a product called Fury-something that could pass the output from HDMI to other outputs, which may be one step towards what you want to do.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There was a product called Fury-something that could pass the output from HDMI to other outputs , which may be one step towards what you want to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There was a product called Fury-something that could pass the output from HDMI to other outputs, which may be one step towards what you want to do.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307368</id>
	<title>Re:MythTV automatic commercial skipping</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259600580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Killer feature #2, Playback speed change.  By skipping commercials and speeding up the playback speed, I can easily watch two hours of shows in forty minutes.  That is awesome!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Killer feature # 2 , Playback speed change .
By skipping commercials and speeding up the playback speed , I can easily watch two hours of shows in forty minutes .
That is awesome !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Killer feature #2, Playback speed change.
By skipping commercials and speeding up the playback speed, I can easily watch two hours of shows in forty minutes.
That is awesome!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304832</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30309620</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>Jellybob</author>
	<datestamp>1259852160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.mediabrowser.tv/" title="mediabrowser.tv">Media Browser</a> [mediabrowser.tv] solves a lot of the problems with playing downloaded video, providing a far better interface for browsing things then the default Media Centre one. I had the same problem with the almost unusable video browser in MCE 7, but now that I'm using Media Browser I'm a lot happier.</p><p>I've still not found anything to do music nicely, but I'm not really bothered about that personally, since I stream that to an AirTunes base station from iTunes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Media Browser [ mediabrowser.tv ] solves a lot of the problems with playing downloaded video , providing a far better interface for browsing things then the default Media Centre one .
I had the same problem with the almost unusable video browser in MCE 7 , but now that I 'm using Media Browser I 'm a lot happier.I 've still not found anything to do music nicely , but I 'm not really bothered about that personally , since I stream that to an AirTunes base station from iTunes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Media Browser [mediabrowser.tv] solves a lot of the problems with playing downloaded video, providing a far better interface for browsing things then the default Media Centre one.
I had the same problem with the almost unusable video browser in MCE 7, but now that I'm using Media Browser I'm a lot happier.I've still not found anything to do music nicely, but I'm not really bothered about that personally, since I stream that to an AirTunes base station from iTunes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30309306</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259848380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget how poor Flash is on non-Windows boxes. Many streaming websites (e.g. BBC iPlayer) struggle in fullscreen for high bit-rate broadcasts even with decent spec machines.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget how poor Flash is on non-Windows boxes .
Many streaming websites ( e.g .
BBC iPlayer ) struggle in fullscreen for high bit-rate broadcasts even with decent spec machines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget how poor Flash is on non-Windows boxes.
Many streaming websites (e.g.
BBC iPlayer) struggle in fullscreen for high bit-rate broadcasts even with decent spec machines.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304214</id>
	<title>XBMC or WDTV or Boxee</title>
	<author>halfdan the black</author>
	<datestamp>1259581020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What about XBox media center, I heard a lot of good things about it, but not much discussion here, what do others think of XBMC.
<p>
Also heard a lot of good things about Boxee, any thoughts.
</p><p>
I myself am planning on getting a WDTV some time soon, nice small, compact, does not need a computer. And runs Linux, and is totally hackable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about XBox media center , I heard a lot of good things about it , but not much discussion here , what do others think of XBMC .
Also heard a lot of good things about Boxee , any thoughts .
I myself am planning on getting a WDTV some time soon , nice small , compact , does not need a computer .
And runs Linux , and is totally hackable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about XBox media center, I heard a lot of good things about it, but not much discussion here, what do others think of XBMC.
Also heard a lot of good things about Boxee, any thoughts.
I myself am planning on getting a WDTV some time soon, nice small, compact, does not need a computer.
And runs Linux, and is totally hackable.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30308474</id>
	<title>Re:Recording HD?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259834340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>currently I am using using Beyond TV the server is running on a hp laptop with a broken screen, that happens to have e-sata and hdmi (lucky for me) and enough hd space, I also have a computer in every room in the house for watching tv, 3 large screen tv's. I am also using 2 networked tuners, which each one has 2x tuners supporting qam for digital cable. getting everything to work properly has been some work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>currently I am using using Beyond TV the server is running on a hp laptop with a broken screen , that happens to have e-sata and hdmi ( lucky for me ) and enough hd space , I also have a computer in every room in the house for watching tv , 3 large screen tv 's .
I am also using 2 networked tuners , which each one has 2x tuners supporting qam for digital cable .
getting everything to work properly has been some work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>currently I am using using Beyond TV the server is running on a hp laptop with a broken screen, that happens to have e-sata and hdmi (lucky for me) and enough hd space, I also have a computer in every room in the house for watching tv, 3 large screen tv's.
I am also using 2 networked tuners, which each one has 2x tuners supporting qam for digital cable.
getting everything to work properly has been some work.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306428</id>
	<title>Re:Tivo Warning</title>
	<author>nonliteral</author>
	<datestamp>1259592240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Depends entirely on your cable company. I have two TivoHDs with cablecards on FIOS, and (thus far, knocking on wood), I've yet to see them mark anything as non-copyable.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends entirely on your cable company .
I have two TivoHDs with cablecards on FIOS , and ( thus far , knocking on wood ) , I 've yet to see them mark anything as non-copyable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends entirely on your cable company.
I have two TivoHDs with cablecards on FIOS, and (thus far, knocking on wood), I've yet to see them mark anything as non-copyable.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304700</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30322674</id>
	<title>Re:Tivo Warning</title>
	<author>crtreece</author>
	<datestamp>1259934720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not sure which direction you are talking about moving shows.  I have copied multiple shows from my series 2 tivo to my mac in order to strip out the commercials and burn to DVD.  I've also copied them to a laptop running XP.<br> <br>

To do the copy, I've used the Roxio plugin that comes with Toast, and whatever the Tivo provided software is for XP.<br> <br>

I also used tivodecode for a while.<br> <br>

I don't remember any issues with any of the 3, especially not being able to copy any shows.  I copied shows from food network, hbo, and other non-broadcast networks.<br> <br>

Most likely none of that applies if you have a series 3 or other HD capable box.  If you do, and you are tired of the box, feel free to send it to me<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure which direction you are talking about moving shows .
I have copied multiple shows from my series 2 tivo to my mac in order to strip out the commercials and burn to DVD .
I 've also copied them to a laptop running XP .
To do the copy , I 've used the Roxio plugin that comes with Toast , and whatever the Tivo provided software is for XP .
I also used tivodecode for a while .
I do n't remember any issues with any of the 3 , especially not being able to copy any shows .
I copied shows from food network , hbo , and other non-broadcast networks .
Most likely none of that applies if you have a series 3 or other HD capable box .
If you do , and you are tired of the box , feel free to send it to me ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure which direction you are talking about moving shows.
I have copied multiple shows from my series 2 tivo to my mac in order to strip out the commercials and burn to DVD.
I've also copied them to a laptop running XP.
To do the copy, I've used the Roxio plugin that comes with Toast, and whatever the Tivo provided software is for XP.
I also used tivodecode for a while.
I don't remember any issues with any of the 3, especially not being able to copy any shows.
I copied shows from food network, hbo, and other non-broadcast networks.
Most likely none of that applies if you have a series 3 or other HD capable box.
If you do, and you are tired of the box, feel free to send it to me ;-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304700</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306004</id>
	<title>try MediaBrowser w/ VMC/W7MC</title>
	<author>ahbi</author>
	<datestamp>1259589060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WMC is "good enough" but you really want something like <a href="http://www.mediabrowser.tv/" title="mediabrowser.tv">MediaBrowser</a> [mediabrowser.tv] is you have a lot of ripped DVDs or saved videos.</p><p>It is currently free and open sourced.<br>Although the authors want to move to a pay but open source model, mostly due to the popularity of it and how that eats into their time. They seem a bit slow to move onto that model however.</p><p>MB will automatically pull metadata info from the TVDB and Movie DB (open APIs) for your movies and videos (assuming they are named in a way MB understands).<br>Based upon that metadata it'll do genre/studio/release date sorting, and keeps track of your watch &amp; partly-watched videos.<br>Has about 3-4 themes (supported by the respective authors) and within those themes a series of views (poster, banner, coverflow, thumbnail, etc.).</p><p>Also MB had a Music plug-in in the works (haven't tried it).<br>And it can handle VMC and W7MC recorded videos. (also haven't tried personally)<br>You can also look towards MyMovies but that is really DVD-centric. Although it is a great source for movie metadata.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WMC is " good enough " but you really want something like MediaBrowser [ mediabrowser.tv ] is you have a lot of ripped DVDs or saved videos.It is currently free and open sourced.Although the authors want to move to a pay but open source model , mostly due to the popularity of it and how that eats into their time .
They seem a bit slow to move onto that model however.MB will automatically pull metadata info from the TVDB and Movie DB ( open APIs ) for your movies and videos ( assuming they are named in a way MB understands ) .Based upon that metadata it 'll do genre/studio/release date sorting , and keeps track of your watch &amp; partly-watched videos.Has about 3-4 themes ( supported by the respective authors ) and within those themes a series of views ( poster , banner , coverflow , thumbnail , etc .
) .Also MB had a Music plug-in in the works ( have n't tried it ) .And it can handle VMC and W7MC recorded videos .
( also have n't tried personally ) You can also look towards MyMovies but that is really DVD-centric .
Although it is a great source for movie metadata .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WMC is "good enough" but you really want something like MediaBrowser [mediabrowser.tv] is you have a lot of ripped DVDs or saved videos.It is currently free and open sourced.Although the authors want to move to a pay but open source model, mostly due to the popularity of it and how that eats into their time.
They seem a bit slow to move onto that model however.MB will automatically pull metadata info from the TVDB and Movie DB (open APIs) for your movies and videos (assuming they are named in a way MB understands).Based upon that metadata it'll do genre/studio/release date sorting, and keeps track of your watch &amp; partly-watched videos.Has about 3-4 themes (supported by the respective authors) and within those themes a series of views (poster, banner, coverflow, thumbnail, etc.
).Also MB had a Music plug-in in the works (haven't tried it).And it can handle VMC and W7MC recorded videos.
(also haven't tried personally)You can also look towards MyMovies but that is really DVD-centric.
Although it is a great source for movie metadata.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307182</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>Mista2</author>
	<datestamp>1259598960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then boycott their service. If enough people do it, they will have to change their delivery.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then boycott their service .
If enough people do it , they will have to change their delivery .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then boycott their service.
If enough people do it, they will have to change their delivery.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304112</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30308666</id>
	<title>Re:Popcorn Hour?</title>
	<author>angelbunny</author>
	<datestamp>1259837280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This doesn't play live TV?</p><p>Does it have an advantage over Plex, XBMC, Boxee,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This does n't play live TV ? Does it have an advantage over Plex , XBMC , Boxee , ... ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This doesn't play live TV?Does it have an advantage over Plex, XBMC, Boxee, ...?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304616</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305012</id>
	<title>Re:Sound dropping out and elusive PVRs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259584020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>PVRs are scarce because TiVo sues them out of existence.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>PVRs are scarce because TiVo sues them out of existence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PVRs are scarce because TiVo sues them out of existence.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304322</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307418</id>
	<title>Re:For viewing? LG BD390</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259601360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can you be more specific about this please?  I checked the manual over at lg's web site.  It definitely doesn't understand NUV files.  Are you transcoding your myth files?  To what format?</p><p>Thank you.  This could really help me out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you be more specific about this please ?
I checked the manual over at lg 's web site .
It definitely does n't understand NUV files .
Are you transcoding your myth files ?
To what format ? Thank you .
This could really help me out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you be more specific about this please?
I checked the manual over at lg's web site.
It definitely doesn't understand NUV files.
Are you transcoding your myth files?
To what format?Thank you.
This could really help me out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303968</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305432</id>
	<title>Best on Mac:  EyeTV; Best on Windows: SnapStream M</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259585880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Best on Mac:  EyeTV; Best on Windows: SnapStream Media</p><p>Windows Media Center is notoriously hard to set up TV tuner and IR. If you get it going, God willling, you can stream to other Windows PCs (Vista and even better with Windows 7) or to your TV through an xBox 360.  Or just pay for an xBox 260 gold subscription and you'll be able to stream Netflix instant movies and anything on your Media Center PCs or Windows Home Server.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Best on Mac : EyeTV ; Best on Windows : SnapStream MediaWindows Media Center is notoriously hard to set up TV tuner and IR .
If you get it going , God willling , you can stream to other Windows PCs ( Vista and even better with Windows 7 ) or to your TV through an xBox 360 .
Or just pay for an xBox 260 gold subscription and you 'll be able to stream Netflix instant movies and anything on your Media Center PCs or Windows Home Server .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Best on Mac:  EyeTV; Best on Windows: SnapStream MediaWindows Media Center is notoriously hard to set up TV tuner and IR.
If you get it going, God willling, you can stream to other Windows PCs (Vista and even better with Windows 7) or to your TV through an xBox 360.
Or just pay for an xBox 260 gold subscription and you'll be able to stream Netflix instant movies and anything on your Media Center PCs or Windows Home Server.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307642</id>
	<title>Re:For viewing? LG BD390</title>
	<author>llamalad</author>
	<datestamp>1259604420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To address the transcoding aspect, it plays lots of formats. MPG as I mentioned already, but also mkv's. I'll eventually be transcoding all of my recordings into mkv's.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To address the transcoding aspect , it plays lots of formats .
MPG as I mentioned already , but also mkv 's .
I 'll eventually be transcoding all of my recordings into mkv 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To address the transcoding aspect, it plays lots of formats.
MPG as I mentioned already, but also mkv's.
I'll eventually be transcoding all of my recordings into mkv's.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306128</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>wolrahnaes</author>
	<datestamp>1259589780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One more vote for MCE.</p><p>-CableCARD support<br>-Netflix client built in (though no HD for now)<br>-Great remote<br>-Very simple but functional UI<br>-Free if you have a half-decent edition of either of the last two Windows releases<br>-Xbox (with software), Xbox 360, and numerous other devices supported as extenders for a single central home DVR</p><p>I won't give up my HD cable channels, so Windows MCE, TiVo, and Moxi are the three options, end of story.  Only one of those allows me to build my own machine and centralize all the tuners.  If Myth or one of the others gains CableCARD support in the future, they might be worth considering.  Until then...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One more vote for MCE.-CableCARD support-Netflix client built in ( though no HD for now ) -Great remote-Very simple but functional UI-Free if you have a half-decent edition of either of the last two Windows releases-Xbox ( with software ) , Xbox 360 , and numerous other devices supported as extenders for a single central home DVRI wo n't give up my HD cable channels , so Windows MCE , TiVo , and Moxi are the three options , end of story .
Only one of those allows me to build my own machine and centralize all the tuners .
If Myth or one of the others gains CableCARD support in the future , they might be worth considering .
Until then.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One more vote for MCE.-CableCARD support-Netflix client built in (though no HD for now)-Great remote-Very simple but functional UI-Free if you have a half-decent edition of either of the last two Windows releases-Xbox (with software), Xbox 360, and numerous other devices supported as extenders for a single central home DVRI won't give up my HD cable channels, so Windows MCE, TiVo, and Moxi are the three options, end of story.
Only one of those allows me to build my own machine and centralize all the tuners.
If Myth or one of the others gains CableCARD support in the future, they might be worth considering.
Until then...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30323822</id>
	<title>Re:SageTV on XP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259942700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've tried almost all the Media Center packages mentioned here.  SageTV is in my opinion the MOST robust solution.  Couple of reasons why;</p><p>SageTV is the only Client / Server Media Center software I am aware of that supports Windows (incl. WHS), Linux and Mac platforms.<br>Supports the HD-PVR device allowing use of the analog "hole" on most STB's.<br>Supports R5000 mod.<br>Excellent plugin / customization support including commercial skipping, custom UI, and PlayOn Support.<br>Support for playing ripped DVD / Bluray formats.<br>Dedicated hardware extender, PC based software and placeshifter clients available.<br>Dedicated and active community.</p><p>With the announcement that Cable Card would be available to OEM's, I would expect Sage to add support in the near future as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've tried almost all the Media Center packages mentioned here .
SageTV is in my opinion the MOST robust solution .
Couple of reasons why ; SageTV is the only Client / Server Media Center software I am aware of that supports Windows ( incl .
WHS ) , Linux and Mac platforms.Supports the HD-PVR device allowing use of the analog " hole " on most STB 's.Supports R5000 mod.Excellent plugin / customization support including commercial skipping , custom UI , and PlayOn Support.Support for playing ripped DVD / Bluray formats.Dedicated hardware extender , PC based software and placeshifter clients available.Dedicated and active community.With the announcement that Cable Card would be available to OEM 's , I would expect Sage to add support in the near future as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've tried almost all the Media Center packages mentioned here.
SageTV is in my opinion the MOST robust solution.
Couple of reasons why;SageTV is the only Client / Server Media Center software I am aware of that supports Windows (incl.
WHS), Linux and Mac platforms.Supports the HD-PVR device allowing use of the analog "hole" on most STB's.Supports R5000 mod.Excellent plugin / customization support including commercial skipping, custom UI, and PlayOn Support.Support for playing ripped DVD / Bluray formats.Dedicated hardware extender, PC based software and placeshifter clients available.Dedicated and active community.With the announcement that Cable Card would be available to OEM's, I would expect Sage to add support in the near future as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30316288</id>
	<title>Re:XBMC</title>
	<author>bill\_mcgonigle</author>
	<datestamp>1259835300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are they giving credit on the text-only affiliate links?  I read that you needed to include images (not sure how they'd know).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are they giving credit on the text-only affiliate links ?
I read that you needed to include images ( not sure how they 'd know ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are they giving credit on the text-only affiliate links?
I read that you needed to include images (not sure how they'd know).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304192</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30309754</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>Unequivocal</author>
	<datestamp>1259853300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sony too - as Netflix streams to PS3 which as far as I know doesn't support Silverlight?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sony too - as Netflix streams to PS3 which as far as I know does n't support Silverlight ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sony too - as Netflix streams to PS3 which as far as I know doesn't support Silverlight?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303968</id>
	<title>For viewing? LG BD390</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259580120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm still using MythTV for recording TV, but I'm currently selling off my MythFrontends.</p><p>For viewing I've switched to an LG BD390. Much less hassle, plays everything I've thrown at (including HD streams recorded by the MythBackend) via UPnP and also does NetFlix and YouTube streaming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm still using MythTV for recording TV , but I 'm currently selling off my MythFrontends.For viewing I 've switched to an LG BD390 .
Much less hassle , plays everything I 've thrown at ( including HD streams recorded by the MythBackend ) via UPnP and also does NetFlix and YouTube streaming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm still using MythTV for recording TV, but I'm currently selling off my MythFrontends.For viewing I've switched to an LG BD390.
Much less hassle, plays everything I've thrown at (including HD streams recorded by the MythBackend) via UPnP and also does NetFlix and YouTube streaming.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304334</id>
	<title>Combo package</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use a combo, Windows MCE 2005 (XP basically) for recording Austar (satallite pay tv), WebschedulerDVB for free to aid digital channels and record both to MSDVR format, use crunchie to convert to mpeg4<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.AVI files on the Windows Home Server I have, and XBMC on the main tv computer and every other pc for playback anywhere in the house</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use a combo , Windows MCE 2005 ( XP basically ) for recording Austar ( satallite pay tv ) , WebschedulerDVB for free to aid digital channels and record both to MSDVR format , use crunchie to convert to mpeg4 .AVI files on the Windows Home Server I have , and XBMC on the main tv computer and every other pc for playback anywhere in the house</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use a combo, Windows MCE 2005 (XP basically) for recording Austar (satallite pay tv), WebschedulerDVB for free to aid digital channels and record both to MSDVR format, use crunchie to convert to mpeg4 .AVI files on the Windows Home Server I have, and XBMC on the main tv computer and every other pc for playback anywhere in the house</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30308100</id>
	<title>Boxee.tv</title>
	<author>wfleming</author>
	<datestamp>1259870460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Take a look at <a href="http://www.boxee.tv/" title="boxee.tv" rel="nofollow">http://www.boxee.tv/</a> [boxee.tv] multi-platform, netflix, just to name a few of the functions and apps. New beta coming december 7th... I've used it for a few months and like what it can do, excited for the beta.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Take a look at http : //www.boxee.tv/ [ boxee.tv ] multi-platform , netflix , just to name a few of the functions and apps .
New beta coming december 7th... I 've used it for a few months and like what it can do , excited for the beta .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take a look at http://www.boxee.tv/ [boxee.tv] multi-platform, netflix, just to name a few of the functions and apps.
New beta coming december 7th... I've used it for a few months and like what it can do, excited for the beta.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30310914</id>
	<title>Re:What if I don't need recording capability?</title>
	<author>andre\_pl</author>
	<datestamp>1259859000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you're not intetrested in recording or cable TV, XBMC is BY FAR the better solution.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're not intetrested in recording or cable TV , XBMC is BY FAR the better solution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're not intetrested in recording or cable TV, XBMC is BY FAR the better solution.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306090</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The "tweak" for supporting a lot of downloaded video in MCE is to install the codecs and filters for the formats. You can get 90\% of  what you want by grabbing one of the large community packs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The " tweak " for supporting a lot of downloaded video in MCE is to install the codecs and filters for the formats .
You can get 90 \ % of what you want by grabbing one of the large community packs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The "tweak" for supporting a lot of downloaded video in MCE is to install the codecs and filters for the formats.
You can get 90\% of  what you want by grabbing one of the large community packs.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304816</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30314592</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>majid\_aldo</author>
	<datestamp>1259871660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>but you can't build a custom windows pc with cablecard card support.</htmltext>
<tokenext>but you ca n't build a custom windows pc with cablecard card support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but you can't build a custom windows pc with cablecard card support.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303918</id>
	<title>TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>powerlord</author>
	<datestamp>1259579940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Original Questioner asks " So my questions to you: What DVR software do you use? Are you happy with it? What don't you like? Are there any packages out there that 'just work' as media hubs and for time-shifting cable TV?"</p><p>I realize that the TITLE says "PC based DVR software" and the questioner certainly mentions only that, but they don't mention commercial solutions at all, so I'll throw in my answer:</p><p>TiVo</p><p>I have a Series3 that I bought with a lifetime contract ~2 years ago.  I do not pay a monthly fee, and as of now, I am "saving" that cost (the lifetime contract covers ~ 2 - 2.5 years of monthly service fees).</p><p>- It has two built in tuners.<br>- It integrates with most IR remotes.<br>- It can be controlled via IP (there are free remotes for iPhone/IPod and other devices to control it, etc.)<br>- TiVo maintains a web site where you can log in and tell your DVR to record something.<br>- Any Internet enabled TiVo (Series3, TiVoHD, TiVoHD-XL) can also hook into AmazonVideo, Netflix and Blockbuster accounts.</p><p>- It also passes "the wife" test.</p><p>Outside of initial setup (when we were on cable TV and I had to get TWC to come out and put CableCards in the thing), the ONLY maintenance I've had to do is reset its listings when we decided to drop cable completely and switch to using an Over-The-Air antenna, and changing the batteries in the remote.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Original Questioner asks " So my questions to you : What DVR software do you use ?
Are you happy with it ?
What do n't you like ?
Are there any packages out there that 'just work ' as media hubs and for time-shifting cable TV ?
" I realize that the TITLE says " PC based DVR software " and the questioner certainly mentions only that , but they do n't mention commercial solutions at all , so I 'll throw in my answer : TiVoI have a Series3 that I bought with a lifetime contract ~ 2 years ago .
I do not pay a monthly fee , and as of now , I am " saving " that cost ( the lifetime contract covers ~ 2 - 2.5 years of monthly service fees ) .- It has two built in tuners.- It integrates with most IR remotes.- It can be controlled via IP ( there are free remotes for iPhone/IPod and other devices to control it , etc .
) - TiVo maintains a web site where you can log in and tell your DVR to record something.- Any Internet enabled TiVo ( Series3 , TiVoHD , TiVoHD-XL ) can also hook into AmazonVideo , Netflix and Blockbuster accounts.- It also passes " the wife " test.Outside of initial setup ( when we were on cable TV and I had to get TWC to come out and put CableCards in the thing ) , the ONLY maintenance I 've had to do is reset its listings when we decided to drop cable completely and switch to using an Over-The-Air antenna , and changing the batteries in the remote .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Original Questioner asks " So my questions to you: What DVR software do you use?
Are you happy with it?
What don't you like?
Are there any packages out there that 'just work' as media hubs and for time-shifting cable TV?
"I realize that the TITLE says "PC based DVR software" and the questioner certainly mentions only that, but they don't mention commercial solutions at all, so I'll throw in my answer:TiVoI have a Series3 that I bought with a lifetime contract ~2 years ago.
I do not pay a monthly fee, and as of now, I am "saving" that cost (the lifetime contract covers ~ 2 - 2.5 years of monthly service fees).- It has two built in tuners.- It integrates with most IR remotes.- It can be controlled via IP (there are free remotes for iPhone/IPod and other devices to control it, etc.
)- TiVo maintains a web site where you can log in and tell your DVR to record something.- Any Internet enabled TiVo (Series3, TiVoHD, TiVoHD-XL) can also hook into AmazonVideo, Netflix and Blockbuster accounts.- It also passes "the wife" test.Outside of initial setup (when we were on cable TV and I had to get TWC to come out and put CableCards in the thing), the ONLY maintenance I've had to do is reset its listings when we decided to drop cable completely and switch to using an Over-The-Air antenna, and changing the batteries in the remote.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303884</id>
	<title>Windows MCE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259579880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was in the same boat as you, I even contributed to an open source solution. The one that just works out of the box is MCE. Its not extendable, but it is completely solid (at least on Vista and I assume Windows 7). Setup only takes a couple of minutes, and then everything just works. It misses the nerd factor of installing all sorts of half completed plugins and configuring for hours, but it was much better for my sanity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was in the same boat as you , I even contributed to an open source solution .
The one that just works out of the box is MCE .
Its not extendable , but it is completely solid ( at least on Vista and I assume Windows 7 ) .
Setup only takes a couple of minutes , and then everything just works .
It misses the nerd factor of installing all sorts of half completed plugins and configuring for hours , but it was much better for my sanity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was in the same boat as you, I even contributed to an open source solution.
The one that just works out of the box is MCE.
Its not extendable, but it is completely solid (at least on Vista and I assume Windows 7).
Setup only takes a couple of minutes, and then everything just works.
It misses the nerd factor of installing all sorts of half completed plugins and configuring for hours, but it was much better for my sanity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306456</id>
	<title>why not just buy a cheap dvd player</title>
	<author>mcmoyer</author>
	<datestamp>1259592480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>before I'd endure the pain of windows media center, I'd just buy a dvd player to supplement the mythfrontend.</p><p>I tried sage, beyondTV and windows media center.  The main problem was they were all based on windows.  If something wasn't working right, it was very hard to tell what the issue might be.  The logging in linux is so much better.  Random lockups and reboots were also an issue for me.  Interestingly enough, the same hardware worked fine using mythtv.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>before I 'd endure the pain of windows media center , I 'd just buy a dvd player to supplement the mythfrontend.I tried sage , beyondTV and windows media center .
The main problem was they were all based on windows .
If something was n't working right , it was very hard to tell what the issue might be .
The logging in linux is so much better .
Random lockups and reboots were also an issue for me .
Interestingly enough , the same hardware worked fine using mythtv .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>before I'd endure the pain of windows media center, I'd just buy a dvd player to supplement the mythfrontend.I tried sage, beyondTV and windows media center.
The main problem was they were all based on windows.
If something wasn't working right, it was very hard to tell what the issue might be.
The logging in linux is so much better.
Random lockups and reboots were also an issue for me.
Interestingly enough, the same hardware worked fine using mythtv.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306442</id>
	<title>Re:SageTV on XP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep, I too have to give SageTV a big thumbs up.</p><p>A couple of advantages I see with it over the competitor's:<br>1) A very open platform that allows mod's to change the UI or add additional functionality (such as on screen caller ID or auto-commercial skip), and a very active modding community.</p><p>2) Runs on Linux, Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows Home Server</p><p>3) Has placeshifter functionality that allows you to watch your recorded shows over the web</p><p>4) Has SD or HD hardware extenders that allow you to extend the interface to anywhere you can get ethernet.  This includes the whole interface (including mods if desired) so you can schedule TV and/or watch live TV from any extenders</p><p>5) Free built-in access to EPG data in North America.</p><p>6) Built in ability to play ripped DVD's or ripped Blu-Ray's on the HD extender</p><p>Now the downsides...<br>1) Many find the built-in interface is ugly.  Personally I prefer function over form, so with a very few tweaks, I find it ok.</p><p>2) Closed source.</p><p>3) Proprietary development technology for mods.  It includes it's own development studio (I believe it's Eclipse based) for building mods.  It apparently can load/run java code, but I've never gotten too far into the modding side of it.</p><p>4) Somewhat complex setup.  If you want to use all the bells/whistles, you need to invest some time to figure out how to set things up.</p><p>All that being said, I love it. Overall it's the best value I've ever gotten for a piece of software.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , I too have to give SageTV a big thumbs up.A couple of advantages I see with it over the competitor 's : 1 ) A very open platform that allows mod 's to change the UI or add additional functionality ( such as on screen caller ID or auto-commercial skip ) , and a very active modding community.2 ) Runs on Linux , Windows XP , Windows 7 , Windows Home Server3 ) Has placeshifter functionality that allows you to watch your recorded shows over the web4 ) Has SD or HD hardware extenders that allow you to extend the interface to anywhere you can get ethernet .
This includes the whole interface ( including mods if desired ) so you can schedule TV and/or watch live TV from any extenders5 ) Free built-in access to EPG data in North America.6 ) Built in ability to play ripped DVD 's or ripped Blu-Ray 's on the HD extenderNow the downsides...1 ) Many find the built-in interface is ugly .
Personally I prefer function over form , so with a very few tweaks , I find it ok.2 ) Closed source.3 ) Proprietary development technology for mods .
It includes it 's own development studio ( I believe it 's Eclipse based ) for building mods .
It apparently can load/run java code , but I 've never gotten too far into the modding side of it.4 ) Somewhat complex setup .
If you want to use all the bells/whistles , you need to invest some time to figure out how to set things up.All that being said , I love it .
Overall it 's the best value I 've ever gotten for a piece of software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, I too have to give SageTV a big thumbs up.A couple of advantages I see with it over the competitor's:1) A very open platform that allows mod's to change the UI or add additional functionality (such as on screen caller ID or auto-commercial skip), and a very active modding community.2) Runs on Linux, Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows Home Server3) Has placeshifter functionality that allows you to watch your recorded shows over the web4) Has SD or HD hardware extenders that allow you to extend the interface to anywhere you can get ethernet.
This includes the whole interface (including mods if desired) so you can schedule TV and/or watch live TV from any extenders5) Free built-in access to EPG data in North America.6) Built in ability to play ripped DVD's or ripped Blu-Ray's on the HD extenderNow the downsides...1) Many find the built-in interface is ugly.
Personally I prefer function over form, so with a very few tweaks, I find it ok.2) Closed source.3) Proprietary development technology for mods.
It includes it's own development studio (I believe it's Eclipse based) for building mods.
It apparently can load/run java code, but I've never gotten too far into the modding side of it.4) Somewhat complex setup.
If you want to use all the bells/whistles, you need to invest some time to figure out how to set things up.All that being said, I love it.
Overall it's the best value I've ever gotten for a piece of software.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303800</id>
	<title>SageTV on XP</title>
	<author>FormulaTroll</author>
	<datestamp>1259579640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use Sage TV (<a href="http://www.sage.tv/" title="www.sage.tv" rel="nofollow">http://www.sage.tv/</a> [www.sage.tv]) on XP (If you're going to end up going that route anyways). It's been pretty reliable and I like the interface.

I've also considered moving to Windows 7. I hear the media center functionality built in is pretty robust.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Sage TV ( http : //www.sage.tv/ [ www.sage.tv ] ) on XP ( If you 're going to end up going that route anyways ) .
It 's been pretty reliable and I like the interface .
I 've also considered moving to Windows 7 .
I hear the media center functionality built in is pretty robust .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Sage TV (http://www.sage.tv/ [www.sage.tv]) on XP (If you're going to end up going that route anyways).
It's been pretty reliable and I like the interface.
I've also considered moving to Windows 7.
I hear the media center functionality built in is pretty robust.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306302</id>
	<title>WinXP Virtual + PlayOn = Netflix on linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259591220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To take care of the netflix problem, take a look at PlayOn (http://www.playon.tv/playon).  They're actually running a 50\% off special through today so you could get it for like $20 for a lifetime subscription.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To take care of the netflix problem , take a look at PlayOn ( http : //www.playon.tv/playon ) .
They 're actually running a 50 \ % off special through today so you could get it for like $ 20 for a lifetime subscription .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To take care of the netflix problem, take a look at PlayOn (http://www.playon.tv/playon).
They're actually running a 50\% off special through today so you could get it for like $20 for a lifetime subscription.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307168</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>s-orbital</author>
	<datestamp>1259598900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The way to pull that off, while not an option to most, is to get a TV that has netflix streaming built in, or a Roku, or other Device. The LG TV that I just got does this, and works well. My only other compaint is that Netflix's online streaming selection is rather limited.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The way to pull that off , while not an option to most , is to get a TV that has netflix streaming built in , or a Roku , or other Device .
The LG TV that I just got does this , and works well .
My only other compaint is that Netflix 's online streaming selection is rather limited .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The way to pull that off, while not an option to most, is to get a TV that has netflix streaming built in, or a Roku, or other Device.
The LG TV that I just got does this, and works well.
My only other compaint is that Netflix's online streaming selection is rather limited.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305598</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>jtownatpunk.net</author>
	<datestamp>1259586600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, pretty much this.</p><p>PC-based software has come a long way but it's never caught up to the "it just freakin' works" factor of Tivo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , pretty much this.PC-based software has come a long way but it 's never caught up to the " it just freakin ' works " factor of Tivo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, pretty much this.PC-based software has come a long way but it's never caught up to the "it just freakin' works" factor of Tivo.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304570</id>
	<title>Windows 7 Media Center, Hands Down</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259582340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've searched like you. For a long time I used GB-PVR, and while it's great, it isn't as pretty and flashy. Very functional with the right plugins, and if you like tinkering, it's awesome.

I recently moved to Windows 7 Media Center. I am a sorta open source kind of guy, but wow. I am totally blown away by 7 Media Center. I've been setting up boxes for everyone I know and they are loving them. Give it a try, I bet you'll be surprised, especially as a DVR. It just rocks.

And when (if) CableCards get popular, you will be able to use it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've searched like you .
For a long time I used GB-PVR , and while it 's great , it is n't as pretty and flashy .
Very functional with the right plugins , and if you like tinkering , it 's awesome .
I recently moved to Windows 7 Media Center .
I am a sorta open source kind of guy , but wow .
I am totally blown away by 7 Media Center .
I 've been setting up boxes for everyone I know and they are loving them .
Give it a try , I bet you 'll be surprised , especially as a DVR .
It just rocks .
And when ( if ) CableCards get popular , you will be able to use it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've searched like you.
For a long time I used GB-PVR, and while it's great, it isn't as pretty and flashy.
Very functional with the right plugins, and if you like tinkering, it's awesome.
I recently moved to Windows 7 Media Center.
I am a sorta open source kind of guy, but wow.
I am totally blown away by 7 Media Center.
I've been setting up boxes for everyone I know and they are loving them.
Give it a try, I bet you'll be surprised, especially as a DVR.
It just rocks.
And when (if) CableCards get popular, you will be able to use it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306396</id>
	<title>Some options</title>
	<author>IronChef</author>
	<datestamp>1259591940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have used SageTV on WinXP to timeshift OTA HD and play back other media. It works pretty well, and I even got auto commercial skipping with some cheap shareware addons. But as you probably know getting PREMIUM cable/sat programming into your computer can be a hassle.</p><p>Xbox Media Center I have also found to be a very nice front end for playing back media though I don't think it does TV recording. Despite the name it does not just run on Xboxes. But beware, XBMC is not easy to set up and it has about the most hostile forums I have ever seen, full of "read the damn sticky n00b" replies to questions--and the sticky is actually out of date! Put a long evening in to it and get it running, and it's nice though. It supports every media file I have tried, even lets you switch audio tracks in MKVs.</p><p>If you can separate the television and "other media" playback tasks your life may be easier because recording premium TV shows is a pain in the ass and there are few good computer solutions. Like someone else said, maybe just get a Tivo for TV and netflix, and play back your other media files with a computer. If you have a good smart remote setup, context switching between the television DVR and the HTPC you use for everything else isn't even a big deal, just a button press and a few seconds.</p><p>Good luck.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have used SageTV on WinXP to timeshift OTA HD and play back other media .
It works pretty well , and I even got auto commercial skipping with some cheap shareware addons .
But as you probably know getting PREMIUM cable/sat programming into your computer can be a hassle.Xbox Media Center I have also found to be a very nice front end for playing back media though I do n't think it does TV recording .
Despite the name it does not just run on Xboxes .
But beware , XBMC is not easy to set up and it has about the most hostile forums I have ever seen , full of " read the damn sticky n00b " replies to questions--and the sticky is actually out of date !
Put a long evening in to it and get it running , and it 's nice though .
It supports every media file I have tried , even lets you switch audio tracks in MKVs.If you can separate the television and " other media " playback tasks your life may be easier because recording premium TV shows is a pain in the ass and there are few good computer solutions .
Like someone else said , maybe just get a Tivo for TV and netflix , and play back your other media files with a computer .
If you have a good smart remote setup , context switching between the television DVR and the HTPC you use for everything else is n't even a big deal , just a button press and a few seconds.Good luck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have used SageTV on WinXP to timeshift OTA HD and play back other media.
It works pretty well, and I even got auto commercial skipping with some cheap shareware addons.
But as you probably know getting PREMIUM cable/sat programming into your computer can be a hassle.Xbox Media Center I have also found to be a very nice front end for playing back media though I don't think it does TV recording.
Despite the name it does not just run on Xboxes.
But beware, XBMC is not easy to set up and it has about the most hostile forums I have ever seen, full of "read the damn sticky n00b" replies to questions--and the sticky is actually out of date!
Put a long evening in to it and get it running, and it's nice though.
It supports every media file I have tried, even lets you switch audio tracks in MKVs.If you can separate the television and "other media" playback tasks your life may be easier because recording premium TV shows is a pain in the ass and there are few good computer solutions.
Like someone else said, maybe just get a Tivo for TV and netflix, and play back your other media files with a computer.
If you have a good smart remote setup, context switching between the television DVR and the HTPC you use for everything else isn't even a big deal, just a button press and a few seconds.Good luck.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304196</id>
	<title>Another satisfied SageTV user</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259580960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been using SageTV for more than a year. Very feature rich, supports the server on Windows, Mac, or Linux, and has a large user customization base. I'm using their HD Theater media extenders with the server software running on an old Pentium 4 out in the garage fitted with an Over The Air HD recording card. With MediaMall's PlayOn running on my main PC, I have Netflix streaming, Comedy Central, and lots of other online steaming content. I've kissed cable TV goodbye (but the recording cards still support it if you need it).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using SageTV for more than a year .
Very feature rich , supports the server on Windows , Mac , or Linux , and has a large user customization base .
I 'm using their HD Theater media extenders with the server software running on an old Pentium 4 out in the garage fitted with an Over The Air HD recording card .
With MediaMall 's PlayOn running on my main PC , I have Netflix streaming , Comedy Central , and lots of other online steaming content .
I 've kissed cable TV goodbye ( but the recording cards still support it if you need it ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using SageTV for more than a year.
Very feature rich, supports the server on Windows, Mac, or Linux, and has a large user customization base.
I'm using their HD Theater media extenders with the server software running on an old Pentium 4 out in the garage fitted with an Over The Air HD recording card.
With MediaMall's PlayOn running on my main PC, I have Netflix streaming, Comedy Central, and lots of other online steaming content.
I've kissed cable TV goodbye (but the recording cards still support it if you need it).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304686</id>
	<title>What if I don't need recording capability?</title>
	<author>Ritz\_Just\_Ritz</author>
	<datestamp>1259582640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been looking for a media jukebox that I can dump all my audio/video content onto.  I *never* watch cable TV and have no interest in recording it or watching it with the system.  What would be a good solution for this?  I'd prefer to stick with something that runs on Ubuntu 'cuz that's what my extra box is currently running.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been looking for a media jukebox that I can dump all my audio/video content onto .
I * never * watch cable TV and have no interest in recording it or watching it with the system .
What would be a good solution for this ?
I 'd prefer to stick with something that runs on Ubuntu 'cuz that 's what my extra box is currently running .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been looking for a media jukebox that I can dump all my audio/video content onto.
I *never* watch cable TV and have no interest in recording it or watching it with the system.
What would be a good solution for this?
I'd prefer to stick with something that runs on Ubuntu 'cuz that's what my extra box is currently running.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304262</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not to mention why is someone using a PC to watch DVDs, especially if there's problems? Upconverting DVD players can be had for $50 now. They're approaching "free in your breakfast cereal" levels.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention why is someone using a PC to watch DVDs , especially if there 's problems ?
Upconverting DVD players can be had for $ 50 now .
They 're approaching " free in your breakfast cereal " levels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention why is someone using a PC to watch DVDs, especially if there's problems?
Upconverting DVD players can be had for $50 now.
They're approaching "free in your breakfast cereal" levels.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30309468</id>
	<title>Try changing the priority of MythTV</title>
	<author>bradbury</author>
	<datestamp>1259850840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've noticed similar problems (sound drops in alsaplayer, javascript timeouts in chromium, etc.) -- particularly if anything else is running (even at nice -19).  This can somewhat be helped by running alsaplayer with the "--realtime" option.  I've glanced at the code and it doesn't do everything right (it tries to lock the entire program (and presumably all of the sound drivers (which it may not need) into memory and it does setup the process scheduling for realtime scheduling.  I do not know if mythtv tries to do similar things, but if you are going to run "realtime" programs trying to at least consider these aspects.  If mythtv is competing as a "normal" process with those which are running under Linux then you will see this type of behavior.  You might try using "chrt" with "--fifo" scheduling and try bumping the priority up to see if it runs better.  Be advised -- its a good idea to have a root shell handy that runs at the highest priority available (which can vary depending on your system and how the per-user priority allowances are setup) so if something runs amok you can kill it without having to reboot the system.  You may have to chrt the various myth processes if its running a multi-process model rather than a multi-thread model (chromium has the option of running several models).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've noticed similar problems ( sound drops in alsaplayer , javascript timeouts in chromium , etc .
) -- particularly if anything else is running ( even at nice -19 ) .
This can somewhat be helped by running alsaplayer with the " --realtime " option .
I 've glanced at the code and it does n't do everything right ( it tries to lock the entire program ( and presumably all of the sound drivers ( which it may not need ) into memory and it does setup the process scheduling for realtime scheduling .
I do not know if mythtv tries to do similar things , but if you are going to run " realtime " programs trying to at least consider these aspects .
If mythtv is competing as a " normal " process with those which are running under Linux then you will see this type of behavior .
You might try using " chrt " with " --fifo " scheduling and try bumping the priority up to see if it runs better .
Be advised -- its a good idea to have a root shell handy that runs at the highest priority available ( which can vary depending on your system and how the per-user priority allowances are setup ) so if something runs amok you can kill it without having to reboot the system .
You may have to chrt the various myth processes if its running a multi-process model rather than a multi-thread model ( chromium has the option of running several models ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've noticed similar problems (sound drops in alsaplayer, javascript timeouts in chromium, etc.
) -- particularly if anything else is running (even at nice -19).
This can somewhat be helped by running alsaplayer with the "--realtime" option.
I've glanced at the code and it doesn't do everything right (it tries to lock the entire program (and presumably all of the sound drivers (which it may not need) into memory and it does setup the process scheduling for realtime scheduling.
I do not know if mythtv tries to do similar things, but if you are going to run "realtime" programs trying to at least consider these aspects.
If mythtv is competing as a "normal" process with those which are running under Linux then you will see this type of behavior.
You might try using "chrt" with "--fifo" scheduling and try bumping the priority up to see if it runs better.
Be advised -- its a good idea to have a root shell handy that runs at the highest priority available (which can vary depending on your system and how the per-user priority allowances are setup) so if something runs amok you can kill it without having to reboot the system.
You may have to chrt the various myth processes if its running a multi-process model rather than a multi-thread model (chromium has the option of running several models).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305438</id>
	<title>DRM = you're screwed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259585880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> I'm also increasingly getting pressure from my family to get things like NetFlix streaming working on this machine. This seems to imply migrating to a Windows-based solution.</p></div></blockquote><p>Yes, if you give into their pressure for you to adopt DRM, then you're going to be stuck with proprietary solutions, so 90\% of the media players out there, won't be options for you.</p><p>Other than that one detail, it sounds like your main problem with with mythfrontend, or maybe even just its internal player.  If your backend is local or mounted (nfs or Samba), you ought to be able to use xine or mplayer as an alternative to the internal player.  Or give up on mythfrontend completely and check out XBMC and its MythTV plugin script(s).  That'll let you keep MythTV as the PVR (which is pretty much unbeatable, anything else is a downgrade) while keeping your player slick and up-to-date with the latest fads.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm also increasingly getting pressure from my family to get things like NetFlix streaming working on this machine .
This seems to imply migrating to a Windows-based solution.Yes , if you give into their pressure for you to adopt DRM , then you 're going to be stuck with proprietary solutions , so 90 \ % of the media players out there , wo n't be options for you.Other than that one detail , it sounds like your main problem with with mythfrontend , or maybe even just its internal player .
If your backend is local or mounted ( nfs or Samba ) , you ought to be able to use xine or mplayer as an alternative to the internal player .
Or give up on mythfrontend completely and check out XBMC and its MythTV plugin script ( s ) .
That 'll let you keep MythTV as the PVR ( which is pretty much unbeatable , anything else is a downgrade ) while keeping your player slick and up-to-date with the latest fads .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I'm also increasingly getting pressure from my family to get things like NetFlix streaming working on this machine.
This seems to imply migrating to a Windows-based solution.Yes, if you give into their pressure for you to adopt DRM, then you're going to be stuck with proprietary solutions, so 90\% of the media players out there, won't be options for you.Other than that one detail, it sounds like your main problem with with mythfrontend, or maybe even just its internal player.
If your backend is local or mounted (nfs or Samba), you ought to be able to use xine or mplayer as an alternative to the internal player.
Or give up on mythfrontend completely and check out XBMC and its MythTV plugin script(s).
That'll let you keep MythTV as the PVR (which is pretty much unbeatable, anything else is a downgrade) while keeping your player slick and up-to-date with the latest fads.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304904</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>sandmaninator</author>
	<datestamp>1259583540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have Windows Media Center on Windows 7 Pro 64-bit connecting to Xbox360 and it does NOT just work.<br>It's constantly adding videos to the library and videos that are in my video library do not show up. Viewing my photo collection is painfully slow over 100mb wired ethernet.  I do not understand how people can like that software! Of course, I must be doing something wrong but how does one troubleshoot MS software...?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have Windows Media Center on Windows 7 Pro 64-bit connecting to Xbox360 and it does NOT just work.It 's constantly adding videos to the library and videos that are in my video library do not show up .
Viewing my photo collection is painfully slow over 100mb wired ethernet .
I do not understand how people can like that software !
Of course , I must be doing something wrong but how does one troubleshoot MS software... ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have Windows Media Center on Windows 7 Pro 64-bit connecting to Xbox360 and it does NOT just work.It's constantly adding videos to the library and videos that are in my video library do not show up.
Viewing my photo collection is painfully slow over 100mb wired ethernet.
I do not understand how people can like that software!
Of course, I must be doing something wrong but how does one troubleshoot MS software...?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306402</id>
	<title>Re:Tivo Warning</title>
	<author>powerlord</author>
	<datestamp>1259592000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I DID blame TWC.</p><p>I then realized that 90\% of what I watched was available:<br>1) Over-The-Air.  Great reception in a metropolitan city, meant I didn't NEED cable for local channels anymore.  Any TiVo that uses CableCards also has a built in HD tuner so you should already be set to go, and as an added bonus, anything you can receive over the air in Digital shouldn't have a copy flag set, and the HD quality will usually be better than cable.</p><p>2) Over-The-Internet Free.  No<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I don't mean Bit-Torrent.  I mean legitimate sources.  Most of the cable shows I wanted to see were "broadcast" on-line via Hulu, or other legitimate web-sites.</p><p>3) Over-The-Internet Paid.  Okay, sometimes it isn't always available free.  You missed the "free window" (most places only leave the last two-5 episodes on-line), or you MUST watch it as soon as everyone else.  iTunes, AmazonVideo, Sony's PSN-Video store, and who knows what other places now routinely have TV shows available the day after broadcast for ~$2-$3 an episode.  Considering you can save ~$100 a MONTH by canceling cable, you can still come out ahead.</p><p>4) Season Compilation DVDs.  If you ABSOLUTELY must see a show that is available on-line (latest season of Doctor Who being broadcast on BBC America?), and that doesn't have an OTI-Paid option, then you can almost always be sure there will be a Season Compilation DVD out soon.</p><p>The only catch was needing a HTPC to handle the Internet TV part of the equation (perhaps that should be a new "Ask Slashdot"?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) ).</p><p>The best I've found so far is a mac-mini running <a href="http://www.zeevee.com/zinc" title="zeevee.com">Zinc</a> [zeevee.com] (from ZeeVee).  It runs on Windows and OSX and is basically a stripped down version of FireFox with some specialized plug-ins.</p><p>Personally its a GREAT interface to all the free internet sources out there, I'd recommend anyone exploring internet content sources to give it a look.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I DID blame TWC.I then realized that 90 \ % of what I watched was available : 1 ) Over-The-Air .
Great reception in a metropolitan city , meant I did n't NEED cable for local channels anymore .
Any TiVo that uses CableCards also has a built in HD tuner so you should already be set to go , and as an added bonus , anything you can receive over the air in Digital should n't have a copy flag set , and the HD quality will usually be better than cable.2 ) Over-The-Internet Free .
No ... I do n't mean Bit-Torrent .
I mean legitimate sources .
Most of the cable shows I wanted to see were " broadcast " on-line via Hulu , or other legitimate web-sites.3 ) Over-The-Internet Paid .
Okay , sometimes it is n't always available free .
You missed the " free window " ( most places only leave the last two-5 episodes on-line ) , or you MUST watch it as soon as everyone else .
iTunes , AmazonVideo , Sony 's PSN-Video store , and who knows what other places now routinely have TV shows available the day after broadcast for ~ $ 2- $ 3 an episode .
Considering you can save ~ $ 100 a MONTH by canceling cable , you can still come out ahead.4 ) Season Compilation DVDs .
If you ABSOLUTELY must see a show that is available on-line ( latest season of Doctor Who being broadcast on BBC America ?
) , and that does n't have an OTI-Paid option , then you can almost always be sure there will be a Season Compilation DVD out soon.The only catch was needing a HTPC to handle the Internet TV part of the equation ( perhaps that should be a new " Ask Slashdot " ?
: ) ) .The best I 've found so far is a mac-mini running Zinc [ zeevee.com ] ( from ZeeVee ) .
It runs on Windows and OSX and is basically a stripped down version of FireFox with some specialized plug-ins.Personally its a GREAT interface to all the free internet sources out there , I 'd recommend anyone exploring internet content sources to give it a look .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I DID blame TWC.I then realized that 90\% of what I watched was available:1) Over-The-Air.
Great reception in a metropolitan city, meant I didn't NEED cable for local channels anymore.
Any TiVo that uses CableCards also has a built in HD tuner so you should already be set to go, and as an added bonus, anything you can receive over the air in Digital shouldn't have a copy flag set, and the HD quality will usually be better than cable.2) Over-The-Internet Free.
No ... I don't mean Bit-Torrent.
I mean legitimate sources.
Most of the cable shows I wanted to see were "broadcast" on-line via Hulu, or other legitimate web-sites.3) Over-The-Internet Paid.
Okay, sometimes it isn't always available free.
You missed the "free window" (most places only leave the last two-5 episodes on-line), or you MUST watch it as soon as everyone else.
iTunes, AmazonVideo, Sony's PSN-Video store, and who knows what other places now routinely have TV shows available the day after broadcast for ~$2-$3 an episode.
Considering you can save ~$100 a MONTH by canceling cable, you can still come out ahead.4) Season Compilation DVDs.
If you ABSOLUTELY must see a show that is available on-line (latest season of Doctor Who being broadcast on BBC America?
), and that doesn't have an OTI-Paid option, then you can almost always be sure there will be a Season Compilation DVD out soon.The only catch was needing a HTPC to handle the Internet TV part of the equation (perhaps that should be a new "Ask Slashdot"?
:) ).The best I've found so far is a mac-mini running Zinc [zeevee.com] (from ZeeVee).
It runs on Windows and OSX and is basically a stripped down version of FireFox with some specialized plug-ins.Personally its a GREAT interface to all the free internet sources out there, I'd recommend anyone exploring internet content sources to give it a look.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303996</id>
	<title>GBPVR</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259580240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>GBPVR works like an appliance should; easily, the first time, and always.  You can write your own plug-ins and skins, or download them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>GBPVR works like an appliance should ; easily , the first time , and always .
You can write your own plug-ins and skins , or download them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GBPVR works like an appliance should; easily, the first time, and always.
You can write your own plug-ins and skins, or download them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30308418</id>
	<title>Anonymous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259833200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Under Windows I use a freeware prog called GB PVR<br>Plays all my media (audio/video)<br>allows me to record HD/SD programs (marks advert breaks for me)<br>I can set recordings while out by using the web interface.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Under Windows I use a freeware prog called GB PVRPlays all my media ( audio/video ) allows me to record HD/SD programs ( marks advert breaks for me ) I can set recordings while out by using the web interface .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Under Windows I use a freeware prog called GB PVRPlays all my media (audio/video)allows me to record HD/SD programs (marks advert breaks for me)I can set recordings while out by using the web interface.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304772</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>Belial6</author>
	<datestamp>1259583000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The poster needs to forget using a PC for Netflix.  The video quality streamed to the PC is VASTLY inferior to what gets streamed to the Roku.  Being able to steam to your computer is great on a 17"-22" monitor, but once you start getting up to living room TV sizes, you can really see the lower quality.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The poster needs to forget using a PC for Netflix .
The video quality streamed to the PC is VASTLY inferior to what gets streamed to the Roku .
Being able to steam to your computer is great on a 17 " -22 " monitor , but once you start getting up to living room TV sizes , you can really see the lower quality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The poster needs to forget using a PC for Netflix.
The video quality streamed to the PC is VASTLY inferior to what gets streamed to the Roku.
Being able to steam to your computer is great on a 17"-22" monitor, but once you start getting up to living room TV sizes, you can really see the lower quality.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304090</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>seamonkey420</author>
	<datestamp>1259580600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>agreed on MCE.
<p>
i've used many of the other DVR/PVR applications (MythTV, SageTV, Nero, etc) but none have worked as smoothly as Media Center, Windows 7 MCE really brings its A game.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)
</p><p>
i have a remote and IR blaster and mainly use mine to record just network tv; i can also easily access any of the recorded tv shows over my homegroup on any of my other Windows 7 laptops/netbooks and even my PS3.
</p><p>
MP4 movies look and work well inside of MCE too (atleast on Win7, vista had a few issues w/MP4/h264 codecs since it didn't support it natively).

I run MCE on my HP laptop and use a MCE remote i got with my tuner card.  Netflix plugin is really well done too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>agreed on MCE .
i 've used many of the other DVR/PVR applications ( MythTV , SageTV , Nero , etc ) but none have worked as smoothly as Media Center , Windows 7 MCE really brings its A game .
: ) i have a remote and IR blaster and mainly use mine to record just network tv ; i can also easily access any of the recorded tv shows over my homegroup on any of my other Windows 7 laptops/netbooks and even my PS3 .
MP4 movies look and work well inside of MCE too ( atleast on Win7 , vista had a few issues w/MP4/h264 codecs since it did n't support it natively ) .
I run MCE on my HP laptop and use a MCE remote i got with my tuner card .
Netflix plugin is really well done too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>agreed on MCE.
i've used many of the other DVR/PVR applications (MythTV, SageTV, Nero, etc) but none have worked as smoothly as Media Center, Windows 7 MCE really brings its A game.
:)

i have a remote and IR blaster and mainly use mine to record just network tv; i can also easily access any of the recorded tv shows over my homegroup on any of my other Windows 7 laptops/netbooks and even my PS3.
MP4 movies look and work well inside of MCE too (atleast on Win7, vista had a few issues w/MP4/h264 codecs since it didn't support it natively).
I run MCE on my HP laptop and use a MCE remote i got with my tuner card.
Netflix plugin is really well done too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306244</id>
	<title>Sage TV</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259590740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I dual boot Ubuntu 9.10 and XP and try to use Ubuntu as much as I can, however there is no driver support for my TV card so I am forced to use XP for my DVR.  I tried several free apps when I first purchased the TV card and all had issues or did not work as well I wanted them to.  I found that Sage TV worked the best.  Unfortunatly it is not a free software option but in this case it was the best application for the job.  I have no complaints with it and it works great.  If you are looking for the best functionality that is my recommendation.  The free stuff worked well enough, just not great and required too many work arounds.  If your willing to put up with some frustration there are plenty of free options, but if you want something that works great then shell out the money, or find a good torrent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I dual boot Ubuntu 9.10 and XP and try to use Ubuntu as much as I can , however there is no driver support for my TV card so I am forced to use XP for my DVR .
I tried several free apps when I first purchased the TV card and all had issues or did not work as well I wanted them to .
I found that Sage TV worked the best .
Unfortunatly it is not a free software option but in this case it was the best application for the job .
I have no complaints with it and it works great .
If you are looking for the best functionality that is my recommendation .
The free stuff worked well enough , just not great and required too many work arounds .
If your willing to put up with some frustration there are plenty of free options , but if you want something that works great then shell out the money , or find a good torrent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dual boot Ubuntu 9.10 and XP and try to use Ubuntu as much as I can, however there is no driver support for my TV card so I am forced to use XP for my DVR.
I tried several free apps when I first purchased the TV card and all had issues or did not work as well I wanted them to.
I found that Sage TV worked the best.
Unfortunatly it is not a free software option but in this case it was the best application for the job.
I have no complaints with it and it works great.
If you are looking for the best functionality that is my recommendation.
The free stuff worked well enough, just not great and required too many work arounds.
If your willing to put up with some frustration there are plenty of free options, but if you want something that works great then shell out the money, or find a good torrent.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307082</id>
	<title>Re:MythTV automatic commercial skipping</title>
	<author>PhracturedBlue</author>
	<datestamp>1259598120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love MythTv, and have been using it for years and years, but it is absolutely not easy (though  I have more obscure hardware, and have never used mythbuntu).  I've also tried being a sysadmin for my friends' myth boxes....I would never wish that on anyone.  The stability has always been the biggest issue.  Random crashes are extroadinarily annoying.  With Firewire, I found recording very unreliable, image quality is very dependant on the capture method. But I haven't seem anything that can support my High-Def recording with auto-commercial detection, and for that,I'm willing to stick with it.</p><p>I've heard that you can run 'Play On!' in a virtual-machine on windows to convert netflix to upnp streams (which can then be watched on Linux).  I haven't tried it myself though.  Certainly not ideal, but perhaps viable for those certain use models.</p><p>Also Blu-Ray is still really hard in Linux.  I've considered a Windows MythTV frontend with a linux backend which might give me the flexibility I want, but I don't think there's a good integrated solution for that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love MythTv , and have been using it for years and years , but it is absolutely not easy ( though I have more obscure hardware , and have never used mythbuntu ) .
I 've also tried being a sysadmin for my friends ' myth boxes....I would never wish that on anyone .
The stability has always been the biggest issue .
Random crashes are extroadinarily annoying .
With Firewire , I found recording very unreliable , image quality is very dependant on the capture method .
But I have n't seem anything that can support my High-Def recording with auto-commercial detection , and for that,I 'm willing to stick with it.I 've heard that you can run 'Play On !
' in a virtual-machine on windows to convert netflix to upnp streams ( which can then be watched on Linux ) .
I have n't tried it myself though .
Certainly not ideal , but perhaps viable for those certain use models.Also Blu-Ray is still really hard in Linux .
I 've considered a Windows MythTV frontend with a linux backend which might give me the flexibility I want , but I do n't think there 's a good integrated solution for that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love MythTv, and have been using it for years and years, but it is absolutely not easy (though  I have more obscure hardware, and have never used mythbuntu).
I've also tried being a sysadmin for my friends' myth boxes....I would never wish that on anyone.
The stability has always been the biggest issue.
Random crashes are extroadinarily annoying.
With Firewire, I found recording very unreliable, image quality is very dependant on the capture method.
But I haven't seem anything that can support my High-Def recording with auto-commercial detection, and for that,I'm willing to stick with it.I've heard that you can run 'Play On!
' in a virtual-machine on windows to convert netflix to upnp streams (which can then be watched on Linux).
I haven't tried it myself though.
Certainly not ideal, but perhaps viable for those certain use models.Also Blu-Ray is still really hard in Linux.
I've considered a Windows MythTV frontend with a linux backend which might give me the flexibility I want, but I don't think there's a good integrated solution for that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304478</id>
	<title>The mess in the Media/Audio/Video Market</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259582040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Truth is that ferocious trade wars, copyrights, protectionist tendencies of media giants, bloody competition, violent fight against file sharing, deafness for user's wishes, putting lawyers ahead of marketing ahead of creatives, lack of basic intelligence, absence of convergence, fear to change a business model that clearly is not working anymore for a time have left a devastated, broken and fragmented situation in the market.</p><p>Many in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>./ know how many things can be relatively simply done at home with today's technology, as much as many know how the lack of convergence of technologies, compatibility and all the stupid crippling or complication of many functionalities because of DRM for example make life just frustrating hard, leaving much to improvised home-made combination of half-working devices sold by computer shops and never the definite solution (a la 'VHS recorder' for example).</p><p>Now we got to get crazy amongst wireless and wired, dvd, blu ray, DRM, DLNA, billions different looking media players, zillions media formats totally incompatible with anything in one day time and never all together supported on all devices, thesuperclosed  HDMI standard for which some jackass, deserving jail, really, asks costly royalties and the list could go on forever.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Salvation looks not in sight... Whatever DVR solution you will find today, it will inevitably be crippled, broken, limited and not working with new formats of tomorrow..... Good luck my friends<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Truth is that ferocious trade wars , copyrights , protectionist tendencies of media giants , bloody competition , violent fight against file sharing , deafness for user 's wishes , putting lawyers ahead of marketing ahead of creatives , lack of basic intelligence , absence of convergence , fear to change a business model that clearly is not working anymore for a time have left a devastated , broken and fragmented situation in the market.Many in ./ know how many things can be relatively simply done at home with today 's technology , as much as many know how the lack of convergence of technologies , compatibility and all the stupid crippling or complication of many functionalities because of DRM for example make life just frustrating hard , leaving much to improvised home-made combination of half-working devices sold by computer shops and never the definite solution ( a la 'VHS recorder ' for example ) .Now we got to get crazy amongst wireless and wired , dvd , blu ray , DRM , DLNA , billions different looking media players , zillions media formats totally incompatible with anything in one day time and never all together supported on all devices , thesuperclosed HDMI standard for which some jackass , deserving jail , really , asks costly royalties and the list could go on forever .
    Salvation looks not in sight... Whatever DVR solution you will find today , it will inevitably be crippled , broken , limited and not working with new formats of tomorrow..... Good luck my friends : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Truth is that ferocious trade wars, copyrights, protectionist tendencies of media giants, bloody competition, violent fight against file sharing, deafness for user's wishes, putting lawyers ahead of marketing ahead of creatives, lack of basic intelligence, absence of convergence, fear to change a business model that clearly is not working anymore for a time have left a devastated, broken and fragmented situation in the market.Many in ./ know how many things can be relatively simply done at home with today's technology, as much as many know how the lack of convergence of technologies, compatibility and all the stupid crippling or complication of many functionalities because of DRM for example make life just frustrating hard, leaving much to improvised home-made combination of half-working devices sold by computer shops and never the definite solution (a la 'VHS recorder' for example).Now we got to get crazy amongst wireless and wired, dvd, blu ray, DRM, DLNA, billions different looking media players, zillions media formats totally incompatible with anything in one day time and never all together supported on all devices, thesuperclosed  HDMI standard for which some jackass, deserving jail, really, asks costly royalties and the list could go on forever.
    Salvation looks not in sight... Whatever DVR solution you will find today, it will inevitably be crippled, broken, limited and not working with new formats of tomorrow..... Good luck my friends :-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304386</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm on the TiVo boat as well.  If you want to serve up media from a PC, throw <a href="http://pytivo.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/PyTivo" title="sourceforge.net">pyTiVo</a> [sourceforge.net] on it, and point it at whatever directory contains your video files.  The format of the video files doesn't even matter -- on the back-end it uses ffmpeg to do the video conversion.
</p><p>I have a refurbished Compaq with a 2.4Ghz Core2Duo I bought last year, and it can convert at about 200fps, easily saturating the TiVo's network capabilities.  Once setup, the system just appears in the Now Playing List.  It has easily passed the wife test in my home over and over again (especially as she has access to the movies directory over the network from the desktop of her Mac -- if she gets something she'd like to put up, she knows to just drag and drop it into the folder, and then start playing it from the NPL on the TiVo).
</p><p>Yaz.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm on the TiVo boat as well .
If you want to serve up media from a PC , throw pyTiVo [ sourceforge.net ] on it , and point it at whatever directory contains your video files .
The format of the video files does n't even matter -- on the back-end it uses ffmpeg to do the video conversion .
I have a refurbished Compaq with a 2.4Ghz Core2Duo I bought last year , and it can convert at about 200fps , easily saturating the TiVo 's network capabilities .
Once setup , the system just appears in the Now Playing List .
It has easily passed the wife test in my home over and over again ( especially as she has access to the movies directory over the network from the desktop of her Mac -- if she gets something she 'd like to put up , she knows to just drag and drop it into the folder , and then start playing it from the NPL on the TiVo ) .
Yaz .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm on the TiVo boat as well.
If you want to serve up media from a PC, throw pyTiVo [sourceforge.net] on it, and point it at whatever directory contains your video files.
The format of the video files doesn't even matter -- on the back-end it uses ffmpeg to do the video conversion.
I have a refurbished Compaq with a 2.4Ghz Core2Duo I bought last year, and it can convert at about 200fps, easily saturating the TiVo's network capabilities.
Once setup, the system just appears in the Now Playing List.
It has easily passed the wife test in my home over and over again (especially as she has access to the movies directory over the network from the desktop of her Mac -- if she gets something she'd like to put up, she knows to just drag and drop it into the folder, and then start playing it from the NPL on the TiVo).
Yaz.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304464</id>
	<title>Playstation 3</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe not the answer you're looking for as I guess you want to keep using the hardware, but if you don't mind dropping the extra cash, the PS3 a brilliant media player.<br>Obviously does the disk based media that you'd expect, supports DLNA, you can stream NetFlix and there's the PSN store if you want to buy/rent stuff.<br>Couldn't be happier with it, personally.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe not the answer you 're looking for as I guess you want to keep using the hardware , but if you do n't mind dropping the extra cash , the PS3 a brilliant media player.Obviously does the disk based media that you 'd expect , supports DLNA , you can stream NetFlix and there 's the PSN store if you want to buy/rent stuff.Could n't be happier with it , personally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe not the answer you're looking for as I guess you want to keep using the hardware, but if you don't mind dropping the extra cash, the PS3 a brilliant media player.Obviously does the disk based media that you'd expect, supports DLNA, you can stream NetFlix and there's the PSN store if you want to buy/rent stuff.Couldn't be happier with it, personally.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30310718</id>
	<title>Pretty Happy with Myth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259858280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Been using Myth for years, happy with it. It takes a while to set up, and due to dependancies typically have to upgrade OS and all when a desired new feature comes out. It typically takes quite a bit of tweaking, but it can stream HD (up to 720) to the Netbook that I use as a front end (up to today when an Acer Dual Core nettop I ordered shows up).</p><p>The transition to digital capture was hard, especially finding the HD stations. Using Fusion HDTV7 and that may be part of the station discovery issue but also tried a Hauppage capture card which was equally difficult.<br>Making the backend sleep and wake up was hard, needed all my own scripts rather than the canned way.<br>When the cable company encrypts the QAM it sends me and I have to add their little cable box, put my analog capture card back in and figure out and program the IR blaster it will be a pain too. I'm hoping somebody comes up with a hack to decrypt the stream, these free cable adapters Comcast sent out supposedly have very limited encryption capabilities, that one's not Myth's fault though. Luckily I mostly watch the HD versions of the broadcast channels and only a few cable things (which I stuck with standard def for).</p><p>Myth is far from install and go - not for the casual user, but typically once I have it running I never have to touch it again unless moving to new HW or a new version, looking for a new feature.</p><p>The database of previously recorded programs is a lock in for me. I investigated other PVR SW but didn't find any that could import a myth database or that had a mechanism where I could extract the programs from the Myth database, massage them to some format, and then import them. Does anybody know of a way to import a myth recorded shows database into another PVR?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Been using Myth for years , happy with it .
It takes a while to set up , and due to dependancies typically have to upgrade OS and all when a desired new feature comes out .
It typically takes quite a bit of tweaking , but it can stream HD ( up to 720 ) to the Netbook that I use as a front end ( up to today when an Acer Dual Core nettop I ordered shows up ) .The transition to digital capture was hard , especially finding the HD stations .
Using Fusion HDTV7 and that may be part of the station discovery issue but also tried a Hauppage capture card which was equally difficult.Making the backend sleep and wake up was hard , needed all my own scripts rather than the canned way.When the cable company encrypts the QAM it sends me and I have to add their little cable box , put my analog capture card back in and figure out and program the IR blaster it will be a pain too .
I 'm hoping somebody comes up with a hack to decrypt the stream , these free cable adapters Comcast sent out supposedly have very limited encryption capabilities , that one 's not Myth 's fault though .
Luckily I mostly watch the HD versions of the broadcast channels and only a few cable things ( which I stuck with standard def for ) .Myth is far from install and go - not for the casual user , but typically once I have it running I never have to touch it again unless moving to new HW or a new version , looking for a new feature.The database of previously recorded programs is a lock in for me .
I investigated other PVR SW but did n't find any that could import a myth database or that had a mechanism where I could extract the programs from the Myth database , massage them to some format , and then import them .
Does anybody know of a way to import a myth recorded shows database into another PVR ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Been using Myth for years, happy with it.
It takes a while to set up, and due to dependancies typically have to upgrade OS and all when a desired new feature comes out.
It typically takes quite a bit of tweaking, but it can stream HD (up to 720) to the Netbook that I use as a front end (up to today when an Acer Dual Core nettop I ordered shows up).The transition to digital capture was hard, especially finding the HD stations.
Using Fusion HDTV7 and that may be part of the station discovery issue but also tried a Hauppage capture card which was equally difficult.Making the backend sleep and wake up was hard, needed all my own scripts rather than the canned way.When the cable company encrypts the QAM it sends me and I have to add their little cable box, put my analog capture card back in and figure out and program the IR blaster it will be a pain too.
I'm hoping somebody comes up with a hack to decrypt the stream, these free cable adapters Comcast sent out supposedly have very limited encryption capabilities, that one's not Myth's fault though.
Luckily I mostly watch the HD versions of the broadcast channels and only a few cable things (which I stuck with standard def for).Myth is far from install and go - not for the casual user, but typically once I have it running I never have to touch it again unless moving to new HW or a new version, looking for a new feature.The database of previously recorded programs is a lock in for me.
I investigated other PVR SW but didn't find any that could import a myth database or that had a mechanism where I could extract the programs from the Myth database, massage them to some format, and then import them.
Does anybody know of a way to import a myth recorded shows database into another PVR?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305850</id>
	<title>GP-PVR</title>
	<author>coldmist</author>
	<datestamp>1259587980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use GP-PVR. It's free. It has a good plugin system with lots of plugins available.  Overall, I'm happy with it. It does take some time to get everything set up, but once there, it just works.</p><p>I only use it to watch TV and recorded shows. I don't watch DVDs through it, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use GP-PVR .
It 's free .
It has a good plugin system with lots of plugins available .
Overall , I 'm happy with it .
It does take some time to get everything set up , but once there , it just works.I only use it to watch TV and recorded shows .
I do n't watch DVDs through it , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use GP-PVR.
It's free.
It has a good plugin system with lots of plugins available.
Overall, I'm happy with it.
It does take some time to get everything set up, but once there, it just works.I only use it to watch TV and recorded shows.
I don't watch DVDs through it, etc.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30309746</id>
	<title>Re:Tivo Warning</title>
	<author>LanMan04</author>
	<datestamp>1259853180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Meh, I just don't care about show transferring.  If I really want to archive a TV show "permanently", I USE the NET to grab an HD copy in mkv format.</p><p>But how often do you want to archive something that was just on live TV?  Usually it's old stuff that I want to see, stuff that wasn't just on TV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh , I just do n't care about show transferring .
If I really want to archive a TV show " permanently " , I USE the NET to grab an HD copy in mkv format.But how often do you want to archive something that was just on live TV ?
Usually it 's old stuff that I want to see , stuff that was n't just on TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh, I just don't care about show transferring.
If I really want to archive a TV show "permanently", I USE the NET to grab an HD copy in mkv format.But how often do you want to archive something that was just on live TV?
Usually it's old stuff that I want to see, stuff that wasn't just on TV.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304700</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307790</id>
	<title>I use PirateBay</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259606340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Its cheap, reliable and fast. No DRM.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its cheap , reliable and fast .
No DRM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its cheap, reliable and fast.
No DRM.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304638</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259582520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mac OSX also works with Netflix</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mac OSX also works with Netflix</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mac OSX also works with Netflix</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304112</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304714</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>Kildjean</author>
	<datestamp>1259582760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>you can't download the app.  You have to order it through netflix... I know because I ordered it too... it's free though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>you ca n't download the app .
You have to order it through netflix... I know because I ordered it too... it 's free though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you can't download the app.
You have to order it through netflix... I know because I ordered it too... it's free though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304580</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306742</id>
	<title>BitTorrent</title>
	<author>chrysrobyn</author>
	<datestamp>1259594820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's interesting to me, the suite of hardware and software it takes to replace the functionality of an RSS feed on Vuse or uTorrent and a properly hacked XBox / AppleTV / PC with a decent remote with a few extra codecs.</p><p>Why doesn't NBC &amp; Co. go out and get a pile of sponsors, embed ads in an avi and then release that torrent?  Of course, it cuts out the local affiliates, but as I recall from reading the US Constitution (which is obsolete, I know), copyrights are there to progress the arts and science.  Profits of local affiliates aren't in there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's interesting to me , the suite of hardware and software it takes to replace the functionality of an RSS feed on Vuse or uTorrent and a properly hacked XBox / AppleTV / PC with a decent remote with a few extra codecs.Why does n't NBC &amp; Co. go out and get a pile of sponsors , embed ads in an avi and then release that torrent ?
Of course , it cuts out the local affiliates , but as I recall from reading the US Constitution ( which is obsolete , I know ) , copyrights are there to progress the arts and science .
Profits of local affiliates are n't in there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's interesting to me, the suite of hardware and software it takes to replace the functionality of an RSS feed on Vuse or uTorrent and a properly hacked XBox / AppleTV / PC with a decent remote with a few extra codecs.Why doesn't NBC &amp; Co. go out and get a pile of sponsors, embed ads in an avi and then release that torrent?
Of course, it cuts out the local affiliates, but as I recall from reading the US Constitution (which is obsolete, I know), copyrights are there to progress the arts and science.
Profits of local affiliates aren't in there.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306470</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, PS3 requires a (free) disc to view the streams. It's not natively on the machine like the Xbox Live implementation.  They'll be a firmware updated in 2010 to resolve it, some people think it's licensing issues with Microsoft that made that date.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , PS3 requires a ( free ) disc to view the streams .
It 's not natively on the machine like the Xbox Live implementation .
They 'll be a firmware updated in 2010 to resolve it , some people think it 's licensing issues with Microsoft that made that date .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, PS3 requires a (free) disc to view the streams.
It's not natively on the machine like the Xbox Live implementation.
They'll be a firmware updated in 2010 to resolve it, some people think it's licensing issues with Microsoft that made that date.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304580</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307828</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259607000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It doesn't make any kind of sense that a business would deploy any solution using Flash.....</p><p>Fixed it for you.</p><p>Flash games in firefox suck the ram up, prime example Rollar coaster kingdom in facebook, that game has the ability to use over 1Gb of ram.</p><p>If Silverlight forces flash to be re-developed to be leaner then that is a good thing. Competition is a good thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't make any kind of sense that a business would deploy any solution using Flash.....Fixed it for you.Flash games in firefox suck the ram up , prime example Rollar coaster kingdom in facebook , that game has the ability to use over 1Gb of ram.If Silverlight forces flash to be re-developed to be leaner then that is a good thing .
Competition is a good thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't make any kind of sense that a business would deploy any solution using Flash.....Fixed it for you.Flash games in firefox suck the ram up, prime example Rollar coaster kingdom in facebook, that game has the ability to use over 1Gb of ram.If Silverlight forces flash to be re-developed to be leaner then that is a good thing.
Competition is a good thing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304112</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304068</id>
	<title>Xbox media center</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259580480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Check this one out: http://xbmc.org/download/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Check this one out : http : //xbmc.org/download/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check this one out: http://xbmc.org/download/</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305782</id>
	<title>Re:Recording HD?</title>
	<author>jtownatpunk.net</author>
	<datestamp>1259587680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1)  Yeah, the cable company DVRs can suck.  Hard.  Or work great.  Depends on what hardware and software they're using.  I about threw a Cox DVR through their window because I was so insulted by their only DVR offering.  Damn thing stuttered if I tried to watch one HD program while recording another.  I never bothered trying to record two HD shows while watching one.  The thing only held about 12 hours of HD content anyway.  Not even enough to get through Sunday Football.  And it would regularly lose its guide data.  Call tech support:  Please unplug the box, wait 30 seconds, then plug it back in.  It should download new program data.  Well, yeah, that worked but what about the 2 or 3 days it was sitting there brain-dead, not recording my shows?</p><p>2)  ClearQAM depends on the cable company.  Last one I had did most of their material that way with maybe a dozen of the less popular channels on SDV.  One thing you can count on is that you'll get the networks in the clear.  They're required to deliver those (ABC/FOX/NBC/CBS/etc.) that way.</p><p>3)  I've only seen one Cable Card setup for a computer and it was part of a dedicated "Media PC" package.  Wasn't the kind of thing you could run down to Fry's and buy.  And you'd probably be locked into using whatever certified DVR software was provided with the kit.  Cable Card devices have to be certified and are usually locked down single-purpose devices like televisions and Tivos.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Yeah , the cable company DVRs can suck .
Hard. Or work great .
Depends on what hardware and software they 're using .
I about threw a Cox DVR through their window because I was so insulted by their only DVR offering .
Damn thing stuttered if I tried to watch one HD program while recording another .
I never bothered trying to record two HD shows while watching one .
The thing only held about 12 hours of HD content anyway .
Not even enough to get through Sunday Football .
And it would regularly lose its guide data .
Call tech support : Please unplug the box , wait 30 seconds , then plug it back in .
It should download new program data .
Well , yeah , that worked but what about the 2 or 3 days it was sitting there brain-dead , not recording my shows ? 2 ) ClearQAM depends on the cable company .
Last one I had did most of their material that way with maybe a dozen of the less popular channels on SDV .
One thing you can count on is that you 'll get the networks in the clear .
They 're required to deliver those ( ABC/FOX/NBC/CBS/etc .
) that way.3 ) I 've only seen one Cable Card setup for a computer and it was part of a dedicated " Media PC " package .
Was n't the kind of thing you could run down to Fry 's and buy .
And you 'd probably be locked into using whatever certified DVR software was provided with the kit .
Cable Card devices have to be certified and are usually locked down single-purpose devices like televisions and Tivos .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1)  Yeah, the cable company DVRs can suck.
Hard.  Or work great.
Depends on what hardware and software they're using.
I about threw a Cox DVR through their window because I was so insulted by their only DVR offering.
Damn thing stuttered if I tried to watch one HD program while recording another.
I never bothered trying to record two HD shows while watching one.
The thing only held about 12 hours of HD content anyway.
Not even enough to get through Sunday Football.
And it would regularly lose its guide data.
Call tech support:  Please unplug the box, wait 30 seconds, then plug it back in.
It should download new program data.
Well, yeah, that worked but what about the 2 or 3 days it was sitting there brain-dead, not recording my shows?2)  ClearQAM depends on the cable company.
Last one I had did most of their material that way with maybe a dozen of the less popular channels on SDV.
One thing you can count on is that you'll get the networks in the clear.
They're required to deliver those (ABC/FOX/NBC/CBS/etc.
) that way.3)  I've only seen one Cable Card setup for a computer and it was part of a dedicated "Media PC" package.
Wasn't the kind of thing you could run down to Fry's and buy.
And you'd probably be locked into using whatever certified DVR software was provided with the kit.
Cable Card devices have to be certified and are usually locked down single-purpose devices like televisions and Tivos.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305276</id>
	<title>Re:Recording HD?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259585160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As far as I know, the only company which is making a pc card with cablecard capability is Ceton Corp.<br>Check this out: http://www.cetoncorp.com/ProductsWMC.php<br>Apparently one card will be able to tune in to six HD channels simultaneously.  From the website:</p><p>The Ceton Multi-Channel Cable TV Card enables Media Center PCs to play or record up to six live channels of HDTV at once and stream live HD channels or recordings to multiple HDTVs throughout the home, all from a single cable connection. With Ceton you finally have a solution to transform your Media Center PC into a complete entertainment platform for all your media - even encrypted cable TV - with terabytes of storage.</p><p>Cablelabs ageed to give them cablecard functionality, giving your pc access to digital cable tv.  It's supposed to be available Q1 of 2010.  I have a feeling the Media Center PC will finally take off with the introduction of this piece of hardware.  It's been a long-time coming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As far as I know , the only company which is making a pc card with cablecard capability is Ceton Corp.Check this out : http : //www.cetoncorp.com/ProductsWMC.phpApparently one card will be able to tune in to six HD channels simultaneously .
From the website : The Ceton Multi-Channel Cable TV Card enables Media Center PCs to play or record up to six live channels of HDTV at once and stream live HD channels or recordings to multiple HDTVs throughout the home , all from a single cable connection .
With Ceton you finally have a solution to transform your Media Center PC into a complete entertainment platform for all your media - even encrypted cable TV - with terabytes of storage.Cablelabs ageed to give them cablecard functionality , giving your pc access to digital cable tv .
It 's supposed to be available Q1 of 2010 .
I have a feeling the Media Center PC will finally take off with the introduction of this piece of hardware .
It 's been a long-time coming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As far as I know, the only company which is making a pc card with cablecard capability is Ceton Corp.Check this out: http://www.cetoncorp.com/ProductsWMC.phpApparently one card will be able to tune in to six HD channels simultaneously.
From the website:The Ceton Multi-Channel Cable TV Card enables Media Center PCs to play or record up to six live channels of HDTV at once and stream live HD channels or recordings to multiple HDTVs throughout the home, all from a single cable connection.
With Ceton you finally have a solution to transform your Media Center PC into a complete entertainment platform for all your media - even encrypted cable TV - with terabytes of storage.Cablelabs ageed to give them cablecard functionality, giving your pc access to digital cable tv.
It's supposed to be available Q1 of 2010.
I have a feeling the Media Center PC will finally take off with the introduction of this piece of hardware.
It's been a long-time coming.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305352</id>
	<title>Re:For viewing? LG BD390</title>
	<author>machinelou</author>
	<datestamp>1259585460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, basically it's a PS3 without the games and support for codecs that were published after 1992? Sweet!</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , basically it 's a PS3 without the games and support for codecs that were published after 1992 ?
Sweet !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, basically it's a PS3 without the games and support for codecs that were published after 1992?
Sweet!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303968</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304872</id>
	<title>Re:Recording HD?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The <a href="http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data\_hdpvr.html" title="hauppauge.com" rel="nofollow">Hauppauge HD-PVR</a> [hauppauge.com] will record HD (1080i, 720p, 480p) via component video. So You can record whatever your cable box puts out. It is supported in <a href="http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge\_HD-PVR" title="mythtv.org" rel="nofollow">MythTv</a> [mythtv.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Hauppauge HD-PVR [ hauppauge.com ] will record HD ( 1080i , 720p , 480p ) via component video .
So You can record whatever your cable box puts out .
It is supported in MythTv [ mythtv.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Hauppauge HD-PVR [hauppauge.com] will record HD (1080i, 720p, 480p) via component video.
So You can record whatever your cable box puts out.
It is supported in MythTv [mythtv.org].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306424</id>
	<title>WHS + MEDIA CENTER + XBOX 360 = Done</title>
	<author>thechemic</author>
	<datestamp>1259592180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>WHS + MEDIA CENTER + XBOX 360 = Done. Time shift TV, HD quality Netflix, Media storage and streaming to any xbox, PS3, laptop, desktop, or windows mobile phone.

It just works. No tinkering.</htmltext>
<tokenext>WHS + MEDIA CENTER + XBOX 360 = Done .
Time shift TV , HD quality Netflix , Media storage and streaming to any xbox , PS3 , laptop , desktop , or windows mobile phone .
It just works .
No tinkering .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WHS + MEDIA CENTER + XBOX 360 = Done.
Time shift TV, HD quality Netflix, Media storage and streaming to any xbox, PS3, laptop, desktop, or windows mobile phone.
It just works.
No tinkering.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305442</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>DarkMagician07</author>
	<datestamp>1259585940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm curious as I have almost the exact same setup (7 Home Premium instead of Pro) and haven't run into this type of issue (yet).  Since they both use the same Media Center, I can bet that this will happen later if it's going to.  I have it checking a library that has approximately 200 videos, though I haven't tried the photo stuff yet.  I don't really have a need to view my pictures on the TV, so I didn't get into it.</p><p>The real reason I like WMC is simply that it's easy.  The interface is actually fairly clear and quick to understand, and that makes it easier for my kids to use it as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm curious as I have almost the exact same setup ( 7 Home Premium instead of Pro ) and have n't run into this type of issue ( yet ) .
Since they both use the same Media Center , I can bet that this will happen later if it 's going to .
I have it checking a library that has approximately 200 videos , though I have n't tried the photo stuff yet .
I do n't really have a need to view my pictures on the TV , so I did n't get into it.The real reason I like WMC is simply that it 's easy .
The interface is actually fairly clear and quick to understand , and that makes it easier for my kids to use it as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm curious as I have almost the exact same setup (7 Home Premium instead of Pro) and haven't run into this type of issue (yet).
Since they both use the same Media Center, I can bet that this will happen later if it's going to.
I have it checking a library that has approximately 200 videos, though I haven't tried the photo stuff yet.
I don't really have a need to view my pictures on the TV, so I didn't get into it.The real reason I like WMC is simply that it's easy.
The interface is actually fairly clear and quick to understand, and that makes it easier for my kids to use it as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304904</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303798</id>
	<title>First post! Torrents my friend</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259579640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whilst maybe not your preferred solution, what better way to "time shift" and "space shift" TV than via Torrents?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whilst maybe not your preferred solution , what better way to " time shift " and " space shift " TV than via Torrents ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whilst maybe not your preferred solution, what better way to "time shift" and "space shift" TV than via Torrents?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303784</id>
	<title>Linux MCE</title>
	<author>Captain Splendid</author>
	<datestamp>1259579640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Only just started fiddling with it, but it looks incredible.  Always find it odd it doesn't get more mention when these topics arise.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Only just started fiddling with it , but it looks incredible .
Always find it odd it does n't get more mention when these topics arise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only just started fiddling with it, but it looks incredible.
Always find it odd it doesn't get more mention when these topics arise.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306448</id>
	<title>Re:Consoles</title>
	<author>frozen\_kangaroo</author>
	<datestamp>1259592420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use an old, practically scrap, Pentium 4 hidden away in the loft running Mythbackend with tuners and big hard drives in it.  It sits there and records programs. It uses a Fedora 9 distro, and dependency hell was dealt with smoothly by running yum.
<p>
Under the main television that we watch is a PS3, which sees the backend as a UPnP media server without any fuss.  All recorded programs show up under the "video" menu.  Any machine in the house can also be used as a frontend, if Mythfrontend is installed.  Mythweb can be used to configure it remotely (even off-site if I'm feeling brave enough to let incoming conections to it from the outside world) so you can log in and set something to record if you are out and about.
</p><p>
I'm really happy with the system and not got any particular moans, other than the fact that tuners don't just work out of the box and forums have to be read<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use an old , practically scrap , Pentium 4 hidden away in the loft running Mythbackend with tuners and big hard drives in it .
It sits there and records programs .
It uses a Fedora 9 distro , and dependency hell was dealt with smoothly by running yum .
Under the main television that we watch is a PS3 , which sees the backend as a UPnP media server without any fuss .
All recorded programs show up under the " video " menu .
Any machine in the house can also be used as a frontend , if Mythfrontend is installed .
Mythweb can be used to configure it remotely ( even off-site if I 'm feeling brave enough to let incoming conections to it from the outside world ) so you can log in and set something to record if you are out and about .
I 'm really happy with the system and not got any particular moans , other than the fact that tuners do n't just work out of the box and forums have to be read .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use an old, practically scrap, Pentium 4 hidden away in the loft running Mythbackend with tuners and big hard drives in it.
It sits there and records programs.
It uses a Fedora 9 distro, and dependency hell was dealt with smoothly by running yum.
Under the main television that we watch is a PS3, which sees the backend as a UPnP media server without any fuss.
All recorded programs show up under the "video" menu.
Any machine in the house can also be used as a frontend, if Mythfrontend is installed.
Mythweb can be used to configure it remotely (even off-site if I'm feeling brave enough to let incoming conections to it from the outside world) so you can log in and set something to record if you are out and about.
I'm really happy with the system and not got any particular moans, other than the fact that tuners don't just work out of the box and forums have to be read ...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303876</id>
	<title>Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>PhrostyMcByte</author>
	<datestamp>1259579820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Out of all the ones I've tried, Media Center ended up being the best fit for me.  Others might have some more features, but Media Center had all the ones I cared about and most of the time implemented them better.  The only problem I've run into is that their TV listings updater causes an ungodly amount of disk I/O and CPU usage for several minutes whenever it runs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Out of all the ones I 've tried , Media Center ended up being the best fit for me .
Others might have some more features , but Media Center had all the ones I cared about and most of the time implemented them better .
The only problem I 've run into is that their TV listings updater causes an ungodly amount of disk I/O and CPU usage for several minutes whenever it runs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Out of all the ones I've tried, Media Center ended up being the best fit for me.
Others might have some more features, but Media Center had all the ones I cared about and most of the time implemented them better.
The only problem I've run into is that their TV listings updater causes an ungodly amount of disk I/O and CPU usage for several minutes whenever it runs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304552</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>Etherized</author>
	<datestamp>1259582280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree completely. If what you want is a solution that simply works, this is clearly the best choice.</p><p>There are a few use cases for the media PC that TiVo can't fill or can't fill very well (transcoding files for use on portable devices, local network streaming, playing media from certain web sites, etc), but you have to ask yourself 1) how much those matter to you and 2) whether another appliance (like the WDTV deals) might do some of it instead.</p><p>I love MythTV, warts and all, but its UI is clunky and its care and feeding can be a hassle. I really can't recommend it to anybody who wants something that just works and just works well. Perhaps the Windows offerings are superior, but I'm personally not interested in running Windows, and I enjoy tinkering, so MythTV works for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree completely .
If what you want is a solution that simply works , this is clearly the best choice.There are a few use cases for the media PC that TiVo ca n't fill or ca n't fill very well ( transcoding files for use on portable devices , local network streaming , playing media from certain web sites , etc ) , but you have to ask yourself 1 ) how much those matter to you and 2 ) whether another appliance ( like the WDTV deals ) might do some of it instead.I love MythTV , warts and all , but its UI is clunky and its care and feeding can be a hassle .
I really ca n't recommend it to anybody who wants something that just works and just works well .
Perhaps the Windows offerings are superior , but I 'm personally not interested in running Windows , and I enjoy tinkering , so MythTV works for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree completely.
If what you want is a solution that simply works, this is clearly the best choice.There are a few use cases for the media PC that TiVo can't fill or can't fill very well (transcoding files for use on portable devices, local network streaming, playing media from certain web sites, etc), but you have to ask yourself 1) how much those matter to you and 2) whether another appliance (like the WDTV deals) might do some of it instead.I love MythTV, warts and all, but its UI is clunky and its care and feeding can be a hassle.
I really can't recommend it to anybody who wants something that just works and just works well.
Perhaps the Windows offerings are superior, but I'm personally not interested in running Windows, and I enjoy tinkering, so MythTV works for me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305566</id>
	<title>Just use Usenet + hellanzb + DVD player</title>
	<author>adosch</author>
	<datestamp>1259586420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've tried my many attempts at a MythTV HTPC setup and it truly is a lot of work and time.  What really got me every time is exactly what the author stated:  the many handful hack attempts to get everything to work right.  I ended up sufficing back to using my useset + newzbin + <a href="http://www.hellanzb.com/" title="hellanzb.com" rel="nofollow">hellanzb</a> [hellanzb.com] + <a href="http://code.google.com/p/hellavcr" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">hellavcr</a> [google.com] setup.  For mainstream TV recording, it's *always* on Usenet somewhere with-in 40 minutes after showing and the whole point of a DVR is to watch your recorded shows after the fact.  Then set up a Samba share (for WIndows) or NFS or use your samba share for your Linux hosts, lock it down and use `mplayer`'s "-cache" parameter and you're golden.  I'm on my laptop much of the time anyway, so sitting in bed watching a show becomes pretty effort-less streaming it over the network or hooking my laptop to my LCD dvd (that has VGA-in port).  If I want to watch DVDs, I either use `mplayer` again over the network or just burn the dang DVD image, because again... Useset is also useful for that and my newzbin indexing report service + <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6230" title="mozilla.org" rel="nofollow">hellafox</a> [mozilla.org] makes it even easier.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've tried my many attempts at a MythTV HTPC setup and it truly is a lot of work and time .
What really got me every time is exactly what the author stated : the many handful hack attempts to get everything to work right .
I ended up sufficing back to using my useset + newzbin + hellanzb [ hellanzb.com ] + hellavcr [ google.com ] setup .
For mainstream TV recording , it 's * always * on Usenet somewhere with-in 40 minutes after showing and the whole point of a DVR is to watch your recorded shows after the fact .
Then set up a Samba share ( for WIndows ) or NFS or use your samba share for your Linux hosts , lock it down and use ` mplayer ` 's " -cache " parameter and you 're golden .
I 'm on my laptop much of the time anyway , so sitting in bed watching a show becomes pretty effort-less streaming it over the network or hooking my laptop to my LCD dvd ( that has VGA-in port ) .
If I want to watch DVDs , I either use ` mplayer ` again over the network or just burn the dang DVD image , because again... Useset is also useful for that and my newzbin indexing report service + hellafox [ mozilla.org ] makes it even easier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've tried my many attempts at a MythTV HTPC setup and it truly is a lot of work and time.
What really got me every time is exactly what the author stated:  the many handful hack attempts to get everything to work right.
I ended up sufficing back to using my useset + newzbin + hellanzb [hellanzb.com] + hellavcr [google.com] setup.
For mainstream TV recording, it's *always* on Usenet somewhere with-in 40 minutes after showing and the whole point of a DVR is to watch your recorded shows after the fact.
Then set up a Samba share (for WIndows) or NFS or use your samba share for your Linux hosts, lock it down and use `mplayer`'s "-cache" parameter and you're golden.
I'm on my laptop much of the time anyway, so sitting in bed watching a show becomes pretty effort-less streaming it over the network or hooking my laptop to my LCD dvd (that has VGA-in port).
If I want to watch DVDs, I either use `mplayer` again over the network or just burn the dang DVD image, because again... Useset is also useful for that and my newzbin indexing report service + hellafox [mozilla.org] makes it even easier.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307414</id>
	<title>Media Center Windows 7</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259601300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I use Sage TV (<a href="http://www.sage.tv/" title="www.sage.tv" rel="nofollow">http://www.sage.tv/</a> [www.sage.tv]) on XP (If you're going to end up going that route anyways). It's been pretty reliable and I like the interface.</p><p>I've also considered moving to Windows 7. I hear the media center functionality built in is pretty robust.</p></div><p>I use Media Center for Windows 7 and I absolutely love it.  I use an extender for another TV and works with no problems.  I have a dual QAM tuner and also dual analog and it handles drivers and also great signal and recording.  I would highly recommend getting Windows 7 for this functionality.  Just remember if you do, that you don't need Ultimate to get this Media Center.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Sage TV ( http : //www.sage.tv/ [ www.sage.tv ] ) on XP ( If you 're going to end up going that route anyways ) .
It 's been pretty reliable and I like the interface.I 've also considered moving to Windows 7 .
I hear the media center functionality built in is pretty robust.I use Media Center for Windows 7 and I absolutely love it .
I use an extender for another TV and works with no problems .
I have a dual QAM tuner and also dual analog and it handles drivers and also great signal and recording .
I would highly recommend getting Windows 7 for this functionality .
Just remember if you do , that you do n't need Ultimate to get this Media Center .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Sage TV (http://www.sage.tv/ [www.sage.tv]) on XP (If you're going to end up going that route anyways).
It's been pretty reliable and I like the interface.I've also considered moving to Windows 7.
I hear the media center functionality built in is pretty robust.I use Media Center for Windows 7 and I absolutely love it.
I use an extender for another TV and works with no problems.
I have a dual QAM tuner and also dual analog and it handles drivers and also great signal and recording.
I would highly recommend getting Windows 7 for this functionality.
Just remember if you do, that you don't need Ultimate to get this Media Center.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303794</id>
	<title>MythTV 0.22 has problems?</title>
	<author>Neil Blender</author>
	<datestamp>1259579640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You should probably wait for 0.3.  Everyone knows sub 0.3 versions are not ready for prime time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You should probably wait for 0.3 .
Everyone knows sub 0.3 versions are not ready for prime time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should probably wait for 0.3.
Everyone knows sub 0.3 versions are not ready for prime time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303780</id>
	<title>Snapstream?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259579580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I was looking at making a media center box a while back I was looking at Snapstream which is Windows based software that seemed to support a lot of the Happague DVR cards and remotes.  Since then I decided I didn't need the actual DVR function as much as just a box to stream SD videos from my PC to my TV so I took my old XBox and softmodded it to XBMC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was looking at making a media center box a while back I was looking at Snapstream which is Windows based software that seemed to support a lot of the Happague DVR cards and remotes .
Since then I decided I did n't need the actual DVR function as much as just a box to stream SD videos from my PC to my TV so I took my old XBox and softmodded it to XBMC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was looking at making a media center box a while back I was looking at Snapstream which is Windows based software that seemed to support a lot of the Happague DVR cards and remotes.
Since then I decided I didn't need the actual DVR function as much as just a box to stream SD videos from my PC to my TV so I took my old XBox and softmodded it to XBMC.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303862</id>
	<title>sageTV</title>
	<author>kaplong!</author>
	<datestamp>1259579820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I like SageTV ( <a href="http://www.sagetv.com/" title="sagetv.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sagetv.com/</a> [sagetv.com] ), especially the one-click commercial skipping; it has (had?) its occasional hiccups, but this might also be a function of how much one fiddles with the hardware/software setup<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)  It seems pretty mature (it's at v6.x by now), has an active user/contributor base, and handles multiple receivers and set top/converter boxes with IR control nicely. It has a free trial.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I like SageTV ( http : //www.sagetv.com/ [ sagetv.com ] ) , especially the one-click commercial skipping ; it has ( had ?
) its occasional hiccups , but this might also be a function of how much one fiddles with the hardware/software setup : - ) It seems pretty mature ( it 's at v6.x by now ) , has an active user/contributor base , and handles multiple receivers and set top/converter boxes with IR control nicely .
It has a free trial .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like SageTV ( http://www.sagetv.com/ [sagetv.com] ), especially the one-click commercial skipping; it has (had?
) its occasional hiccups, but this might also be a function of how much one fiddles with the hardware/software setup :-)  It seems pretty mature (it's at v6.x by now), has an active user/contributor base, and handles multiple receivers and set top/converter boxes with IR control nicely.
It has a free trial.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304178</id>
	<title>MYTV + Xbox - XMBC</title>
	<author>bmsleight</author>
	<datestamp>1259580900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Simple Mytv backend and cheap Xboxes running XBMC. Works really well  - look at it now. Multiple front-end all around the house for &pound;25.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Simple Mytv backend and cheap Xboxes running XBMC .
Works really well - look at it now .
Multiple front-end all around the house for   25 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Simple Mytv backend and cheap Xboxes running XBMC.
Works really well  - look at it now.
Multiple front-end all around the house for £25.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307226</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>Mista2</author>
	<datestamp>1259599380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would agree, but here in NZ Tivo have done a deal with Telecom so you can only get the online content if you use telecoms Xtra service for ADSL broadband. If you use cable through Telstra or some other naked DSL service, sorry, no access.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would agree , but here in NZ Tivo have done a deal with Telecom so you can only get the online content if you use telecoms Xtra service for ADSL broadband .
If you use cable through Telstra or some other naked DSL service , sorry , no access .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would agree, but here in NZ Tivo have done a deal with Telecom so you can only get the online content if you use telecoms Xtra service for ADSL broadband.
If you use cable through Telstra or some other naked DSL service, sorry, no access.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30308602</id>
	<title>I can mention the worst - Power Cinema</title>
	<author>cheekyboy</author>
	<datestamp>1259836260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Power Cinema is the biggest crap ever.<br>Slow, buggy, idiot interface, just barely 2001 quality.</p><p>Cyberlink has made a dodo, cancel it , or make something that outshines Myth.</p><p>Ironically, MediaPortal has many things that are better, but still sucks. Its slower than dhtml javascript interfaces.<br>They should have just written the interface in flash and have it use xml to communicate to the TV Server.</p><p>And they all have poor analogue support (svideo for sattv), either crap interface, or nothing works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Power Cinema is the biggest crap ever.Slow , buggy , idiot interface , just barely 2001 quality.Cyberlink has made a dodo , cancel it , or make something that outshines Myth.Ironically , MediaPortal has many things that are better , but still sucks .
Its slower than dhtml javascript interfaces.They should have just written the interface in flash and have it use xml to communicate to the TV Server.And they all have poor analogue support ( svideo for sattv ) , either crap interface , or nothing works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Power Cinema is the biggest crap ever.Slow, buggy, idiot interface, just barely 2001 quality.Cyberlink has made a dodo, cancel it , or make something that outshines Myth.Ironically, MediaPortal has many things that are better, but still sucks.
Its slower than dhtml javascript interfaces.They should have just written the interface in flash and have it use xml to communicate to the TV Server.And they all have poor analogue support (svideo for sattv), either crap interface, or nothing works.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307858</id>
	<title>Re:Recording HD?</title>
	<author>northernboy</author>
	<datestamp>1259607480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My cable provider is Cox, and they are in the process of moving to some kind of switched digital provisioning system, with the consequence that CableCards don't work any more.  So to get any non-clear content, one now either needs a DVR or cable box.  They evidently have a workaround device for Tivo, but this is not going to help me use my CableCard in my TV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My cable provider is Cox , and they are in the process of moving to some kind of switched digital provisioning system , with the consequence that CableCards do n't work any more .
So to get any non-clear content , one now either needs a DVR or cable box .
They evidently have a workaround device for Tivo , but this is not going to help me use my CableCard in my TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My cable provider is Cox, and they are in the process of moving to some kind of switched digital provisioning system, with the consequence that CableCards don't work any more.
So to get any non-clear content, one now either needs a DVR or cable box.
They evidently have a workaround device for Tivo, but this is not going to help me use my CableCard in my TV.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307982</id>
	<title>My 2 cents</title>
	<author>baughdw</author>
	<datestamp>1259609400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been using Snapstream's BeyondTV for several years.  I've got 3 BTV boxes in my house.  I tried to set up a Myth box one time.  It was too complicated for me.  I absolutely dread when stuff doesn't work and I have to go online and figure out how to make it work.  I've still had to do a little of that with BTV, but overall it's been pretty good.  It does lock up now and then and my relatively recent addition of a Hauppauge HD-PVR box has been an absolute bust (love the rest of my Hauppauge hardware, but the HD-PVR requires daily, sometimes hourly, reboots).  Anytime BTV misses a show I have to hear the wife say, "Why does it always mess up on my shows?"  So it happens, but not so often that the wife insists on a change.  For important stuff, I set up recordings on more than one box.  They're all networked so I can watch any show on any TV.

I also have a HD cable STB PVR that I never use because the UI is awful.  I just control it using the previously mentioned HD-PVR under BTV.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using Snapstream 's BeyondTV for several years .
I 've got 3 BTV boxes in my house .
I tried to set up a Myth box one time .
It was too complicated for me .
I absolutely dread when stuff does n't work and I have to go online and figure out how to make it work .
I 've still had to do a little of that with BTV , but overall it 's been pretty good .
It does lock up now and then and my relatively recent addition of a Hauppauge HD-PVR box has been an absolute bust ( love the rest of my Hauppauge hardware , but the HD-PVR requires daily , sometimes hourly , reboots ) .
Anytime BTV misses a show I have to hear the wife say , " Why does it always mess up on my shows ?
" So it happens , but not so often that the wife insists on a change .
For important stuff , I set up recordings on more than one box .
They 're all networked so I can watch any show on any TV .
I also have a HD cable STB PVR that I never use because the UI is awful .
I just control it using the previously mentioned HD-PVR under BTV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using Snapstream's BeyondTV for several years.
I've got 3 BTV boxes in my house.
I tried to set up a Myth box one time.
It was too complicated for me.
I absolutely dread when stuff doesn't work and I have to go online and figure out how to make it work.
I've still had to do a little of that with BTV, but overall it's been pretty good.
It does lock up now and then and my relatively recent addition of a Hauppauge HD-PVR box has been an absolute bust (love the rest of my Hauppauge hardware, but the HD-PVR requires daily, sometimes hourly, reboots).
Anytime BTV misses a show I have to hear the wife say, "Why does it always mess up on my shows?
"  So it happens, but not so often that the wife insists on a change.
For important stuff, I set up recordings on more than one box.
They're all networked so I can watch any show on any TV.
I also have a HD cable STB PVR that I never use because the UI is awful.
I just control it using the previously mentioned HD-PVR under BTV.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307236</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>datapharmer</author>
	<datestamp>1259599440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>only intel<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-(</htmltext>
<tokenext>only intel : - (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>only intel :-(</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30309258</id>
	<title>Re:For viewing? LG BD390</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259847600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did you try minimyth for your frontends?  Saved me a lot of hassle..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you try minimyth for your frontends ?
Saved me a lot of hassle. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you try minimyth for your frontends?
Saved me a lot of hassle..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30309820</id>
	<title>Question...</title>
	<author>GameboyRMH</author>
	<datestamp>1259853780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It uses a Fedora 9 distro, and dependency hell was dealt with smoothly by running yum.</p></div><p>Do you notice yum having a tendency to break its own repos regularly after updates? I'm having this problem at work and it's really pissing me off, it seems to be pretty common (this is on CentOS 5.2 servers, from a little searching I see the problem is also common with Fedora). I also had a problem where it wasn't parsing a variable in the repo config files. Plus it's inconsistent - repo configs that work on one server don't work on another virtually identical one (cloned from the first). I'm actually thinking of switching some servers to a "server-ized" (X)Ubuntu Desktop install. Apt doesn't give me any trouble at home, AppArmor's awesome and gksudo would make things much easier for the textophobic admins (a major issue). Losing Red Hat binary compatibility would be the only real downside...
<br> <br>
More on-topic, I've been thinking of doing a setup like yours but I haven't been able to free up the hardware - I'm using a P3 box with Samba shares (I use a directory full of symlinks so I can have files on different disks etc. and still have a tidy "media library" - that was a total bitch to get working) and once you access the files with VLC anything plays. Works great for me, but even if I upgraded the server's hardware, added a tuner and used a dedicated HTPC on the TV it wouldn't be a super-elegant system. I've been thinking of using uPnP to stream media since more devices support it (I'm getting an N900 and Samba support isn't a sure thing). Do you have issues with any file formats via uPnP? From the little research I've done it looks like some transcoding is involved. My videos are in all different weird formats - there's a little of everything (even ripped DVDs as directories), and I need subtitle support too.</p></div>
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<tokenext>It uses a Fedora 9 distro , and dependency hell was dealt with smoothly by running yum.Do you notice yum having a tendency to break its own repos regularly after updates ?
I 'm having this problem at work and it 's really pissing me off , it seems to be pretty common ( this is on CentOS 5.2 servers , from a little searching I see the problem is also common with Fedora ) .
I also had a problem where it was n't parsing a variable in the repo config files .
Plus it 's inconsistent - repo configs that work on one server do n't work on another virtually identical one ( cloned from the first ) .
I 'm actually thinking of switching some servers to a " server-ized " ( X ) Ubuntu Desktop install .
Apt does n't give me any trouble at home , AppArmor 's awesome and gksudo would make things much easier for the textophobic admins ( a major issue ) .
Losing Red Hat binary compatibility would be the only real downside.. . More on-topic , I 've been thinking of doing a setup like yours but I have n't been able to free up the hardware - I 'm using a P3 box with Samba shares ( I use a directory full of symlinks so I can have files on different disks etc .
and still have a tidy " media library " - that was a total bitch to get working ) and once you access the files with VLC anything plays .
Works great for me , but even if I upgraded the server 's hardware , added a tuner and used a dedicated HTPC on the TV it would n't be a super-elegant system .
I 've been thinking of using uPnP to stream media since more devices support it ( I 'm getting an N900 and Samba support is n't a sure thing ) .
Do you have issues with any file formats via uPnP ?
From the little research I 've done it looks like some transcoding is involved .
My videos are in all different weird formats - there 's a little of everything ( even ripped DVDs as directories ) , and I need subtitle support too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It uses a Fedora 9 distro, and dependency hell was dealt with smoothly by running yum.Do you notice yum having a tendency to break its own repos regularly after updates?
I'm having this problem at work and it's really pissing me off, it seems to be pretty common (this is on CentOS 5.2 servers, from a little searching I see the problem is also common with Fedora).
I also had a problem where it wasn't parsing a variable in the repo config files.
Plus it's inconsistent - repo configs that work on one server don't work on another virtually identical one (cloned from the first).
I'm actually thinking of switching some servers to a "server-ized" (X)Ubuntu Desktop install.
Apt doesn't give me any trouble at home, AppArmor's awesome and gksudo would make things much easier for the textophobic admins (a major issue).
Losing Red Hat binary compatibility would be the only real downside...
 
More on-topic, I've been thinking of doing a setup like yours but I haven't been able to free up the hardware - I'm using a P3 box with Samba shares (I use a directory full of symlinks so I can have files on different disks etc.
and still have a tidy "media library" - that was a total bitch to get working) and once you access the files with VLC anything plays.
Works great for me, but even if I upgraded the server's hardware, added a tuner and used a dedicated HTPC on the TV it wouldn't be a super-elegant system.
I've been thinking of using uPnP to stream media since more devices support it (I'm getting an N900 and Samba support isn't a sure thing).
Do you have issues with any file formats via uPnP?
From the little research I've done it looks like some transcoding is involved.
My videos are in all different weird formats - there's a little of everything (even ripped DVDs as directories), and I need subtitle support too.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306670</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259594100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep. Tivo wins. I'm in same boat. Bought TivoHD with lifetime. Cheaper in the long run. (My original Tivo is also still in use &gt; 9 years.)</p><p>Netflix, youtube, Amazon on Demand work great.<br>PyTivo on a mac delivers all my other media.<br>(Can be copied to Tivo or streamed.)</p><p>Canceled cable, as OTA HD is better quality.<br>The few series I miss from cable were available from Amazon on Demand at much lower net cost.</p><p>Spent a long time futzing with various MythTV and Media Center solutions than never "just worked."</p><p>Setting a recording remotely using iPhone app is a snap.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep .
Tivo wins .
I 'm in same boat .
Bought TivoHD with lifetime .
Cheaper in the long run .
( My original Tivo is also still in use &gt; 9 years .
) Netflix , youtube , Amazon on Demand work great.PyTivo on a mac delivers all my other media .
( Can be copied to Tivo or streamed .
) Canceled cable , as OTA HD is better quality.The few series I miss from cable were available from Amazon on Demand at much lower net cost.Spent a long time futzing with various MythTV and Media Center solutions than never " just worked .
" Setting a recording remotely using iPhone app is a snap .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep.
Tivo wins.
I'm in same boat.
Bought TivoHD with lifetime.
Cheaper in the long run.
(My original Tivo is also still in use &gt; 9 years.
)Netflix, youtube, Amazon on Demand work great.PyTivo on a mac delivers all my other media.
(Can be copied to Tivo or streamed.
)Canceled cable, as OTA HD is better quality.The few series I miss from cable were available from Amazon on Demand at much lower net cost.Spent a long time futzing with various MythTV and Media Center solutions than never "just worked.
"Setting a recording remotely using iPhone app is a snap.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305476</id>
	<title>Re:Recording HD?</title>
	<author>northernboy</author>
	<datestamp>1259586060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't tell if anyone in a low-modded comment suggested this, but how about the Hauppauge HD-PVR? <a href="http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data\_hdpvr.html" title="hauppauge.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data\_hdpvr.html</a> [hauppauge.com]  Have yet to buy one, mainly because I don't think the machine I'm using is fast enough to keep up, but it looks like it should work until component video connectors go away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't tell if anyone in a low-modded comment suggested this , but how about the Hauppauge HD-PVR ?
http : //www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data \ _hdpvr.html [ hauppauge.com ] Have yet to buy one , mainly because I do n't think the machine I 'm using is fast enough to keep up , but it looks like it should work until component video connectors go away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't tell if anyone in a low-modded comment suggested this, but how about the Hauppauge HD-PVR?
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data\_hdpvr.html [hauppauge.com]  Have yet to buy one, mainly because I don't think the machine I'm using is fast enough to keep up, but it looks like it should work until component video connectors go away.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30311564</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1259861160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Last I looked into it, Netflix has always been using Microsoft CODECs, but it wasn't obviously Silverlight... thus, it's running on things like the PS3, Roku, and some other "Netflix Ready" devices. So, I looked it up... yup, they have moved to using Silverlight. There might actually be a good reason for this.</p><p>Netflix has always used Windows Media formats and, as one might expect, the Windows Media DRM. The original format is using WMV3 and WMA, along with Windows Media DRM-10. They encode from 500 to 2200kb/s, and occasionally up to 3400kb/s for select video material. The resolutions vary up to 720x480, 4:3 or 16:9, progressive, at either 24p (film) or 25p/30p (video). The new "HD" format (HD, in their imagination anyway) is streaming in VC-1 (Windows Media 9) and WMA at between 2.6Mb/s and 3.8Mb/s, 720/24p for films, 720/30p for video-derived sources.... apparently, they started using Silverlight and standard VC-1 for the HD stuff.</p><p>The argument for using Silverlight, rather than just "a mess of Microsoft CODECs and DRMs" is that all of these things are united under Silverlight. I think that translates to mean "Microsoft is doing the work of putting Silverlight on platforms like PS3, X-Box 360, Mac, etc... so we have no extra work to do to support these things. And clearly, since Netflix was already Microsoft based, they would be prone to accepting a "better" solution from Microsoft.</p><p>None of which removes the problem with Netflix: their video quality is crap. Buy or rent the Blu-Ray, don't worry about Netflix streaming video. Even easier, if you're not a fan of advanced Microsoft's heavily walled DRM. I got sick of them long ago, and the the crap they pulled with the DRM. They basically only trust PCs. Long before standardized HD players, I had this little red-laser DVD player from IOData in Japan. It could play MPEG-4 Advanced Simple Profile, DivX 5/6, and Microsoft Windows Media 9 video in HD, up to 1080/30p or 1080/60i (though it did only YPrPb output up to 1080/60i), from normal red laser DVDs or streaming over 100-Base-T. They had actually gone to the trouble of supporting WMA, supporting the Microsoft DRMs, etc.</p><p>Or so you'd think. Microsoft was, at the time, selling high-def DVDs, using a "standard" they hacked together from HTML, Javascript, and Windows Media 9, which they called WMV/HD DVD. You could buy unprotected WMV/HD discs from folks like HD-Net, and this player would auto start, display menus, behave just like you had a DVD, only of course, in actual quasi-decent HD. I figured out how to make my own, even DVD + WMV/HD hybrids for short videos... the player was clever enough to ask which one you'd like to see when it detected such a disc.</p><p>But, even with the MS DRM in there, I couldn't play the DRMed versions on my player. I could authorize the disc on my PC, drop it in my player, no go. I could authorize it, try to play remotely on the IOData from a shared DVD drive on the player, no go. HOWEVER, if I copied the data to hard drive space on the PC, after authorizing it, the IOData player actually could get authorization to play it... though it lost all concept of the WMV/HD authoring... it just played individual WMV files.</p><p>In other words, Microsoft were just being idiots here. That was enough for me... if the thing is using the Microsoft DRM, I'll use their competitor's thing instead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Last I looked into it , Netflix has always been using Microsoft CODECs , but it was n't obviously Silverlight... thus , it 's running on things like the PS3 , Roku , and some other " Netflix Ready " devices .
So , I looked it up... yup , they have moved to using Silverlight .
There might actually be a good reason for this.Netflix has always used Windows Media formats and , as one might expect , the Windows Media DRM .
The original format is using WMV3 and WMA , along with Windows Media DRM-10 .
They encode from 500 to 2200kb/s , and occasionally up to 3400kb/s for select video material .
The resolutions vary up to 720x480 , 4 : 3 or 16 : 9 , progressive , at either 24p ( film ) or 25p/30p ( video ) .
The new " HD " format ( HD , in their imagination anyway ) is streaming in VC-1 ( Windows Media 9 ) and WMA at between 2.6Mb/s and 3.8Mb/s , 720/24p for films , 720/30p for video-derived sources.... apparently , they started using Silverlight and standard VC-1 for the HD stuff.The argument for using Silverlight , rather than just " a mess of Microsoft CODECs and DRMs " is that all of these things are united under Silverlight .
I think that translates to mean " Microsoft is doing the work of putting Silverlight on platforms like PS3 , X-Box 360 , Mac , etc... so we have no extra work to do to support these things .
And clearly , since Netflix was already Microsoft based , they would be prone to accepting a " better " solution from Microsoft.None of which removes the problem with Netflix : their video quality is crap .
Buy or rent the Blu-Ray , do n't worry about Netflix streaming video .
Even easier , if you 're not a fan of advanced Microsoft 's heavily walled DRM .
I got sick of them long ago , and the the crap they pulled with the DRM .
They basically only trust PCs .
Long before standardized HD players , I had this little red-laser DVD player from IOData in Japan .
It could play MPEG-4 Advanced Simple Profile , DivX 5/6 , and Microsoft Windows Media 9 video in HD , up to 1080/30p or 1080/60i ( though it did only YPrPb output up to 1080/60i ) , from normal red laser DVDs or streaming over 100-Base-T. They had actually gone to the trouble of supporting WMA , supporting the Microsoft DRMs , etc.Or so you 'd think .
Microsoft was , at the time , selling high-def DVDs , using a " standard " they hacked together from HTML , Javascript , and Windows Media 9 , which they called WMV/HD DVD .
You could buy unprotected WMV/HD discs from folks like HD-Net , and this player would auto start , display menus , behave just like you had a DVD , only of course , in actual quasi-decent HD .
I figured out how to make my own , even DVD + WMV/HD hybrids for short videos... the player was clever enough to ask which one you 'd like to see when it detected such a disc.But , even with the MS DRM in there , I could n't play the DRMed versions on my player .
I could authorize the disc on my PC , drop it in my player , no go .
I could authorize it , try to play remotely on the IOData from a shared DVD drive on the player , no go .
HOWEVER , if I copied the data to hard drive space on the PC , after authorizing it , the IOData player actually could get authorization to play it... though it lost all concept of the WMV/HD authoring... it just played individual WMV files.In other words , Microsoft were just being idiots here .
That was enough for me... if the thing is using the Microsoft DRM , I 'll use their competitor 's thing instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last I looked into it, Netflix has always been using Microsoft CODECs, but it wasn't obviously Silverlight... thus, it's running on things like the PS3, Roku, and some other "Netflix Ready" devices.
So, I looked it up... yup, they have moved to using Silverlight.
There might actually be a good reason for this.Netflix has always used Windows Media formats and, as one might expect, the Windows Media DRM.
The original format is using WMV3 and WMA, along with Windows Media DRM-10.
They encode from 500 to 2200kb/s, and occasionally up to 3400kb/s for select video material.
The resolutions vary up to 720x480, 4:3 or 16:9, progressive, at either 24p (film) or 25p/30p (video).
The new "HD" format (HD, in their imagination anyway) is streaming in VC-1 (Windows Media 9) and WMA at between 2.6Mb/s and 3.8Mb/s, 720/24p for films, 720/30p for video-derived sources.... apparently, they started using Silverlight and standard VC-1 for the HD stuff.The argument for using Silverlight, rather than just "a mess of Microsoft CODECs and DRMs" is that all of these things are united under Silverlight.
I think that translates to mean "Microsoft is doing the work of putting Silverlight on platforms like PS3, X-Box 360, Mac, etc... so we have no extra work to do to support these things.
And clearly, since Netflix was already Microsoft based, they would be prone to accepting a "better" solution from Microsoft.None of which removes the problem with Netflix: their video quality is crap.
Buy or rent the Blu-Ray, don't worry about Netflix streaming video.
Even easier, if you're not a fan of advanced Microsoft's heavily walled DRM.
I got sick of them long ago, and the the crap they pulled with the DRM.
They basically only trust PCs.
Long before standardized HD players, I had this little red-laser DVD player from IOData in Japan.
It could play MPEG-4 Advanced Simple Profile, DivX 5/6, and Microsoft Windows Media 9 video in HD, up to 1080/30p or 1080/60i (though it did only YPrPb output up to 1080/60i), from normal red laser DVDs or streaming over 100-Base-T. They had actually gone to the trouble of supporting WMA, supporting the Microsoft DRMs, etc.Or so you'd think.
Microsoft was, at the time, selling high-def DVDs, using a "standard" they hacked together from HTML, Javascript, and Windows Media 9, which they called WMV/HD DVD.
You could buy unprotected WMV/HD discs from folks like HD-Net, and this player would auto start, display menus, behave just like you had a DVD, only of course, in actual quasi-decent HD.
I figured out how to make my own, even DVD + WMV/HD hybrids for short videos... the player was clever enough to ask which one you'd like to see when it detected such a disc.But, even with the MS DRM in there, I couldn't play the DRMed versions on my player.
I could authorize the disc on my PC, drop it in my player, no go.
I could authorize it, try to play remotely on the IOData from a shared DVD drive on the player, no go.
HOWEVER, if I copied the data to hard drive space on the PC, after authorizing it, the IOData player actually could get authorization to play it... though it lost all concept of the WMV/HD authoring... it just played individual WMV files.In other words, Microsoft were just being idiots here.
That was enough for me... if the thing is using the Microsoft DRM, I'll use their competitor's thing instead.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305280</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259585220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, I setup MythTV a few years ago and spent many days getting things setup, like IR receiver, tuner, EPG, 5.1 pass through. It was a bit like torture, and my family found it difficult to understand why I was introducing a computer into the TV watching equation.</p><p>I considered using FrontRow for a while, but there was no integrated DTV component at that time (before EyeTV integrated).  I then installed Vista media center, and things were a lot better. There were some gripes with Vista MC however:<br>
&nbsp; - requiring a hack to get the EPG to work in Australia,<br>
&nbsp; - the live TV buffer was pretty short,<br>
&nbsp; - if you started recording after already watching half a show, the recording would only start from when you hit record - not including the buffer.</p><p>I recently installed Windows 7 and find it even more refined.  For instance, the photo library automatically display when no video is playing, it now plays h264 out of the box, you get a little preview image when scanning back/forwards in a video.</p><p>My original concerns with Windows were</p><p>
&nbsp; - no UPnP player service, so no standard control of player over IP network<br>
&nbsp; - proprietary recording format that can't be used by other digital video players on the network.</p><p>but the fact that I don't have to waste my time maintaining MythTV and the family can use it have led be to accept MCE as a good thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , I setup MythTV a few years ago and spent many days getting things setup , like IR receiver , tuner , EPG , 5.1 pass through .
It was a bit like torture , and my family found it difficult to understand why I was introducing a computer into the TV watching equation.I considered using FrontRow for a while , but there was no integrated DTV component at that time ( before EyeTV integrated ) .
I then installed Vista media center , and things were a lot better .
There were some gripes with Vista MC however :   - requiring a hack to get the EPG to work in Australia ,   - the live TV buffer was pretty short ,   - if you started recording after already watching half a show , the recording would only start from when you hit record - not including the buffer.I recently installed Windows 7 and find it even more refined .
For instance , the photo library automatically display when no video is playing , it now plays h264 out of the box , you get a little preview image when scanning back/forwards in a video.My original concerns with Windows were   - no UPnP player service , so no standard control of player over IP network   - proprietary recording format that ca n't be used by other digital video players on the network.but the fact that I do n't have to waste my time maintaining MythTV and the family can use it have led be to accept MCE as a good thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, I setup MythTV a few years ago and spent many days getting things setup, like IR receiver, tuner, EPG, 5.1 pass through.
It was a bit like torture, and my family found it difficult to understand why I was introducing a computer into the TV watching equation.I considered using FrontRow for a while, but there was no integrated DTV component at that time (before EyeTV integrated).
I then installed Vista media center, and things were a lot better.
There were some gripes with Vista MC however:
  - requiring a hack to get the EPG to work in Australia,
  - the live TV buffer was pretty short,
  - if you started recording after already watching half a show, the recording would only start from when you hit record - not including the buffer.I recently installed Windows 7 and find it even more refined.
For instance, the photo library automatically display when no video is playing, it now plays h264 out of the box, you get a little preview image when scanning back/forwards in a video.My original concerns with Windows were
  - no UPnP player service, so no standard control of player over IP network
  - proprietary recording format that can't be used by other digital video players on the network.but the fact that I don't have to waste my time maintaining MythTV and the family can use it have led be to accept MCE as a good thing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30308370</id>
	<title>AT&amp;T U-Verse</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259832540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just recently moved into the Chicago area and I got all set up with tv and Internet through AT&amp;T. They run it all through a massive modem/router thing that you can stage anywhere in your house, then you just run Ethernet cable to where you want your tv and plug into the little uverse tv box. It runs coax, composite/component, and HDMI as well as optical audio. Neat thing is, all outputs are always on!  You just configure what your aspect ratio and max resolution through the easy-to-use menu.  We have one DVR box and two satellite boxes in our apartment and we just run Ethernet cables to each one (using a regular old switch to split off to different rooms). The main DVR box in the living room can do all the pause and rewind live tv stuff but the other two can't. I couldn't care less about pausing tv. The cool thing is, any box can request to record shows (also mobile phones and through the website) and up to 4 SD (or 2 HD) shows can be recorded at once. Any box can watch any recorded content. I can start watching a recorded show in the living room, pause it and turn off the tv/uverse box, go into my room and resume right where I left off. My roommate could go into the living room and start watching the same recorded show from the beginning at the same time if he wanted.</p><p>I have never seen such a well designed, easy to use, feature packed cable system. If you can, check out AT&amp;T's U-Verse!  I don't even run my tv tuner card anymore. I used to use vista ultimate's media center . . . I still do, but just for instant streaming netflix. For my tv viewing, I only use U-Verse now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just recently moved into the Chicago area and I got all set up with tv and Internet through AT&amp;T .
They run it all through a massive modem/router thing that you can stage anywhere in your house , then you just run Ethernet cable to where you want your tv and plug into the little uverse tv box .
It runs coax , composite/component , and HDMI as well as optical audio .
Neat thing is , all outputs are always on !
You just configure what your aspect ratio and max resolution through the easy-to-use menu .
We have one DVR box and two satellite boxes in our apartment and we just run Ethernet cables to each one ( using a regular old switch to split off to different rooms ) .
The main DVR box in the living room can do all the pause and rewind live tv stuff but the other two ca n't .
I could n't care less about pausing tv .
The cool thing is , any box can request to record shows ( also mobile phones and through the website ) and up to 4 SD ( or 2 HD ) shows can be recorded at once .
Any box can watch any recorded content .
I can start watching a recorded show in the living room , pause it and turn off the tv/uverse box , go into my room and resume right where I left off .
My roommate could go into the living room and start watching the same recorded show from the beginning at the same time if he wanted.I have never seen such a well designed , easy to use , feature packed cable system .
If you can , check out AT&amp;T 's U-Verse !
I do n't even run my tv tuner card anymore .
I used to use vista ultimate 's media center .
. .
I still do , but just for instant streaming netflix .
For my tv viewing , I only use U-Verse now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just recently moved into the Chicago area and I got all set up with tv and Internet through AT&amp;T.
They run it all through a massive modem/router thing that you can stage anywhere in your house, then you just run Ethernet cable to where you want your tv and plug into the little uverse tv box.
It runs coax, composite/component, and HDMI as well as optical audio.
Neat thing is, all outputs are always on!
You just configure what your aspect ratio and max resolution through the easy-to-use menu.
We have one DVR box and two satellite boxes in our apartment and we just run Ethernet cables to each one (using a regular old switch to split off to different rooms).
The main DVR box in the living room can do all the pause and rewind live tv stuff but the other two can't.
I couldn't care less about pausing tv.
The cool thing is, any box can request to record shows (also mobile phones and through the website) and up to 4 SD (or 2 HD) shows can be recorded at once.
Any box can watch any recorded content.
I can start watching a recorded show in the living room, pause it and turn off the tv/uverse box, go into my room and resume right where I left off.
My roommate could go into the living room and start watching the same recorded show from the beginning at the same time if he wanted.I have never seen such a well designed, easy to use, feature packed cable system.
If you can, check out AT&amp;T's U-Verse!
I don't even run my tv tuner card anymore.
I used to use vista ultimate's media center .
. .
I still do, but just for instant streaming netflix.
For my tv viewing, I only use U-Verse now.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307672</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259604780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>BeyondTv</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>BeyondTv</tokentext>
<sentencetext>BeyondTv</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304834</id>
	<title>GB-PVR</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>GB-PVR works great.  Runs as a service in windows so it never gets in the way.  Also can be setup as a web server so you can view your TV guide remotely, accessible by your PDA phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>GB-PVR works great .
Runs as a service in windows so it never gets in the way .
Also can be setup as a web server so you can view your TV guide remotely , accessible by your PDA phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GB-PVR works great.
Runs as a service in windows so it never gets in the way.
Also can be setup as a web server so you can view your TV guide remotely, accessible by your PDA phone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307078</id>
	<title>Re:Tivo Warning</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259598060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have two Tivo's... one HD, one a serries 2.  One I have to fight the DRM crap (HD), one I use to record.  I've told Tivo that the HD has false DRM positives, but they don't listen.  (Why can I record on one and not record on the other?)  To bad that Tivo won't fix their DRM bugs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have two Tivo 's... one HD , one a serries 2 .
One I have to fight the DRM crap ( HD ) , one I use to record .
I 've told Tivo that the HD has false DRM positives , but they do n't listen .
( Why can I record on one and not record on the other ?
) To bad that Tivo wo n't fix their DRM bugs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have two Tivo's... one HD, one a serries 2.
One I have to fight the DRM crap (HD), one I use to record.
I've told Tivo that the HD has false DRM positives, but they don't listen.
(Why can I record on one and not record on the other?
)  To bad that Tivo won't fix their DRM bugs.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304700</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305768</id>
	<title>Try GBPVR for Windows</title>
	<author>Slayblaze</author>
	<datestamp>1259587560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>GBPVR is an excellent free Media Center/PVR that has worked wonderfully for me for several years now. I have a PC dedicated strictly to GBPVR and although it does require a bit of setup to get working initially, its nothing a slashdot regular would have any trouble with. Once set up, it runs itself without issue and is very easy to use.

<a href="http://www.gbpvr.com/" title="gbpvr.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gbpvr.com/</a> [gbpvr.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>GBPVR is an excellent free Media Center/PVR that has worked wonderfully for me for several years now .
I have a PC dedicated strictly to GBPVR and although it does require a bit of setup to get working initially , its nothing a slashdot regular would have any trouble with .
Once set up , it runs itself without issue and is very easy to use .
http : //www.gbpvr.com/ [ gbpvr.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GBPVR is an excellent free Media Center/PVR that has worked wonderfully for me for several years now.
I have a PC dedicated strictly to GBPVR and although it does require a bit of setup to get working initially, its nothing a slashdot regular would have any trouble with.
Once set up, it runs itself without issue and is very easy to use.
http://www.gbpvr.com/ [gbpvr.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304082</id>
	<title>GBPVR on XP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259580540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Awesome free PVR software.  Supports lots of hardware tuner cards &amp; remotes.  Streams over LAN &amp; Internet.  Web interface for streaming &amp; managing recordings.  XMLTV listings.  Excellent support forum.  High WAF.  Plugins (Game Emulators, Weather, Movie Listings, etc).  Comskip, Comclean, Transcode, ISO playback, features go on and on.</p><p>Highly recommended by an HTPC enthusiast.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Awesome free PVR software .
Supports lots of hardware tuner cards &amp; remotes .
Streams over LAN &amp; Internet .
Web interface for streaming &amp; managing recordings .
XMLTV listings .
Excellent support forum .
High WAF .
Plugins ( Game Emulators , Weather , Movie Listings , etc ) .
Comskip , Comclean , Transcode , ISO playback , features go on and on.Highly recommended by an HTPC enthusiast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Awesome free PVR software.
Supports lots of hardware tuner cards &amp; remotes.
Streams over LAN &amp; Internet.
Web interface for streaming &amp; managing recordings.
XMLTV listings.
Excellent support forum.
High WAF.
Plugins (Game Emulators, Weather, Movie Listings, etc).
Comskip, Comclean, Transcode, ISO playback, features go on and on.Highly recommended by an HTPC enthusiast.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305290</id>
	<title>Re:Tivo Warning</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259585220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is true for *some* people on *some* cable companies.   It definitely is not true for everyone.  (Check TivoCommunity.com threads for replies from people who routinely do this type of transferring, who post replies to people who post Chicken Little kinds of posts like the one I'm responding to.   I personally don't transfer much, so I don't have personal experience with it.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is true for * some * people on * some * cable companies .
It definitely is not true for everyone .
( Check TivoCommunity.com threads for replies from people who routinely do this type of transferring , who post replies to people who post Chicken Little kinds of posts like the one I 'm responding to .
I personally do n't transfer much , so I do n't have personal experience with it .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is true for *some* people on *some* cable companies.
It definitely is not true for everyone.
(Check TivoCommunity.com threads for replies from people who routinely do this type of transferring, who post replies to people who post Chicken Little kinds of posts like the one I'm responding to.
I personally don't transfer much, so I don't have personal experience with it.
)</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303900</id>
	<title>haven't found one</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259579880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i've looked, tried alot of different dvr software with a high end pc attached to my tv... i have never been that impressed.</p><p>in my opinion i think the directv hddvrs are the best things out there. software that's made for a specific device just always seems to be better</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i 've looked , tried alot of different dvr software with a high end pc attached to my tv... i have never been that impressed.in my opinion i think the directv hddvrs are the best things out there .
software that 's made for a specific device just always seems to be better</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i've looked, tried alot of different dvr software with a high end pc attached to my tv... i have never been that impressed.in my opinion i think the directv hddvrs are the best things out there.
software that's made for a specific device just always seems to be better</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307074</id>
	<title>Re:Recording HD?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259598060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use the firewire stream off of the cable company's set top box, but my cable provider seems to be one of the few that isn't overzealous with the "copy once" flag.</p><p>Hauppauge's HD-PVR (Component -&gt; mp4) also works well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use the firewire stream off of the cable company 's set top box , but my cable provider seems to be one of the few that is n't overzealous with the " copy once " flag.Hauppauge 's HD-PVR ( Component - &gt; mp4 ) also works well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use the firewire stream off of the cable company's set top box, but my cable provider seems to be one of the few that isn't overzealous with the "copy once" flag.Hauppauge's HD-PVR (Component -&gt; mp4) also works well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30310276</id>
	<title>GBPvr</title>
	<author>ElizabethGreene</author>
	<datestamp>1259856360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use GBPvr(free).  It is windows based, and "just works."  For difficulty of setup I would put it at about a 3, compared to MythTv's 11.  Most of the issues I had were RTFM type things, and the forums are good.</p><p>I have two older analog Hauppage 250 cards, so my setup is not HD.  Most of what we watch comes from Hulu or netflix so it isn't a priority.  If I spend the $ on better cards it will be.  I subscribe to a 3rd party service (paid, $20/yr.) for TV listing information.  In the main menu I created shortcuts to NetFlix and Hulu, and I was able to set VLC as the player for DVDs.  Using a plugin, Fceux, and a pair of USB gamepads, it also serves as our gaming machine.</p><p>All of the content and configuration is stored on the filesystem, and by sharing the directories I am able to stream to my laptop across wireless.  For Christmas I've asked for another machine and an LCD to replace the TV/DVD in our bedroom.  I have not tried streaming across the internet a la slingbox and I assume it wouldn't work as-is because of inefficiencies in the windows share protocol.  That said, I can play the recorded files in VLC on another machine, so presumably I could ftp/scp them off if I'm ever bored.</p><p>hth,<br>ellie</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use GBPvr ( free ) .
It is windows based , and " just works .
" For difficulty of setup I would put it at about a 3 , compared to MythTv 's 11 .
Most of the issues I had were RTFM type things , and the forums are good.I have two older analog Hauppage 250 cards , so my setup is not HD .
Most of what we watch comes from Hulu or netflix so it is n't a priority .
If I spend the $ on better cards it will be .
I subscribe to a 3rd party service ( paid , $ 20/yr .
) for TV listing information .
In the main menu I created shortcuts to NetFlix and Hulu , and I was able to set VLC as the player for DVDs .
Using a plugin , Fceux , and a pair of USB gamepads , it also serves as our gaming machine.All of the content and configuration is stored on the filesystem , and by sharing the directories I am able to stream to my laptop across wireless .
For Christmas I 've asked for another machine and an LCD to replace the TV/DVD in our bedroom .
I have not tried streaming across the internet a la slingbox and I assume it would n't work as-is because of inefficiencies in the windows share protocol .
That said , I can play the recorded files in VLC on another machine , so presumably I could ftp/scp them off if I 'm ever bored.hth,ellie</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use GBPvr(free).
It is windows based, and "just works.
"  For difficulty of setup I would put it at about a 3, compared to MythTv's 11.
Most of the issues I had were RTFM type things, and the forums are good.I have two older analog Hauppage 250 cards, so my setup is not HD.
Most of what we watch comes from Hulu or netflix so it isn't a priority.
If I spend the $ on better cards it will be.
I subscribe to a 3rd party service (paid, $20/yr.
) for TV listing information.
In the main menu I created shortcuts to NetFlix and Hulu, and I was able to set VLC as the player for DVDs.
Using a plugin, Fceux, and a pair of USB gamepads, it also serves as our gaming machine.All of the content and configuration is stored on the filesystem, and by sharing the directories I am able to stream to my laptop across wireless.
For Christmas I've asked for another machine and an LCD to replace the TV/DVD in our bedroom.
I have not tried streaming across the internet a la slingbox and I assume it wouldn't work as-is because of inefficiencies in the windows share protocol.
That said, I can play the recorded files in VLC on another machine, so presumably I could ftp/scp them off if I'm ever bored.hth,ellie</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303780</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30308542</id>
	<title>Windows 7 Media Center</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259835480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Windows 7 Media Center has the most refined, polished, feature rich, reliable, and wife-accepatable experience of anything I have ever used - including Tivo.<br>You can use the remote for everything - and it just works.<br>Your Cable Box - Ditch it, and hopefully your cable provider (like mine Cox in Phoenix, AZ) has QAM channels (Works Fantastic!).<br>If not, CableCard Slots are in the pipeline.</p><p>Dear Microsoft, Take your unrealized "Windows Home Server" product, throw in a couple Cable Card slots, a remote, a TV Tuner, and sell it to people as a Tivo without a subscription. Allow all the current WHS features, and also the ability to be a Tivo. Allow adding more TVs with Media Center Extenders (Xbox etc).<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows 7 Media Center has the most refined , polished , feature rich , reliable , and wife-accepatable experience of anything I have ever used - including Tivo.You can use the remote for everything - and it just works.Your Cable Box - Ditch it , and hopefully your cable provider ( like mine Cox in Phoenix , AZ ) has QAM channels ( Works Fantastic !
) .If not , CableCard Slots are in the pipeline.Dear Microsoft , Take your unrealized " Windows Home Server " product , throw in a couple Cable Card slots , a remote , a TV Tuner , and sell it to people as a Tivo without a subscription .
Allow all the current WHS features , and also the ability to be a Tivo .
Allow adding more TVs with Media Center Extenders ( Xbox etc ) .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows 7 Media Center has the most refined, polished, feature rich, reliable, and wife-accepatable experience of anything I have ever used - including Tivo.You can use the remote for everything - and it just works.Your Cable Box - Ditch it, and hopefully your cable provider (like mine Cox in Phoenix, AZ) has QAM channels (Works Fantastic!
).If not, CableCard Slots are in the pipeline.Dear Microsoft, Take your unrealized "Windows Home Server" product, throw in a couple Cable Card slots, a remote, a TV Tuner, and sell it to people as a Tivo without a subscription.
Allow all the current WHS features, and also the ability to be a Tivo.
Allow adding more TVs with Media Center Extenders (Xbox etc).
 </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30312282</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>gravis777</author>
	<datestamp>1259863200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was not a fan of it on Vista, but it is actaully REALLY good on Windows 7 - mainly because it seems to work wtih Professional (Vista did not have Media Center in the Business edition). That said, my ATI HD TV Wonder does not work with anything other than XP. But I am starting to hate the thing anyway and just buy me a Haupeg card that has component and SPIDIF input.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was not a fan of it on Vista , but it is actaully REALLY good on Windows 7 - mainly because it seems to work wtih Professional ( Vista did not have Media Center in the Business edition ) .
That said , my ATI HD TV Wonder does not work with anything other than XP .
But I am starting to hate the thing anyway and just buy me a Haupeg card that has component and SPIDIF input .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was not a fan of it on Vista, but it is actaully REALLY good on Windows 7 - mainly because it seems to work wtih Professional (Vista did not have Media Center in the Business edition).
That said, my ATI HD TV Wonder does not work with anything other than XP.
But I am starting to hate the thing anyway and just buy me a Haupeg card that has component and SPIDIF input.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303860</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307714</id>
	<title>Under the radar for whatever reason.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259605320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Been using SageTV since 2003.  I have high def using sat service, multiple tuners, full house distribution using media extenders, all media formats imaginable and the kind of stability you need when a mother-in-law, 6 year old kid and of course a wife all are avid users (as in, it;s all we use).  My wife would kill me if I got rid of it.  Most pvr software packages are either toys or gimped.  Sage just quietly goes on working while most people that think they know what they're talking about ignore it for whatever reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Been using SageTV since 2003 .
I have high def using sat service , multiple tuners , full house distribution using media extenders , all media formats imaginable and the kind of stability you need when a mother-in-law , 6 year old kid and of course a wife all are avid users ( as in , it ; s all we use ) .
My wife would kill me if I got rid of it .
Most pvr software packages are either toys or gimped .
Sage just quietly goes on working while most people that think they know what they 're talking about ignore it for whatever reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Been using SageTV since 2003.
I have high def using sat service, multiple tuners, full house distribution using media extenders, all media formats imaginable and the kind of stability you need when a mother-in-law, 6 year old kid and of course a wife all are avid users (as in, it;s all we use).
My wife would kill me if I got rid of it.
Most pvr software packages are either toys or gimped.
Sage just quietly goes on working while most people that think they know what they're talking about ignore it for whatever reason.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305606</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>stefanlasiewski</author>
	<datestamp>1259586660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interesting idea.</p><p>Their <a href="http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/LinuxMCE\_Products" title="linuxmce.org">hardware list</a> [linuxmce.org] is a little sad. I was hoping they provided some sort of thin-client which was multimedia capable, and available in the US. Small profile, fanless, with Ethernet/Wifi, capable of Audio &amp; Video and hopefully a remote control.</p><p>I have a  <a href="http://www.hauppauge.com/html/mediamvp\_datasheet.htm" title="hauppauge.com">Hauppauge MediaMVP</a> [hauppauge.com], and It's not very good with either the default software, or with the <a href="http://www.mvpmc.org/" title="mvpmc.org">mvpmc</a> [mvpmc.org] open source client (Development has slowed since the last major release in 2007).</p><p>I could build something as a MythTV frontend, but once you factor in the cost of a low-profile system, IR remote, and no commercial/community support, etc. the commercial products look better &amp; cheaper.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interesting idea.Their hardware list [ linuxmce.org ] is a little sad .
I was hoping they provided some sort of thin-client which was multimedia capable , and available in the US .
Small profile , fanless , with Ethernet/Wifi , capable of Audio &amp; Video and hopefully a remote control.I have a Hauppauge MediaMVP [ hauppauge.com ] , and It 's not very good with either the default software , or with the mvpmc [ mvpmc.org ] open source client ( Development has slowed since the last major release in 2007 ) .I could build something as a MythTV frontend , but once you factor in the cost of a low-profile system , IR remote , and no commercial/community support , etc .
the commercial products look better &amp; cheaper .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interesting idea.Their hardware list [linuxmce.org] is a little sad.
I was hoping they provided some sort of thin-client which was multimedia capable, and available in the US.
Small profile, fanless, with Ethernet/Wifi, capable of Audio &amp; Video and hopefully a remote control.I have a  Hauppauge MediaMVP [hauppauge.com], and It's not very good with either the default software, or with the mvpmc [mvpmc.org] open source client (Development has slowed since the last major release in 2007).I could build something as a MythTV frontend, but once you factor in the cost of a low-profile system, IR remote, and no commercial/community support, etc.
the commercial products look better &amp; cheaper.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304580</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>Orion Blastar</author>
	<datestamp>1259582340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Netflix also works on the PS3 system by Sony. My brother rents Netflix and they let him see movies on his PS3 via an App he downloaded for it.</p><p>Novell Moonlight does work as a Silverlight plug-in for non-Windows operating systems like Linux, etc. Some people want to boycott Novell because they licensed Microsoft technology but when you need C# and Visual BASIC.Net for Linux, *BSD Unix, and Mac OSX they got you covered with Mono, and Moonlight for Silverlight support. I compare Silverlight to Shockwave Flash, just another virtual machine system and they both kind of do the same things.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Netflix also works on the PS3 system by Sony .
My brother rents Netflix and they let him see movies on his PS3 via an App he downloaded for it.Novell Moonlight does work as a Silverlight plug-in for non-Windows operating systems like Linux , etc .
Some people want to boycott Novell because they licensed Microsoft technology but when you need C # and Visual BASIC.Net for Linux , * BSD Unix , and Mac OSX they got you covered with Mono , and Moonlight for Silverlight support .
I compare Silverlight to Shockwave Flash , just another virtual machine system and they both kind of do the same things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Netflix also works on the PS3 system by Sony.
My brother rents Netflix and they let him see movies on his PS3 via an App he downloaded for it.Novell Moonlight does work as a Silverlight plug-in for non-Windows operating systems like Linux, etc.
Some people want to boycott Novell because they licensed Microsoft technology but when you need C# and Visual BASIC.Net for Linux, *BSD Unix, and Mac OSX they got you covered with Mono, and Moonlight for Silverlight support.
I compare Silverlight to Shockwave Flash, just another virtual machine system and they both kind of do the same things.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304318</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305686</id>
	<title>Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>anexkahn</author>
	<datestamp>1259587140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As much as I hate to admit it, I use windows media center on Windows 7.  I use an xbox in each room as extenders.  I run MCE buddy to convert the files to WMV and remove the commercials.  With this setup I record my shows, chop out the commercials and make them available in every room.  I only have to run one windows computer to make it happen.

The xbox supports netflix streaming, but it requires an xbox live subscription, so I only pay for the subscription in one room.  I don't play any games on the xbox, I only use it as an extender.

I tried several different setups before going with the windows solution, but this has been the easiest and prettiest solution I have done.

If you use a homerunhd tuner, your windows media center computer could be a virtual machine....just in case you don't want to dedicate hardware to the task.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As much as I hate to admit it , I use windows media center on Windows 7 .
I use an xbox in each room as extenders .
I run MCE buddy to convert the files to WMV and remove the commercials .
With this setup I record my shows , chop out the commercials and make them available in every room .
I only have to run one windows computer to make it happen .
The xbox supports netflix streaming , but it requires an xbox live subscription , so I only pay for the subscription in one room .
I do n't play any games on the xbox , I only use it as an extender .
I tried several different setups before going with the windows solution , but this has been the easiest and prettiest solution I have done .
If you use a homerunhd tuner , your windows media center computer could be a virtual machine....just in case you do n't want to dedicate hardware to the task .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As much as I hate to admit it, I use windows media center on Windows 7.
I use an xbox in each room as extenders.
I run MCE buddy to convert the files to WMV and remove the commercials.
With this setup I record my shows, chop out the commercials and make them available in every room.
I only have to run one windows computer to make it happen.
The xbox supports netflix streaming, but it requires an xbox live subscription, so I only pay for the subscription in one room.
I don't play any games on the xbox, I only use it as an extender.
I tried several different setups before going with the windows solution, but this has been the easiest and prettiest solution I have done.
If you use a homerunhd tuner, your windows media center computer could be a virtual machine....just in case you don't want to dedicate hardware to the task.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305936</id>
	<title>"Best" may not be an option</title>
	<author>Sloppy</author>
	<datestamp>1259588640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> I'm also increasingly getting pressure from my family to get things like NetFlix streaming working on this machine.</p></div></blockquote><p>You need to have a talk with your family about the costs of getting locked into proprietary stuff <strong>that is designed</strong> to limit interoperability.  You can have Netflix <em>or</em> the best PVR (whatever that may be), but it is highly unlikely you will ever have both on the same machine (barring virtualization).</p><p>Think about it: the best PVR would naturally <em>be able to</em> record a Netflix stream's plaintext. (It doesn't matter if this is useful; my point is that the capability would exist.)  Netflix isn't going to allow that to happen.</p><p>If the kids demand proprietary streaming that respects DRM, then use a second box.  I know people who are very happy with something called "Roku" for this.  I don't understand the appeal but I can't deny their satisfied testimony.</p><p>Same for Blu-Ray.  If you must have it, use a separate box from your PVR.</p><p>I urge you to resist DRM, but even if you embrace it, don't let DRM constraints <em>on non-PVR content</em> end up limiting your PVR choices. And they <em>will</em>, unless you segregate the functionality.</p><p>Once you do that, then it comes down to whether or not you have DRM on your PVR content (e.g. digital cable TV).  If you don't, then MythTV is almost certainly your answer, because like Tron, MythTV fights for the users.  If you <em>do</em> have DRMed TV, and really don't want to give it up (i.e. fire your cable company) then give up on using a PC and just get a Tivo.  The hassles of DRM in a personal computer aren't worth it; you'll never find any decent platforms that are even DRM-compatible, much less decent PVR apps that can run on those platforms.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm also increasingly getting pressure from my family to get things like NetFlix streaming working on this machine.You need to have a talk with your family about the costs of getting locked into proprietary stuff that is designed to limit interoperability .
You can have Netflix or the best PVR ( whatever that may be ) , but it is highly unlikely you will ever have both on the same machine ( barring virtualization ) .Think about it : the best PVR would naturally be able to record a Netflix stream 's plaintext .
( It does n't matter if this is useful ; my point is that the capability would exist .
) Netflix is n't going to allow that to happen.If the kids demand proprietary streaming that respects DRM , then use a second box .
I know people who are very happy with something called " Roku " for this .
I do n't understand the appeal but I ca n't deny their satisfied testimony.Same for Blu-Ray .
If you must have it , use a separate box from your PVR.I urge you to resist DRM , but even if you embrace it , do n't let DRM constraints on non-PVR content end up limiting your PVR choices .
And they will , unless you segregate the functionality.Once you do that , then it comes down to whether or not you have DRM on your PVR content ( e.g .
digital cable TV ) .
If you do n't , then MythTV is almost certainly your answer , because like Tron , MythTV fights for the users .
If you do have DRMed TV , and really do n't want to give it up ( i.e .
fire your cable company ) then give up on using a PC and just get a Tivo .
The hassles of DRM in a personal computer are n't worth it ; you 'll never find any decent platforms that are even DRM-compatible , much less decent PVR apps that can run on those platforms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I'm also increasingly getting pressure from my family to get things like NetFlix streaming working on this machine.You need to have a talk with your family about the costs of getting locked into proprietary stuff that is designed to limit interoperability.
You can have Netflix or the best PVR (whatever that may be), but it is highly unlikely you will ever have both on the same machine (barring virtualization).Think about it: the best PVR would naturally be able to record a Netflix stream's plaintext.
(It doesn't matter if this is useful; my point is that the capability would exist.
)  Netflix isn't going to allow that to happen.If the kids demand proprietary streaming that respects DRM, then use a second box.
I know people who are very happy with something called "Roku" for this.
I don't understand the appeal but I can't deny their satisfied testimony.Same for Blu-Ray.
If you must have it, use a separate box from your PVR.I urge you to resist DRM, but even if you embrace it, don't let DRM constraints on non-PVR content end up limiting your PVR choices.
And they will, unless you segregate the functionality.Once you do that, then it comes down to whether or not you have DRM on your PVR content (e.g.
digital cable TV).
If you don't, then MythTV is almost certainly your answer, because like Tron, MythTV fights for the users.
If you do have DRMed TV, and really don't want to give it up (i.e.
fire your cable company) then give up on using a PC and just get a Tivo.
The hassles of DRM in a personal computer aren't worth it; you'll never find any decent platforms that are even DRM-compatible, much less decent PVR apps that can run on those platforms.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307954</id>
	<title>Re:Recording HD?</title>
	<author>angelbunny</author>
	<datestamp>1259608980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do most cable boxes output at hd component or only sd component?</p><p>Not only that but $250 seems a bit pricy just to get live premium channels to mythtv in HD. There has got to be a better way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do most cable boxes output at hd component or only sd component ? Not only that but $ 250 seems a bit pricy just to get live premium channels to mythtv in HD .
There has got to be a better way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do most cable boxes output at hd component or only sd component?Not only that but $250 seems a bit pricy just to get live premium channels to mythtv in HD.
There has got to be a better way.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304872</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304110</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>jimbogun</author>
	<datestamp>1259580660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm in the Tivo boat on this one. It's just easier. I spent so much time setting up MythTv (I've done it on PCs, laptops, and even an xbox) and maintaining it was always a pain. I finally got fed up enough and bought a Tivo. Since then, I haven't had any complaints, except as he said, resetting listings when you switch providers. I've really enjoyed the Tivo suggestions feature as well. I was tempted to get the lifetime contract, but instead I'm willing to pay ~$100/year for someone to maintain my DVR for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm in the Tivo boat on this one .
It 's just easier .
I spent so much time setting up MythTv ( I 've done it on PCs , laptops , and even an xbox ) and maintaining it was always a pain .
I finally got fed up enough and bought a Tivo .
Since then , I have n't had any complaints , except as he said , resetting listings when you switch providers .
I 've really enjoyed the Tivo suggestions feature as well .
I was tempted to get the lifetime contract , but instead I 'm willing to pay ~ $ 100/year for someone to maintain my DVR for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm in the Tivo boat on this one.
It's just easier.
I spent so much time setting up MythTv (I've done it on PCs, laptops, and even an xbox) and maintaining it was always a pain.
I finally got fed up enough and bought a Tivo.
Since then, I haven't had any complaints, except as he said, resetting listings when you switch providers.
I've really enjoyed the Tivo suggestions feature as well.
I was tempted to get the lifetime contract, but instead I'm willing to pay ~$100/year for someone to maintain my DVR for me.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304192</id>
	<title>XBMC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259580960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lifehacker likes XBMC (http://lifehacker.com/5105649/hive-five-winner-for-best-media-center-application-xbmc).  I use an Apple TV running XBMC and Boxee, which works pretty well, but is kind of slow.  I'm planning on picking up one of these (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103234&amp;nm\_mc=AFC-C8Junction&amp;cm\_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-\_-Desktop+PC-\_-Acer+America-\_-83103234) to replace the apple tv.  Not sure what I'm going to run on it yet.  I hear the Windows 7 media center is pretty nice, actually</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lifehacker likes XBMC ( http : //lifehacker.com/5105649/hive-five-winner-for-best-media-center-application-xbmc ) .
I use an Apple TV running XBMC and Boxee , which works pretty well , but is kind of slow .
I 'm planning on picking up one of these ( http : //www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx ? Item = N82E16883103234&amp;nm \ _mc = AFC-C8Junction&amp;cm \ _mmc = AFC-C8Junction- \ _-Desktop + PC- \ _-Acer + America- \ _-83103234 ) to replace the apple tv .
Not sure what I 'm going to run on it yet .
I hear the Windows 7 media center is pretty nice , actually</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lifehacker likes XBMC (http://lifehacker.com/5105649/hive-five-winner-for-best-media-center-application-xbmc).
I use an Apple TV running XBMC and Boxee, which works pretty well, but is kind of slow.
I'm planning on picking up one of these (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103234&amp;nm\_mc=AFC-C8Junction&amp;cm\_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-\_-Desktop+PC-\_-Acer+America-\_-83103234) to replace the apple tv.
Not sure what I'm going to run on it yet.
I hear the Windows 7 media center is pretty nice, actually</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305696</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>lcreech</author>
	<datestamp>1259587200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then how does Tivo do it? Tivo is Linux based and the Tivo HD has Netflix.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then how does Tivo do it ?
Tivo is Linux based and the Tivo HD has Netflix .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then how does Tivo do it?
Tivo is Linux based and the Tivo HD has Netflix.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305098</id>
	<title>Re:Recording HD?</title>
	<author>alan92rttt</author>
	<datestamp>1259584440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>ATSC looks good but its locals only so thats a limitation.

Clear QAM looks good but its a crap shoot as to what your Cable CO will provide and they don't support it.

I can't speak for all cable Co DVR's but the SA 8300 from WOW has a UI that belings int eh 80's with DOS. While it works it is a step down from the PC SageTV interface I had gotten used to. I will be dumping it after the 1st of the year getting two Hauppague HD-PVR's and 2 Basic HD receivers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>ATSC looks good but its locals only so thats a limitation .
Clear QAM looks good but its a crap shoot as to what your Cable CO will provide and they do n't support it .
I ca n't speak for all cable Co DVR 's but the SA 8300 from WOW has a UI that belings int eh 80 's with DOS .
While it works it is a step down from the PC SageTV interface I had gotten used to .
I will be dumping it after the 1st of the year getting two Hauppague HD-PVR 's and 2 Basic HD receivers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ATSC looks good but its locals only so thats a limitation.
Clear QAM looks good but its a crap shoot as to what your Cable CO will provide and they don't support it.
I can't speak for all cable Co DVR's but the SA 8300 from WOW has a UI that belings int eh 80's with DOS.
While it works it is a step down from the PC SageTV interface I had gotten used to.
I will be dumping it after the 1st of the year getting two Hauppague HD-PVR's and 2 Basic HD receivers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304338</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30308506</id>
	<title>Netflix + HD Tivo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259834940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The HD Tivo along with the associated HME software does it all. There is free software available such as pyTivo, Galleon, streambaby, hme-vlc  etc., Netflix is great on an HD tivo, especially since they now incorporated it into the Tivo search function so when you search for something and Netflix has it all you do is click to play it.  You also have access to Blockbuster, Amazon, Rhapsody and far too many more to list. You can tie in your personal web cams (via Galleon) to see what is going on outside,  heck, even Youtube is fun on a HD Tivo.  Tivo plays many formats so there is no reason to change them , just stream them it. The best part is how easy it  all works  together. There is a reason why many people call any dvr a "Tivo" as  the Tivo  is the one that sets the standard. HD Tivo and Netflix  and a good network connection will give you most everything your family may want to watch. I like the idea of MythTv and may put one together just for the fun of it but for serious viewing pleasure, nothing beats a Tivo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The HD Tivo along with the associated HME software does it all .
There is free software available such as pyTivo , Galleon , streambaby , hme-vlc etc. , Netflix is great on an HD tivo , especially since they now incorporated it into the Tivo search function so when you search for something and Netflix has it all you do is click to play it .
You also have access to Blockbuster , Amazon , Rhapsody and far too many more to list .
You can tie in your personal web cams ( via Galleon ) to see what is going on outside , heck , even Youtube is fun on a HD Tivo .
Tivo plays many formats so there is no reason to change them , just stream them it .
The best part is how easy it all works together .
There is a reason why many people call any dvr a " Tivo " as the Tivo is the one that sets the standard .
HD Tivo and Netflix and a good network connection will give you most everything your family may want to watch .
I like the idea of MythTv and may put one together just for the fun of it but for serious viewing pleasure , nothing beats a Tivo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The HD Tivo along with the associated HME software does it all.
There is free software available such as pyTivo, Galleon, streambaby, hme-vlc  etc., Netflix is great on an HD tivo, especially since they now incorporated it into the Tivo search function so when you search for something and Netflix has it all you do is click to play it.
You also have access to Blockbuster, Amazon, Rhapsody and far too many more to list.
You can tie in your personal web cams (via Galleon) to see what is going on outside,  heck, even Youtube is fun on a HD Tivo.
Tivo plays many formats so there is no reason to change them , just stream them it.
The best part is how easy it  all works  together.
There is a reason why many people call any dvr a "Tivo" as  the Tivo  is the one that sets the standard.
HD Tivo and Netflix  and a good network connection will give you most everything your family may want to watch.
I like the idea of MythTv and may put one together just for the fun of it but for serious viewing pleasure, nothing beats a Tivo.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30308954</id>
	<title>VDR</title>
	<author>mnbjhguyt</author>
	<datestamp>1259842080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>after 3-4 years of mythtv I found <a href="http://www.linuxtv.org/vdrwiki/index.php/Main\_Page" title="linuxtv.org" rel="nofollow">VDR</a> [linuxtv.org], and it's everything myth is supposed to be.<br>
if you're using dvb-s/t/c it's perfect, notice that it springs from the linuxtv project itself.
it's also super fast, channel switching is faster than my set-top box.<br>
and if you need grey-area tools to use your legit subscription services there are plenty of tools available, and most of all you can talk about it freely in the forums, as opposed to the mythtv mailing lists.<br>
for the media player part, I use xbmc</htmltext>
<tokenext>after 3-4 years of mythtv I found VDR [ linuxtv.org ] , and it 's everything myth is supposed to be .
if you 're using dvb-s/t/c it 's perfect , notice that it springs from the linuxtv project itself .
it 's also super fast , channel switching is faster than my set-top box .
and if you need grey-area tools to use your legit subscription services there are plenty of tools available , and most of all you can talk about it freely in the forums , as opposed to the mythtv mailing lists .
for the media player part , I use xbmc</tokentext>
<sentencetext>after 3-4 years of mythtv I found VDR [linuxtv.org], and it's everything myth is supposed to be.
if you're using dvb-s/t/c it's perfect, notice that it springs from the linuxtv project itself.
it's also super fast, channel switching is faster than my set-top box.
and if you need grey-area tools to use your legit subscription services there are plenty of tools available, and most of all you can talk about it freely in the forums, as opposed to the mythtv mailing lists.
for the media player part, I use xbmc</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30307026</id>
	<title>Re:TiVo for the win?</title>
	<author>dialsoft</author>
	<datestamp>1259597580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love Tivo. There is no better.  Super reliable andmeets all my needs, I network all my boxes and can record 4 channels simultaneously all while copying programs from one dvr to another. It also can play things on my pc on the tivo.  Best investment I ever made.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love Tivo .
There is no better .
Super reliable andmeets all my needs , I network all my boxes and can record 4 channels simultaneously all while copying programs from one dvr to another .
It also can play things on my pc on the tivo .
Best investment I ever made .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love Tivo.
There is no better.
Super reliable andmeets all my needs, I network all my boxes and can record 4 channels simultaneously all while copying programs from one dvr to another.
It also can play things on my pc on the tivo.
Best investment I ever made.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30303918</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306504</id>
	<title>Re:MythTV automatic commercial skipping</title>
	<author>mcmoyer</author>
	<datestamp>1259592840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Plus the ability to losslessly transcode the shows to remove the commercials.  Most 1/2 hour shows go from 3.1G to 2.0G.  That adds up if you've got people in your family that love to hoard shows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Plus the ability to losslessly transcode the shows to remove the commercials .
Most 1/2 hour shows go from 3.1G to 2.0G .
That adds up if you 've got people in your family that love to hoard shows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plus the ability to losslessly transcode the shows to remove the commercials.
Most 1/2 hour shows go from 3.1G to 2.0G.
That adds up if you've got people in your family that love to hoard shows.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30305038</id>
	<title>Re:For Linux, MythTV backend and XBMC frontend.</title>
	<author>Raptor851</author>
	<datestamp>1259584140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>MythTV back end, MythTV front end for me, the front end is made a world better by disabling the internal player and using custom player scripts set up through the admin interface.</htmltext>
<tokenext>MythTV back end , MythTV front end for me , the front end is made a world better by disabling the internal player and using custom player scripts set up through the admin interface .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MythTV back end, MythTV front end for me, the front end is made a world better by disabling the internal player and using custom player scripts set up through the admin interface.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304012</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30306162</id>
	<title>Cable box + firewire output</title>
	<author>foom</author>
	<datestamp>1259590080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use:<br>4) Cablebox with Firewire output + firewire port on PC.</p><p>It works really quite well.</p><p>Cable companies are required to offer cable boxes with firewire (usually the HD ones all come with it). However, depending on your cableco, the firewire output may or may not be encrypted. You can only connect it to your PC if it is not encrypted.</p><p>Note that the presence or absence of encryption on the Firewire output is *totally independent* from whether the data is encrypted on the cable line. The cable box decrypts the signal with its cable card, and possibly re-encrypts it for the firewire output, depending on the cableco's settings.</p><p>For me (with RCN Boston), I've found that all the extended-basic channels are sent unencrypted over the firewire output, except, paradoxially, *sometimes* the HD OTA channels. I dunno what's up with that, but my solution was to just not go through the cable box for those channels. I don't subscribe to premiums, so I don't know whether they are encrypted or not. Your mileage may of course vary, depending on provider and possibly even region.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use : 4 ) Cablebox with Firewire output + firewire port on PC.It works really quite well.Cable companies are required to offer cable boxes with firewire ( usually the HD ones all come with it ) .
However , depending on your cableco , the firewire output may or may not be encrypted .
You can only connect it to your PC if it is not encrypted.Note that the presence or absence of encryption on the Firewire output is * totally independent * from whether the data is encrypted on the cable line .
The cable box decrypts the signal with its cable card , and possibly re-encrypts it for the firewire output , depending on the cableco 's settings.For me ( with RCN Boston ) , I 've found that all the extended-basic channels are sent unencrypted over the firewire output , except , paradoxially , * sometimes * the HD OTA channels .
I dunno what 's up with that , but my solution was to just not go through the cable box for those channels .
I do n't subscribe to premiums , so I do n't know whether they are encrypted or not .
Your mileage may of course vary , depending on provider and possibly even region .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use:4) Cablebox with Firewire output + firewire port on PC.It works really quite well.Cable companies are required to offer cable boxes with firewire (usually the HD ones all come with it).
However, depending on your cableco, the firewire output may or may not be encrypted.
You can only connect it to your PC if it is not encrypted.Note that the presence or absence of encryption on the Firewire output is *totally independent* from whether the data is encrypted on the cable line.
The cable box decrypts the signal with its cable card, and possibly re-encrypts it for the firewire output, depending on the cableco's settings.For me (with RCN Boston), I've found that all the extended-basic channels are sent unencrypted over the firewire output, except, paradoxially, *sometimes* the HD OTA channels.
I dunno what's up with that, but my solution was to just not go through the cable box for those channels.
I don't subscribe to premiums, so I don't know whether they are encrypted or not.
Your mileage may of course vary, depending on provider and possibly even region.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304994</id>
	<title>HDHomeRun</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For all unencrypted HD streams, grab an HDHomeRun box by Silicon Dust -- it tunes up to two simultaneous over-the-air ATSC digital channels or cable clear-QAM digital channels at once and spits 'em out over an ethernet port.  There are Windows drivers as well as software for Linux or *BSD to integrate it with your PVR (i.e. Media Center, SageTV, etc. on Windows, MythTV, etc. on *nix).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For all unencrypted HD streams , grab an HDHomeRun box by Silicon Dust -- it tunes up to two simultaneous over-the-air ATSC digital channels or cable clear-QAM digital channels at once and spits 'em out over an ethernet port .
There are Windows drivers as well as software for Linux or * BSD to integrate it with your PVR ( i.e .
Media Center , SageTV , etc .
on Windows , MythTV , etc .
on * nix ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For all unencrypted HD streams, grab an HDHomeRun box by Silicon Dust -- it tunes up to two simultaneous over-the-air ATSC digital channels or cable clear-QAM digital channels at once and spits 'em out over an ethernet port.
There are Windows drivers as well as software for Linux or *BSD to integrate it with your PVR (i.e.
Media Center, SageTV, etc.
on Windows, MythTV, etc.
on *nix).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304338</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304700</id>
	<title>Tivo Warning</title>
	<author>clinko</author>
	<datestamp>1259582700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A HUGE warning about the Tivo:</p><p>Tivo lists show transferring is a big feature but...</p><p>EVERYTHING worth watching on cable is DRM'd.  EVERYTHING.</p><p>It bugs me that they advertise this as a feature.</p><p>Blame Time Warner, Cox, Comcast, whoever you want, but the TIVO does not transfer anything but your fox, nbc, and cbs channels.</p><p>Analogy:<br>- Ford makes a car that can't drive over speed bumps<br>- Ford advertises the car jumping speed bumps<br>- After buying the car, Ford tells you to drive on limited roads or YOU can call your local town hall to fix every speed bump in town.  Ford has no responsibility, and will not assist in any way.</p><p>Only 2 months left on my contract, and I'm done with this scam.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A HUGE warning about the Tivo : Tivo lists show transferring is a big feature but...EVERYTHING worth watching on cable is DRM 'd .
EVERYTHING.It bugs me that they advertise this as a feature.Blame Time Warner , Cox , Comcast , whoever you want , but the TIVO does not transfer anything but your fox , nbc , and cbs channels.Analogy : - Ford makes a car that ca n't drive over speed bumps- Ford advertises the car jumping speed bumps- After buying the car , Ford tells you to drive on limited roads or YOU can call your local town hall to fix every speed bump in town .
Ford has no responsibility , and will not assist in any way.Only 2 months left on my contract , and I 'm done with this scam .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A HUGE warning about the Tivo:Tivo lists show transferring is a big feature but...EVERYTHING worth watching on cable is DRM'd.
EVERYTHING.It bugs me that they advertise this as a feature.Blame Time Warner, Cox, Comcast, whoever you want, but the TIVO does not transfer anything but your fox, nbc, and cbs channels.Analogy:- Ford makes a car that can't drive over speed bumps- Ford advertises the car jumping speed bumps- After buying the car, Ford tells you to drive on limited roads or YOU can call your local town hall to fix every speed bump in town.
Ford has no responsibility, and will not assist in any way.Only 2 months left on my contract, and I'm done with this scam.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304474</id>
	<title>Roku</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259582040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not keep you current MythTV and just add a Roku box?  For $100, it is cheaper than any new computer hardware and it does Netflix and many other services.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not keep you current MythTV and just add a Roku box ?
For $ 100 , it is cheaper than any new computer hardware and it does Netflix and many other services .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not keep you current MythTV and just add a Roku box?
For $100, it is cheaper than any new computer hardware and it does Netflix and many other services.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30309292</id>
	<title>"Since upgrading to new hardware,</title>
	<author>smchris</author>
	<datestamp>1259848080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've had issues with sound dropping out;"</p><p>No problem here with MythDora.  But somewhere in the Debian Squeeze journey I've acquired an audio drop out or conflict that occurs regularly and periodically.  I would suggest you and I have a Debian/Ubuntu problem, not a MythTV problem.<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've had issues with sound dropping out ; " No problem here with MythDora .
But somewhere in the Debian Squeeze journey I 've acquired an audio drop out or conflict that occurs regularly and periodically .
I would suggest you and I have a Debian/Ubuntu problem , not a MythTV problem .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've had issues with sound dropping out;"No problem here with MythDora.
But somewhere in the Debian Squeeze journey I've acquired an audio drop out or conflict that occurs regularly and periodically.
I would suggest you and I have a Debian/Ubuntu problem, not a MythTV problem.
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304816</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, MCE is pretty good as a out-of-the-box DVR. However, it can suck if you regularly download video to watch.   It can neither play much of it (out-of-the-box) nor does it organize it very well.  Be pepared to tweak.</p><p>I also find it to be a bit piggish on resources.   The interface is slower than I'm used to.  It is often useless if accessing shared files over a wireless connection as it spends too much time &amp; bandwidth indexing generating thumbnail previews to playback video properly. (on a 150Mbps (maybe 30-50 actual) N connection) Again, be prepared to tweak.</p><p>I find it to be absolutely horrible if you have a very large (thousands of files) and dynamic collection of multimedia files.  (I'm looking at about 250GB of music and a TB of video)   My stuff is organized well enough in the file system and I'd prefer my media center not index it but just use the existing directory structure.</p><p>MCE is pretty and works OK if you have a small/stable multimedia collection and also use it in the fairly limited way that Microsoft wants/expects you to but I prefer Media Portal. (http://www.team-mediaportal.com/)  It also requires tweaking but  is far, FAR more flexible, and the end result works better for me.</p><p>Finally, MCE on 7 is an improvement over MCE on Vista,  but hey, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , MCE is pretty good as a out-of-the-box DVR .
However , it can suck if you regularly download video to watch .
It can neither play much of it ( out-of-the-box ) nor does it organize it very well .
Be pepared to tweak.I also find it to be a bit piggish on resources .
The interface is slower than I 'm used to .
It is often useless if accessing shared files over a wireless connection as it spends too much time &amp; bandwidth indexing generating thumbnail previews to playback video properly .
( on a 150Mbps ( maybe 30-50 actual ) N connection ) Again , be prepared to tweak.I find it to be absolutely horrible if you have a very large ( thousands of files ) and dynamic collection of multimedia files .
( I 'm looking at about 250GB of music and a TB of video ) My stuff is organized well enough in the file system and I 'd prefer my media center not index it but just use the existing directory structure.MCE is pretty and works OK if you have a small/stable multimedia collection and also use it in the fairly limited way that Microsoft wants/expects you to but I prefer Media Portal .
( http : //www.team-mediaportal.com/ ) It also requires tweaking but is far , FAR more flexible , and the end result works better for me.Finally , MCE on 7 is an improvement over MCE on Vista , but hey , if it ai n't broke , do n't fix it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, MCE is pretty good as a out-of-the-box DVR.
However, it can suck if you regularly download video to watch.
It can neither play much of it (out-of-the-box) nor does it organize it very well.
Be pepared to tweak.I also find it to be a bit piggish on resources.
The interface is slower than I'm used to.
It is often useless if accessing shared files over a wireless connection as it spends too much time &amp; bandwidth indexing generating thumbnail previews to playback video properly.
(on a 150Mbps (maybe 30-50 actual) N connection) Again, be prepared to tweak.I find it to be absolutely horrible if you have a very large (thousands of files) and dynamic collection of multimedia files.
(I'm looking at about 250GB of music and a TB of video)   My stuff is organized well enough in the file system and I'd prefer my media center not index it but just use the existing directory structure.MCE is pretty and works OK if you have a small/stable multimedia collection and also use it in the fairly limited way that Microsoft wants/expects you to but I prefer Media Portal.
(http://www.team-mediaportal.com/)  It also requires tweaking but  is far, FAR more flexible, and the end result works better for me.Finally, MCE on 7 is an improvement over MCE on Vista,  but hey, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304710</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>MrPhilby</author>
	<datestamp>1259582760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Very happy with XP MCE for 3 years now. I didn't like the Vista one due to codec issues. Very robust. Sometimes forgets my "favorite" channels though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Very happy with XP MCE for 3 years now .
I did n't like the Vista one due to codec issues .
Very robust .
Sometimes forgets my " favorite " channels though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very happy with XP MCE for 3 years now.
I didn't like the Vista one due to codec issues.
Very robust.
Sometimes forgets my "favorite" channels though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304336</id>
	<title>Boxee - Not a DVR, but still awesome</title>
	<author>SwordsmanLuke</author>
	<datestamp>1259581440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use <a href="http://www.boxee.tv/homepage/" title="boxee.tv">Boxee</a> [boxee.tv] for playback.  It's been very reliable for me on multiple flavors of Ubuntu.  I realize it doesn't have true DVR capability, but your complaints seemed to be more to do with the playback portion of your experience and, using Boxee, I've had no problems playing back pretty much anything (though, for some reason, I can't get youtube to work).  It also automatically indexes your media file collections (assuming you're following some standard media naming conventions, i.e. Lie.to.me.S01E01.avi) so you can easily view your entire collection and quickly pick out the show (or film, or music) you want to watch.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Boxee [ boxee.tv ] for playback .
It 's been very reliable for me on multiple flavors of Ubuntu .
I realize it does n't have true DVR capability , but your complaints seemed to be more to do with the playback portion of your experience and , using Boxee , I 've had no problems playing back pretty much anything ( though , for some reason , I ca n't get youtube to work ) .
It also automatically indexes your media file collections ( assuming you 're following some standard media naming conventions , i.e .
Lie.to.me.S01E01.avi ) so you can easily view your entire collection and quickly pick out the show ( or film , or music ) you want to watch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Boxee [boxee.tv] for playback.
It's been very reliable for me on multiple flavors of Ubuntu.
I realize it doesn't have true DVR capability, but your complaints seemed to be more to do with the playback portion of your experience and, using Boxee, I've had no problems playing back pretty much anything (though, for some reason, I can't get youtube to work).
It also automatically indexes your media file collections (assuming you're following some standard media naming conventions, i.e.
Lie.to.me.S01E01.avi) so you can easily view your entire collection and quickly pick out the show (or film, or music) you want to watch.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304934</id>
	<title>Re:For Linux, MythTV backend and XBMC frontend.</title>
	<author>7213</author>
	<datestamp>1259583660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd modify your recommendation, if he can get around his sound issues. I'm permanently hopefully &amp; permanently disappointed in XBMC's support for MythTV. I don't think I'll find XBMC to be a viable Myth frontend until that fateful future day when the PVR branch gets merged into the XBMC trunk &amp; a good solid Myth plugin is made available for it. I will say the commercial skip feature in the 9.11 Beta is nice, but streaming is still flaky, no real guide feature to be had &amp; library integration doesn't work. Seems even for the PVR branch the devs prefer different back end software then Myth (tvheadend? or pvr? or something). Don't get me wrong, I'm realy a huge XBMC fanboy, but a good myth frontend it isn't (yet).</p><p>What I'd recommend, and what I use myself, is a mythbuntu box with XBMC &amp; Hulu desktop. I use XBMC for everything that isn't recorded from TV or Hulu streams. I use mythfrontend for what it does well, watch live TV &amp; recorded programs. Generally I manage my recordings from mythweb, as I really don't like the myth interface at all! I have all three of the players configured to use the same LIRC remote, and have an infinite loop shell script cycle through 'em (a hack I know).</p><p>No netflix though, this is a failure of netflix not Linux.</p><p>Works very well for me, ymmv.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd modify your recommendation , if he can get around his sound issues .
I 'm permanently hopefully &amp; permanently disappointed in XBMC 's support for MythTV .
I do n't think I 'll find XBMC to be a viable Myth frontend until that fateful future day when the PVR branch gets merged into the XBMC trunk &amp; a good solid Myth plugin is made available for it .
I will say the commercial skip feature in the 9.11 Beta is nice , but streaming is still flaky , no real guide feature to be had &amp; library integration does n't work .
Seems even for the PVR branch the devs prefer different back end software then Myth ( tvheadend ?
or pvr ?
or something ) .
Do n't get me wrong , I 'm realy a huge XBMC fanboy , but a good myth frontend it is n't ( yet ) .What I 'd recommend , and what I use myself , is a mythbuntu box with XBMC &amp; Hulu desktop .
I use XBMC for everything that is n't recorded from TV or Hulu streams .
I use mythfrontend for what it does well , watch live TV &amp; recorded programs .
Generally I manage my recordings from mythweb , as I really do n't like the myth interface at all !
I have all three of the players configured to use the same LIRC remote , and have an infinite loop shell script cycle through 'em ( a hack I know ) .No netflix though , this is a failure of netflix not Linux.Works very well for me , ymmv .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd modify your recommendation, if he can get around his sound issues.
I'm permanently hopefully &amp; permanently disappointed in XBMC's support for MythTV.
I don't think I'll find XBMC to be a viable Myth frontend until that fateful future day when the PVR branch gets merged into the XBMC trunk &amp; a good solid Myth plugin is made available for it.
I will say the commercial skip feature in the 9.11 Beta is nice, but streaming is still flaky, no real guide feature to be had &amp; library integration doesn't work.
Seems even for the PVR branch the devs prefer different back end software then Myth (tvheadend?
or pvr?
or something).
Don't get me wrong, I'm realy a huge XBMC fanboy, but a good myth frontend it isn't (yet).What I'd recommend, and what I use myself, is a mythbuntu box with XBMC &amp; Hulu desktop.
I use XBMC for everything that isn't recorded from TV or Hulu streams.
I use mythfrontend for what it does well, watch live TV &amp; recorded programs.
Generally I manage my recordings from mythweb, as I really don't like the myth interface at all!
I have all three of the players configured to use the same LIRC remote, and have an infinite loop shell script cycle through 'em (a hack I know).No netflix though, this is a failure of netflix not Linux.Works very well for me, ymmv.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304418</id>
	<title>Read a fucking book.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Slacker.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Slacker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slacker.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30308182</id>
	<title>Re:Linux MCE</title>
	<author>lozarythmic</author>
	<datestamp>1259871960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem with LinuxMCE is that is promises much, yet delivers little. I built a system on supposedly 'reference' hardware, yet even after a few weeks of hacking away at it, was still unable to reproduce most of the features they listed on their site. I agree it does look amazing, but from a vanilla install you'll have a while to go before you're happy with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem with LinuxMCE is that is promises much , yet delivers little .
I built a system on supposedly 'reference ' hardware , yet even after a few weeks of hacking away at it , was still unable to reproduce most of the features they listed on their site .
I agree it does look amazing , but from a vanilla install you 'll have a while to go before you 're happy with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem with LinuxMCE is that is promises much, yet delivers little.
I built a system on supposedly 'reference' hardware, yet even after a few weeks of hacking away at it, was still unable to reproduce most of the features they listed on their site.
I agree it does look amazing, but from a vanilla install you'll have a while to go before you're happy with it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30318972</id>
	<title>Re:Windows Media Center</title>
	<author>Ahnteis</author>
	<datestamp>1259846040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you have file indexing turned off?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you have file indexing turned off ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you have file indexing turned off?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_02_2147230.30304322</id>
	<title>Sound dropping out and elusive PVRs</title>
	<author>pongo000</author>
	<datestamp>1259581380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Since upgrading to new hardware, I've had issues with sound dropping out; these problems only occur for Myth, not for anything else.</i></p><p>Hallelujah!  From the lack of responses to my post about this issue on the Mythbuntu forums, I thought I might be the only one experiencing this problem.  No one has stepped forward to either acknowledge this problem or offer a fix, which is very frustrating:  I've been using MythTV for several years, and was only recently forced to reinstall everything after my HD died.  I've resisted the siren call of TiVO up to this point, and Windows is out of the question.</p><p>I've seem some PVRs at Fry's that claim to record to a HD.  Are these not a viable option?  They seem to come and go: Fry's had a Phillips PVR just a couple of months ago, but now I see it's no longer even listed in their online catalog.  Is there some reason why HD-based PVRs appear to be so elusive?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since upgrading to new hardware , I 've had issues with sound dropping out ; these problems only occur for Myth , not for anything else.Hallelujah !
From the lack of responses to my post about this issue on the Mythbuntu forums , I thought I might be the only one experiencing this problem .
No one has stepped forward to either acknowledge this problem or offer a fix , which is very frustrating : I 've been using MythTV for several years , and was only recently forced to reinstall everything after my HD died .
I 've resisted the siren call of TiVO up to this point , and Windows is out of the question.I 've seem some PVRs at Fry 's that claim to record to a HD .
Are these not a viable option ?
They seem to come and go : Fry 's had a Phillips PVR just a couple of months ago , but now I see it 's no longer even listed in their online catalog .
Is there some reason why HD-based PVRs appear to be so elusive ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since upgrading to new hardware, I've had issues with sound dropping out; these problems only occur for Myth, not for anything else.Hallelujah!
From the lack of responses to my post about this issue on the Mythbuntu forums, I thought I might be the only one experiencing this problem.
No one has stepped forward to either acknowledge this problem or offer a fix, which is very frustrating:  I've been using MythTV for several years, and was only recently forced to reinstall everything after my HD died.
I've resisted the siren call of TiVO up to this point, and Windows is out of the question.I've seem some PVRs at Fry's that claim to record to a HD.
Are these not a viable option?
They seem to come and go: Fry's had a Phillips PVR just a couple of months ago, but now I see it's no longer even listed in their online catalog.
Is there some reason why HD-based PVRs appear to be so elusive?</sentencetext>
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