<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_01_2226215</id>
	<title>Windows 7 Share Grows At XP's Expense</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1259665500000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>CWmike writes <i>"Microsoft's Windows ran to stay in place last month as Window 7's market share gains made up for the largest-ever declines in Windows XP and Vista, data released today by Web metrics firm Net Applications showed. By these numbers, <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9141606/Windows\_7\_steals\_biggest\_chunk\_of\_share\_from\_XP">Windows 7's gains were primarily at the expense of Windows XP</a>. For each copy of Vista replaced by Windows 7 during November, more than six copies of XP were swapped out. Meanwhile, Apple's Mac OS X lost share during November... betcha Ballmer is having an extra giddy time with that news. Linux came up a winner last month, returning to the 1\% share mark for the first time since July. Linux's all-time high in Net Applications' rankings was May 2009, when it nearly reached 1.2\%."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>CWmike writes " Microsoft 's Windows ran to stay in place last month as Window 7 's market share gains made up for the largest-ever declines in Windows XP and Vista , data released today by Web metrics firm Net Applications showed .
By these numbers , Windows 7 's gains were primarily at the expense of Windows XP .
For each copy of Vista replaced by Windows 7 during November , more than six copies of XP were swapped out .
Meanwhile , Apple 's Mac OS X lost share during November... betcha Ballmer is having an extra giddy time with that news .
Linux came up a winner last month , returning to the 1 \ % share mark for the first time since July .
Linux 's all-time high in Net Applications ' rankings was May 2009 , when it nearly reached 1.2 \ % .
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<sentencetext>CWmike writes "Microsoft's Windows ran to stay in place last month as Window 7's market share gains made up for the largest-ever declines in Windows XP and Vista, data released today by Web metrics firm Net Applications showed.
By these numbers, Windows 7's gains were primarily at the expense of Windows XP.
For each copy of Vista replaced by Windows 7 during November, more than six copies of XP were swapped out.
Meanwhile, Apple's Mac OS X lost share during November... betcha Ballmer is having an extra giddy time with that news.
Linux came up a winner last month, returning to the 1\% share mark for the first time since July.
Linux's all-time high in Net Applications' rankings was May 2009, when it nearly reached 1.2\%.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30293902</id>
	<title>You people are liars</title>
	<author>symbolset</author>
	<datestamp>1259692080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All you people are liars.  Nobody uses Linux.  Nobody!  Just read our statistics.  There are no real Linux users here.  All those other people on all those other sites bashing windows are fictional too!  The Free Software Consortium has hired a hundred thousand unemployed Haitian bloggers to type away at these comments sixteen hours a day under the cruelest conditions for pennies a day.  They live in cages and actually use Windows 7 and IE 8 and have to pretend to hate all that is right and good.  It's inhuman and must be stopped.
</p><p>What's worse is the FSC funds their immoral astroturfing with the funds from their hacker network, exploiting and pwning our precious Windows machines from their secret hideouts in Eastern Europe and China.  It's true!  They pore over every orifice of every application desperately seeking to penetrate the purity of Windows and Office in a vile attempt to convert the world to the cruel tyrrany of their "freedoms" and "choice".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All you people are liars .
Nobody uses Linux .
Nobody ! Just read our statistics .
There are no real Linux users here .
All those other people on all those other sites bashing windows are fictional too !
The Free Software Consortium has hired a hundred thousand unemployed Haitian bloggers to type away at these comments sixteen hours a day under the cruelest conditions for pennies a day .
They live in cages and actually use Windows 7 and IE 8 and have to pretend to hate all that is right and good .
It 's inhuman and must be stopped .
What 's worse is the FSC funds their immoral astroturfing with the funds from their hacker network , exploiting and pwning our precious Windows machines from their secret hideouts in Eastern Europe and China .
It 's true !
They pore over every orifice of every application desperately seeking to penetrate the purity of Windows and Office in a vile attempt to convert the world to the cruel tyrrany of their " freedoms " and " choice " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All you people are liars.
Nobody uses Linux.
Nobody!  Just read our statistics.
There are no real Linux users here.
All those other people on all those other sites bashing windows are fictional too!
The Free Software Consortium has hired a hundred thousand unemployed Haitian bloggers to type away at these comments sixteen hours a day under the cruelest conditions for pennies a day.
They live in cages and actually use Windows 7 and IE 8 and have to pretend to hate all that is right and good.
It's inhuman and must be stopped.
What's worse is the FSC funds their immoral astroturfing with the funds from their hacker network, exploiting and pwning our precious Windows machines from their secret hideouts in Eastern Europe and China.
It's true!
They pore over every orifice of every application desperately seeking to penetrate the purity of Windows and Office in a vile attempt to convert the world to the cruel tyrrany of their "freedoms" and "choice".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291038</id>
	<title>Re:Good news for Linux</title>
	<author>BlackSnake112</author>
	<datestamp>1259671620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know of 25 people who bought windows 7 to replace vista or XP. I still have bruises from the XP people. They were a bit annoyed that I had to back up and reinstall their apps. They thought it would upgrade them to 7. For some reason the vista people where happy to hear the word format. They even wanted to format the hard drive more then once to make sure vista was gone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know of 25 people who bought windows 7 to replace vista or XP .
I still have bruises from the XP people .
They were a bit annoyed that I had to back up and reinstall their apps .
They thought it would upgrade them to 7 .
For some reason the vista people where happy to hear the word format .
They even wanted to format the hard drive more then once to make sure vista was gone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know of 25 people who bought windows 7 to replace vista or XP.
I still have bruises from the XP people.
They were a bit annoyed that I had to back up and reinstall their apps.
They thought it would upgrade them to 7.
For some reason the vista people where happy to hear the word format.
They even wanted to format the hard drive more then once to make sure vista was gone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290532</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290538</id>
	<title>Well..</title>
	<author>El Lobo</author>
	<datestamp>1259669400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can only speak for the university I work for. We have upgraded 8000 machines from XP to 7 after passing over Vista all these years. And boy are we glad we did. <p>Yes, 7 is ***cheap*** for education.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can only speak for the university I work for .
We have upgraded 8000 machines from XP to 7 after passing over Vista all these years .
And boy are we glad we did .
Yes , 7 is * * * cheap * * * for education .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can only speak for the university I work for.
We have upgraded 8000 machines from XP to 7 after passing over Vista all these years.
And boy are we glad we did.
Yes, 7 is ***cheap*** for education.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291678</id>
	<title>Linux is more succesful than the iPhone</title>
	<author>CAPSLOCK2000</author>
	<datestamp>1259675040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to these numbers there are three times more Linux users than iPhone users. The iPhone is generally considered a huge success. Why is Linux percieved so differently?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to these numbers there are three times more Linux users than iPhone users .
The iPhone is generally considered a huge success .
Why is Linux percieved so differently ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to these numbers there are three times more Linux users than iPhone users.
The iPhone is generally considered a huge success.
Why is Linux percieved so differently?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291206</id>
	<title>Have you seen a Linux desktop in the wild?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259672460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have not. Sure, in server rooms I've seen some Gnome desktops lit, mostly so the sysadmins could surf. But in the wild? Not once, in 10 years of looking. The closest I saw was a BSD laptop brought in by a job applicant for an IT position.</p><p>My brother and I both use Linux desktops, he more faithfully than me -- I have a multiple boot between Windows 7 and Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala), but I tend to boot into Windows and putty ssh to administer Linux server boxen and use a vmware guest of centos for my php scripting work. He's very hard core -- all Linux, mostly Fedora, no multiple boot and no vmware. He's seen some Linux desktops, but only at meetup.com meetings and local LUG meetings.</p><p>I'm in Canada, in case that is significant, and I gather there is more Linux in Europe than here (Linux Format is expensive but awesome). But 2\%? Or even 1\%? I don't think so. I walk by a university's glass wall a few times I week, but the only thing I've noticed there is that 50\% of the students use mac books.</p><p>So I ask you: have you ever seen a Linux desktop in the wild? LUG meetings do not count. Here's my definition of what counts: coffee shops, restaurants, airports, trains, lobbies, office cubicles, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have not .
Sure , in server rooms I 've seen some Gnome desktops lit , mostly so the sysadmins could surf .
But in the wild ?
Not once , in 10 years of looking .
The closest I saw was a BSD laptop brought in by a job applicant for an IT position.My brother and I both use Linux desktops , he more faithfully than me -- I have a multiple boot between Windows 7 and Ubuntu 9.10 ( Karmic Koala ) , but I tend to boot into Windows and putty ssh to administer Linux server boxen and use a vmware guest of centos for my php scripting work .
He 's very hard core -- all Linux , mostly Fedora , no multiple boot and no vmware .
He 's seen some Linux desktops , but only at meetup.com meetings and local LUG meetings.I 'm in Canada , in case that is significant , and I gather there is more Linux in Europe than here ( Linux Format is expensive but awesome ) .
But 2 \ % ?
Or even 1 \ % ?
I do n't think so .
I walk by a university 's glass wall a few times I week , but the only thing I 've noticed there is that 50 \ % of the students use mac books.So I ask you : have you ever seen a Linux desktop in the wild ?
LUG meetings do not count .
Here 's my definition of what counts : coffee shops , restaurants , airports , trains , lobbies , office cubicles , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have not.
Sure, in server rooms I've seen some Gnome desktops lit, mostly so the sysadmins could surf.
But in the wild?
Not once, in 10 years of looking.
The closest I saw was a BSD laptop brought in by a job applicant for an IT position.My brother and I both use Linux desktops, he more faithfully than me -- I have a multiple boot between Windows 7 and Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala), but I tend to boot into Windows and putty ssh to administer Linux server boxen and use a vmware guest of centos for my php scripting work.
He's very hard core -- all Linux, mostly Fedora, no multiple boot and no vmware.
He's seen some Linux desktops, but only at meetup.com meetings and local LUG meetings.I'm in Canada, in case that is significant, and I gather there is more Linux in Europe than here (Linux Format is expensive but awesome).
But 2\%?
Or even 1\%?
I don't think so.
I walk by a university's glass wall a few times I week, but the only thing I've noticed there is that 50\% of the students use mac books.So I ask you: have you ever seen a Linux desktop in the wild?
LUG meetings do not count.
Here's my definition of what counts: coffee shops, restaurants, airports, trains, lobbies, office cubicles, etc.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291090</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259671860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The same thing that everyone who moved from XP to 7 gained.</p><p>Windows 7 is nicer to use in almost every respect. The new taskbar (which is the best use of desktop compositing I've seen), the improved Alt-Tab window and the searchable start menu are the things that jump to mind most readily.</p><p>If we're talking about real, demonstrable gains, the move from 2000 -&gt; XP was far more questionable.</p><p>I will happily admit that I can only comment on this from the user's perspective, I don't know what changes were made between Windows Server 2000 -&gt; 2003 -&gt; 2008.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The same thing that everyone who moved from XP to 7 gained.Windows 7 is nicer to use in almost every respect .
The new taskbar ( which is the best use of desktop compositing I 've seen ) , the improved Alt-Tab window and the searchable start menu are the things that jump to mind most readily.If we 're talking about real , demonstrable gains , the move from 2000 - &gt; XP was far more questionable.I will happily admit that I can only comment on this from the user 's perspective , I do n't know what changes were made between Windows Server 2000 - &gt; 2003 - &gt; 2008 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The same thing that everyone who moved from XP to 7 gained.Windows 7 is nicer to use in almost every respect.
The new taskbar (which is the best use of desktop compositing I've seen), the improved Alt-Tab window and the searchable start menu are the things that jump to mind most readily.If we're talking about real, demonstrable gains, the move from 2000 -&gt; XP was far more questionable.I will happily admit that I can only comment on this from the user's perspective, I don't know what changes were made between Windows Server 2000 -&gt; 2003 -&gt; 2008.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290902</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290522</id>
	<title>Linux 20\% market share</title>
	<author>ArsonSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1259669340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linux has more than 20\% of the non-MS market share!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux has more than 20 \ % of the non-MS market share ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux has more than 20\% of the non-MS market share!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290902</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259670960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh dear I bit.</p><p>&gt; 8,000 students * {student turnover period} shown just one OS.  Will they see anything of Open Source apart from Moodle?</p><p>Now that's an education for you.</p><p>Incidentally, there are many Open Source OSs that have a cost of next to nothing but a value way beyond ***cheap***</p><p>Why do you think 7 is ***cheap***?  It's not altruism, it's good business sense for MS to practically give away software for education.</p><p>As a matter of interest, can you tell me what you have really gained from moving from XP to Win 7 apart from a bit of a spring clean out (real demonstrable gains not just a prettier interface and a few more GP widgets to click on, oh and IPv6) ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh dear I bit. &gt; 8,000 students * { student turnover period } shown just one OS .
Will they see anything of Open Source apart from Moodle ? Now that 's an education for you.Incidentally , there are many Open Source OSs that have a cost of next to nothing but a value way beyond * * * cheap * * * Why do you think 7 is * * * cheap * * * ?
It 's not altruism , it 's good business sense for MS to practically give away software for education.As a matter of interest , can you tell me what you have really gained from moving from XP to Win 7 apart from a bit of a spring clean out ( real demonstrable gains not just a prettier interface and a few more GP widgets to click on , oh and IPv6 ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh dear I bit.&gt; 8,000 students * {student turnover period} shown just one OS.
Will they see anything of Open Source apart from Moodle?Now that's an education for you.Incidentally, there are many Open Source OSs that have a cost of next to nothing but a value way beyond ***cheap***Why do you think 7 is ***cheap***?
It's not altruism, it's good business sense for MS to practically give away software for education.As a matter of interest, can you tell me what you have really gained from moving from XP to Win 7 apart from a bit of a spring clean out (real demonstrable gains not just a prettier interface and a few more GP widgets to click on, oh and IPv6) ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291626</id>
	<title>Re:Linux 20\% market share</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259674800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Linux, therefore has 13.37\% of the "non-MS market".</p></div><p>Well <i>of course</i> it does.</p><p>BONUS: CAPTCHA is "penguin"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux , therefore has 13.37 \ % of the " non-MS market " .Well of course it does.BONUS : CAPTCHA is " penguin "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux, therefore has 13.37\% of the "non-MS market".Well of course it does.BONUS: CAPTCHA is "penguin"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290660</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291190</id>
	<title>Re:Nokia has manufactured 1 billion symbian-device</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259672400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The statistic has nothing to do with units manufactured.  It tracks only web browsing habits of connected devices within their sample group.</p><p>Assuming you're correct about one billion Symbian devices sold, how many of them are still in use and not in a landfill, recycling center, or the back of someone's closet?  How many of them are connected to data networks?  How many of those are actually used to browse the "real" Internet?  How many of those do so frequently enough to register on the trackers?  It's just a small fraction of that one billion.</p><p>Second, Symbian's reported share is 0.19\%, not 1.36\%, so that would in fact be 487 billion copies of Windows, except that this data doesn't reflect market share by units sold or units in use, but just based on web presence.</p><p>The numbers are suspect, even as "web presence" figures, for a long list of reasons, but that's not one of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The statistic has nothing to do with units manufactured .
It tracks only web browsing habits of connected devices within their sample group.Assuming you 're correct about one billion Symbian devices sold , how many of them are still in use and not in a landfill , recycling center , or the back of someone 's closet ?
How many of them are connected to data networks ?
How many of those are actually used to browse the " real " Internet ?
How many of those do so frequently enough to register on the trackers ?
It 's just a small fraction of that one billion.Second , Symbian 's reported share is 0.19 \ % , not 1.36 \ % , so that would in fact be 487 billion copies of Windows , except that this data does n't reflect market share by units sold or units in use , but just based on web presence.The numbers are suspect , even as " web presence " figures , for a long list of reasons , but that 's not one of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The statistic has nothing to do with units manufactured.
It tracks only web browsing habits of connected devices within their sample group.Assuming you're correct about one billion Symbian devices sold, how many of them are still in use and not in a landfill, recycling center, or the back of someone's closet?
How many of them are connected to data networks?
How many of those are actually used to browse the "real" Internet?
How many of those do so frequently enough to register on the trackers?
It's just a small fraction of that one billion.Second, Symbian's reported share is 0.19\%, not 1.36\%, so that would in fact be 487 billion copies of Windows, except that this data doesn't reflect market share by units sold or units in use, but just based on web presence.The numbers are suspect, even as "web presence" figures, for a long list of reasons, but that's not one of them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290970</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291716</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 got me twice...</title>
	<author>JDeane</author>
	<datestamp>1259675220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is a shame that the old tricks do not work now since they switched to umm wait it still might work for you....</p><p>If your new notebook has a SLIC 2.0 BIOS you could just download the ISO file and burn it then install that with out having to buy it 2 times.</p><p>If you have time you could return the purchased copy or install with the purchased DVD and save your key for a different computer<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>I think if you buy a DVD retail copy it comes with a key for installing it, but when it comes on something like a Dell or Compaq they use a key stored in the BIOS so when you install windows it never asks for the key.</p><p>Anyway enjoy Windows 7 contrary to what some people will tell you its not a bad OS and is quite a good tool.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is a shame that the old tricks do not work now since they switched to umm wait it still might work for you....If your new notebook has a SLIC 2.0 BIOS you could just download the ISO file and burn it then install that with out having to buy it 2 times.If you have time you could return the purchased copy or install with the purchased DVD and save your key for a different computer : ) I think if you buy a DVD retail copy it comes with a key for installing it , but when it comes on something like a Dell or Compaq they use a key stored in the BIOS so when you install windows it never asks for the key.Anyway enjoy Windows 7 contrary to what some people will tell you its not a bad OS and is quite a good tool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is a shame that the old tricks do not work now since they switched to umm wait it still might work for you....If your new notebook has a SLIC 2.0 BIOS you could just download the ISO file and burn it then install that with out having to buy it 2 times.If you have time you could return the purchased copy or install with the purchased DVD and save your key for a different computer :)I think if you buy a DVD retail copy it comes with a key for installing it, but when it comes on something like a Dell or Compaq they use a key stored in the BIOS so when you install windows it never asks for the key.Anyway enjoy Windows 7 contrary to what some people will tell you its not a bad OS and is quite a good tool.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292144</id>
	<title>Re:Have you seen a Linux desktop in the wild?</title>
	<author>Logic Worshipper</author>
	<datestamp>1259677800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I got my most resent job, our entire IT department ran Ubuntu Linux.</p><p>I also see it a lot in my favorite cafe.  Maybe 20\% adoption there.  The best story I have about Linux there is the time I said to a guy "hey, nice netbook..." and he answered "I programed my own linux disro, want to see..."  We talked for a few hours, I can't verify he programed his own distro, but I can verify he was running Linux.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I got my most resent job , our entire IT department ran Ubuntu Linux.I also see it a lot in my favorite cafe .
Maybe 20 \ % adoption there .
The best story I have about Linux there is the time I said to a guy " hey , nice netbook... " and he answered " I programed my own linux disro , want to see... " We talked for a few hours , I ca n't verify he programed his own distro , but I can verify he was running Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I got my most resent job, our entire IT department ran Ubuntu Linux.I also see it a lot in my favorite cafe.
Maybe 20\% adoption there.
The best story I have about Linux there is the time I said to a guy "hey, nice netbook..." and he answered "I programed my own linux disro, want to see..."  We talked for a few hours, I can't verify he programed his own distro, but I can verify he was running Linux.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30295020</id>
	<title>Re:To be expected?</title>
	<author>donaldm</author>
	<datestamp>1259575560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You have a point about Linux users but the Mac users, especially the switchers are a fickle bunch who would happily go back to Windows if it meant their MSN Messenger would work the same as it used to.</p></div><p>Well I use MSN Messenger and I don't run a Microsoft OS on my corporate machine but Fedora 11. What I use is "Pidgin" with the Messenger plug-in. In addition I use Kmail and Open Office and these work quite well with everyone who has locked themselves into MS Windows, in fact they can't tell the difference when I communicate with them. I do run MS Windows XP under virtualisation but only because there are some things that the company locked themselves into that I need to use however most of what I use is MS Windows free. For home use I don't run MS Windows at all.<br>
<br>
Personally I only recommend dual booting for the first month and then make a decision to move to Linux with MS Windows being virtualised for those jobs that are MS Windows specific (ie. games) although you should have at the very least 3 to 4 GB of memory for this (dual or quad core CPU's are also an advantage) or just give up and just stick with MS Windows.</p></div>
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<tokenext>You have a point about Linux users but the Mac users , especially the switchers are a fickle bunch who would happily go back to Windows if it meant their MSN Messenger would work the same as it used to.Well I use MSN Messenger and I do n't run a Microsoft OS on my corporate machine but Fedora 11 .
What I use is " Pidgin " with the Messenger plug-in .
In addition I use Kmail and Open Office and these work quite well with everyone who has locked themselves into MS Windows , in fact they ca n't tell the difference when I communicate with them .
I do run MS Windows XP under virtualisation but only because there are some things that the company locked themselves into that I need to use however most of what I use is MS Windows free .
For home use I do n't run MS Windows at all .
Personally I only recommend dual booting for the first month and then make a decision to move to Linux with MS Windows being virtualised for those jobs that are MS Windows specific ( ie .
games ) although you should have at the very least 3 to 4 GB of memory for this ( dual or quad core CPU 's are also an advantage ) or just give up and just stick with MS Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have a point about Linux users but the Mac users, especially the switchers are a fickle bunch who would happily go back to Windows if it meant their MSN Messenger would work the same as it used to.Well I use MSN Messenger and I don't run a Microsoft OS on my corporate machine but Fedora 11.
What I use is "Pidgin" with the Messenger plug-in.
In addition I use Kmail and Open Office and these work quite well with everyone who has locked themselves into MS Windows, in fact they can't tell the difference when I communicate with them.
I do run MS Windows XP under virtualisation but only because there are some things that the company locked themselves into that I need to use however most of what I use is MS Windows free.
For home use I don't run MS Windows at all.
Personally I only recommend dual booting for the first month and then make a decision to move to Linux with MS Windows being virtualised for those jobs that are MS Windows specific (ie.
games) although you should have at the very least 3 to 4 GB of memory for this (dual or quad core CPU's are also an advantage) or just give up and just stick with MS Windows.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30295928</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>dhavleak</author>
	<datestamp>1259587140000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As a matter of interest, can you tell me what you have really gained from moving from XP to Win 7 apart from a bit of a spring clean out (real demonstrable gains not just a prettier interface and a few more GP widgets to click on, oh and IPv6) ?</p></div><p>Could you clarify the question? What constitutes a real demonstrable gain in your opinion?</p></div>
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<tokenext>As a matter of interest , can you tell me what you have really gained from moving from XP to Win 7 apart from a bit of a spring clean out ( real demonstrable gains not just a prettier interface and a few more GP widgets to click on , oh and IPv6 ) ? Could you clarify the question ?
What constitutes a real demonstrable gain in your opinion ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a matter of interest, can you tell me what you have really gained from moving from XP to Win 7 apart from a bit of a spring clean out (real demonstrable gains not just a prettier interface and a few more GP widgets to click on, oh and IPv6) ?Could you clarify the question?
What constitutes a real demonstrable gain in your opinion?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291784</id>
	<title>Re:Linux 20\% market share</title>
	<author>midkay</author>
	<datestamp>1259675520000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How?</p><p>The NetApp data:
Windows:  92.52\%
Mac OS X: 5.12\%
Linux (all flavors): 1.00\%
Other (including iPhone, Symbian, Java ME): 1.36\%</p><p>That's 7.48\% "non-MS share" on these numbers (and really only non-Windows--it's not apparent whether they count Windows Mobile as "Windows" or as "Other").  Linux, therefore has 13.37\% of the "non-MS market".  For comparison of the other ones broken out entirely, Apple has 73.26\% of that market (Mac+iPhone).  Java ME has 6.1\%.  Symbian has 2.5\%</p></div></div>
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<tokenext>How ? The NetApp data : Windows : 92.52 \ % Mac OS X : 5.12 \ % Linux ( all flavors ) : 1.00 \ % Other ( including iPhone , Symbian , Java ME ) : 1.36 \ % That 's 7.48 \ % " non-MS share " on these numbers ( and really only non-Windows--it 's not apparent whether they count Windows Mobile as " Windows " or as " Other " ) .
Linux , therefore has 13.37 \ % of the " non-MS market " .
For comparison of the other ones broken out entirely , Apple has 73.26 \ % of that market ( Mac + iPhone ) .
Java ME has 6.1 \ % .
Symbian has 2.5 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How?The NetApp data:
Windows:  92.52\%
Mac OS X: 5.12\%
Linux (all flavors): 1.00\%
Other (including iPhone, Symbian, Java ME): 1.36\%That's 7.48\% "non-MS share" on these numbers (and really only non-Windows--it's not apparent whether they count Windows Mobile as "Windows" or as "Other").
Linux, therefore has 13.37\% of the "non-MS market".
For comparison of the other ones broken out entirely, Apple has 73.26\% of that market (Mac+iPhone).
Java ME has 6.1\%.
Symbian has 2.5\%
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30294216</id>
	<title>ALWAYS Bogus stats</title>
	<author>YankDownUnder</author>
	<datestamp>1259695440000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>...dang...was gonna post that meself till I saw it already posted...neva mind...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>...dang...was gon na post that meself till I saw it already posted...neva mind... : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...dang...was gonna post that meself till I saw it already posted...neva mind... :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30294100</id>
	<title>Re:Linux is more succesful than the iPhone</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259694120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People paid money for their iPhones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People paid money for their iPhones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People paid money for their iPhones.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292086</id>
	<title>I don't want to be "that guy"...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259677440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But this isn't good news for Linux, but rather bad news for Microsoft.</p><p>They successfully made an ad campaign to trick users into feeling that early adoption would be a safe bet, yet in all my interactions (about 8 different Windows 7 run computers) the upgrade from XP or Vista was a major step back in stability and driver compatibility; not to mention all of the Vista users either saw no important difference if not a decline in usability and features.</p><p>So why I say this is bad news for Microsoft is that they effectively made an ad campaign that disguises a broken Vista as a super XP and conned people out of a lot of money, meaning once the wave of popular publicity dies out (stops being funded by MS)- 7 should have an even worse reputation than Vista ever did. Because really, this has nothing to do with a good OS and everything to do with early adopters always getting screwed on everything they adopt early.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and now that Vista has had some work done it's actually better than XP or 7 in my eyes and the eyes of all my fellow nerds who are not on the "dis Vista band wagon" just because it started off like crap.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But this is n't good news for Linux , but rather bad news for Microsoft.They successfully made an ad campaign to trick users into feeling that early adoption would be a safe bet , yet in all my interactions ( about 8 different Windows 7 run computers ) the upgrade from XP or Vista was a major step back in stability and driver compatibility ; not to mention all of the Vista users either saw no important difference if not a decline in usability and features.So why I say this is bad news for Microsoft is that they effectively made an ad campaign that disguises a broken Vista as a super XP and conned people out of a lot of money , meaning once the wave of popular publicity dies out ( stops being funded by MS ) - 7 should have an even worse reputation than Vista ever did .
Because really , this has nothing to do with a good OS and everything to do with early adopters always getting screwed on everything they adopt early .
... and now that Vista has had some work done it 's actually better than XP or 7 in my eyes and the eyes of all my fellow nerds who are not on the " dis Vista band wagon " just because it started off like crap .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But this isn't good news for Linux, but rather bad news for Microsoft.They successfully made an ad campaign to trick users into feeling that early adoption would be a safe bet, yet in all my interactions (about 8 different Windows 7 run computers) the upgrade from XP or Vista was a major step back in stability and driver compatibility; not to mention all of the Vista users either saw no important difference if not a decline in usability and features.So why I say this is bad news for Microsoft is that they effectively made an ad campaign that disguises a broken Vista as a super XP and conned people out of a lot of money, meaning once the wave of popular publicity dies out (stops being funded by MS)- 7 should have an even worse reputation than Vista ever did.
Because really, this has nothing to do with a good OS and everything to do with early adopters always getting screwed on everything they adopt early.
... and now that Vista has had some work done it's actually better than XP or 7 in my eyes and the eyes of all my fellow nerds who are not on the "dis Vista band wagon" just because it started off like crap.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292000</id>
	<title>Re:To be expected?</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1259676900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Windows Users use Windows, and Windows 7 will only grow from the market share of other Windows operating systems. It'll be a long while before Mac and Linux users go back to Windows</p></div></blockquote><p>

You have a point about Linux users but the Mac users, especially the switchers are a fickle bunch who would happily go back to Windows if it meant their MSN Messenger would work the same as it used to. Mac's gained a small amount of market share over vista's crappiness but this has all been fixed(TM) in Windows 7 at least according to MS marketing. Mac's will always have their fanboys but this is probably under 50\% of the current Mac market.<br> <br>

Many of the switchers I know were just as unhappy with their Macs as they were with their Vista boxes, everything was different and nothing worked as well as it used to despite being told that it was "better", so many are jumping at the chance to go back to 7 after being promised that it was all fixed(TM). By all reports average people are happy with 7, personally I think it's Vista Service Release 2 or what Vista should have been released as in the first place. I've also found a lot of people are turned off by the zealotry of the Mac community and have seen how people with Mac problems are treated and Mac's do have issues, especially for the average user. Even I've been mulling over the cost to upgrade my cheap Laptop to from Vista Home Basic Win7 but never got around to it, besides it runs Ubuntu just fine.<br> <br>

This brings up a good point, what about us dual booters. Like many Linux users I'm counted twice as I dual boot most machines I own. I keep XP around for games mostly and the occasional bit of testing with Windows. From my banks perspective I'm 80\% Linux and 20\% Android but for sites like./ and other forums I do a bit of browsing from the Windows side.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Windows Users use Windows , and Windows 7 will only grow from the market share of other Windows operating systems .
It 'll be a long while before Mac and Linux users go back to Windows You have a point about Linux users but the Mac users , especially the switchers are a fickle bunch who would happily go back to Windows if it meant their MSN Messenger would work the same as it used to .
Mac 's gained a small amount of market share over vista 's crappiness but this has all been fixed ( TM ) in Windows 7 at least according to MS marketing .
Mac 's will always have their fanboys but this is probably under 50 \ % of the current Mac market .
Many of the switchers I know were just as unhappy with their Macs as they were with their Vista boxes , everything was different and nothing worked as well as it used to despite being told that it was " better " , so many are jumping at the chance to go back to 7 after being promised that it was all fixed ( TM ) .
By all reports average people are happy with 7 , personally I think it 's Vista Service Release 2 or what Vista should have been released as in the first place .
I 've also found a lot of people are turned off by the zealotry of the Mac community and have seen how people with Mac problems are treated and Mac 's do have issues , especially for the average user .
Even I 've been mulling over the cost to upgrade my cheap Laptop to from Vista Home Basic Win7 but never got around to it , besides it runs Ubuntu just fine .
This brings up a good point , what about us dual booters .
Like many Linux users I 'm counted twice as I dual boot most machines I own .
I keep XP around for games mostly and the occasional bit of testing with Windows .
From my banks perspective I 'm 80 \ % Linux and 20 \ % Android but for sites like./ and other forums I do a bit of browsing from the Windows side .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows Users use Windows, and Windows 7 will only grow from the market share of other Windows operating systems.
It'll be a long while before Mac and Linux users go back to Windows

You have a point about Linux users but the Mac users, especially the switchers are a fickle bunch who would happily go back to Windows if it meant their MSN Messenger would work the same as it used to.
Mac's gained a small amount of market share over vista's crappiness but this has all been fixed(TM) in Windows 7 at least according to MS marketing.
Mac's will always have their fanboys but this is probably under 50\% of the current Mac market.
Many of the switchers I know were just as unhappy with their Macs as they were with their Vista boxes, everything was different and nothing worked as well as it used to despite being told that it was "better", so many are jumping at the chance to go back to 7 after being promised that it was all fixed(TM).
By all reports average people are happy with 7, personally I think it's Vista Service Release 2 or what Vista should have been released as in the first place.
I've also found a lot of people are turned off by the zealotry of the Mac community and have seen how people with Mac problems are treated and Mac's do have issues, especially for the average user.
Even I've been mulling over the cost to upgrade my cheap Laptop to from Vista Home Basic Win7 but never got around to it, besides it runs Ubuntu just fine.
This brings up a good point, what about us dual booters.
Like many Linux users I'm counted twice as I dual boot most machines I own.
I keep XP around for games mostly and the occasional bit of testing with Windows.
From my banks perspective I'm 80\% Linux and 20\% Android but for sites like./ and other forums I do a bit of browsing from the Windows side.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30296610</id>
	<title>Re:Have you seen a Linux desktop in the wild?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>UK<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.gov organisation here.  In our admittedly small team, we have a couple of SuSE machines on which we do web publishing (itself hosted on a Fedora server).</p><p>Admittedly, most of the rest of the organisation is windows-only, but on our discrete network we have a bit of autonomy to use open-source apps.  I've given FileZilla, PuTTY and FoxIT reader a look-in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>UK .gov organisation here .
In our admittedly small team , we have a couple of SuSE machines on which we do web publishing ( itself hosted on a Fedora server ) .Admittedly , most of the rest of the organisation is windows-only , but on our discrete network we have a bit of autonomy to use open-source apps .
I 've given FileZilla , PuTTY and FoxIT reader a look-in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>UK .gov organisation here.
In our admittedly small team, we have a couple of SuSE machines on which we do web publishing (itself hosted on a Fedora server).Admittedly, most of the rest of the organisation is windows-only, but on our discrete network we have a bit of autonomy to use open-source apps.
I've given FileZilla, PuTTY and FoxIT reader a look-in.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30299274</id>
	<title>Re:Good news for Linux</title>
	<author>VTBlue</author>
	<datestamp>1259605620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is actually not true.  Windows 7 beat Harry Potter for highest pre-sale item in Amazon.com history. <a href="http://bit.ly/7hnx8i" title="bit.ly" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7hnx8i</a> [bit.ly]</p><p>A good chunk of our revenue comes from the box actually, even with Vista.</p><p>I work at Microsoft<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is actually not true .
Windows 7 beat Harry Potter for highest pre-sale item in Amazon.com history .
http : //bit.ly/7hnx8i [ bit.ly ] A good chunk of our revenue comes from the box actually , even with Vista.I work at Microsoft : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is actually not true.
Windows 7 beat Harry Potter for highest pre-sale item in Amazon.com history.
http://bit.ly/7hnx8i [bit.ly]A good chunk of our revenue comes from the box actually, even with Vista.I work at Microsoft :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30295312</id>
	<title>Re:Yet another story stating the obvious</title>
	<author>L4t3r4lu5</author>
	<datestamp>1259579640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What do you mean "If you can't find that little certificate what choice do you have...[?]" Surely you don't think that just because Microsoft's rubbish Genuine Advantage software says that you need a new license that you actually need to buy a new license for your OS? If you have a license for it, there are numerous methods of disabling the notifications which pop up, and also remedying the slowdown encountered.<br> <br>I'll not link anything as it might be construed as aiding bypassing copy protection, but suffice to say that your Google-fu must be quadraplegic if you can't find a set of instructions for <i>disabling Windows Genuine Advantage notifications</i>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What do you mean " If you ca n't find that little certificate what choice do you have... [ ?
] " Surely you do n't think that just because Microsoft 's rubbish Genuine Advantage software says that you need a new license that you actually need to buy a new license for your OS ?
If you have a license for it , there are numerous methods of disabling the notifications which pop up , and also remedying the slowdown encountered .
I 'll not link anything as it might be construed as aiding bypassing copy protection , but suffice to say that your Google-fu must be quadraplegic if you ca n't find a set of instructions for disabling Windows Genuine Advantage notifications .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What do you mean "If you can't find that little certificate what choice do you have...[?
]" Surely you don't think that just because Microsoft's rubbish Genuine Advantage software says that you need a new license that you actually need to buy a new license for your OS?
If you have a license for it, there are numerous methods of disabling the notifications which pop up, and also remedying the slowdown encountered.
I'll not link anything as it might be construed as aiding bypassing copy protection, but suffice to say that your Google-fu must be quadraplegic if you can't find a set of instructions for disabling Windows Genuine Advantage notifications.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290574</id>
	<title>Liars and statistics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259669580000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How on earth do you accurately measure OS installations.  I only say because I think the Linux/BSD/other non MS/Apple OSs are probably under represented.  For example like a few other people, I stamped an ext{x} shaped boot on the ntfs partition on my computers.</p><p>Those computers officially run some sort of Windows but there is no Windows on here but I'm sure my PCs are counted as running Windows by Dell/HP et al.</p><p>Sadly - for balance - I can't point at a machine that came with Linux pre installed and had it replaced by Windows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How on earth do you accurately measure OS installations .
I only say because I think the Linux/BSD/other non MS/Apple OSs are probably under represented .
For example like a few other people , I stamped an ext { x } shaped boot on the ntfs partition on my computers.Those computers officially run some sort of Windows but there is no Windows on here but I 'm sure my PCs are counted as running Windows by Dell/HP et al.Sadly - for balance - I ca n't point at a machine that came with Linux pre installed and had it replaced by Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How on earth do you accurately measure OS installations.
I only say because I think the Linux/BSD/other non MS/Apple OSs are probably under represented.
For example like a few other people, I stamped an ext{x} shaped boot on the ntfs partition on my computers.Those computers officially run some sort of Windows but there is no Windows on here but I'm sure my PCs are counted as running Windows by Dell/HP et al.Sadly - for balance - I can't point at a machine that came with Linux pre installed and had it replaced by Windows.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30293338</id>
	<title>Windows 7 Lard Disk Problems?</title>
	<author>lcreech</author>
	<datestamp>1259687520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or Just me? I have several NTFS formatted Seagate 2.0 Terabyte drives that are fine under Linux, XP SP3 and Leopard that appear as 99.9 Megabyte (NOT GigaByte) drives under Windows 7 and without any files. Rendering Windows 7 totally useless with my data. Yes, All drivers and the BIOS are both up to date for my GA-EP45-UD3P motherboard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or Just me ?
I have several NTFS formatted Seagate 2.0 Terabyte drives that are fine under Linux , XP SP3 and Leopard that appear as 99.9 Megabyte ( NOT GigaByte ) drives under Windows 7 and without any files .
Rendering Windows 7 totally useless with my data .
Yes , All drivers and the BIOS are both up to date for my GA-EP45-UD3P motherboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or Just me?
I have several NTFS formatted Seagate 2.0 Terabyte drives that are fine under Linux, XP SP3 and Leopard that appear as 99.9 Megabyte (NOT GigaByte) drives under Windows 7 and without any files.
Rendering Windows 7 totally useless with my data.
Yes, All drivers and the BIOS are both up to date for my GA-EP45-UD3P motherboard.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292094</id>
	<title>Compare to Vista</title>
	<author>xswl0931</author>
	<datestamp>1259677440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Assuming a similar number of people bought a new computer that came with Vista and it took 5 months to reach the same market share as Win7 in 3 weeks, I would say that a good portion of Win7 sales is on upgrades and not new computers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Assuming a similar number of people bought a new computer that came with Vista and it took 5 months to reach the same market share as Win7 in 3 weeks , I would say that a good portion of Win7 sales is on upgrades and not new computers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Assuming a similar number of people bought a new computer that came with Vista and it took 5 months to reach the same market share as Win7 in 3 weeks, I would say that a good portion of Win7 sales is on upgrades and not new computers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291988</id>
	<title>Numbers missing one thing</title>
	<author>celtic\_hackr</author>
	<datestamp>1259676780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ah, but how many of those Windows 7 sales were new PCs that got wiped and Linux installed in place?  Also, we know how prejudiced Net Apps numbers are.
<br> <br>I suspect Net Apps numbers. I don't see any Macs defecting to Windows. Why should they? I also don't see Macs trading for Linux. Macs are used primarily by artists, and Mac faithful. I think perhaps they are playing with their numbers. I'd like to see the raw numbers and their methodology.<br> <br> Not to mention who knows how well/bad they are weighting the numbers. Odd, too, that they changed their methodology two years ago. Why? Do the weights really reflect the internet populations of the other countries? Are the visitors from other countries to the websites they track typical users of those countries? In my experience, with interactions with non-US users outside of the tech areas, is that the number of Linux desktops is a tad higher than what Net Apps reports. According to my experience excluding geeks and IT association is somewhere between 5\% and 10\% of users are Linux users. But, my numbers are anecdotal at best, and I have a fair number of non-US contacts. We also don't know what those 40,000 sites, they monitor, are? Do they include any windows support sites? Do they include any sites likely to be used by Linux users? <br> <br>
Furthermore, maybe the Linux numbers are lower because Linux users tend to hit different sites more and the ones they are tracking less? Lastly, is the methodology robust enough to say that Mac users really fell 0.14\% or 0.0014 fractional? Is their methodology really accurate to FOUR decimal places!? Wow! That must be the best damn population estimation algorithm EVER! They ought to patent that sucker! Just kidding. Sure there are math techniques to get 4 place accuracy, but you're making an statistical approximation of an estimated population based on an estimated random distribution! And that is going to be accurate to four decimal places! Wow. Just WOW!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah , but how many of those Windows 7 sales were new PCs that got wiped and Linux installed in place ?
Also , we know how prejudiced Net Apps numbers are .
I suspect Net Apps numbers .
I do n't see any Macs defecting to Windows .
Why should they ?
I also do n't see Macs trading for Linux .
Macs are used primarily by artists , and Mac faithful .
I think perhaps they are playing with their numbers .
I 'd like to see the raw numbers and their methodology .
Not to mention who knows how well/bad they are weighting the numbers .
Odd , too , that they changed their methodology two years ago .
Why ? Do the weights really reflect the internet populations of the other countries ?
Are the visitors from other countries to the websites they track typical users of those countries ?
In my experience , with interactions with non-US users outside of the tech areas , is that the number of Linux desktops is a tad higher than what Net Apps reports .
According to my experience excluding geeks and IT association is somewhere between 5 \ % and 10 \ % of users are Linux users .
But , my numbers are anecdotal at best , and I have a fair number of non-US contacts .
We also do n't know what those 40,000 sites , they monitor , are ?
Do they include any windows support sites ?
Do they include any sites likely to be used by Linux users ?
Furthermore , maybe the Linux numbers are lower because Linux users tend to hit different sites more and the ones they are tracking less ?
Lastly , is the methodology robust enough to say that Mac users really fell 0.14 \ % or 0.0014 fractional ?
Is their methodology really accurate to FOUR decimal places ! ?
Wow ! That must be the best damn population estimation algorithm EVER !
They ought to patent that sucker !
Just kidding .
Sure there are math techniques to get 4 place accuracy , but you 're making an statistical approximation of an estimated population based on an estimated random distribution !
And that is going to be accurate to four decimal places !
Wow. Just WOW !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah, but how many of those Windows 7 sales were new PCs that got wiped and Linux installed in place?
Also, we know how prejudiced Net Apps numbers are.
I suspect Net Apps numbers.
I don't see any Macs defecting to Windows.
Why should they?
I also don't see Macs trading for Linux.
Macs are used primarily by artists, and Mac faithful.
I think perhaps they are playing with their numbers.
I'd like to see the raw numbers and their methodology.
Not to mention who knows how well/bad they are weighting the numbers.
Odd, too, that they changed their methodology two years ago.
Why? Do the weights really reflect the internet populations of the other countries?
Are the visitors from other countries to the websites they track typical users of those countries?
In my experience, with interactions with non-US users outside of the tech areas, is that the number of Linux desktops is a tad higher than what Net Apps reports.
According to my experience excluding geeks and IT association is somewhere between 5\% and 10\% of users are Linux users.
But, my numbers are anecdotal at best, and I have a fair number of non-US contacts.
We also don't know what those 40,000 sites, they monitor, are?
Do they include any windows support sites?
Do they include any sites likely to be used by Linux users?
Furthermore, maybe the Linux numbers are lower because Linux users tend to hit different sites more and the ones they are tracking less?
Lastly, is the methodology robust enough to say that Mac users really fell 0.14\% or 0.0014 fractional?
Is their methodology really accurate to FOUR decimal places!?
Wow! That must be the best damn population estimation algorithm EVER!
They ought to patent that sucker!
Just kidding.
Sure there are math techniques to get 4 place accuracy, but you're making an statistical approximation of an estimated population based on an estimated random distribution!
And that is going to be accurate to four decimal places!
Wow. Just WOW!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30293822</id>
	<title>Re:Have you seen a Linux desktop in the wild?</title>
	<author>eggnoglatte</author>
	<datestamp>1259691540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure. FitnessWorld (a gym chain) in Vancouver runs KDE on Linux desktops (don't know which distro). There is a linux solution for restaurant PC (the ones where the waiter enters orders), although I don't know if you'd call it a desktop - it is a custom interface with a few dozen buttons on a touch screen. Is it more or less than 1\% total? Who knows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure .
FitnessWorld ( a gym chain ) in Vancouver runs KDE on Linux desktops ( do n't know which distro ) .
There is a linux solution for restaurant PC ( the ones where the waiter enters orders ) , although I do n't know if you 'd call it a desktop - it is a custom interface with a few dozen buttons on a touch screen .
Is it more or less than 1 \ % total ?
Who knows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure.
FitnessWorld (a gym chain) in Vancouver runs KDE on Linux desktops (don't know which distro).
There is a linux solution for restaurant PC (the ones where the waiter enters orders), although I don't know if you'd call it a desktop - it is a custom interface with a few dozen buttons on a touch screen.
Is it more or less than 1\% total?
Who knows.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290660</id>
	<title>Re:Linux 20\% market share</title>
	<author>mr\_matticus</author>
	<datestamp>1259669940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How?</p><p>The NetApp data:<br>Windows:  92.52\%<br>Mac OS X: 5.12\%<br>Linux (all flavors): 1.00\%<br>Other (including iPhone, Symbian, Java ME): 1.36\%</p><p>That's 7.48\% "non-MS share" on these numbers (and really only non-Windows--it's not apparent whether they count Windows Mobile as "Windows" or as "Other").  Linux, therefore has 13.37\% of the "non-MS market".  For comparison of the other ones broken out entirely, Apple has 73.26\% of that market (Mac+iPhone).  Java ME has 6.1\%.  Symbian has 2.5\%</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How ? The NetApp data : Windows : 92.52 \ % Mac OS X : 5.12 \ % Linux ( all flavors ) : 1.00 \ % Other ( including iPhone , Symbian , Java ME ) : 1.36 \ % That 's 7.48 \ % " non-MS share " on these numbers ( and really only non-Windows--it 's not apparent whether they count Windows Mobile as " Windows " or as " Other " ) .
Linux , therefore has 13.37 \ % of the " non-MS market " .
For comparison of the other ones broken out entirely , Apple has 73.26 \ % of that market ( Mac + iPhone ) .
Java ME has 6.1 \ % .
Symbian has 2.5 \ %</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How?The NetApp data:Windows:  92.52\%Mac OS X: 5.12\%Linux (all flavors): 1.00\%Other (including iPhone, Symbian, Java ME): 1.36\%That's 7.48\% "non-MS share" on these numbers (and really only non-Windows--it's not apparent whether they count Windows Mobile as "Windows" or as "Other").
Linux, therefore has 13.37\% of the "non-MS market".
For comparison of the other ones broken out entirely, Apple has 73.26\% of that market (Mac+iPhone).
Java ME has 6.1\%.
Symbian has 2.5\%</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291756</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 got me twice...</title>
	<author>espiesp</author>
	<datestamp>1259675460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Remind me again why you willingly purchased two licenses for the same software?  I mean, I do understand your hatred for bloat-ware and all... But that license doesn't preclude you from uninstalling all of it, or better yet, installing from a virgin OEM disc. Legally.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Remind me again why you willingly purchased two licenses for the same software ?
I mean , I do understand your hatred for bloat-ware and all... But that license does n't preclude you from uninstalling all of it , or better yet , installing from a virgin OEM disc .
Legally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remind me again why you willingly purchased two licenses for the same software?
I mean, I do understand your hatred for bloat-ware and all... But that license doesn't preclude you from uninstalling all of it, or better yet, installing from a virgin OEM disc.
Legally.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291048</id>
	<title>Re:so long as vista dies....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259671620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>application launch time ARE slower, by a few seconds, compared to XP. especially when opening MS Word or Excel, I'd say more than a few seconds</p></div><p>I often see claims like this and I question them. I don't remember the launch times for Word or Excel 2003, but ever since Office 2007 on XP I've found the applications take no longer than a few seconds to launch, total. In the case of Excel, I can literally double-click the icon, count "one, two, three," and I have a blank spreadsheet.  It's not much slower on my Atom-powered Eee PC with slow solid-state drives. If your copies are launching many times slower than that, either your hardware is very out of date, or else you have a very old installation that's bogged down by upgrade cruft. A clean install of Office (after a complete uninstall) should make those problems go away, in my experience.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>application launch time ARE slower , by a few seconds , compared to XP .
especially when opening MS Word or Excel , I 'd say more than a few secondsI often see claims like this and I question them .
I do n't remember the launch times for Word or Excel 2003 , but ever since Office 2007 on XP I 've found the applications take no longer than a few seconds to launch , total .
In the case of Excel , I can literally double-click the icon , count " one , two , three , " and I have a blank spreadsheet .
It 's not much slower on my Atom-powered Eee PC with slow solid-state drives .
If your copies are launching many times slower than that , either your hardware is very out of date , or else you have a very old installation that 's bogged down by upgrade cruft .
A clean install of Office ( after a complete uninstall ) should make those problems go away , in my experience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>application launch time ARE slower, by a few seconds, compared to XP.
especially when opening MS Word or Excel, I'd say more than a few secondsI often see claims like this and I question them.
I don't remember the launch times for Word or Excel 2003, but ever since Office 2007 on XP I've found the applications take no longer than a few seconds to launch, total.
In the case of Excel, I can literally double-click the icon, count "one, two, three," and I have a blank spreadsheet.
It's not much slower on my Atom-powered Eee PC with slow solid-state drives.
If your copies are launching many times slower than that, either your hardware is very out of date, or else you have a very old installation that's bogged down by upgrade cruft.
A clean install of Office (after a complete uninstall) should make those problems go away, in my experience.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30293266</id>
	<title>Re:Good news for Linux</title>
	<author>mlts</author>
	<datestamp>1259686620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The LapLink mover (especially the Enterprise version) is a good idea for this case.</p><p>Call me an old coot, but I just do not like, in any fashion, an OS upgrade between versions (especially for production critical machines.)  Installing on a bare metal machine means that there is no cruft, half-configured files, broken Registry/ODM/NetInfo entries, or anything else on the OS partitions that might cause problems.  Plus, if there is an application issue, it is easier to find conflicts.</p><p>Of course, the nice by-product of a complete bare metal install is the ability to re-partition the OS drives, so if a machine should have the OS drive mirrored, this is a good time to find another disk to drop in, change the OS drives to RAID candidates on a RAID card, and install.</p><p>There are of course exceptions.  On non-production systems (read, systems I don't need to have an auditable documentation trail), I used to be able to upgrade RedHat versions by a simple manual RPM install of the core "redhat-release" RPM, then run yum -y upgrade from a repository on the LAN and let it run.  In a few hours, most likely I'd end up with either the latest version of the OS.  The cases it didn't work, I'd end up with some RPM dependency that would need to be cleared up, and then it would finish the upgrade cycle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The LapLink mover ( especially the Enterprise version ) is a good idea for this case.Call me an old coot , but I just do not like , in any fashion , an OS upgrade between versions ( especially for production critical machines .
) Installing on a bare metal machine means that there is no cruft , half-configured files , broken Registry/ODM/NetInfo entries , or anything else on the OS partitions that might cause problems .
Plus , if there is an application issue , it is easier to find conflicts.Of course , the nice by-product of a complete bare metal install is the ability to re-partition the OS drives , so if a machine should have the OS drive mirrored , this is a good time to find another disk to drop in , change the OS drives to RAID candidates on a RAID card , and install.There are of course exceptions .
On non-production systems ( read , systems I do n't need to have an auditable documentation trail ) , I used to be able to upgrade RedHat versions by a simple manual RPM install of the core " redhat-release " RPM , then run yum -y upgrade from a repository on the LAN and let it run .
In a few hours , most likely I 'd end up with either the latest version of the OS .
The cases it did n't work , I 'd end up with some RPM dependency that would need to be cleared up , and then it would finish the upgrade cycle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The LapLink mover (especially the Enterprise version) is a good idea for this case.Call me an old coot, but I just do not like, in any fashion, an OS upgrade between versions (especially for production critical machines.
)  Installing on a bare metal machine means that there is no cruft, half-configured files, broken Registry/ODM/NetInfo entries, or anything else on the OS partitions that might cause problems.
Plus, if there is an application issue, it is easier to find conflicts.Of course, the nice by-product of a complete bare metal install is the ability to re-partition the OS drives, so if a machine should have the OS drive mirrored, this is a good time to find another disk to drop in, change the OS drives to RAID candidates on a RAID card, and install.There are of course exceptions.
On non-production systems (read, systems I don't need to have an auditable documentation trail), I used to be able to upgrade RedHat versions by a simple manual RPM install of the core "redhat-release" RPM, then run yum -y upgrade from a repository on the LAN and let it run.
In a few hours, most likely I'd end up with either the latest version of the OS.
The cases it didn't work, I'd end up with some RPM dependency that would need to be cleared up, and then it would finish the upgrade cycle.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30294322</id>
	<title>Re:Liars and statistics</title>
	<author>chammy</author>
	<datestamp>1259696580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Excellent point. There is no way to compare Linux usage against Windows because the ecosystem is so diverse.<br> <br>
Consider this: Windows runs on x86. Linux runs on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_Linux\_supported\_architectures" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">these</a> [wikipedia.org].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Excellent point .
There is no way to compare Linux usage against Windows because the ecosystem is so diverse .
Consider this : Windows runs on x86 .
Linux runs on these [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Excellent point.
There is no way to compare Linux usage against Windows because the ecosystem is so diverse.
Consider this: Windows runs on x86.
Linux runs on these [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30293524</id>
	<title>Time to change useragent and add another "gain"</title>
	<author>xiando</author>
	<datestamp>1259689260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>So Windows 7 is "growing"? Sounds like I should "upgrade" by changing my general.useragent.override sometime soon, all those sites who do not work if you admit GNU/Linux as OS but do work if you are "using" Windows will probably start working great "using" Windows 7 sometime in the near future.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So Windows 7 is " growing " ?
Sounds like I should " upgrade " by changing my general.useragent.override sometime soon , all those sites who do not work if you admit GNU/Linux as OS but do work if you are " using " Windows will probably start working great " using " Windows 7 sometime in the near future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Windows 7 is "growing"?
Sounds like I should "upgrade" by changing my general.useragent.override sometime soon, all those sites who do not work if you admit GNU/Linux as OS but do work if you are "using" Windows will probably start working great "using" Windows 7 sometime in the near future.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30294734</id>
	<title>Re:Linux 20\% market share</title>
	<author>CSMatt</author>
	<datestamp>1259614740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That's 7.48\% "non-MS share" on these numbers (and really only non-Windows--it's not apparent whether they count Windows Mobile as "Windows" or as "Other"). Linux, therefore has <strong>13.37</strong>\% of the "non-MS market".</p></div><p>Interesting percentage there.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's 7.48 \ % " non-MS share " on these numbers ( and really only non-Windows--it 's not apparent whether they count Windows Mobile as " Windows " or as " Other " ) .
Linux , therefore has 13.37 \ % of the " non-MS market " .Interesting percentage there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's 7.48\% "non-MS share" on these numbers (and really only non-Windows--it's not apparent whether they count Windows Mobile as "Windows" or as "Other").
Linux, therefore has 13.37\% of the "non-MS market".Interesting percentage there.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30294744</id>
	<title>Re:Have you seen a Linux desktop in the wild?</title>
	<author>ahetland</author>
	<datestamp>1259571600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I study economics in Denmark, and several of my fellow students use Ubuntu. I think one of the reasons is, that it is quite easy (and free) to get LaTeX going with AUCtex. Whenever you need your usual windows software, you just boot into your dual boot windows installation.

Also, I have spotted Ubuntu in the wild a few times; recently I noticed it was used in a couple of hostels while backpacking in Central Europe. You'd be amazed to see how many<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.exe files were scattered on the desktop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I study economics in Denmark , and several of my fellow students use Ubuntu .
I think one of the reasons is , that it is quite easy ( and free ) to get LaTeX going with AUCtex .
Whenever you need your usual windows software , you just boot into your dual boot windows installation .
Also , I have spotted Ubuntu in the wild a few times ; recently I noticed it was used in a couple of hostels while backpacking in Central Europe .
You 'd be amazed to see how many .exe files were scattered on the desktop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I study economics in Denmark, and several of my fellow students use Ubuntu.
I think one of the reasons is, that it is quite easy (and free) to get LaTeX going with AUCtex.
Whenever you need your usual windows software, you just boot into your dual boot windows installation.
Also, I have spotted Ubuntu in the wild a few times; recently I noticed it was used in a couple of hostels while backpacking in Central Europe.
You'd be amazed to see how many .exe files were scattered on the desktop.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290786</id>
	<title>how is this news?</title>
	<author>Carbaholic</author>
	<datestamp>1259670540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Certainly how is it bad news for microsoft? It's just saying that people are upgrading from XP to 7</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Certainly how is it bad news for microsoft ?
It 's just saying that people are upgrading from XP to 7</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Certainly how is it bad news for microsoft?
It's just saying that people are upgrading from XP to 7</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30305930</id>
	<title>Re:Yet another story stating the obvious</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1259588640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IIRC upgrade copies of 7 are valid for upgrding from XP even though you have to do a clean install, I dunno what if any methods they use to check you have a legitmiate copy of XP when doing so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IIRC upgrade copies of 7 are valid for upgrding from XP even though you have to do a clean install , I dunno what if any methods they use to check you have a legitmiate copy of XP when doing so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IIRC upgrade copies of 7 are valid for upgrding from XP even though you have to do a clean install, I dunno what if any methods they use to check you have a legitmiate copy of XP when doing so.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292068</id>
	<title>Re:Correction</title>
	<author>HermMunster</author>
	<datestamp>1259677260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And this number is off by a large factor as compared to other sites that collect information from 20,000 websites over an 8-10 year period.  Those other site statistics show Linux in the 4-5\% market share and the Mac in the 3\% share.  So, how come they are different?</p><p>We can even evaluate this ourselves.  What is 92\% of 1 billion computers?  920,000,000 computers.  That leaves 80 million to the rest of the crowd.  That itself is impossible as Linux has about 100 million users world-wide.  The Mac, at the time of the iPhone introduction had 20 million active OSX based Macs.  That was 2-3 years ago.  Apple's share has grown and so has Linux.  Clearly the numbers show a much greater share than 1\%.</p><p>I have 13 computers using Linux and 3 using OSX with an iPhone to boot.  I doubt I have been counted on any of those machines.  I also have 5 Vista machines and one Win7 machine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And this number is off by a large factor as compared to other sites that collect information from 20,000 websites over an 8-10 year period .
Those other site statistics show Linux in the 4-5 \ % market share and the Mac in the 3 \ % share .
So , how come they are different ? We can even evaluate this ourselves .
What is 92 \ % of 1 billion computers ?
920,000,000 computers .
That leaves 80 million to the rest of the crowd .
That itself is impossible as Linux has about 100 million users world-wide .
The Mac , at the time of the iPhone introduction had 20 million active OSX based Macs .
That was 2-3 years ago .
Apple 's share has grown and so has Linux .
Clearly the numbers show a much greater share than 1 \ % .I have 13 computers using Linux and 3 using OSX with an iPhone to boot .
I doubt I have been counted on any of those machines .
I also have 5 Vista machines and one Win7 machine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And this number is off by a large factor as compared to other sites that collect information from 20,000 websites over an 8-10 year period.
Those other site statistics show Linux in the 4-5\% market share and the Mac in the 3\% share.
So, how come they are different?We can even evaluate this ourselves.
What is 92\% of 1 billion computers?
920,000,000 computers.
That leaves 80 million to the rest of the crowd.
That itself is impossible as Linux has about 100 million users world-wide.
The Mac, at the time of the iPhone introduction had 20 million active OSX based Macs.
That was 2-3 years ago.
Apple's share has grown and so has Linux.
Clearly the numbers show a much greater share than 1\%.I have 13 computers using Linux and 3 using OSX with an iPhone to boot.
I doubt I have been counted on any of those machines.
I also have 5 Vista machines and one Win7 machine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291446</id>
	<title>Ballmer said in Feb that Linux \% higher than Mac</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259673600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Steveo gave a presentation to investors in Feb.2009 and the graph he was using shows the desktops and 1 was Windows, 2 was Windows pirated and the graph looks like Linux is slightly ahead of Mac.</p><p>Was Ballmer lying to investors?</p><p>I dont know but seems to me that "Ballmer says Linux desktops are higher than Mac." should have been better covered.</p><p>As for the 1\% meme that became popular this year, go back 3-5 years and you will see the numbers spouted back then were 2-6\%.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Steveo gave a presentation to investors in Feb.2009 and the graph he was using shows the desktops and 1 was Windows , 2 was Windows pirated and the graph looks like Linux is slightly ahead of Mac.Was Ballmer lying to investors ? I dont know but seems to me that " Ballmer says Linux desktops are higher than Mac .
" should have been better covered.As for the 1 \ % meme that became popular this year , go back 3-5 years and you will see the numbers spouted back then were 2-6 \ % .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Steveo gave a presentation to investors in Feb.2009 and the graph he was using shows the desktops and 1 was Windows, 2 was Windows pirated and the graph looks like Linux is slightly ahead of Mac.Was Ballmer lying to investors?I dont know but seems to me that "Ballmer says Linux desktops are higher than Mac.
" should have been better covered.As for the 1\% meme that became popular this year, go back 3-5 years and you will see the numbers spouted back then were 2-6\%.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290532</id>
	<title>Good news for Linux</title>
	<author>Meshach</author>
	<datestamp>1259669400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder how many of those are people who bought Windows 7 and how many are just people who bought a computer that came with Windows 7?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how many of those are people who bought Windows 7 and how many are just people who bought a computer that came with Windows 7 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how many of those are people who bought Windows 7 and how many are just people who bought a computer that came with Windows 7?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30294162</id>
	<title>Re:so long as vista dies....</title>
	<author>Blue Shifted</author>
	<datestamp>1259694720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>thank you for questioning!  i should have gone into more detail.</p><p>i had two brand new, identical atom n270 netbooks, sitting SIDE BY SIDE.  one with windows XP, the other with windows 7, both with Office 2007, and clicked the mouse buttons at the same exact time.  Word and Excel took a few seconds longer on windows 7.</p><p>NOTE: after opening Word and Excel a few times in a row, Windows 7 DID start to load them faster...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>thank you for questioning !
i should have gone into more detail.i had two brand new , identical atom n270 netbooks , sitting SIDE BY SIDE .
one with windows XP , the other with windows 7 , both with Office 2007 , and clicked the mouse buttons at the same exact time .
Word and Excel took a few seconds longer on windows 7.NOTE : after opening Word and Excel a few times in a row , Windows 7 DID start to load them faster.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>thank you for questioning!
i should have gone into more detail.i had two brand new, identical atom n270 netbooks, sitting SIDE BY SIDE.
one with windows XP, the other with windows 7, both with Office 2007, and clicked the mouse buttons at the same exact time.
Word and Excel took a few seconds longer on windows 7.NOTE: after opening Word and Excel a few times in a row, Windows 7 DID start to load them faster...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291384</id>
	<title>how many bought Windows 7?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259673360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet most of those using Windows 7 bought new PCs with it installed.  Most people do not upgrade the OS their PC uses.  And businesses as well as others who need to get work should wait until MS releases the first service pack before upgrading.  Wait until MS fixes the bugs and holes.</p><p>

Falcon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet most of those using Windows 7 bought new PCs with it installed .
Most people do not upgrade the OS their PC uses .
And businesses as well as others who need to get work should wait until MS releases the first service pack before upgrading .
Wait until MS fixes the bugs and holes .
Falcon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet most of those using Windows 7 bought new PCs with it installed.
Most people do not upgrade the OS their PC uses.
And businesses as well as others who need to get work should wait until MS releases the first service pack before upgrading.
Wait until MS fixes the bugs and holes.
Falcon</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30294448</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 Lard Disk Problems?</title>
	<author>asifyoucare</author>
	<datestamp>1259611440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lard - there's your problem right there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lard - there 's your problem right there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lard - there's your problem right there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292006</id>
	<title>Re:Yet another story stating the obvious</title>
	<author>Stormwatch</author>
	<datestamp>1259676900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Who upgrades from Debian to Windows? Or, Solaris to Windows?</p></div></blockquote><p>
Isn't moving to Windows, by definition, a downgrade?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who upgrades from Debian to Windows ?
Or , Solaris to Windows ?
Is n't moving to Windows , by definition , a downgrade ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who upgrades from Debian to Windows?
Or, Solaris to Windows?
Isn't moving to Windows, by definition, a downgrade?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291370</id>
	<title>Re:Finally...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259673240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's not so wrong. If you look at <a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/os-market-share.aspx?qprid=9" title="hitslink.com">these numbers</a> [hitslink.com], you can see that Mac lost<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.15\%, Windows stayed the same, and Linux gained<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.04\%. So, about 25\% of Mac's loss was Linux's gain. The rest seems to have been made up by mobile phones (but not the iphone, which also lost<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.01\%).<br> <br>

<a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/os-market-share.aspx?qprid=11" title="hitslink.com">The version trending</a> [hitslink.com] shows that as many people who dumped XP or Vista picked up 7 and as many people as dumped OSX 10.5 picked up 10.6. So, the decline in Mac share comes from pre-10.5. There are a lot of possibilities that jump to mind, but the most interesting is that people are dumping their old Macs for Linux or Windows 7.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's not so wrong .
If you look at these numbers [ hitslink.com ] , you can see that Mac lost .15 \ % , Windows stayed the same , and Linux gained .04 \ % .
So , about 25 \ % of Mac 's loss was Linux 's gain .
The rest seems to have been made up by mobile phones ( but not the iphone , which also lost .01 \ % ) .
The version trending [ hitslink.com ] shows that as many people who dumped XP or Vista picked up 7 and as many people as dumped OSX 10.5 picked up 10.6 .
So , the decline in Mac share comes from pre-10.5 .
There are a lot of possibilities that jump to mind , but the most interesting is that people are dumping their old Macs for Linux or Windows 7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's not so wrong.
If you look at these numbers [hitslink.com], you can see that Mac lost .15\%, Windows stayed the same, and Linux gained .04\%.
So, about 25\% of Mac's loss was Linux's gain.
The rest seems to have been made up by mobile phones (but not the iphone, which also lost .01\%).
The version trending [hitslink.com] shows that as many people who dumped XP or Vista picked up 7 and as many people as dumped OSX 10.5 picked up 10.6.
So, the decline in Mac share comes from pre-10.5.
There are a lot of possibilities that jump to mind, but the most interesting is that people are dumping their old Macs for Linux or Windows 7.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291236</id>
	<title>Yet another story stating the obvious</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259672580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course people are upgrading from XP to 7 - if they are upgrading at all.  Who upgrades from Debian to Windows?  Or, Solaris to Windows?<br>Oh - 6 XP users upgrade for every Vista user?  Surprise, surprise!!  Probably half a billion people in this world THOUGH about upgrading to Vista, but decided not to when Vista proved to be such a bomb.<br>Let's remember, Vista wouldn't run on old equipment, while Win7 runs on anything over a gigahertz with a gig of memory.  A lot of XP users COULDN'T upgrade to Vista!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course people are upgrading from XP to 7 - if they are upgrading at all .
Who upgrades from Debian to Windows ?
Or , Solaris to Windows ? Oh - 6 XP users upgrade for every Vista user ?
Surprise , surprise ! !
Probably half a billion people in this world THOUGH about upgrading to Vista , but decided not to when Vista proved to be such a bomb.Let 's remember , Vista would n't run on old equipment , while Win7 runs on anything over a gigahertz with a gig of memory .
A lot of XP users COULD N'T upgrade to Vista !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course people are upgrading from XP to 7 - if they are upgrading at all.
Who upgrades from Debian to Windows?
Or, Solaris to Windows?Oh - 6 XP users upgrade for every Vista user?
Surprise, surprise!!
Probably half a billion people in this world THOUGH about upgrading to Vista, but decided not to when Vista proved to be such a bomb.Let's remember, Vista wouldn't run on old equipment, while Win7 runs on anything over a gigahertz with a gig of memory.
A lot of XP users COULDN'T upgrade to Vista!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292724</id>
	<title>Re:Linux is more succesful than the iPhone</title>
	<author>flyingfsck</author>
	<datestamp>1259681760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you count iPhones which is an embedded device, then you should compare it against Linux embedded devices, of which there are more than 300 million made each year.  If one counts ALL Linux devices then there are at least 1.5 billion Linux devices in use (300 million times a 5 year lifetime) - possibly more than 2 billion if you add desktops and servers.  So Linux is actually by far the most popular OS ever.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you count iPhones which is an embedded device , then you should compare it against Linux embedded devices , of which there are more than 300 million made each year .
If one counts ALL Linux devices then there are at least 1.5 billion Linux devices in use ( 300 million times a 5 year lifetime ) - possibly more than 2 billion if you add desktops and servers .
So Linux is actually by far the most popular OS ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you count iPhones which is an embedded device, then you should compare it against Linux embedded devices, of which there are more than 300 million made each year.
If one counts ALL Linux devices then there are at least 1.5 billion Linux devices in use (300 million times a 5 year lifetime) - possibly more than 2 billion if you add desktops and servers.
So Linux is actually by far the most popular OS ever.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291546</id>
	<title>Re:Have you seen a Linux desktop in the wild?</title>
	<author>mugurel</author>
	<datestamp>1259674260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes! A few years ago! On a computer used to administer vegetable-sales in La Boquer&#237;a, the biggest food-market in Barcelona downtown.</p><p>In Japan I recently saw a subway-advertisement of Sharp netbooks showing a netbook with an ubuntu desktop, ubuntu logo, fully undisguised!</p><p>But I admit that doesn't make 1\% of the computers I have seen in the wild...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes !
A few years ago !
On a computer used to administer vegetable-sales in La Boquer   a , the biggest food-market in Barcelona downtown.In Japan I recently saw a subway-advertisement of Sharp netbooks showing a netbook with an ubuntu desktop , ubuntu logo , fully undisguised ! But I admit that does n't make 1 \ % of the computers I have seen in the wild.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes!
A few years ago!
On a computer used to administer vegetable-sales in La Boquería, the biggest food-market in Barcelona downtown.In Japan I recently saw a subway-advertisement of Sharp netbooks showing a netbook with an ubuntu desktop, ubuntu logo, fully undisguised!But I admit that doesn't make 1\% of the computers I have seen in the wild...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290810</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>dingen</author>
	<datestamp>1259670600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yes, 7 is ***cheap*** for education.</p></div><p>Whatever the price, it will always be endlessly more expensive than Linux.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , 7 is * * * cheap * * * for education.Whatever the price , it will always be endlessly more expensive than Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, 7 is ***cheap*** for education.Whatever the price, it will always be endlessly more expensive than Linux.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30294510</id>
	<title>Re:Linux 20\% market share</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259611920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>//Linux, therefore has 13.37\% of the "non-MS market".</p><p>Linux has 13.37, is anybody else seeing this? l337?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>//Linux , therefore has 13.37 \ % of the " non-MS market " .Linux has 13.37 , is anybody else seeing this ?
l337 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>//Linux, therefore has 13.37\% of the "non-MS market".Linux has 13.37, is anybody else seeing this?
l337?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291402</id>
	<title>Re:Liars and statistics</title>
	<author>moderatorrater</author>
	<datestamp>1259673420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It looks like the statistics come from internet hits. If that's the case, then the numbers wouldn't be skewed by which operating system was bought on the computer, only which one's being used on it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks like the statistics come from internet hits .
If that 's the case , then the numbers would n't be skewed by which operating system was bought on the computer , only which one 's being used on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks like the statistics come from internet hits.
If that's the case, then the numbers wouldn't be skewed by which operating system was bought on the computer, only which one's being used on it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292164</id>
	<title>corporate</title>
	<author>TheSHAD0W</author>
	<datestamp>1259677920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder how many of these swaps were corporate users finally dumping their very old XP machines after having avoided Vista for so long?  If so, I hope they like their pre-SP1 OS...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how many of these swaps were corporate users finally dumping their very old XP machines after having avoided Vista for so long ?
If so , I hope they like their pre-SP1 OS.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how many of these swaps were corporate users finally dumping their very old XP machines after having avoided Vista for so long?
If so, I hope they like their pre-SP1 OS...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30436764</id>
	<title>Re:Linux is more succesful than the iPhone</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260791520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>@flyingfsck<br>Because one person owns many of these devices. At my school, out of every twenty people, only one will know about linux. My school has many enhanced students, taking one third of the population. That means there are many more gifted kids in my school than linux users. Quite interestingly, every computer has XP installed, but pressing Ctrl+Alt before the PXE agent exits causes a network boot of OpenSuSE from the school's Novell linux servers. Unfortunately, you can't actually do anything interesting on that linux other than reimage windows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>@ flyingfsckBecause one person owns many of these devices .
At my school , out of every twenty people , only one will know about linux .
My school has many enhanced students , taking one third of the population .
That means there are many more gifted kids in my school than linux users .
Quite interestingly , every computer has XP installed , but pressing Ctrl + Alt before the PXE agent exits causes a network boot of OpenSuSE from the school 's Novell linux servers .
Unfortunately , you ca n't actually do anything interesting on that linux other than reimage windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>@flyingfsckBecause one person owns many of these devices.
At my school, out of every twenty people, only one will know about linux.
My school has many enhanced students, taking one third of the population.
That means there are many more gifted kids in my school than linux users.
Quite interestingly, every computer has XP installed, but pressing Ctrl+Alt before the PXE agent exits causes a network boot of OpenSuSE from the school's Novell linux servers.
Unfortunately, you can't actually do anything interesting on that linux other than reimage windows.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30299174</id>
	<title>I'm missing the point</title>
	<author>KnownIssues</author>
	<datestamp>1259605200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or at least, the point of the verbage. It's news that people who buy an upgrade stop using the old version? Is news is that people weren't buying Vista and and people are convinced that Windows 7 is the Windows upgrade that Vista was supposed to be all along. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I really don't get what point is being made here. All the responses I've seen have been about the effect on the Linux/MacOS market, and that might all be true, but it doesn't seem to be the point the OP is trying to make. Or is the point really just "here's some sales numbers" and the headline is just the best one can do with such a bland piece of news?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or at least , the point of the verbage .
It 's news that people who buy an upgrade stop using the old version ?
Is news is that people were n't buying Vista and and people are convinced that Windows 7 is the Windows upgrade that Vista was supposed to be all along .
I 'm not trying to be sarcastic , I really do n't get what point is being made here .
All the responses I 've seen have been about the effect on the Linux/MacOS market , and that might all be true , but it does n't seem to be the point the OP is trying to make .
Or is the point really just " here 's some sales numbers " and the headline is just the best one can do with such a bland piece of news ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or at least, the point of the verbage.
It's news that people who buy an upgrade stop using the old version?
Is news is that people weren't buying Vista and and people are convinced that Windows 7 is the Windows upgrade that Vista was supposed to be all along.
I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I really don't get what point is being made here.
All the responses I've seen have been about the effect on the Linux/MacOS market, and that might all be true, but it doesn't seem to be the point the OP is trying to make.
Or is the point really just "here's some sales numbers" and the headline is just the best one can do with such a bland piece of news?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292072</id>
	<title>Re:Linux is more succesful than the iPhone</title>
	<author>Nerdfest</author>
	<datestamp>1259677260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's *way* less shiny. Seriously, if Canonical hired some good graphic designers (it hurts a little to say that) and added some serious polish to the desktop, and some of the more common Gnome apps, it would go a long way towards Linux market share<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... well, that and a little advertising.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's * way * less shiny .
Seriously , if Canonical hired some good graphic designers ( it hurts a little to say that ) and added some serious polish to the desktop , and some of the more common Gnome apps , it would go a long way towards Linux market share ... well , that and a little advertising .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's *way* less shiny.
Seriously, if Canonical hired some good graphic designers (it hurts a little to say that) and added some serious polish to the desktop, and some of the more common Gnome apps, it would go a long way towards Linux market share ... well, that and a little advertising.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292026</id>
	<title>Linux market share higher?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259677020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How many Windows machines also have a linux distribution installed? I would bet a tangible percentage of the windows market share would also have a Linux distribution in dual boot. Bare in mind here Net Applications market share research is based on visits to web pages. There is a way that many more linux installations could be hiding out there: It's plausible a good number of such systems may see Windows used for surfing/chilling, but linux not heavily used for visits to web pages. In any case clearly 1.2\% market share does not fairly characterise the total number of non-server linux installations on PCs.
<br> <br>
Do any 'dotters know of any research out there where someone surveyed the major distributions to gather statistics on the number of active installations?? As they should be able to get this data from updates downloaded from repositories etc. and then work towards finding a total number of systems in use. I would presume Microsoft has excellent statistics on usage from monitoring their update servers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How many Windows machines also have a linux distribution installed ?
I would bet a tangible percentage of the windows market share would also have a Linux distribution in dual boot .
Bare in mind here Net Applications market share research is based on visits to web pages .
There is a way that many more linux installations could be hiding out there : It 's plausible a good number of such systems may see Windows used for surfing/chilling , but linux not heavily used for visits to web pages .
In any case clearly 1.2 \ % market share does not fairly characterise the total number of non-server linux installations on PCs .
Do any 'dotters know of any research out there where someone surveyed the major distributions to gather statistics on the number of active installations ? ?
As they should be able to get this data from updates downloaded from repositories etc .
and then work towards finding a total number of systems in use .
I would presume Microsoft has excellent statistics on usage from monitoring their update servers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many Windows machines also have a linux distribution installed?
I would bet a tangible percentage of the windows market share would also have a Linux distribution in dual boot.
Bare in mind here Net Applications market share research is based on visits to web pages.
There is a way that many more linux installations could be hiding out there: It's plausible a good number of such systems may see Windows used for surfing/chilling, but linux not heavily used for visits to web pages.
In any case clearly 1.2\% market share does not fairly characterise the total number of non-server linux installations on PCs.
Do any 'dotters know of any research out there where someone surveyed the major distributions to gather statistics on the number of active installations??
As they should be able to get this data from updates downloaded from repositories etc.
and then work towards finding a total number of systems in use.
I would presume Microsoft has excellent statistics on usage from monitoring their update servers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290920</id>
	<title>Re:To be expected?</title>
	<author>NoYob</author>
	<datestamp>1259671020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So, was Windows 7 expected to Rip all thsoe Happy Mac customers back to Windows?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.</p></div><p>Yes.</p><p>I call it the "Hugh Grant" syndrome. See, you're at home, have complete access to a beauty, but, it gets old. Same old same old. You something dangerous - exciting! So, you go around and you see this painted up whore and you just think, "Even though I have prime rib at home, it's fun to go for the over processed I-don't-know-what's-exactly-in-the-meat hamburger. Now, they get so used to the excitement, they start spending more time with the painted up whore. Some of get to liking the old thing that we stick with her - I'm still using XP - but I tell you, 7 looks real fine from afar!</p><p>So, you see, Mac will be losing market share to Windows.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , was Windows 7 expected to Rip all thsoe Happy Mac customers back to Windows ?
.Yes.I call it the " Hugh Grant " syndrome .
See , you 're at home , have complete access to a beauty , but , it gets old .
Same old same old .
You something dangerous - exciting !
So , you go around and you see this painted up whore and you just think , " Even though I have prime rib at home , it 's fun to go for the over processed I-do n't-know-what 's-exactly-in-the-meat hamburger .
Now , they get so used to the excitement , they start spending more time with the painted up whore .
Some of get to liking the old thing that we stick with her - I 'm still using XP - but I tell you , 7 looks real fine from afar ! So , you see , Mac will be losing market share to Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, was Windows 7 expected to Rip all thsoe Happy Mac customers back to Windows?
.Yes.I call it the "Hugh Grant" syndrome.
See, you're at home, have complete access to a beauty, but, it gets old.
Same old same old.
You something dangerous - exciting!
So, you go around and you see this painted up whore and you just think, "Even though I have prime rib at home, it's fun to go for the over processed I-don't-know-what's-exactly-in-the-meat hamburger.
Now, they get so used to the excitement, they start spending more time with the painted up whore.
Some of get to liking the old thing that we stick with her - I'm still using XP - but I tell you, 7 looks real fine from afar!So, you see, Mac will be losing market share to Windows.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290628</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30294964</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 Lard Disk Problems?</title>
	<author>TheThiefMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1259575140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds like something is dealing with the number of (512 byte) sectors on the drive as a 32-bit number, and it's wrapping round. Or the number of 512 byte filesystem clusters.</p><p>Oh wait, except "2 TB" drives will only have ~1.8 TB (binary) size, so would be nowhere near the 32-bit sector count limit which would make them wrap...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like something is dealing with the number of ( 512 byte ) sectors on the drive as a 32-bit number , and it 's wrapping round .
Or the number of 512 byte filesystem clusters.Oh wait , except " 2 TB " drives will only have ~ 1.8 TB ( binary ) size , so would be nowhere near the 32-bit sector count limit which would make them wrap.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like something is dealing with the number of (512 byte) sectors on the drive as a 32-bit number, and it's wrapping round.
Or the number of 512 byte filesystem clusters.Oh wait, except "2 TB" drives will only have ~1.8 TB (binary) size, so would be nowhere near the 32-bit sector count limit which would make them wrap...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30293338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291838</id>
	<title>Re:To be expected?</title>
	<author>Heir Of The Mess</author>
	<datestamp>1259675760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>These percentage figures don't give the complete picture, who can say if the number of XP users has really reduced. I notice the mobile OSs have gone up which means that more people are able to check the web from their mobile while on the go, doesn't mean that it reduces the number of desktop os users. A table of percentages, and absolute numbers would give a clearer picture.</htmltext>
<tokenext>These percentage figures do n't give the complete picture , who can say if the number of XP users has really reduced .
I notice the mobile OSs have gone up which means that more people are able to check the web from their mobile while on the go , does n't mean that it reduces the number of desktop os users .
A table of percentages , and absolute numbers would give a clearer picture .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These percentage figures don't give the complete picture, who can say if the number of XP users has really reduced.
I notice the mobile OSs have gone up which means that more people are able to check the web from their mobile while on the go, doesn't mean that it reduces the number of desktop os users.
A table of percentages, and absolute numbers would give a clearer picture.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290628</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30300940</id>
	<title>Re:Have you seen a Linux desktop in the wild?</title>
	<author>lemuelbeam</author>
	<datestamp>1259613420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I saw a Gnome desktop on a big plasma monitor in the Car Hire lobby last summer at Pisa airport! That was a double take I can tell you..</htmltext>
<tokenext>I saw a Gnome desktop on a big plasma monitor in the Car Hire lobby last summer at Pisa airport !
That was a double take I can tell you. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I saw a Gnome desktop on a big plasma monitor in the Car Hire lobby last summer at Pisa airport!
That was a double take I can tell you..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291206</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291188</id>
	<title>No, not everything Nokia is Symbian...</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1259672400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A year ago half of global population had mobile phones, now probably around 4.5 billion. Nokia has around 40\% of that. There's <b>no way</b> Symbian smartphones amount to half of their produced handsets (just look around you...and remember that you live in developed world; in reality, S30 and S40 (which are NOT Symbian) dominate)</p><p>BTW, a billionth Nokia phone, sold in 2005, was Nokia 1100. As far from the "smartphone" as it can be...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A year ago half of global population had mobile phones , now probably around 4.5 billion .
Nokia has around 40 \ % of that .
There 's no way Symbian smartphones amount to half of their produced handsets ( just look around you...and remember that you live in developed world ; in reality , S30 and S40 ( which are NOT Symbian ) dominate ) BTW , a billionth Nokia phone , sold in 2005 , was Nokia 1100 .
As far from the " smartphone " as it can be.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A year ago half of global population had mobile phones, now probably around 4.5 billion.
Nokia has around 40\% of that.
There's no way Symbian smartphones amount to half of their produced handsets (just look around you...and remember that you live in developed world; in reality, S30 and S40 (which are NOT Symbian) dominate)BTW, a billionth Nokia phone, sold in 2005, was Nokia 1100.
As far from the "smartphone" as it can be...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290970</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291552</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259674320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Every University that I have been too offers at least some Linux machines. Engineering students are usually even required to learn it, at least a little bit. However, most students tend to not like to use them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Every University that I have been too offers at least some Linux machines .
Engineering students are usually even required to learn it , at least a little bit .
However , most students tend to not like to use them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every University that I have been too offers at least some Linux machines.
Engineering students are usually even required to learn it, at least a little bit.
However, most students tend to not like to use them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290902</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292908</id>
	<title>Re:Liars and statistics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259683320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe like they measure any other statistics. Get a representative sample and measure it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe like they measure any other statistics .
Get a representative sample and measure it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe like they measure any other statistics.
Get a representative sample and measure it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290574</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290754</id>
	<title>Re:Good news for Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259670360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder how many of those people who bought the computer waited for Win7 till they committed?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how many of those people who bought the computer waited for Win7 till they committed ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how many of those people who bought the computer waited for Win7 till they committed?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290532</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291428</id>
	<title>Re:Finally...</title>
	<author>f0dder</author>
	<datestamp>1259673540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hear Ubuntu 9.10 is cannibalizing users from 9.04 ZOMG the horror.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hear Ubuntu 9.10 is cannibalizing users from 9.04 ZOMG the horror .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hear Ubuntu 9.10 is cannibalizing users from 9.04 ZOMG the horror.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290510</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291572</id>
	<title>Re:Good news for Linux</title>
	<author>ewg</author>
	<datestamp>1259674440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who cares? Anything to get them a browser update.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who cares ?
Anything to get them a browser update .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who cares?
Anything to get them a browser update.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290532</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30313676</id>
	<title>I think...</title>
	<author>dudeeh</author>
	<datestamp>1259868060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Linux came up a winner last month, returning to the 1\% share mark for the first time since July.</p><p>Psst, I think we're winning.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Linux came up a winner last month , returning to the 1 \ % share mark for the first time since July.Psst , I think we 're winning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Linux came up a winner last month, returning to the 1\% share mark for the first time since July.Psst, I think we're winning.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291116</id>
	<title>Re:Linux 20\% market share</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1259672040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Linux, therefore has 13.37\% of the "non-MS market".</p></div><p>If that isn't proof Linux is awesome then I don't know what is.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux , therefore has 13.37 \ % of the " non-MS market " .If that is n't proof Linux is awesome then I do n't know what is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux, therefore has 13.37\% of the "non-MS market".If that isn't proof Linux is awesome then I don't know what is.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290660</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290628</id>
	<title>To be expected?</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1259669760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I mean, the headline makes it sound like Microsoft isn't do so well, but the full summary suggests that Apple is the one lowering its Market share to Linux.</p><p>I mean, Considering PC's have the most market share, anyone who doesn't use Windows is essentially using whatever their alternative is (OSX/Linux) to get AWAY from Windows (Especially Vista, that pushed a few people I know towards a Macbook).</p><p>So, was Windows 7 expected to Rip all thsoe Happy Mac customers back to Windows? Or was it majestically expected to make Linux users go insane?</p><p>Windows Users use Windows, and Windows 7 will only grow from the market share of other Windows operating systems. It'll be a long while before Mac and Linux users go back to Windows, and the four horsemen of the Apocalypse will be just as stumped as I will be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean , the headline makes it sound like Microsoft is n't do so well , but the full summary suggests that Apple is the one lowering its Market share to Linux.I mean , Considering PC 's have the most market share , anyone who does n't use Windows is essentially using whatever their alternative is ( OSX/Linux ) to get AWAY from Windows ( Especially Vista , that pushed a few people I know towards a Macbook ) .So , was Windows 7 expected to Rip all thsoe Happy Mac customers back to Windows ?
Or was it majestically expected to make Linux users go insane ? Windows Users use Windows , and Windows 7 will only grow from the market share of other Windows operating systems .
It 'll be a long while before Mac and Linux users go back to Windows , and the four horsemen of the Apocalypse will be just as stumped as I will be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean, the headline makes it sound like Microsoft isn't do so well, but the full summary suggests that Apple is the one lowering its Market share to Linux.I mean, Considering PC's have the most market share, anyone who doesn't use Windows is essentially using whatever their alternative is (OSX/Linux) to get AWAY from Windows (Especially Vista, that pushed a few people I know towards a Macbook).So, was Windows 7 expected to Rip all thsoe Happy Mac customers back to Windows?
Or was it majestically expected to make Linux users go insane?Windows Users use Windows, and Windows 7 will only grow from the market share of other Windows operating systems.
It'll be a long while before Mac and Linux users go back to Windows, and the four horsemen of the Apocalypse will be just as stumped as I will be.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290510</id>
	<title>Finally...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259669280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Year of the Linux Desktop! Seriously, Windows 7 seems to have answered many of the complaints of Vista. "I'm a PC and designed Windows 7 (by complaining loudly)."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Year of the Linux Desktop !
Seriously , Windows 7 seems to have answered many of the complaints of Vista .
" I 'm a PC and designed Windows 7 ( by complaining loudly ) .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Year of the Linux Desktop!
Seriously, Windows 7 seems to have answered many of the complaints of Vista.
"I'm a PC and designed Windows 7 (by complaining loudly).
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292136</id>
	<title>Re:To be expected?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259677740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I mean, the headline makes it sound like Microsoft isn't do so well</p></div><p>New here?</p><p>Yes, the headline should have been "Windows users finally giving up XP for Windows 7"</p><p>It doesn't take a very sensitive spin detector to deal with Slashdot's editors.  Here for example you can watch Slashdot try to <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/08/20/1746241/US-Life-Expectancy-May-Have-Peaked" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">characterize a substantial increase in life expectancy as a "peak"</a> [slashdot.org] in a poorly disguised attempt to promote health care bullshit.</p><p>Slashdot editors tow a certain set of lines, including the western-bad, business-bad, christian-bad lines, augmented with certain basement dwelling geek lines: microsoft-bad and nasa-bad.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean , the headline makes it sound like Microsoft is n't do so wellNew here ? Yes , the headline should have been " Windows users finally giving up XP for Windows 7 " It does n't take a very sensitive spin detector to deal with Slashdot 's editors .
Here for example you can watch Slashdot try to characterize a substantial increase in life expectancy as a " peak " [ slashdot.org ] in a poorly disguised attempt to promote health care bullshit.Slashdot editors tow a certain set of lines , including the western-bad , business-bad , christian-bad lines , augmented with certain basement dwelling geek lines : microsoft-bad and nasa-bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean, the headline makes it sound like Microsoft isn't do so wellNew here?Yes, the headline should have been "Windows users finally giving up XP for Windows 7"It doesn't take a very sensitive spin detector to deal with Slashdot's editors.
Here for example you can watch Slashdot try to characterize a substantial increase in life expectancy as a "peak" [slashdot.org] in a poorly disguised attempt to promote health care bullshit.Slashdot editors tow a certain set of lines, including the western-bad, business-bad, christian-bad lines, augmented with certain basement dwelling geek lines: microsoft-bad and nasa-bad.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290628</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291582</id>
	<title>Re:To be expected?</title>
	<author>avandesande</author>
	<datestamp>1259674500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The headline is more obvious than anything. Why would the opposite happen?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The headline is more obvious than anything .
Why would the opposite happen ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The headline is more obvious than anything.
Why would the opposite happen?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290628</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291054</id>
	<title>Trend is viewable on Steam Hardware Survery</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259671680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>PC gamers are abandoning XP and Vista and moving towards Windows 7. For the first time ever since Valve began publishing their hardware survey back in 2003, Windows XP usage among Steam users has finally dipped below the 50\% mark, and is losing ground relatively fast.

<a href="http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/" title="steampowered.com">Steam Hardware Survey</a> [steampowered.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>PC gamers are abandoning XP and Vista and moving towards Windows 7 .
For the first time ever since Valve began publishing their hardware survey back in 2003 , Windows XP usage among Steam users has finally dipped below the 50 \ % mark , and is losing ground relatively fast .
Steam Hardware Survey [ steampowered.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PC gamers are abandoning XP and Vista and moving towards Windows 7.
For the first time ever since Valve began publishing their hardware survey back in 2003, Windows XP usage among Steam users has finally dipped below the 50\% mark, and is losing ground relatively fast.
Steam Hardware Survey [steampowered.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292300</id>
	<title>Re:Linux 20\% market share</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259678640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Linux, therefore has <b>13.37\%</b> of the "non-MS market".</p></div><p>Did you do that on purpose?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux , therefore has 13.37 \ % of the " non-MS market " .Did you do that on purpose ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux, therefore has 13.37\% of the "non-MS market".Did you do that on purpose?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290660</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30296950</id>
	<title>Winner? 1\%?</title>
	<author>Chicken04GTO</author>
	<datestamp>1259594880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Linux came up a winner last month, returning to the 1\% share mark for the first time since July. Linux's all-time high in Net Applications' rankings was May 2009, when it nearly reached 1.2\%."
<br>
<br>
1\% is a winner?  Wow, that's quite hilarious.  Linux is as the bottom- of the bottom feeder market and yet you think you are the winnar!</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Linux came up a winner last month , returning to the 1 \ % share mark for the first time since July .
Linux 's all-time high in Net Applications ' rankings was May 2009 , when it nearly reached 1.2 \ % .
" 1 \ % is a winner ?
Wow , that 's quite hilarious .
Linux is as the bottom- of the bottom feeder market and yet you think you are the winnar !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Linux came up a winner last month, returning to the 1\% share mark for the first time since July.
Linux's all-time high in Net Applications' rankings was May 2009, when it nearly reached 1.2\%.
"


1\% is a winner?
Wow, that's quite hilarious.
Linux is as the bottom- of the bottom feeder market and yet you think you are the winnar!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291886</id>
	<title>Re:Have you seen a Linux desktop in the wild?</title>
	<author>JDeane</author>
	<datestamp>1259676060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Years ago I used to do networking installs for the local cable company (IE I come to your house install your cable modem and set up the wireless router.... fun stuff I tell you uugghhh lol)</p><p>In all the installs I did, I did set up one Mac system, almost 100\% ran XP (other then a few oddball Win9x installs....)</p><p>Myself if you came to my house you would see Slitaz running on my notebook Windows 7 running on 3 machines and a box running FreeNAS.</p><p>2/3 other boxes that I have not decided what exactly to do with them (they are pretty ancient machines 1Ghz P3's)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Years ago I used to do networking installs for the local cable company ( IE I come to your house install your cable modem and set up the wireless router.... fun stuff I tell you uugghhh lol ) In all the installs I did , I did set up one Mac system , almost 100 \ % ran XP ( other then a few oddball Win9x installs.... ) Myself if you came to my house you would see Slitaz running on my notebook Windows 7 running on 3 machines and a box running FreeNAS.2/3 other boxes that I have not decided what exactly to do with them ( they are pretty ancient machines 1Ghz P3 's )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Years ago I used to do networking installs for the local cable company (IE I come to your house install your cable modem and set up the wireless router.... fun stuff I tell you uugghhh lol)In all the installs I did, I did set up one Mac system, almost 100\% ran XP (other then a few oddball Win9x installs....)Myself if you came to my house you would see Slitaz running on my notebook Windows 7 running on 3 machines and a box running FreeNAS.2/3 other boxes that I have not decided what exactly to do with them (they are pretty ancient machines 1Ghz P3's)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30295494</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 Lard Disk Problems?</title>
	<author>CyberDragon777</author>
	<datestamp>1259581680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lard Disk?</p><p>Stop eating next to the PC!</p><p>No wonder it doesn't work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lard Disk ? Stop eating next to the PC ! No wonder it does n't work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lard Disk?Stop eating next to the PC!No wonder it doesn't work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291088</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>Drenaran</author>
	<datestamp>1259671860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You make a very good point regarding the cheap upgrade cost</p><p>Seeing as students can get Win 7 Home Premium $30, of course you're going to have all sorts of young people make the transition - and those people are going to influence other people.</p><p>Further, the main reason people avoided Vista is that when it first came out, it sincerely sucked in terms of support.  Modern Vista is actually pretty darn good, but it has yet to overcome a lot of the initial bad press.</p><p>Windows 7 is exactly what those people that have been waiting since XP have been looking for - it's stable and has large support (because it is Vista 1.1 - i.e. it has already been through the grinder), it has several minor but easily visible improvements (such as a UI that doesn't look nearly as cheap - several common tasks are easier to access), and it uses less memory (... which tickles people who are into numbers in a way they like while additionally better catering to older desktops).  And most importantly, it isn't Vista.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You make a very good point regarding the cheap upgrade costSeeing as students can get Win 7 Home Premium $ 30 , of course you 're going to have all sorts of young people make the transition - and those people are going to influence other people.Further , the main reason people avoided Vista is that when it first came out , it sincerely sucked in terms of support .
Modern Vista is actually pretty darn good , but it has yet to overcome a lot of the initial bad press.Windows 7 is exactly what those people that have been waiting since XP have been looking for - it 's stable and has large support ( because it is Vista 1.1 - i.e .
it has already been through the grinder ) , it has several minor but easily visible improvements ( such as a UI that does n't look nearly as cheap - several common tasks are easier to access ) , and it uses less memory ( ... which tickles people who are into numbers in a way they like while additionally better catering to older desktops ) .
And most importantly , it is n't Vista .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You make a very good point regarding the cheap upgrade costSeeing as students can get Win 7 Home Premium $30, of course you're going to have all sorts of young people make the transition - and those people are going to influence other people.Further, the main reason people avoided Vista is that when it first came out, it sincerely sucked in terms of support.
Modern Vista is actually pretty darn good, but it has yet to overcome a lot of the initial bad press.Windows 7 is exactly what those people that have been waiting since XP have been looking for - it's stable and has large support (because it is Vista 1.1 - i.e.
it has already been through the grinder), it has several minor but easily visible improvements (such as a UI that doesn't look nearly as cheap - several common tasks are easier to access), and it uses less memory (... which tickles people who are into numbers in a way they like while additionally better catering to older desktops).
And most importantly, it isn't Vista.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292002</id>
	<title>not me</title>
	<author>backdoc</author>
	<datestamp>1259676900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I installed Windows 7 64 bit at work this week.  I'm rolling back to XP.</p><p>Maybe you can contribute my problems to being 64 bit.  But, the apps I need to do my job aren't going to work.  I asked around the office and discovered other developers are running all of their important apps on XP or Vista VM's.</p><p>I tried to install VS 2005 32bit (which I need for existing apps).  The installation warns of "known issues" and recommends an update.  Even it won't install properly and the update can't find the install.  I just don't need those kind of aggravations.  So, count me as one of those "switchers" who upgraded from Windows 7 to XP.</p><p>Wake me up when I can install the apps I need.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I installed Windows 7 64 bit at work this week .
I 'm rolling back to XP.Maybe you can contribute my problems to being 64 bit .
But , the apps I need to do my job are n't going to work .
I asked around the office and discovered other developers are running all of their important apps on XP or Vista VM 's.I tried to install VS 2005 32bit ( which I need for existing apps ) .
The installation warns of " known issues " and recommends an update .
Even it wo n't install properly and the update ca n't find the install .
I just do n't need those kind of aggravations .
So , count me as one of those " switchers " who upgraded from Windows 7 to XP.Wake me up when I can install the apps I need .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I installed Windows 7 64 bit at work this week.
I'm rolling back to XP.Maybe you can contribute my problems to being 64 bit.
But, the apps I need to do my job aren't going to work.
I asked around the office and discovered other developers are running all of their important apps on XP or Vista VM's.I tried to install VS 2005 32bit (which I need for existing apps).
The installation warns of "known issues" and recommends an update.
Even it won't install properly and the update can't find the install.
I just don't need those kind of aggravations.
So, count me as one of those "switchers" who upgraded from Windows 7 to XP.Wake me up when I can install the apps I need.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30293134</id>
	<title>Re:Good news for Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259685420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wouldn't really consider it being given away.  Technet, you get 10 usable activations for $250/year (the activations are permanent/perpetual, so a licensed machine stays licensed if you drop your sub.)</p><p>MSDN is even more expensive, but there is a lot that comes with it, and for a business that is working with MS products, it is something worth getting the core dev teams in most cases so they have access to any MS products for dev/testing/QA needs.</p><p>TANSTAAFL -- the main reason why paid Technet and MSDN subscribers received early access is to give companies some lead time on staging test labs, finding bugs with the OS in their day to day use, then figuring the best way to roll out the OS before it goes live to the public.  For a business still running XP, there is also the added overhead of having a KMS server fabric in place.  There are also other features that Windows 7 has which need to be staged to production, such as NAC, BitLocker To Go, AppLocker, more profile choices in GPOs, and so on.</p><p>If I were to point out a bargain for Windows licenses, I'd probably say that students colleges with MSDNAA might have the best deal -- $0 for a couple copies.  There also is DreamSpark.  Of course, some larger colleges have even better deals for lots of low priced (and legit) Windows 7 copies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't really consider it being given away .
Technet , you get 10 usable activations for $ 250/year ( the activations are permanent/perpetual , so a licensed machine stays licensed if you drop your sub .
) MSDN is even more expensive , but there is a lot that comes with it , and for a business that is working with MS products , it is something worth getting the core dev teams in most cases so they have access to any MS products for dev/testing/QA needs.TANSTAAFL -- the main reason why paid Technet and MSDN subscribers received early access is to give companies some lead time on staging test labs , finding bugs with the OS in their day to day use , then figuring the best way to roll out the OS before it goes live to the public .
For a business still running XP , there is also the added overhead of having a KMS server fabric in place .
There are also other features that Windows 7 has which need to be staged to production , such as NAC , BitLocker To Go , AppLocker , more profile choices in GPOs , and so on.If I were to point out a bargain for Windows licenses , I 'd probably say that students colleges with MSDNAA might have the best deal -- $ 0 for a couple copies .
There also is DreamSpark .
Of course , some larger colleges have even better deals for lots of low priced ( and legit ) Windows 7 copies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't really consider it being given away.
Technet, you get 10 usable activations for $250/year (the activations are permanent/perpetual, so a licensed machine stays licensed if you drop your sub.
)MSDN is even more expensive, but there is a lot that comes with it, and for a business that is working with MS products, it is something worth getting the core dev teams in most cases so they have access to any MS products for dev/testing/QA needs.TANSTAAFL -- the main reason why paid Technet and MSDN subscribers received early access is to give companies some lead time on staging test labs, finding bugs with the OS in their day to day use, then figuring the best way to roll out the OS before it goes live to the public.
For a business still running XP, there is also the added overhead of having a KMS server fabric in place.
There are also other features that Windows 7 has which need to be staged to production, such as NAC, BitLocker To Go, AppLocker, more profile choices in GPOs, and so on.If I were to point out a bargain for Windows licenses, I'd probably say that students colleges with MSDNAA might have the best deal -- $0 for a couple copies.
There also is DreamSpark.
Of course, some larger colleges have even better deals for lots of low priced (and legit) Windows 7 copies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291006</id>
	<title>Re:Good news for Linux</title>
	<author>Enderandrew</author>
	<datestamp>1259671440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to mention copies of Windows 7 being given away to TechNet people left and right these days, college students, Windows 7 launch party copies, and the $10 copies that Best Buy employees got.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention copies of Windows 7 being given away to TechNet people left and right these days , college students , Windows 7 launch party copies , and the $ 10 copies that Best Buy employees got .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention copies of Windows 7 being given away to TechNet people left and right these days, college students, Windows 7 launch party copies, and the $10 copies that Best Buy employees got.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30317412</id>
	<title>1\%ers!!!!</title>
	<author>johnkzin</author>
	<datestamp>1259838780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We're like... the Hells Angels, or the Warlocks, or the Mongols!  1\%er's baby!!!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p><p>Someone should put a 1\%er's biker club logo on Tux<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're like... the Hells Angels , or the Warlocks , or the Mongols !
1 \ % er 's baby ! ! !
; - ) Someone should put a 1 \ % er 's biker club logo on Tux : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We're like... the Hells Angels, or the Warlocks, or the Mongols!
1\%er's baby!!!
;-)Someone should put a 1\%er's biker club logo on Tux :-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30368660</id>
	<title>Re:Linux 20\% market share</title>
	<author>ArsonSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1260302160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Leet!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Leet !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Leet!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30294292</id>
	<title>Please release virus to screw with these stats!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259696220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>
I sure wish someone would set up a virus or trojan to cause people's browsers to report a phony OS.

Think of all the panty knotting in Campbell and Redmond when they both lost 5\% marketshare to AmigaOS, or Lynx on VMS, CP/M, or a PDP8...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I sure wish someone would set up a virus or trojan to cause people 's browsers to report a phony OS .
Think of all the panty knotting in Campbell and Redmond when they both lost 5 \ % marketshare to AmigaOS , or Lynx on VMS , CP/M , or a PDP8.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I sure wish someone would set up a virus or trojan to cause people's browsers to report a phony OS.
Think of all the panty knotting in Campbell and Redmond when they both lost 5\% marketshare to AmigaOS, or Lynx on VMS, CP/M, or a PDP8...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30294300</id>
	<title>Re:Linux is more succesful than the iPhone</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1259696280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>According to these numbers there are three times more Linux users than iPhone users. The iPhone is generally considered a huge success. Why is Linux percieved so differently?</i> </p><p>The iPhone has a distinctive corporate identity. The product is instantly recognizable even if you don't own one. No single Linux distribution has a strong - stable - hold on a deeply fragmented market.</p><p>The iPhone is a solid commercial success. Its future isn't dependent on the charity of some South American billionaire.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to these numbers there are three times more Linux users than iPhone users .
The iPhone is generally considered a huge success .
Why is Linux percieved so differently ?
The iPhone has a distinctive corporate identity .
The product is instantly recognizable even if you do n't own one .
No single Linux distribution has a strong - stable - hold on a deeply fragmented market.The iPhone is a solid commercial success .
Its future is n't dependent on the charity of some South American billionaire .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to these numbers there are three times more Linux users than iPhone users.
The iPhone is generally considered a huge success.
Why is Linux percieved so differently?
The iPhone has a distinctive corporate identity.
The product is instantly recognizable even if you don't own one.
No single Linux distribution has a strong - stable - hold on a deeply fragmented market.The iPhone is a solid commercial success.
Its future isn't dependent on the charity of some South American billionaire.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290868</id>
	<title>Re:Liars and statistics</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1259670840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sadly - for balance - I can't point at a machine that came with Linux pre installed and had it replaced by Windows.</p></div><p>There are lots of such examples. In recent years they were usually cheap laptops bought in not-quite-mature markets (think "post Soviet block", of that I'm certain)</p><p>Those machines often have some nonfunctional copy of Linux (doesn't even boot to X for example, doesn't have drivers for the hardware). Sometimes they are blank...but with Knoppix live-DVD included, so they arguably are also Linux machines... Well, one major (<b>really</b> major) PC manufacturer usually adds FreeDOS, so at least those machines are excluded.</p><p>And yes, virtually all of them get formatted and pirated Windows gets installed.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sadly - for balance - I ca n't point at a machine that came with Linux pre installed and had it replaced by Windows.There are lots of such examples .
In recent years they were usually cheap laptops bought in not-quite-mature markets ( think " post Soviet block " , of that I 'm certain ) Those machines often have some nonfunctional copy of Linux ( does n't even boot to X for example , does n't have drivers for the hardware ) .
Sometimes they are blank...but with Knoppix live-DVD included , so they arguably are also Linux machines... Well , one major ( really major ) PC manufacturer usually adds FreeDOS , so at least those machines are excluded.And yes , virtually all of them get formatted and pirated Windows gets installed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sadly - for balance - I can't point at a machine that came with Linux pre installed and had it replaced by Windows.There are lots of such examples.
In recent years they were usually cheap laptops bought in not-quite-mature markets (think "post Soviet block", of that I'm certain)Those machines often have some nonfunctional copy of Linux (doesn't even boot to X for example, doesn't have drivers for the hardware).
Sometimes they are blank...but with Knoppix live-DVD included, so they arguably are also Linux machines... Well, one major (really major) PC manufacturer usually adds FreeDOS, so at least those machines are excluded.And yes, virtually all of them get formatted and pirated Windows gets installed.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30322638</id>
	<title>Re:Yet another story stating the obvious</title>
	<author>hairyfeet</author>
	<datestamp>1259934120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually you <a href="http://www.prweb.com/releases/PCmover/XPtoW7upgrade/prweb2721914.htm" title="prweb.com">CAN</a> [prweb.com] upgrade WinXP to Windows 7, it just isn't free since you need a third party tool. I haven't had a chance to try it yet but the reviews I have seen say that it works and works well. It is just as usual MSFT doesn't have decent system tools and requires third party tools to get things done.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually you CAN [ prweb.com ] upgrade WinXP to Windows 7 , it just is n't free since you need a third party tool .
I have n't had a chance to try it yet but the reviews I have seen say that it works and works well .
It is just as usual MSFT does n't have decent system tools and requires third party tools to get things done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually you CAN [prweb.com] upgrade WinXP to Windows 7, it just isn't free since you need a third party tool.
I haven't had a chance to try it yet but the reviews I have seen say that it works and works well.
It is just as usual MSFT doesn't have decent system tools and requires third party tools to get things done.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291858</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>jim\_v2000</author>
	<datestamp>1259675880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt;As a matter of interest, can you tell me what you have really gained from moving from XP to Win 7
<br> <br>
You could really ask that question about pretty much any desktop OS over the last 10 years and the answer would still be the same:  just some glitter.  It's all the same...you click some icons on a desktop to open stuff, you can drag things around on the desktop and put them in folders, you can organize things in menus, etc etc etc.  Theres really NOT THAT MUCH different between OS X, Windows, Gnome, or KDE.</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; As a matter of interest , can you tell me what you have really gained from moving from XP to Win 7 You could really ask that question about pretty much any desktop OS over the last 10 years and the answer would still be the same : just some glitter .
It 's all the same...you click some icons on a desktop to open stuff , you can drag things around on the desktop and put them in folders , you can organize things in menus , etc etc etc .
Theres really NOT THAT MUCH different between OS X , Windows , Gnome , or KDE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;As a matter of interest, can you tell me what you have really gained from moving from XP to Win 7
 
You could really ask that question about pretty much any desktop OS over the last 10 years and the answer would still be the same:  just some glitter.
It's all the same...you click some icons on a desktop to open stuff, you can drag things around on the desktop and put them in folders, you can organize things in menus, etc etc etc.
Theres really NOT THAT MUCH different between OS X, Windows, Gnome, or KDE.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30294564</id>
	<title>Re:Trend is viewable on Steam Hardware Survery</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259612760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Gee now that's a wonder. XP doesn't support anything over DX9, Vista supported DX10 but was a pile of crap. You get an upgrade for DX10 and DX11 while skipping vista? I'm *so* not surprised that gamers jump on the Win7 bandwagon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gee now that 's a wonder .
XP does n't support anything over DX9 , Vista supported DX10 but was a pile of crap .
You get an upgrade for DX10 and DX11 while skipping vista ?
I 'm * so * not surprised that gamers jump on the Win7 bandwagon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gee now that's a wonder.
XP doesn't support anything over DX9, Vista supported DX10 but was a pile of crap.
You get an upgrade for DX10 and DX11 while skipping vista?
I'm *so* not surprised that gamers jump on the Win7 bandwagon.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290638</id>
	<title>so long as vista dies....</title>
	<author>Blue Shifted</author>
	<datestamp>1259669820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>hey, windows 7 doesn't make me want to throw my laptop out the window (pun intended), nor does it bring up pure hatred and rage from within me like vista did.  Big Plus There.</p><p>that said, application launch time ARE slower, by a few seconds, compared to XP.  especially when opening MS Word or Excel, i'd say more than a few seconds.....  NOT a deal breaker, though.</p><p>but one thing that gets me about the reviews of windows 7 is the shutdown time.  while MY netbook does shutdown quickly, for giggles timed the shutdown times of the atom netbooks at the big box stores.  hang on, let me find the times...  here we go:  33, 18, 28, 20, 39, and 60 seconds.  sure, those are display units subjected to lot's of kids opening ie to check their myspace (only to think the netbooks don't work when the page doesn't come up, due to secured wifi...)  but still, using windows 7 certainly doesn't guarantee your machine won't end up with long shutdown times...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>hey , windows 7 does n't make me want to throw my laptop out the window ( pun intended ) , nor does it bring up pure hatred and rage from within me like vista did .
Big Plus There.that said , application launch time ARE slower , by a few seconds , compared to XP .
especially when opening MS Word or Excel , i 'd say more than a few seconds..... NOT a deal breaker , though.but one thing that gets me about the reviews of windows 7 is the shutdown time .
while MY netbook does shutdown quickly , for giggles timed the shutdown times of the atom netbooks at the big box stores .
hang on , let me find the times... here we go : 33 , 18 , 28 , 20 , 39 , and 60 seconds .
sure , those are display units subjected to lot 's of kids opening ie to check their myspace ( only to think the netbooks do n't work when the page does n't come up , due to secured wifi... ) but still , using windows 7 certainly does n't guarantee your machine wo n't end up with long shutdown times.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hey, windows 7 doesn't make me want to throw my laptop out the window (pun intended), nor does it bring up pure hatred and rage from within me like vista did.
Big Plus There.that said, application launch time ARE slower, by a few seconds, compared to XP.
especially when opening MS Word or Excel, i'd say more than a few seconds.....  NOT a deal breaker, though.but one thing that gets me about the reviews of windows 7 is the shutdown time.
while MY netbook does shutdown quickly, for giggles timed the shutdown times of the atom netbooks at the big box stores.
hang on, let me find the times...  here we go:  33, 18, 28, 20, 39, and 60 seconds.
sure, those are display units subjected to lot's of kids opening ie to check their myspace (only to think the netbooks don't work when the page doesn't come up, due to secured wifi...)  but still, using windows 7 certainly doesn't guarantee your machine won't end up with long shutdown times...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291500</id>
	<title>Likely the recession</title>
	<author>caywen</author>
	<datestamp>1259673960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the recession plays a major factor in Apple's slight drop. Apple's smart in holding the line, however, since they don't want a large line of low margin products that will have heavy support costs. After the recession fades, they want to look consistent with their pricing.</p><p>Also, I wonder if they counted virtual machines in the survey?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the recession plays a major factor in Apple 's slight drop .
Apple 's smart in holding the line , however , since they do n't want a large line of low margin products that will have heavy support costs .
After the recession fades , they want to look consistent with their pricing.Also , I wonder if they counted virtual machines in the survey ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the recession plays a major factor in Apple's slight drop.
Apple's smart in holding the line, however, since they don't want a large line of low margin products that will have heavy support costs.
After the recession fades, they want to look consistent with their pricing.Also, I wonder if they counted virtual machines in the survey?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30294358</id>
	<title>Re:Have you seen a Linux desktop in the wild?</title>
	<author>kainewynd2</author>
	<datestamp>1259696880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've seen one guy since 2004... he got sick of pirating XP, so he jumped to Ubuntu.</p><p>Besides that, I knew one guy about six years ago who ran Linux extensively in his house for desktop use (he ran Tao Linux before having to back out due to time constraints).  Of course, he also had me rebuild an OS 9 box so his kids could play some educational games so read what you want there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've seen one guy since 2004... he got sick of pirating XP , so he jumped to Ubuntu.Besides that , I knew one guy about six years ago who ran Linux extensively in his house for desktop use ( he ran Tao Linux before having to back out due to time constraints ) .
Of course , he also had me rebuild an OS 9 box so his kids could play some educational games so read what you want there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've seen one guy since 2004... he got sick of pirating XP, so he jumped to Ubuntu.Besides that, I knew one guy about six years ago who ran Linux extensively in his house for desktop use (he ran Tao Linux before having to back out due to time constraints).
Of course, he also had me rebuild an OS 9 box so his kids could play some educational games so read what you want there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291386</id>
	<title>Re:Good news for Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259673360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The vast majority of Windows sales have always been on new machines. The reason is obvious: normal people have neither the money, time nor inclination to install a new OS on old hardware. Its primarily denizens of this type of site that enjoy the masturbatory thrills of continually installing new software. This is an example an unexpected consequence of automation:  too many smart people with not enough work to do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The vast majority of Windows sales have always been on new machines .
The reason is obvious : normal people have neither the money , time nor inclination to install a new OS on old hardware .
Its primarily denizens of this type of site that enjoy the masturbatory thrills of continually installing new software .
This is an example an unexpected consequence of automation : too many smart people with not enough work to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The vast majority of Windows sales have always been on new machines.
The reason is obvious: normal people have neither the money, time nor inclination to install a new OS on old hardware.
Its primarily denizens of this type of site that enjoy the masturbatory thrills of continually installing new software.
This is an example an unexpected consequence of automation:  too many smart people with not enough work to do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30307020</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 got me twice...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259597580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The disc that ships with computers is a recovery disc<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... which means re-installing just re-loads all the same bloat-ware back onto the system again. Also, it's Home edition vs. Pro. Granted you can pay less for the "upgrade" path<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but I prefer to have a Full Retail copy of Pro that I can install in one-shot. Plus my copy is transferable whereas OEM is tied to the laptop.</p><p>Perhaps these "reasons" aren't good enough for you. To each their own.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The disc that ships with computers is a recovery disc ... which means re-installing just re-loads all the same bloat-ware back onto the system again .
Also , it 's Home edition vs. Pro. Granted you can pay less for the " upgrade " path ... but I prefer to have a Full Retail copy of Pro that I can install in one-shot .
Plus my copy is transferable whereas OEM is tied to the laptop.Perhaps these " reasons " are n't good enough for you .
To each their own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The disc that ships with computers is a recovery disc ... which means re-installing just re-loads all the same bloat-ware back onto the system again.
Also, it's Home edition vs. Pro. Granted you can pay less for the "upgrade" path ... but I prefer to have a Full Retail copy of Pro that I can install in one-shot.
Plus my copy is transferable whereas OEM is tied to the laptop.Perhaps these "reasons" aren't good enough for you.
To each their own.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291210</id>
	<title>Re:Well duh!</title>
	<author>heffrey</author>
	<datestamp>1259672460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Vista has around 20\% of market so your statement is clearly wrong in quantative terms at least. XP users are more likely to upgrade because their machines are old. Not much point upgrading from Vista to 7.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vista has around 20 \ % of market so your statement is clearly wrong in quantative terms at least .
XP users are more likely to upgrade because their machines are old .
Not much point upgrading from Vista to 7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vista has around 20\% of market so your statement is clearly wrong in quantative terms at least.
XP users are more likely to upgrade because their machines are old.
Not much point upgrading from Vista to 7.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290884</id>
	<title>Re:To be expected?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259670900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes yes, but when they enable the copy-protection to kill all those pirated copies, then the real numbers will be more interesting, Besides, that study doesn't show bought copies, just running ones on the internet.</p><p>Anyway, I'm glad, I was getting tired of answering stupid questions to lazy linux users (the *buntu kind)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes yes , but when they enable the copy-protection to kill all those pirated copies , then the real numbers will be more interesting , Besides , that study does n't show bought copies , just running ones on the internet.Anyway , I 'm glad , I was getting tired of answering stupid questions to lazy linux users ( the * buntu kind )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes yes, but when they enable the copy-protection to kill all those pirated copies, then the real numbers will be more interesting, Besides, that study doesn't show bought copies, just running ones on the internet.Anyway, I'm glad, I was getting tired of answering stupid questions to lazy linux users (the *buntu kind)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30294878</id>
	<title>Re:Finally...</title>
	<author>Anne Thwacks</author>
	<datestamp>1259573700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>To be really accurate, you need a bad car analogy: With the govt "scrappage" scheme. I have upgraded
my 1999 Nissan Micra to a 2009 Nissan Micra. (In which My laptops both run Ubuntu 9.10)<p>
Had it not been for the scrappage scheme, I would have bought a 2006 X-Trail instead, and
run NetBSD on the Old laptop (Thinkpad T21) in it.<br>
I have not had to resort to cannibalism, but if the govt's corruption policies dont improve,
I shall be adocating an "eat an MP for breakfast" policy. (with Roast duck as a side salad
for Con MPs.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be really accurate , you need a bad car analogy : With the govt " scrappage " scheme .
I have upgraded my 1999 Nissan Micra to a 2009 Nissan Micra .
( In which My laptops both run Ubuntu 9.10 ) Had it not been for the scrappage scheme , I would have bought a 2006 X-Trail instead , and run NetBSD on the Old laptop ( Thinkpad T21 ) in it .
I have not had to resort to cannibalism , but if the govt 's corruption policies dont improve , I shall be adocating an " eat an MP for breakfast " policy .
( with Roast duck as a side salad for Con MPs .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be really accurate, you need a bad car analogy: With the govt "scrappage" scheme.
I have upgraded
my 1999 Nissan Micra to a 2009 Nissan Micra.
(In which My laptops both run Ubuntu 9.10)
Had it not been for the scrappage scheme, I would have bought a 2006 X-Trail instead, and
run NetBSD on the Old laptop (Thinkpad T21) in it.
I have not had to resort to cannibalism, but if the govt's corruption policies dont improve,
I shall be adocating an "eat an MP for breakfast" policy.
(with Roast duck as a side salad
for Con MPs.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291806</id>
	<title>Re:so long as vista dies....</title>
	<author>pla</author>
	<datestamp>1259675580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>In the case of Excel, I can literally double-click the icon, count "one, two, three," and I have a blank spreadsheet.</i> <br>
<br>
Just on a whim, I just tried the same experiment on my current machine (older), running Office 97, <b>without</b> the Office Startup
running (if you haven't explicitly disabled that, consider your numbers meaningless - It amounts to opening a new window of a running
program).<br>
<br>
&lt;Click&gt;... And I started to count "One, two, three...":<br>
<br>
O(and half of an "n")... &lt;Excel pops up&gt;.<br>
<br>
Yeah, thanks.  I'll keep XP and my ancient but fully functional version of Office 97 until Billy-G starts offering BJs from Megan Fox in
exchange for downgrading to the latest piece of crap.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the case of Excel , I can literally double-click the icon , count " one , two , three , " and I have a blank spreadsheet .
Just on a whim , I just tried the same experiment on my current machine ( older ) , running Office 97 , without the Office Startup running ( if you have n't explicitly disabled that , consider your numbers meaningless - It amounts to opening a new window of a running program ) .
... And I started to count " One , two , three... " : O ( and half of an " n " ) ... . Yeah , thanks .
I 'll keep XP and my ancient but fully functional version of Office 97 until Billy-G starts offering BJs from Megan Fox in exchange for downgrading to the latest piece of crap .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the case of Excel, I can literally double-click the icon, count "one, two, three," and I have a blank spreadsheet.
Just on a whim, I just tried the same experiment on my current machine (older), running Office 97, without the Office Startup
running (if you haven't explicitly disabled that, consider your numbers meaningless - It amounts to opening a new window of a running
program).
... And I started to count "One, two, three...":

O(and half of an "n")... .

Yeah, thanks.
I'll keep XP and my ancient but fully functional version of Office 97 until Billy-G starts offering BJs from Megan Fox in
exchange for downgrading to the latest piece of crap.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290970</id>
	<title>Nokia has manufactured 1 billion symbian-devices</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259671320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Assuming whole 1.36\% consists of just and only Symbian devices, that puts Windows at 68 billion copies. Looks like very reliable statistics... not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Assuming whole 1.36 \ % consists of just and only Symbian devices , that puts Windows at 68 billion copies .
Looks like very reliable statistics... not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Assuming whole 1.36\% consists of just and only Symbian devices, that puts Windows at 68 billion copies.
Looks like very reliable statistics... not.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290792</id>
	<title>Correction</title>
	<author>mr\_matticus</author>
	<datestamp>1259670600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Windows Mobile's 0.04\% market share is <em>not</em> included in the 92.52\% of Windows machines reported, but rather, part of "other":</p><p><a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8" title="hitslink.com">http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8</a> [hitslink.com]</p><p>Therefore, the non-MS market has just been downsized to 7.44\% and Linux's share of that is accordingly bumped up to 13.44\%.</p><p>However, the iPod touch (0.07\%) is also not counted in the iPhone's 0.36\% market share, so Apple's relative share of that same market goes up to 74.60\%.</p><p>Another interesting tidbit from these (questionably reliable) numbers:  Blackberry and Android are roughly tied in market share based on web traffic, both registering at 0.03\%.  This is probably a testament to the superior browser on Android rather than actual market share by units sold (and the same with the iPhone).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows Mobile 's 0.04 \ % market share is not included in the 92.52 \ % of Windows machines reported , but rather , part of " other " : http : //marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx ? qprid = 8 [ hitslink.com ] Therefore , the non-MS market has just been downsized to 7.44 \ % and Linux 's share of that is accordingly bumped up to 13.44 \ % .However , the iPod touch ( 0.07 \ % ) is also not counted in the iPhone 's 0.36 \ % market share , so Apple 's relative share of that same market goes up to 74.60 \ % .Another interesting tidbit from these ( questionably reliable ) numbers : Blackberry and Android are roughly tied in market share based on web traffic , both registering at 0.03 \ % .
This is probably a testament to the superior browser on Android rather than actual market share by units sold ( and the same with the iPhone ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows Mobile's 0.04\% market share is not included in the 92.52\% of Windows machines reported, but rather, part of "other":http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 [hitslink.com]Therefore, the non-MS market has just been downsized to 7.44\% and Linux's share of that is accordingly bumped up to 13.44\%.However, the iPod touch (0.07\%) is also not counted in the iPhone's 0.36\% market share, so Apple's relative share of that same market goes up to 74.60\%.Another interesting tidbit from these (questionably reliable) numbers:  Blackberry and Android are roughly tied in market share based on web traffic, both registering at 0.03\%.
This is probably a testament to the superior browser on Android rather than actual market share by units sold (and the same with the iPhone).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290924</id>
	<title>Windows XP is dead</title>
	<author>mqduck</author>
	<datestamp>1259671080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Net Applications confirms it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Net Applications confirms it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Net Applications confirms it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290722</id>
	<title>Windows 7 got me twice...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259670240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just ordered a new laptop. Naturally it will ship with some variation of Windows 7 pre-installed. Personally I have a loathing hatred for crapware and OEM branded operating systems. So I bought a full retail copy of Windows 7 to go with my new laptop. (First task<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... format and install my clean retail copy.) Unfortunately I couldn't buy the same laptop with FreeDOS or something like that. And even more unfortunate, even if I could, it would actually cost more than having Windows already on it. (All that crapware keeps the costs down.)</p><p>So my 1 purchase will count as 2 copies of Windows 7 being sold.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just ordered a new laptop .
Naturally it will ship with some variation of Windows 7 pre-installed .
Personally I have a loathing hatred for crapware and OEM branded operating systems .
So I bought a full retail copy of Windows 7 to go with my new laptop .
( First task ... format and install my clean retail copy .
) Unfortunately I could n't buy the same laptop with FreeDOS or something like that .
And even more unfortunate , even if I could , it would actually cost more than having Windows already on it .
( All that crapware keeps the costs down .
) So my 1 purchase will count as 2 copies of Windows 7 being sold .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just ordered a new laptop.
Naturally it will ship with some variation of Windows 7 pre-installed.
Personally I have a loathing hatred for crapware and OEM branded operating systems.
So I bought a full retail copy of Windows 7 to go with my new laptop.
(First task ... format and install my clean retail copy.
) Unfortunately I couldn't buy the same laptop with FreeDOS or something like that.
And even more unfortunate, even if I could, it would actually cost more than having Windows already on it.
(All that crapware keeps the costs down.
)So my 1 purchase will count as 2 copies of Windows 7 being sold.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292060</id>
	<title>Re:Linux is more succesful than the iPhone</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1259677260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>According to these numbers there are three times more Linux users than iPhone users. The iPhone is generally considered a huge success. Why is Linux percieved so differently?</p></div></blockquote><p>

Because not a lot of people are making money off of Linux.<br> <br>

Well until we start looking at embedded Linux, server Linux, Linux based mobile phone OS's. Chances are most people own a Linux device and don't even know it, be it a DSL router, Cable/TV tuner or a myriad of other embedded devices.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>According to these numbers there are three times more Linux users than iPhone users .
The iPhone is generally considered a huge success .
Why is Linux percieved so differently ?
Because not a lot of people are making money off of Linux .
Well until we start looking at embedded Linux , server Linux , Linux based mobile phone OS 's .
Chances are most people own a Linux device and do n't even know it , be it a DSL router , Cable/TV tuner or a myriad of other embedded devices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to these numbers there are three times more Linux users than iPhone users.
The iPhone is generally considered a huge success.
Why is Linux percieved so differently?
Because not a lot of people are making money off of Linux.
Well until we start looking at embedded Linux, server Linux, Linux based mobile phone OS's.
Chances are most people own a Linux device and don't even know it, be it a DSL router, Cable/TV tuner or a myriad of other embedded devices.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291782</id>
	<title>Re:Linux is more succesful than the iPhone</title>
	<author>Benzido</author>
	<datestamp>1259675520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>doy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>doy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>doy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291166</id>
	<title>Re:Good news for Linux</title>
	<author>fido\_dogstoyevsky</author>
	<datestamp>1259672280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>I wonder how many of those are people who bought Windows 7 and how many are just people who bought a computer that came with Windows 7?</i>
<br> <br>
The notebook I'm using now is a couple of years old, came with vista and is happily running under Suse. A month ago I bought a netbook with windows 7* and it's now running under Suse; a week and a bit ago** I bought a notebook with vista (giving me a good discount) and I'm installing Fedora on it as I write this.
<br> <br>
*Use of lower case not accidental
<br> <br>
**Conversation in the shop went something like<blockquote><div><p>bloke behind counter: "It has vista now but comes with a free windows 7 upgrade voucher."
<br>
me: "Thanks, but I'll be using Linux so I won't need it."
<br>
bbc: "OK, but it only has the demo version of [microsoft] office, you'll really need to buy the full version..."
<br>
me: "But microsoft office doesn't work with Linux."
<br>
bbc: "Uhhh - OK, but don't forget to go to the A### web page to get your windows 7 upgrade..."</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how many of those are people who bought Windows 7 and how many are just people who bought a computer that came with Windows 7 ?
The notebook I 'm using now is a couple of years old , came with vista and is happily running under Suse .
A month ago I bought a netbook with windows 7 * and it 's now running under Suse ; a week and a bit ago * * I bought a notebook with vista ( giving me a good discount ) and I 'm installing Fedora on it as I write this .
* Use of lower case not accidental * * Conversation in the shop went something likebloke behind counter : " It has vista now but comes with a free windows 7 upgrade voucher .
" me : " Thanks , but I 'll be using Linux so I wo n't need it .
" bbc : " OK , but it only has the demo version of [ microsoft ] office , you 'll really need to buy the full version... " me : " But microsoft office does n't work with Linux .
" bbc : " Uhhh - OK , but do n't forget to go to the A # # # web page to get your windows 7 upgrade... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how many of those are people who bought Windows 7 and how many are just people who bought a computer that came with Windows 7?
The notebook I'm using now is a couple of years old, came with vista and is happily running under Suse.
A month ago I bought a netbook with windows 7* and it's now running under Suse; a week and a bit ago** I bought a notebook with vista (giving me a good discount) and I'm installing Fedora on it as I write this.
*Use of lower case not accidental
 
**Conversation in the shop went something likebloke behind counter: "It has vista now but comes with a free windows 7 upgrade voucher.
"

me: "Thanks, but I'll be using Linux so I won't need it.
"

bbc: "OK, but it only has the demo version of [microsoft] office, you'll really need to buy the full version..."

me: "But microsoft office doesn't work with Linux.
"

bbc: "Uhhh - OK, but don't forget to go to the A### web page to get your windows 7 upgrade..."
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292598</id>
	<title>Re:Good news for Linux</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1259680800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I wonder how many of those are people who bought Windows 7 and how many are just people who bought a computer that came with Windows 7?</i> </p><p>The Win 7 Beta/RC broke 1\% in September.</p><p>Windows 7 was released on October 22nd. On November 30 it had a 4\% share in monthly tracking and was averaging 5\% in daily tracking.</p><p>You <b>could</b> argue that a 5\% <b>global</b> desktop share was achieved in <b>one month</b> of retail system sales.</p><p>But to do that, you have to chop off the low end.</p><p> The Win 7 netbook is only beginning to make its presence felt in places like Walmart.</p><p>To my eyes, these numbers simply don't make sense unless you assume very strong pre-sales of Windows 7.</p><p>The upgrade coupon and the retail box.</p><p>The upgrade implies confidence in a DIY Windows system install or upgrade. It's an unmistakable vote for Windows.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how many of those are people who bought Windows 7 and how many are just people who bought a computer that came with Windows 7 ?
The Win 7 Beta/RC broke 1 \ % in September.Windows 7 was released on October 22nd .
On November 30 it had a 4 \ % share in monthly tracking and was averaging 5 \ % in daily tracking.You could argue that a 5 \ % global desktop share was achieved in one month of retail system sales.But to do that , you have to chop off the low end .
The Win 7 netbook is only beginning to make its presence felt in places like Walmart.To my eyes , these numbers simply do n't make sense unless you assume very strong pre-sales of Windows 7.The upgrade coupon and the retail box.The upgrade implies confidence in a DIY Windows system install or upgrade .
It 's an unmistakable vote for Windows .
     </tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how many of those are people who bought Windows 7 and how many are just people who bought a computer that came with Windows 7?
The Win 7 Beta/RC broke 1\% in September.Windows 7 was released on October 22nd.
On November 30 it had a 4\% share in monthly tracking and was averaging 5\% in daily tracking.You could argue that a 5\% global desktop share was achieved in one month of retail system sales.But to do that, you have to chop off the low end.
The Win 7 netbook is only beginning to make its presence felt in places like Walmart.To my eyes, these numbers simply don't make sense unless you assume very strong pre-sales of Windows 7.The upgrade coupon and the retail box.The upgrade implies confidence in a DIY Windows system install or upgrade.
It's an unmistakable vote for Windows.
     </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30322274</id>
	<title>Mirth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259926800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Linux came up a winner last month, returning to the 1\% share mark"</p><p>Mod OP comic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Linux came up a winner last month , returning to the 1 \ % share mark " Mod OP comic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Linux came up a winner last month, returning to the 1\% share mark"Mod OP comic.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30323044</id>
	<title>This is why I love and hate slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259938080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Microsoft's Windows ran to stay in place last month as Window 7's market share gains made up for the largest-ever declines in Windows XP and Vista, data released today by Web metrics firm Net Applications showed. By these numbers, Windows 7's gains were primarily at the expense of Windows XP.</p></div><p>Let me be clear and state that I'm not a fan of MS.  That said, really?  This is how we phrase things these days?  They own a metric crap ton of the market share and it's the next version of their OS..OF COURSE most of the purchases are by users of the previous version.  I'm pretty sure that Snow Leopard most often replaced Leopard and not something else as well and they have a MUCH smaller market share but we didn't see a slashdot posting stating that "Apple ran to stay in place".  It's almost like we try to top ourselves here on every story.  I almost picture the moderators in some sort of IRC session going "no the language isn't anti-MS enough"...."but it's an article on clean water technology in the 3rd world"..."yeah but is there any way we can write it so it read MS not involved in clean water technology project?".  Come on....do better.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft 's Windows ran to stay in place last month as Window 7 's market share gains made up for the largest-ever declines in Windows XP and Vista , data released today by Web metrics firm Net Applications showed .
By these numbers , Windows 7 's gains were primarily at the expense of Windows XP.Let me be clear and state that I 'm not a fan of MS. That said , really ?
This is how we phrase things these days ?
They own a metric crap ton of the market share and it 's the next version of their OS..OF COURSE most of the purchases are by users of the previous version .
I 'm pretty sure that Snow Leopard most often replaced Leopard and not something else as well and they have a MUCH smaller market share but we did n't see a slashdot posting stating that " Apple ran to stay in place " .
It 's almost like we try to top ourselves here on every story .
I almost picture the moderators in some sort of IRC session going " no the language is n't anti-MS enough " .... " but it 's an article on clean water technology in the 3rd world " ... " yeah but is there any way we can write it so it read MS not involved in clean water technology project ? " .
Come on....do better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft's Windows ran to stay in place last month as Window 7's market share gains made up for the largest-ever declines in Windows XP and Vista, data released today by Web metrics firm Net Applications showed.
By these numbers, Windows 7's gains were primarily at the expense of Windows XP.Let me be clear and state that I'm not a fan of MS.  That said, really?
This is how we phrase things these days?
They own a metric crap ton of the market share and it's the next version of their OS..OF COURSE most of the purchases are by users of the previous version.
I'm pretty sure that Snow Leopard most often replaced Leopard and not something else as well and they have a MUCH smaller market share but we didn't see a slashdot posting stating that "Apple ran to stay in place".
It's almost like we try to top ourselves here on every story.
I almost picture the moderators in some sort of IRC session going "no the language isn't anti-MS enough"...."but it's an article on clean water technology in the 3rd world"..."yeah but is there any way we can write it so it read MS not involved in clean water technology project?".
Come on....do better.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291334</id>
	<title>Amazing!</title>
	<author>straponego</author>
	<datestamp>1259673060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I could have sworn that XP's share relative to Windows 7 would grow once 7 was actually released.  Because I'm Commander Cuckoo Bananas, woopwoopwoop!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I could have sworn that XP 's share relative to Windows 7 would grow once 7 was actually released .
Because I 'm Commander Cuckoo Bananas , woopwoopwoop ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I could have sworn that XP's share relative to Windows 7 would grow once 7 was actually released.
Because I'm Commander Cuckoo Bananas, woopwoopwoop!!
!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30294646</id>
	<title>Re:Yet another story stating the obvious</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259613660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are you sure people are upgrading from XP to MS Windows 7?<br>
<br>
Take a look at the upgrade guide, the only way you can "upgrade" MS Windows XP to MS Windows 7 is to install MS Windows 7 or upgrade XP to Vista then upgrade to MS Windows 7. This is not a cheap exercise since an installable version of MS Windows 7 is more expensive than an upgrade and lets be honest here how many Joe six-packs know how to do an install of MS Windows 7 much less decide on which of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows\_7\_editions" title="wikipedia.org"> versions </a> [wikipedia.org] to pick.<br>
<br>
This story is rather pointless since in most first world countries if you purchase a PC (laptop or desktop) then you will have MS Windows 7 installed on it. What would be more interesting is the percentage of people who then install a Linux distribution. For the article to state that Linux is 1\% of the desktop is really drinking the Microsoft Cool-aid or believing people who can't be bothered doing some simple research. World wide Linux is very much more than 1\% of the desktop and exceeds Microsoft in the server market and embedded systems.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you sure people are upgrading from XP to MS Windows 7 ?
Take a look at the upgrade guide , the only way you can " upgrade " MS Windows XP to MS Windows 7 is to install MS Windows 7 or upgrade XP to Vista then upgrade to MS Windows 7 .
This is not a cheap exercise since an installable version of MS Windows 7 is more expensive than an upgrade and lets be honest here how many Joe six-packs know how to do an install of MS Windows 7 much less decide on which of the versions [ wikipedia.org ] to pick .
This story is rather pointless since in most first world countries if you purchase a PC ( laptop or desktop ) then you will have MS Windows 7 installed on it .
What would be more interesting is the percentage of people who then install a Linux distribution .
For the article to state that Linux is 1 \ % of the desktop is really drinking the Microsoft Cool-aid or believing people who ca n't be bothered doing some simple research .
World wide Linux is very much more than 1 \ % of the desktop and exceeds Microsoft in the server market and embedded systems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you sure people are upgrading from XP to MS Windows 7?
Take a look at the upgrade guide, the only way you can "upgrade" MS Windows XP to MS Windows 7 is to install MS Windows 7 or upgrade XP to Vista then upgrade to MS Windows 7.
This is not a cheap exercise since an installable version of MS Windows 7 is more expensive than an upgrade and lets be honest here how many Joe six-packs know how to do an install of MS Windows 7 much less decide on which of the  versions  [wikipedia.org] to pick.
This story is rather pointless since in most first world countries if you purchase a PC (laptop or desktop) then you will have MS Windows 7 installed on it.
What would be more interesting is the percentage of people who then install a Linux distribution.
For the article to state that Linux is 1\% of the desktop is really drinking the Microsoft Cool-aid or believing people who can't be bothered doing some simple research.
World wide Linux is very much more than 1\% of the desktop and exceeds Microsoft in the server market and embedded systems.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291986</id>
	<title>Re:Linux 20\% market share</title>
	<author>HermMunster</author>
	<datestamp>1259676780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Those data are not valid.  There are sites that have collected this data for the past 8-10 years which show that Linux has over 4\% of the market while Mac has less.  The data from those sites are collected from over 20,000 popular sites (not targeted toward the benefits of one OS).  For instance, a gaming site would likely have a huge bent toward Windows whereas Linux and Mac would barely show as a blip.  Please use the sites that are non-biased even in an inadvertent way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Those data are not valid .
There are sites that have collected this data for the past 8-10 years which show that Linux has over 4 \ % of the market while Mac has less .
The data from those sites are collected from over 20,000 popular sites ( not targeted toward the benefits of one OS ) .
For instance , a gaming site would likely have a huge bent toward Windows whereas Linux and Mac would barely show as a blip .
Please use the sites that are non-biased even in an inadvertent way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those data are not valid.
There are sites that have collected this data for the past 8-10 years which show that Linux has over 4\% of the market while Mac has less.
The data from those sites are collected from over 20,000 popular sites (not targeted toward the benefits of one OS).
For instance, a gaming site would likely have a huge bent toward Windows whereas Linux and Mac would barely show as a blip.
Please use the sites that are non-biased even in an inadvertent way.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30293820</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259691480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>False.  If a school district gets a Linux install in, but is unable to get basic Linux expertise (people who stuck an Ubuntu CD in and installed it are one thing.  People who are RHCE-level and who have actual administration experience in a production level environment are *VERY* rare), they are far worse off than if they paid the MS license fees and got a $80,000 MCSE to run the show.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>False .
If a school district gets a Linux install in , but is unable to get basic Linux expertise ( people who stuck an Ubuntu CD in and installed it are one thing .
People who are RHCE-level and who have actual administration experience in a production level environment are * VERY * rare ) , they are far worse off than if they paid the MS license fees and got a $ 80,000 MCSE to run the show .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>False.
If a school district gets a Linux install in, but is unable to get basic Linux expertise (people who stuck an Ubuntu CD in and installed it are one thing.
People who are RHCE-level and who have actual administration experience in a production level environment are *VERY* rare), they are far worse off than if they paid the MS license fees and got a $80,000 MCSE to run the show.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291170</id>
	<title>Re:Good news for Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259672340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If people are moving from XP or Vista to Win7 then its upgrades almost entirely.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If people are moving from XP or Vista to Win7 then its upgrades almost entirely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If people are moving from XP or Vista to Win7 then its upgrades almost entirely.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290696</id>
	<title>Re:Good news for Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259670120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Very few people buy retail copies of Windows. The vast majority of the install base will be from PC manufacturers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Very few people buy retail copies of Windows .
The vast majority of the install base will be from PC manufacturers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very few people buy retail copies of Windows.
The vast majority of the install base will be from PC manufacturers.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291740</id>
	<title>Re:Have you seen a Linux desktop in the wild?</title>
	<author>laffer1</author>
	<datestamp>1259675400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My boss runs ubuntu on his thinkpad.  He is not in IT.  I've also seen several older eee pcs running Linux around town.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My boss runs ubuntu on his thinkpad .
He is not in IT .
I 've also seen several older eee pcs running Linux around town .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My boss runs ubuntu on his thinkpad.
He is not in IT.
I've also seen several older eee pcs running Linux around town.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290976</id>
	<title>Windows 7 is still way slower than XP.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259671320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>
How has Microsoft not heard of the concept of "Coding yourself into a corner."...

Hopefully by the time my XP boxes die there will be enough anti-annoyance utilities
for 7 so I can play games on it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How has Microsoft not heard of the concept of " Coding yourself into a corner. " .. .
Hopefully by the time my XP boxes die there will be enough anti-annoyance utilities for 7 so I can play games on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
How has Microsoft not heard of the concept of "Coding yourself into a corner."...
Hopefully by the time my XP boxes die there will be enough anti-annoyance utilities
for 7 so I can play games on it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292042</id>
	<title>Re:Linux has a 75\% market share</title>
	<author>Belial6</author>
	<datestamp>1259677080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I assume you are only counting desktops.  In my house I have

2 - Windows 7 Desktops
1 - XP nettop
1 - XP Media Box (XBMC)
1 - Linux Desktop
5 - Linux Wireless Routers (2 for a wireless to wireless router when I travel)
2 - Linux TVs
2 - Linux NAS
1 - Linux VOIP adapter
1 - Linux Phone (Android actually, but that sits on top of Linux)

That puts me at 4 Windows and 12 Linux systems in my home, so Linux has a 75\% market share here too.  I would guess that there are a LOT more people running Linux in their homes than are counted or even realize it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I assume you are only counting desktops .
In my house I have 2 - Windows 7 Desktops 1 - XP nettop 1 - XP Media Box ( XBMC ) 1 - Linux Desktop 5 - Linux Wireless Routers ( 2 for a wireless to wireless router when I travel ) 2 - Linux TVs 2 - Linux NAS 1 - Linux VOIP adapter 1 - Linux Phone ( Android actually , but that sits on top of Linux ) That puts me at 4 Windows and 12 Linux systems in my home , so Linux has a 75 \ % market share here too .
I would guess that there are a LOT more people running Linux in their homes than are counted or even realize it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I assume you are only counting desktops.
In my house I have

2 - Windows 7 Desktops
1 - XP nettop
1 - XP Media Box (XBMC)
1 - Linux Desktop
5 - Linux Wireless Routers (2 for a wireless to wireless router when I travel)
2 - Linux TVs
2 - Linux NAS
1 - Linux VOIP adapter
1 - Linux Phone (Android actually, but that sits on top of Linux)

That puts me at 4 Windows and 12 Linux systems in my home, so Linux has a 75\% market share here too.
I would guess that there are a LOT more people running Linux in their homes than are counted or even realize it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290916</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>kregg</author>
	<datestamp>1259671020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cool lets go bleeding edge</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cool lets go bleeding edge</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cool lets go bleeding edge</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291694</id>
	<title>Re:Good news for Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259675100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, I personally upgraded all of my machines to Windows 7 x64. I was an XP holdout after hating Vista's slow performance (pre SP1). I began using Win 7 after the Beta was released and used it regularly from RC on. Now both of my systems are running Windows 7 x64 - one Professional and the other Home Professional. The Win 7 Professional x64 copy was obtained via the Yale MSDN Academic Alliance network, and the Home Premium copy was free with the purchase of a Vista laptop (that I immediately upgraded to Win 7 RC awaiting the retail release.)<br><br>As an MSDN user, I've actually been using the RTM since before the October, 22 launch. I've run into several kernel-level driver issues (BSOD when enabling jumbo frames on an Atheros PCI-E NIC fixed by reverting to the MS driver, Realtek audio driver refuses to release apps, preventing the system from shutting down, restarting, or going into standby - fixed by reverting to the MS driver or upgrading to the latest driver, and high kernel memory usage with an older Nvidia driver). Each bug was fixed by either using the recommended MS driver, installed by default during the install process, or by upgrading to the latest driver.<br><br>There are a number of features I like:<br>- Feels as fast as XP with better UI<br>- Meaningful 64 bit support (drivers for everything) compared to XP-64 and to a lesser extent, Vista 64 bit when it was released<br>- Optimized for Core i7 systems (Core parking improved, doesn't bounce processes from core to core like Vista, uses less power)<br>- Libraries are great (I have TV shows and Movies spread over many external TB drives which all show up in one library)<br>- System indexing with the ability to search the remote index on a shared computer instantly - first time a search over a SMB network has been usable<br>- File sharing performance greatly improved vs. XP<br><br>My favorite features at the moment are the improvements to networking. The Homegroup feature does make setting up a network easier. However, I like it due to the addition of remotely-accessible Libraries and instant searching of remote machines.<br><br>But the most significant networking improvement vis-a-v XP SP3 is the network throughput over SMB. SMB1 quite simply stinks. I would usually get 7-8 MB/sec transfer speeds in a 100 Mbit connection whereas I always got 11.5 MB/sec - fully saturing the line - with SMB2 in Win 7 - Win 7 transfers and Linux-Linux SFTP/SCP. You really need Vista/7 or Linux to take full advantage of Gigabit networking (OS X performance stinks based on some benchmarks I've seen). SMB2 can saturate a gigabit line at 115 MB/sec whereas at best you'll get around 40-50\% usage in XP.<br><br>The limitation for me has been my hard drive speed. I've been able to transfer 10 GB movies at 95 MB/sec avg speeds from my laptop to Core i7 desktop using eSATA attached storage on the laptop. I got the identical speed transferring from the same hard drive attached via eSATA on the desktop to the internal SATA drive. RAM --&gt; RAM transfers in jperf sustain 118 MB/sec (99.9\% utilization), and I can do about 115 MB/sec if I have a large file in RAM and copy it over the network.<br><br>Overally, I'm quite pleased with Windows 7 and glad I upgraded.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I personally upgraded all of my machines to Windows 7 x64 .
I was an XP holdout after hating Vista 's slow performance ( pre SP1 ) .
I began using Win 7 after the Beta was released and used it regularly from RC on .
Now both of my systems are running Windows 7 x64 - one Professional and the other Home Professional .
The Win 7 Professional x64 copy was obtained via the Yale MSDN Academic Alliance network , and the Home Premium copy was free with the purchase of a Vista laptop ( that I immediately upgraded to Win 7 RC awaiting the retail release .
) As an MSDN user , I 've actually been using the RTM since before the October , 22 launch .
I 've run into several kernel-level driver issues ( BSOD when enabling jumbo frames on an Atheros PCI-E NIC fixed by reverting to the MS driver , Realtek audio driver refuses to release apps , preventing the system from shutting down , restarting , or going into standby - fixed by reverting to the MS driver or upgrading to the latest driver , and high kernel memory usage with an older Nvidia driver ) .
Each bug was fixed by either using the recommended MS driver , installed by default during the install process , or by upgrading to the latest driver.There are a number of features I like : - Feels as fast as XP with better UI- Meaningful 64 bit support ( drivers for everything ) compared to XP-64 and to a lesser extent , Vista 64 bit when it was released- Optimized for Core i7 systems ( Core parking improved , does n't bounce processes from core to core like Vista , uses less power ) - Libraries are great ( I have TV shows and Movies spread over many external TB drives which all show up in one library ) - System indexing with the ability to search the remote index on a shared computer instantly - first time a search over a SMB network has been usable- File sharing performance greatly improved vs. XPMy favorite features at the moment are the improvements to networking .
The Homegroup feature does make setting up a network easier .
However , I like it due to the addition of remotely-accessible Libraries and instant searching of remote machines.But the most significant networking improvement vis-a-v XP SP3 is the network throughput over SMB .
SMB1 quite simply stinks .
I would usually get 7-8 MB/sec transfer speeds in a 100 Mbit connection whereas I always got 11.5 MB/sec - fully saturing the line - with SMB2 in Win 7 - Win 7 transfers and Linux-Linux SFTP/SCP .
You really need Vista/7 or Linux to take full advantage of Gigabit networking ( OS X performance stinks based on some benchmarks I 've seen ) .
SMB2 can saturate a gigabit line at 115 MB/sec whereas at best you 'll get around 40-50 \ % usage in XP.The limitation for me has been my hard drive speed .
I 've been able to transfer 10 GB movies at 95 MB/sec avg speeds from my laptop to Core i7 desktop using eSATA attached storage on the laptop .
I got the identical speed transferring from the same hard drive attached via eSATA on the desktop to the internal SATA drive .
RAM -- &gt; RAM transfers in jperf sustain 118 MB/sec ( 99.9 \ % utilization ) , and I can do about 115 MB/sec if I have a large file in RAM and copy it over the network.Overally , I 'm quite pleased with Windows 7 and glad I upgraded .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I personally upgraded all of my machines to Windows 7 x64.
I was an XP holdout after hating Vista's slow performance (pre SP1).
I began using Win 7 after the Beta was released and used it regularly from RC on.
Now both of my systems are running Windows 7 x64 - one Professional and the other Home Professional.
The Win 7 Professional x64 copy was obtained via the Yale MSDN Academic Alliance network, and the Home Premium copy was free with the purchase of a Vista laptop (that I immediately upgraded to Win 7 RC awaiting the retail release.
)As an MSDN user, I've actually been using the RTM since before the October, 22 launch.
I've run into several kernel-level driver issues (BSOD when enabling jumbo frames on an Atheros PCI-E NIC fixed by reverting to the MS driver, Realtek audio driver refuses to release apps, preventing the system from shutting down, restarting, or going into standby - fixed by reverting to the MS driver or upgrading to the latest driver, and high kernel memory usage with an older Nvidia driver).
Each bug was fixed by either using the recommended MS driver, installed by default during the install process, or by upgrading to the latest driver.There are a number of features I like:- Feels as fast as XP with better UI- Meaningful 64 bit support (drivers for everything) compared to XP-64 and to a lesser extent, Vista 64 bit when it was released- Optimized for Core i7 systems (Core parking improved, doesn't bounce processes from core to core like Vista, uses less power)- Libraries are great (I have TV shows and Movies spread over many external TB drives which all show up in one library)- System indexing with the ability to search the remote index on a shared computer instantly - first time a search over a SMB network has been usable- File sharing performance greatly improved vs. XPMy favorite features at the moment are the improvements to networking.
The Homegroup feature does make setting up a network easier.
However, I like it due to the addition of remotely-accessible Libraries and instant searching of remote machines.But the most significant networking improvement vis-a-v XP SP3 is the network throughput over SMB.
SMB1 quite simply stinks.
I would usually get 7-8 MB/sec transfer speeds in a 100 Mbit connection whereas I always got 11.5 MB/sec - fully saturing the line - with SMB2 in Win 7 - Win 7 transfers and Linux-Linux SFTP/SCP.
You really need Vista/7 or Linux to take full advantage of Gigabit networking (OS X performance stinks based on some benchmarks I've seen).
SMB2 can saturate a gigabit line at 115 MB/sec whereas at best you'll get around 40-50\% usage in XP.The limitation for me has been my hard drive speed.
I've been able to transfer 10 GB movies at 95 MB/sec avg speeds from my laptop to Core i7 desktop using eSATA attached storage on the laptop.
I got the identical speed transferring from the same hard drive attached via eSATA on the desktop to the internal SATA drive.
RAM --&gt; RAM transfers in jperf sustain 118 MB/sec (99.9\% utilization), and I can do about 115 MB/sec if I have a large file in RAM and copy it over the network.Overally, I'm quite pleased with Windows 7 and glad I upgraded.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292190</id>
	<title>Re:Linux 20\% market share</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259677980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It has a lot more than 1\% of the total share as well.  It's hard to take these statistics seriously when they continue to report this nonsense.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It has a lot more than 1 \ % of the total share as well .
It 's hard to take these statistics seriously when they continue to report this nonsense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It has a lot more than 1\% of the total share as well.
It's hard to take these statistics seriously when they continue to report this nonsense.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30296176</id>
	<title>only 1\%</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>with the 3 month release cycle I'm surprised that Linux does not have a larger share with more than 500 major companies, and numerous individuals contributing to Linux. not just a desktop OS, Linux is a major player in the internet backbone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>with the 3 month release cycle I 'm surprised that Linux does not have a larger share with more than 500 major companies , and numerous individuals contributing to Linux .
not just a desktop OS , Linux is a major player in the internet backbone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with the 3 month release cycle I'm surprised that Linux does not have a larger share with more than 500 major companies, and numerous individuals contributing to Linux.
not just a desktop OS, Linux is a major player in the internet backbone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292066</id>
	<title>Re:Liars and statistics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259677260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How on earth do you accurately measure OS installations</p></div><p>Polling. For example, you pick general interest websites, such as online merchants, and look at what visitors is using.</p><p>You can also do sampling of computers you encounter out in the world. For example, when in an airport lounge or coffe shop or such, look around at the laptops and see what they are running.</p><p>You can survey IT departments at universities where all major OSes are supported, and find out people are choosing.</p><p>When in line to check out at the market, strike up a conversation with the person ahead of you. Ask if they have a computer, and if they do ask what OS they run.</p><p>No one of these will be super accurate, but when you combine them all, you get some fairly accurate numbers (which match reasonably well with the web numbers that companies like the one being discussed here report).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How on earth do you accurately measure OS installationsPolling .
For example , you pick general interest websites , such as online merchants , and look at what visitors is using.You can also do sampling of computers you encounter out in the world .
For example , when in an airport lounge or coffe shop or such , look around at the laptops and see what they are running.You can survey IT departments at universities where all major OSes are supported , and find out people are choosing.When in line to check out at the market , strike up a conversation with the person ahead of you .
Ask if they have a computer , and if they do ask what OS they run.No one of these will be super accurate , but when you combine them all , you get some fairly accurate numbers ( which match reasonably well with the web numbers that companies like the one being discussed here report ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How on earth do you accurately measure OS installationsPolling.
For example, you pick general interest websites, such as online merchants, and look at what visitors is using.You can also do sampling of computers you encounter out in the world.
For example, when in an airport lounge or coffe shop or such, look around at the laptops and see what they are running.You can survey IT departments at universities where all major OSes are supported, and find out people are choosing.When in line to check out at the market, strike up a conversation with the person ahead of you.
Ask if they have a computer, and if they do ask what OS they run.No one of these will be super accurate, but when you combine them all, you get some fairly accurate numbers (which match reasonably well with the web numbers that companies like the one being discussed here report).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290960</id>
	<title>Re:Liars and statistics</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1259671260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, statistics are kind of interesting, but you have to try to keep a clear idea of what they're really saying.  I guess these are measurements of the share of web traffic each OS has according to some measurement of web traffic.  Is it done with unique IPs, in which case NAT could caused skewed statistics?  Is it doing it by cookies?  Which sites, exactly, are being monitored?  Is it being treated like a random sample and used to extrapolate data?  Is there an attempt to account for people who might not visit those sites, or even people who don't really use the Internet?
</p><p>I don't know the answer to that stuff, but even if all that were settled, there's another problem: depending on what your purposes are, market share might not be the thing you really want to look at.  What about the total number of sales for the year?  What about the rate of growth of sales?  Are the sales with new computers, OEM copies, or retail copies?  What about profit over a given period?  Do you want to look at total profit or profit margin?
</p><p>People tend to cite numbers like these as though they depict some absolute reality.  "Windows 7 is a success," or "Windows 7 is a failure," depending on what they want to prove.  It's all a bit more complicated than that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , statistics are kind of interesting , but you have to try to keep a clear idea of what they 're really saying .
I guess these are measurements of the share of web traffic each OS has according to some measurement of web traffic .
Is it done with unique IPs , in which case NAT could caused skewed statistics ?
Is it doing it by cookies ?
Which sites , exactly , are being monitored ?
Is it being treated like a random sample and used to extrapolate data ?
Is there an attempt to account for people who might not visit those sites , or even people who do n't really use the Internet ?
I do n't know the answer to that stuff , but even if all that were settled , there 's another problem : depending on what your purposes are , market share might not be the thing you really want to look at .
What about the total number of sales for the year ?
What about the rate of growth of sales ?
Are the sales with new computers , OEM copies , or retail copies ?
What about profit over a given period ?
Do you want to look at total profit or profit margin ?
People tend to cite numbers like these as though they depict some absolute reality .
" Windows 7 is a success , " or " Windows 7 is a failure , " depending on what they want to prove .
It 's all a bit more complicated than that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, statistics are kind of interesting, but you have to try to keep a clear idea of what they're really saying.
I guess these are measurements of the share of web traffic each OS has according to some measurement of web traffic.
Is it done with unique IPs, in which case NAT could caused skewed statistics?
Is it doing it by cookies?
Which sites, exactly, are being monitored?
Is it being treated like a random sample and used to extrapolate data?
Is there an attempt to account for people who might not visit those sites, or even people who don't really use the Internet?
I don't know the answer to that stuff, but even if all that were settled, there's another problem: depending on what your purposes are, market share might not be the thing you really want to look at.
What about the total number of sales for the year?
What about the rate of growth of sales?
Are the sales with new computers, OEM copies, or retail copies?
What about profit over a given period?
Do you want to look at total profit or profit margin?
People tend to cite numbers like these as though they depict some absolute reality.
"Windows 7 is a success," or "Windows 7 is a failure," depending on what they want to prove.
It's all a bit more complicated than that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290544</id>
	<title>Gah!</title>
	<author>sakdoctor</author>
	<datestamp>1259669460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That article was basically a <a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/chartfx62/temp/CFT1201\_0609203D157.png" title="hitslink.com">graph</a> [hitslink.com] in text form.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That article was basically a graph [ hitslink.com ] in text form .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That article was basically a graph [hitslink.com] in text form.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292556</id>
	<title>Re:Linux has a 75\% market share</title>
	<author>flyingfsck</author>
	<datestamp>1259680440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yup, pretty much every Windows machine sits behind a Linux router and cable or ADSL modem, so in pretty much every home, the number of Linux devices outnumber or at least equal the number of Windows machines.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yup , pretty much every Windows machine sits behind a Linux router and cable or ADSL modem , so in pretty much every home , the number of Linux devices outnumber or at least equal the number of Windows machines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yup, pretty much every Windows machine sits behind a Linux router and cable or ADSL modem, so in pretty much every home, the number of Linux devices outnumber or at least equal the number of Windows machines.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30294090</id>
	<title>Re:Liars and statistics</title>
	<author>srhill</author>
	<datestamp>1259694060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Am I a Windows user because I run XP in Parallels on my Mac, or wine in ubuntu? Am I a linux user or a Mac user because I run andLinux and PearPC on my XP laptop???

I'm so confused.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I a Windows user because I run XP in Parallels on my Mac , or wine in ubuntu ?
Am I a linux user or a Mac user because I run andLinux and PearPC on my XP laptop ? ? ?
I 'm so confused .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I a Windows user because I run XP in Parallels on my Mac, or wine in ubuntu?
Am I a linux user or a Mac user because I run andLinux and PearPC on my XP laptop???
I'm so confused.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30293710</id>
	<title>Re:Windows 7 is still way slower than XP.</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1259690760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In other news, KDE 4 is slower than KDE 3 (which was slower that KDE 2, etc).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In other news , KDE 4 is slower than KDE 3 ( which was slower that KDE 2 , etc ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In other news, KDE 4 is slower than KDE 3 (which was slower that KDE 2, etc).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291474</id>
	<title>Linux has a 75\% market share</title>
	<author>Roblimo</author>
	<datestamp>1259673720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really. I just did a survey of all the computers in my house. Three were running Ubuntu Linux, one was running Windows Vista.</p><p>That's a 75\% market share!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really .
I just did a survey of all the computers in my house .
Three were running Ubuntu Linux , one was running Windows Vista.That 's a 75 \ % market share !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really.
I just did a survey of all the computers in my house.
Three were running Ubuntu Linux, one was running Windows Vista.That's a 75\% market share!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291004</id>
	<title>A familiar sound in the halls of Microsoft</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259671440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Apple's Mac OS X lost share during November... betcha Ballmer is having an extra giddy time with that news."</p><p>Techs breathed a sign of relief when for the first time in years the sound of a chair striking a wall was in celibration instead of rage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Apple 's Mac OS X lost share during November... betcha Ballmer is having an extra giddy time with that news .
" Techs breathed a sign of relief when for the first time in years the sound of a chair striking a wall was in celibration instead of rage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Apple's Mac OS X lost share during November... betcha Ballmer is having an extra giddy time with that news.
"Techs breathed a sign of relief when for the first time in years the sound of a chair striking a wall was in celibration instead of rage.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30293652</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259690220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I've yet to install the free copy of Windows 7 I have, and it may be years. Who knows. I have, however, had a deep and ever more revolting look at the abomination that is 2008 R2. If this is MS's idea of a "usable secure" system, they really should invest a couple of K and buy pretty much any *nix box.</p><p>If W7 has any of the fubar crap that 2008R2 has for user "features", then the only thing I'd ever use it for, provided I ever have time to buy a game again....After my current stint of writing system management code comes to an end, I hope that my next encounter with MS is at least 20 years in the future, in an article describing how MS blew the best opportunity a company ever had.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I 've yet to install the free copy of Windows 7 I have , and it may be years .
Who knows .
I have , however , had a deep and ever more revolting look at the abomination that is 2008 R2 .
If this is MS 's idea of a " usable secure " system , they really should invest a couple of K and buy pretty much any * nix box.If W7 has any of the fubar crap that 2008R2 has for user " features " , then the only thing I 'd ever use it for , provided I ever have time to buy a game again....After my current stint of writing system management code comes to an end , I hope that my next encounter with MS is at least 20 years in the future , in an article describing how MS blew the best opportunity a company ever had .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I've yet to install the free copy of Windows 7 I have, and it may be years.
Who knows.
I have, however, had a deep and ever more revolting look at the abomination that is 2008 R2.
If this is MS's idea of a "usable secure" system, they really should invest a couple of K and buy pretty much any *nix box.If W7 has any of the fubar crap that 2008R2 has for user "features", then the only thing I'd ever use it for, provided I ever have time to buy a game again....After my current stint of writing system management code comes to an end, I hope that my next encounter with MS is at least 20 years in the future, in an article describing how MS blew the best opportunity a company ever had.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292666</id>
	<title>Re:Yet another story stating the obvious</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259681280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course they are upgrading, my Vista system just decided it wasn't genuine, last month my boss's XP machine decided it wasn't genuine coincidence? If you can't find that little certificate what choice do you have, you can't even buy XP anymore! At least I was dual-booting with Linux but Mozilla reports it's IE6 on Vista.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course they are upgrading , my Vista system just decided it was n't genuine , last month my boss 's XP machine decided it was n't genuine coincidence ?
If you ca n't find that little certificate what choice do you have , you ca n't even buy XP anymore !
At least I was dual-booting with Linux but Mozilla reports it 's IE6 on Vista .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course they are upgrading, my Vista system just decided it wasn't genuine, last month my boss's XP machine decided it wasn't genuine coincidence?
If you can't find that little certificate what choice do you have, you can't even buy XP anymore!
At least I was dual-booting with Linux but Mozilla reports it's IE6 on Vista.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30374254</id>
	<title>Much jadedness</title>
	<author>HermMunster</author>
	<datestamp>1260295500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The actual number of products such as Active Directory are only used in a limited way by a limited few corporations and other entities.  It is disappointing to think that (of the billion or so computers used worldwide) people here seem to think that the vast majority are part of those few corporations and are used within Active Directory at that.</p><p>There seems to be some contention in this thread about what the value of Win7 is when you can use Linux (or other free OSes) instead.  The obvious retort by the Win7 fans is that it supports Active Directory.  No matter what you think that product just isn't a product for the vast majority of users in the world.  Not only do they not use it they wouldn't even begin to know what it means.  Not only that they wouldn't have a clue what to do with it if they knew what it meant.</p><p>People need to take a step back and ask themselves what they are justifying and whom for.  You don't justify win7 by saying the average user can use Active Directory (or other features) if they don't use it nor ever will.  In regard to other OSes, while LDAP is considered by some to be a major element of Active Directory, OpenLDAP is available.  Thus that eliminates the Win7 advantage (except that Active Directory offers other benefits), but nonetheless there is no need to even consider any argument as the vast majority of computer users will never use and do not need any LDAP feature or Active Directory feature).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The actual number of products such as Active Directory are only used in a limited way by a limited few corporations and other entities .
It is disappointing to think that ( of the billion or so computers used worldwide ) people here seem to think that the vast majority are part of those few corporations and are used within Active Directory at that.There seems to be some contention in this thread about what the value of Win7 is when you can use Linux ( or other free OSes ) instead .
The obvious retort by the Win7 fans is that it supports Active Directory .
No matter what you think that product just is n't a product for the vast majority of users in the world .
Not only do they not use it they would n't even begin to know what it means .
Not only that they would n't have a clue what to do with it if they knew what it meant.People need to take a step back and ask themselves what they are justifying and whom for .
You do n't justify win7 by saying the average user can use Active Directory ( or other features ) if they do n't use it nor ever will .
In regard to other OSes , while LDAP is considered by some to be a major element of Active Directory , OpenLDAP is available .
Thus that eliminates the Win7 advantage ( except that Active Directory offers other benefits ) , but nonetheless there is no need to even consider any argument as the vast majority of computer users will never use and do not need any LDAP feature or Active Directory feature ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The actual number of products such as Active Directory are only used in a limited way by a limited few corporations and other entities.
It is disappointing to think that (of the billion or so computers used worldwide) people here seem to think that the vast majority are part of those few corporations and are used within Active Directory at that.There seems to be some contention in this thread about what the value of Win7 is when you can use Linux (or other free OSes) instead.
The obvious retort by the Win7 fans is that it supports Active Directory.
No matter what you think that product just isn't a product for the vast majority of users in the world.
Not only do they not use it they wouldn't even begin to know what it means.
Not only that they wouldn't have a clue what to do with it if they knew what it meant.People need to take a step back and ask themselves what they are justifying and whom for.
You don't justify win7 by saying the average user can use Active Directory (or other features) if they don't use it nor ever will.
In regard to other OSes, while LDAP is considered by some to be a major element of Active Directory, OpenLDAP is available.
Thus that eliminates the Win7 advantage (except that Active Directory offers other benefits), but nonetheless there is no need to even consider any argument as the vast majority of computer users will never use and do not need any LDAP feature or Active Directory feature).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30295752</id>
	<title>Re:Have you seen a Linux desktop in the wild?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259584980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not a user install, but I've used internet kiosks in airports running Ubuntu (I came across one rebooting, that's how I know).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not a user install , but I 've used internet kiosks in airports running Ubuntu ( I came across one rebooting , that 's how I know ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not a user install, but I've used internet kiosks in airports running Ubuntu (I came across one rebooting, that's how I know).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30292732</id>
	<title>Re:Linux is more succesful than the iPhone</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259681820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, and my lemonade stand has about 90\% of the neighbourhood market, yet somehow I don't have the market cap or coke? When will investors realise this madness, and start buying my stocks?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , and my lemonade stand has about 90 \ % of the neighbourhood market , yet somehow I do n't have the market cap or coke ?
When will investors realise this madness , and start buying my stocks ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, and my lemonade stand has about 90\% of the neighbourhood market, yet somehow I don't have the market cap or coke?
When will investors realise this madness, and start buying my stocks?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291014</id>
	<title>Spin</title>
	<author>ildon</author>
	<datestamp>1259671500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why is this being reported as some kind of loss for Microsoft? Isn't this *exactly* what they wanted? XP users who didn't switch to Vista to switch to 7?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is this being reported as some kind of loss for Microsoft ?
Is n't this * exactly * what they wanted ?
XP users who did n't switch to Vista to switch to 7 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is this being reported as some kind of loss for Microsoft?
Isn't this *exactly* what they wanted?
XP users who didn't switch to Vista to switch to 7?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290990</id>
	<title>Re:Well..</title>
	<author>AnotherShep</author>
	<datestamp>1259671380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, let's make the art students use GIMP and econ students use OpenOffice and and and... The less enrollment, the less stuff we have to buy, right?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , let 's make the art students use GIMP and econ students use OpenOffice and and and... The less enrollment , the less stuff we have to buy , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, let's make the art students use GIMP and econ students use OpenOffice and and and... The less enrollment, the less stuff we have to buy, right?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290810</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30290650</id>
	<title>Well duh!</title>
	<author>Tarlus</author>
	<datestamp>1259669880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From the summary:<p><div class="quote"><p>For each copy of Vista replaced by Windows 7 during November, more than six copies of XP were swapped out.</p></div><p>Well duh! That's because there are more than six XP users per each Vista user!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the summary : For each copy of Vista replaced by Windows 7 during November , more than six copies of XP were swapped out.Well duh !
That 's because there are more than six XP users per each Vista user !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the summary:For each copy of Vista replaced by Windows 7 during November, more than six copies of XP were swapped out.Well duh!
That's because there are more than six XP users per each Vista user!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291918</id>
	<title>Running to stay in place?</title>
	<author>kgwilliam</author>
	<datestamp>1259676240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Windows 7 has been a huge seller and revenue generator for Microsoft, breaking all previous OS sales records (While at the same time reducing support and maintencance costs of Windows XP since it is cheaper to support Windows 7 than Windows XP, so more XP -&gt; 7 conversions = less cost to MS), but according to the article this is somehow running in place?  All companies wish to be so lucky...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows 7 has been a huge seller and revenue generator for Microsoft , breaking all previous OS sales records ( While at the same time reducing support and maintencance costs of Windows XP since it is cheaper to support Windows 7 than Windows XP , so more XP - &gt; 7 conversions = less cost to MS ) , but according to the article this is somehow running in place ?
All companies wish to be so lucky.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows 7 has been a huge seller and revenue generator for Microsoft, breaking all previous OS sales records (While at the same time reducing support and maintencance costs of Windows XP since it is cheaper to support Windows 7 than Windows XP, so more XP -&gt; 7 conversions = less cost to MS), but according to the article this is somehow running in place?
All companies wish to be so lucky...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30315258</id>
	<title>Re:Yet another story stating the obvious</title>
	<author>pebs</author>
	<datestamp>1259831100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Let's remember, Vista wouldn't run on old equipment, while Win7 runs on anything over a gigahertz with a gig of memory. A lot of XP users COULDN'T upgrade to Vista!!</i></p><p>That's assuming your video/sound card are supported by Win7.  I tried to install it on an old machine (1.4 GHz Athlon) and there were no Win7 drivers for either my video or sound card.  Installed Ubuntu instead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's remember , Vista would n't run on old equipment , while Win7 runs on anything over a gigahertz with a gig of memory .
A lot of XP users COULD N'T upgrade to Vista !
! That 's assuming your video/sound card are supported by Win7 .
I tried to install it on an old machine ( 1.4 GHz Athlon ) and there were no Win7 drivers for either my video or sound card .
Installed Ubuntu instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's remember, Vista wouldn't run on old equipment, while Win7 runs on anything over a gigahertz with a gig of memory.
A lot of XP users COULDN'T upgrade to Vista!
!That's assuming your video/sound card are supported by Win7.
I tried to install it on an old machine (1.4 GHz Athlon) and there were no Win7 drivers for either my video or sound card.
Installed Ubuntu instead.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_01_2226215.30291236</parent>
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