<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_11_21_2351245</id>
	<title>Ten Things Mobile Phones Will Make Obsolete</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1258804920000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"recombu.com has an article examining <a href="http://recombu.com/news/ten-things-mobiles-have-made-or-will-make-obsolete\_M11191.html">ten things mobile phones will make obsolete</a>, including phone booths, wristwatches and handheld games consoles. It's interesting to see how many devices have been absorbed into mobile phone technology, and it raises the question: are we better off having everything in one device? The author poignantly concludes that while it's great to have so much power at our fingertips, it does mean that some of us will rely on mobile phones for even basic mental tasks, which is great until the battery runs out."</i> See also Isaac Asimov's <em> <a href="http://downlode.org/Etext/power.html">The Feeling of Power</a>.</em></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " recombu.com has an article examining ten things mobile phones will make obsolete , including phone booths , wristwatches and handheld games consoles .
It 's interesting to see how many devices have been absorbed into mobile phone technology , and it raises the question : are we better off having everything in one device ?
The author poignantly concludes that while it 's great to have so much power at our fingertips , it does mean that some of us will rely on mobile phones for even basic mental tasks , which is great until the battery runs out .
" See also Isaac Asimov 's The Feeling of Power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "recombu.com has an article examining ten things mobile phones will make obsolete, including phone booths, wristwatches and handheld games consoles.
It's interesting to see how many devices have been absorbed into mobile phone technology, and it raises the question: are we better off having everything in one device?
The author poignantly concludes that while it's great to have so much power at our fingertips, it does mean that some of us will rely on mobile phones for even basic mental tasks, which is great until the battery runs out.
" See also Isaac Asimov's  The Feeling of Power.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192208</id>
	<title>Re:A load of BS</title>
	<author>houghi</author>
	<datestamp>1258888740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If I am going to do work during my commute it will be on a laptop or netbook, not a mobile. I suspect a lot of people feel the same way.</p></div> </blockquote><p>I would love it if all the people who use their Blackberry to email replies would do the same.<br>I can wait an hour for those people to get to adesk and send a reply. If I can't, I will phone you. Oh and stop emailing. "Will get back later to that." or "Thanks."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I am going to do work during my commute it will be on a laptop or netbook , not a mobile .
I suspect a lot of people feel the same way .
I would love it if all the people who use their Blackberry to email replies would do the same.I can wait an hour for those people to get to adesk and send a reply .
If I ca n't , I will phone you .
Oh and stop emailing .
" Will get back later to that .
" or " Thanks .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I am going to do work during my commute it will be on a laptop or netbook, not a mobile.
I suspect a lot of people feel the same way.
I would love it if all the people who use their Blackberry to email replies would do the same.I can wait an hour for those people to get to adesk and send a reply.
If I can't, I will phone you.
Oh and stop emailing.
"Will get back later to that.
" or "Thanks.
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190492</id>
	<title>Re:Five more things mobile p... make obs...e</title>
	<author>Convector</author>
	<datestamp>1258818660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, #4 is still true.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , # 4 is still true .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, #4 is still true.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30193926</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>tbuskey</author>
	<datestamp>1258909680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I have yet to see a phone that can take anywhere near as good a picture as some of the most basic point and shoot cameras.</p></div><p>I have yet to see a P&amp;S phone or DSLR that you left at home take as good a picture as the phone you have with you.</p><p>I always have my phone with me so I always have a camera with me.  If I want to take a serious photo, I'll bring the SLR.  Or a party I'll bring the P&amp;S.  When I forget, at least I have the phone camera.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have yet to see a phone that can take anywhere near as good a picture as some of the most basic point and shoot cameras.I have yet to see a P&amp;S phone or DSLR that you left at home take as good a picture as the phone you have with you.I always have my phone with me so I always have a camera with me .
If I want to take a serious photo , I 'll bring the SLR .
Or a party I 'll bring the P&amp;S .
When I forget , at least I have the phone camera .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have yet to see a phone that can take anywhere near as good a picture as some of the most basic point and shoot cameras.I have yet to see a P&amp;S phone or DSLR that you left at home take as good a picture as the phone you have with you.I always have my phone with me so I always have a camera with me.
If I want to take a serious photo, I'll bring the SLR.
Or a party I'll bring the P&amp;S.
When I forget, at least I have the phone camera.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189354</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190410</id>
	<title>Re:Same Old Song, A Jack of all Trades</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258817640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What would you say is lacking from the iPhone music functions that an iPod or Zune is better for having?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What would you say is lacking from the iPhone music functions that an iPod or Zune is better for having ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What would you say is lacking from the iPhone music functions that an iPod or Zune is better for having?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189500</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191464</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>jonwil</author>
	<datestamp>1258831620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given how sucky cellphone cameras are, why do manufacturers continue to bother putting them in? Who is driving this? Are the manufacturers doing this for their benefit? At the behest of the carriers? Because consumers actually (gasp) WANT a crappy camera in their cellphone and dont care that its crap?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given how sucky cellphone cameras are , why do manufacturers continue to bother putting them in ?
Who is driving this ?
Are the manufacturers doing this for their benefit ?
At the behest of the carriers ?
Because consumers actually ( gasp ) WANT a crappy camera in their cellphone and dont care that its crap ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given how sucky cellphone cameras are, why do manufacturers continue to bother putting them in?
Who is driving this?
Are the manufacturers doing this for their benefit?
At the behest of the carriers?
Because consumers actually (gasp) WANT a crappy camera in their cellphone and dont care that its crap?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189354</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30199952</id>
	<title>Digital Wallets</title>
	<author>mduffy-austin</author>
	<datestamp>1259008320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One of the key things this article missed is wallets.  We will soon have digital wallets on cell phones that will store all of our identity and financial credentials (with exceptional security against fraudulent transactions).</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the key things this article missed is wallets .
We will soon have digital wallets on cell phones that will store all of our identity and financial credentials ( with exceptional security against fraudulent transactions ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the key things this article missed is wallets.
We will soon have digital wallets on cell phones that will store all of our identity and financial credentials (with exceptional security against fraudulent transactions).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189356</id>
	<title>!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>Itninja</author>
	<datestamp>1258809180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe it's the Aspergers that makes me obsess about things being technically correct, but <i>begging</i> a question if very different from <i> raising</i> a question. Just saying.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe it 's the Aspergers that makes me obsess about things being technically correct , but begging a question if very different from raising a question .
Just saying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe it's the Aspergers that makes me obsess about things being technically correct, but begging a question if very different from  raising a question.
Just saying.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190276</id>
	<title>Re:I'll Keep My Wristwatch, Thanks</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1258816260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A lot of people have posted this. What the hell do you guys do that you need to look at the time so often? I look at the time maybe once per day, max... at work, I can look at my computer screen (or the one on the projector at meetings), at home I have clocks in every room I need them in...</p><p>The only time I need to look at the clock is walking to the train station after work, and even then I only need to look if I happen to be running late. (I know about how long it takes, so if there's no risk of missing the train, no point in looking at my watch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A lot of people have posted this .
What the hell do you guys do that you need to look at the time so often ?
I look at the time maybe once per day , max... at work , I can look at my computer screen ( or the one on the projector at meetings ) , at home I have clocks in every room I need them in...The only time I need to look at the clock is walking to the train station after work , and even then I only need to look if I happen to be running late .
( I know about how long it takes , so if there 's no risk of missing the train , no point in looking at my watch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lot of people have posted this.
What the hell do you guys do that you need to look at the time so often?
I look at the time maybe once per day, max... at work, I can look at my computer screen (or the one on the projector at meetings), at home I have clocks in every room I need them in...The only time I need to look at the clock is walking to the train station after work, and even then I only need to look if I happen to be running late.
(I know about how long it takes, so if there's no risk of missing the train, no point in looking at my watch.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30193248</id>
	<title>Money</title>
	<author>inthealpine</author>
	<datestamp>1258904520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A savings account is going to be obsolete by the time the mobile cell companies get done with their creative billing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A savings account is going to be obsolete by the time the mobile cell companies get done with their creative billing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A savings account is going to be obsolete by the time the mobile cell companies get done with their creative billing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189780</id>
	<title>6th sense</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1258812660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Portable devices are converging, and cellphones so far are the main target of that convergence. But they are evolving. Started looking just as a bit more than a (big) keypad, added display that grew over time to be all display in touchscreens, added fast cpus and plenty of memory, photo/video cameras, gps/accelerometers and other sensors, etc. In a short future could be seen more as portable internet devices than phones, and its shape and way to use could evolve even more.

</p><p>How they will end if start adopting the features of i.e. <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/pattie\_maes\_demos\_the\_sixth\_sense.html" title="ted.com">SixthSense</a> [ted.com] or other approachs to user interfaces? More than cellphones will be called Augmented Reality Devices?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Portable devices are converging , and cellphones so far are the main target of that convergence .
But they are evolving .
Started looking just as a bit more than a ( big ) keypad , added display that grew over time to be all display in touchscreens , added fast cpus and plenty of memory , photo/video cameras , gps/accelerometers and other sensors , etc .
In a short future could be seen more as portable internet devices than phones , and its shape and way to use could evolve even more .
How they will end if start adopting the features of i.e .
SixthSense [ ted.com ] or other approachs to user interfaces ?
More than cellphones will be called Augmented Reality Devices ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Portable devices are converging, and cellphones so far are the main target of that convergence.
But they are evolving.
Started looking just as a bit more than a (big) keypad, added display that grew over time to be all display in touchscreens, added fast cpus and plenty of memory, photo/video cameras, gps/accelerometers and other sensors, etc.
In a short future could be seen more as portable internet devices than phones, and its shape and way to use could evolve even more.
How they will end if start adopting the features of i.e.
SixthSense [ted.com] or other approachs to user interfaces?
More than cellphones will be called Augmented Reality Devices?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30195330</id>
	<title>Handhelds aren't going anywhere.</title>
	<author>Akira Kogami</author>
	<datestamp>1258920060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's no way handheld game consoles will be obsoleted by cell phones until one of the big console makers makes a handheld that's designed as a game console first and a phone second. Most gamers won't completely switch over to something that's all touch screen or uses cell phone buttons to play (N-gage, anyone?)</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's no way handheld game consoles will be obsoleted by cell phones until one of the big console makers makes a handheld that 's designed as a game console first and a phone second .
Most gamers wo n't completely switch over to something that 's all touch screen or uses cell phone buttons to play ( N-gage , anyone ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's no way handheld game consoles will be obsoleted by cell phones until one of the big console makers makes a handheld that's designed as a game console first and a phone second.
Most gamers won't completely switch over to something that's all touch screen or uses cell phone buttons to play (N-gage, anyone?
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189724</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258812120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; begging a question if very different from raising a question</p><p>We all have our little pet peeves. For instance, it is clearly lunacy to talk about "meteoric rise", since meteors do not rise, they fall dammit! Or "quantum leap", which is truly an advance of microscopic proportions! Or "two times more" (= 3x) used when "two times as much" (= 2x) is meant! But gots to move with the times, buddy. Gots to move with the times.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; begging a question if very different from raising a questionWe all have our little pet peeves .
For instance , it is clearly lunacy to talk about " meteoric rise " , since meteors do not rise , they fall dammit !
Or " quantum leap " , which is truly an advance of microscopic proportions !
Or " two times more " ( = 3x ) used when " two times as much " ( = 2x ) is meant !
But gots to move with the times , buddy .
Gots to move with the times .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; begging a question if very different from raising a questionWe all have our little pet peeves.
For instance, it is clearly lunacy to talk about "meteoric rise", since meteors do not rise, they fall dammit!
Or "quantum leap", which is truly an advance of microscopic proportions!
Or "two times more" (= 3x) used when "two times as much" (= 2x) is meant!
But gots to move with the times, buddy.
Gots to move with the times.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191078</id>
	<title>The previous commentors are idiots</title>
	<author>ShooterNeo</author>
	<datestamp>1258826580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People, people, this debate is very simple and obvious.</p><p>For any given electronic device of a given size and cost, a specialty device will always do a better job than a generalist device.  A portable ipod is (slightly) better than an iphone.  A portable game player such as a PSP or DS is also better than an iphone.  Handheld GPS systems, same story.  A watch is a better time keeping device than a cell phone, with more time related features.  A compact digital camera with a bigger lens is much better than the camera in a phone.  And so on and so forth.</p><p>But the point is, for MOST users 99\% of the time, the inferior function on your cell phone, especially a cutting edge phone like the iphone or the Droid DOES THE JOB.  You only lose a few seconds pulling your phone out rather than looking at your watch.  The pictures taken by the camera on the iphone or droid are more than sharp enough for posting to a resolution limited site like facebook.  The iphone has a fairly good GPU, and many small and creative 2d games work great on it, so it's almost as entertaining as the PSP or DS.  The GPS may be a little fuzzy, but it's usually close enough to find your way around.  And so on.</p><p>So, the inferiority of the phone's functions are nearly always MASSIVELY OUTWEIGHED by the fact that you only carry ONE device rather than a whole batman belt worth of them.  Size and weight and convenience means that for 99\% of users, it's easier and cheaper just to buy a smartphone and use it exclusively for all of the above functions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People , people , this debate is very simple and obvious.For any given electronic device of a given size and cost , a specialty device will always do a better job than a generalist device .
A portable ipod is ( slightly ) better than an iphone .
A portable game player such as a PSP or DS is also better than an iphone .
Handheld GPS systems , same story .
A watch is a better time keeping device than a cell phone , with more time related features .
A compact digital camera with a bigger lens is much better than the camera in a phone .
And so on and so forth.But the point is , for MOST users 99 \ % of the time , the inferior function on your cell phone , especially a cutting edge phone like the iphone or the Droid DOES THE JOB .
You only lose a few seconds pulling your phone out rather than looking at your watch .
The pictures taken by the camera on the iphone or droid are more than sharp enough for posting to a resolution limited site like facebook .
The iphone has a fairly good GPU , and many small and creative 2d games work great on it , so it 's almost as entertaining as the PSP or DS .
The GPS may be a little fuzzy , but it 's usually close enough to find your way around .
And so on.So , the inferiority of the phone 's functions are nearly always MASSIVELY OUTWEIGHED by the fact that you only carry ONE device rather than a whole batman belt worth of them .
Size and weight and convenience means that for 99 \ % of users , it 's easier and cheaper just to buy a smartphone and use it exclusively for all of the above functions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People, people, this debate is very simple and obvious.For any given electronic device of a given size and cost, a specialty device will always do a better job than a generalist device.
A portable ipod is (slightly) better than an iphone.
A portable game player such as a PSP or DS is also better than an iphone.
Handheld GPS systems, same story.
A watch is a better time keeping device than a cell phone, with more time related features.
A compact digital camera with a bigger lens is much better than the camera in a phone.
And so on and so forth.But the point is, for MOST users 99\% of the time, the inferior function on your cell phone, especially a cutting edge phone like the iphone or the Droid DOES THE JOB.
You only lose a few seconds pulling your phone out rather than looking at your watch.
The pictures taken by the camera on the iphone or droid are more than sharp enough for posting to a resolution limited site like facebook.
The iphone has a fairly good GPU, and many small and creative 2d games work great on it, so it's almost as entertaining as the PSP or DS.
The GPS may be a little fuzzy, but it's usually close enough to find your way around.
And so on.So, the inferiority of the phone's functions are nearly always MASSIVELY OUTWEIGHED by the fact that you only carry ONE device rather than a whole batman belt worth of them.
Size and weight and convenience means that for 99\% of users, it's easier and cheaper just to buy a smartphone and use it exclusively for all of the above functions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190038</id>
	<title>Re:A load of BS</title>
	<author>MeatBag PussRocket</author>
	<datestamp>1258814460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>mainframes didnt go away. they're still in use in many environments and are actually becoming popular again in a \_slightly\_ altered guise: virtualization.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>mainframes didnt go away .
they 're still in use in many environments and are actually becoming popular again in a \ _slightly \ _ altered guise : virtualization .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mainframes didnt go away.
they're still in use in many environments and are actually becoming popular again in a \_slightly\_ altered guise: virtualization.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30194144</id>
	<title>Re:The previous commentors are idiots</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258911120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your points are not valid.  iPod Touch is exactly the same as iPhone.  Specialized GPS devices just plain suck and gaming is more fun with iPhone. Go figure.  Your statement about watches must be a bad joke.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your points are not valid .
iPod Touch is exactly the same as iPhone .
Specialized GPS devices just plain suck and gaming is more fun with iPhone .
Go figure .
Your statement about watches must be a bad joke .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your points are not valid.
iPod Touch is exactly the same as iPhone.
Specialized GPS devices just plain suck and gaming is more fun with iPhone.
Go figure.
Your statement about watches must be a bad joke.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191078</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30195354</id>
	<title>Re:A load of BS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258920240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i> Gaming on a phone is awful. Unless that is properly addressed, then the likes of the Nintendo DS won't have to worry and I'm sure Nintendo isn't seeing how many DS units they're selling.  </i></p><p>You obviously have never owned an iPhone. Games are alot more fun on that than on the DS, graphics are way better (about that of a PSP), and games are a hell of a lot cheaper too. Anyone that says otherwise, just doesn't like mobile gaming, or then hasn't spent any time trying it out. Or then just hates the iPhone so much they're willing to lie about their experience on it, to bash it.</p><p>And btw: Gaming on the Android looks to be great too -- assuming the appropriate hardware is present in the target phone (mostly graphics). Some great games are on their way. Check out a game called RADIANT by Hexage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gaming on a phone is awful .
Unless that is properly addressed , then the likes of the Nintendo DS wo n't have to worry and I 'm sure Nintendo is n't seeing how many DS units they 're selling .
You obviously have never owned an iPhone .
Games are alot more fun on that than on the DS , graphics are way better ( about that of a PSP ) , and games are a hell of a lot cheaper too .
Anyone that says otherwise , just does n't like mobile gaming , or then has n't spent any time trying it out .
Or then just hates the iPhone so much they 're willing to lie about their experience on it , to bash it.And btw : Gaming on the Android looks to be great too -- assuming the appropriate hardware is present in the target phone ( mostly graphics ) .
Some great games are on their way .
Check out a game called RADIANT by Hexage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Gaming on a phone is awful.
Unless that is properly addressed, then the likes of the Nintendo DS won't have to worry and I'm sure Nintendo isn't seeing how many DS units they're selling.
You obviously have never owned an iPhone.
Games are alot more fun on that than on the DS, graphics are way better (about that of a PSP), and games are a hell of a lot cheaper too.
Anyone that says otherwise, just doesn't like mobile gaming, or then hasn't spent any time trying it out.
Or then just hates the iPhone so much they're willing to lie about their experience on it, to bash it.And btw: Gaming on the Android looks to be great too -- assuming the appropriate hardware is present in the target phone (mostly graphics).
Some great games are on their way.
Check out a game called RADIANT by Hexage.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30212380</id>
	<title>Netbook + Mobile Phone</title>
	<author>mahadiga</author>
	<datestamp>1259070360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Instead of squeezing Netbook/Laptop features into Mobile Phones, why not <i>integrate</i> Mobile Phone in Netbooks/Laptops?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Instead of squeezing Netbook/Laptop features into Mobile Phones , why not integrate Mobile Phone in Netbooks/Laptops ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Instead of squeezing Netbook/Laptop features into Mobile Phones, why not integrate Mobile Phone in Netbooks/Laptops?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30194474</id>
	<title>PND</title>
	<author>mcshicks</author>
	<datestamp>1258913220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Article misses the most obvious thing that phones have already started replacing which is portable network devices, i.e. GPS in the car.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Article misses the most obvious thing that phones have already started replacing which is portable network devices , i.e .
GPS in the car .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Article misses the most obvious thing that phones have already started replacing which is portable network devices, i.e.
GPS in the car.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189734</id>
	<title>No, it won't!</title>
	<author>Seth Kriticos</author>
	<datestamp>1258812180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First off: a mobile phone has quite a limited interaction possibility due to the small size and no real specialization.<br>Second, and most important: most people can't grasp even a small portion of what little their phone can.</p><p>Sure, some folks use it as replacement for an alarm and watch. Inbuilt camera is also cute, though not even suited for good vacation photos, much less professional ones.</p><p>Games will stay with DS and PSP, and they won't loose sleep over it. Did not even see many people using their phones for music, though that would be a possibility (thanks RIAA).</p><p>Practically the only 2 thing mobile phones changed were, that people were more often reachable via phone (which they mostly don't pick up anyway) and everyone is typing those damn SMS all the time.</p><p>Now stop dreaming, face reality. Seriously..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First off : a mobile phone has quite a limited interaction possibility due to the small size and no real specialization.Second , and most important : most people ca n't grasp even a small portion of what little their phone can.Sure , some folks use it as replacement for an alarm and watch .
Inbuilt camera is also cute , though not even suited for good vacation photos , much less professional ones.Games will stay with DS and PSP , and they wo n't loose sleep over it .
Did not even see many people using their phones for music , though that would be a possibility ( thanks RIAA ) .Practically the only 2 thing mobile phones changed were , that people were more often reachable via phone ( which they mostly do n't pick up anyway ) and everyone is typing those damn SMS all the time.Now stop dreaming , face reality .
Seriously. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First off: a mobile phone has quite a limited interaction possibility due to the small size and no real specialization.Second, and most important: most people can't grasp even a small portion of what little their phone can.Sure, some folks use it as replacement for an alarm and watch.
Inbuilt camera is also cute, though not even suited for good vacation photos, much less professional ones.Games will stay with DS and PSP, and they won't loose sleep over it.
Did not even see many people using their phones for music, though that would be a possibility (thanks RIAA).Practically the only 2 thing mobile phones changed were, that people were more often reachable via phone (which they mostly don't pick up anyway) and everyone is typing those damn SMS all the time.Now stop dreaming, face reality.
Seriously..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189826</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258812900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you've never been to Japan...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you 've never been to Japan.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you've never been to Japan...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30198884</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258906260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>To me it's sort of like folks that regularly use the word 'average' when they mean 'median'.</p></div><p>The median is a type of average, so the usage would be correct, although imprecise.  I understand it can also lead to confusion, since it is most often associated with the mean.</p><p>The mode is also an average, btw.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To me it 's sort of like folks that regularly use the word 'average ' when they mean 'median'.The median is a type of average , so the usage would be correct , although imprecise .
I understand it can also lead to confusion , since it is most often associated with the mean.The mode is also an average , btw .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To me it's sort of like folks that regularly use the word 'average' when they mean 'median'.The median is a type of average, so the usage would be correct, although imprecise.
I understand it can also lead to confusion, since it is most often associated with the mean.The mode is also an average, btw.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190680</id>
	<title>Watches....</title>
	<author>Ritchie70</author>
	<datestamp>1258821000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The article author claims to not know anyone who wears a watch.</p><p>I haven't noticed really, but in my circles I think most everyone wears a watch.</p><p>I have a box full of watches myself, from a $10 Casio (analog, not digital) that keeps fantastic time - truly amazing - to a "OMG what did you spend on that" from my wife.</p><p>It's darn hard to subtly slip your phone out of your pocket and check the time in a meeting. A little flick of the wrist with your hand in your lap, on the other hand....</p><p>And the converse is true, too. Nothing says "shut up and get to it" like pointedly looking at your watch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The article author claims to not know anyone who wears a watch.I have n't noticed really , but in my circles I think most everyone wears a watch.I have a box full of watches myself , from a $ 10 Casio ( analog , not digital ) that keeps fantastic time - truly amazing - to a " OMG what did you spend on that " from my wife.It 's darn hard to subtly slip your phone out of your pocket and check the time in a meeting .
A little flick of the wrist with your hand in your lap , on the other hand....And the converse is true , too .
Nothing says " shut up and get to it " like pointedly looking at your watch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article author claims to not know anyone who wears a watch.I haven't noticed really, but in my circles I think most everyone wears a watch.I have a box full of watches myself, from a $10 Casio (analog, not digital) that keeps fantastic time - truly amazing - to a "OMG what did you spend on that" from my wife.It's darn hard to subtly slip your phone out of your pocket and check the time in a meeting.
A little flick of the wrist with your hand in your lap, on the other hand....And the converse is true, too.
Nothing says "shut up and get to it" like pointedly looking at your watch.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189988</id>
	<title>In case you didn't catch all ten</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258814160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Phone boxes - Good riddance <br> <br>

Wristwatches - Not a chance.  I've tried doing it since my last watch broke, but have hated it the entire time.  Can't wait until I can get the inclination to go find a new watch.<br> <br>


Bedside alarm clocks - Possibly, but if my blackberry is any indication, they really need to improve the software.  Kind of sad that it still only allows 1 alarm.<br> <br>


MP3 players - Seem to be on their way towards overtaking them.<br> <br>


Landline home phones - I know several people including myself who haven't had a landline phone in a while.<br> <br>


Compact digital cameras - How long until they offer anything comparable to a decent digital camera.  They replace the cheap point-and-click thing, sure, but anything respectable?<br> <br>


Netbooks - Too small and no keyboard.<br> <br>


Handheld games consoles - It's hard to replace the dedicated hardware.  Maybe someday though.<br> <br>


Paper - How many times has this been claimed?<br> <br>


Thinking &ndash; If we count this category, then hasn't thinking been replaced for a while now?  Either we consider thinking as already having been replaced or cell phones won't make change things much more.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Phone boxes - Good riddance Wristwatches - Not a chance .
I 've tried doing it since my last watch broke , but have hated it the entire time .
Ca n't wait until I can get the inclination to go find a new watch .
Bedside alarm clocks - Possibly , but if my blackberry is any indication , they really need to improve the software .
Kind of sad that it still only allows 1 alarm .
MP3 players - Seem to be on their way towards overtaking them .
Landline home phones - I know several people including myself who have n't had a landline phone in a while .
Compact digital cameras - How long until they offer anything comparable to a decent digital camera .
They replace the cheap point-and-click thing , sure , but anything respectable ?
Netbooks - Too small and no keyboard .
Handheld games consoles - It 's hard to replace the dedicated hardware .
Maybe someday though .
Paper - How many times has this been claimed ?
Thinking    If we count this category , then has n't thinking been replaced for a while now ?
Either we consider thinking as already having been replaced or cell phones wo n't make change things much more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Phone boxes - Good riddance  

Wristwatches - Not a chance.
I've tried doing it since my last watch broke, but have hated it the entire time.
Can't wait until I can get the inclination to go find a new watch.
Bedside alarm clocks - Possibly, but if my blackberry is any indication, they really need to improve the software.
Kind of sad that it still only allows 1 alarm.
MP3 players - Seem to be on their way towards overtaking them.
Landline home phones - I know several people including myself who haven't had a landline phone in a while.
Compact digital cameras - How long until they offer anything comparable to a decent digital camera.
They replace the cheap point-and-click thing, sure, but anything respectable?
Netbooks - Too small and no keyboard.
Handheld games consoles - It's hard to replace the dedicated hardware.
Maybe someday though.
Paper - How many times has this been claimed?
Thinking – If we count this category, then hasn't thinking been replaced for a while now?
Either we consider thinking as already having been replaced or cell phones won't make change things much more.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192382</id>
	<title>Re:A load of BS</title>
	<author>Haeleth</author>
	<datestamp>1258892640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Anyone with the smallest foresight can see the trend is towards paper-thin, low power electronic displays. It may be 20+ years before they cost marginally more than paper and start to replace the more mundane uses, but it will.</p></div></blockquote><p>Look back over the last few decades.  You'll see a pattern again and again: <i>everyone</i> knows that $TECHNOLOGY is going to be the next big thing and is literally just 10 or 20 years away.  Then, 10 or 20 years later, it simply hasn't happened, or is still too expensive to be useful.  Look at AI, holographic storage, electric cars<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Do you seriously think it's ever going to be as cheap to manufacture an electronic display as to stick some wood pulp in a sieve?</p><blockquote><div><p>But look at checks - 15 years ago I was writing 8+ paper checks a month. Now I probably write that many a year.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Yes, things change, it's true.  But not everything (receipts are basically the same as they were 15 years ago), and the things that do change tend not to change in the ways we predict.</p><blockquote><div><p>The article only mentioned netbooks, which would be insanely painful for programming.</p></div></blockquote><p>Not so.  Maybe if you insist on using an "IDE" that fills up your entire screen with toolbars and sidebars and crap.  With a proper programmer's editor like vim or emacs, netbooks are fine.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone with the smallest foresight can see the trend is towards paper-thin , low power electronic displays .
It may be 20 + years before they cost marginally more than paper and start to replace the more mundane uses , but it will.Look back over the last few decades .
You 'll see a pattern again and again : everyone knows that $ TECHNOLOGY is going to be the next big thing and is literally just 10 or 20 years away .
Then , 10 or 20 years later , it simply has n't happened , or is still too expensive to be useful .
Look at AI , holographic storage , electric cars ...Do you seriously think it 's ever going to be as cheap to manufacture an electronic display as to stick some wood pulp in a sieve ? But look at checks - 15 years ago I was writing 8 + paper checks a month .
Now I probably write that many a year .
Yes , things change , it 's true .
But not everything ( receipts are basically the same as they were 15 years ago ) , and the things that do change tend not to change in the ways we predict.The article only mentioned netbooks , which would be insanely painful for programming.Not so .
Maybe if you insist on using an " IDE " that fills up your entire screen with toolbars and sidebars and crap .
With a proper programmer 's editor like vim or emacs , netbooks are fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone with the smallest foresight can see the trend is towards paper-thin, low power electronic displays.
It may be 20+ years before they cost marginally more than paper and start to replace the more mundane uses, but it will.Look back over the last few decades.
You'll see a pattern again and again: everyone knows that $TECHNOLOGY is going to be the next big thing and is literally just 10 or 20 years away.
Then, 10 or 20 years later, it simply hasn't happened, or is still too expensive to be useful.
Look at AI, holographic storage, electric cars ...Do you seriously think it's ever going to be as cheap to manufacture an electronic display as to stick some wood pulp in a sieve?But look at checks - 15 years ago I was writing 8+ paper checks a month.
Now I probably write that many a year.
Yes, things change, it's true.
But not everything (receipts are basically the same as they were 15 years ago), and the things that do change tend not to change in the ways we predict.The article only mentioned netbooks, which would be insanely painful for programming.Not so.
Maybe if you insist on using an "IDE" that fills up your entire screen with toolbars and sidebars and crap.
With a proper programmer's editor like vim or emacs, netbooks are fine.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192646</id>
	<title>Re:Same Old Song, A Jack of all Trades</title>
	<author>indiechild</author>
	<datestamp>1258898100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Professional GPS/car navigation applications on smartphones don't require cell or data service. Maybe you have them mixed up with the original Google Maps application.</p><p>And in what way isn't an iPhone as good as an old iPod when it comes to music? In case you haven't noticed, Apple has positioned the iPhone OS platform as its premier music and multimedia playback system. Apple moved beyond music long ago, and they're about to enter the online magazine/ebook/news/content business.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Professional GPS/car navigation applications on smartphones do n't require cell or data service .
Maybe you have them mixed up with the original Google Maps application.And in what way is n't an iPhone as good as an old iPod when it comes to music ?
In case you have n't noticed , Apple has positioned the iPhone OS platform as its premier music and multimedia playback system .
Apple moved beyond music long ago , and they 're about to enter the online magazine/ebook/news/content business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Professional GPS/car navigation applications on smartphones don't require cell or data service.
Maybe you have them mixed up with the original Google Maps application.And in what way isn't an iPhone as good as an old iPod when it comes to music?
In case you haven't noticed, Apple has positioned the iPhone OS platform as its premier music and multimedia playback system.
Apple moved beyond music long ago, and they're about to enter the online magazine/ebook/news/content business.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190450</id>
	<title>Re:Neo-luddite</title>
	<author>jd</author>
	<datestamp>1258818120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am, and I'll accept that you are, but the vast majority of people have a really suspect intellectual capacity, a very shaky grasp on reality (I hear some people even believe politicians, accountants and/or Scientologists) and an attention-span of a 3 year old. On a good day.</p><p>When you consider that Oprah Winfrey is considered to be the height of intellectualism on US television and Coast-to-Coast AM has more credible stories than many of the popular news outlets, it's clear that the species has some serious shortcomings.</p><p>On the other hand, Neolithic people had perfectly functional and valuable neurosurgeons, had tools with better-than-millimetre precision, were capable of large-scale transatlantic sea voyages and were building some very good echo chambers.</p><p>So when you compare modern humanity (by which you realize you're including Palin supporters, rednecks, New York taxi drivers, Frank Bruno, Hulk Hogan and Terry Wogan) with Neolithic and Paleolithic people, I'm really not convinced humans are advanced as you think.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am , and I 'll accept that you are , but the vast majority of people have a really suspect intellectual capacity , a very shaky grasp on reality ( I hear some people even believe politicians , accountants and/or Scientologists ) and an attention-span of a 3 year old .
On a good day.When you consider that Oprah Winfrey is considered to be the height of intellectualism on US television and Coast-to-Coast AM has more credible stories than many of the popular news outlets , it 's clear that the species has some serious shortcomings.On the other hand , Neolithic people had perfectly functional and valuable neurosurgeons , had tools with better-than-millimetre precision , were capable of large-scale transatlantic sea voyages and were building some very good echo chambers.So when you compare modern humanity ( by which you realize you 're including Palin supporters , rednecks , New York taxi drivers , Frank Bruno , Hulk Hogan and Terry Wogan ) with Neolithic and Paleolithic people , I 'm really not convinced humans are advanced as you think .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am, and I'll accept that you are, but the vast majority of people have a really suspect intellectual capacity, a very shaky grasp on reality (I hear some people even believe politicians, accountants and/or Scientologists) and an attention-span of a 3 year old.
On a good day.When you consider that Oprah Winfrey is considered to be the height of intellectualism on US television and Coast-to-Coast AM has more credible stories than many of the popular news outlets, it's clear that the species has some serious shortcomings.On the other hand, Neolithic people had perfectly functional and valuable neurosurgeons, had tools with better-than-millimetre precision, were capable of large-scale transatlantic sea voyages and were building some very good echo chambers.So when you compare modern humanity (by which you realize you're including Palin supporters, rednecks, New York taxi drivers, Frank Bruno, Hulk Hogan and Terry Wogan) with Neolithic and Paleolithic people, I'm really not convinced humans are advanced as you think.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189900</id>
	<title>Uh ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258813440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... how about the most obvious things?  Namely \_wallets\_ and \_keys\_.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... how about the most obvious things ?
Namely \ _wallets \ _ and \ _keys \ _ .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... how about the most obvious things?
Namely \_wallets\_ and \_keys\_.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189560</id>
	<title>Same tag: onesizefitsall</title>
	<author>SharpFang</author>
	<datestamp>1258810440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>same misconceptions:<br>I want to a PSP-sized phone to have a decent screen size, and I want to take it off my pocket to check the hour. Of course it should have a full-sized QWERTY keyboard to replace my netbook (not miniaturized like G1) so that I could exercise my writer's hobby on a train, and then they will be so cheap that if I want to give someone a note about some new recipe, I scribble it on my phone and give the phone for them to take (paper replacement).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>same misconceptions : I want to a PSP-sized phone to have a decent screen size , and I want to take it off my pocket to check the hour .
Of course it should have a full-sized QWERTY keyboard to replace my netbook ( not miniaturized like G1 ) so that I could exercise my writer 's hobby on a train , and then they will be so cheap that if I want to give someone a note about some new recipe , I scribble it on my phone and give the phone for them to take ( paper replacement ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>same misconceptions:I want to a PSP-sized phone to have a decent screen size, and I want to take it off my pocket to check the hour.
Of course it should have a full-sized QWERTY keyboard to replace my netbook (not miniaturized like G1) so that I could exercise my writer's hobby on a train, and then they will be so cheap that if I want to give someone a note about some new recipe, I scribble it on my phone and give the phone for them to take (paper replacement).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192244</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>YourExperiment</author>
	<datestamp>1258889280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>MP3 players may be small and cheap, but you can't get much better than zero size (because it's built into your phone) and almost zero cost (because it uses the electronics that are already in your phone). As for the battery life, it's only a matter of time before this is improved, just as it is with camera quality.</p><p>As for netbooks, in a very short time, our cell phones will be capable of running exactly the same software as our desktops. They're already shipping with 1GHz processors, and with Android the software side of things is nearly there.</p><p>As for video, I doubt it will be 2020 before the average family vacation is filmed on a cell phone. Heck, some people already take video clips on their phone despite the quality issues, just because of the convenience. The latest breed of smart phones can already take HD video, and although the quality isn't up to camcorder standard, it's getting there. I'd be surprised (and quite annoyed!) if smart phones weren't up to low-end camcorder quality in a year or two.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>MP3 players may be small and cheap , but you ca n't get much better than zero size ( because it 's built into your phone ) and almost zero cost ( because it uses the electronics that are already in your phone ) .
As for the battery life , it 's only a matter of time before this is improved , just as it is with camera quality.As for netbooks , in a very short time , our cell phones will be capable of running exactly the same software as our desktops .
They 're already shipping with 1GHz processors , and with Android the software side of things is nearly there.As for video , I doubt it will be 2020 before the average family vacation is filmed on a cell phone .
Heck , some people already take video clips on their phone despite the quality issues , just because of the convenience .
The latest breed of smart phones can already take HD video , and although the quality is n't up to camcorder standard , it 's getting there .
I 'd be surprised ( and quite annoyed !
) if smart phones were n't up to low-end camcorder quality in a year or two .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MP3 players may be small and cheap, but you can't get much better than zero size (because it's built into your phone) and almost zero cost (because it uses the electronics that are already in your phone).
As for the battery life, it's only a matter of time before this is improved, just as it is with camera quality.As for netbooks, in a very short time, our cell phones will be capable of running exactly the same software as our desktops.
They're already shipping with 1GHz processors, and with Android the software side of things is nearly there.As for video, I doubt it will be 2020 before the average family vacation is filmed on a cell phone.
Heck, some people already take video clips on their phone despite the quality issues, just because of the convenience.
The latest breed of smart phones can already take HD video, and although the quality isn't up to camcorder standard, it's getting there.
I'd be surprised (and quite annoyed!
) if smart phones weren't up to low-end camcorder quality in a year or two.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30199254</id>
	<title>Re:The previous commentors are idiots</title>
	<author>MobyTurbo</author>
	<datestamp>1258909800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So, the inferiority of the phone's functions are nearly always MASSIVELY OUTWEIGHED by the fact that you only carry ONE device rather than a whole batman belt worth of them. Size and weight and convenience means that for 99\% of users, it's easier and cheaper just to buy a smartphone and use it exclusively for all of the above functions.</p></div><p>
It may save you from wearing a batman-belt, but it's not cheaper to get a smartphone. Most require a data plan which over 2 years' contractual time is more expensive than most general purpose laptops, much less than all of those devices put together. Even if you get an unlocked phone, and are in a sane location where the GSM carriers haven't screwed up their 3g networks, it's still more than an mp3 player, point and shoot camera, internet tablet, and watch combined. The only reason why I have one is because I like having "always on" internet and getting the same thing for a computer is nearly as expensive anyway.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , the inferiority of the phone 's functions are nearly always MASSIVELY OUTWEIGHED by the fact that you only carry ONE device rather than a whole batman belt worth of them .
Size and weight and convenience means that for 99 \ % of users , it 's easier and cheaper just to buy a smartphone and use it exclusively for all of the above functions .
It may save you from wearing a batman-belt , but it 's not cheaper to get a smartphone .
Most require a data plan which over 2 years ' contractual time is more expensive than most general purpose laptops , much less than all of those devices put together .
Even if you get an unlocked phone , and are in a sane location where the GSM carriers have n't screwed up their 3g networks , it 's still more than an mp3 player , point and shoot camera , internet tablet , and watch combined .
The only reason why I have one is because I like having " always on " internet and getting the same thing for a computer is nearly as expensive anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, the inferiority of the phone's functions are nearly always MASSIVELY OUTWEIGHED by the fact that you only carry ONE device rather than a whole batman belt worth of them.
Size and weight and convenience means that for 99\% of users, it's easier and cheaper just to buy a smartphone and use it exclusively for all of the above functions.
It may save you from wearing a batman-belt, but it's not cheaper to get a smartphone.
Most require a data plan which over 2 years' contractual time is more expensive than most general purpose laptops, much less than all of those devices put together.
Even if you get an unlocked phone, and are in a sane location where the GSM carriers haven't screwed up their 3g networks, it's still more than an mp3 player, point and shoot camera, internet tablet, and watch combined.
The only reason why I have one is because I like having "always on" internet and getting the same thing for a computer is nearly as expensive anyway.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189360</id>
	<title>Five more things mobile p... make obs...e</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258809180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>1. Being able to hear the other person clearly.<br>
2. Ability to have a safe drive.<br>
3. Going ten minutes in public without hearing some inane tune over and over.<br>
4. Ability to recognize crazy people as those talking loudly when nobody else is nearby.<br>
5. Ability for state agents to commit crimes without bystanders having photograph evidence.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Being able to hear the other person clearly .
2. Ability to have a safe drive .
3. Going ten minutes in public without hearing some inane tune over and over .
4. Ability to recognize crazy people as those talking loudly when nobody else is nearby .
5. Ability for state agents to commit crimes without bystanders having photograph evidence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Being able to hear the other person clearly.
2. Ability to have a safe drive.
3. Going ten minutes in public without hearing some inane tune over and over.
4. Ability to recognize crazy people as those talking loudly when nobody else is nearby.
5. Ability for state agents to commit crimes without bystanders having photograph evidence.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189676</id>
	<title>GPS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258811580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Add GPS to that list.  My Droid gives turn-by-turn directions while linked to Google Maps, meaning Garmin will no longer be receiving $80/year for map updates.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Add GPS to that list .
My Droid gives turn-by-turn directions while linked to Google Maps , meaning Garmin will no longer be receiving $ 80/year for map updates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Add GPS to that list.
My Droid gives turn-by-turn directions while linked to Google Maps, meaning Garmin will no longer be receiving $80/year for map updates.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189994</id>
	<title>Re:A load of BS</title>
	<author>hitmark</author>
	<datestamp>1258814220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>nokia and sonyericsson have both released phones that have extra buttons above the screen to act as action buttons for games when the phone is held sideways.</p><p>not sure how popular they are as gaming platforms tho...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>nokia and sonyericsson have both released phones that have extra buttons above the screen to act as action buttons for games when the phone is held sideways.not sure how popular they are as gaming platforms tho.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nokia and sonyericsson have both released phones that have extra buttons above the screen to act as action buttons for games when the phone is held sideways.not sure how popular they are as gaming platforms tho...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189910</id>
	<title>Re:A load of BS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258813560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As the owner of a Droid, my favorite computer, I can tell you that one of the advantages paper has had over my Ubuntu Dell is that my Dell doesn't fit in my pocket.</p><p>It doesn't have the same advantage over my Droid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As the owner of a Droid , my favorite computer , I can tell you that one of the advantages paper has had over my Ubuntu Dell is that my Dell does n't fit in my pocket.It does n't have the same advantage over my Droid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As the owner of a Droid, my favorite computer, I can tell you that one of the advantages paper has had over my Ubuntu Dell is that my Dell doesn't fit in my pocket.It doesn't have the same advantage over my Droid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190556</id>
	<title>Re:Many features that I don't even want.</title>
	<author>Convector</author>
	<datestamp>1258819260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My place of employment used to forbid cameras on the premises.  They've relaxed that for cell phones because they recognize that it's virtually impossible to get a cell phone without a camera, and they're not about to try banning cell phones.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My place of employment used to forbid cameras on the premises .
They 've relaxed that for cell phones because they recognize that it 's virtually impossible to get a cell phone without a camera , and they 're not about to try banning cell phones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My place of employment used to forbid cameras on the premises.
They've relaxed that for cell phones because they recognize that it's virtually impossible to get a cell phone without a camera, and they're not about to try banning cell phones.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190416</id>
	<title>Re:#11 --Free Thought.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258817700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sooo . . .  which cell phone company do you work for?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sooo .
. .
which cell phone company do you work for ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sooo .
. .
which cell phone company do you work for?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189406</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191818</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>Itninja</author>
	<datestamp>1258923420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There should also be a comma after 'peeves'. Ah, I feel so much better....<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;0)</htmltext>
<tokenext>There should also be a comma after 'peeves' .
Ah , I feel so much better.... ; 0 )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There should also be a comma after 'peeves'.
Ah, I feel so much better.... ;0)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190230</id>
	<title>11) answering machines</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258815900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When is the last time you've seen someone fiddle with an answering machine?  Maybe in some action movies released between 1985 and 2000.</p><p>I thought of this after noticing that only 2 of the 10 items in TFA had to do with actually talking or listening to someone one on one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When is the last time you 've seen someone fiddle with an answering machine ?
Maybe in some action movies released between 1985 and 2000.I thought of this after noticing that only 2 of the 10 items in TFA had to do with actually talking or listening to someone one on one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When is the last time you've seen someone fiddle with an answering machine?
Maybe in some action movies released between 1985 and 2000.I thought of this after noticing that only 2 of the 10 items in TFA had to do with actually talking or listening to someone one on one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190052</id>
	<title>Calculators?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258814520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Surely the calculator is the obvious item for a phone to replace.</p><p>Lets face it, a normal phone these days can do anything a normal calculator can, while the more complex stuff could probably be thrown into an iPhone ap already, and if not soon will be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Surely the calculator is the obvious item for a phone to replace.Lets face it , a normal phone these days can do anything a normal calculator can , while the more complex stuff could probably be thrown into an iPhone ap already , and if not soon will be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surely the calculator is the obvious item for a phone to replace.Lets face it, a normal phone these days can do anything a normal calculator can, while the more complex stuff could probably be thrown into an iPhone ap already, and if not soon will be.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189400</id>
	<title>Convergence.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258809420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It really is amazing how many features they keep cramming into these tiny devices.  Maybe I'm a dreamer, but I am hopeful that in the next couple of years somebody will figure out a way to make reliable phone calls with these things.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It really is amazing how many features they keep cramming into these tiny devices .
Maybe I 'm a dreamer , but I am hopeful that in the next couple of years somebody will figure out a way to make reliable phone calls with these things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It really is amazing how many features they keep cramming into these tiny devices.
Maybe I'm a dreamer, but I am hopeful that in the next couple of years somebody will figure out a way to make reliable phone calls with these things.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30196386</id>
	<title>Retro geek charm in watches.</title>
	<author>Dana W</author>
	<datestamp>1258885080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext> I have an iPhone that tells me the time, but I wear a blue-tooth so I don't have to fish it out of my pocket and flash it around. Besides being convenient, a good watch is fun, if they are falling out of favor its because the average Walmart plastic watch is just junk.

 I love watches, but the choices today seem to be plastic crap, or $3000 mechanical marvels. So I favor mechanical geek watches. Mostly vintage Accutron watches, "The ones that ran on a 360hz electric tuning fork. Also, the occasional digital from when digital meant expensive.  The TI digitals are retro antiques, anf the Accutrons were the most accurate watches in the world pre quartz. More reliable than a high end mechanical chronograph.

The Accutron 214. This movement had a history with the space program, and there were 214 based timing mechanisms in the Apollo capsule, and some early satellites.

<a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2622/3909134560\_9fb9ea18e6\_b.jpg" title="flickr.com" rel="nofollow">http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2622/3909134560\_9fb9ea18e6\_b.jpg</a> [flickr.com]

And the same type of "tuning fork" watch updated for 1973, still working perfectly,

<a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3661/3608838339\_bf1c040e17\_b.jpg" title="flickr.com" rel="nofollow">http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3661/3608838339\_bf1c040e17\_b.jpg</a> [flickr.com]

 Lastly, some vintage LEDs, which never seem to go 100\% out of style.

<a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2471/3864049434\_b03901cd02\_b.jpg" title="flickr.com" rel="nofollow">http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2471/3864049434\_b03901cd02\_b.jpg</a> [flickr.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an iPhone that tells me the time , but I wear a blue-tooth so I do n't have to fish it out of my pocket and flash it around .
Besides being convenient , a good watch is fun , if they are falling out of favor its because the average Walmart plastic watch is just junk .
I love watches , but the choices today seem to be plastic crap , or $ 3000 mechanical marvels .
So I favor mechanical geek watches .
Mostly vintage Accutron watches , " The ones that ran on a 360hz electric tuning fork .
Also , the occasional digital from when digital meant expensive .
The TI digitals are retro antiques , anf the Accutrons were the most accurate watches in the world pre quartz .
More reliable than a high end mechanical chronograph .
The Accutron 214 .
This movement had a history with the space program , and there were 214 based timing mechanisms in the Apollo capsule , and some early satellites .
http : //farm3.static.flickr.com/2622/3909134560 \ _9fb9ea18e6 \ _b.jpg [ flickr.com ] And the same type of " tuning fork " watch updated for 1973 , still working perfectly , http : //farm4.static.flickr.com/3661/3608838339 \ _bf1c040e17 \ _b.jpg [ flickr.com ] Lastly , some vintage LEDs , which never seem to go 100 \ % out of style .
http : //farm3.static.flickr.com/2471/3864049434 \ _b03901cd02 \ _b.jpg [ flickr.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I have an iPhone that tells me the time, but I wear a blue-tooth so I don't have to fish it out of my pocket and flash it around.
Besides being convenient, a good watch is fun, if they are falling out of favor its because the average Walmart plastic watch is just junk.
I love watches, but the choices today seem to be plastic crap, or $3000 mechanical marvels.
So I favor mechanical geek watches.
Mostly vintage Accutron watches, "The ones that ran on a 360hz electric tuning fork.
Also, the occasional digital from when digital meant expensive.
The TI digitals are retro antiques, anf the Accutrons were the most accurate watches in the world pre quartz.
More reliable than a high end mechanical chronograph.
The Accutron 214.
This movement had a history with the space program, and there were 214 based timing mechanisms in the Apollo capsule, and some early satellites.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2622/3909134560\_9fb9ea18e6\_b.jpg [flickr.com]

And the same type of "tuning fork" watch updated for 1973, still working perfectly,

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3661/3608838339\_bf1c040e17\_b.jpg [flickr.com]

 Lastly, some vintage LEDs, which never seem to go 100\% out of style.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2471/3864049434\_b03901cd02\_b.jpg [flickr.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189840</id>
	<title>Re:A load of BS</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1258813020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, the netbook one is a load of rubbish. Netbooks fill a nice gap between small phones and laptops. A phone is too small to do a lot of computer work comfortably, but a netbook is as small as a computer can be made, without having these problems.</p><p>Then there's the fact that phones are horribly locked down, as well as incompatible with PCs. Hopefully at some point in the future we'll be able to buy a phone that basically is a PC, running the same OS and software. But until that happens, I'm glad that netbooks are around.</p><p>TFA claims that phones will "catch up" - well phones aren't going to catch up in size, unless they turn into a netbook (in which case, it's stupid to say it's a phone, and not a netbook). And they show no signs of becoming more open, either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , the netbook one is a load of rubbish .
Netbooks fill a nice gap between small phones and laptops .
A phone is too small to do a lot of computer work comfortably , but a netbook is as small as a computer can be made , without having these problems.Then there 's the fact that phones are horribly locked down , as well as incompatible with PCs .
Hopefully at some point in the future we 'll be able to buy a phone that basically is a PC , running the same OS and software .
But until that happens , I 'm glad that netbooks are around.TFA claims that phones will " catch up " - well phones are n't going to catch up in size , unless they turn into a netbook ( in which case , it 's stupid to say it 's a phone , and not a netbook ) .
And they show no signs of becoming more open , either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, the netbook one is a load of rubbish.
Netbooks fill a nice gap between small phones and laptops.
A phone is too small to do a lot of computer work comfortably, but a netbook is as small as a computer can be made, without having these problems.Then there's the fact that phones are horribly locked down, as well as incompatible with PCs.
Hopefully at some point in the future we'll be able to buy a phone that basically is a PC, running the same OS and software.
But until that happens, I'm glad that netbooks are around.TFA claims that phones will "catch up" - well phones aren't going to catch up in size, unless they turn into a netbook (in which case, it's stupid to say it's a phone, and not a netbook).
And they show no signs of becoming more open, either.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190720</id>
	<title>Credit to Douglas Adams</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258821600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Humans are a curious species who still think that digital watches are a good idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Humans are a curious species who still think that digital watches are a good idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Humans are a curious species who still think that digital watches are a good idea.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190666</id>
	<title>I disagree...</title>
	<author>XPeter</author>
	<datestamp>1258820820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wear a watch.
On occasion I use a public phone (When my battery dies).
I have a real alarm clock.
I carry around my IPod
I always use the home phone when Im not out (excluding txting)
Digital cameras I can agree with to an extent - Pictures with friends, ect.  But not for real photography.
I love my Acer Aspire 1410, it does many things my Blackberry Tour doesn't.
My DS is my life.
Paper and thinking...................

The author needs to be fired.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wear a watch .
On occasion I use a public phone ( When my battery dies ) .
I have a real alarm clock .
I carry around my IPod I always use the home phone when Im not out ( excluding txting ) Digital cameras I can agree with to an extent - Pictures with friends , ect .
But not for real photography .
I love my Acer Aspire 1410 , it does many things my Blackberry Tour does n't .
My DS is my life .
Paper and thinking.................. . The author needs to be fired .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wear a watch.
On occasion I use a public phone (When my battery dies).
I have a real alarm clock.
I carry around my IPod
I always use the home phone when Im not out (excluding txting)
Digital cameras I can agree with to an extent - Pictures with friends, ect.
But not for real photography.
I love my Acer Aspire 1410, it does many things my Blackberry Tour doesn't.
My DS is my life.
Paper and thinking...................

The author needs to be fired.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191350</id>
	<title>Re:No phone booths?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258830180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>time travel is probably much scarier holding onto a cell phone for dear life as well</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>time travel is probably much scarier holding onto a cell phone for dear life as well</tokentext>
<sentencetext>time travel is probably much scarier holding onto a cell phone for dear life as well</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192604</id>
	<title>It would help ...</title>
	<author>Toon Moene</author>
	<datestamp>1258897380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... if the mobile phone were as inconspicuous as a wrist watch.</p><p>Unfortunately, it's (still ?) a loudmouth that's too large to go unnoticed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... if the mobile phone were as inconspicuous as a wrist watch.Unfortunately , it 's ( still ?
) a loudmouth that 's too large to go unnoticed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... if the mobile phone were as inconspicuous as a wrist watch.Unfortunately, it's (still ?
) a loudmouth that's too large to go unnoticed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190436</id>
	<title>Re:Not 'til I'm dead, most likely</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1258817940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Until cell phones that can survive a 10 story fall onto concrete come around, they can't fully replace a simple notepad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Until cell phones that can survive a 10 story fall onto concrete come around , they ca n't fully replace a simple notepad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until cell phones that can survive a 10 story fall onto concrete come around, they can't fully replace a simple notepad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190890</id>
	<title>Re:Same Old Song, A Jack of all Trades</title>
	<author>dancingmad</author>
	<datestamp>1258823880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's my point though (I might be old too but...) anything that tries to do everything isn't going to do anything that well.</p><p>For example, I am a gamer.  Yeah, if I wanted to, I could play Peggle or whatever on the iPhone.    But I am not going to get the last Mario RPG game on the iPhone and I don't want to play the casual games on the iPhone.  Making the iPhone a good game machine would compromise it as a phone or a camera, or whatever.  One extra function is going to compromise the others in some way and to some degree (even if it's just space on the device, but probably even more).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's my point though ( I might be old too but... ) anything that tries to do everything is n't going to do anything that well.For example , I am a gamer .
Yeah , if I wanted to , I could play Peggle or whatever on the iPhone .
But I am not going to get the last Mario RPG game on the iPhone and I do n't want to play the casual games on the iPhone .
Making the iPhone a good game machine would compromise it as a phone or a camera , or whatever .
One extra function is going to compromise the others in some way and to some degree ( even if it 's just space on the device , but probably even more ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's my point though (I might be old too but...) anything that tries to do everything isn't going to do anything that well.For example, I am a gamer.
Yeah, if I wanted to, I could play Peggle or whatever on the iPhone.
But I am not going to get the last Mario RPG game on the iPhone and I don't want to play the casual games on the iPhone.
Making the iPhone a good game machine would compromise it as a phone or a camera, or whatever.
One extra function is going to compromise the others in some way and to some degree (even if it's just space on the device, but probably even more).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191906</id>
	<title>Re:I found an 11th thing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258882080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Circular logic" is a much better phrase for the original meaning of "begging the question", so your fight is hopeless.<br>When you think of the phrase "begs the question" without attaching prior meaning, you immediately come to the conclusion of "the previous phrase had a hole in it that begged for attention to be called upon it"; fighting to keep the meaning of "begging the question" is is as likely as the RIAA returning to the days of Filler music and cocaine dunes.<br>Have fun fighting an already lost battle!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Circular logic " is a much better phrase for the original meaning of " begging the question " , so your fight is hopeless.When you think of the phrase " begs the question " without attaching prior meaning , you immediately come to the conclusion of " the previous phrase had a hole in it that begged for attention to be called upon it " ; fighting to keep the meaning of " begging the question " is is as likely as the RIAA returning to the days of Filler music and cocaine dunes.Have fun fighting an already lost battle !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Circular logic" is a much better phrase for the original meaning of "begging the question", so your fight is hopeless.When you think of the phrase "begs the question" without attaching prior meaning, you immediately come to the conclusion of "the previous phrase had a hole in it that begged for attention to be called upon it"; fighting to keep the meaning of "begging the question" is is as likely as the RIAA returning to the days of Filler music and cocaine dunes.Have fun fighting an already lost battle!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191294</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>ignavus</author>
	<datestamp>1258829340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The meaning of the phrase has changed.</p><p>The phrase used to refer to "a logical fallacy in which the proposition to be proved is assumed implicitly or explicitly in the premise."[1]</p><p>Now it means, "I'm trying to sound like I'm well educated, but I'm not."</p><p>[1] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging\_the\_question" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging\_the\_question</a> [wikipedia.org] </p></div><p>Fortunately, the educated still refer to it as <em>petitio principii</em>, thus distinguishing themselves from those who use the mutable and imprecise vernacular.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The meaning of the phrase has changed.The phrase used to refer to " a logical fallacy in which the proposition to be proved is assumed implicitly or explicitly in the premise .
" [ 1 ] Now it means , " I 'm trying to sound like I 'm well educated , but I 'm not .
" [ 1 ] http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging \ _the \ _question [ wikipedia.org ] Fortunately , the educated still refer to it as petitio principii , thus distinguishing themselves from those who use the mutable and imprecise vernacular .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The meaning of the phrase has changed.The phrase used to refer to "a logical fallacy in which the proposition to be proved is assumed implicitly or explicitly in the premise.
"[1]Now it means, "I'm trying to sound like I'm well educated, but I'm not.
"[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging\_the\_question [wikipedia.org] Fortunately, the educated still refer to it as petitio principii, thus distinguishing themselves from those who use the mutable and imprecise vernacular.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30194928</id>
	<title>Let's see...</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1258916700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>Phone booths</b> - Still in service in certain environments like on factory or freight terminal premises for intra-premise communication. Unlikely to go away.<br>
<br>
<b>Wristwatches</b> - Extremely unlikely to go away. "Most people" still wear one and most likely will until someone comes up with a mobile phone small enough to always have a glance away without having to hold it.<br>
<br>
<b>Bedside alarm clocks</b> - Possible to replace but they will still stick around because slamming your hand on your phone to activate the snooze function only works a couple times before your break the thing.<br>
<br>
<b>MP3 players</b> - The iPond Shuffle suggests that mobile phones will have to get much smaller if they want to completely take over that segment. In fact, the Compact Flash based player I had aeons ago was much smaller and a fair deal cheaper than even a small MP3-capable mobile today.<br>
<br>
<b>Landline home phones</b> - Because I want my 911 to go down if there's a thunderstorm. Or heavy snowfall. Or just about anything else that might interfere with the operation of the tower. (Before you comment that the telephone mast in front of your house could be knocked down as well, note that in more civilized areas such cables usually run underground.) Sounds just like a dream.<br>
<br>
<b>Compact digital cameras</b> - Why use a 50 USD 5 Mpixel camera if I can use one with the same resolution for five times the price? Why use a 10 MPixel camera for 120 USD when I can pay twice that for half the resolution? Yeah, high-end mobile phones will have to become much cheaper if they want to displace compact digital cameras. Maybe for teenagers who want to take pictures of their latest bingeand are okay with blurry 1 MPixel shots but not for anyone who wants to take holiday pictures, do amaetur photography or create just about anything of any aesthetic value.<br>
<br>
<b>Netbooks</b> - If they come up with a mobile phone with a 10" screen, maybe. Then again, no; nobody would buy that monster. As weird as it may sound, not everyone is content to use a platform with a miniscule screen at an equally miniscule resolution that is unable to run any of the applications they normally use.<br>
<br>
<b>Handheld game consoles</b> - The NGage showed how well that works. The iPhone has more promise but still can't offer what regular portable consoles have to offer. Like a d-pad. Any game that doesn't rely on tilting for movement control (or has no need for movement control at all) feels extremely awakward on the iPhone and adding decent gaming controls is going to destroy its low profile. The "advantage" TFA cites (being able to connect to mobile networks) is no differentiating advantage either: The DSi does it, the PSP Go does it and the Pandora will do it.<br>
<br>
<b>Paper</b> - Erm, no. Maybe they will take a bite out of print media (although I don't expect them to impact the book market nearly as much as eBook readers do) but they're hardly going to replace paper. Whether for quick notes or sketches, paper is still vastly superior to mobile phones and print books can be used in places where you wouldn't want to have your phone running all the time (or at all) like on a camping trip (you need to conserve battery charge) or in the bathtub (mobiles tend to take a lot more damage in hot, damp areas than paper does).<br>
<br>
<b>Thinking</b> - Everything they attribute to mobile phones has been provided by ther technologies before; smartphones merely offer many of those things at once.<br>
<br>
<br>
Most of what they said is nonsense and they forgot the most important one:<br>
<br>
<b>Money</b> - Between the price of that shiny new high-end smartphone and the mandatory data plan, you notice that with a 40 USD wristwatch, a 20 USD alarm clock, a 50 USD MP3 player, a 30 USD landline phone, a 50 USD camera, a 150 USD netbook, a 150 USD handheld console and 200 USD worth of books, you still could've used phone booths for the next two years and paid less.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Phone booths - Still in service in certain environments like on factory or freight terminal premises for intra-premise communication .
Unlikely to go away .
Wristwatches - Extremely unlikely to go away .
" Most people " still wear one and most likely will until someone comes up with a mobile phone small enough to always have a glance away without having to hold it .
Bedside alarm clocks - Possible to replace but they will still stick around because slamming your hand on your phone to activate the snooze function only works a couple times before your break the thing .
MP3 players - The iPond Shuffle suggests that mobile phones will have to get much smaller if they want to completely take over that segment .
In fact , the Compact Flash based player I had aeons ago was much smaller and a fair deal cheaper than even a small MP3-capable mobile today .
Landline home phones - Because I want my 911 to go down if there 's a thunderstorm .
Or heavy snowfall .
Or just about anything else that might interfere with the operation of the tower .
( Before you comment that the telephone mast in front of your house could be knocked down as well , note that in more civilized areas such cables usually run underground .
) Sounds just like a dream .
Compact digital cameras - Why use a 50 USD 5 Mpixel camera if I can use one with the same resolution for five times the price ?
Why use a 10 MPixel camera for 120 USD when I can pay twice that for half the resolution ?
Yeah , high-end mobile phones will have to become much cheaper if they want to displace compact digital cameras .
Maybe for teenagers who want to take pictures of their latest bingeand are okay with blurry 1 MPixel shots but not for anyone who wants to take holiday pictures , do amaetur photography or create just about anything of any aesthetic value .
Netbooks - If they come up with a mobile phone with a 10 " screen , maybe .
Then again , no ; nobody would buy that monster .
As weird as it may sound , not everyone is content to use a platform with a miniscule screen at an equally miniscule resolution that is unable to run any of the applications they normally use .
Handheld game consoles - The NGage showed how well that works .
The iPhone has more promise but still ca n't offer what regular portable consoles have to offer .
Like a d-pad .
Any game that does n't rely on tilting for movement control ( or has no need for movement control at all ) feels extremely awakward on the iPhone and adding decent gaming controls is going to destroy its low profile .
The " advantage " TFA cites ( being able to connect to mobile networks ) is no differentiating advantage either : The DSi does it , the PSP Go does it and the Pandora will do it .
Paper - Erm , no .
Maybe they will take a bite out of print media ( although I do n't expect them to impact the book market nearly as much as eBook readers do ) but they 're hardly going to replace paper .
Whether for quick notes or sketches , paper is still vastly superior to mobile phones and print books can be used in places where you would n't want to have your phone running all the time ( or at all ) like on a camping trip ( you need to conserve battery charge ) or in the bathtub ( mobiles tend to take a lot more damage in hot , damp areas than paper does ) .
Thinking - Everything they attribute to mobile phones has been provided by ther technologies before ; smartphones merely offer many of those things at once .
Most of what they said is nonsense and they forgot the most important one : Money - Between the price of that shiny new high-end smartphone and the mandatory data plan , you notice that with a 40 USD wristwatch , a 20 USD alarm clock , a 50 USD MP3 player , a 30 USD landline phone , a 50 USD camera , a 150 USD netbook , a 150 USD handheld console and 200 USD worth of books , you still could 've used phone booths for the next two years and paid less .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Phone booths - Still in service in certain environments like on factory or freight terminal premises for intra-premise communication.
Unlikely to go away.
Wristwatches - Extremely unlikely to go away.
"Most people" still wear one and most likely will until someone comes up with a mobile phone small enough to always have a glance away without having to hold it.
Bedside alarm clocks - Possible to replace but they will still stick around because slamming your hand on your phone to activate the snooze function only works a couple times before your break the thing.
MP3 players - The iPond Shuffle suggests that mobile phones will have to get much smaller if they want to completely take over that segment.
In fact, the Compact Flash based player I had aeons ago was much smaller and a fair deal cheaper than even a small MP3-capable mobile today.
Landline home phones - Because I want my 911 to go down if there's a thunderstorm.
Or heavy snowfall.
Or just about anything else that might interfere with the operation of the tower.
(Before you comment that the telephone mast in front of your house could be knocked down as well, note that in more civilized areas such cables usually run underground.
) Sounds just like a dream.
Compact digital cameras - Why use a 50 USD 5 Mpixel camera if I can use one with the same resolution for five times the price?
Why use a 10 MPixel camera for 120 USD when I can pay twice that for half the resolution?
Yeah, high-end mobile phones will have to become much cheaper if they want to displace compact digital cameras.
Maybe for teenagers who want to take pictures of their latest bingeand are okay with blurry 1 MPixel shots but not for anyone who wants to take holiday pictures, do amaetur photography or create just about anything of any aesthetic value.
Netbooks - If they come up with a mobile phone with a 10" screen, maybe.
Then again, no; nobody would buy that monster.
As weird as it may sound, not everyone is content to use a platform with a miniscule screen at an equally miniscule resolution that is unable to run any of the applications they normally use.
Handheld game consoles - The NGage showed how well that works.
The iPhone has more promise but still can't offer what regular portable consoles have to offer.
Like a d-pad.
Any game that doesn't rely on tilting for movement control (or has no need for movement control at all) feels extremely awakward on the iPhone and adding decent gaming controls is going to destroy its low profile.
The "advantage" TFA cites (being able to connect to mobile networks) is no differentiating advantage either: The DSi does it, the PSP Go does it and the Pandora will do it.
Paper - Erm, no.
Maybe they will take a bite out of print media (although I don't expect them to impact the book market nearly as much as eBook readers do) but they're hardly going to replace paper.
Whether for quick notes or sketches, paper is still vastly superior to mobile phones and print books can be used in places where you wouldn't want to have your phone running all the time (or at all) like on a camping trip (you need to conserve battery charge) or in the bathtub (mobiles tend to take a lot more damage in hot, damp areas than paper does).
Thinking - Everything they attribute to mobile phones has been provided by ther technologies before; smartphones merely offer many of those things at once.
Most of what they said is nonsense and they forgot the most important one:

Money - Between the price of that shiny new high-end smartphone and the mandatory data plan, you notice that with a 40 USD wristwatch, a 20 USD alarm clock, a 50 USD MP3 player, a 30 USD landline phone, a 50 USD camera, a 150 USD netbook, a 150 USD handheld console and 200 USD worth of books, you still could've used phone booths for the next two years and paid less.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30195522</id>
	<title>Re:I found an 11th thing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258921680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Two people walked past 6 descriptivists beating up a perscriptivist.</p><p>"Shouldn't we do something?" asked one.</p><p>"Six is enough," replied the other.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Two people walked past 6 descriptivists beating up a perscriptivist .
" Should n't we do something ?
" asked one .
" Six is enough , " replied the other .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two people walked past 6 descriptivists beating up a perscriptivist.
"Shouldn't we do something?
" asked one.
"Six is enough," replied the other.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190172</id>
	<title>Re:A load of BS</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1258815480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Computers were supposed to get rid of paper and they didn't. Phones won't either.</i></p><p>The only time we use paper in my office is when we're dealing with other (less civilized) companies-- like registering for benefits.</p><p>I mean, some people print out things for their own reference, but it's not required or even desired by the company itself.</p><p><i>If I am going to do work during my commute it will be on a laptop or netbook, not a mobile. I suspect a lot of people feel the same way.</i></p><p>Well, until damned Sound Transit fixes the wifi on the Sounder train, using a mobile is the only way to answer my email on my way to work. Not that I wouldn't love to use a laptop, but it's no good without wifi.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Computers were supposed to get rid of paper and they did n't .
Phones wo n't either.The only time we use paper in my office is when we 're dealing with other ( less civilized ) companies-- like registering for benefits.I mean , some people print out things for their own reference , but it 's not required or even desired by the company itself.If I am going to do work during my commute it will be on a laptop or netbook , not a mobile .
I suspect a lot of people feel the same way.Well , until damned Sound Transit fixes the wifi on the Sounder train , using a mobile is the only way to answer my email on my way to work .
Not that I would n't love to use a laptop , but it 's no good without wifi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Computers were supposed to get rid of paper and they didn't.
Phones won't either.The only time we use paper in my office is when we're dealing with other (less civilized) companies-- like registering for benefits.I mean, some people print out things for their own reference, but it's not required or even desired by the company itself.If I am going to do work during my commute it will be on a laptop or netbook, not a mobile.
I suspect a lot of people feel the same way.Well, until damned Sound Transit fixes the wifi on the Sounder train, using a mobile is the only way to answer my email on my way to work.
Not that I wouldn't love to use a laptop, but it's no good without wifi.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190102</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258814880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The meaning of the phrase has changed.</p><p>The phrase used to refer to "a logical fallacy in which the proposition to be proved is assumed implicitly or explicitly in the premise."[1]</p><p>Now it means, "I'm trying to sound like I'm well educated, but I'm not."</p><p>[1] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging\_the\_question" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging\_the\_question</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The meaning of the phrase has changed.The phrase used to refer to " a logical fallacy in which the proposition to be proved is assumed implicitly or explicitly in the premise .
" [ 1 ] Now it means , " I 'm trying to sound like I 'm well educated , but I 'm not .
" [ 1 ] http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging \ _the \ _question [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The meaning of the phrase has changed.The phrase used to refer to "a logical fallacy in which the proposition to be proved is assumed implicitly or explicitly in the premise.
"[1]Now it means, "I'm trying to sound like I'm well educated, but I'm not.
"[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging\_the\_question [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191460</id>
	<title>Battery runs out huh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258831560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The author poignantly concludes that while it's great to have so much power at our fingertips it does mean that some of us will rely on mobile phones for even basic mental tasks, which is great until the battery runs out.</p></div><p>I've noticed a similar problem with people, they work great until they run out of food, water, or even air. Even worse, if you don't supply them fast enough they permanently brick themelves. Total bummer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The author poignantly concludes that while it 's great to have so much power at our fingertips it does mean that some of us will rely on mobile phones for even basic mental tasks , which is great until the battery runs out.I 've noticed a similar problem with people , they work great until they run out of food , water , or even air .
Even worse , if you do n't supply them fast enough they permanently brick themelves .
Total bummer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The author poignantly concludes that while it's great to have so much power at our fingertips it does mean that some of us will rely on mobile phones for even basic mental tasks, which is great until the battery runs out.I've noticed a similar problem with people, they work great until they run out of food, water, or even air.
Even worse, if you don't supply them fast enough they permanently brick themelves.
Total bummer.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192042</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1258885800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I think there are basicly two types of phones (some are user configurable)  Ones that get time from the network only, and ones that keep there own clock.The nice thing about the network phones is the time is always accurate to the second and resets based on time zone when you power it up after a flight or when you cross a border.  Every phone like this I have owned eventually looses track when out of range.The other type seem to have an internal clock and have to be changed after flights and such.My Kindle</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think there are basicly two types of phones ( some are user configurable ) Ones that get time from the network only , and ones that keep there own clock.The nice thing about the network phones is the time is always accurate to the second and resets based on time zone when you power it up after a flight or when you cross a border .
Every phone like this I have owned eventually looses track when out of range.The other type seem to have an internal clock and have to be changed after flights and such.My Kindle</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think there are basicly two types of phones (some are user configurable)  Ones that get time from the network only, and ones that keep there own clock.The nice thing about the network phones is the time is always accurate to the second and resets based on time zone when you power it up after a flight or when you cross a border.
Every phone like this I have owned eventually looses track when out of range.The other type seem to have an internal clock and have to be changed after flights and such.My Kindle
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190272</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>turbidostato</author>
	<datestamp>1258816260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Maybe it's the Aspergers that makes me obsess"</p><p>Sorry not.  I did make you anything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Maybe it 's the Aspergers that makes me obsess " Sorry not .
I did make you anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Maybe it's the Aspergers that makes me obsess"Sorry not.
I did make you anything.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192120</id>
	<title>Re:Not 'til I'm dead, most likely</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258887300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>(Okay, two boxes...it's a SunRizr that does the lights)</p></div></blockquote><p><i>So</i> expensive for what it is. You can buy an X10 firecracker set for $40 or $20 off eBay (yes, from the people whose popup ads appear to encourage voyeurism), and a few broad-spectrum / "daylight" bulbs ($5 to $20 a pop). If you don't have any, add in a lamp or two for maybe $10 a pop. The rest is just code, and it doesn't take much to whip up a C# program, using X10 libraries off the Internet, to turn the lights on and off on a schedule.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( Okay , two boxes...it 's a SunRizr that does the lights ) So expensive for what it is .
You can buy an X10 firecracker set for $ 40 or $ 20 off eBay ( yes , from the people whose popup ads appear to encourage voyeurism ) , and a few broad-spectrum / " daylight " bulbs ( $ 5 to $ 20 a pop ) .
If you do n't have any , add in a lamp or two for maybe $ 10 a pop .
The rest is just code , and it does n't take much to whip up a C # program , using X10 libraries off the Internet , to turn the lights on and off on a schedule .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(Okay, two boxes...it's a SunRizr that does the lights)So expensive for what it is.
You can buy an X10 firecracker set for $40 or $20 off eBay (yes, from the people whose popup ads appear to encourage voyeurism), and a few broad-spectrum / "daylight" bulbs ($5 to $20 a pop).
If you don't have any, add in a lamp or two for maybe $10 a pop.
The rest is just code, and it doesn't take much to whip up a C# program, using X10 libraries off the Internet, to turn the lights on and off on a schedule.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30193412</id>
	<title>Re:A load of BS</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1258905840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They made the iPhone because they saw the death of the profit margins in dedicated players. In ten years, I'm quite sure that $30 flash based mp3 players will be plenty available, and they will have 50 hour batteries (maybe, they might exchange battery improvements for size) and have more than 50 gigabytes of storage (which is an enormous amount of space for audio, and quite a bit of space for decent video).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They made the iPhone because they saw the death of the profit margins in dedicated players .
In ten years , I 'm quite sure that $ 30 flash based mp3 players will be plenty available , and they will have 50 hour batteries ( maybe , they might exchange battery improvements for size ) and have more than 50 gigabytes of storage ( which is an enormous amount of space for audio , and quite a bit of space for decent video ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They made the iPhone because they saw the death of the profit margins in dedicated players.
In ten years, I'm quite sure that $30 flash based mp3 players will be plenty available, and they will have 50 hour batteries (maybe, they might exchange battery improvements for size) and have more than 50 gigabytes of storage (which is an enormous amount of space for audio, and quite a bit of space for decent video).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30196252</id>
	<title>90\% wrong</title>
	<author>Baloo Uriza</author>
	<datestamp>1258883820000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>How can someone be so wrong and still get published?  Here's the same 10 items, and why only the phone will be obsolete:
<ul>
<li> <b>Phone booths</b> are making a comeback, sans the phone, as a place go in airports, train stations and crowded downtown streets to hold a conversation in peace and without bothering others.  If you take Amtrak, expect staff to direct you to one if they spot you on the phone.</li><li> <b>Wristwatches</b>: Analog ones can be used as a survival compass, and generally last longer per battery than most shitty cellphone batter life.  Convenient size, and you don't have to dig for a wristwatch.</li><li> <b>Bedside alarm clocks</b>: Ha!  Are you kidding?  Cell phones have a shitty enough battery life that even if you do charge it regularly, good luck using it as an alarm clock longer than a short business trip because you decided to stay someplace that doesn't offer wake up calls.</li><li> <b>MP3 Players</b> will never get replaced because MP3 players typically have a proper headphone jack, most phones dont, and none of the phones cultureless chavs use (the primary market for MP3 playing phones) have a headphone plug.  Next retard who plays the latest talentless pop hit behind me on the train is getting ther phone smashed.</li><li> <b>Landline home phone</b> is doomed, but that's because the phone itself is doomed.  "Let's take the interruptiveness of barging into the room and combine it with the obnoxiousness and sound quality of XBox Live!  That won't cause problems, especially when people try to use it while driving!"  Fuuuck, people created instant messaging and email for a reason:  Use it!  Alexander Bell should have had his head smashed in with a hammer in front of his friends, family and children for coming up with an idea so prolifically retarded.</li><li> <b>Compact digital cameras</b> aren't doomed:  When was the last time you saw a cell phone that took decent pictures?  Or had a lens cap? Scratch-o-rama on the phone lens!</li><li> <b>Netbooks</b> can't be obsoleted by the phone...when was the last time you saw a phone with a full size keyboard?  Never, you say?  Good luck typing that term paper on the train using your phone.</li><li> <b>Handheld game consoles</b> can't go obsolete because someone who never should have had kids needs something that doesn't have a monthly fee to hand their kids to make 'em shut the hell up.  If you honestly think that Americans are suddenly going to start thinking about having kids before just doing it without working out how much of an expensive, pointless, and completely unrewarding pain in the ass that is, you're sorely mistaken.</li><li> <b>Paper</b> can't be obsoleted until they can come up with a $9 device that's waterproof, works in the rain, has infinite battery life and the potential to live forever.</li>
<li> <b>Thinking</b> won't be obsolete as long as people don't take losers like Andrew Lim, who clearly doesn't know what he's talking about, seriously.</li></ul></htmltext>
<tokenext>How can someone be so wrong and still get published ?
Here 's the same 10 items , and why only the phone will be obsolete : Phone booths are making a comeback , sans the phone , as a place go in airports , train stations and crowded downtown streets to hold a conversation in peace and without bothering others .
If you take Amtrak , expect staff to direct you to one if they spot you on the phone .
Wristwatches : Analog ones can be used as a survival compass , and generally last longer per battery than most shitty cellphone batter life .
Convenient size , and you do n't have to dig for a wristwatch .
Bedside alarm clocks : Ha !
Are you kidding ?
Cell phones have a shitty enough battery life that even if you do charge it regularly , good luck using it as an alarm clock longer than a short business trip because you decided to stay someplace that does n't offer wake up calls .
MP3 Players will never get replaced because MP3 players typically have a proper headphone jack , most phones dont , and none of the phones cultureless chavs use ( the primary market for MP3 playing phones ) have a headphone plug .
Next retard who plays the latest talentless pop hit behind me on the train is getting ther phone smashed .
Landline home phone is doomed , but that 's because the phone itself is doomed .
" Let 's take the interruptiveness of barging into the room and combine it with the obnoxiousness and sound quality of XBox Live !
That wo n't cause problems , especially when people try to use it while driving !
" Fuuuck , people created instant messaging and email for a reason : Use it !
Alexander Bell should have had his head smashed in with a hammer in front of his friends , family and children for coming up with an idea so prolifically retarded .
Compact digital cameras are n't doomed : When was the last time you saw a cell phone that took decent pictures ?
Or had a lens cap ?
Scratch-o-rama on the phone lens !
Netbooks ca n't be obsoleted by the phone...when was the last time you saw a phone with a full size keyboard ?
Never , you say ?
Good luck typing that term paper on the train using your phone .
Handheld game consoles ca n't go obsolete because someone who never should have had kids needs something that does n't have a monthly fee to hand their kids to make 'em shut the hell up .
If you honestly think that Americans are suddenly going to start thinking about having kids before just doing it without working out how much of an expensive , pointless , and completely unrewarding pain in the ass that is , you 're sorely mistaken .
Paper ca n't be obsoleted until they can come up with a $ 9 device that 's waterproof , works in the rain , has infinite battery life and the potential to live forever .
Thinking wo n't be obsolete as long as people do n't take losers like Andrew Lim , who clearly does n't know what he 's talking about , seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How can someone be so wrong and still get published?
Here's the same 10 items, and why only the phone will be obsolete:

 Phone booths are making a comeback, sans the phone, as a place go in airports, train stations and crowded downtown streets to hold a conversation in peace and without bothering others.
If you take Amtrak, expect staff to direct you to one if they spot you on the phone.
Wristwatches: Analog ones can be used as a survival compass, and generally last longer per battery than most shitty cellphone batter life.
Convenient size, and you don't have to dig for a wristwatch.
Bedside alarm clocks: Ha!
Are you kidding?
Cell phones have a shitty enough battery life that even if you do charge it regularly, good luck using it as an alarm clock longer than a short business trip because you decided to stay someplace that doesn't offer wake up calls.
MP3 Players will never get replaced because MP3 players typically have a proper headphone jack, most phones dont, and none of the phones cultureless chavs use (the primary market for MP3 playing phones) have a headphone plug.
Next retard who plays the latest talentless pop hit behind me on the train is getting ther phone smashed.
Landline home phone is doomed, but that's because the phone itself is doomed.
"Let's take the interruptiveness of barging into the room and combine it with the obnoxiousness and sound quality of XBox Live!
That won't cause problems, especially when people try to use it while driving!
"  Fuuuck, people created instant messaging and email for a reason:  Use it!
Alexander Bell should have had his head smashed in with a hammer in front of his friends, family and children for coming up with an idea so prolifically retarded.
Compact digital cameras aren't doomed:  When was the last time you saw a cell phone that took decent pictures?
Or had a lens cap?
Scratch-o-rama on the phone lens!
Netbooks can't be obsoleted by the phone...when was the last time you saw a phone with a full size keyboard?
Never, you say?
Good luck typing that term paper on the train using your phone.
Handheld game consoles can't go obsolete because someone who never should have had kids needs something that doesn't have a monthly fee to hand their kids to make 'em shut the hell up.
If you honestly think that Americans are suddenly going to start thinking about having kids before just doing it without working out how much of an expensive, pointless, and completely unrewarding pain in the ass that is, you're sorely mistaken.
Paper can't be obsoleted until they can come up with a $9 device that's waterproof, works in the rain, has infinite battery life and the potential to live forever.
Thinking won't be obsolete as long as people don't take losers like Andrew Lim, who clearly doesn't know what he's talking about, seriously.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190202</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>jd</author>
	<datestamp>1258815720000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Maybe it's the Asperger's in me, but after getting years of verbal grief for being different, I have no problem with neurotypicals begging. Actually, I don't think that is the Asperger's. I think I might just have become more cynical and more anti-social in my old age. (And gerroff the lawn!)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe it 's the Asperger 's in me , but after getting years of verbal grief for being different , I have no problem with neurotypicals begging .
Actually , I do n't think that is the Asperger 's .
I think I might just have become more cynical and more anti-social in my old age .
( And gerroff the lawn !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe it's the Asperger's in me, but after getting years of verbal grief for being different, I have no problem with neurotypicals begging.
Actually, I don't think that is the Asperger's.
I think I might just have become more cynical and more anti-social in my old age.
(And gerroff the lawn!
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190638</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258820580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then you haven't bought a new phone in a long time, even my oldest nokia takes great photos, my current blackberry takes excellent photos, let me guess if it doesn't have eleventy billion  megapixels you don't consider it a good picture, get a life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then you have n't bought a new phone in a long time , even my oldest nokia takes great photos , my current blackberry takes excellent photos , let me guess if it does n't have eleventy billion megapixels you do n't consider it a good picture , get a life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then you haven't bought a new phone in a long time, even my oldest nokia takes great photos, my current blackberry takes excellent photos, let me guess if it doesn't have eleventy billion  megapixels you don't consider it a good picture, get a life.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189298</id>
	<title>yep...</title>
	<author>gandhi\_2</author>
	<datestamp>1258808640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>...why have a watch on your wrist when you can fish it out of your pocket.</p><p>At least pocket watches kept the time even if you were out of cell service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...why have a watch on your wrist when you can fish it out of your pocket.At least pocket watches kept the time even if you were out of cell service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...why have a watch on your wrist when you can fish it out of your pocket.At least pocket watches kept the time even if you were out of cell service.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190624</id>
	<title>Re:Same Old Song, A Jack of all Trades</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1258820340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>any fashionable man knows that a watch is how a guy shows off.</p></div><p>Any fashionable man with a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. ID with 6 digits or less.  Younger men show off with their cell phones, fashionable or not.</p></div>
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<tokenext>any fashionable man knows that a watch is how a guy shows off.Any fashionable man with a / .
ID with 6 digits or less .
Younger men show off with their cell phones , fashionable or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>any fashionable man knows that a watch is how a guy shows off.Any fashionable man with a /.
ID with 6 digits or less.
Younger men show off with their cell phones, fashionable or not.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191098</id>
	<title>Rape whistle</title>
	<author>michaelmalak</author>
	<datestamp>1258826880000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>The most important societal change that the cell phone has brought is freedom of travel for women.  As a result, the rape whistle has been obsoleted.  You can hypothesize all you want about reaction times for the whistle vs. the phone, but empirically speaking, the rape whistle popular in the 1990's is nowhere to be seen in the new millenium.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The most important societal change that the cell phone has brought is freedom of travel for women .
As a result , the rape whistle has been obsoleted .
You can hypothesize all you want about reaction times for the whistle vs. the phone , but empirically speaking , the rape whistle popular in the 1990 's is nowhere to be seen in the new millenium .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The most important societal change that the cell phone has brought is freedom of travel for women.
As a result, the rape whistle has been obsoleted.
You can hypothesize all you want about reaction times for the whistle vs. the phone, but empirically speaking, the rape whistle popular in the 1990's is nowhere to be seen in the new millenium.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191500</id>
	<title>Re:In case you didn't catch all ten</title>
	<author>Lemmy Caution</author>
	<datestamp>1258831980000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wristwatches - Not a chance.  I've tried doing it since my last watch broke, but have hated it the entire time.  Can't wait until I can get the inclination to go find a new watch.</p></div><p>What you're telling me is that, for the time being, the mobile phone <i>is</i> replacing the watch. My watch has broken, and I love it (it's a classic Seiko from the 1980s - nothing very expensive, but it suits me - or so I thought) but I've gone over 2 years without feeling bothered enough to get it fixed.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wristwatches - Not a chance .
I 've tried doing it since my last watch broke , but have hated it the entire time .
Ca n't wait until I can get the inclination to go find a new watch.What you 're telling me is that , for the time being , the mobile phone is replacing the watch .
My watch has broken , and I love it ( it 's a classic Seiko from the 1980s - nothing very expensive , but it suits me - or so I thought ) but I 've gone over 2 years without feeling bothered enough to get it fixed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wristwatches - Not a chance.
I've tried doing it since my last watch broke, but have hated it the entire time.
Can't wait until I can get the inclination to go find a new watch.What you're telling me is that, for the time being, the mobile phone is replacing the watch.
My watch has broken, and I love it (it's a classic Seiko from the 1980s - nothing very expensive, but it suits me - or so I thought) but I've gone over 2 years without feeling bothered enough to get it fixed.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30197424</id>
	<title>Good watches never go out of style.</title>
	<author>Tak\_1</author>
	<datestamp>1258893120000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext> Like most people, I have a wireless phone that tells me the time, but I wear a blue-tooth so I don't HAVE to fish it out of my pocket to look at it when I need it. <br> <br>

 Besides being convenient, a good watch is fun to wear and looks good.  If watches are falling out of favor its because the average Walmart plastic watch is just junk. I love watches, but the choices today seem to be plastic crap, or $3000 mechanical marvels. <br> <br>

 So I favor mechanical/electric geek watches. Mostly vintage Accutron watches, The ones that ran on a 360hz electric tuning fork. Also, the occasional digital from when digital meant expensive. <br> <br>

 The TI digitals are retro antiques, and the Accutrons were the most accurate watches in the world pre quartz. More reliable than a high end mechanical chronograph. The first one, the Accutron 214. This movement had a history with the space program, and there were 214 based timing mechanisms in the Apollo capsule, and some early satellites. <br> <br>

<a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2622/3909134560\_9fb9ea18e6\_b.jpg" title="flickr.com" rel="nofollow">http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2622/3909134560\_9fb9ea18e6\_b.jpg</a> [flickr.com] <br> <br>

And the same type of "tuning fork" watch updated for 1973, still working perfectly, <br> <br>

<a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3661/3608838339\_bf1c040e17\_b.jpg" title="flickr.com" rel="nofollow">http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3661/3608838339\_bf1c040e17\_b.jpg</a> [flickr.com] <br> <br>

Lastly, some vintage LEDs, which never seem to go 100\% out of style. <br> <br>

<a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2471/3864049434\_b03901cd02\_b.jpg" title="flickr.com" rel="nofollow">http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2471/3864049434\_b03901cd02\_b.jpg</a> [flickr.com] [flickr.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like most people , I have a wireless phone that tells me the time , but I wear a blue-tooth so I do n't HAVE to fish it out of my pocket to look at it when I need it .
Besides being convenient , a good watch is fun to wear and looks good .
If watches are falling out of favor its because the average Walmart plastic watch is just junk .
I love watches , but the choices today seem to be plastic crap , or $ 3000 mechanical marvels .
So I favor mechanical/electric geek watches .
Mostly vintage Accutron watches , The ones that ran on a 360hz electric tuning fork .
Also , the occasional digital from when digital meant expensive .
The TI digitals are retro antiques , and the Accutrons were the most accurate watches in the world pre quartz .
More reliable than a high end mechanical chronograph .
The first one , the Accutron 214 .
This movement had a history with the space program , and there were 214 based timing mechanisms in the Apollo capsule , and some early satellites .
http : //farm3.static.flickr.com/2622/3909134560 \ _9fb9ea18e6 \ _b.jpg [ flickr.com ] And the same type of " tuning fork " watch updated for 1973 , still working perfectly , http : //farm4.static.flickr.com/3661/3608838339 \ _bf1c040e17 \ _b.jpg [ flickr.com ] Lastly , some vintage LEDs , which never seem to go 100 \ % out of style .
http : //farm3.static.flickr.com/2471/3864049434 \ _b03901cd02 \ _b.jpg [ flickr.com ] [ flickr.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Like most people, I have a wireless phone that tells me the time, but I wear a blue-tooth so I don't HAVE to fish it out of my pocket to look at it when I need it.
Besides being convenient, a good watch is fun to wear and looks good.
If watches are falling out of favor its because the average Walmart plastic watch is just junk.
I love watches, but the choices today seem to be plastic crap, or $3000 mechanical marvels.
So I favor mechanical/electric geek watches.
Mostly vintage Accutron watches, The ones that ran on a 360hz electric tuning fork.
Also, the occasional digital from when digital meant expensive.
The TI digitals are retro antiques, and the Accutrons were the most accurate watches in the world pre quartz.
More reliable than a high end mechanical chronograph.
The first one, the Accutron 214.
This movement had a history with the space program, and there were 214 based timing mechanisms in the Apollo capsule, and some early satellites.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2622/3909134560\_9fb9ea18e6\_b.jpg [flickr.com]  

And the same type of "tuning fork" watch updated for 1973, still working perfectly,  

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3661/3608838339\_bf1c040e17\_b.jpg [flickr.com]  

Lastly, some vintage LEDs, which never seem to go 100\% out of style.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2471/3864049434\_b03901cd02\_b.jpg [flickr.com] [flickr.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30194586</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>muridae</author>
	<datestamp>1258914060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Think of what the point-and-shoot cameras will be doing in 15 years!</p><p>It is the same as film cameras. The cell phone is the disposable camera of the day. Low quality plastic lenses and, worse than with film, a horrible focal length. Point and shoot cameras are the same as before, some middle quality glass in a small, lightweight form. Some even have rather nice glass in them, good optical zoom, high pixel count. Then the DSLRs, bigger sensors and a larger focal length for a normal lens. For every person out there using a disposable film camera, there was a person who didn't quite like that quality and wanted something better. For their kid's soccer game, or birthday party, or just snapping pictures of their pets, didn't matter. Still won't. The cell phone might make a dent in that market, but until they add some features it won't make them obsolete.</p><p>MP3 players, well I am not far away from a computer during the work day, so 20 hours of battery life is over kill. Just enough battery time to get to my desk, and away from my desk is fine, so my phone works for me. Netbooks, I agree with you about, are a completely different market than cellphones. To some people, a netbook is just enough to check their email and favorite website, which a cellphone can do just fine. But to others they are much more powerful systems in a small package. Having seen Max/MSP on a netbook, I can understand the use for them. I would not want to write and test C or Haskell on a smartphone, but a netbook would be fine.</p><p>If this article had just said "Things that cellphones could replace for some people" or "Markets that cellphones will take a chunk out of" it would be completely different. But none of these are going away just because of cellphones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Think of what the point-and-shoot cameras will be doing in 15 years ! It is the same as film cameras .
The cell phone is the disposable camera of the day .
Low quality plastic lenses and , worse than with film , a horrible focal length .
Point and shoot cameras are the same as before , some middle quality glass in a small , lightweight form .
Some even have rather nice glass in them , good optical zoom , high pixel count .
Then the DSLRs , bigger sensors and a larger focal length for a normal lens .
For every person out there using a disposable film camera , there was a person who did n't quite like that quality and wanted something better .
For their kid 's soccer game , or birthday party , or just snapping pictures of their pets , did n't matter .
Still wo n't .
The cell phone might make a dent in that market , but until they add some features it wo n't make them obsolete.MP3 players , well I am not far away from a computer during the work day , so 20 hours of battery life is over kill .
Just enough battery time to get to my desk , and away from my desk is fine , so my phone works for me .
Netbooks , I agree with you about , are a completely different market than cellphones .
To some people , a netbook is just enough to check their email and favorite website , which a cellphone can do just fine .
But to others they are much more powerful systems in a small package .
Having seen Max/MSP on a netbook , I can understand the use for them .
I would not want to write and test C or Haskell on a smartphone , but a netbook would be fine.If this article had just said " Things that cellphones could replace for some people " or " Markets that cellphones will take a chunk out of " it would be completely different .
But none of these are going away just because of cellphones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Think of what the point-and-shoot cameras will be doing in 15 years!It is the same as film cameras.
The cell phone is the disposable camera of the day.
Low quality plastic lenses and, worse than with film, a horrible focal length.
Point and shoot cameras are the same as before, some middle quality glass in a small, lightweight form.
Some even have rather nice glass in them, good optical zoom, high pixel count.
Then the DSLRs, bigger sensors and a larger focal length for a normal lens.
For every person out there using a disposable film camera, there was a person who didn't quite like that quality and wanted something better.
For their kid's soccer game, or birthday party, or just snapping pictures of their pets, didn't matter.
Still won't.
The cell phone might make a dent in that market, but until they add some features it won't make them obsolete.MP3 players, well I am not far away from a computer during the work day, so 20 hours of battery life is over kill.
Just enough battery time to get to my desk, and away from my desk is fine, so my phone works for me.
Netbooks, I agree with you about, are a completely different market than cellphones.
To some people, a netbook is just enough to check their email and favorite website, which a cellphone can do just fine.
But to others they are much more powerful systems in a small package.
Having seen Max/MSP on a netbook, I can understand the use for them.
I would not want to write and test C or Haskell on a smartphone, but a netbook would be fine.If this article had just said "Things that cellphones could replace for some people" or "Markets that cellphones will take a chunk out of" it would be completely different.
But none of these are going away just because of cellphones.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:#11 --Free Thought.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258814520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's what they WANT you to believe!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what they WANT you to believe !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what they WANT you to believe!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189406</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189984</id>
	<title>begs the frickin question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258814100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please stop misusing "begs the question". It makes you seem very, very stupid.</p><p>"Begs the question" does not mean the same thing as "Raises the question."</p><p>Please don't be stupid on the internet. Please.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please stop misusing " begs the question " .
It makes you seem very , very stupid .
" Begs the question " does not mean the same thing as " Raises the question .
" Please do n't be stupid on the internet .
Please .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please stop misusing "begs the question".
It makes you seem very, very stupid.
"Begs the question" does not mean the same thing as "Raises the question.
"Please don't be stupid on the internet.
Please.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192748</id>
	<title>Re:I'll Keep My Wristwatch, Thanks</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1258899240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You never go to meet people for coffee and wonder if you've got time to look in a few shops before they will arrive?  You never wonder how long it is until closing time to see if you've got enough time for another round before the bar closes?  </p><p>
Possibly it's a coincidence, but none of the posts I've read so far from people who don't have watches seem to acknowledge the existence of places other than home or work.  I don't need a watch when I'm working - the computer time is there - and I don't need a watch at home because there are clocks in most rooms.  Anywhere else, however, a watch is very useful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You never go to meet people for coffee and wonder if you 've got time to look in a few shops before they will arrive ?
You never wonder how long it is until closing time to see if you 've got enough time for another round before the bar closes ?
Possibly it 's a coincidence , but none of the posts I 've read so far from people who do n't have watches seem to acknowledge the existence of places other than home or work .
I do n't need a watch when I 'm working - the computer time is there - and I do n't need a watch at home because there are clocks in most rooms .
Anywhere else , however , a watch is very useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You never go to meet people for coffee and wonder if you've got time to look in a few shops before they will arrive?
You never wonder how long it is until closing time to see if you've got enough time for another round before the bar closes?
Possibly it's a coincidence, but none of the posts I've read so far from people who don't have watches seem to acknowledge the existence of places other than home or work.
I don't need a watch when I'm working - the computer time is there - and I don't need a watch at home because there are clocks in most rooms.
Anywhere else, however, a watch is very useful.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190276</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189846</id>
	<title>Re:GPS</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1258813080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well okay but when I go sea kayaking my garmin etrex will be attached to the deck of the boat and my openmoko will be in a water proof container behind the seat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well okay but when I go sea kayaking my garmin etrex will be attached to the deck of the boat and my openmoko will be in a water proof container behind the seat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well okay but when I go sea kayaking my garmin etrex will be attached to the deck of the boat and my openmoko will be in a water proof container behind the seat.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189676</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30210496</id>
	<title>Watch and Alarm</title>
	<author>GWBasic</author>
	<datestamp>1259002500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I dunno...  Now that I have a cell phone, I have different priorities when I buy a watch.  I no longer care about features or accuracy; I just want a watch that is indestructible and will last forever.  As a result, my current watch has a metal band and uses no battery.</p><p>I also don't get the whole replacing alarm clock thing...  Sometimes I use my phone as an alarm clock, but I still prefer my real alarm clock.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I dunno... Now that I have a cell phone , I have different priorities when I buy a watch .
I no longer care about features or accuracy ; I just want a watch that is indestructible and will last forever .
As a result , my current watch has a metal band and uses no battery.I also do n't get the whole replacing alarm clock thing... Sometimes I use my phone as an alarm clock , but I still prefer my real alarm clock .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dunno...  Now that I have a cell phone, I have different priorities when I buy a watch.
I no longer care about features or accuracy; I just want a watch that is indestructible and will last forever.
As a result, my current watch has a metal band and uses no battery.I also don't get the whole replacing alarm clock thing...  Sometimes I use my phone as an alarm clock, but I still prefer my real alarm clock.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189528</id>
	<title>Wrist Watches are Useful</title>
	<author>Greyfox</author>
	<datestamp>1258810260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Juggling out the cellphone just doesn't have quite the same flair as pausing and then checking your wrist watch for about 5 seconds when the interviewer tells you that 20 hours of overtime a week is "normal" for the position you're interviewing for.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Juggling out the cellphone just does n't have quite the same flair as pausing and then checking your wrist watch for about 5 seconds when the interviewer tells you that 20 hours of overtime a week is " normal " for the position you 're interviewing for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Juggling out the cellphone just doesn't have quite the same flair as pausing and then checking your wrist watch for about 5 seconds when the interviewer tells you that 20 hours of overtime a week is "normal" for the position you're interviewing for.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190246</id>
	<title>Re:Wrist Watches are Useful</title>
	<author>jd</author>
	<datestamp>1258816080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What you really want is a James Bond wristwatch with 0.5T magnetic field generator whenever you turn the dial. Saves on having to spend 5 seconds looking at the bloody time when the server room explodes and the users' machines go into meltdown.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What you really want is a James Bond wristwatch with 0.5T magnetic field generator whenever you turn the dial .
Saves on having to spend 5 seconds looking at the bloody time when the server room explodes and the users ' machines go into meltdown .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What you really want is a James Bond wristwatch with 0.5T magnetic field generator whenever you turn the dial.
Saves on having to spend 5 seconds looking at the bloody time when the server room explodes and the users' machines go into meltdown.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189528</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190712</id>
	<title>Handheld Gaming Still Has Some Years Left</title>
	<author>aplusjimages</author>
	<datestamp>1258821420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>iPhone can't touch the DS. Nintendo still sells almost half a million units every month and it's been that way for years. I still carry my DS with me because my cell can't do the games that my DS can. And it's an industry issue. How do you get Nintendo to give up their IP onto someone elses cellphone/gaming device? Mario is theirs to keep.</htmltext>
<tokenext>iPhone ca n't touch the DS .
Nintendo still sells almost half a million units every month and it 's been that way for years .
I still carry my DS with me because my cell ca n't do the games that my DS can .
And it 's an industry issue .
How do you get Nintendo to give up their IP onto someone elses cellphone/gaming device ?
Mario is theirs to keep .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iPhone can't touch the DS.
Nintendo still sells almost half a million units every month and it's been that way for years.
I still carry my DS with me because my cell can't do the games that my DS can.
And it's an industry issue.
How do you get Nintendo to give up their IP onto someone elses cellphone/gaming device?
Mario is theirs to keep.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190130</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258815120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's next to impossible. Phones need to be very small, lightweight and damage-resistant, the electronics need to be exceedingly low-power <i>and</i> the electronics for the camera and the electronics for the radio transceiver can't conflict.</p><p>That last requirement means is you use digital devices that produce analogue signals, the resolution on the ADC has to be so crappy that the RFI from the radio doesn't screw up the picture AND the voltage changes when a call is picked up or an alarm goes off or what have you can't throw the ADC.</p><p>The low-power means no fancy, power-hungry logic, the software zoom and other floating-point logic won't be terribly high precision, and the image compression algorithm will need to be light on the quality.</p><p>The size and damage-resistance impacts what sort of lens you can use, how rigid the structure has to be, how much the user can just seriously screw up the device before the image quality drops. Even for a disposable standalone camera, it's practical to put in some quite acceptable optics.</p><p>Even when such devices are of a size comparable to that OF the phone, you've got to remember that the camera is sans radio (or radios, for phones that have bluetooth and/or wifi and/or AM/FM tuners as well as the standard phone radio), sans keyboard, sans quite a bit of space-hungry stuff that phones either need or have as "features".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's next to impossible .
Phones need to be very small , lightweight and damage-resistant , the electronics need to be exceedingly low-power and the electronics for the camera and the electronics for the radio transceiver ca n't conflict.That last requirement means is you use digital devices that produce analogue signals , the resolution on the ADC has to be so crappy that the RFI from the radio does n't screw up the picture AND the voltage changes when a call is picked up or an alarm goes off or what have you ca n't throw the ADC.The low-power means no fancy , power-hungry logic , the software zoom and other floating-point logic wo n't be terribly high precision , and the image compression algorithm will need to be light on the quality.The size and damage-resistance impacts what sort of lens you can use , how rigid the structure has to be , how much the user can just seriously screw up the device before the image quality drops .
Even for a disposable standalone camera , it 's practical to put in some quite acceptable optics.Even when such devices are of a size comparable to that OF the phone , you 've got to remember that the camera is sans radio ( or radios , for phones that have bluetooth and/or wifi and/or AM/FM tuners as well as the standard phone radio ) , sans keyboard , sans quite a bit of space-hungry stuff that phones either need or have as " features " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's next to impossible.
Phones need to be very small, lightweight and damage-resistant, the electronics need to be exceedingly low-power and the electronics for the camera and the electronics for the radio transceiver can't conflict.That last requirement means is you use digital devices that produce analogue signals, the resolution on the ADC has to be so crappy that the RFI from the radio doesn't screw up the picture AND the voltage changes when a call is picked up or an alarm goes off or what have you can't throw the ADC.The low-power means no fancy, power-hungry logic, the software zoom and other floating-point logic won't be terribly high precision, and the image compression algorithm will need to be light on the quality.The size and damage-resistance impacts what sort of lens you can use, how rigid the structure has to be, how much the user can just seriously screw up the device before the image quality drops.
Even for a disposable standalone camera, it's practical to put in some quite acceptable optics.Even when such devices are of a size comparable to that OF the phone, you've got to remember that the camera is sans radio (or radios, for phones that have bluetooth and/or wifi and/or AM/FM tuners as well as the standard phone radio), sans keyboard, sans quite a bit of space-hungry stuff that phones either need or have as "features".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189354</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30200508</id>
	<title>My watch is dead</title>
	<author>prometx42</author>
	<datestamp>1258976940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When "smart phones" rival wristwatches in battery life, we'll talk</htmltext>
<tokenext>When " smart phones " rival wristwatches in battery life , we 'll talk</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When "smart phones" rival wristwatches in battery life, we'll talk</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192834</id>
	<title>Re:#11 --Free Thought.</title>
	<author>martas</author>
	<datestamp>1258900440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>actually this is a good point. the tighter social networks become (and definitely advanced mobile devices help this process - what with everyone checking FB on their iphones, and all), the less time and need people have to listen to that tiny voice in their head called their brain. it's a signal to noise ratio issue, if you consider a person's own mind the signal, and everything from the outside noise. 200 years ago the average person probably had to make a 3-day horseback trip just to find noise, but today there are 10kW speakers jammed in our ears pumping the mental equivalent of thrash metal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>actually this is a good point .
the tighter social networks become ( and definitely advanced mobile devices help this process - what with everyone checking FB on their iphones , and all ) , the less time and need people have to listen to that tiny voice in their head called their brain .
it 's a signal to noise ratio issue , if you consider a person 's own mind the signal , and everything from the outside noise .
200 years ago the average person probably had to make a 3-day horseback trip just to find noise , but today there are 10kW speakers jammed in our ears pumping the mental equivalent of thrash metal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>actually this is a good point.
the tighter social networks become (and definitely advanced mobile devices help this process - what with everyone checking FB on their iphones, and all), the less time and need people have to listen to that tiny voice in their head called their brain.
it's a signal to noise ratio issue, if you consider a person's own mind the signal, and everything from the outside noise.
200 years ago the average person probably had to make a 3-day horseback trip just to find noise, but today there are 10kW speakers jammed in our ears pumping the mental equivalent of thrash metal.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189406</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30195312</id>
	<title>Re:Watches</title>
	<author>DavidTC</author>
	<datestamp>1258919880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How did your bathroom sink have a Bulova Marine Star?</p><p>
Or did you mean your cat used a Bulova Marine Star to push the crystal off the bathroom sink?</p><p>
And how was the crystal on your bathroom sink and the Seiko Helmet at the same time?</p><p>
Is your bathroom sink a watch, or does it <b>have</b> a watch?)</p><p>
I'm so confused.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How did your bathroom sink have a Bulova Marine Star ?
Or did you mean your cat used a Bulova Marine Star to push the crystal off the bathroom sink ?
And how was the crystal on your bathroom sink and the Seiko Helmet at the same time ?
Is your bathroom sink a watch , or does it have a watch ?
) I 'm so confused .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How did your bathroom sink have a Bulova Marine Star?
Or did you mean your cat used a Bulova Marine Star to push the crystal off the bathroom sink?
And how was the crystal on your bathroom sink and the Seiko Helmet at the same time?
Is your bathroom sink a watch, or does it have a watch?
)
I'm so confused.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189386</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30194194</id>
	<title>Wristwatches - No.</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1258911600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps for people that think a quality watch is a 2 dollar walmart special will migrate to their cellphone, but for those of us that still appreciate a quality ( normally mechanical ) timepiece, they will continue to wear a watch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps for people that think a quality watch is a 2 dollar walmart special will migrate to their cellphone , but for those of us that still appreciate a quality ( normally mechanical ) timepiece , they will continue to wear a watch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps for people that think a quality watch is a 2 dollar walmart special will migrate to their cellphone, but for those of us that still appreciate a quality ( normally mechanical ) timepiece, they will continue to wear a watch.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30201494</id>
	<title>Re:Five more things mobile p... make obs...e</title>
	<author>DiEx-15</author>
	<datestamp>1258988880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cell Phones obsoleting hand held game systems like the DS? <br> <br>
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL! Iphones are no match to Nintendo's hand helds! Whenever one thing tries to topple it, might as well sing "Another one bites the dust"!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cell Phones obsoleting hand held game systems like the DS ?
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL !
Iphones are no match to Nintendo 's hand helds !
Whenever one thing tries to topple it , might as well sing " Another one bites the dust " !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cell Phones obsoleting hand held game systems like the DS?
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!
Iphones are no match to Nintendo's hand helds!
Whenever one thing tries to topple it, might as well sing "Another one bites the dust"!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189360</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191872</id>
	<title>Re:I found an 11th thing...</title>
	<author>ah802</author>
	<datestamp>1258881180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And in that vein, spring load switches and timers are eliminated from roadside bombs..</htmltext>
<tokenext>And in that vein , spring load switches and timers are eliminated from roadside bombs. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And in that vein, spring load switches and timers are eliminated from roadside bombs..</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190552</id>
	<title>cell phones too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258819200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One other thing that will be made obsolete.</p><p>Mobile Phones.</p><p>The replacement can best be referred to as an 'aid' or personal device</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One other thing that will be made obsolete.Mobile Phones.The replacement can best be referred to as an 'aid ' or personal device</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One other thing that will be made obsolete.Mobile Phones.The replacement can best be referred to as an 'aid' or personal device</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190412</id>
	<title>Form Factor</title>
	<author>izomiac</author>
	<datestamp>1258817640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mobile phones can replace a lot of things, but some will persist because they require a specific form factor.  Wristwatches, gaming devices, movie players, and paper won't be going away.  A mobile phone may emulate them, and that works in a pinch, but these items have a unique shape that augments their function.  For a wristwatch it stays on your wrist, for a gaming device it's gaming controls, for a movie player it's a decently large screen, and paper is paper.  A cell phone too has a specific form that is necessary for functionality.  Blue tooth headsets might alleviate that need, but you'd still need two devices so why bother?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mobile phones can replace a lot of things , but some will persist because they require a specific form factor .
Wristwatches , gaming devices , movie players , and paper wo n't be going away .
A mobile phone may emulate them , and that works in a pinch , but these items have a unique shape that augments their function .
For a wristwatch it stays on your wrist , for a gaming device it 's gaming controls , for a movie player it 's a decently large screen , and paper is paper .
A cell phone too has a specific form that is necessary for functionality .
Blue tooth headsets might alleviate that need , but you 'd still need two devices so why bother ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mobile phones can replace a lot of things, but some will persist because they require a specific form factor.
Wristwatches, gaming devices, movie players, and paper won't be going away.
A mobile phone may emulate them, and that works in a pinch, but these items have a unique shape that augments their function.
For a wristwatch it stays on your wrist, for a gaming device it's gaming controls, for a movie player it's a decently large screen, and paper is paper.
A cell phone too has a specific form that is necessary for functionality.
Blue tooth headsets might alleviate that need, but you'd still need two devices so why bother?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190322</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>WCguru42</author>
	<datestamp>1258816680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Camera phones won't be as good as point and shoot phones until they start implementing multi stage lenses like every other camera does. But doing that increases complexity, increases failure points from dropping and hurts battery life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Camera phones wo n't be as good as point and shoot phones until they start implementing multi stage lenses like every other camera does .
But doing that increases complexity , increases failure points from dropping and hurts battery life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Camera phones won't be as good as point and shoot phones until they start implementing multi stage lenses like every other camera does.
But doing that increases complexity, increases failure points from dropping and hurts battery life.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189354</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191194</id>
	<title>Re:No phone booths?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258828140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where do you live that still has phone booths? Hell, I haven't seen a pay phone (sans booth) in years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where do you live that still has phone booths ?
Hell , I have n't seen a pay phone ( sans booth ) in years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where do you live that still has phone booths?
Hell, I haven't seen a pay phone (sans booth) in years.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189408</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192196</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>YourExperiment</author>
	<datestamp>1258888560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry, but I don't believe your arguments hold water.</p><p>For a start, phones don't need to be "very small, lightweight and damage-resistant". Some people might demand this from their phones, but it's not a given. Smart phones these days are getting pretty large - look at the iPhone, or more recent devices like the HTC Touch HD2. These devices <i>need</i> to be big, to fit a screen large enough for web browsing. A big glass screen also guarantees that your phone can't be particularly damage resistant, so you just have to take a bit more care of it.</p><p>The electronics don't need to be any more low-power than those in compact cameras, where batteries last tolerably well. Smart phones have 1GHz processors in them these days, so there's no lack of processing power available for image processing.</p><p>I'll admit that the RFI problem <i>might</i> be a genuine issue, although I've never heard of any problem caused by cards like the <a href="http://www.eye.fi/" title="www.eye.fi">Eye-Fi</a> [www.eye.fi]. If this is a problem, however, it's not rocket science to turn off the radio circuitry while a picture is taken and reactivate it afterwards. Heck, many phones even include exactly this ability as an "airplane mode"</p><p>What's more, the camera and the cell phone are a perfect fit. Both have a large LCD screen, a battery, a processor and a storage device. Putting the two devices together is cutting out a whole load of redundancy, both in terms of weight and cost. The resulting device might not be quite as sleek as current smart phones, due to the extra width necessary to fit a decent lens assembly, and admittedly this is a shame. But no doubt manufacturers would produce different models, some sleek ones with crappy cameras (or no camera at all) for people with your needs, and some slightly bulkier but with decent cameras for people like me.</p><p>Obviously a cell phone camera will never replace a good SLR, for those who need to take "proper" photographs. But there's no reason that it can't take good pictures, and thereby completely obviate the need for a separate compact camera. I only hope manufacturers hurry up and implement decent cameras in cell phones, because it's long overdue.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , but I do n't believe your arguments hold water.For a start , phones do n't need to be " very small , lightweight and damage-resistant " .
Some people might demand this from their phones , but it 's not a given .
Smart phones these days are getting pretty large - look at the iPhone , or more recent devices like the HTC Touch HD2 .
These devices need to be big , to fit a screen large enough for web browsing .
A big glass screen also guarantees that your phone ca n't be particularly damage resistant , so you just have to take a bit more care of it.The electronics do n't need to be any more low-power than those in compact cameras , where batteries last tolerably well .
Smart phones have 1GHz processors in them these days , so there 's no lack of processing power available for image processing.I 'll admit that the RFI problem might be a genuine issue , although I 've never heard of any problem caused by cards like the Eye-Fi [ www.eye.fi ] .
If this is a problem , however , it 's not rocket science to turn off the radio circuitry while a picture is taken and reactivate it afterwards .
Heck , many phones even include exactly this ability as an " airplane mode " What 's more , the camera and the cell phone are a perfect fit .
Both have a large LCD screen , a battery , a processor and a storage device .
Putting the two devices together is cutting out a whole load of redundancy , both in terms of weight and cost .
The resulting device might not be quite as sleek as current smart phones , due to the extra width necessary to fit a decent lens assembly , and admittedly this is a shame .
But no doubt manufacturers would produce different models , some sleek ones with crappy cameras ( or no camera at all ) for people with your needs , and some slightly bulkier but with decent cameras for people like me.Obviously a cell phone camera will never replace a good SLR , for those who need to take " proper " photographs .
But there 's no reason that it ca n't take good pictures , and thereby completely obviate the need for a separate compact camera .
I only hope manufacturers hurry up and implement decent cameras in cell phones , because it 's long overdue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, but I don't believe your arguments hold water.For a start, phones don't need to be "very small, lightweight and damage-resistant".
Some people might demand this from their phones, but it's not a given.
Smart phones these days are getting pretty large - look at the iPhone, or more recent devices like the HTC Touch HD2.
These devices need to be big, to fit a screen large enough for web browsing.
A big glass screen also guarantees that your phone can't be particularly damage resistant, so you just have to take a bit more care of it.The electronics don't need to be any more low-power than those in compact cameras, where batteries last tolerably well.
Smart phones have 1GHz processors in them these days, so there's no lack of processing power available for image processing.I'll admit that the RFI problem might be a genuine issue, although I've never heard of any problem caused by cards like the Eye-Fi [www.eye.fi].
If this is a problem, however, it's not rocket science to turn off the radio circuitry while a picture is taken and reactivate it afterwards.
Heck, many phones even include exactly this ability as an "airplane mode"What's more, the camera and the cell phone are a perfect fit.
Both have a large LCD screen, a battery, a processor and a storage device.
Putting the two devices together is cutting out a whole load of redundancy, both in terms of weight and cost.
The resulting device might not be quite as sleek as current smart phones, due to the extra width necessary to fit a decent lens assembly, and admittedly this is a shame.
But no doubt manufacturers would produce different models, some sleek ones with crappy cameras (or no camera at all) for people with your needs, and some slightly bulkier but with decent cameras for people like me.Obviously a cell phone camera will never replace a good SLR, for those who need to take "proper" photographs.
But there's no reason that it can't take good pictures, and thereby completely obviate the need for a separate compact camera.
I only hope manufacturers hurry up and implement decent cameras in cell phones, because it's long overdue.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190278</id>
	<title>I hope nobody got paid for writing that.</title>
	<author>dswensen</author>
	<datestamp>1258816320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love the tail end of this dross:</p><p>"What do maps, dictionaries and novels have in common? They're all printed on paper and they can be heavy, expensive and difficult to access."</p><p>Digital smartphones: cheaper than a map or novel!</p><p>Twee, useless article.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love the tail end of this dross : " What do maps , dictionaries and novels have in common ?
They 're all printed on paper and they can be heavy , expensive and difficult to access .
" Digital smartphones : cheaper than a map or novel ! Twee , useless article .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love the tail end of this dross:"What do maps, dictionaries and novels have in common?
They're all printed on paper and they can be heavy, expensive and difficult to access.
"Digital smartphones: cheaper than a map or novel!Twee, useless article.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30195150</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>DavidTC</author>
	<datestamp>1258918620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know why you're presenting conflict between the radio receiver and camera as insurmountable.</p><p>
Most people would notice if their radio reception went to crap for the fraction of a second it takes to record the light. Most people aren't actually talking on the phone when taking a picture. (In fact, many phones can't even do that.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know why you 're presenting conflict between the radio receiver and camera as insurmountable .
Most people would notice if their radio reception went to crap for the fraction of a second it takes to record the light .
Most people are n't actually talking on the phone when taking a picture .
( In fact , many phones ca n't even do that .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know why you're presenting conflict between the radio receiver and camera as insurmountable.
Most people would notice if their radio reception went to crap for the fraction of a second it takes to record the light.
Most people aren't actually talking on the phone when taking a picture.
(In fact, many phones can't even do that.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190422</id>
	<title>Not handheld game consoles</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258817700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The one thing that determines how good a handheld game console is the quality of the controller.  For instance, it's impossible to play console-style games on a PDA keypad, or a touch screen.  You need an honest-to-god D-PAD or Analog stick and buttons to play console-style games.  That's why the Game Boy and Nintendo DS hasn't been displaced already.</p><p>You just can't play Super Mario Bros on an iPhone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The one thing that determines how good a handheld game console is the quality of the controller .
For instance , it 's impossible to play console-style games on a PDA keypad , or a touch screen .
You need an honest-to-god D-PAD or Analog stick and buttons to play console-style games .
That 's why the Game Boy and Nintendo DS has n't been displaced already.You just ca n't play Super Mario Bros on an iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The one thing that determines how good a handheld game console is the quality of the controller.
For instance, it's impossible to play console-style games on a PDA keypad, or a touch screen.
You need an honest-to-god D-PAD or Analog stick and buttons to play console-style games.
That's why the Game Boy and Nintendo DS hasn't been displaced already.You just can't play Super Mario Bros on an iPhone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191136</id>
	<title>It's ALL about ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258827300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's <b>all</b> about the <i>consolidation</i> of <b>power</b>.
</p><p>Get a society <b>addicted</b> to, uh, I mean, using a perceived <i>essential</i> technology, and then turn it <b>off</b>, when those with a master <b>off</b> switch want <b>control</b>.
</p><p>It's painfully obvious, and most of you jump right in, because, <i>"Awwwww, that would never happen here".</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's all about the consolidation of power .
Get a society addicted to , uh , I mean , using a perceived essential technology , and then turn it off , when those with a master off switch want control .
It 's painfully obvious , and most of you jump right in , because , " Awwwww , that would never happen here " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's all about the consolidation of power.
Get a society addicted to, uh, I mean, using a perceived essential technology, and then turn it off, when those with a master off switch want control.
It's painfully obvious, and most of you jump right in, because, "Awwwww, that would never happen here".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192670</id>
	<title>Re:Convergence.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258898280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It really is amazing how many features they keep cramming into these tiny devices.  Maybe I'm a dreamer, but I am hopeful that in the next couple of years somebody will figure out a way to make reliable phone calls with these things.</p></div><p>Have you tried Skype?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It really is amazing how many features they keep cramming into these tiny devices .
Maybe I 'm a dreamer , but I am hopeful that in the next couple of years somebody will figure out a way to make reliable phone calls with these things.Have you tried Skype ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It really is amazing how many features they keep cramming into these tiny devices.
Maybe I'm a dreamer, but I am hopeful that in the next couple of years somebody will figure out a way to make reliable phone calls with these things.Have you tried Skype?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191476</id>
	<title>Re:Neo-luddite</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258831680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>we're a little far from walking in the jungle throwing spears, aren't we?</p></div></blockquote><p>Yes. That sounds like far too much effort. Why can't my phone throw the spears for me?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>we 're a little far from walking in the jungle throwing spears , are n't we ? Yes .
That sounds like far too much effort .
Why ca n't my phone throw the spears for me ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>we're a little far from walking in the jungle throwing spears, aren't we?Yes.
That sounds like far too much effort.
Why can't my phone throw the spears for me?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30199328</id>
	<title>Re:Convergence.</title>
	<author>MobyTurbo</author>
	<datestamp>1258910520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It really is amazing how many features they keep cramming into these tiny devices.  Maybe I'm a dreamer, but I am hopeful that in the next couple of years somebody will figure out a way to make reliable phone calls with these things.</p></div><p>The reason why they have so many features is because the smartphone killed the PDA. I can't believe is that it took phones to get non-geeks to carry around a PDA everywhere they went. Now the PDA, an advanced one like a Palm Pilot I mean, not an "organizer", *that* is a convergence device. A smartphone is simply a PDA with just one more function, and a function that doesn't really fit the device except as a way to get the hoi poli to want to have it around all the time.</p><p>It surprises me that the article didn't mention the mobile phone killing the handheld PDA, that is clearly the biggest casualty of the smartphone; even Palm Inc. doesn't make PDAs anymore, they became the first popular smartphone company, and that's all they make now. The only new PDAs you can purchase now outside of Japan are a few Windows Mobile devices like the iPaq or whatever that are not worth purchasing.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It really is amazing how many features they keep cramming into these tiny devices .
Maybe I 'm a dreamer , but I am hopeful that in the next couple of years somebody will figure out a way to make reliable phone calls with these things.The reason why they have so many features is because the smartphone killed the PDA .
I ca n't believe is that it took phones to get non-geeks to carry around a PDA everywhere they went .
Now the PDA , an advanced one like a Palm Pilot I mean , not an " organizer " , * that * is a convergence device .
A smartphone is simply a PDA with just one more function , and a function that does n't really fit the device except as a way to get the hoi poli to want to have it around all the time.It surprises me that the article did n't mention the mobile phone killing the handheld PDA , that is clearly the biggest casualty of the smartphone ; even Palm Inc. does n't make PDAs anymore , they became the first popular smartphone company , and that 's all they make now .
The only new PDAs you can purchase now outside of Japan are a few Windows Mobile devices like the iPaq or whatever that are not worth purchasing .
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It really is amazing how many features they keep cramming into these tiny devices.
Maybe I'm a dreamer, but I am hopeful that in the next couple of years somebody will figure out a way to make reliable phone calls with these things.The reason why they have so many features is because the smartphone killed the PDA.
I can't believe is that it took phones to get non-geeks to carry around a PDA everywhere they went.
Now the PDA, an advanced one like a Palm Pilot I mean, not an "organizer", *that* is a convergence device.
A smartphone is simply a PDA with just one more function, and a function that doesn't really fit the device except as a way to get the hoi poli to want to have it around all the time.It surprises me that the article didn't mention the mobile phone killing the handheld PDA, that is clearly the biggest casualty of the smartphone; even Palm Inc. doesn't make PDAs anymore, they became the first popular smartphone company, and that's all they make now.
The only new PDAs you can purchase now outside of Japan are a few Windows Mobile devices like the iPaq or whatever that are not worth purchasing.
;-)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190754</id>
	<title>Re:Same Old Song, A Jack of all Trades</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258822140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Even the music functions of an iPhone aren't as good as a regular iPod"</p><p>What on earth? The music functionality is an exact clone of the iPod touch, its literally the same software.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Even the music functions of an iPhone are n't as good as a regular iPod " What on earth ?
The music functionality is an exact clone of the iPod touch , its literally the same software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Even the music functions of an iPhone aren't as good as a regular iPod"What on earth?
The music functionality is an exact clone of the iPod touch, its literally the same software.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190026</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1258814400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Someone here on Slashdot recently offered a resolution to this issue: begging the question (intransitive) refers to a claimed proof which assumes that which it is proving, while begging the question of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... (transitive) refers to something which prompts a question. I must obsess as well since this resolution puts me somewhat at ease, keeping the meanints distinct and clear from context based on grammatical use.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone here on Slashdot recently offered a resolution to this issue : begging the question ( intransitive ) refers to a claimed proof which assumes that which it is proving , while begging the question of ... ( transitive ) refers to something which prompts a question .
I must obsess as well since this resolution puts me somewhat at ease , keeping the meanints distinct and clear from context based on grammatical use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone here on Slashdot recently offered a resolution to this issue: begging the question (intransitive) refers to a claimed proof which assumes that which it is proving, while begging the question of ... (transitive) refers to something which prompts a question.
I must obsess as well since this resolution puts me somewhat at ease, keeping the meanints distinct and clear from context based on grammatical use.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191222</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>Lemmy Caution</author>
	<datestamp>1258828620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, it isn't. It separates the kids who went to state schools from those who went to good ones. A very valuable distinction.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , it is n't .
It separates the kids who went to state schools from those who went to good ones .
A very valuable distinction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, it isn't.
It separates the kids who went to state schools from those who went to good ones.
A very valuable distinction.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30200858</id>
	<title>Credit Cards</title>
	<author>Rysc</author>
	<datestamp>1258983480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One day you will pay for things--any things--with your phone. It's a technical reality today, there just hasn't been that "aha" moment yet. Throw in a little infrastructure and an industry organization to coordinate standards for exchanging data and there you go.</p><p>Take your iphone to walmart, load up a cart. Go to a checkout and plug in a data cable/wave near a bluetooth scanner while running a payment app. Confirm the transaction and amount with a button on your screen. Your purchase shows up as a charge on your next "phone" bill or, after the process gets streamlined further and phone companies get in to the credit business more directly, it is charged to your bank account more directly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One day you will pay for things--any things--with your phone .
It 's a technical reality today , there just has n't been that " aha " moment yet .
Throw in a little infrastructure and an industry organization to coordinate standards for exchanging data and there you go.Take your iphone to walmart , load up a cart .
Go to a checkout and plug in a data cable/wave near a bluetooth scanner while running a payment app .
Confirm the transaction and amount with a button on your screen .
Your purchase shows up as a charge on your next " phone " bill or , after the process gets streamlined further and phone companies get in to the credit business more directly , it is charged to your bank account more directly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One day you will pay for things--any things--with your phone.
It's a technical reality today, there just hasn't been that "aha" moment yet.
Throw in a little infrastructure and an industry organization to coordinate standards for exchanging data and there you go.Take your iphone to walmart, load up a cart.
Go to a checkout and plug in a data cable/wave near a bluetooth scanner while running a payment app.
Confirm the transaction and amount with a button on your screen.
Your purchase shows up as a charge on your next "phone" bill or, after the process gets streamlined further and phone companies get in to the credit business more directly, it is charged to your bank account more directly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190366</id>
	<title>Re:Same Old Song, A Jack of all Trades</title>
	<author>WCguru42</author>
	<datestamp>1258817220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And yeah, you can use it as a watch, but any fashionable man knows that a watch is how a guy shows off.  It's the only acceptable piece of jewelry for the well dressed man.</p></div><p>What happened to class rings?  Or wedding rings?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And yeah , you can use it as a watch , but any fashionable man knows that a watch is how a guy shows off .
It 's the only acceptable piece of jewelry for the well dressed man.What happened to class rings ?
Or wedding rings ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And yeah, you can use it as a watch, but any fashionable man knows that a watch is how a guy shows off.
It's the only acceptable piece of jewelry for the well dressed man.What happened to class rings?
Or wedding rings?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190778</id>
	<title>Re:Neo-luddite</title>
	<author>awshidahak</author>
	<datestamp>1258822560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You young people with your mind-numbing spears.  Back in my day we had to actually attack and kill our food with our bare hands.  It took a bit longer, but we had our pride.  You had to actually calculate how you were going to attack the beast and then it was a constant thought process to keep alive.  And we liked it.

Now get off my lawn.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You young people with your mind-numbing spears .
Back in my day we had to actually attack and kill our food with our bare hands .
It took a bit longer , but we had our pride .
You had to actually calculate how you were going to attack the beast and then it was a constant thought process to keep alive .
And we liked it .
Now get off my lawn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You young people with your mind-numbing spears.
Back in my day we had to actually attack and kill our food with our bare hands.
It took a bit longer, but we had our pride.
You had to actually calculate how you were going to attack the beast and then it was a constant thought process to keep alive.
And we liked it.
Now get off my lawn.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192624</id>
	<title>Everything, except calling people</title>
	<author>Jaro</author>
	<datestamp>1258897800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First off: I have a smartphone, I'm a *nix person, I've been using a Mac since 2006 (great UI) and my phone is a Windows Mobile 6.1 phone<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... stupid. I know.</p><p>My phones does everything. But really I only use it for phone calls. Often I get a phone call and I can't get it because the software has crashed and I need to reboot the phone. My old Motorola C115 was perfect. It could only really be used as a phone and never crashed.</p><p>Because I use a Mac I also carry around an iPod Touch (wlan, Apps, iCal, Music, Videos) and because I'm a photographer I still always carry around a "real" camera (Lumix LX3), and I only carry that camera for snapshots. For the "real thing" I carry much heavier gear.</p><p>The only thing I consider removing from this mix is my smartphone. All the other good things are there to stay.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First off : I have a smartphone , I 'm a * nix person , I 've been using a Mac since 2006 ( great UI ) and my phone is a Windows Mobile 6.1 phone .... stupid. I know.My phones does everything .
But really I only use it for phone calls .
Often I get a phone call and I ca n't get it because the software has crashed and I need to reboot the phone .
My old Motorola C115 was perfect .
It could only really be used as a phone and never crashed.Because I use a Mac I also carry around an iPod Touch ( wlan , Apps , iCal , Music , Videos ) and because I 'm a photographer I still always carry around a " real " camera ( Lumix LX3 ) , and I only carry that camera for snapshots .
For the " real thing " I carry much heavier gear.The only thing I consider removing from this mix is my smartphone .
All the other good things are there to stay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First off: I have a smartphone, I'm a *nix person, I've been using a Mac since 2006 (great UI) and my phone is a Windows Mobile 6.1 phone .... stupid. I know.My phones does everything.
But really I only use it for phone calls.
Often I get a phone call and I can't get it because the software has crashed and I need to reboot the phone.
My old Motorola C115 was perfect.
It could only really be used as a phone and never crashed.Because I use a Mac I also carry around an iPod Touch (wlan, Apps, iCal, Music, Videos) and because I'm a photographer I still always carry around a "real" camera (Lumix LX3), and I only carry that camera for snapshots.
For the "real thing" I carry much heavier gear.The only thing I consider removing from this mix is my smartphone.
All the other good things are there to stay.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30204630</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>Cro Magnon</author>
	<datestamp>1259006100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For many of us, its a choice between a crappy camera and none.  If I were PLANNING to take pictures, I'd want a real camera.  But, more likely, I'll happen to see something I want to shoot, and I don't routinely carry a camera around.  I do routinely carry a phone with something resembling a camera.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For many of us , its a choice between a crappy camera and none .
If I were PLANNING to take pictures , I 'd want a real camera .
But , more likely , I 'll happen to see something I want to shoot , and I do n't routinely carry a camera around .
I do routinely carry a phone with something resembling a camera .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For many of us, its a choice between a crappy camera and none.
If I were PLANNING to take pictures, I'd want a real camera.
But, more likely, I'll happen to see something I want to shoot, and I don't routinely carry a camera around.
I do routinely carry a phone with something resembling a camera.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191464</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191016</id>
	<title>Where are the frickin flying cars?</title>
	<author>EmperorOfCanada</author>
	<datestamp>1258825860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I find most predictions like this extrapolate a technology and start solving problems that we don't have. Flying cars are a great example. What problem do they solve that is worth the effort vs. what problems they create?
So a great prognosticator would answer a much more interesting problem. Ten things that will make the mobile phone obsolete? And tell me this in the middle of a wave of cell phone innovation.
Keep in mind that the medium is the message. So while so many companies try to create ebooks with eInk you must ask yourself. Is it that people want electronic books with eInk or is that we want information available to us? (a book being the best storage solution until recently) I have an Sony PRS and it is fine for some things but for many books I much prefer an audiobook to paper or eInk. A map I want on my iPhone, some lectures I want in video others audio. But these preferences are being shaped by the technology; not some pre-existing desire to have audio books or whatnot. Audiobooks now fit nicely on my iPhone but reading a book on the iPhone is nearly useless. Quickly flipping through eInk is nearly impossible at this point and thinks like magazines are very flip friendly. But a slight change in eBooks or iPhones capability could wildly shape how I want my information. An ebook with limited video capability might be cool but beyond a few animations in science textbooks I would think it would be a deadend. People are demanding annotation capability for eBooks but when was the last time you annotated a Spy Thriller? Basically what I am trying to point out is that something as simple as the lowly book could end up heading in many directions with just the technology on today's table. I would be loathe to predict the book's future in even 5 years. The cellphone is a much more hydra technology than books so who knows where it could possibly go?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I find most predictions like this extrapolate a technology and start solving problems that we do n't have .
Flying cars are a great example .
What problem do they solve that is worth the effort vs. what problems they create ?
So a great prognosticator would answer a much more interesting problem .
Ten things that will make the mobile phone obsolete ?
And tell me this in the middle of a wave of cell phone innovation .
Keep in mind that the medium is the message .
So while so many companies try to create ebooks with eInk you must ask yourself .
Is it that people want electronic books with eInk or is that we want information available to us ?
( a book being the best storage solution until recently ) I have an Sony PRS and it is fine for some things but for many books I much prefer an audiobook to paper or eInk .
A map I want on my iPhone , some lectures I want in video others audio .
But these preferences are being shaped by the technology ; not some pre-existing desire to have audio books or whatnot .
Audiobooks now fit nicely on my iPhone but reading a book on the iPhone is nearly useless .
Quickly flipping through eInk is nearly impossible at this point and thinks like magazines are very flip friendly .
But a slight change in eBooks or iPhones capability could wildly shape how I want my information .
An ebook with limited video capability might be cool but beyond a few animations in science textbooks I would think it would be a deadend .
People are demanding annotation capability for eBooks but when was the last time you annotated a Spy Thriller ?
Basically what I am trying to point out is that something as simple as the lowly book could end up heading in many directions with just the technology on today 's table .
I would be loathe to predict the book 's future in even 5 years .
The cellphone is a much more hydra technology than books so who knows where it could possibly go ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find most predictions like this extrapolate a technology and start solving problems that we don't have.
Flying cars are a great example.
What problem do they solve that is worth the effort vs. what problems they create?
So a great prognosticator would answer a much more interesting problem.
Ten things that will make the mobile phone obsolete?
And tell me this in the middle of a wave of cell phone innovation.
Keep in mind that the medium is the message.
So while so many companies try to create ebooks with eInk you must ask yourself.
Is it that people want electronic books with eInk or is that we want information available to us?
(a book being the best storage solution until recently) I have an Sony PRS and it is fine for some things but for many books I much prefer an audiobook to paper or eInk.
A map I want on my iPhone, some lectures I want in video others audio.
But these preferences are being shaped by the technology; not some pre-existing desire to have audio books or whatnot.
Audiobooks now fit nicely on my iPhone but reading a book on the iPhone is nearly useless.
Quickly flipping through eInk is nearly impossible at this point and thinks like magazines are very flip friendly.
But a slight change in eBooks or iPhones capability could wildly shape how I want my information.
An ebook with limited video capability might be cool but beyond a few animations in science textbooks I would think it would be a deadend.
People are demanding annotation capability for eBooks but when was the last time you annotated a Spy Thriller?
Basically what I am trying to point out is that something as simple as the lowly book could end up heading in many directions with just the technology on today's table.
I would be loathe to predict the book's future in even 5 years.
The cellphone is a much more hydra technology than books so who knows where it could possibly go?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189880</id>
	<title>Learn frickin' English</title>
	<author>Lulu of the Lotus-Ea</author>
	<datestamp>1258813260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It does NOT "beg the question"! It might RAISE the question (perhaps not even that), but it certainly does not claim that the question itself is evidence for its truth.</p><p>Kids these days!</p><p>Read: <a href="http://begthequestion.info/" title="begthequestion.info">http://begthequestion.info/</a> [begthequestion.info] (or just a frickin' dictionary).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does NOT " beg the question " !
It might RAISE the question ( perhaps not even that ) , but it certainly does not claim that the question itself is evidence for its truth.Kids these days ! Read : http : //begthequestion.info/ [ begthequestion.info ] ( or just a frickin ' dictionary ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It does NOT "beg the question"!
It might RAISE the question (perhaps not even that), but it certainly does not claim that the question itself is evidence for its truth.Kids these days!Read: http://begthequestion.info/ [begthequestion.info] (or just a frickin' dictionary).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189654</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258811340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>THANK YOU for pointing this out.  People need to learn how to use this phrase properly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>THANK YOU for pointing this out .
People need to learn how to use this phrase properly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>THANK YOU for pointing this out.
People need to learn how to use this phrase properly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189356</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191256</id>
	<title>Re:Convergence.</title>
	<author>Lemmy Caution</author>
	<datestamp>1258828920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What you want is called the "Jitterbug." A simple, dedicated phone designed for confused old people who are frightened by technology and change, and sit in their homes watching re-runs of the Andy Griffith show.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What you want is called the " Jitterbug .
" A simple , dedicated phone designed for confused old people who are frightened by technology and change , and sit in their homes watching re-runs of the Andy Griffith show .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What you want is called the "Jitterbug.
" A simple, dedicated phone designed for confused old people who are frightened by technology and change, and sit in their homes watching re-runs of the Andy Griffith show.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189400</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189926</id>
	<title>Re:Watches</title>
	<author>bmo</author>
	<datestamp>1258813680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?</p><p>--<br>BMO</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like ? --BMO</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?--BMO</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189386</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189386</id>
	<title>Watches</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258809300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yup just replaced my Seiko Helmet which my cat broke the crystal on when it pushed it of my bathroom sink with a nice Bulova Marine Star. It don't make phone calls but sure wears fine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yup just replaced my Seiko Helmet which my cat broke the crystal on when it pushed it of my bathroom sink with a nice Bulova Marine Star .
It do n't make phone calls but sure wears fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yup just replaced my Seiko Helmet which my cat broke the crystal on when it pushed it of my bathroom sink with a nice Bulova Marine Star.
It don't make phone calls but sure wears fine.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189664</id>
	<title>Re:A load of BS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258811460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"Decent cameras will never go away because a phone will never be able to match the feature set of the camera....even compact ones, imo."</i> <br>
<br>
And mainframes will never go away because personal computers will never match the processing power of a mainframe. Right.<br>
<br>
Camera phones may never match the features of a dedicated camera, but they may easily become good enough for most people to use in most practical situations. And computers may not have rid us 100\% of paper (and c'mon, was that really the prediction?), but they have certainly replaced a significant amount of paper records in many offices.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Decent cameras will never go away because a phone will never be able to match the feature set of the camera....even compact ones , imo .
" And mainframes will never go away because personal computers will never match the processing power of a mainframe .
Right . Camera phones may never match the features of a dedicated camera , but they may easily become good enough for most people to use in most practical situations .
And computers may not have rid us 100 \ % of paper ( and c'mon , was that really the prediction ?
) , but they have certainly replaced a significant amount of paper records in many offices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Decent cameras will never go away because a phone will never be able to match the feature set of the camera....even compact ones, imo.
" 

And mainframes will never go away because personal computers will never match the processing power of a mainframe.
Right.

Camera phones may never match the features of a dedicated camera, but they may easily become good enough for most people to use in most practical situations.
And computers may not have rid us 100\% of paper (and c'mon, was that really the prediction?
), but they have certainly replaced a significant amount of paper records in many offices.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189388</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191320</id>
	<title>I don't have a cell phone</title>
	<author>Sam36</author>
	<datestamp>1258829760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I refuse to buy a cell phone.  I will not be a tool of society</htmltext>
<tokenext>I refuse to buy a cell phone .
I will not be a tool of society</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I refuse to buy a cell phone.
I will not be a tool of society</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190314</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258816620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an Nokia N95 with a 5mp camera and Zeiss optics. It take pretty nice pics, especially since the phone is a few years old.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an Nokia N95 with a 5mp camera and Zeiss optics .
It take pretty nice pics , especially since the phone is a few years old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an Nokia N95 with a 5mp camera and Zeiss optics.
It take pretty nice pics, especially since the phone is a few years old.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189354</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189406</id>
	<title>#11  --Free Thought.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258809480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>-Not that we can't benefit from free thinkers.  We'll just dramatically reduce the number of them available for all the important things our race needs to accomplish.  And, I suppose, zombies need free thinkers to manipulate them, (since they're not much good for anything else), so Free Thought is not entirely redundant.  But among cell phone users, it's pretty much a dead issue.</p><p>Oh, and if through your muddled thinking, you believe you are taking offense to this, don't worry.  That's just the ego programming kicking in.  Don't worry about it.  You can't do anything about it anyway, except allow it to direct all of your behavior 24/7.</p><p>It's amazingly easy to manipulate the perpetually ignorant and dazed.  Good thing I'm not evil.  Too bad your masters are.</p><p>-FL</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>-Not that we ca n't benefit from free thinkers .
We 'll just dramatically reduce the number of them available for all the important things our race needs to accomplish .
And , I suppose , zombies need free thinkers to manipulate them , ( since they 're not much good for anything else ) , so Free Thought is not entirely redundant .
But among cell phone users , it 's pretty much a dead issue.Oh , and if through your muddled thinking , you believe you are taking offense to this , do n't worry .
That 's just the ego programming kicking in .
Do n't worry about it .
You ca n't do anything about it anyway , except allow it to direct all of your behavior 24/7.It 's amazingly easy to manipulate the perpetually ignorant and dazed .
Good thing I 'm not evil .
Too bad your masters are.-FL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>-Not that we can't benefit from free thinkers.
We'll just dramatically reduce the number of them available for all the important things our race needs to accomplish.
And, I suppose, zombies need free thinkers to manipulate them, (since they're not much good for anything else), so Free Thought is not entirely redundant.
But among cell phone users, it's pretty much a dead issue.Oh, and if through your muddled thinking, you believe you are taking offense to this, don't worry.
That's just the ego programming kicking in.
Don't worry about it.
You can't do anything about it anyway, except allow it to direct all of your behavior 24/7.It's amazingly easy to manipulate the perpetually ignorant and dazed.
Good thing I'm not evil.
Too bad your masters are.-FL</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191590</id>
	<title>The only thing it obsoleted:</title>
	<author>keiofh</author>
	<datestamp>1258833300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Was payphones, i can think of plenty of reasons to have separate versions of each one.

Point and shoots still run circles around anything a cellphone can do. It's still a question of lens size/image sensor.

The big thing with these all-in-one phones, is that when your cellphone breaks or encounters a problem, everything breaks. That and when better components come out (mp3s, cameras) happen, you don't need to worry about upgrading everything or being left behind.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Was payphones , i can think of plenty of reasons to have separate versions of each one .
Point and shoots still run circles around anything a cellphone can do .
It 's still a question of lens size/image sensor .
The big thing with these all-in-one phones , is that when your cellphone breaks or encounters a problem , everything breaks .
That and when better components come out ( mp3s , cameras ) happen , you do n't need to worry about upgrading everything or being left behind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Was payphones, i can think of plenty of reasons to have separate versions of each one.
Point and shoots still run circles around anything a cellphone can do.
It's still a question of lens size/image sensor.
The big thing with these all-in-one phones, is that when your cellphone breaks or encounters a problem, everything breaks.
That and when better components come out (mp3s, cameras) happen, you don't need to worry about upgrading everything or being left behind.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190054</id>
	<title>I own the largest wiss army knife they sell</title>
	<author>Seraphim\_72</author>
	<datestamp>1258814520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>...and I still own pliers, files, screwdrivers, a corkscrew, etc., etc. The second part of the saying is "Master of None"</htmltext>
<tokenext>...and I still own pliers , files , screwdrivers , a corkscrew , etc. , etc .
The second part of the saying is " Master of None "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and I still own pliers, files, screwdrivers, a corkscrew, etc., etc.
The second part of the saying is "Master of None"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189500</id>
	<title>Same Old Song, A Jack of all Trades</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258809960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You keep hearing about the things that phones are going to replace and, at least for me, it's never been true.</p><p>I like having a Nintendo DS.  The iPhone has not provided a game with the depth of most AAA DS titles.  It's lack of buttons is a serious problem with gaming.</p><p>The camera isn't as good as any half way decent point and shoot.  I haven't gotten a chance to play with any GPS software for any smart phone, but I hear there are limitations (including the need for cell service) that stand alone GPSes don't have.</p><p>Even the music functions of an iPhone aren't as good as a regular iPod or (gasp, because I love Apple gear) a Zune.</p><p>And yeah, you can use it as a watch, but any fashionable man knows that a watch is how a guy shows off.  It's the only acceptable piece of jewelry for the well dressed man.</p><p>Even today's best smart phones are just communications devices with varying degrees of success.  Occasionally a smart phone is "good enough" in a pinch; photographers like to say the best camera is the one you have with you, which certainly applies to smart phones.  But if I know I want to play games or take pictures, I take my DS or my camera, or whatever.  Phones haven't and won't - because each thing needs its own UI and software guidelines, no device is going to be able to do it all well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You keep hearing about the things that phones are going to replace and , at least for me , it 's never been true.I like having a Nintendo DS .
The iPhone has not provided a game with the depth of most AAA DS titles .
It 's lack of buttons is a serious problem with gaming.The camera is n't as good as any half way decent point and shoot .
I have n't gotten a chance to play with any GPS software for any smart phone , but I hear there are limitations ( including the need for cell service ) that stand alone GPSes do n't have.Even the music functions of an iPhone are n't as good as a regular iPod or ( gasp , because I love Apple gear ) a Zune.And yeah , you can use it as a watch , but any fashionable man knows that a watch is how a guy shows off .
It 's the only acceptable piece of jewelry for the well dressed man.Even today 's best smart phones are just communications devices with varying degrees of success .
Occasionally a smart phone is " good enough " in a pinch ; photographers like to say the best camera is the one you have with you , which certainly applies to smart phones .
But if I know I want to play games or take pictures , I take my DS or my camera , or whatever .
Phones have n't and wo n't - because each thing needs its own UI and software guidelines , no device is going to be able to do it all well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You keep hearing about the things that phones are going to replace and, at least for me, it's never been true.I like having a Nintendo DS.
The iPhone has not provided a game with the depth of most AAA DS titles.
It's lack of buttons is a serious problem with gaming.The camera isn't as good as any half way decent point and shoot.
I haven't gotten a chance to play with any GPS software for any smart phone, but I hear there are limitations (including the need for cell service) that stand alone GPSes don't have.Even the music functions of an iPhone aren't as good as a regular iPod or (gasp, because I love Apple gear) a Zune.And yeah, you can use it as a watch, but any fashionable man knows that a watch is how a guy shows off.
It's the only acceptable piece of jewelry for the well dressed man.Even today's best smart phones are just communications devices with varying degrees of success.
Occasionally a smart phone is "good enough" in a pinch; photographers like to say the best camera is the one you have with you, which certainly applies to smart phones.
But if I know I want to play games or take pictures, I take my DS or my camera, or whatever.
Phones haven't and won't - because each thing needs its own UI and software guidelines, no device is going to be able to do it all well.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191430</id>
	<title>Wait</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258831080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...ten things mobile phones will make obsolete [...] See also Isaac Asimov's The Feeling of Power.</p></div><p>An article about gadgets obsoleting other gadgets is making you think of *that* Asimov story? Honestly? My luddite grandma likes technology more than you guys do.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...ten things mobile phones will make obsolete [ ... ] See also Isaac Asimov 's The Feeling of Power.An article about gadgets obsoleting other gadgets is making you think of * that * Asimov story ?
Honestly ? My luddite grandma likes technology more than you guys do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...ten things mobile phones will make obsolete [...] See also Isaac Asimov's The Feeling of Power.An article about gadgets obsoleting other gadgets is making you think of *that* Asimov story?
Honestly? My luddite grandma likes technology more than you guys do.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191520</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>MobileTatsu-NJG</author>
	<datestamp>1258832280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I have yet to see a phone that can take anywhere near as good a picture as some of the most basic point and shoot cameras.</p></div><p>A noisy 640 x 480 picture is worth a lot more than a picture that never existed because somebody didn't have their P&amp;S camera with them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have yet to see a phone that can take anywhere near as good a picture as some of the most basic point and shoot cameras.A noisy 640 x 480 picture is worth a lot more than a picture that never existed because somebody did n't have their P&amp;S camera with them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have yet to see a phone that can take anywhere near as good a picture as some of the most basic point and shoot cameras.A noisy 640 x 480 picture is worth a lot more than a picture that never existed because somebody didn't have their P&amp;S camera with them.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191956</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>lobiusmoop</author>
	<datestamp>1258883580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought the reason phone-cameras were so poor was because of the minuscule aperture and lens they generally use which severely restricts the amount of light they can capture, leading to lots of noise, and fuzziness from long exposure requirements.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought the reason phone-cameras were so poor was because of the minuscule aperture and lens they generally use which severely restricts the amount of light they can capture , leading to lots of noise , and fuzziness from long exposure requirements .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought the reason phone-cameras were so poor was because of the minuscule aperture and lens they generally use which severely restricts the amount of light they can capture, leading to lots of noise, and fuzziness from long exposure requirements.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190130</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30194184</id>
	<title>Re:I'll Keep My Wristwatch, Thanks</title>
	<author>Cederic</author>
	<datestamp>1258911480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Clearly you have a job that doesn't have meetings. Sadly I have a job with a strong social dynamic to it, and being able to buy someone coffee without making them wait for me is often the difference between full cooperation and active sabotage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Clearly you have a job that does n't have meetings .
Sadly I have a job with a strong social dynamic to it , and being able to buy someone coffee without making them wait for me is often the difference between full cooperation and active sabotage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clearly you have a job that doesn't have meetings.
Sadly I have a job with a strong social dynamic to it, and being able to buy someone coffee without making them wait for me is often the difference between full cooperation and active sabotage.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190276</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191544</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>skjolber</author>
	<datestamp>1258832520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wait for <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20427346.700-computational-cameras-perfect-your-photos-for-you.html" title="newscientist.com" rel="nofollow">it</a> [newscientist.com]? =)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait for it [ newscientist.com ] ?
= )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait for it [newscientist.com]?
=)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190130</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189626</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258811040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a losing battle; get over it already.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a losing battle ; get over it already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a losing battle; get over it already.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189356</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30203882</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259001900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...it has already been done: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung\_sch\_w880\_amoled\_12m-review-398.php<br>Sounds like a decent or average point and shoot, with quite a capable phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...it has already been done : http : //www.gsmarena.com/samsung \ _sch \ _w880 \ _amoled \ _12m-review-398.phpSounds like a decent or average point and shoot , with quite a capable phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...it has already been done: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung\_sch\_w880\_amoled\_12m-review-398.phpSounds like a decent or average point and shoot, with quite a capable phone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190130</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190518</id>
	<title>Re:Many features that I don't even want.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258818900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>When I got my phone, I bought it because it was the cheapest phone that had the ability to see who's calling without having to answer. It so happens to have come with a camera...</p></div><p>How long ago was that? This summer I bought a Nokia stick for $20. Caller ID / call screening: Yes. Camera: No.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I got my phone , I bought it because it was the cheapest phone that had the ability to see who 's calling without having to answer .
It so happens to have come with a camera...How long ago was that ?
This summer I bought a Nokia stick for $ 20 .
Caller ID / call screening : Yes .
Camera : No .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I got my phone, I bought it because it was the cheapest phone that had the ability to see who's calling without having to answer.
It so happens to have come with a camera...How long ago was that?
This summer I bought a Nokia stick for $20.
Caller ID / call screening: Yes.
Camera: No.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189502</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192274</id>
	<title>Re:No phone booths?</title>
	<author>YourExperiment</author>
	<datestamp>1258889880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't worry, there's an app for that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't worry , there 's an app for that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't worry, there's an app for that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189408</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30193044</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1258902720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Fortunately, the <b>educated</b> still refer to it as petitio principii</p></div><p>For someone as educated as yourself, you seem to have a lot of trouble spelling "arrogant"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fortunately , the educated still refer to it as petitio principiiFor someone as educated as yourself , you seem to have a lot of trouble spelling " arrogant " ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fortunately, the educated still refer to it as petitio principiiFor someone as educated as yourself, you seem to have a lot of trouble spelling "arrogant" ;-)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191294</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30193238</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>Jerry Smith</author>
	<datestamp>1258904400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Can you show me any non-wiki dictionary with that definition? <i>Anywhere?</i> To me it's sort of like folks that regularly use the word 'average' when they mean 'median'. I imagine that when enough people decide they are synonymous, it's will simply become a fact; or at least that's how most wikis seem to work.</p></div><p>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/beg</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you show me any non-wiki dictionary with that definition ?
Anywhere ? To me it 's sort of like folks that regularly use the word 'average ' when they mean 'median' .
I imagine that when enough people decide they are synonymous , it 's will simply become a fact ; or at least that 's how most wikis seem to work.http : //www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/beg</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you show me any non-wiki dictionary with that definition?
Anywhere? To me it's sort of like folks that regularly use the word 'average' when they mean 'median'.
I imagine that when enough people decide they are synonymous, it's will simply become a fact; or at least that's how most wikis seem to work.http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/beg
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30193698</id>
	<title>Re:#11 --Free Thought.</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1258907940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You ever hear the one about showing instead of telling?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You ever hear the one about showing instead of telling ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You ever hear the one about showing instead of telling?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189406</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190506</id>
	<title>Re:#11 --Free Thought.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258818780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You:  http://www.xkcd.com/610/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You : http : //www.xkcd.com/610/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You:  http://www.xkcd.com/610/</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189406</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191826</id>
	<title>Re:No phone booths?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258923540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>in a blue police box</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>in a blue police box</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in a blue police box</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189408</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189544</id>
	<title>Simple List</title>
	<author>bongey</author>
	<datestamp>1258810380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Top Ten :
Phone boxes
Wristwatches
Bedside alarm
MP3 players
Landline home phones
Compact digital cameras
Netbooks
Handheld games consoles
Paper
Thinking- (joke)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Top Ten : Phone boxes Wristwatches Bedside alarm MP3 players Landline home phones Compact digital cameras Netbooks Handheld games consoles Paper Thinking- ( joke )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Top Ten :
Phone boxes
Wristwatches
Bedside alarm
MP3 players
Landline home phones
Compact digital cameras
Netbooks
Handheld games consoles
Paper
Thinking- (joke)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190108</id>
	<title>Article is a fluff piece.</title>
	<author>slasho81</author>
	<datestamp>1258814940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>TFA listed only the obvious stuff.
<br> <br>
What about: Cash, credit cards, tickets, ID cards, wallets, keys, remote controls, maps, compasses, GPS devices, eBook readers, books, newspapers, flashlights, USB drives and other portable media, calculators, dictionaries, calenders, scanners of all kinds, road signs, ballot-boxes, stereo systems, video cameras, microphones, VCR/DVD players, TiVos, computer mice, laser pointers, thermometers, the box of your desktop computer, physical pictures, receipts, coupons, fliers, brochures, menus, projectors, etc. <br> <br>And this is only the technologically easy stuff. Some of it already obsolete in places like Japan.</htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA listed only the obvious stuff .
What about : Cash , credit cards , tickets , ID cards , wallets , keys , remote controls , maps , compasses , GPS devices , eBook readers , books , newspapers , flashlights , USB drives and other portable media , calculators , dictionaries , calenders , scanners of all kinds , road signs , ballot-boxes , stereo systems , video cameras , microphones , VCR/DVD players , TiVos , computer mice , laser pointers , thermometers , the box of your desktop computer , physical pictures , receipts , coupons , fliers , brochures , menus , projectors , etc .
And this is only the technologically easy stuff .
Some of it already obsolete in places like Japan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA listed only the obvious stuff.
What about: Cash, credit cards, tickets, ID cards, wallets, keys, remote controls, maps, compasses, GPS devices, eBook readers, books, newspapers, flashlights, USB drives and other portable media, calculators, dictionaries, calenders, scanners of all kinds, road signs, ballot-boxes, stereo systems, video cameras, microphones, VCR/DVD players, TiVos, computer mice, laser pointers, thermometers, the box of your desktop computer, physical pictures, receipts, coupons, fliers, brochures, menus, projectors, etc.
And this is only the technologically easy stuff.
Some of it already obsolete in places like Japan.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191578</id>
	<title>Ten More</title>
	<author>qeorqe</author>
	<datestamp>1258833180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>10. car phone<br>9. flashlight (torch)<br>8. sun dial<br>7. singing telegram<br>6. level<br>5. vibrator<br>4. paper weight<br>3. slide rule<br>2. hammer<br>1. rock</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>10. car phone9 .
flashlight ( torch ) 8. sun dial7 .
singing telegram6 .
level5. vibrator4 .
paper weight3 .
slide rule2 .
hammer1. rock</tokentext>
<sentencetext>10. car phone9.
flashlight (torch)8. sun dial7.
singing telegram6.
level5. vibrator4.
paper weight3.
slide rule2.
hammer1. rock</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191630</id>
	<title>Cell phones will also replace</title>
	<author>WizzardX</author>
	<datestamp>1258920300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Pepper sprays and other crime deterrents.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7x1aic74Mg" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7x1aic74Mg</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pepper sprays and other crime deterrents .
http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = t7x1aic74Mg [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pepper sprays and other crime deterrents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7x1aic74Mg [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191836</id>
	<title>Mobile Gaming</title>
	<author>Toonol</author>
	<datestamp>1258880580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm also skeptical of the idea that phones will put an end to independent gaming devices.  For one thing, there has yet to be a phone that is at all adequate for running games on; I know there are games for the iPhone, but the vast majority are hugely hampered by the interface.  In gaming, the control interface (buttons, joysticks) are as important as the display.  Gamers don't WANT their device any smaller than a DS or PSP; some want it larger.<br> <br>

In addition, I might let my eight year old son have a DS, but no way in hell is he getting a cellphone.<br> <br>

I think it might be possible that some future iteration of the DS, PSP, or other console incorporates some VOIP into it's internet link; or perhaps even include full cellular technology.  But at that point, is the cell phone replacing the gaming device, or the gaming device replacing the cellphone?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm also skeptical of the idea that phones will put an end to independent gaming devices .
For one thing , there has yet to be a phone that is at all adequate for running games on ; I know there are games for the iPhone , but the vast majority are hugely hampered by the interface .
In gaming , the control interface ( buttons , joysticks ) are as important as the display .
Gamers do n't WANT their device any smaller than a DS or PSP ; some want it larger .
In addition , I might let my eight year old son have a DS , but no way in hell is he getting a cellphone .
I think it might be possible that some future iteration of the DS , PSP , or other console incorporates some VOIP into it 's internet link ; or perhaps even include full cellular technology .
But at that point , is the cell phone replacing the gaming device , or the gaming device replacing the cellphone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm also skeptical of the idea that phones will put an end to independent gaming devices.
For one thing, there has yet to be a phone that is at all adequate for running games on; I know there are games for the iPhone, but the vast majority are hugely hampered by the interface.
In gaming, the control interface (buttons, joysticks) are as important as the display.
Gamers don't WANT their device any smaller than a DS or PSP; some want it larger.
In addition, I might let my eight year old son have a DS, but no way in hell is he getting a cellphone.
I think it might be possible that some future iteration of the DS, PSP, or other console incorporates some VOIP into it's internet link; or perhaps even include full cellular technology.
But at that point, is the cell phone replacing the gaming device, or the gaming device replacing the cellphone?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189368</id>
	<title>I'll Keep My Wristwatch, Thanks</title>
	<author>R3d M3rcury</author>
	<datestamp>1258809180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One advantage to my wristwatch is that it's conveniently located on my wrist, unlike a cellphone which lives in a pocket or holster.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One advantage to my wristwatch is that it 's conveniently located on my wrist , unlike a cellphone which lives in a pocket or holster .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One advantage to my wristwatch is that it's conveniently located on my wrist, unlike a cellphone which lives in a pocket or holster.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30195160</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>badzilla</author>
	<datestamp>1258918680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The 5 megapixel camera in my Nokia takes great photos. It's always right there in my pocket so I never miss a shot - what were they thinking when they forgot to implement that feature on my SLR!</p><p>Compared to an SLR or even compact camera the technical quality of the image isn't all that but they still look fine on Facebook - and I'm guessing that's what counts most for Joe Snapper these days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The 5 megapixel camera in my Nokia takes great photos .
It 's always right there in my pocket so I never miss a shot - what were they thinking when they forgot to implement that feature on my SLR ! Compared to an SLR or even compact camera the technical quality of the image is n't all that but they still look fine on Facebook - and I 'm guessing that 's what counts most for Joe Snapper these days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The 5 megapixel camera in my Nokia takes great photos.
It's always right there in my pocket so I never miss a shot - what were they thinking when they forgot to implement that feature on my SLR!Compared to an SLR or even compact camera the technical quality of the image isn't all that but they still look fine on Facebook - and I'm guessing that's what counts most for Joe Snapper these days.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190130</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30193430</id>
	<title>Re:I found an 11th thing...</title>
	<author>jimicus</author>
	<datestamp>1258906020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're wasting your time.</p><p>Any living language changes over time;  at one time many English towns had roads called "Gropecunte Lane" and a former president of the US made a faux pas by translating the speech he was going to make to the French himself.  <i>Baiser</i> had acquired different connotations since he was in school; his plane landed and he informed the eagerly awaiting French that he wanted to hump them</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're wasting your time.Any living language changes over time ; at one time many English towns had roads called " Gropecunte Lane " and a former president of the US made a faux pas by translating the speech he was going to make to the French himself .
Baiser had acquired different connotations since he was in school ; his plane landed and he informed the eagerly awaiting French that he wanted to hump them</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're wasting your time.Any living language changes over time;  at one time many English towns had roads called "Gropecunte Lane" and a former president of the US made a faux pas by translating the speech he was going to make to the French himself.
Baiser had acquired different connotations since he was in school; his plane landed and he informed the eagerly awaiting French that he wanted to hump them</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189574</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30193510</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>GravityStar</author>
	<datestamp>1258906560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The meaning is changing. Deal with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The meaning is changing .
Deal with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The meaning is changing.
Deal with it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189356</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189354</id>
	<title>No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258809120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have yet to see a phone that can take anywhere near as good a picture as some of the most basic point and shoot cameras.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have yet to see a phone that can take anywhere near as good a picture as some of the most basic point and shoot cameras .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have yet to see a phone that can take anywhere near as good a picture as some of the most basic point and shoot cameras.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30196098</id>
	<title>Payphones</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258882620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sometimes I'm in an environment where camera phones aren't allowed so the available payphones are handy. Also, when I was poor, I couldn't afford a cell phone, they're still much more expensive than land lines. I bet there are still poor people out there in that situation. I know I used payphones all the time.</p><p>I would still use them just to avoid having phone records of the call... for no particular reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sometimes I 'm in an environment where camera phones are n't allowed so the available payphones are handy .
Also , when I was poor , I could n't afford a cell phone , they 're still much more expensive than land lines .
I bet there are still poor people out there in that situation .
I know I used payphones all the time.I would still use them just to avoid having phone records of the call... for no particular reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sometimes I'm in an environment where camera phones aren't allowed so the available payphones are handy.
Also, when I was poor, I couldn't afford a cell phone, they're still much more expensive than land lines.
I bet there are still poor people out there in that situation.
I know I used payphones all the time.I would still use them just to avoid having phone records of the call... for no particular reason.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190198</id>
	<title>Re:A load of BS</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1258815660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think you realize how much paper WOULD be needed today had we not created computers. Try to fathom that.<br> <br>The gaming one is BS<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... we still have game systems even with computers that are pretty much the exact same thing.<br> <br>Laptops will likely kill netbooks as battery life improves.... there will be a variety of sizes that's all.<br> <br>Clearly obsolete is the wrong word but lots of these things will see reductions.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think you realize how much paper WOULD be needed today had we not created computers .
Try to fathom that .
The gaming one is BS ... we still have game systems even with computers that are pretty much the exact same thing .
Laptops will likely kill netbooks as battery life improves.... there will be a variety of sizes that 's all .
Clearly obsolete is the wrong word but lots of these things will see reductions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think you realize how much paper WOULD be needed today had we not created computers.
Try to fathom that.
The gaming one is BS ... we still have game systems even with computers that are pretty much the exact same thing.
Laptops will likely kill netbooks as battery life improves.... there will be a variety of sizes that's all.
Clearly obsolete is the wrong word but lots of these things will see reductions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190616</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>iamhassi</author>
	<datestamp>1258820160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"I have yet to see a phone that can take anywhere near as good a picture as some of the most basic point and shoot cameras."</i>
<br> <br>
Sure, today.  You could have said the same of digital cameras 15 yrs ago, yet today <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2009-06-22-kodachrome\_N.htm" title="usatoday.com">kodak has discontinued production of their once popular kodachrome film</a> [usatoday.com] "because of declining customer demand in an increasingly digital age."
<br> <br>
Digital cameras are becoming slimmer and smaller, it's only a matter of time before the same camera you buy today will fit entirely into the cellphone you buy 5 years from now.  Just look how far cellphones have come in just ten years, from being bulky with b&amp;w screens and a 1 day battery life to giant 4" LCDs and far thinner than a deck of cards.
<br> <br>
I do think they missed a few things in the article.
<br> <br>
For one, mp3 players won't be replaced.  The ability to carry a small, cheap mp3 player with a 20+ battery life around is like the argument of the wrist watch being replaced, it's nice to have a practically disposable music player with a long battery life.
<br> <br>
Netbooks also aren't going anywhere.  The ability to run the same software on your (almost) pocketable netbook as you do on your desktop is an infinitely useful ability.  So far no smartphone as even come close, even the amazing iPhone doesn't have Firefox, IE, Chrome or Opera browsers.  Only way the Netbook would vanish is if you could emulate Windows XP on your smartphone.
<br> <br>
However I'm surprised they didn't mention video cameras.  The <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-I--4JrERI" title="youtube.com">new nano takes fantastic video</a> [youtube.com] and it's only a $150 device, I'm sure the new iPhone will follow suit.  Can you imagine the video capabilities in phones 5-10 yrs from now?  While I'm sure there will still be camcorders for sale I doubt many people will continue to spend hundreds on a separate camcorder when the cellphone does 99\% of what's needed and the price is subsidized by the carriers.  Of course there will always be professional videographers who will be needed for weddings, but the average family vacation will be filmed on your 2020 smartphone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I have yet to see a phone that can take anywhere near as good a picture as some of the most basic point and shoot cameras .
" Sure , today .
You could have said the same of digital cameras 15 yrs ago , yet today kodak has discontinued production of their once popular kodachrome film [ usatoday.com ] " because of declining customer demand in an increasingly digital age .
" Digital cameras are becoming slimmer and smaller , it 's only a matter of time before the same camera you buy today will fit entirely into the cellphone you buy 5 years from now .
Just look how far cellphones have come in just ten years , from being bulky with b&amp;w screens and a 1 day battery life to giant 4 " LCDs and far thinner than a deck of cards .
I do think they missed a few things in the article .
For one , mp3 players wo n't be replaced .
The ability to carry a small , cheap mp3 player with a 20 + battery life around is like the argument of the wrist watch being replaced , it 's nice to have a practically disposable music player with a long battery life .
Netbooks also are n't going anywhere .
The ability to run the same software on your ( almost ) pocketable netbook as you do on your desktop is an infinitely useful ability .
So far no smartphone as even come close , even the amazing iPhone does n't have Firefox , IE , Chrome or Opera browsers .
Only way the Netbook would vanish is if you could emulate Windows XP on your smartphone .
However I 'm surprised they did n't mention video cameras .
The new nano takes fantastic video [ youtube.com ] and it 's only a $ 150 device , I 'm sure the new iPhone will follow suit .
Can you imagine the video capabilities in phones 5-10 yrs from now ?
While I 'm sure there will still be camcorders for sale I doubt many people will continue to spend hundreds on a separate camcorder when the cellphone does 99 \ % of what 's needed and the price is subsidized by the carriers .
Of course there will always be professional videographers who will be needed for weddings , but the average family vacation will be filmed on your 2020 smartphone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I have yet to see a phone that can take anywhere near as good a picture as some of the most basic point and shoot cameras.
"
 
Sure, today.
You could have said the same of digital cameras 15 yrs ago, yet today kodak has discontinued production of their once popular kodachrome film [usatoday.com] "because of declining customer demand in an increasingly digital age.
"
 
Digital cameras are becoming slimmer and smaller, it's only a matter of time before the same camera you buy today will fit entirely into the cellphone you buy 5 years from now.
Just look how far cellphones have come in just ten years, from being bulky with b&amp;w screens and a 1 day battery life to giant 4" LCDs and far thinner than a deck of cards.
I do think they missed a few things in the article.
For one, mp3 players won't be replaced.
The ability to carry a small, cheap mp3 player with a 20+ battery life around is like the argument of the wrist watch being replaced, it's nice to have a practically disposable music player with a long battery life.
Netbooks also aren't going anywhere.
The ability to run the same software on your (almost) pocketable netbook as you do on your desktop is an infinitely useful ability.
So far no smartphone as even come close, even the amazing iPhone doesn't have Firefox, IE, Chrome or Opera browsers.
Only way the Netbook would vanish is if you could emulate Windows XP on your smartphone.
However I'm surprised they didn't mention video cameras.
The new nano takes fantastic video [youtube.com] and it's only a $150 device, I'm sure the new iPhone will follow suit.
Can you imagine the video capabilities in phones 5-10 yrs from now?
While I'm sure there will still be camcorders for sale I doubt many people will continue to spend hundreds on a separate camcorder when the cellphone does 99\% of what's needed and the price is subsidized by the carriers.
Of course there will always be professional videographers who will be needed for weddings, but the average family vacation will be filmed on your 2020 smartphone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30193064</id>
	<title>Digital Convergence</title>
	<author>Martin Spamer</author>
	<datestamp>1258902900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not an issue of one device, the mobile phone, making all the others obsolete, it's digital convergence.  All mobile electronic devices are converging.  Palm started off with PDAs, Apple started off as MP3 players, others as GPS.  However, of those [i]devices[/i] some won't be eliminated the wrist watch as jewellery, the hardline.  The phone box is the same, a convergence of emergency phone, broadband hard line, WiFi access point.</p><p>The same thing is happening in the home, the VCR, CD player, DVD player, DVB-T terrestrial receiver, DVB-S satellite receiver, the PVR, web-on-TV, internet television, streaming media.  All separates a couple of years ago, increasing evidence of digital convergence.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not an issue of one device , the mobile phone , making all the others obsolete , it 's digital convergence .
All mobile electronic devices are converging .
Palm started off with PDAs , Apple started off as MP3 players , others as GPS .
However , of those [ i ] devices [ /i ] some wo n't be eliminated the wrist watch as jewellery , the hardline .
The phone box is the same , a convergence of emergency phone , broadband hard line , WiFi access point.The same thing is happening in the home , the VCR , CD player , DVD player , DVB-T terrestrial receiver , DVB-S satellite receiver , the PVR , web-on-TV , internet television , streaming media .
All separates a couple of years ago , increasing evidence of digital convergence .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not an issue of one device, the mobile phone, making all the others obsolete, it's digital convergence.
All mobile electronic devices are converging.
Palm started off with PDAs, Apple started off as MP3 players, others as GPS.
However, of those [i]devices[/i] some won't be eliminated the wrist watch as jewellery, the hardline.
The phone box is the same, a convergence of emergency phone, broadband hard line, WiFi access point.The same thing is happening in the home, the VCR, CD player, DVD player, DVB-T terrestrial receiver, DVB-S satellite receiver, the PVR, web-on-TV, internet television, streaming media.
All separates a couple of years ago, increasing evidence of digital convergence.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30211028</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>Elky Elk</author>
	<datestamp>1259055060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the terminally single still refer to it that way too.</p><p>I kid, I kid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the terminally single still refer to it that way too.I kid , I kid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the terminally single still refer to it that way too.I kid, I kid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30195128</id>
	<title>Re:The previous commentors are idiots</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1258918440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>However, most people focus only on the functions-to-number ratio (how many functions per device I get). The probem with that is that the functions-to-price ratio is ignored. While a cutting edge smartphone will do a lot of things for me, it will also carry a hideous price tag. One could argue that equivalents of today's 700 USD phone will be available for 70 USD in ten years but I doubt that - Bluetooth is a good example of how technology is used to enable price discrimination. A BT chipset and the appropriate licensing makes a phone only very slightly more expensive to manufacture, yet it's very rarely found in phones for less than 100 USD.<br>
<br>
It's going to be like that with smartphones. In 10 years, a smartphone will still be five times as expensive as an average mobile phone. Not because it's so expensive to manufacture but because they can get away with it. And that means it's most likely still more expensive than just buying specialist devices for everything - especially if it's coupled to some kind of mandatory plan.<br>
<br>
This might not mean much with people who don't have to worry about spending 500+ USD on a device but there are plenty of people who can't afford that luxury. If one's expendable income runs to 100 USD/month one simply can't buy a smartphone and thus won't replace much cheaper specialist devices with it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>However , most people focus only on the functions-to-number ratio ( how many functions per device I get ) .
The probem with that is that the functions-to-price ratio is ignored .
While a cutting edge smartphone will do a lot of things for me , it will also carry a hideous price tag .
One could argue that equivalents of today 's 700 USD phone will be available for 70 USD in ten years but I doubt that - Bluetooth is a good example of how technology is used to enable price discrimination .
A BT chipset and the appropriate licensing makes a phone only very slightly more expensive to manufacture , yet it 's very rarely found in phones for less than 100 USD .
It 's going to be like that with smartphones .
In 10 years , a smartphone will still be five times as expensive as an average mobile phone .
Not because it 's so expensive to manufacture but because they can get away with it .
And that means it 's most likely still more expensive than just buying specialist devices for everything - especially if it 's coupled to some kind of mandatory plan .
This might not mean much with people who do n't have to worry about spending 500 + USD on a device but there are plenty of people who ca n't afford that luxury .
If one 's expendable income runs to 100 USD/month one simply ca n't buy a smartphone and thus wo n't replace much cheaper specialist devices with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>However, most people focus only on the functions-to-number ratio (how many functions per device I get).
The probem with that is that the functions-to-price ratio is ignored.
While a cutting edge smartphone will do a lot of things for me, it will also carry a hideous price tag.
One could argue that equivalents of today's 700 USD phone will be available for 70 USD in ten years but I doubt that - Bluetooth is a good example of how technology is used to enable price discrimination.
A BT chipset and the appropriate licensing makes a phone only very slightly more expensive to manufacture, yet it's very rarely found in phones for less than 100 USD.
It's going to be like that with smartphones.
In 10 years, a smartphone will still be five times as expensive as an average mobile phone.
Not because it's so expensive to manufacture but because they can get away with it.
And that means it's most likely still more expensive than just buying specialist devices for everything - especially if it's coupled to some kind of mandatory plan.
This might not mean much with people who don't have to worry about spending 500+ USD on a device but there are plenty of people who can't afford that luxury.
If one's expendable income runs to 100 USD/month one simply can't buy a smartphone and thus won't replace much cheaper specialist devices with it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30193310</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>MightyYar</author>
	<datestamp>1258905120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You should tell your Aspergers side to feel privileged as you actually get to witness language change real-time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You should tell your Aspergers side to feel privileged as you actually get to witness language change real-time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should tell your Aspergers side to feel privileged as you actually get to witness language change real-time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192132</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>wisty</author>
	<datestamp>1258887480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FWIW, I usually set my camera to about 3 MP. Any less, and it craps itself in low light conditions.</p><p>Unless you want to print out high-quality photos, current camera (and phone) resolutions are like using the CERN LHC to microwave an egg.</p><p>Quality (of the lenses, the accuracy of the pixel cells, low light / high speed behavior, and so on) is still crap on regular cameras. It's worthless on phones.</p><p>And when we finally have high-quality cameras that can be shrunk onto phones, everyone will want video, and phones will still be crap.</p><p>There's still a long way for cameras to develop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FWIW , I usually set my camera to about 3 MP .
Any less , and it craps itself in low light conditions.Unless you want to print out high-quality photos , current camera ( and phone ) resolutions are like using the CERN LHC to microwave an egg.Quality ( of the lenses , the accuracy of the pixel cells , low light / high speed behavior , and so on ) is still crap on regular cameras .
It 's worthless on phones.And when we finally have high-quality cameras that can be shrunk onto phones , everyone will want video , and phones will still be crap.There 's still a long way for cameras to develop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FWIW, I usually set my camera to about 3 MP.
Any less, and it craps itself in low light conditions.Unless you want to print out high-quality photos, current camera (and phone) resolutions are like using the CERN LHC to microwave an egg.Quality (of the lenses, the accuracy of the pixel cells, low light / high speed behavior, and so on) is still crap on regular cameras.
It's worthless on phones.And when we finally have high-quality cameras that can be shrunk onto phones, everyone will want video, and phones will still be crap.There's still a long way for cameras to develop.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191002</id>
	<title>Re:A load of BS</title>
	<author>drsquare</author>
	<datestamp>1258825680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Gaming on a phone is awful. Unless that is properly addressed, then the likes of the Nintendo DS won't have to worry and I'm sure Nintendo isn't seeing how many DS units they're selling.</p></div></blockquote><p>That's what people used to say about mp3 players. Apple made the iphone because they saw the death of the dedicated player.</p><p>The DS will be the last generation of dedicated handhelds, if Nintendo want to stay in the business they'll either release their own phone, or start releasing games for phones.</p><p>Technology gets smaller and smaller, with each generation there's less and less need for carrying around individual devices. Watches exist due to tradition and nothing else.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Gaming on a phone is awful .
Unless that is properly addressed , then the likes of the Nintendo DS wo n't have to worry and I 'm sure Nintendo is n't seeing how many DS units they 're selling.That 's what people used to say about mp3 players .
Apple made the iphone because they saw the death of the dedicated player.The DS will be the last generation of dedicated handhelds , if Nintendo want to stay in the business they 'll either release their own phone , or start releasing games for phones.Technology gets smaller and smaller , with each generation there 's less and less need for carrying around individual devices .
Watches exist due to tradition and nothing else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gaming on a phone is awful.
Unless that is properly addressed, then the likes of the Nintendo DS won't have to worry and I'm sure Nintendo isn't seeing how many DS units they're selling.That's what people used to say about mp3 players.
Apple made the iphone because they saw the death of the dedicated player.The DS will be the last generation of dedicated handhelds, if Nintendo want to stay in the business they'll either release their own phone, or start releasing games for phones.Technology gets smaller and smaller, with each generation there's less and less need for carrying around individual devices.
Watches exist due to tradition and nothing else.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191338</id>
	<title>Number 11</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1258830060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Staying in your own $\%&amp;$^\%(* lane while driving.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Staying in your own $ \ % &amp; $ ^ \ % ( * lane while driving .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Staying in your own $\%&amp;$^\%(* lane while driving.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189440</id>
	<title>Re:yep...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258809600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's pretty obtuse to think that wristwatches are going to become obsolete.  Hate to break it to you, but no.  Wristwatches are far more than just a device to tell time.  They're a symbol of status and of self-expression.  Don't think so?  Wristwatch builders keep pushing the envelope of what is possible with micro-mechanics, and that is what makes them attractive, and special to collectors.</p><p>You think your iPhone is going to get you laid... or any serious street cred? It's within reach of even below-average citizens, so it doesn't get you any status points.  No, there's just something about a fine Rolex or Omega Speedmaster on your wrist. A feat of mechanical engineering and precision manufacturing that NO iPhone can *EVER* replace.</p><p>Just try pawning an iPhone and see how much you get.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's pretty obtuse to think that wristwatches are going to become obsolete .
Hate to break it to you , but no .
Wristwatches are far more than just a device to tell time .
They 're a symbol of status and of self-expression .
Do n't think so ?
Wristwatch builders keep pushing the envelope of what is possible with micro-mechanics , and that is what makes them attractive , and special to collectors.You think your iPhone is going to get you laid... or any serious street cred ?
It 's within reach of even below-average citizens , so it does n't get you any status points .
No , there 's just something about a fine Rolex or Omega Speedmaster on your wrist .
A feat of mechanical engineering and precision manufacturing that NO iPhone can * EVER * replace.Just try pawning an iPhone and see how much you get .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's pretty obtuse to think that wristwatches are going to become obsolete.
Hate to break it to you, but no.
Wristwatches are far more than just a device to tell time.
They're a symbol of status and of self-expression.
Don't think so?
Wristwatch builders keep pushing the envelope of what is possible with micro-mechanics, and that is what makes them attractive, and special to collectors.You think your iPhone is going to get you laid... or any serious street cred?
It's within reach of even below-average citizens, so it doesn't get you any status points.
No, there's just something about a fine Rolex or Omega Speedmaster on your wrist.
A feat of mechanical engineering and precision manufacturing that NO iPhone can *EVER* replace.Just try pawning an iPhone and see how much you get.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30204584</id>
	<title>Re:Quality does matter</title>
	<author>Cro Magnon</author>
	<datestamp>1259005740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My iPhone camera sux by MY standards, and I'm no photographer.  I use it when I want to take pictures on the spur of the moment because I don't carry a real camera around with me.  But if I was PLANNING to take pictures, I'd rather do it with a real camera, not the POS built into my phone.</p><p>My phone might do a lot of things decently, but it doesn't do any of them well enough to "obsolete" special purpose equipment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My iPhone camera sux by MY standards , and I 'm no photographer .
I use it when I want to take pictures on the spur of the moment because I do n't carry a real camera around with me .
But if I was PLANNING to take pictures , I 'd rather do it with a real camera , not the POS built into my phone.My phone might do a lot of things decently , but it does n't do any of them well enough to " obsolete " special purpose equipment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My iPhone camera sux by MY standards, and I'm no photographer.
I use it when I want to take pictures on the spur of the moment because I don't carry a real camera around with me.
But if I was PLANNING to take pictures, I'd rather do it with a real camera, not the POS built into my phone.My phone might do a lot of things decently, but it doesn't do any of them well enough to "obsolete" special purpose equipment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191242</id>
	<title>Re:I found an 11th thing...</title>
	<author>slaingod</author>
	<datestamp>1258828800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are such a fag... and by fag I mean a cigarette.</p><p>Languages and meaning are fluid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are such a fag... and by fag I mean a cigarette.Languages and meaning are fluid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are such a fag... and by fag I mean a cigarette.Languages and meaning are fluid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30195362</id>
	<title>Nope</title>
	<author>ucblockhead</author>
	<datestamp>1258920360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The root problem that will make this prediction fail is that all those things use power.  The more you make that causes the user to use the device constantly, the harder it will be to keep the thing charged up enough to make phone calls.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The root problem that will make this prediction fail is that all those things use power .
The more you make that causes the user to use the device constantly , the harder it will be to keep the thing charged up enough to make phone calls .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The root problem that will make this prediction fail is that all those things use power.
The more you make that causes the user to use the device constantly, the harder it will be to keep the thing charged up enough to make phone calls.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190408</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>Kumiorava</author>
	<datestamp>1258817640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While that is true, most of people start to be satisfied with the quality mobile phones are offering. Few years back regular point and shoot digital cameras didn't have that great picture quality but convenience of "unlimited" film and instant ability to view the result were enough to get people switch from film cameras. I could argue that current level of image quality combined with the fact that the camera is always with me is enough for me to not carry regular point and shoot camera at all.</p><p>I do have a DSLR with proper lenses that I keep up to date and take pictures with regularly, but for normal situation photos mobile phone is enough. Of course I would like my mobile phone to take same quality of images as my DSLR but I don't see that happening ever. Bottom line is that mobile phone camera has made point and shoot camera obsolete for my purposes and I believe I'm not in minority on this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While that is true , most of people start to be satisfied with the quality mobile phones are offering .
Few years back regular point and shoot digital cameras did n't have that great picture quality but convenience of " unlimited " film and instant ability to view the result were enough to get people switch from film cameras .
I could argue that current level of image quality combined with the fact that the camera is always with me is enough for me to not carry regular point and shoot camera at all.I do have a DSLR with proper lenses that I keep up to date and take pictures with regularly , but for normal situation photos mobile phone is enough .
Of course I would like my mobile phone to take same quality of images as my DSLR but I do n't see that happening ever .
Bottom line is that mobile phone camera has made point and shoot camera obsolete for my purposes and I believe I 'm not in minority on this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While that is true, most of people start to be satisfied with the quality mobile phones are offering.
Few years back regular point and shoot digital cameras didn't have that great picture quality but convenience of "unlimited" film and instant ability to view the result were enough to get people switch from film cameras.
I could argue that current level of image quality combined with the fact that the camera is always with me is enough for me to not carry regular point and shoot camera at all.I do have a DSLR with proper lenses that I keep up to date and take pictures with regularly, but for normal situation photos mobile phone is enough.
Of course I would like my mobile phone to take same quality of images as my DSLR but I don't see that happening ever.
Bottom line is that mobile phone camera has made point and shoot camera obsolete for my purposes and I believe I'm not in minority on this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30194028</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>Rexdude</author>
	<datestamp>1258910340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nokia N82. 5 megapixel camera with Xenon flash, which means it takes excellent pictures in low light conditions.In addition to that, autofocus, lightmeter, white balance, ISO settings..all can be customized. (Sadly, it's the first and last Nokia to feature a Xenon flash, even the upcoming uber-device N900 only has dual LED flash). It also has geotagging via GPS.<br><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexdude/4034036472/" title="flickr.com">Here's</a> [flickr.com] an example photo, <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexdude/3058009780/in/set-72157611017000807/" title="flickr.com">and</a> [flickr.com] <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexdude/3150381365/in/set-72157611845561407/" title="flickr.com">a</a> [flickr.com] <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexdude/3057172651/in/set-72157611017000807/http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexdude/3057172651/in/set-72157611017000807/" title="flickr.com">few</a> [flickr.com] <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexdude/3150394755/in/set-72157611845561407/" title="flickr.com">more</a> [flickr.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nokia N82 .
5 megapixel camera with Xenon flash , which means it takes excellent pictures in low light conditions.In addition to that , autofocus , lightmeter , white balance , ISO settings..all can be customized .
( Sadly , it 's the first and last Nokia to feature a Xenon flash , even the upcoming uber-device N900 only has dual LED flash ) .
It also has geotagging via GPS.Here 's [ flickr.com ] an example photo , and [ flickr.com ] a [ flickr.com ] few [ flickr.com ] more [ flickr.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nokia N82.
5 megapixel camera with Xenon flash, which means it takes excellent pictures in low light conditions.In addition to that, autofocus, lightmeter, white balance, ISO settings..all can be customized.
(Sadly, it's the first and last Nokia to feature a Xenon flash, even the upcoming uber-device N900 only has dual LED flash).
It also has geotagging via GPS.Here's [flickr.com] an example photo, and [flickr.com] a [flickr.com] few [flickr.com] more [flickr.com].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191266</id>
	<title>Re:No phone booths?</title>
	<author>Lemmy Caution</author>
	<datestamp>1258828980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think Doctor Manhattan solved that problem well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Doctor Manhattan solved that problem well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Doctor Manhattan solved that problem well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190132</id>
	<title>Re:Same Old Song, A Jack of all Trades</title>
	<author>toadlife</author>
	<datestamp>1258815120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You don't need cell service for GPS to work on smartphones, and there a several good navigation programs available for both Windows mobile and the iPhone which come with come with built on maps - eliminating the need for a data connection.  Standalone navigation is one market that I think phones are definitely going to either eliminate or severly cut into very soon.</p><p>My Touch Pro 2 with a dash mount makes a fantastic navigation tool.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't need cell service for GPS to work on smartphones , and there a several good navigation programs available for both Windows mobile and the iPhone which come with come with built on maps - eliminating the need for a data connection .
Standalone navigation is one market that I think phones are definitely going to either eliminate or severly cut into very soon.My Touch Pro 2 with a dash mount makes a fantastic navigation tool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't need cell service for GPS to work on smartphones, and there a several good navigation programs available for both Windows mobile and the iPhone which come with come with built on maps - eliminating the need for a data connection.
Standalone navigation is one market that I think phones are definitely going to either eliminate or severly cut into very soon.My Touch Pro 2 with a dash mount makes a fantastic navigation tool.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30194940</id>
	<title>"Will make"?</title>
	<author>Goaway</author>
	<datestamp>1258916820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What, you live somewhere where there are still phone booths? Where people still bother with wristwatches?</p><p>Oh, right, the US, isn't it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What , you live somewhere where there are still phone booths ?
Where people still bother with wristwatches ? Oh , right , the US , is n't it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What, you live somewhere where there are still phone booths?
Where people still bother with wristwatches?Oh, right, the US, isn't it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192390</id>
	<title>Re:A load of BS</title>
	<author>mcfedr</author>
	<datestamp>1258892880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>have you tried the latest iphone games? there are some awesome intuative interfaces and great graphics.
my current favourite is 'eliminate pro', fully featured online shooter, load it up, play online, over 2/3g, play quick game on the bus, amazing.
what more could you want?</htmltext>
<tokenext>have you tried the latest iphone games ?
there are some awesome intuative interfaces and great graphics .
my current favourite is 'eliminate pro ' , fully featured online shooter , load it up , play online , over 2/3g , play quick game on the bus , amazing .
what more could you want ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>have you tried the latest iphone games?
there are some awesome intuative interfaces and great graphics.
my current favourite is 'eliminate pro', fully featured online shooter, load it up, play online, over 2/3g, play quick game on the bus, amazing.
what more could you want?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190948</id>
	<title>TFA gets four out of ten</title>
	<author>ffflala</author>
	<datestamp>1258825080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The mobile phone replaced the following for me years ago, in this order:</p><p>landlines<br>wristwatches<br>bedside alarm clocks<br>mp3 players</p><p>At this point phones might serve as backups for cameras, netbooks, and handheld gaming consoles, but the idea of replacing them by convergence into one item ignores that each of those items has a specialized and BIGGER type of form factor to enhance functionality in ways that counter that of a phone.</p><p>While phoneboxes are on their way out, there will probably be some functional replacement along the lines of a pay-per-use public cell station because the need will probably not entirely disappear. As common as phones are, some people sometime are going to need to use a phone, won't have one, and won't be able to borrow one at that moment. Computer kiosks already outnumber phone booths in international airports as it is.</p><p>TFA almost made it through without getting cliche, but then it had to go and include paper. Didn't we already learn this from the dead-wrong paperless office predictions? Phone technology is not even fractionally as mature as paper technology.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The mobile phone replaced the following for me years ago , in this order : landlineswristwatchesbedside alarm clocksmp3 playersAt this point phones might serve as backups for cameras , netbooks , and handheld gaming consoles , but the idea of replacing them by convergence into one item ignores that each of those items has a specialized and BIGGER type of form factor to enhance functionality in ways that counter that of a phone.While phoneboxes are on their way out , there will probably be some functional replacement along the lines of a pay-per-use public cell station because the need will probably not entirely disappear .
As common as phones are , some people sometime are going to need to use a phone , wo n't have one , and wo n't be able to borrow one at that moment .
Computer kiosks already outnumber phone booths in international airports as it is.TFA almost made it through without getting cliche , but then it had to go and include paper .
Did n't we already learn this from the dead-wrong paperless office predictions ?
Phone technology is not even fractionally as mature as paper technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The mobile phone replaced the following for me years ago, in this order:landlineswristwatchesbedside alarm clocksmp3 playersAt this point phones might serve as backups for cameras, netbooks, and handheld gaming consoles, but the idea of replacing them by convergence into one item ignores that each of those items has a specialized and BIGGER type of form factor to enhance functionality in ways that counter that of a phone.While phoneboxes are on their way out, there will probably be some functional replacement along the lines of a pay-per-use public cell station because the need will probably not entirely disappear.
As common as phones are, some people sometime are going to need to use a phone, won't have one, and won't be able to borrow one at that moment.
Computer kiosks already outnumber phone booths in international airports as it is.TFA almost made it through without getting cliche, but then it had to go and include paper.
Didn't we already learn this from the dead-wrong paperless office predictions?
Phone technology is not even fractionally as mature as paper technology.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30196056</id>
	<title>Re:Same Old Song, A Jack of all Trades</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258882380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>4 megapixels phone camera != 4 megapixel real camera</p><p>I have an N95 5 megapixel and my Canon G2 (quite old) absolutely stomps it into the dirt for picture quality.</p><p>How will you fit a decent lense into a scungie little metro-sexual fashion accessory like an iPhone will still keeping enough room in your manbag for your moisturiser and tampons?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>4 megapixels phone camera ! = 4 megapixel real cameraI have an N95 5 megapixel and my Canon G2 ( quite old ) absolutely stomps it into the dirt for picture quality.How will you fit a decent lense into a scungie little metro-sexual fashion accessory like an iPhone will still keeping enough room in your manbag for your moisturiser and tampons ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>4 megapixels phone camera != 4 megapixel real cameraI have an N95 5 megapixel and my Canon G2 (quite old) absolutely stomps it into the dirt for picture quality.How will you fit a decent lense into a scungie little metro-sexual fashion accessory like an iPhone will still keeping enough room in your manbag for your moisturiser and tampons?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189992</id>
	<title>Re:Same Old Song, A Jack of all Trades</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258814160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Even the music functions of an iPhone aren't as good as a regular iPod</p></div></blockquote><p>I own an older ipod, an ipod touch, and an iPhone.  Now I know the touch and the iphone are identical from a music point of view.  I could not, with them side by side, find a difference in functionality between the old ipods and the iphone.</p><p>I'm gonna call citation needed on that one.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even the music functions of an iPhone are n't as good as a regular iPodI own an older ipod , an ipod touch , and an iPhone .
Now I know the touch and the iphone are identical from a music point of view .
I could not , with them side by side , find a difference in functionality between the old ipods and the iphone.I 'm gon na call citation needed on that one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even the music functions of an iPhone aren't as good as a regular iPodI own an older ipod, an ipod touch, and an iPhone.
Now I know the touch and the iphone are identical from a music point of view.
I could not, with them side by side, find a difference in functionality between the old ipods and the iphone.I'm gonna call citation needed on that one.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192188</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>houghi</author>
	<datestamp>1258888440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Give me the most expensive camera and give Annie Leibovitz a phone with a camera and lets see who comes back with the best pictures.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Give me the most expensive camera and give Annie Leibovitz a phone with a camera and lets see who comes back with the best pictures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Give me the most expensive camera and give Annie Leibovitz a phone with a camera and lets see who comes back with the best pictures.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190482</id>
	<title>The 11th thing is...</title>
	<author>adosch</author>
	<datestamp>1258818540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Being attached to a piece of technology at the hip where I can still get hampered with 'the-sky-is-falling' on-call calls when I'm *not* on-call, people I don't feel like talking to me can annoying me with phone calls/txts that I have to take the time to silence, my flip/touch-phone device for a bordem-killer to the point that it takes two years off it's design worth, knowing what time is ANY time of the day (it's actually nice not to keep track of time once in a while), yet another device I have to carry around with me besides my netbook/ipod/work-laptop/gps, etc. (unless you're an uber-UBER power phone user, I don't agree WTFA on that one totally), never knowing anyone's phone number anymore (leaves you dead in the water, especially when you leave your cell phone at home by accident), substituting nice, quality memorable photos from a good, quality digital camera for 1MP squashed ones, loosing total track of your walking and ability to dogde solid objects when trying to answer that important txt msg while on run or in the car (I've seen people almost kill themselves to fulfill that 160 character impulse).  The list can go on and on... It's a mere trade-off for the extra added stress is causes us IMHO.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Being attached to a piece of technology at the hip where I can still get hampered with 'the-sky-is-falling ' on-call calls when I 'm * not * on-call , people I do n't feel like talking to me can annoying me with phone calls/txts that I have to take the time to silence , my flip/touch-phone device for a bordem-killer to the point that it takes two years off it 's design worth , knowing what time is ANY time of the day ( it 's actually nice not to keep track of time once in a while ) , yet another device I have to carry around with me besides my netbook/ipod/work-laptop/gps , etc .
( unless you 're an uber-UBER power phone user , I do n't agree WTFA on that one totally ) , never knowing anyone 's phone number anymore ( leaves you dead in the water , especially when you leave your cell phone at home by accident ) , substituting nice , quality memorable photos from a good , quality digital camera for 1MP squashed ones , loosing total track of your walking and ability to dogde solid objects when trying to answer that important txt msg while on run or in the car ( I 've seen people almost kill themselves to fulfill that 160 character impulse ) .
The list can go on and on... It 's a mere trade-off for the extra added stress is causes us IMHO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being attached to a piece of technology at the hip where I can still get hampered with 'the-sky-is-falling' on-call calls when I'm *not* on-call, people I don't feel like talking to me can annoying me with phone calls/txts that I have to take the time to silence, my flip/touch-phone device for a bordem-killer to the point that it takes two years off it's design worth, knowing what time is ANY time of the day (it's actually nice not to keep track of time once in a while), yet another device I have to carry around with me besides my netbook/ipod/work-laptop/gps, etc.
(unless you're an uber-UBER power phone user, I don't agree WTFA on that one totally), never knowing anyone's phone number anymore (leaves you dead in the water, especially when you leave your cell phone at home by accident), substituting nice, quality memorable photos from a good, quality digital camera for 1MP squashed ones, loosing total track of your walking and ability to dogde solid objects when trying to answer that important txt msg while on run or in the car (I've seen people almost kill themselves to fulfill that 160 character impulse).
The list can go on and on... It's a mere trade-off for the extra added stress is causes us IMHO.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191048</id>
	<title>Doorbells</title>
	<author>Safiiru</author>
	<datestamp>1258826220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you ever visited someone who lives in an apartment and not had a phone on you?  Do this often enough and you've quickly get sick of buzzer systems that have evidently been broken for months or years, intercoms that require you to punch in a code that the person you're visiting didn't think to give you (and may not even know), and, in some cases, buildings that lack per-apartment doorbells entirely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you ever visited someone who lives in an apartment and not had a phone on you ?
Do this often enough and you 've quickly get sick of buzzer systems that have evidently been broken for months or years , intercoms that require you to punch in a code that the person you 're visiting did n't think to give you ( and may not even know ) , and , in some cases , buildings that lack per-apartment doorbells entirely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you ever visited someone who lives in an apartment and not had a phone on you?
Do this often enough and you've quickly get sick of buzzer systems that have evidently been broken for months or years, intercoms that require you to punch in a code that the person you're visiting didn't think to give you (and may not even know), and, in some cases, buildings that lack per-apartment doorbells entirely.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191468</id>
	<title>Everything iDon't, Droid does.</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1258831680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Then there's the fact that phones are horribly locked down</p></div><p>Android phones, not so much.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>as well as incompatible with PCs. Hopefully at some point in the future we'll be able to buy a phone that basically is a PC, running the same OS and software.</p></div><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora\_(console)" title="wikipedia.org">Linux PDA runs Linux</a> [wikipedia.org]; I guess "some point in the future" means "as soon as the case molds get back from China". Sure, Pandora has an ARM CPU, but porting source code originally developed on x86 to ARM is no big feat. Or were you referring to non-free x86-only applications published by Microsoft and Adobe?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then there 's the fact that phones are horribly locked downAndroid phones , not so much.as well as incompatible with PCs .
Hopefully at some point in the future we 'll be able to buy a phone that basically is a PC , running the same OS and software .
Linux PDA runs Linux [ wikipedia.org ] ; I guess " some point in the future " means " as soon as the case molds get back from China " .
Sure , Pandora has an ARM CPU , but porting source code originally developed on x86 to ARM is no big feat .
Or were you referring to non-free x86-only applications published by Microsoft and Adobe ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then there's the fact that phones are horribly locked downAndroid phones, not so much.as well as incompatible with PCs.
Hopefully at some point in the future we'll be able to buy a phone that basically is a PC, running the same OS and software.
Linux PDA runs Linux [wikipedia.org]; I guess "some point in the future" means "as soon as the case molds get back from China".
Sure, Pandora has an ARM CPU, but porting source code originally developed on x86 to ARM is no big feat.
Or were you referring to non-free x86-only applications published by Microsoft and Adobe?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190400</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258817580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hehe, you said assburgers...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hehe , you said assburgers.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hehe, you said assburgers...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190932</id>
	<title>At this rate!</title>
	<author>Vexorian</author>
	<datestamp>1258824480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>At this rate , the day is close when we'll finally have a cell phone that can make phone calls!<blockquote><div><p>Wristwatches - Want to know what time it is? Most people have given up on wearing a watch and simply use their mobile phone's clock</p></div></blockquote><p>Are these people retarded? My watch's battery last years. I wouldn't rely on my cell phones completely random 1 hour to 2 days battery for this.</p><blockquote><div><p>Bedside alarm clocks</p></div></blockquote><p> I don't use alarms of any kind. But unrelaible battery would make me avoid cell phones like the plague for this mission.</p><blockquote><div><p>netbooks</p></div></blockquote><p> Is the author on crack? The first 7 inches netbooks failed because both the screen and the keyboard were too small to be of practical use. I can't picture people wanting a rectangular cell phone with a 10 inches diagonal...</p><blockquote><div><p>Paper</p></div></blockquote><p>  This one will get replaced by netbooks.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>At this rate , the day is close when we 'll finally have a cell phone that can make phone calls ! Wristwatches - Want to know what time it is ?
Most people have given up on wearing a watch and simply use their mobile phone 's clockAre these people retarded ?
My watch 's battery last years .
I would n't rely on my cell phones completely random 1 hour to 2 days battery for this.Bedside alarm clocks I do n't use alarms of any kind .
But unrelaible battery would make me avoid cell phones like the plague for this mission.netbooks Is the author on crack ?
The first 7 inches netbooks failed because both the screen and the keyboard were too small to be of practical use .
I ca n't picture people wanting a rectangular cell phone with a 10 inches diagonal...Paper This one will get replaced by netbooks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At this rate , the day is close when we'll finally have a cell phone that can make phone calls!Wristwatches - Want to know what time it is?
Most people have given up on wearing a watch and simply use their mobile phone's clockAre these people retarded?
My watch's battery last years.
I wouldn't rely on my cell phones completely random 1 hour to 2 days battery for this.Bedside alarm clocks I don't use alarms of any kind.
But unrelaible battery would make me avoid cell phones like the plague for this mission.netbooks Is the author on crack?
The first 7 inches netbooks failed because both the screen and the keyboard were too small to be of practical use.
I can't picture people wanting a rectangular cell phone with a 10 inches diagonal...Paper  This one will get replaced by netbooks.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190746</id>
	<title>Articles this idiotic...</title>
	<author>Schnoogs</author>
	<datestamp>1258822080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...will prompt people to register here just to make fun of it.  Wristwatches?  Yeah because the only reason people where $2000 watches is to find out the time.  They're fashion accesories.  Functional jewelry.  Compact digital cameras?  My iPhone takes horrible pics.  It's great for those "in a pinch" photos but noone is gonna forgo packing their Canon Elph when they go on vacation.  Netbooks?  A statement that idiotic doesn't even warrant a response other than pointing out that it's idiotic.  Paper?  I'm too busy laughing to call it idiotic.  Thinking?  Well clearly the authors cell phone has replaced his need to think so I guess I have to agree with him there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...will prompt people to register here just to make fun of it .
Wristwatches ? Yeah because the only reason people where $ 2000 watches is to find out the time .
They 're fashion accesories .
Functional jewelry .
Compact digital cameras ?
My iPhone takes horrible pics .
It 's great for those " in a pinch " photos but noone is gon na forgo packing their Canon Elph when they go on vacation .
Netbooks ? A statement that idiotic does n't even warrant a response other than pointing out that it 's idiotic .
Paper ? I 'm too busy laughing to call it idiotic .
Thinking ? Well clearly the authors cell phone has replaced his need to think so I guess I have to agree with him there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...will prompt people to register here just to make fun of it.
Wristwatches?  Yeah because the only reason people where $2000 watches is to find out the time.
They're fashion accesories.
Functional jewelry.
Compact digital cameras?
My iPhone takes horrible pics.
It's great for those "in a pinch" photos but noone is gonna forgo packing their Canon Elph when they go on vacation.
Netbooks?  A statement that idiotic doesn't even warrant a response other than pointing out that it's idiotic.
Paper?  I'm too busy laughing to call it idiotic.
Thinking?  Well clearly the authors cell phone has replaced his need to think so I guess I have to agree with him there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191816</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258923300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can you show me any non-wiki dictionary with that definition? <i>Anywhere?</i> To me it's sort of like folks that regularly use the word 'average' when they mean 'median'. I imagine that when enough people decide they are synonymous, it's will simply become a fact; or at least that's how most wikis seem to work.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you show me any non-wiki dictionary with that definition ?
Anywhere ? To me it 's sort of like folks that regularly use the word 'average ' when they mean 'median' .
I imagine that when enough people decide they are synonymous , it 's will simply become a fact ; or at least that 's how most wikis seem to work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you show me any non-wiki dictionary with that definition?
Anywhere? To me it's sort of like folks that regularly use the word 'average' when they mean 'median'.
I imagine that when enough people decide they are synonymous, it's will simply become a fact; or at least that's how most wikis seem to work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191090</id>
	<title>cb/ham radio</title>
	<author>v1</author>
	<datestamp>1258826760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>cell phone proliferation has already all but wiped CB radio off the map.  And it's making ham radio less and less useful.  But I suppose it's still the only reliable communications in disaster areas. (katrina etc where towers and grid power were down)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>cell phone proliferation has already all but wiped CB radio off the map .
And it 's making ham radio less and less useful .
But I suppose it 's still the only reliable communications in disaster areas .
( katrina etc where towers and grid power were down )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>cell phone proliferation has already all but wiped CB radio off the map.
And it's making ham radio less and less useful.
But I suppose it's still the only reliable communications in disaster areas.
(katrina etc where towers and grid power were down)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30193492</id>
	<title>Re:I found an 11th thing...</title>
	<author>sacrilicious</author>
	<datestamp>1258906380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Language is changing all the time, and those resisting such change are hampered by the absence of any true linguistic authorities.  Dictionaries have partially served as authorities for individual words, but different dictionaries don't typically act in concert as far as when to add a new word (e.g. "doh", or "unfriend")... and, dictionaries don't add new words proactively, they do so REactively, ceding the impetus for doing so to empirical observations about what people are already saying.</p><p>Individual words aside, there's a near complete void when it comes to the authority on the evolution of phrases.  Case in point, I can't think of a reason the begthequestion.info website should be trusted as an authority.  Its greatest credentials are that someone took the time to construct it... credentials it shares with scientologists, neonazis, moonlanding hoax theorists, and all the world's religions.</p><p>Not long ago there was no shortage of people dying to point out that ending sentences in prepositions was considered grammatically incorrect.  That issue is dying, simply because too many people found the prescribed sentence structures to be awkward and without any real value in terms of information conveyance...making the people who continue to harp on it  sound crabby and pedantic. (Seriously, who wants to say things like "up with which I will not put"?)</p><p>A telling illustration of people saying what they're habituated to are the phrases "could care less"/"couldn't care less".  Unlike "beg the question", these two phrases themselves contain enough information to make a very strong case that "could care less" is wrong and "couldn't care less" is correct.  Yet many people -- some of them very bright -- say the former all the time.  And I've stopped trying to "correct" them; the very fact that there's enough context for me to know what they mean, even when they use the "wrong" phrase, speaks for itself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Language is changing all the time , and those resisting such change are hampered by the absence of any true linguistic authorities .
Dictionaries have partially served as authorities for individual words , but different dictionaries do n't typically act in concert as far as when to add a new word ( e.g .
" doh " , or " unfriend " ) ... and , dictionaries do n't add new words proactively , they do so REactively , ceding the impetus for doing so to empirical observations about what people are already saying.Individual words aside , there 's a near complete void when it comes to the authority on the evolution of phrases .
Case in point , I ca n't think of a reason the begthequestion.info website should be trusted as an authority .
Its greatest credentials are that someone took the time to construct it... credentials it shares with scientologists , neonazis , moonlanding hoax theorists , and all the world 's religions.Not long ago there was no shortage of people dying to point out that ending sentences in prepositions was considered grammatically incorrect .
That issue is dying , simply because too many people found the prescribed sentence structures to be awkward and without any real value in terms of information conveyance...making the people who continue to harp on it sound crabby and pedantic .
( Seriously , who wants to say things like " up with which I will not put " ?
) A telling illustration of people saying what they 're habituated to are the phrases " could care less " / " could n't care less " .
Unlike " beg the question " , these two phrases themselves contain enough information to make a very strong case that " could care less " is wrong and " could n't care less " is correct .
Yet many people -- some of them very bright -- say the former all the time .
And I 've stopped trying to " correct " them ; the very fact that there 's enough context for me to know what they mean , even when they use the " wrong " phrase , speaks for itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Language is changing all the time, and those resisting such change are hampered by the absence of any true linguistic authorities.
Dictionaries have partially served as authorities for individual words, but different dictionaries don't typically act in concert as far as when to add a new word (e.g.
"doh", or "unfriend")... and, dictionaries don't add new words proactively, they do so REactively, ceding the impetus for doing so to empirical observations about what people are already saying.Individual words aside, there's a near complete void when it comes to the authority on the evolution of phrases.
Case in point, I can't think of a reason the begthequestion.info website should be trusted as an authority.
Its greatest credentials are that someone took the time to construct it... credentials it shares with scientologists, neonazis, moonlanding hoax theorists, and all the world's religions.Not long ago there was no shortage of people dying to point out that ending sentences in prepositions was considered grammatically incorrect.
That issue is dying, simply because too many people found the prescribed sentence structures to be awkward and without any real value in terms of information conveyance...making the people who continue to harp on it  sound crabby and pedantic.
(Seriously, who wants to say things like "up with which I will not put"?
)A telling illustration of people saying what they're habituated to are the phrases "could care less"/"couldn't care less".
Unlike "beg the question", these two phrases themselves contain enough information to make a very strong case that "could care less" is wrong and "couldn't care less" is correct.
Yet many people -- some of them very bright -- say the former all the time.
And I've stopped trying to "correct" them; the very fact that there's enough context for me to know what they mean, even when they use the "wrong" phrase, speaks for itself.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189412</id>
	<title>Not 'til I'm dead, most likely</title>
	<author>Overzeetop</author>
	<datestamp>1258809480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...which is probably sooner than I'd prefer, but still a couple of decades away at least.</p><p>Wristwatches - I know people who use their phone. My watch is faster, convenient for me. It's a fashion accessory for many (in addition to their fashion phones)</p><p>Bedside alarm clocks - I can see this, but until shows the time without me having to touch it (and without it lighting the whole room with the back light), wakes me up with NPR, and increased the light in my room to simulate a sunrise, I'll stick with my beside box. (Okay, two boxes...it's a SunRizr that does the lights)</p><p>MP3 players - I'm sure all the iPhone guys are saying "hell yes." I've got a WM phone, and while it does great things the iPhone can't, it sucks donkey balls as a music player. The average phone is going to have to get a lot better - and a lot bigger storage (which will happen "soon") - to take over as my portable player. I'll still keep my SwimP# for the pool though...I don't think many phones would thrive in a aquatic environment.</p><p>Landline home phones - Okay, just call me an old fart; I'll probably always have one. The uptime is much better than cell.</p><p>Compact digital cameras - they're going to have to get massively better. I'm talking several orders of magnitude. Maybe before I die. Maybe.</p><p>Netbooks - keyboards and screens that don't require massive scrolling or a magnifying glass. 'Nuff said.</p><p>Handheld games consoles - Hmmmm...not much use for one, so... *shrug*</p><p>Paper - sorry, I still print directions and confirmations. This may change. Someday. But I'm awfully attached to dead trees. Probably has to do with my note taking desires, and the aforementioned need for a magnifying glass or scrolling for all but the simplest of things on a phone.</p><p>Thinking - The 'net has already made that obsolete. Now get off my lawn...</p><p>Man, I need to get back to work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...which is probably sooner than I 'd prefer , but still a couple of decades away at least.Wristwatches - I know people who use their phone .
My watch is faster , convenient for me .
It 's a fashion accessory for many ( in addition to their fashion phones ) Bedside alarm clocks - I can see this , but until shows the time without me having to touch it ( and without it lighting the whole room with the back light ) , wakes me up with NPR , and increased the light in my room to simulate a sunrise , I 'll stick with my beside box .
( Okay , two boxes...it 's a SunRizr that does the lights ) MP3 players - I 'm sure all the iPhone guys are saying " hell yes .
" I 've got a WM phone , and while it does great things the iPhone ca n't , it sucks donkey balls as a music player .
The average phone is going to have to get a lot better - and a lot bigger storage ( which will happen " soon " ) - to take over as my portable player .
I 'll still keep my SwimP # for the pool though...I do n't think many phones would thrive in a aquatic environment.Landline home phones - Okay , just call me an old fart ; I 'll probably always have one .
The uptime is much better than cell.Compact digital cameras - they 're going to have to get massively better .
I 'm talking several orders of magnitude .
Maybe before I die .
Maybe.Netbooks - keyboards and screens that do n't require massive scrolling or a magnifying glass .
'Nuff said.Handheld games consoles - Hmmmm...not much use for one , so... * shrug * Paper - sorry , I still print directions and confirmations .
This may change .
Someday. But I 'm awfully attached to dead trees .
Probably has to do with my note taking desires , and the aforementioned need for a magnifying glass or scrolling for all but the simplest of things on a phone.Thinking - The 'net has already made that obsolete .
Now get off my lawn...Man , I need to get back to work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...which is probably sooner than I'd prefer, but still a couple of decades away at least.Wristwatches - I know people who use their phone.
My watch is faster, convenient for me.
It's a fashion accessory for many (in addition to their fashion phones)Bedside alarm clocks - I can see this, but until shows the time without me having to touch it (and without it lighting the whole room with the back light), wakes me up with NPR, and increased the light in my room to simulate a sunrise, I'll stick with my beside box.
(Okay, two boxes...it's a SunRizr that does the lights)MP3 players - I'm sure all the iPhone guys are saying "hell yes.
" I've got a WM phone, and while it does great things the iPhone can't, it sucks donkey balls as a music player.
The average phone is going to have to get a lot better - and a lot bigger storage (which will happen "soon") - to take over as my portable player.
I'll still keep my SwimP# for the pool though...I don't think many phones would thrive in a aquatic environment.Landline home phones - Okay, just call me an old fart; I'll probably always have one.
The uptime is much better than cell.Compact digital cameras - they're going to have to get massively better.
I'm talking several orders of magnitude.
Maybe before I die.
Maybe.Netbooks - keyboards and screens that don't require massive scrolling or a magnifying glass.
'Nuff said.Handheld games consoles - Hmmmm...not much use for one, so... *shrug*Paper - sorry, I still print directions and confirmations.
This may change.
Someday. But I'm awfully attached to dead trees.
Probably has to do with my note taking desires, and the aforementioned need for a magnifying glass or scrolling for all but the simplest of things on a phone.Thinking - The 'net has already made that obsolete.
Now get off my lawn...Man, I need to get back to work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191620</id>
	<title>Re:Same Old Song, A Jack of all Trades</title>
	<author>IronChef</author>
	<datestamp>1258920180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I like having a Nintendo DS.  The iPhone has not provided a game with the depth of most AAA DS titles.</p></div><p>Not to mention, who wants to get into bed with the damn TELEPHONE COMPANY to enjoy a game console?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I like having a Nintendo DS .
The iPhone has not provided a game with the depth of most AAA DS titles.Not to mention , who wants to get into bed with the damn TELEPHONE COMPANY to enjoy a game console ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like having a Nintendo DS.
The iPhone has not provided a game with the depth of most AAA DS titles.Not to mention, who wants to get into bed with the damn TELEPHONE COMPANY to enjoy a game console?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30194214</id>
	<title>Re:A load of BS</title>
	<author>Cederic</author>
	<datestamp>1258911720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My phone has already made the netbook obsolete for me. Why buy a limited device with a sub-optimal screen that wont fit in my pocket when I already have a comparable device in my pocket?</p><p>For work and at home I still prefer a proper notebook, and when I work on the train that's what I use, but at other times it's my G1 (soon to replaced by a Nokia n900).</p><p>Similarly, although gaming on a DS is better than on my G1, I have the G1 with me. I don't have the DS with me (and in fact didn't buy one based on how rarely I had the Gameboy with me).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My phone has already made the netbook obsolete for me .
Why buy a limited device with a sub-optimal screen that wont fit in my pocket when I already have a comparable device in my pocket ? For work and at home I still prefer a proper notebook , and when I work on the train that 's what I use , but at other times it 's my G1 ( soon to replaced by a Nokia n900 ) .Similarly , although gaming on a DS is better than on my G1 , I have the G1 with me .
I do n't have the DS with me ( and in fact did n't buy one based on how rarely I had the Gameboy with me ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My phone has already made the netbook obsolete for me.
Why buy a limited device with a sub-optimal screen that wont fit in my pocket when I already have a comparable device in my pocket?For work and at home I still prefer a proper notebook, and when I work on the train that's what I use, but at other times it's my G1 (soon to replaced by a Nokia n900).Similarly, although gaming on a DS is better than on my G1, I have the G1 with me.
I don't have the DS with me (and in fact didn't buy one based on how rarely I had the Gameboy with me).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191138</id>
	<title>Re:No phone booths?</title>
	<author>dcollins</author>
	<datestamp>1258827360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"That's just dandy... where is Clark Kent supposed to change now?"</p><p>You realize that gag was actually on film in the Superman I movie over 30 years ago, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" That 's just dandy... where is Clark Kent supposed to change now ?
" You realize that gag was actually on film in the Superman I movie over 30 years ago , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"That's just dandy... where is Clark Kent supposed to change now?
"You realize that gag was actually on film in the Superman I movie over 30 years ago, right?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190348</id>
	<title>Quality doesn't matter</title>
	<author>AlXtreme</author>
	<datestamp>1258816980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It doesn't matter how good the picture is. This is the point many a photographer forgets when it comes to phone cameras.</p><p>It's about being able to get an acceptable picture without having to carry a camera with you. It's about being able to know the time without wearing a watch. It's about being able to set an alarm or add a quick note without needing a separate PDA. It's about being able to check your e-mail without having to carry around a laptop.</p><p>Quality doesn't matter, as long as it is good enough to get the job done. I for one like being able to leave my camera at home and still being able to make a quick shot if the occasion arises. Nobody is going to compare them to shots taken with a SLR, and that's perfectly fine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't matter how good the picture is .
This is the point many a photographer forgets when it comes to phone cameras.It 's about being able to get an acceptable picture without having to carry a camera with you .
It 's about being able to know the time without wearing a watch .
It 's about being able to set an alarm or add a quick note without needing a separate PDA .
It 's about being able to check your e-mail without having to carry around a laptop.Quality does n't matter , as long as it is good enough to get the job done .
I for one like being able to leave my camera at home and still being able to make a quick shot if the occasion arises .
Nobody is going to compare them to shots taken with a SLR , and that 's perfectly fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't matter how good the picture is.
This is the point many a photographer forgets when it comes to phone cameras.It's about being able to get an acceptable picture without having to carry a camera with you.
It's about being able to know the time without wearing a watch.
It's about being able to set an alarm or add a quick note without needing a separate PDA.
It's about being able to check your e-mail without having to carry around a laptop.Quality doesn't matter, as long as it is good enough to get the job done.
I for one like being able to leave my camera at home and still being able to make a quick shot if the occasion arises.
Nobody is going to compare them to shots taken with a SLR, and that's perfectly fine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189770</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258812540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's not Aspergers, that's just pedantry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's not Aspergers , that 's just pedantry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's not Aspergers, that's just pedantry.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191736</id>
	<title>Re:No phone booths?</title>
	<author>wasudeo</author>
	<datestamp>1258921680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, there's always the Tardis</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , there 's always the Tardis</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, there's always the Tardis</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190588</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>citizenr</author>
	<datestamp>1258819800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>SE K800i 3Mpix, SE K850i 5Mpix, Sony sensor. Better than N95. Better than most old 2-3Mpix cameras.</htmltext>
<tokenext>SE K800i 3Mpix , SE K850i 5Mpix , Sony sensor .
Better than N95 .
Better than most old 2-3Mpix cameras .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SE K800i 3Mpix, SE K850i 5Mpix, Sony sensor.
Better than N95.
Better than most old 2-3Mpix cameras.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191450</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>KibibyteBrain</author>
	<datestamp>1258831440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even compact point and shoot cameras haven't made their big brothers obsolete. Try one of the most expensive smaller point and shoots in the store and then compare it to a full size one at a midrange pricepoint, and see the difference.
Photography is quite physically limited. It's all a game of capturing just the right amount of light in a short amount of time without distorting the light in the process. A large chunk of high quality glass is the easiest way to do this. Most people do not want a large chunk of high quality glass on their cellular phone, and even if they were cool with it I doubt it would stay high quality for long being handled that much.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even compact point and shoot cameras have n't made their big brothers obsolete .
Try one of the most expensive smaller point and shoots in the store and then compare it to a full size one at a midrange pricepoint , and see the difference .
Photography is quite physically limited .
It 's all a game of capturing just the right amount of light in a short amount of time without distorting the light in the process .
A large chunk of high quality glass is the easiest way to do this .
Most people do not want a large chunk of high quality glass on their cellular phone , and even if they were cool with it I doubt it would stay high quality for long being handled that much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even compact point and shoot cameras haven't made their big brothers obsolete.
Try one of the most expensive smaller point and shoots in the store and then compare it to a full size one at a midrange pricepoint, and see the difference.
Photography is quite physically limited.
It's all a game of capturing just the right amount of light in a short amount of time without distorting the light in the process.
A large chunk of high quality glass is the easiest way to do this.
Most people do not want a large chunk of high quality glass on their cellular phone, and even if they were cool with it I doubt it would stay high quality for long being handled that much.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191148</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>theArtificial</author>
	<datestamp>1258827540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is that the same Aspergers that lets you replace 'is' with 'if'?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that the same Aspergers that lets you replace 'is ' with 'if ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that the same Aspergers that lets you replace 'is' with 'if'?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30194148</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>Cederic</author>
	<datestamp>1258911180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The last. For many people, the convenience of an adequate quality camera always available is extremely valuable.</p><p>People have limited carrying capacity. They realise that they can get mobile telephony, a personal organiser, access to their music collection and the ability to capture photographs in a single device, and are happy to compromise on one or more of those capabilities if it avoids them having to carry a second device.</p><p>Many people are happy with the quality of their phone camera. Many more are unhappy with it, but not unhappy enough to carry a second device around to take photographs.</p><p>The poor quality photo taken with your phone is immeasurably superior to the photo you didn't take because your camera was at home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The last .
For many people , the convenience of an adequate quality camera always available is extremely valuable.People have limited carrying capacity .
They realise that they can get mobile telephony , a personal organiser , access to their music collection and the ability to capture photographs in a single device , and are happy to compromise on one or more of those capabilities if it avoids them having to carry a second device.Many people are happy with the quality of their phone camera .
Many more are unhappy with it , but not unhappy enough to carry a second device around to take photographs.The poor quality photo taken with your phone is immeasurably superior to the photo you did n't take because your camera was at home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The last.
For many people, the convenience of an adequate quality camera always available is extremely valuable.People have limited carrying capacity.
They realise that they can get mobile telephony, a personal organiser, access to their music collection and the ability to capture photographs in a single device, and are happy to compromise on one or more of those capabilities if it avoids them having to carry a second device.Many people are happy with the quality of their phone camera.
Many more are unhappy with it, but not unhappy enough to carry a second device around to take photographs.The poor quality photo taken with your phone is immeasurably superior to the photo you didn't take because your camera was at home.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189622</id>
	<title>Wristwatchs will not be made obsolete</title>
	<author>gurps\_npc</author>
	<datestamp>1258810920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They serve two purposes, not one.  Frankly, telling time is the least of their purposes.

As a man, a wristwatch is probably the single most expensive a wife/girlfriend or even boyfriend can buy for you.   It can be large without being sententious, be jewel encrusted or plain, and can hold much more metal and gems then a ring.

Also, they are more accessible.  It is far easier and less obvious to check than to pull out a phone and flip it/turn it on/enter your password.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They serve two purposes , not one .
Frankly , telling time is the least of their purposes .
As a man , a wristwatch is probably the single most expensive a wife/girlfriend or even boyfriend can buy for you .
It can be large without being sententious , be jewel encrusted or plain , and can hold much more metal and gems then a ring .
Also , they are more accessible .
It is far easier and less obvious to check than to pull out a phone and flip it/turn it on/enter your password .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They serve two purposes, not one.
Frankly, telling time is the least of their purposes.
As a man, a wristwatch is probably the single most expensive a wife/girlfriend or even boyfriend can buy for you.
It can be large without being sententious, be jewel encrusted or plain, and can hold much more metal and gems then a ring.
Also, they are more accessible.
It is far easier and less obvious to check than to pull out a phone and flip it/turn it on/enter your password.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190458</id>
	<title>Wrong on many points.</title>
	<author>tjstork</author>
	<datestamp>1258818180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think we have a foolish view of obsolescence, where, something new comes along that is completely better and replaces the thing that was before it.  Technological advance is really a sort of a specialization, where the new thing improves on some fraction of tasks the old thing did.  While one computer might make the old one completely obsolete, hardware wise, in software, there really hasn't been so much in sweeping replacement.  UTF-8 might be more international than ASCII, but ASCII is still cheaper to work with if you are an American only firm, so, there's a niche for ASCII.</p><p>Its silly to say that cell phones will replace hand game consoles. As cell phones evolve, so too will game consoles, and, a joystick is an entirely different thing than what most cells have.  There's money involved.  Even if it could theoretically be done, the moment somebody puts 3d graphics in a cell phone, somebody else's cell phone will get that much cheaper and so even 3d graphics won't be quite so universal or maybe there will be another trade-off - simpler graphics for longer battery life.  And, handheld consoles will have bigger screens.</p><p>Cell phone cameras have some hard physical limits to get up against.  You need to have decent lenses...</p><p>Reading a book on a cell phone screen seems to be a terrible screen. I'd think I'd rather have a larger screen that I might not carry around as often but can still move around the house or in the car without too much hastle, kinda like a <i>kindle</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think we have a foolish view of obsolescence , where , something new comes along that is completely better and replaces the thing that was before it .
Technological advance is really a sort of a specialization , where the new thing improves on some fraction of tasks the old thing did .
While one computer might make the old one completely obsolete , hardware wise , in software , there really has n't been so much in sweeping replacement .
UTF-8 might be more international than ASCII , but ASCII is still cheaper to work with if you are an American only firm , so , there 's a niche for ASCII.Its silly to say that cell phones will replace hand game consoles .
As cell phones evolve , so too will game consoles , and , a joystick is an entirely different thing than what most cells have .
There 's money involved .
Even if it could theoretically be done , the moment somebody puts 3d graphics in a cell phone , somebody else 's cell phone will get that much cheaper and so even 3d graphics wo n't be quite so universal or maybe there will be another trade-off - simpler graphics for longer battery life .
And , handheld consoles will have bigger screens.Cell phone cameras have some hard physical limits to get up against .
You need to have decent lenses...Reading a book on a cell phone screen seems to be a terrible screen .
I 'd think I 'd rather have a larger screen that I might not carry around as often but can still move around the house or in the car without too much hastle , kinda like a kindle</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think we have a foolish view of obsolescence, where, something new comes along that is completely better and replaces the thing that was before it.
Technological advance is really a sort of a specialization, where the new thing improves on some fraction of tasks the old thing did.
While one computer might make the old one completely obsolete, hardware wise, in software, there really hasn't been so much in sweeping replacement.
UTF-8 might be more international than ASCII, but ASCII is still cheaper to work with if you are an American only firm, so, there's a niche for ASCII.Its silly to say that cell phones will replace hand game consoles.
As cell phones evolve, so too will game consoles, and, a joystick is an entirely different thing than what most cells have.
There's money involved.
Even if it could theoretically be done, the moment somebody puts 3d graphics in a cell phone, somebody else's cell phone will get that much cheaper and so even 3d graphics won't be quite so universal or maybe there will be another trade-off - simpler graphics for longer battery life.
And, handheld consoles will have bigger screens.Cell phone cameras have some hard physical limits to get up against.
You need to have decent lenses...Reading a book on a cell phone screen seems to be a terrible screen.
I'd think I'd rather have a larger screen that I might not carry around as often but can still move around the house or in the car without too much hastle, kinda like a kindle</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192224</id>
	<title>Re:Convergence.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258888980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't noticed practically any reliability problems that would have caused by anything else than operator issues during those 15 years or so I've used GSM networks. Even operator network issues are extremely rare and occur maybe couple times per year. I assume you're American; would it be time to demand the operators provide the service customers actually are paying for?</p><p>And yes, "dropping a call" is an operator issue worth mentioning in this context. It happens for me, here in american-view across-the-pond communist periphery maybe once a year.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't noticed practically any reliability problems that would have caused by anything else than operator issues during those 15 years or so I 've used GSM networks .
Even operator network issues are extremely rare and occur maybe couple times per year .
I assume you 're American ; would it be time to demand the operators provide the service customers actually are paying for ? And yes , " dropping a call " is an operator issue worth mentioning in this context .
It happens for me , here in american-view across-the-pond communist periphery maybe once a year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't noticed practically any reliability problems that would have caused by anything else than operator issues during those 15 years or so I've used GSM networks.
Even operator network issues are extremely rare and occur maybe couple times per year.
I assume you're American; would it be time to demand the operators provide the service customers actually are paying for?And yes, "dropping a call" is an operator issue worth mentioning in this context.
It happens for me, here in american-view across-the-pond communist periphery maybe once a year.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191316</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258829700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>my 5MP cam on my phone is plenty of res for me at least for general use, and the convenience of being able to upload/email/save to my computer all in one step is fantastic.</p><p>for anything where i'd need higher res, i'd get an SLR, not a point and shoot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>my 5MP cam on my phone is plenty of res for me at least for general use , and the convenience of being able to upload/email/save to my computer all in one step is fantastic.for anything where i 'd need higher res , i 'd get an SLR , not a point and shoot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>my 5MP cam on my phone is plenty of res for me at least for general use, and the convenience of being able to upload/email/save to my computer all in one step is fantastic.for anything where i'd need higher res, i'd get an SLR, not a point and shoot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192294</id>
	<title>Re:Same Old Song, A Jack of all Trades</title>
	<author>dbcad7</author>
	<datestamp>1258890480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is no need for phones to become portable gaming consoles.. There is a need for occasional time killing games on a cell phone. Anyone who thinks that phones need more must not have a job or a life.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is no need for phones to become portable gaming consoles.. There is a need for occasional time killing games on a cell phone .
Anyone who thinks that phones need more must not have a job or a life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is no need for phones to become portable gaming consoles.. There is a need for occasional time killing games on a cell phone.
Anyone who thinks that phones need more must not have a job or a life.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191396</id>
	<title>OK, OK</title>
	<author>jipn4</author>
	<datestamp>1258830660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Stop shouting, I can hear you.  I'll get off your lawn.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Stop shouting , I can hear you .
I 'll get off your lawn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stop shouting, I can hear you.
I'll get off your lawn.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191302</id>
	<title>Don't entirely agree with TFA</title>
	<author>Endo13</author>
	<datestamp>1258829520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The article has some good points, and I agree with most of their predictions, but not all. First, paper. Mobile phones will never make paper obsolete. The only thing that could *possibly* make paper (as we know it) obsolete is electronic paper. Any device small enough to be considered a mobile phone is too small to replace paper, plain and simple. Same thing goes for netbooks. If mobile phones were going to replace netbooks, netbooks would never have happened. Mobile phones already have everything to offer that could possibly make them a replacement for netbooks (prime example, LG env Touch), and yet netbooks are still selling like mad. It's because netbooks hit that perfect balance between usability and portability. They're small enough to put in just about any bag, yet big enough to (relatively) easily type on, and have a screen that's just large enough to properly display things like websites. Again, mobile phones are just too small for this. I also don't see phones truly replacing portable game consoles - there's a lot to be said for a discrete d-pad, shoulder buttons, etc. You can only do so much with a touch screen, no matter how good it is. And as for thinking... gosh I hope not.</p><p>But for the rest, yeah it's already happened for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The article has some good points , and I agree with most of their predictions , but not all .
First , paper .
Mobile phones will never make paper obsolete .
The only thing that could * possibly * make paper ( as we know it ) obsolete is electronic paper .
Any device small enough to be considered a mobile phone is too small to replace paper , plain and simple .
Same thing goes for netbooks .
If mobile phones were going to replace netbooks , netbooks would never have happened .
Mobile phones already have everything to offer that could possibly make them a replacement for netbooks ( prime example , LG env Touch ) , and yet netbooks are still selling like mad .
It 's because netbooks hit that perfect balance between usability and portability .
They 're small enough to put in just about any bag , yet big enough to ( relatively ) easily type on , and have a screen that 's just large enough to properly display things like websites .
Again , mobile phones are just too small for this .
I also do n't see phones truly replacing portable game consoles - there 's a lot to be said for a discrete d-pad , shoulder buttons , etc .
You can only do so much with a touch screen , no matter how good it is .
And as for thinking... gosh I hope not.But for the rest , yeah it 's already happened for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article has some good points, and I agree with most of their predictions, but not all.
First, paper.
Mobile phones will never make paper obsolete.
The only thing that could *possibly* make paper (as we know it) obsolete is electronic paper.
Any device small enough to be considered a mobile phone is too small to replace paper, plain and simple.
Same thing goes for netbooks.
If mobile phones were going to replace netbooks, netbooks would never have happened.
Mobile phones already have everything to offer that could possibly make them a replacement for netbooks (prime example, LG env Touch), and yet netbooks are still selling like mad.
It's because netbooks hit that perfect balance between usability and portability.
They're small enough to put in just about any bag, yet big enough to (relatively) easily type on, and have a screen that's just large enough to properly display things like websites.
Again, mobile phones are just too small for this.
I also don't see phones truly replacing portable game consoles - there's a lot to be said for a discrete d-pad, shoulder buttons, etc.
You can only do so much with a touch screen, no matter how good it is.
And as for thinking... gosh I hope not.But for the rest, yeah it's already happened for me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189656</id>
	<title>Re:No phone booths?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258811340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, if you saw Superman Returns, he seems to just rip off his clothes in the middle of the sidewalk. That's the modern world for you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , if you saw Superman Returns , he seems to just rip off his clothes in the middle of the sidewalk .
That 's the modern world for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, if you saw Superman Returns, he seems to just rip off his clothes in the middle of the sidewalk.
That's the modern world for you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191902</id>
	<title>skip that last reply</title>
	<author>symbolset</author>
	<datestamp>1258881960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It was redundant.
<p>That comma is author's choice.  Bite me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was redundant .
That comma is author 's choice .
Bite me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was redundant.
That comma is author's choice.
Bite me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192328</id>
	<title>Re:Convergence.</title>
	<author>damaki</author>
	<datestamp>1258891380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Phone service providers have absolutely no interest in providing reliable service. Overpriced good enough service, is well... good enough. As every mobile operator sells crap, you only have choice between crappy crap and not so crappy crap but crappy as well. Here is the fucked up market, pick your choice in the cartel.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Phone service providers have absolutely no interest in providing reliable service .
Overpriced good enough service , is well... good enough .
As every mobile operator sells crap , you only have choice between crappy crap and not so crappy crap but crappy as well .
Here is the fucked up market , pick your choice in the cartel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Phone service providers have absolutely no interest in providing reliable service.
Overpriced good enough service, is well... good enough.
As every mobile operator sells crap, you only have choice between crappy crap and not so crappy crap but crappy as well.
Here is the fucked up market, pick your choice in the cartel.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190194</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>symbolset</author>
	<datestamp>1258815660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, its the Asberger's.  Since we're on peeves Asberger's is possessive and gets an apostrophe.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , its the Asberger 's .
Since we 're on peeves Asberger 's is possessive and gets an apostrophe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, its the Asberger's.
Since we're on peeves Asberger's is possessive and gets an apostrophe.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30198126</id>
	<title>Re:Five more things mobile p... make obs...e</title>
	<author>Psaakyrn</author>
	<datestamp>1258899540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can have a safe drive? I thought alcohol already made that obsolete years ago.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can have a safe drive ?
I thought alcohol already made that obsolete years ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can have a safe drive?
I thought alcohol already made that obsolete years ago.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191660</id>
	<title>Wristwatches for cooking</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258920660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obviously most Slashdotters here don't cook more than nuking a hotpocket in a microwave.</p><p>Anyone who cooks, needs a watch (besides a timer) so you can keep several things timed. Best is a diving watch (rotating bezel) that doesn't mind water. Note Guy Fieri from Food Network often wears a Seiko Orange Monster diving watch in his shows, Alton Brown has IIRC a Bulova Diving watch.</p><p>Besides being beautiful, watches help you time (multiple) dishes. They are (because they are specialized) far more useful (particularly analog watches) for not just telling time but estimating at a glance how much time is left before the next appointment, etc. A good quality watch can be had for reasonable amounts, will last quite long, and tell time quite well, and as noted be an acceptable piece of jewelry for men that instantly displays status/judgment/personality. For things like diving, or skiing, or any active sports where keeping track of time is important, they are also the only thing acceptable. Analog watches can function in a pinch as <a href="http://www.world-time-zones.org/articles/compass.htm" title="world-time-zones.org" rel="nofollow">work-around compasses in the daytime</a> [world-time-zones.org].</p><p>A point and shoot camera will give you better results than a cell-phone camera, though the ubiquity of cell phone cameras is striking. The Nintendo DS is a better and more enjoyable gaming platform than the IPhone, though the ubiquity of the IPhone is threatening Nintendo sales.</p><p>Bottom line, if you cook, or have to get to meetings on time, or duck out of meetings at a certain time, or partake of active sports or outdoor activities, a watch beats the cell phone. So does Nintendo/PSP for gaming, cameras for picture taking, and paper for reading anywhere and any time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obviously most Slashdotters here do n't cook more than nuking a hotpocket in a microwave.Anyone who cooks , needs a watch ( besides a timer ) so you can keep several things timed .
Best is a diving watch ( rotating bezel ) that does n't mind water .
Note Guy Fieri from Food Network often wears a Seiko Orange Monster diving watch in his shows , Alton Brown has IIRC a Bulova Diving watch.Besides being beautiful , watches help you time ( multiple ) dishes .
They are ( because they are specialized ) far more useful ( particularly analog watches ) for not just telling time but estimating at a glance how much time is left before the next appointment , etc .
A good quality watch can be had for reasonable amounts , will last quite long , and tell time quite well , and as noted be an acceptable piece of jewelry for men that instantly displays status/judgment/personality .
For things like diving , or skiing , or any active sports where keeping track of time is important , they are also the only thing acceptable .
Analog watches can function in a pinch as work-around compasses in the daytime [ world-time-zones.org ] .A point and shoot camera will give you better results than a cell-phone camera , though the ubiquity of cell phone cameras is striking .
The Nintendo DS is a better and more enjoyable gaming platform than the IPhone , though the ubiquity of the IPhone is threatening Nintendo sales.Bottom line , if you cook , or have to get to meetings on time , or duck out of meetings at a certain time , or partake of active sports or outdoor activities , a watch beats the cell phone .
So does Nintendo/PSP for gaming , cameras for picture taking , and paper for reading anywhere and any time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obviously most Slashdotters here don't cook more than nuking a hotpocket in a microwave.Anyone who cooks, needs a watch (besides a timer) so you can keep several things timed.
Best is a diving watch (rotating bezel) that doesn't mind water.
Note Guy Fieri from Food Network often wears a Seiko Orange Monster diving watch in his shows, Alton Brown has IIRC a Bulova Diving watch.Besides being beautiful, watches help you time (multiple) dishes.
They are (because they are specialized) far more useful (particularly analog watches) for not just telling time but estimating at a glance how much time is left before the next appointment, etc.
A good quality watch can be had for reasonable amounts, will last quite long, and tell time quite well, and as noted be an acceptable piece of jewelry for men that instantly displays status/judgment/personality.
For things like diving, or skiing, or any active sports where keeping track of time is important, they are also the only thing acceptable.
Analog watches can function in a pinch as work-around compasses in the daytime [world-time-zones.org].A point and shoot camera will give you better results than a cell-phone camera, though the ubiquity of cell phone cameras is striking.
The Nintendo DS is a better and more enjoyable gaming platform than the IPhone, though the ubiquity of the IPhone is threatening Nintendo sales.Bottom line, if you cook, or have to get to meetings on time, or duck out of meetings at a certain time, or partake of active sports or outdoor activities, a watch beats the cell phone.
So does Nintendo/PSP for gaming, cameras for picture taking, and paper for reading anywhere and any time.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190110</id>
	<title>Re:Same Old Song, A Jack of all Trades</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1258814940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You might be old... no one said it'd replace things in any current generation, just future ones.<br> <br>I think gaming systems becoming phones is more likely<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... psp could have done it (not nintendo likely).<br> <br>Unless you are rich a good phone will match a pretty good camera in quality.... 4megapixel is more than enough for most things.... Unless you are a photographer, that's different though.<br> <br>Phones will probably kill mp3players soon. They haven't gotten it quite right but its not a huge leap.<br> <br>Guys have shoes and suits still.... and fashion changes.<br> <br>How about a big slider on the side of the device to select phone mode, computer mode, song mode, camera mode. That fixes any ui issues there may be...</htmltext>
<tokenext>You might be old... no one said it 'd replace things in any current generation , just future ones .
I think gaming systems becoming phones is more likely ... psp could have done it ( not nintendo likely ) .
Unless you are rich a good phone will match a pretty good camera in quality.... 4megapixel is more than enough for most things.... Unless you are a photographer , that 's different though .
Phones will probably kill mp3players soon .
They have n't gotten it quite right but its not a huge leap .
Guys have shoes and suits still.... and fashion changes .
How about a big slider on the side of the device to select phone mode , computer mode , song mode , camera mode .
That fixes any ui issues there may be.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You might be old... no one said it'd replace things in any current generation, just future ones.
I think gaming systems becoming phones is more likely ... psp could have done it (not nintendo likely).
Unless you are rich a good phone will match a pretty good camera in quality.... 4megapixel is more than enough for most things.... Unless you are a photographer, that's different though.
Phones will probably kill mp3players soon.
They haven't gotten it quite right but its not a huge leap.
Guys have shoes and suits still.... and fashion changes.
How about a big slider on the side of the device to select phone mode, computer mode, song mode, camera mode.
That fixes any ui issues there may be...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189388</id>
	<title>A load of BS</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1258809360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Computers were supposed to get rid of paper and they didn't. Phones won't either.
<br> <br>
Gaming on a phone is awful. Unless that is properly addressed, then the likes of the Nintendo DS won't have to worry and I'm sure Nintendo isn't seeing how many DS units they're selling.
<br> <br>
If I am going to do work during my commute it will be on a laptop or netbook, not a  mobile. I suspect a lot of people feel the same way.
<br> <br>
Decent cameras will never go away because a phone will never be able to match the feature set of the camera....even compact ones, imo.
<br> <br>
Watches will always exist, if anything, as a fashion accessory.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Computers were supposed to get rid of paper and they did n't .
Phones wo n't either .
Gaming on a phone is awful .
Unless that is properly addressed , then the likes of the Nintendo DS wo n't have to worry and I 'm sure Nintendo is n't seeing how many DS units they 're selling .
If I am going to do work during my commute it will be on a laptop or netbook , not a mobile .
I suspect a lot of people feel the same way .
Decent cameras will never go away because a phone will never be able to match the feature set of the camera....even compact ones , imo .
Watches will always exist , if anything , as a fashion accessory .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Computers were supposed to get rid of paper and they didn't.
Phones won't either.
Gaming on a phone is awful.
Unless that is properly addressed, then the likes of the Nintendo DS won't have to worry and I'm sure Nintendo isn't seeing how many DS units they're selling.
If I am going to do work during my commute it will be on a laptop or netbook, not a  mobile.
I suspect a lot of people feel the same way.
Decent cameras will never go away because a phone will never be able to match the feature set of the camera....even compact ones, imo.
Watches will always exist, if anything, as a fashion accessory.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189574</id>
	<title>I found an 11th thing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258810620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Another thing you can do on most modern web enabled phones is look up phrases like Begs the Question and see what a fool you are making of yourself prior to posting on slashdot.</p><p><a href="http://begthequestion.info/" title="begthequestion.info" rel="nofollow">http://begthequestion.info/</a> [begthequestion.info]</p><p>Brought to you by the obligatory and gratuitous grammar snarks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another thing you can do on most modern web enabled phones is look up phrases like Begs the Question and see what a fool you are making of yourself prior to posting on slashdot.http : //begthequestion.info/ [ begthequestion.info ] Brought to you by the obligatory and gratuitous grammar snarks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another thing you can do on most modern web enabled phones is look up phrases like Begs the Question and see what a fool you are making of yourself prior to posting on slashdot.http://begthequestion.info/ [begthequestion.info]Brought to you by the obligatory and gratuitous grammar snarks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192404</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1258893120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That last requirement means is you use digital devices that produce analogue signals, the resolution on the ADC has to be so crappy that the RFI from the radio doesn't screw up the picture AND the voltage changes when a call is picked up or an alarm goes off or what have you can't throw the ADC.</p></div><p>They've gotten extremely good at "shut-off" circuits lately, which is why both the latest Core i7s, AMD 5xxx series and so on draw much, much less power. There's no reason why this can't be applied to phones, if the camera is off it's near dead plastic. And it's on, you don't let the alarm ring in the exact same moment via software.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The low-power means no fancy, power-hungry logic, the software zoom and other floating-point logic won't be terribly high precision, and the image compression algorithm will need to be light on the quality.</p></div><p>It's fixed function and fixed function is really cheap compared to say running cell phone games, which people do lots of on iPhones and whatever.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The size and damage-resistance impacts what sort of lens you can use, how rigid the structure has to be, how much the user can just seriously screw up the device before the image quality drops. Even for a disposable standalone camera, it's practical to put in some quite acceptable optics.</p></div><p>Yes, which is why modern camera phones protect the lens when it's not in use etc. The whole statement, except the optics, is like the naysayers of 10-20 years ago saying we can't turn the bricks into 100g cell phones. Yes, we can.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Even when such devices are of a size comparable to that OF the phone, you've got to remember that the camera is sans radio (or radios, for phones that have bluetooth and/or wifi and/or AM/FM tuners as well as the standard phone radio), sans keyboard, sans quite a bit of space-hungry stuff that phones either need or have as "features".</p></div><p>Yes, but they have a processor, storage, lcd screen.. lots of things that are shared as well.</p><p>Of course if you're always comparing the latest P&amp;S to the latest camera phones, the P&amp;S will always win. But I have some early digicams lying around, I dare you to compare them to the latest camera phones because they'll lose by far. And those cameras were also usable and popular. So the question is if you really want to see grandaunt Selma's nose hair, or if you'd just like to take a decent picture to remind everyone of a family gathering. I'd say camera phones are just fine P&amp;S for the reasons people carry P&amp;S cameras in the first place and not huge DSLRs. And that they are still getting better and better.</p></div>
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<tokenext>That last requirement means is you use digital devices that produce analogue signals , the resolution on the ADC has to be so crappy that the RFI from the radio does n't screw up the picture AND the voltage changes when a call is picked up or an alarm goes off or what have you ca n't throw the ADC.They 've gotten extremely good at " shut-off " circuits lately , which is why both the latest Core i7s , AMD 5xxx series and so on draw much , much less power .
There 's no reason why this ca n't be applied to phones , if the camera is off it 's near dead plastic .
And it 's on , you do n't let the alarm ring in the exact same moment via software.The low-power means no fancy , power-hungry logic , the software zoom and other floating-point logic wo n't be terribly high precision , and the image compression algorithm will need to be light on the quality.It 's fixed function and fixed function is really cheap compared to say running cell phone games , which people do lots of on iPhones and whatever.The size and damage-resistance impacts what sort of lens you can use , how rigid the structure has to be , how much the user can just seriously screw up the device before the image quality drops .
Even for a disposable standalone camera , it 's practical to put in some quite acceptable optics.Yes , which is why modern camera phones protect the lens when it 's not in use etc .
The whole statement , except the optics , is like the naysayers of 10-20 years ago saying we ca n't turn the bricks into 100g cell phones .
Yes , we can.Even when such devices are of a size comparable to that OF the phone , you 've got to remember that the camera is sans radio ( or radios , for phones that have bluetooth and/or wifi and/or AM/FM tuners as well as the standard phone radio ) , sans keyboard , sans quite a bit of space-hungry stuff that phones either need or have as " features " .Yes , but they have a processor , storage , lcd screen.. lots of things that are shared as well.Of course if you 're always comparing the latest P&amp;S to the latest camera phones , the P&amp;S will always win .
But I have some early digicams lying around , I dare you to compare them to the latest camera phones because they 'll lose by far .
And those cameras were also usable and popular .
So the question is if you really want to see grandaunt Selma 's nose hair , or if you 'd just like to take a decent picture to remind everyone of a family gathering .
I 'd say camera phones are just fine P&amp;S for the reasons people carry P&amp;S cameras in the first place and not huge DSLRs .
And that they are still getting better and better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That last requirement means is you use digital devices that produce analogue signals, the resolution on the ADC has to be so crappy that the RFI from the radio doesn't screw up the picture AND the voltage changes when a call is picked up or an alarm goes off or what have you can't throw the ADC.They've gotten extremely good at "shut-off" circuits lately, which is why both the latest Core i7s, AMD 5xxx series and so on draw much, much less power.
There's no reason why this can't be applied to phones, if the camera is off it's near dead plastic.
And it's on, you don't let the alarm ring in the exact same moment via software.The low-power means no fancy, power-hungry logic, the software zoom and other floating-point logic won't be terribly high precision, and the image compression algorithm will need to be light on the quality.It's fixed function and fixed function is really cheap compared to say running cell phone games, which people do lots of on iPhones and whatever.The size and damage-resistance impacts what sort of lens you can use, how rigid the structure has to be, how much the user can just seriously screw up the device before the image quality drops.
Even for a disposable standalone camera, it's practical to put in some quite acceptable optics.Yes, which is why modern camera phones protect the lens when it's not in use etc.
The whole statement, except the optics, is like the naysayers of 10-20 years ago saying we can't turn the bricks into 100g cell phones.
Yes, we can.Even when such devices are of a size comparable to that OF the phone, you've got to remember that the camera is sans radio (or radios, for phones that have bluetooth and/or wifi and/or AM/FM tuners as well as the standard phone radio), sans keyboard, sans quite a bit of space-hungry stuff that phones either need or have as "features".Yes, but they have a processor, storage, lcd screen.. lots of things that are shared as well.Of course if you're always comparing the latest P&amp;S to the latest camera phones, the P&amp;S will always win.
But I have some early digicams lying around, I dare you to compare them to the latest camera phones because they'll lose by far.
And those cameras were also usable and popular.
So the question is if you really want to see grandaunt Selma's nose hair, or if you'd just like to take a decent picture to remind everyone of a family gathering.
I'd say camera phones are just fine P&amp;S for the reasons people carry P&amp;S cameras in the first place and not huge DSLRs.
And that they are still getting better and better.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30193390</id>
	<title>Re:A load of BS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258905720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>PC gaming was supposed to kill console gaming, but we have more top tier consoles and more console gamers than ever before.  I doubt cell phones will replace dedicated gaming hardware.</p><p>We have a list of ten things cell phones are supposedly replacing.  Instead I see a portable phone with an alarm clock that does 8 other things BADLY.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>PC gaming was supposed to kill console gaming , but we have more top tier consoles and more console gamers than ever before .
I doubt cell phones will replace dedicated gaming hardware.We have a list of ten things cell phones are supposedly replacing .
Instead I see a portable phone with an alarm clock that does 8 other things BADLY .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PC gaming was supposed to kill console gaming, but we have more top tier consoles and more console gamers than ever before.
I doubt cell phones will replace dedicated gaming hardware.We have a list of ten things cell phones are supposedly replacing.
Instead I see a portable phone with an alarm clock that does 8 other things BADLY.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190636</id>
	<title>Re:Neo-luddite</title>
	<author>DriftingDutchman</author>
	<datestamp>1258820520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Spears are tools too. Without tools, humans wouldn't be able to occupy our ecological niche. We are weak and can't run fast, have no natural armor, and have neither impressive teeth nor claws.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Spears are tools too .
Without tools , humans would n't be able to occupy our ecological niche .
We are weak and ca n't run fast , have no natural armor , and have neither impressive teeth nor claws .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Spears are tools too.
Without tools, humans wouldn't be able to occupy our ecological niche.
We are weak and can't run fast, have no natural armor, and have neither impressive teeth nor claws.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190210</id>
	<title>Re:!begsthequestion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258815780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, it's probably just the douchbagginess.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , it 's probably just the douchbagginess .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, it's probably just the douchbagginess.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190818</id>
	<title>Re:Wrist Watches are Useful</title>
	<author>chelsel</author>
	<datestamp>1258822920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"20 hours of overtime a week is "normal" for the position you're interviewing for", to which you reply "great... time and a half is normal for overtime" and smile smugly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" 20 hours of overtime a week is " normal " for the position you 're interviewing for " , to which you reply " great... time and a half is normal for overtime " and smile smugly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"20 hours of overtime a week is "normal" for the position you're interviewing for", to which you reply "great... time and a half is normal for overtime" and smile smugly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189742</id>
	<title>Neo-luddite</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258812240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The author poignantly concludes that while it's great to have so much power at our fingertips it does mean that some of us will rely on mobile phones for even basic mental tasks, which is great until the battery runs out.</p></div></blockquote><p>Poignant? People tried to say the same thing about calculators in the 50s. Tools augment human capability, they can be a crutch but we're a little far from walking in the jungle throwing spears, aren't we?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The author poignantly concludes that while it 's great to have so much power at our fingertips it does mean that some of us will rely on mobile phones for even basic mental tasks , which is great until the battery runs out.Poignant ?
People tried to say the same thing about calculators in the 50s .
Tools augment human capability , they can be a crutch but we 're a little far from walking in the jungle throwing spears , are n't we ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The author poignantly concludes that while it's great to have so much power at our fingertips it does mean that some of us will rely on mobile phones for even basic mental tasks, which is great until the battery runs out.Poignant?
People tried to say the same thing about calculators in the 50s.
Tools augment human capability, they can be a crutch but we're a little far from walking in the jungle throwing spears, aren't we?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189584</id>
	<title>no they won't</title>
	<author>91degrees</author>
	<datestamp>1258810620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Phone boxes: Dead.  Abut the only use is to report the theft of a mobile phone.
<br> <br>
Wristwatches: Well, my wrist is in a very convenient place.  I can even look at it whilst holding something else.  It doesn't need to be fished out of a pocket.  Women have the greater problem of having to fish it out of a handbag.  Hell, I can look at it whilst on the phone.  A watch than can keep better time than our planet can be purchased for about the same as an iphone app.<br> <br>
Bedside alarm clocks: Mine has a battery life measured in years.  It has a handy big button on the top to stop the alarm.  Far superior than to a phone.<br> <br>
MP3 players: I don't know why but I like my mp3 player better than my phone for mp3 purposes.  Maybe that's just me, since I can't really rationalise this one.<br> <br>
Landline home phones:  Dead.  I know very few people who still use these.<br> <br>
Compact digital cameras: My Canon gives better pictures than any mobile phone ever will.  It's not just about lens quality or pixels.  There's a matter of having a large enough CCD to collect all those photons, which means you need a longer lens.  And you do need a decent quality lens.  They are expensive.  Adding one to a cheap mobile phone means you might as well have a camera.<br> <br>
Netbooks: What!?  They're totally different devices.  If you can have a decent sized keyboard and 10 inch screen on a device that fits into your pocket let me know.  <br> <br>
Handheld games consoles: Games consoles are extremely demanding about user interfaces.  touch screens are not good for games.<br> <br>
Paper: I've been essentially paperless for a decade.  Mobile phones aren't going to affect this significantly.<br> <br>
Thinking: Tools and information aid thinking.  They don't replace it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Phone boxes : Dead .
Abut the only use is to report the theft of a mobile phone .
Wristwatches : Well , my wrist is in a very convenient place .
I can even look at it whilst holding something else .
It does n't need to be fished out of a pocket .
Women have the greater problem of having to fish it out of a handbag .
Hell , I can look at it whilst on the phone .
A watch than can keep better time than our planet can be purchased for about the same as an iphone app .
Bedside alarm clocks : Mine has a battery life measured in years .
It has a handy big button on the top to stop the alarm .
Far superior than to a phone .
MP3 players : I do n't know why but I like my mp3 player better than my phone for mp3 purposes .
Maybe that 's just me , since I ca n't really rationalise this one .
Landline home phones : Dead .
I know very few people who still use these .
Compact digital cameras : My Canon gives better pictures than any mobile phone ever will .
It 's not just about lens quality or pixels .
There 's a matter of having a large enough CCD to collect all those photons , which means you need a longer lens .
And you do need a decent quality lens .
They are expensive .
Adding one to a cheap mobile phone means you might as well have a camera .
Netbooks : What ! ?
They 're totally different devices .
If you can have a decent sized keyboard and 10 inch screen on a device that fits into your pocket let me know .
Handheld games consoles : Games consoles are extremely demanding about user interfaces .
touch screens are not good for games .
Paper : I 've been essentially paperless for a decade .
Mobile phones are n't going to affect this significantly .
Thinking : Tools and information aid thinking .
They do n't replace it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Phone boxes: Dead.
Abut the only use is to report the theft of a mobile phone.
Wristwatches: Well, my wrist is in a very convenient place.
I can even look at it whilst holding something else.
It doesn't need to be fished out of a pocket.
Women have the greater problem of having to fish it out of a handbag.
Hell, I can look at it whilst on the phone.
A watch than can keep better time than our planet can be purchased for about the same as an iphone app.
Bedside alarm clocks: Mine has a battery life measured in years.
It has a handy big button on the top to stop the alarm.
Far superior than to a phone.
MP3 players: I don't know why but I like my mp3 player better than my phone for mp3 purposes.
Maybe that's just me, since I can't really rationalise this one.
Landline home phones:  Dead.
I know very few people who still use these.
Compact digital cameras: My Canon gives better pictures than any mobile phone ever will.
It's not just about lens quality or pixels.
There's a matter of having a large enough CCD to collect all those photons, which means you need a longer lens.
And you do need a decent quality lens.
They are expensive.
Adding one to a cheap mobile phone means you might as well have a camera.
Netbooks: What!?
They're totally different devices.
If you can have a decent sized keyboard and 10 inch screen on a device that fits into your pocket let me know.
Handheld games consoles: Games consoles are extremely demanding about user interfaces.
touch screens are not good for games.
Paper: I've been essentially paperless for a decade.
Mobile phones aren't going to affect this significantly.
Thinking: Tools and information aid thinking.
They don't replace it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189408</id>
	<title>No phone booths?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258809480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's just dandy... where is Clark Kent supposed to change now?</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's just dandy... where is Clark Kent supposed to change now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's just dandy... where is Clark Kent supposed to change now?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191694</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258921080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And as if flashes on phones are even adequate.</p><p>75\% of the time I wanted to use a camera phone for a pic, its in a bar or at least at night in a darker place.</p><p>They will never find the bodies anyway.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And as if flashes on phones are even adequate.75 \ % of the time I wanted to use a camera phone for a pic , its in a bar or at least at night in a darker place.They will never find the bodies anyway .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>And as if flashes on phones are even adequate.75\% of the time I wanted to use a camera phone for a pic, its in a bar or at least at night in a darker place.They will never find the bodies anyway.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191188</id>
	<title>Re:Convergence.</title>
	<author>Nimey</author>
	<datestamp>1258828080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Next you're going to ask for Emacs to get a decent text editor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Next you 're going to ask for Emacs to get a decent text editor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Next you're going to ask for Emacs to get a decent text editor.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189502</id>
	<title>Many features that I don't even want.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1258810020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Early camera phones where painfully bad but strong sales proved that there was a demand for them.</p> </div><p>When I got my phone, I bought it because it was the cheapest phone that had the ability to see who's calling without having to answer. It so happens to have come with a camera which I never use because it sucks. Now, are the camera manufacturers counting my sale as someone who wanted a camera? Probably. There's a few other features built into the phone that i looked at and never used because I have no use for them.</p><p>That's the thing, there's only so many choices and it's impossible to get a phone that has a feature you want without getting a bunch of features that you don't want. And if you find one, it may not be supported by your cell carrier.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Early camera phones where painfully bad but strong sales proved that there was a demand for them .
When I got my phone , I bought it because it was the cheapest phone that had the ability to see who 's calling without having to answer .
It so happens to have come with a camera which I never use because it sucks .
Now , are the camera manufacturers counting my sale as someone who wanted a camera ?
Probably. There 's a few other features built into the phone that i looked at and never used because I have no use for them.That 's the thing , there 's only so many choices and it 's impossible to get a phone that has a feature you want without getting a bunch of features that you do n't want .
And if you find one , it may not be supported by your cell carrier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Early camera phones where painfully bad but strong sales proved that there was a demand for them.
When I got my phone, I bought it because it was the cheapest phone that had the ability to see who's calling without having to answer.
It so happens to have come with a camera which I never use because it sucks.
Now, are the camera manufacturers counting my sale as someone who wanted a camera?
Probably. There's a few other features built into the phone that i looked at and never used because I have no use for them.That's the thing, there's only so many choices and it's impossible to get a phone that has a feature you want without getting a bunch of features that you don't want.
And if you find one, it may not be supported by your cell carrier.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30192448</id>
	<title>Re:No P&amp;S camera</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1258893720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, there are situations where you don't really care of the quality of the picture. Think for example of a car accident, where you might want to make a photo of the situation. You don't care much about the quality; you only care that the important details are there. In such a situation, it's quite likely you don't have a separate camera with you; however there's a good chance you've got your phone with you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , there are situations where you do n't really care of the quality of the picture .
Think for example of a car accident , where you might want to make a photo of the situation .
You do n't care much about the quality ; you only care that the important details are there .
In such a situation , it 's quite likely you do n't have a separate camera with you ; however there 's a good chance you 've got your phone with you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, there are situations where you don't really care of the quality of the picture.
Think for example of a car accident, where you might want to make a photo of the situation.
You don't care much about the quality; you only care that the important details are there.
In such a situation, it's quite likely you don't have a separate camera with you; however there's a good chance you've got your phone with you.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30191456</id>
	<title>A brief rebuttal</title>
	<author>mmmmbeer</author>
	<datestamp>1258831500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Phone boxes - People have been predicting the demise of these for a long time now, ever since cell phones first became mainstream.  I think it is possible, although I think the big phone companies will fight this, if only because they want to feel important.</p><p>Wristwatches - Not a chance.  The convenience of having the time on your arm will never be replaced by something you have to pull out of a pocket/purse/holster.  The relative inexpensiveness of watches makes it easy to have one in addition to your phone, so there will continue to be a market.</p><p>Bedside alarm clocks - Again, no way.  No matter how good an alarm clock app might get, it will never match a simple bedside alarm.  People who use their phones as alarms are doing it for the novelty, not because it is the best thing for the job.  Like wristwatches, the low cost will keep alarm clocks around.</p><p>MP3 players - Ok, this one I agree with.</p><p>Landline home phones - I would agree, except I know too many people who are uncomfortable with the idea of giving this up.  I've also found that a cellphone often doesn't make a good replacement for a family phone.  I think over time the landline may give way more and more to voip, but not cellphones.</p><p>Compact digital cameras - Yeah, probably.</p><p>Netbooks - I'm still not convinced there's a significant market for these anyway.</p><p>Handheld games consoles - No way.  While casual gaming on phones will definitely take a bite out of the market, more serious games will still require a dedicated device.  Phones will never have the right controls for gaming without seriously interfering with their use as a phone.</p><p>Paper - Are you retarded?</p><p>Thinking - I'll take that as a "Yes."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Phone boxes - People have been predicting the demise of these for a long time now , ever since cell phones first became mainstream .
I think it is possible , although I think the big phone companies will fight this , if only because they want to feel important.Wristwatches - Not a chance .
The convenience of having the time on your arm will never be replaced by something you have to pull out of a pocket/purse/holster .
The relative inexpensiveness of watches makes it easy to have one in addition to your phone , so there will continue to be a market.Bedside alarm clocks - Again , no way .
No matter how good an alarm clock app might get , it will never match a simple bedside alarm .
People who use their phones as alarms are doing it for the novelty , not because it is the best thing for the job .
Like wristwatches , the low cost will keep alarm clocks around.MP3 players - Ok , this one I agree with.Landline home phones - I would agree , except I know too many people who are uncomfortable with the idea of giving this up .
I 've also found that a cellphone often does n't make a good replacement for a family phone .
I think over time the landline may give way more and more to voip , but not cellphones.Compact digital cameras - Yeah , probably.Netbooks - I 'm still not convinced there 's a significant market for these anyway.Handheld games consoles - No way .
While casual gaming on phones will definitely take a bite out of the market , more serious games will still require a dedicated device .
Phones will never have the right controls for gaming without seriously interfering with their use as a phone.Paper - Are you retarded ? Thinking - I 'll take that as a " Yes .
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<sentencetext>Phone boxes - People have been predicting the demise of these for a long time now, ever since cell phones first became mainstream.
I think it is possible, although I think the big phone companies will fight this, if only because they want to feel important.Wristwatches - Not a chance.
The convenience of having the time on your arm will never be replaced by something you have to pull out of a pocket/purse/holster.
The relative inexpensiveness of watches makes it easy to have one in addition to your phone, so there will continue to be a market.Bedside alarm clocks - Again, no way.
No matter how good an alarm clock app might get, it will never match a simple bedside alarm.
People who use their phones as alarms are doing it for the novelty, not because it is the best thing for the job.
Like wristwatches, the low cost will keep alarm clocks around.MP3 players - Ok, this one I agree with.Landline home phones - I would agree, except I know too many people who are uncomfortable with the idea of giving this up.
I've also found that a cellphone often doesn't make a good replacement for a family phone.
I think over time the landline may give way more and more to voip, but not cellphones.Compact digital cameras - Yeah, probably.Netbooks - I'm still not convinced there's a significant market for these anyway.Handheld games consoles - No way.
While casual gaming on phones will definitely take a bite out of the market, more serious games will still require a dedicated device.
Phones will never have the right controls for gaming without seriously interfering with their use as a phone.Paper - Are you retarded?Thinking - I'll take that as a "Yes.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190166</id>
	<title>Re:A load of BS</title>
	<author>Dahamma</author>
	<datestamp>1258815420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Computers were supposed to get rid of paper and they didn't.</i></p><p>Yet.  Anyone with the smallest foresight can see the trend is towards paper-thin, low power electronic displays.  It may be 20+ years before they cost marginally more than paper and start to replace the more mundane uses, but it will.  And before anyone starts... of course it will never *completely* replace paper - there will always be some uses that are just more convenient.  But look at checks - 15 years ago I was writing 8+ paper checks a month.  Now I probably write that many a year.  Still a game changer.</p><p><i>Gaming on a phone is awful.</i></p><p>Don't have an iPhone, do you?  I have a lot of friends addicted to iPhone games, and there are even a few I have played more than I would like to admit.</p><p><i>If I am going to do work during my commute it will be on a laptop or netbook, not a mobile. I suspect a lot of people feel the same way.</i></p><p>If I am going to do work on my commute I will DEFINITELY use a laptop.  The article only mentioned netbooks, which would be insanely painful for programming.  Anyone pretending to do "work" on a netbook probably works in marketing and sends emails for a living...</p><p><i>Decent cameras will never go away because a phone will never be able to match the feature set of the camera....even compact ones, imo.</i></p><p>Well, the article only mentioned compacts, not "decent" cameras (though compacts are pretty decent these days!)  Again, progression of technology... look at phones now, vs phones of 10+ years ago.  If you don't think all of the features of a compact camera can't be added to phones in the near future, you should delete your<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. account.</p><p><i>Watches will always exist, if anything, as a fashion accessory.</i></p><p>Yeah, so will codpieces, it doesn't mean they are still useful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Computers were supposed to get rid of paper and they did n't.Yet .
Anyone with the smallest foresight can see the trend is towards paper-thin , low power electronic displays .
It may be 20 + years before they cost marginally more than paper and start to replace the more mundane uses , but it will .
And before anyone starts... of course it will never * completely * replace paper - there will always be some uses that are just more convenient .
But look at checks - 15 years ago I was writing 8 + paper checks a month .
Now I probably write that many a year .
Still a game changer.Gaming on a phone is awful.Do n't have an iPhone , do you ?
I have a lot of friends addicted to iPhone games , and there are even a few I have played more than I would like to admit.If I am going to do work during my commute it will be on a laptop or netbook , not a mobile .
I suspect a lot of people feel the same way.If I am going to do work on my commute I will DEFINITELY use a laptop .
The article only mentioned netbooks , which would be insanely painful for programming .
Anyone pretending to do " work " on a netbook probably works in marketing and sends emails for a living...Decent cameras will never go away because a phone will never be able to match the feature set of the camera....even compact ones , imo.Well , the article only mentioned compacts , not " decent " cameras ( though compacts are pretty decent these days !
) Again , progression of technology... look at phones now , vs phones of 10 + years ago .
If you do n't think all of the features of a compact camera ca n't be added to phones in the near future , you should delete your / .
account.Watches will always exist , if anything , as a fashion accessory.Yeah , so will codpieces , it does n't mean they are still useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Computers were supposed to get rid of paper and they didn't.Yet.
Anyone with the smallest foresight can see the trend is towards paper-thin, low power electronic displays.
It may be 20+ years before they cost marginally more than paper and start to replace the more mundane uses, but it will.
And before anyone starts... of course it will never *completely* replace paper - there will always be some uses that are just more convenient.
But look at checks - 15 years ago I was writing 8+ paper checks a month.
Now I probably write that many a year.
Still a game changer.Gaming on a phone is awful.Don't have an iPhone, do you?
I have a lot of friends addicted to iPhone games, and there are even a few I have played more than I would like to admit.If I am going to do work during my commute it will be on a laptop or netbook, not a mobile.
I suspect a lot of people feel the same way.If I am going to do work on my commute I will DEFINITELY use a laptop.
The article only mentioned netbooks, which would be insanely painful for programming.
Anyone pretending to do "work" on a netbook probably works in marketing and sends emails for a living...Decent cameras will never go away because a phone will never be able to match the feature set of the camera....even compact ones, imo.Well, the article only mentioned compacts, not "decent" cameras (though compacts are pretty decent these days!
)  Again, progression of technology... look at phones now, vs phones of 10+ years ago.
If you don't think all of the features of a compact camera can't be added to phones in the near future, you should delete your /.
account.Watches will always exist, if anything, as a fashion accessory.Yeah, so will codpieces, it doesn't mean they are still useful.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30190734</id>
	<title>I don't want to go all 64k here but...</title>
	<author>oljanx</author>
	<datestamp>1258821900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The cellphone will never replace cameras, net books, hand held game consoles, paper or thinking.  You'll never be able to pack the quality of a high end Camera, the form factor of a netbook, the interface of a game console, the durability of a paper document, or (wtf) thinking into a cellphone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The cellphone will never replace cameras , net books , hand held game consoles , paper or thinking .
You 'll never be able to pack the quality of a high end Camera , the form factor of a netbook , the interface of a game console , the durability of a paper document , or ( wtf ) thinking into a cellphone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The cellphone will never replace cameras, net books, hand held game consoles, paper or thinking.
You'll never be able to pack the quality of a high end Camera, the form factor of a netbook, the interface of a game console, the durability of a paper document, or (wtf) thinking into a cellphone.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_11_21_2351245.30189670</id>
	<title>Witchcraft</title>
	<author>HomelessInLaJolla</author>
	<datestamp>1258811520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One thousand years ago, even one hundred years ago, the concept of communicating with people who were not within line of sight or range of hearing would be called clairvoyance, clairaudience, mental telepathy, witchcraft, astral projection, sorcery, or something similar.  It would have been persecuted and shunned even to the point of executing (as painfully as possible) anyone who claimed to have such ability.</p><p>Nowadays we call it technology and we persecute and shun anyone who has no interest in it calling them antisocial, or disgruntled, or loner, or hermit, or difficult to get along with.</p><p>My how human society has changed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One thousand years ago , even one hundred years ago , the concept of communicating with people who were not within line of sight or range of hearing would be called clairvoyance , clairaudience , mental telepathy , witchcraft , astral projection , sorcery , or something similar .
It would have been persecuted and shunned even to the point of executing ( as painfully as possible ) anyone who claimed to have such ability.Nowadays we call it technology and we persecute and shun anyone who has no interest in it calling them antisocial , or disgruntled , or loner , or hermit , or difficult to get along with.My how human society has changed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One thousand years ago, even one hundred years ago, the concept of communicating with people who were not within line of sight or range of hearing would be called clairvoyance, clairaudience, mental telepathy, witchcraft, astral projection, sorcery, or something similar.
It would have been persecuted and shunned even to the point of executing (as painfully as possible) anyone who claimed to have such ability.Nowadays we call it technology and we persecute and shun anyone who has no interest in it calling them antisocial, or disgruntled, or loner, or hermit, or difficult to get along with.My how human society has changed.</sentencetext>
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