<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_24_1517229</id>
	<title>Would You Use a Free Netbook From Google?</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1259076780000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Glyn Moody writes <i>"The response to Google's <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/releasing-chromium-os-open-source.html">Chromium OS</a>  <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/was\_chrome\_os\_a\_disappointment.php?utm\_source=feedburner&amp;utm\_medium=feed&amp;utm\_campaign=Feed\%3A+readwriteweb+(ReadWriteWeb)&amp;utm\_content=Google+Reader">has been rather lukewarm</a>.  But suppose it's just part of something much bigger: a <a href="http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/would-you-accept-googles-free-netbook">netbook computer from Google that would cost absolutely nothing</a>.  Because all the apps and data are stored in the cloud, storage requirements would be minimal; screens are getting cheaper, and the emphasis on lean code means that a low-cost processor could be used.  Those relatively small hardware costs could then be covered by advertising <em>in the apps</em> &mdash; after all, they are just Web pages.  Interestingly, Google has not only <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/ads-in-new-places.html"> rolled out advertising to more of its services</a> recently, it has also started running  <a href="http://www.labnol.org/software/google-adsense-in-desktop-applications/11259">AdSense ads in the desktop application Google Earth</a>.  Would you accept a free Google netbook &mdash; or is the price you would pay in terms of the company knowing even more about what you do on an hour-by-hour basis just too high?"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Glyn Moody writes " The response to Google 's Chromium OS has been rather lukewarm .
But suppose it 's just part of something much bigger : a netbook computer from Google that would cost absolutely nothing .
Because all the apps and data are stored in the cloud , storage requirements would be minimal ; screens are getting cheaper , and the emphasis on lean code means that a low-cost processor could be used .
Those relatively small hardware costs could then be covered by advertising in the apps    after all , they are just Web pages .
Interestingly , Google has not only rolled out advertising to more of its services recently , it has also started running AdSense ads in the desktop application Google Earth .
Would you accept a free Google netbook    or is the price you would pay in terms of the company knowing even more about what you do on an hour-by-hour basis just too high ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Glyn Moody writes "The response to Google's Chromium OS  has been rather lukewarm.
But suppose it's just part of something much bigger: a netbook computer from Google that would cost absolutely nothing.
Because all the apps and data are stored in the cloud, storage requirements would be minimal; screens are getting cheaper, and the emphasis on lean code means that a low-cost processor could be used.
Those relatively small hardware costs could then be covered by advertising in the apps — after all, they are just Web pages.
Interestingly, Google has not only  rolled out advertising to more of its services recently, it has also started running  AdSense ads in the desktop application Google Earth.
Would you accept a free Google netbook — or is the price you would pay in terms of the company knowing even more about what you do on an hour-by-hour basis just too high?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216302</id>
	<title>Re:Duhhh</title>
	<author>misexistentialist</author>
	<datestamp>1259089200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Free after rebate. Limit one per address.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Free after rebate .
Limit one per address .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Free after rebate.
Limit one per address.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30217024</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>trenton</author>
	<datestamp>1259092500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just like there will never be a $20 calculator, $20 digital watch, $20 hand-held laser, or $20 digital camera.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just like there will never be a $ 20 calculator , $ 20 digital watch , $ 20 hand-held laser , or $ 20 digital camera .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just like there will never be a $20 calculator, $20 digital watch, $20 hand-held laser, or $20 digital camera.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30223260</id>
	<title>Re:A free \_netbook\_?</title>
	<author>khope</author>
	<datestamp>1259090460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"If it had a cell modem in it, so much the better."</p><p>My vision would be one that incorporates wired and cell connections and functions as an element in a wi-fi mesh. Now the user has strong reasons to want this device because one gets connectivity in all the likely ways. And sharing the connectivity provides a reason to leave it on 24/7 when it's in a fixed location.</p><p>If the cell modem requires a paid service, one should be able to turn it off to control ones costs.</p><p>If this device could eliminate the cost of an ISP, it's value rises to the cost of an ISP. My ISP and Vonage cost $76/month. I'll happily pay a fraction of that to Google if I can dump the ISP, get connectivity everywhere, and use a VOIP phone (say magicjack). Throw in GPS and maps and they can have it all.</p><p>What's it worth to Google to have their own network?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" If it had a cell modem in it , so much the better .
" My vision would be one that incorporates wired and cell connections and functions as an element in a wi-fi mesh .
Now the user has strong reasons to want this device because one gets connectivity in all the likely ways .
And sharing the connectivity provides a reason to leave it on 24/7 when it 's in a fixed location.If the cell modem requires a paid service , one should be able to turn it off to control ones costs.If this device could eliminate the cost of an ISP , it 's value rises to the cost of an ISP .
My ISP and Vonage cost $ 76/month .
I 'll happily pay a fraction of that to Google if I can dump the ISP , get connectivity everywhere , and use a VOIP phone ( say magicjack ) .
Throw in GPS and maps and they can have it all.What 's it worth to Google to have their own network ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"If it had a cell modem in it, so much the better.
"My vision would be one that incorporates wired and cell connections and functions as an element in a wi-fi mesh.
Now the user has strong reasons to want this device because one gets connectivity in all the likely ways.
And sharing the connectivity provides a reason to leave it on 24/7 when it's in a fixed location.If the cell modem requires a paid service, one should be able to turn it off to control ones costs.If this device could eliminate the cost of an ISP, it's value rises to the cost of an ISP.
My ISP and Vonage cost $76/month.
I'll happily pay a fraction of that to Google if I can dump the ISP, get connectivity everywhere, and use a VOIP phone (say magicjack).
Throw in GPS and maps and they can have it all.What's it worth to Google to have their own network?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30220010</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting Historical Perspective</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259063340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The up side of this would be that governments could buy this movement data too and create public transport systems that get me where I want, when I want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The up side of this would be that governments could buy this movement data too and create public transport systems that get me where I want , when I want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The up side of this would be that governments could buy this movement data too and create public transport systems that get me where I want, when I want.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214648</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214824</id>
	<title>Re:No I won't</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1259082960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do LaTeX, a compiler, and scientific visualization tools (R?) need to be run locally?  I never had a problem running everything in an SSH (-X as needed) session. Yes there's an issue if you can't connect to the network, but if Google can work things out with cell providers and airlines (and I don't see why they couldn't) there would be very few dead zones.</p><p>As for free-as-in-speech software, aren't Android and Chrome OS both open source?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do LaTeX , a compiler , and scientific visualization tools ( R ?
) need to be run locally ?
I never had a problem running everything in an SSH ( -X as needed ) session .
Yes there 's an issue if you ca n't connect to the network , but if Google can work things out with cell providers and airlines ( and I do n't see why they could n't ) there would be very few dead zones.As for free-as-in-speech software , are n't Android and Chrome OS both open source ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do LaTeX, a compiler, and scientific visualization tools (R?
) need to be run locally?
I never had a problem running everything in an SSH (-X as needed) session.
Yes there's an issue if you can't connect to the network, but if Google can work things out with cell providers and airlines (and I don't see why they couldn't) there would be very few dead zones.As for free-as-in-speech software, aren't Android and Chrome OS both open source?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214262</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215014</id>
	<title>Re:from an ignoramus on all things Chrome OS</title>
	<author>brkello</author>
	<datestamp>1259083500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Chrome OS is basically just a web browser.  It is an OS that only runs web apps.  It doesn't really have any storage so it has to get it from Google.  So it basically allows Google have an OS run on really cheap hardware.  It is a bit like a thin client.  This way more people have access to the Internet and google has better access to advertise to these people.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Chrome OS is basically just a web browser .
It is an OS that only runs web apps .
It does n't really have any storage so it has to get it from Google .
So it basically allows Google have an OS run on really cheap hardware .
It is a bit like a thin client .
This way more people have access to the Internet and google has better access to advertise to these people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Chrome OS is basically just a web browser.
It is an OS that only runs web apps.
It doesn't really have any storage so it has to get it from Google.
So it basically allows Google have an OS run on really cheap hardware.
It is a bit like a thin client.
This way more people have access to the Internet and google has better access to advertise to these people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214488</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216550</id>
	<title>back to the future</title>
	<author>viralMeme</author>
	<datestamp>1259090340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>'<i>I have a critical meeting with Intel a week from Wednesday. I want to convince them that they need to <a href="http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/122106/PLEX0\_3876.pdf" title="slated.org">stay away from Oracle NCs</a> [slated.org] and work more closely with Microsoft</i>', Oct 1997<br> <br>

'<i>They did 2 things that amaze me: a) They kept <a href="http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02799.pdf" title="slated.org">the NC specification</a> [slated.org] around despite saying they would not. b) They snuck in a server specification. There is some failure in communication</i>', Nov 1997</htmltext>
<tokenext>'I have a critical meeting with Intel a week from Wednesday .
I want to convince them that they need to stay away from Oracle NCs [ slated.org ] and work more closely with Microsoft ' , Oct 1997 'They did 2 things that amaze me : a ) They kept the NC specification [ slated.org ] around despite saying they would not .
b ) They snuck in a server specification .
There is some failure in communication ' , Nov 1997</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'I have a critical meeting with Intel a week from Wednesday.
I want to convince them that they need to stay away from Oracle NCs [slated.org] and work more closely with Microsoft', Oct 1997 

'They did 2 things that amaze me: a) They kept the NC specification [slated.org] around despite saying they would not.
b) They snuck in a server specification.
There is some failure in communication', Nov 1997</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215798</id>
	<title>freedom depends on who owns the cloud servers</title>
	<author>xzvf</author>
	<datestamp>1259086800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the big scheme of things, the freedom of the client is insignificant to the freedom of the cloud.  This client, while optimized for Google, will be just as capable of attaching to a private, fully controlled cloud.  You could setup a home server with email, office suite, etc.... and remain totally free, or you can connect to services from Google and other providers and give up some of that freedom.  The providers will be cheaper, but you will give up significant freedom and control of your own data.  An interesting option is bringing up all the services you want on EC2 (Amazon) servers, and point your clients to that.  Of course you can use any hosting company for similar results.

There is an advantage in cost savings for many companies if you can eliminate, or minimize desktop support.  A $1K laptop costs over $6K+ in support over its lifetime.  If that can be replaced by a $200 a year disposable appliance with a server back end, the PC replacement and upgrade cycle can be broken saving companies tons of money.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the big scheme of things , the freedom of the client is insignificant to the freedom of the cloud .
This client , while optimized for Google , will be just as capable of attaching to a private , fully controlled cloud .
You could setup a home server with email , office suite , etc.... and remain totally free , or you can connect to services from Google and other providers and give up some of that freedom .
The providers will be cheaper , but you will give up significant freedom and control of your own data .
An interesting option is bringing up all the services you want on EC2 ( Amazon ) servers , and point your clients to that .
Of course you can use any hosting company for similar results .
There is an advantage in cost savings for many companies if you can eliminate , or minimize desktop support .
A $ 1K laptop costs over $ 6K + in support over its lifetime .
If that can be replaced by a $ 200 a year disposable appliance with a server back end , the PC replacement and upgrade cycle can be broken saving companies tons of money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the big scheme of things, the freedom of the client is insignificant to the freedom of the cloud.
This client, while optimized for Google, will be just as capable of attaching to a private, fully controlled cloud.
You could setup a home server with email, office suite, etc.... and remain totally free, or you can connect to services from Google and other providers and give up some of that freedom.
The providers will be cheaper, but you will give up significant freedom and control of your own data.
An interesting option is bringing up all the services you want on EC2 (Amazon) servers, and point your clients to that.
Of course you can use any hosting company for similar results.
There is an advantage in cost savings for many companies if you can eliminate, or minimize desktop support.
A $1K laptop costs over $6K+ in support over its lifetime.
If that can be replaced by a $200 a year disposable appliance with a server back end, the PC replacement and upgrade cycle can be broken saving companies tons of money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30222382</id>
	<title>Re:Duhhh</title>
	<author>KermitJunior</author>
	<datestamp>1259079360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Hardware can't be given away." Oh really? Let me introduce you to a new invention. Call the Cell Phone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Hardware ca n't be given away .
" Oh really ?
Let me introduce you to a new invention .
Call the Cell Phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Hardware can't be given away.
" Oh really?
Let me introduce you to a new invention.
Call the Cell Phone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30224788</id>
	<title>I would if:</title>
	<author>johnkzin</author>
	<datestamp>1257167640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) convertible tablet netbook, 10.1" screen, pref. multi-touch, with the ability to do automated screen rotations based on the hinge orientation and accelerometers.  At least 1024x600, pref. 1280x720.  And, preferably a PixelQi hybrid display.<br>2) Dalvik apps, with the "with Google" Android experience (Android Market, Android Gmail, Android Calendar, etc.)<br>3) 1GB+ RAM, internal storage options (local media, caching data even if the rest will be stored in the cloud, etc.).  2-32GB options are good.  And add full size SDHC card slot for more storage.  They can omit the internal storage if they put in two full size SDHC card slots.<br>4) 2 or more USB host/otg ports, support for Keyboards, mice/trackpad/trackball, storage, USB-VGA/USB-DVI/USB-HDMI adapters, printers, etc.<br>5) If no USB-VGA/DVI/HDMI support, then a DVI-I port (if no DVI-I port, then there has to be at least 3 USB host/otg ports)<br>6) GPS with Google Maps turn-by-turn navigation (easy if it has #2)<br>7) Internal 3G module, either optional modules for the carrier of my choice (I pay) or an included module with the carrier of Google's choice (Google pays)<br>8) At least Wifi b and g, possibly n<br>9) If no Dalvik apps, ssh app with port forwarding<br>10) If no Dalvik apps, VNC app that will work through #10's port forwarding, and has VNC password support<br>11) I think I heard Chrome already has these, but just to be sure: local media player for local audio files, local video files, e-book reader apps<br>12) Google Gears for working with Google Docs and other things when in a 3G dead zone<br>13) Full support for Flash in the browser<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... full support for sites like Hulu, Rhapsody, Pandora, Youtube, etc.<br>14) Netflix streaming player support<br>15) Google Apps sites that are BOTH mobile AND full-featured (ex: all non-Mobile Gmail features, but in a finger friendly presentation; all non-Mobile Google Reader features (add/edit tags, etc.), but in a finger-friendly presentation; etc.)<br>16) Charge and sync (like a phone) via USB-client (so I can use/access the data on the SDHC cards (and/or optional internal user storage) via my desktop system, while the device recharges).<br>17) Something like Privoxy to block ads and bad HTML on \_NON\_-Google ad sites.  I understand that the trade here is that I have to see Google Adsense stuff.  But I don't want to have to put up with ads/pop-ups/etc. from \_anyone\_ else.<br>18) LOTS of battery.  Probably be most effective to use an ARM CPU (TI OMAP 3? OMAP 4?)<br>19) Free hardware upgrades as new versions come out.  12-36 month cycles (obv. I'd prefer 12 months, but I can understand if they need 36 months).<br>20) Since Google Apps have the option to avoid ads by paying for the service, I'd want that same option with the device.  If I pay a monthly or yearly subscription, then the subscription includes: the 3G service (assuming it's the "google pays for it" option from above), no ads (not even from Google's services), and the hardware upgrade cycle.</p><p>Give me all of that, and yeah, I'd take a free device and not do anything to block the ads.  Not sure whether or not I'd pay for the subscription option or not, but I definitely think the subscription option needs to exist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) convertible tablet netbook , 10.1 " screen , pref .
multi-touch , with the ability to do automated screen rotations based on the hinge orientation and accelerometers .
At least 1024x600 , pref .
1280x720. And , preferably a PixelQi hybrid display.2 ) Dalvik apps , with the " with Google " Android experience ( Android Market , Android Gmail , Android Calendar , etc .
) 3 ) 1GB + RAM , internal storage options ( local media , caching data even if the rest will be stored in the cloud , etc. ) .
2-32GB options are good .
And add full size SDHC card slot for more storage .
They can omit the internal storage if they put in two full size SDHC card slots.4 ) 2 or more USB host/otg ports , support for Keyboards , mice/trackpad/trackball , storage , USB-VGA/USB-DVI/USB-HDMI adapters , printers , etc.5 ) If no USB-VGA/DVI/HDMI support , then a DVI-I port ( if no DVI-I port , then there has to be at least 3 USB host/otg ports ) 6 ) GPS with Google Maps turn-by-turn navigation ( easy if it has # 2 ) 7 ) Internal 3G module , either optional modules for the carrier of my choice ( I pay ) or an included module with the carrier of Google 's choice ( Google pays ) 8 ) At least Wifi b and g , possibly n9 ) If no Dalvik apps , ssh app with port forwarding10 ) If no Dalvik apps , VNC app that will work through # 10 's port forwarding , and has VNC password support11 ) I think I heard Chrome already has these , but just to be sure : local media player for local audio files , local video files , e-book reader apps12 ) Google Gears for working with Google Docs and other things when in a 3G dead zone13 ) Full support for Flash in the browser ... full support for sites like Hulu , Rhapsody , Pandora , Youtube , etc.14 ) Netflix streaming player support15 ) Google Apps sites that are BOTH mobile AND full-featured ( ex : all non-Mobile Gmail features , but in a finger friendly presentation ; all non-Mobile Google Reader features ( add/edit tags , etc .
) , but in a finger-friendly presentation ; etc .
) 16 ) Charge and sync ( like a phone ) via USB-client ( so I can use/access the data on the SDHC cards ( and/or optional internal user storage ) via my desktop system , while the device recharges ) .17 ) Something like Privoxy to block ads and bad HTML on \ _NON \ _-Google ad sites .
I understand that the trade here is that I have to see Google Adsense stuff .
But I do n't want to have to put up with ads/pop-ups/etc .
from \ _anyone \ _ else.18 ) LOTS of battery .
Probably be most effective to use an ARM CPU ( TI OMAP 3 ?
OMAP 4 ?
) 19 ) Free hardware upgrades as new versions come out .
12-36 month cycles ( obv .
I 'd prefer 12 months , but I can understand if they need 36 months ) .20 ) Since Google Apps have the option to avoid ads by paying for the service , I 'd want that same option with the device .
If I pay a monthly or yearly subscription , then the subscription includes : the 3G service ( assuming it 's the " google pays for it " option from above ) , no ads ( not even from Google 's services ) , and the hardware upgrade cycle.Give me all of that , and yeah , I 'd take a free device and not do anything to block the ads .
Not sure whether or not I 'd pay for the subscription option or not , but I definitely think the subscription option needs to exist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) convertible tablet netbook, 10.1" screen, pref.
multi-touch, with the ability to do automated screen rotations based on the hinge orientation and accelerometers.
At least 1024x600, pref.
1280x720.  And, preferably a PixelQi hybrid display.2) Dalvik apps, with the "with Google" Android experience (Android Market, Android Gmail, Android Calendar, etc.
)3) 1GB+ RAM, internal storage options (local media, caching data even if the rest will be stored in the cloud, etc.).
2-32GB options are good.
And add full size SDHC card slot for more storage.
They can omit the internal storage if they put in two full size SDHC card slots.4) 2 or more USB host/otg ports, support for Keyboards, mice/trackpad/trackball, storage, USB-VGA/USB-DVI/USB-HDMI adapters, printers, etc.5) If no USB-VGA/DVI/HDMI support, then a DVI-I port (if no DVI-I port, then there has to be at least 3 USB host/otg ports)6) GPS with Google Maps turn-by-turn navigation (easy if it has #2)7) Internal 3G module, either optional modules for the carrier of my choice (I pay) or an included module with the carrier of Google's choice (Google pays)8) At least Wifi b and g, possibly n9) If no Dalvik apps, ssh app with port forwarding10) If no Dalvik apps, VNC app that will work through #10's port forwarding, and has VNC password support11) I think I heard Chrome already has these, but just to be sure: local media player for local audio files, local video files, e-book reader apps12) Google Gears for working with Google Docs and other things when in a 3G dead zone13) Full support for Flash in the browser ... full support for sites like Hulu, Rhapsody, Pandora, Youtube, etc.14) Netflix streaming player support15) Google Apps sites that are BOTH mobile AND full-featured (ex: all non-Mobile Gmail features, but in a finger friendly presentation; all non-Mobile Google Reader features (add/edit tags, etc.
), but in a finger-friendly presentation; etc.
)16) Charge and sync (like a phone) via USB-client (so I can use/access the data on the SDHC cards (and/or optional internal user storage) via my desktop system, while the device recharges).17) Something like Privoxy to block ads and bad HTML on \_NON\_-Google ad sites.
I understand that the trade here is that I have to see Google Adsense stuff.
But I don't want to have to put up with ads/pop-ups/etc.
from \_anyone\_ else.18) LOTS of battery.
Probably be most effective to use an ARM CPU (TI OMAP 3?
OMAP 4?
)19) Free hardware upgrades as new versions come out.
12-36 month cycles (obv.
I'd prefer 12 months, but I can understand if they need 36 months).20) Since Google Apps have the option to avoid ads by paying for the service, I'd want that same option with the device.
If I pay a monthly or yearly subscription, then the subscription includes: the 3G service (assuming it's the "google pays for it" option from above), no ads (not even from Google's services), and the hardware upgrade cycle.Give me all of that, and yeah, I'd take a free device and not do anything to block the ads.
Not sure whether or not I'd pay for the subscription option or not, but I definitely think the subscription option needs to exist.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215714</id>
	<title>Re:No I won't</title>
	<author>elashish14</author>
	<datestamp>1259086260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Much, if not all, of those can probably be solved by setting up a home server to handle all of that while you work remotely. I myself run a lot of Python scripts for scientific work and use Latex for pretty much every document/presentation I make, and I can do it just fine over ssh. Gnuplot is still pretty slow though, don't have a great solution for that on this weak Atom chip.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Much , if not all , of those can probably be solved by setting up a home server to handle all of that while you work remotely .
I myself run a lot of Python scripts for scientific work and use Latex for pretty much every document/presentation I make , and I can do it just fine over ssh .
Gnuplot is still pretty slow though , do n't have a great solution for that on this weak Atom chip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Much, if not all, of those can probably be solved by setting up a home server to handle all of that while you work remotely.
I myself run a lot of Python scripts for scientific work and use Latex for pretty much every document/presentation I make, and I can do it just fine over ssh.
Gnuplot is still pretty slow though, don't have a great solution for that on this weak Atom chip.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214730</id>
	<title>ideal for my 2 year old</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259082480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i have already started teaching my son who is 2 and a few months about computers. found a few free games like Thomas the Train that he likes. and for reading i'll open up Google and type in Dora in the search box and spell it out for him letter by letter. he already knows most of the letters of the alphabet, can count to 12 with help, knows a bunch of basic shapes and colors. time to teach him to read since most of the good NYC schools expect a child to read and write by 1st grade. at least that's what i'm told by parents with kids that old. the good schools in the NYC suburbs are the same way.</p><p>a free or ultra low cost Google netbook is perfect for this. my son likes to bang on the keyboard so if it breaks i just go get another one. nothing to break software-wise.</p><p>a few months of playing with one of these junky useless Chrome OS gizmos and he will be ready for a real computer. i'm thinking a Mac just because he can learn some UNIX on it and it's usable unlike most of the linux distro's i've tried. I do think Ubuntu sucks as a home PC</p><p>i've played with the Chrome OS vmware image floating around the internet and i don't think it has any value at all for a normal person or any kind of computer user i've ever met</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i have already started teaching my son who is 2 and a few months about computers .
found a few free games like Thomas the Train that he likes .
and for reading i 'll open up Google and type in Dora in the search box and spell it out for him letter by letter .
he already knows most of the letters of the alphabet , can count to 12 with help , knows a bunch of basic shapes and colors .
time to teach him to read since most of the good NYC schools expect a child to read and write by 1st grade .
at least that 's what i 'm told by parents with kids that old .
the good schools in the NYC suburbs are the same way.a free or ultra low cost Google netbook is perfect for this .
my son likes to bang on the keyboard so if it breaks i just go get another one .
nothing to break software-wise.a few months of playing with one of these junky useless Chrome OS gizmos and he will be ready for a real computer .
i 'm thinking a Mac just because he can learn some UNIX on it and it 's usable unlike most of the linux distro 's i 've tried .
I do think Ubuntu sucks as a home PCi 've played with the Chrome OS vmware image floating around the internet and i do n't think it has any value at all for a normal person or any kind of computer user i 've ever met</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i have already started teaching my son who is 2 and a few months about computers.
found a few free games like Thomas the Train that he likes.
and for reading i'll open up Google and type in Dora in the search box and spell it out for him letter by letter.
he already knows most of the letters of the alphabet, can count to 12 with help, knows a bunch of basic shapes and colors.
time to teach him to read since most of the good NYC schools expect a child to read and write by 1st grade.
at least that's what i'm told by parents with kids that old.
the good schools in the NYC suburbs are the same way.a free or ultra low cost Google netbook is perfect for this.
my son likes to bang on the keyboard so if it breaks i just go get another one.
nothing to break software-wise.a few months of playing with one of these junky useless Chrome OS gizmos and he will be ready for a real computer.
i'm thinking a Mac just because he can learn some UNIX on it and it's usable unlike most of the linux distro's i've tried.
I do think Ubuntu sucks as a home PCi've played with the Chrome OS vmware image floating around the internet and i don't think it has any value at all for a normal person or any kind of computer user i've ever met</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214552</id>
	<title>Of course</title>
	<author>Krneki</author>
	<datestamp>1259081640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If it is free I'd take it.<br><br>And then install a Linux distro on it + adblock plus, noscript,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it is free I 'd take it.And then install a Linux distro on it + adblock plus , noscript , ... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it is free I'd take it.And then install a Linux distro on it + adblock plus, noscript, ....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216118</id>
	<title>Re:from an ignoramus on all things Chrome OS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259088300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Here I've just gotten my head around Android, and now there's Chrome OS.  Will someone please explain, why?</p>  </div><p>Anderiod is aimed at mobile phones.  It needs to run well with very low RAM requirements.  It must work well with a single processor that is very slow compared to any PC's processor.</p><p>Chrome is aimed at the kind of hardware that PCs have today.  It spawns a new process for rendering each tab.  It has a JIT compiler for javascript.  It makes use of the resources a PC has to make web apps more useful.</p><p>Over time, expect chrome to use more resources to make web browsing faster.  Expect android to do everything possible to avoid using more resources, so that it can be used in lower cost phones.</p><p>Netbooks almost have the resources that chrome expects, and they will grow over time.  This is where chrome OS is useful.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here I 've just gotten my head around Android , and now there 's Chrome OS .
Will someone please explain , why ?
Anderiod is aimed at mobile phones .
It needs to run well with very low RAM requirements .
It must work well with a single processor that is very slow compared to any PC 's processor.Chrome is aimed at the kind of hardware that PCs have today .
It spawns a new process for rendering each tab .
It has a JIT compiler for javascript .
It makes use of the resources a PC has to make web apps more useful.Over time , expect chrome to use more resources to make web browsing faster .
Expect android to do everything possible to avoid using more resources , so that it can be used in lower cost phones.Netbooks almost have the resources that chrome expects , and they will grow over time .
This is where chrome OS is useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here I've just gotten my head around Android, and now there's Chrome OS.
Will someone please explain, why?
Anderiod is aimed at mobile phones.
It needs to run well with very low RAM requirements.
It must work well with a single processor that is very slow compared to any PC's processor.Chrome is aimed at the kind of hardware that PCs have today.
It spawns a new process for rendering each tab.
It has a JIT compiler for javascript.
It makes use of the resources a PC has to make web apps more useful.Over time, expect chrome to use more resources to make web browsing faster.
Expect android to do everything possible to avoid using more resources, so that it can be used in lower cost phones.Netbooks almost have the resources that chrome expects, and they will grow over time.
This is where chrome OS is useful.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30217056</id>
	<title>Would You Use a Free Netbook From Google?</title>
	<author>Dreadneck</author>
	<datestamp>1259092620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure, I can always use a free doorstop.</p><p> Oh, wait... you mean to do my actual day-to-day computing? Not likely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , I can always use a free doorstop .
Oh , wait... you mean to do my actual day-to-day computing ?
Not likely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, I can always use a free doorstop.
Oh, wait... you mean to do my actual day-to-day computing?
Not likely.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30217220</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>Penguinisto</author>
	<datestamp>1259093700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To be fair, the OLPC had mesh networking, a semi-rugged build, a rather unique means of power/replenishment, and was begun as a project back when notebooks would cost you an average of $800-$1000 apiece. Trying to undercut the average price by up to 90\% really took some doing.</p><p>Nowadays, Google only has to shoot for cutting the average netbook price by 50-66\%, and (unlike today's OLPC) doesn't have to shiv out for a Windows license to do it, which saves them a healthy chunk of change ($20 - $30, IIRC) right off the bat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair , the OLPC had mesh networking , a semi-rugged build , a rather unique means of power/replenishment , and was begun as a project back when notebooks would cost you an average of $ 800- $ 1000 apiece .
Trying to undercut the average price by up to 90 \ % really took some doing.Nowadays , Google only has to shoot for cutting the average netbook price by 50-66 \ % , and ( unlike today 's OLPC ) does n't have to shiv out for a Windows license to do it , which saves them a healthy chunk of change ( $ 20 - $ 30 , IIRC ) right off the bat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair, the OLPC had mesh networking, a semi-rugged build, a rather unique means of power/replenishment, and was begun as a project back when notebooks would cost you an average of $800-$1000 apiece.
Trying to undercut the average price by up to 90\% really took some doing.Nowadays, Google only has to shoot for cutting the average netbook price by 50-66\%, and (unlike today's OLPC) doesn't have to shiv out for a Windows license to do it, which saves them a healthy chunk of change ($20 - $30, IIRC) right off the bat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215884</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1259087220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Who said the netbook cost $150? I would guess that the bulk purchases and low requirements could allow them to cut that down to sub $40 within four or five years."</p><p>Why do you think there's some special economies of scale that only Google understands? Laptop makers have lots of volume and have already "cooked in" economies of scale.</p><p>Try this experiment. Itemize all the hardware required for a netbook and try to figure out a price for each item that adds up to $40. Don't forget the cost of the case and its tooling. Then what about labor and shipping?</p><p>I think you'll find that it won't add up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Who said the netbook cost $ 150 ?
I would guess that the bulk purchases and low requirements could allow them to cut that down to sub $ 40 within four or five years .
" Why do you think there 's some special economies of scale that only Google understands ?
Laptop makers have lots of volume and have already " cooked in " economies of scale.Try this experiment .
Itemize all the hardware required for a netbook and try to figure out a price for each item that adds up to $ 40 .
Do n't forget the cost of the case and its tooling .
Then what about labor and shipping ? I think you 'll find that it wo n't add up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Who said the netbook cost $150?
I would guess that the bulk purchases and low requirements could allow them to cut that down to sub $40 within four or five years.
"Why do you think there's some special economies of scale that only Google understands?
Laptop makers have lots of volume and have already "cooked in" economies of scale.Try this experiment.
Itemize all the hardware required for a netbook and try to figure out a price for each item that adds up to $40.
Don't forget the cost of the case and its tooling.
Then what about labor and shipping?I think you'll find that it won't add up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215496</id>
	<title>Re:No I won't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259085420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Freak.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Freak .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Freak.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214262</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215962</id>
	<title>Re:No I won't</title>
	<author>Jon Peterson</author>
	<datestamp>1259087520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I won't use a machine which is useless without network</i></p><p>I started out using VT320 terminals, so I'm kind of used to the idea of using lightweight hardware that's useless without a network. Worked pretty well at the time<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wo n't use a machine which is useless without networkI started out using VT320 terminals , so I 'm kind of used to the idea of using lightweight hardware that 's useless without a network .
Worked pretty well at the time ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I won't use a machine which is useless without networkI started out using VT320 terminals, so I'm kind of used to the idea of using lightweight hardware that's useless without a network.
Worked pretty well at the time ;-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215574</id>
	<title>Re:No I won't</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1259085720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I won't use a machine which is useless without network. I don't like to rely on an internet connection because some times it breaks. I want to be able to store files on my computer and use it on the plane. And I want to be able to do it off-line. I want all my tools locally, I need LaTeX to work, I need a compiler, I need scientific visualization tools.</p><p>I believe in free-as-in-speech software and I don't see how GoogleOS really fits into it.</p></div><p>I do believe you've completely missed the point.</p><p>If the device is little more than a portable web browser, what would you do with it offline?</p><p>Netbooks are not intended to run LaTeX or compilers or scientific visualization...  They're intended to surf the web, log on to Facebook, and check your email.</p><p>Fine, you need LaTeX and compilers and scientific visualization to work...  But you're on vacation, on a road trip somewhere. You've stopped at a rest stop somewhere that offers free WiFi and you're wondering if that book you ordered has shipped yet.  Do you really need offline storage, gigs of RAM, and a quad-core CPU to check your email?  Are you going to compile up a new email client there in the parking lot?  Do you routinely craft your email messages in LaTeX?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wo n't use a machine which is useless without network .
I do n't like to rely on an internet connection because some times it breaks .
I want to be able to store files on my computer and use it on the plane .
And I want to be able to do it off-line .
I want all my tools locally , I need LaTeX to work , I need a compiler , I need scientific visualization tools.I believe in free-as-in-speech software and I do n't see how GoogleOS really fits into it.I do believe you 've completely missed the point.If the device is little more than a portable web browser , what would you do with it offline ? Netbooks are not intended to run LaTeX or compilers or scientific visualization... They 're intended to surf the web , log on to Facebook , and check your email.Fine , you need LaTeX and compilers and scientific visualization to work... But you 're on vacation , on a road trip somewhere .
You 've stopped at a rest stop somewhere that offers free WiFi and you 're wondering if that book you ordered has shipped yet .
Do you really need offline storage , gigs of RAM , and a quad-core CPU to check your email ?
Are you going to compile up a new email client there in the parking lot ?
Do you routinely craft your email messages in LaTeX ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I won't use a machine which is useless without network.
I don't like to rely on an internet connection because some times it breaks.
I want to be able to store files on my computer and use it on the plane.
And I want to be able to do it off-line.
I want all my tools locally, I need LaTeX to work, I need a compiler, I need scientific visualization tools.I believe in free-as-in-speech software and I don't see how GoogleOS really fits into it.I do believe you've completely missed the point.If the device is little more than a portable web browser, what would you do with it offline?Netbooks are not intended to run LaTeX or compilers or scientific visualization...  They're intended to surf the web, log on to Facebook, and check your email.Fine, you need LaTeX and compilers and scientific visualization to work...  But you're on vacation, on a road trip somewhere.
You've stopped at a rest stop somewhere that offers free WiFi and you're wondering if that book you ordered has shipped yet.
Do you really need offline storage, gigs of RAM, and a quad-core CPU to check your email?
Are you going to compile up a new email client there in the parking lot?
Do you routinely craft your email messages in LaTeX?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215400</id>
	<title>With a single provision</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259085000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It must interface with my CueCat</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It must interface with my CueCat</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It must interface with my CueCat</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214764</id>
	<title>Would it have ssh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259082720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I could use it as a smart terminal.</p><p>I spend a lot of time SSHing to my work desktop anyway.  So, ssh, use my existing apps, ignore Google's stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I could use it as a smart terminal.I spend a lot of time SSHing to my work desktop anyway .
So , ssh , use my existing apps , ignore Google 's stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I could use it as a smart terminal.I spend a lot of time SSHing to my work desktop anyway.
So, ssh, use my existing apps, ignore Google's stuff.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30221622</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>BikeHelmet</author>
	<datestamp>1259073000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There's never going to be a $20 netbook even if your labor costs were zero.</p></div><p>Just like there's never going to be a $20 HDD? Oh wait...</p><p>With the new SoCs coming out, where a single chip can do everything... I could see a $10 chip powering a netbook with all its peripherals, years in the future.</p><p>Give it an SD card slot, affordable $30 screen, and your actual costs are under $100.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's never going to be a $ 20 netbook even if your labor costs were zero.Just like there 's never going to be a $ 20 HDD ?
Oh wait...With the new SoCs coming out , where a single chip can do everything... I could see a $ 10 chip powering a netbook with all its peripherals , years in the future.Give it an SD card slot , affordable $ 30 screen , and your actual costs are under $ 100 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's never going to be a $20 netbook even if your labor costs were zero.Just like there's never going to be a $20 HDD?
Oh wait...With the new SoCs coming out, where a single chip can do everything... I could see a $10 chip powering a netbook with all its peripherals, years in the future.Give it an SD card slot, affordable $30 screen, and your actual costs are under $100.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214706</id>
	<title>why would I accept a netbook?</title>
	<author>Tom</author>
	<datestamp>1259082360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why would I want a netbook, free or not? You have to have demand first before you think of price, and even at price 0, demand is not infinite (you've got to carry the thing home, find a place to stash it, etc. - there are costs involved in addition to the price).</p><p>So no. Even for free, I wouldn't have a use for it. The whole netbook thing is pointless anyways and will soon blow over.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would I want a netbook , free or not ?
You have to have demand first before you think of price , and even at price 0 , demand is not infinite ( you 've got to carry the thing home , find a place to stash it , etc .
- there are costs involved in addition to the price ) .So no .
Even for free , I would n't have a use for it .
The whole netbook thing is pointless anyways and will soon blow over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would I want a netbook, free or not?
You have to have demand first before you think of price, and even at price 0, demand is not infinite (you've got to carry the thing home, find a place to stash it, etc.
- there are costs involved in addition to the price).So no.
Even for free, I wouldn't have a use for it.
The whole netbook thing is pointless anyways and will soon blow over.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214490</id>
	<title>No thanks.</title>
	<author>Old97</author>
	<datestamp>1259081460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've already removed Google software from my Mac &amp; PC.  No, I don't want to tether to the Google cloud or any cloud and give up my privacy or freedom.  At what point will companies like Google be compelled to enforce government mandates and restrictions?  (Think China today.  The U.S. will start with DMCA and Europe will restrict whatever they think is "offensive" to others.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've already removed Google software from my Mac &amp; PC .
No , I do n't want to tether to the Google cloud or any cloud and give up my privacy or freedom .
At what point will companies like Google be compelled to enforce government mandates and restrictions ?
( Think China today .
The U.S. will start with DMCA and Europe will restrict whatever they think is " offensive " to others .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've already removed Google software from my Mac &amp; PC.
No, I don't want to tether to the Google cloud or any cloud and give up my privacy or freedom.
At what point will companies like Google be compelled to enforce government mandates and restrictions?
(Think China today.
The U.S. will start with DMCA and Europe will restrict whatever they think is "offensive" to others.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30219018</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>FatAlb3rt</author>
	<datestamp>1259058660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How many sub $500 laptops did you see 5 yrs ago?  Pretty much none.  Remember Gates internet lore about RAM reqmts.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How many sub $ 500 laptops did you see 5 yrs ago ?
Pretty much none .
Remember Gates internet lore about RAM reqmts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many sub $500 laptops did you see 5 yrs ago?
Pretty much none.
Remember Gates internet lore about RAM reqmts.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30218564</id>
	<title>Would You Use a Free Netbook From Google?</title>
	<author>chord.wav</author>
	<datestamp>1259056800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure, as I'm still using my CueCat</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , as I 'm still using my CueCat</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, as I'm still using my CueCat</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30217162</id>
	<title>This is not a Netbook</title>
	<author>itsdapead</author>
	<datestamp>1259093400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least, not what "netbooks" have actually become: cheap, compact, entry-level laptop PCs for people who want to run standard PC software but can live without editing HD video and have an xbox for their 100fps 3D fragging.

</p><p>The Chrome idea is actually much closer to the original "netbook" concept: something the size of a BOOK to use to access the NET. (See what they did there?)

</p><p>Now, we never got to find out how that went because ASUS made such a botch of the original EEE PC: it looked great on first sight, and they sold like hotcakes, but it was let down by the OS. Once you got past the click-and-drool "launcher" no effort had been made to adapt the usual Firefox/Thunderbird/OpenOffice apps for the small screen or get the power management working properly. Then ASUS drank the Microsoft Kool-Aid and effectively switched to making entry level Windows laptops.
</p><p>Bottom line: Asus had no particular investment in promoting Linux - it was just a cheap option that ceased to be the cheapest option when MS started offering XP for a knock-down price.

</p><p>Google, OTOH, is presumably going to get behind its platform, push and keep pushing - and you <i>have</i> to use a Chrome machine as a netbook (especially if they take the ARM route). So now we'll see if the "true" netbook model works.

</p><p>Oh, and Google doesn't have to give them away to make them free  - just ensure the wholesale price is cheaper than the "netbooks" that mobile carriers and ISPs are already giving away "free".

</p><p>Bear in mind that the slashdot readership is not Google's target market. Nobody here is going to enthuse about a free/cheap web browser appliance unless they can hack it and use it for writing python scripts for automated wardriving.
</p><p>However, other people might be sold on the idea of a free netbook thrown in with their mobile contract, broadband or cable TV*, especially if it is marketed enthusiastically.

</p><p>(*How about a Chrome tablet as a program guide/remote for your TV...?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least , not what " netbooks " have actually become : cheap , compact , entry-level laptop PCs for people who want to run standard PC software but can live without editing HD video and have an xbox for their 100fps 3D fragging .
The Chrome idea is actually much closer to the original " netbook " concept : something the size of a BOOK to use to access the NET .
( See what they did there ?
) Now , we never got to find out how that went because ASUS made such a botch of the original EEE PC : it looked great on first sight , and they sold like hotcakes , but it was let down by the OS .
Once you got past the click-and-drool " launcher " no effort had been made to adapt the usual Firefox/Thunderbird/OpenOffice apps for the small screen or get the power management working properly .
Then ASUS drank the Microsoft Kool-Aid and effectively switched to making entry level Windows laptops .
Bottom line : Asus had no particular investment in promoting Linux - it was just a cheap option that ceased to be the cheapest option when MS started offering XP for a knock-down price .
Google , OTOH , is presumably going to get behind its platform , push and keep pushing - and you have to use a Chrome machine as a netbook ( especially if they take the ARM route ) .
So now we 'll see if the " true " netbook model works .
Oh , and Google does n't have to give them away to make them free - just ensure the wholesale price is cheaper than the " netbooks " that mobile carriers and ISPs are already giving away " free " .
Bear in mind that the slashdot readership is not Google 's target market .
Nobody here is going to enthuse about a free/cheap web browser appliance unless they can hack it and use it for writing python scripts for automated wardriving .
However , other people might be sold on the idea of a free netbook thrown in with their mobile contract , broadband or cable TV * , especially if it is marketed enthusiastically .
( * How about a Chrome tablet as a program guide/remote for your TV... ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least, not what "netbooks" have actually become: cheap, compact, entry-level laptop PCs for people who want to run standard PC software but can live without editing HD video and have an xbox for their 100fps 3D fragging.
The Chrome idea is actually much closer to the original "netbook" concept: something the size of a BOOK to use to access the NET.
(See what they did there?
)

Now, we never got to find out how that went because ASUS made such a botch of the original EEE PC: it looked great on first sight, and they sold like hotcakes, but it was let down by the OS.
Once you got past the click-and-drool "launcher" no effort had been made to adapt the usual Firefox/Thunderbird/OpenOffice apps for the small screen or get the power management working properly.
Then ASUS drank the Microsoft Kool-Aid and effectively switched to making entry level Windows laptops.
Bottom line: Asus had no particular investment in promoting Linux - it was just a cheap option that ceased to be the cheapest option when MS started offering XP for a knock-down price.
Google, OTOH, is presumably going to get behind its platform, push and keep pushing - and you have to use a Chrome machine as a netbook (especially if they take the ARM route).
So now we'll see if the "true" netbook model works.
Oh, and Google doesn't have to give them away to make them free  - just ensure the wholesale price is cheaper than the "netbooks" that mobile carriers and ISPs are already giving away "free".
Bear in mind that the slashdot readership is not Google's target market.
Nobody here is going to enthuse about a free/cheap web browser appliance unless they can hack it and use it for writing python scripts for automated wardriving.
However, other people might be sold on the idea of a free netbook thrown in with their mobile contract, broadband or cable TV*, especially if it is marketed enthusiastically.
(*How about a Chrome tablet as a program guide/remote for your TV...?
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215434</id>
	<title>Re:I wouldn't, but not for privacy concerns</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259085180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And like so many other Slashdotters it seems (quite a number if you read all the comments), you assume this is for replacing your primary computer. That's not what its for at all. This is solely to do online-based stuff. Like checking Gmail. This isn't for anything offline. Certainly not for Photoshop and I seriously doubt it would run much in the way of games either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And like so many other Slashdotters it seems ( quite a number if you read all the comments ) , you assume this is for replacing your primary computer .
That 's not what its for at all .
This is solely to do online-based stuff .
Like checking Gmail .
This is n't for anything offline .
Certainly not for Photoshop and I seriously doubt it would run much in the way of games either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And like so many other Slashdotters it seems (quite a number if you read all the comments), you assume this is for replacing your primary computer.
That's not what its for at all.
This is solely to do online-based stuff.
Like checking Gmail.
This isn't for anything offline.
Certainly not for Photoshop and I seriously doubt it would run much in the way of games either.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215088</id>
	<title>Attempted before</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259083740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>This was attempted before with Free-Pc.com (Now it is just a parked domain). This was back in 1999. 10000 free Compaq computers were given away. In return people gave up personal information/demographics/hobbies/etc in return for a PC that had advertising on the screen 24/7. <a href="http://www.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-9902/msg00044.html" title="nettime.org">Source</a> [nettime.org].
<br> <br>
The attempt was a bust if I recall right.
<br> <br>
But this is 10 years later; we have come a long way in targeted advertising. If anyone can do this, it is Google.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This was attempted before with Free-Pc.com ( Now it is just a parked domain ) .
This was back in 1999 .
10000 free Compaq computers were given away .
In return people gave up personal information/demographics/hobbies/etc in return for a PC that had advertising on the screen 24/7 .
Source [ nettime.org ] .
The attempt was a bust if I recall right .
But this is 10 years later ; we have come a long way in targeted advertising .
If anyone can do this , it is Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This was attempted before with Free-Pc.com (Now it is just a parked domain).
This was back in 1999.
10000 free Compaq computers were given away.
In return people gave up personal information/demographics/hobbies/etc in return for a PC that had advertising on the screen 24/7.
Source [nettime.org].
The attempt was a bust if I recall right.
But this is 10 years later; we have come a long way in targeted advertising.
If anyone can do this, it is Google.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215168</id>
	<title>Re:Would you accept a free Google netbook?</title>
	<author>EPDowd</author>
	<datestamp>1259084040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Right on.  I'd love a free computer as long as I could wipe it and install what I wanted.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Right on .
I 'd love a free computer as long as I could wipe it and install what I wanted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right on.
I'd love a free computer as long as I could wipe it and install what I wanted.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214286</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216224</id>
	<title>Re:Count me in</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1259088840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Oh, and by the way, Chromium is released under the BSD license, which is free-as-in-speech. I don't know what the license terms will be if such a hypothetical netbook were released, but at least the OS running on it would be open source.</p></div><p>IIRC, chromium =/= chrome OS.  It's like saying BSD is released under the BSD license, so Mac OS X and Windows (both use different amounts of BSD code) are open source.  Since Chromium is released under BSD, Google can make any number of changes they want to it before they distribute it as Chrome OS.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , and by the way , Chromium is released under the BSD license , which is free-as-in-speech .
I do n't know what the license terms will be if such a hypothetical netbook were released , but at least the OS running on it would be open source.IIRC , chromium = / = chrome OS .
It 's like saying BSD is released under the BSD license , so Mac OS X and Windows ( both use different amounts of BSD code ) are open source .
Since Chromium is released under BSD , Google can make any number of changes they want to it before they distribute it as Chrome OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, and by the way, Chromium is released under the BSD license, which is free-as-in-speech.
I don't know what the license terms will be if such a hypothetical netbook were released, but at least the OS running on it would be open source.IIRC, chromium =/= chrome OS.
It's like saying BSD is released under the BSD license, so Mac OS X and Windows (both use different amounts of BSD code) are open source.
Since Chromium is released under BSD, Google can make any number of changes they want to it before they distribute it as Chrome OS.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214362</id>
	<title>The short answer is...</title>
	<author>Dartz-IRL</author>
	<datestamp>1259080980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No..</p><p>Aside from Gmail, (which I access with Thunderbird) I try not to use too many google services. . I'm also mindful of that recent Apple patent about ad's which can physically block the machine, forcing the user to interact with them.</p><p>There's also a personal freedom/privacy issue.</p><p>I use Linux because it's 'mine' as such. I can pretty do what I want with it (compared to traditional software licenses anyway). I'm not quite sure how to word this in a rational<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... but something about Google providing me a free laptop, in exchange for being allowed to target-advertise me.... it's deeply unsettling. I don't like being followed.</p><p>Of course, I'm just a tinfoil hat moron, but well.... my computer is my castle, thick stone walls around my data safeguarding my privacy against casual observers.<br>I don't want transparent walls of glass showing my world to someone else.... even it it was free.</p><p>It feels very Big brother-ish.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No..Aside from Gmail , ( which I access with Thunderbird ) I try not to use too many google services .
. I 'm also mindful of that recent Apple patent about ad 's which can physically block the machine , forcing the user to interact with them.There 's also a personal freedom/privacy issue.I use Linux because it 's 'mine ' as such .
I can pretty do what I want with it ( compared to traditional software licenses anyway ) .
I 'm not quite sure how to word this in a rational .... but something about Google providing me a free laptop , in exchange for being allowed to target-advertise me.... it 's deeply unsettling .
I do n't like being followed.Of course , I 'm just a tinfoil hat moron , but well.... my computer is my castle , thick stone walls around my data safeguarding my privacy against casual observers.I do n't want transparent walls of glass showing my world to someone else.... even it it was free.It feels very Big brother-ish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No..Aside from Gmail, (which I access with Thunderbird) I try not to use too many google services.
. I'm also mindful of that recent Apple patent about ad's which can physically block the machine, forcing the user to interact with them.There's also a personal freedom/privacy issue.I use Linux because it's 'mine' as such.
I can pretty do what I want with it (compared to traditional software licenses anyway).
I'm not quite sure how to word this in a rational .... but something about Google providing me a free laptop, in exchange for being allowed to target-advertise me.... it's deeply unsettling.
I don't like being followed.Of course, I'm just a tinfoil hat moron, but well.... my computer is my castle, thick stone walls around my data safeguarding my privacy against casual observers.I don't want transparent walls of glass showing my world to someone else.... even it it was free.It feels very Big brother-ish.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214558</id>
	<title>No Way...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259081640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lets see... all my personal data stored on some host somewhere outside of my control, thanks but no, if google really wanted to be fruitful and compete in this market space of clouds and netbooks, they would allow for you to have a choice, say to store your data in your own cloud environment, or theirs, or other service. From a personal aspect I see the potential usefulness for convenience but privacy concerns are abundant when I have no other method but to store my data on someone elses server outside my control. If it were to enable me to use other services, ie.. my own cloud storage, then  potentially so, then we also have the issue of storage size they'll provide. Also note, there doesn't appear to be a method for offline document / email viewing. This OS is always on / always connected or it plainly doesn't function.  If Google really wants to play in this space they need to allow for more flexibility such as offline disconnected use, synchronizing data when reconnected, and other "services connectivity" like my own hosted cloud environment running like or similar capable apps. Until google releases a something more rounded and useful it appears to many more technical people as just a "hobbyist" or "not ready for prime time" OS, with limited functionality at that. Google is a giant, yes, but they need to get REAL... in the meantime ill stick with Ubuntu Netbook remix. At least that allows me choices of local apps, local storage, disconnected use, and synchronization with my own data center. We wount even begin to discuss the capabilities that are seriously lacking for a corporate world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lets see... all my personal data stored on some host somewhere outside of my control , thanks but no , if google really wanted to be fruitful and compete in this market space of clouds and netbooks , they would allow for you to have a choice , say to store your data in your own cloud environment , or theirs , or other service .
From a personal aspect I see the potential usefulness for convenience but privacy concerns are abundant when I have no other method but to store my data on someone elses server outside my control .
If it were to enable me to use other services , ie.. my own cloud storage , then potentially so , then we also have the issue of storage size they 'll provide .
Also note , there does n't appear to be a method for offline document / email viewing .
This OS is always on / always connected or it plainly does n't function .
If Google really wants to play in this space they need to allow for more flexibility such as offline disconnected use , synchronizing data when reconnected , and other " services connectivity " like my own hosted cloud environment running like or similar capable apps .
Until google releases a something more rounded and useful it appears to many more technical people as just a " hobbyist " or " not ready for prime time " OS , with limited functionality at that .
Google is a giant , yes , but they need to get REAL... in the meantime ill stick with Ubuntu Netbook remix .
At least that allows me choices of local apps , local storage , disconnected use , and synchronization with my own data center .
We wount even begin to discuss the capabilities that are seriously lacking for a corporate world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lets see... all my personal data stored on some host somewhere outside of my control, thanks but no, if google really wanted to be fruitful and compete in this market space of clouds and netbooks, they would allow for you to have a choice, say to store your data in your own cloud environment, or theirs, or other service.
From a personal aspect I see the potential usefulness for convenience but privacy concerns are abundant when I have no other method but to store my data on someone elses server outside my control.
If it were to enable me to use other services, ie.. my own cloud storage, then  potentially so, then we also have the issue of storage size they'll provide.
Also note, there doesn't appear to be a method for offline document / email viewing.
This OS is always on / always connected or it plainly doesn't function.
If Google really wants to play in this space they need to allow for more flexibility such as offline disconnected use, synchronizing data when reconnected, and other "services connectivity" like my own hosted cloud environment running like or similar capable apps.
Until google releases a something more rounded and useful it appears to many more technical people as just a "hobbyist" or "not ready for prime time" OS, with limited functionality at that.
Google is a giant, yes, but they need to get REAL... in the meantime ill stick with Ubuntu Netbook remix.
At least that allows me choices of local apps, local storage, disconnected use, and synchronization with my own data center.
We wount even begin to discuss the capabilities that are seriously lacking for a corporate world.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214452</id>
	<title>Remember the 90's</title>
	<author>Ceiynt</author>
	<datestamp>1259081340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>When companies would hand out free computers to anyone who asked, but they were so ad laden they were unusable? Or stopped whatever it was you were doing to play some sort of video for 30 seconds? Nothing is free.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When companies would hand out free computers to anyone who asked , but they were so ad laden they were unusable ?
Or stopped whatever it was you were doing to play some sort of video for 30 seconds ?
Nothing is free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When companies would hand out free computers to anyone who asked, but they were so ad laden they were unusable?
Or stopped whatever it was you were doing to play some sort of video for 30 seconds?
Nothing is free.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214544</id>
	<title>Like the Minitel</title>
	<author>frednofr</author>
	<datestamp>1259081640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This would be like the Minitel, except for the part where it's funded by advertising instead of billing its usage.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This would be like the Minitel , except for the part where it 's funded by advertising instead of billing its usage.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This would be like the Minitel, except for the part where it's funded by advertising instead of billing its usage.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30318772</id>
	<title>Re:Would you accept a free Google netbook?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259844960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My netbook doesn't have a hard drive, but installing Ubuntu on it isn't harder than installing it on any other computer.</p><p>Yes, Google has specified that these devices are not to have hard drives, they are to have SSDs instead, but that in itself shouldn't be a hindrance to installing Linux.  Since ChromeOS is based on Linux, the hardware should be Linux compatible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My netbook does n't have a hard drive , but installing Ubuntu on it is n't harder than installing it on any other computer.Yes , Google has specified that these devices are not to have hard drives , they are to have SSDs instead , but that in itself should n't be a hindrance to installing Linux .
Since ChromeOS is based on Linux , the hardware should be Linux compatible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My netbook doesn't have a hard drive, but installing Ubuntu on it isn't harder than installing it on any other computer.Yes, Google has specified that these devices are not to have hard drives, they are to have SSDs instead, but that in itself shouldn't be a hindrance to installing Linux.
Since ChromeOS is based on Linux, the hardware should be Linux compatible.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214654</id>
	<title>Yes, and root and reflash it</title>
	<author>pmontra</author>
	<datestamp>1259082120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Otherwise I won't touch it. I don't like being spied over so easily.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Otherwise I wo n't touch it .
I do n't like being spied over so easily .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Otherwise I won't touch it.
I don't like being spied over so easily.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214238</id>
	<title>A free \_netbook\_?</title>
	<author>E-Sabbath</author>
	<datestamp>1259080560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Considering the uses I'd have for a netbook, yes. It wouldn't replace my main computer. It'd be a walking about sort of tool. If it had a cell modem in it, so much the better.</p><p>Yeah, I'd allow it for a netbook. Advertise all you want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering the uses I 'd have for a netbook , yes .
It would n't replace my main computer .
It 'd be a walking about sort of tool .
If it had a cell modem in it , so much the better.Yeah , I 'd allow it for a netbook .
Advertise all you want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering the uses I'd have for a netbook, yes.
It wouldn't replace my main computer.
It'd be a walking about sort of tool.
If it had a cell modem in it, so much the better.Yeah, I'd allow it for a netbook.
Advertise all you want.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214406</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>rolfwind</author>
	<datestamp>1259081160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think it has to be a $150 netbook.  If all you are doing is regular internet surfing sans flash, an OLPC level book should be fine, and that was designed to be $100 years ago (although not quite reaching that level).</p><p>The problem with free is that people won't value it enough to take care of it.  They'll just trash it and move onto the next thing.  But a $50 or $100 netbook would be huge for customers.  Anything else on that level is usually a crappy toy.</p><p>And just like Microsoft counts on people growing up on their OS, google could do the same here.  Of course, I don't know if such a netbook will be worth it in the end in America, but definitely in third world countries.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think it has to be a $ 150 netbook .
If all you are doing is regular internet surfing sans flash , an OLPC level book should be fine , and that was designed to be $ 100 years ago ( although not quite reaching that level ) .The problem with free is that people wo n't value it enough to take care of it .
They 'll just trash it and move onto the next thing .
But a $ 50 or $ 100 netbook would be huge for customers .
Anything else on that level is usually a crappy toy.And just like Microsoft counts on people growing up on their OS , google could do the same here .
Of course , I do n't know if such a netbook will be worth it in the end in America , but definitely in third world countries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think it has to be a $150 netbook.
If all you are doing is regular internet surfing sans flash, an OLPC level book should be fine, and that was designed to be $100 years ago (although not quite reaching that level).The problem with free is that people won't value it enough to take care of it.
They'll just trash it and move onto the next thing.
But a $50 or $100 netbook would be huge for customers.
Anything else on that level is usually a crappy toy.And just like Microsoft counts on people growing up on their OS, google could do the same here.
Of course, I don't know if such a netbook will be worth it in the end in America, but definitely in third world countries.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215280</id>
	<title>Yes... next question?</title>
	<author>rwa2</author>
	<datestamp>1259084520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But really, how hard is it to maintain multiple personas online?</p><p>I have a consumer persona, with one set of amazon / ebay / email accounts, who likes to buy computer stuff, and gets a lot of relevant ads for computer stuff which he doesn't mind seeing (as opposed to beer or tampons).</p><p>I have a paranoid persona, who uses a different wired computer just to check his financial accounts and do his taxes and always encrypts everything.</p><p>And of course the anonymous persona, who likes to read about anarchism and the Quran and, uh, natural art, and send flames and stuff through anonymized services.</p><p>I suppose there's time to do a friends and family persona, kinda like Dexter, with a facebook account and a personal email account and flickr and fluff.</p><p>Computers are cheap, dammit.  And multiple personalities aren't all that difficult to keep separate.  And it probably also helps google inflate their eyeballs stats, and if law enforcement<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/really really/ wanted to, they might be able to connect the dots, but then I would have already have committed some horrible crime to be under such investigation<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But really , how hard is it to maintain multiple personas online ? I have a consumer persona , with one set of amazon / ebay / email accounts , who likes to buy computer stuff , and gets a lot of relevant ads for computer stuff which he does n't mind seeing ( as opposed to beer or tampons ) .I have a paranoid persona , who uses a different wired computer just to check his financial accounts and do his taxes and always encrypts everything.And of course the anonymous persona , who likes to read about anarchism and the Quran and , uh , natural art , and send flames and stuff through anonymized services.I suppose there 's time to do a friends and family persona , kinda like Dexter , with a facebook account and a personal email account and flickr and fluff.Computers are cheap , dammit .
And multiple personalities are n't all that difficult to keep separate .
And it probably also helps google inflate their eyeballs stats , and if law enforcement /really really/ wanted to , they might be able to connect the dots , but then I would have already have committed some horrible crime to be under such investigation : P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But really, how hard is it to maintain multiple personas online?I have a consumer persona, with one set of amazon / ebay / email accounts, who likes to buy computer stuff, and gets a lot of relevant ads for computer stuff which he doesn't mind seeing (as opposed to beer or tampons).I have a paranoid persona, who uses a different wired computer just to check his financial accounts and do his taxes and always encrypts everything.And of course the anonymous persona, who likes to read about anarchism and the Quran and, uh, natural art, and send flames and stuff through anonymized services.I suppose there's time to do a friends and family persona, kinda like Dexter, with a facebook account and a personal email account and flickr and fluff.Computers are cheap, dammit.
And multiple personalities aren't all that difficult to keep separate.
And it probably also helps google inflate their eyeballs stats, and if law enforcement /really really/ wanted to, they might be able to connect the dots, but then I would have already have committed some horrible crime to be under such investigation :P</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30218252</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>Chryana</author>
	<datestamp>1259055420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If google needed processing power to compute prime number or to do protein folding, you would have a point. However, as it is, most of their products are fairly bandwidth intensive (text searches for database access, youtube, etc), and I'm not sure what kind of calculations they could get done remotely on under-powered Atoms, which can be turned off at the whim of their users, and whose profitability would outweigh the bandwidth cost. Also, although anecdotes are not data, this is not a novel idea, and yet I'm still waiting to see a profitable business model which is centered on distributed processing power. None of those businesses lasted, and they weren't giving away laptops for free...</p><p>I personally doubt Google netbooks will ever be given away, but I can imagine them being offered for "free" as part a long term Internet contract.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If google needed processing power to compute prime number or to do protein folding , you would have a point .
However , as it is , most of their products are fairly bandwidth intensive ( text searches for database access , youtube , etc ) , and I 'm not sure what kind of calculations they could get done remotely on under-powered Atoms , which can be turned off at the whim of their users , and whose profitability would outweigh the bandwidth cost .
Also , although anecdotes are not data , this is not a novel idea , and yet I 'm still waiting to see a profitable business model which is centered on distributed processing power .
None of those businesses lasted , and they were n't giving away laptops for free...I personally doubt Google netbooks will ever be given away , but I can imagine them being offered for " free " as part a long term Internet contract .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If google needed processing power to compute prime number or to do protein folding, you would have a point.
However, as it is, most of their products are fairly bandwidth intensive (text searches for database access, youtube, etc), and I'm not sure what kind of calculations they could get done remotely on under-powered Atoms, which can be turned off at the whim of their users, and whose profitability would outweigh the bandwidth cost.
Also, although anecdotes are not data, this is not a novel idea, and yet I'm still waiting to see a profitable business model which is centered on distributed processing power.
None of those businesses lasted, and they weren't giving away laptops for free...I personally doubt Google netbooks will ever be given away, but I can imagine them being offered for "free" as part a long term Internet contract.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215784</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1259086680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The fact that OLPC specifically targeted a $100 machine and couldn't achieve it should tell you a lot about the feasibility of a sub $100 computer.</p><p>Historically prices on PCs have come down, but the low end computers have started to reach a limit. A sub $100 laptop/netbook is about as practical as it was 5 years ago except that you can put more RAM in it now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The fact that OLPC specifically targeted a $ 100 machine and could n't achieve it should tell you a lot about the feasibility of a sub $ 100 computer.Historically prices on PCs have come down , but the low end computers have started to reach a limit .
A sub $ 100 laptop/netbook is about as practical as it was 5 years ago except that you can put more RAM in it now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fact that OLPC specifically targeted a $100 machine and couldn't achieve it should tell you a lot about the feasibility of a sub $100 computer.Historically prices on PCs have come down, but the low end computers have started to reach a limit.
A sub $100 laptop/netbook is about as practical as it was 5 years ago except that you can put more RAM in it now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214290</id>
	<title>Duhhh</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1259080740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd take several dozen, probably hundreds... hardware can't be given away. I think.... I'd wallpaper my house with monitors. I'm sure I could make a nice server/web ap to run all the buggers even if I couldn't take the hardware apart.<p>Basically, the idea is impossible and stupid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd take several dozen , probably hundreds... hardware ca n't be given away .
I think.... I 'd wallpaper my house with monitors .
I 'm sure I could make a nice server/web ap to run all the buggers even if I could n't take the hardware apart.Basically , the idea is impossible and stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd take several dozen, probably hundreds... hardware can't be given away.
I think.... I'd wallpaper my house with monitors.
I'm sure I could make a nice server/web ap to run all the buggers even if I couldn't take the hardware apart.Basically, the idea is impossible and stupid.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214820</id>
	<title>You forget who you're talking to</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259082960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Give us a free netbook at the cost of seeing ads? You're forgetting one thing: Chrome OS is Linux at its heart, and we're a bunch of Linux geeks. We'd have those ads hacked out of it faster than you could say "/etc/hosts.deny".</htmltext>
<tokenext>Give us a free netbook at the cost of seeing ads ?
You 're forgetting one thing : Chrome OS is Linux at its heart , and we 're a bunch of Linux geeks .
We 'd have those ads hacked out of it faster than you could say " /etc/hosts.deny " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Give us a free netbook at the cost of seeing ads?
You're forgetting one thing: Chrome OS is Linux at its heart, and we're a bunch of Linux geeks.
We'd have those ads hacked out of it faster than you could say "/etc/hosts.deny".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215700</id>
	<title>Would I use a free netbook from Google?</title>
	<author>icannotthinkofaname</author>
	<datestamp>1259086260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Depends.  Is this netbook also open-source?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends .
Is this netbook also open-source ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends.
Is this netbook also open-source?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214314</id>
	<title>Yes, I would.</title>
	<author>methano</author>
	<datestamp>1259080740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And I'll say it again.

Yes, I would.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And I 'll say it again .
Yes , I would .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I'll say it again.
Yes, I would.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216624</id>
	<title>Of course I'd accept one.</title>
	<author>StikyPad</author>
	<datestamp>1259090700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And I'd start hacking it about 5 seconds after I got home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I 'd start hacking it about 5 seconds after I got home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I'd start hacking it about 5 seconds after I got home.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214994</id>
	<title>Privacy Issues</title>
	<author>DaMattster</author>
	<datestamp>1259083380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wouldn't accept a free netbook from Google because, in effect, you do not own the netbook.  It is almost a zero dollar lease concept so you really would not be allowed to modify it.  Therefore, you surrender your privacy to the security or lackthereof of Google.  Imagine a massive botnet replicating along a network of Google Netbooks.  Furthermore, imagine your private data being accessed or stolen.  No, this is not Orwellian 1984 paranoia - this is a 2009 reality.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't accept a free netbook from Google because , in effect , you do not own the netbook .
It is almost a zero dollar lease concept so you really would not be allowed to modify it .
Therefore , you surrender your privacy to the security or lackthereof of Google .
Imagine a massive botnet replicating along a network of Google Netbooks .
Furthermore , imagine your private data being accessed or stolen .
No , this is not Orwellian 1984 paranoia - this is a 2009 reality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't accept a free netbook from Google because, in effect, you do not own the netbook.
It is almost a zero dollar lease concept so you really would not be allowed to modify it.
Therefore, you surrender your privacy to the security or lackthereof of Google.
Imagine a massive botnet replicating along a network of Google Netbooks.
Furthermore, imagine your private data being accessed or stolen.
No, this is not Orwellian 1984 paranoia - this is a 2009 reality.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214496</id>
	<title>I Would</title>
	<author>whisper\_jeff</author>
	<datestamp>1259081460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I doubt they'll ever give away a free computer as hypothesized but, if they did, I'd get one. Now, I'm Canadian so I don't have the same cultural distrust of Big Brother that most Americans have (not a knock - just an honest observation - it is a cultural difference between our two countries) so I'm sure that plays a big part of it but, to me, I'm willing to "pay" for a computer by giving Google some valuable information that they can use to better advertise to me. That is, after all, what they would be "buying" by giving me a netbook - they're buying information so that they can better appeal to me as a consumer of advertising. They are making their advertising work better. I'm ok with that. Sure, they may also find out little quirks about me that I'd rather they not discover. Yes, it opens up a plethora of privacy debates well-worth having. Yes, I know all of that. To me, however, it's worth it. I have nothing to hide from Google so I'm willing to give them what they're asking for if they're willing to give me something in return that I desire.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt they 'll ever give away a free computer as hypothesized but , if they did , I 'd get one .
Now , I 'm Canadian so I do n't have the same cultural distrust of Big Brother that most Americans have ( not a knock - just an honest observation - it is a cultural difference between our two countries ) so I 'm sure that plays a big part of it but , to me , I 'm willing to " pay " for a computer by giving Google some valuable information that they can use to better advertise to me .
That is , after all , what they would be " buying " by giving me a netbook - they 're buying information so that they can better appeal to me as a consumer of advertising .
They are making their advertising work better .
I 'm ok with that .
Sure , they may also find out little quirks about me that I 'd rather they not discover .
Yes , it opens up a plethora of privacy debates well-worth having .
Yes , I know all of that .
To me , however , it 's worth it .
I have nothing to hide from Google so I 'm willing to give them what they 're asking for if they 're willing to give me something in return that I desire .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt they'll ever give away a free computer as hypothesized but, if they did, I'd get one.
Now, I'm Canadian so I don't have the same cultural distrust of Big Brother that most Americans have (not a knock - just an honest observation - it is a cultural difference between our two countries) so I'm sure that plays a big part of it but, to me, I'm willing to "pay" for a computer by giving Google some valuable information that they can use to better advertise to me.
That is, after all, what they would be "buying" by giving me a netbook - they're buying information so that they can better appeal to me as a consumer of advertising.
They are making their advertising work better.
I'm ok with that.
Sure, they may also find out little quirks about me that I'd rather they not discover.
Yes, it opens up a plethora of privacy debates well-worth having.
Yes, I know all of that.
To me, however, it's worth it.
I have nothing to hide from Google so I'm willing to give them what they're asking for if they're willing to give me something in return that I desire.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214300</id>
	<title>Certainly!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259080740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I, for one, welcome our new Google overlords.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I , for one , welcome our new Google overlords .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I, for one, welcome our new Google overlords.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216702</id>
	<title>Netbooks are free with 3g</title>
	<author>Colin Smith</author>
	<datestamp>1259091180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>3G connection, 3g enabled netbook. 20/month.</p><p>25 and Google apps are thrown in.</p><p>Without the netbook, just a sim? 20/month.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>3G connection , 3g enabled netbook .
20/month.25 and Google apps are thrown in.Without the netbook , just a sim ?
20/month .  </tokentext>
<sentencetext>3G connection, 3g enabled netbook.
20/month.25 and Google apps are thrown in.Without the netbook, just a sim?
20/month.
 </sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214980</id>
	<title>Re:A free \_netbook\_?</title>
	<author>Zerth</author>
	<datestamp>1259083380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I already have a netbook and I'd get it, as I got mine early, so odds are it might be better.</p><p>If you're really paranoid: get it, stick it in a closet, wait for the eventual failure/shutdown of the project, google for re-imaging HOWTOs, and then start using it.</p><p>I've still got some declawed CueCats:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I already have a netbook and I 'd get it , as I got mine early , so odds are it might be better.If you 're really paranoid : get it , stick it in a closet , wait for the eventual failure/shutdown of the project , google for re-imaging HOWTOs , and then start using it.I 've still got some declawed CueCats : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I already have a netbook and I'd get it, as I got mine early, so odds are it might be better.If you're really paranoid: get it, stick it in a closet, wait for the eventual failure/shutdown of the project, google for re-imaging HOWTOs, and then start using it.I've still got some declawed CueCats:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214238</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30217472</id>
	<title>Heck No - What about privacy?</title>
	<author>BlueCoder</author>
	<datestamp>1259094900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I actually trust Bid Brother Google to a certain extent right now.  But that's only right now, trust changes with time.  At the moment what really bothers me is governments and that they can get at your data with merely a judges signature, like there aren't any corrupt judges or judges deep in politics.  Google is politically correct and follows laws of most of the countries on this planet so we also have to fear private interests that can bribe judges in other countries.</p><p>Now while I may not spend all my time plotting to take over the world I'm not about to give anyone anything that someone else can leverage against me.  Show me a Switzerland for private data that is going to stand up to all government and private interests and is willing blow up it's facilities before handing it over my diary to anyone but me and maybe I upload an encrypted backup.</p><p>I give criminals rights and privacy so that I have them.  Criminals don't need rights although they may use them it's only because it cheaper.  Real criminals buy their freedom and take away our rights everyday.</p><p>And I don't give a crap about pedophiles online or their fantasy's.  It's a red herring.  We want them online trading images.  We need to focus on those people making the images and identify the children involved.  All these macho politicization pounding their chests going after pedophiles, why aren't they out lobbying the public to raise taxes to get children out of abusive homes?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually trust Bid Brother Google to a certain extent right now .
But that 's only right now , trust changes with time .
At the moment what really bothers me is governments and that they can get at your data with merely a judges signature , like there are n't any corrupt judges or judges deep in politics .
Google is politically correct and follows laws of most of the countries on this planet so we also have to fear private interests that can bribe judges in other countries.Now while I may not spend all my time plotting to take over the world I 'm not about to give anyone anything that someone else can leverage against me .
Show me a Switzerland for private data that is going to stand up to all government and private interests and is willing blow up it 's facilities before handing it over my diary to anyone but me and maybe I upload an encrypted backup.I give criminals rights and privacy so that I have them .
Criminals do n't need rights although they may use them it 's only because it cheaper .
Real criminals buy their freedom and take away our rights everyday.And I do n't give a crap about pedophiles online or their fantasy 's .
It 's a red herring .
We want them online trading images .
We need to focus on those people making the images and identify the children involved .
All these macho politicization pounding their chests going after pedophiles , why are n't they out lobbying the public to raise taxes to get children out of abusive homes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually trust Bid Brother Google to a certain extent right now.
But that's only right now, trust changes with time.
At the moment what really bothers me is governments and that they can get at your data with merely a judges signature, like there aren't any corrupt judges or judges deep in politics.
Google is politically correct and follows laws of most of the countries on this planet so we also have to fear private interests that can bribe judges in other countries.Now while I may not spend all my time plotting to take over the world I'm not about to give anyone anything that someone else can leverage against me.
Show me a Switzerland for private data that is going to stand up to all government and private interests and is willing blow up it's facilities before handing it over my diary to anyone but me and maybe I upload an encrypted backup.I give criminals rights and privacy so that I have them.
Criminals don't need rights although they may use them it's only because it cheaper.
Real criminals buy their freedom and take away our rights everyday.And I don't give a crap about pedophiles online or their fantasy's.
It's a red herring.
We want them online trading images.
We need to focus on those people making the images and identify the children involved.
All these macho politicization pounding their chests going after pedophiles, why aren't they out lobbying the public to raise taxes to get children out of abusive homes?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30217426</id>
	<title>Absolutely Not - Google is next level evil</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259094780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would not accept it myself and neither would anyone in my family. Now, if I were extremely desperate and broke and needing to get on-line I would take it. But if that were the situation then the ads would not do me much good unless they were something like coupons for my local grocery store.</p><p>Google is next level evil. We need to get our privacy back. Most average Google users do not know that Google knows and stores so much information about them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would not accept it myself and neither would anyone in my family .
Now , if I were extremely desperate and broke and needing to get on-line I would take it .
But if that were the situation then the ads would not do me much good unless they were something like coupons for my local grocery store.Google is next level evil .
We need to get our privacy back .
Most average Google users do not know that Google knows and stores so much information about them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would not accept it myself and neither would anyone in my family.
Now, if I were extremely desperate and broke and needing to get on-line I would take it.
But if that were the situation then the ads would not do me much good unless they were something like coupons for my local grocery store.Google is next level evil.
We need to get our privacy back.
Most average Google users do not know that Google knows and stores so much information about them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214946</id>
	<title>I'd take two</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259083260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd like to have a laptop in the kitchen,  and a laptop in the bathroom.<br>And I don't want really want to use the same one in both places.</p><p>That would keep my other computers a lot cleaner.<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to have a laptop in the kitchen , and a laptop in the bathroom.And I do n't want really want to use the same one in both places.That would keep my other computers a lot cleaner .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to have a laptop in the kitchen,  and a laptop in the bathroom.And I don't want really want to use the same one in both places.That would keep my other computers a lot cleaner.
 </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214602</id>
	<title>I wouldn't, but not for privacy concerns</title>
	<author>JakeD409</author>
	<datestamp>1259081940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wouldn't use a free netbook from Google because I'm a developer. I also play games, use Photoshop, and other things that are out of the scope of web apps.

However, the primary audience of Chrome OS (people who just need to do word processing, spreadsheets, email, check the internet, etc.) would probably love it. They're already used to their computer being full of ads from the spyware they don't know how to avoid, so a free computer with (theoretically) nicer ads is probably infinitely preferable to a $300+ computer that still has ads for them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't use a free netbook from Google because I 'm a developer .
I also play games , use Photoshop , and other things that are out of the scope of web apps .
However , the primary audience of Chrome OS ( people who just need to do word processing , spreadsheets , email , check the internet , etc .
) would probably love it .
They 're already used to their computer being full of ads from the spyware they do n't know how to avoid , so a free computer with ( theoretically ) nicer ads is probably infinitely preferable to a $ 300 + computer that still has ads for them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't use a free netbook from Google because I'm a developer.
I also play games, use Photoshop, and other things that are out of the scope of web apps.
However, the primary audience of Chrome OS (people who just need to do word processing, spreadsheets, email, check the internet, etc.
) would probably love it.
They're already used to their computer being full of ads from the spyware they don't know how to avoid, so a free computer with (theoretically) nicer ads is probably infinitely preferable to a $300+ computer that still has ads for them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214424</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259081220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TripMaster Monkey, why do you pretend that you know better than Google if they can afford this or not?</p><p>Unlike them, you're just <b>MAKING UP NUMBERS</b>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TripMaster Monkey , why do you pretend that you know better than Google if they can afford this or not ? Unlike them , you 're just MAKING UP NUMBERS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TripMaster Monkey, why do you pretend that you know better than Google if they can afford this or not?Unlike them, you're just MAKING UP NUMBERS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215122</id>
	<title>Re:The short answer is...</title>
	<author>kFiddle</author>
	<datestamp>1259083860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nothing that a little crypto can't solve.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nothing that a little crypto ca n't solve .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nothing that a little crypto can't solve.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216630</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>idiot900</author>
	<datestamp>1259090760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Who said the netbook cost $150? I would guess that the bulk purchases and low requirements could allow them to cut that down to sub $40 within four or five years.</p></div><p>$40 isn't much. I would be perfectly willing to pay $40 for a computer without ads or intrusive tracking rather than $0 for one with those things.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who said the netbook cost $ 150 ?
I would guess that the bulk purchases and low requirements could allow them to cut that down to sub $ 40 within four or five years. $ 40 is n't much .
I would be perfectly willing to pay $ 40 for a computer without ads or intrusive tracking rather than $ 0 for one with those things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who said the netbook cost $150?
I would guess that the bulk purchases and low requirements could allow them to cut that down to sub $40 within four or five years.$40 isn't much.
I would be perfectly willing to pay $40 for a computer without ads or intrusive tracking rather than $0 for one with those things.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214448</id>
	<title>Excuse me?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259081340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>emphasis on lean code means that a low-cost processor could be used</p></div><p>I must've missed a meeting. Emphasis on lean code? A 1.6GHz netbook CPU is considered bottom of the barrel performance-wise these days. That's 1600MHz. For reading email and web pages. Where is this lean code that you're talking about? How dare you talk about lean code on SLASHDOT, which uses so much scripting that it is slow as molasses on even moderately fast CPUs?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>emphasis on lean code means that a low-cost processor could be usedI must 've missed a meeting .
Emphasis on lean code ?
A 1.6GHz netbook CPU is considered bottom of the barrel performance-wise these days .
That 's 1600MHz .
For reading email and web pages .
Where is this lean code that you 're talking about ?
How dare you talk about lean code on SLASHDOT , which uses so much scripting that it is slow as molasses on even moderately fast CPUs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>emphasis on lean code means that a low-cost processor could be usedI must've missed a meeting.
Emphasis on lean code?
A 1.6GHz netbook CPU is considered bottom of the barrel performance-wise these days.
That's 1600MHz.
For reading email and web pages.
Where is this lean code that you're talking about?
How dare you talk about lean code on SLASHDOT, which uses so much scripting that it is slow as molasses on even moderately fast CPUs?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214692</id>
	<title>Count me in</title>
	<author>KingSkippus</author>
	<datestamp>1259082300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I won't use a machine which is useless without network.</p></div></blockquote><p>I just about <i>can't</i> use a machine without using a network.  My favorite game is an MMORPG, which is useless without a network.  Even other games, I usually have a browser window open for reference.  My e-mail is accessed via a web client.  (Even with a local client, all you could do is compose or read, not send or receive.)  I do web development, which is on a remote web host.  When I'm developing things locally in Visual Studio, I'm <i>constantly</i> using online references and documentation.  I suppose I could in theory write a letter or something, but to be honest, I don't write letters to people any more.  I even require the Internet to do something as simple as watch television these days.  (Broadcast tv?  Forget it, I use Hulu.)</p><p>If you don't use the Internet as much as I do, more power to you.  But I really think that going forward, offline computer use is going to be the exception, not the rule.  I think saying what you said will eventually sound like, "I won't use a telephone that is useless without a wireless connectivity."  Like the cell network, the Internet is so pervasive today that it's weird to run across an application that doesn't use it in some capacity.</p><p>Oh, and by the way, Chromium is released under the <a href="http://code.google.com/chromium/terms.html" title="google.com">BSD license</a> [google.com], which is free-as-in-speech.  I don't know what the license terms will be if such a hypothetical netbook were released, but at least the OS running on it would be open source.  From a freedom-as-in-Stallman viewpoint, it may not be perfect, but it is orders of magnitude better than what is currently running on most netbooks out there.  Evil is not the opposite of perfect.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wo n't use a machine which is useless without network.I just about ca n't use a machine without using a network .
My favorite game is an MMORPG , which is useless without a network .
Even other games , I usually have a browser window open for reference .
My e-mail is accessed via a web client .
( Even with a local client , all you could do is compose or read , not send or receive .
) I do web development , which is on a remote web host .
When I 'm developing things locally in Visual Studio , I 'm constantly using online references and documentation .
I suppose I could in theory write a letter or something , but to be honest , I do n't write letters to people any more .
I even require the Internet to do something as simple as watch television these days .
( Broadcast tv ?
Forget it , I use Hulu .
) If you do n't use the Internet as much as I do , more power to you .
But I really think that going forward , offline computer use is going to be the exception , not the rule .
I think saying what you said will eventually sound like , " I wo n't use a telephone that is useless without a wireless connectivity .
" Like the cell network , the Internet is so pervasive today that it 's weird to run across an application that does n't use it in some capacity.Oh , and by the way , Chromium is released under the BSD license [ google.com ] , which is free-as-in-speech .
I do n't know what the license terms will be if such a hypothetical netbook were released , but at least the OS running on it would be open source .
From a freedom-as-in-Stallman viewpoint , it may not be perfect , but it is orders of magnitude better than what is currently running on most netbooks out there .
Evil is not the opposite of perfect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I won't use a machine which is useless without network.I just about can't use a machine without using a network.
My favorite game is an MMORPG, which is useless without a network.
Even other games, I usually have a browser window open for reference.
My e-mail is accessed via a web client.
(Even with a local client, all you could do is compose or read, not send or receive.
)  I do web development, which is on a remote web host.
When I'm developing things locally in Visual Studio, I'm constantly using online references and documentation.
I suppose I could in theory write a letter or something, but to be honest, I don't write letters to people any more.
I even require the Internet to do something as simple as watch television these days.
(Broadcast tv?
Forget it, I use Hulu.
)If you don't use the Internet as much as I do, more power to you.
But I really think that going forward, offline computer use is going to be the exception, not the rule.
I think saying what you said will eventually sound like, "I won't use a telephone that is useless without a wireless connectivity.
"  Like the cell network, the Internet is so pervasive today that it's weird to run across an application that doesn't use it in some capacity.Oh, and by the way, Chromium is released under the BSD license [google.com], which is free-as-in-speech.
I don't know what the license terms will be if such a hypothetical netbook were released, but at least the OS running on it would be open source.
From a freedom-as-in-Stallman viewpoint, it may not be perfect, but it is orders of magnitude better than what is currently running on most netbooks out there.
Evil is not the opposite of perfect.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214774</id>
	<title>I think it's a great idea.</title>
	<author>tmosley</author>
	<datestamp>1259082780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think they would be able to give them away for free, though.  As someone else mentioned, people would take advantage of that, and wallpaper their rooms with monitors and such.  What I would do is charge the person who wanted one COST or something less than cost, and let your profits come from the advertising as mentioned.  If the cost to make one of these things is ten or twenty dollars, as speculated in the article, it would probably work quite well.  I'd pay ten or twenty bucks for a Google netbook.  Hell, if it provided free internet access, I'd pay a few hundred, a la Kindle.  I think most people in the developed world would do the same.  That is, assuming it remained open and unhobbled.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think they would be able to give them away for free , though .
As someone else mentioned , people would take advantage of that , and wallpaper their rooms with monitors and such .
What I would do is charge the person who wanted one COST or something less than cost , and let your profits come from the advertising as mentioned .
If the cost to make one of these things is ten or twenty dollars , as speculated in the article , it would probably work quite well .
I 'd pay ten or twenty bucks for a Google netbook .
Hell , if it provided free internet access , I 'd pay a few hundred , a la Kindle .
I think most people in the developed world would do the same .
That is , assuming it remained open and unhobbled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think they would be able to give them away for free, though.
As someone else mentioned, people would take advantage of that, and wallpaper their rooms with monitors and such.
What I would do is charge the person who wanted one COST or something less than cost, and let your profits come from the advertising as mentioned.
If the cost to make one of these things is ten or twenty dollars, as speculated in the article, it would probably work quite well.
I'd pay ten or twenty bucks for a Google netbook.
Hell, if it provided free internet access, I'd pay a few hundred, a la Kindle.
I think most people in the developed world would do the same.
That is, assuming it remained open and unhobbled.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30222102</id>
	<title>Yes, but show us how hard you defend us first.</title>
	<author>unity100</author>
	<datestamp>1259076900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>defend against FBI, NSA, CIA, RIAA, DOJ, whatever.</p><p>show us how hard you defend our privacy, nomatter what, and it can be considered.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>defend against FBI , NSA , CIA , RIAA , DOJ , whatever.show us how hard you defend our privacy , nomatter what , and it can be considered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>defend against FBI, NSA, CIA, RIAA, DOJ, whatever.show us how hard you defend our privacy, nomatter what, and it can be considered.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216378</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>4D6963</author>
	<datestamp>1259089440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>now what if you had idle processes on netbooks using up spare Atom (or whatever is out there) CPU time? Think about it, it could be the user footing part of your server energy bill.</i> </p><p>I thought about it, and no. No one's stupid enough to run idle processes for processing. Idle priority or not, you don't run a portable device's CPU at 100\% all the time unless you have a damn good reason.

</p><p>And then, even if they did that, how much could they get done with a bunch of low spec machines with crappy Internet connections? If they had a problem with their energy bill and wanted to save energy in such a way they'd build a server farm out of OMAP3-based SoCs.

</p><p>This being said, if Google gets $1 everytime you click on one of their ads, it won't take too long before a $50 machine is paid for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>now what if you had idle processes on netbooks using up spare Atom ( or whatever is out there ) CPU time ?
Think about it , it could be the user footing part of your server energy bill .
I thought about it , and no .
No one 's stupid enough to run idle processes for processing .
Idle priority or not , you do n't run a portable device 's CPU at 100 \ % all the time unless you have a damn good reason .
And then , even if they did that , how much could they get done with a bunch of low spec machines with crappy Internet connections ?
If they had a problem with their energy bill and wanted to save energy in such a way they 'd build a server farm out of OMAP3-based SoCs .
This being said , if Google gets $ 1 everytime you click on one of their ads , it wo n't take too long before a $ 50 machine is paid for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> now what if you had idle processes on netbooks using up spare Atom (or whatever is out there) CPU time?
Think about it, it could be the user footing part of your server energy bill.
I thought about it, and no.
No one's stupid enough to run idle processes for processing.
Idle priority or not, you don't run a portable device's CPU at 100\% all the time unless you have a damn good reason.
And then, even if they did that, how much could they get done with a bunch of low spec machines with crappy Internet connections?
If they had a problem with their energy bill and wanted to save energy in such a way they'd build a server farm out of OMAP3-based SoCs.
This being said, if Google gets $1 everytime you click on one of their ads, it won't take too long before a $50 machine is paid for.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216984</id>
	<title>Re:The short answer is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259092380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah but it's free!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah but it 's free !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah but it's free!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30224012</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>bhiestand</author>
	<datestamp>1257157680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My take on this is that it's just about simple Business 101:  Commoditize whatever customers need to use your service.</p><p>Google wants everyone to be able to use Google as much as possible.  To do this, they need to put out a good mobile OS and browser for free.  Drive the price of these devices down as much as possible, and more people will be using Google services.</p><p>It seems that's what it's really all about.  Who gives a damn whether or not Google actually offers their own netbooks?  They just have to drive the costs down as much as possible so that everyone with a dollar to spend has SOME device that has them using Google's services.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My take on this is that it 's just about simple Business 101 : Commoditize whatever customers need to use your service.Google wants everyone to be able to use Google as much as possible .
To do this , they need to put out a good mobile OS and browser for free .
Drive the price of these devices down as much as possible , and more people will be using Google services.It seems that 's what it 's really all about .
Who gives a damn whether or not Google actually offers their own netbooks ?
They just have to drive the costs down as much as possible so that everyone with a dollar to spend has SOME device that has them using Google 's services .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My take on this is that it's just about simple Business 101:  Commoditize whatever customers need to use your service.Google wants everyone to be able to use Google as much as possible.
To do this, they need to put out a good mobile OS and browser for free.
Drive the price of these devices down as much as possible, and more people will be using Google services.It seems that's what it's really all about.
Who gives a damn whether or not Google actually offers their own netbooks?
They just have to drive the costs down as much as possible so that everyone with a dollar to spend has SOME device that has them using Google's services.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214262</id>
	<title>No I won't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259080620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I won't use a machine which is useless without network. I don't like to rely on an internet connection because some times it breaks. I want to be able to store files on my computer and use it on the plane. And I want to be able to do it off-line. I want all my tools locally, I need LaTeX to work, I need a compiler, I need scientific visualization tools.</p><p>I believe in free-as-in-speech software and I don't see how GoogleOS really fits into it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wo n't use a machine which is useless without network .
I do n't like to rely on an internet connection because some times it breaks .
I want to be able to store files on my computer and use it on the plane .
And I want to be able to do it off-line .
I want all my tools locally , I need LaTeX to work , I need a compiler , I need scientific visualization tools.I believe in free-as-in-speech software and I do n't see how GoogleOS really fits into it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I won't use a machine which is useless without network.
I don't like to rely on an internet connection because some times it breaks.
I want to be able to store files on my computer and use it on the plane.
And I want to be able to do it off-line.
I want all my tools locally, I need LaTeX to work, I need a compiler, I need scientific visualization tools.I believe in free-as-in-speech software and I don't see how GoogleOS really fits into it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215844</id>
	<title>Anyone that says no</title>
	<author>d4nowar</author>
	<datestamp>1259087040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is lying to themselves.</p><p>If someone gives you something useful for free and you don't use it just because of who you got it from, then you're just being stubborn.</p><p>So here's to getting a free netbook someday!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is lying to themselves.If someone gives you something useful for free and you do n't use it just because of who you got it from , then you 're just being stubborn.So here 's to getting a free netbook someday !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is lying to themselves.If someone gives you something useful for free and you don't use it just because of who you got it from, then you're just being stubborn.So here's to getting a free netbook someday!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214798</id>
	<title>Re:Would you accept a free Google netbook?</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1259082840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just wanted to ask: Does it run Linux?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just wanted to ask : Does it run Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just wanted to ask: Does it run Linux?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30218822</id>
	<title>Re:Count me in</title>
	<author>MattskEE</author>
	<datestamp>1259057880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well then I guess that unlike me you will be screwed whenever your internet goes down<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p><p>To start you should separate local network and internet connectivity, in the companies I've worked at you can access many resources including instant messaging and some documentation over an intranet.</p><p>When I'm at work (RF circuit engineer) the big thing that I use the internet for is searching vendors like Digikey and Mouser for parts, and downloading datasheets.  If the internet goes down, then I have the gigantic paper catalogs they always send me (currently serving as monitor stands), and a pretty good collection of datasheets to refer to.  Much of the software that I use requires the company's local network to function in order to connect to the license server.  And I need the local network working to email internal colleagues, but I can pick up the phone or walk to their desk if necessary.</p><p>So for me the internet going down would be a bearable inconvenience, but the local network in our company going down would be pretty bad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well then I guess that unlike me you will be screwed whenever your internet goes down ; - ) To start you should separate local network and internet connectivity , in the companies I 've worked at you can access many resources including instant messaging and some documentation over an intranet.When I 'm at work ( RF circuit engineer ) the big thing that I use the internet for is searching vendors like Digikey and Mouser for parts , and downloading datasheets .
If the internet goes down , then I have the gigantic paper catalogs they always send me ( currently serving as monitor stands ) , and a pretty good collection of datasheets to refer to .
Much of the software that I use requires the company 's local network to function in order to connect to the license server .
And I need the local network working to email internal colleagues , but I can pick up the phone or walk to their desk if necessary.So for me the internet going down would be a bearable inconvenience , but the local network in our company going down would be pretty bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well then I guess that unlike me you will be screwed whenever your internet goes down ;-)To start you should separate local network and internet connectivity, in the companies I've worked at you can access many resources including instant messaging and some documentation over an intranet.When I'm at work (RF circuit engineer) the big thing that I use the internet for is searching vendors like Digikey and Mouser for parts, and downloading datasheets.
If the internet goes down, then I have the gigantic paper catalogs they always send me (currently serving as monitor stands), and a pretty good collection of datasheets to refer to.
Much of the software that I use requires the company's local network to function in order to connect to the license server.
And I need the local network working to email internal colleagues, but I can pick up the phone or walk to their desk if necessary.So for me the internet going down would be a bearable inconvenience, but the local network in our company going down would be pretty bad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215992</id>
	<title>Re:why would I accept a netbook?</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1259087640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why would I want a netbook, free or not? You have to have demand first before you think of price, and even at price 0, demand is not infinite (you've got to carry the thing home, find a place to stash it, etc. - there are costs involved in addition to the price).</p><p>So no. Even for free, I wouldn't have a use for it. The whole netbook thing is pointless anyways and will soon blow over.</p></div><p>You may not want a netbook, but I think there is demand.</p><p>For myself, it would be handy to have something small and portable that can browse the web.  It'd be handy for checking email while on the road...  But it would also be nice to have something small and lightweight that was able to bring up a webUI on a router - so I don't have to balance my laptop on top of the ladder with me in the wiring closet.  The ability to read PDFs or such would be very nice as well.</p><p>For Joe Sixpack...  Let's be honest, most folks see a computer as essentially disposable already.  I don't know how many people I hear from who just buy some $300 special at WalMart or Sam's Club around Christmas time...  They'll use it for about a year and then replace it because the thing was crap to begin with and is now full of garbage.  If they can get a free (or very cheap) netbook and use it to log into Facebook and check their email, I'm sure there'll be tons of demand.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would I want a netbook , free or not ?
You have to have demand first before you think of price , and even at price 0 , demand is not infinite ( you 've got to carry the thing home , find a place to stash it , etc .
- there are costs involved in addition to the price ) .So no .
Even for free , I would n't have a use for it .
The whole netbook thing is pointless anyways and will soon blow over.You may not want a netbook , but I think there is demand.For myself , it would be handy to have something small and portable that can browse the web .
It 'd be handy for checking email while on the road... But it would also be nice to have something small and lightweight that was able to bring up a webUI on a router - so I do n't have to balance my laptop on top of the ladder with me in the wiring closet .
The ability to read PDFs or such would be very nice as well.For Joe Sixpack... Let 's be honest , most folks see a computer as essentially disposable already .
I do n't know how many people I hear from who just buy some $ 300 special at WalMart or Sam 's Club around Christmas time... They 'll use it for about a year and then replace it because the thing was crap to begin with and is now full of garbage .
If they can get a free ( or very cheap ) netbook and use it to log into Facebook and check their email , I 'm sure there 'll be tons of demand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would I want a netbook, free or not?
You have to have demand first before you think of price, and even at price 0, demand is not infinite (you've got to carry the thing home, find a place to stash it, etc.
- there are costs involved in addition to the price).So no.
Even for free, I wouldn't have a use for it.
The whole netbook thing is pointless anyways and will soon blow over.You may not want a netbook, but I think there is demand.For myself, it would be handy to have something small and portable that can browse the web.
It'd be handy for checking email while on the road...  But it would also be nice to have something small and lightweight that was able to bring up a webUI on a router - so I don't have to balance my laptop on top of the ladder with me in the wiring closet.
The ability to read PDFs or such would be very nice as well.For Joe Sixpack...  Let's be honest, most folks see a computer as essentially disposable already.
I don't know how many people I hear from who just buy some $300 special at WalMart or Sam's Club around Christmas time...  They'll use it for about a year and then replace it because the thing was crap to begin with and is now full of garbage.
If they can get a free (or very cheap) netbook and use it to log into Facebook and check their email, I'm sure there'll be tons of demand.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214286</id>
	<title>Would you accept a free Google netbook?</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1259080740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure, as long as it wasn't too difficult to wipe it and install Debian.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , as long as it was n't too difficult to wipe it and install Debian .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, as long as it wasn't too difficult to wipe it and install Debian.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215766</id>
	<title>Not a car analogy, but close.</title>
	<author>Loosifur</author>
	<datestamp>1259086560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Would you live in a house for free if the walls had to be transparent?</p><p>And this might be an even more pertinent question: when was the last time you clicked on an ad in Gmail?</p><p>I'm sure there's a market for this among the stereotypical little old ladies emailing their grandchildren, etc., but I don't think it would take off. People like owning things, not using them with Google's permission.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would you live in a house for free if the walls had to be transparent ? And this might be an even more pertinent question : when was the last time you clicked on an ad in Gmail ? I 'm sure there 's a market for this among the stereotypical little old ladies emailing their grandchildren , etc. , but I do n't think it would take off .
People like owning things , not using them with Google 's permission .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would you live in a house for free if the walls had to be transparent?And this might be an even more pertinent question: when was the last time you clicked on an ad in Gmail?I'm sure there's a market for this among the stereotypical little old ladies emailing their grandchildren, etc., but I don't think it would take off.
People like owning things, not using them with Google's permission.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216408</id>
	<title>Re:from an ignoramus on all things Chrome OS</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1259089560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>But Chrome OS? I understand netbooks will run slightly faster with linux or some lightweight variant than with Windows XP, but really, the hardware's the limitation here, not the OS.</p></div></blockquote><p>The big deal, as I see it, with Chrome OS isn't that the OS is so much more efficient, but things like the UI model (which isn't finalized and there are several possible directions), the security model designed to support both owner control and easy "pass-around" sharing without compromising things that should be secure, etc.</p><p><i>Browser</i> speed is, of course, a focus of the Chromium projects (both the Chromium browser and the Chromium OS operating system and its specialized derivative of the browser), but really that's just part of the user experience focus in Chromium OS.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But Chrome OS ?
I understand netbooks will run slightly faster with linux or some lightweight variant than with Windows XP , but really , the hardware 's the limitation here , not the OS.The big deal , as I see it , with Chrome OS is n't that the OS is so much more efficient , but things like the UI model ( which is n't finalized and there are several possible directions ) , the security model designed to support both owner control and easy " pass-around " sharing without compromising things that should be secure , etc.Browser speed is , of course , a focus of the Chromium projects ( both the Chromium browser and the Chromium OS operating system and its specialized derivative of the browser ) , but really that 's just part of the user experience focus in Chromium OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But Chrome OS?
I understand netbooks will run slightly faster with linux or some lightweight variant than with Windows XP, but really, the hardware's the limitation here, not the OS.The big deal, as I see it, with Chrome OS isn't that the OS is so much more efficient, but things like the UI model (which isn't finalized and there are several possible directions), the security model designed to support both owner control and easy "pass-around" sharing without compromising things that should be secure, etc.Browser speed is, of course, a focus of the Chromium projects (both the Chromium browser and the Chromium OS operating system and its specialized derivative of the browser), but really that's just part of the user experience focus in Chromium OS.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214388</id>
	<title>please</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259081100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>are the goods and services offered by google, really more valuable than the computer they are offered on?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>are the goods and services offered by google , really more valuable than the computer they are offered on ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>are the goods and services offered by google, really more valuable than the computer they are offered on?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214306</id>
	<title>Google changing mobile computing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259080740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This strategy might work if Google really is serious about changing mobile computing.  They have the money to fund something like this (maybe even subsidizing netbooks would work).  I would certainly accept a netbook with advertising if it was free, because, hell, it's free!
<br> <br>
Even if it was subisidized at say $50, I would be willing to buy it. Any more then that and I would have to pass.
<br> <br>
I watched the demo of Chrome OS that was posted on youtube, and from the presentation they really think Chrome OS will change the "paradigm" of computing. If they actually fund it by giving people free netbooks with chrome os installed, well, that's going to make it a LOT easier to change how we think of computing!<br> <br>
Unrelated note: I really find the browser-OS model fascinating.  In a way, the presenter was correct: we really do most of our computing activities online (especially when mobile), and if the internet isnt there it's kind of pointless.  I think the real issue will be offline application access, which hopefully will be solved by the upcoming HTML 5 Offline capabilities.  All in all this is definitely going to be interesting to watch in the next year, but I'm not going to really obsess about it until Google comes out with a final product *snicker*.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This strategy might work if Google really is serious about changing mobile computing .
They have the money to fund something like this ( maybe even subsidizing netbooks would work ) .
I would certainly accept a netbook with advertising if it was free , because , hell , it 's free !
Even if it was subisidized at say $ 50 , I would be willing to buy it .
Any more then that and I would have to pass .
I watched the demo of Chrome OS that was posted on youtube , and from the presentation they really think Chrome OS will change the " paradigm " of computing .
If they actually fund it by giving people free netbooks with chrome os installed , well , that 's going to make it a LOT easier to change how we think of computing !
Unrelated note : I really find the browser-OS model fascinating .
In a way , the presenter was correct : we really do most of our computing activities online ( especially when mobile ) , and if the internet isnt there it 's kind of pointless .
I think the real issue will be offline application access , which hopefully will be solved by the upcoming HTML 5 Offline capabilities .
All in all this is definitely going to be interesting to watch in the next year , but I 'm not going to really obsess about it until Google comes out with a final product * snicker * .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This strategy might work if Google really is serious about changing mobile computing.
They have the money to fund something like this (maybe even subsidizing netbooks would work).
I would certainly accept a netbook with advertising if it was free, because, hell, it's free!
Even if it was subisidized at say $50, I would be willing to buy it.
Any more then that and I would have to pass.
I watched the demo of Chrome OS that was posted on youtube, and from the presentation they really think Chrome OS will change the "paradigm" of computing.
If they actually fund it by giving people free netbooks with chrome os installed, well, that's going to make it a LOT easier to change how we think of computing!
Unrelated note: I really find the browser-OS model fascinating.
In a way, the presenter was correct: we really do most of our computing activities online (especially when mobile), and if the internet isnt there it's kind of pointless.
I think the real issue will be offline application access, which hopefully will be solved by the upcoming HTML 5 Offline capabilities.
All in all this is definitely going to be interesting to watch in the next year, but I'm not going to really obsess about it until Google comes out with a final product *snicker*.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215016</id>
	<title>Re:Pay</title>
	<author>karcirate</author>
	<datestamp>1259083500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you are willing to pay, why not just buy your own netbook?</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you are willing to pay , why not just buy your own netbook ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you are willing to pay, why not just buy your own netbook?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215694</id>
	<title>Re:A free \_netbook\_?</title>
	<author>aztracker1</author>
	<datestamp>1259086200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know that I'd care for it, as it is, I'm running small icons, and the personal toolbar plugin for firefox, so I can reduce the vertical footprint a little more, which helps (also disabling bookmark toolbar) on my current netbook at 1024x600)...  The ads would probably have to be a 2 second tab-out, a slider to take most of it off screen after a couple seconds, with a tab in case you're actually interested to not interfere with the usability of anything.  I've been to enough sites lately where I have to use alt+F11/fullscreen mode to even close the stupid pop-overs on some sites.  With the popularity of netbooks, sites &amp; apps really need to be tested in 1024x450 viewports.  It's almost a shame, if 1280x800 were the standard for more netbooks it'd be less of an issue... though I wonder if a low-rez version targetted to mobile platforms might be a better fit for netbooks that full-blown sites.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know that I 'd care for it , as it is , I 'm running small icons , and the personal toolbar plugin for firefox , so I can reduce the vertical footprint a little more , which helps ( also disabling bookmark toolbar ) on my current netbook at 1024x600 ) ... The ads would probably have to be a 2 second tab-out , a slider to take most of it off screen after a couple seconds , with a tab in case you 're actually interested to not interfere with the usability of anything .
I 've been to enough sites lately where I have to use alt + F11/fullscreen mode to even close the stupid pop-overs on some sites .
With the popularity of netbooks , sites &amp; apps really need to be tested in 1024x450 viewports .
It 's almost a shame , if 1280x800 were the standard for more netbooks it 'd be less of an issue... though I wonder if a low-rez version targetted to mobile platforms might be a better fit for netbooks that full-blown sites .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know that I'd care for it, as it is, I'm running small icons, and the personal toolbar plugin for firefox, so I can reduce the vertical footprint a little more, which helps (also disabling bookmark toolbar) on my current netbook at 1024x600)...  The ads would probably have to be a 2 second tab-out, a slider to take most of it off screen after a couple seconds, with a tab in case you're actually interested to not interfere with the usability of anything.
I've been to enough sites lately where I have to use alt+F11/fullscreen mode to even close the stupid pop-overs on some sites.
With the popularity of netbooks, sites &amp; apps really need to be tested in 1024x450 viewports.
It's almost a shame, if 1280x800 were the standard for more netbooks it'd be less of an issue... though I wonder if a low-rez version targetted to mobile platforms might be a better fit for netbooks that full-blown sites.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30228840</id>
	<title>iOpener?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257191100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Remember that, Google?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Remember that , Google ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remember that, Google?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215600</id>
	<title>Re:No I won't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259085840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't that what Google Gears is for, and then money they've been throwing at Mozilla? To allow online apps to be used offline? It would seem that Google saw your point of view 2-3 years ago and the fact that ChromeOS is still a year a way could be indicative of them waiting for all the technology to be in place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't that what Google Gears is for , and then money they 've been throwing at Mozilla ?
To allow online apps to be used offline ?
It would seem that Google saw your point of view 2-3 years ago and the fact that ChromeOS is still a year a way could be indicative of them waiting for all the technology to be in place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't that what Google Gears is for, and then money they've been throwing at Mozilla?
To allow online apps to be used offline?
It would seem that Google saw your point of view 2-3 years ago and the fact that ChromeOS is still a year a way could be indicative of them waiting for all the technology to be in place.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214986</id>
	<title>why give space</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259083380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why give space to this Microsoft astroturfer on slashdot ?<br> <br>


RWW's Sarah Perez: <a href="http://bx.businessweek.com/web-development/view?url=http\%3A\%2F\%2Ftakethe5th.com\%2Fwp\%2F\%3Fp\%3D557" title="businessweek.com" rel="nofollow">Microsoft Hitwoman</a> [businessweek.com]?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why give space to this Microsoft astroturfer on slashdot ?
RWW 's Sarah Perez : Microsoft Hitwoman [ businessweek.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why give space to this Microsoft astroturfer on slashdot ?
RWW's Sarah Perez: Microsoft Hitwoman [businessweek.com]?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214894</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>Lord Bitman</author>
	<datestamp>1259083080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your attention is worth $150 an hour, and you can't even focus it enough to ignore ads you don't care about? Shit, mine must be worth BILLIONS!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your attention is worth $ 150 an hour , and you ca n't even focus it enough to ignore ads you do n't care about ?
Shit , mine must be worth BILLIONS !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your attention is worth $150 an hour, and you can't even focus it enough to ignore ads you don't care about?
Shit, mine must be worth BILLIONS!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215084</id>
	<title>$10 - 20 manufacturing cost, NOT!</title>
	<author>richardkelleher</author>
	<datestamp>1259083740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even purchased in quantity from Chinese manufacturers using prison labor, a 9 or 10 inch display panel would be more than $10 by itself.  I'd guess over 20.  I mean, you have to pay off the local officials and the prison officials, provide some profit to the corporation, there's the overhead for the factory, proper disposal of toxic waste, no wait, forget the last one.  Oh there are the actual materials, can't forget those. If OLPC couldn't keep their costs down below $100, I don't see a netbook coming in under that.  Maybe closer to $150 with shipping and everything.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even purchased in quantity from Chinese manufacturers using prison labor , a 9 or 10 inch display panel would be more than $ 10 by itself .
I 'd guess over 20 .
I mean , you have to pay off the local officials and the prison officials , provide some profit to the corporation , there 's the overhead for the factory , proper disposal of toxic waste , no wait , forget the last one .
Oh there are the actual materials , ca n't forget those .
If OLPC could n't keep their costs down below $ 100 , I do n't see a netbook coming in under that .
Maybe closer to $ 150 with shipping and everything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even purchased in quantity from Chinese manufacturers using prison labor, a 9 or 10 inch display panel would be more than $10 by itself.
I'd guess over 20.
I mean, you have to pay off the local officials and the prison officials, provide some profit to the corporation, there's the overhead for the factory, proper disposal of toxic waste, no wait, forget the last one.
Oh there are the actual materials, can't forget those.
If OLPC couldn't keep their costs down below $100, I don't see a netbook coming in under that.
Maybe closer to $150 with shipping and everything.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214974</id>
	<title>Re:I wouldn't, but not for privacy concerns</title>
	<author>MozeeToby</author>
	<datestamp>1259083320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Chromium isn't about a target user, it's about a target <b>use</b>.  I'm also the developer, gamer, video editor type; that doesn't mean a netbook wouldn't come in handy for other things.  My wife and I fight over the laptop all the time but I refuse to spend the money on a second one, a free netbook (even if all it could do was browse the web) would be very welcome.</p><p>That being said, it'll never happen.  As someone up above pointed out, a single user isn't worth hundreds of dollars to Google, and it would only be a matter of time before someone figures out how to load custom software and hardware onto the thing.  The article should be tagged with 'baseless speculation', that's all it is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Chromium is n't about a target user , it 's about a target use .
I 'm also the developer , gamer , video editor type ; that does n't mean a netbook would n't come in handy for other things .
My wife and I fight over the laptop all the time but I refuse to spend the money on a second one , a free netbook ( even if all it could do was browse the web ) would be very welcome.That being said , it 'll never happen .
As someone up above pointed out , a single user is n't worth hundreds of dollars to Google , and it would only be a matter of time before someone figures out how to load custom software and hardware onto the thing .
The article should be tagged with 'baseless speculation ' , that 's all it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Chromium isn't about a target user, it's about a target use.
I'm also the developer, gamer, video editor type; that doesn't mean a netbook wouldn't come in handy for other things.
My wife and I fight over the laptop all the time but I refuse to spend the money on a second one, a free netbook (even if all it could do was browse the web) would be very welcome.That being said, it'll never happen.
As someone up above pointed out, a single user isn't worth hundreds of dollars to Google, and it would only be a matter of time before someone figures out how to load custom software and hardware onto the thing.
The article should be tagged with 'baseless speculation', that's all it is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30296040</id>
	<title>Cheap?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259588280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A 'google netbook' would be extremely cheap, because as other people have said the price of hardware has come down a lot.</p><p>They could ditch a lot of the hardware used in existing netbooks, and get the cheapest possible alternatives to the hardware they still need.</p><p>As for advertising, I'd be happy with a giant "GOOGLE" logo on the back, and even a non-intrusive advert (the thin text one) along the top or something?</p><p>It's a free netbook, if you want anything for free, you have to compromise. Netbook don't just make themselves!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A 'google netbook ' would be extremely cheap , because as other people have said the price of hardware has come down a lot.They could ditch a lot of the hardware used in existing netbooks , and get the cheapest possible alternatives to the hardware they still need.As for advertising , I 'd be happy with a giant " GOOGLE " logo on the back , and even a non-intrusive advert ( the thin text one ) along the top or something ? It 's a free netbook , if you want anything for free , you have to compromise .
Netbook do n't just make themselves !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A 'google netbook' would be extremely cheap, because as other people have said the price of hardware has come down a lot.They could ditch a lot of the hardware used in existing netbooks, and get the cheapest possible alternatives to the hardware they still need.As for advertising, I'd be happy with a giant "GOOGLE" logo on the back, and even a non-intrusive advert (the thin text one) along the top or something?It's a free netbook, if you want anything for free, you have to compromise.
Netbook don't just make themselves!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30222476</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>dspratomo</author>
	<datestamp>1259080500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agreed, even less on ARM processor. <a href="http://techvideoblog.com/reviews/80-android-laptop-menq-easypc-e790/" title="techvideoblog.com" rel="nofollow">http://techvideoblog.com/reviews/80-android-laptop-menq-easypc-e790/</a> [techvideoblog.com]. There's still a possibility that google will port it's Chrome+Android to this platform.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed , even less on ARM processor .
http : //techvideoblog.com/reviews/80-android-laptop-menq-easypc-e790/ [ techvideoblog.com ] .
There 's still a possibility that google will port it 's Chrome + Android to this platform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed, even less on ARM processor.
http://techvideoblog.com/reviews/80-android-laptop-menq-easypc-e790/ [techvideoblog.com].
There's still a possibility that google will port it's Chrome+Android to this platform.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215108</id>
	<title>Sure I would</title>
	<author>Wint3rhart</author>
	<datestamp>1259083800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If someone's giving away free computers, of any sort, I'm in on principle - at least for initial testing.  Without seeing the OS up close and personally, I can't say whether I'd use it for any extended period of time.

Added to that, assuming that Chromium OS does indeed check out and I've found a use for a lightweight web-driven PC (and I do have a use in mind), I'm going to need a touchscreen with this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If someone 's giving away free computers , of any sort , I 'm in on principle - at least for initial testing .
Without seeing the OS up close and personally , I ca n't say whether I 'd use it for any extended period of time .
Added to that , assuming that Chromium OS does indeed check out and I 've found a use for a lightweight web-driven PC ( and I do have a use in mind ) , I 'm going to need a touchscreen with this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If someone's giving away free computers, of any sort, I'm in on principle - at least for initial testing.
Without seeing the OS up close and personally, I can't say whether I'd use it for any extended period of time.
Added to that, assuming that Chromium OS does indeed check out and I've found a use for a lightweight web-driven PC (and I do have a use in mind), I'm going to need a touchscreen with this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30218774</id>
	<title>Yes.</title>
	<author>Mister LinOx</author>
	<datestamp>1259057700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Of course I would. It's opensource, by Google, and it's a close relative of Linux. Sure it may not be the best, but it would be free. Sign me up!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course I would .
It 's opensource , by Google , and it 's a close relative of Linux .
Sure it may not be the best , but it would be free .
Sign me up !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course I would.
It's opensource, by Google, and it's a close relative of Linux.
Sure it may not be the best, but it would be free.
Sign me up!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216244</id>
	<title>Re:ideal for my 2 year old</title>
	<author>nexttech</author>
	<datestamp>1259088960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You have hit on an important point.  No OS is perfect for all users.  I love the idea of a free Google Netbook.  I have started my kids using Google Apps.  Why,  because I do not have to worry about operating systems.  I can cheaply build a linux system for them using cheap hardware simply because all I really need is a browser.  Combine this with Google Gears for those rare times the Internet is down and you have a very productive system.<br> <br>
This way if my kids want to work at the library, home or school everything is right there.
<br> <br>
So as far as a free Google Netbook I'll take one for each member of my family.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You have hit on an important point .
No OS is perfect for all users .
I love the idea of a free Google Netbook .
I have started my kids using Google Apps .
Why , because I do not have to worry about operating systems .
I can cheaply build a linux system for them using cheap hardware simply because all I really need is a browser .
Combine this with Google Gears for those rare times the Internet is down and you have a very productive system .
This way if my kids want to work at the library , home or school everything is right there .
So as far as a free Google Netbook I 'll take one for each member of my family .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have hit on an important point.
No OS is perfect for all users.
I love the idea of a free Google Netbook.
I have started my kids using Google Apps.
Why,  because I do not have to worry about operating systems.
I can cheaply build a linux system for them using cheap hardware simply because all I really need is a browser.
Combine this with Google Gears for those rare times the Internet is down and you have a very productive system.
This way if my kids want to work at the library, home or school everything is right there.
So as far as a free Google Netbook I'll take one for each member of my family.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30234852</id>
	<title>my take (not that you care)</title>
	<author>Nyder</author>
	<datestamp>1259228340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First, I'd like to say, free hardware?  fuck ya!</p><p>Some peeps are saying they would lose money on them.</p><p>Yes, they would.   But thats a marketing style.   They are looking over the long term, not short term.</p><p>You get a google netbook.  You'll most likely be running ChromeOS, so they just took a sale away from MS.<br>your going to use it as a browser, to use internet apps.   Which is oddly enough what google is pushing.</p><p>This is a way of them locking down customers.   and honestly, I approve.</p><p>You don't like the ads, don't take the device.   Or if your into hardware hacking, nothings better then free hardware.</p><p>and people, netbooks are "net" books.  basicly a modern terminal.   These are not laptop replacements.  I'm sure most of you realise that, but damn there's a lot of peeps who don't understand that concept...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First , I 'd like to say , free hardware ?
fuck ya ! Some peeps are saying they would lose money on them.Yes , they would .
But thats a marketing style .
They are looking over the long term , not short term.You get a google netbook .
You 'll most likely be running ChromeOS , so they just took a sale away from MS.your going to use it as a browser , to use internet apps .
Which is oddly enough what google is pushing.This is a way of them locking down customers .
and honestly , I approve.You do n't like the ads , do n't take the device .
Or if your into hardware hacking , nothings better then free hardware.and people , netbooks are " net " books .
basicly a modern terminal .
These are not laptop replacements .
I 'm sure most of you realise that , but damn there 's a lot of peeps who do n't understand that concept.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First, I'd like to say, free hardware?
fuck ya!Some peeps are saying they would lose money on them.Yes, they would.
But thats a marketing style.
They are looking over the long term, not short term.You get a google netbook.
You'll most likely be running ChromeOS, so they just took a sale away from MS.your going to use it as a browser, to use internet apps.
Which is oddly enough what google is pushing.This is a way of them locking down customers.
and honestly, I approve.You don't like the ads, don't take the device.
Or if your into hardware hacking, nothings better then free hardware.and people, netbooks are "net" books.
basicly a modern terminal.
These are not laptop replacements.
I'm sure most of you realise that, but damn there's a lot of peeps who don't understand that concept...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215816</id>
	<title>Re:A free \_netbook\_?</title>
	<author>unixguy43</author>
	<datestamp>1259086860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Agreed-  As a tool that I could use in order to access some of my non-critical data on the fly, it would be useful.  I wouldn't want to use it as a replacement for my desktop or laptop systems though.  I use my Google G1 in that capacity now, but it would be nice to have a little more functionality than what can be provided over a small Android device.  The obvious problem that I would see with it is battery life.  As a portable tool, it doesn't have much value if I'd need to be tied to an electrical outlet 50\% of the time in order to make use of it.

For checking e-mail and Facebook, or surfing the CNN page, or checking out the sports scores, or even modifying and sending out a resume, I see this as something that I would use.  I wouldn't want to do my banking or make online purchases with it though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed- As a tool that I could use in order to access some of my non-critical data on the fly , it would be useful .
I would n't want to use it as a replacement for my desktop or laptop systems though .
I use my Google G1 in that capacity now , but it would be nice to have a little more functionality than what can be provided over a small Android device .
The obvious problem that I would see with it is battery life .
As a portable tool , it does n't have much value if I 'd need to be tied to an electrical outlet 50 \ % of the time in order to make use of it .
For checking e-mail and Facebook , or surfing the CNN page , or checking out the sports scores , or even modifying and sending out a resume , I see this as something that I would use .
I would n't want to do my banking or make online purchases with it though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed-  As a tool that I could use in order to access some of my non-critical data on the fly, it would be useful.
I wouldn't want to use it as a replacement for my desktop or laptop systems though.
I use my Google G1 in that capacity now, but it would be nice to have a little more functionality than what can be provided over a small Android device.
The obvious problem that I would see with it is battery life.
As a portable tool, it doesn't have much value if I'd need to be tied to an electrical outlet 50\% of the time in order to make use of it.
For checking e-mail and Facebook, or surfing the CNN page, or checking out the sports scores, or even modifying and sending out a resume, I see this as something that I would use.
I wouldn't want to do my banking or make online purchases with it though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214238</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214402</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259081160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd never use such an adware computer. My attention is worth far more than $150, more like 150$ AN HOUR.</p><p>And I haven't even said anything about privacy yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd never use such an adware computer .
My attention is worth far more than $ 150 , more like 150 $ AN HOUR.And I have n't even said anything about privacy yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd never use such an adware computer.
My attention is worth far more than $150, more like 150$ AN HOUR.And I haven't even said anything about privacy yet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214182</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30220570</id>
	<title>Was the lesson of CueCat not learned?</title>
	<author>erroneus</author>
	<datestamp>1259065920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does anyone not remember or know about the cuecat?  It was this neat barcode scanner thing that would be used to scan items in advertisements to send users to web pages for product information and such.  The CueCats were free and all over the net appeared discussions and howto-s on disabling the encryption/serial number information so it could be used as an ordinary barcode reader.</p><p>The problem?  The devices were free.  Once they entered your possession, you could do anything you want with them.  Same would be true of a free Google Netbook.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone not remember or know about the cuecat ?
It was this neat barcode scanner thing that would be used to scan items in advertisements to send users to web pages for product information and such .
The CueCats were free and all over the net appeared discussions and howto-s on disabling the encryption/serial number information so it could be used as an ordinary barcode reader.The problem ?
The devices were free .
Once they entered your possession , you could do anything you want with them .
Same would be true of a free Google Netbook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone not remember or know about the cuecat?
It was this neat barcode scanner thing that would be used to scan items in advertisements to send users to web pages for product information and such.
The CueCats were free and all over the net appeared discussions and howto-s on disabling the encryption/serial number information so it could be used as an ordinary barcode reader.The problem?
The devices were free.
Once they entered your possession, you could do anything you want with them.
Same would be true of a free Google Netbook.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215322</id>
	<title>Re:A free \_netbook\_?</title>
	<author>digitig</author>
	<datestamp>1259084640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It looks ideal for <a href="http://ask.slashdot.org/story/09/11/24/0248240/Geek-Travel-To-London-From-the-US-mdash-Tips" title="slashdot.org">this guy</a> [slashdot.org].</htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks ideal for this guy [ slashdot.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks ideal for this guy [slashdot.org].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214238</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215642</id>
	<title>Re:Duhhh</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1259086020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'd take several dozen, probably hundreds... hardware can't be given away. I think.... I'd wallpaper my house with monitors. I'm sure I could make a nice server/web ap to run all the buggers even if I couldn't take the hardware apart.</p><p>Basically, the idea is impossible and stupid.</p></div><p>Limit 1 per customer.</p><p>Not available locally, have to sign up on-line with a unique name/phone number/address that it will be shipped to - so they can make sure you aren't abusing things too badly.</p><p>They used to give away all sorts of goodies when you opened a new bank account...  They were even giving away iPods at one of the local banks for a while.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd take several dozen , probably hundreds... hardware ca n't be given away .
I think.... I 'd wallpaper my house with monitors .
I 'm sure I could make a nice server/web ap to run all the buggers even if I could n't take the hardware apart.Basically , the idea is impossible and stupid.Limit 1 per customer.Not available locally , have to sign up on-line with a unique name/phone number/address that it will be shipped to - so they can make sure you are n't abusing things too badly.They used to give away all sorts of goodies when you opened a new bank account... They were even giving away iPods at one of the local banks for a while .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd take several dozen, probably hundreds... hardware can't be given away.
I think.... I'd wallpaper my house with monitors.
I'm sure I could make a nice server/web ap to run all the buggers even if I couldn't take the hardware apart.Basically, the idea is impossible and stupid.Limit 1 per customer.Not available locally, have to sign up on-line with a unique name/phone number/address that it will be shipped to - so they can make sure you aren't abusing things too badly.They used to give away all sorts of goodies when you opened a new bank account...  They were even giving away iPods at one of the local banks for a while.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215268</id>
	<title>It won't be a netbook, it will be a smartphone</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259084460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It will be a smartphone, and they don't need chromeOS, they already have Android. And Voice Central.</p><p>Free phone, free calls, free mobile internet, just accept targeted ads. And targeted ads will be so convinient you will want them.</p><p>Let's say you are close to a restaurant, your GPS phone hasn't detected that you have stopped anywhere close to a restaurant during your usual eating hours, so you are tagged as "Not fed yet". That restaurant can pay google a high rate for advertise to "Not fed yet" customers in it's neighborhood. You won't mind receiving a google voucher for a restaurant, after all, they pay for your phone bills.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It will be a smartphone , and they do n't need chromeOS , they already have Android .
And Voice Central.Free phone , free calls , free mobile internet , just accept targeted ads .
And targeted ads will be so convinient you will want them.Let 's say you are close to a restaurant , your GPS phone has n't detected that you have stopped anywhere close to a restaurant during your usual eating hours , so you are tagged as " Not fed yet " .
That restaurant can pay google a high rate for advertise to " Not fed yet " customers in it 's neighborhood .
You wo n't mind receiving a google voucher for a restaurant , after all , they pay for your phone bills .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will be a smartphone, and they don't need chromeOS, they already have Android.
And Voice Central.Free phone, free calls, free mobile internet, just accept targeted ads.
And targeted ads will be so convinient you will want them.Let's say you are close to a restaurant, your GPS phone hasn't detected that you have stopped anywhere close to a restaurant during your usual eating hours, so you are tagged as "Not fed yet".
That restaurant can pay google a high rate for advertise to "Not fed yet" customers in it's neighborhood.
You won't mind receiving a google voucher for a restaurant, after all, they pay for your phone bills.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215030</id>
	<title>Re:No I won't</title>
	<author>godrik</author>
	<datestamp>1259083560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I need to update my blog or do IM, I need a real keyboard. If I need a real keyboard, than I prefer using a netbook that can work offline. Because I am going to be offline some times and it would be a waste to have 2 netbooks one for being online and one for being offline. I can have a powered-by-free-software that I can update/tune to my needs so I won't use google's one for that</p><p>If the machine is intended to be a portable internet device then nokia has really good hardware and I am actually using a N810. I am enjoying it both online and offline. I am enjoying being able to write software for it and get a full unix compatibility. I even have a very compatible webbrowser for web applications. So I am not going to use a google-locked platform.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>You want total control over all your software on a free machine?</p></div><p>I just say I prefer a free-as-in-speech machine over free-as-in-beer because my freedom worth the 300 bucks I will put in it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I suspect a tool like this would be perfect for older people who just want to e-mail their kids/grandkids</p></div><p>Those people are not me. The question is "would you use such a machine ?" and my answer is "no, I won't". If the question was "will some people use it ?", then the answer is "sure, a lot of people will".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I need to update my blog or do IM , I need a real keyboard .
If I need a real keyboard , than I prefer using a netbook that can work offline .
Because I am going to be offline some times and it would be a waste to have 2 netbooks one for being online and one for being offline .
I can have a powered-by-free-software that I can update/tune to my needs so I wo n't use google 's one for thatIf the machine is intended to be a portable internet device then nokia has really good hardware and I am actually using a N810 .
I am enjoying it both online and offline .
I am enjoying being able to write software for it and get a full unix compatibility .
I even have a very compatible webbrowser for web applications .
So I am not going to use a google-locked platform.You want total control over all your software on a free machine ? I just say I prefer a free-as-in-speech machine over free-as-in-beer because my freedom worth the 300 bucks I will put in it.I suspect a tool like this would be perfect for older people who just want to e-mail their kids/grandkidsThose people are not me .
The question is " would you use such a machine ?
" and my answer is " no , I wo n't " .
If the question was " will some people use it ?
" , then the answer is " sure , a lot of people will " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I need to update my blog or do IM, I need a real keyboard.
If I need a real keyboard, than I prefer using a netbook that can work offline.
Because I am going to be offline some times and it would be a waste to have 2 netbooks one for being online and one for being offline.
I can have a powered-by-free-software that I can update/tune to my needs so I won't use google's one for thatIf the machine is intended to be a portable internet device then nokia has really good hardware and I am actually using a N810.
I am enjoying it both online and offline.
I am enjoying being able to write software for it and get a full unix compatibility.
I even have a very compatible webbrowser for web applications.
So I am not going to use a google-locked platform.You want total control over all your software on a free machine?I just say I prefer a free-as-in-speech machine over free-as-in-beer because my freedom worth the 300 bucks I will put in it.I suspect a tool like this would be perfect for older people who just want to e-mail their kids/grandkidsThose people are not me.
The question is "would you use such a machine ?
" and my answer is "no, I won't".
If the question was "will some people use it ?
", then the answer is "sure, a lot of people will".
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214534</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214852</id>
	<title>I wouldn't. . . not yet</title>
	<author>bjd145</author>
	<datestamp>1259083020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wouldn't be then again after playing around with Chromium OS for the past couple of days, I've found it very limiting. And I'm not talking about PhotoShop or stuff like that. My reasons are</p><p>1. I have TBs of data. Only about 10\% of it is in the cloud so most of my data would be unavailable to me. Even if I could nfs mount a volume what I am going to use to view my images and videos? A browser?  Weak in my opinion.<br>2. I have a netbook right now and one of the best uses for it is Skype video. Right now I don't see anything in the plans to support something like this.<br>3. Another use that I have for my netbook is as a eBook reader. Will Amazon or B&amp;N release readers for this platform?</p><p>One thing that I wonder is if Google will release a port of Adobe Aire. Another thing that I miss in Chrome OS are the Twitter and Remember the Milke aire apps that have the data in the cloud but have functionality way beyond what a web page can do (even with HTML5)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't be then again after playing around with Chromium OS for the past couple of days , I 've found it very limiting .
And I 'm not talking about PhotoShop or stuff like that .
My reasons are1 .
I have TBs of data .
Only about 10 \ % of it is in the cloud so most of my data would be unavailable to me .
Even if I could nfs mount a volume what I am going to use to view my images and videos ?
A browser ?
Weak in my opinion.2 .
I have a netbook right now and one of the best uses for it is Skype video .
Right now I do n't see anything in the plans to support something like this.3 .
Another use that I have for my netbook is as a eBook reader .
Will Amazon or B&amp;N release readers for this platform ? One thing that I wonder is if Google will release a port of Adobe Aire .
Another thing that I miss in Chrome OS are the Twitter and Remember the Milke aire apps that have the data in the cloud but have functionality way beyond what a web page can do ( even with HTML5 )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't be then again after playing around with Chromium OS for the past couple of days, I've found it very limiting.
And I'm not talking about PhotoShop or stuff like that.
My reasons are1.
I have TBs of data.
Only about 10\% of it is in the cloud so most of my data would be unavailable to me.
Even if I could nfs mount a volume what I am going to use to view my images and videos?
A browser?
Weak in my opinion.2.
I have a netbook right now and one of the best uses for it is Skype video.
Right now I don't see anything in the plans to support something like this.3.
Another use that I have for my netbook is as a eBook reader.
Will Amazon or B&amp;N release readers for this platform?One thing that I wonder is if Google will release a port of Adobe Aire.
Another thing that I miss in Chrome OS are the Twitter and Remember the Milke aire apps that have the data in the cloud but have functionality way beyond what a web page can do (even with HTML5)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214932</id>
	<title>Absolutely would use one</title>
	<author>jebrew</author>
	<datestamp>1259083200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hells yeah I'd use one.  I'd keep it in my bag and use it when I'm out and need to give lengthy responses to e-mails, stuck somewhere and want to watch some netflix (maybe...if netflix moves away from silverlight to html5) or hulu or something.  I've got a million places I'd use this.  It'd be basically a larger version of my Android phone.  Sometimes the phone is just a little cramped and I'd like a little more screen real estate...also, Google, if you're reading this, I could also totally make use of an electric car that's ad supported...I'm just sayin'.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hells yeah I 'd use one .
I 'd keep it in my bag and use it when I 'm out and need to give lengthy responses to e-mails , stuck somewhere and want to watch some netflix ( maybe...if netflix moves away from silverlight to html5 ) or hulu or something .
I 've got a million places I 'd use this .
It 'd be basically a larger version of my Android phone .
Sometimes the phone is just a little cramped and I 'd like a little more screen real estate...also , Google , if you 're reading this , I could also totally make use of an electric car that 's ad supported...I 'm just sayin' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hells yeah I'd use one.
I'd keep it in my bag and use it when I'm out and need to give lengthy responses to e-mails, stuck somewhere and want to watch some netflix (maybe...if netflix moves away from silverlight to html5) or hulu or something.
I've got a million places I'd use this.
It'd be basically a larger version of my Android phone.
Sometimes the phone is just a little cramped and I'd like a little more screen real estate...also, Google, if you're reading this, I could also totally make use of an electric car that's ad supported...I'm just sayin'.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30217810</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>xonicx</author>
	<datestamp>1259053200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>May be google netbooks are small servers running on user's electricity and Internet bandwidth to serve other users.</htmltext>
<tokenext>May be google netbooks are small servers running on user 's electricity and Internet bandwidth to serve other users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>May be google netbooks are small servers running on user's electricity and Internet bandwidth to serve other users.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214278</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259080680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If it had free 3g, ala kindle, I'd plop down even $200 for one in a heartbeat.

If it only had WiFi... sure, if it were free. I could easily find a use for it, but it wouldn't be nearly as useful.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it had free 3g , ala kindle , I 'd plop down even $ 200 for one in a heartbeat .
If it only had WiFi... sure , if it were free .
I could easily find a use for it , but it would n't be nearly as useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it had free 3g, ala kindle, I'd plop down even $200 for one in a heartbeat.
If it only had WiFi... sure, if it were free.
I could easily find a use for it, but it wouldn't be nearly as useful.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214182</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216198</id>
	<title>Any subscription fee?</title>
	<author>BenSchuarmer</author>
	<datestamp>1259088780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It seems to me that a better business model would be for wireless carriers or ISPs to give these away in order to get/keep subscribers (sort of like the "free" cell phones that my family got for agreeing to pay $80 a month for 2 years).</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems to me that a better business model would be for wireless carriers or ISPs to give these away in order to get/keep subscribers ( sort of like the " free " cell phones that my family got for agreeing to pay $ 80 a month for 2 years ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems to me that a better business model would be for wireless carriers or ISPs to give these away in order to get/keep subscribers (sort of like the "free" cell phones that my family got for agreeing to pay $80 a month for 2 years).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214808</id>
	<title>Re:The short answer is...</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1259082840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you get one of these, use it just for Gmail, and block Google from even being accessed on your main machine(s).  What the hell, it's free.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>I don't know if it would be a profitable proposition for Google, but I'd get one of these little buggers in a second.  I'd do my Gmail, my Google Earth, my Google Voice, my Facebook, etc on it.  Then I'd have a REAL machine that I'd do my finances and other sensitive stuff on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you get one of these , use it just for Gmail , and block Google from even being accessed on your main machine ( s ) .
What the hell , it 's free .
: ) I do n't know if it would be a profitable proposition for Google , but I 'd get one of these little buggers in a second .
I 'd do my Gmail , my Google Earth , my Google Voice , my Facebook , etc on it .
Then I 'd have a REAL machine that I 'd do my finances and other sensitive stuff on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you get one of these, use it just for Gmail, and block Google from even being accessed on your main machine(s).
What the hell, it's free.
:)I don't know if it would be a profitable proposition for Google, but I'd get one of these little buggers in a second.
I'd do my Gmail, my Google Earth, my Google Voice, my Facebook, etc on it.
Then I'd have a REAL machine that I'd do my finances and other sensitive stuff on.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214362</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214330</id>
	<title>Re:A free \_netbook\_?</title>
	<author>nicholasjay</author>
	<datestamp>1259080860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, me too. I have a netbook that I only take on vacation with me or use when my other computers are taken. No personal data is stored on it, so I wouldn't mind a free one from Google.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , me too .
I have a netbook that I only take on vacation with me or use when my other computers are taken .
No personal data is stored on it , so I would n't mind a free one from Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, me too.
I have a netbook that I only take on vacation with me or use when my other computers are taken.
No personal data is stored on it, so I wouldn't mind a free one from Google.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214238</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215054</id>
	<title>Recycle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259083620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Man, I just had a great idea. Someone needs to invent a totally recyclable data delivery system made of a really light material. Just load it up with about a days worth of information and carry it anywhere. News, sports, puzzles, etc. You just toss it in a recycle bin when your done and get a new one the next day with all updated information. No network connection required. That would be a lot better than some crippled, hard to recycle piece of electronics.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Man , I just had a great idea .
Someone needs to invent a totally recyclable data delivery system made of a really light material .
Just load it up with about a days worth of information and carry it anywhere .
News , sports , puzzles , etc .
You just toss it in a recycle bin when your done and get a new one the next day with all updated information .
No network connection required .
That would be a lot better than some crippled , hard to recycle piece of electronics .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Man, I just had a great idea.
Someone needs to invent a totally recyclable data delivery system made of a really light material.
Just load it up with about a days worth of information and carry it anywhere.
News, sports, puzzles, etc.
You just toss it in a recycle bin when your done and get a new one the next day with all updated information.
No network connection required.
That would be a lot better than some crippled, hard to recycle piece of electronics.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215132</id>
	<title>Re:No I won't</title>
	<author>godrik</author>
	<datestamp>1259083860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The question never was "will other people use it ?"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The question never was " will other people use it ?
" : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The question never was "will other people use it ?
" :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214726</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216520</id>
	<title>Re:You forget who you're talking to</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259090100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>/etc/hosts... What was that last part again?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>/etc/hosts... What was that last part again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>/etc/hosts... What was that last part again?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214820</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215078</id>
	<title>What happens if you do not have net access</title>
	<author>boylinux</author>
	<datestamp>1259083680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm still trying to figure out these things will work in non-internet environments?
Is it only a brick in places like jets and traveling in cars?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm still trying to figure out these things will work in non-internet environments ?
Is it only a brick in places like jets and traveling in cars ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm still trying to figure out these things will work in non-internet environments?
Is it only a brick in places like jets and traveling in cars?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216350</id>
	<title>Re:ideal for my 2 year old</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1259089320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>i'm thinking a Mac just because he can learn some UNIX on it and it's usable unlike most of the linux distro's i've tried. I do think Ubuntu sucks as a home PC</p></div><p>So you give UNIX a ++, but think that Linux is unusable.  Then you attack Ubuntu specifically.  Strange.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>i 'm thinking a Mac just because he can learn some UNIX on it and it 's usable unlike most of the linux distro 's i 've tried .
I do think Ubuntu sucks as a home PCSo you give UNIX a + + , but think that Linux is unusable .
Then you attack Ubuntu specifically .
Strange .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i'm thinking a Mac just because he can learn some UNIX on it and it's usable unlike most of the linux distro's i've tried.
I do think Ubuntu sucks as a home PCSo you give UNIX a ++, but think that Linux is unusable.
Then you attack Ubuntu specifically.
Strange.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215446</id>
	<title>Re:ideal for my 2 year old</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259085180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Something tells me the parent post is a subtle trolling.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Something tells me the parent post is a subtle trolling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Something tells me the parent post is a subtle trolling.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214430</id>
	<title>No Way</title>
	<author>rainmaestro</author>
	<datestamp>1259081220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A $200 netbook is not worth losing the privacy. If I can't run a 7-pass wipe algorithm over my data, I don't want to use it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A $ 200 netbook is not worth losing the privacy .
If I ca n't run a 7-pass wipe algorithm over my data , I do n't want to use it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A $200 netbook is not worth losing the privacy.
If I can't run a 7-pass wipe algorithm over my data, I don't want to use it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214468</id>
	<title>Will they support it?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259081400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If so, then yes yes, oh $diety yes!  And the first thing I'll do is give it to my parents with a giant sticker on it that says "For support call 1-800-googlez"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If so , then yes yes , oh $ diety yes !
And the first thing I 'll do is give it to my parents with a giant sticker on it that says " For support call 1-800-googlez "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If so, then yes yes, oh $diety yes!
And the first thing I'll do is give it to my parents with a giant sticker on it that says "For support call 1-800-googlez"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30224216</id>
	<title>Dear tin foil hat crowd,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257160020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nobody cares what you do on an hour-by-hour basis.</p><p>It may stroke your ego to think you are that interesting, but, sorry, you just aren't.</p><p>Sincerely,<br>Reality.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobody cares what you do on an hour-by-hour basis.It may stroke your ego to think you are that interesting , but , sorry , you just are n't.Sincerely,Reality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobody cares what you do on an hour-by-hour basis.It may stroke your ego to think you are that interesting, but, sorry, you just aren't.Sincerely,Reality.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215590</id>
	<title>Re:from an ignoramus on all things Chrome OS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259085780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You don't seem to get it do you? its not slightly faster they are talking about boot times that are faster than your monitor, on LOW END hardware. That means you turn it on and by the time display boots up your at your login screen.</p><p>Also incorperate a cell \ wi-max modem and you have an internet computer that can do anything but play hardcore games anywhere. You lose the netbook or throw it off a bridge go to the store pick another one up, turn it on and 5 seconds later your logged in and back to where you were. Access to ALL of your files, bookmarks, settings all on the cloud no backups, no loss of files.</p><p>You may also want to think about the fact that it would be impossible for trojan's, worms, or virus'sto infect your machine since you aren't running local code.</p><p>Would it replace my desktop machine? Hell no. but it certainly would do everything thing else and probably replace my macbook pro.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't seem to get it do you ?
its not slightly faster they are talking about boot times that are faster than your monitor , on LOW END hardware .
That means you turn it on and by the time display boots up your at your login screen.Also incorperate a cell \ wi-max modem and you have an internet computer that can do anything but play hardcore games anywhere .
You lose the netbook or throw it off a bridge go to the store pick another one up , turn it on and 5 seconds later your logged in and back to where you were .
Access to ALL of your files , bookmarks , settings all on the cloud no backups , no loss of files.You may also want to think about the fact that it would be impossible for trojan 's , worms , or virus'sto infect your machine since you are n't running local code.Would it replace my desktop machine ?
Hell no .
but it certainly would do everything thing else and probably replace my macbook pro .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't seem to get it do you?
its not slightly faster they are talking about boot times that are faster than your monitor, on LOW END hardware.
That means you turn it on and by the time display boots up your at your login screen.Also incorperate a cell \ wi-max modem and you have an internet computer that can do anything but play hardcore games anywhere.
You lose the netbook or throw it off a bridge go to the store pick another one up, turn it on and 5 seconds later your logged in and back to where you were.
Access to ALL of your files, bookmarks, settings all on the cloud no backups, no loss of files.You may also want to think about the fact that it would be impossible for trojan's, worms, or virus'sto infect your machine since you aren't running local code.Would it replace my desktop machine?
Hell no.
but it certainly would do everything thing else and probably replace my macbook pro.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214488</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215946</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting Historical Perspective</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1259087460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>On another note: I'm very surprised that people are all that interested in what is, essentially, a SpyOS. Forget tracking cookies - this OS is going to be tracking people's behavior 24 hours a day.</p><p>Not to provide any ideas into advanced Spywware under the guise of "free useful PC" but imagine if there is a GPS in the netbook that is able to track the users' movements. Traffic patterns, of the individual, could be analyzed and combined with other users and applicable advertising will show up for 'popular' products both in on-line advertising and roadside billboards.</p><p>I don't want to get too far off topic so I'll ask this question: When did we turn the corner of being Anti-Spyware to being Pro-Spyware?</p></div><p>I don't know that it's really a question of being anti- or pro-spyware so much as whether we're being paranoid or pragmatic.</p><p>I've got a Garmin, it's handy for getting me where I need to go.  However, it's theoretically possible that someone could subpoena the GPS logs on it to find out where I've been.  I'm not sure how useful that would be...  I don't know if the logs are timestamped or anything...  But it could happen.</p><p>So, what, do I throw away my Garmin because it's spying on me?</p><p>Cell phones can give your approximate location if you call 911...  Should I throw away my cell phone because it's spying on me?</p><p>Sure, this new Google netbook thing could become the ultimate SpyOS.  GPS tracking...ability to phone home...reading your email...watching your surfing habits...  But to what end?  This thing would be distributed by Google - they're not going to steal your credit card number and run off to Jamaica.  They're going to serve you ads.</p><p>Big freaking deal.  I don't need a netbook spying on me to get served with ads.  Just about every web page I bring up has ads on it...  If I call a company I'll likely have to listen to them advertise their services while I'm on hold...  If I turn on the TV I'll be hit with one ad after another...  Same thing goes for the radio...  If I open up a newspaper, or magazine, or even just walk down the street...  Advertising is everywhere.  Why would I care if Google throws a couple more ads at me?</p><p>Yeah, I suppose the government could get some kind of a wiretap on it...  Or law enforcement could subpoena some logs...  But, again, to what end?  I'm not saying <i>if you have nothing to hide, what are you worried about?</i>  I'm saying it's too late for those kinds of privacy concerns.</p><p>The US Government has already admitted to illegally wiretapping tons of citizens.  We've got people being held for years before being charged with anything.  Everyone and their brother has a cell phone with a camera in it.  We've got security cameras all over stores and shopping centers.  You actually think you've got any kind of privacy these days?</p><p>If I was really worried about privacy, I wouldn't be starting with Google's new SpyOS netbook.  I'd have to close my bank accounts and cancel my credit cards...  Start doing business exclusively in cash...  I'd have to cancel my cell phones, throw away my GPS...  I'd have to move someplace far more rural...  I'd have to do everything on-line through TOR or something equivalent...  Actually, I'm not sure that I'd even want to keep my Internet connection, nor any of the other utilities.  If I was genuinely concerned about privacy I'd likely be living in a cave somewhere completely off the grid.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>On another note : I 'm very surprised that people are all that interested in what is , essentially , a SpyOS .
Forget tracking cookies - this OS is going to be tracking people 's behavior 24 hours a day.Not to provide any ideas into advanced Spywware under the guise of " free useful PC " but imagine if there is a GPS in the netbook that is able to track the users ' movements .
Traffic patterns , of the individual , could be analyzed and combined with other users and applicable advertising will show up for 'popular ' products both in on-line advertising and roadside billboards.I do n't want to get too far off topic so I 'll ask this question : When did we turn the corner of being Anti-Spyware to being Pro-Spyware ? I do n't know that it 's really a question of being anti- or pro-spyware so much as whether we 're being paranoid or pragmatic.I 've got a Garmin , it 's handy for getting me where I need to go .
However , it 's theoretically possible that someone could subpoena the GPS logs on it to find out where I 've been .
I 'm not sure how useful that would be... I do n't know if the logs are timestamped or anything... But it could happen.So , what , do I throw away my Garmin because it 's spying on me ? Cell phones can give your approximate location if you call 911... Should I throw away my cell phone because it 's spying on me ? Sure , this new Google netbook thing could become the ultimate SpyOS .
GPS tracking...ability to phone home...reading your email...watching your surfing habits... But to what end ?
This thing would be distributed by Google - they 're not going to steal your credit card number and run off to Jamaica .
They 're going to serve you ads.Big freaking deal .
I do n't need a netbook spying on me to get served with ads .
Just about every web page I bring up has ads on it... If I call a company I 'll likely have to listen to them advertise their services while I 'm on hold... If I turn on the TV I 'll be hit with one ad after another... Same thing goes for the radio... If I open up a newspaper , or magazine , or even just walk down the street... Advertising is everywhere .
Why would I care if Google throws a couple more ads at me ? Yeah , I suppose the government could get some kind of a wiretap on it... Or law enforcement could subpoena some logs... But , again , to what end ?
I 'm not saying if you have nothing to hide , what are you worried about ?
I 'm saying it 's too late for those kinds of privacy concerns.The US Government has already admitted to illegally wiretapping tons of citizens .
We 've got people being held for years before being charged with anything .
Everyone and their brother has a cell phone with a camera in it .
We 've got security cameras all over stores and shopping centers .
You actually think you 've got any kind of privacy these days ? If I was really worried about privacy , I would n't be starting with Google 's new SpyOS netbook .
I 'd have to close my bank accounts and cancel my credit cards... Start doing business exclusively in cash... I 'd have to cancel my cell phones , throw away my GPS... I 'd have to move someplace far more rural... I 'd have to do everything on-line through TOR or something equivalent... Actually , I 'm not sure that I 'd even want to keep my Internet connection , nor any of the other utilities .
If I was genuinely concerned about privacy I 'd likely be living in a cave somewhere completely off the grid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On another note: I'm very surprised that people are all that interested in what is, essentially, a SpyOS.
Forget tracking cookies - this OS is going to be tracking people's behavior 24 hours a day.Not to provide any ideas into advanced Spywware under the guise of "free useful PC" but imagine if there is a GPS in the netbook that is able to track the users' movements.
Traffic patterns, of the individual, could be analyzed and combined with other users and applicable advertising will show up for 'popular' products both in on-line advertising and roadside billboards.I don't want to get too far off topic so I'll ask this question: When did we turn the corner of being Anti-Spyware to being Pro-Spyware?I don't know that it's really a question of being anti- or pro-spyware so much as whether we're being paranoid or pragmatic.I've got a Garmin, it's handy for getting me where I need to go.
However, it's theoretically possible that someone could subpoena the GPS logs on it to find out where I've been.
I'm not sure how useful that would be...  I don't know if the logs are timestamped or anything...  But it could happen.So, what, do I throw away my Garmin because it's spying on me?Cell phones can give your approximate location if you call 911...  Should I throw away my cell phone because it's spying on me?Sure, this new Google netbook thing could become the ultimate SpyOS.
GPS tracking...ability to phone home...reading your email...watching your surfing habits...  But to what end?
This thing would be distributed by Google - they're not going to steal your credit card number and run off to Jamaica.
They're going to serve you ads.Big freaking deal.
I don't need a netbook spying on me to get served with ads.
Just about every web page I bring up has ads on it...  If I call a company I'll likely have to listen to them advertise their services while I'm on hold...  If I turn on the TV I'll be hit with one ad after another...  Same thing goes for the radio...  If I open up a newspaper, or magazine, or even just walk down the street...  Advertising is everywhere.
Why would I care if Google throws a couple more ads at me?Yeah, I suppose the government could get some kind of a wiretap on it...  Or law enforcement could subpoena some logs...  But, again, to what end?
I'm not saying if you have nothing to hide, what are you worried about?
I'm saying it's too late for those kinds of privacy concerns.The US Government has already admitted to illegally wiretapping tons of citizens.
We've got people being held for years before being charged with anything.
Everyone and their brother has a cell phone with a camera in it.
We've got security cameras all over stores and shopping centers.
You actually think you've got any kind of privacy these days?If I was really worried about privacy, I wouldn't be starting with Google's new SpyOS netbook.
I'd have to close my bank accounts and cancel my credit cards...  Start doing business exclusively in cash...  I'd have to cancel my cell phones, throw away my GPS...  I'd have to move someplace far more rural...  I'd have to do everything on-line through TOR or something equivalent...  Actually, I'm not sure that I'd even want to keep my Internet connection, nor any of the other utilities.
If I was genuinely concerned about privacy I'd likely be living in a cave somewhere completely off the grid.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214648</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215808</id>
	<title>Re:Duhhh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259086800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Would you build a Beowulf cluster out of them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would you build a Beowulf cluster out of them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would you build a Beowulf cluster out of them?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214290</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214450</id>
	<title>Net-Apps</title>
	<author>eepok</author>
	<datestamp>1259081340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Net Apps are useful in a pinch, but I don't think anyone here believes they can offer the speed and versatility of a full blow spreadsheet or word processor (like Word/Excel or Open Office).

They just won't put enough effort into development to make it a realistic substitute... on NETBOOK machinery.

Then there's the issue of not having an internet connection, but needing to work or wanting to read something.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Net Apps are useful in a pinch , but I do n't think anyone here believes they can offer the speed and versatility of a full blow spreadsheet or word processor ( like Word/Excel or Open Office ) .
They just wo n't put enough effort into development to make it a realistic substitute... on NETBOOK machinery .
Then there 's the issue of not having an internet connection , but needing to work or wanting to read something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Net Apps are useful in a pinch, but I don't think anyone here believes they can offer the speed and versatility of a full blow spreadsheet or word processor (like Word/Excel or Open Office).
They just won't put enough effort into development to make it a realistic substitute... on NETBOOK machinery.
Then there's the issue of not having an internet connection, but needing to work or wanting to read something.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30217864</id>
	<title>Internet breaks? Yeah, once in a blue moon.</title>
	<author>jotaeleemeese</author>
	<datestamp>1259053500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My desktop is frankly useless without a network connection nowadays, so the Internet connection is nowadays a given, so recoiling on that regard is valid only in Zimbabwe or other such places.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My desktop is frankly useless without a network connection nowadays , so the Internet connection is nowadays a given , so recoiling on that regard is valid only in Zimbabwe or other such places .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My desktop is frankly useless without a network connection nowadays, so the Internet connection is nowadays a given, so recoiling on that regard is valid only in Zimbabwe or other such places.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214262</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30220986</id>
	<title>Nope</title>
	<author>k8to</author>
	<datestamp>1259068380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No. I would not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
I would not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
I would not.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214292</id>
	<title>No catch</title>
	<author>vvaduva</author>
	<datestamp>1259080740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, absolutely...there is never a catch to free stuff being handed out by large corporations!!  Sign me up!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , absolutely...there is never a catch to free stuff being handed out by large corporations ! !
Sign me up !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, absolutely...there is never a catch to free stuff being handed out by large corporations!!
Sign me up!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216786</id>
	<title>FREE FREE FREE GET IT WHILE IT IS HOT</title>
	<author>axor1337</author>
	<datestamp>1259091480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sure would  FREE Netbook running the chrome OS. if it was 3g capable it would be even better. partner with AT&amp;T or Verizon and get them to subsidize the hardware, and the the customer pays $35.00 a month for an unlimited data plan.  I would do that and ditch my current phone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure would FREE Netbook running the chrome OS .
if it was 3g capable it would be even better .
partner with AT&amp;T or Verizon and get them to subsidize the hardware , and the the customer pays $ 35.00 a month for an unlimited data plan .
I would do that and ditch my current phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure would  FREE Netbook running the chrome OS.
if it was 3g capable it would be even better.
partner with AT&amp;T or Verizon and get them to subsidize the hardware, and the the customer pays $35.00 a month for an unlimited data plan.
I would do that and ditch my current phone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215012</id>
	<title>1. Make OS 2. ??? 3. Profit!</title>
	<author>VGPowerlord</author>
	<datestamp>1259083500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Plan:<br>1. Google makes an OS.<br>2. ???<br>3. Profit!</p><p>This is what the article/summary says The Plan is:<br>1. Google makes an OS.<br>2. <a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/books/humor/8e6c/images/2070/" title="thinkgeek.com">Google puts ads in the OS and gives away free computers with it installed.</a> [thinkgeek.com]<br>3. Profit!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Plan : 1 .
Google makes an OS.2 .
? ? ? 3. Profit ! This is what the article/summary says The Plan is : 1 .
Google makes an OS.2 .
Google puts ads in the OS and gives away free computers with it installed .
[ thinkgeek.com ] 3. Profit !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Plan:1.
Google makes an OS.2.
???3. Profit!This is what the article/summary says The Plan is:1.
Google makes an OS.2.
Google puts ads in the OS and gives away free computers with it installed.
[thinkgeek.com]3. Profit!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215782</id>
	<title>Re:Certainly!</title>
	<author>CannonballHead</author>
	<datestamp>1259086680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>new?</htmltext>
<tokenext>new ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>new?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214300</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215080</id>
	<title>Of course I wouldn't</title>
	<author>knarf</author>
	<datestamp>1259083680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Me, take a handout from an advertising company? Are you silly? I make an effort to lower the amount of commercial drivel which surrounds me. Why would I allow them to give me some trinket to shower me in ads? Thanks but no thanks, if I want a 'netbook' I'll buy one myself. Without ads.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Me , take a handout from an advertising company ?
Are you silly ?
I make an effort to lower the amount of commercial drivel which surrounds me .
Why would I allow them to give me some trinket to shower me in ads ?
Thanks but no thanks , if I want a 'netbook ' I 'll buy one myself .
Without ads .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Me, take a handout from an advertising company?
Are you silly?
I make an effort to lower the amount of commercial drivel which surrounds me.
Why would I allow them to give me some trinket to shower me in ads?
Thanks but no thanks, if I want a 'netbook' I'll buy one myself.
Without ads.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30217460</id>
	<title>Absolutely</title>
	<author>md27</author>
	<datestamp>1259094900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Where do I submit my mailing address?  Create a new Google account just for that purpose till you figure out just how much it phones home.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where do I submit my mailing address ?
Create a new Google account just for that purpose till you figure out just how much it phones home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where do I submit my mailing address?
Create a new Google account just for that purpose till you figure out just how much it phones home.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214858</id>
	<title>ma8e</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259083020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>area. It is the bureaucratic and ransom for their the gay niggers of BSD/OS. A When I stood for clearly. There enjoy the loud violated. In the handy, you are free On slashdot.org been looking for! Theo de Raadt, one are almost Wall: *BSD faces a users. Surprise the accounting to die. I will jam for *BSD because (7000+1400+700)*4 declined in market Of Wa[lnut Creek, '*BsD Sux0rs'. This to its laid-back under the GPL. eulogies to BSD's fucking percent of If desired, we case you want to</htmltext>
<tokenext>area .
It is the bureaucratic and ransom for their the gay niggers of BSD/OS .
A When I stood for clearly .
There enjoy the loud violated .
In the handy , you are free On slashdot.org been looking for !
Theo de Raadt , one are almost Wall : * BSD faces a users .
Surprise the accounting to die .
I will jam for * BSD because ( 7000 + 1400 + 700 ) * 4 declined in market Of Wa [ lnut Creek , ' * BsD Sux0rs' .
This to its laid-back under the GPL .
eulogies to BSD 's fucking percent of If desired , we case you want to</tokentext>
<sentencetext>area.
It is the bureaucratic and ransom for their the gay niggers of BSD/OS.
A When I stood for clearly.
There enjoy the loud violated.
In the handy, you are free On slashdot.org been looking for!
Theo de Raadt, one are almost Wall: *BSD faces a users.
Surprise the accounting to die.
I will jam for *BSD because (7000+1400+700)*4 declined in market Of Wa[lnut Creek, '*BsD Sux0rs'.
This to its laid-back under the GPL.
eulogies to BSD's fucking percent of If desired, we case you want to</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215022</id>
	<title>Free processors, sure, I'll take 2 ;)</title>
	<author>almondo</author>
	<datestamp>1259083560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure, if it could surf I could use it to monitor my nms while driving down the road or while sitting at the bar.  It would be cool if it was more than a toy, (as in has an SSH client, etc) but even if it didn't I could cope with it.  If it starts uncontrollably spewing Rollax, Vialis, Shrinx ads I will just have the bartender put it in the beer cooler for a while so it can cool down.  I could take it to wally world and scan random barcodes for no apparent reason other than to confuse the ad targeting bot. I still have a USB cuecat around somewhere...I think it's filed under b for barcode, c for cool, s for stuff, or worst case, l for lost.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , if it could surf I could use it to monitor my nms while driving down the road or while sitting at the bar .
It would be cool if it was more than a toy , ( as in has an SSH client , etc ) but even if it did n't I could cope with it .
If it starts uncontrollably spewing Rollax , Vialis , Shrinx ads I will just have the bartender put it in the beer cooler for a while so it can cool down .
I could take it to wally world and scan random barcodes for no apparent reason other than to confuse the ad targeting bot .
I still have a USB cuecat around somewhere...I think it 's filed under b for barcode , c for cool , s for stuff , or worst case , l for lost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, if it could surf I could use it to monitor my nms while driving down the road or while sitting at the bar.
It would be cool if it was more than a toy, (as in has an SSH client, etc) but even if it didn't I could cope with it.
If it starts uncontrollably spewing Rollax, Vialis, Shrinx ads I will just have the bartender put it in the beer cooler for a while so it can cool down.
I could take it to wally world and scan random barcodes for no apparent reason other than to confuse the ad targeting bot.
I still have a USB cuecat around somewhere...I think it's filed under b for barcode, c for cool, s for stuff, or worst case, l for lost.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216082</id>
	<title>Re:No I won't</title>
	<author>tomhudson</author>
	<datestamp>1259088180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>GoogleOS fits into it because free-as-in-speech software is much bigger then you.</p></div>

</blockquote><p>
The google netbook uses cryptographically signed images for its software.  In the event that the software fails the check, the device re-images itself from the cloud, so you don't have "free-as-in-speech" software, you have a closed, Tivo-type system;  "look but don't touch."
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>GoogleOS fits into it because free-as-in-speech software is much bigger then you .
The google netbook uses cryptographically signed images for its software .
In the event that the software fails the check , the device re-images itself from the cloud , so you do n't have " free-as-in-speech " software , you have a closed , Tivo-type system ; " look but do n't touch .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GoogleOS fits into it because free-as-in-speech software is much bigger then you.
The google netbook uses cryptographically signed images for its software.
In the event that the software fails the check, the device re-images itself from the cloud, so you don't have "free-as-in-speech" software, you have a closed, Tivo-type system;  "look but don't touch.
"

	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214726</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216438</id>
	<title>Re:No I won't</title>
	<author>bzipitidoo</author>
	<datestamp>1259089680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This whole idea of accessing a cloud via a netbook sounds awfully like accessing a mainframe via a remote terminal.

</p><p>We know what happens with many terminals hooked up to a single mainframe.  It has many weaknesses.  Mainframes do sometimes go down.  They have to be taken down for maintenance on occasion.  They often slow to a crawl.  It could take only a few users being infected or running big jobs to spoil things for everyone.  True, the network of a bunch of independent PCs can be saturated, but that doesn't stop everyone's CPUs like it does with the mainframe.  And mainframes are easy to configure badly so that some users are starved even though their requests are very modest.  I have not forgotten the experience of having to do class work on a university mainframe that was also used by administration.  Administration had priority of course, and the set up was such that if administration was at work, it took 6 hours (!) before a student's job would even run.  The only time we students could really do our work was between 5pm and midnight because at all other hours the terminal rooms were closed or administration was at work.  Even though that was the usual time we did our homework, it was still a constraint to have to work around an artificial scarcity of a single resource.

</p><p>Whatever happens on the mainframe affects everyone and every service all at once.  PCs are more robust, and allow networking issues to be handled in isolation from other services.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This whole idea of accessing a cloud via a netbook sounds awfully like accessing a mainframe via a remote terminal .
We know what happens with many terminals hooked up to a single mainframe .
It has many weaknesses .
Mainframes do sometimes go down .
They have to be taken down for maintenance on occasion .
They often slow to a crawl .
It could take only a few users being infected or running big jobs to spoil things for everyone .
True , the network of a bunch of independent PCs can be saturated , but that does n't stop everyone 's CPUs like it does with the mainframe .
And mainframes are easy to configure badly so that some users are starved even though their requests are very modest .
I have not forgotten the experience of having to do class work on a university mainframe that was also used by administration .
Administration had priority of course , and the set up was such that if administration was at work , it took 6 hours ( !
) before a student 's job would even run .
The only time we students could really do our work was between 5pm and midnight because at all other hours the terminal rooms were closed or administration was at work .
Even though that was the usual time we did our homework , it was still a constraint to have to work around an artificial scarcity of a single resource .
Whatever happens on the mainframe affects everyone and every service all at once .
PCs are more robust , and allow networking issues to be handled in isolation from other services .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This whole idea of accessing a cloud via a netbook sounds awfully like accessing a mainframe via a remote terminal.
We know what happens with many terminals hooked up to a single mainframe.
It has many weaknesses.
Mainframes do sometimes go down.
They have to be taken down for maintenance on occasion.
They often slow to a crawl.
It could take only a few users being infected or running big jobs to spoil things for everyone.
True, the network of a bunch of independent PCs can be saturated, but that doesn't stop everyone's CPUs like it does with the mainframe.
And mainframes are easy to configure badly so that some users are starved even though their requests are very modest.
I have not forgotten the experience of having to do class work on a university mainframe that was also used by administration.
Administration had priority of course, and the set up was such that if administration was at work, it took 6 hours (!
) before a student's job would even run.
The only time we students could really do our work was between 5pm and midnight because at all other hours the terminal rooms were closed or administration was at work.
Even though that was the usual time we did our homework, it was still a constraint to have to work around an artificial scarcity of a single resource.
Whatever happens on the mainframe affects everyone and every service all at once.
PCs are more robust, and allow networking issues to be handled in isolation from other services.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214262</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30220042</id>
	<title>Re:No I won't</title>
	<author>gbarules2999</author>
	<datestamp>1259063520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Then this product is not for you. Simple as that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then this product is not for you .
Simple as that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then this product is not for you.
Simple as that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214262</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30220316</id>
	<title>Re:Attempted before</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1259064660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The attempt was a bust if I recall right."</p><p>The I-Appliance BBS is an interesting source of info on orphan devices whose business models shat the bed, beginning with the famous  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-Opener" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-Opener</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p><a href="http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl" title="linux-hacker.net">http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl</a> [linux-hacker.net]</p><p>I could care less if someones business model fails, and if they gimme free stuff I'll happily put it to use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The attempt was a bust if I recall right .
" The I-Appliance BBS is an interesting source of info on orphan devices whose business models shat the bed , beginning with the famous http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-Opener [ wikipedia.org ] http : //www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl [ linux-hacker.net ] I could care less if someones business model fails , and if they gim me free stuff I 'll happily put it to use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The attempt was a bust if I recall right.
"The I-Appliance BBS is an interesting source of info on orphan devices whose business models shat the bed, beginning with the famous  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-Opener [wikipedia.org]http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/UltraBoard.pl [linux-hacker.net]I could care less if someones business model fails, and if they gimme free stuff I'll happily put it to use.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215088</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30217630</id>
	<title>Re:No I won't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259095680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I won't use a machine which is useless without network.</p></div><p>So you do not use phones? And by phones, I mean POTS.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wo n't use a machine which is useless without network.So you do not use phones ?
And by phones , I mean POTS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I won't use a machine which is useless without network.So you do not use phones?
And by phones, I mean POTS.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214262</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30220464</id>
	<title>Heres how the Google Commercial should go..</title>
	<author>azbrat3</author>
	<datestamp>1259065380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google Labtop, cost, $0.  Google Docs, cost, $0. Google tracking cookie, cost $0.  Saving your identity for generations to come... Priceless.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google Labtop , cost , $ 0 .
Google Docs , cost , $ 0 .
Google tracking cookie , cost $ 0 .
Saving your identity for generations to come... Priceless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google Labtop, cost, $0.
Google Docs, cost, $0.
Google tracking cookie, cost $0.
Saving your identity for generations to come... Priceless.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30225956</id>
	<title>It depends...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1257177600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the information I give to Google through the use of the netbook is worth $150</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the information I give to Google through the use of the netbook is worth $ 150</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the information I give to Google through the use of the netbook is worth $150</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30217256</id>
	<title>Sure</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1259093940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Step 1: Get free netbook<br>
Step 2: Strip it of interesting components<br>
Step 3: Use free components in own electronics projects<br>
Step 4: Prof-- er, break-even!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Step 1 : Get free netbook Step 2 : Strip it of interesting components Step 3 : Use free components in own electronics projects Step 4 : Prof-- er , break-even !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Step 1: Get free netbook
Step 2: Strip it of interesting components
Step 3: Use free components in own electronics projects
Step 4: Prof-- er, break-even!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215586</id>
	<title>Re:from an ignoramus on all things Chrome OS</title>
	<author>digitalchinky</author>
	<datestamp>1259085780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's purely about the money. If google can shove their own locked down free laptop in your face and advertise directly at you, the short story is that they get to keep more advertiser cash for themselves. In simple terms, they don't want to endlessly pay people to host adverts for them.</p><p>Keeping their cake and eating it too, one free laptop at a time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's purely about the money .
If google can shove their own locked down free laptop in your face and advertise directly at you , the short story is that they get to keep more advertiser cash for themselves .
In simple terms , they do n't want to endlessly pay people to host adverts for them.Keeping their cake and eating it too , one free laptop at a time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's purely about the money.
If google can shove their own locked down free laptop in your face and advertise directly at you, the short story is that they get to keep more advertiser cash for themselves.
In simple terms, they don't want to endlessly pay people to host adverts for them.Keeping their cake and eating it too, one free laptop at a time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214488</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215110</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>Garble Snarky</author>
	<datestamp>1259083800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>If it's THAT cheap, I'll just buy my own. Even if the unsubsidized hardware costs twice that, I'd still rather spend $40 and have the freedom to do what I want with MY hardware.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's THAT cheap , I 'll just buy my own .
Even if the unsubsidized hardware costs twice that , I 'd still rather spend $ 40 and have the freedom to do what I want with MY hardware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's THAT cheap, I'll just buy my own.
Even if the unsubsidized hardware costs twice that, I'd still rather spend $40 and have the freedom to do what I want with MY hardware.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214342</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216250</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1259089020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>On the other hand, if it has ChromeOS installed and I can nuke it and install FreeBSD without violating the conditions of sale, then I'd be happy to pick one up for free, especially if it had an ARM CPU and decent battery life.</htmltext>
<tokenext>On the other hand , if it has ChromeOS installed and I can nuke it and install FreeBSD without violating the conditions of sale , then I 'd be happy to pick one up for free , especially if it had an ARM CPU and decent battery life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the other hand, if it has ChromeOS installed and I can nuke it and install FreeBSD without violating the conditions of sale, then I'd be happy to pick one up for free, especially if it had an ARM CPU and decent battery life.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215110</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214762</id>
	<title>Re:Would you accept a free Google netbook?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259082660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to a previous story it would probably not have a hard drive, so that could be difficult</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to a previous story it would probably not have a hard drive , so that could be difficult</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to a previous story it would probably not have a hard drive, so that could be difficult</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214286</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30217358</id>
	<title>Sure</title>
	<author>ITJC68</author>
	<datestamp>1259094420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As long as I can format the hard drive and install the OS of my choice without notifying said company of that. LOL. Otherwise no thanks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as I can format the hard drive and install the OS of my choice without notifying said company of that .
LOL. Otherwise no thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as I can format the hard drive and install the OS of my choice without notifying said company of that.
LOL. Otherwise no thanks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215970</id>
	<title>hardware piracy?</title>
	<author>ChrmnMa0</author>
	<datestamp>1259087520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>One ethical question is raised. If you accept a free netbook, knowing that the price is covered by the advertisements, are you obligated to keep the adds installed? If you remove them are you then stealing the machine?</htmltext>
<tokenext>One ethical question is raised .
If you accept a free netbook , knowing that the price is covered by the advertisements , are you obligated to keep the adds installed ?
If you remove them are you then stealing the machine ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One ethical question is raised.
If you accept a free netbook, knowing that the price is covered by the advertisements, are you obligated to keep the adds installed?
If you remove them are you then stealing the machine?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216366</id>
	<title>Re:Remember the 90's</title>
	<author>misexistentialist</author>
	<datestamp>1259089380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now you pay hundreds for a computer and it's still ad-laden with trial software that pops up on your desktop. I'd prefer free.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now you pay hundreds for a computer and it 's still ad-laden with trial software that pops up on your desktop .
I 'd prefer free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now you pay hundreds for a computer and it's still ad-laden with trial software that pops up on your desktop.
I'd prefer free.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214452</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215744</id>
	<title>Re:A free \_netbook\_?</title>
	<author>gladish</author>
	<datestamp>1259086440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ya, and some guy will post step-by-step instructions on the web on how to flash a clean ubuntu install onto and I'll remove your adware garbage.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ya , and some guy will post step-by-step instructions on the web on how to flash a clean ubuntu install onto and I 'll remove your adware garbage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ya, and some guy will post step-by-step instructions on the web on how to flash a clean ubuntu install onto and I'll remove your adware garbage.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214238</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215264</id>
	<title>Advertising Inside Apps</title>
	<author>gedrin</author>
	<datestamp>1259084460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We all can see the likelyhood of a gmail skin brought to us by Coke.  What about more subtle advertising inside an app?  Word selection in spell check or thesaurus for example ("lymon" appears on searches for fruit).  Then there's the idea of using the data they gather to dynamicly generate integrated campaigns through your OS.  Google is pretty sophisticated in its advertising, and while I'm certain they'd have the ability, I don't know how such a thing would be recieved.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We all can see the likelyhood of a gmail skin brought to us by Coke .
What about more subtle advertising inside an app ?
Word selection in spell check or thesaurus for example ( " lymon " appears on searches for fruit ) .
Then there 's the idea of using the data they gather to dynamicly generate integrated campaigns through your OS .
Google is pretty sophisticated in its advertising , and while I 'm certain they 'd have the ability , I do n't know how such a thing would be recieved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We all can see the likelyhood of a gmail skin brought to us by Coke.
What about more subtle advertising inside an app?
Word selection in spell check or thesaurus for example ("lymon" appears on searches for fruit).
Then there's the idea of using the data they gather to dynamicly generate integrated campaigns through your OS.
Google is pretty sophisticated in its advertising, and while I'm certain they'd have the ability, I don't know how such a thing would be recieved.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30221658</id>
	<title>WebPlayer and iOpener</title>
	<author>meehawl</author>
	<datestamp>1259073300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah, advertising frothiness. I recall in the early noughties getting a "free" <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin\_Webplayer" title="wikipedia.org">Virgin WebPlayer</a> [wikipedia.org] (in return for allowing it to run ads within its sandboxed browser). It made a nice little MP3 player (using Win 98) and, later, Debian. A friend I worked with got an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-Opener" title="wikipedia.org">iOpener</a> [wikipedia.org] instead. He now works for Google. I doubt Google would make the same mistakes as Netpliance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah , advertising frothiness .
I recall in the early noughties getting a " free " Virgin WebPlayer [ wikipedia.org ] ( in return for allowing it to run ads within its sandboxed browser ) .
It made a nice little MP3 player ( using Win 98 ) and , later , Debian .
A friend I worked with got an iOpener [ wikipedia.org ] instead .
He now works for Google .
I doubt Google would make the same mistakes as Netpliance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah, advertising frothiness.
I recall in the early noughties getting a "free" Virgin WebPlayer [wikipedia.org] (in return for allowing it to run ads within its sandboxed browser).
It made a nice little MP3 player (using Win 98) and, later, Debian.
A friend I worked with got an iOpener [wikipedia.org] instead.
He now works for Google.
I doubt Google would make the same mistakes as Netpliance.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214786</id>
	<title>response to Chromium has been rather lukewarm</title>
	<author>viralMeme</author>
	<datestamp>1259082840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"<i>It's the morning after the big Chrome OS event<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. now that the news is out, has Chrome OS lost its shine?</i>"<br> <br>

<a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/was\_chrome\_os\_a\_disappointment.php?utm\_source=feedburner&amp;utm\_medium=feed&amp;utm\_campaign=Feed\%3A+readwriteweb+(ReadWriteWeb)&amp;utm\_content=Google+Reader" title="readwriteweb.com">Chromium OS</a> [readwriteweb.com] has been out one whole day and already you can tell it's reception is lukewarm. Maybe you should be doing magic future prediction acts on television, like <a href="http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/derren-browns-lottery-numbers.html" title="davidnaylor.co.uk">Derren Brown</a> [davidnaylor.co.uk] predicting what the lottery results are going to be.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" It 's the morning after the big Chrome OS event .. now that the news is out , has Chrome OS lost its shine ?
" Chromium OS [ readwriteweb.com ] has been out one whole day and already you can tell it 's reception is lukewarm .
Maybe you should be doing magic future prediction acts on television , like Derren Brown [ davidnaylor.co.uk ] predicting what the lottery results are going to be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It's the morning after the big Chrome OS event .. now that the news is out, has Chrome OS lost its shine?
" 

Chromium OS [readwriteweb.com] has been out one whole day and already you can tell it's reception is lukewarm.
Maybe you should be doing magic future prediction acts on television, like Derren Brown [davidnaylor.co.uk] predicting what the lottery results are going to be.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214182</id>
	<title>Not possible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259080380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As nice as it is to think that advertisements will cover everything, a single user isn't worth a $150+ netbook. Actually single user is worth <i>a lot</i> less for Google and other companies.</p><p>Lets say Google gets around $2 CPM on normal searches. That means a single search is worth something like $0.002 for Google. It's going to take lots of searches and ad clicks from every user to even cover the costs of the netbook. And the same users would be doing those searches and ad clicks anyway, so it serves no purpose.</p><p>Another thing is that search result advertisements and even ads on gmail are worth more because they can be really targeted. But what do you advertise on a spreadsheet app? Users aren't looking for any info or such - they're working on their spreadsheet.</p><p>It's just out of the question that a single user would be worth $150 for Google.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As nice as it is to think that advertisements will cover everything , a single user is n't worth a $ 150 + netbook .
Actually single user is worth a lot less for Google and other companies.Lets say Google gets around $ 2 CPM on normal searches .
That means a single search is worth something like $ 0.002 for Google .
It 's going to take lots of searches and ad clicks from every user to even cover the costs of the netbook .
And the same users would be doing those searches and ad clicks anyway , so it serves no purpose.Another thing is that search result advertisements and even ads on gmail are worth more because they can be really targeted .
But what do you advertise on a spreadsheet app ?
Users are n't looking for any info or such - they 're working on their spreadsheet.It 's just out of the question that a single user would be worth $ 150 for Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As nice as it is to think that advertisements will cover everything, a single user isn't worth a $150+ netbook.
Actually single user is worth a lot less for Google and other companies.Lets say Google gets around $2 CPM on normal searches.
That means a single search is worth something like $0.002 for Google.
It's going to take lots of searches and ad clicks from every user to even cover the costs of the netbook.
And the same users would be doing those searches and ad clicks anyway, so it serves no purpose.Another thing is that search result advertisements and even ads on gmail are worth more because they can be really targeted.
But what do you advertise on a spreadsheet app?
Users aren't looking for any info or such - they're working on their spreadsheet.It's just out of the question that a single user would be worth $150 for Google.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214288</id>
	<title>Pay</title>
	<author>truthsearch</author>
	<datestamp>1259080740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would pay to not see the ads.  I would also pay to retain control over the device (assuming the give-away would be a type of lease).</p><p>But the privacy arguments are an issue whether or not you buy the device.  If your apps are on the web, they're on someone's servers, whether you paid for the client or not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would pay to not see the ads .
I would also pay to retain control over the device ( assuming the give-away would be a type of lease ) .But the privacy arguments are an issue whether or not you buy the device .
If your apps are on the web , they 're on someone 's servers , whether you paid for the client or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would pay to not see the ads.
I would also pay to retain control over the device (assuming the give-away would be a type of lease).But the privacy arguments are an issue whether or not you buy the device.
If your apps are on the web, they're on someone's servers, whether you paid for the client or not.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30222722</id>
	<title>It's free?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259082960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> Now I can have my Beowulf cluster of Google netbooks! </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I can have my Beowulf cluster of Google netbooks !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Now I can have my Beowulf cluster of Google netbooks! </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216476</id>
	<title>Re:ideal for my 2 year old</title>
	<author>alen</author>
	<datestamp>1259089800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it's fun to watch. i let my son play with my iphone and when we play with the computer he tries to do something by touching the screen and it's hard teaching him the concept of the computer mouse at this age</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's fun to watch .
i let my son play with my iphone and when we play with the computer he tries to do something by touching the screen and it 's hard teaching him the concept of the computer mouse at this age</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's fun to watch.
i let my son play with my iphone and when we play with the computer he tries to do something by touching the screen and it's hard teaching him the concept of the computer mouse at this age</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214350</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>slim</author>
	<datestamp>1259080920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As nice as it is to think that advertisements will cover everything, a single user isn't worth a $150+ netbook. Actually single user is worth a lot less for Google and other companies.</p></div><p>I agree with this, although I think the hardware could be *much* cheaper than $150. Say $50, in time. But still advertising couldn't cover 100\% of it.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>But what do you advertise on a spreadsheet app? Users aren't looking for any info or such - they're working on their spreadsheet.</p></div><p>I have a Google Docs spreadsheet right here entitled "Warwick office Christmas Lunch 2009".</p><p>Along with the column headings, there's a good chance Google's systems could guess it's a good place to advertise restaurants and pubs near Warwick.</p><p>How many spreadsheets contain the name of a product, with the price alongside it? That's a signal to advertise that product.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As nice as it is to think that advertisements will cover everything , a single user is n't worth a $ 150 + netbook .
Actually single user is worth a lot less for Google and other companies.I agree with this , although I think the hardware could be * much * cheaper than $ 150 .
Say $ 50 , in time .
But still advertising could n't cover 100 \ % of it.But what do you advertise on a spreadsheet app ?
Users are n't looking for any info or such - they 're working on their spreadsheet.I have a Google Docs spreadsheet right here entitled " Warwick office Christmas Lunch 2009 " .Along with the column headings , there 's a good chance Google 's systems could guess it 's a good place to advertise restaurants and pubs near Warwick.How many spreadsheets contain the name of a product , with the price alongside it ?
That 's a signal to advertise that product .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As nice as it is to think that advertisements will cover everything, a single user isn't worth a $150+ netbook.
Actually single user is worth a lot less for Google and other companies.I agree with this, although I think the hardware could be *much* cheaper than $150.
Say $50, in time.
But still advertising couldn't cover 100\% of it.But what do you advertise on a spreadsheet app?
Users aren't looking for any info or such - they're working on their spreadsheet.I have a Google Docs spreadsheet right here entitled "Warwick office Christmas Lunch 2009".Along with the column headings, there's a good chance Google's systems could guess it's a good place to advertise restaurants and pubs near Warwick.How many spreadsheets contain the name of a product, with the price alongside it?
That's a signal to advertise that product.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214182</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214308</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259080740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where are you getting the $150 number from? A minimalistic, barebones computer capable of running a browser would cost a lot less than that, wouldn't it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where are you getting the $ 150 number from ?
A minimalistic , barebones computer capable of running a browser would cost a lot less than that , would n't it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where are you getting the $150 number from?
A minimalistic, barebones computer capable of running a browser would cost a lot less than that, wouldn't it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214182</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215682</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1259086140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's never going to be a $20 netbook even if your labor costs were zero.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's never going to be a $ 20 netbook even if your labor costs were zero .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's never going to be a $20 netbook even if your labor costs were zero.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214342</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214988</id>
	<title>Yes</title>
	<author>TeXMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1259083380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>next question</htmltext>
<tokenext>next question</tokentext>
<sentencetext>next question</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216130</id>
	<title>Re:Would you accept a free Google netbook?</title>
	<author>tomhudson</author>
	<datestamp>1259088360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Sure, as long as it wasn't too difficult to wipe it and install Debian.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Google isn't about to release the signing keys to allow you to digitally sign your distro, so if you did succeed in wiping it, it would fail on boot, notice the checksum is wrong, and re-image itself.  They've already said that's how it's going to work "as protection from malware."  You won't even be able to install an unsigned printer driver, so you're going to want a new "ChromeOS-compatible" printer with that welfarebook.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , as long as it was n't too difficult to wipe it and install Debian .
Google is n't about to release the signing keys to allow you to digitally sign your distro , so if you did succeed in wiping it , it would fail on boot , notice the checksum is wrong , and re-image itself .
They 've already said that 's how it 's going to work " as protection from malware .
" You wo n't even be able to install an unsigned printer driver , so you 're going to want a new " ChromeOS-compatible " printer with that welfarebook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, as long as it wasn't too difficult to wipe it and install Debian.
Google isn't about to release the signing keys to allow you to digitally sign your distro, so if you did succeed in wiping it, it would fail on boot, notice the checksum is wrong, and re-image itself.
They've already said that's how it's going to work "as protection from malware.
"  You won't even be able to install an unsigned printer driver, so you're going to want a new "ChromeOS-compatible" printer with that welfarebook.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214286</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216762</id>
	<title>Re:No I won't</title>
	<author>memnock</author>
	<datestamp>1259091420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i wouldn't because like the last line of the summary says, i don't want to let the all-knowing Google any further into my life. i use scroogle for my web searches and have gmail accounts that sit there idle, so i have the ids if want them, but no real intention of using them.</p><p>Google does some interesting things, but analogous to M$ monopolizing computer OSes, Google seems to want to do the same thing with information or data. i'm not too fond of that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i would n't because like the last line of the summary says , i do n't want to let the all-knowing Google any further into my life .
i use scroogle for my web searches and have gmail accounts that sit there idle , so i have the ids if want them , but no real intention of using them.Google does some interesting things , but analogous to M $ monopolizing computer OSes , Google seems to want to do the same thing with information or data .
i 'm not too fond of that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i wouldn't because like the last line of the summary says, i don't want to let the all-knowing Google any further into my life.
i use scroogle for my web searches and have gmail accounts that sit there idle, so i have the ids if want them, but no real intention of using them.Google does some interesting things, but analogous to M$ monopolizing computer OSes, Google seems to want to do the same thing with information or data.
i'm not too fond of that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214262</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30237876</id>
	<title>freedom of information</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259257860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I don't get is why people are so afraid of having their information stored on the cloud.<br>I mean, your information is everywhere, from a telephone book to the public offices. And everyone can get it. Anyone can find physically where you live by stalking you or by looking in some lost registry that has the name of your father.</p><p>Information wants to be free. All information. Maybe you can hide it, but hiding it in the cloud is the same as hiding it in your home computer or in your wallet. It can always be stolen. It can always be found.</p><p>Private information has its own laws to remain private; and Google follows those laws. If you say Google gave out IP's from some users (or maybe all users, it doesn't matter) in India it's because it is a law abiding company, and it did what every other company would do. If you can name one big company that cares about itself not giving information to the police, then maybe you can win the discussion about Google not letting you store your own data.</p><p>And let's not forget that it's not people that are having your information; computers own it. I trust computers more than I trust people I don't know (I mean, I trust more on the people I like than on computers, but that's just obvious) on this things, because they don't want to do evil. Just remember the good ol' days, where you gave all your personal information to the grocery owner. Was this a breach of privacy? Would you do it again? Even though the owner is a man you don't know more than the couple words you shared every day? I'm sorry, but I think computers are just better than him.</p><p>And yes, I understand that the machines are ran by people, that this can mean that computer cannot be trusted the same or more than a person, but technology is, thankfully, eliminating the middle man. No one knows where your information is stored, no one knows what they have about you, no one knows you. Get over it.</p><p>And, as the third to last paragraph explains, if the grocery owner can make my shopping more pleasant knowing my information, as Google makes my Internet browsing more comfortable by eliminating horrible necessary ads that I don't care about, I think we'll arrive to the conclusion that sharing information with a computer is better than sharing with a persona. But what do I know? I'm not Google.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I do n't get is why people are so afraid of having their information stored on the cloud.I mean , your information is everywhere , from a telephone book to the public offices .
And everyone can get it .
Anyone can find physically where you live by stalking you or by looking in some lost registry that has the name of your father.Information wants to be free .
All information .
Maybe you can hide it , but hiding it in the cloud is the same as hiding it in your home computer or in your wallet .
It can always be stolen .
It can always be found.Private information has its own laws to remain private ; and Google follows those laws .
If you say Google gave out IP 's from some users ( or maybe all users , it does n't matter ) in India it 's because it is a law abiding company , and it did what every other company would do .
If you can name one big company that cares about itself not giving information to the police , then maybe you can win the discussion about Google not letting you store your own data.And let 's not forget that it 's not people that are having your information ; computers own it .
I trust computers more than I trust people I do n't know ( I mean , I trust more on the people I like than on computers , but that 's just obvious ) on this things , because they do n't want to do evil .
Just remember the good ol ' days , where you gave all your personal information to the grocery owner .
Was this a breach of privacy ?
Would you do it again ?
Even though the owner is a man you do n't know more than the couple words you shared every day ?
I 'm sorry , but I think computers are just better than him.And yes , I understand that the machines are ran by people , that this can mean that computer can not be trusted the same or more than a person , but technology is , thankfully , eliminating the middle man .
No one knows where your information is stored , no one knows what they have about you , no one knows you .
Get over it.And , as the third to last paragraph explains , if the grocery owner can make my shopping more pleasant knowing my information , as Google makes my Internet browsing more comfortable by eliminating horrible necessary ads that I do n't care about , I think we 'll arrive to the conclusion that sharing information with a computer is better than sharing with a persona .
But what do I know ?
I 'm not Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I don't get is why people are so afraid of having their information stored on the cloud.I mean, your information is everywhere, from a telephone book to the public offices.
And everyone can get it.
Anyone can find physically where you live by stalking you or by looking in some lost registry that has the name of your father.Information wants to be free.
All information.
Maybe you can hide it, but hiding it in the cloud is the same as hiding it in your home computer or in your wallet.
It can always be stolen.
It can always be found.Private information has its own laws to remain private; and Google follows those laws.
If you say Google gave out IP's from some users (or maybe all users, it doesn't matter) in India it's because it is a law abiding company, and it did what every other company would do.
If you can name one big company that cares about itself not giving information to the police, then maybe you can win the discussion about Google not letting you store your own data.And let's not forget that it's not people that are having your information; computers own it.
I trust computers more than I trust people I don't know (I mean, I trust more on the people I like than on computers, but that's just obvious) on this things, because they don't want to do evil.
Just remember the good ol' days, where you gave all your personal information to the grocery owner.
Was this a breach of privacy?
Would you do it again?
Even though the owner is a man you don't know more than the couple words you shared every day?
I'm sorry, but I think computers are just better than him.And yes, I understand that the machines are ran by people, that this can mean that computer cannot be trusted the same or more than a person, but technology is, thankfully, eliminating the middle man.
No one knows where your information is stored, no one knows what they have about you, no one knows you.
Get over it.And, as the third to last paragraph explains, if the grocery owner can make my shopping more pleasant knowing my information, as Google makes my Internet browsing more comfortable by eliminating horrible necessary ads that I don't care about, I think we'll arrive to the conclusion that sharing information with a computer is better than sharing with a persona.
But what do I know?
I'm not Google.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214734</id>
	<title>Enjoy the free netbook kid!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259082540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tell us where the disk is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tell us where the disk is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tell us where the disk is.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216866</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259091840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>one more thing you guys are forgetting is government affiliations and capital to be gain from the data alone. also there is the ideal of an infrastructure morover standard bieng implemented which can be very benificial. it doesnt neccesarily have to be about just the ads</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>one more thing you guys are forgetting is government affiliations and capital to be gain from the data alone .
also there is the ideal of an infrastructure morover standard bieng implemented which can be very benificial .
it doesnt neccesarily have to be about just the ads</tokentext>
<sentencetext>one more thing you guys are forgetting is government affiliations and capital to be gain from the data alone.
also there is the ideal of an infrastructure morover standard bieng implemented which can be very benificial.
it doesnt neccesarily have to be about just the ads</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214432</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30217212</id>
	<title>Re:ideal for my 2 year old</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259093640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps you ought to try teaching him proper capitalization.</p><p>I suppose that means you'll need to learn it first.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps you ought to try teaching him proper capitalization.I suppose that means you 'll need to learn it first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps you ought to try teaching him proper capitalization.I suppose that means you'll need to learn it first.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214488</id>
	<title>from an ignoramus on all things Chrome OS</title>
	<author>ScottyB</author>
	<datestamp>1259081460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here I've just gotten my head around Android, and now there's Chrome OS.  Will someone please explain, why?  Why would anyone bother with Chrome OS?  I mean, weren't we just talking about a netbook with Android?</p><p>I get Android.  It's the open-source, linux-type competitor to Windows Mobile and iPhone OS, being helped by Google's name and stature in the mobile market.</p><p>But Chrome OS?  I understand netbooks will run slightly faster with linux or some lightweight variant than with Windows XP, but really, the hardware's the limitation here, not the OS.  Taking a 4-cylinder Honda Civic and reducing the weight may give you better gas mileage and a slightly higher top speed, but we're not talking much, and certainly not enough to make me at least (and I like linux!) switch to linux on my Lenovo netbook.  It's a netbook.  It surfs the web.  Learning a new OS for a netbook just doesn't have much appeal when my main system is still running Windows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here I 've just gotten my head around Android , and now there 's Chrome OS .
Will someone please explain , why ?
Why would anyone bother with Chrome OS ?
I mean , were n't we just talking about a netbook with Android ? I get Android .
It 's the open-source , linux-type competitor to Windows Mobile and iPhone OS , being helped by Google 's name and stature in the mobile market.But Chrome OS ?
I understand netbooks will run slightly faster with linux or some lightweight variant than with Windows XP , but really , the hardware 's the limitation here , not the OS .
Taking a 4-cylinder Honda Civic and reducing the weight may give you better gas mileage and a slightly higher top speed , but we 're not talking much , and certainly not enough to make me at least ( and I like linux !
) switch to linux on my Lenovo netbook .
It 's a netbook .
It surfs the web .
Learning a new OS for a netbook just does n't have much appeal when my main system is still running Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here I've just gotten my head around Android, and now there's Chrome OS.
Will someone please explain, why?
Why would anyone bother with Chrome OS?
I mean, weren't we just talking about a netbook with Android?I get Android.
It's the open-source, linux-type competitor to Windows Mobile and iPhone OS, being helped by Google's name and stature in the mobile market.But Chrome OS?
I understand netbooks will run slightly faster with linux or some lightweight variant than with Windows XP, but really, the hardware's the limitation here, not the OS.
Taking a 4-cylinder Honda Civic and reducing the weight may give you better gas mileage and a slightly higher top speed, but we're not talking much, and certainly not enough to make me at least (and I like linux!
) switch to linux on my Lenovo netbook.
It's a netbook.
It surfs the web.
Learning a new OS for a netbook just doesn't have much appeal when my main system is still running Windows.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214370</id>
	<title>No Thanks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259081040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My privacy comes with a higher price tag then just some POS hardware.</p><p>I rather have my own hardware and software that does not call home every second I'm on it and throwing ads in my face constantly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My privacy comes with a higher price tag then just some POS hardware.I rather have my own hardware and software that does not call home every second I 'm on it and throwing ads in my face constantly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My privacy comes with a higher price tag then just some POS hardware.I rather have my own hardware and software that does not call home every second I'm on it and throwing ads in my face constantly.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215404</id>
	<title>If I can get Ubuntu or hackIntosh OSX on it</title>
	<author>Ralph Spoilsport</author>
	<datestamp>1259085060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>and ditch the stupid ad-clogged OS - sure - I'll take a free computer.
<p>
It's like what Handey said:
</p><p>
<i>If you're walking down the street and a mannequin falls out of a window - go and catch it - after all, hey - it's a free dummy!</i>
</p><p>
RS</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and ditch the stupid ad-clogged OS - sure - I 'll take a free computer .
It 's like what Handey said : If you 're walking down the street and a mannequin falls out of a window - go and catch it - after all , hey - it 's a free dummy !
RS</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and ditch the stupid ad-clogged OS - sure - I'll take a free computer.
It's like what Handey said:

If you're walking down the street and a mannequin falls out of a window - go and catch it - after all, hey - it's a free dummy!
RS</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216480</id>
	<title>Re:Pay</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1259089860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most likely because this would be cheaper.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most likely because this would be cheaper .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most likely because this would be cheaper.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215016</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215658</id>
	<title>No</title>
	<author>Stan92057</author>
	<datestamp>1259086080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't want to be spied upon,its just that simple<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't want to be spied upon,its just that simple : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't want to be spied upon,its just that simple :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215380</id>
	<title>Windows 7 boils more babies!</title>
	<author>David Gerard</author>
	<datestamp>1259084940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer played down the news of Googles new Chrome OS, designed to outdo Microsoft in quickly and efficiently <a href="http://notnews.today.com/2009/11/22/chrome-oss-ability-to-boil-babies-disputed-by-microsoft/" title="today.com">boiling babies on netbooks.</a> [today.com]</p><p>Yo Sergey, shouted Ballmer, Imma really happy for you, Ill let you finish, but Windows 7 is one of the best baby roasters of all time. He slowly and lumberingly rolled a seven-foot-tall baby boiler with a Windows logo on the side onto the stage. One of the best baby roasters of all time!</p><p>Early paid press coverage for Windows 7 lauded its theoretical likelihood of boiling babies in the near future, as compared to the effects of Vista, which left many of the babies with frostbite. But we are fully confident that with Windows 7, we can get the baby up to 90, 100 degrees every time! The fine print on the benchmark results revealed these figures were Fahrenheit, not Celsius.</p><p>Microsofts derision of Chrome OS as unimportant follows Microsofts derision of the iPhone, the iPod, Google Search, the Chrome browser, Mozilla Firefox and Linux and any other competitor thats ended up kicking their lazy fat asses.  With Windows 7, Microsofts baby boiling operations will leave that Jobs asshole in the dust. In the dust!</p><p>Steve Jobs snorted in derision at his rivals pathetic attempts to do something useful, before revealing Apples new iBoil, which fits in your pocket and will lightly sautee the baby with a bechamel sauce and garnish.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer played down the news of Googles new Chrome OS , designed to outdo Microsoft in quickly and efficiently boiling babies on netbooks .
[ today.com ] Yo Sergey , shouted Ballmer , Imma really happy for you , Ill let you finish , but Windows 7 is one of the best baby roasters of all time .
He slowly and lumberingly rolled a seven-foot-tall baby boiler with a Windows logo on the side onto the stage .
One of the best baby roasters of all time ! Early paid press coverage for Windows 7 lauded its theoretical likelihood of boiling babies in the near future , as compared to the effects of Vista , which left many of the babies with frostbite .
But we are fully confident that with Windows 7 , we can get the baby up to 90 , 100 degrees every time !
The fine print on the benchmark results revealed these figures were Fahrenheit , not Celsius.Microsofts derision of Chrome OS as unimportant follows Microsofts derision of the iPhone , the iPod , Google Search , the Chrome browser , Mozilla Firefox and Linux and any other competitor thats ended up kicking their lazy fat asses .
With Windows 7 , Microsofts baby boiling operations will leave that Jobs asshole in the dust .
In the dust ! Steve Jobs snorted in derision at his rivals pathetic attempts to do something useful , before revealing Apples new iBoil , which fits in your pocket and will lightly sautee the baby with a bechamel sauce and garnish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer played down the news of Googles new Chrome OS, designed to outdo Microsoft in quickly and efficiently boiling babies on netbooks.
[today.com]Yo Sergey, shouted Ballmer, Imma really happy for you, Ill let you finish, but Windows 7 is one of the best baby roasters of all time.
He slowly and lumberingly rolled a seven-foot-tall baby boiler with a Windows logo on the side onto the stage.
One of the best baby roasters of all time!Early paid press coverage for Windows 7 lauded its theoretical likelihood of boiling babies in the near future, as compared to the effects of Vista, which left many of the babies with frostbite.
But we are fully confident that with Windows 7, we can get the baby up to 90, 100 degrees every time!
The fine print on the benchmark results revealed these figures were Fahrenheit, not Celsius.Microsofts derision of Chrome OS as unimportant follows Microsofts derision of the iPhone, the iPod, Google Search, the Chrome browser, Mozilla Firefox and Linux and any other competitor thats ended up kicking their lazy fat asses.
With Windows 7, Microsofts baby boiling operations will leave that Jobs asshole in the dust.
In the dust!Steve Jobs snorted in derision at his rivals pathetic attempts to do something useful, before revealing Apples new iBoil, which fits in your pocket and will lightly sautee the baby with a bechamel sauce and garnish.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216420</id>
	<title>Google AdSense = Microsoft's Clippy</title>
	<author>AnotherUsername</author>
	<datestamp>1259089620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you hated Clippy, imagine every single application having Google's version.  You can't turn it off.  It is always there.
<br> <br>
"It looks like you are writing a letter.  Would you like to know where you can get cheap ink, paper, and envelopes, all for one low price?"
<br> <br>
"It sounds like you are playing music!  Click here to get the latest album from the Number 1 Top 40 band this week!"
<br> <br>
"Are you watching a movie?  Click here to find where to get movie tickets to a theater near you!"
<br> <br>
It makes me shudder just to think about it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you hated Clippy , imagine every single application having Google 's version .
You ca n't turn it off .
It is always there .
" It looks like you are writing a letter .
Would you like to know where you can get cheap ink , paper , and envelopes , all for one low price ?
" " It sounds like you are playing music !
Click here to get the latest album from the Number 1 Top 40 band this week !
" " Are you watching a movie ?
Click here to find where to get movie tickets to a theater near you !
" It makes me shudder just to think about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you hated Clippy, imagine every single application having Google's version.
You can't turn it off.
It is always there.
"It looks like you are writing a letter.
Would you like to know where you can get cheap ink, paper, and envelopes, all for one low price?
"
 
"It sounds like you are playing music!
Click here to get the latest album from the Number 1 Top 40 band this week!
"
 
"Are you watching a movie?
Click here to find where to get movie tickets to a theater near you!
"
 
It makes me shudder just to think about it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214854</id>
	<title>Imagine</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259083020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A BeoWulf Cluster of those!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A BeoWulf Cluster of those !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A BeoWulf Cluster of those!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214958</id>
	<title>Gah. No.</title>
	<author>brennanw</author>
	<datestamp>1259083260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A netbook that requires internet access in order for it to function in any useful manner? What's the point of a netbook if you can't use it to type up a quick memo/article when you're flying coach on a 4 hour flight? Gah. I am not a fan.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A netbook that requires internet access in order for it to function in any useful manner ?
What 's the point of a netbook if you ca n't use it to type up a quick memo/article when you 're flying coach on a 4 hour flight ?
Gah. I am not a fan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A netbook that requires internet access in order for it to function in any useful manner?
What's the point of a netbook if you can't use it to type up a quick memo/article when you're flying coach on a 4 hour flight?
Gah. I am not a fan.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215056</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>jellomizer</author>
	<datestamp>1259083620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>$150 an hour seems like a standard consulting rate... However... Do you really think you are going to spend all your times focused on the adds. Especially google adds which don't popup etc... Heck they may even be helpful to you as you doing your work an add will come up for a product that will make your life easier as it is context sensitive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 150 an hour seems like a standard consulting rate... However... Do you really think you are going to spend all your times focused on the adds .
Especially google adds which do n't popup etc... Heck they may even be helpful to you as you doing your work an add will come up for a product that will make your life easier as it is context sensitive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$150 an hour seems like a standard consulting rate... However... Do you really think you are going to spend all your times focused on the adds.
Especially google adds which don't popup etc... Heck they may even be helpful to you as you doing your work an add will come up for a product that will make your life easier as it is context sensitive.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214402</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215892</id>
	<title>Re:Count me in</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259087220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you obviously don't live in the mountains, or fly on planes.  I use a 12" Acer with a 120GB HDD, and I d/l a carry a huge amount of email before travelling, several hours of offline work.  And I have other documents that I work on when offline, mostly in word'97 or excel'97 format (the most portable format out there now).  I have several stand-alone games that I enjoy playing (some report high-scores to a server, but that can wait till I'm back online).</p><p>So sure, for you small-time city folk 24/7 internet is a necessity, but here in the country one hour of dial-up a day is still plenty.  Though why I'm wasting bandwidth on this, even I don't know.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you obviously do n't live in the mountains , or fly on planes .
I use a 12 " Acer with a 120GB HDD , and I d/l a carry a huge amount of email before travelling , several hours of offline work .
And I have other documents that I work on when offline , mostly in word'97 or excel'97 format ( the most portable format out there now ) .
I have several stand-alone games that I enjoy playing ( some report high-scores to a server , but that can wait till I 'm back online ) .So sure , for you small-time city folk 24/7 internet is a necessity , but here in the country one hour of dial-up a day is still plenty .
Though why I 'm wasting bandwidth on this , even I do n't know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you obviously don't live in the mountains, or fly on planes.
I use a 12" Acer with a 120GB HDD, and I d/l a carry a huge amount of email before travelling, several hours of offline work.
And I have other documents that I work on when offline, mostly in word'97 or excel'97 format (the most portable format out there now).
I have several stand-alone games that I enjoy playing (some report high-scores to a server, but that can wait till I'm back online).So sure, for you small-time city folk 24/7 internet is a necessity, but here in the country one hour of dial-up a day is still plenty.
Though why I'm wasting bandwidth on this, even I don't know.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214600</id>
	<title>Next google app....</title>
	<author>digitalPhant0m</author>
	<datestamp>1259081880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google is also announcing several new products, in-line with their ideal of total homogony and conformity: 'Google Brainwash', leading up to the beta release of 'Google Existence'.<br> <br>Thanks Google, I was having a rough time thinking for myself, and making my own desicion's.<br> <br>In other related news, Microsoft, after a 25 year streak as the #1 corporation hell bent on world domination, has just been usurped.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google is also announcing several new products , in-line with their ideal of total homogony and conformity : 'Google Brainwash ' , leading up to the beta release of 'Google Existence' .
Thanks Google , I was having a rough time thinking for myself , and making my own desicion 's .
In other related news , Microsoft , after a 25 year streak as the # 1 corporation hell bent on world domination , has just been usurped .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google is also announcing several new products, in-line with their ideal of total homogony and conformity: 'Google Brainwash', leading up to the beta release of 'Google Existence'.
Thanks Google, I was having a rough time thinking for myself, and making my own desicion's.
In other related news, Microsoft, after a 25 year streak as the #1 corporation hell bent on world domination, has just been usurped.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215190</id>
	<title>They..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259084160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.. are using us as food.</p><p>Only a few more steps until we all become "batteries" in the googleplex.</p><p>Run. Run as fast as you can. Don't look back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.. are using us as food.Only a few more steps until we all become " batteries " in the googleplex.Run .
Run as fast as you can .
Do n't look back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.. are using us as food.Only a few more steps until we all become "batteries" in the googleplex.Run.
Run as fast as you can.
Don't look back.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214342</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>Glyn Moody</author>
	<datestamp>1259080920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, but what about a $20 netbook?  That's the issue: when hardware costs fall to the point that the numbers work, what happens then?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but what about a $ 20 netbook ?
That 's the issue : when hardware costs fall to the point that the numbers work , what happens then ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but what about a $20 netbook?
That's the issue: when hardware costs fall to the point that the numbers work, what happens then?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214182</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215158</id>
	<title>Define "Free"</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1259083980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Could be "given" by cellphone companies with 3g-data contracts.<br><br>But cellphone companies make me remember that they put their content or links on cellphones. When you login (with your i.e. google account) where you land? What will be the Chrome (browser) homepage in that context? Could end being your cellphone provider homepage tied with your account, if you got that way your netbook?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could be " given " by cellphone companies with 3g-data contracts.But cellphone companies make me remember that they put their content or links on cellphones .
When you login ( with your i.e .
google account ) where you land ?
What will be the Chrome ( browser ) homepage in that context ?
Could end being your cellphone provider homepage tied with your account , if you got that way your netbook ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could be "given" by cellphone companies with 3g-data contracts.But cellphone companies make me remember that they put their content or links on cellphones.
When you login (with your i.e.
google account) where you land?
What will be the Chrome (browser) homepage in that context?
Could end being your cellphone provider homepage tied with your account, if you got that way your netbook?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216122</id>
	<title>Re:You forget who you're talking to</title>
	<author>mounthood</author>
	<datestamp>1259088360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't use AdBlock, I haven't turned off<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. adds. I might be OK with a chromeOS machine as long as I can do what I want with it. <br>
<br>
Google: Well give you free hardware if you use our software.<br>
Slashdot: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't use AdBlock , I have n't turned off / .
adds. I might be OK with a chromeOS machine as long as I can do what I want with it .
Google : Well give you free hardware if you use our software .
Slashdot : I am altering the deal .
Pray I do n't alter it any further .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't use AdBlock, I haven't turned off /.
adds. I might be OK with a chromeOS machine as long as I can do what I want with it.
Google: Well give you free hardware if you use our software.
Slashdot: I am altering the deal.
Pray I don't alter it any further.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214820</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214432</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259081280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As nice as it is to think that advertisements will cover everything, a single user isn't worth a $150+ netbook.</p></div><p>Who said the netbook cost $150?  I would guess that the bulk purchases and low requirements could allow them to cut that down to sub $40 within four or five years.  And even if the netbooks had decent hardware, look at the number of servers Google runs to provide free and paid services<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... now what if you had idle processes on netbooks using up spare Atom (or whatever is out there) CPU time?  Think about it, it could be the user footing part of your server energy bill.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Another thing is that search result advertisements and even ads on gmail are worth more because they can be really targeted. But what do you advertise on a spreadsheet app? Users aren't looking for any info or such - they're working on their spreadsheet.</p></div><p>Well, your logic works both ways.  Why would I want to be bothered with ads when I'm busy working on my e-mail?  And the data in a spreadsheet says a lot, if their doing their finances, you offer them financial products.  Numbers and abbreviations give away a lot.  If they are using scientific notation, you give them scientific product ads.  It's also a single piece of Google's offerings.  Docs and gmail are much more useful to me.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>It's just out of the question that a single user would be worth $150 for Google.</p></div><p>You didn't list a lot of innovative ideas for their strategy to mitigate hardware cost and you also ignore the rapidly falling costs of hardware that the OLPC tried to take advantage of.  I'm confident that <i>if</i> they embark on this endeavor, it will be well thought out and phased.  I think you underestimate your worth in the eyes of Google and what it means to have you as a resource--both in purchasing power and generating content as a contributor.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As nice as it is to think that advertisements will cover everything , a single user is n't worth a $ 150 + netbook.Who said the netbook cost $ 150 ?
I would guess that the bulk purchases and low requirements could allow them to cut that down to sub $ 40 within four or five years .
And even if the netbooks had decent hardware , look at the number of servers Google runs to provide free and paid services ... now what if you had idle processes on netbooks using up spare Atom ( or whatever is out there ) CPU time ?
Think about it , it could be the user footing part of your server energy bill.Another thing is that search result advertisements and even ads on gmail are worth more because they can be really targeted .
But what do you advertise on a spreadsheet app ?
Users are n't looking for any info or such - they 're working on their spreadsheet.Well , your logic works both ways .
Why would I want to be bothered with ads when I 'm busy working on my e-mail ?
And the data in a spreadsheet says a lot , if their doing their finances , you offer them financial products .
Numbers and abbreviations give away a lot .
If they are using scientific notation , you give them scientific product ads .
It 's also a single piece of Google 's offerings .
Docs and gmail are much more useful to me.It 's just out of the question that a single user would be worth $ 150 for Google.You did n't list a lot of innovative ideas for their strategy to mitigate hardware cost and you also ignore the rapidly falling costs of hardware that the OLPC tried to take advantage of .
I 'm confident that if they embark on this endeavor , it will be well thought out and phased .
I think you underestimate your worth in the eyes of Google and what it means to have you as a resource--both in purchasing power and generating content as a contributor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As nice as it is to think that advertisements will cover everything, a single user isn't worth a $150+ netbook.Who said the netbook cost $150?
I would guess that the bulk purchases and low requirements could allow them to cut that down to sub $40 within four or five years.
And even if the netbooks had decent hardware, look at the number of servers Google runs to provide free and paid services ... now what if you had idle processes on netbooks using up spare Atom (or whatever is out there) CPU time?
Think about it, it could be the user footing part of your server energy bill.Another thing is that search result advertisements and even ads on gmail are worth more because they can be really targeted.
But what do you advertise on a spreadsheet app?
Users aren't looking for any info or such - they're working on their spreadsheet.Well, your logic works both ways.
Why would I want to be bothered with ads when I'm busy working on my e-mail?
And the data in a spreadsheet says a lot, if their doing their finances, you offer them financial products.
Numbers and abbreviations give away a lot.
If they are using scientific notation, you give them scientific product ads.
It's also a single piece of Google's offerings.
Docs and gmail are much more useful to me.It's just out of the question that a single user would be worth $150 for Google.You didn't list a lot of innovative ideas for their strategy to mitigate hardware cost and you also ignore the rapidly falling costs of hardware that the OLPC tried to take advantage of.
I'm confident that if they embark on this endeavor, it will be well thought out and phased.
I think you underestimate your worth in the eyes of Google and what it means to have you as a resource--both in purchasing power and generating content as a contributor.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214182</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30216214</id>
	<title>Gotta love bloggers</title>
	<author>93 Escort Wagon</author>
	<datestamp>1259088840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope the unemployment rate starts to head down soon - all these garbage submissions from people with nothing to do all day are getting annoying.</p><p>So response to Google's just announced, and still unreleased, Chrome OS is "rather lukewarm"? That's a really silly statement. Here's an idea - how about we let them release something and see how it does in the marketplace before we make statements regarding how well or how poorly it's faring?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope the unemployment rate starts to head down soon - all these garbage submissions from people with nothing to do all day are getting annoying.So response to Google 's just announced , and still unreleased , Chrome OS is " rather lukewarm " ?
That 's a really silly statement .
Here 's an idea - how about we let them release something and see how it does in the marketplace before we make statements regarding how well or how poorly it 's faring ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope the unemployment rate starts to head down soon - all these garbage submissions from people with nothing to do all day are getting annoying.So response to Google's just announced, and still unreleased, Chrome OS is "rather lukewarm"?
That's a really silly statement.
Here's an idea - how about we let them release something and see how it does in the marketplace before we make statements regarding how well or how poorly it's faring?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30220400</id>
	<title>Re:ideal for my 2 year old</title>
	<author>kuzb</author>
	<datestamp>1259065020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Parent is a troll, or a fanboy, or both.  Can't decide, don't care.</p><p>I for one wouldn't train my kids on niche machines just because I think they might turn in to geeks like me.  Train them on machines they'd run in to every day, and later if they express an interest, move them in to unix and/or linux.  Don't stuff it down their throat because you happen to have a fanboy opinion.  Use common sense, and think about practicality.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Parent is a troll , or a fanboy , or both .
Ca n't decide , do n't care.I for one would n't train my kids on niche machines just because I think they might turn in to geeks like me .
Train them on machines they 'd run in to every day , and later if they express an interest , move them in to unix and/or linux .
Do n't stuff it down their throat because you happen to have a fanboy opinion .
Use common sense , and think about practicality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Parent is a troll, or a fanboy, or both.
Can't decide, don't care.I for one wouldn't train my kids on niche machines just because I think they might turn in to geeks like me.
Train them on machines they'd run in to every day, and later if they express an interest, move them in to unix and/or linux.
Don't stuff it down their throat because you happen to have a fanboy opinion.
Use common sense, and think about practicality.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214648</id>
	<title>Interesting Historical Perspective</title>
	<author>Like2Byte</author>
	<datestamp>1259082120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The good gents at IBM didn't see the value in the "Operating System" Microsoft was selling them.</p><p>The good gents at Microsoft didn't see the value in monitoring what their users' daily activity on their respective OS was.</p><p>I wonder what the good gents at Google are ignoring today that will be a gold mine tomorrow.</p><p>---</p><p>On another note: I'm very surprised that people are all that interested in what is, essentially, a SpyOS. Forget tracking cookies - this OS is going to be tracking people's behavior 24 hours a day.</p><p>Not to provide any ideas into advanced Spywware under the guise of "free useful PC" but imagine if there is a GPS in the netbook that is able to track the users' movements. Traffic patterns, of the individual, could be analyzed and combined with other users and applicable advertising will show up for 'popular' products both in on-line advertising and roadside billboards.</p><p>I don't want to get too far off topic so I'll ask this question: When did we turn the corner of being Anti-Spyware to being Pro-Spyware?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The good gents at IBM did n't see the value in the " Operating System " Microsoft was selling them.The good gents at Microsoft did n't see the value in monitoring what their users ' daily activity on their respective OS was.I wonder what the good gents at Google are ignoring today that will be a gold mine tomorrow.---On another note : I 'm very surprised that people are all that interested in what is , essentially , a SpyOS .
Forget tracking cookies - this OS is going to be tracking people 's behavior 24 hours a day.Not to provide any ideas into advanced Spywware under the guise of " free useful PC " but imagine if there is a GPS in the netbook that is able to track the users ' movements .
Traffic patterns , of the individual , could be analyzed and combined with other users and applicable advertising will show up for 'popular ' products both in on-line advertising and roadside billboards.I do n't want to get too far off topic so I 'll ask this question : When did we turn the corner of being Anti-Spyware to being Pro-Spyware ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The good gents at IBM didn't see the value in the "Operating System" Microsoft was selling them.The good gents at Microsoft didn't see the value in monitoring what their users' daily activity on their respective OS was.I wonder what the good gents at Google are ignoring today that will be a gold mine tomorrow.---On another note: I'm very surprised that people are all that interested in what is, essentially, a SpyOS.
Forget tracking cookies - this OS is going to be tracking people's behavior 24 hours a day.Not to provide any ideas into advanced Spywware under the guise of "free useful PC" but imagine if there is a GPS in the netbook that is able to track the users' movements.
Traffic patterns, of the individual, could be analyzed and combined with other users and applicable advertising will show up for 'popular' products both in on-line advertising and roadside billboards.I don't want to get too far off topic so I'll ask this question: When did we turn the corner of being Anti-Spyware to being Pro-Spyware?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30221246</id>
	<title>Sure...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259069940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>as long as I can log in as "Anonymous Coward".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>as long as I can log in as " Anonymous Coward " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as long as I can log in as "Anonymous Coward".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30217354</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>simplu</author>
	<datestamp>1259094420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Never? Bill, is it you?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Never ?
Bill , is it you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Never?
Bill, is it you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215682</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30217752</id>
	<title>Re:Not possible</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1259096160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem is not that your attention is going to be focused on ads but that<br>it probably won't be completely focused on your "work". The adware interface<br>is going to degrade the quality of the rest of the system and your "work". It<br>will probably do so to an amount far greater than what you save buy agreeing to<br>take the "free" system to begin with.</p><p>The adware will devalue the end user experience more than it will enrich Google.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is not that your attention is going to be focused on ads but thatit probably wo n't be completely focused on your " work " .
The adware interfaceis going to degrade the quality of the rest of the system and your " work " .
Itwill probably do so to an amount far greater than what you save buy agreeing totake the " free " system to begin with.The adware will devalue the end user experience more than it will enrich Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is not that your attention is going to be focused on ads but thatit probably won't be completely focused on your "work".
The adware interfaceis going to degrade the quality of the rest of the system and your "work".
Itwill probably do so to an amount far greater than what you save buy agreeing totake the "free" system to begin with.The adware will devalue the end user experience more than it will enrich Google.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30215056</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214714</id>
	<title>Re:A free \_netbook\_?</title>
	<author>postbigbang</author>
	<datestamp>1259082360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It would be a freaking toy. You'd end up using your main computer because at that price, the darn thing is almost disposable.</p><p>And if it had a cell modem in it, it would end up costing you a lot more than free, $150/whatever.</p><p>Plastic tinker-toy tools are for those that just play around. Buying something with quality helps-- despite the fact that today's quad-core notebook has a half-life of only three years if we're lucky.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would be a freaking toy .
You 'd end up using your main computer because at that price , the darn thing is almost disposable.And if it had a cell modem in it , it would end up costing you a lot more than free , $ 150/whatever.Plastic tinker-toy tools are for those that just play around .
Buying something with quality helps-- despite the fact that today 's quad-core notebook has a half-life of only three years if we 're lucky .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would be a freaking toy.
You'd end up using your main computer because at that price, the darn thing is almost disposable.And if it had a cell modem in it, it would end up costing you a lot more than free, $150/whatever.Plastic tinker-toy tools are for those that just play around.
Buying something with quality helps-- despite the fact that today's quad-core notebook has a half-life of only three years if we're lucky.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214238</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214260</id>
	<title>Much like the I-opener</title>
	<author>asicsolutions</author>
	<datestamp>1259080620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Someone will figure out how to hack it and use it for whatever you want.</p><p>Sign me up</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone will figure out how to hack it and use it for whatever you want.Sign me up</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone will figure out how to hack it and use it for whatever you want.Sign me up</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214726</id>
	<title>Re:No I won't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259082420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OF course you wont, and neither will any of  the other<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.005\% users who need a computer to work that way.</p><p>GoogleOS fits into it because free-as-in-speech software is much bigger then you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OF course you wont , and neither will any of the other .005 \ % users who need a computer to work that way.GoogleOS fits into it because free-as-in-speech software is much bigger then you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OF course you wont, and neither will any of  the other .005\% users who need a computer to work that way.GoogleOS fits into it because free-as-in-speech software is much bigger then you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214262</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_24_1517229.30214534</id>
	<title>Re:No I won't</title>
	<author>ProppaT</author>
	<datestamp>1259081580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You realize that this machine is intended for browsing the internet and updating your blog on the couch or at *bucks, not replacing your normal computer, right?  No one is expecting anyone to get work done on this thing...it'd be too small to be a productive work computer to begin with...but it'd be good enough for social networking, instant messaging, e-mail, etc.</p><p>You can't have it both ways.  You want total control over all your software on a free machine?  That's never going to happen.  I suspect a tool like this would be perfect for older people who just want to e-mail their kids/grandkids and check their bank account and perfect for younger people who don't have the money for a netbook or laptop but want a portable internet device.  Not to mention college students who want something small and portable for taking notes in class.  There really is a lot of potential to the device, although I don't see anyone getting it for free.  Maybe $50, but free is a stretch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You realize that this machine is intended for browsing the internet and updating your blog on the couch or at * bucks , not replacing your normal computer , right ?
No one is expecting anyone to get work done on this thing...it 'd be too small to be a productive work computer to begin with...but it 'd be good enough for social networking , instant messaging , e-mail , etc.You ca n't have it both ways .
You want total control over all your software on a free machine ?
That 's never going to happen .
I suspect a tool like this would be perfect for older people who just want to e-mail their kids/grandkids and check their bank account and perfect for younger people who do n't have the money for a netbook or laptop but want a portable internet device .
Not to mention college students who want something small and portable for taking notes in class .
There really is a lot of potential to the device , although I do n't see anyone getting it for free .
Maybe $ 50 , but free is a stretch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You realize that this machine is intended for browsing the internet and updating your blog on the couch or at *bucks, not replacing your normal computer, right?
No one is expecting anyone to get work done on this thing...it'd be too small to be a productive work computer to begin with...but it'd be good enough for social networking, instant messaging, e-mail, etc.You can't have it both ways.
You want total control over all your software on a free machine?
That's never going to happen.
I suspect a tool like this would be perfect for older people who just want to e-mail their kids/grandkids and check their bank account and perfect for younger people who don't have the money for a netbook or laptop but want a portable internet device.
Not to mention college students who want something small and portable for taking notes in class.
There really is a lot of potential to the device, although I don't see anyone getting it for free.
Maybe $50, but free is a stretch.</sentencetext>
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	<title>What about throwaways?</title>
	<author>winthrop</author>
	<datestamp>1259080680000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>If google offered completely free netbooks, people would use them as disposable, costing google tons of money.  Even subsidized hardware like game consoles relies on the fact that the consumer is putting some investment in, so they'll probably increase their investment over time by buying games, and not just throw it out and get a new one every month because they feel like it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If google offered completely free netbooks , people would use them as disposable , costing google tons of money .
Even subsidized hardware like game consoles relies on the fact that the consumer is putting some investment in , so they 'll probably increase their investment over time by buying games , and not just throw it out and get a new one every month because they feel like it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If google offered completely free netbooks, people would use them as disposable, costing google tons of money.
Even subsidized hardware like game consoles relies on the fact that the consumer is putting some investment in, so they'll probably increase their investment over time by buying games, and not just throw it out and get a new one every month because they feel like it.</sentencetext>
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