<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_30_0225234</id>
	<title>Air Cannon Ties Pirates In Knots</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1259598000000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://hughpickens.com/" rel="nofollow">Hugh Pickens</a> writes <i>"Numerous high-tech devices have been proposed to <a href="//tech.slashdot.org/story/09/04/23/1638229/Mariners-Develop-High-Tech-Pirate-Repellents">help ships cope with piracy on the high seas</a>. Now a company has developed a ship-borne launching device that fires a net or coiled rope into the path of pirate vessels using compressed air with a range of up to a range of 400m. The payload net or rope, which has a parachute attached to the end, will unravel and lay out across the surface of the water so that as the pirate boat travels through the water its propeller shaft will <a href="http://www.theengineer.co.uk/sectors/military-and-defence/tying-pirates-in-knots/1000091.article">pick up the line and become entangled</a>. 'With the trials and testing we've done, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1GGoBidtk">it has taken us some 45 minutes to cut and disentangle the line from the propeller itself</a>,' says Jonathan Delf. 'Within that time of course, the target ship is on its way and hopefully help has arrived in the form of naval forces or helicopter support.' The system can be fired up to five times off just a cylinder of air like a simple scuba tank."</i> The video mentions that the device can also fire a payload of golf balls. The systems have recently been sold to "several large shipping companies that travel near the oil-rich Nigerian Delta, which, like the Somalian coast, is rife with piracy."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hugh Pickens writes " Numerous high-tech devices have been proposed to help ships cope with piracy on the high seas .
Now a company has developed a ship-borne launching device that fires a net or coiled rope into the path of pirate vessels using compressed air with a range of up to a range of 400m .
The payload net or rope , which has a parachute attached to the end , will unravel and lay out across the surface of the water so that as the pirate boat travels through the water its propeller shaft will pick up the line and become entangled .
'With the trials and testing we 've done , it has taken us some 45 minutes to cut and disentangle the line from the propeller itself, ' says Jonathan Delf .
'Within that time of course , the target ship is on its way and hopefully help has arrived in the form of naval forces or helicopter support .
' The system can be fired up to five times off just a cylinder of air like a simple scuba tank .
" The video mentions that the device can also fire a payload of golf balls .
The systems have recently been sold to " several large shipping companies that travel near the oil-rich Nigerian Delta , which , like the Somalian coast , is rife with piracy .
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<sentencetext>Hugh Pickens writes "Numerous high-tech devices have been proposed to help ships cope with piracy on the high seas.
Now a company has developed a ship-borne launching device that fires a net or coiled rope into the path of pirate vessels using compressed air with a range of up to a range of 400m.
The payload net or rope, which has a parachute attached to the end, will unravel and lay out across the surface of the water so that as the pirate boat travels through the water its propeller shaft will pick up the line and become entangled.
'With the trials and testing we've done, it has taken us some 45 minutes to cut and disentangle the line from the propeller itself,' says Jonathan Delf.
'Within that time of course, the target ship is on its way and hopefully help has arrived in the form of naval forces or helicopter support.
' The system can be fired up to five times off just a cylinder of air like a simple scuba tank.
" The video mentions that the device can also fire a payload of golf balls.
The systems have recently been sold to "several large shipping companies that travel near the oil-rich Nigerian Delta, which, like the Somalian coast, is rife with piracy.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266518</id>
	<title>Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259515680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the number of pirates would be reduced if the shipping vessels had small autocannons mounted on them.   No jalopie fishing trawler can take a burst of 35mm AP shells for very long.  Problem solved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the number of pirates would be reduced if the shipping vessels had small autocannons mounted on them .
No jalopie fishing trawler can take a burst of 35mm AP shells for very long .
Problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the number of pirates would be reduced if the shipping vessels had small autocannons mounted on them.
No jalopie fishing trawler can take a burst of 35mm AP shells for very long.
Problem solved.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268338</id>
	<title>Use paint balls</title>
	<author>Quatermass</author>
	<datestamp>1259578980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey paint ball them!</p><p>Then the police can track them on land if they use long staining paint?</p><p>Or is that too obvious?</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey paint ball them ! Then the police can track them on land if they use long staining paint ? Or is that too obvious ?
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey paint ball them!Then the police can track them on land if they use long staining paint?Or is that too obvious?
 </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266506</id>
	<title>Golf balls?  Ropes?  Parachutes?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259515620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just <i>shoot</i> the fuckers already.  Pretty soon there won't be any more of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just shoot the fuckers already .
Pretty soon there wo n't be any more of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just shoot the fuckers already.
Pretty soon there won't be any more of them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267472</id>
	<title>stary nets</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259524440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are'nt these really bad. Like they kill whales or something.</p><p>Im in favor of real guns.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are'nt these really bad .
Like they kill whales or something.Im in favor of real guns .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are'nt these really bad.
Like they kill whales or something.Im in favor of real guns.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30271440</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259604960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Plus capturing the pirate allows law enforcement to find out where their bases are, who fences their stolen goods, etc.</p><p>So instead of shooting the equivalent of a McDonald's counter jockey, you eventually get to shoot the CEO.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Plus capturing the pirate allows law enforcement to find out where their bases are , who fences their stolen goods , etc.So instead of shooting the equivalent of a McDonald 's counter jockey , you eventually get to shoot the CEO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plus capturing the pirate allows law enforcement to find out where their bases are, who fences their stolen goods, etc.So instead of shooting the equivalent of a McDonald's counter jockey, you eventually get to shoot the CEO.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266678</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268782</id>
	<title>One decent shot rifleman and one anti-material...</title>
	<author>Assmasher</author>
	<datestamp>1259585700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...rifle = no pirates.</p><p>Of course, any defense will lead to the warhead vs. armor race as the pirates adjust (for example shrouding their props to avoid coiling, or welding steel plates over critical areas to prevent<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.50 cal long rifle shots) versus commercial ships purchasing 20mm weapons.  It's surprising given the monies involved that some of these ships don't carry them already.  There must be some law against them arming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...rifle = no pirates.Of course , any defense will lead to the warhead vs. armor race as the pirates adjust ( for example shrouding their props to avoid coiling , or welding steel plates over critical areas to prevent .50 cal long rifle shots ) versus commercial ships purchasing 20mm weapons .
It 's surprising given the monies involved that some of these ships do n't carry them already .
There must be some law against them arming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...rifle = no pirates.Of course, any defense will lead to the warhead vs. armor race as the pirates adjust (for example shrouding their props to avoid coiling, or welding steel plates over critical areas to prevent .50 cal long rifle shots) versus commercial ships purchasing 20mm weapons.
It's surprising given the monies involved that some of these ships don't carry them already.
There must be some law against them arming.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30275336</id>
	<title>How silly can you get?</title>
	<author>thethibs</author>
	<datestamp>1259578320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is quite possibly the silliest substitute for a 20mm cannon ever proposed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is quite possibly the silliest substitute for a 20mm cannon ever proposed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is quite possibly the silliest substitute for a 20mm cannon ever proposed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268688</id>
	<title>Ninja4Hire...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259584500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I say instead of spending the money on this crap, get yourself 5 ninjas... that should be enough to take out all the pirates in the area! I recently saw the movie 'Ninja Assassins' and have been training to be a ninja, contact me if you'd like to hire me full time once my training is complete.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I say instead of spending the money on this crap , get yourself 5 ninjas... that should be enough to take out all the pirates in the area !
I recently saw the movie 'Ninja Assassins ' and have been training to be a ninja , contact me if you 'd like to hire me full time once my training is complete .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I say instead of spending the money on this crap, get yourself 5 ninjas... that should be enough to take out all the pirates in the area!
I recently saw the movie 'Ninja Assassins' and have been training to be a ninja, contact me if you'd like to hire me full time once my training is complete.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268036</id>
	<title>Re:Mean and nasty!</title>
	<author>ObsessiveMathsFreak</author>
	<datestamp>1259575080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Nice idea. I absolutely hate it when crap gets stuck in the prop.</p></div></blockquote><p>Then why do you think it is a good idea to have hundreds of these "net-mines" floating around coastal waters?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice idea .
I absolutely hate it when crap gets stuck in the prop.Then why do you think it is a good idea to have hundreds of these " net-mines " floating around coastal waters ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nice idea.
I absolutely hate it when crap gets stuck in the prop.Then why do you think it is a good idea to have hundreds of these "net-mines" floating around coastal waters?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266502</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266740</id>
	<title>Re:Golf balls? Ropes? Parachutes?!</title>
	<author>gzipped\_tar</author>
	<datestamp>1259517420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I were a navy commander, instead of shooting the bastard pirates, I would rather prefer keeping them alive and <em>using</em> them. As long as the pirates are alive and well, they can be manipulated to disrupt an enemy states transportation of vital material, gather intelligence, wreck panic and fear in an enemy state's civilians/government, etc.</p><p>Who do you think are providing the coordinates of victim cargo ships to the poorly equipped pirates?</p><p>The whole "pirate fighting" thing is a scam. Or rather, a game played by major military forces in which the pirates are not the objective, but the material.</p><p>Do you really think the pirates are so tough an enemy for a superpower like the USA?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I were a navy commander , instead of shooting the bastard pirates , I would rather prefer keeping them alive and using them .
As long as the pirates are alive and well , they can be manipulated to disrupt an enemy states transportation of vital material , gather intelligence , wreck panic and fear in an enemy state 's civilians/government , etc.Who do you think are providing the coordinates of victim cargo ships to the poorly equipped pirates ? The whole " pirate fighting " thing is a scam .
Or rather , a game played by major military forces in which the pirates are not the objective , but the material.Do you really think the pirates are so tough an enemy for a superpower like the USA ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I were a navy commander, instead of shooting the bastard pirates, I would rather prefer keeping them alive and using them.
As long as the pirates are alive and well, they can be manipulated to disrupt an enemy states transportation of vital material, gather intelligence, wreck panic and fear in an enemy state's civilians/government, etc.Who do you think are providing the coordinates of victim cargo ships to the poorly equipped pirates?The whole "pirate fighting" thing is a scam.
Or rather, a game played by major military forces in which the pirates are not the objective, but the material.Do you really think the pirates are so tough an enemy for a superpower like the USA?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269836</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>Tuoqui</author>
	<datestamp>1259595840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes but if you're hauling golf balls then it's a totally awesome option.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes but if you 're hauling golf balls then it 's a totally awesome option .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes but if you're hauling golf balls then it's a totally awesome option.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266630</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268814</id>
	<title>What's wrong with land-based technologies?</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1259586300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Numerous high-tech devices have been proposed to help ships cope with piracy on the high seas</p></div>
</blockquote><p>Is there any reason land-based technologies like DRM don't work against piracy on the high seas?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Numerous high-tech devices have been proposed to help ships cope with piracy on the high seas Is there any reason land-based technologies like DRM do n't work against piracy on the high seas ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Numerous high-tech devices have been proposed to help ships cope with piracy on the high seas
Is there any reason land-based technologies like DRM don't work against piracy on the high seas?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268896</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>vegiVamp</author>
	<datestamp>1259587440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, especially because everyone in the world speaks fluent english.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , especially because everyone in the world speaks fluent english .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, especially because everyone in the world speaks fluent english.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268870</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>uncqual</author>
	<datestamp>1259587080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That's a bad idea.  Typically the pirates don't kill the crew.  If you started having hostile crews using lethal force against pirates, you may see the pirates escalate their attack and use more deadly force.  In the end everyone loses.</p></div><p>If, on the average, 20\% of the pirate attacks result in all the pirates being killed...
<br> <br>
Pirate recuiting gets harder.
<br> <br>
Unarmed ships will still be taken...
<br> <br>
But pirates can't kill the crew members of unarmed ships (a dead guy isn't worth much ransom).
<br> <br>
Unarmed ships decide each month (unknown to the pirates) if they want to continue to be prey or invest in protection.
<br> <br>
Think game theory...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a bad idea .
Typically the pirates do n't kill the crew .
If you started having hostile crews using lethal force against pirates , you may see the pirates escalate their attack and use more deadly force .
In the end everyone loses.If , on the average , 20 \ % of the pirate attacks result in all the pirates being killed.. . Pirate recuiting gets harder .
Unarmed ships will still be taken.. . But pirates ca n't kill the crew members of unarmed ships ( a dead guy is n't worth much ransom ) .
Unarmed ships decide each month ( unknown to the pirates ) if they want to continue to be prey or invest in protection .
Think game theory.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a bad idea.
Typically the pirates don't kill the crew.
If you started having hostile crews using lethal force against pirates, you may see the pirates escalate their attack and use more deadly force.
In the end everyone loses.If, on the average, 20\% of the pirate attacks result in all the pirates being killed...
 
Pirate recuiting gets harder.
Unarmed ships will still be taken...
 
But pirates can't kill the crew members of unarmed ships (a dead guy isn't worth much ransom).
Unarmed ships decide each month (unknown to the pirates) if they want to continue to be prey or invest in protection.
Think game theory...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266780</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269256</id>
	<title>Even better</title>
	<author>chord.wav</author>
	<datestamp>1259591580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Point behind them and shout real loud "Look behind you, a Three-Headed Monkey!" and flee. It is a well known fact that they'll turn around to see.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Point behind them and shout real loud " Look behind you , a Three-Headed Monkey !
" and flee .
It is a well known fact that they 'll turn around to see .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Point behind them and shout real loud "Look behind you, a Three-Headed Monkey!
" and flee.
It is a well known fact that they'll turn around to see.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268838</id>
	<title>Re:Golf balls? Ropes? Parachutes?!</title>
	<author>krygny</author>
	<datestamp>1259586720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I were a pirate, the risk from these devices would not deter me. What have I got to lose? However, the risk of being blown in to a fine pink mist <i>might</i> deter me. And the act of being blown in to a fine pink mist certainly would.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I were a pirate , the risk from these devices would not deter me .
What have I got to lose ?
However , the risk of being blown in to a fine pink mist might deter me .
And the act of being blown in to a fine pink mist certainly would .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I were a pirate, the risk from these devices would not deter me.
What have I got to lose?
However, the risk of being blown in to a fine pink mist might deter me.
And the act of being blown in to a fine pink mist certainly would.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30270938</id>
	<title>Torpedoes?!?</title>
	<author>A nonymous Coward</author>
	<datestamp>1259602560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What brought that nonsense into your head?</p><p>Machine guns?  Plain old semi-autos do the trick better.</p><p>You sound like a typical hoplophobe, turning molehills into mountains, the better to scare yourself with.</p><p>Torpedoes!  That really takes the cake!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What brought that nonsense into your head ? Machine guns ?
Plain old semi-autos do the trick better.You sound like a typical hoplophobe , turning molehills into mountains , the better to scare yourself with.Torpedoes !
That really takes the cake !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What brought that nonsense into your head?Machine guns?
Plain old semi-autos do the trick better.You sound like a typical hoplophobe, turning molehills into mountains, the better to scare yourself with.Torpedoes!
That really takes the cake!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266620</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266548</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Logic Worshipper</author>
	<datestamp>1259515980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And if you shot fishermen or other innocent people by accident?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And if you shot fishermen or other innocent people by accident ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if you shot fishermen or other innocent people by accident?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266518</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267064</id>
	<title>Nets in the sea...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259520120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What kind of environmental damage could this cause?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What kind of environmental damage could this cause ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What kind of environmental damage could this cause?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269072</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>WhatAmIDoingHere</author>
	<datestamp>1259589960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When a ship gets close enough to you for you to be able to visually signal them one of two things are happening.  One, the ship's radio is out, and when they get into visual range they'll respond to your visual signals.  Two, they're pirates about to assault your ship.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When a ship gets close enough to you for you to be able to visually signal them one of two things are happening .
One , the ship 's radio is out , and when they get into visual range they 'll respond to your visual signals .
Two , they 're pirates about to assault your ship .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When a ship gets close enough to you for you to be able to visually signal them one of two things are happening.
One, the ship's radio is out, and when they get into visual range they'll respond to your visual signals.
Two, they're pirates about to assault your ship.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266678</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268972</id>
	<title>But how will this stop them downloading??</title>
	<author>EdgeyEdgey</author>
	<datestamp>1259588820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>ah...</htmltext>
<tokenext>ah.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ah...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266950</id>
	<title>Cook them long distance</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259519100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p><a href="http://news.slashdot.org/story/07/01/25/1330256/US-Military-Tests-Non-Lethal-Heat-Ray" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">See how long they can chase you with this trained on them.</a> [slashdot.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>See how long they can chase you with this trained on them .
[ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See how long they can chase you with this trained on them.
[slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267832</id>
	<title>Re:Retard!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259572020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So they had water cannons, noise makers, and now a flippin' rope cannon?  Give those ships real guns with real bullets already!  These pirates mean business.  Any resistance these pirates meet is often returned with lethal force.  Giving in to them and paying ransom is just calling for more of the same.  Pay the Danegeld and you don't get rid of the Dane.</p><p>These ships need to have weapons that can match or surpass what the pirates have.  Bolt a 25 mike mike to the deck if you must.  Some little ship comes screaming up to your ship with guys carrying machine guns and rocket launchers shooting at you then its weapons free.  They understand return fire.  Make it too difficult to be worth their time and the piracy will stop.</p><p>All of this less than lethal crap has got to end.  Give those ships real guns with real bullets!</p><p>Yep, I'm a bit perturbed over this.  All this politically correct crap is getting people killed.</p></div><p>It's only about political correctness if you're a fucking moron.</p><p>Say we start arming all merchant vessels with whatever they want or need to protect themselves. Cool. Dead pirates everywhere.   Shipping essentially becomes sending masses of military vehicles at other countries. Are you people so short-sighted that you don't realize what that leads to? Accidents. And that leads to war.</p><p>How do we tell the shippers from the pirates anyway? If we got two black guys firing at each other on deck when the military comes to the rescue, how do we tell who is defending? In your action movie mindset the miltary kills/wounds them both and sorts it out later. In real life that is an unacceptable solution.</p><p>Or, imagine dictators sending tons of commercial vessels at their enemies who then go unload and take it over. "Oh? These tanks and helicopters? err....they protect us against pirates. Can never be to safe, y'know! I'm just here to deliver my shipment of sex toys and stuffed animals, honest!"</p><p>
&nbsp; It would destroy their jobs if they couldn't be trusted to port to offload their crap. The entire global economy would slow down. What do you think about the economic impact Mr Genius Libertarian?</p></div>
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<tokenext>So they had water cannons , noise makers , and now a flippin ' rope cannon ?
Give those ships real guns with real bullets already !
These pirates mean business .
Any resistance these pirates meet is often returned with lethal force .
Giving in to them and paying ransom is just calling for more of the same .
Pay the Danegeld and you do n't get rid of the Dane.These ships need to have weapons that can match or surpass what the pirates have .
Bolt a 25 mike mike to the deck if you must .
Some little ship comes screaming up to your ship with guys carrying machine guns and rocket launchers shooting at you then its weapons free .
They understand return fire .
Make it too difficult to be worth their time and the piracy will stop.All of this less than lethal crap has got to end .
Give those ships real guns with real bullets ! Yep , I 'm a bit perturbed over this .
All this politically correct crap is getting people killed.It 's only about political correctness if you 're a fucking moron.Say we start arming all merchant vessels with whatever they want or need to protect themselves .
Cool. Dead pirates everywhere .
Shipping essentially becomes sending masses of military vehicles at other countries .
Are you people so short-sighted that you do n't realize what that leads to ?
Accidents. And that leads to war.How do we tell the shippers from the pirates anyway ?
If we got two black guys firing at each other on deck when the military comes to the rescue , how do we tell who is defending ?
In your action movie mindset the miltary kills/wounds them both and sorts it out later .
In real life that is an unacceptable solution.Or , imagine dictators sending tons of commercial vessels at their enemies who then go unload and take it over .
" Oh ? These tanks and helicopters ?
err....they protect us against pirates .
Can never be to safe , y'know !
I 'm just here to deliver my shipment of sex toys and stuffed animals , honest !
"   It would destroy their jobs if they could n't be trusted to port to offload their crap .
The entire global economy would slow down .
What do you think about the economic impact Mr Genius Libertarian ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they had water cannons, noise makers, and now a flippin' rope cannon?
Give those ships real guns with real bullets already!
These pirates mean business.
Any resistance these pirates meet is often returned with lethal force.
Giving in to them and paying ransom is just calling for more of the same.
Pay the Danegeld and you don't get rid of the Dane.These ships need to have weapons that can match or surpass what the pirates have.
Bolt a 25 mike mike to the deck if you must.
Some little ship comes screaming up to your ship with guys carrying machine guns and rocket launchers shooting at you then its weapons free.
They understand return fire.
Make it too difficult to be worth their time and the piracy will stop.All of this less than lethal crap has got to end.
Give those ships real guns with real bullets!Yep, I'm a bit perturbed over this.
All this politically correct crap is getting people killed.It's only about political correctness if you're a fucking moron.Say we start arming all merchant vessels with whatever they want or need to protect themselves.
Cool. Dead pirates everywhere.
Shipping essentially becomes sending masses of military vehicles at other countries.
Are you people so short-sighted that you don't realize what that leads to?
Accidents. And that leads to war.How do we tell the shippers from the pirates anyway?
If we got two black guys firing at each other on deck when the military comes to the rescue, how do we tell who is defending?
In your action movie mindset the miltary kills/wounds them both and sorts it out later.
In real life that is an unacceptable solution.Or, imagine dictators sending tons of commercial vessels at their enemies who then go unload and take it over.
"Oh? These tanks and helicopters?
err....they protect us against pirates.
Can never be to safe, y'know!
I'm just here to deliver my shipment of sex toys and stuffed animals, honest!
"
  It would destroy their jobs if they couldn't be trusted to port to offload their crap.
The entire global economy would slow down.
What do you think about the economic impact Mr Genius Libertarian?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269740</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>b4upoo</author>
	<datestamp>1259595180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>        This new system sounds about as potent as a potato cannon. Apparently the real issue is that foreign ports are closed to merchant ships that carry weapons. I propose that a tow behind weapons platform be towed behind cargo vessels. Then when they wish to enter foreign ports they simply anchor their weapons platforms at sea when the vessels wish to enter harbors. That would quickly allow us to kill off the pirates. Alternately we could use predator aircraft to kill off any hostile vessels that approach shipping.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This new system sounds about as potent as a potato cannon .
Apparently the real issue is that foreign ports are closed to merchant ships that carry weapons .
I propose that a tow behind weapons platform be towed behind cargo vessels .
Then when they wish to enter foreign ports they simply anchor their weapons platforms at sea when the vessels wish to enter harbors .
That would quickly allow us to kill off the pirates .
Alternately we could use predator aircraft to kill off any hostile vessels that approach shipping .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>        This new system sounds about as potent as a potato cannon.
Apparently the real issue is that foreign ports are closed to merchant ships that carry weapons.
I propose that a tow behind weapons platform be towed behind cargo vessels.
Then when they wish to enter foreign ports they simply anchor their weapons platforms at sea when the vessels wish to enter harbors.
That would quickly allow us to kill off the pirates.
Alternately we could use predator aircraft to kill off any hostile vessels that approach shipping.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268636</id>
	<title>reason...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>nobody mentioned using reason on them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>nobody mentioned using reason on them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nobody mentioned using reason on them?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268938</id>
	<title>Re:Golf balls? Ropes? Parachutes?!</title>
	<author>bcmm</author>
	<datestamp>1259588040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Just shoot the fuckers already. Pretty soon there won't be any more of them.</p></div></blockquote><p>

From now on, whenever you think "lethal weapons on civilian ships would stop piracy", I want you to consider that this is the same as "lots of armed Chinese marines in Los Angeles Harbor would stop piracy". Then put yourself in the shoes of a President trying to push some kind of international convention permitting that.<br> <br>Thank you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just shoot the fuckers already .
Pretty soon there wo n't be any more of them .
From now on , whenever you think " lethal weapons on civilian ships would stop piracy " , I want you to consider that this is the same as " lots of armed Chinese marines in Los Angeles Harbor would stop piracy " .
Then put yourself in the shoes of a President trying to push some kind of international convention permitting that .
Thank you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just shoot the fuckers already.
Pretty soon there won't be any more of them.
From now on, whenever you think "lethal weapons on civilian ships would stop piracy", I want you to consider that this is the same as "lots of armed Chinese marines in Los Angeles Harbor would stop piracy".
Then put yourself in the shoes of a President trying to push some kind of international convention permitting that.
Thank you.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269118</id>
	<title>This is do-able in the US</title>
	<author>chainsaw1</author>
	<datestamp>1259590380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The USA was not a member of the Treaty of Paris, and Ron Paul has expressed interest in issuing Letters of Marque against Somali Pirates...</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter\_of\_marque" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter\_of\_marque</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>However, the price of fueling a small to medium sized vessel from Maine to Virginia or Virginia to Florida is about $10,000.  Good luck getting it around Cape Horn (since Suez Canal Authority probably isn't going to like your private, armed ship coming through)</p><p>Maybe if it was a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... sailing ship?  Arr!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The USA was not a member of the Treaty of Paris , and Ron Paul has expressed interest in issuing Letters of Marque against Somali Pirates...http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter \ _of \ _marque [ wikipedia.org ] However , the price of fueling a small to medium sized vessel from Maine to Virginia or Virginia to Florida is about $ 10,000 .
Good luck getting it around Cape Horn ( since Suez Canal Authority probably is n't going to like your private , armed ship coming through ) Maybe if it was a ... sailing ship ?
Arr !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The USA was not a member of the Treaty of Paris, and Ron Paul has expressed interest in issuing Letters of Marque against Somali Pirates...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter\_of\_marque [wikipedia.org]However, the price of fueling a small to medium sized vessel from Maine to Virginia or Virginia to Florida is about $10,000.
Good luck getting it around Cape Horn (since Suez Canal Authority probably isn't going to like your private, armed ship coming through)Maybe if it was a ... sailing ship?
Arr!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30270400</id>
	<title>Re:D....waving on the Internet</title>
	<author>Toze</author>
	<datestamp>1259599440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Chickenhawks?" Really?
<p>
First, this isn't about war in the middle east. Nobody here is advocating starting a war while actively avoiding military service.<br>
Second, the pirates are aggressors. Slashdotters aren't suggesting merchants go out and hunt pirates, they're debating the merits of <i>shooting back</i>, and with what.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Chickenhawks ?
" Really ?
First , this is n't about war in the middle east .
Nobody here is advocating starting a war while actively avoiding military service .
Second , the pirates are aggressors .
Slashdotters are n't suggesting merchants go out and hunt pirates , they 're debating the merits of shooting back , and with what .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Chickenhawks?
" Really?
First, this isn't about war in the middle east.
Nobody here is advocating starting a war while actively avoiding military service.
Second, the pirates are aggressors.
Slashdotters aren't suggesting merchants go out and hunt pirates, they're debating the merits of shooting back, and with what.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30277282</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>tftp</author>
	<datestamp>1259585760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>I propose that a tow behind weapons platform be towed behind cargo vessels. Then when they wish to enter foreign ports they simply anchor their weapons platforms at sea when the vessels wish to enter harbors.</i>
</p><p>
There is an easier way. Each foreign port places a large old ship, a barge, or something just outside their border. Incoming ships can send their guards, with their weapons, to that floating hotel for the duration of the stay in the port. If the guards want they can leave the weapons there, come back and enter the port. Weapons will be guarded by the port's security and returned when the ship leaves the port.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I propose that a tow behind weapons platform be towed behind cargo vessels .
Then when they wish to enter foreign ports they simply anchor their weapons platforms at sea when the vessels wish to enter harbors .
There is an easier way .
Each foreign port places a large old ship , a barge , or something just outside their border .
Incoming ships can send their guards , with their weapons , to that floating hotel for the duration of the stay in the port .
If the guards want they can leave the weapons there , come back and enter the port .
Weapons will be guarded by the port 's security and returned when the ship leaves the port .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I propose that a tow behind weapons platform be towed behind cargo vessels.
Then when they wish to enter foreign ports they simply anchor their weapons platforms at sea when the vessels wish to enter harbors.
There is an easier way.
Each foreign port places a large old ship, a barge, or something just outside their border.
Incoming ships can send their guards, with their weapons, to that floating hotel for the duration of the stay in the port.
If the guards want they can leave the weapons there, come back and enter the port.
Weapons will be guarded by the port's security and returned when the ship leaves the port.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30270082</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Ogive17</author>
	<datestamp>1259597520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've heard about the conditions in Somalia...  something tells me it might be an acceptable risk for the pirates.<br>
<br>
I would support lethal force to protect the cargo ships, but I understand why they are reluctant to do it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've heard about the conditions in Somalia... something tells me it might be an acceptable risk for the pirates .
I would support lethal force to protect the cargo ships , but I understand why they are reluctant to do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've heard about the conditions in Somalia...  something tells me it might be an acceptable risk for the pirates.
I would support lethal force to protect the cargo ships, but I understand why they are reluctant to do it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30271344</id>
	<title>Re:Golf balls? Ropes? Parachutes?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259604420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just <i>shoot</i> the fuckers already.  Pretty soon there won't be any more of them.</p></div><p>Wouldn't pirates stop trying to kidnap people and just kill them in retaliation? If I was attacked by less lethal means I'd be angry, but if someone was shooting at me I'd be filled with murderous rage.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just shoot the fuckers already .
Pretty soon there wo n't be any more of them.Would n't pirates stop trying to kidnap people and just kill them in retaliation ?
If I was attacked by less lethal means I 'd be angry , but if someone was shooting at me I 'd be filled with murderous rage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just shoot the fuckers already.
Pretty soon there won't be any more of them.Wouldn't pirates stop trying to kidnap people and just kill them in retaliation?
If I was attacked by less lethal means I'd be angry, but if someone was shooting at me I'd be filled with murderous rage.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30270092</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259597580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're not French, are you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're not French , are you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're not French, are you?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30279720</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259605980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And if you shot fishermen or other innocent people by accident?</p></div><p>Feels good, man.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And if you shot fishermen or other innocent people by accident ? Feels good , man .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if you shot fishermen or other innocent people by accident?Feels good, man.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266630</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259516460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Err, the massive propellers that most cargo ships use make trying to foul one useless? Unless that rope you're using is 20cm thick or better, good luck with fouling a prop whose average diameter would often dwarfs the pirate's boat entirely with room to spare. Hell, good luck fouling the prop by ramming your entire boat into it for that matter...</p><p>Maybe you meant the golf ball cannon option? Umm, okay - you only have to get the balls up 5-10 stories high, not counting superstructure, let alone the bridge. RPG's are probably more plentiful than golf balls in that part of the world, and tend to be a lot more portable, methinks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Err , the massive propellers that most cargo ships use make trying to foul one useless ?
Unless that rope you 're using is 20cm thick or better , good luck with fouling a prop whose average diameter would often dwarfs the pirate 's boat entirely with room to spare .
Hell , good luck fouling the prop by ramming your entire boat into it for that matter...Maybe you meant the golf ball cannon option ?
Umm , okay - you only have to get the balls up 5-10 stories high , not counting superstructure , let alone the bridge .
RPG 's are probably more plentiful than golf balls in that part of the world , and tend to be a lot more portable , methinks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Err, the massive propellers that most cargo ships use make trying to foul one useless?
Unless that rope you're using is 20cm thick or better, good luck with fouling a prop whose average diameter would often dwarfs the pirate's boat entirely with room to spare.
Hell, good luck fouling the prop by ramming your entire boat into it for that matter...Maybe you meant the golf ball cannon option?
Umm, okay - you only have to get the balls up 5-10 stories high, not counting superstructure, let alone the bridge.
RPG's are probably more plentiful than golf balls in that part of the world, and tend to be a lot more portable, methinks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268472</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>digitig</author>
	<datestamp>1259581320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Err, the massive propellers that most cargo ships use make trying to foul one useless?</p></div><p>But pirates don't just go after large cargo ships. They go after <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8332163.stm" title="bbc.co.uk">leisure craft</a> [bbc.co.uk] too, and this weapon looks as if it would be effective against them. Always the way with weapons, isn't it? You buy one and the bad guys buy one too.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Err , the massive propellers that most cargo ships use make trying to foul one useless ? But pirates do n't just go after large cargo ships .
They go after leisure craft [ bbc.co.uk ] too , and this weapon looks as if it would be effective against them .
Always the way with weapons , is n't it ?
You buy one and the bad guys buy one too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Err, the massive propellers that most cargo ships use make trying to foul one useless?But pirates don't just go after large cargo ships.
They go after leisure craft [bbc.co.uk] too, and this weapon looks as if it would be effective against them.
Always the way with weapons, isn't it?
You buy one and the bad guys buy one too.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269888</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Tuoqui</author>
	<datestamp>1259596320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Easy to tell the difference. Real Fishermen wont move towards the BIG HONKING CARGOSHIP and wave AK-47's around while firing in the air or other stupid shit like that. They usually give such ships wide berth because it can sink them if they dont see their ship.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Easy to tell the difference .
Real Fishermen wont move towards the BIG HONKING CARGOSHIP and wave AK-47 's around while firing in the air or other stupid shit like that .
They usually give such ships wide berth because it can sink them if they dont see their ship .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Easy to tell the difference.
Real Fishermen wont move towards the BIG HONKING CARGOSHIP and wave AK-47's around while firing in the air or other stupid shit like that.
They usually give such ships wide berth because it can sink them if they dont see their ship.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266994</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1259519520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
A weapon is only worth as much as you spend on training the crew to use it effectively.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A weapon is only worth as much as you spend on training the crew to use it effectively .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
A weapon is only worth as much as you spend on training the crew to use it effectively.
</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269874</id>
	<title>Re:Golf balls? Ropes? Parachutes?!</title>
	<author>theJML</author>
	<datestamp>1259596200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If we kill all the Pirates, then global warming is going to go up even faster!</p><p><a href="http://seanbonner.com/blog/archives/001857.php" title="seanbonner.com">http://seanbonner.com/blog/archives/001857.php</a> [seanbonner.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If we kill all the Pirates , then global warming is going to go up even faster ! http : //seanbonner.com/blog/archives/001857.php [ seanbonner.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we kill all the Pirates, then global warming is going to go up even faster!http://seanbonner.com/blog/archives/001857.php [seanbonner.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267712</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>dave420</author>
	<datestamp>1259613960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That raises the stakes somewhat, which is what every merchant ship in dangerous waters wants to avoid.  It's bad enough having the sea swarming with pirates, but when the pirates know they have to actually attack (instead of sneaking up and taking hostages without firing a shot), we're going to end up with a lot more dead folks on both sides.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That raises the stakes somewhat , which is what every merchant ship in dangerous waters wants to avoid .
It 's bad enough having the sea swarming with pirates , but when the pirates know they have to actually attack ( instead of sneaking up and taking hostages without firing a shot ) , we 're going to end up with a lot more dead folks on both sides .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That raises the stakes somewhat, which is what every merchant ship in dangerous waters wants to avoid.
It's bad enough having the sea swarming with pirates, but when the pirates know they have to actually attack (instead of sneaking up and taking hostages without firing a shot), we're going to end up with a lot more dead folks on both sides.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30270964</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>StayFrosty</author>
	<datestamp>1259602620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You must be American.</p></div><p>You must be delusional.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The answer to your question in the civilized world is: "Because only army and police carry guns".</p></div><p>Criminals would as well (regardless of the legality.)  If criminals did not have guns as well, why would the police need them?<br> <br>If shooting guns is such an uncivilized American thing, why is it an Olympic sport?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You must be American.You must be delusional.The answer to your question in the civilized world is : " Because only army and police carry guns " .Criminals would as well ( regardless of the legality .
) If criminals did not have guns as well , why would the police need them ?
If shooting guns is such an uncivilized American thing , why is it an Olympic sport ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You must be American.You must be delusional.The answer to your question in the civilized world is: "Because only army and police carry guns".Criminals would as well (regardless of the legality.
)  If criminals did not have guns as well, why would the police need them?
If shooting guns is such an uncivilized American thing, why is it an Olympic sport?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268266</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Moabz</author>
	<datestamp>1259577780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That would be clearly collateral damage of the war on terror. No big deal, problem solved.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That would be clearly collateral damage of the war on terror .
No big deal , problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That would be clearly collateral damage of the war on terror.
No big deal, problem solved.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266922</id>
	<title>Well personally</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259518860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think an M2HB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2\_Browning\_machine\_gun) would work better, but that's just me.</p><p>Seriously, I think it is time for nations to let cargo ships going this route arm themselves. We can set limits to the type and amount of weaponry, as well as require things like it be locked by the captain when the ship comes to port, but this is getting silly. I don't think it is right to tell the sailors that they can't respond when fired upon.</p><p>It also seems to be the only real solution at this point, well unless the world is interested in going in to another unstable region and trying to enforce their way, however it seems there is a recent example of why that is perhaps not a very good idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think an M2HB ( http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2 \ _Browning \ _machine \ _gun ) would work better , but that 's just me.Seriously , I think it is time for nations to let cargo ships going this route arm themselves .
We can set limits to the type and amount of weaponry , as well as require things like it be locked by the captain when the ship comes to port , but this is getting silly .
I do n't think it is right to tell the sailors that they ca n't respond when fired upon.It also seems to be the only real solution at this point , well unless the world is interested in going in to another unstable region and trying to enforce their way , however it seems there is a recent example of why that is perhaps not a very good idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think an M2HB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2\_Browning\_machine\_gun) would work better, but that's just me.Seriously, I think it is time for nations to let cargo ships going this route arm themselves.
We can set limits to the type and amount of weaponry, as well as require things like it be locked by the captain when the ship comes to port, but this is getting silly.
I don't think it is right to tell the sailors that they can't respond when fired upon.It also seems to be the only real solution at this point, well unless the world is interested in going in to another unstable region and trying to enforce their way, however it seems there is a recent example of why that is perhaps not a very good idea.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30272248</id>
	<title>Escalation...</title>
	<author>Guppy</author>
	<datestamp>1259608560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think a lot of the hesitancy in allowing vigorous armed responses has less to do with accidentally killing an innocent, than with larger issues like the possibility of triggering an international incident.  For a government, having an occasional merchant sailor be kidnapped or killed, is much less of a hassle than the diplomatic tangles that could occur when something goes wrong.  If a US sailor passing through Iranian waters shoots up a pirate craft, and kills a Russian prisoner aboard, it's going to get messy.</p><p>I see a lot of pooh-poohing of the chance something might go wrong, but remember that you're dealing with real life messiness.  You may not always be dealing with clear-headed thinkers.  In real life you get people who are spooked, gung-ho, inebriated, or just plain stupid.  Likewise, "repeated warnings" don't always carry the guarantee you think they might -- for instance, there was some case involving a civilian airplane shoot-down, where the pilots heard the warnings on the radio, and were like "Man, that other plane out there better turn around, they're starting to sound really serious!"</p><p>Current pirates may not be all that subtle in how they go about their business, but they <i>will</i> adapt to an armed response.  Perhaps they'll start disguising themselves as innocent traffic; perhaps they'll actually <i>be</i> riding on innocent traffic, with some poor fisherman or local ferry getting pressed into service.  Or maybe they'll have a handful of hostages from their previous pirating adventures serving as human shields.  Escalation is to be expected.</p><p>In any case, it's possible the popularity of non-lethal techniques like these may have less to do with protecting sailors, and more with ship-owners looking to cover their butts on all sides without spending too much money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think a lot of the hesitancy in allowing vigorous armed responses has less to do with accidentally killing an innocent , than with larger issues like the possibility of triggering an international incident .
For a government , having an occasional merchant sailor be kidnapped or killed , is much less of a hassle than the diplomatic tangles that could occur when something goes wrong .
If a US sailor passing through Iranian waters shoots up a pirate craft , and kills a Russian prisoner aboard , it 's going to get messy.I see a lot of pooh-poohing of the chance something might go wrong , but remember that you 're dealing with real life messiness .
You may not always be dealing with clear-headed thinkers .
In real life you get people who are spooked , gung-ho , inebriated , or just plain stupid .
Likewise , " repeated warnings " do n't always carry the guarantee you think they might -- for instance , there was some case involving a civilian airplane shoot-down , where the pilots heard the warnings on the radio , and were like " Man , that other plane out there better turn around , they 're starting to sound really serious !
" Current pirates may not be all that subtle in how they go about their business , but they will adapt to an armed response .
Perhaps they 'll start disguising themselves as innocent traffic ; perhaps they 'll actually be riding on innocent traffic , with some poor fisherman or local ferry getting pressed into service .
Or maybe they 'll have a handful of hostages from their previous pirating adventures serving as human shields .
Escalation is to be expected.In any case , it 's possible the popularity of non-lethal techniques like these may have less to do with protecting sailors , and more with ship-owners looking to cover their butts on all sides without spending too much money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think a lot of the hesitancy in allowing vigorous armed responses has less to do with accidentally killing an innocent, than with larger issues like the possibility of triggering an international incident.
For a government, having an occasional merchant sailor be kidnapped or killed, is much less of a hassle than the diplomatic tangles that could occur when something goes wrong.
If a US sailor passing through Iranian waters shoots up a pirate craft, and kills a Russian prisoner aboard, it's going to get messy.I see a lot of pooh-poohing of the chance something might go wrong, but remember that you're dealing with real life messiness.
You may not always be dealing with clear-headed thinkers.
In real life you get people who are spooked, gung-ho, inebriated, or just plain stupid.
Likewise, "repeated warnings" don't always carry the guarantee you think they might -- for instance, there was some case involving a civilian airplane shoot-down, where the pilots heard the warnings on the radio, and were like "Man, that other plane out there better turn around, they're starting to sound really serious!
"Current pirates may not be all that subtle in how they go about their business, but they will adapt to an armed response.
Perhaps they'll start disguising themselves as innocent traffic; perhaps they'll actually be riding on innocent traffic, with some poor fisherman or local ferry getting pressed into service.
Or maybe they'll have a handful of hostages from their previous pirating adventures serving as human shields.
Escalation is to be expected.In any case, it's possible the popularity of non-lethal techniques like these may have less to do with protecting sailors, and more with ship-owners looking to cover their butts on all sides without spending too much money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266664</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259516700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I doubt they would bother. A few (or a few dozen) RPGs would be both cheaper and more effective.
<p>I like the idea that the "good guys" can use expensive high tech to "stun" the bad guy's vessels, but if I were a captain of a ship being raided, I doubt I would  prefer gumming up their motors to blowing them out of the water. Not only that but if you just mess with the pirates equipment they will just go on to do the same again later once they repair it. Sure the helicopter support might arrive in time and kill all the pirates, but at that point why not just kill the pirates from the boat int he first place?
</p><p>It would seem like a limited lethal weapon system mounted on the transports would be the most efficient option.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt they would bother .
A few ( or a few dozen ) RPGs would be both cheaper and more effective .
I like the idea that the " good guys " can use expensive high tech to " stun " the bad guy 's vessels , but if I were a captain of a ship being raided , I doubt I would prefer gumming up their motors to blowing them out of the water .
Not only that but if you just mess with the pirates equipment they will just go on to do the same again later once they repair it .
Sure the helicopter support might arrive in time and kill all the pirates , but at that point why not just kill the pirates from the boat int he first place ?
It would seem like a limited lethal weapon system mounted on the transports would be the most efficient option .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt they would bother.
A few (or a few dozen) RPGs would be both cheaper and more effective.
I like the idea that the "good guys" can use expensive high tech to "stun" the bad guy's vessels, but if I were a captain of a ship being raided, I doubt I would  prefer gumming up their motors to blowing them out of the water.
Not only that but if you just mess with the pirates equipment they will just go on to do the same again later once they repair it.
Sure the helicopter support might arrive in time and kill all the pirates, but at that point why not just kill the pirates from the boat int he first place?
It would seem like a limited lethal weapon system mounted on the transports would be the most efficient option.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268518</id>
	<title>Meanwhile</title>
	<author>rossdee</author>
	<datestamp>1259581980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The pirates themselves are under no compulsion to use such non-lethal weapons...</p><p>(Load the cannons with grapeshot me hearties, we'll sweep the decks clear before we board)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The pirates themselves are under no compulsion to use such non-lethal weapons... ( Load the cannons with grapeshot me hearties , we 'll sweep the decks clear before we board )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The pirates themselves are under no compulsion to use such non-lethal weapons...(Load the cannons with grapeshot me hearties, we'll sweep the decks clear before we board)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268598</id>
	<title>the tree huggers use this tactic</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1259583060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i've seen "tree huggers" foul propellers with line</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whale\_Wars" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whale\_Wars</a> [wikipedia.org] </p><blockquote><div><p>206    "With a Hook"<br>July 17, 2009<br>Surrounded by the Japanese whaling fleet, the Sea Shepherds ready themselves for their biggest day of battle to date on the campaign. Helicopter pilot Chris flies up and confirms the crew's fears - all of the whaling vessels are equipped with LRADs. Additionally the Nisshin Maru has covered itself in netting, making the deployment of the butyric acid nearly impossible. The Gemini tries to deploy a prop-fouler, but after several attempts, the harpoon ship manages to take fouling line out of the water. The LRAD device is seen, but not turned on.</p></div> </blockquote></div>
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<tokenext>i 've seen " tree huggers " foul propellers with linehttp : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whale \ _Wars [ wikipedia.org ] 206 " With a Hook " July 17 , 2009Surrounded by the Japanese whaling fleet , the Sea Shepherds ready themselves for their biggest day of battle to date on the campaign .
Helicopter pilot Chris flies up and confirms the crew 's fears - all of the whaling vessels are equipped with LRADs .
Additionally the Nisshin Maru has covered itself in netting , making the deployment of the butyric acid nearly impossible .
The Gemini tries to deploy a prop-fouler , but after several attempts , the harpoon ship manages to take fouling line out of the water .
The LRAD device is seen , but not turned on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i've seen "tree huggers" foul propellers with linehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whale\_Wars [wikipedia.org] 206    "With a Hook"July 17, 2009Surrounded by the Japanese whaling fleet, the Sea Shepherds ready themselves for their biggest day of battle to date on the campaign.
Helicopter pilot Chris flies up and confirms the crew's fears - all of the whaling vessels are equipped with LRADs.
Additionally the Nisshin Maru has covered itself in netting, making the deployment of the butyric acid nearly impossible.
The Gemini tries to deploy a prop-fouler, but after several attempts, the harpoon ship manages to take fouling line out of the water.
The LRAD device is seen, but not turned on. 
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269894</id>
	<title>Throw Food at them.... at high speed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259596320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bring in the Spud Cannon!<br>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spud\_gun</p><p>Cheap and fun and easy to make and use.  Perfect choice for packing pirates full of healty and nurishing potatoes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bring in the Spud Cannon ! http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spud \ _gunCheap and fun and easy to make and use .
Perfect choice for packing pirates full of healty and nurishing potatoes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bring in the Spud Cannon!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spud\_gunCheap and fun and easy to make and use.
Perfect choice for packing pirates full of healty and nurishing potatoes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267508</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>nacturation</author>
	<datestamp>1259611260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd go with a different approach.  A tightly packed array of 50x50 green lasers with a calibrated spotting scope on it.  Optionally, protect the person manning the laser station with bulletproof shielding.  When you see an obviously hostile craft approaching, everyone on the friendly ship dons their protective eyewear which blocks out the green laser frequency in case of any bounce-back.  Then spot them through the scope and flip the switch and pan across the whole ship.  Makes them nice and blind.</p><p>After that, the crew can follow up with a little napalm or ship-mounted flamethrower.  A sulfuric acid cannon would be pretty sweet too.  Or a few remote controlled<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.50 cal turrets with armor piercing bullets setup to pin each vessel in a crossfire.  Or these mounted on the bow and stern of the ship setup to be armed when enemy vessels approach: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP6GpAnmAPU" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP6GpAnmAPU</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd go with a different approach .
A tightly packed array of 50x50 green lasers with a calibrated spotting scope on it .
Optionally , protect the person manning the laser station with bulletproof shielding .
When you see an obviously hostile craft approaching , everyone on the friendly ship dons their protective eyewear which blocks out the green laser frequency in case of any bounce-back .
Then spot them through the scope and flip the switch and pan across the whole ship .
Makes them nice and blind.After that , the crew can follow up with a little napalm or ship-mounted flamethrower .
A sulfuric acid cannon would be pretty sweet too .
Or a few remote controlled .50 cal turrets with armor piercing bullets setup to pin each vessel in a crossfire .
Or these mounted on the bow and stern of the ship setup to be armed when enemy vessels approach : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = cP6GpAnmAPU [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd go with a different approach.
A tightly packed array of 50x50 green lasers with a calibrated spotting scope on it.
Optionally, protect the person manning the laser station with bulletproof shielding.
When you see an obviously hostile craft approaching, everyone on the friendly ship dons their protective eyewear which blocks out the green laser frequency in case of any bounce-back.
Then spot them through the scope and flip the switch and pan across the whole ship.
Makes them nice and blind.After that, the crew can follow up with a little napalm or ship-mounted flamethrower.
A sulfuric acid cannon would be pretty sweet too.
Or a few remote controlled .50 cal turrets with armor piercing bullets setup to pin each vessel in a crossfire.
Or these mounted on the bow and stern of the ship setup to be armed when enemy vessels approach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP6GpAnmAPU [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267046</id>
	<title>Re:Browning M2 - Accept No Substitutes</title>
	<author>Osinoche</author>
	<datestamp>1259520000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>High Explosive 55 MM RPGs work also.</htmltext>
<tokenext>High Explosive 55 MM RPGs work also .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>High Explosive 55 MM RPGs work also.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268012</id>
	<title>Pfff! My pirate ship is invulnerable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259574840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My pirate ship has sails and you insensitive clod!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My pirate ship has sails and you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My pirate ship has sails and you insensitive clod!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30275394</id>
	<title>eff that</title>
	<author>blair1q</author>
	<datestamp>1259578440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>eff that</p><p>just get the pirates broadband internet and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. accounts</p><p>you won't see them out of their rooms for years</p><p>(there are those who say this has already happened, and is only just now starting to wear off)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>eff thatjust get the pirates broadband internet and / .
accountsyou wo n't see them out of their rooms for years ( there are those who say this has already happened , and is only just now starting to wear off )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>eff thatjust get the pirates broadband internet and /.
accountsyou won't see them out of their rooms for years(there are those who say this has already happened, and is only just now starting to wear off)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267404</id>
	<title>I'm not usually the voice of the tree-huggers....</title>
	<author>jda104</author>
	<datestamp>1259523420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>But fishing line is a big problem in protecting marine animals; it seems like intentionally stranding hundreds of yards of the stuff might have some negative impacts on the surrounding aquatic life.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But fishing line is a big problem in protecting marine animals ; it seems like intentionally stranding hundreds of yards of the stuff might have some negative impacts on the surrounding aquatic life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But fishing line is a big problem in protecting marine animals; it seems like intentionally stranding hundreds of yards of the stuff might have some negative impacts on the surrounding aquatic life.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266932</id>
	<title>Re:Browning M2 - Accept No Substitutes</title>
	<author>Ralph Spoilsport</author>
	<datestamp>1259518980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I completely agree. If you're in international waters, these idiots have whatever is coming to them. I think two of <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Twin\_M2HB\_machine\_gun.jpg" title="wikimedia.org">these</a> [wikimedia.org] would be more than sufficient to turn them into fish food.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I completely agree .
If you 're in international waters , these idiots have whatever is coming to them .
I think two of these [ wikimedia.org ] would be more than sufficient to turn them into fish food .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I completely agree.
If you're in international waters, these idiots have whatever is coming to them.
I think two of these [wikimedia.org] would be more than sufficient to turn them into fish food.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30272934</id>
	<title>Armchair soldiers posting here</title>
	<author>fiannaFailMan</author>
	<datestamp>1259612100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Oh yes, if a pirate boat came to me I'd blow them out of the water.  And while I was at it I'd jump down onto their launch and finish them all off with my martial arts moves!  I'd then fly back onto my ship, triumphant, my cape flying in the breeze, a beacon of truth, justice and the American way!"</p><p>Seriously folks, put yourself in the position of a merchant sailor. You're not a high wage worker, you're not a trained soldier, you're not a combat marine.  You're a freaking cook/mechanic/laborer! You've never taken a life, you haven't been trained to do so, and if you did you'd be terrified for your life, you'd be thinking that if you started trying to use deadly force against the pirates then one thought and one thought only would be on your mind.  "What if I try to kill them and I miss? They're going to make it through and they're going to kill me."</p><p>But hey, what would he know? He's only the guy in the most terrifying situation a man can face. Slashdotters are much better qualified to pontificate on what everyone else should do. Isn't it great to have so many experts in one place? So many people who know everything there is to know on any subject you can name?  If slashdotters were a famous person, they'd be Joe the Plumber!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Oh yes , if a pirate boat came to me I 'd blow them out of the water .
And while I was at it I 'd jump down onto their launch and finish them all off with my martial arts moves !
I 'd then fly back onto my ship , triumphant , my cape flying in the breeze , a beacon of truth , justice and the American way !
" Seriously folks , put yourself in the position of a merchant sailor .
You 're not a high wage worker , you 're not a trained soldier , you 're not a combat marine .
You 're a freaking cook/mechanic/laborer !
You 've never taken a life , you have n't been trained to do so , and if you did you 'd be terrified for your life , you 'd be thinking that if you started trying to use deadly force against the pirates then one thought and one thought only would be on your mind .
" What if I try to kill them and I miss ?
They 're going to make it through and they 're going to kill me .
" But hey , what would he know ?
He 's only the guy in the most terrifying situation a man can face .
Slashdotters are much better qualified to pontificate on what everyone else should do .
Is n't it great to have so many experts in one place ?
So many people who know everything there is to know on any subject you can name ?
If slashdotters were a famous person , they 'd be Joe the Plumber !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Oh yes, if a pirate boat came to me I'd blow them out of the water.
And while I was at it I'd jump down onto their launch and finish them all off with my martial arts moves!
I'd then fly back onto my ship, triumphant, my cape flying in the breeze, a beacon of truth, justice and the American way!
"Seriously folks, put yourself in the position of a merchant sailor.
You're not a high wage worker, you're not a trained soldier, you're not a combat marine.
You're a freaking cook/mechanic/laborer!
You've never taken a life, you haven't been trained to do so, and if you did you'd be terrified for your life, you'd be thinking that if you started trying to use deadly force against the pirates then one thought and one thought only would be on your mind.
"What if I try to kill them and I miss?
They're going to make it through and they're going to kill me.
"But hey, what would he know?
He's only the guy in the most terrifying situation a man can face.
Slashdotters are much better qualified to pontificate on what everyone else should do.
Isn't it great to have so many experts in one place?
So many people who know everything there is to know on any subject you can name?
If slashdotters were a famous person, they'd be Joe the Plumber!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30270156</id>
	<title>Seriously? This is slashdot.</title>
	<author>Taibhsear</author>
	<datestamp>1259597880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Come on guys, anyone that's played a space sim before knows you don't put guns on the merchant ship. You hire escort ships (that are far more agile than a cargo ship) to guard the merchant ship on it's route. Then when you have to dock to unload the goods, the armed ships stay out of the range of the port so the problems with guns in the port is a non-issue. What's more costly? Losing money to ransom to get your ship back or paying a few escorts to guide your ship to safety?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Come on guys , anyone that 's played a space sim before knows you do n't put guns on the merchant ship .
You hire escort ships ( that are far more agile than a cargo ship ) to guard the merchant ship on it 's route .
Then when you have to dock to unload the goods , the armed ships stay out of the range of the port so the problems with guns in the port is a non-issue .
What 's more costly ?
Losing money to ransom to get your ship back or paying a few escorts to guide your ship to safety ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Come on guys, anyone that's played a space sim before knows you don't put guns on the merchant ship.
You hire escort ships (that are far more agile than a cargo ship) to guard the merchant ship on it's route.
Then when you have to dock to unload the goods, the armed ships stay out of the range of the port so the problems with guns in the port is a non-issue.
What's more costly?
Losing money to ransom to get your ship back or paying a few escorts to guide your ship to safety?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266572</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259516100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The trick is telling the difference between pirates and fishermen, or other innocent people.  With this, big deal if it's used against the wrong person.  With bullets it's another story.  Leave the killing to the pros.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The trick is telling the difference between pirates and fishermen , or other innocent people .
With this , big deal if it 's used against the wrong person .
With bullets it 's another story .
Leave the killing to the pros .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The trick is telling the difference between pirates and fishermen, or other innocent people.
With this, big deal if it's used against the wrong person.
With bullets it's another story.
Leave the killing to the pros.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266526</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266502</id>
	<title>Mean and nasty!</title>
	<author>ColdWetDog</author>
	<datestamp>1259515620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nice idea.  I absolutely hate it when crap gets stuck in the prop.  Not sure how fast these things could be reloaded though and it would be easy to spoof using a water pressure (jet) lower end, although I doubt your random Somali hijacker is going to have the cash to upgrade their motors.<br> <br>
I really like the golf balls though....  Totally mean spirited...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice idea .
I absolutely hate it when crap gets stuck in the prop .
Not sure how fast these things could be reloaded though and it would be easy to spoof using a water pressure ( jet ) lower end , although I doubt your random Somali hijacker is going to have the cash to upgrade their motors .
I really like the golf balls though.... Totally mean spirited.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nice idea.
I absolutely hate it when crap gets stuck in the prop.
Not sure how fast these things could be reloaded though and it would be easy to spoof using a water pressure (jet) lower end, although I doubt your random Somali hijacker is going to have the cash to upgrade their motors.
I really like the golf balls though....  Totally mean spirited...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268114</id>
	<title>silly bloodthirsty people</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259575860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>these somali pirates do what they do because for decades european and american ships have overfished and dumped toxic waste in somalian waters, ruining the fish stocks. when fishermen can't fish, and with no government, they get a little desperate.<br>pirates very rarely kill the crew. they treat them quite nicely! they are often very happy as they will soon get millions of dollars.<br>arming ships is an awful idea that would never pass outside of american territorial waters. we do not need to give untrained merchant seamen access to machine guns. or 'private contractors' (mercenaries). they have done fine without them for years.<br>the navy has big guns. a beefed up international taskforce (not the tiny EUFOR fleet of about 12 ships &amp; a smaller NATO fleet) would do the job well. unfortunately sometimes violence is necessary.<br>some people at slashdot have blood lust. it's very disturbing. perhaps it's because you can freely blow pirates out of the way without any (percieved) moral consequences - and they have had so much practice at doing this virtually.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>these somali pirates do what they do because for decades european and american ships have overfished and dumped toxic waste in somalian waters , ruining the fish stocks .
when fishermen ca n't fish , and with no government , they get a little desperate.pirates very rarely kill the crew .
they treat them quite nicely !
they are often very happy as they will soon get millions of dollars.arming ships is an awful idea that would never pass outside of american territorial waters .
we do not need to give untrained merchant seamen access to machine guns .
or 'private contractors ' ( mercenaries ) .
they have done fine without them for years.the navy has big guns .
a beefed up international taskforce ( not the tiny EUFOR fleet of about 12 ships &amp; a smaller NATO fleet ) would do the job well .
unfortunately sometimes violence is necessary.some people at slashdot have blood lust .
it 's very disturbing .
perhaps it 's because you can freely blow pirates out of the way without any ( percieved ) moral consequences - and they have had so much practice at doing this virtually .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>these somali pirates do what they do because for decades european and american ships have overfished and dumped toxic waste in somalian waters, ruining the fish stocks.
when fishermen can't fish, and with no government, they get a little desperate.pirates very rarely kill the crew.
they treat them quite nicely!
they are often very happy as they will soon get millions of dollars.arming ships is an awful idea that would never pass outside of american territorial waters.
we do not need to give untrained merchant seamen access to machine guns.
or 'private contractors' (mercenaries).
they have done fine without them for years.the navy has big guns.
a beefed up international taskforce (not the tiny EUFOR fleet of about 12 ships &amp; a smaller NATO fleet) would do the job well.
unfortunately sometimes violence is necessary.some people at slashdot have blood lust.
it's very disturbing.
perhaps it's because you can freely blow pirates out of the way without any (percieved) moral consequences - and they have had so much practice at doing this virtually.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30274080</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>bill\_mcgonigle</author>
	<datestamp>1259573160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>Fouling their prop doesn't require quite such a high standard of proof, and gets the job done, at least till they get their hands on some jet boats. </i></p></div> </blockquote><p>The ransoms they're collecting are in the multi-million dollar range.  Jet boat seems like a wise investment.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fouling their prop does n't require quite such a high standard of proof , and gets the job done , at least till they get their hands on some jet boats .
The ransoms they 're collecting are in the multi-million dollar range .
Jet boat seems like a wise investment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Fouling their prop doesn't require quite such a high standard of proof, and gets the job done, at least till they get their hands on some jet boats.
The ransoms they're collecting are in the multi-million dollar range.
Jet boat seems like a wise investment.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266678</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30272574</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259610180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually shit for brains, in a civilized world, nobody carries guns because there's no violence. Unfortunately for your pipe dream riddled ass, we live in a quite uncivilized world.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually shit for brains , in a civilized world , nobody carries guns because there 's no violence .
Unfortunately for your pipe dream riddled ass , we live in a quite uncivilized world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually shit for brains, in a civilized world, nobody carries guns because there's no violence.
Unfortunately for your pipe dream riddled ass, we live in a quite uncivilized world.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266526</id>
	<title>Pro-tip:  Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259515740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are we really that politically correct now that even killing a pirate is wrong?</p><p>Pirates.  Not a down-trodden minority.</p><p>Kill them.  All of them.</p><p>It's the right thing to do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are we really that politically correct now that even killing a pirate is wrong ? Pirates .
Not a down-trodden minority.Kill them .
All of them.It 's the right thing to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are we really that politically correct now that even killing a pirate is wrong?Pirates.
Not a down-trodden minority.Kill them.
All of them.It's the right thing to do.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269332</id>
	<title>golf balls?</title>
	<author>zztong</author>
	<datestamp>1259592240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Quote: "fire a payload of golf balls"</p><p>Do you yell "fire" or "four" before you trigger this weapon?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Quote : " fire a payload of golf balls " Do you yell " fire " or " four " before you trigger this weapon ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quote: "fire a payload of golf balls"Do you yell "fire" or "four" before you trigger this weapon?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268200</id>
	<title>Pirates and Global Warming</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259576880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As we all know there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature. Therefore, more pirates must mean the Earth is cooling down, and the effects of Global Warming should subsequently subside.<br>http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As we all know there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature .
Therefore , more pirates must mean the Earth is cooling down , and the effects of Global Warming should subsequently subside.http : //www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As we all know there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature.
Therefore, more pirates must mean the Earth is cooling down, and the effects of Global Warming should subsequently subside.http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30275980</id>
	<title>Re:Golf balls? Ropes? Parachutes?!</title>
	<author>2short</author>
	<datestamp>1259580480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A) and deal with the hassles of sailing an armed vessel into every port you visit; which ports will be in a dizzying array of sovereign countries with all manner of different regulations.  That this is a problem that should lead you to throw nets at pirates may be, in your opinion, stupid.  Feel free to explain that to the port authority in Whereeverthehellistan and see how well that goes.<br><br>B) It's SOMALIA.  The "fuckers" are already shooting each other at a far greater than you will ever contemplate, and no shortage of new fuckers is apparent.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A ) and deal with the hassles of sailing an armed vessel into every port you visit ; which ports will be in a dizzying array of sovereign countries with all manner of different regulations .
That this is a problem that should lead you to throw nets at pirates may be , in your opinion , stupid .
Feel free to explain that to the port authority in Whereeverthehellistan and see how well that goes.B ) It 's SOMALIA .
The " fuckers " are already shooting each other at a far greater than you will ever contemplate , and no shortage of new fuckers is apparent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A) and deal with the hassles of sailing an armed vessel into every port you visit; which ports will be in a dizzying array of sovereign countries with all manner of different regulations.
That this is a problem that should lead you to throw nets at pirates may be, in your opinion, stupid.
Feel free to explain that to the port authority in Whereeverthehellistan and see how well that goes.B) It's SOMALIA.
The "fuckers" are already shooting each other at a far greater than you will ever contemplate, and no shortage of new fuckers is apparent.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267210</id>
	<title>Re:Mean and nasty!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259521500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why all this bullshit?</p><p>Why can't we just kill Pirates?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why all this bullshit ? Why ca n't we just kill Pirates ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why all this bullshit?Why can't we just kill Pirates?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266502</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267754</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259614380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not just that, but it ups the ante considerably.  If the pirates know that some merchant vessels are armed, they'll be far more aggressive, which will lead to more casualties.  The best defence, as most people in the region have figured out, is to do everything to stop the pirates from being able to board their ships.  No one wants merchants to have to be armed to the teeth just to sail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not just that , but it ups the ante considerably .
If the pirates know that some merchant vessels are armed , they 'll be far more aggressive , which will lead to more casualties .
The best defence , as most people in the region have figured out , is to do everything to stop the pirates from being able to board their ships .
No one wants merchants to have to be armed to the teeth just to sail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not just that, but it ups the ante considerably.
If the pirates know that some merchant vessels are armed, they'll be far more aggressive, which will lead to more casualties.
The best defence, as most people in the region have figured out, is to do everything to stop the pirates from being able to board their ships.
No one wants merchants to have to be armed to the teeth just to sail.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266770</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269912</id>
	<title>Re:Lunacy!!!</title>
	<author>Tom</author>
	<datestamp>1259596500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Pay the Danegeld and you don't get rid of the Dane.</p></div><p>Except that you're in Denmark in this case.</p><p>Their government is nonfunctional. International fishing fleets have depleted their fishing grounds so fishers - until recently one of the few professions in the area that was good even when everyone else was starving - now can't feed their families anymore.</p><p>It's not quite that simple. Putting bigger guns on the ships will only mean the pirates use bigger guns, too. They don't have many other choices. What other job opportunities are there for them?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Make it too difficult to be worth their time and the piracy will stop.</p></div><p>You're assuming that there's something else they can do. If there isn't, they will go on, no matter how difficult it is.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pay the Danegeld and you do n't get rid of the Dane.Except that you 're in Denmark in this case.Their government is nonfunctional .
International fishing fleets have depleted their fishing grounds so fishers - until recently one of the few professions in the area that was good even when everyone else was starving - now ca n't feed their families anymore.It 's not quite that simple .
Putting bigger guns on the ships will only mean the pirates use bigger guns , too .
They do n't have many other choices .
What other job opportunities are there for them ? Make it too difficult to be worth their time and the piracy will stop.You 're assuming that there 's something else they can do .
If there is n't , they will go on , no matter how difficult it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pay the Danegeld and you don't get rid of the Dane.Except that you're in Denmark in this case.Their government is nonfunctional.
International fishing fleets have depleted their fishing grounds so fishers - until recently one of the few professions in the area that was good even when everyone else was starving - now can't feed their families anymore.It's not quite that simple.
Putting bigger guns on the ships will only mean the pirates use bigger guns, too.
They don't have many other choices.
What other job opportunities are there for them?Make it too difficult to be worth their time and the piracy will stop.You're assuming that there's something else they can do.
If there isn't, they will go on, no matter how difficult it is.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267048</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267220</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Alascom</author>
	<datestamp>1259521620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is the same philosophy that said never try to stop airplane hijackers, just do what they say and you'll eventually be let go.</p><p>Of course, if the pirates read this they are going to say - 'hey, great idea.  Why chase down these ships when we can just disable them.'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is the same philosophy that said never try to stop airplane hijackers , just do what they say and you 'll eventually be let go.Of course , if the pirates read this they are going to say - 'hey , great idea .
Why chase down these ships when we can just disable them .
'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is the same philosophy that said never try to stop airplane hijackers, just do what they say and you'll eventually be let go.Of course, if the pirates read this they are going to say - 'hey, great idea.
Why chase down these ships when we can just disable them.
'</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266780</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268180</id>
	<title>Two words</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259576580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Two words to solving this whole pirate shinanigans....Bait Boat.  Yep sail the seas with a Merchant Boat packed with explosives ready to become remotely detonated as soon as said pirates board.  Ker-Pow!! Bait boat one, pirates 0.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Two words to solving this whole pirate shinanigans....Bait Boat .
Yep sail the seas with a Merchant Boat packed with explosives ready to become remotely detonated as soon as said pirates board .
Ker-Pow ! ! Bait boat one , pirates 0 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two words to solving this whole pirate shinanigans....Bait Boat.
Yep sail the seas with a Merchant Boat packed with explosives ready to become remotely detonated as soon as said pirates board.
Ker-Pow!! Bait boat one, pirates 0.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267248</id>
	<title>Stink filled Paint balls</title>
	<author>spineboy</author>
	<datestamp>1259521860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not make a paint ball - filled with wretched smelling stuff/tear gas, etc - incapacitate the whole boat.<br>Or make it filled with infra red visible paint - then the Navy can do a flyover, pick out the boat and sink it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not make a paint ball - filled with wretched smelling stuff/tear gas , etc - incapacitate the whole boat.Or make it filled with infra red visible paint - then the Navy can do a flyover , pick out the boat and sink it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not make a paint ball - filled with wretched smelling stuff/tear gas, etc - incapacitate the whole boat.Or make it filled with infra red visible paint - then the Navy can do a flyover, pick out the boat and sink it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266502</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267234</id>
	<title>A simple yet wrong answer</title>
	<author>sjbe</author>
	<datestamp>1259521740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How difficult would it be to equip ships with Browning M2 [wikipedia.org]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.50 machine guns and man a watch for incoming pirate vessels</p></div><p>Difficult?  Not at all.  Expensive?  Definitely - especially once you factor in insurance and extra manpower.  Legal?  Completely illegal in most ports.  Sensible?  Probably not given that piracy is actually extremely rare and that there is at best a vague legal framework supporting you if you shoot someone at sea - even in self defense.</p><p>There are a lot of reasons they don't arm merchant ships.  Most ports will deny entry to any merchant ship that is armed.  Most crews are not trained in combat.  Pirates in practice rarely kill the crew members of vessels they attack.  Most merchant ships have very small crews and normally are badly outnumbered by the pirates attacking them.  Ships sailing in territorial waters may be subject to laws that are against them shooting a pirate even while under assault.  And it goes on and on.  Seriously, if it were as simple as arming the vessels, don't you think they would have done that already?</p><p>The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strait\_of\_Malacca" title="wikipedia.org">Strait of Malacca</a> [wikipedia.org] is arguably the area with the most piracy.  Over 50,000 ships pass through the area annually.  There are at most a few hundred incidents of piracy worldwide each year (less than 300 in 2006).  Now go ahead and justify the cost (financial and legal and moral) of arming all those ships against a very unlikely hazard.</p></div>
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<tokenext>How difficult would it be to equip ships with Browning M2 [ wikipedia.org ] .50 machine guns and man a watch for incoming pirate vesselsDifficult ?
Not at all .
Expensive ? Definitely - especially once you factor in insurance and extra manpower .
Legal ? Completely illegal in most ports .
Sensible ? Probably not given that piracy is actually extremely rare and that there is at best a vague legal framework supporting you if you shoot someone at sea - even in self defense.There are a lot of reasons they do n't arm merchant ships .
Most ports will deny entry to any merchant ship that is armed .
Most crews are not trained in combat .
Pirates in practice rarely kill the crew members of vessels they attack .
Most merchant ships have very small crews and normally are badly outnumbered by the pirates attacking them .
Ships sailing in territorial waters may be subject to laws that are against them shooting a pirate even while under assault .
And it goes on and on .
Seriously , if it were as simple as arming the vessels , do n't you think they would have done that already ? The Strait of Malacca [ wikipedia.org ] is arguably the area with the most piracy .
Over 50,000 ships pass through the area annually .
There are at most a few hundred incidents of piracy worldwide each year ( less than 300 in 2006 ) .
Now go ahead and justify the cost ( financial and legal and moral ) of arming all those ships against a very unlikely hazard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How difficult would it be to equip ships with Browning M2 [wikipedia.org] .50 machine guns and man a watch for incoming pirate vesselsDifficult?
Not at all.
Expensive?  Definitely - especially once you factor in insurance and extra manpower.
Legal?  Completely illegal in most ports.
Sensible?  Probably not given that piracy is actually extremely rare and that there is at best a vague legal framework supporting you if you shoot someone at sea - even in self defense.There are a lot of reasons they don't arm merchant ships.
Most ports will deny entry to any merchant ship that is armed.
Most crews are not trained in combat.
Pirates in practice rarely kill the crew members of vessels they attack.
Most merchant ships have very small crews and normally are badly outnumbered by the pirates attacking them.
Ships sailing in territorial waters may be subject to laws that are against them shooting a pirate even while under assault.
And it goes on and on.
Seriously, if it were as simple as arming the vessels, don't you think they would have done that already?The Strait of Malacca [wikipedia.org] is arguably the area with the most piracy.
Over 50,000 ships pass through the area annually.
There are at most a few hundred incidents of piracy worldwide each year (less than 300 in 2006).
Now go ahead and justify the cost (financial and legal and moral) of arming all those ships against a very unlikely hazard.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30270098</id>
	<title>Whale "scientists'</title>
	<author>Tsalg</author>
	<datestamp>1259597580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I guess that whale hunters - sorry, whale scientists - would be more than happy to have these when they meet "eco-terrorists" - sorry, greenpeace activists / sea shepherds -?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess that whale hunters - sorry , whale scientists - would be more than happy to have these when they meet " eco-terrorists " - sorry , greenpeace activists / sea shepherds - ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess that whale hunters - sorry, whale scientists - would be more than happy to have these when they meet "eco-terrorists" - sorry, greenpeace activists / sea shepherds -?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266760</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>icegreentea</author>
	<datestamp>1259517540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ok. How about this. Your ship is not armed because it wants to be able to dock anywhere in the world. So you've been under attack and fighting them off with water cannons. You got some friendly navy on the radio and they send a chopper your way. So it's like... 10 minutes out when the dudes in the ship start turning tail. What the hell do you do? Fuck up their props. Just like how mace is used instead of guns in some cases, you'll use this device instead of guns in some cases.<br><br>But yes. Just shooting them when you get charged by dudes in speedboats would be a nice solution. Too bad the economics don't really work out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok. How about this .
Your ship is not armed because it wants to be able to dock anywhere in the world .
So you 've been under attack and fighting them off with water cannons .
You got some friendly navy on the radio and they send a chopper your way .
So it 's like... 10 minutes out when the dudes in the ship start turning tail .
What the hell do you do ?
Fuck up their props .
Just like how mace is used instead of guns in some cases , you 'll use this device instead of guns in some cases.But yes .
Just shooting them when you get charged by dudes in speedboats would be a nice solution .
Too bad the economics do n't really work out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok. How about this.
Your ship is not armed because it wants to be able to dock anywhere in the world.
So you've been under attack and fighting them off with water cannons.
You got some friendly navy on the radio and they send a chopper your way.
So it's like... 10 minutes out when the dudes in the ship start turning tail.
What the hell do you do?
Fuck up their props.
Just like how mace is used instead of guns in some cases, you'll use this device instead of guns in some cases.But yes.
Just shooting them when you get charged by dudes in speedboats would be a nice solution.
Too bad the economics don't really work out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267698</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Nefarious Wheel</author>
	<datestamp>1259613840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And how many of your average merchant shipping crews actually have the know-how to effectively use such a weapon?</p></div><p>Hire armed guards?</p></div>
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<tokenext>And how many of your average merchant shipping crews actually have the know-how to effectively use such a weapon ? Hire armed guards ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And how many of your average merchant shipping crews actually have the know-how to effectively use such a weapon?Hire armed guards?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30279210</id>
	<title>Sea Shepherds FTW</title>
	<author>AgingYoungRebel</author>
	<datestamp>1259601240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This sounds quite like one of the favorite tactics of the Sea Shepherds against the illegal Japanese whaling ships in the Southern Ocean. Except instead of launchers and parachutes they use Zodiacs and balls. <a href="http://www.seashepherd.org/" title="seashepherd.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.seashepherd.org/</a> [seashepherd.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>This sounds quite like one of the favorite tactics of the Sea Shepherds against the illegal Japanese whaling ships in the Southern Ocean .
Except instead of launchers and parachutes they use Zodiacs and balls .
http : //www.seashepherd.org/ [ seashepherd.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This sounds quite like one of the favorite tactics of the Sea Shepherds against the illegal Japanese whaling ships in the Southern Ocean.
Except instead of launchers and parachutes they use Zodiacs and balls.
http://www.seashepherd.org/ [seashepherd.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267672</id>
	<title>Guns?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259613480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not simply equip the relevant ships with high powered machine guns (M61 Vulcan for instance - 6.000 shots per minute) which will make mincemeat of any pirate (and their boat) stupid enough to come within range?</p><p>Doing so solves two problems:</p><p>- It stops any pirate attack<br>- It decimates the active pirate population effectively<br>- It most likely also discourages potential pirates from going into business</p><p>These guns are also fairly complex mechanically so it's unlikely that any captured guns (how?) will be of much use for the pirates for long. They're also hard to mount and use from a small boat like the ones usually used by pirates.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not simply equip the relevant ships with high powered machine guns ( M61 Vulcan for instance - 6.000 shots per minute ) which will make mincemeat of any pirate ( and their boat ) stupid enough to come within range ? Doing so solves two problems : - It stops any pirate attack- It decimates the active pirate population effectively- It most likely also discourages potential pirates from going into businessThese guns are also fairly complex mechanically so it 's unlikely that any captured guns ( how ?
) will be of much use for the pirates for long .
They 're also hard to mount and use from a small boat like the ones usually used by pirates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not simply equip the relevant ships with high powered machine guns (M61 Vulcan for instance - 6.000 shots per minute) which will make mincemeat of any pirate (and their boat) stupid enough to come within range?Doing so solves two problems:- It stops any pirate attack- It decimates the active pirate population effectively- It most likely also discourages potential pirates from going into businessThese guns are also fairly complex mechanically so it's unlikely that any captured guns (how?
) will be of much use for the pirates for long.
They're also hard to mount and use from a small boat like the ones usually used by pirates.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269922</id>
	<title>Jet boats?</title>
	<author>FeatherBoa</author>
	<datestamp>1259596500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a lucky thing that Pirates have never heard of jet boats, because such a boat would skim harmlessly over any amount of nets or other prop-fouling stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a lucky thing that Pirates have never heard of jet boats , because such a boat would skim harmlessly over any amount of nets or other prop-fouling stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a lucky thing that Pirates have never heard of jet boats, because such a boat would skim harmlessly over any amount of nets or other prop-fouling stuff.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266784</id>
	<title>Perfect people to test - Pirates!</title>
	<author>shacky003</author>
	<datestamp>1259517840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The group on Whale Wars should test this puppy out.. They can't seem to launch a proper prop fouler line for anything..</htmltext>
<tokenext>The group on Whale Wars should test this puppy out.. They ca n't seem to launch a proper prop fouler line for anything. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The group on Whale Wars should test this puppy out.. They can't seem to launch a proper prop fouler line for anything..</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30274286</id>
	<title>Re:Golf balls? Ropes? Parachutes?!</title>
	<author>vertinox</author>
	<datestamp>1259574000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Just shoot the fuckers already. Pretty soon there won't be any more of them.</i></p><p>International law forbids merchant vessels from being armed for a specific reason.</p><p>I mean would you want a bunch of random foreigners in NYC or San Fran port with military grade weapons at arms reach?</p><p>Secondly it makes for questionably transportation of illegal weapons quasi-legal:</p><p>I mean if they allowed it, and they caught a North Korean bought with AKs and naval rockets on the way to Iran "Yeah... We're using these to... protect ourselves from pirates... That's right!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just shoot the fuckers already .
Pretty soon there wo n't be any more of them.International law forbids merchant vessels from being armed for a specific reason.I mean would you want a bunch of random foreigners in NYC or San Fran port with military grade weapons at arms reach ? Secondly it makes for questionably transportation of illegal weapons quasi-legal : I mean if they allowed it , and they caught a North Korean bought with AKs and naval rockets on the way to Iran " Yeah... We 're using these to... protect ourselves from pirates... That 's right !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just shoot the fuckers already.
Pretty soon there won't be any more of them.International law forbids merchant vessels from being armed for a specific reason.I mean would you want a bunch of random foreigners in NYC or San Fran port with military grade weapons at arms reach?Secondly it makes for questionably transportation of illegal weapons quasi-legal:I mean if they allowed it, and they caught a North Korean bought with AKs and naval rockets on the way to Iran "Yeah... We're using these to... protect ourselves from pirates... That's right!
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266812</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>bman08</author>
	<datestamp>1259517960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do you think any American port is going to welcome a fleet of armed foreign merchantmen?  Unlikely.  The same holds worldwide.   These guys are in the commerce business and the hassle this plan would create is probably worth more than the occasional ransom.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you think any American port is going to welcome a fleet of armed foreign merchantmen ?
Unlikely. The same holds worldwide .
These guys are in the commerce business and the hassle this plan would create is probably worth more than the occasional ransom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you think any American port is going to welcome a fleet of armed foreign merchantmen?
Unlikely.  The same holds worldwide.
These guys are in the commerce business and the hassle this plan would create is probably worth more than the occasional ransom.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266770</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>beadfulthings</author>
	<datestamp>1259517660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sure the helicopter support might arrive in time and kill all the pirates, but at that point why not just kill the pirates from the boat int he first place?</p></div><p>This has been the key question all along, and unfortunately there's an answer to it. They won't arm the transports, or the crews of the transports, because they are more scared of what might happen if somebody gets mad, makes a mistake, or otherwise screws up, than they are of the pirates themselves. So the answer is, "Our insurance company won't let us do that..." Not a very satisfactory answer, but an answer nevertheless.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Sure the helicopter support might arrive in time and kill all the pirates , but at that point why not just kill the pirates from the boat int he first place ? This has been the key question all along , and unfortunately there 's an answer to it .
They wo n't arm the transports , or the crews of the transports , because they are more scared of what might happen if somebody gets mad , makes a mistake , or otherwise screws up , than they are of the pirates themselves .
So the answer is , " Our insurance company wo n't let us do that... " Not a very satisfactory answer , but an answer nevertheless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure the helicopter support might arrive in time and kill all the pirates, but at that point why not just kill the pirates from the boat int he first place?This has been the key question all along, and unfortunately there's an answer to it.
They won't arm the transports, or the crews of the transports, because they are more scared of what might happen if somebody gets mad, makes a mistake, or otherwise screws up, than they are of the pirates themselves.
So the answer is, "Our insurance company won't let us do that..." Not a very satisfactory answer, but an answer nevertheless.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30273166</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259613360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>  to the fists of a trained martial artist. </p></div><p>I thought we were just dealing with pirates. Now you're telling me they're also ninjas?</p><p><div class="quote"><p> The martial artist isn't a threat if he's 100 yards away.</p></div><p>Not if they're ninja-pirates!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>to the fists of a trained martial artist .
I thought we were just dealing with pirates .
Now you 're telling me they 're also ninjas ?
The martial artist is n't a threat if he 's 100 yards away.Not if they 're ninja-pirates !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  to the fists of a trained martial artist.
I thought we were just dealing with pirates.
Now you're telling me they're also ninjas?
The martial artist isn't a threat if he's 100 yards away.Not if they're ninja-pirates!
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267152</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Shakrai</author>
	<datestamp>1259521020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Well, the problem with real guns is that you have to wait until they are shooting at you first</p></div><p>Yeah, so?
</p><p><div class="quote"><p>With the air cannon, that won't kill them, you can't shoot without being sure.</p></div><p>No you can't.  Leaving someone stranded miles off shore with no propulsion places them in harms way.  You still can't shoot unless you are sure that they intend to do you harm.  If that's the case, why not shoot back with rifles instead?</p></div>
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<tokenext>Well , the problem with real guns is that you have to wait until they are shooting at you firstYeah , so ?
With the air cannon , that wo n't kill them , you ca n't shoot without being sure.No you ca n't .
Leaving someone stranded miles off shore with no propulsion places them in harms way .
You still ca n't shoot unless you are sure that they intend to do you harm .
If that 's the case , why not shoot back with rifles instead ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, the problem with real guns is that you have to wait until they are shooting at you firstYeah, so?
With the air cannon, that won't kill them, you can't shoot without being sure.No you can't.
Leaving someone stranded miles off shore with no propulsion places them in harms way.
You still can't shoot unless you are sure that they intend to do you harm.
If that's the case, why not shoot back with rifles instead?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267254</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Shakrai</author>
	<datestamp>1259521980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Typically the pirates don't kill the crew.</p></div><p>So what?  Being kidnapped and held for ransom is not an experience that most people would care to go through.  The laws of most civilized nations regard kidnapping as a crime that you can resist with deadly force.  It's a serious violation of the person.  The only worse crimes are rape and murder.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Typically the pirates do n't kill the crew.So what ?
Being kidnapped and held for ransom is not an experience that most people would care to go through .
The laws of most civilized nations regard kidnapping as a crime that you can resist with deadly force .
It 's a serious violation of the person .
The only worse crimes are rape and murder .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Typically the pirates don't kill the crew.So what?
Being kidnapped and held for ransom is not an experience that most people would care to go through.
The laws of most civilized nations regard kidnapping as a crime that you can resist with deadly force.
It's a serious violation of the person.
The only worse crimes are rape and murder.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269208</id>
	<title>Re:Browning M2 - Accept No Substitutes</title>
	<author>chord.wav</author>
	<datestamp>1259591280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>when word gets around the piracy doesn't pay, the pirates will forced to give up or be killed.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Exactly that very same reason is why we don't have terrorism, car hijacks, robberies, killings, etc. even on countries with death penalty and/or the most brutal law enforcement practices and even with drones dropping bombs in terrorists camps every single day... -rolls eyes-</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>when word gets around the piracy does n't pay , the pirates will forced to give up or be killed .
Exactly that very same reason is why we do n't have terrorism , car hijacks , robberies , killings , etc .
even on countries with death penalty and/or the most brutal law enforcement practices and even with drones dropping bombs in terrorists camps every single day... -rolls eyes-</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when word gets around the piracy doesn't pay, the pirates will forced to give up or be killed.
Exactly that very same reason is why we don't have terrorism, car hijacks, robberies, killings, etc.
even on countries with death penalty and/or the most brutal law enforcement practices and even with drones dropping bombs in terrorists camps every single day... -rolls eyes-
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30271090</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259603280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And if you shot fishermen or other innocent people by accident?</p></div><p>No one will know either way... its a freaking <b>ocean</b> after all.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And if you shot fishermen or other innocent people by accident ? No one will know either way... its a freaking ocean after all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if you shot fishermen or other innocent people by accident?No one will know either way... its a freaking ocean after all.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267510</id>
	<title>Pirates driven off by private security</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259611260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gB7YMEDuCwwY9ncDOtPAkEI4-H2wD9C9B6T00" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">Fire vs Fire </a> [google.com] <br>Spanish trawler attacked by pirates</p><p>Also here: http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/11/29/spain.pirate.attack/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fire vs Fire [ google.com ] Spanish trawler attacked by piratesAlso here : http : //edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/11/29/spain.pirate.attack/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fire vs Fire  [google.com] Spanish trawler attacked by piratesAlso here: http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/11/29/spain.pirate.attack/</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259523000000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Horsedung.  There are more potential hostile crew's than pirates.  Eventually the crews kill the pirates down to only a few, and then the crews win.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Horsedung .
There are more potential hostile crew 's than pirates .
Eventually the crews kill the pirates down to only a few , and then the crews win .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Horsedung.
There are more potential hostile crew's than pirates.
Eventually the crews kill the pirates down to only a few, and then the crews win.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266822</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>amiga3D</author>
	<datestamp>1259518020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They would probably die.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They would probably die .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They would probably die.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269184</id>
	<title>Re:Stink filled Paint balls</title>
	<author>gmac63</author>
	<datestamp>1259591100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why not make a paint ball - filled with wretched smelling stuff/tear gas, etc - incapacitate the whole boat.<br>Or make it filled with infra red visible paint - then the Navy can do a flyover, pick out the boat and sink it.</p></div><p>Requires accurate aim. This device seems to act like a broader ranging weapon. Also environmental concerns using inks/dyes/chemicals. Comments have been made that this device's net or rope is also a hazard to marine life. Quite possibly, but at that distance from shore I wonder what would be affected.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not make a paint ball - filled with wretched smelling stuff/tear gas , etc - incapacitate the whole boat.Or make it filled with infra red visible paint - then the Navy can do a flyover , pick out the boat and sink it.Requires accurate aim .
This device seems to act like a broader ranging weapon .
Also environmental concerns using inks/dyes/chemicals .
Comments have been made that this device 's net or rope is also a hazard to marine life .
Quite possibly , but at that distance from shore I wonder what would be affected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not make a paint ball - filled with wretched smelling stuff/tear gas, etc - incapacitate the whole boat.Or make it filled with infra red visible paint - then the Navy can do a flyover, pick out the boat and sink it.Requires accurate aim.
This device seems to act like a broader ranging weapon.
Also environmental concerns using inks/dyes/chemicals.
Comments have been made that this device's net or rope is also a hazard to marine life.
Quite possibly, but at that distance from shore I wonder what would be affected.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266568</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>TangoMargarine</author>
	<datestamp>1259516100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>And how many of your average merchant shipping crews actually have the know-how to effectively use such a weapon? I'm sure the pirates would capture a small supply in short order.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And how many of your average merchant shipping crews actually have the know-how to effectively use such a weapon ?
I 'm sure the pirates would capture a small supply in short order .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And how many of your average merchant shipping crews actually have the know-how to effectively use such a weapon?
I'm sure the pirates would capture a small supply in short order.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30274142</id>
	<title>Re:Browning M2 - Accept No Substitutes</title>
	<author>bill\_mcgonigle</author>
	<datestamp>1259573340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>How difficult would it be to equip ships with Browning M2 [wikipedia.org]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.50 machine guns and man a watch for incoming pirate vessels. </i></p></div> </blockquote><p>You have to get the shipping insurance companies to stop mandating an unarmed crew in their policies.</p><p>They care about the odds of the cargo being lost, not the welfare of the crew.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How difficult would it be to equip ships with Browning M2 [ wikipedia.org ] .50 machine guns and man a watch for incoming pirate vessels .
You have to get the shipping insurance companies to stop mandating an unarmed crew in their policies.They care about the odds of the cargo being lost , not the welfare of the crew .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> How difficult would it be to equip ships with Browning M2 [wikipedia.org] .50 machine guns and man a watch for incoming pirate vessels.
You have to get the shipping insurance companies to stop mandating an unarmed crew in their policies.They care about the odds of the cargo being lost, not the welfare of the crew.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267162</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>FiloEleven</author>
	<datestamp>1259521080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sure the helicopter support might arrive in time and kill all the pirates, but at that point why not just kill the pirates from the boat int he first place?</p></div><p>Well the whole idea is to avoid having the crew be lethally armed and to avoid any kind of close confrontation with the pirates.  The biggest issue with firearms is that every port of call has different rules concerning them and who can carry them.  It's an extra hassle, and it costs money in training, upkeep and presumably in hazard pay to arm a crew.</p><p>I sympathize with the use of lethal force in this case, and I think that any shipping company who decides to arm their crews should be allowed to do so.  Even with that option, this looks like another good tool to have.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Sure the helicopter support might arrive in time and kill all the pirates , but at that point why not just kill the pirates from the boat int he first place ? Well the whole idea is to avoid having the crew be lethally armed and to avoid any kind of close confrontation with the pirates .
The biggest issue with firearms is that every port of call has different rules concerning them and who can carry them .
It 's an extra hassle , and it costs money in training , upkeep and presumably in hazard pay to arm a crew.I sympathize with the use of lethal force in this case , and I think that any shipping company who decides to arm their crews should be allowed to do so .
Even with that option , this looks like another good tool to have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure the helicopter support might arrive in time and kill all the pirates, but at that point why not just kill the pirates from the boat int he first place?Well the whole idea is to avoid having the crew be lethally armed and to avoid any kind of close confrontation with the pirates.
The biggest issue with firearms is that every port of call has different rules concerning them and who can carry them.
It's an extra hassle, and it costs money in training, upkeep and presumably in hazard pay to arm a crew.I sympathize with the use of lethal force in this case, and I think that any shipping company who decides to arm their crews should be allowed to do so.
Even with that option, this looks like another good tool to have.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269100</id>
	<title>Air Guitar convolutes Pirates' nots!</title>
	<author>PolygamousRanchKid </author>
	<datestamp>1259590140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>AP:The US has raised the stakes in East Africa by deploying the 137th Air Guitar division to the Gulf Region.  Commander Lt. General Ball Scratchum
commented that his crack team of long haired hippie type pinko fags are the best trained US forces.  "Head banging, and feint guitar playing gets the enemy confused, and off their guard."
</p><p>Pirate spokesman, Suliman Fuckherfaster, commented: "Hey, we can deal with the SEALS . . . they shoot at us, and, like, we die.  But these Air Guitar creeps confuse the hell out of me.  They shake their heads, and make strange movements with their arms.  I looked in my Von Clauswitz book, but it didn't have any suggestions."
</p><p>Mr Fuckherfaster was called to lunch, with the appellation: "Suliman, Suliman Fuckherfaster!"  As the press corps was on the ground laughing their asses off, Mr. Fuckherfaster responded with AK-47s, RPGs and other heavy artillery.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>AP : The US has raised the stakes in East Africa by deploying the 137th Air Guitar division to the Gulf Region .
Commander Lt. General Ball Scratchum commented that his crack team of long haired hippie type pinko fags are the best trained US forces .
" Head banging , and feint guitar playing gets the enemy confused , and off their guard .
" Pirate spokesman , Suliman Fuckherfaster , commented : " Hey , we can deal with the SEALS .
. .
they shoot at us , and , like , we die .
But these Air Guitar creeps confuse the hell out of me .
They shake their heads , and make strange movements with their arms .
I looked in my Von Clauswitz book , but it did n't have any suggestions .
" Mr Fuckherfaster was called to lunch , with the appellation : " Suliman , Suliman Fuckherfaster !
" As the press corps was on the ground laughing their asses off , Mr. Fuckherfaster responded with AK-47s , RPGs and other heavy artillery .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AP:The US has raised the stakes in East Africa by deploying the 137th Air Guitar division to the Gulf Region.
Commander Lt. General Ball Scratchum
commented that his crack team of long haired hippie type pinko fags are the best trained US forces.
"Head banging, and feint guitar playing gets the enemy confused, and off their guard.
"
Pirate spokesman, Suliman Fuckherfaster, commented: "Hey, we can deal with the SEALS .
. .
they shoot at us, and, like, we die.
But these Air Guitar creeps confuse the hell out of me.
They shake their heads, and make strange movements with their arms.
I looked in my Von Clauswitz book, but it didn't have any suggestions.
"
Mr Fuckherfaster was called to lunch, with the appellation: "Suliman, Suliman Fuckherfaster!
"  As the press corps was on the ground laughing their asses off, Mr. Fuckherfaster responded with AK-47s, RPGs and other heavy artillery.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30296562</id>
	<title>innovation - not</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is not original - a similar device was invented in 1941 and used successfully against enemy aircraft - it was called PAC</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not original - a similar device was invented in 1941 and used successfully against enemy aircraft - it was called PAC</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not original - a similar device was invented in 1941 and used successfully against enemy aircraft - it was called PAC</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30270046</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1259597280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you're in a small single-engine craft, in waters off the coast of Somalia, and you continue to approach any large commercial vehicle despite repeated auditory warnings, you deserve to be obliterated.</p></div><p>Also, how many legit fisherman are trolling the pirate infested waters near Somalia in the first place?  These pirates don't really sound like they target just international shipping corporations, I'd -assume- a single engine craft in international waters off the coast of Somalia is either a pirate vessel or is a vessel that is about to be taken by pirates in the near future.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're in a small single-engine craft , in waters off the coast of Somalia , and you continue to approach any large commercial vehicle despite repeated auditory warnings , you deserve to be obliterated.Also , how many legit fisherman are trolling the pirate infested waters near Somalia in the first place ?
These pirates do n't really sound like they target just international shipping corporations , I 'd -assume- a single engine craft in international waters off the coast of Somalia is either a pirate vessel or is a vessel that is about to be taken by pirates in the near future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're in a small single-engine craft, in waters off the coast of Somalia, and you continue to approach any large commercial vehicle despite repeated auditory warnings, you deserve to be obliterated.Also, how many legit fisherman are trolling the pirate infested waters near Somalia in the first place?
These pirates don't really sound like they target just international shipping corporations, I'd -assume- a single engine craft in international waters off the coast of Somalia is either a pirate vessel or is a vessel that is about to be taken by pirates in the near future.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268774</id>
	<title>Turn it into an adventure</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259585580000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://myjunkmail.blogspot.com/2009/11/ultimate-adventure-cruise.html</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //myjunkmail.blogspot.com/2009/11/ultimate-adventure-cruise.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://myjunkmail.blogspot.com/2009/11/ultimate-adventure-cruise.html</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266678</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>dr2chase</author>
	<datestamp>1259516820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Before you attempt to kill them, you have to be certain that they are a pirate.  Legally certain, not just Slashdot certain.
</p><p>
Fouling their prop doesn't require quite such a high standard of proof, and gets the job done, at least till they get their hands on some jet boats.
</p><p>
It's also not too smart for a pirate to escalate from a small disabled boat -- if someone on that ship had some means of firing back, that could only be deployed against proven pirates, well, you just gave them proof.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Before you attempt to kill them , you have to be certain that they are a pirate .
Legally certain , not just Slashdot certain .
Fouling their prop does n't require quite such a high standard of proof , and gets the job done , at least till they get their hands on some jet boats .
It 's also not too smart for a pirate to escalate from a small disabled boat -- if someone on that ship had some means of firing back , that could only be deployed against proven pirates , well , you just gave them proof .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Before you attempt to kill them, you have to be certain that they are a pirate.
Legally certain, not just Slashdot certain.
Fouling their prop doesn't require quite such a high standard of proof, and gets the job done, at least till they get their hands on some jet boats.
It's also not too smart for a pirate to escalate from a small disabled boat -- if someone on that ship had some means of firing back, that could only be deployed against proven pirates, well, you just gave them proof.
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267272</id>
	<title>Wont do much good...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259522160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You foul their props at 400m, they'll punch a hole in the side of your cargo vessel with an RPG at 400m easy as pie</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You foul their props at 400m , they 'll punch a hole in the side of your cargo vessel with an RPG at 400m easy as pie</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You foul their props at 400m, they'll punch a hole in the side of your cargo vessel with an RPG at 400m easy as pie</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269428</id>
	<title>Escalation?</title>
	<author>JustNiz</author>
	<datestamp>1259592900000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whats to stop pirates from using ropes to foul the props of their target?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whats to stop pirates from using ropes to foul the props of their target ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whats to stop pirates from using ropes to foul the props of their target?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30270530</id>
	<title>get the history of your taregts right; then...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259600160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...choose the right targets. as in most things regarding crime these days the poor are the easy targets; not the large bankroll corporate fishing fleets or illegal toxic dumpers. *rolls eyes*</p><p>
&nbsp; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy\_in\_Somalia</p><p>"During the Siad Barre regime, Somalia received aid from Denmark, Great Britain, Iraq, Japan, Sweden, USSR, and West Germany to develop its fishing industry. Cooperatives had fixed prices for their catch, which was often exported due to the low demand for seafood in Somalia. Aid money improved the ships and supported the construction of maintenance facilities.[16] After the fall of the Barre regime, the income from fishing decreased due to the Somali Civil War.</p><p>Also, there was no coast guard to protect against fishing trawlers from other countries illegally fishing and big companies dumping waste which killed fish in Somali waters. This led to the erosion of the fish stock. Local fishermen started to band together to protect their resources. Soon some of them discovered that piracy was an easier way to make money.[citation needed] Due to the clan-based organization of Somali society, the lack of a central government, and the country's strategic location at the Horn of Africa, conditions were ripe for the growth of piracy in the early 1990s.</p><p>Armed suspected pirates in the Indian Ocean near Somalia. After the picture was taken, the vessel&rsquo;s crew members opened fire on U.S. Navy ships and the ship's crew members returned fire. One suspected pirate was killed and 12 were taken into custody.Precise data on the current economic situation in Somalia is scarce but with an estimated per capita GDP of $600 per year, it remains one of the world's poorest countries.[17] Millions of Somalis depend on food aid and in 2008, according to the World Bank, as much as 73\% of the population lived on a daily income below $2.[18][19] These factors and the lucrative success of many hijacking operations have drawn a number of young men toward gangs of pirates, whose wealth and strength often make them part of the local social and economic elite. Abdi Farah Juha who lives in Garoowe (100 miles from the sea) told the BBC, "They have money; they have power and they are getting stronger by the day. [...] They wed the most beautiful girls; they are building big houses; they have new cars; new guns."[20]</p><p>Some pirates are former fishermen, who argue that foreign ships are threatening their livelihood by illegally fishing in Somali waters.[21] After seeing the profitability of piracy, since ransoms are usually paid, warlords began to facilitate pirate activities, splitting the profits with the pirates.[22] In most of the hijackings, the bandits have not harmed their prisoners.[23] The attackers generally treat their hostages well in anticipation of a big payday to the point of hiring caterers on the shores of Somalia to cook spaghetti, grilled fish and roasted meat that will appeal to a Western palate. They also keep a steady supply of cigarettes and drinks from the shops on shore.[24]</p><p>The Transitional Federal Government has made some efforts to combat piracy, occasionally allowing foreign naval vessels into Somali territorial waters.[citation needed] However, more often than not, foreign naval vessels chasing pirates were forced to break off when the pirates entered Somali territorial waters.[25][26] The government of Puntland has made more progress in combating piracy, evident in recent interventions.[27]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...choose the right targets .
as in most things regarding crime these days the poor are the easy targets ; not the large bankroll corporate fishing fleets or illegal toxic dumpers .
* rolls eyes *   http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy \ _in \ _Somalia " During the Siad Barre regime , Somalia received aid from Denmark , Great Britain , Iraq , Japan , Sweden , USSR , and West Germany to develop its fishing industry .
Cooperatives had fixed prices for their catch , which was often exported due to the low demand for seafood in Somalia .
Aid money improved the ships and supported the construction of maintenance facilities .
[ 16 ] After the fall of the Barre regime , the income from fishing decreased due to the Somali Civil War.Also , there was no coast guard to protect against fishing trawlers from other countries illegally fishing and big companies dumping waste which killed fish in Somali waters .
This led to the erosion of the fish stock .
Local fishermen started to band together to protect their resources .
Soon some of them discovered that piracy was an easier way to make money .
[ citation needed ] Due to the clan-based organization of Somali society , the lack of a central government , and the country 's strategic location at the Horn of Africa , conditions were ripe for the growth of piracy in the early 1990s.Armed suspected pirates in the Indian Ocean near Somalia .
After the picture was taken , the vessel    s crew members opened fire on U.S. Navy ships and the ship 's crew members returned fire .
One suspected pirate was killed and 12 were taken into custody.Precise data on the current economic situation in Somalia is scarce but with an estimated per capita GDP of $ 600 per year , it remains one of the world 's poorest countries .
[ 17 ] Millions of Somalis depend on food aid and in 2008 , according to the World Bank , as much as 73 \ % of the population lived on a daily income below $ 2 .
[ 18 ] [ 19 ] These factors and the lucrative success of many hijacking operations have drawn a number of young men toward gangs of pirates , whose wealth and strength often make them part of the local social and economic elite .
Abdi Farah Juha who lives in Garoowe ( 100 miles from the sea ) told the BBC , " They have money ; they have power and they are getting stronger by the day .
[ ... ] They wed the most beautiful girls ; they are building big houses ; they have new cars ; new guns .
" [ 20 ] Some pirates are former fishermen , who argue that foreign ships are threatening their livelihood by illegally fishing in Somali waters .
[ 21 ] After seeing the profitability of piracy , since ransoms are usually paid , warlords began to facilitate pirate activities , splitting the profits with the pirates .
[ 22 ] In most of the hijackings , the bandits have not harmed their prisoners .
[ 23 ] The attackers generally treat their hostages well in anticipation of a big payday to the point of hiring caterers on the shores of Somalia to cook spaghetti , grilled fish and roasted meat that will appeal to a Western palate .
They also keep a steady supply of cigarettes and drinks from the shops on shore .
[ 24 ] The Transitional Federal Government has made some efforts to combat piracy , occasionally allowing foreign naval vessels into Somali territorial waters .
[ citation needed ] However , more often than not , foreign naval vessels chasing pirates were forced to break off when the pirates entered Somali territorial waters .
[ 25 ] [ 26 ] The government of Puntland has made more progress in combating piracy , evident in recent interventions .
[ 27 ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...choose the right targets.
as in most things regarding crime these days the poor are the easy targets; not the large bankroll corporate fishing fleets or illegal toxic dumpers.
*rolls eyes*
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy\_in\_Somalia"During the Siad Barre regime, Somalia received aid from Denmark, Great Britain, Iraq, Japan, Sweden, USSR, and West Germany to develop its fishing industry.
Cooperatives had fixed prices for their catch, which was often exported due to the low demand for seafood in Somalia.
Aid money improved the ships and supported the construction of maintenance facilities.
[16] After the fall of the Barre regime, the income from fishing decreased due to the Somali Civil War.Also, there was no coast guard to protect against fishing trawlers from other countries illegally fishing and big companies dumping waste which killed fish in Somali waters.
This led to the erosion of the fish stock.
Local fishermen started to band together to protect their resources.
Soon some of them discovered that piracy was an easier way to make money.
[citation needed] Due to the clan-based organization of Somali society, the lack of a central government, and the country's strategic location at the Horn of Africa, conditions were ripe for the growth of piracy in the early 1990s.Armed suspected pirates in the Indian Ocean near Somalia.
After the picture was taken, the vessel’s crew members opened fire on U.S. Navy ships and the ship's crew members returned fire.
One suspected pirate was killed and 12 were taken into custody.Precise data on the current economic situation in Somalia is scarce but with an estimated per capita GDP of $600 per year, it remains one of the world's poorest countries.
[17] Millions of Somalis depend on food aid and in 2008, according to the World Bank, as much as 73\% of the population lived on a daily income below $2.
[18][19] These factors and the lucrative success of many hijacking operations have drawn a number of young men toward gangs of pirates, whose wealth and strength often make them part of the local social and economic elite.
Abdi Farah Juha who lives in Garoowe (100 miles from the sea) told the BBC, "They have money; they have power and they are getting stronger by the day.
[...] They wed the most beautiful girls; they are building big houses; they have new cars; new guns.
"[20]Some pirates are former fishermen, who argue that foreign ships are threatening their livelihood by illegally fishing in Somali waters.
[21] After seeing the profitability of piracy, since ransoms are usually paid, warlords began to facilitate pirate activities, splitting the profits with the pirates.
[22] In most of the hijackings, the bandits have not harmed their prisoners.
[23] The attackers generally treat their hostages well in anticipation of a big payday to the point of hiring caterers on the shores of Somalia to cook spaghetti, grilled fish and roasted meat that will appeal to a Western palate.
They also keep a steady supply of cigarettes and drinks from the shops on shore.
[24]The Transitional Federal Government has made some efforts to combat piracy, occasionally allowing foreign naval vessels into Somali territorial waters.
[citation needed] However, more often than not, foreign naval vessels chasing pirates were forced to break off when the pirates entered Somali territorial waters.
[25][26] The government of Puntland has made more progress in combating piracy, evident in recent interventions.
[27]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269234</id>
	<title>Re:Lunacy!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259591460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's also makign ship insurance companies a lot of money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's also makign ship insurance companies a lot of money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's also makign ship insurance companies a lot of money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268080</id>
	<title>Re:Lunacy!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259575500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Spoken like a true American. Just bring more guns and start shooting earlier.<br>Well those guns on merchant ships will soon end up on pirate ships anyway, and then we'll have pirate ships with machine guns and merchant ships with machine guns. Crews are always outnumbered, so this will end with a dead crew and a few dead pirates. And everyone just starting to shoot like crazy on sight. On everybody. All the time. Moronic nonsense like that is why the US is in such a sorry state. Wake up kid, this is not Hollywood. People don't kill people (at least almost never), weapons do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Spoken like a true American .
Just bring more guns and start shooting earlier.Well those guns on merchant ships will soon end up on pirate ships anyway , and then we 'll have pirate ships with machine guns and merchant ships with machine guns .
Crews are always outnumbered , so this will end with a dead crew and a few dead pirates .
And everyone just starting to shoot like crazy on sight .
On everybody .
All the time .
Moronic nonsense like that is why the US is in such a sorry state .
Wake up kid , this is not Hollywood .
People do n't kill people ( at least almost never ) , weapons do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Spoken like a true American.
Just bring more guns and start shooting earlier.Well those guns on merchant ships will soon end up on pirate ships anyway, and then we'll have pirate ships with machine guns and merchant ships with machine guns.
Crews are always outnumbered, so this will end with a dead crew and a few dead pirates.
And everyone just starting to shoot like crazy on sight.
On everybody.
All the time.
Moronic nonsense like that is why the US is in such a sorry state.
Wake up kid, this is not Hollywood.
People don't kill people (at least almost never), weapons do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266752</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>m1xram</author>
	<datestamp>1259517480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>35mm? Wow, I was only thinking of a 20mm radar guided phalanx gun. You could cut their ship in half with a short burst of 20mm, but no, that's not good enough for you! lol</htmltext>
<tokenext>35mm ?
Wow , I was only thinking of a 20mm radar guided phalanx gun .
You could cut their ship in half with a short burst of 20mm , but no , that 's not good enough for you !
lol</tokentext>
<sentencetext>35mm?
Wow, I was only thinking of a 20mm radar guided phalanx gun.
You could cut their ship in half with a short burst of 20mm, but no, that's not good enough for you!
lol</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30270220</id>
	<title>what about animals, divers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259598300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Getting entangled in something underwatter that was shoot from the ship ages ago and that doesn't degrade, doesn't sound like a good idea!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Getting entangled in something underwatter that was shoot from the ship ages ago and that does n't degrade , does n't sound like a good idea !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Getting entangled in something underwatter that was shoot from the ship ages ago and that doesn't degrade, doesn't sound like a good idea!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269890</id>
	<title>Re:Browning M2 - Accept No Substitutes</title>
	<author>Tom</author>
	<datestamp>1259596320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>when word gets around the piracy doesn't pay, the pirates will forced to give up or be killed.</p> </div><p>Or not.</p><p>Some of these pirates are just the filthy pirates the media make them out to be. But a whole lot more are fishers who're pissed at 1st world fishing factories emptying the fishing grounds (because there's no effective government down there to stop them) so they and their families starve.</p><p>And buying better weapons easily solves the equation for the pirates. Do you think you're the only one who can get an M2?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>when word gets around the piracy does n't pay , the pirates will forced to give up or be killed .
Or not.Some of these pirates are just the filthy pirates the media make them out to be .
But a whole lot more are fishers who 're pissed at 1st world fishing factories emptying the fishing grounds ( because there 's no effective government down there to stop them ) so they and their families starve.And buying better weapons easily solves the equation for the pirates .
Do you think you 're the only one who can get an M2 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when word gets around the piracy doesn't pay, the pirates will forced to give up or be killed.
Or not.Some of these pirates are just the filthy pirates the media make them out to be.
But a whole lot more are fishers who're pissed at 1st world fishing factories emptying the fishing grounds (because there's no effective government down there to stop them) so they and their families starve.And buying better weapons easily solves the equation for the pirates.
Do you think you're the only one who can get an M2?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267042</id>
	<title>Re:Browning M2 - Accept No Substitutes</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1259519940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
At 1.2 miles, or even 1000 feet.. you don't know that they're pirates.   You could be shooting innocent people
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At 1.2 miles , or even 1000 feet.. you do n't know that they 're pirates .
You could be shooting innocent people</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
At 1.2 miles, or even 1000 feet.. you don't know that they're pirates.
You could be shooting innocent people
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266942</id>
	<title>Re:Browning M2 - Accept No Substitutes</title>
	<author>rrohbeck</author>
	<datestamp>1259519040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because it would be illegal in most national waters.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because it would be illegal in most national waters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because it would be illegal in most national waters.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267400</id>
	<title>D....waving on the Internet</title>
	<author>xmundt</author>
	<datestamp>1259523420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>     Greetings and Salutations...<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; If all of you chicken hawks REALLY think that blasting pirates out of the water is the best option, I would suggest this:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1) Band together (facebook is a good option).<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2) Pool your savings and buy a freighter  (lots of them parked now, and available for cheap).<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3) Join the crew, and bring your biggest guns along.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4) Cruise the Somolia coast a few times and have fun blasting the pirates.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5) PROFIT!</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Now...do not be too surprised if, after the second or third time you blow a group of attacking pirates out of the water, you find yourself<br>visited by support ships with RATHER larger guns.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Pleasant Dreams<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Dave Mundt</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Greetings and Salutations.. .           If all of you chicken hawks REALLY think that blasting pirates out of the water is the best option , I would suggest this :           1 ) Band together ( facebook is a good option ) .
          2 ) Pool your savings and buy a freighter ( lots of them parked now , and available for cheap ) .
          3 ) Join the crew , and bring your biggest guns along .
          4 ) Cruise the Somolia coast a few times and have fun blasting the pirates .
          5 ) PROFIT !
            Now...do not be too surprised if , after the second or third time you blow a group of attacking pirates out of the water , you find yourselfvisited by support ships with RATHER larger guns .
          Pleasant Dreams           Dave Mundt</tokentext>
<sentencetext>     Greetings and Salutations...
          If all of you chicken hawks REALLY think that blasting pirates out of the water is the best option, I would suggest this:
          1) Band together (facebook is a good option).
          2) Pool your savings and buy a freighter  (lots of them parked now, and available for cheap).
          3) Join the crew, and bring your biggest guns along.
          4) Cruise the Somolia coast a few times and have fun blasting the pirates.
          5) PROFIT!
            Now...do not be too surprised if, after the second or third time you blow a group of attacking pirates out of the water, you find yourselfvisited by support ships with RATHER larger guns.
          Pleasant Dreams
          Dave Mundt</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269434</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Agreed.  I think everyone deserves due process.  Unless, of course, they downloaded copyrighted material . . .</htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed .
I think everyone deserves due process .
Unless , of course , they downloaded copyrighted material .
. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed.
I think everyone deserves due process.
Unless, of course, they downloaded copyrighted material .
. .</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30270234</id>
	<title>Re:Golf balls? Ropes? Parachutes?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259598360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Merchant vessel owners don't want guns aboard. There are also problems with guns when they dock at a port. There is the danger of fire from a shootout..the last thing you want at sea..especially if you are sitting on a shipfull of crude.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Merchant vessel owners do n't want guns aboard .
There are also problems with guns when they dock at a port .
There is the danger of fire from a shootout..the last thing you want at sea..especially if you are sitting on a shipfull of crude .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Merchant vessel owners don't want guns aboard.
There are also problems with guns when they dock at a port.
There is the danger of fire from a shootout..the last thing you want at sea..especially if you are sitting on a shipfull of crude.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30270244</id>
	<title>Old Tech is Best Solution</title>
	<author>flyneye</author>
	<datestamp>1259598420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pansy air cannons? Tangled up in rope?<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; These pirates come equipped with firepower and have no regard for the value of human life.Let's protect ourselves, the crew and our cargo.<br>Let's get realistic.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Cannons firing Spoon shot, assorted scrap metal,Balls, glaciers points, piano wire, explosives etc. are more, much more effective than air.<br>Hunting rifles w/ scope and large calibre for reaching out to touch them from a safe distance. Sufficiently large<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.50 cal ammo could even disable an engine or turn the majority of a pirates body to red mist.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; This talk of humane self protection is for scientists that live in T.V. land or other places of the imagination where bad people aren't really dangerous and Scooby and the kids unmask old Mr. Cratchet as the villain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pansy air cannons ?
Tangled up in rope ?
      These pirates come equipped with firepower and have no regard for the value of human life.Let 's protect ourselves , the crew and our cargo.Let 's get realistic .
      Cannons firing Spoon shot , assorted scrap metal,Balls , glaciers points , piano wire , explosives etc .
are more , much more effective than air.Hunting rifles w/ scope and large calibre for reaching out to touch them from a safe distance .
Sufficiently large .50 cal ammo could even disable an engine or turn the majority of a pirates body to red mist .
            This talk of humane self protection is for scientists that live in T.V .
land or other places of the imagination where bad people are n't really dangerous and Scooby and the kids unmask old Mr. Cratchet as the villain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pansy air cannons?
Tangled up in rope?
      These pirates come equipped with firepower and have no regard for the value of human life.Let's protect ourselves, the crew and our cargo.Let's get realistic.
      Cannons firing Spoon shot, assorted scrap metal,Balls, glaciers points, piano wire, explosives etc.
are more, much more effective than air.Hunting rifles w/ scope and large calibre for reaching out to touch them from a safe distance.
Sufficiently large .50 cal ammo could even disable an engine or turn the majority of a pirates body to red mist.
            This talk of humane self protection is for scientists that live in T.V.
land or other places of the imagination where bad people aren't really dangerous and Scooby and the kids unmask old Mr. Cratchet as the villain.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30277676</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Gothmolly</author>
	<datestamp>1259588040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You must be a douche.  Nothing I said precluded a security force on said ships.  When pirates capture a vessel (somehow) with "that 35mm AP thing" - then you send in the real military.</p><p>No pirate WOULD fire the "35mm AP thing" at a tanker they were trying to capture.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You must be a douche .
Nothing I said precluded a security force on said ships .
When pirates capture a vessel ( somehow ) with " that 35mm AP thing " - then you send in the real military.No pirate WOULD fire the " 35mm AP thing " at a tanker they were trying to capture .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You must be a douche.
Nothing I said precluded a security force on said ships.
When pirates capture a vessel (somehow) with "that 35mm AP thing" - then you send in the real military.No pirate WOULD fire the "35mm AP thing" at a tanker they were trying to capture.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30279002</id>
	<title>Re:Golf balls? Ropes? Parachutes?!</title>
	<author>frosty\_tsm</author>
	<datestamp>1259599080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><blockquote><div><p>Just shoot the fuckers already. Pretty soon there won't be any more of them.</p></div></blockquote><p>

From now on, whenever you think "lethal weapons on civilian ships would stop piracy", I want you to consider that this is the same as "lots of armed Chinese marines in Los Angeles Harbor would stop piracy". Then put yourself in the shoes of a President trying to push some kind of international convention permitting that.

Thank you.</p></div><p>Close but not the same.  These are (mostly) ships traveling in international waters, some hundreds or a thousand miles away from the country in question.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just shoot the fuckers already .
Pretty soon there wo n't be any more of them .
From now on , whenever you think " lethal weapons on civilian ships would stop piracy " , I want you to consider that this is the same as " lots of armed Chinese marines in Los Angeles Harbor would stop piracy " .
Then put yourself in the shoes of a President trying to push some kind of international convention permitting that .
Thank you.Close but not the same .
These are ( mostly ) ships traveling in international waters , some hundreds or a thousand miles away from the country in question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just shoot the fuckers already.
Pretty soon there won't be any more of them.
From now on, whenever you think "lethal weapons on civilian ships would stop piracy", I want you to consider that this is the same as "lots of armed Chinese marines in Los Angeles Harbor would stop piracy".
Then put yourself in the shoes of a President trying to push some kind of international convention permitting that.
Thank you.Close but not the same.
These are (mostly) ships traveling in international waters, some hundreds or a thousand miles away from the country in question.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269074</id>
	<title>How about a panic room?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Instead of trying an offensive solution to the problem, how about a defensive solution? :</p><p>- Bind the ship'sfunctionality to a master key, without which it is impossible to set active even by an experienced engineer</p><p>- Equip every cargo ship with a panic room that is safe against most common explosives.</p><p>Once pirates attack, the crew pulls off the key and hides within the room. Without the big ship, pirates will have trouble escaping with the cargo and with the crew being safe in the room, they can't take hostages either. So all the crew has to do is wait until the navy arrives and sing "Yohoho!".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Instead of trying an offensive solution to the problem , how about a defensive solution ?
: - Bind the ship'sfunctionality to a master key , without which it is impossible to set active even by an experienced engineer- Equip every cargo ship with a panic room that is safe against most common explosives.Once pirates attack , the crew pulls off the key and hides within the room .
Without the big ship , pirates will have trouble escaping with the cargo and with the crew being safe in the room , they ca n't take hostages either .
So all the crew has to do is wait until the navy arrives and sing " Yohoho !
" .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Instead of trying an offensive solution to the problem, how about a defensive solution?
:- Bind the ship'sfunctionality to a master key, without which it is impossible to set active even by an experienced engineer- Equip every cargo ship with a panic room that is safe against most common explosives.Once pirates attack, the crew pulls off the key and hides within the room.
Without the big ship, pirates will have trouble escaping with the cargo and with the crew being safe in the room, they can't take hostages either.
So all the crew has to do is wait until the navy arrives and sing "Yohoho!
".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267052</id>
	<title>Can't we just fucking bomb those pirate countries?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259520000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not like there's much economic harm to bombing those little pirate countries to smithereens, unless we overdid it to to point where we get a global nuclear winter. Even if nuclear weapons are used, I doubt anyone would care enough to invoke MAD.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not like there 's much economic harm to bombing those little pirate countries to smithereens , unless we overdid it to to point where we get a global nuclear winter .
Even if nuclear weapons are used , I doubt anyone would care enough to invoke MAD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not like there's much economic harm to bombing those little pirate countries to smithereens, unless we overdid it to to point where we get a global nuclear winter.
Even if nuclear weapons are used, I doubt anyone would care enough to invoke MAD.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30276284</id>
	<title>Re:Golf balls? Ropes? Parachutes?!</title>
	<author>2short</author>
	<datestamp>1259581500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"However, the risk of being blown in to a fine pink mist might deter me."<br><br>You don't live in Somalia.  If you were one of these pirates, violent death before age 30 would be your expectation.  The question is whether to be a grunt in a pirate organization or in one side of the civil war.  You might like to say no to both of these opportunities, but the civil war guys in particular aren't fond of that answer.   So do you want to risk probable violent death in the near term fighting for the warlord who pays well or the one who doesn't?<br><br>So you can't deter them.<br><br>You can stop them a variety of ways.  None are likely to make such an impression on the next group of pirates that they will give you less trouble.  Some are likely to make such an impression on the port authorities anywhere else in the world that they will give you more trouble.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" However , the risk of being blown in to a fine pink mist might deter me .
" You do n't live in Somalia .
If you were one of these pirates , violent death before age 30 would be your expectation .
The question is whether to be a grunt in a pirate organization or in one side of the civil war .
You might like to say no to both of these opportunities , but the civil war guys in particular are n't fond of that answer .
So do you want to risk probable violent death in the near term fighting for the warlord who pays well or the one who does n't ? So you ca n't deter them.You can stop them a variety of ways .
None are likely to make such an impression on the next group of pirates that they will give you less trouble .
Some are likely to make such an impression on the port authorities anywhere else in the world that they will give you more trouble .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"However, the risk of being blown in to a fine pink mist might deter me.
"You don't live in Somalia.
If you were one of these pirates, violent death before age 30 would be your expectation.
The question is whether to be a grunt in a pirate organization or in one side of the civil war.
You might like to say no to both of these opportunities, but the civil war guys in particular aren't fond of that answer.
So do you want to risk probable violent death in the near term fighting for the warlord who pays well or the one who doesn't?So you can't deter them.You can stop them a variety of ways.
None are likely to make such an impression on the next group of pirates that they will give you less trouble.
Some are likely to make such an impression on the port authorities anywhere else in the world that they will give you more trouble.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266906</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Logic Worshipper</author>
	<datestamp>1259518680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, the problem with real guns is that you have to wait until they are shooting at you first.  With the air cannon, that won't kill them, you can't shoot without being sure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , the problem with real guns is that you have to wait until they are shooting at you first .
With the air cannon , that wo n't kill them , you ca n't shoot without being sure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, the problem with real guns is that you have to wait until they are shooting at you first.
With the air cannon, that won't kill them, you can't shoot without being sure.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266714</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Sir\_Lewk</author>
	<datestamp>1259517120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The tipoff would probably when they start coming at you with highspeed boats (they only use slower larger "fishing boats" as motherships, they need small highspeed boats to catch their prey) and start firing warning shots with machine guns and RPGs.</p><p>The real reason they are not using real weapons against the pirates isn't because the couldn't be sure they were shooting the right people, but rather because docking at ports becomes much more complicated legally when you are carrying weapons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The tipoff would probably when they start coming at you with highspeed boats ( they only use slower larger " fishing boats " as motherships , they need small highspeed boats to catch their prey ) and start firing warning shots with machine guns and RPGs.The real reason they are not using real weapons against the pirates is n't because the could n't be sure they were shooting the right people , but rather because docking at ports becomes much more complicated legally when you are carrying weapons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The tipoff would probably when they start coming at you with highspeed boats (they only use slower larger "fishing boats" as motherships, they need small highspeed boats to catch their prey) and start firing warning shots with machine guns and RPGs.The real reason they are not using real weapons against the pirates isn't because the couldn't be sure they were shooting the right people, but rather because docking at ports becomes much more complicated legally when you are carrying weapons.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267086</id>
	<title>There has been an effective anti-pirate technology</title>
	<author>Lord Kano</author>
	<datestamp>1259520360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>for hundreds of years. It's called the cannon. In all seriousness, these pirates are chasing down ships and rapidly boarding them with AKs. These are ragtag groups of pirates. They couldn't compete with a cannon or a simple semi-automatic rifle.</p><p>It's ridiculous that all of this effort is necessary. Shoot them.</p><p>LK</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>for hundreds of years .
It 's called the cannon .
In all seriousness , these pirates are chasing down ships and rapidly boarding them with AKs .
These are ragtag groups of pirates .
They could n't compete with a cannon or a simple semi-automatic rifle.It 's ridiculous that all of this effort is necessary .
Shoot them.LK</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for hundreds of years.
It's called the cannon.
In all seriousness, these pirates are chasing down ships and rapidly boarding them with AKs.
These are ragtag groups of pirates.
They couldn't compete with a cannon or a simple semi-automatic rifle.It's ridiculous that all of this effort is necessary.
Shoot them.LK</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30271516</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>kevinNCSU</author>
	<datestamp>1259605320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Your argument seems to be a tad circular.  Pirates have demonstrated those three things because they are pirates?  The question at hand is how do you know they are pirates? How do you know they have AK-47's unless their waving them in the air before they get there or are they wearing a "Surrender the Booty!" T-shirt and flying a pirate flag?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your argument seems to be a tad circular .
Pirates have demonstrated those three things because they are pirates ?
The question at hand is how do you know they are pirates ?
How do you know they have AK-47 's unless their waving them in the air before they get there or are they wearing a " Surrender the Booty !
" T-shirt and flying a pirate flag ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your argument seems to be a tad circular.
Pirates have demonstrated those three things because they are pirates?
The question at hand is how do you know they are pirates?
How do you know they have AK-47's unless their waving them in the air before they get there or are they wearing a "Surrender the Booty!
" T-shirt and flying a pirate flag?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267246</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30274452</id>
	<title>Right of Innocent Passage</title>
	<author>Chronus</author>
	<datestamp>1259574600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is all a very cute discussion, what with the suggestions of flame throwers and Browning machine guns to deter pirates. The discussion of the morality of deterring pirates is good, too, though a little underwhelming. Obviously, we should try to deter them as it means we don't have to kill them or answer their demands.</p><p>But the actual issue is far more practical. http://www.un.org/Depts/los/convention\_agreements/texts/unclos/part2.htm is quiet clear. Any practice or exercise with weapons violates innocent passage. Now, some might say that having a shotgun or some such on a boat is no big deal. Well, everything is a big deal when you're interacting with nations. It's like saying sending one military man into another country to arrest a known criminal is not a big deal. I mean, if a country is frightened of one military man how great of a country can it be? That isn't the point. If Canada or China drops even one military man to hassle even one person under U.S. authority I'm sure you can imagine the controversy and diplomatic firestorms that would cause.</p><p>Even a small militarized asset in a given nation's territorial waters is too much for any nation serious about its sovereignty. That is all of them, by the way. The right of innocent passage is main way that we can have a workable system of sea trade. The discussion shouldn't be focused on what can be put on a ship to seriously mess pirates up. Instead, consider whether this qualifies as a weapon that could cause diplomatic issues.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is all a very cute discussion , what with the suggestions of flame throwers and Browning machine guns to deter pirates .
The discussion of the morality of deterring pirates is good , too , though a little underwhelming .
Obviously , we should try to deter them as it means we do n't have to kill them or answer their demands.But the actual issue is far more practical .
http : //www.un.org/Depts/los/convention \ _agreements/texts/unclos/part2.htm is quiet clear .
Any practice or exercise with weapons violates innocent passage .
Now , some might say that having a shotgun or some such on a boat is no big deal .
Well , everything is a big deal when you 're interacting with nations .
It 's like saying sending one military man into another country to arrest a known criminal is not a big deal .
I mean , if a country is frightened of one military man how great of a country can it be ?
That is n't the point .
If Canada or China drops even one military man to hassle even one person under U.S. authority I 'm sure you can imagine the controversy and diplomatic firestorms that would cause.Even a small militarized asset in a given nation 's territorial waters is too much for any nation serious about its sovereignty .
That is all of them , by the way .
The right of innocent passage is main way that we can have a workable system of sea trade .
The discussion should n't be focused on what can be put on a ship to seriously mess pirates up .
Instead , consider whether this qualifies as a weapon that could cause diplomatic issues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is all a very cute discussion, what with the suggestions of flame throwers and Browning machine guns to deter pirates.
The discussion of the morality of deterring pirates is good, too, though a little underwhelming.
Obviously, we should try to deter them as it means we don't have to kill them or answer their demands.But the actual issue is far more practical.
http://www.un.org/Depts/los/convention\_agreements/texts/unclos/part2.htm is quiet clear.
Any practice or exercise with weapons violates innocent passage.
Now, some might say that having a shotgun or some such on a boat is no big deal.
Well, everything is a big deal when you're interacting with nations.
It's like saying sending one military man into another country to arrest a known criminal is not a big deal.
I mean, if a country is frightened of one military man how great of a country can it be?
That isn't the point.
If Canada or China drops even one military man to hassle even one person under U.S. authority I'm sure you can imagine the controversy and diplomatic firestorms that would cause.Even a small militarized asset in a given nation's territorial waters is too much for any nation serious about its sovereignty.
That is all of them, by the way.
The right of innocent passage is main way that we can have a workable system of sea trade.
The discussion shouldn't be focused on what can be put on a ship to seriously mess pirates up.
Instead, consider whether this qualifies as a weapon that could cause diplomatic issues.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269636</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259594520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yes it does.  You can't just disable boats on the open ocean and leave their crews at the mercy of the sea and elements.</p></div><p>Sure you can, if you're a pirate.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes it does .
You ca n't just disable boats on the open ocean and leave their crews at the mercy of the sea and elements.Sure you can , if you 're a pirate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes it does.
You can't just disable boats on the open ocean and leave their crews at the mercy of the sea and elements.Sure you can, if you're a pirate.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268830</id>
	<title>What if pirate uses this technology on you?</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1259586540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The payload net or rope, which has a parachute attached to the end, will unravel and lay out across the surface of the water so that as the pirate boat travels through the water its propeller shaft will pick up the line and become entangled.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>What if a pirate ship fires one of these on your ship first?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The payload net or rope , which has a parachute attached to the end , will unravel and lay out across the surface of the water so that as the pirate boat travels through the water its propeller shaft will pick up the line and become entangled .
What if a pirate ship fires one of these on your ship first ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The payload net or rope, which has a parachute attached to the end, will unravel and lay out across the surface of the water so that as the pirate boat travels through the water its propeller shaft will pick up the line and become entangled.
What if a pirate ship fires one of these on your ship first?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267636</id>
	<title>6inchboots</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259612940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://www.6inchboot.com/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.6inchboot.com/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.6inchboot.com/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266780</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259517780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's a bad idea.  Typically the pirates don't kill the crew.  If you started having hostile crews using lethal force against pirates, you may see the pirates escalate their attack and use more deadly force.  In the end everyone loses.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a bad idea .
Typically the pirates do n't kill the crew .
If you started having hostile crews using lethal force against pirates , you may see the pirates escalate their attack and use more deadly force .
In the end everyone loses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a bad idea.
Typically the pirates don't kill the crew.
If you started having hostile crews using lethal force against pirates, you may see the pirates escalate their attack and use more deadly force.
In the end everyone loses.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269956</id>
	<title>The Answer!</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1259596680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ninjas obviously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ninjas obviously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ninjas obviously.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267440</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>timmarhy</author>
	<datestamp>1259523900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>200 miles out to sea and you've just disabled their boat perminately - i'd say you've basicly killed them anyway by leaving the to die slowly from thirst.</htmltext>
<tokenext>200 miles out to sea and you 've just disabled their boat perminately - i 'd say you 've basicly killed them anyway by leaving the to die slowly from thirst .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>200 miles out to sea and you've just disabled their boat perminately - i'd say you've basicly killed them anyway by leaving the to die slowly from thirst.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269942</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1259596620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not a Pirate, more of a buccaneer really!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not a Pirate , more of a buccaneer really !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not a Pirate, more of a buccaneer really!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267876</id>
	<title>stoopid humans</title>
	<author>idji</author>
	<datestamp>1259572740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>more rubbish in the seas to choke turtles, sharks and dolphins</htmltext>
<tokenext>more rubbish in the seas to choke turtles , sharks and dolphins</tokentext>
<sentencetext>more rubbish in the seas to choke turtles, sharks and dolphins</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269540</id>
	<title>Sounds Useful... To a Pirate</title>
	<author>osomoore</author>
	<datestamp>1259593740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If I were a pirate, I would totally buy one of these.  Disabling a ship for 45 minutes is a great way to catch and board it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I were a pirate , I would totally buy one of these .
Disabling a ship for 45 minutes is a great way to catch and board it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I were a pirate, I would totally buy one of these.
Disabling a ship for 45 minutes is a great way to catch and board it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266910</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>timmarhy</author>
	<datestamp>1259518740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>no fancy 35mm canon for me, i'd load my boat with ninja's.</htmltext>
<tokenext>no fancy 35mm canon for me , i 'd load my boat with ninja 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no fancy 35mm canon for me, i'd load my boat with ninja's.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30271590</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259605740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Genius. And what happens when the pirates manage to catch ship by surprise, say after the lookout fell asleep?</p><p>The pirates have themselves a heavy machine gun!</p><p>No doubt you'll suggest the merchants tool up - perhaps a 20mm cannon? I'll leave you to figure out what happens next, but the end result is pirates and merchants staging pitched battles with heavy artillery.</p><p>The financial result, for the shipping company with fatalaties in their crew, is worse than paying the ransom. Heavy weaponry, my inevitably american friend, is not necessarily the right answer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Genius .
And what happens when the pirates manage to catch ship by surprise , say after the lookout fell asleep ? The pirates have themselves a heavy machine gun ! No doubt you 'll suggest the merchants tool up - perhaps a 20mm cannon ?
I 'll leave you to figure out what happens next , but the end result is pirates and merchants staging pitched battles with heavy artillery.The financial result , for the shipping company with fatalaties in their crew , is worse than paying the ransom .
Heavy weaponry , my inevitably american friend , is not necessarily the right answer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Genius.
And what happens when the pirates manage to catch ship by surprise, say after the lookout fell asleep?The pirates have themselves a heavy machine gun!No doubt you'll suggest the merchants tool up - perhaps a 20mm cannon?
I'll leave you to figure out what happens next, but the end result is pirates and merchants staging pitched battles with heavy artillery.The financial result, for the shipping company with fatalaties in their crew, is worse than paying the ransom.
Heavy weaponry, my inevitably american friend, is not necessarily the right answer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269056</id>
	<title>Where have we heard that suggestion before?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just <i>shoot</i> the fuckers already. Pretty soon there won't be any more of them.</p></div><p>
Yeah, just like executing and imprisoning spammers has helped tremendously to slow down the worldwide spamming epidemic.  It's guaranteed to work!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just shoot the fuckers already .
Pretty soon there wo n't be any more of them .
Yeah , just like executing and imprisoning spammers has helped tremendously to slow down the worldwide spamming epidemic .
It 's guaranteed to work !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just shoot the fuckers already.
Pretty soon there won't be any more of them.
Yeah, just like executing and imprisoning spammers has helped tremendously to slow down the worldwide spamming epidemic.
It's guaranteed to work!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266506</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30271522</id>
	<title>Re:Wont do much good...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259605380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You foul their props at 400m, they'll punch a hole in the side of your cargo vessel with an RPG at 400m easy as pie</p></div><p>
&nbsp; <br>...and what happens next? these vessels are huge, you can punch 300 RPG holes without hitting anything worth it.... firing form a moving vessel, standing, at a slow moving target....good luck; while an RPG can FLY 400 mt, actually hitting where you aim at that distance is chancy....<br>
&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp; I also think that all this ruckus about  positive identification of pirates is a bit overrated, because fishermen do not RACE against fish, thay catch it with nets; so anything capable of doing &gt;25 knots on the open sea and coming at you is asking for trouble; no harm done in letting him see how<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.50 cal tracers can be seen in broad daylight.<br>
&nbsp;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You foul their props at 400m , they 'll punch a hole in the side of your cargo vessel with an RPG at 400m easy as pie   ...and what happens next ?
these vessels are huge , you can punch 300 RPG holes without hitting anything worth it.... firing form a moving vessel , standing , at a slow moving target....good luck ; while an RPG can FLY 400 mt , actually hitting where you aim at that distance is chancy... .     I also think that all this ruckus about positive identification of pirates is a bit overrated , because fishermen do not RACE against fish , thay catch it with nets ; so anything capable of doing &gt; 25 knots on the open sea and coming at you is asking for trouble ; no harm done in letting him see how .50 cal tracers can be seen in broad daylight .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>You foul their props at 400m, they'll punch a hole in the side of your cargo vessel with an RPG at 400m easy as pie
  ...and what happens next?
these vessels are huge, you can punch 300 RPG holes without hitting anything worth it.... firing form a moving vessel, standing, at a slow moving target....good luck; while an RPG can FLY 400 mt, actually hitting where you aim at that distance is chancy....
  
  I also think that all this ruckus about  positive identification of pirates is a bit overrated, because fishermen do not RACE against fish, thay catch it with nets; so anything capable of doing &gt;25 knots on the open sea and coming at you is asking for trouble; no harm done in letting him see how .50 cal tracers can be seen in broad daylight.
 
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267048</id>
	<title>Lunacy!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259520000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So they had water cannons, noise makers, and now a flippin' rope cannon?  Give those ships real guns with real bullets already!  These pirates mean business.  Any resistance these pirates meet is often returned with lethal force.  Giving in to them and paying ransom is just calling for more of the same.  Pay the Danegeld and you don't get rid of the Dane.</p><p>These ships need to have weapons that can match or surpass what the pirates have.  Bolt a 25 mike mike to the deck if you must.  Some little ship comes screaming up to your ship with guys carrying machine guns and rocket launchers shooting at you then its weapons free.  They understand return fire.  Make it too difficult to be worth their time and the piracy will stop.</p><p>All of this less than lethal crap has got to end.  Give those ships real guns with real bullets!</p><p>Yep, I'm a bit perturbed over this.  All this politically correct crap is getting people killed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So they had water cannons , noise makers , and now a flippin ' rope cannon ?
Give those ships real guns with real bullets already !
These pirates mean business .
Any resistance these pirates meet is often returned with lethal force .
Giving in to them and paying ransom is just calling for more of the same .
Pay the Danegeld and you do n't get rid of the Dane.These ships need to have weapons that can match or surpass what the pirates have .
Bolt a 25 mike mike to the deck if you must .
Some little ship comes screaming up to your ship with guys carrying machine guns and rocket launchers shooting at you then its weapons free .
They understand return fire .
Make it too difficult to be worth their time and the piracy will stop.All of this less than lethal crap has got to end .
Give those ships real guns with real bullets ! Yep , I 'm a bit perturbed over this .
All this politically correct crap is getting people killed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they had water cannons, noise makers, and now a flippin' rope cannon?
Give those ships real guns with real bullets already!
These pirates mean business.
Any resistance these pirates meet is often returned with lethal force.
Giving in to them and paying ransom is just calling for more of the same.
Pay the Danegeld and you don't get rid of the Dane.These ships need to have weapons that can match or surpass what the pirates have.
Bolt a 25 mike mike to the deck if you must.
Some little ship comes screaming up to your ship with guys carrying machine guns and rocket launchers shooting at you then its weapons free.
They understand return fire.
Make it too difficult to be worth their time and the piracy will stop.All of this less than lethal crap has got to end.
Give those ships real guns with real bullets!Yep, I'm a bit perturbed over this.
All this politically correct crap is getting people killed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30270120</id>
	<title>Promising times...</title>
	<author>Tellarin</author>
	<datestamp>1259597700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pirates... check!<br>Cannons... check!</p><p>Guess history really repeats itself as people say.</p><p>What now? With this many pirates, I guess the solution to the whole global warming is coming, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pirates... check ! Cannons... check ! Guess history really repeats itself as people say.What now ?
With this many pirates , I guess the solution to the whole global warming is coming , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pirates... check!Cannons... check!Guess history really repeats itself as people say.What now?
With this many pirates, I guess the solution to the whole global warming is coming, right?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268864</id>
	<title>History</title>
	<author>rdmiller3</author>
	<datestamp>1259586960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Historically, the most effective strategy has been to find out where the pirates live, then send the navy there to point big guns at their homes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Historically , the most effective strategy has been to find out where the pirates live , then send the navy there to point big guns at their homes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Historically, the most effective strategy has been to find out where the pirates live, then send the navy there to point big guns at their homes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266934</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1259518980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <em>but if I were a captain of a ship being raided, I doubt I would prefer gumming up their motors to blowing them out of the water. Not only that but if you just mess with the pirates equipment they will just go on to do the same again later once they repair it.</em> </p><p>
Many countries in that region forbid ships that contain the necessary guns (to blow a vessel out of the water) from entering, and forbid ships whose crew are armed with personal guns  from entering their waters, or their ports. Only pirates can carry deadly weapons  (legally).
</p><p>
Also, Somalia, and several other countries in that region, have an international arms embargo in place.   It's a violation of international law to bring weapons through there.    Thus, only the criminals have guns.
</p><p>
Most ships don't want to even carry real guns, anyways, let alone armament capable of blowing other vessels out of the water.
Gunpowder can accidentally be ignited: an accident on board  could blow \_themselves\_ out of the water,  let-alone the possibility of their own weapons being used to hijack the vessel.
</p><p>
If pirates board, they can takeover control of those weapons and use them to kill people.
They also have more weapons and ammo which may otherwise be a little hard for pirates to get.
</p><p>
Having deadly weapons on-board poses risks.
</p><p>
So, these are just some reasons to prefer stun devices.
</p><p>
Also the obvious matter, that stunning still stops the pirates, maybe allows them to be arrested and dealt with by authorities, with minimal loss of life  (including minimal damage / minimal loss of life to the possibly captured vessel and innocent bystanders the pirates were attempting to use to capture the bigger vessel).
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>but if I were a captain of a ship being raided , I doubt I would prefer gumming up their motors to blowing them out of the water .
Not only that but if you just mess with the pirates equipment they will just go on to do the same again later once they repair it .
Many countries in that region forbid ships that contain the necessary guns ( to blow a vessel out of the water ) from entering , and forbid ships whose crew are armed with personal guns from entering their waters , or their ports .
Only pirates can carry deadly weapons ( legally ) .
Also , Somalia , and several other countries in that region , have an international arms embargo in place .
It 's a violation of international law to bring weapons through there .
Thus , only the criminals have guns .
Most ships do n't want to even carry real guns , anyways , let alone armament capable of blowing other vessels out of the water .
Gunpowder can accidentally be ignited : an accident on board could blow \ _themselves \ _ out of the water , let-alone the possibility of their own weapons being used to hijack the vessel .
If pirates board , they can takeover control of those weapons and use them to kill people .
They also have more weapons and ammo which may otherwise be a little hard for pirates to get .
Having deadly weapons on-board poses risks .
So , these are just some reasons to prefer stun devices .
Also the obvious matter , that stunning still stops the pirates , maybe allows them to be arrested and dealt with by authorities , with minimal loss of life ( including minimal damage / minimal loss of life to the possibly captured vessel and innocent bystanders the pirates were attempting to use to capture the bigger vessel ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> but if I were a captain of a ship being raided, I doubt I would prefer gumming up their motors to blowing them out of the water.
Not only that but if you just mess with the pirates equipment they will just go on to do the same again later once they repair it.
Many countries in that region forbid ships that contain the necessary guns (to blow a vessel out of the water) from entering, and forbid ships whose crew are armed with personal guns  from entering their waters, or their ports.
Only pirates can carry deadly weapons  (legally).
Also, Somalia, and several other countries in that region, have an international arms embargo in place.
It's a violation of international law to bring weapons through there.
Thus, only the criminals have guns.
Most ships don't want to even carry real guns, anyways, let alone armament capable of blowing other vessels out of the water.
Gunpowder can accidentally be ignited: an accident on board  could blow \_themselves\_ out of the water,  let-alone the possibility of their own weapons being used to hijack the vessel.
If pirates board, they can takeover control of those weapons and use them to kill people.
They also have more weapons and ammo which may otherwise be a little hard for pirates to get.
Having deadly weapons on-board poses risks.
So, these are just some reasons to prefer stun devices.
Also the obvious matter, that stunning still stops the pirates, maybe allows them to be arrested and dealt with by authorities, with minimal loss of life  (including minimal damage / minimal loss of life to the possibly captured vessel and innocent bystanders the pirates were attempting to use to capture the bigger vessel).
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269210</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259591340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And you must be the typical extremist ignoring the obvious.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The answer to your question in the civilized world is: "Because only army and police carry guns".</p></div><p>I'm going to say something that will disturb your quaint Garden Of Eden mentality.</p><p><b>The pirates also have guns. </b></p><p>So that means in your paradigm we are not in the civilised world, where piracy abounds, and under your claim of civility we need constant police/military escort to sail these waters. I'm assuming there's not money nor manpower for this task, so we resort to the obvious and level the playing field.</p><p>That said, I think the technology presented here is a great option.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And you must be the typical extremist ignoring the obvious.The answer to your question in the civilized world is : " Because only army and police carry guns " .I 'm going to say something that will disturb your quaint Garden Of Eden mentality.The pirates also have guns .
So that means in your paradigm we are not in the civilised world , where piracy abounds , and under your claim of civility we need constant police/military escort to sail these waters .
I 'm assuming there 's not money nor manpower for this task , so we resort to the obvious and level the playing field.That said , I think the technology presented here is a great option .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And you must be the typical extremist ignoring the obvious.The answer to your question in the civilized world is: "Because only army and police carry guns".I'm going to say something that will disturb your quaint Garden Of Eden mentality.The pirates also have guns.
So that means in your paradigm we are not in the civilised world, where piracy abounds, and under your claim of civility we need constant police/military escort to sail these waters.
I'm assuming there's not money nor manpower for this task, so we resort to the obvious and level the playing field.That said, I think the technology presented here is a great option.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268884</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30274072</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>bflong</author>
	<datestamp>1259573160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>at least till they get their hands on some jet boats</i></p><p>Or weed guards.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>at least till they get their hands on some jet boatsOr weed guards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>at least till they get their hands on some jet boatsOr weed guards.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266678</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269400</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And if you shot fishermen or other innocent people by accident?</p></div><p>Pirates are easily identifiable by their actions. Fishermen do not wear masks and carry machine guns.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And if you shot fishermen or other innocent people by accident ? Pirates are easily identifiable by their actions .
Fishermen do not wear masks and carry machine guns .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if you shot fishermen or other innocent people by accident?Pirates are easily identifiable by their actions.
Fishermen do not wear masks and carry machine guns.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266548</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269334</id>
	<title>Re:D....waving on the Internet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259592300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Blasting them out of the water is the best option.</p><p>They are looking to daft technological solutions when the solution is a legal one. Allow merchant shipping in the region a few<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.50cal machine guns to defend themselves.</p><p>All it would take would be US and EU support to make it happen. Everyone would play ball and change a few laws when the big countries demand it. Even if its not their region or ports its largely their insurers picking up the bill. It would likely have the support of all the countries with a Navy anyway since its likely to be cheaper than keeping all those navy craft patroling uselessly out there.</p><p>The only other options are to keep paying ransoms, build a capable puppet government and military in Somalia, or to commit large scale slaughter of whatever town the pirate operate from. All of which are more expensive, two of which are morally more shady than armed merchant shipping.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Blasting them out of the water is the best option.They are looking to daft technological solutions when the solution is a legal one .
Allow merchant shipping in the region a few .50cal machine guns to defend themselves.All it would take would be US and EU support to make it happen .
Everyone would play ball and change a few laws when the big countries demand it .
Even if its not their region or ports its largely their insurers picking up the bill .
It would likely have the support of all the countries with a Navy anyway since its likely to be cheaper than keeping all those navy craft patroling uselessly out there.The only other options are to keep paying ransoms , build a capable puppet government and military in Somalia , or to commit large scale slaughter of whatever town the pirate operate from .
All of which are more expensive , two of which are morally more shady than armed merchant shipping .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Blasting them out of the water is the best option.They are looking to daft technological solutions when the solution is a legal one.
Allow merchant shipping in the region a few .50cal machine guns to defend themselves.All it would take would be US and EU support to make it happen.
Everyone would play ball and change a few laws when the big countries demand it.
Even if its not their region or ports its largely their insurers picking up the bill.
It would likely have the support of all the countries with a Navy anyway since its likely to be cheaper than keeping all those navy craft patroling uselessly out there.The only other options are to keep paying ransoms, build a capable puppet government and military in Somalia, or to commit large scale slaughter of whatever town the pirate operate from.
All of which are more expensive, two of which are morally more shady than armed merchant shipping.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30270846</id>
	<title>Re:Golf balls? Ropes? Parachutes?!</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1259602080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Just shoot the fuckers already. Pretty soon there won't be any more of them.
</i>
<br>
<br>
Yeah, that theory worked out so well in Iraq and Afghanistan.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just shoot the fuckers already .
Pretty soon there wo n't be any more of them .
Yeah , that theory worked out so well in Iraq and Afghanistan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just shoot the fuckers already.
Pretty soon there won't be any more of them.
Yeah, that theory worked out so well in Iraq and Afghanistan.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266506</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266614</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259516340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you're in a small single-engine craft, in waters off the coast of Somalia, and you continue to approach any large commercial vehicle despite repeated auditory warnings, you deserve to be obliterated.</p><p>Sometimes being the devil's advocate is quite a useless and stupid exercise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're in a small single-engine craft , in waters off the coast of Somalia , and you continue to approach any large commercial vehicle despite repeated auditory warnings , you deserve to be obliterated.Sometimes being the devil 's advocate is quite a useless and stupid exercise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're in a small single-engine craft, in waters off the coast of Somalia, and you continue to approach any large commercial vehicle despite repeated auditory warnings, you deserve to be obliterated.Sometimes being the devil's advocate is quite a useless and stupid exercise.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30274862</id>
	<title>Attack on the Barbary States?</title>
	<author>relaxinparadise</author>
	<datestamp>1259576280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's to stop a nation or group of nations from attacking Eyl in the Puntland region and bringing the problem to some sort of conclusion? Didn't the American Marines do something akin to this with the Barbary States in the late 18th century?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's to stop a nation or group of nations from attacking Eyl in the Puntland region and bringing the problem to some sort of conclusion ?
Did n't the American Marines do something akin to this with the Barbary States in the late 18th century ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's to stop a nation or group of nations from attacking Eyl in the Puntland region and bringing the problem to some sort of conclusion?
Didn't the American Marines do something akin to this with the Barbary States in the late 18th century?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267708</id>
	<title>EMRG FTW</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259613960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was surprised it hadn't already been mentioned...</p><p>EM Railgun?  Any projectile at 2520 m/s (mach 8) should get the job done.  =]</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">EMRG</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was surprised it had n't already been mentioned...EM Railgun ?
Any projectile at 2520 m/s ( mach 8 ) should get the job done .
= ] EMRG [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was surprised it hadn't already been mentioned...EM Railgun?
Any projectile at 2520 m/s (mach 8) should get the job done.
=]EMRG [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269526</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Jah-Wren Ryel</author>
	<datestamp>1259593620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>On the other hand, escalating it so the pirates have the potential of a real consequence (death versus...</p></div><p>What?  You think only the good guys are capable of escalating?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>On the other hand , escalating it so the pirates have the potential of a real consequence ( death versus...What ?
You think only the good guys are capable of escalating ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the other hand, escalating it so the pirates have the potential of a real consequence (death versus...What?
You think only the good guys are capable of escalating?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267222</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269254</id>
	<title>Think of the children!</title>
	<author>Exception Duck</author>
	<datestamp>1259591580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Leave those pirates alone!</p><p><a href="http://generallordisimo.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/global-warming.jpg" title="wordpress.com">http://generallordisimo.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/global-warming.jpg</a> [wordpress.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Leave those pirates alone ! http : //generallordisimo.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/global-warming.jpg [ wordpress.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Leave those pirates alone!http://generallordisimo.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/global-warming.jpg [wordpress.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266814</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Hadlock</author>
	<datestamp>1259517960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most of the people doing the actual "pirating" have been pushed to it by their government. The source of the problem isn't greed, it's necessity (with a decent payoff, too).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of the people doing the actual " pirating " have been pushed to it by their government .
The source of the problem is n't greed , it 's necessity ( with a decent payoff , too ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of the people doing the actual "pirating" have been pushed to it by their government.
The source of the problem isn't greed, it's necessity (with a decent payoff, too).</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30272826</id>
	<title>Keyboard Commandos</title>
	<author>Beelzebud</author>
	<datestamp>1259611680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So many armchair warriors in this thread.  It sure is easy to sit in a comfortable room, and type about how much simpler it would be if we could just shoot all of the pirates.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So many armchair warriors in this thread .
It sure is easy to sit in a comfortable room , and type about how much simpler it would be if we could just shoot all of the pirates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So many armchair warriors in this thread.
It sure is easy to sit in a comfortable room, and type about how much simpler it would be if we could just shoot all of the pirates.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30278414</id>
	<title>Easily Defeated?</title>
	<author>sincewhen</author>
	<datestamp>1259594340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Couldn't this be easily defeated with a simple propeller guard, even just a few steel bars from the hull to below the propeller?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could n't this be easily defeated with a simple propeller guard , even just a few steel bars from the hull to below the propeller ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Couldn't this be easily defeated with a simple propeller guard, even just a few steel bars from the hull to below the propeller?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266972</id>
	<title>might work once, if that</title>
	<author>dltaylor</author>
	<datestamp>1259519280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A cheap, simple, easily fabricated cage around the prop solves this for the pirates.</p><p>Design it so the rope/net just slides below the prop.  It'll add some drag, slowing them down a bit, which may help, but a larger engine solves that.</p><p>Just another corp' making money from fear, while providing no real protection.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A cheap , simple , easily fabricated cage around the prop solves this for the pirates.Design it so the rope/net just slides below the prop .
It 'll add some drag , slowing them down a bit , which may help , but a larger engine solves that.Just another corp ' making money from fear , while providing no real protection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A cheap, simple, easily fabricated cage around the prop solves this for the pirates.Design it so the rope/net just slides below the prop.
It'll add some drag, slowing them down a bit, which may help, but a larger engine solves that.Just another corp' making money from fear, while providing no real protection.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268658</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259583960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think all they would have to do is start bringing along some helpless 5 year old kids for the trip. Would we blow them out of the water then? Perhaps not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think all they would have to do is start bringing along some helpless 5 year old kids for the trip .
Would we blow them out of the water then ?
Perhaps not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think all they would have to do is start bringing along some helpless 5 year old kids for the trip.
Would we blow them out of the water then?
Perhaps not.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268766</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>mpe</author>
	<datestamp>1259585460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>200 miles out to sea and you've just disabled their boat perminately - i'd say you've basicly killed them anyway by leaving the to die slowly from thirst.</i> <br> <br>In which case you need to carry some additional life rafts that you can give them. Anyway according the the article this only diables the boat for under an hour.</htmltext>
<tokenext>200 miles out to sea and you 've just disabled their boat perminately - i 'd say you 've basicly killed them anyway by leaving the to die slowly from thirst .
In which case you need to carry some additional life rafts that you can give them .
Anyway according the the article this only diables the boat for under an hour .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>200 miles out to sea and you've just disabled their boat perminately - i'd say you've basicly killed them anyway by leaving the to die slowly from thirst.
In which case you need to carry some additional life rafts that you can give them.
Anyway according the the article this only diables the boat for under an hour.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30280298</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>FragHARD</author>
	<datestamp>1259700360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well the fishermen shouldn't be dressing up like pirates....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well the fishermen should n't be dressing up like pirates... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well the fishermen shouldn't be dressing up like pirates....</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267632</id>
	<title>Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259612880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And what did history tell us about dealing with buccaneers?</p><p>Nothing short of a punitive and lethal land campaign, <b>killing</b> and <b>maiming</b> their loved ones, <b>burning their homes</b> and <b>raping</b> their cattle will stop them. I suggest you bring one or more Scottish regiments for that last bit about the cattle though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And what did history tell us about dealing with buccaneers ? Nothing short of a punitive and lethal land campaign , killing and maiming their loved ones , burning their homes and raping their cattle will stop them .
I suggest you bring one or more Scottish regiments for that last bit about the cattle though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And what did history tell us about dealing with buccaneers?Nothing short of a punitive and lethal land campaign, killing and maiming their loved ones, burning their homes and raping their cattle will stop them.
I suggest you bring one or more Scottish regiments for that last bit about the cattle though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266652</id>
	<title>Why use non lethal weapons?</title>
	<author>kawabago</author>
	<datestamp>1259516640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Find a pirate vessel, sink it. Don't look for survivors. Soon there will be no more pirates.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Find a pirate vessel , sink it .
Do n't look for survivors .
Soon there will be no more pirates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Find a pirate vessel, sink it.
Don't look for survivors.
Soon there will be no more pirates.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267328</id>
	<title>Re:Golf balls? Ropes? Parachutes?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259522640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just shoot the fuckers already. Pretty soon there won't be any more of them.</p></div><p>By them, do you mean <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south\_asia/7749245.stm" title="bbc.co.uk">pirates or fisherman?</a> [bbc.co.uk] </p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just shoot the fuckers already .
Pretty soon there wo n't be any more of them.By them , do you mean pirates or fisherman ?
[ bbc.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just shoot the fuckers already.
Pretty soon there won't be any more of them.By them, do you mean pirates or fisherman?
[bbc.co.uk] 
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269550</id>
	<title>Re:D....waving on the Internet</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1259593800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First of all, the pirates are poorly equipped in almost all cases. If they had really big guns, the various militaries would put a lot more effort into finding them. Given the USA's broadly deployed sonar nets and the vast size of our navy, it is preposterous to believe that we have put any real effort at all into wiping out piracy in the region.</p><p>The easiest way to eliminate pirates would be to mount military-controlled combat UAVs on freighters, operated by satellite network. Current UAV designs include firearms and a kamikaze capability, so they are certainly capable of disabling merchant vessels like the repurposed ones the pirates are running around with. It's not like they have military cruisers, they have yachts and powerboats and some of the faster merchant ships. Reinforcements could be launched from other nearby vessels.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First of all , the pirates are poorly equipped in almost all cases .
If they had really big guns , the various militaries would put a lot more effort into finding them .
Given the USA 's broadly deployed sonar nets and the vast size of our navy , it is preposterous to believe that we have put any real effort at all into wiping out piracy in the region.The easiest way to eliminate pirates would be to mount military-controlled combat UAVs on freighters , operated by satellite network .
Current UAV designs include firearms and a kamikaze capability , so they are certainly capable of disabling merchant vessels like the repurposed ones the pirates are running around with .
It 's not like they have military cruisers , they have yachts and powerboats and some of the faster merchant ships .
Reinforcements could be launched from other nearby vessels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First of all, the pirates are poorly equipped in almost all cases.
If they had really big guns, the various militaries would put a lot more effort into finding them.
Given the USA's broadly deployed sonar nets and the vast size of our navy, it is preposterous to believe that we have put any real effort at all into wiping out piracy in the region.The easiest way to eliminate pirates would be to mount military-controlled combat UAVs on freighters, operated by satellite network.
Current UAV designs include firearms and a kamikaze capability, so they are certainly capable of disabling merchant vessels like the repurposed ones the pirates are running around with.
It's not like they have military cruisers, they have yachts and powerboats and some of the faster merchant ships.
Reinforcements could be launched from other nearby vessels.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266730</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>icegreentea</author>
	<datestamp>1259517360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This happens in pretty much every discussion involving pirates. Simply said, there are a very large amounts of ports in the world that do that ships with weapons. Beyond that, I'm sure arming your ship will bring you into completely different categories of international and maritime law that could cause all sorts of problems. And this is before we even start thinking about insurance companies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This happens in pretty much every discussion involving pirates .
Simply said , there are a very large amounts of ports in the world that do that ships with weapons .
Beyond that , I 'm sure arming your ship will bring you into completely different categories of international and maritime law that could cause all sorts of problems .
And this is before we even start thinking about insurance companies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This happens in pretty much every discussion involving pirates.
Simply said, there are a very large amounts of ports in the world that do that ships with weapons.
Beyond that, I'm sure arming your ship will bring you into completely different categories of international and maritime law that could cause all sorts of problems.
And this is before we even start thinking about insurance companies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30276634</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1259582820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Imagine what happens if the pirates capture a large vessel that actually DOES have that 35mm AP thing mounted."</p><p>Put a JDAM into it. Take the loss. Kill the enemy.<br>The historic method that works against pirates is to kill them, destroy their land bases where practical, and keep killing them until they quit. Ruthlessness without rules is all that works against some enemies.</p><p>Never, ever forget that rules only restrain those who obey them. Rules do not make power, only limit and guide it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Imagine what happens if the pirates capture a large vessel that actually DOES have that 35mm AP thing mounted .
" Put a JDAM into it .
Take the loss .
Kill the enemy.The historic method that works against pirates is to kill them , destroy their land bases where practical , and keep killing them until they quit .
Ruthlessness without rules is all that works against some enemies.Never , ever forget that rules only restrain those who obey them .
Rules do not make power , only limit and guide it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Imagine what happens if the pirates capture a large vessel that actually DOES have that 35mm AP thing mounted.
"Put a JDAM into it.
Take the loss.
Kill the enemy.The historic method that works against pirates is to kill them, destroy their land bases where practical, and keep killing them until they quit.
Ruthlessness without rules is all that works against some enemies.Never, ever forget that rules only restrain those who obey them.
Rules do not make power, only limit and guide it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267020</id>
	<title>So, a net gun?</title>
	<author>NoPantsJim</author>
	<datestamp>1259519760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As Brock Samson once said, "I'm so keeping this thing, it's the first net-cannon I've used that actually works, they usually just mess up the guy's hair."</htmltext>
<tokenext>As Brock Samson once said , " I 'm so keeping this thing , it 's the first net-cannon I 've used that actually works , they usually just mess up the guy 's hair .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As Brock Samson once said, "I'm so keeping this thing, it's the first net-cannon I've used that actually works, they usually just mess up the guy's hair.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266768</id>
	<title>Why are we playing games with these thugs?</title>
	<author>schwit1</author>
	<datestamp>1259517600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They only understand force.
<p>
Arm the crew when they get into hostile waters. Put the arms under lock and key when they leave hostile waters.
</p><p>
Announce before entering a port that you have weapons, but they are locked up. Let the harbor pilot have the key and verify weapons are secure before allowing the vessel into port. Then get the key back when existing the harbor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They only understand force .
Arm the crew when they get into hostile waters .
Put the arms under lock and key when they leave hostile waters .
Announce before entering a port that you have weapons , but they are locked up .
Let the harbor pilot have the key and verify weapons are secure before allowing the vessel into port .
Then get the key back when existing the harbor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They only understand force.
Arm the crew when they get into hostile waters.
Put the arms under lock and key when they leave hostile waters.
Announce before entering a port that you have weapons, but they are locked up.
Let the harbor pilot have the key and verify weapons are secure before allowing the vessel into port.
Then get the key back when existing the harbor.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266662</id>
	<title>golf balls</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259516640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>they should use srixon zurc's if they're going to use golf balls for the piercing ball flight and lower launch angle</p><p>lets hope the pirates dont get clever and start catching them and putting them on e-bay as one hit wonders</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>they should use srixon zurc 's if they 're going to use golf balls for the piercing ball flight and lower launch anglelets hope the pirates dont get clever and start catching them and putting them on e-bay as one hit wonders</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they should use srixon zurc's if they're going to use golf balls for the piercing ball flight and lower launch anglelets hope the pirates dont get clever and start catching them and putting them on e-bay as one hit wonders</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268874</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Rogerborg</author>
	<datestamp>1259587080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Before you attempt to kill them, you have to be certain that they are a pirate.</p></div></blockquote><p>Uh huh.  I'm reminded of the old adage that a liberal is just a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Before you attempt to kill them , you have to be certain that they are a pirate.Uh huh .
I 'm reminded of the old adage that a liberal is just a conservative who has n't been mugged yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Before you attempt to kill them, you have to be certain that they are a pirate.Uh huh.
I'm reminded of the old adage that a liberal is just a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266778</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259517660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd say that if the people in a small boat are shooting Kalashnikovs at you, it would be safe to assume they are not innocent people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd say that if the people in a small boat are shooting Kalashnikovs at you , it would be safe to assume they are not innocent people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd say that if the people in a small boat are shooting Kalashnikovs at you, it would be safe to assume they are not innocent people.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266584</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259516220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Self defense its self is politically incorrect these days...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Self defense its self is politically incorrect these days.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Self defense its self is politically incorrect these days...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266570</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>bsharp8256</author>
	<datestamp>1259516100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Totally agreed. The problem is that foreign ports don't like to have evil guns on private ships in their harbors.

Lately, though, it seems things are turning around:
<a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/20/an-anti-pirate-policy-that-works/" title="washingtontimes.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/20/an-anti-pirate-policy-that-works/</a> [washingtontimes.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Totally agreed .
The problem is that foreign ports do n't like to have evil guns on private ships in their harbors .
Lately , though , it seems things are turning around : http : //www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/20/an-anti-pirate-policy-that-works/ [ washingtontimes.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Totally agreed.
The problem is that foreign ports don't like to have evil guns on private ships in their harbors.
Lately, though, it seems things are turning around:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/20/an-anti-pirate-policy-that-works/ [washingtontimes.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267960</id>
	<title>What's the alternative?</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1259574000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yep, I'm a bit perturbed over this. All this politically correct crap is getting people killed.</p></div><p>As opposed to the solutions that would actually work.  They'd get <em>other</em> people killed.</p><p>(But I see what you mean, and agree...)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , I 'm a bit perturbed over this .
All this politically correct crap is getting people killed.As opposed to the solutions that would actually work .
They 'd get other people killed .
( But I see what you mean , and agree... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, I'm a bit perturbed over this.
All this politically correct crap is getting people killed.As opposed to the solutions that would actually work.
They'd get other people killed.
(But I see what you mean, and agree...)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267068</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>PitaBred</author>
	<datestamp>1259520120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tossing a net in the water is a lot easier, and considering most of the crew is probably civilian, it's probably more palatable. Not everyone is perfectly ok with killing other people, even if they deserve it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tossing a net in the water is a lot easier , and considering most of the crew is probably civilian , it 's probably more palatable .
Not everyone is perfectly ok with killing other people , even if they deserve it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tossing a net in the water is a lot easier, and considering most of the crew is probably civilian, it's probably more palatable.
Not everyone is perfectly ok with killing other people, even if they deserve it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266968</id>
	<title>Won't somebody think of the dolphins?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259519280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Anonymous | 24 Nov 2009 9:49 am</p><p>I hope the net is bio-degradeable and not a danger to marine life. I can't see many pirates disposing of it carefully afterwards.</p><p>jonathan delf | 24 Nov 2009 10:53 am</p><p>Currently the net is not bio-degradeable, although we are looking at alternatives that are. Ultimately we would hope this system would be used in emergencies only. It's a comprimise really, the hazard of a small net to marine life vs the hazard of an uncontrolled or sinking oil tanker which has become a victim of piracy.</p><p>
Jonathan
</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
This was actually my first thought. The remains from a single shot of this contraption may remain afloat for a long time and hurt several animals. Still, Jonathan makes a good point, assuming vessels are often sunk and not just held for ransom, Any facts on this?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anonymous | 24 Nov 2009 9 : 49 amI hope the net is bio-degradeable and not a danger to marine life .
I ca n't see many pirates disposing of it carefully afterwards.jonathan delf | 24 Nov 2009 10 : 53 amCurrently the net is not bio-degradeable , although we are looking at alternatives that are .
Ultimately we would hope this system would be used in emergencies only .
It 's a comprimise really , the hazard of a small net to marine life vs the hazard of an uncontrolled or sinking oil tanker which has become a victim of piracy .
Jonathan This was actually my first thought .
The remains from a single shot of this contraption may remain afloat for a long time and hurt several animals .
Still , Jonathan makes a good point , assuming vessels are often sunk and not just held for ransom , Any facts on this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anonymous | 24 Nov 2009 9:49 amI hope the net is bio-degradeable and not a danger to marine life.
I can't see many pirates disposing of it carefully afterwards.jonathan delf | 24 Nov 2009 10:53 amCurrently the net is not bio-degradeable, although we are looking at alternatives that are.
Ultimately we would hope this system would be used in emergencies only.
It's a comprimise really, the hazard of a small net to marine life vs the hazard of an uncontrolled or sinking oil tanker which has become a victim of piracy.
Jonathan


This was actually my first thought.
The remains from a single shot of this contraption may remain afloat for a long time and hurt several animals.
Still, Jonathan makes a good point, assuming vessels are often sunk and not just held for ransom, Any facts on this?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268884</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259587320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You must be American.</p><p>The answer to your question in the civilized world is: "Because only army and police carry guns".</p><p>Imagine what happens if the pirates capture a large vessel that actually DOES have that 35mm AP thing mounted.</p><p>the major benefit of having an air cannon with nets is that it will stop a small fishing boat, but will never hurt a 200 m tanker.</p><p>But 35mm shells WILL hurt that tanker.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You must be American.The answer to your question in the civilized world is : " Because only army and police carry guns " .Imagine what happens if the pirates capture a large vessel that actually DOES have that 35mm AP thing mounted.the major benefit of having an air cannon with nets is that it will stop a small fishing boat , but will never hurt a 200 m tanker.But 35mm shells WILL hurt that tanker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You must be American.The answer to your question in the civilized world is: "Because only army and police carry guns".Imagine what happens if the pirates capture a large vessel that actually DOES have that 35mm AP thing mounted.the major benefit of having an air cannon with nets is that it will stop a small fishing boat, but will never hurt a 200 m tanker.But 35mm shells WILL hurt that tanker.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30277524</id>
	<title>Whiners...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259587020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just arm the crews - everyone on EVERY crew gets trained in how to use a fully automatic weapon.  EVERY weapon has at least 3000 rounds available to it.  "Range firing" (which can occur at sea) must take place quarterly, everyone gets certified annually.  Unless you have a concealed carry license for the port you're entering, you leave your firearm on the ship when docking.  At least two guards remain on-board to guard the armory.</p><p>Equip the ships w/long-range sonic technology to tell the Pirates when they're about a mile away that you're armed and they are to leave the vicinity immediately, or die.</p><p>No screwing around, no second chances, if they pull up to the side of the ship and they're not in obvious distress - and they have guns and are threatening you or shooting at you, then you kill them all.  Right then and there.  Leave them for the sharks.  Run over the pirate vessel with your boat, crush it into smithereens, let it sink too.  End of problem.  No report necessary.  No bullshit, no apologies, no ransoms, etc.</p><p>As for the Somali's, I feel for their plight, but figure out another option.  Holding people hostage on the high seas (or any sea for that matter) isn't viable.  If you want assistance in learning how to do things legally, give us a call - we're pretty damn friendly and easy to work with over here in the US, and we're always looking for an opportunity...  But start with the bullshit, and you're screwed...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just arm the crews - everyone on EVERY crew gets trained in how to use a fully automatic weapon .
EVERY weapon has at least 3000 rounds available to it .
" Range firing " ( which can occur at sea ) must take place quarterly , everyone gets certified annually .
Unless you have a concealed carry license for the port you 're entering , you leave your firearm on the ship when docking .
At least two guards remain on-board to guard the armory.Equip the ships w/long-range sonic technology to tell the Pirates when they 're about a mile away that you 're armed and they are to leave the vicinity immediately , or die.No screwing around , no second chances , if they pull up to the side of the ship and they 're not in obvious distress - and they have guns and are threatening you or shooting at you , then you kill them all .
Right then and there .
Leave them for the sharks .
Run over the pirate vessel with your boat , crush it into smithereens , let it sink too .
End of problem .
No report necessary .
No bullshit , no apologies , no ransoms , etc.As for the Somali 's , I feel for their plight , but figure out another option .
Holding people hostage on the high seas ( or any sea for that matter ) is n't viable .
If you want assistance in learning how to do things legally , give us a call - we 're pretty damn friendly and easy to work with over here in the US , and we 're always looking for an opportunity... But start with the bullshit , and you 're screwed.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just arm the crews - everyone on EVERY crew gets trained in how to use a fully automatic weapon.
EVERY weapon has at least 3000 rounds available to it.
"Range firing" (which can occur at sea) must take place quarterly, everyone gets certified annually.
Unless you have a concealed carry license for the port you're entering, you leave your firearm on the ship when docking.
At least two guards remain on-board to guard the armory.Equip the ships w/long-range sonic technology to tell the Pirates when they're about a mile away that you're armed and they are to leave the vicinity immediately, or die.No screwing around, no second chances, if they pull up to the side of the ship and they're not in obvious distress - and they have guns and are threatening you or shooting at you, then you kill them all.
Right then and there.
Leave them for the sharks.
Run over the pirate vessel with your boat, crush it into smithereens, let it sink too.
End of problem.
No report necessary.
No bullshit, no apologies, no ransoms, etc.As for the Somali's, I feel for their plight, but figure out another option.
Holding people hostage on the high seas (or any sea for that matter) isn't viable.
If you want assistance in learning how to do things legally, give us a call - we're pretty damn friendly and easy to work with over here in the US, and we're always looking for an opportunity...  But start with the bullshit, and you're screwed...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30272028</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>fiannaFailMan</author>
	<datestamp>1259607540000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I think the number of pirates would be reduced if the shipping vessels had small autocannons mounted on them.   No jalopie fishing trawler can take a burst of 35mm AP shells for very long.  Problem solved.</p></div><p>The merchant navy is not the navy. Merchant sailors are not trained military personnel. Their job is to run a ship and keep it moving, not to kill people.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I think the number of pirates would be reduced if the shipping vessels had small autocannons mounted on them .
No jalopie fishing trawler can take a burst of 35mm AP shells for very long .
Problem solved.The merchant navy is not the navy .
Merchant sailors are not trained military personnel .
Their job is to run a ship and keep it moving , not to kill people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the number of pirates would be reduced if the shipping vessels had small autocannons mounted on them.
No jalopie fishing trawler can take a burst of 35mm AP shells for very long.
Problem solved.The merchant navy is not the navy.
Merchant sailors are not trained military personnel.
Their job is to run a ship and keep it moving, not to kill people.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30270416</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>eth1</author>
	<datestamp>1259599620000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I'm guessing this kind of air cannon would be a lot easier to enter international ports with. I think politics, not prudence, is why most merchant ships essentially have to be disarmed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm guessing this kind of air cannon would be a lot easier to enter international ports with .
I think politics , not prudence , is why most merchant ships essentially have to be disarmed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm guessing this kind of air cannon would be a lot easier to enter international ports with.
I think politics, not prudence, is why most merchant ships essentially have to be disarmed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30275344</id>
	<title>Re:Golf balls? Ropes? Parachutes?!</title>
	<author>TermV</author>
	<datestamp>1259578320000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I believe the US army already tested this theory in Mogadishu and it didn't work out too well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe the US army already tested this theory in Mogadishu and it did n't work out too well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe the US army already tested this theory in Mogadishu and it didn't work out too well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30274366</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>psithurism</author>
	<datestamp>1259574180000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Err, the massive propellers that most cargo ships use make trying to foul one useless?</p></div><p>Right, but pirates aren't on cargo ships, they are on speedboats.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>RPG's are probably more plentiful than golf balls in that part of the world</p></div><p>One of the protections the pirates use is that you are not allowed RPG any speedboat or fishing vessel just because it looks like it's following you, while there aren't any restrictions on dropping ropes in front of them.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Err , the massive propellers that most cargo ships use make trying to foul one useless ? Right , but pirates are n't on cargo ships , they are on speedboats.RPG 's are probably more plentiful than golf balls in that part of the worldOne of the protections the pirates use is that you are not allowed RPG any speedboat or fishing vessel just because it looks like it 's following you , while there are n't any restrictions on dropping ropes in front of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Err, the massive propellers that most cargo ships use make trying to foul one useless?Right, but pirates aren't on cargo ships, they are on speedboats.RPG's are probably more plentiful than golf balls in that part of the worldOne of the protections the pirates use is that you are not allowed RPG any speedboat or fishing vessel just because it looks like it's following you, while there aren't any restrictions on dropping ropes in front of them.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30282646</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>Ol Olsoc</author>
	<datestamp>1259680140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>The reason that we don't use the approach of frag 'em and bag 'em is twofold. They aren't a regular fighting force, and more importantly, let's say we do just decide to kill 'em all. The most likely effect of that is that the pirates will simply increase their level of kill power. I've no doubt that they could obtain lots more powerful weapons. Soon you have an actual war going on. In addition, if we start killing them wholesale, then we have a better idea of what will  happen if they kidnap any more boat crew. Hint: nothing like a little retribution.
<p>
More humane and in the end more effective are these devices to temporarily disable their boats. Only if they pull some stupid stunt like kidnapping a boat captain should we reach out and terminate them with great vigor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason that we do n't use the approach of frag 'em and bag 'em is twofold .
They are n't a regular fighting force , and more importantly , let 's say we do just decide to kill 'em all .
The most likely effect of that is that the pirates will simply increase their level of kill power .
I 've no doubt that they could obtain lots more powerful weapons .
Soon you have an actual war going on .
In addition , if we start killing them wholesale , then we have a better idea of what will happen if they kidnap any more boat crew .
Hint : nothing like a little retribution .
More humane and in the end more effective are these devices to temporarily disable their boats .
Only if they pull some stupid stunt like kidnapping a boat captain should we reach out and terminate them with great vigor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason that we don't use the approach of frag 'em and bag 'em is twofold.
They aren't a regular fighting force, and more importantly, let's say we do just decide to kill 'em all.
The most likely effect of that is that the pirates will simply increase their level of kill power.
I've no doubt that they could obtain lots more powerful weapons.
Soon you have an actual war going on.
In addition, if we start killing them wholesale, then we have a better idea of what will  happen if they kidnap any more boat crew.
Hint: nothing like a little retribution.
More humane and in the end more effective are these devices to temporarily disable their boats.
Only if they pull some stupid stunt like kidnapping a boat captain should we reach out and terminate them with great vigor.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267222</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259521620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That's a bad idea.  Typically the pirates don't kill the crew.  If you started having hostile crews using lethal force against pirates, you may see the pirates escalate their attack and use more deadly force.  In the end everyone loses.</p></div><p>On the other hand, escalating it so the pirates have the potential of a real consequence (death versus sent back to shore with a slap on the wrist) is exactly what needs to happen.  It would discourage them from trying to make easy money by being pirates, and put pressure on the vritually non-exist govt of their contries to do something about the problem.</p></div>
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<tokenext>That 's a bad idea .
Typically the pirates do n't kill the crew .
If you started having hostile crews using lethal force against pirates , you may see the pirates escalate their attack and use more deadly force .
In the end everyone loses.On the other hand , escalating it so the pirates have the potential of a real consequence ( death versus sent back to shore with a slap on the wrist ) is exactly what needs to happen .
It would discourage them from trying to make easy money by being pirates , and put pressure on the vritually non-exist govt of their contries to do something about the problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a bad idea.
Typically the pirates don't kill the crew.
If you started having hostile crews using lethal force against pirates, you may see the pirates escalate their attack and use more deadly force.
In the end everyone loses.On the other hand, escalating it so the pirates have the potential of a real consequence (death versus sent back to shore with a slap on the wrist) is exactly what needs to happen.
It would discourage them from trying to make easy money by being pirates, and put pressure on the vritually non-exist govt of their contries to do something about the problem.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266828</id>
	<title>Browning M2 - Accept No Substitutes</title>
	<author>CodeBuster</author>
	<datestamp>1259518080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>How difficult would it be to equip ships with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2\_Browning\_machine\_gun" title="wikipedia.org">Browning M2</a> [wikipedia.org]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.50 machine guns and man a watch for incoming pirate vessels. The Browning M2, with an maximum effective range of 1.2 miles, could turn those pirate skiffs into driftwood long before the pirates were in AK-47 or RPG range. Shoot em full of holes and leave them for the sharks; when word gets around the piracy doesn't pay, the pirates will forced to give up or be killed. From all appearances the pirates are in it for the money so they will give up if piracy doesn't pay; after all, dead men tell no tales and spend no money.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How difficult would it be to equip ships with Browning M2 [ wikipedia.org ] .50 machine guns and man a watch for incoming pirate vessels .
The Browning M2 , with an maximum effective range of 1.2 miles , could turn those pirate skiffs into driftwood long before the pirates were in AK-47 or RPG range .
Shoot em full of holes and leave them for the sharks ; when word gets around the piracy does n't pay , the pirates will forced to give up or be killed .
From all appearances the pirates are in it for the money so they will give up if piracy does n't pay ; after all , dead men tell no tales and spend no money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How difficult would it be to equip ships with Browning M2 [wikipedia.org] .50 machine guns and man a watch for incoming pirate vessels.
The Browning M2, with an maximum effective range of 1.2 miles, could turn those pirate skiffs into driftwood long before the pirates were in AK-47 or RPG range.
Shoot em full of holes and leave them for the sharks; when word gets around the piracy doesn't pay, the pirates will forced to give up or be killed.
From all appearances the pirates are in it for the money so they will give up if piracy doesn't pay; after all, dead men tell no tales and spend no money.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30271326</id>
	<title>Re:D....waving on the Internet</title>
	<author>flyneye</author>
	<datestamp>1259604300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Gosh maybe we should just drop our pants and grease up.<br>Maybe you wanna tickle the pirates with air guns.<br>An evening of sinking ships, burning bodies and scoping  pirates like deer sounds better.<br>You just go right ahead and not kill them all. Hell, make friends, invite em over for dinner.<br>They wouldn't kill you if you just cooperate. Just like on t.v.<br>Then you can all hold hands and sing songs round the campfire.<br>I suggest cannons with non approved loads , Large cal hunting rifles w/ night viz, and automatic weapons.<br>Kill them to the last man, woman and child. Period.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gosh maybe we should just drop our pants and grease up.Maybe you wan na tickle the pirates with air guns.An evening of sinking ships , burning bodies and scoping pirates like deer sounds better.You just go right ahead and not kill them all .
Hell , make friends , invite em over for dinner.They would n't kill you if you just cooperate .
Just like on t.v.Then you can all hold hands and sing songs round the campfire.I suggest cannons with non approved loads , Large cal hunting rifles w/ night viz , and automatic weapons.Kill them to the last man , woman and child .
Period .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gosh maybe we should just drop our pants and grease up.Maybe you wanna tickle the pirates with air guns.An evening of sinking ships, burning bodies and scoping  pirates like deer sounds better.You just go right ahead and not kill them all.
Hell, make friends, invite em over for dinner.They wouldn't kill you if you just cooperate.
Just like on t.v.Then you can all hold hands and sing songs round the campfire.I suggest cannons with non approved loads , Large cal hunting rifles w/ night viz, and automatic weapons.Kill them to the last man, woman and child.
Period.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267246</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Shakrai</author>
	<datestamp>1259521860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Before you attempt to kill them, you have to be certain that they are a pirate. Legally certain, not just Slashdot certain.</p> </div><p>As a general rule of thumb, there are three things that need to happen before deadly force is justified:
</p><ul> <li>Ability: The aggressor has the ability and means to do you serious bodily harm.  This can be anything from an AK-47, to a knife, to the fists of a trained martial artist.</li><li>Opportunity: The aggressor has the opportunity to use the aforementioned ability.  The martial artist isn't a threat if he's 100 yards away.  The AK-47 isn't a threat if it's 10,000 yards away.</li><li>Jeopardy: The aggressor has demonstrated the intent to use the previous two items to do you harm.  Your hunting buddy with the slung rifle has ability and opportunity, but obviously lacks intent.</li></ul><p>Pirates approaching a boat armed with AK-47s have met all three of those variables.  They have the ability and opportunity to do the crew harm and have demonstrated an intent to do so.  Under the laws of most nations you are entitled to respond with deadly force in such a scenario.
</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Fouling their prop doesn't require quite such a high standard of proof, and gets the job done</p></div><p>Yes it does.  You can't just disable boats on the open ocean and leave their crews at the mercy of the sea and elements.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Before you attempt to kill them , you have to be certain that they are a pirate .
Legally certain , not just Slashdot certain .
As a general rule of thumb , there are three things that need to happen before deadly force is justified : Ability : The aggressor has the ability and means to do you serious bodily harm .
This can be anything from an AK-47 , to a knife , to the fists of a trained martial artist.Opportunity : The aggressor has the opportunity to use the aforementioned ability .
The martial artist is n't a threat if he 's 100 yards away .
The AK-47 is n't a threat if it 's 10,000 yards away.Jeopardy : The aggressor has demonstrated the intent to use the previous two items to do you harm .
Your hunting buddy with the slung rifle has ability and opportunity , but obviously lacks intent.Pirates approaching a boat armed with AK-47s have met all three of those variables .
They have the ability and opportunity to do the crew harm and have demonstrated an intent to do so .
Under the laws of most nations you are entitled to respond with deadly force in such a scenario .
Fouling their prop does n't require quite such a high standard of proof , and gets the job doneYes it does .
You ca n't just disable boats on the open ocean and leave their crews at the mercy of the sea and elements .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Before you attempt to kill them, you have to be certain that they are a pirate.
Legally certain, not just Slashdot certain.
As a general rule of thumb, there are three things that need to happen before deadly force is justified:
 Ability: The aggressor has the ability and means to do you serious bodily harm.
This can be anything from an AK-47, to a knife, to the fists of a trained martial artist.Opportunity: The aggressor has the opportunity to use the aforementioned ability.
The martial artist isn't a threat if he's 100 yards away.
The AK-47 isn't a threat if it's 10,000 yards away.Jeopardy: The aggressor has demonstrated the intent to use the previous two items to do you harm.
Your hunting buddy with the slung rifle has ability and opportunity, but obviously lacks intent.Pirates approaching a boat armed with AK-47s have met all three of those variables.
They have the ability and opportunity to do the crew harm and have demonstrated an intent to do so.
Under the laws of most nations you are entitled to respond with deadly force in such a scenario.
Fouling their prop doesn't require quite such a high standard of proof, and gets the job doneYes it does.
You can't just disable boats on the open ocean and leave their crews at the mercy of the sea and elements.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268222</id>
	<title>Airgun firing golf ball, reminds me of Mythbusters</title>
	<author>francium de neobie</author>
	<datestamp>1259577120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They have an episode about firing "alternative" ammo from a cannon.
<br> <br>
<a href="http://mythbustersresults.com/episode92" title="mythbustersresults.com">http://mythbustersresults.com/episode92</a> [mythbustersresults.com]
<br> <br>
If someone modded the air cannon to fire heavy chains at a high enough pressure, it can be very lethal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They have an episode about firing " alternative " ammo from a cannon .
http : //mythbustersresults.com/episode92 [ mythbustersresults.com ] If someone modded the air cannon to fire heavy chains at a high enough pressure , it can be very lethal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They have an episode about firing "alternative" ammo from a cannon.
http://mythbustersresults.com/episode92 [mythbustersresults.com]
 
If someone modded the air cannon to fire heavy chains at a high enough pressure, it can be very lethal.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30279648</id>
	<title>Re:Lunacy!!!</title>
	<author>blindseer</author>
	<datestamp>1259605380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's not quite that simple. Putting bigger guns on the ships will only mean the pirates use bigger guns, too. They don't have many other choices. What other job opportunities are there for them?</p></div><p>So we should just bend over and take it?  I don't think anyone likes that solution.  Except the pirates of course.</p><p>I suppose if commercial shipping starts putting 25mm cannons on the deck the pirates then show up with 5 inch cannons?  And if the commercial shippers start using 8 inch cannons to beat their firepower the pirates will just pull an Iowa class battleship out of a hat?</p><p>The pirates are getting these weapons from shipping companies (and their insurance companies) paying the ransom to buy the weapons from someone willing to give them business.  It's easy to sneak a few machine guns and shoulder fired rockets on ships and across borders but not so easy to transport artillery.  If they had the resources to build that stuff themselves then perhaps using that ability to build something worthy of sale to foreign markets might be a safer and more profitable venture than using it to steal from others.</p><p>What else are they to do besides piracy you ask?  That is what my brother calls an "NMP".  It's <b>N</b>ot <b>M</b>y <b>P</b>roblem.  They did something before piracy, I suggest they return to it.  Perhaps they could build a few schools with all that energy they have to climb onto ships they shouldn't be boarding.  They could form a viable government while they are at it.</p><p>Consider the armed shipping vessels killing a few pirates a "teachable moment" to the pirates that survive.</p></div>
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<tokenext>It 's not quite that simple .
Putting bigger guns on the ships will only mean the pirates use bigger guns , too .
They do n't have many other choices .
What other job opportunities are there for them ? So we should just bend over and take it ?
I do n't think anyone likes that solution .
Except the pirates of course.I suppose if commercial shipping starts putting 25mm cannons on the deck the pirates then show up with 5 inch cannons ?
And if the commercial shippers start using 8 inch cannons to beat their firepower the pirates will just pull an Iowa class battleship out of a hat ? The pirates are getting these weapons from shipping companies ( and their insurance companies ) paying the ransom to buy the weapons from someone willing to give them business .
It 's easy to sneak a few machine guns and shoulder fired rockets on ships and across borders but not so easy to transport artillery .
If they had the resources to build that stuff themselves then perhaps using that ability to build something worthy of sale to foreign markets might be a safer and more profitable venture than using it to steal from others.What else are they to do besides piracy you ask ?
That is what my brother calls an " NMP " .
It 's Not My Problem .
They did something before piracy , I suggest they return to it .
Perhaps they could build a few schools with all that energy they have to climb onto ships they should n't be boarding .
They could form a viable government while they are at it.Consider the armed shipping vessels killing a few pirates a " teachable moment " to the pirates that survive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not quite that simple.
Putting bigger guns on the ships will only mean the pirates use bigger guns, too.
They don't have many other choices.
What other job opportunities are there for them?So we should just bend over and take it?
I don't think anyone likes that solution.
Except the pirates of course.I suppose if commercial shipping starts putting 25mm cannons on the deck the pirates then show up with 5 inch cannons?
And if the commercial shippers start using 8 inch cannons to beat their firepower the pirates will just pull an Iowa class battleship out of a hat?The pirates are getting these weapons from shipping companies (and their insurance companies) paying the ransom to buy the weapons from someone willing to give them business.
It's easy to sneak a few machine guns and shoulder fired rockets on ships and across borders but not so easy to transport artillery.
If they had the resources to build that stuff themselves then perhaps using that ability to build something worthy of sale to foreign markets might be a safer and more profitable venture than using it to steal from others.What else are they to do besides piracy you ask?
That is what my brother calls an "NMP".
It's Not My Problem.
They did something before piracy, I suggest they return to it.
Perhaps they could build a few schools with all that energy they have to climb onto ships they shouldn't be boarding.
They could form a viable government while they are at it.Consider the armed shipping vessels killing a few pirates a "teachable moment" to the pirates that survive.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266620</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>nedlohs</author>
	<datestamp>1259516400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, but most countries aren't going to let your ship in their waters let alone to dock in their ports if it is loaded out with machine guns and torpedoes.</p><p>And shooting fisherman whom you mistake for pirates in generally frowned upon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , but most countries are n't going to let your ship in their waters let alone to dock in their ports if it is loaded out with machine guns and torpedoes.And shooting fisherman whom you mistake for pirates in generally frowned upon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, but most countries aren't going to let your ship in their waters let alone to dock in their ports if it is loaded out with machine guns and torpedoes.And shooting fisherman whom you mistake for pirates in generally frowned upon.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267098</id>
	<title>Re:Why are we playing games with these thugs?</title>
	<author>XorNand</author>
	<datestamp>1259520420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The US Navy released an RFI for a feasibility study of creating a virtual wargames platform.  The intention is that some contractor will build an Internet-based RTS game to train people on piracy fighting strategies.  Anyhow... in the RFI they mention a major reason that shippers don't hire security for each of their ships is that it puts them at an economic disadvantage.<br> <br>Ocean freight companies are *really* hurting financially since the US isn't buying many widgets from China these days. If they hired a small security detail for each ship, they'd have to charge their customers more per shipment.  However, the customer would just switch to a cheaper carrier.  So it's better business sense for them to risk the occasional pirate attack (which is a very minor portion of the overall shipping traffic).</htmltext>
<tokenext>The US Navy released an RFI for a feasibility study of creating a virtual wargames platform .
The intention is that some contractor will build an Internet-based RTS game to train people on piracy fighting strategies .
Anyhow... in the RFI they mention a major reason that shippers do n't hire security for each of their ships is that it puts them at an economic disadvantage .
Ocean freight companies are * really * hurting financially since the US is n't buying many widgets from China these days .
If they hired a small security detail for each ship , they 'd have to charge their customers more per shipment .
However , the customer would just switch to a cheaper carrier .
So it 's better business sense for them to risk the occasional pirate attack ( which is a very minor portion of the overall shipping traffic ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The US Navy released an RFI for a feasibility study of creating a virtual wargames platform.
The intention is that some contractor will build an Internet-based RTS game to train people on piracy fighting strategies.
Anyhow... in the RFI they mention a major reason that shippers don't hire security for each of their ships is that it puts them at an economic disadvantage.
Ocean freight companies are *really* hurting financially since the US isn't buying many widgets from China these days.
If they hired a small security detail for each ship, they'd have to charge their customers more per shipment.
However, the customer would just switch to a cheaper carrier.
So it's better business sense for them to risk the occasional pirate attack (which is a very minor portion of the overall shipping traffic).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266782</id>
	<title>More 'nets!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259517780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought it was pretty clear that the best way to deal with pirates is with lawsuits and DMCA notices. I don't see how throwing more interwebs at them is going to help.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought it was pretty clear that the best way to deal with pirates is with lawsuits and DMCA notices .
I do n't see how throwing more interwebs at them is going to help .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought it was pretty clear that the best way to deal with pirates is with lawsuits and DMCA notices.
I don't see how throwing more interwebs at them is going to help.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266998</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>bertoelcon</author>
	<datestamp>1259519580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think the mod saw the "shoot pirates" and thought "file sharers must die."

I mean the if they had air cannons mandatory to be installed in your computer that would put you in a net on an illegal transfer you would be pissed too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the mod saw the " shoot pirates " and thought " file sharers must die .
" I mean the if they had air cannons mandatory to be installed in your computer that would put you in a net on an illegal transfer you would be pissed too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the mod saw the "shoot pirates" and thought "file sharers must die.
"

I mean the if they had air cannons mandatory to be installed in your computer that would put you in a net on an illegal transfer you would be pissed too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269080</id>
	<title>armed commercial fishing vessels</title>
	<author>Nidi62</author>
	<datestamp>1259590020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Many commercial fishing vessels already carry weapons (usually Ruger Mini-14s) to deal with sharks they may happen to catch.  With a good sight and some practice, anyone can become a decent shot with a rifle.  All these ships need to do is train some of their crew, and lock up a couple Mini-14s (hell, even a couple semiauto M-14s, they only run about $1200-1500, easily affordable).  They get attacked by pirates, break em out, and start shooting.  These pirates come from a country where people routinely starve to death or get killed in their constant warfare.  They have nothing to lose, so nothing short of taking everything from them-their lives included-will make them stop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Many commercial fishing vessels already carry weapons ( usually Ruger Mini-14s ) to deal with sharks they may happen to catch .
With a good sight and some practice , anyone can become a decent shot with a rifle .
All these ships need to do is train some of their crew , and lock up a couple Mini-14s ( hell , even a couple semiauto M-14s , they only run about $ 1200-1500 , easily affordable ) .
They get attacked by pirates , break em out , and start shooting .
These pirates come from a country where people routinely starve to death or get killed in their constant warfare .
They have nothing to lose , so nothing short of taking everything from them-their lives included-will make them stop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many commercial fishing vessels already carry weapons (usually Ruger Mini-14s) to deal with sharks they may happen to catch.
With a good sight and some practice, anyone can become a decent shot with a rifle.
All these ships need to do is train some of their crew, and lock up a couple Mini-14s (hell, even a couple semiauto M-14s, they only run about $1200-1500, easily affordable).
They get attacked by pirates, break em out, and start shooting.
These pirates come from a country where people routinely starve to death or get killed in their constant warfare.
They have nothing to lose, so nothing short of taking everything from them-their lives included-will make them stop.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267442</id>
	<title>Re:And what happens..</title>
	<author>ravenshrike</author>
	<datestamp>1259523900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm almost certain that they already do, at least if you're talking non-west coast ports.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm almost certain that they already do , at least if you 're talking non-west coast ports .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm almost certain that they already do, at least if you're talking non-west coast ports.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266812</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30269944</id>
	<title>Re:Stink filled Paint balls</title>
	<author>kaini</author>
	<datestamp>1259596680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I saw a show on Discovery where anti-whaling activists did exactly this. They basically had a cannon that shot buckets of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butyric\_acid" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">butryic acid</a> [wikipedia.org] onto the deck of the whaling ship. Butyric acid smells almost exactly like vomit, and the smell sticks<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I saw a show on Discovery where anti-whaling activists did exactly this .
They basically had a cannon that shot buckets of butryic acid [ wikipedia.org ] onto the deck of the whaling ship .
Butyric acid smells almost exactly like vomit , and the smell sticks : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I saw a show on Discovery where anti-whaling activists did exactly this.
They basically had a cannon that shot buckets of butryic acid [wikipedia.org] onto the deck of the whaling ship.
Butyric acid smells almost exactly like vomit, and the smell sticks :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267016</id>
	<title>Re:Why not real guns?</title>
	<author>mdmkolbe</author>
	<datestamp>1259519760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except that if you shoot innocent people with an air cannon, they might shoot back with guns in self defense.  (Especially if they mistake your air cannon for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... well<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... a cannon.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except that if you shoot innocent people with an air cannon , they might shoot back with guns in self defense .
( Especially if they mistake your air cannon for ... well ... a cannon .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except that if you shoot innocent people with an air cannon, they might shoot back with guns in self defense.
(Especially if they mistake your air cannon for ... well ... a cannon.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268568</id>
	<title>What happens to the wire that misses?</title>
	<author>Talla</author>
	<datestamp>1259582640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will it just float around until another (innocent) boat gets entangled in it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will it just float around until another ( innocent ) boat gets entangled in it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will it just float around until another (innocent) boat gets entangled in it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267026</id>
	<title>Re:Why are we playing games with these thugs?</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1259519820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
You know... one crowbar, or one person with the right tools can defeat a key lock..
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know... one crowbar , or one person with the right tools can defeat a key lock. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
You know... one crowbar, or one person with the right tools can defeat a key lock..
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30267690</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Revenger75</author>
	<datestamp>1259613720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe they just REALLY want to borrow a cup of sugar...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe they just REALLY want to borrow a cup of sugar.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe they just REALLY want to borrow a cup of sugar...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266678</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30282676</id>
	<title>C'mon guys...</title>
	<author>CyberdogOSX</author>
	<datestamp>1259680320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>...As we all know, there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature. So if you want to stop pirates, increase Global Warming! Go outside right now and run your SUV full throttle in support of Somalian cargo ships!


<a href="http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/" title="venganza.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/</a> [venganza.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>...As we all know , there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature .
So if you want to stop pirates , increase Global Warming !
Go outside right now and run your SUV full throttle in support of Somalian cargo ships !
http : //www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/ [ venganza.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...As we all know, there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature.
So if you want to stop pirates, increase Global Warming!
Go outside right now and run your SUV full throttle in support of Somalian cargo ships!
http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/ [venganza.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266792</id>
	<title>Re:Pro-tip: Shoot them dead.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259517900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Someone with mod points like pirates...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone with mod points like pirates.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone with mod points like pirates...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266526</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30266474</id>
	<title>And what happens..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259515320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>when the pirates use this on ships themselves?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>when the pirates use this on ships themselves ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when the pirates use this on ships themselves?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268990</id>
	<title>Re:Golf balls? Ropes? Parachutes?!Christmas sale,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/</a> [coolforsale.com]  Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello, In order to meet Christmas, Site launched Christmas spree, welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises, look forward to your arrival. Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services". Your satisfaction is our main pursue. You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs. Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products . Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing! Welcome to come next time ! Thank you! <a href="http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76" title="coolforsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76</a> [coolforsale.com]   (Tracksuit w) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket, Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33 Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35 Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping Thanks!!! Advance wish you a merry Christmas.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.coolforsale.com/ [ coolforsale.com ] Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello , In order to meet Christmas , Site launched Christmas spree , welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises , look forward to your arrival .
Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is " Best quality , Best reputation , Best services " .
Your satisfaction is our main pursue .
You can find the best products from us , meeting your different needs .
Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but do n't miss it.Select your favorite clothing !
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you !
http : //www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp ? id = s76 [ coolforsale.com ] ( Tracksuit w ) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket , Air jordan ( 1-24 ) shoes $ 33 Nike shox ( R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3 ) $ 35 Handbags ( Coach lv fendi d&amp;g ) $ 35 Tshirts ( Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste ) $ 16 free shipping Thanks ! ! !
Advance wish you a merry Christmas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.coolforsale.com/ [coolforsale.com]  Dear ladies and gentlemen Hello, In order to meet Christmas, Site launched Christmas spree, welcome new and old customers come to participate in the there are unexpected surprises, look forward to your arrival.
Only this site have this treatmentOur goal is "Best quality, Best reputation , Best services".
Your satisfaction is our main pursue.
You can find the best products from us, meeting your different needs.
Ladies and Gentlemen weicome to my coolforsale.com.Here,there are the most fashion products .
Pass by but don't miss it.Select your favorite clothing!
Welcome to come next time !
Thank you!
http://www.coolforsale.com/productlist.asp?id=s76 [coolforsale.com]   (Tracksuit w) ugg boot,POLO hoody,Jacket, Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33 Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35 Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&amp;g) $35 Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16 free shipping Thanks!!!
Advance wish you a merry Christmas.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_30_0225234.30268588</id>
	<title>Q Ships</title>
	<author>inhuman\_4</author>
	<datestamp>1259582880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about we bring back the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q-ship" title="wikipedia.org"> Q Ships ?</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Just have a few navy ships dressed up like cargo ships. When the pirates get close enough for positive identification, the navy personal blow their asses out of the water. It was pretty effective against u-boats.</p><p>The Q ships would be cheap, and could be reused so long as the pirates did not get away, dead men tell no tales.</p><p>An pirate with an RPG woundn't stand much of a chance against a navy person with a TOW launcher. Also because these are navy ships, when it comes time to port, they can just ID themselves as such, and remove the camo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about we bring back the Q Ships ?
[ wikipedia.org ] Just have a few navy ships dressed up like cargo ships .
When the pirates get close enough for positive identification , the navy personal blow their asses out of the water .
It was pretty effective against u-boats.The Q ships would be cheap , and could be reused so long as the pirates did not get away , dead men tell no tales.An pirate with an RPG wound n't stand much of a chance against a navy person with a TOW launcher .
Also because these are navy ships , when it comes time to port , they can just ID themselves as such , and remove the camo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about we bring back the  Q Ships ?
[wikipedia.org]Just have a few navy ships dressed up like cargo ships.
When the pirates get close enough for positive identification, the navy personal blow their asses out of the water.
It was pretty effective against u-boats.The Q ships would be cheap, and could be reused so long as the pirates did not get away, dead men tell no tales.An pirate with an RPG woundn't stand much of a chance against a navy person with a TOW launcher.
Also because these are navy ships, when it comes time to port, they can just ID themselves as such, and remove the camo.</sentencetext>
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