<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_30_1818207</id>
	<title>Dell Defect Turning 2.2GHz CPU Into 100MHz CPU?</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1259571840000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>jtavares2 writes <i>"In what is being dubbed Throttlegate, scores of users on <a href="http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=348221">many</a> <a href="http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=355599">message</a> <a href="http://en.community.dell.com/forums/p/19256129/19427660.aspx">boards</a> have been complaining about nexplicably aggressive throttling policies on their Dell Latitude E6500 and E6400 laptops which cause their CPUs to be throttled to less than 5\% of their theoretical maximums even while at room temperatures. In many cases, the issue can be triggered just by <a href="http://en.community.dell.com/forums/p/19247293/19591882.aspx?PageIndex=8">playing a video</a> or performing some other trivial, but CPU intensive, task. After being <a href="http://imsahp.chambana.net/~randall/dell/Dell\%20E6X00\%20downclock\%20problem\%20high\%20compatibility.pdf">banned</a> [PDF] from the Dell Forums for revealing 'non-public information,' one user went so far as to write and publish a <a href="http://imsahp.chambana.net/~randall/dell/throttlegate.pdf">59-page report</a> [PDF] explaining and diagnosing the throttling problem in incredible detail. Dell seems to be silent on the issue, but many users are hoping for a formal recall."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>jtavares2 writes " In what is being dubbed Throttlegate , scores of users on many message boards have been complaining about nexplicably aggressive throttling policies on their Dell Latitude E6500 and E6400 laptops which cause their CPUs to be throttled to less than 5 \ % of their theoretical maximums even while at room temperatures .
In many cases , the issue can be triggered just by playing a video or performing some other trivial , but CPU intensive , task .
After being banned [ PDF ] from the Dell Forums for revealing 'non-public information, ' one user went so far as to write and publish a 59-page report [ PDF ] explaining and diagnosing the throttling problem in incredible detail .
Dell seems to be silent on the issue , but many users are hoping for a formal recall .
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<sentencetext>jtavares2 writes "In what is being dubbed Throttlegate, scores of users on many message boards have been complaining about nexplicably aggressive throttling policies on their Dell Latitude E6500 and E6400 laptops which cause their CPUs to be throttled to less than 5\% of their theoretical maximums even while at room temperatures.
In many cases, the issue can be triggered just by playing a video or performing some other trivial, but CPU intensive, task.
After being banned [PDF] from the Dell Forums for revealing 'non-public information,' one user went so far as to write and publish a 59-page report [PDF] explaining and diagnosing the throttling problem in incredible detail.
Dell seems to be silent on the issue, but many users are hoping for a formal recall.
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30280366</id>
	<title>Re:Recall when hell freezes over</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259700960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Any time you have an issue you feel is unresolved after you contact support, go here: https://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dellcare/outstanding\_issues\_tech?c=us&amp;l=en&amp;s=gen</p><p>There is a couple of special groups that handle escalations like this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any time you have an issue you feel is unresolved after you contact support , go here : https : //support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dellcare/outstanding \ _issues \ _tech ? c = us&amp;l = en&amp;s = genThere is a couple of special groups that handle escalations like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any time you have an issue you feel is unresolved after you contact support, go here: https://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dellcare/outstanding\_issues\_tech?c=us&amp;l=en&amp;s=genThere is a couple of special groups that handle escalations like this.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276584</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276072</id>
	<title>Re:PDF Mirror</title>
	<author>xur17</author>
	<datestamp>1259580720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here's a mirror that has the first file so far (the second one will be added once I can get the file:

<a href="http://www.sigmirror.com/browse/admin/4438\_NOr20" title="sigmirror.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sigmirror.com/browse/admin/4438\_NOr20</a> [sigmirror.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's a mirror that has the first file so far ( the second one will be added once I can get the file : http : //www.sigmirror.com/browse/admin/4438 \ _NOr20 [ sigmirror.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's a mirror that has the first file so far (the second one will be added once I can get the file:

http://www.sigmirror.com/browse/admin/4438\_NOr20 [sigmirror.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30280542</id>
	<title>Dammit Dell</title>
	<author>OrangeTide</author>
	<datestamp>1259659980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"In many cases, the issue can be triggered just by playing a video"</p><p>I bought this laptop to watch porn. Now what am I supposed to do with it, read slashdot or update my facebook with "no porn for me today<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:("</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" In many cases , the issue can be triggered just by playing a video " I bought this laptop to watch porn .
Now what am I supposed to do with it , read slashdot or update my facebook with " no porn for me today : ( "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"In many cases, the issue can be triggered just by playing a video"I bought this laptop to watch porn.
Now what am I supposed to do with it, read slashdot or update my facebook with "no porn for me today :("</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30306644</id>
	<title>new bios posted</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259593980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>new bios posted yesterday for both e6400 &amp; e6500 series laptops:</p><p>ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/bios/E6400A19.EXE</p><p>ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/bios/E6500A18.EXE</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>new bios posted yesterday for both e6400 &amp; e6500 series laptops : ftp : //ftp.us.dell.com/bios/E6400A19.EXEftp : //ftp.us.dell.com/bios/E6500A18.EXE</tokentext>
<sentencetext>new bios posted yesterday for both e6400 &amp; e6500 series laptops:ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/bios/E6400A19.EXEftp://ftp.us.dell.com/bios/E6500A18.EXE</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30293988</id>
	<title>Re:Many users are hoping for a formal recall</title>
	<author>Lockblade</author>
	<datestamp>1259692980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Turbo button would be nice, but what about a turbo dial?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Turbo button would be nice , but what about a turbo dial ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Turbo button would be nice, but what about a turbo dial?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277544</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277748</id>
	<title>Re:Recall = Firmware update</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259588520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They recalled your kid?  Where did you send it?  Or was it just a firmware upgrade?</htmltext>
<tokenext>They recalled your kid ?
Where did you send it ?
Or was it just a firmware upgrade ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They recalled your kid?
Where did you send it?
Or was it just a firmware upgrade?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274866</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259576280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree...it's no longer clever when *anything* that elicits a response in the media is called \_\_\_\_\_\_gate.</p><p>OMG, Woodsgate, Golfgate or Tigergate (Tiger Woods Crashes)<br>OMG, Sungate (Oracle buys Sun)<br>OMG, Afghanagate (Obama gives new Afghan stragey)<br>OMG, Slashgate (all the dupes)</p><p>It's such a horrible trend, I dub this, GATEGATE.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree...it 's no longer clever when * anything * that elicits a response in the media is called \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _gate.OMG , Woodsgate , Golfgate or Tigergate ( Tiger Woods Crashes ) OMG , Sungate ( Oracle buys Sun ) OMG , Afghanagate ( Obama gives new Afghan stragey ) OMG , Slashgate ( all the dupes ) It 's such a horrible trend , I dub this , GATEGATE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree...it's no longer clever when *anything* that elicits a response in the media is called \_\_\_\_\_\_gate.OMG, Woodsgate, Golfgate or Tigergate (Tiger Woods Crashes)OMG, Sungate (Oracle buys Sun)OMG, Afghanagate (Obama gives new Afghan stragey)OMG, Slashgate (all the dupes)It's such a horrible trend, I dub this, GATEGATE.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274762</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276560</id>
	<title>Seriously - People need to Proofread these things</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259582460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder how many a "diarrhea" of users is?  Maybe close to 144 - that would be pretty gross, or 288? that would be "too" gross [rim-shot].</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how many a " diarrhea " of users is ?
Maybe close to 144 - that would be pretty gross , or 288 ?
that would be " too " gross [ rim-shot ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how many a "diarrhea" of users is?
Maybe close to 144 - that would be pretty gross, or 288?
that would be "too" gross [rim-shot].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277496</id>
	<title>Re:Ok, so Dell sucks.</title>
	<author>harrkev</author>
	<datestamp>1259586780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It really isn't that hard to build a PC yourself.  That is the ONLY route I would go for a desktop.  You should try it.  The very fact that you read/post on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. makes you qualified.</p><p>Now, building a laptop yourself does not really buy you much.  Yes, there are companies out there that sell a "bare-bones" laptop, but that really means that you get to decide how much RAM and what speed processor you want.</p><p>I have no real 1st hand experience (the last "laptop" that I purchased was an Acer netbook that I like), but Toshiba laptops tend to get great reviews (I loved the one that I had 10 years ago).  Maybe you should start there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It really is n't that hard to build a PC yourself .
That is the ONLY route I would go for a desktop .
You should try it .
The very fact that you read/post on / .
makes you qualified.Now , building a laptop yourself does not really buy you much .
Yes , there are companies out there that sell a " bare-bones " laptop , but that really means that you get to decide how much RAM and what speed processor you want.I have no real 1st hand experience ( the last " laptop " that I purchased was an Acer netbook that I like ) , but Toshiba laptops tend to get great reviews ( I loved the one that I had 10 years ago ) .
Maybe you should start there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It really isn't that hard to build a PC yourself.
That is the ONLY route I would go for a desktop.
You should try it.
The very fact that you read/post on /.
makes you qualified.Now, building a laptop yourself does not really buy you much.
Yes, there are companies out there that sell a "bare-bones" laptop, but that really means that you get to decide how much RAM and what speed processor you want.I have no real 1st hand experience (the last "laptop" that I purchased was an Acer netbook that I like), but Toshiba laptops tend to get great reviews (I loved the one that I had 10 years ago).
Maybe you should start there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276042</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276930</id>
	<title>Re:So... what you say is ...</title>
	<author>Abaddon</author>
	<datestamp>1259584080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sire. You are the man. I never replied to any comment until yours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sire .
You are the man .
I never replied to any comment until yours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sire.
You are the man.
I never replied to any comment until yours.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275276</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276584</id>
	<title>Recall when hell freezes over</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1259582580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use to own a Dell Inspiron 5150 that had to have a motherboard replaced out of warranty. (I've since given it to my wife as she is a lighter user and it'll probably last longer with her). The most likely cause is a known but never acknowledged issue where with normal use the case wears against a component on the motherboard severing it. It's not the first such issue I've heard of.</p><p>My current laptop is a Dell Inspiron 9400. I got it when they were giving away 3 years warranty for no extra cost. I'm so glad I did. I have had 2 hard disks replaced. (Issue finally fixed when I insisted on a different brand). I have had a hinge fixed after it broke (no misuse or abnormal use). I've had 2 screens replaced because they developed large dust bunnies behind the screen. I've had the CPU fan jam. It also has a habit of randomly taking 2 minutes to progress through the boot screen. No idea why. Dealing with warranty has been a hassle - worst experience was when they didn't show up for 3 appointments in a row. My wife or I had to be home to deal with it and then they wouldn't show up. The 3rd time they tried to arrange a technician that was 6 hours away at around 8pm. Well that wasn't going to work. But at least I didn't have to pay for parts for this machine. It's still my last Dell though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use to own a Dell Inspiron 5150 that had to have a motherboard replaced out of warranty .
( I 've since given it to my wife as she is a lighter user and it 'll probably last longer with her ) .
The most likely cause is a known but never acknowledged issue where with normal use the case wears against a component on the motherboard severing it .
It 's not the first such issue I 've heard of.My current laptop is a Dell Inspiron 9400 .
I got it when they were giving away 3 years warranty for no extra cost .
I 'm so glad I did .
I have had 2 hard disks replaced .
( Issue finally fixed when I insisted on a different brand ) .
I have had a hinge fixed after it broke ( no misuse or abnormal use ) .
I 've had 2 screens replaced because they developed large dust bunnies behind the screen .
I 've had the CPU fan jam .
It also has a habit of randomly taking 2 minutes to progress through the boot screen .
No idea why .
Dealing with warranty has been a hassle - worst experience was when they did n't show up for 3 appointments in a row .
My wife or I had to be home to deal with it and then they would n't show up .
The 3rd time they tried to arrange a technician that was 6 hours away at around 8pm .
Well that was n't going to work .
But at least I did n't have to pay for parts for this machine .
It 's still my last Dell though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use to own a Dell Inspiron 5150 that had to have a motherboard replaced out of warranty.
(I've since given it to my wife as she is a lighter user and it'll probably last longer with her).
The most likely cause is a known but never acknowledged issue where with normal use the case wears against a component on the motherboard severing it.
It's not the first such issue I've heard of.My current laptop is a Dell Inspiron 9400.
I got it when they were giving away 3 years warranty for no extra cost.
I'm so glad I did.
I have had 2 hard disks replaced.
(Issue finally fixed when I insisted on a different brand).
I have had a hinge fixed after it broke (no misuse or abnormal use).
I've had 2 screens replaced because they developed large dust bunnies behind the screen.
I've had the CPU fan jam.
It also has a habit of randomly taking 2 minutes to progress through the boot screen.
No idea why.
Dealing with warranty has been a hassle - worst experience was when they didn't show up for 3 appointments in a row.
My wife or I had to be home to deal with it and then they wouldn't show up.
The 3rd time they tried to arrange a technician that was 6 hours away at around 8pm.
Well that wasn't going to work.
But at least I didn't have to pay for parts for this machine.
It's still my last Dell though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277174</id>
	<title>Re:Ok, so Dell sucks.</title>
	<author>WhatAmIDoingHere</author>
	<datestamp>1259585220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For desktops, build your own.  For laptops, it really depends on what you're willing to pay, combined with what features you want.  I've been using a Macbook Pro since late 2006, and I've loved it, though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For desktops , build your own .
For laptops , it really depends on what you 're willing to pay , combined with what features you want .
I 've been using a Macbook Pro since late 2006 , and I 've loved it , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For desktops, build your own.
For laptops, it really depends on what you're willing to pay, combined with what features you want.
I've been using a Macbook Pro since late 2006, and I've loved it, though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276042</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277730</id>
	<title>Re:Silver lining...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259588400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>battery may last 50 hours, but you'll still have 20 minutes remaining on the DVD when the battery dies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>battery may last 50 hours , but you 'll still have 20 minutes remaining on the DVD when the battery dies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>battery may last 50 hours, but you'll still have 20 minutes remaining on the DVD when the battery dies.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30289714</id>
	<title>Re:MIRROR</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259665740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That link returns error, "SigMirror.com Alert: Access Denied!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That link returns error , " SigMirror.com Alert : Access Denied !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That link returns error, "SigMirror.com Alert: Access Denied!
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277376</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276808</id>
	<title>Re:PDF Mirror</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hate rapidshare too but...</p><p><a href="http://rapidshare.com/files/314501404/throttlegate.pdf.html" title="rapidshare.com" rel="nofollow">http://rapidshare.com/files/314501404/throttlegate.pdf.html</a> [rapidshare.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate rapidshare too but...http : //rapidshare.com/files/314501404/throttlegate.pdf.html [ rapidshare.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate rapidshare too but...http://rapidshare.com/files/314501404/throttlegate.pdf.html [rapidshare.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30288482</id>
	<title>Re:Recall = Firmware update</title>
	<author>Gax</author>
	<datestamp>1259660460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I've had a lot of product recalls in my life because I drive a car and I have a baby.</p></div></blockquote><p>I can understand a car recall but a baby? What happened? Did you have to return it to the uterus and get a replacement?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've had a lot of product recalls in my life because I drive a car and I have a baby.I can understand a car recall but a baby ?
What happened ?
Did you have to return it to the uterus and get a replacement ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've had a lot of product recalls in my life because I drive a car and I have a baby.I can understand a car recall but a baby?
What happened?
Did you have to return it to the uterus and get a replacement?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30279196</id>
	<title>Re:OMG, I brought this up with them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259601120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dammit, now I hear my clock.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dammit , now I hear my clock .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dammit, now I hear my clock.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276146</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274818</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259576040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about a nice cup of rage?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about a nice cup of rage ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about a nice cup of rage?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274762</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30278846</id>
	<title>Re:Hasn't been too much of a problem for me..</title>
	<author>level\_headed\_midwest</author>
	<datestamp>1259597760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder if it doesn't have something to do with the fact that the E6400s seem to all run pretty warm. I got the somewhat thicker and considerably less-expensive E5400, which shares the same guts as the Intel IGP versions of the E6400. I suppose the extra thickness of the E5400 allows for a better cooling arrangement as I haven't had this problem at all. The older 65 nm Core 2 Duo T7250 I have in the E5400 (it was the least expensive CPU offered that still had SpeedStep) probably also runs hotter than just about all of the 45 nm Penryn derivatives in the E6400.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if it does n't have something to do with the fact that the E6400s seem to all run pretty warm .
I got the somewhat thicker and considerably less-expensive E5400 , which shares the same guts as the Intel IGP versions of the E6400 .
I suppose the extra thickness of the E5400 allows for a better cooling arrangement as I have n't had this problem at all .
The older 65 nm Core 2 Duo T7250 I have in the E5400 ( it was the least expensive CPU offered that still had SpeedStep ) probably also runs hotter than just about all of the 45 nm Penryn derivatives in the E6400 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if it doesn't have something to do with the fact that the E6400s seem to all run pretty warm.
I got the somewhat thicker and considerably less-expensive E5400, which shares the same guts as the Intel IGP versions of the E6400.
I suppose the extra thickness of the E5400 allows for a better cooling arrangement as I haven't had this problem at all.
The older 65 nm Core 2 Duo T7250 I have in the E5400 (it was the least expensive CPU offered that still had SpeedStep) probably also runs hotter than just about all of the 45 nm Penryn derivatives in the E6400.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274960</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276340</id>
	<title>Re:The E-series has been craptastic all along</title>
	<author>spire3661</author>
	<datestamp>1259581680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My friend brought over an E series latitude laptop the other day. What a piece of trash compared to the D series. I was shocked at how shitty they are. Took out most of the ports so he has to have this weirdo port replicator plugged into the expansion dock, and its not pass through so he has to take it off if he wants to dock at the desk. Its ALL plastic and flexs easily. Just terrible design.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My friend brought over an E series latitude laptop the other day .
What a piece of trash compared to the D series .
I was shocked at how shitty they are .
Took out most of the ports so he has to have this weirdo port replicator plugged into the expansion dock , and its not pass through so he has to take it off if he wants to dock at the desk .
Its ALL plastic and flexs easily .
Just terrible design .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My friend brought over an E series latitude laptop the other day.
What a piece of trash compared to the D series.
I was shocked at how shitty they are.
Took out most of the ports so he has to have this weirdo port replicator plugged into the expansion dock, and its not pass through so he has to take it off if he wants to dock at the desk.
Its ALL plastic and flexs easily.
Just terrible design.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274794</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30281694</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>ThomsonsPier</author>
	<datestamp>1259672340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, if we ever find a real Stargate, and there's an alien scandal of some sort, will that be Stargategate?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , if we ever find a real Stargate , and there 's an alien scandal of some sort , will that be Stargategate ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, if we ever find a real Stargate, and there's an alien scandal of some sort, will that be Stargategate?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277842</id>
	<title>Re:OMG, I brought this up with them</title>
	<author>jtavares2</author>
	<datestamp>1259589120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Won't work-- BIOS of the E6500 states that if you disable speedstep the processor will persist in a low-power state for safety.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wo n't work-- BIOS of the E6500 states that if you disable speedstep the processor will persist in a low-power state for safety .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Won't work-- BIOS of the E6500 states that if you disable speedstep the processor will persist in a low-power state for safety.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276442</id>
	<title>Re:Ok, so Dell sucks.</title>
	<author>Zaphod-AVA</author>
	<datestamp>1259581980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Business systems.</p><p>Systems intended for business use generally come with a 3 year warranty, which increases the quality of the system. If they know it will be their responsibility to fix it if it goes bing in 2.5 years, they must make a more robust system. You will have to pay a little more, but it's worth it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Business systems.Systems intended for business use generally come with a 3 year warranty , which increases the quality of the system .
If they know it will be their responsibility to fix it if it goes bing in 2.5 years , they must make a more robust system .
You will have to pay a little more , but it 's worth it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Business systems.Systems intended for business use generally come with a 3 year warranty, which increases the quality of the system.
If they know it will be their responsibility to fix it if it goes bing in 2.5 years, they must make a more robust system.
You will have to pay a little more, but it's worth it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276042</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274986</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1259576820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>You fool! You've opened the MetaGate!</htmltext>
<tokenext>You fool !
You 've opened the MetaGate !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You fool!
You've opened the MetaGate!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277468</id>
	<title>Re:W00t!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259586660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You Godwin's law folks jump on every thread like Nazi troops on a Jewish family...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You Godwin 's law folks jump on every thread like Nazi troops on a Jewish family.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You Godwin's law folks jump on every thread like Nazi troops on a Jewish family...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276034</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274730</id>
	<title>Scours?</title>
	<author>osomoore</author>
	<datestamp>1259575620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't mean to rub it in, but I think the word is 'scores'.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't mean to rub it in , but I think the word is 'scores' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't mean to rub it in, but I think the word is 'scores'.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30279782</id>
	<title>Re:So... what you say is ...</title>
	<author>countertrolling</author>
	<datestamp>1259606580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, well, most of the time, the system idle process has a real need for speed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , well , most of the time , the system idle process has a real need for speed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, well, most of the time, the system idle process has a real need for speed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275276</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276146</id>
	<title>Re:OMG, I brought this up with them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259580960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Disabling Speed Step and power management/power saving/etc in BIOS and the OS(whatever one is installed) is the very first thing I do on any machine.  I want it at full power all the time.  This also makes it easier to keep my fans at a constant speed as well, which makes for a quieter work environment.  Similar to how a clock ticking is filtered out after a few hours or days, a constant low drone from the PC is as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Disabling Speed Step and power management/power saving/etc in BIOS and the OS ( whatever one is installed ) is the very first thing I do on any machine .
I want it at full power all the time .
This also makes it easier to keep my fans at a constant speed as well , which makes for a quieter work environment .
Similar to how a clock ticking is filtered out after a few hours or days , a constant low drone from the PC is as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Disabling Speed Step and power management/power saving/etc in BIOS and the OS(whatever one is installed) is the very first thing I do on any machine.
I want it at full power all the time.
This also makes it easier to keep my fans at a constant speed as well, which makes for a quieter work environment.
Similar to how a clock ticking is filtered out after a few hours or days, a constant low drone from the PC is as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30279472</id>
	<title>Re:Hasn't been too much of a problem for me..</title>
	<author>smash</author>
	<datestamp>1259603640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I had less problem with 7 than i did with vista on it - with this exact issue.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had less problem with 7 than i did with vista on it - with this exact issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had less problem with 7 than i did with vista on it - with this exact issue.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275120</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30382756</id>
	<title>Re:The E-series has been craptastic all along</title>
	<author>mcohrs</author>
	<datestamp>1259584500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seems the E series is not alone with this problem.  According to Wikipedia, Dell had to settle a class action suit over other super heating laptops a few years ago</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems the E series is not alone with this problem .
According to Wikipedia , Dell had to settle a class action suit over other super heating laptops a few years ago</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems the E series is not alone with this problem.
According to Wikipedia, Dell had to settle a class action suit over other super heating laptops a few years ago</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274794</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30283650</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259685000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Obama gives new Afghan stragey</p></div><p>You're saying he's gonna redecorate the Oval Office with a throw?</p></div><p>Not a throw. He's going for the long haired dog he always wanted!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Obama gives new Afghan strageyYou 're saying he 's gon na redecorate the Oval Office with a throw ? Not a throw .
He 's going for the long haired dog he always wanted !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obama gives new Afghan strageyYou're saying he's gonna redecorate the Oval Office with a throw?Not a throw.
He's going for the long haired dog he always wanted!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275416</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30288126</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>TemporalBeing</author>
	<datestamp>1259659020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Personally BillGate would have been better - it probably is related to Windows after all...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally BillGate would have been better - it probably is related to Windows after all.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally BillGate would have been better - it probably is related to Windows after all...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274762</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274832</id>
	<title>Bad Summary?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259576100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>scours of users</p></div> </blockquote><p>That would be "scores of users", assuming submitter meant to indicate a number equaling or greater than a multiple of twenty. Of course it's hard to say really, as the link provided (the "many message boards" link which links to a single message board) doesn't say anything remotely resembling the claims of the submitter -- it's people complaining about "freeze/lockup".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>scours of users That would be " scores of users " , assuming submitter meant to indicate a number equaling or greater than a multiple of twenty .
Of course it 's hard to say really , as the link provided ( the " many message boards " link which links to a single message board ) does n't say anything remotely resembling the claims of the submitter -- it 's people complaining about " freeze/lockup " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>scours of users That would be "scores of users", assuming submitter meant to indicate a number equaling or greater than a multiple of twenty.
Of course it's hard to say really, as the link provided (the "many message boards" link which links to a single message board) doesn't say anything remotely resembling the claims of the submitter -- it's people complaining about "freeze/lockup".
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276676</id>
	<title>Re:The E-series has been craptastic all along</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1259583000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"At least when the Optiplex GX260 power supplies all failed a few years ago, it was easy enough to fix them. These things are abhorrent."</p><p>When the motherboards failed on GX260s a few years ago, it was a monumental pain in the ass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" At least when the Optiplex GX260 power supplies all failed a few years ago , it was easy enough to fix them .
These things are abhorrent .
" When the motherboards failed on GX260s a few years ago , it was a monumental pain in the ass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"At least when the Optiplex GX260 power supplies all failed a few years ago, it was easy enough to fix them.
These things are abhorrent.
"When the motherboards failed on GX260s a few years ago, it was a monumental pain in the ass.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274794</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277310</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259585880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Worse still, the big scandal about the manner in which people walk through openings in fences.   I believe it was called Gategaitgate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Worse still , the big scandal about the manner in which people walk through openings in fences .
I believe it was called Gategaitgate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Worse still, the big scandal about the manner in which people walk through openings in fences.
I believe it was called Gategaitgate.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277390</id>
	<title>Dude. You're. Getting. A. Dell.</title>
	<author>tautog</author>
	<datestamp>1259586300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds like their spokesman switched to something a little slower...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like their spokesman switched to something a little slower.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like their spokesman switched to something a little slower...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274762</id>
	<title>Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259575800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously, just STFU.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , just STFU .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, just STFU.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30284002</id>
	<title>Re:The E-series has been craptastic all along</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1259686500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>power management firmware seems like it was written by a roomful of meth-addicted monkeys.</i></p><p>Dell takes exception to your statement. In fact, <a href="http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/7/72/Typing\_monkey.jpg" title="nocookie.net">here's a photo</a> [nocookie.net] of their lead power management developer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>power management firmware seems like it was written by a roomful of meth-addicted monkeys.Dell takes exception to your statement .
In fact , here 's a photo [ nocookie.net ] of their lead power management developer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>power management firmware seems like it was written by a roomful of meth-addicted monkeys.Dell takes exception to your statement.
In fact, here's a photo [nocookie.net] of their lead power management developer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274794</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275622</id>
	<title>100Mhz?</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1259579220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is just the perceived speed of Windows Vista running at 2.2Ghz</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is just the perceived speed of Windows Vista running at 2.2Ghz</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is just the perceived speed of Windows Vista running at 2.2Ghz</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30307100</id>
	<title>Re:Recall = Firmware update</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259598240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>except its been over a year since this laptop model came out and the same problem still persists. Just because they release A18 on 12/1 does not mean the problem wont come back the same or in a diff form within weeks.. then they claim it is a seperate issue and it takes another year and a 59 page BANNED report on the issue. are you a moron? RECALL = DEATH for dell<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. its money lost u fool. ever hear of business school? avoid recall at all costs.. including F'ing their customers</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>except its been over a year since this laptop model came out and the same problem still persists .
Just because they release A18 on 12/1 does not mean the problem wont come back the same or in a diff form within weeks.. then they claim it is a seperate issue and it takes another year and a 59 page BANNED report on the issue .
are you a moron ?
RECALL = DEATH for dell .. its money lost u fool .
ever hear of business school ?
avoid recall at all costs.. including F'ing their customers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>except its been over a year since this laptop model came out and the same problem still persists.
Just because they release A18 on 12/1 does not mean the problem wont come back the same or in a diff form within weeks.. then they claim it is a seperate issue and it takes another year and a 59 page BANNED report on the issue.
are you a moron?
RECALL = DEATH for dell .. its money lost u fool.
ever hear of business school?
avoid recall at all costs.. including F'ing their customers</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275564</id>
	<title>I have a E6400, how do I test this?</title>
	<author>abshnasko</author>
	<datestamp>1259579040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have an E6400 with the Nvidia option; how can I test to see if my laptop is throttling the CPU too low? (I run linux)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an E6400 with the Nvidia option ; how can I test to see if my laptop is throttling the CPU too low ?
( I run linux )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an E6400 with the Nvidia option; how can I test to see if my laptop is throttling the CPU too low?
(I run linux)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275370</id>
	<title>Re:Hasn't been too much of a problem for me..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259578380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, but how's the shift key working?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , but how 's the shift key working ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, but how's the shift key working?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275120</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275058</id>
	<title>class action</title>
	<author>Lord Ender</author>
	<datestamp>1259577120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Step one: speak to class action lawyers</p><p>Step two: subpoena contact info for everyone who bought these</p><p>Step three: contact a subset of the owners to see if the failure rate is high enough to justify a suit</p><p>Step four: profit?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Step one : speak to class action lawyersStep two : subpoena contact info for everyone who bought theseStep three : contact a subset of the owners to see if the failure rate is high enough to justify a suitStep four : profit ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Step one: speak to class action lawyersStep two: subpoena contact info for everyone who bought theseStep three: contact a subset of the owners to see if the failure rate is high enough to justify a suitStep four: profit?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30320170</id>
	<title>Dell's Response</title>
	<author>atomic-penguin</author>
	<datestamp>1259854740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Response on the Direct2Dell community blog.</p><p><a href="http://en.community.dell.com/blogs/direct2dell/archive/2009/12/02/dell-on-laptops-and-throttling.aspx" title="dell.com">http://en.community.dell.com/blogs/direct2dell/archive/2009/12/02/dell-on-laptops-and-throttling.aspx</a> [dell.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Response on the Direct2Dell community blog.http : //en.community.dell.com/blogs/direct2dell/archive/2009/12/02/dell-on-laptops-and-throttling.aspx [ dell.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Response on the Direct2Dell community blog.http://en.community.dell.com/blogs/direct2dell/archive/2009/12/02/dell-on-laptops-and-throttling.aspx [dell.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276796</id>
	<title>Re:FTW</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Learn to spell "its", darn it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Learn to spell " its " , darn it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Learn to spell "its", darn it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274778</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274728</id>
	<title>scours of users</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259575620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hope they're scourged thoroughly.<br> <br>
I'd happily scour a user.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hope they 're scourged thoroughly .
I 'd happily scour a user .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hope they're scourged thoroughly.
I'd happily scour a user.
:-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277170</id>
	<title>Not surprising</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259585160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an Inspiron E1505 laptop with an out of control fan.  The speeds are hardwired into the BIOS and cannot be changed.  (And yes, i8kutils does not solve this)</p><p>Think of it this way, by throttling down the CPU (or keeping the fan running on high in my case) it would seem they are trying to keep warranty repairs down and save themselves some money.  However, in this case, it seems they screwed up with their throttling attempt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an Inspiron E1505 laptop with an out of control fan .
The speeds are hardwired into the BIOS and can not be changed .
( And yes , i8kutils does not solve this ) Think of it this way , by throttling down the CPU ( or keeping the fan running on high in my case ) it would seem they are trying to keep warranty repairs down and save themselves some money .
However , in this case , it seems they screwed up with their throttling attempt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an Inspiron E1505 laptop with an out of control fan.
The speeds are hardwired into the BIOS and cannot be changed.
(And yes, i8kutils does not solve this)Think of it this way, by throttling down the CPU (or keeping the fan running on high in my case) it would seem they are trying to keep warranty repairs down and save themselves some money.
However, in this case, it seems they screwed up with their throttling attempt.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30280210</id>
	<title>Re:Non-public information?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259699100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi, you must not be a Windows user, huh?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi , you must not be a Windows user , huh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi, you must not be a Windows user, huh?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275358</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276272</id>
	<title>My experience and fix. Isn't 59 pages long.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259581440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dell has aggressive CPU throttling in the BIOS. I have an Inspiron 6400 w/ Core 2 Duo 1.83ghz. In XP, Vista, and 7, it would throttle way the heck down and not turn the fan all the way up. Because the fan was annoying. It would go down to around 200mhz.</p><p>I fixed it in software by installing RMClock and i8kspeedfan. But my computer was usually around 55 and went up to 65 playing HD video, and the fan would kick in, and suddenly it's really loud.</p><p>Also helped to get one of those cooling pads with a fan in it.</p><p>So I took apart my laptop. There were 1" thick sheets of dust between the processor and graphics coolers and then between them and the output duct.</p><p>Cleaning them out, put it back together, now at full speed it rarely goes over 55. The BIOS throttling that kicks in at 70C or 75C or so hasn't come on since the software fix. Don't even need the Targus cool-pad anymore.</p><p>So basically, Dell builds a system with inadequate cooling, that is disabled from maximum speed even when system policy is set that way, and instead throttles you down in the BIOS 'til you can't even move the mouse until it cools down. No option to allow the fan to go to full-speed, no way to do it except 3rd-party software, and really darned loud when it happens.</p><p>It must've sucked to have a 2.3GHz in this thing...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dell has aggressive CPU throttling in the BIOS .
I have an Inspiron 6400 w/ Core 2 Duo 1.83ghz .
In XP , Vista , and 7 , it would throttle way the heck down and not turn the fan all the way up .
Because the fan was annoying .
It would go down to around 200mhz.I fixed it in software by installing RMClock and i8kspeedfan .
But my computer was usually around 55 and went up to 65 playing HD video , and the fan would kick in , and suddenly it 's really loud.Also helped to get one of those cooling pads with a fan in it.So I took apart my laptop .
There were 1 " thick sheets of dust between the processor and graphics coolers and then between them and the output duct.Cleaning them out , put it back together , now at full speed it rarely goes over 55 .
The BIOS throttling that kicks in at 70C or 75C or so has n't come on since the software fix .
Do n't even need the Targus cool-pad anymore.So basically , Dell builds a system with inadequate cooling , that is disabled from maximum speed even when system policy is set that way , and instead throttles you down in the BIOS 'til you ca n't even move the mouse until it cools down .
No option to allow the fan to go to full-speed , no way to do it except 3rd-party software , and really darned loud when it happens.It must 've sucked to have a 2.3GHz in this thing.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dell has aggressive CPU throttling in the BIOS.
I have an Inspiron 6400 w/ Core 2 Duo 1.83ghz.
In XP, Vista, and 7, it would throttle way the heck down and not turn the fan all the way up.
Because the fan was annoying.
It would go down to around 200mhz.I fixed it in software by installing RMClock and i8kspeedfan.
But my computer was usually around 55 and went up to 65 playing HD video, and the fan would kick in, and suddenly it's really loud.Also helped to get one of those cooling pads with a fan in it.So I took apart my laptop.
There were 1" thick sheets of dust between the processor and graphics coolers and then between them and the output duct.Cleaning them out, put it back together, now at full speed it rarely goes over 55.
The BIOS throttling that kicks in at 70C or 75C or so hasn't come on since the software fix.
Don't even need the Targus cool-pad anymore.So basically, Dell builds a system with inadequate cooling, that is disabled from maximum speed even when system policy is set that way, and instead throttles you down in the BIOS 'til you can't even move the mouse until it cools down.
No option to allow the fan to go to full-speed, no way to do it except 3rd-party software, and really darned loud when it happens.It must've sucked to have a 2.3GHz in this thing...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276042</id>
	<title>Ok, so Dell sucks.</title>
	<author>jayme0227</author>
	<datestamp>1259580660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now where do I shop for a PC? This is a serious question. For all the faults of Dell, I've had nothing but positive experiences with them, and, if nothing else, they at least warranty your computer for a year. Even so, they do seem to be at the end of the line as far as putting out quality product.</p><p>I've never had any luck with computers out of a box and I lack the skillset to put a PC together myself. Since the reviews online often are conflicting from site to site (and half of them read more like paid advertisements), I find myself kind of lost at this point. Where can I go to find a quality Windows PC?</p><p>PS. Your jokes are all very funny. Quality Windows PCs don't exist, buy a Mac, run Linux. I'm laughing in anticipation so you don't even have to show off your incredible wit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now where do I shop for a PC ?
This is a serious question .
For all the faults of Dell , I 've had nothing but positive experiences with them , and , if nothing else , they at least warranty your computer for a year .
Even so , they do seem to be at the end of the line as far as putting out quality product.I 've never had any luck with computers out of a box and I lack the skillset to put a PC together myself .
Since the reviews online often are conflicting from site to site ( and half of them read more like paid advertisements ) , I find myself kind of lost at this point .
Where can I go to find a quality Windows PC ? PS .
Your jokes are all very funny .
Quality Windows PCs do n't exist , buy a Mac , run Linux .
I 'm laughing in anticipation so you do n't even have to show off your incredible wit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now where do I shop for a PC?
This is a serious question.
For all the faults of Dell, I've had nothing but positive experiences with them, and, if nothing else, they at least warranty your computer for a year.
Even so, they do seem to be at the end of the line as far as putting out quality product.I've never had any luck with computers out of a box and I lack the skillset to put a PC together myself.
Since the reviews online often are conflicting from site to site (and half of them read more like paid advertisements), I find myself kind of lost at this point.
Where can I go to find a quality Windows PC?PS.
Your jokes are all very funny.
Quality Windows PCs don't exist, buy a Mac, run Linux.
I'm laughing in anticipation so you don't even have to show off your incredible wit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274960</id>
	<title>Hasn't been too much of a problem for me..</title>
	<author>Cougar333</author>
	<datestamp>1259576760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My E6400 C2D 2.8 has done this a couple times. (Almost unresponsive with 100\% CPU usage for no reason) Haven't had the problem since BIOS update; It's nice to see this problem being more and more acknowledged .</htmltext>
<tokenext>My E6400 C2D 2.8 has done this a couple times .
( Almost unresponsive with 100 \ % CPU usage for no reason ) Have n't had the problem since BIOS update ; It 's nice to see this problem being more and more acknowledged .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My E6400 C2D 2.8 has done this a couple times.
(Almost unresponsive with 100\% CPU usage for no reason) Haven't had the problem since BIOS update; It's nice to see this problem being more and more acknowledged .</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275998</id>
	<title>throttle throat?</title>
	<author>buckadude</author>
	<datestamp>1259580480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>was there an anon tip dropped by a person only known as throttle throat?</htmltext>
<tokenext>was there an anon tip dropped by a person only known as throttle throat ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>was there an anon tip dropped by a person only known as throttle throat?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277376</id>
	<title>MIRROR</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259586180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I click on the link and well, I think it's being hosted by one of these Dells</p></div><p>At the end of one of the forums, someone links to a mirror.  You can find the report here:</p><p><a href="http://www.sigmirror.com/files/44490\_iweoz/throttlegate.pdf" title="sigmirror.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sigmirror.com/files/44490\_iweoz/throttlegate.pdf</a> [sigmirror.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I click on the link and well , I think it 's being hosted by one of these DellsAt the end of one of the forums , someone links to a mirror .
You can find the report here : http : //www.sigmirror.com/files/44490 \ _iweoz/throttlegate.pdf [ sigmirror.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I click on the link and well, I think it's being hosted by one of these DellsAt the end of one of the forums, someone links to a mirror.
You can find the report here:http://www.sigmirror.com/files/44490\_iweoz/throttlegate.pdf [sigmirror.com]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274746</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30278474</id>
	<title>Re:Recall when hell freezes over</title>
	<author>Johnno74</author>
	<datestamp>1259594880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dell make good stuff, and crap stuff.  I'd never touch the inspiron series, but I've had a couple of latitudes and I've been very happy.  Both of them came with 3-year worldwide onsite warranties, and yes I used them. Both laptops had their screens and motherboards replaced at some point, but it was no drama.  Call dell and the next day or the day after a technician arrived to swap them out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dell make good stuff , and crap stuff .
I 'd never touch the inspiron series , but I 've had a couple of latitudes and I 've been very happy .
Both of them came with 3-year worldwide onsite warranties , and yes I used them .
Both laptops had their screens and motherboards replaced at some point , but it was no drama .
Call dell and the next day or the day after a technician arrived to swap them out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dell make good stuff, and crap stuff.
I'd never touch the inspiron series, but I've had a couple of latitudes and I've been very happy.
Both of them came with 3-year worldwide onsite warranties, and yes I used them.
Both laptops had their screens and motherboards replaced at some point, but it was no drama.
Call dell and the next day or the day after a technician arrived to swap them out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276584</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274984</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1259576820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Seriously, just STFU.</i>
<br>
<br>
Hey, it's apparently important enough to write a 56 page report...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , just STFU .
Hey , it 's apparently important enough to write a 56 page report.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, just STFU.
Hey, it's apparently important enough to write a 56 page report...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274762</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277544</id>
	<title>Re:Many users are hoping for a formal recall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259587200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>You jest, but I actually think that turbo buttons would be a great idea on laptops.  Sure, you can throttle the CPU using software to save power, but a button would just be easier, and would have miles of old-skool charm.  Bring back the turbo button!</htmltext>
<tokenext>You jest , but I actually think that turbo buttons would be a great idea on laptops .
Sure , you can throttle the CPU using software to save power , but a button would just be easier , and would have miles of old-skool charm .
Bring back the turbo button !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You jest, but I actually think that turbo buttons would be a great idea on laptops.
Sure, you can throttle the CPU using software to save power, but a button would just be easier, and would have miles of old-skool charm.
Bring back the turbo button!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274770</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30278076</id>
	<title>XPS?</title>
	<author>shevsky</author>
	<datestamp>1259591040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm quite certain this happens to me.. on my Dell XPS laptop. It seems to describe exactly what I've found. My laptop has the specs to run most games, but craps up on simple video and runs everything only at minimum settings, even right out of the box.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm quite certain this happens to me.. on my Dell XPS laptop .
It seems to describe exactly what I 've found .
My laptop has the specs to run most games , but craps up on simple video and runs everything only at minimum settings , even right out of the box .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm quite certain this happens to me.. on my Dell XPS laptop.
It seems to describe exactly what I've found.
My laptop has the specs to run most games, but craps up on simple video and runs everything only at minimum settings, even right out of the box.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277440</id>
	<title>Dell D600</title>
	<author>hajma</author>
	<datestamp>1259586600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have the same with a D600, machine from 2001. Disabling Speedstep in the bios locks the CPU down to 600MHz, i.e. unusable.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have the same with a D600 , machine from 2001 .
Disabling Speedstep in the bios locks the CPU down to 600MHz , i.e .
unusable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have the same with a D600, machine from 2001.
Disabling Speedstep in the bios locks the CPU down to 600MHz, i.e.
unusable.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277798</id>
	<title>Re:Post on Dell's forums</title>
	<author>brxndxn</author>
	<datestamp>1259588880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I started ordering E6400 and M4400 (almost identical in design) laptops for the employees at my company. Most of the laptops seem to work fine - albeit very slow compared to how they 'should' run. One of the laptops works perfectly stable but runs slow as all hell.. It can barely launch a single virtual machine. The poor guy that uses it is constantly frustrated.. Dell insists it is 'perfect' since it passes all the evaluation tests.</p><p>I would definitely say they barely perform better than the 2.0ghz D820's and 1.7ghz IBM T41p's that they replaced..</p><p>Guess I need to call up my Dell rep and complain... Sigh.. half my job.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I started ordering E6400 and M4400 ( almost identical in design ) laptops for the employees at my company .
Most of the laptops seem to work fine - albeit very slow compared to how they 'should ' run .
One of the laptops works perfectly stable but runs slow as all hell.. It can barely launch a single virtual machine .
The poor guy that uses it is constantly frustrated.. Dell insists it is 'perfect ' since it passes all the evaluation tests.I would definitely say they barely perform better than the 2.0ghz D820 's and 1.7ghz IBM T41p 's that they replaced..Guess I need to call up my Dell rep and complain... Sigh.. half my job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I started ordering E6400 and M4400 (almost identical in design) laptops for the employees at my company.
Most of the laptops seem to work fine - albeit very slow compared to how they 'should' run.
One of the laptops works perfectly stable but runs slow as all hell.. It can barely launch a single virtual machine.
The poor guy that uses it is constantly frustrated.. Dell insists it is 'perfect' since it passes all the evaluation tests.I would definitely say they barely perform better than the 2.0ghz D820's and 1.7ghz IBM T41p's that they replaced..Guess I need to call up my Dell rep and complain... Sigh.. half my job.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275002</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275266</id>
	<title>Re:The E-series has been craptastic all along</title>
	<author>Lord Byron Eee PC</author>
	<datestamp>1259578080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm lost. Doesn't Dell take a standard Intel/AMD CPU and pair it with a standard Intel/VIA/SIS/Nvidia chipset? What is there to go wrong? I can understand if the thing is improperly cooled, but beyond that, aren't they just selling us the same crap that HP/Lenovo/your pick are, but inside a Dell laptop case?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm lost .
Does n't Dell take a standard Intel/AMD CPU and pair it with a standard Intel/VIA/SIS/Nvidia chipset ?
What is there to go wrong ?
I can understand if the thing is improperly cooled , but beyond that , are n't they just selling us the same crap that HP/Lenovo/your pick are , but inside a Dell laptop case ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm lost.
Doesn't Dell take a standard Intel/AMD CPU and pair it with a standard Intel/VIA/SIS/Nvidia chipset?
What is there to go wrong?
I can understand if the thing is improperly cooled, but beyond that, aren't they just selling us the same crap that HP/Lenovo/your pick are, but inside a Dell laptop case?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274794</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277418</id>
	<title>Glad that this is getting more press</title>
	<author>one4spl</author>
	<datestamp>1259586480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My E6500 suffers from this issue exactly as described... unfortunately I bought a refurbished machine that no longer has any warranty so i have no leverage with Dell to get it fixed.

The machine is basically unusable in the dock in a room with an ambient temperature over 25deg C.

I've tried all the suggested fixes to no avail.

Running a hacked up CPU tool isn't something I'm particularly keen on.

I see no reason for Dell not to re-design the BIOS so that it runs the machine much, much hotter before it throttles, particularly when docked.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My E6500 suffers from this issue exactly as described... unfortunately I bought a refurbished machine that no longer has any warranty so i have no leverage with Dell to get it fixed .
The machine is basically unusable in the dock in a room with an ambient temperature over 25deg C . I 've tried all the suggested fixes to no avail .
Running a hacked up CPU tool is n't something I 'm particularly keen on .
I see no reason for Dell not to re-design the BIOS so that it runs the machine much , much hotter before it throttles , particularly when docked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My E6500 suffers from this issue exactly as described... unfortunately I bought a refurbished machine that no longer has any warranty so i have no leverage with Dell to get it fixed.
The machine is basically unusable in the dock in a room with an ambient temperature over 25deg C.

I've tried all the suggested fixes to no avail.
Running a hacked up CPU tool isn't something I'm particularly keen on.
I see no reason for Dell not to re-design the BIOS so that it runs the machine much, much hotter before it throttles, particularly when docked.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275990</id>
	<title>Recall = Firmware update</title>
	<author>torklugnutz</author>
	<datestamp>1259580480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People get too excited about product recalls. It just means the manufacturer has to eliminate or at least mitigate the failure. In this case, Dell will issue Firmware A.02 or whatever and the problem will vanish. Not a big deal.</p><p>I've had a lot of product recalls in my life because I drive a car and I have a baby. Apart from a few rare instances from Kodak and Honda, this doesn't mean the consumer gets a full refund and all of the products wind up in a landfill.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People get too excited about product recalls .
It just means the manufacturer has to eliminate or at least mitigate the failure .
In this case , Dell will issue Firmware A.02 or whatever and the problem will vanish .
Not a big deal.I 've had a lot of product recalls in my life because I drive a car and I have a baby .
Apart from a few rare instances from Kodak and Honda , this does n't mean the consumer gets a full refund and all of the products wind up in a landfill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People get too excited about product recalls.
It just means the manufacturer has to eliminate or at least mitigate the failure.
In this case, Dell will issue Firmware A.02 or whatever and the problem will vanish.
Not a big deal.I've had a lot of product recalls in my life because I drive a car and I have a baby.
Apart from a few rare instances from Kodak and Honda, this doesn't mean the consumer gets a full refund and all of the products wind up in a landfill.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30278000</id>
	<title>Re:Ok, so Dell sucks.</title>
	<author>jo42</author>
	<datestamp>1259590260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I've had nothing but positive experiences with them</p></div><p>Ha! I wish...</p><p>1) Cold standby Dell PowerEdge 2850 server refusing to power up after sitting idle (i.e. off) for a couple of months. It was only a couple of months old and idling in a real data center.</p><p>2) All six 'enterprise grade' SCSI SCA hard drives in another Dell PowerEdge 2850 failing one after another in a period of three weeks. It was only six months old and living in a real data center.</p><p>3) Dell Inspiron 6400 dying just inside the warranty period. Dell returns the laptop with a 120GB hard drive and 1GB of RAM when it was originally ordered, shipped and received with a 160GB drive and 2GB of RAM. Ooopsy! where did that disk and memory go?</p><p>4) Change the shipping address on personal account via the Dell web site order system. Place an order right after changing the shipping address. Order system pulls out and puts in the <b>old</b> address instead of the new one. Immediately call Dell to have the shipping address changed to the billing (i.e. correct) address. Person in India says no problem, he will fix it. Order never shows up. Call Dell. Another person in India tells me they don't fix the shipping address (even to the billing address) due to "security" reasons. After more phone calls, she person in India tells me they will refund the order to the credit card due to loss of shipment. Dell never refunds the order amount. Lesson learned: Dell Customer Service outright lies to the customer.</p><p>Over the last few years, I've bought well over $1 million worth of Dell laptops, desktops, servers and monitors for various customers. And you still get fucked around by them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've had nothing but positive experiences with themHa !
I wish...1 ) Cold standby Dell PowerEdge 2850 server refusing to power up after sitting idle ( i.e .
off ) for a couple of months .
It was only a couple of months old and idling in a real data center.2 ) All six 'enterprise grade ' SCSI SCA hard drives in another Dell PowerEdge 2850 failing one after another in a period of three weeks .
It was only six months old and living in a real data center.3 ) Dell Inspiron 6400 dying just inside the warranty period .
Dell returns the laptop with a 120GB hard drive and 1GB of RAM when it was originally ordered , shipped and received with a 160GB drive and 2GB of RAM .
Ooopsy ! where did that disk and memory go ? 4 ) Change the shipping address on personal account via the Dell web site order system .
Place an order right after changing the shipping address .
Order system pulls out and puts in the old address instead of the new one .
Immediately call Dell to have the shipping address changed to the billing ( i.e .
correct ) address .
Person in India says no problem , he will fix it .
Order never shows up .
Call Dell .
Another person in India tells me they do n't fix the shipping address ( even to the billing address ) due to " security " reasons .
After more phone calls , she person in India tells me they will refund the order to the credit card due to loss of shipment .
Dell never refunds the order amount .
Lesson learned : Dell Customer Service outright lies to the customer.Over the last few years , I 've bought well over $ 1 million worth of Dell laptops , desktops , servers and monitors for various customers .
And you still get fucked around by them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've had nothing but positive experiences with themHa!
I wish...1) Cold standby Dell PowerEdge 2850 server refusing to power up after sitting idle (i.e.
off) for a couple of months.
It was only a couple of months old and idling in a real data center.2) All six 'enterprise grade' SCSI SCA hard drives in another Dell PowerEdge 2850 failing one after another in a period of three weeks.
It was only six months old and living in a real data center.3) Dell Inspiron 6400 dying just inside the warranty period.
Dell returns the laptop with a 120GB hard drive and 1GB of RAM when it was originally ordered, shipped and received with a 160GB drive and 2GB of RAM.
Ooopsy! where did that disk and memory go?4) Change the shipping address on personal account via the Dell web site order system.
Place an order right after changing the shipping address.
Order system pulls out and puts in the old address instead of the new one.
Immediately call Dell to have the shipping address changed to the billing (i.e.
correct) address.
Person in India says no problem, he will fix it.
Order never shows up.
Call Dell.
Another person in India tells me they don't fix the shipping address (even to the billing address) due to "security" reasons.
After more phone calls, she person in India tells me they will refund the order to the credit card due to loss of shipment.
Dell never refunds the order amount.
Lesson learned: Dell Customer Service outright lies to the customer.Over the last few years, I've bought well over $1 million worth of Dell laptops, desktops, servers and monitors for various customers.
And you still get fucked around by them.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276042</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30278648</id>
	<title>It's a dell, what did ou expect?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259596200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a dell, what did ou expect?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a dell , what did ou expect ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a dell, what did ou expect?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275276</id>
	<title>So... what you say is ...</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1259578140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So do I get this right? As soon as I actually need my CPU to do some work, it starts to slow down? While it's quite able to run at full speed as long as it's idle and not doing anything sensible?</p><p>Computers get more and more human every day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So do I get this right ?
As soon as I actually need my CPU to do some work , it starts to slow down ?
While it 's quite able to run at full speed as long as it 's idle and not doing anything sensible ? Computers get more and more human every day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So do I get this right?
As soon as I actually need my CPU to do some work, it starts to slow down?
While it's quite able to run at full speed as long as it's idle and not doing anything sensible?Computers get more and more human every day.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275776</id>
	<title>Similar Issue with Studio 1555</title>
	<author>freakyfreak2</author>
	<datestamp>1259579760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've had similar issues with my Dell Studio 1555 laptop. Even in maximum performance mode and everything in windows power management settings tweaked to the max my CPU constantly is running at 25-50\% max. Even when running cpu intensive tasks like video encoding it will rarely jump to the actual frequency. I have a Core 2 Duo T9600 6MB cache 2.8ghz max but likes to run around 1.1ghz.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've had similar issues with my Dell Studio 1555 laptop .
Even in maximum performance mode and everything in windows power management settings tweaked to the max my CPU constantly is running at 25-50 \ % max .
Even when running cpu intensive tasks like video encoding it will rarely jump to the actual frequency .
I have a Core 2 Duo T9600 6MB cache 2.8ghz max but likes to run around 1.1ghz .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've had similar issues with my Dell Studio 1555 laptop.
Even in maximum performance mode and everything in windows power management settings tweaked to the max my CPU constantly is running at 25-50\% max.
Even when running cpu intensive tasks like video encoding it will rarely jump to the actual frequency.
I have a Core 2 Duo T9600 6MB cache 2.8ghz max but likes to run around 1.1ghz.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30278320</id>
	<title>Re:PDF Mirror</title>
	<author>mariushm</author>
	<datestamp>1259593080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's an "<a href="http://www.definethis.org/temp/throttlegate\_optimized.pdf" title="definethis.org">optimized for web version</a> [definethis.org]" (5 MB, pics resampled to 150 dpi)  and the <a href="http://www.definethis.org/temp/throttlegate.pdf" title="definethis.org">original</a> [definethis.org] version.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's an " optimized for web version [ definethis.org ] " ( 5 MB , pics resampled to 150 dpi ) and the original [ definethis.org ] version .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's an "optimized for web version [definethis.org]" (5 MB, pics resampled to 150 dpi)  and the original [definethis.org] version.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30282904</id>
	<title>Re:Not the first time Dells have underperformed</title>
	<author>Chicken04GTO</author>
	<datestamp>1259681700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sure there is, you just weren't aware of it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure there is , you just were n't aware of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure there is, you just weren't aware of it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277904</id>
	<title>Re:Post on Dell's forums</title>
	<author>LordLimecat</author>
	<datestamp>1259589420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1. The problem is NOT an overheating problem - the system simply does not overheat. It is due to premature and overly aggressive attempts at thermal control, invoked at what are NORMAL processor operating temperatures (65-80 Celsius), possibly due to faulty ACPI "passive cooling" parameter definitions and/or control methods.</p></div><p>65-80c is NORMAL?  According to <a href="http://www.pantherproducts.co.uk/Articles/CPU/CPU\%20Temperatures.shtml" title="pantherproducts.co.uk">this</a> [pantherproducts.co.uk], 80 is a "critical temperature" for most processors.  Not what id call normal.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
The problem is NOT an overheating problem - the system simply does not overheat .
It is due to premature and overly aggressive attempts at thermal control , invoked at what are NORMAL processor operating temperatures ( 65-80 Celsius ) , possibly due to faulty ACPI " passive cooling " parameter definitions and/or control methods.65-80c is NORMAL ?
According to this [ pantherproducts.co.uk ] , 80 is a " critical temperature " for most processors .
Not what id call normal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
The problem is NOT an overheating problem - the system simply does not overheat.
It is due to premature and overly aggressive attempts at thermal control, invoked at what are NORMAL processor operating temperatures (65-80 Celsius), possibly due to faulty ACPI "passive cooling" parameter definitions and/or control methods.65-80c is NORMAL?
According to this [pantherproducts.co.uk], 80 is a "critical temperature" for most processors.
Not what id call normal.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275002</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277090</id>
	<title>Re:Ok, so Dell sucks.</title>
	<author>argent</author>
	<datestamp>1259584740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The biggest problem for desktops are custom interfaces and components that make self-repair impossible. The ideal solution is build-your-own.</p><p>Options:</p><p>* Build your own using a quality motherboard like ASUS.<br>* Get a screwdriver shop like Directron or MWave to build you one.<br>* Many HP Pavilions seem to be pretty much "build your owns" using HP motherboards, if you want a name brand.</p><p>For laptops, Thinkpads have the warmest place in my heart, but HP and Toshiba also make decent products, Sony makes great boutique laptops, and ASUS (see above) are making laptops now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The biggest problem for desktops are custom interfaces and components that make self-repair impossible .
The ideal solution is build-your-own.Options : * Build your own using a quality motherboard like ASUS .
* Get a screwdriver shop like Directron or MWave to build you one .
* Many HP Pavilions seem to be pretty much " build your owns " using HP motherboards , if you want a name brand.For laptops , Thinkpads have the warmest place in my heart , but HP and Toshiba also make decent products , Sony makes great boutique laptops , and ASUS ( see above ) are making laptops now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The biggest problem for desktops are custom interfaces and components that make self-repair impossible.
The ideal solution is build-your-own.Options:* Build your own using a quality motherboard like ASUS.
* Get a screwdriver shop like Directron or MWave to build you one.
* Many HP Pavilions seem to be pretty much "build your owns" using HP motherboards, if you want a name brand.For laptops, Thinkpads have the warmest place in my heart, but HP and Toshiba also make decent products, Sony makes great boutique laptops, and ASUS (see above) are making laptops now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276042</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30285414</id>
	<title>Re:MIRROR</title>
	<author>citricshooter</author>
	<datestamp>1259692620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You'll need an account to view this, or the owner needs to make it public.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 'll need an account to view this , or the owner needs to make it public .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You'll need an account to view this, or the owner needs to make it public.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277376</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30278838</id>
	<title>Re:Many users are hoping for a formal recall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259597760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I hear Dell is planning to issue a complimentary turbo button for any user experiencing the problem.</p></div><p>No, they are sending each owner a sample of the high speed comcast uses, lol!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hear Dell is planning to issue a complimentary turbo button for any user experiencing the problem.No , they are sending each owner a sample of the high speed comcast uses , lol !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hear Dell is planning to issue a complimentary turbo button for any user experiencing the problem.No, they are sending each owner a sample of the high speed comcast uses, lol!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274770</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30278058</id>
	<title>Re:FTW</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259590800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, "Energy Star Compliance at it is Best". Your words.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , " Energy Star Compliance at it is Best " .
Your words .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, "Energy Star Compliance at it is Best".
Your words.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274778</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30279664</id>
	<title>Re:Post on Dell's forums</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259605560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The problem is NOT an overheating problem - the system simply does not overheat.</p></div></blockquote><p>It is unable to.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is NOT an overheating problem - the system simply does not overheat.It is unable to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is NOT an overheating problem - the system simply does not overheat.It is unable to.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275002</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275158</id>
	<title>Turbo button</title>
	<author>oldhack</author>
	<datestamp>1259577540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They must have connected the turbo button backward.  Happens sometimes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They must have connected the turbo button backward .
Happens sometimes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They must have connected the turbo button backward.
Happens sometimes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30279458</id>
	<title>Re:So... what you say is ...</title>
	<author>AmberBlackCat</author>
	<datestamp>1259603460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As soon as I actually need my CPU to do some work, it starts to slow down? While it's quite able to run at full speed as long as it's idle and not doing anything sensible?</p></div><p>Are we talking about processors or Internet Service Providers?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As soon as I actually need my CPU to do some work , it starts to slow down ?
While it 's quite able to run at full speed as long as it 's idle and not doing anything sensible ? Are we talking about processors or Internet Service Providers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As soon as I actually need my CPU to do some work, it starts to slow down?
While it's quite able to run at full speed as long as it's idle and not doing anything sensible?Are we talking about processors or Internet Service Providers?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275276</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275168</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259577600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll send you to Hell's Gates if you don't stop whining.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll send you to Hell 's Gates if you do n't stop whining .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll send you to Hell's Gates if you don't stop whining.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30280664</id>
	<title>Re:Many users are hoping for a formal recall</title>
	<author>cerberusss</author>
	<datestamp>1259661360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd rather have a CPU-frequency governor which scales up as soon as I run Flash or transform a photo or whatever, not having to press a turbo button.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd rather have a CPU-frequency governor which scales up as soon as I run Flash or transform a photo or whatever , not having to press a turbo button .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd rather have a CPU-frequency governor which scales up as soon as I run Flash or transform a photo or whatever, not having to press a turbo button.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277544</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275972</id>
	<title>Dell  Precision M4300</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259580420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a similar problem on my dell laptop, if it's doing CPU intensive tasks and overheats - it will go into slow mode - fair enough.  But it will stay there - no matter what I do - except restart.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a similar problem on my dell laptop , if it 's doing CPU intensive tasks and overheats - it will go into slow mode - fair enough .
But it will stay there - no matter what I do - except restart .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a similar problem on my dell laptop, if it's doing CPU intensive tasks and overheats - it will go into slow mode - fair enough.
But it will stay there - no matter what I do - except restart.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274700</id>
	<title>First Post</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259575560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Comes a bit slower at 100 MHz.  I'll probably get second or third, damn Dell laptop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Comes a bit slower at 100 MHz .
I 'll probably get second or third , damn Dell laptop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Comes a bit slower at 100 MHz.
I'll probably get second or third, damn Dell laptop.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275826</id>
	<title>Re:The E-series has been craptastic all along</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259579940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which sucks. Other than the thinkpad line (which has also been going downhill in quality) Dell's E series are the only laptops out there with a trackpoint.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which sucks .
Other than the thinkpad line ( which has also been going downhill in quality ) Dell 's E series are the only laptops out there with a trackpoint .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which sucks.
Other than the thinkpad line (which has also been going downhill in quality) Dell's E series are the only laptops out there with a trackpoint.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274794</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275068</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>mewsenews</author>
	<datestamp>1259577180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh, cmon, it's exactly like Watergate. Except completely different.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , cmon , it 's exactly like Watergate .
Except completely different .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, cmon, it's exactly like Watergate.
Except completely different.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274762</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30280526</id>
	<title>Re:Recall = Firmware update</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259659680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wonder, why they recalled the baby. What was wrong with it ? O\_o</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wonder , why they recalled the baby .
What was wrong with it ?
O \ _o</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wonder, why they recalled the baby.
What was wrong with it ?
O\_o</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275990</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277364</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259586180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think HATEGATE is more appropriate</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think HATEGATE is more appropriate</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think HATEGATE is more appropriate</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274866</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276124</id>
	<title>Screenshots - I had this problem!</title>
	<author>Syn Ack</author>
	<datestamp>1259580900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got one of these notebooks.  They've replaced my motherboard twice as well as all the cooling system (fan/heat pipe/etc).  I'm confident it's a BIOS level issue, that said, after my third (including orig) motherboard the problem went away.  I can play 10+ YouTube videos simultaneously now with no issues, before I couldn't get through a single video.  I posted this on my blog including a screen shot of the throttle taking place in Windows Resource Monitor.  Nice to hear I wasn't alone.</p><p><a href="http://randommusingsofp.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/dell-latitude-e65006400-performance-issues/" title="wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://randommusingsofp.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/dell-latitude-e65006400-performance-issues/</a> [wordpress.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got one of these notebooks .
They 've replaced my motherboard twice as well as all the cooling system ( fan/heat pipe/etc ) .
I 'm confident it 's a BIOS level issue , that said , after my third ( including orig ) motherboard the problem went away .
I can play 10 + YouTube videos simultaneously now with no issues , before I could n't get through a single video .
I posted this on my blog including a screen shot of the throttle taking place in Windows Resource Monitor .
Nice to hear I was n't alone.http : //randommusingsofp.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/dell-latitude-e65006400-performance-issues/ [ wordpress.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got one of these notebooks.
They've replaced my motherboard twice as well as all the cooling system (fan/heat pipe/etc).
I'm confident it's a BIOS level issue, that said, after my third (including orig) motherboard the problem went away.
I can play 10+ YouTube videos simultaneously now with no issues, before I couldn't get through a single video.
I posted this on my blog including a screen shot of the throttle taking place in Windows Resource Monitor.
Nice to hear I wasn't alone.http://randommusingsofp.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/dell-latitude-e65006400-performance-issues/ [wordpress.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30286114</id>
	<title>Re:My experience and fix. Isn't 59 pages long.</title>
	<author>Khopesh</author>
	<datestamp>1259695200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The above post was also posted to <a href="http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5573605#td\_post\_5572662" title="notebookreview.com">http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5573605#td\_post\_5572662</a> [notebookreview.com] with a little more detail.  This post predates the other by a few minutes (assuming properly synced clocks), so I'd guess it was the same person who posted both of them.
</p><p>There are currently three hits for "i8kspeedfan" on Google, all of them having the exact same text; slashdot, a slashdot syndicator, and the above notebookreview page.  Maybe it refers to <a href="http://www.diefer.de/i8kfan/" title="diefer.de">i8kfan</a> [diefer.de], which is probably similar enough to Linux/*nix's i8kutils, which apparently has no project/home page.  All I can find is <a href="http://packages.debian.org/stable/i8kutils" title="debian.org">Debian's i8kutils package</a> [debian.org] (though its maintainer claims he is <a href="http://people.debian.org/~dz/i8k/README.i8kutils" title="debian.org">no longer maintaining it</a> [debian.org]).  The source is hosted with a direct tgz link from that page.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The above post was also posted to http : //forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php ? p = 5573605 # td \ _post \ _5572662 [ notebookreview.com ] with a little more detail .
This post predates the other by a few minutes ( assuming properly synced clocks ) , so I 'd guess it was the same person who posted both of them .
There are currently three hits for " i8kspeedfan " on Google , all of them having the exact same text ; slashdot , a slashdot syndicator , and the above notebookreview page .
Maybe it refers to i8kfan [ diefer.de ] , which is probably similar enough to Linux/ * nix 's i8kutils , which apparently has no project/home page .
All I can find is Debian 's i8kutils package [ debian.org ] ( though its maintainer claims he is no longer maintaining it [ debian.org ] ) .
The source is hosted with a direct tgz link from that page .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The above post was also posted to http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5573605#td\_post\_5572662 [notebookreview.com] with a little more detail.
This post predates the other by a few minutes (assuming properly synced clocks), so I'd guess it was the same person who posted both of them.
There are currently three hits for "i8kspeedfan" on Google, all of them having the exact same text; slashdot, a slashdot syndicator, and the above notebookreview page.
Maybe it refers to i8kfan [diefer.de], which is probably similar enough to Linux/*nix's i8kutils, which apparently has no project/home page.
All I can find is Debian's i8kutils package [debian.org] (though its maintainer claims he is no longer maintaining it [debian.org]).
The source is hosted with a direct tgz link from that page.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276272</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275358</id>
	<title>Non-public information?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259578380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> 'non-public information,'</p></div> </blockquote><p>Non-public information? How can such a thing exist on a commodity good that has already been released to the public, and especially when they are trying to cover up a defect which renders their product offering as fraudulent (because it doesn't work as advertised) and not fit for sale? Did they expect this to NOT blow up publicly when they ignored user complaints?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>'non-public information, ' Non-public information ?
How can such a thing exist on a commodity good that has already been released to the public , and especially when they are trying to cover up a defect which renders their product offering as fraudulent ( because it does n't work as advertised ) and not fit for sale ?
Did they expect this to NOT blow up publicly when they ignored user complaints ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> 'non-public information,' Non-public information?
How can such a thing exist on a commodity good that has already been released to the public, and especially when they are trying to cover up a defect which renders their product offering as fraudulent (because it doesn't work as advertised) and not fit for sale?
Did they expect this to NOT blow up publicly when they ignored user complaints?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275172</id>
	<title>Coral Cache links to the PDFs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259577600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Coral Cache links to the PDFs:</p><p>1. <a href="http://imsahp.chambana.net.nyud.net/~randall/dell/throttlegate.pdf" title="nyud.net">http://imsahp.chambana.net.nyud.net/~randall/dell/throttlegate.pdf</a> [nyud.net]<br>2. <a href="http://imsahp.chambana.net.nyud.net:8090/~randall/dell/Dell\%20E6X00\%20downclock\%20problem\%20high\%20compatibility.pdf" title="nyud.net">http://imsahp.chambana.net.nyud.net:8090/~randall/dell/Dell\%20E6X00\%20downclock\%20problem\%20high\%20compatibility.pdf</a> [nyud.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Coral Cache links to the PDFs : 1. http : //imsahp.chambana.net.nyud.net/ ~ randall/dell/throttlegate.pdf [ nyud.net ] 2. http : //imsahp.chambana.net.nyud.net : 8090/ ~ randall/dell/Dell \ % 20E6X00 \ % 20downclock \ % 20problem \ % 20high \ % 20compatibility.pdf [ nyud.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Coral Cache links to the PDFs:1. http://imsahp.chambana.net.nyud.net/~randall/dell/throttlegate.pdf [nyud.net]2. http://imsahp.chambana.net.nyud.net:8090/~randall/dell/Dell\%20E6X00\%20downclock\%20problem\%20high\%20compatibility.pdf [nyud.net]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275662</id>
	<title>I've seen this in action</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259579400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tried to fix a client's laptop with this problem, and eventually gave up in disgust.  Glad to see it's recognize, I'll try the RMClock workaround.  Hopefully Dell releases something for it soon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tried to fix a client 's laptop with this problem , and eventually gave up in disgust .
Glad to see it 's recognize , I 'll try the RMClock workaround .
Hopefully Dell releases something for it soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tried to fix a client's laptop with this problem, and eventually gave up in disgust.
Glad to see it's recognize, I'll try the RMClock workaround.
Hopefully Dell releases something for it soon.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276606</id>
	<title>Long day at Throttlegate</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259582640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a newly hired Dell Tech support employee starting his 2nd day at work in about 9 hours, I have a feeling tomorrow is going to be a looong day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a newly hired Dell Tech support employee starting his 2nd day at work in about 9 hours , I have a feeling tomorrow is going to be a looong day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a newly hired Dell Tech support employee starting his 2nd day at work in about 9 hours, I have a feeling tomorrow is going to be a looong day.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30279244</id>
	<title>Re:Long day at Throttlegate</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259601480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>hey, while you're there, can you check up on my tech support issue? It's about my cupholder, I wanna know why it won't go in anymore, and why it only holds sno-cones. My support # is 1234567891. Thanks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>hey , while you 're there , can you check up on my tech support issue ?
It 's about my cupholder , I wan na know why it wo n't go in anymore , and why it only holds sno-cones .
My support # is 1234567891 .
Thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hey, while you're there, can you check up on my tech support issue?
It's about my cupholder, I wanna know why it won't go in anymore, and why it only holds sno-cones.
My support # is 1234567891.
Thanks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276606</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276484</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259582160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have some manners.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have some manners .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have some manners.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274762</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276990</id>
	<title>Re:OMG, I brought this up with them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259584380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>as mentioned above, disabling speedstep on a dell laptop DOES NOT give you full power all the time. I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 with a Core 2 Duo. With speedstep on, it will go up to 2.0 GHz per core when needed. If I disable Speedstep in BIOS, the cores STAY at 1.0 GHz at all times. It even has a nice message in the BIOS telling you this will be the case. Why I can't just run them at 2.0 GHz whenever I want is beyond me (but thank you Ubuntu... with the toolbar addon I can set the core speeds to be locked at 2.0 GHzs if I want)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>as mentioned above , disabling speedstep on a dell laptop DOES NOT give you full power all the time .
I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 with a Core 2 Duo .
With speedstep on , it will go up to 2.0 GHz per core when needed .
If I disable Speedstep in BIOS , the cores STAY at 1.0 GHz at all times .
It even has a nice message in the BIOS telling you this will be the case .
Why I ca n't just run them at 2.0 GHz whenever I want is beyond me ( but thank you Ubuntu... with the toolbar addon I can set the core speeds to be locked at 2.0 GHzs if I want )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as mentioned above, disabling speedstep on a dell laptop DOES NOT give you full power all the time.
I have a Dell Inspiron E1505 with a Core 2 Duo.
With speedstep on, it will go up to 2.0 GHz per core when needed.
If I disable Speedstep in BIOS, the cores STAY at 1.0 GHz at all times.
It even has a nice message in the BIOS telling you this will be the case.
Why I can't just run them at 2.0 GHz whenever I want is beyond me (but thank you Ubuntu... with the toolbar addon I can set the core speeds to be locked at 2.0 GHzs if I want)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276146</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276070</id>
	<title>Re:Scours?</title>
	<author>ShatteredArm</author>
	<datestamp>1259580720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am frome the 17th cenchurie, ande the worde is moste deffinetlie "scowers."</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am frome the 17th cenchurie , ande the worde is moste deffinetlie " scowers .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am frome the 17th cenchurie, ande the worde is moste deffinetlie "scowers.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274878</id>
	<title>Mine just arrived</title>
	<author>WiiVault</author>
	<datestamp>1259576340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Windows 7 on a blazing fast 100mhz CPU. Suck on that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.ers. And hey it does Aero too! At least I think it does, bought mine last week and just got to the login screen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows 7 on a blazing fast 100mhz CPU .
Suck on that /.ers .
And hey it does Aero too !
At least I think it does , bought mine last week and just got to the login screen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows 7 on a blazing fast 100mhz CPU.
Suck on that /.ers.
And hey it does Aero too!
At least I think it does, bought mine last week and just got to the login screen.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30279076</id>
	<title>Re:Hasn't been too much of a problem for me..</title>
	<author>kullnd</author>
	<datestamp>1259599860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have had no issues at all with my D630 Latitude --- Very happy about that after reading all of this.   I have a Centrino Dual core 2.4Ghz w/ 4GB of ram, Windows 7 Ultimate --- it gets hot, and the fans will spin up when it starts burning my legs, but I have not seen it slow --- The CPU speed changes very cleanly with the load, and I need the power I get it....<br><br>Sucks for all of you having issues.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have had no issues at all with my D630 Latitude --- Very happy about that after reading all of this .
I have a Centrino Dual core 2.4Ghz w/ 4GB of ram , Windows 7 Ultimate --- it gets hot , and the fans will spin up when it starts burning my legs , but I have not seen it slow --- The CPU speed changes very cleanly with the load , and I need the power I get it....Sucks for all of you having issues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have had no issues at all with my D630 Latitude --- Very happy about that after reading all of this.
I have a Centrino Dual core 2.4Ghz w/ 4GB of ram, Windows 7 Ultimate --- it gets hot, and the fans will spin up when it starts burning my legs, but I have not seen it slow --- The CPU speed changes very cleanly with the load, and I need the power I get it....Sucks for all of you having issues.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274960</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30278250</id>
	<title>Re:Hasn't been too much of a problem for me..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>heh. maybe the problem others are having isn't occurring with your computer, because<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... detecting the problem isn't done by the computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>heh .
maybe the problem others are having is n't occurring with your computer , because ... detecting the problem is n't done by the computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>heh.
maybe the problem others are having isn't occurring with your computer, because ... detecting the problem isn't done by the computer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275120</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277058</id>
	<title>Similar symptoms with GPU heatsink failure</title>
	<author>Carrion Creeper</author>
	<datestamp>1259584620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
I have a Dell XPS M1210 on which the service technician didn't make the connection between the heatsink and the GPU when replacing the motherboard.
<br> <br>
Once I found out that the overheating GPU was causing the CPU to throttle down, I added a giant blob of silver paste and everything has been happier.
<br> <br>
This had especially been a problem when playing flash videos (of Bible stories of course), which quickly overheated the GPU and sent the whole system to 100 MHz.  Without having RTFPDF, this sounds suspiciously familiar.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Dell XPS M1210 on which the service technician did n't make the connection between the heatsink and the GPU when replacing the motherboard .
Once I found out that the overheating GPU was causing the CPU to throttle down , I added a giant blob of silver paste and everything has been happier .
This had especially been a problem when playing flash videos ( of Bible stories of course ) , which quickly overheated the GPU and sent the whole system to 100 MHz .
Without having RTFPDF , this sounds suspiciously familiar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I have a Dell XPS M1210 on which the service technician didn't make the connection between the heatsink and the GPU when replacing the motherboard.
Once I found out that the overheating GPU was causing the CPU to throttle down, I added a giant blob of silver paste and everything has been happier.
This had especially been a problem when playing flash videos (of Bible stories of course), which quickly overheated the GPU and sent the whole system to 100 MHz.
Without having RTFPDF, this sounds suspiciously familiar.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276942</id>
	<title>Re:OMG, I brought this up with them</title>
	<author>A Friendly Troll</author>
	<datestamp>1259584140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Disabling Speed Step and power management/power saving/etc in BIOS and the OS(whatever one is installed) is the very first thing I do on any machine. I want it at full power all the time. This also makes it easier to keep my fans at a constant speed as well, which makes for a quieter work environment. Similar to how a clock ticking is filtered out after a few hours or days, a constant low drone from the PC is as well.</p></div><p>Sorry, but that is just stupid.</p><p>You gain absolutely nothing from disabling SpeedStep and power management - well, nothing apart from higher energy consumption and higher power bills.  There is no performance loss whatsoever by having those things on.</p><p>Also, if you hear the fans in your PC, then you either fail at assembling properly-cooled computers, or you are a gamer with a power-hungry graphics card. My computer is cooled by two 800rpm fans that work at constant speed, and I don't hear them; as I'm writing this, the only thing I do hear is the rotational hum of my suspended HDD, so that should tell you how quiet it is (and yeah, it's well past midnight).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Disabling Speed Step and power management/power saving/etc in BIOS and the OS ( whatever one is installed ) is the very first thing I do on any machine .
I want it at full power all the time .
This also makes it easier to keep my fans at a constant speed as well , which makes for a quieter work environment .
Similar to how a clock ticking is filtered out after a few hours or days , a constant low drone from the PC is as well.Sorry , but that is just stupid.You gain absolutely nothing from disabling SpeedStep and power management - well , nothing apart from higher energy consumption and higher power bills .
There is no performance loss whatsoever by having those things on.Also , if you hear the fans in your PC , then you either fail at assembling properly-cooled computers , or you are a gamer with a power-hungry graphics card .
My computer is cooled by two 800rpm fans that work at constant speed , and I do n't hear them ; as I 'm writing this , the only thing I do hear is the rotational hum of my suspended HDD , so that should tell you how quiet it is ( and yeah , it 's well past midnight ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Disabling Speed Step and power management/power saving/etc in BIOS and the OS(whatever one is installed) is the very first thing I do on any machine.
I want it at full power all the time.
This also makes it easier to keep my fans at a constant speed as well, which makes for a quieter work environment.
Similar to how a clock ticking is filtered out after a few hours or days, a constant low drone from the PC is as well.Sorry, but that is just stupid.You gain absolutely nothing from disabling SpeedStep and power management - well, nothing apart from higher energy consumption and higher power bills.
There is no performance loss whatsoever by having those things on.Also, if you hear the fans in your PC, then you either fail at assembling properly-cooled computers, or you are a gamer with a power-hungry graphics card.
My computer is cooled by two 800rpm fans that work at constant speed, and I don't hear them; as I'm writing this, the only thing I do hear is the rotational hum of my suspended HDD, so that should tell you how quiet it is (and yeah, it's well past midnight).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276146</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30293498</id>
	<title>Re:OMG, I brought this up with them</title>
	<author>mcohrs</author>
	<datestamp>1259689140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>On the Dells where I disabled SpeedStep in BIOS, they all defaulted to a very low speed. Or should we say they ran at Dell speed?</htmltext>
<tokenext>On the Dells where I disabled SpeedStep in BIOS , they all defaulted to a very low speed .
Or should we say they ran at Dell speed ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the Dells where I disabled SpeedStep in BIOS, they all defaulted to a very low speed.
Or should we say they ran at Dell speed?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274956</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30280928</id>
	<title>Dude!</title>
	<author>db10</author>
	<datestamp>1259663820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>shouldn't have got a Dell!</htmltext>
<tokenext>should n't have got a Dell !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>shouldn't have got a Dell!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277512</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259586900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And this just leads to the MetaMetaGateGate!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And this just leads to the MetaMetaGateGate !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And this just leads to the MetaMetaGateGate!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274986</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275416</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>schon</author>
	<datestamp>1259578560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Obama gives new Afghan stragey</p></div><p>You're saying he's gonna redecorate the Oval Office with a throw?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Obama gives new Afghan strageyYou 're saying he 's gon na redecorate the Oval Office with a throw ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obama gives new Afghan strageyYou're saying he's gonna redecorate the Oval Office with a throw?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275134</id>
	<title>Re:scours of users</title>
	<author>foo1752</author>
	<datestamp>1259577480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, it was used as a noun.  According to the wiktionary, "scours" is described as "diarrhea in horses and cattle caused by intestinal infection."  That sounds about right.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , it was used as a noun .
According to the wiktionary , " scours " is described as " diarrhea in horses and cattle caused by intestinal infection .
" That sounds about right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, it was used as a noun.
According to the wiktionary, "scours" is described as "diarrhea in horses and cattle caused by intestinal infection.
"  That sounds about right.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275120</id>
	<title>Re:Hasn't been too much of a problem for me..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259577420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My E6400 is fine too, it I am typing this post onit and the processor is running at full speed.</p><p>I am running XP on it, and suspect the peblem is with the Win7 driver, not the machine itself.</p><p>I am VERy happy with this E6400, it is the best laptop I have used, including all flavours of MAc book.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My E6400 is fine too , it I am typing this post onit and the processor is running at full speed.I am running XP on it , and suspect the peblem is with the Win7 driver , not the machine itself.I am VERy happy with this E6400 , it is the best laptop I have used , including all flavours of MAc book .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My E6400 is fine too, it I am typing this post onit and the processor is running at full speed.I am running XP on it, and suspect the peblem is with the Win7 driver, not the machine itself.I am VERy happy with this E6400, it is the best laptop I have used, including all flavours of MAc book.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274960</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274816</id>
	<title>Silver lining...</title>
	<author>Dan East</author>
	<datestamp>1259576040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least the batteries will last for 50 hours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least the batteries will last for 50 hours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least the batteries will last for 50 hours.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275644</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259579340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Stargate?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Stargate ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stargate?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30284340</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1259687940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, I don't get it. As a time traveler from the year 1994, I think 100Mhz is just amazing!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I do n't get it .
As a time traveler from the year 1994 , I think 100Mhz is just amazing !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I don't get it.
As a time traveler from the year 1994, I think 100Mhz is just amazing!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274762</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275178</id>
	<title>Re:Silver lining...</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1259577660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which is incidently also the length of the average movie displayed on this machine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which is incidently also the length of the average movie displayed on this machine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which is incidently also the length of the average movie displayed on this machine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276558</id>
	<title>I must be getting tired</title>
	<author>acid\_andy</author>
	<datestamp>1259582460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I must be getting tired, because I read that as "Dell Defect Turning 2.2GHz CPU Into 1000GHz CPU?"!

I thought wow I want one of those, then I read on and thought it was some bug working out the processor usage as a percentage of 1000GHz even though it was running at full speed, then I realised what an idiot I was being!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I must be getting tired , because I read that as " Dell Defect Turning 2.2GHz CPU Into 1000GHz CPU ? " !
I thought wow I want one of those , then I read on and thought it was some bug working out the processor usage as a percentage of 1000GHz even though it was running at full speed , then I realised what an idiot I was being !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I must be getting tired, because I read that as "Dell Defect Turning 2.2GHz CPU Into 1000GHz CPU?"!
I thought wow I want one of those, then I read on and thought it was some bug working out the processor usage as a percentage of 1000GHz even though it was running at full speed, then I realised what an idiot I was being!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275164</id>
	<title>Re:class action</title>
	<author>VoltageX</author>
	<datestamp>1259577600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Step 4: Lawyers profit, everyone else gets $5 off at the Dell shop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Step 4 : Lawyers profit , everyone else gets $ 5 off at the Dell shop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Step 4: Lawyers profit, everyone else gets $5 off at the Dell shop.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275058</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275244</id>
	<title>Just like Apple</title>
	<author>kimvette</author>
	<datestamp>1259577960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>After being banned [CC] [PDF] from the Dell Forums for revealing 'non-public information,' one user went so far as to write and publish a 59-page report [CC] [PDF] explaining and diagnosing the throttling problem in incredible detail.</p></div></blockquote><p>Wow, so they're just like Apple!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>After being banned [ CC ] [ PDF ] from the Dell Forums for revealing 'non-public information, ' one user went so far as to write and publish a 59-page report [ CC ] [ PDF ] explaining and diagnosing the throttling problem in incredible detail.Wow , so they 're just like Apple !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After being banned [CC] [PDF] from the Dell Forums for revealing 'non-public information,' one user went so far as to write and publish a 59-page report [CC] [PDF] explaining and diagnosing the throttling problem in incredible detail.Wow, so they're just like Apple!
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30282876</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1259681580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wash their mouths out with soap?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wash their mouths out with soap ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wash their mouths out with soap?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274812</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30279212</id>
	<title>Re:Post on Dell's forums</title>
	<author>citizenr</author>
	<datestamp>1259601300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> The symptoms are much more highly correlated to elevated NVIDIA GPU temperature than elevated CPU core temperatures.</p></div><p>So its a workaround for Nvidia crappy GPU bug that was famous a year ago and still persists. Im guessing DELL didnt bother to turn this workaround off for the Intel models.
You cant imagine how many laptops have Nvidia chipset/gpu reballed monthly.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The symptoms are much more highly correlated to elevated NVIDIA GPU temperature than elevated CPU core temperatures.So its a workaround for Nvidia crappy GPU bug that was famous a year ago and still persists .
Im guessing DELL didnt bother to turn this workaround off for the Intel models .
You cant imagine how many laptops have Nvidia chipset/gpu reballed monthly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The symptoms are much more highly correlated to elevated NVIDIA GPU temperature than elevated CPU core temperatures.So its a workaround for Nvidia crappy GPU bug that was famous a year ago and still persists.
Im guessing DELL didnt bother to turn this workaround off for the Intel models.
You cant imagine how many laptops have Nvidia chipset/gpu reballed monthly.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275002</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276052</id>
	<title>Mirror</title>
	<author>xur17</author>
	<datestamp>1259580660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here's a mirror of the files.  I only have the first file so far, but I will add the other one once it works:

<a href="http://www.sigmirror.com/browse/admin/4438\_NOr20" title="sigmirror.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sigmirror.com/browse/admin/4438\_NOr20</a> [sigmirror.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's a mirror of the files .
I only have the first file so far , but I will add the other one once it works : http : //www.sigmirror.com/browse/admin/4438 \ _NOr20 [ sigmirror.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's a mirror of the files.
I only have the first file so far, but I will add the other one once it works:

http://www.sigmirror.com/browse/admin/4438\_NOr20 [sigmirror.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276076</id>
	<title>Here we go again</title>
	<author>get quad</author>
	<datestamp>1259580780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>In my 15+ year history of dealing with Dell, getting them to admit fault is near impossible. I've been through quite a few such incidents and I have to say, I may never forgive Dell for the Optiplex GX270 SFF.

If they would just be a responsible company and fix their mistakes openly I might consider doing business with them again some day.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In my 15 + year history of dealing with Dell , getting them to admit fault is near impossible .
I 've been through quite a few such incidents and I have to say , I may never forgive Dell for the Optiplex GX270 SFF .
If they would just be a responsible company and fix their mistakes openly I might consider doing business with them again some day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In my 15+ year history of dealing with Dell, getting them to admit fault is near impossible.
I've been through quite a few such incidents and I have to say, I may never forgive Dell for the Optiplex GX270 SFF.
If they would just be a responsible company and fix their mistakes openly I might consider doing business with them again some day.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275766</id>
	<title>Better Value than a MacBook Pro</title>
	<author>4pins</author>
	<datestamp>1259579760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>At least they saved hundreds of dollars over a comparably equipped MacBook Pro.  Who wants to pay all that extra money for a shinny case?  That is where all those extra engineering dollars go, right?</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least they saved hundreds of dollars over a comparably equipped MacBook Pro .
Who wants to pay all that extra money for a shinny case ?
That is where all those extra engineering dollars go , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least they saved hundreds of dollars over a comparably equipped MacBook Pro.
Who wants to pay all that extra money for a shinny case?
That is where all those extra engineering dollars go, right?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275084</id>
	<title>Dell forums link points to a different issue?</title>
	<author>keilun</author>
	<datestamp>1259577240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The third link: <a href="http://en.community.dell.com/forums/p/19256129/19427660.aspx" title="dell.com" rel="nofollow">http://en.community.dell.com/forums/p/19256129/19427660.aspx</a> [dell.com]

Appears to discuss a different issue. Yes freeze/lockups, but not due to throttling. Rather it's pointing to bad RAM as the eventual culprit. The other two links discuss throttling.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The third link : http : //en.community.dell.com/forums/p/19256129/19427660.aspx [ dell.com ] Appears to discuss a different issue .
Yes freeze/lockups , but not due to throttling .
Rather it 's pointing to bad RAM as the eventual culprit .
The other two links discuss throttling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The third link: http://en.community.dell.com/forums/p/19256129/19427660.aspx [dell.com]

Appears to discuss a different issue.
Yes freeze/lockups, but not due to throttling.
Rather it's pointing to bad RAM as the eventual culprit.
The other two links discuss throttling.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30279310</id>
	<title>Re:Recall when hell freezes over</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259602140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dell sent out Latitude CPx laptops with intermittent keyboard problems (random keys just stopped working) a few years back. Getting them to admit to the problem let alone do a recall is was nightmare of corporate ass covering.</p><p>Looks like nothing has changed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dell sent out Latitude CPx laptops with intermittent keyboard problems ( random keys just stopped working ) a few years back .
Getting them to admit to the problem let alone do a recall is was nightmare of corporate ass covering.Looks like nothing has changed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dell sent out Latitude CPx laptops with intermittent keyboard problems (random keys just stopped working) a few years back.
Getting them to admit to the problem let alone do a recall is was nightmare of corporate ass covering.Looks like nothing has changed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276584</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274778</id>
	<title>FTW</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259575860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Energy Star Compliance at it's Best.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Energy Star Compliance at it 's Best .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Energy Star Compliance at it's Best.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275116</id>
	<title>Re:The E-series has been craptastic all along</title>
	<author>powerlord</author>
	<datestamp>1259577420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Even on a 'release' E6500, Ubuntu seems to halt and die on full-screen video</p></div></blockquote><p>Even the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halt\_and\_Catch\_Fire" title="wikipedia.org">HCF</a> [wikipedia.org] instruction isn't properly implemented?  What were these people thinking?!?!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even on a 'release ' E6500 , Ubuntu seems to halt and die on full-screen videoEven the HCF [ wikipedia.org ] instruction is n't properly implemented ?
What were these people thinking ? ! ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even on a 'release' E6500, Ubuntu seems to halt and die on full-screen videoEven the HCF [wikipedia.org] instruction isn't properly implemented?
What were these people thinking?!?
!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274794</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30294764</id>
	<title>New BIOS available</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259572080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As of last night, http://ftp.us.dell.com/bios/E6400A19.EXE</p><p>No release notes yet on Dell's main website though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As of last night , http : //ftp.us.dell.com/bios/E6400A19.EXENo release notes yet on Dell 's main website though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As of last night, http://ftp.us.dell.com/bios/E6400A19.EXENo release notes yet on Dell's main website though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274922</id>
	<title>Re:PDF Mirror</title>
	<author>jtownatpunk.net</author>
	<datestamp>1259576520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe it shouldn't have been mirrored on an E6500.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe it should n't have been mirrored on an E6500 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe it shouldn't have been mirrored on an E6500.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30301012</id>
	<title>Re:PDF Mirror</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259613720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tried to find a mirror that worked, and failed. checked the torrents, with no luck.<br>when the server came back up, i got the file and posted it to TPB</p><p>just search for "Throttlegate"<br>the user is the same too, and it links to this article, so you'll know you are in the right place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tried to find a mirror that worked , and failed .
checked the torrents , with no luck.when the server came back up , i got the file and posted it to TPBjust search for " Throttlegate " the user is the same too , and it links to this article , so you 'll know you are in the right place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tried to find a mirror that worked, and failed.
checked the torrents, with no luck.when the server came back up, i got the file and posted it to TPBjust search for "Throttlegate"the user is the same too, and it links to this article, so you'll know you are in the right place.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274784</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275682</id>
	<title>Unnoticeable.</title>
	<author>dandart</author>
	<datestamp>1259579520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry, I didn't notice, See, my operating system is BLAZINGLY fast.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , I did n't notice , See , my operating system is BLAZINGLY fast .
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, I didn't notice, See, my operating system is BLAZINGLY fast.
:P</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30278184</id>
	<title>Re:Many users are hoping for a formal recall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259591820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And install disks for Windows 3.1, the last OS that can make full use of the system resources.  But you'll need a 5 1/2 inch floppy drive... check Frye's.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And install disks for Windows 3.1 , the last OS that can make full use of the system resources .
But you 'll need a 5 1/2 inch floppy drive... check Frye 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And install disks for Windows 3.1, the last OS that can make full use of the system resources.
But you'll need a 5 1/2 inch floppy drive... check Frye's.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274770</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30283284</id>
	<title>Re:The E-series has been craptastic all along</title>
	<author>pnutjam</author>
	<datestamp>1259683260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can expect dell to screw up the first iteration.  The D600 had a similar problem almost 5 years ago, as well as a poorly designed PCMICIA port and some other crappy issues. The 610's and 620's are awesome machines.<br> <br>
I told my boss to wait for the next generation of the E series before buying any laptops.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can expect dell to screw up the first iteration .
The D600 had a similar problem almost 5 years ago , as well as a poorly designed PCMICIA port and some other crappy issues .
The 610 's and 620 's are awesome machines .
I told my boss to wait for the next generation of the E series before buying any laptops .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can expect dell to screw up the first iteration.
The D600 had a similar problem almost 5 years ago, as well as a poorly designed PCMICIA port and some other crappy issues.
The 610's and 620's are awesome machines.
I told my boss to wait for the next generation of the E series before buying any laptops.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274794</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275226</id>
	<title>From the reporting side</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259577900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have seen this issue before with Dell's e6500. I am building a website which collects hardware information from the windows user's WMI database and displays it in a user-friendly display which records when upgrades are made, lets users recommend upgrades for other users, etc.</p><p>anyway, during testing, i found one of my e6500 test tops was running 797mhz during the windows install (when wmi data about the system is loaded).</p><p>http://www.hardwarearmory.com/ShowSystem.aspx?id=19</p><p>click the picture of the processor and look at clock.</p><p>either a bad wmi entry, or it was really clocked at 797. i couldn't explain it and spend a few hours debugging my wmi implementation. it has been a few months, but this post points me to a conclusion i can accept.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have seen this issue before with Dell 's e6500 .
I am building a website which collects hardware information from the windows user 's WMI database and displays it in a user-friendly display which records when upgrades are made , lets users recommend upgrades for other users , etc.anyway , during testing , i found one of my e6500 test tops was running 797mhz during the windows install ( when wmi data about the system is loaded ) .http : //www.hardwarearmory.com/ShowSystem.aspx ? id = 19click the picture of the processor and look at clock.either a bad wmi entry , or it was really clocked at 797. i could n't explain it and spend a few hours debugging my wmi implementation .
it has been a few months , but this post points me to a conclusion i can accept .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have seen this issue before with Dell's e6500.
I am building a website which collects hardware information from the windows user's WMI database and displays it in a user-friendly display which records when upgrades are made, lets users recommend upgrades for other users, etc.anyway, during testing, i found one of my e6500 test tops was running 797mhz during the windows install (when wmi data about the system is loaded).http://www.hardwarearmory.com/ShowSystem.aspx?id=19click the picture of the processor and look at clock.either a bad wmi entry, or it was really clocked at 797. i couldn't explain it and spend a few hours debugging my wmi implementation.
it has been a few months, but this post points me to a conclusion i can accept.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274784</id>
	<title>PDF Mirror</title>
	<author>MBCook</author>
	<datestamp>1259575860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here is a mirror of the PDF:
<a href="http://archive.randallcotton.com/Public/throttlegate.pdf" title="randallcotton.com">mirror</a> [randallcotton.com]. It was put up by the guy who discovered this, I'm just copying the link.
</p><p>User/password is "guest" and "guest".
</p><p>Be warned, it's about 25MB.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here is a mirror of the PDF : mirror [ randallcotton.com ] .
It was put up by the guy who discovered this , I 'm just copying the link .
User/password is " guest " and " guest " .
Be warned , it 's about 25MB .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here is a mirror of the PDF:
mirror [randallcotton.com].
It was put up by the guy who discovered this, I'm just copying the link.
User/password is "guest" and "guest".
Be warned, it's about 25MB.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30294248</id>
	<title>Re:Not the first time Dells have underperformed</title>
	<author>svallarian</author>
	<datestamp>1259695800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had the same problem on my dell laptop. I *think* it was caused by a bad thermal sensor, because once I maxed my processor @ 100\% for about a minute, it would switch to 800Mhz mode and *never* come back up to 1.4.</p><p>I did finally disassemble the board, but couldn't seem to locate the bugger.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had the same problem on my dell laptop .
I * think * it was caused by a bad thermal sensor , because once I maxed my processor @ 100 \ % for about a minute , it would switch to 800Mhz mode and * never * come back up to 1.4.I did finally disassemble the board , but could n't seem to locate the bugger .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had the same problem on my dell laptop.
I *think* it was caused by a bad thermal sensor, because once I maxed my processor @ 100\% for about a minute, it would switch to 800Mhz mode and *never* come back up to 1.4.I did finally disassemble the board, but couldn't seem to locate the bugger.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275316</id>
	<title>Re:class action</title>
	<author>DaveV1.0</author>
	<datestamp>1259578260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Step four: profit <b>for the lawyers</b>!</p></div></blockquote><p>There, fixed that for you</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Step four : profit for the lawyers ! There , fixed that for you</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Step four: profit for the lawyers!There, fixed that for you
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275058</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276422</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>JJJK</author>
	<datestamp>1259581920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Every time some name becomes a noun (or a noun becomes a verb), a meme becomes mainstream, or anything slightly changes its meaning to settle in a niche, there will always be a lot of ranting from people who find this annoying or lame, making it something of a scandal.</p><p>I'll just call that "GATEGATEGATE".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Every time some name becomes a noun ( or a noun becomes a verb ) , a meme becomes mainstream , or anything slightly changes its meaning to settle in a niche , there will always be a lot of ranting from people who find this annoying or lame , making it something of a scandal.I 'll just call that " GATEGATEGATE " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every time some name becomes a noun (or a noun becomes a verb), a meme becomes mainstream, or anything slightly changes its meaning to settle in a niche, there will always be a lot of ranting from people who find this annoying or lame, making it something of a scandal.I'll just call that "GATEGATEGATE".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274956</id>
	<title>OMG, I brought this up with them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259576700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I called their Pro Tech support to help diagnose a very similar issue. The CPU's were running at 6-700Mhz. I spent 45 min on the phone with them until I finally found a forum explaining it had to do with the Intel SpeedStep feature. When you go into the BIOS, go to Performance, SpeedStep, and disable it. They said thanks, added to their Knowledge Base and gave us one more reason to get away from them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I called their Pro Tech support to help diagnose a very similar issue .
The CPU 's were running at 6-700Mhz .
I spent 45 min on the phone with them until I finally found a forum explaining it had to do with the Intel SpeedStep feature .
When you go into the BIOS , go to Performance , SpeedStep , and disable it .
They said thanks , added to their Knowledge Base and gave us one more reason to get away from them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I called their Pro Tech support to help diagnose a very similar issue.
The CPU's were running at 6-700Mhz.
I spent 45 min on the phone with them until I finally found a forum explaining it had to do with the Intel SpeedStep feature.
When you go into the BIOS, go to Performance, SpeedStep, and disable it.
They said thanks, added to their Knowledge Base and gave us one more reason to get away from them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274770</id>
	<title>Many users are hoping for a formal recall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259575800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hear Dell is planning to issue a complimentary turbo button for any user experiencing the problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hear Dell is planning to issue a complimentary turbo button for any user experiencing the problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hear Dell is planning to issue a complimentary turbo button for any user experiencing the problem.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30279934</id>
	<title>Re:MIRROR</title>
	<author>fgrieu</author>
	<datestamp>1259608380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This one seems to work<br><a href="http://dl.free.fr/oTyRx6Wfi" title="dl.free.fr" rel="nofollow">http://dl.free.fr/oTyRx6Wfi</a> [dl.free.fr]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This one seems to workhttp : //dl.free.fr/oTyRx6Wfi [ dl.free.fr ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This one seems to workhttp://dl.free.fr/oTyRx6Wfi [dl.free.fr]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277376</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275032</id>
	<title>Not the first time Dells have underperformed</title>
	<author>karcirate</author>
	<datestamp>1259577060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually this used to happen to me on my old Inspiron (think, 4 years old).

It has a 1.6 Ghz 1st gen. Pentium M, but most of the time my sys info would report it running at only 800 mhz, even though the processor was maxed out, and the system was completely cold, etc.

The only way to get back to full performance was to plug in, and even that wasn't foolproof.

Really pissed me off that there was no setting for "don't regulate my damn processor when I need it most, even if you are just saving my battery."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually this used to happen to me on my old Inspiron ( think , 4 years old ) .
It has a 1.6 Ghz 1st gen. Pentium M , but most of the time my sys info would report it running at only 800 mhz , even though the processor was maxed out , and the system was completely cold , etc .
The only way to get back to full performance was to plug in , and even that was n't foolproof .
Really pissed me off that there was no setting for " do n't regulate my damn processor when I need it most , even if you are just saving my battery .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually this used to happen to me on my old Inspiron (think, 4 years old).
It has a 1.6 Ghz 1st gen. Pentium M, but most of the time my sys info would report it running at only 800 mhz, even though the processor was maxed out, and the system was completely cold, etc.
The only way to get back to full performance was to plug in, and even that wasn't foolproof.
Really pissed me off that there was no setting for "don't regulate my damn processor when I need it most, even if you are just saving my battery.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276090</id>
	<title>Dell iPhone?</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1259580840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just as fast, twice as bulky.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just as fast , twice as bulky.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just as fast, twice as bulky.....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275236</id>
	<title>Re:The E-series has been craptastic all along</title>
	<author>xanadu-xtroot.com</author>
	<datestamp>1259577900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The E6<b>5</b>00 I had prior to about 4 months ago was a good machine (for the most part - I still agree with the "Designed from the Outside In" comment, though).  This 6<b>4</b>00 that I have now is JUNK.  The E4300s I'm getting in are even worse than that.
<br> <br>
<b>SLOW!</b></htmltext>
<tokenext>The E6500 I had prior to about 4 months ago was a good machine ( for the most part - I still agree with the " Designed from the Outside In " comment , though ) .
This 6400 that I have now is JUNK .
The E4300s I 'm getting in are even worse than that .
SLOW !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The E6500 I had prior to about 4 months ago was a good machine (for the most part - I still agree with the "Designed from the Outside In" comment, though).
This 6400 that I have now is JUNK.
The E4300s I'm getting in are even worse than that.
SLOW!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274794</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30279580</id>
	<title>I&rsquo;m the guy who wrote the 59-page report on</title>
	<author>tinkerdude</author>
	<datestamp>1259604720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even though I first started figuring this out 5 months ago (and others have been complaining about it online since late 2008) this is STILL an unresolved problem, at least for the E6500 (I don&rsquo;t have an E6400 I can test with).</p><p>New information since my report:<br>1.    Not only is the CPU deliberately throttled, but if it&rsquo;s warm enough, even the GPU is severely throttled (for the E6500 systems that have the optional discrete NVIDIA Quadro NVS 160M - I don&rsquo;t have an integrated Intel graphics model to test).<br>2.    It&rsquo;s definitely a BIOS issue &ndash; if they would just unhoark the ACPI code that (secretly) cripples the system so easily, it would save incalculable frustration (and resentment) among Dell&rsquo;s users.<br>3.    I&rsquo;ve been relentlessly trying to work with Dell to get this fixed. No dice so far. I&rsquo;m currently working with a Team Lead at Dell&rsquo;s Round Rock, TX &ldquo;Resolution Expert Center&rdquo; (REC). I had to go through 2 of their staff before I even got someone who understood the problem (they weren&rsquo;t very &ldquo;expert&rdquo;). Before that, I probably talked to about 15 various tech support folks before they would even escalate to the REC.</p><p>Nailing this thing down and trying to get it fixed has been an epic journey so far. It&rsquo;s fascinating to me how far Dell has fallen (that&rsquo;s part of why I&rsquo;m so interested in following up on this). I used to be a huge Dell fan back in the day when they kicked butt. These days they&rsquo;ve lost their way. They continue to lose  market share (they&rsquo;ve given up their #2 spot in worldwide PC sales to Acer recently, having already given up the #1 spot to HP). Meanwhile they&rsquo;re selling corporate-class desktop-replacement &ldquo;performance&rdquo; laptops that will deliberately and secretly cripple themselves into utter uselessness at warmish room temperatures. And they can&rsquo;t/won&rsquo;t fix the problem even months after it&rsquo;s pointed out to them in excruciating clinical detail. No wonder they&rsquo;re losing their core business. Instead they idly ponder selling mobile phones in China. Sheesh.</p><p>Here's a couple snippets from recent communication with my contact at Dell:</p><p>&ldquo;I'd like draw your attention to how Dell portrays this system in its<br>printed catalog:  "pure business performance designed for the most<br>demanding applications" (p. 27, October 2009, key code 65051).<br>I'm not sure whether the same verbiage was used back when I bought the<br>system last year, but it was clear that this was not a "budget" model - it<br>was the new, top-of-the-line dockable executive desktop replacement system<br>with a price tag of about $2000 including the dock.  I still hold the<br>conviction that a "performance" system "designed for the most demanding<br>applications" should not ever cripple its own processing power within its<br>specified operating environment (and in particular should not do so<br>secretly). But can we at least get to the point where it throttles the<br>same way docked as it does undocked and sitting on a table?&rdquo;</p><p>&ldquo;In my last two positions in IT management, going back to 1995, Dell was<br>pretty much all I would buy and I was a big fan. I always gave my bosses<br>dockable Dell laptops. But if I was an IT manager and found out that my<br>boss's $2000 executive performance laptop slowed to a crawl when he tried<br>to work from his porch at home, and I went through the long hours of<br>tracking this well-hidden problem down only to discover that Dell was<br>doing this on purpose and, effectively, in secret, you can be damn sure I<br>would never make the mistake of buying a Dell laptop again and I would<br>look with a wary sideways glance at any other Dell system as well.<br>Honestly.&rdquo;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even though I first started figuring this out 5 months ago ( and others have been complaining about it online since late 2008 ) this is STILL an unresolved problem , at least for the E6500 ( I don    t have an E6400 I can test with ) .New information since my report : 1 .
Not only is the CPU deliberately throttled , but if it    s warm enough , even the GPU is severely throttled ( for the E6500 systems that have the optional discrete NVIDIA Quadro NVS 160M - I don    t have an integrated Intel graphics model to test ) .2 .
It    s definitely a BIOS issue    if they would just unhoark the ACPI code that ( secretly ) cripples the system so easily , it would save incalculable frustration ( and resentment ) among Dell    s users.3 .
I    ve been relentlessly trying to work with Dell to get this fixed .
No dice so far .
I    m currently working with a Team Lead at Dell    s Round Rock , TX    Resolution Expert Center    ( REC ) .
I had to go through 2 of their staff before I even got someone who understood the problem ( they weren    t very    expert    ) .
Before that , I probably talked to about 15 various tech support folks before they would even escalate to the REC.Nailing this thing down and trying to get it fixed has been an epic journey so far .
It    s fascinating to me how far Dell has fallen ( that    s part of why I    m so interested in following up on this ) .
I used to be a huge Dell fan back in the day when they kicked butt .
These days they    ve lost their way .
They continue to lose market share ( they    ve given up their # 2 spot in worldwide PC sales to Acer recently , having already given up the # 1 spot to HP ) .
Meanwhile they    re selling corporate-class desktop-replacement    performance    laptops that will deliberately and secretly cripple themselves into utter uselessness at warmish room temperatures .
And they can    t/won    t fix the problem even months after it    s pointed out to them in excruciating clinical detail .
No wonder they    re losing their core business .
Instead they idly ponder selling mobile phones in China .
Sheesh.Here 's a couple snippets from recent communication with my contact at Dell :    I 'd like draw your attention to how Dell portrays this system in itsprinted catalog : " pure business performance designed for the mostdemanding applications " ( p. 27 , October 2009 , key code 65051 ) .I 'm not sure whether the same verbiage was used back when I bought thesystem last year , but it was clear that this was not a " budget " model - itwas the new , top-of-the-line dockable executive desktop replacement systemwith a price tag of about $ 2000 including the dock .
I still hold theconviction that a " performance " system " designed for the most demandingapplications " should not ever cripple its own processing power within itsspecified operating environment ( and in particular should not do sosecretly ) .
But can we at least get to the point where it throttles thesame way docked as it does undocked and sitting on a table ?       In my last two positions in IT management , going back to 1995 , Dell waspretty much all I would buy and I was a big fan .
I always gave my bossesdockable Dell laptops .
But if I was an IT manager and found out that myboss 's $ 2000 executive performance laptop slowed to a crawl when he triedto work from his porch at home , and I went through the long hours oftracking this well-hidden problem down only to discover that Dell wasdoing this on purpose and , effectively , in secret , you can be damn sure Iwould never make the mistake of buying a Dell laptop again and I wouldlook with a wary sideways glance at any other Dell system as well.Honestly.   </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even though I first started figuring this out 5 months ago (and others have been complaining about it online since late 2008) this is STILL an unresolved problem, at least for the E6500 (I don’t have an E6400 I can test with).New information since my report:1.
Not only is the CPU deliberately throttled, but if it’s warm enough, even the GPU is severely throttled (for the E6500 systems that have the optional discrete NVIDIA Quadro NVS 160M - I don’t have an integrated Intel graphics model to test).2.
It’s definitely a BIOS issue – if they would just unhoark the ACPI code that (secretly) cripples the system so easily, it would save incalculable frustration (and resentment) among Dell’s users.3.
I’ve been relentlessly trying to work with Dell to get this fixed.
No dice so far.
I’m currently working with a Team Lead at Dell’s Round Rock, TX “Resolution Expert Center” (REC).
I had to go through 2 of their staff before I even got someone who understood the problem (they weren’t very “expert”).
Before that, I probably talked to about 15 various tech support folks before they would even escalate to the REC.Nailing this thing down and trying to get it fixed has been an epic journey so far.
It’s fascinating to me how far Dell has fallen (that’s part of why I’m so interested in following up on this).
I used to be a huge Dell fan back in the day when they kicked butt.
These days they’ve lost their way.
They continue to lose  market share (they’ve given up their #2 spot in worldwide PC sales to Acer recently, having already given up the #1 spot to HP).
Meanwhile they’re selling corporate-class desktop-replacement “performance” laptops that will deliberately and secretly cripple themselves into utter uselessness at warmish room temperatures.
And they can’t/won’t fix the problem even months after it’s pointed out to them in excruciating clinical detail.
No wonder they’re losing their core business.
Instead they idly ponder selling mobile phones in China.
Sheesh.Here's a couple snippets from recent communication with my contact at Dell:“I'd like draw your attention to how Dell portrays this system in itsprinted catalog:  "pure business performance designed for the mostdemanding applications" (p. 27, October 2009, key code 65051).I'm not sure whether the same verbiage was used back when I bought thesystem last year, but it was clear that this was not a "budget" model - itwas the new, top-of-the-line dockable executive desktop replacement systemwith a price tag of about $2000 including the dock.
I still hold theconviction that a "performance" system "designed for the most demandingapplications" should not ever cripple its own processing power within itsspecified operating environment (and in particular should not do sosecretly).
But can we at least get to the point where it throttles thesame way docked as it does undocked and sitting on a table?”“In my last two positions in IT management, going back to 1995, Dell waspretty much all I would buy and I was a big fan.
I always gave my bossesdockable Dell laptops.
But if I was an IT manager and found out that myboss's $2000 executive performance laptop slowed to a crawl when he triedto work from his porch at home, and I went through the long hours oftracking this well-hidden problem down only to discover that Dell wasdoing this on purpose and, effectively, in secret, you can be damn sure Iwould never make the mistake of buying a Dell laptop again and I wouldlook with a wary sideways glance at any other Dell system as well.Honestly.”</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274794</id>
	<title>The E-series has been craptastic all along</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259575920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had a pre-release e-series machine from Dell on my desk last year. It's like they built the thing from the outside-in. Even on a 'release' E6500, Ubuntu seems to halt and die on full-screen video, Windows AHCI drivers that work everywhere else cause BSODs, and the power management firmware seems like it was written by a roomful of meth-addicted monkeys.</p><p>I've never been more disappointed with Dell as I was with the E6500. At least when the Optiplex GX260 power supplies all failed a few years ago, it was easy enough to fix them. These things are abhorrent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had a pre-release e-series machine from Dell on my desk last year .
It 's like they built the thing from the outside-in .
Even on a 'release ' E6500 , Ubuntu seems to halt and die on full-screen video , Windows AHCI drivers that work everywhere else cause BSODs , and the power management firmware seems like it was written by a roomful of meth-addicted monkeys.I 've never been more disappointed with Dell as I was with the E6500 .
At least when the Optiplex GX260 power supplies all failed a few years ago , it was easy enough to fix them .
These things are abhorrent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had a pre-release e-series machine from Dell on my desk last year.
It's like they built the thing from the outside-in.
Even on a 'release' E6500, Ubuntu seems to halt and die on full-screen video, Windows AHCI drivers that work everywhere else cause BSODs, and the power management firmware seems like it was written by a roomful of meth-addicted monkeys.I've never been more disappointed with Dell as I was with the E6500.
At least when the Optiplex GX260 power supplies all failed a few years ago, it was easy enough to fix them.
These things are abhorrent.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30290624</id>
	<title>We're investigating</title>
	<author>BillatDell</author>
	<datestamp>1259669760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>
We&rsquo;re aware of concerns raised in this thread. At this point, our teams are looking into the details. When we have more information to share, we&rsquo;ll update customers via a post on Dell&rsquo;s blog, Direct2Dell.

Thanks,

Bill B.
Dell Social Media and Community</htmltext>
<tokenext>We    re aware of concerns raised in this thread .
At this point , our teams are looking into the details .
When we have more information to share , we    ll update customers via a post on Dell    s blog , Direct2Dell .
Thanks , Bill B . Dell Social Media and Community</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
We’re aware of concerns raised in this thread.
At this point, our teams are looking into the details.
When we have more information to share, we’ll update customers via a post on Dell’s blog, Direct2Dell.
Thanks,

Bill B.
Dell Social Media and Community</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276034</id>
	<title>W00t!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259580600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now- how many more posts before this thread gets Godwined?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now- how many more posts before this thread gets Godwined ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now- how many more posts before this thread gets Godwined?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275814</id>
	<title>Re:OMG, I brought this up with them</title>
	<author>Fulg</author>
	<datestamp>1259579940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>When you go into the BIOS, go to Performance, SpeedStep, and disable it.</p></div><p>My brother's E6400 fixes the speed at 1GHz when SpeedStep is disabled in the BIOS (i.e. NOT at 100\% - CPU is rated for 2.0GHz), so that's not always a solution. Is the thermal design so bad that they can't actually keep the CPU at full speed all the time?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When you go into the BIOS , go to Performance , SpeedStep , and disable it.My brother 's E6400 fixes the speed at 1GHz when SpeedStep is disabled in the BIOS ( i.e .
NOT at 100 \ % - CPU is rated for 2.0GHz ) , so that 's not always a solution .
Is the thermal design so bad that they ca n't actually keep the CPU at full speed all the time ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you go into the BIOS, go to Performance, SpeedStep, and disable it.My brother's E6400 fixes the speed at 1GHz when SpeedStep is disabled in the BIOS (i.e.
NOT at 100\% - CPU is rated for 2.0GHz), so that's not always a solution.
Is the thermal design so bad that they can't actually keep the CPU at full speed all the time?
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30279988</id>
	<title>ProSupport helps</title>
	<author>bagpussnz</author>
	<datestamp>1259609400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We buy all our dells with Prosupport. I had the slowdown for ages - drove me crazy. Everyone at work blamed Linux (which it is running). Eventually phoned Dell up and told them to replace stuff until it worked.
Next day they came in, replaced motherboard, cpu's and memory and it worked just like a new machine (strangely enough). Never had the problem again.
Wished they'd replaced the case too - that scratch is bugging me. Maybe should drop it in a bucket of water and try again.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We buy all our dells with Prosupport .
I had the slowdown for ages - drove me crazy .
Everyone at work blamed Linux ( which it is running ) .
Eventually phoned Dell up and told them to replace stuff until it worked .
Next day they came in , replaced motherboard , cpu 's and memory and it worked just like a new machine ( strangely enough ) .
Never had the problem again .
Wished they 'd replaced the case too - that scratch is bugging me .
Maybe should drop it in a bucket of water and try again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We buy all our dells with Prosupport.
I had the slowdown for ages - drove me crazy.
Everyone at work blamed Linux (which it is running).
Eventually phoned Dell up and told them to replace stuff until it worked.
Next day they came in, replaced motherboard, cpu's and memory and it worked just like a new machine (strangely enough).
Never had the problem again.
Wished they'd replaced the case too - that scratch is bugging me.
Maybe should drop it in a bucket of water and try again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30282698</id>
	<title>Re:Scours?</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1259680440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I am frome the 17th cenchurie, ande the worde is moste deffinetlie "scowers."</i></p><p>You be scowler from Trantor?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am frome the 17th cenchurie , ande the worde is moste deffinetlie " scowers .
" You be scowler from Trantor ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am frome the 17th cenchurie, ande the worde is moste deffinetlie "scowers.
"You be scowler from Trantor?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274812</id>
	<title>Re:Oh for the love of god ... Throttlegate?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259576040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, can we scour the editors?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , can we scour the editors ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, can we scour the editors?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274762</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276882</id>
	<title>Re:Ok, so Dell sucks.</title>
	<author>BradleyUffner</author>
	<datestamp>1259583840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I recomend Polywell.  I've gotten great hardware, and fantastic support from them over the last 2 years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I recomend Polywell .
I 've gotten great hardware , and fantastic support from them over the last 2 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recomend Polywell.
I've gotten great hardware, and fantastic support from them over the last 2 years.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276042</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30278686</id>
	<title>Kill the system idle process</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259596500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hear that helps.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hear that helps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hear that helps.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274746</id>
	<title>Has anyone been able to see the report?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259575680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I click on the link and well, I think it's being hosted by one of these Dells</htmltext>
<tokenext>I click on the link and well , I think it 's being hosted by one of these Dells</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I click on the link and well, I think it's being hosted by one of these Dells</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30279302</id>
	<title>Idle Frequency</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259602080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We had a saying at my old work - all processors idle at approximately the same speed. Seems like they're taking this to the extreme</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We had a saying at my old work - all processors idle at approximately the same speed .
Seems like they 're taking this to the extreme</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We had a saying at my old work - all processors idle at approximately the same speed.
Seems like they're taking this to the extreme</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30276810</id>
	<title>Re:I have a E6400, how do I test this?</title>
	<author>atomic-penguin</author>
	<datestamp>1259583540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have the same setup e6400 with an Nvidia Quadro NVS 160M running Ubuntu.</p><p>Here is how I detected the problem. Add a CPU frequency governor applet to one of your taskbars.  If you choose the "performance" governor profile with the applet, and your CPU scales down to 800Mhz on occasion, then you are experiencing this problem.  You can also use the gkrellm application to monitor CPU, mobo ambient, and GPU temperatures.</p><p>I've been monitoring the ambient temperature in my cube at work, and the temperature never goes more than a few degrees over room temperature. However the system begins running too hot, and scales down, for no obvious reason at all.  A cooling pad or laptop stand, has mitigated the problem for the most part.</p><p>The problem is very noticeable when a laptop with 4 Gb of RAM, and dual ~2.5Ghz CPUs, suddenly starts acting like it is running on a 486.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have the same setup e6400 with an Nvidia Quadro NVS 160M running Ubuntu.Here is how I detected the problem .
Add a CPU frequency governor applet to one of your taskbars .
If you choose the " performance " governor profile with the applet , and your CPU scales down to 800Mhz on occasion , then you are experiencing this problem .
You can also use the gkrellm application to monitor CPU , mobo ambient , and GPU temperatures.I 've been monitoring the ambient temperature in my cube at work , and the temperature never goes more than a few degrees over room temperature .
However the system begins running too hot , and scales down , for no obvious reason at all .
A cooling pad or laptop stand , has mitigated the problem for the most part.The problem is very noticeable when a laptop with 4 Gb of RAM , and dual ~ 2.5Ghz CPUs , suddenly starts acting like it is running on a 486 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have the same setup e6400 with an Nvidia Quadro NVS 160M running Ubuntu.Here is how I detected the problem.
Add a CPU frequency governor applet to one of your taskbars.
If you choose the "performance" governor profile with the applet, and your CPU scales down to 800Mhz on occasion, then you are experiencing this problem.
You can also use the gkrellm application to monitor CPU, mobo ambient, and GPU temperatures.I've been monitoring the ambient temperature in my cube at work, and the temperature never goes more than a few degrees over room temperature.
However the system begins running too hot, and scales down, for no obvious reason at all.
A cooling pad or laptop stand, has mitigated the problem for the most part.The problem is very noticeable when a laptop with 4 Gb of RAM, and dual ~2.5Ghz CPUs, suddenly starts acting like it is running on a 486.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275564</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30277098</id>
	<title>Re:The E-series has been craptastic all along</title>
	<author>Orbijx</author>
	<datestamp>1259584800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>At least when the Optiplex GX<em>62</em>0 power supplies all failed a few years ago</p></div><p>Fixed that.</p><p>The part failure in the GX2<em>x</em>0 range was the Motherboard, with a capacitor issue.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least when the Optiplex GX620 power supplies all failed a few years agoFixed that.The part failure in the GX2x0 range was the Motherboard , with a capacitor issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least when the Optiplex GX620 power supplies all failed a few years agoFixed that.The part failure in the GX2x0 range was the Motherboard, with a capacitor issue.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274794</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274836</id>
	<title>Come on dude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259576100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>you just have to hit the turbo button!  Duh!</htmltext>
<tokenext>you just have to hit the turbo button !
Duh !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you just have to hit the turbo button!
Duh!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274752</id>
	<title>lawyer: why wait?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259575740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They love these class action kind of stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They love these class action kind of stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They love these class action kind of stuff.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275534</id>
	<title>Re:The E-series has been craptastic all along</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259578920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>...the power management firmware seems like it was written by a roomful of meth-addicted monkeys.</i> Damn! Somebody has caught on to our BIOS development methodology! Now how are we going to quiet this down? (And you thought NORMAL monkeys flung a lot of feces? On the plus side, whenever productivity drops, we just threaten to start withholding their meth.)<br> <br>
Dell management</htmltext>
<tokenext>...the power management firmware seems like it was written by a roomful of meth-addicted monkeys .
Damn ! Somebody has caught on to our BIOS development methodology !
Now how are we going to quiet this down ?
( And you thought NORMAL monkeys flung a lot of feces ?
On the plus side , whenever productivity drops , we just threaten to start withholding their meth .
) Dell management</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...the power management firmware seems like it was written by a roomful of meth-addicted monkeys.
Damn! Somebody has caught on to our BIOS development methodology!
Now how are we going to quiet this down?
(And you thought NORMAL monkeys flung a lot of feces?
On the plus side, whenever productivity drops, we just threaten to start withholding their meth.
) 
Dell management</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30274794</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_1818207.30275002</id>
	<title>Post on Dell's forums</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259576940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.community.dell.com/forums/p/19247293/19591882.aspx?PageIndex=8" title="dell.com">Here's a post on Dell's forums describing the issue</a> [dell.com]</p><p>From the link:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Some key points from the report (keep in mind this is specifically for the E6500 with the NVIDIA graphics option, but much of this likely applies to the E6400 and/or the Intel integrated graphics option):</p><p>1.    The problem is NOT an overheating problem - the system simply does not overheat. It is due to premature and overly aggressive attempts at thermal control, invoked at what are NORMAL processor operating temperatures (65-80 Celsius), possibly due to faulty ACPI "passive cooling" parameter definitions and/or control methods.<br>2.    The problem is substantially more pronounced when the system is docked.<br>3.    The problem is aggravated somewhat by the use of dual monitors when docked as opposed to a single monitor.<br>4.    Since the problem is all about temperature, the higher the surrounding ambient temperature in the room, the sooner and the greater the performance  loss.<br>5.    The symptoms are much more highly correlated to elevated NVIDIA GPU temperature than elevated CPU core temperatures.</p><p>Some miscellaneous corollaries:</p><p>1.    Any blockage of air inlets or outlets (including, of course, dust) will aggravate the problem.<br>2.    The reason people report shockingly high percent CPU utilization statistics when their system slows down is that the overall capacity of their processor is degraded by the throttling mechanisms. The same processes running on a CPU that is subsequently throttled necessarily will demand a higher percentage of the processor's remaining capacity.<br>3.    The reason some folks report persistent slowness even after installing software to prevent CPU downclocking is that more than one throttling mechanism is in play here. In particular, Software-controlled Clock Modulation (also called On-Demand Clock Modulation) occurs in an almost completely invisible manner, as opposed to performance state changes (which are usually monitored by common utilities). Another often-invisible throttling mechanism is Dynamic FSB Frequency Switching (where the FSB frequency is slashed in half), though if you prevent performance state changes, that takes care of preventing this too (since it's part of state P3).<br>4.    The reason there aren't more complaints (though many are accumulating these days) is that users who experience this problem simply have no way of knowing what the cause is and are likely to blame the wrong thing (Windows, recently installed software, cooling hardware, etc.). Untold masses may be adversely affected by this problem, but nearly all of them wouldn't know it because there's no way for them to tell. Also, the problem is at its worst only when in a docked configuration, which may not be common.<br>5.    The reason complaints are escalating now more than before is that this is the first summer that people have had this system (in the Northern Hemisphere, anyway). I think it's safe to say that ambient temperatures are higher for most E6400/E6500 users now.<br>6.    The problem can be substantially mitigated by pointing an external fan at the system.<br>7.    The problem can also be mitigated by software, such as RMClock, that can override the throttling mechanisms in question, at the expense of negating all passive thermal management (though critical temperature shutdown mechanisms may remain in place).</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's a post on Dell 's forums describing the issue [ dell.com ] From the link : Some key points from the report ( keep in mind this is specifically for the E6500 with the NVIDIA graphics option , but much of this likely applies to the E6400 and/or the Intel integrated graphics option ) : 1 .
The problem is NOT an overheating problem - the system simply does not overheat .
It is due to premature and overly aggressive attempts at thermal control , invoked at what are NORMAL processor operating temperatures ( 65-80 Celsius ) , possibly due to faulty ACPI " passive cooling " parameter definitions and/or control methods.2 .
The problem is substantially more pronounced when the system is docked.3 .
The problem is aggravated somewhat by the use of dual monitors when docked as opposed to a single monitor.4 .
Since the problem is all about temperature , the higher the surrounding ambient temperature in the room , the sooner and the greater the performance loss.5 .
The symptoms are much more highly correlated to elevated NVIDIA GPU temperature than elevated CPU core temperatures.Some miscellaneous corollaries : 1 .
Any blockage of air inlets or outlets ( including , of course , dust ) will aggravate the problem.2 .
The reason people report shockingly high percent CPU utilization statistics when their system slows down is that the overall capacity of their processor is degraded by the throttling mechanisms .
The same processes running on a CPU that is subsequently throttled necessarily will demand a higher percentage of the processor 's remaining capacity.3 .
The reason some folks report persistent slowness even after installing software to prevent CPU downclocking is that more than one throttling mechanism is in play here .
In particular , Software-controlled Clock Modulation ( also called On-Demand Clock Modulation ) occurs in an almost completely invisible manner , as opposed to performance state changes ( which are usually monitored by common utilities ) .
Another often-invisible throttling mechanism is Dynamic FSB Frequency Switching ( where the FSB frequency is slashed in half ) , though if you prevent performance state changes , that takes care of preventing this too ( since it 's part of state P3 ) .4 .
The reason there are n't more complaints ( though many are accumulating these days ) is that users who experience this problem simply have no way of knowing what the cause is and are likely to blame the wrong thing ( Windows , recently installed software , cooling hardware , etc. ) .
Untold masses may be adversely affected by this problem , but nearly all of them would n't know it because there 's no way for them to tell .
Also , the problem is at its worst only when in a docked configuration , which may not be common.5 .
The reason complaints are escalating now more than before is that this is the first summer that people have had this system ( in the Northern Hemisphere , anyway ) .
I think it 's safe to say that ambient temperatures are higher for most E6400/E6500 users now.6 .
The problem can be substantially mitigated by pointing an external fan at the system.7 .
The problem can also be mitigated by software , such as RMClock , that can override the throttling mechanisms in question , at the expense of negating all passive thermal management ( though critical temperature shutdown mechanisms may remain in place ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's a post on Dell's forums describing the issue [dell.com]From the link:Some key points from the report (keep in mind this is specifically for the E6500 with the NVIDIA graphics option, but much of this likely applies to the E6400 and/or the Intel integrated graphics option):1.
The problem is NOT an overheating problem - the system simply does not overheat.
It is due to premature and overly aggressive attempts at thermal control, invoked at what are NORMAL processor operating temperatures (65-80 Celsius), possibly due to faulty ACPI "passive cooling" parameter definitions and/or control methods.2.
The problem is substantially more pronounced when the system is docked.3.
The problem is aggravated somewhat by the use of dual monitors when docked as opposed to a single monitor.4.
Since the problem is all about temperature, the higher the surrounding ambient temperature in the room, the sooner and the greater the performance  loss.5.
The symptoms are much more highly correlated to elevated NVIDIA GPU temperature than elevated CPU core temperatures.Some miscellaneous corollaries:1.
Any blockage of air inlets or outlets (including, of course, dust) will aggravate the problem.2.
The reason people report shockingly high percent CPU utilization statistics when their system slows down is that the overall capacity of their processor is degraded by the throttling mechanisms.
The same processes running on a CPU that is subsequently throttled necessarily will demand a higher percentage of the processor's remaining capacity.3.
The reason some folks report persistent slowness even after installing software to prevent CPU downclocking is that more than one throttling mechanism is in play here.
In particular, Software-controlled Clock Modulation (also called On-Demand Clock Modulation) occurs in an almost completely invisible manner, as opposed to performance state changes (which are usually monitored by common utilities).
Another often-invisible throttling mechanism is Dynamic FSB Frequency Switching (where the FSB frequency is slashed in half), though if you prevent performance state changes, that takes care of preventing this too (since it's part of state P3).4.
The reason there aren't more complaints (though many are accumulating these days) is that users who experience this problem simply have no way of knowing what the cause is and are likely to blame the wrong thing (Windows, recently installed software, cooling hardware, etc.).
Untold masses may be adversely affected by this problem, but nearly all of them wouldn't know it because there's no way for them to tell.
Also, the problem is at its worst only when in a docked configuration, which may not be common.5.
The reason complaints are escalating now more than before is that this is the first summer that people have had this system (in the Northern Hemisphere, anyway).
I think it's safe to say that ambient temperatures are higher for most E6400/E6500 users now.6.
The problem can be substantially mitigated by pointing an external fan at the system.7.
The problem can also be mitigated by software, such as RMClock, that can override the throttling mechanisms in question, at the expense of negating all passive thermal management (though critical temperature shutdown mechanisms may remain in place).
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